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there really is a cave system
beneath this ranch.
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TRAVIS:
This is the hole
you was talking about?
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THOMAS:
Yeah. We're gonna fill it
with water
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and put some dye in it.
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TRAVIS:
It's draining quickly.
You guys need to get out there
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and start looking
for this stuff.
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I don't see any green water.
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We saw 45,000 gallons
of water disappear.
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It must be going
somewhere rapidly.
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Yeah, I think that
it's time that we need
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to get below the ground.
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Every time that someone
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does a major digging
on this property,
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then bad things happen.
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You guys should take a look
at Kaleb's phone.
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I don't have
any control over it.
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It just goes
right past my passcode.
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Something here
is crying out for help.
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KALEB:
Or is it giving us a warning?
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TRAVIS:
A little more than eight hours
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after digging down at the pit,
this rectangular-shaped object
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instantly vanished.
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It was right there. Something
yellow and goldish color.
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That scared the (bleep)
out of me.
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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BRANDON (over phone):
Hey, Dragon. What's going on?
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BRYANT:
We had some crazy stuff go down
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that we all want
to share with you.
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Hey, Brandon.
It's Travis, uh, and, uh, Kaleb
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and the other guys j--
are just gonna jump in
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as we go through the story.
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But just after dark,
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-Kaleb actually heard something
in the bushes.
-Mm-hmm.
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Like, uh, very near to us,
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and it startled him enough
that he jumped up.
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-Kaleb you want to...?
-I drew my pistol out
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and I turned on--
the flashlight on,
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and I started looking--
going in the direction
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of where I was hearing this,
and it was behind
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that old trailer
and the-the canal bank there.
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TRAVIS: Right as we got even
with the trailer,
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uh, there was something
that was rectangular-shaped,
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and it was shimmering
yellowish-orange,
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and when Kaleb shined
his light on it,
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it instantly vanished.
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It didn't run off
through the weeds,
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it didn't fly off,
it didn't go through the ground,
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it didn't get in the creek.
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It just, I mean, just--
suddenly it was there
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and suddenly it wasn't.
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KALEB:
Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
There was this unmistakable
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rectangular-shaped object
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that was--
may have been about two
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to two and a half feet
in length,
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and maybe a foot or so
in height.
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And as Kaleb brings his pistol
fully on the target,
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it's like the light
comes back at us
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like it was off of a mirror.
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And then the thing
instantly vanished.
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I find it interesting
that an object could be
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that close, right inside,
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close here
to the command center,
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where we've got so many cameras,
and we didn't pick anything up.
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It was scary as hell.
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And while we were walking
back to the command center,
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I say, "Okay, guys,
I'm going to go ahead
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and turn my video off."
Within seconds
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of me saying that,
something flies across the sky
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uh, the southern--
looking due south,
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over the command center porch.
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And something flies across
the sky, and I'm like,
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"Oh, my God,
did y'all see that?"
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ERIK:
Yeah, we, uh,
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looking-looking to the south,
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uh, from the east field,
we caught several frames
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of this thing
streaking across the sky.
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TRAVIS:
At first glance you might think
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it's a-a meteorite
or a shooting star.
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Erik and I looked at it closely,
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and it kind of has
a different trajectory.
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It's going more...
almost perfectly horizontal,
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uh, as opposed to coming down
like a meteorite does
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when it's, when it's on
a trajectory impact course
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with the Earth.
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Maybe that's a telltale sign
that it's not a meteorite.
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ERIK:
Sure.
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Well, I would say
that we need to emphasize
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on finding out
a way to get more data
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on whatever this terrestrial
ground phenomena was,
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that we saw.
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If it's a thing in a suit,
we need to know that.
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If it's a, uh,
some Mother Nature phenomenon,
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we need to know that.
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So, it could have been something
that was humanoid,
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but we didn't see any arms,
legs, head, nothing.
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All we saw was a rectangular,
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shimmering
yellow-orange-ish phenomenon.
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All we can say is
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we felt in fear.
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We felt threatened,
we felt we were in danger,
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and that's what we got
to think about.
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I think we've always suspected
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that we're being monitored.
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You know, happening upon
strange objects and phenomena
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really speaks to the fact
that we're not alone
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on this ranch.
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-BRYANT: Ok, we'll do it.
-All right.
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All right, thanks, Brandon.
We'll talk to you soon.
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BRYANT: Yeah, so, I'm anxious
to get you to meet Travis.
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I know that we're glad that
you'd be willing to come out
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and show us some of the stuff
you found because, as you know,
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it's a vast piece of property,
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and trying to cover
all that area
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can be a little bit daunting.
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Glad to contribute to the team,
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and really excited
to meet Travis.
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BRANDON:
I thought it was important
that we bring in Ryan Skinner,
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who has spent years researching
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not only the landscape
of Skinwalker Ranch
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but the surrounding area.
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And he's documented in great
detail aspects of the property.
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RYAN:
As a result
of exploring out here
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was I became very familiar
with these mesas and hillsides.
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I'd have to say the strangest
event that occurred to me was
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I was out on the ranch,
a ball of light came up
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over one of these hillsides
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and started coming
directly towards me.
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And immediately,
a feeling of terror
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unlike anything I've ever
felt in my life before.
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I dropped everything I had,
my expensive camera,
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all of my equipment, and started
running back to the camp,
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and this thing
is now trailing me.
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It was real,
so I couldn't deny, I couldn't--
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No matter how many times
I went back in my head,
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I couldn't rationalize it away.
It really did happen.
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I hope to give any kind
of help and input I can,
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and I want to help solve
this mystery with the team.
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-I think I know you two.
-ERIK: Ryan.
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-THOMAS: Hey, Ryan.
-Hey.
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-Good to see you again.
-Tom, nice seeing you again.
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-ERIK: Good to see you again.
-Erik, what's going on man?
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-Hey, man. Travis Taylor.
-Travis, nice to meet you.
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-Nice to meet you.
-What's up, guys?
-ERIK: What's up, Dragon?
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THOMAS:
So, Ryan what are you
gonna show us?
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RYAN:
I came across
this, uh, location.
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Uh, it's up here on the mesa.
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It might give us some direction
as to what's behind all this.
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-Oh. Okay.
-THOMAS: Well,
let's grab the UTV
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-and let's head up.
-Okay. Sounds good.
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RYAN:
To me what's exciting
is the location of it.
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You know, it just stood out,
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and maybe it's gonna
jump out to you guys as well.
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You see that big large rock
over there?
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-That's where we're gonna
aim for.
-THOMAS: Okay.
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TRAVIS:
So, it's on which ridge?
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RYAN:
To the left of this big rock.
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Right there, there's kind of
those white...
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-Shapes.
-Oh, you-- the little
squiggle lines and stuff?
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-Is that what
you're talking about? Huh.
-RYAN: Right. Yep.
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RYAN:
I came out here a few years ago
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and we did come across
a pictograph
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that I couldn't interpret.
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I have no idea what it meant,
but it really stood out
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compared to the other rocks.
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TRAVIS:
This stuff is loose, y'all.
Be careful.
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RYAN:
I believe the ancient people
were aware
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of whatever's happening
to us right now.
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They left us clues
through their rock art
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and I hope the team and myself
can contribute to that mystery
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in finding out some answers.
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TRAVIS:
Guys, y'all got to get
up here and see this.
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THOMAS: Last summer
we had a cow that died.
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No predators have touched this,
which is highly unusual.
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Never seen one of those.
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JANILEE:
The eyes,
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the back end
of the cow were cut out.
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-You witnessed this
with your own eyes?
-Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
How'd you find this, Ryan?
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RYAN:
I've been walking all
throughout these cliffs
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and looking at every-- every
rock face, looking for something
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just like this,
and this one jumped out.
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We're halfway up the mesa
on the northeastern corner
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of Skinwalker Ranch,
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and Ryan Skinner, a person
with a long history here,
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has just shown us a really
interesting petroglyph
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on a rock face that none of us
have ever seen before.
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It looks like it may even be
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a-all the way over there.
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It looks like there might be
a line there.
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-Are you talking this
right here?
-Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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-TRAVIS: That right there
is where I'm thinking.
-Oh.
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It pokes out-- I can't tell
if it's the rock
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or if that continues on,
but it's possible.
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Hey, guys.
You know what I think this is?
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I think that's the Big Dipper.
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This is either Cassiopeia
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-or Draco.
-ERIK: Oh, wow.
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TRAVIS: Dating back centuries,
this entire region
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was inhabited
by indigenous people
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of the Navajo
and the Ute tribes.
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They were known to create
rock art such as petroglyphs
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which are carved, and
pictographs, which are painted.
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Now, these kinds of rock art
were typically used
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to either report something
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or to tell a story about
aspects of their heritage.
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Now, I've been studying
outer space
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for more than 35 years,
and I can't help but notice
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that some of these markings
in this feature look a lot like
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possible depictions
of constellations to me.
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We all know the Big Dipper.
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But Draco was a dragon
or a serpent creature
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in Greek mythology.
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So, I'm wondering,
if that's what this is,
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who carved this and just what
were they trying to convey?
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I don't know which one this is,
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but I think it could be
a star map.
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If that's north--
Look, look at this.
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-There's the mesa, huh?
-It's the mesa. Look at that.
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This, if you look here and
you trace all this like this,
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that looks just like the mesa,
don't it?
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It does, it actually has
a lot of the similarities,
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even the shape.
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TRAVIS:
Now we have to be very careful
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not to jump to conclusions,
but suddenly,
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I'm noticing that it looks
almost like someone
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carved a map of the mesa
in this rock art.
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Now, if that's what this is,
the question is why?
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Look here. There's two spots.
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Does that two spots
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look like a familiar place
if this is the mesa?
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BRYANT:
Oh, w-- the spot
where we had the beam
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-that came up
by the homestead area?
-Yeah.
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When we shined the laser
at the mesa,
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that's right where
we were with the laser.
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-THOMAS: You ready?
-TRAVIS: Yep.
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TRAVIS: Last summer, we were
investigating a phenomenon
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that has been reported where
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parts of the mesa supposedly
become illuminated.
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We started by shining
a laser beam at it
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to see what would happen.
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-There it is.
-Wait, is that--- There's two.
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TRAVIS:
Look.
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Do that again.
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THOMAS:
How is it doing that?
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TRAVIS:
That is so weird.
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Then, almost immediately
afterwards,
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we all witnessed
a strange glowing
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across the top of the ridge.
264
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Hey guys, we just noticed on
the screen here a second ago,
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do you see the glow,
the flicker?
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, it's flickering.
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It's just really strange to me
to see something eerily similar
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possibly being depicted
in this rock art.
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Is it because whoever
made this long ago
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experienced the same thing?
271
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I-I feel like I have to ask.
272
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So, when you happened
across this, Ryan,
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what jumped out to you?
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What d-- How did you interpret
this thing?
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Uh, the triangle jumped out
to me a little bit.
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The Shermans
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on the west side of the property
would see a portal open up,
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and these miniature triangles
would come out
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of the portal
and go over the property.
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BRANDON:
The Sherman family
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bought the property
in the early '90s.
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It was their dream to really
farm and ranch on the property
284
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and-and really raise
prized cattle.
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The Shermans quickly found out,
unfortunately,
286
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that, uh, they were not alone.
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The Sherman family reported
all sorts of strangeness.
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Anything from experiences
with giant wolf-type creatures
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to their prized cattle
showing up mutilated.
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They unfortunately
got chased off of this ground
291
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by the paranormal activity
292
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shortly after they took
possession of the ranch.
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When Ryan said
the Shermans actually believed
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they saw portals open
on the ranch
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and strange illuminated objects
suddenly appear,
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that immediately made me think
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of what Kaleb and I saw
the other night.
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Now, it wasn't a triangle,
299
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but it was definitely an oddly
shaped, illuminated phenomenon
300
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that I have
no scientific explanation for.
301
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I can't say for sure
that there's a connection
302
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between what this rock art
is meant to convey
303
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and what we saw the other night,
304
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but it does mean we have to keep
investigating and figure it out.
305
00:14:45,333 --> 00:14:48,033
I wonder if there's a way
to date these things.
306
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It could have been
10,000 years ago,
307
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could have been 400 years ago.
308
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But somebody drew that on there.
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ERIK:
That suggests to me
we should get
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a glyph expert out here
to have a look at this.
311
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Yeah. Yeah, you don't need
a physicist up here
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telling you how they did this.
You need a...
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you-you need an archaeologist
or whoever does
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glyphs for a living. Uh...
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Ryan, this is cool, dude.
I appreciate it.
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-So...
-It's enlightening to me, so...
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-BRYANT: I agree.
Let's get out of here.
-Let's go.
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♪ ♪
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-Morning, guys.
-Hello, hello.
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This is Dr. Dean Taylor.
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TRAVIS: While we were arranging
for a petroglyph expert
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to come out to the ranch
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to examine the rock art
on the mesa,
324
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Thomas headed up
an important investigation
325
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related to one
of the most bizarre things
326
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we encountered last year.
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Thomas Winterton.
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We decided to call in
a veterinarian
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with the Utah
Department of Agriculture,
330
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uh, Dr. Dean Taylor.
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Last summer,
we had a cow that died
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from rapid-onset,
stress-induced pneumonia.
333
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TRAVIS:
What in the world?
334
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There's no cat tracks.
There's no...
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s-sign of struggle.
336
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-KANDUS: Middle of the day.
-It's just dead.
337
00:15:58,100 --> 00:16:01,000
-(flies buzzing)
-It's hard to kill a cow.
338
00:16:01,133 --> 00:16:03,073
-THOMAS: Look at this.
Feel-feel my phone.
-BRYANT: Look at this.
339
00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,700
It's going vibrate to mute,
vibrate to mute like crazy.
340
00:16:05,834 --> 00:16:07,434
Holy crap.
341
00:16:07,567 --> 00:16:09,397
Given the history
of reported cattle mutilations
342
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on Skinwalker Ranch,
343
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,870
we were all put on edge
when this otherwise normal cow
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just dropped dead.
345
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And as soon as we started
to investigate it,
346
00:16:18,133 --> 00:16:20,273
Thomas Winterton's phone
started glitching
347
00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:21,500
like it was being hacked.
348
00:16:21,633 --> 00:16:23,503
-The meter's going nuts.
-Over there.
349
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TRAVIS:
And out of nowhere,
350
00:16:25,033 --> 00:16:26,573
we started getting
meter readings
351
00:16:26,700 --> 00:16:30,270
for really high levels
of radiation all around us.
352
00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,900
13, 14. We're at 15. 16.
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THOMAS:
The day after the cow died
last year,
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we were reviewing some
of the footage
355
00:16:36,567 --> 00:16:38,897
and we noticed
this object up in the sky.
356
00:16:39,033 --> 00:16:40,773
ERIK:
The cow is right here.
357
00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:43,370
I can't help but also notice
that there's...
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something happening here.
359
00:16:46,233 --> 00:16:48,273
-TRAVIS: Yo. Whoa. Look at that.
-Yeah, there it is. Right there.
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BRANDON:
The cow reacted
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the moment
that that object appeared.
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00:16:52,533 --> 00:16:53,833
THOMAS:
I was sitting here
this whole time
363
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just thinking it was a bird.
364
00:16:55,333 --> 00:16:57,203
But you watch that real-time--
I mean, that's fast.
365
00:16:57,333 --> 00:16:58,873
Yeah, there's no bird
moving that fast.
366
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Not at a thousand feet
per second.
367
00:17:00,533 --> 00:17:02,173
I have no idea what that is.
368
00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:03,730
Cows die.
369
00:17:03,867 --> 00:17:05,967
-It's part of ranching,
unfortunately.
-Right.
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But the predators come in
371
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and scavenge it
almost immediately.
372
00:17:10,133 --> 00:17:13,833
And we have this particular cow
that died last year.
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-Okay.
-Uh, but the strange thing is
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we took the cow out
to a remote part of the property
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and, uh, it sat there untouched
for almost a year.
376
00:17:23,133 --> 00:17:24,773
Okay. Yeah, that is unusual.
377
00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:27,070
-KALEB: Mm-hmm.
-'Cause there should be coyotes
and...
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KALEB: We've got a lot
of different predators out here
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-that...
-Should clean that up.
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00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:32,970
-Yeah.
-THOMAS: Well,
I'll tell you what,
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I'll have you jump
in this red UTV
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-and, uh, we'll head out.
-DEAN: Okay.
383
00:17:36,734 --> 00:17:38,204
-All right. Sounds good.
-All right.
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THOMAS:
There's something there
in this cow
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that's making it undesirable.
386
00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,470
And, uh, the birds
haven't touched it.
387
00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,100
The predators
haven't touched it.
388
00:17:47,233 --> 00:17:50,173
So, hopefully,
with Dr. Taylor coming out,
389
00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:52,730
we'll be able to get
to the bottom of it.
390
00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,730
We try to find a remote place
that's out of the way, and...
391
00:17:57,867 --> 00:18:00,867
and then the predators usually
come in and take care of it.
392
00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:02,970
But, uh, in this case,
393
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as you can see, the predators
haven't done their job.
394
00:18:05,934 --> 00:18:07,274
No, they haven't touched it.
395
00:18:08,333 --> 00:18:10,303
Yeah, that is unusual.
396
00:18:13,967 --> 00:18:15,327
You can see
that nothing's been pulling
397
00:18:15,467 --> 00:18:17,027
at that.
You'd see teeth marks.
398
00:18:17,166 --> 00:18:20,066
There's something about
that carcass that I don't like.
399
00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,700
Snakes represents
two different worlds.
400
00:18:22,834 --> 00:18:24,804
So it's a guardian
to the portals.
401
00:18:24,934 --> 00:18:27,504
The portal is a window
into the supernatural.
402
00:18:32,066 --> 00:18:33,696
haven't done their job.
THOMs
403
00:18:33,834 --> 00:18:35,734
DEAN:
No, they haven't touched it.
404
00:18:35,867 --> 00:18:38,167
You can see that nothing's
been pulling at that.
405
00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:39,600
You'd see teeth marks.
406
00:18:39,734 --> 00:18:40,874
Yeah.
407
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,700
Because this cow
hasn't been touched for a year,
408
00:18:42,834 --> 00:18:45,434
we decided to call in
Dr. Dean Taylor.
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00:18:45,567 --> 00:18:46,897
So, hopefully, we'll be able
410
00:18:47,033 --> 00:18:49,773
to get to the bottom
and identify why it is
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that-that, uh, these predators
haven't wanted to eat this cow.
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DEAN: Even if there's still
quite a bit of the carcass left,
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00:18:56,367 --> 00:18:58,967
you'll still find
loose rib bones.
414
00:19:00,100 --> 00:19:03,900
But the bones are laying
right where you dropped them.
415
00:19:04,033 --> 00:19:06,733
Had the predators
just come in and-and did
416
00:19:06,867 --> 00:19:08,727
what they usually do,
which is pick it over clean
417
00:19:08,867 --> 00:19:10,897
-and, within a week, you can't
tell that she was here, right?
-Right.
418
00:19:11,033 --> 00:19:12,633
-And scatter the bones all over.
-Had they done that,
419
00:19:12,767 --> 00:19:14,497
then it would have been
case closed.
420
00:19:15,567 --> 00:19:17,727
But nothing touched her.
421
00:19:17,867 --> 00:19:19,727
KALEB:
She-she was perfect...
422
00:19:19,867 --> 00:19:22,397
perfectly fine,
as-as far as we knew,
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00:19:22,533 --> 00:19:23,733
-up to that point.
-DEAN: Okay.
424
00:19:23,867 --> 00:19:26,397
Did any other cows
get sick after?
425
00:19:26,533 --> 00:19:28,933
-No.
-No. In fact, they were all
at the other end of the field.
426
00:19:30,734 --> 00:19:32,674
Ignition.
427
00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,430
Last year, shortly before
428
00:19:34,567 --> 00:19:36,897
this cow dropped dead
near the command center,
429
00:19:37,033 --> 00:19:38,303
we were launching rockets,
430
00:19:38,433 --> 00:19:40,903
attempting to measure
some electromagnetic anomalies
431
00:19:41,033 --> 00:19:43,173
we detected
high above the ranch.
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00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:44,670
SEGALA:
Look at the cows.
433
00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:46,770
-BRYANT: Never seen that before.
-(mooing)
434
00:19:46,900 --> 00:19:49,830
TRAVIS:
Suddenly, the cows
all began bunching up.
435
00:19:49,967 --> 00:19:51,597
Clearly, they were spooked.
436
00:19:51,734 --> 00:19:54,004
And then something
even stranger happened.
437
00:19:54,133 --> 00:19:55,773
-Look, look, look, look!
-What is that?
438
00:19:55,900 --> 00:19:57,930
TRAVIS:
We saw two different
unidentified objects
439
00:19:58,066 --> 00:19:59,396
suddenly appear over the ranch.
440
00:19:59,533 --> 00:20:01,933
They made
incredible aerodynamic moves
441
00:20:02,066 --> 00:20:04,766
and then they just disappeared.
442
00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:05,800
It's gone.
443
00:20:05,934 --> 00:20:07,574
TRAVIS:
Not long after,
444
00:20:07,700 --> 00:20:09,730
this cow died
right in the same area
445
00:20:09,867 --> 00:20:11,327
and at the same time
446
00:20:11,467 --> 00:20:14,927
as another UFO appeared
right above it in the sky.
447
00:20:15,066 --> 00:20:17,926
So now that nothing
has touched this carcass since,
448
00:20:18,066 --> 00:20:21,266
I'm wondering if all these
events are related in some way,
449
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,700
including what we saw
the other night.
450
00:20:24,767 --> 00:20:26,627
DEAN:
The thing
that doesn't really fit
451
00:20:26,767 --> 00:20:27,627
is the sudden death.
452
00:20:27,767 --> 00:20:29,097
There's not...
453
00:20:29,233 --> 00:20:31,603
that many things that
would cause that cow to be good
454
00:20:31,734 --> 00:20:35,234
in the morning
and dead in the afternoon.
455
00:20:35,367 --> 00:20:38,167
Even if it was
a rapid death from pneumonia,
456
00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:42,330
I would expect that cow
to be standing off, uh,
457
00:20:42,467 --> 00:20:45,227
open-mouth breathing,
uh, coughing.
458
00:20:45,367 --> 00:20:46,827
With pneumonia, usually,
you're gonna have
459
00:20:46,967 --> 00:20:49,597
a pretty clear indication
that that's the case.
460
00:20:49,734 --> 00:20:51,574
TOM:
Now, what about specifically
461
00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:53,470
a cow that doesn't...
462
00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,070
you know, decompose right or...?
463
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,500
Never seen one of those.
464
00:20:58,934 --> 00:21:01,004
-I'll be honest.
-KANDUS: So, the effect
of an acute pneumonia
465
00:21:01,133 --> 00:21:02,973
-wouldn't be the reason...
-No.
466
00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:06,300
-something wouldn't eat
this cow.
-No.
467
00:21:06,433 --> 00:21:09,973
In fact, predators
probably would seek them out.
468
00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:12,900
-Yeah.
-And-and that was
another one of 'em, was--
469
00:21:13,033 --> 00:21:15,933
-that I noticed--
was no insects.
-Yeah.
470
00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:19,230
DEAN:
There's something
about that carcass
471
00:21:19,367 --> 00:21:21,127
that I don't like.
472
00:21:21,266 --> 00:21:23,196
All of the entrails, uh,
473
00:21:23,333 --> 00:21:25,373
are still with--
inside the body cavity,
474
00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:28,370
and I don't know
what would cause animals
475
00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:31,030
not to touch this cow
in a year's time.
476
00:21:31,166 --> 00:21:33,626
I think I'd like to take
a sample of that hind leg
477
00:21:33,767 --> 00:21:35,697
-right there,
where it's-it's still got
-THOMAS: Okay.
478
00:21:35,834 --> 00:21:37,904
some covering around it
with the skin.
479
00:21:38,033 --> 00:21:40,233
Looking at this animal,
there isn't
480
00:21:40,367 --> 00:21:43,827
really anything that is gonna
say, "This animal died of this."
481
00:21:43,967 --> 00:21:47,667
So, we're gonna sample
what we have available.
482
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,700
-I'm all right there, Doctor?
-Yeah. That'll be perfect.
483
00:21:50,834 --> 00:21:53,004
DEAN:
So, hopefully,
with the lab diagnostics,
484
00:21:53,133 --> 00:21:54,373
we can find something up there
485
00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,730
to send us down a path
at least.
486
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,730
TOM:
Thanks, Dr. Taylor.
487
00:22:08,333 --> 00:22:09,373
-Is this him here?
-Yup.
-Yeah.
488
00:22:09,500 --> 00:22:11,370
-ERIK: Alan.
-Hey.
489
00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:13,430
-Erik, how are you?
-Doing great. How are you?
490
00:22:13,567 --> 00:22:15,027
-Good.
-Welcome to the ranch.
491
00:22:15,166 --> 00:22:17,126
-Hey. Travis Taylor.
-Travis.
492
00:22:17,266 --> 00:22:19,096
TRAVIS: Erik has invited
Dr. Alan Garfinkel
493
00:22:19,233 --> 00:22:21,773
to come out to the ranch
to examine the petroglyph
494
00:22:21,900 --> 00:22:23,970
that Ryan Skinner showed us
495
00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:26,730
on the side of the mesa
a couple of days ago.
496
00:22:26,867 --> 00:22:29,367
Now, we're all hoping
that he can shed some light
497
00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:33,070
on whether or not these carved
images might be important clues
498
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:36,270
about the phenomena that we've
recently experienced out here.
499
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,470
So, you guys know Alan is
an archeologist, anthropologist,
500
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,070
and a petroglyphs expert.
501
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,700
And so we're going
to go out and take a look
502
00:22:43,834 --> 00:22:45,574
at some of the things
we have on the ranch
503
00:22:45,700 --> 00:22:47,730
-not far from where we stand.
-Honored. Love to see them.
504
00:22:47,867 --> 00:22:50,797
I've been working
in the field of ethnography
505
00:22:50,934 --> 00:22:53,704
and rock art studies
for 40 years.
506
00:22:53,834 --> 00:22:57,474
My efforts and expertise
are on the desert west,
507
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,200
specifically the Great Basin,
508
00:23:00,333 --> 00:23:03,273
and about the indigenous people
of the Great Basin.
509
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,330
Well, let's show him
some adventure, Erik.
510
00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:06,597
Let's see some adventure.
511
00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:12,670
ALAN:
I knew there was a lot
512
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,370
of supernatural activities
513
00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:18,670
that have been identified
here at the ranch.
514
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:22,600
And I also understand that part
of my responsibilities are
515
00:23:22,734 --> 00:23:25,674
to see how that rock art
and see how these images
516
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,330
and those features might have
interfingered with this
517
00:23:29,467 --> 00:23:32,597
paranormal
or supernatural realm.
518
00:23:32,734 --> 00:23:34,834
So, this is it?
519
00:23:34,967 --> 00:23:37,697
-KANDUS: Yup. Here we are.
-ALAN: Okay.
520
00:23:38,767 --> 00:23:40,927
ALAN:
Well, look at this place.
521
00:23:41,066 --> 00:23:42,926
We're kind of in an amphitheater
here, aren't we?
522
00:23:43,066 --> 00:23:44,096
Check this out.
523
00:23:44,233 --> 00:23:46,873
(clap echoing)
524
00:23:47,934 --> 00:23:49,774
-You hear that echo?
-Yeah. Sure.
525
00:23:49,900 --> 00:23:52,500
Yeah. That's one of the reasons
that, uh, this area
526
00:23:52,633 --> 00:23:58,273
might have been chosen to have
rock art-- because it echoes.
527
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,770
When I approached the location,
I immediately noticed
528
00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:03,230
that it was an echo-phonic area.
529
00:24:03,367 --> 00:24:05,227
The echoes would
come back to me.
530
00:24:05,367 --> 00:24:08,097
Native people look
at that and say, "Ah-ha.
531
00:24:08,233 --> 00:24:12,433
Here is an area of magic,
of power, of the supernatural."
532
00:24:12,567 --> 00:24:14,427
-Hmm.
-It's part of the
archeo-acoustics,
533
00:24:14,567 --> 00:24:16,527
-or acoustic archeology.
-I see.
534
00:24:16,667 --> 00:24:20,397
And the stones are talking,
535
00:24:20,533 --> 00:24:23,203
so it's communicating with us.
536
00:24:23,333 --> 00:24:26,603
TRAVIS:
It's really interesting to me
how Dr. Garfinkel made
537
00:24:26,734 --> 00:24:29,774
the observation
that this particular location
538
00:24:29,900 --> 00:24:32,530
may have been chosen
because of the acoustics.
539
00:24:32,667 --> 00:24:35,227
But the real question is,
could it have been chosen
540
00:24:35,367 --> 00:24:36,827
for something more than that?
541
00:24:36,967 --> 00:24:39,527
We all have our opinion
about what that is,
542
00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:41,427
what it means
and what it tells.
543
00:24:41,567 --> 00:24:44,697
We'd love to hear what your take
on it is without us tainting it.
544
00:24:44,834 --> 00:24:47,704
-Great. Can we wander?
-TOM: Absolutely.
545
00:24:54,133 --> 00:24:56,033
Interesting. Wow.
546
00:24:56,166 --> 00:24:58,166
Little bit of eye candy, huh?
547
00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,830
So, what I'm looking at
is these curves.
548
00:25:01,967 --> 00:25:03,497
This is part of this
"desert varnish"
549
00:25:03,633 --> 00:25:05,903
as it's called,
this blackened surface,
550
00:25:06,033 --> 00:25:08,933
and it's-it's formed from water,
551
00:25:09,066 --> 00:25:11,996
wind, air, sun,
552
00:25:12,133 --> 00:25:14,673
and it gets darker
and darker and darker.
553
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,300
TRAVIS:
Then what do they use
554
00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:17,733
to remove it? What is the...
555
00:25:17,867 --> 00:25:19,427
-Is it an acid, or they rub it?
-No.
556
00:25:19,567 --> 00:25:21,927
They usually have
a quartz hammer stone.
557
00:25:22,066 --> 00:25:23,426
TRAVIS:
Ah, okay.
558
00:25:23,567 --> 00:25:25,627
Now can you see pecking
happening here?
559
00:25:25,767 --> 00:25:27,897
Yes. You can see if you look
very, very closely.
560
00:25:28,033 --> 00:25:29,473
You can see that
this has been pecked
561
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,330
and incised into the rock.
562
00:25:32,467 --> 00:25:35,667
But what I'm looking at
is these curves.
563
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,270
It's a metaphor
for a serpent or a snake.
564
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,630
For the Euto-Aztek people,
565
00:25:40,767 --> 00:25:43,067
hailing from the Aztecs,
etcetera,
566
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,800
we're talking about an animal
567
00:25:44,934 --> 00:25:48,574
that is a metaphor or a symbol
568
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:50,130
of life and death.
569
00:25:50,266 --> 00:25:52,496
Snakes represents
two different worlds,
570
00:25:52,633 --> 00:25:54,833
so it's a guardian
to the portals.
571
00:25:54,967 --> 00:25:58,267
The portal is a window
into the supernatural.
572
00:26:03,033 --> 00:26:06,573
He just took it upon himself
to investigate these sightings.
573
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,230
-There's something to this.
-JANILEE: The eyes,
574
00:26:10,367 --> 00:26:12,127
the back end of the cow were
575
00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:14,696
-cut out.
-You witnessed this
with your own eyes?
576
00:26:14,834 --> 00:26:16,574
Yeah, right here at the ranch.
577
00:26:21,066 --> 00:26:24,326
into the supernatural.
w
578
00:26:24,467 --> 00:26:27,027
That right there is-is, uh...
is very interesting,
579
00:26:27,166 --> 00:26:29,866
and I don't know if you'd say
important to our investigation,
580
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,870
but there is a lot
of mythos and legend
581
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,300
about portals opening up around
here for hundreds of years.
582
00:26:37,433 --> 00:26:38,873
I mean, that's exactly
what this is saying.
583
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,500
Native people would
produce images like this,
584
00:26:44,633 --> 00:26:46,303
and they would mirror
their cosmology.
585
00:26:46,433 --> 00:26:48,203
They'd mirror their worldview.
586
00:26:48,333 --> 00:26:52,333
And so, if they have
a belief about a portal,
587
00:26:52,467 --> 00:26:55,827
if they have a belief about
the heavens and the Earth,
588
00:26:55,967 --> 00:27:00,397
this could be memorialized
in the rock drawing.
589
00:27:00,533 --> 00:27:02,773
TRAVIS:
If this glyph really
is a depiction
590
00:27:02,900 --> 00:27:06,330
of a portal that was carved by
native people a long time ago,
591
00:27:06,467 --> 00:27:08,997
my questions are,
why did they believe that?
592
00:27:09,133 --> 00:27:11,033
And could it not only
help get us closer
593
00:27:11,166 --> 00:27:13,366
to an explanation of what
we're dealing with,
594
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:15,500
but could it also
explain the things
595
00:27:15,633 --> 00:27:17,273
that have frightened people
off this ranch
596
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:18,870
for more than a century?
597
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,600
The natural feature of the rock
598
00:27:20,734 --> 00:27:22,834
is almost the same shape
as the mesa,
599
00:27:22,967 --> 00:27:25,927
and I have hypothesized
600
00:27:26,066 --> 00:27:29,726
that these are star patterns,
rising or setting
601
00:27:29,867 --> 00:27:33,067
or what have you, at certain
times of the year over the mesa.
602
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,730
Right, there is a thing
called "asterisms,"
603
00:27:35,867 --> 00:27:38,327
and so, within the rock art,
604
00:27:38,467 --> 00:27:41,397
within the petroglyphs,
they depict
605
00:27:41,533 --> 00:27:44,533
the celestial bodies
and the horizon.
606
00:27:44,667 --> 00:27:47,597
And so, very commonly,
607
00:27:47,734 --> 00:27:49,574
there are certain star patterns
608
00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:53,000
and certain stars
that would be very significant.
609
00:27:53,133 --> 00:27:55,703
What it actually does align
with, and I have looked at it...
610
00:27:55,834 --> 00:27:58,334
-Yeah. Of course.
-And you know,
I am an astronomer.
611
00:27:58,467 --> 00:28:00,767
-And, uh, this snake pattern
at the top...
-Yes.
612
00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,070
-...looks just like
the constellation Draco...
-Okay.
613
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,670
-...which is a dragon
or a serpent.
-There you go.
614
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,230
BRYANT:
There are a lot of strange
615
00:28:09,367 --> 00:28:11,327
and interesting things happening
on this ranch.
616
00:28:11,467 --> 00:28:14,467
But seeing this pictograph
or this petroglyph, and
617
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,330
given all the stories and the
history of what have been called
618
00:28:17,467 --> 00:28:19,497
"portals" opening up here
at Skinwalker Ranch,
619
00:28:19,633 --> 00:28:22,403
it really has us all
taking a step back
620
00:28:22,533 --> 00:28:24,673
and wondering what in the heck
really was going on
621
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,500
way back when on this property.
622
00:28:26,633 --> 00:28:29,173
You know, this gives us a lot
of things to think about.
623
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:32,130
We really appreciate you
coming out and talking with us.
624
00:28:32,266 --> 00:28:33,496
ALAN:
Thank you so much.
625
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,600
TRAVIS:
Hey, there's Jim.
626
00:28:40,767 --> 00:28:42,427
He's got somebody with him.
627
00:28:42,567 --> 00:28:44,627
-JIM: Hey, guys. How you doing?
-Hey, Jim.
628
00:28:44,767 --> 00:28:47,427
I've got the lovely
Hicks family here.
629
00:28:47,567 --> 00:28:49,127
Oh, hey.
630
00:28:49,266 --> 00:28:51,566
While we await the lab results
that will hopefully help explain
631
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:54,300
why the cow carcass
on the ranch has gone untouched
632
00:28:54,433 --> 00:28:56,433
by predators for nearly a year,
633
00:28:56,567 --> 00:28:58,067
Jim Morse has brought the family
634
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,670
of Junior Hicks out
to meet with us.
635
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,830
I would love for you
to come on over and chat
636
00:29:01,967 --> 00:29:03,467
-and get better acquainted.
-BRYANT: Okay.
637
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,530
-Yeah, I'd love to.
Go to the headquarters?
-Yes, sir.
638
00:29:05,667 --> 00:29:07,397
All right, we'll see you there
in just a second.
639
00:29:07,533 --> 00:29:08,903
Thank you so much.
Appreciate it.
640
00:29:09,033 --> 00:29:10,233
Great. Good to see you.
641
00:29:10,367 --> 00:29:12,327
Sadly, Junior recently
passed away,
642
00:29:12,467 --> 00:29:15,997
but he was the preeminent
researcher of UFO phenomena
643
00:29:16,133 --> 00:29:18,673
and cattle mutilations
right here in the Uinta Basin
644
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,730
for more than 60 years.
645
00:29:20,867 --> 00:29:23,467
And it's our hope
that Mr. Hicks' research
646
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,070
might help us going
forward as we continue
647
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,300
to investigate
the same phenomena.
648
00:29:28,433 --> 00:29:30,333
THOMAS:
Junior Hicks was
a science teacher here
649
00:29:30,467 --> 00:29:33,967
at one of the local schools
and took it upon himself
650
00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:36,900
to start documenting all
of these UFO sightings.
651
00:29:37,033 --> 00:29:38,873
Anytime there was any reports,
652
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,500
Junior would drive out there,
interview 'em,
653
00:29:41,633 --> 00:29:44,473
collect any evidence
that was left behind.
654
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,900
BRANDON: Shortly after
purchasing the property,
655
00:29:47,033 --> 00:29:49,703
I had the opportunity
to meet with Junior Hicks.
656
00:29:49,834 --> 00:29:52,874
One thing that really
piqued my interest was
657
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,570
that Junior had
experienced events
658
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:59,000
on the ranch predating not only
the Bigelow investigation,
659
00:29:59,133 --> 00:30:02,003
but also the Shermans.
660
00:30:02,133 --> 00:30:03,703
TOM:
Welcome to Skinwalker Ranch.
661
00:30:03,834 --> 00:30:05,134
-Hi there.
-Good to see you. Thank you.
662
00:30:05,266 --> 00:30:06,366
BRYANT:
Come on up and have a seat.
663
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,030
We loved,
664
00:30:09,166 --> 00:30:11,996
you know, your father
and grandfather so much, and so,
665
00:30:12,133 --> 00:30:14,003
we're excited
to have you guys here, too.
666
00:30:14,133 --> 00:30:16,803
Sounds amazing. I hate
that I never got to meet him.
667
00:30:16,934 --> 00:30:19,674
He loved the area, and he was
in... fascinated by the geology
668
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,170
and the terrain, and he just
took it upon himself
669
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,700
to, uh, investigate these...
the sightings that people had.
670
00:30:25,834 --> 00:30:27,334
And there began to be a lot
in the mid-1960s,
671
00:30:27,467 --> 00:30:29,667
and so, over the years,
672
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,900
he just kept a file
of, uh, these sightings.
673
00:30:33,033 --> 00:30:35,233
TRAVIS:
Well, I noticed that y'all
brought a box of stuff.
674
00:30:35,367 --> 00:30:37,227
I was curious of what you
might have brought to show us.
675
00:30:37,367 --> 00:30:39,127
-WARD: Sure.
-McKAYLEE: You want
to look at it?
676
00:30:39,266 --> 00:30:40,466
Something kind of interesting.
677
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,230
Jim-- he asked me
to bring documents
678
00:30:43,367 --> 00:30:46,227
to be able to show to the team.
679
00:30:46,367 --> 00:30:48,797
There were a lot of things
that I thought were fascinating,
680
00:30:48,934 --> 00:30:54,004
but this one I thought really
gave a very broad perspective of
681
00:30:54,133 --> 00:30:56,333
all the data that had
ever been recorded
682
00:30:56,467 --> 00:31:00,227
that my grandpa had researched,
all in that small folder.
683
00:31:00,367 --> 00:31:03,027
TRAVIS:
Yeah, he's even done
some statistical analysis on
684
00:31:03,166 --> 00:31:06,866
all the things that people
have said they'd seen,
685
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:13,100
where they are,
how big they are, time of day.
686
00:31:13,233 --> 00:31:14,433
WARD:
I mean, he just... he wanted
687
00:31:14,567 --> 00:31:15,927
to look at it
from a-a scientific approach.
688
00:31:16,066 --> 00:31:17,296
TRAVIS:
You know, I don't think
689
00:31:17,433 --> 00:31:19,933
anybody's ever shown data
like that before.
690
00:31:20,066 --> 00:31:22,966
ERIK:
What a meticulous study
he has conducted
691
00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:24,700
for decades.
692
00:31:24,834 --> 00:31:27,474
Material I'd never seen before
that attempts to
693
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,900
find some line of reasoning
through all the data.
694
00:31:31,033 --> 00:31:34,203
This doesn't exist anywhere
in a place where researchers
695
00:31:34,333 --> 00:31:36,773
can go look at it and then
start really throwing out
696
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:38,600
the crackpot stories
versus the stories
697
00:31:38,734 --> 00:31:40,934
that, hey,
there's something to this.
698
00:31:41,066 --> 00:31:42,696
This is impressive.
699
00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:44,704
TOM:
So, maybe we should
take all this data
700
00:31:44,834 --> 00:31:46,904
that Junior has done so well
701
00:31:47,033 --> 00:31:48,103
and put it
in an actual database,
702
00:31:48,233 --> 00:31:50,573
and we'll be able to pull
703
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:52,030
and see things
in different ways that,
704
00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:54,626
you know, maybe
we don't even expect.
705
00:31:54,767 --> 00:31:56,367
BRYANT:
Well, let me ask you this.
706
00:31:56,500 --> 00:31:59,030
Did any of you get
the opportunity to go with him
707
00:31:59,166 --> 00:32:02,696
and-and meet with individuals
or hear any of it firsthand?
708
00:32:02,834 --> 00:32:07,504
Uh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, we-we...
He-he brought us,
709
00:32:07,633 --> 00:32:09,533
and he brought a compass
with him, and he says,
710
00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:11,167
"Hey, look at this, watch this."
711
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:14,430
And we would watch the compass,
and it would just go wonky.
712
00:32:14,567 --> 00:32:16,697
It was just...
713
00:32:16,834 --> 00:32:18,274
Nothing made sense on it.
714
00:32:19,767 --> 00:32:21,197
You're saying it was
right here on the property?
715
00:32:21,333 --> 00:32:23,433
Yeah, yeah, right here,
here in... at the ranch.
716
00:32:23,567 --> 00:32:25,797
-That's important.
-And we looked
at a cattle mutilation.
717
00:32:29,967 --> 00:32:32,967
What was missing
or-or done to the cow?
718
00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:34,800
-It was not an animal.
-Not a predator?
719
00:32:34,934 --> 00:32:37,534
-No.
-And you witnessed this
with your own eyes?
720
00:32:37,667 --> 00:32:39,427
-Yeah.
-MCKAYLEE: I'm not exactly sure
721
00:32:39,567 --> 00:32:42,267
necessarily the origin
of this photo.
722
00:32:49,700 --> 00:32:51,700
BRYANT:
Well, let me ask you this.
723
00:32:51,834 --> 00:32:53,674
Did any of you get
the opportunity
724
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,030
to go with him
and-and meet with individuals
725
00:32:56,166 --> 00:32:58,166
or hear any of it firsthand?
726
00:32:58,300 --> 00:32:59,630
Uh, yeah.
727
00:32:59,767 --> 00:33:03,297
Yeah. We looked
at a cattle mutilation.
728
00:33:03,433 --> 00:33:05,303
TRAVIS:
We're meeting with the family
729
00:33:05,433 --> 00:33:06,903
of the late UFO researcher
Junior Hicks,
730
00:33:07,033 --> 00:33:09,903
who spent more than 60 years
731
00:33:10,033 --> 00:33:12,903
documenting bizarre phenomena
in the Uinta Basin.
732
00:33:13,033 --> 00:33:15,703
But what we didn't know was
that members of his family
733
00:33:15,834 --> 00:33:19,604
had their own experiences
right here on Skinwalker Ranch.
734
00:33:19,734 --> 00:33:21,574
TRAVIS: Without getting
too graphic about it,
735
00:33:21,700 --> 00:33:22,530
I mean, what... what was missing
736
00:33:22,667 --> 00:33:25,597
or-or done to the cow?
737
00:33:25,734 --> 00:33:29,434
Uh, the eyes
were-were kind of cut out,
738
00:33:29,567 --> 00:33:32,197
and the back end of the cow
739
00:33:32,333 --> 00:33:34,303
was very, I mean, very precise.
740
00:33:34,433 --> 00:33:36,803
-It was not an animal.
-ERIK: Not a predator?
741
00:33:36,934 --> 00:33:39,204
No, no, not-not anything
that we would know,
742
00:33:39,333 --> 00:33:41,133
like a wolf or a dog
or anything.
743
00:33:41,266 --> 00:33:42,596
You know what I'm saying?
Nothing natural.
744
00:33:42,734 --> 00:33:43,974
And you witnessed this
with your own eyes?
745
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:45,530
-Yeah.
-That's amazing.
746
00:33:45,667 --> 00:33:48,067
TRAVIS:
Although there have been
cattle mutilations
747
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,370
going back through history
for hundreds of years,
748
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:53,270
it wasn't until
around the 1970s
749
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:55,730
when enough of them
were occurring
750
00:33:55,867 --> 00:33:57,767
that some people
in the scientific community
751
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:00,070
had to start taking it
seriously.
752
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,000
In almost all of these
cattle mutilation cases,
753
00:34:05,133 --> 00:34:07,033
they find no blood,
754
00:34:07,166 --> 00:34:10,426
and the cows have been mutilated
in a way
755
00:34:10,567 --> 00:34:13,197
like it was done
with surgical precision
756
00:34:13,333 --> 00:34:15,803
and surgical instruments
instead of what you would think
757
00:34:15,934 --> 00:34:17,774
a predator would do,
758
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:20,730
like a large cat
that might tear it apart.
759
00:34:22,967 --> 00:34:24,797
ERIK: Well, everything
we've discussed so far
760
00:34:24,934 --> 00:34:26,504
has only piqued my interest
761
00:34:26,633 --> 00:34:28,803
in what else is
inside of that box.
762
00:34:30,066 --> 00:34:32,796
MCKAYLEE: So, I'm not exactly
sure necessarily
763
00:34:32,934 --> 00:34:36,874
the origin of this photo,
but I do know that this is
764
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,500
something connected
to the ranch.
765
00:34:38,633 --> 00:34:40,203
-I think I recognize this photo.
-Yeah.
766
00:34:40,333 --> 00:34:41,873
He's brought that out before
and showed us.
767
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,830
These were rods
768
00:34:45,967 --> 00:34:48,767
that the Bigelow team found
out here in this field.
769
00:34:48,900 --> 00:34:50,930
Uh, he actually had
the opportunity, though,
770
00:34:51,066 --> 00:34:53,366
to take and try to identify...
771
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,600
He tells the story
of trying to cut it.
772
00:34:55,734 --> 00:34:58,874
They weren't able to cut them,
they weren't able to melt them,
773
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,700
and Mr. Bigelow ended up
taking them, and then...
774
00:35:01,834 --> 00:35:03,704
Junior said that he followed up
with Mr. Bigelow,
775
00:35:03,834 --> 00:35:06,374
and Mr. Bigelow said,
"Oh, they're nothing,"
776
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:08,170
and he said,
"Well, can we have them back?"
777
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:10,630
You know, "No."
778
00:35:11,834 --> 00:35:15,234
TRAVIS:
In 1996, the Shermans sold
Skinwalker Ranch
779
00:35:15,367 --> 00:35:18,497
to billionaire aerospace
entrepreneur Robert Bigelow.
780
00:35:18,633 --> 00:35:21,033
He then assembled
a team of scientists
781
00:35:21,166 --> 00:35:24,526
who spent the next two decades
studying and investigating it
782
00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:27,497
as the National Institute
for Discovery Science,
783
00:35:27,633 --> 00:35:28,903
or NIDS.
784
00:35:29,033 --> 00:35:31,533
Bigelow even received
financial support
785
00:35:31,667 --> 00:35:33,167
from the federal government.
786
00:35:33,300 --> 00:35:36,000
Much of what they found here
has been kept a secret,
787
00:35:36,133 --> 00:35:37,603
but rumors have leaked out
788
00:35:37,734 --> 00:35:40,234
about some
pretty disturbing discoveries.
789
00:35:40,367 --> 00:35:42,367
BRANDON:
Soon after taking possession
790
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:46,400
and occupancy of the property,
Robert Bigelow's NIDS team
791
00:35:46,533 --> 00:35:47,733
actually started seeing
792
00:35:47,867 --> 00:35:49,527
everything
from cattle mutilations
793
00:35:49,667 --> 00:35:52,667
to UFOs
to portals that would open up
794
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,830
above the old homesteads.
795
00:35:54,967 --> 00:35:57,497
And those events,
I think, underscored
796
00:35:57,633 --> 00:36:00,633
how special this property was
as a center of gravity
797
00:36:00,767 --> 00:36:03,567
for paranormal activity.
798
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:06,100
THOMAS:
They found one of those bars.
799
00:36:06,233 --> 00:36:08,603
Junior told of Mr. Bigelow
having the team--
800
00:36:08,734 --> 00:36:11,504
-were they
on their hands and knees?--
-Yeah, hands and knees.
801
00:36:11,633 --> 00:36:13,273
...hands and knees, crawling
through this field here.
802
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,300
BRYANT:
And I guess
what it was explained to him
803
00:36:16,433 --> 00:36:19,933
was that they thought they
were possibly used energy cells
804
00:36:20,066 --> 00:36:22,226
that were dropped by, you know,
805
00:36:22,367 --> 00:36:23,567
some of the UFO phenomena.
806
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:25,100
Isn't that how you recall
807
00:36:25,233 --> 00:36:27,333
-the story?
-That's how he described it.
808
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:31,270
TRAVIS:
Seeing these pictures that
the Hicks family brought us
809
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,230
of these rods
actually makes me think
810
00:36:33,367 --> 00:36:36,297
of the stories that you hear
from the NIDS team
811
00:36:36,433 --> 00:36:38,173
from Bigelow Aerospace
812
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:40,570
saying that
they found metamaterials
813
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:42,300
here on the ranch.
814
00:36:42,433 --> 00:36:45,603
A metamaterial is something
that has specific properties
815
00:36:45,734 --> 00:36:49,404
that change the way light
and energy passes through it,
816
00:36:49,533 --> 00:36:52,073
different than normal material.
817
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,930
It does make you wonder.
818
00:36:54,066 --> 00:36:56,096
If Bigelow's actually got them,
819
00:36:56,233 --> 00:36:58,233
and he's got them
hidden away somewhere,
820
00:36:58,367 --> 00:37:00,567
could they really be related
to UFOs?
821
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:05,300
And will we find more of them
somewhere on the ranch?
822
00:37:05,433 --> 00:37:08,203
BRYANT:
Thank you so, so much.
823
00:37:08,333 --> 00:37:11,533
This has been an absolute
pleasure, and we're so grateful
824
00:37:11,667 --> 00:37:13,227
that you've come spend
some time with us.
825
00:37:13,367 --> 00:37:15,397
-This has been
an absolute treat.
-TRAVIS: I really appreciate it.
826
00:37:15,533 --> 00:37:16,573
Thank you very much.
827
00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:18,030
-Thank you very much.
-Yeah, thank you.
828
00:37:18,166 --> 00:37:19,896
JANILEE:
We appreciate coming out.
829
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,270
TOM:
Hello, Dr. Taylor.
830
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,230
-Can you hear us?
-Yeah, I can. Good morning.
831
00:37:34,367 --> 00:37:35,467
KANDUS:
Good morning.
832
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,730
I want you to meet
Dr. Travis, Taylor.
833
00:37:37,867 --> 00:37:40,627
-Nice to meet you, Dr. Taylor.
-You, too.
834
00:37:40,767 --> 00:37:43,467
TRAVIS: Tom and Kandus and I
are very eager to hear
835
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,970
Dr. Dean Taylor's analysis
of the tissue sample he took
836
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:48,100
from the cow carcass
here on the ranch.
837
00:37:48,233 --> 00:37:51,603
As three people who are
actually living here right now,
838
00:37:51,734 --> 00:37:54,874
day in and day out,
we're more than simply curious
839
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,700
as to any explanation
he can give us
840
00:37:57,834 --> 00:38:00,174
as to why no predators
have touched this carcass
841
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:02,130
in nearly a year.
842
00:38:02,266 --> 00:38:06,766
So, uh, I understand
you have the results of this...
843
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:11,200
-strange cow that we have on
our south end of our property.
-I do.
844
00:38:11,333 --> 00:38:13,203
With that animal being dead
that long, there's...
845
00:38:13,333 --> 00:38:15,173
there is gonna be
limited sampling.
846
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,170
So the things that became
pertinent history to me
847
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:23,130
were the fact that this animal
was untouched by predators.
848
00:38:23,266 --> 00:38:25,496
So I found that unusual.
849
00:38:25,633 --> 00:38:28,303
I had a conversation
with the lab,
850
00:38:28,433 --> 00:38:30,673
and he indicated
that certain types
851
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,800
of poisons would cause predators
852
00:38:32,934 --> 00:38:35,534
to stay away
from those carcasses.
853
00:38:35,667 --> 00:38:39,027
Luckily, those are the things
that we could test for
854
00:38:39,166 --> 00:38:43,426
with these samples, so we tested
this animal for arsenic,
855
00:38:43,567 --> 00:38:46,627
cadmium, lead and then selenium.
856
00:38:46,767 --> 00:38:49,027
So, when we ran
these samples, though,
857
00:38:49,166 --> 00:38:52,696
all of these samples,
they were negative.
858
00:38:52,834 --> 00:38:56,104
TRAVIS:
The fact that
all toxicology reports
859
00:38:56,233 --> 00:38:58,703
came back negative,
it means this cow didn't die
860
00:38:58,834 --> 00:39:02,234
for any mundane reasons,
like accidentally eating poison.
861
00:39:02,367 --> 00:39:04,167
So what killed it?
862
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:06,530
Why other animals refuse
to go near it
863
00:39:06,667 --> 00:39:08,527
still remains a big mystery.
864
00:39:08,667 --> 00:39:11,427
-This is, uh...
-So, we're into the lungs.
865
00:39:11,567 --> 00:39:13,367
Lungs and heart.
866
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:16,500
So, you're not seeing anything
that shows disease or...?
867
00:39:16,633 --> 00:39:17,833
Just the lungs.
868
00:39:17,967 --> 00:39:20,667
TRAVIS: Last year,
immediately after the cow died,
869
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,670
we had a vet perform
a necropsy on it
870
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,570
to try and determine
the cause of death.
871
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:28,370
We got a lot of consolidation
of the lungs right here.
872
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:32,870
Most of this black color is
postmortem pooling of the blood.
873
00:39:33,967 --> 00:39:35,567
It's very, very possible
874
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:37,930
that it is
stress-induced pneumonia.
875
00:39:38,066 --> 00:39:40,226
Cows, when they get stressed,
876
00:39:40,367 --> 00:39:41,797
stress will bring on pneumonia.
877
00:39:43,633 --> 00:39:46,603
You know,
we measured around the cow
878
00:39:46,734 --> 00:39:48,574
right after it died--
it had to be less than an hour
879
00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:50,270
-after it died.
-Mm-hmm.
880
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,170
High electric field measurements
881
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:54,400
and high
magnetic field measurements.
882
00:39:54,533 --> 00:39:56,603
And that's one of the things
we thought that it
883
00:39:56,734 --> 00:39:58,274
might have been
electrical exposure,
884
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,000
uh, that could have, uh,
885
00:40:00,133 --> 00:40:02,573
caused whatever, you know,
killed the cow.
886
00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:04,330
But have you ever seen
anything like that,
887
00:40:04,467 --> 00:40:05,997
or heard weird stories out here
888
00:40:06,133 --> 00:40:09,333
in the Uinta Basin where,
you know, people claim something
889
00:40:09,467 --> 00:40:12,267
rapidly killed their cows,
or anything along that order?
890
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,330
Yeah, I've heard the stories,
but I don't...
891
00:40:14,467 --> 00:40:16,527
I don't personally know, um,
892
00:40:16,667 --> 00:40:18,567
how that would affect the...
the animal.
893
00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:21,530
With the electricity,
they'd probably have, uh,
894
00:40:21,667 --> 00:40:24,227
petechia and microhemorrhages
895
00:40:24,367 --> 00:40:25,897
that you could see
throughout the body.
896
00:40:26,033 --> 00:40:29,103
I asked the lab, also,
about radiation,
897
00:40:29,233 --> 00:40:31,833
and they didn't feel like
that would chase predators off
898
00:40:31,967 --> 00:40:34,527
by doing that.
899
00:40:34,667 --> 00:40:38,667
So, I've told clients
my whole life that
900
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,530
sometimes a negative answer
is still information.
901
00:40:41,667 --> 00:40:43,567
We still have ruled out things.
902
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,430
-Yeah.
-Even though
in this particular case,
903
00:40:46,567 --> 00:40:48,927
given the length, the time
that this animal was dead,
904
00:40:49,066 --> 00:40:53,826
uh, a definitive diagnosis why
this animal died can't be given.
905
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:56,370
TOM:
Yeah, thanks, Dr. Taylor.
906
00:40:56,500 --> 00:40:59,170
We'll be in touch
if anything happens out here.
907
00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:00,600
TRAVIS:
All right, nice to meet you.
908
00:41:00,734 --> 00:41:02,634
-Thank you very much.
-Yeah, you, too.
909
00:41:02,767 --> 00:41:04,827
-Have a good day.
-KANDUS: See you later.
-All right, bye-bye.
910
00:41:04,967 --> 00:41:06,727
KANDUS:
It's still crazy that
911
00:41:06,867 --> 00:41:08,727
even this veterinary
can't really say for sure
912
00:41:08,867 --> 00:41:10,627
what he thinks killed this cow
913
00:41:10,767 --> 00:41:13,667
-or why predators
did not eat it.
-Yeah, why it's still out there
914
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,630
and nothing's touching it,
and there's,
915
00:41:15,767 --> 00:41:18,297
you know, dead deer carcasses
that have just been gone,
916
00:41:18,433 --> 00:41:20,303
like, you know,
instantly, almost.
917
00:41:20,433 --> 00:41:23,333
TOM:
Well, we got a lot
of information.
918
00:41:23,467 --> 00:41:25,167
Most of it is non-information,
919
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:27,170
but that
still tells us something.
920
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:30,130
Actually, uh,
knowing sometimes what the...
921
00:41:30,266 --> 00:41:31,796
the answer isn't
922
00:41:31,934 --> 00:41:33,834
at least helps us look
for different
923
00:41:33,967 --> 00:41:36,127
-possible answers.
-Right.
924
00:41:36,266 --> 00:41:39,596
TRAVIS:
Another mystery to figure out.
925
00:41:39,734 --> 00:41:41,974
I was really skeptical
when I heard
926
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:44,630
all the crazy, bizarre stories
that people told
927
00:41:44,767 --> 00:41:46,497
about Skinwalker Ranch.
928
00:41:46,633 --> 00:41:49,633
Now I have to admit
that I have my own.
929
00:41:49,767 --> 00:41:53,127
I can't deny what Kaleb and I
saw the other night.
930
00:41:53,266 --> 00:41:56,626
How is it connected
to what happened to that cow?
931
00:41:56,767 --> 00:41:59,227
And what does the petroglyph
have to do with it?
932
00:41:59,367 --> 00:42:03,327
Could it be a key clue that
might help reveal the truth?
933
00:42:03,467 --> 00:42:05,497
THOMAS:
You know, thing with petroglyphs
934
00:42:05,633 --> 00:42:07,473
is it's a big guess.
935
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,870
Nobody knows exactly
what story those are telling.
936
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,900
But to find that on the ranch
adds mystery to:
937
00:42:14,033 --> 00:42:16,233
who was it that put it there?
938
00:42:16,367 --> 00:42:17,827
What is it trying to tell us?
939
00:42:17,967 --> 00:42:20,067
What's the story that
they were trying to leave?
940
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,000
BRANDON:
One of the reasons
why I acquired the ranch
941
00:42:23,133 --> 00:42:25,973
in the first place
was due to the mystery,
942
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:29,370
due to, you know,
the nature of the claims
943
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:31,800
that were associated
with the property.
944
00:42:31,934 --> 00:42:33,804
I want to get some answers.
945
00:42:33,934 --> 00:42:35,804
I want to better understand
946
00:42:35,934 --> 00:42:38,334
what is causing the phenomenon
947
00:42:38,467 --> 00:42:41,727
that have not only occurred
under our watch,
948
00:42:41,867 --> 00:42:44,897
but for decades
if not millennia.
949
00:42:48,767 --> 00:42:50,697
-You got the trackers?
-Got the trackers.
950
00:42:50,834 --> 00:42:52,734
Each cow we put on the place
951
00:42:52,867 --> 00:42:54,497
becomes a biosensor.
952
00:42:54,633 --> 00:42:56,473
Animals seem to have
that sixth sense.
953
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,800
Of all these phenomena that
happened when you were here,
954
00:42:59,934 --> 00:43:02,534
-what do you think it is?
-It's a portal.
955
00:43:02,667 --> 00:43:04,227
Have you ever tried
to open up a portal?
956
00:43:04,367 --> 00:43:07,067
That I haven't done, but we're
gonna give it a shot tonight.
957
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,930
Ah, yeah!
958
00:43:09,066 --> 00:43:11,266
THOMAS:
Oh, there's a light
down in those trees.
959
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Got eyes of something over here!
Hey, hey, hey, right here!
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