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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,900 --> 00:00:21,410 [Music] 2 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:26,060 on the phone in Chicago 3 00:00:26,060 --> 00:00:28,320 1941 1941 4 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:53,179 [Music] 5 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,190 foreign 6 00:01:01,190 --> 00:01:17,190 [Music] 7 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:20,599 [Applause] 8 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:23,970 [Music] 9 00:01:23,970 --> 00:01:27,510 [Applause] 10 00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:37,740 [Music] 11 00:01:37,740 --> 00:01:39,290 foreign 12 00:01:39,290 --> 00:01:45,089 [Applause] 13 00:01:46,370 --> 00:02:00,920 [Music] 14 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,659 things that helped me in learning to 15 00:02:03,659 --> 00:02:06,060 play the harmonica was that I realized 16 00:02:06,060 --> 00:02:08,160 that I could never speak 17 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,679 the way any other individual 18 00:02:10,679 --> 00:02:13,440 spoke on the harmonica each has their 19 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,319 own way of saying things so I just went 20 00:02:16,319 --> 00:02:18,420 ahead and got to a point of learning the 21 00:02:18,420 --> 00:02:19,680 instrument well enough that I could 22 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,500 speak the way I wanted to speak which is 23 00:02:22,500 --> 00:02:24,239 really a nice thing about this 24 00:02:24,239 --> 00:02:25,860 instrument it's such a personal 25 00:02:25,860 --> 00:02:28,860 instrument it's really like a horn from 26 00:02:28,860 --> 00:02:30,370 the heart 27 00:02:30,370 --> 00:02:38,879 [Music] 28 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:41,340 first day I was in Chicago 29 00:02:41,340 --> 00:02:43,140 I was walking around the neighborhood 30 00:02:43,140 --> 00:02:45,480 you know just trying to 31 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,000 Chicago was a pretty big town biggest 32 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,840 town I'd ever seen and and I saw a guy a 33 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,819 white guy sitting on some steps in front 34 00:02:53,819 --> 00:02:55,620 of an apartment building playing guitar 35 00:02:55,620 --> 00:02:57,420 and drinking a quart of beer and he was 36 00:02:57,420 --> 00:03:00,599 playing Blues I said wow this has got to 37 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:02,280 be my type of guy and I went over and 38 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,440 started talking to him and we you know 39 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,480 Butterfield he wasn't playing much 40 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,459 harmonica at that time 41 00:03:08,459 --> 00:03:11,640 he played mostly guitar 42 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:13,620 and shortly after that he took up the 43 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:17,420 harmonica and within six months 44 00:03:17,640 --> 00:03:19,680 I use a natural genius on the instrument 45 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,620 he just got way good in a short amount 46 00:03:22,620 --> 00:03:24,000 of time 47 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,060 Paul seemed to start at full speed he 48 00:03:27,060 --> 00:03:28,739 would go for it 49 00:03:28,739 --> 00:03:31,019 absolutely and he had 50 00:03:31,019 --> 00:03:33,239 tremendous courage 51 00:03:33,239 --> 00:03:35,400 I mean you cannot minimize the courage 52 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,480 it took 53 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,420 to go into a blues club and sit in 54 00:03:39,420 --> 00:03:42,860 I'm astonished by 55 00:03:42,860 --> 00:03:45,860 itself 56 00:03:49,580 --> 00:03:54,000 I'm here at Silvio's which was an 57 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,099 incredible Blues place and the home base 58 00:03:56,099 --> 00:03:58,620 of Howlin Wolf obviously it's a field 59 00:03:58,620 --> 00:03:59,819 right now 60 00:03:59,819 --> 00:04:01,860 and it's been gone so long there's a 61 00:04:01,860 --> 00:04:02,760 tree here 62 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,580 it's huge 63 00:04:05,580 --> 00:04:09,180 and my father Paul Butterfield 64 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:12,780 Barry Goldberg Charlie muscle White 65 00:04:12,780 --> 00:04:15,299 they all cut their teeth here Michael 66 00:04:15,299 --> 00:04:17,459 Bloomfield and the way they cut their 67 00:04:17,459 --> 00:04:19,500 teeth here was wolf would call these 68 00:04:19,500 --> 00:04:22,139 guys up on stage to play with them and 69 00:04:22,139 --> 00:04:23,580 and what an honor that must have been 70 00:04:23,580 --> 00:04:26,280 and really if you think standing on the 71 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:27,660 stage with your Heroes at that time 72 00:04:27,660 --> 00:04:29,460 didn't make you go home and practice 73 00:04:29,460 --> 00:04:31,979 your instrument you got to be crazy 74 00:04:31,979 --> 00:04:35,040 this room is definitely a part of my 75 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,580 father's sound 76 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:41,600 all night long 77 00:04:41,880 --> 00:05:00,860 [Music] 78 00:05:00,860 --> 00:05:03,540 Hyde Park Illinois the home of the 79 00:05:03,540 --> 00:05:05,699 University of Chicago is a one and a 80 00:05:05,699 --> 00:05:07,259 half square mile neighborhood on 81 00:05:07,259 --> 00:05:09,540 Chicago's South Side until the early 82 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:11,940 1950s Hyde Park was an almost 83 00:05:11,940 --> 00:05:14,520 exclusively White Community surrounded 84 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,740 on three sides by African-American 85 00:05:16,740 --> 00:05:19,020 communities many of whose residents had 86 00:05:19,020 --> 00:05:21,000 migrated from the south 87 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,240 beginning in the mid-1950s Hyde Park 88 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:25,979 became one of Chicago's most racially 89 00:05:25,979 --> 00:05:28,080 diverse neighborhoods at a time when 90 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:29,460 other parts of the country were 91 00:05:29,460 --> 00:05:31,560 struggling with race relations 92 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,120 things weren't too cool it was way 93 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:34,199 before 94 00:05:34,199 --> 00:05:36,419 civil rights you know 95 00:05:36,419 --> 00:05:39,720 and even though Chicago was better than 96 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,780 Oklahoma was it was rough it was 97 00:05:42,780 --> 00:05:45,419 it was Hardcore segregated 98 00:05:45,419 --> 00:05:47,039 and uh 99 00:05:47,039 --> 00:05:49,440 Chicago was a little cooler but Hyde 100 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:51,539 Park was real cool 101 00:05:51,539 --> 00:05:55,400 and in that area surrounding University 102 00:05:55,400 --> 00:06:00,300 we're 50 60 70 blues bars all with a 103 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:03,120 band there was Blues being played by the 104 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,840 best of the players and it was there in 105 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:10,680 Hyde Park at Paul Bogger field was born 106 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:11,780 and raised 107 00:06:11,780 --> 00:06:19,680 [Music] 108 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,039 folklore Society was the biggest 109 00:06:22,039 --> 00:06:25,800 organization on campus it was there I 110 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,440 met Paul Butterfield it was there we 111 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:30,300 started to do a few things together I'd 112 00:06:30,300 --> 00:06:31,440 play guitar 113 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,780 and he'd play harmonica we called 114 00:06:33,780 --> 00:06:36,479 ourselves Nick and Paul butter and I 115 00:06:36,479 --> 00:06:37,979 would go and play at the parties Nick 116 00:06:37,979 --> 00:06:40,440 gravenitis and uh 117 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,720 we we didn't have any money we would do 118 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,880 stuff like Whittle everybody got drunk 119 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,440 and then go look in the freezer and 120 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,660 throw a bunch of steaks in the alley and 121 00:06:48,660 --> 00:06:53,100 pick him up on a way home you know 122 00:06:53,100 --> 00:07:11,000 [Music] 123 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,919 at a certain point the house band at the 124 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:15,000 twist party 125 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,539 became Paul and Elven and they had a 126 00:07:18,539 --> 00:07:19,800 Rhythm Section known as the Wilson 127 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,380 Brothers a couple of black guys 128 00:07:22,380 --> 00:07:24,300 the band sounded good 129 00:07:24,300 --> 00:07:27,240 and it was an atypically integrated 130 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,099 scene racially 131 00:07:29,099 --> 00:07:31,319 some black young people would come from 132 00:07:31,319 --> 00:07:33,479 the neighborhood to dance and nearby 133 00:07:33,479 --> 00:07:36,780 they're set a small piano 134 00:07:36,780 --> 00:07:42,020 which I would feel out and play along 135 00:07:43,020 --> 00:07:46,110 [Music] 136 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,380 this guy named Norman dayron he had a 137 00:07:49,380 --> 00:07:51,300 tape recorder and I guess he was a 138 00:07:51,300 --> 00:07:53,099 school teacher professor at the 139 00:07:53,099 --> 00:07:54,419 University or something 140 00:07:54,419 --> 00:07:57,240 and one day he told Butterfield and 141 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:58,740 cotton and me you guys want to hear what 142 00:07:58,740 --> 00:08:00,720 you sound like so he got us to come to 143 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:03,360 this building that was empty it was in 144 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:04,860 the evening at the University of Chicago 145 00:08:04,860 --> 00:08:06,840 and he set up his Walnut sack tape 146 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:07,919 recorder 147 00:08:07,919 --> 00:08:10,740 it was me and cotton and Butterfield and 148 00:08:10,740 --> 00:08:14,000 Billy boy Arnold 149 00:08:14,210 --> 00:08:21,129 [Music] 150 00:08:22,979 --> 00:08:25,500 the good thing about butter was he was 151 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:27,300 one of the few harmonica players you'll 152 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:29,879 ever see who wasn't totally dominated by 153 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:32,399 Little Walter their style is so 154 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:34,860 attractive that it just stops people in 155 00:08:34,860 --> 00:08:36,479 their tracks and they can't think of any 156 00:08:36,479 --> 00:08:38,520 other way to go you know 157 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,219 and Butterfield somehow he he was always 158 00:08:41,219 --> 00:08:43,760 himself 159 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:51,059 [Music] 160 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:54,899 I became aware of Butterfield one night 161 00:08:54,899 --> 00:08:57,300 he showed up at a place I was working 162 00:08:57,300 --> 00:08:59,880 with a little smoky Smothers then 163 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,220 place called a blue flame 164 00:09:02,220 --> 00:09:04,560 he was on the white person in the place 165 00:09:04,560 --> 00:09:07,560 at the time hanging around wanted to get 166 00:09:07,560 --> 00:09:10,260 a chance to sit in with the band after 167 00:09:10,260 --> 00:09:12,899 he called the band back off the break 168 00:09:12,899 --> 00:09:14,519 I'm going to get this white boy up in 169 00:09:14,519 --> 00:09:16,500 that end play a little bit and everybody 170 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:19,019 got quiet he was his white boy going to 171 00:09:19,019 --> 00:09:19,980 do 172 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:22,200 he showed him what he could do you know 173 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,060 he really showed him what he could do 174 00:09:24,060 --> 00:09:25,880 and he kept showing it 175 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:34,669 [Music] 176 00:09:38,959 --> 00:09:41,279 people got some of the whites would 177 00:09:41,279 --> 00:09:43,800 start to coming in hey y'all gonna have 178 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,600 that white boy back up you know the 179 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,640 following week and it just went on and 180 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,260 on and it kept going and never stopped 181 00:09:51,260 --> 00:09:59,360 [Music] 182 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:02,100 like all Brothers we struggle we 183 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:03,240 competed 184 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,580 but we also 185 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:07,860 theme old western movies always had to 186 00:10:07,860 --> 00:10:08,700 do with 187 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:10,560 somebody seeking revenge for somebody 188 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,300 who killed their brother 189 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:15,300 so if anybody messed with Paul 190 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:18,600 I was on it and the same if they messed 191 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,779 with me he was on it so we were Rivals 192 00:10:21,779 --> 00:10:23,640 and yet very close 193 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,060 I think I probably first met Paul I must 194 00:10:27,060 --> 00:10:29,040 have been nine perhaps because I can 195 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:30,600 remember him I can remember walking to 196 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,060 school and there he was this antic 197 00:10:33,060 --> 00:10:34,500 character on the other side of the 198 00:10:34,500 --> 00:10:36,959 street never never just walking he was 199 00:10:36,959 --> 00:10:40,019 helping or jumping or laughing and uh so 200 00:10:40,019 --> 00:10:42,180 he decided to throw some Stones across 201 00:10:42,180 --> 00:10:43,860 the street at me so that was really my 202 00:10:43,860 --> 00:10:46,140 my introduction to Paul Butterfield he 203 00:10:46,140 --> 00:10:47,640 was utterly Charming 204 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:51,120 gorgeous looking with his blue eyes and 205 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,540 his dark hair and who knew that 15 years 206 00:10:54,540 --> 00:10:56,880 later I'd become his sister-in-law he 207 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:58,680 was for for a long time he was just 208 00:10:58,680 --> 00:11:01,380 Peter's younger brother to me her 209 00:11:01,380 --> 00:11:03,420 parents certainly provided both of us 210 00:11:03,420 --> 00:11:06,480 with every advantage in a sense 211 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:09,480 not material things but exposure to 212 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,079 music the Arts things they valued 213 00:11:13,079 --> 00:11:15,060 that we value 214 00:11:15,060 --> 00:11:17,459 so we felt we had a very privileged 215 00:11:17,459 --> 00:11:19,140 upbringing 216 00:11:19,140 --> 00:11:21,600 they grew up without a TV 217 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,880 they grew up listening to classical 218 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,899 music all the time my grandmother 219 00:11:27,899 --> 00:11:31,440 took uh took my dad to the symphony 220 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:33,500 orchestra in Chicago 221 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:36,720 and he picked out 222 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:39,779 a cellist I believe it was that was Out 223 00:11:39,779 --> 00:11:40,800 Of Tune 224 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:44,100 and she knew right then that he had a 225 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:45,120 special 226 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,240 Talent his brother played the clarinet 227 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,899 and Paul took up flute our parents 228 00:11:51,899 --> 00:11:54,420 got him a good teacher from the uh 229 00:11:54,420 --> 00:11:58,500 Symphony and he played for a while 230 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:00,120 Paul and I went to high school together 231 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,980 at the University of Chicago laboratory 232 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:04,500 school new high the school was wonderful 233 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:06,720 in that it really tried to engage 234 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,519 students to be able to be the ones to 235 00:12:08,519 --> 00:12:10,800 initiate the ideas it wasn't a call in 236 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,079 response it wasn't a now you do this and 237 00:12:13,079 --> 00:12:14,760 the answer is that it was very much 238 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,940 conversation based and lucky for Paul he 239 00:12:17,940 --> 00:12:20,339 was a good talker he could talk his way 240 00:12:20,339 --> 00:12:22,440 out of just about anything so it was a 241 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,300 good place for him to be 242 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:28,260 he was um not entirely focused student 243 00:12:28,260 --> 00:12:31,019 bring raisins to to with his lunch every 244 00:12:31,019 --> 00:12:32,640 day me throwing those all around getting 245 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,380 a little trouble throw a chair out the 246 00:12:34,380 --> 00:12:36,600 window an instigator yeah 247 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:46,350 [Music] 248 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,300 his energy came out in his singing as 249 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:50,339 well he was he was a member of the of 250 00:12:50,339 --> 00:12:52,320 our Jimmy shanties which was the name of 251 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:54,480 our high school choir and he also was 252 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,760 involved in various shows but again it 253 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,839 wasn't that he had such a wonderful 254 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:00,360 voice it was his energy and his 255 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,940 personality that always carried it he 256 00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:05,180 brought it to the music at an intensity 257 00:13:05,180 --> 00:13:09,660 in a passion and he just worked it until 258 00:13:09,660 --> 00:13:11,980 he could do it 259 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:13,160 [Music] 260 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,800 and he was a leader not a leader in in a 261 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,420 standard leader sense when you think of 262 00:13:18,420 --> 00:13:20,760 somebody who's you know says I will take 263 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,220 charge and I will do it was more the um 264 00:13:23,220 --> 00:13:25,500 the follow me along because I'm having 265 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:27,480 such a good time that kind of a leader 266 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,639 people wanted to be by him 267 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:31,980 After High School my brother who was 268 00:13:31,980 --> 00:13:34,440 somewhat of an athletic Star first he'd 269 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,779 had a scholarship to Brown University in 270 00:13:36,779 --> 00:13:38,399 track and field 271 00:13:38,399 --> 00:13:40,980 and then he suffered an injury 272 00:13:40,980 --> 00:13:43,680 and so that was kind of out the window 273 00:13:43,680 --> 00:13:45,779 but he did get into University of 274 00:13:45,779 --> 00:13:47,399 Illinois 275 00:13:47,399 --> 00:13:50,100 but in the spring and summer before he 276 00:13:50,100 --> 00:13:51,740 would go off to University of Illinois 277 00:13:51,740 --> 00:13:54,360 he took his deep plunge 278 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,940 into the blues into the harmonica 279 00:13:56,940 --> 00:13:59,459 the way Paul mastered the harmonica was 280 00:13:59,459 --> 00:14:03,120 simply to virtually play it 24 7. he 281 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,820 used to go out to a peninsula on the 282 00:14:05,820 --> 00:14:08,820 lakefront in Chicago just north of 57th 283 00:14:08,820 --> 00:14:09,839 Street beach 284 00:14:09,839 --> 00:14:12,540 it was called Promontory Point 285 00:14:12,540 --> 00:14:15,060 I'd go and see him and I knew not to 286 00:14:15,060 --> 00:14:16,740 bother him because he would be totally 287 00:14:16,740 --> 00:14:19,260 absorbed in his playing 288 00:14:19,260 --> 00:14:21,420 so by the time he was ready to go to 289 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:22,560 college 290 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,779 he went to college let's say he went on 291 00:14:24,779 --> 00:14:26,220 a Monday 292 00:14:26,220 --> 00:14:29,399 he stayed through Thursday 293 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:31,560 and came back to Chicago 294 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,420 and hung out with his friends and was on 295 00:14:33,420 --> 00:14:35,700 the blue scene then after a while he 296 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:36,480 would 297 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,120 go on Monday and come back on Tuesday 298 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,100 and then after a while he wouldn't go at 299 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:42,540 all 300 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:45,300 so and nobody had a clue 301 00:14:45,300 --> 00:14:48,300 that he was even in town 302 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:51,120 I remember I took him to his first Club 303 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,060 Smitty's Corners 35th Street muddy 304 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:57,360 waterspan and we sort of hustled our way 305 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,760 in the door we're both just young punks 306 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,560 no ID 307 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:03,480 and then we would hear things like the 308 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,399 police would call and somebody had 309 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:08,040 pulled a car over and there a bunch of 310 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,440 unsavory characters in it including 311 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,060 my brother 312 00:15:12,060 --> 00:15:14,279 and then my father who you know was a 313 00:15:14,279 --> 00:15:16,800 lawyer could go down to the station and 314 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:17,590 get them out 315 00:15:17,590 --> 00:15:21,019 [Music] 316 00:15:21,019 --> 00:15:24,000 Paul takes his plunge into the blues at 317 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:25,800 a time when folk music is enjoying a 318 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:27,860 Renaissance among American Youth 319 00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:29,519 characterized by acoustic 320 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:31,139 instrumentation and themes of social 321 00:15:31,139 --> 00:15:33,779 justice and led by artists like Bob 322 00:15:33,779 --> 00:15:36,480 Dylan Joan Baez Pete Seeger and many 323 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,279 traditional and contemporary folk 324 00:15:38,279 --> 00:15:40,800 musicians the folk boom of the early 60s 325 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,139 spawns thriving folk music scenes in 326 00:15:43,139 --> 00:15:44,880 major metropolitan areas and college 327 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:48,420 towns throughout the U.S in Boston a 328 00:15:48,420 --> 00:15:49,860 young folk he soon to make his own 329 00:15:49,860 --> 00:15:51,839 musical Mark sets out on a journey 330 00:15:51,839 --> 00:15:53,579 across the country in search of new 331 00:15:53,579 --> 00:15:55,680 musicians and new sounds 332 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:58,980 it was 1961 when I got to Chicago and I 333 00:15:58,980 --> 00:16:02,100 met Paul Butterfield and I was 21 and he 334 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:05,459 was 19. he must have liked me because we 335 00:16:05,459 --> 00:16:07,199 became friends very quickly and I was 336 00:16:07,199 --> 00:16:08,579 glad of it because I didn't know anybody 337 00:16:08,579 --> 00:16:10,500 in Chicago and here I had this guy who 338 00:16:10,500 --> 00:16:12,300 was obviously a good musician taking me 339 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:13,860 around to all these places that I never 340 00:16:13,860 --> 00:16:16,260 would have been able to see I never 341 00:16:16,260 --> 00:16:18,000 would have seen Muddy Waters at Pepper's 342 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,760 lounge or Howling Wolf if Paul hadn't 343 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,560 taken me there and both times we went 344 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,480 there we were the only white people in 345 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,519 the place yet they all knew Paul and 346 00:16:26,519 --> 00:16:28,860 they treated him just like a friend 347 00:16:28,860 --> 00:16:31,199 I got the feeling like muddy really 348 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:34,500 liked Paul a lot and that he was glad to 349 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:37,980 be able to teach him and show him and 350 00:16:37,980 --> 00:16:40,560 have somebody a young person 351 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,160 and specifically a young white person 352 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,899 who could already play great blues 353 00:16:45,899 --> 00:16:47,040 harmonica 354 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,220 both Muddy Waters and I think especially 355 00:16:50,220 --> 00:16:53,940 Howling Wolf were very powerful Dynamic 356 00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:56,279 performers they they were intimidating 357 00:16:56,279 --> 00:16:59,759 in a certain way they were very strong 358 00:16:59,759 --> 00:17:02,759 and I could see that Paul had that kind 359 00:17:02,759 --> 00:17:04,980 of quality about him too even at that 360 00:17:04,980 --> 00:17:08,819 young age so that later on as he formed 361 00:17:08,819 --> 00:17:10,819 the blues band and and became well known 362 00:17:10,819 --> 00:17:15,540 that same strong quality was in Paul 363 00:17:15,540 --> 00:17:18,069 foreign 364 00:17:18,069 --> 00:17:21,209 [Music] 365 00:17:21,299 --> 00:17:24,600 in the early 1960s Chicago is arguably 366 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,299 the urban Blues capital of the world 367 00:17:27,299 --> 00:17:29,400 by day it's the home of the renowned 368 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,380 Chess Records whose roster of stars 369 00:17:31,380 --> 00:17:33,480 includes Chuck Berry Willie Dixon 370 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:36,299 Howland Wolfe and Muddy Waters 371 00:17:36,299 --> 00:17:38,820 who always special I'd seen him numerous 372 00:17:38,820 --> 00:17:41,640 times at chess sitting in the music 373 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:43,620 musician's waiting room 374 00:17:43,620 --> 00:17:45,960 he go up I don't know I don't know he 375 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:47,580 was playing but they would let him come 376 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:49,200 you know he got to know muddy he got to 377 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,179 know Little Walter he got to know all 378 00:17:51,179 --> 00:17:52,620 the players 379 00:17:52,620 --> 00:17:55,020 at night the biggest names in the Blues 380 00:17:55,020 --> 00:17:57,120 perform at over a hundred clubs in the 381 00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,039 tough black neighborhoods on the city's 382 00:17:59,039 --> 00:18:01,320 South and West sides Paul Butterfield 383 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,419 and Nick ravenitis are regulars on this 384 00:18:03,419 --> 00:18:05,880 late night circuit listening learning 385 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:07,799 and sometimes sitting in 386 00:18:07,799 --> 00:18:10,679 Nick carries a pistol for protection 387 00:18:10,679 --> 00:18:13,020 live Blues doesn't arrive on the mostly 388 00:18:13,020 --> 00:18:15,299 white north side of Chicago until the 389 00:18:15,299 --> 00:18:18,360 summer of 1963 when a bar called Big 390 00:18:18,360 --> 00:18:20,400 John's contacts Paul about putting 391 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:22,320 together a band to perform there four 392 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,700 nights a week 393 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:25,860 when barter first started playing Big 394 00:18:25,860 --> 00:18:27,780 John's it was when he was at a 395 00:18:27,780 --> 00:18:29,400 Crossroads in his life 396 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,020 family pressure 397 00:18:31,020 --> 00:18:34,260 get a job you know get serious that's 398 00:18:34,260 --> 00:18:36,059 how that band started 399 00:18:36,059 --> 00:18:38,100 Paul knew what he wanted he wanted a 400 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:40,440 dynamite Rhythm Section and he got the 401 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,480 best Rhythm Section in Chicago howling 402 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:44,700 Wolf's Rhythm Section with Jerome Arnold 403 00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:47,480 and Sam Lake 404 00:18:48,620 --> 00:18:51,900 what made me go with Butterfield he 405 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:54,720 opened me 20 bucks a night and I was 406 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,780 only getting seven a night with the wolf 407 00:18:57,780 --> 00:19:01,200 it was just four of us myself Jerome 408 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,660 almond Butterfield and Evan Bishop 409 00:19:03,660 --> 00:19:06,120 that's the original band when I left 410 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,059 wolf Jerome came with me so suddenly 411 00:19:09,059 --> 00:19:11,880 Paul Butterfield had howling Wolf's 412 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,620 Rhythm Section 413 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:15,900 instant credibility 414 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:18,840 and the people on the North side went 415 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,780 nuts not only on the North side across 416 00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:22,330 the country 417 00:19:22,330 --> 00:19:25,450 [Applause] 418 00:19:28,679 --> 00:19:31,799 it was an idea whose time had come you 419 00:19:31,799 --> 00:19:33,840 know I think it was kind of overdue we 420 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,100 were at the right place at the right 421 00:19:35,100 --> 00:19:37,919 time the big beautiful body of Music the 422 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:41,580 blues the American Blues the black blues 423 00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:45,240 in this huge white audience that never 424 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,179 to any extent met and the idea just 425 00:19:48,179 --> 00:19:49,500 caught fire 426 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:51,179 there were all sorts of characters 427 00:19:51,179 --> 00:19:53,340 people from Second City would come in 428 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:56,400 David Steinberg Robert Klein Ken Nordeen 429 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,340 the great word Jazz hipster would be 430 00:19:59,340 --> 00:20:02,039 hustling pool in the back room there 431 00:20:02,039 --> 00:20:04,140 would be socialites coming from the near 432 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:06,600 North Side Lakeshore Drive there would 433 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,419 be robbers burglars pimps [ __ ] 434 00:20:09,419 --> 00:20:12,000 anything you can imagine under one flag 435 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,510 the Blues 436 00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:24,020 [Music] 437 00:20:24,020 --> 00:20:26,740 thank you 438 00:20:26,740 --> 00:20:30,970 [Music] 439 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:34,860 Butterfield was a legend in Chicago and 440 00:20:34,860 --> 00:20:37,320 worried about him was spreading 441 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,919 and Fritz Richmond told Paul Rothschild 442 00:20:40,919 --> 00:20:43,740 Paul you ought to go see this guy and he 443 00:20:43,740 --> 00:20:46,679 goes to Chicago and he sees Butterfield 444 00:20:46,679 --> 00:20:49,440 and said to Butterfield I want to record 445 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:51,660 you and Butterfield says okay and he 446 00:20:51,660 --> 00:20:53,039 said let's go on over to this other 447 00:20:53,039 --> 00:20:55,860 place and they go and and they see Mike 448 00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:57,179 Bloomfield playing with the Mike 449 00:20:57,179 --> 00:20:58,620 Bloomfield band 450 00:20:58,620 --> 00:21:01,020 and Paul asked The Logical question hey 451 00:21:01,020 --> 00:21:02,940 why is Mike playing with your band he 452 00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:04,740 said I've tried a number of times and I 453 00:21:04,740 --> 00:21:06,780 can't get him to do it well Rothschild 454 00:21:06,780 --> 00:21:09,240 could pretty much convince anybody if 455 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:10,020 anything 456 00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:12,360 and he got Bloomfield to join the 457 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,460 Butterfield Blues Band 458 00:21:14,460 --> 00:21:16,440 about the time that there was a 459 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:18,840 possibility suddenly of a recording 460 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,100 contract 461 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:22,140 which was something that I don't think 462 00:21:22,140 --> 00:21:24,000 Paul or any of the other members of the 463 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,480 band ever envisioned happening 464 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,240 uh Paul got his draft notice the draft 465 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,940 notice was really a descent so that's 466 00:21:32,940 --> 00:21:34,500 the way we reviewed it 467 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:37,380 I think Paul just saw this as oh my God 468 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:39,780 here I almost have it and it's being 469 00:21:39,780 --> 00:21:41,760 taken away from me 470 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,159 I never Virginia McEwen it was a bar 471 00:21:44,159 --> 00:21:46,200 made at big John's 472 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:49,320 she knew of Paul's plight and she 473 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,480 offered to Mary Ball to keep him out of 474 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:52,500 the draft 475 00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:54,240 she could very well have saved his 476 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,640 career and saved his life 477 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,039 though it wasn't meant as a traditional 478 00:21:59,039 --> 00:21:59,940 marriage 479 00:21:59,940 --> 00:22:04,500 they did have a son in 1965 and they 480 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:08,039 were close but not family close although 481 00:22:08,039 --> 00:22:10,500 later Paul became very involved in 482 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:12,840 Gabriel's life and it was important to 483 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,059 both of them I think 484 00:22:15,059 --> 00:22:17,460 another thing about Paul Rothschild 485 00:22:17,460 --> 00:22:19,500 is he introduced my brother to Albert 486 00:22:19,500 --> 00:22:22,919 Grossman who was a well-known manager of 487 00:22:22,919 --> 00:22:26,820 Bob Dylan Peter Paul and Mary and Albert 488 00:22:26,820 --> 00:22:29,159 was very taken with Paul's band 489 00:22:29,159 --> 00:22:31,500 and gave them a lot of exposure here and 490 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:32,940 then Nationwide 491 00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:36,059 and the band went into the studio 492 00:22:36,059 --> 00:22:38,580 we put them in a studio I thought it was 493 00:22:38,580 --> 00:22:40,140 pretty good and we pressed up 10 000 494 00:22:40,140 --> 00:22:42,360 copies because the Paul Butterfield 495 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:46,020 blues band had a track on sampler number 496 00:22:46,020 --> 00:22:48,240 six and it was selling well in Chicago 497 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,580 and it turned out to be Butterfield 498 00:22:50,580 --> 00:22:52,980 blues band track that was making it 499 00:22:52,980 --> 00:22:53,760 happen 500 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,400 I had become a pilot I started flying 501 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,480 when I was 1960 and it's now 502 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,240 1964 and I have my own airplane and 503 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,020 we're flying up to visit Tom Rush's aunt 504 00:23:07,020 --> 00:23:09,740 on Martha's Vineyard on a one beautiful 505 00:23:09,740 --> 00:23:13,080 Saturday afternoon and Paul Rothschild 506 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,000 says 507 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:16,679 I hate to tell you this but I've 508 00:23:16,679 --> 00:23:18,120 listened to the record again and don't 509 00:23:18,120 --> 00:23:20,520 think I got it 510 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,799 at which point I put the plane into a 511 00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:24,600 shallow dive 512 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:28,200 scaring the crap out of Rothschild and I 513 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,640 said you want to tell me that again and 514 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,380 he said I don't think I got it I think 515 00:23:31,380 --> 00:23:33,000 we've got to scrap the records I said 516 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,200 what do you mean you don't have it he 517 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,600 said I it's not as good as it could be 518 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,960 well that's all you have to say to me 519 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,320 all right I'll scrap them 520 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,100 thank you 521 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,559 foreign 522 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:52,799 by 1965 young people are tuning in to 523 00:23:52,799 --> 00:23:54,600 music played on electric plugged in 524 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,059 instruments artists with number one 525 00:23:57,059 --> 00:23:58,679 records that year include the Beatles 526 00:23:58,679 --> 00:24:01,919 The Supremes The Temptations The Beach 527 00:24:01,919 --> 00:24:05,460 Boys the birds with Mr Tambourine Man a 528 00:24:05,460 --> 00:24:08,520 Bob Dylan song and the Rolling Stones by 529 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,280 the summer of 65 Dylan's electrified 530 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,559 Like a Rolling Stone is on the radio 531 00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:16,919 everywhere many in the folk scene view 532 00:24:16,919 --> 00:24:19,140 this electric music as a threat to or 533 00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:21,000 even a Corruption of the authentic 534 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,159 American Music they embrace 535 00:24:23,159 --> 00:24:25,140 the Newport Folk Festival had been a 536 00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:27,120 showcase for traditional folk and blues 537 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:30,780 since its founding in 1959 and Bob Dylan 538 00:24:30,780 --> 00:24:32,760 is slated to be the headliner of Newport 539 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,860 1965. 540 00:24:34,860 --> 00:24:36,900 Joe Boyd is the production manager of 541 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:38,700 the festival and attends a meeting where 542 00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:40,740 board member Peter Yarrow makes a 543 00:24:40,740 --> 00:24:42,539 last-minute appeal to make room on the 544 00:24:42,539 --> 00:24:45,000 schedule for one more Act 545 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,940 at this meeting Peter Yarrow got up on 546 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:49,980 his soapbox and he made a speech about 547 00:24:49,980 --> 00:24:53,640 the Butterfield band that this is what's 548 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,880 happening right now this is the most 549 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,820 important band in America today 550 00:24:59,820 --> 00:25:02,460 and yarrow's argument was that with Sam 551 00:25:02,460 --> 00:25:05,700 and Jerome that this was the Revival 552 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:07,860 meeting the authentic 553 00:25:07,860 --> 00:25:11,820 this is where the Folk Festival has to 554 00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:15,360 be in order to be relevant this is the 555 00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,299 summer of 1965. we can't live forever in 556 00:25:18,299 --> 00:25:21,179 the past this is no longer The Province 557 00:25:21,179 --> 00:25:24,679 just of the folkies 558 00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:31,380 oh 559 00:25:31,380 --> 00:25:32,540 laughs 560 00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:35,140 [Applause] 561 00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:51,900 [Music] 562 00:25:51,900 --> 00:25:54,900 so out on stage on this little flat 563 00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:57,539 platform comes Paul Butterfield on 564 00:25:57,539 --> 00:26:00,419 harmonica of course the amazing Michael 565 00:26:00,419 --> 00:26:03,779 Bloomfield on guitar Elven Bishop sort 566 00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:05,520 of undergirding everything with Just 567 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,400 Killer rhythm guitar Sam Leon drums and 568 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,600 Jerome Arnold on bass they just blew our 569 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,260 little folky Minds right right off the 570 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:19,220 charts there's photos somewhere of us 571 00:26:19,220 --> 00:26:22,440 experiencing and reacting to this really 572 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,039 raw really vital Chicago blues sound 573 00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:29,340 just full of power and energy and we 574 00:26:29,340 --> 00:26:32,179 just loved it 575 00:26:35,059 --> 00:26:37,679 I'm probably eight feet away from 576 00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:40,140 Butterfield's Fender amplifier 577 00:26:40,140 --> 00:26:43,880 and he starts in a mellow Down Easy 578 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,260 and I'm like the guy from the Maxell 579 00:26:46,260 --> 00:26:47,880 commercial because I'm in front of 580 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,100 Butters amp and my scarf is like this 581 00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:52,559 and I go oh look at that you know and 582 00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:54,960 and we went electric the next day our 583 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,740 jug bands 584 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,659 everybody 585 00:26:59,659 --> 00:27:03,419 in that time in the 60s anyone who was 586 00:27:03,419 --> 00:27:05,940 at a Folk Festival already was for 587 00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:08,340 integration and him playing in that 588 00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:10,679 integrated band was a statement that 589 00:27:10,679 --> 00:27:12,419 we're all in this together and we all 590 00:27:12,419 --> 00:27:14,159 love this music and we're all going to 591 00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:16,440 hang out together and we're getting rid 592 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,200 of segregation and you just better get 593 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:19,920 used to it 594 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:25,740 [Music] 595 00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:29,520 wait wait time the first time I saw Paul 596 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,140 was at Newport 1965 at the workshop 597 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:37,440 where Alan Lomax introduced the band in 598 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,380 some very demeaning way and I know Lomax 599 00:27:40,380 --> 00:27:42,240 was already muttering and grumbling 600 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,279 about that because he he wasn't very 601 00:27:44,279 --> 00:27:46,200 positive about them and he had you know 602 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,980 Robert Pete Williams and Sun house and a 603 00:27:49,980 --> 00:27:53,659 really great lineup of acoustic black 604 00:27:53,659 --> 00:27:58,140 blues musicians and he did not 605 00:27:58,140 --> 00:28:04,380 like the idea a of drums at Newport 606 00:28:04,380 --> 00:28:07,679 and B of white people playing blues 607 00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:08,880 music 608 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,039 and finally he says okay you've seen the 609 00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:12,900 real thing 610 00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,940 now here's some kids from Chicago going 611 00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:16,980 to come and try 612 00:28:16,980 --> 00:28:19,320 to play the blues 613 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,799 with the help of these amplifiers all 614 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,020 the select all these electric amplifiers 615 00:28:25,020 --> 00:28:28,740 at which point Grossman 616 00:28:28,740 --> 00:28:32,820 is so pissed off he jumps on Alan Lomax 617 00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:35,220 and these two 618 00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:36,779 like 619 00:28:36,779 --> 00:28:39,659 panda bears and personality but grizzly 620 00:28:39,659 --> 00:28:42,240 bears and physique start rolling in the 621 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,120 dirt Together full fisticuffs well the 622 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,039 band was playing throwing roundhouse 623 00:28:47,039 --> 00:28:49,140 punches at each other and then they were 624 00:28:49,140 --> 00:28:50,700 wrestling each other and then they were 625 00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:52,260 rolling around in the dirt 626 00:28:52,260 --> 00:28:55,080 and you know it was lamentable and it 627 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,860 was funny dust flying and these two you 628 00:28:58,860 --> 00:28:59,840 know 629 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,520 Bears or 630 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,340 scuffling and that that really felt good 631 00:29:05,340 --> 00:29:07,440 because that's what a manager ought to 632 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,010 do 633 00:29:09,010 --> 00:29:11,659 [Music] 634 00:29:11,659 --> 00:29:13,679 in the middle of all of this of course 635 00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:15,360 was the fact that we've been told by 636 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:18,600 Grossman that morning 637 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,880 that Dylan was going to play with the 638 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,399 Butterfield Rhythm Section Sam Jerome 639 00:29:23,399 --> 00:29:25,200 and Bloomfield 640 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,620 and Goldberg and Cooper Saturday night 641 00:29:28,620 --> 00:29:30,659 we rehearsed all night 642 00:29:30,659 --> 00:29:33,600 could only get three songs in that time 643 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,419 period And So the plan was that we were 644 00:29:36,419 --> 00:29:38,279 going to go up and play the three songs 645 00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:41,539 because that's all we knew 646 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:50,039 [Music] 647 00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:52,020 it was a mixed reaction from the 648 00:29:52,020 --> 00:29:54,360 audience and a lot of people said they 649 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,760 were Woos you know but there were also 650 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,440 chairs too there were people that did 651 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,720 get it but most of the booze came from 652 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,360 the uh the folkies you know who felt 653 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,399 betrayed you know that Bob had betrayed 654 00:30:05,399 --> 00:30:08,039 them and and they sort of had a sense 655 00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:09,659 that their movement that the folk 656 00:30:09,659 --> 00:30:12,659 movement was on its way out as well 657 00:30:12,659 --> 00:30:14,940 the funny thing is that he wasn't booed 658 00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:17,399 off stage that was the ridiculous part 659 00:30:17,399 --> 00:30:19,620 of it there was maybe two rows of people 660 00:30:19,620 --> 00:30:22,620 in this entire concert which is packed 661 00:30:22,620 --> 00:30:24,299 that were booing because they didn't 662 00:30:24,299 --> 00:30:26,220 want to hear him do electric music they 663 00:30:26,220 --> 00:30:27,600 want to hear him do nothing but folk 664 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,559 music 665 00:30:28,559 --> 00:30:31,799 this whole purist thing that was going 666 00:30:31,799 --> 00:30:34,320 on at that time I mean you know nobody 667 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,960 got upset when Muddy Waters plugged in 668 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,320 his guitar it's just a false barrier 669 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,260 that people who think they know about 670 00:30:43,260 --> 00:30:45,659 this stuff feel they have to pontificate 671 00:30:45,659 --> 00:30:49,679 about it was the Natural Evolution of of 672 00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,500 of of of the earlier blues and it was 673 00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:56,960 absolutely as valid as anything else 674 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,940 the Butterfield Band came up to play the 675 00:31:02,940 --> 00:31:06,000 club 47 right after Newport and at that 676 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:09,480 time we charged a dollar at the door you 677 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,419 could squeeze 110 20 people into that 678 00:31:12,419 --> 00:31:13,260 place 679 00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:15,240 people like Tom Rush are the quest can 680 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,919 Joke Man to those people they would fill 681 00:31:16,919 --> 00:31:20,760 that place and they would get 75 so I 682 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,159 think we were going to pay Paul's band a 683 00:31:23,159 --> 00:31:25,260 hundred dollars a night three hundred 684 00:31:25,260 --> 00:31:27,480 dollars for three nights this was Mike 685 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,860 Bloomfield Elvin Bishop the whole band 686 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:32,760 went down 687 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,260 21 years later of course the volume was 688 00:31:37,260 --> 00:31:39,419 pretty loud not by maybe today's 689 00:31:39,419 --> 00:31:42,120 standards but by that time standard the 690 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,240 Butterfield band had a lot of punch 691 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,539 this band was hitting on all cylinders 692 00:31:48,539 --> 00:31:51,899 and we'd never had anything like it in 693 00:31:51,899 --> 00:31:54,600 that room I was a manager and I had a 694 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,279 little tiny office 695 00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:58,980 and he'd come back into my office and we 696 00:31:58,980 --> 00:32:02,159 had an absolute policy and it was a real 697 00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:05,340 policy too no smoking of dope in this 698 00:32:05,340 --> 00:32:07,320 place can't have it there's no alcohol 699 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,779 there was no dope he'd want to have a 700 00:32:09,779 --> 00:32:11,159 drink you could go across the street 701 00:32:11,159 --> 00:32:13,740 there was a bar and we just couldn't 702 00:32:13,740 --> 00:32:16,500 have it because if we if we get closed 703 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:17,299 down 704 00:32:17,299 --> 00:32:20,220 we just couldn't have it Paul come back 705 00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:21,960 into my office and he closed the door 706 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,899 and said hey man I just I just have to 707 00:32:24,899 --> 00:32:27,120 have something before I go on I said no 708 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,360 Paul we can't do it he was just like a 709 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,399 cat that wouldn't let you go you know 710 00:32:32,399 --> 00:32:34,380 just whining and 711 00:32:34,380 --> 00:32:37,140 at you you know and I finally caved in 712 00:32:37,140 --> 00:32:39,720 you know I okay a couple of Puffs that's 713 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,150 it 714 00:32:41,150 --> 00:32:48,800 [Music] 715 00:32:49,340 --> 00:32:52,919 I played a night with them at the cafe 716 00:32:52,919 --> 00:32:54,179 Gogo 717 00:32:54,179 --> 00:32:56,580 on the sidelines as I used to do at the 718 00:32:56,580 --> 00:32:59,100 twist parties gazing at the kneecaps of 719 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:01,440 the band or lower 720 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,200 and then not long after that I went to 721 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,140 this session and then Paul inducted me 722 00:33:07,140 --> 00:33:08,180 into the band 723 00:33:08,180 --> 00:33:28,080 [Music] 724 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,120 it was after that first record Albert 725 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,860 Grossman came and gave us each a 726 00:33:31,860 --> 00:33:34,100 thousand dollar bill 727 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,559 tremendously impressive 728 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:39,659 Paul's band that first album that really 729 00:33:39,659 --> 00:33:42,179 took off that opened the market up a lot 730 00:33:42,179 --> 00:33:44,640 to a lot of young white kids who hadn't 731 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,919 really heard the blues because once you 732 00:33:46,919 --> 00:33:49,440 heard Paul you wanted to hear the other 733 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,600 guys muddy and wolf and you got easily 734 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,460 pulled into it 735 00:33:53,460 --> 00:33:56,460 foreign 736 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,090 [Music] 737 00:34:02,090 --> 00:34:04,420 [Laughter] 738 00:34:04,420 --> 00:34:07,519 [Music] 739 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,839 came from a wealthy family and one of 740 00:34:12,839 --> 00:34:15,119 his uncles had a pawn shop and I used to 741 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:18,240 not have any money so I'd get my guitar 742 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:19,980 as cheap as I could I go to the pawn 743 00:34:19,980 --> 00:34:20,700 shop 744 00:34:20,700 --> 00:34:22,740 and I went to one on Clark Street one 745 00:34:22,740 --> 00:34:24,960 time and it was kind of smart ass 746 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,700 looking kid behind the counter you know 747 00:34:26,700 --> 00:34:28,800 and I said can I see that guitar 748 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,200 he hands to me and I start playing My 749 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,820 Little Blues Licks a few of them you 750 00:34:32,820 --> 00:34:35,099 know he said you like Blues 751 00:34:35,099 --> 00:34:37,619 I said yeah he said give me that thing 752 00:34:37,619 --> 00:34:39,599 he starts playing rings around the world 753 00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:41,399 you know he's playing all these fancy 754 00:34:41,399 --> 00:34:43,320 licks and stuff I said oh wow that's 755 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,780 great you know he'd get in your face and 756 00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:47,339 he'd just be spitting on you while he 757 00:34:47,339 --> 00:34:49,020 was talking and stuff you know he's he 758 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:51,020 he was just uh 759 00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:54,540 tremendously active mind and uh 760 00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:56,879 really intense about everything he did 761 00:34:56,879 --> 00:34:59,339 not just the plan everything 762 00:34:59,339 --> 00:35:01,920 Michael was always intimidated by Paul 763 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680 his personality was so strong and you 764 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,599 really couldn't get you know underneath 765 00:35:06,599 --> 00:35:08,520 Paul and get to know him well you know 766 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:10,440 he really didn't let people in that much 767 00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:13,500 just his presence alone was a tough guy 768 00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:16,079 black leather jacket a Beer Drinker he 769 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,540 was a complete man or the real deal 770 00:35:18,540 --> 00:35:20,339 see I had never worked with Paul for a 771 00:35:20,339 --> 00:35:22,079 long time because I never figured we'd 772 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,119 get along personality wise you know 773 00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:25,920 because Paul is a very very hard guy 774 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,520 period just a hard individual he's very 775 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,079 rock hard inside his body and everything 776 00:35:31,079 --> 00:35:34,380 he has completely taken that harmonica 777 00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:37,140 and reworked it in my opinion 778 00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:39,900 Butterfield is the finest the finest 779 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:42,060 blues harmonica player in the world and 780 00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:43,380 this is the first gig I've ever worked 781 00:35:43,380 --> 00:35:45,599 with Paul and I tell you man you hear 782 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:47,400 this band after this two-month tour 783 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,380 there won't be a blues band in the 784 00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:50,460 history of the world that's going to 785 00:35:50,460 --> 00:35:53,119 come near this band 786 00:35:55,339 --> 00:35:59,599 I met Bloomfield on Highway 61 sessions 787 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:04,380 for uh Dylan and he told me as we got 788 00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:07,680 friendly that he was in Paul's band and 789 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,200 that was one of the reasons why he 790 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,599 didn't want a tour with Dylan so he 791 00:36:12,599 --> 00:36:15,540 could stay in Paul's band he said you 792 00:36:15,540 --> 00:36:17,760 make all kinds of money and you know 793 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:22,320 being cover of Newsweek he said but I 794 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,839 just want to play the blues 795 00:36:24,839 --> 00:36:26,880 says and I'm having a great time doing 796 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,560 it in this band 797 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,780 you turned down Bob Dylan to play with 798 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:32,700 Butterfield it's about as good as you 799 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:35,000 can get 800 00:36:42,540 --> 00:36:45,359 Paul would appear in New York City 801 00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:48,540 usually at a club called Cafe a go go we 802 00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:49,920 would always get there early and we 803 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,720 would sit like right in the front row 804 00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:54,000 and we'd do that night after night show 805 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,180 after show we just played you know that 806 00:36:57,180 --> 00:36:59,220 was it I think that that's probably when 807 00:36:59,220 --> 00:37:01,020 he was complete you know is when he was 808 00:37:01,020 --> 00:37:03,720 up there eyes closed 809 00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,099 flow on that perfect note 810 00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:13,200 [Music] 811 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,240 and there's that Soul there that is 812 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:16,560 pouring out of everything everything 813 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,140 that Paul did it's not about how good or 814 00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:21,060 how not good or technique or this the 815 00:37:21,060 --> 00:37:22,859 thing that to me makes Paul different is 816 00:37:22,859 --> 00:37:25,440 there's always this edge of Soul that's 817 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:26,940 always happening no matter whether he's 818 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:28,740 singing or playing 819 00:37:28,740 --> 00:37:30,480 and another thing you know Paul played 820 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:31,980 the harmonica upside down a lot of 821 00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:33,839 people didn't know that you know where 822 00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:35,220 instead of the low notes on the left 823 00:37:35,220 --> 00:37:36,540 they were on the right 824 00:37:36,540 --> 00:37:39,900 Paul did it different that band was the 825 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:42,220 most powerful band I've ever heard 826 00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:44,880 [Music] 827 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,680 I played another extended engagement it 828 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,540 was in a place called The Unicorn and 829 00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:50,040 this was in Boston 830 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,780 Sam got sick 831 00:37:51,780 --> 00:37:54,180 and that's when you got Billy Davenport 832 00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:57,660 and he was quite logically as a black 833 00:37:57,660 --> 00:37:59,700 man concerned about what he was going to 834 00:37:59,700 --> 00:38:03,180 confront as he traveled America and he 835 00:38:03,180 --> 00:38:04,500 told me 836 00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:06,960 that Paul said to him 837 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,960 for you can't go we won't go 838 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,180 but he was proud of it and he it meant 839 00:38:12,180 --> 00:38:13,619 something to him that he got that 840 00:38:13,619 --> 00:38:15,720 guarantee and it says something about 841 00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:17,520 Paul 842 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:23,339 [Music] 843 00:38:23,339 --> 00:38:25,500 there was a climate in the band a 844 00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:27,540 musical climate that was now opening up 845 00:38:27,540 --> 00:38:29,640 musicians were taking on some of the 846 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,440 attributes of jazz musicians and play 847 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,460 more extended things and experimenting 848 00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:42,949 [Music] 849 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:49,200 in 1966 America is a cauldron of social 850 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,359 and political change fueled in large 851 00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:53,940 part by the music of the times the 852 00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:55,680 Butterfield Blues band's sprawling 853 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,380 tapestry of an LP called East West with 854 00:38:58,380 --> 00:39:00,240 its combination of Electric Blues and 855 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,520 psychedelic Rock puts the band at the 856 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,040 Forefront of the music scene clocking in 857 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,740 at a nearly unprecedented 13 minutes the 858 00:39:07,740 --> 00:39:09,320 title track is a pioneering 859 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,119 cross-cultural Opus near mythical 860 00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:13,859 accounts of live performances of 861 00:39:13,859 --> 00:39:16,020 East-West lasting over 40 minutes and 862 00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:18,540 leaving fans transfixed reverberate 863 00:39:18,540 --> 00:39:20,579 throughout the international rock music 864 00:39:20,579 --> 00:39:23,060 community 865 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:27,540 they started doing East-West and and 866 00:39:27,540 --> 00:39:29,700 messing with different modes to play and 867 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:31,859 so that it sounds more Middle Eastern or 868 00:39:31,859 --> 00:39:33,420 something like that you know the fact 869 00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:35,460 that he wasn't satisfied just to be one 870 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:37,079 of the world's best blues hard players 871 00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,540 you know he didn't lock himself in a box 872 00:39:39,540 --> 00:39:42,510 he just kept taking it further 873 00:39:42,510 --> 00:39:49,560 [Music] 874 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,780 Bloomfield used to do a fire eating 875 00:39:51,780 --> 00:39:53,820 routine he'd do that he'd get one of 876 00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:55,200 these things like uh 877 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,180 looks like the Mallet you play The 878 00:39:57,180 --> 00:39:59,400 Kettle drum with you know they squirt 879 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,740 lighter fluid on it light it up spread 880 00:40:01,740 --> 00:40:03,300 his legs out and that Groove would be 881 00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:05,640 going you know behind him and he'd lean 882 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,099 way back and eat fire and those old 883 00:40:08,099 --> 00:40:09,900 Stoned Out hippies would just lose their 884 00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,360 minds 885 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:24,000 [Music] 886 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,339 so here we are in Chicago at the Museum 887 00:40:26,339 --> 00:40:28,500 of Science and Industry 888 00:40:28,500 --> 00:40:31,980 this is the photo shot of my father's 889 00:40:31,980 --> 00:40:36,300 iconic album this is the cover of the 890 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:39,540 second album East West you had Jerome 891 00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:42,960 Arnold Elvin Bishop Mark naphtalin Billy 892 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,200 Davenport Michael Bloomfield and Paul 893 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,400 Butterfield 894 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,040 this is a museum this is a really really 895 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,040 odd place for a cover of a blues album 896 00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,280 Maybe the fact that they actually got up 897 00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,060 here and took these photos here uh is 898 00:41:00,060 --> 00:41:02,339 expressing that band as someone who 899 00:41:02,339 --> 00:41:04,859 means business and saying hey baby we're 900 00:41:04,859 --> 00:41:06,720 not what you think we are 901 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,900 oh I mean the authenticity was just 902 00:41:09,900 --> 00:41:11,880 astonishing and playing through that 903 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,400 amplifier and the tonality and the 904 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,140 choices that he made were so 905 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:18,119 unconventional and so you know 906 00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:20,880 Innovative I think that Paul was an 907 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,680 incredible creative spirit and always 908 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,480 kept stretching you know I mean as deep 909 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,220 as he would go into the roots he was 910 00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:28,260 always pushing the envelope of what 911 00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:30,599 Blues could be greater Ranger put 912 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,700 together an incredible band those guys 913 00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:34,200 wouldn't play with him if he wasn't that 914 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,160 badass 915 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,960 I had lots and lots of Hard players 916 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,359 sitting with me and nobody could blow 917 00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:42,000 like butter and I loved his singing as 918 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,680 much as I loved his heart plan 919 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,440 you know he's cute too as us girls like 920 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,940 to call him 921 00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:50,579 Butterfield was very funny and had a 922 00:41:50,579 --> 00:41:52,619 very dry sense of humor and it kind of 923 00:41:52,619 --> 00:41:55,020 was smart ass wise-ass sense of humor 924 00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:57,960 too I remember remarking on Sam Lay's 925 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,839 shoes which were kind of metallic and 926 00:42:00,839 --> 00:42:03,119 they were kind of like had little glass 927 00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,339 crystals in the shoes and Paul said 928 00:42:05,339 --> 00:42:07,800 don't get too close to him he uses those 929 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,200 to just put his his foot and look up 930 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,740 your skirt 931 00:42:12,740 --> 00:42:15,359 and I don't know if it was true but I 932 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:19,260 believed Paul at the time oh 933 00:42:19,260 --> 00:42:21,540 oh butter could be a little bit of a 934 00:42:21,540 --> 00:42:23,880 dirty dog from time to time and 935 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,680 Rothschild had some kind of legal 936 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:27,960 troubles involving uh weed which is 937 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,060 pretty serious in those days you know 938 00:42:30,060 --> 00:42:32,520 and we're doing a session in New York 939 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:33,359 City 940 00:42:33,359 --> 00:42:35,280 and everybody took off for lunch and 941 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,540 went out to get something to eat and 942 00:42:36,540 --> 00:42:37,859 Rothschild stayed there and he was 943 00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:40,140 fooling with the tapes you know and the 944 00:42:40,140 --> 00:42:41,880 faders and he was at the console and 945 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,740 everything drinking a milkshake 946 00:42:43,740 --> 00:42:45,720 and Butterfield came back and knocked 947 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,480 real loud on the doors at police 948 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,060 a Rothschild freaked out and Spilled his 949 00:42:51,060 --> 00:42:54,350 milkshake in the console 950 00:42:54,350 --> 00:42:57,530 [Music] 951 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,440 I will say I'm very proud 952 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,260 as the owner of the famous 953 00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:05,940 Golden Bear 954 00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:09,480 woke up this morning I looked round for 955 00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:10,560 my shoes 956 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,520 in August of 1966 I booked them only for 957 00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:18,480 one week but they stayed for two and I 958 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,339 enjoy it very much 959 00:43:20,339 --> 00:43:24,660 that was 20 Souls 350 people 960 00:43:24,660 --> 00:43:29,040 and still the place was parked this is 961 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,099 unbelievable George yeah he was cool 962 00:43:32,099 --> 00:43:35,339 George a Greek guy I used to go fishing 963 00:43:35,339 --> 00:43:37,619 at that Pier across the street from the 964 00:43:37,619 --> 00:43:40,440 Golden Bear and bring it back and George 965 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,020 would cook it in the pizza oven you know 966 00:43:43,020 --> 00:43:46,440 we fought by their feet I had 967 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,200 the perfect opening up 968 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,200 the comedian Steve Martin 969 00:43:54,860 --> 00:43:59,520 [Music] 970 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,839 so I went to day with my 971 00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:06,060 one of my college roommates we were 972 00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:07,560 going up the stairs to their apartment 973 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,599 and Paul was coming down the stairs with 974 00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,520 a laundry basket 975 00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,400 and we sort of met on the staircase and 976 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,900 then sort of moved back down to the 977 00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:18,060 sidewalk and we just started talking and 978 00:44:18,060 --> 00:44:21,000 talking and talking and talking and he 979 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,000 had a new album he wanted me to hear and 980 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,760 so he went and put it on and it was the 981 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,800 Beatles well he kept playing me the song 982 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,619 called got to get you into my life 983 00:44:31,619 --> 00:44:35,099 sorry it was a hint 984 00:44:35,099 --> 00:44:38,579 I just had turned 21. he was only 23. 985 00:44:38,579 --> 00:44:40,440 because I was on the road with them for 986 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:42,839 probably three years like 987 00:44:42,839 --> 00:44:44,220 people would say how long is your tour 988 00:44:44,220 --> 00:44:46,740 and I go I don't know it's been going on 989 00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:50,040 for 340 days I mean we used to look at a 990 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,619 match box in the drawer of the hotel to 991 00:44:52,619 --> 00:44:54,599 see where we were 992 00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,300 it was like going from box to box to box 993 00:44:57,300 --> 00:44:58,920 you're in an airplane you're in a car 994 00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:00,359 you're in a hotel you're at the gig 995 00:45:00,359 --> 00:45:02,040 you're at the hotel you're in a car 996 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,599 you're in an airplane you're in a train 997 00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:06,599 you're just living in a box in a box in 998 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,280 a box in a box in a box and you're just 999 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,720 so disorienting you don't even know 1000 00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:11,460 where you are and these guys are just 1001 00:45:11,460 --> 00:45:14,040 working working hard every single day 1002 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:17,040 foreign 1003 00:45:18,780 --> 00:45:21,180 Kathy and Paul and the band spent all of 1004 00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:24,000 1966 on the road playing at colleges 1005 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,119 clubs and concert Halls the band has a 1006 00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:29,099 huge following in San Francisco thanks 1007 00:45:29,099 --> 00:45:31,200 to concert promoter and impresario Bill 1008 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,240 Graham who books them into multiple 1009 00:45:33,240 --> 00:45:35,220 venues during each visit 1010 00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:37,440 and Graham's growing friendships with 1011 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,359 Paul and Michael Bloomfield would bring 1012 00:45:39,359 --> 00:45:42,900 additional benefits when Michael and 1013 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:45,920 Paul left Chicago went to San Francisco 1014 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,260 they had recommended to Bill Graham to 1015 00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:51,480 get artists like Howling Wolf and muddy 1016 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,359 and Little Walter James Cotton to come 1017 00:45:54,359 --> 00:45:57,960 to California so that even opened a 1018 00:45:57,960 --> 00:46:00,440 greater audience for all these artists 1019 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,819 that gave the blues artists an 1020 00:46:02,819 --> 00:46:04,500 opportunity to play someplace besides 1021 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:06,060 clubs 1022 00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:09,500 better paying gigs 1023 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,260 Paul was really heartbroken when Michael 1024 00:46:16,260 --> 00:46:18,180 left 1025 00:46:18,180 --> 00:46:20,339 Paul was like no we've got a good thing 1026 00:46:20,339 --> 00:46:22,560 going let's keep up with this you know 1027 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,660 this is really a great combo 1028 00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:26,220 so it was hard 1029 00:46:26,220 --> 00:46:28,260 I got to play more lead 1030 00:46:28,260 --> 00:46:31,500 I liked that and I was I was I'd say 1031 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:33,240 quite a bit more ready than I would have 1032 00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:37,579 been you know at the beginning 1033 00:46:37,930 --> 00:46:41,870 [Music] 1034 00:46:42,060 --> 00:46:44,720 foreign 1035 00:46:44,860 --> 00:46:54,000 [Music] 1036 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,520 Paul played a great set 1037 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,200 at Monterey 1038 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,980 that was sort of his big debut of hordes 1039 00:47:01,980 --> 00:47:04,859 and he had good horn players 1040 00:47:04,859 --> 00:47:08,520 Gene Dunwoody the tenor player and Keith 1041 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,880 Johnson the trumpet player came in 1042 00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,420 and Bugsy mom came in 1043 00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:31,010 [Music] 1044 00:47:31,010 --> 00:47:35,730 [Applause] 1045 00:47:35,730 --> 00:47:39,409 [Music] 1046 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:44,280 summer of 67 my wife and I and young 1047 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,520 baby went out to San Francisco never 1048 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,740 been west of the Mississippi I run into 1049 00:47:49,740 --> 00:47:51,599 Phillip Wilson my friend a drummer 1050 00:47:51,599 --> 00:47:54,180 totally by accident on the street I go 1051 00:47:54,180 --> 00:47:55,740 Phillip what what are you what are you 1052 00:47:55,740 --> 00:47:57,660 doing here and he said well I just 1053 00:47:57,660 --> 00:47:59,400 joined this band The Butterfield blues 1054 00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,079 band he said well we're playing at the 1055 00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:01,920 Fillmore 1056 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:04,200 so come on now it's right I came down I 1057 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,119 heard the band play met the guys in the 1058 00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:09,540 band went went the next night 1059 00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:11,880 and uh Philip said hey man we're going 1060 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,410 down to La we're going to make a record 1061 00:48:13,410 --> 00:48:21,599 [Music] 1062 00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,540 basically hitchhike to Hollywood got to 1063 00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:27,420 the Sandy koufax's Tropicana Hotel you 1064 00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:28,800 know I'm hanging out in the studio and 1065 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,079 Paul says hey man where's your horn I 1066 00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:33,119 said well it's back at the hotel he said 1067 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:34,380 why don't you go get it and maybe you 1068 00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:37,380 can play a little bit so I'm like holy 1069 00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:38,579 [ __ ] 1070 00:48:38,579 --> 00:48:41,579 I sit in Paul likes the sound of it I 1071 00:48:41,579 --> 00:48:42,690 was in Show Business 1072 00:48:42,690 --> 00:48:49,900 [Music] 1073 00:48:52,300 --> 00:49:01,980 [Music] 1074 00:49:01,980 --> 00:49:03,960 and life people move on 1075 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,780 everybody's band changes that's just 1076 00:49:06,780 --> 00:49:09,119 part of being in a band 1077 00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:10,680 New Life 1078 00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,680 it was all Peaceable no hard feelings 1079 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,960 between anybody butter didn't want me to 1080 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,060 leave but I did because 1081 00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:21,420 you play one or two songs you know the 1082 00:49:21,420 --> 00:49:25,440 the Dynamics of band getting along is 1083 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,079 you got to give everybody a little piece 1084 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,300 of the action you know so you get to do 1085 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:32,099 one or two songs a night that are really 1086 00:49:32,099 --> 00:49:34,740 close to your heart you know 1087 00:49:34,740 --> 00:49:36,780 and then the idea starts working on you 1088 00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:38,880 what if I got to do all songs that are 1089 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,520 real close to my heart you know and it 1090 00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,380 works and it works and it works and 1091 00:49:43,380 --> 00:49:46,319 after a while the desire to do that 1092 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:48,599 overcomes the fear of leaving and there 1093 00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:50,140 you go 1094 00:49:50,140 --> 00:50:02,680 [Music] 1095 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,910 [Applause] 1096 00:50:03,910 --> 00:50:08,080 [Music] 1097 00:50:13,020 --> 00:50:16,020 foreign 1098 00:50:16,090 --> 00:50:18,230 [Applause] 1099 00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:44,510 [Music] 1100 00:50:44,819 --> 00:50:47,819 the sound was ferocious 1101 00:50:47,819 --> 00:50:50,040 I mean I I have 1102 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,980 never before or after 1103 00:50:52,980 --> 00:50:56,579 sound like that ever he was a force of 1104 00:50:56,579 --> 00:50:59,220 nature on that instrument everybody else 1105 00:50:59,220 --> 00:51:01,440 sounded just kind of timid it's almost 1106 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,400 like a snarl he had he just went for it 1107 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,460 you know and I think that was 1108 00:51:08,460 --> 00:51:12,420 really inspiring to me as a player it 1109 00:51:12,420 --> 00:51:15,540 was my introduction to the idea that 1110 00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:17,520 it's better to reach for something and 1111 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,760 miss it than just to hold back and play 1112 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,240 it safe 1113 00:51:25,110 --> 00:51:27,300 [Music] 1114 00:51:27,300 --> 00:51:29,579 I am 1115 00:51:29,579 --> 00:51:31,260 Paul Butterfield never played the same 1116 00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:33,180 thing twice nor did the band play the 1117 00:51:33,180 --> 00:51:35,579 same way twice the whole thing about 1118 00:51:35,579 --> 00:51:37,740 playing for the moment is that you could 1119 00:51:37,740 --> 00:51:40,559 do the same song a million times and a 1120 00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:41,940 million times it's going to be different 1121 00:51:41,940 --> 00:51:44,220 because you're not being generic about 1122 00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:46,980 it that's what makes an artist an artist 1123 00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:52,140 he lived breathed ate and spoke music 1124 00:51:52,140 --> 00:51:54,000 I mean English was really his second 1125 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,760 language music was his first language 1126 00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,260 and so that's how he communicated with 1127 00:52:01,260 --> 00:52:03,559 the world 1128 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:08,240 all aboard 1129 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,420 Fathers and Sons 1130 00:52:11,420 --> 00:52:14,819 1969. we decided to do half of it in the 1131 00:52:14,819 --> 00:52:17,940 studio three days of studio and then 1132 00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:20,579 that live concert the concert was great 1133 00:52:20,579 --> 00:52:22,500 it was in this just restored classical 1134 00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:25,440 music hall in Chicago the Chicago 1135 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,800 Auditorium this was a chance to feature 1136 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,599 the great Muddy Waters 1137 00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:33,359 and it was a way to pay them back 1138 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:35,520 we thought it was our duty 1139 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,359 our job to make sure that we paid back 1140 00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:41,940 what we learned from these guys 1141 00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:44,280 that's what that Fathers and Sons was 1142 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,859 all about being homage to Moody 1143 00:52:46,859 --> 00:52:48,780 saying you're the father we're the sons 1144 00:52:48,780 --> 00:52:51,960 you treated us good dad 1145 00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,859 was Paul's mentor and guide and he was 1146 00:52:55,859 --> 00:52:57,839 like a second dad to him 1147 00:52:57,839 --> 00:53:01,319 musically you brought him up 1148 00:53:01,319 --> 00:53:03,720 the concert was great it was rocking and 1149 00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:05,579 jumping it was really that first people 1150 00:53:05,579 --> 00:53:08,640 from Big John's it was all those those 1151 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,559 thousands of people who over the months 1152 00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,540 and years had gone to Big John's they 1153 00:53:12,540 --> 00:53:14,400 were at that concert man every single 1154 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,440 one of them was at that concert you know 1155 00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,380 the blues guys just loved this influx of 1156 00:53:19,380 --> 00:53:21,300 the White Market buying it the white 1157 00:53:21,300 --> 00:53:24,620 kids playing it the blues was moving on 1158 00:53:24,620 --> 00:53:31,720 [Music] 1159 00:53:32,780 --> 00:53:35,880 everybody's radar was up in that band 1160 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,800 everybody was listening to everybody 1161 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:38,940 else 1162 00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:41,400 it wasn't planned it was like everyone 1163 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,339 was channeling this creative force and 1164 00:53:44,339 --> 00:53:46,980 Butterfield was the guy you know he was 1165 00:53:46,980 --> 00:53:49,800 the guy that set the tone you know he 1166 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:51,900 was like we're going for it because 1167 00:53:51,900 --> 00:53:54,000 that's where he came from he came from 1168 00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,160 south side of Chicago where it was about 1169 00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:58,920 I'll kick your ass every time he stepped 1170 00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:00,900 up the microphone he played like it was 1171 00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,000 the last time he was ever going to play 1172 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,300 he was a real blues guy you know he 1173 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:08,339 meant it every time come on I mean if 1174 00:54:08,339 --> 00:54:11,040 you listen to his playing it's just pure 1175 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:12,839 you know you wonder how does a guy get 1176 00:54:12,839 --> 00:54:15,180 that out of a little Marine band 1177 00:54:15,180 --> 00:54:16,980 harmonica you know I mean that's special 1178 00:54:16,980 --> 00:54:18,000 stuff 1179 00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:19,920 the horn parts were put together by just 1180 00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,260 sitting down and playing that band got 1181 00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:24,300 to the point when one person played a 1182 00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:26,160 part that was good all the other parts 1183 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,500 fell into place immediately it was kind 1184 00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:30,839 of a magical band who was magical that 1185 00:54:30,839 --> 00:54:32,880 band was one of the first if not the 1186 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,160 first mixed band where it was true 1187 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:37,140 equality in that band there was no 1188 00:54:37,140 --> 00:54:40,079 racial anything we ended up in 1189 00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,000 situations that were in parts of the 1190 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,200 country for instance when we were 1191 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,480 Touring that didn't see it like that you 1192 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,520 know like blacks are not accepted 1193 00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,680 everywhere and to see a mixed ban 1194 00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,960 especially guys with long hair and 1195 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,540 hanging with black guys we were really a 1196 00:54:54,540 --> 00:54:56,640 threat they looked at us like Communists 1197 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,099 there were some near physical 1198 00:54:59,099 --> 00:55:01,079 confrontations with Butterfield because 1199 00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:02,760 he would get in people's face you know 1200 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,380 they would vibe us or they'd make a 1201 00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:07,140 comment you know like uh [ __ ] and all 1202 00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:09,000 that and he would get right in their 1203 00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,680 face and say [ __ ] let's go 1204 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,839 outside right now come on let's go you 1205 00:55:12,839 --> 00:55:15,119 know and so you know we had to kind of 1206 00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,339 drag him out of a few places you know 1207 00:55:17,339 --> 00:55:19,500 where where it was like that so he 1208 00:55:19,500 --> 00:55:22,020 really stood up for what he believed in 1209 00:55:22,020 --> 00:55:25,619 he had gifts he had brilliant beautiful 1210 00:55:25,619 --> 00:55:28,260 gifts and and because of those gifts he 1211 00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:30,900 changed the world for many people 1212 00:55:30,900 --> 00:55:33,540 helping to bring that Blues out to the 1213 00:55:33,540 --> 00:55:35,940 rest of the world when the African 1214 00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:37,619 Americans weren't able to do that it 1215 00:55:37,619 --> 00:55:39,300 wasn't a welcoming 1216 00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:40,920 place 1217 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,200 I thought I don't give a damn you played 1218 00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,599 right I don't care what color you have a 1219 00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:47,700 pink stripe running down down back if 1220 00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:49,079 you want to yeah 1221 00:55:49,079 --> 00:55:52,260 I am bragging on our on us but I didn't 1222 00:55:52,260 --> 00:55:54,960 see nobody else was better and we 1223 00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,860 happened to be black and white 1224 00:55:56,860 --> 00:56:04,079 [Music] 1225 00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:06,059 most people don't realize that Woodstock 1226 00:56:06,059 --> 00:56:07,680 started as an artist colony in about 1227 00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,200 1903 and 1228 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,260 um it was established as a utopian arts 1229 00:56:13,260 --> 00:56:15,440 and crafts Community but around the 1230 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,079 1960s is when it kind of came into its 1231 00:56:19,079 --> 00:56:21,420 own before the actual big Woodstock 1232 00:56:21,420 --> 00:56:23,359 festival that everybody knows about 1233 00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:25,920 petiero had a family house here and 1234 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,380 through him Albert Grossman came with 1235 00:56:28,380 --> 00:56:31,380 his stable of artists so of course Peter 1236 00:56:31,380 --> 00:56:34,380 Paul and Mary and later Bob Dylan and 1237 00:56:34,380 --> 00:56:36,119 Paul of course was one of those people 1238 00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:38,880 that came along with Albert 1239 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,980 sometimes it felt like someone just 1240 00:56:40,980 --> 00:56:43,920 dropped some kind of pill and watered it 1241 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:44,640 and 1242 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,800 you know a different Woodstock popped up 1243 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:49,619 overnight seemingly you know and it was 1244 00:56:49,619 --> 00:56:52,020 very exciting especially for someone 1245 00:56:52,020 --> 00:56:54,900 like myself who's young and loving music 1246 00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:57,180 and all of a sudden you know there's 1247 00:56:57,180 --> 00:56:59,339 head shops there's leather shops you 1248 00:56:59,339 --> 00:57:01,079 know no more electric stores now it's 1249 00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:04,380 the the leather shop you know the 1250 00:57:04,380 --> 00:57:06,980 Practical kind of went out the window 1251 00:57:06,980 --> 00:57:09,660 and the Magical 1252 00:57:09,660 --> 00:57:10,980 came in 1253 00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:12,839 and one of the people writing that 1254 00:57:12,839 --> 00:57:14,760 artistic and musical way was Paul 1255 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,300 Butterfield 1256 00:57:25,859 --> 00:57:28,079 Paul bought a house up the road from my 1257 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,240 folks at a little Farmhouse and a barn 1258 00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,480 Paul was well known as a Blues musician 1259 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:36,000 but he didn't have any affect about him 1260 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,859 ever he fit in well with the local 1261 00:57:37,859 --> 00:57:40,740 people he was our neighbor 1262 00:57:40,740 --> 00:57:42,839 and it was a true neighbor we had 1263 00:57:42,839 --> 00:57:45,420 barbecues we had them for brunch and 1264 00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:47,880 breakfast we went to his place he was a 1265 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,260 great cook by the way 1266 00:57:49,260 --> 00:57:52,079 he made a barbecue ribs with a mustard 1267 00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:53,819 sauce that was out in his world he told 1268 00:57:53,819 --> 00:57:55,619 me someday he would give me the recipe 1269 00:57:55,619 --> 00:57:56,940 he never did 1270 00:57:56,940 --> 00:57:59,280 I worked at night now when he saw my 1271 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:00,540 light on 1272 00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:03,180 he would pull in the driveway and I gave 1273 00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:05,640 him the nickname The Moth because of 1274 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:09,119 that and as a result he would come in we 1275 00:58:09,119 --> 00:58:11,880 had to stand up upright piano at the 1276 00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:14,099 time and he'd start playing right away 1277 00:58:14,099 --> 00:58:16,140 and I'd get some commemorative form his 1278 00:58:16,140 --> 00:58:19,559 favorite tequila and we'd have a little 1279 00:58:19,559 --> 00:58:21,960 midnight not midnight two three o'clock 1280 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,480 in the morning session Paul came in with 1281 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,940 his uh a big horn band with Dave Sanborn 1282 00:58:26,940 --> 00:58:29,579 Gene did witty uh Phillip Wilson I 1283 00:58:29,579 --> 00:58:31,740 believe on drums and there was a time 1284 00:58:31,740 --> 00:58:33,720 when Paul and that band played at the 1285 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,180 cafe espresso and Woodstock on Wednesday 1286 00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:37,920 nights they sort of like did it like a 1287 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:40,630 rehearsal it was just phenomenal 1288 00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:53,929 [Music] 1289 00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:57,180 Paul had an idyllic life in bearsville 1290 00:58:57,180 --> 00:59:00,240 in the early 70s he was a successful 1291 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,359 performer a successful band a successful 1292 00:59:03,359 --> 00:59:05,579 record and everything was looking up for 1293 00:59:05,579 --> 00:59:08,579 him he had a beautiful wife Kathy and 1294 00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:10,980 they had a beautiful child Lee and he 1295 00:59:10,980 --> 00:59:13,559 was another happy bouncing blonde baby 1296 00:59:13,559 --> 00:59:18,000 boy and he had Albert the own Bears film 1297 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,960 he found Paula's property 1298 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,680 he had a beautiful Barn Old Red Barn was 1299 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,599 painted beautifully 1300 00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:29,760 where I took those pictures of him 1301 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,540 mowing along they belong took a lot of 1302 00:59:33,540 --> 00:59:36,359 work you know this is the American dream 1303 00:59:36,359 --> 00:59:39,000 and I've never seen him happier 1304 00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,940 the whole situation was very nice 1305 00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:43,799 you know when we lived in Woodstock we 1306 00:59:43,799 --> 00:59:46,619 had horses we had dogs we had cats we 1307 00:59:46,619 --> 00:59:48,780 had all this stuff we had an organic 1308 00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:50,940 farm we had 1309 00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:52,920 we had so many tomatoes we'd stand at 1310 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,660 the back door and throw them out after I 1311 00:59:54,660 --> 00:59:56,280 made ketchup and tomato sauce and 1312 00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,260 everything else I could think of we had 1313 00:59:58,260 --> 01:00:00,540 11 and a half acres and a stream that 1314 01:00:00,540 --> 01:00:03,059 ran through our property you know these 1315 01:00:03,059 --> 01:00:06,119 beautiful horses we had this raccoon she 1316 01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:08,040 used to like lie in her back and Pull 1317 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,140 and scratch her tummy and play with her 1318 01:00:10,140 --> 01:00:11,900 and everything was like an art project 1319 01:00:11,900 --> 01:00:14,400 you know one of the best memories that I 1320 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,940 have of Paul is when he came to do a 1321 01:00:17,940 --> 01:00:19,920 session with us at the bearsville 1322 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,319 studios when we put together this group 1323 01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:23,700 called The Woodstock mountains review 1324 01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:25,799 and he came up was the middle of a 1325 01:00:25,799 --> 01:00:28,140 snowstorm and he walked in and he went 1326 01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:30,720 into the studio at bearsville with John 1327 01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:33,420 Sebastian and the two of them pulled out 1328 01:00:33,420 --> 01:00:36,440 their harmonicas and it is the most 1329 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,839 beyond belief version of Amazing Grace 1330 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:42,839 with just the two of them as a harmonica 1331 01:00:42,839 --> 01:00:44,880 duet and I don't know if they had ever 1332 01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:46,920 played it together before but it was so 1333 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:48,900 perfect and we were all sitting there 1334 01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:52,559 just completely open mouth and silenced 1335 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:55,980 by this incredible thing and then it was 1336 01:00:55,980 --> 01:00:56,819 over 1337 01:00:56,819 --> 01:00:58,500 Paul got in his Jeep and went back down 1338 01:00:58,500 --> 01:00:59,750 the mountain 1339 01:00:59,750 --> 01:01:07,500 [Music] 1340 01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,500 foreign 1341 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,079 Paul was one of the more what I call 1342 01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:21,900 generous musicians to play with he would 1343 01:01:21,900 --> 01:01:24,180 do a solo but he would also set you up 1344 01:01:24,180 --> 01:01:26,940 it was just like come on let's play you 1345 01:01:26,940 --> 01:01:29,880 know let's have a conversation together 1346 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,619 it was Paul that first encouraged me to 1347 01:01:34,619 --> 01:01:37,619 let my Blues voice out and he would just 1348 01:01:37,619 --> 01:01:39,599 tell me don't worry about sounding 1349 01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:43,440 pretty or like singing Fancy Blues Licks 1350 01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,920 or anything just let your voice out and 1351 01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,559 so that was so encouraging I I to this 1352 01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:52,859 day I I have him to thank because now 1353 01:01:52,859 --> 01:01:55,559 many years later I have a blues voice 1354 01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:57,780 and can that's how I've always wanted to 1355 01:01:57,780 --> 01:01:59,880 express myself and he was the first 1356 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,099 person to give me permission and 1357 01:02:02,099 --> 01:02:05,400 encouragement to do that 1358 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:08,400 foreign 1359 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,960 Paul was always a historian as well as 1360 01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,380 just a straight musician he revered the 1361 01:02:16,380 --> 01:02:18,420 people who came before him and that he 1362 01:02:18,420 --> 01:02:20,700 learned from Paul talked about the 1363 01:02:20,700 --> 01:02:23,280 harmonica players that he loved on a 1364 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,319 series of instructional cassettes that 1365 01:02:25,319 --> 01:02:28,500 we made now on CDs hi this is Paul 1366 01:02:28,500 --> 01:02:29,880 Butterfield 1367 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,339 I'd like to help bring some new insights 1368 01:02:32,339 --> 01:02:34,440 into the harmonica if I could 1369 01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,380 those notes can be used in so many 1370 01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:38,760 different ways in so many different 1371 01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:40,980 colors they're just beautiful colors to 1372 01:02:40,980 --> 01:02:43,400 that instrument 1373 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,740 I thought it would be a nice idea to 1374 01:02:46,740 --> 01:02:49,020 talk about some of the influences on my 1375 01:02:49,020 --> 01:02:51,720 plane people that I heard in Chicago 1376 01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:54,180 growing up one thing that they all had 1377 01:02:54,180 --> 01:02:56,819 in common there was a certain urgency to 1378 01:02:56,819 --> 01:02:57,900 their playing 1379 01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:00,720 there was a certain tension to the way 1380 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,940 they played the notes some more than 1381 01:03:02,940 --> 01:03:06,780 others Junior Parker was very relaxed in 1382 01:03:06,780 --> 01:03:08,420 his plane he sort of played like 1383 01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:14,190 [Music] 1384 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,119 whereas Sonny Boy Williams had a very 1385 01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:24,059 Stark kind of hard way of saying things 1386 01:03:24,059 --> 01:03:27,020 on the harmonica 1387 01:03:27,610 --> 01:03:31,550 [Music] 1388 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,920 Little Walter was very fluid kind of 1389 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:37,140 lines and 1390 01:03:37,140 --> 01:03:39,380 foreign 1391 01:03:42,110 --> 01:03:46,280 [Music] 1392 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,900 to this day that we were able to capture 1393 01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:51,900 that because I think it's Unique to have 1394 01:03:51,900 --> 01:03:54,780 some a record like that of his 1395 01:03:54,780 --> 01:03:57,140 musical thinking and his musical 1396 01:03:57,140 --> 01:04:01,380 experience for the learning player 1397 01:04:01,380 --> 01:04:12,799 [Music] 1398 01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:16,200 he influenced you know a zillion people 1399 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:18,480 on harmonica certainly 1400 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,940 and that wasn't enough then he was such 1401 01:04:20,940 --> 01:04:23,520 a great singer every time he sang you 1402 01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:25,380 could hear coming out of his soul every 1403 01:04:25,380 --> 01:04:26,220 song 1404 01:04:26,220 --> 01:04:28,140 you know I could never tell if he was 1405 01:04:28,140 --> 01:04:29,940 feeling good one day or feeling bad one 1406 01:04:29,940 --> 01:04:32,160 day he just played from his soul every 1407 01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,119 time Paul had this incredible power in 1408 01:04:36,119 --> 01:04:38,760 his voice and it was kind of that Irish 1409 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:40,619 Tenor thing you know he had sort of an 1410 01:04:40,619 --> 01:04:43,859 Irish Tenor voice but there was some 1411 01:04:43,859 --> 01:04:46,260 kind of force behind it that came from 1412 01:04:46,260 --> 01:04:48,599 some other place one of the songs we 1413 01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:50,400 sang was play on 1414 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:54,599 and it rocked it was he's just so great 1415 01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:58,200 you know it's just a so Soulful and he 1416 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,839 can give you the blues and he can give 1417 01:05:00,839 --> 01:05:03,240 you a rock and roll he can give you the 1418 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,579 soul you know really I thought he was 1419 01:05:05,579 --> 01:05:06,420 black 1420 01:05:06,420 --> 01:05:08,400 some of the little infections that he 1421 01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:10,500 does sounds like Jimi Hendrix and then 1422 01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:13,200 when he when he go there you know long 1423 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,140 that's that's Ray Charles You know it's 1424 01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:18,780 very Soulful makes you want to move you 1425 01:05:18,780 --> 01:05:22,640 know he sounds great and looks great 1426 01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,559 thank you 1427 01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:28,020 sometimes I just feel like smiling as 1428 01:05:28,020 --> 01:05:30,000 Paul's seventh and final album on 1429 01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:32,760 Elektra with its main focus on the doors 1430 01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:34,619 and other more commercially successful 1431 01:05:34,619 --> 01:05:37,559 artists the label drops Paul 1432 01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:39,960 Jim Rooney now in Woodstock managing 1433 01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:42,359 bearsville Studios has a small office 1434 01:05:42,359 --> 01:05:45,540 upstairs in the bearsville complex 1435 01:05:45,540 --> 01:05:47,640 so I was up there one day and Paul came 1436 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,940 in and he was on the phone to this guy 1437 01:05:50,940 --> 01:05:53,880 Joe Baskin at holiday travel booked all 1438 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,640 of our travel anybody through Albert's 1439 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,700 groups it was working every weekend with 1440 01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:01,980 that band I think Friday Saturday Sunday 1441 01:06:01,980 --> 01:06:03,900 three three dates a week and then they 1442 01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:05,520 come home and they'd be home during the 1443 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,099 week which was a nice way to live so he 1444 01:06:08,099 --> 01:06:09,299 was looking for the tickets hadn't 1445 01:06:09,299 --> 01:06:11,220 gotten the tickets for the weekend 1446 01:06:11,220 --> 01:06:13,020 and he says what do you mean they 1447 01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:15,000 haven't been paid and the bills hadn't 1448 01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:17,880 been paid for a good long while I 1449 01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,339 Believe by this point Janice Joplin had 1450 01:06:20,339 --> 01:06:21,420 died 1451 01:06:21,420 --> 01:06:24,119 and it seems to me that the wind went 1452 01:06:24,119 --> 01:06:27,059 out of Albert sales a bit and the next 1453 01:06:27,059 --> 01:06:29,339 thing I know the Butterfield band is 1454 01:06:29,339 --> 01:06:30,780 dissolved 1455 01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:34,859 and it happened really fast 1456 01:06:34,859 --> 01:06:38,240 and that's a huge blow 1457 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,980 and I never heard him say any bad word 1458 01:06:40,980 --> 01:06:43,380 about Albert they were good friends 1459 01:06:43,380 --> 01:06:46,079 in my own mind 1460 01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:48,599 I just don't think Paul ever recovered 1461 01:06:48,599 --> 01:06:51,020 from that 1462 01:06:53,660 --> 01:06:59,420 [Music] 1463 01:06:59,420 --> 01:07:02,700 standing by the highway 1464 01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:05,039 Paul's career is in limbo 1465 01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:07,200 Albert Grossman offers him a recording 1466 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,059 contract with his Label bearsville 1467 01:07:09,059 --> 01:07:11,039 records which has just signed a 1468 01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:12,539 distribution agreement with Warner 1469 01:07:12,539 --> 01:07:13,559 Brothers 1470 01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:15,839 with no other offers on the table and 1471 01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:17,520 with bearsville's new state-of-the-art 1472 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:19,319 recording studios less than three miles 1473 01:07:19,319 --> 01:07:22,160 from his house Paul accepts 1474 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,039 1972 I think it was Albert's idea to 1475 01:07:26,039 --> 01:07:28,260 here's Paul you know or maybe in between 1476 01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:29,819 bands wondering what he's going to do 1477 01:07:29,819 --> 01:07:31,559 he's got this contract 1478 01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:34,440 Albert got a little Amos what a gorgeous 1479 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:36,660 sound Amos had so now you got the three 1480 01:07:36,660 --> 01:07:37,559 of us 1481 01:07:37,559 --> 01:07:41,880 then in comes this guy Ronnie Baron the 1482 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,619 guy was a character 1483 01:07:43,619 --> 01:07:46,799 had this great funky energy which Paul 1484 01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:49,440 made our own hybrid of that kind of 1485 01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,400 sound 1486 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,280 and it worked perfectly 1487 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,799 I think we got Topher next Christopher 1488 01:07:55,799 --> 01:07:59,580 Parker in came Bill rich and it was over 1489 01:07:59,580 --> 01:08:04,920 [Music] 1490 01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:06,180 I remember in the beginning we were 1491 01:08:06,180 --> 01:08:07,859 looking for drummers and bass players 1492 01:08:07,859 --> 01:08:10,140 and stuff for better days and he checked 1493 01:08:10,140 --> 01:08:12,660 bands down sometimes he'd sit in 1494 01:08:12,660 --> 01:08:15,420 and it wouldn't matter what band was 1495 01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:16,739 playing 1496 01:08:16,739 --> 01:08:19,380 whether it be at that joint or anywhere 1497 01:08:19,380 --> 01:08:22,859 else if he sat in and they were grooving 1498 01:08:22,859 --> 01:08:25,799 as soon as he played three notes 1499 01:08:25,799 --> 01:08:28,679 the groove was way better 1500 01:08:28,679 --> 01:08:31,400 that was his magic he just 1501 01:08:31,400 --> 01:08:34,819 and you're in 1502 01:08:37,440 --> 01:08:39,719 we made one very good album with that 1503 01:08:39,719 --> 01:08:42,120 band very proud of it two and a half 1504 01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:43,259 years 1505 01:08:43,259 --> 01:08:45,960 I think we had a quick burnout I don't 1506 01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,080 know how it happens you know you hear 1507 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,640 stories about the Eagles and stuff and 1508 01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:52,500 then they they have a meeting and they 1509 01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:54,839 pull it all together and they all go 1510 01:08:54,839 --> 01:08:56,460 straight 1511 01:08:56,460 --> 01:08:57,839 you know 1512 01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:01,199 and they put somebody in a rehab and 1513 01:09:01,199 --> 01:09:03,420 then they go on for another 10 years you 1514 01:09:03,420 --> 01:09:06,120 know it didn't happen to us 1515 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:09,060 in general the times were definitely a 1516 01:09:09,060 --> 01:09:12,060 changing and all the benign pot smoking 1517 01:09:12,060 --> 01:09:14,819 that we've done in the in the 60s and 1518 01:09:14,819 --> 01:09:19,020 early 70s was giving way to harder stuff 1519 01:09:19,020 --> 01:09:21,480 and people were now getting turned on to 1520 01:09:21,480 --> 01:09:24,299 Coke and using a lot of it and and I 1521 01:09:24,299 --> 01:09:27,239 remember that Jeffrey and Paul I just 1522 01:09:27,239 --> 01:09:30,000 saw them really kind of living out there 1523 01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:34,199 Macho rock star dreams uh and you know 1524 01:09:34,199 --> 01:09:37,080 playing the part by doing extra levels 1525 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,080 of drug taking and drinking and it just 1526 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:43,620 escalated and escalated and uh and then 1527 01:09:43,620 --> 01:09:46,080 you know started having kind of a darker 1528 01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,760 and darker side after a while 1529 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:53,900 [Music] 1530 01:09:53,900 --> 01:09:56,699 Kathy must have been a calming Force for 1531 01:09:56,699 --> 01:09:57,900 Paul 1532 01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:01,560 you know we were partying so hard 1533 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:04,020 and she was probably extremely uh 1534 01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:06,179 forgiving of 1535 01:10:06,179 --> 01:10:08,760 the Boogie Woogie you know 1536 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,940 because we'd roll in from 1537 01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:14,400 closing all the bars and that was that 1538 01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,080 wasn't the end of the night at all you 1539 01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,060 know there's many Dawns were coming you 1540 01:10:18,060 --> 01:10:19,320 know 1541 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:21,719 and there was one morning where he burst 1542 01:10:21,719 --> 01:10:25,679 into tears about how much he loved Kathy 1543 01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:27,780 to me it meant 1544 01:10:27,780 --> 01:10:30,900 that he felt bad about something you 1545 01:10:30,900 --> 01:10:33,900 know like he wasn't being as good a 1546 01:10:33,900 --> 01:10:37,440 man for her as he could have been but uh 1547 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:38,640 I don't think anybody could ever 1548 01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,500 consider thinking about Paul sitting 1549 01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:43,679 there bawling weeping you know and I 1550 01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:45,000 probably just said hey let's have 1551 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,920 another drink 1552 01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:49,199 Paul's first two bearsville releases 1553 01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:52,860 with better days in 1973. sell well and 1554 01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:55,500 receive favorable reviews the band is 1555 01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:57,659 constantly on the road but they break up 1556 01:10:57,659 --> 01:10:59,760 in 1974. 1557 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,400 Paul uses the downtime to catch up on 1558 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:04,320 requests for his Services as a session 1559 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,199 player and guests on albums by Bonnie 1560 01:11:07,199 --> 01:11:08,350 Raitt and others 1561 01:11:08,350 --> 01:11:11,820 [Music] 1562 01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:14,100 he's invited to be a musical guest at 1563 01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:16,560 The Last Waltz a concert advertised as 1564 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,199 the band's farewell appearance held at 1565 01:11:19,199 --> 01:11:20,880 Bill Graham's winterland in San 1566 01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,600 Francisco on Thanksgiving 1976 featuring 1567 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:27,780 Bob Dylan Joni Mitchell Neil Young Eric 1568 01:11:27,780 --> 01:11:30,900 Clapton Ron Wood and Paul's old friend 1569 01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:33,300 Muddy Waters the event is filmed by 1570 01:11:33,300 --> 01:11:35,520 director Martin Scorsese and released as 1571 01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,040 a documentary in 1978. 1572 01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,440 I remember how proud he was of that I 1573 01:11:40,440 --> 01:11:42,780 could have shown you the the old Last 1574 01:11:42,780 --> 01:11:46,140 Waltz record and he said to Lee love 1575 01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:48,120 Daddy you know and wrote me I remember 1576 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,340 him just being so proud 1577 01:11:50,340 --> 01:11:53,219 of that record you know I mean what a 1578 01:11:53,219 --> 01:11:56,880 great lineup right it's just unreal 1579 01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:00,239 Paul used to appear quite regularly with 1580 01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:03,420 Levon Helm and the rco All-Stars and 1581 01:12:03,420 --> 01:12:06,179 that was just a floating party of 1582 01:12:06,179 --> 01:12:07,850 amazing musicians 1583 01:12:07,850 --> 01:12:14,489 [Music] 1584 01:12:14,699 --> 01:12:16,880 foreign 1585 01:12:20,370 --> 01:12:46,860 [Music] 1586 01:12:46,860 --> 01:12:49,810 thank you foreign 1587 01:12:49,810 --> 01:12:54,679 [Music] 1588 01:12:54,679 --> 01:12:58,380 band was really a monster combination 1589 01:12:58,380 --> 01:13:00,659 and the shows that I saw and the ones 1590 01:13:00,659 --> 01:13:03,060 that we had to play with you know what I 1591 01:13:03,060 --> 01:13:05,520 wasn't a musician that wasn't wrapped 1592 01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,450 attention at the side of the stage 1593 01:13:08,450 --> 01:13:19,810 [Music] 1594 01:13:20,219 --> 01:13:23,179 foreign 1595 01:13:29,940 --> 01:13:32,159 totally unique voices on their 1596 01:13:32,159 --> 01:13:34,260 instruments and just as people and their 1597 01:13:34,260 --> 01:13:35,760 personalities they sparked each other 1598 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,280 really well they just had the stuff you 1599 01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,340 know 1600 01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:50,270 [Music] 1601 01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:57,060 I know Paul as time went on with his 1602 01:13:57,060 --> 01:13:59,640 contract with bearsville records became 1603 01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:02,100 unhappy with the promotion that 1604 01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:04,860 bearsville was doing Albert was very 1605 01:14:04,860 --> 01:14:06,960 involved in building his restaurants and 1606 01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:09,840 the bearsville complex and Paul felt 1607 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:12,480 that he was affected by that it was 1608 01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:13,980 difficult for Paul because he was all 1609 01:14:13,980 --> 01:14:16,520 about music 1610 01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:21,179 there was he didn't have that 1611 01:14:21,179 --> 01:14:23,340 political instinct 1612 01:14:23,340 --> 01:14:25,440 his decline took place over a long 1613 01:14:25,440 --> 01:14:27,300 period of time and it was very difficult 1614 01:14:27,300 --> 01:14:31,080 to see our relationship had become 1615 01:14:31,080 --> 01:14:34,199 somewhat distant just because 1616 01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:36,840 I lived in one place more or less and he 1617 01:14:36,840 --> 01:14:38,940 lived in lots of places 1618 01:14:38,940 --> 01:14:41,640 and he would call me 1619 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:42,659 um 1620 01:14:42,659 --> 01:14:44,460 often at two or three o'clock in the 1621 01:14:44,460 --> 01:14:45,719 morning 1622 01:14:45,719 --> 01:14:47,040 and 1623 01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,540 in terms of his phone calls how 1624 01:14:48,540 --> 01:14:50,520 distressed he seemed 1625 01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:53,159 that was an important part of 1626 01:14:53,159 --> 01:14:56,159 of my knowing I mean I knew he was 1627 01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:58,500 having some difficulties but 1628 01:14:58,500 --> 01:15:00,780 so phone calls would say okay 1629 01:15:00,780 --> 01:15:03,840 I'm doing better now or okay I'm doing 1630 01:15:03,840 --> 01:15:04,980 worse now 1631 01:15:04,980 --> 01:15:08,219 after we had Lee we kind of settled down 1632 01:15:08,219 --> 01:15:10,560 more I mean Paul would still go on the 1633 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:12,179 road and it was even it was harder for 1634 01:15:12,179 --> 01:15:13,199 him then 1635 01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:15,540 it was fragmenting 1636 01:15:15,540 --> 01:15:17,340 that's when he started getting really 1637 01:15:17,340 --> 01:15:19,140 kind of fragmented 1638 01:15:19,140 --> 01:15:22,920 it was uh heartbreaking you know 1639 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:24,600 they were madly in love with one another 1640 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,179 I was a young kid 1641 01:15:27,179 --> 01:15:31,860 people didn't have the same awareness of 1642 01:15:31,860 --> 01:15:34,739 how dangerous drugs and alcohol can be 1643 01:15:34,739 --> 01:15:37,199 and how they can completely 1644 01:15:37,199 --> 01:15:40,260 twist someone's mind and their 1645 01:15:40,260 --> 01:15:43,400 priorities and 1646 01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:47,340 you know where to go to get some help 1647 01:15:47,340 --> 01:15:50,699 with this how do we work it out and 1648 01:15:50,699 --> 01:15:52,980 there's no question in my mind that she 1649 01:15:52,980 --> 01:15:56,040 was worried my dad was not an abusive 1650 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:57,060 person 1651 01:15:57,060 --> 01:16:00,900 he didn't hurt people he wasn't that 1652 01:16:00,900 --> 01:16:02,580 kind of scary 1653 01:16:02,580 --> 01:16:04,020 but 1654 01:16:04,020 --> 01:16:06,960 he was surrounded by as many Yes Men as 1655 01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,120 he felt like being surrounded by at any 1656 01:16:09,120 --> 01:16:11,659 given time 1657 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:16,199 you know there were people wanting to 1658 01:16:16,199 --> 01:16:19,140 give him things just because they wanted 1659 01:16:19,140 --> 01:16:21,179 to hang out with him and I was a little 1660 01:16:21,179 --> 01:16:24,840 kid and that's lonely and hard to deal 1661 01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:26,640 with especially if you're raising a 1662 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,679 child and your husband's on the road all 1663 01:16:28,679 --> 01:16:30,540 the time I mean I my heart goes out to 1664 01:16:30,540 --> 01:16:32,280 her you know and what she must have felt 1665 01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,460 I think it was around 76 that she 1666 01:16:35,460 --> 01:16:39,179 decided to be she had to leave Woodstock 1667 01:16:39,179 --> 01:16:43,920 pack the car up and we drove out west 1668 01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,620 um not long after that 1669 01:16:46,620 --> 01:16:49,860 my dad came to you know try to mend 1670 01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:52,320 things and 1671 01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,159 he would come out and and stay for 1672 01:16:56,159 --> 01:16:59,159 periods of time it is hard for me to 1673 01:16:59,159 --> 01:17:01,080 think about that time in my life because 1674 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,140 when you're asking your parent to be 1675 01:17:04,140 --> 01:17:07,380 there for you and there 1676 01:17:07,380 --> 01:17:10,699 you know in another place all together 1677 01:17:10,699 --> 01:17:14,520 that's you know that's tough you know he 1678 01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:16,920 was still struggling and he'd known 1679 01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:19,860 nothing but the road since he was young 1680 01:17:19,860 --> 01:17:22,320 and I think he felt a bit lost 1681 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,140 and he was still deeply in love and you 1682 01:17:25,140 --> 01:17:27,060 know he I know he I know how much he 1683 01:17:27,060 --> 01:17:31,500 loved me and we talked all the time but 1684 01:17:31,500 --> 01:17:32,880 you know 1685 01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:34,739 he would make promises that he couldn't 1686 01:17:34,739 --> 01:17:37,140 keep and that kept breaking my heart and 1687 01:17:37,140 --> 01:17:38,760 you know to make light of it my mom 1688 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,000 would say oh yeah you know it's not that 1689 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,040 your dad you know means to be late it's 1690 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,080 it's Paul Butterfield time you know oh 1691 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:48,239 okay what you know the tour manager 1692 01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:52,199 changed it from March now to June and 1693 01:17:52,199 --> 01:17:54,360 that's being late you know you don't 1694 01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,640 bother to call and say I'm not going to 1695 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:58,199 be out there until this time you know 1696 01:17:58,199 --> 01:17:59,880 but 1697 01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:01,080 um 1698 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:03,659 I learned to really cherish the times 1699 01:18:03,659 --> 01:18:05,940 that I get to go crash with him at the 1700 01:18:05,940 --> 01:18:07,800 in a hotel room and get up in the 1701 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:09,780 morning and eat cold pizza and hang out 1702 01:18:09,780 --> 01:18:11,520 at the sound checks and go on Small 1703 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:12,840 tours with him 1704 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,800 and um you know but it was also really 1705 01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,219 tough 1706 01:18:21,239 --> 01:18:24,120 in 1980 Paul is living in the Woodstock 1707 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:25,920 house with his girlfriend musician 1708 01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,500 Elizabeth baraclaw and collapses while 1709 01:18:28,500 --> 01:18:30,420 recording his north south album in 1710 01:18:30,420 --> 01:18:31,380 Memphis 1711 01:18:31,380 --> 01:18:34,320 he's diagnosed with peritonitis a 1712 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,179 painful inflammation of the inner lining 1713 01:18:36,179 --> 01:18:38,280 of the abdomen typically caused by a 1714 01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:39,900 bacterial infection 1715 01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:42,000 the condition is aggravated by Paul's 1716 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,280 heavy drinking use of cocaine and heroin 1717 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:45,900 and poor diet 1718 01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:47,580 he receives treatment for the rest of 1719 01:18:47,580 --> 01:18:49,960 his life including multiple surgeries 1720 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:51,719 [Music] 1721 01:18:51,719 --> 01:18:53,940 Jerry Lee Lewis 1722 01:18:53,940 --> 01:18:56,760 was diagnosed with peritonitis before 1723 01:18:56,760 --> 01:18:59,699 Paul was anyway he he was seen to be 1724 01:18:59,699 --> 01:19:01,920 wearing it as a badge of honor 1725 01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,080 he was indominable he wasn't going to be 1726 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,719 slowed down by this at all which is why 1727 01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:09,239 for the really end of his career that I 1728 01:19:09,239 --> 01:19:10,860 could begin to see signs that things 1729 01:19:10,860 --> 01:19:13,860 were taking him down and his lack of 1730 01:19:13,860 --> 01:19:16,020 awareness I think that was more 1731 01:19:16,020 --> 01:19:17,380 heartbreaking than anything 1732 01:19:17,380 --> 01:19:18,540 [Music] 1733 01:19:18,540 --> 01:19:21,719 Christmas it was the early 80s he was an 1734 01:19:21,719 --> 01:19:24,300 emergency room at Kingston hospital is 1735 01:19:24,300 --> 01:19:27,900 his insides had dissolved 1736 01:19:27,900 --> 01:19:30,480 and Neil just about died 1737 01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:34,440 and I made a point of coming up here in 1738 01:19:34,440 --> 01:19:35,880 January 1739 01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:38,580 Kathy was gone by this point he was with 1740 01:19:38,580 --> 01:19:41,580 Elizabeth bear Clough 1741 01:19:41,580 --> 01:19:43,860 the house was like 1742 01:19:43,860 --> 01:19:45,600 empty 1743 01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:49,679 and I went over to see him 1744 01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:52,980 and by God wasn't he ate it again 1745 01:19:52,980 --> 01:19:56,880 and I said I so I was so pissed off 1746 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:58,080 I said 1747 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,179 I came up here I thought you were gonna 1748 01:20:00,179 --> 01:20:01,260 die 1749 01:20:01,260 --> 01:20:03,659 I said 1750 01:20:03,659 --> 01:20:07,320 I said I just can't believe this 1751 01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:10,320 you know I just can't believe it 1752 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,020 and he did the whole cute thing you know 1753 01:20:13,020 --> 01:20:15,120 oh hey man it's just I'm not you know 1754 01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:17,100 it's just a little 1755 01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:19,620 taste you know 1756 01:20:19,620 --> 01:20:23,880 Alice kill me wow 1757 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,400 Paul sells the Woodstock house the last 1758 01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:28,080 remaining symbol of his hard-earned 1759 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,199 success in late 1981 and moves to New 1760 01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:32,100 York City 1761 01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:34,020 while he still plays the occasional gig 1762 01:20:34,020 --> 01:20:36,300 he has no record contract and very 1763 01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:38,640 little money with the popularity of 1764 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,219 disco and other musical genres the 80s 1765 01:20:41,219 --> 01:20:43,380 is a tough time to be a blues musician 1766 01:20:43,380 --> 01:20:45,780 he spends much of his time hustling 1767 01:20:45,780 --> 01:20:49,380 money for Booze cocaine and heroin he 1768 01:20:49,380 --> 01:20:51,179 stays with friends when he can but he's 1769 01:20:51,179 --> 01:20:52,739 running out of friends 1770 01:20:52,739 --> 01:20:55,080 then opportunity arrives from an 1771 01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:56,760 unexpected Source when New York 1772 01:20:56,760 --> 01:20:59,219 investment banker Ray Godfrey offers to 1773 01:20:59,219 --> 01:21:02,179 finance a new album 1774 01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:12,300 [Music] 1775 01:21:12,300 --> 01:21:14,760 [Applause] 1776 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:16,800 it was almost like a dream 1777 01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,560 that there he was in The Gramercy hotel 1778 01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:20,820 where I was living there was Paul 1779 01:21:20,820 --> 01:21:22,380 Butterfield 1780 01:21:22,380 --> 01:21:26,940 he was checking in and he stayed for a 1781 01:21:26,940 --> 01:21:28,620 good many months 1782 01:21:28,620 --> 01:21:30,960 he had a lot of demons as we all know 1783 01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,659 one of them was he couldn't eat at just 1784 01:21:33,659 --> 01:21:35,940 anything shooting items were off his 1785 01:21:35,940 --> 01:21:38,340 diet but he couldn't help himself 1786 01:21:38,340 --> 01:21:41,880 he loved and would shovel in the worst 1787 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,400 fried peppers and he couldn't get enough 1788 01:21:44,400 --> 01:21:48,120 of them and I said to myself man that is 1789 01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:51,239 living the blues he he's he lives the 1790 01:21:51,239 --> 01:21:53,219 Blues by totally 1791 01:21:53,219 --> 01:21:55,500 putting himself through that on purpose 1792 01:21:55,500 --> 01:21:56,940 you know I think 1793 01:21:56,940 --> 01:21:58,739 you know whatever Muddy Waters would 1794 01:21:58,739 --> 01:22:00,179 have however he would have written it 1795 01:22:00,179 --> 01:22:01,199 Paul 1796 01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:04,320 lived it that much we knew he went off 1797 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:08,040 into the cosmos and into Eastern scales 1798 01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:11,820 and experimental music but never lost 1799 01:22:11,820 --> 01:22:15,250 the soul of a Chicago blues Man 1800 01:22:15,250 --> 01:22:16,920 [Music] 1801 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:18,500 Caress Me Baby 1802 01:22:18,500 --> 01:22:22,920 [Music] 1803 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:27,200 like the wind caress the tree 1804 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:31,940 [Music] 1805 01:22:31,940 --> 01:22:37,739 I want you to love love me baby 1806 01:22:37,739 --> 01:22:41,910 like a cool soft Summer Breeze 1807 01:22:41,910 --> 01:22:44,480 [Music] 1808 01:22:44,480 --> 01:22:47,520 when Albert Grossman passed away on on 1809 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,580 Super Bowl Sunday 1986 it was a 1810 01:22:50,580 --> 01:22:52,980 devastating day for those musicians and 1811 01:22:52,980 --> 01:22:55,980 I know Paul was felt the same way no 1812 01:22:55,980 --> 01:22:57,960 matter what the music business was like 1813 01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:59,699 at the time Albert had been like a 1814 01:22:59,699 --> 01:23:02,100 father to those musicians and they were 1815 01:23:02,100 --> 01:23:05,179 deeply affected 1816 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,960 in 1986 Paul moves to Los Angeles not 1817 01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:11,820 far from Kathy and Lee 1818 01:23:11,820 --> 01:23:13,860 while in constant pain from his 1819 01:23:13,860 --> 01:23:16,620 peritonitis he makes serious attempts to 1820 01:23:16,620 --> 01:23:18,480 conquer his alcohol and drug dependency 1821 01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:22,140 and regain control of his life rehab 1822 01:23:22,140 --> 01:23:23,820 stents are only intermittently 1823 01:23:23,820 --> 01:23:26,340 successful but he continues to perform 1824 01:23:26,340 --> 01:23:29,520 and on stage he always Rises to the 1825 01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:30,659 occasion 1826 01:23:30,659 --> 01:23:32,600 it was April 15th 1827 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,060 1987 Paul went to Los Angeles to play on 1828 01:23:36,060 --> 01:23:38,219 a BB King special with Eric Clapton 1829 01:23:38,219 --> 01:23:42,000 Stevie Ray Vaughan Albert King 1830 01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,739 um Phil Collins 1831 01:23:43,739 --> 01:23:47,520 and Paul was not in good shape and his 1832 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,340 alcoholism was worse and worse 1833 01:23:50,340 --> 01:23:52,800 and yet he stole the show 1834 01:23:52,800 --> 01:24:15,300 [Music] 1835 01:24:15,300 --> 01:24:16,680 [Applause] 1836 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:26,540 [Music] 1837 01:24:26,540 --> 01:24:30,679 look at the tears 1838 01:24:34,510 --> 01:24:38,109 [Music] 1839 01:24:47,390 --> 01:24:49,980 [Music] 1840 01:24:49,980 --> 01:24:53,100 he was just himself he was a real man 1841 01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:55,500 he was one of the leaders in the 1842 01:24:55,500 --> 01:24:56,880 harmonica business 1843 01:24:56,880 --> 01:25:00,000 but Paul was a young man so it's left to 1844 01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,159 you being a whole lot of others to keep 1845 01:25:02,159 --> 01:25:04,380 it going we would be treating him fast 1846 01:25:04,380 --> 01:25:06,050 we did 1847 01:25:06,050 --> 01:25:19,560 [Music] 1848 01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:21,420 after post-production it came out after 1849 01:25:21,420 --> 01:25:23,219 Paul died which was only less than a 1850 01:25:23,219 --> 01:25:25,320 month later and they posthumously 1851 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,360 dedicated that show to him 1852 01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,580 he came to Woodstock after that because 1853 01:25:29,580 --> 01:25:31,800 he was going to get together with Rick 1854 01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,440 for those shows in Woodstock and a 1855 01:25:34,440 --> 01:25:36,719 little bit of a tour there and Rick 1856 01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:39,179 certainly had his own issues and he was 1857 01:25:39,179 --> 01:25:41,640 on those last shows with Paul including 1858 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,340 the last show at uh graffitis a 1859 01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:45,450 nightclub in Pittsburgh 1860 01:25:45,450 --> 01:25:50,909 [Music] 1861 01:25:51,260 --> 01:25:54,350 [Applause] 1862 01:25:55,140 --> 01:25:57,540 the morning after that show 1863 01:25:57,540 --> 01:26:01,560 I got a call from Rick at the hotel and 1864 01:26:01,560 --> 01:26:03,480 he told me the ambulance had come and 1865 01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:07,560 picked up Paul and he was unconscious at 1866 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,760 the hotel room 1867 01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,560 and Paul got admitted to the hospital 1868 01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:12,420 there in Pittsburgh 1869 01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:14,460 they were concerned about him enough to 1870 01:26:14,460 --> 01:26:16,739 hold him in the state of Pennsylvania at 1871 01:26:16,739 --> 01:26:19,380 the hospital and then he checked out and 1872 01:26:19,380 --> 01:26:21,840 went to Hollywood and he passed away I 1873 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,420 believe it was May 4th only about a week 1874 01:26:24,420 --> 01:26:25,500 later 1875 01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:28,320 I mean he was the love of my life and 1876 01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,840 even though I had a lot of trouble with 1877 01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,940 some of the things that were going on 1878 01:26:32,940 --> 01:26:36,080 I loved him dearly 1879 01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,280 and he loved me 1880 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,600 and 1881 01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:42,659 we had a very 1882 01:26:42,659 --> 01:26:47,120 private and very close Bond 1883 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:48,420 um 1884 01:26:48,420 --> 01:26:52,580 yeah I was very very sad to lose him 1885 01:26:52,940 --> 01:26:57,239 I've done a lot of wrong things 1886 01:26:57,239 --> 01:27:00,920 in my life 1887 01:27:03,139 --> 01:27:05,760 that's all right 1888 01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:07,060 foreign 1889 01:27:07,060 --> 01:27:18,739 [Music] 1890 01:27:18,739 --> 01:27:23,040 and I've done a lot of wrong things 1891 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,239 sure that was right 1892 01:27:26,510 --> 01:27:28,620 [Music] 1893 01:27:28,620 --> 01:27:31,880 right that's all right too 1894 01:27:32,710 --> 01:27:34,560 [Music] 1895 01:27:34,560 --> 01:27:38,219 I had fun 1896 01:27:38,219 --> 01:27:41,219 foreign 1897 01:27:42,070 --> 01:27:46,840 [Music] 1898 01:27:55,699 --> 01:27:59,100 just to come and keep 1899 01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:02,000 me company 1900 01:28:02,350 --> 01:28:05,999 [Music] 1901 01:28:07,580 --> 01:28:11,840 and when I get low 1902 01:28:13,340 --> 01:28:16,380 I know right where to go 1903 01:28:16,380 --> 01:28:19,760 [Music] 1904 01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:22,739 someone's that came 1905 01:28:22,739 --> 01:28:26,760 good care everybody 1906 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,020 [Music] 1907 01:28:28,020 --> 01:28:30,860 he died the same 1908 01:28:30,860 --> 01:28:34,260 ages I am right now you know 1909 01:28:34,260 --> 01:28:38,219 and I feel young I feel like my life is 1910 01:28:38,219 --> 01:28:40,920 just starting I've got 1911 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,739 such a beautiful family and so much love 1912 01:28:43,739 --> 01:28:46,260 to give and so much to offer 1913 01:28:46,260 --> 01:28:50,340 and I can't possibly imagine 1914 01:28:50,340 --> 01:28:53,820 my life ending now 1915 01:28:53,820 --> 01:28:56,400 Paul didn't happen to fit into some view 1916 01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,980 of where the Zeitgeist was at at that 1917 01:28:58,980 --> 01:29:02,040 particular point you know 1918 01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:04,980 and sometimes you just gotta lay low you 1919 01:29:04,980 --> 01:29:07,020 just gotta wait and then the world makes 1920 01:29:07,020 --> 01:29:09,600 a couple more turns and all of a sudden 1921 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,719 you're in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 1922 01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:16,440 my own experience with Blues men is that 1923 01:29:16,440 --> 01:29:18,840 something some energy inside of them I 1924 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:20,460 don't want to use the word pain maybe 1925 01:29:20,460 --> 01:29:23,760 it's Joy something has to come out and 1926 01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:26,460 they discover Blues as they're out with 1927 01:29:26,460 --> 01:29:28,739 boy Paul was definitely one of those 1928 01:29:28,739 --> 01:29:31,320 guys that you put that harp to his lips 1929 01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:35,120 man and something from his soul 1930 01:29:39,900 --> 01:29:42,900 foreign 1931 01:29:45,730 --> 01:29:51,780 [Music] 1932 01:29:52,159 --> 01:29:53,780 foreign 1933 01:29:53,780 --> 01:29:56,580 I had the honor to be one of the 1934 01:29:56,580 --> 01:29:58,860 speakers at Paul's memorial service here 1935 01:29:58,860 --> 01:30:01,500 in Woodstock and among the things I said 1936 01:30:01,500 --> 01:30:04,320 was this which I think sums up my 1937 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:06,179 feeling about Paul 1938 01:30:06,179 --> 01:30:08,040 and I'll read this to you 1939 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,080 Paul used to say that he played only one 1940 01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:13,800 note but he really knew how to play it 1941 01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,300 maybe that's a little bit of an 1942 01:30:15,300 --> 01:30:17,699 oversimplification 1943 01:30:17,699 --> 01:30:19,380 but when he got in front of a microphone 1944 01:30:19,380 --> 01:30:21,540 with a harmonic in his hand he was 1945 01:30:21,540 --> 01:30:23,280 transformed 1946 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,380 everything else was stripped away the 1947 01:30:25,380 --> 01:30:27,960 walls came down and raw feelings came 1948 01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:28,800 out 1949 01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:31,500 Underneath It All That's where his true 1950 01:30:31,500 --> 01:30:34,380 Talent was and his ability to play that 1951 01:30:34,380 --> 01:30:37,199 note with so much heart that it couldn't 1952 01:30:37,199 --> 01:30:39,960 miss going right to the heart of anyone 1953 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,679 who listened 1954 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:57,179 [Music] 1955 01:30:57,179 --> 01:31:02,520 and just to come and keep me company 1956 01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:04,260 [Music] 1957 01:31:04,260 --> 01:31:07,159 foreign 1958 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:16,520 [Music] 1959 01:31:19,070 --> 01:31:27,229 [Music] 1960 01:31:29,290 --> 01:31:32,590 [Music] 1961 01:31:33,020 --> 01:31:35,350 of me 1962 01:31:35,350 --> 01:31:48,920 [Music] 1963 01:31:48,920 --> 01:32:04,670 [Applause] 1964 01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:15,249 [Music] 1965 01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:23,480 [Music] 1966 01:32:23,480 --> 01:32:26,960 can I go there too 1967 01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:29,600 [Music] 1968 01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:34,500 there's one thing I will follow you I'd 1969 01:32:34,500 --> 01:32:39,360 rather die and live without you merry 1970 01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:43,440 merry where are you going 1971 01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:46,440 foreign 1972 01:32:47,750 --> 01:33:14,249 [Music] 1973 01:33:18,420 --> 01:33:21,420 foreign 1974 01:33:39,450 --> 01:33:55,860 [Music] 1975 01:33:55,860 --> 01:33:58,070 It's Not Over 1976 01:33:58,070 --> 01:34:01,760 [Music] 1977 01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,960 wherever you go child 1978 01:34:07,490 --> 01:34:09,800 [Music] 1979 01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:14,760 until I win your love again 1980 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:20,179 stand beside you welcome to this 1981 01:34:20,440 --> 01:34:37,850 [Music] 1982 01:34:38,460 --> 01:34:40,940 foreign 1983 01:34:41,660 --> 01:34:45,699 [Music]133007

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