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There has been another arrest
in the Mineola sex ring case.
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Today,
a total of six men and women
have now been arrested.
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Smith County police say
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they are accused
of forcing four children,
under the age of seven,
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to perform
at a swingers' club.
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The brainwashing,
that starts
at a very young age.
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I wasn't just the only one
that was scared to speak out.
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It felt like a cult.
The fear that was
instilled into us.
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Words cannot describe
what these children
have gone through.
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There is no case here.
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This is smoke
and mirrors bull [bleep].
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You know, the defense
just don't like the fact
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that their client
got convicted
and got a life sentence.
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I mean, let's call it
what it is.
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I've called it
just a plain old
Texas frame-up.
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They basically took
my childhood from me.
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They destroyed me
and my family.
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They were guilty. 100%.
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I was told
keep your mouth shut
in this town.
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Don't make any waves.
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I made waves.
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This is taken in our driveway
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at Christmas.
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'Cause I love them so much
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and they've been so hurt.
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My husband John and I
moved from California
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to Mineola, Texas in 2004.
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That town was so adorable.
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It was fabulous.
We just fell in love.
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Mineola is a great
little Texas town.
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It's quiet, relaxed living.
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It's a conservative community.
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Most of the people in Mineola
are God-fearing people.
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I don't go to church
every Sunday,
but I'm a God-fearing man.
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The people here
are absolutely wonderful.
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Mineola people
will do anything
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to help their neighbors
here in a heartbeat.
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It's not.
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When we first went there,
it was wonderful.
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But then I started
hearing stories.
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Its nickname, by the way,
is Sodom and Gomorrah.
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Always has been.
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One day, I saw an article
in the paper.
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Oh my gosh,
this is just unbelievable.
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I didn't know we had
a swingers' club in town.
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When we heard
about the swingers' club
it was a shock.
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People said,
not in our neighborhood.
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We just couldn't believe
that a swingers' club
was here,
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'cause that's not us.
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There was probably
maybe 10 couples,
and we played movies on the TV
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and they all sit down
and got to
talking to each other
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and then they divided up
and whoever wanted to go
with whoever,
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that's what they did.
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We could imagine
what was going on in there,
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but we weren't part of it.
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And it wasn't illegal.
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But to put a swingers' club
around here
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is like rolling a stink bomb
into a Baptist church
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and expecting
everybody to just say,
"Oh, that's okay,"
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and keep on praying.
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For them to put it here
was just, ugh.
Make you grind your teeth.
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Because of the article
in the newspaper,
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as a mom, I'm concerned,
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and I'm a praying woman,
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and so we drove up
to the swingers' club.
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And we literally
raised our hands
toward that building
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and we prayed and we prayed
and we prayed
that it would get shut down.
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Right after that,
it closed down.
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It was like it went boom.
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It was here one day
and gone the next.
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I was elated.
They don't belong
in this town.
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My husband, John, and I,
we're Baptist.
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I accepted Christ
when I was 12 years old
as my savior.
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In California,
I went to college.
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I got my administration
in early childhood development.
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And I passed it
with flying colors.
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And so I became a foster mom.
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When I started taking
foster children,
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they were very troubled.
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And I had made a promise,
don't give up on them.
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And that's what drove me.
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At one point, I was the mother
of 15 teenagers at one time
in the house.
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We loved it.
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But it was so hard.
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And so in 2004,
we decided we could retire,
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pay off a house,
and just start relaxing.
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And that's when we
bought the house
on Lake Brenda in Mineola.
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It was right on the lake.
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Just fish and retire,
that was our goal.
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At the time,
we had six children
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but then my son said,
"You know,
you're such a good mom."
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"Go help at least
one or two more kids."
And so I did.
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And I was given Hunter,
Shelby and Carly,
to be my kids.
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Before Margie's,
in the beginning,
we were just kids.
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It was fun, we were happy.
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Happy birthday to you.
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I loved my cap guns.
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Used to play
Cowboys and Indians
with my older sister.
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We used to ride bikes
with the kids down the street.
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There was nothing really
that bad about
being kids back then.
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But then things changed
in our life.
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As a child,
I don't remember my dad.
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I only remember my stepdad,
Jamie, ever being around.
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Jamie and my mom
would get into arguments.
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And sometimes,
my mom would pass out.
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As kids,
we didn't really understand
the things between them.
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And then one day, I remember
Child Services coming.
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The reason
that we were given
by the social worker,
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why they were taken away,
was that they were neglected.
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The parents were on
crack cocaine.
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And so I took them in
because I wanted to help.
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I remember the drive
to their house.
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I was constantly asking,
so y'all live on the lake?
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Thinking they live
in the middle of this lake
that we're going to.
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And when we got there,
the house was nice.
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The door's still broke.
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Oh, wow.
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This is different.
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It is.
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Remember that table, there.
Long table.
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Carly is my little sister.
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I have always been
protective of her.
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When I was at the Cantrells',
I was very hyperactive.
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I was, like, four.
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So I was the baby.
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Everyone protected me,
including Shelby and Hunter.
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I never thought I'd be
back in the house.
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Shelby and Carly
lived in this room here.
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It actually looks
the exact same.
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Margie was fun and bubbly,
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kind of the mother
type of personality
that a kid would want.
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John Cantrell's personality
was calming and laid back,
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but not as bubbly and open
like Margie was.
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John did teach us
how to fish.
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We used to watch westerns
with him.
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Well, I used to wake up
about 4:30 in the morning
before school
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and go out and fish,
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just 'cause I liked the peace,
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and fishing was also
a passion of mine.
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Well, at the time,
life was okay.
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But they were very troubled.
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One day,
Shelby was down in the bedroom
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and she had a pole on her bed
and she was doing
a pole dance.
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This is just a little
seven-year-old girl.
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And she's swinging her hair
around and she's doing...
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it looked like
a rehearsed dance.
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Hunter was a handful.
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He was so angry and violent.
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They were extremely,
extremely hard to handle children.
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Very young
and very, very broken.
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But we had promised
to stand by these kids.
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At that point,
I had nine children
in the home.
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And so, I thought,
if we buy a facility,
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we can put the kids there
and I can run it
and have a good group home.
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So I called
our real estate agent
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and told her that I was
interested in a property
in town.
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But this building was in fact
the swingers' club.
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The lot was really large
that it sat on.
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So we decided
we were going to go up
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and see if we could see
in the windows.
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When Margie took me
to the swingers' club,
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she told us
that she was thinking about
buying the place.
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Last time
I was in this building,
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I think I was, like,
eight years old.
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My sisters were with me,
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John and Margie.
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It's pretty hard to be in here
considering what happened.
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It was wet and moldy
and stunk.
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It was nasty.
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So I wouldn't let the kids
go anywhere.
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And Hunter, Shelby and I
stayed by the door.
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And then all of a sudden,
Shelby said,
"I know this place."
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"You know, if you could see
in that room over there,"
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"it has big white flowers
with green leaves."
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So I said,
"Hunter, open the door."
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She said,
"Mom, that's where
I had to dance."
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"And you see that part
that goes like this?"
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"There was a curtain on it
and Jamie was back there,"
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"and I when I danced,
I had to go back
and give him the money."
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I just froze. I just froze.
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And then Hunter,
when we were leaving, said,
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"If you look over
by the big tree,
my ball is there."
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And that baby's ball
was there.
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I called the social worker.
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She said, "Get them to
the police department
immediately."
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When I got to
the police department,
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I filled out
what had just happened.
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After I wrote
my report out,
they talked to the kids.
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They told the police
that there was a room
called Jamie Pittman's room,
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that they did dances and acts
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and their mother, Shauntel,
would be there.
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And they said
that they were trained
in a kindergarten.
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My knowledge of a kindergarten
is kindergarten, school.
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But it wasn't.
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It was a grooming place.
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I would think
that a police department
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would go in with all barrels
and investigate.
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And then I found out
that within two days
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they closed the case.
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To just go to
Shauntel and Jamie's trailer
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and say,
"Well, didn't happen,"
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it was like
calling the children a liar.
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And they heard everything
from the kids.
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The same outcries.
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But the Mineola Police
closed it.
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How dare them?
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That put a million red flags
in my mind.
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The first time
I heard about this case,
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I thought, oh my God.
This is going on.
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This incredible
child sex scandal.
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These parents
had taken these kids
to the swingers' club
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and they danced on stage
for money.
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We need to really
look into this.
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Mineola is in Wood County
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and Tyler,
which is a large city,
is very close,
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but it's in Smith County.
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There is a real difference
in Smith County
law enforcement
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as opposed to
Wood County law enforcement.
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All counties in Texas
are very conservative
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when it comes
to law and order,
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but no county
is more conservative
than Smith County.
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It has a long-time reputation
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for throwing the book
at criminals,
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for prosecuting hard,
for investigating hard,
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for having a very high
conviction rate.
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And so when
the Mineola Police Department
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didn't pursue
the investigation any further,
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Margie wanted something done
about it.
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If the Mineola cops
weren't going to
listen to her,
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she was going to find somebody
who would.
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So Margie decides
to go to Smith County.
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And the Smith County
DA's office had
an assistant district attorney
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who handled nothing but
child cases
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and her name was
Tiffany Wickel.
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She had been part of the team
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that had taken
Hunter and Shelby
away from their mother.
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So when she heard
about what Margie was saying,
she became very alarmed.
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She came to
the Mineola police department
and basically tore them up.
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Listen to these outcries
of these children
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and what is going on.
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And within two weeks,
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Tiffany Wickel had brought in
Texas Ranger Phillip Kemp.
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Tiffany called me
and said,
244
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"You need to bring
the children to Smith County"
245
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"because the Texas Ranger
wants to come
and meet the children."
246
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Ranger Kemp was very nice.
247
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He was very good
with the children.
248
00:17:33,953 --> 00:17:36,556
And he said, "And all I
want you to do
is just be there,"
249
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"comfort them, you know,"
250
00:17:39,126 --> 00:17:42,562
"walk them through it,
you know, it's okay."
That's what mommies do.
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When I first met Ranger Kemp,
252
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he came in with a cowboy hat
and a gun.
253
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Cowboy looking dude.
Sheriff looking guy
from a Western or something.
254
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It was a little more exciting
than I'd probably
like to admit.
255
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It's a bit confusing,
the folks involved in this.
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And let me start at the top
with the eldest
of all the people involved,
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which is Shelia Sones.
258
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And Shelia
is Carly's grandmother.
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Carly's grandmother,
Shelia, was married to Jimmy.
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Booger Red was
the nickname of Patrick Kelly.
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He was friends with
Shauntel and Jamie
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and they'd hang out together
at his trailer in Tyler.
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And it was in this trailer
where, apparently,
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00:21:35,194 --> 00:21:37,063
the sex kindergarten
had taken place.
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Ranger Kemp's investigation
uncovered a sex kindergarten
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in Tyler
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run by Shelia, Jimmy,
Jamie Pittman, Booger Red
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and Shauntel.
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00:22:27,079 --> 00:22:28,881
These kids had been indoctrinated
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into this sex kindergarten
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and then they had come up
to Mineola
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and they had danced onstage
for money.
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In these interviews,
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00:22:37,424 --> 00:22:40,727
these kids increasingly told
more and more things
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about what happened.
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This was one of
the last times
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I actually ever saw
my parents
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before I went
into foster care.
279
00:23:20,533 --> 00:23:23,202
My parents were Shelia Sones
and Jimmy Sones.
280
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Shauntel is my sister.
281
00:23:25,605 --> 00:23:28,641
And Jamie Pittman was
Shauntel's boyfriend.
282
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Shauntel has three children,
the oldest being Shelby,
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the middle being Hunter
284
00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:35,482
and then the youngest
is Carly.
285
00:23:35,482 --> 00:23:37,817
I considered them
my siblings.
286
00:23:37,817 --> 00:23:39,619
We were the same age.
287
00:23:39,619 --> 00:23:41,821
We didn't have
the relationship of
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"Oh, that's my niece."
289
00:23:43,189 --> 00:23:46,526
It was more than that.
We were raised together.
290
00:23:46,526 --> 00:23:49,862
And we called each other
brother and sister
all the time,
291
00:23:49,862 --> 00:23:51,297
but they got to live together
292
00:23:51,297 --> 00:23:52,565
and I didn't
get to be with them.
293
00:23:52,565 --> 00:23:54,266
And I never understood that.
294
00:23:57,504 --> 00:23:59,539
I was seven years old.
295
00:24:00,072 --> 00:24:02,308
I was in gym class
296
00:24:02,308 --> 00:24:05,545
and I remember them calling me
over the intercom
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00:24:05,545 --> 00:24:07,580
to come to
the principal's office.
298
00:24:07,580 --> 00:24:10,883
So, you know,
I'm sittin' here thinking
I did something wrong.
299
00:24:10,883 --> 00:24:13,085
So, I went to
the principal's office
300
00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:16,923
and that's when a CPS worker
came to pick me up.
301
00:24:18,658 --> 00:24:20,827
She took me to
the Child Advocacy Center.
302
00:24:23,830 --> 00:24:26,933
That's when
all of the questioning
with Ranger Kemp started.
303
00:24:41,347 --> 00:24:43,349
My first impression of
Ranger Kemp
304
00:24:43,349 --> 00:24:46,252
was a little intimidated.
305
00:24:46,252 --> 00:24:49,556
He was a big man
with a gun and a badge.
306
00:24:49,556 --> 00:24:52,091
And he had a presence
about him
307
00:24:52,091 --> 00:24:53,993
that, yeah,
he was soft and easygoing,
308
00:24:53,993 --> 00:24:56,128
but it was also like...
309
00:24:56,563 --> 00:24:57,664
demanded respect.
310
00:26:31,390 --> 00:26:34,827
Shortly thereafter, Kemp
brings the first indictment
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00:26:34,827 --> 00:26:38,297
to a Smith County grand Jury
on Shelia Sones.
312
00:26:39,932 --> 00:26:41,067
And in short order,
313
00:26:41,067 --> 00:26:42,835
Shelia is arrested,
314
00:26:42,835 --> 00:26:44,671
Gabby's put into foster care
315
00:26:44,671 --> 00:26:46,939
and then,
not long after that,
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00:26:47,907 --> 00:26:49,075
Jimmy,
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00:26:49,075 --> 00:26:50,877
Booger Red,
318
00:26:50,877 --> 00:26:52,712
Jamie Pittman
319
00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:54,446
and Shauntel
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00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:55,782
are also arrested.
321
00:26:57,049 --> 00:27:00,052
And the another man,
Dennis Pittman.
322
00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:02,588
He wasn't related
to Jamie Pittman,
323
00:27:02,689 --> 00:27:04,724
but he was friends
with Shauntel and Jamie.
324
00:27:06,492 --> 00:27:09,061
This was huge news right away.
325
00:27:10,697 --> 00:27:13,599
Mineola was such
a big part of my childhood.
326
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:15,534
So I was assigned that case.
327
00:27:16,368 --> 00:27:17,870
It was a huge story.
328
00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:20,306
You know, as a reporter,
you try to remain impartial,
329
00:27:20,306 --> 00:27:21,808
but the personal side of me,
330
00:27:21,808 --> 00:27:23,843
I was really upset about it.
331
00:27:23,843 --> 00:27:25,211
It blew our minds.
332
00:27:25,211 --> 00:27:28,247
It was just insanity,
the things that we heard.
333
00:27:31,083 --> 00:27:33,619
So I was very thankful
that Smith County
334
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:34,954
actually stepped up
to the plate.
335
00:27:34,954 --> 00:27:36,756
They did something
that Wood County wouldn't do.
336
00:27:39,158 --> 00:27:41,527
The public was outraged.
337
00:27:41,527 --> 00:27:43,996
People in the community
thought these parents
338
00:27:43,996 --> 00:27:46,733
were the lowest-type people
on the earth.
339
00:27:48,567 --> 00:27:50,737
What they did
was unforgivable.
340
00:27:56,642 --> 00:27:59,211
We heard they were grooming
the underage kids.
341
00:27:59,211 --> 00:28:00,747
We were really, really shocked
342
00:28:00,747 --> 00:28:02,314
about what was happening
in that town.
343
00:28:02,314 --> 00:28:03,382
And they kept it
such a secret
344
00:28:04,751 --> 00:28:07,053
that no one in town
knew anything about it.
345
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,522
I first learned about it
in Iraq.
346
00:28:10,522 --> 00:28:12,959
It was published in
the Stars and Stripes there.
347
00:28:13,993 --> 00:28:16,763
And in bold,
"Mineola Swinger's Club"
348
00:28:16,763 --> 00:28:19,866
and described
a big criminal case
349
00:28:19,866 --> 00:28:21,367
about people
molesting children,
350
00:28:21,367 --> 00:28:24,971
having them perform
on a pole
351
00:28:24,971 --> 00:28:26,205
and perform sex acts.
352
00:28:37,784 --> 00:28:40,452
I had never been to Mineola
before I worked on this story.
353
00:28:40,452 --> 00:28:42,688
You feel like you are
going back in time.
354
00:28:44,190 --> 00:28:46,358
You see the two sides
of the tracks
355
00:28:46,358 --> 00:28:48,027
where you literally
cross the railroad tracks
356
00:28:48,027 --> 00:28:50,329
and you are on
the poor side of town.
357
00:28:52,431 --> 00:28:55,467
Trailer parks are everywhere.
They're communities.
358
00:28:55,467 --> 00:28:58,204
They're like little villages,
little hamlets
359
00:28:58,204 --> 00:28:59,405
on the outskirts of town.
360
00:29:00,706 --> 00:29:03,810
However, John and Margie
lived in a house
361
00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:06,946
on that little lake
just north of town.
362
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,481
From what I've seen,
363
00:29:09,481 --> 00:29:12,051
they were, at first,
welcomed with open arms.
364
00:29:12,051 --> 00:29:14,253
They were
conservative Christians.
365
00:29:14,253 --> 00:29:17,456
They were career foster
parents back in California.
366
00:29:17,456 --> 00:29:20,659
They were career foster
parents here in Texas.
367
00:29:20,659 --> 00:29:23,562
They had their hearts
in the right place.
368
00:29:23,562 --> 00:29:26,565
When I met Margie,
the first ten seconds,
369
00:29:26,565 --> 00:29:28,968
she comes across
as very personable.
370
00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:34,406
And somewhere around
the 15-minute mark,
371
00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:35,641
you begin to understand
372
00:29:35,641 --> 00:29:37,709
you're never gonna get
a word in edgewise.
373
00:29:38,610 --> 00:29:41,413
And then, uh,
at the 30-minute mark,
374
00:29:41,413 --> 00:29:43,449
you've heard
about all you wanna hear.
375
00:29:43,449 --> 00:29:46,352
That was kind of
my introduction to Margie.
376
00:29:49,655 --> 00:29:51,958
One day, my news director
really pushed me
377
00:29:51,958 --> 00:29:54,160
to go and talk
to Margie Cantrell.
378
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,494
And I thought there's no way
379
00:29:55,494 --> 00:29:57,363
that this woman is
actually going to talk.
380
00:30:00,366 --> 00:30:02,634
But we went out
to Lake Brenda.
381
00:30:06,405 --> 00:30:09,876
Lake Brenda is one of the
nicest areas in East Texas.
382
00:30:12,578 --> 00:30:15,014
And I went up to Margie's door
and knocked,
383
00:30:15,014 --> 00:30:16,315
and to my surprise,
384
00:30:16,315 --> 00:30:17,816
she opened the door
385
00:30:18,417 --> 00:30:20,186
and she welcomed us in.
386
00:30:20,186 --> 00:30:22,488
I remember their house
was so beautiful.
387
00:30:22,488 --> 00:30:23,622
I mean, it was huge.
388
00:30:23,622 --> 00:30:25,391
These children had lived
in a trailer
389
00:30:25,391 --> 00:30:27,359
and now they had
this beautiful house.
390
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,461
And it felt like it was just
391
00:30:29,461 --> 00:30:32,131
this perfect portrait
of a home.
392
00:30:32,131 --> 00:30:35,034
I sit down on the couch
and John was there,
393
00:30:35,034 --> 00:30:37,970
but he was just
quietly in the background.
394
00:30:37,970 --> 00:30:39,371
He just didn't say a lot.
395
00:30:39,371 --> 00:30:41,007
I did try to talk to him
a few times,
396
00:30:41,007 --> 00:30:42,641
but you just couldn't
get anything out of him.
397
00:30:42,641 --> 00:30:44,843
He was pretty much like
a wall in a lot of ways.
398
00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:49,848
Whereas Margie was
so engaging and personable.
399
00:30:50,917 --> 00:30:52,684
All of times,
in those kinds of situations,
400
00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:54,921
you do everything you can
to pull something out
401
00:30:54,921 --> 00:30:56,055
and gain trust
402
00:30:56,055 --> 00:30:57,856
and want somebody to
open up to you,
403
00:30:57,856 --> 00:31:00,026
but she was so open
404
00:31:00,026 --> 00:31:01,961
about everything
the children had been through
405
00:31:01,961 --> 00:31:03,996
and how terrible this was.
406
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:05,764
I became thankful
407
00:31:05,764 --> 00:31:07,799
that this woman was
helping these children.
408
00:31:13,205 --> 00:31:14,840
And leading up to the trial,
409
00:31:14,941 --> 00:31:17,176
I remember it feeling
almost like a Super Bowl
410
00:31:17,176 --> 00:31:19,611
because there was just
so much tension.
411
00:31:20,779 --> 00:31:21,948
The heartbeat of the town
412
00:31:21,948 --> 00:31:23,682
was that finally
these children
413
00:31:23,682 --> 00:31:24,984
were going to get justice,
414
00:31:24,984 --> 00:31:26,318
and finally
these defendants
415
00:31:26,318 --> 00:31:28,554
were gonna be
put away forever.
416
00:31:39,231 --> 00:31:40,632
The 36-year-old Pittman
417
00:31:40,632 --> 00:31:42,634
is accused of forcing
young children
418
00:31:42,634 --> 00:31:44,536
under the age of seven
419
00:31:44,536 --> 00:31:47,306
to have sex with each other
and adults.
420
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:50,142
Jack Skeen is the judge.
421
00:31:50,142 --> 00:31:53,879
You did not mess around
with crime in Smith County
422
00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:56,515
because Jack Skeen
would go after you.
423
00:31:58,017 --> 00:32:01,453
Matt Bingham is
the elected district attorney
of Smith County.
424
00:32:01,453 --> 00:32:05,024
Am I an aggressive prosecutor
of crimes against children?
425
00:32:05,024 --> 00:32:06,325
You better believe it.
426
00:32:06,325 --> 00:32:09,095
And he gave one of
his trusted guys, Joe Murphy,
427
00:32:09,095 --> 00:32:10,529
the lead on this case.
428
00:32:10,529 --> 00:32:11,897
Words cannot describe
429
00:32:11,998 --> 00:32:14,733
what these children
have gone through.
430
00:32:14,733 --> 00:32:16,435
Uh, words cannot describe
431
00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:19,705
the actions of
not only Jamie Pittman,
432
00:32:19,705 --> 00:32:22,374
but all the other people that
are involved in this case.
433
00:32:22,374 --> 00:32:24,410
I sat in the courtroom
every single day
434
00:32:24,410 --> 00:32:27,013
and the mood was very tense.
435
00:32:28,314 --> 00:32:29,248
Margie was in the courtroom.
436
00:32:29,248 --> 00:32:31,017
You know,
she was a big part of--
437
00:32:31,017 --> 00:32:33,485
I say the word "spectacle"
and I hate to even say that,
438
00:32:33,485 --> 00:32:35,021
but that's what it was
in a lot of ways.
439
00:32:35,021 --> 00:32:36,655
Exhibit number 20.
440
00:32:36,655 --> 00:32:38,424
What is this?
441
00:32:38,424 --> 00:32:39,825
During the trial,
442
00:32:39,825 --> 00:32:42,461
Ranger Kemp came in
and testified.
443
00:32:44,030 --> 00:32:45,464
And do all
these outcries match?
444
00:32:45,464 --> 00:32:46,432
Yes, they do.
445
00:32:46,432 --> 00:32:47,733
Not only do you have that,
446
00:32:47,733 --> 00:32:50,669
do you have the existence
of a swingers club?
447
00:32:50,669 --> 00:32:51,637
Yes, you do.
448
00:32:51,637 --> 00:32:53,839
He was entirely unflappable.
449
00:32:53,839 --> 00:32:56,808
He was very calm
and very cool.
450
00:32:58,544 --> 00:33:01,047
And they showed the
interviews with the children.
451
00:33:12,691 --> 00:33:16,062
The prosecution's case was
the testimony of the children.
452
00:33:16,595 --> 00:33:18,264
So they all testified.
453
00:33:23,102 --> 00:33:24,270
They would open
the doors
454
00:33:24,270 --> 00:33:25,704
and the kids would
just come out
455
00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:28,140
and they were just
so adorable.
456
00:33:30,776 --> 00:33:33,245
You just couldn't imagine
what they went through.
457
00:33:34,146 --> 00:33:36,415
The girl worked here.
458
00:33:36,415 --> 00:33:39,085
On the stand, she testified
of what it looked like,
459
00:33:39,085 --> 00:33:41,220
describing the flowers
on the wall,
460
00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:42,954
saying it's
what she would look at
461
00:33:42,954 --> 00:33:45,457
while being raped
night after night.
462
00:33:46,725 --> 00:33:50,962
They said, in return,
they got to eat dinner.
463
00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:55,267
During the first trial,
464
00:33:55,267 --> 00:33:57,203
I was maybe seven,
maybe eight.
465
00:33:57,203 --> 00:33:59,538
I was stressed out.
466
00:33:59,538 --> 00:34:01,006
I was full of anxiety.
467
00:34:04,876 --> 00:34:07,979
I'm looking around and I'm
seeing all of these people,
468
00:34:07,979 --> 00:34:10,716
the man in the big black robe,
469
00:34:10,716 --> 00:34:13,685
the news media was there,
there was cameras.
470
00:34:13,685 --> 00:34:16,021
It was just an
overwhelming experience.
471
00:34:17,556 --> 00:34:20,326
When I saw Jamie Pittman
sitting there,
472
00:34:20,326 --> 00:34:22,128
I remember he looked sad.
473
00:34:22,128 --> 00:34:25,731
And I remember testifying
and I...
474
00:34:26,998 --> 00:34:28,567
had no remorse.
475
00:34:35,507 --> 00:34:38,510
The trial of Jamie Pittman
only lasted three days.
476
00:34:39,578 --> 00:34:42,581
And the jury came to
its decision very quickly.
477
00:34:44,583 --> 00:34:46,385
When we went
into the courtroom
478
00:34:46,385 --> 00:34:48,354
to hear the verdicts,
479
00:34:49,221 --> 00:34:50,256
the kids were saying,
480
00:34:50,256 --> 00:34:53,825
"It just has to be,
it has to be, it has to be."
481
00:34:53,825 --> 00:34:57,263
They wanted this with all
their heart and soul.
482
00:35:00,566 --> 00:35:02,334
It took less than ten minutes
483
00:35:02,334 --> 00:35:06,838
for a Smith County jury
to find Jamie Pittman guilty.
484
00:35:06,838 --> 00:35:08,707
And the kids went, "Yes!"
485
00:35:11,310 --> 00:35:13,779
They felt very vindicated.
486
00:35:24,956 --> 00:35:26,758
On Monday,
Pittman's girlfriend
487
00:35:26,758 --> 00:35:30,028
will be the second defendant
to face a Smith County jury.
488
00:35:30,028 --> 00:35:32,531
29-year-old
Shauntel Loraine Mayo
489
00:35:32,531 --> 00:35:35,234
is charged with
child sexual abuse.
490
00:35:41,807 --> 00:35:43,842
Shauntel was
gonna be the big case,
491
00:35:43,842 --> 00:35:46,445
because this was the mother.
492
00:35:46,445 --> 00:35:48,480
People wanted to understand
how in the world
493
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,217
this woman could
have these precious children
494
00:35:51,217 --> 00:35:53,219
and do something like this.
495
00:35:55,521 --> 00:35:57,889
My name is
Ellen Gayle Burress.
496
00:35:57,889 --> 00:35:59,791
I have a Bachelor of Arts,
497
00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:01,227
a Master's of Science
498
00:36:01,227 --> 00:36:02,761
and a PhD.
499
00:36:02,761 --> 00:36:05,564
And until
I stopped practicing,
500
00:36:05,564 --> 00:36:07,733
I was a licensed
professional counselor
501
00:36:08,934 --> 00:36:10,402
and expert witness.
502
00:36:13,272 --> 00:36:15,441
Everything I saw
about those kids
503
00:36:15,441 --> 00:36:17,142
talked to me about damage,
504
00:36:17,609 --> 00:36:18,810
about fear,
505
00:36:18,810 --> 00:36:19,678
and a couple of 'em,
506
00:36:20,111 --> 00:36:21,647
there was real...
507
00:36:22,314 --> 00:36:23,582
shame.
508
00:36:23,582 --> 00:36:25,384
Were you able to determine
whether or not
509
00:36:25,384 --> 00:36:27,986
there was any type of grooming
that was involved
510
00:36:27,986 --> 00:36:29,755
with these children?
511
00:36:29,755 --> 00:36:32,924
Well, obviously, kindergarten
was the grooming spot,
512
00:36:32,924 --> 00:36:37,763
in terms of getting them ready
to do in front of others
513
00:36:37,763 --> 00:36:39,631
what they wanted them to do.
514
00:36:39,631 --> 00:36:41,267
They had to teach them
to dance.
515
00:36:41,267 --> 00:36:43,168
They had to teach them
to touch each other
516
00:36:43,269 --> 00:36:44,436
and masturbate
517
00:36:44,436 --> 00:36:46,505
and take off their clothes
518
00:36:46,505 --> 00:36:48,340
and act sexy,
519
00:36:48,340 --> 00:36:51,543
because 5-year-olds
don't act sexy.
520
00:36:53,645 --> 00:36:55,981
By the time that
it had gotten to my sister
521
00:36:55,981 --> 00:36:57,015
Shauntel's trial,
522
00:36:57,015 --> 00:36:59,818
I had already been questioned
a million times.
523
00:36:59,818 --> 00:37:02,654
I had already gone over
the testimony a million times.
524
00:37:02,654 --> 00:37:04,290
I was tired of it.
525
00:37:04,290 --> 00:37:06,191
I was-- I was ready to quit.
526
00:37:06,292 --> 00:37:07,926
I didn't wanna do it anymore.
527
00:37:07,926 --> 00:37:11,697
But, you know, I still kept
being hounded with
528
00:37:11,697 --> 00:37:13,532
"Well, you have to do this.
You have to do this.
529
00:37:13,532 --> 00:37:15,301
You have to get justice
for the others."
530
00:37:16,402 --> 00:37:17,569
When Gabby
took the stand,
531
00:37:17,569 --> 00:37:18,937
she admitted that, yes,
532
00:37:18,937 --> 00:37:22,073
that she had been to
the Mineola swingers club.
533
00:37:22,073 --> 00:37:24,343
And she said that she took
"silly pills" there,
534
00:37:24,343 --> 00:37:26,578
she went to kindergarten,
that she performed
535
00:37:26,578 --> 00:37:29,448
and she identified
her own sister, Shauntel,
536
00:37:29,448 --> 00:37:30,982
as being someone
that took her there.
537
00:37:34,453 --> 00:37:37,356
I remember
my sister sitting there
538
00:37:37,356 --> 00:37:39,190
by her lawyer
and she was just bawling.
539
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:40,225
She was just--
540
00:37:44,930 --> 00:37:46,432
She was just crying.
541
00:37:47,333 --> 00:37:49,167
And I still remember...
542
00:37:49,935 --> 00:37:51,337
not caring.
543
00:38:05,351 --> 00:38:06,952
Seeing my mom
in the courtroom,
544
00:38:06,952 --> 00:38:10,356
I'm not even sure
I recognized her.
545
00:39:06,812 --> 00:39:09,915
I ask you to find her guilty
of what she's guilty of,
546
00:39:09,915 --> 00:39:13,151
engaging in organized
criminal activity for profit
547
00:39:13,151 --> 00:39:15,454
with her own children.
548
00:39:15,454 --> 00:39:17,956
The jury deliberated
for two hours.
549
00:39:17,956 --> 00:39:19,324
We, the jury,
550
00:39:19,425 --> 00:39:21,493
find the defendant,
Shauntel Mayo,
551
00:39:21,493 --> 00:39:23,161
guilty of the offence.
552
00:39:23,161 --> 00:39:24,930
It was guilty right away.
553
00:39:46,518 --> 00:39:48,286
When the verdicts
were read out,
554
00:39:48,286 --> 00:39:50,989
we had absolutely
no emotion, you know.
555
00:39:50,989 --> 00:39:56,327
It wasn't as if they were
really a family to us anymore.
556
00:40:00,899 --> 00:40:03,001
When Shauntel Mayo
was found guilty,
557
00:40:03,001 --> 00:40:04,636
it was a relief
for a lot of people.
558
00:40:04,636 --> 00:40:07,005
I think a lot of people
were thankful
559
00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:08,840
and that these bad people
560
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,275
who did these
horrible things to kids
561
00:40:10,275 --> 00:40:11,810
were gonna be locked away.
562
00:40:14,412 --> 00:40:17,282
News from the
Mineola Swingers Club case.
563
00:40:17,282 --> 00:40:20,552
Jury selection for the trial
of Patrick "Booger Red" Kelly,
564
00:40:20,552 --> 00:40:22,988
a friend of Shauntel Mayo
and Jamie Pittman,
565
00:40:22,988 --> 00:40:25,056
is due to begin early
next week.
566
00:40:31,863 --> 00:40:34,165
Booger Red, Patrick Kelly,
567
00:40:34,165 --> 00:40:36,702
was the one who had
the trailer where, apparently,
568
00:40:36,702 --> 00:40:39,170
the sex kindergarten
had taken place.
569
00:41:12,838 --> 00:41:15,574
So what they said is they
would first go to kindergarten
570
00:41:15,574 --> 00:41:16,908
and get these dolls
571
00:41:16,908 --> 00:41:20,278
and learn how to touch
themselves in different ways.
572
00:41:20,278 --> 00:41:22,548
They would put on costumes
and doctor costumes
573
00:41:22,548 --> 00:41:23,682
and would go out and perform.
574
00:42:01,319 --> 00:42:03,755
The things that the kids had
said about Patrick Kelly
575
00:42:03,755 --> 00:42:05,090
were sensational
576
00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:07,626
and dominated the headlines
before the trial.
577
00:42:08,259 --> 00:42:09,961
But during jury selection,
578
00:42:09,961 --> 00:42:11,597
there was a massive bombshell.
579
00:42:13,231 --> 00:42:16,968
The Wood County Sheriffs
came in the front door
580
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:19,370
and barraged
on my husband John,
581
00:42:19,370 --> 00:42:20,806
grabbed him up,
582
00:42:20,806 --> 00:42:21,973
ran him out of the house.
583
00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:23,441
We're like,
"What is going on?
584
00:42:23,441 --> 00:42:25,811
What is going on?"
585
00:42:25,811 --> 00:42:26,878
John Cantrell,
586
00:42:26,878 --> 00:42:29,114
a man awarded custody of
three young siblings
587
00:42:29,114 --> 00:42:31,449
who allegedly performed
at the swingers club
588
00:42:31,449 --> 00:42:34,252
was arrested in Wood County.
589
00:42:34,252 --> 00:42:37,155
They were arresting him
for molesting his daughter
590
00:42:37,155 --> 00:42:39,958
20 years ago
back in California.
591
00:42:46,131 --> 00:42:49,868
How would you describe
John Cantrell's personality?
592
00:42:51,703 --> 00:42:54,706
There's a phrase.
"A wolf in sheep's clothing."
593
00:42:55,841 --> 00:42:59,277
He likes videos about
people being raped,
594
00:42:59,277 --> 00:43:00,145
and stuff like that.
595
00:43:01,279 --> 00:43:02,347
He likes little girls.
596
00:43:04,049 --> 00:43:07,252
He would make me
watch it with him.
597
00:43:07,252 --> 00:43:09,187
And when
I would close my eyes,
598
00:43:09,187 --> 00:43:10,521
"No, you need
to open your eyes.
599
00:43:10,521 --> 00:43:12,157
You need to see this."
600
00:43:12,157 --> 00:43:16,061
I would tell Margie
what had happened
601
00:43:16,061 --> 00:43:18,664
and she would say
I was a little slut.
602
00:43:18,664 --> 00:43:21,667
"It's all your fault.
It's all your fault."
603
00:43:21,667 --> 00:43:24,202
This is not true.
604
00:43:24,202 --> 00:43:26,672
It didn't happen.
605
00:43:26,672 --> 00:43:29,440
Margie is
a great manipulator.
606
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,444
She can make herself
and make you believe
607
00:43:33,444 --> 00:43:34,545
she's right.
608
00:43:36,447 --> 00:43:38,549
And you just get brainwashed.
609
00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:41,252
She's straight evil.
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