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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,620 --> 00:00:14,489 "This is the room, the room of death." 2 00:00:14,491 --> 00:00:17,559 I can't have that in my home. I can't have that going on. 3 00:00:17,561 --> 00:00:18,760 It scared me to death. 4 00:00:18,762 --> 00:00:20,963 It's coming after this kid. 5 00:00:20,965 --> 00:00:23,465 I love my family. I will fight for it. 6 00:00:23,467 --> 00:00:26,068 This is dark and bloody ground here. 7 00:00:26,070 --> 00:00:27,703 It could hurt her. 8 00:00:27,705 --> 00:00:30,105 I'm worried for the safety of his kid. 9 00:00:30,107 --> 00:00:33,141 He says, "They broke my bones." 10 00:00:33,143 --> 00:00:37,446 This is a mess. This is so messed up. 11 00:00:37,448 --> 00:00:40,280 "You're mine. You can't escape." 12 00:00:40,380 --> 00:00:42,643 My name is Amy Allan. 13 00:00:42,743 --> 00:00:44,776 [Crying] What's happening? 14 00:00:44,778 --> 00:00:45,877 I see dead people. 15 00:00:45,879 --> 00:00:48,313 It seems like a devil. 16 00:00:48,315 --> 00:00:50,949 I speak to dead people. 17 00:00:50,951 --> 00:00:51,950 He's pissed off. 18 00:00:51,952 --> 00:00:53,118 And they speak to me. 19 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,253 I felt real fear. 20 00:00:55,255 --> 00:00:58,223 But there's only one way to know if my findings are real. 21 00:00:58,225 --> 00:01:00,225 I think she's being murdered. 22 00:01:00,227 --> 00:01:01,827 I rely on my partner. 23 00:01:01,829 --> 00:01:03,095 I'm Steve Di Schiavi. 24 00:01:03,097 --> 00:01:05,097 I'm a retired New York City homicide detective. 25 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:07,199 Serial killer pops in my head. 26 00:01:07,201 --> 00:01:10,402 And I know every person, every house has secrets. 27 00:01:10,404 --> 00:01:11,603 Nobody believes me. 28 00:01:11,605 --> 00:01:13,071 It's my job to reveal them. 29 00:01:13,073 --> 00:01:15,340 - Do you think there's still bodies there? - I do. 30 00:01:15,342 --> 00:01:17,075 But Steve and I never speak... 31 00:01:17,077 --> 00:01:19,111 We never communicate during an investigation. 32 00:01:19,113 --> 00:01:20,312 Until the very end. 33 00:01:20,314 --> 00:01:22,114 You got problems. I got news for you. 34 00:01:22,116 --> 00:01:24,282 When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay... 35 00:01:24,284 --> 00:01:26,351 This is our house... whether they like it or not. 36 00:01:26,353 --> 00:01:28,020 Or time to get out. 37 00:01:28,022 --> 00:01:30,689 This is their house, the house of the dead. 38 00:01:31,272 --> 00:01:36,172 - Sync and corrected by TheDelta - - www.addic7ed.com - 39 00:01:47,407 --> 00:01:49,541 STEVE: I'm in Fort Barnwell, North Carolina. 40 00:01:49,543 --> 00:01:53,512 It's a very small town about two hours outside of Raleigh. 41 00:01:53,514 --> 00:01:56,815 Amy and I were called in by a woman named Laura. 42 00:01:56,817 --> 00:01:59,201 She says things are so bad in the house, 43 00:01:59,203 --> 00:02:02,621 she's ready to pack her bags, grab her 2-year-old, and leave. 44 00:02:02,623 --> 00:02:06,258 The problem is, her husband wants to stay and fight. 45 00:02:06,260 --> 00:02:08,360 She told me she's running out of options 46 00:02:08,362 --> 00:02:09,594 and we're her last hope. 47 00:02:12,698 --> 00:02:15,050 MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives, 48 00:02:15,052 --> 00:02:17,903 I look for any leading information. 49 00:02:17,905 --> 00:02:21,673 This house has a lot of artwork and family photos 50 00:02:21,675 --> 00:02:24,509 that need to be covered or removed. 51 00:02:24,511 --> 00:02:26,578 When I'm done, 52 00:02:26,580 --> 00:02:28,997 the location will be ready for tonight's walk. 53 00:02:43,246 --> 00:02:45,097 AMY: Oh, boy. 54 00:02:49,936 --> 00:02:55,941 There's a big problem in one of rooms here. 55 00:02:55,943 --> 00:02:59,177 There's a lot of dead people there. 56 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:02,581 And they can't see each other, but they can see the living. 57 00:03:02,583 --> 00:03:06,151 So, whenever they see living people, 58 00:03:06,153 --> 00:03:07,786 they all jump on them. 59 00:03:07,788 --> 00:03:11,239 They want out of there. 60 00:03:11,241 --> 00:03:14,593 It's like a way station for the dead or something. 61 00:03:14,595 --> 00:03:18,630 Whatever it is, it's a problem. 62 00:03:26,072 --> 00:03:28,173 STEVE: Well, Laura, you sounded like 63 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:30,909 you were ready to pack up and leave when we spoke. 64 00:03:30,911 --> 00:03:32,077 So, what's going on? 65 00:03:32,079 --> 00:03:34,412 LAURA: Pretty much as soon as we moved in, 66 00:03:34,414 --> 00:03:37,015 we noticed small things started happening. 67 00:03:37,017 --> 00:03:40,585 And it's gotten to the point where it started to get 68 00:03:40,587 --> 00:03:42,120 a little bit more aggressive. 69 00:03:42,122 --> 00:03:45,090 And as a parent to a 2-year-old, 70 00:03:45,092 --> 00:03:46,391 I can't have that in my home. 71 00:03:46,393 --> 00:03:47,592 I can't have that going on. 72 00:03:47,594 --> 00:03:49,394 Why don't you just move? 73 00:03:49,396 --> 00:03:51,296 I don't want to be here. 74 00:03:51,298 --> 00:03:53,064 But my husband's grandfather built this home, 75 00:03:53,066 --> 00:03:55,333 so he will not leave. 76 00:03:55,335 --> 00:03:57,068 - He's refusing. - Refusing. 77 00:03:57,070 --> 00:03:58,703 I want to protect my daughter, 78 00:03:58,705 --> 00:04:02,440 but I love my husband as well, and I don't... You know? 79 00:04:02,442 --> 00:04:04,576 - I can't just leave. - Okay. 80 00:04:04,578 --> 00:04:06,828 So, what are some of the things that are happening? 81 00:04:06,830 --> 00:04:09,147 Electronics do crazy things. 82 00:04:09,149 --> 00:04:12,651 Things have moved on their own across the room. 83 00:04:12,653 --> 00:04:14,586 People physically touched. 84 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:17,756 People feel like they're being watched sometimes, 85 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:20,525 and there's things my 2-year-old has said 86 00:04:20,527 --> 00:04:22,327 that has been very shocking. 87 00:04:22,329 --> 00:04:26,498 She's been in her room and been talking to someone, 88 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:28,600 and my husband's gone in there and just, 89 00:04:28,602 --> 00:04:30,468 "Who are you talking to?" "The man." 90 00:04:30,470 --> 00:04:31,636 - Really? - Yeah. 91 00:04:31,638 --> 00:04:34,372 How'd you feel when she said that? 92 00:04:34,374 --> 00:04:35,674 I was petrified. 93 00:04:35,676 --> 00:04:37,642 For her to just come up with that out of nowhere 94 00:04:37,644 --> 00:04:40,946 was very strange to us. 95 00:04:40,948 --> 00:04:44,015 It seems to be drawn to her. 96 00:04:54,827 --> 00:04:56,895 AMY: What the hell? 97 00:04:58,598 --> 00:05:01,032 They're thinking that they're seeing, 98 00:05:01,034 --> 00:05:04,102 like, a shadow person. 99 00:05:04,104 --> 00:05:05,904 Who's "they"? 100 00:05:05,906 --> 00:05:08,707 The living people here. 101 00:05:08,709 --> 00:05:11,910 And there's a kid, definitely a kid. 102 00:05:15,214 --> 00:05:19,684 And it's very aware of the kid. 103 00:05:19,686 --> 00:05:20,952 And it's, like, 104 00:05:20,954 --> 00:05:23,455 the way it's moving is very... like this... 105 00:05:26,826 --> 00:05:29,828 To, like, grab the kid. 106 00:05:29,830 --> 00:05:34,933 And, uh, there's, like, stuff coming off of it. 107 00:05:34,935 --> 00:05:39,404 Like, it has all this stuff dripping off of its body. 108 00:05:39,406 --> 00:05:41,239 What do you mean? 109 00:05:41,241 --> 00:05:45,543 It almost looks like, like, um, tar, or... 110 00:05:45,545 --> 00:05:48,847 you know, some kind of liquid. 111 00:05:48,849 --> 00:05:51,066 What the [bleep] 112 00:05:51,068 --> 00:05:54,519 It's coming after this kid. 113 00:06:02,778 --> 00:06:06,131 This is where I kind of had my final breaking point, 114 00:06:06,133 --> 00:06:08,667 and why I wanted to call you guys in. 115 00:06:08,669 --> 00:06:09,768 Okay. 116 00:06:09,770 --> 00:06:12,037 I was actually sitting in the living room, 117 00:06:12,039 --> 00:06:13,838 and I heard a very... very odd noise. 118 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:16,057 And when I walked around the corner, 119 00:06:16,059 --> 00:06:17,309 I came through here, 120 00:06:17,311 --> 00:06:23,481 and this playroom door had opened. 121 00:06:23,483 --> 00:06:26,484 And it was shoving all of this out of the way 122 00:06:26,486 --> 00:06:29,154 so that this door was completely opened 123 00:06:29,156 --> 00:06:30,488 against this wall. 124 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:34,326 Okay. So, you hear... 125 00:06:34,328 --> 00:06:35,794 LAURA: Mm-hmm. 126 00:06:35,796 --> 00:06:38,263 I mean, I can't even really do it without pushing it. 127 00:06:38,265 --> 00:06:39,731 Yeah. 128 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:41,783 So, you got dogs? 129 00:06:41,785 --> 00:06:44,035 Yes. They were going bananas. 130 00:06:44,037 --> 00:06:46,004 But were they the ones that caused the door to open? 131 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:48,006 No, they were all sitting on my lap. 132 00:06:48,008 --> 00:06:49,441 We were just watching TV. 133 00:06:49,443 --> 00:06:52,577 And you're sure nobody broke into the house and then split? 134 00:06:52,579 --> 00:06:54,679 I got a gun out and did a whole walk-through of the house. 135 00:06:54,681 --> 00:06:57,115 Now, do you get anything else in this room? 136 00:06:57,117 --> 00:06:59,000 Sometimes people have felt watched 137 00:06:59,002 --> 00:07:00,385 in this area of the house. 138 00:07:00,387 --> 00:07:02,220 What areas are we talking about? 139 00:07:02,222 --> 00:07:04,456 Well, that bathroom. 140 00:07:04,458 --> 00:07:07,642 I won't go in. 141 00:07:07,644 --> 00:07:09,327 Geez. 142 00:07:09,329 --> 00:07:10,512 I just don't like it at all. 143 00:07:10,514 --> 00:07:12,530 - So, it's uncomfortable. - It's very uncomfortable. 144 00:07:12,532 --> 00:07:14,799 Creepy, yeah. 145 00:07:14,801 --> 00:07:16,668 All right. 146 00:07:19,071 --> 00:07:22,240 There's also a male here. 147 00:07:22,242 --> 00:07:26,010 He likes the bathroom. 148 00:07:28,047 --> 00:07:30,448 It makes him very happy. 149 00:07:30,450 --> 00:07:33,184 It doesn't make any of the living people happy, 150 00:07:33,186 --> 00:07:34,619 but he likes it in here. 151 00:07:34,621 --> 00:07:35,820 Why? 152 00:07:35,822 --> 00:07:42,177 I think most of them feel, like, a presence. 153 00:07:42,179 --> 00:07:44,829 Everything they do, they're being watched, 154 00:07:44,831 --> 00:07:46,798 and it makes them feel uncomfortable, 155 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,367 like somebody's... somebody's standing behind them. 156 00:07:51,103 --> 00:07:53,605 For some reason, the dead men I'm seeing 157 00:07:53,607 --> 00:07:56,341 are projecting themselves as shadow people... 158 00:07:58,411 --> 00:07:59,511 but they're not. 159 00:07:59,513 --> 00:08:01,479 They're just conscious entities. 160 00:08:01,481 --> 00:08:07,419 There's a female who definitely sees this guy. 161 00:08:07,421 --> 00:08:10,722 She has dark hair. It's fairly long. 162 00:08:10,724 --> 00:08:13,942 Like, say she's washing her hands, 163 00:08:13,944 --> 00:08:17,278 he'll, like, suddenly be behind her. 164 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,564 It just is constant, 165 00:08:19,566 --> 00:08:23,468 and she hates it. 166 00:08:29,341 --> 00:08:31,476 So, what's going on in here? 167 00:08:31,478 --> 00:08:34,479 There's one time where I was here by myself, 168 00:08:34,481 --> 00:08:35,814 sleeping right here. 169 00:08:35,816 --> 00:08:38,783 And I just kind of felt and heard, you know, 170 00:08:38,785 --> 00:08:41,986 someone kind of smoothing out the comforter 171 00:08:41,988 --> 00:08:44,155 and, you know, tugging on the edge. 172 00:08:44,157 --> 00:08:47,292 Really? Did you see the blanket being tugged? 173 00:08:47,294 --> 00:08:49,661 No, but I definitely have heard it, and I felt it. 174 00:08:49,663 --> 00:08:51,696 I probably would've been swinging at the air 175 00:08:51,698 --> 00:08:53,565 if I would've heard something like that. 176 00:08:53,567 --> 00:08:55,700 No, I think, um, at this point, 177 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:59,170 there was so many little things that had been going on, 178 00:08:59,172 --> 00:09:00,705 where we had just started 179 00:09:00,707 --> 00:09:02,974 to almost, in a sense, ignore it. 180 00:09:02,976 --> 00:09:05,443 - So, you got numb to everything that's been happening. - Mm-hmm. 181 00:09:05,445 --> 00:09:06,795 After we had our daughter, 182 00:09:06,797 --> 00:09:09,547 we kind of couldn't turn a blind eye to things anymore. 183 00:09:09,549 --> 00:09:12,016 Well, picking on an adult is one thing. 184 00:09:12,018 --> 00:09:13,067 Mm-hmm. 185 00:09:13,069 --> 00:09:14,969 Picking on a baby is another story. 186 00:09:14,971 --> 00:09:16,171 And even with all this, 187 00:09:16,173 --> 00:09:18,306 moving's not an option for your husband? 188 00:09:18,308 --> 00:09:20,475 He just feels, you know, 189 00:09:20,477 --> 00:09:23,795 "This is my home, and I'm staying." 190 00:09:30,002 --> 00:09:32,070 Ah [bleep] 191 00:09:32,072 --> 00:09:33,538 MATTHEW: What? 192 00:09:33,540 --> 00:09:37,141 This room is the way station for the dead, 193 00:09:37,143 --> 00:09:38,610 and all of the activity 194 00:09:38,612 --> 00:09:41,079 is tormenting a woman who lives here. 195 00:09:41,081 --> 00:09:42,714 If the dead are around, 196 00:09:42,716 --> 00:09:48,453 this woman gets horrible pain in her head. 197 00:09:48,455 --> 00:09:52,223 It's because of her ability. 198 00:09:52,225 --> 00:09:54,292 I think she can hear people 199 00:09:54,294 --> 00:09:57,996 talking to her, 200 00:09:57,998 --> 00:10:00,098 whispering to her. 201 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:03,935 They're coming out of the bed. 202 00:10:03,937 --> 00:10:06,371 Touching, touching, touching. 203 00:10:08,908 --> 00:10:11,976 It's, like, messing with her mind. 204 00:10:11,978 --> 00:10:12,844 You know, "Hey!" 205 00:10:12,846 --> 00:10:15,196 You know, "Hey, I'm here." 206 00:10:15,198 --> 00:10:19,484 If she's around this room all the [bleep] time, 207 00:10:19,486 --> 00:10:24,188 it could hurt her in the long run, you know? 208 00:10:24,190 --> 00:10:25,323 How? 209 00:10:25,325 --> 00:10:30,662 Feeling, like, defeated. Defeated. 210 00:10:30,664 --> 00:10:34,799 There's no hope. There's no hope. 211 00:10:56,933 --> 00:10:59,051 STEVE: So, Chris, I was talking to your wife, 212 00:10:59,053 --> 00:11:00,888 and she says there's no way you're leaving. 213 00:11:00,988 --> 00:11:02,104 Correct. 214 00:11:02,106 --> 00:11:04,840 I love my family, but this is our place. 215 00:11:04,842 --> 00:11:06,358 I will fight for it. 216 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,911 She told me that you may not be so serious 217 00:11:08,913 --> 00:11:10,095 about what's going on here. 218 00:11:10,097 --> 00:11:11,714 I mean, is she accurate about that? 219 00:11:11,716 --> 00:11:13,515 In a way, yes, and in a way, no. 220 00:11:13,517 --> 00:11:15,117 I do write things off. 221 00:11:15,119 --> 00:11:16,418 Okay, what are we talking about? 222 00:11:16,420 --> 00:11:18,921 Me and my wife were in our bedroom, 223 00:11:18,923 --> 00:11:21,757 asleep, and it was after 4:00 in the morning. 224 00:11:21,759 --> 00:11:22,825 TV just came on. 225 00:11:22,827 --> 00:11:25,394 I mean, it had to scare the hell out of you. 226 00:11:25,396 --> 00:11:26,395 Absolutely. 227 00:11:26,397 --> 00:11:27,663 Okay. 228 00:11:27,665 --> 00:11:29,398 - And there was nobody here? - No, no one here. 229 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,066 Anything else? 230 00:11:31,068 --> 00:11:33,335 I've been touched, physically. 231 00:11:33,337 --> 00:11:34,877 I stood up out of the recliner one night, 232 00:11:34,977 --> 00:11:37,494 and just plain as day, felt someone touch my shoulder 233 00:11:37,496 --> 00:11:39,579 and felt like they shook it a little bit. 234 00:11:39,581 --> 00:11:41,715 It wasn't a muscle spasm, 235 00:11:41,717 --> 00:11:43,717 it wasn't drinking or anything like that. 236 00:11:43,719 --> 00:11:44,718 It happened. 237 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,219 - You got a 2-year-old here. - Yes. 238 00:11:46,221 --> 00:11:47,220 A baby girl. 239 00:11:47,222 --> 00:11:49,022 Yes. 240 00:11:49,024 --> 00:11:51,124 And can you imagine her being touched like you were touched? 241 00:11:51,126 --> 00:11:52,759 No. 242 00:11:52,761 --> 00:11:53,977 I take it seriously, 243 00:11:53,979 --> 00:11:56,396 because I take my daughter's welfare seriously. 244 00:11:56,398 --> 00:11:59,199 If it wasn't for her, we wouldn't be talking. 245 00:11:59,201 --> 00:12:01,668 Okay. Uh, well, that being said, 246 00:12:01,670 --> 00:12:05,205 what do you know about any history on the property? 247 00:12:05,207 --> 00:12:07,507 My grandfather built this house in '74. 248 00:12:07,509 --> 00:12:10,077 His great-grandfather purchased this property. 249 00:12:10,079 --> 00:12:11,378 Wow. Okay. 250 00:12:11,380 --> 00:12:13,146 - So, your family's been here a long time. - A long time. 251 00:12:13,148 --> 00:12:16,883 And there was a very major Indian war fought here. 252 00:12:16,885 --> 00:12:20,754 These supposedly have been repurposed 253 00:12:20,756 --> 00:12:23,924 from Fort Barnwell from the Tuscarora Indian War. 254 00:12:23,926 --> 00:12:25,092 Wow. 255 00:12:25,094 --> 00:12:27,627 This is my family's legacy. 256 00:12:27,629 --> 00:12:30,831 I'm gonna fight for my house. I'm gonna fight for our legacy. 257 00:12:35,269 --> 00:12:38,238 There's this old person. 258 00:12:40,808 --> 00:12:42,476 It's a man. 259 00:12:42,478 --> 00:12:47,814 This person, I believe, is a former owner. 260 00:12:47,816 --> 00:12:51,651 He seems to know his way around here. 261 00:12:51,653 --> 00:12:57,591 He's still very sick from whatever he died from, 262 00:12:57,593 --> 00:13:00,277 which was a long-term illness. 263 00:13:00,279 --> 00:13:03,697 Like, he possibly has a little dementia. 264 00:13:08,336 --> 00:13:10,937 And... 265 00:13:10,939 --> 00:13:14,741 there's some kind of race thing going on here. 266 00:13:14,743 --> 00:13:20,080 He's desperate to stop it, 267 00:13:20,082 --> 00:13:26,119 but he's not okay to do that. 268 00:13:26,121 --> 00:13:34,428 He can't stop time enough to stop the things he did. 269 00:13:41,502 --> 00:13:44,104 So, Amy, I was talking to Laura about the stuff going on here. 270 00:13:44,106 --> 00:13:46,540 She says you guys have been friends since high school. 271 00:13:46,542 --> 00:13:49,643 Right. We've been friends for a really long time. 272 00:13:49,645 --> 00:13:51,545 So, I assume you spent time here in the house. 273 00:13:51,547 --> 00:13:52,512 Well, I used to. 274 00:13:52,514 --> 00:13:54,281 Last time we were here, 275 00:13:54,283 --> 00:13:55,549 terrifying things happened, 276 00:13:55,551 --> 00:13:57,317 and we haven't been back since then. 277 00:13:57,319 --> 00:13:58,718 Okay. Tell me the first thing. 278 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:00,454 I woke up in the middle of the night, 279 00:14:00,456 --> 00:14:02,355 and those curtains over there were moving. 280 00:14:02,357 --> 00:14:04,291 It was like someone was standing behind it. 281 00:14:04,293 --> 00:14:06,226 What about the windows? Were they open? 282 00:14:06,228 --> 00:14:07,260 No, they were closed. 283 00:14:07,262 --> 00:14:09,129 Did you have the fan or anything else on? 284 00:14:09,131 --> 00:14:10,947 No, there's nothing that could explain it. 285 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:12,199 So, what else has happened? 286 00:14:12,201 --> 00:14:15,135 Early that morning, my husband was going hunting, 287 00:14:15,137 --> 00:14:18,171 and I thought that he was sitting on the corner of the bed 288 00:14:18,173 --> 00:14:19,372 putting his boots on. 289 00:14:19,374 --> 00:14:22,542 And this edge dipped down, 290 00:14:22,544 --> 00:14:25,412 and I looked over and there was no one in here. 291 00:14:25,414 --> 00:14:28,248 Now, when you felt this thing on the bed, I mean, 292 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:29,883 how much pressure are we talking about? 293 00:14:29,885 --> 00:14:33,320 I mean, it was like a grown man was sitting on it. 294 00:14:33,322 --> 00:14:36,807 I don't know that I'll ever feel safe coming back 295 00:14:36,809 --> 00:14:38,625 - with a child. - Really? 296 00:14:38,627 --> 00:14:41,094 Do you think Chris is taking it too lightly? 297 00:14:41,096 --> 00:14:44,631 I do. I'm worried for the safety of his kid. 298 00:14:44,633 --> 00:14:46,099 So am I. That's why I'm here. 299 00:14:46,101 --> 00:14:47,951 I think he should take it more seriously, 300 00:14:47,953 --> 00:14:49,636 before other things start happening. 301 00:14:53,474 --> 00:14:59,513 Uh, there's been bad incidents in here. 302 00:14:59,515 --> 00:15:05,485 Something lives in the closet. 303 00:15:07,054 --> 00:15:11,157 I don't know what this is. I don't know why it's here. 304 00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:14,227 I just see something coming out of the closet, 305 00:15:14,229 --> 00:15:18,932 and, uh... 306 00:15:18,934 --> 00:15:21,668 laying on someone 307 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:26,439 so the person can't move or anything. 308 00:15:28,209 --> 00:15:31,278 Someone says, "Well, this is the room, 309 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,446 the room of death." 310 00:15:49,029 --> 00:15:51,030 STEVE: Chris told me he thought his house 311 00:15:51,032 --> 00:15:53,065 was built on the site of some Indian wars. 312 00:15:53,067 --> 00:15:54,467 I'm on my way to meet 313 00:15:54,469 --> 00:15:56,235 with a local author who says it's true, 314 00:15:56,237 --> 00:15:59,105 and those battles were some of the bloodiest 315 00:15:59,107 --> 00:16:00,773 in North Carolina history. 316 00:16:06,797 --> 00:16:08,681 So, Doc, what you said on the phone, 317 00:16:08,683 --> 00:16:09,849 my client was right. 318 00:16:09,851 --> 00:16:12,184 There were Native American wars on the property. 319 00:16:12,186 --> 00:16:13,452 All around it... 320 00:16:13,454 --> 00:16:16,489 very serious wars back in the early 1700s. 321 00:16:16,491 --> 00:16:18,207 Okay. So, what exactly happened? 322 00:16:18,209 --> 00:16:20,025 What started the whole damn thing? 323 00:16:20,027 --> 00:16:21,360 Settlers came in and took land. 324 00:16:21,362 --> 00:16:22,795 That meant less land for Indians. 325 00:16:22,797 --> 00:16:25,231 They're being abused by the settlers. 326 00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:29,034 Indian women would be raped, and men murdered. 327 00:16:29,036 --> 00:16:34,206 There's also a vibrant Indian slave trade by 1711. 328 00:16:34,208 --> 00:16:37,376 They'd just grown fed up with what was happening. 329 00:16:37,378 --> 00:16:39,845 And for a three-day rampage, 330 00:16:39,847 --> 00:16:42,231 they were attacking all these plantations, 331 00:16:42,233 --> 00:16:44,750 these farms, killing men, women and children, 332 00:16:44,752 --> 00:16:47,219 also killing black slaves, too. 333 00:16:47,221 --> 00:16:49,722 Okay. And this is all around the property I'm investigating? 334 00:16:49,724 --> 00:16:50,673 Yes. 335 00:16:50,675 --> 00:16:52,491 So, how many did they wind up killing? 336 00:16:52,493 --> 00:16:56,362 Well, about 140 people are killed in the three days. 337 00:16:56,364 --> 00:16:58,030 They are taken totally by surprise. 338 00:16:58,032 --> 00:17:00,182 In fact, one settler who survived said, 339 00:17:00,184 --> 00:17:01,567 "It's people that we knew. 340 00:17:01,569 --> 00:17:04,103 We see smiling faces, and then they attacked us." 341 00:17:04,105 --> 00:17:05,037 How brutal was it? 342 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:07,840 A lot of them are hatcheted, 343 00:17:07,842 --> 00:17:10,142 knifed, and often, their bodies 344 00:17:10,144 --> 00:17:14,180 were put in, like, positions of prayer in some cases. 345 00:17:14,182 --> 00:17:16,115 We also have stories of pregnant women 346 00:17:16,117 --> 00:17:17,650 having the babies ripped out. 347 00:17:17,652 --> 00:17:19,418 Some of them are impaled. 348 00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:21,554 I mean, this is pretty brutal right there. 349 00:17:23,623 --> 00:17:26,926 What the [bleep] 350 00:17:26,928 --> 00:17:29,829 There's, like, people all lined up against the wall. 351 00:17:29,831 --> 00:17:34,166 They're all fresh, like, fresh corpses. 352 00:17:34,168 --> 00:17:36,969 They're all white. Quite a few women. 353 00:17:36,971 --> 00:17:39,839 All I can get is, like, they're running. 354 00:17:39,841 --> 00:17:42,074 [Panting] 355 00:17:42,076 --> 00:17:44,560 I don't see what the [bleep] they're running from. 356 00:17:44,562 --> 00:17:46,545 I feel like it's unexpected. 357 00:17:46,547 --> 00:17:49,281 I think it was a normal day to start out with, 358 00:17:49,283 --> 00:17:52,718 and then this sudden panic, and then running, 359 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,421 running for your life. 360 00:17:55,423 --> 00:17:57,189 And then they're here like this. 361 00:17:57,191 --> 00:18:01,293 These are all people this happened to that day 362 00:18:01,295 --> 00:18:06,699 and probably didn't have a good burial. 363 00:18:09,836 --> 00:18:11,987 I'm curious about the white settlers. 364 00:18:11,989 --> 00:18:13,939 What happened with their bodies? 365 00:18:13,941 --> 00:18:16,141 They complained about, "We can't bury our dead 366 00:18:16,143 --> 00:18:17,977 "until the wolves are eating our dead 367 00:18:17,979 --> 00:18:19,879 and the vultures are eating our dead." 368 00:18:19,881 --> 00:18:23,782 People were too afraid to leave those fortified houses, 369 00:18:23,784 --> 00:18:26,085 and the Indians kind of go back to their villages 370 00:18:26,087 --> 00:18:27,887 to wait and see what's gonna happen. 371 00:18:27,889 --> 00:18:30,089 They're expecting a response. 372 00:18:30,091 --> 00:18:33,993 So, North Carolina calls on South Carolina for help. 373 00:18:33,995 --> 00:18:36,862 They send Colonel John Barnwell. 374 00:18:36,864 --> 00:18:38,898 He goes to this place called Core Town, 375 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:41,634 and he turns it into Fort Barnwell. 376 00:18:41,636 --> 00:18:44,203 My client believes the bricks from his fireplace 377 00:18:44,205 --> 00:18:45,504 came from Fort Barnwell. 378 00:18:45,506 --> 00:18:46,839 Well, it's possible. 379 00:18:46,841 --> 00:18:48,307 So, what happens next? 380 00:18:48,309 --> 00:18:51,644 John Barnwell, he's willing to sign a peace treaty. 381 00:18:51,646 --> 00:18:54,647 And so the Indians said, "Great, we'll sign one." 382 00:18:54,649 --> 00:18:58,017 Over 400 Indians show up, men, women, and children. 383 00:18:58,019 --> 00:19:00,536 They're expecting to sign a treaty. 384 00:19:00,538 --> 00:19:02,855 And then, at a surprise moment, 385 00:19:02,857 --> 00:19:04,990 Barnwell and these militia attack. 386 00:19:04,992 --> 00:19:09,094 About 50 Indians are just killed right off, 387 00:19:09,096 --> 00:19:11,397 and most women and children are then enslaved. 388 00:19:11,399 --> 00:19:13,532 This is dark and bloody ground here. 389 00:19:16,236 --> 00:19:17,469 I don't know why 390 00:19:17,471 --> 00:19:20,205 they're all stuck in the wall here like this. 391 00:19:20,207 --> 00:19:21,440 MATTHEW: How many? 392 00:19:25,245 --> 00:19:27,379 About 18. 393 00:19:27,381 --> 00:19:31,550 They can't move. They can't speak. 394 00:19:31,552 --> 00:19:35,254 It feels like something bad happened, whatever. 395 00:19:35,256 --> 00:19:36,355 They all die right... 396 00:19:36,357 --> 00:19:38,524 They're all together like this, 397 00:19:38,526 --> 00:19:41,260 and why they're kind of, like, bound... 398 00:19:41,262 --> 00:19:44,296 Like, this would be a binding on the dead... 399 00:19:44,298 --> 00:19:45,831 is very [bleep] weird. 400 00:19:45,833 --> 00:19:49,368 Someone put some sort of spell on these dead people. 401 00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:52,271 They can think and see, but they are all stuck together, 402 00:19:52,273 --> 00:19:53,839 unable to move or communicate. 403 00:19:53,841 --> 00:20:00,613 I want to say that they were put together even after death. 404 00:20:00,615 --> 00:20:05,351 This is, uh... 405 00:20:08,822 --> 00:20:10,322 terrible. 406 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,474 STEVE: With hundreds killed 407 00:20:27,476 --> 00:20:29,777 during Native American wars in the 1700s, 408 00:20:29,779 --> 00:20:31,111 my client's land has seen 409 00:20:31,113 --> 00:20:33,681 more than its fair share of death and violence. 410 00:20:33,683 --> 00:20:36,383 But something tells me the tragedy didn't end there. 411 00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:38,786 Digging through the archives, 412 00:20:38,788 --> 00:20:42,823 I find a local farmhand burned to death in the 1940s. 413 00:20:42,825 --> 00:20:44,391 Turns out he worked 414 00:20:44,393 --> 00:20:47,595 for my client's great-great-grandfather. 415 00:20:47,597 --> 00:20:49,663 Fires are always suspicious, 416 00:20:49,665 --> 00:20:51,799 and I want to know more about the worker that died 417 00:20:51,801 --> 00:20:53,133 on Chris and Laura's property. 418 00:20:53,135 --> 00:20:55,553 I'm heading over to meet with a history professor 419 00:20:55,555 --> 00:20:57,004 who's looking into it for me. 420 00:21:04,546 --> 00:21:06,380 I found out during my research 421 00:21:06,382 --> 00:21:08,515 that my client's great-great-grandfather 422 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:11,752 had a farmhand who burned to death right on the property. 423 00:21:11,754 --> 00:21:13,787 What do you know about this guy and what happened? 424 00:21:13,789 --> 00:21:16,290 William Loften was a farmhand 425 00:21:16,292 --> 00:21:20,828 who lived on Hugh Lane's Farm in the 1940s. 426 00:21:20,830 --> 00:21:23,797 He was a World War II veteran. 427 00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:24,765 Okay. 428 00:21:24,767 --> 00:21:27,134 And when he returned from the war, 429 00:21:27,136 --> 00:21:29,803 he went back to work on the farm. 430 00:21:29,805 --> 00:21:31,438 So, what happened? 431 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,374 March 14, 1949... 432 00:21:33,376 --> 00:21:37,011 Sometime in the night, he was asleep. 433 00:21:37,013 --> 00:21:38,512 The house caught on fire. 434 00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:41,332 His wife came home to see the house collapsing. 435 00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:42,416 Geez. 436 00:21:42,418 --> 00:21:43,684 I have a death certificate, 437 00:21:43,686 --> 00:21:47,788 and it says that he died from extreme burns. 438 00:21:47,790 --> 00:21:50,858 Okay. Do they know what might have caused the fire then? 439 00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:52,426 What the newspaper, the Sun Journal, says 440 00:21:52,428 --> 00:21:56,313 is that the fire was started by a stove that overheated. 441 00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:59,033 Now, Kate, according to the article I came across, 442 00:21:59,035 --> 00:22:00,517 it said five black farmhands 443 00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:02,736 were killed within a week from burning. 444 00:22:02,738 --> 00:22:04,772 It sounds suspicious to me, 445 00:22:04,774 --> 00:22:05,397 'cause when you read the article, 446 00:22:05,497 --> 00:22:08,064 right away I'm thinking there's racial undertones to it. 447 00:22:08,066 --> 00:22:11,610 Was the Klan active back in '49 in the Fort Barnwell area? 448 00:22:11,710 --> 00:22:14,811 Well, there were pockets of Klan activity, 449 00:22:14,813 --> 00:22:17,080 but there wasn't anything 450 00:22:17,082 --> 00:22:19,316 that indicates that it was suspicious. 451 00:22:19,318 --> 00:22:22,686 So, Kate, looking at this case, as far as the victim goes, 452 00:22:22,688 --> 00:22:26,290 it's a fire that can be easily made to look accidental 453 00:22:26,292 --> 00:22:28,392 and be a crime, or just accidental. 454 00:22:28,394 --> 00:22:30,661 I mean, I don't think we'll ever know. 455 00:22:30,663 --> 00:22:32,162 It's something to think about. 456 00:22:34,132 --> 00:22:38,902 AMY: Those corpses are still kind of in the wall. 457 00:22:38,904 --> 00:22:42,973 Yeah, they're bound. They're bound. 458 00:22:44,692 --> 00:22:47,945 I don't think that any of these people 459 00:22:47,947 --> 00:22:50,013 deserve to be like this. 460 00:22:50,015 --> 00:22:52,416 But that shadow, 461 00:22:52,418 --> 00:22:57,354 it thinks that they do deserve to be like this. 462 00:22:57,356 --> 00:23:00,324 But this is the same person that the kid was seeing? 463 00:23:00,326 --> 00:23:04,561 Yes. He's saying, "Oh, you know, 'cause they're white people, 464 00:23:04,563 --> 00:23:06,797 then that's why you're siding with them." 465 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,933 He's crawling. 466 00:23:09,935 --> 00:23:13,837 So, he can't stand up because it hurts too much. 467 00:23:15,673 --> 00:23:17,908 He says, "They broke my bones." 468 00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:19,843 Do you know when he's from? 469 00:23:19,845 --> 00:23:22,246 It feels more recent to me. 470 00:23:22,248 --> 00:23:24,848 It doesn't look like he died very well. 471 00:23:24,850 --> 00:23:28,785 It was at night, but also warm. 472 00:23:28,787 --> 00:23:31,922 This is uncomfortable. 473 00:23:31,924 --> 00:23:35,926 This is a mess. This is so messed up. 474 00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:40,697 STEVE: So, we've got brutal Indian wars 475 00:23:40,699 --> 00:23:43,934 and a worker who burned to death on my client's property. 476 00:23:43,936 --> 00:23:45,736 But one other thing caught my attention 477 00:23:45,738 --> 00:23:47,137 while I was doing my research... 478 00:23:47,139 --> 00:23:51,041 a murder-suicide that involved one of Chris' ancestors. 479 00:23:51,043 --> 00:23:53,810 I'm heading over to meet a historian 480 00:23:53,812 --> 00:23:56,813 who says it's a case of obsessive love. 481 00:24:02,754 --> 00:24:05,622 I came across this article during my research, 482 00:24:05,624 --> 00:24:09,593 and it looks like a distant cousin of my client 483 00:24:09,595 --> 00:24:11,061 was involved in a murder-suicide. 484 00:24:11,063 --> 00:24:12,279 This guy Lonnie Lane. 485 00:24:12,281 --> 00:24:14,631 Now, do you know anything about this guy? 486 00:24:14,633 --> 00:24:17,601 He was a young man. He was born in 1879. 487 00:24:17,603 --> 00:24:19,870 When he was 20 years old, 488 00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:22,673 he apparently began a relationship of some sort 489 00:24:22,675 --> 00:24:25,542 with a young girl named Glennie Sauls. 490 00:24:25,544 --> 00:24:28,011 This was in the spring of 1899. 491 00:24:28,013 --> 00:24:30,647 But she was only 14 years old. 492 00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:32,115 Her parents objected to the relationship 493 00:24:32,117 --> 00:24:33,216 because of the age difference, 494 00:24:33,218 --> 00:24:36,019 so they basically forbid him to see her. 495 00:24:36,021 --> 00:24:38,989 In March... March 24, 1899, 496 00:24:38,991 --> 00:24:40,407 he apparently went to her house 497 00:24:40,409 --> 00:24:41,992 while her parents were out of town. 498 00:24:41,994 --> 00:24:43,794 And they were seen leaving the house 499 00:24:43,796 --> 00:24:45,629 and going on a walk toward the woods. 500 00:24:45,631 --> 00:24:47,597 Okay. So, what happens next? 501 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:50,200 They're not seen for the rest of the afternoon. 502 00:24:50,202 --> 00:24:52,135 And when nightfall comes, people become concerned 503 00:24:52,137 --> 00:24:53,570 and they begin to search for them, 504 00:24:53,572 --> 00:24:54,938 and their bodies are found in the woods, 505 00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:56,306 both shot in the head. 506 00:24:56,308 --> 00:25:00,110 So, here's one of the articles that appeared, and it gives 507 00:25:00,112 --> 00:25:02,346 the details of their relationship 508 00:25:02,348 --> 00:25:04,648 and what may have happened that afternoon. 509 00:25:04,650 --> 00:25:06,083 There's been some speculation 510 00:25:06,085 --> 00:25:07,951 that he wanted to propose marriage to her 511 00:25:07,953 --> 00:25:10,287 and that she may have rejected him 512 00:25:10,289 --> 00:25:12,122 and then he just couldn't deal with that rejection. 513 00:25:12,124 --> 00:25:14,257 And the speculation was that 514 00:25:14,259 --> 00:25:16,727 he had shot her and then turned the gun on himself. 515 00:25:21,265 --> 00:25:24,801 AMY: This guy who's always in the bathroom, 516 00:25:24,803 --> 00:25:31,575 I think somehow he's related to the living here. 517 00:25:31,577 --> 00:25:37,748 He had said that he died outside. 518 00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:41,585 He has something that's, like, hanging off of him. 519 00:25:41,587 --> 00:25:44,187 Like, if it's moss. 520 00:25:44,189 --> 00:25:47,391 I don't think it was a good death. 521 00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:59,569 During my walk, I saw a group of dead people 522 00:25:59,571 --> 00:26:02,472 trying to get the attention of the living 523 00:26:02,474 --> 00:26:04,040 in the master bedroom. 524 00:26:04,042 --> 00:26:08,178 I'm meeting with an artist to describe this horrifying scene. 525 00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:11,515 There's two people sleeping in the bed. 526 00:26:11,517 --> 00:26:16,052 There's a bunch of dead people, like, holding their legs... 527 00:26:16,054 --> 00:26:18,488 Four on one side and like three on the other. 528 00:26:23,361 --> 00:26:25,462 Is this what you saw? 529 00:26:26,664 --> 00:26:28,445 Yes. That's what I saw. 530 00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:53,652 STEVE: Now that Amy and I have finished our investigations, 531 00:26:53,654 --> 00:26:56,928 it's time to reveal our findings to our clients and each other 532 00:26:57,028 --> 00:26:58,360 for the first time. 533 00:26:58,362 --> 00:27:01,071 Well, Amy, I'd like you to meet Chris and Laura. 534 00:27:01,171 --> 00:27:04,606 The activity here is pretty bad, up to the point where 535 00:27:04,608 --> 00:27:06,408 Laura's ready to pack up her bags and leave. 536 00:27:06,410 --> 00:27:10,712 Now, this property has been in Chris' family 537 00:27:10,714 --> 00:27:13,014 - for generations. - AMY: Okay. 538 00:27:13,016 --> 00:27:16,034 So, he does not want to leave, no matter what. 539 00:27:16,036 --> 00:27:17,318 But one thing they both agree on, 540 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,187 they're worried about their 2-year-old daughter, 541 00:27:19,189 --> 00:27:20,889 and that's why we're here. 542 00:27:20,891 --> 00:27:23,425 Now that Amy knows a little bit about what's going on here, 543 00:27:23,427 --> 00:27:27,095 I'm gonna have her tell us about her walk. 544 00:27:30,433 --> 00:27:33,701 There were a couple of individuals 545 00:27:33,703 --> 00:27:38,339 who initially showed themselves like shadow figures, 546 00:27:38,341 --> 00:27:40,158 but they're not. 547 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,195 One of them loves the bathroom because it's quiet. 548 00:27:44,197 --> 00:27:46,147 It's like his sanctuary. 549 00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:47,816 And there was a living woman 550 00:27:47,818 --> 00:27:52,253 that I saw that he keyed in on, and she had dark hair. 551 00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,055 And he's standing right behind her. 552 00:27:54,057 --> 00:27:56,708 And one of the things in the bathroom 553 00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:59,527 was this sense of always being watched. 554 00:27:59,529 --> 00:28:02,997 When we first moved in, I hated the bathroom 555 00:28:02,999 --> 00:28:04,165 I hated it. 556 00:28:04,167 --> 00:28:07,202 Like, the first two years we lived here, 557 00:28:07,204 --> 00:28:08,937 I wouldn't go in there. 558 00:28:08,939 --> 00:28:10,288 Interesting. 559 00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:13,875 And, uh, my daughter, she'll stay in that bathroom. 560 00:28:13,877 --> 00:28:16,344 She's mentioned talking to a man before. 561 00:28:16,346 --> 00:28:18,363 CHRIS: She has mentioned talking to a man before. 562 00:28:18,365 --> 00:28:19,214 Wow. 563 00:28:19,216 --> 00:28:20,348 Okay. 564 00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:22,717 STEVE: Now, do you know anything about this guy, 565 00:28:22,719 --> 00:28:24,536 who he was in life? 566 00:28:24,538 --> 00:28:28,122 Well, he was about 6 feet tall, thin. 567 00:28:28,124 --> 00:28:29,924 He indicated that he died outside. 568 00:28:29,926 --> 00:28:33,595 He had something kind of hanging off him, 569 00:28:33,597 --> 00:28:35,296 like a moss or a mold or something. 570 00:28:35,298 --> 00:28:38,933 I got that this was not a good death. 571 00:28:38,935 --> 00:28:41,603 I kind of think that he was murdered. 572 00:28:41,605 --> 00:28:44,105 It does bring to mind one story 573 00:28:44,107 --> 00:28:45,740 that took place right near here, 574 00:28:45,742 --> 00:28:49,043 and it involves a distant relative of yours. 575 00:28:49,045 --> 00:28:53,348 His name was Lonnie Lane. He was 20 years old. 576 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:55,250 He got involved with a 14-year-old girl, 577 00:28:55,252 --> 00:28:57,952 this girl Glennie Sauls. 578 00:28:57,954 --> 00:29:00,421 Now, her parents were not happy about them being together. 579 00:29:00,423 --> 00:29:02,490 They didn't like the idea of the age difference, 580 00:29:02,492 --> 00:29:07,896 but one day in March of 1899, the parents were away. 581 00:29:07,898 --> 00:29:09,247 Lonnie came to Glennie's house. 582 00:29:09,249 --> 00:29:11,499 They both left and walked into the woods, never came out. 583 00:29:11,501 --> 00:29:14,836 They were both found later, one shot to the head each. 584 00:29:14,838 --> 00:29:18,273 Here's the article from it. 585 00:29:18,275 --> 00:29:19,741 So, when she said the moss, 586 00:29:19,743 --> 00:29:21,320 the only thing I'm thinking was they were in the woods. 587 00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:23,386 They did die outside. 588 00:29:23,388 --> 00:29:25,021 CHRIS: I've heard of Lonnie Lane in our family. 589 00:29:25,023 --> 00:29:26,589 - Really? - Yes. 590 00:29:26,591 --> 00:29:27,724 I didn't know about this. 591 00:29:29,593 --> 00:29:32,946 That's one of the people that's presenting themselves 592 00:29:32,948 --> 00:29:36,686 - kind of like a shadow person, but it's not. - No. 593 00:29:36,786 --> 00:29:38,452 Okay. So, who's the second guy? 594 00:29:38,454 --> 00:29:42,940 I walked in, went into this area by that door in the hall, 595 00:29:42,942 --> 00:29:45,342 and he was, like, covered 596 00:29:45,344 --> 00:29:50,648 in, like, a black ooze, oil, tar substance. 597 00:29:50,650 --> 00:29:56,320 And he was actually interacting with a child. 598 00:29:56,322 --> 00:30:02,126 And the kid was freaked out. 599 00:30:02,128 --> 00:30:03,327 And it's, like, 600 00:30:03,329 --> 00:30:06,130 the way it's moving is very... like this... 601 00:30:09,234 --> 00:30:10,701 To, like, grab the kid. 602 00:30:10,703 --> 00:30:14,738 It's coming after this kid. 603 00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:20,911 I did get that he was black, and he hates white people. 604 00:30:20,913 --> 00:30:26,250 I also got that he died outside, and it was nighttime. 605 00:30:26,252 --> 00:30:29,887 And one word that I was hearing was "warm." 606 00:30:29,889 --> 00:30:31,822 "Warm" 607 00:30:31,824 --> 00:30:34,592 STEVE: All right, well, 608 00:30:34,594 --> 00:30:36,944 there was an incident where a guy got killed 609 00:30:36,946 --> 00:30:38,696 on this property back in 1949. 610 00:30:38,698 --> 00:30:40,898 He was a black guy. He was 35 years old. 611 00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:44,435 His name was William Loften. 612 00:30:44,437 --> 00:30:46,737 Now, Loften was a tenant farmer 613 00:30:46,739 --> 00:30:49,506 for your great-great-grandfather Hugh. 614 00:30:49,508 --> 00:30:52,042 Now, you had mentioned that he died at night. 615 00:30:52,044 --> 00:30:53,978 - You heard "warm?" - Yep. 616 00:30:53,980 --> 00:30:56,714 On March 14, 1949, 617 00:30:56,716 --> 00:30:58,682 his house caught fire, 618 00:30:58,684 --> 00:31:02,553 and he was burned to death inside the house. 619 00:31:02,555 --> 00:31:04,021 This is the guy's death certificate. 620 00:31:04,023 --> 00:31:06,590 Now, the official cause listed is burns. 621 00:31:06,592 --> 00:31:09,493 Police say it was a stove that caused the fire, 622 00:31:09,495 --> 00:31:13,631 but what I found odd, 623 00:31:13,633 --> 00:31:17,902 there was article that says "Fifth Negro Burns at Farm." 624 00:31:17,904 --> 00:31:23,361 The historian said there was Klan activity here at the time. 625 00:31:23,461 --> 00:31:24,647 There was. 626 00:31:24,747 --> 00:31:28,182 But a fire like that's easily done to make it look accidental. 627 00:31:28,184 --> 00:31:29,250 Mm-hmm. 628 00:31:33,155 --> 00:31:37,792 When I walked in the living room area, 629 00:31:37,794 --> 00:31:40,161 I look at the wall, 630 00:31:40,163 --> 00:31:44,632 and there was about 15 to 18 corpses standing upright. 631 00:31:44,634 --> 00:31:48,319 All of these people were together, 632 00:31:48,321 --> 00:31:52,640 and for some reason, somebody bound them. 633 00:31:52,642 --> 00:31:54,375 What does that mean? 634 00:31:54,377 --> 00:31:57,712 Someone at some point put a spell on them. 635 00:31:57,714 --> 00:32:01,883 So, they can see everything that's going on, 636 00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:05,319 but they can't speak and they can't move. 637 00:32:05,321 --> 00:32:10,141 Who would've been in the house that would've bound... 638 00:32:10,143 --> 00:32:12,260 Well, that's the thing. 639 00:32:12,262 --> 00:32:15,863 The other part of what I got was that 640 00:32:15,865 --> 00:32:18,749 most of these people were female. 641 00:32:18,751 --> 00:32:20,468 They were all white. 642 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:23,671 All of them seemed to have died at the same time. 643 00:32:23,673 --> 00:32:26,841 I saw it was, like, a nice day. 644 00:32:26,843 --> 00:32:28,910 All of a sudden, everybody's running. 645 00:32:28,912 --> 00:32:31,379 I know that they were running for their lives. 646 00:32:32,199 --> 00:32:33,699 _ 647 00:32:33,749 --> 00:32:37,118 Something was done with their bodies. 648 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,390 Like, I don't know if it was a mass grave, desecration. 649 00:32:42,392 --> 00:32:43,524 That sounds spot-on 650 00:32:43,526 --> 00:32:45,126 for something that happened here 300 years ago. 651 00:32:46,662 --> 00:32:51,332 In 1711, the Tuscarora Indians went, basically, nuts 652 00:32:51,334 --> 00:32:53,234 and started attacking everybody and killing 'em, 653 00:32:53,236 --> 00:32:55,336 'cause the white settlers that were here 654 00:32:55,338 --> 00:32:56,804 were stealing from them. 655 00:32:56,806 --> 00:32:58,973 They were raping their women. 656 00:32:58,975 --> 00:33:04,045 So, they decided to attack them in a three-day rampage. 657 00:33:04,047 --> 00:33:08,182 They killed 140 men, women, and children. 658 00:33:08,184 --> 00:33:09,784 They mutilated the bodies. 659 00:33:09,786 --> 00:33:12,119 They ripped babies from pregnant women's stomachs. 660 00:33:12,121 --> 00:33:13,454 Oh, my goodness. 661 00:33:13,456 --> 00:33:15,189 So, now, they were so scared 662 00:33:15,191 --> 00:33:18,292 they couldn't even go and get their bodies to bury 'em. 663 00:33:18,294 --> 00:33:20,861 So, after this attack happened, 664 00:33:20,863 --> 00:33:23,631 North Carolina decided to reach out to South Carolina 665 00:33:23,633 --> 00:33:25,299 for help. 666 00:33:25,301 --> 00:33:27,318 They sent a guy named Colonel John Barnwell. 667 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,638 So, what Barnwell wound up doing is setting up a fort, 668 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,940 Fort Barnwell, right near here. 669 00:33:32,942 --> 00:33:35,626 So, what he did was try to sign a peace treaty 670 00:33:35,628 --> 00:33:37,912 and said, "All right, come to the fort 671 00:33:37,914 --> 00:33:41,082 and we'll sign this treaty, and everything will be nice." 672 00:33:41,084 --> 00:33:42,683 So, 400 Native Americans came, 673 00:33:42,685 --> 00:33:44,885 thinking it was gonna be a celebration. 674 00:33:44,887 --> 00:33:47,455 So, they came with kids, women. 675 00:33:47,457 --> 00:33:48,656 Barnwell attacked. 676 00:33:48,658 --> 00:33:50,341 They weren't expecting it. 677 00:33:50,343 --> 00:33:52,159 50 of them died right away, 678 00:33:52,161 --> 00:33:54,428 and the rest, they basically took into slavery 679 00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:56,314 and sent them down to South Carolina 680 00:33:56,316 --> 00:33:58,833 to be put in the slave trade. 681 00:33:58,835 --> 00:34:02,269 Matter of fact, see this fireplace here? 682 00:34:02,271 --> 00:34:04,789 That was built from bricks 683 00:34:04,791 --> 00:34:07,708 that was from the fort that Barnwell built. 684 00:34:07,710 --> 00:34:09,910 Oh, gosh. 685 00:34:09,912 --> 00:34:11,912 My grandfather built this house. 686 00:34:11,914 --> 00:34:13,748 - Your grandfather built this house? - In '74. 687 00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:15,216 Wow. Okay. 688 00:34:15,218 --> 00:34:19,553 Well, I wasn't sure if he lived here or not, 689 00:34:19,555 --> 00:34:25,359 but I saw this elderly man in the living room. 690 00:34:25,361 --> 00:34:28,796 He was very attached to this location, 691 00:34:28,798 --> 00:34:32,433 and I got that he died from a long-term illness. 692 00:34:34,102 --> 00:34:37,405 The other thing was there were things 693 00:34:37,407 --> 00:34:41,325 that happened that he felt responsible for, 694 00:34:41,327 --> 00:34:44,812 that had possibly led to some deaths, 695 00:34:44,814 --> 00:34:47,748 and it involved racial issues. 696 00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:52,403 And he was like, "It's all my fault." 697 00:34:52,405 --> 00:34:55,439 So, I don't know if the illness affected him 698 00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:57,725 or if he also had, like, a little bit of dementia 699 00:34:57,727 --> 00:34:58,959 or something like that, 700 00:34:58,961 --> 00:35:02,313 because he's very lost, very confused. 701 00:35:02,315 --> 00:35:05,232 You're talking of my grandfather. 702 00:35:06,735 --> 00:35:09,937 He had Parkinson's, and he had a lot of dementia. 703 00:35:09,939 --> 00:35:12,239 Okay. 704 00:35:12,241 --> 00:35:14,442 [Sniffles] 705 00:35:14,444 --> 00:35:16,477 CHRIS: This was his dream home. 706 00:35:16,479 --> 00:35:17,445 Take that. 707 00:35:17,447 --> 00:35:19,647 This was his pride and joy. 708 00:35:19,649 --> 00:35:21,165 Sorry. 709 00:35:21,167 --> 00:35:25,519 But why would he blame himself for the racial tension, though? 710 00:35:27,606 --> 00:35:30,758 Yeah, I'd really rather not talk about it. 711 00:35:32,661 --> 00:35:35,296 [Sniffles] 712 00:35:35,298 --> 00:35:38,432 CHRIS: Some of these people that would be brought into this 713 00:35:38,434 --> 00:35:40,284 are still living, and I don't want to hurt feelings. 714 00:35:40,286 --> 00:35:42,703 No, no, no. It's totally understandable. 715 00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:45,272 But you are talking about my grandfather. 716 00:35:45,274 --> 00:35:48,576 This is crazy. 717 00:35:54,349 --> 00:35:55,800 Anything else? 718 00:35:55,802 --> 00:35:58,953 I went into the master bedroom, 719 00:35:58,955 --> 00:36:01,021 and I saw a living woman there... 720 00:36:01,023 --> 00:36:03,457 thin, dark hair. 721 00:36:03,459 --> 00:36:06,994 And she looked defeated. 722 00:36:06,996 --> 00:36:09,563 She was sitting on the side of the bed, 723 00:36:09,565 --> 00:36:11,432 like [bleep] 724 00:36:11,434 --> 00:36:15,803 I got that she's having a lot of pain, 725 00:36:15,805 --> 00:36:17,605 really bad headaches. 726 00:36:17,607 --> 00:36:20,541 In that area, a whole bunch of dead people came out. 727 00:36:20,543 --> 00:36:25,079 They can't really see anything, but they can see living people. 728 00:36:25,081 --> 00:36:28,048 And I saw two people in the bed 729 00:36:28,050 --> 00:36:32,786 and the dead people surrounding them and touching them. 730 00:36:32,788 --> 00:36:37,224 They were trying to, you know, get people's attention. 731 00:36:37,226 --> 00:36:40,127 You were telling me about it happening in the master bedroom. 732 00:36:40,129 --> 00:36:41,962 LAURA: Mm-hmm. I remember laying in bed, 733 00:36:41,964 --> 00:36:44,298 and it was just, like, fluttering 734 00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:45,933 over the end of the bed, 735 00:36:45,935 --> 00:36:49,503 like, maybe smoothing it out, pulling the corners down. 736 00:36:49,505 --> 00:36:50,938 Okay. 737 00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:52,239 But you've been grabbed. 738 00:36:52,241 --> 00:36:54,208 CHRIS: Definitely. 739 00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:57,178 It was just, like, you know? Like, "Hey, I'm here." 740 00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:58,746 Wow. 741 00:36:58,748 --> 00:37:04,185 Well, I did do a sketch of what I saw. 742 00:37:12,027 --> 00:37:14,261 That looks like you in the bed. 743 00:37:14,263 --> 00:37:15,996 [Bleep] 744 00:37:15,998 --> 00:37:17,398 [Sighs] 745 00:37:19,807 --> 00:37:21,225 LAURA: I don't like it. 746 00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:23,500 _ 747 00:37:24,179 --> 00:37:25,084 You okay? 748 00:37:44,164 --> 00:37:48,000 AMY: I did do a sketch of what I saw. 749 00:37:56,309 --> 00:37:58,177 STEVE: That looks like you in the bed. 750 00:37:58,179 --> 00:37:59,845 CHRIS: [Bleep] 751 00:38:03,049 --> 00:38:04,249 [Sighs] 752 00:38:04,251 --> 00:38:07,419 LAURA: I don't like it. 753 00:38:12,258 --> 00:38:13,325 You okay? 754 00:38:25,238 --> 00:38:30,629 I have countless times sat on that bed 755 00:38:30,729 --> 00:38:33,463 and cried on that bed 756 00:38:33,465 --> 00:38:35,515 and just been like. "[bleep]" 757 00:38:35,517 --> 00:38:38,234 Like, "Why did I move out here? [bleep] 758 00:38:38,236 --> 00:38:41,104 But what do they want? What do they want? 759 00:38:41,106 --> 00:38:43,273 They don't want to be here anymore, 760 00:38:43,275 --> 00:38:44,374 because they're stuck. 761 00:38:44,376 --> 00:38:49,312 And the female in particular has abilities. 762 00:38:50,314 --> 00:38:55,952 And so the dead are very attracted to that. 763 00:38:55,954 --> 00:38:58,588 And they want help, and they don't want to be here anymore. 764 00:38:58,590 --> 00:39:00,156 I mean, did you have any idea? 765 00:39:00,158 --> 00:39:01,174 I knew it was me. 766 00:39:01,176 --> 00:39:02,258 Deep... I knew... 767 00:39:02,260 --> 00:39:04,561 in the back of my head, it was me. 768 00:39:04,563 --> 00:39:05,729 I knew it. 769 00:39:05,731 --> 00:39:08,865 I didn't want to say it ever, out loud, 770 00:39:08,867 --> 00:39:10,166 but I knew it. 771 00:39:10,168 --> 00:39:13,169 So, now, what's got me concerned is the baby. 772 00:39:13,171 --> 00:39:15,238 The baby sees stuff and talks to stuff. 773 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,374 I'm 100% positive of that. 774 00:39:17,376 --> 00:39:19,009 I'm 100% positive of that, 775 00:39:19,011 --> 00:39:21,811 and that's the only reason why y'all are here. 776 00:39:21,813 --> 00:39:25,115 Well, when we spoke, you said you'd do anything, 777 00:39:25,117 --> 00:39:27,000 short of selling this house, 778 00:39:27,002 --> 00:39:29,219 - to protect your family. - Correct. 779 00:39:29,221 --> 00:39:31,438 Okay. So, now we're gonna find out what it's gonna take. 780 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,856 So, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy 781 00:39:32,858 --> 00:39:34,924 and see what she's got for us. 782 00:39:38,295 --> 00:39:43,533 So, there's a few steps, and it'll take a little while. 783 00:39:43,535 --> 00:39:45,295 What needs to be done first 784 00:39:45,395 --> 00:39:49,497 is a male who's black who's also a medium 785 00:39:49,499 --> 00:39:55,436 needs to come in and make contact 786 00:39:55,438 --> 00:40:00,107 with the male that's in the living room area. 787 00:40:00,109 --> 00:40:02,710 He needs to talk to him and listen to him 788 00:40:02,712 --> 00:40:06,047 and work with him to move him on. 789 00:40:06,049 --> 00:40:09,917 Then, the second day, he needs to come back 790 00:40:09,919 --> 00:40:13,487 and deal with the master-bedroom situation, 791 00:40:13,489 --> 00:40:14,855 which he needs to seal. 792 00:40:14,857 --> 00:40:16,857 When he's doing the sealing, 793 00:40:16,859 --> 00:40:18,693 the last thing I do want him to do 794 00:40:18,695 --> 00:40:21,295 is to use tar water at the end. 795 00:40:21,297 --> 00:40:22,747 This is something 796 00:40:22,749 --> 00:40:26,167 that completely negates the space for the dead. 797 00:40:26,169 --> 00:40:28,636 So, there will never be another dead person 798 00:40:28,638 --> 00:40:30,538 that comes in that room, ever. 799 00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:34,008 After that, 800 00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:38,846 a shaman needs to be contacted from the tribe. 801 00:40:38,848 --> 00:40:39,980 Tuscarora tribe. 802 00:40:39,982 --> 00:40:42,113 - Yeah. - Okay. 803 00:40:42,213 --> 00:40:45,247 So, they need to come and do a release 804 00:40:45,249 --> 00:40:48,016 for the people that are trapped in the wall 805 00:40:48,018 --> 00:40:51,353 'cause they are the only ones who can undo what they did. 806 00:40:51,355 --> 00:40:54,189 Once that's done, 807 00:40:54,191 --> 00:40:57,125 the elderly gentleman, your grandfather, 808 00:40:57,127 --> 00:41:01,330 will leave of his own accord 'cause he'll feel good. 809 00:41:01,332 --> 00:41:03,158 So, now, what about her abilities and the baby? 810 00:41:03,258 --> 00:41:04,925 Her bedroom is going to be 811 00:41:04,927 --> 00:41:10,664 completely sealed forever from any dead coming in. 812 00:41:10,666 --> 00:41:13,834 What happens if one day your daughter comes to you and says, 813 00:41:13,836 --> 00:41:16,069 you know, "All this stuff is happening." 814 00:41:16,071 --> 00:41:17,587 Would you want her to close up? 815 00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:19,272 Yeah. 816 00:41:19,274 --> 00:41:21,908 You guys won't know until she's a little bit older 817 00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:24,811 if she's going to be open 818 00:41:24,813 --> 00:41:28,181 or if she's going to close down or repress. 819 00:41:28,183 --> 00:41:31,251 So, it's kind of a waiting game right now 820 00:41:31,253 --> 00:41:33,753 to see which way she's gonna go. 821 00:41:33,755 --> 00:41:36,556 So, I want to ask you straight out, 822 00:41:36,558 --> 00:41:39,492 are you guys gonna take Amy's advice? 823 00:41:39,494 --> 00:41:40,527 Absolutely. 824 00:41:40,529 --> 00:41:41,361 Okay. 825 00:41:41,363 --> 00:41:42,379 100%. 826 00:41:42,381 --> 00:41:44,130 Okay, good. I'm glad to hear that. 827 00:41:44,132 --> 00:41:45,799 Yeah, I want this house to be ours... 828 00:41:45,801 --> 00:41:48,869 me, her, my daughter's. 829 00:41:48,871 --> 00:41:51,938 AMY: I'm concerned for Laura and Chris, 830 00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:56,076 as the dead within their home pose a very serious danger. 831 00:41:56,078 --> 00:41:58,111 But I believe if they follow my advice, 832 00:41:58,113 --> 00:42:00,981 they'll remain safe and live a peaceful life, 833 00:42:00,983 --> 00:42:04,451 keeping their home in the family for generations to come. 834 00:42:04,501 --> 00:42:09,051 Repair and Synchronization by Easy Subtitles Synchronizer 1.0.0.0 62555

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