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(dramatic music)
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(singer vocalizing)
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(gate clattering)
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- When I first signed
with an agent, they said,
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"Oh, yeah, you're gonna
have to get naked,
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and everybody knows that
winning the Oscar represents
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that you're not gonna
get naked anymore."
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(crew chattering indistinctly)
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- You're out there
while the men are
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on the sides wearing parkas.
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You're just standing
there with no shirt on.
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Everybody's standing,
staring at you.
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- A lot of the nudity
that was asked of me
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was not in the contract.
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I thought, at the time, "This
is what paying your dues is."
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- I was afraid if I said no
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that it would make
me too vulnerable.
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For some reason,
sayin no
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would make me more
vulnerable than being naked.
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- Did I have to be topless?
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Probably not.
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- Already as an
artist, as an actor,
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my body no longer
belongs to me.
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You are giving over your
likeness to a character,
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and then that character
becomes something
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that belongs to the
world, and that's crazy.
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- This idea of, "Oh,
I'm less of a true actor
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if I do nudity," as if
it's this negative thing,
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but who decided that?
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- [Director] Zoom
in if you can.
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- I wanted to be naked so
there's a sense of normalcy
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about what our
bodies represent,
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not just for trans
people but period.
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(crate thudding)
(metal clinking)
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- [Crew] Yeah, can we just...
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- All these movies
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that I watched growing
up chipped away
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at my sense of who I was,
how to know who I was,
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how to know what I wanted.
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- [Director] Okay,
marks, everyone.
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- [Joey] How do
we find our desire
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when we're so used
to being looked at?
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- [Director] Interior bedroom
night, this is a closed set,
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so if you're not in this
scene or working this scene,
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please exit the stage.
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- What we see over and over
again is women have to fight
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for ownership of
their own body.
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- [Crew] Okay, here we go.
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- Quiet please.
- Quiet.
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- [Crew] Roll sound.
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- [Crew] Camera speeds.
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- [Crew] Scene 20,
take five, marker.
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- [Crew] 'Kay, robe's off.
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- [Crew] Action.
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(projector clattering)
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(singer vocalizing)
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- Everybody learns
how to behave
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and sex and other
things from the movies,
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our notions of ourselves,
our notions of beauty,
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our notions of romance,
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what sex is allowed to be, and
who it's allowed to be with.
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- How to kiss, how
to have sex,
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how to be tender,
how to be violent.
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I mean, there are so many
things we learn from movies,
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particularly when
we're younger.
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(projector clattering)
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- It's hard to talk about sex,
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but here we have all of
these examples of movies,
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and television, and
now the Internet
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to show us what we
are thinking
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about our relation
to sex through media.
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- Sex education.
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(students laughing)
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- Don't have sex 'cause you
will get pregnant and die.
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- That's it then
for the penis.
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Let's move on
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to the, the --
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female privates.
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- We are sex ed,
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the TV industry
and the film industry.
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We are sex ed.
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- When I didn't think
I was gonna make it
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as a filmmaker, as a director,
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I really wanted to do
sex education curriculums
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in high schools 'cause I
just find so many things,
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like, so shocking
about what women
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and girls, like, aren't
ever told about sex.
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- [Joey] Which is probably
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why I'm really
fascinated as a director
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(door slamming)
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with what happens
behind closed doors.
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(film rustling)
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- I was raised so
conservative and so Christian
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that I remember watching
"Ace Ventura" (laughs),
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and it was the first
time I realized
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that sex wasn't just the
penis going into the vagina --
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(bed clanging)
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...because the bed was shaking
back and forth, realizing
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that there was, like, an
actual movement that happened.
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- For me, the sex scene that
sticks out is "Love Jones."
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There was, like, one moment
within the scene where
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Larenz actually
kissed her nipple,
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and I was like,
"Whoa."
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Like, "They're allowed
to put this in movies?"
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Like, "This is crazy.
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Oh, this is what
sex looks like.
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This is how I'm supposed
to look as a woman."
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- [Stacy] When I was a
teenager I remember watching
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"Fast Times
at Ridgemont High,"
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and there was Phoebe Cates,
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- Hi, Brent.
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- who was the object of
desire,
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and so wanted,
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and so unattainable, and
I remember thinking, like,
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"I really wanna be her."
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- I desperately wanted
to be the object.
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(singer vocalizing)
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(energetic music)
(projector clattering)
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- There's a long tradition in
American movies of showgirls,
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of literally showing girls,
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identical-looking women
opening their legs in unison
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going back to the
earliest musicals.
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(energetic music continues)
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- The idealized and
commodified --
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sexuality of women,
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it's as old an
invention as film.
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(pensive music)
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- Eadweard Muybridge
was a photographer
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who would give lectures,
and he would show
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very, very short
sequences of motion.
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(slides clicking)
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When he got to the women,
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he fundamentally didn't know
what purposeful activity
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to give them to do,
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and so he had them flirt fans,
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or walk up some stairs,
or walk down some stairs.
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One woman is gazing
longingly at another woman.
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So, the men act,
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and the women are always
aware of being looked at.
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(slides clicking)
(pensive music continues)
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(dramatic music)
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(keys clattering)
- [Writer] Jane, 30s,
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beautiful but pissed.
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Jane, an attractive and
fit nurse in her late 30s.
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Jane 40s, looks 35.
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Jane's the Harvard type.
Pretty, Hispanic.
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Smart as shit and beautiful.
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- We need a woman who's
strong-willed but hot.
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She has to be
strong-willed but hot, --
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meaning that a
strong-willed woman is
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usually not attractive.
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- The bimbo hot mamacita,
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seductress, voluptuous,
curvaceous, sassy.
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(dramatic music continues)
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- I make you feel
real nice today, Doug.
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I played this one
character who was
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an Asian masseuse,
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(laughing) and I remember
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when that casting breakdown
was being faxed to me
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and was (laughing) like,
"Is she also a bad driver,
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and is she good at math?"
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I mean, how many
stereotypes can you roll
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into this one character?
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(projector clattering)
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- You read so many
scripts, and you're like,
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"This is what you're gonna do,
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(film bursting in flame)
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this, and then you're gonna
get money to make this,
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and then you're gonna put this
thought out into the world
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with these characters?"
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- When I first started
my TV writing career,
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they were always looking
for a female writer to hire.
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It's terrible to say,
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but at the time I
felt really fortunate.
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I was like, "Oh, they're
looking for a female writer.
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I could be that
female writer,"
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but of course I wasn't
putting it together, like,
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'cause they already have a
writer's room of 11 guys.
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And there wasn't
a lot of interest
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in authentic female stories.
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I'll put it that way.
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- In some ways, I
think there's
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a (laughing) lotta 20 and
30 something male writers,
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who they'd admit, "I'm not
really sure I wanna to know
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what's in a woman's
head," you know,
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and, "I'd rather stand
out here
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and put a
gun in a guy's hand,
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and I'll write that story."
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In some respects, we may
have been shirking it.
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- They were just
telling their stories,
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and in their
stories, many times,
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we were
one-dimensional objects.
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- It's limited choices,
and that's just
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because it comes from
limited imaginations.
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(switch clicking)
(projector clattering)
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- You bad girl.
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- Mm, you'll find out.
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- In the very early
cinema, shockingly,
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you find something different.
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(upbeat music)
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- In the late 20s, early 30s,
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we did have a lot of
women writing screenplays.
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I mean a lot.
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I would say, like, 50-50.
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- Let's all, let's run.
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- [Mick] What you're seeing is
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the modern woman
expressed on screen.
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- I don't believe in what
you believe, that's all.
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I don't wanna get married.
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- I'm the doctor.
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- [Mick] And very importantly,
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you can have a woman be
very sexually adventurous.
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- Hold me close.
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- The 20s and 30s
was the sexiest time
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for women in movies, the
Betty Davises, the May Wests,
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- A little bit spicy
but not too raw,
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you know what I mean? (laughs)
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- [Jane] the Garbos,
they were naughty women.
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They were dangerous women.
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- Mm, your hand is shaking.
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(horseback rider laughing)
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- Women who starred
in the movies had
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a lot of power in those days,
and they'd draw box office,
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and they were saying, "I
wanna do stuff that's real."
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- I wanna do it and not
have somebody tell me
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I ought to do something else.
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(propeller clattering)
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(airplane engine roaring)
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- Women in film were
enjoying free expression.
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(actor laughing)
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And all of a sudden, this
vein was just cut off.
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It was just gone.
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- The vulgar, the cheap,
and the tawdry is out.
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There is no room on the
screen, at any time,
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for pictures which offend
against common decency.
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- [Linda] The Hollywood
production code was invented
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so that Hollywood
could police itself
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and, in that policing,
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prevent any kind of
state censorship.
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(audience laughing)
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- Night.
- Night.
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- [Linda] Couples are sleeping
in separate beds,
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(gentle lilting music)
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keep both feet firmly
planted on the floor.
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Kisses were only allowed
to be three seconds long,
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and what the kiss would lead
to could never be shown,
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no sexual relations between
white and black characters.
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- [Mick] There was no sex
allowed outside of marriage.
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- Goodbye mother.
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- But also sex
outside of marriage,
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to the extent that
it could be shown,
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had to be shown as
something that was tragic.
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- [Lover] Goodbye, baby.
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(gunshots blasting)
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- We had different
groups of people
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locked into a certain
representation.
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- Just hold on and suck in.
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- [Stephane] They're servants.
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They're the sidekick.
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- Turn me loose, you
fool, turn me loose.
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It's Ashley.
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- [Stephane] Hattie McDaniel,
who was crazily talented,
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had to perfect the
ability to play Mammy.
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- What's that
rustling noise I hear?
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- Lordy, Mr. Rhett,
that ain't nothing
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but my red silk petticoat
you done give me.
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- Black women had to be
positioned in this way
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in which they were
sexually non-threatening
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to white women on screen.
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Later on, they were
hypersexual or deviant.
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- I suggest that, while
you're on this ship,
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you wear something a
little less revealing.
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- Does it bother the captain?
274
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- [Stephane] Hollywood
didn't have in mind
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black female actresses
as leading ladies.
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(suspenseful music)
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- Anna May Wong was the first
Chinese American movie star.
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She was always cast
as the dragon lady.
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- Ronald.
- Uh, Joan.
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- The person who would
- (gunshot)
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steal your husband.
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With the code, interracial
marriage was not acceptable.
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It prevented her from
ever being a leading lady.
284
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- Don't do anything foolish.
285
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- Women's roles
were destroyed.
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- Now, you listen to me.
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You're going to
marry Phil Marshall
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and keep your mouth
shut till you die.
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- Just at a time
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when women in film were
enjoying some agency.
291
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(gentle apprehensive music)
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(actors chattering
indistinctly)
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- After my first movie, when
I started going on auditions,
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I hated asking for anything,
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and just by dint of
being there,
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you're kind of in
this position,
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you know, to say,
"Alms for the poor?"
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- He's just like,
"Forget that I'm famous."
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He's just like, you know.
- I know.
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- The feedback I
would get, you know,
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going in for, like, these
female leads would be like,
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"Is she sexy enough?"
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- Do it like Shakespeare
but sexy.
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- Okay.
305
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- Right there.
306
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- Thanks, okay,
nice to meet you.
307
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- [Rose] You're being
dissected immediately
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for your body.
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And it's something about
being in a long hallway
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with all these girls
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with tight tops and
miniskirts on and a big dream.
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00:16:10,503 --> 00:16:13,473
- The amount of parts
that say "nudity required"
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or, like,
"simulated sex required"
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creates the situation
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where all women have
to decide yes or no
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before they even get to
audition for the role.
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- You will lose out on work
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if you are not
willing to do nudity.
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- At the the big studios,
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they called it Bikini Day.
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(paper rustling)
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They would write a part
for a girl that had to be
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in a bikini for no
apparent reason.
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So, then they would have
auditions for said
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bikini girl,
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and that would be the
day they could get
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all of the producers there
and the director there
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to decide on other,
more important roles.
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- A shocking pink.
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(footsteps plodding)
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- When I was younger I
definitely went to auditions
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for the, you know,
sexy teenager.
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(glitzy music)
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00:17:04,091 --> 00:17:05,325
- [Presenter] Lorimar presents
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Blake Edwards' "S.O.B."
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- We were all required to
come in wearing a bikini.
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I was very well endowed,
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and I got the part.
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00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:19,272
(dramatic music)
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We were about to shoot.
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Blake Edwards, he said,
"Okay, so Rosanna,
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when you come in,
you know what?
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00:17:29,482 --> 00:17:31,218
Let's just lose the
bikini top.
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Okay, everybody,
let's go, "
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00:17:32,452 --> 00:17:33,653
and I was like,
"Um, Mr., Mr. Edwards,
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you mean take my, take
my bikini top off?"
347
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I was 19 at the time.
348
00:17:40,993 --> 00:17:43,263
And he goes, "Yeah, what, do
you have a problem with that?"
349
00:17:43,330 --> 00:17:45,498
And I said, "Well, I didn't
know I was gonna be nude.
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I didn't know I was
gonna be naked."
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00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:49,436
And he goes, "Oh, man, Tony,"
to his, you know, producer.
352
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He goes, "Call her agent."
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00:17:51,704 --> 00:17:54,441
And I just remembered, like,
everybody waiting for me
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and then him looking,
you know, holding out,
355
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and I was such in a
panic, and I did it,
356
00:18:00,513 --> 00:18:03,716
and I felt very humiliated
and very sad about it.
357
00:18:05,352 --> 00:18:08,421
But you know, this
was those days.
358
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It was a completely
different consciousness.
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You were expected
to do these things.
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00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:17,630
(dramatic music continues)
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00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:21,834
(waves lapping)
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00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:26,439
(birds chirping)
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00:18:26,539 --> 00:18:28,908
- The best way to do this,
to get the right head motion,
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and also the DP's
gonna have to put
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the camera in the right
place is you make a fist,
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you put your thumb here.
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00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:37,650
(actor laughing)
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You suck your own thumb.
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(actor laughing)
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And if you put the
camera right behind them,
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- [Actor] Mm-hmm,
it just looks like-
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- then you get the whole-
- [Actor] Yeah.
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- Thing.
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And it gets the right-
- Freaky.
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00:18:46,159 --> 00:18:47,427
- Yeah, oh, yeah, wow.
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00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:48,094
- The guy's head movement.
- The look of it.
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00:18:48,195 --> 00:18:49,128
- Yep.
- Wow.
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00:18:49,229 --> 00:18:50,830
Did not know that.
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00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:51,998
- Wow.
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- [Actor] Yep, okay.
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00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:56,869
- Today, we're gonna
be getting to the core
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of what does it mean to
be an intimacy coordinator
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and, like, how does all
this stuff function.
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We're gonna talk about the
three most common types
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or, like, themes
in choreography,
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which are romance,
passion, dominance,
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so like, what sorts of
touch are associated
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and then what are
some, like, hints
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in terms of often
dialogue that we're going
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in the direction of
this theme.
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Romance typically has a gentle
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but solid feeling
at the same time.
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See how light he's being?
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00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:34,774
- [Students] Yeah.
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- [Amanda] Long, soft,
continuous strokes
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over different
areas of the body,
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- [Student] This guy's-
- That reads romantic.
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00:19:44,284 --> 00:19:46,786
They're about to go into
passion, and here we go,
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00:19:48,688 --> 00:19:53,660
(romantic music)
(lips smacking)
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00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,094
(lover moaning)
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It's kind of animalistic, and
they kind of just, like, allow
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themselves to get lost
in the experience,
403
00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,102
and it's a bit out of control.
404
00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:05,872
(lovers moaning)
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00:20:12,479 --> 00:20:13,846
So, the last one's dominance.
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00:20:21,754 --> 00:20:26,693
- [Amanda] The energy tends
to be cool, calm, collected.
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00:20:32,465 --> 00:20:34,967
- [Amanda] It can be sadistic.
(lever clanging)
408
00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:35,468
(actor breathing heavily)
409
00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,537
It can be punishing.
410
00:20:39,439 --> 00:20:41,841
(actor breathing heavily)
(tape creaking)
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00:20:41,941 --> 00:20:46,713
- Just is occurring to me
how fraught this is for men.
412
00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:49,516
- A lot of them are
afraid of, like,
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"What if I, like, cross
another person's boundaries?"
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Or, "What if I, like, harm her
or do something?" you know.
415
00:20:54,454 --> 00:20:55,388
- And you have to
do a good job.
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00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:56,356
It needs to look a
certain way.
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00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:57,123
I mean it's a lot of-
- Mm-hmm.
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00:20:57,189 --> 00:20:58,157
- Ooh.
- Yeah.
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00:20:58,257 --> 00:20:59,592
- It's, like, an exaggeration
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00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:00,092
of everything in the culture
happening right there.
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00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:01,060
- [Amanda] Yeah.
422
00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,194
- [Student] Mm-hmm.
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00:21:02,295 --> 00:21:03,330
(tense music)
- Okay, here we go,
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00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:05,565
let's lock it up, please.
425
00:21:05,665 --> 00:21:07,334
- [Crew] Belle Rose, take one.
426
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,037
- All right, quiet
now, on a bell.
427
00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:12,972
(bell ringing)
428
00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:15,442
And roll please.
429
00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,245
- Speed.
430
00:21:19,346 --> 00:21:20,713
(slate clacking)
431
00:21:20,813 --> 00:21:23,650
- If there's gonna be nudity
or a sex scene in a movie,
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SAG has certain requirements.
433
00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:29,322
(metal clanging)
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00:21:29,389 --> 00:21:30,823
They have to send
you, in writing,
435
00:21:30,923 --> 00:21:36,062
what the sex or the
nudity is going to entail.
436
00:21:36,162 --> 00:21:38,665
(tense music continues)
437
00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:42,635
- The nudity rider is
a very thorough list
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00:21:42,702 --> 00:21:44,937
of what can or cannot be shown
439
00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:48,074
and what you will
or will not do.
440
00:21:48,174 --> 00:21:49,776
- You have these
441
00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:53,680
fairly dry conversations
442
00:21:53,746 --> 00:21:59,786
about boob, side
boob, nipple, flank.
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00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:01,588
That's a big one, flank.
444
00:22:02,054 --> 00:22:03,723
- Let me see your tits.
445
00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:07,827
(footsteps plodding)
446
00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:09,762
- [Writer] For the purposes
of this nudity consent rider,
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player agrees that player
services will require
448
00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:14,901
nudity and/or simulated
sex scenes in accordance
449
00:22:14,967 --> 00:22:17,336
with the terms and
conditions provided herein.
450
00:22:17,404 --> 00:22:18,337
- Very nice.
451
00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,209
- I'll show the side of my
breast but not my nipple.
452
00:22:23,309 --> 00:22:26,479
I'll show my rear end,
453
00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:27,547
but I only want
(eraser scratching)
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00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:29,449
part of the butt
crack to show.
455
00:22:29,549 --> 00:22:32,318
- It's sometimes a
little odd to go through
456
00:22:32,419 --> 00:22:34,053
how specific it is,
457
00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,922
(pen etching)
458
00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:37,657
you know, whether
you're going to see
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00:22:37,757 --> 00:22:39,959
the nipple or not,
the areola or not.
460
00:22:42,294 --> 00:22:45,164
- It even gets as specific as,
like, if you have a position,
461
00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:48,067
if you're doing, like,
doggie style, for example,
462
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it includes the anal cavity.
463
00:22:50,002 --> 00:22:51,571
- And even with
the nudity rider,
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00:22:51,671 --> 00:22:53,039
it's not entirely perfect.
465
00:22:53,139 --> 00:22:55,074
- [Executive] Thought
that's what you wanted.
466
00:22:55,174 --> 00:22:56,543
- No.
467
00:22:56,643 --> 00:22:58,945
- It has definitely happened
where people thought
468
00:22:59,045 --> 00:23:01,247
a scene was gonna get
portrayed one way,
469
00:23:01,347 --> 00:23:03,716
and they arrive, and all of
a sudden the director has
470
00:23:03,816 --> 00:23:07,787
this other, really
creative idea.
471
00:23:10,089 --> 00:23:13,826
The sex scene wasn't,
"Oh, we're making love."
472
00:23:13,926 --> 00:23:15,995
It's very harsh,
473
00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:17,029
(lovers moaning)
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00:23:17,096 --> 00:23:19,666
things that they would
not have agreed to
475
00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:21,568
if they had understood
(lover moaning)
476
00:23:21,668 --> 00:23:26,172
how the director was going
to film that nude scene.
477
00:23:26,272 --> 00:23:26,973
- [Crew] Video.
478
00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:28,541
(slate clacking)
479
00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:31,478
- And if it's not SAG, you
don't have protections.
480
00:23:31,578 --> 00:23:33,279
There's a whole
arena of movies
481
00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:34,481
where you're not
covered by a union.
482
00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:37,750
You have no protections.
483
00:23:39,452 --> 00:23:41,387
- I went on set,
and I discovered
484
00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:45,458
that I had two nude
scenes, not one.
485
00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:49,696
I was told that it was
gonna be empowering.
486
00:23:51,030 --> 00:23:53,800
In this industry,
things happen so fast.
487
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,669
They don't really, you know,
sit down with you like,
488
00:23:56,769 --> 00:23:57,436
"Oh, we're thinking
about doing it this way
489
00:23:57,537 --> 00:23:59,539
or this other way."
490
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,074
When I saw the final product,
491
00:24:02,174 --> 00:24:04,811
I didn't think it
was tasteful at all.
492
00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:09,448
(tense music continues)
493
00:24:11,584 --> 00:24:13,920
- [Crew] Talent to set.
494
00:24:14,854 --> 00:24:17,323
- And that's why it's
really so important on a set
495
00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:19,158
to have a person who can
help you enforce your rights.
496
00:24:22,328 --> 00:24:22,995
- [Director] Action.
497
00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:27,166
(brush grating)
498
00:24:32,138 --> 00:24:33,673
- The hair I'm
using is human hair.
499
00:24:33,773 --> 00:24:37,109
It's permed and straightened,
500
00:24:38,745 --> 00:24:41,548
and I've got two or three
different colors here,
501
00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:43,850
and I'm blending
the colors together.
502
00:24:46,285 --> 00:24:47,820
(fingers brushing cloth)
503
00:24:47,887 --> 00:24:51,457
Actors that are doing
mainstream entertainment
504
00:24:51,558 --> 00:24:55,762
are not signing up to do
a real sex scene.
505
00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:57,664
They're not really having sex,
506
00:24:57,730 --> 00:24:59,832
but they have to really
look like they are,
507
00:25:01,601 --> 00:25:03,936
so a merkin is
508
00:25:04,036 --> 00:25:06,238
essentially a pubic hair wig.
509
00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:08,708
(scissors slicing)
510
00:25:08,808 --> 00:25:09,909
And a lot of ladies
say they like wearing
511
00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:11,310
the modesty garment
with the merkin over it
512
00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:13,112
'cause they look
totally naked,
513
00:25:13,212 --> 00:25:15,114
but they don't
feel like they are.
514
00:25:15,181 --> 00:25:17,650
They feel like they're wearing
an item of clothing still,
515
00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,018
so they feel safe.
516
00:25:20,787 --> 00:25:25,024
And then, when it's done,
it's very natural looking.
517
00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,628
I like to present them
in nice little boxes.
518
00:25:28,728 --> 00:25:30,329
Kinda makes everybody
kinda comfortable
519
00:25:30,429 --> 00:25:33,933
about the whole situation,
which can be very awkward.
520
00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:36,803
- [Actor] Hi, good morning.
521
00:25:36,903 --> 00:25:38,337
- Hi.
- Hi.
522
00:25:38,437 --> 00:25:39,371
- Do you have any
skin allergies?
523
00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:40,006
- No.
524
00:25:40,106 --> 00:25:41,140
- Perfect.
525
00:25:42,174 --> 00:25:45,311
(singer vocalzing)
526
00:25:56,155 --> 00:25:58,257
- The experience of
shooting a sex scene is,
527
00:25:58,357 --> 00:26:01,694
like, the least sexy
thing in the world.
528
00:26:01,794 --> 00:26:03,630
(machine buzzing)
529
00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:04,263
* Ba, ba *
(hand rubbing)
530
00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:12,972
- [Zoe] They will have
a modesty garment on,
531
00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:15,675
which is a very
small pair of panties
532
00:26:15,775 --> 00:26:19,679
that has no sides and no back.
533
00:26:22,682 --> 00:26:24,684
- [Zoe] Some people
are very nervous.
534
00:26:24,784 --> 00:26:27,586
It's not something
they do every day.
535
00:26:30,823 --> 00:26:32,625
- [Director] And action,
it's a rehearsal.
536
00:26:32,725 --> 00:26:34,226
(bed creaking)
537
00:26:34,326 --> 00:26:36,562
- [Jessica] It's also strange
because you usually just meet,
538
00:26:36,629 --> 00:26:37,529
and there you are
touching each other
539
00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:38,898
and laying all over
each other.
540
00:26:38,998 --> 00:26:41,267
- [Director] One, let's have
her on top now, roll over.
541
00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:45,604
- [Director] That's great.
542
00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:46,673
Hold there.
543
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,841
- [Jessica] With rehearsal,
544
00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:50,810
we just kind of walk
through the steps.
545
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:52,278
- [Director] Okay,
now start over.
546
00:26:52,378 --> 00:26:54,847
- Here's the position, or
now they're on the couch,
547
00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:56,548
or now you're sitting here.
548
00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,285
- Go right, left up, down,
spin in a circle and land,
549
00:26:59,385 --> 00:27:00,987
and then the guy's gonna
yank your head back.
550
00:27:03,222 --> 00:27:04,724
- You don't go to
school and learn
551
00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:08,427
how to, you know,
choreograph sex scenes.
552
00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:10,062
- [Crew] Cameras rolling.
553
00:27:10,162 --> 00:27:13,232
- I was on set and
was working on a film
554
00:27:13,332 --> 00:27:15,334
that required quite
a bit of nudity.
555
00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:23,009
The DP tried to sneakily and
very slowly move the camera
556
00:27:23,109 --> 00:27:25,812
so that it could shoot
the lower part of me nude
557
00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:27,213
as well as the upper part.
558
00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:31,150
Every day that I went
to work after that,
559
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:34,286
I thought about, how
much had they shot
560
00:27:34,386 --> 00:27:35,788
that we hadn't caught?
561
00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:41,227
- Playing an intimate
scene with another partner,
562
00:27:42,461 --> 00:27:43,429
you know, is awkward,
563
00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:45,664
and not intimate at all,
and very disconnected.
564
00:27:46,298 --> 00:27:47,800
When I watched it,
the nakedness
565
00:27:47,867 --> 00:27:50,770
of my body being turned
566
00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:53,973
into an image for
anyone to see,
567
00:27:54,073 --> 00:27:56,375
suddenly I realized
my body wasn't mine.
568
00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:03,883
- You're simulating sex,
569
00:28:03,983 --> 00:28:06,085
but there's only so much
simulating you can do.
570
00:28:06,152 --> 00:28:07,787
You can't simulate a kiss.
571
00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,355
You have to really
kiss someone,
572
00:28:09,455 --> 00:28:12,258
and you have to really
touch their naked body.
573
00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:13,392
Like I almost, when I
have had to do sex scenes,
574
00:28:13,492 --> 00:28:16,562
and I've done many, it's
almost like I go into
575
00:28:16,662 --> 00:28:17,696
a blackout,
576
00:28:17,797 --> 00:28:19,331
like I just have to
get it over with.
577
00:28:19,899 --> 00:28:21,267
I wake up that morning
with so much dread.
578
00:28:25,304 --> 00:28:27,373
- Oftentimes, I did
what I normally do
579
00:28:27,473 --> 00:28:28,674
when I get freaked out.
580
00:28:28,775 --> 00:28:31,277
I just kind of leave my body
and float up to the ceiling.
581
00:28:33,612 --> 00:28:35,782
- [Sheryl] My first tendency
is almost go numb to it
582
00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:37,683
because it's too intense.
583
00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:42,221
And yet, if I do that,
then I'm not present,
584
00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:45,491
and I'm not doing
the best work as an actor
585
00:28:45,591 --> 00:28:46,158
that I can do.
586
00:28:51,663 --> 00:28:53,432
(actors breathing heavily)
587
00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:58,437
- With American puritanism,
it's hard to talk about sex.
588
00:28:59,605 --> 00:29:01,373
Sex is taboo.
589
00:29:02,341 --> 00:29:06,979
It is the realm of real
people in real bodies having
590
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:09,248
relations with one another.
591
00:29:09,348 --> 00:29:13,419
That's not so comfortable
to the filmmakers.
592
00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:14,253
- Say mercy.
- No.
593
00:29:14,486 --> 00:29:15,254
- Come on.
- No.
594
00:29:15,554 --> 00:29:16,622
- Say mercy.
- No.
595
00:29:17,023 --> 00:29:18,724
- The first sex
scene I ever did was
596
00:29:18,825 --> 00:29:20,426
on my first feature,
"D.E.B.S.,"
597
00:29:20,793 --> 00:29:22,228
and I was so nervous.
598
00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:28,034
- Nobody feels comfortable
talking about sex, period.
599
00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:29,836
(laughs) Nobody
feels comfortable
600
00:29:29,902 --> 00:29:31,070
saying they're uncomfortable.
601
00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:33,172
- It's a moment of intimacy.
602
00:29:35,241 --> 00:29:36,943
- Trying to have, like,
a 10 minute conversation
603
00:29:37,043 --> 00:29:38,744
with a director or a
producer to be like,
604
00:29:38,845 --> 00:29:40,446
"So, you're are okay
with these things?"
605
00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:41,580
check, check, check is not
606
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,452
a very thorough way to
define your boundaries.
607
00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:54,260
- There is so much shame
around the body,
608
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,394
around desire.
609
00:29:57,196 --> 00:30:00,532
There are a lot of directors
who don't know how to talk
610
00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:04,003
about sex because it remains
611
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:07,473
this forbidden
area of our lives.
612
00:30:09,842 --> 00:30:11,543
(door thudding)
613
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,948
(dramatic music)
614
00:30:17,616 --> 00:30:21,287
- Oh, God, oh, Jesus Christ.
615
00:30:21,387 --> 00:30:25,024
- [Linda] The 1960s
and the early '70s were
616
00:30:25,124 --> 00:30:26,492
the era of sexual revolution.
617
00:30:29,095 --> 00:30:30,930
Everything was changing,
618
00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:38,537
and with the rise of hardcore
pornography on big screens,
619
00:30:39,338 --> 00:30:42,641
the avant garde like
Andy Warhol's art films
620
00:30:42,741 --> 00:30:45,878
and the Europeans
leading the way,
621
00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:50,549
I think it just became
absurd for movies to pretend
622
00:30:50,649 --> 00:30:53,552
that the era of the code
was still operating.
623
00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:57,589
- Mom. this is John.
624
00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,559
(upbeat music)
625
00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:06,398
- [Linda] The world of
European sexual liberty-
626
00:31:06,798 --> 00:31:08,534
- He is.
627
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,138
- and American prudery
sort of come together
628
00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:14,340
in the career of Jane Fonda.
629
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,841
- Man, you sure
do look different.
630
00:31:15,942 --> 00:31:19,311
- Oh, boy, you not only don't
talk much, you don't say much.
631
00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:20,412
In the first part of my career
632
00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:23,649
when I was playing
ingenue roles here
633
00:31:23,749 --> 00:31:25,184
in the United States,
634
00:31:25,284 --> 00:31:27,019
I was never asked to
take my clothes off.
635
00:31:27,086 --> 00:31:29,455
I mean, this was late
'50s, early '60s.
636
00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:32,291
It wasn't until I went
to France (laughs)
637
00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:35,461
under the guidance
of Roger Vadim.
638
00:31:35,527 --> 00:31:39,831
I fell in love with him, and
I eventually married him.
639
00:31:39,932 --> 00:31:41,167
I knew what I was
getting into.
640
00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:43,035
He never made a movie where
women weren't undressed.
641
00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:46,338
So, I knew that was coming
along, and it did,
642
00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:46,472
and I did it.
643
00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,177
(upbeat music)
644
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,418
Roger promised me that
he would use the letters
645
00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:02,621
of the titles to cover
the important things,
646
00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:10,162
which was only
partly realized.
647
00:32:13,699 --> 00:32:16,335
I was utterly terrified.
648
00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:17,769
I was 30.
649
00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:19,238
I should have known better,
650
00:32:19,871 --> 00:32:22,308
but I was at a
place in my life
651
00:32:22,408 --> 00:32:25,511
when, if you were
asked to do something,
652
00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:27,579
especially by a man,
you did it.
653
00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:32,118
(upbeat music continues)
654
00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:37,423
I didn't know anything
about nudity clauses,
655
00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:39,791
and contracts, and all
those other things.
656
00:32:39,891 --> 00:32:40,559
I just did what I was told,
657
00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:47,533
and so I just got drunk
(laughs) basically.
658
00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:52,504
- Now, it was possible to
play with different rules,
659
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:55,907
but the different
rules were not
660
00:32:56,708 --> 00:33:00,046
a whole lot different
from the old rules.
661
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,516
I think these early films show
662
00:33:04,616 --> 00:33:09,588
how, for men, sex is a
very homosocial relation,
663
00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:13,725
whether it's Jon Voight
and Dustin Hoffman
664
00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,294
in "Midnight Cowboy,"
665
00:33:17,196 --> 00:33:19,765
- [Linda] or Art Garfunkel
and Jack Nicholson
666
00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:21,733
in "Carnal Knowledge."
667
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:23,169
- What do you say?
668
00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:26,305
- [Linda] What the man
is often doing is proving
669
00:33:26,405 --> 00:33:31,310
his virility to his
friends via a woman.
670
00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:36,982
Breasts were now completely
available for looking at,
671
00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:42,621
but male frontal nudity
was really frowned on.
672
00:33:43,222 --> 00:33:45,591
- Real portrayal of
romance and intimacy
673
00:33:47,093 --> 00:33:49,828
as it's practiced
in life weren't part
674
00:33:49,928 --> 00:33:53,099
of the American
cinematic lexicon
675
00:33:53,199 --> 00:33:56,468
for decades, and
decades, and decades.
676
00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:57,703
(upbeat music)
677
00:33:57,803 --> 00:34:01,473
And suddenly, when censorship
lifted in the 1960s,
678
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:06,112
we went from having
romance without sex
679
00:34:06,212 --> 00:34:08,013
to having sex without romance.
680
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,616
(lover moaning)
681
00:34:11,549 --> 00:34:16,254
- Oh, yeah, wait, why don't
you turn out the lights?
682
00:34:16,988 --> 00:34:20,192
(confrontational music)
683
00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:23,595
- In the '70s so-called
blaxploitation films,
684
00:34:23,694 --> 00:34:27,766
you see a lot of sex, drugs,
lots of female nudity,
685
00:34:30,102 --> 00:34:32,270
and these different characters
686
00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:36,142
who were not Sidney
Poitier being accepted
687
00:34:36,241 --> 00:34:38,277
into a white world.
688
00:34:39,611 --> 00:34:43,149
You have bad-ass heroes,
right, Black heroes.
689
00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:49,321
They spoke to the
Black Power movement
690
00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,491
and the Black
feminist movement.
691
00:34:53,325 --> 00:34:57,129
- You want me to crawl,
white motherfucker?
692
00:34:57,229 --> 00:34:58,930
- What are you doing?
693
00:34:58,997 --> 00:35:00,166
Put that down.
694
00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:02,434
- You wanna spit on
me and make me crawl?
695
00:35:02,534 --> 00:35:04,803
- The people loved
it (laughs).
696
00:35:06,305 --> 00:35:08,474
We were breaking all
kinds of records.
697
00:35:09,375 --> 00:35:12,778
- [Stephane] Black women
were, quote, "sex goddesses"
698
00:35:12,878 --> 00:35:14,480
for the very first time.
699
00:35:16,382 --> 00:35:18,650
- For our hue, it was new.
700
00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:23,755
How many love scenes did
you see of us in any movie
701
00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:26,024
during that period
of the '60s and '70s?
702
00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:27,125
None.
703
00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:29,328
- But, of course,
there was controversy
704
00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:31,029
from the very beginning.
705
00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,264
- (laughing) Hey.
706
00:35:32,331 --> 00:35:33,999
- There's harems
of women who are
707
00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:35,801
at the disposal of these men,
708
00:35:37,403 --> 00:35:42,241
which really highlighted
their sexual bodies,
709
00:35:42,308 --> 00:35:43,242
(funky music)
710
00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:47,179
sort of an extreme
voyeuristic eroticism.
711
00:35:51,883 --> 00:35:53,719
* Live any let die *
712
00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:57,723
- Turn around slowly.
713
00:35:58,557 --> 00:36:00,125
- [Stephane] Course,
you had Gloria Hendry,
714
00:36:00,226 --> 00:36:02,328
who was first Black
woman being a Bond girl.
715
00:36:03,729 --> 00:36:06,465
- Oh, beautiful, brave,
and now resourceful.
716
00:36:06,565 --> 00:36:08,367
- [Stephane] It was
really a watershed moment.
717
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:09,735
(peaceful music)
718
00:36:10,702 --> 00:36:12,538
But the film only goes so far.
719
00:36:16,442 --> 00:36:17,576
- [Gloria] I think that the
white people were scared
720
00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:20,679
of the repercussions
of their base,
721
00:36:20,779 --> 00:36:24,216
having a black actress
wind up with Bond.
722
00:36:24,283 --> 00:36:25,083
- Oh, James.
723
00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:27,686
(dramatic music)
724
00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:28,787
(dart whooshing)
725
00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:32,958
- She's killed, of course.
726
00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:36,462
A Black actress couldn't
possibly wind up with Bond.
727
00:36:39,231 --> 00:36:41,900
(brooding music)
728
00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:57,749
- Out of 5,000 pairs
of legs, I was chosen,
729
00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:01,987
and I thought, "Wow, no
one's ever gonna know
730
00:37:02,087 --> 00:37:04,256
that it's me on the screen."
731
00:37:05,457 --> 00:37:07,058
It was just like a cattle
call, and they were like,
732
00:37:07,158 --> 00:37:07,959
"Your legs, yes.
733
00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:08,760
Your legs, no.
734
00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:08,927
Your legs, maybe."
735
00:37:10,896 --> 00:37:13,732
- [Director] Okay, let's
bring in the body double.
736
00:37:13,832 --> 00:37:15,133
Okay, good, stay
right in there.
737
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,167
- Hi.
- Hi.
738
00:37:16,268 --> 00:37:17,869
- I'm Mindy,
pleased to meet you.
739
00:37:17,969 --> 00:37:18,870
- [Actor] Nice to meet you.
740
00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:21,973
- Our body is on the
film that you're seeing.
741
00:37:22,841 --> 00:37:26,378
You're there to make the
actress look perfect,
742
00:37:26,478 --> 00:37:28,347
(water pattering)
743
00:37:28,447 --> 00:37:33,452
perfect legs, perfect
breasts, perfect body.
744
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:35,321
- I think the public would
be shocked to find out
745
00:37:35,787 --> 00:37:39,090
how many hands aren't
really the hand
746
00:37:39,157 --> 00:37:41,993
(laughs) of the talent or
the butt of the talent.
747
00:37:43,362 --> 00:37:48,033
- Kim Basinger, Madonna,
Barbara Streisand.
748
00:37:48,634 --> 00:37:50,068
In "Pretty Woman," the
whole opening scene
749
00:37:50,168 --> 00:37:53,271
where she's getting dressed
to meet Richard Gear,
750
00:37:53,372 --> 00:37:54,640
that's my body.
751
00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:59,745
Body doubling is
really hush-hush.
752
00:38:01,947 --> 00:38:03,615
- I was Janet
Lee's acting double
753
00:38:03,682 --> 00:38:05,484
in the shower scene
of "Psycho."
754
00:38:06,552 --> 00:38:07,919
You don't see her face.
755
00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:09,054
That's me.
756
00:38:09,154 --> 00:38:10,489
(creepy music)
757
00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:12,257
(bather screaming)
758
00:38:12,324 --> 00:38:13,258
That's the back of my head,
759
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:16,294
my hands, my arms,
my belly button.
760
00:38:17,396 --> 00:38:19,431
(dramatic music)
761
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,071
Janet Lee wrote her
biography, and she let on
762
00:38:26,171 --> 00:38:27,506
that she did the whole thing.
763
00:38:28,073 --> 00:38:30,842
(clicks tongue)
Pissed me off (laughs)
764
00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:32,911
that I wasn't recognized.
765
00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:34,846
(fire crackling)
766
00:38:34,946 --> 00:38:40,018
- In "Rising Sun," I was
the live body sushi plate.
767
00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:42,721
(glass shattering)
(residents screaming)
768
00:38:43,088 --> 00:38:44,255
- [Police Officer] Police.
- SWAT team was breaking
769
00:38:44,356 --> 00:38:45,223
through the window,
and I'm there nude
770
00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:46,091
with the sushi on me,
771
00:38:46,825 --> 00:38:47,793
and I remember
looking away saying,
772
00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:49,895
"I'm not gonna get
cut by the glass."
773
00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:53,331
But if your a body double,
774
00:38:53,399 --> 00:38:54,366
they pull you out
like a chicken dinner.
775
00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:55,834
You're like, "Bring
out the breast,
776
00:38:55,934 --> 00:38:58,336
bring out the thighs,
bring out the leg."
777
00:38:58,437 --> 00:39:00,138
They just think, "Oh,
you're just there."
778
00:39:00,238 --> 00:39:01,840
You're just kind of not real.
779
00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:04,910
(mouse clicking)
780
00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:15,421
- Somebody in the producing
department wants there
781
00:39:15,521 --> 00:39:17,723
to be less smile lines,
782
00:39:17,823 --> 00:39:18,557
(mouse clicking)
783
00:39:18,657 --> 00:39:20,792
so it aged her down slightly.
784
00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:26,498
My work consists of
visual effects, generally,
785
00:39:26,598 --> 00:39:29,868
but a lot of requests
I get from clients is
786
00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:31,036
to do beauty work.
787
00:39:32,438 --> 00:39:33,972
(mouse clicking)
788
00:39:34,072 --> 00:39:36,708
She's got her little mole
here, just sample it
789
00:39:37,075 --> 00:39:38,644
and erase it.
790
00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:43,348
Removing blemishes,
freckles, pubic hair,
791
00:39:43,449 --> 00:39:46,718
slimming people up,
making 'em look younger.
792
00:39:47,686 --> 00:39:50,021
It was a heavily guarded
secret when it first came out.
793
00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:54,025
Now, most people on television
and film get it done.
794
00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:06,672
As far as making
somebody look younger,
795
00:40:06,772 --> 00:40:09,374
it's mostly a
request for women,
796
00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:13,679
cleaning up, like, bags under
the eyes or neck wrinkles.
797
00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:16,782
I get asked to do face
replacements a lot,
798
00:40:16,882 --> 00:40:20,285
and usually, that has
to do with stunts.
799
00:40:20,351 --> 00:40:22,988
So, if there's a stunt double,
and their face is visible,
800
00:40:23,088 --> 00:40:26,191
then we put the actual
actor's face on the stunt.
801
00:40:26,658 --> 00:40:27,793
But they're
starting to do this
802
00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:29,728
more often for
beauty purposes,
803
00:40:29,828 --> 00:40:32,030
so you get a stunt
body or a body double.
804
00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:37,869
In "Game of Thrones," it
was somebody else's body,
805
00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,138
and her head was
literally stitched
806
00:40:40,205 --> 00:40:41,439
right on top of that body.
807
00:40:43,241 --> 00:40:46,478
There was a request that
came in from a client for me
808
00:40:46,578 --> 00:40:50,148
to remove a postnatal belly
809
00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:52,851
because this actress
had just given birth.
810
00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:58,857
So, that was just a
matter of taking her body,
811
00:40:58,957 --> 00:41:01,827
rotoing it out, cutting
it out, squeezing it,
812
00:41:01,927 --> 00:41:04,663
and then basically
putting it right back on
813
00:41:04,763 --> 00:41:05,931
and cleaning up the background
814
00:41:06,031 --> 00:41:07,699
wherever her belly
would've been.
815
00:41:08,634 --> 00:41:09,801
(mouse clicking)
816
00:41:09,901 --> 00:41:12,370
This is before,
and that's after.
817
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:13,805
(mouse clicking)
818
00:41:13,905 --> 00:41:15,907
Actors and actresses buy
into it, and they persist it,
819
00:41:16,007 --> 00:41:18,910
and they ask for it
because they believe
820
00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:21,780
that this is important,
and this is needed,
821
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,148
and that we need to
portray our best selves.
822
00:41:25,951 --> 00:41:27,052
We should all be looking
like China dolls.
823
00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:30,956
You know, we should all
have flawless faces.
824
00:41:31,923 --> 00:41:34,626
- Whatever we do, we always
wanna look our very best.
825
00:41:36,127 --> 00:41:40,999
- I don't respond to
ultra beauty in my life.
826
00:41:41,667 --> 00:41:44,903
I like flaws, and I like
to see natural people.
827
00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:47,573
I feel like I'm
part of the problem
828
00:41:47,673 --> 00:41:48,206
instead of the
solution for that.
829
00:41:50,576 --> 00:41:51,610
(bathers chattering
indistinctly)
830
00:41:54,646 --> 00:41:55,947
- Dammit, it's Barbara McNeil.
831
00:41:57,783 --> 00:42:00,051
- [Mick] In American movies,
832
00:42:00,118 --> 00:42:01,753
(footsteps plodding)
- Mind if I join you?
833
00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:04,522
- [Mick] there has
always been limits
834
00:42:04,623 --> 00:42:06,958
to who's allowed to be sexual.
835
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:10,128
(bather sighs)
(water sloshing)
836
00:42:10,228 --> 00:42:13,064
- I worked for a television
producer earlier in my career,
837
00:42:13,164 --> 00:42:16,868
who, when we were casting
day-player roles, said
838
00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:19,571
"There are no fat
women in my shows."
839
00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,040
And I remember, at
the time, going,
840
00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:25,143
"Wow, like, he's created
a whole universe,"
841
00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:28,079
and it's true, in his brand,
there are no fat women.
842
00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:31,316
I'm fat.
843
00:42:31,416 --> 00:42:32,818
That's not a bad word.
844
00:42:32,918 --> 00:42:36,287
And I am fat naked and
in front of a lover, too.
845
00:42:37,355 --> 00:42:39,825
I only see that as a joke.
846
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,762
- I get it.
847
00:42:43,862 --> 00:42:45,664
You're self-conscious
about your body.
848
00:42:46,331 --> 00:42:48,066
Don't worry, I was gonna
shut the lights off anyway.
849
00:42:48,166 --> 00:42:50,335
- But then it causes
for us to be like,
850
00:42:50,435 --> 00:42:50,969
"Turn off the lights.
851
00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:51,903
Don't see me."
852
00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:55,106
What we see on
the screen affects
853
00:42:55,173 --> 00:42:57,709
what you take into
the bedroom.
854
00:42:57,809 --> 00:42:59,878
- You're cool with going
out the back again, right?
855
00:42:59,978 --> 00:43:00,712
- Um.
856
00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:05,050
- It is very few, very few,
857
00:43:05,751 --> 00:43:11,156
extremely rare, and far
between to see people
858
00:43:11,222 --> 00:43:14,926
with disabilities in
sexual situations.
859
00:43:15,827 --> 00:43:20,565
So, people don't genuinely
think that it exists.
860
00:43:21,032 --> 00:43:24,602
- I don't want you to
miss all the things
861
00:43:24,703 --> 00:43:26,337
that someone else
could give you.
862
00:43:26,404 --> 00:43:27,338
(dramatic music)
Luisa.
863
00:43:30,341 --> 00:43:31,810
- I once told my manager,
864
00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:34,512
"I'm not gonna play
anybody in a hospital.
865
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:37,548
I'm not gonna play
anymore lawyers
866
00:43:37,649 --> 00:43:39,985
or desexualized trans people,
867
00:43:40,085 --> 00:43:41,920
and I'm not gonna play anyone
868
00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:43,722
who visits anybody
in a hospital,"
869
00:43:43,822 --> 00:43:45,223
and I didn't work
for two years.
870
00:43:46,357 --> 00:43:48,459
So, if I keep
taking the hormones.
871
00:43:48,526 --> 00:43:49,795
- You'd be feeding the cancer.
872
00:43:49,895 --> 00:43:54,465
- Are you saying, if I
become a woman, I could die?
873
00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:58,269
- In Hollywood, exclusion
is part of the story.
874
00:44:00,505 --> 00:44:01,572
- Hey, try this.
875
00:44:02,007 --> 00:44:03,508
- [Angela] When
I was a teenager,
876
00:44:03,608 --> 00:44:06,712
there wasn't that much
queer representation at all.
877
00:44:06,778 --> 00:44:08,146
- So, what do you think?
(utensil clinking)
878
00:44:08,246 --> 00:44:10,882
- You'd, like, scour
the video store
879
00:44:10,982 --> 00:44:14,853
for, like, obtuse glances
between women on video boxes.
880
00:44:16,221 --> 00:44:20,458
- In the "Color Purple,"
these women love each other.
881
00:44:20,558 --> 00:44:21,827
They see each other sexually,
882
00:44:21,927 --> 00:44:25,997
but doesn't go full
on into sex scenes.
883
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:31,369
(brooding music)
884
00:44:32,437 --> 00:44:34,372
- [Lover] You two
have met, haven't you?
885
00:44:34,472 --> 00:44:38,076
- [Angela] Or, it's about some
weird male fantasy spectacle.
886
00:44:40,879 --> 00:44:42,147
- And we have to
remember the sensors are
887
00:44:42,247 --> 00:44:45,316
white, cisgender,
heteronormative men
888
00:44:47,018 --> 00:44:48,453
who said, "Look, if
you're gonna do this,
889
00:44:48,553 --> 00:44:52,490
if you're gonna be naked, we
wanna see two women together
890
00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:53,424
'cause that's art."
891
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,461
Right?
892
00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:56,862
Penises are pornography.
893
00:44:56,962 --> 00:44:58,696
Tits are art.
894
00:45:00,832 --> 00:45:03,401
(singer vocalizing)
895
00:45:12,844 --> 00:45:14,045
- Film has been
896
00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:18,283
men showing other
men what they see.
897
00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:21,352
- What is visual pleasure?
898
00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:31,062
- It's not actually about
watching two other people.
899
00:45:31,162 --> 00:45:33,865
All it is is about
the male fantasy.
900
00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:41,506
- I don't know anything that
I saw growing up that told me
901
00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:44,042
that I could have the agenda
902
00:45:44,142 --> 00:45:45,944
of being the one who
wanted the pleasure.
903
00:45:48,646 --> 00:45:51,917
Nobody actually tells a
woman that, when she has sex,
904
00:45:52,017 --> 00:45:54,085
you know, there is a space
905
00:45:54,152 --> 00:45:55,887
where she gets to
have the pleasure.
906
00:45:56,521 --> 00:45:59,157
She's not the one
just giving pleasure.
907
00:46:00,058 --> 00:46:03,394
- How women are satisfied,
what that looks like,
908
00:46:03,494 --> 00:46:06,464
how that works in real life,
909
00:46:06,564 --> 00:46:08,533
like, it's still a mystery,
I think, to so many people.
910
00:46:14,405 --> 00:46:16,041
(singer vocalizing)
911
00:46:18,743 --> 00:46:19,777
- [Lover] Tell me
what you think.
912
00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:26,952
- Think about all the movies
913
00:46:27,052 --> 00:46:28,353
where men would be having
an important conversation-
914
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,122
- Here's to old friends.
915
00:46:31,222 --> 00:46:32,390
- and hot women would just
be sitting at the table
916
00:46:32,457 --> 00:46:33,959
while it's happening just,
like,
917
00:46:34,025 --> 00:46:35,493
kind of just there
as decoration.
918
00:46:35,894 --> 00:46:38,629
- This round's on me.
919
00:46:39,064 --> 00:46:41,099
- [Joey] The way in
which women can just be
920
00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:45,036
kind of present but
unnecessary.
921
00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:49,007
- You be the man,
and you be the woman.
922
00:46:49,107 --> 00:46:52,077
- You had to cast
those two girls,
923
00:46:52,143 --> 00:46:56,014
and they had to sit there
fake fucking all day,
924
00:46:56,114 --> 00:46:58,549
and it's kind of
a bummer (laughs).
925
00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:01,452
- I think it really does
damage to girls in particular.
926
00:47:01,552 --> 00:47:06,424
That's what bothers me,
girls feeling that they have
927
00:47:06,491 --> 00:47:09,861
to behave a certain way
and look a certain way.
928
00:47:12,463 --> 00:47:14,465
Without even consciously
realizing it,
929
00:47:14,565 --> 00:47:18,069
they will just assume
that they are less than.
930
00:47:19,304 --> 00:47:21,940
That they don't
quite count as much.
931
00:47:23,474 --> 00:47:27,946
- The more that we
perpetuate and condone women
932
00:47:28,046 --> 00:47:30,248
as being merely sex objects,
933
00:47:30,348 --> 00:47:34,219
the more readily boys
grow into men thinking
934
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:36,787
that that's how women
wanna be treated.
935
00:47:37,755 --> 00:47:38,489
It's in every movie and TV
show they've ever watched.
936
00:47:40,926 --> 00:47:42,560
(dramatic music continues)
937
00:47:47,899 --> 00:47:50,035
(footsteps plodding)
938
00:47:51,903 --> 00:47:52,470
(passenger whistling)
939
00:47:54,839 --> 00:47:55,573
(passenger whistling)
940
00:48:08,586 --> 00:48:11,322
- Actors who are starting
out are used in these films
941
00:48:11,422 --> 00:48:13,858
that ask for nudity
and sex scenes
942
00:48:13,959 --> 00:48:16,727
because they don't know how
to advocate for themselves,
943
00:48:16,827 --> 00:48:18,396
or they don't have the power
to advocate for themselves.
944
00:48:18,496 --> 00:48:22,533
An A-list actor who's
asked to do a nude scene,
945
00:48:22,633 --> 00:48:24,402
they can have a body double.
946
00:48:24,502 --> 00:48:25,703
They get to say, "The
light has to be dim,
947
00:48:25,803 --> 00:48:28,673
and the actor can only
touch me from here to here."
948
00:48:28,773 --> 00:48:31,409
It's like I have never had
949
00:48:31,509 --> 00:48:34,112
that much
protection in a film,
950
00:48:34,212 --> 00:48:36,647
but I've done nudity a lot.
951
00:48:36,747 --> 00:48:39,017
(laughs) Like, I've
done sex scenes a lot.
952
00:48:39,117 --> 00:48:40,518
It's like, "Oh, you
have to pay your dues,
953
00:48:40,618 --> 00:48:42,453
and you just have to
be grateful
954
00:48:42,553 --> 00:48:43,454
that you're here at all."
955
00:48:50,095 --> 00:48:51,997
- I'm not some great,
fabulous beauty.
956
00:48:52,063 --> 00:48:54,132
When I walk into a room,
people don't turn around
957
00:48:54,232 --> 00:48:54,966
and go, like,
"Who's that girl?
958
00:48:55,033 --> 00:48:56,067
Put her in the picture."
959
00:48:58,369 --> 00:49:01,839
- I started taking classes at
James Franco's acting school.
960
00:49:02,507 --> 00:49:06,011
When James took a chance
on me, I was so grateful.
961
00:49:09,547 --> 00:49:13,584
The way that I got hired
for "The Long Home" was
962
00:49:13,684 --> 00:49:16,154
by getting a text
message from James.
963
00:49:16,254 --> 00:49:17,055
(camera clicking)
He said,
964
00:49:17,155 --> 00:49:18,623
"I want you to be in my movie.
965
00:49:18,723 --> 00:49:20,125
Nudity will be required.
966
00:49:20,225 --> 00:49:21,092
You're playing a prostitute.
967
00:49:21,192 --> 00:49:22,293
Do you wanna do it?"
968
00:49:22,393 --> 00:49:23,528
(camera clicking)
And I said,
969
00:49:23,628 --> 00:49:26,631
"Absolutely, like, no
questions asked, yes."
970
00:49:27,398 --> 00:49:27,632
(dramatic music continues)
971
00:49:32,303 --> 00:49:35,706
- Hey, Candy, they want you.
972
00:49:38,409 --> 00:49:40,845
- And then, things started to
sort of get a little tricky
973
00:49:40,945 --> 00:49:44,115
because there were some scenes
that were added that weren't
974
00:49:44,215 --> 00:49:46,351
in the script that
required nudity,
975
00:49:48,253 --> 00:49:49,520
and one actress
didn't wanna do it.
976
00:49:53,291 --> 00:49:55,160
The next thing I know,
she's on a plane back to LA,
977
00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:56,727
and she's not in the movie.
978
00:49:56,827 --> 00:50:00,198
And I realized, if I
do something like that,
979
00:50:00,298 --> 00:50:01,566
if I say, "I'm
uncomfortable with this,
980
00:50:01,632 --> 00:50:04,202
I don't wanna do this,"
I'll lose my job.
981
00:50:11,209 --> 00:50:12,343
- Sarah Scott
is an actress
982
00:50:12,443 --> 00:50:14,379
whose most recent work
includes
983
00:50:14,479 --> 00:50:17,248
an appearance on the Seth
McFarland show "The Orville,"
984
00:50:17,348 --> 00:50:18,749
and she played Courtney Love
in the film
985
00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:19,617
"Soaked in Bleach."
986
00:50:19,717 --> 00:50:20,985
Thank you for
having the courage
987
00:50:21,086 --> 00:50:22,687
to come in and talk to us.
988
00:50:23,588 --> 00:50:25,990
This is an incident that
happened in May of '18, 2018.
989
00:50:26,091 --> 00:50:29,026
- Mm-hmm, it's an
independent TV pilot.
990
00:50:29,127 --> 00:50:31,129
It was the last
scene of the day.
991
00:50:32,263 --> 00:50:35,133
(phone buttons clicking)
992
00:50:36,201 --> 00:50:38,103
I remember being
really cold that night
993
00:50:38,203 --> 00:50:40,405
and made mention of it.
994
00:50:41,406 --> 00:50:44,275
My scene partner
cuddled up to me
995
00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:46,077
and said he would
keep me warm.
996
00:50:47,678 --> 00:50:49,980
Knowing that we were
about to start kissing,
997
00:50:50,081 --> 00:50:51,182
I just kind of went with that.
998
00:50:51,282 --> 00:50:52,417
That was fine.
999
00:50:52,517 --> 00:50:54,619
He cuddled up to me, and
didn't think much of it.
1000
00:50:57,688 --> 00:51:01,292
At that point, he took
my hand under the covers
1001
00:51:01,392 --> 00:51:05,663
and brought it over
to his erection.
1002
00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:11,336
(characters breathing heavily)
1003
00:51:17,942 --> 00:51:19,310
I pulled my hand back
1004
00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:20,811
and looked back over my
shoulder, like,
1005
00:51:21,879 --> 00:51:22,780
And he just said, "Sorry."
1006
00:51:26,717 --> 00:51:28,253
(Sarah S. sighs)
1007
00:51:28,353 --> 00:51:29,754
I've thought a lot about this.
1008
00:51:30,455 --> 00:51:31,656
I'm not upset with myself
1009
00:51:31,722 --> 00:51:32,790
that I didn't do
something in the moment.
1010
00:51:32,890 --> 00:51:36,060
I'm very well aware
that that's very common.
1011
00:51:36,794 --> 00:51:40,465
A lot of the women I've spoken
to don't ever say anything,
1012
00:51:40,531 --> 00:51:45,102
and I think being in a
professional setting,
1013
00:51:45,203 --> 00:51:47,238
I also just wanted
to be a professional
1014
00:51:47,338 --> 00:51:49,540
and keep going and
finish the day off.
1015
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,841
- Cut, terrific.
1016
00:51:55,513 --> 00:51:59,550
- And so, after the
day had wrapped up,
1017
00:51:59,650 --> 00:52:02,086
and I was getting ready
to leave for the night,
1018
00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:05,790
my co-star walks
through my dressing room
1019
00:52:05,890 --> 00:52:09,394
and starts telling me
that he's got a hard on.
1020
00:52:09,494 --> 00:52:11,562
He's gotta go jerk
off in the bathroom.
1021
00:52:12,297 --> 00:52:14,799
When I turned around, he
had taken out his penis
1022
00:52:14,899 --> 00:52:17,168
and started to masturbate
in front of me,
1023
00:52:17,268 --> 00:52:18,369
two feet in front of me,
1024
00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,171
and that's when I left.
1025
00:52:20,971 --> 00:52:24,409
- So, he did, however,
in the "LA Times," give
1026
00:52:24,509 --> 00:52:26,511
a statement saying that
he was apologizing.
1027
00:52:26,611 --> 00:52:29,214
He said he admitted
that he had put
1028
00:52:29,314 --> 00:52:31,316
your hand on his penis
during a sex scene,
1029
00:52:31,416 --> 00:52:32,750
but he said you were
sexually aggressive.
1030
00:52:34,952 --> 00:52:39,224
- It was really disturbing
to see what a convincing case
1031
00:52:40,391 --> 00:52:43,761
he made in playing
this sort of doe-eyed,
1032
00:52:43,861 --> 00:52:46,531
innocent, embarrassed,
1033
00:52:46,631 --> 00:52:48,766
"Oops, you know, I
misread the situation,"
1034
00:52:49,567 --> 00:52:51,001
and then even used the words
1035
00:52:51,536 --> 00:52:53,771
that, "I just mistook this
for a perk of our jobs."
1036
00:52:54,605 --> 00:52:58,008
It just became so clear
to me that I was dealing
1037
00:52:58,108 --> 00:53:00,911
with someone who
was a a predator.
1038
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:02,747
(somber music)
1039
00:53:04,815 --> 00:53:08,553
I've been a proud union
member for over 15 years.
1040
00:53:08,653 --> 00:53:11,256
That's how
I have my health insurance
1041
00:53:11,356 --> 00:53:12,890
and support my family.
1042
00:53:13,524 --> 00:53:14,825
So, the way that I
see myself is
1043
00:53:14,925 --> 00:53:18,195
that I'm kind of a
blue-collar working actor.
1044
00:53:19,630 --> 00:53:24,134
- Okay, ladies, I
wanna see ya dance,
1045
00:53:24,235 --> 00:53:25,670
and I wanna see ya smile.
1046
00:53:28,306 --> 00:53:29,507
And you.
1047
00:53:29,607 --> 00:53:31,075
- I started to get this
feeling like I was
1048
00:53:31,175 --> 00:53:32,176
the first actress
1049
00:53:32,243 --> 00:53:34,211
to ever call the
union and say,
1050
00:53:34,279 --> 00:53:35,846
"Hey, I've been sexually
violated at work."
1051
00:53:38,015 --> 00:53:39,284
- It's interesting because
1052
00:53:39,384 --> 00:53:41,419
the SAG-AFTRA
basic agreement is
1053
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:44,154
800 pages or
something like that,
1054
00:53:44,255 --> 00:53:46,257
and nudity is, like, a page,
1055
00:53:46,357 --> 00:53:47,057
if that.
- Hmm.
1056
00:53:47,157 --> 00:53:47,858
It's like-
1057
00:53:47,958 --> 00:53:49,126
- Yeah.
- Wow.
1058
00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:49,927
It's, like, I
literally have it-
1059
00:53:49,994 --> 00:53:51,128
- Wow.
- Right here on,
1060
00:53:51,195 --> 00:53:51,929
it's half a page.
1061
00:53:52,029 --> 00:53:52,997
It's this.
- Wow.
1062
00:53:53,063 --> 00:53:55,032
(Amanda laughs)
- And sexual harassment is
1063
00:53:55,132 --> 00:53:57,001
not mentioned in 800 pages.
1064
00:53:57,067 --> 00:53:57,768
- Really?
- Yeah.
1065
00:53:57,868 --> 00:53:58,636
- [Sarah S.] Mm-hmm.
1066
00:53:58,736 --> 00:53:59,370
- [Amanda] Yeah
- Interesting.
1067
00:53:59,470 --> 00:54:00,605
- Yeah.
- Hmm.
1068
00:54:00,705 --> 00:54:01,772
- The situations, like,
that I've been in,
1069
00:54:01,872 --> 00:54:02,940
I think that, like, the
gentleman, you know,
1070
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,642
whatever happened, it
wouldn't have happened
1071
00:54:04,742 --> 00:54:08,746
had I been more famous or
more powerful than than he.
1072
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,385
I was told by someone in the
legal department verbatim
1073
00:54:14,485 --> 00:54:18,389
that, quote, I "probably
wouldn't be satisfied
1074
00:54:19,424 --> 00:54:21,392
with the result of
the hearing."
1075
00:54:21,492 --> 00:54:24,929
And I interpreted
that as basically
1076
00:54:24,995 --> 00:54:26,297
nothing's gonna happen.
1077
00:54:27,097 --> 00:54:29,900
(somber music continues)
1078
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,902
When the "LA Times"
article came out,
1079
00:54:32,002 --> 00:54:37,742
a lot of actresses reached
out to me just telling me,
1080
00:54:39,377 --> 00:54:41,011
(sniffs) you know,
how proud they were
1081
00:54:41,078 --> 00:54:41,879
and how,
1082
00:54:45,149 --> 00:54:48,018
how many actresses had
similar experiences
1083
00:54:48,118 --> 00:54:49,286
but never said anything,
1084
00:54:51,322 --> 00:54:52,923
and that made my stomach turn,
1085
00:54:52,990 --> 00:54:55,893
just the realization that this
is such a widespread problem
1086
00:54:57,261 --> 00:54:58,396
in this industry.
1087
00:55:00,398 --> 00:55:03,000
(singers vocalizing)
1088
00:55:11,909 --> 00:55:14,645
- What does it mean
for boys and girls
1089
00:55:14,712 --> 00:55:16,981
to grow up in a culture
where they see men
1090
00:55:17,081 --> 00:55:18,883
being aggressive in
film to get the girl?
1091
00:55:20,851 --> 00:55:23,421
They pull women into
these passionate kisses.
1092
00:55:24,655 --> 00:55:26,491
- Stop it (inhales deeply).
1093
00:55:26,924 --> 00:55:29,159
- Maybe she resists a little
bit, like, right at first,
1094
00:55:29,259 --> 00:55:31,396
but he can kiss her
into submission.
1095
00:55:31,962 --> 00:55:33,731
(dramatic music)
1096
00:55:36,567 --> 00:55:39,003
- Wait a minute,
wait a minute.
1097
00:55:43,107 --> 00:55:44,942
- [Stephane] Now that's
a really common scene.
1098
00:55:54,118 --> 00:55:55,486
- [Linda] Hollywood
certainly knows
1099
00:55:55,586 --> 00:55:56,887
how to do violence
very, very well,
1100
00:55:59,023 --> 00:56:01,592
much better than it
knows how to do sex.
1101
00:56:03,761 --> 00:56:06,964
When sex and violence
come together, it's rape.
1102
00:56:08,533 --> 00:56:10,234
- (breathing heavily) No, no.
1103
00:56:11,035 --> 00:56:13,337
- There's so many
rape scenes in movies
1104
00:56:13,438 --> 00:56:14,872
because a lot of
times, you know,
1105
00:56:14,972 --> 00:56:16,641
scripts are written,
and they imagine
1106
00:56:16,741 --> 00:56:18,543
that this is the only way
1107
00:56:18,609 --> 00:56:21,446
a female character can get
strong is if she's raped
1108
00:56:21,546 --> 00:56:24,014
for no apparent reason
other than they think
1109
00:56:24,114 --> 00:56:26,551
something bad needs to happen
to her so she can rise up
1110
00:56:26,651 --> 00:56:28,819
and go murder all the
people in revenge.
1111
00:56:32,490 --> 00:56:34,024
What kind of message
does that send out?
1112
00:56:35,325 --> 00:56:36,360
- My name is Buck, (laughs)
1113
00:56:36,461 --> 00:56:40,064
and I'm here to fuck.
(machine beeping)
1114
00:56:40,164 --> 00:56:44,569
- Your name is Buck, and
you came here to fuck.
1115
00:56:44,802 --> 00:56:46,036
Right?
1116
00:56:46,136 --> 00:56:47,738
- Wait a minute, wait.
1117
00:56:47,838 --> 00:56:48,539
(door thudding)
(orderly yelling)
1118
00:56:49,073 --> 00:56:50,107
- There's some hatred
for women going on
1119
00:56:50,207 --> 00:56:52,810
when you have to brutalize
people, you know,
1120
00:56:52,877 --> 00:56:55,179
and treat them as
subhuman but then
1121
00:56:55,746 --> 00:56:59,016
get the glory that you create
strong female characters.
1122
00:56:59,316 --> 00:57:00,818
That's not strong women.
1123
00:57:00,918 --> 00:57:02,520
Those are brutalized
women that have to survive --
1124
00:57:06,824 --> 00:57:08,459
- and look good while doing so.
1125
00:57:10,227 --> 00:57:11,729
(dramatic music)
1126
00:57:14,732 --> 00:57:16,100
- In the age of the Internet,
1127
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,402
actors have to make
these decision of,
1128
00:57:18,503 --> 00:57:21,706
"If I'm nude, it's
going to get GIF'd
1129
00:57:21,806 --> 00:57:24,775
and played on a loop."
1130
00:57:24,842 --> 00:57:26,877
You can't regulate
that anymore.
1131
00:57:29,547 --> 00:57:31,415
(fingers tapping)
1132
00:57:31,516 --> 00:57:34,919
The nudity will get repurposed
to do all sorts of things.
1133
00:57:35,019 --> 00:57:37,988
They'll put other
people's faces on.
1134
00:57:40,491 --> 00:57:42,126
(laptop clicks)
1135
00:57:42,226 --> 00:57:44,228
It's kind of not what
they signed up for.
1136
00:57:44,328 --> 00:57:46,597
(dramatic music continues)
1137
00:57:46,697 --> 00:57:48,899
- You have to literally
go and fight them
1138
00:57:48,999 --> 00:57:51,536
on every single website
these things appear on,
1139
00:57:51,636 --> 00:57:53,070
and even if you win,
1140
00:57:53,137 --> 00:57:55,540
the next day, it shows up
on a different website.
1141
00:57:56,874 --> 00:57:59,777
- The producer basically
responded by saying,
1142
00:57:59,877 --> 00:58:00,745
"This is just what happens.
1143
00:58:00,845 --> 00:58:02,647
This is part of
being an actor."
1144
00:58:03,047 --> 00:58:05,916
(pensive music)
1145
00:58:06,016 --> 00:58:07,885
- When "Jennifer's
Body" was coming out,
1146
00:58:07,985 --> 00:58:11,221
we were at a new point
where we were seeing
1147
00:58:11,321 --> 00:58:16,493
how social media can be used
as a tool to shape perception.
1148
00:58:18,763 --> 00:58:22,867
In the film, I wanted
to comment on the tropes
1149
00:58:22,967 --> 00:58:26,537
around how we look at
girls and women's bodies
1150
00:58:26,637 --> 00:58:28,472
looking back at late '70s,
1151
00:58:28,539 --> 00:58:30,007
early '80s horror slasher films.
1152
00:58:30,074 --> 00:58:33,978
But what that requires
is using the tropes.
1153
00:58:34,078 --> 00:58:34,478
(vampire howling)
1154
00:58:34,545 --> 00:58:36,781
(victim yelling)
1155
00:58:36,881 --> 00:58:41,251
There was a decision on
the part of the studio,
1156
00:58:42,620 --> 00:58:44,655
I think, to market
the film to young boys
1157
00:58:44,722 --> 00:58:47,892
as opposed to young women
1158
00:58:49,126 --> 00:58:51,862
as if to promise
something with Megan Fox
1159
00:58:51,962 --> 00:58:53,631
that they were
never gonna get.
1160
00:58:54,565 --> 00:58:56,834
(crowd cheering)
1161
00:58:56,934 --> 00:58:58,002
I was shocked by the reaction
1162
00:58:58,068 --> 00:58:59,670
and the way social
media kind of worked
1163
00:58:59,737 --> 00:59:03,140
so quickly against the film.
1164
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,209
(keys clattering)
1165
00:59:05,309 --> 00:59:09,379
(dramatic music continues)
1166
00:59:09,446 --> 00:59:12,282
(messages bleeping)
1167
00:59:12,382 --> 00:59:14,719
(keys clattering)
1168
00:59:14,819 --> 00:59:17,922
(message bleeping)
1169
00:59:19,924 --> 00:59:23,060
There was so much
adolescent angst
1170
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,931
about some lack (laughing)
of male relevance
1171
00:59:26,997 --> 00:59:27,932
(dramatic music continues)
1172
00:59:28,032 --> 00:59:30,000
and I think, since
then, we've seen
1173
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:34,605
how much warfare is
waged against women
1174
00:59:34,705 --> 00:59:37,675
by using their
bodies against them.
1175
00:59:41,612 --> 00:59:46,116
- Now, uh, pull your dress
up and let me see your legs.
1176
00:59:47,852 --> 00:59:50,487
- The Hollywood machine is
something to be survived.
1177
00:59:50,587 --> 00:59:54,725
(light clicking)
1178
00:59:54,825 --> 00:59:57,161
- [Boss] Turn around a second.
1179
00:59:57,227 --> 00:59:58,362
- Something wrong?
1180
00:59:59,263 --> 01:00:01,265
- Matter of fact, everything
is very, very right.
1181
01:00:03,668 --> 01:00:06,971
- It's very common
to go to hotel rooms
1182
01:00:07,071 --> 01:00:07,805
and to be asked to audition.
1183
01:00:07,905 --> 01:00:11,909
(dramatic music continues)
1184
01:00:12,009 --> 01:00:13,644
That was kind of a thing
back when I started.
1185
01:00:13,744 --> 01:00:14,478
- He's ready for you.
1186
01:00:14,578 --> 01:00:16,180
- Thank you.
1187
01:00:18,382 --> 01:00:19,183
(door clicking)
1188
01:00:19,283 --> 01:00:20,651
- I was raised to believe
(laughing)
1189
01:00:20,718 --> 01:00:22,352
that you never wanted
1190
01:00:22,419 --> 01:00:23,553
to make a man uncomfortable.
1191
01:00:23,654 --> 01:00:25,322
(shoe clicking)
1192
01:00:25,389 --> 01:00:26,090
You didn't wanna make
1193
01:00:26,190 --> 01:00:27,424
him feel like
(bather yelling)
1194
01:00:27,524 --> 01:00:28,893
he had done something wrong.
1195
01:00:30,194 --> 01:00:30,995
- He grabbed me,
1196
01:00:34,198 --> 01:00:35,032
tried to kiss me.
1197
01:00:36,667 --> 01:00:39,937
- So, if he advances on
you, you know, your thing is
1198
01:00:40,037 --> 01:00:42,673
to kind of giggle and ease
yourself out of there.
1199
01:00:42,773 --> 01:00:45,475
(character laughs)
1200
01:00:45,575 --> 01:00:48,212
- After I got blacklisted,
I started being harassed
1201
01:00:48,278 --> 01:00:52,149
behind the scenes
by my monster.
1202
01:00:52,249 --> 01:00:53,150
(dramatic music)
1203
01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:57,287
- He, he has
detectives on staff.
1204
01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:00,657
(light clicking)
1205
01:01:00,758 --> 01:01:03,928
(crew chattering indistinctly)
1206
01:01:04,028 --> 01:01:07,031
- Harvey Weinstein
is not the only one.
1207
01:01:08,565 --> 01:01:10,434
We have situations now where
1208
01:01:11,702 --> 01:01:12,903
it's taken a while for a client
1209
01:01:13,003 --> 01:01:15,105
to be willing to come
out against somebody,
1210
01:01:16,173 --> 01:01:19,243
and you know, the
studio makes excuses.
1211
01:01:21,611 --> 01:01:23,280
- I can file a complaint for
you if that's what you want,
1212
01:01:23,380 --> 01:01:27,852
but I think you know
how it would come off.
1213
01:01:28,786 --> 01:01:31,021
- You see all the people that
protect Harvey, this predator,
1214
01:01:31,121 --> 01:01:34,058
and the many, many predators
there are in this town
1215
01:01:34,158 --> 01:01:36,927
that are very big
guys in the business.
1216
01:01:37,027 --> 01:01:38,195
(crowd chattering
indistinctly)
1217
01:01:38,295 --> 01:01:40,697
- [Sarah T.K.] There
are so many other men.
1218
01:01:40,798 --> 01:01:41,631
(door slamming)
1219
01:01:41,732 --> 01:01:42,900
They're not Harvey Weinsteins,
1220
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,201
but I don't wanna wait
1221
01:01:44,301 --> 01:01:45,870
until these people are
all Harvey Weinstein.
1222
01:01:45,970 --> 01:01:48,138
I want them to
stop doing it now.
1223
01:01:48,205 --> 01:01:50,107
(secretary screaming)
- Dorothy, please.
1224
01:01:50,207 --> 01:01:50,975
Look, I want you.
1225
01:01:51,075 --> 01:01:53,343
- Men feel entitled-
1226
01:01:53,443 --> 01:01:54,711
(light clicking)
1227
01:01:54,779 --> 01:01:56,113
- [Crew] You probably just
wanna try to do (indistinct).
1228
01:01:56,213 --> 01:01:57,581
- [Crew] Okay.
(case clicking)
1229
01:01:57,681 --> 01:02:00,450
- by a lot of stuff that's
rolling around in their heads
1230
01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:02,286
that has sexualized women
1231
01:02:02,352 --> 01:02:04,088
and embraced them as sexual
commodities to the extent
1232
01:02:04,188 --> 01:02:07,091
that they feel
comfortable doing that.
1233
01:02:07,191 --> 01:02:08,558
(dramatic music continues)
1234
01:02:08,658 --> 01:02:10,660
- If you're wearing
something, please get naked.
1235
01:02:10,761 --> 01:02:11,528
- I believe in only
two things,
1236
01:02:11,595 --> 01:02:13,630
the First Amendment and boobs.
1237
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:15,099
- She needs to drop a few.
1238
01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:16,400
- [Host] What do you
think about this?
1239
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:17,667
- Gretchen's beautiful.
1240
01:02:17,768 --> 01:02:18,568
- Ooh, beautiful,
you look beautiful.
1241
01:02:18,668 --> 01:02:19,837
- I love the women's movement,
1242
01:02:19,937 --> 01:02:21,071
especially when
walking behind it.
1243
01:02:21,171 --> 01:02:22,572
- You know, when you're
sold as a sex symbol,
1244
01:02:22,672 --> 01:02:25,009
it's like the message that men
out there in the world get is
1245
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:28,779
that they can all touch
you and that they own you.
1246
01:02:28,879 --> 01:02:30,114
- It makes her a slut, right?
1247
01:02:30,214 --> 01:02:32,616
- He began running
his hands over my body
1248
01:02:32,716 --> 01:02:34,952
and grinding into me.
1249
01:02:35,052 --> 01:02:36,620
- [Rose] Because
you've turned them.
1250
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:37,654
- Nice, nice.
1251
01:02:37,754 --> 01:02:39,189
- [Rose] You've
made them do it.
1252
01:02:39,824 --> 01:02:40,825
- [Donald Trump]
You can do anything.
1253
01:02:40,925 --> 01:02:41,892
- [Interviewer]
Whatever you want.
1254
01:02:41,992 --> 01:02:43,060
- [Donald Trump] Grab
'em by the pussy.
1255
01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,261
(interviewer laughing)
1256
01:02:44,361 --> 01:02:45,229
- [Crowd] Oh.
- You can do anything.
1257
01:02:45,329 --> 01:02:45,662
- [Bystander] Yes.
1258
01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:47,197
(crowd cheering)
1259
01:02:47,297 --> 01:02:49,834
- It really didn't feel that
there was a system in place
1260
01:02:49,934 --> 01:02:52,102
for this kind of a complaint.
1261
01:02:52,202 --> 01:02:54,839
- [Senator] How sure
can this committee be
1262
01:02:54,939 --> 01:02:57,341
on the accuracy of
your statements?
1263
01:02:57,407 --> 01:02:58,375
(body thudding)
1264
01:02:58,475 --> 01:03:00,377
- What you wanna do is
destroy this guy's life.
1265
01:03:00,477 --> 01:03:01,445
(gate clanging)
1266
01:03:01,545 --> 01:03:03,547
- Are you interested
in writing a book?
1267
01:03:03,647 --> 01:03:04,514
(body thudding)
1268
01:03:04,614 --> 01:03:05,816
- Nobody has made amends.
1269
01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:07,784
- [Bystander] Shame.
1270
01:03:07,885 --> 01:03:09,319
- Nobody has apologized.
(bell ringing)
1271
01:03:09,419 --> 01:03:10,821
Nobody has taken ownership-
- [Crowd] Whore, whore.
1272
01:03:10,888 --> 01:03:13,023
- [Sarah T.K.] of
having done this to us.
1273
01:03:14,992 --> 01:03:15,960
(hands thudding)
- Categorically
1274
01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:17,995
and unequivocally
deny the allegation
1275
01:03:18,095 --> 01:03:19,463
against me by Dr. Ford.
1276
01:03:19,563 --> 01:03:22,332
- I have not been guilty
of sexual misconduct.
1277
01:03:22,432 --> 01:03:24,001
- The allegation is
completely false.
1278
01:03:24,101 --> 01:03:25,635
(character grunting)
1279
01:03:25,735 --> 01:03:26,403
- These allegations are false.
1280
01:03:26,503 --> 01:03:26,803
- It's just not true.
1281
01:03:26,904 --> 01:03:29,006
- Not true.
1282
01:03:29,106 --> 01:03:30,474
(dramatic music continues)
1283
01:03:30,574 --> 01:03:32,209
- [Sarah T.K.] It can't
just be on our shoulders,
1284
01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:35,579
and we can't continue to
be gaslit by these people.
1285
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:38,582
We're made to feel like we're
crazy for being uncomfortable.
1286
01:03:39,783 --> 01:03:40,885
- [Speaker] No, no.
1287
01:03:40,985 --> 01:03:42,019
- Nasty one.
- I undressed her.
1288
01:03:42,086 --> 01:03:43,153
- Where things go.
- In fact, he never did.
1289
01:03:43,253 --> 01:03:43,720
- [Speaker] He would
sit here and watch it.
1290
01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:44,821
- I have no idea
1291
01:03:44,922 --> 01:03:45,856
who this woman is.
- It is today.
1292
01:03:45,956 --> 01:03:46,356
- Are you a scorned woman?
1293
01:03:51,195 --> 01:03:52,062
- All right, you
guys ready to move
1294
01:03:52,162 --> 01:03:54,198
into a little bit
of rehearsal?
1295
01:03:54,298 --> 01:03:56,967
You're gonna be
taking off her shirt.
1296
01:03:57,067 --> 01:03:58,335
- Okay.
- And from what I understand,
1297
01:03:58,435 --> 01:03:59,303
it's a pretty wide neck,
1298
01:03:59,369 --> 01:04:00,537
- Yeah.
- so you shouldn't have
1299
01:04:00,604 --> 01:04:03,607
any issue just coming
up and pulling it over-
1300
01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:05,375
- Mm-hmm.
- Jennifer's head, yeah.
1301
01:04:05,475 --> 01:04:07,611
And then, as we discussed,
you will take your bra off.
1302
01:04:07,711 --> 01:04:08,946
- Mm-hmm.
1303
01:04:09,046 --> 01:04:10,214
- You know, you can-
- Yeah.
1304
01:04:10,314 --> 01:04:11,715
- position yourself on
the edge of the bed here.
1305
01:04:11,781 --> 01:04:12,682
- [Jennifer] Yep.
- Right.
1306
01:04:12,782 --> 01:04:14,618
Maybe you could
place Dan's hand
1307
01:04:14,718 --> 01:04:15,452
somewhere on-
- Yeah.
1308
01:04:15,552 --> 01:04:16,553
- your upper inner thigh
1309
01:04:16,653 --> 01:04:17,654
on the left leg.
- So, like, maybe right here-
1310
01:04:17,754 --> 01:04:19,456
- [Dan] There?
- would be fine.
1311
01:04:19,556 --> 01:04:19,957
- [Dan] And then here.
1312
01:04:20,057 --> 01:04:21,858
- [Jennifer] Yeah.
1313
01:04:23,127 --> 01:04:24,861
- Okay, move your
head a little bit.
1314
01:04:24,929 --> 01:04:29,499
And you can cheat it so that
your head is not so turned.
1315
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:30,534
Yeah.
1316
01:04:30,634 --> 01:04:31,401
- [Dan] And then I'll rest it
1317
01:04:31,468 --> 01:04:32,836
right here.
- and I'll be like this.
1318
01:04:32,937 --> 01:04:34,038
- [Sarah S.] Great.
- [Dan] Mm-hmm.
1319
01:04:34,138 --> 01:04:35,039
- Love to see you
touching his head,
1320
01:04:35,139 --> 01:04:36,740
tugging on his hair a little.
1321
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,474
- [Jennifer] Okay.
1322
01:04:39,143 --> 01:04:40,244
- [Sarah S.] How does
that feel for both of you?
1323
01:04:40,344 --> 01:04:41,445
- [Jennifer] I'm fine.
- [Dan] Yeah.
1324
01:04:41,545 --> 01:04:42,312
- Okay.
1325
01:04:42,412 --> 01:04:42,879
Okay, great.
1326
01:04:42,980 --> 01:04:46,984
(funky upbeat music)
1327
01:04:51,255 --> 01:04:55,025
- On season one, we had
a moment where there were
1328
01:04:55,125 --> 01:04:58,095
some criticisms of our
lead actor, James Franco,
1329
01:04:58,195 --> 01:05:00,097
for stuff that had
happened not on our set
1330
01:05:00,197 --> 01:05:03,333
but had happened on indie
films that he had worked on.
1331
01:05:04,401 --> 01:05:07,304
But nonetheless, I
felt the need
1332
01:05:07,404 --> 01:05:09,439
to ask all the
principal cast members,
1333
01:05:09,539 --> 01:05:11,508
"Did you have any
problems on our set?"
1334
01:05:11,608 --> 01:05:13,477
Emily Meade rather
bravely said,
1335
01:05:13,543 --> 01:05:14,478
"Things didn't go
right on set.
1336
01:05:14,578 --> 01:05:16,981
One day, I'll tell
you about it."
1337
01:05:18,082 --> 01:05:18,949
(gentle pensive music)
1338
01:05:19,049 --> 01:05:19,749
(door clicking shut)
1339
01:05:19,816 --> 01:05:20,985
- [Bystander] Whoa, baby.
1340
01:05:21,051 --> 01:05:23,687
- I was playing a
prostitute turned porn star.
1341
01:05:26,923 --> 01:05:28,325
I was 26.
1342
01:05:30,627 --> 01:05:32,596
And I was starting to
realize how much I was having
1343
01:05:32,696 --> 01:05:36,466
to constantly dissociate
to, like, show up to my job.
1344
01:05:37,667 --> 01:05:40,437
- [Actor] Oh, that's,
yeah, oh, yeah.
1345
01:05:40,504 --> 01:05:43,007
- There were circumstances
where I wound up having to do
1346
01:05:43,073 --> 01:05:45,209
a very intimate sex scene
1347
01:05:45,309 --> 01:05:49,179
with a completely
random background actor.
1348
01:05:49,879 --> 01:05:53,917
I was not willing
to be on the show
1349
01:05:54,018 --> 01:05:55,319
with things the way they were,
1350
01:05:55,385 --> 01:05:59,123
wanting to protect the
women involved in this show.
1351
01:05:59,223 --> 01:06:01,858
- Emily basically said,
"We can do this better,"
1352
01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:02,993
and then it was
our job to listen.
1353
01:06:03,093 --> 01:06:04,428
- The best thing I
could come up with was
1354
01:06:04,494 --> 01:06:07,231
that there should be
a person who is there,
1355
01:06:07,331 --> 01:06:11,501
who their sole job is
to facilitate, protect,
1356
01:06:11,568 --> 01:06:13,770
and just be there for sex
scenes
1357
01:06:13,870 --> 01:06:15,305
like a stunt coordinator.
1358
01:06:15,405 --> 01:06:16,973
(gunshots blasting)
(victim grunting)
1359
01:06:17,074 --> 01:06:17,874
(gun thudding)
(body thudding)
1360
01:06:17,941 --> 01:06:20,077
- God.
1361
01:06:20,177 --> 01:06:21,478
- There are entire
departments of people
1362
01:06:21,578 --> 01:06:23,180
who are there to make
sure nobody gets hurt
1363
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,514
when we're
simulating violence.
1364
01:06:25,615 --> 01:06:26,616
(wheels screeching)
1365
01:06:26,716 --> 01:06:27,551
But we hadn't, to this
point, hired somebody
1366
01:06:27,651 --> 01:06:31,055
whose sole area
of expertise was,
1367
01:06:31,155 --> 01:06:33,057
"Let's make sure
nobody gets, you know,
1368
01:06:33,157 --> 01:06:35,459
emotionally hurt or
physically hurt, you know,
1369
01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:37,861
when we're
simulating intimacy."
1370
01:06:37,961 --> 01:06:40,630
(defiant music)
1371
01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:42,366
- I'm there to make
sure the actors are safe
1372
01:06:42,432 --> 01:06:45,169
but also to check
in and make sure
1373
01:06:45,235 --> 01:06:47,671
what is happening
on set is consensual
1374
01:06:47,771 --> 01:06:50,006
and what is happening
is what was agreed to.
1375
01:06:50,107 --> 01:06:51,675
- I don't wanna
disappoint anybody.
1376
01:06:53,677 --> 01:06:56,046
That was probably always
the hardest part for me,
1377
01:06:57,447 --> 01:06:58,615
having to, like, look
someone in the eyes,
1378
01:06:58,715 --> 01:07:00,384
a man specifically, and,
like, disappoint them
1379
01:07:00,484 --> 01:07:02,686
about what I'm willing
to do sexually.
1380
01:07:05,322 --> 01:07:07,023
She could go tell
the director, like,
1381
01:07:07,124 --> 01:07:09,359
"Emily's feeling a little
strange about this,"
1382
01:07:09,459 --> 01:07:12,096
warn the director of that
so they can roll their eyes
1383
01:07:12,196 --> 01:07:12,829
or have whatever private
(laughs)
1384
01:07:12,929 --> 01:07:13,930
reaction they want to,
1385
01:07:14,030 --> 01:07:15,065
and I don't have to see it
1386
01:07:15,132 --> 01:07:17,334
and (laughs) feel
insecure or embarrassed.
1387
01:07:17,434 --> 01:07:18,968
- Let's go, sweetheart.
1388
01:07:19,069 --> 01:07:19,669
(footsteps plodding)
1389
01:07:21,971 --> 01:07:24,508
- It was just the process
of having that conversation,
1390
01:07:24,574 --> 01:07:25,975
and feeling like I
had a choice,
1391
01:07:26,076 --> 01:07:28,178
and like I wasn't in a corner.
1392
01:07:28,278 --> 01:07:30,347
- All right, first
up is Lori and Andy.
1393
01:07:30,447 --> 01:07:31,848
- "The Deuce" wound up being
1394
01:07:31,948 --> 01:07:33,583
the first network
television show
1395
01:07:33,683 --> 01:07:35,152
to have an intimacy
coordinator,
1396
01:07:35,252 --> 01:07:36,720
and then HBO wound up being
1397
01:07:36,820 --> 01:07:38,021
the first network to have
1398
01:07:38,122 --> 01:07:39,756
network-wide intimacy
coordinators used.
1399
01:07:42,126 --> 01:07:42,992
- There are certain things
1400
01:07:43,059 --> 01:07:44,594
that might have been acceptable
1401
01:07:45,762 --> 01:07:48,465
five years ago, 10
years ago, 20 years ago
1402
01:07:48,532 --> 01:07:50,967
that are not acceptable now.
1403
01:07:51,067 --> 01:07:52,068
And I think it took Time's Up.
1404
01:07:52,169 --> 01:07:53,637
It took Me Too.
1405
01:07:53,737 --> 01:07:58,708
It took this entire
shift for people to look
1406
01:07:58,808 --> 01:08:02,446
at scenes like this and
say, "We can do better."
1407
01:08:02,546 --> 01:08:03,847
(dramatic music)
(glass shattering)
1408
01:08:03,912 --> 01:08:05,182
(bat thudding)
- You're gonna listen to me.
1409
01:08:05,282 --> 01:08:06,116
- Wait, hey, Dorothy.
(bat thudding)
1410
01:08:06,215 --> 01:08:08,585
- whether you like it or not.
1411
01:08:08,684 --> 01:08:09,519
(dramatic music)
1412
01:08:09,619 --> 01:08:14,224
- There's clearly
a deeply entrenched
1413
01:08:14,291 --> 01:08:17,161
terror of male privilege
(case rustling)
1414
01:08:17,227 --> 01:08:19,196
and power being taken away.
1415
01:08:20,697 --> 01:08:22,631
- I'm not gonna be stopped
by three dumb-witted broads.
1416
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:26,170
- I wanted to show
that you could
1417
01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:27,537
cut off the head of power
1418
01:08:27,637 --> 01:08:30,540
instead of biting at ankles,
that, if everybody is
1419
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,809
always kind of complaining
about the same thing,
1420
01:08:34,611 --> 01:08:36,845
maybe we can do
something about it.
1421
01:08:36,946 --> 01:08:39,683
(machines churning)
1422
01:08:41,050 --> 01:08:44,153
(dramatic music continues)
1423
01:08:44,254 --> 01:08:47,657
- I do feel optimistic,
1424
01:08:49,092 --> 01:08:51,195
but Hollywood is
definitely sexist,
1425
01:08:51,295 --> 01:08:56,300
definitely racist place,
1426
01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,369
and it's going to take a lot
1427
01:08:59,469 --> 01:09:04,508
to dismantle those systems.
1428
01:09:04,974 --> 01:09:07,311
- The Me Too movement
ushered in a greater level
1429
01:09:07,411 --> 01:09:10,514
of the magnifying glass.
1430
01:09:10,613 --> 01:09:14,149
That long-held
patriarchal power
1431
01:09:14,251 --> 01:09:15,785
in Hollywood was rendered
1432
01:09:15,885 --> 01:09:18,655
vulnerable really for
the very first time
1433
01:09:18,755 --> 01:09:20,390
in a very real way.
1434
01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:22,858
- Harvey Weinstein
surrendering to police-
1435
01:09:22,959 --> 01:09:23,960
- Leslie Moonves's-
- on sex crime charges.
1436
01:09:24,059 --> 01:09:25,829
- career at CBS came to an end
1437
01:09:25,894 --> 01:09:27,162
in September-
- Chief Roy Price has
1438
01:09:27,264 --> 01:09:28,365
been suspended
- after multiple women-
1439
01:09:28,465 --> 01:09:29,398
- in the wake of-
- came forward.
1440
01:09:29,499 --> 01:09:30,867
- sexual harassment
accusations from-
1441
01:09:30,967 --> 01:09:33,269
- James Franco snubbed by
the Oscars in the wake-
1442
01:09:33,370 --> 01:09:34,738
- The Screen Actors Guild
found actor Kip Pardue
1443
01:09:36,005 --> 01:09:38,207
guilty of serious misconduct.
1444
01:09:38,308 --> 01:09:39,476
(dramatic music)
1445
01:09:39,543 --> 01:09:40,844
(footsteps plodding)
1446
01:09:40,910 --> 01:09:42,246
(actor breathing heavily)
1447
01:09:42,346 --> 01:09:46,516
- I think that many films
have women in peril.
1448
01:09:47,984 --> 01:09:51,054
Some Prince Charming
has to come and save us,
1449
01:09:51,154 --> 01:09:52,522
(footsteps plodding)
1450
01:09:52,622 --> 01:09:56,426
and we come to believe
that we innately don't have
1451
01:09:56,526 --> 01:09:59,996
the power to save
ourselves, but we do.
1452
01:10:00,096 --> 01:10:01,431
(energetic music)
1453
01:10:01,531 --> 01:10:02,532
(character speaking
in foreign language)
1454
01:10:02,632 --> 01:10:03,867
- [Patti] Women are
finally finding a voice.
1455
01:10:09,539 --> 01:10:13,410
(energetic music continues)
1456
01:10:21,618 --> 01:10:25,355
- Before doing "Vida," I
hadn't experienced too much
1457
01:10:25,455 --> 01:10:28,091
in the roles of getting to
play an American like me,
1458
01:10:28,191 --> 01:10:29,859
a Latina like me.
1459
01:10:29,959 --> 01:10:30,727
(gate clanging)
1460
01:10:30,827 --> 01:10:32,028
(lover moaning)
1461
01:10:32,128 --> 01:10:36,933
It is by design that we
are seeing a woman pursue
1462
01:10:38,668 --> 01:10:41,237
her sexuality and pleasure in
a very unapologetic fashion.
1463
01:10:41,338 --> 01:10:43,707
(lips smacking)
1464
01:10:43,807 --> 01:10:45,575
- We haven't gotten a
chance to, us, like, create
1465
01:10:45,642 --> 01:10:47,577
complicated images
of ourselves,
1466
01:10:47,677 --> 01:10:50,714
and these girls I created
were, shitty, messy.
1467
01:10:50,814 --> 01:10:52,282
They made really
bad decisions.
1468
01:10:52,382 --> 01:10:55,952
(camera clicking)
1469
01:10:56,052 --> 01:10:57,454
Dominant culture gets to tell
1470
01:10:57,554 --> 01:10:58,888
all that, you
know, all the time.
1471
01:10:58,988 --> 01:11:00,056
(vocalist singing
in foreign language)
1472
01:11:00,156 --> 01:11:01,625
- When do we get to say it?
1473
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,828
(energetic music)
1474
01:11:04,928 --> 01:11:08,798
The sex scenes started
in the writer's room.
1475
01:11:08,898 --> 01:11:11,968
These girls, they knew
exactly how to get off,
1476
01:11:12,035 --> 01:11:13,202
what they wanted.
1477
01:11:13,303 --> 01:11:17,941
(vocalist singing
in foreign language)
1478
01:11:19,075 --> 01:11:19,909
- It progressed the story.
1479
01:11:20,009 --> 01:11:21,478
It wasn't just gratuitous.
1480
01:11:23,112 --> 01:11:26,650
- Tanya brought me into the
editing room just to make sure
1481
01:11:26,750 --> 01:11:29,586
I was completely
comfortable with the way
1482
01:11:29,686 --> 01:11:32,522
that certain things
were being shot.
1483
01:11:32,589 --> 01:11:35,859
You know, "Is this all right?"
1484
01:11:35,959 --> 01:11:37,260
- Okay?
1485
01:11:37,361 --> 01:11:38,928
- [Mishel] It's nice to have
somebody checking in on you
1486
01:11:39,028 --> 01:11:40,330
even after the fact.
1487
01:11:41,898 --> 01:11:44,534
(dynamic music)
1488
01:11:45,735 --> 01:11:48,905
- "The Sex Lives of
College Girls" is
1489
01:11:49,005 --> 01:11:52,509
about freshmen
college suitemates
1490
01:11:52,609 --> 01:11:54,744
who are navigating
their sexuality.
1491
01:11:55,945 --> 01:11:56,413
- So, how does this work?
1492
01:11:56,513 --> 01:11:57,847
(pulsing dance music)
1493
01:11:57,947 --> 01:12:01,017
Do we just take our
clothes off and go inside?
1494
01:12:01,084 --> 01:12:03,086
- Fuck it, I'm going in.
1495
01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:04,588
I have a disability.
1496
01:12:04,688 --> 01:12:07,791
My character, clearly, will
also have a disability,
1497
01:12:07,891 --> 01:12:11,127
but who my character is is
not predicated on the fact
1498
01:12:11,227 --> 01:12:12,362
that I'm a disabled woman.
1499
01:12:12,429 --> 01:12:14,330
Honey, I pull.
1500
01:12:15,298 --> 01:12:16,332
Hey.
1501
01:12:16,433 --> 01:12:18,502
It's still about my sexuality.
1502
01:12:18,602 --> 01:12:21,705
- Do any of you know where
a girl named Sarah is?
1503
01:12:21,771 --> 01:12:22,305
- No.
1504
01:12:22,406 --> 01:12:23,106
- Sorry.
1505
01:12:23,206 --> 01:12:24,474
- I don't.
1506
01:12:24,574 --> 01:12:28,978
It's the most refreshing
thing to have a character,
1507
01:12:29,078 --> 01:12:33,450
especially a wheelchair user,
be sexy, be sex positive,
1508
01:12:33,517 --> 01:12:37,220
be sexual, to be seen
as desired and loved
1509
01:12:37,286 --> 01:12:39,656
because we deserve it, too.
1510
01:12:39,723 --> 01:12:41,891
(bright energetic music)
1511
01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:46,530
- There was a time in
my life when I felt free
1512
01:12:48,197 --> 01:12:51,100
(character moaning)
1513
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,502
Ow.
1514
01:12:52,602 --> 01:12:53,970
(infant suckling)
1515
01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:55,238
Ah, Jesus.
1516
01:12:56,172 --> 01:12:58,642
- I always knew that it
would be noisy to make a show
1517
01:12:58,708 --> 01:13:03,413
about female desire
and sexuality,
1518
01:13:03,513 --> 01:13:07,116
about a woman who wants sex,
1519
01:13:07,216 --> 01:13:08,685
who admits she's had sex,
1520
01:13:08,785 --> 01:13:12,689
that she wants to have more
of it, and not punishing her
1521
01:13:12,789 --> 01:13:16,760
for her desire is in
itself a revolutionary act.
1522
01:13:16,826 --> 01:13:18,261
When you make that
woman a mother,
1523
01:13:18,361 --> 01:13:24,067
it is just charging straight
into these opinions in society
1524
01:13:25,469 --> 01:13:27,437
that martyrdom is the
ideal for mothers.
1525
01:13:27,571 --> 01:13:28,905
* Each morning *
1526
01:13:29,005 --> 01:13:30,740
- [Child] Morning, mommy.
(air whooshing)
1527
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,208
(hands thudding)
(mother exhales)
1528
01:13:32,308 --> 01:13:35,044
- I also felt like we
cannot tell this whole story
1529
01:13:35,111 --> 01:13:38,448
and just not even have
one shot of a penis.
1530
01:13:38,548 --> 01:13:41,150
(intense music)
1531
01:13:42,852 --> 01:13:46,022
We put it in the cut, and
the Netflix executives were
1532
01:13:46,122 --> 01:13:48,658
very nervous about
it and asked us
1533
01:13:48,758 --> 01:13:50,460
to consider taking it out.
1534
01:13:51,961 --> 01:13:54,664
They were concerned that it
would be off-putting to women.
1535
01:13:54,764 --> 01:13:56,933
Not heterosexual
women (laughs).
1536
01:13:57,033 --> 01:13:59,068
(pensive music)
1537
01:13:59,168 --> 01:14:01,204
- I think everything I've
been doing has been an attempt
1538
01:14:01,304 --> 01:14:03,673
to investigate the male gaze,
1539
01:14:03,740 --> 01:14:05,542
all these ways in which the
camera has kind of stood
1540
01:14:05,642 --> 01:14:09,045
in for an assumed
masculine protagonist
1541
01:14:09,112 --> 01:14:12,248
and to to kind of reset
it, saying, you know,
1542
01:14:12,348 --> 01:14:13,049
(sultry music)
"I'm the subject.
1543
01:14:13,149 --> 01:14:13,917
You're the object."
1544
01:14:15,084 --> 01:14:18,421
Consent doesn't have to be
this kind of,
1545
01:14:18,722 --> 01:14:19,956
like, mushy thing
1546
01:14:20,056 --> 01:14:23,326
that's, like, shrouded
in questions about
1547
01:14:23,426 --> 01:14:24,494
shame and gender.
1548
01:14:24,594 --> 01:14:27,997
(sultry music continues)
1549
01:14:29,766 --> 01:14:31,668
When I'm filming, I'm
always wanting to, like, put
1550
01:14:31,735 --> 01:14:34,838
the camera into the place
of the character's desire.
1551
01:14:34,938 --> 01:14:37,006
So, it's like, instead
of taking the camera
1552
01:14:37,073 --> 01:14:38,742
up here or out here, I'm
always,
1553
01:14:38,842 --> 01:14:40,176
like, literally imagining
1554
01:14:40,276 --> 01:14:42,612
the camera moving down
into, like, the gut.
1555
01:14:42,712 --> 01:14:46,082
(lover breathing heavily)
1556
01:14:46,182 --> 01:14:49,719
- Joey really opened
up in me my sensitivity
1557
01:14:49,819 --> 01:14:51,855
as a human being translated
1558
01:14:51,921 --> 01:14:54,591
into what I could
bring to the camera.
1559
01:14:54,658 --> 01:14:57,594
(relaxing music)
1560
01:14:58,995 --> 01:15:01,130
The camera's approach
is honoring the
1561
01:15:01,230 --> 01:15:02,131
space for the actors.
1562
01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:06,903
Joey would say that I had
a mussy and would say,
1563
01:15:07,003 --> 01:15:09,105
"Jimmy, shoot from
your mussy,"
1564
01:15:09,205 --> 01:15:11,107
'cause I don't think that
a man only has a male gaze,
1565
01:15:11,207 --> 01:15:13,142
or a woman would only
have a female gaze.
1566
01:15:15,244 --> 01:15:17,681
(lover moaning)
1567
01:15:17,781 --> 01:15:19,148
- I wanted to be naked
1568
01:15:19,248 --> 01:15:20,550
because, first of all,
that had never been done.
1569
01:15:20,650 --> 01:15:22,051
- All right.
1570
01:15:22,151 --> 01:15:24,821
- And the second reason
was that I wanted to show
1571
01:15:24,921 --> 01:15:28,592
this relationship and
these two human beings are
1572
01:15:28,692 --> 01:15:30,627
just like, they
have conversations
1573
01:15:30,727 --> 01:15:32,862
after people take showers,
and they're naked.
1574
01:15:35,832 --> 01:15:38,034
(sighs) We can't
afford any more bills.
1575
01:15:39,168 --> 01:15:41,037
I can't believe I
have to say this.
1576
01:15:41,104 --> 01:15:43,640
Trans people
actually have sex.
1577
01:15:43,707 --> 01:15:47,243
We have sex with other people.
1578
01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:48,011
Isn't that weird?
1579
01:15:48,111 --> 01:15:50,413
I know, strange,
but it's true.
1580
01:15:50,513 --> 01:15:52,616
(sultry music)
1581
01:15:52,682 --> 01:15:55,051
Everybody is doing
this thing called love.
1582
01:15:59,856 --> 01:16:02,626
- I'm really
interested in pursuing
1583
01:16:02,726 --> 01:16:06,095
the notion of female desire,
1584
01:16:06,195 --> 01:16:09,766
(sultry music continues)
1585
01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:15,038
be it ambition, or sex,
1586
01:16:15,104 --> 01:16:20,076
or romance with the idea
that there is a subjectivity
1587
01:16:20,777 --> 01:16:22,946
and often a voraciousness
1588
01:16:23,980 --> 01:16:25,548
that comes from a
female perspective.
1589
01:16:25,615 --> 01:16:28,184
(mellow music)
1590
01:16:36,259 --> 01:16:38,294
- In terms of making films,
the most important thing is
1591
01:16:38,394 --> 01:16:40,797
women have been doing
this forever, you know,
1592
01:16:40,897 --> 01:16:41,297
that we're not the first.
1593
01:16:50,306 --> 01:16:53,242
Women were putting the
camera in a place of empathy,
1594
01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,650
yearning, longing, wanting.
1595
01:17:04,888 --> 01:17:06,656
- [Stephane] There is a
rediscovery
1596
01:17:06,723 --> 01:17:07,757
of lost Black films
1597
01:17:07,857 --> 01:17:11,194
that celebrate
romance and intimacy.
1598
01:17:12,528 --> 01:17:15,364
These films have
always existed.
1599
01:17:20,569 --> 01:17:23,372
(vocalizing)
1600
01:17:26,776 --> 01:17:29,045
- It's changing.
1601
01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:30,780
- You can feel it.
1602
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,181
You can feel it in
the writer's rooms.
1603
01:17:32,281 --> 01:17:34,884
You can feel it
talking to producers.
1604
01:17:34,984 --> 01:17:36,820
When I'm on the set of
"Grace and Frankie,"
1605
01:17:36,886 --> 01:17:38,121
half the people
there are women.
1606
01:17:38,221 --> 01:17:42,391
Trust me, when I
started out in '58, '59,
1607
01:17:42,491 --> 01:17:43,526
there wasn't a woman,
1608
01:17:43,626 --> 01:17:47,030
except maybe the script
supervisor, on the set.
1609
01:17:47,130 --> 01:17:49,733
We're making vibrators
for women with arthritis.
1610
01:17:49,833 --> 01:17:51,835
- Yes, vibrators.
1611
01:17:51,935 --> 01:17:53,770
- We're making things
for people like us
1612
01:17:53,870 --> 01:17:56,539
because we are sick and
tired of being dismissed
1613
01:17:56,639 --> 01:17:57,673
by people like you.
1614
01:17:57,774 --> 01:17:58,808
- Mic drop.
1615
01:17:59,675 --> 01:18:01,344
- Okay, come on in.
1616
01:18:03,312 --> 01:18:05,949
- [Stephane] I'm hoping
that there will be
1617
01:18:06,049 --> 01:18:08,451
a more seismic shift
happening more rapidly now.
1618
01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:10,319
- Hey.
1619
01:18:10,419 --> 01:18:11,187
(crew member speaking
indistinctly)
1620
01:18:11,254 --> 01:18:12,722
- Yeah, sure.
1621
01:18:12,822 --> 01:18:14,257
- I think we need more-
1622
01:18:14,357 --> 01:18:15,658
- [Stephane] You'll see more
women green light a series,
1623
01:18:15,725 --> 01:18:18,127
(ladders creaking)
1624
01:18:19,428 --> 01:18:20,864
- to green light a movie,
(metal scraping)
1625
01:18:20,930 --> 01:18:22,198
and when you see that,
1626
01:18:22,298 --> 01:18:26,870
you'll see more movies
that empower women.
1627
01:18:26,936 --> 01:18:28,471
(slate clicking)
1628
01:18:35,745 --> 01:18:38,281
- Okay, and cut.
1629
01:18:38,915 --> 01:18:41,217
- Actresses, for
the first time
1630
01:18:41,284 --> 01:18:44,954
since I would say
the 30s, have power.
1631
01:18:46,890 --> 01:18:49,492
- Men want to be
looking at women
1632
01:18:49,558 --> 01:18:52,628
in the way that you look at
a protagonist in a movie,
1633
01:18:52,728 --> 01:18:53,963
which is as yourself.
1634
01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:58,034
- And for some reason,
1635
01:18:58,134 --> 01:18:59,402
I think men weren't making
that kind of transference.
1636
01:19:01,104 --> 01:19:02,405
Now, it's happening.
1637
01:19:02,505 --> 01:19:08,311
- The beauty of film, and
television, and media is
1638
01:19:08,411 --> 01:19:11,480
that we have the ability to
reach people's living rooms.
1639
01:19:11,580 --> 01:19:14,984
And when you see somebody that
maybe doesn't look like you,
1640
01:19:15,084 --> 01:19:17,753
but emotionally, you see
yourself
1641
01:19:17,987 --> 01:19:19,588
reflected in that way,
1642
01:19:19,688 --> 01:19:24,460
all of a sudden, that person
becomes more familiar to you.
1643
01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:32,101
- We have consumed, for a
very long time, ourselves
1644
01:19:32,969 --> 01:19:36,172
outside of our own lens
1645
01:19:36,272 --> 01:19:39,475
that we are still figuring
out what that means.
1646
01:19:41,044 --> 01:19:42,178
- I think Hollywood is
1647
01:19:42,278 --> 01:19:45,448
no longer just a place
of entertainment.
1648
01:19:45,548 --> 01:19:48,517
I think that the power
that Hollywood holds is
1649
01:19:48,584 --> 01:19:52,922
so great that it should
put its power to good use,
1650
01:19:53,022 --> 01:19:55,124
which is representation.
1651
01:20:00,463 --> 01:20:02,698
- Hey, check this one out.
(projector clattering)
1652
01:20:02,765 --> 01:20:06,836
- And I think nudity and sex,
it's a really beautiful way
1653
01:20:06,936 --> 01:20:08,037
to show things
without telling them
1654
01:20:08,137 --> 01:20:11,975
and is a vital part
of storytelling.
1655
01:20:12,075 --> 01:20:14,643
And I actually feel
better doing it
1656
01:20:14,743 --> 01:20:16,445
with an intimacy
coordinator now.
1657
01:20:18,882 --> 01:20:21,384
- I have done something and
been involved in something
1658
01:20:21,484 --> 01:20:25,021
that is important and I hope
permanent in this industry,
1659
01:20:25,121 --> 01:20:28,191
and, yeah, it's
pretty surreal.
1660
01:20:28,291 --> 01:20:30,426
It's really, it feels
very good (laughs).
1661
01:20:33,529 --> 01:20:36,332
(energetic music)
1662
01:20:38,902 --> 01:20:39,835
* I'm feeling myself *
1663
01:20:39,969 --> 01:20:41,704
* I'm feeling myself *
1664
01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:42,939
* Can't even lie *
1665
01:20:43,072 --> 01:20:44,640
* I'm not that
thing on the shelf *
1666
01:20:44,773 --> 01:20:45,841
* I'm feeling myself *
1667
01:20:45,975 --> 01:20:47,143
* I'm feeling myself *
1668
01:20:47,276 --> 01:20:51,480
* 'Cause I'm doing it
better than anyone else *
1669
01:20:57,253 --> 01:20:59,788
- [Joey] We're just
getting started.
1670
01:20:59,889 --> 01:21:01,190
- All right, fellas.
1671
01:21:01,290 --> 01:21:03,692
- Getting the cameras into
the hands of the people
1672
01:21:03,792 --> 01:21:06,262
who want them and
deserve them.
1673
01:21:06,795 --> 01:21:09,332
- [Speaker] Fuck yeah, mom.
1674
01:21:11,067 --> 01:21:13,202
- Women don't stay
silent forever.
1675
01:21:13,302 --> 01:21:16,372
- Some women will see some of
these amazing pieces of work
1676
01:21:16,472 --> 01:21:19,542
by women and start to
kind of center themselves
1677
01:21:19,642 --> 01:21:21,244
in their lives, you know?
1678
01:21:21,344 --> 01:21:24,047
But it's not filmmaking's
job to do it.
1679
01:21:24,147 --> 01:21:26,349
It's the world's job to
center female pleasure.
1680
01:21:26,449 --> 01:21:29,085
It's the world's job
to understand consent.
1681
01:21:29,185 --> 01:21:31,620
You know, it's not female
filmmakers' job to teach it.
1682
01:21:33,957 --> 01:21:35,391
We got enough to do.
1683
01:21:35,524 --> 01:21:36,759
(joey chuckles)
* I'm feeling myself *
1684
01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:38,694
* I'm feeling myself *
1685
01:21:38,761 --> 01:21:39,929
* Can't even lie *
1686
01:21:39,996 --> 01:21:41,664
* I'm not that
thing on the shelf *
1687
01:21:41,797 --> 01:21:42,765
* I'm feeling myself *
1688
01:21:42,831 --> 01:21:44,300
* I'm feeling myself *
1689
01:21:44,433 --> 01:21:47,803
* 'Cause I'm doing it
better than anyone else *
1690
01:21:47,937 --> 01:21:48,771
* Feeling myself *
1691
01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:50,739
* I'm feeling myself *
1692
01:21:50,806 --> 01:21:51,975
* Can't even lie *
1693
01:21:52,108 --> 01:21:53,842
* I'm not that
thing on the shelf *
1694
01:21:53,909 --> 01:21:54,877
* I'm feeling myself *
1695
01:21:54,944 --> 01:21:56,145
* I'm feeling myself *
1696
01:21:56,279 --> 01:22:00,449
* 'Cause I'm doing it
better than anyone else *
1697
01:22:02,051 --> 01:22:04,820
* Feeling myself *
1698
01:22:04,954 --> 01:22:07,190
* I'm feeling myself *
1699
01:22:07,323 --> 01:22:10,193
* I'm feeling myself *
1700
01:22:10,259 --> 01:22:16,232
* I'm feeling myself *
1701
01:22:20,703 --> 01:22:23,072
* (vocalizing) *
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