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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:29,709 --> 00:01:33,611 Continuing today's hearing on future VA funding... 2 00:01:33,613 --> 00:01:35,678 the Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs... 3 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,347 is called back to order. 4 00:01:37,349 --> 00:01:38,815 We'll hear from our next witness. 5 00:01:38,817 --> 00:01:41,153 Will you please stand and raise your right hand? 6 00:01:46,859 --> 00:01:49,593 My apologies. 7 00:01:49,595 --> 00:01:52,429 Please raise your right hand. 8 00:01:52,431 --> 00:01:54,565 Do you swear that the testimony you're about to give... 9 00:01:54,567 --> 00:01:56,300 this committee will be the truth, the whole truth... 10 00:01:56,302 --> 00:01:58,470 and nothing but the truth, so help you God? 11 00:01:58,472 --> 00:01:59,538 I do. 12 00:01:59,540 --> 00:02:01,640 Please state your name. 13 00:02:01,642 --> 00:02:06,278 Private First Class Adam Green, United States Army, retired. 14 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,713 Mr. Green, I understand you've prepared a statement? 15 00:02:08,715 --> 00:02:10,248 I have, sir. 16 00:02:10,250 --> 00:02:12,653 You may enter it into the record at this time. 17 00:02:23,797 --> 00:02:28,536 Mr. Chairman, members of the Committee... 18 00:02:30,539 --> 00:02:32,539 I want to thank you for the opportunity... 19 00:02:32,541 --> 00:02:34,440 to speak with you today. 20 00:02:34,442 --> 00:02:36,779 I served in the military f... 21 00:02:40,715 --> 00:02:44,384 I'm sorry, if I could just... 22 00:02:44,386 --> 00:02:47,454 Sure, go ahead. 23 00:02:47,456 --> 00:02:48,558 Thank you, sir. 24 00:02:55,298 --> 00:02:58,600 I've always liked numbers. 25 00:02:58,602 --> 00:03:01,268 Whenever I have a hard time wrapping my head around... 26 00:03:01,270 --> 00:03:05,839 something, I find that numbers make things clearer for me. 27 00:03:05,841 --> 00:03:08,776 They help me understand decisions that are made... 28 00:03:08,778 --> 00:03:12,615 and the impacts of those decisions. 29 00:03:13,917 --> 00:03:15,617 So, if it's all right... 30 00:03:15,619 --> 00:03:20,388 I'd like the start with the number 1.4 million. 31 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:21,923 That's the number of men and women... 32 00:03:21,925 --> 00:03:25,694 who are currently serving in our military. 33 00:03:25,696 --> 00:03:28,630 555... 34 00:03:28,632 --> 00:03:31,399 that's how many days passed before we invaded one country... 35 00:03:31,401 --> 00:03:35,436 after having been attacked by another. 36 00:03:35,438 --> 00:03:38,609 19... is how old I was when I enlisted. 37 00:03:41,279 --> 00:03:43,947 Three is the number of hours that passed from the time... 38 00:03:43,949 --> 00:03:46,382 I arrived in Iraq to the time our transport... 39 00:03:46,384 --> 00:03:48,018 was destroyed by an I.E.D. 40 00:03:48,020 --> 00:03:49,989 And then there's six. 41 00:03:52,957 --> 00:03:55,691 That's the number of inches the piece of shrapnel was... 42 00:03:55,693 --> 00:03:57,696 that severed my spinal cord. 43 00:04:03,401 --> 00:04:06,504 The only problems with numbers is they can be impersonal. 44 00:04:08,874 --> 00:04:12,410 A decision you made had a life-changing impact on me... 45 00:04:12,412 --> 00:04:14,779 and a lot of soldiers like me. 46 00:04:14,781 --> 00:04:17,048 Now, I'm not a military expert. 47 00:04:17,050 --> 00:04:20,884 I don't know a whole lot about geopolitical affairs. 48 00:04:20,886 --> 00:04:23,353 I'm just an ordinary American. 49 00:04:23,355 --> 00:04:24,954 And I understand that you've asked me here... 50 00:04:24,956 --> 00:04:27,791 because you all have some questions for me, 51 00:04:27,793 --> 00:04:33,667 but if it's all right, I'd like to ask all of you a question. 52 00:04:40,673 --> 00:04:42,609 How the hell did this happen? 53 00:04:44,344 --> 00:04:47,746 My fellow citizens, at this hour... 54 00:04:47,748 --> 00:04:50,614 American and coalition forces are in the early stages... 55 00:04:50,616 --> 00:04:54,419 of military operations to disarm Iraq, to free... 56 00:04:54,421 --> 00:04:58,057 its people and to defend the world from grave danger. 57 00:04:58,059 --> 00:05:00,459 The start of the campaign called Shock and Awe. 58 00:05:00,461 --> 00:05:01,927 Shock and Awe. 59 00:05:01,929 --> 00:05:03,862 - Shock and Awe. - Shock and Awe, indeed. 60 00:05:03,864 --> 00:05:05,697 Air raid sirens are going off in Baghdad... 61 00:05:05,699 --> 00:05:07,399 The massive military operation... 62 00:05:07,401 --> 00:05:09,035 to topple Saddam Hussein is now in effect. 63 00:05:09,037 --> 00:05:10,903 Firing 600 Cruise missiles... 64 00:05:10,905 --> 00:05:12,939 and every type of war plane in the American arsenal. 65 00:05:12,941 --> 00:05:15,007 A fearsome display of American military might. 66 00:05:15,009 --> 00:05:16,975 The scale of this attack... 67 00:05:16,977 --> 00:05:18,845 is considerably higher than anything we've seen before. 68 00:05:18,847 --> 00:05:20,748 We're taking out whole buildings... 69 00:05:20,750 --> 00:05:22,149 with these Cruise missiles. 70 00:05:22,151 --> 00:05:23,851 U.S. war planes unleashed... 71 00:05:23,853 --> 00:05:26,152 to promise massive bombardment of Baghdad. 72 00:05:26,154 --> 00:05:28,654 3,000 Tomahawk Cruise missiles... 73 00:05:28,656 --> 00:05:31,724 satellite-guided precision bombs, laser-guided bombs. 74 00:05:31,726 --> 00:05:33,594 I think the citizens of Baghdad know... 75 00:05:33,596 --> 00:05:36,496 exactly what the Pentagon means by Shock and Awe. 76 00:05:36,498 --> 00:05:38,431 Just over the Kuwait-Iraq border... 77 00:05:38,433 --> 00:05:41,467 we watched as columns of troops moved into the country. 78 00:05:41,469 --> 00:05:42,536 They're well on their way to Baghdad. 79 00:05:42,538 --> 00:05:44,105 They have met resistance. 80 00:05:44,107 --> 00:05:45,973 We can't leave the television... 81 00:05:45,975 --> 00:05:50,645 every tank, every helicopter... is that my son? 82 00:05:50,647 --> 00:05:53,114 Now Baghdad is within striking distance... 83 00:05:53,116 --> 00:05:55,016 just a few short miles away... 84 00:05:55,018 --> 00:05:58,018 as U.S. troops make their final push forward. 85 00:05:58,020 --> 00:06:00,487 We want to slaughter them all... 86 00:06:00,489 --> 00:06:03,458 those invaders, their tombs will be here in Iraq. 87 00:06:03,460 --> 00:06:05,727 If Saddam Hussein is alive, he is quote... 88 00:06:05,729 --> 00:06:09,197 "Not in control of his military and of his government." 89 00:06:09,199 --> 00:06:11,834 These are opening stages of what will be a broad... 90 00:06:11,836 --> 00:06:12,838 and concerted campaign. 91 00:06:14,038 --> 00:06:16,040 Could be longer and more difficult than some predict. 92 00:06:17,742 --> 00:06:20,074 And helping Iraqis achieve a united, stable... 93 00:06:20,076 --> 00:06:24,512 and free country will require our sustained commitment. 94 00:06:24,514 --> 00:06:28,216 And you can know that our forces will be coming home... 95 00:06:28,218 --> 00:06:30,788 as soon as their work is done. 96 00:06:34,592 --> 00:06:36,695 Keep moving! Keep moving! Let's go! 97 00:06:39,731 --> 00:06:41,698 - Where are they taking us? - Shut up. Head down. 98 00:06:41,700 --> 00:06:43,667 Keep your mouth shut or I'll blow your fucking head off. 99 00:06:43,669 --> 00:06:45,734 - All right, all right. - Are you a soldier? 100 00:06:45,736 --> 00:06:47,571 - Journalist. - Who do you work for? 101 00:06:47,573 --> 00:06:49,506 - Knight Ridder. - Never heard of it. 102 00:06:49,508 --> 00:06:51,077 You should read more. 103 00:06:55,714 --> 00:06:56,913 What is your name? 104 00:06:56,915 --> 00:06:58,819 Jonathan Landay. 105 00:07:01,521 --> 00:07:03,857 Goodbye, Jonathan Landay. 106 00:07:08,994 --> 00:07:12,028 Exercise complete. 107 00:07:12,030 --> 00:07:15,199 What you have just engaged in is called The Gray Man Exercise. 108 00:07:15,201 --> 00:07:17,235 And what you have just witnessed... 109 00:07:17,237 --> 00:07:20,972 is a colossal failure of that exercise. 110 00:07:20,974 --> 00:07:22,573 If a journalist is captured... 111 00:07:22,575 --> 00:07:24,510 terrorists may keep you alive... 112 00:07:24,512 --> 00:07:28,212 in hopes of getting information or exchanging you for a ransom. 113 00:07:28,214 --> 00:07:31,782 But if you give them a reason to kill you, they will. 114 00:07:31,784 --> 00:07:34,219 The purpose of this exercise is to teach you... 115 00:07:34,221 --> 00:07:36,921 how to avoid drawing the attention of your captors. 116 00:07:36,923 --> 00:07:38,222 Hence the name, Gray Man. 117 00:07:38,224 --> 00:07:39,892 Can you untie me? 118 00:07:39,894 --> 00:07:41,893 This could save your life one day, you understand? 119 00:07:41,895 --> 00:07:44,596 I do, I've been in 11 war zones, I've been shot at... 120 00:07:44,598 --> 00:07:47,566 I've been held captive, I take this very seriously. 121 00:07:47,568 --> 00:07:51,737 But if you don't untie me right now, I may lose my job. 122 00:07:51,739 --> 00:07:53,973 And I'm fairly certain that none of this training... 123 00:07:53,975 --> 00:07:55,607 is going to be very useful... 124 00:07:55,609 --> 00:07:57,580 when I'm mopping the floor at Staples. 125 00:08:06,020 --> 00:08:07,987 Both of the twin towers... 126 00:08:07,989 --> 00:08:10,690 the World Trade Center in New York's lower Manhattan... 127 00:08:10,692 --> 00:08:14,094 have been struck by planes this morning within 20 minutes. 128 00:08:14,096 --> 00:08:16,130 First, it was the North Tower that was struck... 129 00:08:16,132 --> 00:08:18,666 with a gaping hole left in two sides of that building. 130 00:08:18,668 --> 00:08:20,067 Good God. 131 00:08:20,069 --> 00:08:22,101 20 minutes later, the second building... 132 00:08:22,103 --> 00:08:25,005 the second tower in that World Trade Center complex... 133 00:08:25,007 --> 00:08:26,906 I think we should keep Elizabeth in school. 134 00:08:26,908 --> 00:08:28,207 Yeah, no, I think that's a good idea. 135 00:08:28,209 --> 00:08:30,144 Why freak her out, huh? 136 00:08:30,146 --> 00:08:33,347 And I'll call Ali and Jennifer as soon as the phones open up. 137 00:08:33,349 --> 00:08:34,682 - I love you. - I love you. 138 00:08:34,684 --> 00:08:36,017 Okay. 139 00:08:36,019 --> 00:08:37,652 We should tell you that... 140 00:08:37,654 --> 00:08:39,354 we have gotten calls from people... 141 00:08:39,356 --> 00:08:41,623 who live and work around the Pentagon who have told us... 142 00:08:41,625 --> 00:08:43,090 that they have seen something... 143 00:08:43,092 --> 00:08:45,093 that they have described as an explosion. 144 00:08:45,095 --> 00:08:48,032 This is information we have not been able to confirm. 145 00:09:24,136 --> 00:09:25,305 Get up. 146 00:09:28,674 --> 00:09:30,140 Sorry, Dad. 147 00:09:30,142 --> 00:09:32,708 Monday Night Football went long. 148 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:34,746 Let's clean this place up. 149 00:09:42,054 --> 00:09:43,386 Trade Center here in New York... 150 00:09:43,388 --> 00:09:45,255 have been hit by airplanes. 151 00:09:45,257 --> 00:09:48,425 In Washington, there is a large fire at the Pentagon. 152 00:09:48,427 --> 00:09:50,294 The Pentagon has been evacuated. 153 00:09:50,296 --> 00:09:53,430 And there is, you can see, perhaps, the second tower... 154 00:09:53,432 --> 00:09:57,200 the front tower, the top portion of which is collapsing. 155 00:09:57,202 --> 00:09:59,436 Good Lord. 156 00:09:59,438 --> 00:10:04,375 Lot of people going to need a drink tonight. 157 00:10:04,377 --> 00:10:06,680 Soldiers drink free. 158 00:10:09,449 --> 00:10:12,383 There are no words. 159 00:10:12,385 --> 00:10:16,754 All federal office buildings now... 160 00:10:16,756 --> 00:10:19,425 all federal office buildings in Washington, D.C. 161 00:10:19,427 --> 00:10:22,795 are being evacuated as we speak to you now. 162 00:10:22,797 --> 00:10:25,830 We are in the middle of an extraordinary catastrophe. 163 00:10:25,832 --> 00:10:28,867 The most important things to tell you if you just joined... 164 00:10:28,869 --> 00:10:31,969 in is that what has all the makings of an extraordinarily.. 165 00:10:31,971 --> 00:10:35,441 well-planned terrorist attack on both Washington and New York 166 00:10:35,443 --> 00:10:36,909 has taken place this morning. 167 00:10:36,911 --> 00:10:39,044 The Trade Centers here in New York... 168 00:10:39,046 --> 00:10:41,346 the two World Trade Center towers have collapsed... 169 00:10:41,348 --> 00:10:44,653 after being hit by planes. 170 00:10:47,889 --> 00:10:50,989 Yeah, this is John Walcott from Knight Ridder. 171 00:10:50,991 --> 00:10:52,725 Is he there? 172 00:10:52,727 --> 00:10:56,796 Yeah, okay, well, tell him I'll try him back later. 173 00:10:56,798 --> 00:10:58,230 Thank you. 174 00:10:58,232 --> 00:11:00,067 I just spoke with my wife. 175 00:11:00,069 --> 00:11:02,369 She and the kids are afraid to leave the house. 176 00:11:02,371 --> 00:11:05,038 What are they doing over there? 177 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,307 They're watching the White House. 178 00:11:06,309 --> 00:11:07,908 To see if it gets hit? 179 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:09,275 Yes. 180 00:11:09,277 --> 00:11:11,912 Oh, Jesus. All right, go home to your family. 181 00:11:11,914 --> 00:11:15,048 And tell your colleagues that maybe they want to stay away... 182 00:11:15,050 --> 00:11:16,383 from the windows, okay? 183 00:11:16,385 --> 00:11:18,452 - Thanks, John. - Yeah. 184 00:11:18,454 --> 00:11:20,457 Okay. All right. Okay. 185 00:11:23,359 --> 00:11:26,761 Their working thesis is that this is overseas terrorism... 186 00:11:26,763 --> 00:11:28,230 not domestic. 187 00:11:28,232 --> 00:11:30,432 Attention will quickly turn to the bin Laden group... 188 00:11:30,434 --> 00:11:32,233 because it has long tentacles. 189 00:11:32,235 --> 00:11:35,002 There are very few others that could have pulled this off. 190 00:11:35,004 --> 00:11:36,771 Are we sending somebody to New York? 191 00:11:36,773 --> 00:11:39,406 Ken Moore at Suvu was already up there covering Wall Street. 192 00:11:39,408 --> 00:11:40,909 What's going on over at State? 193 00:11:40,911 --> 00:11:42,778 Powell's in Peru. 194 00:11:42,780 --> 00:11:44,379 They're working on getting him home as soon as possible. 195 00:11:44,381 --> 00:11:47,249 All right, what we need to do is track the President. 196 00:11:47,251 --> 00:11:49,551 Track his top people and find out... 197 00:11:49,553 --> 00:11:51,787 who's responsible for all this. 198 00:11:51,789 --> 00:11:54,489 We need as many sources at as many agencies... 199 00:11:54,491 --> 00:11:57,794 to go on the record and tell us all what we know has to be true. 200 00:11:57,796 --> 00:12:01,296 Al Qaeda! Al Qaeda! It's Al Qaeda. 201 00:12:01,298 --> 00:12:02,834 It's definitely Al Qaeda. 202 00:12:04,201 --> 00:12:06,368 What the hell are you wearing? 203 00:12:06,370 --> 00:12:08,570 Well, the wifey wanted to evacuate... 204 00:12:08,572 --> 00:12:12,309 but she locked the cat and the keys in the cars. 205 00:12:12,311 --> 00:12:14,878 So, I biked in. 206 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,849 We need to know how they pulled this off. 207 00:12:18,851 --> 00:12:20,917 Anybody needs to go home to their family... 208 00:12:20,919 --> 00:12:22,853 feel free to do so. 209 00:12:22,855 --> 00:12:25,122 Just came from the family. 210 00:12:25,124 --> 00:12:27,827 Let's get to work. 211 00:12:29,061 --> 00:12:30,594 It's Walcott. 212 00:12:30,596 --> 00:12:33,296 Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life... 213 00:12:33,298 --> 00:12:38,068 our very freedom, came under attack in a series... 214 00:12:38,070 --> 00:12:41,139 of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. 215 00:12:41,141 --> 00:12:42,573 Adam, hand me the Jameson, please. 216 00:12:42,575 --> 00:12:44,875 Yes, sir. Here you go. 217 00:12:44,877 --> 00:12:46,179 Thank you, son. 218 00:12:47,914 --> 00:12:49,246 It's on the house, gentlemen. 219 00:12:49,248 --> 00:12:50,983 Thanks. 220 00:12:52,015 --> 00:12:53,518 Dad's saying we're staying open as late as they want. 221 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,086 They must be scared. 222 00:12:56,088 --> 00:12:59,289 - They're Rangers. - They're boys. 223 00:12:59,291 --> 00:13:03,095 Our military is powerful and it's prepared. 224 00:13:03,097 --> 00:13:04,563 The search is underway for those... 225 00:13:04,565 --> 00:13:06,497 who are behind these evil acts. 226 00:13:06,499 --> 00:13:09,235 I've directed the full resources of our intelligence.. 227 00:13:09,237 --> 00:13:12,438 and law enforcement communities to find those responsible... 228 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,310 and to bring them to justice. 229 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,947 It's been 33 hours since the terrible... 230 00:13:21,949 --> 00:13:24,351 and unprecedented attack on the United States. 231 00:13:24,353 --> 00:13:27,386 There is, as we've said, an enormous search and rescue... 232 00:13:27,388 --> 00:13:32,092 operation, and enormous and intense criminal investigation. 233 00:13:32,094 --> 00:13:33,559 And we're just beginning to understand... 234 00:13:33,561 --> 00:13:36,228 the extents of the catastrophe. 235 00:13:36,230 --> 00:13:38,131 I feel like I haven't slept in a month. 236 00:13:38,133 --> 00:13:40,065 It's going to be a bunch of zombies running this town. 237 00:13:40,067 --> 00:13:41,534 What do you know about the preliminary plans... 238 00:13:41,536 --> 00:13:43,203 to go after bin Laden? 239 00:13:43,205 --> 00:13:45,137 I don't have anything to give you on that yet. 240 00:13:45,139 --> 00:13:47,207 Ok, well, how long before we're on the ground in Afghanistan... 241 00:13:47,209 --> 00:13:49,075 and how long do they project we'll be there? 242 00:13:49,077 --> 00:13:52,579 Look, I'm trying to get answers to the same questions you are. 243 00:13:52,581 --> 00:13:55,683 What I can say is, most of the talk this morning... 244 00:13:55,685 --> 00:13:58,252 hasn't been about Afghanistan. 245 00:13:58,254 --> 00:14:00,057 Well, what's it been about? 246 00:14:01,691 --> 00:14:03,391 Iraq? 247 00:14:03,393 --> 00:14:05,425 I got it from a source at State who got it from the Pentagon. 248 00:14:05,427 --> 00:14:08,094 In connection with the attacks? 249 00:14:08,096 --> 00:14:10,231 Crackpot theories from people who don't know... 250 00:14:10,233 --> 00:14:11,531 what the hell they're talking about. 251 00:14:11,533 --> 00:14:13,134 It was Rumsfeld. 252 00:14:13,136 --> 00:14:14,702 Really? 253 00:14:14,704 --> 00:14:17,138 Yeah, apparently, there's a lot of people over at Defense... 254 00:14:17,140 --> 00:14:19,441 that think this had to be State-sponsored. 255 00:14:19,443 --> 00:14:23,045 I mean, not just Rumsfeld, there's also that smug... 256 00:14:23,047 --> 00:14:26,147 son of a bitch at the Defense Policy Board... 257 00:14:26,149 --> 00:14:27,548 the Prince of Darkness? 258 00:14:27,550 --> 00:14:29,484 - Richard Perle. - Right. Perle. 259 00:14:29,486 --> 00:14:31,719 And that neo-con over at the Project... 260 00:14:31,721 --> 00:14:34,256 for the New American whatever the fuck... 261 00:14:34,258 --> 00:14:35,590 New American Century, Bill Kristol. 262 00:14:35,592 --> 00:14:37,427 That giant butthole, Bill Kristol. 263 00:14:37,429 --> 00:14:41,297 And he's got to be creaming his little jammies over this. 264 00:14:41,299 --> 00:14:43,132 Yeah, these think-tank boys... 265 00:14:43,134 --> 00:14:45,268 have been trying to push out Saddam Hussein since '97. 266 00:14:45,270 --> 00:14:49,238 They have this crazy theory that if they can just stick... 267 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,307 a Western-style of democracy in the Middle East... 268 00:14:51,309 --> 00:14:53,676 it's going to magically proliferate... 269 00:14:53,678 --> 00:14:55,345 and wind up protecting Israel. 270 00:14:55,347 --> 00:14:57,714 You got to give them credit for creative thinking. 271 00:14:57,716 --> 00:15:00,182 It's Ivory Tower crap. 272 00:15:00,184 --> 00:15:03,087 I mean, in what world do they think that Osama bin Laden... 273 00:15:03,089 --> 00:15:05,722 and Saddam Hussein hatched this thing up together? 274 00:15:05,724 --> 00:15:07,758 Let's find out if these dickweeds... 275 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:10,760 are serious about Iraq, okay? 276 00:15:10,762 --> 00:15:12,563 Look, I'm not saying there's a link to Iraq... 277 00:15:12,565 --> 00:15:14,130 and neither is my boss. 278 00:15:14,132 --> 00:15:15,399 This is just something we're hearing. 279 00:15:15,401 --> 00:15:16,699 From whom? 280 00:15:16,701 --> 00:15:19,068 Who told me or where is it coming from? 281 00:15:19,070 --> 00:15:20,504 Take your pick. 282 00:15:20,506 --> 00:15:22,039 Someone at the Pentagon. 283 00:15:22,041 --> 00:15:24,040 In the Vice President's office? 284 00:15:24,042 --> 00:15:25,376 It's just theories. 285 00:15:25,378 --> 00:15:27,378 Are there any Senators talking to anyone... 286 00:15:27,380 --> 00:15:29,580 saying anything different? 287 00:15:29,582 --> 00:15:31,216 I know Powell's objected... 288 00:15:31,218 --> 00:15:34,685 to going into anywhere other than Afghanistan. 289 00:16:06,287 --> 00:16:07,353 Go away. 290 00:16:07,355 --> 00:16:08,686 One question and I'm gone. 291 00:16:08,688 --> 00:16:10,422 I'm not talking to you on the record. 292 00:16:10,424 --> 00:16:13,996 Anonymous source, intelligence community. 293 00:16:15,164 --> 00:16:16,662 You can't use my name. 294 00:16:16,664 --> 00:16:19,099 Never have, never will. 295 00:16:19,101 --> 00:16:20,066 Or my agency. 296 00:16:20,068 --> 00:16:22,005 Pinky swear. 297 00:16:24,106 --> 00:16:26,840 One question. 298 00:16:26,842 --> 00:16:29,746 Are you looking into an Iraqi connection? 299 00:16:31,746 --> 00:16:34,480 Who's the you in that question? 300 00:16:34,482 --> 00:16:36,248 Are we in the United States? 301 00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:37,783 There are some people. 302 00:16:37,785 --> 00:16:39,419 Are we in my agency? 303 00:16:39,421 --> 00:16:41,322 Not that I'm aware of. 304 00:16:41,324 --> 00:16:43,825 Am I, personally? 305 00:16:43,827 --> 00:16:46,293 No way. 306 00:16:46,295 --> 00:16:48,328 Okay, the second part to the question. 307 00:16:48,330 --> 00:16:49,464 No. 308 00:16:49,466 --> 00:16:51,135 Thank you. 309 00:16:53,435 --> 00:16:55,702 So, no one you work with at the Library of Congress has ever... 310 00:16:55,704 --> 00:16:57,772 found a link between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda? 311 00:16:57,774 --> 00:17:00,475 No one I work with would expect to find a link. 312 00:17:00,477 --> 00:17:02,276 So, as far as you know... 313 00:17:02,278 --> 00:17:03,745 there's nothing substantial to tie Iraq to bin Laden? 314 00:17:03,747 --> 00:17:05,413 There's nothing even circumstantial. 315 00:17:05,415 --> 00:17:07,448 To lump together a secular leader like Saddam... 316 00:17:07,450 --> 00:17:10,451 with an Islamic extremist like bin Laden is simply... 317 00:17:10,453 --> 00:17:12,589 to have no understanding of the Muslim world. 318 00:17:16,893 --> 00:17:18,826 It's a bit timid. 319 00:17:18,828 --> 00:17:20,896 No one's actually come out and said anything publicly yet. 320 00:17:20,898 --> 00:17:22,898 Maybe it's just backroom speculation. 321 00:17:22,900 --> 00:17:24,432 Pretty dangerous speculation. 322 00:17:24,434 --> 00:17:26,435 Can't we hit it harder than this? 323 00:17:26,437 --> 00:17:28,371 The attacks were just 10 days ago. 324 00:17:28,373 --> 00:17:29,506 Everyone's trying to play catch-up. 325 00:17:29,508 --> 00:17:31,440 Got to press our reliables. 326 00:17:31,442 --> 00:17:33,442 I'll reach out to The Italian Lady. 327 00:17:33,444 --> 00:17:35,445 You think you can get Loose Nukes to go on the record? 328 00:17:35,447 --> 00:17:37,714 I'm lucky to get her on deep background. 329 00:17:37,716 --> 00:17:41,450 Well, double down on the Charm Offensive. 330 00:17:41,452 --> 00:17:44,219 Buongiorno, this is Warren Strobel. 331 00:17:44,221 --> 00:17:47,489 I was looking to get your advice on a critical scheduling matter. 332 00:17:47,491 --> 00:17:50,560 If you could contact me at your earliest possible convenience... 333 00:17:50,562 --> 00:17:53,530 I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you. 334 00:17:53,532 --> 00:17:54,664 Hello. 335 00:17:54,666 --> 00:17:56,467 Yeah, hi, it's Jonathan. 336 00:17:56,469 --> 00:17:57,934 I don't have anything for you. 337 00:17:57,936 --> 00:18:01,372 No, I know, I know, but I'm doing a story... 338 00:18:01,374 --> 00:18:03,740 on the administration's seeming interest in Iraq. 339 00:18:03,742 --> 00:18:05,742 Jonathan, we're not going to talk about this. 340 00:18:05,744 --> 00:18:08,645 No, I know, I know I'm not talking about this... 341 00:18:08,647 --> 00:18:11,949 because it's off the record, but can you give me some indication? 342 00:18:11,951 --> 00:18:13,319 Bye, Jonathan. 343 00:18:15,321 --> 00:18:16,654 What'd she say? 344 00:18:16,656 --> 00:18:19,191 She sends her love. 345 00:18:19,193 --> 00:18:20,592 Across the nation... 346 00:18:20,594 --> 00:18:22,527 flags have been flying off the shelves. 347 00:18:22,529 --> 00:18:26,431 A wave of patriotism has been spreading across America. 348 00:18:26,433 --> 00:18:30,235 At times like this, it's what we do in America. 349 00:18:30,237 --> 00:18:33,637 We the People pull together. 350 00:18:33,639 --> 00:18:35,640 They had a discussion in school today... 351 00:18:35,642 --> 00:18:38,375 about why America is so great, right? 352 00:18:38,377 --> 00:18:39,845 Yeah, and what'd you say? 353 00:18:39,847 --> 00:18:41,446 It's a free country. 354 00:18:41,448 --> 00:18:42,882 That's a great answer. 355 00:18:42,884 --> 00:18:44,482 That's Mama's boy. 356 00:18:44,484 --> 00:18:46,251 May I be done now? 357 00:18:46,253 --> 00:18:48,253 Not until I get a big hug. 358 00:18:48,255 --> 00:18:51,356 Okay, after your mom gets a hug. 359 00:18:51,358 --> 00:18:52,927 Oh, whoa! 360 00:18:55,629 --> 00:18:57,262 Proud of you, munchie. 361 00:18:57,264 --> 00:18:59,167 Love you. 362 00:19:01,402 --> 00:19:05,004 They're really pushing this nationalism thing at school. 363 00:19:05,006 --> 00:19:06,772 What do you expect? 364 00:19:06,774 --> 00:19:08,575 Of course, there's going to be patriotism now. 365 00:19:08,577 --> 00:19:12,378 Oh, you want to call it patriotism? 366 00:19:12,380 --> 00:19:13,879 Fine. 367 00:19:13,881 --> 00:19:15,648 It smells a lot like nationalism to me. 368 00:19:15,650 --> 00:19:20,620 That's how it started in Yugoslavia before the war. 369 00:19:20,622 --> 00:19:22,591 Tore my country apart. 370 00:19:45,915 --> 00:19:48,849 You want some help? 371 00:19:48,851 --> 00:19:51,487 No, I'm okay, thank you. 372 00:19:53,623 --> 00:19:55,590 Okay, have a good night. 373 00:19:55,592 --> 00:19:56,594 Good night. 374 00:20:04,502 --> 00:20:06,868 How real is the Iraqi conversation? 375 00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:08,870 There's an argument taking place. 376 00:20:08,872 --> 00:20:11,807 Yeah? Who's winning it? 377 00:20:11,809 --> 00:20:13,574 I couldn't say. 378 00:20:13,576 --> 00:20:17,813 Look, my boss is gonna send me to Afghanistan, and all I want.. 379 00:20:17,815 --> 00:20:21,350 to know is should he be buying a roundtrip ticket... 380 00:20:21,352 --> 00:20:25,557 or is Afghanistan just a layover on the way to Baghdad? 381 00:20:29,660 --> 00:20:32,428 I can't tell you anything. 382 00:20:32,430 --> 00:20:34,464 I believe major acts of terrorism... 383 00:20:34,466 --> 00:20:37,567 against the U.S. are state-sponsored. 384 00:20:37,569 --> 00:20:40,771 So, we asked ourselves, "Who could have been behind... 385 00:20:40,773 --> 00:20:43,707 the most massive terrorist assault in human history... 386 00:20:43,709 --> 00:20:45,609 "which state?" 387 00:20:45,611 --> 00:20:50,814 I think Iraq is the state that most immediately comes to mind. 388 00:20:50,816 --> 00:20:53,617 This is an idea which in... 389 00:20:53,619 --> 00:20:55,686 is gaining increased credibility. 390 00:20:55,688 --> 00:20:57,588 Knight Ridder, it's Strobel. 391 00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:59,055 Jim Woolsey is going to Europe... 392 00:20:59,057 --> 00:21:00,791 to try to find a link between Saddam... 393 00:21:00,793 --> 00:21:03,563 and the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. 394 00:21:04,731 --> 00:21:06,598 Is he freelancing? 395 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,734 He was sent on an official government jet. 396 00:21:08,736 --> 00:21:10,968 Jesus, who sent him? 397 00:21:10,970 --> 00:21:13,671 The deputy defense secretary. 398 00:21:13,673 --> 00:21:15,873 Can you meet for coffee? 399 00:21:15,875 --> 00:21:17,412 I'll be in touch. 400 00:21:18,845 --> 00:21:20,845 Hi, this is Warren Strobel with Knight Ridder. 401 00:21:20,847 --> 00:21:22,581 I'm working on a story... 402 00:21:22,583 --> 00:21:24,149 about former CIA director James Woolsey traveling to Europe. 403 00:21:24,151 --> 00:21:26,150 Do you know anything about that? 404 00:21:26,152 --> 00:21:29,154 I didn't have anything to do with that. 405 00:21:29,156 --> 00:21:31,157 But you're aware that such a trip has taken place? 406 00:21:31,159 --> 00:21:34,693 I can't be your only source on this. 407 00:21:34,695 --> 00:21:36,864 All right, stay in touch. 408 00:21:38,665 --> 00:21:41,433 Hey, John. 409 00:21:41,435 --> 00:21:43,568 Woolsey was sent to Europe to look for evidence... 410 00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:46,506 linking Saddam to the World Trade Center bombing in '93. 411 00:21:46,508 --> 00:21:49,674 Wouldn't be a fool's errand if they didn't send a fool. 412 00:21:49,676 --> 00:21:51,510 This came from The Italian Lady? 413 00:21:51,512 --> 00:21:52,711 And a diplomat who can confirm... 414 00:21:52,713 --> 00:21:54,046 the trip was arranged by Wolfowitz. 415 00:21:54,048 --> 00:21:55,716 What the hell is going on over at Defense? 416 00:21:55,718 --> 00:21:57,750 Question is, are they trying to figure out... 417 00:21:57,752 --> 00:21:59,519 if there's any truth to their theory... 418 00:21:59,521 --> 00:22:02,155 or are they already convinced their theory is true? 419 00:22:02,157 --> 00:22:03,891 You're sure about this Woolsey trip? 420 00:22:03,893 --> 00:22:05,892 - Positive. - You have a third source? 421 00:22:05,894 --> 00:22:06,994 - Yeah. - Who? 422 00:22:06,996 --> 00:22:08,798 Jim Woolsey. 423 00:22:21,077 --> 00:22:24,882 Hey, it's Walcott, you up for a field trip? 424 00:22:27,751 --> 00:22:29,717 I figured you'd be calling... 425 00:22:29,719 --> 00:22:31,522 I just didn't think it would be this soon. 426 00:22:34,624 --> 00:22:36,723 How real is the chatter about Iraq? 427 00:22:36,725 --> 00:22:38,593 Very. 428 00:22:38,595 --> 00:22:42,498 And it's diverting our attention from the people who attacked us. 429 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:45,137 How soon before Iraq becomes the focus? 430 00:22:46,870 --> 00:22:49,605 We need to blow something up. 431 00:22:49,607 --> 00:22:51,640 Not enough targets in Afghanistan. 432 00:22:51,642 --> 00:22:52,775 What about bin Laden? 433 00:22:52,777 --> 00:22:54,242 You take out bin Laden... 434 00:22:54,244 --> 00:22:56,680 interest in the war goes right down the shitter. 435 00:22:58,616 --> 00:23:01,817 A joint offensive in its sixth day in Tora Bora... 436 00:23:01,819 --> 00:23:03,786 bin Laden's suspected hideout... 437 00:23:03,788 --> 00:23:06,556 but still no signs of the world's most wanted man. 438 00:23:06,558 --> 00:23:10,126 U.S. B-52s pounding Al Qaeda positions from the air... 439 00:23:10,128 --> 00:23:11,861 while anti-Taliban tanks... 440 00:23:11,863 --> 00:23:13,663 and troops meet strong resistance... 441 00:23:13,665 --> 00:23:16,098 cave to cave, from Al Qaeda fighters. 442 00:23:16,100 --> 00:23:17,968 With yet more conflicting reports... 443 00:23:17,970 --> 00:23:19,972 on bin Laden's whereabouts. 444 00:23:21,907 --> 00:23:23,639 What you got there... 445 00:23:23,641 --> 00:23:25,642 is that your State of the Union piece for tomorrow? 446 00:23:25,644 --> 00:23:27,676 - Yup. - You got a lunch today? 447 00:23:27,678 --> 00:23:29,847 Not with you. 448 00:23:29,849 --> 00:23:31,948 I got a one-on-one with Looney Tunes over at State. 449 00:23:31,950 --> 00:23:33,550 There's a dry hole. 450 00:23:33,552 --> 00:23:35,252 Yeah, well, I figured if I just let him ramble on... 451 00:23:35,254 --> 00:23:37,288 he'll accidentally stumble into something newsworthy. 452 00:23:37,290 --> 00:23:38,723 Yeah, well, give my best. 453 00:23:38,725 --> 00:23:40,758 I will. Hot off the presses, Beryl. 454 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,193 Did you use punctuation this time? 455 00:23:42,195 --> 00:23:44,127 I even threw in a few semicolons just for you. 456 00:23:44,129 --> 00:23:47,732 I bet you're the pride of the University of Missouri. 457 00:23:47,734 --> 00:23:51,769 Terrorists who once occupied Afghanistan... 458 00:23:51,771 --> 00:23:54,641 now occupy cells at Guantanamo Bay. 459 00:23:57,878 --> 00:24:00,945 And terrorist leaders who urged followers to sacrifice... 460 00:24:00,947 --> 00:24:04,249 their lives are running' for their own. 461 00:24:04,251 --> 00:24:08,820 Now, the administration's top priority apart from our own... 462 00:24:08,822 --> 00:24:12,757 security is to ensure freedom for other countries... 463 00:24:12,759 --> 00:24:17,029 looking to embrace democracy as a way of life. 464 00:24:17,031 --> 00:24:19,831 Now, we... excuse me... we understand that we can't... 465 00:24:19,833 --> 00:24:21,833 be the policemen to the world... 466 00:24:21,835 --> 00:24:24,236 but we feel we have a responsibility to... 467 00:24:24,238 --> 00:24:25,638 Yeah, John Walcott. 468 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:27,072 John! 469 00:24:27,074 --> 00:24:28,206 Dixie? 470 00:24:28,208 --> 00:24:29,676 John, can you hear me? 471 00:24:29,678 --> 00:24:31,209 Yeah, yeah, I can hear you. 472 00:24:31,211 --> 00:24:33,580 I got a call from one of our boys downrange today... 473 00:24:33,582 --> 00:24:35,148 asking me what the fuck's going on. 474 00:24:35,150 --> 00:24:36,949 Are you still in Afghanistan? 475 00:24:36,951 --> 00:24:38,584 Yeah, I'm in Afghanistan... 476 00:24:38,586 --> 00:24:40,085 but nobody knows what the mission is anymore. 477 00:24:40,087 --> 00:24:42,021 How do you bomb a country back into the Stone Age... 478 00:24:42,023 --> 00:24:44,190 that's already in the middle of the goddamn Stone Age? 479 00:24:44,192 --> 00:24:47,328 Our second goal is to prevent regimes that sponsor terror... 480 00:24:47,330 --> 00:24:51,698 from threatening America, or our friends and allies... 481 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:53,601 with weapons of mass destruction. 482 00:24:53,603 --> 00:24:57,638 We believe that Afghanistan is ripe for freedom. 483 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:01,041 Now, this is a country that has been struggling to free... 484 00:25:01,043 --> 00:25:04,244 itself from the repressive grip of the Taliban for years. 485 00:25:04,246 --> 00:25:07,615 We've got bin Laden on the run and they're diverting my assets. 486 00:25:07,617 --> 00:25:09,383 We may never get him in our crosshairs again. 487 00:25:09,385 --> 00:25:12,954 Whoa, whoa, wait, they're diverting your assets to where? 488 00:25:12,956 --> 00:25:15,256 Some of these regimes have been pretty quiet since... 489 00:25:15,258 --> 00:25:19,093 September the 11th, but we know their true nature. 490 00:25:19,095 --> 00:25:22,930 You know, it's a country in desperate need of the kind... 491 00:25:22,932 --> 00:25:25,933 of stability that comes with the rule of law. 492 00:25:25,935 --> 00:25:29,938 North Korea, Iran, Iraq... states like these... 493 00:25:29,940 --> 00:25:34,844 and their terrorist allies constitute an axis of evil... 494 00:25:34,846 --> 00:25:36,911 arming to threaten the peace of the world. 495 00:25:36,913 --> 00:25:38,648 You'll have to excuse me... 496 00:25:38,650 --> 00:25:41,217 Warren, but I have to prepare a briefing for Secretary Powell. 497 00:25:41,219 --> 00:25:42,218 Sure. 498 00:25:42,220 --> 00:25:43,385 Anything else you need from me? 499 00:25:43,387 --> 00:25:45,153 No, no, thank you. 500 00:25:45,155 --> 00:25:46,956 I think you've given me more than enough to chew on. 501 00:25:46,958 --> 00:25:48,289 Excellent. 502 00:25:48,291 --> 00:25:49,924 And you feel confident that Afghanistan... 503 00:25:49,926 --> 00:25:51,259 will accept a Western-style democracy? 504 00:25:51,261 --> 00:25:52,761 Oh, absolutely. 505 00:25:52,763 --> 00:25:55,265 Just as confident as we are about Iraq. 506 00:25:55,267 --> 00:25:59,036 Sounds like the debate on Iraq is getting serious. 507 00:25:59,038 --> 00:26:01,837 Oh, no, no, no, that debate is over. 508 00:26:01,839 --> 00:26:05,174 Saddam's got to go, the only question is how. 509 00:26:05,176 --> 00:26:06,343 Good talking to you, Warren. 510 00:26:06,345 --> 00:26:08,247 Yeah, you, too, sir. 511 00:26:10,415 --> 00:26:12,181 The president is going to invade Iraq. 512 00:26:12,183 --> 00:26:13,916 You got this from Looney Tunes? 513 00:26:13,918 --> 00:26:16,018 Yeah, and confirmed by a diplomat who says he met... 514 00:26:16,020 --> 00:26:19,122 with Bush, and a foreign leader recently who came away with... 515 00:26:19,124 --> 00:26:22,460 "The feeling that a decision has been made to strike Iraq." 516 00:26:22,462 --> 00:26:24,761 Do you think we can get enough to run the story? 517 00:26:24,763 --> 00:26:26,899 Unfortunately, I do. 518 00:26:39,779 --> 00:26:41,378 So much for the ceasefire. 519 00:26:41,380 --> 00:26:43,181 Yeah, well, really nice of us... 520 00:26:43,183 --> 00:26:45,820 to temporarily stop shooting at them, though. 521 00:26:57,231 --> 00:26:59,998 ♪ I've been bound up and wound up ♪ 522 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,166 ♪ Could barely get a sound up ♪ 523 00:27:02,168 --> 00:27:03,969 ♪ Been cheated mistreated ♪ 524 00:27:03,971 --> 00:27:06,739 ♪ Don't even want to think of it ♪ 525 00:27:06,741 --> 00:27:08,742 What are you up to, Smucker? 526 00:27:08,744 --> 00:27:11,978 You know, I tried to chat with your translator today. 527 00:27:11,980 --> 00:27:13,512 Yeah, how'd that go? 528 00:27:13,514 --> 00:27:16,249 Well, for a guy who gets paid to talk for a living... 529 00:27:16,251 --> 00:27:18,952 he was unusually quiet. 530 00:27:18,954 --> 00:27:21,287 He only talks to me. 531 00:27:21,289 --> 00:27:25,390 Really? And what'd he tell you? 532 00:27:25,392 --> 00:27:28,360 Dollar, I'll let you read all about it. 533 00:27:28,362 --> 00:27:32,433 Let me see it. 534 00:27:32,435 --> 00:27:36,537 bin Laden's gone, isn't he? 535 00:27:36,539 --> 00:27:40,073 They missed him, didn't they? 536 00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:44,346 He was here and they fucking missed him! 537 00:27:46,381 --> 00:27:48,214 A senior U.S. military official... 538 00:27:48,216 --> 00:27:50,451 tells NBC News "Despite the crushing defeat... 539 00:27:50,453 --> 00:27:52,386 "of Al Qaeda forces at Tora Bora... 540 00:27:52,388 --> 00:27:55,388 "it's believed now that Osama bin Laden has slipped... 541 00:27:55,390 --> 00:27:57,926 "across the border into Pakistan, seeking refuge... 542 00:27:57,928 --> 00:27:59,494 "in a lawless no man's land... 543 00:27:59,496 --> 00:28:02,330 "ruled by renegade tribal warlords." 544 00:28:02,332 --> 00:28:04,232 Oh, it's official... 545 00:28:04,234 --> 00:28:07,068 this is the saddest event I've ever attended. 546 00:28:07,070 --> 00:28:09,036 I'm going back to my apartment, drink a bottle of wine... 547 00:28:09,038 --> 00:28:10,304 and put my head in the oven. 548 00:28:10,306 --> 00:28:12,107 Okay, but before you do that... 549 00:28:12,109 --> 00:28:15,075 I really want you to meet the guy I was telling you about. 550 00:28:15,077 --> 00:28:17,044 Oh! He just walked in! 551 00:28:17,046 --> 00:28:19,046 Forget the wine, I'll kill myself now. 552 00:28:19,048 --> 00:28:23,351 No, not him... him. I'll introduce you. 553 00:28:23,353 --> 00:28:24,486 Pam, please don't. 554 00:28:24,488 --> 00:28:27,389 - Warren! Hey! - Oh, hi. 555 00:28:27,391 --> 00:28:29,191 Glad you could make it, come on over. 556 00:28:29,193 --> 00:28:32,562 Warren, this is a good friend of mine, Lisa Mayr. 557 00:28:32,564 --> 00:28:34,429 Lisa, this is Warren Strobel, he's a journalist... 558 00:28:34,431 --> 00:28:36,101 and I'm gonna get another drink. 559 00:28:38,335 --> 00:28:40,002 Hi, uh, Lisa? 560 00:28:40,004 --> 00:28:41,437 - Yeah. - Yeah, nice to meet you. 561 00:28:41,439 --> 00:28:43,108 - Hi. - Uh... 562 00:28:44,441 --> 00:28:47,444 Did you ever make it into your apartment? 563 00:28:47,446 --> 00:28:51,948 Uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I'm sorry. 564 00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:55,387 - Yeah, I made it in okay. - Good. Good. 565 00:28:57,122 --> 00:28:59,255 So, you're a journalist? 566 00:28:59,257 --> 00:29:02,124 Yeah, yeah, for Knight Ridder. 567 00:29:02,126 --> 00:29:04,928 Oh, is that a magazine or a newspaper? 568 00:29:04,930 --> 00:29:10,034 It's actually a consortium of 31 newspapers, actually. 569 00:29:10,036 --> 00:29:11,568 Well, my stories go out to all of our newspapers... 570 00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:15,073 and each one has the option to publish or not. 571 00:29:15,075 --> 00:29:18,109 Oh, okay. I've always wondered how that worked. 572 00:29:18,111 --> 00:29:19,412 Yeah. 573 00:29:22,582 --> 00:29:26,651 Hey, I got married when I was 22. 574 00:29:26,653 --> 00:29:30,321 And we're only recently separated, so... 575 00:29:30,323 --> 00:29:32,923 This is a little awkward for me. 576 00:29:32,925 --> 00:29:34,293 It's okay. 577 00:29:34,295 --> 00:29:36,228 I'm a little out of practice. 578 00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:40,065 Why don't you start by asking me a question? 579 00:29:40,067 --> 00:29:42,837 Sure, yeah. 580 00:29:44,638 --> 00:29:46,907 Are you a Republican or a Democrat? 581 00:29:48,409 --> 00:29:50,241 Try again. 582 00:29:50,243 --> 00:29:53,278 Yeah, of course, she wants you to call her. 583 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,014 She gave you her card. 584 00:29:55,016 --> 00:29:57,149 No, maybe she's just trying to gin up business. 585 00:29:57,151 --> 00:29:59,653 At a singles mixer on Valentine's Day? 586 00:29:59,655 --> 00:30:01,922 What? So, call her? I should call her? 587 00:30:01,924 --> 00:30:03,957 What? No, no, no, actually, let her dangle. 588 00:30:03,959 --> 00:30:05,925 There's nothing a woman in her 30s likes more... 589 00:30:05,927 --> 00:30:08,161 than a guy who takes his time. 590 00:30:08,163 --> 00:30:09,996 I'm fine, Arthur, I'm fine. 591 00:30:09,998 --> 00:30:12,464 It's just that I'm getting a little tired... 592 00:30:12,466 --> 00:30:14,401 of picking up your paper every morning... 593 00:30:14,403 --> 00:30:16,368 and seeing that you're not running our stories. 594 00:30:16,370 --> 00:30:18,203 I mean, last time I looked... 595 00:30:18,205 --> 00:30:22,042 The Philadelphia Inquirer was a Knight Ridder paper, right? 596 00:30:22,044 --> 00:30:25,946 The point is, there's no point in being a Knight Ridder paper.. 597 00:30:25,948 --> 00:30:27,682 if you're not going to run Knight Ridder stories. 598 00:30:27,684 --> 00:30:29,717 John, we've been through this already. 599 00:30:29,719 --> 00:30:31,419 Your stories don't fit... 600 00:30:31,421 --> 00:30:34,254 in with what we're doing over here right now. 601 00:30:34,256 --> 00:30:36,356 Don't fit? Don't fit with what? The truth? 602 00:30:36,358 --> 00:30:38,259 What's the matter, Arthur... 603 00:30:38,261 --> 00:30:39,993 the truth doesn't sell papers anymore? 604 00:30:39,995 --> 00:30:41,461 And today, for the first time... 605 00:30:41,463 --> 00:30:43,263 the administration provided... 606 00:30:43,265 --> 00:30:46,367 details for what it has always insisted was a connection... 607 00:30:46,369 --> 00:30:49,136 between Saddam Hussein and Al Qaeda. 608 00:30:49,138 --> 00:30:50,705 How strong is that case? 609 00:30:50,707 --> 00:30:53,008 Iraqi president Saddam Hussein says... 610 00:30:53,010 --> 00:30:55,978 he does not have any illegal weapons of mass destruction... 611 00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:59,181 and accused the United States of using weapons... 612 00:30:59,183 --> 00:31:01,716 as a pretext to start a war. 613 00:31:01,718 --> 00:31:06,020 Mr. Galloway, how closely did the movie conform to your book? 614 00:31:06,022 --> 00:31:09,424 The movie was about 80% accurate and 20% bullshit... 615 00:31:09,426 --> 00:31:13,398 which I guess by Hollywood standards is an accomplishment. 616 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,666 What inspired you to write the book? 617 00:31:17,668 --> 00:31:20,069 Being shot at by the North Vietnamese army. 618 00:31:20,071 --> 00:31:22,271 What was the biggest difference between experiencing... 619 00:31:22,273 --> 00:31:26,576 the Battle of Ia Drang in person versus watching it in a theater? 620 00:31:26,578 --> 00:31:28,480 The popcorn in Ia Drang was saltier. 621 00:31:30,048 --> 00:31:31,414 Last question. 622 00:31:31,416 --> 00:31:33,515 Can you draw any comparisons between Vietnam... 623 00:31:33,517 --> 00:31:36,119 and what's happening today in Afghanistan? 624 00:31:36,121 --> 00:31:39,255 It's very different, but I think it is appropriate... 625 00:31:39,257 --> 00:31:43,260 that before we start dropping bombs, we think long and hard... 626 00:31:43,262 --> 00:31:46,030 about the greatest lesson we got from Vietnam. 627 00:31:46,032 --> 00:31:47,664 Which is? 628 00:31:47,666 --> 00:31:52,235 When the government fucks up, the soldiers pay the price. 629 00:31:52,237 --> 00:31:55,304 To what do I owe this unexpected visit? 630 00:31:55,306 --> 00:31:57,640 Well, I was hoping I'd get an autograph... 631 00:31:57,642 --> 00:32:00,244 from the world's most famous war correspondent. 632 00:32:00,246 --> 00:32:04,248 I hate this part. Reporters are not supposed to be the story. 633 00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:07,452 Reporters are not supposed to be awarded the Bronze Star, either. 634 00:32:07,454 --> 00:32:09,821 How do you like the job at State? 635 00:32:09,823 --> 00:32:11,456 I love working for General Powell... 636 00:32:11,458 --> 00:32:13,123 and I hate working for Uncle Sam. 637 00:32:13,125 --> 00:32:14,626 You miss reporting? 638 00:32:14,628 --> 00:32:16,460 After 42 years, I thought... 639 00:32:16,462 --> 00:32:18,263 I should take some time away from it. 640 00:32:18,265 --> 00:32:21,733 So, I went to work at the State Department on September 10th... 641 00:32:21,735 --> 00:32:24,102 and the next day the biggest story of my life broke. 642 00:32:24,104 --> 00:32:26,772 I'd say there's a little bit of a tug. 643 00:32:26,774 --> 00:32:30,508 We're working on something important, that's why I'm here. 644 00:32:30,510 --> 00:32:32,578 To make me envious? 645 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:35,414 To make you an offer. 646 00:32:35,416 --> 00:32:38,716 If he gets weapons of mass destruction, Jerry. 647 00:32:38,718 --> 00:32:40,785 What does that mean for the world? 648 00:32:40,787 --> 00:32:42,521 What does that mean for the Middle East? 649 00:32:42,523 --> 00:32:44,489 - Can you turn it down? - I'm trying to watch the news. 650 00:32:44,491 --> 00:32:46,758 Stop calling it that. 651 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,263 Hey, son. 652 00:32:53,302 --> 00:32:55,835 Adam, what's the matter? 653 00:32:55,837 --> 00:32:58,407 I met with a recruiter. 654 00:33:03,112 --> 00:33:05,381 A lot of people are gonna die, Jerry. 655 00:33:09,383 --> 00:33:11,119 You know once you sign up... 656 00:33:11,121 --> 00:33:12,719 there's no changing your mind, right? 657 00:33:12,721 --> 00:33:14,221 I know. 658 00:33:14,223 --> 00:33:15,856 What do you know? You're just a kid. 659 00:33:15,858 --> 00:33:18,359 Whose country was attacked. 660 00:33:18,361 --> 00:33:20,628 Adam, I know you want to do what you think is right... 661 00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:23,197 but war is not a video game. 662 00:33:23,199 --> 00:33:25,333 You have no idea what you're getting into. 663 00:33:25,335 --> 00:33:27,703 I know exactly what I'm getting into. 664 00:33:31,907 --> 00:33:34,141 Here. 665 00:33:34,143 --> 00:33:38,713 Show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 666 00:33:38,715 --> 00:33:41,415 Show me. 667 00:33:41,417 --> 00:33:43,251 They're gonna send you halfway around the world to fight... 668 00:33:43,253 --> 00:33:45,787 people you didn't even know existed a year ago. 669 00:33:45,789 --> 00:33:48,489 If you know what you're getting into... 670 00:33:48,491 --> 00:33:52,527 show me where Afghanistan is on this map. 671 00:33:52,529 --> 00:33:55,596 Did anyone ever shove a map in Dad's face... 672 00:33:55,598 --> 00:33:58,302 and ask him to find Vietnam? 673 00:34:04,608 --> 00:34:08,344 We now know that Saddam has resumed... 674 00:34:08,346 --> 00:34:10,880 his efforts to acquire nuclear weapons. 675 00:34:10,882 --> 00:34:13,682 Among other sources, we've gotten this from firsthand... 676 00:34:13,684 --> 00:34:15,451 testimony from defectors. 677 00:34:15,453 --> 00:34:18,253 Many of us are convinced that Saddam Hussein... 678 00:34:18,255 --> 00:34:20,956 will acquire nuclear weapons fairly soon. 679 00:34:20,958 --> 00:34:24,794 Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein... 680 00:34:24,796 --> 00:34:26,696 now has weapons of mass destruction. 681 00:34:26,698 --> 00:34:29,600 They're dialing up the rhetoric on Iraq. 682 00:34:29,602 --> 00:34:31,705 Let's see if we can nail them down, okay? 683 00:34:33,772 --> 00:34:36,540 Twenty bucks, whoever gets the best quote. 684 00:34:36,542 --> 00:34:39,475 No, no, no, you're such a child. 685 00:34:39,477 --> 00:34:40,611 You're such a pussy. 686 00:34:40,613 --> 00:34:42,212 I'm not taking your money. 687 00:34:42,214 --> 00:34:43,714 You get all bent out of shape when you lose. 688 00:34:43,716 --> 00:34:45,482 I don't care. I'm just the same when I win or lose. 689 00:34:45,484 --> 00:34:47,250 I'm not... it's not a bet, all right, fine. 690 00:34:47,252 --> 00:34:48,853 Warren Strobel for Senator Biden, please. 691 00:34:48,855 --> 00:34:50,688 Son of a bitch. 692 00:34:50,690 --> 00:34:53,358 Biden told Bush, "There's a reason your father didn't go... 693 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,525 "to Baghdad. He knew he would have to stay... 694 00:34:54,527 --> 00:34:55,994 "for at least five years." 695 00:34:55,996 --> 00:34:58,663 I got Michael O'Hanlon at Brookings saying... 696 00:34:58,665 --> 00:35:01,302 "You definitely cannot count on it being a cakewalk." 697 00:35:02,668 --> 00:35:04,668 We gotta hit it harder than that. 698 00:35:04,670 --> 00:35:06,904 All right, well, hang on. I got an official at the U.N... 699 00:35:06,906 --> 00:35:08,607 that says, "There's widespread concern... 700 00:35:08,609 --> 00:35:10,775 "that this will destabilize the whole Middle East." 701 00:35:10,777 --> 00:35:13,345 Let me see what you have. 702 00:35:13,347 --> 00:35:14,613 Well, wait, I got... I got... 703 00:35:14,615 --> 00:35:16,582 Just give it to me, give, give, give. 704 00:35:16,584 --> 00:35:17,749 Okay. 705 00:35:17,751 --> 00:35:19,785 All right. 706 00:35:19,787 --> 00:35:23,457 Let's see here... all right. 707 00:36:09,872 --> 00:36:11,939 You guys are smart. 708 00:36:11,941 --> 00:36:14,508 You know what's unfolding here. 709 00:36:14,510 --> 00:36:18,514 Our readers need to know what we've learned. 710 00:36:22,084 --> 00:36:25,721 "In the best case scenario, U.S. troops could be stuck in Iraq... 711 00:36:25,723 --> 00:36:28,891 "for years trying to teach the inner workings of democracy... 712 00:36:28,893 --> 00:36:32,761 "to a nation that has never known it. In the worst case... 713 00:36:32,763 --> 00:36:36,732 "scenario, an invasion could cause Iraq's fractious ethnic... 714 00:36:36,734 --> 00:36:39,567 "groups to break off into their own mini-states... 715 00:36:39,569 --> 00:36:42,603 "trapping American combat forces in the middle... 716 00:36:42,605 --> 00:36:45,276 "of a bloody civil war for decades." 717 00:36:47,777 --> 00:36:49,746 Boss man's got balls. 718 00:36:49,748 --> 00:36:51,816 Yeah. 719 00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:26,049 Shit. 720 00:37:26,051 --> 00:37:27,384 Were those for me? 721 00:37:27,386 --> 00:37:30,888 No. Yes. 722 00:37:30,890 --> 00:37:35,558 But I thought it might be a little, I don't know... 723 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,661 a little too soon to be giving each other gifts. 724 00:37:37,663 --> 00:37:39,597 It would've been all right. 725 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:40,865 Okay. 726 00:37:40,867 --> 00:37:43,501 Well, I think they landed on my car... 727 00:37:43,503 --> 00:37:45,536 so if you want to grab them on the way to dinner... 728 00:37:45,538 --> 00:37:47,606 maybe we can do that? 729 00:37:47,608 --> 00:37:49,477 - Great. - Great. 730 00:37:52,612 --> 00:37:55,780 Okay, so what was the most embarrassing thing... 731 00:37:55,782 --> 00:37:57,351 you did to prepare for tonight? 732 00:38:00,119 --> 00:38:02,087 All right. 733 00:38:02,089 --> 00:38:04,589 I will admit, that to prepare for tonight... 734 00:38:04,591 --> 00:38:06,725 I did kind of a cram session on Iraq... 735 00:38:06,727 --> 00:38:09,729 and the history of the Muslim world. 736 00:38:09,731 --> 00:38:10,863 Really? 737 00:38:10,865 --> 00:38:12,631 Yes. 738 00:38:12,633 --> 00:38:15,133 Now I know that 1400 years ago, after the death of Muhammad... 739 00:38:15,135 --> 00:38:17,502 Muslims fought over who was to be his rightful heir... 740 00:38:17,504 --> 00:38:19,171 and that caused a split into two factions... 741 00:38:19,173 --> 00:38:20,573 the Sunnis and the Shiites. 742 00:38:20,575 --> 00:38:22,140 And they've been at war ever since. 743 00:38:22,142 --> 00:38:24,176 Then, at the end of World War I, the British and the French... 744 00:38:24,178 --> 00:38:27,146 arbitrarily divided the Arab world into countries... 745 00:38:27,148 --> 00:38:29,148 putting the Sunni majority in charge. 746 00:38:29,150 --> 00:38:33,887 But the country that became Iraq is made up of only 20% Sunni. 747 00:38:33,889 --> 00:38:38,559 So, Saddam Hussein, a Sunni, with an iron fist rules... 748 00:38:38,561 --> 00:38:39,992 the majority Shiite population... 749 00:38:39,994 --> 00:38:43,563 and the 20% Kurdish population in northern Iraq. 750 00:38:43,565 --> 00:38:46,532 But if Saddam Hussein were removed, it could possibly... 751 00:38:46,534 --> 00:38:49,101 reignite that 1400-year-old sectarian war. 752 00:38:49,103 --> 00:38:51,205 Now, after reading your stories... 753 00:38:51,207 --> 00:38:54,876 I know that Iran is the top sponsor of terror, not Iraq. 754 00:38:54,878 --> 00:38:58,513 That a man named Ahmed Chalabi seems to be a con artist... 755 00:38:58,515 --> 00:39:00,515 who wants to replace Saddam Hussein. 756 00:39:00,517 --> 00:39:02,216 That the neo-cons in the Bush Administration... 757 00:39:02,218 --> 00:39:03,852 are pushing for an invasion. 758 00:39:03,854 --> 00:39:07,488 And you are quickly becoming my favorite writer. 759 00:39:07,490 --> 00:39:09,059 Wow. 760 00:39:13,128 --> 00:39:17,732 Um... I guess it's my turn. 761 00:39:17,734 --> 00:39:18,833 Give it to me. 762 00:39:18,835 --> 00:39:21,904 Okay, I will admit that... 763 00:39:21,906 --> 00:39:25,540 This is a little embarrassing. 764 00:39:25,542 --> 00:39:30,578 I asked my ex-wife to watch my two sons tonight. 765 00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:32,147 Why is that embarrassing? 766 00:39:32,149 --> 00:39:34,083 Because a babysitter would expect me home... 767 00:39:34,085 --> 00:39:38,020 at the end of the evening and... 768 00:39:38,022 --> 00:39:41,091 Should we get the check? 769 00:39:41,093 --> 00:39:44,561 Tell your boss we're gonna run it whether he comments or not! 770 00:39:44,563 --> 00:39:47,664 Actually yes, it is a matter of life and death! 771 00:39:47,666 --> 00:39:51,300 We're talking about going to fucking war! 772 00:39:51,302 --> 00:39:53,738 Hello? 773 00:39:55,106 --> 00:39:57,874 I'm guessing that was a no comment? 774 00:39:57,876 --> 00:40:00,075 What are you grinning about? 775 00:40:00,077 --> 00:40:01,778 What? I'm not grinning. 776 00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:04,549 - You're grinning. - I'm not grinning. 777 00:40:04,551 --> 00:40:05,917 - I'm not... - What have you got over there? 778 00:40:05,919 --> 00:40:07,652 Relax! Don't worry about it. 779 00:40:07,654 --> 00:40:09,152 Oh my God, she could do my taxes. 780 00:40:09,154 --> 00:40:11,054 All right, relax. 781 00:40:11,056 --> 00:40:13,694 - Strobel, Knight Ridder. - Of course. 782 00:40:16,696 --> 00:40:18,828 Okay. 783 00:40:18,830 --> 00:40:21,132 All right, I'll be right there. 784 00:40:21,134 --> 00:40:23,103 Let's go, this could be something. 785 00:40:28,007 --> 00:40:30,075 So, how does this work? 786 00:40:30,077 --> 00:40:33,181 Do you ask me questions or do I just start talking? 787 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,814 Why don't you just begin... 788 00:40:36,816 --> 00:40:38,215 and we'll ask the questions when we have them. 789 00:40:38,217 --> 00:40:40,751 If it's off the record, I have to say so, right? 790 00:40:40,753 --> 00:40:43,188 Do you want it to be off the record? 791 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:46,858 I want people to know what I know, but not who I am. 792 00:40:46,860 --> 00:40:48,626 It'll be background. 793 00:40:48,628 --> 00:40:51,065 You'll be referred to as a U.S. official. 794 00:40:57,973 --> 00:41:00,743 So, whatever you feel comfortable telling us. 795 00:41:04,145 --> 00:41:07,346 I believe your prediction about what could and will happen... 796 00:41:07,348 --> 00:41:09,915 if we go to war is spot on. 797 00:41:09,917 --> 00:41:12,652 And we're a lot closer than you think. 798 00:41:12,654 --> 00:41:14,219 How close? 799 00:41:14,221 --> 00:41:17,291 A secret war planning group with a parallel intelligence... 800 00:41:17,293 --> 00:41:19,892 operation has been set up to bypass... 801 00:41:19,894 --> 00:41:22,162 the rest of the intelligence community. 802 00:41:22,164 --> 00:41:23,697 How do you know this? 803 00:41:23,699 --> 00:41:26,132 They meet in the building where I work. 804 00:41:26,134 --> 00:41:28,135 And which building is that? 805 00:41:28,137 --> 00:41:32,873 The one with the five sides. 806 00:41:32,875 --> 00:41:33,974 But you're not a part of that unit? 807 00:41:33,976 --> 00:41:35,208 No. 808 00:41:35,210 --> 00:41:36,844 So, how do you know about this? 809 00:41:36,846 --> 00:41:39,112 My desk is across the hall. 810 00:41:39,114 --> 00:41:41,415 What office do you work for? 811 00:41:41,417 --> 00:41:46,020 Near East South Asia division, but you can't disclose that. 812 00:41:46,022 --> 00:41:48,022 You're an analyst? 813 00:41:48,024 --> 00:41:52,060 Yes... but you can't disclose that, either. 814 00:41:52,062 --> 00:41:54,328 I'm speaking to you because I'm an American citizen... 815 00:41:54,330 --> 00:41:56,930 and I don't like what these people are doing. 816 00:41:56,932 --> 00:42:00,301 Half a dozen men, most of whom have never served... 817 00:42:00,303 --> 00:42:02,437 in the military are making decisions... 818 00:42:02,439 --> 00:42:05,907 based on shoddy intelligence, and those decisions... 819 00:42:05,909 --> 00:42:08,376 will impact our men and women in uniform. 820 00:42:08,378 --> 00:42:15,684 And as someone who has worn that uniform, I can't remain silent. 821 00:42:15,686 --> 00:42:20,989 You said shoddy intelligence. What do you mean by that? 822 00:42:20,991 --> 00:42:24,092 They've designed a process that doesn't conform... 823 00:42:24,094 --> 00:42:27,262 to any basic tenet of intelligence gathering. 824 00:42:27,264 --> 00:42:28,765 In what way? 825 00:42:28,767 --> 00:42:30,966 A decision is made, then the intelligence... 826 00:42:30,968 --> 00:42:34,403 is sought to support that decision. 827 00:42:34,405 --> 00:42:36,006 How do you know this? 828 00:42:36,008 --> 00:42:39,008 They have no interest in Arabic speakers. 829 00:42:39,010 --> 00:42:41,812 Israelis come in without passes... 830 00:42:41,814 --> 00:42:44,981 without even being entered into a security log. 831 00:42:44,983 --> 00:42:48,118 And for years the government has been funding a group... 832 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,489 of exiled dissidents called the Iraqi National Congress. 833 00:42:52,491 --> 00:42:54,726 Led by Ahmad Chalabi, we know. 834 00:42:54,728 --> 00:42:57,761 Who they want to install as the new leader of Iraq. 835 00:42:57,763 --> 00:42:59,831 Yeah, we've been trying to get a meeting with him. 836 00:42:59,833 --> 00:43:02,101 Do you know who set up this operation? 837 00:43:05,971 --> 00:43:08,906 Donald Rumsfeld. 838 00:43:08,908 --> 00:43:10,974 Is there any evidence to indicate that Iraq... 839 00:43:10,976 --> 00:43:15,445 has attempted to or is willing to supply terrorists... 840 00:43:15,447 --> 00:43:17,749 with weapons of mass destruction? 841 00:43:17,751 --> 00:43:22,220 The reports that say that something hasn't happened... 842 00:43:22,222 --> 00:43:25,858 are always interesting to me because as we know... 843 00:43:25,860 --> 00:43:30,095 there are known knowns, there are things we know we know. 844 00:43:30,097 --> 00:43:32,430 We also know there are known unknowns. 845 00:43:32,432 --> 00:43:35,968 That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. 846 00:43:35,970 --> 00:43:38,504 But there are also unknown unknowns. 847 00:43:38,506 --> 00:43:40,338 The one's we don't know we don't know. 848 00:43:40,340 --> 00:43:42,909 We're working on a theory that the administration... 849 00:43:42,911 --> 00:43:44,409 has already decided to go to war... 850 00:43:44,411 --> 00:43:46,346 and is now focused on how to justify it. 851 00:43:46,348 --> 00:43:48,214 It's not a theory. 852 00:43:48,216 --> 00:43:50,784 We've also been told by a number of individuals that... 853 00:43:50,786 --> 00:43:53,853 Rumsfeld's the one spearheading this intelligence gathering. 854 00:43:53,855 --> 00:43:56,255 I wouldn't exactly call it intelligence gathering. 855 00:43:56,257 --> 00:43:58,290 It's more like intelligence cherry picking. 856 00:43:58,292 --> 00:43:59,958 And if they don't find any cherries... 857 00:43:59,960 --> 00:44:01,527 they just grab a piece of shit... 858 00:44:01,529 --> 00:44:04,897 and they paint it red, and they stick it in a Shirley Temple. 859 00:44:04,899 --> 00:44:08,269 You seem irritated. 860 00:44:08,271 --> 00:44:10,938 I'm out there looking for weapons that might not exist... 861 00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:13,506 to justify a war that might not be wise. 862 00:44:13,508 --> 00:44:18,044 And have you found any evidence of WMD? 863 00:44:18,046 --> 00:44:19,914 No, sir. 864 00:44:19,916 --> 00:44:22,048 But Saddam is looking to acquire nukes, right? 865 00:44:22,050 --> 00:44:24,985 Yeah, and I'm trying to fuck Jennifer Lopez, but I have... 866 00:44:24,987 --> 00:44:27,253 a sinking feeling that neither of those things is gonna happen. 867 00:44:27,255 --> 00:44:32,060 So, we won't use your identity, but can we get a quote? 868 00:44:32,062 --> 00:44:33,828 Sure. 869 00:44:33,830 --> 00:44:35,996 Have you found anything to support the administration's... 870 00:44:35,998 --> 00:44:39,466 theory that Saddam is close to or has acquired nuclear weapons? 871 00:44:39,468 --> 00:44:41,036 We've searched every cave... 872 00:44:41,038 --> 00:44:43,471 and looked up every camel's ass in Iraq. 873 00:44:43,473 --> 00:44:48,312 So, here's your quote, "no fucking way." 874 00:44:50,214 --> 00:44:52,047 Might have to clean that up a bit. 875 00:44:52,049 --> 00:44:55,150 Quite colorful, though. 876 00:44:55,152 --> 00:44:56,284 Uh, honey, I think someone... 877 00:44:56,286 --> 00:44:57,987 is stealing our New York Times. 878 00:44:57,989 --> 00:44:59,322 I canceled it. 879 00:44:59,324 --> 00:45:01,190 Why would you do that? 880 00:45:01,192 --> 00:45:02,458 It's propaganda. 881 00:45:02,460 --> 00:45:04,260 I need that for my work. 882 00:45:04,262 --> 00:45:06,628 It's packaging press releases from the White House... 883 00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:08,630 the State Department, and the Pentagon. 884 00:45:08,632 --> 00:45:10,535 Sorry, that's not a real newspaper. 885 00:45:17,442 --> 00:45:20,009 How was your day? 886 00:45:20,011 --> 00:45:22,279 Warren and I met with some gentleman... 887 00:45:22,281 --> 00:45:24,614 from the intelligence community who confirmed that... 888 00:45:24,616 --> 00:45:26,649 there's no real evidence to support... 889 00:45:26,651 --> 00:45:29,988 the administration's claim on WMD. 890 00:45:32,457 --> 00:45:35,225 What have I been telling you? 891 00:45:35,227 --> 00:45:39,499 Well, unfortunately, I can't use your gut as a reliable source. 892 00:45:44,471 --> 00:45:47,472 You know, this is what they do. They lie. 893 00:45:47,474 --> 00:45:50,444 Yeah, and we try to hold them accountable. 894 00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:56,347 I hope I'm wrong. I really, really do. 895 00:45:56,349 --> 00:45:59,483 But the Bush Administration, they don't care about the truth. 896 00:45:59,485 --> 00:46:02,219 They don't even respond to your articles. 897 00:46:02,221 --> 00:46:05,322 If they want a war, they're gonna get one. 898 00:46:05,324 --> 00:46:08,026 And there's nothing that you or the first amendment... 899 00:46:08,028 --> 00:46:09,463 is gonna do to stop them. 900 00:46:23,343 --> 00:46:25,246 Extra, extra, read all about it. 901 00:46:31,453 --> 00:46:35,322 "Over the past 14 months, Iraq has tried to buy thousands... 902 00:46:35,324 --> 00:46:38,525 "of specially design aluminum tubes, which American... 903 00:46:38,527 --> 00:46:40,559 "officials believe were intended as components... 904 00:46:40,561 --> 00:46:44,496 "of centrifuges to enrich uranium." 905 00:46:44,498 --> 00:46:46,266 Well, one thing's for sure. 906 00:46:46,268 --> 00:46:47,701 What's that? 907 00:46:47,703 --> 00:46:50,206 We can't both be right. 908 00:46:53,708 --> 00:46:55,042 Who're you calling? 909 00:46:55,044 --> 00:46:56,977 Loose Nukes. 910 00:46:56,979 --> 00:46:58,546 If she wouldn't talk to you about going into Iraq... 911 00:46:58,548 --> 00:47:01,147 what makes you think she's gonna go on the record on WMD? 912 00:47:01,149 --> 00:47:04,153 Charm Offensive. Watch and learn, son. 913 00:47:08,224 --> 00:47:09,693 Landay. 914 00:47:12,394 --> 00:47:15,495 - It's Joe Galloway. - Wow. 915 00:47:15,497 --> 00:47:17,631 Man even walks like he has a Bronze Star. 916 00:47:17,633 --> 00:47:19,000 Hello. 917 00:47:19,002 --> 00:47:21,302 Oh, hi, yeah, it's Landay. 918 00:47:21,304 --> 00:47:22,603 Hello, Jonathan. 919 00:47:22,605 --> 00:47:28,409 Hi. Crazy weather we're having, huh? 920 00:47:28,411 --> 00:47:30,444 You're calling me to chat about the weather? 921 00:47:30,446 --> 00:47:35,083 No, no, yeah. Actually, I wanted to ask you about WMD. 922 00:47:35,085 --> 00:47:36,650 It'll be deep, deep background. 923 00:47:36,652 --> 00:47:38,319 Goodbye, Jonathan. 924 00:47:38,321 --> 00:47:41,255 No wait, don't hang up. 925 00:47:41,257 --> 00:47:45,227 That Charm Offensive... that's formidable. 926 00:47:45,229 --> 00:47:49,499 Listen, we need you here. 927 00:47:49,501 --> 00:47:52,200 You've developed sources over the years that have access... 928 00:47:52,202 --> 00:47:55,238 that Landay and Strobel just can't get. 929 00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:56,639 I'll make it easy on you. 930 00:47:56,641 --> 00:47:58,441 I'll give you a column... 931 00:47:58,443 --> 00:48:02,477 and your name doesn't have to appear on anything else. 932 00:48:02,479 --> 00:48:05,314 Whatever else you want to write on the side, you can... 933 00:48:05,316 --> 00:48:07,583 and of course, there won't be any glory, but... 934 00:48:07,585 --> 00:48:09,756 Glory's for young men. 935 00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:14,491 Let me percolate on it. 936 00:48:14,493 --> 00:48:16,560 Let me turn to the issue of Iraq. 937 00:48:16,562 --> 00:48:19,596 You have said that it poses... 938 00:48:19,598 --> 00:48:21,832 a mortal threat to the United States. 939 00:48:21,834 --> 00:48:25,435 How? Define "mortal threat." 940 00:48:25,437 --> 00:48:30,239 Well, this'll take some time, but it's important for us... 941 00:48:30,241 --> 00:48:32,142 as I mentioned earlier... 942 00:48:32,144 --> 00:48:35,079 to remember that the world has changed, that prior to... 943 00:48:35,081 --> 00:48:36,814 I'd forgotten the world had changed. 944 00:48:36,816 --> 00:48:38,749 So did I. I'm so happy he mentioned that. 945 00:48:38,751 --> 00:48:42,387 What, specifically, has he obtained that you believe... 946 00:48:42,389 --> 00:48:44,822 would enhance his nuclear development program? 947 00:48:44,824 --> 00:48:46,858 Well, in the nuclear weapons arena... 948 00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:49,660 you've got specifically aluminum tubes. 949 00:48:49,662 --> 00:48:51,429 There's a story in The New York Times this morning... 950 00:48:51,431 --> 00:48:54,532 this is and I want to attribute to The Times. 951 00:48:54,534 --> 00:48:56,468 I don't want to talk about, obviously... 952 00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:59,638 specific intelligence sources, but it's now public that... 953 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,676 in fact he has been seeking to acquire, and we have been... 954 00:49:04,678 --> 00:49:07,480 able to intercept and prevent him from acquiring... 955 00:49:07,482 --> 00:49:09,181 through this particular channel... 956 00:49:09,183 --> 00:49:11,317 the kinds of tubes that are necessary... 957 00:49:11,319 --> 00:49:13,118 to build a centrifuge. 958 00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:16,154 And the centrifuge is required to take low-grade uranium... 959 00:49:16,156 --> 00:49:19,591 and enhance it into highly enriched uranium... 960 00:49:19,593 --> 00:49:22,362 which is what you have to have in order to build a bomb. 961 00:49:22,364 --> 00:49:24,898 Lucky for him, someone leaked that to The Times. 962 00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:28,201 Avoids the pesky nuisance of being arrested... 963 00:49:28,203 --> 00:49:29,836 for revealing classified information. 964 00:49:29,838 --> 00:49:31,871 One can only wonder how Judy Miller and Michael Gordon... 965 00:49:31,873 --> 00:49:32,905 got that information. 966 00:49:32,907 --> 00:49:36,610 Does it bother you, bug you... 967 00:49:36,612 --> 00:49:39,746 that you have not captured Osama bin Laden in over a year? 968 00:49:39,748 --> 00:49:46,486 I'd like to see him on television in handcuffs... 969 00:49:46,488 --> 00:49:48,522 if I can put it into those terms. 970 00:49:48,524 --> 00:49:50,491 I think all of us would. 971 00:49:50,493 --> 00:49:54,261 But I don't lay awake at night concerned about that. 972 00:49:54,263 --> 00:49:56,596 There's one school of thought that says he's already dead. 973 00:49:56,598 --> 00:49:58,198 We haven't heard anything of him in many months. 974 00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,566 What do you think? 975 00:49:59,568 --> 00:50:00,667 I don't know, I really don't know. 976 00:50:00,669 --> 00:50:02,602 I can argue it round or flat. 977 00:50:02,604 --> 00:50:05,205 I didn't know we were still debating the shape of the earth. 978 00:50:05,207 --> 00:50:07,176 I've got sources on both sides. 979 00:50:09,246 --> 00:50:11,679 But the U.S. military would be enormously effective... 980 00:50:11,681 --> 00:50:13,549 in this circumstance. 981 00:50:13,551 --> 00:50:16,485 And I don't think it would be that tough a fight. 982 00:50:16,487 --> 00:50:18,420 That is, I don't think there's any question... 983 00:50:18,422 --> 00:50:20,255 that we would prevail and we would achieve our objective. 984 00:50:20,257 --> 00:50:22,690 Landay. 985 00:50:22,692 --> 00:50:25,326 Yeah? 986 00:50:25,328 --> 00:50:27,664 We are right, aren't we? 987 00:50:29,900 --> 00:50:31,869 Everybody, listen up. 988 00:50:35,874 --> 00:50:37,843 We're not NBC. 989 00:50:39,311 --> 00:50:41,376 We're not ABC. We're not CBS. 990 00:50:41,378 --> 00:50:44,382 We're not FOX. We're not CNN. 991 00:50:45,517 --> 00:50:47,617 We're not The New York Times. 992 00:50:47,619 --> 00:50:49,588 We're not The Washington Post. 993 00:50:51,488 --> 00:50:53,458 We are Knight Ridder. 994 00:50:57,563 --> 00:51:03,634 We have readers who live in towns with military bases. 995 00:51:03,636 --> 00:51:07,371 Fort Benning, Fort Bragg, Fort Jackson... 996 00:51:07,373 --> 00:51:13,710 and over 40 other military bases throughout this country. 997 00:51:13,712 --> 00:51:18,482 If every other news organization wants to be stenographers... 998 00:51:18,484 --> 00:51:21,555 for the Bush administration, let them. 999 00:51:23,823 --> 00:51:27,695 We don't write for people who send other people's kids to war. 1000 00:51:29,762 --> 00:51:34,235 We write for people whose kids get sent to war. 1001 00:51:36,903 --> 00:51:39,370 So, when the government says something... 1002 00:51:39,372 --> 00:51:41,876 you only have one question to ask. 1003 00:51:45,379 --> 00:51:47,315 Is it true? 1004 00:51:53,488 --> 00:51:55,424 I'm through percolating. 1005 00:51:58,526 --> 00:52:00,458 Let's get to work. 1006 00:52:00,460 --> 00:52:02,728 Administration officials spanned out on the Sunday talk shows... 1007 00:52:02,730 --> 00:52:04,964 to make the case for an invasion of Iraq. 1008 00:52:04,966 --> 00:52:07,933 Who else is involved in The Office of Special Planning? 1009 00:52:07,935 --> 00:52:11,637 Wolfowitz, Feith, couple others. 1010 00:52:11,639 --> 00:52:14,006 Instead of listening to people who have spent their careers... 1011 00:52:14,008 --> 00:52:17,843 evaluating threats, they're streaming questionable intel... 1012 00:52:17,845 --> 00:52:19,746 from unreliable sources and taking it... 1013 00:52:19,748 --> 00:52:21,548 directly to the White House. 1014 00:52:21,550 --> 00:52:23,784 George Tenet, Director of Central Intelligence... 1015 00:52:23,786 --> 00:52:26,385 told Senators, he could not rule out cooperation... 1016 00:52:26,387 --> 00:52:27,656 between Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda. 1017 00:52:30,425 --> 00:52:32,626 I've seen the specs on those aluminum tubes. 1018 00:52:32,628 --> 00:52:34,661 They're too small to be used for enriching uranium. 1019 00:52:34,663 --> 00:52:36,064 What does that mean? 1020 00:52:36,066 --> 00:52:37,832 They can't be used for a nuclear bomb. 1021 00:52:37,834 --> 00:52:39,634 The President of the United States... 1022 00:52:39,636 --> 00:52:40,968 said we're not going to permit nations to develop... 1023 00:52:40,970 --> 00:52:42,937 weapons of mass destruction... 1024 00:52:42,939 --> 00:52:44,739 as they're gonna supply those weapons to a network... 1025 00:52:44,741 --> 00:52:46,406 of terrorism that could attack the United States. 1026 00:52:46,408 --> 00:52:48,910 Cheney is trying to shut out Powell. 1027 00:52:48,912 --> 00:52:50,511 Where'd you get this stuff? 1028 00:52:50,513 --> 00:52:52,379 Old friend. 1029 00:52:52,381 --> 00:52:54,415 We're starting to see a consensus from within... 1030 00:52:54,417 --> 00:52:56,417 the administration for the removal of Saddam Hussein. 1031 00:52:56,419 --> 00:52:58,420 The administration has pointed... 1032 00:52:58,422 --> 00:53:00,722 to a secret meeting in Prague between Iraqi intelligence... 1033 00:53:00,724 --> 00:53:02,490 and 9/11 hijacker, Mohamed Atta. 1034 00:53:02,492 --> 00:53:04,460 Bush administration is pressing the United Nations... 1035 00:53:04,462 --> 00:53:06,595 Security Council for a resolution... 1036 00:53:06,597 --> 00:53:08,496 to put pressure on Iraq. 1037 00:53:08,498 --> 00:53:10,465 President Bush will address the United Nations today... 1038 00:53:10,467 --> 00:53:12,800 in hopes of putting together a multi-national coalition... 1039 00:53:12,802 --> 00:53:14,635 to disarm Saddam Hussein. 1040 00:53:14,637 --> 00:53:16,739 The White House is lobbying Congress to authorize... 1041 00:53:16,741 --> 00:53:18,840 the use of force in Iraq. 1042 00:53:18,842 --> 00:53:20,909 The minute these guys get their hands on anything... 1043 00:53:20,911 --> 00:53:22,578 remotely resembling evidence... 1044 00:53:22,580 --> 00:53:24,513 they leak it to The New York Times. 1045 00:53:24,515 --> 00:53:25,915 Now, I understand the position you're in... 1046 00:53:25,917 --> 00:53:28,551 but please don't hang up on me. 1047 00:53:28,553 --> 00:53:30,018 Okay. 1048 00:53:30,020 --> 00:53:33,589 Okay, the vice president of the United States... 1049 00:53:33,591 --> 00:53:37,026 went to the V.F.W. and said that Saddam Hussein... 1050 00:53:37,028 --> 00:53:39,995 is on the threshold of developing a nuclear weapon. 1051 00:53:39,997 --> 00:53:42,598 Then he goes on national television... 1052 00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:43,832 and says the same thing. 1053 00:53:43,834 --> 00:53:47,103 Your question? 1054 00:53:47,105 --> 00:53:50,541 Ask the question. 1055 00:53:50,543 --> 00:53:53,576 What I want to know is, is Dick Cheney ignoring... 1056 00:53:53,578 --> 00:53:56,146 good intelligence that contradicts his assumptions... 1057 00:53:56,148 --> 00:54:00,117 or is he just getting bad intelligence? 1058 00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:03,724 The vice president is lying. 1059 00:54:05,924 --> 00:54:07,824 Thank you, thank you so much. 1060 00:54:07,826 --> 00:54:10,094 What? What, what, what? What'd she say? 1061 00:54:10,096 --> 00:54:11,830 He's lying. 1062 00:54:11,832 --> 00:54:13,832 - He's lying. - Cheney is lying. 1063 00:54:13,834 --> 00:54:16,033 - Cheney's lying! - Cheney's lying! 1064 00:54:16,035 --> 00:54:18,569 - He's lying! John! - He's lying! 1065 00:54:18,571 --> 00:54:20,671 John! 1066 00:54:20,673 --> 00:54:21,906 Where the hell is he? 1067 00:54:21,908 --> 00:54:23,575 Here we go. Here we go. 1068 00:54:23,577 --> 00:54:25,510 - He's lying. - He's lying. 1069 00:54:25,512 --> 00:54:27,479 Cheney's lying. 1070 00:54:27,481 --> 00:54:28,914 Where did this come from? 1071 00:54:28,916 --> 00:54:30,582 Loose Nukes. 1072 00:54:30,584 --> 00:54:32,484 Okay. 1073 00:54:32,486 --> 00:54:34,853 Now, we know what's being talk about, we got to get inside... 1074 00:54:34,855 --> 00:54:37,857 those meetings and find out if there's a dissenting opinion. 1075 00:54:37,859 --> 00:54:39,659 I may have a guy. 1076 00:54:39,661 --> 00:54:41,092 Anybody we know? 1077 00:54:41,094 --> 00:54:42,697 The Usual Suspect. 1078 00:54:53,942 --> 00:54:55,907 You didn't want to do this in a parking garage? 1079 00:54:55,909 --> 00:54:58,543 If there was one that served Pad Thai, I would. 1080 00:54:58,545 --> 00:55:00,948 How's civilian life? 1081 00:55:00,950 --> 00:55:03,550 My retirement lasted about four hours. 1082 00:55:03,552 --> 00:55:05,251 You're with Knight Ridder? 1083 00:55:05,253 --> 00:55:07,620 I don't even have a desk yet. How the hell do you know that? 1084 00:55:07,622 --> 00:55:09,122 I have my ways. 1085 00:55:09,124 --> 00:55:10,990 You been following what we're doing over there? 1086 00:55:10,992 --> 00:55:12,225 Yes, I have. 1087 00:55:12,227 --> 00:55:13,727 And? 1088 00:55:13,729 --> 00:55:15,495 You two may be singlehandedly saving... 1089 00:55:15,497 --> 00:55:18,599 the Fourth Estate from extinction. 1090 00:55:18,601 --> 00:55:21,267 Mainstream media hasn't picked up a thing we been running. 1091 00:55:21,269 --> 00:55:22,903 Should be all the confirmation you need... 1092 00:55:22,905 --> 00:55:24,141 that you're onto something. 1093 00:55:27,109 --> 00:55:29,743 What can I do for you? 1094 00:55:29,745 --> 00:55:31,779 We need some help with the higher ups. 1095 00:55:31,781 --> 00:55:32,779 How high? 1096 00:55:32,781 --> 00:55:34,516 High as you can get us. 1097 00:55:34,518 --> 00:55:36,217 You've been around a long time, Joe. 1098 00:55:36,219 --> 00:55:38,719 I doubt there's anything there that'll surprise you. 1099 00:55:38,721 --> 00:55:40,522 I was married one time to a woman who thought... 1100 00:55:40,524 --> 00:55:42,690 New Hampshire was the capital of Massachusetts. 1101 00:55:42,692 --> 00:55:45,659 There's always something you don't see coming. 1102 00:55:45,661 --> 00:55:48,997 What do you want to know? 1103 00:55:48,999 --> 00:55:52,101 Everything the administration doesn't want us to know. 1104 00:55:52,103 --> 00:55:55,507 You and I are going to be eating a lot of Pad Thai. 1105 00:56:00,545 --> 00:56:02,544 What kind of time frame are we looking at? 1106 00:56:02,546 --> 00:56:03,945 Next month, Congress is scheduled to vote... 1107 00:56:03,947 --> 00:56:05,213 on whether or not to give the president... 1108 00:56:05,215 --> 00:56:06,916 the authorization to go to war. 1109 00:56:06,918 --> 00:56:07,983 Are the votes there? 1110 00:56:07,985 --> 00:56:09,651 The administration thinks so. 1111 00:56:09,653 --> 00:56:15,058 Mr. President, 38 years ago, I, Robert C. Byrd... 1112 00:56:15,060 --> 00:56:18,661 voted on the Tonkin Gulf Resolution. 1113 00:56:18,663 --> 00:56:22,198 The resolution that authorized the president to use military... 1114 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,199 force to repel armed attacks... 1115 00:56:24,201 --> 00:56:28,638 and to prevent further communist aggression in Southeast Asia. 1116 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,274 A joint resolution to authorize the use of United States... 1117 00:56:32,276 --> 00:56:35,779 armed forces against Iraq should be brought to a close. 1118 00:56:35,781 --> 00:56:37,981 The clerk will call the roll. 1119 00:56:37,983 --> 00:56:40,184 Mr. Biden, aye. 1120 00:56:40,186 --> 00:56:42,219 Mrs. Clinton, aye. 1121 00:56:42,221 --> 00:56:44,688 It was this resolution that provided the basis... 1122 00:56:44,690 --> 00:56:48,592 for American involvement in the war in Vietnam. 1123 00:56:48,594 --> 00:56:50,927 Mr. Kerry, aye. 1124 00:56:50,929 --> 00:56:53,097 Mr. Lieberman, aye. 1125 00:56:53,099 --> 00:56:55,066 Mr. Lott, aye. 1126 00:56:55,068 --> 00:56:57,001 It was this resolution... 1127 00:56:57,003 --> 00:57:02,040 that lead to the deaths of 58,000 Americans. 1128 00:57:02,042 --> 00:57:04,375 Mr. McCain, aye. 1129 00:57:04,377 --> 00:57:06,611 Mr. McConnell, aye. 1130 00:57:06,613 --> 00:57:11,750 After all that carnage, we began to learn that in voting... 1131 00:57:11,752 --> 00:57:13,819 for the Tonkin Gulf resolution... 1132 00:57:13,821 --> 00:57:16,955 we were basing our votes on bad information. 1133 00:57:16,957 --> 00:57:19,223 And history is repeating itself. 1134 00:57:19,225 --> 00:57:21,359 Mr. Santorum, aye. 1135 00:57:21,361 --> 00:57:24,731 I urge senators to go down on the Capital Mall... 1136 00:57:24,733 --> 00:57:27,233 and look at the Vietnam Memorial. 1137 00:57:27,235 --> 00:57:30,302 Nearly every day, you will find someone at that wall... 1138 00:57:30,304 --> 00:57:32,639 weeping for a loved one. 1139 00:57:32,641 --> 00:57:34,706 Mr. Sessions, aye. 1140 00:57:34,708 --> 00:57:37,210 I will always remember the words of Senator Wayne Morse. 1141 00:57:37,212 --> 00:57:39,679 Mr. Specter, aye. 1142 00:57:39,681 --> 00:57:41,947 He stated, "The resolution will pass and senators... 1143 00:57:41,949 --> 00:57:45,684 "who vote for it will live to regret it." 1144 00:57:45,686 --> 00:57:47,719 We got K-10, we got Dixie, we don't need another source. 1145 00:57:47,721 --> 00:57:49,323 You know we got this. 1146 00:57:49,325 --> 00:57:51,290 Look, when you're accusing the secretary of defense... 1147 00:57:51,292 --> 00:57:53,160 of running a shadow intelligence unit... 1148 00:57:53,162 --> 00:57:55,729 out of the Pentagon, it's nice to have a little insurance. 1149 00:57:55,731 --> 00:57:56,966 That's all I'm saying. 1150 00:58:01,037 --> 00:58:03,403 All right, let's share it with the rest of the class. 1151 00:58:03,405 --> 00:58:05,138 You want to tell them? 1152 00:58:05,140 --> 00:58:08,776 Earlier today, I was summoned to the Pentagon. 1153 00:58:08,778 --> 00:58:10,109 By whom? 1154 00:58:10,111 --> 00:58:13,181 Rumsfeld, Ol' Limp Dick sent a message saying... 1155 00:58:13,183 --> 00:58:14,983 "All your sources are retired generals." 1156 00:58:14,985 --> 00:58:16,918 And I said, "All due respect, sir... 1157 00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,853 "80% of my sources are active military." 1158 00:58:19,855 --> 00:58:21,690 "Some of them are working in this building... 1159 00:58:21,692 --> 00:58:23,891 "and some of them are actually working on your staff." 1160 00:58:23,893 --> 00:58:26,860 "And hell, one or two of them might even be in this room." 1161 00:58:26,862 --> 00:58:28,996 Did you actually have sources in the room? 1162 00:58:28,998 --> 00:58:32,136 No, but it was fun watching him sweat like whores in church. 1163 00:58:34,871 --> 00:58:36,837 How close are we to getting something we can run with 1164 00:58:36,839 --> 00:58:38,240 on the Office of Special Plans? 1165 00:58:38,242 --> 00:58:40,075 Well, we already got... 1166 00:58:40,077 --> 00:58:42,711 No, we're just gonna check with a couple more sources. 1167 00:58:42,713 --> 00:58:44,713 What's wrong with the sources you have? 1168 00:58:44,715 --> 00:58:47,149 Well, we just want to be certain. 1169 00:58:47,151 --> 00:58:50,151 You know, you sit on a story like this, the dam bursts. 1170 00:58:50,153 --> 00:58:52,056 Let's just move on this, okay, boys? 1171 00:58:55,959 --> 00:58:57,292 When are you gonna be finished? 1172 00:58:57,294 --> 00:59:01,299 Just a few more minutes, baby. 1173 00:59:03,902 --> 00:59:07,837 I can't sleep with the computer light on. 1174 00:59:07,839 --> 00:59:10,275 Actually, I'm done. 1175 00:59:14,746 --> 00:59:18,081 So, what are you working on? 1176 00:59:18,083 --> 00:59:20,884 Rumsfeld has a secret Intel group that's going... 1177 00:59:20,886 --> 00:59:25,892 around the CIA to manufacture a case for war. 1178 00:59:30,296 --> 00:59:32,497 What the fuck, Jonathan? 1179 00:59:32,499 --> 00:59:34,164 What? 1180 00:59:34,166 --> 00:59:36,135 Have you been talking about this on the phone? 1181 00:59:38,338 --> 00:59:39,836 Yeah, of course. 1182 00:59:39,838 --> 00:59:41,708 So, what? 1183 00:59:44,244 --> 00:59:48,245 - They will hear you. - Vlatka. 1184 00:59:48,247 --> 00:59:50,882 You're writing about infighting between spy agencies. 1185 00:59:50,884 --> 00:59:51,984 So? 1186 00:59:51,986 --> 00:59:54,386 They're spy agencies, Jonathan. 1187 00:59:54,388 --> 00:59:57,022 They listen to your calls, they read your emails. 1188 00:59:57,024 --> 00:59:59,024 They probably bugged this house. 1189 00:59:59,026 --> 01:00:01,025 You're being paranoid. 1190 01:00:01,027 --> 01:00:02,393 You're being naive. 1191 01:00:02,395 --> 01:00:05,797 This isn't Yugoslavia, this is America. 1192 01:00:05,799 --> 01:00:08,065 America has changed. 1193 01:00:08,067 --> 01:00:09,433 War is big business for them. 1194 01:00:09,435 --> 01:00:12,103 You get in their way, they're gonna kill you. 1195 01:00:12,105 --> 01:00:16,876 Honey, you are being ridiculous. All right? Come on. 1196 01:00:16,878 --> 01:00:20,113 Don't you get it? 1197 01:00:20,115 --> 01:00:22,949 You know what these people are capable of? 1198 01:00:22,951 --> 01:00:25,552 You have a family! 1199 01:00:25,554 --> 01:00:29,157 Vlatka. Vlatka! 1200 01:00:33,961 --> 01:00:38,299 Oh, somebody's struggling. What's the matter? 1201 01:00:38,301 --> 01:00:41,602 Oh, Vlatka kept me up all night. 1202 01:00:41,604 --> 01:00:43,236 All right! 1203 01:00:43,238 --> 01:00:47,107 No, not that like that. It was conspiracy theories. 1204 01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:48,475 About what? 1205 01:00:48,477 --> 01:00:52,011 Oh... she thinks the government is monitoring us. 1206 01:00:52,013 --> 01:00:55,184 I mean, it's ridiculous. 1207 01:00:57,285 --> 01:00:58,821 Check your email. 1208 01:01:10,967 --> 01:01:12,900 John, you got to see this. 1209 01:01:12,902 --> 01:01:15,103 Oh, hold on a second. 1210 01:01:15,105 --> 01:01:18,309 Arthur, I really don't want to have this conversation again. 1211 01:01:20,443 --> 01:01:23,880 He hung up. What is it? 1212 01:01:31,122 --> 01:01:32,424 What do we do? 1213 01:01:51,143 --> 01:01:53,110 - You're such a wuss. - You're a wuss. 1214 01:01:53,112 --> 01:01:55,078 You're a much bigger wuss. 1215 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:56,579 Shut up, will you stop it, you're being a child. 1216 01:01:56,581 --> 01:01:58,547 - You're being a... - Shut up! 1217 01:01:58,549 --> 01:02:01,617 Today's UN Security Council resolution... 1218 01:02:01,619 --> 01:02:05,621 can be boiled down to four words, the clock is ticking. 1219 01:02:05,623 --> 01:02:09,659 Iraq's only alternative to full compliance, President Bush... 1220 01:02:09,661 --> 01:02:12,695 made clear today, is of military confrontation. 1221 01:02:12,697 --> 01:02:15,966 The full disarmament of weapons of mass destruction... 1222 01:02:15,968 --> 01:02:17,535 by Iraq will occur. 1223 01:02:17,537 --> 01:02:23,310 The only question for the Iraqi regime is to decide how. 1224 01:02:35,155 --> 01:02:36,486 Son of a bitch. 1225 01:02:36,488 --> 01:02:38,189 They beat us. 1226 01:02:38,191 --> 01:02:40,391 But they missed the whole point of why the unit was set up. 1227 01:02:40,393 --> 01:02:41,694 It doesn't matter, they got the scoop. 1228 01:02:41,696 --> 01:02:43,395 With what? 1229 01:02:43,397 --> 01:02:45,264 There's nothing about cherry picking intelligence. 1230 01:02:45,266 --> 01:02:47,498 There's nothing about bypassing other agencies. 1231 01:02:47,500 --> 01:02:49,101 We can still run ours. 1232 01:02:49,103 --> 01:02:50,402 John, no one's gonna pay attention... 1233 01:02:50,404 --> 01:02:53,205 to a second story explaining all that. 1234 01:02:53,207 --> 01:02:54,973 We had it. 1235 01:02:54,975 --> 01:02:56,976 Goddamn it, Walcott's gonna be pissed. 1236 01:02:56,978 --> 01:02:59,180 Maybe he hadn't seen it yet. 1237 01:03:12,727 --> 01:03:15,528 How is it possible he hasn't talked to us all day? 1238 01:03:15,530 --> 01:03:18,200 He's giving us the silent treatment. 1239 01:03:21,202 --> 01:03:23,202 Oh, shit, here he comes. 1240 01:03:23,204 --> 01:03:25,373 Oh, Jesus. 1241 01:03:30,613 --> 01:03:32,616 You had the story. 1242 01:03:34,384 --> 01:03:36,386 Don't ever forget how it feels to get beat. 1243 01:03:40,790 --> 01:03:43,223 The only information Congress is getting... 1244 01:03:43,225 --> 01:03:45,426 is coming directly from the administration. 1245 01:03:45,428 --> 01:03:48,261 Iraq is a huge country about the size of France... 1246 01:03:48,263 --> 01:03:50,297 if they want to hide their weapons of mass destruction... 1247 01:03:50,299 --> 01:03:52,066 they're going to be able to do so. 1248 01:03:52,068 --> 01:03:54,436 They're not going to rethink their positions... 1249 01:03:54,438 --> 01:03:57,072 unless they are provided with independent intel. 1250 01:03:57,074 --> 01:03:59,708 No one who's supported the authorization for war... 1251 01:03:59,710 --> 01:04:03,445 in Congress, in Iraq, not the president... 1252 01:04:03,447 --> 01:04:07,416 I am sure would go to war just because he wants to go to war. 1253 01:04:07,418 --> 01:04:11,052 Rumsfeld's been trying to sell this idea that an Iraqi... 1254 01:04:11,054 --> 01:04:14,822 intelligence officer offered bin Laden safe haven in '99. 1255 01:04:14,824 --> 01:04:16,359 Yeah. 1256 01:04:16,361 --> 01:04:18,594 Well, if that offer actually had happened... 1257 01:04:18,596 --> 01:04:21,730 bin Laden would have told Saddam to go fuck himself. 1258 01:04:21,732 --> 01:04:23,732 What do you make of the statement made... 1259 01:04:23,734 --> 01:04:26,335 by the Iraqi government that Iraq has no weapons... 1260 01:04:26,337 --> 01:04:28,703 of mass destruction and is not developing? 1261 01:04:28,705 --> 01:04:30,475 They're lying. 1262 01:04:32,310 --> 01:04:33,676 Next. 1263 01:04:33,678 --> 01:04:35,277 Your daughter is lovely. 1264 01:04:35,279 --> 01:04:36,846 Well, I wish I could take credit. 1265 01:04:36,848 --> 01:04:38,547 She gets it from her mother. 1266 01:04:38,549 --> 01:04:39,748 Dad, can I get you anything? 1267 01:04:39,750 --> 01:04:41,585 - Oh, no, thanks, sweetie. - Mr. Strobel? 1268 01:04:41,587 --> 01:04:43,389 - I'm fine. - All right. 1269 01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:48,291 Just real casual. 1270 01:04:48,293 --> 01:04:49,860 Tom and I were just talking about your latest article. 1271 01:04:49,862 --> 01:04:51,394 Oh, yeah? 1272 01:04:51,396 --> 01:04:53,162 Seems like you don't trust politicians. 1273 01:04:53,164 --> 01:04:56,199 Well, that's a pretty solid rule of journalism. 1274 01:04:56,201 --> 01:04:58,302 Even when they're talking about war? 1275 01:04:58,304 --> 01:05:00,536 Especially when they're talking about war. 1276 01:05:00,538 --> 01:05:02,639 You really believe there's no WMD? 1277 01:05:02,641 --> 01:05:04,709 Our names are on the article. 1278 01:05:04,711 --> 01:05:06,711 They don't say that there's no WMD. 1279 01:05:06,713 --> 01:05:08,212 They just said that the administration... 1280 01:05:08,214 --> 01:05:09,647 hasn't offered any proof of WMD. 1281 01:05:09,649 --> 01:05:11,716 And you don't think they'll find any? 1282 01:05:11,718 --> 01:05:14,685 No, I don't. 1283 01:05:14,687 --> 01:05:15,886 You don't know that. 1284 01:05:15,888 --> 01:05:17,622 No, we don't. 1285 01:05:17,624 --> 01:05:19,823 But before we send our kids to their possible deaths... 1286 01:05:19,825 --> 01:05:21,558 don't you think the administration... 1287 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,461 has an obligation to provide proof of their rationale? 1288 01:05:23,463 --> 01:05:26,631 What if that proof comes in the form of a mushroom cloud? 1289 01:05:26,633 --> 01:05:29,802 Okay, you've been watching Fox News again? 1290 01:05:29,804 --> 01:05:32,404 Rice, Cheney, and President Bush have all said the same thing. 1291 01:05:32,406 --> 01:05:34,373 Oh, well, then it must be true. 1292 01:05:34,375 --> 01:05:36,342 You kids are too young to remember... 1293 01:05:36,344 --> 01:05:38,744 how close we came to nuclear war in '62. 1294 01:05:38,746 --> 01:05:40,612 Hell, Warren, you were born the very day... 1295 01:05:40,614 --> 01:05:43,849 President Kennedy ordered the blockade against Cuba. 1296 01:05:43,851 --> 01:05:46,684 The most powerful enemy we knew was gonna put nuclear weapons... 1297 01:05:46,686 --> 01:05:48,786 90 miles off our coast. 1298 01:05:48,788 --> 01:05:50,623 The president had to demonstrate strength. 1299 01:05:50,625 --> 01:05:54,528 And the next day, Kennedy sent Adlai Stevenson to the U.N... 1300 01:05:54,530 --> 01:05:56,631 to offer proof that the missiles existed. 1301 01:05:57,832 --> 01:05:59,665 It's not just Fox News. 1302 01:05:59,667 --> 01:06:02,935 It's the Washington Post. It's The New York Times. 1303 01:06:02,937 --> 01:06:05,872 Hell, proof is coming from every major media outlet... 1304 01:06:05,874 --> 01:06:08,778 in the country, except yours. 1305 01:06:10,345 --> 01:06:11,877 Okay. 1306 01:06:11,879 --> 01:06:17,487 Uh, I think I forgot the hamburger buns, excuse me. 1307 01:06:19,188 --> 01:06:21,824 I'm going to grab a beer. 1308 01:06:24,426 --> 01:06:26,195 Jesus, Dad. 1309 01:06:37,373 --> 01:06:38,538 Are you okay, bro? 1310 01:06:38,540 --> 01:06:40,143 Yeah. 1311 01:06:41,945 --> 01:06:45,247 Are we good reporters? 1312 01:06:45,249 --> 01:06:46,347 What? 1313 01:06:46,349 --> 01:06:49,283 I mean, are we doing anything... 1314 01:06:49,285 --> 01:06:50,952 other than practicing good journalism? 1315 01:06:50,954 --> 01:06:52,988 No, we're doing exactly what we're supposed... 1316 01:06:52,990 --> 01:06:55,524 Then, why the fuck are we the only ones... 1317 01:06:55,526 --> 01:06:57,695 running these fucking stories?! 1318 01:07:05,602 --> 01:07:07,904 He just wanted you to see all sides to him... 1319 01:07:07,906 --> 01:07:09,542 before you take it to the next level. 1320 01:07:14,846 --> 01:07:16,645 Almost three months ago, the United Nations... 1321 01:07:16,647 --> 01:07:18,815 Security Council gave Saddam Hussein... 1322 01:07:18,817 --> 01:07:22,018 his final chance to disarm. 1323 01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:23,853 Our intelligence officials estimate... 1324 01:07:23,855 --> 01:07:25,721 that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce... 1325 01:07:25,723 --> 01:07:28,625 What's the point of having U.N. weapons inspections... 1326 01:07:28,627 --> 01:07:31,262 if Bush and Cheney are just going to ignore the results? 1327 01:07:31,264 --> 01:07:34,331 Well, when you're creating your own reality... 1328 01:07:34,333 --> 01:07:36,332 it's pretty easy to ignore the facts. 1329 01:07:36,334 --> 01:07:38,434 And so what? Due diligence is too inconvenient... 1330 01:07:38,436 --> 01:07:40,938 for the mainstream media at this point? 1331 01:07:40,940 --> 01:07:42,840 When news is a profit center... 1332 01:07:42,842 --> 01:07:44,608 Access becomes currency. 1333 01:07:44,610 --> 01:07:45,745 Exactly. 1334 01:07:47,479 --> 01:07:48,711 I'm proud of you, John. 1335 01:07:48,713 --> 01:07:49,780 Why? 1336 01:07:49,782 --> 01:07:53,550 For not wavering. 1337 01:07:53,552 --> 01:07:54,919 It's got to be tough. 1338 01:07:54,921 --> 01:07:56,620 It's not that tough. 1339 01:07:56,622 --> 01:08:00,824 I know who their sources are and I know who our sources are. 1340 01:08:00,826 --> 01:08:04,462 "Iraqi Dissidents Reassured in a Talk with Bush... 1341 01:08:04,464 --> 01:08:07,665 "About the Post-Hussein Era." 1342 01:08:07,667 --> 01:08:09,000 By Judith Miller. 1343 01:08:09,002 --> 01:08:10,734 She'd quote a carnival fortune teller... 1344 01:08:10,736 --> 01:08:13,504 if he was willing to say Iraq had WMD. 1345 01:08:13,506 --> 01:08:16,308 We gotta dig into the declassified... 1346 01:08:16,310 --> 01:08:17,675 national intelligence estimate... 1347 01:08:17,677 --> 01:08:20,313 and find out if there are any gems in there. 1348 01:08:20,315 --> 01:08:21,381 Yeah, I'd love to see... 1349 01:08:21,383 --> 01:08:23,849 what they redacted from the classified version. 1350 01:08:23,851 --> 01:08:25,450 Oh, what's going on with Chalabi? 1351 01:08:25,452 --> 01:08:26,786 We're on it. 1352 01:08:26,788 --> 01:08:27,987 I'm gonna keep an eye on my old boss. 1353 01:08:27,989 --> 01:08:29,788 - I got a feeling. - Yeah... 1354 01:08:29,790 --> 01:08:32,793 Colin may be the last person standing between peace and war. 1355 01:08:34,829 --> 01:08:35,998 Yeah. 1356 01:08:43,639 --> 01:08:45,541 Goddamn it! 1357 01:08:51,045 --> 01:08:52,447 Fuck! 1358 01:08:57,853 --> 01:08:59,552 Angela, did the mayor set a date... 1359 01:08:59,554 --> 01:09:00,753 for the fundraiser yet? 1360 01:09:00,755 --> 01:09:03,723 Hey, Arthur, I was totally wrong. 1361 01:09:03,725 --> 01:09:06,625 Your head isn't literally up your ass. 1362 01:09:06,627 --> 01:09:09,429 It's always a pleasure to see you, John... 1363 01:09:09,431 --> 01:09:11,965 but would you please wait outside? 1364 01:09:11,967 --> 01:09:14,468 You know, it's bad enough you're ignoring all our work... 1365 01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:16,838 but the fact that you're running these bullshit... 1366 01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:20,407 Judy Miller pieces is unconscionable. 1367 01:09:20,409 --> 01:09:21,808 Not in here, John. Okay, please? 1368 01:09:21,810 --> 01:09:25,713 Let's take it in my office. Excuse me. 1369 01:09:25,715 --> 01:09:27,882 Jesus. 1370 01:09:27,884 --> 01:09:29,650 Look, as painful as this might seem... 1371 01:09:29,652 --> 01:09:31,452 I don't answer to you, John. 1372 01:09:31,454 --> 01:09:33,621 Yes, as evidenced by the fact that you still have a job. 1373 01:09:33,623 --> 01:09:35,724 You know what, my responsibility is to my readers. 1374 01:09:35,726 --> 01:09:37,393 They're citizens who are patriots... 1375 01:09:37,395 --> 01:09:39,060 they're citizens who support our troops. 1376 01:09:39,062 --> 01:09:41,162 And how do you do that, Arthur? 1377 01:09:41,164 --> 01:09:43,732 By going down on The New York Times? 1378 01:09:43,734 --> 01:09:45,634 I don't have time for this. 1379 01:09:45,636 --> 01:09:47,068 No, you don't have time. 1380 01:09:47,070 --> 01:09:48,636 You don't have time. 1381 01:09:48,638 --> 01:09:50,037 You know, one day, The New York Times... 1382 01:09:50,039 --> 01:09:51,874 is going to apologize to its readers. 1383 01:09:51,876 --> 01:09:55,612 And when that day comes, are you gonna write your own apology? 1384 01:09:55,614 --> 01:09:58,014 Or are you just going to run theirs? 1385 01:09:58,016 --> 01:09:59,951 Have a nice day, John. 1386 01:10:02,486 --> 01:10:04,421 It is beginning to look more and more as though... 1387 01:10:04,423 --> 01:10:06,622 war with Iraq is inevitable. 1388 01:10:06,624 --> 01:10:09,626 The Showdown with Iraq and the countdown to a speech... 1389 01:10:09,628 --> 01:10:11,827 by Secretary of State Colin Powell... 1390 01:10:11,829 --> 01:10:14,029 that could move the world closer to war. 1391 01:10:14,031 --> 01:10:16,498 There's not much left for the soldiers to do but wait... 1392 01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:19,970 for orders to attack, Ryan Chillcoat reports... 1393 01:10:19,972 --> 01:10:22,972 That's so frustrating. 1394 01:10:22,974 --> 01:10:24,878 I don't know that I could do what you do. 1395 01:10:27,013 --> 01:10:28,546 You know, I once got it in my head... 1396 01:10:28,548 --> 01:10:30,614 that I should hike the Appalachian Trail. 1397 01:10:30,616 --> 01:10:32,850 Thought that it would just be a good challenge for myself. 1398 01:10:32,852 --> 01:10:36,456 Then I look at it on a map and it's like 2200 miles. 1399 01:10:38,657 --> 01:10:40,458 I realized... 1400 01:10:40,460 --> 01:10:42,059 That it would take a lifetime? 1401 01:10:42,061 --> 01:10:43,797 Yeah. 1402 01:10:47,233 --> 01:10:48,902 Or we could walk it together. 1403 01:10:50,970 --> 01:10:55,072 I'm gonna hold you to that. 1404 01:10:55,074 --> 01:10:56,941 Worldwide resistance is mounting... 1405 01:10:56,943 --> 01:11:00,678 against America's military intervention into Iraq. 1406 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,615 From US cities to Europe and the Middle East... 1407 01:11:03,617 --> 01:11:06,685 demonstrators have taken to the streets in opposition... 1408 01:11:06,687 --> 01:11:09,891 to the United States' threat to invade Iraq. 1409 01:11:17,532 --> 01:11:19,564 Mr. Strobel, Mr. Landay, how do you do? 1410 01:11:19,566 --> 01:11:20,799 - Hello. - I'm Entifadh Qanbar. 1411 01:11:20,801 --> 01:11:22,603 - Hi. - Now, please, follow me. 1412 01:11:24,005 --> 01:11:25,604 Who's this dude? 1413 01:11:25,606 --> 01:11:30,209 Guy who used to deliver pizzas. I'm not kidding. 1414 01:11:30,211 --> 01:11:31,978 Minister Chalabi, Mr. Jonathan Landay... 1415 01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:35,715 and Warren Strobel from Knight Ridder News. 1416 01:11:35,717 --> 01:11:37,951 Gentlemen, welcome. 1417 01:11:37,953 --> 01:11:41,822 Hey. Thank you for finally agreeing to meet with us. 1418 01:11:41,824 --> 01:11:44,291 I've been very busy. 1419 01:11:44,293 --> 01:11:46,693 Talking to our competitors. 1420 01:11:46,695 --> 01:11:48,996 I speak with whomever wishes to speak with me. 1421 01:11:48,998 --> 01:11:51,297 After all, I have nothing to hide... 1422 01:11:51,299 --> 01:11:55,269 which is more than I can say for Saddam. 1423 01:11:55,271 --> 01:11:57,038 Okay, well, since you brought him up... 1424 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,739 I thought we might talk about what... 1425 01:11:58,741 --> 01:12:00,807 you know about his weapons and how he might be hiding them. 1426 01:12:00,809 --> 01:12:06,213 He has WMD and he's hiding them, that I know. 1427 01:12:06,215 --> 01:12:08,783 Right, and you know that how? 1428 01:12:08,785 --> 01:12:11,985 I know everything that's happening in my country. 1429 01:12:11,987 --> 01:12:15,256 Even though Iraq hasn't been your country for over a decade? 1430 01:12:15,258 --> 01:12:20,161 I may be an exile, but I'm still an Iraqi. 1431 01:12:20,163 --> 01:12:22,631 Well, I think the point my colleague is trying to make... 1432 01:12:22,633 --> 01:12:25,767 is how would you, an enemy of Saddam, in exile... 1433 01:12:25,769 --> 01:12:29,038 have access to such valuable information? 1434 01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,073 I maintain close relationships... 1435 01:12:31,075 --> 01:12:33,241 with dissident intelligence sources. 1436 01:12:33,243 --> 01:12:34,909 Is there a way we can verify that? 1437 01:12:34,911 --> 01:12:36,678 No. 1438 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:38,614 See, that's kind of a problem for us... 1439 01:12:38,616 --> 01:12:40,149 because we can't write a story... 1440 01:12:40,151 --> 01:12:45,922 I want what America wants, a free and democratic Iraq. 1441 01:12:45,924 --> 01:12:47,891 With you as its leader? 1442 01:12:47,893 --> 01:12:51,594 If the people of Iraq wish for me to return, yes. 1443 01:12:51,596 --> 01:12:55,598 I want the opportunity to help rebuild my country... 1444 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,101 the way Mandela did in South Africa. 1445 01:12:58,103 --> 01:13:02,638 But Mandela didn't ask the U.S. to invade his country. 1446 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,741 He wasn't fighting terrorists. 1447 01:13:05,743 --> 01:13:07,977 With all due respect, that's where the red flags... 1448 01:13:07,979 --> 01:13:09,813 start to go up for us. 1449 01:13:09,815 --> 01:13:12,316 Are you implying that I've created a false narrative... 1450 01:13:12,318 --> 01:13:14,085 for my own pursuits? 1451 01:13:14,087 --> 01:13:16,386 Is there another reason why you'd create a false narrative? 1452 01:13:16,388 --> 01:13:19,223 I don't lie! 1453 01:13:19,225 --> 01:13:22,059 Saddam Hussein has mobile chemical... 1454 01:13:22,061 --> 01:13:24,060 and biological weapons labs. 1455 01:13:24,062 --> 01:13:28,299 He has a nuclear program. He has ties to terrorists. 1456 01:13:28,301 --> 01:13:31,835 And if you don't believe me, just ask the many other... 1457 01:13:31,837 --> 01:13:33,738 defectors and hear what they say. 1458 01:13:33,740 --> 01:13:35,774 They will all tell you the same thing. 1459 01:13:35,776 --> 01:13:40,748 Don't they all get their information from you? 1460 01:13:44,183 --> 01:13:47,185 If you were wondering why it took so long for me... 1461 01:13:47,187 --> 01:13:52,957 to meet with you, it's this smug attitude. 1462 01:13:52,959 --> 01:13:56,827 You have no intention of reporting anything I've said. 1463 01:13:56,829 --> 01:13:59,297 Do you want us to just be your cheerleaders? 1464 01:13:59,299 --> 01:14:00,800 All right, I think we should go. 1465 01:14:00,802 --> 01:14:04,236 Thank you for your time. 1466 01:14:04,238 --> 01:14:08,841 Now I see why no one reads anything you write. 1467 01:14:08,843 --> 01:14:12,412 I am an advocate for the removal of a vicious dictator... 1468 01:14:12,414 --> 01:14:17,150 for a free Iraq, an Iraq that will one day be a close ally... 1469 01:14:17,152 --> 01:14:21,922 to your country, to Israel, and to all of the Western world. 1470 01:14:21,924 --> 01:14:25,258 And exactly how will this happen after Saddam Hussein is gone? 1471 01:14:25,260 --> 01:14:26,959 All right, come on, Landay. 1472 01:14:26,961 --> 01:14:28,795 No, no, no, he says the world will be better off... 1473 01:14:28,797 --> 01:14:30,297 but he doesn't say how. 1474 01:14:30,299 --> 01:14:32,799 How would the removal of Saddam Hussein... 1475 01:14:32,801 --> 01:14:35,835 not plunge Iraq into a bloody civil war? 1476 01:14:35,837 --> 01:14:37,771 Tell us something that makes sense... 1477 01:14:37,773 --> 01:14:43,009 anything that makes sense, and we'll write that story today. 1478 01:14:43,011 --> 01:14:44,277 You can't! 1479 01:14:44,279 --> 01:14:46,880 Because you have no idea what happens next. 1480 01:14:46,882 --> 01:14:48,916 - And neither does anyone else. - John. John! 1481 01:14:48,918 --> 01:14:51,853 I would rather go back and write for my high school paper... 1482 01:14:51,855 --> 01:14:53,188 than to be used by you... 1483 01:14:53,190 --> 01:14:56,256 to sell the American public your bullshit. 1484 01:14:56,258 --> 01:14:57,227 All right. 1485 01:15:01,398 --> 01:15:05,299 By the way, it's Knight Ridder. 1486 01:15:05,301 --> 01:15:07,102 Secretary of State Colin Powell will make the case... 1487 01:15:07,104 --> 01:15:10,406 against Iraq in a nationally televised address... 1488 01:15:10,408 --> 01:15:12,875 to the UN Security Council. 1489 01:15:12,877 --> 01:15:14,876 Looks like they're bringing in the closer. 1490 01:15:14,878 --> 01:15:16,345 Mr. Secretary, are you confident... 1491 01:15:16,347 --> 01:15:17,947 you will make your case, sir? 1492 01:15:17,949 --> 01:15:19,415 You'll see. 1493 01:15:19,417 --> 01:15:21,250 What the hell game have we've been playing? 1494 01:15:21,252 --> 01:15:23,388 All we did is piss into the wind. 1495 01:15:25,522 --> 01:15:28,523 We did our jobs. 1496 01:15:28,525 --> 01:15:31,926 I should never have become a reporter. 1497 01:15:31,928 --> 01:15:34,967 Damn that Woodward and Bernstein. 1498 01:15:37,436 --> 01:15:40,170 They took down a president whose biggest crime... 1499 01:15:40,172 --> 01:15:44,007 was trying to cover up some dirty political tricks. 1500 01:15:44,009 --> 01:15:46,376 This president's about to do the worst thing any president... 1501 01:15:46,378 --> 01:15:48,815 could do and he'll probably get re-elected. 1502 01:15:50,949 --> 01:15:52,884 To the democratic experiment. 1503 01:15:56,354 --> 01:15:57,988 Thank you, Mr. President. 1504 01:15:57,990 --> 01:16:00,290 My colleagues, every statement I make today... 1505 01:16:00,292 --> 01:16:05,029 is backed up by sources, solid sources. 1506 01:16:05,031 --> 01:16:08,432 The gravity of this moment is matched by the gravity... 1507 01:16:08,434 --> 01:16:11,435 of the threat that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction... 1508 01:16:11,437 --> 01:16:13,003 pose to the world. 1509 01:16:13,005 --> 01:16:16,807 It was a set up, the whole damn thing was a set up. 1510 01:16:16,809 --> 01:16:19,342 Tenet sent Powell a stack of files this high... 1511 01:16:19,344 --> 01:16:20,511 that supported the invasion. 1512 01:16:20,513 --> 01:16:22,512 Saddam Hussein is determined... 1513 01:16:22,514 --> 01:16:24,950 to get his hands on a nuclear bomb. 1514 01:16:24,952 --> 01:16:26,317 Cheney sent Scooter Libby... 1515 01:16:26,319 --> 01:16:28,986 to push three main arguments in those files. 1516 01:16:28,988 --> 01:16:30,522 One: Saddam's human rights abuses... 1517 01:16:30,524 --> 01:16:32,089 which everybody knew about. 1518 01:16:32,091 --> 01:16:33,959 Two: his links to al Qaeda, which Powell... 1519 01:16:33,961 --> 01:16:35,861 of course, threw right in the trash. 1520 01:16:35,863 --> 01:16:40,499 And the third focused on Iraq's WMD. 1521 01:16:40,501 --> 01:16:42,968 Leaving Saddam Hussein in possession of weapons... 1522 01:16:42,970 --> 01:16:45,303 of mass destruction for a few more months or years... 1523 01:16:45,305 --> 01:16:49,341 is not an option, not in a post-September 11th world. 1524 01:16:49,343 --> 01:16:53,278 Over a four-day period, Powell made every single CIA officer... 1525 01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,515 defend every so-called piece of evidence in those files. 1526 01:16:56,517 --> 01:16:58,350 He threw out 80% of them. 1527 01:16:58,352 --> 01:17:00,118 At the end of the four days... 1528 01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:02,354 Powell looked Tenet right in the eye and said... 1529 01:17:02,356 --> 01:17:07,292 "George, can we stand by every word of this?" 1530 01:17:07,294 --> 01:17:14,167 And Tenet said, "Everything in there is gold, I promise you." 1531 01:17:14,169 --> 01:17:16,403 To which Powell replied, "Well, that's good, George. 1532 01:17:16,405 --> 01:17:18,372 "I'm glad you feel that way, 'cause you're going to be... 1533 01:17:18,374 --> 01:17:21,408 "sitting right behind me when I present this to the world." 1534 01:17:21,410 --> 01:17:25,511 We must not fail in our duty and our responsibility... 1535 01:17:25,513 --> 01:17:27,480 to the citizens of the countries... 1536 01:17:27,482 --> 01:17:30,551 that are represented by this body. 1537 01:17:30,553 --> 01:17:33,386 Colin took one for the team. 1538 01:17:33,388 --> 01:17:35,422 Always the good soldier. 1539 01:17:35,424 --> 01:17:37,425 Has the Iraqi regime fully... 1540 01:17:37,427 --> 01:17:41,029 and unconditionally disarmed? 1541 01:17:41,031 --> 01:17:44,199 The only acceptable outcome is the one already defined... 1542 01:17:44,201 --> 01:17:46,967 by a unanimous vote of the Security Council. 1543 01:17:46,969 --> 01:17:50,105 Total disarmament. 1544 01:17:50,107 --> 01:17:52,306 Great Britain, Spain and the United States have introduced.. 1545 01:17:52,308 --> 01:17:55,610 a new resolution stating that Iraq has failed to meet... 1546 01:17:55,612 --> 01:18:02,485 the requirements of Resolution 1441. 1547 01:18:02,487 --> 01:18:06,422 This is a fact, it cannot be denied. 1548 01:18:06,424 --> 01:18:07,656 And what harm would it do to give... 1549 01:18:07,658 --> 01:18:09,592 Saddam a final ultimatum? 1550 01:18:09,594 --> 01:18:12,495 A two or three day deadline to disarm or face force? 1551 01:18:12,497 --> 01:18:15,097 September the 11th changed the strategic thinking... 1552 01:18:15,099 --> 01:18:17,333 at least as far as I was concerned... 1553 01:18:17,335 --> 01:18:19,968 for how to protect our country. 1554 01:18:19,970 --> 01:18:25,142 My job is to protect the American people. 1555 01:18:25,144 --> 01:18:28,144 Used to be that we could think that you could contain... 1556 01:18:28,146 --> 01:18:30,013 a person like Saddam Hussein... 1557 01:18:30,015 --> 01:18:32,715 that oceans would protect us from his type of terror. 1558 01:18:34,619 --> 01:18:36,620 September the 11th should say to the American people... 1559 01:18:36,622 --> 01:18:38,522 Hello? 1560 01:18:38,524 --> 01:18:40,456 You need to pack your bags. 1561 01:18:40,458 --> 01:18:43,693 Right. 1562 01:18:43,695 --> 01:18:46,196 In the hands of a terrorist organization... 1563 01:18:46,198 --> 01:18:49,533 could be deployed here at home. 1564 01:18:49,535 --> 01:18:53,537 King, John King. This is a scripted... 1565 01:18:53,539 --> 01:18:55,372 Thank you, Mr. President. 1566 01:18:55,374 --> 01:18:57,708 Sir, how would you answer your critics who say that they... 1567 01:18:57,710 --> 01:18:59,443 They think this is somehow personal? 1568 01:18:59,445 --> 01:19:01,479 As Senator Kennedy put it tonight... 1569 01:19:01,481 --> 01:19:03,982 he said your fixation with Saddam Hussein... 1570 01:19:03,984 --> 01:19:06,184 is making the world a more dangerous place. 1571 01:19:06,186 --> 01:19:08,219 And as you prepare the American people for the possibility... 1572 01:19:08,221 --> 01:19:10,421 of military conflict, could you share with us... 1573 01:19:10,423 --> 01:19:12,557 any of the scenarios your advisors have shared... 1574 01:19:12,559 --> 01:19:16,328 with you about worst-case scenarios? 1575 01:19:16,330 --> 01:19:22,570 You make sure the... this country knows what's going on out there. 1576 01:19:23,704 --> 01:19:26,137 - Yeah? - I will. 1577 01:19:26,139 --> 01:19:30,441 I swore to protect and defend the Constitution. 1578 01:19:30,443 --> 01:19:32,477 He has weapons of mass destruction... 1579 01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:35,581 and he has used weapons of mass destruction. 1580 01:19:35,583 --> 01:19:37,283 He has trained and financed... 1581 01:19:37,285 --> 01:19:39,753 al Qaeda-type organizations before. 1582 01:19:39,755 --> 01:19:43,556 I take the threat seriously, and I'll deal with the threat. 1583 01:19:43,558 --> 01:19:46,426 I hope it can be done peacefully. 1584 01:19:46,428 --> 01:19:49,529 They hate what we stand for. 1585 01:19:49,531 --> 01:19:51,334 We love freedom, and we're not changing. 1586 01:19:53,234 --> 01:19:55,200 Mr. President, millions of Americans can... 1587 01:19:55,202 --> 01:19:58,204 recall a time when leaders from both parties set this country.. 1588 01:19:58,206 --> 01:20:00,440 on a mission of regime change in Vietnam. 1589 01:20:00,442 --> 01:20:03,076 50,000 Americans died. 1590 01:20:03,078 --> 01:20:06,046 The regime is still there in Hanoi and it hasn't harmed... 1591 01:20:06,048 --> 01:20:07,714 or threatened a single American in 30 years... 1592 01:20:07,716 --> 01:20:09,517 since the war ended. 1593 01:20:09,519 --> 01:20:12,285 What can you say tonight, sir, to the sons and daughters... 1594 01:20:12,287 --> 01:20:15,755 of the Americans who served in Vietnam to assure them that... 1595 01:20:15,757 --> 01:20:19,526 you will not lead this country down a similar path in Iraq? 1596 01:20:19,528 --> 01:20:22,495 That's a great question. 1597 01:20:22,497 --> 01:20:25,300 No doubt, there's risks with any military operation. 1598 01:20:25,302 --> 01:20:27,135 I know that. 1599 01:20:27,137 --> 01:20:29,571 It's a good thing he can draw on all that experience he got... 1600 01:20:29,573 --> 01:20:31,773 while not serving in the National Guard. 1601 01:20:31,775 --> 01:20:35,143 But it's very clear what we intend to do. 1602 01:20:35,145 --> 01:20:37,248 And our mission won't change. 1603 01:20:39,783 --> 01:20:44,452 It could last, you know, six days, six weeks... 1604 01:20:44,454 --> 01:20:48,223 I doubt six months. 1605 01:20:48,225 --> 01:20:49,759 There's a lot of money to pay for this... 1606 01:20:49,761 --> 01:20:51,726 that doesn't have to be U.S. taxpayer money. 1607 01:20:51,728 --> 01:20:54,262 We're dealing with a country that can really finance... 1608 01:20:54,264 --> 01:20:57,132 its own reconstruction, and relatively soon. 1609 01:20:57,134 --> 01:20:59,702 There will always be some uncertainty... 1610 01:20:59,704 --> 01:21:02,438 about how quickly he can acquire nuclear weapons... 1611 01:21:02,440 --> 01:21:05,373 but we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud. 1612 01:21:05,375 --> 01:21:07,275 Do you think the America people... 1613 01:21:07,277 --> 01:21:10,746 are prepared for a long, costly, and bloody battle... 1614 01:21:10,748 --> 01:21:13,216 with significant American casualties? 1615 01:21:13,218 --> 01:21:15,284 I don't think it's likely to unfold that way, Tim... 1616 01:21:15,286 --> 01:21:17,387 because I really do believe we will be greeted as liberators. 1617 01:21:17,389 --> 01:21:20,324 Six weeks after the war had begun, the President... 1618 01:21:20,326 --> 01:21:22,592 is set to deliver a very carefully worded speech... 1619 01:21:22,594 --> 01:21:25,195 on a carrier in the Pacific. 1620 01:21:25,197 --> 01:21:28,731 My fellow Americans, major combat operations... 1621 01:21:28,733 --> 01:21:30,667 in Iraq have ended. 1622 01:21:30,669 --> 01:21:33,770 In the battle of Iraq, the United States... 1623 01:21:33,772 --> 01:21:36,609 and our allies have prevailed. 1624 01:22:18,685 --> 01:22:20,688 I want to go down there. 1625 01:22:38,606 --> 01:22:41,610 They were the first to die. 1626 01:22:46,347 --> 01:22:48,484 Were you there? 1627 01:22:51,821 --> 01:22:53,223 Thank you. 1628 01:22:58,660 --> 01:23:00,396 Thank you, son. 1629 01:24:05,897 --> 01:24:07,697 Jonathan, how did it feel, therefore... 1630 01:24:07,699 --> 01:24:11,468 to be the lone holdouts in this pursuit of truth and fact? 1631 01:24:11,470 --> 01:24:13,836 It was very lonely and what made it actually one... 1632 01:24:13,838 --> 01:24:15,406 of the ironies is... 1633 01:24:15,408 --> 01:24:17,073 that every time we would write something... 1634 01:24:17,075 --> 01:24:20,443 the White House would say nothing, because we realized... 1635 01:24:20,445 --> 01:24:22,679 after a while that that would have been the best... 1636 01:24:22,681 --> 01:24:25,648 advertising for our stories we could have possibly asked for. 1637 01:24:25,650 --> 01:24:26,750 There's a problem with journalism... 1638 01:24:26,752 --> 01:24:28,552 in Washington, which is access. 1639 01:24:28,554 --> 01:24:30,421 And The New York Times and others had access to the top... 1640 01:24:30,423 --> 01:24:31,855 officials who were spinning this line. 1641 01:24:31,857 --> 01:24:33,490 We talked to those people, as well... 1642 01:24:33,492 --> 01:24:34,759 but most of our reporting, Christiane... 1643 01:24:34,761 --> 01:24:36,761 was with intelligence, military... 1644 01:24:36,763 --> 01:24:37,929 and diplomatic mid-level... 1645 01:24:37,931 --> 01:24:39,930 - Lower level? - Lower level. 1646 01:24:39,932 --> 01:24:41,899 The types journalists don't normally talk to or go after. 1647 01:24:41,901 --> 01:24:43,902 Can I just give a little credit, also, to the man... 1648 01:24:43,904 --> 01:24:45,837 who was our boss at the time, John Walcott. 1649 01:24:45,839 --> 01:24:48,006 Higher levels of civilization... 1650 01:24:48,008 --> 01:24:50,574 must depend even more heavily... 1651 01:24:50,576 --> 01:24:54,046 on a conscientious respect for the importance of honesty... 1652 01:24:54,048 --> 01:24:57,949 and clarity in reporting the facts and out of stubborn... 1653 01:24:57,951 --> 01:25:03,588 concern for accuracy in determining what the facts are. 1654 01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:08,360 We need to find some way to cover the world so that... 1655 01:25:08,362 --> 01:25:10,663 we know what's happening out there... 1656 01:25:10,665 --> 01:25:12,431 that we know the truth about it... 1657 01:25:12,433 --> 01:25:17,003 so we can avoid mistakes... 1658 01:25:17,005 --> 01:25:20,005 mistakes like Iraq. 1659 01:25:20,007 --> 01:25:22,142 The intelligence was what it was. 1660 01:25:22,144 --> 01:25:24,009 You know, people like me couldn't make it up. 1661 01:25:24,011 --> 01:25:25,712 The intelligence wasn't what it was... 1662 01:25:25,714 --> 01:25:27,681 and not everybody got it wrong. 1663 01:25:27,683 --> 01:25:30,552 Almost everybody did, except for Knight Ridder. 133217