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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,133 --> 00:00:13,466 I've never been a director 2 00:00:13,466 --> 00:00:17,599 who wants to put a personal stamp on a project based on 3 00:00:17,866 --> 00:00:20,366 a look or an aesthetic 4 00:00:20,700 --> 00:00:22,466 uh I've always thought of myself 5 00:00:22,466 --> 00:00:23,599 um you know 6 00:00:23,666 --> 00:00:25,699 more like a um 7 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:28,800 I guess the way an actor understands a character 8 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,400 tries to inhabit that character 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,200 I wanna understand the character of a movie and uh 10 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,266 and sort of inhabit it as a director 11 00:00:36,266 --> 00:00:38,099 and try to fulfill 12 00:00:38,266 --> 00:00:41,966 the possibilities that I think are most appropriate 13 00:00:42,266 --> 00:00:43,433 now of course 14 00:00:44,333 --> 00:00:45,533 my personality 15 00:00:45,533 --> 00:00:47,166 my taste you know 16 00:00:47,166 --> 00:00:50,799 it's going to influence movies in similar ways and 17 00:00:50,933 --> 00:00:51,899 and you know I I 18 00:00:51,900 --> 00:00:55,666 I try not to work in opposition of that 19 00:00:55,866 --> 00:00:57,799 but I like to try to 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,566 to understand a movie and let it begin to talk to me 21 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:05,700 I like to I like to begin to understand what's 22 00:01:06,500 --> 00:01:09,166 visually possible um 23 00:01:09,166 --> 00:01:10,699 and what would what would 24 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:13,166 what would most um 25 00:01:13,566 --> 00:01:16,833 reflect I suppose the themes 26 00:01:16,933 --> 00:01:17,999 the story it all 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,200 it always keeps coming back to me 28 00:01:20,266 --> 00:01:22,499 to supporting those 29 00:01:22,500 --> 00:01:23,200 those ideas 30 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,400 what's it about 31 00:01:24,700 --> 00:01:26,233 what's it trying to convey 32 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:27,566 and you know 33 00:01:27,566 --> 00:01:28,999 and how is it supposed to 34 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,300 to transport the audience 35 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:31,766 how is it supposed to feel 36 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,400 and then begin to understand 37 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:37,700 what sort of visual style will enhance that 38 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,966 how will it help us understand the characters 39 00:01:39,966 --> 00:01:40,699 how will it 40 00:01:40,700 --> 00:01:43,400 how will it help engage uh 41 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:44,366 the audience 42 00:01:44,466 --> 00:01:47,366 um there's a kind of ironic thing that happens that 43 00:01:47,566 --> 00:01:50,066 you know suddenly um you 44 00:01:50,066 --> 00:01:50,899 you you know 45 00:01:50,900 --> 00:01:51,333 you're gonna 46 00:01:51,333 --> 00:01:53,066 you're gonna hear a lot more 47 00:01:53,366 --> 00:01:54,666 um you know 48 00:01:54,666 --> 00:01:55,733 about that subject 49 00:01:55,733 --> 00:01:58,299 so now I'm thinking about becoming a doctor 50 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:01,333 and suddenly there's a great documentary about 51 00:02:01,333 --> 00:02:03,366 you know what it means to be a 52 00:02:03,533 --> 00:02:05,999 you know an er doctor and oh 53 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:07,600 look at this I I I'm 54 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,500 I'm really noticing that those people over at Starbucks 55 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:11,500 you know they've got the 56 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:12,400 their nurses 57 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,766 and I think I see a doctor over there 58 00:02:13,766 --> 00:02:14,399 and they're talking 59 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:15,766 maybe I'll go out and discuss you know 60 00:02:15,766 --> 00:02:18,033 just talk to him about what med school they went to 61 00:02:18,133 --> 00:02:19,199 it's all boy 62 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,266 this is amazing 63 00:02:20,266 --> 00:02:21,666 it's suddenly 64 00:02:21,666 --> 00:02:23,166 you know the whole 65 00:02:23,300 --> 00:02:23,966 everywhere I look 66 00:02:23,966 --> 00:02:25,899 it's all about medicine and doctors 67 00:02:25,900 --> 00:02:27,433 well it's just that 68 00:02:28,266 --> 00:02:30,266 your antenna is tuned 69 00:02:30,300 --> 00:02:30,766 you know in my 70 00:02:30,766 --> 00:02:33,199 my my sense of this is that it's always that 71 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,000 that information has always been there 72 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,400 but now you focused your train of thought 73 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,966 I think as a director 74 00:02:40,766 --> 00:02:43,199 you have the opportunity to do the same thing 75 00:02:43,466 --> 00:02:45,799 to begin to focus on your subject 76 00:02:46,066 --> 00:02:48,399 and you'll be amazed 77 00:02:48,666 --> 00:02:52,766 how many ideas can start flooding your way 78 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,700 and a lot of that comes to you as visual 79 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,300 uh language 80 00:02:57,466 --> 00:03:00,199 and it's it's great to start taking notes 81 00:03:00,266 --> 00:03:01,699 you see a photograph 82 00:03:01,733 --> 00:03:02,499 pull it out 83 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:03,566 well I don't 84 00:03:03,566 --> 00:03:04,799 if if you can 85 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,366 if you already own the magazine 86 00:03:06,366 --> 00:03:07,966 pull it out uh 87 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,266 uh and collect it 88 00:03:10,666 --> 00:03:12,066 give yourself something to talk about 89 00:03:12,066 --> 00:03:12,733 to think about 90 00:03:12,733 --> 00:03:13,599 to dream about 91 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,866 and just begin the 92 00:03:14,866 --> 00:03:18,299 process of understanding what that movie could be 93 00:03:18,300 --> 00:03:20,000 at least that's how I like to work 94 00:03:20,066 --> 00:03:21,599 um and you know I 95 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,900 I I never have any interest in having a 96 00:03:25,066 --> 00:03:27,499 you know a particular kind of shot 97 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:28,300 that I always do 98 00:03:28,300 --> 00:03:29,100 to start the movie 99 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:29,866 or in the movie 100 00:03:29,866 --> 00:03:30,699 or you know 101 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:32,033 it's no signature 102 00:03:32,133 --> 00:03:34,066 no signatures like that for 103 00:03:34,066 --> 00:03:35,899 for me it's about 104 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:38,400 you know a story 105 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,133 finding its proper voice 106 00:03:40,133 --> 00:03:41,533 it's it's you know 107 00:03:41,533 --> 00:03:44,466 the it's its existence within the 108 00:03:44,666 --> 00:03:46,233 you know the medium of cinema 109 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:58,666 a lot of what we perceive in life has to do with light 110 00:03:59,166 --> 00:04:04,166 um bright uh shafts um 111 00:04:04,733 --> 00:04:07,699 start backlight um 112 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:09,733 so that things are a little bit muddled 113 00:04:09,733 --> 00:04:10,999 uh distance 114 00:04:11,366 --> 00:04:13,599 um is is is is is 115 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,500 is often about you know 116 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:20,966 the way the optics work is you start to lose detail and 117 00:04:20,966 --> 00:04:22,066 you know you're not 118 00:04:22,133 --> 00:04:26,233 the light isn't registering with you on a distant 119 00:04:26,966 --> 00:04:28,566 figure the way it does a 120 00:04:29,566 --> 00:04:32,266 you know a figure that's newer to you 121 00:04:32,333 --> 00:04:34,866 and so I really come to 122 00:04:34,866 --> 00:04:38,933 to understand the power of lighting 123 00:04:38,933 --> 00:04:43,033 I think I grew a lot working with Roger Deakins 124 00:04:43,300 --> 00:04:45,433 uh on Beautiful Mind 125 00:04:45,466 --> 00:04:48,999 he's a brilliant lighting uh DP 126 00:04:49,500 --> 00:04:51,666 he he doesn't even think he is or know he is 127 00:04:51,666 --> 00:04:52,699 and he suffers over it 128 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:55,500 he's a very meticulous man um 129 00:04:56,066 --> 00:04:58,899 and his lighting isn't stylish 130 00:04:59,666 --> 00:05:03,266 but it's so psychological 131 00:05:03,900 --> 00:05:08,033 and so much about evoking a feeling 132 00:05:08,100 --> 00:05:12,166 and he really understands how to make a light 133 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:13,966 a character 134 00:05:13,966 --> 00:05:16,666 in a scene in a way that I didn't really 135 00:05:16,666 --> 00:05:18,933 prior uh to 136 00:05:18,933 --> 00:05:19,999 to working with him 137 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,066 and I really enjoyed that collaboration 138 00:05:22,666 --> 00:05:24,999 a lot of the um 139 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,166 the warmth of the opening 140 00:05:28,166 --> 00:05:31,366 that's kind of enveloping and welcoming 141 00:05:31,366 --> 00:05:34,199 and suddenly unreal 142 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,500 it's a little too good to be true 143 00:05:36,866 --> 00:05:39,366 and it's the beginning of John Nash's journey 144 00:05:39,366 --> 00:05:41,966 when we don't know that he's mentally ill 145 00:05:41,966 --> 00:05:43,966 we don't know that he's already delusional 146 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,533 um but you know 147 00:05:45,533 --> 00:05:50,299 he's full of hope and angst and drive and ambition and 148 00:05:50,300 --> 00:05:53,066 um so even when it's not his point of view 149 00:05:53,066 --> 00:05:54,699 we created this palette 150 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,900 we kept calling it the life magazine look 151 00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:59,200 it was kind of not only nostalgic 152 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,200 but it was also um 153 00:06:02,466 --> 00:06:03,066 it was also 154 00:06:03,066 --> 00:06:04,099 in a naturalistic way 155 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:07,333 very beautiful and very um 156 00:06:07,333 --> 00:06:10,266 sort of inviting in a way um 157 00:06:10,266 --> 00:06:12,366 and that was the world that John wanted to be a part of 158 00:06:12,366 --> 00:06:13,599 he wanted to be in it 159 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,066 and he imagined that he could be um 160 00:06:16,066 --> 00:06:17,199 and that was 161 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,200 you know world of discovery and academia and genius 162 00:06:21,733 --> 00:06:27,999 um later shifting to the kind of the darkness 163 00:06:28,133 --> 00:06:32,466 the the the bright light and the dark shadows 164 00:06:32,533 --> 00:06:35,966 of the Cold War noir section 165 00:06:35,966 --> 00:06:36,366 now that was 166 00:06:36,366 --> 00:06:37,166 that was my idea 167 00:06:37,166 --> 00:06:39,266 I knew I wanted to 168 00:06:39,266 --> 00:06:42,466 to move into something that was a little bit artificial 169 00:06:42,700 --> 00:06:44,066 and spoke to 170 00:06:45,266 --> 00:06:45,966 you know a sort of 171 00:06:45,966 --> 00:06:47,466 a reference of 172 00:06:47,466 --> 00:06:49,799 of what a mystery looks like 173 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:51,900 what a Cold War thriller looks like 174 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:56,400 but the way Roger Deakins executed it was not 175 00:06:56,666 --> 00:06:57,733 you know over the top 176 00:06:57,733 --> 00:06:58,666 tongue and cheek 177 00:06:58,666 --> 00:06:59,833 it was still 178 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,666 um it was subtle and 179 00:07:02,666 --> 00:07:04,266 and yet you know 180 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:09,400 really brought a lot of intensity to that section 181 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:10,133 in those scenes 182 00:07:10,133 --> 00:07:11,566 in a great way 183 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:22,266 Don Peterman was also the first cinematographer 184 00:07:22,266 --> 00:07:25,799 who taught me to experiment with 185 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,833 um mixing um 186 00:07:29,466 --> 00:07:31,666 you know shooting modality so that you'd 187 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,500 you'd use in the same scene big 188 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:39,566 wide lenses like a 14 189 00:07:39,966 --> 00:07:40,899 see the whole room 190 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:43,300 put the camera high or low on the ground 191 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:45,766 almost like a Citizen Kane sort of shot 192 00:07:45,766 --> 00:07:47,533 even though splash was a comedy 193 00:07:47,533 --> 00:07:49,099 you know make it visual 194 00:07:49,133 --> 00:07:53,199 um don't don't shoot it like a straightforward you know 195 00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:55,466 sort of you know 196 00:07:55,466 --> 00:07:58,366 everything done with a 50 millimeter lens kind of a 197 00:07:58,366 --> 00:08:00,199 kind of a you know 198 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,166 storytelling 199 00:08:01,166 --> 00:08:03,233 and then crash in with long lenses 200 00:08:03,533 --> 00:08:04,899 so there's no reason to sort of say 201 00:08:04,900 --> 00:08:06,500 this is a wide lens scene 202 00:08:06,766 --> 00:08:09,266 and or this is a long lens scene 203 00:08:09,266 --> 00:08:11,166 telephoto lenses do another thing 204 00:08:11,166 --> 00:08:12,233 you know they draw 205 00:08:12,366 --> 00:08:15,466 they can press images and um 206 00:08:15,466 --> 00:08:16,766 they're very beautiful 207 00:08:16,766 --> 00:08:19,299 uh in lighting situations great for 208 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:21,366 for romances and things like that 209 00:08:21,366 --> 00:08:22,499 uh they soften 210 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,600 um they soften things um 211 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,200 and very narrow depth the field 212 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,200 they accomplish a lot 213 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,100 they create intimacy sometimes 214 00:08:31,366 --> 00:08:32,799 you know and I found that 215 00:08:33,066 --> 00:08:36,166 that idea of being able to go from super wide 216 00:08:36,166 --> 00:08:37,766 into these long lenses 217 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,466 that wasn't jarring 218 00:08:39,466 --> 00:08:40,333 wasn't jarring at all 219 00:08:40,333 --> 00:08:42,166 if it worked aesthetically 220 00:08:43,333 --> 00:08:45,499 which you could sort of see in the set 221 00:08:46,166 --> 00:08:48,699 looking through viewfinders and things like that 222 00:08:48,733 --> 00:08:49,966 and you could determine it 223 00:08:49,966 --> 00:08:51,499 then it would work 224 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:55,000 and so that was the first movie where I became 225 00:08:55,266 --> 00:08:56,966 you know a little freer about that 226 00:08:56,966 --> 00:09:00,933 I've now come to really look for opportunities 227 00:09:00,933 --> 00:09:04,699 where I can shoot a scene with wides 228 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:05,566 long lenses 229 00:09:05,566 --> 00:09:07,266 and crash in handheld 230 00:09:07,266 --> 00:09:08,566 all in the same scene 231 00:09:08,666 --> 00:09:10,866 did a lot of that in Frost Nixon 232 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,766 did quite a bit of that in rush and 233 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:16,766 and I find it 234 00:09:16,766 --> 00:09:19,599 there's something about it that's a little energizing 235 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,400 because the wide lenses 236 00:09:22,566 --> 00:09:25,099 give you an interesting graphic sense 237 00:09:25,100 --> 00:09:27,200 so it's not just that you see a lot 238 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,000 you see it in a particular way 239 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,666 that is kind of intriguing 240 00:09:32,133 --> 00:09:34,233 often if the composition is strong 241 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:37,166 and then crash in with a handheld 242 00:09:37,166 --> 00:09:37,799 and suddenly 243 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,533 it's almost like you 244 00:09:39,533 --> 00:09:40,766 as an audience member 245 00:09:40,766 --> 00:09:43,499 you know suddenly throwing yourself into the scene 246 00:09:43,566 --> 00:09:44,499 and you're into the 247 00:09:44,500 --> 00:09:46,433 into the world of those characters 248 00:09:47,100 --> 00:09:49,366 and you know 249 00:09:49,666 --> 00:09:53,399 you begin to learn the 250 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,466 the grammar of photography 251 00:09:56,733 --> 00:09:59,366 and what it can mean and what it says 252 00:09:59,366 --> 00:10:01,433 and it becomes almost second nature 253 00:10:01,500 --> 00:10:03,866 cinematographers have taught me that 254 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:13,100 I've done a number of projects with Salvador Dotino 255 00:10:13,100 --> 00:10:17,666 he's um he's so um diverse 256 00:10:17,766 --> 00:10:19,699 not only do I like him very much uh 257 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:20,566 as a friend 258 00:10:20,566 --> 00:10:22,899 not only is he an incredibly hard worker 259 00:10:22,933 --> 00:10:26,199 but he also has tremendous range and great taste 260 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,133 um and um with 261 00:10:29,133 --> 00:10:31,699 with with Sal 262 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,833 I began to appreciate the power of of 263 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,866 of strong blacks 264 00:10:39,266 --> 00:10:44,166 darkness with more focused light you know 265 00:10:44,166 --> 00:10:46,766 so it's not so much about lighting whole figures 266 00:10:46,766 --> 00:10:49,733 it's about lighting the face in a particular way 267 00:10:49,733 --> 00:10:51,499 in a naturalistic way 268 00:10:51,533 --> 00:10:53,899 but rooms and spaces 269 00:10:54,100 --> 00:10:56,900 not feeling like they're broadly lit 270 00:10:57,266 --> 00:10:59,466 um and it gives um 271 00:10:59,566 --> 00:11:03,566 a kind of an intimacy and a focus on the characters 272 00:11:03,566 --> 00:11:07,466 and um Sal is very soulful 273 00:11:07,666 --> 00:11:09,633 um very emotional 274 00:11:09,700 --> 00:11:12,300 and very connected to what the characters are doing 275 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:15,766 so even though Salvatore is a great visualist he is is 276 00:11:15,766 --> 00:11:21,066 is never trying to create a showy image or a cool image 277 00:11:21,066 --> 00:11:24,099 he what he really wants to do is understand 278 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:24,733 you know what 279 00:11:24,733 --> 00:11:27,066 what the scenes about what the characters going through 280 00:11:27,066 --> 00:11:27,899 with santotino 281 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:32,233 I began to understand more about mixing the medium 282 00:11:32,300 --> 00:11:36,433 more about working with various lenses 283 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,666 not just lens sizes 284 00:11:38,766 --> 00:11:39,999 but you know 285 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,633 from different generations 286 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:44,666 and very interesting 287 00:11:44,666 --> 00:11:45,999 on a subtle level 288 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:51,600 to understand the way different 289 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,366 different lenses can sort of communicate to you 290 00:11:54,366 --> 00:11:55,766 and it's subliminal 291 00:11:56,066 --> 00:11:57,366 but as an audience member 292 00:11:57,366 --> 00:11:59,799 because we're all sort of trained to watch 293 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:01,100 um a screen 294 00:12:01,100 --> 00:12:02,700 even if it's your iPhone 295 00:12:02,733 --> 00:12:03,766 it's you know 296 00:12:03,766 --> 00:12:08,166 there's a certain um um 297 00:12:08,166 --> 00:12:10,499 certain textures just give you certain feelings 298 00:12:16,266 --> 00:12:20,399 another little trick that I've come to use 299 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:21,566 and sometimes I just 300 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,366 you know I use my phone 301 00:12:23,566 --> 00:12:25,999 but I used to use my 302 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,000 you know just home movie camera 303 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:29,766 video camera 304 00:12:29,766 --> 00:12:32,633 Super 8 even it is to 305 00:12:32,866 --> 00:12:34,566 even if you're not the cinematographer 306 00:12:34,566 --> 00:12:37,366 you're not going to shoot it is to 307 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:39,733 while the actors are rehearsing 308 00:12:39,733 --> 00:12:40,933 is to you know 309 00:12:40,933 --> 00:12:43,533 begin to experiment with some little camera moves 310 00:12:43,533 --> 00:12:45,766 begin to just play and 311 00:12:45,766 --> 00:12:48,899 and it doesn't cost anything and it's 312 00:12:49,500 --> 00:12:51,766 you begin to sort of see that 313 00:12:51,766 --> 00:12:52,966 you know a particular 314 00:12:53,066 --> 00:12:54,933 particular feel just 315 00:12:54,933 --> 00:12:56,266 it just does something 316 00:12:56,933 --> 00:12:58,766 the other thing that 317 00:12:59,966 --> 00:13:01,966 really exciting right now 318 00:13:01,966 --> 00:13:05,233 is what technology is giving us 319 00:13:05,466 --> 00:13:08,133 um and it's there's a 320 00:13:08,133 --> 00:13:12,199 there's a new grammar that's just evolving constantly 321 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:18,066 and um a lot of it exists on YouTube and um 322 00:13:18,166 --> 00:13:20,099 I got to give credit where credits do 323 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,000 I was talking to David Fincher 324 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,900 who's somebody that I just know we're not 325 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:25,166 we're not great pals 326 00:13:25,166 --> 00:13:26,966 but we see each other here and there 327 00:13:27,133 --> 00:13:29,166 and I was talking to him about 328 00:13:29,466 --> 00:13:30,666 um something 329 00:13:30,666 --> 00:13:31,866 asking a question 330 00:13:31,866 --> 00:13:32,766 and he said 331 00:13:33,066 --> 00:13:34,399 look it up on YouTube 332 00:13:35,666 --> 00:13:36,999 and so what do you mean 333 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:37,666 he said well 334 00:13:37,666 --> 00:13:39,899 just in any word 335 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:42,266 any any subject 336 00:13:42,266 --> 00:13:44,299 any question you might have as it relates to your film 337 00:13:44,300 --> 00:13:45,466 just type it in 338 00:13:45,466 --> 00:13:48,533 because out there in the world there are 339 00:13:48,533 --> 00:13:50,699 there are people with really interesting 340 00:13:50,866 --> 00:13:54,533 um visual sensibilities unlike yours 341 00:13:54,533 --> 00:13:56,066 and they have more time 342 00:13:56,066 --> 00:13:56,733 they're hobbies 343 00:13:56,733 --> 00:13:57,833 they're playing 344 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,900 and through that freedom they're 345 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:02,200 they're expressing a lot of 346 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,266 a lot of interesting ideas in really original ways well 347 00:14:09,766 --> 00:14:11,699 I didn't know much about car engines 348 00:14:11,966 --> 00:14:13,299 and I was working on 349 00:14:13,566 --> 00:14:15,166 uh rush and I 350 00:14:15,166 --> 00:14:16,366 I wanted the 351 00:14:16,366 --> 00:14:18,766 the engine to somehow be a kind of a character 352 00:14:18,766 --> 00:14:20,333 and I didn't really know what that meant 353 00:14:20,333 --> 00:14:21,633 or what it looked like 354 00:14:21,733 --> 00:14:25,399 and I typed in Formula 1 engines 355 00:14:25,900 --> 00:14:29,066 I started to see some macro photography of engines 356 00:14:29,066 --> 00:14:30,533 and ultra slow motion 357 00:14:30,533 --> 00:14:33,766 and then I finally saw this one shot of you know 358 00:14:33,766 --> 00:14:37,966 of a piston slamming down and sort of exploding and 359 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,233 and I thought oh my gosh 360 00:14:40,933 --> 00:14:42,266 that's fantastic 361 00:14:42,266 --> 00:14:43,966 there's a key turning point 362 00:14:43,966 --> 00:14:47,099 where James Hunt is beginning to really get his mojo 363 00:14:47,266 --> 00:14:48,899 and he's literally always kind of think 364 00:14:48,900 --> 00:14:50,833 well now he's kind of on fire 365 00:14:50,866 --> 00:14:52,733 he's hitting on all cylinders 366 00:14:52,733 --> 00:14:56,066 look at all of these cliches that are all exist 367 00:14:56,366 --> 00:14:59,399 in this image that I just saw on YouTube 368 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,400 so I borrow David Fincher's advice 369 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,366 I'm passing it along to anybody 370 00:15:03,366 --> 00:15:04,866 uh who's interested 371 00:15:04,866 --> 00:15:08,166 it is another great research tool 372 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:13,933 uh and and it is a reminder that there 373 00:15:13,933 --> 00:15:15,899 there is a new kind of a grammar 374 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,666 it doesn't mean that the old 375 00:15:18,666 --> 00:15:21,999 classic ideas don't have tremendous power 376 00:15:22,333 --> 00:15:24,366 but smaller cameras 377 00:15:24,500 --> 00:15:25,933 less planned looking 378 00:15:25,933 --> 00:15:28,566 more spontaneous kind of imagery 379 00:15:28,866 --> 00:15:30,733 different sort of cutting patterns 380 00:15:30,733 --> 00:15:33,666 these things are all there to be seen and 381 00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:34,699 and understood 382 00:15:34,700 --> 00:15:35,733 and you know 383 00:15:35,733 --> 00:15:39,099 evaluated as it relates to a project that you are 384 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:41,133 planning to make in a very organized 385 00:15:41,133 --> 00:15:42,166 planned way 386 00:15:48,166 --> 00:15:51,099 I've worked twice with Anthony Dodmantle 387 00:15:51,733 --> 00:15:53,866 Rush and in the heart of the sea 388 00:15:53,866 --> 00:15:56,166 two very very different kinds of movies 389 00:15:56,300 --> 00:16:03,600 but there is something so spontaneous and 390 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,100 and um and and um 391 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,766 and and kind of chaotic 392 00:16:09,566 --> 00:16:12,466 he got he did Slumdog Millionaire and 28 Days Later 393 00:16:12,466 --> 00:16:14,866 among other great movies and 394 00:16:15,666 --> 00:16:16,966 and he's he's 395 00:16:16,966 --> 00:16:18,999 he comes out of documentaries 396 00:16:19,366 --> 00:16:21,766 and he's really the first cinematographer I worked with 397 00:16:21,766 --> 00:16:22,799 who was first and foremost 398 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,400 initially a documentary director and 399 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:27,900 and cinematographer 400 00:16:27,933 --> 00:16:30,333 and very exciting uh 401 00:16:30,333 --> 00:16:31,666 to work with Anthony 402 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:33,966 I remember having a great conversation with Anthony 403 00:16:33,966 --> 00:16:35,266 who I didn't know well 404 00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:36,499 but I was I was um 405 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:37,933 interested in him shooting rush 406 00:16:37,933 --> 00:16:40,699 and I'd been following his career for a while 407 00:16:40,966 --> 00:16:43,499 and he talked about 408 00:16:44,933 --> 00:16:47,199 he talked about the difference between 409 00:16:47,566 --> 00:16:51,366 lighting conditions in the Formula 1 circuit 410 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:56,400 that is everything from the hot sun of South Africa to 411 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,133 you know the fog and the dampness of 412 00:17:00,133 --> 00:17:01,799 of racing in 413 00:17:01,866 --> 00:17:05,233 you know in London or northern Europe 414 00:17:05,366 --> 00:17:08,033 he talked a lot about the cars 415 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,700 and the sexuality of that time and um 416 00:17:12,700 --> 00:17:14,566 and and the sort of 417 00:17:14,566 --> 00:17:18,866 the body language of those racers and um 418 00:17:18,866 --> 00:17:23,433 and and that sort of sexual energy of Formula 1 419 00:17:23,533 --> 00:17:26,466 and I was thinking along those lines 420 00:17:26,733 --> 00:17:29,299 but I didn't know how to articulate it 421 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:31,766 and so that became very exciting to me 422 00:17:31,766 --> 00:17:34,099 and then I said 423 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:36,100 I know you've done a lot of documentaries 424 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:40,033 um I uh I keep feeling 425 00:17:41,166 --> 00:17:43,699 when I look at footage from the era 426 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,266 that I'd like this to not necessarily be 427 00:17:46,266 --> 00:17:47,133 like a documentary 428 00:17:47,133 --> 00:17:48,999 about Formula 1 racing 429 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,700 but more like a music documentary 430 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:53,500 more like a gimme shelter 431 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:54,200 so you know 432 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,100 like a great music documentary from the 60s 433 00:17:57,466 --> 00:18:00,166 yes sexy but um 434 00:18:00,266 --> 00:18:00,766 but you know 435 00:18:00,766 --> 00:18:02,599 a little bit unplanned 436 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,366 spontaneous uh 437 00:18:04,366 --> 00:18:05,566 and he got very 438 00:18:05,566 --> 00:18:07,799 very excited about that and it 439 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,766 it's the first movie that I really approached in 440 00:18:10,766 --> 00:18:12,966 in that way uh 441 00:18:12,966 --> 00:18:14,266 and we had to work very 442 00:18:14,266 --> 00:18:16,366 very quickly and that 443 00:18:16,366 --> 00:18:17,299 that sort of 444 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:19,266 um style of 445 00:18:19,266 --> 00:18:21,566 of working is actually very efficient 446 00:18:22,166 --> 00:18:25,433 and it really exploits the moment 447 00:18:25,700 --> 00:18:27,100 Anthony documental 448 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:30,233 coming out of documentaries and low budget film making 449 00:18:30,966 --> 00:18:34,266 he's brilliant at looking at the sky 450 00:18:34,666 --> 00:18:35,666 looking at the set 451 00:18:35,666 --> 00:18:37,099 looking at the actors 452 00:18:37,133 --> 00:18:38,999 understanding what it is you 453 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,166 as the director 454 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:41,966 is trying to accomplish 455 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,466 and saying simply 456 00:18:44,466 --> 00:18:46,433 if you could move them over here 457 00:18:46,766 --> 00:18:49,666 you know I can shoot this in five minutes from now 458 00:18:49,666 --> 00:18:51,133 we don't have to light at all 459 00:18:51,133 --> 00:18:52,499 and it's gonna be beautiful 460 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:53,266 but you have to 461 00:18:53,266 --> 00:18:55,799 you have to recalibrate your thinking a little bit 462 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,166 can you make it work over here 463 00:18:57,166 --> 00:18:57,799 cause then it 464 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:58,300 you know if we do 465 00:18:58,300 --> 00:18:59,166 it'll be great 466 00:18:59,166 --> 00:19:02,499 and I I really Learned to sort of go with that 467 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:03,866 because it was 468 00:19:03,866 --> 00:19:05,866 it allowed us to work at a faster pace 469 00:19:05,866 --> 00:19:08,099 and still get a great look and I 470 00:19:08,100 --> 00:19:10,566 I realized that 471 00:19:10,933 --> 00:19:11,766 European DPS 472 00:19:11,766 --> 00:19:12,766 in particular 473 00:19:13,766 --> 00:19:14,266 you know they 474 00:19:14,266 --> 00:19:15,933 they never really have the 475 00:19:15,933 --> 00:19:20,466 the money or the tools to try to control the light 476 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,066 they have to work with it 477 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:25,433 and there's something very interesting and fluid 478 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,400 and creative about that 479 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:28,300 and I found it 480 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:29,766 um very stimulating 481 00:19:29,766 --> 00:19:30,599 and I hope that's something 482 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,566 that I continue to carry with me throughout my career 32947

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