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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,585 --> 00:00:04,379 (suspense music) 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 4 00:00:11,178 --> 00:00:13,722 - [Stephen Hawking] A black hole is stranger than anything 5 00:00:13,764 --> 00:00:16,892 dreamed up by science fiction writers. 6 00:00:18,519 --> 00:00:22,940 A region of space where gravity is so strong 7 00:00:22,981 --> 00:00:24,942 that nothing can escape. 8 00:00:29,863 --> 00:00:32,074 Once you are over the edge, 9 00:00:33,158 --> 00:00:34,785 there's no way back. 10 00:00:39,957 --> 00:00:42,167 (rooster crows) 11 00:00:42,209 --> 00:00:43,460 (dog barking) 12 00:00:43,502 --> 00:00:46,171 (bells clanging) 13 00:00:52,052 --> 00:00:54,721 (birds chirping) 14 00:00:59,810 --> 00:01:02,437 (coyote barking) 15 00:01:07,317 --> 00:01:09,861 (horn honking) 16 00:01:17,119 --> 00:01:18,579 - Wow. 17 00:01:18,620 --> 00:01:20,289 It never ceases to get me, 18 00:01:20,330 --> 00:01:23,208 seeing these two mountains up here. 19 00:01:24,459 --> 00:01:25,919 It's a bit deceptive. 20 00:01:25,961 --> 00:01:27,170 It looks as though you can just hike up there 21 00:01:27,212 --> 00:01:28,880 in a couple of hours. 22 00:01:30,507 --> 00:01:35,137 But that is a big elevation shift from where we are now. 23 00:01:41,435 --> 00:01:43,604 - [Shep] I was not a big boy astronomer, 24 00:01:43,645 --> 00:01:47,232 I didn't have a telescope growing up 25 00:01:47,274 --> 00:01:51,153 but I do remember seeing what a black hole was. 26 00:01:51,194 --> 00:01:53,614 I thought there are very interesting things 27 00:01:53,655 --> 00:01:56,158 in the universe to be explored. 28 00:02:01,371 --> 00:02:04,791 The Event Horizon Telescope is a new instrument 29 00:02:04,833 --> 00:02:07,461 that a global team is assembling 30 00:02:08,795 --> 00:02:12,382 that will have the magnifying power to resolve 31 00:02:12,424 --> 00:02:16,595 the region immediately around a black hole. 32 00:02:16,637 --> 00:02:19,097 That's never been done before. 33 00:02:24,561 --> 00:02:27,564 We are chasing down something that struggles 34 00:02:27,606 --> 00:02:30,484 with all of its might to be unseen. 35 00:02:32,277 --> 00:02:35,572 And we're saying, we're gonna catch you. 36 00:02:41,328 --> 00:02:43,622 - When you get to about 15,000 feet, 37 00:02:43,664 --> 00:02:47,793 you're-you're above quite a bit of the atmosphere. 38 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:53,715 You really need to be above the atmosphere to see through 39 00:02:53,757 --> 00:02:56,718 to the emptiness of space. 40 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,513 (suspense music) 41 00:03:10,148 --> 00:03:11,817 The goal of the Event Horizon Telescope 42 00:03:11,858 --> 00:03:13,819 is really easy to state, 43 00:03:16,238 --> 00:03:20,450 we're gonna take the first picture of a black hole. 44 00:03:25,497 --> 00:03:28,542 - What I had yesterday as of noon, 45 00:03:28,583 --> 00:03:32,671 was every part of the system of the front end working. 46 00:03:32,713 --> 00:03:35,674 - [Shep] We've come to the LMT here in January 47 00:03:35,716 --> 00:03:39,761 specifically to do what's called a dry run. 48 00:03:39,803 --> 00:03:42,347 And we're discovering problems. 49 00:03:42,389 --> 00:03:46,059 - Then, we tried to replace the Gunn, now we've lost power, 50 00:03:46,101 --> 00:03:47,894 and that's what we're troubleshooting upstairs now. 51 00:03:47,936 --> 00:03:50,355 Today I'm gonna try to get the Gunn working again. 52 00:03:50,397 --> 00:03:51,815 The old Gunn-- 53 00:03:51,857 --> 00:03:53,316 - [Shep] But if we went back to this old Gunn, 54 00:03:53,358 --> 00:03:56,903 then, we're still compatible with the EHT-- 55 00:03:56,945 --> 00:03:58,029 - By doing a double-down conversion, yes. 56 00:03:58,071 --> 00:03:59,948 - For January and April. 57 00:04:01,408 --> 00:04:03,869 April is when we're gonna have all the telescopes 58 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:06,913 around the world, a full EHT working, 59 00:04:06,955 --> 00:04:09,708 and it's our best shot at imaging a black hole. 60 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:11,168 But before we get there, 61 00:04:11,209 --> 00:04:12,878 we had to make sure that everything is working. 62 00:04:12,919 --> 00:04:16,631 So the first goal is to try to get the 232.1 gigahertz 63 00:04:16,673 --> 00:04:18,550 working again with the old Gunn. 64 00:04:18,592 --> 00:04:21,052 If that doesn't work, then what? 65 00:04:21,094 --> 00:04:23,305 - My plan B is that-- (audio fades out) 66 00:04:23,346 --> 00:04:26,057 (birds chirping) 67 00:04:27,601 --> 00:04:29,728 - [Gopal] The larger the telescope, 68 00:04:29,770 --> 00:04:32,981 the better it's able to see tiny objects. 69 00:04:33,023 --> 00:04:36,818 To resolve the black hole in the center of our galaxy 70 00:04:36,860 --> 00:04:39,488 or the bigger black hole in M87, 71 00:04:40,947 --> 00:04:44,868 we need a telescope nearly the size of the earth. 72 00:04:46,453 --> 00:04:49,080 Well, that's clearly impossible. 73 00:04:50,123 --> 00:04:52,459 So we do the next best thing. 74 00:04:54,669 --> 00:04:57,339 We take telescopes scattered around the world 75 00:04:57,380 --> 00:05:01,927 and make them all look simultaneously at the black hole. 76 00:05:05,972 --> 00:05:09,309 - [Shep] Imagine taking a mirror 77 00:05:09,351 --> 00:05:11,436 and smashing it with a hammer 78 00:05:11,478 --> 00:05:15,524 and distributing these shards all over the world. 79 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:20,070 And then recording what happens on each of those shards 80 00:05:20,111 --> 00:05:21,696 and then bringing them together 81 00:05:21,738 --> 00:05:24,658 and reconstructing that mirror in a supercomputer. 82 00:05:24,699 --> 00:05:27,911 That's what the Event Horizon Telescope is doing. 83 00:05:27,953 --> 00:05:32,165 So at every site, everything has to work perfectly. 84 00:05:33,375 --> 00:05:36,670 - I think this thing took quite a hit. 85 00:05:36,711 --> 00:05:37,838 - In shipping? 86 00:05:39,297 --> 00:05:40,799 - If it turns on and it smokes 87 00:05:40,841 --> 00:05:41,925 then we'll know there's something wrong. 88 00:05:41,967 --> 00:05:42,759 - Yeah. 89 00:05:46,596 --> 00:05:48,723 - [Shep] We still have to make some tests. 90 00:05:48,765 --> 00:05:51,768 Tomorrow we are gonna trigger a real observation. 91 00:05:51,810 --> 00:05:56,022 And that's gonna involve the South Pole, Spain, Chile, 92 00:05:56,064 --> 00:05:58,525 and God willing, the LMT. 93 00:05:58,567 --> 00:06:00,610 - [Producer] You've got a clock ticking. 94 00:06:00,652 --> 00:06:02,153 - I know. 95 00:06:02,195 --> 00:06:04,865 Cue the Mission Impossible theme. 96 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:11,872 - Look, That's the telescope buried underneath 97 00:06:11,913 --> 00:06:14,374 that uh, S-H-I-T, if I may say so. 98 00:06:14,416 --> 00:06:16,668 - Wait, what happened here? 99 00:06:18,420 --> 00:06:19,379 - What-What happened? 100 00:06:19,421 --> 00:06:21,381 - Weather happened to us. 101 00:06:22,549 --> 00:06:24,175 - Wait, you're shitting me. 102 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:26,887 Last 16 hours it's been beautiful 103 00:06:26,928 --> 00:06:31,182 and as soon as we come up, like the gods hammer us? 104 00:06:33,184 --> 00:06:34,853 That's crap. 105 00:06:34,895 --> 00:06:36,187 - [Gopal] Well we can't point and focus 106 00:06:36,229 --> 00:06:38,356 through this weather right now 107 00:06:38,398 --> 00:06:39,900 - [Shep] The schedule is supposed to start-- 108 00:06:39,941 --> 00:06:41,985 - In 40 minutes, we know. 109 00:06:43,153 --> 00:06:44,279 In uh, 35 now. 110 00:06:46,031 --> 00:06:48,700 - If we're still in the clouds and it gets really cold, 111 00:06:48,742 --> 00:06:50,076 it's gonna be an ice situation. 112 00:06:50,118 --> 00:06:51,870 - [Gopal] Yeah. 113 00:06:51,912 --> 00:06:54,164 - That's a possibility. 114 00:06:54,205 --> 00:06:55,540 - [Gopal] That's what I'm worrying about. 115 00:06:55,582 --> 00:06:56,917 - Yeah, I'm really worrying about that. 116 00:06:56,958 --> 00:06:58,877 - Everybody cross their fingers, 117 00:06:58,919 --> 00:07:00,545 use your favorite incantations, 118 00:07:00,587 --> 00:07:02,547 and we'll clear through this. 119 00:07:02,589 --> 00:07:04,716 - [Shep] Okay, so we're gonna set levels in the other room 120 00:07:04,758 --> 00:07:06,217 and then we'll be ready to go. - I need to adjust 121 00:07:06,259 --> 00:07:07,844 the power level of the upstairs a little bit. 122 00:07:07,886 --> 00:07:09,888 - [Shep] You realize that we're firing this thing off 123 00:07:09,930 --> 00:07:12,098 in exactly 14 minutes and 15 seconds. 124 00:07:12,140 --> 00:07:14,851 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know but... 125 00:07:18,355 --> 00:07:19,147 Ah, jeez. 126 00:07:26,279 --> 00:07:28,073 Did you say 65-737 127 00:07:28,114 --> 00:07:30,784 - So it's RCP and LCP high, right? 128 00:07:30,825 --> 00:07:32,369 - We got one minute. 129 00:07:32,410 --> 00:07:34,371 - [Gopal] Here we go, people, hold onto your hats. 130 00:07:34,412 --> 00:07:36,039 - Okay, we're ready. 131 00:07:37,582 --> 00:07:40,710 - [Gopal] Four, three, two, one, zero! 132 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:44,130 Blast off. 133 00:07:44,172 --> 00:07:46,967 (suspense music) 134 00:08:49,195 --> 00:08:49,988 - Oh boy. 135 00:08:51,156 --> 00:08:52,866 What is a black hole? 136 00:08:54,492 --> 00:08:55,618 It is so deep, 137 00:08:56,703 --> 00:09:00,123 it's so hard to fully appreciate 138 00:09:00,165 --> 00:09:02,667 all of the physics that's going on. 139 00:09:02,709 --> 00:09:05,837 You can spend your life studying this. 140 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:16,723 Imagine an object where gravity has become so strong, 141 00:09:16,765 --> 00:09:19,434 it has compressed all of the material 142 00:09:19,476 --> 00:09:22,771 with which it started down into a point. 143 00:09:25,982 --> 00:09:29,694 This object develops what's called an event horizon. 144 00:09:29,736 --> 00:09:31,863 And this event horizon has this amazing property 145 00:09:31,905 --> 00:09:33,990 that it's a one-way street. 146 00:09:34,032 --> 00:09:36,493 You can go from the outside to the inside, 147 00:09:36,534 --> 00:09:38,661 nothing will ever get out. 148 00:09:41,247 --> 00:09:44,876 - The gravitational pull is so strong 149 00:09:44,918 --> 00:09:47,754 that anything that comes close enough to it 150 00:09:47,796 --> 00:09:49,756 will just vanish inside. 151 00:09:54,219 --> 00:09:58,473 If something disappears over the event horizon it's gone. 152 00:09:58,515 --> 00:10:02,602 And we no longer have any knowledge of it. 153 00:10:02,644 --> 00:10:06,940 It is no longer detectable, it's no longer knowable. 154 00:10:08,149 --> 00:10:09,776 It might still exist, 155 00:10:09,818 --> 00:10:13,905 it might not still exist, we have no way of knowing. 156 00:10:13,947 --> 00:10:16,574 We have a contact with a kind of phenomenon 157 00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:19,202 that we don't fully understand. 158 00:10:25,959 --> 00:10:28,753 - It's like a vortex in the universe 159 00:10:28,795 --> 00:10:30,255 in space and time. 160 00:10:31,714 --> 00:10:34,843 The darkest object we can imagine mathematically, 161 00:10:34,884 --> 00:10:38,805 fundamentally emits no light, reflects no light. 162 00:10:40,974 --> 00:10:42,725 But it becomes the engine 163 00:10:42,767 --> 00:10:47,605 of the most powerful events we now observe in the universe. 164 00:10:53,862 --> 00:10:56,239 There's something about that, 165 00:10:57,490 --> 00:11:01,619 that really pushes the mind. (laughs) 166 00:11:06,499 --> 00:11:08,710 - [Stephen Hawking] Can you hear me? 167 00:11:08,751 --> 00:11:10,128 - [Audience] Yes. 168 00:11:13,131 --> 00:11:17,135 - It is said that fact is sometimes stranger than fiction, 169 00:11:17,177 --> 00:11:18,720 but nowhere is that more true 170 00:11:18,761 --> 00:11:21,389 than in the case of black holes. 171 00:11:23,099 --> 00:11:26,102 Currently I'm working with my Cambridge colleague 172 00:11:26,144 --> 00:11:29,981 Malcolm Perry and Andy Strominger from Harvard, 173 00:11:30,023 --> 00:11:32,483 on a new theory to explain the mechanism 174 00:11:32,525 --> 00:11:37,488 by which information is returned out of the black hole. 175 00:11:38,281 --> 00:11:39,199 Watch this space. 176 00:11:44,871 --> 00:11:48,166 - [Andy] I met Stephen in 1982. 177 00:11:48,208 --> 00:11:52,003 Over the years we coincided on a number of topics, 178 00:11:52,045 --> 00:11:56,466 a surprising number but the very kind of intense thing 179 00:11:57,717 --> 00:11:59,510 that's grown over the last, what is it now? 180 00:11:59,552 --> 00:12:00,637 - [Malcolm] Three years? - Three years. 181 00:12:00,678 --> 00:12:01,971 - [Malcolm] Yeah. - Yeah. 182 00:12:02,013 --> 00:12:05,058 Has been a whole new, wonderful level. 183 00:12:08,144 --> 00:12:09,187 - [Malcolm] And quite different. 184 00:12:09,229 --> 00:12:11,522 - [Andy] Quite different, yeah. 185 00:12:12,732 --> 00:12:15,944 - [Malcolm] It was a fabulous warm day, 186 00:12:17,195 --> 00:12:19,530 kind of unusual in England for April. 187 00:12:19,572 --> 00:12:22,533 So we had a lecture outside. 188 00:12:22,575 --> 00:12:25,495 This was in a place called Great Brampton House. 189 00:12:25,536 --> 00:12:27,372 - For the last 10 years, 190 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:31,209 Stephen and friends organized a small retreat. 191 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:35,546 I had these ideas about 192 00:12:36,756 --> 00:12:38,675 the structure of the edges of infinity 193 00:12:38,716 --> 00:12:41,719 and how they could store information. 194 00:12:43,263 --> 00:12:45,223 - I was simply listening to this lecture 195 00:12:45,265 --> 00:12:48,351 and I felt that the phenomenon he was describing 196 00:12:48,393 --> 00:12:51,854 could be happening on the surface of the black hole. 197 00:12:51,896 --> 00:12:54,983 - Stephen picked up on that immediately. 198 00:12:55,024 --> 00:12:57,193 And he said, this is it, this is the piece 199 00:12:57,235 --> 00:12:59,153 that we've been missing. 200 00:13:00,405 --> 00:13:03,241 He is very eager to unravel the paradox 201 00:13:03,283 --> 00:13:06,494 that he unleashed on the world in 1975. 202 00:13:08,037 --> 00:13:11,249 - Something called the information paradox, 203 00:13:11,291 --> 00:13:12,959 which basically says that black holes 204 00:13:13,001 --> 00:13:17,422 annihilate information which should not be possible. 205 00:13:17,463 --> 00:13:19,048 That's the paradox. 206 00:13:19,090 --> 00:13:20,800 It implies that there's a breakdown 207 00:13:20,842 --> 00:13:25,346 of laws of physics in the presence of black holes. 208 00:13:25,388 --> 00:13:26,973 - This is why we're chasing this problem, 209 00:13:27,015 --> 00:13:29,934 because if information is lost, then that contradicts 210 00:13:29,976 --> 00:13:32,687 almost everything we know about physics. 211 00:13:32,729 --> 00:13:37,483 Something's gone wrong understanding how black holes work. 212 00:13:37,525 --> 00:13:38,985 - From the outside, 213 00:13:39,027 --> 00:13:43,197 you can't tell what is inside a black hole. 214 00:13:43,239 --> 00:13:46,451 - When you look at a black hole, all you can tell about it 215 00:13:46,492 --> 00:13:49,871 are its mass, its charge and its state of rotation. 216 00:13:49,912 --> 00:13:51,456 And that's the same for any black hole 217 00:13:51,497 --> 00:13:53,624 no matter what it was made out of. 218 00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:57,795 - This means that a black hole contains a lot of information 219 00:13:57,837 --> 00:14:00,882 that is hidden from the outside world. 220 00:14:02,342 --> 00:14:04,635 - That was a very weird thing people to get to grips with 221 00:14:04,677 --> 00:14:07,138 and then Stephen Hawking made this amazing discovery 222 00:14:07,180 --> 00:14:09,557 of Hawking Radiation, that says actually 223 00:14:09,599 --> 00:14:11,351 stuff comes out of a black hole, 224 00:14:11,392 --> 00:14:15,021 and that's where the problem really started. 225 00:14:18,191 --> 00:14:22,153 - It turns out they're not black, they radiate. 226 00:14:22,195 --> 00:14:27,158 And as they radiate they lose mass and eventually disappear. 227 00:14:29,118 --> 00:14:31,954 An equivalent mass of elephants could form a black hole, 228 00:14:31,996 --> 00:14:33,873 an equivalent mass of Encyclopedia Britannica 229 00:14:33,915 --> 00:14:35,458 could form a black hole. 230 00:14:35,500 --> 00:14:37,210 The black hole evaporates and what's left behind 231 00:14:37,251 --> 00:14:41,130 is the same sea of Hawking Radiation. 232 00:14:41,172 --> 00:14:43,049 - It appears that the information 233 00:14:43,091 --> 00:14:45,301 about what fell in is lost. 234 00:14:46,761 --> 00:14:49,514 The particles that come out of a black hole 235 00:14:49,555 --> 00:14:52,100 seem to be completely random 236 00:14:52,141 --> 00:14:55,436 and to bear no relation to what fell in. 237 00:14:59,315 --> 00:15:01,943 - If what Hawking said were correct, 238 00:15:01,984 --> 00:15:04,278 it can spit out anything. 239 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,824 It can spit out a piano, it can spit out a trombone. 240 00:15:07,865 --> 00:15:10,326 It can, anything can come out. 241 00:15:16,582 --> 00:15:21,170 That means that the basic nature of the universe 242 00:15:21,212 --> 00:15:22,380 is just random. 243 00:15:27,218 --> 00:15:29,595 There aren't really physical laws 244 00:15:29,637 --> 00:15:32,348 which govern the entire universe. 245 00:15:33,933 --> 00:15:36,894 This is every physicist's nightmare. 246 00:15:40,314 --> 00:15:45,236 - Much of our knowledge of the universe is grounded on 247 00:15:45,278 --> 00:15:47,488 our belief that we can reliably predict 248 00:15:47,530 --> 00:15:49,907 using the laws of nature. 249 00:15:49,949 --> 00:15:51,576 We have a physical theory, 250 00:15:51,617 --> 00:15:53,619 we make predictions using that theory. 251 00:15:53,661 --> 00:15:55,580 We do experiments or observations to see 252 00:15:55,621 --> 00:15:58,499 if those predictions were realized. 253 00:16:00,501 --> 00:16:03,212 We understand the early universe by using 254 00:16:03,254 --> 00:16:06,549 the laws of physics to predict backwards 255 00:16:06,591 --> 00:16:10,136 and say what the world must have been like. 256 00:16:11,304 --> 00:16:13,306 If those laws break down, 257 00:16:16,684 --> 00:16:19,604 it's about the limits of knowledge. 258 00:16:23,024 --> 00:16:27,987 What sorts of things could we possibly know about the world? 259 00:16:35,620 --> 00:16:38,247 - If the predictability of the universe 260 00:16:38,289 --> 00:16:40,500 breaks down with black holes, 261 00:16:40,541 --> 00:16:43,836 it could break down in other situations. 262 00:16:45,213 --> 00:16:48,466 Even worse, if information is lost, 263 00:16:48,508 --> 00:16:52,136 we can't be sure of our past history either. 264 00:16:53,679 --> 00:16:58,351 The history books and our memories could just be illusions. 265 00:16:59,727 --> 00:17:02,980 It is the past that tells us who we are. 266 00:17:05,358 --> 00:17:07,985 Without it we lose our identity. 267 00:17:20,289 --> 00:17:22,667 (mixer whirring) 268 00:17:22,708 --> 00:17:24,669 - Since I was a graduate student, 269 00:17:24,710 --> 00:17:29,340 the information paradox has been central in my thinking. 270 00:17:34,971 --> 00:17:38,015 It's a sort of 24/7 thing. 271 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:41,686 I get up, I make myself a cup of coffee, 272 00:17:41,727 --> 00:17:44,230 I sit down with a pad of paper. 273 00:17:45,565 --> 00:17:49,402 I'm thinking about it when I brush my teeth, 274 00:17:49,443 --> 00:17:50,695 dream about it. 275 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:59,579 It is the most interesting, well-posed question 276 00:18:01,747 --> 00:18:03,207 in modern physics. 277 00:18:06,836 --> 00:18:08,379 So interesting that 278 00:18:09,839 --> 00:18:14,552 I was ready to devote my life to trying to understand it. 279 00:18:17,138 --> 00:18:20,224 (indistinct chatter) 280 00:18:26,439 --> 00:18:29,900 In the 40 years since Hawking's argument. 281 00:18:29,942 --> 00:18:33,195 - By the way, while Malcolm's erasing-- 282 00:18:33,237 --> 00:18:36,907 - There's certainly been thousands of papers 283 00:18:36,949 --> 00:18:40,161 about how the paradox might be avoided. 284 00:18:41,245 --> 00:18:43,998 (indistinct chatter) 285 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,459 None of them has gained 286 00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:48,794 universal acceptance 287 00:18:48,836 --> 00:18:53,090 and they all are problematic in one way or another. 288 00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:57,428 - So the magical formula I think I could write out 289 00:18:57,470 --> 00:19:00,264 in excruciating detail. - Yeah. 290 00:19:00,306 --> 00:19:02,808 So while Malcolm's writing, uh, 291 00:19:04,226 --> 00:19:08,272 what we've done is first of all worked out-- 292 00:19:08,314 --> 00:19:12,777 But now, Stephen, Malcolm and I have found a mechanism 293 00:19:14,236 --> 00:19:18,824 by which the information paradox might possibly be resolved. 294 00:19:19,825 --> 00:19:21,869 Wow, seems very exciting. 295 00:19:23,079 --> 00:19:24,372 - It's the beginning of something deep, 296 00:19:24,413 --> 00:19:25,873 that we really quite don't know what. 297 00:19:25,915 --> 00:19:28,292 - Investigating this is vigorously underway now. 298 00:19:28,334 --> 00:19:29,794 - But central in terms of what? 299 00:19:29,835 --> 00:19:32,421 - Well, it's a super rotation. 300 00:19:32,463 --> 00:19:34,006 - Huh. 301 00:19:34,048 --> 00:19:37,426 - So, the super rotations, so ordinary BMS group. 302 00:19:38,636 --> 00:19:41,180 Physics is about finding the truth 303 00:19:42,431 --> 00:19:43,974 about the universe. 304 00:19:44,934 --> 00:19:48,145 We might not ever get all of it. 305 00:19:48,187 --> 00:19:49,814 This then gives us a conservation law. 306 00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:54,151 But I think there's a good shot that in my lifetime, 307 00:19:55,277 --> 00:19:56,904 we'll nail this one. 308 00:19:56,946 --> 00:20:01,617 And so that's conservation of super rotation charge. 309 00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:03,494 Now, let me erase here. 310 00:20:09,208 --> 00:20:12,002 (suspense music) 311 00:20:18,676 --> 00:20:20,469 - Seeing is believing. 312 00:20:22,388 --> 00:20:25,349 That's the most credible and the most powerful sense 313 00:20:25,391 --> 00:20:27,184 that we have. 314 00:20:27,226 --> 00:20:29,353 We need to see things. 315 00:20:29,395 --> 00:20:31,188 We long to see things. 316 00:20:35,025 --> 00:20:37,069 In my mind, like for 10 years, 317 00:20:37,111 --> 00:20:38,904 there's no question there is a black hole 318 00:20:38,946 --> 00:20:40,531 and there's no question it's possible. 319 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:42,867 I still wanna see that stupid image. 320 00:20:42,908 --> 00:20:44,535 Yeah, I wanna see it. 321 00:20:49,749 --> 00:20:53,335 - We have never actually seen the telltale sign 322 00:20:53,377 --> 00:20:57,715 of the black hole which is that virtual region, the horizon, 323 00:20:57,757 --> 00:21:00,885 from which not even light can escape. 324 00:21:00,926 --> 00:21:02,928 With the Event Horizon Telescope we're gonna zoom 325 00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:05,389 all the way to the size of the horizon, 326 00:21:05,431 --> 00:21:10,394 and see if it will cast a silhouette, will cast a shadow. 327 00:21:11,771 --> 00:21:12,730 - The Event Horizon Telescope is the culmination 328 00:21:12,772 --> 00:21:14,732 of really decades of work. 329 00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:21,197 Once we began to realize that we could make an image, 330 00:21:21,238 --> 00:21:23,199 that became fascinating. 331 00:21:25,075 --> 00:21:27,703 So over the past years we've gone to new sites, 332 00:21:27,745 --> 00:21:29,413 and we've had to convince those new sites 333 00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:32,374 that the science is worthy. 334 00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:35,795 We've had to develop and install very specialized 335 00:21:35,836 --> 00:21:38,589 and expensive equipment at all of these sites, 336 00:21:38,631 --> 00:21:41,133 in all of these extreme places. 337 00:21:45,721 --> 00:21:48,140 We are now at the moment when we'll be doing 338 00:21:48,182 --> 00:21:52,686 our first observing with the chance of making an image. 339 00:21:53,896 --> 00:21:55,147 - [Feryal] That's still a question mark 340 00:21:55,189 --> 00:21:57,858 but local wisdom is a go. 341 00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,151 - [Dimitrios] Yeah. 342 00:21:59,193 --> 00:22:01,654 SPT weather good, no-go for pointing. 343 00:22:03,405 --> 00:22:04,990 - [Feryal] Pointing issues. 344 00:22:05,032 --> 00:22:07,409 - [Dimitrios] SMT technically ready, weather forecast 345 00:22:07,451 --> 00:22:11,831 possible of high wind but unlikely to cause anything. 346 00:22:11,872 --> 00:22:13,874 - [Feryal] So night's outlook is good, right? 347 00:22:13,916 --> 00:22:15,960 - [Dimitrios] Yes. 348 00:22:16,001 --> 00:22:18,170 - We set up telescopes around the earth 349 00:22:18,212 --> 00:22:22,424 that can talk to each other, that can record data in tandem, 350 00:22:22,466 --> 00:22:25,553 so after the fact we can combine these data 351 00:22:25,594 --> 00:22:30,057 and make it act like they were actually one telescope. 352 00:22:32,142 --> 00:22:35,396 Right now, the Event Horizon Telescope is an array 353 00:22:35,437 --> 00:22:38,816 of eight dishes across the globe. 354 00:22:38,858 --> 00:22:43,821 From the South Pole to the Arizona desert to Hawaii to Chile 355 00:22:47,658 --> 00:22:51,495 creating effectively, an earth-sized telescope. 356 00:22:53,372 --> 00:22:55,249 - [Dimitrios] Weather forecast is good for Pico? 357 00:22:55,291 --> 00:22:58,002 - [Feryal] I mean, they say excellent, so. 358 00:22:58,043 --> 00:22:59,295 - [Shep] Looks pretty good to me. 359 00:22:59,336 --> 00:23:00,713 - [Feryal] I'm changing this to 0.2. 360 00:23:00,754 --> 00:23:04,008 - I'd like to see the LMT water vapor map. 361 00:23:05,009 --> 00:23:07,344 (indistinct chatter) 362 00:23:07,386 --> 00:23:09,388 When you have a single facility, 363 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:11,181 it's the weather above that one telescope 364 00:23:11,223 --> 00:23:13,726 that has to be perfect for a night's observing. 365 00:23:13,767 --> 00:23:15,477 Now imagine you need perfect weather 366 00:23:15,519 --> 00:23:18,522 at every single site around the array. 367 00:23:18,564 --> 00:23:22,109 - By the time we start observing, it's gonna have moved past 368 00:23:22,151 --> 00:23:24,361 but we don't know what else is gonna move in. 369 00:23:24,403 --> 00:23:26,155 Seems to be accelerating. 370 00:23:26,196 --> 00:23:28,866 - Right, so SMT is getting worse. 371 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,869 - So what are the pinch points here? 372 00:23:31,911 --> 00:23:35,456 It's really just LMT and SMT and we're gonna have to make 373 00:23:35,497 --> 00:23:38,375 a decision at South Pole just based on what we know now 374 00:23:38,417 --> 00:23:40,294 which is they might have pointing issues. 375 00:23:40,336 --> 00:23:43,881 - LMT, how worried are you about the maser? 376 00:23:45,007 --> 00:23:46,425 - I'm a little worried about the maser 377 00:23:46,467 --> 00:23:47,718 just because we haven't done some of the tests 378 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,763 that would let us see how good it is. 379 00:23:52,973 --> 00:23:55,392 - Shep, it's 3130, we have half an hour. 380 00:23:55,434 --> 00:23:56,268 - [Shep] Yeah. 381 00:23:56,310 --> 00:23:57,895 - Should we call it? 382 00:24:03,192 --> 00:24:06,278 - I basically think that we should trigger for tonight. 383 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,572 I think it's probably the best weather we're gonna get, 384 00:24:08,614 --> 00:24:10,199 technical issues are breaking our way. 385 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,368 I mean, of all the nights to have a question mark 386 00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:14,119 by South Pole this is the one to have it. 387 00:24:14,161 --> 00:24:15,537 - [Dimitrios] Yeah. 388 00:24:15,579 --> 00:24:18,999 - Um, will get some pretty good M87 scans, 389 00:24:21,293 --> 00:24:23,420 one hopes, right? 390 00:24:23,462 --> 00:24:24,797 - Yep. 391 00:24:24,838 --> 00:24:27,007 - So let it be written, so let it be done. 392 00:24:27,049 --> 00:24:30,094 I will make the decision, I will broadcast it. 393 00:24:30,135 --> 00:24:33,764 - [Lady] Night five, track D is a go! 394 00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:37,226 - May all future nights be as good as this one. 395 00:24:37,267 --> 00:24:39,979 - And then, all around the world, 396 00:24:41,146 --> 00:24:44,191 all the telescopes swivel at the same time 397 00:24:44,233 --> 00:24:48,862 and we will begin to record photons from the black hole. 398 00:24:59,915 --> 00:25:01,750 - How big a black hole looks in the sky 399 00:25:01,792 --> 00:25:06,088 is a combination of its mass and how far away it is. 400 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,635 The black hole at the center of our galaxy, Sagittarius A#, 401 00:25:11,677 --> 00:25:16,640 has the largest angular size in the sky followed by M87. 402 00:25:17,850 --> 00:25:20,310 M87's black hole is a thousand times bigger 403 00:25:20,352 --> 00:25:23,897 but roughly a thousand times farther away. 404 00:25:23,939 --> 00:25:28,652 They turn out to have pretty comparable sizes in the sky. 405 00:25:34,491 --> 00:25:38,203 - This is central command, it's always manned 24/7. 406 00:25:38,245 --> 00:25:40,831 Uh, people write in and they say I'm having an emergency 407 00:25:40,873 --> 00:25:45,169 with one of my recorders, or my receiver, or something. 408 00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:47,379 - We hope to be bored. 409 00:25:47,421 --> 00:25:49,048 We hope that there's nothing to do 410 00:25:49,089 --> 00:25:50,632 and that everything is going smoothly 411 00:25:50,674 --> 00:25:52,885 and that nothing goes wrong. 412 00:25:52,926 --> 00:25:56,055 But you know, we're here just in case. 413 00:25:57,514 --> 00:26:02,144 - We've just finished day three of the EHT observations. 414 00:26:02,895 --> 00:26:04,438 It's been unprecedented. 415 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,067 We triggered three consecutive nights of observing 416 00:26:08,108 --> 00:26:10,694 and that's because the weather has been phenomenal. 417 00:26:10,736 --> 00:26:12,738 And the team is quite tired 418 00:26:12,780 --> 00:26:15,532 because we've been working round the clock for three days. 419 00:26:15,574 --> 00:26:17,326 They're at high altitude sites, 420 00:26:17,367 --> 00:26:19,369 they're paying a lot of attention to detail, 421 00:26:19,411 --> 00:26:20,996 they're under a lot of stress, 422 00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:22,623 they're trying to run down problems, 423 00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:26,960 and we're pushing people to the limit at this point. 424 00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:33,467 (birds chirping) 425 00:26:37,304 --> 00:26:40,140 - [Atish] Final scan of Sagittarius A# begins. 426 00:26:40,182 --> 00:26:42,684 - This is it, oh yeah, so this is it, 427 00:26:42,726 --> 00:26:47,523 the final scan of the 2017 observations on Sagittarius A#. 428 00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:53,821 (soft Hawaiian music) 429 00:27:02,246 --> 00:27:07,209 ♩ Somewhere over the rainbow ♩ 430 00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:12,089 ♩ Bluebirds fly ♩ 431 00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:13,715 Did you write that woohoo? 432 00:27:13,757 --> 00:27:16,135 - Yup. (chuckles) 433 00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:18,929 ♩ Dreams that you dream of ♩ 434 00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:23,934 ♩ Dreams really do come true-ooh-ooh ♩ 435 00:27:27,271 --> 00:27:30,232 ♩ Someday I'll wish upon a star ♩ 436 00:27:30,274 --> 00:27:35,237 ♩ Wake up where the clouds are far behind me ♩ 437 00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:39,783 ♩ Where trouble melts like lemon drops ♩ 438 00:27:39,825 --> 00:27:42,452 - I think this song just really captures 439 00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:45,289 how good it is to realize something 440 00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:48,375 that you've been working on for ages. 441 00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:51,837 - [Producer] How long? 442 00:27:52,838 --> 00:27:55,299 I've been working on this for, 443 00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,092 I don't know, 20 years. 444 00:27:57,134 --> 00:27:59,761 ♩ Bluebirds fly ♩ 445 00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,265 Next at every EHT site, 446 00:28:03,307 --> 00:28:05,976 everybody will pack up the hard disk drives 447 00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:08,145 carefully, very carefully, 448 00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:13,942 ship them back to the central processing facility. 449 00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:15,819 Wait, guys, we're done. 450 00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,823 We've just finished the whole scan thing, 451 00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,825 we're done, it's a wrap! 452 00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:24,995 (team applauding) 453 00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:28,373 We just finished the entire scan, 454 00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:32,502 and the entire schedule, and the entire campaign, 455 00:28:34,254 --> 00:28:37,382 and the entire Event Horizon Telescope 456 00:28:38,634 --> 00:28:40,844 observations for this year. 457 00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:46,308 The great challenge for the Event Horizon Telescope 458 00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:48,435 is only when you get all the data back 459 00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:49,853 to the central correlation facility, 460 00:28:49,895 --> 00:28:52,356 do you truly know that everything worked. 461 00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:55,025 And that will take over a month. 462 00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:58,403 Until then there's always this tension, 463 00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:00,030 there's always this slight uncertainty 464 00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:02,699 that something's been overlooked. 465 00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:08,038 So May, springtime, rebirth, imaging black holes, 466 00:29:10,916 --> 00:29:14,920 it's gonna be quite a summer, I'll tell you that. 467 00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:19,383 (suspense music) 468 00:31:20,504 --> 00:31:21,755 - It's been a perennial question 469 00:31:21,797 --> 00:31:24,591 in the philosophy of science, 470 00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:28,678 if what we're primarily interested in are phenomena 471 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,973 as they can be detected experimentally, 472 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:35,644 how, in fact, 473 00:31:37,437 --> 00:31:41,691 do we come to have knowledge about unobservable entities? 474 00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:44,653 (suspense music) 475 00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:56,039 - I've always had a pull towards the invisible 476 00:31:57,874 --> 00:31:59,376 and the mysterious. 477 00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:04,423 I've sort of naturally gravitated to black holes. 478 00:32:06,675 --> 00:32:10,429 But a black hole is very, very hard to understand 479 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,431 with just the equations. 480 00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:24,818 - If you really wanna know anything at any level of detail, 481 00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:28,655 you're not gonna do it with just pure mathematics, 482 00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:30,157 it's not gonna happen. 483 00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:33,326 You need to simulate it on a computer. 484 00:32:39,541 --> 00:32:41,751 You have what's called an accretion disk 485 00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,504 that's orbiting the black hole. 486 00:32:44,546 --> 00:32:45,589 It's chaotic. 487 00:32:48,758 --> 00:32:52,637 It's ionized gas, it's got magnetic fields, 488 00:32:52,679 --> 00:32:54,931 the whole thing is churning. 489 00:32:56,183 --> 00:32:59,102 The gas gets hot and then it radiates. 490 00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:04,900 That gets a little too complicated 491 00:33:04,941 --> 00:33:09,070 for a theorist to calculate with pencil and paper. 492 00:33:16,161 --> 00:33:20,457 - Simulations really help us make what is invisible, 493 00:33:21,625 --> 00:33:23,293 what is unseen, seen. 494 00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:56,117 (birds chirping) 495 00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:57,869 - [Malcolm] It must be Andy. 496 00:33:57,911 --> 00:33:59,371 - [Sasha] Oh, yeah. 497 00:33:59,412 --> 00:34:01,665 - We have almost incredibly good news. 498 00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:03,208 - What? 499 00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:04,501 (Sasha chuckles) 500 00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:06,211 - But not quite. 501 00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:08,630 There's a missing link somewhere. 502 00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:11,341 If you don't worry about it you get the right answer. 503 00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:13,885 - [Andy] Oh well, I never worry, so. 504 00:34:13,927 --> 00:34:17,180 - Once a year, Stephen Hawking and his friends 505 00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:19,808 take over some house somewhere, 506 00:34:21,226 --> 00:34:23,645 where we can exchange ideas, where we can have fun, 507 00:34:23,687 --> 00:34:25,897 where we can go off into the mountains and have a hike. 508 00:34:25,939 --> 00:34:27,023 Stephen arrived. 509 00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,358 - [Andy] Stephen's here? Great. 510 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,360 - So if you go all the way that way, 511 00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:32,571 you can say hello to him. 512 00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:34,322 (woman laughing) 513 00:34:34,364 --> 00:34:38,535 - Stephen, Sasha, Malcolm and I found a chink in the armor 514 00:34:40,036 --> 00:34:43,290 of uh, more than a chink, a huge gap in the armor 515 00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:45,333 of the information paradox. 516 00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:47,043 - Why don't we use the blackboard in there. 517 00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:48,044 - All right. 518 00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,714 - [Andy] The old story was, 519 00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:53,133 there just wasn't any way that a black hole 520 00:34:53,174 --> 00:34:58,138 could store information, it was just a hole in space. 521 00:34:59,306 --> 00:35:00,890 - What we've discovered is that the horizon 522 00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:03,893 does have some properties that encode information. 523 00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:06,813 Namely the super translation and the super rotation degrees 524 00:35:06,855 --> 00:35:09,399 of freedom, what we now call the soft hair. 525 00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,568 - Okay, I'll put it round. 526 00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:16,281 - The hair is spread around the horizon 527 00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,034 of the black hole. 528 00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:21,620 When you throw something into the black hole 529 00:35:21,661 --> 00:35:23,330 you change its hairdo. 530 00:35:23,371 --> 00:35:25,290 So you start like this, you throw something in, 531 00:35:25,332 --> 00:35:26,791 it goes like that. 532 00:35:28,043 --> 00:35:31,421 We discovered there's a record of what fell 533 00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:33,089 into the black hole. 534 00:35:35,175 --> 00:35:38,762 Some information is definitely transferred. 535 00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:44,643 We don't know yet if all of it is. 536 00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:48,647 - And that's really what we are currently 537 00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:50,357 trying hard to investigate. 538 00:35:50,398 --> 00:35:52,025 It looks like this. 539 00:35:52,067 --> 00:35:53,777 - [Sasha] Yeah, it only contained with two derivatives 540 00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:56,279 in epsilon, so that'll vanish. 541 00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:59,616 We need to see if this soft hair and these soft particles 542 00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:01,785 can encode all the information in a black hole. 543 00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:03,161 - Okay, so we're not worried about that term? 544 00:36:03,203 --> 00:36:04,454 - [Malcolm] No. 545 00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:05,955 - Did you look at that term, too? 546 00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:09,709 - There's a formula by Bekenstein and Hawking 547 00:36:09,751 --> 00:36:13,630 in the early 70s for exactly how many gigabytes 548 00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:20,136 of information can be stored in a black hole. 549 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:24,599 So the very first test, which we have not yet passed, 550 00:36:26,309 --> 00:36:30,939 is counting the information using the soft hair 551 00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:35,193 and showing that it gives exactly the right answer. 552 00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:42,367 - If we can get the central charge to be 12J, 553 00:36:42,409 --> 00:36:44,160 information is not lost. 554 00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,870 Information is conserved, 555 00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:47,497 and that we'll be able to trace this information 556 00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,166 by looking at the horizon. 557 00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:53,002 And we've spent about three months getting zero, 558 00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:54,963 then another three months getting infinity, 559 00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:57,966 and the last few weeks, Malcolm thought he got 12 560 00:36:58,007 --> 00:37:00,510 and now we think that's actually wrong again. 561 00:37:00,552 --> 00:37:02,929 As of today, we have 12, 562 00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:04,931 but with a dubious step. 563 00:37:06,391 --> 00:37:08,852 - [Andy] Are you saying that that integration by parts 564 00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:12,439 was done to get this last formula? 565 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,232 - I have a feeling. 566 00:37:14,274 --> 00:37:16,192 - Yeah, because there's no terms 567 00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,987 with two derivatives on zeta. 568 00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:20,155 - Well, the whole point was to get rid 569 00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:23,366 of two derivative terms on zeta. 570 00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:26,703 - [Andy] But maybe they're really there. 571 00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:31,374 Let's see, uh, okay. 572 00:37:32,876 --> 00:37:37,088 So I think we need to think a little more about this. 573 00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:42,051 Oh, Stephen's here, saved 574 00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:43,553 (group laughing) 575 00:37:43,595 --> 00:37:44,929 Hello, Stephen? 576 00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:45,930 - [Sasha] Hi, Stephen. 577 00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:47,682 - [Malcolm] Hello, Stephen. 578 00:37:47,724 --> 00:37:50,477 - [Andy] Why don't we give Stephen the executive summary. 579 00:37:50,518 --> 00:37:52,395 - Assuming everything is right? 580 00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:53,938 - [Sasha] To be confirmed I think. 581 00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:57,484 - No, no, you never assume everything is right. 582 00:37:57,525 --> 00:37:58,985 - [Sasha] To be checked, everything to be checked. 583 00:37:59,027 --> 00:38:00,445 - [Malcolm] Yeah, everything to be checked. 584 00:38:00,487 --> 00:38:02,739 - You know, it's the usual roller coaster, 585 00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:04,574 a few minutes ago we were very excited 586 00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:08,328 because the central term came out on the nose 587 00:38:09,579 --> 00:38:13,208 exactly what it needs to be to get the area law, 588 00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:19,756 then we realized we might have missed some terms. 589 00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:28,181 Something good seems to be happening. 590 00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:31,267 But we have our work cut out. 591 00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:34,270 (crickets chirping) 592 00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:41,903 - [Malcolm] There's something else we might have forgotten. 593 00:38:41,945 --> 00:38:43,571 - [Andy] What? 594 00:38:43,613 --> 00:38:46,783 - [Malcolm] There was a question of an F plus minus term? 595 00:38:46,825 --> 00:38:48,910 - [Andy] Yeah, I've been bothered by that. 596 00:38:48,952 --> 00:38:51,412 - [Malcolm] So, it could be the F plus minus term 597 00:38:51,454 --> 00:38:53,122 takes us away. 598 00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:56,334 - [Andy] Well, what are we doing about that, because-- 599 00:38:56,376 --> 00:38:58,586 - [Sasha] Well I thought I didn't produce anything 600 00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:02,257 with three derivatives of epsilon but-- 601 00:39:02,298 --> 00:39:05,009 - [Malcolm] We better check that. 602 00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:09,138 - [Andy] There's a number we're after. 603 00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:11,975 12 times the angular momentum. 604 00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:13,268 - [Sasha] So I think that is-- 605 00:39:13,309 --> 00:39:14,769 - Or divergence of-- 606 00:39:14,811 --> 00:39:16,437 - It's so hard to get the number. 607 00:39:16,479 --> 00:39:19,107 It's really hard to get the number. 608 00:39:19,148 --> 00:39:21,150 If you do get the number. 609 00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:23,987 - [Malcolm] Up here. 610 00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:25,530 - [Andy] That will tell you that black holes 611 00:39:25,572 --> 00:39:28,867 have the capacity to store all the information 612 00:39:29,784 --> 00:39:31,160 that might have been lost. 613 00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:33,454 I think there's a path in there somewhere. 614 00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:37,041 A giant step towards solving the information paradox. 615 00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:38,751 - And Malcolm got from that to this 616 00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:40,879 by integrating by parts, 617 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,505 illegally. - [Andy] Yes. 618 00:39:42,547 --> 00:39:46,009 - [Sasha] But, by using divergence of a three-form-- 619 00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:47,302 - [Andy] You can do the same thing. 620 00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:48,678 - You can get to this exact equation 621 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,388 and you always have room for-- 622 00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:52,515 - [Stephen] How many conformal killing vectors 623 00:39:52,557 --> 00:39:54,809 on the two sphere? 624 00:39:54,851 --> 00:39:55,894 - [Andy] Three. 625 00:39:55,935 --> 00:39:57,353 - [Stephen] An infinite number. 626 00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:58,187 - Six! 627 00:39:59,814 --> 00:40:02,108 - Stephen is a very interesting person to work with 628 00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:04,652 because, I guess he's a man of few words, 629 00:40:04,694 --> 00:40:07,113 so everything he says is really important. 630 00:40:07,155 --> 00:40:11,034 - Globally well-defined, strict killing vectors, 631 00:40:11,075 --> 00:40:15,288 there are three of them. Globally well-defined-- 632 00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:17,498 - He'll ask something which might at first sight 633 00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:19,918 seem to be he's just clarifying something, 634 00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:21,920 and actually it turns out to be 635 00:40:21,961 --> 00:40:23,755 he's got a slightly different idea 636 00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:28,468 or he just gives a bit of his insight or intuition. 637 00:40:28,509 --> 00:40:31,554 Which might then sort of confuse everybody 638 00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,723 and then we realize actually it's really important. 639 00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:35,058 - So we've been, 640 00:40:36,643 --> 00:40:38,853 we were religiously abiding by your instructions 641 00:40:38,895 --> 00:40:40,897 to forget about infinity. 642 00:40:44,359 --> 00:40:47,236 I was laying some groundwork first, 643 00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:50,073 sort of circling the mountain, 644 00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:53,576 trying to figure out which was the best route to the top. 645 00:40:53,618 --> 00:40:58,039 And Stephen was like, okay, we're taking this one now. 646 00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:02,335 He's very daring. 647 00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:07,215 He doesn't wanna spend a lot of time 648 00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:11,302 exploring all the subcases and different possibilities. 649 00:41:11,344 --> 00:41:14,764 He wants to go for the jugular. 650 00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:17,350 - Would diffeomorphism give all the entropy? 651 00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:21,145 - Which diffeomorphisms give you the entropy? 652 00:41:21,187 --> 00:41:23,439 - Ah, so the question is what are the diffeomorphisms-- 653 00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,942 This problem is probably too hard to do on your own, 654 00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:29,070 but different people think about things in different ways 655 00:41:29,112 --> 00:41:33,074 and well, each brings their own little bit of it 656 00:41:33,116 --> 00:41:34,659 to the table. 657 00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:38,287 - It's basically E to the i-n-phi around the... 658 00:41:39,414 --> 00:41:40,665 it's basically--- 659 00:41:40,707 --> 00:41:42,792 - E to the i-n-phi but somehow-- 660 00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,294 - I tend to race to the end 661 00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:47,505 and then try to fill in the spaces. 662 00:41:47,547 --> 00:41:49,132 - [Producer] Really? 663 00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,968 - Which is a methodology which is particularly prone 664 00:41:52,010 --> 00:41:54,637 to making errors because you've already decided 665 00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,764 what answer you want. 666 00:41:56,806 --> 00:41:58,516 (birds chirping) 667 00:41:58,558 --> 00:42:01,894 Whereas Malcolm would be more likely to just 668 00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:05,398 start from the beginning and systematically 669 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,359 work through it, which has the other problem 670 00:42:08,401 --> 00:42:10,111 that if you're not heading in the right direction, 671 00:42:10,153 --> 00:42:12,488 you'll never get there. 672 00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:16,743 So I think we compliment each other well. 673 00:42:16,784 --> 00:42:19,746 Sasha has been a fantastic addition. 674 00:42:20,872 --> 00:42:24,333 She started as Malcolm's graduate student, 675 00:42:25,835 --> 00:42:30,339 then she went from zero to 60 in a rather spectacular way. 676 00:42:33,593 --> 00:42:35,303 - We had it once and it went away 677 00:42:35,344 --> 00:42:37,972 and we got it again about 10 days ago 678 00:42:38,014 --> 00:42:40,058 but it's gone away again. 679 00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:45,897 We're on the right track. 680 00:42:45,938 --> 00:42:48,900 But it's turning out to be monstrously complicated. 681 00:42:48,941 --> 00:42:49,776 - I think let's go this way. 682 00:42:49,817 --> 00:42:51,027 - I'll go that way. 683 00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:52,612 We should've brought a helicopter. 684 00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:54,363 Well do you wanna go down that way? 685 00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:55,281 - [Andy] This one, you mean? 686 00:42:55,323 --> 00:42:56,532 - [Malcolm] No. 687 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:15,676 - This was a really convoluted international shipment 688 00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:18,012 because of what went on in Chile. 689 00:43:18,054 --> 00:43:19,263 - You know this is important data, right? 690 00:43:19,305 --> 00:43:20,681 - [Michael] Yes. 691 00:43:20,723 --> 00:43:22,100 - I don't like to hear the word convoluted 692 00:43:22,141 --> 00:43:25,436 in the same sentence as your data. 693 00:43:25,478 --> 00:43:27,980 The implement of destruction. 694 00:43:28,022 --> 00:43:30,566 This is freshly delivered data. 695 00:43:33,402 --> 00:43:35,238 All the way from Chile. 696 00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:38,074 Recorder three, slot two, set two. 697 00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:39,909 - Nicely labeled. 698 00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:40,743 - Vincent? 699 00:43:40,785 --> 00:43:41,786 - Mm-hmm. 700 00:43:41,828 --> 00:43:43,955 - Photons from Chile, frozen. 701 00:43:46,791 --> 00:43:50,086 - When we get the data from these different telescopes, 702 00:43:50,128 --> 00:43:52,588 the amount of data is immense. 703 00:43:54,006 --> 00:43:56,259 - We really have to measure every single wave, 704 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,094 every single trough and crest 705 00:43:58,136 --> 00:44:01,889 of the waves as they come to the telescope. 706 00:44:01,931 --> 00:44:04,600 - We have to record this faithfully 707 00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:07,270 and then match up each wave front 708 00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:10,106 with the corresponding one from another telescope 709 00:44:10,148 --> 00:44:11,566 halfway across the earth. 710 00:44:11,607 --> 00:44:14,193 - Okay, the latest addition from ALMA. 711 00:44:14,235 --> 00:44:15,945 What else do we have here? 712 00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:18,614 - We are generating about one and a half petabytes of data 713 00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:20,908 per night of observation. 714 00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:21,909 - Okay. 715 00:44:21,951 --> 00:44:23,703 - Yeah, once we cleared-- 716 00:44:23,744 --> 00:44:27,582 - By far the largest amount of data per night of observing 717 00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:31,169 than any physics experiment in the history of science. 718 00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,087 - I wanna see... 719 00:44:33,129 --> 00:44:36,048 Okay, so here's a whole ALMA set. 720 00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:38,259 We bring all the data back, 721 00:44:38,301 --> 00:44:41,053 all these disk drives to a super computer, 722 00:44:41,095 --> 00:44:44,974 one is at the MIT Haystack Observatory, 723 00:44:45,016 --> 00:44:47,059 and the other is at the Max Planck Institute 724 00:44:47,101 --> 00:44:49,312 for Radio Astronomy in Bonn, Germany. 725 00:44:49,353 --> 00:44:51,272 Then between these two sites, 726 00:44:51,314 --> 00:44:53,941 we process and handle all of the data. 727 00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:56,485 This is how you make an earth-size telescope. 728 00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:58,654 It's like a map of the entire globe. 729 00:44:58,696 --> 00:45:02,909 So up here we have modules that were recorded in Mexico. 730 00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:06,120 Uh, these are also from Mexico, this is from Arizona. 731 00:45:06,162 --> 00:45:08,915 Uh, this is from Spain over here. 732 00:45:08,956 --> 00:45:11,500 Uh, this is from Hawaii. 733 00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:14,253 We cannot do any of the processing from the South Pole. 734 00:45:14,295 --> 00:45:17,006 The South Pole station is closed now. 735 00:45:17,048 --> 00:45:20,009 Nothing can land or take off. 736 00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:24,096 All the data is in the deep freeze until October. 737 00:45:25,806 --> 00:45:28,017 This is where all the data come together 738 00:45:28,059 --> 00:45:30,895 and we get the final data products. 739 00:45:30,937 --> 00:45:32,605 So, it's happening. 740 00:45:32,647 --> 00:45:35,107 It's hard to believe after so long, but it's happening. 741 00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:37,568 - Drop it for now and let's try, 742 00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:40,196 let's just put the baseline in. 743 00:45:42,198 --> 00:45:44,825 - Once you correct the manual phase cals, 744 00:45:44,867 --> 00:45:49,830 then this will clean up and even the signal to noise ratio 745 00:45:50,998 --> 00:45:52,750 will go up and the amplitude will go up. 746 00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:54,710 That is really amazing. 747 00:45:55,878 --> 00:45:58,297 We're getting the kind of sensitivities 748 00:45:58,339 --> 00:46:01,175 and the resolution that we have been after 749 00:46:01,217 --> 00:46:02,718 for about a decade. 750 00:46:05,263 --> 00:46:06,764 For me, personally, 751 00:46:08,432 --> 00:46:11,227 this is a moment of great anxiety. 752 00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:17,942 We've worked for a long time for this result. 753 00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:21,279 And we don't know even now what we have. 754 00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:33,249 (soft upbeat music) 755 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,742 - Black holes are out of reach. 756 00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:20,249 We do not know if the equations we're using 757 00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:23,419 actually describes a black hole. 758 00:49:23,461 --> 00:49:26,922 That's what we cannot directly test, 759 00:49:26,964 --> 00:49:29,258 that's the dilemma we're in. 760 00:49:33,304 --> 00:49:34,972 In my laboratory, 761 00:49:35,014 --> 00:49:39,810 I have a model that mimics certain features of black holes. 762 00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:42,521 Of course it is not a real black hole, 763 00:49:42,563 --> 00:49:44,940 it would be pretty dangerous. 764 00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:52,072 What we really have is a gigantic pool of water. 765 00:49:52,114 --> 00:49:56,494 You get this nice vortex forming right in the center. 766 00:49:57,953 --> 00:50:00,498 For small fluctuations on the surface 767 00:50:00,539 --> 00:50:04,001 it should look like a rotating black hole. 768 00:50:11,008 --> 00:50:14,553 There is physics associated to the horizon, 769 00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:19,892 light bending, Hawking radiation, superradiance. 770 00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:25,439 And these are the kinds of effects we can simulate. 771 00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:29,944 All the effects that happen outside the event horizon. 772 00:50:32,071 --> 00:50:33,864 And at the end you see an effect 773 00:50:33,906 --> 00:50:35,950 which has been predicted for many years 774 00:50:35,991 --> 00:50:39,119 without any experimental confirmation. 775 00:50:40,704 --> 00:50:42,623 That's real physics. 776 00:50:42,665 --> 00:50:44,333 It has been detected. 777 00:50:49,088 --> 00:50:53,175 There is a limit to what we know about black hole now, 778 00:50:53,217 --> 00:50:55,261 but I'm a scientist, 779 00:50:55,302 --> 00:50:58,681 this is the best situation you can be in. 780 00:51:01,642 --> 00:51:04,770 We have this universe in a Petri dish. 781 00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:09,900 And it's holding fantastic new insights 782 00:51:09,942 --> 00:51:11,986 waiting to be discovered. 783 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:29,253 - So zeta minus zeta-tilda-Y 784 00:51:29,295 --> 00:51:32,298 and this contains an epsilon double prime, 785 00:51:32,339 --> 00:51:34,633 that contains an epsilon prime. 786 00:51:34,675 --> 00:51:36,385 - [Andy] So that will go like one over W plus. 787 00:51:36,427 --> 00:51:38,721 - This goes one over W plus, 788 00:51:41,265 --> 00:51:44,226 which means you got to compute this thing to W plus, 789 00:51:44,268 --> 00:51:46,645 you're sure there's not something else? 790 00:51:46,687 --> 00:51:48,063 - No it doesn't. 791 00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:49,648 No, it doesn't because it's only the one 792 00:51:49,690 --> 00:51:52,735 over W plus term that can contribute. 793 00:51:55,279 --> 00:51:56,280 - [Malcolm] Right. 794 00:51:56,322 --> 00:51:57,990 We need that one over W plus. 795 00:51:58,032 --> 00:52:00,075 - [Malcolm] So you have to compute this to order W plus. 796 00:52:00,117 --> 00:52:01,493 - No. 797 00:52:01,535 --> 00:52:03,203 - [Sasha] No, 'cause you want one over W plus 798 00:52:03,245 --> 00:52:04,413 in the integrand? 799 00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:05,748 - [Malcolm] Oh right, yes. 800 00:52:05,789 --> 00:52:07,750 - Because the range of W plus is zero. 801 00:52:07,791 --> 00:52:12,338 So if we don't have one over W plus there, we get zero. 802 00:52:14,381 --> 00:52:16,258 We didn't understand this in Brinsop. 803 00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,303 -I guess we did not understand that. 804 00:52:22,097 --> 00:52:25,017 We thought at Brinsop that things were relatively simple, 805 00:52:25,059 --> 00:52:27,061 we didn't have to think about so much, 806 00:52:27,102 --> 00:52:29,980 But since then, we've discovered all kinds of other things 807 00:52:30,022 --> 00:52:32,566 which do contribute and complicate matters. 808 00:52:32,608 --> 00:52:36,862 - In Brinsop, we thought we could do it by hand. 809 00:52:36,904 --> 00:52:38,530 You know, ten pages. 810 00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:45,371 Turns out to be among the most 811 00:52:47,164 --> 00:52:51,502 long calculations that any of us has done. 812 00:52:51,543 --> 00:52:54,463 - [Malcolm] That's actually spot on. 813 00:52:57,633 --> 00:52:59,343 - [Sasha] 1050 terms. 814 00:52:59,385 --> 00:53:00,678 - 1050 terms? 815 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,472 You can't do, you cannot add 1050 terms 816 00:53:05,307 --> 00:53:07,810 without making a single mistake. 817 00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:09,144 Or I can't. 818 00:53:09,186 --> 00:53:10,896 I think that's even beyond Malcolm. 819 00:53:10,938 --> 00:53:13,232 - [Malcolm] I think I can do about half of that but-- 820 00:53:13,273 --> 00:53:15,359 (Andy laughing) 821 00:53:15,401 --> 00:53:16,819 - So a month ago, 822 00:53:18,237 --> 00:53:22,157 we realized we were gonna have to use computers. 823 00:53:23,742 --> 00:53:27,329 Essentially adding up many thousands of terms. 824 00:53:27,371 --> 00:53:30,165 If they all add up to exactly 12J, 825 00:53:32,167 --> 00:53:35,170 it will mean the hair that's on the black hole 826 00:53:35,212 --> 00:53:39,675 is enough to completely reconstruct how it was made. 827 00:53:39,717 --> 00:53:43,178 - That's a long way towards solving the information paradox. 828 00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:45,931 - We haven't seen that happening so far. 829 00:53:45,973 --> 00:53:47,975 Which either means that we, 830 00:53:48,016 --> 00:53:50,310 there's a mistake in our computer program, 831 00:53:50,352 --> 00:53:52,020 a mistake in our input, 832 00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:56,567 or a mistake in our conceptual analysis of the problem. 833 00:53:56,608 --> 00:54:00,612 And we've been up and down in our level of optimism. 834 00:54:00,654 --> 00:54:02,364 - We must believe that actually, 835 00:54:02,406 --> 00:54:05,534 it's gonna work out properly for the very simple reason 836 00:54:05,576 --> 00:54:07,703 that we would not be putting this much effort into it 837 00:54:07,745 --> 00:54:09,872 if we didn't believe that. 838 00:54:11,415 --> 00:54:12,708 We are putting the effort in. 839 00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:14,501 - We are putting the effort in, yeah. 840 00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:19,089 - And the reason we're doing that is because we believe it. 841 00:54:19,131 --> 00:54:23,469 If we didn't believe it we probably would have-- 842 00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:24,553 - [Sasha] Given up months ago. 843 00:54:24,595 --> 00:54:27,306 - Been a bit more discouraged. 844 00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:28,724 - I'm optimistic. 845 00:54:30,934 --> 00:54:34,146 But I think we're missing something quite, 846 00:54:34,188 --> 00:54:37,357 we're missing a term or something. 847 00:54:37,399 --> 00:54:38,358 - [Malcolm] Or an idea. 848 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,902 - Or an idea or something. 849 00:54:39,943 --> 00:54:43,405 We haven't just not added things up correctly. 850 00:54:45,616 --> 00:54:50,579 - The information paradox says that because of black holes, 851 00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:55,793 the universe can't be described exactly by physical laws. 852 00:55:00,631 --> 00:55:03,175 I'm putting my money on an idea that 853 00:55:03,217 --> 00:55:05,761 there are physical laws and that we can figure out 854 00:55:05,803 --> 00:55:06,929 what they are. 855 00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:10,974 But it's not over yet. 856 00:55:18,565 --> 00:55:21,360 (suspense music) 857 00:55:24,112 --> 00:55:27,574 - I think it is interesting when observations 858 00:55:27,616 --> 00:55:32,496 don't conform to our standard picture of how things behave. 859 00:55:33,789 --> 00:55:36,375 And that's when people start to look 860 00:55:36,416 --> 00:55:38,794 for more exotic explanations. 861 00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:45,509 And that's what happened with the black hole story. 862 00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:49,972 Black holes were initially very 863 00:55:50,013 --> 00:55:54,351 esoteric, mathematical, very hard to accept, 864 00:55:54,393 --> 00:55:57,145 and yet increasingly over time, 865 00:55:57,187 --> 00:56:01,692 there were observations that didn't make sense. 866 00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:06,446 Black holes were the best explanation for what was observed. 867 00:56:06,488 --> 00:56:08,156 What was still quite controversial, 868 00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:09,783 were there super massive black holes? 869 00:56:09,825 --> 00:56:11,660 The ones that were a million to a billion times 870 00:56:11,702 --> 00:56:13,328 the mass of the sun. 871 00:56:15,914 --> 00:56:18,292 Maybe all galaxies harbor super massive black holes 872 00:56:18,333 --> 00:56:19,793 at their cores. 873 00:56:19,835 --> 00:56:21,461 Even our own galaxy. 874 00:56:22,546 --> 00:56:25,215 That was pretty controversial, 875 00:56:25,257 --> 00:56:27,342 and that is certainly the idea 876 00:56:27,384 --> 00:56:29,845 that I got very interested in. 877 00:56:31,889 --> 00:56:34,266 And I had this technique that I was working on, 878 00:56:34,308 --> 00:56:36,518 my group and then the group in Germany, 879 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,688 that in principle could figure it out. 880 00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:44,192 And this was just as the Keck Observatory 881 00:56:44,234 --> 00:56:46,278 was opening up in Hawaii. 882 00:56:48,906 --> 00:56:51,533 It's kind of amazing that a very big telescope 883 00:56:51,575 --> 00:56:55,996 let us monkey around with the instrumentation at all. 884 00:56:57,164 --> 00:56:58,790 And yet it worked. 885 00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:00,250 All of a sudden you could see the center of the galaxy, 886 00:57:00,292 --> 00:57:03,545 these stars at the center of the galaxy. 887 00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:07,299 And if there's a black hole there 888 00:57:07,341 --> 00:57:09,051 that has a few million times the mass of sun, 889 00:57:09,092 --> 00:57:13,847 these things are gonna move really, really fast. 890 00:57:13,889 --> 00:57:15,974 '95 was our first measurement, 891 00:57:16,016 --> 00:57:18,477 '96 we saw a second picture 892 00:57:18,518 --> 00:57:20,062 and oh my goodness! 893 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,609 Those things were absolutely not in the same place. 894 00:57:25,651 --> 00:57:27,778 These things were hauling! 895 00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:31,698 '98, '99, it was already clear 896 00:57:31,740 --> 00:57:36,703 that the ones that were really close were starting to curve. 897 00:57:38,163 --> 00:57:39,665 The curvature gives you a direction to the black hole. 898 00:57:39,706 --> 00:57:41,291 And we had three stars that were curving, 899 00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:44,211 so it was like three arrows 900 00:57:44,252 --> 00:57:47,798 and they all intersected at the same place. 901 00:57:51,301 --> 00:57:53,762 You need something very massive 902 00:57:53,804 --> 00:57:57,182 to drive that kind of short-period orbit. 903 00:58:01,728 --> 00:58:06,024 It's hard to conceive of anything else at its center 904 00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:09,945 other than a super massive black hole. 905 00:58:13,448 --> 00:58:15,075 We're on our way in. 906 00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:20,247 You can just taste it. 907 00:58:32,217 --> 00:58:33,760 - No, I think, Kazu told me-- 908 00:58:33,802 --> 00:58:35,262 - [Michael] 345 909 00:58:35,303 --> 00:58:37,180 - Yeah, but Kazu told me to look at 120 yesterday 910 00:58:37,222 --> 00:58:38,682 and that's why that we were looking at that one. 911 00:58:38,724 --> 00:58:40,767 - So this is 3C3457 912 00:58:40,809 --> 00:58:42,310 - [Katie] Yeah. - Okay. 913 00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:44,104 - The fact that we're aiming so high with the EHT 914 00:58:44,146 --> 00:58:46,815 to see something you know no one's ever seen before means 915 00:58:46,857 --> 00:58:49,943 we have to develop an entirely new set of tools. 916 00:58:49,985 --> 00:58:52,612 It's a lot easier to start with a big field of view. 917 00:58:52,654 --> 00:58:55,657 We have to reconstruct an image with sufficient fidelity 918 00:58:55,699 --> 00:58:57,409 that we can trust what we're seeing. 919 00:58:57,451 --> 00:58:59,119 So small and then you get some weird structuring on there. 920 00:58:59,161 --> 00:59:01,663 - Yeah, anyway, I don't have it loaded on linear scale 921 00:59:01,705 --> 00:59:03,123 with them all in the same-- 922 00:59:03,165 --> 00:59:05,250 When we take a picture on our camera, right? 923 00:59:05,292 --> 00:59:09,212 You believe that picture is exactly reality, right? 924 00:59:09,254 --> 00:59:11,339 You actually saw that with your own eyes 925 00:59:11,381 --> 00:59:13,300 and you can see, oh, okay, that matches. 926 00:59:13,341 --> 00:59:15,510 When we take a picture of a black hole, 927 00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:16,845 with the Event Horizon Telescope, 928 00:59:16,887 --> 00:59:18,305 we don't get to see that, 929 00:59:18,346 --> 00:59:20,515 we don't know if the picture we generate 930 00:59:20,557 --> 00:59:23,268 is actually what the black hole looks like. 931 00:59:23,310 --> 00:59:26,646 How do we evaluate what's the true image? 932 00:59:26,688 --> 00:59:28,106 - So which is right? 933 00:59:28,148 --> 00:59:29,608 What I'm seeing is in general. 934 00:59:29,649 --> 00:59:31,359 Which is right? 935 00:59:31,401 --> 00:59:33,236 You know, people publish-- 936 00:59:33,278 --> 00:59:35,655 - One way we approach the problem is by separating the teams 937 00:59:35,697 --> 00:59:39,201 into different groups that can't talk to each other. 938 00:59:39,242 --> 00:59:42,037 We generate data from lots of different kinds of images, 939 00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:43,914 realistic data like we would get 940 00:59:43,955 --> 00:59:45,624 from the Event Horizon Telescope. 941 00:59:45,665 --> 00:59:48,960 Then release to the community but without the true image 942 00:59:49,002 --> 00:59:50,712 and we say, do your best job, 943 00:59:50,754 --> 00:59:53,048 get your best image from this data. 944 00:59:53,090 --> 00:59:55,634 - What happens in Team One room 945 00:59:55,675 --> 00:59:57,969 stays in Team One room, right? 946 00:59:58,011 --> 01:00:00,055 - If I see another team's image, 947 01:00:00,097 --> 01:00:03,308 I might start trying to push my imaging algorithms, 948 01:00:03,350 --> 01:00:04,976 even subconsciously, 949 01:00:05,018 --> 01:00:06,603 in a direction that would favor that kind of image. 950 01:00:06,645 --> 01:00:09,397 I mean, look at these amplitude error bars. (laughs) 951 01:00:09,439 --> 01:00:11,983 We wanna have many rounds of imaging 952 01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:15,153 and refining that imaging process 953 01:00:15,195 --> 01:00:17,906 before we actually compare the images. 954 01:00:17,948 --> 01:00:21,076 - You look at all these different things with the same data, 955 01:00:21,118 --> 01:00:22,744 it's a cage match-- 956 01:00:22,786 --> 01:00:24,621 - And we should be able to cross-compare 957 01:00:24,663 --> 01:00:26,748 the different algorithms between the teams. 958 01:00:26,790 --> 01:00:28,959 And if we start getting convergence on those, 959 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,086 then we'll know that we're in a good position 960 01:00:31,128 --> 01:00:33,213 to do the same for Sag-A# and M87 961 01:00:33,255 --> 01:00:35,841 - And here is low closure amplitude. 962 01:00:35,882 --> 01:00:37,968 There's a really big difference. 963 01:00:38,009 --> 01:00:39,553 - [Sarah] This is three days apart? 964 01:00:39,594 --> 01:00:42,430 - Yeah, but the source has not changed that much, 965 01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:44,558 and you cannot change the speed of light. 966 01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:46,601 - But you know, orange and blue, 967 01:00:46,643 --> 01:00:50,313 that's exactly same day, exactly same time. 968 01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:51,773 - [Man] Yeah. 969 01:00:51,815 --> 01:00:55,861 - In Team Two, I would say we had a hard time. 970 01:00:55,902 --> 01:00:59,322 My feeling is that data are not yet ready, 971 01:01:00,574 --> 01:01:03,243 not yet well-calibrated 972 01:01:03,285 --> 01:01:04,786 for imaging. 973 01:01:04,828 --> 01:01:07,622 So there is still work to be done. 974 01:01:15,714 --> 01:01:18,175 - I just happened to be looking at the Guardian website 975 01:01:18,216 --> 01:01:22,846 at around midnight on the evening of the 13th, 976 01:01:22,888 --> 01:01:24,681 and they announced it. 977 01:01:25,891 --> 01:01:27,184 And that was it. 978 01:01:29,311 --> 01:01:33,023 - We had been talking about going to see him. 979 01:01:34,274 --> 01:01:37,319 Because we were worried and because we knew 980 01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,363 that the work would lift his spirits. 981 01:01:42,949 --> 01:01:46,077 - We kept saying as soon as we get somewhere, 982 01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:47,829 we're flying straight back to the U.K. 983 01:01:47,871 --> 01:01:51,333 to talk to him about it and discuss the next step with him. 984 01:01:51,374 --> 01:01:52,876 It would have made him so happy to realize 985 01:01:52,918 --> 01:01:56,838 that we'd got somewhere with this project. 986 01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:01,009 And unfortunately we just didn't get there in time. 987 01:02:02,219 --> 01:02:03,845 - [Malcolm] We all think in different ways. 988 01:02:03,887 --> 01:02:05,555 - [Andy] Yeah. 989 01:02:05,597 --> 01:02:08,642 - And he has his own unique way of thinking about things 990 01:02:08,683 --> 01:02:11,937 and we're not gonna be allowed to have access 991 01:02:11,978 --> 01:02:15,273 to his mind anymore, that's a huge loss. 992 01:02:16,483 --> 01:02:19,277 - There's a special kind of friendship 993 01:02:19,319 --> 01:02:23,949 that grows out of scientific collaboration and discovery 994 01:02:25,158 --> 01:02:28,286 that's in my experience like no other. 995 01:02:30,664 --> 01:02:32,540 And to have a you know, 996 01:02:36,711 --> 01:02:40,590 scientific, a productive scientific interaction 997 01:02:42,926 --> 01:02:45,512 with somebody over many decades 998 01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:49,224 and then lose them, 999 01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:51,309 is very sad. 1000 01:02:52,978 --> 01:02:56,398 It's sad in a different way than losing a relative 1001 01:02:56,439 --> 01:02:57,274 but it's... 1002 01:03:02,612 --> 01:03:06,908 it's a special thing and it's very sad to lose that. 1003 01:03:11,538 --> 01:03:14,082 (somber music) 1004 01:03:45,155 --> 01:03:47,532 - You can imagine if you were floating 1005 01:03:47,574 --> 01:03:50,452 near two black holes that collided. 1006 01:03:51,911 --> 01:03:55,832 As they orbit, space time begins to ring in response. 1007 01:03:57,167 --> 01:03:59,586 They're like mallets on a drum. 1008 01:03:59,627 --> 01:04:02,005 The drum is space time itself. 1009 01:04:02,047 --> 01:04:03,506 It begins to ring. 1010 01:04:04,883 --> 01:04:09,346 Gravitational waves, squeezing and stretching space. 1011 01:04:09,387 --> 01:04:13,600 In principle, they would pluck your ear drum, 1012 01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:17,645 you would hear them even though it's empty space. 1013 01:04:22,484 --> 01:04:25,445 Gravitational waves are actually like a sound 1014 01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:27,781 in the medium of space time. 1015 01:04:33,953 --> 01:04:37,582 And that was the greatest discovery of 2015. 1016 01:04:38,792 --> 01:04:41,294 The experiment LIGO recorded the collision 1017 01:04:41,336 --> 01:04:44,172 of two completely dark black holes. 1018 01:04:48,134 --> 01:04:52,555 The final 1/5 of a second before the black holes merged 1019 01:04:52,597 --> 01:04:55,433 and went quiet as a bigger black hole. 1020 01:04:55,475 --> 01:04:57,102 And that's stunning. 1021 01:04:57,143 --> 01:04:59,979 The only evidence we've had for black holes before then 1022 01:05:00,021 --> 01:05:02,690 was what they do to their environment. 1023 01:05:02,732 --> 01:05:04,025 This felt direct. 1024 01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:06,861 The first completely direct evidence 1025 01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:09,364 of not only the existence of black holes, 1026 01:05:09,406 --> 01:05:12,700 but the existence of a pair of black holes. 1027 01:05:12,742 --> 01:05:16,329 This signal comes after traveling over a billion years, 1028 01:05:16,371 --> 01:05:17,997 and they record it. 1029 01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:21,501 Just a spectacular, spectacular discovery. 1030 01:05:23,336 --> 01:05:25,839 My work very much was about theoretically 1031 01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,465 how black holes collide, 1032 01:05:27,507 --> 01:05:29,551 what it would sound like, simulating those sounds, 1033 01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:33,888 and understanding the dynamics of black hole orbits. 1034 01:05:37,434 --> 01:05:38,935 Gravitational waves are so quiet 1035 01:05:38,977 --> 01:05:42,313 by the time that they reach the earth. 1036 01:05:42,355 --> 01:05:46,484 The experiments only pick up the final few orbits. 1037 01:05:49,237 --> 01:05:51,990 To dig deeper and hear the approach, 1038 01:05:52,031 --> 01:05:54,033 my group has been doing approximations 1039 01:05:54,075 --> 01:05:56,453 of the final several minutes. 1040 01:05:57,787 --> 01:06:00,039 Listening to the longer run-up, 1041 01:06:00,081 --> 01:06:01,416 we can tell if the black holes 1042 01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:03,418 had a more interesting dynamic, 1043 01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:06,421 if it was a more complicated motion. 1044 01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:09,716 So in this case not only are the black holes 1045 01:06:09,757 --> 01:06:11,176 different masses, 1046 01:06:11,217 --> 01:06:13,928 not only are they on a more complicated orbit, 1047 01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:16,097 but they're also spinning. 1048 01:06:19,476 --> 01:06:22,437 The system begins to rotate in space 1049 01:06:24,647 --> 01:06:27,192 and you can hear it get quieter 1050 01:06:27,233 --> 01:06:29,444 as the gravitational waves are beamed away from you, 1051 01:06:29,486 --> 01:06:32,780 and louder as they're beamed to you. 1052 01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:35,700 And so these are all details we can extract 1053 01:06:35,742 --> 01:06:40,497 from the gravitational waves' sound just by listening. 1054 01:06:40,538 --> 01:06:42,832 And then they get louder, faster, 1055 01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:45,251 right before they merge. 1056 01:06:45,293 --> 01:06:49,422 And then it goes quiet as one big black hole. 1057 01:06:49,464 --> 01:06:51,341 There is a human pleasure 1058 01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:54,677 in being able to experience, viscerally, 1059 01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:58,014 a recording like that. 1060 01:06:58,056 --> 01:07:02,435 In some sense, making black holes more real. 1061 01:07:02,477 --> 01:07:05,688 What a remarkable time to be alive 1062 01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:09,067 to actually be on that cusp of not knowing, 1063 01:07:09,108 --> 01:07:10,818 and then discovering. 1064 01:07:19,953 --> 01:07:20,745 - Hmm. 1065 01:07:27,377 --> 01:07:30,338 All right guys, we're gonna release the data. 1066 01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:31,422 - [Lady] Whoo! 1067 01:07:31,464 --> 01:07:33,925 - Big moment, let's do it then. 1068 01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:35,718 Okay, I'm including everybody 1069 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,097 in the entire collaboration on this note. 1070 01:07:39,138 --> 01:07:42,016 - The end goal is to have this snapshot of reality, 1071 01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:44,936 how a black hole really looks. 1072 01:07:44,978 --> 01:07:46,521 Black holes at the center of galaxies 1073 01:07:46,563 --> 01:07:49,190 are bathed in this hot glowing plasma, 1074 01:07:49,232 --> 01:07:51,568 and so there's light coming from behind the black hole 1075 01:07:51,609 --> 01:07:54,404 and in front of it and every which way. 1076 01:07:54,445 --> 01:07:56,114 They curve their space time so much 1077 01:07:56,155 --> 01:07:58,533 that even light from behind the black hole 1078 01:07:58,575 --> 01:08:02,287 can be bent around them to reach the observer. 1079 01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:07,750 You can imagine some of the photons would be far enough away 1080 01:08:07,792 --> 01:08:09,210 they'd just come to you. 1081 01:08:09,252 --> 01:08:11,379 Some of them would be close to the horizon 1082 01:08:11,421 --> 01:08:13,715 and they get bent inward. 1083 01:08:13,756 --> 01:08:15,091 And some of them would be too close 1084 01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:18,720 and they'd fall into the black hole. 1085 01:08:18,761 --> 01:08:21,723 And so the shadow of the black hole is this circular area 1086 01:08:21,764 --> 01:08:23,349 of diminished brightness 1087 01:08:23,391 --> 01:08:26,060 with this bright ring around it. 1088 01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:29,063 It's really a special thing that there's such a concrete 1089 01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:31,566 prediction for something that no one's ever seen. 1090 01:08:31,608 --> 01:08:33,067 - [Katie] You know, if you're making an image, 1091 01:08:33,109 --> 01:08:34,986 you have to come in the other room. 1092 01:08:35,028 --> 01:08:36,404 - [Michael] Okay. 1093 01:08:36,446 --> 01:08:37,447 - [Katie] So we all start at the same time. 1094 01:08:37,488 --> 01:08:39,282 - [Michael] Team One imagers. 1095 01:08:39,324 --> 01:08:41,534 - Okay, which day has the best coverage by the way? 1096 01:08:41,576 --> 01:08:43,244 I'm doing 3601. 1097 01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:44,662 - [Andrew] I was gonna do 3601 for now. 1098 01:08:44,704 --> 01:08:45,705 - [Michael] Same. 1099 01:08:45,747 --> 01:08:47,248 - [Katie] Okay, are we ready? 1100 01:08:47,290 --> 01:08:48,416 - [Andrew] I'm giddy. 1101 01:08:48,458 --> 01:08:49,751 - [Katie] Oh, my God, wait, 1102 01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:51,294 should we close the door, are we ready? 1103 01:08:51,336 --> 01:08:53,630 - Wait, what is happening? 1104 01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:55,256 - [Katie] We're trying to make an image right now! 1105 01:08:55,298 --> 01:08:58,926 - Can we just pace things a little bit? 1106 01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:01,429 - Well no, first of all. 1107 01:09:01,471 --> 01:09:03,306 - Shep, close the door. 1108 01:09:03,348 --> 01:09:04,265 - [Shep] Oh, my God. 1109 01:09:04,307 --> 01:09:05,516 - Can we start Michael? 1110 01:09:05,558 --> 01:09:06,517 You don't have to start-- 1111 01:09:06,559 --> 01:09:08,186 - Let's wait for Michael 1112 01:09:08,227 --> 01:09:10,521 - [Michael] Can we just go on our little trajectories 1113 01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:13,441 and you know meet up in 20 minutes. 1114 01:09:13,483 --> 01:09:14,734 - [Daniel] No. 1115 01:09:14,776 --> 01:09:16,819 - I just think it's like a big moment 1116 01:09:16,861 --> 01:09:20,281 and I think for me, I'm just saying like, 1117 01:09:21,783 --> 01:09:23,785 I think it'd be fun for us all to do the first one together, 1118 01:09:23,826 --> 01:09:27,288 see that shit, and then go off in our own little ways 1119 01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:28,873 and fix it. 1120 01:09:28,915 --> 01:09:30,458 I mean, I think it's just so exciting that you, 1121 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,834 do you wanna do it alone? 1122 01:09:31,876 --> 01:09:33,294 - [Shep] I'd like to see it all together 1123 01:09:33,336 --> 01:09:35,088 so we can kind of get some idea of the data. 1124 01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:36,130 - [Katie] Are we ready? 1125 01:09:36,172 --> 01:09:37,757 - [Man] Ready. - Ready. 1126 01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:39,967 - [Katie] Ready? It's not gonna work at all. (laughs) 1127 01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:41,552 - [Andrew] Enhance, enhance, enhance. 1128 01:09:41,594 --> 01:09:42,929 - [Katie] Ready? 1129 01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:44,263 - [Andrew] Set. 1130 01:09:44,305 --> 01:09:45,556 - [Katie] Go! 1131 01:09:45,598 --> 01:09:48,142 Oh, my God, oh my God, we pressed go. 1132 01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,938 - [Andrew] It's just a waffle. 1133 01:09:51,979 --> 01:09:55,608 - Ah, that looks really, really interesting. 1134 01:09:59,487 --> 01:10:00,947 How's the waffling going? 1135 01:10:00,988 --> 01:10:02,323 - [Katie] Andrew's looks beautiful 1136 01:10:02,365 --> 01:10:06,953 but there's no tweaking involved. (laughs) 1137 01:10:06,994 --> 01:10:10,164 - [Andrew] I put compactness very high. 1138 01:10:11,374 --> 01:10:12,667 - [Michael] Daniel and I were both getting 1139 01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:13,876 something like this with-- 1140 01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:15,461 - I know, okay. 1141 01:10:15,503 --> 01:10:17,255 That's what I get when I use only closure. 1142 01:10:17,296 --> 01:10:18,589 - [Shep] Only closure? 1143 01:10:18,631 --> 01:10:21,175 - Oh, my God, look at the chi squares. 1144 01:10:21,217 --> 01:10:22,927 - [Shep] That's pretty good. 1145 01:10:22,969 --> 01:10:25,847 - [Michael] And then this is, after a few more iterations, 1146 01:10:25,888 --> 01:10:28,516 it smooths it out and gets rid of some of the extended junk. 1147 01:10:28,558 --> 01:10:29,767 - [Shep] And this is all on low-band? 1148 01:10:29,809 --> 01:10:30,852 - Yeah 1149 01:10:30,893 --> 01:10:32,353 - [Shep] Is this only one day? 1150 01:10:32,395 --> 01:10:33,896 - This only one day. 1151 01:10:33,938 --> 01:10:34,897 - [Shep] It'll work. 1152 01:10:34,939 --> 01:10:36,858 - That's pretty suggestive. 1153 01:10:36,899 --> 01:10:38,568 - [Andrew] Well, it seems-- 1154 01:10:38,609 --> 01:10:40,111 - [Shep] Did you remove these outliers in the amplitude? 1155 01:10:40,153 --> 01:10:41,612 - I didn't touch anything. 1156 01:10:41,654 --> 01:10:44,073 - [Shep] That is very cool guys. 1157 01:10:44,115 --> 01:10:46,033 It's really, really cool. 1158 01:10:46,075 --> 01:10:47,326 Wait, which one is that? 1159 01:10:47,368 --> 01:10:48,995 - [Andrew] This is Katie's image. 1160 01:10:49,036 --> 01:10:50,872 - [Katie] See it looks different though, 1161 01:10:50,913 --> 01:10:54,625 because you guys have a bright spot more on this side. 1162 01:10:54,667 --> 01:10:56,294 - [Michael] Okay, seriously? 1163 01:10:56,335 --> 01:10:58,379 Look, we're all getting kind of a crescent 1164 01:10:58,421 --> 01:11:01,382 that's about the right size-- 1165 01:11:01,424 --> 01:11:03,593 - [Shep] So what is the size on that, it's like-- 1166 01:11:03,634 --> 01:11:05,219 - This is about 40. 1167 01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:07,680 - [Shep] That's when you expect 1168 01:11:07,722 --> 01:11:11,392 if M87 has six billion solar masses. 1169 01:11:11,434 --> 01:11:12,769 - [Michael] That's a high mass case. 1170 01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:14,103 - [Shep] You know what this is? 1171 01:11:14,145 --> 01:11:16,314 This is a scale to weigh black holes. 1172 01:11:16,355 --> 01:11:17,857 - [Michael] Okay, seriously if we can get anything 1173 01:11:17,899 --> 01:11:20,109 that looks remotely like that on all the days-- 1174 01:11:20,151 --> 01:11:22,069 - [Shep] Guys, the only way anyone's leaving this room 1175 01:11:22,111 --> 01:11:24,739 is if everybody gets over there so we take a picture. 1176 01:11:24,781 --> 01:11:26,199 - It could have been awful. 1177 01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,911 - Am I short enough that I can just stand here? 1178 01:11:30,953 --> 01:11:33,748 - You gotta get the thing. 1179 01:11:33,790 --> 01:11:35,750 We're at a point now 1180 01:11:35,792 --> 01:11:39,212 where things could inadvertently go south. 1181 01:11:39,253 --> 01:11:42,381 Okay, so I took a picture on my phone, 1182 01:11:42,423 --> 01:11:44,008 of something on the screen. 1183 01:11:44,050 --> 01:11:45,343 - Okay see you guys tomorrow, 1184 01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:46,803 we'll do some more imaging tomorrow. 1185 01:11:46,844 --> 01:11:49,138 All it's gonna take is for one of these images 1186 01:11:49,180 --> 01:11:51,682 to be texted to the wrong person, 1187 01:11:51,724 --> 01:11:52,975 people will look at it, 1188 01:11:53,017 --> 01:11:54,936 they will measure it off of a screen, 1189 01:11:54,977 --> 01:11:56,646 they'll go write a paper. 1190 01:11:56,687 --> 01:11:58,689 I guarantee you. 1191 01:11:58,731 --> 01:12:03,110 There has to be an absolute, 100% embargo. 1192 01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:07,448 No one outside the EHT collaboration can see anything, 1193 01:12:07,490 --> 01:12:09,951 anything that happens here 1194 01:12:09,992 --> 01:12:12,078 can never leave Team One. 1195 01:12:14,622 --> 01:12:16,040 This is pretty wild. 1196 01:12:16,082 --> 01:12:17,542 It's all wrong, I'm sure it's all wrong, 1197 01:12:17,583 --> 01:12:19,377 but if that works out, 1198 01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:22,630 it's pretty amazing. 1199 01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:52,159 - Things are going well. 1200 01:12:53,369 --> 01:12:56,163 We think that we have managed to do 1201 01:12:56,205 --> 01:12:58,165 this part of the project. 1202 01:13:03,713 --> 01:13:07,508 We've managed to get our target answer of 12J. 1203 01:13:11,512 --> 01:13:14,140 There's a little bit left to do. 1204 01:13:25,109 --> 01:13:29,906 - [Andy] I think the only thing that matters is 3.5. 1205 01:13:29,947 --> 01:13:30,907 - [Malcolm] 3.57? 1206 01:13:30,948 --> 01:13:32,074 - [Andy] Yeah. 1207 01:13:36,579 --> 01:13:38,039 - Good to see you. 1208 01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,082 - [Andy] Hey Sasha? 1209 01:13:40,124 --> 01:13:41,834 - Oh hey, you're here already. 1210 01:13:41,876 --> 01:13:44,837 - Yeah, we've already done like five pages of calculations, 1211 01:13:44,879 --> 01:13:45,671 you're late. 1212 01:13:45,713 --> 01:13:48,424 (Malcolm laughs) 1213 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,261 You're allowed to put your stuff away 1214 01:13:52,303 --> 01:13:54,221 and go to the bed. 1215 01:13:54,263 --> 01:13:56,390 That's alright, I'm needed. 1216 01:13:56,432 --> 01:13:57,516 - [Malcolm] No time for that? 1217 01:13:57,558 --> 01:13:58,351 - Nope. 1218 01:14:00,394 --> 01:14:02,146 - [Andy] Okay, uh-- 1219 01:14:02,188 --> 01:14:03,689 - [Sasha] So where are we at? 1220 01:14:03,731 --> 01:14:06,275 Like, what still needs to be done? 1221 01:14:06,317 --> 01:14:08,569 - The only things I see now 1222 01:14:09,779 --> 01:14:13,783 is understanding this G plus minus to the P. 1223 01:14:13,824 --> 01:14:16,160 - [Sasha] Yep. - Right, and the past horizon? 1224 01:14:16,202 --> 01:14:17,244 - And the past horizon. 1225 01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:18,663 Does anybody see anything else? 1226 01:14:18,704 --> 01:14:19,997 - No, that's it. 1227 01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:25,920 - Back at Brinsop, one year on. 1228 01:14:25,962 --> 01:14:28,089 Last year we thought it'd be pretty plain sailing, 1229 01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:30,341 we would spend a few more weeks then we'd just 1230 01:14:30,383 --> 01:14:32,593 sum up all these terms and get the answer we wanted. 1231 01:14:32,635 --> 01:14:35,096 And then over the course of last year we realized, 1232 01:14:35,137 --> 01:14:37,139 actually it's so much more complicated than that. 1233 01:14:37,181 --> 01:14:39,767 T-left, over T-right plus T-left 1234 01:14:39,809 --> 01:14:41,185 We found there were millions of terms 1235 01:14:41,227 --> 01:14:42,603 and it was never going be a two-week job, 1236 01:14:42,645 --> 01:14:44,605 and we got out computers for the first time, 1237 01:14:44,647 --> 01:14:47,108 and that didn't work. 1238 01:14:47,149 --> 01:14:48,192 - One over. 1239 01:14:49,902 --> 01:14:51,445 - And then, what we realized is that you can actually 1240 01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:52,905 break this equation we had. 1241 01:14:52,947 --> 01:14:54,824 We could break it down into an integrable part 1242 01:14:54,865 --> 01:14:56,325 and a non-integrable part. 1243 01:14:56,367 --> 01:14:58,828 I think that was the breakthrough. 1244 01:14:58,869 --> 01:15:00,287 We had to realize that 1245 01:15:00,329 --> 01:15:02,206 we had almost everything we needed, 1246 01:15:02,248 --> 01:15:04,166 but there was somehow 1247 01:15:04,208 --> 01:15:05,835 a few terms got lost I guess. 1248 01:15:05,876 --> 01:15:07,253 N, D, here. 1249 01:15:07,294 --> 01:15:09,839 What we've discovered is that the equation 1250 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,925 is the sum of the variation of the inertia charge 1251 01:15:12,967 --> 01:15:16,762 and the variation of the angular velocity of the horizon. 1252 01:15:16,804 --> 01:15:19,473 Which when evaluated you get 12J. 1253 01:15:21,017 --> 01:15:22,560 Before, we just had a few of the terms 1254 01:15:22,601 --> 01:15:25,312 involved in the angular velocity of the horizon. 1255 01:15:25,354 --> 01:15:29,400 And without the full thing, it wasn't integrable. 1256 01:15:30,568 --> 01:15:32,945 Now we've found a nice physical picture 1257 01:15:32,987 --> 01:15:34,989 and a nice way of getting 12J 1258 01:15:35,031 --> 01:15:37,950 and now's the final, you know, finishing touches, 1259 01:15:37,992 --> 01:15:41,454 to make sure that we really believe in it. 1260 01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:44,874 I'm just very sad that Stephen won't be able 1261 01:15:44,915 --> 01:15:47,168 to see this through to the end. 1262 01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:50,671 He would have been really, really excited. 1263 01:15:53,257 --> 01:15:57,011 - It's weird how personal physics can become. 1264 01:15:58,888 --> 01:16:02,141 One of the saddest things about Stephen's passing 1265 01:16:02,183 --> 01:16:04,769 in the middle of this is that, 1266 01:16:04,810 --> 01:16:07,021 if it works we can't tell him. 1267 01:16:07,063 --> 01:16:09,815 - [Malcolm] One bottle in front-- 1268 01:16:12,902 --> 01:16:14,361 - To Stephen. 1269 01:16:14,403 --> 01:16:16,113 - [Group] To Stephen. 1270 01:16:16,155 --> 01:16:20,367 - One of the impressive and wonderful things about Stephen, 1271 01:16:20,409 --> 01:16:24,663 was how much he really cared about these questions. 1272 01:16:31,504 --> 01:16:33,297 We know that it's somehow very different 1273 01:16:33,339 --> 01:16:35,257 inside a black hole. 1274 01:16:35,299 --> 01:16:40,096 And so the prize is a really big one if you figure it out. 1275 01:16:42,264 --> 01:16:44,225 The nature of space time. 1276 01:16:47,770 --> 01:16:49,480 - That's about right. 1277 01:16:52,274 --> 01:16:56,403 - Hawking handed us the biggest clue that we have. 1278 01:16:58,781 --> 01:17:01,575 If this project we're on now works, 1279 01:17:04,078 --> 01:17:07,081 it will be like a giant sign post, 1280 01:17:07,123 --> 01:17:09,667 there's gold in this direction. 1281 01:17:11,836 --> 01:17:14,296 You look up in the night sky 1282 01:17:14,338 --> 01:17:17,091 and of course you don't see them. 1283 01:17:18,676 --> 01:17:21,929 But you know they're up there. 1284 01:17:21,971 --> 01:17:23,430 Almost mocking us, 1285 01:17:25,307 --> 01:17:27,101 try and figure me out. 1286 01:17:37,278 --> 01:17:38,571 - [Heino] I just wanna check my audio. 1287 01:17:38,612 --> 01:17:40,322 - [Kazu] Ah, can you hear me? 1288 01:17:40,364 --> 01:17:41,615 - [Heino] Yeah, I can hear you. 1289 01:17:41,657 --> 01:17:42,783 - [Kazu] Hi Monica, can you hear us? 1290 01:17:42,825 --> 01:17:43,868 - (Monica) I can hear you, hello? 1291 01:17:43,909 --> 01:17:45,578 - Okay, so I just wanna start, 1292 01:17:45,619 --> 01:17:50,207 the first telecon actually showing the first images of M87. 1293 01:17:51,125 --> 01:17:53,460 All images are very consistent, 1294 01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:56,005 there is a shadow-like feature. 1295 01:17:56,046 --> 01:17:58,841 Really really encouraging results. 1296 01:18:00,342 --> 01:18:04,430 - Wow, it worked, I mean, it definitely worked. 1297 01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:05,764 We see the ring. 1298 01:18:07,474 --> 01:18:10,519 And then you've got to be very skeptical, actually. 1299 01:18:10,561 --> 01:18:12,021 You know, I would love to see that thing 1300 01:18:12,062 --> 01:18:14,106 and that's what makes me very suspicious 1301 01:18:14,148 --> 01:18:16,442 about myself and what I see. 1302 01:18:16,483 --> 01:18:18,694 I think it's okay to call that a shadow feature, 1303 01:18:18,736 --> 01:18:21,155 if you like, as you see in the middle, 1304 01:18:21,197 --> 01:18:24,825 but we should be really careful of what we think we see. 1305 01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:27,161 - Are we going to see other teams' images? 1306 01:18:27,203 --> 01:18:28,787 - No, no, no, no. 1307 01:18:28,829 --> 01:18:31,832 When we meet at imaging workshop to inspect images 1308 01:18:31,874 --> 01:18:33,667 from each team. 1309 01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:37,046 I could not sleep last night because I was so excited. 1310 01:18:37,087 --> 01:18:39,215 I mean, I've waited for this data set 1311 01:18:39,256 --> 01:18:41,383 and this image for eight years. 1312 01:18:41,425 --> 01:18:44,053 - I'm really happy that we're all getting pretty consistent 1313 01:18:44,094 --> 01:18:46,347 results and I'm excited to see 1314 01:18:46,388 --> 01:18:48,224 what the other teams are doing. 1315 01:18:48,265 --> 01:18:50,893 We all kept pretty good secrets. 1316 01:18:52,895 --> 01:18:54,980 - Imaging Team Three has been doing 1317 01:18:55,022 --> 01:18:57,691 mostly the standard technique 1318 01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:01,028 where we use this algorithm called Clean. 1319 01:19:02,238 --> 01:19:04,615 We have about half a dozen individuals 1320 01:19:04,657 --> 01:19:07,660 on the team who are making the images. 1321 01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:12,665 The central part of the image we're in general agreement on. 1322 01:19:13,916 --> 01:19:15,542 It'll be interesting to see what the other teams 1323 01:19:15,584 --> 01:19:17,836 using maximum entropy and some of the other methods, 1324 01:19:17,878 --> 01:19:20,547 what they got next week. 1325 01:19:20,589 --> 01:19:23,717 We hope that they will be consistent. 1326 01:19:23,759 --> 01:19:25,719 We're trying to be very, very careful about it. 1327 01:19:25,761 --> 01:19:28,055 The worse thing would be to say 1328 01:19:28,097 --> 01:19:31,350 that we've seen black hole shadow and then find out later 1329 01:19:31,392 --> 01:19:33,602 it was an imaging artifact. 1330 01:19:35,187 --> 01:19:37,064 - [Katie] Right now within Team One, 1331 01:19:37,106 --> 01:19:38,857 we feel pretty confident in the structures 1332 01:19:38,899 --> 01:19:41,235 that we're getting. 1333 01:19:41,277 --> 01:19:42,528 - We are feeling pretty good 1334 01:19:42,569 --> 01:19:44,196 about our consistency in our images, 1335 01:19:44,238 --> 01:19:47,241 but we haven't seen anything from the other teams, so, 1336 01:19:47,283 --> 01:19:50,327 it's possible that everything will be a complete mess 1337 01:19:50,369 --> 01:19:51,745 when comparing between the teams. 1338 01:19:51,787 --> 01:19:52,997 - And I'm a little scared 1339 01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:55,374 for what is our plan moving forward 1340 01:19:55,416 --> 01:19:56,917 if we do get different images. 1341 01:19:56,959 --> 01:19:57,751 - Yeah. 1342 01:20:04,591 --> 01:20:05,634 - Good morning? 1343 01:20:05,676 --> 01:20:06,468 - How's it going. 1344 01:20:06,510 --> 01:20:07,636 - Pretty good. 1345 01:20:11,932 --> 01:20:14,935 (indistinct chatter) 1346 01:20:21,483 --> 01:20:22,443 Okay, I look forward to it. 1347 01:20:22,484 --> 01:20:24,028 I'll be right downstairs-- 1348 01:20:24,069 --> 01:20:25,029 - Hey? - Hey. 1349 01:20:25,070 --> 01:20:26,071 - Nice to meet you finally. 1350 01:20:26,113 --> 01:20:27,573 - Likewise. - I'm Katie. 1351 01:20:27,614 --> 01:20:28,949 Nice to meet you. 1352 01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:31,827 Thanks for coming all this way. 1353 01:20:31,869 --> 01:20:34,663 (suspense music) 1354 01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:44,173 - This is an incredibly exciting moment. 1355 01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:46,216 For the first time we're gonna see if all the teams 1356 01:20:46,258 --> 01:20:47,926 are seeing the same basic structure. 1357 01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:50,304 I have not seen any of the results from anywhere else. 1358 01:20:50,346 --> 01:20:54,308 So this is really a Christmas, Hanukkah moment, right? 1359 01:20:54,350 --> 01:20:55,768 This is when you unpack, 1360 01:20:55,809 --> 01:20:58,562 this is when you open up the gifts you know. 1361 01:20:58,604 --> 01:21:00,147 Did you get a pony? I don't know. 1362 01:21:00,189 --> 01:21:01,815 - And then I self-calibrated 1363 01:21:01,857 --> 01:21:04,026 and then amplitude plus closure phase. 1364 01:21:04,068 --> 01:21:05,110 - [Shep] Okay 1365 01:21:05,152 --> 01:21:07,863 - I had a little bit goosebumps. 1366 01:21:07,905 --> 01:21:12,868 I've been waiting for this moment for like ten years. 1367 01:21:14,036 --> 01:21:16,163 I've been modeling black holes for ten years, 1368 01:21:16,205 --> 01:21:19,333 and finally it becomes real. 1369 01:21:19,375 --> 01:21:20,918 - Let's see what we could do 1370 01:21:20,959 --> 01:21:24,254 if we were to just use the exact same script 1371 01:21:24,296 --> 01:21:26,673 without changing anything, without any fine tuning, 1372 01:21:26,715 --> 01:21:28,717 to see what it will do. 1373 01:21:28,759 --> 01:21:29,676 - [Joseph] Okay, that would be very interesting to see. 1374 01:21:29,718 --> 01:21:31,053 Just out of curiosity. 1375 01:21:31,095 --> 01:21:34,348 To see if we can come up with one script 1376 01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:35,432 that could consistently-- 1377 01:21:35,474 --> 01:21:37,017 - All on microarcsecond scale. 1378 01:21:37,059 --> 01:21:39,395 So it does seem like kind of filling in 1379 01:21:39,436 --> 01:21:41,939 the vacuum with more. 1380 01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:43,899 So I guess we have two options 1381 01:21:43,941 --> 01:21:46,068 for response to zero baseline. 1382 01:21:46,110 --> 01:21:47,861 And in both it's producing more or less 1383 01:21:47,903 --> 01:21:49,363 the same image, right? 1384 01:21:49,405 --> 01:21:52,408 - It doesn't make any sense to use it in that. 1385 01:21:52,449 --> 01:21:55,953 - It does actually, they do bring extra information. 1386 01:21:55,994 --> 01:21:58,372 - But it could be completely extraneous information 1387 01:21:58,414 --> 01:22:00,207 - Michael, I still haven't received an image 1388 01:22:00,249 --> 01:22:02,876 from Team Three, should I bug them? 1389 01:22:02,918 --> 01:22:03,710 Okay. 1390 01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:06,505 - It's gonna be much much worse. 1391 01:22:06,547 --> 01:22:07,631 - Okay. 1392 01:22:07,673 --> 01:22:09,216 - Sorry, real quick. 1393 01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:11,969 How much longer do you need before you're ready? 1394 01:22:12,010 --> 01:22:13,720 -Um, I don't know... 1395 01:22:14,847 --> 01:22:16,473 - [Michael] Like 15 minutes? 1396 01:22:16,515 --> 01:22:17,891 - Sure, if everything goes smoothly here, 15 minutes. 1397 01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:19,726 - [Michael] How long does Team Three need? 1398 01:22:19,768 --> 01:22:21,687 - Couple of minutes if it is working. 1399 01:22:21,728 --> 01:22:23,313 - Let's just do that, 1400 01:22:23,355 --> 01:22:24,940 you can see the numbers, if they look fine to you. 1401 01:22:24,982 --> 01:22:25,774 - Okay. 1402 01:22:28,527 --> 01:22:31,155 (door knocking) 1403 01:22:35,659 --> 01:22:36,660 - [Man] Hey, are you-- 1404 01:22:36,702 --> 01:22:38,871 - I'm ready, I'm ready, yeah. 1405 01:22:40,581 --> 01:22:43,584 (indistinct chatter) 1406 01:22:44,835 --> 01:22:48,172 All right, so first we did a normalized 1407 01:22:48,213 --> 01:22:51,425 cross-correlation comparison between all of the images. 1408 01:22:51,467 --> 01:22:55,137 A value of one is gonna be a perfect consistency 1409 01:22:55,179 --> 01:22:58,390 between two images, zero is pretty bad. 1410 01:22:58,432 --> 01:23:00,058 So are we ready for the moment of truth? 1411 01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:03,604 (group applauding) 1412 01:23:03,645 --> 01:23:05,814 Okay, I will scroll down. 1413 01:23:05,856 --> 01:23:06,732 - [Lady] Oh my God. 1414 01:23:06,773 --> 01:23:08,192 - [Man] Look at that. 1415 01:23:08,233 --> 01:23:09,234 - [Group] Wow. 1416 01:23:09,276 --> 01:23:12,154 (group applauding) 1417 01:23:13,906 --> 01:23:15,449 - [Katie] It's M87. 1418 01:23:17,117 --> 01:23:20,120 We compared, basically pixel by pixel, 1419 01:23:20,162 --> 01:23:23,790 you know, how close the images were. 1420 01:23:23,832 --> 01:23:26,627 We haven't talked at all among the teams 1421 01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:29,129 but these numbers tell us that despite that, 1422 01:23:29,171 --> 01:23:31,548 we're all broadly seeing the exact same structure, 1423 01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:33,592 so it's really promising. 1424 01:23:33,634 --> 01:23:36,512 (group applauding) 1425 01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:42,100 - It was surprisingly emotional. 1426 01:23:42,142 --> 01:23:44,686 You know it from a mathematical point of view 1427 01:23:44,728 --> 01:23:46,605 and we've been looking at pictures quite similar to that 1428 01:23:46,647 --> 01:23:49,149 from our own models but when you look at it 1429 01:23:49,191 --> 01:23:52,194 and you have to tell yourself that it's actually data, 1430 01:23:52,236 --> 01:23:54,238 that you're not seeing a simulation 1431 01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:56,573 but you're really looking at a black hole. 1432 01:23:56,615 --> 01:23:58,450 I found myself just with my cell phone 1433 01:23:58,492 --> 01:24:00,369 staring at it for hours. 1434 01:24:02,621 --> 01:24:04,498 What's gonna have to happen now is, 1435 01:24:04,540 --> 01:24:09,086 the whole collaboration has to come together and agree. 1436 01:24:12,548 --> 01:24:15,467 - [Heino] It's the same latitude as ALMA. 1437 01:24:15,509 --> 01:24:19,012 - This is a very, very critical phase of the project. 1438 01:24:19,054 --> 01:24:20,764 We have to bring very different people 1439 01:24:20,806 --> 01:24:22,599 with very different backgrounds together 1440 01:24:22,641 --> 01:24:25,852 to agree on something that will be work 1441 01:24:27,563 --> 01:24:30,357 representative of 200, 250 people. 1442 01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,318 - That's a great question. 1443 01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,529 I think that what would be best. 1444 01:24:35,571 --> 01:24:38,198 It's very easy to lose your credibility. 1445 01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,075 And the Event Horizon Telescope has built up 1446 01:24:40,117 --> 01:24:42,411 credibility over many years. 1447 01:24:43,328 --> 01:24:45,289 We have to get it right. 1448 01:24:47,583 --> 01:24:51,503 - How do you decide what's the key essence? 1449 01:24:51,545 --> 01:24:53,463 What do we all agree on? 1450 01:24:53,505 --> 01:24:56,758 This has been a discussion and it's been contentious. 1451 01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,761 And it's probably not fully decided. 1452 01:25:01,555 --> 01:25:04,516 Yes, we do wanna have a single image 1453 01:25:05,684 --> 01:25:07,436 but we do wanna show the variations as well. 1454 01:25:07,477 --> 01:25:09,229 - [Katie] Yes, it's a compromise we have to come up with-- 1455 01:25:09,271 --> 01:25:11,023 - Yeah, I know, I mean, something that works. 1456 01:25:11,064 --> 01:25:11,940 - Yeah. 1457 01:25:11,982 --> 01:25:13,317 - That thing that works. 1458 01:25:13,358 --> 01:25:15,485 - I think it's not what we want to show. 1459 01:25:15,527 --> 01:25:19,114 I think we should go for the best data set 1460 01:25:19,156 --> 01:25:21,408 and the best image of this, 1461 01:25:21,450 --> 01:25:24,953 easily reproducible for anybody who wants to do it again. 1462 01:25:24,995 --> 01:25:27,122 - I kind of like the average image 1463 01:25:27,164 --> 01:25:29,916 but since it's not consistent with any data, 1464 01:25:29,958 --> 01:25:32,419 are we going to use this image to do for instance, 1465 01:25:32,461 --> 01:25:34,338 a parameter estimation? 1466 01:25:37,883 --> 01:25:40,135 - Everybody came in with their own funding, 1467 01:25:40,177 --> 01:25:42,012 their own expectations, 1468 01:25:42,054 --> 01:25:44,181 so it is all about convincing each other 1469 01:25:44,222 --> 01:25:46,683 and coercing each other to find one way forward. 1470 01:25:46,725 --> 01:25:51,021 I mean, do you think there are unmodeled systematics 1471 01:25:51,938 --> 01:25:52,939 in the synthetic data? 1472 01:25:52,981 --> 01:25:54,608 That made it very democratic, 1473 01:25:54,650 --> 01:25:56,610 but it's not easy, 1474 01:25:56,652 --> 01:25:57,903 I will not lie. 1475 01:26:00,322 --> 01:26:03,116 (suspense music) 1476 01:26:12,209 --> 01:26:14,294 - [Ramesh] I think the dream of any physicist 1477 01:26:14,336 --> 01:26:18,715 who studies black holes is to be able to go through 1478 01:26:18,757 --> 01:26:21,551 the horizon and to the other side. 1479 01:26:27,349 --> 01:26:29,476 If I could take this trip, 1480 01:26:30,977 --> 01:26:35,273 having decided that I've had enough of this world, 1481 01:26:35,315 --> 01:26:36,692 what would I see? 1482 01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:50,080 - [Shep] Just as ancient explorers were drawn to the sea, 1483 01:26:50,122 --> 01:26:52,332 we're drawn to the horizon. 1484 01:26:55,377 --> 01:26:58,130 We're drawn always to the limits. 1485 01:27:04,177 --> 01:27:07,472 - [Andy] The horizon of a black hole 1486 01:27:07,514 --> 01:27:09,891 is the edge of our knowledge, 1487 01:27:11,935 --> 01:27:15,021 of our understanding of the universe. 1488 01:27:17,274 --> 01:27:21,987 And the great exciting problem is to go beyond that edge. 1489 01:27:28,368 --> 01:27:30,203 - [Shep] That's the ultimate. 1490 01:27:30,245 --> 01:27:33,582 That's the place where there's no beyond. 1491 01:27:41,506 --> 01:27:43,049 - [Heino] It's something that doesn't exist 1492 01:27:43,091 --> 01:27:46,887 as a physical, measurable part of the universe. 1493 01:27:48,597 --> 01:27:53,393 But you personally could still go there and experience it. 1494 01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:57,314 But you cannot tell anybody. 1495 01:27:59,149 --> 01:28:02,819 You don't exist anymore to the outside world. 1496 01:28:05,655 --> 01:28:09,743 People always make the link intuitively to death. 1497 01:28:32,766 --> 01:28:35,393 (Skype chiming) 1498 01:28:43,026 --> 01:28:45,612 There they are, smiling. 1499 01:28:45,654 --> 01:28:48,031 It's nice to see you again. 1500 01:28:48,073 --> 01:28:49,783 Miss you guys, miss you guys. 1501 01:28:49,825 --> 01:28:50,951 So we're free. 1502 01:28:53,370 --> 01:28:55,956 We've finished the paper. 1503 01:28:55,997 --> 01:28:57,791 (Andy, Sasha and Malcolm laughing) 1504 01:28:57,833 --> 01:29:00,126 That's why everybody's smiling. 1505 01:29:00,168 --> 01:29:01,962 I'm feeling pretty good. 1506 01:29:02,003 --> 01:29:04,589 - I must say I'm feeling amazingly good. 1507 01:29:04,631 --> 01:29:07,133 Simply because it has taken an amazingly long time 1508 01:29:07,175 --> 01:29:08,677 to actually get done. 1509 01:29:08,718 --> 01:29:09,719 - It's a great relief. 1510 01:29:09,761 --> 01:29:11,513 (Malcolm laughing) 1511 01:29:11,555 --> 01:29:14,641 It's nice to be able to think about the bigger picture 1512 01:29:14,683 --> 01:29:15,892 a bit more. 1513 01:29:15,934 --> 01:29:17,102 I feel like, I spent a lot of time 1514 01:29:17,143 --> 01:29:18,687 getting really bogged down in-- 1515 01:29:18,728 --> 01:29:19,813 - You feel liberated? 1516 01:29:19,855 --> 01:29:21,273 - Yeah, I feel liberated, 1517 01:29:21,314 --> 01:29:23,149 to be able to work out more what's going on, 1518 01:29:23,191 --> 01:29:28,154 and I feel like the result we have is very compelling. 1519 01:29:29,406 --> 01:29:31,950 - We've shown that the soft hair can account 1520 01:29:33,660 --> 01:29:38,123 for all the information that's stored in a black hole. 1521 01:29:39,541 --> 01:29:43,128 But we have to be very smart about what to do next. 1522 01:29:43,169 --> 01:29:44,963 - [Malcolm] Yeah, absolutely right. 1523 01:29:45,005 --> 01:29:48,300 - The big challenge is trying to show 1524 01:29:48,341 --> 01:29:50,343 not only that this could happen, 1525 01:29:50,385 --> 01:29:53,889 but that it does happen and that there's a mechanism 1526 01:29:53,930 --> 01:29:58,894 for the flow of information in and out of the black hole. 1527 01:30:00,145 --> 01:30:02,689 That is a much more complicated problem. 1528 01:30:02,731 --> 01:30:05,317 That's what Stephen would want us to be doing. 1529 01:30:05,358 --> 01:30:07,611 (Malcolm and Sasha laughs) 1530 01:30:07,652 --> 01:30:09,362 - [Malcolm] I mean look, look, 1531 01:30:09,404 --> 01:30:14,284 Are you coming to this press release on the 15th? 1532 01:30:14,326 --> 01:30:15,118 - Uhm. 1533 01:30:16,077 --> 01:30:17,495 - I'm hesitating. 1534 01:30:18,580 --> 01:30:21,374 (suspense music) 1535 01:30:34,429 --> 01:30:36,222 - Well, good afternoon. 1536 01:30:36,264 --> 01:30:38,391 Welcome to the press launch of the final book 1537 01:30:38,433 --> 01:30:40,852 by Professor Stephen Hawking. 1538 01:30:40,894 --> 01:30:43,063 Now up until his death he continued to search 1539 01:30:43,104 --> 01:30:45,231 for answers with his final paper, 1540 01:30:45,273 --> 01:30:47,901 a work with his long-time collaborators, 1541 01:30:47,943 --> 01:30:50,946 Professors Malcolm Perry and Andy Strominger, 1542 01:30:50,987 --> 01:30:53,073 on one of the most puzzling problems 1543 01:30:53,114 --> 01:30:55,617 facing the scientific community today, 1544 01:30:55,659 --> 01:30:58,411 the information paradox. 1545 01:30:58,453 --> 01:31:02,165 So Malcolm, Andy, give us a capsule summary of the paper. 1546 01:31:02,207 --> 01:31:04,668 - Yeah, you know, it's a huge problem 1547 01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:06,670 that Stephen gave to us. 1548 01:31:08,254 --> 01:31:12,133 It took 50 years to understand what a black hole was 1549 01:31:12,175 --> 01:31:14,302 before you started worrying about the-- 1550 01:31:14,344 --> 01:31:16,638 It'll be a decade before we know 1551 01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,725 whether this path is gonna get us where we wanna go. 1552 01:31:20,767 --> 01:31:23,937 We also don't know that it can't. 1553 01:31:23,979 --> 01:31:28,483 And, I also have to confess, not very scientific of me, 1554 01:31:29,567 --> 01:31:31,361 it has the right feel. 1555 01:31:33,488 --> 01:31:37,784 I'm very excited to be part of this grand adventure. 1556 01:31:43,039 --> 01:31:44,040 - To Stephen. 1557 01:31:44,082 --> 01:31:45,709 - To Stephen. 1558 01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:46,793 - To soft hair. 1559 01:31:46,835 --> 01:31:48,003 - To soft hair. 1560 01:31:49,462 --> 01:31:53,383 And to the demise of the information paradox. 1561 01:31:53,425 --> 01:31:55,343 - And to the next paper. 1562 01:31:58,138 --> 01:31:59,556 It's a great life. 1563 01:32:00,598 --> 01:32:02,559 It's what life is about. 1564 01:32:09,733 --> 01:32:12,485 (engine roaring) 1565 01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:17,073 (suspense music) 1566 01:32:45,226 --> 01:32:48,313 (indistinct chatter) 1567 01:32:53,818 --> 01:32:55,695 - That is good, yeah. 1568 01:32:55,737 --> 01:32:57,489 - I feel the same way. 1569 01:32:58,615 --> 01:33:01,326 (suspense music) 1570 01:33:06,581 --> 01:33:09,918 - Hey, welcome to today's press conference. 1571 01:33:09,959 --> 01:33:12,337 Brought to you by the National Science Foundation 1572 01:33:12,378 --> 01:33:13,254 and the Event Horizon-- 1573 01:33:13,296 --> 01:33:14,964 - Good afternoon. 1574 01:33:15,006 --> 01:33:17,425 We have very little time before the actual announcement 1575 01:33:17,467 --> 01:33:19,511 goes live across the globe, 1576 01:33:19,552 --> 01:33:22,222 in six simultaneous press conferences, so I will-- 1577 01:33:22,263 --> 01:33:25,642 - Buenos dias a todos, today is an extraordinary day 1578 01:33:25,683 --> 01:33:27,102 for astronomy. 1579 01:33:27,143 --> 01:33:28,186 We are-- 1580 01:33:28,228 --> 01:33:31,064 (speaking in foreign language) 1581 01:33:31,106 --> 01:33:34,651 - What you're seeing here is a result 1582 01:33:34,692 --> 01:33:38,363 of many, many people working together. 1583 01:33:38,404 --> 01:33:41,741 - Thank you, assembled guests, black hole enthusiasts. 1584 01:33:41,783 --> 01:33:45,829 Black holes are the most mysterious objects in the universe. 1585 01:33:45,870 --> 01:33:48,873 Now, we are members of a large collaboration. 1586 01:33:48,915 --> 01:33:52,252 We are 200 members strong, we have 60 institutes, 1587 01:33:52,293 --> 01:33:55,296 and we are working in over 20 countries and regions. 1588 01:33:55,338 --> 01:33:59,050 We worked for over a decade to expose part of the universe 1589 01:33:59,092 --> 01:34:01,261 that was invisible to us before. 1590 01:34:01,302 --> 01:34:04,681 And we are delighted to be able to report to you today 1591 01:34:04,722 --> 01:34:09,102 that we have seen what we thought was unseeable. 1592 01:34:09,144 --> 01:34:13,273 We have seen, and taken a picture of a black hole. 1593 01:34:15,733 --> 01:34:16,609 Here it is. 1594 01:34:20,446 --> 01:34:22,490 We now have visual evidence 1595 01:34:22,532 --> 01:34:25,201 for the existence of a black hole. 1596 01:34:25,243 --> 01:34:26,953 We now know that 1597 01:34:26,995 --> 01:34:29,289 a black hole that weighs 6.5 billion times what our sun does 1598 01:34:29,330 --> 01:34:31,624 exists in the center of M87. 1599 01:34:33,835 --> 01:34:36,254 And this is just the beginning. 1600 01:34:36,296 --> 01:34:37,964 (audience applauding) 1601 01:34:38,006 --> 01:34:39,048 - [Man] Thank you. 1602 01:34:39,090 --> 01:34:42,969 (audience applauding continues) 1603 01:34:56,399 --> 01:34:59,110 (suspense music) 1604 01:35:46,115 --> 01:35:49,744 (gentle instrumental music) 115986

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