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{\an1}♪
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{\an1}Tonight,
a 2,000-year-old mystery
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{\an1}that's confounded
top archaeologists.
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{\an1}The world's most famous queen
lost without a trace.
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{\an1}Cleopatra is
a giant in Egyptian history,
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{\an1}renowned for her cunning
across a 21-year rule.
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{\an1}But no one knows
what happens to her
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{\an1}after she dies
or where she's buried.
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{\an1}This kicks off
an incredible mystery
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{\an1}that lasts to this day.
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{\an1}Now we reveal the top theories
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{\an1}surrounding
the final resting place
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{\an1}of Egypt's last pharaoh.
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{\an1}The last place we know
where Cleopatra was
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{\an1}when she was alive
was her palace.
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{\an1}HUGO:
If we can find Mark Antony,
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{\an1}we could potentially
find Cleopatra.
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{\an1}Octavian has her killed
and either he dumped her body,
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{\an1}or he left her
where she lay in her mausoleum.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
Can new evidence finally uncover
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{\an1}Cleopatra's missing tomb?
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{\an1}♪
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
November, 2022.
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{\an1}In the ancient Egyptian city
of Taposiris Magna,
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{\an1}Kathleen Martínez has
been excavating
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{\an1}a ruined temple
for the past 17 years.
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{\an1}Martínez is actually
a really formidable woman,
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{\an1}and she's a lawyer by training.
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{\an1}She's not an archaeologist
of any kind,
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{\an1}but she has this passion.
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{\an1}And so, in 2002,
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{\an1}using her own funds,
she decides to take herself
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{\an1}out to Egypt
to explore what's there
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{\an1}in Taposiris Magna.
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{\an1}PATRICIA COLETTO:
She collaborates with Egypt's
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{\an1}most famous archaeologist,
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{\an1}Dr. Zahi Hawass,
because Kathleen
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{\an1}believes that
at the site of Taposiris Magna
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{\an1}is the lost tomb
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{\an1}of the famous
Egyptian queen Cleopatra.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
It could be a major new lead
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{\an1}in a cold case that goes back
thousands of years.
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{\an1}Cleopatra is one
of the most powerful women
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{\an1}ever to come out of
the ancient Mediterranean world.
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{\an1}She ruled Egypt for 21 years,
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{\an1}from 51 to 30 B.C.
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{\an1}NICOLA:
When Cleopatra is 18 years old,
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{\an1}her father,
King Ptolemy XII Auletes, dies.
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{\an1}And Cleopatra then
sort of ascends to the throne.
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{\an1}But because she's a woman,
she can't do it alone.
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{\an1}So her brother is made
co-regent.
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{\an1}The thing
about her brother, however,
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{\an1}is that he's only ten years old.
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{\an1}Before long, a rivalry ensues,
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{\an1}and those aligned
with Cleopatra's younger brother
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{\an1}seek to dethrone her.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
But Cleopatra devises
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{\an1}a clever way to stay in power.
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{\an1}She allies herself with Rome.
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{\an1}HUGO:
Cleopatra has two significant
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{\an1}relationships in her life,
both of which are
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{\an1}strategic partnerships
to keep her on the throne.
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{\an1}PATRICIA: One is a partnership
with the great Julius Caesar.
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{\an1}He helps her shore up her power,
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{\an1}and with him, she supposedly has
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{\an1}a son named Caesarion.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: The second?
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{\an1}Caesar's top general,
Mark Antony.
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{\an1}In 43 B.C.,
he becomes part
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{\an1}of a new Roman
power structure created
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{\an1}after Caesar's assassination.
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{\an1}Rome comes to be ruled
by what's called a triumvirate.
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{\an1}This is actually
a group of three men:
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{\an1}Mark Antony, Marcus Lepidis,
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{\an1}and Octavian.
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{\an1}Wisely, she begins
a strategic relationship
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{\an1}with Mark Antony,
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{\an1}who promises
to support her rule.
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{\an1}Their romance becomes
the stuff of movie lore.
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{\an1}Eventually, Mark Antony is
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{\an1}so smitten with Cleopatra
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{\an1}that he leaves his wife,
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{\an1}moves to Alexandria,
and stays with Cleopatra.
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{\an1}Unfortunately for Cleopatra,
this ends up having
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{\an1}the opposite effect
of what she intended,
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{\an1}because, instead of really
getting the support of Rome,
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{\an1}she's got Mark Antony
earning the enmity
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{\an1}of everybody back in Rome
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{\an1}for leaving his wife, Octavia,
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{\an1}who was actually
Octavian's sister.
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{\an1}So Octavian is furious
and declares war against
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{\an1}Mark Antony and Cleopatra.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: After nearly
three years of fighting,
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{\an1}in 31 B.C.,
Octavian's forces
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{\an1}defeat Antony
and Cleopatra's armies
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{\an1}and march on Alexandria.
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{\an1}HUGO: As the fighting
grows ever closer,
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{\an1}Cleopatra retreats
into a mausoleum in her palace.
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{\an1}The rest is the stuff
of Shakespearean lore.
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{\an1}PATRICIA: Mark Antony,
who's out fighting on the front,
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{\an1}gets a message from
one of Cleopatra's servants.
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{\an1}When he opens it,
he's horrified to find out
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{\an1}that Cleopatra is dead,
that she's killed herself.
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{\an1}Upon hearing the news,
Mark Antony attempts
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{\an1}to kill himself
by falling on his own sword,
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{\an1}but he fails to take his life.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: Instead,
a mortally wounded Antony
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{\an1}is brought
to Cleopatra's chambers.
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{\an1}It turns out she hasn't
killed herself at all.
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{\an1}At this time, Antony had become
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{\an1}more of a liability
than an asset to Cleopatra.
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{\an1}He had no more power in Rome.
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{\an1}NICOLA: She actually
asked one of her servants
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{\an1}to go to Mark Antony
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{\an1}and give this message
to try to scare him
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{\an1}into surrendering
in the hopes that
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{\an1}maybe that would help
keep him alive.
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{\an1}Tragically, Antony dies
shortly after this.
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{\an1}Cleopatra leaves her tomb,
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{\an1}goes back to the palace,
meets with Octavian
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{\an1}with negotiations
about her future.
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{\an1}Cleopatra's aspirations
is for Caesarion, her son,
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{\an1}to become the king
or the ruler of Egypt.
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{\an1}Rome doesn't have kings,
but at least he could
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{\an1}be the legitimate heir
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{\an1}of Julius Caesar
and the ruler of Rome as well.
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{\an1}Octavian says he will
spare her and her children,
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{\an1}but he will never
allow the succession.
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{\an1}Cleopatra takes herself
back to her palace,
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{\an1}to her mausoleum,
considers this deal,
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{\an1}and ultimately decides
that she has
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{\an1}nothing left to live for,
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{\an1}and she takes her own life.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
Octavian goes on to become
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{\an1}Rome's first emperor,
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{\an1}and Cleopatra will die
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{\an1}as the last active ruler
of the kingdom of Egypt.
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{\an1}HUGO:
Early historians tell us
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{\an1}the method
of Cleopatra's death is poison.
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{\an1}But in those histories,
her story ends there.
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{\an1}NICOLA: This was
a time of civil war.
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{\an1}This is a time
of occupation of Egypt,
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{\an1}and a lot of stuff has
been lost over time.
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{\an1}HUGO: This kicks off
an incredible mystery
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{\an1}that lasts to this day.
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{\an1}No one knows what happens to her
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{\an1}after she dies
or where she's buried.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
With such limited information,
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{\an1}where should the search
for Cleopatra's remains begin?
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{\an1}Cleopatra has a mausoleum
and tomb under construction
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{\an1}in her palace when she dies.
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{\an1}So it makes sense
that the tomb should be
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{\an1}the first place that we look.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: The challenge is,
the tomb is missing.
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{\an1}But in 1996,
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{\an1}a French archaeologist makes
a breakthrough.
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{\an1}NICOLA: Frank Goddio is
one of the fathers
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{\an1}of underwater archaeology.
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{\an1}He primarily focuses on finding
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{\an1}ancient shipwrecks
and also sunken cities.
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{\an1}Goddio comes up with a theory
as to the location
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{\an1}of Cleopatra's palace.
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{\an1}He believes
that it lies due east
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{\an1}of the modern city
of Alexandria.
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{\an1}And the reason
why we haven't found it
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{\an1}is because it's underwater.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: According
to Goddio's research,
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{\an1}the landscape of this region
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{\an1}has changed dramatically
since Cleopatra's time.
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{\an1}NICOLA: Frank Goddio reads
the ancient sources,
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{\an1}and he learns from them
that, in 365 A.D....
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{\an1}so, about 400 years
after Cleopatra...
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{\an1}there was a massive earthquake
that hit Alexandria,
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{\an1}followed by a tsunami that did
a tremendous amount of damage.
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{\an1}Most of the ancient city
at that point was destroyed.
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{\an1}ANDREW: This tidal wave
is so massive
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{\an1}that it flings ships over houses
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{\an1}and kills over 50,000 people.
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{\an1}And Goddio thinks that might be
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{\an1}what ultimately
covers Alexandria
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{\an1}and hides Cleopatra's palace.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
To prove this,
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{\an1}Goddio begins his search
in the waters
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{\an1}of modern-day Alexandria's
eastern seaport.
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{\an1}ANDREW:
Goddio and his team start
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{\an1}by doing high tech scans,
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{\an1}ultimately wanting to create
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{\an1}a master map
of the seafloor surface.
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{\an1}NICOLA: They start to see
the outlines of columns,
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{\an1}porticos, buildings,
even statues.
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{\an1}The team is able to compare
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{\an1}the written sources
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{\an1}with the archaeological mapping,
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{\an1}and they start to see
correlations.
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{\an1}So, they know from this
that they're on the right track.
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{\an1}It takes years to complete
the first initial map.
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{\an1}They are doing this underwater,
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{\an1}and it is so much more difficult
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{\an1}than doing archaeology
on the land.
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{\an1}But once they have
this master map,
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{\an1}things start to go much quicker.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: In 1998,
Goddio strikes paydirt.
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{\an1}He finds the sunken remains
of Cleopatra's palace.
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{\an1}NICOLA: The palace has been
missing for 2,000 years.
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{\an1}This makes
big international headlines.
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{\an1}ANDREW: The thing is,
the palace is
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{\an1}entirely covered
and filled with mud.
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{\an1}It is very difficult
to excavate and explore.
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{\an1}They're confident
that Cleopatra is there,
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{\an1}but finding her is going
to be extremely difficult.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: After nearly
a decade of searching,
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{\an1}Goddio finds
no trace of the tomb.
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{\an1}In 2008,
Goddio discovers something new.
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{\an1}It's an enormous structure,
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{\an1}as large as a football field.
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{\an1}ANDREW:
Goddio has radiocarbon dates
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{\an1}that he's taken from
organic pieces of the structure.
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{\an1}And these dates show
that it could have been built
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{\an1}during the time of Cleopatra.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
Though the team remains hopeful,
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{\an1}they have not yet
discovered the tomb.
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{\an1}To this day,
Goddio and his team are
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{\an1}still searching, but they have
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{\an1}barely scratched the surface
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{\an1}of this enormous complex.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: When Cleopatra's
palace is found underwater
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{\an1}by archaeologist Frank Goddio,
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{\an1}he believes her tomb should be
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{\an1}somewhere inside.
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{\an1}The last place
we know Cleopatra was
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{\an1}when she was alive
is her palace,
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{\an1}and that was
just discovered underwater
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{\an1}in 1998.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: However,
not everyone's convinced
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{\an1}Goddio will find the tomb.
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{\an1}HUGO: First of all,
underwater exploration
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{\an1}is incredibly difficult.
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{\an1}Secondly,
we believe her tomb was
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{\an1}unfinished when she died.
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{\an1}So the artifacts, relics,
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{\an1}statues, and other signs
that would lead us there,
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{\an1}they weren't put in place yet.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
But there might be another way
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{\an1}to find Cleopatra's tomb.
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{\an1}HUGO: Even though
he dies a traitor,
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{\an1}many Romans are interested
in what becomes of Mark Antony.
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{\an1}He was at one point
a national hero,
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{\an1}and so there's a chance
he'd be easier to track down.
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{\an1}And if we can find Mrk Antony,
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{\an1}we could potentially
find Cleopatra.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: Within a few years
of Mark Antony's death,
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{\an1}several ancient historians
share more details.
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{\an1}HUGO:
The Roman custom at the time is
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{\an1}to cremate great leaders.
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{\an1}Mark Antony is cremated,
Julius Caesar is cremated,
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{\an1}and, after his death,
Octavian will be cremated.
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{\an1}A few decades afterward,
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{\an1}the Greek historian Plutarch
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{\an1}fills in even more details.
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{\an1}Plutarch writes that,
after Mark Antony's death,
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{\an1}Octavian has Cleopatra
as his prisoner.
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{\an1}But he does allow her,
out of clemency,
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{\an1}to go and visit
Mark Antony's tomb.
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{\an1}And when she's there,
she holds the urn
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{\an1}that has his ashes in it,
and she pours out a libation,
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{\an1}as a kind of
act of love and piety.
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{\an1}HUGO:
So apparently Mark Antony
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{\an1}has been given a tomb
for his ashes.
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{\an1}According to Plutarch,
after Cleopatra commits suicide,
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{\an1}Octavian is similarly
generous with her remains
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{\an1}and allows her to be buried
with Mark Antony.
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{\an1}Mark Antony's
final resting place
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{\an1}hasn't been found either,
so there's a chance
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{\an1}that he and the missing
Cleopatra are
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{\an1}out there together somewhere.
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{\an1}NICOLA: Plutarch is
actually the only source
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{\an1}that we have that says
that Cleopatra, after her death,
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{\an1}was placed together with Antony.
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{\an1}We do have other ancient sources
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{\an1}which talk about
Octavian's clemency,
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{\an1}his mercy and compassion
towards his enemies.
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{\an1}HUGO: Despite all the stories
of Octavian's kindness,
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{\an1}many historians
believe he didn't treat
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{\an1}Cleopatra's body
with respect at all.
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{\an1}There's a saying that history is
written by the victors.
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{\an1}That means that authors
in Octavian's time are
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{\an1}generally going to write
great things about him.
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{\an1}Otherwise they might suffer
punishment if they upset him.
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{\an1}NICOLA: As for the accounts
of Plutarch, they were
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{\an1}probably just
embellished over time.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: Octavian himself also
doctors the historical record.
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{\an1}ANDREW: He comes up
with a smear campaign
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{\an1}against Cleopatra, labeling her
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{\an1}an evil seductress and traitor,
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{\an1}someone who used
their feminine wiles
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{\an1}to brainwash Mark Antony.
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{\an1}HUGO: To me, this suggests
that he wouldn't have
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{\an1}given Cleopatra a royal burial
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{\an1}beside Mark Antony.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: Octavian's actions
after Cleopatra's death
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{\an1}also speak volumes.
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{\an1}One of the last acts
that Cleopatra does
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{\an1}before she dies is
she sends her son Caesarion away
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{\an1}away in order to protect him,
but after her death,
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{\an1}Octavian sends people
to go and find him
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{\an1}and have him killed.
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{\an1}He actually does this
by tricking Caesarion
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{\an1}once he's been found.
So he tells Caesarion that,
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{\an1}if he returns to Alexandria,
he'll be made king of Egypt.
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{\an1}But as soon as Caesarion
returns home, he's killed.
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{\an1}The most commonly-told
account says
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{\an1}that one of
Octavian's bodyguards
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{\an1}strangles him to death.
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{\an1}Keep in mind,
this is by the same historians
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{\an1}who say that
Octavian was generous
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{\an1}with Cleopatra and Mark Antony.
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{\an1}This is the cleaned-up
version of the story.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
Octavian's actions don't stop
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{\an1}with Caesarion's murder.
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{\an1}Antony's oldest son
Antyllus is executed...
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{\an1}and Antony's children
with Cleopatra...
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{\an1}he has three of them...
Are actually captured,
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{\an1}and they're taken back to Rome,
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{\an1}where they're paraded in chains
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{\an1}as part of Octavian's
military triumph.
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{\an1}All of this shows
considerable hatred
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{\an1}and contempt
for Mark Antony and Cleopatra.
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{\an1}To the new emperor,
Antony is the man
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{\an1}who left the Triumvirate,
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{\an1}who left his wife,
Octavian's sister,
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{\an1}for another woman,
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{\an1}who left Rome
to go and flee to Egypt.
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{\an1}Cleopatra was the foul temptress
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{\an1}who made it all happen.
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{\an1}I think the prevailing opinion
among today's scholars
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{\an1}is that if you're going to go
digging around Alexandria,
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{\an1}trying to find
a carefully-preserved urn
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{\an1}of Cleopatra's ashes
beside those of Mark Antony,
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{\an1}you're probably
wasting your time.
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{\an1}Once Cleopatra was
of no further value as a trophy,
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{\an1}Octavian probably didn't care
about her or Antony.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
For more than 2,000 years,
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{\an1}the story of Cleopatra's
dramatic suicide
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{\an1}remains mostly unchallenged.
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{\an1}The most famous version
of this suicide
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{\an1}comes from Virgil
in "The Aeneid,"
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{\an1}where he suggests that Cleopatra
gets a snake to bite her,
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{\an1}and that's how she dies.
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{\an1}The story then gets
elaborated on
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{\an1}over the years,
where some authors suggesting
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{\an1}that the snake is
actually an asp.
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{\an1}NICOLA: Plutarch also
supports this idea.
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{\an1}And what he says is
that Cleopatra has the asp
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{\an1}smuggled into the palace
in a basket,
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{\an1}and it was covered over
with figs and leaves
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{\an1}so that nobody could
see it coming in.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: Today, many historians
doubt the snake bite story.
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{\an1}The reason people have
a problem with it
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{\an1}is that, at this point,
Cleopatra is Octavian's prisoner
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{\an1}and under close guard.
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{\an1}Asps are large.
They wriggle and hiss.
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{\an1}So for someone to have
brought in a tray of food
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{\an1}with a snake and for it
to have gone unnoticed,
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{\an1}well, those would have been
the worst guards in history.
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{\an1}NICOLA:
Cleopatra is also no fool.
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{\an1}She knows her science
and her medicine,
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{\an1}and she is smart enough
to figure out
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{\an1}all the things
that could go wrong
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{\an1}with this particular plan.
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{\an1}HUGO: She wouldn't have chosen
a plan with so many variables.
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{\an1}Those who believe
the suicide story think
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{\an1}it's much more likely
Cleopatra simply had
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{\an1}a bottle of poison with her
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{\an1}from the moment
the Romans arrived at her gates.
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{\an1}LAURENCE: In 2013,
bestselling author
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{\an1}and criminal profiler Pat Brown
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{\an1}upends the suicide theory.
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{\an1}ANDREW:
Brown looks at Cleopatra's death
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{\an1}like she would
any other cold case,
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{\an1}as she's been trained to do
throughout her career.
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{\an1}KEVIN: Pat Brown looks
at the evidence,
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{\an1}the wounds,
the placement of the body,
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{\an1}and she wonders
if some of the evidence
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{\an1}was staged
or just completely fabricated.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
Brown's conclusion?
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{\an1}Cleopatra's death isn't suicide.
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{\an1}It's cold-blooded murder.
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{\an1}ANDREW:
Brown starts by taking
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{\an1}the suicide theory
at face value.
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{\an1}She consults
with medical examiners,
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{\an1}with herpetologists,
to understand
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{\an1}all of the in's and out's
of snake poison.
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{\an1}HUGO: According
to the historical accounts,
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{\an1}Cleopatra's two maidservants
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{\an1}also die from poisoning
shortly after she does.
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{\an1}So how exactly does
one snake kill three people?
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{\an1}Is it trained
to bite on command?
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{\an1}Does it even have enough venom
to kill three women?
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{\an1}ANDREW: The most likely
poisonous snakes
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{\an1}that were around
during this time in Egypt
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{\an1}were the cobra and the asp.
402
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{\an1}Although both snakes have
enough venom in them
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{\an1}to kill multiple people,
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{\an1}most of the venom is
actually discharged
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{\an1}in their very first bite.
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{\an1}And after that,
it takes a little while
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{\an1}for them to sort of
recharge and reload.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
Fully replenishing their venom
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{\an1}can take a snake days.
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{\an1}HUGO: They don't need
a full tank to kill someone,
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{\an1}but it would need to be
at least an hour
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{\an1}before someone else
could be killed.
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{\an1}There's another
timing issue as well.
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{\an1}The amount of time it takes
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{\an1}for the snake bite
to kill someone.
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{\an1}ANDREW: Brown points out
that in the hours
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{\an1}before Cleopatra's death,
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{\an1}she's exchanging messages
with Octavian.
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{\an1}Guards and messengers are
going in and out,
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{\an1}and dying from a snake bite
takes hours, and it's agonizing.
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{\an1}So, we're saying that
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{\an1}nobody noticed
this agonizing death
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{\an1}over several hours?
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{\an1}LAURENCE: According to Brown,
the outcome would be the same
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{\an1}even if poison was
smuggled in via a bottle.
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{\an1}HUGO: Once again,
you're left with the same issue.
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{\an1}In fact,
it would take slightly longer
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{\an1}for the venom to take effect
because it has to get
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{\an1}absorbed into
the bloodstream first.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
Once Brown rules out suicide,
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{\an1}she turns her attention
to murder.
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{\an1}ANDREW: As Brown and any good
criminal profiler knows,
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{\an1}murder requires motive.
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{\an1}And who had the most to gain
from Cleopatra's death?
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{\an1}Octavian.
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{\an1}KEVIN: Some people
believe that Octavian
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{\an1}would want to keep
Cleopatra alive
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{\an1}to display her
as a conquered trophy
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{\an1}through the streets of Rome.
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{\an1}He displays the children
of Cleopatra and Mark Antony
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{\an1}exactly in this way.
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{\an1}LAURENCE:
But according to Brown,
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{\an1}Octavian has a stronger motive
to kill Cleopatra
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{\an1}than to keep her alive.
445
00:20:28,458 --> 00:20:31,333
{\an1}NICOLA:
If Cleopatra is still alive,
446
00:20:31,417 --> 00:20:35,500
{\an1}then Octavian would
have somebody
447
00:20:35,583 --> 00:20:39,958
{\an1}who could stand in the way
of his control over Egypt.
448
00:20:40,042 --> 00:20:42,958
{\an1}Cleopatra is the rightful queen.
449
00:20:43,042 --> 00:20:46,625
{\an1}HUGO: Octavian already has
several non-threatening trophies
450
00:20:46,708 --> 00:20:49,667
{\an1}to parade around...
Her younger children.
451
00:20:49,792 --> 00:20:51,958
{\an1}They're too young
to raise an army
452
00:20:52,083 --> 00:20:53,458
{\an1}or seize the throne.
453
00:20:54,667 --> 00:20:58,292
{\an1}LAURENCE: One year
after Brown's book, in 2014,
454
00:20:58,375 --> 00:21:00,500
{\an1}two Greek historians
write an article
455
00:21:00,542 --> 00:21:02,875
{\an1}that reaches
the same conclusion.
456
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:05,708
{\an1}ANDREW: Gregory Tsoucalas
and Markos Sgantzos publish
457
00:21:05,792 --> 00:21:07,458
{\an1}"The Death of Cleopatra:
458
00:21:07,542 --> 00:21:10,792
{\an1}Suicide by Snakebite
or Poisoned by Her Enemies?"
459
00:21:10,875 --> 00:21:14,250
{\an1}In it, they propose
that Egypt's last queen
460
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:17,167
{\an1}was, in fact,
murdered by Octavian.
461
00:21:17,250 --> 00:21:19,375
{\an1}HUGO:
Tsoucalas and Sgantzos say
462
00:21:19,458 --> 00:21:22,167
{\an1}that all the circumstances
point to Cleopatra
463
00:21:22,208 --> 00:21:24,791
{\an1}being killed by a Roman poison,
464
00:21:24,792 --> 00:21:27,125
{\an1}and that means murder.
465
00:21:27,208 --> 00:21:29,292
{\an1}Like all military leaders
of the time,
466
00:21:29,375 --> 00:21:32,208
{\an1}Octavian actually travels
with physicians,
467
00:21:32,292 --> 00:21:34,500
{\an1}and physicians are
trained in poisons.
468
00:21:34,542 --> 00:21:36,250
{\an1}HUGO:
The Romans specialize
469
00:21:36,375 --> 00:21:37,667
{\an1}in a poison that's a mixture
470
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:41,000
{\an1}of hemlock, opium, and aconite.
471
00:21:41,042 --> 00:21:43,625
{\an1}LAURENCE: This poison
induces a deep sleep,
472
00:21:43,708 --> 00:21:46,792
{\an1}resulting in coma, then death.
473
00:21:46,875 --> 00:21:49,041
{\an1}According to Tsoucalas
and Sgantzos,
474
00:21:49,042 --> 00:21:52,000
{\an1}Octavian has Cleopatra
and her servants injected
475
00:21:52,042 --> 00:21:54,500
{\an1}with this Roman poison,
476
00:21:54,625 --> 00:21:57,500
{\an1}possibly even using a needle
that makes it look like
477
00:21:57,583 --> 00:21:59,667
{\an1}they've been bitten by a snake.
478
00:21:59,708 --> 00:22:02,333
{\an1}LAURENCE: Then what happened
to Cleopatra's body?
479
00:22:05,917 --> 00:22:09,333
{\an1}NICOLA: If this is the case,
there is no tomb.
480
00:22:09,375 --> 00:22:11,582
{\an1}Octavian is just kind
of trying to move on
481
00:22:11,583 --> 00:22:14,208
{\an1}from the whole
Cleopatra situation.
482
00:22:14,292 --> 00:22:15,833
{\an1}So, according to their theory,
483
00:22:15,917 --> 00:22:19,625
{\an1}he has her killed
and plants the story
484
00:22:19,708 --> 00:22:23,332
{\an1}of suicide in order to be able
485
00:22:23,333 --> 00:22:24,750
{\an1}to kind of tell a nice story
486
00:22:24,833 --> 00:22:26,750
{\an1}and then move on
as quickly as possible.
487
00:22:26,833 --> 00:22:28,500
{\an1}ANDREW:
If he's smart enough to do that,
488
00:22:28,583 --> 00:22:31,667
{\an1}then he's smart enough
to not build her a tomb.
489
00:22:31,708 --> 00:22:34,082
{\an1}The last thing he needs is
a permanent marker
490
00:22:34,083 --> 00:22:36,082
{\an1}of a once-beloved queen
491
00:22:36,083 --> 00:22:37,792
{\an1}for people to pilgrimage to
492
00:22:37,875 --> 00:22:39,792
{\an1}and make offerings to.
493
00:22:39,875 --> 00:22:42,708
{\an1}HUGO: So, unfortunately,
if you subscribe to this theory,
494
00:22:42,833 --> 00:22:46,333
{\an1}the search for Cleopatra's
lost tomb is pointless.
495
00:22:46,375 --> 00:22:49,167
{\an1}Because Octavian
covered his tracks.
496
00:22:49,292 --> 00:22:52,541
{\an1}Egypt's last pharaoh
never gets a tomb.
497
00:22:52,542 --> 00:22:54,458
{\an1}Her body was destroyed,
498
00:22:54,542 --> 00:22:56,083
{\an1}dumped, and forgotten.
499
00:23:00,042 --> 00:23:02,124
{\an1}For thousands of years,
Cleopatra's story has been
500
00:23:02,125 --> 00:23:04,000
{\an1}entwined with her relationship
501
00:23:04,083 --> 00:23:06,249
{\an1}with Rome's most powerful men.
502
00:23:06,250 --> 00:23:08,375
{\an1}But in 2010,
503
00:23:08,458 --> 00:23:11,583
{\an1}an American archaeologist
finds evidence
504
00:23:11,667 --> 00:23:13,833
{\an1}that upends that notion
505
00:23:13,958 --> 00:23:17,958
{\an1}and offers a new theory
about her final days.
506
00:23:21,167 --> 00:23:25,917
{\an1}In 2010, Ohio State University
Professor Duane Roller
507
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,250
{\an1}publishes
"Cleopatra: A Biography."
508
00:23:29,333 --> 00:23:31,625
{\an1}The real Cleopatra is
509
00:23:31,708 --> 00:23:34,500
{\an1}notoriously difficult to grasp.
510
00:23:34,583 --> 00:23:36,864
{\an1}HUGO: Roller's book is one
of the best-researched accounts
511
00:23:36,917 --> 00:23:38,542
{\an1}of Cleopatra around.
512
00:23:38,625 --> 00:23:40,458
{\an1}In addition to being
an archaeologist,
513
00:23:40,542 --> 00:23:42,250
{\an1}Roller is a classicist.
514
00:23:42,333 --> 00:23:44,500
{\an1}He can read
all of the original accounts
515
00:23:44,583 --> 00:23:46,792
{\an1}in their original Greek
and Latin.
516
00:23:46,917 --> 00:23:49,958
{\an1}Based on an exhaustive search
through the historical record,
517
00:23:50,042 --> 00:23:52,458
{\an1}he believes that
a great deal about Cleopatra
518
00:23:52,542 --> 00:23:56,167
{\an1}has been misunderstood,
and perhaps this can explain
519
00:23:56,250 --> 00:23:59,333
{\an1}what happens to her
after she dies.
520
00:23:59,417 --> 00:24:01,500
{\an1}First of all,
Roller is convinced that
521
00:24:01,583 --> 00:24:04,333
{\an1}Cleopatra is not subservient
522
00:24:04,375 --> 00:24:08,292
{\an1}to her Roman lovers
or even to Rome at all.
523
00:24:08,375 --> 00:24:11,542
{\an1}LAURENCE: According to Roller,
she carefully manipulates them
524
00:24:11,625 --> 00:24:14,500
{\an1}to keep her kingdom intact.
525
00:24:14,625 --> 00:24:16,958
{\an1}DUANE ROLLER: When Cleopatra
came to the throne,
526
00:24:17,042 --> 00:24:21,500
{\an1}she had three surviving siblings
who did not get along.
527
00:24:21,583 --> 00:24:24,292
{\an1}There's all kind of
sibling rivalry.
528
00:24:24,375 --> 00:24:25,851
{\an1}PATRICIA: Cleopatra's
Egypt is probably
529
00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:28,083
{\an1}about to be split in three parts
530
00:24:28,208 --> 00:24:30,667
{\an1}until she convinces
Julius Caesar to help.
531
00:24:30,792 --> 00:24:33,625
{\an1}ANDREW: She does this
in a rather ingenious way.
532
00:24:33,708 --> 00:24:36,542
{\an1}Roman sources tell us
that she has herself
533
00:24:36,625 --> 00:24:38,667
{\an1}wrapped in a carpet and smuggled
534
00:24:38,708 --> 00:24:40,333
{\an1}into Caesar's quarters.
535
00:24:40,458 --> 00:24:43,000
{\an1}When he unrolls
this mysterious gift,
536
00:24:43,042 --> 00:24:45,333
{\an1}there she is
in all her regal finery,
537
00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:49,667
{\an1}ready to negotiate a deal
to save Egypt.
538
00:24:49,708 --> 00:24:53,792
{\an1}After Caesar's death,
Cleopatra carefully researches
539
00:24:53,875 --> 00:24:55,375
{\an1}his successors.
540
00:24:55,500 --> 00:24:57,582
{\an1}DUANE: When Antony comes
to the east,
541
00:24:57,583 --> 00:24:59,667
{\an1}she very quickly realizes
542
00:24:59,750 --> 00:25:02,625
{\an1}he is a person to be cultivated.
543
00:25:02,708 --> 00:25:04,917
{\an1}HUGO: She learns that
Mark Antony believes himself
544
00:25:05,042 --> 00:25:08,083
{\an1}to be the embodiment
of the Greek god Dionysus.
545
00:25:08,208 --> 00:25:12,083
{\an1}And so she hatches
a clever plan to earn his favor.
546
00:25:13,208 --> 00:25:16,917
{\an1}LAURENCE: Dionysus is
the god of wine and pleasure,
547
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,875
{\an1}a fact Cleopatra uses
to her advantage
548
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,750
{\an1}when she first meets
Antony in 41 B.C.
549
00:25:23,833 --> 00:25:25,957
{\an1}Knowing his Dionysus fetish,
550
00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:28,667
{\an1}she arrives dressed up
as the Greek goddess Aphrodite,
551
00:25:28,708 --> 00:25:31,667
{\an1}being fanned by attendants
dressed as Cupids.
552
00:25:31,708 --> 00:25:34,958
{\an1}Almost immediately,
Antony is willing to do
553
00:25:35,042 --> 00:25:37,875
{\an1}just about anything
Cleopatra asks of him.
554
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,000
{\an1}While these stories show cunning
on Cleopatra's part,
555
00:25:42,125 --> 00:25:45,875
{\an1}they suggest that her main tool
for manipulation was sex.
556
00:25:45,958 --> 00:25:48,583
{\an1}But Roller believes
that that was not the case.
557
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,833
{\an1}LAURENCE: Instead,
Roller believes Cleopatra uses
558
00:25:53,875 --> 00:25:57,000
{\an1}her negotiation skills
to survive.
559
00:25:57,083 --> 00:25:59,375
{\an1}ANDREW: Despite being
a smaller kingdom
560
00:25:59,458 --> 00:26:01,625
{\an1}with a less powerful military,
561
00:26:01,708 --> 00:26:04,333
{\an1}Egypt had a lot more money
than Rome.
562
00:26:04,417 --> 00:26:09,208
{\an1}Cleopatra, as it turns out,
was phenomenally wealthy.
563
00:26:09,292 --> 00:26:11,333
{\an1}I believe it's her wealth
564
00:26:11,458 --> 00:26:13,832
{\an1}and not her sexual prowess
565
00:26:13,833 --> 00:26:17,000
{\an1}that ultimately dictates
how Cleopatra lived
566
00:26:17,042 --> 00:26:18,792
{\an1}and how she died.
567
00:26:18,875 --> 00:26:20,833
{\an1}HUGO:
Roller examines the work
568
00:26:20,917 --> 00:26:23,083
{\an1}of the Roman historian
Cassius Dio.
569
00:26:23,208 --> 00:26:24,625
{\an1}In it, he discovers that
570
00:26:24,708 --> 00:26:27,375
{\an1}Mark Antony initially
comes to Cleopatra
571
00:26:27,458 --> 00:26:29,375
{\an1}because he needs
her financial support
572
00:26:29,458 --> 00:26:32,500
{\an1}to pay off
Rome's armies and debts.
573
00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:35,500
{\an1}DUANE: According to Dio,
Cleopatra and Antony had
574
00:26:35,583 --> 00:26:37,167
{\an1}a financial relationship,
575
00:26:37,208 --> 00:26:40,083
{\an1}and who knows whether
it was all that he needed?
576
00:26:40,208 --> 00:26:43,250
{\an1}But it certainly helped
to sustain him financially,
577
00:26:43,333 --> 00:26:46,917
{\an1}especially as sources
began to dry up in Rome.
578
00:26:48,125 --> 00:26:51,167
{\an1}LAURENCE: When Octavian
defeats Antony in 30 B.C.,
579
00:26:51,208 --> 00:26:54,167
{\an1}he intends to seize
Cleopatra's treasure.
580
00:26:54,292 --> 00:26:57,458
{\an1}But she has other plans.
581
00:26:57,542 --> 00:26:59,167
{\an1}HUGO: Roller finds
evidence that,
582
00:26:59,208 --> 00:27:02,708
{\an1}in those final days,
Cleopatra takes action.
583
00:27:02,833 --> 00:27:05,750
{\an1}She isn't about to let
Octavian get the upper hand.
584
00:27:05,833 --> 00:27:08,875
{\an1}She still has
one final play to make.
585
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,667
{\an1}ANDREW:
Cleopatra has her servants
586
00:27:10,708 --> 00:27:13,500
{\an1}gather up her wealth,
everything they can grab,
587
00:27:13,583 --> 00:27:15,249
{\an1}and she has them amass it
588
00:27:15,250 --> 00:27:19,167
{\an1}in the safest place she knows:
her own mausoleum.
589
00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:22,042
{\an1}The rest she orders hidden.
590
00:27:22,125 --> 00:27:24,750
{\an1}When Octavian's forces
arrive inside,
591
00:27:24,833 --> 00:27:26,875
{\an1}she dramatically
holds up a torch
592
00:27:26,958 --> 00:27:28,833
{\an1}and threatens to kill herself
593
00:27:28,917 --> 00:27:31,208
{\an1}and take
all the treasure with her.
594
00:27:31,292 --> 00:27:33,958
{\an1}HUGO: If this is true,
this is an ingenious move.
595
00:27:34,042 --> 00:27:36,458
{\an1}Cleopatra knows the only thing
596
00:27:36,542 --> 00:27:39,125
{\an1}Octavian needs from her
is her money,
597
00:27:39,250 --> 00:27:42,500
{\an1}and she can use that
as a bargaining tool.
598
00:27:42,583 --> 00:27:44,541
{\an1}LAURENCE: According
to Roller's research,
599
00:27:44,542 --> 00:27:46,125
{\an1}Cleopatra begins
600
00:27:46,208 --> 00:27:49,167
{\an1}an extended negotiation
with Octavian.
601
00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:52,000
{\an1}She offers to support him
and give over her treasure,
602
00:27:52,083 --> 00:27:54,958
{\an1}if he agrees
to meet certain conditions.
603
00:27:55,042 --> 00:27:57,625
{\an1}ANDREW: Here, she is
holding her wealth hostage
604
00:27:57,708 --> 00:28:00,833
{\an1}and giving herself time
to make other plans.
605
00:28:00,875 --> 00:28:03,333
{\an1}Among those plans,
she finds a way
606
00:28:03,375 --> 00:28:05,583
{\an1}to smuggle her son out of town.
607
00:28:05,667 --> 00:28:08,250
{\an1}Next, she has
to make plans for herself.
608
00:28:09,458 --> 00:28:10,833
{\an1}Roller cites the account
609
00:28:10,917 --> 00:28:13,125
{\an1}of the Roman historian
Titus Livius.
610
00:28:13,208 --> 00:28:15,500
{\an1}In one of Cleopatra's
final exchanges
611
00:28:15,542 --> 00:28:17,583
{\an1}with Octavian, she writes,
612
00:28:17,708 --> 00:28:20,792
{\an1}"I will not be led
in triumph."
613
00:28:20,875 --> 00:28:22,708
{\an1}This is one of
the few times any historian
614
00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:25,917
{\an1}bothers to write
her specific words down,
615
00:28:26,042 --> 00:28:28,917
{\an1}and it gives us a clue
as to what she intended next.
616
00:28:30,583 --> 00:28:32,541
{\an1}LAURENCE: Roller writes
that Cleopatra then
617
00:28:32,542 --> 00:28:35,708
{\an1}orchestrates her own death
by poisoning,
618
00:28:35,792 --> 00:28:39,833
{\an1}which takes place
in August of 30 B.C.
619
00:28:39,875 --> 00:28:41,375
{\an1}NICOLA:
If she's planned this out
620
00:28:41,458 --> 00:28:43,292
{\an1}down to the last detail,
621
00:28:43,375 --> 00:28:45,333
{\an1}many historians believe
622
00:28:45,375 --> 00:28:47,167
{\an1}that she made
623
00:28:47,208 --> 00:28:48,833
{\an1}one final arrangement.
624
00:28:48,917 --> 00:28:50,333
{\an1}And that explains why her tomb
625
00:28:50,417 --> 00:28:52,417
{\an1}has yet to be found.
626
00:28:56,250 --> 00:28:59,167
{\an1}HUGO: Upon her death,
Cleopatra orders her body
627
00:28:59,250 --> 00:29:03,000
{\an1}smuggled out of the palace
and buried in an unmarked grave.
628
00:29:03,042 --> 00:29:06,792
{\an1}This way, her enemies will
never find her.
629
00:29:06,875 --> 00:29:09,875
{\an1}Is it possible she pulled
this off to have her body
630
00:29:09,958 --> 00:29:13,500
{\an1}smuggled out of a palace
swarming with Roman soldiers?
631
00:29:13,583 --> 00:29:15,500
{\an1}I think the answer is yes.
632
00:29:15,583 --> 00:29:17,792
{\an1}PATRICIA: Cleopatra had
so much wealth,
633
00:29:17,875 --> 00:29:20,167
{\an1}she could have bribed
every Roman in the palace.
634
00:29:20,208 --> 00:29:22,000
{\an1}This is how she could have
made arrangements
635
00:29:22,042 --> 00:29:24,083
{\an1}for her secret burial.
636
00:29:24,167 --> 00:29:27,792
{\an1}LAURENCE: If Cleopatra was
successful, where is her tomb?
637
00:29:27,875 --> 00:29:29,458
{\an1}NICOLA:
So if this is the case,
638
00:29:29,542 --> 00:29:33,000
{\an1}and Cleopatra made
her own funeral arrangements,
639
00:29:33,083 --> 00:29:36,458
{\an1}that means that we would
have to stop looking
640
00:29:36,542 --> 00:29:40,208
{\an1}for any kind of evidence
of a Roman-style burial
641
00:29:40,292 --> 00:29:42,042
{\an1}in ash urns
642
00:29:42,125 --> 00:29:45,208
{\an1}and start thinking
like an Egyptian.
643
00:29:45,333 --> 00:29:47,458
{\an1}HUGO: This would mean
Cleopatra didn't end up
644
00:29:47,542 --> 00:29:49,417
{\an1}in Alexandria at all.
645
00:29:49,542 --> 00:29:51,708
{\an1}Now, we have a whole new world
646
00:29:51,792 --> 00:29:57,249
{\an1}of possibilities to explore.
647
00:29:57,250 --> 00:29:59,707
{\an1}LAURENCE: In 2002,
Dominican attorney
648
00:29:59,708 --> 00:30:02,458
{\an1}Kathleen Martínez
sets out to find
649
00:30:02,542 --> 00:30:05,000
{\an1}Cleopatra's lost tomb.
650
00:30:06,042 --> 00:30:07,667
{\an1}HUGO: Ever since
she was a young child,
651
00:30:07,833 --> 00:30:10,833
{\an1}Martínez has been
fascinated with Egypt.
652
00:30:10,917 --> 00:30:13,167
{\an1}Her family encouraged
the law career.
653
00:30:13,292 --> 00:30:15,333
{\an1}But eventually,
she gives it all up
654
00:30:15,375 --> 00:30:18,292
{\an1}to become
an archaeologist in Egypt.
655
00:30:18,375 --> 00:30:21,000
{\an1}NICOLA: The one mystery
that she wants to solve
656
00:30:21,083 --> 00:30:24,542
{\an1}beyond anything else is
the mystery of Cleopatra's tomb.
657
00:30:24,625 --> 00:30:26,667
{\an1}Like many modern day historians,
658
00:30:26,750 --> 00:30:30,542
{\an1}she respects
and admires Cleopatra
659
00:30:30,625 --> 00:30:32,375
{\an1}as a brilliant queen.
660
00:30:32,458 --> 00:30:35,333
{\an1}And she can't imagine
that a queen would have
661
00:30:35,417 --> 00:30:38,583
{\an1}allowed herself to be
desecrated after death.
662
00:30:38,667 --> 00:30:42,250
{\an1}ANDREW: Martínez believes
that Cleopatra is way too smart
663
00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:45,042
{\an1}not to have seen
her own death coming.
664
00:30:45,125 --> 00:30:47,000
{\an1}She knows that
Octavian is either
665
00:30:47,042 --> 00:30:49,958
{\an1}going to have her executed
or use her as a puppet
666
00:30:50,042 --> 00:30:51,792
{\an1}by parading her around.
667
00:30:51,875 --> 00:30:53,708
{\an1}So she plans for her death
668
00:30:53,792 --> 00:30:55,292
{\an1}and has her handmaidens
669
00:30:55,375 --> 00:30:57,667
{\an1}smuggle her body
out of Alexandria.
670
00:30:57,708 --> 00:30:59,167
{\an1}But where do you look?
671
00:30:59,208 --> 00:31:02,917
{\an1}Martínez believes
that she has the answer.
672
00:31:03,042 --> 00:31:06,874
{\an1}LAURENCE: Like many pharaohs,
Cleopatra shapes her image
673
00:31:06,875 --> 00:31:09,333
{\an1}around one of the Egyptian gods.
674
00:31:09,417 --> 00:31:12,000
{\an1}During her reign,
Cleopatra considers herself
675
00:31:12,083 --> 00:31:14,250
{\an1}a living representation of Isis,
676
00:31:14,375 --> 00:31:17,083
{\an1}a goddess of fertility
and motherhood
677
00:31:17,167 --> 00:31:19,457
{\an1}and wife to the god-king Osiris.
678
00:31:19,458 --> 00:31:23,167
{\an1}If Cleopatra was able to choose
her own resting place,
679
00:31:23,208 --> 00:31:25,500
{\an1}Martínez is confident
it would have been
680
00:31:25,583 --> 00:31:28,375
{\an1}a temple of Isis or Osiris.
681
00:31:34,125 --> 00:31:37,667
{\an1}ANDREW: The problem is,
there are a lot of temples
682
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:40,958
{\an1}dedicated
to both Isis and Osiris.
683
00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:44,792
{\an1}To locate the right one,
Dr. Martínez relies
684
00:31:44,875 --> 00:31:47,708
{\an1}on Greek geographer
Strabo's descriptions
685
00:31:47,833 --> 00:31:49,333
{\an1}of ancient Egypt.
686
00:31:49,417 --> 00:31:51,000
{\an1}PATRICIA:
Based on Strabo's writing,
687
00:31:51,083 --> 00:31:53,749
{\an1}Martínez locates 21 temples
688
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:56,250
{\an1}associated with Osiris and Isis.
689
00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:58,667
{\an1}She looks at these 21 locations
690
00:31:58,708 --> 00:32:00,750
{\an1}and realizes
that almost all of them
691
00:32:00,833 --> 00:32:02,583
{\an1}have already been
thoroughly explored.
692
00:32:02,667 --> 00:32:04,375
{\an1}All except one:
the temple
693
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,750
{\an1}at the ancient ruins
of Taposiris Magna.
694
00:32:07,833 --> 00:32:09,625
{\an1}Looking at the scant
historical records,
695
00:32:09,708 --> 00:32:12,333
{\an1}Martínez believes it's only
been lightly surveyed,
696
00:32:12,417 --> 00:32:16,458
{\an1}and it's only 30 miles
from Alexandria.
697
00:32:16,542 --> 00:32:18,333
{\an1}This must be the place.
698
00:32:18,417 --> 00:32:20,542
{\an1}NICOLA: Martínez gets
in touch with Egypt's
699
00:32:20,625 --> 00:32:23,292
{\an1}chief archaeologist,
a man called Zahi Hawass,
700
00:32:23,375 --> 00:32:26,958
{\an1}who agrees to show her
around Taposiris Magna.
701
00:32:27,042 --> 00:32:28,667
{\an1}PATRICIA:
From the moment she arrives,
702
00:32:28,708 --> 00:32:32,500
{\an1}she feels certain that the great
Queen Cleopatra is here.
703
00:32:32,542 --> 00:32:35,250
{\an1}LAURENCE:
In order to excavate the site,
704
00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:39,208
{\an1}Dr. Martínez needs permission
from the Egyptian government.
705
00:32:39,292 --> 00:32:41,708
{\an1}Initially, the Egyptians
kind of make fun of her.
706
00:32:41,792 --> 00:32:43,750
{\an1}They blow her off
because, after all,
707
00:32:43,833 --> 00:32:48,083
{\an1}what would a lawyer by trade
708
00:32:48,167 --> 00:32:51,167
{\an1}know about
ancient Egyptian archaeology?
709
00:32:51,208 --> 00:32:53,125
{\an1}ANDREW:
But Martínez persists,
710
00:32:53,208 --> 00:32:57,292
{\an1}and she agrees to fund
the venture entirely on her own.
711
00:32:57,375 --> 00:32:59,333
{\an1}Finally, they do
grant her a license,
712
00:32:59,417 --> 00:33:02,958
{\an1}the first ever given
to a Latin American expedition.
713
00:33:03,042 --> 00:33:04,833
{\an1}There's just one catch:
714
00:33:04,917 --> 00:33:08,667
{\an1}the license is only good
for eight weeks.
715
00:33:08,750 --> 00:33:11,500
{\an1}HUGO: Anyone who knows anything
about archaeological digs
716
00:33:11,583 --> 00:33:14,375
{\an1}knows that this is
an impossible challenge.
717
00:33:14,458 --> 00:33:18,125
{\an1}Excavations are
a slow and tedious process.
718
00:33:18,208 --> 00:33:21,417
{\an1}It can take eight months
to find a single artifact,
719
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:24,833
{\an1}and once you find it,
it can take a long time
720
00:33:24,958 --> 00:33:26,958
{\an1}to excavate it safely.
721
00:33:27,042 --> 00:33:28,583
{\an1}So an eight week deadline
722
00:33:28,667 --> 00:33:31,042
{\an1}to excavate an entire site
723
00:33:31,125 --> 00:33:34,000
{\an1}really limits
what you're able to do.
724
00:33:34,083 --> 00:33:36,958
{\an1}LAURENCE: Undeterred,
Martínez and her team
725
00:33:37,042 --> 00:33:41,292
{\an1}start digging
at Taposiris Magna in 2004.
726
00:33:41,375 --> 00:33:44,250
{\an1}The clock is ticking down.
For seven whole weeks,
727
00:33:44,333 --> 00:33:46,958
{\an1}Martínez finds
absolutely nothing.
728
00:33:47,042 --> 00:33:49,625
{\an1}And then, almost like
something out of a movie,
729
00:33:49,708 --> 00:33:52,375
{\an1}on the last day of the dig,
730
00:33:52,458 --> 00:33:55,625
{\an1}Martínez discovers
what looks to be
731
00:33:55,708 --> 00:33:57,000
{\an1}a hidden shaft
732
00:33:57,083 --> 00:33:59,625
{\an1}by the north gate of the temple.
733
00:34:02,375 --> 00:34:03,958
{\an1}LAURENCE:
Inside the shaft,
734
00:34:04,042 --> 00:34:07,250
{\an1}she discovers
two secret chambers.
735
00:34:07,333 --> 00:34:10,500
{\an1}And in those chambers, Martínez
finds something important.
736
00:34:10,542 --> 00:34:14,500
{\an1}These are small gray tablets
with Greek inscriptions.
737
00:34:14,542 --> 00:34:18,167
{\an1}The tablets Martínez finds are
called foundation deposits.
738
00:34:18,208 --> 00:34:20,167
{\an1}During constructions
of the time,
739
00:34:20,250 --> 00:34:23,042
{\an1}tablets like that were
left behind to give information
740
00:34:23,125 --> 00:34:25,958
{\an1}on the construction
of the building.
741
00:34:26,042 --> 00:34:27,833
{\an1}KEVIN: When Martínez
cleans the tablets
742
00:34:27,917 --> 00:34:29,184
{\an1}and reads the Greek,
she learns that
743
00:34:29,208 --> 00:34:31,042
{\an1}the Taposiris Magna complex
744
00:34:31,125 --> 00:34:33,917
{\an1}was built by Ptolemy IV,
745
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,500
{\an1}Cleopatra's great-great-
great grandfather.
746
00:34:37,583 --> 00:34:40,000
{\an1}HUGO: Initially,
people thought Martínez's theory
747
00:34:40,083 --> 00:34:42,250
{\an1}was far-fetched.
They believed that
748
00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:44,500
{\an1}no one was digging
at Taposiris Magna
749
00:34:44,625 --> 00:34:46,542
{\an1}because there was
nothing to find.
750
00:34:46,625 --> 00:34:49,458
{\an1}Now, Martínez has
found something.
751
00:34:51,083 --> 00:34:53,250
{\an1}LAURENCE: The Egyptian
government allows Martínez
752
00:34:53,333 --> 00:34:55,042
{\an1}to extend the dig.
753
00:34:55,125 --> 00:34:57,042
{\an1}Energized by their find,
754
00:34:57,125 --> 00:34:59,542
{\an1}the team brings in
new technology.
755
00:34:59,625 --> 00:35:02,292
{\an1}NICOLA: In 2008,
Martínez and her team
756
00:35:02,375 --> 00:35:04,333
{\an1}bring in
ground-penetrating radar.
757
00:35:04,417 --> 00:35:07,125
{\an1}And they're quickly able
to ascertain
758
00:35:07,208 --> 00:35:09,167
{\an1}that there are
a whole series of tunnels
759
00:35:09,250 --> 00:35:11,167
{\an1}underneath Taposiris Magna,
760
00:35:11,250 --> 00:35:14,250
{\an1}about 68 feet
beneath the surface.
761
00:35:14,333 --> 00:35:16,667
{\an1}And just below these corridors,
762
00:35:16,750 --> 00:35:24,750
{\an1}they find something that
just makes their jaws drop.
763
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:28,957
{\an1}LAURENCE: In 2008,
archaeologist Kathleen Martínez
764
00:35:28,958 --> 00:35:31,500
{\an1}and her team are
exploring the ruins
765
00:35:31,583 --> 00:35:34,667
{\an1}of the Egyptian temple
of Taposiris Magna.
766
00:35:34,750 --> 00:35:38,708
{\an1}They're looking
for Cleopatra's tomb.
767
00:35:39,708 --> 00:35:42,207
{\an1}ANDREW: As they sweep the area
with ground-penetrating radar,
768
00:35:42,208 --> 00:35:44,207
{\an1}they suddenly see
what appears to be
769
00:35:44,208 --> 00:35:47,000
{\an1}a network
of underground corridors.
770
00:35:47,083 --> 00:35:50,500
{\an1}And these corridors lead
to multiple chambers.
771
00:35:50,542 --> 00:35:54,167
{\an1}Martínez believes that
these are burial chambers.
772
00:35:54,250 --> 00:35:57,875
{\an1}Martínez is not about
to miss this discovery.
773
00:35:57,958 --> 00:35:59,333
{\an1}She's going in herself.
774
00:35:59,375 --> 00:36:01,500
{\an1}She has her team lower her down
775
00:36:01,542 --> 00:36:03,917
{\an1}into the tunnels themselves.
776
00:36:04,042 --> 00:36:07,167
{\an1}HUGO: From there, she enters
into one of the chambers,
777
00:36:07,250 --> 00:36:09,458
{\an1}and she finds
the head of a statue.
778
00:36:09,542 --> 00:36:12,458
{\an1}And can you believe it?
It's Cleopatra.
779
00:36:14,375 --> 00:36:18,333
{\an1}She also finds a mask
that resembles Mark Antony.
780
00:36:18,458 --> 00:36:20,083
{\an1}PATRICIA:
It's extraordinary to think
781
00:36:20,208 --> 00:36:21,750
{\an1}that other archaeological teams
782
00:36:21,833 --> 00:36:23,333
{\an1}have explored this site
783
00:36:23,375 --> 00:36:25,375
{\an1}and declared that
there was nothing to find,
784
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:28,917
{\an1}when all these wonderful
artifacts have been discovered.
785
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,833
{\an1}LAURENCE: Next,
Martínez and her team
786
00:36:31,875 --> 00:36:35,125
{\an1}uncover hundreds
of bronze coins.
787
00:36:35,208 --> 00:36:38,791
{\an1}ANDREW: These coins bear
the image of Cleopatra,
788
00:36:38,792 --> 00:36:41,458
{\an1}so obviously they're
from the time of Cleopatra.
789
00:36:41,542 --> 00:36:45,000
{\an1}They also suggest that
this is a place of pilgrimage
790
00:36:45,083 --> 00:36:47,333
{\an1}for Egyptians
who left those coins.
791
00:36:47,375 --> 00:36:49,542
{\an1}KEVIN: With each
of these discoveries,
792
00:36:49,625 --> 00:36:52,292
{\an1}the team becomes
increasingly convinced
793
00:36:52,375 --> 00:36:54,042
{\an1}that they're going to find
794
00:36:54,167 --> 00:36:55,792
{\an1}the tomb of Cleopatra.
795
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,875
{\an1}LAURENCE: But just as Martínez
believes she's on the verge
796
00:36:59,958 --> 00:37:01,292
{\an1}of a major breakthrough,
797
00:37:01,375 --> 00:37:03,417
{\an1}unrest in North Africa
798
00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:06,250
{\an1}brings her progress to a halt.
799
00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:10,166
{\an1}Democracy, democracy,
let us live in liberty.
800
00:37:10,167 --> 00:37:13,000
{\an1}ANDREW: It's complete chaos
in the Arab world.
801
00:37:13,083 --> 00:37:15,667
{\an1}You have Libya's leader,
Muammar Gaddafi,
802
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:18,333
{\an1}who is deposed
and also murdered.
803
00:37:18,458 --> 00:37:21,333
{\an1}And then, in 2011,
Egyptian president
804
00:37:21,417 --> 00:37:24,667
{\an1}Hosni Mubarak is overthrown.
805
00:37:24,708 --> 00:37:26,833
{\an1}LAURENCE: With all
of Egypt in turmoil,
806
00:37:26,875 --> 00:37:31,333
{\an1}Dr. Martínez has no choice
but to suspend her dig.
807
00:37:31,417 --> 00:37:33,708
{\an1}ANDREW: This is a worst case
scenario for Martínez,
808
00:37:33,833 --> 00:37:36,833
{\an1}because once
an expedition is suspended,
809
00:37:36,958 --> 00:37:38,833
{\an1}there is no guarantee that
810
00:37:38,875 --> 00:37:40,333
{\an1}it will ever start up again.
811
00:37:41,375 --> 00:37:43,750
{\an1}LAURENCE:
Fortunately, in 2014,
812
00:37:43,833 --> 00:37:46,125
{\an1}stability returns.
813
00:37:46,208 --> 00:37:49,000
{\an1}KEVIN: The project is able
to start again,
814
00:37:49,042 --> 00:37:50,583
{\an1}and they discover new artifacts,
815
00:37:50,708 --> 00:37:53,208
{\an1}more links to Cleopatra herself,
816
00:37:53,292 --> 00:37:56,082
{\an1}but no tomb.
817
00:37:56,083 --> 00:37:57,226
{\an1}PATRICIA:
Martínez doesn't give up.
818
00:37:57,250 --> 00:37:59,375
{\an1}In 2021, she finds
819
00:37:59,458 --> 00:38:01,500
{\an1}16 more burial chambers
820
00:38:01,542 --> 00:38:03,833
{\an1}with many skeletons and mummies.
821
00:38:03,875 --> 00:38:05,707
{\an1}Two of these mummies are
822
00:38:05,708 --> 00:38:07,833
{\an1}incredibly special,
because they appear
823
00:38:07,875 --> 00:38:11,667
{\an1}to be royalty and buried
side by side, like lovers.
824
00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:14,000
{\an1}One of them is adorned
with a crown
825
00:38:14,042 --> 00:38:16,000
{\an1}that's decorated with horns.
826
00:38:16,042 --> 00:38:18,042
{\an1}The other has gilded decorations
827
00:38:18,125 --> 00:38:20,375
{\an1}that look like a wide necklace.
828
00:38:20,458 --> 00:38:22,667
{\an1}Most importantly,
the two mummies have
829
00:38:22,708 --> 00:38:26,792
{\an1}golden tongues nestled
in their jawbones.
830
00:38:26,875 --> 00:38:29,250
{\an1}Golden tongues are
a very important part
831
00:38:29,333 --> 00:38:31,333
{\an1}of ancient Egyptian culture.
832
00:38:31,375 --> 00:38:34,583
{\an1}In the Book of the Dead,
gold tongues ensure
833
00:38:34,667 --> 00:38:37,000
{\an1}that the deceased will
be able to speak,
834
00:38:37,083 --> 00:38:40,167
{\an1}eat and drink in the afterlife.
835
00:38:40,208 --> 00:38:43,083
{\an1}NICOLA:
A crown, golden tongues,
836
00:38:43,167 --> 00:38:45,333
{\an1}gilded decorations.
837
00:38:45,417 --> 00:38:48,000
{\an1}This was obviously the tomb
838
00:38:48,125 --> 00:38:50,750
{\an1}of no ordinary couple.
839
00:38:50,875 --> 00:38:52,500
{\an1}LAURENCE:
Could these possibly be
840
00:38:52,625 --> 00:38:56,499
{\an1}the mummified bodies
of Antony and Cleopatra?
841
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:58,625
{\an1}ANDREW: The mummies are
eventually X-rayed,
842
00:38:58,708 --> 00:39:01,417
{\an1}and while it is found
that they are male and female,
843
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:04,208
{\an1}no further identification
can be made.
844
00:39:04,333 --> 00:39:06,167
{\an1}Martínez concludes that,
while the mummies
845
00:39:06,208 --> 00:39:08,500
{\an1}are promising,
if this really was
846
00:39:08,542 --> 00:39:11,375
{\an1}the tomb of Cleopatra,
it would probably be
847
00:39:11,458 --> 00:39:14,208
{\an1}much grander... but who knows?
848
00:39:14,333 --> 00:39:17,375
{\an1}If Cleopatra and Antony had
to be smuggled out
849
00:39:17,458 --> 00:39:20,417
{\an1}at the last minute, maybe
the tomb wouldn't be so grand.
850
00:39:21,625 --> 00:39:25,042
{\an1}LAURENCE: A year later,
Dr. Martínez's team makes
851
00:39:25,125 --> 00:39:28,208
{\an1}an even more exciting discovery.
852
00:39:28,292 --> 00:39:31,500
{\an1}PATRICIA: Recently,
in 2022, Martínez's team
853
00:39:31,583 --> 00:39:34,167
{\an1}found a long tunnel,
60 feet underground.
854
00:39:34,292 --> 00:39:36,042
{\an1}ANDREW: The tunnel is attached
855
00:39:36,125 --> 00:39:38,333
{\an1}to a newly-found temple of Isis
856
00:39:38,375 --> 00:39:40,125
{\an1}that's part of the complex.
857
00:39:40,208 --> 00:39:41,625
{\an1}This is where
Martínez believes that
858
00:39:41,708 --> 00:39:44,125
{\an1}Cleopatra and possibly Antony
859
00:39:44,208 --> 00:39:45,875
{\an1}are both buried.
860
00:39:45,958 --> 00:39:49,083
{\an1}KEVIN: If Cleopatra does
in fact have a tomb,
861
00:39:49,167 --> 00:39:52,167
{\an1}I think Martínez really is
looking in the right direction.
862
00:39:52,250 --> 00:39:54,207
{\an1}And what she has produced so far
863
00:39:54,208 --> 00:39:56,625
{\an1}only strengthens her theory
864
00:39:56,708 --> 00:39:59,417
{\an1}that she is looking
in the right place.
865
00:39:59,542 --> 00:40:02,000
{\an1}I think that
this is a possibility,
866
00:40:02,125 --> 00:40:05,167
{\an1}although there are a lot
of possibilities out there.
867
00:40:05,250 --> 00:40:07,208
{\an1}No matter what,
868
00:40:07,292 --> 00:40:10,791
{\an1}the investigations
at Taposiris Magna
869
00:40:10,792 --> 00:40:13,750
{\an1}will give us more information
than we had before.
870
00:40:13,833 --> 00:40:15,582
{\an1}And it looks like it'll give us
871
00:40:15,583 --> 00:40:18,333
{\an1}more information
on the time of Cleopatra
872
00:40:18,417 --> 00:40:20,125
{\an1}and hopefully Cleopatra herself.
873
00:40:24,375 --> 00:40:26,500
{\an1}In the hunt for Cleopatra,
874
00:40:26,542 --> 00:40:28,208
{\an1}Kathleen Martínez may have
875
00:40:28,292 --> 00:40:30,083
{\an1}her work cut out for her.
876
00:40:30,208 --> 00:40:32,125
{\an1}The new section she's exploring
877
00:40:32,208 --> 00:40:33,500
{\an1}at Taposiris Magna
878
00:40:33,625 --> 00:40:36,208
{\an1}is mostly underwater.
879
00:40:36,292 --> 00:40:38,500
{\an1}Undeterred, Martínez calls
880
00:40:38,583 --> 00:40:40,542
{\an1}this phase of her dig, quote,
881
00:40:40,625 --> 00:40:43,083
{\an1}the beginning of a new journey.
882
00:40:43,167 --> 00:40:44,500
{\an1}Only time will tell
883
00:40:44,583 --> 00:40:46,500
{\an1}if she's on the right track.
884
00:40:46,542 --> 00:40:48,125
{\an1}I'm Laurence Fishburne.
885
00:40:48,208 --> 00:40:49,375
{\an1}Thank you for watching
886
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:52,000
{\an1}"History's Greatest Mysteries."
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