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THOMAS: If we were to come in
and dig again,
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would we get any response?
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Where you dig
makes a difference.
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- [rattling]
- [engine stops]
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It's got a dead battery.
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ERIK:
What the actual hell is this?
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- You got to get those people out of there.
- Okay.
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BRYANT: There
was a spike at 3400.
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Everybody out of here, now.
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Erik, are you doing
something at 1.6?
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I'm not broadcasting.
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TRAVIS: That's a communication
signal or something.
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This is out of the
carriage house.
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BRYANT: What the hell is that?
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You captured a UAP on camera.
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NARRATOR: There is
a ranch in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that
have proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years, the
federal government
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tried to find
answers and failed.
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Now a new team of
dedicated scientists,
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researchers and
experts has taken over.
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They are determined to
solve the mystery and reveal...
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The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch.
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How's it going, Chris?
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- Hey, Kaleb. How's it going?
- Good, good.
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TRAVIS: To help us with
our ongoing investigation
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of Skinwalker Ranch,
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we've been trying to engage
as many people as possible
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who took part in the
previous operations
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over the last two decades.
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What's it like coming back?
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It's pretty surreal,
actually, you know.
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It's kind of like being back
home a little bit, you know.
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TRAVIS: Chris Bartel
is a former military officer
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who was contracted
by Robert Bigelow
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and the Defense
Intelligence Agency
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when they were
investigating Skinwalker Ranch
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several years ago.
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We used to have trouble
getting guys like him
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to share anything about
what they've seen out here.
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Well, it's an "it"
that's in control.
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TRAVIS: But after last week's visit
by another former Bigelow employee,
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Colonel John Alexander,
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and the federal
government's report last year
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acknowledging the
existence of UAPs,
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it's like the floodgates
have finally opened up.
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I know, a couple years ago, I
was worried about, you know,
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maybe possibly losing
a clearance talking about
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some of the experiences
I had here on the property.
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Losing a clearance as far as?
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- Like a security clearance?
- Right, it was a concern
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'cause, you know,
I'm still active
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in the federal department,
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I'm still operating and, uh,
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now it's more of a
mainstream topic, it seems like.
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I was a BAASS
Security Investigator
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for Bigelow Aerospace
for Skinwalker Ranch
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from the years 2010 to 2016.
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BAASS stands for
Bigelow Aerospace
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Advanced Space Studies.
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It was the organization
to study UFO phenomena.
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This is also during the time of
the federal contract, AAWSAP.
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AAWSAP stands for
Advanced Aerospace
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Weapon Systems
Applications Program.
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I was one of the lead
members out here.
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I spent lots of time
exploring, documenting data
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and also safekeeping
and protecting the property.
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I have a lot of
experiences out here.
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You know, I lived and breathed
this property for six years.
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I would love to show you guys
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some of the things
that I went through
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and important
aspects of the property.
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THOMAS: Well,
I'm eager to do that.
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I think we throw you
in the UTV right here,
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and let's start across,
because I-I want to hear
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- everything that happened.
- That sounds, that sounds good.
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- Okay.
- I appreciate it.
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THOMAS: We have this 20-year gap
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where Mr. Bigelow
owned the ranch
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for which we know very little.
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I think somebody that
spent six years here,
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and spent a lot of time
during that six years,
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is critical and could be
crucial to helping us solve
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some of the mysteries
that are here on the ranch.
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CHRIS: Yeah. Right here.
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This is the spot.
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Let's park here, then.
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I find it interesting that
you, uh, stop us here.
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This is by a place
we call the triangle.
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Been a place we've
done a lot of experiments
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and research and had
a lot of interesting data.
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So, I'm curious, tell me about
what you experienced here.
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So, October of 2010, we
had a pretty good routine
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where one guy
would do a normal run
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through the property to get
kind of eyes on what's going on.
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That day, the other
officer came back,
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and he was like, "Hey,
I found some big prints
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on top of the mesa."
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And I'm like, "Okay, let's
go take a look at them."
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We get to the top of
here, and we find these gi...
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These pretty
good-sized canine prints.
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I have photos of those,
if you'd like to see them.
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- Yeah, I'd love to see those.
- CHRIS: Sure.
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Here. Take a look at
this. You can see here...
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Look at those, look
how deep those go down.
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- KALEB: Look at that.
- THOMAS: Oh, my gosh.
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So, that's about three
feet between step?
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CHRIS: Mm-hmm.
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And then, we had a
couple labs with us.
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You can see here in the
top corner, the labs' prints.
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KALEB: That thing's like
four times the size of those.
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That's a very big canine.
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KALEB: Seeing this picture,
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you could tell by both
the size and the stride
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that we're talking about
a very large animal.
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It makes me think about
the legend of the skinwalker.
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The legend of the skinwalker is
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that it's an entity
that can shape-shift.
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Often, the lore is having
it go from a wolf to a man.
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For whatever reason,
this piece of ground
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was cursed with the skinwalker.
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I was here, the other
officer was right there,
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and the dogs were
kind of in between us.
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And the other officer says,
"Chris, stop. I hear something."
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And I'll-I'll never forget this,
because it has been replaying
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in my mind forever
since this day.
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Out of that ditch,
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I hear a God-awful,
guttural, howl growl.
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And I was, like,
frozen for a second.
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So was the other officer
and the dogs were all alerting.
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The animal jumps
out of the ravine
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over the berm and travels west.
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This thing was probably
the size of a donkey, black.
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Instinctively, the
dogs chase after it.
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I run after the dogs.
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We get around that corner there.
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It's-it's gone.
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THOMAS: Wow.
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I can understand why
Chris was hesitant to share
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some of these stories.
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If I had heard this on
day one of the ranch,
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I would have dismissed Chris.
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But after spending five
years here on the ranch, uh...
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I-I find myself
believing his story.
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Did you come back and look
for tracks the next day, I imagine?
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CHRIS: The next
day we came back.
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We followed the ditch.
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We really didn't
find any tracks.
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But there was an area I
found on this mesa slope,
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and it led to this open cavity.
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Uh, it looked like a cave.
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So, I jumped down into it.
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I look around, and it's a,
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uh, a decent-size open cavity,
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but inside the
cavern, I pulled out
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two old canine traps.
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So, anytime somebody
says the word "cave"
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or "cavern" here,
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- it catches our attention.
- Right.
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- You think it's still there?
- Yeah.
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- You mind taking us there to it?
- Absolutely, let's go.
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All right.
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TRAVIS: I find it
interesting that this DJ said
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they were picking up
some kind of weird signal.
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Yeah, that's the part
that got my attention.
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You know, normally when
you think about a radio station,
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you think of them broadcasting
but not receiving anything,
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so I'm surprised
that they're vigilant
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to any incoming signals.
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Well, I can't wait to
hear what they say.
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Ranch caretakers Tom
Lewis and Kandus Linde
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let me and Erik know that
a local radio station nearby
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reached out to them about
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a really strange
frequency interference
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that's been jamming
their system and it sounds
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just like what we experienced
last week on Skinwalker Ranch.
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Hey! hey, hey,
hey, hey, it's here.
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We've got that 1.6 thing.
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During a lot of the
experiments we've done
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to stimulate different
phenomena, including UAPs,
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Erik has detected a huge
radio frequency energy spike
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of 1.6 gigahertz on
the spectrum analyzer.
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And last week, we detected
it after launching a rocket
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out by Homestead Two.
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- [radio static]
- 1.60000.
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But this time a mysterious
sound came through with it.
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- You want to try and listen to it?
- ERIK: Yeah.
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[radio static, faint squealing]
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I swear that sounds like
a communication signal.
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So, here we are.
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So, when we heard that
a potentially similar signal
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was occurring at a radio station
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ten miles away in Roosevelt,
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we definitely wanted to
meet with the station manager
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and DJ, Jenn Rook.
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-Hi! -Hey, I'm Travis.
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- Hi, I'm Jenn.
- Nice to meet you, Jenn.
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You, too.
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We wanted to see
if it could be related
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to the strange
communication signal
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we've detected on
Skinwalker Ranch.
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So, we hear you've been
having some weird signals
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or interference with
your radio station.
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Some interference for sure
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and just some other weird
anomalies that happen.
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You're talking about
interferences, is it keeping you
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from being able to operate
at certain times, or...?
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- I livestream online, and it keeps it from operating.
- TRAVIS: Really?
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Like, the online stream
was just absolute fuzz.
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It was just cutting
out everything.
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It was just such
an interruption.
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- You couldn't hear the radio station online.
- Wow.
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So, if I was listening
to your station,
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and I hear, uh, some
kind of a problem,
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- JENN: Mm-hmm.
- I would expect to hear what?
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Static? Strange tones?
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Signals that don't belong
in your signal stream?
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What would I hear?
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Uh, I mean, you could
probably hear any of that.
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- Wow.
- You know, we've heard some weird stuff,
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and we see weird
signals at the ranch
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that we can't figure out
where they're coming from,
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and we've found this one
that seems to be repeating
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around here all the
time, near 1.6 gigahertz.
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Travis, can you bring
that up and play it?
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Yeah. I believe it's
this one right here.
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Mm-hmm.
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[static, squealing]
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You know, I've heard
something similar to this
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along with all of
the fuzz that I get
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that I know is interference.
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- Really?
- JENN: Yeah.
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There's something not right,
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and I've had people
look at it and try to fix it,
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- but it's a signal that is not supposed to be there.
- Wow.
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TRAVIS: After we verified
that Jenn believed that
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the 1.6 gigahertz communication
signal from the ranch
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was very similar to the one
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that's been coming
through the radio station,
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it made both Erik
and I think that
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maybe we could use it to
try to communicate back
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to whoever sent
it in the first place.
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Uh, we couldn't, by any chance,
talk you into maybe broadcasting
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this strange signal
that we've picked up?
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- Uh...
- And see if we'll detect something
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with our instruments
when you do.
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Are we poking a
bear here, or...?
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-[laughs] -Well-well, the
expression that I use is
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one my grandmother taught me
and it's "poking the hornets' nest."
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- And-and so...
- Okay, let's do it. Let's poke that hornets' nest.
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Let's see if any
hornets fly out, right?
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All right, let's do it.
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So, we have some
equipment outside, in the car,
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we'll run out, give
us we'll get it set up,
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- and running.
- Okay. Yeah, let's do it.
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So we'll got set
up the equipment.
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I'll be right back and tell
you when we're ready.
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- All right, sounds good.
- All right. Thank you.
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After Jenn Rook,
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the station manager at Jack FM,
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told us that the 1.6 gigahertz
communication signal
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that we've detected
on Skinwalker Ranch
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sounded similar to
what's been interfering
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with her station's broadcasts,
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we convinced her to
let us run an experiment.
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I'm going to go ahead
and start the Jeep
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- and tune in to the radio station.
- Perfect.
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TARVIS: The idea was to
play the 1.6 gigahertz signal
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over her airwaves...
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All right. I got the
radio station up.
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While Erik and I
set up an antenna
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with our spectrum
analyzer in the parking lot
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so we could monitor
the broadcast
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for anything strange that
might happen in response.
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All right, I think
that's good right there.
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All right.
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I'm interested in
watching the RF spectrum
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through our spectrum analyzer.
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I got really high hopes
that we're going to see
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something unusual.
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So, I'm-a go in and
tell her we're ready.
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All right.
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Hey, Jenn. Yeah, we've
got our equipment set up
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in the parking lot, so
whenever you're okay
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to broadcast the
signal, we're watching.
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- All right. Ready.
- All right. Cool. Thanks.
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All right, Erik. She's
about to broadcast it.
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- All right.
- JENN: Hey there, everybody.
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Just a little interruption
in the music right now.
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We're doing a few
tests here at the studios,
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and, uh, you know what?
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I'm going to play
something here.
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And if you've heard this,
you can always give me a call
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here at the studios
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[over radio]: and let me know.
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This is just a test, everybody.
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[static, crackling]
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[frequency crackling]
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♪ ♪
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There it is.
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Wow. It really changed
the waveform big time.
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Look at how the waveforms
are reacting to it there.
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You see that? Watch right here.
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When a FM radio station
broadcasts music or anything
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over the airwaves, the
frequency always has
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a constant and uniform pattern.
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You shouldn't see
any deviation in it
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no matter what the sound is.
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But as soon as Jenn started
broadcasting the sound
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from our 1.6 gigahertz signal,
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the station's frequency
began showing strange,
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sporadic spikes.
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Now, that shouldn't be possible.
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So, it really made us wonder
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if our experiment
might stimulate
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something strange out
here in the Basin community.
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And, if so, would it be anything
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like the phenomena we've
seen on Skinwalker Ranch?
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This has just been
a test, everybody.
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Thanks for listening. I'll put
you back to the music now.
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I'm Jenn Rook.
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All right, well, I say we
go tell her what we saw.
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Yeah. Let's go follow up.
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I wonder what the locals
thought that was listening to
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- the radio station.
- Oh, my gosh.
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[Erik chuckles]
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TRAVIS: Wow.
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That was pretty cool.
Thank you for that.
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Yeah, we, uh, were
watching the spectrum
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all around your signal and
when you were broadcasting,
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the, uh, the waveform
actually changed.
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Normally it has a certain shape,
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- Mm-hmm.
- And when you started that signal,
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it changed to something
completely different.
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- Hmm.
- TRAVIS: It was really odd.
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Now, the interesting
question is...
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- if there's any kind of response...
- Oh, yeah.
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What form will it take and
how will we find out about it?
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Yeah, if anybody
calls you and says,
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"Hey, what was
that weird thing?"
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Or "I had a headache
when that was going,"
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- you know, or whatever.
- JENN: Yeah.
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- Okay.
- TRAVIS: Especially if someone happens to see
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a UFO or UAP, or
something strange
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in the sky, anything at
all, please let us know.
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- Okay.
- You may be able to provide some information
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that's very helpful to
our research going on,
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- so thank you for accommodating us today.
- All right.
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- Oh, yeah, anytime.
- It was great to meet you.
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- You, too.
- Yeah. Thank you very much.
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JENN: Thanks, guys.
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CHRIS: So, it's gonna be
in this little area right here,
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where I was walking down
from the top of the mesa
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and I found a cave.
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THOMAS: Over the years that
I have been here on the ranch,
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there's been rampant rumors
about underground bases,
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of tunnels, all kinds
of underground things
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here at the ranch.
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If there are some, we
definitely want to find them.
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I just happened to
notice it from on top.
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Then I-I suggest maybe
we just all climb up there
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- and see if we can find it.
- CHRIS: Yeah.
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♪ ♪
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Hey, I found what
looks like to be a cavern.
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CHRIS: Let me take a look.
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Oh, yeah.
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I'm pretty sure this is
it, or it-it looks like it.
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THOMAS: You can tell that
at one time it was a lot larger.
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And it's collapsed
down in on itself.
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CHRIS: You can tell
that this whole area
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looks like a sunken-in area.
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- THOMAS: Like it caved in. Yeah.
- CHRIS: Yeah.
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It's so strange.
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00:16:03,310 --> 00:16:07,009
THOMAS: If this is the opening
to that cave that Chris found,
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did it collapse?
Is it still there?
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Does it continue back, and
it's just covered by rocks?
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Definitely a lot of
unanswered questions.
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00:16:15,017 --> 00:16:16,888
There's been one
consistent thing I've heard
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since I've been here on the
ranch for the last five years
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and that's there is
a system of tunnels
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that goes throughout the ranch.
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00:16:22,894 --> 00:16:26,159
We've got reports of
UFO flying into the mesa,
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that we have
people that think that
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there's underground bases here.
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We've yet to find it. Who knows?
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Maybe this is the entrance
or maybe this is a way in,
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and, uh, I'm all
for figuring out
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a safe way to explore this more.
393
00:16:37,692 --> 00:16:40,825
Well, I'm ready to head
down if you guys are.
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00:16:40,956 --> 00:16:43,356
- I appreciate you showing us, Chris.
- Hey, no problem, man.
395
00:16:45,569 --> 00:16:47,528
There's multiple
layers to this property.
396
00:16:47,658 --> 00:16:50,661
I think what's going on here
is bigger than any of us here.
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00:16:50,748 --> 00:16:53,055
It's bigger than a
science experiment.
398
00:16:53,142 --> 00:16:55,101
It's bigger than a
government contract.
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It's bigger than all of us.
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00:16:57,233 --> 00:16:59,931
How else can I explain
some of this stuff
401
00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:01,411
throughout all those years?
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00:17:01,498 --> 00:17:03,457
THOMAS: Okay,
we got our GPS data.
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00:17:03,587 --> 00:17:05,198
We know where it's at.
404
00:17:05,285 --> 00:17:06,851
Let's get out of here.
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00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,167
Hey, there's Jim.
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- Hello, guys.
- ERIK and TRAVIS: Hey, Jim.
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00:17:21,214 --> 00:17:23,259
- What's going on?
- JIM: Good to see you.
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00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:25,870
The day after Erik and I
conducted our experiment
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at Jack FM, ranch
manager Jim Morse
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00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,354
showed up to share
something pretty crazy with us.
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00:17:31,441 --> 00:17:33,791
Been doing a little outreach.
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I had a guy that, uh,
sent me some videos.
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- TRAVIS: This is local?
- This is local.
414
00:17:38,709 --> 00:17:41,103
- Oh.
- Yeah, so, maybe I can show you these,
415
00:17:41,234 --> 00:17:43,062
and you can make
heads or tails out of them.
416
00:17:43,149 --> 00:17:45,238
What are we looking at here?
417
00:17:45,368 --> 00:17:46,867
- I guess it's these lights right here.
- JIM: Mm-hmm.
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00:17:46,891 --> 00:17:49,894
[indistinct chatter]
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TRAVIS: Where
did this come from?
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Is this from the
community nearby?
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00:17:53,681 --> 00:17:55,354
JIM: Yeah, this is from the
community out here in the basin.
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00:17:55,378 --> 00:17:56,640
- TRAVIS: Uh-huh.
- JIM: Um...
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00:17:56,771 --> 00:17:59,687
I mean, there was
people from Moon Lake,
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- miles away, that saw the lights.
- Really?
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00:18:01,732 --> 00:18:03,386
Well, you know, looking at that,
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00:18:03,473 --> 00:18:04,996
first I thought it was stars,
427
00:18:05,084 --> 00:18:06,684
- but look, look, they're moving.
- Yeah.
428
00:18:09,349 --> 00:18:10,698
TARVIS: Look at that.
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00:18:10,785 --> 00:18:12,091
ERIK: Wow.
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00:18:14,963 --> 00:18:16,791
Jim, when was this video taken?
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00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:19,141
Last night, about 8:00 p.m.
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TRAVIS: Really?
That's just a few hours
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after we played that
sound on the radio, Erik.
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00:18:21,839 --> 00:18:23,058
No kidding.
435
00:18:23,145 --> 00:18:24,451
It definitely stirred up
436
00:18:24,581 --> 00:18:26,235
a lot of interest out here.
437
00:18:26,322 --> 00:18:27,343
Look, and in the
next video, they're in
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completely different kind of...
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00:18:28,846 --> 00:18:30,370
- They've moved a bunch.
- JIM: Yeah.
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TRAVIS: And there's a bunch.
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There's, like, four
or five of them.
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- ERIK: Wow.
- TRAVIS: Well, that is interesting.
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00:18:37,855 --> 00:18:39,161
It's like some kind of formation
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00:18:39,248 --> 00:18:40,530
of the lights, they're
doing something.
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00:18:40,554 --> 00:18:42,860
Now, if we actually stimulated
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00:18:42,991 --> 00:18:45,341
these UAP to appear
by broadcasting
447
00:18:45,428 --> 00:18:47,343
the sound from our
1.6 gigahertz signal
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00:18:47,474 --> 00:18:50,477
out to Roosevelt,
that's incredible.
449
00:18:50,564 --> 00:18:52,498
They definitely didn't look
like any conventional aircraft
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00:18:52,522 --> 00:18:54,002
I've ever seen.
451
00:18:54,089 --> 00:18:55,656
- It looks like five lights.
- Mm-hmm.
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00:18:55,743 --> 00:18:57,614
What on earth?
453
00:18:57,745 --> 00:18:59,399
They're clearly moving.
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00:18:59,529 --> 00:19:01,096
They're flying,
455
00:19:01,227 --> 00:19:02,987
and I don't see any
airplane navigation lights.
456
00:19:03,011 --> 00:19:04,795
JIM: No, I didn't
either. I didn't either.
457
00:19:04,926 --> 00:19:06,295
- ERIK: I couldn't see a single blink.
- TRAVIS: Yeah.
458
00:19:06,319 --> 00:19:07,861
- I don't know what that is.
- JIM: Yeah.
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00:19:07,885 --> 00:19:10,149
I got to tell you,
though, it's intriguing.
460
00:19:10,236 --> 00:19:12,039
Yeah, I-I want to pick
this apart frame by frame.
461
00:19:12,063 --> 00:19:14,457
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- Let me take a look at this.
462
00:19:14,588 --> 00:19:16,807
I've never seen a pattern
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00:19:16,894 --> 00:19:19,680
of this many mysterious
lights in the sky,
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00:19:19,767 --> 00:19:21,160
after any of our activities.
465
00:19:21,247 --> 00:19:22,161
- You know, usually we see one.
- One.
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00:19:22,248 --> 00:19:24,554
Maybe two. But that's pretty...
467
00:19:24,641 --> 00:19:26,315
That's pretty exciting. I
don't know what that means.
468
00:19:26,339 --> 00:19:28,993
JIM: Yeah. That's
more than a coincidence.
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00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,908
TRAVIS: Seeing these
videos was incredible,
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because it wasn't
just multiple UAPs
471
00:19:33,433 --> 00:19:35,304
that appeared at the same time.
472
00:19:35,391 --> 00:19:37,263
They also seemed
to be maneuvering
473
00:19:37,350 --> 00:19:39,003
in a coordinated formation.
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00:19:39,090 --> 00:19:40,353
- [static]
- There it is.
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00:19:40,483 --> 00:19:42,616
Wow.
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00:19:42,703 --> 00:19:44,724
When we broadcasted our
signal at the radio station,
477
00:19:44,748 --> 00:19:47,621
we could see a very
definite frequency register
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00:19:47,708 --> 00:19:50,667
on the spectrum analyzer, as
if something was responding.
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00:19:50,754 --> 00:19:53,844
What I want to
know is if these UAP
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were also stimulated
by our experiment.
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00:19:56,456 --> 00:19:58,893
Clearly, we now
have an investigation
482
00:19:58,980 --> 00:20:01,200
that goes beyond the
boundaries of Skinwalker Ranch.
483
00:20:02,288 --> 00:20:03,985
Well, if you get
any stuff like this,
484
00:20:04,115 --> 00:20:05,963
- absolutely let us see it.
- Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
485
00:20:05,987 --> 00:20:06,901
Especially, you know,
getting the date and the time
486
00:20:06,988 --> 00:20:08,946
with it also, that's great.
487
00:20:09,033 --> 00:20:11,253
You guys really stirred
the old, uh, hornets' nest up.
488
00:20:11,384 --> 00:20:12,820
Yeah.
489
00:20:12,907 --> 00:20:15,039
Okay, well, if I can borrow this
490
00:20:15,170 --> 00:20:15,779
- long enough to get the video off...
- JIM: Yep, absolutely.
491
00:20:15,866 --> 00:20:17,564
Absolutely.
492
00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:19,392
And I'm gonna tear it
apart frame by frame.
493
00:20:19,479 --> 00:20:21,394
- [laughs]
- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
494
00:20:21,481 --> 00:20:22,177
- I'll get back to the neighbor, okay.
- All right.
495
00:20:22,264 --> 00:20:23,613
- Thanks a lot.
- Thanks so much.
496
00:20:23,744 --> 00:20:25,069
- I'll get this back to you soon.
- Thank you.
497
00:20:25,093 --> 00:20:26,413
- See you later, Jim.
- Thank you.
498
00:20:37,366 --> 00:20:38,541
THOMAS: All right.
499
00:20:40,021 --> 00:20:42,589
- Well...
- BRYANT: Yup.
500
00:20:42,719 --> 00:20:44,765
This is the area
we're looking at.
501
00:20:44,852 --> 00:20:47,246
THOMAS: After our
meeting with Chris Bartel,
502
00:20:47,376 --> 00:20:49,030
we brought Jake Huffman out,
503
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,120
who has spent his career
building oil well sites
504
00:20:52,207 --> 00:20:55,079
and as part of that, uh,
has used a lot of explosives
505
00:20:55,166 --> 00:20:56,864
and done a lot of blasting.
506
00:20:56,951 --> 00:20:59,432
We wanted to get
his eyes on the mesa
507
00:20:59,519 --> 00:21:01,639
and see if he could tell if
this was a natural cave-in
508
00:21:01,695 --> 00:21:04,263
or a purposeful one,
and what the best method
509
00:21:04,350 --> 00:21:06,526
for getting into
the mesa would be.
510
00:21:06,656 --> 00:21:09,616
Well, about a quarter of
the way down from the top,
511
00:21:09,703 --> 00:21:14,360
there's an opening where
that little clay slough-off is.
512
00:21:14,447 --> 00:21:17,014
We had a former
guard from Bigelow's era
513
00:21:17,145 --> 00:21:19,016
that told us about
this large opening
514
00:21:19,103 --> 00:21:21,497
he'd climbed down in, there
were some traps and stuff,
515
00:21:21,584 --> 00:21:23,586
but it appeared like
it had collapsed in.
516
00:21:23,673 --> 00:21:25,414
And the whole time
we've been here,
517
00:21:25,501 --> 00:21:28,199
we've heard reports
of these large tunnels
518
00:21:28,330 --> 00:21:30,941
that people can walk
clear, clear back in.
519
00:21:31,028 --> 00:21:32,552
- Really?
- Uh-huh.
520
00:21:32,639 --> 00:21:34,519
Some underground bases
and, I mean, you name it.
521
00:21:34,597 --> 00:21:35,966
We've heard all
kinds of crazy things
522
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:37,121
about this hill.
523
00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:38,819
And we've searched and searched
524
00:21:38,906 --> 00:21:41,604
and haven't found
anything that resembles that
525
00:21:41,735 --> 00:21:44,259
until we got to this spot,
526
00:21:44,346 --> 00:21:46,566
and it does appear like
there could have been
527
00:21:46,653 --> 00:21:49,351
a large opening that
went back and it caved in.
528
00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:51,788
♪ ♪
529
00:21:51,875 --> 00:21:53,288
JAKE: I'd like to
take a closer look,
530
00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:55,270
see if maybe we
can see some signs
531
00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:58,229
- of any drilling activity.
- THOMAS: Okay.
532
00:21:58,317 --> 00:22:00,014
Go ahead.
533
00:22:00,101 --> 00:22:02,669
We're just gonna go
right up here to the base.
534
00:22:06,542 --> 00:22:08,979
Looking at it, do
you see anything
535
00:22:09,110 --> 00:22:10,372
that would indicate to you
536
00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:13,723
that this was
collapsed on purpose?
537
00:22:13,810 --> 00:22:15,159
JAKE: Actually, yeah.
538
00:22:17,553 --> 00:22:19,816
Usually, if you have a slough,
539
00:22:19,947 --> 00:22:22,950
then you're gonna have
material that's built up somewhere,
540
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,475
you know, and I'm not
seeing anywhere where...
541
00:22:26,562 --> 00:22:29,260
softer material or
mud or anything
542
00:22:29,348 --> 00:22:31,508
- pushed out from underneath it.
- That was pushed out?
543
00:22:32,786 --> 00:22:34,178
That's a good point.
544
00:22:34,309 --> 00:22:36,703
- Hmm.
- JAKE: That tells me
545
00:22:36,790 --> 00:22:38,661
this was done for a purpose.
546
00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:43,840
I don't know what
that purpose would be.
547
00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:46,190
I can't see the
rock having a value
548
00:22:46,277 --> 00:22:48,018
as landscaping rocks, or...
549
00:22:49,542 --> 00:22:53,284
I believe at some point
there was blasting done,
550
00:22:53,415 --> 00:22:58,551
and perhaps that was
done to hide something.
551
00:23:00,379 --> 00:23:03,512
THOMAS: Jake suggests that
blasting has occurred in this area,
552
00:23:03,599 --> 00:23:07,473
that perhaps the face of this
mesa has been collapsed in,
553
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,389
and if so, it makes me wonder,
why did they collapse it in?
554
00:23:10,476 --> 00:23:12,173
Was it for safety,
to keep people out
555
00:23:12,303 --> 00:23:15,524
of these, uh, tunnels or
mines, or whatever they were,
556
00:23:15,611 --> 00:23:17,831
or were they trying
to hide something?
557
00:23:17,918 --> 00:23:19,069
We got to talk to Erik
and Travis about all this
558
00:23:19,093 --> 00:23:21,400
and see what they think.
559
00:23:21,530 --> 00:23:23,880
THOMAS: We definitely
need to investigate it a lot more.
560
00:23:23,967 --> 00:23:25,099
- Yep.
- So...
561
00:23:25,229 --> 00:23:27,144
We appreciate your expertise.
562
00:23:27,231 --> 00:23:28,102
I can only imagine we'll
have you back out here again.
563
00:23:28,189 --> 00:23:29,712
Whatever I can do to help.
564
00:23:29,799 --> 00:23:31,519
- Okay.
- Okay. We appreciate it. Thank you.
565
00:23:40,157 --> 00:23:43,160
THOMAS: We had an
interesting visit with Chris Bartel.
566
00:23:43,291 --> 00:23:44,573
Chris shared some
experiences that he had
567
00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:46,207
while he was here on the ranch.
568
00:23:46,294 --> 00:23:48,818
One of them, he was
going across the mesa.
569
00:23:48,905 --> 00:23:52,909
He was following some
very, very large tracks.
570
00:23:52,996 --> 00:23:56,130
The stride of this
animal is like three feet.
571
00:23:56,217 --> 00:23:57,479
That's a big animal.
572
00:23:57,566 --> 00:23:59,176
He used the term canine,
573
00:23:59,263 --> 00:24:01,657
but those tracks looked
like a very large wolf.
574
00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:06,053
And as he came down,
he found this cavern.
575
00:24:06,183 --> 00:24:09,317
It was pretty large, and
there were large traps
576
00:24:09,448 --> 00:24:11,058
that had been set
down inside of this.
577
00:24:12,755 --> 00:24:15,584
The interesting thing was, is
that when you look down in it,
578
00:24:15,671 --> 00:24:18,848
you can tell that the
rocks have collapsed down.
579
00:24:18,979 --> 00:24:20,260
Wait, wait, so you've
actually seen it?
580
00:24:20,284 --> 00:24:22,548
Yes, and I have a
solid GPS coordinate
581
00:24:22,635 --> 00:24:25,202
for the actual opening.
582
00:24:25,289 --> 00:24:26,682
So, if you provide
the coordinates,
583
00:24:26,813 --> 00:24:28,989
I can actually bring
it up on the screen.
584
00:24:29,076 --> 00:24:31,600
TRAVIS: Ever since I joined
the team two years ago,
585
00:24:31,731 --> 00:24:34,342
I've wanted to investigate
the stories about caves
586
00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:36,083
and supposed
underground caverns,
587
00:24:36,170 --> 00:24:38,564
but we just couldn't find any.
588
00:24:38,651 --> 00:24:39,521
- I say we pull this up on the screen and look at it.
- OTHERS: Yeah.
589
00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:41,784
Yeah, let's do that.
590
00:24:41,871 --> 00:24:44,874
So, when Thomas said that
former Bigelow team member
591
00:24:45,005 --> 00:24:49,009
Chris Bartel showed them where
one was possibly covered over,
592
00:24:49,096 --> 00:24:51,620
I couldn't wait to learn more.
593
00:24:51,707 --> 00:24:54,101
THOMAS: It's about three-quarters
of the way up the mesa,
594
00:24:54,188 --> 00:24:56,495
and it looks like
595
00:24:56,582 --> 00:24:58,975
there potentially could have
been a much larger cavern
596
00:24:59,106 --> 00:25:02,631
that the whole thing has just
kind of sunk in and collapsed.
597
00:25:02,718 --> 00:25:05,068
Is this close to where
we're starting to see
598
00:25:05,155 --> 00:25:08,594
some of the GPS anomalies
where they vanished into the mesa?
599
00:25:08,681 --> 00:25:11,335
Now, that is a great question.
600
00:25:11,422 --> 00:25:14,121
Actually, it's the opposite.
601
00:25:14,251 --> 00:25:16,340
In some of our exercises,
602
00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:18,212
we've seen things seem to emerge
603
00:25:18,342 --> 00:25:20,823
from about that
part of the mesa.
604
00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:22,303
- Hmm.
- Really?
605
00:25:22,390 --> 00:25:25,132
♪ ♪
606
00:25:25,262 --> 00:25:27,395
- TRAVIS: Package away.
- Earlier this summer,
607
00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:30,224
we conducted two
different aerial experiments
608
00:25:30,311 --> 00:25:32,748
over the triangle area,
using GPS sensors...
609
00:25:32,835 --> 00:25:34,358
ERIK: I'm getting
something, yeah.
610
00:25:34,445 --> 00:25:36,360
Trying to pinpoint the location
611
00:25:36,447 --> 00:25:38,145
where we keep detecting
high-energy spikes
612
00:25:38,232 --> 00:25:40,103
about a mile above the ranch.
613
00:25:40,190 --> 00:25:42,758
These blue cubes represent
614
00:25:42,845 --> 00:25:45,587
the position of
the GPS payloads.
615
00:25:45,718 --> 00:25:48,111
It looks like you
smashed into the mesa.
616
00:25:48,242 --> 00:25:50,897
You popped out on
this side right there.
617
00:25:51,027 --> 00:25:54,335
TRAVIS: But in both cases,
the GPS data we collected
618
00:25:54,422 --> 00:25:57,077
inexplicably showed
that our aircrafts
619
00:25:57,164 --> 00:25:58,644
flew down below the mesa.
620
00:25:58,774 --> 00:26:00,297
Look at that.
621
00:26:00,384 --> 00:26:02,691
That's about that
location right there.
622
00:26:02,822 --> 00:26:06,129
And now it looks like
the exit point corresponds
623
00:26:06,260 --> 00:26:08,262
with this spot where
Chris Bartel says
624
00:26:08,349 --> 00:26:09,698
a cave entrance used to exist.
625
00:26:09,785 --> 00:26:11,700
I don't know yet,
626
00:26:11,787 --> 00:26:13,833
but maybe that's where
627
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,226
our answers about the
triangle area are hidden.
628
00:26:16,313 --> 00:26:19,316
After seeing this, we
brought Jake out here
629
00:26:19,403 --> 00:26:21,580
and had him look at it.
630
00:26:21,667 --> 00:26:25,061
He had a feeling
that it looked like
631
00:26:25,148 --> 00:26:27,455
there had been some
demolition work there.
632
00:26:27,542 --> 00:26:30,545
Did Bigelow's team
discover something
633
00:26:30,632 --> 00:26:32,765
that we have yet to discover?
634
00:26:32,852 --> 00:26:34,549
If there really is a cave there
635
00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:36,638
and it was covered up,
636
00:26:36,725 --> 00:26:38,205
that had to be done
637
00:26:38,292 --> 00:26:39,852
during Bigelow's
ownership of the ranch,
638
00:26:39,902 --> 00:26:41,861
since he's the one that
Brandon bought it from.
639
00:26:41,991 --> 00:26:44,733
So, given that Bigelow
was funded in part
640
00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:47,431
by the federal government
for his research,
641
00:26:47,562 --> 00:26:50,086
what could they have found
that needed to be kept hidden?
642
00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:53,307
It'd be good to get
Pete Kelsey to fly over it
643
00:26:53,394 --> 00:26:55,352
with the infrared camera
644
00:26:55,439 --> 00:26:57,239
and see if there's any
temperature differences
645
00:26:57,311 --> 00:26:58,751
that might suggest
there's an airflow
646
00:26:58,878 --> 00:27:00,357
or a pocket or something.
647
00:27:00,488 --> 00:27:03,404
Absolutely. I-I've
been really impressed
648
00:27:03,534 --> 00:27:05,164
by his work in the past,
and to be able to have him
649
00:27:05,188 --> 00:27:07,103
bring out even more equipment
650
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:09,628
that's more technologically
advanced would be awesome.
651
00:27:09,715 --> 00:27:11,194
ERIK: It sounds
like we got a plan.
652
00:27:11,281 --> 00:27:12,631
The more detail we can get
653
00:27:12,718 --> 00:27:14,347
about this part of the
property the better.
654
00:27:14,371 --> 00:27:16,765
- We'll get right to it.
- Okay, sounds good.
655
00:27:16,852 --> 00:27:18,637
♪ ♪
656
00:27:23,772 --> 00:27:25,992
TRAVIS: Right in here somewhere?
657
00:27:26,122 --> 00:27:27,602
THOMAS: Right up
on the edge up there.
658
00:27:28,777 --> 00:27:31,040
TRAVIS: To help us figure out
659
00:27:31,171 --> 00:27:32,825
if this really is a
covered entrance
660
00:27:32,912 --> 00:27:34,914
to something in the mesa,
661
00:27:35,044 --> 00:27:36,742
technologist Pete
Kelsey has brought out
662
00:27:36,829 --> 00:27:39,222
a drone with a
thermal imaging camera
663
00:27:39,309 --> 00:27:42,356
that'll be able to identify
any signs of voids
664
00:27:42,443 --> 00:27:43,836
or caverns below the rubble.
665
00:27:43,923 --> 00:27:46,142
PETE: This looks great.
666
00:27:46,273 --> 00:27:48,492
- Thank you, sir.
- Uh-huh.
667
00:27:48,623 --> 00:27:51,017
PETE: The guys have
asked me to look for caves
668
00:27:51,147 --> 00:27:52,734
here on the property. The
thermal camera could be
669
00:27:52,758 --> 00:27:54,281
a really good fit there,
670
00:27:54,368 --> 00:27:57,676
because typically
caves, tunnels,
671
00:27:57,806 --> 00:28:00,809
the air inside is much
cooler than the air outside.
672
00:28:00,940 --> 00:28:02,811
If it shows cold air,
673
00:28:02,942 --> 00:28:04,683
that could mean
that there's a network.
674
00:28:04,813 --> 00:28:06,728
All right, I got all
green lights here.
675
00:28:06,815 --> 00:28:08,861
Ready when you are.
676
00:28:08,948 --> 00:28:11,820
Where's the hole, Thomas?
677
00:28:11,907 --> 00:28:15,041
It's, uh, basically
right... right up there.
678
00:28:15,171 --> 00:28:18,044
You can only see it
from the top down.
679
00:28:18,131 --> 00:28:19,785
You can't see it looking up.
680
00:28:19,872 --> 00:28:22,004
So, I'm gonna just go
up there so that you have
681
00:28:22,135 --> 00:28:23,939
an easy point of reference
as you're trying to locate
682
00:28:23,963 --> 00:28:25,616
where this opening is at.
683
00:28:25,704 --> 00:28:27,203
I think it will be a lot
easier if I'm up there
684
00:28:27,227 --> 00:28:29,316
- standing close to it, so...
- Okay.
685
00:28:29,403 --> 00:28:30,839
Okay, I'm gonna get started.
686
00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:32,580
- Be careful.
- Yup.
687
00:28:32,711 --> 00:28:34,974
♪ ♪
688
00:28:35,061 --> 00:28:38,064
In my years on the ranch,
there's been rampant rumors
689
00:28:38,151 --> 00:28:42,982
about underground
tunnels, underground bases,
690
00:28:43,069 --> 00:28:45,506
and really, with the technology
that we're deploying now,
691
00:28:45,593 --> 00:28:48,509
the hopes is to either find it
692
00:28:48,639 --> 00:28:50,399
or-or finally put it to
bed once and for all.
693
00:28:51,817 --> 00:28:54,036
- Right here.
- There?
694
00:28:54,167 --> 00:28:57,213
- Yup.
- Spinning up.
695
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:00,042
[whirring]
696
00:29:00,129 --> 00:29:02,088
[beeping steadily]
697
00:29:03,829 --> 00:29:05,023
TRAVIS: So, you're flying
the thermal camera first?
698
00:29:05,047 --> 00:29:06,483
PETE: Yeah, so the fancy term is
699
00:29:06,570 --> 00:29:09,182
this is a radiometric
thermal camera,
700
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:10,768
which means it will
give me the temperature.
701
00:29:10,792 --> 00:29:12,794
But it also can do just video.
702
00:29:12,881 --> 00:29:16,363
- ERIK: Very cool.
- Heading for Thomas.
703
00:29:16,450 --> 00:29:19,018
♪ ♪
704
00:29:19,148 --> 00:29:20,671
ERIK: There he is.
705
00:29:20,759 --> 00:29:22,238
PETE: I will zoom
in on him a bit.
706
00:29:24,501 --> 00:29:27,243
So, the hole must be that
thing right in front of him.
707
00:29:27,330 --> 00:29:28,330
Mm-hmm.
708
00:29:30,420 --> 00:29:34,773
Is that hole really the coldest
thing within the field of view?
709
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:37,558
- Yes. It's black.
- Okay.
710
00:29:37,645 --> 00:29:40,256
PETE: It's 64 degrees.
711
00:29:40,343 --> 00:29:42,737
Whereas on the rock
surfaces you are at...
712
00:29:42,868 --> 00:29:45,784
Yeah, out in the sun,
it just went to a 102.
713
00:29:45,871 --> 00:29:47,655
A 40-degree difference?
714
00:29:49,048 --> 00:29:50,963
I'm gonna go ahead and take
715
00:29:51,093 --> 00:29:52,529
one of those smoke
bombs up there.
716
00:29:52,616 --> 00:29:54,056
So you guys keep
an eye out down here
717
00:29:54,140 --> 00:29:55,421
and see if you see
smoke coming out.
718
00:29:55,445 --> 00:29:57,012
That is a great idea.
719
00:29:57,143 --> 00:29:59,449
♪ ♪
720
00:29:59,580 --> 00:30:02,148
TRAVIS: In addition to
Pete's high-tech drone,
721
00:30:02,235 --> 00:30:04,585
we also brought along
some low-tech smoke bombs,
722
00:30:04,672 --> 00:30:07,327
to look for evidence of
holes or possible entry points.
723
00:30:07,414 --> 00:30:09,808
Once we drop the bombs,
724
00:30:09,895 --> 00:30:11,984
if the smoke starts emitting
back out of the mesa
725
00:30:12,114 --> 00:30:14,005
from different points then
where we dropped them,
726
00:30:14,029 --> 00:30:15,726
it would be a sign
that there really is
727
00:30:15,857 --> 00:30:18,555
a covered-up cave
or tunnel system
728
00:30:18,686 --> 00:30:21,012
- under all these boulders.
- BRYANT [over walkie]: Hey, Travis.
729
00:30:21,036 --> 00:30:22,622
We're ready for you to
pop that smoke bomb.
730
00:30:22,646 --> 00:30:24,387
All right, we're
gonna pop a smoke.
731
00:30:24,474 --> 00:30:26,650
Three...
732
00:30:26,737 --> 00:30:28,827
two, one...
733
00:30:28,914 --> 00:30:31,351
Popping smoke, popping smoke.
734
00:30:34,615 --> 00:30:36,704
- ERIK: You see any effect?
- PETE: No.
735
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,720
There, it's starting to
come out. Look at that.
736
00:30:40,751 --> 00:30:42,623
Blue smoke.
737
00:30:42,710 --> 00:30:45,365
Yeah, so I'm getting
no love on the thermal.
738
00:30:45,452 --> 00:30:48,194
So, I'll switch to RGB.
739
00:30:49,499 --> 00:30:52,067
THOMAS: Oh, it's
coming out down here.
740
00:30:52,198 --> 00:30:54,113
TRAVIS: Oh, look.
Look behind you.
741
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,766
It's coming out everywhere.
742
00:30:55,854 --> 00:30:58,160
Ooh, that makes my day.
743
00:30:58,247 --> 00:31:00,249
TRAVIS: Wow, look at that.
744
00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:02,425
THOMAS: Little
wasps of it down here.
745
00:31:02,556 --> 00:31:05,689
ERIK: If there's a connection
between these larger openings,
746
00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:07,842
- perhaps that cave we're talking about.
- PETE: Yeah.
747
00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:09,998
There was a cave at one time.
748
00:31:10,129 --> 00:31:12,871
Thomas and I have found
a couple of holes up here.
749
00:31:12,958 --> 00:31:16,222
I think we're gonna throw
our smoke grenades in there.
750
00:31:16,309 --> 00:31:18,113
So, keep an eye out,
see if you see it coming out
751
00:31:18,137 --> 00:31:20,791
- anywhere on the mesa.
- Copy that, thanks.
752
00:31:20,879 --> 00:31:22,750
Right here.
753
00:31:29,061 --> 00:31:31,498
TRAVIS: Let it get smoking good.
754
00:31:31,585 --> 00:31:33,761
Oh, that's good, orange
smoke, orange smoke.
755
00:31:35,023 --> 00:31:37,504
Oh, I'm gonna step back.
756
00:31:37,591 --> 00:31:40,246
Yeah, definitely, we got smoke.
757
00:31:40,333 --> 00:31:41,856
PETE: A little bit.
758
00:31:41,987 --> 00:31:44,903
ERIK: Yeah.
759
00:31:45,033 --> 00:31:46,706
TRAVIS: There should be a
lot more smoke coming out.
760
00:31:46,730 --> 00:31:49,124
Actually, look, look,
it's getting sucked in.
761
00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:52,214
TRAVIS: Yeah, the
smoke's going down.
762
00:31:52,301 --> 00:31:53,824
THOMAS: Oh, look,
it's completely gone.
763
00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:55,391
We should be seeing
smoke everywhere.
764
00:31:55,478 --> 00:31:58,481
- There's no smoke.
- There is nothing here.
765
00:31:58,612 --> 00:32:00,440
No smoke?
766
00:32:00,570 --> 00:32:03,095
BRYANT: I don't see anything.
767
00:32:03,182 --> 00:32:04,792
TRAVIS: Where did it go?
768
00:32:08,970 --> 00:32:11,059
BRYANT: Where'd the smoke go?
769
00:32:11,146 --> 00:32:12,495
Where'd it go?
770
00:32:12,626 --> 00:32:14,019
Actually, look, look.
771
00:32:14,106 --> 00:32:15,455
It's getting sucked in.
772
00:32:15,585 --> 00:32:17,936
TRAVIS: Yeah, the
smoke's going down.
773
00:32:18,023 --> 00:32:20,025
The wind's blowing the
smoke down, Dragon.
774
00:32:20,112 --> 00:32:22,766
Really?
775
00:32:22,897 --> 00:32:24,570
THOMAS: When we dropped
smoke bombs down this opening,
776
00:32:24,594 --> 00:32:26,422
the smoke started to come out,
777
00:32:26,509 --> 00:32:28,729
and then it was as if
somebody turned on a vacuum,
778
00:32:28,859 --> 00:32:31,427
and the smoke just disappeared
and sucked down in the hole.
779
00:32:31,558 --> 00:32:33,647
Yeah, something's
sucking the smoke
780
00:32:33,734 --> 00:32:35,866
into the cave or the hole.
781
00:32:35,997 --> 00:32:37,738
THOMAS: Nothing.
782
00:32:37,825 --> 00:32:41,133
There's no smoke at all!
783
00:32:41,220 --> 00:32:43,048
That is really strange.
784
00:32:43,178 --> 00:32:44,440
PETE: Yeah, it's inhaling.
785
00:32:44,571 --> 00:32:45,896
ERIK: Yeah, it's
inhaling all right.
786
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,704
So, if that's an
inhale, the question is,
787
00:32:47,791 --> 00:32:49,271
where are the lungs?
788
00:32:49,358 --> 00:32:50,683
TRAVIS [over walkie]:
Hey, Erik, you copy?
789
00:32:50,707 --> 00:32:52,753
Yeah, go ahead, Travis.
790
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,495
You guys don't see
any smoke down there?
791
00:32:55,582 --> 00:32:58,150
Travis, I could only see
the smoke at the beginning.
792
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:59,605
It disappeared just
like you reported.
793
00:32:59,629 --> 00:33:01,675
No trace.
794
00:33:01,805 --> 00:33:03,285
I don't see it coming
out of anywhere.
795
00:33:06,767 --> 00:33:08,334
- You going up top?
- Yeah.
796
00:33:08,421 --> 00:33:09,857
TRAVIS: Thomas is going up top.
797
00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:11,008
Look up there and see
if you can see any smoke
798
00:33:11,032 --> 00:33:12,251
with the drone.
799
00:33:12,338 --> 00:33:13,513
Yeah. All right, panning up.
800
00:33:13,643 --> 00:33:15,471
♪ ♪
801
00:33:19,084 --> 00:33:22,043
- You see any effect?
- No.
802
00:33:22,130 --> 00:33:25,307
- TRAVIS: Anything, Thomas?
- No.
803
00:33:25,394 --> 00:33:28,223
TRAVIS: For the smoke to be
getting pulled down into the mesa,
804
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:31,139
that means that there's
some kind of cavern or void
805
00:33:31,270 --> 00:33:34,664
sucking the smoke back
underground like a vacuum.
806
00:33:34,751 --> 00:33:37,189
Is it something natural
or could there be
807
00:33:37,319 --> 00:33:39,495
some artificial object
or device causing that?
808
00:33:39,626 --> 00:33:42,150
Hey, guys, I got one more.
809
00:33:42,237 --> 00:33:43,978
Do we want to try
and repeat that?
810
00:33:44,109 --> 00:33:45,458
I say we do. What do you think?
811
00:33:45,588 --> 00:33:46,502
- Yeah.
- Heck, yeah.
812
00:33:46,589 --> 00:33:47,895
- Okay, I'll bring it up.
- Okay.
813
00:33:48,983 --> 00:33:50,724
TRAVIS: Erik, be advised,
814
00:33:50,854 --> 00:33:52,595
Dragon has one
more smoke grenade.
815
00:33:52,726 --> 00:33:53,509
He's gonna bring it up
and we're gonna drop it
816
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,598
in the hole for a repeat.
817
00:33:55,729 --> 00:33:56,729
Copy that.
818
00:33:56,773 --> 00:33:58,079
You want to do it, Dragon, or...
819
00:33:58,210 --> 00:33:59,602
Sure, I can.
820
00:33:59,733 --> 00:34:01,300
All right, well, look.
821
00:34:01,387 --> 00:34:02,953
We're getting ready
to pop smoke again,
822
00:34:03,041 --> 00:34:04,825
so keep an eye out.
823
00:34:04,912 --> 00:34:09,047
Three, two, one...
824
00:34:11,875 --> 00:34:13,747
Yeah, that's probably
good enough.
825
00:34:15,575 --> 00:34:17,620
- PETE: Purple smoke.
- ERIK: Yeah.
826
00:34:17,707 --> 00:34:19,076
There's just a
little bit coming out,
827
00:34:19,100 --> 00:34:20,580
but that... N-No.
828
00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:22,495
BRYANT: Look at it.
829
00:34:22,625 --> 00:34:25,324
- It's pulling it back down.
- Yeah, it is, look at it.
830
00:34:25,454 --> 00:34:27,494
TRAVIS: Yeah, look, it's
pulling it down right here.
831
00:34:30,111 --> 00:34:32,722
That first little bit
kind of filtered out,
832
00:34:32,853 --> 00:34:35,247
the rest is getting
sucked back down.
833
00:34:35,377 --> 00:34:38,163
THOMAS: There should be
a lot more smoke than that.
834
00:34:38,293 --> 00:34:40,774
TARVIS: Those smoke
grenades last a while.
835
00:34:40,904 --> 00:34:43,342
- It's gone.
- It's gone, look.
836
00:34:43,472 --> 00:34:45,648
That's just weird.
837
00:34:45,735 --> 00:34:48,216
Hey, Erik, same thing happened.
838
00:34:48,303 --> 00:34:49,503
A little bit of smoke came out
839
00:34:49,565 --> 00:34:51,176
then it all just
kind of went away.
840
00:34:51,263 --> 00:34:52,762
Did y'all see any smoke
come out of anywhere?
841
00:34:52,786 --> 00:34:54,396
Not down here, Travis.
842
00:34:54,483 --> 00:34:57,312
Did Thomas see
anything on the back side?
843
00:34:57,443 --> 00:34:59,880
- I don't see anything up here.
- TRAVIS: Yeah?
844
00:35:00,010 --> 00:35:01,945
I even walked back there
up on the ridge a little bit.
845
00:35:01,969 --> 00:35:02,969
I don't see anything.
846
00:35:04,624 --> 00:35:06,626
We've got a lot of
data suggesting that
847
00:35:06,713 --> 00:35:09,542
there's something interesting
going on in this area.
848
00:35:09,672 --> 00:35:12,066
With all the stories that
we've heard of tunnels
849
00:35:12,153 --> 00:35:16,244
and caverns and underground
bases here in the mesa,
850
00:35:16,375 --> 00:35:19,856
I finally feel like we're starting
to make some progress.
851
00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:22,468
Well, it means there's got to
be some sort of an opening,
852
00:35:22,555 --> 00:35:25,340
if it's pulling that much smoke
and none of it's leaking out.
853
00:35:25,427 --> 00:35:27,777
We're out of smoke bombs,
I guess just head down.
854
00:35:27,864 --> 00:35:30,084
All right, I'm landing.
855
00:35:31,868 --> 00:35:34,088
ERIK: As I like to say,
"We are led by the data."
856
00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:36,438
And all of the
data are pointing to
857
00:35:36,525 --> 00:35:38,875
the existence of a large void,
858
00:35:38,962 --> 00:35:41,530
somewhere inside of
the face of this mesa.
859
00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:45,143
I would love to get
eyes on what's in there.
860
00:35:45,273 --> 00:35:47,797
- Welcome back to earth.
- OTHERS: Yeah.
861
00:35:47,928 --> 00:35:50,322
So you did find something?
862
00:35:50,452 --> 00:35:53,455
Uh, we did find something.
863
00:35:53,542 --> 00:35:55,849
Sure weird, from
what I saw from the air.
864
00:35:55,936 --> 00:35:59,548
It was, it was like the mesa
just took a deep breath.
865
00:35:59,679 --> 00:36:03,073
Yep, you could literally see it
being sucked down into the hole.
866
00:36:03,204 --> 00:36:05,815
And the hole, it seems
like it just went forever.
867
00:36:05,902 --> 00:36:07,861
It was just like a
vacuum cleaner turned on
868
00:36:07,991 --> 00:36:09,384
and it sucked all
that smoke down
869
00:36:09,515 --> 00:36:10,080
- and then it was gone.
- Yeah, it was gone.
870
00:36:10,211 --> 00:36:11,821
So, it went somewhere.
871
00:36:11,952 --> 00:36:14,346
That hole goes
deeper than we think.
872
00:36:14,476 --> 00:36:16,348
Well, I think we got to
figure some things out
873
00:36:16,478 --> 00:36:18,282
before we do the next thing.
We really want to do this right.
874
00:36:18,306 --> 00:36:20,917
The experiment
definitely confirmed
875
00:36:21,048 --> 00:36:22,963
that there is something
that we need to explore
876
00:36:23,093 --> 00:36:24,617
deep inside the mesa.
877
00:36:24,704 --> 00:36:26,706
But we're gonna have
to move some earth,
878
00:36:26,836 --> 00:36:28,186
and that means
digging or drilling
879
00:36:28,273 --> 00:36:29,709
to find out what it is.
880
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:31,279
So, we need to have
a serious meeting
881
00:36:31,319 --> 00:36:32,427
with Brandon and
get his blessing,
882
00:36:32,451 --> 00:36:34,279
'cause we've seen in the past,
883
00:36:34,409 --> 00:36:37,151
it's always risky to dig
on Skinwalker Ranch,
884
00:36:37,282 --> 00:36:38,892
but I don't see another choice.
885
00:36:38,979 --> 00:36:40,981
Great work, as always, Pete.
886
00:36:41,111 --> 00:36:43,046
- Thank you very much, appreciate it.
- Oh, my pleasure.
887
00:36:43,070 --> 00:36:44,854
All right. We'll
load up, head back.
888
00:36:54,690 --> 00:36:56,562
ERIK: Oh, well, here they are.
889
00:36:56,649 --> 00:36:58,607
TRAVIS: Now that
we've found what may be
890
00:36:58,694 --> 00:37:01,828
a purposely covered up system
of caverns, or who knows what,
891
00:37:01,915 --> 00:37:02,915
in the mesa...
892
00:37:04,091 --> 00:37:07,137
we need to explain it to Brandon
893
00:37:07,225 --> 00:37:08,617
and have a serious
discussion about
894
00:37:08,748 --> 00:37:10,445
what he's willing
to allow us to do
895
00:37:10,532 --> 00:37:13,535
to get inside and see what
the heck could be there.
896
00:37:13,622 --> 00:37:15,189
Well, Brandon, as usual,
897
00:37:15,276 --> 00:37:16,732
we have some
intriguing things to report.
898
00:37:16,756 --> 00:37:20,150
We've taken a lot of data
with the GPS experiments,
899
00:37:20,238 --> 00:37:21,606
with the helicopter,
with the airplane,
900
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:24,851
and we've seemed to find
901
00:37:24,938 --> 00:37:27,506
there's an anomaly
that's just a little bit west
902
00:37:27,593 --> 00:37:30,552
of the, uh, triangle that's
causing it to look like...
903
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:32,269
actually, that Cameron's
helicopter flew us
904
00:37:32,293 --> 00:37:34,034
into the mesa,
905
00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:36,732
and then out of the mesa
on top somehow or other.
906
00:37:36,819 --> 00:37:38,449
- Okay.
- TRAVIS: That's kind of in the same location
907
00:37:38,473 --> 00:37:40,693
that we've had an
eyewitness suggest
908
00:37:40,780 --> 00:37:42,105
that there was a
cave there in the past.
909
00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:44,262
Really? Oh. Wow.
910
00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:48,527
Chris Bartel, uh, one
of the former guards
911
00:37:48,614 --> 00:37:51,443
for Mr. Bigelow, he came
out here and visited with us,
912
00:37:51,573 --> 00:37:53,706
and he showed us this cavern.
913
00:37:53,793 --> 00:37:56,752
Thomas and I had one
of his associates come out
914
00:37:56,839 --> 00:37:58,798
who's done a lot of
blasting and drilling.
915
00:37:58,928 --> 00:38:00,190
Well, he-he just looked at it,
916
00:38:00,321 --> 00:38:02,236
and he said it does
have the appearance
917
00:38:02,367 --> 00:38:05,587
that it could have been
blasted and collapsed.
918
00:38:05,674 --> 00:38:07,850
Chris Bartel showing
us this cavern
919
00:38:07,937 --> 00:38:09,504
led us to explore
further in that area
920
00:38:09,635 --> 00:38:11,245
to see if we could
find other clues
921
00:38:11,376 --> 00:38:13,552
or maybe other entrances.
922
00:38:13,682 --> 00:38:16,032
- Mm-hmm.
- And we actually did find some other holes,
923
00:38:16,119 --> 00:38:18,470
uh, which we dropped
smoke bombs down into.
924
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,473
The smoke started to come
up out of the hole and then it was
925
00:38:21,603 --> 00:38:23,039
as if somebody
turned on a vacuum,
926
00:38:23,170 --> 00:38:25,303
and the smoke sucked
down into the hole,
927
00:38:25,390 --> 00:38:26,913
and we never saw
another trace of it.
928
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,611
- Wow.
- That was really strange.
929
00:38:29,742 --> 00:38:31,874
Yeah, it was... it was odd.
930
00:38:31,961 --> 00:38:36,749
It really suggests that there
is some sort of opening,
931
00:38:36,879 --> 00:38:40,274
uh, network underneath the
rocks, underneath the mesa.
932
00:38:40,361 --> 00:38:45,323
The fact that the-the
smoke experiment showed
933
00:38:45,410 --> 00:38:48,021
that there's some
void, there's something
934
00:38:48,108 --> 00:38:51,677
that is pulling that
material into the mesa,
935
00:38:51,807 --> 00:38:53,505
I mean, that's-that's
a key clue.
936
00:38:53,592 --> 00:38:55,594
Yeah, it was the
most bizarre thing.
937
00:38:55,724 --> 00:38:57,987
There's an airflow somewhere
going into something,
938
00:38:58,074 --> 00:39:00,381
a void somewhere or whatever.
939
00:39:00,468 --> 00:39:02,557
Since it never came
out lower, that suggests
940
00:39:02,644 --> 00:39:05,473
there's an opening underneath,
underneath the mesa out there.
941
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,737
- Yeah.
- As we've discussed before,
942
00:39:08,824 --> 00:39:11,958
this is an area attended
by GPS receivers
943
00:39:12,088 --> 00:39:15,483
behaving anomalously
in that part of the ranch.
944
00:39:15,614 --> 00:39:18,051
What's doing it? What's
interfering with them?
945
00:39:18,138 --> 00:39:20,967
- And what may have been covered up in the past?
- ERIK: Yeah.
946
00:39:21,054 --> 00:39:23,361
BRANDON: What were
they hiding in that mesa?
947
00:39:23,448 --> 00:39:25,145
That's the big question, right?
948
00:39:25,232 --> 00:39:27,365
What were they hiding
and why would they
949
00:39:27,452 --> 00:39:31,064
deliberately cover
up their tracks?
950
00:39:31,151 --> 00:39:33,327
I think Thomas has
found the ideal solution.
951
00:39:33,458 --> 00:39:34,894
What would you propose?
952
00:39:34,981 --> 00:39:37,679
Well, I have a, I
have a good friend
953
00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,289
that is a driller.
954
00:39:39,377 --> 00:39:41,814
Now, he's a horizontal driller.
955
00:39:41,944 --> 00:39:44,686
This drill is special in
the fact that it's directional,
956
00:39:44,773 --> 00:39:47,210
and it allows him to
steer the bit around.
957
00:39:47,341 --> 00:39:50,039
- Wow.
- And so, we could set it up at the base of the mesa
958
00:39:50,126 --> 00:39:52,912
and drill horizontally
into the mesa,
959
00:39:52,999 --> 00:39:56,132
and we can steer it around.
960
00:39:56,263 --> 00:39:57,980
And so, it would allow
us to explore and see
961
00:39:58,004 --> 00:40:00,441
if we might be able to
punch into one of these voids.
962
00:40:00,528 --> 00:40:04,314
That is a perfect match for
our problem set, Thomas.
963
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:07,622
I'm very curious to find
out what may be hidden
964
00:40:07,709 --> 00:40:09,972
in that chamber or
at least in that area.
965
00:40:10,059 --> 00:40:13,323
You have my approval to
proceed, but proceed with care.
966
00:40:13,411 --> 00:40:16,414
I want to minimize the
amount of disruption
967
00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:18,372
over in that area, and
I want to make sure
968
00:40:18,503 --> 00:40:21,027
that safety is paramount.
969
00:40:21,114 --> 00:40:24,030
- You got it, Brandon.
- BRYANT: Let's go.
970
00:40:24,117 --> 00:40:27,076
TARVIS: You can't
really take this ranch
971
00:40:27,163 --> 00:40:29,427
as a serious
scientific investigation
972
00:40:29,557 --> 00:40:32,255
if you don't take in mind
973
00:40:32,342 --> 00:40:34,262
all of the lore and
mythology that comes with it.
974
00:40:34,388 --> 00:40:37,173
We've heard so many stories
975
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:39,219
about what's
underneath this mesa.
976
00:40:39,306 --> 00:40:42,396
We've heard myths of caves
that have portals in them,
977
00:40:42,527 --> 00:40:44,442
even a military base.
978
00:40:44,529 --> 00:40:46,748
Any information we
could get that tells us
979
00:40:46,835 --> 00:40:50,752
there's some type of
void or even a structure,
980
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:53,189
that would be
amazing information.
981
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,278
BRANDON: I believe
as we move forward,
982
00:40:55,409 --> 00:40:59,369
the mesa holds secrets
that have yet to be revealed.
983
00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:02,590
We have to always be aware
984
00:41:02,721 --> 00:41:05,288
that anytime we begin
digging or disturbing the earth,
985
00:41:05,419 --> 00:41:08,814
we stand to experience harm
986
00:41:08,901 --> 00:41:11,338
and there's a risk involved.
987
00:41:11,425 --> 00:41:15,864
However, I can tell you
we are onto something.
988
00:41:15,951 --> 00:41:18,084
This is the time to
put our foot on the gas
989
00:41:18,214 --> 00:41:20,434
and to charge forward,
990
00:41:20,521 --> 00:41:23,263
so we can hopefully
catch a glimpse
991
00:41:23,393 --> 00:41:26,005
of what is really at work
at Skinwalker Ranch.
992
00:41:31,227 --> 00:41:34,840
THOMAS: We're hoping that
we can go drill through the mesa
993
00:41:34,927 --> 00:41:36,189
and see if we hit any voids.
994
00:41:37,843 --> 00:41:39,763
BRYANT: That looks like
a big chunk of something.
995
00:41:39,845 --> 00:41:42,978
What is that? It
definitely looks metallic.
996
00:41:43,065 --> 00:41:45,154
BRYANT: Let's run a snake
camera down in the mesa.
997
00:41:45,241 --> 00:41:46,591
There it is.
998
00:41:46,721 --> 00:41:47,721
What is that?
999
00:41:47,809 --> 00:41:50,072
This thing is broadcasting.
1000
00:41:50,159 --> 00:41:52,248
This thing shouldn't be
broadcasting anything.
1001
00:41:52,335 --> 00:41:55,077
- Hey. Are you okay?
- No.
1002
00:41:55,164 --> 00:41:56,364
BRYANT:
Tom just blacked out.
1003
00:41:56,388 --> 00:41:58,388
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