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I think a lot of bad things
happened in the trees.
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It's getting more violent.
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I've been scratched.
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I feel like I'm being watched.
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Something's wrong with the kid.
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It smells like rotting flesh.
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When these people die,
they're stuck with this thing.
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She's trying to drive her insane.
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Something bad's going to happen.
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My name is Amy Allan.
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There's panic.
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And it's almost like a butchering.
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I see dead people.
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They all died horribly.
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I speak to dead people.
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Get out of here.
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And they speak to me.
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Vicious.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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It doesn't matter where you are.
I'll find you.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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This guy's a real piece of work.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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I feel like I live in a house of Hell.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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This is not good.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end...
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I want my life back.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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- Is he trying to kill her?
- [Sobs]
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Or time to get out.
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Oh, my God.
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This is going to kill us.
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STEVE: I'm down here in Covington,
Louisiana.
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It's about 40 miles north of New Orleans.
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I received a call from a woman
who was hysterical on the phone.
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She said the activity in her
home destroyed her marriage,
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and now it's going after her three kids.
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When I spoke with her,
she really tugged at my heart,
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and I hope we can help her out.
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
I have to make sure
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the location is free from
any leading information.
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Family photos, personal items, and books
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have to be covered or removed.
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When I'm finished,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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AMY: Oh, my God.
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The first thing that I got was
really extreme amounts of anger,
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like deadly anger.
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Uh-oh.
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I think a lot of bad things
happened in the trees.
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It's very brutal, savage, and dark.
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STEVE: So, Rhonda, I'm glad I'm here.
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Listening to you on the
phone broke my heart,
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how desperate you are.
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It's very stressful here.
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Me and my children,
they're terrified, I'm terrified.
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And how old are the kids?
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This is Scarlett. She's 10.
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Gilby, he's 6, and Savannah, she's 8.
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Are they being affected?
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Yes, I think Scarlett's probably
had the most experiences.
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What have you experienced?
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We're hearing a lot of footsteps, voices.
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We're seeing shadows,
and now it's getting more violent.
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How long have you been in the house?
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December of '04.
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My ex-husband and I custom-built the house.
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- Your ex-husband?
- Yes.
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Okay. Well, I'm sorry to hear that.
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Definitely think some of
the activity in this house
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contributed to our divorce.
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Why do you say that?
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We were very much in love, very happy.
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He was my soul mate.
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And he was just never his regular self
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after we moved here.
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You saw a personality change?
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Yes. And there was just other issues,
like substance abuse.
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He was addicted to pain medication.
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Geez. After moving here?
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After moving here.
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I don't mean to get nosy. I just...
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The more I know,
the more I can convey to Amy.
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Mm-hmm.
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So you feel your husband's
personality and the mood swings
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changed when he moved here with you?
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What about yourself?
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I definitely noticed it with myself, too.
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Could be angry really easy.
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I'm in pain a lot.
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I started having health problems
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the day after we bought the property.
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It's a burning in my legs and feet,
and it's all the time.
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And I've been to over 40 specialists.
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They still don't know what's wrong with me
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- or why it happened.
- Let me ask you a question.
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As far as the investigation goes,
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what are you hoping to get out of it?
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I would hope that my children
and I could not be afraid,
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have a normal childhood.
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They shouldn't have to
live in fear like this.
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This is, like, ridiculously painful.
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The energy here is so
bad that it could... [sighs]
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Harm a sensitive.
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It's strange
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because it is composed of
not just the dead energy here
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but also the living.
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And they are absorbing this.
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That's caused an illness,
I think, for the female here.
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I don't know if it's
heart or if it's blood,
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but there's something
physical that's manifested
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as a result of this.
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I see, like, restlessness.
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I see panic. I see series of illnesses.
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So this is something going on.
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This has, like,
incapacitated this person at times.
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I think there's been hospital visits.
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And I'm, like, seeing this conversation,
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and there's a male.
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And he's just like, "Why don't"...
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Like, "Why don't we just leave?"
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God, I feel so sick.
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So, what's going on up here?
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I've been slapped up here.
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You've been slapped?
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- Yes.
- How?
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I was over here, putting some things away,
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and it felt like someone
slapped me on my butt.
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Did something fall on you maybe?
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No, nothing fell on me. Felt like a hand.
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Okay. But did you look to see if any
of the kids were up here or anything?
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Yeah, they were downstairs.
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Any other physical things
happen to you up here?
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Yes. This just happened recently.
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I had three scratches
just appear on my arm.
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Kind of looks like cat scratches, you know?
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It's not.
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The cat that sleeps with us is declawed.
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They're still showing up here.
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Oh, yeah. I can see it.
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What about the kids?
Any experiences with them?
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Yes, all of my children
have had similar attacks.
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Okay.
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Oh, God.
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There's this old woman up here.
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She is very grumpy.
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Whoo! Ooh!
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Whoo!
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Talk about some [bleep] anger issues.
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[Bleep]
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She hates the living people.
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She just says, "I haunt them.
That's what I do."
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And she says she does it very well.
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I think this old woman is
focused on an adult female here.
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I'm thinking she's trying
to drive her insane.
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STEVE: All right.
So, what's going on in the bedroom,
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as far as experiences go?
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One night, I was touched a lot.
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My head, my face, my hair was touched.
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And then I felt someone
come on the foot of the bed
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and, like, sit next to me like this,
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and the bed went down,
and it didn't get back up.
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It just stayed like this.
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- It feel like a person?
- Yes.
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It felt like a person
was getting in the bed.
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How big of a person?
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It felt like someone my size.
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I mean, this is crazy.
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This is what I'm used to.
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Unless you live it every day,
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people just don't understand
what you go through.
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There have been times that the old woman
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has beat on the living woman here.
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I see her standing next to a bed.
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And the old woman is very big
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and literally just sits on her body.
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And the woman's huge,
so it's like smushing the living woman.
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She's trying to drive her crazy,
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hoping that she's gonna lose
her [bleep] mind, basically.
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STEVE: How long did you live
here before you got divorced?
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SCOTT: About seven years.
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So, Scott,
the seven years you were living here,
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did you ever experience
anything you couldn't explain?
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You know, like the smells
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that would just constantly
come from that room...
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The same smells, like rotting flesh.
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Which room are we talking about?
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The playroom.
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Did you ever investigate it?
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Oh, yeah.
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The drywall was, you know, dry.
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I mean, it wasn't wet.
There was no moisture anywhere.
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So, there was no indication of
a decaying body or anything?
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- None.
- Anything else?
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No. I'm here for Rhonda
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because I know how much
this is affecting her.
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Whether I'm a true believer or not, I mean,
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I have to take care of my
kids and her, as well.
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You realize they're getting scratched?
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She told me about that.
She showed me some of the marks.
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Yeah, I mean, that's got to drive you crazy.
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It's horrible.
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I mean, how do you protect your
child when that's going on?
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They shouldn't have to
kind of go through this.
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So, when I was talking to Rhonda,
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she basically said you
guys were soul mates.
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Do you agree with that?
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Oh, yeah. I have no doubt about that.
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We felt like we were doing
everything the right way,
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and then we moved in this house.
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Things just started changing.
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And the whole seven years I was here,
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I was just more unhappy than
I've ever been in my life.
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My behavior started becoming more...
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little bit more aggressive.
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So, you think you've changed
since you've been out of here?
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It's a weird thing you would say that.
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I don't think I've ever been
happier in my entire life.
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There's this living male,
and he's just had it,
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and he's very overly dramatic
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and just, like, screaming at everyone.
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He's just not reacting well, I think,
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to everything that's going on, I guess.
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He wants out.
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He wants away from these people,
the living people.
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I don't know why this
living man is flipping out,
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but it has something to
do with the trees outside.
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There's a male in this,
like, tree house thing.
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There's some connection
between this dead man
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and the living male at this place.
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They have things in common.
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I can't... can't keep talking to you
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if this is gonna keep being in the way.
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[Sighs]
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He likes this relationship
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'cause he's felt lonely for a long time,
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and he feels like this is
a kindred spirit for him.
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- How old are you?
- 8.
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8 years old.
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Now, is this the room that you sleep in?
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I would, but I don't.
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You don't, huh? Where are you sleeping?
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With my mom and my sister and my brother.
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Okay. Why are you sleeping with mommy?
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Because I don't want to sleep in my room
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because I feel like I'm being watched.
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Who do you think is watching you, honey?
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I know it's not good.
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Have you ever seen
anything or heard anything?
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I saw a back of a lady's head in a bun.
257
00:13:04,889 --> 00:13:07,924
Okay. Where did you see this lady's head?
258
00:13:07,929 --> 00:13:10,096
In the kitchen, on a chair.
259
00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:11,499
- In the kitchen?
- Yeah.
260
00:13:11,502 --> 00:13:12,501
Okay.
261
00:13:12,504 --> 00:13:13,769
Are you afraid of the house, honey?
262
00:13:13,772 --> 00:13:14,904
Yeah.
263
00:13:14,907 --> 00:13:16,639
Any place you don't like being alone in?
264
00:13:16,643 --> 00:13:18,710
All of the places.
265
00:13:22,253 --> 00:13:25,222
There's something here.
There's something...
266
00:13:25,227 --> 00:13:27,160
There's something here.
267
00:13:29,334 --> 00:13:31,766
Something's wrong with the kid.
268
00:13:31,770 --> 00:13:34,805
Something's really wrong with her.
269
00:13:34,810 --> 00:13:36,944
Mm.
270
00:13:36,948 --> 00:13:40,646
Something... Something is inside the child.
271
00:13:43,889 --> 00:13:45,787
I think it looks like a woman to her.
272
00:13:45,791 --> 00:13:47,791
I saw something on the floor,
273
00:13:47,795 --> 00:13:50,495
something like it crawled in
on the floor or something.
274
00:13:50,499 --> 00:13:51,933
Then I, like, see this woman,
275
00:13:51,936 --> 00:13:54,434
so I don't know if she
thinks it's a woman or not.
276
00:13:54,439 --> 00:13:56,339
Sometimes she plays with it.
277
00:13:56,343 --> 00:13:58,110
There's always somebody in the room,
278
00:13:58,113 --> 00:14:00,278
and they're always talking,
and it's not good.
279
00:14:00,282 --> 00:14:02,480
I don't know what this thing is.
280
00:14:02,484 --> 00:14:04,949
I think it wants to take the kid.
281
00:14:11,999 --> 00:14:14,401
So, Scarlett, I was talking to Mommy,
282
00:14:14,405 --> 00:14:18,108
and she told me you were having
some experiences in the house.
283
00:14:18,114 --> 00:14:19,412
- How old are you?
- 10.
284
00:14:19,415 --> 00:14:21,348
Okay. And you're the oldest, right?
285
00:14:21,352 --> 00:14:22,786
Yes.
286
00:14:22,789 --> 00:14:24,957
You guys are going through a lot here, huh?
287
00:14:24,961 --> 00:14:27,061
I've been touched and scratched.
288
00:14:27,065 --> 00:14:30,736
I've been, like, grabbed.
289
00:14:30,741 --> 00:14:33,773
I feel like fingers are just touching me.
290
00:14:33,778 --> 00:14:35,679
Now, you said you get scratched.
291
00:14:35,683 --> 00:14:38,352
How does that happen? What goes on?
292
00:14:38,356 --> 00:14:40,488
It feels like somebody's scratching me,
293
00:14:40,492 --> 00:14:43,894
and it burns really bad for,
like, a long time.
294
00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:45,333
Maybe a minute later, I'll look down,
295
00:14:45,336 --> 00:14:46,769
there's a giant scratch right there.
296
00:14:48,305 --> 00:14:50,169
Has anything else happened in here?
297
00:14:50,172 --> 00:14:51,771
I see apparitions.
298
00:14:51,775 --> 00:14:53,608
Okay. Of what?
299
00:14:53,612 --> 00:14:56,111
I've seen one of a girl.
300
00:14:56,115 --> 00:14:58,949
She's wearing a long,
long, like, pink dress.
301
00:14:58,954 --> 00:15:00,620
What... Did it look like it was old?
302
00:15:00,623 --> 00:15:03,321
Like, old times, or does it look
like it was from recent times?
303
00:15:03,326 --> 00:15:05,222
It looked like it was from old times.
304
00:15:05,225 --> 00:15:07,093
Okay.
305
00:15:07,097 --> 00:15:09,830
And I've seen, like, creatures in here.
306
00:15:09,835 --> 00:15:11,703
What kind of creatures?
307
00:15:11,706 --> 00:15:13,673
They look like people,
308
00:15:13,677 --> 00:15:18,076
but they're, like,
all crouched down and scaly.
309
00:15:18,082 --> 00:15:21,054
It looks a little bit more
like an alien or something.
310
00:15:21,059 --> 00:15:22,324
What are they doing?
311
00:15:22,327 --> 00:15:24,497
They're just staring at me.
312
00:15:24,501 --> 00:15:26,336
I can tell by the look on your face,
313
00:15:26,340 --> 00:15:28,441
you're really afraid of these things, huh?
314
00:15:31,348 --> 00:15:33,649
MATTHEW: Can you describe this thing now?
315
00:15:33,654 --> 00:15:37,354
It can look, like, humanoid,
316
00:15:37,359 --> 00:15:40,298
but it can also look like an animal.
317
00:15:40,303 --> 00:15:42,169
It can change its height.
318
00:15:42,173 --> 00:15:44,439
It can be standing on two feet,
319
00:15:44,443 --> 00:15:48,511
or it can be like an animal, on all fours.
320
00:15:48,516 --> 00:15:52,783
Always pitch-black,
and it does always have wings.
321
00:15:52,789 --> 00:15:55,092
So, what would you call this?
322
00:15:55,096 --> 00:15:58,030
Most people would call it, like, a demon,
323
00:15:58,035 --> 00:16:01,668
but it's not... not a demon.
324
00:16:01,674 --> 00:16:03,909
I think it's scarier.
325
00:16:03,913 --> 00:16:10,784
I'm very confused how it's
associated or around a child.
326
00:16:14,862 --> 00:16:19,164
And they can attach to people...
living people.
327
00:16:19,170 --> 00:16:23,437
Like people who are
alcoholics or drug addicts.
328
00:16:23,443 --> 00:16:25,043
They attach, typically,
329
00:16:25,046 --> 00:16:27,147
to somebody who's in the throes of it.
330
00:16:27,151 --> 00:16:30,117
When these people die,
331
00:16:30,122 --> 00:16:33,689
they're stuck with this thing for,
like, eternity.
332
00:16:33,694 --> 00:16:39,329
I've seen, like,
the dead people with these things,
333
00:16:39,336 --> 00:16:44,472
and they look like
they're suffering greatly.
334
00:16:44,479 --> 00:16:48,516
Like, they seriously, like,
better do what I say,
335
00:16:48,522 --> 00:16:51,122
or people are gonna [bleep] die.
336
00:16:51,126 --> 00:16:52,126
Period.
337
00:17:05,803 --> 00:17:07,935
STEVE: Even though Rhonda's house is new,
338
00:17:07,939 --> 00:17:10,473
the property deeds go
back to the mid 1800s.
339
00:17:10,477 --> 00:17:12,980
I'm on my way to meet
with a local historian
340
00:17:12,985 --> 00:17:15,320
who said one of the
original owners of the land
341
00:17:15,324 --> 00:17:17,924
suffered heartbreak, insanity, and death.
342
00:17:25,471 --> 00:17:27,205
So, Mary, you mentioned on the phone
343
00:17:27,209 --> 00:17:29,738
that the original owners of
the property I'm investigating
344
00:17:29,742 --> 00:17:31,942
had a pretty tough time there,
a lot of tragedy.
345
00:17:31,946 --> 00:17:33,709
Right. But before we get to that,
346
00:17:33,713 --> 00:17:35,378
how did they even come to the property?
347
00:17:35,381 --> 00:17:38,682
Well, Frances Bossier inherited
about 100 acres of property
348
00:17:38,687 --> 00:17:42,321
from her deceased grandmother
in the Covington area,
349
00:17:42,327 --> 00:17:45,627
which is where your
client's house is located.
350
00:17:45,632 --> 00:17:48,433
This is the land patent,
showing her receiving the property.
351
00:17:49,472 --> 00:17:52,439
Okay. Now, who'd she come here with?
352
00:17:52,444 --> 00:17:55,512
She came here with her husband, Joseph.
353
00:17:55,517 --> 00:17:57,986
So I've got to assume back in the 1850s,
at some point,
354
00:17:57,990 --> 00:18:00,725
the husband would've got the
property turned over to his name.
355
00:18:00,730 --> 00:18:03,565
Correct.
She did turn over her assets to him.
356
00:18:04,570 --> 00:18:06,769
But she thought that he
was being very reckless
357
00:18:06,773 --> 00:18:07,772
with his investments,
358
00:18:07,775 --> 00:18:09,810
so she actually sued him
359
00:18:09,814 --> 00:18:13,384
to gain control of her property and funds.
360
00:18:13,389 --> 00:18:16,457
We've actually been able to
find copies of the lawsuit.
361
00:18:16,462 --> 00:18:18,895
Okay, so what happens?
362
00:18:18,900 --> 00:18:20,499
Well, she actually won,
363
00:18:20,502 --> 00:18:23,540
and he had to pay her her money back,
364
00:18:23,545 --> 00:18:25,777
and she maintained control
of all of her property,
365
00:18:25,781 --> 00:18:28,313
which was unheard of for that time period.
366
00:18:28,317 --> 00:18:29,815
But he must have been very reckless.
367
00:18:29,819 --> 00:18:31,952
Okay. So they were married when
they went to court on this.
368
00:18:31,956 --> 00:18:33,288
Did it break them up after that?
369
00:18:33,291 --> 00:18:35,322
No, it didn't.
370
00:18:35,326 --> 00:18:36,926
Okay. Now, you mentioned on the phone
371
00:18:36,929 --> 00:18:38,729
there was a lot of tragedy
with this family.
372
00:18:38,733 --> 00:18:40,499
And I'm assuming it wasn't the court case.
373
00:18:40,503 --> 00:18:43,937
No, unfortunately, in 1853,
their oldest daughter, Fanny,
374
00:18:43,942 --> 00:18:47,345
drowned in an accident right
here in Lake Pontchartrain.
375
00:18:48,753 --> 00:18:51,019
So I would assume,
between the court case against each other
376
00:18:51,023 --> 00:18:53,356
and now they lose a kid,
it had to be tough on their marriage.
377
00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:54,761
Of course.
378
00:18:54,765 --> 00:18:56,232
Okay.
379
00:18:57,736 --> 00:19:00,805
AMY: The old woman who beats
on the living woman here,
380
00:19:00,809 --> 00:19:01,941
this is her house.
381
00:19:01,944 --> 00:19:03,710
She wants the house back.
382
00:19:03,714 --> 00:19:06,179
She doesn't want the living here.
383
00:19:06,183 --> 00:19:07,882
I think she was wealthy.
384
00:19:07,886 --> 00:19:12,524
What I see from her past is
a very dysfunctional family.
385
00:19:15,003 --> 00:19:17,339
I don't think she had a very good life.
386
00:19:19,544 --> 00:19:22,215
So somebody was tugging on me.
387
00:19:22,219 --> 00:19:24,818
Okay. She's a little kid.
388
00:19:24,823 --> 00:19:30,995
Kind of feel like she might have drowned...
389
00:19:33,171 --> 00:19:35,340
but, like, in an outside water,
390
00:19:35,344 --> 00:19:41,815
like, in, like,
a creek or lake or something.
391
00:19:41,823 --> 00:19:44,257
You aren't kidding when you said
392
00:19:44,262 --> 00:19:46,830
there was tragedy with this family.
393
00:19:46,834 --> 00:19:48,501
Right, and, actually, that's not it.
394
00:19:48,505 --> 00:19:49,604
There was something else.
395
00:19:49,607 --> 00:19:52,308
In 1859, Joseph Bossier got involved
396
00:19:52,312 --> 00:19:55,214
with a man named J.M. Vernon.
397
00:19:55,219 --> 00:19:57,716
And he was his business partner,
398
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,989
and, like all of Bossier's
business dealings, it went sour.
399
00:20:02,597 --> 00:20:04,731
J.M. Vernon was a newspaper editor,
400
00:20:04,735 --> 00:20:06,168
so to get Bossier back,
401
00:20:06,171 --> 00:20:09,342
he actually wrote some nasty
things about him in the paper.
402
00:20:09,347 --> 00:20:12,481
Okay. So, what does this guy
Bossier do about this slander?
403
00:20:12,486 --> 00:20:14,886
Well, he actually went to find Vernon
404
00:20:14,890 --> 00:20:16,593
in a New Orleans courthouse.
405
00:20:16,597 --> 00:20:18,999
Okay. And he brought a gun,
406
00:20:19,003 --> 00:20:22,204
and he drew his gun,
but Vernon was a faster draw.
407
00:20:22,209 --> 00:20:25,077
Vernon shot Bossier four times
408
00:20:25,081 --> 00:20:28,250
in the hands, face, ribs, and mouth.
409
00:20:28,255 --> 00:20:31,056
Okay. Does he die?
410
00:20:31,061 --> 00:20:33,827
12 days later, he died,
leaving Frances a widow.
411
00:20:33,831 --> 00:20:35,865
Huh.
412
00:20:37,939 --> 00:20:40,207
This guy who hangs out in this tree
413
00:20:40,211 --> 00:20:43,277
[bleep] there's a really bad
pain associated with him.
414
00:20:43,282 --> 00:20:46,783
And then I am feeling like
something hit me here.
415
00:20:46,788 --> 00:20:49,053
I got to just kind of let this go
416
00:20:49,058 --> 00:20:52,090
'cause it's really kind of
messing me up a little bit.
417
00:20:52,094 --> 00:20:53,261
[Sighs]
418
00:20:53,264 --> 00:20:56,067
I'm trying to learn more
about the man in the tree
419
00:20:56,072 --> 00:20:59,040
who's attached himself to
a living male in the house,
420
00:20:59,045 --> 00:21:02,315
but all I'm getting is intense
pain in the back of my head.
421
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,891
And then I hear a gunshot
right next to my ear,
422
00:21:05,896 --> 00:21:07,997
and that's how he died.
423
00:21:09,670 --> 00:21:11,570
I don't know if it's self-inflicted
424
00:21:11,573 --> 00:21:13,072
or if he was shot in the head.
425
00:21:13,076 --> 00:21:14,643
God [bleep]
426
00:21:14,646 --> 00:21:16,416
This [bleep] hurts.
427
00:21:16,420 --> 00:21:18,688
I can't even concentrate.
428
00:21:18,692 --> 00:21:21,160
[Sighs]
429
00:21:35,087 --> 00:21:38,199
STEVE: This guy Joseph Bossier
sounds like a real loose cannon,
430
00:21:38,302 --> 00:21:40,434
and I want to know if
there's more to his story.
431
00:21:40,438 --> 00:21:42,137
But I've actually managed
432
00:21:42,239 --> 00:21:44,308
to track down one of his descendants
433
00:21:44,312 --> 00:21:46,977
who says his life was so wild,
it could be made into a movie.
434
00:21:56,166 --> 00:21:58,198
STEVE: So, Rene, the reason I contacted you
435
00:21:58,202 --> 00:22:00,100
was I did an interview about
the first owners of the property
436
00:22:00,103 --> 00:22:02,503
I'm investigating,
and Joseph Bossier came up.
437
00:22:02,508 --> 00:22:04,174
Now, you're related to him.
438
00:22:04,177 --> 00:22:05,645
I am.
439
00:22:05,648 --> 00:22:07,079
I am his fifth great-granddaughter.
440
00:22:07,083 --> 00:22:09,215
- This is him?
- That's him.
441
00:22:09,219 --> 00:22:12,488
So eventually he winds up with
the property I'm investigating.
442
00:22:12,493 --> 00:22:14,226
But before that, what do you know about him?
443
00:22:14,229 --> 00:22:17,366
Well, he was in the Navy when he was 11.
444
00:22:17,371 --> 00:22:19,507
He got kicked out because
he stole something.
445
00:22:19,511 --> 00:22:22,413
Then he was in the Army when he turned 12.
446
00:22:22,418 --> 00:22:24,714
I don't know why he was
discharged from the Army
447
00:22:24,718 --> 00:22:26,318
- at age 12.
- Okay.
448
00:22:26,322 --> 00:22:29,291
Then he became a mercenary for
several different countries...
449
00:22:29,295 --> 00:22:31,794
France, Russia, Spain, Britain, Egypt.
450
00:22:31,799 --> 00:22:33,198
Wow.
451
00:22:33,201 --> 00:22:36,135
I bet even his time overseas
wasn't gonna be a quiet one.
452
00:22:36,140 --> 00:22:38,274
No. In the British Navy, as a mercenary,
453
00:22:38,278 --> 00:22:40,612
he was accused of drowning a crew member.
454
00:22:40,616 --> 00:22:43,381
Then he built a ship.
455
00:22:43,385 --> 00:22:44,585
- He did?
- Yeah.
456
00:22:44,589 --> 00:22:46,291
He played pirate.
457
00:22:46,294 --> 00:22:47,792
Pirate?
458
00:22:47,795 --> 00:22:49,094
Where did he do that?
459
00:22:49,098 --> 00:22:50,731
Right out here in New Orleans.
460
00:22:50,734 --> 00:22:52,768
When you say he played pirate,
did he actually rob people?
461
00:22:52,772 --> 00:22:53,839
No.
462
00:22:53,842 --> 00:22:56,545
He would see other ships out in the Gulf,
463
00:22:56,550 --> 00:22:58,918
and he would know that
they were his friends.
464
00:22:58,922 --> 00:23:00,054
Okay.
465
00:23:00,057 --> 00:23:01,623
So he would raise the skull and crossbones,
466
00:23:01,626 --> 00:23:03,158
and he would board their ship.
467
00:23:03,162 --> 00:23:05,198
So, he was just out in
the water, playing...
468
00:23:05,202 --> 00:23:06,833
Except for one time.
469
00:23:06,836 --> 00:23:08,168
What happened?
470
00:23:08,171 --> 00:23:11,940
Well, he thought it was his
friend when he boarded the ship,
471
00:23:11,946 --> 00:23:13,645
but it wasn't who he thought it was.
472
00:23:13,648 --> 00:23:15,815
Him and his crew member got beaten
473
00:23:15,819 --> 00:23:18,320
within an inch of their life.
474
00:23:18,325 --> 00:23:19,557
Wow.
475
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,459
- Does he ever get charged with anything?
- No.
476
00:23:21,463 --> 00:23:23,763
He ends up suing the captain
477
00:23:23,767 --> 00:23:25,466
for damages to his health and reputation.
478
00:23:25,469 --> 00:23:26,869
[Scoffs] Okay.
479
00:23:26,873 --> 00:23:29,507
This guy was really something else.
480
00:23:34,487 --> 00:23:38,321
AMY: There's something with military here.
481
00:23:38,326 --> 00:23:40,895
Something.
482
00:23:44,638 --> 00:23:47,038
This guy who hangs out in a tree,
483
00:23:47,042 --> 00:23:50,510
he was in the military.
484
00:23:50,516 --> 00:23:53,585
Yeah. He got twisted in the head.
485
00:23:53,589 --> 00:23:56,921
Yeah, he did. He got real [bleep] up.
486
00:23:56,926 --> 00:24:00,495
He's saying to me that, you know,
487
00:24:00,501 --> 00:24:07,573
a lot of things that he
did was due to his head,
488
00:24:07,581 --> 00:24:12,684
being, you know, messed up.
489
00:24:12,691 --> 00:24:17,030
Do you know when this is from?
490
00:24:17,036 --> 00:24:18,838
This is...
491
00:24:22,082 --> 00:24:23,116
[Bleep]
492
00:24:24,555 --> 00:24:28,023
You know, he's not denying that
a part of him didn't like it.
493
00:24:28,028 --> 00:24:30,362
You know, a part of him liked it,
494
00:24:30,366 --> 00:24:32,264
but he's saying,
495
00:24:32,268 --> 00:24:37,670
"I saw a lot of horrible things,
and it ruined me.
496
00:24:37,677 --> 00:24:40,540
It ruined me."
497
00:24:43,848 --> 00:24:46,584
STEVE: So far, I know the original
owner of my client's land
498
00:24:46,588 --> 00:24:49,722
was a reckless mercenary
who wound up murdered.
499
00:24:51,029 --> 00:24:54,327
But I need to see if there's anything
else that could help my case.
500
00:24:54,332 --> 00:24:57,468
Searching through old records,
501
00:24:57,473 --> 00:25:00,711
I find a man named Frank Lenel,
who killed himself.
502
00:25:00,716 --> 00:25:04,618
But the reasons are unclear.
503
00:25:04,623 --> 00:25:07,660
So I've asked a local
archivist to meet me here.
504
00:25:07,665 --> 00:25:11,267
He says the tragedies this man
suffered could help my case.
505
00:25:15,448 --> 00:25:16,915
So, Bill,
I found that article about this guy Lenel
506
00:25:16,919 --> 00:25:18,252
that killed himself.
507
00:25:18,255 --> 00:25:20,459
Do you know how he came
about being on the property?
508
00:25:20,463 --> 00:25:24,800
Frank married Louisa Schultz in 1858.
509
00:25:24,806 --> 00:25:26,939
And a year later, her father died,
510
00:25:26,943 --> 00:25:29,779
and she inherited hundreds
of acres of property.
511
00:25:29,783 --> 00:25:31,218
And the house was on that property.
512
00:25:31,222 --> 00:25:32,888
Okay. So, now, the article said it was 1880
513
00:25:32,891 --> 00:25:34,156
when he killed himself.
514
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,325
So, what happens before that? I mean...
515
00:25:36,329 --> 00:25:38,431
He and Louisa had about six children,
516
00:25:38,435 --> 00:25:42,136
and then, unfortunately, in 1871, she died.
517
00:25:42,142 --> 00:25:43,978
She was 36 years old.
518
00:25:43,982 --> 00:25:45,748
Okay. So she's young when she died.
519
00:25:45,751 --> 00:25:47,216
Do we know what she died of?
520
00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:48,952
No, we weren't able to find that.
521
00:25:48,955 --> 00:25:50,654
Then, the next year,
522
00:25:50,658 --> 00:25:53,928
he remarries a woman by the
name of Elizabeth Davis.
523
00:25:53,933 --> 00:25:56,466
That was in 1872.
524
00:25:56,470 --> 00:25:59,371
The area was building up quite a bit.
525
00:25:59,376 --> 00:26:03,180
And because of the trains coming
in and the population expansion,
526
00:26:03,185 --> 00:26:06,419
he decided, as an entrepreneur,
to open a hotel,
527
00:26:06,424 --> 00:26:08,557
which he was able to do in 1880.
528
00:26:08,561 --> 00:26:10,258
That's the same year he kills himself.
529
00:26:10,262 --> 00:26:11,761
Correct.
530
00:26:11,764 --> 00:26:13,997
Now, you would think opening up
a hotel would be a good thing.
531
00:26:14,001 --> 00:26:15,067
You would think so,
532
00:26:15,070 --> 00:26:17,337
but three months before he opened the hotel,
533
00:26:17,341 --> 00:26:19,775
his second wife died of unknown causes.
534
00:26:19,780 --> 00:26:21,213
She was 43 years old.
535
00:26:21,216 --> 00:26:22,450
Wow.
536
00:26:22,453 --> 00:26:24,521
Did he live long enough
to see the hotel open?
537
00:26:24,525 --> 00:26:27,628
Well, he did open the hotel successfully,
538
00:26:27,633 --> 00:26:29,632
and it was a month later
that he killed himself.
539
00:26:29,636 --> 00:26:32,571
In fact, he was found in the woods
540
00:26:32,576 --> 00:26:35,878
about a mile and a quarter from the hotel.
541
00:26:35,883 --> 00:26:38,720
And at the coroner's inquest,
they determined
542
00:26:38,724 --> 00:26:42,563
that he had shot himself with
a pistol through the chin,
543
00:26:42,569 --> 00:26:43,734
into the brain.
544
00:26:43,737 --> 00:26:45,338
Okay.
545
00:26:51,821 --> 00:26:54,953
AMY: During my walk,
I saw a dead man in the trees.
546
00:26:54,958 --> 00:26:56,925
I'm meeting with a sketch artist
547
00:26:56,929 --> 00:26:59,229
to draw him as he appeared in life.
548
00:26:59,233 --> 00:27:01,866
He was in his 40s.
549
00:27:01,871 --> 00:27:05,303
He mouth is kind of feminine-looking,
550
00:27:05,308 --> 00:27:08,478
and his hair is slicked back.
551
00:27:08,483 --> 00:27:10,781
Next, I describe the disturbing scene
552
00:27:10,785 --> 00:27:13,018
I witnessed in a little girl's room.
553
00:27:13,022 --> 00:27:15,890
There was a dead woman.
554
00:27:15,895 --> 00:27:20,264
And behind the child, there was this thing.
555
00:27:20,270 --> 00:27:25,508
And it has wings, like,
almost encasing his body.
556
00:27:31,291 --> 00:27:33,860
Amy, is this what you saw?
557
00:27:36,436 --> 00:27:37,737
Yes, that's what I saw.
558
00:27:58,806 --> 00:28:01,772
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
559
00:28:01,777 --> 00:28:04,244
we're ready to reveal our
findings to each other
560
00:28:04,248 --> 00:28:06,751
and our clients for the first time.
561
00:28:06,756 --> 00:28:10,289
Now, Amy,
I want you to meet Rhonda and Scott.
562
00:28:10,294 --> 00:28:14,864
Rhonda lives in the house with
her three beautiful young kids.
563
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:19,900
Scott is their father
and Rhonda's ex-husband.
564
00:28:19,907 --> 00:28:22,106
He lived in the house for a while,
565
00:28:22,110 --> 00:28:24,512
and you've been out for
about three years now?
566
00:28:24,516 --> 00:28:26,483
But he's a skeptic,
and Rhonda wanted him here
567
00:28:26,487 --> 00:28:28,719
just so he could know the
hell that she's going through
568
00:28:28,723 --> 00:28:30,254
with the kids.
569
00:28:30,257 --> 00:28:33,123
Now, you asked me to not
hold the reveal in the house.
570
00:28:33,128 --> 00:28:35,327
And that's the first time
you've ever done that,
571
00:28:35,331 --> 00:28:37,062
so I'm curious as to why.
572
00:28:37,066 --> 00:28:41,329
Well, there's a lot going on there.
573
00:28:41,335 --> 00:28:47,199
And I personally felt that
I was physically in danger.
574
00:28:49,306 --> 00:28:52,344
During my walk, there was this man
575
00:28:52,349 --> 00:28:56,885
who was up in a tree,
576
00:28:56,891 --> 00:29:02,093
and what he was doing,
basically, was watching people.
577
00:29:02,100 --> 00:29:03,567
It was disturbing.
578
00:29:04,972 --> 00:29:07,475
He was saying that he had attached himself
579
00:29:07,479 --> 00:29:09,781
to a male in the house,
580
00:29:09,785 --> 00:29:14,989
that he felt like this person
was a kindred spirit to him
581
00:29:14,996 --> 00:29:17,031
and that he really enjoyed this
582
00:29:17,035 --> 00:29:19,504
because he had been lonely for so long.
583
00:29:19,508 --> 00:29:22,444
Now, these guys built the house in 2004,
584
00:29:22,449 --> 00:29:25,086
and Scott's the only guy
that lived in the house.
585
00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:26,089
Mm-hmm.
586
00:29:26,092 --> 00:29:27,490
Now, I got to ask you a question.
587
00:29:27,493 --> 00:29:30,661
If this guy attached himself to Scott,
let's say,
588
00:29:30,666 --> 00:29:32,763
would it change his behavior?
589
00:29:32,767 --> 00:29:34,499
It's possible.
590
00:29:34,503 --> 00:29:37,264
RHONDA: The whole time
we were living there,
591
00:29:37,268 --> 00:29:39,232
everything about his
personality was different.
592
00:29:39,236 --> 00:29:42,502
And so was it anger?
593
00:29:42,507 --> 00:29:45,075
Yes, with everybody.
594
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,547
SCOTT: My personality did
change while in the house,
595
00:29:47,551 --> 00:29:49,517
and particularly toward the end there,
596
00:29:49,521 --> 00:29:51,520
I mean, I was getting really aggressive.
597
00:29:51,524 --> 00:29:54,388
And I think that contributed to,
probably, the final breakup.
598
00:29:56,598 --> 00:29:58,233
Now, did you get anything about this guy,
599
00:29:58,237 --> 00:30:00,304
who he might have been when he was alive?
600
00:30:00,308 --> 00:30:02,740
What I was able to get from this individual
601
00:30:02,744 --> 00:30:04,676
was something about the military.
602
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,916
I believe he was in the military.
603
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:11,256
And what he said was that when
he went into the military,
604
00:30:11,262 --> 00:30:14,631
he saw a lot of things that disturbed him.
605
00:30:14,636 --> 00:30:17,502
So he admits that he got a
little messed up in the head
606
00:30:17,507 --> 00:30:20,174
from this whole experience.
607
00:30:20,178 --> 00:30:23,814
Then I heard the gunshot by my ear
608
00:30:23,820 --> 00:30:26,520
and was obviously feeling this pain.
609
00:30:26,524 --> 00:30:31,359
What he looked like, in his death state,
610
00:30:31,366 --> 00:30:33,738
was a disaster.
611
00:30:33,742 --> 00:30:35,840
There was a couple guys on your property,
612
00:30:35,844 --> 00:30:39,778
going back with the history,
that died from gunshot wounds.
613
00:30:39,783 --> 00:30:42,051
There's one guy in particular,
614
00:30:42,055 --> 00:30:43,523
what she's describing makes me think of.
615
00:30:43,527 --> 00:30:46,697
His name was Joseph Bossier and his wife,
Frances,
616
00:30:46,702 --> 00:30:48,468
were the two first recorded
owners of the property
617
00:30:48,471 --> 00:30:50,036
you guys live on.
618
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,974
You mentioned this guy was in the military,
right?
619
00:30:51,978 --> 00:30:53,345
- Yeah.
- Okay.
620
00:30:53,348 --> 00:30:56,047
So now, in 1814, at the age of 11,
he joins the Navy.
621
00:30:56,051 --> 00:30:57,485
Geez.
622
00:30:57,489 --> 00:30:59,088
But he was discharged for theft.
623
00:30:59,091 --> 00:31:01,423
1815, he joins the Army.
624
00:31:01,427 --> 00:31:04,992
This time,
he was discharged for unknown reasons.
625
00:31:04,998 --> 00:31:06,963
His involvement in the
military doesn't stop there.
626
00:31:06,967 --> 00:31:11,438
Between the years of 1816 and 1823,
627
00:31:11,444 --> 00:31:14,845
he served as a mercenary in
five different navies in Europe.
628
00:31:14,850 --> 00:31:16,116
- No way.
- Yeah.
629
00:31:16,119 --> 00:31:19,685
He served in France, Egypt,
Russia, Britain, and Spain.
630
00:31:19,690 --> 00:31:22,489
Now, he got thrown out of the British Navy
631
00:31:22,494 --> 00:31:26,061
because he was accused of
drowning another crew member.
632
00:31:26,066 --> 00:31:29,433
Now, you said this guy
died from a gunshot wound.
633
00:31:29,438 --> 00:31:32,375
In 1859, Bossier gets into a nasty dispute
634
00:31:32,380 --> 00:31:36,612
with a business partner of his,
who was a guy named J.M. Vernon.
635
00:31:36,618 --> 00:31:38,251
He was also a newspaper editor.
636
00:31:38,254 --> 00:31:41,423
Now, Vernon printed some pretty nasty,
disparaging things
637
00:31:41,428 --> 00:31:42,927
about Bossier,
638
00:31:42,931 --> 00:31:46,433
so Bossier found out that he was
gonna be at a courthouse one day,
639
00:31:46,438 --> 00:31:49,143
and he decided to go down there
and confront him about this
640
00:31:49,148 --> 00:31:50,216
with a gun.
641
00:31:50,219 --> 00:31:52,620
Vernon, actually, was a quicker draw
642
00:31:52,624 --> 00:31:55,158
and pulled out his gun
and shot him four times...
643
00:31:55,162 --> 00:31:58,264
the hand, the mouth, the
face, and the ribs.
644
00:31:58,269 --> 00:32:00,769
Take a look at the guy's portrait.
645
00:32:00,773 --> 00:32:03,407
That's Joseph Bossier.
646
00:32:03,412 --> 00:32:07,582
So, is this who you think
you might have seen?
647
00:32:07,588 --> 00:32:10,723
Well, I did a sketch of the person I saw.
648
00:32:17,474 --> 00:32:18,607
Wow.
649
00:32:24,850 --> 00:32:26,450
That's the sketch.
650
00:32:26,453 --> 00:32:29,056
Now look at the portrait.
651
00:32:32,030 --> 00:32:35,368
Looks like the same guy.
652
00:32:35,373 --> 00:32:38,674
It's about as good a sketch and
a portrait as you're gonna get.
653
00:32:41,052 --> 00:32:45,726
Unfortunately,
he felt that you guys were kind of similar,
654
00:32:45,732 --> 00:32:47,032
which is kind of weird.
655
00:32:47,035 --> 00:32:49,203
My personality and his personality
656
00:32:49,207 --> 00:32:51,007
- were like kindred spirits?
- Yeah.
657
00:32:51,011 --> 00:32:52,711
I got to be honest with you.
658
00:32:52,714 --> 00:32:54,646
When I spoke to your ex-wife,
she made it sound like
659
00:32:54,650 --> 00:32:56,316
you were pretty reckless on certain things.
660
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,554
Oh, yeah. I've been notorious.
661
00:32:59,559 --> 00:33:01,327
As far as what?
662
00:33:01,330 --> 00:33:04,332
Making decisions that just made
my life a lot more difficult
663
00:33:04,337 --> 00:33:06,503
if I would have made the right decisions.
664
00:33:11,215 --> 00:33:14,215
How did the rest of the walk go?
665
00:33:14,219 --> 00:33:18,421
So then I went upstairs,
and I met this old lady
666
00:33:18,427 --> 00:33:25,196
that she has a very strong sense
of ownership over the house.
667
00:33:25,204 --> 00:33:27,801
I think at one point that
she owned the property.
668
00:33:27,806 --> 00:33:29,372
But for whatever reason,
669
00:33:29,375 --> 00:33:32,144
she's honed in on your house specifically.
670
00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:35,013
While she was alive,
she was [bleep] about her family.
671
00:33:35,018 --> 00:33:38,684
So she came from a very
dysfunctional family.
672
00:33:38,689 --> 00:33:41,090
She did indicate that she was wealthy,
673
00:33:41,094 --> 00:33:43,824
and I just felt, like,
a sense of isolation.
674
00:33:43,829 --> 00:33:47,330
Like, I do think that she really
just pushed everybody away
675
00:33:47,335 --> 00:33:49,435
because of her attitude problem.
676
00:33:49,439 --> 00:33:51,973
Some of what you're
saying could be his wife
677
00:33:51,977 --> 00:33:55,278
because she did come from wealth.
678
00:33:55,283 --> 00:33:58,787
Now, her name was Frances Bossier.
679
00:33:58,793 --> 00:34:01,227
She inherited the 100 acres
that your house sits on.
680
00:34:01,231 --> 00:34:05,067
This is actually the
deed for her 100 acres.
681
00:34:05,072 --> 00:34:07,874
She actually even sued to
get his name off the deed
682
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:09,679
'cause he was so reckless with money.
683
00:34:09,683 --> 00:34:10,781
Surprisingly, they stayed married, though.
684
00:34:10,784 --> 00:34:12,284
Interesting.
685
00:34:17,598 --> 00:34:19,701
So, does the woman do
anything to the living
686
00:34:19,705 --> 00:34:21,471
- that are in the house?
- Yes.
687
00:34:21,475 --> 00:34:24,110
She has a very big problem with you.
688
00:34:24,114 --> 00:34:27,017
She admitted that she was physical
689
00:34:27,022 --> 00:34:30,621
and that she was trying
to drive you insane.
690
00:34:32,693 --> 00:34:35,729
What about the physical stuff?
What are we talking about?
691
00:34:35,734 --> 00:34:37,869
She said beating, like hitting.
692
00:34:37,873 --> 00:34:39,705
So I thought, you know, she's beating.
693
00:34:39,708 --> 00:34:42,672
I don't know. Hitting, pinching, shoving.
694
00:34:42,677 --> 00:34:47,112
Well, Rhonda and her daughter
have gotten physical injuries.
695
00:34:47,118 --> 00:34:48,150
They get scratches.
696
00:34:50,124 --> 00:34:53,591
Okay. That's not good.
697
00:34:53,596 --> 00:34:58,333
The one physical thing that
she showed me that she did
698
00:34:58,340 --> 00:35:01,007
was she would literally sit on you.
699
00:35:01,011 --> 00:35:02,410
RHONDA: Oh, my God.
700
00:35:02,413 --> 00:35:05,682
I felt somebody crawl on the bed
before and, like, sit on it.
701
00:35:05,687 --> 00:35:07,453
- Mm-hmm.
- And the bed went down.
702
00:35:07,457 --> 00:35:13,060
Okay, okay. This is really bad.
703
00:35:15,505 --> 00:35:18,676
During my walk, I got that a living woman
704
00:35:18,681 --> 00:35:23,486
was getting very sick from
being exposed to the dead.
705
00:35:23,492 --> 00:35:25,761
I got that it had been going on a few years
706
00:35:25,765 --> 00:35:28,164
and that it had incapacitated this person
707
00:35:28,168 --> 00:35:32,102
and that there had been
several hospital visits.
708
00:35:32,108 --> 00:35:36,713
I've been sick every day
for almost 11 years now.
709
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:42,693
Nobody knows what happened to me,
why I'm in pain.
710
00:35:42,701 --> 00:35:45,270
I'm incapacitated.
I'll be in bed for weeks at a time.
711
00:35:45,274 --> 00:35:51,007
It's...
it's taken over my life and ruined it.
712
00:35:51,014 --> 00:35:53,314
You got a lot going on so far.
713
00:35:53,319 --> 00:35:57,385
But I know that wasn't the
finish of your walk, was it?
714
00:35:57,390 --> 00:35:58,823
No.
715
00:35:58,827 --> 00:36:01,062
How much more can we take?
716
00:36:01,066 --> 00:36:05,065
So after I left the master bedroom,
717
00:36:05,070 --> 00:36:10,474
I went down the hallway where the kids'
rooms are.
718
00:36:10,481 --> 00:36:16,418
And I saw a little girl sitting
cross-legged on the floor,
719
00:36:16,426 --> 00:36:19,094
talking to the dead lady.
720
00:36:19,098 --> 00:36:21,167
And I tried to go in the room.
721
00:36:21,171 --> 00:36:23,339
I couldn't go in the room.
722
00:36:23,343 --> 00:36:25,009
And that's never happened before.
723
00:36:25,013 --> 00:36:31,916
And then I saw this thing that
I have never seen with a kid.
724
00:36:31,924 --> 00:36:35,225
And that really bothered me.
725
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,469
It can take on different forms.
726
00:36:38,472 --> 00:36:40,539
You know, it can be short or tall.
727
00:36:40,543 --> 00:36:43,009
It can take on an animal-like form.
728
00:36:43,014 --> 00:36:46,615
The one feature that it consistently has
729
00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:48,552
is these wings,
730
00:36:48,556 --> 00:36:51,758
but they're not fully formed.
731
00:36:51,763 --> 00:36:53,896
Well, this gave me a little bit of a chill,
which I never get.
732
00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:56,334
And the only reason I got
a little chill from it
733
00:36:56,338 --> 00:36:58,402
is because when I interviewed Scarlett,
734
00:36:58,406 --> 00:36:59,804
she described seeing a woman
735
00:36:59,807 --> 00:37:04,009
and this creepy,
scaly thing that was crouched down.
736
00:37:05,583 --> 00:37:09,052
And she said it was almost like an alien
737
00:37:09,058 --> 00:37:11,225
but with scales and stuff.
738
00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:13,929
She ever mention that to you?
739
00:37:13,933 --> 00:37:16,669
She told me she's seeing
things in the playroom
740
00:37:16,674 --> 00:37:18,371
that look like aliens.
741
00:37:21,113 --> 00:37:24,082
I had a sketch done of what I saw.
742
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,009
Just be prepared for what you're gonna see.
743
00:37:37,014 --> 00:37:38,981
God.
744
00:37:51,902 --> 00:37:55,437
AMY: I had a sketch done of what I saw.
745
00:38:04,154 --> 00:38:06,751
Just be prepared for what you're gonna see.
746
00:38:06,755 --> 00:38:08,755
RHONDA: God.
747
00:38:16,308 --> 00:38:18,776
Gilby sees this and Scarlett.
748
00:38:18,780 --> 00:38:23,185
I never want that to happen again.
749
00:38:23,191 --> 00:38:30,095
Never want my children
to experience that again.
750
00:38:30,104 --> 00:38:33,505
I almost get a feeling it's
like the angel of death.
751
00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:35,244
Oh, no. This is no angel.
752
00:38:37,350 --> 00:38:39,883
Well, it was interesting you said
"like the angel of death."
753
00:38:39,888 --> 00:38:42,188
It's not death.
754
00:38:42,192 --> 00:38:44,527
For lack of a better term,
755
00:38:44,531 --> 00:38:47,931
I guess you would call
them demons and devils.
756
00:38:47,936 --> 00:38:50,236
But they're not that.
757
00:38:50,240 --> 00:38:52,409
They're worse.
758
00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:55,480
And when I've seen it,
it's been with drug addicts,
759
00:38:55,485 --> 00:39:00,017
alcoholics, you know, severe addictions.
760
00:39:00,023 --> 00:39:05,827
So to see it with a child
was utterly bizarre.
761
00:39:05,835 --> 00:39:08,906
This sucker is really evil.
762
00:39:08,911 --> 00:39:11,812
They don't instigate the addiction.
763
00:39:11,816 --> 00:39:16,753
It comes when the person's in
the throes of an addiction,
764
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:21,860
and it pushes them over the
edge and leads them to death.
765
00:39:21,867 --> 00:39:23,434
And then it keeps their soul.
766
00:39:23,437 --> 00:39:27,468
And it tortures them for eternity.
767
00:39:29,641 --> 00:39:31,711
I've had a problem with drug addictions.
768
00:39:32,883 --> 00:39:36,722
Well, more than likely,
you brought it into the house.
769
00:39:36,727 --> 00:39:39,663
So I'm thinking,
if you got out of your addiction,
770
00:39:39,668 --> 00:39:40,802
maybe he's pissed.
771
00:39:40,805 --> 00:39:42,672
Mm.
772
00:39:42,676 --> 00:39:44,076
He didn't get you.
773
00:39:44,079 --> 00:39:46,179
And then he saw something easier.
774
00:39:48,854 --> 00:39:53,324
I'm in pain a lot, so I take medicine now,
775
00:39:53,330 --> 00:39:54,996
but I'm not addicted to medicine.
776
00:39:54,999 --> 00:39:56,599
Okay.
777
00:39:56,603 --> 00:40:00,640
The problem is,
this thing wants you to become to addicted.
778
00:40:06,121 --> 00:40:10,025
Well, we've had some disturbing
and upsetting reveals before
779
00:40:10,030 --> 00:40:12,764
but, honestly, nothing quite like this.
780
00:40:12,769 --> 00:40:14,635
And, Rhonda, I'm so sorry that
this happened in your house.
781
00:40:14,638 --> 00:40:15,636
I really am.
782
00:40:15,639 --> 00:40:17,205
But now we're gonna find out
783
00:40:17,209 --> 00:40:19,276
if there's anything you can do about it.
784
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,618
And I'm hoping Amy has an answer for you.
785
00:40:27,028 --> 00:40:29,332
You do need to get a medium
786
00:40:29,336 --> 00:40:34,742
and cleanse your house of
the dead that are there
787
00:40:34,749 --> 00:40:38,918
and seal your property so
the dead cannot come back in.
788
00:40:38,924 --> 00:40:42,827
But as far as this thing goes,
789
00:40:42,833 --> 00:40:47,437
the only solution that
there is is in your hands.
790
00:40:50,817 --> 00:40:53,986
It's not something that
somebody can come in
791
00:40:53,991 --> 00:40:55,759
and take care of for you.
792
00:40:57,266 --> 00:41:00,269
Not a lot of people get this warning,
793
00:41:00,274 --> 00:41:03,410
and that's exactly what
this is is a warning.
794
00:41:03,415 --> 00:41:08,416
These are the three reasons
that this needs to stop.
795
00:41:09,890 --> 00:41:13,725
I mean, this thing, it kills people.
796
00:41:18,738 --> 00:41:20,105
I want it away from us.
797
00:41:23,213 --> 00:41:26,982
If I can change whatever's causing the pain
798
00:41:26,987 --> 00:41:29,953
and then start to get healthy again,
799
00:41:29,958 --> 00:41:31,758
get off the medication.
800
00:41:33,963 --> 00:41:36,860
It's gonna take some work.
We've got some work to do.
801
00:41:38,365 --> 00:41:40,166
You think you're gonna
be able to handle this?
802
00:41:40,170 --> 00:41:42,035
Mm-hmm.
803
00:41:42,038 --> 00:41:44,771
I'll get it done.
804
00:41:44,776 --> 00:41:46,777
Whatever I need to do,
I'll take care of it.
805
00:41:48,784 --> 00:41:51,018
AMY: I really feel for Rhonda,
806
00:41:51,022 --> 00:41:55,158
as the entities terrorizing her
family present a serious danger.
807
00:41:55,164 --> 00:41:58,897
But I believe if she cleanses
her house of all the dead
808
00:41:58,902 --> 00:42:02,169
and never feeds this demon
what it's looking for,
809
00:42:02,174 --> 00:42:04,877
she and her family should live in peace.
810
00:42:04,927 --> 00:42:09,477
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