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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,473 --> 00:00:08,142 (dramatic music) 2 00:00:27,728 --> 00:00:29,597 (singer vocalizing) 3 00:00:34,034 --> 00:00:37,538 (gate clattering) 4 00:00:43,244 --> 00:00:45,679 - When I first signed with an agent, they said, 5 00:00:45,779 --> 00:00:47,615 "Oh, yeah, you're gonna have to get naked, 6 00:00:47,715 --> 00:00:51,285 and everybody knows that winning the Oscar represents 7 00:00:51,385 --> 00:00:51,652 that you're not gonna get naked anymore." 8 00:00:53,354 --> 00:00:55,389 (crew chattering indistinctly) 9 00:00:55,489 --> 00:00:57,358 - You're out there while the men are 10 00:00:57,458 --> 00:00:59,227 on the sides wearing parkas. 11 00:01:00,428 --> 00:01:01,595 You're just standing there with no shirt on. 12 00:01:01,662 --> 00:01:04,298 Everybody's standing, staring at you. 13 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:07,735 - A lot of the nudity that was asked of me 14 00:01:07,835 --> 00:01:09,370 was not in the contract. 15 00:01:09,470 --> 00:01:13,441 I thought, at the time, "This is what paying your dues is." 16 00:01:13,874 --> 00:01:16,177 - I was afraid if I said no 17 00:01:16,277 --> 00:01:18,146 that it would make me too vulnerable. 18 00:01:20,013 --> 00:01:21,482 For some reason, sayin no 19 00:01:21,582 --> 00:01:23,351 would make me more vulnerable than being naked. 20 00:01:25,352 --> 00:01:27,988 - Did I have to be topless? 21 00:01:28,088 --> 00:01:29,489 Probably not. 22 00:01:31,425 --> 00:01:33,294 - Already as an artist, as an actor, 23 00:01:33,394 --> 00:01:36,263 my body no longer belongs to me. 24 00:01:36,364 --> 00:01:40,100 You are giving over your likeness to a character, 25 00:01:40,201 --> 00:01:42,303 and then that character becomes something 26 00:01:42,370 --> 00:01:43,704 that belongs to the world, and that's crazy. 27 00:01:46,507 --> 00:01:49,377 - This idea of, "Oh, I'm less of a true actor 28 00:01:49,477 --> 00:01:51,279 if I do nudity," as if it's this negative thing, 29 00:01:51,379 --> 00:01:53,447 but who decided that? 30 00:01:55,616 --> 00:01:57,618 - [Director] Zoom in if you can. 31 00:01:57,685 --> 00:01:59,687 - I wanted to be naked so there's a sense of normalcy 32 00:01:59,753 --> 00:02:01,489 about what our bodies represent, 33 00:02:01,589 --> 00:02:05,025 not just for trans people but period. 34 00:02:05,125 --> 00:02:05,959 (crate thudding) (metal clinking) 35 00:02:06,026 --> 00:02:07,428 - [Crew] Yeah, can we just... 36 00:02:07,861 --> 00:02:09,363 - All these movies 37 00:02:09,463 --> 00:02:10,931 that I watched growing up chipped away 38 00:02:10,998 --> 00:02:15,068 at my sense of who I was, how to know who I was, 39 00:02:15,169 --> 00:02:16,470 how to know what I wanted. 40 00:02:17,505 --> 00:02:18,472 - [Director] Okay, marks, everyone. 41 00:02:18,572 --> 00:02:19,673 - [Joey] How do we find our desire 42 00:02:19,773 --> 00:02:22,476 when we're so used to being looked at? 43 00:02:22,576 --> 00:02:25,413 - [Director] Interior bedroom night, this is a closed set, 44 00:02:25,513 --> 00:02:28,048 so if you're not in this scene or working this scene, 45 00:02:28,115 --> 00:02:29,483 please exit the stage. 46 00:02:29,583 --> 00:02:33,987 - What we see over and over again is women have to fight 47 00:02:34,087 --> 00:02:35,756 for ownership of their own body. 48 00:02:36,224 --> 00:02:37,157 - [Crew] Okay, here we go. 49 00:02:37,225 --> 00:02:37,925 - Quiet please. - Quiet. 50 00:02:38,025 --> 00:02:38,692 - [Crew] Roll sound. 51 00:02:42,029 --> 00:02:43,264 - [Crew] Camera speeds. 52 00:02:43,364 --> 00:02:44,565 - [Crew] Scene 20, take five, marker. 53 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:46,867 - [Crew] 'Kay, robe's off. 54 00:02:48,269 --> 00:02:49,403 - [Crew] Action. 55 00:02:51,272 --> 00:02:55,409 (projector clattering) 56 00:02:57,177 --> 00:03:00,581 (singer vocalizing) 57 00:03:11,592 --> 00:03:14,928 - Everybody learns how to behave 58 00:03:14,995 --> 00:03:18,732 and sex and other things from the movies, 59 00:03:22,702 --> 00:03:24,272 our notions of ourselves, our notions of beauty, 60 00:03:24,338 --> 00:03:26,707 our notions of romance, 61 00:03:28,175 --> 00:03:32,613 what sex is allowed to be, and who it's allowed to be with. 62 00:03:33,180 --> 00:03:34,815 - How to kiss, how to have sex, 63 00:03:34,882 --> 00:03:36,850 how to be tender, how to be violent. 64 00:03:36,916 --> 00:03:38,452 I mean, there are so many things we learn from movies, 65 00:03:38,552 --> 00:03:41,255 particularly when we're younger. 66 00:03:41,355 --> 00:03:44,392 (projector clattering) 67 00:03:44,492 --> 00:03:45,793 - It's hard to talk about sex, 68 00:03:45,892 --> 00:03:51,632 but here we have all of these examples of movies, 69 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:56,337 and television, and now the Internet 70 00:03:56,837 --> 00:03:58,939 to show us what we are thinking 71 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:01,942 about our relation to sex through media. 72 00:04:05,346 --> 00:04:06,414 - Sex education. 73 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:07,914 (students laughing) 74 00:04:08,015 --> 00:04:12,320 - Don't have sex 'cause you will get pregnant and die. 75 00:04:12,420 --> 00:04:13,253 - That's it then for the penis. 76 00:04:13,354 --> 00:04:15,289 Let's move on 77 00:04:15,389 --> 00:04:17,825 to the, the -- 78 00:04:18,158 --> 00:04:19,860 female privates. 79 00:04:22,430 --> 00:04:23,564 - We are sex ed, 80 00:04:23,931 --> 00:04:24,398 the TV industry and the film industry. 81 00:04:24,498 --> 00:04:26,400 We are sex ed. 82 00:04:31,705 --> 00:04:32,473 - When I didn't think I was gonna make it 83 00:04:32,540 --> 00:04:34,542 as a filmmaker, as a director, 84 00:04:34,642 --> 00:04:36,977 I really wanted to do sex education curriculums 85 00:04:37,077 --> 00:04:39,780 in high schools 'cause I just find so many things, 86 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,014 like, so shocking about what women 87 00:04:41,114 --> 00:04:45,553 and girls, like, aren't ever told about sex. 88 00:04:48,589 --> 00:04:49,590 - [Joey] Which is probably 89 00:04:49,690 --> 00:04:51,291 why I'm really fascinated as a director 90 00:04:51,392 --> 00:04:53,226 (door slamming) 91 00:04:53,327 --> 00:04:54,628 with what happens behind closed doors. 92 00:04:59,266 --> 00:05:01,935 (film rustling) 93 00:05:07,908 --> 00:05:11,612 - I was raised so conservative and so Christian 94 00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:16,884 that I remember watching "Ace Ventura" (laughs), 95 00:05:18,519 --> 00:05:20,220 and it was the first time I realized 96 00:05:20,287 --> 00:05:22,322 that sex wasn't just the penis going into the vagina -- 97 00:05:22,423 --> 00:05:24,257 (bed clanging) 98 00:05:24,358 --> 00:05:25,926 ...because the bed was shaking back and forth, realizing 99 00:05:26,026 --> 00:05:28,895 that there was, like, an actual movement that happened. 100 00:05:31,432 --> 00:05:36,203 - For me, the sex scene that sticks out is "Love Jones." 101 00:05:37,104 --> 00:05:39,607 There was, like, one moment within the scene where 102 00:05:39,673 --> 00:05:42,476 Larenz actually kissed her nipple, 103 00:05:43,611 --> 00:05:44,912 and I was like, "Whoa." 104 00:05:45,513 --> 00:05:47,648 Like, "They're allowed to put this in movies?" 105 00:05:47,748 --> 00:05:49,417 Like, "This is crazy. 106 00:05:50,651 --> 00:05:55,623 Oh, this is what sex looks like. 107 00:05:56,457 --> 00:05:58,025 This is how I'm supposed to look as a woman." 108 00:06:01,862 --> 00:06:03,931 - [Stacy] When I was a teenager I remember watching 109 00:06:04,031 --> 00:06:06,366 "Fast Times at Ridgemont High," 110 00:06:06,434 --> 00:06:08,469 and there was Phoebe Cates, 111 00:06:09,369 --> 00:06:10,671 - Hi, Brent. 112 00:06:10,771 --> 00:06:13,541 - who was the object of desire, 113 00:06:14,107 --> 00:06:15,342 and so wanted, 114 00:06:16,176 --> 00:06:20,013 and so unattainable, and I remember thinking, like, 115 00:06:20,113 --> 00:06:21,515 "I really wanna be her." 116 00:06:27,855 --> 00:06:30,023 - I desperately wanted to be the object. 117 00:06:33,693 --> 00:06:35,629 (singer vocalizing) 118 00:06:39,733 --> 00:06:43,070 (energetic music) (projector clattering) 119 00:06:46,006 --> 00:06:49,810 - There's a long tradition in American movies of showgirls, 120 00:06:49,877 --> 00:06:52,980 of literally showing girls, 121 00:06:55,415 --> 00:06:59,186 identical-looking women opening their legs in unison 122 00:07:00,621 --> 00:07:03,156 going back to the earliest musicals. 123 00:07:04,157 --> 00:07:05,726 (energetic music continues) 124 00:07:06,393 --> 00:07:08,762 - The idealized and commodified -- 125 00:07:09,162 --> 00:07:10,864 sexuality of women, 126 00:07:11,565 --> 00:07:13,767 it's as old an invention as film. 127 00:07:16,436 --> 00:07:17,938 (pensive music) 128 00:07:23,943 --> 00:07:27,815 - Eadweard Muybridge was a photographer 129 00:07:27,881 --> 00:07:30,751 who would give lectures, and he would show 130 00:07:30,851 --> 00:07:33,854 very, very short sequences of motion. 131 00:07:38,592 --> 00:07:39,292 (slides clicking) 132 00:07:39,392 --> 00:07:40,628 When he got to the women, 133 00:07:40,728 --> 00:07:43,497 he fundamentally didn't know what purposeful activity 134 00:07:43,597 --> 00:07:45,833 to give them to do, 135 00:07:46,399 --> 00:07:49,402 and so he had them flirt fans, 136 00:07:50,170 --> 00:07:52,472 or walk up some stairs, or walk down some stairs. 137 00:07:53,373 --> 00:07:57,210 One woman is gazing longingly at another woman. 138 00:07:58,478 --> 00:08:00,581 So, the men act, 139 00:08:02,082 --> 00:08:05,085 and the women are always aware of being looked at. 140 00:08:06,620 --> 00:08:11,525 (slides clicking) (pensive music continues) 141 00:08:16,196 --> 00:08:18,966 (dramatic music) 142 00:08:23,971 --> 00:08:26,273 (keys clattering) - [Writer] Jane, 30s, 143 00:08:26,372 --> 00:08:27,775 beautiful but pissed. 144 00:08:27,875 --> 00:08:30,177 Jane, an attractive and fit nurse in her late 30s. 145 00:08:30,276 --> 00:08:32,179 Jane 40s, looks 35. 146 00:08:32,245 --> 00:08:33,747 Jane's the Harvard type. Pretty, Hispanic. 147 00:08:33,847 --> 00:08:34,615 Smart as shit and beautiful. 148 00:08:35,348 --> 00:08:38,952 - We need a woman who's strong-willed but hot. 149 00:08:40,654 --> 00:08:42,222 She has to be strong-willed but hot, -- 150 00:08:43,591 --> 00:08:45,559 meaning that a strong-willed woman is 151 00:08:45,659 --> 00:08:46,794 usually not attractive. 152 00:08:46,894 --> 00:08:49,697 - The bimbo hot mamacita, 153 00:08:50,864 --> 00:08:55,969 seductress, voluptuous, curvaceous, sassy. 154 00:08:56,436 --> 00:08:57,905 (dramatic music continues) 155 00:08:58,005 --> 00:09:00,808 - I make you feel real nice today, Doug. 156 00:09:00,908 --> 00:09:03,611 I played this one character who was 157 00:09:03,711 --> 00:09:06,680 an Asian masseuse, 158 00:09:06,747 --> 00:09:08,148 (laughing) and I remember 159 00:09:08,248 --> 00:09:10,951 when that casting breakdown was being faxed to me 160 00:09:11,051 --> 00:09:14,354 and was (laughing) like, "Is she also a bad driver, 161 00:09:14,454 --> 00:09:15,656 and is she good at math?" 162 00:09:15,756 --> 00:09:17,324 I mean, how many stereotypes can you roll 163 00:09:17,424 --> 00:09:18,626 into this one character? 164 00:09:18,959 --> 00:09:20,227 (projector clattering) 165 00:09:21,061 --> 00:09:22,462 - You read so many scripts, and you're like, 166 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:24,197 "This is what you're gonna do, 167 00:09:24,297 --> 00:09:25,432 (film bursting in flame) 168 00:09:25,532 --> 00:09:28,001 this, and then you're gonna get money to make this, 169 00:09:28,101 --> 00:09:29,637 and then you're gonna put this thought out into the world 170 00:09:29,703 --> 00:09:31,238 with these characters?" 171 00:09:33,874 --> 00:09:36,710 - When I first started my TV writing career, 172 00:09:36,810 --> 00:09:39,780 they were always looking for a female writer to hire. 173 00:09:40,714 --> 00:09:41,815 It's terrible to say, 174 00:09:41,915 --> 00:09:43,383 but at the time I felt really fortunate. 175 00:09:43,483 --> 00:09:45,185 I was like, "Oh, they're looking for a female writer. 176 00:09:45,252 --> 00:09:46,854 I could be that female writer," 177 00:09:46,954 --> 00:09:48,155 but of course I wasn't putting it together, like, 178 00:09:48,255 --> 00:09:51,391 'cause they already have a writer's room of 11 guys. 179 00:09:52,059 --> 00:09:55,829 And there wasn't a lot of interest 180 00:09:55,929 --> 00:09:58,666 in authentic female stories. 181 00:09:58,766 --> 00:09:59,667 I'll put it that way. 182 00:09:59,767 --> 00:10:01,268 - In some ways, I think there's 183 00:10:01,368 --> 00:10:03,737 a (laughing) lotta 20 and 30 something male writers, 184 00:10:05,605 --> 00:10:08,676 who they'd admit, "I'm not really sure I wanna to know 185 00:10:08,742 --> 00:10:09,877 what's in a woman's head," you know, 186 00:10:09,943 --> 00:10:10,978 and, "I'd rather stand out here 187 00:10:11,078 --> 00:10:12,780 and put a gun in a guy's hand, 188 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,414 and I'll write that story." 189 00:10:15,248 --> 00:10:16,650 In some respects, we may have been shirking it. 190 00:10:22,322 --> 00:10:24,191 - They were just telling their stories, 191 00:10:24,291 --> 00:10:26,927 and in their stories, many times, 192 00:10:26,994 --> 00:10:28,829 we were one-dimensional objects. 193 00:10:32,432 --> 00:10:34,735 - It's limited choices, and that's just 194 00:10:34,802 --> 00:10:37,104 because it comes from limited imaginations. 195 00:10:40,373 --> 00:10:41,775 (switch clicking) (projector clattering) 196 00:10:41,875 --> 00:10:43,776 - You bad girl. 197 00:10:43,877 --> 00:10:45,979 - Mm, you'll find out. 198 00:10:46,780 --> 00:10:50,684 - In the very early cinema, shockingly, 199 00:10:50,784 --> 00:10:52,119 you find something different. 200 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:54,955 (upbeat music) 201 00:10:55,055 --> 00:10:56,323 - In the late 20s, early 30s, 202 00:10:56,423 --> 00:11:00,127 we did have a lot of women writing screenplays. 203 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:04,331 I mean a lot. 204 00:11:04,431 --> 00:11:05,999 I would say, like, 50-50. 205 00:11:06,099 --> 00:11:07,600 - Let's all, let's run. 206 00:11:08,135 --> 00:11:10,103 - [Mick] What you're seeing is 207 00:11:10,203 --> 00:11:12,172 the modern woman expressed on screen. 208 00:11:12,272 --> 00:11:15,776 - I don't believe in what you believe, that's all. 209 00:11:15,876 --> 00:11:17,477 I don't wanna get married. 210 00:11:17,577 --> 00:11:18,345 - I'm the doctor. 211 00:11:19,212 --> 00:11:21,148 - [Mick] And very importantly, 212 00:11:21,214 --> 00:11:24,451 you can have a woman be very sexually adventurous. 213 00:11:24,852 --> 00:11:26,353 - Hold me close. 214 00:11:27,755 --> 00:11:31,391 - The 20s and 30s was the sexiest time 215 00:11:31,491 --> 00:11:36,730 for women in movies, the Betty Davises, the May Wests, 216 00:11:36,830 --> 00:11:38,031 - A little bit spicy but not too raw, 217 00:11:38,131 --> 00:11:38,631 you know what I mean? (laughs) 218 00:11:39,366 --> 00:11:43,971 - [Jane] the Garbos, they were naughty women. 219 00:11:45,505 --> 00:11:46,339 They were dangerous women. 220 00:11:47,875 --> 00:11:50,510 - Mm, your hand is shaking. 221 00:11:51,011 --> 00:11:53,346 (horseback rider laughing) 222 00:11:54,748 --> 00:11:56,183 - Women who starred in the movies had 223 00:11:56,283 --> 00:11:59,887 a lot of power in those days, and they'd draw box office, 224 00:11:59,987 --> 00:12:01,822 and they were saying, "I wanna do stuff that's real." 225 00:12:02,555 --> 00:12:05,025 - I wanna do it and not have somebody tell me 226 00:12:05,125 --> 00:12:06,726 I ought to do something else. 227 00:12:06,827 --> 00:12:08,195 (propeller clattering) 228 00:12:09,997 --> 00:12:11,264 (airplane engine roaring) 229 00:12:13,166 --> 00:12:16,436 - Women in film were enjoying free expression. 230 00:12:19,472 --> 00:12:20,007 (actor laughing) 231 00:12:22,209 --> 00:12:25,345 And all of a sudden, this vein was just cut off. 232 00:12:25,445 --> 00:12:26,513 It was just gone. 233 00:12:27,347 --> 00:12:31,418 - The vulgar, the cheap, and the tawdry is out. 234 00:12:32,151 --> 00:12:35,455 There is no room on the screen, at any time, 235 00:12:35,555 --> 00:12:39,159 for pictures which offend against common decency. 236 00:12:40,127 --> 00:12:43,130 - [Linda] The Hollywood production code was invented 237 00:12:43,196 --> 00:12:46,934 so that Hollywood could police itself 238 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:48,268 and, in that policing, 239 00:12:48,368 --> 00:12:51,771 prevent any kind of state censorship. 240 00:12:51,872 --> 00:12:52,772 (audience laughing) 241 00:12:53,373 --> 00:12:54,407 - Night. - Night. 242 00:12:54,474 --> 00:12:57,744 - [Linda] Couples are sleeping in separate beds, 243 00:12:58,145 --> 00:13:00,113 (gentle lilting music) 244 00:13:01,481 --> 00:13:04,351 keep both feet firmly planted on the floor. 245 00:13:04,451 --> 00:13:08,488 Kisses were only allowed to be three seconds long, 246 00:13:09,422 --> 00:13:12,425 and what the kiss would lead to could never be shown, 247 00:13:17,264 --> 00:13:21,835 no sexual relations between white and black characters. 248 00:13:23,370 --> 00:13:25,672 - [Mick] There was no sex allowed outside of marriage. 249 00:13:25,772 --> 00:13:26,840 - Goodbye mother. 250 00:13:26,940 --> 00:13:28,909 - But also sex outside of marriage, 251 00:13:29,009 --> 00:13:30,143 to the extent that it could be shown, 252 00:13:30,210 --> 00:13:33,480 had to be shown as something that was tragic. 253 00:13:33,580 --> 00:13:35,082 - [Lover] Goodbye, baby. 254 00:13:35,182 --> 00:13:36,149 (gunshots blasting) 255 00:13:36,216 --> 00:13:39,186 - We had different groups of people 256 00:13:39,286 --> 00:13:41,154 locked into a certain representation. 257 00:13:41,955 --> 00:13:44,591 - Just hold on and suck in. 258 00:13:45,092 --> 00:13:45,993 - [Stephane] They're servants. 259 00:13:46,093 --> 00:13:47,094 They're the sidekick. 260 00:13:47,494 --> 00:13:49,196 - Turn me loose, you fool, turn me loose. 261 00:13:49,296 --> 00:13:50,530 It's Ashley. 262 00:13:50,630 --> 00:13:53,867 - [Stephane] Hattie McDaniel, who was crazily talented, 263 00:13:53,967 --> 00:13:56,203 had to perfect the ability to play Mammy. 264 00:13:56,303 --> 00:13:58,371 - What's that rustling noise I hear? 265 00:13:58,471 --> 00:14:00,207 - Lordy, Mr. Rhett, that ain't nothing 266 00:14:00,307 --> 00:14:03,243 but my red silk petticoat you done give me. 267 00:14:03,343 --> 00:14:05,345 - Black women had to be positioned in this way 268 00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:07,580 in which they were sexually non-threatening 269 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:08,916 to white women on screen. 270 00:14:09,716 --> 00:14:12,585 Later on, they were hypersexual or deviant. 271 00:14:13,186 --> 00:14:14,221 - I suggest that, while you're on this ship, 272 00:14:14,321 --> 00:14:16,023 you wear something a little less revealing. 273 00:14:16,890 --> 00:14:18,458 - Does it bother the captain? 274 00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:20,894 - [Stephane] Hollywood didn't have in mind 275 00:14:20,994 --> 00:14:24,531 black female actresses as leading ladies. 276 00:14:25,698 --> 00:14:27,734 (suspenseful music) 277 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:32,372 - Anna May Wong was the first Chinese American movie star. 278 00:14:32,973 --> 00:14:35,642 She was always cast as the dragon lady. 279 00:14:37,744 --> 00:14:38,946 - Ronald. - Uh, Joan. 280 00:14:39,046 --> 00:14:40,513 - The person who would - (gunshot) 281 00:14:40,580 --> 00:14:42,282 steal your husband. 282 00:14:42,882 --> 00:14:46,719 With the code, interracial marriage was not acceptable. 283 00:14:46,819 --> 00:14:48,588 It prevented her from ever being a leading lady. 284 00:14:51,191 --> 00:14:53,126 - Don't do anything foolish. 285 00:14:54,294 --> 00:14:57,097 - Women's roles were destroyed. 286 00:14:57,764 --> 00:14:58,798 - Now, you listen to me. 287 00:14:58,898 --> 00:15:00,300 You're going to marry Phil Marshall 288 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,736 and keep your mouth shut till you die. 289 00:15:03,836 --> 00:15:05,072 - Just at a time 290 00:15:05,172 --> 00:15:08,308 when women in film were enjoying some agency. 291 00:15:14,347 --> 00:15:16,416 (gentle apprehensive music) 292 00:15:21,588 --> 00:15:23,656 (actors chattering indistinctly) 293 00:15:23,756 --> 00:15:27,961 - After my first movie, when I started going on auditions, 294 00:15:28,061 --> 00:15:29,562 I hated asking for anything, 295 00:15:31,931 --> 00:15:33,166 and just by dint of being there, 296 00:15:33,266 --> 00:15:35,535 you're kind of in this position, 297 00:15:35,635 --> 00:15:38,305 you know, to say, "Alms for the poor?" 298 00:15:39,072 --> 00:15:40,507 - He's just like, "Forget that I'm famous." 299 00:15:40,573 --> 00:15:41,908 He's just like, you know. - I know. 300 00:15:42,009 --> 00:15:43,243 - The feedback I would get, you know, 301 00:15:43,343 --> 00:15:45,979 going in for, like, these female leads would be like, 302 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:48,581 "Is she sexy enough?" 303 00:15:49,016 --> 00:15:49,516 - Do it like Shakespeare but sexy. 304 00:15:50,817 --> 00:15:51,618 - Okay. 305 00:15:51,985 --> 00:15:53,820 - Right there. 306 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:54,854 - Thanks, okay, nice to meet you. 307 00:15:55,622 --> 00:15:58,425 - [Rose] You're being dissected immediately 308 00:15:58,525 --> 00:15:59,492 for your body. 309 00:16:00,260 --> 00:16:02,662 And it's something about being in a long hallway 310 00:16:02,729 --> 00:16:03,863 with all these girls 311 00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:07,467 with tight tops and miniskirts on and a big dream. 312 00:16:10,503 --> 00:16:13,473 - The amount of parts that say "nudity required" 313 00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:14,541 or, like, "simulated sex required" 314 00:16:15,242 --> 00:16:17,677 creates the situation 315 00:16:17,777 --> 00:16:20,280 where all women have to decide yes or no 316 00:16:20,347 --> 00:16:21,681 before they even get to audition for the role. 317 00:16:24,051 --> 00:16:25,385 - You will lose out on work 318 00:16:25,485 --> 00:16:27,754 if you are not willing to do nudity. 319 00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:31,091 - At the the big studios, 320 00:16:31,191 --> 00:16:33,026 they called it Bikini Day. 321 00:16:33,126 --> 00:16:34,661 (paper rustling) 322 00:16:34,761 --> 00:16:38,365 They would write a part for a girl that had to be 323 00:16:38,431 --> 00:16:39,599 in a bikini for no apparent reason. 324 00:16:42,669 --> 00:16:44,137 So, then they would have auditions for said 325 00:16:44,237 --> 00:16:45,038 bikini girl, 326 00:16:45,805 --> 00:16:47,440 and that would be the day they could get 327 00:16:47,540 --> 00:16:50,008 all of the producers there and the director there 328 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:52,045 to decide on other, more important roles. 329 00:16:52,145 --> 00:16:53,046 - A shocking pink. 330 00:16:53,979 --> 00:16:55,282 (footsteps plodding) 331 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:58,384 - When I was younger I definitely went to auditions 332 00:16:58,450 --> 00:17:03,055 for the, you know, sexy teenager. 333 00:17:03,156 --> 00:17:03,989 (glitzy music) 334 00:17:04,091 --> 00:17:05,325 - [Presenter] Lorimar presents 335 00:17:05,425 --> 00:17:07,259 Blake Edwards' "S.O.B." 336 00:17:08,895 --> 00:17:12,299 - We were all required to come in wearing a bikini. 337 00:17:12,399 --> 00:17:13,833 I was very well endowed, 338 00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:16,436 and I got the part. 339 00:17:16,836 --> 00:17:19,272 (dramatic music) 340 00:17:22,909 --> 00:17:24,311 We were about to shoot. 341 00:17:24,877 --> 00:17:27,147 Blake Edwards, he said, "Okay, so Rosanna, 342 00:17:27,247 --> 00:17:29,382 when you come in, you know what? 343 00:17:29,482 --> 00:17:31,218 Let's just lose the bikini top. 344 00:17:31,318 --> 00:17:32,352 Okay, everybody, let's go, " 345 00:17:32,452 --> 00:17:33,653 and I was like, "Um, Mr., Mr. Edwards, 346 00:17:33,753 --> 00:17:37,957 you mean take my, take my bikini top off?" 347 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:39,959 I was 19 at the time. 348 00:17:40,993 --> 00:17:43,263 And he goes, "Yeah, what, do you have a problem with that?" 349 00:17:43,330 --> 00:17:45,498 And I said, "Well, I didn't know I was gonna be nude. 350 00:17:45,598 --> 00:17:47,066 I didn't know I was gonna be naked." 351 00:17:47,167 --> 00:17:49,436 And he goes, "Oh, man, Tony," to his, you know, producer. 352 00:17:49,502 --> 00:17:51,604 He goes, "Call her agent." 353 00:17:51,704 --> 00:17:54,441 And I just remembered, like, everybody waiting for me 354 00:17:54,541 --> 00:17:55,708 and then him looking, you know, holding out, 355 00:17:55,808 --> 00:17:57,644 and I was such in a panic, and I did it, 356 00:18:00,513 --> 00:18:03,716 and I felt very humiliated and very sad about it. 357 00:18:05,352 --> 00:18:08,421 But you know, this was those days. 358 00:18:08,488 --> 00:18:09,656 It was a completely different consciousness. 359 00:18:12,392 --> 00:18:14,394 You were expected to do these things. 360 00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:17,630 (dramatic music continues) 361 00:18:20,267 --> 00:18:21,834 (waves lapping) 362 00:18:24,337 --> 00:18:26,439 (birds chirping) 363 00:18:26,539 --> 00:18:28,908 - The best way to do this, to get the right head motion, 364 00:18:29,008 --> 00:18:30,377 and also the DP's gonna have to put 365 00:18:30,477 --> 00:18:33,313 the camera in the right place is you make a fist, 366 00:18:33,380 --> 00:18:35,515 you put your thumb here. 367 00:18:36,916 --> 00:18:37,650 (actor laughing) 368 00:18:37,717 --> 00:18:38,685 You suck your own thumb. 369 00:18:38,785 --> 00:18:40,119 (actor laughing) 370 00:18:40,220 --> 00:18:41,754 And if you put the camera right behind them, 371 00:18:41,821 --> 00:18:43,256 - [Actor] Mm-hmm, it just looks like- 372 00:18:43,356 --> 00:18:43,956 - then you get the whole- - [Actor] Yeah. 373 00:18:44,056 --> 00:18:45,225 - Thing. 374 00:18:45,325 --> 00:18:46,092 And it gets the right- - Freaky. 375 00:18:46,159 --> 00:18:47,427 - Yeah, oh, yeah, wow. 376 00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:48,094 - The guy's head movement. - The look of it. 377 00:18:48,195 --> 00:18:49,128 - Yep. - Wow. 378 00:18:49,229 --> 00:18:50,830 Did not know that. 379 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:51,998 - Wow. 380 00:18:52,098 --> 00:18:52,865 - [Actor] Yep, okay. 381 00:18:54,867 --> 00:18:56,869 - Today, we're gonna be getting to the core 382 00:18:56,969 --> 00:18:58,238 of what does it mean to be an intimacy coordinator 383 00:18:58,338 --> 00:19:00,840 and, like, how does all this stuff function. 384 00:19:01,808 --> 00:19:05,978 We're gonna talk about the three most common types 385 00:19:06,078 --> 00:19:08,548 or, like, themes in choreography, 386 00:19:08,615 --> 00:19:10,750 which are romance, passion, dominance, 387 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:13,486 so like, what sorts of touch are associated 388 00:19:13,586 --> 00:19:15,655 and then what are some, like, hints 389 00:19:15,755 --> 00:19:17,590 in terms of often dialogue that we're going 390 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:20,493 in the direction of this theme. 391 00:19:23,663 --> 00:19:27,467 Romance typically has a gentle 392 00:19:27,534 --> 00:19:30,603 but solid feeling at the same time. 393 00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:34,073 See how light he's being? 394 00:19:34,140 --> 00:19:34,774 - [Students] Yeah. 395 00:19:36,309 --> 00:19:38,511 - [Amanda] Long, soft, continuous strokes 396 00:19:38,611 --> 00:19:39,779 over different areas of the body, 397 00:19:39,846 --> 00:19:42,282 - [Student] This guy's- - That reads romantic. 398 00:19:44,284 --> 00:19:46,786 They're about to go into passion, and here we go, 399 00:19:48,688 --> 00:19:53,660 (romantic music) (lips smacking) 400 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,094 (lover moaning) 401 00:19:55,161 --> 00:19:58,831 It's kind of animalistic, and they kind of just, like, allow 402 00:19:58,931 --> 00:20:02,101 themselves to get lost in the experience, 403 00:20:02,201 --> 00:20:03,102 and it's a bit out of control. 404 00:20:03,202 --> 00:20:05,872 (lovers moaning) 405 00:20:12,479 --> 00:20:13,846 So, the last one's dominance. 406 00:20:21,754 --> 00:20:26,693 - [Amanda] The energy tends to be cool, calm, collected. 407 00:20:32,465 --> 00:20:34,967 - [Amanda] It can be sadistic. (lever clanging) 408 00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:35,468 (actor breathing heavily) 409 00:20:35,568 --> 00:20:37,537 It can be punishing. 410 00:20:39,439 --> 00:20:41,841 (actor breathing heavily) (tape creaking) 411 00:20:41,941 --> 00:20:46,713 - Just is occurring to me how fraught this is for men. 412 00:20:46,779 --> 00:20:49,516 - A lot of them are afraid of, like, 413 00:20:49,616 --> 00:20:50,983 "What if I, like, cross another person's boundaries?" 414 00:20:51,083 --> 00:20:54,354 Or, "What if I, like, harm her or do something?" you know. 415 00:20:54,454 --> 00:20:55,388 - And you have to do a good job. 416 00:20:55,488 --> 00:20:56,356 It needs to look a certain way. 417 00:20:56,456 --> 00:20:57,123 I mean it's a lot of- - Mm-hmm. 418 00:20:57,189 --> 00:20:58,157 - Ooh. - Yeah. 419 00:20:58,257 --> 00:20:59,592 - It's, like, an exaggeration 420 00:20:59,692 --> 00:21:00,092 of everything in the culture happening right there. 421 00:21:00,192 --> 00:21:01,060 - [Amanda] Yeah. 422 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:02,194 - [Student] Mm-hmm. 423 00:21:02,295 --> 00:21:03,330 (tense music) - Okay, here we go, 424 00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:05,565 let's lock it up, please. 425 00:21:05,665 --> 00:21:07,334 - [Crew] Belle Rose, take one. 426 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,037 - All right, quiet now, on a bell. 427 00:21:11,103 --> 00:21:12,972 (bell ringing) 428 00:21:13,072 --> 00:21:15,442 And roll please. 429 00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,245 - Speed. 430 00:21:19,346 --> 00:21:20,713 (slate clacking) 431 00:21:20,813 --> 00:21:23,650 - If there's gonna be nudity or a sex scene in a movie, 432 00:21:23,716 --> 00:21:24,851 SAG has certain requirements. 433 00:21:27,954 --> 00:21:29,322 (metal clanging) 434 00:21:29,389 --> 00:21:30,823 They have to send you, in writing, 435 00:21:30,923 --> 00:21:36,062 what the sex or the nudity is going to entail. 436 00:21:36,162 --> 00:21:38,665 (tense music continues) 437 00:21:38,731 --> 00:21:42,635 - The nudity rider is a very thorough list 438 00:21:42,702 --> 00:21:44,937 of what can or cannot be shown 439 00:21:46,406 --> 00:21:48,074 and what you will or will not do. 440 00:21:48,174 --> 00:21:49,776 - You have these 441 00:21:50,543 --> 00:21:53,680 fairly dry conversations 442 00:21:53,746 --> 00:21:59,786 about boob, side boob, nipple, flank. 443 00:22:00,219 --> 00:22:01,588 That's a big one, flank. 444 00:22:02,054 --> 00:22:03,723 - Let me see your tits. 445 00:22:05,692 --> 00:22:07,827 (footsteps plodding) 446 00:22:07,894 --> 00:22:09,762 - [Writer] For the purposes of this nudity consent rider, 447 00:22:09,862 --> 00:22:12,499 player agrees that player services will require 448 00:22:12,599 --> 00:22:14,901 nudity and/or simulated sex scenes in accordance 449 00:22:14,967 --> 00:22:17,336 with the terms and conditions provided herein. 450 00:22:17,404 --> 00:22:18,337 - Very nice. 451 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:23,209 - I'll show the side of my breast but not my nipple. 452 00:22:23,309 --> 00:22:26,479 I'll show my rear end, 453 00:22:26,579 --> 00:22:27,547 but I only want (eraser scratching) 454 00:22:27,647 --> 00:22:29,449 part of the butt crack to show. 455 00:22:29,549 --> 00:22:32,318 - It's sometimes a little odd to go through 456 00:22:32,419 --> 00:22:34,053 how specific it is, 457 00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,922 (pen etching) 458 00:22:36,022 --> 00:22:37,657 you know, whether you're going to see 459 00:22:37,757 --> 00:22:39,959 the nipple or not, the areola or not. 460 00:22:42,294 --> 00:22:45,164 - It even gets as specific as, like, if you have a position, 461 00:22:45,264 --> 00:22:48,067 if you're doing, like, doggie style, for example, 462 00:22:48,167 --> 00:22:49,902 it includes the anal cavity. 463 00:22:50,002 --> 00:22:51,571 - And even with the nudity rider, 464 00:22:51,671 --> 00:22:53,039 it's not entirely perfect. 465 00:22:53,139 --> 00:22:55,074 - [Executive] Thought that's what you wanted. 466 00:22:55,174 --> 00:22:56,543 - No. 467 00:22:56,643 --> 00:22:58,945 - It has definitely happened where people thought 468 00:22:59,045 --> 00:23:01,247 a scene was gonna get portrayed one way, 469 00:23:01,347 --> 00:23:03,716 and they arrive, and all of a sudden the director has 470 00:23:03,816 --> 00:23:07,787 this other, really creative idea. 471 00:23:10,089 --> 00:23:13,826 The sex scene wasn't, "Oh, we're making love." 472 00:23:13,926 --> 00:23:15,995 It's very harsh, 473 00:23:16,062 --> 00:23:17,029 (lovers moaning) 474 00:23:17,096 --> 00:23:19,666 things that they would not have agreed to 475 00:23:19,766 --> 00:23:21,568 if they had understood (lover moaning) 476 00:23:21,668 --> 00:23:26,172 how the director was going to film that nude scene. 477 00:23:26,272 --> 00:23:26,973 - [Crew] Video. 478 00:23:27,073 --> 00:23:28,541 (slate clacking) 479 00:23:28,641 --> 00:23:31,478 - And if it's not SAG, you don't have protections. 480 00:23:31,578 --> 00:23:33,279 There's a whole arena of movies 481 00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:34,481 where you're not covered by a union. 482 00:23:34,581 --> 00:23:37,750 You have no protections. 483 00:23:39,452 --> 00:23:41,387 - I went on set, and I discovered 484 00:23:41,454 --> 00:23:45,458 that I had two nude scenes, not one. 485 00:23:47,226 --> 00:23:49,696 I was told that it was gonna be empowering. 486 00:23:51,030 --> 00:23:53,800 In this industry, things happen so fast. 487 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,669 They don't really, you know, sit down with you like, 488 00:23:56,769 --> 00:23:57,436 "Oh, we're thinking about doing it this way 489 00:23:57,537 --> 00:23:59,539 or this other way." 490 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,074 When I saw the final product, 491 00:24:02,174 --> 00:24:04,811 I didn't think it was tasteful at all. 492 00:24:06,112 --> 00:24:09,448 (tense music continues) 493 00:24:11,584 --> 00:24:13,920 - [Crew] Talent to set. 494 00:24:14,854 --> 00:24:17,323 - And that's why it's really so important on a set 495 00:24:17,423 --> 00:24:19,158 to have a person who can help you enforce your rights. 496 00:24:22,328 --> 00:24:22,995 - [Director] Action. 497 00:24:26,465 --> 00:24:27,166 (brush grating) 498 00:24:32,138 --> 00:24:33,673 - The hair I'm using is human hair. 499 00:24:33,773 --> 00:24:37,109 It's permed and straightened, 500 00:24:38,745 --> 00:24:41,548 and I've got two or three different colors here, 501 00:24:41,648 --> 00:24:43,850 and I'm blending the colors together. 502 00:24:46,285 --> 00:24:47,820 (fingers brushing cloth) 503 00:24:47,887 --> 00:24:51,457 Actors that are doing mainstream entertainment 504 00:24:51,558 --> 00:24:55,762 are not signing up to do a real sex scene. 505 00:24:55,828 --> 00:24:57,664 They're not really having sex, 506 00:24:57,730 --> 00:24:59,832 but they have to really look like they are, 507 00:25:01,601 --> 00:25:03,936 so a merkin is 508 00:25:04,036 --> 00:25:06,238 essentially a pubic hair wig. 509 00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:08,708 (scissors slicing) 510 00:25:08,808 --> 00:25:09,909 And a lot of ladies say they like wearing 511 00:25:10,009 --> 00:25:11,310 the modesty garment with the merkin over it 512 00:25:11,410 --> 00:25:13,112 'cause they look totally naked, 513 00:25:13,212 --> 00:25:15,114 but they don't feel like they are. 514 00:25:15,181 --> 00:25:17,650 They feel like they're wearing an item of clothing still, 515 00:25:17,750 --> 00:25:19,018 so they feel safe. 516 00:25:20,787 --> 00:25:25,024 And then, when it's done, it's very natural looking. 517 00:25:26,358 --> 00:25:28,628 I like to present them in nice little boxes. 518 00:25:28,728 --> 00:25:30,329 Kinda makes everybody kinda comfortable 519 00:25:30,429 --> 00:25:33,933 about the whole situation, which can be very awkward. 520 00:25:35,968 --> 00:25:36,803 - [Actor] Hi, good morning. 521 00:25:36,903 --> 00:25:38,337 - Hi. - Hi. 522 00:25:38,437 --> 00:25:39,371 - Do you have any skin allergies? 523 00:25:39,471 --> 00:25:40,006 - No. 524 00:25:40,106 --> 00:25:41,140 - Perfect. 525 00:25:42,174 --> 00:25:45,311 (singer vocalzing) 526 00:25:56,155 --> 00:25:58,257 - The experience of shooting a sex scene is, 527 00:25:58,357 --> 00:26:01,694 like, the least sexy thing in the world. 528 00:26:01,794 --> 00:26:03,630 (machine buzzing) 529 00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:04,263 * Ba, ba * (hand rubbing) 530 00:26:11,270 --> 00:26:12,972 - [Zoe] They will have a modesty garment on, 531 00:26:13,072 --> 00:26:15,675 which is a very small pair of panties 532 00:26:15,775 --> 00:26:19,679 that has no sides and no back. 533 00:26:22,682 --> 00:26:24,684 - [Zoe] Some people are very nervous. 534 00:26:24,784 --> 00:26:27,586 It's not something they do every day. 535 00:26:30,823 --> 00:26:32,625 - [Director] And action, it's a rehearsal. 536 00:26:32,725 --> 00:26:34,226 (bed creaking) 537 00:26:34,326 --> 00:26:36,562 - [Jessica] It's also strange because you usually just meet, 538 00:26:36,629 --> 00:26:37,529 and there you are touching each other 539 00:26:37,630 --> 00:26:38,898 and laying all over each other. 540 00:26:38,998 --> 00:26:41,267 - [Director] One, let's have her on top now, roll over. 541 00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:45,604 - [Director] That's great. 542 00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:46,673 Hold there. 543 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,841 - [Jessica] With rehearsal, 544 00:26:48,941 --> 00:26:50,810 we just kind of walk through the steps. 545 00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:52,278 - [Director] Okay, now start over. 546 00:26:52,378 --> 00:26:54,847 - Here's the position, or now they're on the couch, 547 00:26:54,947 --> 00:26:56,548 or now you're sitting here. 548 00:26:56,615 --> 00:26:59,285 - Go right, left up, down, spin in a circle and land, 549 00:26:59,385 --> 00:27:00,987 and then the guy's gonna yank your head back. 550 00:27:03,222 --> 00:27:04,724 - You don't go to school and learn 551 00:27:04,824 --> 00:27:08,427 how to, you know, choreograph sex scenes. 552 00:27:08,527 --> 00:27:10,062 - [Crew] Cameras rolling. 553 00:27:10,162 --> 00:27:13,232 - I was on set and was working on a film 554 00:27:13,332 --> 00:27:15,334 that required quite a bit of nudity. 555 00:27:18,437 --> 00:27:23,009 The DP tried to sneakily and very slowly move the camera 556 00:27:23,109 --> 00:27:25,812 so that it could shoot the lower part of me nude 557 00:27:25,912 --> 00:27:27,213 as well as the upper part. 558 00:27:29,448 --> 00:27:31,150 Every day that I went to work after that, 559 00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:34,286 I thought about, how much had they shot 560 00:27:34,386 --> 00:27:35,788 that we hadn't caught? 561 00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:41,227 - Playing an intimate scene with another partner, 562 00:27:42,461 --> 00:27:43,429 you know, is awkward, 563 00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:45,664 and not intimate at all, and very disconnected. 564 00:27:46,298 --> 00:27:47,800 When I watched it, the nakedness 565 00:27:47,867 --> 00:27:50,770 of my body being turned 566 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:53,973 into an image for anyone to see, 567 00:27:54,073 --> 00:27:56,375 suddenly I realized my body wasn't mine. 568 00:28:01,547 --> 00:28:03,883 - You're simulating sex, 569 00:28:03,983 --> 00:28:06,085 but there's only so much simulating you can do. 570 00:28:06,152 --> 00:28:07,787 You can't simulate a kiss. 571 00:28:07,887 --> 00:28:09,355 You have to really kiss someone, 572 00:28:09,455 --> 00:28:12,258 and you have to really touch their naked body. 573 00:28:12,358 --> 00:28:13,392 Like I almost, when I have had to do sex scenes, 574 00:28:13,492 --> 00:28:16,562 and I've done many, it's almost like I go into 575 00:28:16,662 --> 00:28:17,696 a blackout, 576 00:28:17,797 --> 00:28:19,331 like I just have to get it over with. 577 00:28:19,899 --> 00:28:21,267 I wake up that morning with so much dread. 578 00:28:25,304 --> 00:28:27,373 - Oftentimes, I did what I normally do 579 00:28:27,473 --> 00:28:28,674 when I get freaked out. 580 00:28:28,775 --> 00:28:31,277 I just kind of leave my body and float up to the ceiling. 581 00:28:33,612 --> 00:28:35,782 - [Sheryl] My first tendency is almost go numb to it 582 00:28:35,848 --> 00:28:37,683 because it's too intense. 583 00:28:38,517 --> 00:28:42,221 And yet, if I do that, then I'm not present, 584 00:28:42,321 --> 00:28:45,491 and I'm not doing the best work as an actor 585 00:28:45,591 --> 00:28:46,158 that I can do. 586 00:28:51,663 --> 00:28:53,432 (actors breathing heavily) 587 00:28:53,532 --> 00:28:58,437 - With American puritanism, it's hard to talk about sex. 588 00:28:59,605 --> 00:29:01,373 Sex is taboo. 589 00:29:02,341 --> 00:29:06,979 It is the realm of real people in real bodies having 590 00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:09,248 relations with one another. 591 00:29:09,348 --> 00:29:13,419 That's not so comfortable to the filmmakers. 592 00:29:13,519 --> 00:29:14,253 - Say mercy. - No. 593 00:29:14,486 --> 00:29:15,254 - Come on. - No. 594 00:29:15,554 --> 00:29:16,622 - Say mercy. - No. 595 00:29:17,023 --> 00:29:18,724 - The first sex scene I ever did was 596 00:29:18,825 --> 00:29:20,426 on my first feature, "D.E.B.S.," 597 00:29:20,793 --> 00:29:22,228 and I was so nervous. 598 00:29:23,762 --> 00:29:28,034 - Nobody feels comfortable talking about sex, period. 599 00:29:28,134 --> 00:29:29,836 (laughs) Nobody feels comfortable 600 00:29:29,902 --> 00:29:31,070 saying they're uncomfortable. 601 00:29:31,503 --> 00:29:33,172 - It's a moment of intimacy. 602 00:29:35,241 --> 00:29:36,943 - Trying to have, like, a 10 minute conversation 603 00:29:37,043 --> 00:29:38,744 with a director or a producer to be like, 604 00:29:38,845 --> 00:29:40,446 "So, you're are okay with these things?" 605 00:29:40,546 --> 00:29:41,580 check, check, check is not 606 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:46,452 a very thorough way to define your boundaries. 607 00:29:50,489 --> 00:29:54,260 - There is so much shame around the body, 608 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,394 around desire. 609 00:29:57,196 --> 00:30:00,532 There are a lot of directors who don't know how to talk 610 00:30:00,599 --> 00:30:04,003 about sex because it remains 611 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:07,473 this forbidden area of our lives. 612 00:30:09,842 --> 00:30:11,543 (door thudding) 613 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:15,948 (dramatic music) 614 00:30:17,616 --> 00:30:21,287 - Oh, God, oh, Jesus Christ. 615 00:30:21,387 --> 00:30:25,024 - [Linda] The 1960s and the early '70s were 616 00:30:25,124 --> 00:30:26,492 the era of sexual revolution. 617 00:30:29,095 --> 00:30:30,930 Everything was changing, 618 00:30:32,764 --> 00:30:38,537 and with the rise of hardcore pornography on big screens, 619 00:30:39,338 --> 00:30:42,641 the avant garde like Andy Warhol's art films 620 00:30:42,741 --> 00:30:45,878 and the Europeans leading the way, 621 00:30:46,345 --> 00:30:50,549 I think it just became absurd for movies to pretend 622 00:30:50,649 --> 00:30:53,552 that the era of the code was still operating. 623 00:30:54,820 --> 00:30:57,589 - Mom. this is John. 624 00:30:58,857 --> 00:31:00,559 (upbeat music) 625 00:31:02,561 --> 00:31:06,398 - [Linda] The world of European sexual liberty- 626 00:31:06,798 --> 00:31:08,534 - He is. 627 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,138 - and American prudery sort of come together 628 00:31:12,204 --> 00:31:14,340 in the career of Jane Fonda. 629 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:15,841 - Man, you sure do look different. 630 00:31:15,942 --> 00:31:19,311 - Oh, boy, you not only don't talk much, you don't say much. 631 00:31:19,411 --> 00:31:20,412 In the first part of my career 632 00:31:20,512 --> 00:31:23,649 when I was playing ingenue roles here 633 00:31:23,749 --> 00:31:25,184 in the United States, 634 00:31:25,284 --> 00:31:27,019 I was never asked to take my clothes off. 635 00:31:27,086 --> 00:31:29,455 I mean, this was late '50s, early '60s. 636 00:31:29,555 --> 00:31:32,291 It wasn't until I went to France (laughs) 637 00:31:32,391 --> 00:31:35,461 under the guidance of Roger Vadim. 638 00:31:35,527 --> 00:31:39,831 I fell in love with him, and I eventually married him. 639 00:31:39,932 --> 00:31:41,167 I knew what I was getting into. 640 00:31:41,233 --> 00:31:43,035 He never made a movie where women weren't undressed. 641 00:31:43,669 --> 00:31:46,338 So, I knew that was coming along, and it did, 642 00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:46,472 and I did it. 643 00:31:48,740 --> 00:31:51,177 (upbeat music) 644 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,418 Roger promised me that he would use the letters 645 00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:02,621 of the titles to cover the important things, 646 00:32:06,158 --> 00:32:10,162 which was only partly realized. 647 00:32:13,699 --> 00:32:16,335 I was utterly terrified. 648 00:32:16,768 --> 00:32:17,769 I was 30. 649 00:32:17,869 --> 00:32:19,238 I should have known better, 650 00:32:19,871 --> 00:32:22,308 but I was at a place in my life 651 00:32:22,408 --> 00:32:25,511 when, if you were asked to do something, 652 00:32:25,611 --> 00:32:27,579 especially by a man, you did it. 653 00:32:30,649 --> 00:32:32,118 (upbeat music continues) 654 00:32:34,853 --> 00:32:37,423 I didn't know anything about nudity clauses, 655 00:32:37,489 --> 00:32:39,791 and contracts, and all those other things. 656 00:32:39,891 --> 00:32:40,559 I just did what I was told, 657 00:32:43,129 --> 00:32:47,533 and so I just got drunk (laughs) basically. 658 00:32:49,801 --> 00:32:52,504 - Now, it was possible to play with different rules, 659 00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:55,907 but the different rules were not 660 00:32:56,708 --> 00:33:00,046 a whole lot different from the old rules. 661 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,516 I think these early films show 662 00:33:04,616 --> 00:33:09,588 how, for men, sex is a very homosocial relation, 663 00:33:10,822 --> 00:33:13,725 whether it's Jon Voight and Dustin Hoffman 664 00:33:13,825 --> 00:33:15,294 in "Midnight Cowboy," 665 00:33:17,196 --> 00:33:19,765 - [Linda] or Art Garfunkel and Jack Nicholson 666 00:33:19,865 --> 00:33:21,733 in "Carnal Knowledge." 667 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:23,169 - What do you say? 668 00:33:23,269 --> 00:33:26,305 - [Linda] What the man is often doing is proving 669 00:33:26,405 --> 00:33:31,310 his virility to his friends via a woman. 670 00:33:32,711 --> 00:33:36,982 Breasts were now completely available for looking at, 671 00:33:37,816 --> 00:33:42,621 but male frontal nudity was really frowned on. 672 00:33:43,222 --> 00:33:45,591 - Real portrayal of romance and intimacy 673 00:33:47,093 --> 00:33:49,828 as it's practiced in life weren't part 674 00:33:49,928 --> 00:33:53,099 of the American cinematic lexicon 675 00:33:53,199 --> 00:33:56,468 for decades, and decades, and decades. 676 00:33:56,535 --> 00:33:57,703 (upbeat music) 677 00:33:57,803 --> 00:34:01,473 And suddenly, when censorship lifted in the 1960s, 678 00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:06,112 we went from having romance without sex 679 00:34:06,212 --> 00:34:08,013 to having sex without romance. 680 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,616 (lover moaning) 681 00:34:11,549 --> 00:34:16,254 - Oh, yeah, wait, why don't you turn out the lights? 682 00:34:16,988 --> 00:34:20,192 (confrontational music) 683 00:34:20,292 --> 00:34:23,595 - In the '70s so-called blaxploitation films, 684 00:34:23,694 --> 00:34:27,766 you see a lot of sex, drugs, lots of female nudity, 685 00:34:30,102 --> 00:34:32,270 and these different characters 686 00:34:32,371 --> 00:34:36,142 who were not Sidney Poitier being accepted 687 00:34:36,241 --> 00:34:38,277 into a white world. 688 00:34:39,611 --> 00:34:43,149 You have bad-ass heroes, right, Black heroes. 689 00:34:46,485 --> 00:34:49,321 They spoke to the Black Power movement 690 00:34:49,588 --> 00:34:52,491 and the Black feminist movement. 691 00:34:53,325 --> 00:34:57,129 - You want me to crawl, white motherfucker? 692 00:34:57,229 --> 00:34:58,930 - What are you doing? 693 00:34:58,997 --> 00:35:00,166 Put that down. 694 00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:02,434 - You wanna spit on me and make me crawl? 695 00:35:02,534 --> 00:35:04,803 - The people loved it (laughs). 696 00:35:06,305 --> 00:35:08,474 We were breaking all kinds of records. 697 00:35:09,375 --> 00:35:12,778 - [Stephane] Black women were, quote, "sex goddesses" 698 00:35:12,878 --> 00:35:14,480 for the very first time. 699 00:35:16,382 --> 00:35:18,650 - For our hue, it was new. 700 00:35:18,750 --> 00:35:23,755 How many love scenes did you see of us in any movie 701 00:35:23,855 --> 00:35:26,024 during that period of the '60s and '70s? 702 00:35:26,124 --> 00:35:27,125 None. 703 00:35:28,327 --> 00:35:29,328 - But, of course, there was controversy 704 00:35:29,428 --> 00:35:31,029 from the very beginning. 705 00:35:31,129 --> 00:35:32,264 - (laughing) Hey. 706 00:35:32,331 --> 00:35:33,999 - There's harems of women who are 707 00:35:34,065 --> 00:35:35,801 at the disposal of these men, 708 00:35:37,403 --> 00:35:42,241 which really highlighted their sexual bodies, 709 00:35:42,308 --> 00:35:43,242 (funky music) 710 00:35:43,675 --> 00:35:47,179 sort of an extreme voyeuristic eroticism. 711 00:35:51,883 --> 00:35:53,719 * Live any let die * 712 00:35:56,154 --> 00:35:57,723 - Turn around slowly. 713 00:35:58,557 --> 00:36:00,125 - [Stephane] Course, you had Gloria Hendry, 714 00:36:00,226 --> 00:36:02,328 who was first Black woman being a Bond girl. 715 00:36:03,729 --> 00:36:06,465 - Oh, beautiful, brave, and now resourceful. 716 00:36:06,565 --> 00:36:08,367 - [Stephane] It was really a watershed moment. 717 00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:09,735 (peaceful music) 718 00:36:10,702 --> 00:36:12,538 But the film only goes so far. 719 00:36:16,442 --> 00:36:17,576 - [Gloria] I think that the white people were scared 720 00:36:17,676 --> 00:36:20,679 of the repercussions of their base, 721 00:36:20,779 --> 00:36:24,216 having a black actress wind up with Bond. 722 00:36:24,283 --> 00:36:25,083 - Oh, James. 723 00:36:25,183 --> 00:36:27,686 (dramatic music) 724 00:36:28,019 --> 00:36:28,787 (dart whooshing) 725 00:36:31,089 --> 00:36:32,958 - She's killed, of course. 726 00:36:33,024 --> 00:36:36,462 A Black actress couldn't possibly wind up with Bond. 727 00:36:39,231 --> 00:36:41,900 (brooding music) 728 00:36:55,881 --> 00:36:57,749 - Out of 5,000 pairs of legs, I was chosen, 729 00:36:59,718 --> 00:37:01,987 and I thought, "Wow, no one's ever gonna know 730 00:37:02,087 --> 00:37:04,256 that it's me on the screen." 731 00:37:05,457 --> 00:37:07,058 It was just like a cattle call, and they were like, 732 00:37:07,158 --> 00:37:07,959 "Your legs, yes. 733 00:37:08,059 --> 00:37:08,760 Your legs, no. 734 00:37:08,860 --> 00:37:08,927 Your legs, maybe." 735 00:37:10,896 --> 00:37:13,732 - [Director] Okay, let's bring in the body double. 736 00:37:13,832 --> 00:37:15,133 Okay, good, stay right in there. 737 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:16,167 - Hi. - Hi. 738 00:37:16,268 --> 00:37:17,869 - I'm Mindy, pleased to meet you. 739 00:37:17,969 --> 00:37:18,870 - [Actor] Nice to meet you. 740 00:37:18,970 --> 00:37:21,973 - Our body is on the film that you're seeing. 741 00:37:22,841 --> 00:37:26,378 You're there to make the actress look perfect, 742 00:37:26,478 --> 00:37:28,347 (water pattering) 743 00:37:28,447 --> 00:37:33,452 perfect legs, perfect breasts, perfect body. 744 00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:35,321 - I think the public would be shocked to find out 745 00:37:35,787 --> 00:37:39,090 how many hands aren't really the hand 746 00:37:39,157 --> 00:37:41,993 (laughs) of the talent or the butt of the talent. 747 00:37:43,362 --> 00:37:48,033 - Kim Basinger, Madonna, Barbara Streisand. 748 00:37:48,634 --> 00:37:50,068 In "Pretty Woman," the whole opening scene 749 00:37:50,168 --> 00:37:53,271 where she's getting dressed to meet Richard Gear, 750 00:37:53,372 --> 00:37:54,640 that's my body. 751 00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:59,745 Body doubling is really hush-hush. 752 00:38:01,947 --> 00:38:03,615 - I was Janet Lee's acting double 753 00:38:03,682 --> 00:38:05,484 in the shower scene of "Psycho." 754 00:38:06,552 --> 00:38:07,919 You don't see her face. 755 00:38:08,019 --> 00:38:09,054 That's me. 756 00:38:09,154 --> 00:38:10,489 (creepy music) 757 00:38:10,589 --> 00:38:12,257 (bather screaming) 758 00:38:12,324 --> 00:38:13,258 That's the back of my head, 759 00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:16,294 my hands, my arms, my belly button. 760 00:38:17,396 --> 00:38:19,431 (dramatic music) 761 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,071 Janet Lee wrote her biography, and she let on 762 00:38:26,171 --> 00:38:27,506 that she did the whole thing. 763 00:38:28,073 --> 00:38:30,842 (clicks tongue) Pissed me off (laughs) 764 00:38:32,110 --> 00:38:32,911 that I wasn't recognized. 765 00:38:33,445 --> 00:38:34,846 (fire crackling) 766 00:38:34,946 --> 00:38:40,018 - In "Rising Sun," I was the live body sushi plate. 767 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:42,721 (glass shattering) (residents screaming) 768 00:38:43,088 --> 00:38:44,255 - [Police Officer] Police. - SWAT team was breaking 769 00:38:44,356 --> 00:38:45,223 through the window, and I'm there nude 770 00:38:45,323 --> 00:38:46,091 with the sushi on me, 771 00:38:46,825 --> 00:38:47,793 and I remember looking away saying, 772 00:38:47,893 --> 00:38:49,895 "I'm not gonna get cut by the glass." 773 00:38:52,130 --> 00:38:53,331 But if your a body double, 774 00:38:53,399 --> 00:38:54,366 they pull you out like a chicken dinner. 775 00:38:54,466 --> 00:38:55,834 You're like, "Bring out the breast, 776 00:38:55,934 --> 00:38:58,336 bring out the thighs, bring out the leg." 777 00:38:58,437 --> 00:39:00,138 They just think, "Oh, you're just there." 778 00:39:00,238 --> 00:39:01,840 You're just kind of not real. 779 00:39:04,175 --> 00:39:04,910 (mouse clicking) 780 00:39:11,282 --> 00:39:15,421 - Somebody in the producing department wants there 781 00:39:15,521 --> 00:39:17,723 to be less smile lines, 782 00:39:17,823 --> 00:39:18,557 (mouse clicking) 783 00:39:18,657 --> 00:39:20,792 so it aged her down slightly. 784 00:39:23,862 --> 00:39:26,498 My work consists of visual effects, generally, 785 00:39:26,598 --> 00:39:29,868 but a lot of requests I get from clients is 786 00:39:29,968 --> 00:39:31,036 to do beauty work. 787 00:39:32,438 --> 00:39:33,972 (mouse clicking) 788 00:39:34,072 --> 00:39:36,708 She's got her little mole here, just sample it 789 00:39:37,075 --> 00:39:38,644 and erase it. 790 00:39:39,478 --> 00:39:43,348 Removing blemishes, freckles, pubic hair, 791 00:39:43,449 --> 00:39:46,718 slimming people up, making 'em look younger. 792 00:39:47,686 --> 00:39:50,021 It was a heavily guarded secret when it first came out. 793 00:39:50,121 --> 00:39:54,025 Now, most people on television and film get it done. 794 00:40:03,835 --> 00:40:06,672 As far as making somebody look younger, 795 00:40:06,772 --> 00:40:09,374 it's mostly a request for women, 796 00:40:10,375 --> 00:40:13,679 cleaning up, like, bags under the eyes or neck wrinkles. 797 00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:16,782 I get asked to do face replacements a lot, 798 00:40:16,882 --> 00:40:20,285 and usually, that has to do with stunts. 799 00:40:20,351 --> 00:40:22,988 So, if there's a stunt double, and their face is visible, 800 00:40:23,088 --> 00:40:26,191 then we put the actual actor's face on the stunt. 801 00:40:26,658 --> 00:40:27,793 But they're starting to do this 802 00:40:27,893 --> 00:40:29,728 more often for beauty purposes, 803 00:40:29,828 --> 00:40:32,030 so you get a stunt body or a body double. 804 00:40:34,032 --> 00:40:37,869 In "Game of Thrones," it was somebody else's body, 805 00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,138 and her head was literally stitched 806 00:40:40,205 --> 00:40:41,439 right on top of that body. 807 00:40:43,241 --> 00:40:46,478 There was a request that came in from a client for me 808 00:40:46,578 --> 00:40:50,148 to remove a postnatal belly 809 00:40:50,916 --> 00:40:52,851 because this actress had just given birth. 810 00:40:55,220 --> 00:40:58,857 So, that was just a matter of taking her body, 811 00:40:58,957 --> 00:41:01,827 rotoing it out, cutting it out, squeezing it, 812 00:41:01,927 --> 00:41:04,663 and then basically putting it right back on 813 00:41:04,763 --> 00:41:05,931 and cleaning up the background 814 00:41:06,031 --> 00:41:07,699 wherever her belly would've been. 815 00:41:08,634 --> 00:41:09,801 (mouse clicking) 816 00:41:09,901 --> 00:41:12,370 This is before, and that's after. 817 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:13,805 (mouse clicking) 818 00:41:13,905 --> 00:41:15,907 Actors and actresses buy into it, and they persist it, 819 00:41:16,007 --> 00:41:18,910 and they ask for it because they believe 820 00:41:19,010 --> 00:41:21,780 that this is important, and this is needed, 821 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,148 and that we need to portray our best selves. 822 00:41:25,951 --> 00:41:27,052 We should all be looking like China dolls. 823 00:41:27,152 --> 00:41:30,956 You know, we should all have flawless faces. 824 00:41:31,923 --> 00:41:34,626 - Whatever we do, we always wanna look our very best. 825 00:41:36,127 --> 00:41:40,999 - I don't respond to ultra beauty in my life. 826 00:41:41,667 --> 00:41:44,903 I like flaws, and I like to see natural people. 827 00:41:44,970 --> 00:41:47,573 I feel like I'm part of the problem 828 00:41:47,673 --> 00:41:48,206 instead of the solution for that. 829 00:41:50,576 --> 00:41:51,610 (bathers chattering indistinctly) 830 00:41:54,646 --> 00:41:55,947 - Dammit, it's Barbara McNeil. 831 00:41:57,783 --> 00:42:00,051 - [Mick] In American movies, 832 00:42:00,118 --> 00:42:01,753 (footsteps plodding) - Mind if I join you? 833 00:42:01,853 --> 00:42:04,522 - [Mick] there has always been limits 834 00:42:04,623 --> 00:42:06,958 to who's allowed to be sexual. 835 00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:10,128 (bather sighs) (water sloshing) 836 00:42:10,228 --> 00:42:13,064 - I worked for a television producer earlier in my career, 837 00:42:13,164 --> 00:42:16,868 who, when we were casting day-player roles, said 838 00:42:16,968 --> 00:42:19,571 "There are no fat women in my shows." 839 00:42:20,538 --> 00:42:22,040 And I remember, at the time, going, 840 00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:25,143 "Wow, like, he's created a whole universe," 841 00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:28,079 and it's true, in his brand, there are no fat women. 842 00:42:29,414 --> 00:42:31,316 I'm fat. 843 00:42:31,416 --> 00:42:32,818 That's not a bad word. 844 00:42:32,918 --> 00:42:36,287 And I am fat naked and in front of a lover, too. 845 00:42:37,355 --> 00:42:39,825 I only see that as a joke. 846 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:43,762 - I get it. 847 00:42:43,862 --> 00:42:45,664 You're self-conscious about your body. 848 00:42:46,331 --> 00:42:48,066 Don't worry, I was gonna shut the lights off anyway. 849 00:42:48,166 --> 00:42:50,335 - But then it causes for us to be like, 850 00:42:50,435 --> 00:42:50,969 "Turn off the lights. 851 00:42:51,069 --> 00:42:51,903 Don't see me." 852 00:42:51,970 --> 00:42:55,106 What we see on the screen affects 853 00:42:55,173 --> 00:42:57,709 what you take into the bedroom. 854 00:42:57,809 --> 00:42:59,878 - You're cool with going out the back again, right? 855 00:42:59,978 --> 00:43:00,712 - Um. 856 00:43:02,380 --> 00:43:05,050 - It is very few, very few, 857 00:43:05,751 --> 00:43:11,156 extremely rare, and far between to see people 858 00:43:11,222 --> 00:43:14,926 with disabilities in sexual situations. 859 00:43:15,827 --> 00:43:20,565 So, people don't genuinely think that it exists. 860 00:43:21,032 --> 00:43:24,602 - I don't want you to miss all the things 861 00:43:24,703 --> 00:43:26,337 that someone else could give you. 862 00:43:26,404 --> 00:43:27,338 (dramatic music) Luisa. 863 00:43:30,341 --> 00:43:31,810 - I once told my manager, 864 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:34,512 "I'm not gonna play anybody in a hospital. 865 00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:37,548 I'm not gonna play anymore lawyers 866 00:43:37,649 --> 00:43:39,985 or desexualized trans people, 867 00:43:40,085 --> 00:43:41,920 and I'm not gonna play anyone 868 00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:43,722 who visits anybody in a hospital," 869 00:43:43,822 --> 00:43:45,223 and I didn't work for two years. 870 00:43:46,357 --> 00:43:48,459 So, if I keep taking the hormones. 871 00:43:48,526 --> 00:43:49,795 - You'd be feeding the cancer. 872 00:43:49,895 --> 00:43:54,465 - Are you saying, if I become a woman, I could die? 873 00:43:55,333 --> 00:43:58,269 - In Hollywood, exclusion is part of the story. 874 00:44:00,505 --> 00:44:01,572 - Hey, try this. 875 00:44:02,007 --> 00:44:03,508 - [Angela] When I was a teenager, 876 00:44:03,608 --> 00:44:06,712 there wasn't that much queer representation at all. 877 00:44:06,778 --> 00:44:08,146 - So, what do you think? (utensil clinking) 878 00:44:08,246 --> 00:44:10,882 - You'd, like, scour the video store 879 00:44:10,982 --> 00:44:14,853 for, like, obtuse glances between women on video boxes. 880 00:44:16,221 --> 00:44:20,458 - In the "Color Purple," these women love each other. 881 00:44:20,558 --> 00:44:21,827 They see each other sexually, 882 00:44:21,927 --> 00:44:25,997 but doesn't go full on into sex scenes. 883 00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:31,369 (brooding music) 884 00:44:32,437 --> 00:44:34,372 - [Lover] You two have met, haven't you? 885 00:44:34,472 --> 00:44:38,076 - [Angela] Or, it's about some weird male fantasy spectacle. 886 00:44:40,879 --> 00:44:42,147 - And we have to remember the sensors are 887 00:44:42,247 --> 00:44:45,316 white, cisgender, heteronormative men 888 00:44:47,018 --> 00:44:48,453 who said, "Look, if you're gonna do this, 889 00:44:48,553 --> 00:44:52,490 if you're gonna be naked, we wanna see two women together 890 00:44:52,590 --> 00:44:53,424 'cause that's art." 891 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,461 Right? 892 00:44:56,527 --> 00:44:56,862 Penises are pornography. 893 00:44:56,962 --> 00:44:58,696 Tits are art. 894 00:45:00,832 --> 00:45:03,401 (singer vocalizing) 895 00:45:12,844 --> 00:45:14,045 - Film has been 896 00:45:15,180 --> 00:45:18,283 men showing other men what they see. 897 00:45:20,051 --> 00:45:21,352 - What is visual pleasure? 898 00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:31,062 - It's not actually about watching two other people. 899 00:45:31,162 --> 00:45:33,865 All it is is about the male fantasy. 900 00:45:36,567 --> 00:45:41,506 - I don't know anything that I saw growing up that told me 901 00:45:41,940 --> 00:45:44,042 that I could have the agenda 902 00:45:44,142 --> 00:45:45,944 of being the one who wanted the pleasure. 903 00:45:48,646 --> 00:45:51,917 Nobody actually tells a woman that, when she has sex, 904 00:45:52,017 --> 00:45:54,085 you know, there is a space 905 00:45:54,152 --> 00:45:55,887 where she gets to have the pleasure. 906 00:45:56,521 --> 00:45:59,157 She's not the one just giving pleasure. 907 00:46:00,058 --> 00:46:03,394 - How women are satisfied, what that looks like, 908 00:46:03,494 --> 00:46:06,464 how that works in real life, 909 00:46:06,564 --> 00:46:08,533 like, it's still a mystery, I think, to so many people. 910 00:46:14,405 --> 00:46:16,041 (singer vocalizing) 911 00:46:18,743 --> 00:46:19,777 - [Lover] Tell me what you think. 912 00:46:25,716 --> 00:46:26,952 - Think about all the movies 913 00:46:27,052 --> 00:46:28,353 where men would be having an important conversation- 914 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,122 - Here's to old friends. 915 00:46:31,222 --> 00:46:32,390 - and hot women would just be sitting at the table 916 00:46:32,457 --> 00:46:33,959 while it's happening just, like, 917 00:46:34,025 --> 00:46:35,493 kind of just there as decoration. 918 00:46:35,894 --> 00:46:38,629 - This round's on me. 919 00:46:39,064 --> 00:46:41,099 - [Joey] The way in which women can just be 920 00:46:41,199 --> 00:46:45,036 kind of present but unnecessary. 921 00:46:45,803 --> 00:46:49,007 - You be the man, and you be the woman. 922 00:46:49,107 --> 00:46:52,077 - You had to cast those two girls, 923 00:46:52,143 --> 00:46:56,014 and they had to sit there fake fucking all day, 924 00:46:56,114 --> 00:46:58,549 and it's kind of a bummer (laughs). 925 00:46:59,250 --> 00:47:01,452 - I think it really does damage to girls in particular. 926 00:47:01,552 --> 00:47:06,424 That's what bothers me, girls feeling that they have 927 00:47:06,491 --> 00:47:09,861 to behave a certain way and look a certain way. 928 00:47:12,463 --> 00:47:14,465 Without even consciously realizing it, 929 00:47:14,565 --> 00:47:18,069 they will just assume that they are less than. 930 00:47:19,304 --> 00:47:21,940 That they don't quite count as much. 931 00:47:23,474 --> 00:47:27,946 - The more that we perpetuate and condone women 932 00:47:28,046 --> 00:47:30,248 as being merely sex objects, 933 00:47:30,348 --> 00:47:34,219 the more readily boys grow into men thinking 934 00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:36,787 that that's how women wanna be treated. 935 00:47:37,755 --> 00:47:38,489 It's in every movie and TV show they've ever watched. 936 00:47:40,926 --> 00:47:42,560 (dramatic music continues) 937 00:47:47,899 --> 00:47:50,035 (footsteps plodding) 938 00:47:51,903 --> 00:47:52,470 (passenger whistling) 939 00:47:54,839 --> 00:47:55,573 (passenger whistling) 940 00:48:08,586 --> 00:48:11,322 - Actors who are starting out are used in these films 941 00:48:11,422 --> 00:48:13,858 that ask for nudity and sex scenes 942 00:48:13,959 --> 00:48:16,727 because they don't know how to advocate for themselves, 943 00:48:16,827 --> 00:48:18,396 or they don't have the power to advocate for themselves. 944 00:48:18,496 --> 00:48:22,533 An A-list actor who's asked to do a nude scene, 945 00:48:22,633 --> 00:48:24,402 they can have a body double. 946 00:48:24,502 --> 00:48:25,703 They get to say, "The light has to be dim, 947 00:48:25,803 --> 00:48:28,673 and the actor can only touch me from here to here." 948 00:48:28,773 --> 00:48:31,409 It's like I have never had 949 00:48:31,509 --> 00:48:34,112 that much protection in a film, 950 00:48:34,212 --> 00:48:36,647 but I've done nudity a lot. 951 00:48:36,747 --> 00:48:39,017 (laughs) Like, I've done sex scenes a lot. 952 00:48:39,117 --> 00:48:40,518 It's like, "Oh, you have to pay your dues, 953 00:48:40,618 --> 00:48:42,453 and you just have to be grateful 954 00:48:42,553 --> 00:48:43,454 that you're here at all." 955 00:48:50,095 --> 00:48:51,997 - I'm not some great, fabulous beauty. 956 00:48:52,063 --> 00:48:54,132 When I walk into a room, people don't turn around 957 00:48:54,232 --> 00:48:54,966 and go, like, "Who's that girl? 958 00:48:55,033 --> 00:48:56,067 Put her in the picture." 959 00:48:58,369 --> 00:49:01,839 - I started taking classes at James Franco's acting school. 960 00:49:02,507 --> 00:49:06,011 When James took a chance on me, I was so grateful. 961 00:49:09,547 --> 00:49:13,584 The way that I got hired for "The Long Home" was 962 00:49:13,684 --> 00:49:16,154 by getting a text message from James. 963 00:49:16,254 --> 00:49:17,055 (camera clicking) He said, 964 00:49:17,155 --> 00:49:18,623 "I want you to be in my movie. 965 00:49:18,723 --> 00:49:20,125 Nudity will be required. 966 00:49:20,225 --> 00:49:21,092 You're playing a prostitute. 967 00:49:21,192 --> 00:49:22,293 Do you wanna do it?" 968 00:49:22,393 --> 00:49:23,528 (camera clicking) And I said, 969 00:49:23,628 --> 00:49:26,631 "Absolutely, like, no questions asked, yes." 970 00:49:27,398 --> 00:49:27,632 (dramatic music continues) 971 00:49:32,303 --> 00:49:35,706 - Hey, Candy, they want you. 972 00:49:38,409 --> 00:49:40,845 - And then, things started to sort of get a little tricky 973 00:49:40,945 --> 00:49:44,115 because there were some scenes that were added that weren't 974 00:49:44,215 --> 00:49:46,351 in the script that required nudity, 975 00:49:48,253 --> 00:49:49,520 and one actress didn't wanna do it. 976 00:49:53,291 --> 00:49:55,160 The next thing I know, she's on a plane back to LA, 977 00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:56,727 and she's not in the movie. 978 00:49:56,827 --> 00:50:00,198 And I realized, if I do something like that, 979 00:50:00,298 --> 00:50:01,566 if I say, "I'm uncomfortable with this, 980 00:50:01,632 --> 00:50:04,202 I don't wanna do this," I'll lose my job. 981 00:50:11,209 --> 00:50:12,343 - Sarah Scott is an actress 982 00:50:12,443 --> 00:50:14,379 whose most recent work includes 983 00:50:14,479 --> 00:50:17,248 an appearance on the Seth McFarland show "The Orville," 984 00:50:17,348 --> 00:50:18,749 and she played Courtney Love in the film 985 00:50:18,849 --> 00:50:19,617 "Soaked in Bleach." 986 00:50:19,717 --> 00:50:20,985 Thank you for having the courage 987 00:50:21,086 --> 00:50:22,687 to come in and talk to us. 988 00:50:23,588 --> 00:50:25,990 This is an incident that happened in May of '18, 2018. 989 00:50:26,091 --> 00:50:29,026 - Mm-hmm, it's an independent TV pilot. 990 00:50:29,127 --> 00:50:31,129 It was the last scene of the day. 991 00:50:32,263 --> 00:50:35,133 (phone buttons clicking) 992 00:50:36,201 --> 00:50:38,103 I remember being really cold that night 993 00:50:38,203 --> 00:50:40,405 and made mention of it. 994 00:50:41,406 --> 00:50:44,275 My scene partner cuddled up to me 995 00:50:44,375 --> 00:50:46,077 and said he would keep me warm. 996 00:50:47,678 --> 00:50:49,980 Knowing that we were about to start kissing, 997 00:50:50,081 --> 00:50:51,182 I just kind of went with that. 998 00:50:51,282 --> 00:50:52,417 That was fine. 999 00:50:52,517 --> 00:50:54,619 He cuddled up to me, and didn't think much of it. 1000 00:50:57,688 --> 00:51:01,292 At that point, he took my hand under the covers 1001 00:51:01,392 --> 00:51:05,663 and brought it over to his erection. 1002 00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:11,336 (characters breathing heavily) 1003 00:51:17,942 --> 00:51:19,310 I pulled my hand back 1004 00:51:19,410 --> 00:51:20,811 and looked back over my shoulder, like, 1005 00:51:21,879 --> 00:51:22,780 And he just said, "Sorry." 1006 00:51:26,717 --> 00:51:28,253 (Sarah S. sighs) 1007 00:51:28,353 --> 00:51:29,754 I've thought a lot about this. 1008 00:51:30,455 --> 00:51:31,656 I'm not upset with myself 1009 00:51:31,722 --> 00:51:32,790 that I didn't do something in the moment. 1010 00:51:32,890 --> 00:51:36,060 I'm very well aware that that's very common. 1011 00:51:36,794 --> 00:51:40,465 A lot of the women I've spoken to don't ever say anything, 1012 00:51:40,531 --> 00:51:45,102 and I think being in a professional setting, 1013 00:51:45,203 --> 00:51:47,238 I also just wanted to be a professional 1014 00:51:47,338 --> 00:51:49,540 and keep going and finish the day off. 1015 00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,841 - Cut, terrific. 1016 00:51:55,513 --> 00:51:59,550 - And so, after the day had wrapped up, 1017 00:51:59,650 --> 00:52:02,086 and I was getting ready to leave for the night, 1018 00:52:02,820 --> 00:52:05,790 my co-star walks through my dressing room 1019 00:52:05,890 --> 00:52:09,394 and starts telling me that he's got a hard on. 1020 00:52:09,494 --> 00:52:11,562 He's gotta go jerk off in the bathroom. 1021 00:52:12,297 --> 00:52:14,799 When I turned around, he had taken out his penis 1022 00:52:14,899 --> 00:52:17,168 and started to masturbate in front of me, 1023 00:52:17,268 --> 00:52:18,369 two feet in front of me, 1024 00:52:19,136 --> 00:52:20,171 and that's when I left. 1025 00:52:20,971 --> 00:52:24,409 - So, he did, however, in the "LA Times," give 1026 00:52:24,509 --> 00:52:26,511 a statement saying that he was apologizing. 1027 00:52:26,611 --> 00:52:29,214 He said he admitted that he had put 1028 00:52:29,314 --> 00:52:31,316 your hand on his penis during a sex scene, 1029 00:52:31,416 --> 00:52:32,750 but he said you were sexually aggressive. 1030 00:52:34,952 --> 00:52:39,224 - It was really disturbing to see what a convincing case 1031 00:52:40,391 --> 00:52:43,761 he made in playing this sort of doe-eyed, 1032 00:52:43,861 --> 00:52:46,531 innocent, embarrassed, 1033 00:52:46,631 --> 00:52:48,766 "Oops, you know, I misread the situation," 1034 00:52:49,567 --> 00:52:51,001 and then even used the words 1035 00:52:51,536 --> 00:52:53,771 that, "I just mistook this for a perk of our jobs." 1036 00:52:54,605 --> 00:52:58,008 It just became so clear to me that I was dealing 1037 00:52:58,108 --> 00:53:00,911 with someone who was a a predator. 1038 00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:02,747 (somber music) 1039 00:53:04,815 --> 00:53:08,553 I've been a proud union member for over 15 years. 1040 00:53:08,653 --> 00:53:11,256 That's how I have my health insurance 1041 00:53:11,356 --> 00:53:12,890 and support my family. 1042 00:53:13,524 --> 00:53:14,825 So, the way that I see myself is 1043 00:53:14,925 --> 00:53:18,195 that I'm kind of a blue-collar working actor. 1044 00:53:19,630 --> 00:53:24,134 - Okay, ladies, I wanna see ya dance, 1045 00:53:24,235 --> 00:53:25,670 and I wanna see ya smile. 1046 00:53:28,306 --> 00:53:29,507 And you. 1047 00:53:29,607 --> 00:53:31,075 - I started to get this feeling like I was 1048 00:53:31,175 --> 00:53:32,176 the first actress 1049 00:53:32,243 --> 00:53:34,211 to ever call the union and say, 1050 00:53:34,279 --> 00:53:35,846 "Hey, I've been sexually violated at work." 1051 00:53:38,015 --> 00:53:39,284 - It's interesting because 1052 00:53:39,384 --> 00:53:41,419 the SAG-AFTRA basic agreement is 1053 00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:44,154 800 pages or something like that, 1054 00:53:44,255 --> 00:53:46,257 and nudity is, like, a page, 1055 00:53:46,357 --> 00:53:47,057 if that. - Hmm. 1056 00:53:47,157 --> 00:53:47,858 It's like- 1057 00:53:47,958 --> 00:53:49,126 - Yeah. - Wow. 1058 00:53:49,226 --> 00:53:49,927 It's, like, I literally have it- 1059 00:53:49,994 --> 00:53:51,128 - Wow. - Right here on, 1060 00:53:51,195 --> 00:53:51,929 it's half a page. 1061 00:53:52,029 --> 00:53:52,997 It's this. - Wow. 1062 00:53:53,063 --> 00:53:55,032 (Amanda laughs) - And sexual harassment is 1063 00:53:55,132 --> 00:53:57,001 not mentioned in 800 pages. 1064 00:53:57,067 --> 00:53:57,768 - Really? - Yeah. 1065 00:53:57,868 --> 00:53:58,636 - [Sarah S.] Mm-hmm. 1066 00:53:58,736 --> 00:53:59,370 - [Amanda] Yeah - Interesting. 1067 00:53:59,470 --> 00:54:00,605 - Yeah. - Hmm. 1068 00:54:00,705 --> 00:54:01,772 - The situations, like, that I've been in, 1069 00:54:01,872 --> 00:54:02,940 I think that, like, the gentleman, you know, 1070 00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:04,642 whatever happened, it wouldn't have happened 1071 00:54:04,742 --> 00:54:08,746 had I been more famous or more powerful than than he. 1072 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,385 I was told by someone in the legal department verbatim 1073 00:54:14,485 --> 00:54:18,389 that, quote, I "probably wouldn't be satisfied 1074 00:54:19,424 --> 00:54:21,392 with the result of the hearing." 1075 00:54:21,492 --> 00:54:24,929 And I interpreted that as basically 1076 00:54:24,995 --> 00:54:26,297 nothing's gonna happen. 1077 00:54:27,097 --> 00:54:29,900 (somber music continues) 1078 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,902 When the "LA Times" article came out, 1079 00:54:32,002 --> 00:54:37,742 a lot of actresses reached out to me just telling me, 1080 00:54:39,377 --> 00:54:41,011 (sniffs) you know, how proud they were 1081 00:54:41,078 --> 00:54:41,879 and how, 1082 00:54:45,149 --> 00:54:48,018 how many actresses had similar experiences 1083 00:54:48,118 --> 00:54:49,286 but never said anything, 1084 00:54:51,322 --> 00:54:52,923 and that made my stomach turn, 1085 00:54:52,990 --> 00:54:55,893 just the realization that this is such a widespread problem 1086 00:54:57,261 --> 00:54:58,396 in this industry. 1087 00:55:00,398 --> 00:55:03,000 (singers vocalizing) 1088 00:55:11,909 --> 00:55:14,645 - What does it mean for boys and girls 1089 00:55:14,712 --> 00:55:16,981 to grow up in a culture where they see men 1090 00:55:17,081 --> 00:55:18,883 being aggressive in film to get the girl? 1091 00:55:20,851 --> 00:55:23,421 They pull women into these passionate kisses. 1092 00:55:24,655 --> 00:55:26,491 - Stop it (inhales deeply). 1093 00:55:26,924 --> 00:55:29,159 - Maybe she resists a little bit, like, right at first, 1094 00:55:29,259 --> 00:55:31,396 but he can kiss her into submission. 1095 00:55:31,962 --> 00:55:33,731 (dramatic music) 1096 00:55:36,567 --> 00:55:39,003 - Wait a minute, wait a minute. 1097 00:55:43,107 --> 00:55:44,942 - [Stephane] Now that's a really common scene. 1098 00:55:54,118 --> 00:55:55,486 - [Linda] Hollywood certainly knows 1099 00:55:55,586 --> 00:55:56,887 how to do violence very, very well, 1100 00:55:59,023 --> 00:56:01,592 much better than it knows how to do sex. 1101 00:56:03,761 --> 00:56:06,964 When sex and violence come together, it's rape. 1102 00:56:08,533 --> 00:56:10,234 - (breathing heavily) No, no. 1103 00:56:11,035 --> 00:56:13,337 - There's so many rape scenes in movies 1104 00:56:13,438 --> 00:56:14,872 because a lot of times, you know, 1105 00:56:14,972 --> 00:56:16,641 scripts are written, and they imagine 1106 00:56:16,741 --> 00:56:18,543 that this is the only way 1107 00:56:18,609 --> 00:56:21,446 a female character can get strong is if she's raped 1108 00:56:21,546 --> 00:56:24,014 for no apparent reason other than they think 1109 00:56:24,114 --> 00:56:26,551 something bad needs to happen to her so she can rise up 1110 00:56:26,651 --> 00:56:28,819 and go murder all the people in revenge. 1111 00:56:32,490 --> 00:56:34,024 What kind of message does that send out? 1112 00:56:35,325 --> 00:56:36,360 - My name is Buck, (laughs) 1113 00:56:36,461 --> 00:56:40,064 and I'm here to fuck. (machine beeping) 1114 00:56:40,164 --> 00:56:44,569 - Your name is Buck, and you came here to fuck. 1115 00:56:44,802 --> 00:56:46,036 Right? 1116 00:56:46,136 --> 00:56:47,738 - Wait a minute, wait. 1117 00:56:47,838 --> 00:56:48,539 (door thudding) (orderly yelling) 1118 00:56:49,073 --> 00:56:50,107 - There's some hatred for women going on 1119 00:56:50,207 --> 00:56:52,810 when you have to brutalize people, you know, 1120 00:56:52,877 --> 00:56:55,179 and treat them as subhuman but then 1121 00:56:55,746 --> 00:56:59,016 get the glory that you create strong female characters. 1122 00:56:59,316 --> 00:57:00,818 That's not strong women. 1123 00:57:00,918 --> 00:57:02,520 Those are brutalized women that have to survive -- 1124 00:57:06,824 --> 00:57:08,459 - and look good while doing so. 1125 00:57:10,227 --> 00:57:11,729 (dramatic music) 1126 00:57:14,732 --> 00:57:16,100 - In the age of the Internet, 1127 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,402 actors have to make these decision of, 1128 00:57:18,503 --> 00:57:21,706 "If I'm nude, it's going to get GIF'd 1129 00:57:21,806 --> 00:57:24,775 and played on a loop." 1130 00:57:24,842 --> 00:57:26,877 You can't regulate that anymore. 1131 00:57:29,547 --> 00:57:31,415 (fingers tapping) 1132 00:57:31,516 --> 00:57:34,919 The nudity will get repurposed to do all sorts of things. 1133 00:57:35,019 --> 00:57:37,988 They'll put other people's faces on. 1134 00:57:40,491 --> 00:57:42,126 (laptop clicks) 1135 00:57:42,226 --> 00:57:44,228 It's kind of not what they signed up for. 1136 00:57:44,328 --> 00:57:46,597 (dramatic music continues) 1137 00:57:46,697 --> 00:57:48,899 - You have to literally go and fight them 1138 00:57:48,999 --> 00:57:51,536 on every single website these things appear on, 1139 00:57:51,636 --> 00:57:53,070 and even if you win, 1140 00:57:53,137 --> 00:57:55,540 the next day, it shows up on a different website. 1141 00:57:56,874 --> 00:57:59,777 - The producer basically responded by saying, 1142 00:57:59,877 --> 00:58:00,745 "This is just what happens. 1143 00:58:00,845 --> 00:58:02,647 This is part of being an actor." 1144 00:58:03,047 --> 00:58:05,916 (pensive music) 1145 00:58:06,016 --> 00:58:07,885 - When "Jennifer's Body" was coming out, 1146 00:58:07,985 --> 00:58:11,221 we were at a new point where we were seeing 1147 00:58:11,321 --> 00:58:16,493 how social media can be used as a tool to shape perception. 1148 00:58:18,763 --> 00:58:22,867 In the film, I wanted to comment on the tropes 1149 00:58:22,967 --> 00:58:26,537 around how we look at girls and women's bodies 1150 00:58:26,637 --> 00:58:28,472 looking back at late '70s, 1151 00:58:28,539 --> 00:58:30,007 early '80s horror slasher films. 1152 00:58:30,074 --> 00:58:33,978 But what that requires is using the tropes. 1153 00:58:34,078 --> 00:58:34,478 (vampire howling) 1154 00:58:34,545 --> 00:58:36,781 (victim yelling) 1155 00:58:36,881 --> 00:58:41,251 There was a decision on the part of the studio, 1156 00:58:42,620 --> 00:58:44,655 I think, to market the film to young boys 1157 00:58:44,722 --> 00:58:47,892 as opposed to young women 1158 00:58:49,126 --> 00:58:51,862 as if to promise something with Megan Fox 1159 00:58:51,962 --> 00:58:53,631 that they were never gonna get. 1160 00:58:54,565 --> 00:58:56,834 (crowd cheering) 1161 00:58:56,934 --> 00:58:58,002 I was shocked by the reaction 1162 00:58:58,068 --> 00:58:59,670 and the way social media kind of worked 1163 00:58:59,737 --> 00:59:03,140 so quickly against the film. 1164 00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,209 (keys clattering) 1165 00:59:05,309 --> 00:59:09,379 (dramatic music continues) 1166 00:59:09,446 --> 00:59:12,282 (messages bleeping) 1167 00:59:12,382 --> 00:59:14,719 (keys clattering) 1168 00:59:14,819 --> 00:59:17,922 (message bleeping) 1169 00:59:19,924 --> 00:59:23,060 There was so much adolescent angst 1170 00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,931 about some lack (laughing) of male relevance 1171 00:59:26,997 --> 00:59:27,932 (dramatic music continues) 1172 00:59:28,032 --> 00:59:30,000 and I think, since then, we've seen 1173 00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:34,605 how much warfare is waged against women 1174 00:59:34,705 --> 00:59:37,675 by using their bodies against them. 1175 00:59:41,612 --> 00:59:46,116 - Now, uh, pull your dress up and let me see your legs. 1176 00:59:47,852 --> 00:59:50,487 - The Hollywood machine is something to be survived. 1177 00:59:50,587 --> 00:59:54,725 (light clicking) 1178 00:59:54,825 --> 00:59:57,161 - [Boss] Turn around a second. 1179 00:59:57,227 --> 00:59:58,362 - Something wrong? 1180 00:59:59,263 --> 01:00:01,265 - Matter of fact, everything is very, very right. 1181 01:00:03,668 --> 01:00:06,971 - It's very common to go to hotel rooms 1182 01:00:07,071 --> 01:00:07,805 and to be asked to audition. 1183 01:00:07,905 --> 01:00:11,909 (dramatic music continues) 1184 01:00:12,009 --> 01:00:13,644 That was kind of a thing back when I started. 1185 01:00:13,744 --> 01:00:14,478 - He's ready for you. 1186 01:00:14,578 --> 01:00:16,180 - Thank you. 1187 01:00:18,382 --> 01:00:19,183 (door clicking) 1188 01:00:19,283 --> 01:00:20,651 - I was raised to believe (laughing) 1189 01:00:20,718 --> 01:00:22,352 that you never wanted 1190 01:00:22,419 --> 01:00:23,553 to make a man uncomfortable. 1191 01:00:23,654 --> 01:00:25,322 (shoe clicking) 1192 01:00:25,389 --> 01:00:26,090 You didn't wanna make 1193 01:00:26,190 --> 01:00:27,424 him feel like (bather yelling) 1194 01:00:27,524 --> 01:00:28,893 he had done something wrong. 1195 01:00:30,194 --> 01:00:30,995 - He grabbed me, 1196 01:00:34,198 --> 01:00:35,032 tried to kiss me. 1197 01:00:36,667 --> 01:00:39,937 - So, if he advances on you, you know, your thing is 1198 01:00:40,037 --> 01:00:42,673 to kind of giggle and ease yourself out of there. 1199 01:00:42,773 --> 01:00:45,475 (character laughs) 1200 01:00:45,575 --> 01:00:48,212 - After I got blacklisted, I started being harassed 1201 01:00:48,278 --> 01:00:52,149 behind the scenes by my monster. 1202 01:00:52,249 --> 01:00:53,150 (dramatic music) 1203 01:00:53,250 --> 01:00:57,287 - He, he has detectives on staff. 1204 01:00:59,489 --> 01:01:00,657 (light clicking) 1205 01:01:00,758 --> 01:01:03,928 (crew chattering indistinctly) 1206 01:01:04,028 --> 01:01:07,031 - Harvey Weinstein is not the only one. 1207 01:01:08,565 --> 01:01:10,434 We have situations now where 1208 01:01:11,702 --> 01:01:12,903 it's taken a while for a client 1209 01:01:13,003 --> 01:01:15,105 to be willing to come out against somebody, 1210 01:01:16,173 --> 01:01:19,243 and you know, the studio makes excuses. 1211 01:01:21,611 --> 01:01:23,280 - I can file a complaint for you if that's what you want, 1212 01:01:23,380 --> 01:01:27,852 but I think you know how it would come off. 1213 01:01:28,786 --> 01:01:31,021 - You see all the people that protect Harvey, this predator, 1214 01:01:31,121 --> 01:01:34,058 and the many, many predators there are in this town 1215 01:01:34,158 --> 01:01:36,927 that are very big guys in the business. 1216 01:01:37,027 --> 01:01:38,195 (crowd chattering indistinctly) 1217 01:01:38,295 --> 01:01:40,697 - [Sarah T.K.] There are so many other men. 1218 01:01:40,798 --> 01:01:41,631 (door slamming) 1219 01:01:41,732 --> 01:01:42,900 They're not Harvey Weinsteins, 1220 01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:44,201 but I don't wanna wait 1221 01:01:44,301 --> 01:01:45,870 until these people are all Harvey Weinstein. 1222 01:01:45,970 --> 01:01:48,138 I want them to stop doing it now. 1223 01:01:48,205 --> 01:01:50,107 (secretary screaming) - Dorothy, please. 1224 01:01:50,207 --> 01:01:50,975 Look, I want you. 1225 01:01:51,075 --> 01:01:53,343 - Men feel entitled- 1226 01:01:53,443 --> 01:01:54,711 (light clicking) 1227 01:01:54,779 --> 01:01:56,113 - [Crew] You probably just wanna try to do (indistinct). 1228 01:01:56,213 --> 01:01:57,581 - [Crew] Okay. (case clicking) 1229 01:01:57,681 --> 01:02:00,450 - by a lot of stuff that's rolling around in their heads 1230 01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:02,286 that has sexualized women 1231 01:02:02,352 --> 01:02:04,088 and embraced them as sexual commodities to the extent 1232 01:02:04,188 --> 01:02:07,091 that they feel comfortable doing that. 1233 01:02:07,191 --> 01:02:08,558 (dramatic music continues) 1234 01:02:08,658 --> 01:02:10,660 - If you're wearing something, please get naked. 1235 01:02:10,761 --> 01:02:11,528 - I believe in only two things, 1236 01:02:11,595 --> 01:02:13,630 the First Amendment and boobs. 1237 01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:15,099 - She needs to drop a few. 1238 01:02:15,199 --> 01:02:16,400 - [Host] What do you think about this? 1239 01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:17,667 - Gretchen's beautiful. 1240 01:02:17,768 --> 01:02:18,568 - Ooh, beautiful, you look beautiful. 1241 01:02:18,668 --> 01:02:19,837 - I love the women's movement, 1242 01:02:19,937 --> 01:02:21,071 especially when walking behind it. 1243 01:02:21,171 --> 01:02:22,572 - You know, when you're sold as a sex symbol, 1244 01:02:22,672 --> 01:02:25,009 it's like the message that men out there in the world get is 1245 01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:28,779 that they can all touch you and that they own you. 1246 01:02:28,879 --> 01:02:30,114 - It makes her a slut, right? 1247 01:02:30,214 --> 01:02:32,616 - He began running his hands over my body 1248 01:02:32,716 --> 01:02:34,952 and grinding into me. 1249 01:02:35,052 --> 01:02:36,620 - [Rose] Because you've turned them. 1250 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:37,654 - Nice, nice. 1251 01:02:37,754 --> 01:02:39,189 - [Rose] You've made them do it. 1252 01:02:39,824 --> 01:02:40,825 - [Donald Trump] You can do anything. 1253 01:02:40,925 --> 01:02:41,892 - [Interviewer] Whatever you want. 1254 01:02:41,992 --> 01:02:43,060 - [Donald Trump] Grab 'em by the pussy. 1255 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:44,261 (interviewer laughing) 1256 01:02:44,361 --> 01:02:45,229 - [Crowd] Oh. - You can do anything. 1257 01:02:45,329 --> 01:02:45,662 - [Bystander] Yes. 1258 01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:47,197 (crowd cheering) 1259 01:02:47,297 --> 01:02:49,834 - It really didn't feel that there was a system in place 1260 01:02:49,934 --> 01:02:52,102 for this kind of a complaint. 1261 01:02:52,202 --> 01:02:54,839 - [Senator] How sure can this committee be 1262 01:02:54,939 --> 01:02:57,341 on the accuracy of your statements? 1263 01:02:57,407 --> 01:02:58,375 (body thudding) 1264 01:02:58,475 --> 01:03:00,377 - What you wanna do is destroy this guy's life. 1265 01:03:00,477 --> 01:03:01,445 (gate clanging) 1266 01:03:01,545 --> 01:03:03,547 - Are you interested in writing a book? 1267 01:03:03,647 --> 01:03:04,514 (body thudding) 1268 01:03:04,614 --> 01:03:05,816 - Nobody has made amends. 1269 01:03:06,750 --> 01:03:07,784 - [Bystander] Shame. 1270 01:03:07,885 --> 01:03:09,319 - Nobody has apologized. (bell ringing) 1271 01:03:09,419 --> 01:03:10,821 Nobody has taken ownership- - [Crowd] Whore, whore. 1272 01:03:10,888 --> 01:03:13,023 - [Sarah T.K.] of having done this to us. 1273 01:03:14,992 --> 01:03:15,960 (hands thudding) - Categorically 1274 01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:17,995 and unequivocally deny the allegation 1275 01:03:18,095 --> 01:03:19,463 against me by Dr. Ford. 1276 01:03:19,563 --> 01:03:22,332 - I have not been guilty of sexual misconduct. 1277 01:03:22,432 --> 01:03:24,001 - The allegation is completely false. 1278 01:03:24,101 --> 01:03:25,635 (character grunting) 1279 01:03:25,735 --> 01:03:26,403 - These allegations are false. 1280 01:03:26,503 --> 01:03:26,803 - It's just not true. 1281 01:03:26,904 --> 01:03:29,006 - Not true. 1282 01:03:29,106 --> 01:03:30,474 (dramatic music continues) 1283 01:03:30,574 --> 01:03:32,209 - [Sarah T.K.] It can't just be on our shoulders, 1284 01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:35,579 and we can't continue to be gaslit by these people. 1285 01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:38,582 We're made to feel like we're crazy for being uncomfortable. 1286 01:03:39,783 --> 01:03:40,885 - [Speaker] No, no. 1287 01:03:40,985 --> 01:03:42,019 - Nasty one. - I undressed her. 1288 01:03:42,086 --> 01:03:43,153 - Where things go. - In fact, he never did. 1289 01:03:43,253 --> 01:03:43,720 - [Speaker] He would sit here and watch it. 1290 01:03:43,820 --> 01:03:44,821 - I have no idea 1291 01:03:44,922 --> 01:03:45,856 who this woman is. - It is today. 1292 01:03:45,956 --> 01:03:46,356 - Are you a scorned woman? 1293 01:03:51,195 --> 01:03:52,062 - All right, you guys ready to move 1294 01:03:52,162 --> 01:03:54,198 into a little bit of rehearsal? 1295 01:03:54,298 --> 01:03:56,967 You're gonna be taking off her shirt. 1296 01:03:57,067 --> 01:03:58,335 - Okay. - And from what I understand, 1297 01:03:58,435 --> 01:03:59,303 it's a pretty wide neck, 1298 01:03:59,369 --> 01:04:00,537 - Yeah. - so you shouldn't have 1299 01:04:00,604 --> 01:04:03,607 any issue just coming up and pulling it over- 1300 01:04:03,673 --> 01:04:05,375 - Mm-hmm. - Jennifer's head, yeah. 1301 01:04:05,475 --> 01:04:07,611 And then, as we discussed, you will take your bra off. 1302 01:04:07,711 --> 01:04:08,946 - Mm-hmm. 1303 01:04:09,046 --> 01:04:10,214 - You know, you can- - Yeah. 1304 01:04:10,314 --> 01:04:11,715 - position yourself on the edge of the bed here. 1305 01:04:11,781 --> 01:04:12,682 - [Jennifer] Yep. - Right. 1306 01:04:12,782 --> 01:04:14,618 Maybe you could place Dan's hand 1307 01:04:14,718 --> 01:04:15,452 somewhere on- - Yeah. 1308 01:04:15,552 --> 01:04:16,553 - your upper inner thigh 1309 01:04:16,653 --> 01:04:17,654 on the left leg. - So, like, maybe right here- 1310 01:04:17,754 --> 01:04:19,456 - [Dan] There? - would be fine. 1311 01:04:19,556 --> 01:04:19,957 - [Dan] And then here. 1312 01:04:20,057 --> 01:04:21,858 - [Jennifer] Yeah. 1313 01:04:23,127 --> 01:04:24,861 - Okay, move your head a little bit. 1314 01:04:24,929 --> 01:04:29,499 And you can cheat it so that your head is not so turned. 1315 01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:30,534 Yeah. 1316 01:04:30,634 --> 01:04:31,401 - [Dan] And then I'll rest it 1317 01:04:31,468 --> 01:04:32,836 right here. - and I'll be like this. 1318 01:04:32,937 --> 01:04:34,038 - [Sarah S.] Great. - [Dan] Mm-hmm. 1319 01:04:34,138 --> 01:04:35,039 - Love to see you touching his head, 1320 01:04:35,139 --> 01:04:36,740 tugging on his hair a little. 1321 01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:37,474 - [Jennifer] Okay. 1322 01:04:39,143 --> 01:04:40,244 - [Sarah S.] How does that feel for both of you? 1323 01:04:40,344 --> 01:04:41,445 - [Jennifer] I'm fine. - [Dan] Yeah. 1324 01:04:41,545 --> 01:04:42,312 - Okay. 1325 01:04:42,412 --> 01:04:42,879 Okay, great. 1326 01:04:42,980 --> 01:04:46,984 (funky upbeat music) 1327 01:04:51,255 --> 01:04:55,025 - On season one, we had a moment where there were 1328 01:04:55,125 --> 01:04:58,095 some criticisms of our lead actor, James Franco, 1329 01:04:58,195 --> 01:05:00,097 for stuff that had happened not on our set 1330 01:05:00,197 --> 01:05:03,333 but had happened on indie films that he had worked on. 1331 01:05:04,401 --> 01:05:07,304 But nonetheless, I felt the need 1332 01:05:07,404 --> 01:05:09,439 to ask all the principal cast members, 1333 01:05:09,539 --> 01:05:11,508 "Did you have any problems on our set?" 1334 01:05:11,608 --> 01:05:13,477 Emily Meade rather bravely said, 1335 01:05:13,543 --> 01:05:14,478 "Things didn't go right on set. 1336 01:05:14,578 --> 01:05:16,981 One day, I'll tell you about it." 1337 01:05:18,082 --> 01:05:18,949 (gentle pensive music) 1338 01:05:19,049 --> 01:05:19,749 (door clicking shut) 1339 01:05:19,816 --> 01:05:20,985 - [Bystander] Whoa, baby. 1340 01:05:21,051 --> 01:05:23,687 - I was playing a prostitute turned porn star. 1341 01:05:26,923 --> 01:05:28,325 I was 26. 1342 01:05:30,627 --> 01:05:32,596 And I was starting to realize how much I was having 1343 01:05:32,696 --> 01:05:36,466 to constantly dissociate to, like, show up to my job. 1344 01:05:37,667 --> 01:05:40,437 - [Actor] Oh, that's, yeah, oh, yeah. 1345 01:05:40,504 --> 01:05:43,007 - There were circumstances where I wound up having to do 1346 01:05:43,073 --> 01:05:45,209 a very intimate sex scene 1347 01:05:45,309 --> 01:05:49,179 with a completely random background actor. 1348 01:05:49,879 --> 01:05:53,917 I was not willing to be on the show 1349 01:05:54,018 --> 01:05:55,319 with things the way they were, 1350 01:05:55,385 --> 01:05:59,123 wanting to protect the women involved in this show. 1351 01:05:59,223 --> 01:06:01,858 - Emily basically said, "We can do this better," 1352 01:06:01,958 --> 01:06:02,993 and then it was our job to listen. 1353 01:06:03,093 --> 01:06:04,428 - The best thing I could come up with was 1354 01:06:04,494 --> 01:06:07,231 that there should be a person who is there, 1355 01:06:07,331 --> 01:06:11,501 who their sole job is to facilitate, protect, 1356 01:06:11,568 --> 01:06:13,770 and just be there for sex scenes 1357 01:06:13,870 --> 01:06:15,305 like a stunt coordinator. 1358 01:06:15,405 --> 01:06:16,973 (gunshots blasting) (victim grunting) 1359 01:06:17,074 --> 01:06:17,874 (gun thudding) (body thudding) 1360 01:06:17,941 --> 01:06:20,077 - God. 1361 01:06:20,177 --> 01:06:21,478 - There are entire departments of people 1362 01:06:21,578 --> 01:06:23,180 who are there to make sure nobody gets hurt 1363 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,514 when we're simulating violence. 1364 01:06:25,615 --> 01:06:26,616 (wheels screeching) 1365 01:06:26,716 --> 01:06:27,551 But we hadn't, to this point, hired somebody 1366 01:06:27,651 --> 01:06:31,055 whose sole area of expertise was, 1367 01:06:31,155 --> 01:06:33,057 "Let's make sure nobody gets, you know, 1368 01:06:33,157 --> 01:06:35,459 emotionally hurt or physically hurt, you know, 1369 01:06:35,559 --> 01:06:37,861 when we're simulating intimacy." 1370 01:06:37,961 --> 01:06:40,630 (defiant music) 1371 01:06:40,730 --> 01:06:42,366 - I'm there to make sure the actors are safe 1372 01:06:42,432 --> 01:06:45,169 but also to check in and make sure 1373 01:06:45,235 --> 01:06:47,671 what is happening on set is consensual 1374 01:06:47,771 --> 01:06:50,006 and what is happening is what was agreed to. 1375 01:06:50,107 --> 01:06:51,675 - I don't wanna disappoint anybody. 1376 01:06:53,677 --> 01:06:56,046 That was probably always the hardest part for me, 1377 01:06:57,447 --> 01:06:58,615 having to, like, look someone in the eyes, 1378 01:06:58,715 --> 01:07:00,384 a man specifically, and, like, disappoint them 1379 01:07:00,484 --> 01:07:02,686 about what I'm willing to do sexually. 1380 01:07:05,322 --> 01:07:07,023 She could go tell the director, like, 1381 01:07:07,124 --> 01:07:09,359 "Emily's feeling a little strange about this," 1382 01:07:09,459 --> 01:07:12,096 warn the director of that so they can roll their eyes 1383 01:07:12,196 --> 01:07:12,829 or have whatever private (laughs) 1384 01:07:12,929 --> 01:07:13,930 reaction they want to, 1385 01:07:14,030 --> 01:07:15,065 and I don't have to see it 1386 01:07:15,132 --> 01:07:17,334 and (laughs) feel insecure or embarrassed. 1387 01:07:17,434 --> 01:07:18,968 - Let's go, sweetheart. 1388 01:07:19,069 --> 01:07:19,669 (footsteps plodding) 1389 01:07:21,971 --> 01:07:24,508 - It was just the process of having that conversation, 1390 01:07:24,574 --> 01:07:25,975 and feeling like I had a choice, 1391 01:07:26,076 --> 01:07:28,178 and like I wasn't in a corner. 1392 01:07:28,278 --> 01:07:30,347 - All right, first up is Lori and Andy. 1393 01:07:30,447 --> 01:07:31,848 - "The Deuce" wound up being 1394 01:07:31,948 --> 01:07:33,583 the first network television show 1395 01:07:33,683 --> 01:07:35,152 to have an intimacy coordinator, 1396 01:07:35,252 --> 01:07:36,720 and then HBO wound up being 1397 01:07:36,820 --> 01:07:38,021 the first network to have 1398 01:07:38,122 --> 01:07:39,756 network-wide intimacy coordinators used. 1399 01:07:42,126 --> 01:07:42,992 - There are certain things 1400 01:07:43,059 --> 01:07:44,594 that might have been acceptable 1401 01:07:45,762 --> 01:07:48,465 five years ago, 10 years ago, 20 years ago 1402 01:07:48,532 --> 01:07:50,967 that are not acceptable now. 1403 01:07:51,067 --> 01:07:52,068 And I think it took Time's Up. 1404 01:07:52,169 --> 01:07:53,637 It took Me Too. 1405 01:07:53,737 --> 01:07:58,708 It took this entire shift for people to look 1406 01:07:58,808 --> 01:08:02,446 at scenes like this and say, "We can do better." 1407 01:08:02,546 --> 01:08:03,847 (dramatic music) (glass shattering) 1408 01:08:03,912 --> 01:08:05,182 (bat thudding) - You're gonna listen to me. 1409 01:08:05,282 --> 01:08:06,116 - Wait, hey, Dorothy. (bat thudding) 1410 01:08:06,215 --> 01:08:08,585 - whether you like it or not. 1411 01:08:08,684 --> 01:08:09,519 (dramatic music) 1412 01:08:09,619 --> 01:08:14,224 - There's clearly a deeply entrenched 1413 01:08:14,291 --> 01:08:17,161 terror of male privilege (case rustling) 1414 01:08:17,227 --> 01:08:19,196 and power being taken away. 1415 01:08:20,697 --> 01:08:22,631 - I'm not gonna be stopped by three dumb-witted broads. 1416 01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:26,170 - I wanted to show that you could 1417 01:08:26,269 --> 01:08:27,537 cut off the head of power 1418 01:08:27,637 --> 01:08:30,540 instead of biting at ankles, that, if everybody is 1419 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,809 always kind of complaining about the same thing, 1420 01:08:34,611 --> 01:08:36,845 maybe we can do something about it. 1421 01:08:36,946 --> 01:08:39,683 (machines churning) 1422 01:08:41,050 --> 01:08:44,153 (dramatic music continues) 1423 01:08:44,254 --> 01:08:47,657 - I do feel optimistic, 1424 01:08:49,092 --> 01:08:51,195 but Hollywood is definitely sexist, 1425 01:08:51,295 --> 01:08:56,300 definitely racist place, 1426 01:08:56,399 --> 01:08:59,369 and it's going to take a lot 1427 01:08:59,469 --> 01:09:04,508 to dismantle those systems. 1428 01:09:04,974 --> 01:09:07,311 - The Me Too movement ushered in a greater level 1429 01:09:07,411 --> 01:09:10,514 of the magnifying glass. 1430 01:09:10,613 --> 01:09:14,149 That long-held patriarchal power 1431 01:09:14,251 --> 01:09:15,785 in Hollywood was rendered 1432 01:09:15,885 --> 01:09:18,655 vulnerable really for the very first time 1433 01:09:18,755 --> 01:09:20,390 in a very real way. 1434 01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:22,858 - Harvey Weinstein surrendering to police- 1435 01:09:22,959 --> 01:09:23,960 - Leslie Moonves's- - on sex crime charges. 1436 01:09:24,059 --> 01:09:25,829 - career at CBS came to an end 1437 01:09:25,894 --> 01:09:27,162 in September- - Chief Roy Price has 1438 01:09:27,264 --> 01:09:28,365 been suspended - after multiple women- 1439 01:09:28,465 --> 01:09:29,398 - in the wake of- - came forward. 1440 01:09:29,499 --> 01:09:30,867 - sexual harassment accusations from- 1441 01:09:30,967 --> 01:09:33,269 - James Franco snubbed by the Oscars in the wake- 1442 01:09:33,370 --> 01:09:34,738 - The Screen Actors Guild found actor Kip Pardue 1443 01:09:36,005 --> 01:09:38,207 guilty of serious misconduct. 1444 01:09:38,308 --> 01:09:39,476 (dramatic music) 1445 01:09:39,543 --> 01:09:40,844 (footsteps plodding) 1446 01:09:40,910 --> 01:09:42,246 (actor breathing heavily) 1447 01:09:42,346 --> 01:09:46,516 - I think that many films have women in peril. 1448 01:09:47,984 --> 01:09:51,054 Some Prince Charming has to come and save us, 1449 01:09:51,154 --> 01:09:52,522 (footsteps plodding) 1450 01:09:52,622 --> 01:09:56,426 and we come to believe that we innately don't have 1451 01:09:56,526 --> 01:09:59,996 the power to save ourselves, but we do. 1452 01:10:00,096 --> 01:10:01,431 (energetic music) 1453 01:10:01,531 --> 01:10:02,532 (character speaking in foreign language) 1454 01:10:02,632 --> 01:10:03,867 - [Patti] Women are finally finding a voice. 1455 01:10:09,539 --> 01:10:13,410 (energetic music continues) 1456 01:10:21,618 --> 01:10:25,355 - Before doing "Vida," I hadn't experienced too much 1457 01:10:25,455 --> 01:10:28,091 in the roles of getting to play an American like me, 1458 01:10:28,191 --> 01:10:29,859 a Latina like me. 1459 01:10:29,959 --> 01:10:30,727 (gate clanging) 1460 01:10:30,827 --> 01:10:32,028 (lover moaning) 1461 01:10:32,128 --> 01:10:36,933 It is by design that we are seeing a woman pursue 1462 01:10:38,668 --> 01:10:41,237 her sexuality and pleasure in a very unapologetic fashion. 1463 01:10:41,338 --> 01:10:43,707 (lips smacking) 1464 01:10:43,807 --> 01:10:45,575 - We haven't gotten a chance to, us, like, create 1465 01:10:45,642 --> 01:10:47,577 complicated images of ourselves, 1466 01:10:47,677 --> 01:10:50,714 and these girls I created were, shitty, messy. 1467 01:10:50,814 --> 01:10:52,282 They made really bad decisions. 1468 01:10:52,382 --> 01:10:55,952 (camera clicking) 1469 01:10:56,052 --> 01:10:57,454 Dominant culture gets to tell 1470 01:10:57,554 --> 01:10:58,888 all that, you know, all the time. 1471 01:10:58,988 --> 01:11:00,056 (vocalist singing in foreign language) 1472 01:11:00,156 --> 01:11:01,625 - When do we get to say it? 1473 01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:04,828 (energetic music) 1474 01:11:04,928 --> 01:11:08,798 The sex scenes started in the writer's room. 1475 01:11:08,898 --> 01:11:11,968 These girls, they knew exactly how to get off, 1476 01:11:12,035 --> 01:11:13,202 what they wanted. 1477 01:11:13,303 --> 01:11:17,941 (vocalist singing in foreign language) 1478 01:11:19,075 --> 01:11:19,909 - It progressed the story. 1479 01:11:20,009 --> 01:11:21,478 It wasn't just gratuitous. 1480 01:11:23,112 --> 01:11:26,650 - Tanya brought me into the editing room just to make sure 1481 01:11:26,750 --> 01:11:29,586 I was completely comfortable with the way 1482 01:11:29,686 --> 01:11:32,522 that certain things were being shot. 1483 01:11:32,589 --> 01:11:35,859 You know, "Is this all right?" 1484 01:11:35,959 --> 01:11:37,260 - Okay? 1485 01:11:37,361 --> 01:11:38,928 - [Mishel] It's nice to have somebody checking in on you 1486 01:11:39,028 --> 01:11:40,330 even after the fact. 1487 01:11:41,898 --> 01:11:44,534 (dynamic music) 1488 01:11:45,735 --> 01:11:48,905 - "The Sex Lives of College Girls" is 1489 01:11:49,005 --> 01:11:52,509 about freshmen college suitemates 1490 01:11:52,609 --> 01:11:54,744 who are navigating their sexuality. 1491 01:11:55,945 --> 01:11:56,413 - So, how does this work? 1492 01:11:56,513 --> 01:11:57,847 (pulsing dance music) 1493 01:11:57,947 --> 01:12:01,017 Do we just take our clothes off and go inside? 1494 01:12:01,084 --> 01:12:03,086 - Fuck it, I'm going in. 1495 01:12:03,152 --> 01:12:04,588 I have a disability. 1496 01:12:04,688 --> 01:12:07,791 My character, clearly, will also have a disability, 1497 01:12:07,891 --> 01:12:11,127 but who my character is is not predicated on the fact 1498 01:12:11,227 --> 01:12:12,362 that I'm a disabled woman. 1499 01:12:12,429 --> 01:12:14,330 Honey, I pull. 1500 01:12:15,298 --> 01:12:16,332 Hey. 1501 01:12:16,433 --> 01:12:18,502 It's still about my sexuality. 1502 01:12:18,602 --> 01:12:21,705 - Do any of you know where a girl named Sarah is? 1503 01:12:21,771 --> 01:12:22,305 - No. 1504 01:12:22,406 --> 01:12:23,106 - Sorry. 1505 01:12:23,206 --> 01:12:24,474 - I don't. 1506 01:12:24,574 --> 01:12:28,978 It's the most refreshing thing to have a character, 1507 01:12:29,078 --> 01:12:33,450 especially a wheelchair user, be sexy, be sex positive, 1508 01:12:33,517 --> 01:12:37,220 be sexual, to be seen as desired and loved 1509 01:12:37,286 --> 01:12:39,656 because we deserve it, too. 1510 01:12:39,723 --> 01:12:41,891 (bright energetic music) 1511 01:12:41,958 --> 01:12:46,530 - There was a time in my life when I felt free 1512 01:12:48,197 --> 01:12:51,100 (character moaning) 1513 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,502 Ow. 1514 01:12:52,602 --> 01:12:53,970 (infant suckling) 1515 01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:55,238 Ah, Jesus. 1516 01:12:56,172 --> 01:12:58,642 - I always knew that it would be noisy to make a show 1517 01:12:58,708 --> 01:13:03,413 about female desire and sexuality, 1518 01:13:03,513 --> 01:13:07,116 about a woman who wants sex, 1519 01:13:07,216 --> 01:13:08,685 who admits she's had sex, 1520 01:13:08,785 --> 01:13:12,689 that she wants to have more of it, and not punishing her 1521 01:13:12,789 --> 01:13:16,760 for her desire is in itself a revolutionary act. 1522 01:13:16,826 --> 01:13:18,261 When you make that woman a mother, 1523 01:13:18,361 --> 01:13:24,067 it is just charging straight into these opinions in society 1524 01:13:25,469 --> 01:13:27,437 that martyrdom is the ideal for mothers. 1525 01:13:27,571 --> 01:13:28,905 * Each morning * 1526 01:13:29,005 --> 01:13:30,740 - [Child] Morning, mommy. (air whooshing) 1527 01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,208 (hands thudding) (mother exhales) 1528 01:13:32,308 --> 01:13:35,044 - I also felt like we cannot tell this whole story 1529 01:13:35,111 --> 01:13:38,448 and just not even have one shot of a penis. 1530 01:13:38,548 --> 01:13:41,150 (intense music) 1531 01:13:42,852 --> 01:13:46,022 We put it in the cut, and the Netflix executives were 1532 01:13:46,122 --> 01:13:48,658 very nervous about it and asked us 1533 01:13:48,758 --> 01:13:50,460 to consider taking it out. 1534 01:13:51,961 --> 01:13:54,664 They were concerned that it would be off-putting to women. 1535 01:13:54,764 --> 01:13:56,933 Not heterosexual women (laughs). 1536 01:13:57,033 --> 01:13:59,068 (pensive music) 1537 01:13:59,168 --> 01:14:01,204 - I think everything I've been doing has been an attempt 1538 01:14:01,304 --> 01:14:03,673 to investigate the male gaze, 1539 01:14:03,740 --> 01:14:05,542 all these ways in which the camera has kind of stood 1540 01:14:05,642 --> 01:14:09,045 in for an assumed masculine protagonist 1541 01:14:09,112 --> 01:14:12,248 and to to kind of reset it, saying, you know, 1542 01:14:12,348 --> 01:14:13,049 (sultry music) "I'm the subject. 1543 01:14:13,149 --> 01:14:13,917 You're the object." 1544 01:14:15,084 --> 01:14:18,421 Consent doesn't have to be this kind of, 1545 01:14:18,722 --> 01:14:19,956 like, mushy thing 1546 01:14:20,056 --> 01:14:23,326 that's, like, shrouded in questions about 1547 01:14:23,426 --> 01:14:24,494 shame and gender. 1548 01:14:24,594 --> 01:14:27,997 (sultry music continues) 1549 01:14:29,766 --> 01:14:31,668 When I'm filming, I'm always wanting to, like, put 1550 01:14:31,735 --> 01:14:34,838 the camera into the place of the character's desire. 1551 01:14:34,938 --> 01:14:37,006 So, it's like, instead of taking the camera 1552 01:14:37,073 --> 01:14:38,742 up here or out here, I'm always, 1553 01:14:38,842 --> 01:14:40,176 like, literally imagining 1554 01:14:40,276 --> 01:14:42,612 the camera moving down into, like, the gut. 1555 01:14:42,712 --> 01:14:46,082 (lover breathing heavily) 1556 01:14:46,182 --> 01:14:49,719 - Joey really opened up in me my sensitivity 1557 01:14:49,819 --> 01:14:51,855 as a human being translated 1558 01:14:51,921 --> 01:14:54,591 into what I could bring to the camera. 1559 01:14:54,658 --> 01:14:57,594 (relaxing music) 1560 01:14:58,995 --> 01:15:01,130 The camera's approach is honoring the 1561 01:15:01,230 --> 01:15:02,131 space for the actors. 1562 01:15:03,867 --> 01:15:06,903 Joey would say that I had a mussy and would say, 1563 01:15:07,003 --> 01:15:09,105 "Jimmy, shoot from your mussy," 1564 01:15:09,205 --> 01:15:11,107 'cause I don't think that a man only has a male gaze, 1565 01:15:11,207 --> 01:15:13,142 or a woman would only have a female gaze. 1566 01:15:15,244 --> 01:15:17,681 (lover moaning) 1567 01:15:17,781 --> 01:15:19,148 - I wanted to be naked 1568 01:15:19,248 --> 01:15:20,550 because, first of all, that had never been done. 1569 01:15:20,650 --> 01:15:22,051 - All right. 1570 01:15:22,151 --> 01:15:24,821 - And the second reason was that I wanted to show 1571 01:15:24,921 --> 01:15:28,592 this relationship and these two human beings are 1572 01:15:28,692 --> 01:15:30,627 just like, they have conversations 1573 01:15:30,727 --> 01:15:32,862 after people take showers, and they're naked. 1574 01:15:35,832 --> 01:15:38,034 (sighs) We can't afford any more bills. 1575 01:15:39,168 --> 01:15:41,037 I can't believe I have to say this. 1576 01:15:41,104 --> 01:15:43,640 Trans people actually have sex. 1577 01:15:43,707 --> 01:15:47,243 We have sex with other people. 1578 01:15:47,310 --> 01:15:48,011 Isn't that weird? 1579 01:15:48,111 --> 01:15:50,413 I know, strange, but it's true. 1580 01:15:50,513 --> 01:15:52,616 (sultry music) 1581 01:15:52,682 --> 01:15:55,051 Everybody is doing this thing called love. 1582 01:15:59,856 --> 01:16:02,626 - I'm really interested in pursuing 1583 01:16:02,726 --> 01:16:06,095 the notion of female desire, 1584 01:16:06,195 --> 01:16:09,766 (sultry music continues) 1585 01:16:10,233 --> 01:16:15,038 be it ambition, or sex, 1586 01:16:15,104 --> 01:16:20,076 or romance with the idea that there is a subjectivity 1587 01:16:20,777 --> 01:16:22,946 and often a voraciousness 1588 01:16:23,980 --> 01:16:25,548 that comes from a female perspective. 1589 01:16:25,615 --> 01:16:28,184 (mellow music) 1590 01:16:36,259 --> 01:16:38,294 - In terms of making films, the most important thing is 1591 01:16:38,394 --> 01:16:40,797 women have been doing this forever, you know, 1592 01:16:40,897 --> 01:16:41,297 that we're not the first. 1593 01:16:50,306 --> 01:16:53,242 Women were putting the camera in a place of empathy, 1594 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:00,650 yearning, longing, wanting. 1595 01:17:04,888 --> 01:17:06,656 - [Stephane] There is a rediscovery 1596 01:17:06,723 --> 01:17:07,757 of lost Black films 1597 01:17:07,857 --> 01:17:11,194 that celebrate romance and intimacy. 1598 01:17:12,528 --> 01:17:15,364 These films have always existed. 1599 01:17:20,569 --> 01:17:23,372 (vocalizing) 1600 01:17:26,776 --> 01:17:29,045 - It's changing. 1601 01:17:29,679 --> 01:17:30,780 - You can feel it. 1602 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,181 You can feel it in the writer's rooms. 1603 01:17:32,281 --> 01:17:34,884 You can feel it talking to producers. 1604 01:17:34,984 --> 01:17:36,820 When I'm on the set of "Grace and Frankie," 1605 01:17:36,886 --> 01:17:38,121 half the people there are women. 1606 01:17:38,221 --> 01:17:42,391 Trust me, when I started out in '58, '59, 1607 01:17:42,491 --> 01:17:43,526 there wasn't a woman, 1608 01:17:43,626 --> 01:17:47,030 except maybe the script supervisor, on the set. 1609 01:17:47,130 --> 01:17:49,733 We're making vibrators for women with arthritis. 1610 01:17:49,833 --> 01:17:51,835 - Yes, vibrators. 1611 01:17:51,935 --> 01:17:53,770 - We're making things for people like us 1612 01:17:53,870 --> 01:17:56,539 because we are sick and tired of being dismissed 1613 01:17:56,639 --> 01:17:57,673 by people like you. 1614 01:17:57,774 --> 01:17:58,808 - Mic drop. 1615 01:17:59,675 --> 01:18:01,344 - Okay, come on in. 1616 01:18:03,312 --> 01:18:05,949 - [Stephane] I'm hoping that there will be 1617 01:18:06,049 --> 01:18:08,451 a more seismic shift happening more rapidly now. 1618 01:18:08,517 --> 01:18:10,319 - Hey. 1619 01:18:10,419 --> 01:18:11,187 (crew member speaking indistinctly) 1620 01:18:11,254 --> 01:18:12,722 - Yeah, sure. 1621 01:18:12,822 --> 01:18:14,257 - I think we need more- 1622 01:18:14,357 --> 01:18:15,658 - [Stephane] You'll see more women green light a series, 1623 01:18:15,725 --> 01:18:18,127 (ladders creaking) 1624 01:18:19,428 --> 01:18:20,864 - to green light a movie, (metal scraping) 1625 01:18:20,930 --> 01:18:22,198 and when you see that, 1626 01:18:22,298 --> 01:18:26,870 you'll see more movies that empower women. 1627 01:18:26,936 --> 01:18:28,471 (slate clicking) 1628 01:18:35,745 --> 01:18:38,281 - Okay, and cut. 1629 01:18:38,915 --> 01:18:41,217 - Actresses, for the first time 1630 01:18:41,284 --> 01:18:44,954 since I would say the 30s, have power. 1631 01:18:46,890 --> 01:18:49,492 - Men want to be looking at women 1632 01:18:49,558 --> 01:18:52,628 in the way that you look at a protagonist in a movie, 1633 01:18:52,728 --> 01:18:53,963 which is as yourself. 1634 01:18:56,565 --> 01:18:58,034 - And for some reason, 1635 01:18:58,134 --> 01:18:59,402 I think men weren't making that kind of transference. 1636 01:19:01,104 --> 01:19:02,405 Now, it's happening. 1637 01:19:02,505 --> 01:19:08,311 - The beauty of film, and television, and media is 1638 01:19:08,411 --> 01:19:11,480 that we have the ability to reach people's living rooms. 1639 01:19:11,580 --> 01:19:14,984 And when you see somebody that maybe doesn't look like you, 1640 01:19:15,084 --> 01:19:17,753 but emotionally, you see yourself 1641 01:19:17,987 --> 01:19:19,588 reflected in that way, 1642 01:19:19,688 --> 01:19:24,460 all of a sudden, that person becomes more familiar to you. 1643 01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:32,101 - We have consumed, for a very long time, ourselves 1644 01:19:32,969 --> 01:19:36,172 outside of our own lens 1645 01:19:36,272 --> 01:19:39,475 that we are still figuring out what that means. 1646 01:19:41,044 --> 01:19:42,178 - I think Hollywood is 1647 01:19:42,278 --> 01:19:45,448 no longer just a place of entertainment. 1648 01:19:45,548 --> 01:19:48,517 I think that the power that Hollywood holds is 1649 01:19:48,584 --> 01:19:52,922 so great that it should put its power to good use, 1650 01:19:53,022 --> 01:19:55,124 which is representation. 1651 01:20:00,463 --> 01:20:02,698 - Hey, check this one out. (projector clattering) 1652 01:20:02,765 --> 01:20:06,836 - And I think nudity and sex, it's a really beautiful way 1653 01:20:06,936 --> 01:20:08,037 to show things without telling them 1654 01:20:08,137 --> 01:20:11,975 and is a vital part of storytelling. 1655 01:20:12,075 --> 01:20:14,643 And I actually feel better doing it 1656 01:20:14,743 --> 01:20:16,445 with an intimacy coordinator now. 1657 01:20:18,882 --> 01:20:21,384 - I have done something and been involved in something 1658 01:20:21,484 --> 01:20:25,021 that is important and I hope permanent in this industry, 1659 01:20:25,121 --> 01:20:28,191 and, yeah, it's pretty surreal. 1660 01:20:28,291 --> 01:20:30,426 It's really, it feels very good (laughs). 1661 01:20:33,529 --> 01:20:36,332 (energetic music) 1662 01:20:38,902 --> 01:20:39,835 * I'm feeling myself * 1663 01:20:39,969 --> 01:20:41,704 * I'm feeling myself * 1664 01:20:41,837 --> 01:20:42,939 * Can't even lie * 1665 01:20:43,072 --> 01:20:44,640 * I'm not that thing on the shelf * 1666 01:20:44,773 --> 01:20:45,841 * I'm feeling myself * 1667 01:20:45,975 --> 01:20:47,143 * I'm feeling myself * 1668 01:20:47,276 --> 01:20:51,480 * 'Cause I'm doing it better than anyone else * 1669 01:20:57,253 --> 01:20:59,788 - [Joey] We're just getting started. 1670 01:20:59,889 --> 01:21:01,190 - All right, fellas. 1671 01:21:01,290 --> 01:21:03,692 - Getting the cameras into the hands of the people 1672 01:21:03,792 --> 01:21:06,262 who want them and deserve them. 1673 01:21:06,795 --> 01:21:09,332 - [Speaker] Fuck yeah, mom. 1674 01:21:11,067 --> 01:21:13,202 - Women don't stay silent forever. 1675 01:21:13,302 --> 01:21:16,372 - Some women will see some of these amazing pieces of work 1676 01:21:16,472 --> 01:21:19,542 by women and start to kind of center themselves 1677 01:21:19,642 --> 01:21:21,244 in their lives, you know? 1678 01:21:21,344 --> 01:21:24,047 But it's not filmmaking's job to do it. 1679 01:21:24,147 --> 01:21:26,349 It's the world's job to center female pleasure. 1680 01:21:26,449 --> 01:21:29,085 It's the world's job to understand consent. 1681 01:21:29,185 --> 01:21:31,620 You know, it's not female filmmakers' job to teach it. 1682 01:21:33,957 --> 01:21:35,391 We got enough to do. 1683 01:21:35,524 --> 01:21:36,759 (joey chuckles) * I'm feeling myself * 1684 01:21:36,892 --> 01:21:38,694 * I'm feeling myself * 1685 01:21:38,761 --> 01:21:39,929 * Can't even lie * 1686 01:21:39,996 --> 01:21:41,664 * I'm not that thing on the shelf * 1687 01:21:41,797 --> 01:21:42,765 * I'm feeling myself * 1688 01:21:42,831 --> 01:21:44,300 * I'm feeling myself * 1689 01:21:44,433 --> 01:21:47,803 * 'Cause I'm doing it better than anyone else * 1690 01:21:47,937 --> 01:21:48,771 * Feeling myself * 1691 01:21:48,904 --> 01:21:50,739 * I'm feeling myself * 1692 01:21:50,806 --> 01:21:51,975 * Can't even lie * 1693 01:21:52,108 --> 01:21:53,842 * I'm not that thing on the shelf * 1694 01:21:53,909 --> 01:21:54,877 * I'm feeling myself * 1695 01:21:54,944 --> 01:21:56,145 * I'm feeling myself * 1696 01:21:56,279 --> 01:22:00,449 * 'Cause I'm doing it better than anyone else * 1697 01:22:02,051 --> 01:22:04,820 * Feeling myself * 1698 01:22:04,954 --> 01:22:07,190 * I'm feeling myself * 1699 01:22:07,323 --> 01:22:10,193 * I'm feeling myself * 1700 01:22:10,259 --> 01:22:16,232 * I'm feeling myself * 1701 01:22:20,703 --> 01:22:23,072 * (vocalizing) * 127832

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