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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,965 --> 00:00:09,885 [♪ creepy rhythmic pulsing] 2 00:00:09,968 --> 00:00:12,971 [♪ eerie music playing] 3 00:00:18,894 --> 00:00:21,146 [♪ horror sting] 4 00:00:21,230 --> 00:00:24,233 ♪♪ 5 00:00:27,361 --> 00:00:29,112 [speaker 1] So, very young... 6 00:00:29,196 --> 00:00:32,573 [branches rustling] 7 00:00:32,658 --> 00:00:35,077 ...I got obsessed with horror. 8 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:37,788 [chair squeaking] 9 00:00:37,871 --> 00:00:39,039 [heavy breathing] 10 00:00:39,122 --> 00:00:42,000 I just think it would be fun to survive a horror movie. 11 00:00:42,084 --> 00:00:44,044 ♪♪ 12 00:00:47,673 --> 00:00:50,259 [buzzing] 13 00:00:50,342 --> 00:00:53,345 -[light clicks] -[indistinct murmuring] 14 00:00:54,888 --> 00:00:56,181 [slice] 15 00:00:56,265 --> 00:00:58,725 But you make it to the end... 16 00:00:58,809 --> 00:00:59,893 [screaming] 17 00:00:59,977 --> 00:01:01,603 ♪♪ 18 00:01:01,687 --> 00:01:03,897 ...and the credits roll, and everyone's fine. 19 00:01:03,981 --> 00:01:05,482 [screaming] 20 00:01:05,566 --> 00:01:08,110 That's just always been, like, super appealing to me. 21 00:01:08,819 --> 00:01:12,406 I think I googled, "Survive your own scary movie," 22 00:01:13,198 --> 00:01:16,493 which is where the beginning of this started. 23 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:19,580 ♪♪ 24 00:01:20,789 --> 00:01:23,750 [speaker 2] But, every horror movie... 25 00:01:23,834 --> 00:01:25,669 [♪ horror music playing] 26 00:01:25,752 --> 00:01:27,588 [screaming] 27 00:01:27,671 --> 00:01:30,007 -[static hissing] -...has a monster. 28 00:01:32,259 --> 00:01:34,178 [♪ music fades out] 29 00:01:34,261 --> 00:01:35,679 [screaming] 30 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:37,639 Hey, everybody. It's Russ. 31 00:01:37,723 --> 00:01:38,849 [screaming] 32 00:01:38,932 --> 00:01:41,059 This is Immersive Horror, 33 00:01:41,143 --> 00:01:44,062 where you become the star of the show. 34 00:01:44,146 --> 00:01:46,106 [screaming] No! 35 00:01:46,190 --> 00:01:48,150 [speaker 2] No, Russ. Please... 36 00:01:48,233 --> 00:01:50,903 [Russ McKamey] [panting] Stay with me, honey. 37 00:01:50,986 --> 00:01:53,322 -[speaker 2 pleading] -[Russ] Hold your breath. 38 00:01:53,405 --> 00:01:56,992 On the count of three, hold your breath. One. Two. 39 00:01:57,075 --> 00:02:00,078 -[water pouring] -[echoing hyperventilating] 40 00:02:01,705 --> 00:02:04,333 -[speaker 2] Please-- -[silence] 41 00:02:04,416 --> 00:02:07,002 [speaker 3] An immersive horror experience is... 42 00:02:07,085 --> 00:02:08,587 [overlapping screaming] 43 00:02:08,670 --> 00:02:12,424 ...you are basically putting yourself inside of a horror movie. 44 00:02:12,508 --> 00:02:14,051 [indistinct screaming] 45 00:02:14,134 --> 00:02:16,762 My legs hurt, and my arms hurt, a-and my hands are freezing. 46 00:02:16,845 --> 00:02:20,224 And I can't feel them 'cause there's still shocks running through my hands. 47 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:21,767 [interviewer] You had a good time, though? 48 00:02:21,850 --> 00:02:22,935 Yes! I had a great time. 49 00:02:23,602 --> 00:02:27,397 -[people screaming] -[♪ horror music playing] 50 00:02:27,481 --> 00:02:30,234 I don't know too many people outside of my small little group 51 00:02:30,317 --> 00:02:31,693 that know about this stuff. 52 00:02:31,777 --> 00:02:35,197 [♪ creepy music playing] 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,823 It is relatively underground, 54 00:02:36,907 --> 00:02:39,284 and right now, we have the worst salesman for it 55 00:02:39,368 --> 00:02:41,954 in the history of bad salesmen. That's Russ McKamey. 56 00:02:42,037 --> 00:02:43,830 ♪♪ 57 00:02:43,914 --> 00:02:47,668 I am the owner and creator of McKamey Manor, 58 00:02:47,751 --> 00:02:51,922 the world's most extreme haunted house. 59 00:02:52,005 --> 00:02:54,341 -[♪ creepy music playing] -[inaudible screaming] 60 00:02:54,424 --> 00:02:57,511 Russ has positioned himself to be 61 00:02:57,594 --> 00:02:59,847 -the great danger. -[liquid splashes] 62 00:02:59,930 --> 00:03:03,141 You're in boot camp, you are in North Korea, 63 00:03:03,225 --> 00:03:05,394 you are in Stalinist Russia, 64 00:03:05,477 --> 00:03:08,063 and you're gonna see if you can make it out or not. 65 00:03:08,146 --> 00:03:10,190 -[person panting] -[Russ] We're showmen. 66 00:03:10,274 --> 00:03:14,152 I am the P.T. Barnum of the haunt world. 67 00:03:14,236 --> 00:03:15,779 Look at her. Look at her. 68 00:03:15,863 --> 00:03:19,449 I spent hours trying to convince her not to show up here. 69 00:03:19,533 --> 00:03:20,909 But she wouldn't listen to me. 70 00:03:20,993 --> 00:03:22,828 The show's never over with Russ. 71 00:03:22,911 --> 00:03:24,288 -[gasping] -[splashing] 72 00:03:24,371 --> 00:03:26,874 Please stop, Russ. Please, please. 73 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,751 Russ has crossed the Rubicon. 74 00:03:29,835 --> 00:03:32,421 There's no goin' back. 75 00:03:32,504 --> 00:03:35,257 I'm leaving McKamey Manor, thank God. 76 00:03:35,340 --> 00:03:37,217 Do. Not. Come. Here. 77 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,971 [projector clicking, whirring] 78 00:03:41,054 --> 00:03:43,348 [♪ eerie music playing] 79 00:03:43,432 --> 00:03:45,058 [♪ eerie crescendo] 80 00:03:47,186 --> 00:03:50,189 [wind blowing] 81 00:03:50,272 --> 00:03:53,233 [birds chirping] 82 00:03:56,236 --> 00:03:59,239 [Russ] McKamey Manor has a history of, um, cities and towns... 83 00:03:59,323 --> 00:04:02,117 -[♪ dramatic sting] -...not wanting us in their location. 84 00:04:02,201 --> 00:04:05,495 You know, we were kicked out of Illinois. We were gonna move out there. 85 00:04:05,579 --> 00:04:08,540 Um, the city saw the movies after we were there, 86 00:04:08,624 --> 00:04:10,584 basically, and freaked out. 87 00:04:10,667 --> 00:04:13,170 And they were, you know, they just went crazy, 88 00:04:13,253 --> 00:04:16,173 you know, praying in front of the building to keep us away, 89 00:04:16,256 --> 00:04:20,469 shooting out the windows, slashing tires. I mean, they really did not want us there. 90 00:04:20,552 --> 00:04:23,722 [bees buzzing loudly] 91 00:04:23,805 --> 00:04:26,808 [♪ pulsating creepy music playing] 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,022 [jet engine whining] 93 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:33,148 [muffled thud] 94 00:04:34,149 --> 00:04:35,150 [♪ dramatic sting] 95 00:04:35,984 --> 00:04:37,986 -[people clapping] -[♪ guitar playing] 96 00:04:38,070 --> 00:04:41,949 [emcee] Hey, everybody, welcome to the Captain's pizza party! It's time to party! 97 00:04:42,032 --> 00:04:45,536 ♪ I really, really, really, really, really, really, really like girls ♪ 98 00:04:45,619 --> 00:04:46,787 ♪♪ 99 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:50,749 ♪ Yeah, I really, really, really, really, really, really, really like girls ♪ 100 00:04:50,832 --> 00:04:53,919 [interviewer] You are from the military, you were in the Navy. 101 00:04:54,002 --> 00:04:57,589 [Russ] Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I've-I was in the military for 23 years. 102 00:04:57,673 --> 00:05:01,134 Even on a ship, I had a haunt going on. 103 00:05:01,218 --> 00:05:03,178 [♪ foreboding music building] 104 00:05:03,262 --> 00:05:05,806 [news anchor] Russ McKamey created a house of horror 105 00:05:05,889 --> 00:05:08,976 that would rival anything at a carnival or theme park. 106 00:05:09,059 --> 00:05:11,562 -Nine rooms, animated ghoulish figures, -[cackling] 107 00:05:11,645 --> 00:05:13,313 you wonder what he spent on it. 108 00:05:13,397 --> 00:05:15,274 This year, about $30,000. 109 00:05:15,357 --> 00:05:17,234 -[cackling] -[♪ scary music playing] 110 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,987 It took me six months to do what I did in there so far, 111 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:21,446 so, and we just ran outta time. 112 00:05:21,530 --> 00:05:24,241 [news anchor] A Navy veteran who now works with the VFW, 113 00:05:24,324 --> 00:05:27,202 he's just always loved Halloween, he says. 114 00:05:27,286 --> 00:05:29,288 [♪ foreboding music playing] 115 00:05:29,371 --> 00:05:34,042 [Kris] When we first met, I started doing video work for him. 116 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,670 Russ was my friend. 117 00:05:36,753 --> 00:05:40,048 I thought that me and Russ were-were best friends. 118 00:05:40,132 --> 00:05:42,342 [♪ curious music playing] 119 00:05:42,426 --> 00:05:45,929 When the manor started originally, it was an awesome thing. 120 00:05:47,014 --> 00:05:51,435 It was kids working it, jumping out, scaring you. 121 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:54,938 You know, there was a line to get in on Halloween. 122 00:05:55,022 --> 00:05:56,940 -[guests chattering] -It was a cool thing. 123 00:05:57,024 --> 00:05:58,942 ♪♪ 124 00:05:59,026 --> 00:06:02,946 That was when the news on what we were doing got big. 125 00:06:03,030 --> 00:06:06,700 This is considered the scariest haunted house in America. 126 00:06:06,783 --> 00:06:09,870 -[eerie cackling] -[Kris] We were on Good Morning America, 127 00:06:09,953 --> 00:06:13,040 every news station, everybody was doin' a story on us. 128 00:06:13,123 --> 00:06:15,918 [narrator] McKamey Manor is completely interactive. 129 00:06:16,001 --> 00:06:18,962 -A two-hour visit to hell on Earth. -[screams] 130 00:06:19,046 --> 00:06:21,924 And then every year, he had to one up it. 131 00:06:22,466 --> 00:06:25,052 [screaming, shouting] 132 00:06:25,135 --> 00:06:28,555 Had to get a little more intense. A little more intense to the point, 133 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,850 though, finally, they got rid of the kids. 134 00:06:31,934 --> 00:06:34,603 -[screaming] -[Russ] Here they come! They're coming! 135 00:06:34,686 --> 00:06:37,314 [chainsaw roaring] 136 00:06:37,898 --> 00:06:40,734 McKamey Manor promises an extreme experience 137 00:06:40,817 --> 00:06:42,277 that can last up to 10 hours, 138 00:06:42,361 --> 00:06:45,072 requires participants to be medically cleared by a doctor 139 00:06:45,155 --> 00:06:48,033 and sign a 40-page waiver. 140 00:06:48,116 --> 00:06:50,536 This place has been known to break the minds... 141 00:06:50,619 --> 00:06:52,955 It was invented by this crazy gentleman... 142 00:06:53,038 --> 00:06:56,750 Russ McKamey videotapes every single second... 143 00:06:56,834 --> 00:07:01,255 ...inducing is a form of psychological torture, but for fun. 144 00:07:01,338 --> 00:07:04,967 [voices overlapping] 145 00:07:05,050 --> 00:07:08,762 [news anchor] They say it amounts to a torture chamber. Yikes. 146 00:07:09,805 --> 00:07:12,307 -[static hissing] -[Kris] The phones would not stop. 147 00:07:15,769 --> 00:07:17,396 His phone would constantly ring, 148 00:07:17,479 --> 00:07:21,108 my phone would constantly ring, with people trying to get in. 149 00:07:21,191 --> 00:07:23,527 It was insane 150 00:07:23,610 --> 00:07:26,864 how quickly and how big it got. 151 00:07:26,947 --> 00:07:29,950 [♪ unsettling music playing] 152 00:07:31,326 --> 00:07:32,953 And that's when it got violent. 153 00:07:33,036 --> 00:07:35,289 -[person wailing] -[Russ] Don't fuckin' move. 154 00:07:35,372 --> 00:07:36,540 [panting] 155 00:07:36,623 --> 00:07:38,542 [muffled yelling] 156 00:07:38,625 --> 00:07:40,794 -Stop resisting! -[slam] 157 00:07:41,253 --> 00:07:43,255 I probably wouldn't do the haunt 158 00:07:44,214 --> 00:07:46,884 -if I wasn't able to film it. -[person yells] 159 00:07:47,509 --> 00:07:50,012 -That's nice. -[person whimpers] 160 00:07:50,095 --> 00:07:51,305 [crying] 161 00:07:51,388 --> 00:07:54,391 Because I want the world to see what I'm doing. 162 00:07:56,727 --> 00:07:57,728 [inaudible] 163 00:07:57,811 --> 00:08:00,814 [static, bars & tone] 164 00:08:04,067 --> 00:08:08,030 [breeze blowing] 165 00:08:19,291 --> 00:08:21,460 I am here because I want everyone 166 00:08:21,543 --> 00:08:23,504 to know the truth on Russ. 167 00:08:24,796 --> 00:08:25,797 [clicking] 168 00:08:27,466 --> 00:08:29,259 [inaudible] 169 00:08:29,343 --> 00:08:32,971 I don't feel like I'm, like, mentally weak, 170 00:08:33,055 --> 00:08:36,099 but it messed me up. 171 00:08:36,642 --> 00:08:39,603 I'm over five years past it... 172 00:08:40,145 --> 00:08:41,146 [clicking] 173 00:08:41,230 --> 00:08:43,106 ...and I'm just now coming to terms 174 00:08:43,190 --> 00:08:45,150 with how fucked up it was. 175 00:08:45,234 --> 00:08:46,985 [inaudible] 176 00:08:47,069 --> 00:08:50,697 [speaker 4] The dude lives in the dark. The world needs to see 177 00:08:50,781 --> 00:08:53,700 what this man has done to people. 178 00:08:53,867 --> 00:08:54,868 [clicking] 179 00:08:56,453 --> 00:08:59,498 If someone asked me my story, I would tell it to 'em. 180 00:08:59,581 --> 00:09:02,417 There's actually a lesson to be learned from Russ. 181 00:09:03,460 --> 00:09:06,505 [♪ eerie crescendo] 182 00:09:10,509 --> 00:09:12,219 [TV static buzzing] 183 00:09:16,306 --> 00:09:17,516 [static hissing] 184 00:09:23,564 --> 00:09:26,567 [♪ eerie music playing] 185 00:09:30,195 --> 00:09:34,241 [W.P. West] I am a producer and creator of immersive horror. 186 00:09:35,576 --> 00:09:37,327 ♪♪ 187 00:09:37,411 --> 00:09:40,330 I'm putting them through what I would perceive as horrific. 188 00:09:40,414 --> 00:09:42,332 ♪♪ 189 00:09:42,416 --> 00:09:46,295 I'm putting them through a scenario that I'm terrified of. 190 00:09:47,254 --> 00:09:51,216 I love traditional Halloween. Like, I love old school haunted houses. 191 00:09:52,134 --> 00:09:53,844 An immersive horror experience 192 00:09:53,927 --> 00:09:57,556 is definitely evolved out of a haunted house, 193 00:09:58,765 --> 00:10:00,851 -but... -[♪ horror sting] 194 00:10:00,934 --> 00:10:03,520 ...you can't compare these things together. 195 00:10:03,604 --> 00:10:06,815 If you wanna put 'em in a hierarchy, you know, you have boo haunts up here. 196 00:10:06,899 --> 00:10:09,568 [kids chattering] 197 00:10:09,651 --> 00:10:11,945 [♪ dramatic music playing] 198 00:10:12,029 --> 00:10:15,782 The normal boo haunted house, they pop out of a hole in the window, 199 00:10:15,866 --> 00:10:18,744 -they scare you around a corner. -[kids scream] 200 00:10:18,827 --> 00:10:21,288 [Brandon] Those are just walkabout haunted houses 201 00:10:21,371 --> 00:10:22,623 that everybody can go to. 202 00:10:22,706 --> 00:10:24,958 [inaudible] 203 00:10:25,709 --> 00:10:26,710 [screams] 204 00:10:26,793 --> 00:10:29,796 [♪ creepy music playing] 205 00:10:31,715 --> 00:10:32,799 [screams] 206 00:10:32,883 --> 00:10:35,177 Followed by more extreme haunts... 207 00:10:35,260 --> 00:10:37,346 [people screaming] 208 00:10:37,429 --> 00:10:40,390 ...but without necessarily actors touching you. 209 00:10:40,474 --> 00:10:44,436 [screaming] 210 00:10:45,562 --> 00:10:47,814 As you kind of get into the more immersive experience, 211 00:10:47,898 --> 00:10:50,817 -they can separate you from your friends. -[screams] 212 00:10:50,901 --> 00:10:53,904 They can tie you up, but it's nothing super extreme. 213 00:10:53,987 --> 00:10:55,614 [cuffs clicking] 214 00:10:55,697 --> 00:10:58,033 At the very bottom is... 215 00:10:58,116 --> 00:11:01,662 -[screaming] -...immersive, extreme type experiences, 216 00:11:01,745 --> 00:11:04,414 where it is full contact. 217 00:11:04,498 --> 00:11:06,708 There's no topic that's off the table. 218 00:11:06,792 --> 00:11:08,293 -[thud] -[lights click] 219 00:11:09,419 --> 00:11:12,047 [W.P.] They're longer, they're more intense, 220 00:11:12,130 --> 00:11:14,299 they're more narrative-driven, 221 00:11:14,383 --> 00:11:17,177 more task-driven, and personal. 222 00:11:17,261 --> 00:11:18,762 [♪ music building] 223 00:11:19,972 --> 00:11:21,473 [♪ dramatic sting] 224 00:11:24,726 --> 00:11:27,771 Some of these ultra personal experiences 225 00:11:27,855 --> 00:11:31,525 are made to make you face 226 00:11:31,608 --> 00:11:33,735 all the things that you don't wanna face. 227 00:11:33,819 --> 00:11:35,737 [panting] 228 00:11:35,821 --> 00:11:37,948 [haunter] Hands and knees, Hands and knees! 229 00:11:38,031 --> 00:11:40,951 [♪ dramatic music playing] 230 00:11:41,034 --> 00:11:44,580 [Brandon] And they go about it in extremely creative ways. 231 00:11:45,372 --> 00:11:46,790 [muffled] Fuck! 232 00:11:47,958 --> 00:11:49,126 [snapping] 233 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:52,129 [breathing heavily] 234 00:11:52,212 --> 00:11:55,299 They put you in situations that you didn't realize you were even scared of. 235 00:11:55,382 --> 00:11:57,593 ♪♪ 236 00:11:58,927 --> 00:12:02,431 [incoherent shouting] 237 00:12:05,934 --> 00:12:09,104 People just enjoy the rush of it 'cause it is a thrill. 238 00:12:09,188 --> 00:12:10,898 ♪♪ 239 00:12:10,981 --> 00:12:13,817 The point is how much can you take, right? 240 00:12:13,901 --> 00:12:17,154 How much physical and mental abuse 241 00:12:17,237 --> 00:12:19,823 can you put up with before you just cut out? 242 00:12:21,408 --> 00:12:24,161 But, you can take away consent at any time, 243 00:12:24,244 --> 00:12:26,872 and a good extreme haunt owner knows that. 244 00:12:34,588 --> 00:12:36,673 You constantly have to ask the participant, 245 00:12:36,757 --> 00:12:38,425 "Do you still consent? Do you still consent?" 246 00:12:38,509 --> 00:12:41,929 Even if it's seven hours, they're going to make sure that I'm safe. 247 00:12:42,012 --> 00:12:44,348 [W.P.] But it isn't just the torturing people. 248 00:12:44,431 --> 00:12:46,517 There is subtext to the show. 249 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:49,186 There's subtext to the things that I'm talking about. 250 00:12:49,269 --> 00:12:52,814 [♪ horror music playing] 251 00:12:54,233 --> 00:12:56,735 But, that isn't always the case. 252 00:12:58,153 --> 00:13:00,656 There's one person 253 00:13:00,739 --> 00:13:03,492 basically running a torture chamber. 254 00:13:03,575 --> 00:13:04,826 ♪♪ 255 00:13:04,910 --> 00:13:06,537 [panting] 256 00:13:06,620 --> 00:13:09,248 [Russ] [echoing] You made a big mistake. Come on. 257 00:13:09,331 --> 00:13:12,876 Russ was, like, a celebrity. You know, 258 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:16,380 every YouTube video at the time, every Facebook link 259 00:13:16,463 --> 00:13:19,424 was Russ' face, mentioning this haunt. 260 00:13:19,508 --> 00:13:22,094 [laughs] We're here waiting for you. 261 00:13:22,177 --> 00:13:24,388 Russ McKamey's a divisive figure. 262 00:13:24,471 --> 00:13:26,682 [Russ] Just get him in here! Get him in here! 263 00:13:26,765 --> 00:13:28,141 He uses his divisiveness 264 00:13:28,225 --> 00:13:31,687 to get your attention, to grow in attention. 265 00:13:31,770 --> 00:13:32,980 [Russ] You understand what I'm telling you? 266 00:13:33,063 --> 00:13:34,064 [indistinct shouting] 267 00:13:34,147 --> 00:13:36,525 [Russ] Yes what? Tell me what I just told you, Christina. 268 00:13:36,608 --> 00:13:39,027 He started to put little bits of information out there 269 00:13:39,111 --> 00:13:41,738 to make himself more infamous, I guess. 270 00:13:41,822 --> 00:13:44,074 [Russ] You look scared Steve. 271 00:13:44,157 --> 00:13:46,326 -I'm terrified, sir. -[Russ] Yeah, you need to be. 272 00:13:46,410 --> 00:13:50,163 [Brandon] It billed itself as the most extreme haunted house in the world. 273 00:13:50,247 --> 00:13:51,915 They do all kinds of crazy stuff to you. 274 00:13:51,999 --> 00:13:53,375 I don't like you here. 275 00:13:53,458 --> 00:13:56,795 I am gonna make sure you have the worst day of your entire life. 276 00:13:56,879 --> 00:14:00,257 They drugged you, that they pulled your teeth, 277 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:03,218 that if you threw up, they make you eat your throw-up. 278 00:14:03,302 --> 00:14:05,304 And I was like, "How is this possible? 279 00:14:05,387 --> 00:14:07,139 But, man, this is fascinating." 280 00:14:07,222 --> 00:14:10,225 [muffled] [screams] Let me out! 281 00:14:10,309 --> 00:14:13,478 Let me out! Let me out! 282 00:14:13,562 --> 00:14:15,230 [♪ dramatic crescendo] 283 00:14:15,314 --> 00:14:18,984 [Russ] We only do one or two shows a week. 284 00:14:19,067 --> 00:14:21,320 -The list is long. -[muffled screaming] 285 00:14:21,403 --> 00:14:25,157 [Brandon] One of those things that Russ liked to say was 286 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,744 he had this 27,000 person waitlist. 287 00:14:28,827 --> 00:14:31,079 -[haunter 1] You won the lottery. -[haunter 2] Out of 20,000. 288 00:14:31,163 --> 00:14:33,540 -[Russ] 27,000. -[haunter 2] 27,000! 289 00:14:33,624 --> 00:14:36,084 He's so big with this huge waitlist. 290 00:14:36,168 --> 00:14:39,087 [Russ] I'm offering you 20 grand, 291 00:14:39,171 --> 00:14:43,091 and you know we're probably not gonna kill ya, so... 292 00:14:43,175 --> 00:14:44,718 There was a $20,000 money prize. 293 00:14:44,801 --> 00:14:47,971 Oh yeah, well, the 20 grand, that's a big part of it. 294 00:14:48,055 --> 00:14:51,808 Well, here I am. Today's the day for my McKamey Manor tour. 295 00:14:51,892 --> 00:14:55,771 [Brandon] Some people see that 20 grand, and they're enticed by that money. 296 00:14:55,854 --> 00:14:57,356 ♪♪ 297 00:14:57,439 --> 00:15:00,859 [gasps] Everyone on the internet told me I could do it, 298 00:15:00,943 --> 00:15:04,321 they wanted me to, and I didn't listen. 299 00:15:04,404 --> 00:15:06,657 Do not come here. 300 00:15:06,740 --> 00:15:09,034 [sobs] 301 00:15:09,117 --> 00:15:11,245 ♪♪ 302 00:15:11,328 --> 00:15:15,874 [Russ] Price of admission for this eight-hour-plus adventure? 303 00:15:15,958 --> 00:15:19,920 Four cans of dog food or a bag of dog food. 304 00:15:20,003 --> 00:15:22,506 [Gabi] He's not making money. 305 00:15:22,589 --> 00:15:26,510 I think most of the money that went into the haunt was from his previous wife. 306 00:15:27,761 --> 00:15:30,639 But I think it is just to keep himself, keep himself clean. 307 00:15:30,722 --> 00:15:31,974 ♪♪ 308 00:15:32,057 --> 00:15:34,434 Haunted houses, like, this is not a money thing. 309 00:15:34,518 --> 00:15:36,144 You gotta do this for the art, 310 00:15:36,228 --> 00:15:39,690 -or 'cause you're a sociopath. -[Russ inaudible] 311 00:15:39,773 --> 00:15:41,775 You wanna run a torture chamber. 312 00:15:44,152 --> 00:15:48,240 [Russ] We're known for no quitting and no safe-wording. 313 00:15:48,323 --> 00:15:49,366 [person panting] 314 00:15:49,449 --> 00:15:53,120 I make it simple 'cause I'm a simple guy, and I can't have too many rules, 315 00:15:53,203 --> 00:15:56,540 otherwise I'll get confused. So, either you actually complete the tour, 316 00:15:56,623 --> 00:15:58,876 -which is not going to happen... -[person panting] 317 00:15:58,959 --> 00:16:03,255 ...or you mentally or physically are at such a breaking point 318 00:16:03,338 --> 00:16:06,049 that it's now not safe for you to continue, 319 00:16:06,133 --> 00:16:07,843 and I need to take you out. 320 00:16:07,926 --> 00:16:10,929 [♪ scary music playing] 321 00:16:12,723 --> 00:16:18,020 Russ doesn't want you to quit until you are a pile of bones and flesh. 322 00:16:18,103 --> 00:16:20,355 And then, you're not probably done either. 323 00:16:20,439 --> 00:16:22,232 [static hissing] 324 00:16:22,316 --> 00:16:23,376 [♪ dramatic crescendo] 325 00:16:23,525 --> 00:16:26,528 [insects chirping] 326 00:16:33,619 --> 00:16:36,038 [Brandon] All that bad stuff, it's selling point. 327 00:16:36,830 --> 00:16:39,541 It's not a reason not to go. It's a reason to go. 328 00:16:39,625 --> 00:16:40,876 How bad can it be? 329 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:43,003 [♪ tense music playing] 330 00:16:46,757 --> 00:16:49,885 That's my number one rule before I go to any extreme haunt. 331 00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:54,848 If a felony's not gonna be taking place, I don't wanna go. 332 00:16:57,893 --> 00:16:59,520 I love the adrenaline. 333 00:17:00,395 --> 00:17:01,396 [gunshot] 334 00:17:02,648 --> 00:17:05,484 There was no second thought, there was no nothing. I had to do it. 335 00:17:08,445 --> 00:17:12,616 I had just moved to Los Angeles. I was, like, trying to be an actress. 336 00:17:12,699 --> 00:17:14,868 I had a group of friends that were creative, 337 00:17:14,952 --> 00:17:18,705 so we would just do fun little short films that were scary. 338 00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:20,582 [screaming] 339 00:17:20,666 --> 00:17:22,543 And I wanted something more extreme. 340 00:17:22,626 --> 00:17:25,546 And it was like a full send point in my life, 341 00:17:25,629 --> 00:17:27,631 where I just didn't think about anything. 342 00:17:27,714 --> 00:17:29,758 I was like, "Okay, like, you only live once. 343 00:17:29,842 --> 00:17:32,386 Like, why not just try to, like, get into this haunted house?" 344 00:17:32,469 --> 00:17:33,971 ♪♪ 345 00:17:34,596 --> 00:17:36,890 [Melissa] My day-to-day activities, 346 00:17:36,974 --> 00:17:40,102 my normal routine gets dull, 347 00:17:40,185 --> 00:17:42,187 and I wanted to branch out. 348 00:17:43,021 --> 00:17:44,314 And I'm not gonna lie. 349 00:17:44,398 --> 00:17:48,110 I honestly thought that this was gonna help 350 00:17:48,193 --> 00:17:51,738 get me a little bit of fame. And I wanted a video of me up on YouTube. 351 00:17:51,822 --> 00:17:53,824 ♪♪ 352 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:00,664 And the more people that I talked to about this that said, 353 00:18:00,747 --> 00:18:03,000 "No, don't do it, don't do it, don't do it," 354 00:18:04,585 --> 00:18:06,461 the more it motivated me. 355 00:18:08,755 --> 00:18:12,009 My first conversations with Russ involved going to his website, 356 00:18:12,092 --> 00:18:15,053 finding out what his email address was, and I just sent him an email. 357 00:18:15,137 --> 00:18:18,599 And I contacted the admins about doing a tour. 358 00:18:18,682 --> 00:18:22,519 "I wanna be an actress. I love horror. Um, I'm trying to start a YouTube channel. 359 00:18:22,603 --> 00:18:24,396 Like, I would love to do this haunt." 360 00:18:24,479 --> 00:18:27,983 Not even two days later, I actually got the email back from him. 361 00:18:28,066 --> 00:18:30,110 [♪ dramatic music playing] 362 00:18:30,194 --> 00:18:33,155 "Hey, Gabi, are you available tomorrow? 363 00:18:33,238 --> 00:18:35,866 I have, like, a spot opening up. Someone bailed." 364 00:18:35,949 --> 00:18:39,328 We kind of bonded because we were both in the service. 365 00:18:39,411 --> 00:18:43,332 He says, "This is your only opportunity to get in. I got 20,000 people waiting, 366 00:18:43,415 --> 00:18:45,542 I'm bumping you to the front of the line." 367 00:18:45,626 --> 00:18:48,086 People get so obsessed, and Russ is feeding their ears, 368 00:18:48,170 --> 00:18:51,048 and they're like, "This is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, 369 00:18:51,131 --> 00:18:53,175 because I'll never get this chance again." 370 00:18:53,258 --> 00:18:56,762 Then, I had to do this little video that Russ asked me to do, 371 00:18:56,845 --> 00:19:00,724 live on this private Facebook group. 372 00:19:00,807 --> 00:19:04,561 I had a friend hanging me by my ankles upside down, 373 00:19:04,645 --> 00:19:07,898 and I actually ate night crawlers 374 00:19:07,981 --> 00:19:10,275 mixed with toothpaste and mustard. 375 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,861 [friend] [on video] She's done. She's ate all the worms. 376 00:19:12,945 --> 00:19:15,697 ♪♪ 377 00:19:15,781 --> 00:19:18,867 And it was horrible. Absolutely horrible. 378 00:19:18,951 --> 00:19:20,827 But I felt like I needed to be 379 00:19:20,911 --> 00:19:23,705 over the top in my creativity, 380 00:19:23,789 --> 00:19:26,333 because he was a big deal, 381 00:19:26,416 --> 00:19:28,919 and I wanted to stand out from the rest. 382 00:19:30,337 --> 00:19:33,006 He announces, you know, I can do a tour. 383 00:19:33,090 --> 00:19:34,383 I said yes. 384 00:19:34,466 --> 00:19:36,093 And I was over the moon excited. 385 00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:40,013 I was like, I guess, for some reason, he liked my email. 386 00:19:40,097 --> 00:19:42,224 And he was very kind at that time. 387 00:19:42,307 --> 00:19:44,726 He made me feel like I was important 388 00:19:44,810 --> 00:19:46,937 and that I was already this huge celebrity 389 00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:48,522 and I had a fan base. 390 00:19:50,274 --> 00:19:51,859 You know, I'm gonna rock this. 391 00:19:51,942 --> 00:19:54,945 [♪ tense music playing] 392 00:19:58,115 --> 00:19:59,116 [wind chimes jingling] 393 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:08,750 [jingling stops] 394 00:20:11,879 --> 00:20:14,715 I'm super scared. I don't know who my partner is. 395 00:20:14,798 --> 00:20:17,593 Um, I'm waiting until it gets a little closer to the time, 396 00:20:17,676 --> 00:20:19,845 then I'm gonna go sit in the spot and wait. 397 00:20:19,928 --> 00:20:23,891 He said, "Find parking near the park. There are bleachers. Sit at the bleachers, 398 00:20:23,974 --> 00:20:26,852 face forward. Don't turn around or anything." 399 00:20:26,935 --> 00:20:30,689 And then, I went and met Russ at the park 400 00:20:30,772 --> 00:20:32,316 for my waiver signing. 401 00:20:32,399 --> 00:20:35,319 I was nervous. I was shaking. My hands were trembling, 402 00:20:35,402 --> 00:20:38,280 and I was trying to fake that I was fine. 403 00:20:44,036 --> 00:20:45,037 [Brandon] Sure. 404 00:20:45,913 --> 00:20:47,539 That was the infamous waiver. 405 00:20:47,623 --> 00:20:51,418 That was the waiver that you're basically signing your life away. 406 00:20:51,502 --> 00:20:55,380 We're not responsible if you die. Like, you're agreeing to sign up for this. 407 00:20:57,591 --> 00:20:58,592 No. 408 00:21:00,302 --> 00:21:02,763 -Yes, yes. -Take this. Don't get it wet. 409 00:21:02,846 --> 00:21:05,432 Why are you doing this? That's my question. Why would you do this 410 00:21:05,516 --> 00:21:08,310 after everything that's happening, why would you sign this waiver? 411 00:21:08,393 --> 00:21:11,522 ♪♪ 412 00:21:11,605 --> 00:21:16,443 "Participant fully understands and agrees that once participant enters MM, 413 00:21:16,527 --> 00:21:20,572 there is no quitting unless serious psychological injury is present." 414 00:21:20,656 --> 00:21:23,242 Your hair may be chopped off. Dentistry may be done. 415 00:21:23,325 --> 00:21:24,826 You may have a tooth extracted. 416 00:21:24,910 --> 00:21:27,996 "Head, neck, back injuries, death, stroke, 417 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,290 traumatic brain injury, brain aneurysm." 418 00:21:30,374 --> 00:21:32,626 I wasn't allowed to, like, look at the person 419 00:21:32,709 --> 00:21:33,752 who gave us the waiver. 420 00:21:33,836 --> 00:21:35,420 We had very weird instructions. 421 00:21:35,504 --> 00:21:39,925 "Retinal hemorrhage, subdural hematoma, loss of consciousness, whiplash, 422 00:21:40,008 --> 00:21:42,010 "harmful heart reactions, 423 00:21:42,094 --> 00:21:45,222 "nausea, headache, dizziness, lacerations, 424 00:21:45,305 --> 00:21:47,015 broken or sprained bones." 425 00:21:48,183 --> 00:21:50,143 [Melissa] None of this had gotten to me. 426 00:21:51,478 --> 00:21:55,357 I had too much excitement going through my veins at the time. 427 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,402 If it would've said a man's gonna come out of the woods 428 00:21:58,485 --> 00:22:01,488 and murder you during this event, I-I would've signed it. 429 00:22:04,491 --> 00:22:07,494 [♪ tense music playing] 430 00:22:08,203 --> 00:22:09,454 [rustling papers] 431 00:22:16,753 --> 00:22:19,923 [Brandon] I get that feeling, that adrenaline is just building, 432 00:22:20,007 --> 00:22:23,427 which is reminiscent right before I left the wire when I was in Iraq. 433 00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:26,763 This was going outside of the safety of your FOB. 434 00:22:27,973 --> 00:22:29,892 The FOB, it's a forward operation base. 435 00:22:30,601 --> 00:22:32,394 That's where we lived. 436 00:22:32,477 --> 00:22:35,856 There's a clear delineation of safety there. You know, safe, 437 00:22:37,274 --> 00:22:38,275 not safe. 438 00:22:39,610 --> 00:22:41,486 As soon as you go outside the gate... 439 00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:43,614 [♪ music building] 440 00:22:43,697 --> 00:22:46,033 -...adrenaline's as high as you can go. -[explosion blasts] 441 00:22:46,116 --> 00:22:49,286 -[soldier] Yeah! Woo! -[soldiers cheer] 442 00:22:49,369 --> 00:22:51,622 -[explosion] -Yeah! 443 00:22:51,705 --> 00:22:54,291 [distant excited shouting] 444 00:22:54,374 --> 00:22:56,418 [♪ dramatic music playing] 445 00:22:56,502 --> 00:22:58,712 [Brandon] We lost a lot of people over there. 446 00:22:58,795 --> 00:23:00,839 People were dying every single day. 447 00:23:02,633 --> 00:23:06,136 I did 21 years. I did three combat tours in Iraq, 448 00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:08,639 which spanned over 40 months. 449 00:23:09,848 --> 00:23:12,643 At the start of the deployment, I had hope. 450 00:23:14,228 --> 00:23:18,023 Very shortly, I realized you abandon your hope. 451 00:23:18,941 --> 00:23:22,319 You realize that death can come at any moment. 452 00:23:23,278 --> 00:23:24,780 ♪♪ 453 00:23:24,863 --> 00:23:27,449 [speaker 5] Military experience is extreme. 454 00:23:27,533 --> 00:23:31,995 Terror haunt experience is extreme. Anything that we do that is extreme, 455 00:23:32,079 --> 00:23:35,499 adrenaline, when it's coursing through us, I mean, it makes us feel powerful. 456 00:23:35,582 --> 00:23:38,293 A lot of times when people have had combat experiences, 457 00:23:38,377 --> 00:23:41,421 you cannot get that feeling anywhere else. 458 00:23:41,797 --> 00:23:44,174 -So, it almost gets kind of locked in. -Mm. 459 00:23:44,258 --> 00:23:47,010 I'm Dr. Lindsay Bira, clinical health psychologist 460 00:23:47,094 --> 00:23:49,763 and PTSD and trauma specialist. 461 00:23:49,847 --> 00:23:51,849 When somebody has had a trauma 462 00:23:51,932 --> 00:23:54,393 and their nervous system is a little bit hijacked, 463 00:23:54,476 --> 00:23:56,103 like we see in PTSD, 464 00:23:56,186 --> 00:24:00,399 then it drives them to seek external sensation to try to regulate. 465 00:24:02,401 --> 00:24:06,488 And for anybody with anxiety, depression, PTSD, 466 00:24:06,572 --> 00:24:09,324 somebody experiencing emotional abnormalities, 467 00:24:09,408 --> 00:24:13,120 they are more likely to seek external stimulation. 468 00:24:13,203 --> 00:24:15,789 [birds cawing] 469 00:24:15,873 --> 00:24:18,542 I'm worried about these types of experiences 470 00:24:18,625 --> 00:24:20,711 because there's no real structure. 471 00:24:20,794 --> 00:24:23,255 There's no limits. The limits keep getting pushed. 472 00:24:23,338 --> 00:24:24,923 [screaming] 473 00:24:25,007 --> 00:24:28,343 But, the most important thing is to be very careful 474 00:24:28,427 --> 00:24:32,306 who is leading an extreme experience. 475 00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:36,602 There can easily be abuse of power, 476 00:24:36,685 --> 00:24:39,813 and we don't know how far to trust somebody. 477 00:24:39,897 --> 00:24:42,774 [♪ tense music playing] 478 00:24:45,777 --> 00:24:47,487 [Melissa] He stuck me in his truck. 479 00:24:47,571 --> 00:24:50,449 Hey, everybody. Come on in. 480 00:24:50,532 --> 00:24:53,702 I was blindfolded, I couldn't see anything, 481 00:24:53,785 --> 00:24:57,748 and off we went to the manor to begin the tour. 482 00:25:01,126 --> 00:25:02,294 [breeze blowing] 483 00:25:02,377 --> 00:25:05,172 -[Brandon] He puts me into his truck. -[door shuts] 484 00:25:05,255 --> 00:25:07,674 He puts earphones on me, 485 00:25:07,758 --> 00:25:11,595 and then I remember the sounds of babies crying, 486 00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:14,056 -and it's very, very loud. -[babies cry] 487 00:25:15,307 --> 00:25:18,727 I'm like, "Okay, I've just lost my sense of hearing." 488 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:22,189 -And then, he starts duct taping my head. -[tape ripping] 489 00:25:22,272 --> 00:25:25,108 He covers my entire head with duct tape, 490 00:25:25,192 --> 00:25:26,443 that I bought, mind you. 491 00:25:26,527 --> 00:25:29,947 Once they kidnapped us and put us in the van, that's when I, like, 492 00:25:30,030 --> 00:25:31,615 I don't even think I felt anxious. 493 00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:33,951 I think I was in, like, fight or flight mode, 494 00:25:34,034 --> 00:25:36,495 and I had to fight 'cause there was nowhere that I could go. 495 00:25:36,578 --> 00:25:38,455 So I was just very focused. 496 00:25:38,539 --> 00:25:40,040 [♪ intense music playing] 497 00:25:40,123 --> 00:25:42,000 [Brandon] I don't know what to expect. 498 00:25:42,084 --> 00:25:45,170 I knew this was go time, right? 499 00:25:45,254 --> 00:25:48,757 I'm getting what I've been wanting to do for years. 500 00:25:48,841 --> 00:25:50,884 It's time! Then, the door swings open. 501 00:25:50,968 --> 00:25:52,386 Come over here. 502 00:25:52,469 --> 00:25:54,638 I was so focused because he was filming me. 503 00:25:54,721 --> 00:25:57,391 I had camera fright. 504 00:25:57,474 --> 00:26:00,561 This video's live, and so it was very, very scary. 505 00:26:00,644 --> 00:26:03,313 [Russ] Fans, what color would you like her base to be? 506 00:26:03,397 --> 00:26:05,774 You got purple, red, pink, yellow. 507 00:26:05,858 --> 00:26:07,776 [Melissa] He hyped me up, did lives, 508 00:26:07,860 --> 00:26:09,695 and he's reading off the comments. 509 00:26:09,778 --> 00:26:12,364 [Russ] She's a sport. Guys, she's a sport. 510 00:26:12,447 --> 00:26:16,243 [Kris] You're gonna be the best one, you're gonna put on the best show ever. 511 00:26:16,326 --> 00:26:20,122 Hypes it up all the time. Really gets you going, gets the fans going. 512 00:26:20,205 --> 00:26:24,042 And then, that-that starts to get into, you know, your ego. 513 00:26:24,126 --> 00:26:25,419 You're like, "Oh, my God, 514 00:26:25,502 --> 00:26:28,505 "I got thousands of people watching me. I was a nobody, 515 00:26:28,589 --> 00:26:31,258 I-- and now I got people rooting me on?" 516 00:26:31,341 --> 00:26:33,802 And you don't wanna let 'em down. 517 00:26:33,886 --> 00:26:36,096 ♪♪ 518 00:26:36,180 --> 00:26:37,723 They pushed us out of the van. 519 00:26:37,806 --> 00:26:40,017 And I think we had to crawl through, like, chicken wire. 520 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:41,935 They had, like, some maze through a garage. 521 00:26:45,147 --> 00:26:47,858 When we got to the other side, that's when we met Russ, 522 00:26:47,941 --> 00:26:50,777 and he looked so happy, so excited. 523 00:26:50,861 --> 00:26:53,530 He had a big old flashlight with a camera on his head. 524 00:26:53,614 --> 00:26:55,073 [panting] 525 00:26:55,157 --> 00:26:57,701 In the moment, just the way he's, like, talking about it 526 00:26:57,784 --> 00:27:01,205 and the tone of his voice as he's talking about it as it's happening. 527 00:27:01,288 --> 00:27:04,750 [Russ] [on TV] Are you prepared? Good. This is your one chance. 528 00:27:04,833 --> 00:27:08,045 I'm gonna give you an out. If you want out, you can get out now. 529 00:27:08,128 --> 00:27:10,964 -[haunter] Verbalize. -No, I wanna stay in. 530 00:27:11,048 --> 00:27:13,884 [Russ] Okay, that's what I like. Okay, cover her eyes. 531 00:27:13,967 --> 00:27:16,803 [inaudible] 532 00:27:23,852 --> 00:27:26,855 [♪ creepy music playing] 533 00:27:28,398 --> 00:27:30,442 It was definitely an endurance test. 534 00:27:30,526 --> 00:27:32,528 -[splashing] -[groaning] 535 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:43,372 [Russ] Wall climb! Batman time! Batman time! 536 00:27:44,414 --> 00:27:47,793 There is no EMTs. There are no medics. 537 00:27:47,876 --> 00:27:49,586 What happens if you're in a stunt, 538 00:27:49,670 --> 00:27:53,131 and somethin' happens to him, and he's hurt? You could be tied up. 539 00:27:53,215 --> 00:27:56,677 Y-You're stuck, nobody's gonna find you. 540 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,971 -[haunter] Oh! No, you go in there! -[Gabi screams] 541 00:27:59,054 --> 00:28:01,056 -[rustling] -[haunter] Sit! 542 00:28:02,558 --> 00:28:06,019 Next thing I know, he grabs my chest and dunks my head under water. 543 00:28:06,937 --> 00:28:08,397 And he holds my chest there. 544 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:09,982 ♪♪ 545 00:28:11,733 --> 00:28:13,735 I'm thinking, "If I just hold my breath 546 00:28:13,819 --> 00:28:15,779 "and don't think, stop moving, 547 00:28:15,863 --> 00:28:18,240 he'll eventually pull me back up", which he does. 548 00:28:18,323 --> 00:28:20,325 And then I start gasping for air again. 549 00:28:20,409 --> 00:28:22,661 And then he does it five or six more times. 550 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:24,246 [dripping] 551 00:28:26,582 --> 00:28:28,417 [Gabi] What if this isn't fake? 552 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:30,627 What if I'm really trapped in this-this freezer now? 553 00:28:30,711 --> 00:28:34,047 Like, and I'm at this guy's house, I don't know where I'm at location-wise. 554 00:28:34,131 --> 00:28:37,801 -[Gabi] [screams] Let me out! -[haunter] [laughs] Louder! 555 00:28:37,885 --> 00:28:41,346 So, that just all happened in my mind, and I just had a panic attack. 556 00:28:41,430 --> 00:28:43,682 -Let me out! -[haunter] You want out? 557 00:28:43,765 --> 00:28:47,186 -Oh, you crying? I think she was crying! -[Gabi sniffling] 558 00:28:47,269 --> 00:28:49,771 Oh, beautiful tears, yes! 559 00:28:50,647 --> 00:28:53,650 -Oh, look at this. Look at the camera. -[sniffles] 560 00:28:53,734 --> 00:28:55,235 Look at camera! 561 00:28:56,612 --> 00:28:57,821 [crying] I wanna get out. 562 00:28:58,780 --> 00:29:01,867 [Russ] This is just the beginning. You understand that, right? 563 00:29:01,950 --> 00:29:04,536 There's so many dark places you're gonna go tonight. 564 00:29:04,620 --> 00:29:07,623 ♪♪ 565 00:29:09,124 --> 00:29:12,085 [Gabi] There's a certain point where they put us in straitjackets 566 00:29:12,169 --> 00:29:14,713 with chains over our neck, and I was like, "Oh gosh, 567 00:29:14,796 --> 00:29:16,423 this is uncomfortable and it's heavy." 568 00:29:19,843 --> 00:29:22,804 And then that's when the water boarding proceeded to happen. 569 00:29:22,888 --> 00:29:24,932 [Russ] Put your head in there. 570 00:29:25,015 --> 00:29:27,017 [water splashing] 571 00:29:28,852 --> 00:29:29,978 [coughing] 572 00:29:31,230 --> 00:29:32,272 [choking] 573 00:29:32,356 --> 00:29:35,734 [inaudible] 574 00:29:35,817 --> 00:29:39,613 [Gabi] I was like, "Oh, this is what it means to be waterboarded. 575 00:29:39,696 --> 00:29:42,115 I feel like I'm drowning." 576 00:29:42,199 --> 00:29:43,367 [coughing] 577 00:29:43,450 --> 00:29:46,662 [Russ] So, you're gonna have to be looking for the big baby bottle. 578 00:29:46,870 --> 00:29:49,081 -[splashing] -Yeah, go. 579 00:29:49,164 --> 00:29:51,500 -[Melissa] Ew... Oh... -[Russ] Get on your belly. 580 00:29:51,583 --> 00:29:53,961 -Get on your belly! -[splashing] 581 00:29:54,044 --> 00:29:56,213 I'm terrified of spiders. Like, to the point 582 00:29:56,296 --> 00:29:59,758 where if I even see one across the room, I get, like, a rash, and I just get itchy 583 00:29:59,842 --> 00:30:02,302 'cause I just cannot stand them. And he knew that. 584 00:30:02,386 --> 00:30:04,847 He asked me going in, like, what my biggest fear was. 585 00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:07,933 ♪♪ 586 00:30:09,226 --> 00:30:12,688 -[Gabi whimpers] -[Russ] [on TV] Shh. Don't make any noise. 587 00:30:12,771 --> 00:30:14,106 Shh... 588 00:30:14,189 --> 00:30:15,732 Don't make any quick motion. 589 00:30:15,816 --> 00:30:17,609 [Gabi] [on TV] [sobs] Please, no. 590 00:30:17,693 --> 00:30:20,070 They were telling me that the tarantula was mad, 591 00:30:20,153 --> 00:30:21,530 and I didn't know that, like, 592 00:30:21,613 --> 00:30:23,824 you're not supposed to handle tarantulas like that. 593 00:30:23,907 --> 00:30:26,118 So he could-- the tarantula, like, could've gotten mad 594 00:30:26,201 --> 00:30:28,579 and like, at me, and bit me, I guess. 595 00:30:28,662 --> 00:30:31,665 So they were like, "Don't cry. Quit freaking out, don't cry." 596 00:30:31,748 --> 00:30:33,792 And I was like, "You have a spider on my face. 597 00:30:33,876 --> 00:30:35,919 How am I not supposed to cry?" And then he's like, 598 00:30:36,003 --> 00:30:37,212 "We're gonna do it anyway. 599 00:30:37,296 --> 00:30:39,047 So like, if you cry, you're gonna get hurt." 600 00:30:39,131 --> 00:30:42,009 So like, in the video, I just froze. I think I just like, stopped breathing, 601 00:30:42,092 --> 00:30:44,386 and I just, like, had an out of body experience. 602 00:30:44,469 --> 00:30:46,805 [crying] Please don't. Please. 603 00:30:46,889 --> 00:30:50,058 [Russ] Look at her. Look at her, Mary, look at her. 604 00:30:50,142 --> 00:30:52,436 -[Haunter Mary] Isn't she pretty? -Please! [gasping] 605 00:30:52,519 --> 00:30:55,189 -[Russ] Look at her. -Please don't. 606 00:30:55,272 --> 00:30:57,316 -Please. -[Haunter Mary] Oops. Oops. 607 00:30:57,399 --> 00:30:59,651 Please don't. Please don't. Please don't! 608 00:30:59,735 --> 00:31:01,820 -[Russ] Shh... -[Gabi whimpering] 609 00:31:01,904 --> 00:31:04,489 It was, like, that moment that it kind of shifted for me. 610 00:31:04,573 --> 00:31:08,327 [inaudible] 611 00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:11,038 [♪ tense music playing] 612 00:31:11,121 --> 00:31:12,456 [screams] 613 00:31:12,539 --> 00:31:15,000 I think I'd went seven, eight hours. 614 00:31:15,083 --> 00:31:16,835 -[splashing] -[Melissa groaning] 615 00:31:16,919 --> 00:31:18,712 [Russ] Find that baby bottle. 616 00:31:18,795 --> 00:31:19,838 [clicking] 617 00:31:20,756 --> 00:31:24,301 Alright, guys. She's doing really good tonight. 618 00:31:24,384 --> 00:31:27,513 [Melissa] But, in that moment, I'm like the celebrity. 619 00:31:27,596 --> 00:31:29,014 I have this huge fan base. 620 00:31:29,097 --> 00:31:31,517 That was big for me. That was huge. 621 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,603 She's a trooper, and she wants to continue on, so, 622 00:31:34,686 --> 00:31:37,314 so we're just, we're doing stuff right now. 623 00:31:37,397 --> 00:31:39,525 [Haunter Mary] You're a rock star. 624 00:31:39,608 --> 00:31:42,027 He closed this cage gate on top of me, 625 00:31:42,110 --> 00:31:44,029 and this water was freezing cold. 626 00:31:44,112 --> 00:31:46,198 And he said, 627 00:31:46,281 --> 00:31:49,284 "Okay, I'm gonna start raising the water level." 628 00:31:49,368 --> 00:31:52,371 When I could start feeling the water rise and when I remember 629 00:31:52,454 --> 00:31:54,706 I tried to put resistance on the cage, 630 00:31:54,790 --> 00:31:56,834 and I-- it wouldn't budge, 631 00:31:58,001 --> 00:32:00,254 that's when I just, I was like, I'm done. I'm done. 632 00:32:03,799 --> 00:32:05,759 -Exactly, exactly. -I ended up quitting. 633 00:32:05,843 --> 00:32:09,179 -[Russ] You got punished here. -[Haunter Mary] This is her punishment 634 00:32:09,263 --> 00:32:11,473 for not findin' the baby bottle. 635 00:32:11,557 --> 00:32:14,101 -[Russ] McKamey Manor just what? -McKamey Manor just kicked my ass. 636 00:32:14,184 --> 00:32:15,602 -[Russ] And you quit. -And I quit. 637 00:32:15,686 --> 00:32:19,147 -[Brandon] I didn't wanna die. -[Gabi] [crying] I'm done. 638 00:32:19,231 --> 00:32:21,066 -[Russ] Tell me you quit. -[Gabi] I quit. 639 00:32:21,149 --> 00:32:23,443 I don't wanna be locked in the dark anymore. 640 00:32:23,527 --> 00:32:25,904 Russ is there the entire time, recording it. 641 00:32:25,988 --> 00:32:29,408 And the joy and, like, pleasure 642 00:32:29,491 --> 00:32:33,078 that he was getting out of it was extremely weird. 643 00:32:33,161 --> 00:32:35,247 You could see he was unfazed. 644 00:32:35,330 --> 00:32:39,626 I'm here, bawling, I'm bleeding, and you're just living your best life, 645 00:32:39,710 --> 00:32:42,462 trying to figure out how much further you could take it. 646 00:32:42,546 --> 00:32:44,756 And I'm just-- that's concerning to me. 647 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,926 But in the moment, I was like, "Oh, this is Russ, this is the guy. 648 00:32:48,010 --> 00:32:50,387 He has the camera on his head. Let's do the tour." 649 00:32:50,929 --> 00:32:53,140 [Brandon] Some of these other extreme haunts, 650 00:32:53,223 --> 00:32:56,977 the trust that I've given them has not been broken. 651 00:32:57,060 --> 00:33:00,939 Even though I'm telling them to push, even though I'm telling them 652 00:33:01,023 --> 00:33:04,776 to do worse and worse stuff to me, I think, deep down, 653 00:33:05,485 --> 00:33:07,571 I know that they're not gonna kill me. 654 00:33:07,654 --> 00:33:10,240 You know, I know they're not gonna cause 655 00:33:10,324 --> 00:33:13,410 permanent physical danger, 656 00:33:13,493 --> 00:33:17,372 but trust was broken with Russ McKamey. 657 00:33:17,456 --> 00:33:20,459 [♪ tense music playing] 658 00:33:20,542 --> 00:33:21,710 [inaudible] 659 00:33:22,252 --> 00:33:24,546 [Gabi] My experience was fucked up, but I also am aware 660 00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:27,090 that every experience after mine 661 00:33:27,174 --> 00:33:30,636 was a thousand times worse because I think he did see 662 00:33:30,719 --> 00:33:33,931 that he kind of was able to keep us for seven hours, 663 00:33:34,014 --> 00:33:37,476 and kind of do whatever he wanted, and, like, we didn't do anything about it. 664 00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,479 We just, like, left and said, "Thanks so much, have a great time." 665 00:33:40,562 --> 00:33:43,482 So I think for him that was validation. Like, "Oh, I could do more." 666 00:33:43,565 --> 00:33:45,067 [♪ dramatic music playing] 667 00:33:45,150 --> 00:33:49,029 [Russ] Hey, everybody, it's Russ. Coming at you right here from McKamey Manor. 668 00:33:49,112 --> 00:33:53,575 [Brandon] Never come here. Don't let-- Don't let anybody 669 00:33:53,659 --> 00:33:55,827 talk you into it or any of that 670 00:33:55,911 --> 00:33:58,622 because it's, um, it's brutal. 671 00:33:58,730 --> 00:34:00,208 [♪ dramatic sting] 672 00:34:00,290 --> 00:34:03,293 -[quiet street noise] -[insects chirping] 673 00:34:06,088 --> 00:34:07,464 [Melissa] The "why." 674 00:34:08,966 --> 00:34:10,968 [♪ unsettling music playing] 675 00:34:11,051 --> 00:34:14,054 [TV static] 676 00:34:15,806 --> 00:34:17,766 Everybody's always gonna wonder the why, 677 00:34:17,850 --> 00:34:21,812 and the why is different for each and every individual that goes through. 678 00:34:28,527 --> 00:34:30,028 My name is DJ Williams. 679 00:34:30,112 --> 00:34:33,115 I'm a full professor at Idaho State University 680 00:34:33,198 --> 00:34:34,783 in Pocatello, Idaho. 681 00:34:34,867 --> 00:34:38,662 I was given the title Dr. Deviant from a dominatrix who I mentored under. 682 00:34:40,163 --> 00:34:42,374 And my research covers sort of the range 683 00:34:42,457 --> 00:34:44,585 and spectrum of deviance and leisure, 684 00:34:44,668 --> 00:34:47,045 and that can include a lot of different things. 685 00:34:47,129 --> 00:34:49,965 That can include criminal activity as leisure. 686 00:34:50,048 --> 00:34:54,011 It can include BDSM and sexuality as leisure. 687 00:34:54,887 --> 00:34:58,515 The extreme horror, extreme experiences phenomenon, 688 00:34:58,599 --> 00:35:01,393 definitely fits within the area of deviant leisure. 689 00:35:02,686 --> 00:35:04,605 And it's hard for people to understand 690 00:35:04,688 --> 00:35:08,650 someone who is clearly an intense sensation seeker or risk taker 691 00:35:08,734 --> 00:35:11,486 that those challenges are actual needs. 692 00:35:11,570 --> 00:35:14,907 And so, we need to have a space, an, an acceptance for people 693 00:35:14,990 --> 00:35:17,034 who are craving those kinds of needs. 694 00:35:17,117 --> 00:35:20,162 So, I think it's easy for, sometimes people to kinda sit back and say, 695 00:35:20,245 --> 00:35:24,082 "Why would somebody do this? There must be something wrong with them." 696 00:35:24,166 --> 00:35:26,627 And that's not the case, necessarily. 697 00:35:27,002 --> 00:35:29,755 ♪♪ 698 00:35:29,838 --> 00:35:32,591 [Gabi] I grew up in private Christian school. 699 00:35:32,674 --> 00:35:35,344 I grew up hearing if you lie, you're gonna go to Hell. 700 00:35:35,427 --> 00:35:37,554 And it wasn't just, like, you're gonna go to Hell. 701 00:35:37,638 --> 00:35:41,016 It's like, "Your skin is gonna burn off, and your eyes are gonna melt." 702 00:35:41,099 --> 00:35:42,351 And I'm, like, 5. 703 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,314 I am queer, so being Black-queer in a space like that, 704 00:35:47,397 --> 00:35:49,608 was really hard to navigate as, like, a young kid. 705 00:35:49,691 --> 00:35:52,402 It's, like, pro-conversion therapy, "Let's get that out of you. 706 00:35:52,486 --> 00:35:54,863 This isn't natural. You're living a life of sin." 707 00:35:54,947 --> 00:35:57,950 So just growing up hearing that, I didn't even know that it was okay. 708 00:35:58,033 --> 00:35:59,910 I didn't even know what queer was. 709 00:35:59,993 --> 00:36:02,454 I just knew that, like, I was really different. 710 00:36:02,538 --> 00:36:05,207 I just knew that it was bad and evil. 711 00:36:05,290 --> 00:36:08,460 To this day, like, I have anxiety 24/7, 712 00:36:08,544 --> 00:36:10,671 so, like, even right now, my heart's like... [exhales]. 713 00:36:10,754 --> 00:36:13,549 It used to be so bad where I couldn't go to the grocery store, 714 00:36:13,632 --> 00:36:15,050 I would just like sit in my car 715 00:36:15,133 --> 00:36:17,553 'cause just I felt too overwhelmed with everything. 716 00:36:17,636 --> 00:36:20,973 So, when I watch a horror film, I have that same feeling, 717 00:36:21,056 --> 00:36:24,309 but it's safely on my couch, and it makes sense. 718 00:36:24,393 --> 00:36:25,394 ♪♪ 719 00:36:25,477 --> 00:36:28,480 It's like, oh, there's a guy with a chainsaw on the TV, 720 00:36:28,564 --> 00:36:29,857 like, gonna hurt somebody. 721 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:31,984 There's a reason to be anxious in this moment. 722 00:36:32,901 --> 00:36:34,695 Which is why I started looking into 723 00:36:34,778 --> 00:36:37,030 the whole immersive horror experience thing. 724 00:36:37,114 --> 00:36:39,992 So, I was like, "What if I live through something crazy" 725 00:36:40,075 --> 00:36:43,120 and then I know that I can do anything going forward. 726 00:36:43,203 --> 00:36:44,580 It reminds me, "Hey, 727 00:36:44,663 --> 00:36:48,250 "I just went through this series of events, 728 00:36:48,333 --> 00:36:49,543 and I survived." 729 00:36:49,626 --> 00:36:53,172 [insects chirping] 730 00:36:54,173 --> 00:36:56,800 As a young child, 731 00:36:57,593 --> 00:37:00,387 I dealt with an abusive mother. 732 00:37:00,470 --> 00:37:01,513 ♪♪ 733 00:37:01,597 --> 00:37:04,391 Being put into a foster home at such a young age 734 00:37:04,474 --> 00:37:06,852 was very, very traumatic. 735 00:37:07,603 --> 00:37:11,398 It was scary having to go through people and people and people, 736 00:37:11,481 --> 00:37:15,485 and tell the same story over and over again of what happened. 737 00:37:15,569 --> 00:37:17,404 To be one day ripped apart 738 00:37:17,487 --> 00:37:20,073 from everyone you know and everything. 739 00:37:20,157 --> 00:37:23,076 To be told you're taken to a safer place, 740 00:37:24,036 --> 00:37:27,998 and the place you're going to is just full of unknown and uncertainty, 741 00:37:28,081 --> 00:37:31,084 and it just breaks a part of you inside. 742 00:37:32,336 --> 00:37:35,339 I feel like I do these things to remind myself 743 00:37:35,422 --> 00:37:38,133 that I'm strong, and I'm a survivor, 744 00:37:38,217 --> 00:37:40,677 and I can get through a lot of shit. 745 00:37:40,761 --> 00:37:43,055 ♪♪ 746 00:37:43,138 --> 00:37:45,057 [W.P.] A lot of people go through 747 00:37:45,140 --> 00:37:47,184 really traumatic situations, 748 00:37:47,267 --> 00:37:50,771 and they find something to fill this gap. 749 00:37:50,854 --> 00:37:54,816 And I would see the progress of making it through something that's terrible 750 00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:57,611 and-and using it to the advantage of yourself. 751 00:37:59,738 --> 00:38:00,989 [♪ dramatic crescendo] 752 00:38:02,407 --> 00:38:06,620 It sounds like there's a lot of, kind of pushing, or here's an edge, 753 00:38:06,703 --> 00:38:08,872 but then, "Okay, I can go beyond that edge. 754 00:38:08,956 --> 00:38:11,416 I just accomplished this. I guess let's take it further." 755 00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:15,170 Like, I feel like I need-- Like, I need that type of punishment. 756 00:38:15,254 --> 00:38:16,463 Mm-hmm. 757 00:38:16,547 --> 00:38:18,549 Like it's something that-- 758 00:38:19,508 --> 00:38:21,635 it's something that I feel like I deserve. 759 00:38:21,718 --> 00:38:23,554 [♪ soft music playing] 760 00:38:23,637 --> 00:38:26,640 When I got back, I was a completely different person. 761 00:38:26,723 --> 00:38:29,393 Okay and that was after you came back from the military, right? 762 00:38:29,476 --> 00:38:31,061 Yes, that was after my 763 00:38:31,144 --> 00:38:32,729 -third tour in Iraq. -Okay. 764 00:38:32,813 --> 00:38:36,984 I didn't see here as home. This wasn't home to me anymore. 765 00:38:38,277 --> 00:38:40,779 I think I knew I had PTSD. 766 00:38:40,863 --> 00:38:43,365 I sure as hell didn't think I had survivor's guilt, 767 00:38:43,448 --> 00:38:46,118 but one of the things I did is, 768 00:38:46,201 --> 00:38:48,537 I started giving away body parts. 769 00:38:48,620 --> 00:38:50,038 I gave my kidney away. 770 00:38:50,122 --> 00:38:53,667 I was also signed up to give a piece of my liver away. 771 00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:56,670 And I also signed up for the bone marrow transplant list. 772 00:38:56,753 --> 00:38:58,505 [♪ tense music playing] 773 00:38:58,589 --> 00:39:00,716 I was gonna give away as much as I could. 774 00:39:02,050 --> 00:39:04,219 I didn't see any purpose anymore. 775 00:39:06,180 --> 00:39:08,557 There's parts of me that are essentially broken, you know, 776 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,059 and, emotionally, mentally, physically, what have you. 777 00:39:11,143 --> 00:39:14,313 [Dr. Lindsay Bira] It's not a bad thing to push the limits 778 00:39:14,396 --> 00:39:17,065 or to, you know, have a very real human experience 779 00:39:17,149 --> 00:39:19,318 or to explore the edges of human experience. 780 00:39:19,401 --> 00:39:22,237 I think that's actually an awesome thing. 781 00:39:22,321 --> 00:39:25,824 But, you are desensitizing yourself to those natural cues, 782 00:39:25,908 --> 00:39:28,911 where your brain and your body is saying, "This is my limit." 783 00:39:30,204 --> 00:39:31,288 Yeah. 784 00:39:31,371 --> 00:39:34,166 [Dr. Bira] That's something really good to think about. 785 00:39:35,167 --> 00:39:38,170 Well, I mean, I just look at those ultra-marathon runners, right? 786 00:39:38,253 --> 00:39:42,174 They punish their body. Their feet are torn to pieces, you know? 787 00:39:42,257 --> 00:39:45,677 It's all in the name of, you know, self-improvement. 788 00:39:48,138 --> 00:39:50,557 [Dr. Deviant] You have big wave surfers, 789 00:39:50,641 --> 00:39:54,019 you have freestyle mountain climbers who use no safety gear, 790 00:39:54,102 --> 00:39:56,104 deep ocean divers, 791 00:39:56,188 --> 00:39:58,482 and they're constantly pushing that edge. 792 00:39:58,565 --> 00:40:00,442 [Brandon] Why is this any different? 793 00:40:00,526 --> 00:40:03,487 I could never run an ultra marathon. I know I can't. 794 00:40:03,570 --> 00:40:05,656 But, I can, I can get tortured for 12 hours. 795 00:40:05,739 --> 00:40:07,574 [Russ] The fun has just begun. 796 00:40:07,658 --> 00:40:11,286 So far, what you've endured is nothing compared to the last half. 797 00:40:11,370 --> 00:40:14,581 -[♪ dramatic music playing] -[whimpering] 798 00:40:14,665 --> 00:40:18,168 [speaker 6] Torture is the intentional infliction 799 00:40:18,252 --> 00:40:22,172 of serious or severe pain and suffering 800 00:40:22,256 --> 00:40:24,383 -on a person... -[dripping] 801 00:40:24,466 --> 00:40:26,552 ...for the purpose of punishment 802 00:40:26,635 --> 00:40:29,096 or to force them to do or say something. 803 00:40:31,265 --> 00:40:32,891 My name is Alka Pradhan. 804 00:40:32,975 --> 00:40:36,061 I'm a human rights attorney practicing at Guantanamo Bay 805 00:40:36,144 --> 00:40:38,355 and before the International Criminal Court. 806 00:40:38,438 --> 00:40:41,733 And my expertise is in working with torture victims. 807 00:40:42,693 --> 00:40:47,322 And in my work at Guantanamo Bay, I'm employed by the Department of Defense. 808 00:40:47,406 --> 00:40:49,950 And so, nothing I say represents 809 00:40:50,033 --> 00:40:52,327 the opinion of the Department of Defense. 810 00:40:52,411 --> 00:40:55,789 And nothing I say should be taken to confirm or deny any information 811 00:40:55,873 --> 00:40:58,917 that the Department of Defense considers to be classified. 812 00:40:59,001 --> 00:41:02,963 Personally, I am really repulsed 813 00:41:03,046 --> 00:41:07,009 by the idea of anyone using torture 814 00:41:07,092 --> 00:41:10,304 or acts that simulate torture 815 00:41:10,387 --> 00:41:13,182 in a way that is entertaining. 816 00:41:13,265 --> 00:41:14,766 [lock clicking] 817 00:41:15,392 --> 00:41:18,353 Nothing about torture is entertaining. 818 00:41:18,437 --> 00:41:21,690 Undergoing torture doesn't really strengthen you. 819 00:41:21,773 --> 00:41:23,275 If it doesn't kill people, 820 00:41:23,358 --> 00:41:26,236 it affects them for the entirety of their lives. 821 00:41:27,279 --> 00:41:29,948 The first thing to keep in mind is that 822 00:41:30,866 --> 00:41:32,367 ♪♪ 823 00:41:32,451 --> 00:41:34,286 all torture has psychological effects. 824 00:41:34,536 --> 00:41:38,290 Even if you consent to some aspect of that, 825 00:41:38,373 --> 00:41:40,709 the fear created in your mind, 826 00:41:41,835 --> 00:41:45,297 what psychologists often call "uncontrollable stress," 827 00:41:46,048 --> 00:41:48,342 can literally change your neural pathways. 828 00:41:48,425 --> 00:41:51,595 And it's something that is almost impossible to remove. 829 00:41:51,678 --> 00:41:53,805 [♪ dramatic music playing] 830 00:41:55,057 --> 00:41:57,851 [Russ] So, did-did you expect all that after, you know? 831 00:41:57,935 --> 00:42:01,188 Well, I expected it to be rough, but I didn't expect to actually cry. 832 00:42:01,271 --> 00:42:04,900 [♪ dramatic crescendo] 833 00:42:05,317 --> 00:42:08,070 -[Russ] Yeah, you did cry. -[Gabi] Yeah, like five times. 834 00:42:09,238 --> 00:42:11,240 [♪ soft ominous tone] 835 00:42:11,323 --> 00:42:14,785 [Gabi] Russ posted my video on YouTube, and it went super viral. 836 00:42:15,786 --> 00:42:19,748 [♪ dissonant chords playing] 837 00:42:20,749 --> 00:42:22,918 A few months after going through it, 838 00:42:23,001 --> 00:42:25,337 I, so bad, just wanted to be involved 839 00:42:25,420 --> 00:42:27,339 with, like, anything to do with horror. 840 00:42:27,422 --> 00:42:30,425 Whether it was, like, acting or, like, writing or anything. 841 00:42:31,426 --> 00:42:33,095 And Russ saw that. 842 00:42:34,012 --> 00:42:37,641 And I ended up running his Facebook group, I was running his YouTube channel, 843 00:42:37,724 --> 00:42:40,310 I was running his Twitter. I was like his little assistant. 844 00:42:40,394 --> 00:42:43,063 Get people into the haunt, hype it up. 845 00:42:43,146 --> 00:42:45,274 If people were talking negatively about it, 846 00:42:45,357 --> 00:42:47,276 I was supposed to, like, undercut them. 847 00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:50,195 Be like, "No, like, I've met Russ. He's, like, such a great guy." 848 00:42:50,279 --> 00:42:53,407 So, I was just supposed to be his, like, wingman. 849 00:42:54,658 --> 00:42:57,911 But then, I started to get some weird feelings. 850 00:42:57,995 --> 00:42:59,746 Um, 851 00:42:59,830 --> 00:43:03,292 I'm just gonna keep this short. It's actually hard to talk. 852 00:43:03,375 --> 00:43:07,337 As you can see, my lips are severely swollen. 853 00:43:07,421 --> 00:43:09,631 He likes men that have been in the military. 854 00:43:09,715 --> 00:43:13,468 I think Russ really got off on, like, the power dynamic with the men. 855 00:43:13,552 --> 00:43:16,013 [muffled screaming] 856 00:43:16,096 --> 00:43:18,098 There are some tours where 857 00:43:18,182 --> 00:43:21,435 the way that they were beat up was just too-- like, too far. 858 00:43:21,518 --> 00:43:24,062 Like, broken ribs, concussions, 859 00:43:24,146 --> 00:43:26,398 like, eyes so swollen that they can't even open 'em. 860 00:43:26,481 --> 00:43:29,109 [♪ tense music playing] 861 00:43:29,193 --> 00:43:30,611 And I think for him, it's power. 862 00:43:30,694 --> 00:43:33,405 Like, "This guy was in the Marines? Like, look at me kicking his ass." 863 00:43:38,035 --> 00:43:41,330 -And then, like, vulnerable women. -No, Russ, that water freaks me out. 864 00:43:41,413 --> 00:43:43,582 -You know that! I hate-- -[water hose hissing] 865 00:43:43,665 --> 00:43:45,709 [crying] Please! Please, don't! 866 00:43:45,792 --> 00:43:48,629 Russ feels that if you go through one of his experiences, 867 00:43:48,712 --> 00:43:52,049 especially if you're female, you now have a special bond with Russ. 868 00:43:52,132 --> 00:43:55,552 He really only wanted, like, pretty girls. 869 00:43:55,636 --> 00:43:57,137 [rattling] 870 00:43:57,221 --> 00:43:59,556 No. No! No. 871 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,225 [Russ] Honey, be quiet. 872 00:44:01,308 --> 00:44:03,560 [rattling] 873 00:44:03,644 --> 00:44:07,606 You knew when he had a new girlfriend because it was nonstop shows. 874 00:44:07,689 --> 00:44:10,234 He would have them come to his house, 875 00:44:10,317 --> 00:44:12,402 and he would just make them 876 00:44:12,486 --> 00:44:14,905 continuously go through a tour 877 00:44:14,988 --> 00:44:16,698 every day that they were with him. 878 00:44:16,782 --> 00:44:19,409 ♪♪ 879 00:44:19,493 --> 00:44:22,412 -[whimpering, sobbing] -[Kris] For some reasons, he feels like 880 00:44:22,496 --> 00:44:24,706 with these women he can go an extra step, 881 00:44:24,790 --> 00:44:28,293 and that safety harness just gets removed a little more. 882 00:44:28,377 --> 00:44:31,755 [Susan] Things like laying in the grass with a ski mask on my face, 883 00:44:31,839 --> 00:44:33,924 getting sprayed with water over and over, 884 00:44:34,007 --> 00:44:37,094 or submerging into cold water over and over. 885 00:44:37,177 --> 00:44:38,887 And in one particular activity, 886 00:44:38,971 --> 00:44:41,723 I confessed that I was actually afraid of dying. 887 00:44:41,807 --> 00:44:44,852 And he laughed and said that if I died, 888 00:44:44,935 --> 00:44:46,478 at least I would be on camera. 889 00:44:46,562 --> 00:44:48,397 ♪♪ 890 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,607 [Kris] These are really good-looking women. 891 00:44:50,691 --> 00:44:52,818 And you got this guy who lives in a trailer 892 00:44:52,901 --> 00:44:54,903 that sprays you in the face with a hose. 893 00:44:54,987 --> 00:44:58,740 What is he doing to keep 'em to stay? 894 00:44:59,324 --> 00:45:01,285 -I don't know. -[Russ] I like that. 895 00:45:01,368 --> 00:45:04,371 -[dog barking] -[Russ] There she is! 896 00:45:04,454 --> 00:45:07,457 There she is! The pretty one right there. 897 00:45:07,541 --> 00:45:09,710 [Brandon] McKamey Manor was "Tinder" to him. 898 00:45:09,793 --> 00:45:11,128 Was his "Plenty of Fish." 899 00:45:11,211 --> 00:45:14,214 That's what he used it for. That's the impression that I got. 900 00:45:14,298 --> 00:45:16,383 You can do this. Put your head up, please. 901 00:45:17,843 --> 00:45:20,012 You got this, okay? You got it. 902 00:45:20,095 --> 00:45:24,016 He was my friend. Like, I don't want to think that he would actually 903 00:45:24,099 --> 00:45:27,686 purposely manipulate these women, but he does. 904 00:45:27,769 --> 00:45:30,272 Show 'em what you got in your mouth. 905 00:45:30,355 --> 00:45:32,941 -Ah, ah, ah! [giggle] -That's right. 906 00:45:33,025 --> 00:45:35,819 -Come here, and you can wear that, too. -Yep! 907 00:45:35,903 --> 00:45:37,988 He knows how to get into people's heads, 908 00:45:38,071 --> 00:45:42,075 he knows the right thing to say, he can read a person really good. 909 00:45:42,492 --> 00:45:45,204 I've seen Russ talk to a person 910 00:45:45,287 --> 00:45:48,415 that hates everything about the haunt, 911 00:45:48,498 --> 00:45:50,667 and turn them into a friend by the end 912 00:45:50,751 --> 00:45:52,169 and wanting to sign up. 913 00:45:52,252 --> 00:45:55,047 He-He is so good at what he does. 914 00:45:55,130 --> 00:45:57,966 Yeah, I'm that big crazy haunted house guy! That's me! 915 00:45:58,050 --> 00:46:00,886 -[girlfriend laughs] -Are you scared of me? 916 00:46:00,969 --> 00:46:02,554 I'm pretty scary, aren't I? 917 00:46:02,638 --> 00:46:05,849 -[♪ soft music playing] -[TV static] 918 00:46:05,933 --> 00:46:08,519 [Kris] You know, he would try to manipulate me, too. 919 00:46:09,728 --> 00:46:12,231 -[indistinct sound] -[water splashing] 920 00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:14,983 When I went through, 921 00:46:15,984 --> 00:46:19,947 Russ had me sit back in, like, a trough. 922 00:46:20,030 --> 00:46:22,241 -[clattering] -[shivering] 923 00:46:22,324 --> 00:46:24,993 -[Russ] Yeah. You like that? -[Kris] No. 924 00:46:26,078 --> 00:46:30,332 [Russ] We're gonna fill up this entire little device right here. 925 00:46:30,415 --> 00:46:32,417 [water dripping] 926 00:46:32,501 --> 00:46:34,586 And we're gonna have a good time, Kris. 927 00:46:34,670 --> 00:46:36,255 -[Kris groans] -Oh, yeah. 928 00:46:36,338 --> 00:46:40,759 When I started to realize that I was having the dirt poured over my face... 929 00:46:40,843 --> 00:46:43,887 -No, no, no, no, no. -[Russ sighs] 930 00:46:43,971 --> 00:46:45,681 -[Kris groans] -How's that feel? 931 00:46:45,764 --> 00:46:46,765 [Kris] No, no, no, no. 932 00:46:46,849 --> 00:46:49,184 ...and then you're thinking, "Russ is my friend." 933 00:46:49,268 --> 00:46:52,312 You know, "He's-He's just gonna make it look good for the camera." 934 00:46:53,021 --> 00:46:54,523 But then, he didn't stop. 935 00:46:54,606 --> 00:46:56,942 -No, no, no, no, no... [continues] -[Russ] Who's your friend? 936 00:46:57,025 --> 00:46:58,861 -Quiet, shut up. Shut up. -[Kris stops] 937 00:46:58,944 --> 00:47:00,529 And I can't even tell you 938 00:47:00,612 --> 00:47:03,532 the amount of times in that video that I said "Stop." 939 00:47:03,615 --> 00:47:05,868 -[Russ] We're gonna bury you completely. -[digs] 940 00:47:05,951 --> 00:47:08,245 [Kris] Mm-mm. No, I can't do it. Can't do it. 941 00:47:08,328 --> 00:47:10,622 -No, I can't do it. -[Russ] You gotta be quiet. 942 00:47:10,706 --> 00:47:12,749 -Be quiet! -[Kris] No, I'm freaking out. 943 00:47:12,833 --> 00:47:15,043 -[Russ] You're not freaking out. -[Kris] [spits] No! 944 00:47:15,127 --> 00:47:17,504 I was done. Game over. 945 00:47:17,588 --> 00:47:20,716 And it just kept going and going and going. 946 00:47:20,799 --> 00:47:23,760 And in that moment, I didn't know if it was gonna stop. 947 00:47:23,844 --> 00:47:25,971 [Russ] We have hours and hours to go, Kris. 948 00:47:26,054 --> 00:47:27,848 [Kris] No, no, no. Russ, no. 949 00:47:27,931 --> 00:47:29,766 -No more, no more. -[Russ] You're fine. 950 00:47:29,850 --> 00:47:31,727 -Be quiet. -[Kris] I quit, I quit. 951 00:47:31,810 --> 00:47:33,604 [Russ] You don't quit. There is no quitting. 952 00:47:33,687 --> 00:47:35,689 -[Kris] [spits] No. -[Russ] There is no quitting, Kris. 953 00:47:35,772 --> 00:47:38,233 I-I started to question, "Is this the end?" 954 00:47:38,317 --> 00:47:39,610 I-I can't get out of this. 955 00:47:39,693 --> 00:47:42,905 I was stuck in a spot that I was not moving from. 956 00:47:42,988 --> 00:47:45,490 [Russ] I wanna bury you completely. Completely. 957 00:47:45,574 --> 00:47:48,118 [Kris] No, I can't. I can't. I can't. I can't. 958 00:47:48,202 --> 00:47:50,662 -Russ, I can't. Russ, I can't. -[Russ yells, laughs] 959 00:47:50,746 --> 00:47:53,624 -I quit. Russ, I quit. I can't. -[Russ] There's no quitting. 960 00:47:53,707 --> 00:47:56,043 -[Kris] Russ, I-- [spits] -[Russ] Ooh there! 961 00:47:56,126 --> 00:47:59,713 That doubt starts to seep into your head, and you're thinkin', 962 00:47:59,796 --> 00:48:02,382 "I didn't say goodbye to people. Why did I come here? 963 00:48:02,466 --> 00:48:04,593 "Why did I go against that better judgment? 964 00:48:04,676 --> 00:48:08,639 Am I finally gonna be the one that the line is crossed for?" 965 00:48:10,724 --> 00:48:12,351 You really don't wanna do this. 966 00:48:12,434 --> 00:48:14,728 [Kris panting] 967 00:48:15,062 --> 00:48:17,981 [Russ] So tell the folks about whether they should come here or not. 968 00:48:18,065 --> 00:48:20,275 [Kris] No, don't go. Don't come here. Don't sign up. 969 00:48:20,359 --> 00:48:23,195 [Russ] Yeah, sign up. It's fun. Come on down. Good times for everybody. 970 00:48:23,278 --> 00:48:25,155 -[Kris] No, it's not. -[Russ] Yes, it is! 971 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:29,201 [mud gurgling] 972 00:48:29,284 --> 00:48:32,287 [♪ tense music playing] 973 00:48:33,956 --> 00:48:36,834 -[wind blowing] -[birds cawing] 974 00:48:36,917 --> 00:48:39,962 [Russ] You know, what I really enjoy is making my little movies. 975 00:48:42,047 --> 00:48:44,508 So, in a way, I'm a little filmmaker as well. 976 00:48:44,591 --> 00:48:45,843 [♪ dramatic crescendo] 977 00:48:45,926 --> 00:48:48,929 [projector whirring] 978 00:48:55,561 --> 00:49:00,691 [Carol] He works on those videos, it seems like 24/7. 979 00:49:00,774 --> 00:49:04,736 And so, I constantly hear screaming all night long. 980 00:49:04,820 --> 00:49:05,946 [screaming] 981 00:49:06,029 --> 00:49:07,155 [inaudible] 982 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,158 [Russ] People tell me this is fake. Is this fake right now? 983 00:49:10,242 --> 00:49:13,453 -[participant] No, sir, it's not fake. -[distorted yell] 984 00:49:13,537 --> 00:49:16,331 [Russ] If you ever question if we're real or not, 985 00:49:16,415 --> 00:49:18,750 just watch the movies 986 00:49:18,834 --> 00:49:20,878 and watch how these people end up. 987 00:49:20,961 --> 00:49:23,172 [on TV] I quit! I quit! I quit! I quit! 988 00:49:23,255 --> 00:49:24,298 [muffled yelling] 989 00:49:24,381 --> 00:49:27,926 [Russ] You'll see individuals literally in shock. 990 00:49:28,010 --> 00:49:30,512 [on TV] I can't do it, I can't do it, I can't do it. [gasps] 991 00:49:30,596 --> 00:49:32,848 [Russ] You'll see them mumbling to themselves, 992 00:49:32,931 --> 00:49:36,143 not knowing what date it is, not knowing who the president is. 993 00:49:36,226 --> 00:49:38,979 [Russ] [on TV] Who's our first president? Quick, hurry up. 994 00:49:39,062 --> 00:49:41,273 -I don't know! -[♪ dramatic crescendo] 995 00:49:42,399 --> 00:49:45,944 That camera. When that camera's in front, your limits are gone. 996 00:49:46,028 --> 00:49:48,155 -[Russ] Put your head down. -[Kris] Anything that you sign, 997 00:49:48,238 --> 00:49:49,990 thinkin' that you were getting into 998 00:49:50,073 --> 00:49:52,826 and those were the rules that were set in place, 999 00:49:52,910 --> 00:49:56,872 they don't exist. He wants that Kodak moment. 1000 00:49:56,955 --> 00:50:01,168 He wants to be able to see that true fear, when that person thinks, 1001 00:50:01,251 --> 00:50:04,087 "I'm gonna be the first person to die at McKamey Manor." 1002 00:50:12,137 --> 00:50:13,764 So, 1003 00:50:13,847 --> 00:50:15,432 it was a person, 1004 00:50:15,516 --> 00:50:18,519 they sent me photos I hadn't seen. 1005 00:50:18,602 --> 00:50:19,811 ♪♪ 1006 00:50:19,895 --> 00:50:22,689 And it was the photos of Lori. 1007 00:50:22,773 --> 00:50:24,775 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1008 00:50:26,860 --> 00:50:30,822 I'm seein' this girl that was just beaten, like a gang initiation. 1009 00:50:30,906 --> 00:50:33,617 [clock ticking] 1010 00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:36,578 And that's when I said, "Why did you let that go?" 1011 00:50:37,996 --> 00:50:39,248 And the answer I got was, 1012 00:50:39,331 --> 00:50:42,292 "You'd be surprised what you would do to get the right shot." 1013 00:50:42,376 --> 00:50:44,211 [♪ dramatic sting] 1014 00:50:44,294 --> 00:50:47,881 When I saw these pictures of Lori, I-I couldn't do it anymore. 1015 00:50:47,965 --> 00:50:48,966 [♪ dramatic sting] 1016 00:50:49,883 --> 00:50:50,884 [♪ dramatic sting] 1017 00:50:51,844 --> 00:50:52,845 [♪ dramatic sting] 1018 00:50:53,804 --> 00:50:56,765 [♪ dramatic crescendo] 1019 00:51:00,018 --> 00:51:02,229 -[Russ] [on TV] No? -[Gabi] [on TV] I hate it. 1020 00:51:03,063 --> 00:51:04,898 [Russ] You hate it? Well, 1021 00:51:04,982 --> 00:51:07,317 -hold still, my dear. -No! 1022 00:51:08,861 --> 00:51:10,153 [haunters gasp] 1023 00:51:11,238 --> 00:51:13,740 [haunter] Oh... God. 1024 00:51:13,824 --> 00:51:16,618 -And just for safe-- -[Gabi whimpers] 1025 00:51:16,702 --> 00:51:19,121 [on TV] Don't cry, you're still beautiful. 1026 00:51:21,248 --> 00:51:24,042 Gosh. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. 1027 00:51:26,962 --> 00:51:29,173 I don't know how he's able to legally do this 1028 00:51:29,256 --> 00:51:31,175 because I don't feel like it's legal. 1029 00:51:35,596 --> 00:51:38,640 Yeah, absolutely. I-- Whenever he's physically abusing 1030 00:51:38,724 --> 00:51:40,934 the females who he entraps in his house. 1031 00:51:41,018 --> 00:51:42,477 How far can we take it? 1032 00:51:42,561 --> 00:51:44,479 I don't think I could legally sue him. 1033 00:51:44,563 --> 00:51:47,024 We signed agreements. We're consenting adults. 1034 00:51:54,823 --> 00:51:57,075 I don't think there was ever a time where I was like, I don't-- 1035 00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:59,203 Maybe the spider. But, 1036 00:51:59,286 --> 00:52:01,663 I don't think I made it clear with anything else 1037 00:52:01,747 --> 00:52:03,498 that I was, like, not consenting. 1038 00:52:03,582 --> 00:52:05,626 I didn't really feel like I could say that, though, 1039 00:52:05,709 --> 00:52:07,044 'cause I signed the waiver. 1040 00:52:07,127 --> 00:52:10,631 So I think signing the waiver, I just felt like, I was obligated to stay in it. 1041 00:52:11,173 --> 00:52:12,883 [♪ eerie sting] 1042 00:52:12,966 --> 00:52:15,344 We all agreed to it. 1043 00:52:15,928 --> 00:52:17,930 [♪ eerie sting] 1044 00:52:19,223 --> 00:52:22,434 [inaudible] 1045 00:52:29,441 --> 00:52:31,568 There may be an element of shame 1046 00:52:31,652 --> 00:52:34,947 in the fact that you signed up for this experience, um, 1047 00:52:35,030 --> 00:52:37,741 and this sense that you kind of brought it on yourself. 1048 00:52:37,824 --> 00:52:41,453 But, under the law, even if they have signed a waiver, 1049 00:52:42,621 --> 00:52:46,124 they may still have recourse for what was done to them. 1050 00:52:46,208 --> 00:52:49,169 [♪ soft music playing] 1051 00:52:49,253 --> 00:52:51,213 We tend to be pretty liberal in the United States 1052 00:52:51,296 --> 00:52:52,923 about what you can consent to. 1053 00:52:55,217 --> 00:52:57,886 It is certainly possible when you attend, for example, 1054 00:52:57,970 --> 00:53:01,265 a haunted house, to consent to certain acts 1055 00:53:01,348 --> 00:53:05,185 that may cause fear or that may even touch you 1056 00:53:05,269 --> 00:53:09,189 in what would otherwise be considered offensive contact or battery. 1057 00:53:09,273 --> 00:53:12,568 [overlapping screaming] 1058 00:53:12,651 --> 00:53:16,572 But, the line is drawn when something constitutes 1059 00:53:16,655 --> 00:53:18,073 serious bodily injury. 1060 00:53:18,156 --> 00:53:20,534 Examples of that would be 1061 00:53:20,617 --> 00:53:22,369 traumatic brain injuries, 1062 00:53:22,452 --> 00:53:23,954 fractures, 1063 00:53:24,037 --> 00:53:25,372 back injuries, 1064 00:53:25,455 --> 00:53:29,042 and psychological injuries that require prolonged treatment. 1065 00:53:29,126 --> 00:53:34,214 So, it is simply not possible for someone to say, 1066 00:53:34,298 --> 00:53:38,760 "Yes, I am okay with permanent physical or psychological damage. 1067 00:53:38,844 --> 00:53:39,928 ♪♪ 1068 00:53:40,012 --> 00:53:42,014 Even if they say that, 1069 00:53:42,097 --> 00:53:45,100 under the law, that cannot be valid. 1070 00:53:45,726 --> 00:53:49,563 But, the other aspect of it is that it's a violation of your consent. 1071 00:53:49,646 --> 00:53:52,149 If, for example, your mouth is covered, 1072 00:53:52,232 --> 00:53:53,859 so you cannot say the safe word, 1073 00:53:53,942 --> 00:53:56,695 or the circumstances in that situation 1074 00:53:56,778 --> 00:54:00,115 are such that you really couldn't reasonably be expected 1075 00:54:00,199 --> 00:54:02,659 to remember or be able to say a safe word, 1076 00:54:02,743 --> 00:54:07,164 but are acting in other ways that make it very clear that you've withdrawn consent. 1077 00:54:07,247 --> 00:54:10,083 [participant] Please, sir, I don't wanna do this anymore, sir! 1078 00:54:10,167 --> 00:54:12,794 Then, I think the proprietor may have a real problem. 1079 00:54:12,878 --> 00:54:15,881 [♪ dramatic music building] 1080 00:54:19,259 --> 00:54:20,928 [buzzing, zap] 1081 00:54:25,641 --> 00:54:28,352 I would love to see the manor just go away. 1082 00:54:28,894 --> 00:54:31,897 [Gabi] I would love to sit down with everybody that's done it 1083 00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:34,775 and just kind of band together and figure out how we can make change 1084 00:54:34,858 --> 00:54:36,318 and, like, stop him. 1085 00:54:36,401 --> 00:54:39,071 And even if jail isn't where he ends up, that's fine. 1086 00:54:39,154 --> 00:54:41,323 Like, he just shouldn't be doing what he's doing. 1087 00:54:41,406 --> 00:54:42,574 [buzzing] 1088 00:54:42,658 --> 00:54:46,328 [Kris] Once the fans are able to see Russ in his true form, 1089 00:54:47,913 --> 00:54:49,540 I'm hoping the following's gone. 1090 00:54:49,623 --> 00:54:52,167 And when the following's gone, the manor's gone. 1091 00:54:52,251 --> 00:54:55,254 -[♪ tense music playing] -[Brandon] The way that you stop him 1092 00:54:56,046 --> 00:54:59,967 is to make sure the truth is actually known. 1093 00:55:06,431 --> 00:55:08,100 [speaker 7] I wanted to do something. 1094 00:55:08,183 --> 00:55:09,893 But I didn't know what kind of trouble 1095 00:55:09,977 --> 00:55:12,855 I was gonna get into from getting into somebody's emails. 1096 00:55:18,068 --> 00:55:19,444 [speaker 7] Definitely. 1097 00:55:24,366 --> 00:55:26,159 It's gonna be worth it in the end. 1098 00:55:30,163 --> 00:55:32,833 One day, I was bored. I was looking up on the internet, 1099 00:55:32,916 --> 00:55:36,170 "Haunted houses that pay you for going through them." 1100 00:55:36,253 --> 00:55:38,964 And I seen this haunted house will give you $20,000 1101 00:55:39,047 --> 00:55:40,924 if you make it through it. 1102 00:55:41,008 --> 00:55:43,051 I just got married, I had an apartment, 1103 00:55:43,135 --> 00:55:45,929 and, um, I was like, "Man, $20,000 is a lot of money." 1104 00:55:46,013 --> 00:55:48,182 So, I could use that, and there's no way 1105 00:55:48,265 --> 00:55:49,933 I was not gonna get that $20,000. 1106 00:55:50,017 --> 00:55:52,227 -His hands are shaking. -[haunter] Oh, I know. 1107 00:55:52,311 --> 00:55:53,520 -He is shaking, isn't he? -[haunter] Oh, yeah. 1108 00:55:53,604 --> 00:55:56,607 -[haunter] Pop 'em one, Russ. -[mumbling, grunts] 1109 00:55:57,524 --> 00:56:00,027 [Russ] Come on. Follow my voice, let's go. 1110 00:56:00,110 --> 00:56:03,989 -[Justin groaning, panting] -[rattling] 1111 00:56:04,072 --> 00:56:07,117 -I'm suggesting you quit. -[Justin] Never. 1112 00:56:07,201 --> 00:56:10,954 -[Russ] Never. Never? He says never! -I was arguing with him back. 1113 00:56:11,038 --> 00:56:13,749 Like, I wasn't bein' passive. I wasn't bein' submissive to him. 1114 00:56:13,832 --> 00:56:15,417 And I think that's what really got him mad. 1115 00:56:15,501 --> 00:56:18,253 -Sleep first, then you can do it. -For the easiest-- 1116 00:56:18,337 --> 00:56:20,380 I don't fall for that crap. Just sleep. 1117 00:56:20,464 --> 00:56:24,051 -Okay, y-you need to be quiet. -No, I don't, dude. What a joke-- 1118 00:56:24,134 --> 00:56:26,303 -[Russ] You want a joke, huh? -[indistinct] 1119 00:56:26,386 --> 00:56:28,931 -You know what? You're done. -[Justin] Don't even do it, dude. No. 1120 00:56:29,014 --> 00:56:30,933 -Get the hell off me. -[Russ] Keep that camera on. 1121 00:56:31,016 --> 00:56:34,895 This is what we're seeing right now. You're out of it right now. You're done. 1122 00:56:34,978 --> 00:56:37,147 [Justin] I thought there was gonna be $20,000. 1123 00:56:37,231 --> 00:56:40,150 I thought there was gonna be a haunt. I wasted all my money 1124 00:56:40,234 --> 00:56:42,819 and my work days and all that going there, just to get humiliated. 1125 00:56:42,903 --> 00:56:44,947 What a freak show that was, right? 1126 00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:46,823 At that point I wasn't even mad about the money anymore, 1127 00:56:46,907 --> 00:56:47,908 it was just the embarrassment. 1128 00:56:47,991 --> 00:56:49,993 [♪ rhythmic dramatic music playing] 1129 00:56:52,663 --> 00:56:55,958 So, I started a Facebook page called, "McKamey Manor Exposed." 1130 00:56:56,041 --> 00:56:59,002 [♪ synth music playing] 1131 00:56:59,086 --> 00:57:01,630 I wanted it to be a place where people could actually come, 1132 00:57:01,713 --> 00:57:04,883 say what they need to say without having to worry about threats. 1133 00:57:10,138 --> 00:57:13,892 The biggest thing we found, though, was we actually got into Russ's emails. 1134 00:57:13,976 --> 00:57:15,978 [mouse scrolling] 1135 00:57:16,061 --> 00:57:19,565 Russ has a very old email service, and that's where he messed up. 1136 00:57:20,190 --> 00:57:23,110 The company that Russ has for the email has a phone number. 1137 00:57:23,193 --> 00:57:26,113 So, I called them, and I was like, "Hey, yeah, I my password." 1138 00:57:26,864 --> 00:57:30,158 So, they says, "Okay, what's your name?" "Russ McKamey." 1139 00:57:30,242 --> 00:57:32,870 He's like, "Okay, when's the last time you were on your email?" 1140 00:57:32,953 --> 00:57:34,663 And I was like, you know, I'm gonna make a good guess. 1141 00:57:34,746 --> 00:57:35,873 I'll say, "Oh it was yesterday." 1142 00:57:35,956 --> 00:57:37,499 She's like, "Oh, alright. Yeah, that was correct." 1143 00:57:37,583 --> 00:57:39,793 I changed the password for my email address, 1144 00:57:39,877 --> 00:57:42,629 and then I locked him out. We hit the jackpot. 1145 00:57:42,713 --> 00:57:45,799 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1146 00:57:48,427 --> 00:57:52,181 From his email, we found that he wasn't paying his taxes on his barn. 1147 00:57:53,724 --> 00:57:56,310 And Russ wrote this email back to the tax guy saying, 1148 00:57:56,393 --> 00:57:58,979 "This manor is fake. Everything I'm saying is fake." 1149 00:57:59,062 --> 00:58:02,691 "Russ, I talked to my lawyer today." I got Russ here with his tax problems. 1150 00:58:02,774 --> 00:58:06,278 This is from Russ's son: "You absolutely disgust me." 1151 00:58:06,361 --> 00:58:09,489 [typing] 1152 00:58:09,573 --> 00:58:13,368 This guy's really obsessed and, like, really going after his girlfriend. 1153 00:58:13,452 --> 00:58:15,954 "What you did was absolutely unacceptable." 1154 00:58:16,038 --> 00:58:18,999 So I took those emails, I took screenshots, and I showed those. 1155 00:58:19,082 --> 00:58:21,376 Here's the proof right here. This is, like, something 1156 00:58:21,460 --> 00:58:25,255 you're never gonna see anywhere else. I put everything on my Facebook page, 1157 00:58:25,339 --> 00:58:27,466 And I was like, "You guys gotta tell your stories." 1158 00:58:27,549 --> 00:58:30,552 -[typing] -[♪ dramatic crescendo] 1159 00:58:31,261 --> 00:58:32,930 All these other groups popped up. 1160 00:58:33,013 --> 00:58:35,015 ♪♪ 1161 00:58:35,098 --> 00:58:37,684 [Kris] People started posting stuff online 1162 00:58:37,768 --> 00:58:40,145 that Russ definitely didn't want anybody to see. 1163 00:58:40,604 --> 00:58:44,441 -Guys, he will stuff you in a freezer full of water upside down until you tap. 1164 00:58:44,525 --> 00:58:48,195 [victim] [over phone] He got his claws so onto my brain. 1165 00:58:48,654 --> 00:58:51,740 Once I got away from it, I was like, I'm just gonna expose him. 1166 00:58:51,823 --> 00:58:54,201 This is where he's reading over the waiver. 1167 00:58:54,284 --> 00:58:55,619 [video chatter] 1168 00:58:55,702 --> 00:58:57,996 So, I posted the reaction videos on YouTube. 1169 00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:00,415 I was very surprised at how many people saw it. 1170 00:59:00,499 --> 00:59:04,962 I was in water, and I had, like, this much air to breathe. 1171 00:59:05,045 --> 00:59:08,257 Fast forward to now, it's, like, two-point-something million views. 1172 00:59:08,340 --> 00:59:12,469 [Brandon] There's so much drama in these online communities, right? 1173 00:59:12,553 --> 00:59:15,806 It's the McKamey Manor Facebook group people 1174 00:59:15,889 --> 00:59:16,890 fighting these people, 1175 00:59:16,974 --> 00:59:18,767 and then those people are fighting against these people. 1176 00:59:18,851 --> 00:59:22,354 [overlapping swearing, yelling] 1177 00:59:22,437 --> 00:59:24,481 [Justin] If you go on his Facebook page, 1178 00:59:24,565 --> 00:59:26,191 it's a straight-up cult. 1179 00:59:26,275 --> 00:59:28,527 They are obsessed with him. Like, they don't care. 1180 00:59:28,610 --> 00:59:32,072 Russ could say the sky is green, and they'll say, "Yes, sir, it is green." 1181 00:59:33,323 --> 00:59:35,826 They will go after the people 1182 00:59:35,909 --> 00:59:38,245 who they perceive as one of their enemies 1183 00:59:38,328 --> 00:59:41,039 or one of their haters with everything that they have. 1184 00:59:41,123 --> 00:59:43,458 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1185 00:59:43,542 --> 00:59:45,627 [Gabi] He would send people to the haters. 1186 00:59:45,711 --> 00:59:49,089 He called everyone a hater that didn't agree with what he was doing, 1187 00:59:49,173 --> 00:59:52,885 and he basically encouraged them to, like, bully, destroy someone on the internet. 1188 00:59:53,802 --> 00:59:56,972 I just got jumped on by all these people from Russ or whatever, 1189 00:59:57,055 --> 00:59:58,807 and they just tore me apart. 1190 00:59:59,308 --> 01:00:02,269 One guy text me a picture of where I work at. 1191 01:00:02,352 --> 01:00:04,229 "You're gonna get a call from us," and, 1192 01:00:04,313 --> 01:00:06,815 you know, "See your online activities of what you're doin'." 1193 01:00:06,899 --> 01:00:09,193 It's not Russ doin' this. It's his followers. 1194 01:00:09,276 --> 01:00:12,863 People started showing personal pictures of me on the internet. 1195 01:00:12,946 --> 01:00:16,533 Then went to phone numbers, then went to addresses. 1196 01:00:16,617 --> 01:00:20,454 I would get anonymous emails that were saying some godawful things. 1197 01:00:20,537 --> 01:00:23,373 Those are all hate groups. Those aren't the real deal. 1198 01:00:24,124 --> 01:00:25,125 [mouse scrolling] 1199 01:00:26,418 --> 01:00:29,880 He was very much like cult leader man. 1200 01:00:29,963 --> 01:00:32,758 Like, "Listen to what I'm saying. This is what's good for you. 1201 01:00:32,841 --> 01:00:35,010 "This is what a haunted house experience is. 1202 01:00:35,093 --> 01:00:37,346 "If anyone tells you otherwise, they're wrong. 1203 01:00:37,429 --> 01:00:39,056 "And if you believe that, you're stupid. 1204 01:00:39,348 --> 01:00:41,433 "If you're not with me, you're against me. 1205 01:00:41,517 --> 01:00:43,352 And I will make your life a living hell." 1206 01:00:45,479 --> 01:00:49,149 I started asking questions, and that's what Russ does not want. 1207 01:00:49,233 --> 01:00:51,610 That dude is a psychopath! 1208 01:00:51,693 --> 01:00:55,989 -I don't even know why you would do it. -[speaking foreign language] 1209 01:00:56,073 --> 01:00:58,742 There's a whole big group of people, 1210 01:00:58,825 --> 01:01:00,953 and all they're trying to do is expose him. 1211 01:01:01,620 --> 01:01:04,998 Russ McKamey and the actors have done some things 1212 01:01:05,082 --> 01:01:07,000 that we need-- they need to answer for. 1213 01:01:07,084 --> 01:01:10,295 Reason he's not in jail is because technically no one has been un-alived yet. 1214 01:01:10,379 --> 01:01:13,590 Russ actually owes hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxes. 1215 01:01:13,674 --> 01:01:18,804 Some neighbors actually even called 911, thinking that there had been an abduction. 1216 01:01:19,054 --> 01:01:21,473 [news anchor 1] The town turned against McKamey Manor. 1217 01:01:21,557 --> 01:01:24,518 [news anchor 2] There's already a national movement against Russ. 1218 01:01:24,601 --> 01:01:28,021 We need to keep fighting the good fight and, uh, doin' what we're doin'. 1219 01:01:28,105 --> 01:01:29,147 [beeping] 1220 01:01:29,231 --> 01:01:30,524 [news anchor 3] More than 13,000... 1221 01:01:30,607 --> 01:01:32,943 -[news anchor 4] 18,000... -[news anchor 5] 56,000 people. 1222 01:01:33,026 --> 01:01:36,905 ...signing a Change.org petition to have McKamey Manor closed. 1223 01:01:36,989 --> 01:01:38,907 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1224 01:01:38,991 --> 01:01:40,617 [Kris] The petitions were comin'. 1225 01:01:40,701 --> 01:01:42,911 [news anchor 6] Continuing to get more signatures. 1226 01:01:45,873 --> 01:01:48,667 [Kris] Now, you got the media's attention. 1227 01:01:49,126 --> 01:01:51,962 You are getting reporters wanting to show up on site. 1228 01:01:52,045 --> 01:01:55,257 When you're running this big charade 1229 01:01:55,340 --> 01:01:57,718 of a haunt that's supposedly there, 1230 01:01:58,594 --> 01:02:00,554 how do you not show them that stuff? 1231 01:02:01,305 --> 01:02:04,683 So, Russ ran with the petitions to shut down 1232 01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:08,645 and said, "Oh, they got the best of us. The Manor's down." 1233 01:02:11,523 --> 01:02:13,442 ♪♪ 1234 01:02:15,402 --> 01:02:17,654 [Russ] Right now, we're dismantling the manor. 1235 01:02:19,907 --> 01:02:21,825 He literally packed up very quickly 1236 01:02:21,909 --> 01:02:24,328 and booked it across the country somewhere else. 1237 01:02:24,411 --> 01:02:26,788 [birds chirping] 1238 01:02:31,210 --> 01:02:33,921 [Kris] Russ is working. He works at Walmart. 1239 01:02:36,006 --> 01:02:38,008 I think he was just doing it 1240 01:02:38,091 --> 01:02:39,968 because there was a lull 1241 01:02:40,052 --> 01:02:42,513 at getting people to the manor. 1242 01:02:42,596 --> 01:02:47,351 Russ, the guy that had McKamey Manor, has moved to around here 1243 01:02:47,434 --> 01:02:49,937 where I live the last couple years. 1244 01:02:50,020 --> 01:02:52,523 Well, I just found out on Facebook that apparently, 1245 01:02:52,606 --> 01:02:54,858 he works at Walmart in the Garden Center. 1246 01:02:54,942 --> 01:02:58,237 Wait, you stay. If I need you, holler for back up. 1247 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,281 This is where this man has decided to relocate. 1248 01:03:01,698 --> 01:03:03,408 -How are you? -[Russ] Hey, how you doing? 1249 01:03:03,492 --> 01:03:04,701 Want a bag, miss? 1250 01:03:05,744 --> 01:03:06,787 [scanner beeps] 1251 01:03:09,331 --> 01:03:11,667 Y'all, that was fucking him, 1252 01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:14,211 and it just checked me out. I'm shaking. 1253 01:03:14,294 --> 01:03:16,296 I didn't-- I thought I was gonna be all confrontational, 1254 01:03:16,380 --> 01:03:18,215 and I thought I was gonna, like, say this, 1255 01:03:18,298 --> 01:03:19,758 but it's like when you're in the fucking-- 1256 01:03:19,842 --> 01:03:22,636 When you're actually in the presence of a sociopath, 1257 01:03:22,719 --> 01:03:24,972 and you know it, 1258 01:03:25,055 --> 01:03:27,099 bro, you lose all that confidence. 1259 01:03:27,182 --> 01:03:31,520 Oh, my God, I'm literally shaking. [sighs] 1260 01:03:32,729 --> 01:03:35,732 [♪ creepy music playing] 1261 01:03:37,442 --> 01:03:40,445 [Kris] There's three types of Russ that you should know. 1262 01:03:41,196 --> 01:03:44,867 There is the fun-loving Russ that the followers love. 1263 01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:47,202 -That's a front. -[mouthing] Help. 1264 01:03:47,286 --> 01:03:49,872 You have the scary Russ who's going through the show 1265 01:03:49,955 --> 01:03:51,665 you're dealing with. That's a front. 1266 01:03:51,832 --> 01:03:54,501 And then, you have the real Russ. 1267 01:03:55,919 --> 01:03:59,798 He has so much wrong going on in his head, 1268 01:03:59,882 --> 01:04:02,968 and-and it comes out in the haunt. 1269 01:04:03,051 --> 01:04:06,054 [static] 1270 01:04:06,847 --> 01:04:09,766 [on TV] You know, it's no joke in here. I mean, people think that, 1271 01:04:09,850 --> 01:04:11,560 well, you know, it's a home haunt. 1272 01:04:11,643 --> 01:04:14,146 But, I'm telling ya. It's scary. 1273 01:04:15,272 --> 01:04:17,274 [Kris] Russ needs to get help, 1274 01:04:18,859 --> 01:04:20,986 or he's gonna keep going till it's too far. 1275 01:04:21,069 --> 01:04:24,072 [♪ pulsing music playing] 1276 01:04:25,824 --> 01:04:26,825 ♪♪ 1277 01:04:32,247 --> 01:04:33,749 [Russ] I'm back. 1278 01:04:34,958 --> 01:04:37,586 [sing-songy] ♪ I'm back, I'm back, I'm back ♪ 1279 01:04:37,669 --> 01:04:41,256 ♪ Anybody there? Anybody there? ♪ 1280 01:04:41,340 --> 01:04:42,549 [♪ dramatic crescendo] 1281 01:04:42,633 --> 01:04:44,635 [inaudible] 1282 01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:49,348 -You better start begging right now! -I'm begging right now. 1283 01:04:49,431 --> 01:04:51,183 I don't-- I don't wanna go anymore. I'm done. 1284 01:04:52,142 --> 01:04:54,937 [Kris] Russ is not quitting. He kept it going. 1285 01:04:55,479 --> 01:04:59,316 Now, there aren't actors. You are just with Russ going through. 1286 01:04:59,399 --> 01:05:03,904 You are getting a very dangerous experience. 1287 01:05:03,987 --> 01:05:07,950 [Gabi] His tours now, at this point, he's just doing it to hurt people 1288 01:05:08,033 --> 01:05:09,618 and to prove a point to us, 1289 01:05:09,701 --> 01:05:11,954 to everyone else that, like, talked out on him. 1290 01:05:12,037 --> 01:05:15,249 Like a, "I'm gonna get back at you and show you that I can still do this, 1291 01:05:15,332 --> 01:05:17,209 people still wanna be tortured by me." 1292 01:05:17,292 --> 01:05:20,212 -[muffled whimpering, yelling] -[Russ] Are you done? 1293 01:05:20,295 --> 01:05:22,172 Back in the day, he had a haunted house 1294 01:05:22,256 --> 01:05:24,091 and now what it is, is definitely not a haunt. 1295 01:05:24,174 --> 01:05:25,634 [panicked breathing] 1296 01:05:25,717 --> 01:05:29,012 It's pretty much, you know, Russ in his yard messin' with you. 1297 01:05:29,096 --> 01:05:30,848 [retching, gagging] 1298 01:05:31,598 --> 01:05:33,684 [Kris] You know, you're with a guy by himself. 1299 01:05:33,767 --> 01:05:36,228 Everything he does is justified in his head. 1300 01:05:36,311 --> 01:05:38,438 There is no limits. 1301 01:05:38,522 --> 01:05:39,731 No, no! 1302 01:05:39,815 --> 01:05:42,818 [creaking] 1303 01:05:44,528 --> 01:05:47,698 [projector whirring] 1304 01:05:48,323 --> 01:05:50,576 [Melissa] I live in such a small town. 1305 01:05:50,659 --> 01:05:52,703 And I'm basically a nobody. 1306 01:05:52,786 --> 01:05:55,163 And, you know, that's how I felt about myself. 1307 01:05:55,247 --> 01:05:56,540 ♪♪ 1308 01:05:56,623 --> 01:06:00,002 During my first tour, you know, you had all these signs, 1309 01:06:00,794 --> 01:06:03,797 but, at the time, I didn't wanna deal with that. 1310 01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,467 I'd just seen a nice person 1311 01:06:07,551 --> 01:06:11,388 that was giving me everything I needed at the time. 1312 01:06:11,471 --> 01:06:13,056 I just felt like I got 1313 01:06:13,140 --> 01:06:15,976 really taken easy on, looking back. 1314 01:06:16,059 --> 01:06:18,854 I was nobody before any of this, 1315 01:06:18,937 --> 01:06:21,106 and I'd wake up with a million messages 1316 01:06:21,190 --> 01:06:23,150 from all these people who supported me. 1317 01:06:23,233 --> 01:06:26,612 Like, me. The nobody that was once before, 1318 01:06:26,695 --> 01:06:30,032 now has a million people hyping her up 1319 01:06:30,115 --> 01:06:32,618 and just being friendly. 1320 01:06:32,701 --> 01:06:35,204 And [laughs] it was just life changing, 1321 01:06:35,287 --> 01:06:37,122 and I didn't want it to end. 1322 01:06:37,706 --> 01:06:41,251 I wasn't anticipating coming back, 1323 01:06:41,335 --> 01:06:43,504 but he was up on my phone, 1324 01:06:43,587 --> 01:06:45,464 texting or calling or video chatting. 1325 01:06:45,547 --> 01:06:47,674 Like, I didn't even have time to even think about 1326 01:06:47,758 --> 01:06:49,843 what had happened and what I went through. 1327 01:06:49,927 --> 01:06:51,220 ♪♪ 1328 01:06:51,303 --> 01:06:54,348 [Kris] I remember when Melissa Everly was going through it. 1329 01:06:54,431 --> 01:06:56,725 She is Russ' type. 1330 01:06:58,602 --> 01:07:01,605 I met Melissa, reaching out and trying 1331 01:07:01,688 --> 01:07:03,732 to talk her out of going to McKamey Manor, 1332 01:07:03,815 --> 01:07:06,151 and she was drinkin' the Kool-Aid. 1333 01:07:06,235 --> 01:07:09,238 She was buying in and listenin' to Russ. 1334 01:07:09,321 --> 01:07:11,990 Russ was the good guy. All of us were just crazies. 1335 01:07:12,074 --> 01:07:15,661 And the first conversation we had, it wasn't a great one. 1336 01:07:15,744 --> 01:07:19,665 She thought I was some loon that was some hater trying to talk her out of it. 1337 01:07:21,124 --> 01:07:24,253 [Melissa] Russ was dangling everything over my head. 1338 01:07:24,336 --> 01:07:26,088 "Look, you're the Abyss Queen." 1339 01:07:26,171 --> 01:07:29,049 He gave me a nickname and rolled with it 1340 01:07:29,132 --> 01:07:31,093 and had everybody calling me that. 1341 01:07:31,176 --> 01:07:33,303 And that's how people knew me. He was like, 1342 01:07:33,387 --> 01:07:35,889 "Oh, well, think of your fans." 1343 01:07:35,973 --> 01:07:38,809 I wanted to beat the thing and be the first to complete it. 1344 01:07:39,601 --> 01:07:40,811 He knew that. 1345 01:07:40,894 --> 01:07:41,979 ♪♪ 1346 01:07:42,062 --> 01:07:44,398 One day, he messaged me and was like, 1347 01:07:44,481 --> 01:07:46,775 "Hey, can you make it for a tour tomorrow?" 1348 01:07:46,859 --> 01:07:50,445 [birds chirping] 1349 01:07:50,529 --> 01:07:52,781 [insects chirping] 1350 01:07:52,865 --> 01:07:56,159 I drive down for the second tour. 1351 01:07:56,702 --> 01:07:57,828 [static] 1352 01:07:57,911 --> 01:08:01,623 Russ ends up coming over to the hotel room. 1353 01:08:02,207 --> 01:08:04,459 And I knew from the YouTube videos, 1354 01:08:04,543 --> 01:08:07,671 this isn't the first time he's been in somebody's hotel room. 1355 01:08:07,754 --> 01:08:10,757 And so, in my mind, it's harmless. 1356 01:08:10,841 --> 01:08:14,595 He was coming over to instruct me on what to do for the evening. 1357 01:08:14,678 --> 01:08:18,640 And he gives me a list of things that I have to do. 1358 01:08:18,724 --> 01:08:21,310 Lunges, singing, pushups, sit-ups. 1359 01:08:21,393 --> 01:08:22,853 ♪♪ 1360 01:08:22,936 --> 01:08:25,689 The conversation ended up taking a turn 1361 01:08:25,772 --> 01:08:27,608 kind of for the worst. 1362 01:08:27,691 --> 01:08:30,194 He started going into 1363 01:08:30,277 --> 01:08:33,739 his sexual history with past contestants, 1364 01:08:33,822 --> 01:08:36,116 talking about how he liked 1365 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:38,702 a very competitive, athletic girl, 1366 01:08:38,785 --> 01:08:42,623 but he wants a woman that's gonna submit to him when it comes to 1367 01:08:43,540 --> 01:08:46,376 being aggressive during sex. 1368 01:08:47,169 --> 01:08:49,922 In that moment, I was feeling very nervous. 1369 01:08:51,006 --> 01:08:54,468 Like, I'm just there. I'm barely participating in conversation, 1370 01:08:54,551 --> 01:08:56,553 because I don't really know what to say. 1371 01:08:56,637 --> 01:08:59,306 I don't wanna give any leading responses 1372 01:08:59,389 --> 01:09:01,683 because I just wanted to go through the manor. 1373 01:09:01,767 --> 01:09:05,729 I was tired. I was exhausted. I was willing to listen to him, 1374 01:09:05,812 --> 01:09:08,857 but I-I was also scared that 1375 01:09:08,941 --> 01:09:10,442 if I'm propositioned, 1376 01:09:10,526 --> 01:09:13,695 I'm not gonna be able to have this experience if I decline. 1377 01:09:14,321 --> 01:09:16,281 And I was scared to what happens next. 1378 01:09:16,365 --> 01:09:19,243 Wh-Whatever I do, and all of this is ripped from me, 1379 01:09:19,326 --> 01:09:22,454 you know, what kind of monster is he gonna make me out to be? 1380 01:09:22,538 --> 01:09:24,039 If this is perfectly fine, 1381 01:09:24,122 --> 01:09:26,625 and he's done it with all these other contestants, 1382 01:09:26,708 --> 01:09:29,169 is everybody gonna make me a laughingstock? 1383 01:09:29,253 --> 01:09:31,630 You know, what's gonna happen? 1384 01:09:32,339 --> 01:09:34,424 So, he ends up leaving the room, 1385 01:09:34,508 --> 01:09:36,802 and I stay up doing these lives. 1386 01:09:36,885 --> 01:09:39,805 By the time my tour starts, um, it's-- 1387 01:09:39,888 --> 01:09:42,808 I'll be up for 26 hours. 1388 01:09:42,891 --> 01:09:44,560 Happy Sunday. 1389 01:09:46,061 --> 01:09:49,898 That's right. Happy Sunday, Michelle. Happy Sunday. 1390 01:09:53,485 --> 01:09:55,487 Gotta keep my eyes on the road, so... 1391 01:09:57,906 --> 01:09:59,783 I do have someone I want you to see. 1392 01:10:02,369 --> 01:10:04,997 [Melissa] My brain was like mashed potatoes 1393 01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:07,082 when he came and picked me up, 1394 01:10:07,165 --> 01:10:09,543 and we headed out 1395 01:10:09,626 --> 01:10:11,879 to go for my next tour. 1396 01:10:11,962 --> 01:10:14,006 It's just me and Russ on this tour. 1397 01:10:14,089 --> 01:10:16,091 [Russ] Go ahead and talk to 'em. 1398 01:10:16,175 --> 01:10:18,677 [sighs] 1399 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,929 -Alright, everyone. -[Russ] She's not near as bubbly 1400 01:10:21,013 --> 01:10:22,264 as she normally is. 1401 01:10:22,347 --> 01:10:23,432 -I'm tired. -[Russ] Tired. 1402 01:10:23,515 --> 01:10:25,392 ♪♪ 1403 01:10:25,475 --> 01:10:26,977 [Melissa] He had no helpers. 1404 01:10:27,060 --> 01:10:30,063 [♪ heartbeat-type rhythm playing] 1405 01:10:33,609 --> 01:10:35,986 We have our, our young lady here. 1406 01:10:37,196 --> 01:10:39,907 Ms. Everly is doing awesome. 1407 01:10:41,033 --> 01:10:43,035 Killing it today. Killing it. 1408 01:10:44,369 --> 01:10:45,996 [birds cawing] 1409 01:10:46,079 --> 01:10:47,915 Why don't you come on out? 1410 01:10:52,377 --> 01:10:54,838 Okay, that's good right there. Stay where you are. 1411 01:10:54,922 --> 01:10:56,590 Through the bamboo run 1412 01:10:56,673 --> 01:10:59,551 is when he started, like, whispering in my ear 1413 01:10:59,635 --> 01:11:02,095 and, like, complimenting my neck, 1414 01:11:02,179 --> 01:11:05,682 and kind of grabbing my neck and being sexual. 1415 01:11:05,766 --> 01:11:08,477 [Russ] You know what you need? You need a little color. 1416 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:09,895 Would you like a little color? 1417 01:11:09,978 --> 01:11:11,980 [Melissa inaudible] 1418 01:11:12,064 --> 01:11:13,565 [Russ] Tilt your head back. 1419 01:11:15,567 --> 01:11:18,779 [Melissa] But, in that moment, I'm like, "Oh, this is part of the tour. 1420 01:11:18,862 --> 01:11:20,864 You know, this is part of what he does." 1421 01:11:22,824 --> 01:11:24,368 [scoffs] I was dead to the world. 1422 01:11:24,451 --> 01:11:27,663 By the end of it, I was over 30 hours no sleep. 1423 01:11:27,746 --> 01:11:29,665 I was beyond sleep deprived. 1424 01:11:29,748 --> 01:11:32,709 [Russ] You feel like a noodle, don't ya? How's your brain? 1425 01:11:32,793 --> 01:11:34,920 Seriously, how's your brain feel right now? 1426 01:11:35,003 --> 01:11:37,923 [sighs] All kinds of messed up 1427 01:11:38,006 --> 01:11:39,550 in every direction possible. 1428 01:11:39,633 --> 01:11:41,635 [Russ] This is gonna suck. 1429 01:11:42,386 --> 01:11:44,638 -[sighs] -[dripping] 1430 01:11:44,721 --> 01:11:45,722 [whimpers] 1431 01:11:51,103 --> 01:11:53,981 [Melissa] I remember at that point, I had fell asleep, 1432 01:11:54,064 --> 01:11:57,818 and he told me it was fine, "Go to sleep." He'd covered me up with towels. 1433 01:11:57,901 --> 01:12:00,445 [wind blowing] 1434 01:12:00,529 --> 01:12:02,447 [quietly] Come on, everybody. Come on in. 1435 01:12:02,531 --> 01:12:04,700 [birds chirping] 1436 01:12:04,783 --> 01:12:06,285 Talkin' quiet because 1437 01:12:07,452 --> 01:12:10,747 tryin' to get Ms. Everly to go to sleep. 1438 01:12:11,206 --> 01:12:13,125 Well, 1439 01:12:13,208 --> 01:12:15,169 sometime after the tour, 1440 01:12:15,252 --> 01:12:17,629 and I-I'm gonna fast forward for a moment 1441 01:12:17,713 --> 01:12:21,550 because I asked him how the footage went. 1442 01:12:22,301 --> 01:12:24,678 And he was like, "Well, there was this one time 1443 01:12:24,761 --> 01:12:27,306 that I didn't get the footage I really wish I had." 1444 01:12:27,389 --> 01:12:30,392 [♪ dramatic sting] 1445 01:12:34,646 --> 01:12:37,107 [Russ breathing] 1446 01:12:37,191 --> 01:12:39,610 What happened? What did he do when I was asleep? 1447 01:12:39,693 --> 01:12:41,153 Because he never answered me. 1448 01:12:41,236 --> 01:12:43,864 And I think I deserve the right to know. 1449 01:12:43,947 --> 01:12:46,742 Like, what did he mean? What footage did he miss? 1450 01:12:46,825 --> 01:12:49,411 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1451 01:12:49,494 --> 01:12:53,165 That's always going to haunt me. [crying] I will question myself that 1452 01:12:54,750 --> 01:12:56,668 to the day I die. 1453 01:12:56,752 --> 01:12:58,378 'Cause I don't want, 1454 01:12:58,462 --> 01:13:01,256 and I never have wanted, to do anything with Russ. 1455 01:13:03,217 --> 01:13:06,595 And it-- just the fact that that may have been a possibility, 1456 01:13:06,678 --> 01:13:08,180 disgusts me. 1457 01:13:08,263 --> 01:13:11,475 He is a cruel, fucking disgusting person. 1458 01:13:13,685 --> 01:13:15,687 [sharp inhale] 1459 01:13:16,271 --> 01:13:18,732 [Russ] [on TV] Good. Put your head back a little bit. 1460 01:13:19,733 --> 01:13:21,276 Enjoy that sun while you can. 1461 01:13:22,986 --> 01:13:25,489 -You got it right in there good? -[Melissa] Mm-hmm. 1462 01:13:27,449 --> 01:13:31,495 There's always gonna be that doubt. There's always gonna be that doubt. 1463 01:13:35,624 --> 01:13:38,126 We have a tired little puppy here. 1464 01:13:41,213 --> 01:13:44,216 ♪♪ 1465 01:13:49,388 --> 01:13:52,224 [Melissa] Everything finally adds up. 1466 01:13:52,307 --> 01:13:55,352 It adds up that Russ is just 1467 01:13:55,435 --> 01:13:59,398 a narcissistic, manipulative piece of fuck. 1468 01:13:59,606 --> 01:14:01,692 [insects chirping] 1469 01:14:01,775 --> 01:14:04,695 Don't learn the hard way, like we have. 1470 01:14:10,242 --> 01:14:12,119 [static hissing] 1471 01:14:12,202 --> 01:14:14,079 [♪ tense music playing] 1472 01:14:14,162 --> 01:14:18,083 [W.P.] I love getting scared. I wanna populate our earth with more art 1473 01:14:18,166 --> 01:14:20,836 and make it horror. You know what? 1474 01:14:20,919 --> 01:14:23,213 Keep doing it, you know? 'Cause eventually, 1475 01:14:23,297 --> 01:14:26,341 this could replace movies for some people, and it does now. 1476 01:14:26,425 --> 01:14:29,803 [projector whirring] 1477 01:14:30,554 --> 01:14:32,556 [Melissa] I wanted to find another haunt 1478 01:14:32,639 --> 01:14:34,892 because I wanted to fill that void. 1479 01:14:34,975 --> 01:14:37,769 I wanted to find something that can help me cope, 1480 01:14:37,853 --> 01:14:40,689 to give me that reminder, "Hey, if you went through this, 1481 01:14:40,772 --> 01:14:42,232 you can go through anything." 1482 01:14:42,316 --> 01:14:45,986 Because the purpose isn't to sexually molest people. 1483 01:14:46,069 --> 01:14:49,114 Th-The purpose is not to do anything untoward to somebody 1484 01:14:49,198 --> 01:14:52,284 or to make them a victim. It's to make you grow. 1485 01:14:52,367 --> 01:14:55,704 That little girl, that itch, is still very much inside of me. 1486 01:14:55,787 --> 01:14:58,373 I've just had to not scratch the itch for a while, 1487 01:14:58,457 --> 01:15:00,042 to recover from the manor. 1488 01:15:00,792 --> 01:15:01,793 [♪ dramatic sting] 1489 01:15:08,967 --> 01:15:11,595 I'm telling you. You wanna do somethin' 1490 01:15:11,678 --> 01:15:13,514 taboo and out there? 1491 01:15:14,890 --> 01:15:16,725 There's places that'll help you. 1492 01:15:16,808 --> 01:15:18,894 ♪♪ 1493 01:15:18,977 --> 01:15:21,230 [producer] Tell us what you're about to go do. 1494 01:15:21,313 --> 01:15:24,066 [Melissa] I'm about to go do Miasma. 1495 01:15:24,441 --> 01:15:26,944 -[♪ dramatic sting] -[tech] I'm at the fog machine. 1496 01:15:27,027 --> 01:15:29,112 [bell ringing] 1497 01:15:29,196 --> 01:15:31,406 Give it a longer pause between that. 1498 01:15:31,490 --> 01:15:35,452 Diversity is really the norm. People have very diverse genetic makeups, 1499 01:15:35,536 --> 01:15:37,788 people want different things, 1500 01:15:37,871 --> 01:15:40,165 people have different psychological traits. 1501 01:15:40,249 --> 01:15:42,000 So, we need to recognize 1502 01:15:42,084 --> 01:15:45,003 that there are people who need challenges, 1503 01:15:45,087 --> 01:15:47,631 they need risk, they need sensation. 1504 01:15:47,714 --> 01:15:50,634 And we need to make sure that those spaces are available, 1505 01:15:50,717 --> 01:15:54,263 so people can get what they need within the bounds of the law. 1506 01:16:05,566 --> 01:16:08,569 [♪ tense crescendo] 1507 01:16:08,652 --> 01:16:10,445 [knocking] 1508 01:16:10,529 --> 01:16:11,530 [♪ dramatic sting] 1509 01:16:12,030 --> 01:16:13,115 [knocking] 1510 01:16:13,198 --> 01:16:14,199 [door opens] 1511 01:16:17,327 --> 01:16:19,413 -[door shuts] -[muttering] 1512 01:16:19,496 --> 01:16:21,790 [haunter] Turn around, turn around. 1513 01:16:22,875 --> 01:16:24,293 Sign when you're ready. 1514 01:16:24,376 --> 01:16:26,920 [♪ tense music playing] 1515 01:16:29,423 --> 01:16:32,301 [haunter] When this bell rings, you're no longer Melissa. 1516 01:16:32,384 --> 01:16:34,219 You become Jay. Do you understand? 1517 01:16:35,304 --> 01:16:37,973 -Who do you become when this bell rings? -[Melissa] Jay. 1518 01:16:38,056 --> 01:16:40,601 -[haunter] What is the safety word? -[Brandon] Safety. 1519 01:16:40,684 --> 01:16:44,146 [haunter] Do you understand you can say this at any time for any reason, 1520 01:16:44,229 --> 01:16:46,398 -your show will stop? -[Brandon] Yes. 1521 01:16:46,481 --> 01:16:49,902 -[haunter] What happens when this rings? -I'm Jay. 1522 01:16:49,985 --> 01:16:51,695 [bell rings] 1523 01:16:51,778 --> 01:16:53,655 [haunter] Fucking run, Jay! Keep going! 1524 01:16:53,739 --> 01:16:54,781 [incoherent shouting] 1525 01:16:54,865 --> 01:16:56,867 [♪ tense crescendo] 1526 01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:59,870 [distorted voices] Follow it, follow it! Follow it forward. 1527 01:17:01,538 --> 01:17:03,707 [camera shutter snapping] 1528 01:17:03,790 --> 01:17:05,125 [plastic stretching] 1529 01:17:05,209 --> 01:17:08,003 [inaudible] 1530 01:17:08,086 --> 01:17:11,006 [♪ mysterious music playing] 1531 01:17:15,511 --> 01:17:17,137 -[electrical zap] -[scream, groan] 1532 01:17:17,221 --> 01:17:20,015 -[bag crinkling] -[tape stretching] 1533 01:17:22,518 --> 01:17:23,602 [blast] 1534 01:17:28,357 --> 01:17:30,192 -[click, hit] -[yells] 1535 01:17:30,526 --> 01:17:32,736 [screaming] 1536 01:17:32,819 --> 01:17:34,738 -[fire, hit] -[screams] 1537 01:17:34,821 --> 01:17:38,325 [groaning] 1538 01:17:38,408 --> 01:17:40,619 -[gunshot] -[screaming] 1539 01:17:41,286 --> 01:17:44,706 Where's the cliff edge, right? 1540 01:17:44,790 --> 01:17:47,417 -[panting] -Or have I already gone over it? 1541 01:17:47,501 --> 01:17:48,502 [hyperventilating] 1542 01:17:49,044 --> 01:17:52,965 [haunter] No. No. Stay down. Stay down. Stay down, stay down. 1543 01:17:53,048 --> 01:17:56,051 -Hey. Hey, you okay? -[hyperventilating continues] 1544 01:17:56,134 --> 01:17:58,971 -You okay? -[Brandon] [panting] Yeah. 1545 01:17:59,054 --> 01:18:01,473 -[haunter] Do you wanna keep going? -[Brandon] Yes. 1546 01:18:01,557 --> 01:18:04,059 Look at these scars. I'm bleeding. 1547 01:18:05,060 --> 01:18:07,354 My heart was beating through my chest. 1548 01:18:07,938 --> 01:18:08,939 [gunshot] 1549 01:18:09,022 --> 01:18:10,607 It's freakin' awesome. 1550 01:18:10,691 --> 01:18:13,110 What the fuck is wrong with you?! 1551 01:18:14,444 --> 01:18:17,322 -[Melissa crying] -[haunter] Tell her you fuckin' hate her. 1552 01:18:17,406 --> 01:18:20,576 -[Melissa] I fucking hate you! -[haunter] Tell her you wish she was dead. 1553 01:18:20,659 --> 01:18:23,245 -[Melissa] I wish you were dead! -[haunter] Scream it! 1554 01:18:23,662 --> 01:18:25,789 [♪ quiet music playing] 1555 01:18:25,873 --> 01:18:28,917 [inaudible] 1556 01:18:30,377 --> 01:18:33,338 [haunter And Melissa] Dead! Dead! Dead! Dead! Dead! 1557 01:18:33,422 --> 01:18:36,383 Dead! Dead! Dead! 1558 01:18:36,466 --> 01:18:40,179 [haunters] Who are you?! Who the fuck are you?! Who the fuck are you?! 1559 01:18:40,262 --> 01:18:42,139 Answer, answer! Answer! Answer me! 1560 01:18:42,222 --> 01:18:45,475 I already have an anxiety brain that can kind of make up scenarios. 1561 01:18:45,559 --> 01:18:48,604 So, if someone makes up a scenario that's crazier than me, 1562 01:18:48,687 --> 01:18:50,314 -[screams] -I, like, give them props for it. 1563 01:18:50,397 --> 01:18:52,649 ♪♪ 1564 01:18:55,819 --> 01:18:57,738 -[taser zaps] -[pained screaming] 1565 01:18:57,821 --> 01:19:01,742 -[haunters] [chanting] Jay, Jay, Jay. -[Brandon screaming] 1566 01:19:01,825 --> 01:19:03,368 [Brandon] Fuck! 1567 01:19:03,452 --> 01:19:06,246 -[haunter] Who are you supposed to be? -Jay. 1568 01:19:06,330 --> 01:19:08,373 -[haunter] Louder. -Jay! 1569 01:19:08,457 --> 01:19:10,167 -[haunter] Scream it! -Jay! 1570 01:19:10,250 --> 01:19:11,960 -[haunter] One more time! -Jay! 1571 01:19:12,044 --> 01:19:15,214 -[haunter] Can't fucking hear you! -[indistinct swearing, yelling] 1572 01:19:15,297 --> 01:19:18,008 -Who the fuck are you supposed to be?! -Jay! 1573 01:19:20,135 --> 01:19:21,929 -[knife clatters] -[gasping] 1574 01:19:22,012 --> 01:19:24,890 [♪ dramatic music playing] 1575 01:19:24,973 --> 01:19:27,100 [Melissa gasping, sniffling] 1576 01:19:28,810 --> 01:19:32,314 -Who do you wanna be? -Me. I wanna be me. [gasps] 1577 01:19:38,946 --> 01:19:40,656 [gasps] 1578 01:19:42,199 --> 01:19:45,202 [inaudible] 1579 01:19:49,248 --> 01:19:51,250 [plastic crinkling] 1580 01:19:57,047 --> 01:19:59,925 It's very cathartic, right? In there, it's still-- 1581 01:20:00,008 --> 01:20:02,469 There's a lot of processing that's still goin' on, right? 1582 01:20:02,553 --> 01:20:05,347 -[haunter] Of course. -Like, I've done this shit before, 1583 01:20:05,430 --> 01:20:07,599 and, you know, you're out of it in 15, 20 minutes 1584 01:20:07,683 --> 01:20:09,142 once you get back to the real world, 1585 01:20:09,226 --> 01:20:11,812 but this is gonna stay with me for a little while, I think. 1586 01:20:11,895 --> 01:20:14,648 Like, I don't know-- I don't know how to-- 1587 01:20:14,731 --> 01:20:17,484 I don't know how to describe the experience. 1588 01:20:19,528 --> 01:20:23,198 There is actually a great emotional release 1589 01:20:23,282 --> 01:20:25,492 after some type of self-harm behavior. 1590 01:20:25,576 --> 01:20:28,871 [♪ slow music playing] 1591 01:20:28,954 --> 01:20:31,540 On one level, it exhausts us. 1592 01:20:31,623 --> 01:20:35,043 Then, it starts to promote this addiction-like dopamine pathway 1593 01:20:35,127 --> 01:20:36,753 that we seek out over and over. 1594 01:20:36,837 --> 01:20:40,007 -[haunter] Congratulations. -Fuck! Fuck! 1595 01:20:40,090 --> 01:20:42,634 [sobbing] That was one hell of a show. 1596 01:20:42,718 --> 01:20:45,971 -[haunter] Are you okay? Are you okay? -[Melissa] Thank you so much. 1597 01:20:46,054 --> 01:20:48,473 [Melissa] It meant the world to me. 1598 01:20:48,557 --> 01:20:50,726 [sobbing] 1599 01:20:50,809 --> 01:20:52,644 [haunter] That's some great news. 1600 01:20:52,728 --> 01:20:54,771 Thank you so much, Justin. 1601 01:20:54,855 --> 01:20:56,523 [sniffles] That was fucking-- 1602 01:20:56,607 --> 01:20:58,525 [Haunter Justin] Thank you, but I'm glad you're okay. 1603 01:20:58,609 --> 01:21:00,277 I'm glad you got something out of it. 1604 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,237 -[laughs] Thank you. -You did awesome. 1605 01:21:02,321 --> 01:21:04,865 -It's a rough show, and you did so good. -Yeah. 1606 01:21:04,948 --> 01:21:07,367 -It's not-- [laughs] -[Haunter Justin] No, no. 1607 01:21:07,451 --> 01:21:10,078 -And you did awesome. -Thank you. 1608 01:21:10,162 --> 01:21:13,040 [Haunter Justin] Um, so right now, you can just take a breath. 1609 01:21:13,123 --> 01:21:16,126 [♪ slow music continues] 1610 01:21:24,259 --> 01:21:28,055 Russ... is damaged himself. 1611 01:21:28,138 --> 01:21:31,600 And he has some inner demons or trauma 1612 01:21:31,683 --> 01:21:35,354 that he needs to get help with, and I hope he does. 1613 01:21:35,437 --> 01:21:38,398 [W.P.] He is a person who aspired to be an entertainer 1614 01:21:38,482 --> 01:21:41,818 and became the torturer, the tormentor. 1615 01:21:41,902 --> 01:21:45,030 I was dragged across asphalt 1616 01:21:45,113 --> 01:21:47,491 in a parking lot... [coughs] 1617 01:21:47,574 --> 01:21:49,243 after my tour was already over! 1618 01:21:49,326 --> 01:21:52,120 None of you even know what you're talkin' about. 1619 01:21:52,204 --> 01:21:55,457 Russ isn't a torturer, okay? He's a showman. 1620 01:21:55,541 --> 01:21:58,210 People are stupid. That's what you sign up for. 1621 01:21:58,293 --> 01:22:00,796 It's his own little narcissism factory, 1622 01:22:00,879 --> 01:22:04,091 that people just come to, to-to-to-to help him feed on it. 1623 01:22:04,174 --> 01:22:07,636 And they're still very much active groups on Facebook. 1624 01:22:07,719 --> 01:22:09,221 It's just, you're drinking the Kool-Aid. 1625 01:22:09,304 --> 01:22:11,890 You're believing what he says. You're lapping it up. 1626 01:22:11,974 --> 01:22:14,309 Russ, I think you're a good man. 1627 01:22:14,393 --> 01:22:17,771 Just a little misunderstood by some people. 1628 01:22:17,855 --> 01:22:20,148 If people wanna do it, I'm not gonna stop 'em, 1629 01:22:20,232 --> 01:22:22,818 but it's not gonna shock me if someone dies one day, 1630 01:22:22,901 --> 01:22:24,695 and Russ goes to jail because of it. 1631 01:22:24,778 --> 01:22:27,489 -[Gabi inaudible] -[director] What would you like 1632 01:22:27,573 --> 01:22:31,076 the takeaway to be from your participation in this? 1633 01:22:31,159 --> 01:22:32,661 That 1634 01:22:33,745 --> 01:22:35,122 immersive haunts are okay, 1635 01:22:35,205 --> 01:22:37,124 even if it seems crazy and weird. 1636 01:22:39,418 --> 01:22:42,671 You can have your kinks, and that's perfectly fine. 1637 01:22:42,754 --> 01:22:46,008 But don't invite people into your kinks without them knowing 1638 01:22:46,091 --> 01:22:48,468 that that's exactly what they're going to be in. 1639 01:22:48,552 --> 01:22:51,513 If I knew I was getting into Russ's fantasy world 1640 01:22:51,597 --> 01:22:54,099 and living out whatever fantasies he wanted to see, 1641 01:22:54,183 --> 01:22:57,311 I probably would've felt different about it. But I was supposed to be 1642 01:22:57,394 --> 01:23:00,189 in a survive my own horror experience, 1643 01:23:00,272 --> 01:23:04,234 not survive, like, Russ McKamey's fantasy experience. 1644 01:23:05,068 --> 01:23:08,113 [Russ] Am I still doing tours? Of course! 1645 01:23:08,197 --> 01:23:11,241 I have a tour this weekend! 1646 01:23:11,325 --> 01:23:13,785 [on TV] I have a heart murmur I need to get taken care of. 1647 01:23:13,869 --> 01:23:17,831 I have surgery in about a month. If I, if I can get medically cleared, 1648 01:23:17,915 --> 01:23:21,502 um, hopefully, fingers crossed, in six months, I'll be up for a tour. 1649 01:23:21,585 --> 01:23:24,671 My name is Shelby. I'm from Scotland. 1650 01:23:24,755 --> 01:23:26,423 I work in the dental field. 1651 01:23:26,507 --> 01:23:28,717 I'm a professional nurse. 1652 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,970 I hold a very high position in a company. 1653 01:23:32,054 --> 01:23:35,724 I would love to go visit Russ, and I would love to hang out with him. 1654 01:23:35,807 --> 01:23:39,061 I'd love to take a tour at some point when I can get to the South. 1655 01:23:39,144 --> 01:23:42,314 I wanna take the tour because I love the survival horror movie. 1656 01:23:42,397 --> 01:23:44,983 I need to challenge myself a little bit more, 1657 01:23:45,067 --> 01:23:47,361 and this would be the ultimate challenge. 1658 01:23:47,444 --> 01:23:50,989 If I were to be put in that situation, 1659 01:23:51,073 --> 01:23:53,200 I would be able to survive. 1660 01:23:53,283 --> 01:23:56,787 I could get out of that. That would never happen to me. 1661 01:23:56,870 --> 01:23:58,789 McKamey Manor, I'm coming for you. 1662 01:23:58,872 --> 01:24:02,417 Drown me, beat me, torture me. 1663 01:24:02,501 --> 01:24:05,796 I'm here for all of it. And my kids are gonna watch all of it. 1664 01:24:05,879 --> 01:24:09,842 The manor is safe, it's fun, 1665 01:24:09,925 --> 01:24:13,762 and it will take you to your limit. 1666 01:24:13,846 --> 01:24:16,849 ♪♪ 1667 01:24:20,269 --> 01:24:23,689 -[wind blowing] -[birds chirping] 1668 01:24:28,986 --> 01:24:30,487 -[exhales] -[wiping] 1669 01:24:35,492 --> 01:24:37,494 [victim] No. [whimpering] 1670 01:24:38,287 --> 01:24:39,788 [Russ sighs] 1671 01:25:17,159 --> 01:25:20,162 [♪ soft ukulele music playing] 1672 01:25:27,961 --> 01:25:30,964 [♪ vocalizing] 1673 01:25:51,026 --> 01:25:54,029 [♪ ukulele, vocalizing continue] 1674 01:26:10,420 --> 01:26:14,925 ♪ Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum ♪ 1675 01:26:15,717 --> 01:26:20,222 ♪ Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum ♪ 1676 01:26:21,139 --> 01:26:25,644 ♪ Bum bum bum bum bum bum bum ♪ 1677 01:26:26,436 --> 01:26:30,065 ♪ Bum bum bum ba-ah ♪ 1678 01:26:31,859 --> 01:26:34,862 [♪ vocalizing] 1679 01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:46,123 [♪ music fades out] 135346

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