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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:12,013 --> 00:00:14,224 (rumbling) 4 00:00:23,733 --> 00:00:27,028 (faint static buzzing) 5 00:00:36,079 --> 00:00:37,205 Hello. 6 00:00:37,414 --> 00:00:38,206 Hello. 7 00:00:39,916 --> 00:00:40,792 Hello. 8 00:00:44,546 --> 00:00:45,422 Hello. 9 00:00:47,007 --> 00:00:47,674 (whip smacks) 10 00:00:49,718 --> 00:00:51,845 (sirens wailing) 11 00:00:52,053 --> 00:00:54,055 (rock music) 12 00:00:54,264 --> 00:00:58,309 (speaking foreign language) 13 00:01:00,937 --> 00:01:03,940 (techno music) 14 00:01:04,190 --> 00:01:08,361 - (club patrons talking faintly) - (techno music) 15 00:02:30,860 --> 00:02:33,530 (techno music) 16 00:02:52,423 --> 00:02:54,968 MAN 1: Today was the day, I would describe something as-- 17 00:02:55,176 --> 00:02:57,387 It is hot-- Wow, he's just like 18 00:02:57,595 --> 00:02:59,681 a Tom of Finland drawing. 19 00:03:04,352 --> 00:03:06,312 MAN 2: Am I a Tom's man? (laughing) 20 00:03:06,521 --> 00:03:07,856 You mean I've been wearing this gear all these years 21 00:03:08,064 --> 00:03:09,440 and not being one? 22 00:03:09,649 --> 00:03:11,067 - Bet your life I'm a Tom's man. - MAN 3: I'm a Tom's man. 23 00:03:11,276 --> 00:03:13,027 - MAN 4: I am a Tom's man. - MAN 5: I'm Tom's man. 24 00:03:13,236 --> 00:03:16,197 MAN 6: I am one of Tom's men, proud to be. 25 00:03:21,744 --> 00:03:27,750 TOM: I need a certain atmosphere, a certain mood, it gets me excited. 26 00:03:28,501 --> 00:03:34,048 I often work dressed up in special outfits. 27 00:03:34,507 --> 00:03:39,679 It inspires me when I'm developing a fantasy. 28 00:03:46,186 --> 00:03:53,026 Leather is a living material. It's organic, not like plastic. 29 00:03:53,860 --> 00:03:59,908 It's stimulating, it has an exciting smell and softness. 30 00:04:00,575 --> 00:04:06,706 It gets better with age โ€” like many other things. 31 00:04:07,373 --> 00:04:17,372 Leather has lots of lifelike qualities that kind of rub off on its user. 32 00:04:19,719 --> 00:04:25,642 I don't think leather is worn so much for practical reasons โ€” 33 00:04:26,184 --> 00:04:30,480 but more for the contact between leather and skin. 34 00:04:31,105 --> 00:04:35,068 MAN: Police boots with motorcycle officers 35 00:04:35,276 --> 00:04:36,861 are just a real special turn-on. 36 00:04:37,111 --> 00:04:38,863 - MAN 2: Tom's drawings-- - MAN 3: I think the word you mean-- 37 00:04:39,072 --> 00:04:41,282 MAN 4: It's a harmony that I feel when I'm in leather-- 38 00:04:41,491 --> 00:04:42,408 MAN 5: Anything I knew about a man 39 00:04:42,617 --> 00:04:44,994 who liked another man was always very negative. 40 00:04:45,203 --> 00:04:46,454 - Very feminine. - MAN 6: The leather is 41 00:04:46,663 --> 00:04:48,748 - not something that's outside-- - MAN 7: It's just part of me. 42 00:04:48,957 --> 00:04:50,083 MAN 6: So it's an expression of ourselves. 43 00:04:50,291 --> 00:04:51,876 - MAN 8: Musclebound gods. - MAN 9: In leather. 44 00:04:52,085 --> 00:04:54,295 - MAN 10: Doing what they felt like doing-- - MAN 11: In bed or not. 45 00:04:54,504 --> 00:04:55,546 MAN 12: They're enjoying themselves. 46 00:04:56,047 --> 00:04:57,715 MAN 13: You always try to be like you heroes. 47 00:04:57,966 --> 00:05:01,177 (somber rock music) 48 00:05:28,830 --> 00:05:30,999 MIZER: I think it was in the late 50s. 49 00:05:31,541 --> 00:05:38,256 I sent some sample drawings to Physique Pictorial in the USA. 50 00:05:38,673 --> 00:05:42,427 MIZER: And I was very impressed with his draftsmanship 51 00:05:42,635 --> 00:05:45,763 and the spark and vitality in his work. 52 00:05:46,556 --> 00:05:48,141 The editor was really enthusiastic. 53 00:05:48,683 --> 00:05:52,061 To him, Finland was somewhere far away and exotic. 54 00:05:52,687 --> 00:05:55,440 MIZER: He would sign his letters Tom. 55 00:05:55,648 --> 00:05:59,193 I had no idea what name to use. 56 00:05:59,485 --> 00:06:03,740 I only knew that I couldn't use my own. 57 00:06:04,115 --> 00:06:05,116 MIZER: We knew he was from Finland, 58 00:06:05,325 --> 00:06:08,453 so that was the logical thing to say, Tom of Finland. 59 00:06:08,661 --> 00:06:11,456 There's a nice, wholesome, clean-cut name. 60 00:06:11,664 --> 00:06:14,167 Unpretentious, masculine. 61 00:06:14,375 --> 00:06:18,546 And his subjects that he drew were obviously Finnish types. 62 00:06:19,172 --> 00:06:21,924 The physiognomy, the structure of the bodies and all 63 00:06:22,133 --> 00:06:23,843 were Finnish types of bodies. 64 00:06:24,052 --> 00:06:27,597 It seemed that that gave it a definite character of his own 65 00:06:27,805 --> 00:06:28,806 to say Tom of Finland-- 66 00:06:29,015 --> 00:06:34,520 It bothered me, because I'm not an official representative of Finland. 67 00:06:34,937 --> 00:06:37,190 It's a personal thing for me. 68 00:06:37,774 --> 00:06:40,109 (slow music) 69 00:06:48,201 --> 00:06:50,411 (sighing) 70 00:07:01,172 --> 00:07:04,634 (distorted music) 71 00:07:04,842 --> 00:07:08,971 - (explosions booming) - (gunshots booming) 72 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:11,682 (intense music) 73 00:07:14,227 --> 00:07:21,776 Those years that for most people are among the best in their lives โ€” 74 00:07:22,318 --> 00:07:29,409 years you spend studying and enjoying life, learning about yourself and the world. 75 00:07:30,034 --> 00:07:33,287 For me, that time was during the war. 76 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,707 It was a harsh and brutal time โ€” 77 00:07:37,250 --> 00:07:41,712 but it pushed me into new fantasies and visions. 78 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:46,801 All of my contacts during those five years โ€” 79 00:07:47,301 --> 00:07:52,056 were related to uniforms in one way or other. 80 00:07:52,932 --> 00:07:56,936 Civilians were suspect in some way. 81 00:07:57,228 --> 00:08:01,065 There must be something wrong with them โ€” 82 00:08:01,566 --> 00:08:04,569 because they weren't accepted into the army. 83 00:08:05,027 --> 00:08:08,281 We were full of naive patriotism. 84 00:08:09,574 --> 00:08:12,368 Everybody had to join the army โ€” 85 00:08:12,577 --> 00:08:15,329 and fight for the holy cause, all sorts of nonsense. 86 00:08:15,663 --> 00:08:19,500 Quality requirements also started creeping in โ€” 87 00:08:19,834 --> 00:08:24,005 like a well-built body in a tight-fitting uniform โ€” 88 00:08:24,422 --> 00:08:30,178 so they looked like real he-men. 89 00:08:32,263 --> 00:08:37,768 It was more effective than a guy in a baggy uniform. 90 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:41,814 They were increasingly looking for an ideal. 91 00:08:42,190 --> 00:08:46,277 That was of course on a different level in Germany. 92 00:08:47,278 --> 00:08:50,698 When the war ended, things changed radically. 93 00:08:50,990 --> 00:08:54,368 I felt rootless. 94 00:08:54,827 --> 00:09:00,708 I had no traditional contact with my surroundings, no family. 95 00:09:01,083 --> 00:09:05,087 I felt a tremendous need for something more sensitive โ€” 96 00:09:05,463 --> 00:09:11,177 more 'alive' in contrast to killing people in the war. 97 00:09:28,653 --> 00:09:33,407 My parents gave me a pair of brown leather boots. 98 00:09:34,575 --> 00:09:40,706 The first few days I wouldn't take them off, even in bed. 99 00:09:41,415 --> 00:09:45,920 My mother made me take them off โ€” 100 00:09:46,754 --> 00:09:52,843 but when she left the room I put them on again. 101 00:09:53,386 --> 00:09:58,474 I wore them all night and no doubt had pleasant dreams. 102 00:09:58,891 --> 00:10:06,023 Already then I had this strong need for contact with leather and boots. 103 00:10:10,778 --> 00:10:14,657 I was born in 1920, 70 years ago. 104 00:10:16,075 --> 00:10:23,165 Living conditions have changed a lot since then, in one lifetime. 105 00:10:23,958 --> 00:10:28,170 I was born in Kaarina in southwestern Finland. 106 00:10:29,046 --> 00:10:32,550 Both my parents were teachers. 107 00:10:32,842 --> 00:10:36,262 We lived at the school, there was plenty of space. 108 00:10:36,637 --> 00:10:40,808 But life was very primitive. 109 00:10:41,392 --> 00:10:44,979 I was already at school โ€” 110 00:10:45,313 --> 00:10:49,066 when the first cars appeared in the village. 111 00:10:49,358 --> 00:10:55,323 It became fashionable to have a car, and my father bought one too. 112 00:10:55,531 --> 00:11:00,369 It was a Chevrolet, model 25, a cabriolet. 113 00:11:00,620 --> 00:11:05,041 The roof didn't work. It wouldn't come down. 114 00:11:05,458 --> 00:11:08,711 But to us it was a great automobile. 115 00:11:09,837 --> 00:11:14,091 - (children chattering) - (somber music) 116 00:11:16,093 --> 00:11:20,348 I studied music at the Sibelius Academy. 117 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,019 I also graduated from Advertising College. 118 00:11:26,020 --> 00:11:30,775 I got a fabulous job at a big advertising agency. 119 00:11:31,150 --> 00:11:34,612 There was a great shortage of graphic artists. 120 00:11:34,945 --> 00:11:37,615 I started as a trainee drawer. 121 00:11:37,990 --> 00:11:42,536 I was there for 15 years, and advanced rapidly. 122 00:11:44,372 --> 00:11:45,790 - MAN 1: Musclebound gods. - MAN 2: Liking each other. 123 00:11:45,998 --> 00:11:47,333 Doing what they felt like doing. 124 00:11:47,541 --> 00:11:48,376 - with each other. - MAN 3: In bed or not. 125 00:11:48,584 --> 00:11:50,544 MAN 4: Enjoying themselves. 126 00:11:50,753 --> 00:11:53,673 (orchestral music) 127 00:12:16,570 --> 00:12:17,780 - MAN 1: I'm a Tom's man. - MAN 2: I'm a Tom's man. 128 00:12:17,988 --> 00:12:19,490 - MAN 3: I am a Tom's man. - MAN 4: I'm Tom's man. 129 00:12:19,699 --> 00:12:21,200 MAN 5: I am one of Tom's men. 130 00:12:21,701 --> 00:12:24,453 (orchestral music) 131 00:12:24,912 --> 00:12:27,456 When I first started all this โ€” 132 00:12:27,873 --> 00:12:32,253 my characters were exaggeratedly beautiful. 133 00:12:32,712 --> 00:12:35,881 Long eyelashes and red cheeks. 134 00:12:36,215 --> 00:12:41,095 To make them acceptable, I made them young and fresh. 135 00:12:41,429 --> 00:12:44,306 This was not really my style โ€” 136 00:12:44,598 --> 00:12:46,475 but I did it to please other people. 137 00:12:46,726 --> 00:12:48,602 - MAN 1: They loved him. - MAN 2: They wanted more all the time. 138 00:12:49,061 --> 00:12:54,442 Gradually the prettiness fell away and was replaced by masculinity โ€” 139 00:12:54,734 --> 00:13:00,239 which I personally felt was more interesting and appealing. 140 00:13:01,741 --> 00:13:03,659 MAN 1: He was able to put sensuality 141 00:13:03,868 --> 00:13:05,494 - into his drawings-- - MAN 2: Just to what degree 142 00:13:05,703 --> 00:13:09,081 he could exaggerate the anatomy without it being unbelievable. 143 00:13:09,290 --> 00:13:12,084 Make it idealistic without making it unreal. 144 00:13:12,293 --> 00:13:14,378 I was much influenced โ€” 145 00:13:14,670 --> 00:13:19,467 by American body-building magazines of the time โ€” 146 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,721 that depicted their he-man types. 147 00:13:23,929 --> 00:13:25,181 MAN: With Tom's characters you could believe 148 00:13:25,389 --> 00:13:26,682 that they could exist. 149 00:13:26,891 --> 00:13:29,101 They were just perfections of type. 150 00:13:29,310 --> 00:13:30,603 They couldn't happen very often, 151 00:13:30,811 --> 00:13:32,438 but at least you knew there was a possibility. 152 00:13:32,688 --> 00:13:36,358 (orchestral music) 153 00:13:55,169 --> 00:13:57,755 MIZER: The name of the magazine was Physique Pictorial. 154 00:13:57,963 --> 00:14:00,549 We didn't start the magazine until 155 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,886 about six years after the business-- 156 00:14:04,386 --> 00:14:07,890 There were lots of famous guys โ€” 157 00:14:08,182 --> 00:14:12,978 who were not professional body-builders โ€” 158 00:14:13,354 --> 00:14:16,857 but did regular modeling jobs. 159 00:14:17,858 --> 00:14:20,694 I copied them. 160 00:14:21,362 --> 00:14:25,032 Usually with permission, sometimes even without. 161 00:14:25,241 --> 00:14:27,701 MIZER: He had his own ideas of what he wanted to draw, 162 00:14:27,952 --> 00:14:30,788 but he didn't like particularly being told what to do. 163 00:14:31,038 --> 00:14:35,918 A heavily built, well-trimmed body. 164 00:14:36,669 --> 00:14:42,091 Short hair, friendly, sometimes over-friendly smile. 165 00:14:42,299 --> 00:14:45,094 No frightening, nightmare types. 166 00:14:45,302 --> 00:14:47,513 MIZER: He would see our films and our photos 167 00:14:47,721 --> 00:14:50,349 and it would give him an idea for a drawing, 168 00:14:50,558 --> 00:14:54,019 so it was a wonderful exchange of ideas between the two. 169 00:14:54,228 --> 00:14:57,439 And we saw his drawing set called Circus Boys, 170 00:14:58,023 --> 00:15:01,402 of a farm boy getting a tattoo. 171 00:15:01,819 --> 00:15:03,320 And we turned that into a little film 172 00:15:03,529 --> 00:15:06,782 we called The Tattooed Sailor and the Hoods. 173 00:15:12,037 --> 00:15:15,749 I primarily borrowed a strong, healthy type. 174 00:15:16,166 --> 00:15:18,502 I found it attractive. 175 00:15:19,962 --> 00:15:22,506 (upbeat music) 176 00:16:07,343 --> 00:16:11,680 - (motorcycle engines rev) - (sirens wailing) 177 00:16:13,307 --> 00:16:15,976 BLAKE: A lot of the leather and rubber fetishism 178 00:16:16,393 --> 00:16:19,605 that we know today originated in Britain after the war. 179 00:16:19,813 --> 00:16:21,941 The role that Tom played in all of this 180 00:16:22,149 --> 00:16:24,568 was that his drawings were connected 181 00:16:24,818 --> 00:16:27,237 to almost a sort of invisible network 182 00:16:27,446 --> 00:16:31,325 of gay people throughout the United States and Europe, 183 00:16:31,533 --> 00:16:35,746 who were all linked together by smaller magazines 184 00:16:35,955 --> 00:16:38,165 like Physique Pictorial magazines, 185 00:16:38,415 --> 00:16:40,668 and Physique Art. 186 00:16:40,876 --> 00:16:43,045 I was living in a little bitty town in Texas. 187 00:16:43,253 --> 00:16:47,925 But apparently the town homo ran the drugstore 188 00:16:48,133 --> 00:16:52,805 and he carried the Athletic Model Guild. 189 00:16:53,013 --> 00:16:54,932 I was only 12, so they wouldn't sell 190 00:16:55,182 --> 00:16:57,184 something like that to me, not in 1957. 191 00:16:57,393 --> 00:16:59,937 But I stole that very first issue 192 00:17:00,145 --> 00:17:02,773 that had the Tom of Finland drawing on the cover. 193 00:17:03,107 --> 00:17:05,818 TOM: It did not pay very well. 194 00:17:06,026 --> 00:17:10,406 But I had another job, so money was not so important. 195 00:17:10,823 --> 00:17:14,618 But getting drawings published was rewarding to me. 196 00:17:17,204 --> 00:17:20,874 I wanted to make them as natural as possible. 197 00:17:21,208 --> 00:17:25,295 Sometimes there was a nose or waist or something โ€” 198 00:17:25,629 --> 00:17:29,216 that had to be corrected a little. 199 00:17:30,259 --> 00:17:35,723 I added elements to existing photos and transferred them onto paper. 200 00:17:36,056 --> 00:17:41,645 This automatically gave me a photorealistic approach. 201 00:17:42,438 --> 00:17:47,651 It had a special effect, for me, at least. 202 00:17:48,527 --> 00:17:52,990 I suddenly began seeing the figures as being almost alive โ€” 203 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,868 not just outline caricatures. 204 00:17:57,411 --> 00:18:00,873 (acoustic guitar music) 205 00:18:06,712 --> 00:18:12,593 This is a typical example of how I search for specific details. 206 00:18:13,093 --> 00:18:16,597 I have used a photograph here. 207 00:18:16,972 --> 00:18:21,518 This was done to order. First there was this posture โ€” 208 00:18:21,810 --> 00:18:27,149 then I elaborated it by drawing with exaggeration 209 00:18:28,859 --> 00:18:31,695 Here we have the same technique. 210 00:18:32,321 --> 00:18:37,743 A living model is transferred to a drawing. 211 00:18:44,208 --> 00:18:49,838 This is a long mural, although it's made on canvas. 212 00:18:50,089 --> 00:18:57,471 The client wanted a racing scene. In planning the composition โ€” 213 00:18:57,763 --> 00:19:03,018 I took this photo I had saved a couple of years earlier โ€” 214 00:19:03,268 --> 00:19:06,939 because I thought it was great. 215 00:19:07,189 --> 00:19:10,692 So I used it as a model for one motorcyclist. 216 00:19:12,111 --> 00:19:17,699 So, I either used an existing photo or took a photo of a given motif. 217 00:19:18,867 --> 00:19:22,830 Nowadays I use living models as much as possible. 218 00:19:23,163 --> 00:19:27,417 I like to choose them myself. 219 00:19:27,709 --> 00:19:31,755 I take a photo of the model and draw from that. 220 00:19:31,964 --> 00:19:36,385 It gives me a visual image of a living person โ€” 221 00:19:36,635 --> 00:19:41,932 and I recall their features and gestures when I draw the picture. 222 00:19:44,810 --> 00:19:47,312 Normally I use pencil. 223 00:19:47,980 --> 00:19:51,483 One picture takes about a week. 224 00:19:53,318 --> 00:19:58,323 I'd say I've made over 3,000 pictures. Probably quite a lot more โ€” 225 00:19:59,283 --> 00:20:04,371 because that estimate was made almost 10 years ago. 226 00:20:05,706 --> 00:20:09,251 Of course, I'm not as productive as I used to be โ€” 227 00:20:09,585 --> 00:20:12,921 but I must have done a few hundred since then. 228 00:20:13,463 --> 00:20:14,798 ANNOUNCER: Lift-off. 229 00:20:15,007 --> 00:20:17,176 (rumbling) 230 00:20:19,970 --> 00:20:24,975 In the early '60s people had got used to this type โ€” 231 00:20:25,225 --> 00:20:29,688 and started asking for more exaggeration. 232 00:20:29,897 --> 00:20:36,945 I also had a need to pump up things that were important to me. 233 00:20:37,362 --> 00:20:43,702 Another thing was that photography had advanced a lot technically. 234 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:51,293 It was possible to depict muscular super-types in photographs. 235 00:20:52,794 --> 00:20:58,508 My problem was how to compete with authentic photographs. 236 00:20:59,885 --> 00:21:03,931 How to show more than the camera could. 237 00:21:04,223 --> 00:21:09,686 That led to a period of exaggeration and over-sized dimensions. 238 00:21:13,148 --> 00:21:14,650 MAN: My name's Kake, what's yours? 239 00:21:14,858 --> 00:21:19,279 TOM: I wanted to make a kind of universal type. 240 00:21:19,529 --> 00:21:25,911 A guy who is open to anything. 241 00:21:27,079 --> 00:21:31,250 One reason was that I had met a lot of people โ€” 242 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:37,381 who were very inhibited in their behavior and preferences. 243 00:21:37,756 --> 00:21:43,762 I was quite disappointed with them. 244 00:21:45,681 --> 00:21:48,892 Another reason was โ€” 245 00:21:49,268 --> 00:21:53,272 that I wanted to create an ideal Finnish type โ€” 246 00:21:53,563 --> 00:21:55,065 as a counterbalance to the American type. 247 00:21:55,274 --> 00:21:56,441 MAN: My name's Kake, what's yours? 248 00:21:56,692 --> 00:22:02,948 TOM: Partly he was an embodiment of my own unfulfilled dreams. 249 00:22:03,573 --> 00:22:07,619 I took all the properties that I myself did not have โ€” 250 00:22:07,953 --> 00:22:11,623 and put them into this comic figure. 251 00:22:12,207 --> 00:22:13,166 MAN 1: Hi there, fella. 252 00:22:13,709 --> 00:22:14,835 - I know what you need. - (moaning) 253 00:22:15,043 --> 00:22:16,837 MAN 2: I've waited so long for someone. (moans) 254 00:22:17,045 --> 00:22:18,213 - MAN 1: Time to get fucked. - (moaning) 255 00:22:18,422 --> 00:22:20,048 MAN 2: I never knew that sex could be so terrific. 256 00:22:20,465 --> 00:22:22,134 MAN 1: My dick's so fuckin' hard I can't get the fly open. 257 00:22:22,342 --> 00:22:24,094 - MAN 2: I'm getting all that? - MAN 1: You sure are. 258 00:22:24,303 --> 00:22:25,721 It's gonna be one terrific fuck. 259 00:22:25,929 --> 00:22:26,638 MAN 2: Take me. 260 00:22:26,888 --> 00:22:27,597 - MAN 1: Oh, tight fit-- - MAN 2: Fuck me. 261 00:22:27,806 --> 00:22:28,724 MAN 1: This is where I make 262 00:22:28,932 --> 00:22:30,434 - a real man of you. - MAN 2: More! 263 00:22:30,642 --> 00:22:32,477 MAN 1: My balls are exploding, oh boy, 264 00:22:32,686 --> 00:22:33,353 - it's terrific. - MAN 3: What the hell 265 00:22:33,562 --> 00:22:34,563 - is going on here? - MAN 2: Father! 266 00:22:34,771 --> 00:22:36,440 Hey, Dad, I don't know who he is. 267 00:22:36,648 --> 00:22:38,817 FATHER: Well leather fucker, you came here for a fuck, 268 00:22:39,026 --> 00:22:39,901 and a fuck is what you're gonna get. 269 00:22:40,110 --> 00:22:41,194 MAN 2: I didn't know you swing this way. 270 00:22:41,403 --> 00:22:43,739 FATHER: That's my boy, horny as hell. 271 00:22:43,989 --> 00:22:45,866 I hope you've saved some for your old dad. 272 00:22:46,199 --> 00:22:47,284 - MAN 1: I'm a Tom's man. - MAN 2: I'm a Tom's man. 273 00:22:47,492 --> 00:22:48,952 - MAN 3: I am a Tom's man. - MAN 4: I'm Tom's man. 274 00:22:49,161 --> 00:22:50,620 - MAN 5: I am Tom's man. - MAN 6: I grew up in a seaport. 275 00:22:50,829 --> 00:22:52,205 MAN 7: I always enjoyed high school. 276 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:53,874 - MAN 8: I was 19. - MAN 9: Small town. 277 00:22:54,124 --> 00:22:55,834 - MAN 10: Los Angeles, San Francisco. - MAN 11: Chicago. 278 00:22:56,043 --> 00:22:57,336 MAN 12: In Europe. 279 00:22:57,544 --> 00:22:58,295 MAN 13: LA. 280 00:22:58,503 --> 00:23:01,423 (airplane roaring) 281 00:23:02,507 --> 00:23:06,845 By the '70s I already had close contacts โ€” 282 00:23:07,054 --> 00:23:11,558 with publishers of erotic pictures. 283 00:23:12,392 --> 00:23:17,981 I was able to express myself in these pictures โ€” 284 00:23:18,398 --> 00:23:25,280 better than in campaigns for a big advertising agency. 285 00:23:26,782 --> 00:23:31,453 In 1973 I left my regular job and focused on drawing. 286 00:23:32,704 --> 00:23:38,210 Things had started to go as I had hoped. 287 00:23:38,627 --> 00:23:40,003 DEHNER: They wanted to really put 288 00:23:40,212 --> 00:23:41,755 the red carpet out for him. 289 00:23:41,963 --> 00:23:43,799 And so they arranged a motorcade. 290 00:23:44,341 --> 00:23:46,843 And there they are, you know. 291 00:23:47,052 --> 00:23:50,055 A militia of leather guys waiting for him, 292 00:23:50,263 --> 00:23:52,432 right there in the lobby of the customs 293 00:23:52,682 --> 00:23:54,226 at the international terminal. 294 00:23:54,434 --> 00:23:56,937 So he was really surprised, and 295 00:23:57,896 --> 00:24:00,816 so in the end he goes into the motorcade 296 00:24:01,024 --> 00:24:03,735 and off he goes into Manhattan down to Greenwich Village 297 00:24:03,944 --> 00:24:08,156 where the exhibition was opening, it was opening night. 298 00:24:08,365 --> 00:24:10,283 So he pulled out of his briefcase, 299 00:24:10,492 --> 00:24:11,910 I mean out of his satchel, 300 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:15,038 his typical motorcycle leather cap 301 00:24:15,247 --> 00:24:18,166 and he changed into his leather jacket. 302 00:24:18,375 --> 00:24:21,795 And there was like a typical New York opening 303 00:24:22,003 --> 00:24:23,797 with lots and lots of people. 304 00:24:24,005 --> 00:24:26,299 Very mixed, lots of women, Robert Mapplethorpe, 305 00:24:26,508 --> 00:24:28,927 men, straight, gay, Warhol. 306 00:24:29,136 --> 00:24:32,639 (chatting and laughing) 307 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:43,567 MAN: When I was 15 I kind of snuck into a buddy's room 308 00:24:43,817 --> 00:24:46,111 and I was going through some of his stuff. 309 00:24:46,319 --> 00:24:48,864 And I saw Tom of Finland's drawings. 310 00:24:49,072 --> 00:24:50,824 I think that was the first time in my life 311 00:24:51,074 --> 00:24:54,953 that I could see myself in a gay situation. 312 00:24:55,328 --> 00:24:58,331 You know, with men, 'cause I 313 00:24:58,540 --> 00:25:02,043 could see myself in those drawings of his. 314 00:25:02,252 --> 00:25:04,504 And so I was fascinated about meeting Tom Finland. 315 00:25:04,713 --> 00:25:09,009 I just thought to myself, here's this incredible artist 316 00:25:09,217 --> 00:25:12,721 and master drawer, and he's just drawin' away 317 00:25:12,929 --> 00:25:16,725 at this tree, and I said, "Tom, Tom, don't draw the tree. 318 00:25:16,933 --> 00:25:19,811 "Draw me," and he said, "All right, just stay right there." 319 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:23,773 And he sketched me up, and that was it. 320 00:25:23,982 --> 00:25:26,985 You know, so, he goes, "Okay, thanks." 321 00:25:27,194 --> 00:25:31,740 I just thought well, all right. (chuckling) 322 00:25:31,948 --> 00:25:34,201 And it was fantastic, I mean, 323 00:25:34,409 --> 00:25:38,288 it really was something that I always wanted. 324 00:25:38,497 --> 00:25:43,168 And for him to do that for me was a real compliment. 325 00:25:43,376 --> 00:25:47,005 TOM: All the years that I have worked for the American market โ€” 326 00:25:47,547 --> 00:25:51,176 have given my drawings a certain American look. 327 00:25:54,429 --> 00:25:56,681 DEHNER: Tom and I started the company because 328 00:25:56,890 --> 00:26:00,060 other people were pirating his work all over the world. 329 00:26:00,310 --> 00:26:02,395 A good example of that was 330 00:26:02,604 --> 00:26:05,315 when we printed our first little book here in LA, 331 00:26:05,524 --> 00:26:07,234 we went to a printer that I was referred to 332 00:26:07,442 --> 00:26:08,610 in North Hollywood. 333 00:26:09,528 --> 00:26:12,781 The guy had been in adult business 334 00:26:12,989 --> 00:26:16,201 for many, many years, and boasted to Tom and I 335 00:26:16,409 --> 00:26:19,412 that in fact he had paid for his kids' college 336 00:26:19,621 --> 00:26:23,041 education through the volume of Tom's work 337 00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:26,670 that he had pirated and sold over the past decades. 338 00:26:26,878 --> 00:26:31,299 TOM: An Italian company sent a contact to Copenhagen. 339 00:26:32,342 --> 00:26:39,766 Whenever a new issue came out, they had it in Italy a week later. 340 00:26:41,268 --> 00:26:45,272 So we set up a partnership and took back the control 341 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,857 so that he could in fact publish his own work 342 00:26:48,066 --> 00:26:50,610 and reap the benefits of it, financially, 343 00:26:50,819 --> 00:26:53,321 and have control over the quality of it. 344 00:26:53,530 --> 00:26:58,827 TOM: Setting up our own business gradually cut down piratism. 345 00:26:59,578 --> 00:27:00,912 DEHNER: Now, eight, nine years later, 346 00:27:01,121 --> 00:27:05,375 we've got a catalog with, I don't know, maybe 60, 70, 80 347 00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:07,586 different pieces of merchandise that we sell. 348 00:27:08,003 --> 00:27:10,255 MAN: Kake in the Wild West. 349 00:27:11,047 --> 00:27:14,759 He has not yet experienced the gay West, 350 00:27:15,010 --> 00:27:17,679 so he gets on his bike, 351 00:27:17,887 --> 00:27:20,140 and off he rides to a saloon 352 00:27:20,348 --> 00:27:23,727 where lustful cowboys play their games. (chuckling) 353 00:27:23,935 --> 00:27:27,147 Fuck, his big rock-hard tits and juicy ass 354 00:27:27,355 --> 00:27:29,608 fixate those cowboys' attention. 355 00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:33,320 But they cannot believe that the enormous bulge 356 00:27:33,528 --> 00:27:36,906 in his shiny, skin-tight leather breeches 357 00:27:37,115 --> 00:27:39,242 is the real thing. (chuckling) 358 00:27:39,451 --> 00:27:40,869 Till it's pulled out. 359 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,581 Ooh, the monstrous gleaming, throbbing tool. 360 00:27:44,789 --> 00:27:47,626 Ready to make any cow-hand happy. 361 00:27:48,668 --> 00:27:51,171 Then a big fuckin' 362 00:27:51,379 --> 00:27:53,465 dirty desperado 363 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:56,509 came walkin' through the doors of the saloon. 364 00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,723 - (groaning) - He had a smelly, itchy crotch 365 00:28:01,931 --> 00:28:05,977 and a big fat dick that needed some servicin'. 366 00:28:06,394 --> 00:28:08,480 He was mean. 367 00:28:12,275 --> 00:28:14,819 - Then-- - (gunshots booming) 368 00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:17,030 MAN: Kake put his head and dick together. 369 00:28:17,489 --> 00:28:19,491 - (gunshots booming) - MAN: To fix this dirty problem. 370 00:28:21,117 --> 00:28:25,330 - (blows landing) - (gunshots) 371 00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:31,961 DEHNER: Hearing so many stories of so many men, 372 00:28:32,212 --> 00:28:34,005 leather and craftsmanship nation, 373 00:28:34,214 --> 00:28:37,425 and so about 1986, I started the foundation for him. 374 00:28:37,634 --> 00:28:40,970 I sort through the archive catalog 375 00:28:41,179 --> 00:28:45,058 and all of the slides and record prints 376 00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:48,228 that we have supplied to us from Tom of Finland. 377 00:28:48,436 --> 00:28:49,354 I edit 378 00:28:51,231 --> 00:28:54,693 our newsletter, which comes out two or three, 379 00:28:54,901 --> 00:28:56,820 hopefully four times a year. 380 00:28:57,779 --> 00:29:00,198 And I do a lot of press release writing. 381 00:29:00,448 --> 00:29:02,367 DEHNER: We're cataloging all of Tom's work, 382 00:29:02,575 --> 00:29:05,829 which is like over 3,500 finished drawings 383 00:29:06,037 --> 00:29:09,165 and about another 2,000 rough sketches. 384 00:29:09,374 --> 00:29:11,710 And so then we'll have a library of that. 385 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,338 And then we're collecting all sorts of ephemera, 386 00:29:15,547 --> 00:29:18,550 which are things that have Tom's images on it. 387 00:29:18,758 --> 00:29:22,470 And our goal is then to establish a museum 388 00:29:22,679 --> 00:29:24,597 for Tom's erotic art. 389 00:29:24,848 --> 00:29:27,976 (wordless vocalizing) 390 00:29:51,499 --> 00:29:54,294 (slow rock music) 391 00:30:01,301 --> 00:30:05,764 TOM: No matter how hard I try I can't make them appealing. 392 00:30:06,139 --> 00:30:09,934 I don't have the right feeling for them. 393 00:30:10,143 --> 00:30:15,315 If I try to copy a woman from a sex magazine โ€” 394 00:30:15,607 --> 00:30:21,070 there is always something, not negative but cold about it. 395 00:30:21,488 --> 00:30:25,116 It lacks that feminine sensuality. 396 00:30:26,284 --> 00:30:29,579 (film projector whirs) 397 00:30:33,166 --> 00:30:35,919 (slow rock music) 398 00:30:55,688 --> 00:30:59,484 Tom's work is an ideal image of masculinity and sexuality. 399 00:30:59,692 --> 00:31:01,194 It wasn't till I saw Tom of Finland's work 400 00:31:01,402 --> 00:31:04,948 that I realized it was possible to be gay and positive. 401 00:31:05,198 --> 00:31:08,034 ETIENNE: The sense of fun, I think, is very important. 402 00:31:09,077 --> 00:31:13,498 It let people who were disposed to this type of thing 403 00:31:13,706 --> 00:31:17,043 realize that it didn't all have to be dark and brutal. 404 00:31:17,293 --> 00:31:19,170 Tom structures the drawings 405 00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:23,550 around the ways in which various people look at each other. 406 00:31:23,758 --> 00:31:26,845 Rather than to just have a sort of one-to-one interaction 407 00:31:27,053 --> 00:31:28,930 - between the viewer. - ETIENNE: His expressions 408 00:31:29,138 --> 00:31:32,308 were very important, very erotic. 409 00:31:32,517 --> 00:31:34,102 BLAKE: There's always a situation where people 410 00:31:34,310 --> 00:31:35,854 are looking back and forth at each other, 411 00:31:36,104 --> 00:31:39,566 returning these looks, and deriving pleasure from it. 412 00:31:39,774 --> 00:31:42,819 TOM: The first time I noticed this โ€” 413 00:31:43,069 --> 00:31:47,156 was when I saw some superb oil paintings โ€” 414 00:31:47,532 --> 00:31:51,619 by a Mexican painter called Quaintance. 415 00:31:51,911 --> 00:31:56,249 But his figures never made proper eye contact. 416 00:31:56,708 --> 00:32:01,004 There might be two figures close together โ€” 417 00:32:01,254 --> 00:32:05,466 but there was nothing connecting them. 418 00:32:07,051 --> 00:32:11,097 One guy's arm may be on the other's shoulder โ€” 419 00:32:11,431 --> 00:32:16,895 but there was no sense of human contact. 420 00:32:18,771 --> 00:32:22,817 This bothered me a lot. I wanted the eyes to show โ€” 421 00:32:23,151 --> 00:32:26,696 what they were feeling and wanted to say. 422 00:32:27,405 --> 00:32:29,324 (slow rock music) 423 00:32:29,991 --> 00:32:31,117 ETIENNE: We of course both were drawing 424 00:32:31,367 --> 00:32:32,535 during the period when you couldn't 425 00:32:32,744 --> 00:32:35,496 show too much happening, so you inferred a lot 426 00:32:35,705 --> 00:32:38,333 by the looks on people's faces. 427 00:32:38,791 --> 00:32:42,211 Readers usually knew only their native language. 428 00:32:42,462 --> 00:32:49,010 So we couldn't use text to express what the figures were feeling. 429 00:32:49,552 --> 00:32:53,348 We had to use the face and gestures and actions โ€” 430 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,476 as a means of expression. 431 00:32:56,684 --> 00:32:58,811 ETIENNE: If you were going to draw this kind 432 00:32:59,020 --> 00:33:02,565 of genre at all you were going to do Greek gods 433 00:33:02,774 --> 00:33:04,859 and people who were very inaccessible. 434 00:33:05,068 --> 00:33:07,570 There was a transition from 435 00:33:08,154 --> 00:33:12,158 the sort of image of the homosexual past being 436 00:33:12,367 --> 00:33:14,077 somehow linked to ancient Greece and sort of 437 00:33:14,285 --> 00:33:16,204 the figure of youths. 438 00:33:16,955 --> 00:33:20,625 Instead, Tom situates that image 439 00:33:20,917 --> 00:33:22,710 in the people around him. 440 00:33:22,919 --> 00:33:24,295 He drew real people 441 00:33:24,545 --> 00:33:26,589 in situations where they were having fun. 442 00:33:26,798 --> 00:33:29,884 (wordless vocalizing) 443 00:33:31,094 --> 00:33:37,308 TOM: I need a certain atmosphere, a certain mood, it gets me excited. 444 00:33:37,934 --> 00:33:42,647 I often work dressed up in special outfits. 445 00:33:42,897 --> 00:33:49,070 It inspires me when I'm developing a fantasy. 446 00:33:50,363 --> 00:33:53,700 The uniforms date further back. 447 00:33:54,158 --> 00:33:57,286 They are from the period โ€” 448 00:33:57,495 --> 00:34:01,624 when I recognized myself and my own preferences โ€” 449 00:34:01,874 --> 00:34:03,418 namely the war years. 450 00:34:03,918 --> 00:34:05,795 BLAKE: Some of his earliest sexual experiences 451 00:34:06,004 --> 00:34:09,090 were with German soldiers during World War II. 452 00:34:09,298 --> 00:34:11,759 And he initially began drawing his fantasies 453 00:34:11,968 --> 00:34:13,177 of those encounters. 454 00:34:13,386 --> 00:34:16,055 (fast rock music) 455 00:34:28,693 --> 00:34:30,778 His work drew 456 00:34:31,654 --> 00:34:32,697 some of the 457 00:34:33,448 --> 00:34:36,659 representational tropes 458 00:34:36,868 --> 00:34:39,912 that were favored by 459 00:34:41,164 --> 00:34:45,001 sort of official artists under Nazi Germany. 460 00:34:45,209 --> 00:34:50,840 TOM: This urge to exaggerate was quite obvious โ€” 461 00:34:53,342 --> 00:34:57,555 in images used in propaganda. 462 00:34:59,307 --> 00:35:02,518 A striking outfit was used โ€” 463 00:35:02,935 --> 00:35:07,106 to accentuate authority and masculinity. 464 00:35:07,565 --> 00:35:10,026 BLAKE: Tom sort of took those influences 465 00:35:10,401 --> 00:35:14,530 and moved past the sort of allusions 466 00:35:14,739 --> 00:35:16,074 to sexuality 467 00:35:16,324 --> 00:35:19,869 that they contained, on to a more direct 468 00:35:20,078 --> 00:35:22,413 presentation of sexuality. 469 00:35:24,624 --> 00:35:27,293 There was this guy there who was head to toe leather, 470 00:35:27,502 --> 00:35:28,711 I mean I just 471 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,005 fell in love with him from the first moment. 472 00:35:31,756 --> 00:35:33,633 I lit his cigarettes a couple times, 473 00:35:33,841 --> 00:35:35,093 finally tried to talk to him. 474 00:35:35,301 --> 00:35:37,637 He turned around, looked me up one side and down the other. 475 00:35:37,845 --> 00:35:41,099 He said, "Who the fuck is this guy to be talkin' to me?" 476 00:35:41,307 --> 00:35:43,017 I was devastated. 477 00:35:43,226 --> 00:35:46,312 The owner of the bar, who was a big huge woman 478 00:35:46,562 --> 00:35:48,773 we all called Mother Marion, 479 00:35:48,981 --> 00:35:50,316 she saw what was going on and she saw 480 00:35:50,525 --> 00:35:51,484 that I was really hurt. 481 00:35:51,734 --> 00:35:53,277 She said, "If that's the kind of man you want, 482 00:35:53,486 --> 00:35:55,363 "you've got to be that kind of man." 483 00:35:56,489 --> 00:35:58,449 So that following week I went out, got myself 484 00:35:58,658 --> 00:36:01,828 a haircut and picked myself up a leather vest 485 00:36:02,036 --> 00:36:02,912 and went back in. 486 00:36:03,162 --> 00:36:06,207 I had on black boots, tightest jeans that I could find, 487 00:36:07,125 --> 00:36:09,001 white T-shirt, my vest. 488 00:36:09,210 --> 00:36:10,169 This same guy was there 489 00:36:10,378 --> 00:36:13,297 and he lit my cigarettes a couple times. 490 00:36:14,715 --> 00:36:16,717 And finally he just, he invited me back home. 491 00:36:16,926 --> 00:36:17,635 And I looked at him and said, 492 00:36:17,885 --> 00:36:20,429 "Who the fuck are you to talk to me?" 493 00:36:20,638 --> 00:36:21,639 He just looked at me like, 494 00:36:21,889 --> 00:36:23,516 how dare you talk to me that way? 495 00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:24,767 I said, "Don't you remember, that's what 496 00:36:24,976 --> 00:36:26,978 you said to me last week." 497 00:36:27,186 --> 00:36:29,355 Well the two of us did end up goin' together, 498 00:36:29,564 --> 00:36:31,107 we started a six-month romance. 499 00:36:31,816 --> 00:36:34,110 But you know, hey, I was attracted to it. 500 00:36:34,318 --> 00:36:37,238 And I went for it, and I became a leather man. 501 00:36:37,446 --> 00:36:40,575 (slow rhythmic music) 502 00:36:56,048 --> 00:36:58,634 MAN: It's a resonance, it's a ringing or a harmony 503 00:36:58,843 --> 00:37:00,845 that I feel when I'm in leather. 504 00:37:01,179 --> 00:37:07,894 TOM: Leather has lifelike qualities that kind of rub off on its user. 505 00:37:08,561 --> 00:37:13,482 I don't think leather is worn so much for practical reasons โ€” 506 00:37:13,691 --> 00:37:19,488 but more for the contact between leather and skin. 507 00:37:19,697 --> 00:37:21,073 MAN: It's just part of me. 508 00:37:21,282 --> 00:37:22,825 It's nothing that's out of the ordinary, 509 00:37:23,034 --> 00:37:24,535 it's nothing that's unusual. 510 00:37:24,744 --> 00:37:29,498 And most of my friends know me primarily in leather. 511 00:37:29,749 --> 00:37:30,541 In bed or not. 512 00:37:30,750 --> 00:37:34,003 TOM: It's like a substitute for a partner โ€” 513 00:37:34,337 --> 00:37:37,256 identification with another role. 514 00:37:39,342 --> 00:37:42,261 (rhythmic music) 515 00:37:46,349 --> 00:37:47,433 MAN: I dress like this because I know 516 00:37:47,642 --> 00:37:49,227 I feel good in it and I look good in it. 517 00:37:49,435 --> 00:37:52,271 Boots, chaps, bikers hats, 518 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,857 - gloves are real big for me. - The feel. 519 00:37:55,566 --> 00:37:57,193 The touch, the smell. 520 00:37:57,860 --> 00:38:00,446 The ability to enjoy oneself wearing leather. 521 00:38:01,405 --> 00:38:02,865 To be with other people in it, 522 00:38:03,074 --> 00:38:04,075 to know you have something in common. 523 00:38:04,325 --> 00:38:07,370 You know, the more these guys have on of these things or are 524 00:38:07,578 --> 00:38:09,247 presenting themselves this way the more I like it. 525 00:38:09,497 --> 00:38:11,666 We pride ourselves on the way we dress. 526 00:38:17,004 --> 00:38:22,051 TOM: In the early years, when these things were new to me โ€” 527 00:38:22,343 --> 00:38:26,681 leather was only worn by outdoor workers โ€” 528 00:38:26,889 --> 00:38:30,226 such as lumberjacks and truckdrivers. 529 00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:32,395 BLAKE: One of the most powerful things 530 00:38:32,603 --> 00:38:36,148 about Tom's imagery is that it's very based in 531 00:38:36,357 --> 00:38:39,485 contemporary images and ideas. 532 00:38:39,735 --> 00:38:42,363 Tom really took as his subject matter 533 00:38:42,571 --> 00:38:45,032 sort of proletariat men. 534 00:38:54,250 --> 00:38:55,835 MAN: Well, 535 00:38:56,043 --> 00:38:58,546 I was workin' for the Rio Grande Railroad 536 00:38:58,754 --> 00:39:02,717 on a steel gang, traveling from town to town, 537 00:39:02,925 --> 00:39:05,136 repairing and replacing track. 538 00:39:05,344 --> 00:39:08,347 So I was working with all these guys, big bodies. 539 00:39:08,556 --> 00:39:13,436 And I had a older cousin who came to live with me 540 00:39:13,644 --> 00:39:14,895 for the summertime. 541 00:39:15,104 --> 00:39:17,773 And one day I went through his suitcase 542 00:39:17,982 --> 00:39:21,235 and saw some of his Tom of Finland drawings. 543 00:39:21,485 --> 00:39:23,529 It reminded me a lot of people I worked with 544 00:39:23,738 --> 00:39:28,159 and I had always thought that the railroad is really hot, 545 00:39:28,367 --> 00:39:30,161 the guys are really hot. 546 00:39:31,329 --> 00:39:32,830 It just was amazing to me to see 547 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,500 somebody who drew the things that I saw. 548 00:39:36,709 --> 00:39:39,587 He showed me the same things that I found attractive, 549 00:39:39,795 --> 00:39:40,880 he emphasized. 550 00:39:44,008 --> 00:39:45,885 MAN 2: His drawings basically are blue collar men. 551 00:39:46,093 --> 00:39:49,013 And seeing two blue-collar men enjoying each other 552 00:39:49,221 --> 00:39:50,639 made it more acceptable to me. 553 00:39:50,848 --> 00:39:52,183 Up until that point, 554 00:39:52,391 --> 00:39:54,560 coming from a very blue-collar background, 555 00:39:54,769 --> 00:39:57,480 it was all I could see, all negative associations with it. 556 00:39:57,688 --> 00:39:59,440 When I finally did come out, it just made me be 557 00:39:59,648 --> 00:40:01,359 more comfortable with who I am, 558 00:40:01,567 --> 00:40:04,028 be more comfortable with the fact that I am gay 559 00:40:04,278 --> 00:40:05,905 - and I like other men. - BLAKE: Even when Tom 560 00:40:06,113 --> 00:40:08,657 uses something, like cowboys, 561 00:40:08,866 --> 00:40:11,619 it's constantly today's cowboys. 562 00:40:11,827 --> 00:40:14,246 It's not really a historical representation. 563 00:40:14,455 --> 00:40:15,956 There's a clear sense that they are actually 564 00:40:16,165 --> 00:40:18,000 related to contemporary-- 565 00:40:18,209 --> 00:40:22,505 Perhaps it has been more natural for me โ€” 566 00:40:22,755 --> 00:40:30,596 to develop my own fantasies and freedoms around this type of people. 567 00:40:31,514 --> 00:40:39,855 They have become the basic types in my collection. 568 00:40:41,857 --> 00:40:43,484 BLAKE: So that you are presented with a situation 569 00:40:43,692 --> 00:40:45,528 where there's a sort of world, 570 00:40:45,736 --> 00:40:47,863 a universe of Tom's that we enter into. 571 00:40:48,114 --> 00:40:51,033 (blues rock music) 572 00:41:19,854 --> 00:41:23,149 (distorted rock music) 573 00:41:33,451 --> 00:41:34,535 BLAKE: Tom's work is very interesting 574 00:41:34,743 --> 00:41:36,954 because it's almost a type of 575 00:41:38,622 --> 00:41:40,124 blueprint for 576 00:41:40,916 --> 00:41:43,961 the appearance of gay men 577 00:41:44,253 --> 00:41:48,007 in the latter part of the 20th century. 578 00:41:48,215 --> 00:41:51,385 They started to dress and comb their hair 579 00:41:51,594 --> 00:41:54,555 and take the stances, attitudes 580 00:41:54,763 --> 00:41:56,515 that were in his drawings. 581 00:41:56,724 --> 00:41:58,976 MAN: When I met Tom, he commented on my sideburns. 582 00:41:59,185 --> 00:42:00,978 I said, you know, they are no accident. 583 00:42:01,228 --> 00:42:04,023 That you did have a big part in why I have them, 584 00:42:04,231 --> 00:42:05,858 and why I've had them for years 585 00:42:06,066 --> 00:42:07,902 when it was not a fashion statement, 586 00:42:08,110 --> 00:42:10,279 and when people pointed and said, "What the fuck is that?" 587 00:42:10,488 --> 00:42:13,324 BLAKE: Tom presented a situation in which 588 00:42:13,532 --> 00:42:17,453 gay sex was linked to very real men. 589 00:42:17,661 --> 00:42:19,413 (rhythmic music) 590 00:42:38,390 --> 00:42:39,850 MAN 1: Since I found that attractive 591 00:42:40,059 --> 00:42:43,562 I thought it would be hot if 592 00:42:43,771 --> 00:42:46,690 I made myself look as close to that as I could. 593 00:42:46,899 --> 00:42:48,442 - MAN 2: I'm a Tom's man. - MAN 3: I am a Tom's man. 594 00:42:48,651 --> 00:42:50,319 - MAN 4: I'm a Tom's man. - MAN 5: I am Tom's man. 595 00:42:50,528 --> 00:42:51,529 MAN 6: I am Tom's. 596 00:42:51,737 --> 00:42:52,947 MAN 7: In an interview that I heard, 597 00:42:53,155 --> 00:42:56,700 Robert Mapplethorpe said that he believes fully 598 00:42:56,909 --> 00:42:59,411 that the image of gay men today 599 00:42:59,662 --> 00:43:02,122 in leather and uniform is directly related 600 00:43:02,331 --> 00:43:03,874 to Tom of Finland. 601 00:43:04,083 --> 00:43:06,210 BLAKE: The sort of gay macho look 602 00:43:06,418 --> 00:43:08,337 that Tom was very responsible for 603 00:43:08,546 --> 00:43:10,673 creating and disseminating 604 00:43:10,881 --> 00:43:13,217 went on to become sort of 605 00:43:13,425 --> 00:43:17,888 one of the major icons of sexuality in our culture today. 606 00:43:18,097 --> 00:43:21,892 Not only for gay men but also for straight people. 607 00:43:22,101 --> 00:43:24,436 And it's an influence that spread 608 00:43:24,645 --> 00:43:27,189 through the continuing fascination 609 00:43:27,398 --> 00:43:31,527 with the leather community, through films like 610 00:43:31,735 --> 00:43:34,405 Querelle, through the work of people like 611 00:43:34,613 --> 00:43:37,449 Robert Mapplethorpe and Herb Ritz. 612 00:43:38,576 --> 00:43:43,497 And through the images adopted by rock stars 613 00:43:43,706 --> 00:43:45,541 like Adam Ant or Madonna. 614 00:43:45,749 --> 00:43:47,918 (rock music) 615 00:43:57,344 --> 00:44:00,723 MAN: I'm in a sort of an alternative rock band in LA 616 00:44:00,931 --> 00:44:03,267 called Discipline. 617 00:44:03,475 --> 00:44:04,935 I'd always had this dream, 'cause certainly 618 00:44:05,144 --> 00:44:08,480 there's nothing I can really do to get my penis to be 619 00:44:08,689 --> 00:44:12,192 as large as the ones in his drawings, 620 00:44:12,401 --> 00:44:14,320 so I figured that when I made lots of money 621 00:44:14,528 --> 00:44:18,407 that perhaps I could commission Mr. Finland 622 00:44:18,616 --> 00:44:20,075 to do a portrait of myself 623 00:44:20,284 --> 00:44:24,330 in his style and exaggerate the necessary 624 00:44:24,538 --> 00:44:27,458 parts of myself to make this kind of uber-man 625 00:44:27,666 --> 00:44:30,919 for a record cover or something. (laughing) 626 00:44:32,755 --> 00:44:36,800 Tom's work actually served to undermine 627 00:44:37,009 --> 00:44:41,930 a lot of the traditional images of power in Western society. 628 00:44:42,139 --> 00:44:45,392 It took the sort of macho figure 629 00:44:45,601 --> 00:44:46,810 and sexualized it. 630 00:44:47,019 --> 00:44:53,192 It's really an idea that is exciting to me personally. 631 00:44:53,942 --> 00:45:00,157 To imagine that an unyielding wielder of power โ€” 632 00:45:00,407 --> 00:45:04,203 not necessarily an abuser โ€” 633 00:45:04,411 --> 00:45:09,041 turns out to be a soft, very human individual. 634 00:45:11,293 --> 00:45:14,463 Unleashing the fantasies reverses the roles. 635 00:45:16,090 --> 00:45:19,468 Take a policeman, for instance โ€” 636 00:45:19,677 --> 00:45:23,681 who abuses and exaggerates his power. 637 00:45:24,014 --> 00:45:29,269 Then a group of 'troublemakers' comes along โ€” 638 00:45:29,478 --> 00:45:33,607 and subjects this power wielder to a situation โ€” 639 00:45:33,816 --> 00:45:37,069 where he loses his power. 640 00:45:37,486 --> 00:45:40,698 Yet he enjoys, or has to enjoy the situation โ€” 641 00:45:40,906 --> 00:45:44,118 in a new, positive way. 642 00:45:50,165 --> 00:45:52,459 (pop music) 643 00:45:57,089 --> 00:45:59,174 MAN 1: Just another day's work. 644 00:45:59,383 --> 00:46:01,343 Just another day's work. 645 00:46:01,552 --> 00:46:03,262 Just another day's work. 646 00:46:03,470 --> 00:46:05,848 In the life of this policeman. 647 00:46:06,056 --> 00:46:08,058 Just another day's work. 648 00:46:08,267 --> 00:46:10,227 Just another day's work. 649 00:46:10,436 --> 00:46:12,438 Just another day's work. 650 00:46:12,646 --> 00:46:14,857 In the life of this policeman. 651 00:46:17,651 --> 00:46:20,154 MAN 2: Many of the policemen were sort of standard 652 00:46:20,362 --> 00:46:23,031 figures for sexual attraction for gay men. 653 00:46:25,367 --> 00:46:28,912 MAN 3: Police boots with motorcycle officers 654 00:46:29,538 --> 00:46:31,832 are just a real special turn-on. 655 00:46:32,124 --> 00:46:35,127 And watching a cop going down the street on his bike 656 00:46:35,335 --> 00:46:38,046 is sort of akin to what the old West 657 00:46:38,255 --> 00:46:40,007 and the sheriffs used to do. 658 00:46:40,215 --> 00:46:41,800 They're the replacement, the motorcycle's 659 00:46:42,050 --> 00:46:43,469 a replacement for the horse. 660 00:46:43,677 --> 00:46:45,888 The cops with their knee boots 661 00:46:46,138 --> 00:46:49,099 are replacing the sheriffs with their cowboy boots or chaps. 662 00:46:49,558 --> 00:46:52,978 So it's all part of a sensual experience 663 00:46:53,187 --> 00:46:56,106 and the raw power that they have, 664 00:46:56,315 --> 00:47:00,110 just being able to service others and to be served. 665 00:47:00,319 --> 00:47:01,779 That's a lot of fun. 666 00:47:02,446 --> 00:47:04,990 DEHNER: Total maleness, in regards to Tom of Finland, 667 00:47:05,199 --> 00:47:07,159 I think, is masculinity. 668 00:47:07,367 --> 00:47:08,827 Maybe there's a lot of brute force, 669 00:47:09,077 --> 00:47:10,204 but it always ends up 670 00:47:10,412 --> 00:47:14,291 with people having a sense of camaraderie and laughter. 671 00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:16,877 MAN 1 ON TAPE: Yeah, that'd be cute, yeah. 672 00:47:17,085 --> 00:47:19,880 Oh yeah, oh man, I'm gonna stuff it down you. 673 00:47:20,088 --> 00:47:21,965 Come on, I'm so hard man. 674 00:47:22,174 --> 00:47:22,841 MAN 2 ON TAPE: Okay. 675 00:47:23,050 --> 00:47:24,259 MAN 1 ON TAPE: Here it comes. 676 00:47:24,468 --> 00:47:26,303 - MAN 2 ON TAPE: Are you coming? - MAN 1 ON TAPE: Yeah. 677 00:47:26,512 --> 00:47:29,097 - (groaning) - BOTH: Oh, yeah. 678 00:47:29,306 --> 00:47:32,518 - MAN 1 ON TAPE: Yeah, man. - (groaning) 679 00:47:35,562 --> 00:47:36,897 MAN 2 ON TAPE: I'm comin'. 680 00:47:37,815 --> 00:47:40,025 (groaning) 681 00:47:44,988 --> 00:47:47,991 - (groaning) - MAN 2 ON TAPE: That's right. 682 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:49,743 - (groaning) - MAN 1 ON TAPE: Oh yeah. 683 00:47:49,952 --> 00:47:51,578 - MAN 2 ON TAPE: You feel good to me. - MAN 1 ON TAPE: Feel that. 684 00:47:51,787 --> 00:47:53,914 - MAN 1 ON TAPE: Felt good. - MAN 2 ON TAPE: Thank you. 685 00:47:54,122 --> 00:47:56,667 (rhythmic music) 686 00:47:58,585 --> 00:48:03,215 MAN: Tom managed to destroy the idea of the third sex, 687 00:48:03,465 --> 00:48:04,633 of the indeterminate sex. 688 00:48:04,842 --> 00:48:07,469 Which was always the image of gay people, 689 00:48:07,678 --> 00:48:12,182 that gay men were some sort of cross between men and women. 690 00:48:15,435 --> 00:48:17,688 You know, the other day a friend of mine 691 00:48:17,896 --> 00:48:19,523 who's a black guy here in LA 692 00:48:19,731 --> 00:48:23,652 told me a story about Tom, and it goes like this. 693 00:48:23,861 --> 00:48:27,489 Tom and I were out at a bar in LA and 694 00:48:27,698 --> 00:48:30,284 Tom went up to this other fellow and said, 695 00:48:30,534 --> 00:48:32,536 "Boy," he says, "I bet you could peel 696 00:48:32,744 --> 00:48:35,914 "the skin off an orange with those lips." 697 00:48:36,123 --> 00:48:38,292 And the guy, of course, had beautiful, big, 698 00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:40,210 thick black lips. 699 00:48:40,419 --> 00:48:44,756 And the fellow was rather insulted by Tom's comment. 700 00:48:45,632 --> 00:48:48,135 And not until about six months later 701 00:48:48,343 --> 00:48:50,721 when he drew this fellow 702 00:48:50,929 --> 00:48:53,348 with these beautiful, luscious black lips 703 00:48:53,557 --> 00:48:55,976 did the guy realize that it was a compliment. 704 00:48:56,184 --> 00:48:58,103 - Tom loves black guys-- - JULIEN: The white's eye 705 00:48:58,312 --> 00:49:03,150 for the other is perfectly described in Tom's drawings. 706 00:49:03,358 --> 00:49:04,818 There's a drawing in particular 707 00:49:05,068 --> 00:49:08,739 when black sexuality has been constructed 708 00:49:08,947 --> 00:49:12,576 through kind of white desire, white anxiety 709 00:49:12,993 --> 00:49:16,288 and white fantasies projected upon 710 00:49:16,538 --> 00:49:19,166 the black coven and I think, obviously, 711 00:49:19,374 --> 00:49:22,753 kind of like S and M has its limitations 712 00:49:22,961 --> 00:49:27,633 for most black people in our historical relationship 713 00:49:27,883 --> 00:49:32,471 to imperialism and post-colonialism and enslavery. 714 00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:34,973 (rock music) 715 00:49:58,538 --> 00:50:01,208 Within this kind of symbolic imaginary 716 00:50:01,416 --> 00:50:05,587 black men of course are gonna have the largest dicks. 717 00:50:06,213 --> 00:50:10,258 And in Tom's drawings that's obviously a compliment, 718 00:50:10,467 --> 00:50:11,134 I suppose. 719 00:50:11,343 --> 00:50:13,679 (rock music) 720 00:50:31,863 --> 00:50:35,867 TOM: In the early years homosexuality was banned โ€” 721 00:50:36,076 --> 00:50:39,329 in Finland and most other countries. 722 00:50:39,538 --> 00:50:43,083 This resulted in feelings of guilt โ€” 723 00:50:43,291 --> 00:50:47,462 which prevented people from showing their true feelings. 724 00:50:48,296 --> 00:50:51,800 Although I had to abide by these rules โ€” 725 00:50:52,050 --> 00:50:55,095 the situation was unnatural for me. 726 00:50:55,303 --> 00:51:00,976 My preferences were genuine, I was born with them. 727 00:51:01,309 --> 00:51:06,815 There was nothing learned, or sick, about them. 728 00:51:07,649 --> 00:51:09,317 MAN: He always shows his men 729 00:51:09,526 --> 00:51:13,280 in the most natural settings, in the most open areas, 730 00:51:13,488 --> 00:51:16,033 whether it's out in the countryside 731 00:51:16,241 --> 00:51:18,493 or on an open road or in the woods, 732 00:51:18,702 --> 00:51:21,830 rather than in a dark, secluded place. 733 00:51:22,164 --> 00:51:27,169 I wanted to give this group a boost, a justification โ€” 734 00:51:27,419 --> 00:51:30,505 if only in the form of pictures โ€” 735 00:51:33,550 --> 00:51:37,179 to say that they can express their feelings openly โ€” 736 00:51:37,512 --> 00:51:41,475 that smiling and feeling happy is permitted. 737 00:51:43,268 --> 00:51:50,734 I wanted to correct the injustices of real life through fantasy. 738 00:51:52,861 --> 00:51:57,032 This was a reflection of my own life. 739 00:51:57,866 --> 00:52:02,829 I needed to experience a human relationship โ€” 740 00:52:03,121 --> 00:52:07,709 as a warm, homely constructive thing โ€” 741 00:52:07,918 --> 00:52:13,799 where pure sex is not the overriding element. 742 00:52:15,008 --> 00:52:17,803 MAN: When I met him, he was in a relationship 743 00:52:18,053 --> 00:52:21,389 of 28 years with a man, whose name was Veli. 744 00:52:21,681 --> 00:52:24,726 I also needed to show โ€” 745 00:52:24,976 --> 00:52:30,273 that a very masculine-looking guy can have tender feelings. 746 00:52:30,482 --> 00:52:32,109 MAN: They had lived together I mean for 747 00:52:32,317 --> 00:52:34,903 that length of time, and they were very different. 748 00:52:35,112 --> 00:52:37,364 There is this contrast. 749 00:52:37,614 --> 00:52:41,368 The outside world expects you โ€” 750 00:52:42,285 --> 00:52:48,416 to look like a statue and behave in a macho manner. 751 00:52:48,667 --> 00:52:52,796 Yet, there is a living, feeling person inside. 752 00:52:53,255 --> 00:52:55,632 MAN: Veli was not interested in Tom's leather 753 00:52:55,841 --> 00:52:59,803 and uniform friends or his lifestyle. 754 00:53:00,011 --> 00:53:03,932 But was really a true partner for him 755 00:53:04,141 --> 00:53:05,225 in regards to protecting him. 756 00:53:05,433 --> 00:53:10,188 TOM: There were some 'couple pictures' and also some individual poses โ€” 757 00:53:10,522 --> 00:53:16,278 where I think I captured the right way to express it. 758 00:53:17,195 --> 00:53:20,240 DEHNER: It really was a very stable base for Tom. 759 00:53:20,448 --> 00:53:24,619 And after Veli passed away from cancer, 760 00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:27,539 Tom was sort of vacillating 761 00:53:27,747 --> 00:53:29,291 and actually came in closer 762 00:53:29,499 --> 00:53:33,670 to the brotherhood of people that were part of my family. 763 00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,091 So then was when he started coming to America. 764 00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:40,135 And I'd ask him sometimes, I'd say, 765 00:53:40,343 --> 00:53:42,053 "You know, why don't you wanna hang out 766 00:53:42,262 --> 00:53:44,181 with older people your same age?" 767 00:53:44,389 --> 00:53:46,683 And he'd say, "No," he says, "A lot of my life 768 00:53:46,892 --> 00:53:49,769 "is in being with people that are living, 769 00:53:50,020 --> 00:53:52,189 that are vibrant, that are young." 770 00:53:52,397 --> 00:53:55,817 (distorted rock music) 771 00:54:19,466 --> 00:54:24,012 My drawings are mainly aimed at individuals โ€” 772 00:54:24,221 --> 00:54:29,935 who may have experienced misunderstanding and oppression โ€” 773 00:54:30,143 --> 00:54:34,856 and feel that their own lives have gone wrong. 774 00:54:35,148 --> 00:54:38,068 I want to give them encouragement. 775 00:54:38,526 --> 00:54:42,572 I have never wanted to classify people. 776 00:54:42,822 --> 00:54:45,700 In my own experience โ€” 777 00:54:45,951 --> 00:54:49,829 everyone has something of everything in them โ€” 778 00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,749 but in different proportions. 779 00:54:52,958 --> 00:54:55,585 Nothing is totally alien to anyone. 780 00:54:55,835 --> 00:54:59,464 I want to encourage this minority group โ€” 781 00:54:59,673 --> 00:55:03,385 to tell them not to give up โ€” 782 00:55:03,593 --> 00:55:08,974 to think positively about their act and their whole being. 783 00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:11,977 (slow music) 784 00:55:30,537 --> 00:55:32,497 DEHNER: Tom was, like, the guest of honor that year. 785 00:55:32,706 --> 00:55:35,208 But he was like really, you know, shy 786 00:55:35,417 --> 00:55:37,252 about going up in front of the stage. 787 00:55:37,502 --> 00:55:40,797 And so my lover and the artist Etienne 788 00:55:41,006 --> 00:55:43,591 had to sort of go up with him. 789 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,845 And all of a sudden this shy man 790 00:55:47,053 --> 00:55:49,222 sort of started to feel the strength, 791 00:55:49,431 --> 00:55:51,641 and pretty soon he was sort of standing up there 792 00:55:51,850 --> 00:55:55,729 with his arms raised, and he was like proud. 793 00:55:55,937 --> 00:55:58,815 (slow jazz music) 63388

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