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[cars passing by]
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[man] It...
It's a bit of a walk, you know,
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from, you know,
back by the drummer over here.
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That walk to the front is...
is complicated.
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[elevator rattles]
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[Springsteen] Singing background remains
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a somewhat unheralded position,
you know.
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- So people make that leap.
- [piano playing]
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[singers harmonizing]
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[woman] So, what you guys
do on that part?
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I'll help you carry on
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[vocalizing]
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It's almost more of
a mental leap than...
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...than just the
physical act of singing.
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It's a conceptual leap,
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and if you can comfortably
come up with it, you know,
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then you may
find a spot out there.
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Carry on for...
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[Springsteen] But I know
tremendous backup singers
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who just aren't comfortable
in that position.
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You gotta have that narcissism,
you gotta have that ego.
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- [singing indistinctly]
- [man] So shall we do it?
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[Springsteen] It can be
a pretty long walk.
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- One, two, three!
- [audience cheering]
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[inhales]
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[Lou Reed: "Walk on the Wild Side"]
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[woman] There's a power
to what it is that we do.
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No one till right now has
publicly acknowledged it,
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but people love to see
the background singers.
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I mean, when you think about
Lou Reed, "Walk On The Wild Side,"
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you know, that iconic song with the line
that makes a lot of people uncomfortable
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because it says "colored girls."
But what is he... what is he referencing
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when he says, "And the colored
girls say do-do-do-do-do?"
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The fact that there's
a power to these women
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that stand on stage
and sing with these guys.
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[Talking Heads: "Slippery People"]
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Backup singers just bring so
much more life to the situation.
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When a voice opens up,
there comes the life.
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That's when it's a
person-to-person connection.
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What about the time
you were rolling over?
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You fall on your face
and you must be having fun
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Backsliding
How do you do?
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You don't hold on necessarily
to your individual vocal persona.
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God help us
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'Cause you're trying
to get your persona
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to blend and mesh with the other voices.
That's awesome.
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- What's the matter with him?
- He's all right
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- How do you know?
- The Lord won't mind
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- Don't play no games
- He's all right
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Love from the bottom
to the top
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- Turn like a wheel
- He's all right
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See for yourself...
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[woman] There's something that
happens when you lock in with somebody
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and all the harmonics ping,
and, I mean,
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if you don't like that,
what do you like?
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Cool down
Stop acting crazy
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They're gonna leave
and we'll be on our own
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I could... I could be different people,
a chameleon, you know.
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It's just like you could change up.
You're never bored.
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[music continues]
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I'm a part of the sisterhood.
I got to earn this.
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It wasn't just a dream that I had.
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I actually got to sing
these songs and sing on key.
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- Like a wheel
- He's all right
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- See for yourself
- The Lord won't mind
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- We're gonna move
- Right now
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Turn like a wheel
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[man] As a background singer,
they would like you to come in,
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make things sound great,
take very little credit...
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...and go home quickly.
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It's all right
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The Lord won't mind
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Right now
Turn like a wheel
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- Inside a wheel
- [audience cheering]
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- [piano playing]
- [woman] Thank you, Jesus.
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Thank you, Father.
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I will enter His gates
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With thanksgiving in my heart
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I will enter His courts with praise
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God gave us the ability
to create, didn't he?
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- [congregation] Yes, he did.
- OK.
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Today we're gonna pin
this down to music.
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He has made me glad
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He has made me glad
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I will rejoice for He has made me glad
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I see these kids doing this
slide, I said, "Oh, child."
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He think he got that
from, uh... James Brown.
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I said, "Oh, that came
from one of my pastors."
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He has made me glad
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He has made me glad
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I will rejoice for He has made me glad
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- My father was a minister.
- My father was a...
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- My father was a...
- Pastor's daughter.
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- Isn't that clichГ©?
- That's how I was actually
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- introduced to music.
- [woman] I started as a four-year-old.
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[woman 2]
All through grammar school.
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I will say this is the day
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You come up learning the part
that your voice actually fits in.
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Nobody tells you that's how singers
learn how to do background.
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Hallelujah, glory, glory.
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- [applause]
- Thank you, Lord.
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Thank you, Lord.
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God gave me this talent
and I intend to use it.
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And that's what my life
has really been all about,
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trying to make a success
of the gift that I have.
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[woman] Darlene Love is the one
that's the cause of all of this.
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Darlene Love and Fanita James,
The Blossoms.
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They were the first black
background singers
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- working in the studios.
- [music plays]
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Silver and gold
Silver and gold
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Everyone's searching
for silver and gold...
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When we first got into recordings,
it was totally white.
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You'll never find comfort
in silver and gold...
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[woman] They were all white girls,
and they were very tasteful.
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They could do arm movements
and they could, you know,
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get in and go...
go to the microphone
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and come out of the microphone,
but that was about it.
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Silver and gold, everyone's searching
Suppose silver and gold
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[Love] Because it was white singers.
We call them the readers.
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They couldn't do nothing without
that music sitting right in their face.
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People would see us walk in.
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They wondered what we were doing there.
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They handed us our music and we took it
like we was pros too,
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like we would really read this.
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[man] Then as you got
more into the music,
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people would want background
singers that were free enough
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to put feeling in what
they were singing.
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Not saying that
those singers back then
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didn't have feeling,
but they were
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committed to what
they saw on the paper.
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In silver and gold
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[audience cheering]
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- Shimmy, shimmy to and fro
- Oh, yeah
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Shimmy, shimmy to and fro...
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[woman] The song that was
coming from them was so raw.
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That's what it...
it was so raw, and so real,
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that it was hard to deny it.
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Shimmy shimmy
It's the dance of the day
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Shimmy shimmy
It's new this day
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Shimmy shimmy's
gonna help us too
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With mama and papa and you know who
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Shimmy shimmy in my soul
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Shimmy shimmy
We'll never grow old
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[Love] Now this is a surprise!
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This is history.
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None of us have sung together
in 30, 40 years.
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I was 15 when I first met them.
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- Ain't that something? Fifteen.
- That's not funny.
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That's not funny.
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But we were really white
before you got in,
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- and then you added it...
- We had a sweet sound.
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She brought guts and...
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...that bottom gospel thing
and it made it perfect.
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- Shimmy shimmy
- Oh, yeah
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[Wright] They made that platform theirs.
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The Blossoms made it theirs,
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and when they came in,
every producer in California
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and everywhere else, that's the sound
they wanted. That was from The Blossoms.
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- [audience cheering]
- [music continues]
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All you had to do is tell them
in what direction you were headed,
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and they took you there.
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[Bobby Pickett: "Monster Mash"]
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- See when we had to sound white?
- Yeah, uh-huh.
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[Frank Sinatra: "That's Life"]
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[Betty Everett:
"The Shoop Shoop Song"]
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I met him on a Monday
and my heart my stood still
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Da-do-ron-ron-ron
Da-do-ron-ron
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[woman] What was unique about
The Blossoms, we could change our sound.
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[woman] We worked with people
from Buck Owens to James Brown.
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Yes, my heart stood still
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Yes, his name was Bill
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And when he walked me home
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Da-do-ron-ron-ron
Da-do-ron-ron
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[laughing] That was perfect,
without even rehearsing.
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[Wright] The amazing thing about
Darlene and Fanita and Jean
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is that they weren't afraid
of anybody else that did what they did.
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And if that producer
asked for a particular person
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that could do something,
Darlene would say,
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"That's not what I do,
but I know a girl that can do it."
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And that's how she'll get in,
and that's how Merry got in.
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- [music plays on radio]
- [woman] Can you turn off the radio?
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There...
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I mean, how could you not have music on,
Morgan, in the Merry Clayton car?
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- [woman] I know, right?
- That's just...
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That's not even logical to me.
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[man] See, it's much better
for us to add the music later.
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I know it, but I'm just saying,
Morgan, how could you...
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How could you logically not
have a diva have her music on?
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I don't get that.
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[piano music plays]
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[man] Merry Clayton was always
the lead background singer,
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but she was always a little
set apart from that group.
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Well, I am a sister
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- Who can sing
- [crowd responding]
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I am a sister who can sing
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Oh, but if I die
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And my soul be lost
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Nobody's fault but mine
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[Wright] I started going
to summer school with Merry,
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and she'd start singing down
the street, and I'd go like,
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"This girl is amazing."
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Nobody's fault but mine
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Said nobody's fault
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Nobody's fault but mine
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I said that no one's fault
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- If l die...
- [Wright] She had no, uh,
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no hidden agendas about it.
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She just, "That's what I do."
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Oh, if I die
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And my soul be lost, yeah
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Nobody's fault
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But mine
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Nobody's fault
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[Clayton] Ray Charles.
He was the only artist
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that my father
would allow us to go and see,
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and I'd stand at the end of the stage
with my hand under my chin.
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I'd say, "Mm-hmm, I could do this.
I'm gonna be a Raelette one day."
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I willed myself to be a Raelette.
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Now here are the Raelettes
to help us from this portion on.
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- [Ray Charles: "What'd I Say"]
- Mm!
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[Clayton] So I was sitting
at home one day,
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and I got a call from Billy Preston.
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"This Bill, what are you doing?"
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"Putting some clothes away."
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"You gotta drop it and you
have to come and sing for Ray."
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Oh
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When you see me in misery
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Come on, baby
See about me now
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No, it don't matter
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[Clayton] And, of course, you know,
I was totally full of myself by then.
231
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I knew the whole spectrum of what you
were supposed to do as a singer.
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See the girl
with the red dress on
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She can filly dog
all night long
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[Clayton] But I didn't know anything
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about being an entertainer.
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_;Hey
_;Hey
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- Ho
- Ho
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- Hey, ho
- Hey, ho
239
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- Hey, ho
- Hey, ho
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Oh, it's all right
241
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You know it's all right, baby
242
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[Clayton] He said,
"Yes, you're a lead singer,
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but you're singing with
three other ladies, Sister Merry.
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So we're gonna teach you
how to sing
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- with three other people. "
- You know it's all right
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It's all right
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[man] He's the minister.
The Raelettes are the choir.
248
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He brings that same church format
to playing popular music.
249
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Yet he's singing about sex.
250
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- Shake that thing
- Shake that thing
251
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- Hey, baby
- Shake that thing
252
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[Wonder] Can you imagine
"What'd I Say" that I said already,
253
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without kind of an answer
to that?
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Mmm
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Oooh
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Uhh... uhh...
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laughs]
258
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- Shake that thing
- Shake it, baby
259
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- Shake that thing
- Shake that thing
260
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He did a song called
"Together Again."
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Oh, Lord, I could not
find the second part.
262
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I couldn't hear it.
263
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I did not hit the note,
he took his finger
264
00:15:26,927 --> 00:15:29,220
and banged out my note
on the piano,
265
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and 5,000 people
were in the audience,
266
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five... huge show in
Madison Square Garden somewhere.
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Bang,bang,bang,bang.
He banged out this note.
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After that, I remembered everything.
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I was not gonna be made
to look like a fool. [laughs]
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- Baby, let's go home
- Yeah, let's go home
271
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- Baby, let's go home
- Go home, baby
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- Baby, let's go home
- Oh!
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[song ends]
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[woman] A lot of background
singers are just background singers.
275
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They don't wanna do all the drama that
accompanies trying to be a solo artist.
276
00:16:06,299 --> 00:16:08,718
Actually, very interesting, if you're
talking about background singers,
277
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because Lisa made recordings
as a solo artist
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and she's a brilliant entertainer.
She's really funny.
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Sings her butt off.
Could sing alone all day long,
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but doesn't particularly
want to.
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[cell phone alarm rings]
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[sighs] Hola.
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I don't wanna go to school.
[laughs]
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[singing scat]
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[Fischer] I remember when my mom
took me to kindergarten.
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I told the teacher, it's like,
"I wrote a song," right?
287
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"I wanna sing it for the class."
288
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She's like, "Oh, yay, good."
I just wouldn't stop.
289
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She had to stop me.
Now she's like, "That was fun."
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[continues singing scat]
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[Lawry] Being with Lisa
is really inspiring,
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because she's a monster musician.
She just doesn't really talk about it.
293
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I mean, she's as good as it gets.
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[scat continues]
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[man] Everyone knew
who Lisa Fischer was.
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She was the talk of the town
at the time.
297
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It was strange for me to actually see
her standing next to two other singers.
298
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It was weird for me.
299
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She's an incredible artist that
stands in front of that room,
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in front of everyone, and demands their
attention in a really graceful way.
301
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[scat continues]
302
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I love melodies.
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I'm... I'm in love with the...
304
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...the sound vibration and...
305
00:18:14,844 --> 00:18:17,305
...and what it
does with other people.
306
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It's familiar, but it's so special
307
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and you're just so happy
when you get there.
308
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And you try to stay there
for as long as you can.
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[continues scat]
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[Austin] She's the
empress of that world,
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and, you know, it might not
look like she's ego'd out,
312
00:18:46,626 --> 00:18:50,130
but it takes a lot of ego to decide
you're gonna take that position.
313
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'Cause there's a lot of background
singers out there, and she's held...
314
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She's held that fort down
for a long time.
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[scat continues]
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[Fischer] For me,
singing is about a sharing.
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It's never a competition.
But there's this other energy sometimes
318
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that I see going on that just
makes me insane, you know.
319
00:19:09,941 --> 00:19:13,069
Gee, who can I call to introduce me
to so and so and such and such,
320
00:19:13,236 --> 00:19:15,780
but it just... I don't know,
something about that feels slimy to me.
321
00:19:15,947 --> 00:19:17,490
I don't know why.
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[Fischer vocalizing softly]
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Yeah
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[chuckles]
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To me, there's no more heavenly
instrument than the voice.
326
00:19:38,678 --> 00:19:43,474
You can be a great player and you can
play things that really move people,
327
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but the voice is the one thing
that we all are born with.
328
00:19:47,645 --> 00:19:50,607
I mean, there's so many great singers
who are such a massive presence
329
00:19:50,773 --> 00:19:54,027
on so many rock records, people that we
don't necessarily know their names,
330
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but that had a huge impact.
331
00:19:57,655 --> 00:20:00,742
I remember, um, yeah, there
was a Phil Spector special on.
332
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Um, maybe '65-ish.
333
00:20:04,370 --> 00:20:06,372
Every evening
when the sun goes down
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- Whoo
- [Spector] Hold it. Cut.
335
00:20:10,418 --> 00:20:13,755
[Lasley] And Darlene Love
and The Blossoms were doing this song
336
00:20:13,922 --> 00:20:16,216
that Phil was playing piano on.
337
00:20:16,382 --> 00:20:20,136
Every morning
when the sun goes down
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- Whoo
- Whoo
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I lay my head
on the pillow down
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And I was like 16 maybe.
lt just went, like, pow!
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That's what you're gonna do.
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- [man] Here we go.
- Hey.
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- Hi, Darlene.
- Robert.
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00:20:39,072 --> 00:20:41,950
How about, uh, "Christmas
(Baby Please Come Home)."
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- Christmas
- Snow coming down
346
00:20:45,954 --> 00:20:49,624
- Christmas
- I'm watching it fall
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Christmas
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[Love] Phil Spector
was the one that started
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with the Wall of Sound.
He wanted everybody to know
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00:20:55,755 --> 00:20:57,799
it was a Phil Spector session,
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00:20:57,966 --> 00:21:00,176
not a Darlene Love session
or a Crystals session.
352
00:21:00,343 --> 00:21:02,387
It was a Phil Spector session.
353
00:21:02,553 --> 00:21:04,847
They're ringing a song
354
00:21:05,014 --> 00:21:07,600
- Christmas
- What a happy sound
355
00:21:07,767 --> 00:21:12,480
They sound so young. Well, they are.
I was 18. I am now 70.
356
00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:16,025
[Springsteen] The Spector records...
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00:21:16,192 --> 00:21:18,111
and it's funny,
'cause though that was a sound
358
00:21:18,278 --> 00:21:21,739
we tried to capture ourselves
for many, many years.
359
00:21:21,906 --> 00:21:26,244
And did not, because we didn't realize
it was the sound of youth,
360
00:21:26,411 --> 00:21:28,204
of very young people.
361
00:21:29,455 --> 00:21:30,832
And here Darlene not only had
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00:21:30,999 --> 00:21:32,667
the incredible personality,
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00:21:32,834 --> 00:21:36,129
but she was a vocal powerhouse.
She captures...
364
00:21:36,296 --> 00:21:40,216
Whatever it is, she captures
that particular sound, you know.
365
00:21:40,383 --> 00:21:42,343
Amazing, isn't it?
366
00:21:42,510 --> 00:21:46,848
[laughs] I was talented
and didn't know it.
367
00:21:47,015 --> 00:21:49,600
When we went in to do
"He's a Rebel" I knew it was gonna be
368
00:21:49,767 --> 00:21:52,020
for a group he had in New York.
369
00:21:52,186 --> 00:21:53,938
And I went, "This song ain't
gonna do nothin' no way.
370
00:21:54,105 --> 00:21:55,648
Let's just go in,
take the money."
371
00:21:55,815 --> 00:21:58,234
And it was my first lead voice.
372
00:21:58,401 --> 00:21:59,986
["He's A Rebel"]
373
00:22:00,153 --> 00:22:02,488
See the way he walks down the street
374
00:22:02,655 --> 00:22:06,159
Watch the way he shuffles his feet
375
00:22:06,326 --> 00:22:08,161
My, he holds his head up high
376
00:22:08,328 --> 00:22:10,830
When he goes walking by
377
00:22:10,997 --> 00:22:14,167
Darlene did a lot of ghosting
for records that came out
378
00:22:14,334 --> 00:22:15,543
with other people's names on them.
379
00:22:15,710 --> 00:22:18,504
Not just one of the crowd
380
00:22:20,089 --> 00:22:22,550
[Love] The Crystals were out
on the road with Gene Pitney,
381
00:22:22,717 --> 00:22:25,470
and the record was climbing
the charts, going to number one
382
00:22:25,636 --> 00:22:28,139
and they had never
heard the song before.
383
00:22:28,306 --> 00:22:31,392
He's a rebel
and he'll never be any good
384
00:22:31,559 --> 00:22:34,937
He's a rebel 'cause he never
ever does what he should
385
00:22:35,104 --> 00:22:39,233
But just because he doesn't
do what everybody else does
386
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,654
That's no reason why
I can't give him all my love
387
00:22:43,821 --> 00:22:47,492
It's pretty debilitating
to the spirit, I think,
388
00:22:47,658 --> 00:22:51,913
to sit at home and watch
the song that you sang,
389
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,750
and there's someone else lip-synching
and no one knows that you did it.
390
00:22:55,917 --> 00:23:00,505
That's no reason why
we can't share a love
391
00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:02,256
He is always good to me...
392
00:23:02,423 --> 00:23:04,717
[Love] What hurt is when people
hear it on the radio
393
00:23:04,884 --> 00:23:07,011
and they go, "Wow, The Crystals.
That's a great song."
394
00:23:07,178 --> 00:23:11,224
And they sitting there telling me that,
not knowing I did it.
395
00:23:13,476 --> 00:23:15,561
After the success
of "He's A Rebel,"
396
00:23:15,728 --> 00:23:17,480
that's when I said, "OK...
397
00:23:17,647 --> 00:23:19,148
He knows how to make hit songs,
398
00:23:19,315 --> 00:23:20,900
so now I need to sign with him."
399
00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:22,735
First of all he changed my name
from Darlene Wright
400
00:23:22,902 --> 00:23:25,071
to Darlene Love,
and my first record
401
00:23:25,238 --> 00:23:26,864
was supposed to be
"He's Sure The Boy I Love."
402
00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:29,784
So we go into the studio.
I'm signed with him now.
403
00:23:29,951 --> 00:23:32,412
Everything is legal. We record
"He's Sure The Boy I Love,"
404
00:23:32,578 --> 00:23:34,997
and I'm tootling down
the street couple of months later
405
00:23:35,164 --> 00:23:37,792
and I hear the disc jockey say,
"Well, the new record by The Crystals."
406
00:23:37,959 --> 00:23:41,629
And I'm going, "Crystals? What'd he do?
Fly them in?" He didn't tell us.
407
00:23:42,505 --> 00:23:48,136
No, it was my voice on "He's Sure
The Boy I Love." So I was really pissed.
408
00:23:50,179 --> 00:23:54,100
[man] You couldn't fit two stars
in the room at the same time,
409
00:23:54,267 --> 00:23:57,437
so Phil Spector really
kept her in a box.
410
00:23:57,603 --> 00:23:59,689
The best material that she was
putting out
411
00:23:59,856 --> 00:24:01,691
wasn't even coming
out under her name.
412
00:24:01,858 --> 00:24:04,360
[Santos] What did you think
after this song became a hit?
413
00:24:04,527 --> 00:24:06,988
Mad.
414
00:24:07,155 --> 00:24:10,158
'Cause this was
a Darlene Love record.
415
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:18,374
I'm always amazed at how many
backup vocalists I've heard
416
00:24:18,541 --> 00:24:22,712
and I've encountered who kill me,
who I hear 'em and I think,
417
00:24:22,879 --> 00:24:25,798
"Man, you're as good as Chaka Khan."
There's a lot of them.
418
00:24:25,965 --> 00:24:28,176
You won't believe it, man.
Like, um...
419
00:24:28,342 --> 00:24:32,096
Tata Vega, who is an
unbelievably great vocalist
420
00:24:32,263 --> 00:24:35,475
and is up there with Aretha. I mean,
and... and I'm looking at that,
421
00:24:35,641 --> 00:24:38,186
and I'm thinking to myself,
"What're you doing?"
422
00:24:38,352 --> 00:24:40,730
Speak, Lord
423
00:24:42,231 --> 00:24:44,901
Speak to me
424
00:24:45,568 --> 00:24:49,572
Oh, speak Lord
425
00:24:49,739 --> 00:24:52,700
Won't you speak to me?
426
00:24:52,867 --> 00:24:55,912
[Vega] I just loved music, is all.
427
00:24:56,078 --> 00:24:57,163
It's all I wanted to do.
428
00:24:57,330 --> 00:25:00,750
I was so lost
429
00:25:00,917 --> 00:25:04,337
I was 16 and I said,
"I wanna go to California.
430
00:25:04,504 --> 00:25:09,550
I don't wanna go to school. I wanna be
a famous singer." Very selfish.
431
00:25:09,717 --> 00:25:12,929
And my dad said, "All right."
432
00:25:13,095 --> 00:25:16,265
[harmonizing vocals]
433
00:25:21,270 --> 00:25:25,316
You had more of a opportunity
on the west coast.
434
00:25:25,483 --> 00:25:28,528
You had exposure.
435
00:25:28,694 --> 00:25:31,697
- Us growing up here in LA...
- [woman] Mm-hmm.
436
00:25:31,864 --> 00:25:34,617
- ...was really...
- Hollywood always
437
00:25:34,784 --> 00:25:36,452
right down the street.
438
00:25:36,619 --> 00:25:38,454
So we had serious advantage.
439
00:25:38,621 --> 00:25:40,373
Especially with the Motown people.
440
00:25:40,540 --> 00:25:41,749
- With the Motown...
- Yes.
441
00:25:41,916 --> 00:25:43,918
Oh, my God. But I remember
442
00:25:44,085 --> 00:25:46,045
too coming up, uh,
we would do the long sessions
443
00:25:46,212 --> 00:25:48,464
and we would be going
home in the morning.
444
00:25:48,631 --> 00:25:50,550
- That's right.
- And people would be
445
00:25:50,716 --> 00:25:51,759
just going to work.
446
00:25:51,926 --> 00:25:53,678
[harmonizing vocals continue]
447
00:25:53,844 --> 00:25:58,266
Oh, my gosh, Stevie Wonder.
He was it for me.
448
00:25:58,432 --> 00:26:02,144
Tata Vega, uh... incredible voice.
449
00:26:02,311 --> 00:26:04,647
Somebody introduced me,
you know, "This is Tata Vega."
450
00:26:04,814 --> 00:26:07,692
"Mm-hmm. Nice to meet you."
And he kept going. I went,
451
00:26:07,858 --> 00:26:10,403
"OK, I gotta do something.
There's a piano."
452
00:26:10,570 --> 00:26:12,655
The only four little teeny
chords I know.
453
00:26:12,822 --> 00:26:15,199
And I heard this girl
doing all these riffs and like,
454
00:26:15,366 --> 00:26:16,742
I said, "Oh, my God," you know.
455
00:26:16,909 --> 00:26:20,871
He came back.
He said, "You sound like me."
456
00:26:21,038 --> 00:26:23,457
Is that her? Is that the
same person? It's like...
457
00:26:23,624 --> 00:26:24,917
Yeah!
458
00:26:25,084 --> 00:26:28,379
I just loved music is all.
459
00:26:28,546 --> 00:26:29,839
It's all I wanted to do.
460
00:26:30,006 --> 00:26:31,007
[Tata Vega:
"Let's Make A Better World"]
461
00:26:31,173 --> 00:26:32,758
Oh, listen
462
00:26:32,925 --> 00:26:36,637
The world we know
was built on skill
463
00:26:36,804 --> 00:26:39,473
That alone don't count
464
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,017
[chuckles]
465
00:26:41,183 --> 00:26:43,519
Ah, you know without the sweat
466
00:26:43,686 --> 00:26:47,898
And toil of mind
it wouldn't be worth a dime
467
00:26:48,065 --> 00:26:50,568
[Springsteen] It goes back, like I say,
to the church call and response.
468
00:26:50,735 --> 00:26:54,030
Pull a fish from the water
to the people from the water
469
00:26:54,196 --> 00:26:57,575
To the river to the bank
to the happy to the sad
470
00:26:57,742 --> 00:26:59,535
Through the first
through the last
471
00:26:59,702 --> 00:27:02,747
There's that guy out front,
testifying,
472
00:27:02,913 --> 00:27:07,460
and then there's sorta the community
behind him, you know, amen'ing.
473
00:27:07,627 --> 00:27:10,796
Everybody, let's sing
Sing, sing
474
00:27:10,963 --> 00:27:14,759
Well, everybody
Let's sing sing, sing, sing
475
00:27:14,925 --> 00:27:17,011
[Springsteen] That was sort of
the backup sound
476
00:27:17,178 --> 00:27:20,723
that came straight out of gospel
and the church and was secularized.
477
00:27:20,890 --> 00:27:23,684
That was a sound
of worldly knowledge. [laughs]
478
00:27:23,851 --> 00:27:27,188
[soul music plays]
479
00:27:29,148 --> 00:27:31,567
[woman] Ike Turner, oh my
goodness. Ike and Tina Turner.
480
00:27:31,776 --> 00:27:33,569
I just... I couldn't believe
481
00:27:33,736 --> 00:27:36,572
he asked me if I wanted to start
working right away.
482
00:27:36,739 --> 00:27:39,367
And I said, "Well, yes, of course."
483
00:27:39,533 --> 00:27:41,702
But little did I know
he meant that week.
484
00:27:41,869 --> 00:27:43,996
[soul music continues]
485
00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:51,712
[Lennear] I think we were
the first action figures of R&B,
486
00:27:51,879 --> 00:27:54,006
[laughs] The lkettes,
487
00:27:54,173 --> 00:27:56,884
the Ike and Tina Turner Review.
488
00:28:00,971 --> 00:28:03,224
[Mid/er] The girls were
absolutely sensational.
489
00:28:03,391 --> 00:28:04,934
Tina was a force of nature,
of course,
490
00:28:05,101 --> 00:28:06,727
but they were
no slouches either.
491
00:28:06,894 --> 00:28:09,021
They were fantastic.
492
00:28:13,901 --> 00:28:16,237
It was what, peace, love
and happiness and, you know,
493
00:28:16,404 --> 00:28:18,989
women burning their bras,
you know, women's lib,
494
00:28:19,156 --> 00:28:24,120
and the timing was just right
for that way to present yourself.
495
00:28:24,286 --> 00:28:27,998
[soul music plays]
496
00:28:35,881 --> 00:28:36,882
[Tina Turner: "Bold Soul Sister"]
497
00:28:37,049 --> 00:28:39,927
- Oh!
- Oh, no
498
00:28:40,094 --> 00:28:42,346
[Boyd] Ike Turner saw himself
as a pimp,
499
00:28:42,513 --> 00:28:46,809
and he saw his backup singers,
even his wife...
500
00:28:46,976 --> 00:28:49,103
- I do what I wanna do
- ...as the women
501
00:28:49,270 --> 00:28:50,646
who worked for him, his hos.
502
00:28:50,813 --> 00:28:51,897
Do what you wanna
503
00:28:52,064 --> 00:28:53,107
When you wanna
504
00:28:53,274 --> 00:28:55,151
Now do your thing, soul sister
505
00:28:55,317 --> 00:28:58,988
[Lennear] He made sure
that you had a certain look
506
00:28:59,155 --> 00:29:01,741
and that you were able
to walk a certain way
507
00:29:01,907 --> 00:29:03,659
and dance a certain way.
508
00:29:03,826 --> 00:29:06,162
Now I'm gonna try
509
00:29:06,328 --> 00:29:08,164
[Mabry] There are still
artists right now
510
00:29:08,330 --> 00:29:10,624
that view a backup singer
as eye candy.
511
00:29:10,791 --> 00:29:13,544
Personally, that's not backup singing.
That's just playing a role.
512
00:29:13,711 --> 00:29:14,795
Let me see you
513
00:29:14,962 --> 00:29:16,881
[woman] There's one artist
that I've worked with.
514
00:29:17,631 --> 00:29:21,218
I just get chills when I think
about how I just was so demoralized,
515
00:29:21,385 --> 00:29:25,389
um, at the office.
We were basically naked.
516
00:29:25,556 --> 00:29:29,393
Dress code:
"Make guys excite."
517
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,020
Let me see it
518
00:29:31,854 --> 00:29:32,980
Let me see you
519
00:29:34,190 --> 00:29:35,483
You and I
520
00:29:36,859 --> 00:29:38,611
[Lennear] You know, I tried to look nice
521
00:29:38,778 --> 00:29:41,530
and I tried to carry myself
in a decent way,
522
00:29:41,697 --> 00:29:45,075
but how it comes across, I mean,
I don't set out to say,
523
00:29:45,242 --> 00:29:47,912
"I'm going to be
the sex symbol tonight."
524
00:29:48,078 --> 00:29:49,789
[man] But you posed in Playboy.
525
00:29:51,540 --> 00:29:52,625
[Sighs]
526
00:29:55,878 --> 00:29:58,798
There was something in Playboy,
yes, there was.
527
00:30:06,931 --> 00:30:10,976
- [song ends]
- [applause]
528
00:30:17,149 --> 00:30:21,195
[Love] The English rock scene
was just a... a phenomenon.
529
00:30:21,362 --> 00:30:22,863
They were trying
to sound black.
530
00:30:23,030 --> 00:30:25,533
Most all of them tried
to sound black.
531
00:30:25,699 --> 00:30:27,243
And the only way they
could get that sound,
532
00:30:27,409 --> 00:30:29,411
they had to use us
to get that sound.
533
00:30:29,578 --> 00:30:33,457
Like Led Zeppelin, for example.
Robert Plant or Joe Cooker even.
534
00:30:33,624 --> 00:30:34,625
[Joe Cooker:
"Learning To Live Together"]
535
00:30:34,792 --> 00:30:36,627
Once while traveling
536
00:30:36,794 --> 00:30:38,838
Across the sky
537
00:30:40,464 --> 00:30:44,635
This lovely planet
caught my eye
538
00:30:44,802 --> 00:30:47,721
Many years ago,
when I was singing with Ray,
539
00:30:47,888 --> 00:30:52,685
and I saw this guy contorting
in the front row of this concert.
540
00:30:52,852 --> 00:30:53,936
So I'm standing like this,
541
00:30:54,103 --> 00:30:55,521
and I'm telling the rest
of the girls through my teeth,
542
00:30:55,688 --> 00:30:57,648
"Who is that guy?
What's wrong with him?"
543
00:30:57,815 --> 00:31:01,777
Until we die
544
00:31:01,944 --> 00:31:05,739
Until we die
545
00:31:05,906 --> 00:31:09,660
We're just learning to live together
546
00:31:09,827 --> 00:31:12,913
Learning to live together
547
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:18,544
Learning to live together till we die
548
00:31:18,711 --> 00:31:21,171
But what I loved about
working with Joe
549
00:31:21,338 --> 00:31:24,425
is that he let us be ourselves.
550
00:31:26,343 --> 00:31:28,220
In England, they were like,
"Go for it.
551
00:31:28,387 --> 00:31:30,514
Give us all you have."
552
00:31:30,681 --> 00:31:33,893
That... it was the reason for
the innovation of rock and roll.
553
00:31:34,059 --> 00:31:36,979
Oooh
554
00:31:37,146 --> 00:31:40,608
Ooh-hoo
555
00:31:40,774 --> 00:31:44,069
- Ooh
- Whoo!
556
00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:46,822
[Lennear] He gave us free rein,
557
00:31:46,989 --> 00:31:49,533
and everybody's face
would light up, you know.
558
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:51,619
Whoo!
559
00:31:51,785 --> 00:31:53,829
Ooh
560
00:31:53,996 --> 00:31:55,998
And somebody would
start singing something,
561
00:31:56,165 --> 00:31:58,125
or someone would
start playing something
562
00:31:58,292 --> 00:32:00,127
and everybody just...
563
00:32:00,294 --> 00:32:03,297
Until we die
564
00:32:03,464 --> 00:32:07,134
Until we die
565
00:32:07,301 --> 00:32:10,012
Well, we're learning to live together
566
00:32:10,179 --> 00:32:14,433
And then when I got to A&M, I was coming
down the stairs from Lou's office.
567
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,978
Joe was coming on the lot from
that front gate and he said,
568
00:32:18,145 --> 00:32:19,855
"There she bloody is."
569
00:32:20,022 --> 00:32:22,399
He said, "I want you to
work on all of my records."
570
00:32:24,902 --> 00:32:26,403
Learning to live together
571
00:32:26,570 --> 00:32:28,072
At any moment,
you would see
572
00:32:28,238 --> 00:32:30,324
James Taylor
coming down the hallway,
573
00:32:30,491 --> 00:32:33,911
or you'd see Carole coming out,
saying, "Come sing with me."
574
00:32:34,078 --> 00:32:37,122
Till we die
575
00:32:41,001 --> 00:32:43,253
Let me in, honey,
to my other home.
576
00:32:44,755 --> 00:32:46,757
Whoo!
577
00:32:46,924 --> 00:32:51,261
[The Rolling Stones:
"Gimme Shelter"]
578
00:32:54,556 --> 00:32:56,809
What a great studio.
579
00:32:56,976 --> 00:33:00,020
Boy, did we have some times
in this studio.
580
00:33:00,187 --> 00:33:03,273
[music continues]
581
00:33:06,610 --> 00:33:09,989
So it was like very late at
night and I was very,
582
00:33:10,155 --> 00:33:11,615
you know, a little pregnant.
583
00:33:11,782 --> 00:33:13,826
Had curlers and the whole thing
in my hair,
584
00:33:13,993 --> 00:33:15,869
getting ready to go to bed.
And we got a call
585
00:33:16,036 --> 00:33:20,624
"Merry, there's a group of guys
in town called Rolling...
586
00:33:20,791 --> 00:33:23,585
...The Rolling somebodies
and they're from England,
587
00:33:23,752 --> 00:33:27,506
and they need somebody
that will sing with them."
588
00:33:27,673 --> 00:33:31,010
They picked me up
with silk pajamas on,
589
00:33:31,176 --> 00:33:34,805
a mink coat,
and a Chanel scarf on my head.
590
00:33:34,972 --> 00:33:38,434
[man] We said, "It'd be wonderful if
a woman sang this part about,
591
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,061
that I'd written about rape,
murder and all this.
592
00:33:41,228 --> 00:33:43,731
It was in the middle of the
night and we thought,
593
00:33:43,897 --> 00:33:45,607
"Well, we would love
to have a woman sing this part."
594
00:33:45,774 --> 00:33:47,901
I didn't know her from Adam.
595
00:33:48,068 --> 00:33:49,486
Then she turned up
in her curlers.
596
00:33:49,653 --> 00:33:51,238
She was in bed
and she got outta bed.
597
00:33:51,405 --> 00:33:53,907
And, you know, it was
a kind of raunchy part to sing.
598
00:33:54,074 --> 00:33:55,909
I said, "What?
599
00:33:57,953 --> 00:34:01,040
Rape, murder?
It's just a shot away?"
600
00:34:01,206 --> 00:34:06,170
I started to sing: "It's just a shot
away, just a shot away" with Mick.
601
00:34:06,336 --> 00:34:09,465
She sings the lyrics right along me,
and with a lot of personality,
602
00:34:09,631 --> 00:34:10,841
which is what was needed.
603
00:34:11,008 --> 00:34:13,302
Don't you worry
604
00:34:13,469 --> 00:34:17,222
War, children
605
00:34:17,389 --> 00:34:21,018
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
606
00:34:21,185 --> 00:34:27,232
What I liked was that she could sing.
She was able to be Merry.
607
00:34:27,399 --> 00:34:29,359
She didn't have
to bring it down.
608
00:34:29,526 --> 00:34:32,196
He said, "You wanna do another one?"
I said, "Sure, I'll do another one."
609
00:34:32,362 --> 00:34:34,782
I mean, she just did it,
like, couple of times, you know.
610
00:34:34,948 --> 00:34:38,160
So I said to myself,
"Mm-hmm, I'm gonna do another
611
00:34:38,327 --> 00:34:40,829
and I'm gonna blow them
outta this room."
612
00:34:42,498 --> 00:34:46,919
I went in again and I did that pass
on the part that says,
613
00:34:47,086 --> 00:34:49,838
Rape, murder
Just a shot away
614
00:34:50,005 --> 00:34:52,049
Sol had to go up
another octave.
615
00:34:52,216 --> 00:34:54,176
[shouting]
616
00:34:54,343 --> 00:34:57,971
Rape, murder
617
00:34:58,138 --> 00:35:02,059
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
618
00:35:02,226 --> 00:35:05,979
Rape, murder, yeah
619
00:35:06,146 --> 00:35:10,317
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
620
00:35:10,484 --> 00:35:13,695
- Rape, murder
- [man] Whoo!
621
00:35:13,862 --> 00:35:18,075
It's just a shot away
It's a just shot away
622
00:35:18,242 --> 00:35:21,620
Yeah, yeah
623
00:35:21,787 --> 00:35:23,872
- ["Gimme Shelter"]
- [Jagger] You know, you do these things
624
00:35:24,039 --> 00:35:25,040
at sort of two in the morning,
625
00:35:25,207 --> 00:35:27,709
and then you come in the next day
and you go, "Bloody hell, that's good."
626
00:35:27,876 --> 00:35:31,797
Yeah. I don't hear
a hand clap. [laughs]
627
00:35:31,964 --> 00:35:34,925
[Jones] Everybody just tells me,
"You have to bring everything down."
628
00:35:35,092 --> 00:35:37,427
So when the rock and roll world
came and said,
629
00:35:37,594 --> 00:35:41,098
"No, we want you to sing,"
it saved us.
630
00:35:41,265 --> 00:35:44,434
It saved us.
Saved our lives.
631
00:35:45,602 --> 00:35:48,230
[rock music plays]
632
00:35:54,570 --> 00:35:59,032
Lisa, let's practice that.
Lisa, let's do that.
633
00:35:59,199 --> 00:36:01,201
Let's just...
just do the coda.
634
00:36:01,368 --> 00:36:05,914
- [humming]
- So Vinnie, from the coda.
635
00:36:06,081 --> 00:36:09,126
- Just the coda.
- [soft rock plays]
636
00:36:13,046 --> 00:36:14,798
Mercury falling
637
00:36:15,465 --> 00:36:17,593
[vocalizing]
638
00:36:17,759 --> 00:36:20,137
I rise from my bed
639
00:36:23,599 --> 00:36:25,767
Collect my thoughts together
640
00:36:29,771 --> 00:36:32,816
But have to hold my head
641
00:36:36,737 --> 00:36:41,783
- Seems that she's gone
- Gone
642
00:36:41,950 --> 00:36:45,037
Leaving me too soon
643
00:36:45,204 --> 00:36:47,748
During "The Hounds of Winter,"
I just indicated to Lisa
644
00:36:47,915 --> 00:36:50,334
that she should, you know,
vocalize and do something
645
00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,795
to evoke the spirit
of loneliness.
646
00:36:53,962 --> 00:36:56,632
[vocalizing]
647
00:36:56,798 --> 00:36:59,551
And out comes this voice,
you know, amazing,
648
00:37:00,886 --> 00:37:03,222
extraordinary, ghostly voice.
649
00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:05,807
So every time she's
performed that with me,
650
00:37:05,974 --> 00:37:08,352
I've asked her to do that.
651
00:37:10,896 --> 00:37:13,523
[Sting] Lisa, give...
you can give me more than that.
652
00:37:13,690 --> 00:37:15,359
Really? OK.
653
00:37:15,525 --> 00:37:17,527
[Sting] Give me
something to play with.
654
00:37:17,694 --> 00:37:20,489
- Let me reel you in.
- [laughs]
655
00:37:20,656 --> 00:37:24,284
- [imitates fishing reel]
- [guitar playing]
656
00:37:24,451 --> 00:37:27,329
And I'm also intensely
proud of my band.
657
00:37:27,496 --> 00:37:32,084
My greatest pleasure is to stand back
and let them do what they can do.
658
00:37:32,251 --> 00:37:34,086
[Both] And they kick into this song
called "Hounds of Winter, "
659
00:37:34,253 --> 00:37:35,754
and they go to this out vamp.
660
00:37:35,921 --> 00:37:38,632
And Sting was cool
enough to say, "All right, go.
661
00:37:38,799 --> 00:37:40,842
Put a spotlight on her
and just turn her loose."
662
00:37:41,009 --> 00:37:44,429
- [vocalizing]
- [rock music plays]
663
00:38:20,799 --> 00:38:25,345
- [crowd cheering]
- Lisa Fischer.
664
00:38:25,512 --> 00:38:29,391
[Sting] That's a powerhouse
voice, you know, and...
665
00:38:29,558 --> 00:38:32,352
...I think of her as a star.
666
00:38:32,519 --> 00:38:34,354
She's a star.
667
00:38:34,521 --> 00:38:37,566
[humming]
668
00:38:41,194 --> 00:38:44,156
She puts her whole self into it
and then
669
00:38:44,323 --> 00:38:47,617
there's just something totally
transcendent that happens.
670
00:38:47,784 --> 00:38:51,705
[vocalizing]
671
00:38:54,541 --> 00:38:58,462
[Fischer] You're a little feather,
672
00:38:58,628 --> 00:39:01,590
and somebody just said...
[blows] and you just go.
673
00:39:07,596 --> 00:39:09,973
You just go and you never fall.
674
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:12,476
You never hit your head.
You just kinda land.
675
00:39:12,642 --> 00:39:15,270
That's what it feels like to me.
676
00:39:20,984 --> 00:39:23,195
[Maxwell] The human voice is
the most pure expression
677
00:39:23,362 --> 00:39:24,529
coming from your own being.
678
00:39:24,696 --> 00:39:29,076
There's nothing between your soul
and your ability and your body and them.
679
00:39:29,242 --> 00:39:32,412
It's not being camouflaged by a trumpet
or a saxophone or guitar.
680
00:39:32,579 --> 00:39:35,582
It's pure, and that's why
they're so sensitive about it,
681
00:39:35,749 --> 00:39:37,542
because they're putting it out there.
682
00:39:42,047 --> 00:39:43,006
[vocalizing ends]
683
00:39:43,423 --> 00:39:45,342
[Fischer] Everything's a
mess.
Sorry.
684
00:39:45,509 --> 00:39:49,763
Uh... everything's a mess.
It's just a mess.
685
00:39:49,930 --> 00:39:54,518
Uh, these are old gold albums
I haven't put up yet. Um...
686
00:39:54,684 --> 00:39:58,438
That's something from Tina Turner's tour
that was a gift from her.
687
00:39:58,605 --> 00:40:02,526
This is, um, an old poster
of Luther Vandross that I love.
688
00:40:02,692 --> 00:40:04,736
I met him right after that tour.
689
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:08,240
When I auditioned for him,
I walk into the room
690
00:40:08,407 --> 00:40:10,784
and he's sitting around the
piano and there's this, um,
691
00:40:10,951 --> 00:40:13,078
container with some
fried chicken in it.
692
00:40:14,121 --> 00:40:16,206
I had to giggle.
I was just like, "Yeah!"
693
00:40:16,373 --> 00:40:18,750
- And the eagle
- And the eagle
694
00:40:18,917 --> 00:40:21,461
- And the eagle flies
- Oh...
695
00:40:21,628 --> 00:40:22,963
[Fischer] And he goes...
696
00:40:23,130 --> 00:40:26,299
And the eagle flies
697
00:40:26,466 --> 00:40:28,427
..."Sing this for me."
698
00:40:28,593 --> 00:40:30,220
And I would sing something to him.
699
00:40:30,387 --> 00:40:35,225
He's like, "OK, now can you
give that to me with more air?"
700
00:40:35,392 --> 00:40:38,311
And that was like, "More air?"
I was like, "OK."
701
00:40:38,478 --> 00:40:42,607
'Cause, you know, nobody was talking
about those subtleties, you know.
702
00:40:42,774 --> 00:40:44,943
[Lasley] A lot of his approach
was breath and air.
703
00:40:45,110 --> 00:40:48,155
Sometimes the finesse of a note,
like... No turning back
704
00:40:48,321 --> 00:40:50,991
Like, the way you got
off a note... Back
705
00:40:51,158 --> 00:40:54,703
- One, two...
- And there's a rose
706
00:40:54,870 --> 00:40:58,081
I sounded just like that yesterday
when I was understudying the note.
707
00:40:58,248 --> 00:40:59,833
- [laughing]
- [woman] He really did.
708
00:41:00,542 --> 00:41:02,377
[Vandross] You know
what I'm saying? I was up there.
709
00:41:02,544 --> 00:41:04,713
- [woman] He was up there.
- It was me and John Glenn.
710
00:41:06,089 --> 00:41:09,050
[Fischer] After we were done singing,
he says, "Well, " he says,
711
00:41:09,217 --> 00:41:11,761
"if you can dance,
you've got this gig."
712
00:41:11,928 --> 00:41:14,639
And I was like, "Yay!"
And then I was like, "Uh-oh."
713
00:41:15,932 --> 00:41:18,894
Wait a minute.
Oh, I've got two left feet.
714
00:41:19,060 --> 00:41:21,646
Lisa.
Are you ready now?
715
00:41:21,813 --> 00:41:23,648
- Hoo
- You sound nice
716
00:41:23,815 --> 00:41:25,567
- Say it twice
- Hoo, hoo
717
00:41:25,734 --> 00:41:27,986
Are you ready?
Won't you tell me, doll?
718
00:41:28,153 --> 00:41:31,281
- Yeah
- Tell me and then tell me again
719
00:41:31,448 --> 00:41:33,200
- Hoo, hoo
- Now do it...
720
00:41:33,366 --> 00:41:36,536
[Fischer] He knew how
to pull each gift together
721
00:41:36,703 --> 00:41:41,541
and make this beautiful...
piece of jewelry.
722
00:41:41,708 --> 00:41:44,294
- All the way
- All
723
00:41:44,461 --> 00:41:47,797
[Vandross] You know,
when I was a kid buying records
724
00:41:47,964 --> 00:41:50,467
by The Shirelles, by Aretha Franklin,
by Dionne Warwick,
725
00:41:50,634 --> 00:41:53,678
one of the first things
that appealed to me
726
00:41:53,845 --> 00:41:58,016
were the background vocals,
and that remained with me.
727
00:41:58,183 --> 00:42:02,229
Luther was a background singer
and a jingle singer in New York.
728
00:42:02,395 --> 00:42:04,731
Back in those days,
Luther was very heavy
729
00:42:04,898 --> 00:42:08,068
and wore three-piece suits,
sweating like a pig,
730
00:42:08,235 --> 00:42:10,403
singing like an angel.
731
00:42:10,570 --> 00:42:12,739
[Springsteen] Luther Vandross,
when I first met Luther Vandross,
732
00:42:12,906 --> 00:42:15,700
I went down to Philadelphia,
David Bowie...
733
00:42:15,867 --> 00:42:19,788
David Bowie invited me down,
1973, to hear...
734
00:42:19,955 --> 00:42:22,374
He was recording
"Young Americans."
735
00:42:22,541 --> 00:42:25,460
And I had one record out
and he cut a couple of my songs,
736
00:42:25,627 --> 00:42:28,213
and so I was
tremendously excited
737
00:42:28,380 --> 00:42:30,549
and I took the bus
to Philadelphia.
738
00:42:30,715 --> 00:42:33,635
And I went in the studio and I met David
and I met the band.
739
00:42:33,802 --> 00:42:35,929
And Luther Vandross
was one of the backup singers
740
00:42:36,096 --> 00:42:38,932
in David... David Bowie's
Young Americans band.
741
00:42:39,099 --> 00:42:41,476
My God, I can trot on that.
742
00:42:41,643 --> 00:42:44,062
Time, giving it
743
00:42:44,229 --> 00:42:46,398
- Giving it
- Keeping it back
744
00:42:46,565 --> 00:42:48,733
That's cool. That's cool.
OK, next one.
745
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:51,444
Gotta do it this way
to get it... One, two...
746
00:42:51,611 --> 00:42:53,905
[Springsteen] Well, it was... [sings]
It was just fabulous, you know.
747
00:42:54,072 --> 00:42:57,659
And it was David Bowie 's
soul record, in that sense,
748
00:42:57,826 --> 00:43:02,038
and he called on those voices that were
rooted in the church to bring that in,
749
00:43:02,205 --> 00:43:05,208
because they bring a world
with them, a world with them.
750
00:43:05,375 --> 00:43:08,545
R All night
751
00:43:08,712 --> 00:43:11,464
All night
She wants the young American
752
00:43:11,631 --> 00:43:14,217
Young American
Young American
753
00:43:14,384 --> 00:43:16,219
She wants
the young American
754
00:43:18,221 --> 00:43:21,349
I believe that, you know,
the role of the backup singer
755
00:43:21,516 --> 00:43:23,101
evolves as music evolves.
756
00:43:23,268 --> 00:43:26,479
[Austin] Music was becoming more
complicated and richer
757
00:43:26,646 --> 00:43:28,481
and more interesting
in the '70s,
758
00:43:28,648 --> 00:43:30,984
and so the backgrounds
became more sophisticated.
759
00:43:31,151 --> 00:43:35,405
It just became more than vocals.
It was the music.
760
00:43:35,572 --> 00:43:38,325
R All night
761
00:43:38,491 --> 00:43:40,910
All night
She wants a young American
762
00:43:41,077 --> 00:43:42,495
Young American
763
00:43:42,662 --> 00:43:44,122
[Lasley] And you
find yourself singing
764
00:43:44,289 --> 00:43:46,458
what the background singers sang,
765
00:43:46,625 --> 00:43:48,460
as much as what the lead singer sang.
766
00:43:48,627 --> 00:43:51,671
Mama's got cramps
and look at my hands shake
767
00:43:51,838 --> 00:43:54,466
I heard the news today
Oh, boy
768
00:43:54,633 --> 00:43:56,843
I got a suite
and you got defeat
769
00:43:57,010 --> 00:44:00,013
Ain't there a woman
I can sock on the jaw?
770
00:44:00,180 --> 00:44:02,432
Ain't there a man
who can say no more?
771
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:05,185
Ain't there a child I can
hold without judging?
772
00:44:05,352 --> 00:44:07,937
Ain't there a pen that will
write before they die?
773
00:44:08,104 --> 00:44:10,649
Ain't you proud that
you've still got faces?
774
00:44:10,815 --> 00:44:15,362
Ain't there one damn song
that can make me
775
00:44:15,528 --> 00:44:18,573
Break down and cry?
776
00:44:18,740 --> 00:44:22,994
- R All night
- r All night
777
00:44:23,161 --> 00:44:27,332
[woman] You know, when you
think about the history of pop music
778
00:44:27,499 --> 00:44:30,502
and all the memorable hooks
that people sing along with,
779
00:44:30,669 --> 00:44:33,088
they're singing with us
most of the time,
780
00:44:33,254 --> 00:44:37,133
because that's what we do on records.
We come in and sing the hooks.
781
00:44:38,176 --> 00:44:39,177
[rock music playing]
782
00:44:39,344 --> 00:44:41,346
[George Harrison: "Wah Wah"]
783
00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:58,571
Wah-wah
784
00:44:58,738 --> 00:45:01,825
You give me a wah-wah
785
00:45:02,951 --> 00:45:06,955
[Lennear] That show was
just something that was cosmic.
786
00:45:08,915 --> 00:45:11,209
If you were there to experience it,
787
00:45:11,376 --> 00:45:14,713
it will be something
you'll take to the grave.
788
00:45:14,879 --> 00:45:18,842
Wah-wah
789
00:45:25,306 --> 00:45:27,684
[Jones] Claudia Lennear
had that exposure,
790
00:45:27,851 --> 00:45:33,231
and then the next big moment came
for her with, um, The Rolling Stones.
791
00:45:33,398 --> 00:45:36,985
[Jagger] And Claudia Lennear, she was
like the really hot one of the...
792
00:45:37,152 --> 00:45:38,945
...of the lkettes, you know.
793
00:45:39,112 --> 00:45:42,615
She was a really great dancer,
very hot, beautiful girl.
794
00:45:42,782 --> 00:45:46,244
[Austin] There were a few young
ladies in the background world
795
00:45:46,411 --> 00:45:50,039
who were trying to get to the leading
men as quickly as possible.
796
00:45:52,459 --> 00:45:56,087
[Lennear] You know, Mick and I
had a very special relationship,
797
00:45:56,254 --> 00:45:58,840
and we used to have so much fun.
798
00:45:59,007 --> 00:46:02,469
We used to have so much fun,
just doing silly things,
799
00:46:02,635 --> 00:46:06,806
dressing in each other's clothes.
Just crazy, wacky stuff.
800
00:46:10,143 --> 00:46:12,312
You know, Mick has his bad boy image
801
00:46:12,479 --> 00:46:15,607
and David had his androgynous look,
802
00:46:15,774 --> 00:46:19,152
but first and foremost,
they were just all really sweet.
803
00:46:19,778 --> 00:46:21,780
Well, anyway, she must have
enjoyed those times,
804
00:46:21,946 --> 00:46:23,823
because she looked like she was.
805
00:46:26,993 --> 00:46:30,872
I don't need no wah-wah
806
00:46:33,625 --> 00:46:37,462
- Wah-wah
- And I know how sweet life can be
807
00:46:37,629 --> 00:46:40,632
[Clayton] At that particular time,
there was so much going on in the world,
808
00:46:40,799 --> 00:46:43,426
with the Civil Rights Movement
and the war.
809
00:46:43,593 --> 00:46:46,638
[Greene] Though there was
so much politically going on,
810
00:46:46,805 --> 00:46:49,349
you know, you're pretty
insulated from it a lot of times
811
00:46:49,516 --> 00:46:52,519
and you only really find it out
812
00:46:52,685 --> 00:46:54,437
when you get out there
on the road,
813
00:46:54,604 --> 00:46:56,815
the places that you stay,
the people that you talk to.
814
00:46:56,981 --> 00:47:00,026
You're able to see the actual
politics and the culture,
815
00:47:00,193 --> 00:47:01,611
you know, what's going on
in the culture.
816
00:47:05,490 --> 00:47:10,453
It was weird. It was happy, musically,
but it was a sad time.
817
00:47:10,620 --> 00:47:13,331
[man] One, two, three.
818
00:47:13,498 --> 00:47:16,626
[Lynyrd Skynyrd:
"Sweet Home Alabama"]
819
00:47:16,793 --> 00:47:18,127
[man] Turn it up.
820
00:47:20,964 --> 00:47:22,799
[Clayton] I think Clydie King
called me for that session.
821
00:47:22,966 --> 00:47:25,718
She said, "There's this guy.
His name is Lynyrd Skynyrd. "
822
00:47:25,885 --> 00:47:30,056
I said, "Really?" She said,
"Yes, and he wants to do this song
823
00:47:30,223 --> 00:47:32,517
called 'Sweet Home
I said, "Alabama?
824
00:47:32,684 --> 00:47:35,019
Honey, nobody wants to sing
anything about Alabama."
825
00:47:35,186 --> 00:47:37,564
I certainly didn't wanna sing
anything about Alabama.
826
00:47:37,730 --> 00:47:41,067
Well, I heard Mr. Young
sing about her
827
00:47:42,902 --> 00:47:45,905
Well, I heard
ole Neil put her down
828
00:47:48,074 --> 00:47:50,869
Well, I hope Neil Young
will remember
829
00:47:53,121 --> 00:47:55,498
A southern man
don't need him around
830
00:47:55,665 --> 00:47:58,334
[Boyd] It was a moment
when this idea of black power
831
00:47:58,501 --> 00:48:01,337
had a lot to do with people
defining themselves
832
00:48:01,504 --> 00:48:05,383
based on their own ideas,
as opposed to white overseer's view
833
00:48:05,550 --> 00:48:07,385
of how one should behave.
834
00:48:07,552 --> 00:48:09,470
We don't give a fuck
about whether or not
835
00:48:09,637 --> 00:48:11,598
white people are offended.
We're gonna do our thing.
836
00:48:11,764 --> 00:48:14,851
Sweet home Alabama
837
00:48:18,271 --> 00:48:21,024
[Clayton] My husband
was 19 years older than I was.
838
00:48:21,190 --> 00:48:24,861
He said, "Oh, you need to sing
'Sweet Home Alabama."'
839
00:48:25,028 --> 00:48:29,198
I said, "Well, why?" He says,
"You'll understand later in life."
840
00:48:29,365 --> 00:48:32,285
He said, "Right now, you don't
understand, Merry. You're young.
841
00:48:32,452 --> 00:48:35,246
You don't...
you don't really understand."
842
00:48:35,413 --> 00:48:41,044
In Birmingham they love
the governor, boo-hoo-hoo
843
00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:43,379
Now we all did what could do
844
00:48:44,839 --> 00:48:46,758
That's what we were doing,
we were living.
845
00:48:46,925 --> 00:48:50,511
We were living the moment,
living that emotion, creating.
846
00:48:50,678 --> 00:48:54,515
It was basically like a slap
in the face. A-ha, sweet home Alabama.
847
00:48:54,682 --> 00:48:56,184
We got your sweet home Alabama.
848
00:48:56,351 --> 00:48:59,187
[song continues]
849
00:48:59,354 --> 00:49:04,025
But we gonna sing you anyway, and
we're gonna sing the crap out of you.
850
00:49:04,192 --> 00:49:06,402
[song continues]
851
00:49:13,785 --> 00:49:15,954
[Boyd] If given the opportunity,
852
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,333
we will demonstrate our value
beyond any reasonable doubt,
853
00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:24,128
so much so that going forward,
when you start to define singing,
854
00:49:24,295 --> 00:49:27,465
it's going to be based
on this transformative sound
855
00:49:27,632 --> 00:49:29,842
coming out of these
backup singers' mouths.
856
00:49:30,802 --> 00:49:33,846
[song continues]
857
00:49:37,350 --> 00:49:41,980
My way of being an activist
in our struggle
858
00:49:42,146 --> 00:49:46,943
as a black people
was to do the music.
859
00:49:47,110 --> 00:49:51,072
Lord, Lord, Lord, Lord
It's the last line.
860
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:53,491
Lord lift us up
861
00:49:53,658 --> 00:49:57,704
Lord lift us up
862
00:50:01,666 --> 00:50:04,836
Where we belong
863
00:50:05,003 --> 00:50:10,133
Where the eagles cry
864
00:50:10,299 --> 00:50:14,679
On a mountain high
865
00:50:16,222 --> 00:50:18,599
Lord lift us up
866
00:50:18,766 --> 00:50:22,770
Where we belong
867
00:50:24,522 --> 00:50:28,860
Up where the thrill below
868
00:50:29,027 --> 00:50:34,824
Up where the
free winds blow
869
00:50:39,746 --> 00:50:41,914
Any song that you can name
with background on it,
870
00:50:42,081 --> 00:50:44,125
either I was doing it
with a bunch of girls,
871
00:50:44,292 --> 00:50:45,960
or either the Waters
were doing it.
872
00:50:46,127 --> 00:50:47,795
[Waters] We always went
in the studio with,
873
00:50:47,962 --> 00:50:50,214
"God, we're on this song."
874
00:50:50,381 --> 00:50:54,552
And we would always do our very
best, like it was ours.
875
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,138
- Patti LaBelle.
- Patti LaBelle.
876
00:50:57,305 --> 00:50:58,931
- "You Are My Friend."
- "You Are My Friend."
877
00:50:59,098 --> 00:51:03,269
- The Bad Girls album.
- ["Bad Girls"]
878
00:51:05,021 --> 00:51:09,358
Toot-toot, ahh, beep-beep
879
00:51:09,525 --> 00:51:12,111
That's when we really cleaned up.
880
00:51:12,278 --> 00:51:14,530
- [man] Whitney Houston.
- Whitney Houston,
881
00:51:14,697 --> 00:51:15,782
"The Greatest Love of All."
882
00:51:15,948 --> 00:51:18,326
- All those LPs.
- The Disney characters.
883
00:51:18,493 --> 00:51:20,328
- Yes.
- That's us on there,
884
00:51:20,495 --> 00:51:21,829
the "Small World," you know.
885
00:51:21,996 --> 00:51:23,956
- You hear all that singing.
- Lion King.
886
00:51:24,123 --> 00:51:27,752
[singing in foreign language]
887
00:51:27,919 --> 00:51:29,670
[singing in foreign language]
888
00:51:29,837 --> 00:51:32,215
- Uh-huh.
- Growing Pains.
889
00:51:32,381 --> 00:51:35,384
As long as we got
each other...
890
00:51:35,802 --> 00:51:36,928
The biggest selling record
891
00:51:37,095 --> 00:51:39,722
in the history of records,
Michael Jackson's Thriller.
892
00:51:39,889 --> 00:51:42,683
[Michael Jackson: "Thriller"]
893
00:51:42,850 --> 00:51:44,560
'Cause this is Thriller
894
00:51:44,727 --> 00:51:47,396
[male Waters] And the biggest
selling movie, Avatar.
895
00:51:47,563 --> 00:51:50,274
It's some bird sounds
and things like that.
896
00:51:50,441 --> 00:51:53,361
[screeches] Stuff like that,
897
00:51:53,528 --> 00:51:56,864
you know, different things... But doing
this kinda just took us away
898
00:51:57,031 --> 00:51:59,158
from doing our own records, you know,
899
00:51:59,325 --> 00:52:00,743
and stuff like that,
which we used to do.
900
00:52:02,578 --> 00:52:05,373
Singing, you know,
oohs and aahs and...
901
00:52:05,540 --> 00:52:08,042
It's kinda fun for a minute.
Uh...
902
00:52:08,209 --> 00:52:09,877
I'm not sure if I'd like
to do it for a living.
903
00:52:10,044 --> 00:52:13,631
[Tom Jones:
"River Deep, Mountain High"]
904
00:52:13,798 --> 00:52:19,178
I love you baby like
a flower loves the spring
905
00:52:19,345 --> 00:52:24,809
And I love you baby
like a robin loves to sing
906
00:52:24,976 --> 00:52:29,981
And I love you baby, like
the schoolboy loves to play
907
00:52:30,148 --> 00:52:32,900
Oh, and I love you baby
908
00:52:33,067 --> 00:52:36,237
River deep and mountain high
909
00:52:36,404 --> 00:52:38,197
[Love] Phil Spector's name
started getting big,
910
00:52:38,364 --> 00:52:39,574
my name started getting big,
911
00:52:39,740 --> 00:52:43,286
because the rock and roll people
like Bruce and Elton John
912
00:52:43,452 --> 00:52:46,372
and Stevie wanted to know
who that girl singer was.
913
00:52:46,539 --> 00:52:48,124
I want you baby
914
00:52:50,001 --> 00:52:53,963
I mean, she without question,
is a lead singer.
915
00:52:54,130 --> 00:52:55,631
You started to pick up that voice
916
00:52:55,798 --> 00:52:59,427
and you began
to have an allegiance to that voice.
917
00:52:59,594 --> 00:53:04,432
River deep, mountain high
918
00:53:05,850 --> 00:53:09,061
If I lost you, would I cry?
919
00:53:09,228 --> 00:53:13,983
[Love] That made me wanna be out there
by myself even more as a solo artist.
920
00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:17,987
Baby, baby
921
00:53:18,154 --> 00:53:22,116
I saw then I'd have to leave that group
to become a solo singer.
922
00:53:22,283 --> 00:53:23,701
[Clayton] Singing background, to me,
923
00:53:23,868 --> 00:53:27,079
it was like a rehearsal for what I was
gonna do for my project.
924
00:53:28,372 --> 00:53:32,293
I wanted to sing as Merry Clayton,
925
00:53:32,460 --> 00:53:37,506
to the masses. I wanted to get
my stuff out to the masses,
926
00:53:37,673 --> 00:53:39,884
and God sent me Lou Adler.
927
00:53:40,051 --> 00:53:43,304
[soul music plays]
928
00:53:46,349 --> 00:53:51,062
Merry consciously wanted to be
a solo artist and a star.
929
00:53:52,438 --> 00:53:55,733
Whenever Merry appeared,
standing ovations.
930
00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:59,946
I mean, it's as if they never had seen
or heard someone like that.
931
00:54:00,112 --> 00:54:05,159
Southern man
You'd better keep your head
932
00:54:05,326 --> 00:54:10,623
Don't forget
what your good book said
933
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:14,835
When it came to my project, I was
gonna kick ass and take names.
934
00:54:15,002 --> 00:54:19,507
Southern man
When will you pay them back?
935
00:54:19,674 --> 00:54:22,635
I heard screaming
936
00:54:22,802 --> 00:54:25,721
Bullwhip cracking
937
00:54:25,888 --> 00:54:28,474
How long? How long?
938
00:54:28,641 --> 00:54:32,645
How long?
Baby, how long?
939
00:54:32,812 --> 00:54:35,273
[Adler] She made three
really good albums.
940
00:54:35,439 --> 00:54:38,734
They all sound like somebody
that's as big as Aretha Franklin.
941
00:54:38,901 --> 00:54:42,029
Why don't you get
yourself together?
942
00:54:42,196 --> 00:54:44,740
Get your heart, your mind
943
00:54:44,907 --> 00:54:48,828
And your soul together, oh
944
00:54:48,995 --> 00:54:50,538
[Clayton] I think Lou did a great job
945
00:54:50,705 --> 00:54:53,541
and A&M did a great job
promoting my records here.
946
00:54:53,708 --> 00:54:56,877
[Love] I think you do, number one,
have to have that kill spirit,
947
00:54:57,044 --> 00:54:58,212
to really want it.
948
00:54:58,379 --> 00:55:00,673
Now, Merry Clayton got the kill spirit.
949
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:02,508
I don't know why
she wasn't a superstar.
950
00:55:02,675 --> 00:55:05,469
One day I'm gonna
cut him down
951
00:55:05,636 --> 00:55:08,347
You see I heard screaming
952
00:55:09,473 --> 00:55:12,059
Bullwhips they were cracking
953
00:55:12,226 --> 00:55:16,647
How long? Oh, how long?
954
00:55:16,814 --> 00:55:18,441
Can you tell me?
955
00:55:18,607 --> 00:55:22,862
Oh, southern man keep your head
956
00:55:23,029 --> 00:55:28,534
We did everything possible,
and it just didn't take.
957
00:55:30,411 --> 00:55:32,204
[Jones] The industry,
it was controlled.
958
00:55:32,371 --> 00:55:35,041
There were rules.
She was a gospel singer.
959
00:55:35,207 --> 00:55:37,001
There's only one Aretha.
960
00:55:37,168 --> 00:55:39,462
You know, and that's the way
they felt in those days.
961
00:55:39,628 --> 00:55:42,131
It could only be Aretha.
Only could be Diana Ross.
962
00:55:42,298 --> 00:55:43,966
Good book said
963
00:55:44,133 --> 00:55:48,054
Well, you can't
forget what your
964
00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:50,473
- Good book said
- Oh
965
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,767
Yes, I became frustrated at one time,
966
00:55:52,933 --> 00:55:55,936
said, "Damn, the record didn't
go any further than this?
967
00:55:56,103 --> 00:55:57,229
What're we doing wrong?"
968
00:55:59,982 --> 00:56:06,405
I felt like if I just gave
my heart to what I was doing,
969
00:56:06,572 --> 00:56:09,492
I would automatically be a star.
970
00:56:09,658 --> 00:56:13,079
Southern man
971
00:56:20,503 --> 00:56:24,340
I think what happens with
the whole issue of background
972
00:56:24,507 --> 00:56:27,927
versus lead singing is,
you know,
973
00:56:28,094 --> 00:56:29,887
the material that you're given
974
00:56:30,054 --> 00:56:33,641
and how you work with producers.
975
00:56:33,808 --> 00:56:36,602
[vocalizing]
976
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:46,987
In the mid '70s,
Darlene Love is finally freed
977
00:56:47,154 --> 00:56:48,989
from her contract
with Phil Spector.
978
00:56:49,156 --> 00:56:50,866
I had signed
with Gamble and Huff.
979
00:56:51,033 --> 00:56:53,536
Who were, at that time,
the hottest thing out there.
980
00:56:53,702 --> 00:56:56,872
And I say, "OK, here's my career.
It's gonna really go now."
981
00:56:57,039 --> 00:56:59,875
And, uh, there was
another door I ran into.
982
00:57:02,878 --> 00:57:07,675
[Zanes] Within weeks, they sell her
contract back to Phil Spector
983
00:57:07,842 --> 00:57:09,802
and the nightmare continues.
984
00:57:12,221 --> 00:57:13,639
[Love] This was the new Phil Spector.
985
00:57:13,806 --> 00:57:17,059
He did the Beatles thing and,
you know, he was a big star,
986
00:57:17,226 --> 00:57:20,020
so now he's gonna act like a big star
in front of this little star,
987
00:57:20,187 --> 00:57:22,481
Darlene Love,
and I wasn't having it.
988
00:57:23,732 --> 00:57:26,527
It got to be so bad,
I just said, "You know what?
989
00:57:26,694 --> 00:57:28,529
I've had it."
That's what I said to myself.
990
00:57:28,696 --> 00:57:31,365
Took the earphones off my ears,
put 'em in the chair,
991
00:57:31,532 --> 00:57:35,453
picked up my coat, put it on
and walked out the studio.
992
00:57:35,619 --> 00:57:38,497
I didn't see Phil Spector
no more for over 20 years.
993
00:57:40,708 --> 00:57:43,794
[Springsteen] Many of these singers
came outta the music business at a time
994
00:57:43,961 --> 00:57:48,174
when the singer
depended on a songwriter,
995
00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:50,885
somebody who knew
how to feature their voice,
996
00:57:51,051 --> 00:57:53,804
somebody who knew how
to create a hit arrangement.
997
00:57:53,971 --> 00:57:56,515
Those are a lot of things
to be dependent upon, you know.
998
00:57:56,682 --> 00:57:59,768
And I know so many people
with incredible voices,
999
00:57:59,935 --> 00:58:04,315
but if you don't find someone
who understands who you are,
1000
00:58:04,482 --> 00:58:07,776
you can be a great singer
and just not... and that...
1001
00:58:07,943 --> 00:58:09,987
...just not make that next step,
you know. There's...
1002
00:58:10,613 --> 00:58:12,656
I mean, the country's filled
with them, you know.
1003
00:58:12,823 --> 00:58:15,326
[Otis Redding:
"I've Got Dreams To Remember"]
1004
00:58:21,123 --> 00:58:24,126
There's no guarantees
in entertainment.
1005
00:58:24,293 --> 00:58:26,086
There's no... no guarantees.
1006
00:58:30,925 --> 00:58:34,220
[Lennear] I had been offered the chance
to go solo several times,
1007
00:58:34,386 --> 00:58:37,473
and then ultimately, I ended up
with Warner Brothers.
1008
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,100
The studio was smoking.
1009
00:58:40,267 --> 00:58:44,230
It was just...
and it was just amazing.
1010
00:58:44,396 --> 00:58:47,650
It was just amazing and...
1011
00:58:47,816 --> 00:58:49,485
[man] And how was
the record received?
1012
00:58:50,903 --> 00:58:53,030
Mm... not that well.
1013
00:58:59,828 --> 00:59:03,207
[male Waters] If you are out there and
your name is on that doggone marquee,
1014
00:59:03,374 --> 00:59:07,419
the pressure is on 'em, and sometimes
that can... that can cause, uh,
1015
00:59:07,586 --> 00:59:09,380
problems in a person's life.
1016
00:59:19,473 --> 00:59:25,396
I had a contract as a solo artist
and then I was kept on, but shelved.
1017
00:59:26,188 --> 00:59:30,776
So I was on Motown, but not.
And it hasn't been easy.
1018
00:59:30,943 --> 00:59:33,821
You know, there's stuff
that goes on with people.
1019
00:59:36,991 --> 00:59:41,996
[Lennear] I had a daughter to raise.
I had a band to support.
1020
00:59:42,162 --> 00:59:44,206
I mean, it just got crazy.
1021
00:59:55,884 --> 00:59:57,595
[Mizelle] The kind of feeling
that you get
1022
00:59:57,761 --> 01:00:00,180
from people
screaming in the audience,
1023
01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:05,477
if you're always looking for that
in life, you're gonna crash.
1024
01:00:09,106 --> 01:00:11,859
[Lennear] The focus
wasn't on music anymore.
1025
01:00:13,902 --> 01:00:16,989
I had to send my daughter to live
with my brother and his kids,
1026
01:00:17,156 --> 01:00:20,659
while I was trying to scrape
things together to pay the gas bill.
1027
01:00:26,874 --> 01:00:29,376
I remember her putting out a record,
but then I looked up and then...
1028
01:00:29,543 --> 01:00:31,128
I didn't see Claudia anymore.
1029
01:00:32,421 --> 01:00:35,341
She said thank you and goodnight,
that's what she said.
1030
01:00:38,844 --> 01:00:41,639
[Vega] I thought people
would be banging down my door for deals,
1031
01:00:41,805 --> 01:00:43,807
and it didn't happen like that.
1032
01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:46,393
"You're too fat.
You're too old.
1033
01:00:48,145 --> 01:00:50,522
You know, you should seriously
think about another career."
1034
01:00:55,444 --> 01:00:59,031
[Vega] And after that, it's hell.
1035
01:01:02,951 --> 01:01:05,329
I think if I had "made" it,
1036
01:01:05,496 --> 01:01:08,207
like what the world...
millions of dollars, all that,
1037
01:01:08,374 --> 01:01:12,044
I probably wouldn't be sitting in this
chair talking to you right know,
1038
01:01:12,211 --> 01:01:14,213
'cause I would
have OD'd somewhere.
1039
01:01:29,144 --> 01:01:32,356
[Sting] It's not a level playing field.
It never is a level playing field,
1040
01:01:32,523 --> 01:01:35,484
and you come into life understanding
that. It's not about fairness.
1041
01:01:35,651 --> 01:01:37,861
It's not really about talent,
you know.
1042
01:01:38,028 --> 01:01:42,282
It's... circumstance,
it's luck. It's destiny.
1043
01:01:42,449 --> 01:01:47,830
I don't know what it is, but
the best people deal with that.
1044
01:01:58,298 --> 01:02:01,677
[Hill] Working with Michael
really did inspire me,
1045
01:02:01,844 --> 01:02:04,596
and saying like, "Wow,
it's OK to dream this big.
1046
01:02:04,763 --> 01:02:06,765
It's OK to realize your dreams."
1047
01:02:06,932 --> 01:02:08,809
[Judith Hill: "Desperation]
1048
01:02:08,976 --> 01:02:13,021
I still believe
1049
01:02:14,815 --> 01:02:18,694
Someday
1050
01:02:18,861 --> 01:02:21,029
You'll come around
1051
01:02:21,196 --> 01:02:24,199
[Austin] She's representational of
what's happening with background singers
1052
01:02:24,366 --> 01:02:27,327
at this point. I know she aspires
to be a solo artist, though.
1053
01:02:27,494 --> 01:02:30,831
Y I pray
1054
01:02:30,998 --> 01:02:33,709
[man] This last tour, I heard from other
friends that were with Michael
1055
01:02:33,876 --> 01:02:37,629
that he just loved her and,
of course, she got the job.
1056
01:02:37,796 --> 01:02:41,258
You know, we were so excited
for him and for us to be
1057
01:02:41,425 --> 01:02:43,469
able to do this show,
and it was coming together.
1058
01:02:43,635 --> 01:02:46,930
I can't do that.
But you're fine to do it.
1059
01:02:47,097 --> 01:02:48,599
I gotta save my voice.
1060
01:02:48,766 --> 01:02:50,809
I ain't going nowhere
1061
01:02:50,976 --> 01:02:52,352
'Cause I...
1062
01:02:52,519 --> 01:02:54,897
[Hill] And then all of a sudden,
we're on our way to rehearsal
1063
01:02:55,063 --> 01:02:56,648
and we get
the news and it's like,
1064
01:02:56,815 --> 01:02:59,651
"You gotta be kidding me.
Like, how's that even possible?"
1065
01:02:59,818 --> 01:03:01,779
We'll always be waiting
1066
01:03:01,945 --> 01:03:04,198
So somewhere in me
1067
01:03:04,364 --> 01:03:06,825
[Hill] It's such an overwhelming
shock just to go from
1068
01:03:06,992 --> 01:03:09,161
almost on our way
to this huge show,
1069
01:03:09,328 --> 01:03:10,996
to all of a sudden, he's gone.
1070
01:03:11,163 --> 01:03:14,750
You
1071
01:03:16,293 --> 01:03:18,545
I was crying throughout the service
1072
01:03:18,712 --> 01:03:22,174
and I wasn't really emotionally
in a place to sing,
1073
01:03:22,341 --> 01:03:24,551
but, actually, it
wasn't too unfamiliar to me,
1074
01:03:24,718 --> 01:03:27,346
because that kind of feeling
and that reverence
1075
01:03:27,513 --> 01:03:29,807
reminded me a lot
of church service,
1076
01:03:29,973 --> 01:03:31,850
so that's how I felt
when I was there.
1077
01:03:32,017 --> 01:03:35,604
But, you know, I didn't
really realize at the time
1078
01:03:35,771 --> 01:03:37,564
billions of people
were watching it.
1079
01:03:37,731 --> 01:03:39,691
[announcer] And a star is born.
1080
01:03:39,858 --> 01:03:41,276
We are the world
1081
01:03:41,443 --> 01:03:44,905
[woman] Judith, thank you so much for
joining us. Just 24 hours ago,
1082
01:03:45,072 --> 01:03:47,491
I think you were brought
to the world's attention
1083
01:03:47,658 --> 01:03:49,993
by doing one of Michael's
most famous songs ever.
1084
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:51,662
Well, what you saw...
1085
01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:54,998
[Hill] When you're a background singer,
it is a springboard in the beginning,
1086
01:03:55,165 --> 01:03:59,211
but it can easily become quicksand
if that's not what you wanna do.
1087
01:03:59,378 --> 01:04:01,463
Ever since the Michael Jackson
experience,
1088
01:04:01,630 --> 01:04:04,424
I've turned down almost
every background singing gig,
1089
01:04:04,591 --> 01:04:07,678
because I knew that
if I kept doing it,
1090
01:04:07,845 --> 01:04:11,723
then becoming an artist
would become more difficult.
1091
01:04:11,890 --> 01:04:13,600
[Maxwell] I think the world
needs to hear her
1092
01:04:13,767 --> 01:04:17,062
and I didn't want her to go
the way of background singing.
1093
01:04:17,229 --> 01:04:21,483
I put together the girls for Elton
to go on tour and they wanted Judith.
1094
01:04:21,650 --> 01:04:25,070
Elton loves Judith, but I think
she had to make a decision,
1095
01:04:25,237 --> 01:04:26,905
"Do I really wanna be a solo artist?"
1096
01:04:27,072 --> 01:04:29,533
And she's trying to do it,
because she writes songs.
1097
01:04:31,076 --> 01:04:34,162
[John] We in the music industry,
especially African American people,
1098
01:04:34,329 --> 01:04:37,040
need to know our worth.
1099
01:04:37,958 --> 01:04:41,753
We need to know,
as women, we're important.
1100
01:04:43,171 --> 01:04:46,758
And I think the breakdown is
1101
01:04:46,925 --> 01:04:52,764
when a woman doesn't know who
she is and she settle for less.
1102
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,685
Check out your worth,
1103
01:04:56,852 --> 01:04:59,479
because you're worth
more than that.
1104
01:05:02,774 --> 01:05:04,276
[Love] I couldn't sleep.
1105
01:05:04,443 --> 01:05:06,111
I was getting in such
a depressed state,
1106
01:05:06,278 --> 01:05:07,738
I called my mother and father,
asked them
1107
01:05:07,905 --> 01:05:10,282
if they would take care of my kids.
1108
01:05:10,449 --> 01:05:13,869
And the most enjoyment I got back
in those days was singing in church.
1109
01:05:14,036 --> 01:05:18,040
That's the only place that I was
actually singing during those times.
1110
01:05:18,206 --> 01:05:21,585
Only thing I thought I could do and make
a little money to survive,
1111
01:05:21,752 --> 01:05:24,254
you know, I started cleaning houses.
1112
01:05:24,421 --> 01:05:27,215
[woman vocalizing]
1113
01:05:27,382 --> 01:05:29,885
[Love] Not the great Darlene Love.
She's not doing... cleaning houses.
1114
01:05:30,052 --> 01:05:33,347
I said, "Yes, the great Darlene Love is.
She is cleaning houses."
1115
01:05:35,682 --> 01:05:40,187
One particular Christmas,
I was cleaning this lady's bathroom.
1116
01:05:40,354 --> 01:05:45,484
["Christmas (Baby Please Come Home)"]
1117
01:05:45,651 --> 01:05:48,820
[Love] And "Christmas
(Baby Please Come Home)
1118
01:05:48,987 --> 01:05:51,114
my Christmas record,
1119
01:05:51,281 --> 01:05:54,534
came on the radio while
I was cleaning this bathroom.
1120
01:05:59,539 --> 01:06:02,584
And I just looked up and just said,
"OK, all right, Darlene,
1121
01:06:02,751 --> 01:06:06,421
this is not where you're supposed to be.
You're supposed to be singing.
1122
01:06:06,588 --> 01:06:10,759
There's a whole world out there
who wants to hear you sing."
1123
01:06:15,347 --> 01:06:20,143
[Love] And then the move from California
to New York, my career just took off.
1124
01:06:25,941 --> 01:06:27,693
Nice to have you here.
Everything OK with you?
1125
01:06:27,859 --> 01:06:29,444
- Wonderful.
- Thanks for being here.
1126
01:06:29,611 --> 01:06:30,904
- Come and sing it next year.
- Of course.
1127
01:06:31,071 --> 01:06:32,572
[Letterman]
I hope you have a good holiday.
1128
01:06:32,739 --> 01:06:35,409
[Love] I have to plan what I'm going to
do. I have to take a little job.
1129
01:06:35,575 --> 01:06:36,994
The bastard's got my daughter.
1130
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:39,913
Just so you can keep
your name out there.
1131
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,708
But if I didn't do those jobs,
then nobody would really know
1132
01:06:42,874 --> 01:06:44,960
who Darlene Love was.
1133
01:06:46,336 --> 01:06:49,423
[Jones] As a young person,
I thought everybody could sing.
1134
01:06:49,589 --> 01:06:51,883
When you start getting older,
then you realize,
1135
01:06:52,050 --> 01:06:55,220
everyone is not the same,
that these are gifts,
1136
01:06:55,387 --> 01:06:59,474
and you have to share
and go out into the world.
1137
01:07:10,736 --> 01:07:12,446
[Fischer] Whoo!
1138
01:07:12,612 --> 01:07:16,074
Oh, my girlfriend and I took these.
1139
01:07:16,241 --> 01:07:19,327
It was supposed to be closed.
You see the zipper is broken.
1140
01:07:19,494 --> 01:07:24,875
[laughs] I swear it was closed.
It started out closed.
1141
01:07:25,042 --> 01:07:30,088
Here, yes. It's my Grammy.
1142
01:07:30,255 --> 01:07:33,341
I just kinda keep 'em here.
I don't know what to do with it.
1143
01:07:33,508 --> 01:07:35,927
[laughs] I don't know
what to do with it.
1144
01:07:36,094 --> 01:07:37,679
- You're looking fantastic.
- Thank you.
1145
01:07:37,846 --> 01:07:38,972
- I've gotta tell this story.
- OK.
1146
01:07:39,139 --> 01:07:41,808
The first time
I met you, I met Lisa,
1147
01:07:41,975 --> 01:07:43,727
was you were singing
background on my record.
1148
01:07:43,894 --> 01:07:45,854
- Yes...
- "I Know How To Make You," right.
1149
01:07:46,021 --> 01:07:49,191
I know how to make you
love me, baby
1150
01:07:49,357 --> 01:07:51,610
That's right, that's right.
And I have to tell you,
1151
01:07:51,777 --> 01:07:55,739
I mean, everyone in the
industry knows Lisa Fischer.
1152
01:07:55,906 --> 01:07:59,117
[Fischer] I wasn't deep
in search of a record deal.
1153
01:07:59,284 --> 01:08:03,246
It was just one of those things
that just blossomed,
1154
01:08:03,413 --> 01:08:05,874
you know,
and I was really fortunate.
1155
01:08:06,041 --> 01:08:09,795
How can I
1156
01:08:09,961 --> 01:08:12,714
Ooh
1157
01:08:21,264 --> 01:08:25,143
I just... I think she
is a freak of nature
1158
01:08:25,310 --> 01:08:28,313
that I've never seen before.
1159
01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:31,358
[vocalizing]
1160
01:08:31,525 --> 01:08:36,071
- How can I ease
- [vocalizing]
1161
01:08:36,238 --> 01:08:40,867
And the Grammy goes to... Lisa Fischer,
"How Can I Ease the Pain?"
1162
01:08:41,034 --> 01:08:46,039
- How can I ease
- How can I ease the
1163
01:08:46,206 --> 01:08:49,543
Oh, pain, baby
1164
01:08:49,709 --> 01:08:52,462
I have to thank Luther Vandross.
That's the first thing I have to do.
1165
01:08:52,629 --> 01:08:55,048
Without him, none of this would
have been possible for me.
1166
01:08:55,215 --> 01:09:00,137
She has her own Grammy. She has her own
recording contract with Elektra Records.
1167
01:09:00,303 --> 01:09:02,514
[vocalizing]
1168
01:09:02,681 --> 01:09:04,641
It's different when you're
singing background for someone,
1169
01:09:04,808 --> 01:09:06,935
you know, because you're so
into making them happy,
1170
01:09:07,102 --> 01:09:08,854
making sure that they
have what they need.
1171
01:09:09,020 --> 01:09:11,148
But then, once you're
doing your own thing,
1172
01:09:11,314 --> 01:09:13,525
it's like you have to try to
understand what it is you need
1173
01:09:13,692 --> 01:09:15,902
and what's gonna
make you happy.
1174
01:09:22,617 --> 01:09:25,704
[applause]
1175
01:09:25,871 --> 01:09:29,249
[man] Give it up. Lisa Fischer.
1176
01:09:41,803 --> 01:09:44,472
[Fischer] I was working
on a second record and...
1177
01:09:45,765 --> 01:09:47,434
...I don't know,
it just took too long.
1178
01:09:47,601 --> 01:09:49,853
It took too long, and
there was this window,
1179
01:09:50,020 --> 01:09:51,354
and it just took too long.
1180
01:09:52,856 --> 01:09:57,569
I just don't think anyone
knew what to do with me.
1181
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,530
[don't think
I knew what to do with me.
1182
01:10:00,697 --> 01:10:03,575
That's something
I never really understood,
1183
01:10:03,742 --> 01:10:06,745
just the business part of it.
1184
01:10:08,538 --> 01:10:10,832
[Austin] It takes a tremendous
amount of energy
1185
01:10:10,999 --> 01:10:14,669
to be a solo artist and a tremendous
amount of ego to want to do that.
1186
01:10:16,504 --> 01:10:19,299
And she's never had that kind of ego.
1187
01:10:21,343 --> 01:10:23,053
[Alexander] I think there
is a psychology behind it.
1188
01:10:23,220 --> 01:10:25,513
I think most background singers
will agree
1189
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,225
that we're not really
good self-promoters.
1190
01:10:28,391 --> 01:10:30,143
You know, the industry
is for those who put themselves
1191
01:10:30,310 --> 01:10:32,270
on display and are willing
to play the game,
1192
01:10:32,437 --> 01:10:34,439
and some people aren't.
1193
01:10:36,399 --> 01:10:40,153
[Zanes] In a strange way,
the gulf between the lead singer
1194
01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:43,949
and that group of backup
singers couldn't be wider.
1195
01:10:44,115 --> 01:10:46,743
You're going into a group format
1196
01:10:46,910 --> 01:10:50,038
where you sacrifice individuality
1197
01:10:50,205 --> 01:10:52,999
in order to arrive at that blend.
1198
01:10:53,166 --> 01:10:58,046
And the blend is something that's
not just infectious for the listener.
1199
01:10:58,213 --> 01:11:02,926
It's... it's the transformative
experience for the singer.
1200
01:11:03,093 --> 01:11:07,347
And some people
just wanna stay there.
1201
01:11:08,932 --> 01:11:10,517
[Sting] Real musicians,
1202
01:11:10,684 --> 01:11:12,769
there's a spiritual component
to what they do.
1203
01:11:12,936 --> 01:11:15,855
It's got nothing to do
with worldly success.
1204
01:11:16,022 --> 01:11:20,360
Their music is much
more of an inner journey.
1205
01:11:20,527 --> 01:11:24,155
Any other success
is just cream on the cake.
1206
01:11:24,322 --> 01:11:26,199
[vocalizing]
1207
01:11:26,366 --> 01:11:28,994
There's this idea that you can
go on American Idol
1208
01:11:29,160 --> 01:11:31,121
and suddenly become a star,
1209
01:11:31,288 --> 01:11:34,207
but you may bypass
the spiritual work
1210
01:11:34,374 --> 01:11:36,376
that you have
to do to get there,
1211
01:11:36,543 --> 01:11:40,964
and if you bypass that, then
your success will be wafer thin.
1212
01:11:41,131 --> 01:11:44,551
[harmonizing vocals]
1213
01:11:49,431 --> 01:11:53,059
[Julia Waters] People lose
the heart of a lot of it
1214
01:11:53,226 --> 01:11:55,687
because they haven't
grown up with, you know,
1215
01:11:55,854 --> 01:11:58,606
having to go through that,
what I call wood shedding,
1216
01:11:58,773 --> 01:12:01,860
having to really say,
"OK, let me focus in on...
1217
01:12:02,027 --> 01:12:04,863
...this is what we need to do."
1218
01:12:13,163 --> 01:12:14,622
[harmonizing ends]
1219
01:12:14,789 --> 01:12:16,791
There's a budget right now,
in every...
1220
01:12:16,958 --> 01:12:19,377
...every recording budget
that says "for tuning."
1221
01:12:19,544 --> 01:12:22,714
And that's, you know, how many hours
are allowed for tuning.
1222
01:12:22,881 --> 01:12:26,092
And I said, "What's that?"
"Oh, we have to tune all the vocals."
1223
01:12:26,259 --> 01:12:28,094
"Well, why don't
they sing in tune?"
1224
01:12:28,261 --> 01:12:31,681
"Well, it just takes too
much time and it's too hard."
1225
01:12:31,848 --> 01:12:34,142
And so they just sing
and then they tune 'em all.
1226
01:12:34,309 --> 01:12:35,810
And that's ridiculous to me.
1227
01:12:35,977 --> 01:12:37,354
Please welcome Kylie Minogue.
1228
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:40,523
[cheering]
1229
01:12:40,690 --> 01:12:44,319
Well, good evening, everyone.
How you feeling?
1230
01:12:44,486 --> 01:12:46,363
[Hill] Actually, I've gotten
a lot of criticism.
1231
01:12:46,529 --> 01:12:48,740
I've done a couple of gigs
I thought I would get,
1232
01:12:48,907 --> 01:12:51,534
just get away with, you know.
And I even put a wig on.
1233
01:12:51,701 --> 01:12:54,579
I put, like, a
straight-hair
wig. Like, on this Jay Leno gig,
1234
01:12:54,746 --> 01:12:58,416
no one's gonna know it's me. And then
I get these tweets from fans, like,
1235
01:12:58,583 --> 01:13:01,795
"How could you do this? You're singing
in front of... behind her,
1236
01:13:01,961 --> 01:13:04,422
and, you know,
you go from Michael to..."
1237
01:13:04,589 --> 01:13:07,592
And like just criticism, and I'm like,
"How did you even know that was me?"
1238
01:13:07,759 --> 01:13:11,763
[laughs] But I'm, like, right
in the transitional stage here.
1239
01:13:11,930 --> 01:13:15,141
I am not at a position where
I can turn down everything,
1240
01:13:15,308 --> 01:13:17,268
because all of these things as an artist
1241
01:13:17,435 --> 01:13:20,146
are really expensive
and my dreams are huge.
1242
01:13:20,313 --> 01:13:24,609
So I have been doing some
background singing on the side.
1243
01:13:24,776 --> 01:13:25,985
[Stevie Wonder: "How Sweet It ls"]
1244
01:13:26,152 --> 01:13:29,864
I want to stop
and thank you with this now
1245
01:13:30,031 --> 01:13:35,161
How sweet it is
to be loved by you
1246
01:13:35,328 --> 01:13:38,081
Oh, yes, it is, yeah
1247
01:13:38,248 --> 01:13:40,291
How sweet it is
1248
01:13:40,458 --> 01:13:43,837
[Wonder] With Judith, I knew that she
had an incredible voice.
1249
01:13:44,003 --> 01:13:48,341
I know that she sang in church,
and it was a really wonderful thing
1250
01:13:48,508 --> 01:13:51,177
when I heard her songs.
1251
01:13:51,344 --> 01:13:54,681
I said, "You're gonna do something."
1252
01:13:54,848 --> 01:14:00,145
How sweet it is
to be loved by you
1253
01:14:02,730 --> 01:14:05,859
[Hill] Stevie is very excited
about me as an artist as well.
1254
01:14:06,025 --> 01:14:08,611
He's really shown that.
1255
01:14:08,778 --> 01:14:11,781
But it's just an honor to just be able
to... I don't really care.
1256
01:14:11,948 --> 01:14:14,826
I mean, I just love singing
with him regardless, you know.
1257
01:14:14,993 --> 01:14:16,995
[Wonder] As much
as you're enjoying this,
1258
01:14:17,162 --> 01:14:21,332
don't let your dream disappear,
1259
01:14:21,499 --> 01:14:24,252
because you wanna be with me
or be around me.
1260
01:14:24,419 --> 01:14:26,546
You gotta step out there
and do your thing.
1261
01:14:26,713 --> 01:14:29,424
Sing, dah-dah-dah-dah-dah
1262
01:14:29,591 --> 01:14:31,426
[vocalizing]
1263
01:14:34,220 --> 01:14:35,555
[Wonder] People singing together
1264
01:14:35,722 --> 01:14:39,476
has always meant to me
people coming together.
1265
01:14:39,642 --> 01:14:44,063
[Maxwell] What moves people
is the humanness of it, not the machine.
1266
01:14:44,230 --> 01:14:45,315
That's not the same as someone
1267
01:14:45,482 --> 01:14:47,650
singing and playing to you
and putting their heart into it.
1268
01:14:47,817 --> 01:14:50,987
And great background singers,
you know, it's moving.
1269
01:14:53,698 --> 01:14:55,617
[Austin] For a long time,
I'd say a good five years,
1270
01:14:55,783 --> 01:14:57,660
you couldn't hear
a background on a record.
1271
01:14:57,827 --> 01:14:59,913
You wouldn't hear anybody
doing a hum or an "ooh"
1272
01:15:00,079 --> 01:15:03,917
or a "la" or... or an
answer line or anything.
1273
01:15:04,083 --> 01:15:05,835
Nothin'.
1274
01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:09,380
[vocalizing]
1275
01:15:09,547 --> 01:15:12,383
[woman] There's not as much work
for background singers,
1276
01:15:12,550 --> 01:15:14,761
because different ones have
called me over the years
1277
01:15:14,928 --> 01:15:16,846
and just asked me,
"Are you working?
1278
01:15:17,013 --> 01:15:20,016
'Cause my phone
hasn't been ringing."
1279
01:15:20,183 --> 01:15:22,352
[vocalizing]
1280
01:15:26,773 --> 01:15:30,193
A lot of home studios, people
have their families singing,
1281
01:15:30,360 --> 01:15:31,778
doing all the vocal parts
themselves.
1282
01:15:31,945 --> 01:15:35,240
It's just put a lot
of singers out of work.
1283
01:15:35,406 --> 01:15:39,077
[harmonizing vocals]
1284
01:15:49,128 --> 01:15:50,338
[Both] When you get to the '90s,
1285
01:15:50,505 --> 01:15:53,550
you're starting to see
major structural changes.
1286
01:15:53,716 --> 01:15:57,512
The big recording sessions associated
with the '70s and the '80s,
1287
01:15:57,679 --> 01:15:59,514
they're not happening anymore.
1288
01:16:02,267 --> 01:16:05,812
[Jones] People didn't want
to pay the background singer,
1289
01:16:05,979 --> 01:16:07,272
'cause they don't
think they need it.
1290
01:16:07,438 --> 01:16:09,107
They were saying, "Hey,
we don't have to...
1291
01:16:09,274 --> 01:16:10,650
We don't have to write
that check,"
1292
01:16:10,817 --> 01:16:13,361
not realizing that was the sound.
1293
01:16:13,528 --> 01:16:17,740
And that's why Joe Cooker
and The Stones and Rod Stewart,
1294
01:16:17,907 --> 01:16:22,036
David and all of these wonderful people,
they have their singers there.
1295
01:16:22,203 --> 01:16:25,373
They need those
background singers.
1296
01:16:30,211 --> 01:16:32,880
[Lasley] You do tend to wonder,
is there a cutoff point
1297
01:16:33,047 --> 01:16:37,677
or is there a way to leave
this occupation or this life
1298
01:16:37,844 --> 01:16:39,804
without dying of heartbreak or,
you know, or just,
1299
01:16:39,971 --> 01:16:43,641
is it the biggest jones of all?
1300
01:16:45,685 --> 01:16:49,772
You get hooked on music,
you are fucked, you know.
1301
01:16:49,939 --> 01:16:54,944
[soft static sound from microphone]
1302
01:16:57,071 --> 01:17:00,700
When you get into a relationship,
you know, there's an energy.
1303
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:07,624
It's like when you see a married
couple walking into a room.
1304
01:17:08,791 --> 01:17:13,254
You see them part, but you still feel
that string that binds them.
1305
01:17:13,421 --> 01:17:17,467
I never really had that.
1306
01:17:19,719 --> 01:17:23,556
So I always felt like I
belonged to everyone, you know,
1307
01:17:23,723 --> 01:17:25,808
a part of my heart,
1308
01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:28,436
a part of who I am
belongs to everybody.
1309
01:17:28,603 --> 01:17:31,314
So, I mean, sometimes
when I, you know,
1310
01:17:31,481 --> 01:17:33,691
talk to my friends who have
children or who are married,
1311
01:17:33,858 --> 01:17:36,235
I think to myself,
1312
01:17:36,402 --> 01:17:40,365
"Hmm, maybe I should've gotten
married and had some kids
1313
01:17:40,531 --> 01:17:45,244
and done all that kinda thing."
But... I'm good.
1314
01:17:45,411 --> 01:17:49,290
[laughs] I am so good.
1315
01:17:54,962 --> 01:17:57,840
[Botti] Lisa is so
incredibly versatile,
1316
01:17:58,007 --> 01:18:01,678
then you almost, you're so talented,
you almost get like option anxiety.
1317
01:18:01,844 --> 01:18:03,971
Well, what do I do?
Should I stay with the R&B thing?
1318
01:18:04,138 --> 01:18:06,015
Well, R&B was so big at the time.
1319
01:18:06,182 --> 01:18:08,393
Then you're up against Whitney
and Mariah and blah and blah and blah.
1320
01:18:08,559 --> 01:18:10,853
Then, maybe I should do a little bit
more of the rock thing.
1321
01:18:11,020 --> 01:18:14,190
And her phone rings and it's Mick Jagger
and he says, "Join The Stones,"
1322
01:18:14,357 --> 01:18:18,403
and that's a hard thing to, you know,
to turn away from, you know.
1323
01:18:18,569 --> 01:18:20,029
That's a... [laughs]
1324
01:18:20,196 --> 01:18:21,572
[Rolling Stones: "Gimme Shelter"]
1325
01:18:21,739 --> 01:18:25,576
Rape, murder
1326
01:18:25,743 --> 01:18:29,956
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
1327
01:18:30,123 --> 01:18:32,041
Rape...
1328
01:18:32,208 --> 01:18:34,585
[Jagger] It's great to have
the female voice, you know,
1329
01:18:34,752 --> 01:18:37,922
otherwise it's me, me, me, me and me
and then it's a bit of Keith and...
1330
01:18:38,089 --> 01:18:42,260
But still, you know, it's still
the same kind of masculinity.
1331
01:18:42,427 --> 01:18:45,847
And then when you can get
someone like Lisa to step out
1332
01:18:46,013 --> 01:18:48,224
and you've got a whole
new voice out there.
1333
01:18:48,391 --> 01:18:51,477
[vocalizing]
1334
01:18:57,275 --> 01:18:58,901
[Fischer] It's like, I could
hear how Mick was singing it
1335
01:18:59,068 --> 01:19:02,572
and I, you know,
react to him a certain way.
1336
01:19:02,739 --> 01:19:05,324
My very life today
1337
01:19:05,491 --> 01:19:08,995
Like nobody else was in the room.
It was freeing in a weird way.
1338
01:19:09,162 --> 01:19:10,788
Gimme shelter
1339
01:19:10,955 --> 01:19:15,084
Or I'm gonna fade away
1340
01:19:15,251 --> 01:19:17,295
[Austin] Why isn't
she promoting herself
1341
01:19:17,462 --> 01:19:19,255
and why is she outwith
The Rolling Stones all the time?
1342
01:19:19,422 --> 01:19:21,215
It's because she's
comfortable doing that.
1343
01:19:21,382 --> 01:19:23,676
She loves doing it
and she's got it all to herself.
1344
01:19:23,843 --> 01:19:24,844
She's not stupid.
1345
01:19:25,011 --> 01:19:28,181
It's just a shot away
It's just a shot away
1346
01:19:28,890 --> 01:19:32,560
It's just a shot away
Shot away, shot away
1347
01:19:32,727 --> 01:19:36,272
I wanna be able to walk the streets
and not have to worry about, you know,
1348
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,691
putting on sunglasses
and hiding out and, you know,
1349
01:19:38,858 --> 01:19:41,736
the tits up in the air
and, you know... I just... I...
1350
01:19:41,903 --> 01:19:46,157
I'm just... I'm not feeling that.
I'm just not feeling that.
1351
01:19:46,324 --> 01:19:50,495
It's just a kiss away
It's just a kiss away
1352
01:19:50,661 --> 01:19:54,707
Kiss away, kiss away
Kiss away
1353
01:19:54,874 --> 01:19:58,669
[Fischer] Some people will do
anything to be famous,
1354
01:19:58,836 --> 01:20:03,007
and then there are other people
who just will sing.
1355
01:20:03,174 --> 01:20:08,596
It's not about anything except
being in this special space
1356
01:20:08,763 --> 01:20:13,976
with people, and that is
really the higher calling to me.
1357
01:20:14,143 --> 01:20:17,230
[crowd cheering]
1358
01:20:19,774 --> 01:20:22,652
[soft piano music]
1359
01:20:35,289 --> 01:20:38,584
[Clayton] Seemingly, every time I get
ready to do something really big,
1360
01:20:38,751 --> 01:20:41,754
or something really, really wonderful,
something would just happen
1361
01:20:41,921 --> 01:20:44,465
that would just knock me
to my knees, you know.
1362
01:20:45,925 --> 01:20:48,469
You don't want everybody to know
you got this at Pick 'n Save.
1363
01:20:48,636 --> 01:20:49,679
Ha!
1364
01:20:49,846 --> 01:20:51,597
I said, "God, what is this?
1365
01:20:51,764 --> 01:20:55,101
Am I not supposed to be doing this?
If I'm not supposed to be doing this,
1366
01:20:55,268 --> 01:20:57,520
then show me I'm not
supposed to be doing this,
1367
01:20:57,687 --> 01:21:00,189
and I won't do it, you know."
But I never was shown.
1368
01:21:00,356 --> 01:21:03,818
- [all] Amen.
- Praise the Lord.
1369
01:21:05,695 --> 01:21:08,155
And I just stay cool,
stay humble,
1370
01:21:08,322 --> 01:21:10,867
stay beautiful
and just do the work.
1371
01:21:11,033 --> 01:21:13,536
[Clayton] Thank you.
Thank you so much.
1372
01:21:13,828 --> 01:21:17,707
[Both] If somebody says, "You're gonna
become an international superstar, "
1373
01:21:17,874 --> 01:21:20,001
of course everyone would spend
the money and do that.
1374
01:21:20,167 --> 01:21:22,753
But if you're living in a little place
and you have no money
1375
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,589
and you got a little bit saved
and they say,
1376
01:21:24,755 --> 01:21:26,340
"You gotta risk all of that
1377
01:21:26,507 --> 01:21:28,843
and you still might be working
McDonald's tomorrow,"
1378
01:21:29,010 --> 01:21:34,348
I think you gotta be absolutely
crazy to go after it like that, yeah.
1379
01:21:34,515 --> 01:21:37,143
[soft piano music]
1380
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,071
[Lennear] It was just...
1381
01:21:49,238 --> 01:21:52,992
I came to a fork in the road
and music wasn't on it.
1382
01:21:53,159 --> 01:21:56,621
[Speaking Spanish]
1383
01:21:56,787 --> 01:22:00,374
Meaning, "I'm sorry,
I'm very sorry, or..."
1384
01:22:00,541 --> 01:22:05,713
[Lennear] I've been teaching
Spanish for ten to 15 years.
1385
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,717
Maybe you're
where you're supposed to be
1386
01:22:12,261 --> 01:22:15,806
Safely kept within the crowd
1387
01:22:15,973 --> 01:22:18,100
[Lennear] It's always
been a missing link.
1388
01:22:18,267 --> 01:22:22,146
You're looking for a reason
to break free
1389
01:22:22,313 --> 01:22:27,902
It's been a regret
that I didn't just hang in there,
1390
01:22:28,069 --> 01:22:32,239
especially when I see my contemporaries
progressing in their musical lives.
1391
01:22:32,406 --> 01:22:35,576
Try to let it out
1392
01:22:37,578 --> 01:22:39,664
So much worse
1393
01:22:39,830 --> 01:22:42,541
[Lennear] I never said it
wasn't for me, never.
1394
01:22:42,708 --> 01:22:47,838
If I did, I was lying to myself.
It's always been for me, always.
1395
01:22:48,005 --> 01:22:53,094
Just do it. Maybe that's one way to get
rid of that gnawing once and for all.
1396
01:22:53,260 --> 01:22:55,554
Oh, chance
1397
01:22:55,721 --> 01:22:58,391
We all need
We all need, we all need
1398
01:22:58,557 --> 01:23:02,311
We all need a little desperation
1399
01:23:03,187 --> 01:23:08,275
Let's have a warm, warm welcome
for Miss Judith Hill.
1400
01:23:08,442 --> 01:23:10,277
- [cheering]
- Do you want, do you want
1401
01:23:10,444 --> 01:23:11,445
Do you want
1402
01:23:11,612 --> 01:23:15,199
Do you want a little inspiration?
1403
01:23:15,366 --> 01:23:17,618
'Cause every wound
Every wound, every wound
1404
01:23:17,785 --> 01:23:21,247
Really needs a little desperation
1405
01:23:21,414 --> 01:23:24,542
There's machines that make people stars
that don't have talent.
1406
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:28,421
They don't really sing live.
Someone could have done that for Judith,
1407
01:23:28,587 --> 01:23:31,048
but I think what she has is deeper,
1408
01:23:31,215 --> 01:23:34,885
and maybe selling 500 million records
is not the best thing for her.
1409
01:23:35,052 --> 01:23:39,557
Let it out
1410
01:23:41,600 --> 01:23:47,356
So much worse
if you don't try now
1411
01:23:47,523 --> 01:23:50,943
It's more than just leaning on your
talent. You gotta be disciplined.
1412
01:23:51,110 --> 01:23:52,653
Gotta get up in the morning.
You gotta go do it.
1413
01:23:52,820 --> 01:23:54,655
Take a chance
1414
01:23:54,822 --> 01:23:56,741
Take a chance...
1415
01:23:56,907 --> 01:23:59,869
Opportunity's knocking.
Open the door. Get going, kiddo.
1416
01:24:00,036 --> 01:24:03,122
We all need, we all need
We all need
1417
01:24:03,289 --> 01:24:06,584
A little desperation
1418
01:24:06,751 --> 01:24:09,211
Can I have, can I have
Can I have
1419
01:24:09,378 --> 01:24:11,589
[Wonder] In these times that
we're living in right now,
1420
01:24:11,756 --> 01:24:13,924
a lot of it is based on
so many other things
1421
01:24:14,091 --> 01:24:16,052
that have nothing
to do with music.
1422
01:24:16,218 --> 01:24:19,055
Do you want
a little inspiration?
1423
01:24:19,221 --> 01:24:22,141
[Wonder] But, you know, at the end
of the day, it's up to you
1424
01:24:22,308 --> 01:24:24,310
to perfect that gift
that you've been given.
1425
01:24:24,477 --> 01:24:27,271
Put your spirit into that song.
1426
01:24:27,438 --> 01:24:29,940
Focus on the words
that you're singing.
1427
01:24:30,107 --> 01:24:33,486
Get into the experience
of what you're singing about
1428
01:24:33,652 --> 01:24:35,446
and sing your heart out.
1429
01:24:35,613 --> 01:24:40,993
A little desperation
1430
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,454
[Love] Every time you get up,
you might fall down,
1431
01:24:43,621 --> 01:24:45,539
but you gotta get back up again,
you know,
1432
01:24:45,706 --> 01:24:48,793
and believe me when I tell you,
it's not easy, especially at my age.
1433
01:24:48,959 --> 01:24:52,171
I didn't start my solo career
till I was 40.
1434
01:24:52,338 --> 01:24:55,341
Tonight marks
the 25th anniversary
1435
01:24:55,508 --> 01:24:57,635
of a favorite holiday tradition
here at The Late Show.
1436
01:24:57,802 --> 01:24:59,303
Ladies and Gentlemen,
please welcome
1437
01:24:59,470 --> 01:25:01,972
the remarkable Darlene Love.
1438
01:25:02,139 --> 01:25:04,892
- [piano music playing]
- [inaudible singing]
1439
01:25:09,647 --> 01:25:11,649
[Darlene Love: "Lean On Me"]
1440
01:25:11,816 --> 01:25:16,904
Sometimes in our lives
1441
01:25:17,071 --> 01:25:20,991
We all have pain
1442
01:25:21,158 --> 01:25:26,705
We all have sorrow
1443
01:25:26,872 --> 01:25:31,877
But if we are wise
1444
01:25:32,044 --> 01:25:35,506
We know that there's
1445
01:25:35,673 --> 01:25:39,385
Always tomorrow
1446
01:25:39,552 --> 01:25:42,930
- Lean on me
- Lean on me
1447
01:25:43,097 --> 01:25:46,350
When you're not strong
1448
01:25:46,517 --> 01:25:49,979
And I'll be your friend
1449
01:25:50,146 --> 01:25:54,817
I'll help you carry on
1450
01:25:54,984 --> 01:25:57,069
[Midler] And now it is
my honor and pleasure
1451
01:25:57,236 --> 01:25:59,738
to induct into
the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame,
1452
01:25:59,905 --> 01:26:03,576
and about time too,
Miss Darlene Love.
1453
01:26:03,742 --> 01:26:10,499
- [applause]
- Somebody to lean on
1454
01:26:10,666 --> 01:26:15,129
Please follow your pride
1455
01:26:15,296 --> 01:26:17,548
[Love] Thank you,
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
1456
01:26:17,715 --> 01:26:21,719
I am truly honored
and overwhelmed.
1457
01:26:21,886 --> 01:26:24,680
Tomorrow
1458
01:26:24,847 --> 01:26:28,058
[woman] So many of us,
Merry Clayton, the Waters,
1459
01:26:28,225 --> 01:26:30,019
we stand on her shoulders.
1460
01:26:31,145 --> 01:26:32,605
[Love] My mother
told this one lady,
1461
01:26:32,771 --> 01:26:35,191
"Oh, my daughter's in New York now.
She's on Broadway.
1462
01:26:35,357 --> 01:26:38,944
And they go, "What daughter?" Said,
"The one that used to clean your house."
1463
01:26:39,695 --> 01:26:41,780
- Lean on me
- Lean on me
1464
01:26:41,947 --> 01:26:45,034
- When you're not strong
- Lean on me
1465
01:26:45,201 --> 01:26:48,579
And I'll be your friend
1466
01:26:48,746 --> 01:26:54,460
I'll help you carry on
1467
01:26:54,627 --> 01:26:56,170
- For
- Lean on me
1468
01:26:56,337 --> 01:26:59,715
- It won't be long
- Lean on me
1469
01:26:59,882 --> 01:27:02,843
Till I'm gonna need
1470
01:27:03,010 --> 01:27:07,514
Somebody to lean on
1471
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:11,769
[Alexander] I've seen artists
come and go,
1472
01:27:11,936 --> 01:27:15,564
and I look around on stage
and it's the same players.
1473
01:27:15,731 --> 01:27:18,651
They're in the game,
or they've stayed in the game
1474
01:27:18,817 --> 01:27:21,362
and they're legends
and they're amazing.
1475
01:27:21,528 --> 01:27:24,365
Lean on me
1476
01:27:24,531 --> 01:27:27,743
- When you're not strong
- When you're not strong
1477
01:27:27,910 --> 01:27:31,747
- I'll be your friend
- I'll be your friend
1478
01:27:31,914 --> 01:27:37,086
- I'll help you carry on
- Yes, I will
1479
01:27:37,253 --> 01:27:41,173
[Vega] Singing background,
it helped me find me.
1480
01:27:41,340 --> 01:27:45,344
It got back
to the love of music.
1481
01:27:45,511 --> 01:27:50,808
Somebody to lean
1482
01:27:50,975 --> 01:27:53,852
- Lean on me
- Lean on me
1483
01:27:54,019 --> 01:27:57,314
- When you're not strong
- When you're not strong
1484
01:27:57,481 --> 01:28:00,901
- I'll be your friend
- And I'll be your friend
1485
01:28:01,068 --> 01:28:06,532
- I'll help you carry on
- Yes, I will, yes, I will
1486
01:28:06,699 --> 01:28:11,370
- For it won't be long
- It won't be long
1487
01:28:11,537 --> 01:28:13,622
Till I'm gonna need
1488
01:28:13,789 --> 01:28:16,208
[John] We have a gift.
We can hear a song
1489
01:28:16,375 --> 01:28:18,460
and find our part
and harmonize with it.
1490
01:28:18,627 --> 01:28:20,337
Children on the
corner's doing it.
1491
01:28:20,504 --> 01:28:23,757
Little babies do it
when they learn to sing.
1492
01:28:23,924 --> 01:28:26,969
- [vocalizing]
- It's the gift coming out.
1493
01:28:27,136 --> 01:28:31,181
Now, what you do with the gift
is you.
1494
01:28:31,348 --> 01:28:35,019
- [cheering, applause]
- [Love] Like the old days.
1495
01:28:35,185 --> 01:28:38,397
OK, next session.
1496
01:28:39,023 --> 01:28:40,024
[Darlene Love: "A Fine, Fine Boy"]
1497
01:28:40,190 --> 01:28:41,191
[Love] My 190)'!
1498
01:28:41,358 --> 01:28:43,193
[music plays]
1499
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:45,446
I've got so much love
in my heart for him,
1500
01:28:45,612 --> 01:28:48,866
and I just don't feel like me
when he's not around.
1501
01:28:49,033 --> 01:28:51,994
Yeah, there are boys
and there are boys,
1502
01:28:52,161 --> 01:28:55,497
- but he's a...
- Fine, fine boy
1503
01:28:55,664 --> 01:28:58,876
I wanna tell the world
about the boy I love
1504
01:28:59,043 --> 01:29:01,962
Just the kind of guy
I've been dreaming of
1505
01:29:02,129 --> 01:29:05,174
He's so sincere
When he holds me tight
1506
01:29:05,341 --> 01:29:09,762
When I'm blue
He makes me feel all right
1507
01:29:11,972 --> 01:29:15,351
He even takes me places
and buys me things
1508
01:29:15,517 --> 01:29:18,479
But love is more important
than a diamond ring
1509
01:29:18,645 --> 01:29:21,899
All I wanna do
is stay by his side
1510
01:29:22,066 --> 01:29:26,737
Take care of him
and I'll be satisfied
1511
01:29:26,904 --> 01:29:29,698
'Cause he's got
a sweet, sweet kiss
1512
01:29:29,865 --> 01:29:31,825
And a true, true heart
1513
01:29:31,992 --> 01:29:34,912
Something tells me
that we'll never part
1514
01:29:35,079 --> 01:29:37,956
He's got a sweet, sweet kiss
and a true, true heart
1515
01:29:38,123 --> 01:29:40,459
And he's fine, fine, fine
1516
01:29:40,626 --> 01:29:43,587
No, he's fine, fine, fine
1517
01:29:43,754 --> 01:29:47,257
Let me tell you
He's a fine, fine boy
1518
01:29:50,427 --> 01:29:53,639
- Yeah
- Fine, fine boy
1519
01:29:53,806 --> 01:29:57,601
I know he's fine
And he's mine
1520
01:29:57,768 --> 01:30:02,106
- He's a fine, fine boy
- Yeah, he's mine
1521
01:30:02,272 --> 01:30:06,193
- He's fine
- He's a fine, fine boy
1522
01:30:06,360 --> 01:30:08,987
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
1523
01:30:09,154 --> 01:30:16,703
He's mine
He's a fine, fine boy
1524
01:30:24,586 --> 01:30:27,965
- Whoo!
- [crowd cheering]
1525
01:30:28,132 --> 01:30:30,467
[Springsteen] Darlene Love!
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