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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:08,842 --> 00:00:11,261 Bill writes code for days without sleep. 2 00:00:12,303 --> 00:00:15,598 But instead of going to bed, he needs to blow off steam. 3 00:00:17,225 --> 00:00:19,394 Hitting the desert roads of Albuquerque at night, 4 00:00:19,894 --> 00:00:21,980 he drives faster and faster... 5 00:00:25,066 --> 00:00:26,526 pushing the limits of his car... 6 00:00:28,194 --> 00:00:29,070 and the law. 7 00:00:35,493 --> 00:00:38,079 Hello, I'm Bill Gates. 8 00:00:40,582 --> 00:00:42,876 In this video, you're going to see the future. 9 00:00:43,001 --> 00:00:44,603 Mr. Bill Gates. 10 00:00:44,627 --> 00:00:47,231 Forbes Magazine calls Gates America's richest person. 11 00:00:47,255 --> 00:00:48,935 Six point three billion dollars. 12 00:00:49,007 --> 00:00:51,986 - Worth 40 billion dollars. - One hundred billion dollars. 13 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:54,291 Bill Gates is one of the most remarkable people... 14 00:00:54,345 --> 00:00:56,306 - Arrogant. Greedy. - ...I've ever met. 15 00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:58,743 - Predatory, capitalistic brainiac. - A devil. 16 00:00:58,767 --> 00:00:59,934 Impatient optimist. 17 00:01:00,018 --> 00:01:01,811 - Your brain is a CPU? - Yes. 18 00:01:01,895 --> 00:01:03,354 He thrives on complexity. 19 00:01:03,438 --> 00:01:05,440 He's the smartest person I've ever met. 20 00:01:05,523 --> 00:01:06,941 He did drop out of college. 21 00:01:07,025 --> 00:01:09,319 You guys never understood the first thing about this. 22 00:01:09,402 --> 00:01:12,238 Greatest American businessman of his generation. 23 00:01:12,322 --> 00:01:14,282 He was changing the world with software. 24 00:01:14,365 --> 00:01:17,243 Is Bill Gates stifling technological innovation? 25 00:01:17,327 --> 00:01:19,513 They're supposed to be jealous, supposed to be agitated. 26 00:01:19,537 --> 00:01:21,539 Bill wants people to think that he's Edison 27 00:01:21,623 --> 00:01:23,184 - and he's really Rockefeller. - I'm done. 28 00:01:24,626 --> 00:01:27,045 If he were Edison, he'd be less dangerous. 29 00:01:27,754 --> 00:01:30,006 Can I just ask you one more question? 30 00:01:30,090 --> 00:01:31,716 Will the real Bill Gates... 31 00:01:32,008 --> 00:01:34,260 - Damn, Bill. - ...please stand up? 32 00:01:56,366 --> 00:01:59,202 When Bill Gates stepped down from Microsoft in 2008, 33 00:01:59,285 --> 00:02:01,788 he was worth more than 58 billion dollars. 34 00:02:05,750 --> 00:02:08,419 He built that fortune thinking about computer software, 35 00:02:09,003 --> 00:02:10,839 operating systems, spreadsheets, 36 00:02:11,422 --> 00:02:12,422 and the Internet. 37 00:02:15,301 --> 00:02:16,928 So in August 2012, 38 00:02:17,679 --> 00:02:18,930 what was on his mind? 39 00:02:32,527 --> 00:02:35,155 So basically, we loop around this way. 40 00:02:35,238 --> 00:02:36,406 Okay, good. 41 00:02:38,116 --> 00:02:40,118 There's a lot of spider webs up here. 42 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:43,997 Melinda always has me go first 'cause she doesn't like cobwebs. 43 00:02:45,665 --> 00:02:47,125 And I don't mind cobwebs. 44 00:02:47,917 --> 00:02:50,237 I first met Bill when I was at a film screening. 45 00:02:50,920 --> 00:02:54,048 I walked over to introduce myself and noticed he was reading. 46 00:02:54,757 --> 00:02:57,969 I looked closer and realized it was a Minnesota state budget 47 00:02:58,052 --> 00:03:00,138 that he was combing over line by line. 48 00:03:00,930 --> 00:03:03,975 In his tote bag... were 37 other budgets. 49 00:03:05,101 --> 00:03:07,770 Immediately I wondered, who is this guy? 50 00:03:08,730 --> 00:03:10,210 What's your favorite food? 51 00:03:11,232 --> 00:03:13,610 - Hamburger. - What's your favorite animal? 52 00:03:14,903 --> 00:03:16,070 Dog. 53 00:03:16,154 --> 00:03:18,194 What's your favorite animal that you eat? 54 00:03:19,991 --> 00:03:20,991 Cow. 55 00:03:21,534 --> 00:03:23,786 - What do you eat for breakfast? - Nothing. 56 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:25,264 - Favorite snack? - Nuts. 57 00:03:25,288 --> 00:03:27,540 - Coffee or tea? - Way more coffee. 58 00:03:28,124 --> 00:03:29,751 What is your worst fear? 59 00:03:31,878 --> 00:03:32,878 Mmm... 60 00:03:34,172 --> 00:03:36,966 I don't want my brain to stop working. 61 00:03:44,265 --> 00:03:46,893 Even before he left Microsoft in 2008, 62 00:03:46,976 --> 00:03:48,645 Bill and his wife and partner Melinda 63 00:03:48,728 --> 00:03:51,481 were already building what's now the world's largest foundation. 64 00:03:52,565 --> 00:03:54,734 They spend nearly five billion dollars a year, 65 00:03:55,318 --> 00:03:57,195 work on US public education, 66 00:03:57,779 --> 00:03:58,947 women and family planning. 67 00:03:59,781 --> 00:04:02,158 They get antiviral drugs to HIV patients, 68 00:04:02,700 --> 00:04:04,369 vaccines to the poorest kids. 69 00:04:05,536 --> 00:04:07,080 But what I really wanted to know... 70 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:09,624 what does Bill actually do? 71 00:04:13,586 --> 00:04:14,879 Eight o'clock, 72 00:04:14,963 --> 00:04:16,839 Artificial Intelligence Tech Review, 73 00:04:16,923 --> 00:04:19,008 nine o'clock, TerraPower meeting, 74 00:04:19,092 --> 00:04:21,719 10:30, Microsoft board of directors, 75 00:04:21,803 --> 00:04:23,888 half an hour lunch, he'll call with Warren Buffett, 76 00:04:23,972 --> 00:04:25,723 12:30, sanitation meeting, 77 00:04:25,807 --> 00:04:27,058 an education strategy review, 78 00:04:27,141 --> 00:04:28,685 interview with a journalist. 79 00:04:28,851 --> 00:04:32,438 And then at the end of the day, he'll go over to the IV lab 80 00:04:32,522 --> 00:04:33,856 and spend some time there. 81 00:04:35,066 --> 00:04:36,067 Is he on time? 82 00:04:36,150 --> 00:04:40,488 He is on time to the minute every single meeting without fail. 83 00:04:41,322 --> 00:04:45,118 Time is the one commodity that he can't buy more of. 84 00:04:45,201 --> 00:04:46,369 It's a limited resource. 85 00:04:46,452 --> 00:04:47,287 It's finite. 86 00:04:47,370 --> 00:04:50,081 He's got the same 24 hours in a day that the rest of us have. 87 00:04:59,299 --> 00:05:03,094 I watch him sometimes do his best thinking when he's walking. 88 00:05:04,804 --> 00:05:07,307 In our family space at home there's a place I will sit down, 89 00:05:07,390 --> 00:05:08,710 and if he's working on something, 90 00:05:09,017 --> 00:05:10,893 he will pace back and forth. 91 00:05:11,936 --> 00:05:13,980 It helps him somehow organize his brain. 92 00:05:15,898 --> 00:05:18,776 You have to pick a pretty finite number of things 93 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,696 to tell your mind to... 94 00:05:22,613 --> 00:05:23,613 work on. 95 00:05:24,615 --> 00:05:25,742 You have to decide... 96 00:05:26,492 --> 00:05:27,577 what should you care about? 97 00:05:31,622 --> 00:05:35,209 You know, what you'd really like is for all the children of the world 98 00:05:36,336 --> 00:05:37,712 to be treated equally. 99 00:05:42,258 --> 00:05:45,345 What strikes me is how optimistic you are. 100 00:05:45,428 --> 00:05:47,430 Do you think that was just physiological? 101 00:05:48,014 --> 00:05:49,891 Or is that just like your chemistry? 102 00:05:50,475 --> 00:05:51,517 It must be. 103 00:05:52,435 --> 00:05:53,644 When I was very young, 104 00:05:54,228 --> 00:05:55,646 they nicknamed me Happy Boy. 105 00:05:57,899 --> 00:06:01,903 I had an older sister who didn't, you know, beat me up or anything. 106 00:06:05,406 --> 00:06:06,866 He did smile all the time. 107 00:06:09,327 --> 00:06:11,913 My first memories of him are... he and I would go 108 00:06:11,996 --> 00:06:15,666 and spend like a night or the weekend at my grandmother's house. 109 00:06:16,167 --> 00:06:19,420 And we would play, um, sort of like make-believe, 110 00:06:19,504 --> 00:06:22,507 like kids would play, we'd make houses and whatever. 111 00:06:25,718 --> 00:06:27,553 My brother would always be the dog. 112 00:06:31,432 --> 00:06:33,601 He was sort of a towhead, 113 00:06:34,185 --> 00:06:36,312 smiley little... kid. 114 00:06:40,775 --> 00:06:43,879 It was an early morning when Bill and Melinda read a story in the paper 115 00:06:43,903 --> 00:06:45,823 that would change the course of their foundation. 116 00:06:50,868 --> 00:06:54,288 The point of my article was to remind people 117 00:06:54,372 --> 00:06:56,749 that kids around the world are dying 118 00:06:56,833 --> 00:06:59,085 for reasons that are entirely preventable 119 00:06:59,168 --> 00:07:02,171 just because they happen to be born in Niger and not New York. 120 00:07:05,883 --> 00:07:09,137 We saw this article and I remember saying to Bill, "This is unbelievable. 121 00:07:09,220 --> 00:07:11,389 People are still dying of diarrhea. 122 00:07:11,472 --> 00:07:13,057 How could that be?" 123 00:07:13,141 --> 00:07:14,781 Because by then, we had a young daughter. 124 00:07:17,854 --> 00:07:21,899 And I knew if this child that I'm holding had diarrhea, 125 00:07:21,983 --> 00:07:23,901 I'd go to the pharmacy, I'd go to the doctor. 126 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:28,865 If I was a mom in the developing world... 127 00:07:30,575 --> 00:07:32,994 ...this child might not make it. 128 00:07:35,913 --> 00:07:39,041 And you can feel, I think, as a parent, 129 00:07:39,125 --> 00:07:42,170 that capacity of how tragic that would be 130 00:07:42,253 --> 00:07:44,881 and how needless and senseless. 131 00:07:44,964 --> 00:07:48,426 Just because the world won't focus on it. Are you kidding me? 132 00:07:52,096 --> 00:07:55,433 We had made the commitment that the vast resources 133 00:07:55,516 --> 00:07:57,393 from Microsoft will go back to society. 134 00:07:58,144 --> 00:08:00,062 But what this article did for us 135 00:08:00,146 --> 00:08:03,983 is it really got us thinking about global health and what could you do? 136 00:08:05,318 --> 00:08:07,653 I... They had started philanthropy. 137 00:08:07,737 --> 00:08:10,323 They were providing computers in southern Africa. 138 00:08:10,406 --> 00:08:11,592 And it was kind of frustrating. 139 00:08:11,616 --> 00:08:13,910 Didn't really feel like it was very effective. 140 00:08:13,993 --> 00:08:16,245 They were searching around for new issues. 141 00:08:16,954 --> 00:08:19,540 And the most important article 142 00:08:19,624 --> 00:08:21,501 I've ever written for that reason. 143 00:08:22,043 --> 00:08:24,462 Bill went on to read the World Development Report 144 00:08:24,545 --> 00:08:26,839 about how many kids 145 00:08:26,923 --> 00:08:28,049 are dying of diarrhea. 146 00:08:30,968 --> 00:08:32,528 At the time this book comes out, 147 00:08:33,137 --> 00:08:37,767 twelve percent of all kids... die before the age of five. 148 00:08:42,730 --> 00:08:44,690 Three million times a year, 149 00:08:45,441 --> 00:08:48,486 parents are burying children because of diarrhea. 150 00:08:49,654 --> 00:08:52,532 And in the world that I'm spending time in, 151 00:08:52,615 --> 00:08:54,325 I've never met a single parent 152 00:08:54,992 --> 00:08:58,246 who had to bury a child because they died of diarrhea. 153 00:09:00,039 --> 00:09:03,543 So it makes you wonder, hey, is the world applying 154 00:09:04,126 --> 00:09:06,796 its incredible set of resources 155 00:09:07,797 --> 00:09:10,424 to eliminate these deaths? 156 00:09:15,137 --> 00:09:17,306 What I think is a miracle is that... 157 00:09:17,765 --> 00:09:20,935 a thousand influential people have this book but never read it. 158 00:09:21,978 --> 00:09:24,939 You happen to be one of the most influential people and you've read it, 159 00:09:25,022 --> 00:09:26,107 and you understood it, 160 00:09:26,190 --> 00:09:28,859 and you decided, okay, this is the action I wanna take. 161 00:09:29,443 --> 00:09:31,487 Yeah, this book would sit on a lot of shelves. 162 00:09:31,571 --> 00:09:33,171 It's... It's not... 163 00:09:33,197 --> 00:09:35,575 It's not a page-turner. 164 00:09:36,742 --> 00:09:38,286 Eight plus four. 165 00:09:38,744 --> 00:09:39,996 Four plus nine. 166 00:09:40,621 --> 00:09:41,747 Twenty plus two. 167 00:09:41,831 --> 00:09:43,457 Nine plus seven. 168 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:45,418 Seven plus five. 169 00:09:45,543 --> 00:09:47,583 Do you remember the day when you realized 170 00:09:47,628 --> 00:09:50,047 that you were smarter than other kids your age? 171 00:09:50,131 --> 00:09:52,466 Three plus six. Ten plus two. 172 00:09:52,550 --> 00:09:55,344 They used to have these records they'd put on, 173 00:09:55,428 --> 00:09:57,388 and a voice that would say, 174 00:09:57,471 --> 00:09:59,348 like "13 plus 18." 175 00:09:59,432 --> 00:10:00,683 And I'd write the answer down, 176 00:10:00,766 --> 00:10:01,892 look at other students. 177 00:10:01,976 --> 00:10:03,496 The recording would go fairly quickly. 178 00:10:04,061 --> 00:10:05,271 Thirteen plus 18. 179 00:10:05,354 --> 00:10:07,064 Seventeen plus nine. 180 00:10:07,148 --> 00:10:08,733 Ten plus 32. 181 00:10:08,816 --> 00:10:12,445 And so as I'd write the answers down, you could see people kinda going... 182 00:10:12,528 --> 00:10:14,822 "Ah! This is too fast." 183 00:10:16,282 --> 00:10:19,285 So I had a sense that my mind was snappy 184 00:10:19,368 --> 00:10:22,622 on, you know, simple addition type things. 185 00:10:25,249 --> 00:10:27,877 And by 8th grade you take this math test, 186 00:10:28,252 --> 00:10:29,795 and you do best in the state. 187 00:10:30,046 --> 00:10:30,921 Yeah. 188 00:10:31,005 --> 00:10:33,325 And not just best in the state from 8th graders. 189 00:10:33,382 --> 00:10:35,176 You did best in the state from every 190 00:10:35,426 --> 00:10:37,470 eighth, 9th, 10th, 11th, and 12th grader. 191 00:10:37,553 --> 00:10:39,472 That's pretty mind-blowing. 192 00:10:40,848 --> 00:10:43,559 Which parent pushed you to be the best? 193 00:10:44,769 --> 00:10:45,769 My mom. 194 00:10:51,692 --> 00:10:53,819 My mom was very engaged 195 00:10:54,487 --> 00:10:57,114 in all of our day-to-day activity. 196 00:10:57,198 --> 00:10:59,784 My... My dad was amazing as a role model, 197 00:10:59,867 --> 00:11:03,871 but the person who tried to get me excited about things, that was... 198 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:06,082 very dominated by my mom. 199 00:11:08,626 --> 00:11:10,211 She was very warm. 200 00:11:10,294 --> 00:11:13,130 She had a very good sense of how to make people feel comfortable. 201 00:11:13,506 --> 00:11:16,634 She was very socially skilled and... 202 00:11:17,426 --> 00:11:19,887 not in a fake way, in a very genuine way. 203 00:11:19,970 --> 00:11:22,010 She cared about people and was interested in people. 204 00:11:23,808 --> 00:11:25,017 This is my mom. 205 00:11:26,018 --> 00:11:28,604 This is actually some early medical stuff 206 00:11:28,688 --> 00:11:31,357 being displayed at this university that my mom must have... 207 00:11:32,233 --> 00:11:33,442 been involved with somehow. 208 00:11:35,152 --> 00:11:38,072 She was very big in the social scene in the Seattle area. 209 00:11:38,781 --> 00:11:40,908 She was on a lot of volunteer boards 210 00:11:40,991 --> 00:11:43,285 and did that kind of thing with United Way 211 00:11:43,369 --> 00:11:46,080 and that ability to be a good board member 212 00:11:46,163 --> 00:11:50,084 then got her other positions on boards that actually... that paid. 213 00:11:51,377 --> 00:11:53,421 The university, the insurance company, 214 00:11:53,504 --> 00:11:54,505 the phone company... 215 00:11:55,172 --> 00:11:59,135 There's certainly no doubt that my involvement in the community 216 00:11:59,218 --> 00:12:02,304 has had a tremendous impact on the business career 217 00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:03,931 that I now have as well. 218 00:12:04,014 --> 00:12:05,015 That was my mom. 219 00:12:05,099 --> 00:12:06,934 Suit on, put together, 220 00:12:07,017 --> 00:12:09,145 briefcase, walking out the door to a meeting. 221 00:12:09,228 --> 00:12:12,606 There was a newspaper article and there was this photograph 222 00:12:12,690 --> 00:12:13,899 of a boardroom table, 223 00:12:14,567 --> 00:12:17,862 and my mom was the one woman sitting at the table. 224 00:12:20,030 --> 00:12:22,825 I think we always had the impression 225 00:12:22,908 --> 00:12:26,495 that she expected us to succeed, to be successful. 226 00:12:27,413 --> 00:12:30,791 She'd talk about, "Oh, those parents must be proud their kid's doing that," 227 00:12:30,875 --> 00:12:33,919 or, "Those parents must feel a little bad their kid's not doing that." 228 00:12:34,503 --> 00:12:36,422 She had a certain sense of values 229 00:12:36,505 --> 00:12:37,505 that were... 230 00:12:38,048 --> 00:12:42,303 uh... communicated to us in that kind of indirect way. 231 00:12:44,388 --> 00:12:45,473 She was a force. 232 00:12:49,852 --> 00:12:51,645 And she wanted 233 00:12:51,729 --> 00:12:54,023 our family to be a force. 234 00:14:01,465 --> 00:14:03,676 I did reporting in both Africa and India, 235 00:14:03,759 --> 00:14:06,303 and I remember in India at one point 236 00:14:06,387 --> 00:14:11,517 I had to pee, and so I asked the woman I'd just been interviewing, 237 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:13,769 the family I'd just spent several hours with, 238 00:14:13,853 --> 00:14:15,437 "So, you know, where can I pee?" 239 00:14:15,521 --> 00:14:19,483 And she pointed me somewhere and I realized it was taking, 240 00:14:19,567 --> 00:14:21,819 it was taking the urine in this gutter 241 00:14:21,902 --> 00:14:24,488 to where they were collecting their water to drink. 242 00:14:25,322 --> 00:14:27,116 People were defecating in the same spot. 243 00:14:28,951 --> 00:14:30,703 In many developing countries, 244 00:14:30,786 --> 00:14:34,707 people choose to go outside because they can't stand using a pit latrine, 245 00:14:35,499 --> 00:14:38,961 a hole in the ground that has a terrible smell and often overflows. 246 00:14:40,462 --> 00:14:42,172 For half the world's population, 247 00:14:42,756 --> 00:14:44,633 more than four billion people, 248 00:14:45,009 --> 00:14:46,343 there is no good option. 249 00:14:52,766 --> 00:14:56,645 There's a whole area of global development called WASH. 250 00:14:56,729 --> 00:15:00,733 So WASH stands for water, sanitation and hygiene. 251 00:15:00,816 --> 00:15:05,613 Most philanthropies that work in that space of water, sanitation, and hygiene, 252 00:15:05,696 --> 00:15:06,906 work on water. 253 00:15:06,989 --> 00:15:09,742 Like you hear a ton about water, everybody's into water. 254 00:15:09,825 --> 00:15:12,244 People say, "Oh, we need clean water." Well... 255 00:15:12,328 --> 00:15:13,913 yes, the water should be clean, 256 00:15:13,996 --> 00:15:15,998 but you can give people clean water. 257 00:15:16,081 --> 00:15:19,126 If their kids are playing in mud that has human sewage in it, 258 00:15:19,209 --> 00:15:23,797 that's where all the diarrheal infection is taking place. 259 00:15:23,881 --> 00:15:26,383 Very few philanthropies 260 00:15:26,467 --> 00:15:27,843 work on sanitation. 261 00:15:28,344 --> 00:15:31,138 So sanitationis two main things: 262 00:15:31,722 --> 00:15:34,600 toilets and sewer systems. 263 00:15:34,683 --> 00:15:39,772 They are both areas where there's been a nearly complete lack of innovation. 264 00:15:40,481 --> 00:15:43,627 So Bill went looking for people who could apply a new way of thinking 265 00:15:43,651 --> 00:15:44,652 to the problem. 266 00:15:46,487 --> 00:15:48,739 He called mechanical engineer Peter Janicki. 267 00:15:49,823 --> 00:15:51,659 I have never thought about sanitation. 268 00:15:51,742 --> 00:15:53,327 I thought about a lot of other things. 269 00:15:53,410 --> 00:15:55,579 If you visit Peter's aerospace company, 270 00:15:56,288 --> 00:15:59,667 there's a lot of technology in warehouses you're not allowed to see. 271 00:16:01,126 --> 00:16:04,338 Here, they build top secret parts for the military and more. 272 00:16:05,381 --> 00:16:07,007 So when Bill first came to me, 273 00:16:07,091 --> 00:16:09,811 and said, "Are you interested in working on this sanitation problem?" 274 00:16:11,053 --> 00:16:12,304 I thought to myself, 275 00:16:12,388 --> 00:16:13,973 "What sanitation problem? 276 00:16:14,056 --> 00:16:18,227 If there's anything that we've solved, in my opinion, it's sanitation." 277 00:16:19,228 --> 00:16:22,147 Most of us don't think about what happens after we flush. 278 00:16:22,231 --> 00:16:25,526 Clean water fills the bowl, dirty water gets flushed. 279 00:16:26,318 --> 00:16:29,238 Flushed water travels through a complex network of pipes 280 00:16:29,905 --> 00:16:31,281 and arrives at a treatment center. 281 00:16:31,824 --> 00:16:34,368 There, the water goes through things like a grit chamber... 282 00:16:36,370 --> 00:16:39,790 ...gravity belt thickener, and a sludge digester. 283 00:16:41,583 --> 00:16:43,168 All to produce safe water. 284 00:16:45,546 --> 00:16:48,215 You start looking at the United States and the population, 285 00:16:48,298 --> 00:16:49,675 it's a big country, 286 00:16:49,758 --> 00:16:51,802 and there's actually not that many people live here. 287 00:16:52,344 --> 00:16:54,221 Three hundred million people in America. 288 00:16:54,304 --> 00:16:56,223 Then you start looking at these other countries. 289 00:16:56,306 --> 00:16:59,685 They have ten times the population density that we have. 290 00:17:00,227 --> 00:17:01,907 And everybody wants to do what we're doing. 291 00:17:04,314 --> 00:17:07,609 If you build slums without putting the piping in, 292 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:09,778 going back in, getting the water, 293 00:17:10,612 --> 00:17:11,822 building the piping, 294 00:17:11,905 --> 00:17:14,616 it would be tens of billions for a single city 295 00:17:15,284 --> 00:17:17,911 to go in and build up modern sanitation. 296 00:17:17,995 --> 00:17:21,999 It is not a system that will ever scale down to very poor countries. 297 00:17:23,125 --> 00:17:25,377 Even if they could afford to modernize, 298 00:17:25,461 --> 00:17:28,380 that solution requires way too much energy and water. 299 00:17:29,339 --> 00:17:32,634 So we have a pit in the ground that smells so bad 300 00:17:32,718 --> 00:17:33,998 that it makes you wanna throw up 301 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:36,597 or we have multi-million dollar waste water treatment plants. 302 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,641 Those are our two solutions. We're like, "Okay, this is the way it is. 303 00:17:39,725 --> 00:17:40,725 Get used to it." 304 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Bill wondered what it would take 305 00:17:43,604 --> 00:17:46,607 to reimagine both toilets and sewage systems. 306 00:17:46,690 --> 00:17:48,609 What if you can fund inventors 307 00:17:49,651 --> 00:17:52,362 that could come up with something that's a tenth the cost? 308 00:17:52,988 --> 00:17:54,448 You know, that's pretty magical. 309 00:17:55,157 --> 00:17:58,368 And you end up saving millions of lives. 310 00:18:01,997 --> 00:18:03,749 When I was six years old... 311 00:18:05,667 --> 00:18:07,294 I can still remember my dad 312 00:18:07,961 --> 00:18:10,589 telling me about the death of one of my brothers. 313 00:18:12,424 --> 00:18:14,968 And then, at nine years old, 314 00:18:15,052 --> 00:18:16,220 uh... 315 00:18:17,346 --> 00:18:18,346 two more. 316 00:18:19,098 --> 00:18:20,307 And then later, 317 00:18:20,849 --> 00:18:21,849 one more. 318 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:30,359 I was big enough to understand what it means to lose... 319 00:18:31,735 --> 00:18:32,861 to lose siblings. 320 00:18:34,029 --> 00:18:35,155 And... 321 00:18:36,406 --> 00:18:37,407 yeah. 322 00:18:39,368 --> 00:18:42,329 I eventually end up going to the university. 323 00:18:42,955 --> 00:18:45,582 I started learning why people die. 324 00:18:46,208 --> 00:18:48,210 That was the time I realized, yeah, 325 00:18:48,293 --> 00:18:51,046 people die because of very preventable diseases. 326 00:18:52,297 --> 00:18:53,297 It was like a hit. 327 00:18:55,092 --> 00:18:57,761 I was lucky. I was still alive. 328 00:18:58,345 --> 00:18:59,429 So... 329 00:19:00,389 --> 00:19:01,389 What could I do? 330 00:19:01,431 --> 00:19:03,767 Doulaye left his village in Côte D'Ivoire 331 00:19:03,851 --> 00:19:06,478 and moved to Belgium to study sanitary engineering. 332 00:19:07,312 --> 00:19:11,400 But at the university, he realized that everyone talked about improvements 333 00:19:11,483 --> 00:19:13,735 that would only work in developed countries. 334 00:19:14,653 --> 00:19:18,657 I could never imagine those things working in the places I was coming from. 335 00:19:18,949 --> 00:19:22,327 I had started really questioning all the professors. 336 00:19:23,370 --> 00:19:25,414 And asked them, "Can you create new solution?" 337 00:19:25,914 --> 00:19:28,458 For a decade, Doulaye couldn't find anyone willing 338 00:19:28,542 --> 00:19:29,543 to answer that question. 339 00:19:30,586 --> 00:19:32,296 And then, he got an email, 340 00:19:32,921 --> 00:19:34,923 inviting him to meet Bill at the foundation. 341 00:19:36,592 --> 00:19:38,510 The only thing I knew was... 342 00:19:39,428 --> 00:19:42,181 he started Microsoft, he was very successful. 343 00:19:43,599 --> 00:19:46,727 Why in the world someone like this want to talk about 344 00:19:47,144 --> 00:19:49,271 fecal sludge, pit latrine, and toilet? 345 00:19:50,772 --> 00:19:53,901 Finally, Doulaye found someone in the western world 346 00:19:53,984 --> 00:19:56,778 who understood what he knew from experience. 347 00:19:56,862 --> 00:19:58,864 It was the first time in my life 348 00:19:58,947 --> 00:20:03,785 that conversation was not about whether it is difficult to solve. 349 00:20:05,787 --> 00:20:08,457 The conversation was about why it doesn't work. 350 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,126 What have you tried? 351 00:20:11,877 --> 00:20:14,004 What have we never dared to try? 352 00:20:14,588 --> 00:20:17,758 Bill and Doulaye spent hours posing all sorts of questions. 353 00:20:18,508 --> 00:20:21,053 Could a toilet not only collect waste, 354 00:20:21,136 --> 00:20:22,596 but turn it into fuel? 355 00:20:23,889 --> 00:20:25,682 Would burning poop inside the toilet 356 00:20:26,266 --> 00:20:28,769 create enough energy for it to run itself? 357 00:20:29,394 --> 00:20:32,105 Would it be possible for a toilet to work 358 00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,608 without pipes or even outside water? 359 00:20:39,571 --> 00:20:41,490 We came to a conclusion that... 360 00:20:42,491 --> 00:20:43,700 it would be possible. 361 00:20:44,868 --> 00:20:47,621 Bill knew there was still one big question left to answer. 362 00:20:48,163 --> 00:20:50,457 How could he transform their scribbles on a whiteboard 363 00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:52,793 into something that actually works? 364 00:20:54,378 --> 00:20:55,879 Measure What Matters, 365 00:20:55,963 --> 00:20:57,506 The Vaccine Race, 366 00:20:57,589 --> 00:20:59,174 Haiti Prioritizes, 367 00:20:59,591 --> 00:21:01,927 Blockchain Revolution, Strength in Stillness, 368 00:21:02,010 --> 00:21:04,012 Inventions That Changed the World, 369 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,474 How to Make a Mind, Fundamentals of Deep Learning... 370 00:21:07,557 --> 00:21:10,602 ...Quantum Mechanics and Algorithms, 371 00:21:11,144 --> 00:21:13,522 The Book of Why, Bad Blood, 372 00:21:13,605 --> 00:21:14,898 Life 3.0... 373 00:21:16,108 --> 00:21:17,442 Educated, 374 00:21:17,526 --> 00:21:18,526 To Be a Machine, 375 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:20,445 The Perfect Weapon... 376 00:21:20,821 --> 00:21:21,697 Elastic. 377 00:21:21,780 --> 00:21:23,580 And how often are you packing this? 378 00:21:23,615 --> 00:21:25,909 This gets refreshed on a weekly basis. 379 00:21:25,993 --> 00:21:29,288 It gets packed and cleaned for every trip he does, certainly, 380 00:21:29,371 --> 00:21:31,164 because he has more time to read 381 00:21:31,248 --> 00:21:34,251 while he's traveling for his work for the foundation. 382 00:21:34,334 --> 00:21:37,296 - So this goes everywhere with him? - This goes everywhere with him. 383 00:21:38,380 --> 00:21:40,841 He is joyous about learning things, 384 00:21:40,924 --> 00:21:42,404 like no one I've ever met in my life. 385 00:21:42,467 --> 00:21:44,428 He doesn't read one book about something, 386 00:21:44,511 --> 00:21:46,763 he'll read, like, five books about something. 387 00:21:47,347 --> 00:21:50,225 Most of which are too dense for any mortal to read, right? 388 00:21:50,309 --> 00:21:54,438 And he reads really fast and synthesizes really well. 389 00:21:54,521 --> 00:21:56,231 The most amazing thing is 390 00:21:56,815 --> 00:22:00,694 he almost always knows more 391 00:22:00,777 --> 00:22:04,114 than the other person he's talking to about whatever it is, it's unbelievable. 392 00:22:04,740 --> 00:22:07,617 When I've been with him on vacation, he'll read 14 books. 393 00:22:08,702 --> 00:22:11,288 That's a gift, you know, to read 150 pages an hour. 394 00:22:12,372 --> 00:22:14,416 I'm gonna say it's 90 percent retention. 395 00:22:14,916 --> 00:22:16,168 Kind of extraordinary. 396 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,629 One thing about Bill is he is a multi-processor. 397 00:22:19,713 --> 00:22:23,216 He'll be reading something else but then processing at the same time. 398 00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:25,052 And when he's off reading, you think, 399 00:22:25,135 --> 00:22:27,095 "Hey, you could have gone to bed an hour earlier," 400 00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:30,057 that's actually when he's working out some of his emotional life. 401 00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:34,614 What do you remember about him? 402 00:22:35,020 --> 00:22:36,063 I remember thinking: 403 00:22:36,146 --> 00:22:38,106 he's kind of weird. 404 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:40,192 And his friends are weird. 405 00:22:40,275 --> 00:22:41,777 They're kind of nerdy 406 00:22:41,860 --> 00:22:44,112 and they think differently than me. 407 00:22:44,780 --> 00:22:47,491 My brother was happy to be locked in his room for hours 408 00:22:47,657 --> 00:22:49,409 focusing on one thing or another. 409 00:22:49,910 --> 00:22:53,163 When you're ten and you're walking into his room, what do you see? 410 00:22:53,246 --> 00:22:54,790 Um, I see a mess. 411 00:22:55,707 --> 00:22:58,293 I see a mess, a total mass, books all over the place. 412 00:22:58,877 --> 00:23:00,712 I think left to his own devices, 413 00:23:00,796 --> 00:23:03,632 he might have stayed in his room 414 00:23:03,715 --> 00:23:05,884 and read books all day long. 415 00:23:07,928 --> 00:23:10,889 You could just see that he was different. 416 00:23:13,809 --> 00:23:17,187 I don't think he perceived himself as being different. 417 00:23:17,896 --> 00:23:22,067 I don't know how much he was in touch with what was... 418 00:23:22,776 --> 00:23:24,111 more normal, 419 00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:27,280 just 'cause he was so introverted. 420 00:23:29,116 --> 00:23:31,201 He wants to be in his room and do what? 421 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:32,410 Um... 422 00:23:32,619 --> 00:23:34,246 Chew pencils. 423 00:23:38,291 --> 00:23:39,876 He was just thinking. 424 00:23:40,377 --> 00:23:42,254 Pondering. 425 00:23:45,841 --> 00:23:49,302 My mom had a hard time getting him to do things. 426 00:23:50,554 --> 00:23:52,848 They had a really rocky relationship. 427 00:23:53,515 --> 00:23:56,810 She couldn't get to him. 428 00:24:02,274 --> 00:24:04,901 My parents' authority seemed arbitrary. 429 00:24:05,861 --> 00:24:08,405 I really didn't want to follow their rules. 430 00:24:08,947 --> 00:24:12,284 I would not speak for days at a time. 431 00:24:14,995 --> 00:24:17,330 I felt like I was in some struggle. 432 00:24:19,249 --> 00:24:20,750 Does Bill get frustrated? 433 00:24:21,084 --> 00:24:22,127 Oh, yes. 434 00:24:22,544 --> 00:24:24,421 Yeah, he's fierce, he is fierce. 435 00:24:24,754 --> 00:24:28,300 It's scary. I mean, he gets like really frustrated. 436 00:24:30,886 --> 00:24:33,221 Bill wrote to the most prestigious universities 437 00:24:33,763 --> 00:24:36,243 asking them to think about fixing the world's toilet problem... 438 00:24:37,017 --> 00:24:39,561 so that together they could begin saving lives. 439 00:24:42,272 --> 00:24:44,733 Most didn't bother to reply. 440 00:24:51,907 --> 00:24:54,117 When he's frustrated, it's, 441 00:24:54,201 --> 00:24:55,952 "Let's go faster." 442 00:24:57,162 --> 00:24:58,580 "Let's solve the problems. 443 00:24:58,663 --> 00:25:01,708 And let's figure out what's between us and victory." 444 00:25:05,253 --> 00:25:07,672 What is the longest you've played on a single day? 445 00:25:08,798 --> 00:25:10,008 Oh, eight hours. 446 00:25:10,091 --> 00:25:11,843 - Eight hours? - Eight or nine. 447 00:25:11,927 --> 00:25:14,489 What's the hottest you've played, what temperature you've played in? 448 00:25:14,513 --> 00:25:15,430 A hundred and six. 449 00:25:15,514 --> 00:25:17,224 Who first taught you how to play tennis? 450 00:25:17,307 --> 00:25:18,683 Uh, my parents. 451 00:25:18,767 --> 00:25:20,560 In the summers we played. 452 00:25:20,644 --> 00:25:23,063 We came up and went to Hood Canal and... 453 00:25:23,980 --> 00:25:26,816 They wanted us to do all the sports, 454 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:28,985 so even baseball, 455 00:25:29,569 --> 00:25:31,238 swimming... 456 00:25:31,363 --> 00:25:32,197 ...football. 457 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,199 Favorite memory from Camp Cheerio. 458 00:25:35,116 --> 00:25:37,035 Uh, you know, having my dad... 459 00:25:37,786 --> 00:25:38,828 who's the mayor... 460 00:25:39,871 --> 00:25:41,581 lead the singing march. 461 00:25:41,665 --> 00:25:44,876 We had a lot of songs, but the theme song was 462 00:25:45,877 --> 00:25:46,877 from the... 463 00:25:47,546 --> 00:25:49,381 Bridge Over the River Kwai song, it was... 464 00:25:49,464 --> 00:25:51,675 ♪ March on the road to Cheerio ♪ 465 00:25:53,677 --> 00:25:54,761 ♪ Here we go ♪ 466 00:25:54,970 --> 00:25:57,222 ♪ Time for a real sensation ♪ 467 00:25:57,389 --> 00:25:59,683 ♪ At the place that we all know ♪ 468 00:25:59,766 --> 00:26:01,268 ♪ Pam-pa-ram-pa-ram-pa ♪ 469 00:26:03,562 --> 00:26:05,456 Why do you love that so much? 470 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,025 Well, just because I was a kid and those were good times. 471 00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:12,821 We'd go with nine or ten different families 472 00:26:12,904 --> 00:26:14,781 and we'd rent out the whole resort. 473 00:26:17,450 --> 00:26:18,770 This tradition of Cheerio 474 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,037 was built around games. 475 00:26:22,247 --> 00:26:24,332 There was a tennis tournament for the adults. 476 00:26:25,750 --> 00:26:27,919 There were Olympic games for the kids. 477 00:26:29,045 --> 00:26:31,089 There was a gunny sack race, 478 00:26:31,339 --> 00:26:32,549 there was a running race, 479 00:26:32,632 --> 00:26:34,884 there was an obstacle course, carry an egg on a spoon. 480 00:26:35,844 --> 00:26:38,930 Nothing fancy, but definitely competitive. 481 00:26:47,856 --> 00:26:48,856 Oh, no. 482 00:26:49,441 --> 00:26:50,441 Almost. 483 00:26:51,693 --> 00:26:53,987 Bill knew that the best and brightest engineers 484 00:26:54,070 --> 00:26:56,615 are too often focused on well-funded projects 485 00:26:56,698 --> 00:27:00,160 for business and the military. 486 00:27:00,243 --> 00:27:03,413 So he had to find a way to get them to think about toilets. 487 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:05,790 At Cheerio... 488 00:27:06,666 --> 00:27:09,586 getting your spot on the podium was really important. 489 00:27:13,506 --> 00:27:14,758 He wanted to win. 490 00:27:15,175 --> 00:27:16,468 Through that. 491 00:27:17,344 --> 00:27:19,344 My brother happens to be very competitive. 492 00:27:20,889 --> 00:27:23,183 But I think that competitive thing 493 00:27:23,767 --> 00:27:25,560 got him going. 494 00:27:28,271 --> 00:27:29,271 Nice. 495 00:27:32,609 --> 00:27:34,736 Bill went back to eight universities. 496 00:27:36,154 --> 00:27:39,115 But instead of asking them to present their designs in private... 497 00:27:42,535 --> 00:27:44,496 he had another idea. 498 00:27:44,663 --> 00:27:46,831 The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation 499 00:27:46,915 --> 00:27:49,542 is leading a competition to invent a new toilet that doesn't... 500 00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:52,420 From technology to toilets, Bill Gates and his wife... 501 00:27:52,504 --> 00:27:55,131 This wasn't a day for your everyday throne. 502 00:27:55,215 --> 00:27:57,652 Microsoft mogul Bill Gates is looking for ways 503 00:27:57,676 --> 00:28:00,261 to flush out contaminated drinking water around the world. 504 00:28:00,345 --> 00:28:02,265 Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation 505 00:28:02,305 --> 00:28:04,025 is offering nearly seven million dollars... 506 00:28:04,057 --> 00:28:07,078 All entrants must operate without running water, electricity, 507 00:28:07,102 --> 00:28:08,186 or a septic system. 508 00:28:08,269 --> 00:28:10,772 The foundation expects to use prototypes within the next... 509 00:28:10,855 --> 00:28:12,535 Prototypes include a toilet 510 00:28:12,565 --> 00:28:13,900 that uses microwave energy 511 00:28:13,983 --> 00:28:16,069 to turn human waste into electricity... 512 00:28:16,152 --> 00:28:18,905 Some bottles turn urine into water for flushing 513 00:28:18,988 --> 00:28:21,116 or used insects to eat it. 514 00:28:21,199 --> 00:28:24,199 The maggot is not a very choosy thing when it comes to what it wants to eat. 515 00:28:27,288 --> 00:28:30,333 Even Bill was amazed by just how audacious these ideas were. 516 00:28:37,006 --> 00:28:40,593 But he also knew it would take years for even one to become a reality. 517 00:28:41,469 --> 00:28:43,638 And still, every day, 518 00:28:43,930 --> 00:28:44,973 thousands were dying. 519 00:28:46,641 --> 00:28:49,269 You have pit latrines in communities, 520 00:28:49,853 --> 00:28:51,438 and eventually they fill up. 521 00:28:51,521 --> 00:28:53,041 Now what do you do with this material? 522 00:28:53,106 --> 00:28:55,859 It's absolutely full of pathogens. 523 00:28:56,568 --> 00:28:57,902 And they have no place to put it. 524 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240 It's gotta go to a sewer treatment plant. 525 00:29:02,323 --> 00:29:05,118 In other parts of the world, modern sewage treatment 526 00:29:05,201 --> 00:29:06,578 simply doesn't exist... 527 00:29:06,828 --> 00:29:08,037 even in urban areas. 528 00:29:08,163 --> 00:29:09,283 I traveled and I saw 529 00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:11,124 a whole bunch of wastewater treatment plants. 530 00:29:11,207 --> 00:29:12,792 None of them were running. 531 00:29:13,752 --> 00:29:15,253 The sewer was just going around them. 532 00:29:15,336 --> 00:29:17,297 They build them but they can't afford to run them. 533 00:29:19,299 --> 00:29:22,635 In Dakar, most human waste pours into canals 534 00:29:22,719 --> 00:29:24,554 that flow directly into the Hann Bay. 535 00:29:26,139 --> 00:29:29,476 There, infectious diseases spread at alarming rates. 536 00:29:35,064 --> 00:29:37,650 Just as Bill asked Doulaye to help him reinvent the toilet, 537 00:29:38,735 --> 00:29:41,488 he wondered if Peter could help invent a new treatment plant. 538 00:29:42,530 --> 00:29:43,865 One that doesn't waste water, 539 00:29:44,574 --> 00:29:46,284 or require a lot of energy. 540 00:29:46,618 --> 00:29:49,204 I was a little bit discouraged at first because... 541 00:29:50,038 --> 00:29:52,078 I couldn't think of a technical solution. 542 00:29:52,415 --> 00:29:54,375 A lot of people were looking at filtration. 543 00:29:54,459 --> 00:29:56,259 They were like, "I gotta filter this somehow." 544 00:29:56,336 --> 00:29:59,547 And in my view, you can't filter something 545 00:29:59,631 --> 00:30:01,800 that's so radically different every time. 546 00:30:07,013 --> 00:30:09,098 So this is, uh, sewer sludge. 547 00:30:09,808 --> 00:30:11,288 What do you think's growing in there? 548 00:30:12,018 --> 00:30:13,018 Tomatoes. 549 00:30:13,812 --> 00:30:14,812 You know why? 550 00:30:15,271 --> 00:30:16,648 Because people eat tomatoes. 551 00:30:17,232 --> 00:30:18,858 And the seeds go through the person 552 00:30:18,942 --> 00:30:20,068 and they end up here. 553 00:30:21,569 --> 00:30:23,029 Looks like it's pretty dry. 554 00:30:27,575 --> 00:30:30,575 Believe it or not, there's actually a lot of really good stuff in... 555 00:30:30,620 --> 00:30:31,620 in shit. 556 00:30:31,704 --> 00:30:33,122 There's a lot of water. 557 00:30:33,206 --> 00:30:34,958 And so I started looking at it, saying, 558 00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:36,543 "I can boil it." 559 00:30:38,711 --> 00:30:41,548 Bill and Peter knew that boiling poop would generate steam, 560 00:30:42,090 --> 00:30:44,250 and that steam generates energy... 561 00:30:44,509 --> 00:30:47,053 ...and energy is necessary to power a sewage system. 562 00:30:48,555 --> 00:30:52,684 But what if a treatment center could use poop to power itself forever? 563 00:30:54,978 --> 00:30:56,521 "And just maybe," they asked... 564 00:30:57,689 --> 00:31:00,817 "could that steam produce clean, drinkable water?" 565 00:31:06,030 --> 00:31:08,384 So, by the time you were 12, things got really bad 566 00:31:08,408 --> 00:31:09,576 with your mother, right? 567 00:31:09,909 --> 00:31:12,912 Yeah, I definitely gave my mom a hard time 568 00:31:12,996 --> 00:31:15,790 not following along with what she wanted 569 00:31:15,874 --> 00:31:18,042 and really trying to detach myself. 570 00:31:18,126 --> 00:31:20,479 And what... So how did you express that frustration? 571 00:31:20,503 --> 00:31:22,463 Oh, just disobedience, disrespect. 572 00:31:22,547 --> 00:31:24,924 I mean, it's kind of embarrassing to think about it... 573 00:31:25,425 --> 00:31:26,426 now. 574 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,947 In an argument over dinner... 575 00:31:29,971 --> 00:31:32,974 ...Bill shouted at his mother in what he describes today as 576 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,936 "Utter, totally sarcastic, smart-ass kid rudeness." 577 00:31:37,645 --> 00:31:40,732 In a rare burst of anger, Bill's dad threw a glass of water at Bill's face. 578 00:31:41,649 --> 00:31:43,329 They actually got some counseling. 579 00:31:43,401 --> 00:31:46,112 They pretended that it was a whole family problem 580 00:31:46,195 --> 00:31:47,530 and we all went. 581 00:31:47,614 --> 00:31:51,284 Um, but then it became clear that it was my mother and my brother. 582 00:31:54,037 --> 00:31:55,413 I said to him, "Hey, 583 00:31:55,496 --> 00:31:57,290 I'm at war with my parents. 584 00:31:57,373 --> 00:31:59,250 I don't know if you can help me or not." 585 00:31:59,334 --> 00:32:02,337 And he said, "Well, that's it's not a very fair war. 586 00:32:03,129 --> 00:32:05,298 You're gonna inflict more pain on them 587 00:32:05,381 --> 00:32:06,633 than they inflict on you. 588 00:32:07,216 --> 00:32:08,801 And they're really on your side." 589 00:32:08,885 --> 00:32:12,764 So, you know, I'm... Basically, I had the wrong way of looking at things. 590 00:32:12,847 --> 00:32:14,950 It took him about three months to convince me of that, 591 00:32:14,974 --> 00:32:16,267 but it was brilliant. 592 00:32:16,351 --> 00:32:19,511 I think it was sorta, "At some point, you've gotta let your mother have her way. 593 00:32:20,146 --> 00:32:23,191 That's just the way life is and you've gotta let your mother have her way." 594 00:32:26,444 --> 00:32:27,904 The real question was how 595 00:32:28,488 --> 00:32:30,073 I would do in the real world. 596 00:32:32,992 --> 00:32:36,454 Pushing up against them where they really cared about me, 597 00:32:36,537 --> 00:32:38,623 that wasn't the real world. 598 00:32:39,290 --> 00:32:43,795 She was intentional about creating opportunities for him to be social. 599 00:32:43,878 --> 00:32:44,754 I mean, for example, 600 00:32:44,837 --> 00:32:48,967 when my dad would go to American Bar Association meetings, 601 00:32:49,509 --> 00:32:50,969 they would have him come 602 00:32:51,052 --> 00:32:53,763 and be a greeter or do something 603 00:32:53,846 --> 00:32:56,057 that forced that engagement. 604 00:32:57,225 --> 00:32:58,559 Even at Cheerio 605 00:32:59,185 --> 00:33:01,521 there were sort of beautifully engineered interactions 606 00:33:01,604 --> 00:33:04,148 between the children and the parents. 607 00:33:04,232 --> 00:33:08,069 One of the things that the parents would organize is a drawing to see 608 00:33:08,403 --> 00:33:10,488 whose house you would go to for dinners. 609 00:33:10,571 --> 00:33:12,824 So you had to learn to follow their rules, 610 00:33:12,907 --> 00:33:15,702 eat their food, and socialize. 611 00:33:19,247 --> 00:33:22,375 So if your parents had left him alone and not forced him to deal 612 00:33:22,458 --> 00:33:23,458 in the real world, 613 00:33:24,043 --> 00:33:25,670 do you think he'd be the same guy? 614 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,839 I don't think so. 615 00:33:27,922 --> 00:33:30,049 You don't know, but I don't think so. 616 00:33:30,133 --> 00:33:32,593 I think my parents had a lot to do... 617 00:33:33,428 --> 00:33:34,971 with how he turned out. 618 00:33:35,054 --> 00:33:38,266 Please welcome Mr. Bill Gates. 619 00:33:49,027 --> 00:33:51,587 So it's viable they could get it value engineered down. 620 00:33:52,405 --> 00:33:56,075 It's not out of the realm that they could get it to the price point that we want. 621 00:33:56,659 --> 00:33:59,996 There critical challenge there is with the heat exchanger, 622 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:01,330 is the heat recovery. 623 00:34:01,414 --> 00:34:05,376 So we are really looking at the best company in the world 624 00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:06,711 who have expertise in that. 625 00:34:06,794 --> 00:34:09,255 Do you see there being just one manufacturer 626 00:34:09,338 --> 00:34:11,382 ultimately in China or multiples? 627 00:34:12,008 --> 00:34:13,968 The way they're structured... 628 00:34:14,052 --> 00:34:15,178 Melinda brings... 629 00:34:15,803 --> 00:34:16,804 just a great... 630 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,849 different point of view that makes you more effective. 631 00:34:20,433 --> 00:34:22,435 Yeah, well, she's totally my partner. 632 00:34:22,518 --> 00:34:25,118 There's real partners and there's superficial partners. 633 00:34:25,646 --> 00:34:27,565 And you chose to make her a real partner. 634 00:34:27,648 --> 00:34:30,610 No, she's a real partner. 'Cause she is, you know, totally... 635 00:34:31,861 --> 00:34:33,780 equal in how we do these things. 636 00:34:34,447 --> 00:34:38,493 We weren't quite there yet when he left Microsoft, to be frank. 637 00:34:38,576 --> 00:34:40,078 'Cause he'd run the company, right? 638 00:34:40,161 --> 00:34:42,580 He was the CEO of the company and the chairman of the board. 639 00:34:43,623 --> 00:34:44,874 I knew he was for it, 640 00:34:44,957 --> 00:34:48,169 we just needed to change a few of our ways of working together. 641 00:34:49,212 --> 00:34:51,964 It doesn't feel like there's any inequality. 642 00:34:52,048 --> 00:34:54,809 You know, even though he's the one that started Microsoft and not her. 643 00:34:54,842 --> 00:34:56,482 Like he appreciates everything about her, 644 00:34:56,552 --> 00:34:59,347 as opposed to, like, complaining about her or something. 645 00:34:59,430 --> 00:35:01,724 I've never heard him complain about her. 646 00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:04,688 He's the only person I know who I've never heard complain about his wife. 647 00:35:06,604 --> 00:35:08,397 I was good at math in high school. 648 00:35:08,481 --> 00:35:12,110 My high school teacher decided to go to the head principal 649 00:35:12,193 --> 00:35:14,987 when she saw these Apple computers at a conference. 650 00:35:15,071 --> 00:35:17,671 So we started programming in high school. 651 00:35:18,324 --> 00:35:20,368 Between math and puzzles, which I love both, 652 00:35:20,451 --> 00:35:23,162 it was like this whole puzzle, and I just loved it. 653 00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:28,209 I started working at Microsoft in 1983, 654 00:35:28,751 --> 00:35:32,296 and in '87, we hired seven MBAs, 655 00:35:32,380 --> 00:35:33,840 six guys and her. 656 00:35:33,923 --> 00:35:37,677 And she had gone to Duke and gotten a degree in computer science 657 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,512 and an MBA in five years. 658 00:35:40,179 --> 00:35:44,976 So the other people in this "pledge class" of MBA's were all like 26 years old. 659 00:35:45,059 --> 00:35:48,688 She was maybe 22 and a half, right, and she was the only woman. 660 00:35:48,771 --> 00:35:52,275 Within a very short time, Melinda was running her own division, 661 00:35:52,358 --> 00:35:54,193 overseeing hundreds of people. 662 00:35:54,277 --> 00:35:55,695 In the consumer division, 663 00:35:55,778 --> 00:35:58,573 we were trying to think through the human experience, 664 00:35:58,698 --> 00:35:59,949 the user experience. 665 00:36:00,032 --> 00:36:03,327 Bill has amazing scientists 666 00:36:03,411 --> 00:36:06,497 and innovative ideas for getting new toilet technology. 667 00:36:06,581 --> 00:36:08,749 It will absolute change the developing world. 668 00:36:08,833 --> 00:36:11,127 But if they can't think about 669 00:36:11,210 --> 00:36:14,922 the experience of, a mom is the one who takes her child to the toilet... 670 00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:16,340 The moms tell me in the villages, 671 00:36:16,424 --> 00:36:19,010 "If men can see over the wall, I'm not going in there. 672 00:36:19,093 --> 00:36:20,678 It's not safe and it's not private. 673 00:36:21,179 --> 00:36:24,056 If I can't take my child into the little stall with me 674 00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:26,267 it doesn't work, I can't leave the child outside." 675 00:36:27,018 --> 00:36:30,521 That's where I'm willing to be a bit of grist with Bill. I'll poke him a bit. 676 00:36:30,605 --> 00:36:32,940 Like, "Well, how are you thinking about this piece 677 00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:34,901 and how are you thinking about that?" 678 00:36:35,067 --> 00:36:37,153 We listen and respect each other 679 00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:41,365 and then we come to a common viewpoint, and that's what we take forward. 680 00:36:41,949 --> 00:36:44,785 And what are you hoping to get out of the toilet fair 681 00:36:44,869 --> 00:36:46,704 this time that's gonna happen in China? 682 00:36:47,079 --> 00:36:50,082 At the last one there was a bit of, "We're still in a science mode." 683 00:36:50,166 --> 00:36:51,751 - Mmm. - Could this work? 684 00:36:53,794 --> 00:36:57,006 Our hope is to show enough momentum that that's no longer the question. 685 00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:02,578 When you arrive, you will be straight on the stage 686 00:37:03,221 --> 00:37:04,889 to deliver your keynote. 687 00:37:04,972 --> 00:37:08,684 This is going to be a very big historic moment. 688 00:37:11,229 --> 00:37:12,605 At the top of page three, 689 00:37:13,231 --> 00:37:14,941 underneath the lectern 690 00:37:15,024 --> 00:37:18,110 there is a shelf with the, uh... 691 00:37:19,445 --> 00:37:20,279 the poop prop. 692 00:37:20,363 --> 00:37:22,323 So you'll be standing there and it's... 693 00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:24,492 it's just right under there. 694 00:37:24,575 --> 00:37:25,575 Okay. 695 00:37:32,375 --> 00:37:34,175 Can you say a few words for me please? 696 00:37:34,669 --> 00:37:38,130 I'm trying this strange microphone. 697 00:37:38,214 --> 00:37:39,214 You got that? 698 00:37:39,924 --> 00:37:41,133 Thumbs up. Thank you. 699 00:37:41,884 --> 00:37:45,221 There's two bottles of water in the podium that have already been cracked. 700 00:37:46,097 --> 00:37:47,723 Do they look different than the feces? 701 00:37:47,848 --> 00:37:50,101 They're on the bottom shelf. 702 00:37:50,184 --> 00:37:51,224 He didn't get that. 703 00:37:51,269 --> 00:37:52,561 Believe me, that was a... 704 00:37:52,645 --> 00:37:54,981 Do I set 'em there? Because then nobody wants them. 705 00:37:55,606 --> 00:37:57,166 So they're on the bottom shelf. 706 00:37:58,693 --> 00:38:01,133 And we've been working all these years to fund 707 00:38:01,195 --> 00:38:03,489 the early stage research. 708 00:38:03,572 --> 00:38:06,701 Now's the time to take it and drive it to maturity. 709 00:38:09,662 --> 00:38:12,415 Six years after the first toilet fair, 710 00:38:12,498 --> 00:38:14,667 the engineers have refined their early prototypes. 711 00:38:17,211 --> 00:38:19,380 What began as a brainstorm on a whiteboard 712 00:38:19,463 --> 00:38:20,923 had finally come to life. 713 00:38:22,633 --> 00:38:26,012 This toilet utilizes a screw to separate urine from feces. 714 00:38:27,638 --> 00:38:30,516 Burning the waste generates energy to power the screw. 715 00:38:31,726 --> 00:38:32,935 All that's left... 716 00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:35,438 a small pile of ash. 717 00:38:38,607 --> 00:38:41,694 This squat toilet dries then burns waste 718 00:38:41,777 --> 00:38:43,946 to create heat that disinfects the urine. 719 00:38:46,407 --> 00:38:48,117 And this one is powered by solar panels, 720 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,245 and uses an oxygen composting process. 721 00:38:51,871 --> 00:38:55,333 The by-products: fertilizer and water for flushing. 722 00:38:55,833 --> 00:38:58,377 We really do see ourselves on a cusp 723 00:38:58,461 --> 00:39:00,087 of a sanitation revolution. 724 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,842 Many of these toilets require no outside electricity or plumbing. 725 00:39:05,718 --> 00:39:09,263 And they were ready to replace the pit latrine forever. 726 00:39:09,347 --> 00:39:10,848 But the capital cost? 727 00:39:10,931 --> 00:39:14,643 For the time being, about $50,000, uh, US dollars. 728 00:39:14,727 --> 00:39:17,813 The cost of this now is around, uh, 50,000. 729 00:39:18,647 --> 00:39:20,191 For all the progress, 730 00:39:20,274 --> 00:39:23,110 Bill knew that a $50,000 toilet was way out of reach. 731 00:39:23,736 --> 00:39:27,615 This thing's gonna have to cost less than $500. 732 00:39:27,698 --> 00:39:31,327 And right now we're more than ten times greater than that. 733 00:39:32,161 --> 00:39:33,204 The solution: 734 00:39:33,746 --> 00:39:37,833 find a partner in this room to manufacture it and bring the cost down. 735 00:39:39,001 --> 00:39:41,087 I brought a little exhibit here. 736 00:39:41,170 --> 00:39:43,297 This is a... 737 00:39:44,006 --> 00:39:46,008 container of human feces. 738 00:39:46,092 --> 00:39:49,220 Inside there could be over 200 million 739 00:39:49,303 --> 00:39:51,597 rotavirus particles, 740 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,100 twenty billion shigella bacteria, 741 00:39:54,183 --> 00:39:57,103 and a hundred thousand parasitic worm eggs. 742 00:39:57,186 --> 00:39:59,105 That's what kids, when they're out playing, 743 00:39:59,188 --> 00:40:01,148 they're being exposed to all the time. 744 00:40:02,691 --> 00:40:05,528 If he failed, it would be seven years of work 745 00:40:05,903 --> 00:40:08,906 and 200 million dollars wasted. 746 00:40:13,786 --> 00:40:15,955 As a businessman, what are your blindsides? 747 00:40:16,038 --> 00:40:19,917 What are the moments that you feel like, "Oh, this is what I'm not so good at"? 748 00:40:20,835 --> 00:40:26,006 Well, innovation-based businesses are the only ones that I bring anything... 749 00:40:27,007 --> 00:40:27,842 to it all. 750 00:40:30,177 --> 00:40:33,681 I like to push the level of risk of doing things 751 00:40:34,265 --> 00:40:35,850 that wouldn't happen 752 00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:37,643 without leadership and vision. 753 00:40:38,144 --> 00:40:40,020 In only 18 months, 754 00:40:40,104 --> 00:40:42,440 Peter and his team were able to build a working prototype 755 00:40:42,523 --> 00:40:44,233 of a stand-alone treatment plant. 756 00:40:44,733 --> 00:40:46,944 They called it the Omni Processor. 757 00:40:47,027 --> 00:40:49,822 And the machine worked exactly the way they imagined it would. 758 00:40:49,905 --> 00:40:52,783 So this is the solution when, you empty pit latrines, 759 00:40:52,867 --> 00:40:54,910 and instead of dumping all this stuff in the river, 760 00:40:54,994 --> 00:40:57,288 you bring it to a centralized Omni Processor. 761 00:40:59,915 --> 00:41:01,167 It evaporates the water, 762 00:41:01,250 --> 00:41:03,669 solids go into a fire, 763 00:41:03,752 --> 00:41:04,962 we burn them, 764 00:41:05,045 --> 00:41:07,173 we boil more steam, 765 00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:10,259 and drive a steam engine to make electricity to drive the whole process. 766 00:41:11,302 --> 00:41:14,930 It requires no external power and no outside water. 767 00:41:15,014 --> 00:41:17,892 And in the end, the only byproducts 768 00:41:17,975 --> 00:41:19,810 are electricity, ash, 769 00:41:20,394 --> 00:41:22,229 and clean, drinkable water. 770 00:41:22,313 --> 00:41:24,899 We're, you know, looking at all these water samples 771 00:41:24,982 --> 00:41:26,692 coming out of the Omni Processor. 772 00:41:28,444 --> 00:41:31,004 You know where it came from, you can see the pile of shit 773 00:41:31,030 --> 00:41:32,615 that it came from five minutes ago. 774 00:41:33,324 --> 00:41:36,619 He just grabs a glass and he takes a look at it 775 00:41:36,702 --> 00:41:39,497 and boom! Just tastes like water. 776 00:41:39,622 --> 00:41:43,125 But building a prototype in just 18 months wasn't enough. 777 00:41:43,209 --> 00:41:45,961 Bill pushed Peter to get this machine up and running 778 00:41:46,045 --> 00:41:47,254 where people needed it. 779 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,257 I have access to hundreds of mechanics 780 00:41:50,341 --> 00:41:52,092 and engineers and electricians, 781 00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:53,844 and getting it to run every day 782 00:41:54,428 --> 00:41:55,596 is a piece of cake. 783 00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:57,389 But sending it to Dakar 784 00:41:57,473 --> 00:41:59,350 and getting it up and running... 785 00:41:59,433 --> 00:42:01,393 but to actually do that is kind of a big deal. 786 00:42:05,940 --> 00:42:07,441 Early on at Microsoft, 787 00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:11,153 my mom became sort of his right-hand person. 788 00:42:11,862 --> 00:42:13,102 When he bought a house, 789 00:42:13,155 --> 00:42:15,032 making sure he actually had a house cleaner, 790 00:42:15,115 --> 00:42:16,283 helping him have a wardrobe 791 00:42:16,367 --> 00:42:18,619 when he was getting a photograph taken for some magazine. 792 00:42:19,328 --> 00:42:21,330 I think he was very happy with that 793 00:42:21,413 --> 00:42:25,251 'cause as a 25, 26-year-old guy, 794 00:42:25,334 --> 00:42:28,420 he, that was great, "I don't have to worry about all this stuff." 795 00:42:30,005 --> 00:42:33,509 She made him be really thoughtful early in his life at Microsoft 796 00:42:33,592 --> 00:42:37,346 about what it meant to be a community contributor and the importance of that. 797 00:42:37,429 --> 00:42:40,766 She introduced him back into the community, she, 798 00:42:40,849 --> 00:42:43,477 you know, got him involved in United Way. 799 00:42:44,061 --> 00:42:46,313 She was his guidepost. 800 00:42:48,607 --> 00:42:51,318 I never thought that he, you know, at that point, 801 00:42:51,402 --> 00:42:52,802 that he'd get anybody to marry him. 802 00:42:56,282 --> 00:42:57,950 Melinda and my mom got along really well. 803 00:42:58,033 --> 00:43:01,120 I think my mom did a great job of sort of realizing 804 00:43:01,203 --> 00:43:03,706 that she needed to step back a little bit. 805 00:43:06,875 --> 00:43:09,962 Do you think he knew how serious her cancer was? 806 00:43:10,629 --> 00:43:11,629 Yeah. Yeah. 807 00:43:12,381 --> 00:43:15,217 She was becoming very frail. 808 00:43:16,594 --> 00:43:17,928 It was pretty clear... 809 00:43:19,388 --> 00:43:21,056 she had at most... 810 00:43:21,890 --> 00:43:23,267 a year to live. 811 00:43:24,602 --> 00:43:26,282 He did everything he could and... 812 00:43:26,854 --> 00:43:28,689 he looked into trials 813 00:43:28,772 --> 00:43:31,984 and what the different options were for treatment, and... 814 00:43:32,901 --> 00:43:37,656 it was just a little too early in the progression of cancer research 815 00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:38,991 to really help her. 816 00:43:46,415 --> 00:43:47,916 My mom loved Melinda 817 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,085 and thought that she was a great... 818 00:43:50,711 --> 00:43:53,047 addition to the family and perfect for my brother. 819 00:43:58,135 --> 00:44:01,096 Right around the time that Bill and Melinda we're getting married, 820 00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:03,265 she was quite ill. 821 00:44:09,355 --> 00:44:12,107 She died the June after they got married. 822 00:44:14,818 --> 00:44:15,986 She died of breast cancer. 823 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,080 What was the worst day in your life? 824 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,167 Mmm, like the day my mother died. 825 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,475 My mom had been fading quite a bit. 826 00:44:50,521 --> 00:44:53,232 And so I'm driving... 827 00:44:54,274 --> 00:44:56,110 to the house I grew up in. 828 00:44:57,236 --> 00:44:58,676 And I'm speeding... 829 00:44:59,113 --> 00:45:01,240 ...and I get pulled over. 830 00:45:02,866 --> 00:45:05,828 The officer walks up... 831 00:45:06,578 --> 00:45:08,831 and I was just sobbing. 832 00:45:10,791 --> 00:45:14,378 And I say, "My mom died and I'm going home." 833 00:45:17,673 --> 00:45:20,175 Even though we had expected it... 834 00:45:22,469 --> 00:45:23,637 and here it was. 835 00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:28,475 Mom was gone. 836 00:45:37,818 --> 00:45:40,404 When things are difficult emotionally, 837 00:45:40,487 --> 00:45:43,198 he goes to his safe space, which is intellect. 838 00:45:43,866 --> 00:45:45,951 It's hard for him to feel pain. 839 00:45:47,244 --> 00:45:49,246 I think it was an extraordinary loss for him. 840 00:45:49,329 --> 00:45:51,749 And I kind of wonder, you know, whether there was some... 841 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,040 um... 842 00:45:54,918 --> 00:45:56,920 some things that were left undone for him. 843 00:45:58,130 --> 00:46:00,466 She would be so prou... 844 00:46:00,549 --> 00:46:02,509 I mean, it's a shame she's not here 845 00:46:02,593 --> 00:46:04,762 'cause she would be so proud of him. 846 00:46:07,514 --> 00:46:08,682 But she... 847 00:46:09,850 --> 00:46:11,143 Yeah. Um... 848 00:46:12,394 --> 00:46:14,229 It's a shame she's not here. 849 00:46:15,856 --> 00:46:18,656 If she could see you today, you think she'd be proud of you? 850 00:46:19,193 --> 00:46:20,360 I think so. 851 00:46:22,738 --> 00:46:23,738 Uh... 852 00:46:24,156 --> 00:46:26,492 She never thought my table manners were perfect. 853 00:46:26,575 --> 00:46:28,619 I don't think I've, uh... 854 00:46:28,994 --> 00:46:29,995 solved that. 855 00:46:30,078 --> 00:46:32,164 So she'd have, you know, still things that... 856 00:46:32,664 --> 00:46:35,083 uh, she'd encourage me to do better on. 857 00:46:44,134 --> 00:46:46,804 Taking his brain and putting it 858 00:46:47,596 --> 00:46:49,389 in our family with my mom... 859 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,560 pushing him to do the social stuff... 860 00:46:57,481 --> 00:47:00,234 that's all stuff that got him... 861 00:47:01,109 --> 00:47:03,195 sort of to focus his brain... 862 00:47:04,238 --> 00:47:07,574 not just on the learning and the educational part, 863 00:47:07,658 --> 00:47:08,951 but more on the doing part. 864 00:47:15,833 --> 00:47:17,417 Today in Dakar, 865 00:47:17,501 --> 00:47:19,962 the Omni Processor is treating one-third 866 00:47:20,045 --> 00:47:21,672 of the city's fecal sludge... 867 00:47:25,008 --> 00:47:27,135 and providing clean, drinkable water. 868 00:47:29,888 --> 00:47:34,309 In journalism we tend to cover what happened today. 869 00:47:35,269 --> 00:47:37,896 We're all over a press conference, an explosion. 870 00:47:38,522 --> 00:47:40,399 We don't cover things that happen every day. 871 00:47:43,151 --> 00:47:45,529 We tend to miss those stories 872 00:47:45,612 --> 00:47:47,614 about the everyday suffering. 873 00:47:50,033 --> 00:47:53,704 And we miss the story about everyday improvement in living conditions. 874 00:47:59,918 --> 00:48:03,046 Because things that happen every day 875 00:48:03,130 --> 00:48:04,590 are never quite news. 876 00:48:06,341 --> 00:48:09,428 There's this battle for eyeballs in the journalism world. 877 00:48:10,053 --> 00:48:13,807 And covering global health is not a way to get eyeballs. 878 00:48:20,063 --> 00:48:22,608 This article was quickly forgotten 879 00:48:22,691 --> 00:48:27,112 except that it had a couple of important readers in Seattle. 880 00:48:30,824 --> 00:48:32,284 In November 2018, 881 00:48:32,951 --> 00:48:36,121 Lixil, one of the world's largest manufacturers, 882 00:48:36,705 --> 00:48:39,041 announced it would develop one of Bill's toilets. 70821

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