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My mother was Ingrid Bergman.
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She was a big Hollywood star
in the '40s.
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And right after the war, she went to
Europe to entertain the troops
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and, when she stopped in Paris,
she met Robert Capa,
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who had been the great photographer
of the Second World War.
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They met at the Ritz Hotel and
they liked each other immensely.
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And then, eventually, they fell in
love.
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And then he ran into her again
in Berlin a few weeks later.
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They were really in love.
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At least, she was definitely
in love,
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because she wrote about it
in her memoirs.
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And this is how I came to
know about it.
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Mamma gave me the manuscript before
the book was published.
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And I read, and I was completely
surprised.
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And I said, you had an affair with
Robert Capa!
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That was my hero!
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Capa was hoping to get into the
movies himself.
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And she went to Hollywood to do a
film with Alfred Hitchcock.
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And Capa went along.
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Back in Hollywood, Ingrid Bergman
was still a married woman,
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and a scandal could ruin her career.
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A shoot for Life magazine gave
Robert Capa a pretext to join her
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discreetly on the set of Notorious.
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This first series of on-set photos
taken by a photographer in love with
an actress
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perfectly illustrate the close ties
that bind Magnum photographers
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and the world of cinema.
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From the day it was created in 1947,
Magnum Photos made history.
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Founded by Robert Capa,
David Seymour...
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..George Rodger and
Henri Cartier-Bresson,
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it was the first agency to assert
the independence of photographers
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and to fight to protect
their rights.
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Today, Magnum has about 70 active
members
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that include some of the most
famous names in photography.
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In these boxes are some of history's
most iconic images -
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printed proof of photojournalism's
commitment to observing the world.
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But there are also pictures that
have come to define cinema...
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..pictures taken by a handful of
photographers occasionally stopping
off on
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a film set as they travelled between
war zones.
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It was chance in the person of
Robert Capa that brought these two
worlds together.
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Capa was born in Budapest and then
studied in Germany
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and then came to Paris in 1933.
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And during that time,
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I think film and cinema played a
very important role
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in the imagination of what he could
potentially aspire to do.
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In some of the early letters he
writes to his mother from Paris,
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he talks about being a film-maker
some day,
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"One day, I will be great and big."
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Throughout Robert Capa's life,
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cinema provided an imaginative
escape from reality
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and his reputation as a war
photographer.
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Ernest Hemingway, who had met Robert
Capa during the Spanish Civil War,
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first opened the doors to Hollywood.
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He went to Sun Valley to visit
Hemingway in 1940 and then 1941.
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And he met various Hollywood
celebrities -
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Gary Cooper and Howard Hawks there.
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You know, he was an incredibly
playful, joyful character in person.
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He could charm anyone -
men as well as women,
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directors and businesspeople.
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He usually got his way.
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In 1941,
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the attack on Pearl Harbor hastened
the US entry into the war, and Capa
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was finally able to travel to
Europe.
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Throughout the war, Capa extended
his circle of Hollywood friends,
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often around a poker table.
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Capa, of course,
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had this close relationship with a
lot of the film directors who were
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in the American army.
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Or at least attached to the army,
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as Robert Capa was attached to
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the army while not being in it.
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FROM FRENCH:
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He is thinking about a cinemagraphic
visual experience
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in much of his work. I'm thinking
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particularly in North Africa, where
there's a plane landing on a strip.
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It's all barren,
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and there's one man waiting for the
plane to arrive.
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It's really just out of a Hitchcock
film.
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And then other scenes of the desert,
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of these camels rushing for him.
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I mean, again, Lawrence Of Arabia.
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He had a visual sense for the
dramatic
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when, frankly, there wasn't a lot of
story.
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So, with the little elements that he
had to photograph, he had to really
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make them hold the drama.
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When he joined Ingrid Bergman
in 1946,
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Capa was no stranger to
Hollywood.
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He had even been hired by a studio
as an apprentice producer director.
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But he was not very comfortable in
Hollywood.
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In Hollywood, you can only get
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around if you're a good driver.
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He was a terrible driver.
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He actually crashed a car out there.
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Capa quickly lost interest in
Hollywood.
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He preferred being a reporter.
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And Ingrid Bergman was talking about
marriage and family.
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Robert felt that he was not the
husband type,
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meaning that he knew that eventually
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he was going to die in a conflict.
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And he did die. And I think that
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Mamma always said that, if it had
been her choice,
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she would have married him,
but he wasn't available.
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But then she married my dad,
who was kind of a similar type.
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He said goodbye to Bergman and came
back to New York in the spring of
1947.
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I went to see him.
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And he was very depressed because
his expedition to Hollywood
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had not worked out.
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It was in New York in the restaurant
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at MoMA that Magnum Photos
was conceived.
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Well, Magnum really was his idea.
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It was something that he had dreamed
about since 1938, if not before.
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The idea that an agency could really
manage a photographer's work while
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they are out in the field
photographing and making the story.
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The young agency was revolutionary.
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As Cartier-Bresson said, "Magnum
is a community of thought,
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"guaranteeing photographers
exclusive ownership of their
negatives and prints."
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Before that time, nobody kept their
copyright.
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You know, you worked for Life
magazine,
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you just gave them the film.
You were like a plumber, basically.
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I think he felt that photographers
should be treated better too,
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to be given more right to do what
they wanted to do.
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Instead of being told how to take
things,
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they should be able to have more of
their own personality
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in photography.
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It was very difficult for the early
photographers
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cos none of the magazines,
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including Life magazine,
wanted to play by those rules.
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But Magnum desperately needed money,
and Capa, a shrewd businessman,
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saw his Hollywood connections as a
means to replenish the agency's bank
account.
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FROM FRENCH:
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The idea was a very good one, which
is to make stories about the movie,
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about the people, about the
location,
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to get publicity in
magazines.
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You had the photographer on the set
whose job was to cover everything
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that's going on on the set.
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But they would also bring in the
special photographer with the idea
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of getting spreads in major
magazines.
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The major magazines always wanted to
buy material because they didn't
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want the given-out material,
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cos they knew that everybody else
had it.
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The late '40s and then the early
'50s,
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he sort of cooked up his assignments
for himself
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to place him in these wonderful
locations where his friends were
filming.
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But he really was a magazine
photographer.
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That was really what his business
was.
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Later, he wrote about all the film
work he did very dismissively.
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He said, "That's done, I'm over with
that.
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"I want to get back to REAL
photography."
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And he said, "I want to travel,
maybe I'll go to Indochina."
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That was a year before he went.
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He said himself, towards the end,
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"photography's not for
grown-up men,"
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which meant that it wasn't that
exciting for him any more.
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And, of course, going to Indochina
was absolute madness.
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Magnum went on because of Chim.
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Nobody really thought that Magnum
would go on,
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cos Capa was really running Magnum
in a funny sort of way.
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It was just everybody rallying
around, saying, we won't let go.
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But Chim was absolutely determined.
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I remember Chim Seymour because Chim
was a very good friend of Capa.
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And when Capa died, um...
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he was a lot around us.
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I don't know if he was a lot around
us because Mum and Chim
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were consoling each other about
Bob's death or, you know,
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with friendship and presents.
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But I remember this wonderful...
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I remember his face always having
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a Leica round his neck
and photographing constantly.
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He was talking and interacting
and then taking photos as if they
were...
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..two person - one person that was
completely normal and talking,
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and then the other one noticing
things and so capturing it.
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And he created a mystique about my
family.
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I mean, the most beautiful photos of
the love between my mother and my
father,
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Roberto Rossellini, and the
three of us kids
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are captured in Chim's photo.
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Well, after Capa died,
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there were two people who kind of
looked upon Magnum as Capa's
children.
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One was Ted Patrick, who was the
editor of Holiday magazine,
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and the other one was John Huston.
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And they always came back to Magnum,
and they were very good about hiring
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younger photographers.
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And they were served very well.
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FROM FRENCH:
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When you come on a set like that,
it's not what you're looking for,
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it's what's in front of you
and what's possible,
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to see what's in front of you and
try to make something out of it.
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It's not rocket science.
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One's job was to find some different
aspect that a magazine could use.
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People like myself were really good
at doing that because we could do
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a different approach.
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We could attack from the side,
basically, rather than the front.
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Magnum photographers were observers
of the world.
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And this documentary approach was
poles apart from the studio's own
photos.
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They brought a breath of fresh air
into a world of gloss and touch-ups
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that offered a sterile notion of
perfection.
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In 1954...
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..I was based out of Hollywood.
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I went out there, initially,
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to work on a film that Stanley
Kramer was making called The Caine
Mutiny.
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And the star of the film was
Humphrey Bogart.
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For whatever reasons, Mr Bogart sort
of adopted me.
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He became my mentor.
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Billy Wilder introduced him to
Humphrey Bogart.
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And they hit it off because Bogart
was from New York and they were both
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sort of tough guys and full of
themselves,
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and they liked each other.
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And, you know, one of the signs of
Humphrey Bogart's trust in Dennis
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was he let him shoot him without his
toupee.
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Nobody knew Humphrey Bogart was
almost bald.
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And Dennis has these great pictures
on his sailboat
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of a bald, or balding,
Humphrey Bogart.
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And was kind enough to introduce me
to quite a few people that were in
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the motion picture industry.
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One of them was Nicholas Ray.
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And Nick had a ritual where he had a
Sunday soiree, so I was invited to
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one of these parties.
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Nick took me and then he guided me
over to a young man and he said,
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Dennis, this is James Dean.
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I had no idea who he was.
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In our discussions, Jimmy said, I
just finished a film called East Of
Eden,
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and would you like to come and see
it?
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I went to see the film
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and, frankly, I was blown away.
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And I went up to him and I said,
"It was wonderful,
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"I really love what you did,
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"I want to do a story on you."
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Dennis Stock followed James Dean for
two months,
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from Hollywood to Fairmount,
Indiana.
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The people who raised him from the
age of nine to about 19 were his
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aunt and uncle, and they welcomed me
with open arms.
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They were just extraordinarily
friendly.
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And till this day, I'm a close
friend of the family's.
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But in the mix of being there, I
could sense that Jimmy wasn't really
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ever going to return.
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And what it pointed out, though,
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is the tragedy of Jimmy incapable of
understanding what he had.
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He was just a little alienated soul
that bounced around in search of...
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..God knows what.
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One morning, we got up.
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He said, "Come on, I want to show
you something."
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We walked into this furniture store
and to another room.
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And in that other room were coffins.
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And he jumped into one.
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So we went through all these
childish expressions that he did
within the coffin.
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And at the very end, I sort of
grabbed him and I said,
"Now, sit still.
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"Just look at me. Sit up
and look at me."
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And within that image,
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I would like to believe that it
shows how lost he was.
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He lived...
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..a kind of contradictory life to
being on the cusp of being a star.
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There was something about New York
that wore him down.
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I followed him wherever he was
willing to show me what was
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his relationships to people and
locations,
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and what came out of that in the
final analysis that had the most
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appealing possibilities was the
photograph of him in the rain
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on Times Square.
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We probably have a great many young
people watching our show tonight.
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And for their benefit, I'd like your
opinion about fast driving on
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the highway. I used to fly around
quite a bit, you know.
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Took a lot of unnecessary chances on
the highway.
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And I started racing.
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And now I drive on the highways,
I'm extra cautious.
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Jimmy said he was going to drive the
following weekend,
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and would I like to come along?
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And my first reaction was,
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"Wow, yeah, I'd love that,
that would be fun."
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And I have no idea till this day,
but something came into my mind and
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I looked at him and I said,
"I can't."
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Take it easy driving. The life you
might save might be mine.
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You can say it's good fortune
I wasn't with him.
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When you have that kind of
relationship,
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it makes it so much different,
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you know, it makes it possible to
get that intimacy.
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And I think the extreme case of that
is undoubtedly Monroe with
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Eve Arnold. They were really friends
and totally at ease with each other.
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What happened was,
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Marilyn had seen a set of pictures
I'd done for Esquire on
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Marlene Dietrich. And you must
remember that, in the '50s -
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this was, I think, 1952 -
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and in those days, practically
everything was front lit,
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very carefully organised.
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I didn't know about any of that.
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And I was a documentary
photographer.
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I simply took her as she was.
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There was no posing, no set-up,
no lighting, no tripod.
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Just me and Marlene singing.
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There we were, working on this,
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and we were both at a party for
John Huston.
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And Sam Shaw, the mutual friend,
brought her over
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and introduced us. And she looked
at me and she said,
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"If you did that well with Marlene,
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"could you imagine what you can do
with me?"
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Which I thought was quite wonderful,
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because she had a naive quality,
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but she also had a great sense
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of showmanship and self-promotion.
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And she could see herself,
I was sure,
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and what she was going to look like
in Esquire.
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And then, one day, one night,
about...
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..four o'clock in the morning,
I guess it was,
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I got a call from her.
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And would I join her at ten o'clock
the next morning and go to
Bement with her?
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I could have an exclusive story
because there'd be only she and her
hairdresser.
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Eve had that delicate touch,
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and that's why, I think,
other actresses,
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including Joan Crawford,
allowed her to photograph her
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getting ready to go out.
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Because a lot of actresses are asked
to be not the person, but the image.
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So Joan Crawford allowed Eve to come
and photograph the process of
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creating this image of Joan Crawford
that people wanted.
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Because she wanted to reveal to the
world it isn't so easy when you say,
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"Come to dinner, drop by,
show yourself at the benefit."
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It takes hours of preparation
if you want the persona.
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And Eve was once again revealing an
aspect of human behaviour,
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but with no judgment.
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And it was in Chicago when we had
that heavy layover,
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which took hours...
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..and she went into the ladies'
room,
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and, you know, as another woman,
I just followed after.
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I didn't intend to shoot,
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but she looked so wonderful with her
skirts hiked up and those little fat
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chubby legs, which nobody thought of
as being that way, hanging out
below.
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Because I always thought of her as
kind of slender.
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And what she had, which was
wonderful,
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was a capacity to think tall,
cos she was small.
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This picture is so intimate.
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And I just love the idea that Eve
was so obviously friends with,
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and trusted by, and this to me is
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the ultimate taking of a picture.
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I photographed her over a ten-year
stretch.
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In the beginning, there was
something like
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the shortest of the six sessions
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was two hours and the longest was
two months -
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on the film The Misfits that
John Huston directed.
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Arthur Miller had written a short
story about three...
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..men who worked on the desert and
brought in the wild horses, which
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they then sold to be killed
for dog food.
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And into this wildlife of theirs
came Marilyn.
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It had Clark Gable in the lead,
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it had Marilyn as the female lead,
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it had Montgomery Clift,
Eli Wallach,
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and it was meant to bring Marilyn
forward as a very serious actress.
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IN FRENCH:
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The filming of The Misfits
played a pivotal role
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in the history of photography's
relationship with cinema.
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For three months, during the summer
of 1960,
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nine major Magnum photographers
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took turns to chronicle
this chaotic shoot
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in Reno, in the Nevada desert.
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The exceptional on-set access wasn't
just down to John Huston's
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close ties with the agency.
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The idea had originated with
Lee Jones,
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the then head of special projects in
the New York office,
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who felt this dream cast movie
deserved exceptional coverage.
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The first photographers to arrive in
Reno were Inge Morath and
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Henri Cartier-Bresson.
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So all of this was exotic.
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And naturally, this being such an
American movie, it was also exotic
to us.
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So, in a way, we approached it from
our very European point of view.
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The Misfits was the result of
Marilyn Monroe's
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kind of tardiness...
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..nervousness and just general, what
shall we say, just general distress.
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I was drawn to Marilyn Monroe not as
a sex object, but as a struggling
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artist who was really depressed.
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And there's one picture with Huston.
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I didn't like the idea that I'd
got away with it.
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You know, she was really in torment.
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I think Monty Clift must have been
another one,
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and I think a lot of them came out
of the Actors Studio in New York,
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the ones who Dennis felt were more
human and somehow managed to retain
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who they were, even in Hollywood,
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where everybody was sort of putting
on a facade.
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And Monty Clift didn't.
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Sometimes, you know, the work is
so...
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you know, you try to read through,
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and you feel sometimes it's on the
verge of a kind of craziness.
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But it isn't really craziness.
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It's really getting the truest part
of yourself out,
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and it's very hard, you know.
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I mean, it's not easy, let's say.
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Yes, I think we all used her.
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I don't think there's any question
about that.
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As a photographer, one has to accept
the fact that one does invade
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other people's privacy.
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However, you could argue that,
without the still camera,
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Marilyn would not have been Marilyn.
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We would not have seen her cos
that's the way most people saw her.
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So it's a circular thing.
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We all used each other.
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She used me...
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..to help her to get where she was
going -
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me and hundreds of others.
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You know, I was not unique in that.
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Unique only in the fact that she
trusted me.
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These photographers who worked on it
were not your paparazzi types -
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they were Magnum people.
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There were no people that would have
done damage or scandal or anything
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like that. Among us,
I don't think so.
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Filming wrapped on The Misfits on
November 4, 1960.
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The following day, Clark Gable
suffered a heart attack.
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He died days later.
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Rarely had the divide between
fiction and the real world
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been so narrow.
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With the challenge of TV,
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cinema had begun to lose its allure
for the big magazines.
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It was the end of an era for Magnum
and cinema.
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A little bit further, a little bit
further. That's it.
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Now get your hand up near your face.
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Near your face. I'm shooting in
very, very close on your head now.
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Keep your hand near... That's it.
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But a new era was beginning in
Europe.
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In London, David Hurn took up the
torch.
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What is called the '60s really
started in the late '50s.
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So that sort of cultural movement,
I was very much a part of.
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You know, by that time, I'd known
all the people, all the players.
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Tom Carlisle, an important
publicist,
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gave him privileged access into the
film world.
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Whenever Tom had a film that he
thought was interesting,
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he would always phone me up, and I
would go and do it, and so
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that's how I did the Bond films, and
Tom was the publicist on Barbarella,
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so that's how I did all the
Barbarella stuff.
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And so, the only film which was
well-known that I did that was
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not that was The Beatles.
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# It's been a hard day's night... #
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And I enjoyed doing them because I
didn't have to do the job of
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photographing what was happening
in front of the camera.
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I was much more interested on the
reaction of the fans to them, etc.
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In fact, it was so intense for them
that, if I drove a car with any of
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them in it, you could not stop
the car.
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If it was a red light, you went
through because, if you stopped,
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you would never move again.
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I think one of the other things is
that I always had a good,
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what I would call slightly
journalistic look.
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So I was aware you would get people
of this age,
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so that most of the pictures you see
are of the young kids,
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but I found it fascinating that
grannies were there as well.
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And so, maybe almost artificially,
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I might have more pictures of
grannies
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than were actually there
in the overall,
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because I would think that they were
important to do.
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While Beatlemania stormed the world,
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art-house cinema stirred a
revolution.
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Magnum newcomers, keen to make their
mark, documented these cinema
auteurs.
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The times sparked some surprising
collaborations.
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Nicolas Tikhomiroff befriended
Orson Welles.
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Constantine Manos followed Elia
Kazan during the shooting of
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America America, his most personal
film.
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And Bruce Davidson,
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who had just spent two years
documenting extreme poverty in
Harlem,
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was hired by Antonioni to photograph
his first American film...
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..Zabriskie Point.
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He did something very interesting.
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He said to me,
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"I'd like you to make a picture
that you like."
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So I learned there was this
pre-historic dried lake, and I took
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Daria and Mark and did a nude thing.
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I was completely free to do that,
you know.
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And it was a little bit
Antonioni-ish too,
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and maybe that's when he trusted me,
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because he knew that I was an artist
in
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a quest of life, and he understood
that, being an artist himself.
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The '70s signalled a shift in
Magnum's relationship with cinema.
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The public still had a healthy
interest in the stars,
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but the magazines now got their
pictures from the paparazzi.
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And their approach was radically
different.
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Although photographers disappeared
from film sets,
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cinema inspires them to this day.
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Like Gueorgui Pinkhassov,
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who discovered art and spirituality
through the eyes of
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a great Russian film-maker,
Andrei Tarkovsky.
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I remember, once I came to Magnum,
and they asked me if I would like to
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participate on the shooting of the
film, and I said no.
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They came back to me and they said,
"Listen," you know.
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"They don't want you to photograph
the film."
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But that they want me to look on the
countries
475
00:41:14,620 --> 00:41:16,700
which we were travelling through.
476
00:41:25,740 --> 00:41:30,740
This is going to be filmed with
few people - about six people.
477
00:41:31,020 --> 00:41:36,060
You are going to travel around the
Balkans in the small bus and
478
00:41:37,340 --> 00:41:38,900
in the winter period.
479
00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:46,060
Now, it's 45 years that I travel.
480
00:41:48,020 --> 00:41:52,980
I never stop in one place for more
than three months.
481
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:56,100
I know, if I stay in one place,
that I become blind.
482
00:42:07,860 --> 00:42:10,220
I could get on the places.
483
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:15,740
I could wake up in the morning
and say goodbye.
484
00:42:15,740 --> 00:42:18,100
I come back to a hotel in the
evening...
485
00:42:20,460 --> 00:42:21,780
..and I just walk around.
486
00:42:37,620 --> 00:42:42,620
Angelopoulos and me, we look on the
same reality.
487
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:45,940
We were looking for something
different.
488
00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:52,180
And it was interesting to show how
different people and different media
489
00:42:53,420 --> 00:42:55,460
can show the same reality.
490
00:42:56,660 --> 00:42:59,020
In fact, he told me, after a few
days, also...
491
00:43:20,340 --> 00:43:22,780
People still remember the pictures.
492
00:43:22,780 --> 00:43:24,100
They stay in their mind.
493
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:28,300
The pictures look like Koudelka's
pictures.
494
00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:30,580
And some of them are just on the
set,
495
00:43:30,580 --> 00:43:33,980
and that's one of the miracles of
photography.
496
00:43:33,980 --> 00:43:35,420
How does that happen?
497
00:43:35,420 --> 00:43:37,780
We've all got just a box with a hole
in the front.
498
00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:40,100
Now, in theory,
499
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:41,940
you shouldn't have any control
over that.
500
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:46,940
The reality is that, if you look at
ten Cartier-Bresson pictures,
501
00:43:48,780 --> 00:43:52,540
If you look at ten Koudelka
pictures, you can tell they're by
Koudelka.
502
00:43:52,540 --> 00:43:55,500
There's something absolutely
extraordinary about that.
503
00:45:06,860 --> 00:45:09,540
You know, it's very good that the
thing's documented.
504
00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:12,020
Whether or not you need to do it for
every Hollywood movie,
505
00:45:12,020 --> 00:45:14,340
I don't think so but, occasionally,
506
00:45:14,340 --> 00:45:16,780
some of them come along that are
just,
507
00:45:16,780 --> 00:45:19,580
you know, really crying out to be
recorded -
508
00:45:19,580 --> 00:45:23,060
something else beyond just the
narrative of the movie.
509
00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:29,220
It's wonderful to see these after...
God, how long, 20 years?
510
00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:32,300
That actually, it doesn't look
like a movie and that, to me,
511
00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:35,340
is fantastic. They look like
photographs.
512
00:45:35,340 --> 00:45:37,660
So, you know, I'm delighted by that.
513
00:45:39,140 --> 00:45:41,140
This was in Belgrade,
514
00:45:41,140 --> 00:45:44,900
the scene where we had the train and
the horses, and this was just
515
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:48,580
a waiting room in a station, but it
just looks so beautiful, you know,
516
00:45:48,580 --> 00:45:51,460
people smoking. They weren't even
part of the movie,
517
00:45:51,460 --> 00:45:54,100
it was just something that was
there.
518
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:56,980
So, you know, there is a fantastic
heritage.
519
00:45:56,980 --> 00:46:00,300
And I think, you know, we wanted
to drive that forward and continue
520
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:02,340
it in some way. But I don't know.
521
00:46:02,340 --> 00:46:05,740
Now the studios are so controlled
by PR.
522
00:46:05,740 --> 00:46:09,060
I don't think you could do it in
quite the same way as you could.
523
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:16,300
Normally, when you're photographing
celebrities, great actors,
524
00:46:16,300 --> 00:46:18,540
the expectation is you're going to
go into the studio.
525
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:21,180
Basically, the way it's worked for a
number of years now,
526
00:46:21,180 --> 00:46:24,140
you book a studio, you book a hair
and make-up team,
527
00:46:24,140 --> 00:46:26,420
and the actors have come to expect
that.
528
00:46:26,420 --> 00:46:29,020
But we wanted to try to somehow
shake that up,
529
00:46:29,020 --> 00:46:31,220
and that was the thinking behind the
year
530
00:46:31,220 --> 00:46:35,780
that we had Paolo Pellegrin do the
actors for our annual Great
Performers portfolio.
531
00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:39,700
And so she set the bar very high
because she said, "Paolo, I want you
532
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:42,780
"to rethink this genre."
533
00:46:42,780 --> 00:46:44,420
Um...
534
00:46:44,420 --> 00:46:46,660
I said, "OK, thank you."
535
00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:50,140
It's easier said than done because,
when you're in that world,
536
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:53,260
you can only do so much if you have
the access.
537
00:46:53,260 --> 00:46:58,340
You can't do a documentary reportage
on Cate Blanchett or Kate Winslet or
538
00:46:58,540 --> 00:47:02,660
Robert Downey Jr or whoever the
actor might be unless they're brave
enough
539
00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:06,500
to say, "Yes, come along, you can
watch me, fly on the wall."
540
00:47:06,500 --> 00:47:10,820
And with that particular project,
we managed to get that access.
541
00:47:10,820 --> 00:47:14,420
It's pretty impressive, given that,
at that point, Paolo was really
known
542
00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:16,660
for his war photography.
543
00:47:16,660 --> 00:47:20,340
So there's nothing in his body of
work that most actors would have
looked at
544
00:47:20,340 --> 00:47:22,980
and thought, "Oh, sure, I'd love to
be photographed by him."
545
00:47:22,980 --> 00:47:27,100
She obviously asked me because of
what I do,
546
00:47:27,100 --> 00:47:30,100
so I shouldn't do anything
different.
547
00:47:30,100 --> 00:47:33,980
And I should bring and apply my core
values,
548
00:47:33,980 --> 00:47:37,140
and those are an interest in the
other,
549
00:47:37,140 --> 00:47:41,180
which certainly transcends
a celebrity aspect...
550
00:47:42,420 --> 00:47:44,500
..or the public persona aspect.
551
00:47:44,500 --> 00:47:47,340
I went and I showed them my work and
I said,
552
00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:49,260
"I come from a different experience.
553
00:47:49,260 --> 00:47:52,060
"This is what I do."
And we started talking.
554
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:55,260
He said, "Let's go for a drive."
He has a beautiful car.
555
00:47:55,260 --> 00:47:57,940
So we started driving around,
and I was talking...
556
00:47:57,940 --> 00:48:00,180
He was talking about the narcos in
Mexico.
557
00:48:00,180 --> 00:48:03,180
I was talking about Gaza and the
Palestinians.
558
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:08,580
And, you know, what was supposed to
be 60 minutes, I don't remember,
559
00:48:08,580 --> 00:48:11,740
ended up being like an entire day
that we spent together.
560
00:48:13,020 --> 00:48:15,140
You know, when he got access,
let's say,
561
00:48:15,140 --> 00:48:17,860
to Sean Penn's home and Brad Pitt,
562
00:48:17,860 --> 00:48:20,620
he had access, but not full access.
563
00:48:20,620 --> 00:48:23,020
There were certain things that were
off-limits.
564
00:48:23,020 --> 00:48:26,900
On the other hand, I'm still amazed,
the access he got to Kate Winslet
565
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:29,580
and the cover picture of her in hair
curlers.
566
00:48:29,580 --> 00:48:32,420
I love that, that she had the
confidence to be so open.
567
00:48:32,420 --> 00:48:33,940
Of course, she looked spectacular.
568
00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:36,540
It was very special,
to photograph her,
569
00:48:36,540 --> 00:48:40,300
because she really brought
something...unique.
570
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:42,380
She had...
571
00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:46,900
a light which was really special and
very hers.
572
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:49,500
One thing I did tell them,
573
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:52,740
I'm not going to direct you, I don't
want to ask,
574
00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:55,500
but I would like, as much as
possible,
575
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:58,740
for you to enter your own inner
world,
576
00:48:58,740 --> 00:49:01,340
and she was so amazing at that...
577
00:49:02,540 --> 00:49:04,780
..that it became like this physical
battle.
578
00:49:04,780 --> 00:49:09,820
So, over the course of the session,
she was so good and she was so...
579
00:49:10,860 --> 00:49:15,820
You know, it nearly had a spiritual
element,
580
00:49:15,820 --> 00:49:17,900
the time I spent with her in that
hotel.
581
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:20,100
And maybe it was the hotel,
the red room,
582
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,580
this New York light coming through
the windows,
583
00:49:23,580 --> 00:49:27,700
this warm sort of yellow light and
her...
584
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:33,300
..capacity to keep, you know,
this moment for ever.
585
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:34,820
It was really, really special.
586
00:49:43,580 --> 00:49:47,420
What Paolo did is truly, you know,
587
00:49:47,420 --> 00:49:51,420
a majestic work by a photographer at
the height of his powers, you know,
588
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:52,500
in a way.
589
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:53,580
What I was doing was...
590
00:49:55,140 --> 00:49:57,540
..you know, something OK in the
midst of
591
00:49:57,540 --> 00:49:59,180
figuring a lot of things out.
592
00:49:59,180 --> 00:50:01,620
Every photographer has kind of a
different signature.
593
00:50:01,620 --> 00:50:05,260
Peter van Agtmael I see as being
more direct...
594
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:08,060
..and wanting it to look more like
595
00:50:08,060 --> 00:50:10,540
an inner world. There's like a
subtlety to his work.
596
00:50:10,540 --> 00:50:14,980
And often, his human figures,
they're always smaller in the frame.
597
00:50:14,980 --> 00:50:17,460
And he managed to even carry that
over
598
00:50:17,460 --> 00:50:20,100
into his coverage of Jeff Bridges,
599
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:23,980
which is interesting, cos Bridges
is extremely handsome,
600
00:50:23,980 --> 00:50:25,060
larger than life,
601
00:50:25,060 --> 00:50:27,340
famous actor, and yet he still
managed to make pictures
602
00:50:27,340 --> 00:50:29,500
where it looks like an ordinary guy
at the airport,
603
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:31,700
like, as if you wouldn't even
recognise him.
604
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:36,740
Really? That's him? I like that he's
just looking for ordinariness and,
605
00:50:40,300 --> 00:50:42,380
but it's just real life.
606
00:50:42,380 --> 00:50:46,540
I don't hold Hollywood in any
particular esteem,
607
00:50:46,540 --> 00:50:50,460
and so the pictures are not going to
necessarily mimic the language of
608
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:53,820
what has been created around these
people, which is this kind of...
609
00:50:53,820 --> 00:50:56,140
essentially a cult of personality,
you know.
610
00:50:58,020 --> 00:51:00,820
I don't really get it, honestly.
611
00:51:00,820 --> 00:51:04,180
A great celebrity portrait is one
that feels truer
612
00:51:04,180 --> 00:51:05,460
than the usual affair.
613
00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:07,700
In other words, that it's somehow a
portrait,
614
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:09,540
that there seems to be some element
615
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:13,660
of authenticity to it, where you get
a sense of who that person is.
616
00:51:13,660 --> 00:51:17,300
Maybe they're caught in an
ever-so-slightly off-guard moment.
617
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:20,300
I feel like, for all portraiture,
that's what you're always looking
for.
618
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:22,340
It's what I'm always looking for -
619
00:51:22,340 --> 00:51:24,900
there is something just unposed
enough,
620
00:51:24,900 --> 00:51:28,500
unselfconscious enough about the
picture-making that was happening
621
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,140
that there's some revelation of
truth.
622
00:51:30,140 --> 00:51:33,340
It's very hard to do that with
actors because, all day long,
623
00:51:33,340 --> 00:51:36,260
they're photographed, they're
filmed, they're putting on a face.
624
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:40,500
But still, a certain kind of
photographer might just get a little
bit closer,
625
00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:42,220
something a little bit truer.
626
00:51:43,700 --> 00:51:46,780
Recalling Magnum's first ventures
into Hollywood,
627
00:51:46,780 --> 00:51:50,180
this new generation of photographers
renewed the intimacy,
628
00:51:50,180 --> 00:51:54,100
that extra touch of humanity that
made Magnum's cinema photographs
such
629
00:51:54,100 --> 00:51:58,020
an essential part of the history of
both cinema and photography.
630
00:52:19,380 --> 00:52:22,140
We were all in the studio,
all about to shoot the picture,
631
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:25,020
and Tom comes up to me and he said,
"I've forgotten the gun,
632
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:27,660
"we don't have a gun."
So there we are,
633
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:30,780
in my studio without a gun, and all
634
00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:34,740
these people flown in from America
to be there!
635
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:37,420
So I said, "God, we're in luck."
636
00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:41,260
My hobby at the time was target
shooting, and the gun that I had,
637
00:52:41,260 --> 00:52:42,700
it was an air pistol.
638
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:44,740
I said, "Nobody here will know.
639
00:52:44,740 --> 00:52:47,100
"All you've got to do is,
640
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:49,220
"when they come to do the artwork
for the poster,
641
00:52:49,220 --> 00:52:51,780
"cut the barrel off there,
642
00:52:51,780 --> 00:52:53,380
"and nobody would know the
difference."
643
00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:57,740
There he is, posing about, Mr Bond
with his air pistol, you see!
644
00:52:57,740 --> 00:53:02,220
Well, of course, they forgot to tell
the people in the design thing to do
645
00:53:02,220 --> 00:53:05,460
that, and so the posters that came
out,
646
00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:08,860
they're all with Sean Connery with
an air pistol.
647
00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:10,340
I mean, isn't that...
648
00:53:10,340 --> 00:53:13,180
I mean, the world is bonkers!
649
00:53:13,180 --> 00:53:16,220
The film...world is bonkers!
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