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"This is the room, the room of death."
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I can't have that in my home.
I can't have that going on.
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It scared me to death.
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It's coming after this kid.
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I love my family. I will fight for it.
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This is dark and bloody ground here.
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It could hurt her.
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I'm worried for the safety of his kid.
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He says, "They broke my bones."
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This is a mess. This is so messed up.
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"You're mine. You can't escape."
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My name is Amy Allan.
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[Crying] What's happening?
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I see dead people.
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It seems like a devil.
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I speak to dead people.
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He's pissed off.
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And they speak to me.
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I felt real fear.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I think she's being murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Serial killer pops in my head.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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Nobody believes me.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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- Do you think there's still bodies there?
- I do.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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You got problems. I got news for you.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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This is our house...
whether they like it or not.
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Or time to get out.
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This is their house, the house of the dead.
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STEVE: I'm in Fort Barnwell, North Carolina.
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It's a very small town about
two hours outside of Raleigh.
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Amy and I were called in
by a woman named Laura.
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She says things are so bad in the house,
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she's ready to pack her bags,
grab her 2-year-old, and leave.
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The problem is, her husband
wants to stay and fight.
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She told me she's running out of options
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and we're her last hope.
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
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I look for any leading information.
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This house has a lot of
artwork and family photos
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that need to be covered or removed.
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When I'm done,
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the location will be
ready for tonight's walk.
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AMY: Oh, boy.
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There's a big problem in one of rooms here.
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There's a lot of dead people there.
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And they can't see each other,
but they can see the living.
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So, whenever they see living people,
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they all jump on them.
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They want out of there.
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It's like a way station
for the dead or something.
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Whatever it is, it's a problem.
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STEVE: Well, Laura, you sounded like
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you were ready to pack up
and leave when we spoke.
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So, what's going on?
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LAURA: Pretty much as soon as we moved in,
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we noticed small things started happening.
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And it's gotten to the point
where it started to get
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a little bit more aggressive.
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And as a parent to a 2-year-old,
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I can't have that in my home.
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I can't have that going on.
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Why don't you just move?
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I don't want to be here.
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But my husband's
grandfather built this home,
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so he will not leave.
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- He's refusing.
- Refusing.
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I want to protect my daughter,
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but I love my husband as well,
and I don't... You know?
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- I can't just leave.
- Okay.
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So, what are some of the
things that are happening?
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Electronics do crazy things.
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Things have moved on
their own across the room.
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People physically touched.
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People feel like they're
being watched sometimes,
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and there's things my 2-year-old has said
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that has been very shocking.
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She's been in her room and
been talking to someone,
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and my husband's gone in there and just,
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"Who are you talking to?" "The man."
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- Really?
- Yeah.
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How'd you feel when she said that?
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I was petrified.
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For her to just come up
with that out of nowhere
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was very strange to us.
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It seems to be drawn to her.
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AMY: What the hell?
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They're thinking that they're seeing,
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like, a shadow person.
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Who's "they"?
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The living people here.
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And there's a kid, definitely a kid.
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And it's very aware of the kid.
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And it's, like,
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the way it's moving is very... like this...
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To, like, grab the kid.
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And, uh, there's, like,
stuff coming off of it.
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Like, it has all this stuff
dripping off of its body.
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What do you mean?
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It almost looks like, like, um, tar, or...
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you know, some kind of liquid.
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What the [bleep]
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It's coming after this kid.
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This is where I kind of had
my final breaking point,
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and why I wanted to call you guys in.
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Okay.
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I was actually sitting in the living room,
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and I heard a very... very odd noise.
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And when I walked around the corner,
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I came through here,
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and this playroom door had opened.
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And it was shoving all
of this out of the way
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so that this door was completely opened
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against this wall.
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Okay. So, you hear...
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LAURA: Mm-hmm.
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I mean, I can't even really
do it without pushing it.
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Yeah.
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So, you got dogs?
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Yes. They were going bananas.
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But were they the ones that
caused the door to open?
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No, they were all sitting on my lap.
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We were just watching TV.
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And you're sure nobody broke
into the house and then split?
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I got a gun out and did a whole
walk-through of the house.
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Now, do you get anything else in this room?
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Sometimes people have felt watched
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in this area of the house.
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What areas are we talking about?
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Well, that bathroom.
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I won't go in.
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Geez.
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I just don't like it at all.
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- So, it's uncomfortable.
- It's very uncomfortable.
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Creepy, yeah.
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All right.
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There's also a male here.
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He likes the bathroom.
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It makes him very happy.
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It doesn't make any of
the living people happy,
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but he likes it in here.
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Why?
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I think most of them feel, like, a presence.
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Everything they do, they're being watched,
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and it makes them feel uncomfortable,
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like somebody's...
somebody's standing behind them.
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For some reason, the dead men I'm seeing
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are projecting themselves
as shadow people...
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but they're not.
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They're just conscious entities.
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There's a female who
definitely sees this guy.
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She has dark hair. It's fairly long.
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Like, say she's washing her hands,
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he'll, like, suddenly be behind her.
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It just is constant,
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and she hates it.
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So, what's going on in here?
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There's one time where I was here by myself,
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sleeping right here.
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And I just kind of felt and heard, you know,
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someone kind of smoothing out the comforter
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and, you know, tugging on the edge.
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Really?
Did you see the blanket being tugged?
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No, but I definitely have heard it,
and I felt it.
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I probably would've been swinging at the air
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if I would've heard something like that.
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No, I think, um, at this point,
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there was so many little
things that had been going on,
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where we had just started
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to almost, in a sense, ignore it.
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- So, you got numb to everything
that's been happening. - Mm-hmm.
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After we had our daughter,
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we kind of couldn't turn a
blind eye to things anymore.
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Well, picking on an adult is one thing.
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Mm-hmm.
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Picking on a baby is another story.
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And even with all this,
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moving's not an option for your husband?
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He just feels, you know,
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"This is my home, and I'm staying."
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Ah [bleep]
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MATTHEW: What?
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This room is the way station for the dead,
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and all of the activity
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is tormenting a woman who lives here.
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If the dead are around,
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this woman gets horrible pain in her head.
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It's because of her ability.
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I think she can hear people
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talking to her,
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whispering to her.
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They're coming out of the bed.
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Touching, touching, touching.
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It's, like, messing with her mind.
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You know, "Hey!"
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You know, "Hey, I'm here."
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If she's around this room
all the [bleep] time,
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it could hurt her in the long run, you know?
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How?
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Feeling, like, defeated. Defeated.
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There's no hope. There's no hope.
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STEVE: So, Chris,
I was talking to your wife,
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and she says there's no way you're leaving.
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Correct.
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I love my family, but this is our place.
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I will fight for it.
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She told me that you may not be so serious
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about what's going on here.
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I mean, is she accurate about that?
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In a way, yes, and in a way, no.
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I do write things off.
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Okay, what are we talking about?
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Me and my wife were in our bedroom,
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asleep, and it was after
4:00 in the morning.
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TV just came on.
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I mean, it had to scare the hell out of you.
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Absolutely.
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Okay.
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- And there was nobody here?
- No, no one here.
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Anything else?
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I've been touched, physically.
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I stood up out of the recliner one night,
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and just plain as day,
felt someone touch my shoulder
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and felt like they shook it a little bit.
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It wasn't a muscle spasm,
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it wasn't drinking or anything like that.
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It happened.
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- You got a 2-year-old here.
- Yes.
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A baby girl.
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Yes.
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And can you imagine her being
touched like you were touched?
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No.
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I take it seriously,
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because I take my daughter's
welfare seriously.
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If it wasn't for her,
we wouldn't be talking.
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Okay. Uh, well, that being said,
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what do you know about any
history on the property?
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My grandfather built this house in '74.
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His great-grandfather
purchased this property.
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Wow. Okay.
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- So, your family's been here a long time.
- A long time.
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And there was a very major
Indian war fought here.
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These supposedly have been repurposed
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from Fort Barnwell from
the Tuscarora Indian War.
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Wow.
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This is my family's legacy.
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I'm gonna fight for my house.
I'm gonna fight for our legacy.
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There's this old person.
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It's a man.
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This person, I believe, is a former owner.
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He seems to know his way around here.
261
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He's still very sick from
whatever he died from,
262
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which was a long-term illness.
263
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Like, he possibly has a little dementia.
264
00:13:08,336 --> 00:13:10,937
And...
265
00:13:10,939 --> 00:13:14,741
there's some kind of
race thing going on here.
266
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He's desperate to stop it,
267
00:13:20,082 --> 00:13:26,119
but he's not okay to do that.
268
00:13:26,121 --> 00:13:34,428
He can't stop time enough
to stop the things he did.
269
00:13:41,502 --> 00:13:44,104
So, Amy, I was talking to Laura
about the stuff going on here.
270
00:13:44,106 --> 00:13:46,540
She says you guys have been
friends since high school.
271
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Right. We've been friends
for a really long time.
272
00:13:49,645 --> 00:13:51,545
So, I assume you spent
time here in the house.
273
00:13:51,547 --> 00:13:52,512
Well, I used to.
274
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Last time we were here,
275
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terrifying things happened,
276
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and we haven't been back since then.
277
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Okay. Tell me the first thing.
278
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I woke up in the middle of the night,
279
00:14:00,456 --> 00:14:02,355
and those curtains over there were moving.
280
00:14:02,357 --> 00:14:04,291
It was like someone was standing behind it.
281
00:14:04,293 --> 00:14:06,226
What about the windows? Were they open?
282
00:14:06,228 --> 00:14:07,260
No, they were closed.
283
00:14:07,262 --> 00:14:09,129
Did you have the fan or anything else on?
284
00:14:09,131 --> 00:14:10,947
No, there's nothing that could explain it.
285
00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:12,199
So, what else has happened?
286
00:14:12,201 --> 00:14:15,135
Early that morning,
my husband was going hunting,
287
00:14:15,137 --> 00:14:18,171
and I thought that he was
sitting on the corner of the bed
288
00:14:18,173 --> 00:14:19,372
putting his boots on.
289
00:14:19,374 --> 00:14:22,542
And this edge dipped down,
290
00:14:22,544 --> 00:14:25,412
and I looked over and
there was no one in here.
291
00:14:25,414 --> 00:14:28,248
Now, when you felt this thing on the bed,
I mean,
292
00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:29,883
how much pressure are we talking about?
293
00:14:29,885 --> 00:14:33,320
I mean, it was like a grown
man was sitting on it.
294
00:14:33,322 --> 00:14:36,807
I don't know that I'll
ever feel safe coming back
295
00:14:36,809 --> 00:14:38,625
- with a child.
- Really?
296
00:14:38,627 --> 00:14:41,094
Do you think Chris is taking it too lightly?
297
00:14:41,096 --> 00:14:44,631
I do. I'm worried for the safety of his kid.
298
00:14:44,633 --> 00:14:46,099
So am I. That's why I'm here.
299
00:14:46,101 --> 00:14:47,951
I think he should take it more seriously,
300
00:14:47,953 --> 00:14:49,636
before other things start happening.
301
00:14:53,474 --> 00:14:59,513
Uh, there's been bad incidents in here.
302
00:14:59,515 --> 00:15:05,485
Something lives in the closet.
303
00:15:07,054 --> 00:15:11,157
I don't know what this is.
I don't know why it's here.
304
00:15:11,159 --> 00:15:14,227
I just see something
coming out of the closet,
305
00:15:14,229 --> 00:15:18,932
and, uh...
306
00:15:18,934 --> 00:15:21,668
laying on someone
307
00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:26,439
so the person can't move or anything.
308
00:15:28,209 --> 00:15:31,278
Someone says, "Well, this is the room,
309
00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:33,446
the room of death."
310
00:15:49,029 --> 00:15:51,030
STEVE: Chris told me he thought his house
311
00:15:51,032 --> 00:15:53,065
was built on the site of some Indian wars.
312
00:15:53,067 --> 00:15:54,467
I'm on my way to meet
313
00:15:54,469 --> 00:15:56,235
with a local author who says it's true,
314
00:15:56,237 --> 00:15:59,105
and those battles were some of the bloodiest
315
00:15:59,107 --> 00:16:00,773
in North Carolina history.
316
00:16:06,797 --> 00:16:08,681
So, Doc, what you said on the phone,
317
00:16:08,683 --> 00:16:09,849
my client was right.
318
00:16:09,851 --> 00:16:12,184
There were Native American
wars on the property.
319
00:16:12,186 --> 00:16:13,452
All around it...
320
00:16:13,454 --> 00:16:16,489
very serious wars back in the early 1700s.
321
00:16:16,491 --> 00:16:18,207
Okay. So, what exactly happened?
322
00:16:18,209 --> 00:16:20,025
What started the whole damn thing?
323
00:16:20,027 --> 00:16:21,360
Settlers came in and took land.
324
00:16:21,362 --> 00:16:22,795
That meant less land for Indians.
325
00:16:22,797 --> 00:16:25,231
They're being abused by the settlers.
326
00:16:25,233 --> 00:16:29,034
Indian women would be raped,
and men murdered.
327
00:16:29,036 --> 00:16:34,206
There's also a vibrant
Indian slave trade by 1711.
328
00:16:34,208 --> 00:16:37,376
They'd just grown fed up
with what was happening.
329
00:16:37,378 --> 00:16:39,845
And for a three-day rampage,
330
00:16:39,847 --> 00:16:42,231
they were attacking all these plantations,
331
00:16:42,233 --> 00:16:44,750
these farms, killing men,
women and children,
332
00:16:44,752 --> 00:16:47,219
also killing black slaves, too.
333
00:16:47,221 --> 00:16:49,722
Okay. And this is all around
the property I'm investigating?
334
00:16:49,724 --> 00:16:50,673
Yes.
335
00:16:50,675 --> 00:16:52,491
So, how many did they wind up killing?
336
00:16:52,493 --> 00:16:56,362
Well, about 140 people are
killed in the three days.
337
00:16:56,364 --> 00:16:58,030
They are taken totally by surprise.
338
00:16:58,032 --> 00:17:00,182
In fact, one settler who survived said,
339
00:17:00,184 --> 00:17:01,567
"It's people that we knew.
340
00:17:01,569 --> 00:17:04,103
We see smiling faces,
and then they attacked us."
341
00:17:04,105 --> 00:17:05,037
How brutal was it?
342
00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:07,840
A lot of them are hatcheted,
343
00:17:07,842 --> 00:17:10,142
knifed, and often, their bodies
344
00:17:10,144 --> 00:17:14,180
were put in, like,
positions of prayer in some cases.
345
00:17:14,182 --> 00:17:16,115
We also have stories of pregnant women
346
00:17:16,117 --> 00:17:17,650
having the babies ripped out.
347
00:17:17,652 --> 00:17:19,418
Some of them are impaled.
348
00:17:19,420 --> 00:17:21,554
I mean, this is pretty brutal right there.
349
00:17:23,623 --> 00:17:26,926
What the [bleep]
350
00:17:26,928 --> 00:17:29,829
There's, like,
people all lined up against the wall.
351
00:17:29,831 --> 00:17:34,166
They're all fresh, like, fresh corpses.
352
00:17:34,168 --> 00:17:36,969
They're all white. Quite a few women.
353
00:17:36,971 --> 00:17:39,839
All I can get is, like, they're running.
354
00:17:39,841 --> 00:17:42,074
[Panting]
355
00:17:42,076 --> 00:17:44,560
I don't see what the [bleep]
they're running from.
356
00:17:44,562 --> 00:17:46,545
I feel like it's unexpected.
357
00:17:46,547 --> 00:17:49,281
I think it was a normal
day to start out with,
358
00:17:49,283 --> 00:17:52,718
and then this sudden panic,
and then running,
359
00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,421
running for your life.
360
00:17:55,423 --> 00:17:57,189
And then they're here like this.
361
00:17:57,191 --> 00:18:01,293
These are all people
this happened to that day
362
00:18:01,295 --> 00:18:06,699
and probably didn't have a good burial.
363
00:18:09,836 --> 00:18:11,987
I'm curious about the white settlers.
364
00:18:11,989 --> 00:18:13,939
What happened with their bodies?
365
00:18:13,941 --> 00:18:16,141
They complained about,
"We can't bury our dead
366
00:18:16,143 --> 00:18:17,977
"until the wolves are eating our dead
367
00:18:17,979 --> 00:18:19,879
and the vultures are eating our dead."
368
00:18:19,881 --> 00:18:23,782
People were too afraid to
leave those fortified houses,
369
00:18:23,784 --> 00:18:26,085
and the Indians kind of
go back to their villages
370
00:18:26,087 --> 00:18:27,887
to wait and see what's gonna happen.
371
00:18:27,889 --> 00:18:30,089
They're expecting a response.
372
00:18:30,091 --> 00:18:33,993
So, North Carolina calls
on South Carolina for help.
373
00:18:33,995 --> 00:18:36,862
They send Colonel John Barnwell.
374
00:18:36,864 --> 00:18:38,898
He goes to this place called Core Town,
375
00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:41,634
and he turns it into Fort Barnwell.
376
00:18:41,636 --> 00:18:44,203
My client believes the
bricks from his fireplace
377
00:18:44,205 --> 00:18:45,504
came from Fort Barnwell.
378
00:18:45,506 --> 00:18:46,839
Well, it's possible.
379
00:18:46,841 --> 00:18:48,307
So, what happens next?
380
00:18:48,309 --> 00:18:51,644
John Barnwell,
he's willing to sign a peace treaty.
381
00:18:51,646 --> 00:18:54,647
And so the Indians said,
"Great, we'll sign one."
382
00:18:54,649 --> 00:18:58,017
Over 400 Indians show up,
men, women, and children.
383
00:18:58,019 --> 00:19:00,536
They're expecting to sign a treaty.
384
00:19:00,538 --> 00:19:02,855
And then, at a surprise moment,
385
00:19:02,857 --> 00:19:04,990
Barnwell and these militia attack.
386
00:19:04,992 --> 00:19:09,094
About 50 Indians are just killed right off,
387
00:19:09,096 --> 00:19:11,397
and most women and
children are then enslaved.
388
00:19:11,399 --> 00:19:13,532
This is dark and bloody ground here.
389
00:19:16,236 --> 00:19:17,469
I don't know why
390
00:19:17,471 --> 00:19:20,205
they're all stuck in
the wall here like this.
391
00:19:20,207 --> 00:19:21,440
MATTHEW: How many?
392
00:19:25,245 --> 00:19:27,379
About 18.
393
00:19:27,381 --> 00:19:31,550
They can't move. They can't speak.
394
00:19:31,552 --> 00:19:35,254
It feels like something bad happened,
whatever.
395
00:19:35,256 --> 00:19:36,355
They all die right...
396
00:19:36,357 --> 00:19:38,524
They're all together like this,
397
00:19:38,526 --> 00:19:41,260
and why they're kind of, like, bound...
398
00:19:41,262 --> 00:19:44,296
Like, this would be a binding on the dead...
399
00:19:44,298 --> 00:19:45,831
is very [bleep] weird.
400
00:19:45,833 --> 00:19:49,368
Someone put some sort of
spell on these dead people.
401
00:19:49,370 --> 00:19:52,271
They can think and see,
but they are all stuck together,
402
00:19:52,273 --> 00:19:53,839
unable to move or communicate.
403
00:19:53,841 --> 00:20:00,613
I want to say that they were
put together even after death.
404
00:20:00,615 --> 00:20:05,351
This is, uh...
405
00:20:08,822 --> 00:20:10,322
terrible.
406
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,474
STEVE: With hundreds killed
407
00:20:27,476 --> 00:20:29,777
during Native American wars in the 1700s,
408
00:20:29,779 --> 00:20:31,111
my client's land has seen
409
00:20:31,113 --> 00:20:33,681
more than its fair share
of death and violence.
410
00:20:33,683 --> 00:20:36,383
But something tells me the
tragedy didn't end there.
411
00:20:37,319 --> 00:20:38,786
Digging through the archives,
412
00:20:38,788 --> 00:20:42,823
I find a local farmhand
burned to death in the 1940s.
413
00:20:42,825 --> 00:20:44,391
Turns out he worked
414
00:20:44,393 --> 00:20:47,595
for my client's great-great-grandfather.
415
00:20:47,597 --> 00:20:49,663
Fires are always suspicious,
416
00:20:49,665 --> 00:20:51,799
and I want to know more
about the worker that died
417
00:20:51,801 --> 00:20:53,133
on Chris and Laura's property.
418
00:20:53,135 --> 00:20:55,553
I'm heading over to meet
with a history professor
419
00:20:55,555 --> 00:20:57,004
who's looking into it for me.
420
00:21:04,546 --> 00:21:06,380
I found out during my research
421
00:21:06,382 --> 00:21:08,515
that my client's great-great-grandfather
422
00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:11,752
had a farmhand who burned to
death right on the property.
423
00:21:11,754 --> 00:21:13,787
What do you know about
this guy and what happened?
424
00:21:13,789 --> 00:21:16,290
William Loften was a farmhand
425
00:21:16,292 --> 00:21:20,828
who lived on Hugh Lane's Farm in the 1940s.
426
00:21:20,830 --> 00:21:23,797
He was a World War II veteran.
427
00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:24,765
Okay.
428
00:21:24,767 --> 00:21:27,134
And when he returned from the war,
429
00:21:27,136 --> 00:21:29,803
he went back to work on the farm.
430
00:21:29,805 --> 00:21:31,438
So, what happened?
431
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,374
March 14, 1949...
432
00:21:33,376 --> 00:21:37,011
Sometime in the night, he was asleep.
433
00:21:37,013 --> 00:21:38,512
The house caught on fire.
434
00:21:38,514 --> 00:21:41,332
His wife came home to
see the house collapsing.
435
00:21:41,334 --> 00:21:42,416
Geez.
436
00:21:42,418 --> 00:21:43,684
I have a death certificate,
437
00:21:43,686 --> 00:21:47,788
and it says that he died from extreme burns.
438
00:21:47,790 --> 00:21:50,858
Okay. Do they know what might
have caused the fire then?
439
00:21:50,860 --> 00:21:52,426
What the newspaper, the Sun Journal, says
440
00:21:52,428 --> 00:21:56,313
is that the fire was started
by a stove that overheated.
441
00:21:56,315 --> 00:21:59,033
Now, Kate, according to the
article I came across,
442
00:21:59,035 --> 00:22:00,517
it said five black farmhands
443
00:22:00,519 --> 00:22:02,736
were killed within a week from burning.
444
00:22:02,738 --> 00:22:04,772
It sounds suspicious to me,
445
00:22:04,774 --> 00:22:05,397
'cause when you read the article,
446
00:22:05,497 --> 00:22:08,064
right away I'm thinking there's
racial undertones to it.
447
00:22:08,066 --> 00:22:11,610
Was the Klan active back in
'49 in the Fort Barnwell area?
448
00:22:11,710 --> 00:22:14,811
Well, there were pockets of Klan activity,
449
00:22:14,813 --> 00:22:17,080
but there wasn't anything
450
00:22:17,082 --> 00:22:19,316
that indicates that it was suspicious.
451
00:22:19,318 --> 00:22:22,686
So, Kate, looking at this case,
as far as the victim goes,
452
00:22:22,688 --> 00:22:26,290
it's a fire that can be
easily made to look accidental
453
00:22:26,292 --> 00:22:28,392
and be a crime, or just accidental.
454
00:22:28,394 --> 00:22:30,661
I mean, I don't think we'll ever know.
455
00:22:30,663 --> 00:22:32,162
It's something to think about.
456
00:22:34,132 --> 00:22:38,902
AMY: Those corpses are
still kind of in the wall.
457
00:22:38,904 --> 00:22:42,973
Yeah, they're bound. They're bound.
458
00:22:44,692 --> 00:22:47,945
I don't think that any of these people
459
00:22:47,947 --> 00:22:50,013
deserve to be like this.
460
00:22:50,015 --> 00:22:52,416
But that shadow,
461
00:22:52,418 --> 00:22:57,354
it thinks that they do
deserve to be like this.
462
00:22:57,356 --> 00:23:00,324
But this is the same person
that the kid was seeing?
463
00:23:00,326 --> 00:23:04,561
Yes. He's saying, "Oh, you know,
'cause they're white people,
464
00:23:04,563 --> 00:23:06,797
then that's why you're siding with them."
465
00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:09,933
He's crawling.
466
00:23:09,935 --> 00:23:13,837
So, he can't stand up
because it hurts too much.
467
00:23:15,673 --> 00:23:17,908
He says, "They broke my bones."
468
00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:19,843
Do you know when he's from?
469
00:23:19,845 --> 00:23:22,246
It feels more recent to me.
470
00:23:22,248 --> 00:23:24,848
It doesn't look like he died very well.
471
00:23:24,850 --> 00:23:28,785
It was at night, but also warm.
472
00:23:28,787 --> 00:23:31,922
This is uncomfortable.
473
00:23:31,924 --> 00:23:35,926
This is a mess. This is so messed up.
474
00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:40,697
STEVE: So, we've got brutal Indian wars
475
00:23:40,699 --> 00:23:43,934
and a worker who burned to
death on my client's property.
476
00:23:43,936 --> 00:23:45,736
But one other thing caught my attention
477
00:23:45,738 --> 00:23:47,137
while I was doing my research...
478
00:23:47,139 --> 00:23:51,041
a murder-suicide that involved one of Chris'
ancestors.
479
00:23:51,043 --> 00:23:53,810
I'm heading over to meet a historian
480
00:23:53,812 --> 00:23:56,813
who says it's a case of obsessive love.
481
00:24:02,754 --> 00:24:05,622
I came across this article
during my research,
482
00:24:05,624 --> 00:24:09,593
and it looks like a
distant cousin of my client
483
00:24:09,595 --> 00:24:11,061
was involved in a murder-suicide.
484
00:24:11,063 --> 00:24:12,279
This guy Lonnie Lane.
485
00:24:12,281 --> 00:24:14,631
Now, do you know anything about this guy?
486
00:24:14,633 --> 00:24:17,601
He was a young man. He was born in 1879.
487
00:24:17,603 --> 00:24:19,870
When he was 20 years old,
488
00:24:19,872 --> 00:24:22,673
he apparently began a
relationship of some sort
489
00:24:22,675 --> 00:24:25,542
with a young girl named Glennie Sauls.
490
00:24:25,544 --> 00:24:28,011
This was in the spring of 1899.
491
00:24:28,013 --> 00:24:30,647
But she was only 14 years old.
492
00:24:30,649 --> 00:24:32,115
Her parents objected to the relationship
493
00:24:32,117 --> 00:24:33,216
because of the age difference,
494
00:24:33,218 --> 00:24:36,019
so they basically forbid him to see her.
495
00:24:36,021 --> 00:24:38,989
In March... March 24, 1899,
496
00:24:38,991 --> 00:24:40,407
he apparently went to her house
497
00:24:40,409 --> 00:24:41,992
while her parents were out of town.
498
00:24:41,994 --> 00:24:43,794
And they were seen leaving the house
499
00:24:43,796 --> 00:24:45,629
and going on a walk toward the woods.
500
00:24:45,631 --> 00:24:47,597
Okay. So, what happens next?
501
00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:50,200
They're not seen for the
rest of the afternoon.
502
00:24:50,202 --> 00:24:52,135
And when nightfall comes,
people become concerned
503
00:24:52,137 --> 00:24:53,570
and they begin to search for them,
504
00:24:53,572 --> 00:24:54,938
and their bodies are found in the woods,
505
00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:56,306
both shot in the head.
506
00:24:56,308 --> 00:25:00,110
So, here's one of the articles that appeared,
and it gives
507
00:25:00,112 --> 00:25:02,346
the details of their relationship
508
00:25:02,348 --> 00:25:04,648
and what may have happened that afternoon.
509
00:25:04,650 --> 00:25:06,083
There's been some speculation
510
00:25:06,085 --> 00:25:07,951
that he wanted to propose marriage to her
511
00:25:07,953 --> 00:25:10,287
and that she may have rejected him
512
00:25:10,289 --> 00:25:12,122
and then he just couldn't
deal with that rejection.
513
00:25:12,124 --> 00:25:14,257
And the speculation was that
514
00:25:14,259 --> 00:25:16,727
he had shot her and then
turned the gun on himself.
515
00:25:21,265 --> 00:25:24,801
AMY: This guy who's always in the bathroom,
516
00:25:24,803 --> 00:25:31,575
I think somehow he's
related to the living here.
517
00:25:31,577 --> 00:25:37,748
He had said that he died outside.
518
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:41,585
He has something that's,
like, hanging off of him.
519
00:25:41,587 --> 00:25:44,187
Like, if it's moss.
520
00:25:44,189 --> 00:25:47,391
I don't think it was a good death.
521
00:25:56,467 --> 00:25:59,569
During my walk, I saw a group of dead people
522
00:25:59,571 --> 00:26:02,472
trying to get the attention of the living
523
00:26:02,474 --> 00:26:04,040
in the master bedroom.
524
00:26:04,042 --> 00:26:08,178
I'm meeting with an artist to
describe this horrifying scene.
525
00:26:08,180 --> 00:26:11,515
There's two people sleeping in the bed.
526
00:26:11,517 --> 00:26:16,052
There's a bunch of dead people,
like, holding their legs...
527
00:26:16,054 --> 00:26:18,488
Four on one side and
like three on the other.
528
00:26:23,361 --> 00:26:25,462
Is this what you saw?
529
00:26:26,664 --> 00:26:28,445
Yes. That's what I saw.
530
00:26:49,983 --> 00:26:53,652
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
finished our investigations,
531
00:26:53,654 --> 00:26:56,928
it's time to reveal our findings
to our clients and each other
532
00:26:57,028 --> 00:26:58,360
for the first time.
533
00:26:58,362 --> 00:27:01,071
Well, Amy, I'd like you
to meet Chris and Laura.
534
00:27:01,171 --> 00:27:04,606
The activity here is pretty bad,
up to the point where
535
00:27:04,608 --> 00:27:06,408
Laura's ready to pack up her bags and leave.
536
00:27:06,410 --> 00:27:10,712
Now, this property has been in Chris' family
537
00:27:10,714 --> 00:27:13,014
- for generations.
- AMY: Okay.
538
00:27:13,016 --> 00:27:16,034
So, he does not want to leave,
no matter what.
539
00:27:16,036 --> 00:27:17,318
But one thing they both agree on,
540
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,187
they're worried about
their 2-year-old daughter,
541
00:27:19,189 --> 00:27:20,889
and that's why we're here.
542
00:27:20,891 --> 00:27:23,425
Now that Amy knows a little
bit about what's going on here,
543
00:27:23,427 --> 00:27:27,095
I'm gonna have her tell us about her walk.
544
00:27:30,433 --> 00:27:33,701
There were a couple of individuals
545
00:27:33,703 --> 00:27:38,339
who initially showed
themselves like shadow figures,
546
00:27:38,341 --> 00:27:40,158
but they're not.
547
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,195
One of them loves the
bathroom because it's quiet.
548
00:27:44,197 --> 00:27:46,147
It's like his sanctuary.
549
00:27:46,149 --> 00:27:47,816
And there was a living woman
550
00:27:47,818 --> 00:27:52,253
that I saw that he keyed in on,
and she had dark hair.
551
00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,055
And he's standing right behind her.
552
00:27:54,057 --> 00:27:56,708
And one of the things in the bathroom
553
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:59,527
was this sense of always being watched.
554
00:27:59,529 --> 00:28:02,997
When we first moved in, I hated the bathroom
555
00:28:02,999 --> 00:28:04,165
I hated it.
556
00:28:04,167 --> 00:28:07,202
Like, the first two years we lived here,
557
00:28:07,204 --> 00:28:08,937
I wouldn't go in there.
558
00:28:08,939 --> 00:28:10,288
Interesting.
559
00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:13,875
And, uh, my daughter,
she'll stay in that bathroom.
560
00:28:13,877 --> 00:28:16,344
She's mentioned talking to a man before.
561
00:28:16,346 --> 00:28:18,363
CHRIS: She has mentioned
talking to a man before.
562
00:28:18,365 --> 00:28:19,214
Wow.
563
00:28:19,216 --> 00:28:20,348
Okay.
564
00:28:20,350 --> 00:28:22,717
STEVE: Now, do you know
anything about this guy,
565
00:28:22,719 --> 00:28:24,536
who he was in life?
566
00:28:24,538 --> 00:28:28,122
Well, he was about 6 feet tall, thin.
567
00:28:28,124 --> 00:28:29,924
He indicated that he died outside.
568
00:28:29,926 --> 00:28:33,595
He had something kind of hanging off him,
569
00:28:33,597 --> 00:28:35,296
like a moss or a mold or something.
570
00:28:35,298 --> 00:28:38,933
I got that this was not a good death.
571
00:28:38,935 --> 00:28:41,603
I kind of think that he was murdered.
572
00:28:41,605 --> 00:28:44,105
It does bring to mind one story
573
00:28:44,107 --> 00:28:45,740
that took place right near here,
574
00:28:45,742 --> 00:28:49,043
and it involves a distant relative of yours.
575
00:28:49,045 --> 00:28:53,348
His name was Lonnie Lane.
He was 20 years old.
576
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:55,250
He got involved with a 14-year-old girl,
577
00:28:55,252 --> 00:28:57,952
this girl Glennie Sauls.
578
00:28:57,954 --> 00:29:00,421
Now, her parents were not happy
about them being together.
579
00:29:00,423 --> 00:29:02,490
They didn't like the idea
of the age difference,
580
00:29:02,492 --> 00:29:07,896
but one day in March of 1899,
the parents were away.
581
00:29:07,898 --> 00:29:09,247
Lonnie came to Glennie's house.
582
00:29:09,249 --> 00:29:11,499
They both left and walked into the woods,
never came out.
583
00:29:11,501 --> 00:29:14,836
They were both found later,
one shot to the head each.
584
00:29:14,838 --> 00:29:18,273
Here's the article from it.
585
00:29:18,275 --> 00:29:19,741
So, when she said the moss,
586
00:29:19,743 --> 00:29:21,320
the only thing I'm thinking
was they were in the woods.
587
00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:23,386
They did die outside.
588
00:29:23,388 --> 00:29:25,021
CHRIS: I've heard of
Lonnie Lane in our family.
589
00:29:25,023 --> 00:29:26,589
- Really?
- Yes.
590
00:29:26,591 --> 00:29:27,724
I didn't know about this.
591
00:29:29,593 --> 00:29:32,946
That's one of the people
that's presenting themselves
592
00:29:32,948 --> 00:29:36,686
- kind of like a shadow person, but it's not.
- No.
593
00:29:36,786 --> 00:29:38,452
Okay. So, who's the second guy?
594
00:29:38,454 --> 00:29:42,940
I walked in, went into this
area by that door in the hall,
595
00:29:42,942 --> 00:29:45,342
and he was, like, covered
596
00:29:45,344 --> 00:29:50,648
in, like, a black ooze, oil, tar substance.
597
00:29:50,650 --> 00:29:56,320
And he was actually
interacting with a child.
598
00:29:56,322 --> 00:30:02,126
And the kid was freaked out.
599
00:30:02,128 --> 00:30:03,327
And it's, like,
600
00:30:03,329 --> 00:30:06,130
the way it's moving is very... like this...
601
00:30:09,234 --> 00:30:10,701
To, like, grab the kid.
602
00:30:10,703 --> 00:30:14,738
It's coming after this kid.
603
00:30:14,740 --> 00:30:20,911
I did get that he was black,
and he hates white people.
604
00:30:20,913 --> 00:30:26,250
I also got that he died outside,
and it was nighttime.
605
00:30:26,252 --> 00:30:29,887
And one word that I was hearing was "warm."
606
00:30:29,889 --> 00:30:31,822
"Warm"
607
00:30:31,824 --> 00:30:34,592
STEVE: All right, well,
608
00:30:34,594 --> 00:30:36,944
there was an incident where a guy got killed
609
00:30:36,946 --> 00:30:38,696
on this property back in 1949.
610
00:30:38,698 --> 00:30:40,898
He was a black guy. He was 35 years old.
611
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:44,435
His name was William Loften.
612
00:30:44,437 --> 00:30:46,737
Now, Loften was a tenant farmer
613
00:30:46,739 --> 00:30:49,506
for your great-great-grandfather Hugh.
614
00:30:49,508 --> 00:30:52,042
Now, you had mentioned
that he died at night.
615
00:30:52,044 --> 00:30:53,978
- You heard "warm?"
- Yep.
616
00:30:53,980 --> 00:30:56,714
On March 14, 1949,
617
00:30:56,716 --> 00:30:58,682
his house caught fire,
618
00:30:58,684 --> 00:31:02,553
and he was burned to death inside the house.
619
00:31:02,555 --> 00:31:04,021
This is the guy's death certificate.
620
00:31:04,023 --> 00:31:06,590
Now, the official cause listed is burns.
621
00:31:06,592 --> 00:31:09,493
Police say it was a stove
that caused the fire,
622
00:31:09,495 --> 00:31:13,631
but what I found odd,
623
00:31:13,633 --> 00:31:17,902
there was article that says
"Fifth Negro Burns at Farm."
624
00:31:17,904 --> 00:31:23,361
The historian said there was
Klan activity here at the time.
625
00:31:23,461 --> 00:31:24,647
There was.
626
00:31:24,747 --> 00:31:28,182
But a fire like that's easily
done to make it look accidental.
627
00:31:28,184 --> 00:31:29,250
Mm-hmm.
628
00:31:33,155 --> 00:31:37,792
When I walked in the living room area,
629
00:31:37,794 --> 00:31:40,161
I look at the wall,
630
00:31:40,163 --> 00:31:44,632
and there was about 15 to
18 corpses standing upright.
631
00:31:44,634 --> 00:31:48,319
All of these people were together,
632
00:31:48,321 --> 00:31:52,640
and for some reason, somebody bound them.
633
00:31:52,642 --> 00:31:54,375
What does that mean?
634
00:31:54,377 --> 00:31:57,712
Someone at some point put a spell on them.
635
00:31:57,714 --> 00:32:01,883
So, they can see everything that's going on,
636
00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:05,319
but they can't speak and they can't move.
637
00:32:05,321 --> 00:32:10,141
Who would've been in the
house that would've bound...
638
00:32:10,143 --> 00:32:12,260
Well, that's the thing.
639
00:32:12,262 --> 00:32:15,863
The other part of what I got was that
640
00:32:15,865 --> 00:32:18,749
most of these people were female.
641
00:32:18,751 --> 00:32:20,468
They were all white.
642
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:23,671
All of them seemed to have
died at the same time.
643
00:32:23,673 --> 00:32:26,841
I saw it was, like, a nice day.
644
00:32:26,843 --> 00:32:28,910
All of a sudden, everybody's running.
645
00:32:28,912 --> 00:32:31,379
I know that they were
running for their lives.
646
00:32:32,199 --> 00:32:33,699
_
647
00:32:33,749 --> 00:32:37,118
Something was done with their bodies.
648
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:42,390
Like, I don't know if it was a mass grave,
desecration.
649
00:32:42,392 --> 00:32:43,524
That sounds spot-on
650
00:32:43,526 --> 00:32:45,126
for something that happened
here 300 years ago.
651
00:32:46,662 --> 00:32:51,332
In 1711, the Tuscarora Indians went,
basically, nuts
652
00:32:51,334 --> 00:32:53,234
and started attacking everybody and killing
'em,
653
00:32:53,236 --> 00:32:55,336
'cause the white settlers that were here
654
00:32:55,338 --> 00:32:56,804
were stealing from them.
655
00:32:56,806 --> 00:32:58,973
They were raping their women.
656
00:32:58,975 --> 00:33:04,045
So, they decided to attack
them in a three-day rampage.
657
00:33:04,047 --> 00:33:08,182
They killed 140 men, women, and children.
658
00:33:08,184 --> 00:33:09,784
They mutilated the bodies.
659
00:33:09,786 --> 00:33:12,119
They ripped babies from
pregnant women's stomachs.
660
00:33:12,121 --> 00:33:13,454
Oh, my goodness.
661
00:33:13,456 --> 00:33:15,189
So, now, they were so scared
662
00:33:15,191 --> 00:33:18,292
they couldn't even go and
get their bodies to bury 'em.
663
00:33:18,294 --> 00:33:20,861
So, after this attack happened,
664
00:33:20,863 --> 00:33:23,631
North Carolina decided to
reach out to South Carolina
665
00:33:23,633 --> 00:33:25,299
for help.
666
00:33:25,301 --> 00:33:27,318
They sent a guy named Colonel John Barnwell.
667
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,638
So, what Barnwell wound up
doing is setting up a fort,
668
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,940
Fort Barnwell, right near here.
669
00:33:32,942 --> 00:33:35,626
So, what he did was try
to sign a peace treaty
670
00:33:35,628 --> 00:33:37,912
and said, "All right, come to the fort
671
00:33:37,914 --> 00:33:41,082
and we'll sign this treaty,
and everything will be nice."
672
00:33:41,084 --> 00:33:42,683
So, 400 Native Americans came,
673
00:33:42,685 --> 00:33:44,885
thinking it was gonna be a celebration.
674
00:33:44,887 --> 00:33:47,455
So, they came with kids, women.
675
00:33:47,457 --> 00:33:48,656
Barnwell attacked.
676
00:33:48,658 --> 00:33:50,341
They weren't expecting it.
677
00:33:50,343 --> 00:33:52,159
50 of them died right away,
678
00:33:52,161 --> 00:33:54,428
and the rest,
they basically took into slavery
679
00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:56,314
and sent them down to South Carolina
680
00:33:56,316 --> 00:33:58,833
to be put in the slave trade.
681
00:33:58,835 --> 00:34:02,269
Matter of fact, see this fireplace here?
682
00:34:02,271 --> 00:34:04,789
That was built from bricks
683
00:34:04,791 --> 00:34:07,708
that was from the fort that Barnwell built.
684
00:34:07,710 --> 00:34:09,910
Oh, gosh.
685
00:34:09,912 --> 00:34:11,912
My grandfather built this house.
686
00:34:11,914 --> 00:34:13,748
- Your grandfather built this house?
- In '74.
687
00:34:13,750 --> 00:34:15,216
Wow. Okay.
688
00:34:15,218 --> 00:34:19,553
Well, I wasn't sure if he lived here or not,
689
00:34:19,555 --> 00:34:25,359
but I saw this elderly
man in the living room.
690
00:34:25,361 --> 00:34:28,796
He was very attached to this location,
691
00:34:28,798 --> 00:34:32,433
and I got that he died
from a long-term illness.
692
00:34:34,102 --> 00:34:37,405
The other thing was there were things
693
00:34:37,407 --> 00:34:41,325
that happened that he felt responsible for,
694
00:34:41,327 --> 00:34:44,812
that had possibly led to some deaths,
695
00:34:44,814 --> 00:34:47,748
and it involved racial issues.
696
00:34:47,750 --> 00:34:52,403
And he was like, "It's all my fault."
697
00:34:52,405 --> 00:34:55,439
So, I don't know if the illness affected him
698
00:34:55,441 --> 00:34:57,725
or if he also had, like,
a little bit of dementia
699
00:34:57,727 --> 00:34:58,959
or something like that,
700
00:34:58,961 --> 00:35:02,313
because he's very lost, very confused.
701
00:35:02,315 --> 00:35:05,232
You're talking of my grandfather.
702
00:35:06,735 --> 00:35:09,937
He had Parkinson's,
and he had a lot of dementia.
703
00:35:09,939 --> 00:35:12,239
Okay.
704
00:35:12,241 --> 00:35:14,442
[Sniffles]
705
00:35:14,444 --> 00:35:16,477
CHRIS: This was his dream home.
706
00:35:16,479 --> 00:35:17,445
Take that.
707
00:35:17,447 --> 00:35:19,647
This was his pride and joy.
708
00:35:19,649 --> 00:35:21,165
Sorry.
709
00:35:21,167 --> 00:35:25,519
But why would he blame himself
for the racial tension, though?
710
00:35:27,606 --> 00:35:30,758
Yeah, I'd really rather not talk about it.
711
00:35:32,661 --> 00:35:35,296
[Sniffles]
712
00:35:35,298 --> 00:35:38,432
CHRIS: Some of these people
that would be brought into this
713
00:35:38,434 --> 00:35:40,284
are still living,
and I don't want to hurt feelings.
714
00:35:40,286 --> 00:35:42,703
No, no, no. It's totally understandable.
715
00:35:42,705 --> 00:35:45,272
But you are talking about my grandfather.
716
00:35:45,274 --> 00:35:48,576
This is crazy.
717
00:35:54,349 --> 00:35:55,800
Anything else?
718
00:35:55,802 --> 00:35:58,953
I went into the master bedroom,
719
00:35:58,955 --> 00:36:01,021
and I saw a living woman there...
720
00:36:01,023 --> 00:36:03,457
thin, dark hair.
721
00:36:03,459 --> 00:36:06,994
And she looked defeated.
722
00:36:06,996 --> 00:36:09,563
She was sitting on the side of the bed,
723
00:36:09,565 --> 00:36:11,432
like [bleep]
724
00:36:11,434 --> 00:36:15,803
I got that she's having a lot of pain,
725
00:36:15,805 --> 00:36:17,605
really bad headaches.
726
00:36:17,607 --> 00:36:20,541
In that area, a whole bunch
of dead people came out.
727
00:36:20,543 --> 00:36:25,079
They can't really see anything,
but they can see living people.
728
00:36:25,081 --> 00:36:28,048
And I saw two people in the bed
729
00:36:28,050 --> 00:36:32,786
and the dead people surrounding
them and touching them.
730
00:36:32,788 --> 00:36:37,224
They were trying to, you know,
get people's attention.
731
00:36:37,226 --> 00:36:40,127
You were telling me about it
happening in the master bedroom.
732
00:36:40,129 --> 00:36:41,962
LAURA: Mm-hmm. I remember laying in bed,
733
00:36:41,964 --> 00:36:44,298
and it was just, like, fluttering
734
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:45,933
over the end of the bed,
735
00:36:45,935 --> 00:36:49,503
like, maybe smoothing it out,
pulling the corners down.
736
00:36:49,505 --> 00:36:50,938
Okay.
737
00:36:50,940 --> 00:36:52,239
But you've been grabbed.
738
00:36:52,241 --> 00:36:54,208
CHRIS: Definitely.
739
00:36:54,210 --> 00:36:57,178
It was just, like, you know?
Like, "Hey, I'm here."
740
00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:58,746
Wow.
741
00:36:58,748 --> 00:37:04,185
Well, I did do a sketch of what I saw.
742
00:37:12,027 --> 00:37:14,261
That looks like you in the bed.
743
00:37:14,263 --> 00:37:15,996
[Bleep]
744
00:37:15,998 --> 00:37:17,398
[Sighs]
745
00:37:19,807 --> 00:37:21,225
LAURA: I don't like it.
746
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:23,500
_
747
00:37:24,179 --> 00:37:25,084
You okay?
748
00:37:44,164 --> 00:37:48,000
AMY: I did do a sketch of what I saw.
749
00:37:56,309 --> 00:37:58,177
STEVE: That looks like you in the bed.
750
00:37:58,179 --> 00:37:59,845
CHRIS: [Bleep]
751
00:38:03,049 --> 00:38:04,249
[Sighs]
752
00:38:04,251 --> 00:38:07,419
LAURA: I don't like it.
753
00:38:12,258 --> 00:38:13,325
You okay?
754
00:38:25,238 --> 00:38:30,629
I have countless times sat on that bed
755
00:38:30,729 --> 00:38:33,463
and cried on that bed
756
00:38:33,465 --> 00:38:35,515
and just been like. "[bleep]"
757
00:38:35,517 --> 00:38:38,234
Like, "Why did I move out here? [bleep]
758
00:38:38,236 --> 00:38:41,104
But what do they want? What do they want?
759
00:38:41,106 --> 00:38:43,273
They don't want to be here anymore,
760
00:38:43,275 --> 00:38:44,374
because they're stuck.
761
00:38:44,376 --> 00:38:49,312
And the female in particular has abilities.
762
00:38:50,314 --> 00:38:55,952
And so the dead are very attracted to that.
763
00:38:55,954 --> 00:38:58,588
And they want help,
and they don't want to be here anymore.
764
00:38:58,590 --> 00:39:00,156
I mean, did you have any idea?
765
00:39:00,158 --> 00:39:01,174
I knew it was me.
766
00:39:01,176 --> 00:39:02,258
Deep... I knew...
767
00:39:02,260 --> 00:39:04,561
in the back of my head, it was me.
768
00:39:04,563 --> 00:39:05,729
I knew it.
769
00:39:05,731 --> 00:39:08,865
I didn't want to say it ever, out loud,
770
00:39:08,867 --> 00:39:10,166
but I knew it.
771
00:39:10,168 --> 00:39:13,169
So, now, what's got me
concerned is the baby.
772
00:39:13,171 --> 00:39:15,238
The baby sees stuff and talks to stuff.
773
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,374
I'm 100% positive of that.
774
00:39:17,376 --> 00:39:19,009
I'm 100% positive of that,
775
00:39:19,011 --> 00:39:21,811
and that's the only
reason why y'all are here.
776
00:39:21,813 --> 00:39:25,115
Well, when we spoke,
you said you'd do anything,
777
00:39:25,117 --> 00:39:27,000
short of selling this house,
778
00:39:27,002 --> 00:39:29,219
- to protect your family.
- Correct.
779
00:39:29,221 --> 00:39:31,438
Okay. So, now we're gonna
find out what it's gonna take.
780
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,856
So, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy
781
00:39:32,858 --> 00:39:34,924
and see what she's got for us.
782
00:39:38,295 --> 00:39:43,533
So, there's a few steps,
and it'll take a little while.
783
00:39:43,535 --> 00:39:45,295
What needs to be done first
784
00:39:45,395 --> 00:39:49,497
is a male who's black who's also a medium
785
00:39:49,499 --> 00:39:55,436
needs to come in and make contact
786
00:39:55,438 --> 00:40:00,107
with the male that's in
the living room area.
787
00:40:00,109 --> 00:40:02,710
He needs to talk to him and listen to him
788
00:40:02,712 --> 00:40:06,047
and work with him to move him on.
789
00:40:06,049 --> 00:40:09,917
Then, the second day, he needs to come back
790
00:40:09,919 --> 00:40:13,487
and deal with the master-bedroom situation,
791
00:40:13,489 --> 00:40:14,855
which he needs to seal.
792
00:40:14,857 --> 00:40:16,857
When he's doing the sealing,
793
00:40:16,859 --> 00:40:18,693
the last thing I do want him to do
794
00:40:18,695 --> 00:40:21,295
is to use tar water at the end.
795
00:40:21,297 --> 00:40:22,747
This is something
796
00:40:22,749 --> 00:40:26,167
that completely negates
the space for the dead.
797
00:40:26,169 --> 00:40:28,636
So, there will never be another dead person
798
00:40:28,638 --> 00:40:30,538
that comes in that room, ever.
799
00:40:31,540 --> 00:40:34,008
After that,
800
00:40:34,010 --> 00:40:38,846
a shaman needs to be
contacted from the tribe.
801
00:40:38,848 --> 00:40:39,980
Tuscarora tribe.
802
00:40:39,982 --> 00:40:42,113
- Yeah.
- Okay.
803
00:40:42,213 --> 00:40:45,247
So, they need to come and do a release
804
00:40:45,249 --> 00:40:48,016
for the people that are trapped in the wall
805
00:40:48,018 --> 00:40:51,353
'cause they are the only ones
who can undo what they did.
806
00:40:51,355 --> 00:40:54,189
Once that's done,
807
00:40:54,191 --> 00:40:57,125
the elderly gentleman, your grandfather,
808
00:40:57,127 --> 00:41:01,330
will leave of his own accord
'cause he'll feel good.
809
00:41:01,332 --> 00:41:03,158
So, now, what about her
abilities and the baby?
810
00:41:03,258 --> 00:41:04,925
Her bedroom is going to be
811
00:41:04,927 --> 00:41:10,664
completely sealed forever
from any dead coming in.
812
00:41:10,666 --> 00:41:13,834
What happens if one day your
daughter comes to you and says,
813
00:41:13,836 --> 00:41:16,069
you know, "All this stuff is happening."
814
00:41:16,071 --> 00:41:17,587
Would you want her to close up?
815
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:19,272
Yeah.
816
00:41:19,274 --> 00:41:21,908
You guys won't know until
she's a little bit older
817
00:41:21,910 --> 00:41:24,811
if she's going to be open
818
00:41:24,813 --> 00:41:28,181
or if she's going to close down or repress.
819
00:41:28,183 --> 00:41:31,251
So, it's kind of a waiting game right now
820
00:41:31,253 --> 00:41:33,753
to see which way she's gonna go.
821
00:41:33,755 --> 00:41:36,556
So, I want to ask you straight out,
822
00:41:36,558 --> 00:41:39,492
are you guys gonna take Amy's advice?
823
00:41:39,494 --> 00:41:40,527
Absolutely.
824
00:41:40,529 --> 00:41:41,361
Okay.
825
00:41:41,363 --> 00:41:42,379
100%.
826
00:41:42,381 --> 00:41:44,130
Okay, good. I'm glad to hear that.
827
00:41:44,132 --> 00:41:45,799
Yeah, I want this house to be ours...
828
00:41:45,801 --> 00:41:48,869
me, her, my daughter's.
829
00:41:48,871 --> 00:41:51,938
AMY: I'm concerned for Laura and Chris,
830
00:41:51,940 --> 00:41:56,076
as the dead within their home
pose a very serious danger.
831
00:41:56,078 --> 00:41:58,111
But I believe if they follow my advice,
832
00:41:58,113 --> 00:42:00,981
they'll remain safe and
live a peaceful life,
833
00:42:00,983 --> 00:42:04,451
keeping their home in the
family for generations to come.
834
00:42:04,501 --> 00:42:09,051
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