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Press that! 10 00:01:29,489 --> 00:01:30,822 [shouting] 11 00:01:30,857 --> 00:01:31,790 [drumrolls] 12 00:01:34,928 --> 00:01:38,297 [exhaling sharply] 13 00:01:41,401 --> 00:01:44,736 From as far back as I can remember, I've had two desires. 14 00:01:44,771 --> 00:01:47,439 To be strong and to be a woman. 15 00:01:47,474 --> 00:01:49,875 I just never knew how I could have both. 16 00:01:49,910 --> 00:01:51,310 [screaming] Did it! 17 00:01:52,879 --> 00:01:54,680 [drumrolls] 18 00:02:09,362 --> 00:02:10,896 [engine running] 19 00:02:15,202 --> 00:02:18,370 Some of these are my dad's old photos when he was a kid. 20 00:02:18,405 --> 00:02:20,272 And I think that's what this one is. 21 00:02:20,307 --> 00:02:22,674 [chuckles] Yeah. Oh, yeah. 22 00:02:22,709 --> 00:02:24,476 These ones are when I was once a little baby. 23 00:02:28,582 --> 00:02:31,716 That's the trailer I grew up in. 24 00:02:31,751 --> 00:02:33,785 My very humble beginnings. 25 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:35,220 [chuckles] 26 00:02:35,255 --> 00:02:36,755 [guitar music] 27 00:02:36,790 --> 00:02:39,324 Growing up basically poor white trash, 28 00:02:39,359 --> 00:02:42,728 I definitely had issues with feeling less and wanting to not feel the way. 29 00:02:45,799 --> 00:02:47,933 There are times where I got bullied and I hated it. 30 00:02:47,968 --> 00:02:49,568 I hated that feeling. 31 00:02:49,603 --> 00:02:51,403 I hated that feeling of vulnerability. 32 00:02:53,807 --> 00:02:55,874 I get him a book by Arnold Schwarzenegger 33 00:02:56,943 --> 00:02:59,444 and he read the whole thing. 34 00:03:00,413 --> 00:03:04,249 And I told him, I says: "Well, you do everything that Arnold did 35 00:03:04,284 --> 00:03:07,619 and you'll be like that, you know." Well, he took it seriously. 36 00:03:07,654 --> 00:03:09,321 [upbeat music] 37 00:03:09,356 --> 00:03:11,590 I started high school at 118 pounds, 38 00:03:11,625 --> 00:03:15,560 I ended up at 180 pounds and the strongest kid around. 39 00:03:15,595 --> 00:03:19,932 The harder I pushed the weights, the bigger and stronger I got, the better I felt. 40 00:03:23,536 --> 00:03:25,971 This is my high school football photo. 41 00:03:26,006 --> 00:03:28,640 On our games days, the guys would wear their jerseys and then 42 00:03:28,675 --> 00:03:32,010 the girls would wear their cheerleader outfits to school. 43 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:37,249 And me, I'd be sitting there in class with my jersey on and I'd be looking at them 44 00:03:37,284 --> 00:03:39,417 and wondering what it be like to switch places 45 00:03:39,452 --> 00:03:41,319 and be in their place. 46 00:03:41,354 --> 00:03:43,388 That was something that... 47 00:03:43,423 --> 00:03:44,956 That it's never been out of my mind 48 00:03:44,991 --> 00:03:46,625 for five minutes my entire life. 49 00:03:46,660 --> 00:03:48,460 It was something you just 50 00:03:48,495 --> 00:03:50,762 thought about all day, every day. 51 00:03:50,797 --> 00:03:51,863 And... 52 00:03:51,898 --> 00:03:53,698 I always been there... 53 00:03:53,733 --> 00:03:56,702 And it tortured me for a really, really long time. 54 00:03:58,438 --> 00:04:00,739 And this is my picture with President Clinton. 55 00:04:00,774 --> 00:04:03,008 I actually have taken in the Oval Office. 56 00:04:03,043 --> 00:04:04,809 Part of my reason for joining the Marines was 57 00:04:04,844 --> 00:04:06,778 to challenge myself to make my own way. 58 00:04:08,348 --> 00:04:11,316 And it was another way to push the feminine feelings down 59 00:04:11,351 --> 00:04:13,952 and really focus on the masculine stuff. 60 00:04:13,987 --> 00:04:16,855 If there was any period in my life I really overdid the macho thing, 61 00:04:16,890 --> 00:04:18,757 that was definitely during that Marines. 62 00:04:20,460 --> 00:04:21,926 First bodybuilder show. 63 00:04:21,961 --> 00:04:24,062 This is right after I got out of the Marines. 64 00:04:24,097 --> 00:04:25,830 [announcer] Grabbed this championship, 65 00:04:25,865 --> 00:04:26,831 Matt Kroczaleski. 66 00:04:26,866 --> 00:04:28,667 [audience cheering] 67 00:04:28,702 --> 00:04:29,834 [announcer] You go, Matt. You're looking good. 68 00:04:29,869 --> 00:04:32,304 Oh, yeah, nice job, Matt. 69 00:04:32,339 --> 00:04:33,805 Look at his abs. Good abs. 70 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,073 [Matt] I can tell you that just 71 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:36,775 being big and muscular means 72 00:04:36,810 --> 00:04:37,909 the vast majority of people 73 00:04:37,944 --> 00:04:39,378 aren't gonna mess with you. 74 00:04:40,814 --> 00:04:44,716 It makes the odds of running into trouble in that way much, much lower. 75 00:04:44,751 --> 00:04:46,918 [audience applauding] 76 00:04:46,953 --> 00:04:49,821 Right after that is when I got real serious about powerlifting. 77 00:04:49,856 --> 00:04:51,323 Come on, come on! 78 00:04:51,358 --> 00:04:52,757 Feeling less than everyone else, 79 00:04:52,792 --> 00:04:55,394 I had this really deep desire to win. 80 00:04:56,529 --> 00:04:57,495 [Patty] Come on, Matt. 81 00:04:57,530 --> 00:04:58,863 [audience cheering] 82 00:04:58,898 --> 00:04:59,831 Easy. 83 00:04:59,866 --> 00:05:00,832 [applause] 84 00:05:00,867 --> 00:05:01,800 That's good. 85 00:05:01,835 --> 00:05:02,734 It's my hun. 86 00:05:03,703 --> 00:05:05,470 [cheers and applause] 87 00:05:05,505 --> 00:05:07,906 [Matt] And as I grew, I met my wife. 88 00:05:07,941 --> 00:05:10,942 And while the marriage didn't last, my three sons 89 00:05:10,977 --> 00:05:12,711 became the most important thing in my life. 90 00:05:13,646 --> 00:05:16,081 [Matt] It's Christmas 2007. 91 00:05:16,116 --> 00:05:17,649 Good morning, Maxx. 92 00:05:17,684 --> 00:05:19,417 Good morning, Dad. 93 00:05:19,452 --> 00:05:20,952 -Yeah, it's a turtle. -[Matt] Go. 94 00:05:20,987 --> 00:05:22,854 Go, go, go. 95 00:05:22,889 --> 00:05:25,390 [Matt] I loved my father, but he simply wasn't there. 96 00:05:25,425 --> 00:05:27,659 [boy] Oh, turtle! 97 00:05:27,694 --> 00:05:29,928 -[Matt] Let me see, guys. Do you like them? -Yes. 98 00:05:30,964 --> 00:05:33,798 -Woo-hoo. -I like mine a lot. 99 00:05:33,833 --> 00:05:36,401 -[Logan] Thanks, Dad. -[Matt] You're welcome, buddy. 100 00:05:36,436 --> 00:05:38,904 [drumrolls] 101 00:05:41,975 --> 00:05:45,811 [Matt] It didn't matter if I was lying down for bed, I was thinking about lifting. 102 00:05:47,180 --> 00:05:49,681 Waking up first thing in the morning, I was thinking about it. 103 00:05:50,717 --> 00:05:55,887 You know, I'd be sitting in pharmacy school during lectures and, hum, you know, 104 00:05:55,922 --> 00:06:00,392 and... you know, I did alright and everything, but I-- I would be thinking about lifting. 105 00:06:00,427 --> 00:06:02,627 [exhaling sharply] 106 00:06:05,532 --> 00:06:07,933 [drumbeats] 107 00:06:11,438 --> 00:06:13,138 [exhaling sharply] 108 00:06:14,541 --> 00:06:15,574 [man] Yeah. 109 00:06:17,610 --> 00:06:20,379 [breathing] 110 00:06:25,618 --> 00:06:29,454 [drumbeats] 111 00:06:31,558 --> 00:06:32,924 [man] Yeah! 112 00:06:33,927 --> 00:06:35,727 [screams] 113 00:06:35,762 --> 00:06:37,129 [audience cheering] 114 00:06:42,836 --> 00:06:45,937 I was the first powerlifter picked by a major supplement company. 115 00:06:45,972 --> 00:06:48,039 Being big and strong, it gave me a sense of self. 116 00:06:48,074 --> 00:06:49,474 It gave me an identity. 117 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:52,944 I was the crazy guy, the tough guy, the intense guy, 118 00:06:52,979 --> 00:06:54,713 the one that could take anything. 119 00:06:57,517 --> 00:07:00,018 My identity wasn't Matt. It was Kroc. 120 00:07:00,053 --> 00:07:02,554 [drumroll buildup] 121 00:07:03,556 --> 00:07:06,791 By the time I was done, I had bench pressed 738 pounds, 122 00:07:06,826 --> 00:07:12,130 squatted 1,003, deadlifted 810, and the world record was mine. 123 00:07:13,566 --> 00:07:16,835 Compared to everyone my size, I was the strongest man on the planet. 124 00:07:19,939 --> 00:07:22,207 [electronic music] 125 00:07:24,644 --> 00:07:28,580 But I felt like the person I was, was completely constructed. 126 00:07:28,615 --> 00:07:31,216 There was a whole, whole bunch that was missing. 127 00:07:36,155 --> 00:07:40,058 And I didn't know if there was anything about me that was authentic. 128 00:07:40,093 --> 00:07:42,527 [melancholic music] 129 00:07:51,237 --> 00:07:53,905 My family had known for years that I was transgender, 130 00:07:55,542 --> 00:07:57,843 but to the outside world, I was still Kroc. 131 00:08:00,079 --> 00:08:03,181 More than once I have gotten dressed up and broke down crying 132 00:08:03,216 --> 00:08:07,552 when I look in the mirror and just so unhappy with my body and how I looked and 133 00:08:07,587 --> 00:08:11,656 my lack of ability to, you know, look feminine in the way that I wanted to. 134 00:08:35,949 --> 00:08:38,149 [LuiMarco] What's up, everybody? What you are looking at are 135 00:08:38,184 --> 00:08:41,786 pictures of a famous bodybuilder/powerlifter. 136 00:08:41,821 --> 00:08:44,222 His name is Matt Kroc. 137 00:08:44,257 --> 00:08:48,326 Right now that is a new Instagram. 138 00:08:48,361 --> 00:08:53,665 This time around, under the name of Janae Marie Kroc. 139 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:57,602 As you guys can appreciate the back gains are absolutely still loyal 140 00:08:57,637 --> 00:09:01,039 in my reckoning even though we cannot see it quite clearly. 141 00:09:02,075 --> 00:09:07,145 This is a front lat spread, definitely a sight to be seen, 142 00:09:07,180 --> 00:09:10,882 and the mass is still, actually, amazing. 143 00:09:11,818 --> 00:09:13,885 [melancholic music] 144 00:09:25,732 --> 00:09:29,267 [Matt] When that video went public, I decided it was time to stop hiding. 145 00:09:29,302 --> 00:09:33,238 If my story was gonna be told, I wanted to be the one who was going to tell it. 146 00:09:34,674 --> 00:09:37,108 Yes. OK, we're good now, we're good now. 147 00:09:37,143 --> 00:09:40,211 Alright, well, we're here today with a very special guest. 148 00:09:40,246 --> 00:09:43,047 We're here with Janae Kroc, 149 00:09:43,082 --> 00:09:47,285 and we got a lot of interesting and awesome things to get to today. 150 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,854 I mean, I didn't want any of this, that's what people don't understand. 151 00:09:49,889 --> 00:09:52,390 I mean, I fought this as hard as I could, as long as I could. 152 00:09:52,425 --> 00:09:55,960 Uhm, this isn't what I wanted. This was never a choice. You know, this is like... 153 00:09:55,995 --> 00:09:59,797 It's either this or be miserable, you know, forever, and, uhm... 154 00:09:59,832 --> 00:10:02,133 You know, at one point it drove me to consider suicide, and 155 00:10:02,168 --> 00:10:04,736 to be honest, this will be the biggest challenge I've ever faced, 156 00:10:04,771 --> 00:10:06,337 way harder than any of the injuries 157 00:10:06,372 --> 00:10:07,805 or even cancer for me. 158 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,674 Uhm, this is way more difficult. 159 00:10:09,709 --> 00:10:12,377 -When did you have cancer? -Back in 2004. 160 00:10:12,412 --> 00:10:16,014 Testicular cancer, ironically, and I remember thinking, 161 00:10:16,049 --> 00:10:18,950 "God, I hope it spreads everywhere, and they have to remove everything." 162 00:10:18,985 --> 00:10:21,219 I knew, like, being a pharmacist and having a medical background, 163 00:10:21,254 --> 00:10:22,420 I knew that's not how the cancer spreads. 164 00:10:22,455 --> 00:10:24,389 That's how overwhelming 165 00:10:24,424 --> 00:10:27,325 -this feeling was to need to be female. -That's crazy. 166 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,060 You're very physical, I mean, 167 00:10:29,095 --> 00:10:31,095 you had world records in powerlifting, 168 00:10:31,130 --> 00:10:34,666 a former marine, in general, just a fucking badass, 169 00:10:34,701 --> 00:10:37,435 so it's not like you're saying you're a girly girl, but-- 170 00:10:37,470 --> 00:10:41,272 -Right, but yeah... -When it comes to being a dude, you were a tough motherfucker. 171 00:10:41,307 --> 00:10:43,408 Yeah, and thank you. [chuckles] 172 00:10:43,443 --> 00:10:45,777 It sounds funny coming out of me now, but, 173 00:10:45,812 --> 00:10:48,079 [girly voice] That's the nicest thing anyone's ever said. 174 00:10:48,114 --> 00:10:49,981 Janae, don't break down. 175 00:10:50,016 --> 00:10:51,816 [Janae] The hardest thing with my failed 176 00:10:51,851 --> 00:10:53,317 transition attempts in the past was, 177 00:10:53,352 --> 00:10:55,687 there's only two things really on my mind: 178 00:10:55,722 --> 00:10:58,122 Being comfortable letting go of all that muscle 179 00:10:58,157 --> 00:11:00,258 and all that strength because not only 180 00:11:00,293 --> 00:11:02,760 you know, did I enjoy those things for competition and stuff, 181 00:11:02,795 --> 00:11:04,796 but it was a safety blanket and always has been. 182 00:11:04,831 --> 00:11:07,198 But then also, how is this gonna affect my boys? 183 00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:10,034 They're a hundred percent supportive. I mean, they've been telling me for years, 184 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:13,004 you know, "Do what you need to do. We love you either way. It doesn't matter." 185 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:16,207 But they're going from having the world champion powerlifter, 186 00:11:16,242 --> 00:11:19,143 super-dad that everyone looks up to, everybody loves their... 187 00:11:19,178 --> 00:11:21,312 I mean, the coaches and stuff all love me. 188 00:11:21,347 --> 00:11:23,381 Now they're gonna have the transgender dad. 189 00:11:23,416 --> 00:11:25,283 -[Mark] That was very permanent. -[Janae] It is. 190 00:11:25,318 --> 00:11:27,151 You know, and for them to say, "Hey, go do your thing" 191 00:11:27,186 --> 00:11:29,821 is really cool, but I think at the same time, 192 00:11:29,856 --> 00:11:33,224 it's good that you're recognizing that it's different, you know. 193 00:11:35,228 --> 00:11:37,428 [electronic music] 194 00:11:37,463 --> 00:11:39,764 [Dave] So, you said you're kind of transitioning now, 195 00:11:39,799 --> 00:11:41,966 and you said that kind of means losing weight? 196 00:11:42,001 --> 00:11:43,835 [Janae] So, at this point, I am cutting weight. 197 00:11:43,870 --> 00:11:46,070 Uhm, I've restarted female hormones. 198 00:11:46,105 --> 00:11:47,839 I'm moving forward with it. 199 00:11:47,874 --> 00:11:49,273 Is it a hundred percent? 200 00:11:49,308 --> 00:11:51,075 I've started and stopped five times before. 201 00:11:51,110 --> 00:11:52,844 So, there's... You know, never say never. 202 00:11:53,546 --> 00:11:55,180 [electronic music] 203 00:12:02,155 --> 00:12:04,422 [Matt] At first, you know, the attempt to transition was just 204 00:12:04,457 --> 00:12:07,025 dieting for a few months, stopping lifting. 205 00:12:08,361 --> 00:12:11,395 In my most recent attempt last year, I had dropped my lifting weight back 206 00:12:11,430 --> 00:12:14,899 and started taking female hormones, and before I decided that, 207 00:12:14,934 --> 00:12:16,167 "You know what, I can't do this." 208 00:12:20,807 --> 00:12:23,942 After that, I came back, and I got bigger than I'd ever been. 209 00:12:29,048 --> 00:12:32,884 For me, to be the woman that I want to be in appearance 210 00:12:32,919 --> 00:12:35,153 and physical form, might not be possible. 211 00:12:38,491 --> 00:12:43,094 I don't think I am comfortable as an extremely muscular woman, 212 00:12:43,129 --> 00:12:47,766 but as a guy, that's the only way I'm comfortable. So, what do I do? 213 00:12:48,935 --> 00:12:50,969 [tense music] 214 00:12:54,307 --> 00:12:56,541 Hey, guys. Finally made it, huh? 215 00:12:58,344 --> 00:13:00,945 -How's your day been? -Nice day. 216 00:13:04,417 --> 00:13:06,551 -It's good to see you, guys. -I know, it is. 217 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,555 -[Garrett] I just saw you a couple of days ago. -[Matt] I know. It was nice. 218 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:12,557 Got to see your football game, too. 219 00:13:12,592 --> 00:13:14,959 -Maxx, where's my hug, man? -Just got my pillowcase. 220 00:13:16,229 --> 00:13:17,528 I don't know why I always bring one. 221 00:13:17,563 --> 00:13:19,030 Why do you bring a pillowcase with you? 222 00:13:19,065 --> 00:13:23,267 Garret, can you do it today? 223 00:13:23,302 --> 00:13:26,838 Tonight, I'm gonna go out to a club and stay out. You guys wanna come? 224 00:13:26,873 --> 00:13:29,140 -We can't. Logan can. -I'll sneak you in, get you some beers. 225 00:13:29,175 --> 00:13:30,208 [laughter] 226 00:13:31,611 --> 00:13:33,845 A pillowcase, dude, when are you gonna get a backpack or something? 227 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:35,179 -I don't know. -I know, that... [chuckles] 228 00:13:35,214 --> 00:13:36,948 [Matt] OK, my buddy, 229 00:13:36,983 --> 00:13:39,550 we might have some of the stuff for the Camaro. 230 00:13:39,585 --> 00:13:42,453 It was running really smooth, but then it was bogging when I'd open all the way up, 231 00:13:42,488 --> 00:13:44,889 especially about three, and especially about 4,000. 232 00:13:44,924 --> 00:13:47,925 So basically, I'm going into each one of these little cells, and... 233 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,594 -[Garrett] Usually you make slight adjustments? -[Matt] Yeah. 234 00:13:49,629 --> 00:13:52,029 You never want to make big adjustments. 235 00:13:52,064 --> 00:13:53,431 That's how you blow motors up. 236 00:13:53,466 --> 00:13:55,400 Logan, do you understand this stuff? 237 00:13:56,602 --> 00:13:59,237 Not all, not a hundred percent of it, but yes. 238 00:13:59,272 --> 00:14:01,906 -Neither do I. -I don't get it, how you guys know that. 239 00:14:01,941 --> 00:14:05,509 OK, so do you... OK, what don't you understand, Maxx? What does the spark mean? 240 00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:09,080 -I explained to you like the compression stroke, right? -No, like, just everything. 241 00:14:09,115 --> 00:14:11,415 -Like how many... Everything? -[Maxx] Everything about it. 242 00:14:11,450 --> 00:14:13,351 -[Matt] Is everybody buckled in? -[Logan] I'm buckled. 243 00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:15,119 -[Garrett] Yeah, I am. -[Maxx] Dad, I only get like 244 00:14:15,154 --> 00:14:17,154 one of those words you just said. 245 00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:18,422 I was like, "What's spark?" 246 00:14:18,457 --> 00:14:19,858 [all laughing] 247 00:14:21,127 --> 00:14:23,561 -You'll learn, Maxx, you'll learn. -[Maxx] Hold on to it. 248 00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:26,264 [engine starts] 249 00:14:41,414 --> 00:14:44,315 [Matt] I'm really, really fortunate to have three amazing boys. 250 00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:49,553 I told them about being a girl when they were two, four, and six. 251 00:14:49,588 --> 00:14:51,522 [water splashing] 252 00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:54,091 [Matt] I'm a very big believer in honesty and openness, 253 00:14:54,126 --> 00:14:56,127 so I didn't feel it was right to keep it from them. 254 00:15:00,299 --> 00:15:03,000 [Matt] The hair says no. The hair says no. 255 00:15:03,035 --> 00:15:05,002 [laughter] 256 00:15:05,037 --> 00:15:06,170 [Matt] Oh, no. 257 00:15:07,506 --> 00:15:09,073 Hey, that's not fair. 258 00:15:10,609 --> 00:15:11,642 Good job. 259 00:15:11,677 --> 00:15:12,911 [indistinct] 260 00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,714 -Pull the pants. -O, get... Hold on. 261 00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:18,282 We got speed. 262 00:15:18,317 --> 00:15:19,517 [laughs] 263 00:15:20,553 --> 00:15:21,586 [playing] 264 00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:24,488 -Argh! -Yeah! 265 00:15:24,523 --> 00:15:26,557 [all screaming and laughing] 266 00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:31,229 -No rematch. We're done. -No rematch. 267 00:15:33,532 --> 00:15:35,099 Alright. 268 00:15:35,134 --> 00:15:36,634 I might try that on and see 269 00:15:36,669 --> 00:15:38,703 how that's gonna look. 270 00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:40,705 Actually, I might give that a try too. 271 00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:45,443 Oh... We'll see. 272 00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:51,349 Nah, it's a little bit burly. Don't think I really like the way it hangs on my body. 273 00:15:55,421 --> 00:15:57,322 Think I wanna go with the other shirt, actually. 274 00:15:59,392 --> 00:16:04,362 Yes, that should work for the white theme and... And wear these boots with them. 275 00:16:05,498 --> 00:16:08,299 Just a little more dramatic and the makeup and hair... it should be fun. 276 00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:13,671 Clothes aren't designed very well for me and especially, being as big as I am. 277 00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:16,140 So we go through the same thing, like when a girl starts 278 00:16:16,175 --> 00:16:18,109 playing with makeup, when she's a teenager, 279 00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:20,511 how to best apply your makeup and 280 00:16:20,546 --> 00:16:23,047 what clothes work with your body and what doesn't. 281 00:16:25,051 --> 00:16:27,151 Whose water is this? Is this you guys' water? 282 00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:31,155 Huh? Yeah, it's mine. 283 00:16:31,190 --> 00:16:33,691 [boys talking in the background] 284 00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:35,326 Shoot, it's out. 285 00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:46,103 -[Garrett] Oh! Aaron Black. -[Maxx] No, no. Dude, I'm not gonna play with you. 286 00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:47,705 -[Janae] Dude, Aaron Black is like cheating. -[Maxx] Yes. 287 00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:50,141 He just shoots you with the gun in broad light. 288 00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,676 Dude, no. Don't Aaron Black. That's so mean. 289 00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:55,312 People can say whatever, but the only thing that do frustrate me is 290 00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:58,282 when they talk about like, you know, "what a terrible parent, how... 291 00:16:58,317 --> 00:17:01,352 You know, horrible that is. How can you do that to your boys" and stuff like that. 292 00:17:01,387 --> 00:17:05,256 It's like, "You know what? Screw you guys. You have no idea what our life is like." 293 00:17:05,291 --> 00:17:07,658 It's just that assumption that it's... 294 00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:11,629 you know, that it's somehow a horrible thing and somehow it's difficult for them. 295 00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:15,699 But really, it's been a good thing because it's allowed them realize, 296 00:17:15,734 --> 00:17:18,636 grow up realizing that not everybody's the same and that's OK. 297 00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:21,105 [Garrett] And you're happier, which is great too. 298 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:23,541 I don't know, I just thought you were like holding back and stuff. 299 00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:27,411 Well, yeah, because I didn't want you guys to have to deal with a lot of BS. 300 00:17:27,446 --> 00:17:32,183 Who cares about what other people say or, you know, tell you can't do this or that. 301 00:17:32,218 --> 00:17:35,619 I think what it really all boils down to, if you want to do something, go and do it. 302 00:17:35,654 --> 00:17:38,289 You're the only person holding yourself back. 303 00:17:38,324 --> 00:17:39,791 That's what you really taught me. 304 00:17:42,161 --> 00:17:45,329 I cannot think of a single person, I respect more than my father. 305 00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:48,800 -Saying there's really nobody, right? -I really can't. 306 00:17:50,703 --> 00:17:52,470 Thanks, guys. [laughter] 307 00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:53,704 Made me cry. Ruin my makeup. 308 00:17:53,739 --> 00:17:54,772 [laughter] 309 00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:57,708 Good thing, I haven't done my eyes yet. 310 00:18:00,146 --> 00:18:01,879 How long have you been doing makeup for? 311 00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:04,381 I started really, like, When your mom and I split. 312 00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:07,351 I had a talk with her and, uhm, said, like, 313 00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:10,488 "Look, I have to deal with this. I can't do this anymore." 314 00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:13,724 As far as she would come, is that: "Just do it, when I'm not home, 315 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:15,860 the boys aren't home, I don't want to see it. I don't want to hear about it. 316 00:18:15,895 --> 00:18:18,229 I don't want to talk about it." And I was like, 317 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:20,297 Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna work, but... 318 00:18:20,332 --> 00:18:24,135 So, that's basically one of the reasons we split up. 319 00:18:27,173 --> 00:18:30,341 Pizza and makeup, huh? Our new Friday nights? 320 00:18:37,816 --> 00:18:39,884 -Whoa, whoa, whoa. -That's not even cool. 321 00:18:41,187 --> 00:18:43,287 Wait, Garret, can I test out my move now? 322 00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:53,864 All right guys, don't be up too late, alright? 323 00:18:53,899 --> 00:18:57,201 -[woman] Guys, just the perfect timing. -[Garrett] Are you leaving? 324 00:18:57,236 --> 00:18:59,937 U-hum, hang on one second, I got to put my boots on first. 325 00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:01,372 -[Maxx] Mom. -Mom? 326 00:19:01,407 --> 00:19:02,873 [Garret] Don't drink too much. 327 00:19:02,908 --> 00:19:04,408 [Janae] Don't drink too much? 328 00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:05,376 What fun is that? 329 00:19:07,346 --> 00:19:08,579 At least it's nice out. 330 00:19:15,688 --> 00:19:19,223 [alternative R&B music] 331 00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:32,436 -I'll get your first round, OK? -What's up, dude? 332 00:19:32,471 --> 00:19:33,604 I'll give you your first round. 333 00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:35,973 OK, thank you. Appreciate it. 334 00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:37,708 -[man] Full-size glass. -[Matt] Thanks. 335 00:19:37,743 --> 00:19:39,177 [male voice] You're a rock-star. 336 00:19:40,413 --> 00:19:43,347 Like I said, that bartender back there, he totally like... 337 00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:46,617 I'll take it, whatever. 338 00:19:46,652 --> 00:19:48,419 [alternative R&B music] 339 00:20:02,001 --> 00:20:04,635 [Matt] Going out as a transgender woman and not, you know, 340 00:20:04,670 --> 00:20:08,005 passing as a genetic female, it's tough, it's hard. 341 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,575 You know, and I think, gosh, can I really pull this off? 342 00:20:11,610 --> 00:20:13,477 You know, is it really gonna work? 343 00:20:13,512 --> 00:20:14,879 [alternative R&B music] 344 00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:26,323 Am I gonna to have peace? Am I gonna to feel whole? Am I gonna to feel complete? 345 00:20:26,358 --> 00:20:30,962 Am I gonna be able to, you now, function in society the way I want to? Is this for real? 346 00:20:32,831 --> 00:20:34,465 [music fades] 347 00:20:40,572 --> 00:20:43,307 -[Matt] Hey. Good. How are you? -[Sarah] How are you? Good to see you. 348 00:20:43,342 --> 00:20:45,643 -Follow me this way. -All right. Thanks. 349 00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:52,483 Are you guys ready to order or you just want to see the menu? 350 00:20:52,518 --> 00:20:54,318 -No. -[Sarah] Did you need a minute? 351 00:20:54,353 --> 00:20:56,754 No, I'm good. I'm just gonna do a Chef's salad. 352 00:20:56,789 --> 00:21:00,258 -Large Chef's salad. -Uhm, how big are the smalls? 353 00:21:01,493 --> 00:21:03,027 -A small is small. -[Sarah] You know you don't want no small. 354 00:21:03,062 --> 00:21:04,528 -All right. Large. -[Sarah] Do large. 355 00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:05,696 -As usual. -[Sarah laughs] 356 00:21:05,731 --> 00:21:07,831 Great. Thank you. 357 00:21:07,866 --> 00:21:09,600 [Matt] Thanks. 358 00:21:09,635 --> 00:21:11,035 -A small? [laughs] -Yes, right. 359 00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:12,937 When do I order small anything, right? 360 00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,510 -Chef's salad. -Thank you. 361 00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:22,980 -I've got French Fries for you. -Thank you. 362 00:21:23,015 --> 00:21:25,049 Bacon and cheese. 363 00:21:25,084 --> 00:21:26,884 I will be right back with your vinegar and oil. 364 00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:28,652 Alright. Awesome. Thank you. 365 00:21:28,687 --> 00:21:30,521 So, we're going up north tomorrow, 366 00:21:30,556 --> 00:21:32,623 and my mom's meeting Janae for the first time. 367 00:21:32,658 --> 00:21:35,592 Oh, my God. No, but I'm saying like, 368 00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:37,828 this is your first time meeting your mom as Janae. 369 00:21:37,863 --> 00:21:41,965 I said: "Look, mom, I understood, like, that you don't understand 370 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,601 and that you had a hard time with it, I get all that." 371 00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:49,773 I said: "But what I don't get it's been 10 years, and you haven't even tried." 372 00:21:49,808 --> 00:21:51,442 We can't even have a conversation about it. 373 00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:52,509 As soon as I start talking about it, 374 00:21:52,544 --> 00:21:53,811 you change your topic." 375 00:21:53,846 --> 00:21:55,612 So, you know, she's had 376 00:21:55,647 --> 00:21:57,481 every opportunity in the world. 377 00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:59,850 So, you know, it's her own fault. 378 00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:02,653 It's so true. 379 00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:07,024 [phone rings] 380 00:22:12,731 --> 00:22:15,532 -[Mom] Hello. -[Matt] Hey. How's it's going? 381 00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:19,136 -[Mom] What's up? -Oh, I just let you know, like give you the time, 382 00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:22,406 I'll probably leave here in about 45 minutes or so. So probably around 11... 383 00:22:22,441 --> 00:22:25,109 -OK. -OK. Then I'll probably be there around 1:00. 384 00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:28,078 -It's what I'm thinking. -Are you going to your dad? 385 00:22:28,113 --> 00:22:30,647 Yeah. I'm gonna visit you first and go visit him. 386 00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:33,884 -Yeah. -Oh. Fine. That'll be fine. 387 00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:36,420 Alright. So, you're ready for this? 388 00:22:37,122 --> 00:22:38,789 I have no choice. Do I? [laughs] 389 00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,858 Well, I've given you 10 years. 390 00:22:40,893 --> 00:22:42,827 I'm hoping that you're ready now. 391 00:22:43,762 --> 00:22:47,965 -I don't know. We'll see. [laughs]. -You'll be fine. 392 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,668 Yes. Sure. That's easy for you to say. 393 00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:56,640 You think it's easy for me? Don't you think it's harder for me than you? 394 00:22:57,576 --> 00:22:58,942 -No. -No? 395 00:22:58,977 --> 00:23:00,644 For you it's so natural. 396 00:23:00,679 --> 00:23:01,679 Yeah. 397 00:23:08,754 --> 00:23:12,956 [sighs] As a guy, I hear from women all the time they love my voice. 398 00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:16,660 It's naturally deep. As a girl, it makes me very uncomfortable, and... 399 00:23:16,695 --> 00:23:19,597 It's like my female voice leaves a lot to be desired. 400 00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:22,866 The vocal surgery, it had to be something, well... 401 00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:25,035 I'm 100% ready to give up my guy side. 402 00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:29,206 You know, it's one of those things that I can't do, or I won't do 403 00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:32,009 unless I was ready to completely transition. 404 00:23:32,044 --> 00:23:35,979 I would be much more comfortable having bottom surgery and still living in both genders. 405 00:23:36,014 --> 00:23:39,616 The fact that whether I have a penis or vagina isn't that big of a deal to me. 406 00:23:39,651 --> 00:23:42,753 That really has more to do with who I'm with. 407 00:23:42,788 --> 00:23:47,425 But the vocal surgery, once you got a female voice, there's no going back. 408 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,613 [Mom] He's here. 409 00:24:09,648 --> 00:24:12,450 -Hi, honey. -Hi, nice to see you. 410 00:24:13,252 --> 00:24:15,820 -It's not a big deal, is it? -No. 411 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:20,858 But, uhm... I still like my man. [laughs] 412 00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:24,795 Well, for now, they're still both of me are still around, 413 00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:26,931 but I can't tell you that it'll stay that way or not. 414 00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:31,535 And I guess I'm not as shocked about you because the ones I see on TV. 415 00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:37,107 I mean, they look like a man trying to be a woman. There's nothing... 416 00:24:38,076 --> 00:24:40,744 -It doesn't matter, it's-- -No, but I mean, they don't-- 417 00:24:40,779 --> 00:24:42,980 [Clarence] It's not your body. It's how you feel. 418 00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:45,716 -Would you think that wasn't his hair? Matt's hair? -Huh? 419 00:24:45,751 --> 00:24:47,217 -Which-- look. -Janae's hair? 420 00:24:47,252 --> 00:24:49,152 Or her hair? Would you think that was her hair? 421 00:24:49,187 --> 00:24:50,854 [Clarence] No. 422 00:24:50,889 --> 00:24:52,289 No. You would think it is. 423 00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,725 -Looks natural, right? -Yeah. 424 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,593 [Clarence] I didn't know. It looks natural. 425 00:24:56,628 --> 00:24:58,295 And it's not. 426 00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:01,698 When Matt first called me, for a while, I grieved. 427 00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:04,601 I actually... I couldn't sort my feelings. 428 00:25:04,636 --> 00:25:08,639 I thought, "Why in hell?" I'm... But it was almost like Matt died. 429 00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:10,774 [emotional music] 430 00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:13,677 I talked to my middle son and he said the same thing. 431 00:25:13,712 --> 00:25:17,681 He said, "I love Matt. I don't know this Janae. 432 00:25:17,716 --> 00:25:19,249 Matt is my buddy, my brother. 433 00:25:19,284 --> 00:25:22,185 We grew up, we did the guy things." You know... 434 00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:27,157 And, uhm... it's hard, you grieve, you hate it, you hide it. 435 00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:28,959 You don't want to talk about it. 436 00:25:31,663 --> 00:25:34,298 Living in this area, people say, "How's Matt doing?" 437 00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,733 I say: "Just fine." That's all I say. I don't talk about it. 438 00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:39,803 But as a mother, it's the hardest thing I dealt with. 439 00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:41,204 It's like a death. 440 00:25:41,239 --> 00:25:42,839 And people will say: "No, it's not." 441 00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:45,576 To me, it is. I grieved, you cry, but 442 00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:48,212 it comes down to... it's your child. 443 00:25:49,948 --> 00:25:53,717 You can love him, walk away or... I'm not walking away. 444 00:25:53,752 --> 00:25:55,219 [emotional music] 445 00:25:58,790 --> 00:26:03,260 Having to convert back to Matt, sometimes it's like depressing, a little bit. 446 00:26:04,796 --> 00:26:07,364 I really don't like my face [chuckles]. 447 00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:10,234 I feel a lot better with the makeup and wig on. 448 00:26:13,705 --> 00:26:16,006 When I'm going around as Janae, I mean, I'm conscious 449 00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:18,609 of how I sound, but it's not like I make an effort. 450 00:26:18,644 --> 00:26:21,244 It's not like... I mean, a little bit with a pitch 451 00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,982 but the way I talk and you'll notice my manners, I'm changed to a certain degree. 452 00:26:25,017 --> 00:26:29,786 And just the way I form my sentences and the intonation behind my voice. 453 00:26:29,821 --> 00:26:30,821 That just all happens. 454 00:26:43,201 --> 00:26:44,868 [phone rings] 455 00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:47,037 -[Dad] Hello? -Hey, what's up, old man? 456 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,108 Hello, Matt. Where are you at? 457 00:26:51,143 --> 00:26:53,877 At mom's, leaving mom's right now. I'll be there in about 10 minutes. 458 00:26:54,913 --> 00:26:56,080 Oh, OK. 459 00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:02,185 Last time I saw mom. When I saw you when you were 460 00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:04,755 -camping by the river last summer. And then... -Yeah. 461 00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:07,090 You should've come up when the UP was up there. 462 00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,292 [sighs] Yes, I just didn't have time. 463 00:27:09,327 --> 00:27:11,261 You know, when you do get busy, you got to get stuff done, you know. 464 00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:13,697 But... But if you go up there again, 465 00:27:13,732 --> 00:27:15,666 if you do head up there this summer, let me know. I'll bring the boys. 466 00:27:16,702 --> 00:27:17,401 [coughing] 467 00:27:18,937 --> 00:27:21,104 I was glad to see Matt succeed 468 00:27:21,139 --> 00:27:24,174 at what he'd been doing all his life. 469 00:27:24,209 --> 00:27:27,177 And, I mean, he worked hard at it. And... 470 00:27:27,212 --> 00:27:32,983 Neither me or my wife, you know, ever dreamed that, you know, he'd get as far as he did. 471 00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:37,721 I'd see him stick with it. 472 00:27:37,756 --> 00:27:39,323 You know. [chuckles] 473 00:27:40,726 --> 00:27:44,061 Yeah, well, things are going down a different path now. 474 00:27:44,096 --> 00:27:46,229 -Well, you're 40 what now? -Three. 475 00:27:46,264 --> 00:27:49,066 -43. -Yeah, my competitive days are pretty much over now. 476 00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:52,069 It's just between age being a factor and then, 477 00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:53,970 you know, the transgender stuff. 478 00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:55,872 -Can't figure-- -That's my hope, 479 00:27:55,907 --> 00:27:58,108 you change your mind about it before it's too late. 480 00:27:58,143 --> 00:28:00,110 You know, It's not a matter of changing the minds, you know. 481 00:28:00,145 --> 00:28:01,478 You can't change your way. 482 00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:04,281 You'll wind up like Bruce Jenner... 483 00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:05,683 with severe depression. 484 00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:08,151 -Don't believe everything... -That happens a lot. 485 00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:10,220 Oh, sure it does. It's not an easy life. 486 00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:12,889 -You know, it's changing and... -Well, you better be sure. 487 00:28:12,924 --> 00:28:15,392 That's all I got to say 'cause you can't go back. 488 00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:19,963 And if you show up here with your long hair and boobs, I'm going the other way. 489 00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:21,498 -Oh, really? -Yeah. 490 00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:23,900 Yeah? What if it does happen? 491 00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:25,436 -Better not. -Yeah. 492 00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:32,710 You want to see me freak? I've seen one picture, got freaked on that. 493 00:28:34,813 --> 00:28:36,346 Whatever you call yourself. 494 00:28:39,117 --> 00:28:40,884 [nostalgic piano music] 495 00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,393 [Matt] This is, uhm, where I grew up at. 496 00:28:52,898 --> 00:28:55,065 Oh, yeah, the secret basement back here. 497 00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:59,035 You'd flip up a door and there was a ladder down into it 498 00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,439 and for a while, it was my dad's pot-growing house. 499 00:29:06,211 --> 00:29:08,979 We weren't allowed down there. We were told there was dangerous chemicals. 500 00:29:09,014 --> 00:29:10,914 We just didn't know they were THC. 501 00:29:13,985 --> 00:29:16,086 This big oak back here, I built a tree fort in. 502 00:29:16,121 --> 00:29:18,021 Some of the boards are still hanging in the tree. 503 00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:24,361 Down here, there's a big sand hill. 504 00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:26,096 I used to sprint up and down this. 505 00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:27,964 With a... I used to carry a big log on my back, 506 00:29:27,999 --> 00:29:29,366 and I'd run up and down this hill. 507 00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:37,908 This is where we came to fish in the spring and in the fall 508 00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:41,578 and I learned how to swim in the river and almost died in the river. 509 00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,446 I almost drowned there when I was eight. 510 00:29:43,481 --> 00:29:45,949 Fell into a drop-off and with the current, 511 00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:49,386 I remember falling through the water and seeing the sunlight disappear. 512 00:29:49,421 --> 00:29:52,189 Seeing everything turn green and then seeing everything turn black. 513 00:29:59,931 --> 00:30:01,965 There are times when I wanted to get away and 514 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,301 I wanted quiet and peace, this is where I'd come. 515 00:30:04,336 --> 00:30:07,971 I would just sit there on the bank and look into the water. 516 00:30:15,413 --> 00:30:18,081 Yeah, it's crazy actually, how much this looks exactly the same. 517 00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:26,890 These are my fishing stuff from the spring. 518 00:30:38,103 --> 00:30:39,336 [children playing] 519 00:30:44,442 --> 00:30:47,511 -Hey! -Hey you. Oh, my God. 520 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,146 -It's so good to see you. -How are you? 521 00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:52,115 Oh, my God, it's so awesome to see you guys. 522 00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:54,050 I can't believe it. It's been a couple of years, right? 523 00:30:54,085 --> 00:30:56,052 -Two years. -Since Vegas, right? 524 00:30:56,087 --> 00:30:57,621 Yes, two years since Vegas. 525 00:30:57,656 --> 00:31:00,423 Crazy. Look a little different. 526 00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:01,591 -You look good. -I love it. 527 00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:03,293 Oh, thanks. 528 00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:05,996 I'm still fairly muscular. Like, my God. 529 00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:09,266 -Yah, a tiny bit. -I still see you very feminine. 530 00:31:09,301 --> 00:31:11,468 Well, thank you. I'm working on it, I'm trying. 531 00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:14,104 Still it's killing me, I really want to get my waist 532 00:31:14,139 --> 00:31:15,939 really small and I'm having a hell of a time. 533 00:31:15,974 --> 00:31:20,076 Estrogen and that goes on so easy. It's like, argh! 534 00:31:20,111 --> 00:31:22,178 [overlapping talk] 535 00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,949 -Cheers. It's lovely, lovely to see you. -Thank you. Yes. 536 00:31:25,984 --> 00:31:29,519 I have a billion questions, but I've none at the same time. You know what I mean? 537 00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:34,557 I still... I still would like to have a little facial surgery done, but I'm not... 538 00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:37,261 Like, I'm kind of hesitant to do it because... 539 00:31:38,229 --> 00:31:42,065 I like how I look now, uhm, but I would still like to look more feminine. 540 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:45,035 'Cause, like, I feel like with makeup and stuff I look okay, 541 00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:49,472 but without any makeup or anything, I think I still look very masculine, so... 542 00:31:49,507 --> 00:31:52,309 Just being smaller all together has made a difference and 543 00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:56,346 then just the estrogen and not tons of testosterone, and... 544 00:31:56,381 --> 00:31:59,082 Do you find you need to see someone to kind of guide you? 545 00:31:59,117 --> 00:32:00,984 Like would you see a counselor or anybody? 546 00:32:01,019 --> 00:32:02,252 I did a lot of therapy stuff when I was first 547 00:32:02,287 --> 00:32:03,386 dealing with everything. 548 00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:05,255 For me, it was really no... 549 00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:06,957 more helpful than just talking to one of my friends. 550 00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:08,591 Just someone I could bounce stuff off of. 551 00:32:08,626 --> 00:32:11,528 I don't know, like... My sexual, I'm still... 552 00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:13,964 It's difficult because I'm still primarily 553 00:32:13,999 --> 00:32:16,466 attracted to women, always have been, still am. 554 00:32:16,501 --> 00:32:18,668 It's just once you get to the bedroom then it's like, 555 00:32:18,703 --> 00:32:22,105 "Okay, how do things work now?" That's the tricky part. 556 00:32:23,408 --> 00:32:25,742 OK, so, the two options for tonight... 557 00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:28,578 This one actually, for whatever reason, 558 00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:30,613 my body looks more feminine in this one. 559 00:32:30,648 --> 00:32:32,415 It's supposed to throw the waist shaper thing on. 560 00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:33,650 I could throw the top on right here and then 561 00:32:33,685 --> 00:32:34,651 I'll change the pants. 562 00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:36,019 OK, sorry I got to throw 563 00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:37,153 some money at you, one sec. 564 00:32:37,188 --> 00:32:39,089 [laughter] 565 00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,590 -I'm sorry to disappoint you. -I don't have no $5 bills. 566 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:43,460 I'm fatter and smaller than I used to be, so... 567 00:32:46,331 --> 00:32:48,631 Alright, the favorite shirt. 568 00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,500 Yeah. Here we go. 569 00:32:50,535 --> 00:32:52,035 It's been pre-selected. 570 00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:56,172 Yeah, like I said, like I love this shirt. I absolutely love it. 571 00:32:56,207 --> 00:32:58,708 I love the design, I think it's really cool and everything, but... 572 00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:02,245 -I don't think it makes you look wider or bigger. No. -You don't think so? 573 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,680 Woo-hoo! 574 00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:05,348 -Like the white? -OK, the ass. 575 00:33:05,383 --> 00:33:07,684 It's not bad. It's not bad at all. 576 00:33:07,719 --> 00:33:09,619 -What are you talking about? -Seriously? 577 00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:10,720 They're shaped. 578 00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:12,422 [chuckles] 579 00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:14,658 I do have a big butt, everybody said that. 580 00:33:19,731 --> 00:33:22,065 [Matt] Ugh, I don't know if I'm up to 170s. 581 00:33:23,201 --> 00:33:24,667 [exhales deeply] 582 00:33:24,702 --> 00:33:27,004 Maybe drop her down to 150s. 583 00:33:28,139 --> 00:33:29,573 I'll take those for a ride. 584 00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:32,675 [drumbeats] 585 00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:33,710 Fucking 150s. 586 00:33:36,314 --> 00:33:37,781 [panting and grunting] 587 00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:41,584 Let's go. 588 00:33:41,619 --> 00:33:42,719 Come on, let's go. 589 00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:44,621 Let's go! 590 00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:45,688 Good, come on. 591 00:33:45,723 --> 00:33:46,723 Push, push! 592 00:33:48,226 --> 00:33:49,259 Nice job. 593 00:33:51,129 --> 00:33:52,662 [Shane] Come on Drew, let's go. 594 00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:53,696 [Matt] Easy weight for you, buddy. 595 00:33:53,731 --> 00:33:55,732 Let's go. 596 00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:58,168 Come on, Drew, let's go. Let's go, Drew. 597 00:33:58,203 --> 00:33:59,235 -Get out to this shit. -Come on! 598 00:33:59,270 --> 00:34:00,370 Alright, Drew, let's go. 599 00:34:00,405 --> 00:34:01,337 Come on, sit nice and tight. 600 00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:02,372 Don't be a pussy. 601 00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:06,576 -Get up, up, up. -Easy. 602 00:34:06,611 --> 00:34:07,811 Let's go. 603 00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:12,715 Fucking pussy weight. 604 00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:13,850 Let's go, bitch. 605 00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:15,218 [exhaling and shouting] 606 00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:17,587 [Drew] Let's go, man, come on. 607 00:34:19,791 --> 00:34:25,162 [Shane] Good. Come on, Matt. Let's go, let's go. Push! Good job. 608 00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:27,630 [metal bang] 609 00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:29,466 -[Matt] I'll be damned. -[Shane] Good job. 610 00:34:29,501 --> 00:34:32,102 It's not bad for being a weak little bitch. 611 00:34:33,171 --> 00:34:37,640 This shit right here is why I can't give up my guy side. You know, it's... 612 00:34:37,675 --> 00:34:39,810 Loving this stuff and hanging out with these guys. 613 00:34:41,212 --> 00:34:43,680 You know, this is the kind of shit that I still live for too, you know. 614 00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:47,550 So, it makes it... It makes it hard, but... 615 00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:51,754 These guys have seen me go back and forth, probably more times than they can count. 616 00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:54,757 I think there'll always be too much Matt for Janae to be a... 617 00:34:54,792 --> 00:34:58,628 And being a woman. If you want to say a stereotype woman. 618 00:34:58,663 --> 00:35:01,498 The... the 120 pounds. 619 00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:03,299 That'll never happen. That... That... 620 00:35:03,334 --> 00:35:05,368 -Not because, to be honest-- -He couldn't do it. 621 00:35:05,403 --> 00:35:08,238 He couldn't do it because this guy, his fuck-- his mentality, 622 00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:10,840 he can do whatever he wants to do, but he wouldn't be happy. 623 00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:14,777 I don't think he can do it. I don't think you can go to 200 again. 624 00:35:14,812 --> 00:35:18,181 -I think you're probably right. -That's what I'm trying to say so... 625 00:35:18,216 --> 00:35:21,451 Whether it's Janae or Matt, fitness is number one. 626 00:35:22,387 --> 00:35:24,787 Always gonna be number one in the family. 627 00:35:24,822 --> 00:35:29,359 But fitness, he'll never allow himself to get that small again. 628 00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:32,695 I was like, "Fuck that. I won't be 275 again." 629 00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:36,566 But these guys are, you know, my very best friends and it is, 630 00:35:36,601 --> 00:35:39,469 it's like brothers. I mean, I count on these guys for anything, and... 631 00:35:41,439 --> 00:35:42,439 Fuck, I get choked up. 632 00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,545 I count on these guys for anything, and... 633 00:35:53,918 --> 00:35:55,252 [Shane] The way it should be. 634 00:35:57,789 --> 00:36:03,293 It doesn't matter, I mean, it doesn't matter if I'm... Even with the transition stuff. 635 00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:05,495 It's just, you know... Yeah. 636 00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:07,664 You know, they are, they're like brothers, really. 637 00:36:10,568 --> 00:36:11,768 [emotional music] 638 00:36:36,661 --> 00:36:38,328 [Matt] Right now, there's just this feeling 639 00:36:38,363 --> 00:36:40,764 of being pulled between two worlds and 640 00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:46,769 this, you know, complete frustration and how am I 641 00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:50,273 ever gonna find peace and balance, and... 642 00:36:50,308 --> 00:36:52,976 And at this point, I really think the honest answer is, I won't. 643 00:37:01,586 --> 00:37:02,619 [heavy breathing] 644 00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:08,692 [exhaling heavily] 645 00:37:46,798 --> 00:37:49,732 [Matt] Being told that my hair loss is beyond the point 646 00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,435 where I can actually grow it out, that was devastating 647 00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:56,673 to hear because putting a wig on for me feels like costume, 648 00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:59,976 it feels like dress up, it feels like pretending. 649 00:38:03,581 --> 00:38:06,416 This conference sounds like it's gonna be... 650 00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:08,518 It's a little bit of a cluster. 651 00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:10,653 Fortunately, I've been doing this stuff for years. 652 00:38:10,688 --> 00:38:14,791 I've run meets, spotted, loaded, judged. 653 00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:16,759 I've done pretty much everything you can do 654 00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:18,995 with all the powerlifting stuff for a long time. 655 00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,832 I don't think anybody there really has any experience with it. 656 00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,834 They didn't really know what they're getting into. 657 00:38:24,869 --> 00:38:26,569 Fortunately, there's not a ton of competitors, 658 00:38:26,604 --> 00:38:28,871 so we should pull it off okay. 659 00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:37,413 This event is specifically for transgender competitors. 660 00:38:37,448 --> 00:38:40,650 I'll be kind of, you know, basically helping them run the competition, 661 00:38:40,685 --> 00:38:45,555 judge, and probably be a Jill of all trades tomorrow, so... 662 00:38:58,503 --> 00:38:59,736 [Matt] Alright. Ready, guys? 663 00:39:01,706 --> 00:39:03,573 That crease has to break the top of the knee 664 00:39:03,608 --> 00:39:06,376 and that constitutes being low enough and a good lift. 665 00:39:06,411 --> 00:39:08,945 So if you come out of the hole and maybe come up a little bit, maybe starting 666 00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:10,847 to lose your balance, go down a little and start to come back up. 667 00:39:10,882 --> 00:39:12,482 I'm just gonna have the spotters take it 668 00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:14,384 because the lifts are already no good. 669 00:39:14,419 --> 00:39:16,553 Any questions at all from anyone before we get started? 670 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,789 Alright. Good luck to everybody. 671 00:39:19,824 --> 00:39:21,457 Alright. 672 00:39:21,492 --> 00:39:22,425 Squat. 673 00:39:23,628 --> 00:39:25,762 Up, up, up. Rack. 674 00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:28,164 [applause] 675 00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,902 -[Matt] All right. -[announcer] The next lifter is Ryan Bird, 285. 676 00:39:32,937 --> 00:39:36,038 285, that's gonna be a 25 and a 5 on each side. 677 00:39:36,073 --> 00:39:38,408 25 and a 5. 678 00:39:38,443 --> 00:39:40,610 -Squat. -Ease out, ease out, ease out. 679 00:39:40,645 --> 00:39:43,079 -Up, up, up. -Fight it, fight it, fight it. 680 00:39:43,114 --> 00:39:44,180 [crowd cheering] 681 00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:45,615 Take it, take it, take it. 682 00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:46,949 [grunting] 683 00:39:46,984 --> 00:39:48,551 -Ouch! -Close. Good try. 684 00:39:50,021 --> 00:39:53,122 [applause] 685 00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:55,825 All right. Good job on the squats, everyone. That's a great lift. 686 00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:56,926 That was awesome. 687 00:39:56,961 --> 00:39:58,761 [metal clunk] 688 00:39:58,796 --> 00:39:59,729 Thanks. 689 00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:03,099 I have never seen a transwoman nearly 690 00:40:03,134 --> 00:40:04,867 as built as you and I think it's incredible. 691 00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:07,003 Like I was mesmerized by you. 692 00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:08,805 Oh, thank you, that's very flattering. 693 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,606 Are you going to Transformers tomorrow? 694 00:40:10,641 --> 00:40:12,442 I didn't know there was one. See, I didn't know 695 00:40:12,477 --> 00:40:14,544 about like all that stuff, and... 696 00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:17,980 If you don't mind, how long have you started transitioning? 697 00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:19,516 That's a tough question. 698 00:40:20,852 --> 00:40:24,086 I've started this transition like eight times the last 10 years, 699 00:40:24,121 --> 00:40:26,456 but what it is, there's parts about my male personality, 700 00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:28,825 my male side that I'm not sure I want to completely give up. 701 00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:31,461 There's definitely aspects of that personality. 702 00:40:31,496 --> 00:40:35,531 I actually felt like I lost some of that and 703 00:40:35,566 --> 00:40:37,700 I've done a lot of soul searching since my divorce. 704 00:40:37,735 --> 00:40:39,802 I've tried to recover some of that, and I do feel that 705 00:40:39,837 --> 00:40:41,904 you can because I feel like I have come 706 00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:44,474 so far back to where... 707 00:40:44,509 --> 00:40:49,512 It's almost like I took who I used to be and who I kept trying to become. 708 00:40:49,547 --> 00:40:51,548 It's a lot of work and a l... 709 00:40:53,251 --> 00:40:55,118 -Phew! Most of the time, you know? -Yeah. Sure. 710 00:40:57,822 --> 00:40:58,922 [siren] 711 00:41:00,525 --> 00:41:01,724 [Paulo] You're a transwoman? 712 00:41:04,061 --> 00:41:05,995 -[Janae] Is this your first parade? -[Paulo] Yes. 713 00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:07,263 -[Janae] Mine too, actually. -[Paulo] Is it? 714 00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:09,031 -[Janae] Yes. -[Paulo] Alright. 715 00:41:09,066 --> 00:41:10,066 So, we're both first-timers. 716 00:41:10,101 --> 00:41:11,200 [Paulo] Yes. 717 00:41:11,235 --> 00:41:13,135 We going in San Diego last week, 718 00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:15,171 they stopped the whole intersection. 719 00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:17,540 Oh, my gosh, how many people were in that? 720 00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:19,242 -It's about 300. -Wow. 721 00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:21,210 It's a dub thing that we did. 722 00:41:21,245 --> 00:41:23,179 [Janae] Any excuse to go to San Diego, you know. 723 00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:24,947 [Paulo] You always got a place now. 724 00:41:24,982 --> 00:41:26,015 I definitely might take you up on that. 725 00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:27,116 Seriously. 726 00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:30,987 And the same thing, if you're ever like seriously, well, I don't know 727 00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:32,154 why you would want to come to Michigan, but 728 00:41:32,189 --> 00:41:33,156 if you ever do... 729 00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:38,127 [Janae] Yes, here we go. Oh, look, jeez. 730 00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:43,032 For all your sins... [continues with hate talk] 731 00:41:43,067 --> 00:41:45,668 And nothing will save you! 732 00:41:45,703 --> 00:41:48,705 Oh, you have corrupted your souls! 733 00:41:51,008 --> 00:41:52,609 [crowd shouting] 734 00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:02,618 Hypocrite! 735 00:42:02,653 --> 00:42:07,657 [shouting anti transgender slogans] 736 00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:14,297 [Janae] Sad. 737 00:42:32,917 --> 00:42:34,284 [woman] Ready to pump some kilos. 738 00:42:35,252 --> 00:42:36,185 Come on, Jessica. 739 00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:40,223 [crowd cheering] 740 00:42:44,195 --> 00:42:47,096 [woman] Yes, beautiful. 741 00:42:47,131 --> 00:42:48,698 This is good. 742 00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:49,666 [crowd cheering] 743 00:42:50,935 --> 00:42:52,702 -Good job then, guys. -It's a nice pull. 744 00:42:52,737 --> 00:42:54,370 [announcer] Fantastic. 745 00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:56,772 -Any big names competing today or...? -Not today. 746 00:42:56,807 --> 00:42:58,074 -No, like you have a local meet? -Yes. 747 00:42:58,109 --> 00:42:59,943 Yeah, it's like I figured. 748 00:43:03,948 --> 00:43:06,315 -A huge fan, by the way, man. -Oh, thanks, man. Appreciate it. 749 00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:08,351 Awesome. You look awesome. 750 00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:10,620 Thanks, man. I appreciate it. 751 00:43:10,655 --> 00:43:12,254 [man] Unbelievable what you're doing. 752 00:43:12,289 --> 00:43:14,190 Do you still compete, though? 753 00:43:14,225 --> 00:43:16,659 No, I mean, I'm still training and everything, like... 754 00:43:16,694 --> 00:43:19,729 I tried walking away from it, realized this is too much of who I am. 755 00:43:19,764 --> 00:43:23,833 -No, I can't do it, man, never. -Will you compete as a woman? 756 00:43:23,868 --> 00:43:27,670 Ah, you know, it's a big controversy right now, and uhm... 757 00:43:27,705 --> 00:43:31,007 Especially for a guy like you, a guy I look up to. 758 00:43:31,042 --> 00:43:33,943 You were the guy that I was like fucking mad rock and stuff. 759 00:43:33,978 --> 00:43:35,978 I hate to ask. Can I take a picture with you? 760 00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:37,013 No, of course. 761 00:43:37,048 --> 00:43:38,314 I never ever do this. 762 00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:40,183 No, no, I'm totally cool. 763 00:43:43,387 --> 00:43:44,621 [crowd cheering] 764 00:43:45,322 --> 00:43:46,956 Thank again, man. Nice meeting you. 765 00:43:46,991 --> 00:43:48,224 -Absolutely. -Thanks. 766 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,766 [pensive music] 767 00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:24,060 [Janae] Being always, you know, drawn to the strength world and muscle and all that, 768 00:44:24,095 --> 00:44:28,031 we're very conscious of your body and how people perceive you. 769 00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:36,439 Most of us are very insecure about how we look. 770 00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:44,714 Girls that, you know, by most standards, would be considered the 771 00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:48,050 most fit and most attractive among all the women in the world 772 00:44:48,085 --> 00:44:51,353 you know, have very poor self-esteem and aren't happy with 773 00:44:51,388 --> 00:44:54,123 their bodies at all, and the same thing with the men. 774 00:44:56,761 --> 00:44:58,695 [gentle music] 775 00:45:13,043 --> 00:45:16,045 This is only five pounds more than you did. You did the last one easy. 776 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,880 I'm telling you, you got to get psyched up. 777 00:45:17,915 --> 00:45:19,782 Come on here, close your eyes. 778 00:45:19,817 --> 00:45:21,083 Ready? Come on. 779 00:45:21,118 --> 00:45:24,253 Ready? Come on, come on. [laughter] 780 00:45:24,288 --> 00:45:26,856 -That is slightly more. -Yes, it does. 781 00:45:26,891 --> 00:45:28,524 Come on, get angry. Come on. 782 00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:32,394 Pretend Garret just turned off your dark soul. 783 00:45:32,429 --> 00:45:35,998 [laugh] Down up, let's go. 784 00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:37,834 Go. Get it. Oh... 785 00:45:38,536 --> 00:45:41,137 That's close. I almost got it that time. 786 00:45:41,172 --> 00:45:42,972 Totally, you should have went for the slab. 787 00:45:43,007 --> 00:45:44,907 You would have got it with the slab. 788 00:45:44,942 --> 00:45:46,976 -Garret, do you want to squat me on this one? -Yes. 789 00:45:51,048 --> 00:45:52,081 Motherfucker. 790 00:45:52,116 --> 00:45:53,082 [shouting] 791 00:45:58,422 --> 00:46:00,056 [exhales heavily} 792 00:46:04,128 --> 00:46:05,528 [panting] 793 00:46:05,563 --> 00:46:09,365 One... two... three. 794 00:46:17,341 --> 00:46:19,441 -Heck, I might have done more than that. -Yeah, it was easy. 795 00:46:19,476 --> 00:46:20,777 Damn! 796 00:46:21,913 --> 00:46:24,847 That makes you want to gain more weight [chuckles]. 797 00:46:24,882 --> 00:46:27,483 -I'm taking the other one. -It's hard because I'm training with the guys, 798 00:46:27,518 --> 00:46:30,319 then trying to do a girl thing, but... 799 00:46:30,354 --> 00:46:32,087 There's no other women in the world walking around 800 00:46:32,122 --> 00:46:35,391 with 240 pounds of muscle, I mean, 245 or whatever. 801 00:46:35,426 --> 00:46:38,093 And I get that, but... 802 00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:41,363 At least for now, I can cope with being 803 00:46:41,398 --> 00:46:45,100 a big muscular woman a lot better than I can cope with 804 00:46:45,135 --> 00:46:46,902 being a small weak guy. 805 00:46:46,937 --> 00:46:49,605 If I walk into, you know, a place of business 806 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,975 as a 250-pound woman, yeah, everyone is gonna look. 807 00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:56,111 People are gonna treat me awkward. It's gonna make situations awkward. 808 00:46:56,146 --> 00:46:57,913 I'm not gonna get treated as well, 809 00:46:57,948 --> 00:47:00,216 but that's part of the sacrifice, 810 00:47:00,251 --> 00:47:03,586 part of the things I have to accept to be myself. 811 00:47:10,060 --> 00:47:12,194 -[Janae] All right, ready. -[boy] You big man. 812 00:47:12,229 --> 00:47:13,462 [Janae] Let's go for break. 813 00:47:17,968 --> 00:47:20,469 -[Garret] Maxx, let me go, I haven't gone yet. -Woo-hoo. 814 00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:22,271 [Maxx] Isn't it fun? 815 00:47:22,306 --> 00:47:24,173 [Dad] Every time we canoe, he's like this. 816 00:47:24,208 --> 00:47:25,408 He likes to play. 817 00:47:26,977 --> 00:47:28,611 [shouting and laughing] 818 00:47:31,215 --> 00:47:32,481 I wasn't ready to go. 819 00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:42,024 He's never, you know... He's always been in any kind of sport, 820 00:47:42,059 --> 00:47:47,229 always playing with the big boys, you know, play ball. 821 00:47:47,264 --> 00:47:49,431 You know, everything they've done when they were kids, 822 00:47:49,466 --> 00:47:51,233 everything I've ever done with them, you know, 823 00:47:51,268 --> 00:47:53,269 it's always been the macho shit, you know. 824 00:47:55,406 --> 00:47:56,973 It's a total shock to me. 825 00:47:57,942 --> 00:48:00,209 I still don't believe it. 826 00:48:00,244 --> 00:48:03,212 I don't really agree with it, but... 827 00:48:03,247 --> 00:48:05,281 It's what he wants to do, I can't talk him out of it. 828 00:48:07,418 --> 00:48:12,254 That's his decision, well, not much I can do about it. 829 00:48:12,289 --> 00:48:15,224 I don't, like I said, I don't think it's right. 830 00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:20,630 He's not gonna listen to me. 831 00:48:25,169 --> 00:48:28,037 [playing "You All Loved Him Once" by Conor Oberst] 832 00:48:37,314 --> 00:48:43,719 ♪ You all loved him once and not without cause ♪ 833 00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:50,025 ♪ He fetch you through the winter, he led you through the fog ♪ 834 00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:55,564 ♪ You hid behind his body to be sheltered from the mob ♪ 835 00:48:57,401 --> 00:49:03,706 ♪ You all loved him once and not without cause ♪ 836 00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:11,147 ♪ You all loved him once when his glory was unmatched ♪ 837 00:49:12,216 --> 00:49:18,354 ♪ You signal when to celebrate was the bugle of his laugh, ♪ 838 00:49:18,389 --> 00:49:24,360 ♪ Oh, when it came time to stand with him You scattered with the rats ♪ 839 00:49:26,263 --> 00:49:32,535 ♪ You all loved him once that time has passed ♪ 840 00:49:41,178 --> 00:49:43,512 [laughing and shouting] 841 00:49:45,682 --> 00:49:52,221 ♪ You all loved him once, not without cause ♪ 842 00:49:52,256 --> 00:49:58,127 ♪ You all loved him once, now he is gone ♪ 843 00:50:09,139 --> 00:50:11,273 -[Doctor] Hi. -[Janae] Hey, how are you? 844 00:50:11,308 --> 00:50:13,108 -Good, how are you? -Good, good. 845 00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:15,611 -Alright. -I just want to get a little more. 846 00:50:15,646 --> 00:50:18,313 -OK. -It went down but from going too long, 847 00:50:18,348 --> 00:50:22,418 like, when it fully came back, we're definitely gonna need more to get it back down. 848 00:50:22,453 --> 00:50:24,820 -OK, well, it looks good, but I see what you're saying. -It's nice and balanced. 849 00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:27,222 It's nice and even, but there is just still, 850 00:50:27,257 --> 00:50:31,160 like if I clench, there's still... Still a lot of muscle there. 851 00:50:31,195 --> 00:50:32,761 Alright, well, let's do that. 852 00:50:32,796 --> 00:50:33,763 Alright, awesome. 853 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,533 Do it again. 854 00:50:37,568 --> 00:50:38,667 [instrumental music] 855 00:50:59,189 --> 00:51:00,623 [metal clashing] 856 00:51:06,830 --> 00:51:09,164 Come on, let's go. Finish it. 857 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:10,266 [heavy breathing] 858 00:51:16,607 --> 00:51:17,639 Come on, lightweight. 859 00:51:17,674 --> 00:51:18,641 [heavy breathing] 860 00:51:21,745 --> 00:51:22,711 [grunting and sighing] 861 00:51:28,285 --> 00:51:30,285 One extra set and I'm already sweating. 862 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,355 That seemed way too hard for you, so I'm gonna go 90s and down. 863 00:51:34,625 --> 00:51:39,495 Right now, I walk into a gym as Kroc and everyone wants to be my friend, 864 00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:42,464 you know, and then I walk around like this and it's stares, and... 865 00:51:42,499 --> 00:51:46,268 Because as Kroc, the stares were a positive to you. 866 00:51:46,303 --> 00:51:49,404 -Yeah, it's like... -It's more... now you're more worried 867 00:51:49,439 --> 00:51:53,475 about passing as just a woman necessarily. 868 00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:56,345 But, you know, to be honest, you probably make other 869 00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:59,815 people feel inferior, not in any other 870 00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:01,917 aspect except for the actual size and 871 00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:04,586 strength, regardless of you being a woman. 872 00:52:04,621 --> 00:52:07,156 Yeah, I mean, that could be true too. I'm sure there's guys, you know, 873 00:52:07,191 --> 00:52:10,359 Guys ted to everybody sizes themselves up against other people. 874 00:52:10,394 --> 00:52:12,594 It's really hard to size themselves up against a woman. 875 00:52:12,629 --> 00:52:14,263 [laughter] 876 00:52:21,405 --> 00:52:23,438 Here's the thing, the day I can really 877 00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:26,208 look in the mirror and all I see is Janae 878 00:52:26,243 --> 00:52:28,277 and there is nothing else, is probably going 879 00:52:28,312 --> 00:52:29,578 to be the most amazing day of my life. 880 00:52:29,613 --> 00:52:32,948 I know that, but it's just... 881 00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:35,551 I want my boys to be able to be proud of me. 882 00:52:35,586 --> 00:52:38,487 And I might get choked up if I start talking about this. 883 00:52:40,457 --> 00:52:43,825 The boys are your... I don't want to call it an excuse because 884 00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:46,461 it's not an excuse, it's not fair to just calling it an excuse 885 00:52:46,496 --> 00:52:48,664 because that's something that you're really going to have to deal with 886 00:52:48,699 --> 00:52:50,265 and I understand the worry for that, 887 00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:53,669 but it is slowing you down and so... 888 00:52:53,704 --> 00:52:56,471 Let's say, you wait five years, and then five years 889 00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:59,441 comes running out, "Oh, well, you know, this just isn't 890 00:52:59,476 --> 00:53:01,944 the right time," push it back, and before you know it, 891 00:53:01,979 --> 00:53:04,446 you're gonna be, you know, 60 years old and 892 00:53:04,481 --> 00:53:07,783 there's not... At that point, what are you gonna do? But I think if 893 00:53:07,818 --> 00:53:10,919 you can look at yourself in the mirror right now and say 894 00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:12,988 that powerlifting is the only thing that makes you special 895 00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,891 or different, there's something seriously wrong with your head. 896 00:53:17,361 --> 00:53:19,761 So, I hate that you think that way. 897 00:53:19,796 --> 00:53:21,430 And I know you think that way and that's why 898 00:53:21,465 --> 00:53:24,433 it's easy to retreat to it, because you know 899 00:53:24,468 --> 00:53:25,968 that if all else fails, you're Matt Kroc. 900 00:53:26,003 --> 00:53:26,969 Yeah. 901 00:53:29,439 --> 00:53:31,674 [emotional music] 902 00:53:55,299 --> 00:53:56,932 [heavy breathing] 903 00:54:34,371 --> 00:54:35,971 [heavy breathing} 904 00:55:04,868 --> 00:55:09,771 I mean, I think like... You know, doing the two-gender thing makes 905 00:55:09,806 --> 00:55:12,808 life really difficult bouncing back and forth. 906 00:55:12,843 --> 00:55:16,111 I mean, I know I'm not gonna have peace with this until I fully transition. 907 00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:20,082 And, you know, now, I've been living as a woman every day for a while, 908 00:55:20,117 --> 00:55:24,820 and, uhm, even being as big as I am, it just, you know, it is what it is. 909 00:55:30,927 --> 00:55:32,561 One of the big reasons for the trip is 910 00:55:32,596 --> 00:55:34,863 the consults for the facial surgery, but 911 00:55:34,898 --> 00:55:36,565 at the same time, you know, connecting with 912 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,966 a bunch of my friends that are out here. 913 00:55:39,736 --> 00:55:42,571 It's always nice to meet people and share experiences, 914 00:55:42,606 --> 00:55:45,474 especially people that, you know, have so much struggles. 915 00:55:59,189 --> 00:56:01,123 -[Janae] Hey. -[Gracie] I love you. 916 00:56:01,158 --> 00:56:02,791 [Janae] It's good to see you. 917 00:56:06,196 --> 00:56:08,530 -This is gonna be a lot of fun. -Yeah. 918 00:56:08,565 --> 00:56:09,531 Fuck. 919 00:56:09,566 --> 00:56:10,866 Let's go. Let's go. 920 00:56:11,835 --> 00:56:12,901 Fuck! 921 00:56:12,936 --> 00:56:14,403 [drumbeats] 922 00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:17,939 -Fuck! -Come on. Down up. 923 00:56:17,974 --> 00:56:19,775 -There you go. -Down up. Big air. 924 00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:22,411 -There you go. Come on, come on! -Tight, tight, tight. 925 00:56:24,614 --> 00:56:27,182 [trainer] Get up. Come on. Get up. Yes, there it is. 926 00:56:27,217 --> 00:56:29,618 [Janae] Nice job, and you're in. 927 00:56:32,589 --> 00:56:33,856 Come on, fucker. 928 00:56:35,459 --> 00:56:37,493 [Grace] Get that shit tight and let's go. 929 00:56:38,862 --> 00:56:40,429 Don't be a fucking bitch. 930 00:56:42,666 --> 00:56:45,467 Come on. Wake the fuck up. Let's go. 931 00:56:47,537 --> 00:56:48,937 -[Trainer] There you go. -[Gracie] Get fucking mad. 932 00:56:48,972 --> 00:56:51,707 I want to see this weight move. Let's go. 933 00:56:52,809 --> 00:56:54,877 -[Trainer] Lightweight, come on. -Stand up now, let's go. 934 00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,847 Straight pickup. All legs on that pickup. 935 00:56:58,882 --> 00:57:00,882 Good. Big air. 936 00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:03,585 -Lock in your fucking air. -Let's go. 937 00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:05,020 -Look up. Look up. -[Trainer] Come on. 938 00:57:05,055 --> 00:57:05,987 Fuck, yeah. 939 00:57:06,022 --> 00:57:07,589 Hell fucking yeah. 940 00:57:08,658 --> 00:57:10,459 -Woo-hoo! -Atta, girl. 941 00:57:10,494 --> 00:57:12,661 Fuck yeah! 942 00:57:12,696 --> 00:57:14,062 It fucking feels good, don't it? 943 00:57:15,065 --> 00:57:16,865 Yeah, first time in a while. 944 00:57:22,873 --> 00:57:25,574 [Janae] Hey, good to see you. Glad you made it. 945 00:57:25,609 --> 00:57:29,578 There was the rain. Out of all the times of the year you come, it always has to rain. 946 00:57:29,613 --> 00:57:32,147 -I know, what's up with that? -Hey, welcome. Nice to meet you. 947 00:57:32,182 --> 00:57:34,749 -Nice to meet you too. -Oh, you guys haven't actually met before, have you? 948 00:57:34,784 --> 00:57:35,851 -No. -No. 949 00:57:35,886 --> 00:57:37,752 Alright, awesome, awesome. 950 00:57:37,787 --> 00:57:40,055 Nice even grip, butt down, head up. 951 00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:41,223 There you go. Now, explode up. 952 00:57:42,592 --> 00:57:44,126 Good. Actually, let's do another one. 953 00:57:46,229 --> 00:57:47,496 Slack out, explode up. 954 00:57:47,531 --> 00:57:48,897 Perfect, good. 955 00:57:48,932 --> 00:57:49,998 One more. 956 00:57:51,935 --> 00:57:54,569 Now, head up, explode. 957 00:57:54,604 --> 00:57:55,537 Good job. 958 00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,041 Look at that, tripled it. No problem. 959 00:58:05,649 --> 00:58:09,017 A lot of the fears I had that were holding me back from transition 960 00:58:09,052 --> 00:58:12,621 weren't legitimate fears, and I've come to realize that. 961 00:58:12,656 --> 00:58:14,923 When I do, it's like when I was doing it, 962 00:58:14,958 --> 00:58:20,128 I was... I was scared that I was always gonna lose Paula. 963 00:58:20,163 --> 00:58:21,897 -Right. -So, you know, like... 964 00:58:21,932 --> 00:58:23,632 That was a big part of me. 965 00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:25,700 Yeah, that identity, that part of you. 966 00:58:25,735 --> 00:58:27,302 Do you feel like you're gonna forget that? 967 00:58:27,337 --> 00:58:29,938 That's what I was afraid of, like.. 968 00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:32,240 and not so much, you know, quote-unquote, mad, but... 969 00:58:32,275 --> 00:58:37,145 Like, the powerlifter, the person that I built so much around, 970 00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:38,813 and the things I enjoy, the things I did, 971 00:58:38,848 --> 00:58:40,549 and the things I was successful with, 972 00:58:40,584 --> 00:58:42,617 I was afraid of losing that. But like today, 973 00:58:42,652 --> 00:58:44,886 like training, you know, with you and Gracie, 974 00:58:44,921 --> 00:58:46,755 I realize like, "No, I'm still gonna 975 00:58:46,790 --> 00:58:48,089 do all that stuff and that's still gonna be 976 00:58:48,124 --> 00:58:49,758 a big part of who I am." 977 00:58:49,793 --> 00:58:51,126 Uhm, you know, It might change somewhat. 978 00:58:55,632 --> 00:58:58,133 [Janae] I'm at the point right now like I feel like 979 00:58:58,168 --> 00:59:01,069 I'm getting like that in-between stage, you know. 980 00:59:01,104 --> 00:59:02,871 You feel like me when I shave my face, I'm like, 981 00:59:02,906 --> 00:59:06,241 "Oh, God, I can still see female parts of you." 982 00:59:06,276 --> 00:59:08,910 That's why I don't like shaving my face because like even 983 00:59:08,945 --> 00:59:13,315 when I go to bed, I know, I see my scars and when I take a shower or... 984 00:59:13,350 --> 00:59:15,917 You know, even to the point like I still shave my body, 985 00:59:15,952 --> 00:59:20,121 like that brings back memories of being a female. 986 00:59:20,156 --> 00:59:25,193 Then I think, you know, I don't have lower surgeries, so I do get reminded, unfortunately. 987 00:59:25,228 --> 00:59:28,163 Yeah, I do the whole talk and look in the mirror like, 988 00:59:28,198 --> 00:59:30,065 "What's she gonna look like?" [laughs] 989 00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:32,033 All the time, man. When I take a dildo and I'm like, 990 00:59:32,068 --> 00:59:34,069 "I wish I had this size." 991 00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:36,771 Or you know, if I did have an erect dick, 992 00:59:36,806 --> 00:59:39,307 is this what it would look like?" [laughs] 993 00:59:39,342 --> 00:59:41,676 I get it, I get you. 994 00:59:41,711 --> 00:59:43,645 [calm music] 995 00:59:53,890 --> 00:59:55,223 -[Dr. Lee] Pleasure meeting you. -[Janae] Nice to meet you. 996 00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:56,925 [Dr. Lee] How are you doing today? 997 00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,159 [Janae] I'm doing very well. How about you? 998 00:59:58,194 --> 00:59:59,795 [Dr. Lee] Very good, thank you. 999 01:00:00,797 --> 01:00:03,198 -So, last name is Kroczaleski. -Yes. 1000 01:00:04,267 --> 01:00:06,101 May I refer to you as Janae. 1001 01:00:06,136 --> 01:00:07,802 Yes, it's my legal name. 1002 01:00:07,837 --> 01:00:10,672 Janae, 43 years old, pharmacist. 1003 01:00:10,707 --> 01:00:12,173 -Mhm. -Excellent. 1004 01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:15,110 You've had a lot of repair work in your 1005 01:00:15,145 --> 01:00:16,878 arms and tendons and... 1006 01:00:16,913 --> 01:00:18,680 From competing, yes. 1007 01:00:18,715 --> 01:00:20,348 Are you open to suggestions? 1008 01:00:20,383 --> 01:00:24,786 Yes, open to anything you think would be beneficial. 1009 01:00:24,821 --> 01:00:29,958 In general, you want the outer one-third of the brow to be at the peak, 1010 01:00:29,993 --> 01:00:31,359 -so it's right here. -OK, got you. 1011 01:00:31,394 --> 01:00:33,228 Just a little bit. 1012 01:00:33,263 --> 01:00:35,830 We don't want your brows up here, okay? 1013 01:00:35,865 --> 01:00:37,432 Right, look surprised all the time. 1014 01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:40,369 No surprise look, OK, I don't do that. 1015 01:00:41,271 --> 01:00:45,407 So, we will reduce this, bring the lip up a little bit. 1016 01:00:45,442 --> 01:00:48,076 Give it a little bit more fullness in 1017 01:00:48,111 --> 01:00:51,346 a forward manner, and then do the genioplasty 1018 01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:57,152 jaw reduction, and finally a neck lift, OK? 1019 01:00:57,187 --> 01:00:59,387 -So, would this make you happy if we do this? -Yes. 1020 01:00:59,422 --> 01:01:00,922 -That would make me very happy. -OK. 1021 01:01:09,232 --> 01:01:10,932 -Hey. -What's going on? 1022 01:01:10,967 --> 01:01:12,901 -Good to see you. -Yes, good to have you back. 1023 01:01:12,936 --> 01:01:15,403 -Hug, handshake, what we got going on here. -Both. 1024 01:01:15,438 --> 01:01:16,337 Looking good. 1025 01:01:16,372 --> 01:01:17,372 Trying, trying. 1026 01:01:17,407 --> 01:01:18,940 Lots of work to do but... 1027 01:01:18,975 --> 01:01:20,241 Getting there. 1028 01:01:20,276 --> 01:01:21,810 Still got a lot of muscle on you. 1029 01:01:21,845 --> 01:01:23,178 Looking a little bit different now. 1030 01:01:23,213 --> 01:01:26,214 It's so weird to see facial hair, ugh. 1031 01:01:26,249 --> 01:01:27,983 Like, yeah, it's uncomfortable. I wanted to... 1032 01:01:29,252 --> 01:01:32,487 My mother in law, she's like, "This is my favorite one." 1033 01:01:32,522 --> 01:01:37,158 And then I had you in the gym last year 1034 01:01:37,193 --> 01:01:39,027 and she's like... 1035 01:01:39,062 --> 01:01:40,929 "Is that the same guy that I said is 1036 01:01:40,964 --> 01:01:42,997 my favorite one?" I said "Yeah." 1037 01:01:43,032 --> 01:01:47,035 She's like, "Damn," so she say, "We lost a good one," she said. 1038 01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:48,737 -I appreciate that, you can tell her. -We lost a good one. 1039 01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:52,140 Yeah, so I'm still in that process. 1040 01:01:52,175 --> 01:01:54,476 You take like an estrogen supplement? 1041 01:01:54,511 --> 01:01:56,712 Yes, estrogen basically. Estradiol. 1042 01:01:58,114 --> 01:02:01,082 Are you still doing performance-enhancing drugs as well? 1043 01:02:01,117 --> 01:02:05,520 No, like I stopped all the testosterone and all that stuff. And then... 1044 01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:07,789 Because with steroid you fight each other. 1045 01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:09,991 No, I'll never take testosterone again ever. 1046 01:02:11,261 --> 01:02:15,063 And then the last time you were here too when I picked you up, 1047 01:02:15,098 --> 01:02:18,967 I think I drove you to your hotel as Matt. 1048 01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:21,136 Is Matt still around? 1049 01:02:22,505 --> 01:02:26,074 No, Matt has seen his last days, you know. 1050 01:02:30,847 --> 01:02:34,215 [Janae] Hey, Garrett, can you bring me my purse, please? 1051 01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:35,150 [Garrett] Yes. 1052 01:02:35,185 --> 01:02:36,318 Thanks, man. 1053 01:02:41,124 --> 01:02:42,423 -Thank you. -What's up? 1054 01:02:42,458 --> 01:02:44,126 I left my one eyeliner in there. 1055 01:02:47,197 --> 01:02:49,230 What actually are you gonna do with your face? I don't know, really. 1056 01:02:49,265 --> 01:02:51,065 You didn't tell us much about it. 1057 01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:52,066 It's gonna be some nose or something? 1058 01:02:52,101 --> 01:02:53,067 I don't really know. 1059 01:02:53,102 --> 01:02:54,536 No, like everything. 1060 01:02:54,571 --> 01:02:57,071 Like what? I don't get it exactly. 1061 01:02:57,106 --> 01:03:00,208 Okay, so the big things like my jaw and forehead need to be done. 1062 01:03:00,243 --> 01:03:02,410 -And what they do-- -What are they gonna do to it? 1063 01:03:02,445 --> 01:03:05,914 OK, so, like... With males, like you know, you have brow bossing 1064 01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:08,283 in the ridge and the forehead tends to slant 1065 01:03:08,318 --> 01:03:13,021 backwards and be flatter versus more convex and more vertical. 1066 01:03:13,056 --> 01:03:14,989 And so basically, what they're gonna do is 1067 01:03:15,024 --> 01:03:16,925 they're gonna smooth-- I don't have a lot of brow-bossing, 1068 01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,459 but they're going to smooth out this part. 1069 01:03:18,494 --> 01:03:19,994 He's gonna cut a big chunk out 1070 01:03:20,029 --> 01:03:21,262 of the center of my forehead, 1071 01:03:21,297 --> 01:03:23,198 reshape it, and put it back in, 1072 01:03:23,233 --> 01:03:25,333 and then my jaw actually. 1073 01:03:25,368 --> 01:03:27,368 What's wrong with your jaw? You just don't like it? 1074 01:03:27,403 --> 01:03:29,337 It's too square, too wide, too... 1075 01:03:29,372 --> 01:03:32,574 -It extends too far as well. -I have a square jaw actually. 1076 01:03:32,609 --> 01:03:36,511 For guys, that's a good thing, you know, but, uh, typically. 1077 01:03:36,546 --> 01:03:40,381 Yeah, I just feel like this one just really, it's kinda, it says me, you know. 1078 01:03:40,416 --> 01:03:44,419 Fits my personality, the lifter, you know, the lifter chick. 1079 01:03:44,454 --> 01:03:47,288 -Athletic. -Yeah, it's kind of badass. You know. 1080 01:03:47,323 --> 01:03:48,890 [laughing] 1081 01:03:52,528 --> 01:03:54,529 -Are you guys ready to go? -I'm ready. 1082 01:03:54,564 --> 01:03:56,164 I'll put on my little sweatshirt. 1083 01:03:57,066 --> 01:03:58,333 [calm music] 1084 01:04:04,073 --> 01:04:06,408 [Garrett] Dude, one of us is definitely gonna buy that. 1085 01:04:07,343 --> 01:04:08,643 [Logan] Like Maxx. 1086 01:04:08,678 --> 01:04:10,311 [Garrett] It's a little frozen. 1087 01:04:10,346 --> 01:04:12,413 I'm gonna try to walk across. 1088 01:04:12,448 --> 01:04:14,048 [laughter] 1089 01:04:14,083 --> 01:04:16,384 Oh, double headshots. 1090 01:04:16,419 --> 01:04:18,286 [Janae] Logan, frisbee. 1091 01:04:18,321 --> 01:04:20,388 See, right here, you can try to get across. 1092 01:04:20,423 --> 01:04:22,257 Maxx, go all the way up there. 1093 01:04:22,292 --> 01:04:24,226 I bet you it's solid, Maxx, try it. 1094 01:04:26,029 --> 01:04:28,296 [Janae] Most moms would not let you play on the ice 1095 01:04:28,331 --> 01:04:30,498 and encourage you to jump that way [laughs]. 1096 01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:33,935 Hey! 1097 01:04:33,970 --> 01:04:35,436 I have a feeling this is gonna break 1098 01:04:35,471 --> 01:04:37,338 right here. 1099 01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:38,907 Be ready to just stand on top. 1100 01:04:38,942 --> 01:04:40,208 [Garret] I guess I'll just-- Oh, Jeez! 1101 01:04:40,243 --> 01:04:42,543 [laughing and shouting] 1102 01:04:42,578 --> 01:04:45,213 [laughs] Garret fell. 1103 01:04:46,249 --> 01:04:47,515 I got it for you, mom. 1104 01:04:49,018 --> 01:04:51,319 -[Janae] Test it, Maxx. Test it a little. -[Maxx] I'm not gonna buy it. 1105 01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:53,521 I'm totally with you. 1106 01:04:53,556 --> 01:04:55,390 -There he goes. -No. 1107 01:04:55,425 --> 01:04:56,124 Oh, come on. 1108 01:04:59,729 --> 01:05:01,630 Geez. No, I definitely won't. 1109 01:05:05,201 --> 01:05:07,001 Oh, close range. 1110 01:05:07,036 --> 01:05:08,036 [laughter] 1111 01:05:13,276 --> 01:05:15,310 You know, the bond I have with them is, 1112 01:05:15,345 --> 01:05:18,012 I mean, is the result of a lot of effort, a lot of time, 1113 01:05:18,047 --> 01:05:21,049 and... But it's something that was always 1114 01:05:21,084 --> 01:05:24,352 there from-- from the day they were born. 1115 01:05:29,425 --> 01:05:34,429 And, uhm, if I never transition to try to protect 1116 01:05:34,464 --> 01:05:37,298 them from it, what am I teaching them? That it's more 1117 01:05:37,333 --> 01:05:41,235 important to conform to what other people expect than to be 1118 01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:43,471 true to yourself? I think that's a horrible lesson. 1119 01:05:44,674 --> 01:05:47,575 Alright, everybody close together. Logan, your head should be over here. 1120 01:05:49,445 --> 01:05:51,980 This is gonna be a great picture. Alright, ready? 1121 01:05:52,015 --> 01:05:53,581 To try to be a positive role model 1122 01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:55,450 for them is hugely important to me. 1123 01:05:55,485 --> 01:05:57,151 It matters more than anything and 1124 01:05:57,186 --> 01:05:58,686 I just really hope I'm doing that. 1125 01:05:58,721 --> 01:06:01,957 One, two, three. 1126 01:06:20,443 --> 01:06:23,578 [Janae] I really feel like this is the best surgeon in the world for this procedure. 1127 01:06:23,613 --> 01:06:28,683 This is the first thing I'm doing that is locking me into one gender. 1128 01:06:33,222 --> 01:06:37,258 [in Korean] 1129 01:06:37,293 --> 01:06:41,162 [translator] The examination will start, so we will start the recording. 1130 01:06:41,197 --> 01:06:44,232 In normal voice, alright. 1131 01:06:44,267 --> 01:06:46,300 When the sunlight strikes raindrops in the air, 1132 01:06:46,335 --> 01:06:48,536 they act as a prism and form a rainbow. 1133 01:06:48,571 --> 01:06:51,673 The rainbow is a division of white light into many beautiful colors. 1134 01:06:52,675 --> 01:06:54,376 Now, my training voice. 1135 01:06:57,346 --> 01:07:00,648 There is, according to legend, a boiling pot of gold at one end. 1136 01:07:00,683 --> 01:07:02,817 People look, but no one ever finds it. 1137 01:07:02,852 --> 01:07:05,286 When a man looks for something beyond his reach, his friends 1138 01:07:05,321 --> 01:07:08,156 -say he's looking for the pot of gold-- -[speaking Korean] 1139 01:07:08,191 --> 01:07:10,458 Chin up. Have your chin up. 1140 01:07:10,493 --> 01:07:13,728 Keep on breathing through your mouth and say haaa. 1141 01:07:13,763 --> 01:07:15,396 Haaa. 1142 01:07:15,431 --> 01:07:16,631 OK, OK. 1143 01:07:27,176 --> 01:07:29,210 [Dr. Kim] Janae. 1144 01:07:29,245 --> 01:07:30,578 [Dr. Kim] What seems to be the problem? 1145 01:07:30,613 --> 01:07:32,747 I'm transitioning from male to female 1146 01:07:32,782 --> 01:07:37,518 and voice is one of the biggest issues for me, and yeah, so... 1147 01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:41,389 [Dr. Kim] Let me show you a surgical procedure, our surgical procedure. 1148 01:07:42,792 --> 01:07:47,862 We shorten these portions, so this is new vocal cord. 1149 01:07:47,897 --> 01:07:51,433 So we change your vocal cord more shorter, thinner and tighter. 1150 01:07:52,335 --> 01:07:55,470 Tomorrow morning we start the surgery maybe 9:00 a.m. 1151 01:07:55,505 --> 01:07:57,805 -OK. -You should be here 8:00 a.m. 1152 01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,174 8:00 a.m. okay. 1153 01:08:27,503 --> 01:08:29,537 [Janae] These are life-saving procedures 1154 01:08:29,572 --> 01:08:32,140 and that's what people don't understand. 1155 01:08:32,175 --> 01:08:34,275 This is like a huge thing for me. 1156 01:08:39,448 --> 01:08:41,749 I look forward to a point when people understand, 1157 01:08:41,784 --> 01:08:44,252 when everyone understands and the whole 1158 01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:46,387 idea that people would have to live in 1159 01:08:46,422 --> 01:08:49,624 fear the way they do now would be absurd. 1160 01:08:51,661 --> 01:08:55,897 It's just-- I don't want anyone to have to go through what I've gone 1161 01:08:55,932 --> 01:08:59,167 through and struggle with this for so many years 1162 01:08:59,202 --> 01:09:02,537 to where you get to a point where people can just be themselves, you know, 1163 01:09:02,572 --> 01:09:06,574 no matter what it is, and no one will think anything of that. 1164 01:09:06,609 --> 01:09:08,709 The things I do and the way I live my life, 1165 01:09:08,744 --> 01:09:13,347 if that stops even one kid... [cries] 1166 01:09:13,382 --> 01:09:14,883 from committing suicide or... 1167 01:09:17,954 --> 01:09:22,790 You know, one family from disowning their child, then... 1168 01:09:24,260 --> 01:09:28,796 any sacrifices I have to make are well worth it, you know. 1169 01:09:30,967 --> 01:09:33,234 [emotional music] 1170 01:09:52,688 --> 01:09:54,855 [Janae] I'm just really looking forward to 1171 01:09:54,890 --> 01:09:58,659 not having to do the back and forth and just be able to focus 1172 01:09:58,694 --> 01:10:01,495 on moving forward, and just enjoying my life 1173 01:10:01,530 --> 01:10:03,531 and being comfortable in the skin I'm in. 1174 01:10:03,566 --> 01:10:06,367 It's just something I've never known. 1175 01:10:10,906 --> 01:10:13,374 [emotional music] 1176 01:11:28,017 --> 01:11:30,518 Good morning everyone. 1177 01:11:30,553 --> 01:11:33,020 I know you guys have been waiting very patiently to 1178 01:11:33,055 --> 01:11:36,624 hear what my new voice sounds like, so here it is. 1179 01:11:36,659 --> 01:11:41,495 I've been talking for about a month now and after two months 1180 01:11:41,530 --> 01:11:44,432 of no talking which was brutal. 1181 01:11:44,467 --> 01:11:46,767 At first, it was a little hoarse and scratchy but 1182 01:11:46,802 --> 01:11:49,904 it's getting smoother and higher in pitch every day. 1183 01:11:49,939 --> 01:11:55,009 My surgeon said it will continue to increase in pitch for up to a year. 1184 01:11:55,044 --> 01:11:57,578 For where I'm at right now, I'm really happy with the 1185 01:11:57,613 --> 01:12:02,550 results and, uhm, excited about where I think it will end up at. 1186 01:12:02,585 --> 01:12:07,388 And uhm, I just wanted to say you know, thank all you guys that follow me 1187 01:12:07,423 --> 01:12:10,725 and support me, it really does mean a lot. 1188 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,596 And, uhm, I hope everyone's having a wonderful day and I'll talk to you all soon. 1189 01:12:15,631 --> 01:12:16,764 Thanks, bye. 1190 01:12:19,635 --> 01:12:21,769 [Janae over recording] Hoarse and scratchy but it's getting smoother 1191 01:12:21,804 --> 01:12:23,871 and higher in pitch every day. 1192 01:12:32,481 --> 01:12:34,148 With every surgical procedure that 1193 01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:36,617 I'm gonna need, it's gonna be about $100,000. 1194 01:12:36,652 --> 01:12:40,154 And this is money I've been saving for years, and trying to put aside, 1195 01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:44,692 and, you know, and still take care of all my other financial responsibilities. 1196 01:12:44,727 --> 01:12:47,561 I'm worried about losing my car, losing my house. 1197 01:12:47,596 --> 01:12:50,598 You know, how am I gonna take care of my boys? 1198 01:12:51,967 --> 01:12:54,001 But... 1199 01:12:56,505 --> 01:13:02,109 Yeah, you know, it's tough, and... and... 1200 01:13:02,144 --> 01:13:05,746 Then I'm also concerned that it's gonna be difficult finding another job. 1201 01:13:05,781 --> 01:13:12,019 You know, interviewing being openly transgender is really tough. 1202 01:13:12,054 --> 01:13:15,390 [piano music over waves] 1203 01:13:25,935 --> 01:13:28,068 [Janae] If I am still what everyone thought I was before, 1204 01:13:28,103 --> 01:13:31,972 if I was this 270-pound muscular white male, 1205 01:13:32,007 --> 01:13:33,741 these things would definitely not be 1206 01:13:33,776 --> 01:13:35,743 happening by any structure of the imagination. 1207 01:13:37,146 --> 01:13:39,947 [piano music] 1208 01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:52,193 [Janae] I did everything I could and put it off for as long as possible. 1209 01:13:52,228 --> 01:13:54,829 This is never anything I wanted or asked for. 1210 01:14:03,105 --> 01:14:05,573 [Janae] I've been through cancer, you know, I've been through the Marines, 1211 01:14:05,608 --> 01:14:07,575 I've grew up poor like... 1212 01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:09,643 I don't want it to sound like the worse, there's 1213 01:14:09,678 --> 01:14:11,612 people out there that have had a lot harder than me, 1214 01:14:11,647 --> 01:14:13,814 but this is way more difficult 1215 01:14:13,849 --> 01:14:16,050 than any of that stuff, way more difficult. 1216 01:14:22,892 --> 01:14:25,059 I had a good career, a beautiful wife, 1217 01:14:25,094 --> 01:14:26,961 you know, I was a champion athlete. 1218 01:14:26,996 --> 01:14:28,829 I was on the cover of magazines. 1219 01:14:28,864 --> 01:14:30,698 Yeah, I knew that there was a good chance 1220 01:14:30,733 --> 01:14:32,033 I'd be losing all that. 1221 01:14:33,336 --> 01:14:36,770 -[Surgeon] Hey. -All right, see you guys on the flip side. 1222 01:14:36,805 --> 01:14:38,105 Nighty night. 1223 01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:39,874 Here he comes. 1224 01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:47,915 [Janae] What are you gonna do? You know, you can't go on hiding who you are. 1225 01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:52,520 You know there's gonna be sacrifices, 1226 01:14:52,555 --> 01:14:55,656 but there is really not a choice. 1227 01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,961 [instrumental music] 1228 01:16:19,742 --> 01:16:22,710 [Janae] You know, for a lot of transgender people, you know, it does 1229 01:16:22,745 --> 01:16:24,879 end for the most part when they transition. 1230 01:16:26,348 --> 01:16:29,016 What people talk about like, looking back over their previous 1231 01:16:29,051 --> 01:16:31,786 life and it feels like an entirely different person. 1232 01:16:32,988 --> 01:16:35,389 Like a story they read and not something actually lived, 1233 01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:38,225 but for me, I don't think that story has an ending. 1234 01:16:42,264 --> 01:16:45,165 Make the best of a very complicated situation and 1235 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,202 be as happy as I can be, but there is no solution. 1236 01:16:48,237 --> 01:16:49,737 There's no answer. 1237 01:17:26,308 --> 01:17:28,142 [music] 109588

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