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AMY: He hates them.
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He's always in a rage.
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I feel like I live in a house of Hell.
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"You're mine. You can't escape."
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There's a black mist
coming out of the wall.
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I'm seeing the blood on the walls.
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He was pretty ruthless.
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And I felt two hands, like that.
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And it just goes whoosh.
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Its goal is to kill all these women.
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"You're mine. You can't escape."
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My name is Amy Allan.
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[ Crying ] What's happening?
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I see dead people.
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It seems like a devil.
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I speak to dead people.
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He's pissed off.
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And they speak to me.
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I felt real fear.
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But there's only one way to
know if my findings are real.
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I think she's being murdered.
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I rely on my partner.
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I'm Steve Di Schiavi.
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I'm a retired New York
City homicide detective.
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Serial killer pops in my head.
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And I know every person,
every house has secrets.
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Nobody believes me.
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It's my job to reveal them.
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- Do you think there's still bodies there?
- I do.
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But Steve and I never speak...
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We never communicate
during an investigation.
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Until the very end.
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You got problems. I got news for you.
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When we uncover if it's
safe for you to stay...
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This is our house...
whether they like it or not.
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Or time to get out.
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This is their house, the house of the dead.
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I'm in Hanover, Pennsylvania,
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about two hours outside of Philly.
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I'm on my way to meet
with a woman named Deanna.
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Now, she sounded really
desperate on the phone.
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She thinks the house is
slowly trying to kill her.
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I'm hoping Amy and I can
get to the bottom of this
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and help this woman out.
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[ Bird screeches ]
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MATTHEW: Before Amy arrives,
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I look for any leading information.
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Family photos and religious icons
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could influence her findings,
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so it's important that I
cover or remove them all
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before she begins her walk.
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AMY: There's something here,
but I don't know what it is.
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I'm hearing it goes way, way back.
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It goes way, way, way back.
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It affects the women mostly,
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but it touches everyone around them.
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Either they lost their kids or
their husband or their lives.
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And I think that its goal
is to kill all these women.
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STEVE: Deanna, you
sounded pretty hysterical
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on the phone when we spoke.
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Now that I'm here, I need you to tell me
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what the hell is going on.
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I want my home back.
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I feel like I live in a house of hell.
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I'm so tired of it. I'm so done of it.
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What's going on?
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I'm seeing apparitions.
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I'm seeing shadow figures.
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We're seeing black mists.
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I'm hearing growls.
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I'm being bit, scratched.
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[ Sighs ] The attacks that you've had,
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how often do they happen?
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Every day.
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Geez.
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Why don't you just move?
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I'll be damned if anybody is
gonna run me out of my house.
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We're gonna get this fixed.
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Well, I like this attitude,
to be honest with you.
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How long you living here?
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Seven years.
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Okay, and you live here with your husband.
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Yes, Tom. And it's just the two of you?
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Yes. Initially, my first
daughter lived here,
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but she had to move out.
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She had to move out?
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She couldn't take it.
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Okay, so, seven years
has this being going on,
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or has it had progressively gotten worse?
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It has progressively gotten worse.
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I've got to the point
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where I won't even sleep upstairs anymore.
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I don't even sleep with my own husband.
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Where are you sleeping?
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I'm sleeping in the spare bedroom.
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Okay, is it easier for you to sleep there?
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No. I have no safe haven.
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No matter where I go in this
house, I can't find relief.
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I'm seeing this woman.
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Oh...
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Overwhelming panic, overwhelming fear,
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and got to get away, got
to get out, got to get away.
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This is a living woman?
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Yes.
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Moving from room to room to
room to room, trying to be...
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Well, if I go here, will this help it?
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Will I go here, will this help it?
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Will this make it stop?
Will this make it stop?
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Will this make it stop?
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And the thing...
this thing's saying,
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"No, it doesn't matter where you are.
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I'll find you. I'll find you."
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Uh, "You're mine. You can't escape."
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And I hear a deep male voice.
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Is this the thing that tries to kill women?
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Yes.
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Ugh, I feel like he
comes up from the grave.
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He was alive.
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He was a... a
living person once.
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Ah, this is...
it's very creepy.
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It's very... this
is [bleep] creepy.
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STEVE: But did things get
better when you moved down here?
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DEANNA: No.
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Like, one time, I was laying on my side,
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and as I was asleep,
I just felt a stroking,
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just stroking my hair, stroking,
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and then when I opened up my eyes to look,
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there was this woman in
period dress, late 1800s.
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She looks like a farmer
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or some kind of, um, housekeeper.
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Okay, so, if you saw a
sketch or a photo of her,
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would you recognize her?
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- Oh, yes.
- Okay.
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Anything else going on in here?
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Yes.
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When I wake up,
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this is what I have on me
in the middle of my back.
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Could you have possibly
done this to yourself
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in the middle of the night?
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No. This is as far as I can reach.
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Is there anything else that
you are experiencing here?
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Yes, I have this one particular dream
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that just keeps recurring.
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I'm in a cemetery,
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and as I'm looking through the cemetery,
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these five monks levitating, no feet,
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come straight for me.
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Then out of nowhere,
this, like, a shadow man.
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He's super tall. He's got the black cloak.
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He shot up from the ground, just pomp!
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And at that point when he shot up,
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I was pinned down,
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and then I opened my eyes
like, "Deanna, it's a dream.
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"Get out of this. It's a dream.
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Wake up."
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And when I woke up,
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he was standing at the
at the side of the bed,
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looking at me, about 7' tall, red eyes.
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He had, like, a hat.
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And as soon as you saw
him, you know it's evil.
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What'd you do?
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Oh, my God, I just started bawling,
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put the covers over my head,
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just, "Dear Lord, get him out. Get him out.
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Dear Lord, please help me."
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Then what?
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Then he said, "Your Yahweh
cannot help you now."
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What the hell is that?
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It's another term for God.
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She thinks they're dreams,
but they're not dreams.
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She's [bleep] awake.
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He holds her down, and he's
telling her, "I smell you.
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I taste you. I've got you."
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He comes to the side of the bed.
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He's always, like, over
her, hovering over her.
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He manipulates how he's seen.
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He can look like smoke.
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He has a hat, a black hat.
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His face is rotting.
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He's smelling me.
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It's giving me chills down my back,
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but it really is very disturbing.
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Oh [bleep]
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[ Sighs ]
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[ Whimpers ]
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STEVE: And this is the room
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you used to sleep in with your husband.
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DEANNA: That's correct.
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So, now what would happen up here
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that you're not sleeping up here?
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I was coming up the steps,
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and then I felt two hands just, like that.
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- So, that hard?
- That hard.
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I was shoved, and I just fell right off.
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I mean, my feet were kicked
off, and I hit the wall.
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And I landed on the floor down there.
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I couldn't breathe.
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The wind had been knocked out of me.
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It felt like something
was just sitting on me.
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I could not move, and
I had excruciating pain.
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You must be frightened every time
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- you've got to come up these stairs now.
- Yeah.
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It feels like somebody's
literally going like,
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"Oh, you're not coming up here.
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Oh, no, you don't."
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Like, I just feel that coming
down the stairs towards me.
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[ Breathing deeply ]
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Oh, this is...
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I'm seeing the sniffy guy.
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He's much more aggressive downstairs.
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Here, he's almost like a seducing,
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like, soothing, but it's bad.
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It's fake.
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It's so he can figure you out...
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and he can destroy you.
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Tom, I was talking to your wife, Deanna,
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and, uh, she told me
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about the horrific things
she's going through.
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Now, you guys aren't
even sleeping together,
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really, anymore, right?
She's sleeping downstairs?
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Right, she's sleeping downstairs now, yep.
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It takes its toll on, uh, me.
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I'm sure it's taking its toll on her.
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And what about moving?
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- You ever take that into consideration?
- No.
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Nobody's gonna tell me
to get out of my house.
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Are... are you
a skeptic at all?
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Certain things, I can't find
a reason for or an answer for.
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Okay.
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I'm skeptical, but, yeah,
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I'd still like to find
the answers to things.
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Okay, but you've had some
experiences, is that right?
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Yes.
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I hear footsteps and
then, I don't see anything.
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Where'd you hear the footsteps?
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Uh, it sounded like they
were walking on the roof
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when we were in the bedroom.
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And when we're in the family room,
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it sounds like they're going
up and down the steps here
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to the basement and to the bedroom.
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Do you ever think somebody's
breaking into the house?
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I don't think that, 'cause
I do have a security system.
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I would know if somebody
broke into the house.
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Okay. Has anything else like that happened?
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Deanna and I were upstairs in the bedroom,
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sitting and talking one
time, and, uh, I heard voices.
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Like, I would say something,
and it would repeat.
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And she would say something,
it would repeat it,
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like, mocking us.
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That I can't explain, 'cause I heard it.
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She heard it.
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Was anybody else in
the house with you guys?
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No, just her and I.
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It couldn't have been
somebody from outside.
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They wouldn't have been able to hear you.
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Right, and they wouldn't
have been able to repeat
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00:11:57,905 --> 00:11:59,171
what we were saying 'cause
they wouldn't have heard us.
259
00:12:06,043 --> 00:12:10,211
I hate it down here. I hate it.
260
00:12:13,579 --> 00:12:14,680
I see, like, a teenage girl
261
00:12:14,682 --> 00:12:16,215
getting the [bleep] beat out of her.
262
00:12:16,217 --> 00:12:17,684
By who?
263
00:12:20,319 --> 00:12:22,455
It's a short man.
264
00:12:22,457 --> 00:12:23,890
Uh, he's kind of pudgy.
265
00:12:23,892 --> 00:12:26,327
He has, like, some kind of job
266
00:12:26,329 --> 00:12:30,401
that puts him in a position
of power over people.
267
00:12:31,804 --> 00:12:32,904
Oh! Oh, oh!
268
00:12:34,708 --> 00:12:37,278
I think this man has a
heart attack here and dies.
269
00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,816
This is a different guy than
the... the guy, the other guy.
270
00:12:41,818 --> 00:12:42,884
He's always...
271
00:12:42,886 --> 00:12:45,054
It's... it's like
you can hear this guy,
272
00:12:45,056 --> 00:12:47,123
ah, 'cause he's always yelling.
273
00:12:47,125 --> 00:12:51,295
You'll hear, like, him, like,
stomping around down here,
274
00:12:51,297 --> 00:12:54,632
or, like, causing a ruckus, like, yelling.
275
00:12:54,634 --> 00:12:55,833
He's angry, this one.
276
00:12:55,835 --> 00:12:57,803
He's, like, always [bleep] angry.
277
00:12:57,805 --> 00:12:59,472
I feel like he's gonna attack me,
278
00:12:59,474 --> 00:13:01,508
like he's gonna beat the [bleep] out of me.
279
00:13:09,046 --> 00:13:10,749
What's going on up here?
280
00:13:10,751 --> 00:13:12,886
Deanna and I were sitting
at the kitchen table,
281
00:13:12,888 --> 00:13:14,188
and she was telling me
282
00:13:14,190 --> 00:13:16,724
about all the bruises
she's had on her arms.
283
00:13:16,726 --> 00:13:18,526
And I was just kidding, said,
284
00:13:18,528 --> 00:13:20,896
"Oh, it's probably the
ghost did that to you."
285
00:13:20,898 --> 00:13:23,631
And it wasn't long, I said,
"Hey, I feel a burn on my arm."
286
00:13:23,633 --> 00:13:25,233
And I had a long-sleeve shirt on,
287
00:13:25,235 --> 00:13:26,334
rolled up the sleeve,
288
00:13:26,336 --> 00:13:28,169
and I had a single scratch mark across it.
289
00:13:28,171 --> 00:13:29,402
What about the cats?
290
00:13:29,404 --> 00:13:31,237
- Were you playing with the cats at all?
- No.
291
00:13:31,239 --> 00:13:32,272
No, and our cats are declawed,
292
00:13:32,274 --> 00:13:33,372
so they couldn't have scratched.
293
00:13:33,374 --> 00:13:35,173
Anything else?
294
00:13:35,175 --> 00:13:37,177
We were sitting in the family room,
295
00:13:37,179 --> 00:13:39,312
and the cats were here in the kitchen,
296
00:13:39,314 --> 00:13:40,445
making weird noises.
297
00:13:40,447 --> 00:13:41,411
So, we both got up.
298
00:13:41,413 --> 00:13:43,179
Deanna turned the kitchen light on,
299
00:13:43,181 --> 00:13:45,781
and coming out, like, right in this area,
300
00:13:45,783 --> 00:13:49,045
there was, like, a black
mist coming out of the wall,
301
00:13:49,047 --> 00:13:51,545
and it wasn't long, it just, hanging there.
302
00:13:51,547 --> 00:13:54,278
And then, it just started
twirling like a tornado,
303
00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,747
and it went right up.
304
00:13:55,749 --> 00:13:59,451
I think the spot's still
there today, right up in there.
305
00:13:59,453 --> 00:14:00,785
I can see it.
306
00:14:00,787 --> 00:14:02,950
Have you tried painting over that or...
307
00:14:02,952 --> 00:14:04,618
We did try painting over it.
308
00:14:04,620 --> 00:14:06,253
It didn't... it
doesn't cover it.
309
00:14:06,255 --> 00:14:07,688
Has anything else happened in here?
310
00:14:07,690 --> 00:14:09,957
I get foul odors every so often,
311
00:14:09,959 --> 00:14:11,591
and it smells like urine,
312
00:14:11,593 --> 00:14:14,662
fecal odors, and kerosene
every once in a while.
313
00:14:14,664 --> 00:14:16,928
No septic tank problems
or anything like that?
314
00:14:16,930 --> 00:14:18,561
Nope, we're on, uh, town sewer.
315
00:14:18,563 --> 00:14:20,865
No problems with the pipes
backing up or anything?
316
00:14:20,867 --> 00:14:22,367
No, never a problem with that.
317
00:14:22,369 --> 00:14:23,502
You walk into it,
318
00:14:23,504 --> 00:14:25,104
and it just kind of takes your breath away.
319
00:14:30,541 --> 00:14:32,576
What is this thing?
320
00:14:32,578 --> 00:14:34,446
Oof.
321
00:14:36,513 --> 00:14:39,148
Like a rush.
322
00:14:41,687 --> 00:14:45,055
I see, like, this person
comes out of that room,
323
00:14:45,057 --> 00:14:46,658
is like, "Hello."
324
00:14:46,660 --> 00:14:49,860
"Uh-huh," goes in here,
is, like, walking out here,
325
00:14:49,862 --> 00:14:52,799
and then all of a sudden,
like, the door flies open,
326
00:14:52,801 --> 00:14:56,936
and the living people
here see a black mist.
327
00:14:56,938 --> 00:14:58,940
This is the angry guy from the basement,
328
00:14:58,942 --> 00:15:02,778
and it's stinky, a really bad smell.
329
00:15:04,016 --> 00:15:06,687
And it just goes whoosh at the person.
330
00:15:06,689 --> 00:15:10,222
He has hostility toward women.
331
00:15:10,224 --> 00:15:12,359
Yep.
332
00:15:12,361 --> 00:15:15,796
I feel like he's capable
of harming someone.
333
00:15:35,646 --> 00:15:38,348
One of the first calls I
made was to a local author
334
00:15:38,350 --> 00:15:41,018
who knows Hanover's history
backwards and forwards.
335
00:15:41,020 --> 00:15:44,721
He told me the original settler
of Tom and Deanna's property
336
00:15:44,723 --> 00:15:47,158
was literally destroyed by the land.
337
00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,362
I'm heading over to meet with
him now to see what he means.
338
00:15:59,272 --> 00:16:02,739
The original settler was
a man named John Digges.
339
00:16:02,741 --> 00:16:07,947
He was an upper crust,
connected, well-to-do person
340
00:16:07,949 --> 00:16:10,082
from Maryland, owned
some plantations there.
341
00:16:10,084 --> 00:16:15,947
He was granted 10,000
acres of land in 1727.
342
00:16:15,949 --> 00:16:20,253
This whole 10,000 acres
was called Digges' Choice.
343
00:16:20,255 --> 00:16:22,887
Where on this map would
my clients' house be?
344
00:16:22,889 --> 00:16:25,257
Right here.
345
00:16:25,259 --> 00:16:26,925
Okay.
346
00:16:26,927 --> 00:16:30,196
He had a fairly sizable
plantation that he farmed,
347
00:16:30,198 --> 00:16:33,166
but he also wanted to
sell the rest of the land
348
00:16:33,168 --> 00:16:36,004
and make as much money
as he could off of it.
349
00:16:36,006 --> 00:16:38,675
The problem was, there were other settlers
350
00:16:38,677 --> 00:16:42,080
that were coming in along
the edges of this property
351
00:16:42,082 --> 00:16:44,182
instead of buying land from him.
352
00:16:44,184 --> 00:16:45,815
He didn't like that very much.
353
00:16:45,817 --> 00:16:47,650
Okay.
354
00:16:47,652 --> 00:16:50,119
So, sometimes, he would try
to make them pay for the land.
355
00:16:50,121 --> 00:16:52,853
Sometimes, he'd try to force them out.
356
00:16:52,855 --> 00:16:56,494
He and his sons would go out with guns
357
00:16:56,496 --> 00:16:58,597
- and try to run 'em off.
- Wow.
358
00:16:58,599 --> 00:17:01,366
- He was pretty ruthless...
- Okay.
359
00:17:01,368 --> 00:17:02,500
With the way he enforced it.
360
00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:13,049
I'm seeing the sniffy
guy when he was alive.
361
00:17:16,553 --> 00:17:18,557
Can you describe him?
362
00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:20,659
Uh...
363
00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:27,696
Power.
364
00:17:27,698 --> 00:17:30,235
I feel, like, judgment.
365
00:17:30,237 --> 00:17:37,778
Or he felt he could judge
and, um, control people.
366
00:17:37,780 --> 00:17:41,048
Yeah, I see him.
367
00:17:41,050 --> 00:17:43,985
I see him, I see him, I see an older man.
368
00:17:43,987 --> 00:17:49,587
He had this power to
control their destinies,
369
00:17:49,589 --> 00:17:52,323
and that's what he's still doing.
370
00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,862
And... and he says,
"I could smell it.
371
00:17:56,864 --> 00:17:58,265
I could smell it, and I
could taste it on them."
372
00:17:58,267 --> 00:17:59,368
Smell what?
373
00:17:59,370 --> 00:18:02,401
Oh, fear.
374
00:18:02,403 --> 00:18:03,770
He hates them.
375
00:18:03,772 --> 00:18:05,707
He [bleep] hates them.
376
00:18:08,037 --> 00:18:09,638
Now, Jan, you mentioned on the phone
377
00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,408
that the land basically destroyed Digges.
378
00:18:11,410 --> 00:18:12,644
What did you mean by that?
379
00:18:12,646 --> 00:18:16,712
Well, in 1752, Digges sent his two sons
380
00:18:16,714 --> 00:18:18,812
to intimidate one of the settlers,
381
00:18:18,814 --> 00:18:20,046
Martin Kitzmiller,
382
00:18:20,048 --> 00:18:23,653
that Digges felt was
trespassing, basically.
383
00:18:23,655 --> 00:18:27,823
So, Martin calls for a son
of his, his name was Jacob,
384
00:18:27,825 --> 00:18:29,291
to come help him.
385
00:18:29,293 --> 00:18:31,891
He came with a shotgun,
386
00:18:31,893 --> 00:18:35,493
and in a struggle between Dudley Digges,
387
00:18:35,495 --> 00:18:38,429
one of John's sons, and Jacob,
388
00:18:38,431 --> 00:18:40,096
the gun accidentally went off,
389
00:18:40,098 --> 00:18:42,698
and Dudley was shot and killed.
390
00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:44,000
Okay.
391
00:18:44,002 --> 00:18:47,138
Here's an article that
appeared in the "York" paper
392
00:18:47,140 --> 00:18:49,307
a couple of days after the shooting.
393
00:18:49,309 --> 00:18:52,442
Martin and Jacob Kitzmiller
394
00:18:52,444 --> 00:18:55,446
immediately turned
themselves in to authorities.
395
00:18:55,448 --> 00:18:58,148
There was a coroner's inquest and a trial,
396
00:18:58,150 --> 00:19:02,888
and basically, the trial
destroys John Digges.
397
00:19:02,890 --> 00:19:06,294
The two people that he
thought murdered his son
398
00:19:06,296 --> 00:19:07,462
are acquitted.
399
00:19:07,464 --> 00:19:08,762
They were acquitted?
400
00:19:08,764 --> 00:19:11,263
- Yes, it was considered accidental.
- Okay.
401
00:19:11,265 --> 00:19:13,232
And the judge ruled
402
00:19:13,234 --> 00:19:15,634
that most of this land wasn't even his.
403
00:19:15,636 --> 00:19:18,134
Wow. Added insult to injury.
404
00:19:18,136 --> 00:19:19,902
It... it
breaks him.
405
00:19:19,904 --> 00:19:22,405
So, now, what happens
with... with Digges?
406
00:19:22,407 --> 00:19:26,410
He moves shortly after
the murder to Maryland,
407
00:19:26,412 --> 00:19:30,914
pretty much broke, and dies in 1760.
408
00:19:30,916 --> 00:19:32,985
Do we know where he's buried at all?
409
00:19:32,987 --> 00:19:35,020
All we know is he died in Maryland.
410
00:19:35,022 --> 00:19:38,594
Okay. Now, do we know
where Dudley's buried?
411
00:19:38,596 --> 00:19:41,930
Yes, he's buried on the
property, Digges' Choice.
412
00:19:49,268 --> 00:19:52,168
It's one person alone in here.
413
00:19:53,538 --> 00:19:56,907
Buried. He's buried very
close, very, very close.
414
00:20:09,220 --> 00:20:11,290
I'm seeing blood.
415
00:20:11,292 --> 00:20:14,363
Where?
416
00:20:14,365 --> 00:20:16,029
On the walls.
417
00:20:20,168 --> 00:20:23,069
It's making me anxious.
It's making me anxious.
418
00:20:23,071 --> 00:20:25,171
Uh...
419
00:20:25,173 --> 00:20:28,672
I feel trapped. I feel scared.
420
00:20:28,674 --> 00:20:30,072
I feel like I can't breathe.
421
00:20:30,074 --> 00:20:32,007
I feel like I'm choking on my tongue.
422
00:20:34,209 --> 00:20:35,940
I'm seeing the blood on the walls.
423
00:20:38,377 --> 00:20:40,776
I'm seeing the blood on the walls.
424
00:20:55,237 --> 00:20:56,906
STEVE: So far, I've got a family
425
00:20:56,908 --> 00:20:59,079
that's being terrorized
by unexplained activity
426
00:20:59,081 --> 00:21:03,188
in a property that's been
the cause of bloodshed.
427
00:21:04,191 --> 00:21:06,294
But I need to see if there's anything else.
428
00:21:06,296 --> 00:21:08,232
Searching through old property records,
429
00:21:08,234 --> 00:21:09,514
I find a woman named Lydia Small,
430
00:21:09,614 --> 00:21:11,745
who used to live on my clients' land.
431
00:21:11,747 --> 00:21:14,683
Turns out, she lost four
children to drowning accidents,
432
00:21:14,685 --> 00:21:18,220
three of them in the same quarry.
433
00:21:18,222 --> 00:21:21,522
I'm heading over to meet
with a local genealogist
434
00:21:21,524 --> 00:21:24,958
who says Lydia Small's
suffering on my clients' property
435
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,127
didn't even end there.
436
00:21:34,502 --> 00:21:36,036
Well, Stephanie, thanks for meeting me.
437
00:21:36,038 --> 00:21:39,004
I came across these articles
about this woman, Lydia,
438
00:21:39,006 --> 00:21:39,846
who lost four kids to drowning.
439
00:21:40,246 --> 00:21:43,577
Yes, yes, she did. The
first one was in 1890.
440
00:21:43,677 --> 00:21:47,146
It was her daughter, who
was, um, a year and a half.
441
00:21:47,148 --> 00:21:49,981
They had had a well in the backyard.
442
00:21:49,983 --> 00:21:53,386
The little girl wandered out
and fell down into the well.
443
00:21:53,388 --> 00:21:55,521
That was the first of the four.
444
00:21:55,523 --> 00:21:57,221
The second incident, sadly,
445
00:21:57,223 --> 00:21:59,455
involved two of Lydia's children.
446
00:21:59,457 --> 00:22:01,221
Her 4-year-old
son, Dewey,
447
00:22:01,223 --> 00:22:04,486
and her 7-year-old daughter,
Florence, were playing
448
00:22:04,488 --> 00:22:06,688
down by the edge of the quarry.
449
00:22:06,690 --> 00:22:07,921
Dewey fell in.
450
00:22:07,923 --> 00:22:11,024
Their older sister, Irene, who was 12,
451
00:22:11,026 --> 00:22:12,593
jumped in to try to save him,
452
00:22:12,595 --> 00:22:14,427
and both of those children drowned.
453
00:22:14,429 --> 00:22:15,827
All right.
454
00:22:15,829 --> 00:22:18,495
So, that's three drownings,
but what was the fourth one?
455
00:22:18,497 --> 00:22:20,396
The fourth one was Florence.
456
00:22:20,398 --> 00:22:23,565
She and her mother were
along the edge of the quarry,
457
00:22:23,567 --> 00:22:25,667
once again, picking raspberries,
458
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:29,300
and Florence, too, had
fallen into the quarry
459
00:22:29,302 --> 00:22:31,866
and unfortunately drowned.
460
00:22:31,868 --> 00:22:33,066
So, let me get this straight.
461
00:22:33,068 --> 00:22:34,966
She loses three kids to
drowning, two in the quarry,
462
00:22:34,968 --> 00:22:37,167
- and she takes another kid near it.
- Yes.
463
00:22:37,169 --> 00:22:39,437
So now, you mentioned on the phone
464
00:22:39,439 --> 00:22:42,774
that she had a lot worse
tragedy in her life.
465
00:22:42,776 --> 00:22:45,307
The drownings of her four
children were just the start.
466
00:22:45,309 --> 00:22:48,279
In 1907, she had a son.
467
00:22:48,281 --> 00:22:49,682
His name was John Jacob,
468
00:22:49,684 --> 00:22:53,055
and he died of what was at
the time called convulsions.
469
00:22:53,057 --> 00:22:55,324
And then sadly, shortly thereafter,
470
00:22:55,326 --> 00:22:57,326
she lost her husband, as well.
471
00:22:57,328 --> 00:22:59,128
He worked at the quarry
472
00:22:59,130 --> 00:23:01,530
and was actually crushed to death
473
00:23:01,532 --> 00:23:04,400
when a cable car full of bricks came back
474
00:23:04,402 --> 00:23:06,735
and fell on him and crushed him.
475
00:23:06,737 --> 00:23:09,035
So now, after all this
tragedy with this woman,
476
00:23:09,037 --> 00:23:10,669
what ended up happening to her?
477
00:23:10,671 --> 00:23:15,736
Well, on April 18th of 1939,
Lydia herself passed away.
478
00:23:15,738 --> 00:23:19,472
This is the notice that
appeared in the newspaper.
479
00:23:19,474 --> 00:23:21,910
She just wore out after
dealing with the loss
480
00:23:21,912 --> 00:23:24,677
and the hardship that she'd
suffered all those years.
481
00:23:24,679 --> 00:23:26,778
Her body just eventually gave out.
482
00:23:30,616 --> 00:23:33,984
There's a woman that's,
like, really losing it,
483
00:23:33,986 --> 00:23:35,653
like, losing her [bleep]
484
00:23:37,155 --> 00:23:38,820
Uh, she's just always, like, crying,
485
00:23:38,822 --> 00:23:41,255
and then I see a casket coming out.
486
00:23:41,257 --> 00:23:44,158
I see a casket coming out,
and then I see this woman...
487
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,828
Just a mess.
488
00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:51,032
It's almost like she goes into denial.
489
00:23:51,034 --> 00:23:53,969
"That... that didn't happen.
It didn't happen, no."
490
00:24:01,507 --> 00:24:04,643
I think there's a lot
of things that happened
491
00:24:04,645 --> 00:24:06,645
one right after the other here.
492
00:24:06,647 --> 00:24:09,182
I think she lost somebody.
493
00:24:09,184 --> 00:24:11,451
I think she gets sick.
494
00:24:13,454 --> 00:24:18,094
It's like she might have made herself sick
495
00:24:18,096 --> 00:24:21,996
from not getting over everything.
496
00:24:21,998 --> 00:24:25,032
I feel, like, this illness in her body,
497
00:24:25,034 --> 00:24:27,398
like her stomach is affected.
498
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,500
She wastes away, but I don't know
499
00:24:29,502 --> 00:24:32,802
if that's, like, from her emotional loss.
500
00:24:32,804 --> 00:24:34,270
Right.
501
00:24:34,272 --> 00:24:37,807
Because I feel this extreme
anger and this extreme sadness.
502
00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:50,283
I encountered many entities during my walk,
503
00:24:50,285 --> 00:24:53,054
but two stood out the most.
504
00:24:53,056 --> 00:24:55,592
First, the crying woman.
505
00:24:55,594 --> 00:24:59,190
You could see more of
the whites at the bottom.
506
00:24:59,192 --> 00:25:01,725
A very high forehead.
507
00:25:03,291 --> 00:25:07,391
Thicker here, and then,
they taper off pretty thin.
508
00:25:08,526 --> 00:25:10,727
Next, I described the creepy man
509
00:25:10,729 --> 00:25:13,030
tormenting a living woman in her bedroom.
510
00:25:13,032 --> 00:25:15,329
The bed sits catty-corner.
511
00:25:15,331 --> 00:25:20,101
This male comes out, but
it's like smoke, mist.
512
00:25:22,005 --> 00:25:25,008
He is leaning over her.
513
00:25:25,010 --> 00:25:28,879
It's very strange looking,
very creepy looking.
514
00:25:30,116 --> 00:25:31,150
Is that what you saw?
515
00:25:31,152 --> 00:25:33,986
Yes, that's what I saw.
516
00:25:56,361 --> 00:25:59,047
STEVE: Now that Amy and I have
completed our investigations,
517
00:25:59,147 --> 00:26:01,845
we're ready to reveal
our findings to each other
518
00:26:01,847 --> 00:26:03,944
and our clients for the first time.
519
00:26:03,946 --> 00:26:06,345
Amy, I'd like you to meet Deanna and Tom.
520
00:26:06,347 --> 00:26:08,081
They're married. They live in this house.
521
00:26:08,083 --> 00:26:10,214
They've been living
through hell, basically.
522
00:26:10,216 --> 00:26:12,518
In the last few years,
it's gotten real physical.
523
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,753
It's affecting their health
524
00:26:13,755 --> 00:26:15,455
and, actually, their
marriage at this point,
525
00:26:15,457 --> 00:26:17,356
and that's why they called us in for help.
526
00:26:18,725 --> 00:26:20,254
So, now that Amy knows just a little bit
527
00:26:20,354 --> 00:26:21,553
about what's going on,
528
00:26:21,555 --> 00:26:23,354
I'm gonna ask her to
tell us about her walk.
529
00:26:23,356 --> 00:26:24,739
One of the things that I got
530
00:26:24,839 --> 00:26:27,741
when I first came into the home
531
00:26:27,743 --> 00:26:34,680
was that this house is
extremely unsafe for women.
532
00:26:34,682 --> 00:26:41,723
Women in this area have been
affected for a very long time,
533
00:26:41,725 --> 00:26:45,025
and bad things will happen.
534
00:26:45,027 --> 00:26:49,364
And then, I saw a lot of
dead women who are suffering.
535
00:26:49,366 --> 00:26:51,399
But the one that stood out the most to me
536
00:26:51,401 --> 00:26:54,069
was freaking out, crying.
537
00:26:54,071 --> 00:26:58,207
She was, like, yelling a
lot, and then the door opened,
538
00:26:58,209 --> 00:27:02,612
and a casket came out of the front door.
539
00:27:02,614 --> 00:27:06,248
What I gathered from her
freaking out and yelling
540
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:09,953
was that, whoever that
person was who died, she felt,
541
00:27:09,955 --> 00:27:13,020
you know, it was... it
was extremely sudden.
542
00:27:13,022 --> 00:27:15,756
So, I felt, in the end,
543
00:27:15,758 --> 00:27:21,463
she became sick from not
dealing with this death.
544
00:27:21,465 --> 00:27:23,798
There was a woman that
lived on your property line.
545
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,801
Her name was Lydia Small.
546
00:27:25,803 --> 00:27:30,367
This is a stack of articles
regarding her loss in life.
547
00:27:30,369 --> 00:27:32,466
What?!
548
00:27:32,468 --> 00:27:34,167
TOM: She lived here?
549
00:27:34,169 --> 00:27:35,601
She lived on the property line.
550
00:27:35,603 --> 00:27:37,938
1890, she had a daughter, 20 months old,
551
00:27:37,940 --> 00:27:39,140
I think the kid was,
552
00:27:39,142 --> 00:27:41,374
drowned in the well right on the property.
553
00:27:41,376 --> 00:27:45,543
1902, her 4-year-old
son, Dewey,
554
00:27:45,545 --> 00:27:48,279
and her 7-year-old
daughter, Florence,
555
00:27:48,281 --> 00:27:50,950
were playing by the quarry, swimming.
556
00:27:50,952 --> 00:27:52,583
Dewey goes under.
557
00:27:52,585 --> 00:27:55,484
The 12-year-old sister,
Irene, jumps into the water
558
00:27:55,486 --> 00:27:57,816
to rescue her brother, and she drowned.
559
00:27:57,818 --> 00:27:58,816
Oh, my gosh.
560
00:27:58,818 --> 00:28:00,049
They find their two bodies later on.
561
00:28:00,051 --> 00:28:01,850
So, now, she lost three kids to drowning.
562
00:28:01,852 --> 00:28:03,384
Oh, my gosh.
563
00:28:03,386 --> 00:28:05,085
It gets worse.
564
00:28:05,087 --> 00:28:06,917
1905, the kid, Florence,
565
00:28:06,919 --> 00:28:08,986
was picking berries right by the quarry.
566
00:28:08,988 --> 00:28:11,353
She falls in. She drowns.
567
00:28:11,355 --> 00:28:14,690
So, that's four kids died of drowning.
568
00:28:14,692 --> 00:28:16,359
Let's move over to 1907.
569
00:28:16,361 --> 00:28:19,425
Now she loses an
18-month-old to convulsions,
570
00:28:19,427 --> 00:28:21,896
probably from a high fever, I would assume.
571
00:28:21,898 --> 00:28:24,763
The year after this happens,
her husband, Jeremiah,
572
00:28:24,765 --> 00:28:29,869
who worked at the quarry
sending limestone rock
573
00:28:29,871 --> 00:28:31,337
up to the top of the quarry.
574
00:28:31,339 --> 00:28:34,171
Well, the cable snapped and
came down and crushed him.
575
00:28:34,173 --> 00:28:36,340
Oh, my gosh.
576
00:28:36,342 --> 00:28:39,008
Now, the whole tragedy with
Lydia and what she went through,
577
00:28:39,010 --> 00:28:40,576
she winds up dying in 1939,
578
00:28:40,578 --> 00:28:44,048
and I think the whole thing just
took a toll on her and she...
579
00:28:44,050 --> 00:28:46,586
Her body just deteriorated down to nothing.
580
00:28:46,588 --> 00:28:47,719
It's pretty sad.
581
00:28:49,823 --> 00:28:51,491
Now, you see a woman, right?
582
00:28:51,493 --> 00:28:52,561
DEANNA: Yes.
583
00:28:52,563 --> 00:28:57,062
This woman is, just like you said,
584
00:28:57,064 --> 00:29:04,771
just like I told you, very thin, sickly.
585
00:29:04,773 --> 00:29:06,439
So, do you think this is the woman you saw?
586
00:29:06,441 --> 00:29:08,840
I don't know, uh, but I did do a sketch.
587
00:29:23,223 --> 00:29:26,058
Wow.
588
00:29:26,060 --> 00:29:27,492
That's her.
589
00:29:30,926 --> 00:29:32,360
That's who I see.
590
00:29:35,629 --> 00:29:36,629
Ooh.
591
00:29:36,631 --> 00:29:39,669
It's all coming together.
592
00:29:39,671 --> 00:29:44,104
I would tell Tom of my stories,
593
00:29:44,106 --> 00:29:46,405
and I'm sharing with him.
594
00:29:46,407 --> 00:29:47,439
He's trying to connect to me.
595
00:29:47,441 --> 00:29:49,540
Right.
596
00:29:49,542 --> 00:29:51,475
- But he can't.
- Right.
597
00:29:51,477 --> 00:29:55,614
It's not affecting him like it is me.
598
00:29:55,616 --> 00:29:59,151
It justifies what I've been going through,
599
00:29:59,153 --> 00:30:00,888
hell, all this time.
600
00:30:00,890 --> 00:30:02,390
And how do you feel about it?
601
00:30:02,392 --> 00:30:05,761
I don't know how to answer that.
602
00:30:05,763 --> 00:30:08,466
It's putting a face to things she tells me,
603
00:30:08,468 --> 00:30:09,936
but I don't relate to it
604
00:30:09,938 --> 00:30:12,104
because it doesn't affect me, personally.
605
00:30:12,106 --> 00:30:13,703
It affects her.
606
00:30:13,705 --> 00:30:14,871
It makes me feel bad for that woman.
607
00:30:19,011 --> 00:30:20,778
STEVE: What else you see?
608
00:30:20,780 --> 00:30:23,278
I started walking down the stairs,
609
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,248
and in front of me, there was a male.
610
00:30:26,250 --> 00:30:30,785
And what I saw was, he was
beating up a teenage girl.
611
00:30:30,787 --> 00:30:35,589
This man had and has a lot of issues
612
00:30:35,591 --> 00:30:38,391
and anger, uh, towards and with women.
613
00:30:38,393 --> 00:30:40,092
You can hear this guy.
614
00:30:40,094 --> 00:30:44,161
You'll hear, like, him, like,
stomping around down here
615
00:30:44,163 --> 00:30:47,600
or, like, causing a
ruckus, like, yelling...
616
00:30:47,602 --> 00:30:50,202
And he shows himself like a black mist,
617
00:30:50,204 --> 00:30:51,669
uh, smoke.
618
00:30:51,671 --> 00:30:53,070
Oh, my God.
619
00:30:53,072 --> 00:30:56,109
And I was upstairs,
620
00:30:56,111 --> 00:31:00,513
and I smelled this horrible stench,
621
00:31:00,515 --> 00:31:04,921
and it was him.
622
00:31:04,923 --> 00:31:08,659
We see this big, black
mist coming from the wall,
623
00:31:08,661 --> 00:31:10,697
and then, in matter of seconds,
624
00:31:10,699 --> 00:31:13,098
it turned into, like, a tornado, like,
625
00:31:13,100 --> 00:31:15,198
and went straight up into the ceiling.
626
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,570
Matter of fact, there's still a mark there
627
00:31:17,572 --> 00:31:19,573
from where it went into the ceiling.
628
00:31:19,575 --> 00:31:20,773
Yes.
629
00:31:20,775 --> 00:31:23,208
Now, you also mentioned
to me about the smells.
630
00:31:23,210 --> 00:31:24,510
I smell, like, either...
631
00:31:24,512 --> 00:31:26,881
smells of urine sometimes, sometimes fecal,
632
00:31:26,883 --> 00:31:29,117
and sometimes, I get kerosene.
633
00:31:29,119 --> 00:31:31,822
Yeah. It's pretty nasty, yeah.
634
00:31:31,824 --> 00:31:35,390
Well, you've seen a
lot on your walk so far.
635
00:31:35,392 --> 00:31:37,657
- Anything else go on?
- Yes.
636
00:31:37,659 --> 00:31:40,559
The person who was in the basement
637
00:31:40,561 --> 00:31:44,163
is not the main culprit here.
638
00:31:44,165 --> 00:31:45,564
Wow.
639
00:31:45,566 --> 00:31:48,633
It was actually an individual
I met on the first floor,
640
00:31:48,635 --> 00:31:51,802
a male, and what he does is,
641
00:31:51,804 --> 00:31:55,709
he literally crawls up out of the grave.
642
00:31:55,711 --> 00:31:59,814
He is extremely creepy.
643
00:31:59,816 --> 00:32:03,953
He sniffed all the way up my back,
644
00:32:03,955 --> 00:32:10,395
and it just was really disgusting,
645
00:32:10,397 --> 00:32:13,062
horrifying, degrading.
646
00:32:13,064 --> 00:32:14,998
And I was scared,
647
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,705
and that's really unusual for me.
648
00:32:17,707 --> 00:32:22,340
He really hates women, and what he told me
649
00:32:22,342 --> 00:32:25,007
when, ugh, he got up to my ear was,
650
00:32:25,009 --> 00:32:27,473
he was like, "I can taste
it, and I can smell it."
651
00:32:27,475 --> 00:32:32,509
When I started going
up to the room upstairs,
652
00:32:32,511 --> 00:32:34,714
I felt someone pushing me back,
653
00:32:34,716 --> 00:32:38,019
holding me back at the
bottom of the stairs,
654
00:32:38,021 --> 00:32:40,856
like, a wall going up and,
like, two hands coming out
655
00:32:40,858 --> 00:32:42,660
and pushing me and being like,
656
00:32:42,662 --> 00:32:44,760
"Oh, no, you are not coming up here."
657
00:32:44,762 --> 00:32:46,996
Well, that's one of the
big reasons we're here.
658
00:32:46,998 --> 00:32:48,933
Deanna, tell Amy what happened to you.
659
00:32:48,935 --> 00:32:51,536
One night, I was going
up the steps to go to bed,
660
00:32:51,538 --> 00:32:53,571
and I was walking up the steps,
661
00:32:53,573 --> 00:32:56,676
I just stopped because I felt him.
662
00:32:56,678 --> 00:32:58,043
It was ferocious,
663
00:32:58,045 --> 00:33:01,013
and he just came up with such a force,
664
00:33:01,015 --> 00:33:02,582
and just went vroom,
665
00:33:02,584 --> 00:33:07,619
and I flew off the steps
and skid into the kitchen.
666
00:33:07,621 --> 00:33:09,854
She had a fractured tailbone.
667
00:33:09,856 --> 00:33:11,322
Oh, wow.
668
00:33:11,324 --> 00:33:13,524
She actually moved into
the downstairs bedroom...
669
00:33:13,526 --> 00:33:15,626
Yes...'cause she's afraid
to go upstairs and go to sleep.
670
00:33:15,628 --> 00:33:17,095
Really?
671
00:33:17,097 --> 00:33:18,964
Because I did see a woman
672
00:33:18,966 --> 00:33:21,434
who was going from bedroom to bedroom,
673
00:33:21,436 --> 00:33:24,635
trying to get away from him,
674
00:33:24,637 --> 00:33:28,577
and one of the things that I
heard him saying to her was,
675
00:33:28,579 --> 00:33:29,811
"I've got you.
676
00:33:29,813 --> 00:33:32,515
You're mine. There's no escape."
677
00:33:32,517 --> 00:33:37,522
I know he can manipulate the way he's seen.
678
00:33:37,524 --> 00:33:41,224
I saw him at one point coming out as a mist
679
00:33:41,226 --> 00:33:42,926
from under the bed,
680
00:33:42,928 --> 00:33:44,896
coming up to the side of the bed.
681
00:33:44,898 --> 00:33:47,065
There was a female laying in the bed.
682
00:33:47,067 --> 00:33:51,301
He then took on this form
that I saw him with the hat,
683
00:33:51,303 --> 00:33:54,839
and he was pushing down on her shoulders,
684
00:33:54,841 --> 00:33:59,545
and he was saying, uh,
you know, "I've got you.
685
00:33:59,547 --> 00:34:02,750
I smell you. I taste you. I know you."
686
00:34:02,752 --> 00:34:06,520
The impression I got was that
the living woman in the bed
687
00:34:06,522 --> 00:34:08,519
thinks that she's having dreams,
688
00:34:08,521 --> 00:34:10,156
but it's actually happening.
689
00:34:10,158 --> 00:34:12,796
Oh, my God, Amy.
690
00:34:12,798 --> 00:34:15,401
In that bedroom, just like you said,
691
00:34:15,403 --> 00:34:18,638
I was having a dream,
and I'm in a cemetery.
692
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:22,977
And five monks levitating, hooded,
693
00:34:22,979 --> 00:34:26,449
they come before me, and then they stop.
694
00:34:26,451 --> 00:34:33,830
But this man shot up, huge,
masculine, hat, red eyes.
695
00:34:33,832 --> 00:34:36,630
I felt him just jump right on me,
696
00:34:36,632 --> 00:34:39,601
held me down, and then
when I opened up my eyes,
697
00:34:39,603 --> 00:34:43,772
he's standing right
there, just looking at me.
698
00:34:43,774 --> 00:34:47,910
And he told me that nobody
can help me now, I was his.
699
00:34:50,982 --> 00:34:52,752
I did do a sketch of what I saw.
700
00:34:52,754 --> 00:34:54,585
[ Sighs ]
701
00:34:57,423 --> 00:34:58,323
Ooh.
702
00:34:58,325 --> 00:35:00,194
[ Sighs ]
703
00:35:03,428 --> 00:35:05,765
[ Sighs ]
704
00:35:08,367 --> 00:35:11,772
Yeah. That's him.
705
00:35:11,774 --> 00:35:13,441
Amy, that's him.
706
00:35:32,512 --> 00:35:34,511
I did do a sketch of what I saw.
707
00:35:34,513 --> 00:35:36,345
[ Sighs ]
708
00:35:39,185 --> 00:35:40,084
Ooh.
709
00:35:40,086 --> 00:35:41,919
[ Sighs ]
710
00:35:45,191 --> 00:35:47,525
[ Sighs ]
711
00:35:50,130 --> 00:35:53,532
Yeah. That's him.
712
00:35:53,534 --> 00:35:55,434
Amy, that's him.
713
00:35:58,105 --> 00:36:00,171
That's him.
714
00:36:01,374 --> 00:36:04,175
Oh, my God, Tom.
715
00:36:04,177 --> 00:36:05,776
That's the man I told you about.
716
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,948
Oh, my God. I can't believe it.
717
00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:14,519
Then, when he's got a hold on you, Amy,
718
00:36:14,521 --> 00:36:19,325
he doesn't let you go until he decides.
719
00:36:19,327 --> 00:36:21,562
There's no begging. There's no pleading.
720
00:36:21,564 --> 00:36:24,397
The more upset I get,
721
00:36:24,399 --> 00:36:26,698
the more he's enjoying
the cat and mouse game.
722
00:36:26,700 --> 00:36:29,266
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Yeah, that's how he operates.
723
00:36:31,937 --> 00:36:35,006
Now, she wakes up in the morning,
724
00:36:35,008 --> 00:36:36,207
she's got bruises, scratches...
725
00:36:36,209 --> 00:36:40,510
Matter of fact, here's
some of the scratches
726
00:36:40,512 --> 00:36:41,510
we're talking about.
727
00:36:43,176 --> 00:36:46,012
Oh, wow.
728
00:36:48,182 --> 00:36:50,515
Now, is this thing capable of causing this?
729
00:36:50,517 --> 00:36:52,049
Sure, yes. Oh, yes.
730
00:36:57,054 --> 00:36:59,156
- This guy was alive at one time?
- Yes.
731
00:36:59,158 --> 00:37:01,259
Do you know anything about
him or who he might be or...
732
00:37:01,261 --> 00:37:04,565
Yeah. He was probably
about in his 60s or 70s.
733
00:37:04,567 --> 00:37:07,839
He was absolutely in a power position
734
00:37:07,841 --> 00:37:11,911
where he was able to judge others
735
00:37:11,913 --> 00:37:14,514
and had the power to control,
like, their destinies.
736
00:37:14,516 --> 00:37:18,387
He did terrible things throughout his life.
737
00:37:18,389 --> 00:37:20,926
He is attached to the property,
738
00:37:20,928 --> 00:37:24,295
and I think where I saw him
coming up out of the grave
739
00:37:24,297 --> 00:37:25,631
is relatively close.
740
00:37:25,633 --> 00:37:30,399
He was buried near here.
741
00:37:32,568 --> 00:37:35,167
Well, I got to think about
this one a little bit,
742
00:37:35,169 --> 00:37:38,066
but the original guy that owned
the place was a wealthy guy.
743
00:37:38,068 --> 00:37:41,032
Um, his name was John Digges.
744
00:37:41,034 --> 00:37:43,269
As a matter of fact, I have a map here
745
00:37:43,271 --> 00:37:45,502
which was originally called Digges' Choice.
746
00:37:45,504 --> 00:37:46,868
Now, this is 10,000 acres here.
747
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:47,937
Oh, my goodness.
748
00:37:47,939 --> 00:37:51,443
Your property is right about here.
749
00:37:51,445 --> 00:37:55,180
It goes back to the early 1700s.
750
00:37:55,182 --> 00:37:58,815
This guy was granted
this... this land.
751
00:37:58,817 --> 00:38:02,986
So, he was a powerful guy and ruthless,
752
00:38:02,988 --> 00:38:04,553
you know, in the way he did his business.
753
00:38:04,555 --> 00:38:07,956
When people tried to encroach
on his property and settle,
754
00:38:07,958 --> 00:38:11,593
he forcibly either removed them
from his property at gunpoint,
755
00:38:11,595 --> 00:38:13,598
or he made them pay.
756
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:18,171
Later on, in 1752, there was
a family called Kitzmillers
757
00:38:18,173 --> 00:38:19,742
that landed on the property,
758
00:38:19,744 --> 00:38:22,646
and he sent his son, Dudley, to
try to intimidate these people.
759
00:38:22,648 --> 00:38:24,416
And a fight ensued over a gun,
760
00:38:24,418 --> 00:38:26,485
and the son, Dudley, was shot and killed.
761
00:38:26,487 --> 00:38:31,155
So, for John Digges,
after his son gets killed,
762
00:38:31,157 --> 00:38:33,258
uh, basically, things go from bad to worse.
763
00:38:33,260 --> 00:38:35,995
Once this case goes to court,
764
00:38:35,997 --> 00:38:40,099
the judge acquits the
Kitzmiller kid for the murder,
765
00:38:40,101 --> 00:38:43,467
and then tells John Digges, "Guess what,
766
00:38:43,469 --> 00:38:45,137
most of this land here is not yours,"
767
00:38:45,139 --> 00:38:46,804
and winds up taking it away from him.
768
00:38:46,806 --> 00:38:50,538
He ended up broken and broke, basically.
769
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:52,306
Now, we don't know where he's buried,
770
00:38:52,308 --> 00:38:54,742
but I know the son, Dudley,
was buried on the property.
771
00:38:54,744 --> 00:38:56,743
Yeah, that is interesting. Okay.
772
00:38:58,813 --> 00:39:00,315
So, what does he want?
773
00:39:00,317 --> 00:39:05,454
His one main goal is to
go after the women here.
774
00:39:05,456 --> 00:39:08,159
He said, "I'll go after their kids.
775
00:39:08,161 --> 00:39:10,263
- I'll go after their husbands."
- Hmm.
776
00:39:12,266 --> 00:39:16,572
He likes to, like, drive
them to, basically, madness.
777
00:39:17,974 --> 00:39:23,983
The end goal is to actually have a death.
778
00:39:23,985 --> 00:39:26,552
Oh, my gosh.
779
00:39:28,751 --> 00:39:31,221
So, this Lydia Small thing,
with all these kids that died,
780
00:39:31,223 --> 00:39:33,827
I mean, do you think this thing
had anything to do with that?
781
00:39:33,829 --> 00:39:36,695
Yes. I think so, mm-hmm.
782
00:39:36,697 --> 00:39:38,296
Is he trying to kill her?
783
00:39:41,033 --> 00:39:42,498
Yes.
784
00:39:51,842 --> 00:39:53,643
For years, you guys have been in a fight
785
00:39:53,645 --> 00:39:55,879
against something you can't
even see, but, you know,
786
00:39:55,881 --> 00:39:57,714
after our investigation,
at least now you know
787
00:39:57,716 --> 00:39:59,149
who and what you're up against.
788
00:39:59,151 --> 00:40:02,320
But we still haven't
answered your big question...
789
00:40:02,322 --> 00:40:04,554
Is this a fight you guys can win?
790
00:40:04,556 --> 00:40:06,457
For that answer, I'm
gonna turn it over to Amy.
791
00:40:11,931 --> 00:40:14,065
So, the first thing that needs to happen
792
00:40:14,067 --> 00:40:18,039
is a male witch who's also a medium
793
00:40:18,041 --> 00:40:20,173
needs to be called in here.
794
00:40:20,175 --> 00:40:24,277
This person needs to be
a very dominant male type,
795
00:40:24,279 --> 00:40:25,580
the bigger, the better.
796
00:40:27,384 --> 00:40:29,254
Why does he have to be physically big?
797
00:40:29,256 --> 00:40:36,001
Because he's intimidated
by males who are masculine.
798
00:40:38,168 --> 00:40:41,606
So, day one, this witch needs to come in,
799
00:40:41,608 --> 00:40:45,913
and he needs to call all
of the dead women to him.
800
00:40:45,915 --> 00:40:50,287
And then, he and these dead women
801
00:40:50,289 --> 00:40:55,461
are going to summon the evil dead male.
802
00:40:55,463 --> 00:40:57,798
You cannot be here.
803
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:03,037
They are going to put him
where needs to be forever,
804
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:06,506
where he can do no more
harm to anyone ever again.
805
00:41:09,476 --> 00:41:12,911
Day two, he needs to then
806
00:41:12,913 --> 00:41:18,283
assist any of the females
that are dead who want to go.
807
00:41:18,285 --> 00:41:22,555
He's going to assist them
to make that transition.
808
00:41:22,557 --> 00:41:26,393
Day three, he now needs to come down here
809
00:41:26,395 --> 00:41:29,833
and get rid of this
individual in your basement.
810
00:41:29,835 --> 00:41:32,933
Does that banish him just from
here or from the whole area?
811
00:41:32,935 --> 00:41:34,837
Oh, it'll get rid of
him from the whole area.
812
00:41:34,839 --> 00:41:36,206
Yes!
813
00:41:36,208 --> 00:41:38,142
It's a little bit better
news than I was expecting,
814
00:41:38,144 --> 00:41:39,177
to be honest with you.
815
00:41:39,179 --> 00:41:40,380
TOM: I feel a lot better,
816
00:41:40,382 --> 00:41:42,349
because it sounds like
a solution's in order.
817
00:41:42,351 --> 00:41:44,187
Oh, relieved.
818
00:41:44,189 --> 00:41:45,389
Are you gonna take Amy's advice?
819
00:41:45,391 --> 00:41:47,056
Yes.
820
00:41:47,058 --> 00:41:49,889
Okay. Absolutely, starting tonight.
821
00:41:49,891 --> 00:41:50,824
Absolutely.
822
00:41:53,097 --> 00:41:55,461
AMY: I really hope Deanna
and Tom follow my advice
823
00:41:55,463 --> 00:41:57,962
and rid their home of the
evil that's tormenting them.
824
00:41:57,964 --> 00:42:01,301
I'm worried that if they
don't deal with it immediately,
825
00:42:01,303 --> 00:42:04,136
their suffering could continue,
and they might never find peace.
826
00:42:04,186 --> 00:42:08,736
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