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The first time
I ran away from home, I was 15.
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As soon as I moved to New York,
I was working at a coffee shop.
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When I decided to transition,
I was fired.
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And that is how I found out
about The Stroll.
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I was doing sex work there.
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There were
no other opportunities
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for trans women at the time.
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I spent almost ten years
of my life out there.
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It was fun at first. I was like,
"Oh, I'm making more money
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than I'm making in my job."
Please.
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Then I started doing
the weekend ho thing,
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and then it just became, like...
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...an everyday thing.
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It's been good for me in a way,
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you know what I'm saying?
Because I've been able to eat.
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I've been able to live.
I've been able to survive.
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Some filmmakers were doing
a documentary,
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so I had cameras following me,
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and these videos,
majority of the time
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I was on cocaine.
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And I think in that clip
right there, I was explaining
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how exhausted I was
of the every day
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just living to do this.
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When I was approached to be
a subject of a documentary,
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I knew that that could be
a segue way into filmmaking.
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But what I discovered
is that didn't have control
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over my own story.
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And so it really motivated me
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to start my journey
as a director.
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I was determined to make a film
about The Stroll.
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I wanted to know the history
of how long trans women
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had been coming into the area,
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and for how long sex work
has been a part of our story.
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We were pushed out
of the neighborhood years ago
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and now you don't see us
here anymore.
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My mission was to tell
this story before we're gone.
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I felt that I could get it right
if I was the one to tell it.
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Egyptt interview,
A camera. Take one.
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Welcome, Egyptt.
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Um, I'm so excited to speak
to you today about our history.
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For somebody who has so much
lived experience
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that the little time
that I was out there,
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you know, I can't even
encompass half of the stuff
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that you've been through
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and the history that you're
gonna share with us.
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I'm so honored to have you
sitting here with us right now.
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Well, I feel so blessed
to be here to tell my story,
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because a lot of times
when they do stories like this,
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they cut out the good parts
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on the true meaning
of what we had to go through.
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Some of it is traumatic.
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Um, some of it was happy,
some of it was sad,
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but overall it was an experience
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and history
that needs to be told.
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Izzi interview,
A cam. Take one.
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I want you to be comfortable.
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- Right.
- Your regular self.
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It's just me and you having
our everyday conversation,
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- you're telling me stories.
- Okay.
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I consider myself
to be of transgender experience
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because I spend half of my life
as a transgender woman
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and half of my life
as a non-binary boy.
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For me,
life as a young trans person
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was very difficult.
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It was a whole different
kind of learning process
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for me and everybody around me.
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Coming from a prominent
Black family, middle class,
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um, my dad was a mason,
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had a lot of rules
and regulations
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around masculinity.
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I was the child that didn't
want to play football,
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didn't want to mud roll,
didn't want to do any of that.
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I wanted to jump rope,
cut up the curtains
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and turn them
into evening gowns.
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That was me. I was the child
that got caught
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in high heels all the time.
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I started at an early age.
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Growing up, for me,
being in a household,
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there was specific gender roles.
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The women cooked,
the men worked.
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The kitchen was, like,
specific for the women,
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and, um, for me,
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my mom would let me in there
with all my sisters.
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I was the only male born
one that was allowed there.
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Even though my grandmother
was affirming,
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my other siblings weren't.
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My aunts and uncles,
they didn't understand.
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My community in the neighborhood
that I grew up in,
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was very harmful.
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We're siblings.
Biological sisters.
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One hundred percent.
I'm the oldest.
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And a lot of people
don't believe us,
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but we are literally siblings.
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Don't breathe.
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Being Pentecostal, my uncle
was the pastor of our church.
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There was a lot of pressure
in being the stereotypical,
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cisgender heterosexual male
for them.
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Our family
did not give us the tools
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necessary for us
to grow healthily.
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My mother always told me,
never let anyone tell
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you can't do something.
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And when they told me
that I had to leave
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because of all of this,
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I said, "You always told me,
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'never let no one tell
you can't do something.'"
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I ran away.
I ran away to save my life.
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I ran away so I could breathe.
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I ran away to get the hell away
from those people.
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I ran away for peace of mind,
for safety.
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Yes,
I had to sleep on the train.
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Yes, I was homeless.
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I'd rather the A train
than that house
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with all that pomp
and circumstance
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and all of the "religion."
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I was safer in the street
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than I was ever
in that household.
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It was 1983.
I was on my own.
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I was transitioning
at this time.
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Back then, being a trans woman,
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unless you had your ID changed
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and Social Security card,
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you couldn't just walk
into a place and get a job.
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Some people choose sex work
because they want to.
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Some choose it
because they had no choice.
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A lot of us back then
did not have a choice
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because jobs
were not accessible to us.
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At that time,
people were not hiring
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people that looked like me.
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So girls did
what they had to do,
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and that was to go
to the Ho Stroll.
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I would say every borough
had a stroll
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where the girls would work.
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The Stroll
in the Meatpacking District
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was nothing
but transwomen down there.
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It was a place where
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the young gays, the older gays,
cross-dressers,
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trans women, drag queens,
they can go and make money.
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So the tricks knew
what they was getting
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because
that was the only people
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that hustled down
in the village.
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Every queer young person knew
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that Christopher Street
in the Village was the gay mecca
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of New York City.
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- Hey, girl!
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And the further west you went,
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the more empty it became.
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There you could see queer people
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having fun
and being sexually free.
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By the water, there were
these dilapidated piers
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where you would see gay men
having sex.
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And in the center of it all
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was this ten-by-12-block radius
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called the Meatpacking District.
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We called 14th Street
The Stroll,
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and that was our turf.
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The Meatpacking District
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was not a neighborhood
people came to.
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You never walked
into this neighborhood.
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There was a very defined
dividing line at Eighth Avenue.
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I am a long-time resident
of the Meatpacking District.
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I have a gallery
in the Triangle Building
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and everybody
knows this building
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'cause it's in the middle
of the street.
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This space
was in The Village Voice.
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Eighteen hundred square feet
with a wood-burning fireplace.
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I called somebody who I knew
lived in the building,
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and I said, you know,
"What is it like down there?
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You know, it looks really grimy.
It looks really dangerous.
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Everybody says it's dangerous."
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And she said,
"It's not dangerous at all.
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It's wonderful.
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It stinks because
it is the Meatpacking District
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and there's blood and inedibles
and meat all around.
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But besides that,
it's a great neighborhood."
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People wouldn't even
walk through it.
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People walked through
the meat market back then,
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they-- they held their nose.
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I mean, you had to be one of us
to get used to the odors.
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Without a doubt,
it was its own little city.
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And every building
had a meat company in it.
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Back then you would
have to be careful,
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when you were
walking down the street,
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you couldn't walk too close
to a truck
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because the meat
would come flying off.
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That's how fast
the trucks were unloaded.
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Just the amount of meat
that was cut here.
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Back then, to me,
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it was just
the most amazing place.
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Well, the first time I came here
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was when I was driving a taxi.
I was born up in the Bronx,
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so I had all these questions
about my sexuality
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that I was trying
to come to terms with,
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and I discovered
The Meatpacking District.
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You have all these fetish bars,
fetish clubs,
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underground events,
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brick factories,
and falling apart buildings
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and empty lots.
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The life, the light,
the shadows.
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It was such a film noir
kind of atmosphere,
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and that's what I wanted
to capture with my camera.
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There were prosties here
almost 24/7.
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Uh, they would conduct
their business in parked cars
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right on the street,
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and the prosties would often
hang out under the elevated
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West Side Highway,
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and, y'know,
wait for passing johns.
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The S&M bars, the hookers,
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the meatpackers.
That's what was down here.
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When I first went out there,
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it felt like we were going
through a secret passage.
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I just saw
all these beautiful women,
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and I was like, "Oh, my God,
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what is all these girls
doing out here?
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They so beautiful."
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I remember one particular night,
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this girl asked me to block her
while she fixed her tuck.
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I said, "Tuck,"
I said, "What is that?"
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And this girl looked nice.
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So while she was fixing
her tuck,
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I turned around and I looked,
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and I said, "Oh, my God,
you have a penis."
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She was like,
"I'm a trans woman."
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And I said, "This is what
all these girls out here are?"
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I said, "Oh, my God,
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I want to do this. This is me."
I said, "I... I got to do this."
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I remember, like, when I first stepped on
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to 14th Street, when we came
around that corner
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and all I seen were,
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like, it felt like hundreds
of trans women were out there.
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But I remember it was...
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I saw you, and Ceyenne,
and a bunch of other girls.
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And it was just amazing,
like, to see
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strong Black trans women.
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Yeah.
This is what started my journey
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because I wanted to be that.
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And I used to watch the girls.
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And then it was when I came
to the decision,
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I was like,
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"I'm going to...
...you know, transition." And...
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Because I had seen everybody
so confident in themselves.
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And so I was able to draw that
out of myself.
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So when I first stepped
on to that Stroll,
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it empowered me to be like,
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"If they can live
their life like this,
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then I can live my life
like this too."
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Right here, the picture
was taken back there...
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- Oh, really?
-...the reflection of the--
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-It was water.
- Okay.
249
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The coat opened out--
It was taken right there.
250
00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:03,218
Wow.
251
00:14:03,301 --> 00:14:04,469
Because there was nobody back here
252
00:14:04,511 --> 00:14:06,638
- but me and the photographer.
- Okay.
253
00:14:06,680 --> 00:14:09,557
I was gonna let you
see the goods for free, baby.
254
00:14:10,475 --> 00:14:11,976
You can't see it for free, girl.
255
00:14:12,060 --> 00:14:16,022
But I didn't have
all this va-va-la-voom then.
256
00:14:16,106 --> 00:14:19,901
But, um, I have arrived now.
257
00:14:20,652 --> 00:14:21,653
Thank you.
258
00:14:21,695 --> 00:14:23,405
I can't believe it's still here.
259
00:14:23,863 --> 00:14:24,989
I'm reminiscing.
260
00:14:25,073 --> 00:14:27,492
This was my favorite
little corner right here.
261
00:14:27,575 --> 00:14:29,327
This is where I worked at.
262
00:14:29,369 --> 00:14:32,831
I didn't allow no one
in that corner.
263
00:14:32,914 --> 00:14:36,835
- Oh, my God. I'm right here.
-Oh, she loves the trucks.
264
00:14:36,876 --> 00:14:39,087
I used to-- We used to take them
back here, look,
265
00:14:39,170 --> 00:14:42,882
because sometimes the people
would forget to lock the trucks,
266
00:14:42,966 --> 00:14:45,343
because there was nothing
in the back of the trucks
267
00:14:45,385 --> 00:14:47,262
but funky meat
that ain't there no more,
268
00:14:47,345 --> 00:14:51,307
so we would take the clients
right back here.
269
00:14:52,517 --> 00:14:54,227
Don't get stuck
back there, honey.
270
00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:55,979
Oh, no, baby.
271
00:14:56,021 --> 00:15:00,316
Big Mama's in charge now,
she gets stuck nowhere, darling.
272
00:15:00,358 --> 00:15:03,445
-Open the door.
-Yeah. I'm not touching it now.
273
00:15:03,528 --> 00:15:05,947
But, you know, back then,
we would open up the door
274
00:15:05,989 --> 00:15:08,700
and take a client back,
that was like the hotel room.
275
00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:12,871
You know, the guy's back there.
And do what Mother does best.
276
00:15:16,833 --> 00:15:18,376
The Stroll mothers.
277
00:15:18,460 --> 00:15:20,879
They was the ones who took us
under their wing.
278
00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,715
These girls showed me the ropes.
279
00:15:23,757 --> 00:15:27,635
These girls showed me
what streets to stay safe on,
280
00:15:27,719 --> 00:15:28,845
what not to do,
281
00:15:28,887 --> 00:15:31,348
so that the minute
I got off on 14th Street
282
00:15:31,389 --> 00:15:33,975
on the PATH train
and I started walking,
283
00:15:34,059 --> 00:15:36,728
and you could hear
the clickety-clack of the heels.
284
00:15:37,937 --> 00:15:39,981
I knew that was Ceyenne,
285
00:15:40,065 --> 00:15:41,941
I knew Nicole
was around the corner.
286
00:15:42,025 --> 00:15:43,902
I knew where everybody was at.
287
00:15:43,985 --> 00:15:45,362
It was just the banter,
288
00:15:45,403 --> 00:15:48,281
the allure of just having
that, "How's tricks, girl?"
289
00:15:48,365 --> 00:15:49,908
"Oh, it's late...
oh, it's late for you,
290
00:15:49,991 --> 00:15:52,327
not for me, girl.
You should go home."
291
00:15:52,410 --> 00:15:55,413
Just the cattiness of it.
292
00:15:55,497 --> 00:15:58,249
Like, these girls taught me
how to survive.
293
00:16:00,043 --> 00:16:01,378
In the middle of West Side Highway,
294
00:16:01,419 --> 00:16:03,546
that people today
call the High Line,
295
00:16:03,588 --> 00:16:05,215
was the train tracks.
296
00:16:05,256 --> 00:16:07,759
When I first went out there
with one of my girlfriends,
297
00:16:07,842 --> 00:16:09,260
I was petrified.
298
00:16:10,428 --> 00:16:12,430
I mean, she's walking up
and down the street,
299
00:16:12,472 --> 00:16:13,306
calling cars,
300
00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:15,141
and I'm like,
"What are you doing?"
301
00:16:15,225 --> 00:16:17,936
She said, "This is how
we're going to make some money."
302
00:16:19,270 --> 00:16:20,438
People are tooting their horns at me,
303
00:16:20,522 --> 00:16:22,107
and people trying to get me
in their cars
304
00:16:22,190 --> 00:16:23,233
and I kept saying no.
305
00:16:23,274 --> 00:16:24,984
Until she said,
"Girl, the only way
306
00:16:25,068 --> 00:16:28,113
you're gonna get money,
you have to get in a car.
307
00:16:28,196 --> 00:16:29,531
Go do what you gotta do.
308
00:16:29,614 --> 00:16:32,575
Don't let them make you do
anything you don't want to do."
309
00:16:32,617 --> 00:16:35,036
I've had clients
that want me to do
310
00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,456
some of the weirdest things.
311
00:16:38,540 --> 00:16:39,958
But let me tell you
about this client.
312
00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:41,042
This client was weird.
313
00:16:41,126 --> 00:16:43,086
This guy
would do pretend blowjobs
314
00:16:43,128 --> 00:16:44,921
and pretend sex and pay me
315
00:16:44,963 --> 00:16:46,297
-for prete-- Yes.
-For dollar?
316
00:16:46,381 --> 00:16:50,176
Yes, I remember. I remember now,
he was very, like, hygienic.
317
00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:52,137
He was practicing
social distancing
318
00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:54,305
before it became a trend.
319
00:16:54,389 --> 00:16:57,350
Yeah, I was--
This mortician guy, right,
320
00:16:57,434 --> 00:17:00,812
and he would date me
and I would go up to his house
321
00:17:00,895 --> 00:17:02,522
and I would sit
in his stairwell,
322
00:17:02,605 --> 00:17:05,983
it was like a 100 dollars in,
like, three minutes,
323
00:17:06,026 --> 00:17:09,779
maybe less than three minutes,
because all he did was take me,
324
00:17:09,820 --> 00:17:12,490
spin me around, and by the time
I came back this way,
325
00:17:12,531 --> 00:17:14,617
he had already nutted
on the floor and I left.
326
00:17:19,455 --> 00:17:22,416
One of my first nights out there,
327
00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:25,878
I went with this guy to a hotel,
328
00:17:25,962 --> 00:17:29,382
and I was like, "Okay, so...
329
00:17:29,466 --> 00:17:34,012
um-- I'm going to be a bottom
for you." Whatever, whatever.
330
00:17:34,054 --> 00:17:35,347
Is it okay if I explain it?
331
00:17:35,430 --> 00:17:37,349
- Girl, you're fine.
- Okay.
332
00:17:37,432 --> 00:17:39,642
Pegging, they call it pegging
today, but...
333
00:17:39,684 --> 00:17:41,269
Okay.
334
00:17:41,353 --> 00:17:44,397
In my mind, being on 14th Street
335
00:17:44,481 --> 00:17:48,193
when I was a beginner,
nobody told me
336
00:17:48,276 --> 00:17:51,488
the... the ifs and outs about,
337
00:17:51,529 --> 00:17:56,368
"Okay, you're a trans woman,
you use your tool,
or, your wand."
338
00:17:56,409 --> 00:18:02,290
I figured out
that I was very well-endowed,
339
00:18:02,374 --> 00:18:07,629
which I didn't really look
at my private parts, so...
340
00:18:07,712 --> 00:18:11,549
That played... That played
a lot in my life with...
341
00:18:11,633 --> 00:18:15,261
'cause-- because I used
to make so much money.
342
00:18:15,345 --> 00:18:18,306
And how old were you when you
first went out to The Stroll?
343
00:18:19,015 --> 00:18:22,227
Um, I think I was 15. Fifteen.
344
00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:32,112
The first time
that I've ever seen The Stroll,
345
00:18:32,195 --> 00:18:35,532
stepping back, was scary.
346
00:18:35,573 --> 00:18:37,909
I'm not gonna lie.
It gave me anxiety.
347
00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:39,160
I was having a panic attack
348
00:18:39,244 --> 00:18:41,621
because I didn't wanna
have sex with people.
349
00:18:41,705 --> 00:18:43,456
That wasn't really
what I was interested in.
350
00:18:44,249 --> 00:18:46,292
But I had no clue
351
00:18:46,376 --> 00:18:48,253
on how to get money
at 15 years old
352
00:18:48,336 --> 00:18:50,505
on the street.
So that's where I ended up.
353
00:18:55,260 --> 00:18:58,096
I cried.
I cried like a baby.
354
00:18:58,179 --> 00:19:00,640
First time I had to do
sexual acts
355
00:19:00,724 --> 00:19:03,935
with someone for money
and he told me to get out.
356
00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:06,438
The first time,
I was traumatized
357
00:19:06,479 --> 00:19:09,607
because this man wanted me
to do some sexual act
358
00:19:09,691 --> 00:19:10,900
with him for money.
359
00:19:10,942 --> 00:19:12,444
And I knew
what I was going to do.
360
00:19:12,485 --> 00:19:14,279
But it's--
when you actually do it
361
00:19:14,362 --> 00:19:17,073
the reality sets in,
"What are you doing?"
362
00:19:17,115 --> 00:19:19,909
And it was terrifying.
363
00:19:19,951 --> 00:19:20,952
Right, 'cause like,
364
00:19:21,036 --> 00:19:22,454
I'm not really
attracted to this man.
365
00:19:22,537 --> 00:19:24,289
Not at all.
366
00:19:24,330 --> 00:19:25,540
Because you got to realize,
367
00:19:25,623 --> 00:19:30,628
you have all different shapes,
colors and sizes.
368
00:19:30,712 --> 00:19:33,548
I've gotten in cars with people
with the worst thing
369
00:19:33,631 --> 00:19:35,133
I've ever seen
in my entire life.
370
00:19:35,216 --> 00:19:36,676
It was like, "Oh, my God."
371
00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:40,472
But those Benjamins
sounded great.
372
00:19:47,729 --> 00:19:50,482
I remember,
it was a warm night.
373
00:19:51,399 --> 00:19:54,152
And I was feeling myself. I was.
374
00:19:54,194 --> 00:19:57,155
This young man
pulled up in a car
375
00:19:57,197 --> 00:19:59,699
and he was mad cute.
376
00:19:59,783 --> 00:20:02,911
And I thought to myself,
"Elizabeth, you deserve
377
00:20:02,994 --> 00:20:04,329
a little bit of fun time.
378
00:20:05,246 --> 00:20:07,207
So go ahead. Have your fun."
379
00:20:11,002 --> 00:20:12,671
I remember him taking me
380
00:20:12,754 --> 00:20:15,882
to the side
of St Vincent Hospital.
381
00:20:15,965 --> 00:20:18,259
Went to go perform on him.
382
00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:19,511
And that's when I heard
383
00:20:19,552 --> 00:20:22,347
the back door
is open to the car.
384
00:20:22,430 --> 00:20:24,849
Next thing I know,
385
00:20:24,891 --> 00:20:28,228
he punched me out.
And between all three of them...
386
00:20:30,146 --> 00:20:32,607
...assaulted me and robbed me.
387
00:20:32,691 --> 00:20:34,818
I ran into St. Vincent Hospital,
388
00:20:34,859 --> 00:20:36,695
into the ER waiting area.
389
00:20:36,778 --> 00:20:40,031
I was just literally assaulted
and I was screaming for help.
390
00:20:41,366 --> 00:20:43,535
And the security guard
told me that I had to leave,
391
00:20:43,618 --> 00:20:44,786
that I couldn't be there.
392
00:20:45,954 --> 00:20:47,622
And I remember...
393
00:20:47,706 --> 00:20:50,458
basically telling him,
"You know what, fuck you,"
394
00:20:50,542 --> 00:20:52,711
picked up my strap,
one of my straps,
395
00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:55,839
and walked out
and walked to The Stroll crying.
396
00:20:58,174 --> 00:21:00,093
You know,
whether it was from the police
397
00:21:00,176 --> 00:21:01,720
who chased you and beat you up,
398
00:21:01,803 --> 00:21:03,847
and wanted to force you
to have sex,
399
00:21:03,888 --> 00:21:06,850
whether it was from the john
who didn't have enough money
400
00:21:06,891 --> 00:21:07,809
and you knew he was short,
401
00:21:07,892 --> 00:21:09,644
so you was trying to get away
from him,
402
00:21:09,728 --> 00:21:11,646
but he wanted you
to finish the job.
403
00:21:11,730 --> 00:21:13,898
A lot of the guys knew
where we populated at,
404
00:21:13,940 --> 00:21:16,401
and sometimes
that became very unsafe.
405
00:21:18,069 --> 00:21:20,363
I had a little bit of everything
in my pocketbook.
406
00:21:20,405 --> 00:21:23,408
Mace, hammer, you name it.
407
00:21:23,491 --> 00:21:24,784
I learned to defend myself
408
00:21:24,868 --> 00:21:28,413
because I was always
in close proximity of violence.
409
00:21:28,496 --> 00:21:31,416
There was a lot of times
where I came into danger.
410
00:21:31,458 --> 00:21:33,835
Then that's when I became
the Battle Bot.
411
00:21:35,211 --> 00:21:36,755
You know, you wasn't gonna
take my money.
412
00:21:36,838 --> 00:21:39,341
You wasn't gonna beat me up.
I was gonna get you
413
00:21:39,424 --> 00:21:40,717
before you got me.
414
00:21:43,011 --> 00:21:44,971
Wonder Woman
is this all-powerful woman
415
00:21:45,055 --> 00:21:47,599
who can handle anything.
416
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,852
I call 'em
my Wonder Woman powers
because I have to deal
417
00:21:50,935 --> 00:21:52,270
with crazy people,
418
00:21:52,354 --> 00:21:54,230
when I'm getting in
and out of your car.
419
00:21:54,272 --> 00:21:55,774
I don't know where you're going
to be at.
420
00:21:55,857 --> 00:21:58,693
You don't know
what their motives are.
421
00:21:58,777 --> 00:22:00,403
You don't know
what type of mood they're in.
422
00:22:00,445 --> 00:22:03,948
So you have to be able
to think that fast.
423
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:05,617
And I love
that you call it Wonder Woman,
424
00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:07,869
because I used to call it
Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
425
00:22:07,952 --> 00:22:10,372
And I'm out here slaying
all these dicks.
426
00:22:12,165 --> 00:22:16,544
If I ever got in trouble
with one person, a guy,
427
00:22:16,628 --> 00:22:19,130
every girl that was
on The Stroll was there.
428
00:22:23,301 --> 00:22:25,428
The girls stuck together
more then
429
00:22:26,137 --> 00:22:27,514
and protected each other.
430
00:22:27,597 --> 00:22:29,474
Especially
when we were in danger.
431
00:22:29,516 --> 00:22:33,144
Because if one was in trouble,
we all were in trouble.
432
00:22:33,186 --> 00:22:34,854
And that, I miss that part
433
00:22:34,938 --> 00:22:37,857
about the rallying together
to protect each other.
434
00:22:44,906 --> 00:22:47,325
- Oh, he is cute!
- Look, they ready.
435
00:22:47,367 --> 00:22:49,160
Hey, boo.
436
00:22:49,244 --> 00:22:50,829
- Uh-uh. No.
- No!
437
00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:53,748
No, we're talking about our lives.
438
00:22:53,832 --> 00:22:56,251
We're talking about our lives...
439
00:22:56,334 --> 00:22:58,628
out here before this
became this.
440
00:22:59,504 --> 00:23:00,964
-Yeah.
-Yeah.
441
00:23:02,090 --> 00:23:03,842
Oh!
442
00:23:03,925 --> 00:23:05,468
He said, "I remember that."
443
00:23:05,510 --> 00:23:08,555
I'm sure you do.
What's your name?
444
00:23:08,638 --> 00:23:10,682
- Bob.
- Bill.
445
00:23:10,765 --> 00:23:14,019
Bill? Bob Reg, Bob Regular?
446
00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:15,353
Still got it.
447
00:23:15,395 --> 00:23:17,022
Wait, you gotta get
in the mirror.
448
00:23:17,105 --> 00:23:18,606
That bitch has still got it.
449
00:23:18,690 --> 00:23:20,150
You got to tell them.
450
00:23:20,191 --> 00:23:21,651
Come on, baby. Check your face.
451
00:23:21,693 --> 00:23:24,404
What did you say?
The diva will what?
452
00:23:24,487 --> 00:23:25,864
Will succeed.
453
00:23:26,281 --> 00:23:27,323
Pump. Pump.
454
00:23:27,365 --> 00:23:29,409
The diva will succeed.
455
00:23:30,535 --> 00:23:32,037
You know this is huge.
456
00:23:32,120 --> 00:23:35,040
And you ain't probably
take this trip in a minute.
457
00:23:35,081 --> 00:23:39,377
I remember, with The Vault.
And RuPaul.
458
00:23:39,419 --> 00:23:41,588
Remember when RuPaul
used to be out here?
459
00:23:41,671 --> 00:23:44,716
And she used to film her videos
with the tricks?
460
00:23:44,758 --> 00:23:47,469
Located in
Manhattan's Lower West Side.
461
00:23:47,552 --> 00:23:49,304
The meat market is filled
462
00:23:49,387 --> 00:23:51,514
with transvestite hookers
by night.
463
00:23:52,891 --> 00:23:55,060
I ought to know because
I live right around the block.
464
00:23:55,101 --> 00:23:56,436
I asked some of the girls,
465
00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,230
boys, girls, whatever.
466
00:23:59,314 --> 00:24:00,732
If I could, you know,
take a look
467
00:24:00,774 --> 00:24:02,776
inside of their world.
Let's go see what's going on.
468
00:24:02,859 --> 00:24:05,070
Maybe I'll get lucky.
Maybe I'll make my rent money.
469
00:24:05,153 --> 00:24:06,946
Come on, you guys.
470
00:24:07,030 --> 00:24:09,074
I was looking
for footage for the doc,
471
00:24:09,157 --> 00:24:10,658
that's when I seen the clip.
472
00:24:10,742 --> 00:24:12,619
When I was researching,
I was starting
473
00:24:12,702 --> 00:24:15,413
with transgender hookers.
474
00:24:15,455 --> 00:24:17,582
And that wasn't the right word.
475
00:24:17,624 --> 00:24:21,002
The right word
was transvestite hookers.
476
00:24:22,629 --> 00:24:24,422
Do you have a boss?
Do you work for yourself?
477
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,466
Oh, yeah, for myself, of course.
478
00:24:26,549 --> 00:24:29,010
Are you ever scared
out here on the street?
479
00:24:29,094 --> 00:24:31,930
Yeah. Huh. Sometimes it's hard,
you know? Sometimes...
480
00:24:32,013 --> 00:24:34,015
Sometimes people get
really rough, though.
481
00:24:34,099 --> 00:24:37,227
And, uh, you know,
I have been in some--
my purse has been stolen
482
00:24:37,268 --> 00:24:38,436
several times, though.
483
00:24:38,478 --> 00:24:39,938
But it's very much
to be careful.
484
00:24:40,021 --> 00:24:41,731
You carry some mace
or something in your purse,
485
00:24:41,773 --> 00:24:43,483
honey, and you've got to mace
these motherfuckers
486
00:24:43,566 --> 00:24:44,651
'cause they crazy.
487
00:24:44,734 --> 00:24:46,027
Ru should have known better.
488
00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:49,155
I felt like, from her tone
that this was lighthearted
489
00:24:49,239 --> 00:24:50,615
and a joke for her.
490
00:24:50,699 --> 00:24:53,410
I've had to talk
to people or be with people
491
00:24:53,451 --> 00:24:54,661
who I didn't necessarily know
492
00:24:54,744 --> 00:24:56,287
and I had to be friendly
with them, you know?
493
00:24:56,371 --> 00:24:59,040
And that's the hooking sense.
And so what's the difference?
494
00:24:59,124 --> 00:25:01,334
I guess the difference is
I didn't have to go down
495
00:25:01,418 --> 00:25:03,003
on those people,
but if you ask me...
496
00:25:03,086 --> 00:25:06,297
...it's almost the exact same.
497
00:25:09,968 --> 00:25:14,055
I love it.
I may have to change my vocation.
498
00:25:17,851 --> 00:25:20,979
The reality of homelessness
499
00:25:21,021 --> 00:25:25,942
and transitioning
and trans life in general.
500
00:25:27,485 --> 00:25:28,820
It was r-- it was difficult.
501
00:25:31,072 --> 00:25:32,991
Because we got shunned
from society.
502
00:25:33,074 --> 00:25:37,328
We couldn't find work
without having to revert back
503
00:25:37,412 --> 00:25:39,664
to presenting as cis.
504
00:25:41,791 --> 00:25:43,918
The longer you are there,
505
00:25:44,002 --> 00:25:46,171
it becomes more
like a dead-end street.
506
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:50,842
I had to sleep
in a movie theater.
507
00:25:50,884 --> 00:25:53,345
And being like...
"I'm a trans woman,
508
00:25:53,428 --> 00:25:54,596
a homeless trans woman
509
00:25:54,679 --> 00:25:56,806
sleeping in this
movie theater, like,
510
00:25:56,848 --> 00:25:59,267
this is as close to Hollywood
I'm gonna get."
511
00:26:01,853 --> 00:26:04,939
But I refused to let the world
beat me down.
512
00:26:06,066 --> 00:26:08,777
Back then,
we just took our punches.
513
00:26:10,862 --> 00:26:12,781
We've been taking them
for decades.
514
00:26:18,495 --> 00:26:19,996
The sixth precinct is located
515
00:26:20,038 --> 00:26:23,541
in Greenwich Village,
where many homosexuals live.
516
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:26,211
It also encompasses
a parking area for trucks
517
00:26:26,252 --> 00:26:29,089
under the West Side Highway
along the Hudson River.
518
00:26:29,172 --> 00:26:31,007
The trucks are a known
gathering spot
519
00:26:31,049 --> 00:26:33,551
and solicitation area
for homosexuals
520
00:26:33,593 --> 00:26:36,429
who use the trucks
for sexual acts.
521
00:26:36,513 --> 00:26:39,307
Certain acts committed
by homosexuals,
522
00:26:39,391 --> 00:26:42,894
uh, such as dressing in drag,
hanging around the trucks,
523
00:26:42,936 --> 00:26:44,979
as we refer to it
in the sixth precinct,
524
00:26:45,063 --> 00:26:48,733
and certain-- As we term it,
unnatural acts
525
00:26:48,817 --> 00:26:50,652
or which may be committed
on the street.
526
00:26:50,735 --> 00:26:51,945
Do you think
that has really helped
527
00:26:52,028 --> 00:26:54,280
the image of the homosexual?
528
00:26:54,364 --> 00:26:57,951
I absolutely, 100 percent,
wholeheartedly think
529
00:26:58,034 --> 00:27:01,996
that the sixth precinct
of the NYPD had full,
530
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,541
utter contempt
towards the trans community.
531
00:27:04,582 --> 00:27:09,087
I had a total of 68 arrests.
532
00:27:09,129 --> 00:27:10,880
-If I'm not mistaken.
-Oh, wow.
533
00:27:10,922 --> 00:27:12,465
You know, I passed through
534
00:27:12,549 --> 00:27:14,759
a lot of experience
with the NYPD.
535
00:27:14,801 --> 00:27:17,137
Especially sixth precinct.
536
00:27:17,220 --> 00:27:19,639
Tasty Tuesdays
and Tasty Thursdays.
537
00:27:19,723 --> 00:27:20,849
It's funny that y'all
called it that
538
00:27:20,932 --> 00:27:22,267
because we called it TNT.
539
00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:25,979
You... You know, there was times
that the girls already knew
540
00:27:26,062 --> 00:27:28,773
the schedule
and it would be empty.
541
00:27:28,815 --> 00:27:31,317
So, I guess once they seemed
to have been emptied,
542
00:27:31,401 --> 00:27:35,655
the girls started getting
the hang of the lock up days.
543
00:27:35,739 --> 00:27:37,949
That's when they started
switching it around
544
00:27:37,991 --> 00:27:39,743
and lock you up on a Friday.
545
00:27:39,784 --> 00:27:41,161
You didn't want
to get locked on a Friday
546
00:27:41,244 --> 00:27:43,121
- because then that's all weekend in jail.
- Yep.
547
00:27:43,204 --> 00:27:45,415
You know, the days that you know
that you're gonna spend
548
00:27:45,457 --> 00:27:46,833
the weekend in the bullpens.
549
00:27:46,916 --> 00:27:48,668
Yeah, I've made
those mistakes a few times.
550
00:27:48,752 --> 00:27:50,795
Yeah.
551
00:27:50,837 --> 00:27:53,131
You had to stay busy
to avoid the police.
552
00:27:53,214 --> 00:27:55,008
You had to, like,
stay on the move.
553
00:27:55,091 --> 00:27:59,804
And sitting, sitting on a car,
smoking a cigarette, maybe,
554
00:27:59,888 --> 00:28:02,599
acting like I'm talking
on a phone that don't work...
555
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,477
...and that kept me alive.
556
00:28:06,936 --> 00:28:09,522
"Walking While Trans"
is a piece of legislation
557
00:28:09,606 --> 00:28:12,025
that allowed sex workers,
558
00:28:12,108 --> 00:28:13,651
especially trans sex workers,
559
00:28:13,735 --> 00:28:17,822
to be stop-and-frisk
for decades.
560
00:28:17,864 --> 00:28:21,868
I was arrested many times
just going to the store
561
00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:25,789
to get bread, for example,
562
00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:28,333
and police officers
would arrest me
563
00:28:28,375 --> 00:28:30,960
under the suspicion
that I was loitering
564
00:28:31,002 --> 00:28:33,546
for purposes of prostitution.
565
00:28:33,630 --> 00:28:36,091
You would sit in a police vehicle,
566
00:28:36,174 --> 00:28:38,009
a half a block to a block away.
567
00:28:38,093 --> 00:28:39,886
You would have
a set of binoculars.
568
00:28:39,969 --> 00:28:42,847
All right. You would focus in
on a particular area.
569
00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:44,349
While you're focusing
on that particular area,
570
00:28:44,391 --> 00:28:47,227
you write down the time
you started looking.
571
00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:50,355
As vehicles make the turn,
depending on where it is,
572
00:28:50,397 --> 00:28:53,316
either the he/she
or transvestite waves him down
573
00:28:53,358 --> 00:28:55,819
or they stop
and have a brief conversation.
574
00:28:55,860 --> 00:28:58,947
That's one, it repeats again.
That's two.
575
00:28:59,030 --> 00:29:01,241
It repeats a third time.
That's three.
576
00:29:01,324 --> 00:29:04,828
After the third time,
we will slowly drive up.
577
00:29:04,869 --> 00:29:06,496
One of us will exit
out of the radio car.
578
00:29:06,538 --> 00:29:09,708
The other will drive past.
And we'll basically close in,
579
00:29:09,749 --> 00:29:11,167
and put the individual
under arrest.
580
00:29:11,209 --> 00:29:13,586
Put the individual in the back
of the police car,
581
00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:14,796
take it to another location,
582
00:29:14,879 --> 00:29:16,256
put it in a van
as a holding area.
583
00:29:16,339 --> 00:29:17,674
Then we will go back
and repeat it,
584
00:29:17,716 --> 00:29:20,844
depending on how many girls
we're gonna take in that night.
585
00:29:20,885 --> 00:29:22,554
Last Sunday night
that just passed,
586
00:29:22,595 --> 00:29:25,348
we locked up six females...
587
00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:30,103
the rest of the night,
the whole area was clear...
588
00:29:30,186 --> 00:29:32,564
which basically lets them know
that we're not playing around
589
00:29:32,605 --> 00:29:35,233
and we'll be out again
and we'll lock them up again.
590
00:29:35,275 --> 00:29:36,901
Until they get the message
and realize
591
00:29:36,943 --> 00:29:41,281
that 14th Street
is not prostitution.
592
00:29:44,325 --> 00:29:46,411
A lot of my clients were officers,
593
00:29:46,494 --> 00:29:51,041
a lot of my client-- COs,
officers, all of it.
594
00:29:51,082 --> 00:29:54,002
One, he used to drive
a paddy wagon.
595
00:29:54,085 --> 00:29:55,754
He was a Black guy,
596
00:29:55,837 --> 00:29:57,464
and he would pick me up
597
00:29:57,547 --> 00:30:00,216
and we would go
right on the West Side Highway.
598
00:30:00,258 --> 00:30:04,804
You know, so he wasn't shy
about what he was doing.
599
00:30:07,057 --> 00:30:10,226
Two days ago,
there was an officer.
600
00:30:10,268 --> 00:30:13,355
And he turned trick with me
and he said that he was--
601
00:30:13,438 --> 00:30:14,481
he's all for it,
602
00:30:14,564 --> 00:30:17,359
and he wanted it
to be legalized.
603
00:30:17,442 --> 00:30:20,945
He was a nice officer.
Very cute, if I must say.
604
00:30:20,987 --> 00:30:23,281
How'd you pick him up,
was he on duty?
605
00:30:23,323 --> 00:30:25,867
No he was off duty,
in a gorgeous car.
606
00:30:25,950 --> 00:30:27,911
He was in a stingray.
I was gasping
607
00:30:27,952 --> 00:30:29,746
when I found out
he was an officer.
608
00:30:29,788 --> 00:30:32,415
I actually gave fellatio
609
00:30:32,457 --> 00:30:36,628
to a very beautiful, beautiful,
beautiful young Black man
610
00:30:36,670 --> 00:30:38,296
who was a cop.
611
00:30:38,380 --> 00:30:42,884
And after I was done
doing his deed, he arrested me.
612
00:30:42,967 --> 00:30:46,096
I drive around here,
but, uh, I don't go out.
613
00:30:46,137 --> 00:30:47,847
Why d'you drive around here?
614
00:30:47,931 --> 00:30:49,391
'Cause I lock 'em up
on occasion.
615
00:30:51,142 --> 00:30:55,021
They used to come around
in different type of vehicles
616
00:30:55,105 --> 00:30:57,023
to count the girls
on The Stroll.
617
00:30:57,107 --> 00:30:58,566
We didn't know who's who.
618
00:30:58,650 --> 00:31:01,986
You know, everybody's a client.
Everybody's a trick.
619
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:04,322
So we would not notice that
and then the paddy wagon
620
00:31:04,406 --> 00:31:08,118
would come like 15 or 20 minutes
later to swipe us all up.
621
00:31:10,286 --> 00:31:11,746
When the police were around,
622
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:16,334
the girls would scream, "Mag,"
like the TV show Magnum P.I.
623
00:31:16,376 --> 00:31:18,211
Once you heard "Mags,"
then you would see
624
00:31:18,294 --> 00:31:23,466
the girls dipping and dodging
under trucks and around corners.
625
00:31:23,508 --> 00:31:25,635
The police would scramble
the girls
626
00:31:25,677 --> 00:31:29,556
by driving the squad cars
on top of the sidewalk,
627
00:31:29,639 --> 00:31:33,351
blaring their sirens
to chase us out of the area.
628
00:31:33,435 --> 00:31:36,021
And after the cops went away,
the girls would reemerge
629
00:31:36,062 --> 00:31:39,190
from under the trucks
and get back to work.
630
00:31:39,232 --> 00:31:41,192
Some nights
you may get arrested,
631
00:31:41,276 --> 00:31:44,696
spend the night in jail,
get a little community service,
632
00:31:44,779 --> 00:31:46,031
and then we'd be back
on The Stroll
633
00:31:46,114 --> 00:31:48,033
the very next night.
634
00:31:48,116 --> 00:31:50,368
We can't just be
normal people that work.
635
00:31:50,452 --> 00:31:54,039
They will categorize us
as sex workers first
636
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,500
before employers,
employees, before anything.
637
00:31:57,542 --> 00:32:00,295
We will be drug addicts,
whores, and prostitutes
638
00:32:00,378 --> 00:32:01,713
before we're...
639
00:32:07,886 --> 00:32:09,721
I hope their tires bust.
640
00:32:15,393 --> 00:32:17,729
...specifically homosexuals,
uh, on the street,
641
00:32:17,812 --> 00:32:22,317
possibly fondling each other
in a-- in an unlawful manner.
642
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,488
A lot of my time
I would go to the library
643
00:32:26,571 --> 00:32:30,283
to rest and have some kind
of shelter over my head.
644
00:32:31,409 --> 00:32:34,746
And so I would find myself
researching.
645
00:32:35,955 --> 00:32:37,749
I was always into history,
646
00:32:37,791 --> 00:32:39,459
specifically trans history,
647
00:32:39,542 --> 00:32:42,921
and I would always talk
to the older girls on The Stroll
648
00:32:42,962 --> 00:32:44,673
about the '70s and '80s.
649
00:32:46,466 --> 00:32:49,427
And then one day
I met Sylvia Rivera.
650
00:32:49,511 --> 00:32:51,346
I said, "Are we happy?"
651
00:32:51,429 --> 00:32:54,099
When I first met Sylvia Rivera
652
00:32:54,182 --> 00:32:56,101
in the summer of 2000,
653
00:32:56,184 --> 00:32:59,062
I wish I had just paid
a little bit more attention.
654
00:33:01,064 --> 00:33:03,650
Sylvia was a sex worker
and activist
655
00:33:03,733 --> 00:33:05,610
who had been around for decades.
656
00:33:05,652 --> 00:33:08,613
She was one of the initiators
of the Stonewall riots.
657
00:33:10,073 --> 00:33:12,367
I think Sylvia being
out on the streets
658
00:33:12,450 --> 00:33:15,453
and having to fend for herself
at such an early age,
659
00:33:15,495 --> 00:33:18,707
she saw herself
in many of our shoes,
660
00:33:18,790 --> 00:33:20,709
in many of our situations.
661
00:33:21,751 --> 00:33:24,295
She is the icon.
662
00:33:24,379 --> 00:33:26,631
She was like the mother
of the community,
663
00:33:27,632 --> 00:33:28,633
her and Marsha.
664
00:33:52,657 --> 00:33:55,035
Marsha and Sylvia founded STAR,
665
00:33:55,118 --> 00:33:57,746
Street Transvestite
Action Revolutionaries,
666
00:33:57,829 --> 00:34:01,166
the first trans sex workers
rights organization.
667
00:34:02,667 --> 00:34:04,336
Marsha and I both grew up
668
00:34:04,419 --> 00:34:07,213
at a very early age
on Times Square.
669
00:34:07,297 --> 00:34:09,507
Marsha was seven years
my senior,
670
00:34:09,549 --> 00:34:15,513
and we had seen the suffering
from the '60s into the '70s
671
00:34:15,554 --> 00:34:17,306
of the trans youth
672
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:19,601
and the gay youth
being homeless,
673
00:34:19,684 --> 00:34:22,478
because, um,
we'd either run away
674
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,440
or either we get kicked out
from our home.
675
00:34:32,322 --> 00:34:34,032
I think the gay community wanted
676
00:34:34,074 --> 00:34:36,743
to be accepted
into mainstream society
677
00:34:36,826 --> 00:34:41,790
to show people that homosexuals
are just like everybody else.
678
00:34:41,873 --> 00:34:45,960
So when you have trans
and gender nonconforming people,
679
00:34:46,043 --> 00:34:47,962
it just makes things
a little bit
680
00:34:48,045 --> 00:34:49,755
more difficult to explain.
681
00:34:51,882 --> 00:34:54,219
Y'all all better quiet down.
682
00:34:55,719 --> 00:35:00,517
Y'all tell me go and hide
my tail between my legs.
683
00:35:00,558 --> 00:35:04,688
I will never longer
put up with this shit.
684
00:35:04,729 --> 00:35:08,817
I have been beaten,
I have had my nose broken,
685
00:35:08,900 --> 00:35:13,238
I have been thrown in jail.
I have lost my job,
686
00:35:13,321 --> 00:35:17,075
I have I lost my apartment
for gay liberation.
687
00:35:17,158 --> 00:35:19,411
And you all treat me this way?
688
00:35:19,494 --> 00:35:22,122
What the fuck's wrong
with you all?
689
00:35:22,205 --> 00:35:24,582
Think about that.
690
00:35:26,543 --> 00:35:28,336
Sylvia was like a blueprint,
691
00:35:28,420 --> 00:35:33,133
you know, seeing her up there
on that stage, getting hoarse,
692
00:35:33,216 --> 00:35:34,634
screaming at everybody.
693
00:35:34,718 --> 00:35:37,595
I knew that there was
a need for that.
694
00:35:37,637 --> 00:35:39,556
And if she could do it,
I could do it.
695
00:35:41,141 --> 00:35:43,518
Or at least try.
696
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:48,440
The mainstream
lesbian and gay community
697
00:35:48,523 --> 00:35:50,734
drove Sylvia and Marsha crazy
698
00:35:50,775 --> 00:35:53,403
because they put themselves
on the line to fight
699
00:35:53,445 --> 00:35:56,614
for gay liberation and power.
700
00:35:56,698 --> 00:36:00,326
After all they fought for,
they were pushed to the side.
701
00:36:02,287 --> 00:36:05,165
Gay America does not care.
702
00:36:05,957 --> 00:36:08,543
They don't care about their own.
703
00:36:11,796 --> 00:36:17,302
We did. We did, when we -- in 1970.
704
00:36:19,220 --> 00:36:21,556
We had to build them,
we did everything.
705
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:27,896
We fucking fed, we fed children.
We took care of children.
706
00:36:27,979 --> 00:36:31,316
Damn it! This is my history.
707
00:36:39,532 --> 00:36:42,410
This was literally
a dilapidated pier
708
00:36:43,161 --> 00:36:44,329
with holes in it.
709
00:36:45,205 --> 00:36:46,664
There was nothing here
for years.
710
00:36:46,706 --> 00:36:48,375
- Nothing.
- And then you had this
711
00:36:48,458 --> 00:36:51,670
whole, like, area
with Sylvia’s encampment.
712
00:36:51,711 --> 00:36:55,340
'Cause this-- I can't even tell
what it is anymore.
713
00:36:55,423 --> 00:36:56,591
Oh, that's right.
714
00:36:56,675 --> 00:36:58,468
But basically
where we're at, right,
715
00:36:58,510 --> 00:37:00,720
standing right here
is where the encampment was.
716
00:37:01,888 --> 00:37:03,264
It used to be
where a lot of homeless
717
00:37:03,348 --> 00:37:05,350
queer youth
used to spend the night.
718
00:37:05,392 --> 00:37:06,559
Didn't have anywhere to go.
719
00:37:06,643 --> 00:37:08,770
They knew this was
like a safe place
720
00:37:08,812 --> 00:37:10,188
to be able to congregate,
721
00:37:10,230 --> 00:37:12,232
sometimes spend the night
and sleep here.
722
00:37:12,315 --> 00:37:14,526
I actually spent
several nights in this.
723
00:37:14,567 --> 00:37:16,236
We've all spent the night
on this thing.
724
00:37:16,319 --> 00:37:17,654
-At some point.
-Yeah.
725
00:37:18,947 --> 00:37:24,536
I was on the pier
where we literally had huts.
726
00:37:24,619 --> 00:37:26,871
People started making more
and more and more.
727
00:37:26,955 --> 00:37:30,875
You had single room ones.
You had three bedroom ones.
728
00:37:30,917 --> 00:37:32,210
That's how big they got.
729
00:37:32,252 --> 00:37:34,713
They was like
your own apartment.
730
00:37:34,796 --> 00:37:37,632
This is my little segment of the house,
731
00:37:37,716 --> 00:37:40,010
because Vinny and Tom
live on that side.
732
00:37:40,051 --> 00:37:41,386
You can go in.
733
00:37:41,428 --> 00:37:45,849
You know, it's, you know,
very decor, you know,
734
00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:50,645
we have a film crew. You know,
we have it dressed up.
735
00:37:51,563 --> 00:37:53,523
Down there was Shady Brook Lane.
736
00:37:53,565 --> 00:37:57,944
We had like five or six
other houses down there
737
00:37:58,028 --> 00:38:00,196
with another open kitchen.
738
00:38:00,238 --> 00:38:03,199
We had a Thanksgiving dinner,
739
00:38:03,241 --> 00:38:07,120
and we had Christmas here
one year.
740
00:38:07,203 --> 00:38:10,415
And, um,
we had lots of fun here.
741
00:38:10,457 --> 00:38:12,584
It became a village of people
742
00:38:12,625 --> 00:38:15,837
taking care of each other.
This our neighborhood.
743
00:38:24,095 --> 00:38:26,890
Excuse me.
Don’t be going in my house!
744
00:38:28,391 --> 00:38:30,310
One day,
policemen came over.
745
00:38:30,393 --> 00:38:31,478
They gave us a certain date.
746
00:38:31,561 --> 00:38:33,730
"On that date,
we’re putting gates up."
747
00:38:33,772 --> 00:38:35,982
This is when they said,
"You guys have to leave."
748
00:38:38,651 --> 00:38:40,695
I, Rudolph William Giuliani.
749
00:38:40,779 --> 00:38:42,072
"Do solemnly swear."
750
00:38:42,113 --> 00:38:43,365
Do solemnly swear...
751
00:38:43,406 --> 00:38:45,241
"That I will support the
the constitution of the Unit..."
752
00:38:45,283 --> 00:38:46,618
With the pledge to fight crime
753
00:38:46,659 --> 00:38:49,204
and the city's nagging deficit,
Rudolph Giuliani
754
00:38:49,287 --> 00:38:52,957
took the oath of office
as the 107th mayor of New York.
755
00:38:53,041 --> 00:38:54,626
Giuliani, a former US attorney
756
00:38:54,709 --> 00:38:57,212
and the first Republican elected
in nearly two decades,
757
00:38:57,295 --> 00:38:59,964
narrowly defeated incumbent
David Dinkins on a platform
758
00:39:00,006 --> 00:39:02,717
to take back
New York's dangerous streets.
759
00:39:02,801 --> 00:39:06,137
American cities
can't survive as we know them
760
00:39:06,179 --> 00:39:08,473
if they remain so violent.
761
00:39:08,515 --> 00:39:11,935
The era of fear has had
a long enough reign.
762
00:39:11,976 --> 00:39:15,480
The period of doubt
has run its course.
763
00:39:15,522 --> 00:39:16,731
New York is in the middle
764
00:39:16,815 --> 00:39:18,983
of its worst recession
for 50 years.
765
00:39:19,025 --> 00:39:21,695
But the economy
isn't the key issue here.
766
00:39:21,778 --> 00:39:26,032
The one issue today that
obsesses New Yorkers. Crime.
767
00:39:26,991 --> 00:39:28,410
Rudy Giuliani brought in
768
00:39:28,493 --> 00:39:29,869
Broken Windows Policing.
769
00:39:29,953 --> 00:39:32,914
Broken windows theory
is basically that,
770
00:39:32,997 --> 00:39:37,252
where there is disorder there--
it will lead to violent crime.
771
00:39:37,335 --> 00:39:42,799
So, they basically elided things
like graffiti, loitering,
772
00:39:42,841 --> 00:39:47,012
boomboxes, sex work,
with rape and murder.
773
00:39:47,095 --> 00:39:48,513
So when you see graffiti,
774
00:39:48,555 --> 00:39:50,015
someone's gonna
get raped and murdered.
775
00:39:50,098 --> 00:39:52,684
This is not true.
It's been debunked,
776
00:39:52,767 --> 00:39:56,855
but in the dominant imagination
of the ruling class,
777
00:39:56,896 --> 00:40:00,275
disorder has to be destroyed
to keep us safe.
778
00:40:00,316 --> 00:40:01,860
If one window is left broken,
779
00:40:01,901 --> 00:40:04,154
the theory goes,
others are shattered.
780
00:40:04,237 --> 00:40:05,739
Pretty soon,
the entire building,
781
00:40:05,822 --> 00:40:08,908
the entire neighborhood, decays.
782
00:40:08,992 --> 00:40:11,953
Where we seen
back in the '70s and '80s,
783
00:40:12,037 --> 00:40:15,290
girls were getting arrested
sporadically,
784
00:40:15,373 --> 00:40:18,877
Giuliani literally came for us
785
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,755
in ways that we've never
seen before.
786
00:40:21,838 --> 00:40:24,716
We were taken out of a place
of freedom
787
00:40:24,758 --> 00:40:27,719
and put into a place
where we were cattle.
788
00:40:27,761 --> 00:40:30,263
Christopher Street became
his target.
789
00:40:30,347 --> 00:40:33,516
42nd Street became his target.
790
00:40:33,558 --> 00:40:35,310
These were known places
791
00:40:35,393 --> 00:40:37,771
where we could thrive
and survive.
792
00:40:39,981 --> 00:40:42,692
We want to show people
improvement in the quality
793
00:40:42,734 --> 00:40:45,111
of their life, that things
are getting better for them,
794
00:40:45,195 --> 00:40:48,573
that things are safer,
quieter, more peaceful.
795
00:40:48,615 --> 00:40:50,325
A city that they can use
and enjoy.
796
00:40:50,408 --> 00:40:51,409
Ladies and gentlemen,
797
00:40:51,451 --> 00:40:53,995
Washington Square Park
is now closed.
798
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:56,331
This is where I live
and I don't like to see this
799
00:40:56,414 --> 00:40:57,582
and I don't like
to deal with this.
800
00:40:57,665 --> 00:40:59,334
So if they can-- can crack down
on that and get rid
801
00:40:59,376 --> 00:41:00,960
of some of that stuff,
I'd be very pleased.
802
00:41:01,044 --> 00:41:03,963
The police aim
to please with their crack down.
803
00:41:04,047 --> 00:41:06,925
This week they showed off
the kind of new equipment
804
00:41:06,966 --> 00:41:09,761
which cost the department
half a million dollars.
805
00:41:09,844 --> 00:41:12,847
Night vision cameras,
miniature tape recorders,
806
00:41:12,931 --> 00:41:15,558
noise meters.
Officers in Greenwich Village
807
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,937
have written nearly
2000 summonses since March.
808
00:41:19,020 --> 00:41:22,023
People without IDs are brought
to the precinct station,
809
00:41:22,107 --> 00:41:25,610
and those who fail to show
in court are tracked down.
810
00:41:25,652 --> 00:41:26,611
If you don't respond,
811
00:41:26,695 --> 00:41:28,071
if you just throw it
in your drawer
812
00:41:28,113 --> 00:41:28,947
and forget about it,
813
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:30,615
it comes back as a warrant
for your arrest.
814
00:41:30,699 --> 00:41:32,033
You stop doing it
for a while,
815
00:41:32,117 --> 00:41:34,786
it comes back just as bad
if not worse than before.
816
00:41:34,869 --> 00:41:36,663
You have to keep after it.
817
00:41:36,746 --> 00:41:38,832
It's like a police state
in a way,
818
00:41:38,915 --> 00:41:41,793
sometimes the way
they just stop people at will.
819
00:41:41,835 --> 00:41:44,295
Racist, sexist, anti-gay!
820
00:41:44,379 --> 00:41:46,548
Giuliani, go away!
821
00:41:46,631 --> 00:41:51,011
Racist, sexist, anti-gay!
Giuliani, go away!
822
00:41:51,094 --> 00:41:55,849
Quality of life initiatives
made you ask, "Whose life?"
823
00:41:55,932 --> 00:42:00,812
Because these were initiatives
that were supposed to "clean up"
824
00:42:00,895 --> 00:42:04,065
the neighborhoods
by removing people
825
00:42:04,149 --> 00:42:07,485
who were unwanted
by the homeowners,
826
00:42:07,527 --> 00:42:09,446
the affluent taxpayers.
827
00:42:09,487 --> 00:42:11,948
They wanted to get rid
of things like...
828
00:42:11,990 --> 00:42:13,491
...squeegee people,
829
00:42:13,575 --> 00:42:17,370
panhandlers,
young people hanging out,
830
00:42:17,454 --> 00:42:21,374
pretty much anybody of color
who was not in a uniform.
831
00:42:21,458 --> 00:42:23,168
I mean,
it was profoundly racist,
832
00:42:23,251 --> 00:42:26,504
and also very anti-poor.
833
00:42:26,546 --> 00:42:28,089
You know,
during the AIDS epidemic,
834
00:42:28,173 --> 00:42:31,593
a lot of gay-owned buildings
became available
835
00:42:31,676 --> 00:42:34,137
because the owners died,
and a lot of them
836
00:42:34,179 --> 00:42:36,973
were bought by wealthy,
straight people.
837
00:42:37,015 --> 00:42:39,768
And then there were
some affluent queer people
838
00:42:39,851 --> 00:42:42,520
who hated the women
on The Stroll.
839
00:42:42,562 --> 00:42:44,397
You know, they treat them
like they're ants
840
00:42:44,481 --> 00:42:46,691
or something, right?
They just wanna
841
00:42:46,775 --> 00:42:48,193
clear off the street.
842
00:42:48,276 --> 00:42:51,613
Those are the people
who think that the queer youth
843
00:42:51,654 --> 00:42:54,532
in the West Village
should just magically disappear
844
00:42:54,616 --> 00:42:56,076
because it's their neighborhood.
845
00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,703
Never mind the fact
that the young people were there
846
00:42:58,745 --> 00:43:02,207
decades before
the wealthy people were.
847
00:43:02,248 --> 00:43:05,835
I live in-- in an apartment
on Christopher Street.
848
00:43:05,877 --> 00:43:10,048
We are in danger.
We residents are in danger.
849
00:43:10,715 --> 00:43:12,592
I have to sleep at night.
850
00:43:13,927 --> 00:43:18,890
The immediate need
is for more regular police.
851
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:20,725
Exactly.
852
00:43:20,809 --> 00:43:23,311
We have to get this under control.
853
00:43:25,313 --> 00:43:27,982
The trannies were out
on the street 24/7.
854
00:43:28,066 --> 00:43:30,944
It was really
a very bad situation.
855
00:43:31,027 --> 00:43:34,406
They would do their business
inside cars.
856
00:43:34,447 --> 00:43:37,742
Sometimes parked right in front
of a residential building.
857
00:43:37,826 --> 00:43:40,412
You'd walk out of your door
at 7:00 am,
858
00:43:40,495 --> 00:43:42,497
and there'd be
two people having sex.
859
00:43:42,580 --> 00:43:44,541
Uh, not the kind of thing
860
00:43:44,582 --> 00:43:48,211
that anybody
should really be subjected to.
861
00:43:48,253 --> 00:43:51,297
The problem is they were using
our streets as their bedrooms.
862
00:43:52,757 --> 00:43:54,801
I voted for Giuliani
because I thought
863
00:43:54,884 --> 00:43:56,761
he was the right man
for the job,
864
00:43:56,803 --> 00:44:00,015
and having him on our side
definitely was a plus.
865
00:44:04,227 --> 00:44:07,605
In the '90s, I remember
there was this old man
866
00:44:07,689 --> 00:44:09,816
that always used to walk
past me,
867
00:44:09,899 --> 00:44:11,860
and he used to be,
"Ah, look at you,
868
00:44:11,943 --> 00:44:13,445
you're so disgusting.
869
00:44:13,486 --> 00:44:17,407
You don't have on any clothes.
You're terrible."
870
00:44:17,449 --> 00:44:20,452
I remember one day this fool
871
00:44:20,493 --> 00:44:23,872
came out with, like,
20 other people,
872
00:44:23,955 --> 00:44:26,332
and they had picket signs,
873
00:44:26,416 --> 00:44:27,542
and they were like,
874
00:44:27,625 --> 00:44:29,794
"We want you
out of our neighborhoods.
875
00:44:29,878 --> 00:44:32,964
Get out of our neighborhoods,
transvestite bitch."
876
00:44:33,006 --> 00:44:34,883
"Tr--" And they cursed me out,
877
00:44:34,966 --> 00:44:36,926
but I used to put
my middle finger up
878
00:44:36,968 --> 00:44:38,803
and get in the car still,
879
00:44:38,887 --> 00:44:41,014
or go down the steps
by their house.
880
00:44:41,097 --> 00:44:42,974
I didn't give a shit.
881
00:44:43,058 --> 00:44:46,811
I didn't care, honey.
Okay.
882
00:44:50,315 --> 00:44:54,235
We started a group
called Villagers Against Crime.
883
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:57,447
We collected money
from the neighborhood,
884
00:44:57,489 --> 00:44:59,324
and we used it
to purchase three
885
00:44:59,407 --> 00:45:01,034
large professional banners.
886
00:45:01,117 --> 00:45:05,455
So, there was a banner
facing the eastbound traffic
887
00:45:05,497 --> 00:45:07,332
that was coming on 12th Street.
888
00:45:07,415 --> 00:45:11,878
Uh, another banner facing
the southbound traffic here,
889
00:45:11,961 --> 00:45:14,214
and another one also
on Washington Street
890
00:45:14,297 --> 00:45:15,423
a few blocks north.
891
00:45:15,507 --> 00:45:20,261
The banner said, in big letters,
"Johns and hookers beware.
892
00:45:20,345 --> 00:45:24,307
We note license plates,
inform your job and home."
893
00:45:24,349 --> 00:45:28,228
In those days, you could contact
the motor vehicle department,
894
00:45:28,311 --> 00:45:29,688
and for a small fee,
895
00:45:29,729 --> 00:45:32,440
get the name
and address of the owners.
896
00:45:32,524 --> 00:45:33,608
So some of my neighbors
897
00:45:33,692 --> 00:45:35,235
would note
the plates of the johns,
898
00:45:35,318 --> 00:45:37,112
and they would call them up...
899
00:45:37,195 --> 00:45:38,905
...and they would say,
"Mr. Smith,
900
00:45:38,988 --> 00:45:40,323
some of my neighbors...
901
00:45:40,365 --> 00:45:42,033
HARRY: ...have seen you
in the neighborhood,
902
00:45:42,117 --> 00:45:43,743
dealing with prostitutes.
903
00:45:43,827 --> 00:45:46,705
They've told me
that if they see you again,
904
00:45:46,788 --> 00:45:48,373
they're gonna call your wife,
905
00:45:48,456 --> 00:45:50,208
they're gonna call your employer
906
00:45:50,291 --> 00:45:52,210
and they're gonna call
your neighbor."
907
00:45:53,837 --> 00:45:55,380
People would say,
"Oh, prostitution,
908
00:45:55,422 --> 00:45:57,132
that's a victimless crime,
isn’t it?"
909
00:45:57,215 --> 00:45:58,758
And we’d point it out that no,
910
00:45:58,842 --> 00:46:01,094
the people living
in the neighborhood,
911
00:46:01,177 --> 00:46:03,138
we were actually the victims.
912
00:46:23,074 --> 00:46:24,951
Elizabeth,
you're very protective
913
00:46:25,035 --> 00:46:26,369
of your little sister.
914
00:46:26,453 --> 00:46:27,954
Did you bring her to New York?
915
00:46:28,872 --> 00:46:30,540
I did. You want me to...?
916
00:46:31,249 --> 00:46:33,293
-Yeah.
-Um...
917
00:46:33,376 --> 00:46:36,629
my sister was struggling out
in California.
918
00:46:36,713 --> 00:46:38,423
One day I called her,
919
00:46:38,506 --> 00:46:40,800
we were talking on the phone
and she expressed to me
920
00:46:40,884 --> 00:46:44,846
that she had been
on the night news.
921
00:46:44,929 --> 00:46:46,890
And, uh...
922
00:46:46,931 --> 00:46:48,516
...I asked her why
and it's because
923
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,601
she was getting ready
924
00:46:49,684 --> 00:46:51,936
to jump off
of a freeway overpass.
925
00:46:51,978 --> 00:46:55,357
And no one
in the family knew about it.
926
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,775
There was a lot of things
927
00:46:56,858 --> 00:46:58,109
that I was going through in LA,
928
00:46:58,193 --> 00:47:00,612
I was working on The Stroll
in Santa Monica Boulevard.
929
00:47:00,695 --> 00:47:04,032
Um, I had pimps
pushing up on me.
930
00:47:04,115 --> 00:47:07,077
I was getting robbed
every other night.
931
00:47:07,786 --> 00:47:10,038
I almost got killed by a john
932
00:47:10,121 --> 00:47:12,832
who dragged me
for half a block in his car
933
00:47:12,916 --> 00:47:14,376
and almost ran me over.
934
00:47:16,294 --> 00:47:19,923
So and then also just being
new to my transition,
935
00:47:19,964 --> 00:47:22,967
it was like,
I was having a hard time
936
00:47:23,009 --> 00:47:25,345
with the, um,
937
00:47:25,428 --> 00:47:27,639
turning of the backs
from the family.
938
00:47:28,723 --> 00:47:29,891
I felt...
939
00:47:30,475 --> 00:47:32,352
as her older sister,
940
00:47:32,435 --> 00:47:34,813
a sense of responsibility,
and at the same time,
941
00:47:34,854 --> 00:47:36,022
I felt like...
942
00:47:37,232 --> 00:47:39,067
I left her there by herself.
943
00:47:40,276 --> 00:47:41,403
I felt guilty.
944
00:47:42,987 --> 00:47:45,865
Me, my sister,
and my friend Desire
945
00:47:45,949 --> 00:47:47,784
were returning back
from our trip
946
00:47:47,826 --> 00:47:49,119
to go pick up my sister.
947
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:54,082
And when we arrived in New York,
at Port Authority...
948
00:47:54,165 --> 00:47:56,835
the person that I had ran into,
I remember they were like,
949
00:47:56,876 --> 00:47:58,837
"Hey, Elizabeth, how you doing?"
And just--
950
00:47:58,878 --> 00:48:00,171
The next thing
out of their mouth is,
951
00:48:00,213 --> 00:48:03,425
"Did you hear what happened?"
And I said, "What?"
952
00:48:03,508 --> 00:48:07,220
"Amanda Milan was murdered
just a couple of nights ago."
953
00:48:07,303 --> 00:48:10,140
And this person is explaining
it to me, and I could just see
954
00:48:10,181 --> 00:48:12,517
that look on my sister's face...
955
00:48:16,271 --> 00:48:18,606
What happened to Amanda Milan...
956
00:48:20,442 --> 00:48:26,031
was every trans woman's
worst nightmare.
957
00:48:26,114 --> 00:48:28,158
She was at the Port Authority.
958
00:48:28,199 --> 00:48:32,203
She had gotten into a verbal
altercation with some man,
959
00:48:32,287 --> 00:48:35,999
and he stabbed her in the neck.
960
00:48:37,250 --> 00:48:39,711
But that wasn't
the worst part of it.
961
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,089
The worst part
is that all the people
962
00:48:43,173 --> 00:48:46,468
that were standing
out there watching,
963
00:48:46,551 --> 00:48:50,722
laughing and cheering
because she was a trans woman,
964
00:48:50,805 --> 00:48:52,640
refused to help her...
965
00:48:53,975 --> 00:48:56,436
and she bled out and died.
966
00:48:57,562 --> 00:48:59,898
Two people
passing this fence on Wednesday
967
00:48:59,939 --> 00:49:01,900
thought they were looking
at a scarecrow.
968
00:49:01,941 --> 00:49:03,151
When they looked closer,
969
00:49:03,234 --> 00:49:05,945
they realized it was
the savagely beaten body
970
00:49:06,029 --> 00:49:08,239
of a young man
who had been tied to the fence
971
00:49:08,281 --> 00:49:10,408
and left to die in the cold.
972
00:49:10,492 --> 00:49:13,328
The victim, 22-year-old
Matthew Shepard,
973
00:49:13,411 --> 00:49:16,081
a student
at the University of Wyoming.
974
00:49:16,164 --> 00:49:19,167
Police say he was attacked
because he's gay.
975
00:49:19,209 --> 00:49:21,252
Sometimes,
when terrible tragedies strike us,
976
00:49:21,336 --> 00:49:23,046
they bring us
to our senses in a way
977
00:49:23,088 --> 00:49:24,631
that would never otherwise
be the case.
978
00:49:24,714 --> 00:49:28,134
And I think the horrible death
of Matthew Shepard
979
00:49:28,218 --> 00:49:30,553
helped to sober the country up.
980
00:49:30,595 --> 00:49:32,931
This is an amazing turnout.
981
00:49:45,151 --> 00:49:47,529
What happened
to Matthew Shepard, I fell for.
982
00:49:47,570 --> 00:49:48,988
I marched with the people.
983
00:49:49,072 --> 00:49:50,782
Everybody was right behind him.
984
00:49:50,865 --> 00:49:53,910
- Shame! Shame! Shame!
- Back up.
985
00:49:53,952 --> 00:49:56,287
Protect the streets!
986
00:49:57,288 --> 00:49:59,124
You had straight people,
987
00:49:59,165 --> 00:50:01,126
high school kids, all ready
988
00:50:01,167 --> 00:50:06,631
and willing to get maced
and hit by police officers.
989
00:50:06,673 --> 00:50:11,052
But Matthew Shepard
wasn't even from New York.
990
00:50:11,136 --> 00:50:13,304
They were just giving him
a vigil in New York.
991
00:50:13,972 --> 00:50:16,391
One of our sisters died.
992
00:50:16,474 --> 00:50:21,021
Amanda Milan was killed
in cold blood in the street.
993
00:50:21,104 --> 00:50:24,065
Literally in front of cameras
and cab drivers,
994
00:50:24,149 --> 00:50:26,026
witnesses, people walking.
995
00:50:26,985 --> 00:50:28,778
And when it was time
996
00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:32,323
to give her the proper send-off
997
00:50:32,407 --> 00:50:35,952
to make people aware
of this tragedy,
998
00:50:35,994 --> 00:50:37,996
no one wanted to show up.
999
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:40,331
Very few. And it was only us.
1000
00:50:40,415 --> 00:50:42,125
It was only the sisters.
1001
00:50:42,167 --> 00:50:46,087
It was only anybody
who could understand her story.
1002
00:50:46,129 --> 00:50:47,672
We were on the front line...
1003
00:50:47,756 --> 00:50:49,341
...with the gay and lesbian community,
1004
00:50:49,424 --> 00:50:52,385
marching and fighting
for equality.
1005
00:50:52,469 --> 00:50:54,346
We-- We knew we were freaks
to them
1006
00:50:54,387 --> 00:50:56,765
because the only time
we were recognized
1007
00:50:56,848 --> 00:50:59,684
was when they had events,
when they had parties,
1008
00:50:59,726 --> 00:51:04,314
when they needed to make money.
Then we were of value.
1009
00:51:04,356 --> 00:51:05,982
But you're not doing
anything to help me
1010
00:51:06,024 --> 00:51:08,860
from getting attacked.
At the end of the day,
1011
00:51:08,943 --> 00:51:10,278
that's not community.
1012
00:51:11,446 --> 00:51:14,032
With the Amanda Milan actions,
1013
00:51:14,074 --> 00:51:17,494
when we had
the event take place...
1014
00:51:18,203 --> 00:51:19,746
who showed up?
1015
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:24,709
Two-hundred people.
It's a... It's a damn shame.
1016
00:51:24,751 --> 00:51:27,712
It hurts me to see that,
1017
00:51:27,796 --> 00:51:30,840
no matter how hard we organize,
1018
00:51:30,882 --> 00:51:34,386
and we organize,
and e-mail and...
1019
00:51:34,469 --> 00:51:38,723
and only 200 people show up.
It's a disgrace.
1020
00:51:42,143 --> 00:51:43,937
It could have been me.
1021
00:51:44,020 --> 00:51:45,397
It could have been
one of my friends.
1022
00:51:45,438 --> 00:51:47,399
And so that kind of was like,
1023
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,402
we need to start advocating
for ourselves.
1024
00:51:51,528 --> 00:51:55,323
I went to that rally
and I met up at MCCNY,
1025
00:51:55,407 --> 00:51:56,491
and that was when I met
1026
00:51:56,574 --> 00:51:59,202
the legendary
Octavia St. Laurent.
1027
00:51:59,244 --> 00:52:01,830
♪ ("AMAZING GRACE"
BY MAHALIA JACKSON PLAYING) ♪
1028
00:52:03,415 --> 00:52:05,250
I remember we started walking.
1029
00:52:05,333 --> 00:52:08,294
We did this whole procession
up Eighth Avenue,
1030
00:52:08,378 --> 00:52:13,383
and Octavia singing
like she was Shug Avery.
1031
00:52:13,425 --> 00:52:16,428
Then we get
to the Port Authority,
1032
00:52:16,511 --> 00:52:19,931
and we all stood
where Amanda was killed.
1033
00:52:20,015 --> 00:52:26,938
♪ ...Grace ♪
1034
00:52:28,815 --> 00:52:29,983
♪ How sweet... ♪
1035
00:52:30,066 --> 00:52:32,193
Amanda Milan's memorial
1036
00:52:32,277 --> 00:52:34,779
was a turning point
for the trans community.
1037
00:52:35,822 --> 00:52:38,450
We began to mobilize
and have rallies
1038
00:52:38,491 --> 00:52:40,368
to make people understand
1039
00:52:40,452 --> 00:52:43,204
that our lives matter.
1040
00:52:43,288 --> 00:52:45,457
I believe in us
getting our rights,
1041
00:52:45,540 --> 00:52:48,960
or else I would not be out there
fighting for our rights.
1042
00:52:49,044 --> 00:52:53,298
Amanda Milan's death
reinvigorated Sylvia Rivera,
1043
00:52:53,381 --> 00:52:55,925
and brought her
out of retirement.
1044
00:52:55,967 --> 00:53:00,513
And that's what made me realize
that I can be an activist too.
1045
00:53:00,597 --> 00:53:03,224
And the best way for me
to be a part of the movement
1046
00:53:03,308 --> 00:53:05,852
was through storytelling.
1047
00:53:05,935 --> 00:53:09,689
To make people understand
the reality of our lives.
1048
00:53:15,278 --> 00:53:18,323
I wanted to archive the movement
1049
00:53:18,365 --> 00:53:21,534
that was building between
trans women and sex workers.
1050
00:53:22,994 --> 00:53:24,829
We were gaining visibility,
1051
00:53:24,871 --> 00:53:27,540
but we didn't know that
another tragedy would strike...
1052
00:53:29,167 --> 00:53:30,335
one that changed everything.
1053
00:53:38,802 --> 00:53:41,012
I was on The Stroll
headed to court
1054
00:53:41,096 --> 00:53:42,389
when the first plane hit.
1055
00:53:44,432 --> 00:53:46,351
The thing I remember the most,
1056
00:53:46,434 --> 00:53:48,895
it just smelled like smoke...
1057
00:53:48,978 --> 00:53:50,730
...and ash and death.
1058
00:53:53,358 --> 00:53:55,527
New York City
came to a standstill.
1059
00:53:56,152 --> 00:53:57,612
Everyone was in shock.
1060
00:53:58,780 --> 00:53:59,781
And we didn't know
1061
00:53:59,864 --> 00:54:01,866
how we were gonna
continue to survive out there.
1062
00:54:04,536 --> 00:54:07,247
There was a yellow tape
that was stretched out
1063
00:54:07,330 --> 00:54:10,375
across 14th Street
that I used to cut through.
1064
00:54:12,210 --> 00:54:14,421
The Stroll was unrecognizable,
1065
00:54:14,504 --> 00:54:17,924
there were no dates
coming in and out.
1066
00:54:18,008 --> 00:54:21,219
I still sit and wonder
how I survived that time
1067
00:54:21,302 --> 00:54:23,888
'cause it lasted
for a couple of years.
1068
00:54:25,306 --> 00:54:26,891
When they finally let down
the barriers,
1069
00:54:26,933 --> 00:54:29,894
the cars weren't coming
as frequently.
1070
00:54:29,936 --> 00:54:31,980
And when the dates
started to return,
1071
00:54:32,063 --> 00:54:35,567
the dates weren't
as generous as they used to be.
1072
00:54:35,650 --> 00:54:38,111
9/11 made it even more
difficult to survive
1073
00:54:38,194 --> 00:54:39,279
because there was nothing.
1074
00:54:39,362 --> 00:54:42,741
There was no resources
or anything.
1075
00:54:42,782 --> 00:54:44,993
And for somebody
who's homeless on the streets
1076
00:54:45,076 --> 00:54:48,663
and needed to rely on sex work,
baby, I was pissed,
1077
00:54:48,747 --> 00:54:52,375
because now our money
has been severely cut off.
1078
00:54:53,835 --> 00:54:55,295
We didn't know
how long it was gonna be
1079
00:54:55,378 --> 00:54:58,423
for The Stroll
to pick back up again.
1080
00:54:58,506 --> 00:54:59,966
That was it for a lot of years,
1081
00:55:00,050 --> 00:55:03,511
maybe two or three years,
'cause it was bad.
1082
00:55:03,595 --> 00:55:06,264
9/11 kind of shut things down,
1083
00:55:06,348 --> 00:55:08,933
and forced things
to the Internet,
1084
00:55:09,017 --> 00:55:10,935
because there was no other way.
1085
00:55:13,605 --> 00:55:15,106
Welcome.
1086
00:55:16,441 --> 00:55:18,443
At night,
I would be on The Stroll,
1087
00:55:18,526 --> 00:55:21,488
and during the day, I would be
in the Internet cafes,
1088
00:55:21,571 --> 00:55:23,114
every day.
1089
00:55:23,198 --> 00:55:25,909
And there we began...
1090
00:55:25,950 --> 00:55:28,912
...to make ads and post pictures
1091
00:55:28,953 --> 00:55:32,957
in the chat rooms
to solicit clients.
1092
00:55:32,999 --> 00:55:38,630
So, I learned about marketing,
promotion and graphic design.
1093
00:55:38,672 --> 00:55:39,964
Back then we had no choice...
1094
00:55:40,006 --> 00:55:41,716
...but to hustle.
1095
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,387
It actually kicked
in the door for safety.
1096
00:55:45,470 --> 00:55:47,931
I can tell you
from my own personal story,
1097
00:55:47,972 --> 00:55:51,810
I was protected by being able
to screen a client,
1098
00:55:51,851 --> 00:55:55,313
by being able to pick
and choose a client,
1099
00:55:55,355 --> 00:55:56,648
by being able to take
1100
00:55:56,690 --> 00:55:58,983
my street sex work
into fetish work,
1101
00:55:59,067 --> 00:56:03,947
so I would not be arrested,
and turn it into computer work.
1102
00:56:03,988 --> 00:56:06,408
And I didn't even know
how to work a computer,
1103
00:56:06,491 --> 00:56:08,034
child, but I learned it.
1104
00:56:08,118 --> 00:56:11,037
There was a lot
of learning in that process too.
1105
00:56:11,121 --> 00:56:14,082
The Stroll was kind of like,
"Okay, you can go to The Stroll,
1106
00:56:14,165 --> 00:56:16,251
but you can actually
now do this from your home
1107
00:56:16,334 --> 00:56:17,836
on the computer."
1108
00:56:17,877 --> 00:56:20,839
The time did change
and so did the girls.
1109
00:56:22,340 --> 00:56:24,676
For about a year it was as if
1110
00:56:24,759 --> 00:56:27,762
the entire city
was holding its breath,
1111
00:56:27,846 --> 00:56:32,142
and then all of a sudden
everything just geared up.
1112
00:56:33,476 --> 00:56:35,687
I'm urging people to vote
for-- for Mike Bloomberg.
1113
00:56:35,729 --> 00:56:38,606
I think Mike Bloomberg
is ideally, uh, qualified
1114
00:56:38,690 --> 00:56:41,192
to run the city at this very,
very critical time.
1115
00:56:41,234 --> 00:56:43,486
Uh, Mike's business background,
1116
00:56:43,528 --> 00:56:45,488
the fact that he is
a self-made man
1117
00:56:45,530 --> 00:56:49,409
who's, uh, had enormous success
in business,
1118
00:56:49,492 --> 00:56:51,494
qualifies him to be
mayor of New York City
1119
00:56:51,536 --> 00:56:52,871
at a time in which businesses
1120
00:56:52,954 --> 00:56:54,289
are considering
leaving the city.
1121
00:56:54,372 --> 00:56:56,583
I think Bloomberg
is gonna be good for the city
1122
00:56:56,666 --> 00:56:59,210
because Giuliani spoke
so highly of him,
1123
00:56:59,294 --> 00:57:00,920
and because Giuliani
is so popular,
1124
00:57:01,004 --> 00:57:02,922
he must know
who's gonna do a great job.
1125
00:57:03,006 --> 00:57:04,841
After September 11th,
we definitely need
1126
00:57:04,883 --> 00:57:06,801
more commerce
and more business in New York.
1127
00:57:06,885 --> 00:57:08,386
And I think, as a billionaire,
I don't know
1128
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:09,804
what he's gonna be like
as a politician,
1129
00:57:09,888 --> 00:57:13,058
but I think as a businessman,
he'll help New York.
1130
00:57:13,099 --> 00:57:15,560
We will rebuild, renew,
1131
00:57:15,643 --> 00:57:18,188
and remain the capital
of the free world.
1132
00:57:19,397 --> 00:57:21,441
What was happening
in terms of gentrification
1133
00:57:21,524 --> 00:57:24,235
had been happening
for several years,
1134
00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:25,862
but when Bloomberg
1135
00:57:25,904 --> 00:57:28,615
became the mayor,
and after 9/11,
1136
00:57:28,698 --> 00:57:33,078
it was as if gentrification
went on steroids.
1137
00:57:34,829 --> 00:57:36,039
The Meatpacking District
1138
00:57:36,081 --> 00:57:37,123
isn't what it used to be.
1139
00:57:37,207 --> 00:57:40,585
And to-- for perspective,
when Hogs opened in 1992,
1140
00:57:40,627 --> 00:57:43,213
rent was 3,000 dollars a month.
1141
00:57:43,254 --> 00:57:45,256
- Uh, and think about it.
- That's incredible.
1142
00:57:45,340 --> 00:57:46,633
I mean, 20 years ago,
1143
00:57:46,716 --> 00:57:49,010
that area was not an area
where anyone wanted to live in.
1144
00:57:49,094 --> 00:57:49,969
I wonder what part,
1145
00:57:50,053 --> 00:57:51,429
like, Sex and the City
played with that,
1146
00:57:51,513 --> 00:57:53,598
because Samantha moved
to Meatpacking District,
1147
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,766
it was still pretty sketchy
1148
00:57:54,808 --> 00:57:56,017
when she moved there,
but kind of like--
1149
00:57:56,101 --> 00:57:57,352
Yeah,
the transvestites
1150
00:57:57,435 --> 00:57:58,770
- were on the streets.
- Exactly!
1151
00:57:58,853 --> 00:58:01,147
Now it's a whole --
totally different neighborhood.
1152
00:58:04,734 --> 00:58:07,320
It was inevitable
that the decline
1153
00:58:07,404 --> 00:58:08,988
of the urban meatpackers came.
1154
00:58:09,072 --> 00:58:11,741
I'm one of the seven
remaining meatpackers
1155
00:58:11,783 --> 00:58:13,535
in the Gansevoort Market here.
1156
00:58:13,618 --> 00:58:16,329
There used to be two or 300
meatpackers down here,
1157
00:58:16,413 --> 00:58:19,708
employing at least 1500,
2000 people,
1158
00:58:19,791 --> 00:58:23,461
and now there's just seven of us
employing about 125.
1159
00:58:23,545 --> 00:58:26,381
And I will tell you,
all those old meat guys
1160
00:58:26,423 --> 00:58:28,133
that were down here
that were the big guys
1161
00:58:28,174 --> 00:58:31,344
in the industry
and sold so much meat,
1162
00:58:31,428 --> 00:58:33,972
none of them would ever believe
1163
00:58:34,014 --> 00:58:35,807
what happened
to this neighborhood.
1164
00:58:48,570 --> 00:58:51,281
IVY:
There wasn't a gradual change.
1165
00:58:51,322 --> 00:58:55,660
It was a big change economically
1166
00:58:55,744 --> 00:58:58,163
of who came
into the neighborhood.
1167
00:58:58,204 --> 00:58:59,706
It was shocking.
1168
00:59:01,666 --> 00:59:05,587
It was such an extreme jump
1169
00:59:05,670 --> 00:59:09,799
from being
this gritty film noir,
1170
00:59:09,841 --> 00:59:12,719
inviting environment
where you could
1171
00:59:12,802 --> 00:59:14,929
really do anything,
1172
00:59:15,555 --> 00:59:17,515
to all of a sudden,
1173
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:20,518
it felt like Madison Avenue
was moving in.
1174
00:59:23,855 --> 00:59:26,274
The whole luxury apartments,
1175
00:59:26,358 --> 00:59:28,651
the whitewashing of everything,
1176
00:59:28,693 --> 00:59:31,696
the kind of erasing
of the culture.
1177
00:59:31,738 --> 00:59:34,741
It was a big change.
1178
00:59:37,827 --> 00:59:40,163
It's really disorienting, right,
to walk down a street
1179
00:59:40,205 --> 00:59:43,416
you've walked down
a hundred thousand times,
1180
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:48,004
and feel struck by a sudden
sense of disorientation,
1181
00:59:48,046 --> 00:59:51,883
of feeling like, "I don't know
quite where I am anymore."
1182
00:59:51,925 --> 00:59:53,885
And, "Am I on the right street?
1183
00:59:53,968 --> 00:59:55,720
Am I in the right neighborhood?
Is this...
1184
00:59:55,804 --> 01:00:00,892
Is this the same city?
Is this the same me?"
1185
01:00:00,975 --> 01:00:05,522
One of the ways memory works
is it relies on triggers.
1186
01:00:05,563 --> 01:00:07,857
So, remember when you were there
1187
01:00:07,899 --> 01:00:09,067
and who you were with,
1188
01:00:09,109 --> 01:00:10,568
and then you have
a chain of associations,
1189
01:00:10,610 --> 01:00:13,238
but that chain is broken
and destroyed
1190
01:00:13,279 --> 01:00:14,864
when that place is gone.
1191
01:00:15,699 --> 01:00:16,950
So, we lose ourselves.
1192
01:00:17,033 --> 01:00:19,411
Then we lose our sense
of connection
1193
01:00:19,494 --> 01:00:21,913
and ongoingness
when that happens.
1194
01:00:24,708 --> 01:00:26,543
When Bloomberg became the mayor,
1195
01:00:26,584 --> 01:00:28,962
things started to change fast.
1196
01:00:29,045 --> 01:00:31,006
Those older girls
that I was out there
1197
01:00:31,089 --> 01:00:33,925
on the streets talking to
were no longer there.
1198
01:00:35,260 --> 01:00:38,847
Bloomberg started a program
called Operation Spotlight,
1199
01:00:38,930 --> 01:00:42,100
a "three strikes
and you're out" system.
1200
01:00:42,183 --> 01:00:46,187
If you got over three arrests
for prostitution,
1201
01:00:46,271 --> 01:00:49,482
then you can be sent away
longer than a year.
1202
01:00:49,566 --> 01:00:53,403
Bloomberg was able to clean up
the Meatpacking District
1203
01:00:53,445 --> 01:00:55,071
by sending the girls to jail.
1204
01:00:56,948 --> 01:00:59,743
I spent a lot of my 20s
on Rikers Island,
1205
01:00:59,784 --> 01:01:02,579
New York City's largest jail.
1206
01:01:02,620 --> 01:01:05,331
It's a horrible
and disgusting place.
1207
01:01:05,415 --> 01:01:08,293
People are just piled up
on one another.
1208
01:01:08,335 --> 01:01:11,796
You have people telling you
when to shower, when to eat,
1209
01:01:11,838 --> 01:01:13,131
and when to go to bed.
1210
01:01:14,424 --> 01:01:17,010
You don't have rights.
1211
01:01:17,093 --> 01:01:20,013
Going to Rikers, honey,
was a whole 'nother ball game,
1212
01:01:20,096 --> 01:01:23,058
'cause as soon as you go
into the six building,
1213
01:01:23,141 --> 01:01:25,602
back then,
I'm not going to lie, like,
1214
01:01:25,643 --> 01:01:28,646
it would be a lot
of hate speech.
1215
01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:31,191
As soon as they bring us
off the... the bus,
1216
01:01:31,274 --> 01:01:34,444
and we're in our little
tight skirts and our heels.
1217
01:01:34,486 --> 01:01:38,782
"Oh, look at these
fuckin' faggots," da da da da...
1218
01:01:38,823 --> 01:01:40,241
Come up,
put your hands up here...
1219
01:01:40,325 --> 01:01:42,494
Let me see that ring.
1220
01:01:42,577 --> 01:01:44,329
-Is that a wedding ring?
-Yes, it is.
1221
01:01:44,371 --> 01:01:46,623
All right, leave it on.
You're good. Put your hands up.
1222
01:01:48,833 --> 01:01:50,126
All that is ass and tits.
1223
01:01:50,168 --> 01:01:51,586
Don't worry about it, man,
go over there,
1224
01:01:51,670 --> 01:01:52,837
go over there,
ass and tits, all right.
1225
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:57,425
How did you do that to yourself?
1226
01:01:57,509 --> 01:01:58,635
Implants, Daddy.
1227
01:01:58,677 --> 01:02:00,470
- Really?
-Yes.
1228
01:02:00,512 --> 01:02:01,763
When did you do that?
1229
01:02:01,846 --> 01:02:03,556
About three years ago.
1230
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,849
So when they house you,
1231
01:02:04,933 --> 01:02:06,101
they house you
with all the other men?
1232
01:02:06,184 --> 01:02:09,187
Yeah.
1233
01:02:09,270 --> 01:02:11,481
Gay housing, quarter mile down
1234
01:02:11,523 --> 01:02:13,441
the corridor of building five.
1235
01:02:13,525 --> 01:02:15,527
You have to sign papers.
1236
01:02:15,610 --> 01:02:18,780
When you go into Rikers Island
in the receiving room,
1237
01:02:18,863 --> 01:02:20,657
you can request to be placed
1238
01:02:20,699 --> 01:02:22,534
in alternative
lifestyle housing.
1239
01:02:22,617 --> 01:02:25,954
And that was the place where
all your girlfriends would be.
1240
01:02:26,037 --> 01:02:28,873
All the queens would be there,
everybody you knew was always
1241
01:02:28,915 --> 01:02:31,001
in gay housing.
1242
01:02:31,710 --> 01:02:33,712
They separated the queens
1243
01:02:33,795 --> 01:02:36,506
and the gay boys
from the population.
1244
01:02:36,548 --> 01:02:37,757
My name is Shante
1245
01:02:37,841 --> 01:02:40,802
and this is my little...
my little home
1246
01:02:40,885 --> 01:02:43,221
for my little short stay
while I'm here.
1247
01:02:43,263 --> 01:02:45,849
You know,
my family takes care of me.
1248
01:02:45,932 --> 01:02:49,686
They... They don't knock me
about my sexual preference.
1249
01:02:49,728 --> 01:02:51,604
Um, I have something
1250
01:02:51,688 --> 01:02:53,481
I would like, uh,
for you to see.
1251
01:02:54,441 --> 01:02:56,651
A little bit
of how I dress on the streets.
1252
01:02:56,735 --> 01:02:58,820
This is my everyday effect.
1253
01:02:58,903 --> 01:03:00,572
You know,
that's how I like to dress.
1254
01:03:00,613 --> 01:03:02,323
That's me and my male friend.
1255
01:03:03,241 --> 01:03:05,535
This is how
I dress on the street.
1256
01:03:05,577 --> 01:03:07,328
On the street,
I dress as a woman.
1257
01:03:07,412 --> 01:03:09,748
This is where
I hang my jackets at.
1258
01:03:09,831 --> 01:03:12,042
My suede, my silk.
1259
01:03:12,459 --> 01:03:13,835
Gap, of course.
1260
01:03:14,461 --> 01:03:15,920
Have a nice day.
1261
01:03:15,962 --> 01:03:18,840
I think I've been to Rikers about 30 times,
1262
01:03:18,923 --> 01:03:20,842
the longest time
was eight months.
1263
01:03:21,676 --> 01:03:23,428
If you keep accruing charges,
1264
01:03:23,511 --> 01:03:27,057
you can be sent away longer
upstate to prison.
1265
01:03:28,266 --> 01:03:31,770
What led to my incarceration?
Selling drugs.
1266
01:03:31,811 --> 01:03:34,064
I sold everything from cash,
ass to grass.
1267
01:03:34,105 --> 01:03:36,066
If I could sell it, I sold it.
1268
01:03:36,107 --> 01:03:37,692
Right. After a while,
1269
01:03:37,734 --> 01:03:40,445
you get tired
of being face down, ass up.
1270
01:03:40,528 --> 01:03:43,281
After a while, you get tired
of hanging from the chandelier,
1271
01:03:43,323 --> 01:03:45,200
dropping down
and getting your eagle on.
1272
01:03:46,117 --> 01:03:48,745
I had made a sale
to an undercover,
1273
01:03:48,787 --> 01:03:51,915
and that's how I ended up
going to prison.
1274
01:03:51,956 --> 01:03:56,419
You're up in the mountains,
away from your city
1275
01:03:56,503 --> 01:03:58,546
where all you see is redneck.
1276
01:03:58,630 --> 01:04:02,967
All you see is chewing tobacco
and them calling you nigger.
1277
01:04:03,009 --> 01:04:05,387
And ain't a damn thing
you can say about it.
1278
01:04:07,806 --> 01:04:09,015
I was young.
1279
01:04:10,392 --> 01:04:11,351
I was afraid.
1280
01:04:12,852 --> 01:04:14,270
I was gonna be raped.
1281
01:04:15,188 --> 01:04:17,273
And I turned into a monster.
1282
01:04:19,234 --> 01:04:22,362
How it is to survive
as a trans woman in jail,
1283
01:04:22,445 --> 01:04:26,032
it's a sub world
within the world.
1284
01:04:26,116 --> 01:04:30,370
It's like a microcosmic world
of oppression.
1285
01:04:30,453 --> 01:04:35,083
I realized that people
didn't respect peace.
1286
01:04:35,166 --> 01:04:37,127
They respected violence.
1287
01:04:37,168 --> 01:04:40,046
So I became
a very violent person in jail.
1288
01:04:40,130 --> 01:04:41,506
And I was ready to fight
1289
01:04:41,548 --> 01:04:43,800
and stab anything
that came near me.
1290
01:04:46,386 --> 01:04:47,262
When you cut someone
1291
01:04:47,345 --> 01:04:48,972
or you stab someone in jail,
that's a case.
1292
01:04:49,014 --> 01:04:50,223
They add that on to your time,
1293
01:04:50,306 --> 01:04:52,350
and that's why
you keep getting more time.
1294
01:04:52,434 --> 01:04:54,853
My original sentence
was five to seven.
1295
01:04:54,894 --> 01:04:58,023
So, imagine five flat
to seven flat.
1296
01:04:58,648 --> 01:04:59,607
I did 14.
1297
01:05:07,073 --> 01:05:08,908
Well after 14 years in prison,
1298
01:05:08,992 --> 01:05:11,202
I was released in 2012.
1299
01:05:12,037 --> 01:05:13,538
They just give you a bus ticket,
1300
01:05:13,580 --> 01:05:15,707
and whatever you have
in your commissary,
1301
01:05:15,749 --> 01:05:17,542
and you're on your own.
1302
01:05:17,584 --> 01:05:20,295
I knew to go back,
like, you know where to go.
1303
01:05:21,671 --> 01:05:23,381
So, I'm getting onto this bus
1304
01:05:23,465 --> 01:05:26,468
and I started seeing
all these pretty stores.
1305
01:05:26,509 --> 01:05:28,011
It was very hard for me
1306
01:05:28,053 --> 01:05:30,638
to understand what was going on
around me.
1307
01:05:31,556 --> 01:05:33,933
The community is not there.
1308
01:05:34,017 --> 01:05:36,144
Vanessa was one of the girls
who I hung out with.
1309
01:05:36,227 --> 01:05:38,188
I was like,
"Yo, you heard such and such?"
1310
01:05:38,229 --> 01:05:41,024
"Uh-uh, baby, she dead."
"What?"
1311
01:05:41,066 --> 01:05:43,109
"Oh, no, she gone." "What?"
1312
01:05:44,486 --> 01:05:46,071
Josie? Dead.
1313
01:05:48,865 --> 01:05:50,325
Nunie? Dead.
1314
01:05:51,951 --> 01:05:53,495
Vanessa? Dead.
1315
01:05:54,662 --> 01:05:56,247
Melissa? Dead.
1316
01:05:58,124 --> 01:05:59,584
These people are gone now.
1317
01:06:02,253 --> 01:06:05,548
Now, they got all these
fancy shoe stores down there.
1318
01:06:05,590 --> 01:06:09,552
And what is it, the High Line?
The only "high line" we had
1319
01:06:09,594 --> 01:06:12,263
was a crack pipe on the pier
next to the water.
1320
01:06:12,347 --> 01:06:14,224
That's the only thrill you got.
1321
01:06:15,975 --> 01:06:17,185
The world was digital.
1322
01:06:17,268 --> 01:06:18,770
What the hell is an iPhone?
1323
01:06:18,853 --> 01:06:22,107
When I went to jail,
we had the beepers.
1324
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:26,444
It was still some of the same
but the money had changed.
1325
01:06:26,486 --> 01:06:30,115
The price of pussy went down.
I ain't got time for that.
1326
01:06:30,156 --> 01:06:32,701
So I knew
I couldn't survive like that.
1327
01:06:35,245 --> 01:06:38,331
Before I just decided to, like,
I can't do this anymore.
1328
01:06:39,124 --> 01:06:41,918
I couldn't. I'm almost 50.
1329
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,795
So, it took a lot for me
to walk away
1330
01:06:43,837 --> 01:06:44,921
from the thing that--
1331
01:06:44,963 --> 01:06:47,090
the very thing
that saved my life.
1332
01:06:49,926 --> 01:06:51,594
The Stroll was over.
1333
01:07:10,488 --> 01:07:13,908
This rain, to me,
kind of represents
1334
01:07:13,992 --> 01:07:17,787
all of the tears of the girls
who didn't make it to see today.
1335
01:07:20,415 --> 01:07:21,916
I like to think that they're
1336
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,669
giving me their blessings
from above.
1337
01:07:26,463 --> 01:07:27,756
I think about...
1338
01:07:29,049 --> 01:07:33,553
all of the girls
that used to sleep up here.
1339
01:07:33,636 --> 01:07:37,849
Back in the day,
this whole row was encampments.
1340
01:07:37,891 --> 01:07:40,518
Girls living
in cardboard boxes.
1341
01:07:42,729 --> 01:07:44,314
And I just can't believe
1342
01:07:44,356 --> 01:07:47,108
how many times I had to
go to jail...
1343
01:07:47,192 --> 01:07:49,235
...for this High Line park
to be built.
1344
01:07:58,661 --> 01:08:01,122
Do you remember
when we used to walk down here,
1345
01:08:01,206 --> 01:08:03,875
and all the neighbors
used to stare at us,
1346
01:08:03,958 --> 01:08:05,085
-and we used to be...
-Mm-hmm.
1347
01:08:05,168 --> 01:08:07,504
-And we would just be pumping.
-...runway.
1348
01:08:07,545 --> 01:08:10,924
-And they would look at us
like we were circus freaks...
-Pumping.
1349
01:08:11,007 --> 01:08:13,510
...but you could tell
they enjoyed it.
1350
01:08:14,469 --> 01:08:16,888
I remember the girls
would be on this corner,
1351
01:08:16,970 --> 01:08:18,973
lined up against this wall.
1352
01:08:19,057 --> 01:08:22,143
Right.
I would be standing right here.
1353
01:08:22,227 --> 01:08:24,354
-Just perched like...
-Perched.
1354
01:08:24,938 --> 01:08:26,356
Looking for a date.
1355
01:08:27,732 --> 01:08:30,734
Sometimes, we used
to just go up to the cars.
1356
01:08:30,819 --> 01:08:33,238
- Yes.
- Look, Kristen.
1357
01:08:33,279 --> 01:08:36,908
Yes. Let me call a date.
Or give him the very...
1358
01:08:39,368 --> 01:08:42,330
I could just imagine
Josie as she was,
1359
01:08:42,413 --> 01:08:47,961
- you know, out in a scandal--
- And walking up to the cars like nothing.
1360
01:08:48,044 --> 01:08:50,130
She would come down the street
1361
01:08:50,212 --> 01:08:52,465
and she would have
all this body.
1362
01:08:52,549 --> 01:08:53,800
-Right.
-She would be in like--
you know,
1363
01:08:53,883 --> 01:08:57,595
her ass out up to here,
like, "How you doing, baby?"
1364
01:08:57,636 --> 01:08:59,596
And she would come back
1365
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,225
with a bag of money.
1366
01:09:03,268 --> 01:09:04,602
Josie was...
1367
01:09:04,644 --> 01:09:08,273
...the true meaning
of a trans woman sex worker.
1368
01:09:08,314 --> 01:09:11,568
She would show everybody
how it's done.
1369
01:09:11,609 --> 01:09:14,279
What do you think she would
think about today though, like?
1370
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:17,240
I think, today,
Josie would still be here
1371
01:09:17,282 --> 01:09:18,825
right now, making her money.
1372
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,703
She was out here
a very long time,
1373
01:09:21,786 --> 01:09:24,372
I think longer than any of us
has been out here.
1374
01:09:24,456 --> 01:09:28,501
And I could only imagine
being 12, 13 years old,
1375
01:09:28,585 --> 01:09:30,795
having to come out
into the streets
1376
01:09:30,837 --> 01:09:32,921
because your family
don't accept you
1377
01:09:32,964 --> 01:09:36,509
to have to sex work to survive.
1378
01:09:39,179 --> 01:09:40,555
I can't stop thinking about,
1379
01:09:40,638 --> 01:09:43,099
like, I see all these people
walking around,
1380
01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:45,393
and it reminds me
of the people
1381
01:09:45,477 --> 01:09:47,687
that were standing
in their place back in our day
1382
01:09:47,770 --> 01:09:48,813
that are no longer here.
1383
01:09:50,023 --> 01:09:51,941
A lot of people
lost their lives...
1384
01:09:53,484 --> 01:09:55,528
trying to survive here
on this corner.
1385
01:09:58,823 --> 01:10:02,160
Today, we’re at this point
of liberation and visibility
1386
01:10:02,243 --> 01:10:04,829
and everybody's got talking
about trans issues.
1387
01:10:04,871 --> 01:10:06,164
And act like
1388
01:10:06,247 --> 01:10:07,957
-it's something new.
-Hold on, I can't.
1389
01:10:08,833 --> 01:10:11,169
I can’t.
1390
01:10:12,337 --> 01:10:14,339
Oh, my God. I can't...
1391
01:10:20,345 --> 01:10:22,806
...then I come here
and I feel fucked up.
1392
01:10:24,557 --> 01:10:27,352
I can't even believe it.
It's like,
1393
01:10:27,394 --> 01:10:30,814
the things we had to do.
I hate this place.
1394
01:10:31,481 --> 01:10:33,566
I fucking hate this place.
1395
01:10:35,193 --> 01:10:36,986
Let's go.
1396
01:10:39,072 --> 01:10:40,990
Come on, let's go home.
1397
01:10:59,551 --> 01:11:02,345
From back then, from the '80s...
1398
01:11:03,430 --> 01:11:06,307
let's say there was
a thousand girls.
1399
01:11:06,391 --> 01:11:10,061
Today, living from that era,
it may be five.
1400
01:11:10,145 --> 01:11:11,187
Oh, my God.
1401
01:11:11,229 --> 01:11:14,524
It might be five of us
left from then
1402
01:11:14,566 --> 01:11:17,694
that was out on The Stroll
because everybody's gone.
1403
01:11:17,777 --> 01:11:19,029
Trans women don't...
1404
01:11:20,613 --> 01:11:24,492
get to live past 35 or 40.
1405
01:11:24,576 --> 01:11:28,079
So, if you were here
and you made it...
1406
01:11:28,121 --> 01:11:30,957
to live that beyond,
you are tremendously blessed,
1407
01:11:31,041 --> 01:11:37,839
and you have changed
the dynamics of the system.
1408
01:11:37,922 --> 01:11:42,469
And you must. You must.
Even in your depression.
1409
01:11:42,552 --> 01:11:45,722
You owe it
to every trans woman before you,
1410
01:11:45,764 --> 01:11:49,934
and everyone after you,
to keep moving and keep pushing.
1411
01:11:51,978 --> 01:11:56,524
The trans community has always
been in survival mode forever,
1412
01:11:56,608 --> 01:11:58,276
and it is important
1413
01:11:58,318 --> 01:12:01,738
that we all get
an opportunity to...
1414
01:12:02,822 --> 01:12:04,616
thrive.
1415
01:12:04,657 --> 01:12:07,619
I believe that
the gay rights movement
1416
01:12:07,660 --> 01:12:11,539
has consistently left us behind,
1417
01:12:11,623 --> 01:12:15,293
and it took trans people
and sex workers
1418
01:12:15,377 --> 01:12:17,712
to start our own fight.
1419
01:12:17,796 --> 01:12:21,591
As a sex worker,
as a person who live
1420
01:12:23,051 --> 01:12:28,932
...for 30 years, exchanging sex
for anything that I needed,
1421
01:12:28,973 --> 01:12:30,600
I want to remind you all
1422
01:12:30,642 --> 01:12:33,436
that we cannot
forget sex workers.
1423
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:38,149
We've been gatekeeped
from the smallest windows
1424
01:12:38,191 --> 01:12:39,901
in society to the highest.
1425
01:12:39,984 --> 01:12:43,154
Black trans women
are now in the fight
1426
01:12:43,238 --> 01:12:44,656
and we won't go away.
1427
01:12:44,698 --> 01:12:47,450
Black trans lives matter!
1428
01:12:47,492 --> 01:12:49,119
Black trans lives matter!
1429
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,287
Across the country,
where we're seeing an escalation
1430
01:12:51,329 --> 01:12:53,540
of policing,
an escalation of laws
1431
01:12:53,623 --> 01:12:55,291
targeting trans people.
1432
01:12:55,333 --> 01:12:56,501
Many places...
1433
01:12:56,584 --> 01:12:58,003
...have some criminal law
1434
01:12:58,044 --> 01:13:01,589
that is about indicating
that one is a sex worker.
1435
01:13:01,673 --> 01:13:04,384
And these are, broadly speaking,
1436
01:13:04,467 --> 01:13:06,845
the laws, uh, in New York
and around the country
1437
01:13:06,886 --> 01:13:10,015
that have been referred to as
the "Walking While Trans" laws.
1438
01:13:10,098 --> 01:13:12,726
What these laws essentially
make a crime
1439
01:13:12,809 --> 01:13:17,856
is looking like you're going
to engage in sex work.
1440
01:13:17,897 --> 01:13:21,026
Things like talking
to people in cars,
1441
01:13:21,067 --> 01:13:22,569
walking down the street,
1442
01:13:23,194 --> 01:13:24,988
congregating with others.
1443
01:13:25,030 --> 01:13:30,785
Very unclear, vague,
overbroad set of laws
1444
01:13:30,869 --> 01:13:33,663
that for decades
have been used just to target
1445
01:13:33,705 --> 01:13:36,541
and harass largely
trans women of color.
1446
01:13:37,792 --> 01:13:40,045
Trans rights are human rights!
1447
01:13:40,128 --> 01:13:41,838
I believe that change
1448
01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:46,009
is often reflected
in legislation.
1449
01:13:46,092 --> 01:13:48,386
Black trans lives matter!
1450
01:13:51,097 --> 01:13:53,725
Welcome back to Capital Tonight.
I'm Susan Arbetter.
1451
01:13:53,767 --> 01:13:55,977
Advocates are calling
for the repeal of a bill
1452
01:13:56,061 --> 01:13:59,105
that's been used to arrest
transgender women of color.
1453
01:13:59,189 --> 01:14:02,776
TS Candii, a Black trans woman,
who on a summer afternoon
1454
01:14:02,859 --> 01:14:05,528
in 2017 was smoking
outside her apartment
1455
01:14:05,570 --> 01:14:07,280
when a police officer
approached her.
1456
01:14:07,364 --> 01:14:11,826
He threatened to arrest her
under this very section 240.37,
1457
01:14:11,910 --> 01:14:14,037
unless she performed
oral sex on him.
1458
01:14:15,538 --> 01:14:18,667
Bring the bill to vote now!
1459
01:14:18,750 --> 01:14:21,586
Bring the bill to vote now!
1460
01:14:21,628 --> 01:14:23,296
- We are ready...
- We are ready...
1461
01:14:23,380 --> 01:14:25,173
- ...to repeal...
-C ...to repeal...
1462
01:14:25,256 --> 01:14:27,050
- ...the Walking...
- ...the Walking...
1463
01:14:27,092 --> 01:14:28,927
- ...While Trans....
- ...While Trans....
1464
01:14:28,968 --> 01:14:30,178
- ...ban.
- ...ban.
1465
01:14:30,261 --> 01:14:32,138
New tonight,
Governor Cuomo has signed
1466
01:14:32,222 --> 01:14:34,265
a measure repealing parts
of the so-called,
1467
01:14:34,349 --> 01:14:36,935
"Walking While Trans" law.
1468
01:14:37,018 --> 01:14:40,188
It was passed in the '70s
to prohibit loitering
1469
01:14:40,271 --> 01:14:41,981
for the purpose of prostitution.
1470
01:14:42,065 --> 01:14:45,151
An act to repeal
Section 240.37
of the penal law,
1471
01:14:45,235 --> 01:14:48,697
- ayes forty five, May 16.
- The bill is passed.
1472
01:14:48,780 --> 01:14:50,824
The most important part
of all of this
1473
01:14:50,907 --> 01:14:54,577
is like people like me
and people like everybody here
1474
01:14:54,619 --> 01:14:57,414
that identify as trans
are gonna be able
1475
01:14:57,455 --> 01:14:59,541
to see themselves reflected
1476
01:14:59,624 --> 01:15:02,669
in this important point
of the city,
1477
01:15:02,752 --> 01:15:07,674
and say, "Me as a trans person,
I see myself reflected.
1478
01:15:07,757 --> 01:15:12,137
Me as a person of color,
I see myself reflected.
1479
01:15:12,178 --> 01:15:17,267
Me as a former sex worker,
I see myself reflected."
1480
01:15:19,561 --> 01:15:23,398
Today, sex workers
are finding a way
1481
01:15:23,481 --> 01:15:25,316
to express their needs,
1482
01:15:25,358 --> 01:15:29,529
and to ask for the solutions
that they need for themselves.
1483
01:15:34,367 --> 01:15:37,662
I didn't want to work
for another agency
1484
01:15:37,704 --> 01:15:39,080
that was gonna govern my work,
1485
01:15:39,164 --> 01:15:43,126
or my thoughts, or my dreams,
or my wishes for my community.
1486
01:15:43,168 --> 01:15:46,838
I wanted to do that
and have ownership of my own.
1487
01:15:46,921 --> 01:15:50,216
You took part
in a very iconic moment
1488
01:15:50,300 --> 01:15:52,344
at the Brooklyn March.
1489
01:15:52,427 --> 01:15:54,596
We had started a fundraiser
1490
01:15:54,679 --> 01:15:58,016
exactly three days
before the liberation march.
1491
01:15:58,099 --> 01:16:04,189
In three days’ time,
the numbers blew my face off.
1492
01:16:04,272 --> 01:16:06,441
Black trans lives matter!
1493
01:16:06,524 --> 01:16:08,526
Black trans lives matter!
1494
01:16:08,610 --> 01:16:10,904
Black trans lives matter!
1495
01:16:20,747 --> 01:16:23,625
We're whores!
1496
01:16:28,546 --> 01:16:31,174
I am the founder of GLITS Inc.,
1497
01:16:31,216 --> 01:16:35,553
that's "Gays and Lesbians Living
in a Transgender Society."
1498
01:16:39,099 --> 01:16:40,725
I named it that
1499
01:16:40,767 --> 01:16:43,186
because we have
always been last.
1500
01:16:44,562 --> 01:16:47,232
That's not gonna happen
anymore, we're first.
1501
01:16:57,826 --> 01:17:01,913
We have never had equity
in the city of New York.
1502
01:17:01,996 --> 01:17:04,958
Motherfuckers, we do now.
1503
01:17:34,863 --> 01:17:36,239
We made it here.
1504
01:17:40,452 --> 01:17:42,996
We're buying equity.
1505
01:18:01,639 --> 01:18:04,142
For every girl that's died,
1506
01:18:04,184 --> 01:18:07,312
the police need
to be ashamed of themselves.
1507
01:18:07,395 --> 01:18:10,774
For every time
we had to bury one of ours,
1508
01:18:10,815 --> 01:18:13,485
they need to be ashamed
of themselves.
1509
01:18:13,568 --> 01:18:19,657
You're looking at a Black,
international whore, baby.
1510
01:18:19,699 --> 01:18:22,827
It's me.
1511
01:18:24,371 --> 01:18:28,333
And I'm selling me to save you.
1512
01:18:28,375 --> 01:18:32,087
♪ (“I AM HER”
BY SHEA DIAMOND PLAYING) ♪
1513
01:18:36,132 --> 01:18:39,052
♪ There’s an outcast
In everybody’s life ♪
1514
01:18:39,135 --> 01:18:43,515
-♪ And I am her ♪
-♪ I am her ♪
1515
01:18:43,556 --> 01:18:46,351
♪ There’s a shadow
In everybody’s front door ♪
1516
01:18:46,393 --> 01:18:49,646
-♪ And I am her ♪
-♪ I am her... ♪
1517
01:18:49,729 --> 01:18:51,773
As a young,
homeless trans woman
1518
01:18:51,856 --> 01:18:54,359
sleeping in movie theatres,
I never thought
1519
01:18:54,442 --> 01:18:58,113
I would have the power
and ability to make films.
1520
01:18:58,196 --> 01:19:01,199
I am so proud
that the girls are happy,
1521
01:19:01,282 --> 01:19:04,160
and I wanted to give
them the opportunity to shine.
1522
01:19:04,911 --> 01:19:09,040
♪ All that glitters isn't gold ♪
1523
01:19:09,082 --> 01:19:13,128
♪ At least that's
What I've been told... ♪
1524
01:19:13,211 --> 01:19:16,131
The system never
gave us resources.
1525
01:19:16,214 --> 01:19:19,217
We created the resources
by telling our stories,
1526
01:19:19,259 --> 01:19:21,511
by standing out there
and rallying.
1527
01:19:21,553 --> 01:19:24,180
I am my own liberation.
1528
01:19:24,222 --> 01:19:26,057
♪ It wouldn't be
The worst thing ♪
1529
01:19:26,099 --> 01:19:27,434
♪ That I ever did ♪
1530
01:19:27,517 --> 01:19:31,730
♪ It's a hell of a world
That we're living in ♪
1531
01:19:31,813 --> 01:19:34,899
♪ James 2:10
A sin is a sin... ♪
1532
01:19:34,941 --> 01:19:37,235
When people say
that there's no honor
1533
01:19:37,318 --> 01:19:40,071
amongst hoes,
they told a fucking lie,
1534
01:19:40,155 --> 01:19:42,574
because for The Stroll
for us back then,
1535
01:19:42,657 --> 01:19:44,242
there was nothing but honor,
1536
01:19:44,325 --> 01:19:45,660
and protect a girl
1537
01:19:45,702 --> 01:19:47,912
who was walking down
that back street.
1538
01:19:47,954 --> 01:19:50,915
♪ There's an outcast
In everybody's life ♪
1539
01:19:50,957 --> 01:19:55,170
-♪ And I am her ♪
-♪ I am her... ♪
1540
01:19:55,253 --> 01:19:56,838
A lot of these new girls,
1541
01:19:56,921 --> 01:20:00,133
they don't know about
what we have done for them.
1542
01:20:00,216 --> 01:20:04,262
We paved the way.
We fought to be where we are.
1543
01:20:04,346 --> 01:20:07,682
No matter how much
my future changes,
1544
01:20:07,724 --> 01:20:10,435
14th Street
will always be a part of me.
1545
01:20:10,518 --> 01:20:16,524
♪ Oh, you know I am her ♪
1546
01:20:17,567 --> 01:20:22,155
♪ I am shame, she is me
We get down... ♪
1547
01:20:22,238 --> 01:20:25,658
To live 20 years on a ho stroll,
1548
01:20:25,742 --> 01:20:28,536
being homeless, being on drugs,
1549
01:20:28,620 --> 01:20:31,915
doing what I had to do,
and I survived all of it,
1550
01:20:31,956 --> 01:20:34,417
I feel that
I am that Wonder Woman.
1551
01:20:34,459 --> 01:20:38,838
And I am here today
at the age of 60.
1552
01:20:39,881 --> 01:20:43,051
♪ There's an outcast
In everybody's life ♪
1553
01:20:43,134 --> 01:20:47,013
-♪ And I am her ♪
-♪ I am her... ♪
1554
01:20:47,097 --> 01:20:50,725
After 20 years,
we're still connected.
1555
01:20:50,809 --> 01:20:53,603
We always look out
for one another.
1556
01:20:55,313 --> 01:20:57,607
Through all of our
shared experiences,
1557
01:20:57,649 --> 01:20:59,859
our sisterhood still thrives.
1558
01:20:59,943 --> 01:21:02,362
♪ And I am her... ♪
1559
01:21:02,445 --> 01:21:05,949
You can take the girl off of The Stroll,
1560
01:21:05,990 --> 01:21:08,660
but you can't take The Stroll
out of the girl.
121550
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