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Narrator: THE HOLY GRAIL.
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WHAT WAS IT?
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A CUP FROM THE LAST SUPPER?
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A CUP USED TO HELP
CLEANSE JESUS' BODY
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AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION?
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DOES THIS MOST FAMOUS RELIC
ACTUALLY EXIST?
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Fanthorpe: THERE IS
A REAL HISTORICAL POSSIBILITY
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THAT THE CUP
USED AT THE LAST SUPPER
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WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESERVED.
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THIS IS WHAT WAS FOUND IN THERE,
A SMALL STONE CUP.
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Howells: I DON'T THINK THE GRAIL
IS A PHYSICAL ITEM.
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I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE.
IT HAS TOO MUCH POWER.
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IT HAS TOO MUCH
PSYCHOLOGICAL VALUE.
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SAFELY KEPT IN A JIFFY BAG.
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I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING
TO FIND THE HOLY GRAIL
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IN A JIFFY BAG.
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RIGHT. OKAY.
IT'S EXTRAORDINARY.
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Picknett: WE'RE NEVER GOING TO
FIND THE REAL HOLY GRAIL
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IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CUP
THAT WAS USED AT THE LAST SUPPER
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BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUCH THING.
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DO YOU THINK
THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL?
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THEY'VE ALL GOT A CUP.
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THEY ALL, YOU KNOW, CAN HEAL.
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IT'S A PIECE OF INDUSTRY,
IF YOU LIKE,
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OR A PIECE OF BUSINESS.
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WOW.
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Narrator:
THE QUEST FOR THE HOLY GRAIL
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IS ONE OF THE GREAT ADVENTURES
OF ALL TIME.
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IT'S ATTRACTED ARTHURIAN
KNIGHTS, INDIANA JONES,
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AND DOZENS OF ARCHAEOLOGISTS
AND EXPLORERS THROUGH THE AGES.
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THE RESULT HAS BEEN
THE DISCOVERY
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OF A NUMBER
OF CUPS AND CHALICES,
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WHICH ALL LAY CLAIM
TO BE THE REAL THING.
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BUT ARE THEY?
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JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON
IS ON A QUEST TO FIND OUT.
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Butler: IT'S ALWAYS
SEEMED RATHER STRANGE TO ME
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THAT IN A VERY SIMPLE MEAL,
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GIVEN A VERY SIMPLE PLACE
2,000 YEARS AGO,
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USING WOODEN
OR VERY SIMPLE POTTERY BOWLS
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THAT THE CUP THAT JESUS DRANK
OUT OF AT THE LAST SUPPER
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COULD POSSIBLY HAVE SURVIVED
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OR THAT ANYONE WOULD HAVE EVEN
THOUGHT ABOUT KEEPING IT.
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Gough:
I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT A CUP
OR CHALICE FROM THE CRUCIFIXION
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OR EVEN THE LAST SUPPER
WOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT.
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NOW, THERE MAY BE CUPS
OR CHALICES THAT WERE SACRED
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AND USED IN MASS
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BY FAMOUS PRIESTS SUCH
AS ST. LAWRENCE OR EVEN PAUL
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THAT HAVE BEEN PRESERVED.
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AND THAT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE.
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YOU HAVE TO LOOK NO FURTHER
THAN THE CHALICE IN VALENCIA
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TO SEE THAT POSSIBILITY.
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Narrator: ONE OF THE PROBLEMS
WITH IDENTIFYING
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THE REAL, TRUE HOLY GRAIL
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IS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH DEBATE
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ABOUT WHAT IT REALLY IS
IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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THE HOLY GRAIL IS SOMETIMES
THOUGHT OF AS THE CUP
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THAT WAS USED AT THE LAST SUPPER
WITH JESUS AND THE DISCIPLES.
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AND IT'S ALSO THOUGHT
TO HAVE BEEN THE CUP
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THAT CONTAINS SOME OF HIS BLOOD.
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Prince:
IN SOME WAYS, THE QUESTION,
"WHAT IS THE HOLY GRAIL?"
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IS KIND OF A BIT
OF A RED HERRING.
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OR RATHER,
IT'S GOT A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER...
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THAT IN ANY GIVEN TELLING
OF THE GRAIL STORY,
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THE GRAIL IS OR IT REPRESENTS
WHATEVER IT IS
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THE WRITER OF THAT PARTICULAR
STORY WANTS IT TO BE.
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Butler:
THE ONE GREAT THING ABOUT
THE BEST OF THE GRAIL STORIES
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IS THAT THE KNIGHTS
OF THE ROUND TABLE
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WHO SEEK TO FIND IT ONLY EVER
FIND IT WHEN THEY'RE DEAD.
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SO THAT THE GRAIL
IS ESSENTIALLY, FOR ME,
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A SPIRITUAL THING,
A SEARCH.
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Gough: YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF
CUPS AND CHALICES THAT PURPORT
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TO BE THE HOLY GRAIL
AND THE ONE AND ONLY.
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YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE
FROM THE 1st CENTURY A.D.
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IT COULD BE MEDIEVAL.
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IT COULD BE FROM
A COFFEE SHOP IN NEW YORK CITY.
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BUT THE POINT IS,
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IF IT'S MEANINGFUL AND SYMBOLIC
TO YOU,
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THEN, YES, IT IS A GRAIL.
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WE SHOULDN'T THINK
THERE'S JUST ONE OF THEM.
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Narrator:
JAMIE'S FIRST STOP IS HAWKSTONE
PARK IN SHROPSHIRE IN ENGLAND.
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AUTHOR AND HISTORIAN
GRAHAM PHILLIPS BELIEVES
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THAT THE HOLY GRAIL
IS A SMALL OINTMENT CUP
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THAT MARY MAGDALENE USED TO HEAL
JESUS AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION
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AND THAT HE'S FOUND IT
RIGHT HERE
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IN THE HEART
OF THE ENGLISH COUNTRYSIDE.
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SO, GRAHAM,
WHAT WAS IT THAT LED YOU HERE?
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IN THE MID-1800s,
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THERE WAS A LOCAL HISTORIAN
CALLED THOMAS WRIGHT.
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AND HE CLAIMED
THAT HE WAS DESCENDED
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FROM THE FAMILY
THAT POSSESSED THE HOLY GRAIL,
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SPECIFICALLY THE GRAIL
THAT BELONGED TO MARY MAGDALENE,
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THE SMALL CHALICE
THAT SHE HAD USED...
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ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE...
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TO COLLECT A FEW DROPS
OF JESUS' BLOOD
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WHEN HE WAS ON THE CROSS.
OKAY.
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NOW, THOMAS WRIGHT CLAIMED
THAT HE POSSESSED THIS CUP
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AND UNFORTUNATELY HAD NO ONE
TO HAND IT ON TO.
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SO WHAT HE DID,
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SEEING HIMSELF AS SOME,
PERHAPS, LATTER-DAY MERLIN,
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IS TO HIDE THIS CUP
AND LEAVE A SERIES OF CLUES,
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CRYPTIC CLUES
AS TO WHERE IT WAS.
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NOW THESE, IT WAS SAID,
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WERE IN THIS BOOK
THAT HE HAD WRITTEN,
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WHICH IS BASICALLY
A POEM
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ABOUT THE LOCAL LANDSCAPE
IN THIS AREA.
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Theakston: RIGHT.
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AND IN THIS BOOK,
AT THE END OF THE BOOK,
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IS A PICTURE OF SOMEWHERE CALLED
THE RED CASTLE.
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AND THE RED CASTLE
IS ASSOCIATED IN LEGEND,
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WHICH IS REALLY
ALL THAT'S KNOWN ABOUT IT,
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WITH THE KING ARTHUR STORY...
RIGHT.
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WHERE ONE OF ARTHUR'S
ENEMIES, THE RED KNIGHT,
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LIVES IN THE RED CASTLE.
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BUT BACK IN LIKE 1990,
WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE,
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I GOT TO THIS SPOT.
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AND THERE IS THE KEEP
OF THE RED CASTLE
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EXACTLY AS THE PICTURE
IN THE BOOK.
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AND THIS PROVED TO ME THAT,
WOW, THIS QUEST IS REAL.
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THERE HAS GOT
TO BE A SERIES OF CLUES,
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AS THOMAS WRIGHT CLAIMED.
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WHAT'S DOWN...
CAN WE GO IN THERE?
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YEAH, THIS IS QUITE INTERESTING
IN HERE.
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AS I SAY,
NOBODY REALLY KNOWS
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WHAT THE CASTLE
WAS USED FOR.
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RIGHT.
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AND IN HERE, YOU WILL FIND
ANOTHER VERY MYSTERIOUS...
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YOU NEED A TORCH.
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YEAH, I GOT THAT.
TO GET IN.
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MIND YOUR HEAD.
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NOW, IN HERE,
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YOU'VE GOT WHAT IS SAID TO BE,
LOCALLY, A WELL.
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BUT IT'S NOT...
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Theakston: OH, MY GOD.
IT'S JUST TOO WIDE TO BE ONE.
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AND LOOK HOW DEEP IT IS.
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WOW.
AND ALL AROUND THE WALLS
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YOU'VE GOT THESE
LITTLE SORT OF NICHES
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INTO WHICH WOULD HAVE GONE WOOD
TO SUPPORT FLOORS.
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AND THE ONLY THEORY PEOPLE
HAVE IS, SOMEHOW,
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THIS WAS A SERIES OF FLOORS
GOING DEEP UNDERGROUND
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AS A SORT OF MEDIEVAL BUNKER,
SO TO SPEAK.
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SO WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN
IN THE BOTTOM THERE?
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NOBODY KNOWS.
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Phillips: AND THE REALLY
INTERESTING THING, OF COURSE,
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AS FAR AS THE CURRENT QUEST
IS CONCERNED
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IS THAT THE PICTURE
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IN THE DRAWING
IN THOMAS WRIGHT'S BOOK
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IS DRAWN FROM HERE.
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AND SO,
THE FIRST CLUE IN THE SERIES
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IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAND HERE,
SAYS,
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"LEAD ME TO THE ROCK
THAT IS HIGHER THAN I."
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AND THE ONLY ROCK
THAT'S IN THE AREA THAT'S HIGHER
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IS THAT ONE THERE.
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AND THAT, REALLY,
IS WHAT IS KNOWN LOCALLY
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AS THE WHITE CLIFF.
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AND IT SEEMS TO BE UP THERE
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I'VE GOT TO GO.
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SO, THAT'S WHERE
THE SECOND CLUE IS.
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YES. AND, IN FACT, IF YOU COULD
JUST FOLLOW ME, I'LL SHOW YOU.
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YOU CAN'T SEE IT QUITE
THROUGH THE TREES HERE.
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BUT ON TOP OF THAT CLIFF
IS A VERY STRANGE MONUMENT,
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WHICH IS ALSO REFERENCED
IN THE CLUES.
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OKAY.
LET'S GO TAKE A LOOK.
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GRAHAM TOOK JAMIE
UP TO THE TOP OF THE HILL
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TO SEE THE RUINS
OF THE CHAPEL CLOSE-UP.
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IF HE WAS RIGHT
AND THE CLUES DID LEAD TO IT,
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THEN THE SO-CALLED
HAWKSTONE GRAIL
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LAY HIDDEN AWAY INSIDE THE HILL
BENEATH THEIR FEET.
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SO OF COURSE,
THE NEXT CLUE TELLS ME
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THAT I HAVE TO GO
BELOW THE ARCH INSIDE THE HILL.
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NOW, I'M THINKING, "HOW ON EARTH
AM I GOING TO DO THAT?"
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SO IF I GO AROUND THE BACK
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OF WHERE THE ARCH
IS IN THE CLIFF,
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I FIND THIS ASTONISHING GORGE
CUT THROUGH THE ROCKS.
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SO I THINK,
"WELL, LET'S GO UP HERE."
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AT THE TIME,
A LOT OF THIS WAS OVERGROWN.
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AND SO I START TO HAVE TO HACK
MY WAY THROUGH AND CLIMB MY WAY
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OVER ALL SORTS
OF FALLEN BRANCHES
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AND DIFFERENT
BITS AND PIECES.
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AND I'M THINKING,
"WELL, IS THIS IN ANY WAY
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GOING TO LEAD ME INSIDE THE ROCK
AND UNDER WHERE THE ARCH IS?"
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AND, ASTONISHINGLY,
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT DOES.
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EVENTUALLY I FOUND THIS,
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AN ENTRANCE
INTO THE CLIFF ITSELF.
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WOW.
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WHAT DID GRAHAM FIND THAT HAD
BEEN HIDDEN AWAY UNDER THIS HILL
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OVER A CENTURY AGO?
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WAS IT THE CUP
THAT MARY MAGDALENE
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USED TO COLLECT THE BLOOD
OF JESUS AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION?
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OR WAS THIS WHOLE TREASURE HUNT
A CLEVER HOAX?
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STARTLING REVELATIONS
TO THIS MYSTERY
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WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY"
RETURNS.
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Narrator: OVER THE CENTURIES,
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DOZENS OF CUPS AND CHALICES
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HAVE BEEN HAILED
AS THE ACTUAL VESSEL
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THAT JESUS DRANK FROM
AT THE LAST SUPPER.
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BUT WHICH, IF ANY,
ARE THE REAL THING?
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JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON
HAS COME TO HAWKSTONE PARK
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IN THE HEART OF ENGLAND
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TO MEET AN AUTHOR
AND RESEARCHER, GRAHAM PHILLIPS,
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WHO BELIEVES
THAT HE HAS DISCOVERED THE CUP
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USED TO CATCH THE BLOOD OF JESUS
AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION.
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A LOCAL LAND OWNER
IN THE 18th CENTURY,
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THOMAS WRIGHT,
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CLAIMED THAT HE HAD INHERITED
THE CUP FROM HIS FAMILY
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AND THEN LEFT A SERIES OF CLUES
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AS TO WHERE IT COULD BE FOUND
ON HIS ESTATE.
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THESE HAVE NOW LED GRAHAM
AND JAMIE TO THE ENTRANCE
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OF AN UNDERGROUND LABYRINTH.
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HERE WE ARE,
DIRECTLY BELOW THE STONE ARCH.
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SO WE'RE WHERE THOMAS WRIGHT
WANTED US TO BE
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AT THE END
OF HIS TRAIL OF CLUES.
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IF HE'S TELLING THE TRUTH,
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SOMEWHERE HERE MUST BE
HIDDEN THE HOLY GRAIL.
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BUT WHERE?
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WHAT DO WE GOT IN HERE?
TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.
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THIS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT,
WAS ORIGINALLY AN EAGLE STATUE.
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Theakston: RIGHT.
THERE'S ITS BREASTS.
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THERE'S ITS LEGS.
THERE'S ITS WINGS.
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ITS HEAD WOULD HAVE BEEN
ABOUT THERE.
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NOW, THERE'S SOMETHING
I HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT
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THAT I'D ALSO FOUND OUT ALREADY
ABOUT THOMAS WRIGHT.
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AT THE SAME TIME AS HE
WAS LEAVING THIS TRAIL OF CLUES,
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HE HAD
A STAINED-GLASS WINDOW
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DESIGNED AND DONATED
TO HIS LOCAL CHURCH.
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AND IN THAT STAINED-GLASS WINDOW
IS DEPICTED MARY MAGDALENE
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HOLDING THE CHALICE.
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OKAY.
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AND DIRECTLY ABOVE HER HEAD
IS AN EAGLE.
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AND WHEN I FIRST
SAW THIS EAGLE STATUE
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OR DISCOVERED THAT IT HAD
ORIGINALLY HAD BEEN AN EAGLE,
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I THOUGHT "THIS HAS GOT TO BE
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WHERE THOMAS WRIGHT
HID THE GRAIL.
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MAYBE HE'S HIDDEN IT
INSIDE IT SOMEHOW."
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BUT IT'S ALL BROKEN UP,
AND WHEN I FOUND IT,
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IT WAS IN THE SAME CONDITION
AS THIS.
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SO, I LOOKED
INTO THE HISTORY
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TO FIND OUT
HOW IT GOT IN THIS CONDITION.
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AND I FOUND OUT
THAT IN THE 1920s,
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A LOCAL BUSINESSMAN
CALLED WALTER LANGHAM
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DECIDED THAT HE WANTED TO HAVE
THIS MOVED OUT
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AND PUT IT IN HIS GARDEN.
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WHEN HE TRIED TO HAVE IT MOVED
BECAUSE IT'S A HEAVY THING...
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YEAH,
YOU'RE NOT GONNA MOVE THAT.
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THE TACKLE BROKE,
AND THE THING SMASHED APART.
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00:12:27,567 --> 00:12:29,066
BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING,
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AS I FOUND OUT A LITTLE STORY
IN A NEWSPAPER FROM THE TIME,
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IS THAT,
WHEN THE BASE WAS BROKEN,
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INSIDE THEY FOUND
A SMALL STONE CUP,
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WHICH THEY THOUGHT
WAS OF INTEREST AT THE TIME.
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BUT THEY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHY.
END OF STORY.
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AND I THOUGHT, "OH, MY GOODNESS.
QUITE BY ACCIDENT...
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QUITE BY ACCIDENT,
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SOMEBODY HAD FOUND
THOMAS WRIGHT'S GRAIL."
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A SMALL, STONE CUP
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IS EXACTLY
WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE.
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I DECIDED TO FIND OUT
FROM HIS DESCENDANTS,
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IF THEY WERE STILL ALIVE,
WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO THIS THING.
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AND I MANAGED TO SPEAK TO
HIS GREAT-GREAT-GRANDDAUGHTER,
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VISITED HER.
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AND I SAID, "DO YOU KNOW
WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT CUP?"
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SHE SAID, "WELL, WE...
I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY
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THOUGHT IT WAS SOME KIND
OF VICTORIAN MUSTARD POT
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OR SOMETHING, BUT, YES,
WE'VE STILL GOT IT."
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"REALLY?
CAN I SEE IT?"
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AND SHE TOOK ME UP
INTO THE ATTIC...
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RIGHT.
AND IN NEWSPAPER,
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WRAPPED UP
IN OLD NEWSPAPER
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AMONGST CUPS AND SAUCERS
AND THAT WAS THIS.
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AND THIS IS...
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[ Chuckling ]
OKAY. THIS IS IT.
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THIS IS WHAT WAS IN HER ATTIC
ALL WRAPPED UP IN NEWSPAPER.
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OH.
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THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL?
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YOU SEE, I'VE SEEN PICTURES
OF JESUS DRINKING FROM A CUP
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IN THE LAST SUPPER.
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THIS IS MORE OF AN EGG-CUP SIZE
THAN A...
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I WAS EXPECTING A CHALICE.
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WELL, PRECISELY.
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THE STORY
OF THE MARY MAGDALENE GRAIL
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IS THAT SHE USED A SMALL SCENT
JAR TO CATCH DROPS OF BLOOD
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WHILE
JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS.
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I ASKED THE LADY WHO OWNED IT
IF I COULD BORROW IT.
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SHE SAID, "YEAH."
I WENT TO ARCHAEOLOGISTS,
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00:14:14,633 --> 00:14:17,800
ASKED THEM WHAT THIS WAS.
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00:14:17,833 --> 00:14:20,567
I DIDN'T SAY,
"IS THIS THE GRAIL OR WHAT?"
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00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,667
I BASICALLY JUST SAID, YOU KNOW,
"WHAT IS THIS?"
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00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:28,066
AND THEY FIRSTLY SAID,
"WELL, THAT'S A ROMAN SCENT JAR
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PROBABLY DATING
FROM THE 1st CENTURY A.D."
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00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:36,800
THEY SAID SECONDLY,
"IT'S MADE OF ALABASTER."
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WELL, IN THE BIBLE,
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IT TELLS US IT'S A SCENT JAR
BELONGING TO MARY MAGDALENE
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2,000 YEARS AGO
MADE OF ALABASTER.
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00:14:44,867 --> 00:14:46,376
AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW
WHERE IT CAME FROM?"
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00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,267
AND THEY SAID,
"OF THE TYPE OF STONE,
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SOMEWHERE
IN THE PALESTINE AREA."
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SO YOU MAY BE
HOLDING IN YOUR HAND
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THE MOST PRECIOUS ARTIFACT
IN THE WORLD.
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00:14:57,367 --> 00:14:59,133
WOW.
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00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:04,800
THE HAWKSTONE CUP IS INTERESTING
BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CHALICE.
302
00:15:04,833 --> 00:15:09,233
IT'S ACTUALLY A 1st-CENTURY
PERFUME JAR WITHOUT ITS LID.
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00:15:09,267 --> 00:15:12,267
AND AS SUCH, IT IS NOT LINKED
WITH THE LAST SUPPER.
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IT IS LINKED
WITH MARY MAGDALENE,
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00:15:14,167 --> 00:15:16,067
WHO ANOINTED JESUS
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WITH INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE
SPIKENARD PERFUME.
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00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,133
AND THAT'S VERY INTERESTING
THAT THE FAMILY THAT OWNED THIS
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AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED
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THAT IT'S CONNECTED
WITH A GRAIL-LIKE THING.
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IT'S A GRAIL-LIKE STORY.
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[ SOBS ]
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Gough: THE BRITISH MUSEUM
DATES IT TO THE 1st CENTURY
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MIDDLE EAST, RIGHT?
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SO ANYTHING THAT'S DATED NOW
TO THE 1st CENTURY MIDDLE EAST,
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WELL, OF COURSE,
IT HAS TO BE THE GRAIL, RIGHT?
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00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,100
AND PEOPLE MAKE THIS GREAT LEAP
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00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:47,200
FROM, "NO,
IT'S LOVELY ANCIENT ARTIFACT."
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00:15:47,233 --> 00:15:49,300
MAYBE IT WAS IN THE POSSESSION
OF A WEALTHY FAMILY.
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00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:53,667
FANTASTIC. THAT'S AMAZING.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT THE GRAIL.
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Narrator:
THE SMALL, EGG-CUP-SHAPED VESSEL
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IS NOT EVERYONE'S IDEA
OF THE HOLY GRAIL,
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LOOKING RATHER SMALL AND PLAIN.
323
00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:08,467
BUT WHEN YOU TAKE A CLOSER LOOK
AT DA VINCI'S LAST SUPPER,
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00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:12,200
GUESS WHAT'S SITTING
ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF JESUS.
325
00:16:12,233 --> 00:16:15,133
A SMALL, GREENISH CUP.
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00:16:19,167 --> 00:16:21,967
Fanthorpe:
IT'S NOT VERY PROBABLE
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00:16:22,067 --> 00:16:27,200
BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND THE
MATERIAL OF WHICH IT IS MADE.
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00:16:27,233 --> 00:16:30,433
BUT THERE ARE THOSE
WHO BELIEVE IT TO BE
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00:16:30,467 --> 00:16:33,167
A VERY INTERESTING
PIECE OF HISTORY.
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00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,967
THOUGH, I WOULDN'T PUT IT
VERY HIGH ON THE LIST
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00:16:36,067 --> 00:16:40,433
OF CLAIMANTS
TO BE THE REAL HOLY GRAIL.
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Narrator:
IS THIS WOODEN DRINKING BOWL
THE REAL HOLY GRAIL?
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00:16:44,267 --> 00:16:46,567
WAS IT BROUGHT TO BRITAIN
FROM THE HOLY LAND
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00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,667
AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION BY JESUS'
UNCLE, JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA?
335
00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:54,933
AND DOES IT REALLY
HAVE MIRACULOUS HEALING POWERS?
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00:16:54,967 --> 00:16:57,100
THIS INCREDIBLE STORY CONTINUES
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00:16:57,133 --> 00:17:00,267
WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY"
RETURNS.
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Narrator:
JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON
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IS ON THE TRAIL
OF THE HOLY GRAIL.
340
00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:08,633
LOTS OF CUPS AND CHALICES
DOWN THROUGH THE CENTURIES
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HAVE CLAIMED
TO BE THE REAL THING,
342
00:17:11,067 --> 00:17:12,500
BUT ARE THEY?
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00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:15,967
HIS SEARCH HAS, SO FAR, TAKEN
HIM TO SHROPSHIRE IN ENGLAND
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00:17:16,067 --> 00:17:20,333
AND THE FABLED HAWKSTONE GRAIL
HIDDEN INSIDE A HILLSIDE.
345
00:17:20,367 --> 00:17:23,533
AND NOW HE HAS COME
TO A COUNTRY ESTATE IN WALES
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00:17:23,567 --> 00:17:25,333
TO SEE THE NANTEOS CUP,
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00:17:25,367 --> 00:17:28,567
A SMALL WOODEN DRINKING
BOWL THAT LEGEND SAYS
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WAS BROUGHT BACK
FROM THE LAST SUPPER
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BY JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA.
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00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:36,133
ACCORDING TO PEOPLE
WHO HAVE DRUNK FROM THE CUP,
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IT HAS AMAZING HEALING POWERS.
352
00:17:38,733 --> 00:17:42,433
BUT COULD THIS REALLY
BE THE TRUE HOLY GRAIL?
353
00:17:42,467 --> 00:17:46,133
I'VE MET SOMEBODY
WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN HEALED.
354
00:17:46,167 --> 00:17:48,267
I BELIEVE HER WHEN SHE SAYS
SHE WAS HEALED BY IT.
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00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:50,067
WHY NOT?
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00:17:54,767 --> 00:17:56,300
Narrator: AS THE STORY GOES,
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JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA,
JESUS' UNCLE,
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00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:02,867
BROUGHT THE CUP FROM
THE LAST SUPPER TO GLASTONBURY,
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00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:06,433
WHERE HE FOUNDED THE FIRST
CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN BRITAIN.
360
00:18:06,467 --> 00:18:09,100
WE KNOW IT TODAY
AS GLASTONBURY ABBEY.
361
00:18:09,133 --> 00:18:12,533
IT WAS WORSHIPPED THERE
AS A SACRED RELIC FOR CENTURIES
362
00:18:12,567 --> 00:18:15,500
UNTIL HENRY THE VIII's
DISILLUSION OF THE MONASTERIES
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00:18:15,533 --> 00:18:17,133
IN THE 15th CENTURY,
364
00:18:17,167 --> 00:18:19,333
WHEN A GROUP OF MONKS RESCUED IT
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00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:22,700
AND ESCAPED TO STRATA FLORIDA
ABBEY IN WALES,
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00:18:22,733 --> 00:18:26,067
JUST A SHORT DISTANCE
FROM NANTEOS HOUSE.
367
00:18:28,067 --> 00:18:29,933
BEFORE THE FINAL MONK DIED,
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HE PASSED THE CUP ON
TO THOMAS STEDMAN,
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00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:37,967
THE OWNER OF NANTEOS,
FOR SAFE KEEPING.
370
00:18:38,067 --> 00:18:41,733
THE SMALL WOODEN CUP PASSED
FROM OWNER TO OWNER OF NANTEOS
371
00:18:41,767 --> 00:18:44,367
WITHOUT MUCH ATTENTION
BEING PAID TO IT
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UNTIL THE POWELL FAMILY
TOOK OVER THE ESTATE
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IN THE MID-19th CENTURY,
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00:18:48,867 --> 00:18:52,100
WHEN IT BECAME KNOWN LOCALLY
AS THE HEALING CUP.
375
00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:53,567
THERE ARE RECORDS
376
00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,167
OF MRS. POWELL ALLOWING PEOPLE
TO DRINK FROM THE CUP
377
00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,567
AND THEN BEING HEALED.
378
00:19:00,167 --> 00:19:03,233
IN 1905,
IT WAS EXHIBITED LOCALLY
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00:19:03,267 --> 00:19:06,567
AND REFERRED TO
AS THE WELSH HOLY GRAIL.
380
00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,133
AND, ALMOST OVERNIGHT,
ITS FAME SPREAD FAR AND WIDE.
381
00:19:11,167 --> 00:19:14,066
GERALD MORGAN HAS STUDIED
AND INVESTIGATED
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00:19:14,067 --> 00:19:17,600
THE CLAIMS OF THE NANTEOS CUP
FOR OVER 30 YEARS
383
00:19:17,633 --> 00:19:19,500
AND REMEMBERS SEEING
THE ORIGINAL CUP
384
00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:22,600
ON DISPLAY INSIDE THE HOUSE.
385
00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:26,633
OH, THIS IS THE ROOM
386
00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:30,433
WHERE I REMEMBER COMING
TO SEE THE SIDEBOARD HERE...
387
00:19:30,467 --> 00:19:32,467
WHERE THE CUP
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00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:36,667
WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE
SIDEBOARD, AS I REMEMBER IT.
389
00:19:36,700 --> 00:19:38,767
Theakston: SO, THIS IS
WHERE YOU FIRST SAW THE CUP?
390
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,100
OH, YEAH.
HERE IN THIS CORNER.
391
00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:42,867
AND IS THIS IT HERE?
392
00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:46,066
THAT'S A GOOD PHOTOGRAPH
OF IT.
393
00:19:46,067 --> 00:19:48,867
IT DOESN'T LOOK MUCH
LIKE A CUP.
394
00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:50,309
I MEAN, IT'S...
IT'S QUITE BADLY DAMAGED.
395
00:19:50,333 --> 00:19:52,900
WELL, THIS IS THE RIM.
AND IT WOULD HAVE GONE...
396
00:19:52,933 --> 00:19:54,967
NEARLY HALF
THE CUP HAS BEEN LOST.
397
00:19:55,067 --> 00:19:57,533
THE BASE IS STILL THERE,
BUT NEARLY HALF THE CUP
398
00:19:57,567 --> 00:19:58,933
HAS BEEN LOST.
IT'S BEEN BROKEN.
399
00:19:58,967 --> 00:20:01,767
IT WAS PROBABLY BROKEN
A VERY LONG TIME AGO.
400
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,533
AND OF COURSE,
THE LEGEND GREW UP
401
00:20:03,567 --> 00:20:07,400
THAT ALL OF THIS WAS
CAUSED BY PEOPLE NIBBLING IT.
402
00:20:07,433 --> 00:20:10,400
WELL,
BECAUSE THEY WANTED BITS,
403
00:20:10,433 --> 00:20:12,367
PRESUMABLY AS SOUVENIRS.
404
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,900
WELL, THIS IS RUBBISH.
405
00:20:13,933 --> 00:20:18,333
IT'S A CLASSIC FOLK LEGEND
TO EXPLAIN A PHENOMENON.
406
00:20:18,367 --> 00:20:21,367
WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT
IS A MEDIEVAL MAZER CUP
407
00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,933
WHICH PROBABLY HAD A METAL RIM
AROUND THE TOP,
408
00:20:23,967 --> 00:20:25,900
MIGHT EVEN BE SILVER.
409
00:20:25,933 --> 00:20:28,367
IT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY MADE
OF WYCH ELM.
410
00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,933
IT'S CERTAINLY NOT
OLIVE WOOD,
411
00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:33,167
WHICH IS VERY TIGHTLY GRAINED
AND A VERY, VERY HARD WOOD.
412
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,167
THIS ISN'T VERY HARD.
413
00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,033
YOU CAN SEE
HOW BROAD THE GRAIN IS.
414
00:20:36,067 --> 00:20:37,167
RIGHT.
415
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,500
THERE ARE SO MANY LEGENDS
ABOUT IT
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00:20:39,533 --> 00:20:43,767
TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THIS
AND JUSTIFY THIS STORY.
417
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:49,533
BUT CERTAINLY, IT WAS USED
AS A HEALING CUP.
418
00:20:49,567 --> 00:20:53,267
Fanthorpe: THE NANTEOS CUP
IS OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO ME
419
00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:55,933
BECAUSE
I'VE ACTUALLY HANDLED IT.
420
00:20:55,967 --> 00:20:59,367
AND I'VE TAKEN HOLY WATER
FROM IT,
421
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,700
WHICH I HAVE GIVEN,
WHEN THEY REQUESTED IT,
422
00:21:02,733 --> 00:21:08,600
TO SICK FRIENDS OR PEOPLE
WHO HAD CONTACTED ME ABOUT IT.
423
00:21:08,633 --> 00:21:12,300
NOW, I'VE ALSO SEEN
THE ANCIENT BOOK
424
00:21:12,333 --> 00:21:15,400
IN WHICH THE CUP WAS RECORDED
425
00:21:15,433 --> 00:21:18,233
WHEN IT WENT
IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSEHOLD
426
00:21:18,267 --> 00:21:20,367
TO HELP SOMEBODY SICK.
427
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,600
AND THERE ARE ENTRIES
SUCH AS,
428
00:21:24,633 --> 00:21:27,867
"CUP WAS LENT
TO JOHN THE PLOWMAN."
429
00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:30,667
NEXT DAY,
"HE HAS BROUGHT BACK THE CUP,
430
00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,933
HAVING GIVEN HIS WIFE
WATER FROM IT,
431
00:21:32,967 --> 00:21:36,733
AND SHE IS NOW MUCH BETTER
AFTER THE FEVER."
432
00:21:36,767 --> 00:21:39,633
AND THERE'S A WHOLE BOOK
OF THESE ENTRIES,
433
00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:44,133
OF WHERE WATER FROM THE CUP
HAS ALLEGEDLY DONE GOOD.
434
00:21:47,067 --> 00:21:49,367
Butler:
I KNOW IN A LOT OF THE CASES,
435
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:55,367
UM, THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO DRINK
OUT OF THESE CUPS, UM,
436
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,900
ARE QUITE OFTEN HEALED
437
00:21:57,933 --> 00:22:02,533
AND HEALED
FROM VERY GENUINE COMPLAINTS.
438
00:22:02,567 --> 00:22:06,066
NOW, IS IT THEIR OWN FAITH
439
00:22:06,067 --> 00:22:09,167
THAT'S HEALED THEM, OR IS IT
SOMETHING MORE GOING ON?
440
00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:15,433
Cox: YOU HAVE THESE CUPS THAT
ARE ASSOCIATED WITH MIRACLES
441
00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,467
AND VARIOUS MIRACULOUS ACTS
AND HEALING.
442
00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,400
AND IT'S
ALL AN AGENDA-DRIVEN EXERCISE.
443
00:22:21,433 --> 00:22:24,600
THESE TEND TO BE
ASSOCIATED WITH CHRISTIAN
444
00:22:24,633 --> 00:22:27,433
OR WITH MODERN RELIGIOUS IDEALS.
445
00:22:27,467 --> 00:22:32,233
AND SO, IF YOU'RE A BELIEVER,
THEN THE CUP IS SPECIAL.
446
00:22:32,267 --> 00:22:34,467
IF YOU'RE A BELIEVER,
THEN YOU WILL HAVE THE MIRACLE
447
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,667
BECAUSE MIRACLES RELY ON YOU,
448
00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:40,633
THE PERSON, THE OBSERVER, OR THE
PERSON WHO'S GETTING THE MIRACLE
449
00:22:40,667 --> 00:22:43,100
ACTUALLY WANTING IT, OWNING IT,
AND BELIEVING IT
450
00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:46,333
BECAUSE,
IF YOU DON'T, IT DOESN'T.
451
00:22:46,367 --> 00:22:49,066
Theakston:
THE OTHER GRAILS LOOK NICE,
AND THEY'RE PRETTY CHALICES,
452
00:22:49,067 --> 00:22:53,066
BUT THIS SEEMS TO ACTUALLY HAVE
A BENEFIT TO ITS BODY.
453
00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:54,933
YES, THAT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE
BELIEVE IN IT.
454
00:22:54,967 --> 00:22:56,100
IT'S NOTHING TO DO
455
00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:58,433
WITH IT HAVING BEEN
IN THE HANDS OF JESUS
456
00:22:58,467 --> 00:22:59,633
BECAUSE IT NEVER WAS.
457
00:22:59,667 --> 00:23:03,533
IT WAS ONLY MADE ABOUT 500 YEARS
AGO AT THE MOST.
458
00:23:03,567 --> 00:23:06,200
BUT YOU DON'T DOUBT
ITS HEALING PROPERTIES.
459
00:23:06,233 --> 00:23:07,900
NO, I'VE MET SOMEBODY
460
00:23:07,933 --> 00:23:13,233
WHO GENUINELY CLAIMS
TO HAVE BEEN HEALED.
461
00:23:13,267 --> 00:23:15,333
I BELIEVE HER WHEN SHE SAYS
SHE WAS HEALED BY IT.
462
00:23:15,367 --> 00:23:17,167
WHY NOT?
463
00:23:20,067 --> 00:23:23,500
Narrator:
THE DEEPER JAMIE DELVED
INTO THIS REMARKABLE STORY,
464
00:23:23,533 --> 00:23:26,167
THE MORE MYSTERIOUS IT GOT.
465
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,200
WHY WERE COPIES
OF THE NANTEOS CUP MADE?
466
00:23:29,233 --> 00:23:32,533
WHY WAS THE ORIGINAL CUP
SMUGGLED OUT OF WALES.
467
00:23:32,567 --> 00:23:34,600
AND WHERE IS IT TODAY?
468
00:23:34,633 --> 00:23:39,067
STARTLING REVELATIONS WHEN
"FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS.
469
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,167
Narrator:
JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON
470
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,700
IS ON THE HUNT
FOR THE REAL HOLY GRAIL,
471
00:23:45,733 --> 00:23:47,700
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY CUPS
AND CHALICES
472
00:23:47,733 --> 00:23:49,067
THAT CLAIM THAT TITLE.
473
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:51,467
WHICH, IF ANY, ARE TRUE?
474
00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:53,433
SO FAR,
HE HAS BEEN SHOWN A SMALL,
475
00:23:53,467 --> 00:23:55,433
EGG-CUP-SHAPED OINTMENT JAR
476
00:23:55,467 --> 00:23:58,133
THAT IS SAID TO HAVE BEEN
USED BY MARY MAGDALENE
477
00:23:58,167 --> 00:24:01,633
TO CATCH THE BLOOD OF JESUS
AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION.
478
00:24:01,667 --> 00:24:03,567
AND NOW HE HAS COME TO WALES
479
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,067
TO EXAMINE
A SMALL WOODEN DRINKING BOWL
480
00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,400
THAT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN
BROUGHT BACK TO BRITAIN
481
00:24:08,433 --> 00:24:09,767
FROM THE LAST SUPPER
482
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,633
BY JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA,
JESUS' UNCLE.
483
00:24:13,667 --> 00:24:16,066
IT'S SAID TO HAVE
AMAZING HEALING POWERS
484
00:24:16,067 --> 00:24:17,800
FROM THOSE
WHO HAVE DRUNK FROM IT.
485
00:24:17,833 --> 00:24:21,900
SO, COULD THIS LITTLE
BROKEN BOWL BE THE REAL THING?
486
00:24:21,933 --> 00:24:23,343
Theakston:
AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED,
487
00:24:23,367 --> 00:24:26,633
THIS WAS THE CUP THAT JESUS
DRANK FROM AT THE LAST SUPPER.
488
00:24:26,667 --> 00:24:28,467
Mirylees: YES.
489
00:24:35,067 --> 00:24:36,967
NIGEL JONES, THE CHEF
490
00:24:37,067 --> 00:24:39,567
AND GENERAL MANAGER
OF NANTEOS HOUSE,
491
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,867
BELIEVES THAT HE SPOTTED
SOME DISCREPANCIES
492
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:44,767
BETWEEN TWO HISTORICAL
PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CUP.
493
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,933
AND HE WANTS TO SHOW THEM
TO JAMIE
494
00:24:46,967 --> 00:24:49,067
TO SEE WHAT HE MAKES OF THEM.
495
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:51,167
Theakston: THAT'S THE DAMAGE
THERE, RIGHT?
496
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,609
Jones: IT'S SIMILAR
TO THE DAMAGE THERE,
497
00:24:52,633 --> 00:24:55,433
BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME, IS IT?
IT ISN'T THE SAME.
498
00:24:55,467 --> 00:24:56,900
SO, WHICH IS THE REAL ONE?
499
00:24:56,933 --> 00:24:58,133
I BELIEVE
THIS IS THE REAL ONE,
500
00:24:58,167 --> 00:24:59,233
AND THAT'S THE COPY.
501
00:24:59,267 --> 00:25:00,733
WHY DID THEY MAKE A COPY?
502
00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:03,867
THE POWELLS MADE A COPY BECAUSE,
WITH PEOPLE DRINKING FROM IT,
503
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,667
THEY USED TO NIBBLE BITS OFF,
AND IT BECAME TOO DAMAGED.
504
00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:09,100
AND SO, TO PRESERVE IT,
THEY HAD A COPY MADE.
505
00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:10,267
IS IT HERE IN THE HOUSE?
506
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:11,733
THAT COPY
IS NOT IN THE HOUSE.
507
00:25:11,767 --> 00:25:13,067
THERE IS ANOTHER ONE.
508
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:15,267
OKAY. CAN I SEE THAT ONE?
YEAH, SURE.
509
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,567
SAFELY KEPT IN A JIFFY BAG.
510
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,109
I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING
TO FIND THE HOLY GRAIL
511
00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:25,800
IN A JIFFY BAG.
512
00:25:25,833 --> 00:25:27,900
RIGHT.
SO, THIS IS A REPLICA.
513
00:25:27,933 --> 00:25:30,767
IT'S A REPLICA
OF A SIMILAR CUP. YEAH.
514
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,667
RIGHT. OKAY.
IT'S EXTRAORDINARY.
515
00:25:36,467 --> 00:25:37,933
[ BIRDS CAWING ]
516
00:25:41,567 --> 00:25:44,066
THE PLOT WAS GETTING THICKER.
517
00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:47,567
FROM WHAT JAMIE HAD FOUND OUT,
THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL CUP,
518
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,133
WHICH WAS TO SUPPOSED TO HAVE
COME BACK FROM THE HOLY LAND
519
00:25:50,167 --> 00:25:52,800
VIA GLASTONBURY TO WALES.
520
00:25:52,833 --> 00:25:54,833
MRS. POWELL THEN MADE A COPY
OF IT
521
00:25:54,867 --> 00:25:57,333
ONCE PEOPLE
STARTED BITING PIECES OFF,
522
00:25:57,367 --> 00:26:01,467
HENCE THE DISCREPANCIES
IN THE PHOTOS.
523
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,867
BUT TODAY,
NEITHER ARE IN NANTEOS,
524
00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,733
JUST THE REPLICA
IN THE PAPER BAG.
525
00:26:10,467 --> 00:26:13,267
SO, WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL CUP?
526
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,067
JAMIE WAS TOLD THAT IT'S KEPT
527
00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,567
BY A DESCENDANT
OF THE MIRYLEES FAMILY,
528
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,933
WHO INHERITED NANTEOS
FROM THE POWELLS
529
00:26:20,967 --> 00:26:24,067
AND IS RARELY EVER SEEN.
530
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,567
BUT WHEN HE EXPLAINED HIS QUEST
TO HER,
531
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,533
FIONA MIRYLEES AGREED TO LET
HIM SEE THE CUP
532
00:26:29,567 --> 00:26:32,567
AS WELL AS THE ACTUAL
WRITTEN RECORDS OF HEALINGS
533
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,200
THAT ARE KEPT WITH IT.
534
00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:44,333
YOU... YOU BELIEVE
THAT THIS IS 2,000 YEARS OLD.
535
00:26:44,367 --> 00:26:46,533
YES.
536
00:26:46,567 --> 00:26:49,700
WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S THE CUP
FROM THE LAST SUPPER?
537
00:26:49,733 --> 00:26:53,333
WELL,
IT HAS SUCH AMAZING POWERS.
538
00:26:53,367 --> 00:26:58,500
IN IT, YOU CAN SEE,
LIKE, A COMMUNION CUP.
539
00:26:58,533 --> 00:26:59,900
CAN I... CAN I TOUCH IT?
540
00:27:00,067 --> 00:27:01,867
ONLY VERY GENTLY.
VERY GENTLY.
541
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,233
WELL, CAN I... IF I JUST...
DO YOU MIND ME DOING THIS?
542
00:27:04,267 --> 00:27:06,100
I'LL KEEP IT IN THE GLASS.
YEAH.
543
00:27:06,133 --> 00:27:07,509
IF I CAN OPEN THIS,
IS THAT ALL RIGHT?
544
00:27:07,533 --> 00:27:09,100
JUST LEAVE IT THERE.
545
00:27:09,133 --> 00:27:12,066
OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. I UNDERSTAND.
IT'S VERY...
546
00:27:12,067 --> 00:27:14,467
IS IT QUITE FRAGILE?
YES.
547
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,833
DO PEOPLE
PUT BITS OF PAPER IN IT?
548
00:27:17,867 --> 00:27:20,667
UM, THESE ARE THE CURES.
549
00:27:21,833 --> 00:27:23,809
DO YOU WANT ME TO... I'LL HOLD
THE BOOKS FOR YOU THERE.
550
00:27:23,833 --> 00:27:25,600
YEAH.
551
00:27:34,467 --> 00:27:36,900
AND SO,
WHAT ACTUALLY ARE THESE?
552
00:27:42,767 --> 00:27:45,066
CAN I HOLD THIS?
YES.
553
00:27:45,067 --> 00:27:49,367
SO, THIS IS DATED
31st OF MAY, 1858.
554
00:27:51,267 --> 00:27:56,133
FOR THE USE
OF THE WIFE OF JAMES MORGAN.
555
00:27:56,167 --> 00:27:57,367
CURED.
556
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,800
SO, WHAT DID THESE ACTUALLY
MEAN, THESE BITS OF PAPER?
557
00:27:59,833 --> 00:28:03,500
WELL, THEY'VE DRANK THE WATER
FROM THE CUP,
558
00:28:03,533 --> 00:28:05,133
AND THEY'RE CURED.
559
00:28:05,167 --> 00:28:06,833
RIGHT. OKAY.
560
00:28:06,867 --> 00:28:11,733
AND THIS... THIS IS FROM,
WELL, 150 YEARS AGO?
561
00:28:11,767 --> 00:28:14,533
THAT'S RIGHT.
562
00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:17,233
DO YOU BELIEVE
THAT THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL?
563
00:28:17,267 --> 00:28:19,267
YES.
YES, I DO.
564
00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:21,467
AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT?
565
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,600
WELL, I HAVE SEEN
A LOT OF PEOPLE CURED.
566
00:28:24,633 --> 00:28:27,567
AND IT HAS A MARVELOUS FEELING
TO IT.
567
00:28:31,533 --> 00:28:34,100
HAS ANY ANALYSIS
BEEN DONE ON THE CUP
568
00:28:34,133 --> 00:28:35,800
TO PROVE HOW OLD IT IS?
569
00:28:35,833 --> 00:28:37,133
UM, NO.
570
00:28:37,167 --> 00:28:42,767
MY MOTHER ALWAYS SAID
SHE DIDN'T WANT CARBON DATING.
571
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,200
WHY IS THAT?
572
00:28:44,233 --> 00:28:48,533
WELL, SHE JUST THOUGHT
PEOPLE SHOULD BELIEVE IN IT.
573
00:28:52,067 --> 00:28:53,400
BUT AS FAR
AS YOU'RE CONCERNED,
574
00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:56,467
THIS WAS THE CUP THAT JESUS
DRANK FROM AT THE LAST SUPPER.
575
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,300
YES.
576
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,633
IF A PERSON WAS TO DRINK
FROM ONE OF THESE CUPS,
577
00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:06,933
AND THEY WERE HEALED,
LIKE INTERACTING WITH ANY RELIC,
578
00:29:06,967 --> 00:29:09,433
IT BECOMES TRUE FOR YOU.
579
00:29:09,467 --> 00:29:13,100
SO IT MAY BE THAT THAT'S
A SPIRITUAL PATH TO YOUR GOD,
580
00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:16,333
BUT IT'S A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD
581
00:29:16,367 --> 00:29:19,933
AND AN OBJECT THAT YOU
EMPOWER AND GIVE THE POWER TO
582
00:29:19,967 --> 00:29:23,933
AND BELIEVE THAT CAN ACTION
THAT, CAN ENABLE THAT.
583
00:29:23,967 --> 00:29:26,200
THEN THAT WILL BECOME YOUR GRAIL
IN A WAY.
584
00:29:26,233 --> 00:29:28,167
THAT BECOMES REAL FOR YOU.
585
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,667
Picknett:
IF YOU DRINK FROM A GRAIL,
586
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:37,067
A CUP THAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE
ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOLY GRAIL,
587
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,400
AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR MIGRAINE
STOPS IMMEDIATELY
588
00:29:40,433 --> 00:29:43,233
OR, YOU KNOW, YOU GROW
ANOTHER LEG OR SOMETHING,
589
00:29:43,267 --> 00:29:46,467
OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE HOLY GRAIL
FOR YOU.
590
00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:49,167
IT'S WHAT MATTERS TO YOU.
591
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,567
AND IT'S
A PERSONAL ASSOCIATION.
592
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,066
IT'S AN INTIMATE CONNECTION
593
00:29:54,067 --> 00:29:57,067
WITH THE MAGICAL LEVEL
OF THE GRAIL.
594
00:29:59,533 --> 00:30:02,833
Narrator: FIONA MIRYLEES
HAS AN UNSHAKABLE FAITH
595
00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:06,700
THAT THE CUP IN HER POSSESSION
IS THE REAL HOLY GRAIL.
596
00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:08,400
BUT MAYBE THE LOCAL HISTORIAN
597
00:30:08,433 --> 00:30:12,133
GERALD MORGAN'S VERSION OF
EVENTS WAS CLOSER TO THE TRUTH.
598
00:30:12,167 --> 00:30:14,800
HE BELIEVES THAT MRS. POWELL
WAS IN POSSESSION
599
00:30:14,833 --> 00:30:16,733
OF AN OLD MEDIEVAL BOWL
600
00:30:16,767 --> 00:30:19,967
AROUND WHICH A WHOLE GRAIL SAGA
WAS WEAVED,
601
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,333
CREATING THE MYTH WE HAVE TODAY.
602
00:30:22,367 --> 00:30:26,100
BUT IS THERE ANY DECENT EVIDENCE
THAT THIS SMALL BROWN BOWL
603
00:30:26,133 --> 00:30:30,600
WAS EVER IN THE HANDS OF JOSEPH
OF ARIMATHEA, LET ALONE JESUS?
604
00:30:30,633 --> 00:30:32,167
UNFORTUNATELY, NO.
605
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,067
IT'S A NICE STORY AND ONE
THAT'S CONVINCED ENOUGH PEOPLE
606
00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,267
TO ACTUALLY BITE CHUNKS
OUT OF THE CUP OVER THE YEARS.
607
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:40,833
BUT IS THIS REALLY
THE HOLY GRAIL?
608
00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:43,600
MOST PEOPLE REMAIN UNCONVINCED.
609
00:30:50,067 --> 00:30:55,767
NEXT ON JAMIE'S LIST IS NOT SO
MUCH A GRAIL AS A GRAIL CLUE.
610
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200
AT SHUGBOROUGH HALL
IN STAFFORDSHIRE,
611
00:30:58,233 --> 00:31:01,267
THERE'S A PECULIAR
STONE MONUMENT IN ITS GROUNDS
612
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:04,067
THAT SOME CLAIM
CONTAINS A HIDDEN CLUE
613
00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:09,066
AS TO WHAT AND WHERE
THE TRUE HOLY GRAIL IS.
614
00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:11,667
IT WAS BUILT
IN THE EARLY 18th CENTURY
615
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,533
BY A WEALTHY LANDOWNER
CALLED THOMAS ANSON,
616
00:31:14,567 --> 00:31:16,533
THE SON OF A FAMOUS ADMIRAL,
617
00:31:16,567 --> 00:31:20,767
WHO WAS SAID TO HAVE CAPTURED
A VAST SPANISH TREASURE.
618
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,633
IT DEPICTS A PAINTING CALLED
"THE SHEPHERDS OF ARCADIA"
619
00:31:24,667 --> 00:31:26,400
BY NICOLAS POUSSIN,
620
00:31:26,433 --> 00:31:30,400
WHERE THREE MEN AND A WOMAN
ALL POINT TO A TOMB.
621
00:31:30,433 --> 00:31:32,267
BUT HERE,
FOR NO APPARENT REASON,
622
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:35,567
IT'S CARVED IN BAS-RELIEF
IN REVERSE.
623
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,733
MOST CURIOUS OF ALL ARE A SERIES
OF EIGHT LETTERS
624
00:31:38,767 --> 00:31:41,300
ON THE BASE OF THE MONUMENT
WHICH HAVE, SO FAR,
625
00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:43,800
ELUDED ALL ATTEMPTS
TO DECODE THEM.
626
00:31:43,833 --> 00:31:46,733
EVEN CHARLES DICKENS
MADE AN ATTEMPT.
627
00:31:48,833 --> 00:31:51,567
BRETT HARRISON WORKS
FOR SHUGBOROUGH HALL
628
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,500
AND HAS BECOME SOMETHING
OF AN EXPERT ON THE MONUMENT.
629
00:31:54,533 --> 00:31:58,066
HE THINKS THERE COULD WELL
BE A NUMBER OF CLUES
630
00:31:58,067 --> 00:32:01,633
TO THE HOLY GRAIL
HIDDEN IN THE STONE CARVINGS,
631
00:32:01,667 --> 00:32:05,867
POSSIBLY LEADING
TO THE TOMB OF JESUS.
632
00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,867
IT'S A CLASSICAL SETTING,
BUT WHAT'S THE GRAIL CONNECTION?
633
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,633
WELL, IF YOU REMEMBER, JESUS
WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SHEPHERD...
634
00:32:17,667 --> 00:32:19,567
SHEPHERD OF THE FLOCK.
635
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,167
THE FLOCK BEING PEOPLE,
MORE PEOPLE.
636
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,267
SO, THE SHEPHERDS
GUARDING THE TOMB.
637
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:26,467
ARE THEY?
638
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:28,400
REMEMBER THE POUSSIN PAINTING
WAS REVERSED;
639
00:32:28,433 --> 00:32:29,833
THE SHEPHERDESS IS.
640
00:32:29,867 --> 00:32:34,200
UH, THE TOMB
COULD BE WHERE THE GRAIL IS.
641
00:32:35,767 --> 00:32:39,333
SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING
THAT THE TOMB OF JESUS
642
00:32:39,367 --> 00:32:42,367
COULD BE THE GRAIL
AS OPPOSED TO A CUP.
643
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,700
AS THE HOLY GRAIL
OR AS A CONCEPT,
644
00:32:45,733 --> 00:32:47,667
OR YOU CAN BRING IN
SOME PEOPLE
645
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,300
AS TO THEIR MARY MAGDALENE SIDE,
AS WELL.
646
00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:53,267
IS SHE THE GRAIL?
DOES SHE CONTAIN THE SPIRIT?
647
00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:55,567
YOU CAN GO OFF
ON THAT ANGLE, AS WELL.
648
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,867
OR YOU CAN PUT YOUR OWN THEORIES
TO IT.
649
00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:02,233
AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TRIED
TO BREAK THIS CODE, AS WELL,
650
00:33:02,267 --> 00:33:05,067
THINKING THIS IS A CODE.
651
00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:09,167
EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THESE LETTERS
HAVE FASCINATED PEOPLE
652
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,300
WHO TRIED TO ANSWER
THE GRAIL MYSTERY.
653
00:33:12,333 --> 00:33:17,066
IT'S 18th CENTURY. IT'S RIDDLES.
THEY'RE LOVING RIDDLES.
654
00:33:17,067 --> 00:33:18,900
SO THEY'RE TRYING
TO CONVEY A MESSAGE.
655
00:33:18,933 --> 00:33:21,367
IT MAY WELL BE THAT SOMETHING
HAS BEEN PUT IN
656
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,067
AFTER THOMAS
HAS DONE HIS GRAND TOUR.
657
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,433
HE'S SEEN SOMETHING ELSE,
AND THESE HAVE BEEN ADDED.
658
00:33:26,467 --> 00:33:28,133
YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW
WHAT THEY MEAN,
659
00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:31,767
BUT SOMEONE IN 1750s AND '60s
WHO WAS WELL-TRAVELED
660
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800
AND AS KNOWLEDGEABLE
AS YOU
661
00:33:33,833 --> 00:33:38,267
WOULD KNOW
EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.
662
00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:41,867
Fanthorpe:
ON THE MONUMENT ITSELF,
663
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:45,400
WE HAVE THREE SHEPHERDS
AND A SHEPHERDESS.
664
00:33:45,433 --> 00:33:49,933
ON THE SIDE OF THE TOMB
AROUND WHICH THEY STAND
665
00:33:49,967 --> 00:33:54,733
IS THE MESSAGE,
"ET IN ARCADIA EGO."
666
00:33:54,767 --> 00:33:57,433
ONE OF THE TRANSLATIONS IS,
667
00:33:57,467 --> 00:34:00,867
"I, TOO, AM IN ARCADIA."
668
00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:05,733
AND IF WE TAKE THE IDEA
OF ARCADIA AS BEING PARADISE,
669
00:34:05,767 --> 00:34:09,067
THEN THE MESSAGE
OF THE SHUGBOROUGH MONUMENT
670
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:15,667
IS THAT THE HOLY GRAIL
IS IN ANOTHER WORLD.
671
00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:18,200
Howells:
I THINK THE SHUGBOROUGH MONUMENT
GIVES THE LOCATION.
672
00:34:18,233 --> 00:34:21,200
I THINK, IT'S A CODE
TOWARDS A SPECIFIC PLACE.
673
00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:23,633
I THINK IT'S PART
OF A TRADITION OF WHAT'S CALLED
674
00:34:23,667 --> 00:34:26,767
THE UNDERGROUND STREAM
OF KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION
675
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,767
AND PROOF OF, PERHAPS,
ALTERNATIVE VERSIONS
676
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,367
OF CHRISTIANITY,
OF ALTERNATIVE IDEAS.
677
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,933
AND I THINK THESE OBJECTS
AND DOCUMENTS, UH,
678
00:34:35,967 --> 00:34:38,667
WOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED ON
THROUGH FAMILIES
679
00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:41,867
AND WOULD HAVE BEEN SECRETED
IN SPECIFIC PLACES.
680
00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:45,633
AND SHUGBOROUGH MONUMENT
IS ENCODED TO MAYBE MOVE PEOPLE
681
00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:47,900
ON TO THE NEXT LOCATION.
682
00:34:47,933 --> 00:34:52,167
Picknett: NOBODY KNOWS
WHAT THE INSCRIPTION MEANS.
683
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,066
UM, IT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING
TO DO WITH THE FAMILY
684
00:34:55,067 --> 00:34:57,066
THAT THE FAMILY THEMSELVES
HAVE FORGOTTEN.
685
00:34:57,067 --> 00:34:58,467
THIS HAPPENS.
686
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:04,267
THEY EVEN BROUGHT IN FORMER
BLETCHLEY PARK CODE-BREAKERS.
687
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,733
AND THEY COULDN'T
GET A HANDLE ON IT AT ALL.
688
00:35:07,767 --> 00:35:10,167
UM, SO IF THEY CAN'T DO IT,
689
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,800
I'M SURE I DON'T KNOW
OF ANYBODY WHO CAN.
690
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:20,066
IS THIS HELPING ME UNDERSTAND
WHAT THE GRAIL IS OR MIGHT BE?
691
00:35:20,067 --> 00:35:23,700
IT MIGHT BE HELPING YOU GO
IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION
692
00:35:23,733 --> 00:35:25,867
OR SEVERAL
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
693
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,567
IT COULD BE
THAT THE GRAIL
694
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,867
IS A TOMB CONTAINING JESUS.
695
00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:32,600
IT MIGHT CONTAIN
MARY MAGDALENE.
696
00:35:32,633 --> 00:35:34,267
IT MIGHT NOT BE A CUP.
697
00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,066
IT MIGHT BE A CONCEPT.
698
00:35:36,067 --> 00:35:40,133
SO IT MAY BE
WHATEVER YOUR HOLY GRAIL IS,
699
00:35:40,167 --> 00:35:41,600
WHATEVER YOUR BELIEF.
700
00:35:41,633 --> 00:35:43,633
THIS COULD POINT YOU
IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
701
00:35:56,533 --> 00:36:01,833
Narrator:
THE FINAL GRAIL ON JAMIE'S QUEST
IS IN VALENCIA IN SPAIN.
702
00:36:01,867 --> 00:36:05,467
IT'S A SMALL STONE CUP
CALLED THE SANTO CALIZ,
703
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:10,833
AND IT'S KEPT UNDER TIGHT
SECURITY IN VALENCIA CATHEDRAL.
704
00:36:10,867 --> 00:36:13,800
ACCORDING TO THE LEGEND,
THE CUP WAS USED BY JESUS
705
00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:16,500
AND HIS DISCIPLES
AT THE LAST SUPPER.
706
00:36:16,533 --> 00:36:19,433
IT WAS THEN BROUGHT BACK
FROM THE HOLY LAND TO SPAIN
707
00:36:19,467 --> 00:36:22,133
BY THE CRUSADERS
IN THE 12th CENTURY,
708
00:36:22,167 --> 00:36:24,900
WHERE IT WAS HIDDEN
IN THE CLIFFTOP MONASTERY
709
00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:26,900
OF SAN JUAN DE LA PEÑA
710
00:36:26,933 --> 00:36:30,367
BEFORE BEING BROUGHT
TO VALENCIA CENTURIES LATER.
711
00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:38,400
THE CUP HAS BEEN ANALYZED AND
DATED TO THE 1st CENTURY A.D.,
712
00:36:38,433 --> 00:36:40,333
GIVING IT A GOOD PROVIDENCE.
713
00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:43,333
BUT WHAT MAKES THE SANTO CALIZ
SO EXTRAORDINARY
714
00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:47,367
IS THAT IT HAS BEEN USED
TO CELEBRATE MASS BY NOT ONE,
715
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:53,167
BUT TWO POPES... JOHN PAUL II
AND BENEDICT XVI.
716
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,567
Gough: THIS IS A CUP
THAT'S HISTORICALLY TRACEABLE
717
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,333
IN LITERATURE AND ART
TO THE 3rd CENTURY A.D.
718
00:36:58,367 --> 00:37:00,633
AND WHICH WAS TAKEN TO SPAIN.
719
00:37:00,667 --> 00:37:04,733
AND CASTLES AND FORTRESSES
WERE BUILT TO PROTECT IT.
720
00:37:04,767 --> 00:37:07,233
JACA, SAN JUAN DE LA PEÑA,
721
00:37:07,267 --> 00:37:10,933
HUESCA, ZARAGOZA,
AND TODAY IN VALENCIA.
722
00:37:10,967 --> 00:37:13,567
AND, IN FACT, RECENT TIMES,
POPES HAVE KISSED IT.
723
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,667
AND SO, OF ALL THE CUPS
AND CHALICES,
724
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:20,833
THE ONE IN VALENCIA, YOU KNOW,
THAT'S DARN INTERESTING.
725
00:37:20,867 --> 00:37:23,600
Prince: THE CUP IN WHICH
THE WHOLE THING IS BUILT AROUND
726
00:37:23,633 --> 00:37:27,267
IS FROM THE RIGHT DATE
AND FROM ABOUT THE RIGHT PLACE.
727
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:28,633
HUGE DOUBTS ABOUT WHETHER
728
00:37:28,667 --> 00:37:30,733
THAT THEREFORE MAKES IT
THE CUP OF THE LAST SUPPER
729
00:37:30,767 --> 00:37:33,833
BECAUSE, HOW DID IT GET THERE?
730
00:37:33,867 --> 00:37:36,967
THERE'S NO STORY OF HOW IT
GOT FROM THE 1st CENTURY TO,
731
00:37:37,067 --> 00:37:38,567
I THINK IT WAS THE 11th CENTURY
732
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,900
WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS ACTUALLY
APPEARS IN DOCUMENTS.
733
00:37:42,933 --> 00:37:44,933
Picknett:
WHEN TWO DIFFERENT POPES
734
00:37:44,967 --> 00:37:50,066
HAVE ACTUALLY USED
THE VALENCIA CUP IN MASS
735
00:37:50,067 --> 00:37:52,067
THEY ARE TACITLY OF COURSE
ENDORSING IT.
736
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,833
THEY ARE SAYING,
"THIS IS SPECIAL,"
737
00:37:53,867 --> 00:37:55,233
AND ALLOWING PEOPLE
738
00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:58,300
TO PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER
AND MAKE FIVE, BASICALLY,
739
00:37:58,333 --> 00:38:01,833
AND SAY,
"THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL."
740
00:38:01,867 --> 00:38:05,300
Narrator: IS THIS LITTLE
STONE CUP IN VALENCIA CATHEDRAL
741
00:38:05,333 --> 00:38:08,133
THE TRUE HOLY GRAIL?
742
00:38:08,167 --> 00:38:11,600
WHY DOES THE VATICAN BELIEVE
THAT IT WAS THE ACTUAL CUP
743
00:38:11,633 --> 00:38:15,433
THAT JESUS
DRANK FROM 2,000 YEARS AGO?
744
00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:19,267
AND WHY IS IT KEPT
UNDER SUCH TIGHT SECURITY TODAY?
745
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:20,800
THE TRUTH IS REVEALED.
746
00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:25,533
COMING UP IN THE EXPLOSIVE FINAL
PART OF "FORBIDDEN HISTORY."
747
00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:30,367
Narrator:
JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON
748
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,433
HAS BEEN ON A QUEST
TO FIND THE REAL HOLY GRAIL.
749
00:38:33,467 --> 00:38:36,500
IT'S TAKEN HIM TO SHROPSHIRE
IN ENGLAND AND THE SMALL,
750
00:38:36,533 --> 00:38:38,066
EGG-CUP-SHAPED HAWKSTONE CUP
751
00:38:38,067 --> 00:38:39,833
MADE OF GREEN ALABASTER
752
00:38:39,867 --> 00:38:42,567
THAT WAS SAID TO HAVE BEEN
USED BY MARY MAGDALENE
753
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,433
TO CATCH THE BLOOD OF JESUS
FROM THE CRUCIFIXION;
754
00:38:45,467 --> 00:38:47,633
AND THEN THE NANTEOS CUP,
755
00:38:47,667 --> 00:38:49,100
A WOODEN DRINKING BOWL
756
00:38:49,133 --> 00:38:51,167
BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN
BROUGHT BACK TO BRITAIN
757
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,100
BY JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA
FROM THE LAST SUPPER.
758
00:38:54,133 --> 00:38:55,833
AND NOW, HIS FINAL STOP
759
00:38:55,867 --> 00:39:00,167
IS VALENCIA IN SPAIN
TO SEE THE SANTO CALIZ,
760
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,400
A SMALL, POLISHED STONE CUP
761
00:39:02,433 --> 00:39:05,367
THAT THE VATICAN BELIEVES
IS THE REAL THING.
762
00:39:13,067 --> 00:39:14,867
AS BEFITTING
WHAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
763
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:17,933
BELIEVES
IS THE ACTUAL HOLY GRAIL,
764
00:39:17,967 --> 00:39:20,933
THE SANTO CALIZ IS KEPT
IN ITS OWN GRAIL CHAPEL
765
00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:22,200
IN THE CATHEDRAL
766
00:39:22,233 --> 00:39:25,533
WITH ITS OWN GROUP
OF GRAIL PRIESTS GUARDING IT.
767
00:39:25,567 --> 00:39:28,433
THE MAN WHO IS CHARGED
WITH PROTECTING THE GRAIL
768
00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:30,933
IS CANON JAIME SANCHO.
769
00:39:37,067 --> 00:39:38,700
WOW.
770
00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:41,167
THIS IS MORE LIKE IT.
771
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,667
WHY DOES THE CHURCH BELIEVE THIS
TO BE THE REAL HOLY GRAIL?
772
00:40:19,233 --> 00:40:26,233
Fanthorpe:
WHEN PEOPLE CAN GO ON PILGRIMAGE
TO SEE A HOLY OBJECT,
773
00:40:26,267 --> 00:40:31,267
THEY WILL BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE
BEEN BLESSED BY LOOKING AT IT.
774
00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:37,633
AND WE COME TO THAT OLD QUESTION
AGAIN OF THE POWER OF THE MIND.
775
00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:40,867
IF YOU BELIEVE
THAT A CERTAIN OBJECT
776
00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,200
WHICH YOU HAVE JUST SEEN
OR HANDLED, I MEAN, UH,
777
00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:47,200
AS I HANDLED THE NANTEOS CUP,
778
00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:51,000
UH, YOU DO FEEL A CERTAIN SENSE
OF WELL-BEING
779
00:40:51,033 --> 00:40:54,567
BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD THIS GOOD
AND SACRED HOLY OBJECT
780
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,633
IN YOUR HANDS
OR AT LEAST VERY CLOSE TO YOU
781
00:40:57,667 --> 00:41:03,900
WHEN YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE GLASS
OF THE CASE IN WHICH IT'S HELD.
782
00:41:03,933 --> 00:41:07,467
Picknett:
THE ENDORSEMENT, OR THE TACIT
ENDORSEMENT OF THE VALENCIA CUP,
783
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:09,767
HAS TO BE GOOD
FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH.
784
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,733
IT SAYS, "LOOK, WE'VE GOT IT.
NOBODY ELSE HAS GOT IT.
785
00:41:13,767 --> 00:41:15,243
NO OTHER CHURCH HAS GOT IT.
WE'VE GOT IT.
786
00:41:15,267 --> 00:41:16,467
WE CAN LAY OUR HANDS ON IT.
787
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:19,066
THIS IS THE CUP THAT JESUS USED.
788
00:41:19,067 --> 00:41:20,767
THE POPE IS USING IT.
789
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,567
HURRAH."
790
00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:29,133
DURING MY QUEST, I'VE SEEN A LOT
OF DIFFERENT CUPS AND CHALICES.
791
00:41:29,167 --> 00:41:33,067
IS THIS THE CLOSEST I'M GOING
TO GET TO THE REAL THING.
792
00:42:21,667 --> 00:42:25,133
Picknett:
RELICS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH
793
00:42:25,167 --> 00:42:27,600
BECAUSE OF THE EFFECT
THEY PRODUCE.
794
00:42:27,633 --> 00:42:31,833
JUST TALKING ABOUT THEM PRODUCES
IN THE MIND OF THE BELIEVERS.
795
00:42:31,867 --> 00:42:34,933
BASICALLY, IT PULLS
THE WHOLE CHURCH TOGETHER.
796
00:42:34,967 --> 00:42:36,067
AND IT SAYS, "LOOK,
797
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:39,433
WE ARE IN CONTROL
OF THE JESUS STORY,
798
00:42:39,467 --> 00:42:41,066
WHICH IS REAL BY THE WAY
BECAUSE,
799
00:42:41,067 --> 00:42:46,133
LOOK, WE HAVE THIS THING
THAT JESUS HELD HIMSELF."
800
00:42:46,167 --> 00:42:50,933
Fanthorpe:
IT'S DIFFICULT TO DECIDE
WHICH OF THE NUMEROUS CONTENDERS
801
00:42:50,967 --> 00:42:56,467
FOR THE TITLE MIGHT BE
THE REAL HOLY GRAIL,
802
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,467
THE REAL CUP FROM WHICH
803
00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:04,633
CHRIST AND THE DISCIPLES
DRANK AT THE LAST SUPPER.
804
00:43:04,667 --> 00:43:06,133
ON THE OTHER HAND,
805
00:43:06,167 --> 00:43:09,533
THE VENERATION
FOR THE RIGHT REASON
806
00:43:09,567 --> 00:43:13,800
OF ANY OF THOSE HOLY OBJECTS
IS A GOOD THING,
807
00:43:13,833 --> 00:43:16,333
RATHER THAN A BAD ONE.
808
00:43:16,367 --> 00:43:21,267
MY BEST GUESS
WOULD BE FOR VALENCIA.
809
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:25,800
IF I WAS COMPELLED TO SAY
WHICH MY FAVORITE WAS,
810
00:43:25,833 --> 00:43:28,200
THAT'S THE ONE I WOULD GO FOR.
811
00:43:28,233 --> 00:43:31,767
BUT I WOULDN'T REALLY WANT
TO PUT MONEY ON IT.
812
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,066
Narrator: JAMIE'S QUEST
TO FIND THE ONE TRUE HOLY GRAIL
813
00:43:39,067 --> 00:43:42,066
HAS TAKEN HIM FROM
HAWKSTONE PARK IN SHROPSHIRE,
814
00:43:42,067 --> 00:43:44,233
THROUGH TO ABERGAVENNY IN WALES,
815
00:43:44,267 --> 00:43:46,367
THE SHUGBOROUGH MONUMENT
IN ENGLAND.
816
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,167
AND NOW, TO VALENCIA IN SPAIN.
817
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,967
ALL OF THE CUPS HE WAS SHOWN
818
00:43:52,067 --> 00:43:55,600
HAVE THEIR OWN FASCINATING
STORY, THEIR OWN HISTORY,
819
00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:57,933
THEIR OWN CLAIMS
OF AUTHENTICITY.
820
00:43:57,967 --> 00:44:03,433
BUT WHICH ONE,
IF ANY, IS THE REAL HOLY GRAIL?
821
00:44:03,467 --> 00:44:07,067
THE TRUTH IS THEY ALL REQUIRE
A LEAP OF FAITH,
822
00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:11,133
A BELIEF IN THE IDEA
OF A GRAIL EXISTING AT ALL.
823
00:44:11,167 --> 00:44:12,633
BUT THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE
824
00:44:12,667 --> 00:44:18,100
AND THE BEST PROVENANCE SEEMS
TO POINT TO THE SANTO CALIZ.
825
00:44:18,133 --> 00:44:19,733
THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE PROOF,
826
00:44:19,767 --> 00:44:22,067
BUT IT'S POSSIBLE
THAT THE LITTLE STONE CUP
827
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,733
LOCKED AWAY INSIDE THE CATHEDRAL
828
00:44:24,767 --> 00:44:27,967
COULD HAVE BEEN DRUNK
FROM BY JESUS CHRIST
829
00:44:28,067 --> 00:44:30,667
2,000 YEARS AGO.
65799
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