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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,067 --> 00:00:03,100 Narrator: THE HOLY GRAIL. 2 00:00:03,133 --> 00:00:04,533 WHAT WAS IT? 3 00:00:04,567 --> 00:00:06,833 A CUP FROM THE LAST SUPPER? 4 00:00:06,867 --> 00:00:09,133 A CUP USED TO HELP CLEANSE JESUS' BODY 5 00:00:09,167 --> 00:00:10,900 AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION? 6 00:00:10,933 --> 00:00:14,333 DOES THIS MOST FAMOUS RELIC ACTUALLY EXIST? 7 00:00:14,367 --> 00:00:18,067 Fanthorpe: THERE IS A REAL HISTORICAL POSSIBILITY 8 00:00:18,100 --> 00:00:21,667 THAT THE CUP USED AT THE LAST SUPPER 9 00:00:21,700 --> 00:00:24,000 WOULD HAVE BEEN PRESERVED. 10 00:00:24,033 --> 00:00:30,067 THIS IS WHAT WAS FOUND IN THERE, A SMALL STONE CUP. 11 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:32,467 Howells: I DON'T THINK THE GRAIL IS A PHYSICAL ITEM. 12 00:00:32,500 --> 00:00:34,500 I DON'T THINK IT CAN BE. IT HAS TOO MUCH POWER. 13 00:00:34,533 --> 00:00:37,767 IT HAS TOO MUCH PSYCHOLOGICAL VALUE. 14 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:40,133 SAFELY KEPT IN A JIFFY BAG. 15 00:00:40,167 --> 00:00:41,776 I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO FIND THE HOLY GRAIL 16 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:42,933 IN A JIFFY BAG. 17 00:00:42,967 --> 00:00:47,767 RIGHT. OKAY. IT'S EXTRAORDINARY. 18 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,067 Picknett: WE'RE NEVER GOING TO FIND THE REAL HOLY GRAIL 19 00:00:50,100 --> 00:00:52,509 IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CUP THAT WAS USED AT THE LAST SUPPER 20 00:00:52,533 --> 00:00:54,600 BECAUSE THERE'S NO SUCH THING. 21 00:00:54,633 --> 00:00:58,100 DO YOU THINK THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL? 22 00:00:58,133 --> 00:00:59,433 THEY'VE ALL GOT A CUP. 23 00:00:59,467 --> 00:01:01,667 THEY ALL, YOU KNOW, CAN HEAL. 24 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:04,066 IT'S A PIECE OF INDUSTRY, IF YOU LIKE, 25 00:01:04,067 --> 00:01:06,133 OR A PIECE OF BUSINESS. 26 00:01:06,167 --> 00:01:07,900 WOW. 27 00:01:07,933 --> 00:01:10,900 Captions by VITAC... www.vitac.com 28 00:01:10,933 --> 00:01:13,967 CAPTIONS PAID FOR BY DISCOVERY COMMUNICATIONS 29 00:01:26,067 --> 00:01:28,067 Narrator: THE QUEST FOR THE HOLY GRAIL 30 00:01:28,100 --> 00:01:30,933 IS ONE OF THE GREAT ADVENTURES OF ALL TIME. 31 00:01:30,967 --> 00:01:34,867 IT'S ATTRACTED ARTHURIAN KNIGHTS, INDIANA JONES, 32 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:39,267 AND DOZENS OF ARCHAEOLOGISTS AND EXPLORERS THROUGH THE AGES. 33 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:40,967 THE RESULT HAS BEEN THE DISCOVERY 34 00:01:41,067 --> 00:01:43,167 OF A NUMBER OF CUPS AND CHALICES, 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,500 WHICH ALL LAY CLAIM TO BE THE REAL THING. 36 00:01:46,533 --> 00:01:47,833 BUT ARE THEY? 37 00:01:47,867 --> 00:01:52,433 JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON IS ON A QUEST TO FIND OUT. 38 00:01:52,467 --> 00:01:54,700 Butler: IT'S ALWAYS SEEMED RATHER STRANGE TO ME 39 00:01:54,733 --> 00:01:58,067 THAT IN A VERY SIMPLE MEAL, 40 00:01:58,100 --> 00:02:03,200 GIVEN A VERY SIMPLE PLACE 2,000 YEARS AGO, 41 00:02:03,233 --> 00:02:08,633 USING WOODEN OR VERY SIMPLE POTTERY BOWLS 42 00:02:08,667 --> 00:02:11,867 THAT THE CUP THAT JESUS DRANK OUT OF AT THE LAST SUPPER 43 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:13,267 COULD POSSIBLY HAVE SURVIVED 44 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:18,500 OR THAT ANYONE WOULD HAVE EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT KEEPING IT. 45 00:02:18,533 --> 00:02:22,733 Gough: I REALLY DON'T THINK THAT A CUP OR CHALICE FROM THE CRUCIFIXION 46 00:02:22,767 --> 00:02:26,867 OR EVEN THE LAST SUPPER WOULD HAVE BEEN KEPT. 47 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:31,133 NOW, THERE MAY BE CUPS OR CHALICES THAT WERE SACRED 48 00:02:31,167 --> 00:02:32,533 AND USED IN MASS 49 00:02:32,567 --> 00:02:36,933 BY FAMOUS PRIESTS SUCH AS ST. LAWRENCE OR EVEN PAUL 50 00:02:36,967 --> 00:02:39,233 THAT HAVE BEEN PRESERVED. 51 00:02:39,267 --> 00:02:40,733 AND THAT'S ENTIRELY POSSIBLE. 52 00:02:40,767 --> 00:02:43,433 YOU HAVE TO LOOK NO FURTHER THAN THE CHALICE IN VALENCIA 53 00:02:43,467 --> 00:02:45,867 TO SEE THAT POSSIBILITY. 54 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,433 Narrator: ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH IDENTIFYING 55 00:02:51,467 --> 00:02:53,733 THE REAL, TRUE HOLY GRAIL 56 00:02:53,767 --> 00:02:55,300 IS THAT THERE'S SO MUCH DEBATE 57 00:02:55,333 --> 00:02:58,933 ABOUT WHAT IT REALLY IS IN THE FIRST PLACE. 58 00:02:58,967 --> 00:03:02,867 THE HOLY GRAIL IS SOMETIMES THOUGHT OF AS THE CUP 59 00:03:02,900 --> 00:03:07,467 THAT WAS USED AT THE LAST SUPPER WITH JESUS AND THE DISCIPLES. 60 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:09,433 AND IT'S ALSO THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN THE CUP 61 00:03:09,467 --> 00:03:12,533 THAT CONTAINS SOME OF HIS BLOOD. 62 00:03:12,567 --> 00:03:15,933 Prince: IN SOME WAYS, THE QUESTION, "WHAT IS THE HOLY GRAIL?" 63 00:03:15,967 --> 00:03:18,100 IS KIND OF A BIT OF A RED HERRING. 64 00:03:18,133 --> 00:03:21,467 OR RATHER, IT'S GOT A VERY SIMPLE ANSWER... 65 00:03:21,500 --> 00:03:26,967 THAT IN ANY GIVEN TELLING OF THE GRAIL STORY, 66 00:03:27,067 --> 00:03:30,133 THE GRAIL IS OR IT REPRESENTS WHATEVER IT IS 67 00:03:30,167 --> 00:03:33,933 THE WRITER OF THAT PARTICULAR STORY WANTS IT TO BE. 68 00:03:33,967 --> 00:03:37,900 Butler: THE ONE GREAT THING ABOUT THE BEST OF THE GRAIL STORIES 69 00:03:37,933 --> 00:03:40,600 IS THAT THE KNIGHTS OF THE ROUND TABLE 70 00:03:40,633 --> 00:03:46,567 WHO SEEK TO FIND IT ONLY EVER FIND IT WHEN THEY'RE DEAD. 71 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,667 SO THAT THE GRAIL IS ESSENTIALLY, FOR ME, 72 00:03:49,700 --> 00:03:53,733 A SPIRITUAL THING, A SEARCH. 73 00:03:53,767 --> 00:03:57,066 Gough: YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF CUPS AND CHALICES THAT PURPORT 74 00:03:57,067 --> 00:03:59,867 TO BE THE HOLY GRAIL AND THE ONE AND ONLY. 75 00:03:59,900 --> 00:04:01,709 YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE FROM THE 1st CENTURY A.D. 76 00:04:01,733 --> 00:04:03,133 IT COULD BE MEDIEVAL. 77 00:04:03,167 --> 00:04:06,333 IT COULD BE FROM A COFFEE SHOP IN NEW YORK CITY. 78 00:04:06,367 --> 00:04:07,567 BUT THE POINT IS, 79 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,600 IF IT'S MEANINGFUL AND SYMBOLIC TO YOU, 80 00:04:09,633 --> 00:04:12,067 THEN, YES, IT IS A GRAIL. 81 00:04:12,100 --> 00:04:14,367 WE SHOULDN'T THINK THERE'S JUST ONE OF THEM. 82 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:25,800 Narrator: JAMIE'S FIRST STOP IS HAWKSTONE PARK IN SHROPSHIRE IN ENGLAND. 83 00:04:25,833 --> 00:04:28,767 AUTHOR AND HISTORIAN GRAHAM PHILLIPS BELIEVES 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,667 THAT THE HOLY GRAIL IS A SMALL OINTMENT CUP 85 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:36,633 THAT MARY MAGDALENE USED TO HEAL JESUS AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION 86 00:04:36,667 --> 00:04:39,133 AND THAT HE'S FOUND IT RIGHT HERE 87 00:04:39,167 --> 00:04:42,067 IN THE HEART OF THE ENGLISH COUNTRYSIDE. 88 00:04:46,067 --> 00:04:49,300 SO, GRAHAM, WHAT WAS IT THAT LED YOU HERE? 89 00:04:49,333 --> 00:04:52,167 IN THE MID-1800s, 90 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,767 THERE WAS A LOCAL HISTORIAN CALLED THOMAS WRIGHT. 91 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,600 AND HE CLAIMED THAT HE WAS DESCENDED 92 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:02,933 FROM THE FAMILY THAT POSSESSED THE HOLY GRAIL, 93 00:05:02,967 --> 00:05:06,567 SPECIFICALLY THE GRAIL THAT BELONGED TO MARY MAGDALENE, 94 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,367 THE SMALL CHALICE THAT SHE HAD USED... 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:10,567 ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE... 96 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,833 TO COLLECT A FEW DROPS OF JESUS' BLOOD 97 00:05:12,867 --> 00:05:14,367 WHEN HE WAS ON THE CROSS. OKAY. 98 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:19,133 NOW, THOMAS WRIGHT CLAIMED THAT HE POSSESSED THIS CUP 99 00:05:19,167 --> 00:05:23,700 AND UNFORTUNATELY HAD NO ONE TO HAND IT ON TO. 100 00:05:23,733 --> 00:05:25,633 SO WHAT HE DID, 101 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:29,066 SEEING HIMSELF AS SOME, PERHAPS, LATTER-DAY MERLIN, 102 00:05:29,067 --> 00:05:34,333 IS TO HIDE THIS CUP AND LEAVE A SERIES OF CLUES, 103 00:05:34,367 --> 00:05:36,900 CRYPTIC CLUES AS TO WHERE IT WAS. 104 00:05:36,933 --> 00:05:38,933 NOW THESE, IT WAS SAID, 105 00:05:38,967 --> 00:05:41,200 WERE IN THIS BOOK THAT HE HAD WRITTEN, 106 00:05:41,233 --> 00:05:43,633 WHICH IS BASICALLY A POEM 107 00:05:43,667 --> 00:05:46,333 ABOUT THE LOCAL LANDSCAPE IN THIS AREA. 108 00:05:46,367 --> 00:05:47,433 Theakston: RIGHT. 109 00:05:47,467 --> 00:05:51,400 AND IN THIS BOOK, AT THE END OF THE BOOK, 110 00:05:51,433 --> 00:05:56,733 IS A PICTURE OF SOMEWHERE CALLED THE RED CASTLE. 111 00:06:02,067 --> 00:06:05,367 AND THE RED CASTLE IS ASSOCIATED IN LEGEND, 112 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,809 WHICH IS REALLY ALL THAT'S KNOWN ABOUT IT, 113 00:06:06,833 --> 00:06:08,500 WITH THE KING ARTHUR STORY... RIGHT. 114 00:06:08,533 --> 00:06:10,800 WHERE ONE OF ARTHUR'S ENEMIES, THE RED KNIGHT, 115 00:06:10,833 --> 00:06:12,367 LIVES IN THE RED CASTLE. 116 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,633 BUT BACK IN LIKE 1990, WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE, 117 00:06:16,667 --> 00:06:18,133 I GOT TO THIS SPOT. 118 00:06:18,167 --> 00:06:23,367 AND THERE IS THE KEEP OF THE RED CASTLE 119 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,533 EXACTLY AS THE PICTURE IN THE BOOK. 120 00:06:26,567 --> 00:06:30,533 AND THIS PROVED TO ME THAT, WOW, THIS QUEST IS REAL. 121 00:06:30,567 --> 00:06:33,066 THERE HAS GOT TO BE A SERIES OF CLUES, 122 00:06:33,067 --> 00:06:34,867 AS THOMAS WRIGHT CLAIMED. 123 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:36,333 WHAT'S DOWN... CAN WE GO IN THERE? 124 00:06:36,367 --> 00:06:38,433 YEAH, THIS IS QUITE INTERESTING IN HERE. 125 00:06:38,467 --> 00:06:40,933 AS I SAY, NOBODY REALLY KNOWS 126 00:06:40,967 --> 00:06:43,867 WHAT THE CASTLE WAS USED FOR. 127 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:45,233 RIGHT. 128 00:06:45,267 --> 00:06:48,300 AND IN HERE, YOU WILL FIND ANOTHER VERY MYSTERIOUS... 129 00:06:48,333 --> 00:06:49,500 YOU NEED A TORCH. 130 00:06:49,533 --> 00:06:51,567 YEAH, I GOT THAT. TO GET IN. 131 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:52,733 MIND YOUR HEAD. 132 00:06:52,767 --> 00:06:54,933 NOW, IN HERE, 133 00:06:54,967 --> 00:06:58,066 YOU'VE GOT WHAT IS SAID TO BE, LOCALLY, A WELL. 134 00:06:58,067 --> 00:06:59,267 BUT IT'S NOT... 135 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:01,433 Theakston: OH, MY GOD. IT'S JUST TOO WIDE TO BE ONE. 136 00:07:01,467 --> 00:07:02,600 AND LOOK HOW DEEP IT IS. 137 00:07:02,633 --> 00:07:04,066 WOW. AND ALL AROUND THE WALLS 138 00:07:04,067 --> 00:07:06,733 YOU'VE GOT THESE LITTLE SORT OF NICHES 139 00:07:06,767 --> 00:07:09,600 INTO WHICH WOULD HAVE GONE WOOD TO SUPPORT FLOORS. 140 00:07:09,633 --> 00:07:11,767 AND THE ONLY THEORY PEOPLE HAVE IS, SOMEHOW, 141 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,333 THIS WAS A SERIES OF FLOORS GOING DEEP UNDERGROUND 142 00:07:15,367 --> 00:07:18,100 AS A SORT OF MEDIEVAL BUNKER, SO TO SPEAK. 143 00:07:18,133 --> 00:07:20,167 SO WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN IN THE BOTTOM THERE? 144 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:21,933 NOBODY KNOWS. 145 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,433 Phillips: AND THE REALLY INTERESTING THING, OF COURSE, 146 00:07:25,467 --> 00:07:28,867 AS FAR AS THE CURRENT QUEST IS CONCERNED 147 00:07:28,900 --> 00:07:31,100 IS THAT THE PICTURE 148 00:07:31,133 --> 00:07:35,767 IN THE DRAWING IN THOMAS WRIGHT'S BOOK 149 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,300 IS DRAWN FROM HERE. 150 00:07:42,067 --> 00:07:44,833 AND SO, THE FIRST CLUE IN THE SERIES 151 00:07:44,867 --> 00:07:47,733 IF WE'RE SUPPOSED TO STAND HERE, SAYS, 152 00:07:47,767 --> 00:07:50,900 "LEAD ME TO THE ROCK THAT IS HIGHER THAN I." 153 00:07:50,933 --> 00:07:53,867 AND THE ONLY ROCK THAT'S IN THE AREA THAT'S HIGHER 154 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:55,200 IS THAT ONE THERE. 155 00:07:55,233 --> 00:07:58,067 AND THAT, REALLY, IS WHAT IS KNOWN LOCALLY 156 00:07:58,100 --> 00:07:59,333 AS THE WHITE CLIFF. 157 00:07:59,367 --> 00:08:01,367 AND IT SEEMS TO BE UP THERE 158 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,633 I'VE GOT TO GO. 159 00:08:02,667 --> 00:08:04,467 SO, THAT'S WHERE THE SECOND CLUE IS. 160 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:07,066 YES. AND, IN FACT, IF YOU COULD JUST FOLLOW ME, I'LL SHOW YOU. 161 00:08:07,067 --> 00:08:08,743 YOU CAN'T SEE IT QUITE THROUGH THE TREES HERE. 162 00:08:08,767 --> 00:08:13,066 BUT ON TOP OF THAT CLIFF IS A VERY STRANGE MONUMENT, 163 00:08:13,067 --> 00:08:15,267 WHICH IS ALSO REFERENCED IN THE CLUES. 164 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:17,067 OKAY. LET'S GO TAKE A LOOK. 165 00:08:20,633 --> 00:08:23,167 GRAHAM TOOK JAMIE UP TO THE TOP OF THE HILL 166 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,066 TO SEE THE RUINS OF THE CHAPEL CLOSE-UP. 167 00:08:26,067 --> 00:08:29,667 IF HE WAS RIGHT AND THE CLUES DID LEAD TO IT, 168 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:32,066 THEN THE SO-CALLED HAWKSTONE GRAIL 169 00:08:32,067 --> 00:08:36,833 LAY HIDDEN AWAY INSIDE THE HILL BENEATH THEIR FEET. 170 00:08:36,867 --> 00:08:40,367 SO OF COURSE, THE NEXT CLUE TELLS ME 171 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,900 THAT I HAVE TO GO BELOW THE ARCH INSIDE THE HILL. 172 00:08:45,933 --> 00:08:48,043 NOW, I'M THINKING, "HOW ON EARTH AM I GOING TO DO THAT?" 173 00:08:48,067 --> 00:08:51,233 SO IF I GO AROUND THE BACK 174 00:08:51,267 --> 00:08:53,367 OF WHERE THE ARCH IS IN THE CLIFF, 175 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:58,133 I FIND THIS ASTONISHING GORGE CUT THROUGH THE ROCKS. 176 00:08:58,167 --> 00:09:01,267 SO I THINK, "WELL, LET'S GO UP HERE." 177 00:09:01,300 --> 00:09:04,333 AT THE TIME, A LOT OF THIS WAS OVERGROWN. 178 00:09:04,367 --> 00:09:07,667 AND SO I START TO HAVE TO HACK MY WAY THROUGH AND CLIMB MY WAY 179 00:09:07,700 --> 00:09:09,733 OVER ALL SORTS OF FALLEN BRANCHES 180 00:09:09,767 --> 00:09:13,167 AND DIFFERENT BITS AND PIECES. 181 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,300 AND I'M THINKING, "WELL, IS THIS IN ANY WAY 182 00:09:15,333 --> 00:09:20,933 GOING TO LEAD ME INSIDE THE ROCK AND UNDER WHERE THE ARCH IS?" 183 00:09:20,967 --> 00:09:24,867 AND, ASTONISHINGLY, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT DOES. 184 00:09:28,967 --> 00:09:32,933 EVENTUALLY I FOUND THIS, 185 00:09:32,967 --> 00:09:37,500 AN ENTRANCE INTO THE CLIFF ITSELF. 186 00:09:37,533 --> 00:09:39,400 WOW. 187 00:09:40,767 --> 00:09:44,067 WHAT DID GRAHAM FIND THAT HAD BEEN HIDDEN AWAY UNDER THIS HILL 188 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:46,133 OVER A CENTURY AGO? 189 00:09:46,167 --> 00:09:47,967 WAS IT THE CUP THAT MARY MAGDALENE 190 00:09:48,067 --> 00:09:51,867 USED TO COLLECT THE BLOOD OF JESUS AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION? 191 00:09:51,900 --> 00:09:55,200 OR WAS THIS WHOLE TREASURE HUNT A CLEVER HOAX? 192 00:09:55,233 --> 00:09:57,833 STARTLING REVELATIONS TO THIS MYSTERY 193 00:09:57,867 --> 00:10:00,633 WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 194 00:10:02,667 --> 00:10:04,167 Narrator: OVER THE CENTURIES, 195 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:05,533 DOZENS OF CUPS AND CHALICES 196 00:10:05,567 --> 00:10:07,800 HAVE BEEN HAILED AS THE ACTUAL VESSEL 197 00:10:07,833 --> 00:10:10,767 THAT JESUS DRANK FROM AT THE LAST SUPPER. 198 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:14,033 BUT WHICH, IF ANY, ARE THE REAL THING? 199 00:10:14,067 --> 00:10:17,333 JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON HAS COME TO HAWKSTONE PARK 200 00:10:17,367 --> 00:10:18,667 IN THE HEART OF ENGLAND 201 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:21,433 TO MEET AN AUTHOR AND RESEARCHER, GRAHAM PHILLIPS, 202 00:10:21,467 --> 00:10:23,733 WHO BELIEVES THAT HE HAS DISCOVERED THE CUP 203 00:10:23,767 --> 00:10:27,867 USED TO CATCH THE BLOOD OF JESUS AFTER HIS CRUCIFIXION. 204 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:30,067 A LOCAL LAND OWNER IN THE 18th CENTURY, 205 00:10:30,100 --> 00:10:31,433 THOMAS WRIGHT, 206 00:10:31,467 --> 00:10:33,800 CLAIMED THAT HE HAD INHERITED THE CUP FROM HIS FAMILY 207 00:10:33,833 --> 00:10:35,667 AND THEN LEFT A SERIES OF CLUES 208 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:38,333 AS TO WHERE IT COULD BE FOUND ON HIS ESTATE. 209 00:10:38,367 --> 00:10:41,267 THESE HAVE NOW LED GRAHAM AND JAMIE TO THE ENTRANCE 210 00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:44,767 OF AN UNDERGROUND LABYRINTH. 211 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:51,567 HERE WE ARE, DIRECTLY BELOW THE STONE ARCH. 212 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,133 SO WE'RE WHERE THOMAS WRIGHT WANTED US TO BE 213 00:10:54,167 --> 00:10:56,633 AT THE END OF HIS TRAIL OF CLUES. 214 00:10:56,667 --> 00:10:58,367 IF HE'S TELLING THE TRUTH, 215 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,500 SOMEWHERE HERE MUST BE HIDDEN THE HOLY GRAIL. 216 00:11:01,533 --> 00:11:03,867 BUT WHERE? 217 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:07,467 WHAT DO WE GOT IN HERE? TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. 218 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:11,800 THIS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WAS ORIGINALLY AN EAGLE STATUE. 219 00:11:11,833 --> 00:11:13,066 Theakston: RIGHT. THERE'S ITS BREASTS. 220 00:11:13,067 --> 00:11:15,300 THERE'S ITS LEGS. THERE'S ITS WINGS. 221 00:11:15,333 --> 00:11:18,567 ITS HEAD WOULD HAVE BEEN ABOUT THERE. 222 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,900 NOW, THERE'S SOMETHING I HAVE TO TELL YOU ABOUT 223 00:11:20,933 --> 00:11:23,433 THAT I'D ALSO FOUND OUT ALREADY ABOUT THOMAS WRIGHT. 224 00:11:23,467 --> 00:11:26,133 AT THE SAME TIME AS HE WAS LEAVING THIS TRAIL OF CLUES, 225 00:11:26,167 --> 00:11:28,333 HE HAD A STAINED-GLASS WINDOW 226 00:11:28,367 --> 00:11:32,333 DESIGNED AND DONATED TO HIS LOCAL CHURCH. 227 00:11:32,367 --> 00:11:36,700 AND IN THAT STAINED-GLASS WINDOW IS DEPICTED MARY MAGDALENE 228 00:11:36,733 --> 00:11:39,767 HOLDING THE CHALICE. 229 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:40,833 OKAY. 230 00:11:40,867 --> 00:11:46,066 AND DIRECTLY ABOVE HER HEAD IS AN EAGLE. 231 00:11:46,067 --> 00:11:49,200 AND WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS EAGLE STATUE 232 00:11:49,233 --> 00:11:51,733 OR DISCOVERED THAT IT HAD ORIGINALLY HAD BEEN AN EAGLE, 233 00:11:51,767 --> 00:11:53,300 I THOUGHT "THIS HAS GOT TO BE 234 00:11:53,333 --> 00:11:56,066 WHERE THOMAS WRIGHT HID THE GRAIL. 235 00:11:56,067 --> 00:11:58,967 MAYBE HE'S HIDDEN IT INSIDE IT SOMEHOW." 236 00:11:59,067 --> 00:12:02,167 BUT IT'S ALL BROKEN UP, AND WHEN I FOUND IT, 237 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,367 IT WAS IN THE SAME CONDITION AS THIS. 238 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,066 SO, I LOOKED INTO THE HISTORY 239 00:12:06,067 --> 00:12:09,700 TO FIND OUT HOW IT GOT IN THIS CONDITION. 240 00:12:09,733 --> 00:12:11,633 AND I FOUND OUT THAT IN THE 1920s, 241 00:12:11,667 --> 00:12:14,767 A LOCAL BUSINESSMAN CALLED WALTER LANGHAM 242 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,833 DECIDED THAT HE WANTED TO HAVE THIS MOVED OUT 243 00:12:17,867 --> 00:12:19,700 AND PUT IT IN HIS GARDEN. 244 00:12:19,733 --> 00:12:23,066 WHEN HE TRIED TO HAVE IT MOVED BECAUSE IT'S A HEAVY THING... 245 00:12:23,067 --> 00:12:24,276 YEAH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA MOVE THAT. 246 00:12:24,300 --> 00:12:27,533 THE TACKLE BROKE, AND THE THING SMASHED APART. 247 00:12:27,567 --> 00:12:29,066 BUT WHAT WAS INTERESTING, 248 00:12:29,067 --> 00:12:32,133 AS I FOUND OUT A LITTLE STORY IN A NEWSPAPER FROM THE TIME, 249 00:12:32,167 --> 00:12:34,833 IS THAT, WHEN THE BASE WAS BROKEN, 250 00:12:34,867 --> 00:12:39,300 INSIDE THEY FOUND A SMALL STONE CUP, 251 00:12:39,333 --> 00:12:41,267 WHICH THEY THOUGHT WAS OF INTEREST AT THE TIME. 252 00:12:41,300 --> 00:12:44,433 BUT THEY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHY. END OF STORY. 253 00:12:44,467 --> 00:12:47,533 AND I THOUGHT, "OH, MY GOODNESS. QUITE BY ACCIDENT... 254 00:12:47,567 --> 00:12:49,067 QUITE BY ACCIDENT, 255 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:52,467 SOMEBODY HAD FOUND THOMAS WRIGHT'S GRAIL." 256 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:53,600 A SMALL, STONE CUP 257 00:12:53,633 --> 00:12:56,733 IS EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. 258 00:12:58,067 --> 00:13:01,900 I DECIDED TO FIND OUT FROM HIS DESCENDANTS, 259 00:13:01,933 --> 00:13:05,066 IF THEY WERE STILL ALIVE, WHAT HAD HAPPENED TO THIS THING. 260 00:13:05,067 --> 00:13:08,066 AND I MANAGED TO SPEAK TO HIS GREAT-GREAT-GRANDDAUGHTER, 261 00:13:08,067 --> 00:13:09,833 VISITED HER. 262 00:13:09,867 --> 00:13:11,376 AND I SAID, "DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT CUP?" 263 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,143 SHE SAID, "WELL, WE... I THINK EVERYBODY IN THE FAMILY 264 00:13:13,167 --> 00:13:15,433 THOUGHT IT WAS SOME KIND OF VICTORIAN MUSTARD POT 265 00:13:15,467 --> 00:13:17,467 OR SOMETHING, BUT, YES, WE'VE STILL GOT IT." 266 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:19,500 "REALLY? CAN I SEE IT?" 267 00:13:19,533 --> 00:13:21,667 AND SHE TOOK ME UP INTO THE ATTIC... 268 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:24,333 RIGHT. AND IN NEWSPAPER, 269 00:13:24,367 --> 00:13:25,767 WRAPPED UP IN OLD NEWSPAPER 270 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,133 AMONGST CUPS AND SAUCERS AND THAT WAS THIS. 271 00:13:30,167 --> 00:13:32,900 AND THIS IS... 272 00:13:32,933 --> 00:13:35,233 [ Chuckling ] OKAY. THIS IS IT. 273 00:13:35,267 --> 00:13:40,167 THIS IS WHAT WAS IN HER ATTIC ALL WRAPPED UP IN NEWSPAPER. 274 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:41,667 OH. 275 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:44,700 THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL? 276 00:13:44,733 --> 00:13:47,233 YOU SEE, I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF JESUS DRINKING FROM A CUP 277 00:13:47,267 --> 00:13:48,800 IN THE LAST SUPPER. 278 00:13:48,833 --> 00:13:51,833 THIS IS MORE OF AN EGG-CUP SIZE THAN A... 279 00:13:51,867 --> 00:13:53,767 I WAS EXPECTING A CHALICE. 280 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:55,867 WELL, PRECISELY. 281 00:13:55,900 --> 00:13:59,333 THE STORY OF THE MARY MAGDALENE GRAIL 282 00:13:59,367 --> 00:14:05,233 IS THAT SHE USED A SMALL SCENT JAR TO CATCH DROPS OF BLOOD 283 00:14:05,267 --> 00:14:07,867 WHILE JESUS WAS ON THE CROSS. 284 00:14:07,900 --> 00:14:10,733 I ASKED THE LADY WHO OWNED IT IF I COULD BORROW IT. 285 00:14:10,767 --> 00:14:14,600 SHE SAID, "YEAH." I WENT TO ARCHAEOLOGISTS, 286 00:14:14,633 --> 00:14:17,800 ASKED THEM WHAT THIS WAS. 287 00:14:17,833 --> 00:14:20,567 I DIDN'T SAY, "IS THIS THE GRAIL OR WHAT?" 288 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,667 I BASICALLY JUST SAID, YOU KNOW, "WHAT IS THIS?" 289 00:14:23,700 --> 00:14:28,066 AND THEY FIRSTLY SAID, "WELL, THAT'S A ROMAN SCENT JAR 290 00:14:28,067 --> 00:14:31,500 PROBABLY DATING FROM THE 1st CENTURY A.D." 291 00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:36,800 THEY SAID SECONDLY, "IT'S MADE OF ALABASTER." 292 00:14:36,833 --> 00:14:38,300 WELL, IN THE BIBLE, 293 00:14:38,333 --> 00:14:41,933 IT TELLS US IT'S A SCENT JAR BELONGING TO MARY MAGDALENE 294 00:14:41,967 --> 00:14:44,833 2,000 YEARS AGO MADE OF ALABASTER. 295 00:14:44,867 --> 00:14:46,376 AND I SAID, "YOU KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM?" 296 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,267 AND THEY SAID, "OF THE TYPE OF STONE, 297 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:51,233 SOMEWHERE IN THE PALESTINE AREA." 298 00:14:51,267 --> 00:14:53,900 SO YOU MAY BE HOLDING IN YOUR HAND 299 00:14:53,933 --> 00:14:57,333 THE MOST PRECIOUS ARTIFACT IN THE WORLD. 300 00:14:57,367 --> 00:14:59,133 WOW. 301 00:15:01,567 --> 00:15:04,800 THE HAWKSTONE CUP IS INTERESTING BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CHALICE. 302 00:15:04,833 --> 00:15:09,233 IT'S ACTUALLY A 1st-CENTURY PERFUME JAR WITHOUT ITS LID. 303 00:15:09,267 --> 00:15:12,267 AND AS SUCH, IT IS NOT LINKED WITH THE LAST SUPPER. 304 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:14,133 IT IS LINKED WITH MARY MAGDALENE, 305 00:15:14,167 --> 00:15:16,067 WHO ANOINTED JESUS 306 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:19,167 WITH INCREDIBLY EXPENSIVE SPIKENARD PERFUME. 307 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:24,133 AND THAT'S VERY INTERESTING THAT THE FAMILY THAT OWNED THIS 308 00:15:24,167 --> 00:15:25,367 AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED 309 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,267 THAT IT'S CONNECTED WITH A GRAIL-LIKE THING. 310 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:30,267 IT'S A GRAIL-LIKE STORY. 311 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:33,300 [ SOBS ] 312 00:15:33,333 --> 00:15:35,767 Gough: THE BRITISH MUSEUM DATES IT TO THE 1st CENTURY 313 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,233 MIDDLE EAST, RIGHT? 314 00:15:37,267 --> 00:15:40,066 SO ANYTHING THAT'S DATED NOW TO THE 1st CENTURY MIDDLE EAST, 315 00:15:40,067 --> 00:15:42,167 WELL, OF COURSE, IT HAS TO BE THE GRAIL, RIGHT? 316 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,100 AND PEOPLE MAKE THIS GREAT LEAP 317 00:15:44,133 --> 00:15:47,200 FROM, "NO, IT'S LOVELY ANCIENT ARTIFACT." 318 00:15:47,233 --> 00:15:49,300 MAYBE IT WAS IN THE POSSESSION OF A WEALTHY FAMILY. 319 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:53,667 FANTASTIC. THAT'S AMAZING. THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT THE GRAIL. 320 00:15:57,267 --> 00:15:59,700 Narrator: THE SMALL, EGG-CUP-SHAPED VESSEL 321 00:15:59,733 --> 00:16:02,500 IS NOT EVERYONE'S IDEA OF THE HOLY GRAIL, 322 00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:04,833 LOOKING RATHER SMALL AND PLAIN. 323 00:16:04,867 --> 00:16:08,467 BUT WHEN YOU TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT DA VINCI'S LAST SUPPER, 324 00:16:08,500 --> 00:16:12,200 GUESS WHAT'S SITTING ON THE TABLE IN FRONT OF JESUS. 325 00:16:12,233 --> 00:16:15,133 A SMALL, GREENISH CUP. 326 00:16:19,167 --> 00:16:21,967 Fanthorpe: IT'S NOT VERY PROBABLE 327 00:16:22,067 --> 00:16:27,200 BECAUSE OF THE SIZE AND THE MATERIAL OF WHICH IT IS MADE. 328 00:16:27,233 --> 00:16:30,433 BUT THERE ARE THOSE WHO BELIEVE IT TO BE 329 00:16:30,467 --> 00:16:33,167 A VERY INTERESTING PIECE OF HISTORY. 330 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,967 THOUGH, I WOULDN'T PUT IT VERY HIGH ON THE LIST 331 00:16:36,067 --> 00:16:40,433 OF CLAIMANTS TO BE THE REAL HOLY GRAIL. 332 00:16:40,467 --> 00:16:44,233 Narrator: IS THIS WOODEN DRINKING BOWL THE REAL HOLY GRAIL? 333 00:16:44,267 --> 00:16:46,567 WAS IT BROUGHT TO BRITAIN FROM THE HOLY LAND 334 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:51,667 AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION BY JESUS' UNCLE, JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA? 335 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:54,933 AND DOES IT REALLY HAVE MIRACULOUS HEALING POWERS? 336 00:16:54,967 --> 00:16:57,100 THIS INCREDIBLE STORY CONTINUES 337 00:16:57,133 --> 00:17:00,267 WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 338 00:17:02,467 --> 00:17:03,967 Narrator: JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON 339 00:17:04,067 --> 00:17:05,667 IS ON THE TRAIL OF THE HOLY GRAIL. 340 00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:08,633 LOTS OF CUPS AND CHALICES DOWN THROUGH THE CENTURIES 341 00:17:08,667 --> 00:17:10,967 HAVE CLAIMED TO BE THE REAL THING, 342 00:17:11,067 --> 00:17:12,500 BUT ARE THEY? 343 00:17:12,533 --> 00:17:15,967 HIS SEARCH HAS, SO FAR, TAKEN HIM TO SHROPSHIRE IN ENGLAND 344 00:17:16,067 --> 00:17:20,333 AND THE FABLED HAWKSTONE GRAIL HIDDEN INSIDE A HILLSIDE. 345 00:17:20,367 --> 00:17:23,533 AND NOW HE HAS COME TO A COUNTRY ESTATE IN WALES 346 00:17:23,567 --> 00:17:25,333 TO SEE THE NANTEOS CUP, 347 00:17:25,367 --> 00:17:28,567 A SMALL WOODEN DRINKING BOWL THAT LEGEND SAYS 348 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,733 WAS BROUGHT BACK FROM THE LAST SUPPER 349 00:17:30,767 --> 00:17:33,667 BY JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA. 350 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:36,133 ACCORDING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE DRUNK FROM THE CUP, 351 00:17:36,167 --> 00:17:38,700 IT HAS AMAZING HEALING POWERS. 352 00:17:38,733 --> 00:17:42,433 BUT COULD THIS REALLY BE THE TRUE HOLY GRAIL? 353 00:17:42,467 --> 00:17:46,133 I'VE MET SOMEBODY WHO CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN HEALED. 354 00:17:46,167 --> 00:17:48,267 I BELIEVE HER WHEN SHE SAYS SHE WAS HEALED BY IT. 355 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:50,067 WHY NOT? 356 00:17:54,767 --> 00:17:56,300 Narrator: AS THE STORY GOES, 357 00:17:56,333 --> 00:17:59,667 JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA, JESUS' UNCLE, 358 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:02,867 BROUGHT THE CUP FROM THE LAST SUPPER TO GLASTONBURY, 359 00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:06,433 WHERE HE FOUNDED THE FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN BRITAIN. 360 00:18:06,467 --> 00:18:09,100 WE KNOW IT TODAY AS GLASTONBURY ABBEY. 361 00:18:09,133 --> 00:18:12,533 IT WAS WORSHIPPED THERE AS A SACRED RELIC FOR CENTURIES 362 00:18:12,567 --> 00:18:15,500 UNTIL HENRY THE VIII's DISILLUSION OF THE MONASTERIES 363 00:18:15,533 --> 00:18:17,133 IN THE 15th CENTURY, 364 00:18:17,167 --> 00:18:19,333 WHEN A GROUP OF MONKS RESCUED IT 365 00:18:19,367 --> 00:18:22,700 AND ESCAPED TO STRATA FLORIDA ABBEY IN WALES, 366 00:18:22,733 --> 00:18:26,067 JUST A SHORT DISTANCE FROM NANTEOS HOUSE. 367 00:18:28,067 --> 00:18:29,933 BEFORE THE FINAL MONK DIED, 368 00:18:29,967 --> 00:18:32,500 HE PASSED THE CUP ON TO THOMAS STEDMAN, 369 00:18:32,533 --> 00:18:37,967 THE OWNER OF NANTEOS, FOR SAFE KEEPING. 370 00:18:38,067 --> 00:18:41,733 THE SMALL WOODEN CUP PASSED FROM OWNER TO OWNER OF NANTEOS 371 00:18:41,767 --> 00:18:44,367 WITHOUT MUCH ATTENTION BEING PAID TO IT 372 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,733 UNTIL THE POWELL FAMILY TOOK OVER THE ESTATE 373 00:18:46,767 --> 00:18:48,833 IN THE MID-19th CENTURY, 374 00:18:48,867 --> 00:18:52,100 WHEN IT BECAME KNOWN LOCALLY AS THE HEALING CUP. 375 00:18:52,133 --> 00:18:53,567 THERE ARE RECORDS 376 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,167 OF MRS. POWELL ALLOWING PEOPLE TO DRINK FROM THE CUP 377 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,567 AND THEN BEING HEALED. 378 00:19:00,167 --> 00:19:03,233 IN 1905, IT WAS EXHIBITED LOCALLY 379 00:19:03,267 --> 00:19:06,567 AND REFERRED TO AS THE WELSH HOLY GRAIL. 380 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:11,133 AND, ALMOST OVERNIGHT, ITS FAME SPREAD FAR AND WIDE. 381 00:19:11,167 --> 00:19:14,066 GERALD MORGAN HAS STUDIED AND INVESTIGATED 382 00:19:14,067 --> 00:19:17,600 THE CLAIMS OF THE NANTEOS CUP FOR OVER 30 YEARS 383 00:19:17,633 --> 00:19:19,500 AND REMEMBERS SEEING THE ORIGINAL CUP 384 00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:22,600 ON DISPLAY INSIDE THE HOUSE. 385 00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:26,633 OH, THIS IS THE ROOM 386 00:19:26,667 --> 00:19:30,433 WHERE I REMEMBER COMING TO SEE THE SIDEBOARD HERE... 387 00:19:30,467 --> 00:19:32,467 WHERE THE CUP 388 00:19:32,500 --> 00:19:36,667 WOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE SIDEBOARD, AS I REMEMBER IT. 389 00:19:36,700 --> 00:19:38,767 Theakston: SO, THIS IS WHERE YOU FIRST SAW THE CUP? 390 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,100 OH, YEAH. HERE IN THIS CORNER. 391 00:19:41,133 --> 00:19:42,867 AND IS THIS IT HERE? 392 00:19:42,900 --> 00:19:46,066 THAT'S A GOOD PHOTOGRAPH OF IT. 393 00:19:46,067 --> 00:19:48,867 IT DOESN'T LOOK MUCH LIKE A CUP. 394 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:50,309 I MEAN, IT'S... IT'S QUITE BADLY DAMAGED. 395 00:19:50,333 --> 00:19:52,900 WELL, THIS IS THE RIM. AND IT WOULD HAVE GONE... 396 00:19:52,933 --> 00:19:54,967 NEARLY HALF THE CUP HAS BEEN LOST. 397 00:19:55,067 --> 00:19:57,533 THE BASE IS STILL THERE, BUT NEARLY HALF THE CUP 398 00:19:57,567 --> 00:19:58,933 HAS BEEN LOST. IT'S BEEN BROKEN. 399 00:19:58,967 --> 00:20:01,767 IT WAS PROBABLY BROKEN A VERY LONG TIME AGO. 400 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,533 AND OF COURSE, THE LEGEND GREW UP 401 00:20:03,567 --> 00:20:07,400 THAT ALL OF THIS WAS CAUSED BY PEOPLE NIBBLING IT. 402 00:20:07,433 --> 00:20:10,400 WELL, BECAUSE THEY WANTED BITS, 403 00:20:10,433 --> 00:20:12,367 PRESUMABLY AS SOUVENIRS. 404 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:13,900 WELL, THIS IS RUBBISH. 405 00:20:13,933 --> 00:20:18,333 IT'S A CLASSIC FOLK LEGEND TO EXPLAIN A PHENOMENON. 406 00:20:18,367 --> 00:20:21,367 WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A MEDIEVAL MAZER CUP 407 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,933 WHICH PROBABLY HAD A METAL RIM AROUND THE TOP, 408 00:20:23,967 --> 00:20:25,900 MIGHT EVEN BE SILVER. 409 00:20:25,933 --> 00:20:28,367 IT'S ALMOST CERTAINLY MADE OF WYCH ELM. 410 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,933 IT'S CERTAINLY NOT OLIVE WOOD, 411 00:20:29,967 --> 00:20:33,167 WHICH IS VERY TIGHTLY GRAINED AND A VERY, VERY HARD WOOD. 412 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,167 THIS ISN'T VERY HARD. 413 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,033 YOU CAN SEE HOW BROAD THE GRAIN IS. 414 00:20:36,067 --> 00:20:37,167 RIGHT. 415 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,500 THERE ARE SO MANY LEGENDS ABOUT IT 416 00:20:39,533 --> 00:20:43,767 TO TRY AND EXPLAIN THIS AND JUSTIFY THIS STORY. 417 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:49,533 BUT CERTAINLY, IT WAS USED AS A HEALING CUP. 418 00:20:49,567 --> 00:20:53,267 Fanthorpe: THE NANTEOS CUP IS OF PARTICULAR INTEREST TO ME 419 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:55,933 BECAUSE I'VE ACTUALLY HANDLED IT. 420 00:20:55,967 --> 00:20:59,367 AND I'VE TAKEN HOLY WATER FROM IT, 421 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,700 WHICH I HAVE GIVEN, WHEN THEY REQUESTED IT, 422 00:21:02,733 --> 00:21:08,600 TO SICK FRIENDS OR PEOPLE WHO HAD CONTACTED ME ABOUT IT. 423 00:21:08,633 --> 00:21:12,300 NOW, I'VE ALSO SEEN THE ANCIENT BOOK 424 00:21:12,333 --> 00:21:15,400 IN WHICH THE CUP WAS RECORDED 425 00:21:15,433 --> 00:21:18,233 WHEN IT WENT IN AND OUT OF THE HOUSEHOLD 426 00:21:18,267 --> 00:21:20,367 TO HELP SOMEBODY SICK. 427 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,600 AND THERE ARE ENTRIES SUCH AS, 428 00:21:24,633 --> 00:21:27,867 "CUP WAS LENT TO JOHN THE PLOWMAN." 429 00:21:27,900 --> 00:21:30,667 NEXT DAY, "HE HAS BROUGHT BACK THE CUP, 430 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,933 HAVING GIVEN HIS WIFE WATER FROM IT, 431 00:21:32,967 --> 00:21:36,733 AND SHE IS NOW MUCH BETTER AFTER THE FEVER." 432 00:21:36,767 --> 00:21:39,633 AND THERE'S A WHOLE BOOK OF THESE ENTRIES, 433 00:21:39,667 --> 00:21:44,133 OF WHERE WATER FROM THE CUP HAS ALLEGEDLY DONE GOOD. 434 00:21:47,067 --> 00:21:49,367 Butler: I KNOW IN A LOT OF THE CASES, 435 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:55,367 UM, THE PEOPLE WHO COME TO DRINK OUT OF THESE CUPS, UM, 436 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,900 ARE QUITE OFTEN HEALED 437 00:21:57,933 --> 00:22:02,533 AND HEALED FROM VERY GENUINE COMPLAINTS. 438 00:22:02,567 --> 00:22:06,066 NOW, IS IT THEIR OWN FAITH 439 00:22:06,067 --> 00:22:09,167 THAT'S HEALED THEM, OR IS IT SOMETHING MORE GOING ON? 440 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:15,433 Cox: YOU HAVE THESE CUPS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH MIRACLES 441 00:22:15,467 --> 00:22:17,467 AND VARIOUS MIRACULOUS ACTS AND HEALING. 442 00:22:17,500 --> 00:22:21,400 AND IT'S ALL AN AGENDA-DRIVEN EXERCISE. 443 00:22:21,433 --> 00:22:24,600 THESE TEND TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH CHRISTIAN 444 00:22:24,633 --> 00:22:27,433 OR WITH MODERN RELIGIOUS IDEALS. 445 00:22:27,467 --> 00:22:32,233 AND SO, IF YOU'RE A BELIEVER, THEN THE CUP IS SPECIAL. 446 00:22:32,267 --> 00:22:34,467 IF YOU'RE A BELIEVER, THEN YOU WILL HAVE THE MIRACLE 447 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:36,667 BECAUSE MIRACLES RELY ON YOU, 448 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:40,633 THE PERSON, THE OBSERVER, OR THE PERSON WHO'S GETTING THE MIRACLE 449 00:22:40,667 --> 00:22:43,100 ACTUALLY WANTING IT, OWNING IT, AND BELIEVING IT 450 00:22:43,133 --> 00:22:46,333 BECAUSE, IF YOU DON'T, IT DOESN'T. 451 00:22:46,367 --> 00:22:49,066 Theakston: THE OTHER GRAILS LOOK NICE, AND THEY'RE PRETTY CHALICES, 452 00:22:49,067 --> 00:22:53,066 BUT THIS SEEMS TO ACTUALLY HAVE A BENEFIT TO ITS BODY. 453 00:22:53,067 --> 00:22:54,933 YES, THAT'S BECAUSE PEOPLE BELIEVE IN IT. 454 00:22:54,967 --> 00:22:56,100 IT'S NOTHING TO DO 455 00:22:56,133 --> 00:22:58,433 WITH IT HAVING BEEN IN THE HANDS OF JESUS 456 00:22:58,467 --> 00:22:59,633 BECAUSE IT NEVER WAS. 457 00:22:59,667 --> 00:23:03,533 IT WAS ONLY MADE ABOUT 500 YEARS AGO AT THE MOST. 458 00:23:03,567 --> 00:23:06,200 BUT YOU DON'T DOUBT ITS HEALING PROPERTIES. 459 00:23:06,233 --> 00:23:07,900 NO, I'VE MET SOMEBODY 460 00:23:07,933 --> 00:23:13,233 WHO GENUINELY CLAIMS TO HAVE BEEN HEALED. 461 00:23:13,267 --> 00:23:15,333 I BELIEVE HER WHEN SHE SAYS SHE WAS HEALED BY IT. 462 00:23:15,367 --> 00:23:17,167 WHY NOT? 463 00:23:20,067 --> 00:23:23,500 Narrator: THE DEEPER JAMIE DELVED INTO THIS REMARKABLE STORY, 464 00:23:23,533 --> 00:23:26,167 THE MORE MYSTERIOUS IT GOT. 465 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,200 WHY WERE COPIES OF THE NANTEOS CUP MADE? 466 00:23:29,233 --> 00:23:32,533 WHY WAS THE ORIGINAL CUP SMUGGLED OUT OF WALES. 467 00:23:32,567 --> 00:23:34,600 AND WHERE IS IT TODAY? 468 00:23:34,633 --> 00:23:39,067 STARTLING REVELATIONS WHEN "FORBIDDEN HISTORY" RETURNS. 469 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,167 Narrator: JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON 470 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,700 IS ON THE HUNT FOR THE REAL HOLY GRAIL, 471 00:23:45,733 --> 00:23:47,700 BUT THERE ARE SO MANY CUPS AND CHALICES 472 00:23:47,733 --> 00:23:49,067 THAT CLAIM THAT TITLE. 473 00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:51,467 WHICH, IF ANY, ARE TRUE? 474 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:53,433 SO FAR, HE HAS BEEN SHOWN A SMALL, 475 00:23:53,467 --> 00:23:55,433 EGG-CUP-SHAPED OINTMENT JAR 476 00:23:55,467 --> 00:23:58,133 THAT IS SAID TO HAVE BEEN USED BY MARY MAGDALENE 477 00:23:58,167 --> 00:24:01,633 TO CATCH THE BLOOD OF JESUS AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION. 478 00:24:01,667 --> 00:24:03,567 AND NOW HE HAS COME TO WALES 479 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,067 TO EXAMINE A SMALL WOODEN DRINKING BOWL 480 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,400 THAT IS BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO BRITAIN 481 00:24:08,433 --> 00:24:09,767 FROM THE LAST SUPPER 482 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,633 BY JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA, JESUS' UNCLE. 483 00:24:13,667 --> 00:24:16,066 IT'S SAID TO HAVE AMAZING HEALING POWERS 484 00:24:16,067 --> 00:24:17,800 FROM THOSE WHO HAVE DRUNK FROM IT. 485 00:24:17,833 --> 00:24:21,900 SO, COULD THIS LITTLE BROKEN BOWL BE THE REAL THING? 486 00:24:21,933 --> 00:24:23,343 Theakston: AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED, 487 00:24:23,367 --> 00:24:26,633 THIS WAS THE CUP THAT JESUS DRANK FROM AT THE LAST SUPPER. 488 00:24:26,667 --> 00:24:28,467 Mirylees: YES. 489 00:24:35,067 --> 00:24:36,967 NIGEL JONES, THE CHEF 490 00:24:37,067 --> 00:24:39,567 AND GENERAL MANAGER OF NANTEOS HOUSE, 491 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,867 BELIEVES THAT HE SPOTTED SOME DISCREPANCIES 492 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:44,767 BETWEEN TWO HISTORICAL PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE CUP. 493 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,933 AND HE WANTS TO SHOW THEM TO JAMIE 494 00:24:46,967 --> 00:24:49,067 TO SEE WHAT HE MAKES OF THEM. 495 00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:51,167 Theakston: THAT'S THE DAMAGE THERE, RIGHT? 496 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:52,609 Jones: IT'S SIMILAR TO THE DAMAGE THERE, 497 00:24:52,633 --> 00:24:55,433 BUT IT'S NOT THE SAME, IS IT? IT ISN'T THE SAME. 498 00:24:55,467 --> 00:24:56,900 SO, WHICH IS THE REAL ONE? 499 00:24:56,933 --> 00:24:58,133 I BELIEVE THIS IS THE REAL ONE, 500 00:24:58,167 --> 00:24:59,233 AND THAT'S THE COPY. 501 00:24:59,267 --> 00:25:00,733 WHY DID THEY MAKE A COPY? 502 00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:03,867 THE POWELLS MADE A COPY BECAUSE, WITH PEOPLE DRINKING FROM IT, 503 00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,667 THEY USED TO NIBBLE BITS OFF, AND IT BECAME TOO DAMAGED. 504 00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:09,100 AND SO, TO PRESERVE IT, THEY HAD A COPY MADE. 505 00:25:09,133 --> 00:25:10,267 IS IT HERE IN THE HOUSE? 506 00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:11,733 THAT COPY IS NOT IN THE HOUSE. 507 00:25:11,767 --> 00:25:13,067 THERE IS ANOTHER ONE. 508 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:15,267 OKAY. CAN I SEE THAT ONE? YEAH, SURE. 509 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,567 SAFELY KEPT IN A JIFFY BAG. 510 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,109 I DIDN'T THINK I WAS GOING TO FIND THE HOLY GRAIL 511 00:25:23,133 --> 00:25:25,800 IN A JIFFY BAG. 512 00:25:25,833 --> 00:25:27,900 RIGHT. SO, THIS IS A REPLICA. 513 00:25:27,933 --> 00:25:30,767 IT'S A REPLICA OF A SIMILAR CUP. YEAH. 514 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,667 RIGHT. OKAY. IT'S EXTRAORDINARY. 515 00:25:36,467 --> 00:25:37,933 [ BIRDS CAWING ] 516 00:25:41,567 --> 00:25:44,066 THE PLOT WAS GETTING THICKER. 517 00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:47,567 FROM WHAT JAMIE HAD FOUND OUT, THERE WAS AN ORIGINAL CUP, 518 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,133 WHICH WAS TO SUPPOSED TO HAVE COME BACK FROM THE HOLY LAND 519 00:25:50,167 --> 00:25:52,800 VIA GLASTONBURY TO WALES. 520 00:25:52,833 --> 00:25:54,833 MRS. POWELL THEN MADE A COPY OF IT 521 00:25:54,867 --> 00:25:57,333 ONCE PEOPLE STARTED BITING PIECES OFF, 522 00:25:57,367 --> 00:26:01,467 HENCE THE DISCREPANCIES IN THE PHOTOS. 523 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,867 BUT TODAY, NEITHER ARE IN NANTEOS, 524 00:26:03,900 --> 00:26:06,733 JUST THE REPLICA IN THE PAPER BAG. 525 00:26:10,467 --> 00:26:13,267 SO, WHERE IS THE ORIGINAL CUP? 526 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,067 JAMIE WAS TOLD THAT IT'S KEPT 527 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,567 BY A DESCENDANT OF THE MIRYLEES FAMILY, 528 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,933 WHO INHERITED NANTEOS FROM THE POWELLS 529 00:26:20,967 --> 00:26:24,067 AND IS RARELY EVER SEEN. 530 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,567 BUT WHEN HE EXPLAINED HIS QUEST TO HER, 531 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,533 FIONA MIRYLEES AGREED TO LET HIM SEE THE CUP 532 00:26:29,567 --> 00:26:32,567 AS WELL AS THE ACTUAL WRITTEN RECORDS OF HEALINGS 533 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,200 THAT ARE KEPT WITH IT. 534 00:26:40,733 --> 00:26:44,333 YOU... YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS IS 2,000 YEARS OLD. 535 00:26:44,367 --> 00:26:46,533 YES. 536 00:26:46,567 --> 00:26:49,700 WHY DO YOU BELIEVE IT'S THE CUP FROM THE LAST SUPPER? 537 00:26:49,733 --> 00:26:53,333 WELL, IT HAS SUCH AMAZING POWERS. 538 00:26:53,367 --> 00:26:58,500 IN IT, YOU CAN SEE, LIKE, A COMMUNION CUP. 539 00:26:58,533 --> 00:26:59,900 CAN I... CAN I TOUCH IT? 540 00:27:00,067 --> 00:27:01,867 ONLY VERY GENTLY. VERY GENTLY. 541 00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:04,233 WELL, CAN I... IF I JUST... DO YOU MIND ME DOING THIS? 542 00:27:04,267 --> 00:27:06,100 I'LL KEEP IT IN THE GLASS. YEAH. 543 00:27:06,133 --> 00:27:07,509 IF I CAN OPEN THIS, IS THAT ALL RIGHT? 544 00:27:07,533 --> 00:27:09,100 JUST LEAVE IT THERE. 545 00:27:09,133 --> 00:27:12,066 OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. I UNDERSTAND. IT'S VERY... 546 00:27:12,067 --> 00:27:14,467 IS IT QUITE FRAGILE? YES. 547 00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,833 DO PEOPLE PUT BITS OF PAPER IN IT? 548 00:27:17,867 --> 00:27:20,667 UM, THESE ARE THE CURES. 549 00:27:21,833 --> 00:27:23,809 DO YOU WANT ME TO... I'LL HOLD THE BOOKS FOR YOU THERE. 550 00:27:23,833 --> 00:27:25,600 YEAH. 551 00:27:34,467 --> 00:27:36,900 AND SO, WHAT ACTUALLY ARE THESE? 552 00:27:42,767 --> 00:27:45,066 CAN I HOLD THIS? YES. 553 00:27:45,067 --> 00:27:49,367 SO, THIS IS DATED 31st OF MAY, 1858. 554 00:27:51,267 --> 00:27:56,133 FOR THE USE OF THE WIFE OF JAMES MORGAN. 555 00:27:56,167 --> 00:27:57,367 CURED. 556 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,800 SO, WHAT DID THESE ACTUALLY MEAN, THESE BITS OF PAPER? 557 00:27:59,833 --> 00:28:03,500 WELL, THEY'VE DRANK THE WATER FROM THE CUP, 558 00:28:03,533 --> 00:28:05,133 AND THEY'RE CURED. 559 00:28:05,167 --> 00:28:06,833 RIGHT. OKAY. 560 00:28:06,867 --> 00:28:11,733 AND THIS... THIS IS FROM, WELL, 150 YEARS AGO? 561 00:28:11,767 --> 00:28:14,533 THAT'S RIGHT. 562 00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:17,233 DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL? 563 00:28:17,267 --> 00:28:19,267 YES. YES, I DO. 564 00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:21,467 AND WHY DO YOU THINK THAT? 565 00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,600 WELL, I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE CURED. 566 00:28:24,633 --> 00:28:27,567 AND IT HAS A MARVELOUS FEELING TO IT. 567 00:28:31,533 --> 00:28:34,100 HAS ANY ANALYSIS BEEN DONE ON THE CUP 568 00:28:34,133 --> 00:28:35,800 TO PROVE HOW OLD IT IS? 569 00:28:35,833 --> 00:28:37,133 UM, NO. 570 00:28:37,167 --> 00:28:42,767 MY MOTHER ALWAYS SAID SHE DIDN'T WANT CARBON DATING. 571 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,200 WHY IS THAT? 572 00:28:44,233 --> 00:28:48,533 WELL, SHE JUST THOUGHT PEOPLE SHOULD BELIEVE IN IT. 573 00:28:52,067 --> 00:28:53,400 BUT AS FAR AS YOU'RE CONCERNED, 574 00:28:53,433 --> 00:28:56,467 THIS WAS THE CUP THAT JESUS DRANK FROM AT THE LAST SUPPER. 575 00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,300 YES. 576 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,633 IF A PERSON WAS TO DRINK FROM ONE OF THESE CUPS, 577 00:29:03,667 --> 00:29:06,933 AND THEY WERE HEALED, LIKE INTERACTING WITH ANY RELIC, 578 00:29:06,967 --> 00:29:09,433 IT BECOMES TRUE FOR YOU. 579 00:29:09,467 --> 00:29:13,100 SO IT MAY BE THAT THAT'S A SPIRITUAL PATH TO YOUR GOD, 580 00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:16,333 BUT IT'S A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR GOD 581 00:29:16,367 --> 00:29:19,933 AND AN OBJECT THAT YOU EMPOWER AND GIVE THE POWER TO 582 00:29:19,967 --> 00:29:23,933 AND BELIEVE THAT CAN ACTION THAT, CAN ENABLE THAT. 583 00:29:23,967 --> 00:29:26,200 THEN THAT WILL BECOME YOUR GRAIL IN A WAY. 584 00:29:26,233 --> 00:29:28,167 THAT BECOMES REAL FOR YOU. 585 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,667 Picknett: IF YOU DRINK FROM A GRAIL, 586 00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:37,067 A CUP THAT YOU BELIEVE TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH THE HOLY GRAIL, 587 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:40,400 AND, YOU KNOW, YOUR MIGRAINE STOPS IMMEDIATELY 588 00:29:40,433 --> 00:29:43,233 OR, YOU KNOW, YOU GROW ANOTHER LEG OR SOMETHING, 589 00:29:43,267 --> 00:29:46,467 OBVIOUSLY IT'S THE HOLY GRAIL FOR YOU. 590 00:29:46,500 --> 00:29:49,167 IT'S WHAT MATTERS TO YOU. 591 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,567 AND IT'S A PERSONAL ASSOCIATION. 592 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,066 IT'S AN INTIMATE CONNECTION 593 00:29:54,067 --> 00:29:57,067 WITH THE MAGICAL LEVEL OF THE GRAIL. 594 00:29:59,533 --> 00:30:02,833 Narrator: FIONA MIRYLEES HAS AN UNSHAKABLE FAITH 595 00:30:02,867 --> 00:30:06,700 THAT THE CUP IN HER POSSESSION IS THE REAL HOLY GRAIL. 596 00:30:06,733 --> 00:30:08,400 BUT MAYBE THE LOCAL HISTORIAN 597 00:30:08,433 --> 00:30:12,133 GERALD MORGAN'S VERSION OF EVENTS WAS CLOSER TO THE TRUTH. 598 00:30:12,167 --> 00:30:14,800 HE BELIEVES THAT MRS. POWELL WAS IN POSSESSION 599 00:30:14,833 --> 00:30:16,733 OF AN OLD MEDIEVAL BOWL 600 00:30:16,767 --> 00:30:19,967 AROUND WHICH A WHOLE GRAIL SAGA WAS WEAVED, 601 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,333 CREATING THE MYTH WE HAVE TODAY. 602 00:30:22,367 --> 00:30:26,100 BUT IS THERE ANY DECENT EVIDENCE THAT THIS SMALL BROWN BOWL 603 00:30:26,133 --> 00:30:30,600 WAS EVER IN THE HANDS OF JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA, LET ALONE JESUS? 604 00:30:30,633 --> 00:30:32,167 UNFORTUNATELY, NO. 605 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,067 IT'S A NICE STORY AND ONE THAT'S CONVINCED ENOUGH PEOPLE 606 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,267 TO ACTUALLY BITE CHUNKS OUT OF THE CUP OVER THE YEARS. 607 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:40,833 BUT IS THIS REALLY THE HOLY GRAIL? 608 00:30:40,867 --> 00:30:43,600 MOST PEOPLE REMAIN UNCONVINCED. 609 00:30:50,067 --> 00:30:55,767 NEXT ON JAMIE'S LIST IS NOT SO MUCH A GRAIL AS A GRAIL CLUE. 610 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200 AT SHUGBOROUGH HALL IN STAFFORDSHIRE, 611 00:30:58,233 --> 00:31:01,267 THERE'S A PECULIAR STONE MONUMENT IN ITS GROUNDS 612 00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:04,067 THAT SOME CLAIM CONTAINS A HIDDEN CLUE 613 00:31:04,100 --> 00:31:09,066 AS TO WHAT AND WHERE THE TRUE HOLY GRAIL IS. 614 00:31:09,067 --> 00:31:11,667 IT WAS BUILT IN THE EARLY 18th CENTURY 615 00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,533 BY A WEALTHY LANDOWNER CALLED THOMAS ANSON, 616 00:31:14,567 --> 00:31:16,533 THE SON OF A FAMOUS ADMIRAL, 617 00:31:16,567 --> 00:31:20,767 WHO WAS SAID TO HAVE CAPTURED A VAST SPANISH TREASURE. 618 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,633 IT DEPICTS A PAINTING CALLED "THE SHEPHERDS OF ARCADIA" 619 00:31:24,667 --> 00:31:26,400 BY NICOLAS POUSSIN, 620 00:31:26,433 --> 00:31:30,400 WHERE THREE MEN AND A WOMAN ALL POINT TO A TOMB. 621 00:31:30,433 --> 00:31:32,267 BUT HERE, FOR NO APPARENT REASON, 622 00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:35,567 IT'S CARVED IN BAS-RELIEF IN REVERSE. 623 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,733 MOST CURIOUS OF ALL ARE A SERIES OF EIGHT LETTERS 624 00:31:38,767 --> 00:31:41,300 ON THE BASE OF THE MONUMENT WHICH HAVE, SO FAR, 625 00:31:41,333 --> 00:31:43,800 ELUDED ALL ATTEMPTS TO DECODE THEM. 626 00:31:43,833 --> 00:31:46,733 EVEN CHARLES DICKENS MADE AN ATTEMPT. 627 00:31:48,833 --> 00:31:51,567 BRETT HARRISON WORKS FOR SHUGBOROUGH HALL 628 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,500 AND HAS BECOME SOMETHING OF AN EXPERT ON THE MONUMENT. 629 00:31:54,533 --> 00:31:58,066 HE THINKS THERE COULD WELL BE A NUMBER OF CLUES 630 00:31:58,067 --> 00:32:01,633 TO THE HOLY GRAIL HIDDEN IN THE STONE CARVINGS, 631 00:32:01,667 --> 00:32:05,867 POSSIBLY LEADING TO THE TOMB OF JESUS. 632 00:32:10,500 --> 00:32:13,867 IT'S A CLASSICAL SETTING, BUT WHAT'S THE GRAIL CONNECTION? 633 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:17,633 WELL, IF YOU REMEMBER, JESUS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SHEPHERD... 634 00:32:17,667 --> 00:32:19,567 SHEPHERD OF THE FLOCK. 635 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,167 THE FLOCK BEING PEOPLE, MORE PEOPLE. 636 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,267 SO, THE SHEPHERDS GUARDING THE TOMB. 637 00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:26,467 ARE THEY? 638 00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:28,400 REMEMBER THE POUSSIN PAINTING WAS REVERSED; 639 00:32:28,433 --> 00:32:29,833 THE SHEPHERDESS IS. 640 00:32:29,867 --> 00:32:34,200 UH, THE TOMB COULD BE WHERE THE GRAIL IS. 641 00:32:35,767 --> 00:32:39,333 SO YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT THE TOMB OF JESUS 642 00:32:39,367 --> 00:32:42,367 COULD BE THE GRAIL AS OPPOSED TO A CUP. 643 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,700 AS THE HOLY GRAIL OR AS A CONCEPT, 644 00:32:45,733 --> 00:32:47,667 OR YOU CAN BRING IN SOME PEOPLE 645 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,300 AS TO THEIR MARY MAGDALENE SIDE, AS WELL. 646 00:32:50,333 --> 00:32:53,267 IS SHE THE GRAIL? DOES SHE CONTAIN THE SPIRIT? 647 00:32:53,300 --> 00:32:55,567 YOU CAN GO OFF ON THAT ANGLE, AS WELL. 648 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,867 OR YOU CAN PUT YOUR OWN THEORIES TO IT. 649 00:32:57,900 --> 00:33:02,233 AND OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TRIED TO BREAK THIS CODE, AS WELL, 650 00:33:02,267 --> 00:33:05,067 THINKING THIS IS A CODE. 651 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:09,167 EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THESE LETTERS HAVE FASCINATED PEOPLE 652 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,300 WHO TRIED TO ANSWER THE GRAIL MYSTERY. 653 00:33:12,333 --> 00:33:17,066 IT'S 18th CENTURY. IT'S RIDDLES. THEY'RE LOVING RIDDLES. 654 00:33:17,067 --> 00:33:18,900 SO THEY'RE TRYING TO CONVEY A MESSAGE. 655 00:33:18,933 --> 00:33:21,367 IT MAY WELL BE THAT SOMETHING HAS BEEN PUT IN 656 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,067 AFTER THOMAS HAS DONE HIS GRAND TOUR. 657 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:26,433 HE'S SEEN SOMETHING ELSE, AND THESE HAVE BEEN ADDED. 658 00:33:26,467 --> 00:33:28,133 YOU MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN, 659 00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:31,767 BUT SOMEONE IN 1750s AND '60s WHO WAS WELL-TRAVELED 660 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800 AND AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS YOU 661 00:33:33,833 --> 00:33:38,267 WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS. 662 00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:41,867 Fanthorpe: ON THE MONUMENT ITSELF, 663 00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:45,400 WE HAVE THREE SHEPHERDS AND A SHEPHERDESS. 664 00:33:45,433 --> 00:33:49,933 ON THE SIDE OF THE TOMB AROUND WHICH THEY STAND 665 00:33:49,967 --> 00:33:54,733 IS THE MESSAGE, "ET IN ARCADIA EGO." 666 00:33:54,767 --> 00:33:57,433 ONE OF THE TRANSLATIONS IS, 667 00:33:57,467 --> 00:34:00,867 "I, TOO, AM IN ARCADIA." 668 00:34:00,900 --> 00:34:05,733 AND IF WE TAKE THE IDEA OF ARCADIA AS BEING PARADISE, 669 00:34:05,767 --> 00:34:09,067 THEN THE MESSAGE OF THE SHUGBOROUGH MONUMENT 670 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:15,667 IS THAT THE HOLY GRAIL IS IN ANOTHER WORLD. 671 00:34:15,700 --> 00:34:18,200 Howells: I THINK THE SHUGBOROUGH MONUMENT GIVES THE LOCATION. 672 00:34:18,233 --> 00:34:21,200 I THINK, IT'S A CODE TOWARDS A SPECIFIC PLACE. 673 00:34:21,233 --> 00:34:23,633 I THINK IT'S PART OF A TRADITION OF WHAT'S CALLED 674 00:34:23,667 --> 00:34:26,767 THE UNDERGROUND STREAM OF KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION 675 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,767 AND PROOF OF, PERHAPS, ALTERNATIVE VERSIONS 676 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,367 OF CHRISTIANITY, OF ALTERNATIVE IDEAS. 677 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,933 AND I THINK THESE OBJECTS AND DOCUMENTS, UH, 678 00:34:35,967 --> 00:34:38,667 WOULD HAVE BEEN PASSED ON THROUGH FAMILIES 679 00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:41,867 AND WOULD HAVE BEEN SECRETED IN SPECIFIC PLACES. 680 00:34:41,900 --> 00:34:45,633 AND SHUGBOROUGH MONUMENT IS ENCODED TO MAYBE MOVE PEOPLE 681 00:34:45,667 --> 00:34:47,900 ON TO THE NEXT LOCATION. 682 00:34:47,933 --> 00:34:52,167 Picknett: NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE INSCRIPTION MEANS. 683 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,066 UM, IT PROBABLY IS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE FAMILY 684 00:34:55,067 --> 00:34:57,066 THAT THE FAMILY THEMSELVES HAVE FORGOTTEN. 685 00:34:57,067 --> 00:34:58,467 THIS HAPPENS. 686 00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:04,267 THEY EVEN BROUGHT IN FORMER BLETCHLEY PARK CODE-BREAKERS. 687 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,733 AND THEY COULDN'T GET A HANDLE ON IT AT ALL. 688 00:35:07,767 --> 00:35:10,167 UM, SO IF THEY CAN'T DO IT, 689 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,800 I'M SURE I DON'T KNOW OF ANYBODY WHO CAN. 690 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:20,066 IS THIS HELPING ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GRAIL IS OR MIGHT BE? 691 00:35:20,067 --> 00:35:23,700 IT MIGHT BE HELPING YOU GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION 692 00:35:23,733 --> 00:35:25,867 OR SEVERAL DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS. 693 00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:27,567 IT COULD BE THAT THE GRAIL 694 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,867 IS A TOMB CONTAINING JESUS. 695 00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:32,600 IT MIGHT CONTAIN MARY MAGDALENE. 696 00:35:32,633 --> 00:35:34,267 IT MIGHT NOT BE A CUP. 697 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,066 IT MIGHT BE A CONCEPT. 698 00:35:36,067 --> 00:35:40,133 SO IT MAY BE WHATEVER YOUR HOLY GRAIL IS, 699 00:35:40,167 --> 00:35:41,600 WHATEVER YOUR BELIEF. 700 00:35:41,633 --> 00:35:43,633 THIS COULD POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 701 00:35:56,533 --> 00:36:01,833 Narrator: THE FINAL GRAIL ON JAMIE'S QUEST IS IN VALENCIA IN SPAIN. 702 00:36:01,867 --> 00:36:05,467 IT'S A SMALL STONE CUP CALLED THE SANTO CALIZ, 703 00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:10,833 AND IT'S KEPT UNDER TIGHT SECURITY IN VALENCIA CATHEDRAL. 704 00:36:10,867 --> 00:36:13,800 ACCORDING TO THE LEGEND, THE CUP WAS USED BY JESUS 705 00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:16,500 AND HIS DISCIPLES AT THE LAST SUPPER. 706 00:36:16,533 --> 00:36:19,433 IT WAS THEN BROUGHT BACK FROM THE HOLY LAND TO SPAIN 707 00:36:19,467 --> 00:36:22,133 BY THE CRUSADERS IN THE 12th CENTURY, 708 00:36:22,167 --> 00:36:24,900 WHERE IT WAS HIDDEN IN THE CLIFFTOP MONASTERY 709 00:36:24,933 --> 00:36:26,900 OF SAN JUAN DE LA PEÑA 710 00:36:26,933 --> 00:36:30,367 BEFORE BEING BROUGHT TO VALENCIA CENTURIES LATER. 711 00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:38,400 THE CUP HAS BEEN ANALYZED AND DATED TO THE 1st CENTURY A.D., 712 00:36:38,433 --> 00:36:40,333 GIVING IT A GOOD PROVIDENCE. 713 00:36:40,367 --> 00:36:43,333 BUT WHAT MAKES THE SANTO CALIZ SO EXTRAORDINARY 714 00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:47,367 IS THAT IT HAS BEEN USED TO CELEBRATE MASS BY NOT ONE, 715 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:53,167 BUT TWO POPES... JOHN PAUL II AND BENEDICT XVI. 716 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,567 Gough: THIS IS A CUP THAT'S HISTORICALLY TRACEABLE 717 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,333 IN LITERATURE AND ART TO THE 3rd CENTURY A.D. 718 00:36:58,367 --> 00:37:00,633 AND WHICH WAS TAKEN TO SPAIN. 719 00:37:00,667 --> 00:37:04,733 AND CASTLES AND FORTRESSES WERE BUILT TO PROTECT IT. 720 00:37:04,767 --> 00:37:07,233 JACA, SAN JUAN DE LA PEÑA, 721 00:37:07,267 --> 00:37:10,933 HUESCA, ZARAGOZA, AND TODAY IN VALENCIA. 722 00:37:10,967 --> 00:37:13,567 AND, IN FACT, RECENT TIMES, POPES HAVE KISSED IT. 723 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,667 AND SO, OF ALL THE CUPS AND CHALICES, 724 00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:20,833 THE ONE IN VALENCIA, YOU KNOW, THAT'S DARN INTERESTING. 725 00:37:20,867 --> 00:37:23,600 Prince: THE CUP IN WHICH THE WHOLE THING IS BUILT AROUND 726 00:37:23,633 --> 00:37:27,267 IS FROM THE RIGHT DATE AND FROM ABOUT THE RIGHT PLACE. 727 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:28,633 HUGE DOUBTS ABOUT WHETHER 728 00:37:28,667 --> 00:37:30,733 THAT THEREFORE MAKES IT THE CUP OF THE LAST SUPPER 729 00:37:30,767 --> 00:37:33,833 BECAUSE, HOW DID IT GET THERE? 730 00:37:33,867 --> 00:37:36,967 THERE'S NO STORY OF HOW IT GOT FROM THE 1st CENTURY TO, 731 00:37:37,067 --> 00:37:38,567 I THINK IT WAS THE 11th CENTURY 732 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,900 WAS THE FIRST TIME THIS ACTUALLY APPEARS IN DOCUMENTS. 733 00:37:42,933 --> 00:37:44,933 Picknett: WHEN TWO DIFFERENT POPES 734 00:37:44,967 --> 00:37:50,066 HAVE ACTUALLY USED THE VALENCIA CUP IN MASS 735 00:37:50,067 --> 00:37:52,067 THEY ARE TACITLY OF COURSE ENDORSING IT. 736 00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:53,833 THEY ARE SAYING, "THIS IS SPECIAL," 737 00:37:53,867 --> 00:37:55,233 AND ALLOWING PEOPLE 738 00:37:55,267 --> 00:37:58,300 TO PUT TWO AND TWO TOGETHER AND MAKE FIVE, BASICALLY, 739 00:37:58,333 --> 00:38:01,833 AND SAY, "THIS IS THE HOLY GRAIL." 740 00:38:01,867 --> 00:38:05,300 Narrator: IS THIS LITTLE STONE CUP IN VALENCIA CATHEDRAL 741 00:38:05,333 --> 00:38:08,133 THE TRUE HOLY GRAIL? 742 00:38:08,167 --> 00:38:11,600 WHY DOES THE VATICAN BELIEVE THAT IT WAS THE ACTUAL CUP 743 00:38:11,633 --> 00:38:15,433 THAT JESUS DRANK FROM 2,000 YEARS AGO? 744 00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:19,267 AND WHY IS IT KEPT UNDER SUCH TIGHT SECURITY TODAY? 745 00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:20,800 THE TRUTH IS REVEALED. 746 00:38:20,833 --> 00:38:25,533 COMING UP IN THE EXPLOSIVE FINAL PART OF "FORBIDDEN HISTORY." 747 00:38:28,567 --> 00:38:30,367 Narrator: JOURNALIST JAMIE THEAKSTON 748 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,433 HAS BEEN ON A QUEST TO FIND THE REAL HOLY GRAIL. 749 00:38:33,467 --> 00:38:36,500 IT'S TAKEN HIM TO SHROPSHIRE IN ENGLAND AND THE SMALL, 750 00:38:36,533 --> 00:38:38,066 EGG-CUP-SHAPED HAWKSTONE CUP 751 00:38:38,067 --> 00:38:39,833 MADE OF GREEN ALABASTER 752 00:38:39,867 --> 00:38:42,567 THAT WAS SAID TO HAVE BEEN USED BY MARY MAGDALENE 753 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,433 TO CATCH THE BLOOD OF JESUS FROM THE CRUCIFIXION; 754 00:38:45,467 --> 00:38:47,633 AND THEN THE NANTEOS CUP, 755 00:38:47,667 --> 00:38:49,100 A WOODEN DRINKING BOWL 756 00:38:49,133 --> 00:38:51,167 BELIEVED TO HAVE BEEN BROUGHT BACK TO BRITAIN 757 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,100 BY JOSEPH OF ARIMATHEA FROM THE LAST SUPPER. 758 00:38:54,133 --> 00:38:55,833 AND NOW, HIS FINAL STOP 759 00:38:55,867 --> 00:39:00,167 IS VALENCIA IN SPAIN TO SEE THE SANTO CALIZ, 760 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,400 A SMALL, POLISHED STONE CUP 761 00:39:02,433 --> 00:39:05,367 THAT THE VATICAN BELIEVES IS THE REAL THING. 762 00:39:13,067 --> 00:39:14,867 AS BEFITTING WHAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 763 00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:17,933 BELIEVES IS THE ACTUAL HOLY GRAIL, 764 00:39:17,967 --> 00:39:20,933 THE SANTO CALIZ IS KEPT IN ITS OWN GRAIL CHAPEL 765 00:39:20,967 --> 00:39:22,200 IN THE CATHEDRAL 766 00:39:22,233 --> 00:39:25,533 WITH ITS OWN GROUP OF GRAIL PRIESTS GUARDING IT. 767 00:39:25,567 --> 00:39:28,433 THE MAN WHO IS CHARGED WITH PROTECTING THE GRAIL 768 00:39:28,467 --> 00:39:30,933 IS CANON JAIME SANCHO. 769 00:39:37,067 --> 00:39:38,700 WOW. 770 00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:41,167 THIS IS MORE LIKE IT. 771 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:46,667 WHY DOES THE CHURCH BELIEVE THIS TO BE THE REAL HOLY GRAIL? 772 00:40:19,233 --> 00:40:26,233 Fanthorpe: WHEN PEOPLE CAN GO ON PILGRIMAGE TO SEE A HOLY OBJECT, 773 00:40:26,267 --> 00:40:31,267 THEY WILL BELIEVE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN BLESSED BY LOOKING AT IT. 774 00:40:31,300 --> 00:40:37,633 AND WE COME TO THAT OLD QUESTION AGAIN OF THE POWER OF THE MIND. 775 00:40:37,667 --> 00:40:40,867 IF YOU BELIEVE THAT A CERTAIN OBJECT 776 00:40:40,900 --> 00:40:44,200 WHICH YOU HAVE JUST SEEN OR HANDLED, I MEAN, UH, 777 00:40:44,233 --> 00:40:47,200 AS I HANDLED THE NANTEOS CUP, 778 00:40:47,233 --> 00:40:51,000 UH, YOU DO FEEL A CERTAIN SENSE OF WELL-BEING 779 00:40:51,033 --> 00:40:54,567 BECAUSE YOU'VE HAD THIS GOOD AND SACRED HOLY OBJECT 780 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,633 IN YOUR HANDS OR AT LEAST VERY CLOSE TO YOU 781 00:40:57,667 --> 00:41:03,900 WHEN YOU'VE LOOKED AT THE GLASS OF THE CASE IN WHICH IT'S HELD. 782 00:41:03,933 --> 00:41:07,467 Picknett: THE ENDORSEMENT, OR THE TACIT ENDORSEMENT OF THE VALENCIA CUP, 783 00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:09,767 HAS TO BE GOOD FOR THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. 784 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,733 IT SAYS, "LOOK, WE'VE GOT IT. NOBODY ELSE HAS GOT IT. 785 00:41:13,767 --> 00:41:15,243 NO OTHER CHURCH HAS GOT IT. WE'VE GOT IT. 786 00:41:15,267 --> 00:41:16,467 WE CAN LAY OUR HANDS ON IT. 787 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:19,066 THIS IS THE CUP THAT JESUS USED. 788 00:41:19,067 --> 00:41:20,767 THE POPE IS USING IT. 789 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,567 HURRAH." 790 00:41:25,333 --> 00:41:29,133 DURING MY QUEST, I'VE SEEN A LOT OF DIFFERENT CUPS AND CHALICES. 791 00:41:29,167 --> 00:41:33,067 IS THIS THE CLOSEST I'M GOING TO GET TO THE REAL THING. 792 00:42:21,667 --> 00:42:25,133 Picknett: RELICS ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO THE CATHOLIC CHURCH 793 00:42:25,167 --> 00:42:27,600 BECAUSE OF THE EFFECT THEY PRODUCE. 794 00:42:27,633 --> 00:42:31,833 JUST TALKING ABOUT THEM PRODUCES IN THE MIND OF THE BELIEVERS. 795 00:42:31,867 --> 00:42:34,933 BASICALLY, IT PULLS THE WHOLE CHURCH TOGETHER. 796 00:42:34,967 --> 00:42:36,067 AND IT SAYS, "LOOK, 797 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:39,433 WE ARE IN CONTROL OF THE JESUS STORY, 798 00:42:39,467 --> 00:42:41,066 WHICH IS REAL BY THE WAY BECAUSE, 799 00:42:41,067 --> 00:42:46,133 LOOK, WE HAVE THIS THING THAT JESUS HELD HIMSELF." 800 00:42:46,167 --> 00:42:50,933 Fanthorpe: IT'S DIFFICULT TO DECIDE WHICH OF THE NUMEROUS CONTENDERS 801 00:42:50,967 --> 00:42:56,467 FOR THE TITLE MIGHT BE THE REAL HOLY GRAIL, 802 00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,467 THE REAL CUP FROM WHICH 803 00:42:59,500 --> 00:43:04,633 CHRIST AND THE DISCIPLES DRANK AT THE LAST SUPPER. 804 00:43:04,667 --> 00:43:06,133 ON THE OTHER HAND, 805 00:43:06,167 --> 00:43:09,533 THE VENERATION FOR THE RIGHT REASON 806 00:43:09,567 --> 00:43:13,800 OF ANY OF THOSE HOLY OBJECTS IS A GOOD THING, 807 00:43:13,833 --> 00:43:16,333 RATHER THAN A BAD ONE. 808 00:43:16,367 --> 00:43:21,267 MY BEST GUESS WOULD BE FOR VALENCIA. 809 00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:25,800 IF I WAS COMPELLED TO SAY WHICH MY FAVORITE WAS, 810 00:43:25,833 --> 00:43:28,200 THAT'S THE ONE I WOULD GO FOR. 811 00:43:28,233 --> 00:43:31,767 BUT I WOULDN'T REALLY WANT TO PUT MONEY ON IT. 812 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,066 Narrator: JAMIE'S QUEST TO FIND THE ONE TRUE HOLY GRAIL 813 00:43:39,067 --> 00:43:42,066 HAS TAKEN HIM FROM HAWKSTONE PARK IN SHROPSHIRE, 814 00:43:42,067 --> 00:43:44,233 THROUGH TO ABERGAVENNY IN WALES, 815 00:43:44,267 --> 00:43:46,367 THE SHUGBOROUGH MONUMENT IN ENGLAND. 816 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:50,167 AND NOW, TO VALENCIA IN SPAIN. 817 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,967 ALL OF THE CUPS HE WAS SHOWN 818 00:43:52,067 --> 00:43:55,600 HAVE THEIR OWN FASCINATING STORY, THEIR OWN HISTORY, 819 00:43:55,633 --> 00:43:57,933 THEIR OWN CLAIMS OF AUTHENTICITY. 820 00:43:57,967 --> 00:44:03,433 BUT WHICH ONE, IF ANY, IS THE REAL HOLY GRAIL? 821 00:44:03,467 --> 00:44:07,067 THE TRUTH IS THEY ALL REQUIRE A LEAP OF FAITH, 822 00:44:07,100 --> 00:44:11,133 A BELIEF IN THE IDEA OF A GRAIL EXISTING AT ALL. 823 00:44:11,167 --> 00:44:12,633 BUT THE STRONGEST EVIDENCE 824 00:44:12,667 --> 00:44:18,100 AND THE BEST PROVENANCE SEEMS TO POINT TO THE SANTO CALIZ. 825 00:44:18,133 --> 00:44:19,733 THERE'S NO DEFINITIVE PROOF, 826 00:44:19,767 --> 00:44:22,067 BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THE LITTLE STONE CUP 827 00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,733 LOCKED AWAY INSIDE THE CATHEDRAL 828 00:44:24,767 --> 00:44:27,967 COULD HAVE BEEN DRUNK FROM BY JESUS CHRIST 829 00:44:28,067 --> 00:44:30,667 2,000 YEARS AGO. 65799

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