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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,162 WWW.MY-SUBS.CO 1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,680 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,240 the people are represented by two separate, equally important groups. 3 00:00:05,275 --> 00:00:07,365 The police, who investigate crime, 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:10,480 and the Crown prosecutors, who prosecute the offenders. 5 00:00:10,515 --> 00:00:12,400 These are their stories. 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:19,760 Police have been granted a further 24 hours to interview Lennie Gaines, 7 00:00:19,795 --> 00:00:21,880 the father of 10-year-old Jodie Gaines, 8 00:00:21,915 --> 00:00:24,045 who's been missing for seven days. 9 00:00:24,080 --> 00:00:28,240 Jodie went missing last Friday on her way to a music lesson in Central London. 10 00:00:28,275 --> 00:00:31,320 Earlier this week, Lennie Gaines and his ex-wife Kayleigh 11 00:00:31,355 --> 00:00:34,320 made an emotional plea for Jodie's safe return. 12 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:37,060 If you saw Jodie, 13 00:00:37,095 --> 00:00:39,040 and you know where... 14 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:42,600 ..where she is... 15 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:47,080 Ohhhh. 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,480 ..please... 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,880 .. you've got to tell the police. 18 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,080 She's our baby. 19 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,960 And we need her home. 20 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,040 We need her home now. 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,960 Couple of Latvian skip rats found her about three hours ago. 22 00:01:22,995 --> 00:01:24,885 They were after scrap metal. 23 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,520 She was under that radiator. Time of death, about six to ten hours ago. 24 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,365 Cause, not obvious. 25 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,085 She'd only been dead an hour or so when they dumped her. 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,360 There's abrasions on the palms of her hands. Looks like glass. 27 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:40,685 Is it her? 28 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,600 Jodie had a scar on her left arm. 29 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Any sign of her school bag or mobile? 30 00:01:48,915 --> 00:01:50,925 Nothing yet. Anything else for us? 31 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,040 Couple of mothballs, stuck to the sheet. 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,240 Who uses mothballs these days? 33 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,280 Who tapes a kid's mouth shut, and shoves them in a skip? 34 00:01:59,315 --> 00:02:02,200 I don't know. But it wasn't her dad. 35 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,520 Let's get him out of the cells, then. 36 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,725 We've told you everything we know. 37 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,840 Yeah, but it will just help us, Mr Gaines. 38 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,080 We just need to go over your statements again. 39 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,885 Routine, that's all. 40 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,800 49 hours I've been locked up. 41 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,960 And all the time she's been out there. Alive. 42 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,520 Well, the other team, you know, made a bad call. 43 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:46,800 And I know it doesn't make it any easier. 44 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:51,880 But when a child goes missing, presumed dead, we have to consider every possibility. 45 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,800 Even the fact that maybe the dad did it. 46 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,360 Not this - 47 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Not this dad. 48 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,200 Just like to go over Jodie's after-school routine, if that's OK. 49 00:04:04,235 --> 00:04:06,400 Just in case something may have been missed. 50 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,360 Guitar lesson, 4pm. Poland Street. 51 00:04:09,395 --> 00:04:11,805 It's about a mile from the school. 52 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:15,120 How does she get there? Same cab firm. They're all CRB checked. 53 00:04:15,155 --> 00:04:18,400 Look, Jodie knows all the drivers. Been through this 100 times. 54 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,960 You don't think she's a bit young to be taking cabs on her own? 55 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,965 Well, cabs, you know. 56 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:26,960 They're checked, so they're safe, eh? 57 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,520 She's usually back ten minutes after me. 58 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,925 I waited 59 00:04:33,960 --> 00:04:36,320 and waited, but she didn't come home. 60 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,925 So, Jodie was staying with you, yeah? 61 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,880 Jodie lived with me. The family courts gave me custody. Right. 62 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,320 I'll call Grebo. 63 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,920 Grebo? 64 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:53,920 Grebo Moore, the guitar teacher. 65 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,685 Lovely. Thanks. 66 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:57,885 They said she never showed up, but 67 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,600 the school teacher said she saw her get into the cab. 68 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,560 Cause of death was suffocation. Jodie had a stomach bug. 69 00:05:05,595 --> 00:05:08,560 Her mouth was taped shut. The vomit had to go somewhere. 70 00:05:08,595 --> 00:05:10,765 It clogged up the nasal passages. Jesus. 71 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,280 It could have been accidental. He accidentally taped her mouth shut? 72 00:05:14,315 --> 00:05:15,605 How we gonna tell her dad? 73 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:18,720 It's her mum I'm worried about. She could barely speak. 74 00:05:18,755 --> 00:05:20,920 At least Jodie wasn't sexually assaulted. 75 00:05:20,955 --> 00:05:23,045 That's got to be SOME consolation. 76 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,125 Although that could have been the motive for the kidnapping. 77 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,240 They did pull over 50 glass splinters from her hands. How did it get there? 78 00:05:30,275 --> 00:05:33,560 Could have been a scuffle. Glass smashed, she tried to crawl over it. 79 00:05:33,595 --> 00:05:35,645 And the sheet she was wrapped in? 80 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:39,580 1950s top-sheet, could have come from any retro shop, jumble sale - 81 00:05:39,615 --> 00:05:43,480 Or could have been bought new and had half-a-century's worth of use. 82 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,820 Talk to the cabbie again. 83 00:05:46,855 --> 00:05:48,520 And to the guitar teacher. 84 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,920 Like I told the other cops, she didn't show. 85 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:57,280 The thing is, Grebo - can I call you Grebo? 86 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,760 We have a witness that saw her walk through your front door. 87 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,245 I don't know what to say. 88 00:06:04,280 --> 00:06:07,320 You went through my flat. You'll pay for the damages. 89 00:06:07,355 --> 00:06:09,917 I'll give you the number of our complaints line. 90 00:06:09,952 --> 00:06:12,445 Jodie comes to you every week for guitar lessons. 91 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,360 When she doesn't show up, you don't think to call her parents? 92 00:06:15,395 --> 00:06:17,480 I did the first time she tried it. 93 00:06:17,515 --> 00:06:18,605 Her dad went mental. 94 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,800 What about the second or the third time? 95 00:06:20,835 --> 00:06:22,965 Her dad kept her on a tight leash. 96 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,080 If I thought for one second that she was in trouble, 97 00:06:26,115 --> 00:06:28,000 I'd have called her dad. 98 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:34,640 I've been driving Jodie over a year now. Sparky kid. 99 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,840 Where exactly did you drop Jodie? 100 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:39,600 Outside Food City on Poland Street. 101 00:06:39,635 --> 00:06:41,760 Her music teacher lives above it. 102 00:06:41,795 --> 00:06:43,440 And you watched her go in? 103 00:06:43,475 --> 00:06:44,805 Always do. 104 00:06:44,840 --> 00:06:47,640 The school recommends us to parents. It's part of the deal. 105 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:48,885 What route did you take? 106 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,365 Shaftesbury Avenue, Wardour Street, 107 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,640 Broadwick Street, then onto Poland Street. 108 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:56,685 Lads. All right, how you doing? 109 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,720 Just a quick question. How long you been working here? Best part of a week. 110 00:07:00,755 --> 00:07:03,720 And this diversion's been in place the whole time? Yeah. 111 00:07:03,755 --> 00:07:05,885 Am I missing something? 112 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:08,680 Our cabbie reckons he drove down Broadwick Street, 113 00:07:08,715 --> 00:07:10,680 and turned right onto Poland Street. 114 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Maybe his cab's got wings. 115 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,485 OK, OK. 116 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,000 Maybe I took Noel Street and turned left into Poland Street. 117 00:07:20,035 --> 00:07:21,880 No, that's one-way. 118 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,645 Then it must have been D'Arblay Street. 119 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,760 I thought these cabbies were meant to have a memory for routes. 120 00:07:27,795 --> 00:07:30,160 Dom, I sympathise with you, I really do. 121 00:07:30,195 --> 00:07:32,005 And I'll tell you for why. 122 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,520 When I was married to the first Mrs Brooks and I came home late, 123 00:07:35,555 --> 00:07:38,937 she would want to know every single detail. And I used to struggle, 124 00:07:38,972 --> 00:07:42,320 because, I've gotta be honest, half the time I couldn't remember - 125 00:07:42,355 --> 00:07:45,237 What's it matter what road I took? Hey, hey. It matters. 126 00:07:45,272 --> 00:07:48,120 Because we reckon you took Jodie for a little detour. 127 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,960 Maybe school uniforms float your boat. You're sick. 128 00:07:51,995 --> 00:07:53,845 I've got four girls of my own. 129 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,240 You think you're a man of honour because you won't touch your own kids, 130 00:07:57,275 --> 00:08:00,640 but if they're not related, they're fair game. This is crazy. 131 00:08:00,675 --> 00:08:02,520 You've lied once - Dom. 132 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,240 Would you like a cup of tea? Yes. 133 00:08:07,275 --> 00:08:09,365 Yeah. Me an' all. 134 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,680 What about you, Matt? Fancy a cup of tea? Why don't you get us one? 135 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,760 For the tape, DS Devlin is leaving the room. 136 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,285 Well. 137 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:30,925 You know what, Dom? 138 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,880 I think you're telling the truth. 139 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,660 But I also think you're leaving something out. 140 00:08:37,695 --> 00:08:40,245 Some little detail you're not telling us you know. 141 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,280 A bit like when I used to tell my wife I was working late, 142 00:08:43,315 --> 00:08:46,280 and forgot to mention I'd spent four hours in the Red Lion. 143 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,040 What's the little detail? 144 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,725 Traffic was hell. 145 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,720 Jodie said she could walk it faster. 146 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:03,880 I... 147 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,480 ..dropped her off on Wardour Street. 148 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:10,640 Corner of Broadwick. 149 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,560 Promised her dad I would never leave till she was inside. 150 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,240 We've run his name through the system. 151 00:09:24,275 --> 00:09:26,205 Not even a parking fine. 152 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,600 Right. Do you want us to let him go, then, Guv? Don't you dare. 153 00:09:29,635 --> 00:09:32,077 He's told one lie. Maybe there'll be more. 154 00:09:32,112 --> 00:09:34,516 We've been watching the wrong CCTV footage. 155 00:09:34,551 --> 00:09:36,775 Now he's changed his mind about his route, 156 00:09:36,810 --> 00:09:39,000 different cameras might come up trumps. 157 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,760 Out she gets. Ronnie? 158 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,200 Got him. Nice one. 159 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,300 Second after Jodie turns into Broadwick Street. 160 00:10:01,335 --> 00:10:03,840 Can you rewind that bit? For you, anything. 161 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,680 So just after Jodie turns into Broadwick Street, 162 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,360 one of the residents of the flats remembers seeing a white van 163 00:10:15,395 --> 00:10:17,525 hanging around the skip. 164 00:10:17,560 --> 00:10:20,080 Do you know how many white vans there are in London? 165 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:24,640 But not all of them have got racks on the side. 166 00:10:24,675 --> 00:10:26,325 It's a glazier's van. 167 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,400 And Jodie was found with glass splinters in her hands. 168 00:10:29,435 --> 00:10:31,760 Which could have come from the back of that van. 169 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,205 They're all side-shots. 170 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:41,800 The driver's in profile for maybe one frame. 171 00:10:41,835 --> 00:10:44,565 IC1, IC2, maybe. What about the van? 172 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,640 Congestion zone cameras must have got the registration. 173 00:10:47,675 --> 00:10:50,000 They got a beauty of the mud obscuring it. 174 00:10:50,035 --> 00:10:51,920 What about the lettering on the side? 175 00:10:51,955 --> 00:10:53,245 The logo's all faded. 176 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:56,120 And the light hitting the glass means you can't make it out. 177 00:10:56,155 --> 00:10:58,237 Basically, we're back to square one. 178 00:10:58,272 --> 00:11:00,276 Is that a window? It's not standard. 179 00:11:00,311 --> 00:11:02,280 Can't be many that shape around. 180 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:11,485 That is a modern take on the 19th century arch window, apparently. 181 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,080 That's very good, but does he have any idea what building it comes from? 182 00:11:15,115 --> 00:11:17,977 I reckon we've been there a few times. You've lost me. 183 00:11:18,012 --> 00:11:20,840 That is a window from the south block of the Old Bailey. 184 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,380 That's right, we did the Old Bailey job last week. 185 00:11:33,415 --> 00:11:36,040 Wasn't easy matching it up. Is this one of yours? 186 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,565 What's this all about? 187 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,685 We asked first, Mr Andreou. 188 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,880 Yeah, looks like one of my vans. What was it, hit and run? 189 00:11:44,915 --> 00:11:47,240 We think the driver may have witnessed a crime. 190 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:52,240 I've got over 30 fitters. I need to check the files. 191 00:11:52,275 --> 00:11:54,440 Leave me your number and I'll get back to you. 192 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,880 You been sober long? 193 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,325 Pardon? 194 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,000 'To thine own self be true.' That's what mine says. 195 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,240 How long? 196 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:07,480 392 days. 197 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,480 That's good. 198 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,800 We need this information now, Mr Andreou. 199 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,540 You know the Grovewood Rehab Clinic? 200 00:12:25,575 --> 00:12:27,600 I read the brochure in between pints. 201 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,485 Yeah, Christos. 202 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,720 Who fitted the window on the Old Bailey job? 203 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,445 Cheers. 204 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,960 Nick Carlton. Lives in Kennington. He's out on a job. 205 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,400 Don't tell my boss, right? 206 00:12:42,435 --> 00:12:44,097 I was moonlighting. 207 00:12:44,132 --> 00:12:45,725 You got the address? 208 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,720 Must have chucked it out. The job wasn't worth my while. Client's name? 209 00:12:49,755 --> 00:12:51,840 No memory for names. That's a shame. 210 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,405 What did you do after that? 211 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:58,040 Big job in Belgravia. Traffic was mental, got there after six, 212 00:12:58,075 --> 00:13:00,997 so I packed it in and headed for the Westminster Bridge. 213 00:13:01,032 --> 00:13:03,885 To Kennington? Surely Vauxhall Bridge would be quicker? 214 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:07,400 My mum lives in Deptford. Went round for dinner. Who else was there? 215 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:09,600 Just Mum. 216 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,000 And what time did the party finish at your mum's? 217 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,160 Dunno. Watched the footy and left. 218 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,885 Your mum'll vouch that you were there? 219 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speed cameras'll do that. Got done on the way. 220 00:13:21,395 --> 00:13:23,800 80 quid and three points. I was only going 40. 221 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,005 Nick Carlton is habitual. 222 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,220 He started off with a tour of Young Offenders Institutions at 15. 223 00:13:31,255 --> 00:13:34,400 He graduated with the big boys. You name a nick he hasn't been in. 224 00:13:34,435 --> 00:13:36,440 What did he do? What didn't he do? 225 00:13:36,475 --> 00:13:38,605 Burglary, GBH, hit and run, 226 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:40,820 one rape charge that never made it to court, 227 00:13:40,855 --> 00:13:43,000 one that got him eight years. He served four. 228 00:13:43,035 --> 00:13:44,645 The youngest victim was 20. 229 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:47,120 Killing little girls, though, that's a big leap. 230 00:13:47,155 --> 00:13:49,285 He has been out six years, and nothing. 231 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,520 Maybe prison did him some good. Or taught him how not to get caught. 232 00:13:52,555 --> 00:13:55,057 Did you confirm that speed camera? Going 40 in a 30. 233 00:13:55,092 --> 00:13:57,525 Doesn't mean he didn't have a dead girl in the back. 234 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:01,440 He goes straight on to his mum's house for spag bol. Man's gotta eat. 235 00:14:01,475 --> 00:14:03,880 He's got history. He was at the scene of the kidnapping. 236 00:14:03,915 --> 00:14:06,080 I want you to search his van. Yeah. 237 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:11,440 We went through the van with a fine-tooth comb. 238 00:14:11,475 --> 00:14:14,000 And I checked the material under the microscope. 239 00:14:14,035 --> 00:14:17,240 No fibres, no hair. What? Nothing? 240 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,240 Apart from bad taste in music. 241 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,640 Well, go through it again. If it was there, I'd have found it. 242 00:14:24,675 --> 00:14:26,845 Actually, that makes sense, Matt. 243 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Because Nick Carlton's been there and back and bought the T-shirt 244 00:14:29,955 --> 00:14:31,845 with the old hit-and-run caper. 245 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,980 The first thing he'll do is book his vehicle in for a valet. 246 00:14:35,015 --> 00:14:38,147 But Jodie had glass in her hands. There must be blood there. 247 00:14:38,182 --> 00:14:41,280 Just abrasions on her hands with glass splinters embedded. 248 00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:43,200 No actual blood, I'm afraid. 249 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:46,960 We've sent the glass off for analysis. I've said it's a priority. 250 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Oh, great. 251 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,280 Cheers, Teddy. Thanks. So, what now? 252 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,160 Right. Let's check his alibi. Talk to his mum. 253 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,645 I made roast pork. It's Nicky's favourite. 254 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,765 You know what I love, Mrs Carlton? Roast pork sandwiches. 255 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,280 Thick white bread, butter. Bit of apple sauce. Pepper. Beautiful. 256 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,440 What about your Nicky? Did he make himself a sandwich before he left? 257 00:15:11,475 --> 00:15:13,360 I don't know. I went to bed. 258 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,200 At what time? After the news. 259 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,240 Which do you prefer, BBC London, or London Tonight? 260 00:15:20,275 --> 00:15:22,160 They've all got the same bad news. 261 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,160 Bet the Hammers look good on that. Nicky gave it me for Christmas. 262 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:29,600 To watch Chelsea. 263 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,040 Ronnie? 264 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,200 Well, well. 265 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,405 We was talking about them the other day. 266 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,280 He was asking me who uses mothballs nowadays. You get infestations. 267 00:15:43,315 --> 00:15:46,160 Kept finding the little blighters all over. 268 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,360 Coming in through my airing cupboard. 269 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,120 Mind if we have a look? 270 00:15:51,155 --> 00:15:52,960 You already have. 271 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,520 My old mum had a set of them. 272 00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,520 What's that, two pillowcases and bottom sheet? 273 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,400 Top sheet would make the set. 274 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,720 Not gonna be a silly boy and try and do a runner, are you? 275 00:16:17,755 --> 00:16:19,800 No, you're an old hand at this. 276 00:16:19,835 --> 00:16:21,565 Nicholas Carlton, 277 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,480 I'm arresting you on suspicion of the kidnap and murder of Jodie Gaines. 278 00:16:25,515 --> 00:16:29,320 Maybe you'd seen little Jodie before and picked her out especially. 279 00:16:29,355 --> 00:16:32,600 No comment. Look, Nick, the only thing that'll help you now 280 00:16:32,635 --> 00:16:35,245 is if you tell us exactly what happened. 281 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,925 Just...say how sorry you are for killing Jodie. 282 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:42,400 No comment. It's your best chance of avoiding life without parole. 283 00:16:42,435 --> 00:16:43,965 He's right. 284 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,680 If you didn't mean to kill her and it was, say, an accident, 285 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:52,280 it's a whole other prison sentence between manslaughter and murder. 286 00:16:52,315 --> 00:16:54,200 So, was it an accident? 287 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,405 No comment. 288 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,280 Judge gives him life without parole, I wanna be there. 289 00:17:01,315 --> 00:17:03,445 I wanna see the whites of his eyes. 290 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,720 The glass splinters found in Jodie's hands are an exact match 291 00:17:06,755 --> 00:17:09,200 with the glass found in the back of Carlton's van. 292 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,880 Let's charge him. 293 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:21,720 The defendant has a catalogue of previous convictions, 294 00:17:21,755 --> 00:17:23,285 many of them violent. 295 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,920 The Crown believes he poses a risk to children. 296 00:17:25,955 --> 00:17:28,045 There is no suggestion that Mr Carlton 297 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,960 has ever committed any offences against children. 298 00:17:30,995 --> 00:17:33,880 His last conviction is ten years old. 299 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:39,160 My Lord, he is the sole carer for his elderly mother. 300 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,125 I am reluctantly granting bail 301 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:52,440 on the following strict conditions. 302 00:17:53,080 --> 00:17:56,000 Residence at his mother's address in Deptford. 303 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,340 An electronic tag and curfew between 6pm and 6am. 304 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:03,720 And twice daily reporting to Deptford Police Station. 305 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,920 They bailed the bastard. Lennie, I am so sorry. We'll get him at the trial. 306 00:18:24,955 --> 00:18:26,840 Will you? You said he wouldn't get bail. 307 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,000 Kayleigh. No, you stay here. 308 00:18:35,035 --> 00:18:36,880 Kayleigh. Kayleigh. 309 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:04,840 Get an ambulance, somebody. CID, excuse me. 310 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:07,880 What's going on? Wait, you're bleeding. 311 00:19:07,915 --> 00:19:09,840 No, I'm OK. I'm OK. 312 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,120 Matt. Kayleigh. 313 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,120 He killed Jodie. Shut up, Kayleigh. 314 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,925 Just wait for your brief to get here. 315 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:51,360 I'm so sorry. Mrs Gaines, please just listen to him, OK. 316 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,205 He's dead. 317 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,240 Nick Carlton's dead. 318 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,920 Mrs Gaines. 319 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:23,720 I'm arresting you on the murder of Nicholas Carlton. 320 00:20:23,755 --> 00:20:25,680 You do not have to say anything... 321 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:30,160 Are you serious?..if you do not mention when questioned 322 00:20:30,195 --> 00:20:31,720 something that you later rely on in court. 323 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Anything you do say 324 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,320 may be given in evidence. 325 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,160 He killed my little girl. 326 00:20:57,600 --> 00:20:59,520 How the hell did this happen? 327 00:20:59,555 --> 00:21:01,605 It was over in a flash. 328 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,900 Where were the Family Liaison Officers? 329 00:21:03,935 --> 00:21:06,125 No-one knew that she'd react like that. 330 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,205 We can't have every victim of crime taking the law into their own hands. 331 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,280 Every van banger in the country cheering. They're saying she deserves an OBE. 332 00:21:14,315 --> 00:21:17,840 It doesn't take much effort to put yourself in her shoes. Maybe not. 333 00:21:17,875 --> 00:21:19,760 But it can't justify murder. 334 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,080 You wanna try her for murder? 335 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,920 Of course. 336 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:29,045 What if the next grieving mum gets herself a gun? 337 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,085 Any jury will see that she's out of her mind with grief. 338 00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:36,440 She took a knife to the Old Bailey. The whole thing was caught on camera. Even so - 339 00:21:36,475 --> 00:21:40,240 We're backed into a corner. I know it's tough, but we have to prosecute. 340 00:21:40,275 --> 00:21:43,560 Except your jury will be wishing they'd stabbed him themselves. 341 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,440 I don't want a big messy trial. 342 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:52,040 Talk to the barrister. 343 00:21:52,075 --> 00:21:53,805 Make a deal. 344 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,760 My client won't serve a day for this. 345 00:21:55,795 --> 00:21:57,857 Murder has a minimum tariff, Bea. 346 00:21:57,892 --> 00:21:59,885 Even you can't magic that away. 347 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,480 As soon as the jury see Nick Carlton's record, 348 00:22:02,515 --> 00:22:05,005 they'll be lining up to shake Kayleigh's hand. 349 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,880 If they ignore the fact that she stuck a knife in his chest. 350 00:22:07,915 --> 00:22:11,045 The only fact that matters is that Jodie Gaines is dead 351 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:15,400 because the criminal justice system can't keep scum like Carlton behind bars. 352 00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:19,320 Thanks to Kayleigh Gaines, his crime spree is over. For good. 353 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,640 It wasn't up to her to end it. 354 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:35,360 I'm so sorry. Leave the talking to me, Mrs Gaines. 355 00:22:35,395 --> 00:22:37,777 All I could see in my head was Jodie. 356 00:22:37,812 --> 00:22:40,160 Dumped in that skip. Please, Mrs Gaines. 357 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,480 I kept thinking about her last minutes alive. 358 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,280 Where he kept her. Please. What he done to her. 359 00:22:51,120 --> 00:22:53,000 How scared she must have been. 360 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,560 I understand why you did it. 361 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,160 You killed a man - Yeah, he was - He was a monster. 362 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,600 If he killed your little girl... 363 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,640 ..tell me you wouldn't feel the same. 364 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:19,960 I'm sorry. We're charging murder. 365 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:28,560 You know, I've always found your inflexibility truly irritating, James. 366 00:23:28,595 --> 00:23:30,365 Then please don't let me keep you. 367 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,160 Manslaughter provocation, have we got ourselves a deal? 368 00:23:33,195 --> 00:23:35,920 This was a straight up revenge killing. You know it. 369 00:23:35,955 --> 00:23:38,045 You think she wasn't provoked? 370 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,920 He kidnapped and murdered her only child. No, that hadn't been proved. 371 00:23:41,955 --> 00:23:44,165 Nick Carlton died an innocent man. 372 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,960 Why don't you tell that to the jury? We are on the side of the angels, James. 373 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:52,040 You force a murder trial and you're going to end up with egg on your face. 374 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,400 You shouldn't let her get to you. I don't. Really? 375 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,125 George said to make a deal. Kayleigh Gaines should do time. 376 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,720 Manslaughter provocation carries a custodial. She could get 12 years. 377 00:24:08,755 --> 00:24:11,720 Or as little as 12 months. Isn't that enough? She lost a child. 378 00:24:11,755 --> 00:24:14,565 She still killed Nick Carlton. What if he was innocent? 379 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,040 She believed he was guilty. Irrelevant. She'll get a fair trial, 380 00:24:18,075 --> 00:24:21,280 and the chance of rehabilitation. He deserved the same. 381 00:24:21,315 --> 00:24:23,560 All I'm asking is that we show a little mercy. 382 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,680 It isn't up to us to show mercy, Alesha. 383 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,680 So, what do we do? 384 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,520 We do what she should have done. We let a jury decide. 385 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,200 See the tabloids this morning? 386 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,440 They've giving out pull-out posters to put in your window. 387 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,645 Kayleigh's our hero. 388 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,600 I can undress myself, thank you, Bea. 389 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,165 You'll never win. 390 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,365 The whole nation's on her side. 391 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,000 I'll take my chances. It's not too late, you know. 392 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,760 Just say those two little words and the trial just disappears, just like that. 393 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,680 Manslaughter provocation. 394 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,800 The charge is murder. 395 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,325 Oh, come on. 396 00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,720 What's a little provocation between friends? 397 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,600 Gloves off, then. 398 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,400 Nick was my only child. 399 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,200 After my husband passed away, Nick looked after me. 400 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,160 Your son had convictions for violence, didn't he? 401 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,480 I never said he was a saint. 402 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,960 If he'd anything to do with that little girl's death, 403 00:25:35,995 --> 00:25:38,240 he should have gone to prison. No question. 404 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,280 I could've lived with that. 405 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,560 But this... 406 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,285 Who gave you the right to play God? 407 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,120 Mrs Carlton, just answer Counsel's questions, please. 408 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,120 Her little girl's dead, and I'm sorry. 409 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,480 But who was she to kill my son? 410 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,960 He was my baby. 411 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,680 After your divorce, the family court gave you custody of Jodie. 412 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,400 They said Kayleigh was unfit. 413 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,525 Why was that? 414 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,960 When she had Jodie, the anaesthetist botched the epidural. 415 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,960 Messed up a nerve in her back. 416 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,960 GP gave her painkillers. 417 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,525 But Kayleigh had a problem getting off them. 418 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,440 Is it right Kayleigh was born addicted to crack cocaine? 419 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,485 Yeah. 420 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,445 We heard from our expert witness earlier 421 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,440 that crack babies have a predisposition to addictions. 422 00:26:48,475 --> 00:26:50,205 So it must have been no surprise 423 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,880 when Kayleigh became addicted to the painkillers. 424 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,320 She was addicted within weeks. 425 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,125 But she got off 'em. 426 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,000 After her recovery, what sort of mother was she? 427 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,360 Good one. 428 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,720 Loving one. 429 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,680 No further questions. 430 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,120 Having gained custody of Jodie seven years ago, 431 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,520 you've been her sole carer, haven't you? 432 00:27:24,555 --> 00:27:25,485 That's right. 433 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,965 So, surely you're the one 434 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,640 who must feel the loss of Jodie most acutely. 435 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,360 You're the one who must feel most... 436 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,760 ..provoked. 437 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,160 Yeah, I suppose so. And yet... 438 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,640 ..you didn't feel like killing Mr Carlton. 439 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,925 I'm not a violent man. 440 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,005 I couldn't do something like that. No, you couldn't. 441 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,440 Provoked or not, no normal, decent person could, could they? 442 00:27:53,475 --> 00:27:56,480 Is my learned friend making a speech already, milord? 443 00:27:56,515 --> 00:27:59,640 Mr Steel, plenty of time for speeches later. 444 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:13,400 On count one, the murder of Nicholas Carlton, 445 00:28:13,435 --> 00:28:16,720 do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty? 446 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,480 Not guilty. 447 00:28:19,515 --> 00:28:21,320 On count two, 448 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,085 the manslaughter of Nicholas Carlton, 449 00:28:24,120 --> 00:28:26,920 do you find the defendant guilty or not guilty? 450 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:31,680 Guilty. 451 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,480 A man lost his life. 452 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,400 He may indeed have been responsible for the death of Mrs Gaines' daughter. 453 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,960 But it is not one person's right 454 00:28:51,995 --> 00:28:53,840 to end the life of another. 455 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,840 This offence is clearly so serious, 456 00:28:58,875 --> 00:29:01,480 only custody is appropriate. 457 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,240 The sentence I pass is one of 12 months in prison. 458 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:12,760 Mrs Gaines. 459 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,560 No doubt the real punishment for you is to bear the loss of your daughter. 460 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,280 You have my deepest sympathy. 461 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,160 The sentence is wholly suspended for two years. 462 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,600 He might as well have congratulated her on hitting a major artery. 463 00:29:47,635 --> 00:29:50,240 Does that judge have any idea what he did in there? 464 00:29:50,275 --> 00:29:52,177 We go through all this, and for what? 465 00:29:52,212 --> 00:29:54,045 To hand a get-out-of-jail-free card 466 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,560 to every knife-wielding maniac who cries provocation? Maybe not. 467 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,285 Alesha. 468 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:03,925 Just to let you know. 469 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,640 We found out Kayleigh Gaines was treated for heroin addiction last year. 470 00:30:07,675 --> 00:30:11,080 Maybe she went further when the GP stopped her painkillers. Maybe. 471 00:30:11,115 --> 00:30:14,357 But it's not what, it's where. At the Grovewood Rehab Clinic. 472 00:30:14,392 --> 00:30:17,600 So she went to Grovewood. Trial's over, what does it matter? 473 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,480 She had company. Nick Carlton's boss Farris Andreou, 474 00:30:21,515 --> 00:30:23,400 also dried out at the Grovewood. 475 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Kayleigh Gaines and Farris Andreou both went through rehab last year. 476 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,925 Kayleigh was NHS funded. 477 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,120 So Farris Andreou knew that Kayleigh Gaines had a daughter. 478 00:30:37,155 --> 00:30:39,277 Whatever he knew about her personal life 479 00:30:39,312 --> 00:30:41,400 didn't need to come from the sessions. 480 00:30:41,435 --> 00:30:43,005 They had an affair. 481 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,020 They broke a cardinal rule. 482 00:30:45,055 --> 00:30:47,000 We asked them to leave. 483 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,360 She had to know Andreou was Nick Carlton's boss. 484 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:54,880 Do you think all three of them were involved? 485 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,640 Be a hell of a coincidence if they weren't. 486 00:30:57,675 --> 00:30:59,520 Why else hide it? 487 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,925 The Italian doctor had the hots for me. 488 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,680 I knocked her back. She thought I was with Kayleigh. 489 00:31:06,715 --> 00:31:08,760 Who you forgot to mention that you knew. 490 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,400 We know you've been inside. 491 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,725 For tax evasion. White collar stuff. 492 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,045 Is that where you met Nick Carlton, in prison? 493 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,040 We were pad-mates, till he got ghosted out to Ashbridge. 494 00:31:20,075 --> 00:31:22,005 And after that you became penpals? 495 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,520 He came knocking on my door looking for a job. I felt sorry for him. 496 00:31:25,555 --> 00:31:28,440 And you often employ convicted rapists, do you? 497 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,125 What are you talking about? 498 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,325 The young woman Nick Carlton raped. 499 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,200 She woke up and found him sitting on the end of her bed. No. 500 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,920 He wouldn't. He did. 501 00:31:39,955 --> 00:31:42,125 He tied her up. 502 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,880 He gagged her, to stop her flatmates hearing her scream, then raped her. 503 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:53,060 Carlton was in for fraud, swindling some insurance company. 504 00:31:53,095 --> 00:31:56,507 If you bought that story, you were the only one being swindled. 505 00:31:56,542 --> 00:31:59,920 He would have been on the nonce's wing. Maybe he had friends. 506 00:31:59,955 --> 00:32:02,245 Friends like you, just turn a blind eye. 507 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,760 You have to believe me. If I'd known he raped anyone, 508 00:32:04,795 --> 00:32:06,725 I wouldn't have given him a job. 509 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,160 You're facing quite a few charges here, Farris. I didn't know! 510 00:32:10,195 --> 00:32:13,560 Kidnap, conspiracy to murder, perverting the course of justice. 511 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,445 To thine own self be true. 512 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,080 And it must follow, as the night the day. 513 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,720 Thou canst not then be false to any man. 514 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,200 That quote from Hamlet gets us through another day. 515 00:32:30,235 --> 00:32:31,977 Be honest with ourselves, 516 00:32:32,012 --> 00:32:33,720 and we can stay sober. 517 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:37,200 Gotta be honest with others too. Haven't you, Farris? 518 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:40,720 Only then are we truly healed. 519 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,960 So, what have you and Kayleigh Gaines been hiding from us? 520 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,800 I owed her. 521 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,600 They kicked her out of rehab because of me. 522 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,840 But I only gave her Nick Carlton's phone number. 523 00:33:02,875 --> 00:33:05,480 I swear to God, that is all I did. 524 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,765 OK. For the tape, 525 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,800 Farris Andreou, who did you give Nick Carlton's phone number to? 526 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,760 Kayleigh. 527 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,640 It was all Kayleigh. 528 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,160 She said she wanted Nick Carlton to do something for her. 529 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Could she have hired Carlton to snatch Jodie? 530 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,125 Why would she? 531 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,760 Kayleigh, be straight with us. 532 00:33:33,795 --> 00:33:35,640 Me and Farris? 533 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,640 Just a fling. 534 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,680 He reckons you and Nick Carlton were in it together. 535 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,360 What? 536 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,800 Why would he say that? 537 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,720 He's lying. 538 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,325 Why is he doing this to me? 539 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,080 Farris reckons you were trying to get back at Lennie. 540 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,400 Cos he wouldn't let you see Jodie. 541 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,645 We get on. 542 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:07,640 Me and Lennie - Kayleigh. 543 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,880 How can you even think... 544 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,365 What mum... 545 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,720 could do that to her own kid? 546 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,760 Do you think she's telling the truth? 547 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,360 What do you think? Could it be an act? 548 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,040 Honestly, I don't know. 549 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,725 So, what now? 550 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,000 You wanna know if someone's telling the truth, 551 00:34:37,035 --> 00:34:39,240 you talk to the person who knows them best. 552 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,960 Do you...really think 553 00:34:43,995 --> 00:34:46,240 Kayleigh did this? 554 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,080 I'm sorry. 555 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,920 I can't take this in. 556 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:57,965 At the trial, 557 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,280 you swore she was a good mother. 558 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,040 She was hurting enough. 559 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,880 Just said what her barrister told me to say. 560 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,600 What didn't you say, Lennie? 561 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,600 There was this time, 562 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,240 she was late bringing Jodie back. 12 hours late. 563 00:35:22,275 --> 00:35:24,320 Kayleigh had taken her down to Hastings. 564 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,640 Locked her up in some hole of a B&B and gone off to... 565 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:32,640 ..to score. 566 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,165 She was using again. Jodie was terrified. 567 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,080 She said it was like Mummy was asleep with her eyes open. 568 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,520 So I stopped the visits. 569 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,640 You should have told the police. 570 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,040 I know. 571 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,360 Please, God, tell me she's not involved. 572 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,680 I mean, I saw these interviews. The appeal. 573 00:35:58,715 --> 00:36:00,680 She was shaking with grief. 574 00:36:00,715 --> 00:36:02,560 It wasn't grief. 575 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:05,125 It was withdrawal. 576 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,320 But why would she stop using just when she needed it most? 577 00:36:08,355 --> 00:36:11,040 The stress must have been enormous. No choice. 578 00:36:11,075 --> 00:36:13,245 The minute Jodie was reported missing, 579 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,920 she had Family Liaison Officers with her day and night. 580 00:36:15,955 --> 00:36:17,885 Why didn't we see it? 581 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,085 Addicts make very good liars. 582 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,360 The police knew it was someone close. They got the wrong parent. 583 00:36:23,395 --> 00:36:25,125 But why? 584 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,720 What could possibly drive her to have her own daughter kidnapped? 585 00:36:28,755 --> 00:36:30,600 Kayleigh. 586 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,920 That mobile phone was found in your flat. 587 00:36:35,955 --> 00:36:38,965 Hidden inside a resealed milk carton. 588 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,520 The phone is registered to a Mrs Gemma Miller. 589 00:36:41,555 --> 00:36:43,565 We've been in touch with her. 590 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,840 She confirms that she sold the phone via an online auction site to a Kayleigh Gaines. 591 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,040 This... 592 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,680 ..is a record of the call traffic between that mobile phone, 593 00:36:55,715 --> 00:36:57,765 and Nick Carlton's. 594 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,760 We also know you were texting each other like teenagers 595 00:37:00,795 --> 00:37:03,217 the week Jodie went missing. 596 00:37:03,252 --> 00:37:05,605 I did buy that phone, yeah. 597 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,100 But it was nicked the day I got it. 598 00:37:08,135 --> 00:37:10,525 Maybe Farris took it. I was thinking, 599 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,680 Farris and Nick Carlton, maybe they was in on it together. 600 00:37:13,715 --> 00:37:15,600 The problem here, Kayleigh, 601 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:20,120 is that we can tell the location of the calls as well as the phone they came from. 602 00:37:20,155 --> 00:37:22,520 The calls from your phone came... 603 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:25,960 ..from your flat. 604 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,320 So, you see, Kayleigh, we know you're involved. 605 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,240 Kayleigh? All right. 606 00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,520 He was only supposed to hide her. 607 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,680 Kayleigh hired a sex offender to snatch Jodie off the street and keep her hidden for six days. 608 00:38:27,715 --> 00:38:29,885 That's kidnap, false imprisonment 609 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,360 and the child cruelty involved makes it unlawful act manslaughter. 610 00:38:33,395 --> 00:38:36,057 Hang on. Jodie died as a result of being gagged. 611 00:38:36,092 --> 00:38:38,685 Are we saying Kayleigh knew Carlton would gag Jodie? 612 00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:42,960 You can add perverting the course of justice to that list cos she is a born liar. 613 00:38:42,995 --> 00:38:44,840 So we charge her with all four offences. 614 00:38:44,875 --> 00:38:46,720 But if we do, we do it right. 615 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,840 She will change her story ten times before she goes into that witness box. 616 00:38:50,875 --> 00:38:52,920 You need to corroborate these witnesses. 617 00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:57,720 Mrs Carlton, the police are going to charge you 618 00:38:57,755 --> 00:38:59,600 with assisting an offender. Oh. 619 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,520 That's rich. 620 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,520 Lock me up. A pensioner. 621 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,360 While that murdering bitch walks around free as you like. 622 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,920 Did your son tell you why Kayleigh Gaines wanted Jodie kidnapped? 623 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,005 The more you can tell us about her involvement, 624 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,760 the greater chance we have of putting her behind bars. 625 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,720 If Nick said anything... 626 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,240 After the girl got sick, 627 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:40,760 Nick said he called Mrs Gaines. 628 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,800 Told her that they needed a doctor. 629 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,640 He wanted to take her himself, 630 00:39:47,675 --> 00:39:49,520 but Mrs Gaines said no. 631 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,360 Said they'd both get sent down, 632 00:39:53,395 --> 00:39:55,517 if anyone found out. 633 00:39:55,552 --> 00:39:57,605 Nick told Mrs Gaines 634 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,280 that the girl was crying and making a lot of noise. 635 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:04,920 She said... 636 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,080 ..tape her mouth up. 637 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:10,720 Stop her whining. 638 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:16,720 It was only meant to be a week. 639 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,045 Fortnight, tops. 640 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,000 You were prepared to let a total stranger 641 00:40:23,035 --> 00:40:24,880 look after Jodie for two weeks? 642 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,080 It was a nice flat. 643 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,560 She had everything she needed. Telly, X-Box, the lot. 644 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,280 Nick Carlton was a convicted rapist, wasn't he? 645 00:40:36,315 --> 00:40:38,360 Yeah, but he never touched her, did he? 646 00:40:38,395 --> 00:40:40,280 The police said she weren't abused. 647 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,920 You stabbed Nick Carlton to cover up your involvement, didn't you? 648 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,160 I stabbed him cos he killed my little girl. 649 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:51,960 The papers called me a hero. 650 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,800 I'm still the same person. 651 00:40:57,720 --> 00:40:59,805 Yes. 652 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,720 Yes, you are. 653 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,720 Why did you get Nick Carlton to kidnap Jodie? 654 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,560 It was Farris. 655 00:41:13,595 --> 00:41:15,560 It was his idea. 656 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,165 When a kid goes missing, 657 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,400 the papers wanna talk to the mum, don't they? 658 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:24,405 Farris said 659 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,360 if there was a happy ending, 660 00:41:26,395 --> 00:41:28,280 papers would pay a fortune. 661 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,200 You put Jodie's life at risk, just so you could sell your story? 662 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,085 I didn't know he'd kill her, did I? 663 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,880 Kayleigh, make me understand why you would risk her life. 664 00:41:38,915 --> 00:41:40,760 What did you need the money for? 665 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,880 I wanted...to be a proper mum. 666 00:41:59,920 --> 00:42:01,840 The kind I never had. 667 00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,040 She grew inside me, all safe. 668 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,080 And then...the minute she was born it all went wrong. 669 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,160 Lennie just took her away from me. 670 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,880 He just - He just...took over. 671 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640 I kept trying to find my way back, but I couldn't. 672 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:46,720 I needed the money... 673 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,720 ..to pay for rehab. 674 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,360 I was all booked in. 675 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:55,245 I - I was gonna get clean, 676 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,160 so I could be with Jodie again, 677 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,960 Then why didn't you do it the right way, the normal way? 678 00:43:00,995 --> 00:43:03,160 Get clean, then prove yourself to the courts? 679 00:43:03,195 --> 00:43:05,080 How? 680 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,400 The NHS wouldn't fund me twice. 681 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:09,685 I begged for help. 682 00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,720 I screamed and shouted for it. 683 00:43:11,755 --> 00:43:13,897 But nobody listened. 684 00:43:13,932 --> 00:43:16,040 Because people like you, 685 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:18,600 like her... 686 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,680 ..all of you, you don't see me. 687 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,480 I'm that bit of shit on the pavement you step around, 688 00:43:31,515 --> 00:43:33,360 so you don't mess up your shoes. 689 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,520 I was gonna get clean and take her away. 690 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,960 We were going to Ibiza. Me and Jodie. 691 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,440 Far away from London and Lennie. 692 00:43:44,475 --> 00:43:46,565 And the drugs. 693 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,200 So we could be together. So I could be her mum again. 694 00:43:50,235 --> 00:43:52,565 You were going to take that little girl away 695 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,980 from the only loving parent she knew? I loved her more than him. 696 00:43:56,015 --> 00:43:59,360 You didn't think about the trauma of being snatched off the street 697 00:43:59,395 --> 00:44:01,485 by a total stranger. It wasn't like that. 698 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,600 You didn't lose any sleep over Jodie being in the back of a van, 699 00:44:04,635 --> 00:44:06,997 tied up, her mouth taped shut. You're wrong. 700 00:44:07,032 --> 00:44:09,360 All because you wanted to be a proper mum again. 701 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,720 You don't deserve to be a mum. 702 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,000 itfc subtitles by Lucy Dearlove 55764

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