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All right. 5 00:00:16,808 --> 00:00:19,352 [man] Glad to have you in Mississippi. 6 00:00:19,394 --> 00:00:21,312 Governor, welcome to Mississippi. 7 00:00:21,354 --> 00:00:22,897 Thank you so much for coming again. 8 00:00:22,939 --> 00:00:26,860 dramatic music 9 00:00:26,901 --> 00:00:31,197 [cheers and applause] 10 00:00:38,663 --> 00:00:41,041 [helicopter blades whirring] 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:51,134 [cheers and applause] 12 00:00:57,557 --> 00:01:00,977 [cheering] 13 00:01:01,019 --> 00:01:02,729 [helicopter blades whirring] 14 00:01:02,771 --> 00:01:05,315 [crowd] R, R, R-E-A. 15 00:01:05,356 --> 00:01:08,026 G, G, G-A-N. 16 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:10,653 R-E-A, G-A-N. 17 00:01:10,695 --> 00:01:14,240 Reagan, Reagan! Go, Reagan! 18 00:01:19,204 --> 00:01:22,874 [crowd] We vote Reagan! We vote Reagan! 19 00:01:22,916 --> 00:01:26,127 We vote Reagan! We vote Reagan! 20 00:01:26,169 --> 00:01:28,463 [man] This time, it's a real pleasure 21 00:01:28,505 --> 00:01:31,424 to present to you Ronald Reagan. Governor. 22 00:01:31,466 --> 00:01:35,720 [cheers and applause] 23 00:01:35,762 --> 00:01:38,098 [Lopez] In 1980, Ronald Reagan 24 00:01:38,139 --> 00:01:41,559 wins the Republican nomination for President, 25 00:01:41,601 --> 00:01:44,145 and he faces an incredibly important decision-- 26 00:01:44,187 --> 00:01:47,398 how will he introduce himself to the country? 27 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:50,235 Nancy and I have never seen anything like this, 28 00:01:50,276 --> 00:01:53,446 because there isn't anything like this any more than... 29 00:01:53,488 --> 00:01:55,907 [cheers and applause] 30 00:01:55,949 --> 00:01:59,244 [Lopez] He has a letter from a Southern official 31 00:01:59,285 --> 00:02:02,705 that invites him to come down to Neshoba County 32 00:02:02,747 --> 00:02:05,125 to the county fair there. 33 00:02:05,834 --> 00:02:10,880 Neshoba County was infamous for one reason and one reason only. 34 00:02:10,922 --> 00:02:12,924 [man] This is backwoods Mississippi, 35 00:02:12,966 --> 00:02:14,551 silent and suspicious. 36 00:02:14,592 --> 00:02:17,428 It is hostile country with a hostile attitude 37 00:02:17,470 --> 00:02:19,430 towards civil rights workers. 38 00:02:19,472 --> 00:02:21,224 James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, 39 00:02:21,266 --> 00:02:23,143 and Michael Schwerner went to Mississippi 40 00:02:23,184 --> 00:02:25,103 to help register Negroes as voters. 41 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:27,230 [man] They have been missing since Sunday. 42 00:02:27,272 --> 00:02:29,858 They've been the focus of a whole country's concern. 43 00:02:29,899 --> 00:02:33,945 [Lopez] 1964, three civil rights workers were kidnapped, 44 00:02:33,987 --> 00:02:38,074 lynched, their bodies stuffed in an earthen dam, 45 00:02:38,116 --> 00:02:40,994 and not found for over a month. 46 00:02:54,382 --> 00:02:57,177 [Lopez] 16 years later, 47 00:02:57,218 --> 00:03:00,221 there wasn't a voter alive in Neshoba County 48 00:03:00,263 --> 00:03:01,764 who hadn't been alive 49 00:03:01,806 --> 00:03:04,601 when those three civil rights workers were killed. 50 00:03:04,642 --> 00:03:06,144 [cheers and applause] 51 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:09,272 [Wiley] He chose that place to stand up 52 00:03:09,314 --> 00:03:13,651 and look at the white South and say, 53 00:03:13,693 --> 00:03:16,029 "I'm for states' rights." 54 00:03:25,246 --> 00:03:27,457 [Lopez] This phrase, "states' rights," 55 00:03:27,498 --> 00:03:30,501 was prevalent across the South. 56 00:03:30,543 --> 00:03:34,797 We are defending the right of the people of Virginia 57 00:03:34,839 --> 00:03:38,051 and of Alabama to decide some questions for themselves. 58 00:03:38,092 --> 00:03:42,430 Get back to conservative government, state rights. 59 00:03:42,472 --> 00:03:44,682 Not just the saying, "states' rights," 60 00:03:44,724 --> 00:03:47,060 but the real meaning of states' rights. 61 00:03:47,101 --> 00:03:51,022 "States' rights" has always in the South meant 62 00:03:51,064 --> 00:03:54,150 the North can't tell us what to do about race. 63 00:03:54,192 --> 00:03:58,279 And the federal government can't tell us 64 00:03:58,321 --> 00:04:00,156 that Black people are equal. 65 00:04:00,198 --> 00:04:03,493 It cannot tell us to integrate our schools. 66 00:04:03,534 --> 00:04:06,704 It was a flat out signal to an old South 67 00:04:06,746 --> 00:04:10,333 that thought the Civil War was not over. 68 00:04:10,375 --> 00:04:12,669 [woman] The real purpose of Reagan's trip is a speech 69 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:16,297 to the Urban League in New York tomorrow on Black unemployment. 70 00:04:16,339 --> 00:04:18,299 In Mississippi, it was difficult to find 71 00:04:18,341 --> 00:04:20,760 a Black face in the crowd. 72 00:04:20,802 --> 00:04:22,887 [Johnson] He is saying to white America, 73 00:04:22,929 --> 00:04:24,430 "You can trust me. 74 00:04:24,472 --> 00:04:27,684 "You can trust me to make sure that the forces of change 75 00:04:27,725 --> 00:04:31,562 in civil rights and equality will not affect your life," 76 00:04:31,604 --> 00:04:34,357 and he received little or no criticism for that. 77 00:04:34,399 --> 00:04:36,985 It's one of the reasons Reagan's record on race 78 00:04:37,026 --> 00:04:39,070 has not been sufficiently examined, 79 00:04:39,112 --> 00:04:41,864 and we're suffering for the consequences to that today. 80 00:04:46,369 --> 00:04:47,996 Our guest today on Meet The Press 81 00:04:48,037 --> 00:04:50,707 is screen and television actor, Ronald Reagan, 82 00:04:50,748 --> 00:04:52,333 who this week announced he would seek 83 00:04:52,375 --> 00:04:55,962 the Republican nomination for Governor of California. 84 00:04:56,004 --> 00:04:57,171 We've reached a period 85 00:04:57,213 --> 00:04:58,715 in which the philosophical differences 86 00:04:58,756 --> 00:05:01,592 between the two parties are so great 87 00:05:01,634 --> 00:05:04,512 that it's high time that more people from the rank and file 88 00:05:04,554 --> 00:05:07,390 of the citizenry involve themselves 89 00:05:07,432 --> 00:05:10,810 so that we can have government that's of and by 90 00:05:10,852 --> 00:05:12,520 as well as for the people. 91 00:05:12,562 --> 00:05:15,356 [Lopez] Ronald Reagan developed the political persona 92 00:05:15,398 --> 00:05:18,234 that we know in the 1960s. 93 00:05:18,276 --> 00:05:19,610 [crowd cheering] 94 00:05:19,652 --> 00:05:22,113 [male reporter] It is not always possible to tell the real 95 00:05:22,155 --> 00:05:25,825 from the unreal, the actual from the artificial, 96 00:05:25,867 --> 00:05:27,535 truth from fiction. 97 00:05:27,577 --> 00:05:30,246 Just so you all know, what you have been watching 98 00:05:30,288 --> 00:05:32,373 is a Hollywood movie premiere. 99 00:05:32,415 --> 00:05:36,586 What you are about to see is a California political campaign. 100 00:05:36,627 --> 00:05:40,673 [marching band music playing] 101 00:05:43,551 --> 00:05:46,387 [klaxon horn honking] 102 00:05:48,765 --> 00:05:50,058 [horn honks] 103 00:05:51,559 --> 00:05:53,978 [Ron Jr.] When he began his political career, 104 00:05:54,020 --> 00:05:55,396 I remember him saying that, 105 00:05:55,438 --> 00:05:57,190 well, he didn't know about running 106 00:05:57,231 --> 00:05:58,691 for Governor of California, 107 00:05:58,733 --> 00:06:01,611 but he would go out and make some speeches. 108 00:06:01,652 --> 00:06:03,154 [applause] 109 00:06:03,196 --> 00:06:06,532 He would judge the audience reaction to that. 110 00:06:08,159 --> 00:06:12,038 And if the audience seemed to want him to run 111 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,831 for Governor of California, 112 00:06:13,873 --> 00:06:18,252 well, then, sure he wouldn't-- he wouldn't let them down. 113 00:06:18,294 --> 00:06:20,755 For a long time, America sophisticates 114 00:06:20,797 --> 00:06:22,340 couldn't take Ronald Reagan seriously. 115 00:06:22,382 --> 00:06:25,176 As an actor, he had seemed corny to them. 116 00:06:25,218 --> 00:06:27,637 And remember, Boraxo Powdered Hand Soap. 117 00:06:27,678 --> 00:06:29,680 [man] As a politician, he seemed improbable. 118 00:06:29,722 --> 00:06:32,934 [man] Ronald Reagan has played many roles. 119 00:06:32,975 --> 00:06:35,186 This year, he wants to play governor. 120 00:06:35,228 --> 00:06:37,230 [Brown] You know, I'm running against an actor. 121 00:06:37,271 --> 00:06:39,524 No shot at Abraham Lincoln, don't you think? 122 00:06:39,565 --> 00:06:40,525 [laughter] 123 00:06:40,566 --> 00:06:43,152 You know, the press just love to call him 124 00:06:43,194 --> 00:06:46,572 a fading actor or "B" actor, 125 00:06:46,614 --> 00:06:48,908 and that upset him. 126 00:06:48,950 --> 00:06:50,576 [Ronald] The manner in which the other team 127 00:06:50,618 --> 00:06:53,538 has been campaigning, it's time that some people 128 00:06:53,579 --> 00:06:55,790 are reminded that actors are people. 129 00:06:55,832 --> 00:06:57,750 [Nancy] Decision to run for Governor-- 130 00:06:57,792 --> 00:07:01,045 that was a mutual decision that we both, 131 00:07:01,087 --> 00:07:05,007 um, spent a couple of very sleepless nights over. 132 00:07:05,049 --> 00:07:06,968 My wife, Nancy. 133 00:07:07,009 --> 00:07:09,679 [Nancy] That meant a major change in our lives. 134 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:11,806 It had to be a mutual decision. 135 00:07:11,848 --> 00:07:14,225 [Ron Jr.] When my parents entered politics, 136 00:07:14,267 --> 00:07:16,436 the whole new cast of characters arrived. 137 00:07:16,477 --> 00:07:19,021 I was used to, you know, Jimmy Cagney 138 00:07:19,063 --> 00:07:20,606 coming over around Christmas. 139 00:07:20,648 --> 00:07:23,526 But now there's this whole political crowd, 140 00:07:23,568 --> 00:07:26,654 new kind of money people. 141 00:07:26,696 --> 00:07:29,699 That was a new social circle for them. 142 00:07:29,740 --> 00:07:32,743 My mother was much more socially focused 143 00:07:32,785 --> 00:07:35,788 and acutely focused than my father was. 144 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:37,582 She understood the value 145 00:07:37,623 --> 00:07:39,542 of having wealthy, powerful friends. 146 00:07:39,584 --> 00:07:42,003 And she was much more involved 147 00:07:42,044 --> 00:07:44,213 in cultivating those friendships. 148 00:07:44,255 --> 00:07:46,007 [Nancy] Thank you all for your work. 149 00:07:46,048 --> 00:07:49,051 Both my husband and I appreciate it. 150 00:07:49,093 --> 00:07:52,889 Reagan was running for Governor against Pat Brown... 151 00:07:52,930 --> 00:07:53,931 [crowd cheering] 152 00:07:53,973 --> 00:07:56,142 And he was a liberal New Deal politician. 153 00:07:56,184 --> 00:08:01,647 Brown created this tremendous infrastructure in California. 154 00:08:01,689 --> 00:08:05,902 Ordinary folks wondered, "Why are my taxes going up?" 155 00:08:05,943 --> 00:08:08,905 And there's Ronnie Reagan ready to take advantage of it. 156 00:08:08,946 --> 00:08:12,366 He's been singing this song about big government, 157 00:08:12,408 --> 00:08:13,910 and it plays well. 158 00:08:13,951 --> 00:08:15,912 You know, for a number of years, 159 00:08:15,953 --> 00:08:18,623 I have been protesting the growth of government. 160 00:08:18,664 --> 00:08:20,625 We have increased our population 18%. 161 00:08:20,666 --> 00:08:24,879 We've increased the number of recipients of welfare 49%. 162 00:08:24,921 --> 00:08:28,799 At that time, conservatism was very much on the fringes 163 00:08:28,841 --> 00:08:29,967 of American politics. 164 00:08:30,009 --> 00:08:32,970 Remember, Ronald Reagan campaigned 165 00:08:33,012 --> 00:08:35,473 for Goldwater in 1964. 166 00:08:35,515 --> 00:08:37,058 Barry Goldwater stood 167 00:08:37,099 --> 00:08:38,559 in the middle of what was happening in America, 168 00:08:38,601 --> 00:08:40,520 and it was still screaming segregation forever. 169 00:08:40,561 --> 00:08:43,314 So for Reagan to attach himself so comfortably 170 00:08:43,356 --> 00:08:45,608 was a sign of where he wanted to go long term. 171 00:08:45,650 --> 00:08:49,070 Governor Brown also called you a party crasher this morning. 172 00:08:49,111 --> 00:08:50,363 - I know. - Said that you're not in 173 00:08:50,404 --> 00:08:54,575 the, uh, progressive Republican side of your party. 174 00:08:54,617 --> 00:08:55,910 Well... 175 00:08:55,952 --> 00:08:59,872 [man] He's called federal aid education a tool of tyranny. 176 00:08:59,914 --> 00:09:02,083 [Brown] He opposed Social Security. 177 00:09:02,124 --> 00:09:04,418 He wanted to make it voluntary. 178 00:09:04,460 --> 00:09:06,420 On the Redwoods, he feels that we have enough 179 00:09:06,462 --> 00:09:08,673 of the natural resources of our state. 180 00:09:08,714 --> 00:09:11,592 These are all taken from speeches that he's made 181 00:09:11,634 --> 00:09:13,970 either recently or during the past four or five years. 182 00:09:14,011 --> 00:09:18,808 I think his refusal to denounce the John Birch Society 183 00:09:18,849 --> 00:09:21,143 as almost every other Republican leader 184 00:09:21,185 --> 00:09:22,687 in the United States has done, 185 00:09:22,728 --> 00:09:25,523 I think all of these things indicate a philosophy 186 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:29,318 that would be very dangerous to the people of our state. 187 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:32,446 The John Birch Society was this fringe group 188 00:09:32,488 --> 00:09:36,409 that believed in all sorts of conspiracy theories, 189 00:09:36,450 --> 00:09:38,828 some of them anti-communist, some of them are just 190 00:09:38,869 --> 00:09:41,956 absolutely absurd fluoride in the water 191 00:09:41,998 --> 00:09:45,418 being intentionally put there to dumb down American voters, 192 00:09:45,459 --> 00:09:47,837 concentration camps in Alaska. 193 00:09:47,878 --> 00:09:51,132 Most of the membership came out of the Republican Party, 194 00:09:51,173 --> 00:09:54,677 and it was a problem for Republicans. 195 00:09:54,719 --> 00:09:57,179 For a political operative like Stu Spencer, 196 00:09:57,221 --> 00:10:01,767 his fear was that Reagan had gotten ahold of a bad script, 197 00:10:01,809 --> 00:10:03,728 and that bad script could be supplied 198 00:10:03,769 --> 00:10:06,188 by the John Birch Society, 199 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:10,109 because some things are apropos to talk about 200 00:10:10,151 --> 00:10:12,361 and some things not. 201 00:10:12,403 --> 00:10:15,615 [Lopez] They also had a very strong strain 202 00:10:15,656 --> 00:10:17,533 of anti-Black racism. 203 00:10:17,575 --> 00:10:20,828 [Wiley] There was a concerted far right effort 204 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:24,540 to undermine the legitimacy of the civil rights movement 205 00:10:24,582 --> 00:10:26,208 and the demands for equality 206 00:10:26,250 --> 00:10:31,005 that included even attacking Martin Luther King, Jr. 207 00:10:31,047 --> 00:10:35,760 as a communist even though he wasn't. 208 00:10:35,801 --> 00:10:38,763 One of the things that happened in this country 209 00:10:38,804 --> 00:10:42,224 as a result of winning passage of civil rights 210 00:10:42,266 --> 00:10:46,979 was literally a fracturing of what white politics had been. 211 00:10:47,021 --> 00:10:50,274 The arc of the moral universe is long, 212 00:10:50,316 --> 00:10:52,193 but it bends toward justice. 213 00:10:52,234 --> 00:10:56,322 [Wiley] You have people who left the Democratic Party 214 00:10:56,364 --> 00:10:58,407 and became Republicans 215 00:10:58,449 --> 00:11:01,452 because of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. 216 00:11:01,494 --> 00:11:05,039 [Ronald] I spent most of my life as a Democrat, 217 00:11:05,081 --> 00:11:07,291 and I recall very well 218 00:11:07,333 --> 00:11:10,503 when the moment came to change and to re-register, 219 00:11:10,544 --> 00:11:13,130 when the leadership of the Democratic party 220 00:11:13,172 --> 00:11:15,424 repudiated the constitutional concepts 221 00:11:15,466 --> 00:11:17,843 of individual freedom and local autonomy, 222 00:11:17,885 --> 00:11:19,220 and states' rights, 223 00:11:19,261 --> 00:11:20,554 and the little intellectual elite 224 00:11:20,596 --> 00:11:24,975 in the nation's capital can engage in social tinkering, 225 00:11:25,017 --> 00:11:27,853 then I say to you, you didn't leave your party. 226 00:11:27,895 --> 00:11:30,523 The leadership of that party left you. 227 00:11:30,564 --> 00:11:35,861 [cheers and applause] 228 00:11:42,576 --> 00:11:44,578 [man] White America watches in horror 229 00:11:44,620 --> 00:11:47,456 as the people of Watts, California, riot, 230 00:11:47,498 --> 00:11:50,918 crying, "Burn, baby, burn." 231 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,628 [man] It began with the arrest by white officers 232 00:11:52,670 --> 00:11:55,256 of the California Highway Patrol of two young Negroes. 233 00:11:55,297 --> 00:11:57,425 There was an argument. There was a scuffle. 234 00:11:57,466 --> 00:11:59,385 By then, a crowd of several hundred Negroes had gathered, 235 00:11:59,427 --> 00:12:01,929 and the story of police brutality 236 00:12:01,971 --> 00:12:03,764 quickly spread through the community. 237 00:12:03,806 --> 00:12:06,142 [officer] Put your hands up. 238 00:12:06,183 --> 00:12:07,768 -Get them up. -Get your hands up. 239 00:12:07,810 --> 00:12:10,146 [Wiley] The Watts uprising was very much 240 00:12:10,187 --> 00:12:12,064 an expression of pain and anger 241 00:12:12,106 --> 00:12:15,276 at the failure of society to recognize 242 00:12:15,317 --> 00:12:19,363 what Black people had been asking for for generations, 243 00:12:19,405 --> 00:12:21,198 which was a fair shot 244 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,492 at being able to support yourself and your family. 245 00:12:23,534 --> 00:12:27,413 It was also very frightening for people who were white. 246 00:12:27,455 --> 00:12:30,207 It was the notion that, 247 00:12:30,249 --> 00:12:32,835 "This could spill over into my community." 248 00:12:32,877 --> 00:12:35,796 And so it's very easy for Ronald Reagan then 249 00:12:35,838 --> 00:12:38,424 to come in and manipulate that fear. 250 00:12:38,466 --> 00:12:40,468 California also leads in some things 251 00:12:40,509 --> 00:12:44,388 that unfortunately give us no sense of pride. 252 00:12:44,430 --> 00:12:47,808 The only thing that's gone up more than spending is crime. 253 00:12:47,850 --> 00:12:50,227 Our city streets are jungle paths after dark. 254 00:12:50,269 --> 00:12:54,315 [Lopez] Reagan used the term "jungle paths" to talk about 255 00:12:54,356 --> 00:12:58,235 the areas in our cities populated by African Americans. 256 00:12:58,277 --> 00:13:01,781 This was a way to trigger racist stereotypes. 257 00:13:01,822 --> 00:13:06,452 He used these terms that hearkened back to Africa. 258 00:13:06,494 --> 00:13:09,371 [Ronald] The jungle is closing in on this little patch 259 00:13:09,413 --> 00:13:12,333 that we have been civilizing for so long a time. 260 00:13:12,374 --> 00:13:15,669 [Shearer] Reagan is in effect saying, 261 00:13:15,711 --> 00:13:18,798 "These are people who are breaking the law, 262 00:13:18,839 --> 00:13:21,550 and I will protect you against them." 263 00:13:21,592 --> 00:13:23,135 We need law and order, 264 00:13:23,177 --> 00:13:26,764 and that's exactly what Reagan campaigned on. 265 00:13:26,806 --> 00:13:29,558 You wanted law and order in this town. You got it. 266 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,101 [gunshot] 267 00:13:31,143 --> 00:13:33,813 When white people heard "law and order," 268 00:13:33,854 --> 00:13:35,231 they heard him saying, 269 00:13:35,272 --> 00:13:37,149 "I am going to stop the hordes of liberals 270 00:13:37,191 --> 00:13:39,777 and Black and brown people from invading your neighborhood." 271 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:43,739 [Wiley] They bring violence. They bring crime. 272 00:13:43,781 --> 00:13:46,700 All of those are deeply imbedded stereotypes 273 00:13:46,742 --> 00:13:51,997 that get played out in that tough-on-crime stance. 274 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:53,707 patriotic music 275 00:13:53,749 --> 00:13:56,919 [Lopez] In 1966, it's no longer acceptable 276 00:13:56,961 --> 00:14:02,258 for a political figure to use explicitly racist terms. 277 00:14:02,299 --> 00:14:06,846 So a new language developed, and Ronald Reagan was a pioneer. 278 00:14:06,887 --> 00:14:09,682 It was a language that allowed people 279 00:14:09,723 --> 00:14:12,852 to oppose integration on a principle 280 00:14:12,893 --> 00:14:16,981 that supposedly had nothing to do with race. 281 00:14:18,107 --> 00:14:19,733 That's what dog whistle politics is. 282 00:14:19,775 --> 00:14:23,612 The use of coded language to trigger 283 00:14:23,654 --> 00:14:25,865 unacceptable social hatreds 284 00:14:25,906 --> 00:14:28,659 while pretending that's not what you're doing. 285 00:14:28,701 --> 00:14:30,786 Reagan can turn around and say, "Me? 286 00:14:30,828 --> 00:14:32,621 I didn't say anything about race. 287 00:14:32,663 --> 00:14:36,041 I just mentioned people commit crimes, 288 00:14:36,083 --> 00:14:38,168 gangs, inner cities, 289 00:14:38,210 --> 00:14:40,963 a pathological culture, no respect for work, 290 00:14:41,005 --> 00:14:44,884 jungle paths, nothing about race there at all." 291 00:14:44,925 --> 00:14:48,888 [helicopter blades whirring] 292 00:14:48,929 --> 00:14:50,806 [man] Do you think the Fair Housing Act in California 293 00:14:50,848 --> 00:14:53,350 is an ineffective or a bad method 294 00:14:53,392 --> 00:14:54,643 of assuring open housing? 295 00:14:54,685 --> 00:14:59,648 It runs the risk of by President giving to government a power 296 00:14:59,690 --> 00:15:01,817 that government should not have, 297 00:15:01,859 --> 00:15:04,320 and this is the infringement on the right 298 00:15:04,361 --> 00:15:08,032 of the individual to private possessions 299 00:15:08,073 --> 00:15:11,619 and the control ownership of those possessions. 300 00:15:11,660 --> 00:15:14,038 When he ran for Governor, fair housing 301 00:15:14,079 --> 00:15:17,333 anti-discrimination was a big issue. 302 00:15:17,374 --> 00:15:19,627 classical cello music 303 00:15:19,668 --> 00:15:24,632 You have to remember in the '50s you could not sell your house 304 00:15:24,673 --> 00:15:27,009 to a Black person. 305 00:15:27,051 --> 00:15:28,761 This wasn't your private choice. 306 00:15:28,802 --> 00:15:30,930 This was imposed upon you 307 00:15:30,971 --> 00:15:33,807 by the entire real estate industry. 308 00:15:33,849 --> 00:15:36,894 Under federal housing programs, 309 00:15:36,936 --> 00:15:39,980 banks would not loan to African Americans 310 00:15:40,022 --> 00:15:44,193 if they tried to live in white neighborhoods. 311 00:15:44,234 --> 00:15:47,404 This was legalized segregation. 312 00:15:47,446 --> 00:15:49,031 [woman] Everybody that lives here has been hassling me. 313 00:15:49,073 --> 00:15:50,199 [man] Why? 314 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,326 Because you're not safe walking the streets at night. 315 00:15:52,368 --> 00:15:53,786 You cannot leave the house. 316 00:15:53,827 --> 00:15:58,165 The people were frightened to death of integration. 317 00:15:58,207 --> 00:16:01,001 They thought, "This will hurt our schools. 318 00:16:01,043 --> 00:16:02,294 It'll make our neighborhood unsafe. 319 00:16:02,336 --> 00:16:05,339 Therefore the only thing I have in value in this world, 320 00:16:05,381 --> 00:16:10,094 my house, will lose its value." It was the hottest issue. 321 00:16:10,135 --> 00:16:12,596 Will you lose your neighborhood? That was it. 322 00:16:12,638 --> 00:16:16,850 [Lopez] While campaigning, Reagan would say, 323 00:16:16,892 --> 00:16:18,143 "I'm against prejudice, 324 00:16:18,185 --> 00:16:20,312 but I also support property rights." 325 00:16:20,354 --> 00:16:23,440 And one of the inherent rights of property 326 00:16:23,482 --> 00:16:27,611 is the right to dispose of it any way a person sees fit, 327 00:16:27,653 --> 00:16:31,740 even if that meant not selling to African Americans. 328 00:16:31,782 --> 00:16:33,867 That's a classic dog whistle. 329 00:16:33,909 --> 00:16:37,121 [Ronald] I do not believe that we can without in seriously 330 00:16:37,162 --> 00:16:41,000 endangering our basic freedoms, that we can violate 331 00:16:41,041 --> 00:16:44,294 this constitutional right of the individual. 332 00:16:44,336 --> 00:16:48,465 But I myself, I'll tell you now, do not subscribe to it. 333 00:16:48,507 --> 00:16:51,510 I'm willing to sell my house. A matter of fact 334 00:16:51,552 --> 00:16:53,554 if there's anyone listening wants to buy to a farm, 335 00:16:53,595 --> 00:16:56,515 I've got a farm for sale right now. 336 00:16:56,557 --> 00:17:00,019 [Derek] In effect, Reagan's definition of freedom 337 00:17:00,060 --> 00:17:04,106 included the so-called freedom to discriminate. 338 00:17:04,148 --> 00:17:05,441 [crowd cheering] 339 00:17:05,482 --> 00:17:09,528 [Wiley] He understood that there were many white voters 340 00:17:09,570 --> 00:17:13,949 in California who, because of racial integration, 341 00:17:13,991 --> 00:17:17,244 did not want to see their lives changed. 342 00:17:17,286 --> 00:17:21,040 He's sounding a message that has appeal-- 343 00:17:21,081 --> 00:17:25,794 "I warned people that this actor's gonna defeat Pat Brown," 344 00:17:25,836 --> 00:17:28,380 and it turned out to be true. 345 00:17:28,422 --> 00:17:31,300 Place your left hand upon the Bible 346 00:17:31,341 --> 00:17:33,469 and raise your right hand. 347 00:17:33,510 --> 00:17:36,555 [Lopez] Reagan had demonstrated that racial resentment 348 00:17:36,597 --> 00:17:40,142 wasn't confined to the white supremacist South. 349 00:17:40,184 --> 00:17:44,688 Even in California you could use race as way to win votes. 350 00:17:44,730 --> 00:17:47,900 dramatic music 351 00:17:47,941 --> 00:17:51,945 My native country, thee 352 00:17:51,987 --> 00:17:56,450 Land of the noble free 353 00:17:56,492 --> 00:18:01,580 Thy name I love 354 00:18:01,622 --> 00:18:04,958 casual xylophone jazz music 355 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,336 [indistinct conversations] 356 00:18:07,377 --> 00:18:08,879 [Nancy] Mr. and Mrs. Deacon Anderson. 357 00:18:08,921 --> 00:18:10,339 -Mr. Reagan, Mrs. Kent. -[woman] Hello, 358 00:18:10,380 --> 00:18:12,466 -Hello, Reagan. -From Carmel. 359 00:18:12,508 --> 00:18:13,592 -Good to see you. Hello. -Hello there. Oh! 360 00:18:13,634 --> 00:18:14,927 -Oh, my friend. -A pleasure. 361 00:18:14,968 --> 00:18:16,595 Oh, yes, your friend, your dearest friend. 362 00:18:16,637 --> 00:18:18,138 How are you? It's nice that you can be here. 363 00:18:18,180 --> 00:18:19,681 Oh, we're so thrilled to be here. 364 00:18:19,723 --> 00:18:21,517 -Nice to see you. -Hello. 365 00:18:21,558 --> 00:18:24,978 [Kelley] When Nancy became First Lady of California, 366 00:18:25,020 --> 00:18:27,147 first of all, she was fit to be tied 367 00:18:27,189 --> 00:18:31,735 to have to leave Beverly Hills and go to Sacramento. 368 00:18:31,777 --> 00:18:35,864 I mean, she loved the fact that Ronnie was governor 369 00:18:35,906 --> 00:18:39,868 but Sacramento? No, she did not like that at all. 370 00:18:41,703 --> 00:18:43,247 [Ron Jr.] The original Governor's mansion 371 00:18:43,288 --> 00:18:46,792 was this Victorian wedding cake of a place, 372 00:18:46,834 --> 00:18:50,045 this four-story thing with the cupola on top and, you know, 373 00:18:50,087 --> 00:18:54,258 all these stairways and rooms that were never used, 374 00:18:54,299 --> 00:18:58,011 so you could spend a lot of time exploring this big house. 375 00:18:58,053 --> 00:19:00,013 It was kind of cool for a little kid, 376 00:19:00,055 --> 00:19:03,851 but on the other hand, it was right downtown, 377 00:19:03,892 --> 00:19:06,311 with a motel and two gas stations 378 00:19:06,353 --> 00:19:07,521 on the other corner. 379 00:19:07,563 --> 00:19:09,815 [man] Nancy shows some other governors' wives 380 00:19:09,857 --> 00:19:11,650 California's Governor's Mansion. 381 00:19:11,692 --> 00:19:14,736 -[Nancy] Quite a busy street. -[woman] I should say so. 382 00:19:14,778 --> 00:19:17,364 All the freeway traffic comes here. 383 00:19:17,406 --> 00:19:19,741 -There's no grounds around. -[Nancy] No. 384 00:19:19,783 --> 00:19:21,326 It's unfortunate. 385 00:19:21,368 --> 00:19:24,079 It's--It's just gotten surrounded by the city. 386 00:19:24,121 --> 00:19:25,038 [woman] Yeah. 387 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,748 [Nancy] It's lovely to look at, 388 00:19:26,790 --> 00:19:28,792 but it really does need some paint, doesn't it? 389 00:19:28,834 --> 00:19:33,255 intriguing orchestral music 390 00:19:33,297 --> 00:19:39,136 There the jelly beans. [laughs] Ronnie loves jelly beans. 391 00:19:39,178 --> 00:19:41,388 [woman] Is this your son's decision? 392 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:44,016 -Oh, this is my husband. -Oh, your husband? 393 00:19:44,057 --> 00:19:46,018 When I said Ronnie, I meant big Ronnie. 394 00:19:46,059 --> 00:19:47,603 [laughter] 395 00:19:47,644 --> 00:19:49,980 [Spencer] When she and I went out to see the mansion 396 00:19:50,022 --> 00:19:51,732 for the first time, 397 00:19:51,773 --> 00:19:55,402 they had ropes on the second story over fire escapes. 398 00:19:55,444 --> 00:19:59,072 They had two young kids at the time, 399 00:19:59,114 --> 00:20:02,409 and she looks at me and she just, 400 00:20:02,451 --> 00:20:05,537 "I'm not living there." [laughs] 401 00:20:05,579 --> 00:20:08,207 [Nancy] Don't you find every governor's wife 402 00:20:08,248 --> 00:20:10,792 and every governor that I've ever talked to, 403 00:20:10,834 --> 00:20:12,502 they want a home. 404 00:20:12,544 --> 00:20:16,340 They don't want to be there. All day they're in downtown, 405 00:20:16,381 --> 00:20:18,175 but... -They really do need it. 406 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:20,677 The job itself, just you really need someplace 407 00:20:20,719 --> 00:20:22,763 to get away from it all. -[Nancy] Yes, you do. 408 00:20:22,804 --> 00:20:24,681 [traffic light clicks] 409 00:20:24,723 --> 00:20:27,851 [Kelley] She really made quite a scene about it 410 00:20:27,893 --> 00:20:29,770 and said she wouldn't live there. 411 00:20:29,811 --> 00:20:31,939 Well, if she wasn't gonna live in it, 412 00:20:31,980 --> 00:20:33,941 the governor wasn't gonna live in it. 413 00:20:33,982 --> 00:20:36,401 [Nancy] Something should've been done a long, long time ago, 414 00:20:36,443 --> 00:20:39,488 and it's awful that the governor of the largest state 415 00:20:39,529 --> 00:20:42,574 is scrounging around trying to find a place to live? 416 00:20:42,616 --> 00:20:44,701 Whoever heard of anything like that? 417 00:20:44,743 --> 00:20:47,371 Uh, really, isn't it disgraceful? 418 00:20:47,412 --> 00:20:48,914 Uh, I don't know about that. [ chuckles ] 419 00:20:48,956 --> 00:20:51,833 [laughs] I can't get you to commit yourself. 420 00:20:51,875 --> 00:20:53,585 [laughter] 421 00:20:53,627 --> 00:20:56,713 [Kelley] The Kitchen Cabinet bought a large house 422 00:20:56,755 --> 00:21:00,300 for the Reagans in a better part of town. 423 00:21:00,342 --> 00:21:03,470 Nancy felt much more comfortable moving there, 424 00:21:03,512 --> 00:21:05,722 and that's what they did. 425 00:21:09,768 --> 00:21:11,270 Well, I was very happy as a kid 426 00:21:11,311 --> 00:21:13,689 when they moved to a quieter neighborhood. 427 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:17,109 Nice house with a pool and, you know, 428 00:21:17,150 --> 00:21:20,404 big yard and trees to climb and all the rest of that. 429 00:21:20,445 --> 00:21:23,365 I thought this is-- this is a vast improvement. 430 00:21:23,407 --> 00:21:24,908 [laughs] 431 00:21:24,950 --> 00:21:26,868 [man] In 1969, a group of Governor Reagan's friends 432 00:21:26,910 --> 00:21:28,328 bought the present mansion. 433 00:21:28,370 --> 00:21:31,873 They charged the governor $15,000 a year until this year 434 00:21:31,915 --> 00:21:34,876 when the legislature agreed to pick up the rent. 435 00:21:34,918 --> 00:21:36,628 [man] $15,000 does sound like a lot of money in rent. 436 00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:39,298 It sure does. It is a lot of money in rent. 437 00:21:39,339 --> 00:21:40,757 [man] I just was wondering more if 438 00:21:40,799 --> 00:21:42,092 it would've costed you more to have actually 439 00:21:42,134 --> 00:21:44,720 bought the house and paid it off at that rate. 440 00:21:44,761 --> 00:21:46,555 I'm not very good at arithmetic. I don't know, 441 00:21:46,596 --> 00:21:50,559 but I just know we-- we, uh, we couldn't afford 442 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,105 to--to buy a house, no, really, shouldn't be asked to, actually. 443 00:21:55,147 --> 00:21:57,899 As I say, the state is supposed to provide 444 00:21:57,941 --> 00:22:01,778 living quarters for the governor. 445 00:22:03,196 --> 00:22:04,740 [woman] Mrs. Reagan thinks 446 00:22:04,781 --> 00:22:07,117 that both the state capital and the Governor's Mansion 447 00:22:07,159 --> 00:22:10,078 should be points of pride for California residents. 448 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,706 And what Mrs. Reagan has started as attempts to beautify 449 00:22:12,748 --> 00:22:16,918 the mansion have perhaps turned into political issues. 450 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,587 Can I walk in front of you? 451 00:22:18,628 --> 00:22:23,842 [Ron Jr.] My mother--she was used to Hollywood kind of PR, 452 00:22:23,884 --> 00:22:26,386 where, you know, for the most part, 453 00:22:26,428 --> 00:22:29,973 everybody's there to kind of boost you, you know. 454 00:22:30,015 --> 00:22:33,018 Now it seemed like everybody was there to tear you down. 455 00:22:33,060 --> 00:22:37,272 [Nancy] I don't like viciousness and, um, uh, 456 00:22:37,314 --> 00:22:41,401 it's wrong, and that's why politics has the bad name 457 00:22:41,443 --> 00:22:44,738 it has and, uh, that's why it's very difficult 458 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:47,240 to get good men to go into politics. 459 00:22:47,282 --> 00:22:48,700 It's very, very hard, 460 00:22:48,742 --> 00:22:51,995 and the people are the losers. [sighs] 461 00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:55,207 Nancy Reagan had had a bit of an introduction 462 00:22:55,248 --> 00:22:59,544 to press coverage with the Governor's Mansion 463 00:22:59,586 --> 00:23:04,007 that the Joan Didion piece for The Saturday Evening Post 464 00:23:04,049 --> 00:23:05,425 did it for her. 465 00:23:05,467 --> 00:23:09,554 It was entitled Pretty Nancy. 466 00:23:09,596 --> 00:23:15,143 She talked about Nancy's frozen smile and the gaze, 467 00:23:15,185 --> 00:23:19,773 "g-a-z-e" gaze, became her trademark. 468 00:23:19,815 --> 00:23:22,359 Women made fun of it. 469 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:24,736 She would just be like this all the time 470 00:23:24,778 --> 00:23:27,823 looking at him, and I don't think it was put on. 471 00:23:27,864 --> 00:23:32,744 It's a 1950s woman trying to shore up her man. 472 00:23:32,786 --> 00:23:34,413 Do we want to center these on the wall 473 00:23:34,454 --> 00:23:35,747 and then-- but then work around it? 474 00:23:35,789 --> 00:23:37,040 Is that--I think that's the best--Hmm? 475 00:23:37,082 --> 00:23:39,876 And perhaps we have room for hanging three right here. 476 00:23:39,918 --> 00:23:41,420 Don't you think it would be better 477 00:23:41,461 --> 00:23:46,591 to put all of those, uh, maybe down there, 478 00:23:46,633 --> 00:23:49,970 where they'd be the most visible rather than here? 479 00:23:50,011 --> 00:23:51,179 [man] And having here-- and having there to themselves. 480 00:23:51,221 --> 00:23:53,181 Yeah, right, and that--and that next. 481 00:23:53,223 --> 00:23:56,476 -[man] Yes, I think so. -See, I'm sorry, ma'am, 482 00:23:56,518 --> 00:23:58,186 but unauthorized personnel aren't allowed in here. 483 00:23:58,228 --> 00:24:00,021 -[laughs] -Hi, honey. 484 00:24:00,063 --> 00:24:01,606 Hi. 485 00:24:01,648 --> 00:24:05,986 [Ron Jr.] My parents were somewhat old-fashioned people. 486 00:24:06,027 --> 00:24:08,238 Look at these. Oops! 487 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:09,448 [exhales deeply] 488 00:24:09,489 --> 00:24:12,409 [Ron Jr.] That was just as well, given that they were going 489 00:24:12,451 --> 00:24:14,327 into Republican politics. 490 00:24:14,369 --> 00:24:17,664 You know, Nancy, you'll see Patty later on. 491 00:24:17,706 --> 00:24:18,874 Hello. 492 00:24:18,915 --> 00:24:22,377 [Ron Jr.] They could stand as this symbol of the old America, 493 00:24:22,419 --> 00:24:25,172 you know, the America we miss so much. 494 00:24:25,213 --> 00:24:29,384 You could see it in the TV shows of the '50s-- 495 00:24:29,426 --> 00:24:35,932 a lot of conservatives thought the nuclear family, 496 00:24:35,974 --> 00:24:38,518 the husband as breadwinner, the little woman 497 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:44,274 staying home with the apron, the happy Black servant, 498 00:24:44,316 --> 00:24:48,278 this was kind of the natural order of things. 499 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,779 [man] Like many a housewife, 500 00:24:49,821 --> 00:24:53,325 Nancy Reagan likes to shop herself when she can. 501 00:24:53,366 --> 00:24:55,243 [Kelley] Nancy felt her persona 502 00:24:55,285 --> 00:24:58,288 would be non-threatening to America 503 00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:01,291 and non-threatening to the Republican Party, 504 00:25:01,333 --> 00:25:07,255 and it worked. It worked for the Reagans. 505 00:25:07,297 --> 00:25:10,008 They were scared of The Beatles, for Godsakes. 506 00:25:10,050 --> 00:25:12,344 The Beatles. 507 00:25:12,385 --> 00:25:15,847 The '60s were very difficult for my father. 508 00:25:15,889 --> 00:25:20,018 He was unable to fathom this whole new long-haired 509 00:25:20,060 --> 00:25:22,854 rock-and-roll, pot-smoking reality. 510 00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:24,523 [Ronald] This fellow that was doing the talking 511 00:25:24,564 --> 00:25:26,900 had a haircut like Tarzan, he walked like Jane, 512 00:25:26,942 --> 00:25:30,487 and smelled like cheetah. [laughter] 513 00:25:30,529 --> 00:25:35,700 rock and roll music 514 00:25:35,742 --> 00:25:38,787 Hey, by the way you be sure to listen to WYBC's Viewpoint 515 00:25:38,828 --> 00:25:41,248 when Jason Roberts talks with Governor Ronald Reagan. 516 00:25:41,289 --> 00:25:43,458 -[Ronald] Okay, wait a second. -[man] Yeah, roll the tape. 517 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,710 [man] Since Sunday, the California governor 518 00:25:45,752 --> 00:25:49,005 has been guest lecturer at Yale University. 519 00:25:49,047 --> 00:25:50,173 [man] How do you feel? 520 00:25:50,215 --> 00:25:53,051 Well, uh, a little nervous at the moment. 521 00:25:53,093 --> 00:25:57,514 It's, uh, but then I was always nervous about an examination. 522 00:25:57,556 --> 00:26:00,100 [indistinct conversations] 523 00:26:00,141 --> 00:26:05,730 [Shearer] I first met Reagan when he came to Yale University 524 00:26:05,772 --> 00:26:08,024 at the end of the first year as governor. 525 00:26:08,066 --> 00:26:11,987 I probably knew more than the average Yalie 526 00:26:12,028 --> 00:26:14,698 about him because I was from California. 527 00:26:14,739 --> 00:26:16,616 Uh, I actually I gave the impression a lot. 528 00:26:16,658 --> 00:26:19,119 He was a bit taken aback by what I what I would call 529 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,830 the critical reception that he got. 530 00:26:21,871 --> 00:26:27,043 We asked penetrating, journalist-like questions. 531 00:26:27,085 --> 00:26:30,922 He was not used to be put on the spot. 532 00:26:30,964 --> 00:26:32,924 Could you tell me in what ways you've been active 533 00:26:32,966 --> 00:26:35,802 for civil rights in your career? 534 00:26:43,810 --> 00:26:46,438 As a sports announcer many years ago, 535 00:26:46,479 --> 00:26:49,357 baseball opened its rule book with a line, 536 00:26:49,399 --> 00:26:52,235 "Baseball is a game for Caucasian gentlemen." 537 00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:55,113 Baseball is a game for Caucasian gentlemen. 538 00:26:55,155 --> 00:26:58,742 Only whites were allowed to play baseball in the big leagues. 539 00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:01,703 I editorialized constantly against this. 540 00:27:01,745 --> 00:27:05,624 Was editorializing against the gentlemen's agreement 541 00:27:05,665 --> 00:27:09,044 that kept Blacks from playing organized baseball. 542 00:27:09,085 --> 00:27:12,297 And one man defied that rule. 543 00:27:16,635 --> 00:27:19,095 And today, baseball is far better off. 544 00:27:19,137 --> 00:27:23,475 [Shearer] The notion that he was an aggressive activist 545 00:27:23,516 --> 00:27:26,186 who supported Jackie Robinson's right 546 00:27:26,227 --> 00:27:30,065 to play baseball was, again, not true. 547 00:27:30,106 --> 00:27:34,486 It's just an example of him not really wanting to see 548 00:27:34,527 --> 00:27:38,865 and also not admitting the depth of the issue 549 00:27:38,907 --> 00:27:41,117 of discrimination in the country. 550 00:27:41,159 --> 00:27:43,119 Each time you've spoken about civil rights, 551 00:27:43,161 --> 00:27:45,455 you've talked about the integration of baseball 552 00:27:45,497 --> 00:27:47,332 about Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson. 553 00:27:47,374 --> 00:27:49,167 It--it's become repetitious, 554 00:27:49,209 --> 00:27:51,795 and it seems to me a sad concept of civil rights. 555 00:27:51,836 --> 00:27:54,714 The real problems are questions of housing, 556 00:27:54,756 --> 00:27:56,383 of crime in the ghetto. 557 00:27:56,424 --> 00:27:59,469 It's always as if it's coming out of something that's been-- 558 00:27:59,511 --> 00:28:01,680 that's memorized, that if they question you 559 00:28:01,721 --> 00:28:03,556 for more than five minutes, you break down. 560 00:28:03,598 --> 00:28:06,685 I just--I don't believe that you really have mastered 561 00:28:06,726 --> 00:28:08,353 the subjects you're talking about. 562 00:28:08,395 --> 00:28:10,313 [Ronald] Well, let me ask you something. 563 00:28:10,355 --> 00:28:14,567 What is the democratic machine in Chicago? 564 00:28:14,609 --> 00:28:16,361 [arguing at once] 565 00:28:16,403 --> 00:28:20,448 Instead of arguing the facts with us, he was sort of saying, 566 00:28:20,490 --> 00:28:23,410 "You're too young to understand how the world works." 567 00:28:23,451 --> 00:28:25,537 This is one of the things that you should learn. 568 00:28:25,578 --> 00:28:27,414 And, Derek, you ought to learn this most of all 569 00:28:27,455 --> 00:28:29,916 if you're going to pursue journalism. 570 00:28:29,958 --> 00:28:34,295 [Shearer] Reagan saw himself as a patriot. 571 00:28:34,337 --> 00:28:36,047 contemplative music 572 00:28:36,089 --> 00:28:37,632 He wasn't self-critical. 573 00:28:37,674 --> 00:28:42,470 He didn't wanna examine America in any critical way 574 00:28:42,512 --> 00:28:46,683 because he accepted America as it was. 575 00:28:48,059 --> 00:28:51,980 The notion that if you followed other music 576 00:28:52,021 --> 00:28:53,982 or another lifestyle, 577 00:28:54,023 --> 00:28:56,568 or if you disagreed with the war in Vietnam 578 00:28:56,609 --> 00:28:58,862 or if you got too excited about voting rights 579 00:28:58,903 --> 00:29:02,699 for Black people that you were actually challenging 580 00:29:02,741 --> 00:29:06,911 his America, his unexamined America. 581 00:29:06,953 --> 00:29:10,749 [Ronald] College is the world apart from the world. 582 00:29:10,790 --> 00:29:12,917 But this year on the beautiful campus 583 00:29:12,959 --> 00:29:15,962 of the University of California at Berkeley, 584 00:29:16,004 --> 00:29:18,882 college was also this. 585 00:29:18,923 --> 00:29:20,467 [chanting indistinctly] 586 00:29:20,508 --> 00:29:24,763 [Ronald] This small minority of beatniks and malcontents 587 00:29:24,804 --> 00:29:26,639 and filthy speech advocates 588 00:29:26,681 --> 00:29:28,433 have interfered with the primary purpose 589 00:29:28,475 --> 00:29:29,559 of that university, 590 00:29:29,601 --> 00:29:32,145 and they've brought shame on a great university, 591 00:29:32,187 --> 00:29:34,189 a university of which you and I have a right 592 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:35,398 to be very proud 593 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,151 and which, for many years, we have been very proud. 594 00:29:38,193 --> 00:29:40,737 [crowd cheering] 595 00:29:45,033 --> 00:29:45,992 [Shearer] At three in the morning 596 00:29:46,034 --> 00:29:48,119 on Thursday, the 15th of May, 597 00:29:48,161 --> 00:29:50,705 300 uniformed fully equipped police 598 00:29:50,747 --> 00:29:53,917 occupied the park, and a fence was erected. 599 00:29:53,958 --> 00:29:55,668 [man] And unless you leave, 600 00:29:55,710 --> 00:29:57,962 you will be arrested for trespassing. 601 00:29:58,004 --> 00:30:02,383 [Shearer] That same day, a rally was held on campus. 602 00:30:02,425 --> 00:30:04,761 [man] Don't let those pigs beat the shit out of you. 603 00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:07,430 Don't let yourselves get arrested on felonies. 604 00:30:07,472 --> 00:30:09,557 Go down there and take the park. 605 00:30:09,599 --> 00:30:13,144 [cheering] 606 00:30:13,186 --> 00:30:14,437 [man] Take the park! 607 00:30:14,479 --> 00:30:17,857 [Shearer] People's Park involved students 608 00:30:17,899 --> 00:30:19,692 protecting a piece of land 609 00:30:19,734 --> 00:30:21,694 that the university wanted to expand on. 610 00:30:21,736 --> 00:30:24,364 [crowd] We want the park! We want the park! 611 00:30:24,405 --> 00:30:26,407 [Scheer] The university overreacted. 612 00:30:26,449 --> 00:30:29,953 On the local level, the police were coming in, 613 00:30:29,994 --> 00:30:33,498 and then Reagan came in with the authorization 614 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:36,459 on the state level of the National Guard. 615 00:30:36,501 --> 00:30:39,045 suspenseful music 616 00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:45,635 [indistinct chanting] 617 00:30:47,554 --> 00:30:49,055 [helicopter propeller whirring] 618 00:30:49,097 --> 00:30:53,726 Suddenly, you have troops there with guns and bayonets. 619 00:30:53,768 --> 00:30:55,770 [gunshot] 620 00:30:55,812 --> 00:30:59,858 [crowd shouting indistinctly] 621 00:31:04,195 --> 00:31:06,573 [Shearer] If you were watching the TV coverage, 622 00:31:06,614 --> 00:31:10,034 it looked like that it was a riot. 623 00:31:10,076 --> 00:31:13,496 The optics of it for Reagan were great. 624 00:31:13,538 --> 00:31:17,542 It played into all the tropes of the conservative movement 625 00:31:17,584 --> 00:31:20,503 about young people. 626 00:31:20,545 --> 00:31:23,047 [interviewer] Did you personally agree with it? 627 00:31:23,089 --> 00:31:26,426 Yeah. I'm that generation. 628 00:31:26,467 --> 00:31:29,137 Bomb the bastards. 629 00:31:29,178 --> 00:31:32,181 [gunfire] 630 00:31:32,223 --> 00:31:34,475 [indistinct shouting] 631 00:31:34,517 --> 00:31:35,894 dramatic music 632 00:31:35,935 --> 00:31:37,478 [indistinct shouting] 633 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,025 [helicopter propeller whirring] 634 00:31:45,653 --> 00:31:48,448 [Scheer] Reagan blamed everything bad that happened 635 00:31:48,489 --> 00:31:51,367 on the students and the university. 636 00:31:51,409 --> 00:31:54,579 On the campus, it was you who are adults. 637 00:31:54,621 --> 00:31:57,916 You who are entrusted with those young people and their guidance, 638 00:31:57,957 --> 00:32:00,501 have a responsibility to make it plain to them 639 00:32:00,543 --> 00:32:01,628 from the very beginning 640 00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:03,880 that you yourselves do not tolerate 641 00:32:03,922 --> 00:32:05,381 the kind of conduct 642 00:32:05,423 --> 00:32:07,467 that has led to the burning of Wheeler Hall. 643 00:32:07,508 --> 00:32:08,801 [man] The overwhelming majority 644 00:32:08,843 --> 00:32:11,804 of the faculty and students are against violence, 645 00:32:11,846 --> 00:32:14,515 have done more to curb violence than you 646 00:32:14,557 --> 00:32:15,767 and created an atmosphere-- 647 00:32:15,808 --> 00:32:17,352 -[Ronald] Listen. -[man] No one wants to listen. 648 00:32:17,393 --> 00:32:19,228 -No one... -You are a liar. 649 00:32:19,270 --> 00:32:22,398 All of it began the first time some of you who know better, 650 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,609 and are old enough to know better, 651 00:32:24,651 --> 00:32:27,487 let young people think that they have the right 652 00:32:27,528 --> 00:32:29,238 to choose the laws they would obey 653 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:33,201 as long as they were doing it in the name of social protest. 654 00:32:33,242 --> 00:32:36,913 [Wiley] Reagan was able to play on the insecurity 655 00:32:36,955 --> 00:32:39,707 about a world that was radically changing. 656 00:32:39,749 --> 00:32:42,335 From young people on college campuses, 657 00:32:42,377 --> 00:32:45,630 from the anti-Vietnam War demonstrations 658 00:32:45,672 --> 00:32:48,049 as well as the civil rights movement, 659 00:32:48,091 --> 00:32:51,970 Reagan was linking all of this demonstration 660 00:32:52,011 --> 00:32:55,223 and protest as a grand threat. 661 00:32:55,264 --> 00:32:59,060 [Ronald] It's time we recognize that this is nationwide. 662 00:32:59,102 --> 00:33:00,353 This is a plot. 663 00:33:00,395 --> 00:33:03,606 There is a conspiratorial side to it. 664 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:07,068 [Scheer] What should have been seen as positive expressions 665 00:33:07,110 --> 00:33:08,987 of legitimate concern, 666 00:33:09,028 --> 00:33:10,530 Ronald Reagan gets hacked. 667 00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:13,116 He made no bones about it. 668 00:33:13,157 --> 00:33:17,537 Anybody who talks about these structural problems 669 00:33:17,578 --> 00:33:22,667 of race or peace and class is the enemy, a traitor. 670 00:33:22,709 --> 00:33:26,337 suspenseful music 671 00:33:26,379 --> 00:33:29,924 [man] The Governor and The Students, 672 00:33:29,966 --> 00:33:31,968 an unedited, unrehearsed dialogue 673 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:34,387 between Governor Ronald Reagan 674 00:33:34,429 --> 00:33:36,347 and California students. 675 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:38,057 groovy music 676 00:33:38,099 --> 00:33:40,435 [man] Governor, I know you kind of decided 677 00:33:40,476 --> 00:33:42,020 whether or not to receive the Republican 678 00:33:42,061 --> 00:33:44,856 presidential, um, nomination for President. 679 00:33:44,897 --> 00:33:48,151 But would you like to be President? 680 00:33:48,192 --> 00:33:50,611 It's a job that--I think it starts with the people. 681 00:33:50,653 --> 00:33:53,865 But I could never find myself 682 00:33:53,906 --> 00:33:56,284 just saying, "Oh, I want to be President, 683 00:33:56,325 --> 00:33:58,244 and I'm gonna go out and talk to people into it." 684 00:33:58,286 --> 00:34:02,331 My father came from a generation where being nakedly ambitious 685 00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:05,877 was not seen as a positive characteristic. 686 00:34:05,918 --> 00:34:07,503 Heroes don't do that. 687 00:34:07,545 --> 00:34:11,299 Heroes don't, you know, seek attention. 688 00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:13,092 If you were nakedly ambitious, 689 00:34:13,134 --> 00:34:15,595 you were being something less than heroic. 690 00:34:15,636 --> 00:34:18,639 [Plog] Reagan was thinking of being President 691 00:34:18,681 --> 00:34:20,224 from the time we first met him. 692 00:34:20,266 --> 00:34:21,809 That's all he wanted. 693 00:34:21,851 --> 00:34:25,188 I was with him in his Pacific Palisades home, 694 00:34:25,229 --> 00:34:26,856 and we're going through some issues. 695 00:34:26,898 --> 00:34:28,858 He suddenly put the books down and he said, 696 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:30,485 "Damn. Wouldn't this be fun 697 00:34:30,526 --> 00:34:32,570 if we were running for the presidency?" 698 00:34:32,612 --> 00:34:35,281 [Alter] In early 1968, 699 00:34:35,323 --> 00:34:37,700 the guy has been governor for a year. 700 00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:42,288 He goes on a nationwide speaking tour to test the waters 701 00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:43,915 for the presidency. 702 00:34:43,956 --> 00:34:45,833 [man] Governor, are you running for President? 703 00:34:45,875 --> 00:34:48,920 I am not a candidate. I'm not running for President. 704 00:34:48,961 --> 00:34:50,129 [man] People think you're a candidate. 705 00:34:50,171 --> 00:34:52,673 Well, um, maybe the people think I'm a candidate 706 00:34:52,715 --> 00:34:54,342 because you fellows won't take my word for it. 707 00:34:54,383 --> 00:34:55,510 [man] Governor... 708 00:34:55,551 --> 00:34:58,387 [crowd chattering] 709 00:34:58,429 --> 00:35:00,932 [elephant blows] 710 00:35:00,973 --> 00:35:03,059 [elephant trumpets] 711 00:35:03,101 --> 00:35:09,273 And in '68, my grandmother was for Reagan. 712 00:35:09,315 --> 00:35:12,110 Reagan was the governor from the largest state 713 00:35:12,151 --> 00:35:14,112 governing as a conservative. 714 00:35:14,153 --> 00:35:16,739 He really put himself forward as somebody that 715 00:35:16,781 --> 00:35:18,533 conservative Republicans said, 716 00:35:18,574 --> 00:35:22,036 "Someday, this is our candidate for President." 717 00:35:23,955 --> 00:35:26,582 [man] This is probably his last chance at the White House 718 00:35:26,624 --> 00:35:31,337 for one reason or another, chiefly age, it's 1968 or never. 719 00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:33,965 [man] The nominee of this convention-- 720 00:35:34,006 --> 00:35:35,383 Richard M. Nixon. 721 00:35:35,424 --> 00:35:40,263 [crowd cheering] 722 00:35:40,304 --> 00:35:42,181 [Spencer] Reagan wasn't ready. 723 00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:46,060 But my governor had stars in his eyes, 724 00:35:46,102 --> 00:35:48,396 and the message was out there. 725 00:35:48,437 --> 00:35:49,897 He wanted the job. 726 00:35:49,939 --> 00:35:52,400 [crowd chattering] 727 00:35:52,441 --> 00:35:56,112 We want Reagan! We want Reagan! 728 00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:58,364 [man] And I can tell we need some more enthusiasm. 729 00:35:58,406 --> 00:36:00,199 Ladies and gentlemen, if you will, 730 00:36:00,241 --> 00:36:02,160 join me in a tremendous round of applause. 731 00:36:02,201 --> 00:36:03,953 [cheers and applause] 732 00:36:03,995 --> 00:36:06,956 It's Ronald Reagan, the fighter 733 00:36:06,998 --> 00:36:09,750 Ronald Reagan, the power 734 00:36:09,792 --> 00:36:12,587 Here he comes, here he comes 735 00:36:12,628 --> 00:36:16,299 '76, this is ours 736 00:36:16,340 --> 00:36:17,758 Oh, baby 737 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,052 [Cannon] Ronald Reagan left the California governorship 738 00:36:20,094 --> 00:36:21,470 early in 1975. 739 00:36:21,512 --> 00:36:22,889 -Hi. -[man] How are you? 740 00:36:22,930 --> 00:36:25,850 By the time he was running for President in 1976, 741 00:36:25,892 --> 00:36:27,643 Mrs. Reagan had acquired an awful lot 742 00:36:27,685 --> 00:36:30,855 of political knowledge about national politics. 743 00:36:30,897 --> 00:36:33,441 upbeat music 744 00:36:33,482 --> 00:36:34,775 [reporter] Obviously, you must think 745 00:36:34,817 --> 00:36:36,235 you're doing some good to be out shaking 746 00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:38,154 all these hands, running around the state. 747 00:36:38,196 --> 00:36:40,907 I'm doing what they asked me to do. 748 00:36:40,948 --> 00:36:44,285 I go out and do questions and answers, 749 00:36:44,327 --> 00:36:45,494 and it's fascinating. It really is, 750 00:36:45,536 --> 00:36:49,415 'cause you find out that no matter where you are, 751 00:36:49,457 --> 00:36:51,334 the same things are on people's minds, 752 00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:56,214 which has been fascinating to me. 753 00:36:56,255 --> 00:36:57,757 She was an actress. 754 00:36:57,798 --> 00:37:00,927 Not a great actress, but an actress, 755 00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:04,472 and she could play parts very well. 756 00:37:04,513 --> 00:37:07,266 [Alter] She created this artifice that in some ways 757 00:37:07,308 --> 00:37:12,355 was almost as powerful as her husband's façade 758 00:37:12,396 --> 00:37:16,734 and hers was of the adoring, demure wife. 759 00:37:16,776 --> 00:37:18,611 But she also knew how to charm people. 760 00:37:18,653 --> 00:37:20,529 [Nancy] It's, uh... [ laughs ] 761 00:37:20,571 --> 00:37:21,572 Have you ever just said, 762 00:37:21,614 --> 00:37:22,865 "No. That's not the way we're gonna do it"? 763 00:37:22,907 --> 00:37:24,450 -No. -[laughs] 764 00:37:24,492 --> 00:37:27,411 Well, I'll tell you, that's-- that's an ideal wife. 765 00:37:27,453 --> 00:37:29,205 [man] Mrs. Reagan... 766 00:37:29,247 --> 00:37:32,041 [Lopez] When Ronald Reagan runs again in '76, 767 00:37:32,083 --> 00:37:35,670 he also learned from his experience in California, 768 00:37:35,711 --> 00:37:39,215 and he runs a very aggressive dog whistle campaign. 769 00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:42,176 Tonight, I'd like to talk to you about issues, 770 00:37:42,218 --> 00:37:43,844 issues which I think are involved 771 00:37:43,886 --> 00:37:46,806 or should be involved in this primary election season. 772 00:37:46,847 --> 00:37:49,809 [Wiley] Reagan's ideology was that 773 00:37:49,850 --> 00:37:51,811 government programs are just wasting 774 00:37:51,852 --> 00:37:53,229 our hard-earned money. 775 00:37:53,271 --> 00:37:57,400 He pulls the story of a woman in Chicago. 776 00:37:57,441 --> 00:37:59,819 [Ronald] She has 50 Social Security numbers 777 00:37:59,860 --> 00:38:02,655 and 50 addresses in Chicago alone. 778 00:38:02,697 --> 00:38:04,615 Her tax-free cash income 779 00:38:04,657 --> 00:38:08,577 has been running a $150,000 a year. 780 00:38:09,495 --> 00:38:12,581 [Wiley] Reagan's welfare queen and her Cadillac 781 00:38:12,623 --> 00:38:16,794 became a poster child for a lie. 782 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:20,840 The lie is this is what people on welfare are, 783 00:38:20,881 --> 00:38:23,926 that these are people who don't need the program 784 00:38:23,968 --> 00:38:26,178 and that it was people of color 785 00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:28,681 who were getting unfair handouts. 786 00:38:28,723 --> 00:38:31,434 Washington doesn't even know how many people are on welfare, 787 00:38:31,475 --> 00:38:34,186 how many cheaters are getting more than one check. 788 00:38:34,228 --> 00:38:38,357 The surface story is Blacks are lazy. 789 00:38:38,399 --> 00:38:41,819 They're cheaters. They're a drain on society. 790 00:38:41,861 --> 00:38:43,487 And by implication, 791 00:38:43,529 --> 00:38:45,406 a complimentary story about whites-- 792 00:38:45,448 --> 00:38:47,992 hard-working, responsible, innocent, 793 00:38:48,034 --> 00:38:51,620 law-abiding taxpayers who contribute. 794 00:38:51,662 --> 00:38:55,499 Many politicians like Reagan use welfare as a-- 795 00:38:55,541 --> 00:38:57,418 as a term to cover up their racism. 796 00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:58,919 That is they never deal with the fact 797 00:38:58,961 --> 00:39:02,840 that they have three whites on welfare for every one Black. 798 00:39:02,882 --> 00:39:06,344 [Scheer] Reagan was demonizing vulnerable people. 799 00:39:06,385 --> 00:39:08,179 And meanwhile, the people ripping you off 800 00:39:08,220 --> 00:39:10,973 are big corporations getting tax breaks, 801 00:39:11,015 --> 00:39:13,517 and so it's a very convenient narrative. 802 00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:15,603 [reporter] Significant numbers of Democratic 803 00:39:15,644 --> 00:39:18,105 and independent voters like what he's been saying, 804 00:39:18,147 --> 00:39:20,691 that some of his detractors claim that at least 805 00:39:20,733 --> 00:39:24,195 some of what he's been saying is a little short on accuracy. 806 00:39:24,236 --> 00:39:27,990 It costs three $3 in overhead to deliver one $1 807 00:39:28,032 --> 00:39:30,409 to a needy person in this country. 808 00:39:30,451 --> 00:39:31,702 [man] Reagan is wrong. 809 00:39:31,744 --> 00:39:35,164 It doesn't cost $3 to deliver a dollar of welfare, 810 00:39:35,206 --> 00:39:36,957 but 12 cents. 811 00:39:36,999 --> 00:39:39,794 [Wiley] The majority of people who are on welfare are white. 812 00:39:39,835 --> 00:39:44,256 And yet welfare exists in our political consciousness 813 00:39:44,298 --> 00:39:47,009 as only benefitting people of color. 814 00:39:47,051 --> 00:39:50,304 That is how blind we have become 815 00:39:50,346 --> 00:39:53,933 to how manipulated we are by racial politics 816 00:39:53,974 --> 00:39:58,270 that serve to undermine equality. 817 00:39:58,312 --> 00:40:01,232 [man] Ronald Reagan almost has as many delegates 818 00:40:01,273 --> 00:40:02,483 committed to him 819 00:40:02,525 --> 00:40:04,235 as are committed to President Ford. 820 00:40:04,276 --> 00:40:07,446 [woman] Do you think you'll be the Republican nominee in '76? 821 00:40:07,488 --> 00:40:10,574 [Ronald] I don't know. I'm gonna try. 822 00:40:10,616 --> 00:40:14,495 tense music 823 00:40:18,999 --> 00:40:20,292 Good morning from Kansas City, Missouri, 824 00:40:20,334 --> 00:40:25,714 the site of the 31st Republican National Convention. 825 00:40:25,756 --> 00:40:27,967 The choice facing the people in this country 826 00:40:28,008 --> 00:40:30,928 is between that Democratic platform, 827 00:40:30,970 --> 00:40:33,556 which is for more government, more spending, 828 00:40:33,597 --> 00:40:36,434 more deficits as against the platform 829 00:40:36,475 --> 00:40:38,936 that has said, "Let us reverse that 830 00:40:38,978 --> 00:40:40,187 and get back the freedom 831 00:40:40,229 --> 00:40:42,523 and state's rights and local rules." 832 00:40:42,565 --> 00:40:45,443 [Baker] In 1976, Reagan was a force 833 00:40:45,484 --> 00:40:47,611 to be reckoned with. 834 00:40:47,653 --> 00:40:52,158 He almost knocked off an incumbent Jerry Ford 835 00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:53,617 for his party's nomination. 836 00:40:53,659 --> 00:40:57,204 [man] They're not really fighting over the old fissure 837 00:40:57,246 --> 00:40:59,415 of, "Are we going left or are going right?" 838 00:40:59,457 --> 00:41:03,043 This party's made up its mind. It's going right. 839 00:41:03,085 --> 00:41:04,879 It's going right, but how far right? 840 00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,550 [man] The nominee of this convention is Gerald R. Ford. 841 00:41:09,592 --> 00:41:11,677 [crowd cheering] 842 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:15,931 [man] The major Reagan threat to the Ford campaign here 843 00:41:15,973 --> 00:41:19,018 has been decisively defeated. 844 00:41:19,059 --> 00:41:21,645 [man] There had been a request to hear 845 00:41:21,687 --> 00:41:22,980 from Governor Reagan, 846 00:41:23,022 --> 00:41:24,607 invite him to address the convention. 847 00:41:24,648 --> 00:41:28,068 [cheers and applause] 848 00:41:28,110 --> 00:41:30,488 [Norquist] In the speech Reagan gave 849 00:41:30,529 --> 00:41:32,573 supposedly endorsing Ford 850 00:41:32,615 --> 00:41:35,075 was a speech for electing Reagan, 851 00:41:35,117 --> 00:41:37,578 and he made it clear that he had a vision. 852 00:41:37,620 --> 00:41:39,997 We've got to quit talking to each other 853 00:41:40,039 --> 00:41:44,084 and about each other and go out and communicate to the world 854 00:41:44,126 --> 00:41:47,046 that we may be fewer in numbers than we've ever been, 855 00:41:47,087 --> 00:41:50,633 but we carry the message they're waiting for. 856 00:41:50,674 --> 00:41:52,176 [Norquist] Reagan was making the case 857 00:41:52,218 --> 00:41:55,304 for a modern conservative Republican Party 858 00:41:55,346 --> 00:42:00,476 that had a serious vision of where it wanted to go. 859 00:42:00,518 --> 00:42:04,230 What a great general said a few years ago is true. 860 00:42:04,271 --> 00:42:07,942 There is no substitute for victory. 861 00:42:07,983 --> 00:42:09,485 Mr. President. 862 00:42:09,527 --> 00:42:11,237 [crowd cheering] 863 00:42:11,278 --> 00:42:12,363 Thank you. 864 00:42:12,404 --> 00:42:14,990 [Spencer] He made the best speech of his life. 865 00:42:15,032 --> 00:42:18,035 It just showed me how badly he wanted it. 866 00:42:18,077 --> 00:42:21,413 After that, Reagan owned the heart of the party. 867 00:42:21,455 --> 00:42:25,251 [man] This was supposed to have been President Ford's night, 868 00:42:25,292 --> 00:42:26,835 and then as he swept off the stage, 869 00:42:26,877 --> 00:42:29,255 the whole auditorium just rose. 870 00:42:29,296 --> 00:42:30,965 I've never seen anything like that. 871 00:42:31,006 --> 00:42:32,508 [man] Saying in effect, Roger, this is what you-- 872 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:33,592 That maybe we picked the wrong man. I don't-- 873 00:42:33,634 --> 00:42:35,636 This is what you might have had. 874 00:42:35,678 --> 00:42:36,679 Exactly. 875 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:37,930 [man] Unless Ronald Reagan 876 00:42:37,972 --> 00:42:41,392 comes to the end of the long trail, 877 00:42:41,433 --> 00:42:43,978 65 is not likely to be a candidate 878 00:42:44,019 --> 00:42:46,230 for public office again. 879 00:42:54,488 --> 00:42:57,283 [Ron Jr.] After the '76 campaign, 880 00:42:57,324 --> 00:42:59,785 I noticed my father mellowing a bit. 881 00:42:59,827 --> 00:43:04,123 Part of that was the fact that he had lost... 882 00:43:04,164 --> 00:43:05,499 [horse nickers] 883 00:43:05,541 --> 00:43:07,126 ...but survived. 884 00:43:07,167 --> 00:43:08,836 Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah! 885 00:43:08,877 --> 00:43:11,088 [Rollins] Reagan told me one time, 886 00:43:11,130 --> 00:43:12,673 "I probably wouldn't have run again 887 00:43:12,715 --> 00:43:14,550 if it wasn't for Mrs. Reagan." 888 00:43:14,592 --> 00:43:15,968 She thought that he had to run, 889 00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:19,221 and he was sort of, "Okay, I took my shot at it. 890 00:43:19,263 --> 00:43:22,349 Gonna go to the ranch and live happily ever after." 891 00:43:22,391 --> 00:43:24,977 hopeful music 892 00:43:25,019 --> 00:43:27,062 She kept persuading him 893 00:43:27,104 --> 00:43:29,356 that he was the man that could change the country. 894 00:43:29,398 --> 00:43:32,443 [man] Ronald Reagan hasn't been heard from much 895 00:43:32,484 --> 00:43:34,361 since he lost the Republican nomination 896 00:43:34,403 --> 00:43:36,322 to Gerald Ford in Kansas City. 897 00:43:36,363 --> 00:43:39,033 While his fellow Republicans have been trying to figure out 898 00:43:39,074 --> 00:43:41,160 what to do about the party, the governors, 899 00:43:41,201 --> 00:43:43,329 the state chairmen, the national committee, 900 00:43:43,370 --> 00:43:47,041 Reagan has been more or less quietly biding his time. 901 00:43:47,082 --> 00:43:48,292 [Ronald] Well, there's nothing like 902 00:43:48,334 --> 00:43:50,294 being in the saddle all day. 903 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,715 Governor Reagan, would you have beaten Jimmy Carter? 904 00:43:54,757 --> 00:43:56,925 I said during the primaries that I thought I could, 905 00:43:56,967 --> 00:43:59,011 and I still believe that I could have. 906 00:43:59,053 --> 00:44:01,472 [man] Where Ford failed Reagan would have won, how? 907 00:44:01,513 --> 00:44:03,223 How would you have put it together? 908 00:44:03,265 --> 00:44:06,644 Well, I think I would have broken into the solid South, 909 00:44:06,685 --> 00:44:09,313 which went for Carter as an-- as a native son. 910 00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:11,899 But what really made the difference, 911 00:44:11,940 --> 00:44:13,359 if you will agree, is the Black vote. 912 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:14,485 Yeah. 913 00:44:14,526 --> 00:44:19,573 Apparently Black Americans find almost nothing 914 00:44:19,615 --> 00:44:21,450 in the Republican Party to attract. 915 00:44:21,492 --> 00:44:23,327 You're anti-people. Bob Dole says 916 00:44:23,369 --> 00:44:25,788 you have the image of being anti-people. 917 00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:27,706 Ah, we have the image, 918 00:44:27,748 --> 00:44:30,834 yes, but... and I don't deny that. 919 00:44:30,876 --> 00:44:33,962 We have been the victims of a false image. 920 00:44:34,004 --> 00:44:37,257 The Republican Party has just done the lousiest job 921 00:44:37,299 --> 00:44:40,094 of merchandising of what it has to offer. 922 00:44:42,805 --> 00:44:45,557 To me, it was realistic that he could have been 923 00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:47,685 a nominee in '76. 924 00:44:47,726 --> 00:44:50,604 Do I think he could beat Jimmy Carter? No. 925 00:44:50,646 --> 00:44:53,399 Reagan's base was the South, 926 00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:57,027 and Jimmy was a hometown Southern boy. 927 00:44:57,069 --> 00:45:01,782 But four years later, when Reagan ran again, 928 00:45:01,824 --> 00:45:04,910 they didn't like their boy. [laughs] 929 00:45:04,952 --> 00:45:08,163 [crowd cheering] 930 00:45:08,205 --> 00:45:11,417 [Alter] Reagan knew he had to win the South in 1980. 931 00:45:11,458 --> 00:45:15,087 To do that, he had to send some messages 932 00:45:15,129 --> 00:45:16,630 that he was on the side 933 00:45:16,672 --> 00:45:18,716 of racist conservative voters there. 934 00:45:18,757 --> 00:45:22,261 He definitely went for 935 00:45:22,302 --> 00:45:24,430 what they called the cracker vote. 936 00:45:24,471 --> 00:45:27,182 [Shearer] Since the end of the '60s, 937 00:45:27,224 --> 00:45:30,394 the Republican Party consciously went after 938 00:45:30,436 --> 00:45:32,229 white voters in the South 939 00:45:32,271 --> 00:45:35,983 by making racial appeals to voters. 940 00:45:36,024 --> 00:45:39,695 [Lopez] This was called the Southern strategy. 941 00:45:39,737 --> 00:45:42,364 And when Ronald Reagan runs for president, 942 00:45:42,406 --> 00:45:44,825 he opts to do the same thing 943 00:45:44,867 --> 00:45:48,162 by going to the deep South and invoke state's rights. 944 00:45:48,203 --> 00:45:51,165 That is a deeply considered strategy. 945 00:45:51,206 --> 00:45:55,210 [Johnson] He is saying I can separate the North and the South 946 00:45:55,252 --> 00:46:00,424 by talking about racial issues that will move white Democrats 947 00:46:00,466 --> 00:46:01,884 to the Republican Party, 948 00:46:01,925 --> 00:46:04,136 I can take the same bigotry, I can dress it up 949 00:46:04,178 --> 00:46:05,471 and I can make it something palatable 950 00:46:05,512 --> 00:46:06,638 to people in the suburbs. 951 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:12,686 You've seen in his campaign the stirrings of hate 952 00:46:12,728 --> 00:46:15,939 and the rebirth of code words like "state's rights" 953 00:46:15,981 --> 00:46:18,859 in a speech in Mississippi. 954 00:46:18,901 --> 00:46:20,486 [Lopez] When Jimmy Carter challenged 955 00:46:20,527 --> 00:46:22,946 Reagan's use of race in the campaign, 956 00:46:22,988 --> 00:46:25,574 the Reagan campaign responded by saying 957 00:46:25,616 --> 00:46:27,701 Carter was being mean to Reagan 958 00:46:27,743 --> 00:46:30,746 as if he was saying Reagan is prejudiced. 959 00:46:30,788 --> 00:46:37,085 I am deeply, deeply offended by the attempts of Mr. Carter 960 00:46:37,127 --> 00:46:39,755 to paint my husband as a man he is not. 961 00:46:39,797 --> 00:46:41,465 That's a cruel thing to do. 962 00:46:41,507 --> 00:46:43,258 [reporter] The president had some rather unkind words for you 963 00:46:43,300 --> 00:46:45,511 last night, Governor. He said if you win the election, 964 00:46:45,552 --> 00:46:47,387 you'll have a divisive effect on the country, 965 00:46:47,429 --> 00:46:50,808 and he suggested that you would separate North from South, 966 00:46:50,849 --> 00:46:53,310 rural from urban, Jew from Christian, 967 00:46:53,352 --> 00:46:54,812 and Black from white. 968 00:46:54,853 --> 00:46:58,982 Well, I think he's a badly misinformed 969 00:46:59,024 --> 00:47:00,234 and prejudiced man. 970 00:47:00,275 --> 00:47:01,860 [man] Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. 971 00:47:01,902 --> 00:47:07,157 The whole fiction of Reagan was that "I am not marginalizing 972 00:47:07,199 --> 00:47:08,784 or dividing the country. 973 00:47:08,826 --> 00:47:11,745 I am finding a more honest, effective way 974 00:47:11,787 --> 00:47:13,539 of helping people." 975 00:47:13,580 --> 00:47:17,125 He packaged this fiction, 976 00:47:17,167 --> 00:47:20,003 and then the only thing that gets in the way 977 00:47:20,045 --> 00:47:22,047 are these bad actors, 978 00:47:22,089 --> 00:47:25,300 welfare mothers, and people of color 979 00:47:25,342 --> 00:47:27,719 and communists and homosexuals. 980 00:47:27,761 --> 00:47:30,264 And people believed it. 981 00:47:30,305 --> 00:47:32,933 [reporter] The Reagan motorcade left Manhattan 982 00:47:32,975 --> 00:47:36,103 for the South Bronx, a high crime, low hope area. 983 00:47:36,144 --> 00:47:39,606 President Carter visited the same site three years ago. 984 00:47:39,648 --> 00:47:41,859 Reagan came, he said, to remind voters 985 00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:45,404 the administration had broken its promise to rebuild the area. 986 00:47:45,445 --> 00:47:47,781 [woman] Go take him now! You his wife! 987 00:47:47,823 --> 00:47:51,535 Señora, you're his wife! Help us, okay? 988 00:47:51,577 --> 00:47:53,120 Help us! 989 00:47:53,161 --> 00:47:55,789 [crowd shouting indistinctly] 990 00:47:55,831 --> 00:47:59,001 I'd just like to point out one thing. 991 00:47:59,042 --> 00:48:01,753 I didn't come down here to make a promise, 992 00:48:01,795 --> 00:48:05,090 I came down here because somebody else made a promise. 993 00:48:05,132 --> 00:48:07,885 [crowd chanting] 994 00:48:11,179 --> 00:48:13,056 [Shearer] Reagan didn't understand 995 00:48:13,098 --> 00:48:15,142 African American life. 996 00:48:15,183 --> 00:48:18,186 He didn't really know Black people. 997 00:48:18,228 --> 00:48:20,939 And that didn't bother him, 998 00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:26,236 but he knew what he was doing when he campaigned. 999 00:48:26,278 --> 00:48:28,947 Listen, wait a minute. 1000 00:48:28,989 --> 00:48:31,950 [woman] Let the man speak! -Cállate la boca! 1001 00:48:31,992 --> 00:48:33,660 Let him speak! 1002 00:48:33,702 --> 00:48:35,078 Right now... 1003 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,204 [indistinct shouting] 1004 00:48:36,246 --> 00:48:41,543 Right now in...right now in Congress, there's some-- 1005 00:48:42,794 --> 00:48:45,714 -I'm trying to tell you! -[woman] But can you? 1006 00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:50,761 I am trying to tell you that I know now 1007 00:48:50,802 --> 00:48:54,181 there is no program or promise that a president can make... 1008 00:48:54,222 --> 00:48:55,223 [man] Thank you. 1009 00:48:55,265 --> 00:48:56,767 ...that the federal government can come in and-- 1010 00:48:56,808 --> 00:48:58,518 -...wave a wand and do this. 1011 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,562 [Scheer] His stock and trade 1012 00:49:00,604 --> 00:49:03,565 was to say, "I really care about you. 1013 00:49:03,607 --> 00:49:06,610 The people who are spending all that government money 1014 00:49:06,652 --> 00:49:08,528 don't really care. 1015 00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:12,574 But he didn't really have a program, 1016 00:49:12,616 --> 00:49:14,159 didn't have an answer. 1017 00:49:14,201 --> 00:49:16,244 When he got before a crowd like that, 1018 00:49:16,286 --> 00:49:18,080 which was almost never happened, 1019 00:49:18,121 --> 00:49:20,207 he was exposed instantly. 1020 00:49:20,248 --> 00:49:23,418 [crowd shouting] 1021 00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:25,337 intriguing music 1022 00:49:25,379 --> 00:49:28,590 The question of whether my father 1023 00:49:28,632 --> 00:49:30,592 was, in fact, racist in some way 1024 00:49:30,634 --> 00:49:34,262 is a troubling one for me and, uh, 1025 00:49:34,304 --> 00:49:37,975 and one that I don't really know how to answer. 1026 00:49:38,016 --> 00:49:41,561 I never heard him at home 1027 00:49:41,603 --> 00:49:45,440 in private ever saying racist things. 1028 00:49:45,482 --> 00:49:48,318 He certainly didn't use the "N" word. 1029 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,904 Nobody talked like that in our house. 1030 00:49:50,946 --> 00:49:53,740 I do not think Ronald Reagan thought 1031 00:49:53,782 --> 00:49:55,367 he was a racist. 1032 00:49:55,409 --> 00:50:00,080 When he visited us at Yale, my friend asked Governor Reagan, 1033 00:50:00,122 --> 00:50:03,083 "Are there any other Black people you know 1034 00:50:03,125 --> 00:50:05,252 other than Jackie Robinson?" 1035 00:50:05,293 --> 00:50:06,837 And that's where Governor Reagan said, 1036 00:50:06,878 --> 00:50:10,841 "Sammy Davis Jr. is one of my best friends. 1037 00:50:10,882 --> 00:50:13,301 So that means I'm not a racist." 1038 00:50:13,343 --> 00:50:19,433 [Wiley] Ronald Reagan made explicitly racist statements. 1039 00:50:19,474 --> 00:50:23,020 We know that from tapes that were only recently released. 1040 00:50:23,061 --> 00:50:25,689 [woman] President Richard Nixon recorded himself talking 1041 00:50:25,731 --> 00:50:28,316 to then-California Governor Ronald Reagan 1042 00:50:28,358 --> 00:50:32,154 in October 1971, the day after the United Nations 1043 00:50:32,195 --> 00:50:35,198 voted to recognize The People's Republic of China. 1044 00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:37,075 Reagan had phoned Nixon at the White House 1045 00:50:37,117 --> 00:50:40,078 to vent his frustration at African delegates 1046 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,705 who celebrated the vote. 1047 00:50:55,844 --> 00:50:58,013 [Lopez] That sort of quote is only part 1048 00:50:58,055 --> 00:51:00,974 of the larger indictment against Ronald Reagan. 1049 00:51:01,016 --> 00:51:06,021 He should also be criticized for being a national leader 1050 00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:09,441 who made the decision to strategically promote 1051 00:51:09,483 --> 00:51:12,444 racial conflict and hatred as a strategy 1052 00:51:12,486 --> 00:51:16,490 to rile up voters and to win elections. 1053 00:51:16,531 --> 00:51:18,200 [indistinct chatter] 1054 00:51:18,241 --> 00:51:19,868 [Shearer] Voters got the message 1055 00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:22,621 that this was not gonna be a president 1056 00:51:22,662 --> 00:51:25,415 that enforced civil rights or voting rights. 1057 00:51:25,457 --> 00:51:28,543 And you could feel good about voting for him 1058 00:51:28,585 --> 00:51:30,921 because he'd supported Jackie Robinson 1059 00:51:30,962 --> 00:51:32,339 playing baseball. 1060 00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:37,636 Let us pledge to each other, with this great lady looking on, 1061 00:51:37,677 --> 00:51:41,640 that we can, and so help us, God, 1062 00:51:41,681 --> 00:51:45,477 we will make America great again. 1063 00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:46,978 -[crowd cheering] -Thank you very much. 1064 00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:50,190 [cheering] 1065 00:51:50,232 --> 00:51:52,442 [Lopez] Reagan's reputation as a dog whistler 1066 00:51:52,484 --> 00:51:56,321 has not had a sufficiently negative impact on his legacy. 1067 00:51:56,363 --> 00:52:00,408 Dog whistling is all about plausible deniability 1068 00:52:00,450 --> 00:52:03,495 that allowed Reagan to protect himself 1069 00:52:03,537 --> 00:52:05,247 and that has allowed the Republican Party 1070 00:52:05,288 --> 00:52:06,915 for the last four decades 1071 00:52:06,957 --> 00:52:10,127 to deny that that's who Ronald Reagan was, 1072 00:52:10,168 --> 00:52:12,003 to turn him into a hero, 1073 00:52:12,045 --> 00:52:14,047 to insist that he really did care 1074 00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:18,135 about the average American working family. 1075 00:52:18,176 --> 00:52:20,053 But when people stand back, 1076 00:52:20,095 --> 00:52:25,183 they see that, in fact, Reagan was a divisive figure, 1077 00:52:25,225 --> 00:52:28,520 someone willing to do what he knew was wrong 1078 00:52:28,562 --> 00:52:31,481 to divide Americans as a way to win power. 1079 00:52:31,523 --> 00:52:36,027 [Wiley] Reagan's genius as a politician 1080 00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:41,241 was that he wrapped his racism in a façade of fatherly love. 1081 00:52:41,283 --> 00:52:42,576 [crowd cheering] 1082 00:52:42,617 --> 00:52:44,494 And it was something that Black people in this country 1083 00:52:44,536 --> 00:52:48,206 understood was a façade, 1084 00:52:48,248 --> 00:52:51,877 and we understood it by his words and his deeds. 1085 00:52:51,918 --> 00:52:55,046 [Ronald] For those without job opportunities, 1086 00:52:55,088 --> 00:52:56,756 we'll stimulate new opportunities 1087 00:52:56,798 --> 00:52:59,593 particularly in the inner cities where they live. 1088 00:52:59,634 --> 00:53:02,721 For those who've abandoned hope, 1089 00:53:02,762 --> 00:53:04,097 we'll restore hope, 1090 00:53:04,139 --> 00:53:06,474 and we'll welcome them into a great national crusade 1091 00:53:06,516 --> 00:53:09,895 to make America great again. 1092 00:53:09,936 --> 00:53:15,192 [jet roaring] 1093 00:53:17,944 --> 00:53:21,656 We have here what, I think, reasonably 1094 00:53:21,698 --> 00:53:23,325 could be called a landslide 1095 00:53:23,366 --> 00:53:26,077 or certainly something approaching a landslide. 1096 00:53:26,119 --> 00:53:27,746 Where did it come from? 1097 00:53:27,787 --> 00:53:28,997 Nobody anticipated it. 1098 00:53:29,039 --> 00:53:32,542 No polls predicted it. No one saw it coming. 1099 00:53:32,584 --> 00:53:33,835 How did that happen? 1100 00:53:33,877 --> 00:53:36,880 [man] Ronald Reagan-- look at what he has done. 1101 00:53:36,922 --> 00:53:40,217 These are the states in blue that he has won. 1102 00:53:40,258 --> 00:53:42,510 Well, who leads the social counter revolution 1103 00:53:42,552 --> 00:53:43,929 that Teddy Kennedy-- -[man] Lawyers. 1104 00:53:43,970 --> 00:53:45,639 I think it'll be somebody whose name 1105 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:47,182 is not a household word tonight. 1106 00:53:47,224 --> 00:53:48,892 [man] Try Senator Biden from Delaware for openers. 1107 00:53:48,934 --> 00:53:50,894 Very impressive young guy, 1108 00:53:50,936 --> 00:53:52,395 in his second term, revisionist Democrat. 1109 00:53:52,437 --> 00:53:55,440 [coughs] Wow, okay. 1110 00:53:55,482 --> 00:53:56,650 [laughter] 1111 00:53:56,691 --> 00:53:58,526 All right. All right. 101356

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