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- [Stephen Hawking] A black
hole is stranger than anything
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dreamed up by science
fiction writers.
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A region of space where
gravity is so strong
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that nothing can escape.
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Once you are over the edge,
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there's no way back.
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(rooster crows)
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(dog barking)
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(bells clanging)
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(birds chirping)
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(coyote barking)
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(horn honking)
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- Wow.
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It never ceases to get me,
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seeing these two
mountains up here.
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It's a bit deceptive.
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It looks as though you
can just hike up there
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in a couple of hours.
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But that is a big elevation
shift from where we are now.
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- [Shep] I was not a
big boy astronomer,
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I didn't have a
telescope growing up
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but I do remember seeing
what a black hole was.
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I thought there are
very interesting things
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in the universe to be explored.
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The Event Horizon Telescope
is a new instrument
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that a global team is assembling
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that will have the
magnifying power to resolve
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the region immediately
around a black hole.
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That's never been done before.
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We are chasing down
something that struggles
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with all of its
might to be unseen.
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And we're saying,
we're gonna catch you.
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- When you get to
about 15,000 feet,
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you're-you're above quite
a bit of the atmosphere.
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You really need to be above
the atmosphere to see through
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to the emptiness of space.
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The goal of the Event
Horizon Telescope
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is really easy to state,
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we're gonna take the first
picture of a black hole.
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- What I had
yesterday as of noon,
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was every part of the system
of the front end working.
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- [Shep] We've come to
the LMT here in January
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specifically to do
what's called a dry run.
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And we're discovering problems.
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- Then, we tried to replace
the Gunn, now we've lost power,
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and that's what we're
troubleshooting upstairs now.
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Today I'm gonna try to get
the Gunn working again.
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The old Gunn--
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- [Shep] But if we went
back to this old Gunn,
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then, we're still
compatible with the EHT--
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- By doing a double-down
conversion, yes.
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- For January and April.
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April is when we're gonna
have all the telescopes
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around the world,
a full EHT working,
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and it's our best shot
at imaging a black hole.
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But before we get there,
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we had to make sure that
everything is working.
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So the first goal is to try
to get the 232.1 gigahertz
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working again with the old Gunn.
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If that doesn't work, then what?
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- My plan B is that--
(audio fades out)
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(birds chirping)
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- [Gopal] The larger
the telescope,
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the better it's able
to see tiny objects.
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To resolve the black hole
in the center of our galaxy
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or the bigger black hole in M87,
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we need a telescope nearly
the size of the earth.
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Well, that's clearly impossible.
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So we do the next best thing.
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We take telescopes
scattered around the world
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and make them all look
simultaneously at the black hole.
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- [Shep] Imagine taking a mirror
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and smashing it with a hammer
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and distributing these
shards all over the world.
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And then recording what
happens on each of those shards
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and then bringing them together
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and reconstructing that
mirror in a supercomputer.
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That's what the Event
Horizon Telescope is doing.
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So at every site, everything
has to work perfectly.
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- I think this thing
took quite a hit.
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- In shipping?
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- If it turns on and it smokes
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then we'll know there's
something wrong.
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- Yeah.
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- [Shep] We still have
to make some tests.
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Tomorrow we are gonna
trigger a real observation.
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And that's gonna involve the
South Pole, Spain, Chile,
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and God willing, the LMT.
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- [Producer] You've
got a clock ticking.
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- I know.
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Cue the Mission
Impossible theme.
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- Look, That's the
telescope buried underneath
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that uh, S-H-I-T,
if I may say so.
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- Wait, what happened here?
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- What-What happened?
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- Weather happened to us.
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- Wait, you're shitting me.
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Last 16 hours it's
been beautiful
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and as soon as we come up,
like the gods hammer us?
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That's crap.
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- [Gopal] Well we
can't point and focus
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through this weather right now
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- [Shep] The schedule
is supposed to start--
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- In 40 minutes, we know.
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In uh, 35 now.
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- If we're still in the clouds
and it gets really cold,
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it's gonna be an ice situation.
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- [Gopal] Yeah.
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- That's a possibility.
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- [Gopal] That's what
I'm worrying about.
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- Yeah, I'm really
worrying about that.
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- Everybody cross their fingers,
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use your favorite incantations,
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and we'll clear through this.
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- [Shep] Okay, so we're gonna
set levels in the other room
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and then we'll be ready to go.
- I need to adjust
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the power level of the
upstairs a little bit.
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- [Shep] You realize that
we're firing this thing off
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in exactly 14 minutes
and 15 seconds.
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- Yeah, yeah,
yeah, I know but...
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Ah, jeez.
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Did you say 65-737
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- So it's RCP and
LCP high, right?
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- We got one minute.
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- [Gopal] Here we go,
people, hold onto your hats.
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- Okay, we're ready.
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- [Gopal] Four,
three, two, one, zero!
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Blast off.
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- Oh boy.
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What is a black hole?
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It is so deep,
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it's so hard to fully appreciate
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all of the physics
that's going on.
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You can spend your
life studying this.
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Imagine an object where
gravity has become so strong,
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it has compressed
all of the material
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with which it started
down into a point.
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This object develops what's
called an event horizon.
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And this event horizon
has this amazing property
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that it's a one-way street.
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You can go from the
outside to the inside,
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nothing will ever get out.
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- The gravitational
pull is so strong
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that anything that
comes close enough to it
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will just vanish inside.
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If something disappears over
the event horizon it's gone.
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And we no longer have
any knowledge of it.
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It is no longer detectable,
it's no longer knowable.
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It might still exist,
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it might not still exist,
we have no way of knowing.
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We have a contact with
a kind of phenomenon
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that we don't fully understand.
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- It's like a vortex
in the universe
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in space and time.
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The darkest object we can
imagine mathematically,
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fundamentally emits no
light, reflects no light.
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But it becomes the engine
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of the most powerful events we
now observe in the universe.
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There's something about that,
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that really pushes
the mind. (laughs)
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- [Stephen Hawking]
Can you hear me?
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- [Audience] Yes.
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- It is said that fact is
sometimes stranger than fiction,
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but nowhere is that more true
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than in the case of black holes.
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Currently I'm working with
my Cambridge colleague
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Malcolm Perry and Andy
Strominger from Harvard,
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on a new theory to
explain the mechanism
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by which information is
returned out of the black hole.
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Watch this space.
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- [Andy] I met Stephen in 1982.
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Over the years we coincided
on a number of topics,
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a surprising number but the
very kind of intense thing
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that's grown over the
last, what is it now?
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- [Malcolm] Three years?
- Three years.
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- [Malcolm] Yeah.
- Yeah.
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Has been a whole
new, wonderful level.
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- [Malcolm] And quite different.
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- [Andy] Quite different, yeah.
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- [Malcolm] It was
a fabulous warm day,
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kind of unusual in
England for April.
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So we had a lecture outside.
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This was in a place called
Great Brampton House.
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- For the last 10 years,
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Stephen and friends
organized a small retreat.
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I had these ideas about
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the structure of the
edges of infinity
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and how they could
store information.
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- I was simply listening
to this lecture
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and I felt that the
phenomenon he was describing
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could be happening on the
surface of the black hole.
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- Stephen picked up
on that immediately.
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And he said, this is
it, this is the piece
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that we've been missing.
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He is very eager to
unravel the paradox
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that he unleashed on
the world in 1975.
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- Something called the
information paradox,
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which basically says
that black holes
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annihilate information which
should not be possible.
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That's the paradox.
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It implies that
there's a breakdown
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of laws of physics in the
presence of black holes.
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- This is why we're
chasing this problem,
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because if information is
lost, then that contradicts
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almost everything we
know about physics.
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Something's gone wrong
understanding how black holes work.
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- From the outside,
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you can't tell what is
inside a black hole.
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- When you look at a black
hole, all you can tell about it
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are its mass, its charge
and its state of rotation.
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And that's the same
for any black hole
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no matter what it
was made out of.
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- This means that a black hole
contains a lot of information
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that is hidden from
the outside world.
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- That was a very weird thing
people to get to grips with
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and then Stephen Hawking
made this amazing discovery
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of Hawking Radiation,
that says actually
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stuff comes out of a black hole,
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and that's where the
problem really started.
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- It turns out they're
not black, they radiate.
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And as they radiate they lose
mass and eventually disappear.
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An equivalent mass of elephants
could form a black hole,
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an equivalent mass of
Encyclopedia Britannica
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could form a black hole.
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The black hole evaporates
and what's left behind
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is the same sea of
Hawking Radiation.
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- It appears that
the information
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about what fell in is lost.
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The particles that come
out of a black hole
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seem to be completely random
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and to bear no relation
to what fell in.
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- If what Hawking
said were correct,
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it can spit out anything.
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It can spit out a piano,
it can spit out a trombone.
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It can, anything can come out.
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That means that the basic
nature of the universe
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is just random.
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There aren't really
physical laws
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which govern the
entire universe.
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This is every
physicist's nightmare.
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- Much of our knowledge of
the universe is grounded on
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our belief that we
can reliably predict
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using the laws of nature.
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We have a physical theory,
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we make predictions
using that theory.
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We do experiments or
observations to see
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if those predictions
were realized.
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We understand the
early universe by using
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the laws of physics
to predict backwards
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and say what the world
must have been like.
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If those laws break down,
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it's about the
limits of knowledge.
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What sorts of things could we
possibly know about the world?
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- If the predictability
of the universe
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breaks down with black holes,
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it could break down
in other situations.
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Even worse, if
information is lost,
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we can't be sure of our
past history either.
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The history books and our
memories could just be illusions.
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It is the past that
tells us who we are.
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Without it we lose our identity.
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(mixer whirring)
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- Since I was a
graduate student,
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the information paradox has
been central in my thinking.
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It's a sort of 24/7 thing.
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I get up, I make
myself a cup of coffee,
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I sit down with a pad of paper.
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I'm thinking about it
when I brush my teeth,
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dream about it.
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It is the most interesting,
well-posed question
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in modern physics.
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So interesting that
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I was ready to devote my life
to trying to understand it.
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(indistinct chatter)
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In the 40 years since
Hawking's argument.
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- By the way, while
Malcolm's erasing--
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- There's certainly
been thousands of papers
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about how the paradox
might be avoided.
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(indistinct chatter)
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None of them has gained
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universal acceptance
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and they all are problematic
in one way or another.
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- So the magical formula
I think I could write out
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in excruciating detail.
- Yeah.
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So while Malcolm's writing, uh,
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what we've done is first
of all worked out--
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But now, Stephen, Malcolm
and I have found a mechanism
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by which the information paradox
might possibly be resolved.
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Wow, seems very exciting.
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- It's the beginning
of something deep,
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that we really quite
don't know what.
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- Investigating this is
vigorously underway now.
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- But central in terms of what?
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- Well, it's a super rotation.
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- Huh.
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- So, the super rotations,
so ordinary BMS group.
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Physics is about
finding the truth
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about the universe.
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We might not ever get all of it.
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This then gives us
a conservation law.
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But I think there's a good
shot that in my lifetime,
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we'll nail this one.
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And so that's conservation
of super rotation charge.
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Now, let me erase here.
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(suspense music)
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- Seeing is believing.
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That's the most credible
and the most powerful sense
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that we have.
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We need to see things.
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We long to see things.
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In my mind, like for 10 years,
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there's no question
there is a black hole
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and there's no
question it's possible.
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I still wanna see
that stupid image.
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Yeah, I wanna see it.
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- We have never actually
seen the telltale sign
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of the black hole which is that
virtual region, the horizon,
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from which not even
light can escape.
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With the Event Horizon
Telescope we're gonna zoom
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all the way to the
size of the horizon,
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and see if it will cast a
silhouette, will cast a shadow.
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- The Event Horizon
Telescope is the culmination
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of really decades of work.
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Once we began to realize
that we could make an image,
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that became fascinating.
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So over the past years
we've gone to new sites,
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and we've had to
convince those new sites
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that the science is worthy.
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We've had to develop and
install very specialized
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and expensive equipment
at all of these sites,
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in all of these extreme places.
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We are now at the moment
when we'll be doing
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our first observing with the
chance of making an image.
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- [Feryal] That's
still a question mark
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but local wisdom is a go.
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- [Dimitrios] Yeah.
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SPT weather good,
no-go for pointing.
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- [Feryal] Pointing issues.
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- [Dimitrios] SMT technically
ready, weather forecast
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possible of high wind but
unlikely to cause anything.
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- [Feryal] So night's
outlook is good, right?
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- [Dimitrios] Yes.
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- We set up telescopes
around the earth
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that can talk to each other,
that can record data in tandem,
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so after the fact we
can combine these data
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and make it act like they
were actually one telescope.
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Right now, the Event Horizon
Telescope is an array
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of eight dishes
across the globe.
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From the South Pole to the
Arizona desert to Hawaii to Chile
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creating effectively, an
earth-sized telescope.
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- [Dimitrios] Weather
forecast is good for Pico?
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- [Feryal] I mean,
they say excellent, so.
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- [Shep] Looks
pretty good to me.
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- [Feryal] I'm
changing this to 0.2.
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- I'd like to see the
LMT water vapor map.
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(indistinct chatter)
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When you have a single facility,
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it's the weather above
that one telescope
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that has to be perfect
for a night's observing.
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Now imagine you
need perfect weather
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at every single site
around the array.
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- By the time we start observing,
it's gonna have moved past
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but we don't know what
else is gonna move in.
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Seems to be accelerating.
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- Right, so SMT
is getting worse.
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- So what are the
pinch points here?
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It's really just LMT and SMT
and we're gonna have to make
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a decision at South Pole just
based on what we know now
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which is they might
have pointing issues.
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- LMT, how worried are
you about the maser?
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- I'm a little worried
about the maser
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just because we haven't
done some of the tests
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that would let us
see how good it is.
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- Shep, it's 3130,
we have half an hour.
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- [Shep] Yeah.
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- Should we call it?
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- I basically think that we
should trigger for tonight.
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I think it's probably the
best weather we're gonna get,
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technical issues are
breaking our way.
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I mean, of all the nights
to have a question mark
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by South Pole this is
the one to have it.
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- [Dimitrios] Yeah.
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- Um, will get some
pretty good M87 scans,
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one hopes, right?
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- Yep.
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- So let it be written,
so let it be done.
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I will make the decision,
I will broadcast it.
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- [Lady] Night five,
track D is a go!
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- May all future nights
be as good as this one.
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- And then, all
around the world,
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all the telescopes
swivel at the same time
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and we will begin to record
photons from the black hole.
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- How big a black
hole looks in the sky
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is a combination of its
mass and how far away it is.
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The black hole at the center
of our galaxy, Sagittarius A#,
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has the largest angular size
in the sky followed by M87.
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M87's black hole is a
thousand times bigger
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but roughly a thousand
times farther away.
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00:25:23,939 --> 00:25:28,652
They turn out to have pretty
comparable sizes in the sky.
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- This is central command,
it's always manned 24/7.
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Uh, people write in and they
say I'm having an emergency
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with one of my recorders, or
my receiver, or something.
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00:25:45,210 --> 00:25:47,379
- We hope to be bored.
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We hope that there's
nothing to do
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and that everything
is going smoothly
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and that nothing goes wrong.
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But you know, we're
here just in case.
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- We've just finished day
three of the EHT observations.
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It's been unprecedented.
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We triggered three consecutive
nights of observing
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and that's because the
weather has been phenomenal.
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And the team is quite tired
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because we've been working
round the clock for three days.
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They're at high altitude sites,
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they're paying a lot
of attention to detail,
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they're under a lot of stress,
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00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:22,623
they're trying to
run down problems,
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00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:26,960
and we're pushing people
to the limit at this point.
424
00:26:30,756 --> 00:26:33,467
(birds chirping)
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- [Atish] Final scan of
Sagittarius A# begins.
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- This is it, oh
yeah, so this is it,
427
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the final scan of the 2017
observations on Sagittarius A#.
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00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:53,821
(soft Hawaiian music)
429
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♩ Somewhere over the rainbow ♩
430
00:27:09,294 --> 00:27:12,089
♩ Bluebirds fly ♩
431
00:27:12,131 --> 00:27:13,715
Did you write that woohoo?
432
00:27:13,757 --> 00:27:16,135
- Yup. (chuckles)
433
00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:18,929
♩ Dreams that you dream of ♩
434
00:27:18,971 --> 00:27:23,934
♩ Dreams really do
come true-ooh-ooh ♩
435
00:27:27,271 --> 00:27:30,232
♩ Someday I'll
wish upon a star ♩
436
00:27:30,274 --> 00:27:35,237
♩ Wake up where the
clouds are far behind me ♩
437
00:27:38,448 --> 00:27:39,783
♩ Where trouble melts
like lemon drops ♩
438
00:27:39,825 --> 00:27:42,452
- I think this song
just really captures
439
00:27:42,494 --> 00:27:45,289
how good it is to
realize something
440
00:27:45,330 --> 00:27:48,375
that you've been
working on for ages.
441
00:27:50,043 --> 00:27:51,837
- [Producer] How long?
442
00:27:52,838 --> 00:27:55,299
I've been working on this for,
443
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,092
I don't know, 20 years.
444
00:27:57,134 --> 00:27:59,761
♩ Bluebirds fly ♩
445
00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,265
Next at every EHT site,
446
00:28:03,307 --> 00:28:05,976
everybody will pack up
the hard disk drives
447
00:28:06,018 --> 00:28:08,145
carefully, very carefully,
448
00:28:09,521 --> 00:28:13,942
ship them back to the
central processing facility.
449
00:28:13,984 --> 00:28:15,819
Wait, guys, we're done.
450
00:28:17,029 --> 00:28:19,823
We've just finished
the whole scan thing,
451
00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,825
we're done, it's a wrap!
452
00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:24,995
(team applauding)
453
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:28,373
We just finished
the entire scan,
454
00:28:28,415 --> 00:28:32,502
and the entire schedule,
and the entire campaign,
455
00:28:34,254 --> 00:28:37,382
and the entire Event
Horizon Telescope
456
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observations for this year.
457
00:28:43,555 --> 00:28:46,308
The great challenge for
the Event Horizon Telescope
458
00:28:46,350 --> 00:28:48,435
is only when you get
all the data back
459
00:28:48,477 --> 00:28:49,853
to the central
correlation facility,
460
00:28:49,895 --> 00:28:52,356
do you truly know that
everything worked.
461
00:28:52,397 --> 00:28:55,025
And that will take over a month.
462
00:28:56,235 --> 00:28:58,403
Until then there's
always this tension,
463
00:28:58,445 --> 00:29:00,030
there's always this
slight uncertainty
464
00:29:00,072 --> 00:29:02,699
that something's
been overlooked.
465
00:29:04,076 --> 00:29:08,038
So May, springtime, rebirth,
imaging black holes,
466
00:29:10,916 --> 00:29:14,920
it's gonna be quite a
summer, I'll tell you that.
467
00:29:16,588 --> 00:29:19,383
(suspense music)
468
00:31:20,504 --> 00:31:21,755
- It's been a perennial question
469
00:31:21,797 --> 00:31:24,591
in the philosophy of science,
470
00:31:24,633 --> 00:31:28,678
if what we're primarily
interested in are phenomena
471
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,973
as they can be detected
experimentally,
472
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:35,644
how, in fact,
473
00:31:37,437 --> 00:31:41,691
do we come to have knowledge
about unobservable entities?
474
00:31:41,733 --> 00:31:44,653
(suspense music)
475
00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:56,039
- I've always had a pull
towards the invisible
476
00:31:57,874 --> 00:31:59,376
and the mysterious.
477
00:32:00,836 --> 00:32:04,423
I've sort of naturally
gravitated to black holes.
478
00:32:06,675 --> 00:32:10,429
But a black hole is very,
very hard to understand
479
00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:12,431
with just the equations.
480
00:32:20,272 --> 00:32:24,818
- If you really wanna know
anything at any level of detail,
481
00:32:24,860 --> 00:32:28,655
you're not gonna do it
with just pure mathematics,
482
00:32:28,697 --> 00:32:30,157
it's not gonna happen.
483
00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:33,326
You need to simulate
it on a computer.
484
00:32:39,541 --> 00:32:41,751
You have what's called
an accretion disk
485
00:32:41,793 --> 00:32:44,504
that's orbiting the black hole.
486
00:32:44,546 --> 00:32:45,589
It's chaotic.
487
00:32:48,758 --> 00:32:52,637
It's ionized gas, it's
got magnetic fields,
488
00:32:52,679 --> 00:32:54,931
the whole thing is churning.
489
00:32:56,183 --> 00:32:59,102
The gas gets hot and
then it radiates.
490
00:33:02,939 --> 00:33:04,900
That gets a little
too complicated
491
00:33:04,941 --> 00:33:09,070
for a theorist to calculate
with pencil and paper.
492
00:33:16,161 --> 00:33:20,457
- Simulations really help
us make what is invisible,
493
00:33:21,625 --> 00:33:23,293
what is unseen, seen.
494
00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:56,117
(birds chirping)
495
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:57,869
- [Malcolm] It must be Andy.
496
00:33:57,911 --> 00:33:59,371
- [Sasha] Oh, yeah.
497
00:33:59,412 --> 00:34:01,665
- We have almost
incredibly good news.
498
00:34:01,706 --> 00:34:03,208
- What?
499
00:34:03,250 --> 00:34:04,501
(Sasha chuckles)
500
00:34:04,543 --> 00:34:06,211
- But not quite.
501
00:34:06,253 --> 00:34:08,630
There's a missing
link somewhere.
502
00:34:08,672 --> 00:34:11,341
If you don't worry about it
you get the right answer.
503
00:34:11,383 --> 00:34:13,885
- [Andy] Oh well,
I never worry, so.
504
00:34:13,927 --> 00:34:17,180
- Once a year, Stephen
Hawking and his friends
505
00:34:17,222 --> 00:34:19,808
take over some house somewhere,
506
00:34:21,226 --> 00:34:23,645
where we can exchange ideas,
where we can have fun,
507
00:34:23,687 --> 00:34:25,897
where we can go off into the
mountains and have a hike.
508
00:34:25,939 --> 00:34:27,023
Stephen arrived.
509
00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,358
- [Andy] Stephen's here? Great.
510
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,360
- So if you go all
the way that way,
511
00:34:30,402 --> 00:34:32,571
you can say hello to him.
512
00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:34,322
(woman laughing)
513
00:34:34,364 --> 00:34:38,535
- Stephen, Sasha, Malcolm and
I found a chink in the armor
514
00:34:40,036 --> 00:34:43,290
of uh, more than a chink,
a huge gap in the armor
515
00:34:43,331 --> 00:34:45,333
of the information paradox.
516
00:34:45,375 --> 00:34:47,043
- Why don't we use the
blackboard in there.
517
00:34:47,085 --> 00:34:48,044
- All right.
518
00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:50,714
- [Andy] The old story was,
519
00:34:50,755 --> 00:34:53,133
there just wasn't any
way that a black hole
520
00:34:53,174 --> 00:34:58,138
could store information, it
was just a hole in space.
521
00:34:59,306 --> 00:35:00,890
- What we've discovered
is that the horizon
522
00:35:00,932 --> 00:35:03,893
does have some properties
that encode information.
523
00:35:03,935 --> 00:35:06,813
Namely the super translation
and the super rotation degrees
524
00:35:06,855 --> 00:35:09,399
of freedom, what we
now call the soft hair.
525
00:35:09,441 --> 00:35:11,568
- Okay, I'll put it round.
526
00:35:13,111 --> 00:35:16,281
- The hair is spread
around the horizon
527
00:35:17,240 --> 00:35:19,034
of the black hole.
528
00:35:19,075 --> 00:35:21,620
When you throw something
into the black hole
529
00:35:21,661 --> 00:35:23,330
you change its hairdo.
530
00:35:23,371 --> 00:35:25,290
So you start like this,
you throw something in,
531
00:35:25,332 --> 00:35:26,791
it goes like that.
532
00:35:28,043 --> 00:35:31,421
We discovered there's
a record of what fell
533
00:35:31,463 --> 00:35:33,089
into the black hole.
534
00:35:35,175 --> 00:35:38,762
Some information is
definitely transferred.
535
00:35:41,848 --> 00:35:44,643
We don't know yet
if all of it is.
536
00:35:46,269 --> 00:35:48,647
- And that's really
what we are currently
537
00:35:48,688 --> 00:35:50,357
trying hard to investigate.
538
00:35:50,398 --> 00:35:52,025
It looks like this.
539
00:35:52,067 --> 00:35:53,777
- [Sasha] Yeah, it only
contained with two derivatives
540
00:35:53,818 --> 00:35:56,279
in epsilon, so that'll vanish.
541
00:35:56,321 --> 00:35:59,616
We need to see if this soft
hair and these soft particles
542
00:35:59,658 --> 00:36:01,785
can encode all the
information in a black hole.
543
00:36:01,826 --> 00:36:03,161
- Okay, so we're not
worried about that term?
544
00:36:03,203 --> 00:36:04,454
- [Malcolm] No.
545
00:36:04,496 --> 00:36:05,955
- Did you look at
that term, too?
546
00:36:05,997 --> 00:36:09,709
- There's a formula by
Bekenstein and Hawking
547
00:36:09,751 --> 00:36:13,630
in the early 70s for
exactly how many gigabytes
548
00:36:16,841 --> 00:36:20,136
of information can be
stored in a black hole.
549
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:24,599
So the very first test,
which we have not yet passed,
550
00:36:26,309 --> 00:36:30,939
is counting the information
using the soft hair
551
00:36:30,980 --> 00:36:35,193
and showing that it gives
exactly the right answer.
552
00:36:38,988 --> 00:36:42,367
- If we can get the
central charge to be 12J,
553
00:36:42,409 --> 00:36:44,160
information is not lost.
554
00:36:44,202 --> 00:36:45,870
Information is conserved,
555
00:36:45,912 --> 00:36:47,497
and that we'll be able
to trace this information
556
00:36:47,539 --> 00:36:50,166
by looking at the horizon.
557
00:36:50,208 --> 00:36:53,002
And we've spent about
three months getting zero,
558
00:36:53,044 --> 00:36:54,963
then another three
months getting infinity,
559
00:36:55,004 --> 00:36:57,966
and the last few weeks,
Malcolm thought he got 12
560
00:36:58,007 --> 00:37:00,510
and now we think that's
actually wrong again.
561
00:37:00,552 --> 00:37:02,929
As of today, we have 12,
562
00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:04,931
but with a dubious step.
563
00:37:06,391 --> 00:37:08,852
- [Andy] Are you saying that
that integration by parts
564
00:37:08,893 --> 00:37:12,439
was done to get
this last formula?
565
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,232
- I have a feeling.
566
00:37:14,274 --> 00:37:16,192
- Yeah, because there's no terms
567
00:37:16,234 --> 00:37:18,987
with two derivatives on zeta.
568
00:37:19,028 --> 00:37:20,155
- Well, the whole
point was to get rid
569
00:37:20,196 --> 00:37:23,366
of two derivative terms on zeta.
570
00:37:23,408 --> 00:37:26,703
- [Andy] But maybe
they're really there.
571
00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:31,374
Let's see, uh, okay.
572
00:37:32,876 --> 00:37:37,088
So I think we need to think
a little more about this.
573
00:37:39,424 --> 00:37:42,051
Oh, Stephen's here, saved
574
00:37:42,093 --> 00:37:43,553
(group laughing)
575
00:37:43,595 --> 00:37:44,929
Hello, Stephen?
576
00:37:44,971 --> 00:37:45,930
- [Sasha] Hi, Stephen.
577
00:37:45,972 --> 00:37:47,682
- [Malcolm] Hello, Stephen.
578
00:37:47,724 --> 00:37:50,477
- [Andy] Why don't we give
Stephen the executive summary.
579
00:37:50,518 --> 00:37:52,395
- Assuming everything is right?
580
00:37:52,437 --> 00:37:53,938
- [Sasha] To be
confirmed I think.
581
00:37:53,980 --> 00:37:57,484
- No, no, you never assume
everything is right.
582
00:37:57,525 --> 00:37:58,985
- [Sasha] To be checked,
everything to be checked.
583
00:37:59,027 --> 00:38:00,445
- [Malcolm] Yeah,
everything to be checked.
584
00:38:00,487 --> 00:38:02,739
- You know, it's the
usual roller coaster,
585
00:38:02,781 --> 00:38:04,574
a few minutes ago
we were very excited
586
00:38:04,616 --> 00:38:08,328
because the central term
came out on the nose
587
00:38:09,579 --> 00:38:13,208
exactly what it needs to
be to get the area law,
588
00:38:15,710 --> 00:38:19,756
then we realized we might
have missed some terms.
589
00:38:24,302 --> 00:38:28,181
Something good seems
to be happening.
590
00:38:28,223 --> 00:38:31,267
But we have our work cut out.
591
00:38:31,309 --> 00:38:34,270
(crickets chirping)
592
00:38:40,068 --> 00:38:41,903
- [Malcolm] There's something
else we might have forgotten.
593
00:38:41,945 --> 00:38:43,571
- [Andy] What?
594
00:38:43,613 --> 00:38:46,783
- [Malcolm] There was a question
of an F plus minus term?
595
00:38:46,825 --> 00:38:48,910
- [Andy] Yeah, I've
been bothered by that.
596
00:38:48,952 --> 00:38:51,412
- [Malcolm] So, it could
be the F plus minus term
597
00:38:51,454 --> 00:38:53,122
takes us away.
598
00:38:53,164 --> 00:38:56,334
- [Andy] Well, what are we
doing about that, because--
599
00:38:56,376 --> 00:38:58,586
- [Sasha] Well I thought
I didn't produce anything
600
00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:02,257
with three derivatives
of epsilon but--
601
00:39:02,298 --> 00:39:05,009
- [Malcolm] We
better check that.
602
00:39:06,344 --> 00:39:09,138
- [Andy] There's a
number we're after.
603
00:39:09,180 --> 00:39:11,975
12 times the angular momentum.
604
00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:13,268
- [Sasha] So I think that is--
605
00:39:13,309 --> 00:39:14,769
- Or divergence of--
606
00:39:14,811 --> 00:39:16,437
- It's so hard to
get the number.
607
00:39:16,479 --> 00:39:19,107
It's really hard
to get the number.
608
00:39:19,148 --> 00:39:21,150
If you do get the number.
609
00:39:22,610 --> 00:39:23,987
- [Malcolm] Up here.
610
00:39:24,028 --> 00:39:25,530
- [Andy] That will tell
you that black holes
611
00:39:25,572 --> 00:39:28,867
have the capacity to
store all the information
612
00:39:29,784 --> 00:39:31,160
that might have been lost.
613
00:39:31,202 --> 00:39:33,454
I think there's a path
in there somewhere.
614
00:39:33,496 --> 00:39:37,041
A giant step towards solving
the information paradox.
615
00:39:37,083 --> 00:39:38,751
- And Malcolm got
from that to this
616
00:39:38,793 --> 00:39:40,879
by integrating by parts,
617
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:42,505
illegally.
- [Andy] Yes.
618
00:39:42,547 --> 00:39:46,009
- [Sasha] But, by using
divergence of a three-form--
619
00:39:46,050 --> 00:39:47,302
- [Andy] You can
do the same thing.
620
00:39:47,343 --> 00:39:48,678
- You can get to
this exact equation
621
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:50,388
and you always have room for--
622
00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:52,515
- [Stephen] How many
conformal killing vectors
623
00:39:52,557 --> 00:39:54,809
on the two sphere?
624
00:39:54,851 --> 00:39:55,894
- [Andy] Three.
625
00:39:55,935 --> 00:39:57,353
- [Stephen] An infinite number.
626
00:39:57,395 --> 00:39:58,187
- Six!
627
00:39:59,814 --> 00:40:02,108
- Stephen is a very
interesting person to work with
628
00:40:02,150 --> 00:40:04,652
because, I guess he's
a man of few words,
629
00:40:04,694 --> 00:40:07,113
so everything he says
is really important.
630
00:40:07,155 --> 00:40:11,034
- Globally well-defined,
strict killing vectors,
631
00:40:11,075 --> 00:40:15,288
there are three of them.
Globally well-defined--
632
00:40:15,330 --> 00:40:17,498
- He'll ask something
which might at first sight
633
00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:19,918
seem to be he's just
clarifying something,
634
00:40:19,959 --> 00:40:21,920
and actually it turns out to be
635
00:40:21,961 --> 00:40:23,755
he's got a slightly
different idea
636
00:40:23,796 --> 00:40:28,468
or he just gives a bit of
his insight or intuition.
637
00:40:28,509 --> 00:40:31,554
Which might then sort
of confuse everybody
638
00:40:31,596 --> 00:40:33,723
and then we realize actually
it's really important.
639
00:40:33,765 --> 00:40:35,058
- So we've been,
640
00:40:36,643 --> 00:40:38,853
we were religiously abiding
by your instructions
641
00:40:38,895 --> 00:40:40,897
to forget about infinity.
642
00:40:44,359 --> 00:40:47,236
I was laying some
groundwork first,
643
00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:50,073
sort of circling the mountain,
644
00:40:50,114 --> 00:40:53,576
trying to figure out which
was the best route to the top.
645
00:40:53,618 --> 00:40:58,039
And Stephen was like, okay,
we're taking this one now.
646
00:41:00,959 --> 00:41:02,335
He's very daring.
647
00:41:03,795 --> 00:41:07,215
He doesn't wanna
spend a lot of time
648
00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:11,302
exploring all the subcases
and different possibilities.
649
00:41:11,344 --> 00:41:14,764
He wants to go for the jugular.
650
00:41:14,806 --> 00:41:17,350
- Would diffeomorphism
give all the entropy?
651
00:41:17,392 --> 00:41:21,145
- Which diffeomorphisms
give you the entropy?
652
00:41:21,187 --> 00:41:23,439
- Ah, so the question is what
are the diffeomorphisms--
653
00:41:23,481 --> 00:41:25,942
This problem is probably
too hard to do on your own,
654
00:41:25,984 --> 00:41:29,070
but different people think
about things in different ways
655
00:41:29,112 --> 00:41:33,074
and well, each brings
their own little bit of it
656
00:41:33,116 --> 00:41:34,659
to the table.
657
00:41:34,701 --> 00:41:38,287
- It's basically E to
the i-n-phi around the...
658
00:41:39,414 --> 00:41:40,665
it's basically---
659
00:41:40,707 --> 00:41:42,792
- E to the i-n-phi but somehow--
660
00:41:42,834 --> 00:41:45,294
- I tend to race to the end
661
00:41:45,336 --> 00:41:47,505
and then try to
fill in the spaces.
662
00:41:47,547 --> 00:41:49,132
- [Producer] Really?
663
00:41:49,173 --> 00:41:51,968
- Which is a methodology
which is particularly prone
664
00:41:52,010 --> 00:41:54,637
to making errors because
you've already decided
665
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:56,764
what answer you want.
666
00:41:56,806 --> 00:41:58,516
(birds chirping)
667
00:41:58,558 --> 00:42:01,894
Whereas Malcolm would
be more likely to just
668
00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:05,398
start from the beginning
and systematically
669
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,359
work through it, which
has the other problem
670
00:42:08,401 --> 00:42:10,111
that if you're not heading
in the right direction,
671
00:42:10,153 --> 00:42:12,488
you'll never get there.
672
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:16,743
So I think we compliment
each other well.
673
00:42:16,784 --> 00:42:19,746
Sasha has been a
fantastic addition.
674
00:42:20,872 --> 00:42:24,333
She started as Malcolm's
graduate student,
675
00:42:25,835 --> 00:42:30,339
then she went from zero to 60
in a rather spectacular way.
676
00:42:33,593 --> 00:42:35,303
- We had it once
and it went away
677
00:42:35,344 --> 00:42:37,972
and we got it again
about 10 days ago
678
00:42:38,014 --> 00:42:40,058
but it's gone away again.
679
00:42:43,227 --> 00:42:45,897
We're on the right track.
680
00:42:45,938 --> 00:42:48,900
But it's turning out to be
monstrously complicated.
681
00:42:48,941 --> 00:42:49,776
- I think let's go this way.
682
00:42:49,817 --> 00:42:51,027
- I'll go that way.
683
00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:52,612
We should've brought
a helicopter.
684
00:42:52,653 --> 00:42:54,363
Well do you wanna
go down that way?
685
00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:55,281
- [Andy] This one, you mean?
686
00:42:55,323 --> 00:42:56,532
- [Malcolm] No.
687
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:15,676
- This was a really convoluted
international shipment
688
00:43:15,718 --> 00:43:18,012
because of what
went on in Chile.
689
00:43:18,054 --> 00:43:19,263
- You know this is
important data, right?
690
00:43:19,305 --> 00:43:20,681
- [Michael] Yes.
691
00:43:20,723 --> 00:43:22,100
- I don't like to hear
the word convoluted
692
00:43:22,141 --> 00:43:25,436
in the same sentence
as your data.
693
00:43:25,478 --> 00:43:27,980
The implement of destruction.
694
00:43:28,022 --> 00:43:30,566
This is freshly delivered data.
695
00:43:33,402 --> 00:43:35,238
All the way from Chile.
696
00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:38,074
Recorder three,
slot two, set two.
697
00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:39,909
- Nicely labeled.
698
00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:40,743
- Vincent?
699
00:43:40,785 --> 00:43:41,786
- Mm-hmm.
700
00:43:41,828 --> 00:43:43,955
- Photons from Chile, frozen.
701
00:43:46,791 --> 00:43:50,086
- When we get the data from
these different telescopes,
702
00:43:50,128 --> 00:43:52,588
the amount of data is immense.
703
00:43:54,006 --> 00:43:56,259
- We really have to
measure every single wave,
704
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,094
every single trough and crest
705
00:43:58,136 --> 00:44:01,889
of the waves as they
come to the telescope.
706
00:44:01,931 --> 00:44:04,600
- We have to record
this faithfully
707
00:44:04,642 --> 00:44:07,270
and then match up
each wave front
708
00:44:07,311 --> 00:44:10,106
with the corresponding
one from another telescope
709
00:44:10,148 --> 00:44:11,566
halfway across the earth.
710
00:44:11,607 --> 00:44:14,193
- Okay, the latest
addition from ALMA.
711
00:44:14,235 --> 00:44:15,945
What else do we have here?
712
00:44:15,987 --> 00:44:18,614
- We are generating about one
and a half petabytes of data
713
00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:20,908
per night of observation.
714
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:21,909
- Okay.
715
00:44:21,951 --> 00:44:23,703
- Yeah, once we cleared--
716
00:44:23,744 --> 00:44:27,582
- By far the largest amount
of data per night of observing
717
00:44:27,623 --> 00:44:31,169
than any physics experiment
in the history of science.
718
00:44:31,210 --> 00:44:33,087
- I wanna see...
719
00:44:33,129 --> 00:44:36,048
Okay, so here's
a whole ALMA set.
720
00:44:36,090 --> 00:44:38,259
We bring all the data back,
721
00:44:38,301 --> 00:44:41,053
all these disk drives
to a super computer,
722
00:44:41,095 --> 00:44:44,974
one is at the MIT
Haystack Observatory,
723
00:44:45,016 --> 00:44:47,059
and the other is at the
Max Planck Institute
724
00:44:47,101 --> 00:44:49,312
for Radio Astronomy
in Bonn, Germany.
725
00:44:49,353 --> 00:44:51,272
Then between these two sites,
726
00:44:51,314 --> 00:44:53,941
we process and handle
all of the data.
727
00:44:53,983 --> 00:44:56,485
This is how you make an
earth-size telescope.
728
00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:58,654
It's like a map of
the entire globe.
729
00:44:58,696 --> 00:45:02,909
So up here we have modules
that were recorded in Mexico.
730
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:06,120
Uh, these are also from
Mexico, this is from Arizona.
731
00:45:06,162 --> 00:45:08,915
Uh, this is from
Spain over here.
732
00:45:08,956 --> 00:45:11,500
Uh, this is from Hawaii.
733
00:45:11,542 --> 00:45:14,253
We cannot do any of the
processing from the South Pole.
734
00:45:14,295 --> 00:45:17,006
The South Pole
station is closed now.
735
00:45:17,048 --> 00:45:20,009
Nothing can land or take off.
736
00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:24,096
All the data is in the
deep freeze until October.
737
00:45:25,806 --> 00:45:28,017
This is where all the
data come together
738
00:45:28,059 --> 00:45:30,895
and we get the
final data products.
739
00:45:30,937 --> 00:45:32,605
So, it's happening.
740
00:45:32,647 --> 00:45:35,107
It's hard to believe after
so long, but it's happening.
741
00:45:35,149 --> 00:45:37,568
- Drop it for now and let's try,
742
00:45:37,610 --> 00:45:40,196
let's just put the baseline in.
743
00:45:42,198 --> 00:45:44,825
- Once you correct
the manual phase cals,
744
00:45:44,867 --> 00:45:49,830
then this will clean up and
even the signal to noise ratio
745
00:45:50,998 --> 00:45:52,750
will go up and the
amplitude will go up.
746
00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:54,710
That is really amazing.
747
00:45:55,878 --> 00:45:58,297
We're getting the
kind of sensitivities
748
00:45:58,339 --> 00:46:01,175
and the resolution
that we have been after
749
00:46:01,217 --> 00:46:02,718
for about a decade.
750
00:46:05,263 --> 00:46:06,764
For me, personally,
751
00:46:08,432 --> 00:46:11,227
this is a moment
of great anxiety.
752
00:46:13,980 --> 00:46:17,942
We've worked for a long
time for this result.
753
00:46:17,984 --> 00:46:21,279
And we don't know
even now what we have.
754
00:46:30,204 --> 00:46:33,249
(soft upbeat music)
755
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,742
- Black holes are out of reach.
756
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:20,249
We do not know if the
equations we're using
757
00:49:20,291 --> 00:49:23,419
actually describes a black hole.
758
00:49:23,461 --> 00:49:26,922
That's what we
cannot directly test,
759
00:49:26,964 --> 00:49:29,258
that's the dilemma we're in.
760
00:49:33,304 --> 00:49:34,972
In my laboratory,
761
00:49:35,014 --> 00:49:39,810
I have a model that mimics
certain features of black holes.
762
00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:42,521
Of course it is not
a real black hole,
763
00:49:42,563 --> 00:49:44,940
it would be pretty dangerous.
764
00:49:47,359 --> 00:49:52,072
What we really have is a
gigantic pool of water.
765
00:49:52,114 --> 00:49:56,494
You get this nice vortex
forming right in the center.
766
00:49:57,953 --> 00:50:00,498
For small fluctuations
on the surface
767
00:50:00,539 --> 00:50:04,001
it should look like a
rotating black hole.
768
00:50:11,008 --> 00:50:14,553
There is physics
associated to the horizon,
769
00:50:16,013 --> 00:50:19,892
light bending, Hawking
radiation, superradiance.
770
00:50:22,353 --> 00:50:25,439
And these are the kinds of
effects we can simulate.
771
00:50:25,481 --> 00:50:29,944
All the effects that happen
outside the event horizon.
772
00:50:32,071 --> 00:50:33,864
And at the end you see an effect
773
00:50:33,906 --> 00:50:35,950
which has been
predicted for many years
774
00:50:35,991 --> 00:50:39,119
without any experimental
confirmation.
775
00:50:40,704 --> 00:50:42,623
That's real physics.
776
00:50:42,665 --> 00:50:44,333
It has been detected.
777
00:50:49,088 --> 00:50:53,175
There is a limit to what we
know about black hole now,
778
00:50:53,217 --> 00:50:55,261
but I'm a scientist,
779
00:50:55,302 --> 00:50:58,681
this is the best
situation you can be in.
780
00:51:01,642 --> 00:51:04,770
We have this universe
in a Petri dish.
781
00:51:05,896 --> 00:51:09,900
And it's holding
fantastic new insights
782
00:51:09,942 --> 00:51:11,986
waiting to be discovered.
783
00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:29,253
- So zeta minus zeta-tilda-Y
784
00:51:29,295 --> 00:51:32,298
and this contains an
epsilon double prime,
785
00:51:32,339 --> 00:51:34,633
that contains an epsilon prime.
786
00:51:34,675 --> 00:51:36,385
- [Andy] So that will
go like one over W plus.
787
00:51:36,427 --> 00:51:38,721
- This goes one over W plus,
788
00:51:41,265 --> 00:51:44,226
which means you got to
compute this thing to W plus,
789
00:51:44,268 --> 00:51:46,645
you're sure there's
not something else?
790
00:51:46,687 --> 00:51:48,063
- No it doesn't.
791
00:51:48,105 --> 00:51:49,648
No, it doesn't because
it's only the one
792
00:51:49,690 --> 00:51:52,735
over W plus term
that can contribute.
793
00:51:55,279 --> 00:51:56,280
- [Malcolm] Right.
794
00:51:56,322 --> 00:51:57,990
We need that one over W plus.
795
00:51:58,032 --> 00:52:00,075
- [Malcolm] So you have to
compute this to order W plus.
796
00:52:00,117 --> 00:52:01,493
- No.
797
00:52:01,535 --> 00:52:03,203
- [Sasha] No, 'cause
you want one over W plus
798
00:52:03,245 --> 00:52:04,413
in the integrand?
799
00:52:04,455 --> 00:52:05,748
- [Malcolm] Oh right, yes.
800
00:52:05,789 --> 00:52:07,750
- Because the range
of W plus is zero.
801
00:52:07,791 --> 00:52:12,338
So if we don't have one over
W plus there, we get zero.
802
00:52:14,381 --> 00:52:16,258
We didn't understand
this in Brinsop.
803
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:19,303
-I guess we did
not understand that.
804
00:52:22,097 --> 00:52:25,017
We thought at Brinsop that
things were relatively simple,
805
00:52:25,059 --> 00:52:27,061
we didn't have to
think about so much,
806
00:52:27,102 --> 00:52:29,980
But since then, we've discovered
all kinds of other things
807
00:52:30,022 --> 00:52:32,566
which do contribute
and complicate matters.
808
00:52:32,608 --> 00:52:36,862
- In Brinsop, we thought
we could do it by hand.
809
00:52:36,904 --> 00:52:38,530
You know, ten pages.
810
00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:45,371
Turns out to be among the most
811
00:52:47,164 --> 00:52:51,502
long calculations that
any of us has done.
812
00:52:51,543 --> 00:52:54,463
- [Malcolm] That's
actually spot on.
813
00:52:57,633 --> 00:52:59,343
- [Sasha] 1050 terms.
814
00:52:59,385 --> 00:53:00,678
- 1050 terms?
815
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,472
You can't do, you
cannot add 1050 terms
816
00:53:05,307 --> 00:53:07,810
without making a single mistake.
817
00:53:07,851 --> 00:53:09,144
Or I can't.
818
00:53:09,186 --> 00:53:10,896
I think that's even
beyond Malcolm.
819
00:53:10,938 --> 00:53:13,232
- [Malcolm] I think I can
do about half of that but--
820
00:53:13,273 --> 00:53:15,359
(Andy laughing)
821
00:53:15,401 --> 00:53:16,819
- So a month ago,
822
00:53:18,237 --> 00:53:22,157
we realized we were gonna
have to use computers.
823
00:53:23,742 --> 00:53:27,329
Essentially adding up
many thousands of terms.
824
00:53:27,371 --> 00:53:30,165
If they all add
up to exactly 12J,
825
00:53:32,167 --> 00:53:35,170
it will mean the hair
that's on the black hole
826
00:53:35,212 --> 00:53:39,675
is enough to completely
reconstruct how it was made.
827
00:53:39,717 --> 00:53:43,178
- That's a long way towards
solving the information paradox.
828
00:53:43,220 --> 00:53:45,931
- We haven't seen
that happening so far.
829
00:53:45,973 --> 00:53:47,975
Which either means that we,
830
00:53:48,016 --> 00:53:50,310
there's a mistake in
our computer program,
831
00:53:50,352 --> 00:53:52,020
a mistake in our input,
832
00:53:52,062 --> 00:53:56,567
or a mistake in our conceptual
analysis of the problem.
833
00:53:56,608 --> 00:54:00,612
And we've been up and down
in our level of optimism.
834
00:54:00,654 --> 00:54:02,364
- We must believe that actually,
835
00:54:02,406 --> 00:54:05,534
it's gonna work out properly
for the very simple reason
836
00:54:05,576 --> 00:54:07,703
that we would not be putting
this much effort into it
837
00:54:07,745 --> 00:54:09,872
if we didn't believe that.
838
00:54:11,415 --> 00:54:12,708
We are putting the effort in.
839
00:54:12,750 --> 00:54:14,501
- We are putting
the effort in, yeah.
840
00:54:14,543 --> 00:54:19,089
- And the reason we're doing
that is because we believe it.
841
00:54:19,131 --> 00:54:23,469
If we didn't believe it
we probably would have--
842
00:54:23,510 --> 00:54:24,553
- [Sasha] Given up months ago.
843
00:54:24,595 --> 00:54:27,306
- Been a bit more discouraged.
844
00:54:27,347 --> 00:54:28,724
- I'm optimistic.
845
00:54:30,934 --> 00:54:34,146
But I think we're
missing something quite,
846
00:54:34,188 --> 00:54:37,357
we're missing a
term or something.
847
00:54:37,399 --> 00:54:38,358
- [Malcolm] Or an idea.
848
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:39,902
- Or an idea or something.
849
00:54:39,943 --> 00:54:43,405
We haven't just not added
things up correctly.
850
00:54:45,616 --> 00:54:50,579
- The information paradox says
that because of black holes,
851
00:54:51,997 --> 00:54:55,793
the universe can't be described
exactly by physical laws.
852
00:55:00,631 --> 00:55:03,175
I'm putting my money
on an idea that
853
00:55:03,217 --> 00:55:05,761
there are physical laws
and that we can figure out
854
00:55:05,803 --> 00:55:06,929
what they are.
855
00:55:09,181 --> 00:55:10,974
But it's not over yet.
856
00:55:18,565 --> 00:55:21,360
(suspense music)
857
00:55:24,112 --> 00:55:27,574
- I think it is interesting
when observations
858
00:55:27,616 --> 00:55:32,496
don't conform to our standard
picture of how things behave.
859
00:55:33,789 --> 00:55:36,375
And that's when
people start to look
860
00:55:36,416 --> 00:55:38,794
for more exotic explanations.
861
00:55:41,338 --> 00:55:45,509
And that's what happened
with the black hole story.
862
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:49,972
Black holes were initially very
863
00:55:50,013 --> 00:55:54,351
esoteric, mathematical,
very hard to accept,
864
00:55:54,393 --> 00:55:57,145
and yet increasingly over time,
865
00:55:57,187 --> 00:56:01,692
there were observations
that didn't make sense.
866
00:56:01,733 --> 00:56:06,446
Black holes were the best
explanation for what was observed.
867
00:56:06,488 --> 00:56:08,156
What was still
quite controversial,
868
00:56:08,198 --> 00:56:09,783
were there super massive
black holes?
869
00:56:09,825 --> 00:56:11,660
The ones that were a
million to a billion times
870
00:56:11,702 --> 00:56:13,328
the mass of the sun.
871
00:56:15,914 --> 00:56:18,292
Maybe all galaxies harbor
super massive black holes
872
00:56:18,333 --> 00:56:19,793
at their cores.
873
00:56:19,835 --> 00:56:21,461
Even our own galaxy.
874
00:56:22,546 --> 00:56:25,215
That was pretty controversial,
875
00:56:25,257 --> 00:56:27,342
and that is certainly the idea
876
00:56:27,384 --> 00:56:29,845
that I got very interested in.
877
00:56:31,889 --> 00:56:34,266
And I had this technique
that I was working on,
878
00:56:34,308 --> 00:56:36,518
my group and then
the group in Germany,
879
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,688
that in principle
could figure it out.
880
00:56:42,065 --> 00:56:44,192
And this was just as
the Keck Observatory
881
00:56:44,234 --> 00:56:46,278
was opening up in Hawaii.
882
00:56:48,906 --> 00:56:51,533
It's kind of amazing
that a very big telescope
883
00:56:51,575 --> 00:56:55,996
let us monkey around with
the instrumentation at all.
884
00:56:57,164 --> 00:56:58,790
And yet it worked.
885
00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:00,250
All of a sudden you could
see the center of the galaxy,
886
00:57:00,292 --> 00:57:03,545
these stars at the
center of the galaxy.
887
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:07,299
And if there's a
black hole there
888
00:57:07,341 --> 00:57:09,051
that has a few million
times the mass of sun,
889
00:57:09,092 --> 00:57:13,847
these things are gonna
move really, really fast.
890
00:57:13,889 --> 00:57:15,974
'95 was our first measurement,
891
00:57:16,016 --> 00:57:18,477
'96 we saw a second picture
892
00:57:18,518 --> 00:57:20,062
and oh my goodness!
893
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,609
Those things were absolutely
not in the same place.
894
00:57:25,651 --> 00:57:27,778
These things were hauling!
895
00:57:29,112 --> 00:57:31,698
'98, '99, it was already clear
896
00:57:31,740 --> 00:57:36,703
that the ones that were really
close were starting to curve.
897
00:57:38,163 --> 00:57:39,665
The curvature gives you a
direction to the black hole.
898
00:57:39,706 --> 00:57:41,291
And we had three stars
that were curving,
899
00:57:41,333 --> 00:57:44,211
so it was like three arrows
900
00:57:44,252 --> 00:57:47,798
and they all intersected
at the same place.
901
00:57:51,301 --> 00:57:53,762
You need something very massive
902
00:57:53,804 --> 00:57:57,182
to drive that kind of
short-period orbit.
903
00:58:01,728 --> 00:58:06,024
It's hard to conceive of
anything else at its center
904
00:58:07,067 --> 00:58:09,945
other than a
super massive black hole.
905
00:58:13,448 --> 00:58:15,075
We're on our way in.
906
00:58:18,453 --> 00:58:20,247
You can just taste it.
907
00:58:32,217 --> 00:58:33,760
- No, I think, Kazu told me--
908
00:58:33,802 --> 00:58:35,262
- [Michael] 345
909
00:58:35,303 --> 00:58:37,180
- Yeah, but Kazu told me
to look at 120 yesterday
910
00:58:37,222 --> 00:58:38,682
and that's why that we
were looking at that one.
911
00:58:38,724 --> 00:58:40,767
- So this is 3C3457
912
00:58:40,809 --> 00:58:42,310
- [Katie] Yeah.
- Okay.
913
00:58:42,352 --> 00:58:44,104
- The fact that we're
aiming so high with the EHT
914
00:58:44,146 --> 00:58:46,815
to see something you know no
one's ever seen before means
915
00:58:46,857 --> 00:58:49,943
we have to develop an
entirely new set of tools.
916
00:58:49,985 --> 00:58:52,612
It's a lot easier to start
with a big field of view.
917
00:58:52,654 --> 00:58:55,657
We have to reconstruct an
image with sufficient fidelity
918
00:58:55,699 --> 00:58:57,409
that we can trust
what we're seeing.
919
00:58:57,451 --> 00:58:59,119
So small and then you get some
weird structuring on there.
920
00:58:59,161 --> 00:59:01,663
- Yeah, anyway, I don't have
it loaded on linear scale
921
00:59:01,705 --> 00:59:03,123
with them all in the same--
922
00:59:03,165 --> 00:59:05,250
When we take a picture
on our camera, right?
923
00:59:05,292 --> 00:59:09,212
You believe that picture
is exactly reality, right?
924
00:59:09,254 --> 00:59:11,339
You actually saw that
with your own eyes
925
00:59:11,381 --> 00:59:13,300
and you can see, oh,
okay, that matches.
926
00:59:13,341 --> 00:59:15,510
When we take a picture
of a black hole,
927
00:59:15,552 --> 00:59:16,845
with the Event
Horizon Telescope,
928
00:59:16,887 --> 00:59:18,305
we don't get to see that,
929
00:59:18,346 --> 00:59:20,515
we don't know if the
picture we generate
930
00:59:20,557 --> 00:59:23,268
is actually what the
black hole looks like.
931
00:59:23,310 --> 00:59:26,646
How do we evaluate
what's the true image?
932
00:59:26,688 --> 00:59:28,106
- So which is right?
933
00:59:28,148 --> 00:59:29,608
What I'm seeing is in general.
934
00:59:29,649 --> 00:59:31,359
Which is right?
935
00:59:31,401 --> 00:59:33,236
You know, people publish--
936
00:59:33,278 --> 00:59:35,655
- One way we approach the
problem is by separating the teams
937
00:59:35,697 --> 00:59:39,201
into different groups that
can't talk to each other.
938
00:59:39,242 --> 00:59:42,037
We generate data from lots
of different kinds of images,
939
00:59:42,079 --> 00:59:43,914
realistic data like we would get
940
00:59:43,955 --> 00:59:45,624
from the Event
Horizon Telescope.
941
00:59:45,665 --> 00:59:48,960
Then release to the community
but without the true image
942
00:59:49,002 --> 00:59:50,712
and we say, do your best job,
943
00:59:50,754 --> 00:59:53,048
get your best image
from this data.
944
00:59:53,090 --> 00:59:55,634
- What happens in Team One room
945
00:59:55,675 --> 00:59:57,969
stays in Team One room, right?
946
00:59:58,011 --> 01:00:00,055
- If I see another team's image,
947
01:00:00,097 --> 01:00:03,308
I might start trying to
push my imaging algorithms,
948
01:00:03,350 --> 01:00:04,976
even subconsciously,
949
01:00:05,018 --> 01:00:06,603
in a direction that would
favor that kind of image.
950
01:00:06,645 --> 01:00:09,397
I mean, look at these
amplitude error bars. (laughs)
951
01:00:09,439 --> 01:00:11,983
We wanna have many
rounds of imaging
952
01:00:12,025 --> 01:00:15,153
and refining that
imaging process
953
01:00:15,195 --> 01:00:17,906
before we actually
compare the images.
954
01:00:17,948 --> 01:00:21,076
- You look at all these different
things with the same data,
955
01:00:21,118 --> 01:00:22,744
it's a cage match--
956
01:00:22,786 --> 01:00:24,621
- And we should be
able to cross-compare
957
01:00:24,663 --> 01:00:26,748
the different algorithms
between the teams.
958
01:00:26,790 --> 01:00:28,959
And if we start getting
convergence on those,
959
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,086
then we'll know that
we're in a good position
960
01:00:31,128 --> 01:00:33,213
to do the same
for Sag-A# and M87
961
01:00:33,255 --> 01:00:35,841
- And here is low
closure amplitude.
962
01:00:35,882 --> 01:00:37,968
There's a really big difference.
963
01:00:38,009 --> 01:00:39,553
- [Sarah] This is
three days apart?
964
01:00:39,594 --> 01:00:42,430
- Yeah, but the source
has not changed that much,
965
01:00:42,472 --> 01:00:44,558
and you cannot change
the speed of light.
966
01:00:44,599 --> 01:00:46,601
- But you know, orange and blue,
967
01:00:46,643 --> 01:00:50,313
that's exactly same
day, exactly same time.
968
01:00:50,355 --> 01:00:51,773
- [Man] Yeah.
969
01:00:51,815 --> 01:00:55,861
- In Team Two, I would
say we had a hard time.
970
01:00:55,902 --> 01:00:59,322
My feeling is that
data are not yet ready,
971
01:01:00,574 --> 01:01:03,243
not yet well-calibrated
972
01:01:03,285 --> 01:01:04,786
for imaging.
973
01:01:04,828 --> 01:01:07,622
So there is still
work to be done.
974
01:01:15,714 --> 01:01:18,175
- I just happened to be
looking at the Guardian website
975
01:01:18,216 --> 01:01:22,846
at around midnight on
the evening of the 13th,
976
01:01:22,888 --> 01:01:24,681
and they announced it.
977
01:01:25,891 --> 01:01:27,184
And that was it.
978
01:01:29,311 --> 01:01:33,023
- We had been talking
about going to see him.
979
01:01:34,274 --> 01:01:37,319
Because we were worried
and because we knew
980
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,363
that the work would
lift his spirits.
981
01:01:42,949 --> 01:01:46,077
- We kept saying as soon
as we get somewhere,
982
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:47,829
we're flying straight
back to the U.K.
983
01:01:47,871 --> 01:01:51,333
to talk to him about it and
discuss the next step with him.
984
01:01:51,374 --> 01:01:52,876
It would have made him
so happy to realize
985
01:01:52,918 --> 01:01:56,838
that we'd got somewhere
with this project.
986
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:01,009
And unfortunately we just
didn't get there in time.
987
01:02:02,219 --> 01:02:03,845
- [Malcolm] We all
think in different ways.
988
01:02:03,887 --> 01:02:05,555
- [Andy] Yeah.
989
01:02:05,597 --> 01:02:08,642
- And he has his own unique
way of thinking about things
990
01:02:08,683 --> 01:02:11,937
and we're not gonna be
allowed to have access
991
01:02:11,978 --> 01:02:15,273
to his mind anymore,
that's a huge loss.
992
01:02:16,483 --> 01:02:19,277
- There's a special
kind of friendship
993
01:02:19,319 --> 01:02:23,949
that grows out of scientific
collaboration and discovery
994
01:02:25,158 --> 01:02:28,286
that's in my experience
like no other.
995
01:02:30,664 --> 01:02:32,540
And to have a you know,
996
01:02:36,711 --> 01:02:40,590
scientific, a productive
scientific interaction
997
01:02:42,926 --> 01:02:45,512
with somebody over many decades
998
01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:49,224
and then lose them,
999
01:02:50,350 --> 01:02:51,309
is very sad.
1000
01:02:52,978 --> 01:02:56,398
It's sad in a different
way than losing a relative
1001
01:02:56,439 --> 01:02:57,274
but it's...
1002
01:03:02,612 --> 01:03:06,908
it's a special thing and
it's very sad to lose that.
1003
01:03:11,538 --> 01:03:14,082
(somber music)
1004
01:03:45,155 --> 01:03:47,532
- You can imagine
if you were floating
1005
01:03:47,574 --> 01:03:50,452
near two black
holes that collided.
1006
01:03:51,911 --> 01:03:55,832
As they orbit, space time
begins to ring in response.
1007
01:03:57,167 --> 01:03:59,586
They're like mallets on a drum.
1008
01:03:59,627 --> 01:04:02,005
The drum is space time itself.
1009
01:04:02,047 --> 01:04:03,506
It begins to ring.
1010
01:04:04,883 --> 01:04:09,346
Gravitational waves, squeezing
and stretching space.
1011
01:04:09,387 --> 01:04:13,600
In principle, they would
pluck your ear drum,
1012
01:04:13,641 --> 01:04:17,645
you would hear them even
though it's empty space.
1013
01:04:22,484 --> 01:04:25,445
Gravitational waves are
actually like a sound
1014
01:04:25,487 --> 01:04:27,781
in the medium of space time.
1015
01:04:33,953 --> 01:04:37,582
And that was the greatest
discovery of 2015.
1016
01:04:38,792 --> 01:04:41,294
The experiment LIGO
recorded the collision
1017
01:04:41,336 --> 01:04:44,172
of two completely
dark black holes.
1018
01:04:48,134 --> 01:04:52,555
The final 1/5 of a second
before the black holes merged
1019
01:04:52,597 --> 01:04:55,433
and went quiet as a
bigger black hole.
1020
01:04:55,475 --> 01:04:57,102
And that's stunning.
1021
01:04:57,143 --> 01:04:59,979
The only evidence we've had
for black holes before then
1022
01:05:00,021 --> 01:05:02,690
was what they do to
their environment.
1023
01:05:02,732 --> 01:05:04,025
This felt direct.
1024
01:05:04,067 --> 01:05:06,861
The first completely
direct evidence
1025
01:05:06,903 --> 01:05:09,364
of not only the
existence of black holes,
1026
01:05:09,406 --> 01:05:12,700
but the existence of
a pair of black holes.
1027
01:05:12,742 --> 01:05:16,329
This signal comes after
traveling over a billion years,
1028
01:05:16,371 --> 01:05:17,997
and they record it.
1029
01:05:18,039 --> 01:05:21,501
Just a spectacular,
spectacular discovery.
1030
01:05:23,336 --> 01:05:25,839
My work very much was
about theoretically
1031
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,465
how black holes collide,
1032
01:05:27,507 --> 01:05:29,551
what it would sound like,
simulating those sounds,
1033
01:05:29,592 --> 01:05:33,888
and understanding the
dynamics of black hole orbits.
1034
01:05:37,434 --> 01:05:38,935
Gravitational waves are so quiet
1035
01:05:38,977 --> 01:05:42,313
by the time that
they reach the earth.
1036
01:05:42,355 --> 01:05:46,484
The experiments only pick
up the final few orbits.
1037
01:05:49,237 --> 01:05:51,990
To dig deeper and
hear the approach,
1038
01:05:52,031 --> 01:05:54,033
my group has been
doing approximations
1039
01:05:54,075 --> 01:05:56,453
of the final several minutes.
1040
01:05:57,787 --> 01:06:00,039
Listening to the longer run-up,
1041
01:06:00,081 --> 01:06:01,416
we can tell if the black holes
1042
01:06:01,458 --> 01:06:03,418
had a more interesting dynamic,
1043
01:06:03,460 --> 01:06:06,421
if it was a more
complicated motion.
1044
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:09,716
So in this case not
only are the black holes
1045
01:06:09,757 --> 01:06:11,176
different masses,
1046
01:06:11,217 --> 01:06:13,928
not only are they on a
more complicated orbit,
1047
01:06:13,970 --> 01:06:16,097
but they're also spinning.
1048
01:06:19,476 --> 01:06:22,437
The system begins
to rotate in space
1049
01:06:24,647 --> 01:06:27,192
and you can hear it get quieter
1050
01:06:27,233 --> 01:06:29,444
as the gravitational waves
are beamed away from you,
1051
01:06:29,486 --> 01:06:32,780
and louder as they're
beamed to you.
1052
01:06:32,822 --> 01:06:35,700
And so these are all
details we can extract
1053
01:06:35,742 --> 01:06:40,497
from the gravitational waves'
sound just by listening.
1054
01:06:40,538 --> 01:06:42,832
And then they get
louder, faster,
1055
01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:45,251
right before they merge.
1056
01:06:45,293 --> 01:06:49,422
And then it goes quiet
as one big black hole.
1057
01:06:49,464 --> 01:06:51,341
There is a human pleasure
1058
01:06:51,382 --> 01:06:54,677
in being able to
experience, viscerally,
1059
01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:58,014
a recording like that.
1060
01:06:58,056 --> 01:07:02,435
In some sense, making
black holes more real.
1061
01:07:02,477 --> 01:07:05,688
What a remarkable
time to be alive
1062
01:07:05,730 --> 01:07:09,067
to actually be on that
cusp of not knowing,
1063
01:07:09,108 --> 01:07:10,818
and then discovering.
1064
01:07:19,953 --> 01:07:20,745
- Hmm.
1065
01:07:27,377 --> 01:07:30,338
All right guys, we're
gonna release the data.
1066
01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:31,422
- [Lady] Whoo!
1067
01:07:31,464 --> 01:07:33,925
- Big moment, let's do it then.
1068
01:07:33,967 --> 01:07:35,718
Okay, I'm including everybody
1069
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,097
in the entire
collaboration on this note.
1070
01:07:39,138 --> 01:07:42,016
- The end goal is to have
this snapshot of reality,
1071
01:07:42,058 --> 01:07:44,936
how a black hole really looks.
1072
01:07:44,978 --> 01:07:46,521
Black holes at the
center of galaxies
1073
01:07:46,563 --> 01:07:49,190
are bathed in this
hot glowing plasma,
1074
01:07:49,232 --> 01:07:51,568
and so there's light coming
from behind the black hole
1075
01:07:51,609 --> 01:07:54,404
and in front of it
and every which way.
1076
01:07:54,445 --> 01:07:56,114
They curve their
space time so much
1077
01:07:56,155 --> 01:07:58,533
that even light from
behind the black hole
1078
01:07:58,575 --> 01:08:02,287
can be bent around them
to reach the observer.
1079
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:07,750
You can imagine some of the
photons would be far enough away
1080
01:08:07,792 --> 01:08:09,210
they'd just come to you.
1081
01:08:09,252 --> 01:08:11,379
Some of them would be
close to the horizon
1082
01:08:11,421 --> 01:08:13,715
and they get bent inward.
1083
01:08:13,756 --> 01:08:15,091
And some of them
would be too close
1084
01:08:15,133 --> 01:08:18,720
and they'd fall
into the black hole.
1085
01:08:18,761 --> 01:08:21,723
And so the shadow of the black
hole is this circular area
1086
01:08:21,764 --> 01:08:23,349
of diminished brightness
1087
01:08:23,391 --> 01:08:26,060
with this bright ring around it.
1088
01:08:26,102 --> 01:08:29,063
It's really a special thing
that there's such a concrete
1089
01:08:29,105 --> 01:08:31,566
prediction for something
that no one's ever seen.
1090
01:08:31,608 --> 01:08:33,067
- [Katie] You know, if
you're making an image,
1091
01:08:33,109 --> 01:08:34,986
you have to come
in the other room.
1092
01:08:35,028 --> 01:08:36,404
- [Michael] Okay.
1093
01:08:36,446 --> 01:08:37,447
- [Katie] So we all
start at the same time.
1094
01:08:37,488 --> 01:08:39,282
- [Michael] Team One imagers.
1095
01:08:39,324 --> 01:08:41,534
- Okay, which day has the
best coverage by the way?
1096
01:08:41,576 --> 01:08:43,244
I'm doing 3601.
1097
01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:44,662
- [Andrew] I was
gonna do 3601 for now.
1098
01:08:44,704 --> 01:08:45,705
- [Michael] Same.
1099
01:08:45,747 --> 01:08:47,248
- [Katie] Okay, are we ready?
1100
01:08:47,290 --> 01:08:48,416
- [Andrew] I'm giddy.
1101
01:08:48,458 --> 01:08:49,751
- [Katie] Oh, my God, wait,
1102
01:08:49,792 --> 01:08:51,294
should we close the
door, are we ready?
1103
01:08:51,336 --> 01:08:53,630
- Wait, what is happening?
1104
01:08:53,671 --> 01:08:55,256
- [Katie] We're trying to
make an image right now!
1105
01:08:55,298 --> 01:08:58,926
- Can we just pace
things a little bit?
1106
01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:01,429
- Well no, first of all.
1107
01:09:01,471 --> 01:09:03,306
- Shep, close the door.
1108
01:09:03,348 --> 01:09:04,265
- [Shep] Oh, my God.
1109
01:09:04,307 --> 01:09:05,516
- Can we start Michael?
1110
01:09:05,558 --> 01:09:06,517
You don't have to start--
1111
01:09:06,559 --> 01:09:08,186
- Let's wait for Michael
1112
01:09:08,227 --> 01:09:10,521
- [Michael] Can we just go
on our little trajectories
1113
01:09:10,563 --> 01:09:13,441
and you know meet
up in 20 minutes.
1114
01:09:13,483 --> 01:09:14,734
- [Daniel] No.
1115
01:09:14,776 --> 01:09:16,819
- I just think it's
like a big moment
1116
01:09:16,861 --> 01:09:20,281
and I think for me,
I'm just saying like,
1117
01:09:21,783 --> 01:09:23,785
I think it'd be fun for us all
to do the first one together,
1118
01:09:23,826 --> 01:09:27,288
see that shit, and then go
off in our own little ways
1119
01:09:27,330 --> 01:09:28,873
and fix it.
1120
01:09:28,915 --> 01:09:30,458
I mean, I think it's just
so exciting that you,
1121
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:31,834
do you wanna do it alone?
1122
01:09:31,876 --> 01:09:33,294
- [Shep] I'd like to
see it all together
1123
01:09:33,336 --> 01:09:35,088
so we can kind of get
some idea of the data.
1124
01:09:35,129 --> 01:09:36,130
- [Katie] Are we ready?
1125
01:09:36,172 --> 01:09:37,757
- [Man] Ready.
- Ready.
1126
01:09:37,799 --> 01:09:39,967
- [Katie] Ready? It's not
gonna work at all. (laughs)
1127
01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:41,552
- [Andrew] Enhance,
enhance, enhance.
1128
01:09:41,594 --> 01:09:42,929
- [Katie] Ready?
1129
01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:44,263
- [Andrew] Set.
1130
01:09:44,305 --> 01:09:45,556
- [Katie] Go!
1131
01:09:45,598 --> 01:09:48,142
Oh, my God, oh my
God, we pressed go.
1132
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:51,938
- [Andrew] It's just a waffle.
1133
01:09:51,979 --> 01:09:55,608
- Ah, that looks really,
really interesting.
1134
01:09:59,487 --> 01:10:00,947
How's the waffling going?
1135
01:10:00,988 --> 01:10:02,323
- [Katie] Andrew's
looks beautiful
1136
01:10:02,365 --> 01:10:06,953
but there's no tweaking
involved. (laughs)
1137
01:10:06,994 --> 01:10:10,164
- [Andrew] I put
compactness very high.
1138
01:10:11,374 --> 01:10:12,667
- [Michael] Daniel and
I were both getting
1139
01:10:12,709 --> 01:10:13,876
something like this with--
1140
01:10:13,918 --> 01:10:15,461
- I know, okay.
1141
01:10:15,503 --> 01:10:17,255
That's what I get when
I use only closure.
1142
01:10:17,296 --> 01:10:18,589
- [Shep] Only closure?
1143
01:10:18,631 --> 01:10:21,175
- Oh, my God, look
at the chi squares.
1144
01:10:21,217 --> 01:10:22,927
- [Shep] That's pretty good.
1145
01:10:22,969 --> 01:10:25,847
- [Michael] And then this is,
after a few more iterations,
1146
01:10:25,888 --> 01:10:28,516
it smooths it out and gets rid
of some of the extended junk.
1147
01:10:28,558 --> 01:10:29,767
- [Shep] And this
is all on low-band?
1148
01:10:29,809 --> 01:10:30,852
- Yeah
1149
01:10:30,893 --> 01:10:32,353
- [Shep] Is this only one day?
1150
01:10:32,395 --> 01:10:33,896
- This only one day.
1151
01:10:33,938 --> 01:10:34,897
- [Shep] It'll work.
1152
01:10:34,939 --> 01:10:36,858
- That's pretty suggestive.
1153
01:10:36,899 --> 01:10:38,568
- [Andrew] Well, it seems--
1154
01:10:38,609 --> 01:10:40,111
- [Shep] Did you remove these
outliers in the amplitude?
1155
01:10:40,153 --> 01:10:41,612
- I didn't touch anything.
1156
01:10:41,654 --> 01:10:44,073
- [Shep] That is very cool guys.
1157
01:10:44,115 --> 01:10:46,033
It's really, really cool.
1158
01:10:46,075 --> 01:10:47,326
Wait, which one is that?
1159
01:10:47,368 --> 01:10:48,995
- [Andrew] This
is Katie's image.
1160
01:10:49,036 --> 01:10:50,872
- [Katie] See it looks
different though,
1161
01:10:50,913 --> 01:10:54,625
because you guys have a
bright spot more on this side.
1162
01:10:54,667 --> 01:10:56,294
- [Michael] Okay, seriously?
1163
01:10:56,335 --> 01:10:58,379
Look, we're all getting
kind of a crescent
1164
01:10:58,421 --> 01:11:01,382
that's about the right size--
1165
01:11:01,424 --> 01:11:03,593
- [Shep] So what is the
size on that, it's like--
1166
01:11:03,634 --> 01:11:05,219
- This is about 40.
1167
01:11:06,429 --> 01:11:07,680
- [Shep] That's when you expect
1168
01:11:07,722 --> 01:11:11,392
if M87 has six
billion solar masses.
1169
01:11:11,434 --> 01:11:12,769
- [Michael] That's
a high mass case.
1170
01:11:12,810 --> 01:11:14,103
- [Shep] You know what this is?
1171
01:11:14,145 --> 01:11:16,314
This is a scale to
weigh black holes.
1172
01:11:16,355 --> 01:11:17,857
- [Michael] Okay, seriously
if we can get anything
1173
01:11:17,899 --> 01:11:20,109
that looks remotely like
that on all the days--
1174
01:11:20,151 --> 01:11:22,069
- [Shep] Guys, the only way
anyone's leaving this room
1175
01:11:22,111 --> 01:11:24,739
is if everybody gets over
there so we take a picture.
1176
01:11:24,781 --> 01:11:26,199
- It could have been awful.
1177
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,911
- Am I short enough that
I can just stand here?
1178
01:11:30,953 --> 01:11:33,748
- You gotta get the thing.
1179
01:11:33,790 --> 01:11:35,750
We're at a point now
1180
01:11:35,792 --> 01:11:39,212
where things could
inadvertently go south.
1181
01:11:39,253 --> 01:11:42,381
Okay, so I took a
picture on my phone,
1182
01:11:42,423 --> 01:11:44,008
of something on the screen.
1183
01:11:44,050 --> 01:11:45,343
- Okay see you guys tomorrow,
1184
01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:46,803
we'll do some more
imaging tomorrow.
1185
01:11:46,844 --> 01:11:49,138
All it's gonna take is
for one of these images
1186
01:11:49,180 --> 01:11:51,682
to be texted to
the wrong person,
1187
01:11:51,724 --> 01:11:52,975
people will look at it,
1188
01:11:53,017 --> 01:11:54,936
they will measure
it off of a screen,
1189
01:11:54,977 --> 01:11:56,646
they'll go write a paper.
1190
01:11:56,687 --> 01:11:58,689
I guarantee you.
1191
01:11:58,731 --> 01:12:03,110
There has to be an
absolute, 100% embargo.
1192
01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:07,448
No one outside the EHT
collaboration can see anything,
1193
01:12:07,490 --> 01:12:09,951
anything that happens here
1194
01:12:09,992 --> 01:12:12,078
can never leave Team One.
1195
01:12:14,622 --> 01:12:16,040
This is pretty wild.
1196
01:12:16,082 --> 01:12:17,542
It's all wrong, I'm
sure it's all wrong,
1197
01:12:17,583 --> 01:12:19,377
but if that works out,
1198
01:12:21,003 --> 01:12:22,630
it's pretty amazing.
1199
01:12:50,199 --> 01:12:52,159
- Things are going well.
1200
01:12:53,369 --> 01:12:56,163
We think that we
have managed to do
1201
01:12:56,205 --> 01:12:58,165
this part of the project.
1202
01:13:03,713 --> 01:13:07,508
We've managed to get our
target answer of 12J.
1203
01:13:11,512 --> 01:13:14,140
There's a little bit left to do.
1204
01:13:25,109 --> 01:13:29,906
- [Andy] I think the only
thing that matters is 3.5.
1205
01:13:29,947 --> 01:13:30,907
- [Malcolm] 3.57?
1206
01:13:30,948 --> 01:13:32,074
- [Andy] Yeah.
1207
01:13:36,579 --> 01:13:38,039
- Good to see you.
1208
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:40,082
- [Andy] Hey Sasha?
1209
01:13:40,124 --> 01:13:41,834
- Oh hey, you're here already.
1210
01:13:41,876 --> 01:13:44,837
- Yeah, we've already done like
five pages of calculations,
1211
01:13:44,879 --> 01:13:45,671
you're late.
1212
01:13:45,713 --> 01:13:48,424
(Malcolm laughs)
1213
01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:52,261
You're allowed to
put your stuff away
1214
01:13:52,303 --> 01:13:54,221
and go to the bed.
1215
01:13:54,263 --> 01:13:56,390
That's alright, I'm needed.
1216
01:13:56,432 --> 01:13:57,516
- [Malcolm] No time for that?
1217
01:13:57,558 --> 01:13:58,351
- Nope.
1218
01:14:00,394 --> 01:14:02,146
- [Andy] Okay, uh--
1219
01:14:02,188 --> 01:14:03,689
- [Sasha] So where are we at?
1220
01:14:03,731 --> 01:14:06,275
Like, what still
needs to be done?
1221
01:14:06,317 --> 01:14:08,569
- The only things I see now
1222
01:14:09,779 --> 01:14:13,783
is understanding this
G plus minus to the P.
1223
01:14:13,824 --> 01:14:16,160
- [Sasha] Yep.
- Right, and the past horizon?
1224
01:14:16,202 --> 01:14:17,244
- And the past horizon.
1225
01:14:17,286 --> 01:14:18,663
Does anybody see anything else?
1226
01:14:18,704 --> 01:14:19,997
- No, that's it.
1227
01:14:22,875 --> 01:14:25,920
- Back at Brinsop, one year on.
1228
01:14:25,962 --> 01:14:28,089
Last year we thought it'd
be pretty plain sailing,
1229
01:14:28,130 --> 01:14:30,341
we would spend a few
more weeks then we'd just
1230
01:14:30,383 --> 01:14:32,593
sum up all these terms and
get the answer we wanted.
1231
01:14:32,635 --> 01:14:35,096
And then over the course
of last year we realized,
1232
01:14:35,137 --> 01:14:37,139
actually it's so much more
complicated than that.
1233
01:14:37,181 --> 01:14:39,767
T-left, over T-right plus T-left
1234
01:14:39,809 --> 01:14:41,185
We found there were
millions of terms
1235
01:14:41,227 --> 01:14:42,603
and it was never going
be a two-week job,
1236
01:14:42,645 --> 01:14:44,605
and we got out computers
for the first time,
1237
01:14:44,647 --> 01:14:47,108
and that didn't work.
1238
01:14:47,149 --> 01:14:48,192
- One over.
1239
01:14:49,902 --> 01:14:51,445
- And then, what we realized
is that you can actually
1240
01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:52,905
break this equation we had.
1241
01:14:52,947 --> 01:14:54,824
We could break it down
into an integrable part
1242
01:14:54,865 --> 01:14:56,325
and a non-integrable part.
1243
01:14:56,367 --> 01:14:58,828
I think that was
the breakthrough.
1244
01:14:58,869 --> 01:15:00,287
We had to realize that
1245
01:15:00,329 --> 01:15:02,206
we had almost
everything we needed,
1246
01:15:02,248 --> 01:15:04,166
but there was somehow
1247
01:15:04,208 --> 01:15:05,835
a few terms got lost I guess.
1248
01:15:05,876 --> 01:15:07,253
N, D, here.
1249
01:15:07,294 --> 01:15:09,839
What we've discovered
is that the equation
1250
01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,925
is the sum of the variation
of the inertia charge
1251
01:15:12,967 --> 01:15:16,762
and the variation of the
angular velocity of the horizon.
1252
01:15:16,804 --> 01:15:19,473
Which when evaluated
you get 12J.
1253
01:15:21,017 --> 01:15:22,560
Before, we just had
a few of the terms
1254
01:15:22,601 --> 01:15:25,312
involved in the angular
velocity of the horizon.
1255
01:15:25,354 --> 01:15:29,400
And without the full thing,
it wasn't integrable.
1256
01:15:30,568 --> 01:15:32,945
Now we've found a
nice physical picture
1257
01:15:32,987 --> 01:15:34,989
and a nice way of getting 12J
1258
01:15:35,031 --> 01:15:37,950
and now's the final, you
know, finishing touches,
1259
01:15:37,992 --> 01:15:41,454
to make sure that we
really believe in it.
1260
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:44,874
I'm just very sad that
Stephen won't be able
1261
01:15:44,915 --> 01:15:47,168
to see this through to the end.
1262
01:15:47,209 --> 01:15:50,671
He would have been
really, really excited.
1263
01:15:53,257 --> 01:15:57,011
- It's weird how personal
physics can become.
1264
01:15:58,888 --> 01:16:02,141
One of the saddest things
about Stephen's passing
1265
01:16:02,183 --> 01:16:04,769
in the middle of this is that,
1266
01:16:04,810 --> 01:16:07,021
if it works we can't tell him.
1267
01:16:07,063 --> 01:16:09,815
- [Malcolm] One
bottle in front--
1268
01:16:12,902 --> 01:16:14,361
- To Stephen.
1269
01:16:14,403 --> 01:16:16,113
- [Group] To Stephen.
1270
01:16:16,155 --> 01:16:20,367
- One of the impressive and
wonderful things about Stephen,
1271
01:16:20,409 --> 01:16:24,663
was how much he really
cared about these questions.
1272
01:16:31,504 --> 01:16:33,297
We know that it's
somehow very different
1273
01:16:33,339 --> 01:16:35,257
inside a black hole.
1274
01:16:35,299 --> 01:16:40,096
And so the prize is a really
big one if you figure it out.
1275
01:16:42,264 --> 01:16:44,225
The nature of space time.
1276
01:16:47,770 --> 01:16:49,480
- That's about right.
1277
01:16:52,274 --> 01:16:56,403
- Hawking handed us the
biggest clue that we have.
1278
01:16:58,781 --> 01:17:01,575
If this project
we're on now works,
1279
01:17:04,078 --> 01:17:07,081
it will be like a
giant sign post,
1280
01:17:07,123 --> 01:17:09,667
there's gold in this direction.
1281
01:17:11,836 --> 01:17:14,296
You look up in the night sky
1282
01:17:14,338 --> 01:17:17,091
and of course you
don't see them.
1283
01:17:18,676 --> 01:17:21,929
But you know they're up there.
1284
01:17:21,971 --> 01:17:23,430
Almost mocking us,
1285
01:17:25,307 --> 01:17:27,101
try and figure me out.
1286
01:17:37,278 --> 01:17:38,571
- [Heino] I just
wanna check my audio.
1287
01:17:38,612 --> 01:17:40,322
- [Kazu] Ah, can you hear me?
1288
01:17:40,364 --> 01:17:41,615
- [Heino] Yeah, I can hear you.
1289
01:17:41,657 --> 01:17:42,783
- [Kazu] Hi Monica,
can you hear us?
1290
01:17:42,825 --> 01:17:43,868
- (Monica) I can
hear you, hello?
1291
01:17:43,909 --> 01:17:45,578
- Okay, so I just wanna start,
1292
01:17:45,619 --> 01:17:50,207
the first telecon actually
showing the first images of M87.
1293
01:17:51,125 --> 01:17:53,460
All images are very consistent,
1294
01:17:53,502 --> 01:17:56,005
there is a shadow-like feature.
1295
01:17:56,046 --> 01:17:58,841
Really really
encouraging results.
1296
01:18:00,342 --> 01:18:04,430
- Wow, it worked, I mean,
it definitely worked.
1297
01:18:04,471 --> 01:18:05,764
We see the ring.
1298
01:18:07,474 --> 01:18:10,519
And then you've got to be
very skeptical, actually.
1299
01:18:10,561 --> 01:18:12,021
You know, I would
love to see that thing
1300
01:18:12,062 --> 01:18:14,106
and that's what makes
me very suspicious
1301
01:18:14,148 --> 01:18:16,442
about myself and what I see.
1302
01:18:16,483 --> 01:18:18,694
I think it's okay to call
that a shadow feature,
1303
01:18:18,736 --> 01:18:21,155
if you like, as you
see in the middle,
1304
01:18:21,197 --> 01:18:24,825
but we should be really careful
of what we think we see.
1305
01:18:24,867 --> 01:18:27,161
- Are we going to see
other teams' images?
1306
01:18:27,203 --> 01:18:28,787
- No, no, no, no.
1307
01:18:28,829 --> 01:18:31,832
When we meet at imaging
workshop to inspect images
1308
01:18:31,874 --> 01:18:33,667
from each team.
1309
01:18:33,709 --> 01:18:37,046
I could not sleep last night
because I was so excited.
1310
01:18:37,087 --> 01:18:39,215
I mean, I've waited
for this data set
1311
01:18:39,256 --> 01:18:41,383
and this image for eight years.
1312
01:18:41,425 --> 01:18:44,053
- I'm really happy that we're
all getting pretty consistent
1313
01:18:44,094 --> 01:18:46,347
results and I'm excited to see
1314
01:18:46,388 --> 01:18:48,224
what the other teams are doing.
1315
01:18:48,265 --> 01:18:50,893
We all kept pretty good secrets.
1316
01:18:52,895 --> 01:18:54,980
- Imaging Team
Three has been doing
1317
01:18:55,022 --> 01:18:57,691
mostly the standard technique
1318
01:18:57,733 --> 01:19:01,028
where we use this
algorithm called Clean.
1319
01:19:02,238 --> 01:19:04,615
We have about half
a dozen individuals
1320
01:19:04,657 --> 01:19:07,660
on the team who are
making the images.
1321
01:19:07,701 --> 01:19:12,665
The central part of the image
we're in general agreement on.
1322
01:19:13,916 --> 01:19:15,542
It'll be interesting to
see what the other teams
1323
01:19:15,584 --> 01:19:17,836
using maximum entropy and
some of the other methods,
1324
01:19:17,878 --> 01:19:20,547
what they got next week.
1325
01:19:20,589 --> 01:19:23,717
We hope that they
will be consistent.
1326
01:19:23,759 --> 01:19:25,719
We're trying to be very,
very careful about it.
1327
01:19:25,761 --> 01:19:28,055
The worse thing would be to say
1328
01:19:28,097 --> 01:19:31,350
that we've seen black hole
shadow and then find out later
1329
01:19:31,392 --> 01:19:33,602
it was an imaging artifact.
1330
01:19:35,187 --> 01:19:37,064
- [Katie] Right now
within Team One,
1331
01:19:37,106 --> 01:19:38,857
we feel pretty confident
in the structures
1332
01:19:38,899 --> 01:19:41,235
that we're getting.
1333
01:19:41,277 --> 01:19:42,528
- We are feeling pretty good
1334
01:19:42,569 --> 01:19:44,196
about our consistency
in our images,
1335
01:19:44,238 --> 01:19:47,241
but we haven't seen anything
from the other teams, so,
1336
01:19:47,283 --> 01:19:50,327
it's possible that everything
will be a complete mess
1337
01:19:50,369 --> 01:19:51,745
when comparing
between the teams.
1338
01:19:51,787 --> 01:19:52,997
- And I'm a little scared
1339
01:19:53,038 --> 01:19:55,374
for what is our
plan moving forward
1340
01:19:55,416 --> 01:19:56,917
if we do get different images.
1341
01:19:56,959 --> 01:19:57,751
- Yeah.
1342
01:20:04,591 --> 01:20:05,634
- Good morning?
1343
01:20:05,676 --> 01:20:06,468
- How's it going.
1344
01:20:06,510 --> 01:20:07,636
- Pretty good.
1345
01:20:11,932 --> 01:20:14,935
(indistinct chatter)
1346
01:20:21,483 --> 01:20:22,443
Okay, I look forward to it.
1347
01:20:22,484 --> 01:20:24,028
I'll be right downstairs--
1348
01:20:24,069 --> 01:20:25,029
- Hey?
- Hey.
1349
01:20:25,070 --> 01:20:26,071
- Nice to meet you finally.
1350
01:20:26,113 --> 01:20:27,573
- Likewise.
- I'm Katie.
1351
01:20:27,614 --> 01:20:28,949
Nice to meet you.
1352
01:20:29,950 --> 01:20:31,827
Thanks for coming all this way.
1353
01:20:31,869 --> 01:20:34,663
(suspense music)
1354
01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:44,173
- This is an incredibly
exciting moment.
1355
01:20:44,214 --> 01:20:46,216
For the first time we're
gonna see if all the teams
1356
01:20:46,258 --> 01:20:47,926
are seeing the same
basic structure.
1357
01:20:47,968 --> 01:20:50,304
I have not seen any of the
results from anywhere else.
1358
01:20:50,346 --> 01:20:54,308
So this is really a Christmas,
Hanukkah moment, right?
1359
01:20:54,350 --> 01:20:55,768
This is when you unpack,
1360
01:20:55,809 --> 01:20:58,562
this is when you open
up the gifts you know.
1361
01:20:58,604 --> 01:21:00,147
Did you get a
pony? I don't know.
1362
01:21:00,189 --> 01:21:01,815
- And then I self-calibrated
1363
01:21:01,857 --> 01:21:04,026
and then amplitude
plus closure phase.
1364
01:21:04,068 --> 01:21:05,110
- [Shep] Okay
1365
01:21:05,152 --> 01:21:07,863
- I had a little bit goosebumps.
1366
01:21:07,905 --> 01:21:12,868
I've been waiting for this
moment for like ten years.
1367
01:21:14,036 --> 01:21:16,163
I've been modeling black
holes for ten years,
1368
01:21:16,205 --> 01:21:19,333
and finally it becomes real.
1369
01:21:19,375 --> 01:21:20,918
- Let's see what we could do
1370
01:21:20,959 --> 01:21:24,254
if we were to just use
the exact same script
1371
01:21:24,296 --> 01:21:26,673
without changing anything,
without any fine tuning,
1372
01:21:26,715 --> 01:21:28,717
to see what it will do.
1373
01:21:28,759 --> 01:21:29,676
- [Joseph] Okay, that would
be very interesting to see.
1374
01:21:29,718 --> 01:21:31,053
Just out of curiosity.
1375
01:21:31,095 --> 01:21:34,348
To see if we can come
up with one script
1376
01:21:34,390 --> 01:21:35,432
that could consistently--
1377
01:21:35,474 --> 01:21:37,017
- All on microarcsecond scale.
1378
01:21:37,059 --> 01:21:39,395
So it does seem like
kind of filling in
1379
01:21:39,436 --> 01:21:41,939
the vacuum with more.
1380
01:21:41,980 --> 01:21:43,899
So I guess we have two options
1381
01:21:43,941 --> 01:21:46,068
for response to zero baseline.
1382
01:21:46,110 --> 01:21:47,861
And in both it's
producing more or less
1383
01:21:47,903 --> 01:21:49,363
the same image, right?
1384
01:21:49,405 --> 01:21:52,408
- It doesn't make any
sense to use it in that.
1385
01:21:52,449 --> 01:21:55,953
- It does actually, they
do bring extra information.
1386
01:21:55,994 --> 01:21:58,372
- But it could be completely
extraneous information
1387
01:21:58,414 --> 01:22:00,207
- Michael, I still
haven't received an image
1388
01:22:00,249 --> 01:22:02,876
from Team Three,
should I bug them?
1389
01:22:02,918 --> 01:22:03,710
Okay.
1390
01:22:05,087 --> 01:22:06,505
- It's gonna be much much worse.
1391
01:22:06,547 --> 01:22:07,631
- Okay.
1392
01:22:07,673 --> 01:22:09,216
- Sorry, real quick.
1393
01:22:09,258 --> 01:22:11,969
How much longer do you
need before you're ready?
1394
01:22:12,010 --> 01:22:13,720
-Um, I don't know...
1395
01:22:14,847 --> 01:22:16,473
- [Michael] Like 15 minutes?
1396
01:22:16,515 --> 01:22:17,891
- Sure, if everything goes
smoothly here, 15 minutes.
1397
01:22:17,933 --> 01:22:19,726
- [Michael] How long
does Team Three need?
1398
01:22:19,768 --> 01:22:21,687
- Couple of minutes
if it is working.
1399
01:22:21,728 --> 01:22:23,313
- Let's just do that,
1400
01:22:23,355 --> 01:22:24,940
you can see the numbers,
if they look fine to you.
1401
01:22:24,982 --> 01:22:25,774
- Okay.
1402
01:22:28,527 --> 01:22:31,155
(door knocking)
1403
01:22:35,659 --> 01:22:36,660
- [Man] Hey, are you--
1404
01:22:36,702 --> 01:22:38,871
- I'm ready, I'm ready, yeah.
1405
01:22:40,581 --> 01:22:43,584
(indistinct chatter)
1406
01:22:44,835 --> 01:22:48,172
All right, so first
we did a normalized
1407
01:22:48,213 --> 01:22:51,425
cross-correlation comparison
between all of the images.
1408
01:22:51,467 --> 01:22:55,137
A value of one is gonna
be a perfect consistency
1409
01:22:55,179 --> 01:22:58,390
between two images,
zero is pretty bad.
1410
01:22:58,432 --> 01:23:00,058
So are we ready for
the moment of truth?
1411
01:23:00,100 --> 01:23:03,604
(group applauding)
1412
01:23:03,645 --> 01:23:05,814
Okay, I will scroll down.
1413
01:23:05,856 --> 01:23:06,732
- [Lady] Oh my God.
1414
01:23:06,773 --> 01:23:08,192
- [Man] Look at that.
1415
01:23:08,233 --> 01:23:09,234
- [Group] Wow.
1416
01:23:09,276 --> 01:23:12,154
(group applauding)
1417
01:23:13,906 --> 01:23:15,449
- [Katie] It's M87.
1418
01:23:17,117 --> 01:23:20,120
We compared, basically
pixel by pixel,
1419
01:23:20,162 --> 01:23:23,790
you know, how close
the images were.
1420
01:23:23,832 --> 01:23:26,627
We haven't talked at
all among the teams
1421
01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:29,129
but these numbers tell
us that despite that,
1422
01:23:29,171 --> 01:23:31,548
we're all broadly seeing
the exact same structure,
1423
01:23:31,590 --> 01:23:33,592
so it's really promising.
1424
01:23:33,634 --> 01:23:36,512
(group applauding)
1425
01:23:39,014 --> 01:23:42,100
- It was surprisingly emotional.
1426
01:23:42,142 --> 01:23:44,686
You know it from a
mathematical point of view
1427
01:23:44,728 --> 01:23:46,605
and we've been looking at
pictures quite similar to that
1428
01:23:46,647 --> 01:23:49,149
from our own models
but when you look at it
1429
01:23:49,191 --> 01:23:52,194
and you have to tell yourself
that it's actually data,
1430
01:23:52,236 --> 01:23:54,238
that you're not
seeing a simulation
1431
01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:56,573
but you're really
looking at a black hole.
1432
01:23:56,615 --> 01:23:58,450
I found myself just
with my cell phone
1433
01:23:58,492 --> 01:24:00,369
staring at it for hours.
1434
01:24:02,621 --> 01:24:04,498
What's gonna have
to happen now is,
1435
01:24:04,540 --> 01:24:09,086
the whole collaboration has
to come together and agree.
1436
01:24:12,548 --> 01:24:15,467
- [Heino] It's the
same latitude as ALMA.
1437
01:24:15,509 --> 01:24:19,012
- This is a very, very
critical phase of the project.
1438
01:24:19,054 --> 01:24:20,764
We have to bring
very different people
1439
01:24:20,806 --> 01:24:22,599
with very different
backgrounds together
1440
01:24:22,641 --> 01:24:25,852
to agree on something
that will be work
1441
01:24:27,563 --> 01:24:30,357
representative of
200, 250 people.
1442
01:24:31,733 --> 01:24:33,318
- That's a great question.
1443
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,529
I think that what would be best.
1444
01:24:35,571 --> 01:24:38,198
It's very easy to
lose your credibility.
1445
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,075
And the Event Horizon
Telescope has built up
1446
01:24:40,117 --> 01:24:42,411
credibility over many years.
1447
01:24:43,328 --> 01:24:45,289
We have to get it right.
1448
01:24:47,583 --> 01:24:51,503
- How do you decide
what's the key essence?
1449
01:24:51,545 --> 01:24:53,463
What do we all agree on?
1450
01:24:53,505 --> 01:24:56,758
This has been a discussion
and it's been contentious.
1451
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,761
And it's probably
not fully decided.
1452
01:25:01,555 --> 01:25:04,516
Yes, we do wanna
have a single image
1453
01:25:05,684 --> 01:25:07,436
but we do wanna show
the variations as well.
1454
01:25:07,477 --> 01:25:09,229
- [Katie] Yes, it's a compromise
we have to come up with--
1455
01:25:09,271 --> 01:25:11,023
- Yeah, I know, I mean,
something that works.
1456
01:25:11,064 --> 01:25:11,940
- Yeah.
1457
01:25:11,982 --> 01:25:13,317
- That thing that works.
1458
01:25:13,358 --> 01:25:15,485
- I think it's not
what we want to show.
1459
01:25:15,527 --> 01:25:19,114
I think we should go
for the best data set
1460
01:25:19,156 --> 01:25:21,408
and the best image of this,
1461
01:25:21,450 --> 01:25:24,953
easily reproducible for anybody
who wants to do it again.
1462
01:25:24,995 --> 01:25:27,122
- I kind of like
the average image
1463
01:25:27,164 --> 01:25:29,916
but since it's not
consistent with any data,
1464
01:25:29,958 --> 01:25:32,419
are we going to use this
image to do for instance,
1465
01:25:32,461 --> 01:25:34,338
a parameter estimation?
1466
01:25:37,883 --> 01:25:40,135
- Everybody came in
with their own funding,
1467
01:25:40,177 --> 01:25:42,012
their own expectations,
1468
01:25:42,054 --> 01:25:44,181
so it is all about
convincing each other
1469
01:25:44,222 --> 01:25:46,683
and coercing each other
to find one way forward.
1470
01:25:46,725 --> 01:25:51,021
I mean, do you think there
are unmodeled systematics
1471
01:25:51,938 --> 01:25:52,939
in the synthetic data?
1472
01:25:52,981 --> 01:25:54,608
That made it very democratic,
1473
01:25:54,650 --> 01:25:56,610
but it's not easy,
1474
01:25:56,652 --> 01:25:57,903
I will not lie.
1475
01:26:00,322 --> 01:26:03,116
(suspense music)
1476
01:26:12,209 --> 01:26:14,294
- [Ramesh] I think the
dream of any physicist
1477
01:26:14,336 --> 01:26:18,715
who studies black holes is
to be able to go through
1478
01:26:18,757 --> 01:26:21,551
the horizon and
to the other side.
1479
01:26:27,349 --> 01:26:29,476
If I could take this trip,
1480
01:26:30,977 --> 01:26:35,273
having decided that I've
had enough of this world,
1481
01:26:35,315 --> 01:26:36,692
what would I see?
1482
01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:50,080
- [Shep] Just as ancient
explorers were drawn to the sea,
1483
01:26:50,122 --> 01:26:52,332
we're drawn to the horizon.
1484
01:26:55,377 --> 01:26:58,130
We're drawn always
to the limits.
1485
01:27:04,177 --> 01:27:07,472
- [Andy] The horizon
of a black hole
1486
01:27:07,514 --> 01:27:09,891
is the edge of our knowledge,
1487
01:27:11,935 --> 01:27:15,021
of our understanding
of the universe.
1488
01:27:17,274 --> 01:27:21,987
And the great exciting problem
is to go beyond that edge.
1489
01:27:28,368 --> 01:27:30,203
- [Shep] That's the ultimate.
1490
01:27:30,245 --> 01:27:33,582
That's the place where
there's no beyond.
1491
01:27:41,506 --> 01:27:43,049
- [Heino] It's something
that doesn't exist
1492
01:27:43,091 --> 01:27:46,887
as a physical, measurable
part of the universe.
1493
01:27:48,597 --> 01:27:53,393
But you personally could still
go there and experience it.
1494
01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:57,314
But you cannot tell anybody.
1495
01:27:59,149 --> 01:28:02,819
You don't exist anymore
to the outside world.
1496
01:28:05,655 --> 01:28:09,743
People always make the
link intuitively to death.
1497
01:28:32,766 --> 01:28:35,393
(Skype chiming)
1498
01:28:43,026 --> 01:28:45,612
There they are, smiling.
1499
01:28:45,654 --> 01:28:48,031
It's nice to see you again.
1500
01:28:48,073 --> 01:28:49,783
Miss you guys, miss you guys.
1501
01:28:49,825 --> 01:28:50,951
So we're free.
1502
01:28:53,370 --> 01:28:55,956
We've finished the paper.
1503
01:28:55,997 --> 01:28:57,791
(Andy, Sasha and
Malcolm laughing)
1504
01:28:57,833 --> 01:29:00,126
That's why everybody's smiling.
1505
01:29:00,168 --> 01:29:01,962
I'm feeling pretty good.
1506
01:29:02,003 --> 01:29:04,589
- I must say I'm
feeling amazingly good.
1507
01:29:04,631 --> 01:29:07,133
Simply because it has taken
an amazingly long time
1508
01:29:07,175 --> 01:29:08,677
to actually get done.
1509
01:29:08,718 --> 01:29:09,719
- It's a great relief.
1510
01:29:09,761 --> 01:29:11,513
(Malcolm laughing)
1511
01:29:11,555 --> 01:29:14,641
It's nice to be able to think
about the bigger picture
1512
01:29:14,683 --> 01:29:15,892
a bit more.
1513
01:29:15,934 --> 01:29:17,102
I feel like, I
spent a lot of time
1514
01:29:17,143 --> 01:29:18,687
getting really bogged down in--
1515
01:29:18,728 --> 01:29:19,813
- You feel liberated?
1516
01:29:19,855 --> 01:29:21,273
- Yeah, I feel liberated,
1517
01:29:21,314 --> 01:29:23,149
to be able to work out
more what's going on,
1518
01:29:23,191 --> 01:29:28,154
and I feel like the result
we have is very compelling.
1519
01:29:29,406 --> 01:29:31,950
- We've shown that the
soft hair can account
1520
01:29:33,660 --> 01:29:38,123
for all the information
that's stored in a black hole.
1521
01:29:39,541 --> 01:29:43,128
But we have to be very
smart about what to do next.
1522
01:29:43,169 --> 01:29:44,963
- [Malcolm] Yeah,
absolutely right.
1523
01:29:45,005 --> 01:29:48,300
- The big challenge
is trying to show
1524
01:29:48,341 --> 01:29:50,343
not only that this could happen,
1525
01:29:50,385 --> 01:29:53,889
but that it does happen and
that there's a mechanism
1526
01:29:53,930 --> 01:29:58,894
for the flow of information
in and out of the black hole.
1527
01:30:00,145 --> 01:30:02,689
That is a much more
complicated problem.
1528
01:30:02,731 --> 01:30:05,317
That's what Stephen would
want us to be doing.
1529
01:30:05,358 --> 01:30:07,611
(Malcolm and Sasha laughs)
1530
01:30:07,652 --> 01:30:09,362
- [Malcolm] I mean look, look,
1531
01:30:09,404 --> 01:30:14,284
Are you coming to this
press release on the 15th?
1532
01:30:14,326 --> 01:30:15,118
- Uhm.
1533
01:30:16,077 --> 01:30:17,495
- I'm hesitating.
1534
01:30:18,580 --> 01:30:21,374
(suspense music)
1535
01:30:34,429 --> 01:30:36,222
- Well, good afternoon.
1536
01:30:36,264 --> 01:30:38,391
Welcome to the press
launch of the final book
1537
01:30:38,433 --> 01:30:40,852
by Professor Stephen Hawking.
1538
01:30:40,894 --> 01:30:43,063
Now up until his death
he continued to search
1539
01:30:43,104 --> 01:30:45,231
for answers with
his final paper,
1540
01:30:45,273 --> 01:30:47,901
a work with his
long-time collaborators,
1541
01:30:47,943 --> 01:30:50,946
Professors Malcolm Perry
and Andy Strominger,
1542
01:30:50,987 --> 01:30:53,073
on one of the most
puzzling problems
1543
01:30:53,114 --> 01:30:55,617
facing the scientific
community today,
1544
01:30:55,659 --> 01:30:58,411
the information paradox.
1545
01:30:58,453 --> 01:31:02,165
So Malcolm, Andy, give us a
capsule summary of the paper.
1546
01:31:02,207 --> 01:31:04,668
- Yeah, you know,
it's a huge problem
1547
01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:06,670
that Stephen gave to us.
1548
01:31:08,254 --> 01:31:12,133
It took 50 years to understand
what a black hole was
1549
01:31:12,175 --> 01:31:14,302
before you started
worrying about the--
1550
01:31:14,344 --> 01:31:16,638
It'll be a decade before we know
1551
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:20,725
whether this path is gonna
get us where we wanna go.
1552
01:31:20,767 --> 01:31:23,937
We also don't know
that it can't.
1553
01:31:23,979 --> 01:31:28,483
And, I also have to confess,
not very scientific of me,
1554
01:31:29,567 --> 01:31:31,361
it has the right feel.
1555
01:31:33,488 --> 01:31:37,784
I'm very excited to be part
of this grand adventure.
1556
01:31:43,039 --> 01:31:44,040
- To Stephen.
1557
01:31:44,082 --> 01:31:45,709
- To Stephen.
1558
01:31:45,750 --> 01:31:46,793
- To soft hair.
1559
01:31:46,835 --> 01:31:48,003
- To soft hair.
1560
01:31:49,462 --> 01:31:53,383
And to the demise of
the information paradox.
1561
01:31:53,425 --> 01:31:55,343
- And to the next paper.
1562
01:31:58,138 --> 01:31:59,556
It's a great life.
1563
01:32:00,598 --> 01:32:02,559
It's what life is about.
1564
01:32:09,733 --> 01:32:12,485
(engine roaring)
1565
01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:17,073
(suspense music)
1566
01:32:45,226 --> 01:32:48,313
(indistinct chatter)
1567
01:32:53,818 --> 01:32:55,695
- That is good, yeah.
1568
01:32:55,737 --> 01:32:57,489
- I feel the same way.
1569
01:32:58,615 --> 01:33:01,326
(suspense music)
1570
01:33:06,581 --> 01:33:09,918
- Hey, welcome to
today's press conference.
1571
01:33:09,959 --> 01:33:12,337
Brought to you by the
National Science Foundation
1572
01:33:12,378 --> 01:33:13,254
and the Event Horizon--
1573
01:33:13,296 --> 01:33:14,964
- Good afternoon.
1574
01:33:15,006 --> 01:33:17,425
We have very little time
before the actual announcement
1575
01:33:17,467 --> 01:33:19,511
goes live across the globe,
1576
01:33:19,552 --> 01:33:22,222
in six simultaneous press
conferences, so I will--
1577
01:33:22,263 --> 01:33:25,642
- Buenos dias a todos, today
is an extraordinary day
1578
01:33:25,683 --> 01:33:27,102
for astronomy.
1579
01:33:27,143 --> 01:33:28,186
We are--
1580
01:33:28,228 --> 01:33:31,064
(speaking in foreign language)
1581
01:33:31,106 --> 01:33:34,651
- What you're seeing
here is a result
1582
01:33:34,692 --> 01:33:38,363
of many, many people
working together.
1583
01:33:38,404 --> 01:33:41,741
- Thank you, assembled guests,
black hole enthusiasts.
1584
01:33:41,783 --> 01:33:45,829
Black holes are the most
mysterious objects in the universe.
1585
01:33:45,870 --> 01:33:48,873
Now, we are members of
a large collaboration.
1586
01:33:48,915 --> 01:33:52,252
We are 200 members strong,
we have 60 institutes,
1587
01:33:52,293 --> 01:33:55,296
and we are working in over
20 countries and regions.
1588
01:33:55,338 --> 01:33:59,050
We worked for over a decade
to expose part of the universe
1589
01:33:59,092 --> 01:34:01,261
that was invisible to us before.
1590
01:34:01,302 --> 01:34:04,681
And we are delighted to be
able to report to you today
1591
01:34:04,722 --> 01:34:09,102
that we have seen what
we thought was unseeable.
1592
01:34:09,144 --> 01:34:13,273
We have seen, and taken a
picture of a black hole.
1593
01:34:15,733 --> 01:34:16,609
Here it is.
1594
01:34:20,446 --> 01:34:22,490
We now have visual evidence
1595
01:34:22,532 --> 01:34:25,201
for the existence
of a black hole.
1596
01:34:25,243 --> 01:34:26,953
We now know that
1597
01:34:26,995 --> 01:34:29,289
a black hole that weighs 6.5
billion times what our sun does
1598
01:34:29,330 --> 01:34:31,624
exists in the center of M87.
1599
01:34:33,835 --> 01:34:36,254
And this is just the beginning.
1600
01:34:36,296 --> 01:34:37,964
(audience applauding)
1601
01:34:38,006 --> 01:34:39,048
- [Man] Thank you.
1602
01:34:39,090 --> 01:34:42,969
(audience applauding continues)
1603
01:34:56,399 --> 01:34:59,110
(suspense music)
1604
01:35:46,115 --> 01:35:49,744
(gentle instrumental music)
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