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There was an idea.
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The idea was to bring together a group
of remarkable people
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to see if they could become
something more.
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I never put all my chips
on that number, though
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because I was playing
something even riskier.
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Back in the day, I had eyes everywhere.
Ears, everywhere else.
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All the tech you could dream up.
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Here we all are, back on Earth...
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with nothing but our wit
and our will to save the world.
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We have no idea what other
intergalactic threats are out there.
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I was ten toes in this thing
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when you were still
singing nursery rhymes.
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I've been having conversations
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about a Nick Fury series
for a long time.
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So, when it came up or came about
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that they were going to do
Secret Invasion,
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I was chuffed about it
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and not knowing what the story was,
I had to go back and find
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that particular story line
in the comic books.
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This doesn't necessarily follow that,
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but once, you know,
we started dealing with the Skrulls
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and the Kree in Captain Marvel,
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that's when things started
to kind of bubble in that particular way.
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Don't kill me.
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That would really
complicate the situation
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I'm about five seconds
from complicating that wall
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with some ugly-ass Skrull brain.
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I'm sorry I simmed your boss,
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but now I stand before you
as my true self.
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Without deception.
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In Captain Marvel,
what we learn about the Skrulls
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is that they have been persecuted
by the Kree
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for many generations,
that their home world has been blown up
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and they are scattered across the cosmos
as refugees in search of a home planet.
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You're good to go here until you recover,
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but you and your family
are going to need a new look.
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I could go back to being your boss.
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Please don't.
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It felt like there was more story there,
and what we sort of came to was,
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what if the end of Captain Marvel
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is Captain Marvel leading the Skrulls
into the galaxy
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to find a new home world?
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And what if she just failed?
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What if there was no new home world?
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And that felt like a starting point
for sort of the...
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The turning of trust
into anger and hatred.
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We've been helping you for all these years
to ensure that you kept your promise.
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But after The Blip,
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you were different.
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And then you disappeared.
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Talos is a Skrull.
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Nick Fury is obviously a human,
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and he's tasked with preventing
this Skrull invasion.
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Can he trust his...
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One of his dearest friends
in that process?
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Can Talos trust Nick Fury?
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So trust and, you know,
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the flip side of that,
having faith in people,
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having faith in your friends,
even when it's very tough to do so
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is at the heart of the story.
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You've got nine minutes and counting
to figure out which side you're on!
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We wanted to take Nick Fury
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and put him in a genre, in a structure
in which he would shine.
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And Nick doesn't have superpowers.
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His superpower is his brain
and his force of will.
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And those are things
that come through really well
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in a spy thriller.
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We talked about it being
a kind of a non-Marvel Marvel show.
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We wanted to really
dial into Fury, the man.
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You know, I may not know
when a Skrull is pretending to be a human,
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but I sure as hell know
when a human is lying.
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Whatever we think about
his trench coat and his eye patch,
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and how cool Sam Jackson is,
Nick Fury is a human,
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a human with a certain kind of power,
but not a superpower like Captain Marvel.
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Making friends with the locals?
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How do you think
we kept the Cold War from going hot?
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I, as an individual,
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I'm sort of charismatic, I think.
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I can be fun.
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I can be intimidating.
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I can be all the things
that Nick Fury needs to be.
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His superpower is his persuasiveness
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and his fearlessness.
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I'm Nick Fury.
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Even when I'm out, I'm in.
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The thing that excites me
about this project, Secret Invasion,
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is that you get to see
another side of him.
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He's gotten older
since we last saw him.
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He's been living up on S.A.B.E.R.,
his specially made space station.
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So he's been detached as well,
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and we wanted to show what it looked like
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for Fury a few years older,
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to come down and to have to re-acclimate.
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Let's just say I had a crisis of faith.
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So why'd you come back?
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It followed me up there,
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and I owe it to Talos.
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At the start of Episode 1,
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I think he arrives back on Earth
not sure quite what to expect,
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and what his role will be.
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And we wanted to use something
that made him look softer.
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We used a cut of tailoring in a coat
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that had a softer shoulder
to give him a more broken look.
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Although we kept elements
of Fury's original style,
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the collar is always popped.
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But using a wool meant that
it's more sympathetic to camera.
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Wool absorbs light differently to leather,
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so everything about him
was a bit less commanding.
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The gravitas of Nick's journey
is such that
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when we get towards
the penultimate episode,
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we need him to gather all his strength
and go forward to save the world
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and so that's what he does.
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And he moves from a dark, heavy coat
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to the black leather coat
and the eye patch,
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something that represents
the Fury of old that we know.
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So in working in Secret Invasion,
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we really wanted to bring back a lot
of our familiar faces within the MCU.
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Listen to me. I am here to help you.
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You know, I had to pinch myself
many mornings
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when I would step on set with Sam Jackson,
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Don Cheadle, Ben Mendelsohn.
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Some of my favorite actors in the world.
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How's that? You loved that, didn't ya?
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Ben, I got to know a little bit
when he was Talos in Captain Marvel.
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It was such a fun, cool,
amazing emotional character
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that it was a no-brainer
to bring him back for Secret Invasion.
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She's cheeky.
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Yeah, 'till she sees
an ugly-ass Skrull like you.
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Then she goes into hunting mode.
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I'm considered good-looking
amongst my kind there.
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In Captain Marvel,
the original brief
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was that Talos died in about Page 64.
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Once we started working,
the plan changed a little bit.
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Was it something I said?
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Once he was sticking around,
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there was a relationship
which developed with Fury.
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Go on, talk to her. She's your type.
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All right, if you're done.
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You always know just what to say.
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He was a lot of fun.
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And he brings this really...
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He brings this verve
to this whole Skrull thing.
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Cut that. Let's reset. One more, please.
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One more? That was amazing.
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Again, again? You want it again? Cut.
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That was the best one.
That was the best ending. We got it.
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It is one of the great
pleasures of my working life
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to have an onscreen banter relationship
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with a character
that's being played by Samuel L. Jackson.
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- I'm working with Sam Jackson.
- Break the window.
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- I'm working with Sam Jackson.
- So, A-cam, we lost video.
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Every day
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I started my journey
with Marvel, gosh, probably a decade ago.
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It was on the first Avengers film.
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So I went in and read for "female agent."
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And I don't know
how I weaseled my way into this role,
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but I can't believe ten years later,
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you know, she's still
running around with Nick Fury.
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You gonna move?
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I haven't decided.
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See, that's what I'm worried about.
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The Fury I knew
was always three steps ahead.
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I was excited when I read the scripts
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that we got to see Maria
sort of more in action.
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- Drop the bags.
- I can't do that.
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You don't have a choice, sweetheart.
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We shot in here yesterday.
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It was a pretty quick fight
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as we had to, to make it
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because Maria Hill is no match
for sweet Emilia Clarke.
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Where'd he go?
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She.
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Depending on how well you remember
the events of Captain Marvel,
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you may remember Talos
reconnecting with his daughter,
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who's been hidden from him for many years.
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That daughter, years later,
has become G'iah.
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Last warning!
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It's what you always say
but there's always another.
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G'iah.
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Working with Ben Mendelsohn
is the joy of my life.
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I was so nervous about meeting him
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because me and my friends
had a Ben Mendelsohn fan club.
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We're obsessed with him as an actor.
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There are certain actors
that are actors' actors to watch,
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and he is 100%, like,
top of the tree with that.
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I didn't know what to expect,
but what I got
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was this magical human
who just wants to play
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and is so intuitive and is so much fun.
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You know what?
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It's all falling apart for me.
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- Let me just check out on this.
- They've always stopped coming.
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You act with people,
you get a...
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You get an idea of who they are.
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It's not always right,
but you get an idea.
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And Emilia really blew me away.
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She's like fresh air.
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Just, you know, really knocked me over.
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- One and done.
- There aren't many of those here, mate.
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- I'm telling you that.
- It's beautiful.
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- No worries.
- Respect.
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With G'iah, throughout the show,
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you sort of see her go on a journey
of self-discovery as a woman,
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but also a journey of self-discovery
as a person.
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What her beliefs really are, are tested.
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And...
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She's a general's daughter,
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so there's a responsibility there.
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And it's the kind of question of
will she accept it or not?
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You don't see me because I'm not here.
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I understand you're taking a risk.
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A risk?
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Is that what you explained to Mum,
that following you could get her killed?
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Your mother died
while you were working for her killer.
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With someone like Gravik,
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what was most interesting
about exploring him is that
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someone who has that impulse
towards violence and destruction,
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who also has such a high IQ
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is the most dangerous.
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You know the difference
between statesmen and soldiers.
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One lot spends the war
posing for pictures,
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while the other does all the killing
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and the dying.
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Krell made his decision when he signed on
to your delusional war against the house.
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You know, I would be doing us both a favor
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if I just put you out of your misery.
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For me, the key into that
was the destruction of his planet
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and then coming to Earth
and then trusting in Fury
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and then giving him 30 years
and still nothing.
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Enough's enough. Now I teach.
Now I'm the teacher.
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Kingsley brings
an incredible energy
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and a real interrogation of who Gravik is
and why Gravik is,
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and he brings
a great amount of power to it.
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And he's very heartfelt.
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You ask me, Talos,
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choice between having my story told
in ink and oil paint,
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or having it written in blood.
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I choose blood all day long.
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There's a hurt that has calcified
into his madness and his rage,
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and I think he's playing
those things wonderfully.
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He's absolutely the Gravik
that I had in mind.
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That's what this is all about, isn't it?
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You're gonna take our people
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to the edge of extinction
with the war with the humans.
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All these miscreants know
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is murder.
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Look how they treat each other.
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That's what's gonna happen.
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We're gonna murder them all.
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Secret Invasion takes place
in the real world and a real world.
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It's not alien planets.
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It's not starships far away.
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It's not other dimensions.
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It is Earth and Earth is the stakes.
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And that allows us to do a lot for real.
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Our production designer, Frank Walsh,
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has constructed
some amazing real world sets.
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I do like to have
very kind of tangible kind of sets
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that you feel you can see the dirt on.
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So you can touch something
that feels very real.
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I definitely wanted to kind of
create worlds in camera
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and not relying a lot on visual effects.
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The script was asking some amazing sets
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from the safe houses in Moscow,
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which kind of harks back
to very kind of early thrillers, you know,
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up to reactor room in Skrull Town.
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So it was kind of a broad spectrum
of sets to design
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from very gritty places to very high end.
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But probably the biggest set piece
we will do is this Unity Day festival.
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We're in Piece Hall
in Halifax, West Yorkshire.
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We have recreated
a central square in Moscow
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that is celebrating Unity Day,
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which Gravik decided to attack or bomb
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during a time
when there are more people here.
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It's enormous. We had 250 extras.
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The square could probably
contain 5,000 people to make it look full.
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And so we used those 250
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and we tiled the floor with them,
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moved them around
in different configurations,
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so when we get a wide shot of the square,
it looks like it's really full
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like Times Square on New Year's Eve.
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There are explosions that go off
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and we've built,
thanks to John Van Der Pool,
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the special effects guy, we've built
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bombs that explode with air and fire
and throws debris out
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so it looks like buildings are breaking.
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This was a busy week for us.
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It's quite involved because
we're actually using compressed air,
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so as to keep the noise down with
a lot of very ancient windows around us
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and confined space.
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So we're using high pressure air mortars
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and we're using small explosives
linked with propane gas.
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We release propane gas
and then ignite it to give us a fireball.
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Bit more labor intensive,
but hopefully we'll get the right effect.
295
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I think we'll probably do
ten explosions over the weeks,
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especially with an effect like this
with so many variables,
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not just from our point of view
but from actors, from cameras,
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we're always prepared to do
more than one take.
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Three, two, one, action!
300
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Fury, Talos, what's your status?
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One of the kind of
just important decisions
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that we had to make early on
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was how to really illustrate the scale
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and the reality of the danger
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that Gravik and his rebels
pose to humans.
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And to do that, we couldn't allow
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all of our characters
to make it out safely.
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This is a contest for the planet.
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It's being fought on the ground
and it's gonna be bloody.
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There will be casualties in this conflict,
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and that means making, you know,
those tough decisions
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to say goodbye to beloved characters.
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Hill!
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It's a wrap. That's a wrap on...
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On this big day.
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We were out in the square
and there was multiple explosions
317
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and there was chaos and madness and...
318
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And in all of that,
Nick Fury was looking for Maria Hill,
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and Gravik got to her first
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and shape-shifted into the form of Fury
and shot Maria Hill,
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in the... In the gut.
322
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In the gut right there.
323
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I've enjoyed my time
with Sam immensely, and...
324
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And being his partner
in all these adventures
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and it's somewhat poetic
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that he's the one who I think
kills me, but isn't. It's...
327
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It's going to leave his character
in a very dark place.
328
00:17:17,786 --> 00:17:21,331
With the death of Maria Hill,
he now understands
329
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this is personal between him and Gravik.
330
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I think the real question is,
is Fury capable?
331
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Like, is Fury still Fury,
332
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or has he lost it?
333
00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:35,179
I think Thanos's snap changed you.
334
00:17:35,262 --> 00:17:38,015
Taught you that no matter
how hard you fight for what's right,
335
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there's always someone stronger
to undermine you.
336
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We are at Hatfield House
outside of London,
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and this is the location for
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the Russian townhouse of Sonya,
339
00:18:00,704 --> 00:18:04,541
who is the MI6 counterpart of Nick Fury.
340
00:18:04,625 --> 00:18:07,586
Back in the day, you would've seen
my rather mediocre bag men
341
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coming a mile away.
342
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The fact that you didn't see them coming
343
00:18:11,423 --> 00:18:14,134
means you sure as hell won't see
Gravik and his rebels coming.
344
00:18:14,218 --> 00:18:16,303
Which makes you as a partner
rather pointless.
345
00:18:16,386 --> 00:18:19,264
I don't need to say anything
about Olivia Colman as an actor
346
00:18:19,348 --> 00:18:21,016
because everybody already knows.
347
00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:23,435
She's one of the greatest
living actors in the world
348
00:18:23,519 --> 00:18:26,021
who brings a sense of fun and adventure,
349
00:18:26,105 --> 00:18:28,190
and this amazing spirit
to everything she does.
350
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Alone at last.
351
00:18:29,608 --> 00:18:32,027
Now, shall we do this
the easy way or the other way?
352
00:18:33,112 --> 00:18:35,364
I know after every Marvel film released,
353
00:18:35,447 --> 00:18:39,868
I would phone my agent and say,
"Please, can I be in a Marvel?"
354
00:18:40,285 --> 00:18:42,454
But I don't know
if that actually is how it happened,
355
00:18:42,538 --> 00:18:44,790
but I got a call and said, "Yes."
356
00:18:44,873 --> 00:18:48,335
I just really, really,
really love working with her after...
357
00:18:48,418 --> 00:18:50,754
after watching her
in so many wonderful things
358
00:18:50,838 --> 00:18:53,257
and knowing what kind of actor she was.
359
00:18:53,340 --> 00:18:55,509
I was so excited and so nervous.
360
00:18:55,592 --> 00:18:59,054
Like proper kneecap jelly
when I knew I was going to meet him.
361
00:18:59,471 --> 00:19:00,806
And he was just so lovely.
362
00:19:00,889 --> 00:19:04,268
I think we might have even both gone
when we met.
363
00:19:04,476 --> 00:19:06,103
- Ooh!
- That was amazing!
364
00:19:06,562 --> 00:19:08,480
He called my sneakers dope.
365
00:19:09,773 --> 00:19:11,650
I don't think I took them off for a year.
366
00:19:11,733 --> 00:19:14,027
It's one of those things
where I've always known,
367
00:19:14,111 --> 00:19:16,321
you know, from watching her
368
00:19:16,405 --> 00:19:20,033
that as serious and as convincing
369
00:19:20,117 --> 00:19:23,370
and as honest
as her work is when you see it,
370
00:19:24,079 --> 00:19:26,874
you can see the twinkle in her eye
that's fun.
371
00:19:26,957 --> 00:19:31,336
She is a very fun, fun actor
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that, you know, like me,
this is sort of a playground for her.
373
00:19:35,048 --> 00:19:38,844
She wants to come to work
and do this thing that we do.
374
00:19:38,927 --> 00:19:43,265
And the better you are at it,
the better she becomes at it,
375
00:19:43,348 --> 00:19:46,393
and the more you engage with her,
376
00:19:46,476 --> 00:19:49,855
the more, you know, we give each other
and the scenes become even fuller.
377
00:19:49,938 --> 00:19:51,857
Well, they do say Darwin never sleeps.
378
00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:56,403
Let's give our extinction a nice leg up.
379
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:59,698
While Nick is relatively
sympathetic to the Skrulls
380
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and has been working with them
for a long time,
381
00:20:02,159 --> 00:20:03,368
Sonya is not,
382
00:20:03,452 --> 00:20:06,538
and will go scorched-earth
in order to protect Britain and the world.
383
00:20:06,622 --> 00:20:09,917
I've thrown everything at him
and he hasn't said a word.
384
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:12,002
What makes you think
you can get him to speak?
385
00:20:12,085 --> 00:20:13,629
I can be quite persuasive.
386
00:20:14,129 --> 00:20:19,676
So, today, we've been shooting
a scene where Sonya is torturing Brogan
387
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,387
because he's a Skrull
388
00:20:23,222 --> 00:20:27,059
and there's some good ones, some bad ones,
and she likes to find out who's who.
389
00:20:27,142 --> 00:20:29,603
So she chops off his finger.
390
00:20:29,686 --> 00:20:32,147
We watch the human finger
turn to Skrull so she knows,
391
00:20:32,314 --> 00:20:34,483
"Okay, he's one of them." And then,
392
00:20:34,566 --> 00:20:37,653
tortures him with this injection,
which makes his blood cook.
393
00:20:38,528 --> 00:20:43,533
And then she kicks him over off his chair
so that she can get to the escape hatch.
394
00:20:43,617 --> 00:20:45,577
Sounds like your lift is here.
395
00:20:47,412 --> 00:20:50,624
So I had to kick Brogan over
off his chair,
396
00:20:50,707 --> 00:20:53,168
and I'm quite ashamed
at how much I enjoyed it.
397
00:20:53,252 --> 00:20:56,380
I really enjoyed it.
398
00:20:56,463 --> 00:20:59,508
But it's just so exciting to come on set,
on a Marvel set,
399
00:21:00,259 --> 00:21:03,178
and there's gadgets and torture things
400
00:21:03,262 --> 00:21:07,432
and liquids that make people bubble.
I love it. It's really fun.
401
00:21:07,975 --> 00:21:09,101
What'd you tell 'em?
402
00:21:09,184 --> 00:21:11,061
Nothin', just lies.
403
00:21:11,395 --> 00:21:12,437
Nothin'?
404
00:21:12,813 --> 00:21:13,897
Just lies?
405
00:21:14,523 --> 00:21:15,941
That's all, I swear.
406
00:21:17,943 --> 00:21:21,530
Gravik has come up with
a version of the classic chaos theory,
407
00:21:21,613 --> 00:21:23,865
which comes from many types of warfare,
408
00:21:23,949 --> 00:21:25,575
specifically, Skrull warfare,
409
00:21:25,659 --> 00:21:28,787
where you get your enemies
to fight against each other
410
00:21:28,870 --> 00:21:31,790
and reduce their numbers
so that then you can come in
411
00:21:31,873 --> 00:21:33,625
and either finish them off
412
00:21:34,251 --> 00:21:36,211
or just turn them into refugees
and take over.
413
00:21:36,295 --> 00:21:38,338
You've got all these European crybabies.
414
00:21:38,422 --> 00:21:40,841
They're all saying
we had something to do with Moscow.
415
00:21:40,924 --> 00:21:42,759
Well, I call bull on that.
416
00:21:43,051 --> 00:21:44,177
I see no evidence.
417
00:21:44,261 --> 00:21:47,264
There's no way the Moscow attacks
were committed by Americans.
418
00:21:47,347 --> 00:21:49,016
What are you hearing, Senator Byers?
419
00:21:49,099 --> 00:21:53,270
For us to feel like
we could reasonably and believably,
420
00:21:53,353 --> 00:21:55,939
explore this idea of sowing world chaos,
421
00:21:56,023 --> 00:22:00,485
we really felt that the rebel Skrulls
had to infiltrate on a global capacity.
422
00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:03,530
That means infiltrating
different countries,
423
00:22:03,613 --> 00:22:06,158
governments, businesses, communities.
424
00:22:06,241 --> 00:22:09,453
Colonel, are you denying
that two of your citizens,
425
00:22:09,536 --> 00:22:12,998
Mr. Nicholas Fury and Miss Maria Hill,
426
00:22:13,081 --> 00:22:16,543
were present in Moscow
at the scene of the attacks?
427
00:22:16,626 --> 00:22:20,172
We are aware of allegations
that Mr. Fury and Miss Hill
428
00:22:20,255 --> 00:22:22,007
may have traveled to Moscow.
429
00:22:22,090 --> 00:22:25,802
Another example
of trust no one in our show
430
00:22:25,886 --> 00:22:30,432
that has kind of far-reaching
implications for the MCU,
431
00:22:30,515 --> 00:22:34,436
looking backward and projecting forward,
is that we find out that
432
00:22:34,519 --> 00:22:36,688
Colonel Rhodes is, in fact, a Skrull.
433
00:22:39,149 --> 00:22:41,193
It's been an interesting ride,
434
00:22:41,276 --> 00:22:44,863
and through all of the different
iterations of Rhodey,
435
00:22:44,946 --> 00:22:47,991
and it's great to have an opportunity
to keep exploring a character
436
00:22:48,075 --> 00:22:50,327
and finding new facets to him
437
00:22:50,410 --> 00:22:51,912
and new ways to play it.
438
00:22:51,995 --> 00:22:54,081
If Slovakia rolls its eyes at me
one more time,
439
00:22:54,164 --> 00:22:56,208
I'm gonna put on the suit
and carpet bomb it.
440
00:22:56,291 --> 00:22:59,920
I think that's always the exciting thing
to me about these shows is...
441
00:23:00,003 --> 00:23:01,922
Is seeing the other colors
of these characters
442
00:23:02,005 --> 00:23:03,924
and what they're having to deal with.
443
00:23:04,007 --> 00:23:07,803
While the country appreciates your service
to the President tonight,
444
00:23:07,886 --> 00:23:09,346
I'm here now. You can go.
445
00:23:09,429 --> 00:23:11,390
You must be outta your Skrull-ass mind,
446
00:23:11,473 --> 00:23:14,434
you think I'm gonna let you
get anywhere near the President.
447
00:23:15,310 --> 00:23:16,978
Don and I were like golf buddies,
448
00:23:17,062 --> 00:23:20,774
and we've known each other forever
but never worked together.
449
00:23:20,857 --> 00:23:22,818
- Enticing offer.
- Word.
450
00:23:23,735 --> 00:23:27,030
I would think that's what they call
in this business a win-win.
451
00:23:27,823 --> 00:23:29,199
Can I make you a counteroffer?
452
00:23:30,492 --> 00:23:35,539
So, this has been, you know,
a wonderful opportunity for Don and I
453
00:23:35,622 --> 00:23:38,291
to, you know, step in
and do some stuff together
454
00:23:38,375 --> 00:23:41,837
and be able to, I'd say, joust
455
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:46,007
in that way that good friends
who respect each other's work
456
00:23:46,091 --> 00:23:50,303
and have been anxious to actually,
you know, get in that space together
457
00:23:51,179 --> 00:23:52,264
and do it.
458
00:23:52,347 --> 00:23:54,057
This is a war I got to fight.
459
00:23:55,642 --> 00:23:57,978
When we finish, we can look at each other
and kind of go,
460
00:23:58,061 --> 00:24:01,314
"Yeah, I think we did it.
Yeah, we did it. We did it. Yeah."
461
00:24:12,993 --> 00:24:17,289
One of the special reveals
that we thought was important
462
00:24:17,372 --> 00:24:20,459
in building out this series
and building out a Nick Fury
463
00:24:20,542 --> 00:24:22,711
who was fuller than just his job
464
00:24:22,794 --> 00:24:24,588
is Mrs. Fury.
465
00:24:25,505 --> 00:24:27,299
- Good morning.
- Morning!
466
00:24:27,382 --> 00:24:29,259
Her name's Priscilla Davis
467
00:24:29,342 --> 00:24:31,178
and they met 30 years ago.
468
00:24:31,261 --> 00:24:35,140
There's a rule that, you know, commander
of station and operatives cannot be...
469
00:24:35,223 --> 00:24:37,517
Our unit doesn't exist, Fury.
470
00:24:38,768 --> 00:24:40,353
That means I don't work for you.
471
00:24:40,770 --> 00:24:44,191
That's an intriguing possibility.
472
00:24:44,399 --> 00:24:49,738
And what we further reveal
is that Priscilla's, in fact, a Skrull.
473
00:24:49,821 --> 00:24:51,781
She's very much a peer to Fury,
474
00:24:51,865 --> 00:24:54,117
which is something
we don't see often in the MCU.
475
00:24:54,201 --> 00:24:55,869
He's the smartest guy in the room,
476
00:24:55,952 --> 00:24:58,330
and with Priscilla we had somebody
who could match his wit
477
00:24:58,413 --> 00:25:01,708
and his intelligence,
and that was really exciting.
478
00:25:02,459 --> 00:25:06,546
Charlayne Woodard, a friend of mine
that I've known for a very long time
479
00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:08,173
back in the '70s and '80s,
480
00:25:08,256 --> 00:25:10,759
when all of us were, you know,
pounding the pavement
481
00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:13,303
and doing plays
and doing all this other stuff.
482
00:25:13,386 --> 00:25:15,430
She's, you know, fascinating to work with.
483
00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:18,517
I never had a chance to work with her.
We've just been friends forever.
484
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,685
So all of a sudden,
we're working together,
485
00:25:20,769 --> 00:25:22,646
so that's an amazing kind of thing.
486
00:25:23,396 --> 00:25:26,816
- Fancy.
- My old Moroccan pour.
487
00:25:27,609 --> 00:25:30,362
I thought she was something really special
488
00:25:30,445 --> 00:25:33,114
and she knew how to have fun with it.
489
00:25:33,657 --> 00:25:36,993
Thank you for the best time
I've ever had on any project.
490
00:25:37,077 --> 00:25:38,679
- Yeah.
- Why lie to them?
491
00:25:38,703 --> 00:25:39,996
It's the truth.
492
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,707
If it was Gravik,
then why does he need me?
493
00:25:42,791 --> 00:25:45,335
What Gravik needs,
what Gravik doesn't need,
494
00:25:45,418 --> 00:25:46,711
that's none of your concern.
495
00:25:47,462 --> 00:25:51,007
Gravik is, depending on your perspective,
496
00:25:51,132 --> 00:25:56,680
either a global terrorist
or, you know, a freedom fighter.
497
00:25:57,514 --> 00:25:59,933
Gravik doesn't trust anyone
apart from himself.
498
00:26:00,016 --> 00:26:01,810
Skrulls, humans, they're all the same.
499
00:26:01,893 --> 00:26:03,895
I see you've kept the circle tight
on this one.
500
00:26:04,688 --> 00:26:06,815
- We're the circle. No one else.
- Yeah?
501
00:26:06,898 --> 00:26:09,025
We're over 500 strong now.
502
00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:11,486
So, is everyone a part of...
503
00:26:11,570 --> 00:26:14,281
The resistance? No.
Gravik provides refuge.
504
00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:17,784
But if you do choose to be a warrior,
there is one advantage.
505
00:26:18,243 --> 00:26:19,452
Yeah? What's that?
506
00:26:19,703 --> 00:26:20,912
You get to leave.
507
00:26:21,496 --> 00:26:22,998
Everyone else stays in the compound.
508
00:26:24,499 --> 00:26:28,712
The idea was to have a place
where the Skrulls could survive
509
00:26:28,795 --> 00:26:30,505
and the humans couldn't get to.
510
00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:31,923
So it was like a hideout,
511
00:26:32,007 --> 00:26:35,635
like a refugee camp that was undetectable.
512
00:26:36,136 --> 00:26:41,099
And the Skrulls realized, or knew,
before the story started
513
00:26:41,182 --> 00:26:43,268
that they could withstand radiation.
514
00:26:44,185 --> 00:26:48,023
And there's a town
very much like Chernobyl
515
00:26:48,106 --> 00:26:53,403
that has been the victim of a nuclear
power plant meltdown some years before,
516
00:26:53,486 --> 00:26:57,907
and the humans stay away from it
because the radiation levels are too high.
517
00:26:58,533 --> 00:27:00,535
And the Skrulls, it has no effect on them.
518
00:27:00,619 --> 00:27:03,288
I always imagine
it was like 20 years adrift,
519
00:27:03,371 --> 00:27:05,415
that it had been abandoned
at least 20 years.
520
00:27:05,498 --> 00:27:09,169
The buildings there probably date
from maybe 50 years ago?
521
00:27:09,252 --> 00:27:12,047
So I was trying to create
that sort of sense of a place
522
00:27:12,130 --> 00:27:13,715
where it has a history.
523
00:27:13,798 --> 00:27:16,426
It looks derelict in a way
that people have abandoned it.
524
00:27:16,509 --> 00:27:19,554
It needed to feel that
it was kind of natural, degraded,
525
00:27:19,638 --> 00:27:22,098
you know, the way that
nature takes over places.
526
00:27:23,808 --> 00:27:25,560
The Skrulls are not
trying to make it home,
527
00:27:25,644 --> 00:27:28,813
so they're never fixing anything up.
They're just existing there
528
00:27:28,897 --> 00:27:31,775
because this is just
a stopping off place in their journey.
529
00:27:31,858 --> 00:27:34,235
The Skrull experience
is a refugee experience.
530
00:27:34,319 --> 00:27:38,281
It's an experience that has required them
to live in the shadows,
531
00:27:38,365 --> 00:27:40,909
and they want nothing more
532
00:27:40,992 --> 00:27:44,037
than to continue
to be able to live in peace.
533
00:27:45,288 --> 00:27:46,706
Welcome to New Skrullos.
534
00:27:49,417 --> 00:27:52,379
I looked back
at the Secret Invasion comic,
535
00:27:52,462 --> 00:27:55,924
I looked at Captain Marvel
where we see the Skrulls,
536
00:27:56,007 --> 00:27:58,760
I dug into Marvel Archive
to see if there was anything else.
537
00:27:58,843 --> 00:28:01,304
We explored the Skrull language.
538
00:28:01,388 --> 00:28:03,014
We got Skrull text.
539
00:28:03,098 --> 00:28:05,392
We explored all of those elements,
540
00:28:05,475 --> 00:28:07,602
and what we decided was
541
00:28:07,686 --> 00:28:13,858
the Skrulls will have kept an element
of who they were about themselves.
542
00:28:13,942 --> 00:28:17,362
So, we wanted to find a texture
that represented their skin.
543
00:28:17,445 --> 00:28:21,366
So we have given all the Skrulls
a waffle texture as a base layer,
544
00:28:21,491 --> 00:28:23,660
because that felt close to their skin.
545
00:28:23,743 --> 00:28:25,370
Now, the more military Skrulls
546
00:28:25,453 --> 00:28:28,998
have got map pockets and military pockets,
547
00:28:29,499 --> 00:28:31,584
I think, pockets for equipment
548
00:28:31,668 --> 00:28:34,003
because as they assimilate to humans,
549
00:28:34,087 --> 00:28:36,881
they gather information
about what's useful
550
00:28:36,965 --> 00:28:38,299
and what the human does.
551
00:28:38,383 --> 00:28:39,718
So in a military sense,
552
00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:43,722
they adapted aspects
of military clothing and militia look.
553
00:28:43,805 --> 00:28:48,977
And then the more civilian Skrulls
that we see in Skrull Town
554
00:28:49,060 --> 00:28:52,856
are more, more utilitarianly dressed,
555
00:28:52,939 --> 00:28:54,858
and we looked at French work wear,
we looked
556
00:28:54,941 --> 00:28:59,446
at what uniform does society
give its civilians
557
00:28:59,529 --> 00:29:02,157
when they're in a politically
transient situation.
558
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,533
What is your name?
559
00:29:03,616 --> 00:29:04,701
Warrior.
560
00:29:04,784 --> 00:29:06,244
What is your fight?
561
00:29:06,327 --> 00:29:07,328
Skrullos.
562
00:29:07,662 --> 00:29:08,872
What is your dream?
563
00:29:08,955 --> 00:29:09,956
Home.
564
00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:14,544
When we came to designing the makeup
for the Skrull refugees,
565
00:29:14,627 --> 00:29:17,881
we were talking about the reality of that
566
00:29:17,964 --> 00:29:22,260
and how we were going to reflect that
with our cast and our Skrulls.
567
00:29:22,343 --> 00:29:28,057
And, you know, they've all got to look,
like, downtrodden and tired
568
00:29:28,141 --> 00:29:30,310
and world-weary.
569
00:29:30,393 --> 00:29:34,355
You may not notice,
but they've all got quite grubby nails
570
00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:36,775
and the necks are all a bit grubby,
571
00:29:36,858 --> 00:29:40,361
and the pores on the...
Across the noses of the children
572
00:29:40,445 --> 00:29:43,281
have got worn in dirt,
little details like that
573
00:29:43,364 --> 00:29:48,077
which just bring that kind of reality
of being constantly on the move.
574
00:29:57,712 --> 00:30:00,924
We're now in the finishing
department of Cam Effects.
575
00:30:01,007 --> 00:30:03,218
This is where we do
all the painting and the seaming
576
00:30:03,301 --> 00:30:05,929
and getting things all ready
just before things go on set.
577
00:30:06,012 --> 00:30:09,808
This is kind of the final stage
before we take the prosthetics on the set
578
00:30:09,891 --> 00:30:11,392
and stick them onto the actor.
579
00:30:15,688 --> 00:30:18,608
Some prosthetics
we actually have done the ears separate.
580
00:30:18,691 --> 00:30:21,569
So the ears would go on first,
then the chin, then the face.
581
00:30:22,862 --> 00:30:25,281
In some cowls, we've done the ears intact.
582
00:30:25,365 --> 00:30:28,535
The reason that we've done them
slightly different for different people
583
00:30:28,618 --> 00:30:31,204
is because some people's ears
are so close to their head
584
00:30:31,287 --> 00:30:34,666
that actually, we can get away
with keeping the ears on the cowl
585
00:30:34,749 --> 00:30:36,709
and some they stick out,
586
00:30:36,793 --> 00:30:39,254
so it's actually easier for us
to do the ears separately.
587
00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:41,005
It just depends on time as well.
588
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:43,341
The good thing about doing it this way is
589
00:30:43,424 --> 00:30:45,927
the time in the makeup chair
is vastly reduced
590
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:49,639
because we can stick on this large piece
in probably about 40 minutes
591
00:30:49,722 --> 00:30:51,975
and then that's half the makeup
pretty much done,
592
00:30:52,058 --> 00:30:53,643
and then chin and face goes on
593
00:30:53,726 --> 00:30:55,103
and it's very, very fast.
594
00:30:58,940 --> 00:31:00,942
We have a lot of background Skrulls.
595
00:31:01,025 --> 00:31:04,404
The difference between the cast
and the background is actually minimal.
596
00:31:04,487 --> 00:31:06,114
You know, the actual level of detail
597
00:31:06,197 --> 00:31:08,199
and the application
is pretty much the same.
598
00:31:08,283 --> 00:31:11,452
But the very background
is literally pull-on masks,
599
00:31:11,536 --> 00:31:14,414
and that's to save on time and labor,
600
00:31:14,497 --> 00:31:18,835
and you know, each Skrull actually
has two prosthetic makeup artists on.
601
00:31:19,335 --> 00:31:22,755
So as soon as you have 20 Skrulls on set,
which they will be in makeup,
602
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:25,133
you know,
that's 40 prosthetic makeup artists.
603
00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:27,010
And then we want
another 15 people in masks,
604
00:31:27,093 --> 00:31:29,721
so we want to minimize that crew.
605
00:31:29,804 --> 00:31:32,181
One of the longest things
that we have to deal with
606
00:31:32,265 --> 00:31:33,266
is painting hands.
607
00:31:33,349 --> 00:31:35,018
So you do these... These Skrull makeups,
608
00:31:35,101 --> 00:31:38,229
but it takes an hour to paint the arms
up to here and put all the detail in
609
00:31:38,313 --> 00:31:40,148
and sometimes back-of-hand prosthetics.
610
00:31:40,231 --> 00:31:41,774
So we've actually avoided that
611
00:31:41,858 --> 00:31:45,486
with basically producing
our Lycra pull-on Skrull gloves,
612
00:31:45,612 --> 00:31:46,821
and then it's... It's done.
613
00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,365
You know, you've got a Skrull hand
very, very quickly,
614
00:31:49,449 --> 00:31:51,868
and it means that
they can take the mask off,
615
00:31:51,951 --> 00:31:54,037
they can take the gloves off,
have their lunch.
616
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,580
Talos is the only character
617
00:31:55,663 --> 00:31:58,917
that we haven't sculpted
bespoke ourselves.
618
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,003
This is the character
that is transferring from Captain Marvel.
619
00:32:02,086 --> 00:32:05,423
Ben Mendelsohn's makeup hasn't changed.
Everything still fits okay.
620
00:32:06,466 --> 00:32:09,677
Prosthetics. They do a couple of things.
621
00:32:09,761 --> 00:32:12,138
They tend to make you
better-looking in some ways.
622
00:32:12,221 --> 00:32:14,807
They'll tend to improve
upon the shape of your head.
623
00:32:15,934 --> 00:32:18,102
They take a very long time.
624
00:32:19,020 --> 00:32:21,773
But there's a golden rule, I think.
625
00:32:22,815 --> 00:32:25,902
There's not...
There's nothing to be gained from...
626
00:32:28,863 --> 00:32:33,409
From, you know, bitching about
being inside the costume
627
00:32:33,493 --> 00:32:36,371
or complaining about its difficulties.
628
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:38,998
You got to suck it up, roll with it
629
00:32:39,082 --> 00:32:43,127
and work inside a superhero
prosthetics and the costumes.
630
00:32:44,587 --> 00:32:47,423
Did you feel that sort of scrolling pain?
Right, look...
631
00:32:51,427 --> 00:32:56,307
We are at Dunsfold,
which is a decommissioned air base
632
00:32:56,391 --> 00:32:58,559
that's used for Top Gear.
633
00:32:58,935 --> 00:33:01,813
Top Gear is filmed here,
and so people are very excited about that.
634
00:33:01,896 --> 00:33:04,899
And we're shooting
the presidential motorcade ambush
635
00:33:04,983 --> 00:33:07,193
at the end of Episode 4.
636
00:33:07,276 --> 00:33:12,198
This scene has been
in development for months,
637
00:33:12,281 --> 00:33:13,700
working closely with Rob Inch,
638
00:33:13,783 --> 00:33:16,035
the stunt coordinator
and second unit director,
639
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,038
who is really the hero of this sequence,
640
00:33:19,122 --> 00:33:23,042
which I think will end up being
seven or eight minutes of screentime.
641
00:33:23,626 --> 00:33:26,087
And he's been working on it full-time
642
00:33:26,963 --> 00:33:31,217
since probably May,
and it's now middle of November.
643
00:33:33,177 --> 00:33:37,432
I work with a storyboard artist,
develop the shots, show them to Rob.
644
00:33:37,515 --> 00:33:38,683
Rob develops,
645
00:33:39,142 --> 00:33:41,019
sort of reverse engineers
646
00:33:41,102 --> 00:33:44,147
how to create the car flip
that's been drawn,
647
00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:49,569
then the storyboards go into
an animation sequence called pre-vis
648
00:33:49,652 --> 00:33:52,113
where we pre-visualize
what's going to happen.
649
00:33:52,196 --> 00:33:55,199
The pre-vis people work,
then the editor takes over,
650
00:33:55,283 --> 00:33:58,828
edits together the storyboards
and the pre-vis animation
651
00:33:58,911 --> 00:34:02,707
and ultimately comes up
with a sequence that is paced and timed
652
00:34:02,790 --> 00:34:04,292
as the final sequence will be.
653
00:34:04,751 --> 00:34:07,920
And that gives Rob Inch and myself
a greater sense of
654
00:34:08,004 --> 00:34:10,798
how long the car flips need to take
and how to achieve them.
655
00:34:11,466 --> 00:34:13,551
And we come here to Dunsfold
656
00:34:13,634 --> 00:34:17,263
and Rob basically works
with the mechanics of all that
657
00:34:17,346 --> 00:34:20,141
and any time you see an actor's face
658
00:34:20,224 --> 00:34:23,394
emoting or delivering some information,
659
00:34:23,478 --> 00:34:24,562
that's my job.
660
00:34:24,645 --> 00:34:27,106
So, I'm the main unit,
he's the second unit
661
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:29,525
and we come together in this week
662
00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:31,235
to put together this sequence.
663
00:34:31,319 --> 00:34:36,365
Ready, and three, two, one, action!
664
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:40,078
Cut that!
665
00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:43,539
So there's loads of elements to this.
First of all, the...
666
00:34:43,623 --> 00:34:45,583
You know, we're doing two-car flip
667
00:34:45,666 --> 00:34:48,002
and with one of the cars,
ultimately, what we do is
668
00:34:48,086 --> 00:34:49,545
we're gonna do a cannon roll,
669
00:34:50,088 --> 00:34:54,342
which is a charged cannon
in the bottom of the car
670
00:34:54,425 --> 00:34:56,969
that throws out a piston which flips it
671
00:34:57,053 --> 00:35:00,389
and as that happens,
we have the presidential car behind that,
672
00:35:00,473 --> 00:35:02,892
swerves out of the way of that one
and he gets hit
673
00:35:02,975 --> 00:35:06,521
and we're going to do
a more conventional pipe ramp with that
674
00:35:06,604 --> 00:35:08,564
which will roll that car over
675
00:35:08,648 --> 00:35:12,902
and disengage the two cars
from the presidential cavalcade.
676
00:35:14,695 --> 00:35:16,906
We got hold of a couple of old cars,
677
00:35:17,949 --> 00:35:19,575
put roll cages in them
678
00:35:19,659 --> 00:35:23,204
and went to Dunsfold and tested it
where we were going to film it.
679
00:35:23,287 --> 00:35:25,206
How's the distance, for this to go under?
680
00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:26,833
It looks... It looks pretty good.
681
00:35:26,916 --> 00:35:27,917
- Okay, good.
- Yeah.
682
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,795
There's several stages
before we actually get to do it.
683
00:35:30,878 --> 00:35:34,048
Certainly, each time we do it,
it's a completely new car,
684
00:35:34,632 --> 00:35:37,927
and they're quite expensive,
those Suburbans, so...
685
00:35:38,636 --> 00:35:40,805
We didn't have too many to play with.
686
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,394
The attack really happens then.
We've got three vans
687
00:35:46,477 --> 00:35:48,104
coming from up in the woods here.
688
00:35:48,187 --> 00:35:49,939
We're doing a jump through some hedge
689
00:35:50,022 --> 00:35:53,109
to introduce the kind of Russian baddies
690
00:35:53,192 --> 00:35:55,361
and then the gun battle happens,
691
00:35:55,444 --> 00:35:58,489
and through that gun battle,
we take down a couple of helicopters.
692
00:35:58,573 --> 00:36:01,993
They land left and right
of the presidential car that's flipped up.
693
00:36:02,076 --> 00:36:05,329
We're going to be ratcheting a couple
people away from that as that happens.
694
00:36:05,413 --> 00:36:09,417
But then the story is a navigation
of getting Fury and Talos
695
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:12,378
back to where the president is to...
696
00:36:12,461 --> 00:36:14,463
To break open the window, pull him out,
697
00:36:14,547 --> 00:36:16,174
and take him away.
698
00:36:23,306 --> 00:36:25,474
He's a bloody alien.
He's trying to get to Ritson!
699
00:36:25,558 --> 00:36:28,227
No, no, no! Hold your fire!
He's with me!
700
00:36:29,896 --> 00:36:32,732
The president cannot be got.
701
00:36:32,815 --> 00:36:34,066
He can't be got.
702
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:37,361
If the president gets got, it's game over.
703
00:36:38,404 --> 00:36:41,407
So, Talos does the only thing that he...
704
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:44,577
That he can.
He's trying to get him out of that car.
705
00:36:44,660 --> 00:36:46,787
Talos, hang in there.
I'll be back for you.
706
00:36:46,871 --> 00:36:49,916
And you know, it's a...
It's a great move by Gravik.
707
00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:53,920
Put him down.
708
00:36:56,547 --> 00:36:59,800
I said put him down.
709
00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:09,435
I think Nick Fury is aware
710
00:37:09,518 --> 00:37:13,397
that his personal attachments
to other people,
711
00:37:13,481 --> 00:37:17,568
other Skrulls opens him up
to what's at stake.
712
00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:20,321
Not just for humans here on Earth,
713
00:37:20,404 --> 00:37:23,866
but for Skrulls here on Earth,
that they do share the same values
714
00:37:24,367 --> 00:37:28,621
and that Talos has just paid
the ultimate price to demonstrate that.
715
00:37:30,706 --> 00:37:32,541
It's the Obi-Wan Kenobi thing.
716
00:37:32,625 --> 00:37:35,127
He is more powerful as an example
717
00:37:35,211 --> 00:37:39,048
when he's gone
than I think he would be capable
718
00:37:39,674 --> 00:37:41,259
of living at that time.
719
00:37:41,342 --> 00:37:43,135
On a surface level,
the fact that
720
00:37:43,219 --> 00:37:46,973
Nick Fury has lost Maria Hill
and lost Talos,
721
00:37:47,056 --> 00:37:49,600
both at the hands of Gravik,
722
00:37:49,684 --> 00:37:53,104
I think, is just a further extension
723
00:37:53,187 --> 00:37:57,650
of Gravik sinking the knife
and twisting it into Nick Fury.
724
00:37:57,733 --> 00:38:01,696
But I also think it's good to take
a character who has a lot of questions
725
00:38:02,196 --> 00:38:06,200
and needs to make a lot of decisions
and isolate them
726
00:38:06,284 --> 00:38:11,205
so that the pressure
becomes entirely on them
727
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:15,042
and they are unable
to point fingers anywhere.
728
00:38:15,543 --> 00:38:21,090
Nearly every Avenger
spilled blood in the Battle of Earth.
729
00:38:22,133 --> 00:38:23,634
Even Carol Danvers.
730
00:38:25,136 --> 00:38:29,682
In the aftermath,
some were sent in to collect that DNA.
731
00:38:32,018 --> 00:38:35,354
Some with the ability to blend in.
732
00:38:37,315 --> 00:38:41,527
Nobody knew about them
but me and the collectors,
733
00:38:41,986 --> 00:38:43,279
- led by...
- Gravik.
734
00:38:43,362 --> 00:38:44,572
Gravik, yes.
735
00:38:44,655 --> 00:38:48,617
Which is probably where he got the idea
for the Super Skrull machine.
736
00:38:48,701 --> 00:38:51,746
- So you are responsible for all this?
- Yeah.
737
00:38:53,956 --> 00:38:55,541
Why do you think I came back?
738
00:38:58,919 --> 00:39:03,174
We're developing this process
of injecting ourselves with the DNA of,
739
00:39:04,216 --> 00:39:07,803
you know, other characters,
very powerful characters from the MCU.
740
00:39:09,638 --> 00:39:11,098
It's all going towards the machine,
741
00:39:11,182 --> 00:39:15,644
which is the creation of this machine
which is right behind us,
742
00:39:15,728 --> 00:39:17,480
which you go into and...
743
00:39:18,147 --> 00:39:20,733
It's kind of like a pick-and-mix.
You can choose...
744
00:39:21,442 --> 00:39:25,529
I'll take the DNA of Abomination
or Cull Obsidian, or whoever,
745
00:39:25,613 --> 00:39:27,365
and then you take on their powers.
746
00:39:29,283 --> 00:39:31,660
It's all leading towards basically turning
747
00:39:32,203 --> 00:39:34,080
the minimal Skrull population
748
00:39:34,580 --> 00:39:37,500
into a force of super soldiers.
749
00:39:41,128 --> 00:39:46,384
It was an ongoing conversation throughout
pre-production and even into production,
750
00:39:46,467 --> 00:39:48,052
about which characters,
751
00:39:48,135 --> 00:39:51,764
which superpowered beings
we would pull from for this DNA.
752
00:39:55,309 --> 00:39:58,354
You want to feel that
the strength and the DNA they collect
753
00:39:58,437 --> 00:40:01,440
is powerful enough
to make them a compelling
754
00:40:01,524 --> 00:40:04,360
and interesting and scary villain.
755
00:40:04,443 --> 00:40:09,365
So, we began our search with this hunt
over Planet Earth and we're like,
756
00:40:09,448 --> 00:40:12,159
"Where could they have found
Frost Giant DNA?
757
00:40:12,243 --> 00:40:15,287
"Where could they have found EXTREMIS DNA,
or Groot DNA?"
758
00:40:15,371 --> 00:40:18,999
And so, we started to search
through the movies and they're like, "Ha!"
759
00:40:19,083 --> 00:40:20,835
They found Groot DNA
760
00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:24,505
at the site in Wakanda
where Groot put his arms into the ground
761
00:40:24,588 --> 00:40:25,714
to try to defeat Thanos.
762
00:40:25,798 --> 00:40:29,844
Cull Obsidian's arm gets chopped off
in one of the battles in New York.
763
00:40:29,927 --> 00:40:32,513
So, it was... It was really fun to, like,
764
00:40:32,596 --> 00:40:35,433
pick these, like, seemingly random strands
765
00:40:35,516 --> 00:40:38,436
out of the MCU
and find a new place for them
766
00:40:38,519 --> 00:40:40,438
within the context of Secret Invasion.
767
00:40:41,147 --> 00:40:43,065
And we no longer just change faces.
768
00:40:44,108 --> 00:40:45,317
We change powers.
769
00:40:46,444 --> 00:40:49,738
We're gonna be uniquely programmed
weapons of mass destruction.
770
00:40:50,823 --> 00:40:51,866
All of us.
771
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:54,618
Super Skrulls.
772
00:40:54,702 --> 00:40:57,997
Gravik realizes that
he needs to be stronger.
773
00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,623
He needs bigger weapons,
774
00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:03,210
and the biggest weapon
you can have is Avenger DNA
775
00:41:03,294 --> 00:41:05,546
and become Carol Danvers.
776
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:12,303
Carol's DNA
represents the highest of the high
777
00:41:12,386 --> 00:41:15,014
in terms of the powers,
even more than the Avengers, I think.
778
00:41:15,097 --> 00:41:17,558
Once he gets
Captain Marvel's powers,
779
00:41:17,641 --> 00:41:20,811
everyone will then
be able to experience his pain
780
00:41:20,895 --> 00:41:25,274
and absolute destruction and chaos
or cleanse or whatever you want to call it
781
00:41:25,357 --> 00:41:26,984
will be inevitable.
782
00:41:29,028 --> 00:41:30,529
It's part of what I...
783
00:41:30,613 --> 00:41:32,490
I know it's a part of his mind game,
784
00:41:32,573 --> 00:41:34,867
but what part of a mind game is it?
785
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:36,118
It's, um...
786
00:41:37,036 --> 00:41:38,245
I think this...
787
00:41:38,787 --> 00:41:40,873
This entire thing is a tribunal.
788
00:41:41,999 --> 00:41:44,585
To put you on trial, put Nick Fury,
789
00:41:45,294 --> 00:41:47,421
the man that made this promise,
790
00:41:47,505 --> 00:41:49,340
the guy who sacrificed
791
00:41:50,716 --> 00:41:52,635
his life, his relationships...
792
00:41:52,718 --> 00:41:54,553
Things he should have done,
but he never did.
793
00:41:54,637 --> 00:41:56,931
All the relationships he's had
have been tainted by it.
794
00:41:57,014 --> 00:41:58,516
Everything you've touched.
795
00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,643
- His commitment to something else.
- Right.
796
00:42:00,726 --> 00:42:04,104
- You've tainted in his estimation...
- Yeah.
797
00:42:04,188 --> 00:42:06,398
Put you on trial for that.
798
00:42:10,236 --> 00:42:13,572
What we're sitting in at the moment
is the core of the reactor control room.
799
00:42:14,031 --> 00:42:16,116
The assumption
is there's still power here,
800
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,495
that the Skrulls are using this as
a power source for their own experiments.
801
00:42:21,539 --> 00:42:23,541
I was in Budapest last year
802
00:42:23,624 --> 00:42:26,544
and visited this power station
this is based on
803
00:42:26,627 --> 00:42:28,879
and just thought, "What an amazing space."
804
00:42:28,963 --> 00:42:30,381
It was an Art Deco,
805
00:42:30,464 --> 00:42:33,259
it's period
and there is a pattern in here.
806
00:42:33,342 --> 00:42:35,844
You've got an oval space
with a sphere inside it.
807
00:42:35,928 --> 00:42:39,056
But I just thought the idea of it
being an eye in some way was interesting.
808
00:42:40,057 --> 00:42:41,850
What is so interesting about the Skrulls
809
00:42:41,934 --> 00:42:44,645
is that they have
this shape-shifting trick they do
810
00:42:44,728 --> 00:42:46,146
that fools the eye,
811
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:48,232
and what you see and what you don't see
812
00:42:48,315 --> 00:42:50,067
is a constant theme all the way through,
813
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:53,362
and it's something
I have kind of exploited in subtle ways.
814
00:42:53,779 --> 00:42:56,365
I was interested in reflections,
I was interested in mirrors,
815
00:42:56,490 --> 00:42:58,200
and sometimes you look into spaces
816
00:42:58,284 --> 00:43:00,703
and you see something
but it's not really there.
817
00:43:00,786 --> 00:43:03,080
The Skrulls are like magpies.
They take stuff away
818
00:43:03,163 --> 00:43:05,457
from what they find around
and make their own things.
819
00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:08,460
So I just thought
it was kind of great foil
820
00:43:08,544 --> 00:43:11,255
to have redundant technology
and future technology
821
00:43:11,338 --> 00:43:12,506
existing in the same place.
822
00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:16,010
So I pitched it and I don't know,
they seemed to like it.
823
00:43:20,723 --> 00:43:22,975
Whoa! Colonel Rhodes, I've got you.
824
00:43:26,270 --> 00:43:29,023
You've been held hostage
for a long time.
825
00:43:34,111 --> 00:43:38,741
One of the big themes in the show
is the theme of the other and...
826
00:43:38,824 --> 00:43:40,200
And feeling
827
00:43:40,951 --> 00:43:43,704
like you don't have a place that you...
That you don't belong.
828
00:43:43,787 --> 00:43:48,500
And that gives us a feeling of what we are
dealing with day-to-day in this world.
829
00:43:49,293 --> 00:43:52,796
This happens every once in a while
where, you know, writers write a show,
830
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,133
and by the time it comes out,
it's the life we're living.
831
00:44:00,304 --> 00:44:03,807
It's dealing with
some very real human issues
832
00:44:03,932 --> 00:44:06,143
and very real human struggles
833
00:44:06,226 --> 00:44:08,771
and to give that air time,
to give that space,
834
00:44:08,854 --> 00:44:10,898
I think it's remarkable,
835
00:44:11,398 --> 00:44:14,026
and I feel utterly privileged
to be a part of that conversation.
836
00:44:15,069 --> 00:44:19,823
I just wanted to tell you that I love you.
837
00:44:20,991 --> 00:44:22,076
As I am.
838
00:44:31,502 --> 00:44:34,421
Only as you are.
839
00:44:47,726 --> 00:44:50,104
Lord.
840
00:44:50,187 --> 00:44:51,188
Well.
841
00:44:54,233 --> 00:44:57,069
Yeah. I'm gonna miss this one.
I'm gonna miss it a lot.
842
00:44:59,363 --> 00:45:02,574
I will miss the degree
to which this is in people's hearts.
843
00:45:02,658 --> 00:45:06,662
I'm gonna miss a lot of the people
that the audience don't see
844
00:45:06,745 --> 00:45:10,541
who make up the real experience
of what it is to do this...
845
00:45:10,624 --> 00:45:13,085
These things.
The people I work with every day,
846
00:45:13,168 --> 00:45:15,671
and I'm going to miss
being on set with Sam.
847
00:45:17,589 --> 00:45:21,260
I've been fortunate
from the first time I showed up.
848
00:45:21,343 --> 00:45:23,095
I was making sure they didn't kill me.
849
00:45:23,178 --> 00:45:25,723
I'm here to talk to you
about the Avenger Initiative.
850
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,934
So I could be the next one
and the next one
851
00:45:29,017 --> 00:45:31,562
and I kind of keep doing that in this,
852
00:45:31,645 --> 00:45:34,189
hoping, "Well, okay,
are they gonna kill me this time?
853
00:45:34,273 --> 00:45:35,774
"They ain't kill me yet.
854
00:45:35,858 --> 00:45:37,985
"Are they gonna kill me
in the series now?"
855
00:45:38,485 --> 00:45:40,946
But that's another story for another time.
856
00:45:41,697 --> 00:45:45,534
I think the luxury of doing a series
within the Marvel Universe
857
00:45:45,617 --> 00:45:47,119
is you get to spend time.
858
00:45:47,661 --> 00:45:50,914
We get to jump into Nick Fury's world
859
00:45:50,998 --> 00:45:52,499
which is very Spy vs. Spy.
860
00:45:52,583 --> 00:45:56,503
Not bad. Not a bad plan
for a washed-up old man.
861
00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:59,465
I am literally half your age.
862
00:46:02,468 --> 00:46:05,262
It's very
dark alley conversations.
863
00:46:05,345 --> 00:46:06,972
It's very film noir,
864
00:46:07,055 --> 00:46:11,477
and you're able to sort of see
him trying to navigate
865
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,354
using his old techniques
in these new waters.
866
00:46:19,318 --> 00:46:22,988
I think that the thing
that I'll take away from it is just like
867
00:46:23,697 --> 00:46:26,116
the effect that these films have...
868
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,576
in people's lives.
869
00:46:28,911 --> 00:46:32,080
It's so cool
being a part of Marvel history,
870
00:46:32,164 --> 00:46:35,417
and when you meet people and you see
how much they love these movies
871
00:46:35,501 --> 00:46:37,878
and you see how... How excited they are
872
00:46:37,961 --> 00:46:40,923
about the characters and the story
and the future of it,
873
00:46:41,006 --> 00:46:43,133
it's just like... It's entertaining.
874
00:46:43,842 --> 00:46:46,053
But I think, you know, when it started,
875
00:46:46,136 --> 00:46:48,722
I think we all knew that
it was something special.
876
00:46:48,806 --> 00:46:50,140
There was an idea.
877
00:46:50,224 --> 00:46:53,477
I think that there was
so much excitement,
878
00:46:54,478 --> 00:46:57,898
but I didn't imagine that the scope of it
would widen so much
879
00:46:57,981 --> 00:47:00,818
and this world would become so large.
880
00:47:00,868 --> 00:47:05,418
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