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Breathe, boo-boo. 11 00:00:32,967 --> 00:00:35,084 Glasses, please. 12 00:00:35,102 --> 00:00:37,304 Thank you very much. 13 00:00:48,132 --> 00:00:50,300 Hi, honey. What's your name? 14 00:00:50,334 --> 00:00:53,737 Grace. Grace belsey. 15 00:00:53,771 --> 00:00:57,424 I'm from west orange, New Jersey. 16 00:00:57,458 --> 00:00:59,108 She got this on her own. 17 00:00:59,126 --> 00:01:01,244 We're just so proud of her. 18 00:01:01,278 --> 00:01:02,495 No matter what happens. Right, honey? 19 00:01:02,546 --> 00:01:04,280 She's going all the way. 20 00:01:04,298 --> 00:01:06,282 Those judges, they don't know what they're in for. 21 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:07,517 Dad... 22 00:01:07,551 --> 00:01:10,804 My mom was actually diagnosed with 23 00:01:10,838 --> 00:01:13,306 non-hodgkins lymphoma last year... 24 00:01:13,341 --> 00:01:17,961 - Another sick mom. - Didn't see that coming. 25 00:01:17,979 --> 00:01:20,030 My audition on American diva? 26 00:01:20,064 --> 00:01:24,935 It is all thanks to my mom and dad... 27 00:01:24,969 --> 00:01:26,186 Yes. 28 00:01:26,237 --> 00:01:29,272 God, and my coach, Jackie Walker. 29 00:01:29,306 --> 00:01:31,157 I discovered grace at an open call. 30 00:01:31,192 --> 00:01:33,660 She's got all the tools to win this thing. 31 00:01:33,694 --> 00:01:35,612 It's up to her now. 32 00:01:35,646 --> 00:01:37,247 I'll take her as far as she can go. 33 00:01:38,649 --> 00:01:41,501 Okay, Gracie. You seem a little nervous. 34 00:01:41,535 --> 00:01:43,520 You okay? It's okay. 35 00:01:43,554 --> 00:01:44,821 I remember my first time. 36 00:01:44,855 --> 00:01:47,357 What are you singing tonight, honey? 37 00:01:47,391 --> 00:01:51,044 - Um, "for once in my life". - And you're how old? 38 00:01:51,078 --> 00:01:52,445 14. 39 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,881 Okay. You ready? 40 00:01:54,932 --> 00:01:56,683 Okay. 41 00:02:10,891 --> 00:02:13,817 I can't hear her right now. 42 00:02:19,857 --> 00:02:21,408 Give her a chance. 43 00:02:33,754 --> 00:02:35,221 Uhhuh. 44 00:02:35,256 --> 00:02:38,258 You know what I was thinking? 45 00:02:38,309 --> 00:02:42,095 We should throw a housewarming party. 46 00:02:42,146 --> 00:02:44,864 Brian, don't say that. You love parties. 47 00:03:26,690 --> 00:03:30,310 daddy, how do I get on American diva? 48 00:03:30,361 --> 00:03:32,896 Well, same way you get to carnegie hall: 49 00:03:32,930 --> 00:03:34,814 Practice. 50 00:03:34,865 --> 00:03:37,695 What? You're weird, daddy. 51 00:04:11,301 --> 00:04:14,320 Don't sit so close to the TV, Cooper. 52 00:04:17,341 --> 00:04:19,526 where's Jonah? He's missing the best part. 53 00:04:19,577 --> 00:04:22,478 Jonah, come watch the show. 54 00:04:32,423 --> 00:04:35,425 Yes! Yes! 55 00:04:38,045 --> 00:04:41,497 That was fantastic. 56 00:04:41,515 --> 00:04:42,799 Your voice? 57 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:44,184 Liquid velvet. 58 00:04:46,220 --> 00:04:47,637 Gracie, after tonight, 59 00:04:47,671 --> 00:04:49,856 your life will never be the same. 60 00:04:49,890 --> 00:04:53,726 Where does that voice even come from? 61 00:04:53,777 --> 00:04:56,012 My voice coach. 62 00:04:57,565 --> 00:04:58,865 Look! 63 00:04:58,899 --> 00:05:00,516 It's your music teacher, Mr. Jackie. 64 00:05:00,534 --> 00:05:02,986 Isn't that exciting? 65 00:05:03,020 --> 00:05:04,353 No. 66 00:05:04,371 --> 00:05:08,741 Jonah, your music teacher is on TV. 67 00:05:08,792 --> 00:05:13,029 - I don't like Mr. Jackie. - Of course you do. 68 00:05:13,047 --> 00:05:16,799 He makes me play doctor. I don't like him. 69 00:05:30,714 --> 00:05:36,714 ♪ 70 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:06,300 Law & order: SVU 15x07- dissonant voices 71 00:06:08,933 --> 00:06:12,715 - sync and corrections by Zac - - www.MY-SUBS.Com - 72 00:06:15,372 --> 00:06:17,667 Mr. Jackie is a bad man. 73 00:06:18,484 --> 00:06:20,179 Why is he a bad man, sweetie? 74 00:06:21,575 --> 00:06:23,676 He follows me into the bathroom. 75 00:06:23,694 --> 00:06:27,730 - When does he do that? - When I have to go. 76 00:06:28,481 --> 00:06:31,183 Just the two of you? 77 00:06:31,217 --> 00:06:33,185 - Does he close the door? - Uhhuh. 78 00:06:33,219 --> 00:06:35,320 That's Jonah Allen. 79 00:06:35,355 --> 00:06:36,655 Four years old? 80 00:06:36,689 --> 00:06:38,607 And change. His mother called SVU. 81 00:06:38,658 --> 00:06:41,360 Sometimes he wants to play doctor. 82 00:06:41,394 --> 00:06:42,611 I don't like that. 83 00:06:42,662 --> 00:06:45,497 Jonah, do you like to draw? 84 00:06:45,532 --> 00:06:46,832 You do? 85 00:06:46,866 --> 00:06:49,251 'Cause look what I have right here. 86 00:06:49,285 --> 00:06:51,620 So Jonah saw his music teacher, Jackie Walker, 87 00:06:51,671 --> 00:06:53,505 on TV and flipped out. 88 00:06:53,540 --> 00:06:55,090 What's his music teacher doing on TV? 89 00:06:55,125 --> 00:06:57,659 He's a vocal coach on American diva. 90 00:06:57,694 --> 00:06:59,878 Yeah, anyway, he kept his day job: 91 00:06:59,912 --> 00:07:02,431 Pre-k music teacher at the Margaret Fuller school. 92 00:07:02,465 --> 00:07:05,267 The 50,000 dollar a year prep school off park Avenue. 93 00:07:05,301 --> 00:07:06,935 - That's it. - Terrific. 94 00:07:06,970 --> 00:07:08,920 So who brought him here? 95 00:07:08,938 --> 00:07:11,557 His mother and his sister, and his parents may be 96 00:07:11,591 --> 00:07:15,227 wealthy, but they also separated just three months ago. 97 00:07:15,261 --> 00:07:18,597 And the four-year-old suddenly comes forward. 98 00:07:18,615 --> 00:07:22,067 Could be he wants attention, could be a divorce maneuver. 99 00:07:22,101 --> 00:07:24,703 Get the father down here, too. Mmhmm. 100 00:07:24,737 --> 00:07:26,271 I'm sorry. 101 00:07:26,289 --> 00:07:28,607 It's just... I'm kind of in shock. 102 00:07:28,625 --> 00:07:30,775 Well, you notice any changes in Jonah's behavior recently? 103 00:07:30,794 --> 00:07:32,211 Yes, actually. 104 00:07:32,245 --> 00:07:33,945 He spends Wednesday nights at his father's, 105 00:07:33,963 --> 00:07:35,280 and he said he wet the bed there. 106 00:07:35,298 --> 00:07:36,799 He hasn't done that in two years. 107 00:07:36,833 --> 00:07:38,250 I don't know what my wife is telling you, 108 00:07:38,284 --> 00:07:39,551 but it's a lie! Shut up, Steven! 109 00:07:39,586 --> 00:07:41,119 Don't you talk to me like that! 110 00:07:41,137 --> 00:07:42,621 - Whoa, whoa, take it easy! - Mr. Allen, step back. 111 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,473 Listen, we're going through a divorce. 112 00:07:44,507 --> 00:07:45,808 I don't know what she's accusing me of, but it's a lie. 113 00:07:45,842 --> 00:07:47,092 She's not accusing you of anything. 114 00:07:47,126 --> 00:07:48,560 Baby, this is just about the money. 115 00:07:48,595 --> 00:07:49,961 - Then stop! - That is all he thinks about! 116 00:07:49,979 --> 00:07:50,962 Calm down. This is all about your son. 117 00:07:50,980 --> 00:07:52,815 My wife is lying. 118 00:07:52,849 --> 00:07:54,733 She's already reported me to the IRS, made a false report... 119 00:07:54,767 --> 00:07:56,268 I said calm down. Let's go. 120 00:07:56,302 --> 00:07:58,570 I swear, if Steven tries to blame me for this... 121 00:07:58,605 --> 00:08:00,239 Why would he do that? 122 00:08:00,273 --> 00:08:02,307 He wanted public school. I wanted Margaret Fuller. 123 00:08:07,363 --> 00:08:09,081 This is all my fault. 124 00:08:09,115 --> 00:08:11,500 No, honey. Honey, why would you say that? 125 00:08:11,534 --> 00:08:15,954 When Jonah told me, I should have told our mom. 126 00:08:15,988 --> 00:08:17,539 When Jonah told you what? 127 00:08:17,574 --> 00:08:19,591 He said that Mr. Jackie followed him into the 128 00:08:19,626 --> 00:08:25,013 bathroom, and... touched him. 129 00:08:25,048 --> 00:08:27,549 Oh, okay. 130 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,852 When did Jonah tell you that? 131 00:08:29,886 --> 00:08:33,605 A couple of weeks ago. But, I mean, Jonah, he's four. 132 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,107 He makes things up. 133 00:08:35,141 --> 00:08:37,743 What other things he has made up? 134 00:08:37,877 --> 00:08:39,578 Sometimes he says he has another family in 135 00:08:39,613 --> 00:08:43,649 California, or that he can see through doors, you know. 136 00:08:43,683 --> 00:08:45,401 So you thought he made this up, too. 137 00:08:45,435 --> 00:08:46,902 It's just Jackie. 138 00:08:46,937 --> 00:08:49,355 I mean, I've known him since I was four. 139 00:08:49,389 --> 00:08:55,244 I didn't want to believe that he would... 140 00:08:55,278 --> 00:08:58,781 Oh, God, I think I'm going to be sick. 141 00:09:02,786 --> 00:09:04,753 That's really good. 142 00:09:04,788 --> 00:09:09,124 So what is this? 143 00:09:09,175 --> 00:09:10,442 That's a magic egg. 144 00:09:10,477 --> 00:09:13,178 Mr. Jackie tickles me with it. 145 00:09:13,213 --> 00:09:15,247 Can you tell me where he tickles you? 146 00:09:20,020 --> 00:09:22,254 I say stop, but he doesn't. 147 00:09:25,692 --> 00:09:31,397 Okay, and, Jonah, can you tell me again where you play 148 00:09:31,431 --> 00:09:33,699 this doctor game? 149 00:09:33,733 --> 00:09:37,236 In the special bathroom. 150 00:09:37,270 --> 00:09:40,072 What makes it special? 151 00:09:40,106 --> 00:09:43,509 There's bluebirds and flowers. 152 00:09:43,543 --> 00:09:45,377 Consistent, specific details. 153 00:09:45,412 --> 00:09:48,163 Seems credible. So we believe Jonah? 154 00:09:48,214 --> 00:09:50,165 Jonah was adamant that Jackie did something, 155 00:09:50,216 --> 00:09:51,717 you know, "wrong." 156 00:09:51,751 --> 00:09:53,385 Did you guys get anything from the parents? 157 00:09:53,420 --> 00:09:55,971 Parents hate each other, but I don't see either one 158 00:09:56,006 --> 00:09:57,256 of them coaching the kid to lie. 159 00:09:57,290 --> 00:09:58,924 The sister, Brooke, she's 15. 160 00:09:58,958 --> 00:10:01,293 She told me Jonah disclosed to her two weeks ago, 161 00:10:01,328 --> 00:10:04,430 and she also said that he does make things up. 162 00:10:04,464 --> 00:10:06,348 - Any history with this guy? - No. 163 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:07,799 Jackie's clean. 164 00:10:07,817 --> 00:10:09,168 He's not in the registry, no record, 165 00:10:09,202 --> 00:10:10,602 not even any legal issues. 166 00:10:10,637 --> 00:10:12,104 What did the doctor say? 167 00:10:12,138 --> 00:10:14,806 She said there were no signs of STDs, 168 00:10:14,824 --> 00:10:17,309 and sexual abuse is inconclusive. 169 00:10:17,327 --> 00:10:20,996 Jonah said that Jackie used a magic egg to tickle him. 170 00:10:21,031 --> 00:10:23,332 He didn't say anything about penetration. 171 00:10:23,366 --> 00:10:25,367 What do you mean magic egg? 172 00:10:25,418 --> 00:10:28,420 He drew that purple oval. 173 00:10:28,455 --> 00:10:32,041 He said that Walker keeps it with the rhythm instruments. 174 00:10:32,075 --> 00:10:34,510 It's enough for probable cause. 175 00:10:34,544 --> 00:10:35,878 I'll get a warrant. Call CSU... 176 00:10:35,929 --> 00:10:37,496 CSU? 177 00:10:37,514 --> 00:10:39,181 Come on, do we have to make a show out of this? 178 00:10:39,215 --> 00:10:40,849 Amanda, you worrying about that school? 179 00:10:40,884 --> 00:10:42,667 No, Jackie Walker. 180 00:10:42,686 --> 00:10:45,387 He's an openly gay male teacher, he's a celebrity. 181 00:10:45,438 --> 00:10:47,839 He gets accused of pedophilia? 182 00:10:47,857 --> 00:10:50,342 I mean, the charges may go away, but the stain won't. 183 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:56,231 I'm touched by your concern. We'll keep it in mind. 184 00:10:58,535 --> 00:11:00,202 You're SVU detectives? 185 00:11:00,237 --> 00:11:01,904 I need to know what this is all about. 186 00:11:01,938 --> 00:11:04,573 We have a warrant. Just let us do our job. 187 00:11:06,893 --> 00:11:10,062 This is the other bathroom on Jonah's floor. 188 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:14,900 Bluebirds and flowers. 189 00:11:14,918 --> 00:11:18,237 - And that's your music room? - Mm-hm. 190 00:11:18,255 --> 00:11:20,790 Your son has a great voice, but for now, 191 00:11:20,841 --> 00:11:23,242 what we do in class should be fun. 192 00:11:23,260 --> 00:11:24,743 I saw a video on YouTube. 193 00:11:24,761 --> 00:11:26,462 The girl was three, singing opera. 194 00:11:26,513 --> 00:11:28,264 Jackie Walker? 195 00:11:28,298 --> 00:11:29,799 Excuse me, I'm with a parent. 196 00:11:29,850 --> 00:11:31,634 Allison, could you give us a minute? 197 00:11:31,685 --> 00:11:34,603 Well, that's rude. What is this about? 198 00:11:34,638 --> 00:11:37,223 Where do you keep your rhythm instruments? 199 00:11:37,257 --> 00:11:40,559 - In the bin on that shelf. - You mean this one here? 200 00:11:40,593 --> 00:11:42,111 Yeah, that's my clap-and-play box. 201 00:11:55,459 --> 00:11:57,076 What's that? 202 00:11:57,110 --> 00:11:58,878 I don't know. 203 00:11:58,912 --> 00:12:00,162 Part of your clap-and-play lesson? 204 00:12:00,213 --> 00:12:03,999 I don't know what that is. 205 00:12:13,626 --> 00:12:15,311 Does anybody else teach in here? 206 00:12:15,345 --> 00:12:17,596 There are students and faculty in and out of here all day. 207 00:12:17,630 --> 00:12:20,015 After school "music together" classes. 208 00:12:20,066 --> 00:12:22,434 Did my producer put you up to this? 209 00:12:22,468 --> 00:12:24,770 Am I being punk'd? This is no joke. 210 00:12:24,804 --> 00:12:26,906 We have some questions we need to ask you. 211 00:12:26,940 --> 00:12:29,158 About that? That's not mine. 212 00:12:29,192 --> 00:12:31,360 You don't want to do this here. 213 00:12:41,806 --> 00:12:46,401 He's 4 years old. This is horrible! I would never harm a child. 214 00:12:46,436 --> 00:12:48,169 So you're saying he lied to us? 215 00:12:48,204 --> 00:12:52,310 I don't know what to think. He does tell stories. 216 00:12:52,345 --> 00:12:54,448 You should hear the songs he makes up in class. 217 00:12:54,449 --> 00:12:57,351 But the story he told us about the purple eggs 218 00:12:57,385 --> 00:12:58,618 turned out to be true. 219 00:12:58,653 --> 00:13:01,288 Those egg-shakers are not mine. 220 00:13:01,322 --> 00:13:03,974 Well, first of all, they're not egg-shakers. 221 00:13:04,008 --> 00:13:06,143 They're sex toys, and he said that you used them 222 00:13:06,177 --> 00:13:07,894 to tickle him. 223 00:13:07,929 --> 00:13:09,880 I did not. I've never even seen them. 224 00:13:09,914 --> 00:13:11,815 Did you ever do anything with Jonah that he might 225 00:13:11,849 --> 00:13:13,517 have misinterpreted? 226 00:13:13,551 --> 00:13:15,102 Like what? 227 00:13:15,136 --> 00:13:16,770 Adjust his zipper? Touch him somewhere? 228 00:13:16,804 --> 00:13:18,772 Stop. I am not a child molester. 229 00:13:18,806 --> 00:13:20,273 It's okay. 230 00:13:20,308 --> 00:13:22,109 Have you ever been alone with Jonah, 231 00:13:22,143 --> 00:13:25,278 maybe in a private bathroom at school? 232 00:13:25,313 --> 00:13:26,897 No. 233 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:29,900 Never. 234 00:13:29,934 --> 00:13:32,903 You think I'd put myself alone with a boy 235 00:13:32,937 --> 00:13:34,604 in a private bathroom? 236 00:13:34,622 --> 00:13:37,391 Maybe he got sick. Maybe he fell. 237 00:13:37,425 --> 00:13:38,775 You know, you go into the bathroom, 238 00:13:38,793 --> 00:13:39,993 you play doctor... 239 00:13:40,044 --> 00:13:41,962 Stop. Stop. 240 00:13:41,996 --> 00:13:46,333 All I do is teach kids music. 241 00:13:46,384 --> 00:13:49,586 We clap, they sing, we have a great time together. 242 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:51,287 Okay. 243 00:13:51,305 --> 00:13:56,259 So let me ask you a question. You're on this TV show, 244 00:13:56,293 --> 00:14:00,514 you have this big, thriving career coaching singers. 245 00:14:00,565 --> 00:14:04,851 Why are you still teaching preschoolers? 246 00:14:04,902 --> 00:14:07,954 Because I actually care about the job I do. 247 00:14:07,989 --> 00:14:10,323 Kids need music in their lives. 248 00:14:10,358 --> 00:14:11,975 The early years are important. 249 00:14:11,993 --> 00:14:14,661 Oh, yeah. Yeah, they are. 250 00:14:14,695 --> 00:14:16,479 Do you have children of your own? 251 00:14:16,497 --> 00:14:18,615 No. 252 00:14:18,649 --> 00:14:21,802 Someday, if I meet the right man. 253 00:14:21,836 --> 00:14:24,004 Okay. Yeah, but you know kids. 254 00:14:24,038 --> 00:14:26,540 I mean, at this age, they jump all over you, right? 255 00:14:26,591 --> 00:14:28,458 They touch you in the strangest places, 256 00:14:28,492 --> 00:14:29,960 they like to wrestle, get tickled... 257 00:14:29,994 --> 00:14:32,129 Okay, that's enough. You know what? 258 00:14:32,163 --> 00:14:36,783 You two aren't paying attention to me, 259 00:14:36,818 --> 00:14:40,604 so I'm going to need my lawyer. 260 00:14:42,140 --> 00:14:44,558 Jackie said the magic word... lawyer. 261 00:14:44,609 --> 00:14:46,026 No surprise. 262 00:14:46,060 --> 00:14:47,644 Maybe he's innocent. 263 00:14:47,678 --> 00:14:49,512 I mean, you guys were going at him pretty hard. 264 00:14:49,530 --> 00:14:51,898 You're the one who found the eggs where Jonah said they were. 265 00:14:51,949 --> 00:14:53,817 Look, he was being defensive, making excuses. 266 00:14:53,851 --> 00:14:55,035 He's lying about something. 267 00:14:55,069 --> 00:14:56,403 Okay, where are we on forensics? 268 00:14:56,454 --> 00:14:58,038 I will put in another call. 269 00:14:58,072 --> 00:14:59,739 Pedigree. So he's been a music teacher 270 00:14:59,791 --> 00:15:00,907 at Margaret Fuller how long? 271 00:15:00,958 --> 00:15:02,492 12 years. 272 00:15:02,527 --> 00:15:04,694 I mean, the guy's worked on Broadway, and off... 273 00:15:04,712 --> 00:15:07,530 Mostly off... A vocal coach. 274 00:15:07,548 --> 00:15:08,865 The usual freelance mix. 275 00:15:08,883 --> 00:15:11,201 And no other accusations? Sudden departures? 276 00:15:11,219 --> 00:15:13,203 Exactly the opposite. 277 00:15:13,221 --> 00:15:16,423 The guy was popular even before he got this American diva gig. 278 00:15:16,474 --> 00:15:18,925 That's going to change. Everyone loved elmo, too. 279 00:15:18,976 --> 00:15:21,645 All off the word of one four-year-old. 280 00:15:21,679 --> 00:15:24,431 And the sex toys. Look, he's grooming Jonah. 281 00:15:24,482 --> 00:15:27,434 He may well be, but rollins is right. 282 00:15:27,485 --> 00:15:29,236 Hard to bring a case like this on the testimony 283 00:15:29,270 --> 00:15:30,487 of a boy that young. 284 00:15:30,521 --> 00:15:32,739 He was consistent, and not by rote. 285 00:15:32,773 --> 00:15:34,574 He's also got an active imagination. 286 00:15:34,609 --> 00:15:38,662 At that age, the line between reality and fantasy does blur. 287 00:15:38,696 --> 00:15:40,063 And that's the problem. 288 00:15:40,081 --> 00:15:42,565 I believe Jonah, but no judge will find him swearable. 289 00:15:44,702 --> 00:15:46,670 What do you want from us, counselor? 290 00:15:46,704 --> 00:15:48,171 More. 291 00:15:48,206 --> 00:15:49,873 He was grooming Jonah with these sex toys. 292 00:15:49,907 --> 00:15:52,042 There have to be other kids. 293 00:15:52,076 --> 00:15:54,878 I'll call the principal, put some fear into him. 294 00:15:59,467 --> 00:16:02,385 Your principal told us that you didn't want to go 295 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:06,706 to music class last week, Cooper. 296 00:16:06,741 --> 00:16:09,009 Uhhuh. 297 00:16:09,043 --> 00:16:11,611 I told the nurse my tummy hurt. 298 00:16:11,646 --> 00:16:13,396 Did your tummy hurt? 299 00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:15,065 No. 300 00:16:15,099 --> 00:16:19,152 Then why didn't you want to go to music class? 301 00:16:19,203 --> 00:16:22,289 You can tell me. 302 00:16:22,323 --> 00:16:25,959 Because Mr. Jackie does bad things. 303 00:16:25,993 --> 00:16:29,713 What does Mr. Jackie do? 304 00:16:29,747 --> 00:16:33,996 He came into the bathroom at school when I was all alone. 305 00:16:35,987 --> 00:16:40,891 And what did that bathroom look like? 306 00:16:40,925 --> 00:16:43,143 There's a window above the tub. 307 00:16:43,177 --> 00:16:45,645 The glass has birds and pink flowers. 308 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,931 The tub? 309 00:16:47,965 --> 00:16:53,636 - There's a bathtub? - I mean the sink. 310 00:16:53,654 --> 00:16:55,305 Oh. 311 00:16:55,323 --> 00:16:57,908 That's where he plays the game. 312 00:16:57,942 --> 00:17:00,310 Tell me about the game. 313 00:17:00,328 --> 00:17:01,912 I can't. 314 00:17:01,946 --> 00:17:06,166 He said it was our secret, so nobody could know. 315 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,336 Your secret? Okay. 316 00:17:09,370 --> 00:17:12,505 Can you tell me? 317 00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:15,625 He has extra-special purple magic eggs. 318 00:17:15,659 --> 00:17:18,795 He tickles me with them. 319 00:17:20,715 --> 00:17:23,833 Mmhmm. 320 00:17:23,851 --> 00:17:26,886 Can you show me where? 321 00:17:32,393 --> 00:17:35,228 No, Gail, I don't know yet. The principal called. 322 00:17:35,279 --> 00:17:37,347 Something happened to Cooper at school. 323 00:17:37,365 --> 00:17:39,950 No. No, hang on. 324 00:17:39,984 --> 00:17:41,651 Yeah... hello? No, no, I'm on with Gail. 325 00:17:41,685 --> 00:17:43,703 Okay, Mrs. burns, can you hang up the phone, please? 326 00:17:43,738 --> 00:17:45,155 Okay. Call Jennifer. 327 00:17:45,189 --> 00:17:46,539 Wyatt is in Mr. Jackie's class, too. 328 00:17:46,574 --> 00:17:47,857 Please. Please, please. 329 00:17:47,875 --> 00:17:49,125 Okay. 330 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:50,794 What happened to my little boy? 331 00:17:50,828 --> 00:17:52,362 We're trying to figure that out. 332 00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:54,497 Last week, he skipped class. 333 00:17:54,531 --> 00:17:55,882 He said he was feeling sick. 334 00:17:55,916 --> 00:17:57,500 I thought maybe it was something he ate. 335 00:17:57,534 --> 00:17:59,469 Is there anything else that you can think of that 336 00:17:59,503 --> 00:18:03,006 happened at school that may seem out of the ordinary? 337 00:18:06,060 --> 00:18:07,844 Oh, my God. 338 00:18:07,878 --> 00:18:12,065 A month ago, Cooper came home without his underwear. 339 00:18:15,186 --> 00:18:17,270 He told me he had an accident. 340 00:18:20,157 --> 00:18:21,775 The second complainant, Cooper burns, 341 00:18:21,826 --> 00:18:23,743 was also four years old. 342 00:18:23,778 --> 00:18:25,362 The two boys' stories are similar? 343 00:18:25,396 --> 00:18:27,414 Well, both of them described the purple magic eggs, 344 00:18:27,448 --> 00:18:29,082 both of them said it happened in the bathroom at school. 345 00:18:29,116 --> 00:18:31,034 But their descriptions of the bathroom were different. 346 00:18:31,068 --> 00:18:34,037 Cooper described a window and a bathtub. 347 00:18:34,071 --> 00:18:36,006 I mean, there's no tub in the school bathroom. 348 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,124 Right, but I would be more concerned if the language 349 00:18:38,175 --> 00:18:39,376 was exactly the same. 350 00:18:39,410 --> 00:18:40,627 Exactly. 351 00:18:40,678 --> 00:18:42,796 Thanks, Fin. 352 00:18:42,847 --> 00:18:46,549 Uh, I didn't want to see this coming. 353 00:18:46,583 --> 00:18:49,686 Jonah's saliva was recovered on the sex toys, 354 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:52,255 along with fecal bacteria. 355 00:18:52,273 --> 00:18:54,524 So he wasn't just tickling these boys. 356 00:18:54,558 --> 00:18:57,027 And there's a second unknown sample. 357 00:18:57,061 --> 00:18:59,863 So it could be Cooper, so let's have them run that. 358 00:18:59,897 --> 00:19:02,098 How about Jackie? Prints? DNA? 359 00:19:02,116 --> 00:19:06,102 No, and a lot of people have access to that room. 360 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:09,406 Those kids told us that he used eggs, 361 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:11,658 they told us where he kept them, 362 00:19:11,709 --> 00:19:13,209 and now you have the DNA. 363 00:19:13,244 --> 00:19:16,830 But you wanted more, counselor. What are we waiting for? 364 00:19:24,175 --> 00:19:26,809 We have Jonah and Cooper's DNA 365 00:19:26,810 --> 00:19:29,332 on the sex toys that we found in your classroom. 366 00:19:29,333 --> 00:19:30,634 What? DNA? 367 00:19:30,668 --> 00:19:31,935 What the hell are you talking about? 368 00:19:31,970 --> 00:19:33,837 - Jackie, please. - Please what? 369 00:19:33,855 --> 00:19:35,939 You're here to help me and you're sitting on your ass! 370 00:19:35,974 --> 00:19:37,340 I'm doing my job. They've made their allegations. 371 00:19:37,358 --> 00:19:39,277 - We take it from here. - Jackie, one more chance. 372 00:19:39,311 --> 00:19:40,645 Now you told us you were never in a bathroom 373 00:19:40,679 --> 00:19:42,146 - with any of the boys. - That's right. 374 00:19:42,180 --> 00:19:43,814 The problem is we're hearing otherwise. 375 00:19:43,848 --> 00:19:45,516 - What? - Two other moms came forward. 376 00:19:45,534 --> 00:19:49,153 Their kids saw you go into the bathroom with Cooper. 377 00:19:49,187 --> 00:19:52,907 Now do you want to tell us what happened? 378 00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:57,912 All right, um... 379 00:19:57,963 --> 00:19:59,497 Cooper burns is one of my students. 380 00:19:59,531 --> 00:20:01,415 Uhhuh. 381 00:20:01,466 --> 00:20:03,801 He fell into the toilet. 382 00:20:03,835 --> 00:20:06,721 - Oh, my God. - I'm telling the truth. 383 00:20:06,755 --> 00:20:08,422 Why'd you lie before? 384 00:20:08,473 --> 00:20:10,091 What was I going to do? 385 00:20:10,142 --> 00:20:12,543 Admit to being alone in a bathroom with a little boy 386 00:20:12,561 --> 00:20:14,595 when you were accusing me of being a child molester? 387 00:20:14,646 --> 00:20:16,514 Would have been better than lying, Jackie. 388 00:20:16,548 --> 00:20:18,048 Why'd you tell Cooper it was a secret. 389 00:20:18,066 --> 00:20:19,383 I mean, if nothing happened... 390 00:20:19,401 --> 00:20:21,569 He was embarrassed. He was crying. 391 00:20:21,603 --> 00:20:25,740 I didn't hurt that boy. 392 00:20:25,774 --> 00:20:30,278 I was helping him. 393 00:20:30,329 --> 00:20:31,895 I was saving him from the shame. 394 00:20:31,913 --> 00:20:33,364 Whose shame, Jackie? His or yours? 395 00:20:33,398 --> 00:20:34,782 He went home without any underwear. 396 00:20:34,833 --> 00:20:36,584 They were soaking wet! 397 00:20:36,618 --> 00:20:39,036 And you never thought to tell his mother what happened, huh? 398 00:20:39,070 --> 00:20:41,071 - Send an email? - Okay, okay. 399 00:20:41,089 --> 00:20:45,092 I should have, but she didn't do the pickup that day, 400 00:20:45,127 --> 00:20:46,377 and I had to go. 401 00:20:46,411 --> 00:20:47,595 We were taping the show. 402 00:20:47,629 --> 00:20:49,046 So that's three excuses. 403 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,434 Which one do you think we should go with? 404 00:20:53,468 --> 00:20:57,921 I didn't do anything to either one of those boys. 405 00:20:57,939 --> 00:20:59,140 You have to believe me! 406 00:20:59,191 --> 00:21:00,558 No, we don't. 407 00:21:00,592 --> 00:21:02,259 Tell your client what's coming down, 408 00:21:02,277 --> 00:21:04,312 what happens to guys who let this go to a public trial. 409 00:21:04,363 --> 00:21:05,896 Wait. No, no, no, no! 410 00:21:05,930 --> 00:21:08,115 You had your chance, pal. 411 00:21:08,150 --> 00:21:09,784 I feel terrible for those boys, 412 00:21:09,818 --> 00:21:12,203 and I thought I knew him, but I guess I didn't. 413 00:21:12,237 --> 00:21:15,323 - What's going on? - A feeding frenzy started. 414 00:21:15,374 --> 00:21:18,376 All of us at American diva are deeply troubled by these 415 00:21:18,410 --> 00:21:21,912 allegations, and are taking them very seriously. 416 00:21:21,947 --> 00:21:23,964 While the investigation is ongoing, 417 00:21:23,999 --> 00:21:27,835 Jackie Walker has agreed to take a leave of absence 418 00:21:27,869 --> 00:21:30,604 so he can focus on his defense. 419 00:21:30,639 --> 00:21:33,341 Thank you. No questions at this time. 420 00:21:33,392 --> 00:21:36,794 Isn't that the guy who got his wife's sister pregnant? 421 00:21:36,812 --> 00:21:39,013 He didn't molest kids. 422 00:21:39,047 --> 00:21:41,399 Are we sure Jackie did? 423 00:21:41,433 --> 00:21:43,684 Why, just because he's charming? 424 00:21:43,735 --> 00:21:45,353 Look, we've seen this before, all right? 425 00:21:45,404 --> 00:21:49,473 We have the DNA, Liv and I were in the box with him. 426 00:21:49,491 --> 00:21:52,026 Yeah, all I'm saying... 427 00:21:52,077 --> 00:21:54,545 We all know that Liv is working through some things, 428 00:21:54,579 --> 00:21:59,200 and her judgment... 429 00:21:59,251 --> 00:22:02,753 I just think that she's pushing this one too hard. 430 00:22:02,788 --> 00:22:05,423 I'm going to side with my partner here. 431 00:22:05,457 --> 00:22:06,741 Of course you are. 432 00:22:11,980 --> 00:22:14,548 Jackie Walker, you are charged with two counts of 433 00:22:14,599 --> 00:22:17,802 aggravated sexual abuse of a minor in the first degree. 434 00:22:17,836 --> 00:22:20,221 Plea? Not guilty, your honor. 435 00:22:20,255 --> 00:22:23,474 This rush to judgment against my client has been appalling. 436 00:22:23,508 --> 00:22:25,593 To be covered in trial, counselor. 437 00:22:25,627 --> 00:22:28,479 Your honor, Mr. Walker has access to resources, 438 00:22:28,513 --> 00:22:30,564 both monetary and logistical. 439 00:22:30,615 --> 00:22:33,317 He has ties to the community, no record, 440 00:22:33,351 --> 00:22:35,686 and a reputation he wants to defend. 441 00:22:35,704 --> 00:22:36,987 We may be past that, your honor. 442 00:22:37,021 --> 00:22:38,789 Agreed. 443 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,908 Given the nature of these charges and the defendant's 444 00:22:40,959 --> 00:22:44,528 resources, bail is set at one million. 445 00:22:51,386 --> 00:22:56,006 Jackie? Jackie? 446 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,508 Did you hear any of that? 447 00:22:57,542 --> 00:22:59,977 Yeah. I don't have that. 448 00:23:00,011 --> 00:23:01,545 Is there someone you can call? 449 00:23:01,563 --> 00:23:03,347 A friend? Family? 450 00:23:03,381 --> 00:23:06,049 My own brother won't return my phone calls. 451 00:23:06,067 --> 00:23:09,069 I don't have anybody. 452 00:23:13,224 --> 00:23:15,776 He can't make bail, seriously? 453 00:23:15,827 --> 00:23:17,528 He was only on that show for a year. 454 00:23:17,562 --> 00:23:18,946 Before that, he was a music teacher. 455 00:23:18,997 --> 00:23:20,781 This is a classic predator move. 456 00:23:20,832 --> 00:23:22,299 He wants everyone to feel sorry for him. 457 00:23:22,334 --> 00:23:24,084 Nothing's his fault. 458 00:23:32,225 --> 00:23:34,625 Hi. Thank you so much for taking me early. 459 00:23:34,626 --> 00:23:36,293 No problem. 460 00:23:36,327 --> 00:23:39,284 Things have been so crazy at work. 461 00:23:39,319 --> 00:23:41,956 - Just happy you're here. - Thank you. 462 00:23:45,009 --> 00:23:46,890 So how are you? 463 00:23:46,925 --> 00:23:49,561 I wish people would stop asking me that. 464 00:23:51,859 --> 00:23:53,810 Sorry, I'm just... 465 00:23:53,844 --> 00:23:56,062 You say things have been crazy at work. 466 00:23:56,113 --> 00:23:58,148 This case that I've been working on... 467 00:23:58,182 --> 00:23:59,733 With those young boys? 468 00:23:59,784 --> 00:24:01,034 Yeah. 469 00:24:01,068 --> 00:24:03,686 I saw your name in the paper. 470 00:24:03,704 --> 00:24:06,389 You know, sometimes I... 471 00:24:08,008 --> 00:24:10,026 I feel like I'm playing whac-a-mole, you know? 472 00:24:10,060 --> 00:24:11,861 You just knock one down, and then three pop up, 473 00:24:11,879 --> 00:24:14,497 and it's just over and over and over and, you know, 474 00:24:14,531 --> 00:24:17,383 but then I think... 475 00:24:17,418 --> 00:24:20,620 Even if I save one... 476 00:24:20,654 --> 00:24:23,256 Is that how you think of yourself, 477 00:24:23,307 --> 00:24:26,075 as a savior? 478 00:24:28,312 --> 00:24:30,330 Someone has to protect them. 479 00:24:30,364 --> 00:24:32,548 Yes, but does it always have to be you? 480 00:24:32,566 --> 00:24:35,819 - It's my job. - You ever wondered why? 481 00:24:39,323 --> 00:24:40,857 Just say what you're thinking. 482 00:24:40,891 --> 00:24:42,759 You've spent so much of your life 483 00:24:42,793 --> 00:24:44,194 taking care of others, 484 00:24:44,228 --> 00:24:47,197 yet this last week, I found myself thinking, 485 00:24:47,231 --> 00:24:50,884 all these sessions, you've never mentioned your parents. 486 00:24:50,918 --> 00:24:52,735 Hmm. 487 00:24:52,770 --> 00:24:55,088 I couldn't help but wonder... 488 00:24:57,424 --> 00:24:59,659 When you were a little girl, 489 00:24:59,693 --> 00:25:01,878 did someone take care of you? 490 00:25:10,321 --> 00:25:13,072 So whose idea was it? 491 00:25:13,123 --> 00:25:15,325 It was his idea. 492 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,962 Okay, and when you played this game, 493 00:25:18,996 --> 00:25:20,964 how did it make you feel? 494 00:25:22,366 --> 00:25:24,918 It felt uncomfortable. 495 00:25:24,952 --> 00:25:26,820 Uncomfortable. 496 00:25:26,854 --> 00:25:29,005 Okay. 497 00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:33,309 Mr. Jackie is a bad man. 498 00:25:33,344 --> 00:25:35,812 Mr. Jackie played the game with me. 499 00:25:35,846 --> 00:25:37,981 Can you tell me about the game? 500 00:25:38,015 --> 00:25:41,184 It was inappropriate. 501 00:25:41,218 --> 00:25:42,719 Why is he a bad man, Emma? 502 00:25:42,753 --> 00:25:45,805 'Cause he is. Even my mom says he is. 503 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,473 She does? 504 00:25:47,525 --> 00:25:50,527 Yeah, so I think he's a bad man too. 505 00:25:50,561 --> 00:25:52,445 Another one. 506 00:25:52,479 --> 00:25:53,980 How many allegations is that? 507 00:25:54,014 --> 00:25:55,215 Nine, and counting. 508 00:25:55,249 --> 00:25:56,783 Two more moms just called. 509 00:25:56,817 --> 00:25:58,034 Boys and girls? 510 00:25:58,068 --> 00:25:59,285 It's not unheard of. 511 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,204 In England, Jimmy Savile... 512 00:26:01,238 --> 00:26:03,072 I know. I know, I know. 513 00:26:03,107 --> 00:26:05,308 Hundreds of boys and girls with a wide range of ages... 514 00:26:05,342 --> 00:26:06,910 Tell me that's not what we're looking at. 515 00:26:06,944 --> 00:26:08,578 So far, no. 516 00:26:08,612 --> 00:26:10,964 All of the victims are preschoolers 517 00:26:10,998 --> 00:26:12,131 at Margaret Fuller. 518 00:26:12,166 --> 00:26:15,552 They all claim that Jackie Walker tickled them. 519 00:26:15,586 --> 00:26:16,803 All current? 520 00:26:16,837 --> 00:26:18,087 Yeah. 521 00:26:18,121 --> 00:26:19,589 So all too young to testify? 522 00:26:19,623 --> 00:26:21,474 There are a couple of older siblings. 523 00:26:21,508 --> 00:26:23,593 - How old? - Six, seven. 524 00:26:23,627 --> 00:26:25,395 Still not swearable to most judges. 525 00:26:25,429 --> 00:26:27,597 So we've got no testimony. 526 00:26:27,631 --> 00:26:31,601 His prints aren't on this egg thing. 527 00:26:31,635 --> 00:26:33,403 We still don't have a case. 528 00:26:33,437 --> 00:26:34,888 Have any of the older students come forward? 529 00:26:34,922 --> 00:26:37,290 - No, not one. - But that's not unusual. 530 00:26:37,324 --> 00:26:39,492 I mean, the Savile assaults went unreported for decades. 531 00:26:39,526 --> 00:26:41,778 I mean, these parents have seen the headlines. 532 00:26:41,812 --> 00:26:43,446 They don't want their kids caught up in it. 533 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,499 The first boy, Jonah, has an older sister, Brooke. 534 00:26:46,533 --> 00:26:48,284 She's 15. 535 00:26:48,319 --> 00:26:51,087 She studied with Jackie Walker when she was four. 536 00:26:51,121 --> 00:26:52,455 Did anyone talk to this girl? 537 00:26:52,489 --> 00:26:54,173 I did, yeah. 538 00:26:54,208 --> 00:26:56,259 She was beating herself up for not protecting Jonah. 539 00:26:56,293 --> 00:26:59,161 She said she felt like it was her fault. 540 00:26:59,179 --> 00:27:01,514 Maybe she was feeling guilty. 541 00:27:04,368 --> 00:27:07,336 Jackie was my teacher in pre-k. 542 00:27:07,354 --> 00:27:09,272 I took private lessons with him for ten years. 543 00:27:09,306 --> 00:27:10,506 Took? 544 00:27:10,524 --> 00:27:12,525 When did you stop? 545 00:27:12,559 --> 00:27:14,677 A couple months ago. 546 00:27:14,695 --> 00:27:16,813 Any reason? 547 00:27:16,847 --> 00:27:19,165 Just lost interest. 548 00:27:19,199 --> 00:27:20,850 Music is like a job. 549 00:27:20,868 --> 00:27:22,201 I wanted to be a normal kid. 550 00:27:22,236 --> 00:27:24,520 Doesn't look like you lost interest. 551 00:27:24,538 --> 00:27:27,540 You know, Brooke, if, uh... 552 00:27:27,574 --> 00:27:29,492 If Jackie did anything, 553 00:27:29,526 --> 00:27:33,029 you know, that made you feel uncomfortable... 554 00:27:33,047 --> 00:27:35,031 Well, you know music teachers. 555 00:27:35,049 --> 00:27:38,501 Like, everything is like sex to them. 556 00:27:38,535 --> 00:27:40,386 Jackie and I would work on a piece, 557 00:27:40,421 --> 00:27:43,873 and Jackie would say to imagine I was kissing a boy. 558 00:27:43,891 --> 00:27:45,224 Did he ever touch you? 559 00:27:45,259 --> 00:27:46,476 Me? No, no. 560 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:48,061 Jackie touches little kids. 561 00:27:48,095 --> 00:27:49,762 Guy's a total creep. 562 00:27:49,813 --> 00:27:53,232 Yeah, but, Brooke, when you studied with Jackie, 563 00:27:53,267 --> 00:27:55,568 you were a little kid. 564 00:27:56,820 --> 00:27:59,722 Brooke? 565 00:27:59,757 --> 00:28:04,911 Hey, did Jackie ever touch you? 566 00:28:11,335 --> 00:28:12,769 It's okay. 567 00:28:12,803 --> 00:28:15,304 No. No, it's not. 568 00:28:15,339 --> 00:28:16,756 If I would have told my parents, 569 00:28:16,807 --> 00:28:18,424 none of this would have happened to Jonah. 570 00:28:18,475 --> 00:28:20,309 I just... 571 00:28:20,344 --> 00:28:23,896 Jackie, I promised him it was our little secret. 572 00:28:26,350 --> 00:28:30,036 Brooke, you know what Jackie did was wrong, 573 00:28:30,070 --> 00:28:33,656 and you don't have to hide it anymore. 574 00:28:33,691 --> 00:28:36,576 It's okay. 575 00:28:36,610 --> 00:28:40,913 He started out tickling me. 576 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,301 He made it all seem so normal, 577 00:28:45,335 --> 00:28:48,204 like this is what students and teachers did. 578 00:28:48,238 --> 00:28:50,506 I didn't know it was wrong. 579 00:28:50,541 --> 00:28:53,176 Hehe touched you. 580 00:28:53,210 --> 00:28:56,329 Anything else? 581 00:28:56,363 --> 00:28:59,465 Uh... 582 00:28:59,516 --> 00:29:05,221 He had these eggs. 583 00:29:05,255 --> 00:29:08,858 Toys... they vibrated. 584 00:29:10,927 --> 00:29:13,563 I thought they were instruments. 585 00:29:13,597 --> 00:29:17,784 He had me, uh, put them inside me, 586 00:29:17,818 --> 00:29:22,205 and he'd watch and touch himself. 587 00:29:22,239 --> 00:29:26,108 How old were you when... When it started? 588 00:29:27,544 --> 00:29:30,663 Four, just like Jonah. 589 00:29:30,714 --> 00:29:32,632 Did you tell your mom or dad? 590 00:29:32,666 --> 00:29:34,667 No, okay, and you can't tell them, please. 591 00:29:34,718 --> 00:29:36,385 They'll be so mad. 592 00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:38,254 Well, honey, they're going to have to find out. 593 00:29:38,288 --> 00:29:39,555 Not now, okay? 594 00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:41,140 You cannot do this, please, please! 595 00:29:41,175 --> 00:29:44,343 Okay, so you didn't tell your mom and dad. 596 00:29:44,394 --> 00:29:47,180 Did you tell anyone? 597 00:29:48,449 --> 00:29:50,316 Rachel, open the door. 598 00:29:50,350 --> 00:29:51,984 Sorry, mom. I couldn't hear you. 599 00:29:52,019 --> 00:29:54,070 The water was running. 600 00:29:54,104 --> 00:29:55,738 Honey, do you have a second? 601 00:29:55,773 --> 00:29:59,275 Olivia and Amanda would like to talk to us. 602 00:29:59,309 --> 00:30:01,410 Um, not really. 603 00:30:01,445 --> 00:30:03,112 I haven't checked Cooper's teeth yet, 604 00:30:03,146 --> 00:30:04,781 and then I need to read him his story. 605 00:30:04,815 --> 00:30:07,700 How about I go ahead and take care of that? 606 00:30:07,751 --> 00:30:10,503 That way the three of you can talk, okay? 607 00:30:10,537 --> 00:30:12,538 Is that all right with you, Cooper? 608 00:30:12,589 --> 00:30:14,040 Can we go in another room? 609 00:30:14,091 --> 00:30:15,625 Um, why? I don't... 610 00:30:15,659 --> 00:30:17,927 Rachel, it's important. 611 00:30:17,961 --> 00:30:20,263 - Just take a second. - Help you brush? 612 00:30:20,297 --> 00:30:21,964 That's it, nice work. 613 00:30:21,998 --> 00:30:23,850 Getting all the way in the back... that's good. 614 00:30:23,884 --> 00:30:25,885 Huh. 615 00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:39,899 What a pretty window. 616 00:30:39,950 --> 00:30:43,236 Those pink flowers, you like those? 617 00:30:43,287 --> 00:30:45,688 - Uh-huh. - Oh, me too. 618 00:30:47,691 --> 00:30:51,627 Cooper, has Mr. Jackie ever been to your house, 619 00:30:51,662 --> 00:30:56,048 maybe given you a bath here? 620 00:30:56,083 --> 00:30:57,500 Uhuh. Never. 621 00:30:57,534 --> 00:31:00,753 He's only at school. 622 00:31:00,804 --> 00:31:04,206 Can you tell me who does give you your baths? 623 00:31:09,012 --> 00:31:10,813 Basically, they were vibrators. 624 00:31:10,848 --> 00:31:12,098 Rachel... 625 00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:13,983 I'm sorry, mom. 626 00:31:14,017 --> 00:31:16,018 I've seen them in some of the other mom's bedrooms. 627 00:31:17,771 --> 00:31:19,472 He used them on me. 628 00:31:19,506 --> 00:31:21,824 He said we were playing doctor. 629 00:31:21,859 --> 00:31:24,694 I'm sorry to interrupt. 630 00:31:24,728 --> 00:31:25,945 Rollins, what are you doing? 631 00:31:25,996 --> 00:31:27,163 Can I talk to you? 632 00:31:27,197 --> 00:31:28,447 Yeah, now's not a good time. 633 00:31:28,498 --> 00:31:29,832 I understand that. 634 00:31:29,867 --> 00:31:31,767 Could you excuse us for just a moment? 635 00:31:31,802 --> 00:31:34,236 I just need to chat with my partner. 636 00:31:34,254 --> 00:31:35,621 I'm sorry, Rachel. 637 00:31:35,672 --> 00:31:37,924 Sweetie, it's okay. 638 00:31:37,958 --> 00:31:40,426 Wow, Amanda, you were right. 639 00:31:40,460 --> 00:31:43,412 That window is pretty, 640 00:31:43,430 --> 00:31:48,634 with the pink flowers and the blue birds. 641 00:31:48,685 --> 00:31:50,419 Blue's my favorite color. 642 00:31:50,437 --> 00:31:53,105 Cooper also told me that he sometimes takes his baths 643 00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:54,924 here with Jonah. 644 00:31:54,942 --> 00:31:56,442 By yourself? 645 00:31:56,476 --> 00:31:59,929 Wow, you two are big boys. 646 00:31:59,947 --> 00:32:03,149 No, with mommy and Rachel. 647 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,700 Oh. 648 00:32:04,735 --> 00:32:06,769 Or sometimes Brooke. 649 00:32:06,787 --> 00:32:07,987 Jonah's sister? 650 00:32:08,038 --> 00:32:09,272 Uhhuh. 651 00:32:09,306 --> 00:32:13,459 And Mr. Jackie was never here. 652 00:32:13,493 --> 00:32:15,294 No. 653 00:32:15,329 --> 00:32:19,382 He came into the bathroom at school 654 00:32:19,416 --> 00:32:22,051 when I was all alone, 655 00:32:22,085 --> 00:32:25,554 only he said it was our secret 656 00:32:25,589 --> 00:32:27,306 so nobody could know. 657 00:32:27,341 --> 00:32:29,508 Your secret? 658 00:32:29,559 --> 00:32:32,511 About the eggs? 659 00:32:32,546 --> 00:32:35,348 He has extra special purple magic eggs. 660 00:32:35,399 --> 00:32:36,983 He tickles me with them. 661 00:32:39,069 --> 00:32:40,353 Cooper, you know the difference 662 00:32:40,404 --> 00:32:43,739 between the truth and a lie? 663 00:32:43,774 --> 00:32:45,157 Mmhmm. 664 00:32:45,192 --> 00:32:47,243 A lie is when something is not real. 665 00:32:47,277 --> 00:32:48,494 That's exactly right. 666 00:32:48,528 --> 00:32:54,176 So can you tell us more about where you played doctor? 667 00:32:55,535 --> 00:32:57,036 The school bathroom. 668 00:32:57,087 --> 00:32:59,488 There's flowers and birds. 669 00:32:59,506 --> 00:33:01,874 You also said that there was a bathtub 670 00:33:01,925 --> 00:33:03,325 and a window. 671 00:33:03,343 --> 00:33:05,044 Mm... 672 00:33:05,078 --> 00:33:07,763 Hey, Cooper, you've got a really good memory. 673 00:33:07,798 --> 00:33:09,765 Thank you. 674 00:33:11,435 --> 00:33:13,619 Is it hard to remember this story 675 00:33:13,654 --> 00:33:15,688 and the way it was told to you? 676 00:33:20,277 --> 00:33:21,477 Very hard. 677 00:33:21,511 --> 00:33:24,480 Sometimes I forget things. Then I remember. 678 00:33:24,514 --> 00:33:26,916 You remember. 679 00:33:26,950 --> 00:33:31,787 So someone told you to tell this story. 680 00:33:35,075 --> 00:33:37,026 Yes. 681 00:33:37,044 --> 00:33:38,344 Yes. 682 00:33:38,378 --> 00:33:40,796 Can you tell us who that was, Cooper? 683 00:33:43,166 --> 00:33:44,700 It was Brooke. 684 00:33:44,718 --> 00:33:49,055 She said I was a big boy and she knew I could remember. 685 00:33:57,574 --> 00:33:59,297 Cooper was coached to lie by Brooke? 686 00:33:59,298 --> 00:34:01,700 And it's most likely that Jonah was, too. 687 00:34:02,451 --> 00:34:04,486 Cooper mixed up the details. 688 00:34:04,537 --> 00:34:06,488 He conflated his home bathroom with that of the school's. 689 00:34:06,539 --> 00:34:07,989 What about the other eight complainants? 690 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,657 Brooke and Rac coached them, too? 691 00:34:09,709 --> 00:34:11,176 No, we're not saying that, but you know these mothers. 692 00:34:11,210 --> 00:34:13,078 They text with each other 24/7. 693 00:34:13,112 --> 00:34:14,612 I mean, a kid gets lice, everybody knows who it is 694 00:34:14,630 --> 00:34:16,097 within half an hour. 695 00:34:16,132 --> 00:34:17,799 But we're not talking about lice here. 696 00:34:17,833 --> 00:34:19,884 I know that, but people get themselves all worked up 697 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:21,753 and it ends up taking on a life of its own. 698 00:34:21,787 --> 00:34:24,389 Extraordinary popular delusions and the madness of crowds? 699 00:34:24,423 --> 00:34:25,957 Yeah, it could be. 700 00:34:25,975 --> 00:34:28,309 Okay, say the mothers just whipped up the hysteria. 701 00:34:28,344 --> 00:34:31,363 Brooke and Rachel are the ones who framed Jackie. 702 00:34:31,398 --> 00:34:32,268 Why? 703 00:34:32,303 --> 00:34:33,965 Brooke and Rachel disclosed to me last night 704 00:34:33,983 --> 00:34:36,184 that they were both molested by Jackie when they were four. 705 00:34:36,235 --> 00:34:37,519 So instead of coming forward, 706 00:34:37,570 --> 00:34:41,022 they coached their younger brothers? 707 00:34:41,073 --> 00:34:42,607 Do you believe them? 708 00:34:42,641 --> 00:34:45,977 Right now... 709 00:34:45,995 --> 00:34:48,496 I don't know what to believe. 710 00:34:48,531 --> 00:34:50,248 Jackie's still at Rikers? 711 00:34:50,282 --> 00:34:53,284 - Yeah. - Go ask him. 712 00:34:56,438 --> 00:35:00,171 What, they're accusing me now? I never touched them. 713 00:35:00,206 --> 00:35:01,592 But you did coach them up until a couple months ago. 714 00:35:01,610 --> 00:35:02,977 Why did they leave you? 715 00:35:03,028 --> 00:35:06,597 They didn't leave me. I dropped them. 716 00:35:06,615 --> 00:35:10,317 The season was starting and I had to choose who I was 717 00:35:10,369 --> 00:35:12,453 going to coach for American diva. 718 00:35:12,487 --> 00:35:15,456 I went with grace. 719 00:35:15,490 --> 00:35:17,491 To make it, you have to be really special, 720 00:35:17,542 --> 00:35:20,294 and those girls just really aren't. 721 00:35:20,328 --> 00:35:21,779 Did you tell them that? 722 00:35:21,797 --> 00:35:25,032 Yeah, did them a big favor. 723 00:35:25,067 --> 00:35:27,301 Saved them from ten years of waiting for a break 724 00:35:27,335 --> 00:35:29,620 that would never come. 725 00:35:29,638 --> 00:35:33,808 And I'm betting they didn't take that really well. 726 00:35:47,105 --> 00:35:50,107 Oh, my God. 727 00:35:57,315 --> 00:35:58,982 Brooke and Rachel set him up. 728 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:00,918 They coached their brothers to lie. 729 00:36:00,952 --> 00:36:03,587 I mean, that's hardball, even for teenagers. 730 00:36:03,622 --> 00:36:05,790 Yeah, but Brooke's seen her mother play hardball 731 00:36:05,824 --> 00:36:07,324 in the divorce. 732 00:36:07,342 --> 00:36:09,176 I mean, kids, you think they're not paying attention. 733 00:36:09,211 --> 00:36:12,763 They don't miss anything. 734 00:36:12,798 --> 00:36:14,598 Cooper said that he was molested in a bathroom with 735 00:36:14,633 --> 00:36:17,384 a stained glass window above the tub, 736 00:36:17,419 --> 00:36:20,438 just like the bathroom in his bedroom. 737 00:36:20,472 --> 00:36:22,389 So? 738 00:36:22,441 --> 00:36:24,341 Maybe Mr. Jackie gave him a lesson there. 739 00:36:24,359 --> 00:36:30,281 No, Jackie was never there. 740 00:36:30,315 --> 00:36:32,349 What are you suggesting? 741 00:36:32,367 --> 00:36:36,036 That I molested my friend's brother? 742 00:36:36,071 --> 00:36:40,775 We're not sure what all you've done. 743 00:36:40,809 --> 00:36:43,961 He had, like, a power over us. 744 00:36:43,995 --> 00:36:45,729 We'd do anything he said. 745 00:36:45,764 --> 00:36:48,799 Yeah, but then you suddenly stopped studying with him? 746 00:36:48,834 --> 00:36:50,251 Yeah, we quit. 747 00:36:50,285 --> 00:36:53,687 Or he dropped you before the audition. 748 00:36:53,722 --> 00:36:55,172 No. 749 00:36:55,206 --> 00:36:56,474 No, I didn't want to study with him anymore. 750 00:36:56,508 --> 00:36:57,875 He's a pervert. 751 00:36:57,909 --> 00:36:59,376 He touches me and Brooke all the time. 752 00:36:59,411 --> 00:37:01,128 He touches you? 753 00:37:01,163 --> 00:37:04,047 Because pedophiles don't usually touch, 754 00:37:04,065 --> 00:37:09,553 they're not interested in, teenage girls. 755 00:37:09,571 --> 00:37:13,557 We do know that Cooper said it was very hard to 756 00:37:13,575 --> 00:37:15,693 remember the story that you told him. 757 00:37:15,727 --> 00:37:17,244 What? 758 00:37:17,279 --> 00:37:18,913 He's four years old. You can't believe him. 759 00:37:18,947 --> 00:37:23,117 You wanted us to believe him about Jackie. 760 00:37:23,151 --> 00:37:25,736 Don't let them talk to me like this. 761 00:37:25,754 --> 00:37:29,106 Rachel, what are they saying? 762 00:37:29,140 --> 00:37:30,925 I didn't do any of this. 763 00:37:30,959 --> 00:37:32,793 So what's going to happen when we look at your cell phone, 764 00:37:32,844 --> 00:37:34,428 your computer, all your texts, 765 00:37:34,462 --> 00:37:35,679 your search history? 766 00:37:35,714 --> 00:37:36,931 I was just doing research. 767 00:37:36,965 --> 00:37:38,299 You find those magic eggs online? 768 00:37:38,350 --> 00:37:39,600 You use your family credit card? 769 00:37:39,634 --> 00:37:41,302 No, no, this wasn't my idea! 770 00:37:41,353 --> 00:37:43,137 Rachel, it's over. You need to stop lying now. 771 00:37:43,188 --> 00:37:44,522 I'm not lying! It wasn't my idea! 772 00:37:44,556 --> 00:37:45,773 It's not your idea, Rachel? 773 00:37:45,807 --> 00:37:47,641 Well, then whose idea was it? 774 00:37:51,396 --> 00:37:54,682 Rachel, tell them. 775 00:37:59,538 --> 00:38:03,774 Brooke. 776 00:38:03,792 --> 00:38:08,111 After Jackie dumped us, she was really mad. 777 00:38:08,129 --> 00:38:12,049 She made the whole thing up, told me and Cooper what to say. 778 00:38:16,254 --> 00:38:18,722 After all my family has been through? 779 00:38:18,757 --> 00:38:20,224 We will sue the city! 780 00:38:20,258 --> 00:38:21,508 With false charges? 781 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,093 Just like you threatened your husband? 782 00:38:23,127 --> 00:38:24,762 Oh, how dare you? 783 00:38:24,796 --> 00:38:26,347 Why would my daughter do this? 784 00:38:26,398 --> 00:38:28,766 Because Jackie dropped her as a student. 785 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,802 He told you you weren't good enough for American diva. 786 00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:33,404 He dropped me. So what? 787 00:38:33,438 --> 00:38:35,472 Okay, I know how good I am, I know I'm going to be a star, 788 00:38:35,490 --> 00:38:37,575 and my whole life, everybody's been telling me that. 789 00:38:39,611 --> 00:38:41,278 Okay, it's just a matter of time. 790 00:38:41,312 --> 00:38:43,146 They've been telling you that your whole life? 791 00:38:43,164 --> 00:38:45,282 So it must have really sucked when you found out 792 00:38:45,316 --> 00:38:47,251 everybody was lying to you. 793 00:38:47,285 --> 00:38:51,121 That's not true! 794 00:38:51,155 --> 00:38:52,990 Okay, and I didn't do this to Jackie, 795 00:38:53,008 --> 00:38:55,509 Jackie did this to me. 796 00:38:59,014 --> 00:39:00,514 Mom, don't let them get away with this! 797 00:39:00,548 --> 00:39:04,268 I won't, I won't. Let's go. 798 00:39:04,302 --> 00:39:06,971 - Ms. Allen? - Yes, what? 799 00:39:07,005 --> 00:39:09,456 You must be really proud of your daughter. 800 00:39:17,515 --> 00:39:19,633 Upon further investigation, we have found the charges 801 00:39:19,668 --> 00:39:22,286 against Mr. Walker to be baseless. 802 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,989 We are asking for all charges to be dismissed, 803 00:39:25,023 --> 00:39:29,126 and for him to be released immediately. 804 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,796 We would also like to extend our sincere apologies 805 00:39:32,831 --> 00:39:35,532 to Mr. Walker and his family. 806 00:39:45,376 --> 00:39:49,013 I know you don't want to hear any more apologies. 807 00:39:49,047 --> 00:39:50,264 I'm sorry. 808 00:39:50,315 --> 00:39:51,849 You're sorry? 809 00:39:51,883 --> 00:39:54,234 Is that supposed to make it right? 810 00:39:54,269 --> 00:39:56,520 - I can't imagine... - No, you can't. 811 00:39:56,554 --> 00:39:59,773 Mr. Walker, if you want us to talk with the school... 812 00:39:59,824 --> 00:40:03,777 Haven't you done enough? You all dragged me into this. 813 00:40:03,812 --> 00:40:06,363 I told you from the beginning that I had nothing 814 00:40:06,397 --> 00:40:10,250 to do with it, that I was innocent... 815 00:40:10,285 --> 00:40:14,038 And you didn't believe me. 816 00:40:14,072 --> 00:40:16,707 You wouldn't even listen to my side! 817 00:40:16,741 --> 00:40:18,926 We will work hard to clear your name. 818 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,844 Clear my name? My name is ruined. 819 00:40:20,879 --> 00:40:22,680 It was front page news when you charged me! 820 00:40:22,714 --> 00:40:25,049 You see any cameras out there today? 821 00:40:25,083 --> 00:40:28,886 I'll never teach again. My life is over. 822 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,471 Mr. Walker... 823 00:40:30,522 --> 00:40:33,273 And those two girls, 824 00:40:33,308 --> 00:40:35,609 when do they get charged? 825 00:40:35,643 --> 00:40:38,812 The D.A. Has agreed to let them take a plea. 826 00:40:38,863 --> 00:40:41,365 For misdemeanor obstruction, they'll do one year's probation. 827 00:40:41,399 --> 00:40:43,867 - Probation? - Are you kidding me? 828 00:40:43,902 --> 00:40:45,402 We can't take this to trial. 829 00:40:45,436 --> 00:40:47,154 The girls won't testify against each other. 830 00:40:47,205 --> 00:40:49,656 The only way to make a case is to put two four-year-old 831 00:40:49,708 --> 00:40:51,959 boys on the stand to testify against their sisters. 832 00:40:51,993 --> 00:40:55,746 Those boys are damaged enough as it is. 833 00:40:55,780 --> 00:40:57,114 They're damaged? 834 00:41:00,385 --> 00:41:02,336 Heh. I see. 835 00:41:02,387 --> 00:41:04,191 - Mr. Walker, there... - No! 836 00:41:06,457 --> 00:41:09,176 Get away from me. 837 00:41:09,227 --> 00:41:12,229 Just get away. 838 00:41:14,465 --> 00:41:18,652 I keep going over it in my head. 839 00:41:18,686 --> 00:41:20,687 Those kids did not sound coached. 840 00:41:20,739 --> 00:41:24,858 We had the DNA. We were just doing our job. 841 00:41:24,909 --> 00:41:27,327 People lie, people make mistakes, people get hurt. 842 00:41:27,362 --> 00:41:29,113 This comes with the territory. 843 00:41:29,147 --> 00:41:33,500 No, you guys can keep telling yourselves whatever you want. 844 00:41:33,535 --> 00:41:36,537 This didn't have to happen. 845 00:41:43,919 --> 00:41:47,983 - Sync and corrections by Zac - - www.MY-SUBS.Com - 61179

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