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His body was actually housed here,

right in the museum.

So, that's interesting that he was here.

And his most prized possession
is right over there,

which is the peace medal.

Holy...

What the hell was that?

The Buffalo History Museum

began collecting in 1862.

However, it moved to its
current location in 1902.

The Buffalo History Museum

has been Western New York's
premier historical organization,

collecting and researching
the Niagara Frontier's

rich history.

In its collection,

it features more than 100,000 artifacts,

200,000 photographs,

and over 20,000 books.

Hey, Dana.

Hey, hey, guys.

- Hey, Dana.
- Dan, Cam.

So, we wanted to meet
you here at the workshop,

and just see if you could
help us try to explain

what a K2 meter is and what it does.

A K2 meter is, it measures EMF.

What is EMF?

Electricity is only referred to as EMF

when there's an open circuit.

Once you close that
circuit, it is electricity.

And as you know,

electricity and magnetism is
two sides of the same coin.

Yeah, you can't
have one without the other.

Right.

The EMF detector closes that circuit,

and measures the amount of electrons

flowing across a copper wire.

So, how does this actually read the EMF?

Closes the circuit along a copper wire,

and it's sensitive enough to
measure the amount of electrons

flowing over that copper wire.

And then with any
fluctuations in that EMF,

that ties into a lot of theories

that are directly tied in with ghosts

and paranormal activity.

Exactly.

So, it's basically
just a circuit board?

Right, well, a lot,

all this is functioning

is to control the lights in it.

But this piece right here
is the most important.

This is what measures
the flow of electrons.

You see that?

When I turn this on, see how it reads it?

Oh, yeah.

Right?

And these walkie-talkies,

they're gonna set this K2 meter off.

Oh, yeah, for certain.

That's giving off quite a high-

Exactly, exactly.

High level of electricity in the air.

It emits at such a high level of EMF.

That's something you don't want to do

in an investigation.

Correct, that's why I do not like these

during investigations.

Yeah, I mean, like I said,

you can have a lot of false readings.

And in order to use a K2
meter in an appropriate way

in a paranormal investigation,

you really have to know
everything about the K2 meter,

and what kind of things will
give you a false reading.

So, when you do get a good reading,

you have better data to try to translate

into whether something
paranormal is going on or not.

Right.

Dana, thanks for giving
us a better understanding

of what EMF is and how it
relates to our K2 meter.

I think it's time to take this down

to the Buffalo History Museum,

and put this K2 meter to test.

Tony, how you doing?

How you doing, Cameron?

Cameron.

- I'm Dan.
- Dan.

- Joe.
- Joe.

- Nice to meet you.
- Nice to meet you.

Can you give us a
little bit of the history

of the background of the
building that we're at right now?

As far as paranormal-wise,
I mean, what's going on?

We've had a couple people

that have reported being
touched on the shoulder.

Okay.

And I myself, you know,

I've sat in my office a few times,

and you hear kind of phantom footsteps.

You hear voices here
and there and, you know,

you wonder if someone's
in the building with you.

- And ultimately-
- And you're by yourself

in the building?

You're completely by yourself.

Okay, where in the building

were these people
experiencing being touched?

Those stories came from the second floor

in what we call our
Native American gallery.

Okay.

And then the stories that,
the experiences that I've had

have been on the lower level
just outside my office.

Okay.

Okay, so, Tony, I'm looking around here.

Obviously, this is a Native
American exhibit here

with the museum.

What kind of things have happened here?

A couple years ago, we had two visitors

on separate occasions during one week,

come to the front desk

and ask if we had any, you
know, paranormal activity.

You know, there's something that happened

that you can't shake.

Yeah.

So, you want, yeah,

so you can get used to it all you want,

but sometimes, you know, the
hairs on the back of your neck

are definitely gonna stand up, absolutely.

And I was told that Red
Jacket, the Indian chief,

his body after he died
was actually kept here

for a moment of time?

Yeah, the Seneca leader, Red Jacket.

His body moved around a little bit.

And prior to being reinterred
at a local cemetery,

his remains were stored
here for a short time.

- Okay.
- Wow.

We do have Lewis, who is
a Seneca Indian on our team.

I think that'd be a great
opportunity for him to get in here

and see if he can connect
with, hopefully, Red Jacket.

- That'd be pretty cool, right?
- Right?

Yeah.

Okay, so this is the entrance

to where your office would
be backed out in here.

Now, you were mentioning

that you had actually
had a couple experiences

right in this vicinity?

Right.

There were a couple different occasions

where I'm working late,
working on exhibits,

or just catching up on some work

around, you know, nine, 10 at night.

And the first time, I'm
sitting in my office,

and I heard what sounded like footsteps

coming down the main stairwell.

At the time, I wondered,

well, maybe if there
might be another woman

who had worked here,

who came in to work late.

So, I didn't really think much of it.

And I heard, when they were
coming down the stairs,

I heard a woman's voice talking.

So, I automatically, you know, assume

you're not gonna think it's
paranormal right off the bat,

so I thought it was somebody
staying late working with me.

I, a few minutes later,

ended up wrapping up my work, leaving,

noticed that the building
was still locked down.

No one was here and no one had been here.

So, that kind of, you know,
raised my curiosity a bit

at that point.

Ah, just the one time, or was it?

Well, that was the first time.

And then recently, just last year,

a very similar incident happened.

I was, again, sitting at
my desk late at night,

and I heard the same steps
coming down the stairwell.

Okay.

Now, this time what happened

was that this, you know,
walking into this room,

there's a very particular
noise that you hear.

So, when I heard the footsteps,

I didn't really think much of it.

There had been,

I'm very comfortable in
the building at this point.

So, I stayed, I continued working.

And then I heard this thud-

coming down this hollow plank

you walk in to get in this room.

The minute I heard that,

hair on the back of my neck stood up.

I very calmly got up,

grabbed my bag, and made
a beeline for the door.

You know, ultimately,
there's so much history here.

There's so many artifacts.

If there is somebody here, you know,

we want to know who it is.

Okay, so basically we
have three main areas

to try to focus on here tonight.

We have downstairs here,

by Millard Fillmore's carriage

where Tony, you know,

you've had a couple of
different experiences

happen to you personally.

I really wanna make sure

that we're looking into
the visitors being touched

in any way.

You know, we wanna try to figure out

if this is something that's
reaching out to say something,

who it is,

make sure that we're giving
them, you know, you guys,

the comfort that you need to run a museum,

and then bring in the public, you know,

without any sort of hesitation.

So, we got a big task
ahead of us here tonight.

We got a lot of ground to cover.

I think we should just start
getting everything geared up,

get the team together, and let's go.

- Awesome.
- Alright.

A little spike here.

Could it possibly be Red Jacket?

My K2 just went dead.

Got a fluctuation
as soon as you've said that.

Wow, this is a pretty impressive place.

Yeah, look at this place, huh?

- Yeah, absolutely.
- Wow.

So, on our show,

we like to be able to feature
certain theories, experiments,

you know, maybe some science
involved in paranormal,

and technologies that are on
the cutting edge of our field.

Okay.

You, with your show,
Ghost Hunters International,

and basically, every other
show or paranormal team

on the planet, you know,

the number one tool used in
a paranormalist's arsenal

is the EMF fluctuation, a K2
meter, a Mel Meter, a REM POD,

the list goes on and on and on.

Yeah, yeah.

So, why is this such a main staple

in basically every
paranormal investigation

on the planet today?

Well, I think with a K2, measuring EMFs,

when you walk into a place
that's supposedly haunted,

that you use the device

so that if people are sensitive to EMFs,

tend to get the feeling of paranoia,

they hallucinate, and
they get creeped out.

And we think that eliminating
the EMF fields in the place,

getting a base reading

will let us fine tune it,

so that when we do investigate,

and we do have something that goes higher

than the base reading,

then you take notice

that there's something
could be happening soon,

or what have you.

And the theory

with the electromagnetic
field fluctuation itself

is that it's basically directly
associated with a ghost

per, you know, materializing,

or trying to manifest itself,

and giving off this burst of energy

in a fluctuation of electromagnetic field.

I mean, that's the theory, correct?

- Yes, it is.
- Okay.

And, you know, I don't know,

everything is, emits some kind of EMF,

nature does, you know, our equipment,

the TV by your bed, your alarm clock,

they all give off some kind
of electromagnetic field.

And if, like I said, if
people are sensitive to it,

and they get bombarded by these things,

they could automatically think
that in a place like this

that has high EMF,

that it's gonna be haunted,

or it's something around the corner,

and the people here want some answers.

- So, there's two sides
- Things it could be.

- To the story.
- Exactly.

Is it the fluctuation of the spirit,

or is it the, whatever this EMF is doing

to the particular individual
that's having that experience?

- So, let's put that
- Exactly.

- To the test here tonight.
- Yeah.

Let's go in, let's
start with a base reading,

and see if we can see

what's actually going on here naturally.

- Okay.
- Alright?

Let's Go.

Just, I'm walking into a 0.3.

You guys getting anything on the Ks?

No.

I got a 0.5.

Right, how about the spot
where supposedly somebody had-

0.6.

Been touched over here?

Oh, I'm getting a
little spike here, up to 1.5.

Are you?

Yep.

If we get something big in here-

With that 1.5.

Yep, that's what
I'm getting over here

on this thing.

Not coming through.

Now, this is the peace
medal that was given

to Red Jacket by George Washington.

Isn't that cool?

And that is pretty cool.

And, you know, not for nothing,

I mean, his body was kept here.

Yeah.

You know, as Tony was telling us.

So, you know, could it possibly be

that, you know, not only for
one, his body was kept here,

but one of his most prized
possessions is kept here.

These people that were
touched up here, dare I say,

could it possibly be Red Jacket?

I just wanna give a tip
for our viewers at home.

If you're using any sort of
electromagnetic field equipment,

trying to pick up any sort
of, you know, discrepancies

in the fluctuation of
the electromagnet field,

moving your equipment very fast

can sometimes give off a false positive.

So, make sure when you're,

when you have your equipment,

and you're trying to read EMF,

you're trying to keep it as
level and as still as possible

as you move through the building.

Okay, this belonged to

Lieutenant Colonel Seymour Boughton,

a calvary man who was killed
in the battle of Black Rock-

To start off if we start investigating,

I think that's something
we definitely have look at.

'Cause if that's blood,

that's this guy's, you know,

that's this guy's body here, basically.

You know, it would be some good reason

for him to might be
lingering around this place.

And that's something
we have to focus in on.

Who could this possibly be

with a museum with thousands
of artifacts in it?

We're digging a needle in a haystack.

- Yeah.
- You know,

we're picking out what's kind
of like rising on the top.

Could it be somebody who's tied
to some of these artifacts?

- Yeah.
- Could somebody's blood

be on the sash,

be what's drawing them here?

This is something we gotta look into.

We gotta get names.

We gotta get identities pulled
out from our investigation.

So, Lieutenant Colonel Seymour Boughton,

we hope to see you later, alright?

That's wood, there's
obviously no reason for it

to be giving off electromagnetic field.

Oh, did you see that?

Look at this, look at this spike

on Millard Fillmore's carriage.

How could,

what could be giving off that spike?

Can you see it there?

Joe's getting
a spike on the wheel.

Yeah, on the wheel.

That's, see that's something
that we're definitely,

you know, curious about,

'cause this is not supposed
to give off any sort

of electromagnetic fluctuation whatsoever.

Leather and wood.

Yeah, I just got a 2.2 on that wheel.

And then it went back down to 0.3.

And now it's steadily rising again.

Stopped at 1.1.

My K2 just went dead.

Down to 1 again.

I got a fluctuation as
soon as you said that,

- It's like mine is gone-
- in the carriage.

Mine's completely gone.

Now it's blinking.

Now it's blinking again?

This is the original floor.

This was built for the Pan Am.

There was no electricity
built into the floor

of a building back then.

1901, right?

Never.

Yeah.

So.

I'm baffled at this point.

Yeah, we're gonna have to
let the team know about this

and have them come down
here and further investigate

this actual area,

'cause this carriage should
not be giving off EMF

as far as I know, correct?

Correct.

Okay.

Hey, what's behind this door here?

Let's, let's check out what's behind here.

Holy moly!

I think we just stumbled onto another part

of our investigation.

His body was actually housed here.

Hey, what's behind this door here?

Let's check out what's behind here.

I think it's
a storage area, right?

Got a 3.

Oh wow, mine
just spiked up to a 10.

Holy moly!

What is this?

This is the underbelly.

This is the underbelly of the museum.

You know, I remember them telling me about

the old exhibit room that they had

that was damaged by water, water damage.

Oh.

And they took it off, you know,

obviously they stopped from
having any exhibits here.

So this must be it.

It looks it.

What a cool looking place.

I mean, you can actually see the bricks

that built this place.

You said you heard something.

What'd it sound like, Dan?

Like a-

I heard what I,

what sounded like footsteps
coming down the main stairwell.

I think we just-

I was just standing there,

'cause I figured I was gonna
see something staring at me.

There's a unit over here

that's running type of machine.

No, no, it's,

I can hear that.

That was like that sound when
you have a stone in your foot.

Like that.

Heard it right there.

I know what I heard.

Well, I think we
just stumbled onto another main

part of our investigation.

I think we're gonna have
to a team down here, too.

That's pretty significant,
you're hearing things here,

nobody's down here.

Uh, I got the chills.

This is the area behind
us by the carriage,

that we were just getting that
immense fluctuation of EMF.

You just got a spike.

Yeah.

Oh my God, look at that spike

he's getting right there.

What is going on with
the EMF in this place?

It's weird.

And those are the two
areas that Tony told us,

point blank, he had experiences.

He said that he heard humming
of a girl with dictation,

some sort of words coming
out, some sort of song.

Yeah.

A woman's voice out by the carriage.

And then that bang on the-

Where he said that
he heard the footsteps.

All right, if that's a spirit,
can you make that go away?

Can you step away from those lights?

Wow.

Okay, we haven't even
started this investigation yet.

For one, if anything we can do right now

is validate that the two areas

that Tony had his experiences,

we're getting weird
anomalies on our machines.

On our K2s and our Mels.

So let's go relate this
information back to the team

and let's get started
investigating right away.

I don't think I want
to waste any more time.

Okay?

Ready?

Okay guys,

I think we should probably
head up to the Native American

exhibit and check that out.

Okay.

'Cause there's been some
experiences and claims.

So let's go up there and see what we got.

I'm also half Native
American, so hopefully-

You can probably
trigger something.

Yeah, possibly try to trigger something.

Well, some of a couple
of the claims have been

from different people at different times

that they've actually been touched

on the shoulder.

So we might be heading into some physical.

Okay.

Now, Red Jacket, who is
a Seneca nation leader

during the Revolutionary War,

his body was actually housed here,

right in the right in the museum.

So that's interesting that he was here,

and his most prized possession
is right over there,

which is the peace medal,

which George Washington
literally handed him.

So, you know, the claim,
or we're wondering whether

he could still be here.

Right.

And it's possibly him that's interacting

with people up here.

So what should we do first?

You wanna do an EVP session?

Yeah, let's do an EVP session.

Also what I'll do is I'll take pictures.

Okay.

What I have in my hand here,

it is a full spectrum camera, okay?

It can see in the full spectrum of light,

infrared, ultraviolet.

It's said that ghosts can
be seen in these spectrums

of light that we cannot
see with our own eyes.

So during our session here,

I'll be taking random pictures constantly

to see if I can capture something.

Do you know who this
carriage belonged to?

I just heard somebody
walking around in there.

Boom, boom, boom, boom.

Okay guys, so I'm, really
excited to get back down here

when the lights are off.

Joe, Dan, and I, when we
came down here before,

we were getting some
pretty strange anomalies

off the electromagnetic field
coming from the carriage

that Millard Fillmore actually used.

So let's see if we still get
any readings off of here.

All right, so I'm gonna set up a K2 meter.

Now we actually have a,

like a pretty steady reading there.

Okay, so if the person who
this carriage belongs to

is still here,

can you give us some sort
of indication to our meter

that we put on the carriage
that has green lights?

Can you come over and make 'em go away?

Holy moly.

Did you see that?

That was like a big,
it was just steady too.

Yeah, it was steady.

Like almost like, you
know, when you hold it up

to an outlet and just stays steady.

Yeah.

Okay, can some-

If somebody is here with
us and is able to see

that green light that is on this carriage,

can you come over to this green light

and show us a sign that you are here?

Can you grab that meter for us?

Are you the person that
the guy in the office

heard you step on that wooden
slope and heard footsteps

out here?

If so, try to touch that device

and it will light up different colors

to let us know all that you
may be trying to talk to us.

Is there somebody in that room?

There's not?

I just heard somebody
walking around in there.

That's-

Okay.

But I can't tell you one thing.

I heard somebody walking
from this other room.

All right, so I think
we should just pick up

the investigation.

If there is any spirits here

that are trying to communicate,
we do appreciate that.

But we're gonna close down
this line of communication

and I'm gonna see what's
going on in this room here.

Boom, boom, boom, boom.

Now this is very, this
is very significant.

What we're experiencing right
now is we have two K2 meters.

Okay, we're up against this glass,

where the sash that belonged

to Lieutenant Colonel Seymour Boughton,

who died in the battle of Black Rock,

and his blood is still on it.

Now we're talking about EMF fluctuations.

Okay?

Why would this one be
going off and not this one?

Now we have another piece of equipment

that I wanna try to set up here real quick

for Mr. Boughton.

And this is a spirit box, okay?

What this does, AM/FM radio,

and it has a scan feature
taken right out of it, okay?

Now it spits through these
channels very, very fast.

Okay?

All the channels, not just
the ones that come in.

All right?

Just every channel,

so spirits can manipulate
the static energy

into spirit voice through
the radio communication.

Soldier, are you here?

Both-

Okay, see this indication
of the EMF fluctuation?

This is the soldier

that's trying to communicate
with us right now.

Is your name Seymour?

Seymour Boughton?

Yes.

What was that?

Soldier.

How did you die?

Gun.

Were you shot?

Yeah.

Yeah?

Is an item in this room belong to you?

No.

Whoa, big spikes, both big
spikes on both things, right?

Is this item a gun?

It said something.

The sash?

I think it said, "the sash".

Is the blood on that sash yours?

We need you to focus.

Try to say "atten-hut" again.

Atten-

That seemed pretty close to me.

Do you got a flashlight?

Can we get a flashlight and
get it on her wrist real quick?

She said, just something
might have touched her wrist.

Said that they had
felt someone touching them

on the shoulder.

Okay.

And just coming up from
behind them and just, you know,

resting their hand on their shoulder.

They turn around, and no one there.

It felt like-

Okay, so what happened?

I was just standing like this

with my hands behind my back

and then right here,
just like really lightly,

just felt like feathery.

And I looked and I saw you behind me,

but you're further back, not
close enough to touch me.

Hmm.

Okay.

Kind of strange.

So very strange.

Very strange.

We've been getting reports

of the employees and
customers of this museum

of being touched by unseen forces.

We wish to communicate with these forces.

Are you here with us?

I thought I just heard something in there.

Yeah, I did too.

Was that you that just made that noise?

I'm part Native American,

so I am a direct descendant of yours.

I'm part of your family.

If you are touching
people, can you tell us why?

Are you're trying to get their attention?

Perhaps at one time you were the curator

and you want us not to touch things?

That's why you're touching people?

That was a noise behind you?

That was, that was.

It sounded like it came
from like, this area.

It did, I agree.

I'm getting a little
spike here, up to 1.5.

Are you?

Yeah.

Would you like us to pay
attention to the headdresses?

Was one of them one that you wore?

One of the reasons why we do this

is we want to know what is
waiting for us after we die.

This device with the
green light that I'm holding

and the one on the floor
is called a K2 meter.

I'm not sure if you'd understand that,

but it gives, it detects EMF fields,

electromagnetic fields that
we think you could manipulate

and converse with us and-

Let us know you're here.

Question and answer, right?

If you're here, light up this device,

it has multiple lights on it.

Yes, or make some kind of noise.

Let us know that you're here.

We've been here all day.

We've been waiting to talk to you.

I heard a noise over there.

Yeah, I heard that.

Across the way.

Did you hear too?

Yep.

I have a camera in my hand here,

where I have the ability to see you

if you manifest yourself.

Can you do that for us?

I definitely heard it over there.

Could you come a little closer to us?

Are you stuck here in this building,

or are you allowed to travel
through space and time?

I'm gonna turn on the Ovilus

and just see if we get
something with that.

So we've been hearing some
noise off in the distance.

If that's you, why don't
you come a little closer?

Alright.

Alright.

So you-

I asked it to come
closer and it said alright.

It said alright?

It said alright.

I think-

There was something over there.

Out of the shadow?

I thought I did, but-

Yeah, right there.

What the hell was that?

That was loud, man.

That was like a
screechy demon-sounding noise.

It's a word box full of,

I don't know if it's 5,000
words or something like that?

Yeah, I'm not sure.

And it should be
that spirits can manipulate it.

Human.

Human, yeah, we're human.

Yeah.

Okay, we're back.

Anything going on in the
Native American room?

Here's your chance to shine.

So we're wondering if the
gentleman who made this beautiful,

beautiful clock, I don't
know if you can see it,

but look at the artistry
and the craftsmanship

on this thing.

Must have taken hours and
hours to build it, to make it.

And it was donated to the history museum,

and the gentleman who made
it passed away a week later.

So we're wondering if you're possibly here

and come to visit and see
people admiring your work?

Let's see what's going on over here.

Alright-

Hey, is that a-

Bible.

Is this a Bible?

It's a Bible.

Well, I mean the Ovilus
said "Bible" earlier,

so I'm wondering if it was.

Yeah, this could definitely be a Bible.

Bible.

Now, earlier when we were
down in the holding room,

you actually said the word
"Bible" and we're actually

up here now, where there's a Bible.

So what do you wanna say to us?

Shh.

I hear whispering.

Oh my God.

I've just seen,

like something just
fly right across there.

Whoa.

See, see?

What's that?

That was loud.

Shh, shh, shh.

Hello?

I'd just seen you, and we all heard you.

My heart's going like a million
miles an hour right now.

Can you do that again?

We just want to talk to you.

We don't mean no harm.

No, it wasn't there just to hear me.

There's no other sources of light in here.

Yeah, I don't know how that could-

Shh, shh,

I hear it again.

We've just seen,

or I've just seen something
flying across here

and then as soon as I said
I seen it, we heard a noise,

all three of us heard a noise.

Yeah, that was a-

Under.

And then I keep hearing-

Under, under.

Whispering noises?

Are you hiding underneath
something right now?

And then you said you seen
the shadow on that wall?

Yeah, on the wall right there,

where your finger is.

What level was it that you saw it?

Like how high?

What's that in the shadow?

Did you hear that?

What is that?

That like-

Did you hear that?

Yeah.

- Movement?
- Dragging.

- Dragging?
- Yeah, like dragging.

That's-

Who's here?

Okay, we hear you.

We keep hearing noises, it's like dragging

and whispers.

And I-

We should head
over towards the clock.

We just want to communicate with you.

Is there something that
you wish to relay to us?

Demon.

What?

Demon.

Demon?

Demon, yeah.

Okay, so clearly
we're communicating

with something intelligent.

It doesn't necessarily mean-

Yeah, we had
"human" coming up the stairs,

and now we have "demon".

Let's go back to the Bible
area.

Can we?

Hang on, the noise was
coming from over here.

I'm coming over here.

Yeah, all in this area.

Where are you right now?

You said the word "under".

Are you under something right now?

Are you waiting for us to leave?

Are you waiting for us to leave?

Are you waiting for us to leave?

Well that's one of them.

That better be one of the,

'cause I just my pants.

What was that though?

That didn't sound like a door or-

Scott, did you
guys just shut some door

or something?

Or cough?

Or cough?

Negative.

Noose.

You gotta be kidding me.

What it say?

Noose.

News?

Noose.

What was that?

If that wasn't them,
what the heck was that?

Well, I was recording it.

You said the word "under",

are you under something right now?

Are you waiting for us to leave?

Yeah, right there.

What the hell was that?

That was loud, man.

That was like a
screechy demon-sounding noise.

That wasn't a door, that wasn't a door.

You said the word "under",

are you under something right now?

Are you waiting for us to leave?

That's like a scream.

Whore.

What does that say?

Whore.

You said the word "under",

are you under something right now?

Are you waiting for us to leave?

- Wow.
- Yo, that's like-

What?

Wide.

Hide?

No, wide.

I don't either.

That that was a weird,

that's not a door sound to me.

I mean, we can, but that was,

it was long too.

It wasn't-

It was loud!

It was super loud, it was
long, and it was weird.

So if it's not the front door,

then I don't know what the hell it is.

I'm seeing like move,

like in this doorway and over there.

Well, I'm sure
they're all around.

We're just, they're-

Alright, let's-

But I don't like
the fact that we got "demon"

and then we hear something like that.

"Human" and then "demon".

Yeah.

Like, yeah, okay, you guys are the humans.

Now let's see what the demons can do.

Is there something
that's not human in here?

Is there anyone down here with us?

Are you the shadow
that they see down here?

See that?

Is there anyone down here with us?

Can you tell me how
many people are in the room?

Two.

- Two?
- Two.

I need you to state your name.

Are you the shadow
that they see down here?

Are you hiding from somebody?

Who is Joseph?

I'm Joseph.

I thought it said, "I'm Joseph".

I think that's exactly
what it sounded like.

It sounded like, "I'm Joseph".

Yeah, that's what it sounded like to me.

Hello.

Is that you, Joseph?

Ten.

How old do we think he is?

I just get the feeling, a boy,

he's gotta be between 7, 10?

8, 10?

We think you might be a child?

Perhaps a little boy, a young boy?

See that?

Okay.

Can you try to talk to us, please?

Try to tell us your name?

Just so that I know that it's not a fluke,

can you make it flash the red again?

Like you just did?

That one down there is red.

Can you see us?

If you can see us, light
up the devices on the floor

and on this bench.

Oh.

So you can see us, can you
flash it to red, please?

Right when I'm pointing,
right to red, if you could.

Concentrate.

That was almost there.

Okay, if that's-

Can you back away now,

and just let it go to the one green light?

Are you by yourself here?

This one just turned to red.

Right.

Now it's green.

Looks like he's
standing right there with-

There it is.

Oh, there it is, it went down.

The red one went down.

Thank you.

Great job.

How many are here with you?

Yeah.

One.

One, that was so clear it
sounded like a little boy to me.

Yeah.

And then the
light went back down.

It's playing origin, I just-

All right, I'm gonna place
this device onto the floor,

it's our K2 meter.

It's gonna pick up electromagnetic fields

if there is anything here.

We're gonna place another
device on the floor

that will record.

We'll be able to hear you speak,

or you can touch this device on the floor

and it'll allow us to know
that you're here as well.

So who's here with us right now?

Can you give us your name?

If there's anybody in the room with us

and you don't want to come forward,

can you give us a sign that you're here?

Make a noise?

You okay?

No.

What's going on?

I'm pretty dizzy.

Well, maybe it's-

I'm shaking.

I don't know, um-

You want to sit down?

I'm like, I feel like-

Oh, oh my god.

What?

Don't do-

What?

Dana.

I'm like shaking right
now and I'm on fire.

Look at her neck.

See that?

Mhm.

What is it, what?

Three red scratches.

Wow.

I just like started shaking
and my chest got really heavy

and I just was like, Dan, I'm on fire,

told him to check my face.

Like I'm just-

Are you okay though?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You want to continue?

Of course.

Just like I said, it
wasn't a good feeling,

it wasn't a bad feeling.

I just, you know what?

It could be just a way of communication

that didn't mean anything,
just that I told you-

Yeah, but that happened
to me once before.

Yeah, it was in a negative way.

I just-

I just felt like real off,
like fun house effect,

I couldn't breathe and
I just looked at Dan,

I'm like, I feel like I'm on fire.

One other time that happened

where she said the same
thing, "I feel like I'm fire".

She goes like this on
her back and I pulled up

her shirt on her back,

and her whole back was scratched down.

Kinda weird.

Okay, so I gathered everybody up here

in the museum after our investigations.

How do you guys think everything went?

- I thought it was good.
- I thought it went great.

Now I know just from talking
to the three team leaders

that every team seemed to
have experienced anything.

Can anybody say that they
have experienced something

that was a little off?

Yes.

Are we safe to say that
there's a little something

more going on behind the scenes

in the Buffalo History Museum?

Yes.

Most people know-