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[instrumental music]
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[Matt] How am I ever gonna find peace being comfortable in my own skin?
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[electronic music]
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The truth is, it's taking everything I've got as a man to become a woman
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because when it comes to being a man, well--
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I was one hell-of-a-guy.
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[forceful music]
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There is no weight, no weight.
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Oh, yeah! Press that!
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[shouting]
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[drumrolls]
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[exhaling sharply]
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From as far back as I can remember, I've had two desires.
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To be strong and to be a woman.
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I just never knew how I could have both.
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[screaming] Did it!
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[drumrolls]
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[engine running]
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Some of these are my dad's old
photos when he was a kid.
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And I think that's
what this one is.
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[chuckles] Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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These ones are when
I was once a little baby.
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That's the trailer I grew up in.
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My very humble beginnings.
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[chuckles]
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[guitar music]
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Growing up basically
poor white trash,
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I definitely had issues with
feeling less and wanting
to not feel the way.
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There are times where
I got bullied and I hated it.
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I hated that feeling.
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I hated that feeling
of vulnerability.
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I get him a book
by Arnold Schwarzenegger
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and he read the whole thing.
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And I told him, I says:
"Well, you do everything
that Arnold did
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and you'll be like that,
you know." Well,
he took it seriously.
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[upbeat music]
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I started high school
at 118 pounds,
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I ended up at 180 pounds
and the strongest kid around.
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The harder I pushed the weights,
the bigger and stronger I got,
the better I felt.
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This is my high school
football photo.
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On our games days,
the guys would wear
their jerseys and then
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the girls would wear their
cheerleader outfits to school.
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And me, I'd be sitting there
in class with my jersey on
and I'd be looking at them
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and wondering what it
be like to switch places
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and be in their place.
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That was something that...
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That it's never
been out of my mind
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for five minutes my entire life.
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It was something you just
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thought about all day,
every day.
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And...
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I always been there...
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And it tortured me for
a really, really long time.
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And this is my picture
with President Clinton.
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I actually have taken
in the Oval Office.
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Part of my reason for
joining the Marines was
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to challenge myself
to make my own way.
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And it was
another way to push
the feminine feelings down
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and really focus on
the masculine stuff.
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If there was any period
in my life I really
overdid the macho thing,
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that was definitely
during that Marines.
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First bodybuilder show.
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This is right after
I got out of the Marines.
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[announcer]
Grabbed this championship,
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Matt Kroczaleski.
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[audience cheering]
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[announcer] You go, Matt. You're looking good.
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Oh, yeah, nice job, Matt.
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Look at his abs. Good abs.
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[Matt] I can tell you that just
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being big and muscular means
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the vast majority of people
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aren't gonna mess with you.
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It makes the odds of running
into trouble in that way
much, much lower.
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[audience applauding]
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Right after that is
when I got real serious
about powerlifting.
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Come on, come on!
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Feeling less than everyone else,
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I had this really
deep desire to win.
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[Patty] Come on, Matt.
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[audience cheering]
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Easy.
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[applause]
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That's good.
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It's my hun.
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[cheers and applause]
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[Matt]
And as I grew, I met my wife.
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And while the marriage didn't
last, my three sons
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became the most important
thing in my life.
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[Matt] It's Christmas 2007.
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Good morning, Maxx.
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Good morning, Dad.
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-Yeah, it's a turtle.
-[Matt] Go.
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Go, go, go.
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[Matt] I loved my father,
but he simply wasn't there.
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[boy] Oh, turtle!
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-[Matt] Let me see, guys.
Do you like them?
-Yes.
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-Woo-hoo.
-I like mine a lot.
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-[Logan] Thanks, Dad.
-[Matt] You're welcome, buddy.
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[drumrolls]
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[Matt] It didn't matter if
I was lying down for bed,
I was thinking about lifting.
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Waking up first
thing in the morning,
I was thinking about it.
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You know, I'd be sitting
in pharmacy school during
lectures and, hum, you know,
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and... you know, I did alright
and everything, but I-- I would
be thinking about lifting.
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[exhaling sharply]
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[drumbeats]
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[exhaling sharply]
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[man] Yeah.
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[breathing]
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[drumbeats]
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[man] Yeah!
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[screams]
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[audience cheering]
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I was the first powerlifter
picked by a major
supplement company.
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Being big and strong,
it gave me a sense of self.
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It gave me an identity.
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I was the crazy guy,
the tough guy,
the intense guy,
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the one that
could take anything.
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My identity wasn't Matt.
It was Kroc.
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[drumroll buildup]
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By the time I was done,
I had bench pressed 738 pounds,
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squatted 1,003, deadlifted 810,
and the world record was mine.
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Compared to everyone my size,
I was the strongest man
on the planet.
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[electronic music]
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But I felt like the person
I was, was completely
constructed.
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There was a whole, whole
bunch that was missing.
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And I didn't know if
there was anything about
me that was authentic.
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[melancholic music]
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My family had known for years
that I was transgender,
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but to the outside world,
I was still Kroc.
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More than once I have gotten
dressed up and broke down crying
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when I look in the mirror
and just so unhappy with
my body and how I looked and
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my lack of ability to, you know,
look feminine in the way
that I wanted to.
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[LuiMarco] What's up, everybody? What you are looking at are
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pictures of a famous bodybuilder/powerlifter.
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His name is Matt Kroc.
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Right now that is a new Instagram.
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This time around, under the name of Janae Marie Kroc.
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As you guys can appreciate the back gains are absolutely still loyal
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in my reckoning even thoughwe cannot see it quite clearly.
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This is a front lat spread, definitely a sight to be seen,
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and the mass is still, actually, amazing.
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[melancholic music]
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[Matt] When that video went
public, I decided it was
time to stop hiding.
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If my story was gonna be told,
I wanted to be the one
who was going to tell it.
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Yes. OK, we're good
now, we're good now.
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Alright, well, we're here
today with a very special guest.
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We're here with Janae Kroc,
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and we got a lot of
interesting and awesome
things to get to today.
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I mean, I didn't want any
of this, that's what people
don't understand.
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I mean, I fought this as hard as
I could, as long as I could.
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Uhm, this isn't what I wanted.
This was never a choice.
You know, this is like...
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It's either this or be
miserable, you know, forever,
and, uhm...
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You know, at one point it drove
me to consider suicide, and
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to be honest,
this will be the biggest
challenge I've ever faced,
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way harder than
any of the injuries
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or even cancer for me.
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Uhm, this is way
more difficult.
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-When did you have cancer?
-Back in 2004.
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Testicular cancer, ironically,
and I remember thinking,
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"God, I hope it spreads
everywhere, and they have to
remove everything."
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I knew, like, being a pharmacist
and having a medical background,
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I knew that's not how
the cancer spreads.
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That's how overwhelming
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-this feeling was
to need to be female.
-That's crazy.
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You're very physical, I mean,
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you had world records
in powerlifting,
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a former marine, in general,
just a fucking badass,
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so it's not like you're saying
you're a girly girl, but--
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-Right, but yeah...
-When it comes to being a dude,
you were a tough motherfucker.
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Yeah, and thank you.
[chuckles]
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It sounds funny coming out
of me now, but,
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[girly voice] That's the nicest
thing anyone's ever said.
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Janae, don't break down.
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[Janae] The hardest thing
with my failed
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transition attempts
in the past was,
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there's only two things
really on my mind:
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Being comfortable letting go
of all that muscle
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and all that strength
because not only
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you know, did I enjoy
those things for
competition and stuff,
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but it was a safety blanket
and always has been.
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But then also, how is this
gonna affect my boys?
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They're a hundred percent
supportive. I mean, they've
been telling me for years,
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you know, "Do what you need
to do. We love you either way.
It doesn't matter."
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But they're going from having
the world champion powerlifter,
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super-dad that everyone looks up
to, everybody loves their...
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I mean, the coaches
and stuff all love me.
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Now they're gonna
have the transgender dad.
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-[Mark] That was very permanent.
-[Janae] It is.
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You know, and for them to say,
"Hey, go do your thing"
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is really cool,
but I think at the same time,
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it's good that you're
recognizing that it's
different, you know.
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[electronic music]
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[Dave] So, you said you're kind
of transitioning now,
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and you said that kind of
means losing weight?
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[Janae] So, at this point,
I am cutting weight.
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Uhm, I've restarted
female hormones.
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I'm moving forward with it.
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Is it a hundred percent?
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I've started and stopped
five times before.
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So, there's...
You know, never say never.
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[electronic music]
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[Matt] At first, you know,
the attempt to transition
was just
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dieting for a few months,
stopping lifting.
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In my most recent attempt
last year, I had dropped
my lifting weight back
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and started taking female
hormones, and before
I decided that,
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"You know what,
I can't do this."
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After that, I came back, and
I got bigger than I'd ever been.
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For me, to be the woman that
I want to be in appearance
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and physical form,
might not be possible.
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I don't think I am comfortable
as an extremely muscular woman,
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but as a guy, that's the only
way I'm comfortable.
So, what do I do?
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[tense music]
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Hey, guys.
Finally made it, huh?
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-How's your day been?
-Nice day.
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-It's good to see you, guys.
-I know, it is.
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-[Garrett] I just saw you
a couple of days ago.
-[Matt] I know. It was nice.
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Got to see your
football game, too.
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-Maxx, where's my hug, man?
-Just got my pillowcase.
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I don't know why
I always bring one.
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Why do you bring
a pillowcase with you?
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Garret, can you do it today?
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Tonight, I'm gonna go out
to a club and stay out.
You guys wanna come?
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-We can't. Logan can.
-I'll sneak you in,
get you some beers.
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[laughter]
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A pillowcase, dude,
when are you gonna get
a backpack or something?
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-I don't know.
-I know, that... [chuckles]
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[Matt]
OK, my buddy,
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we might have some
of the stuff for the Camaro.
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It was running really smooth,
but then it was bogging when
I'd open all the way up,
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especially about three,
and especially about 4,000.
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So basically,
I'm going into each one of
these little cells, and...
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-[Garrett] Usually you make
slight adjustments?
-[Matt] Yeah.
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You never want to make
big adjustments.
235
00:13:52,064 --> 00:13:53,431
That's how you blow motors up.
236
00:13:53,466 --> 00:13:55,400
Logan, do you
understand this stuff?
237
00:13:56,602 --> 00:13:59,237
Not all, not a hundred
percent of it, but yes.
238
00:13:59,272 --> 00:14:01,906
-Neither do I.
-I don't get it,
how you guys know that.
239
00:14:01,941 --> 00:14:05,509
OK, so do you... OK, what
don't you understand, Maxx?
What does the spark mean?
240
00:14:05,544 --> 00:14:09,080
-I explained to you like
the compression stroke, right?
-No, like, just everything.
241
00:14:09,115 --> 00:14:11,415
-Like how many... Everything?
-[Maxx] Everything about it.
242
00:14:11,450 --> 00:14:13,351
-[Matt] Is everybody buckled in?
-[Logan] I'm buckled.
243
00:14:13,386 --> 00:14:15,119
-[Garrett] Yeah, I am.
-[Maxx] Dad, I only get like
244
00:14:15,154 --> 00:14:17,154
one of those words
you just said.
245
00:14:17,189 --> 00:14:18,422
I was like,
"What's spark?"
246
00:14:18,457 --> 00:14:19,858
[all laughing]
247
00:14:21,127 --> 00:14:23,561
-You'll learn, Maxx,
you'll learn.
-[Maxx] Hold on to it.
248
00:14:24,630 --> 00:14:26,264
[engine starts]
249
00:14:41,414 --> 00:14:44,315
[Matt]
I'm really, really fortunate
to have three amazing boys.
250
00:14:45,584 --> 00:14:49,553
I told them about being a girl
when they were two, four,
and six.
251
00:14:49,588 --> 00:14:51,522
[water splashing]
252
00:14:51,557 --> 00:14:54,091
[Matt] I'm a very big believer
in honesty and openness,
253
00:14:54,126 --> 00:14:56,127
so I didn't feel it was
right to keep it from them.
254
00:15:00,299 --> 00:15:03,000
[Matt]
The hair says no.
The hair says no.
255
00:15:03,035 --> 00:15:05,002
[laughter]
256
00:15:05,037 --> 00:15:06,170
[Matt] Oh, no.
257
00:15:07,506 --> 00:15:09,073
Hey, that's not fair.
258
00:15:10,609 --> 00:15:11,642
Good job.
259
00:15:11,677 --> 00:15:12,911
[indistinct]
260
00:15:13,679 --> 00:15:16,714
-Pull the pants.
-O, get... Hold on.
261
00:15:16,749 --> 00:15:18,282
We got speed.
262
00:15:18,317 --> 00:15:19,517
[laughs]
263
00:15:20,553 --> 00:15:21,586
[playing]
264
00:15:22,555 --> 00:15:24,488
-Argh!
-Yeah!
265
00:15:24,523 --> 00:15:26,557
[all screaming and laughing]
266
00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:31,229
-No rematch. We're done.
-No rematch.
267
00:15:33,532 --> 00:15:35,099
Alright.
268
00:15:35,134 --> 00:15:36,634
I might try
that on and see
269
00:15:36,669 --> 00:15:38,703
how that's gonna look.
270
00:15:38,738 --> 00:15:40,705
Actually,
I might give that a try too.
271
00:15:43,776 --> 00:15:45,443
Oh... We'll see.
272
00:15:47,580 --> 00:15:51,349
Nah, it's a little bit burly.
Don't think I really like the
way it hangs on my body.
273
00:15:55,421 --> 00:15:57,322
Think I wanna go with the other
shirt, actually.
274
00:15:59,392 --> 00:16:04,362
Yes, that should work for
the white theme and...
And wear these boots with them.
275
00:16:05,498 --> 00:16:08,299
Just a little more dramatic
and the makeup and hair...
it should be fun.
276
00:16:10,403 --> 00:16:13,671
Clothes aren't designed very
well for me and especially,
being as big as I am.
277
00:16:13,706 --> 00:16:16,140
So we go through the same thing,
like when a girl starts
278
00:16:16,175 --> 00:16:18,109
playing with makeup,
when she's a teenager,
279
00:16:18,144 --> 00:16:20,511
how to best apply
your makeup and
280
00:16:20,546 --> 00:16:23,047
what clothes work with
your body and what doesn't.
281
00:16:25,051 --> 00:16:27,151
Whose water is this?
Is this you guys' water?
282
00:16:27,186 --> 00:16:31,155
Huh? Yeah, it's mine.
283
00:16:31,190 --> 00:16:33,691
[boys talking
in the background]
284
00:16:33,726 --> 00:16:35,326
Shoot, it's out.
285
00:16:41,567 --> 00:16:46,103
-[Garrett] Oh! Aaron Black.
-[Maxx] No, no. Dude,
I'm not gonna play with you.
286
00:16:46,138 --> 00:16:47,705
-[Janae] Dude, Aaron Black
is like cheating.
-[Maxx] Yes.
287
00:16:47,740 --> 00:16:50,141
He just shoots you with
the gun in broad light.
288
00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:52,676
Dude, no. Don't Aaron Black.
That's so mean.
289
00:16:52,711 --> 00:16:55,312
People can say whatever,
but the only thing that
do frustrate me is
290
00:16:55,347 --> 00:16:58,282
when they talk about like,
you know, "what a terrible
parent, how...
291
00:16:58,317 --> 00:17:01,352
You know, horrible that is.
How can you do that to your
boys" and stuff like that.
292
00:17:01,387 --> 00:17:05,256
It's like, "You know what?
Screw you guys. You have no
idea what our life is like."
293
00:17:05,291 --> 00:17:07,658
It's just that
assumption that it's...
294
00:17:07,693 --> 00:17:11,629
you know, that it's somehow
a horrible thing and somehow
it's difficult for them.
295
00:17:11,664 --> 00:17:15,699
But really, it's been a good
thing because it's
allowed them realize,
296
00:17:15,734 --> 00:17:18,636
grow up realizing that
not everybody's the same
and that's OK.
297
00:17:18,671 --> 00:17:21,105
[Garrett] And you're happier,
which is great too.
298
00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:23,541
I don't know, I just thought
you were like holding back
and stuff.
299
00:17:23,576 --> 00:17:27,411
Well, yeah, because I didn't
want you guys to have
to deal with a lot of BS.
300
00:17:27,446 --> 00:17:32,183
Who cares about what other
people say or, you know, tell
you can't do this or that.
301
00:17:32,218 --> 00:17:35,619
I think what it really all
boils down to, if you want
to do something, go and do it.
302
00:17:35,654 --> 00:17:38,289
You're the only person
holding yourself back.
303
00:17:38,324 --> 00:17:39,791
That's what you
really taught me.
304
00:17:42,161 --> 00:17:45,329
I cannot think of a single
person, I respect
more than my father.
305
00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:48,800
-Saying there's really
nobody, right?
-I really can't.
306
00:17:50,703 --> 00:17:52,470
Thanks, guys.
[laughter]
307
00:17:52,505 --> 00:17:53,704
Made me cry.
Ruin my makeup.
308
00:17:53,739 --> 00:17:54,772
[laughter]
309
00:17:55,708 --> 00:17:57,708
Good thing,
I haven't done my eyes yet.
310
00:18:00,146 --> 00:18:01,879
How long have you
been doing makeup for?
311
00:18:01,914 --> 00:18:04,381
I started really, like,
When your mom and I split.
312
00:18:04,416 --> 00:18:07,351
I had a talk with her
and, uhm, said, like,
313
00:18:07,386 --> 00:18:10,488
"Look, I have to deal with this.
I can't do this anymore."
314
00:18:10,523 --> 00:18:13,724
As far as she would come,
is that: "Just do it,
when I'm not home,
315
00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:15,860
the boys aren't home,
I don't want to see it.
I don't want to hear about it.
316
00:18:15,895 --> 00:18:18,229
I don't want to talk about it."
And I was like,
317
00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:20,297
Yeah, I don't know
if that's gonna work, but...
318
00:18:20,332 --> 00:18:24,135
So, that's basically one of
the reasons we split up.
319
00:18:27,173 --> 00:18:30,341
Pizza and makeup, huh?
Our new Friday nights?
320
00:18:37,816 --> 00:18:39,884
-Whoa, whoa, whoa.
-That's not even cool.
321
00:18:41,187 --> 00:18:43,287
Wait, Garret, can I
test out my move now?
322
00:18:50,896 --> 00:18:53,864
All right guys, don't be up
too late, alright?
323
00:18:53,899 --> 00:18:57,201
-[woman] Guys, just
the perfect timing.
-[Garrett] Are you leaving?
324
00:18:57,236 --> 00:18:59,937
U-hum, hang on one second,
I got to put my boots on first.
325
00:18:59,972 --> 00:19:01,372
-[Maxx] Mom.
-Mom?
326
00:19:01,407 --> 00:19:02,873
[Garret]
Don't drink too much.
327
00:19:02,908 --> 00:19:04,408
[Janae] Don't drink too much?
328
00:19:04,443 --> 00:19:05,376
What fun is that?
329
00:19:07,346 --> 00:19:08,579
At least it's nice out.
330
00:19:15,688 --> 00:19:19,223
[alternative R&B music]
331
00:19:30,736 --> 00:19:32,436
-I'll get your first round, OK?
-What's up, dude?
332
00:19:32,471 --> 00:19:33,604
I'll give you
your first round.
333
00:19:33,639 --> 00:19:35,973
OK, thank you. Appreciate it.
334
00:19:36,008 --> 00:19:37,708
-[man] Full-size glass.
-[Matt] Thanks.
335
00:19:37,743 --> 00:19:39,177
[male voice]
You're a rock-star.
336
00:19:40,413 --> 00:19:43,347
Like I said, that bartender
back there, he totally like...
337
00:19:44,817 --> 00:19:46,617
I'll take it, whatever.
338
00:19:46,652 --> 00:19:48,419
[alternative R&B music]
339
00:20:02,001 --> 00:20:04,635
[Matt]
Going out as a transgender
woman and not, you know,
340
00:20:04,670 --> 00:20:08,005
passing as a genetic female,
it's tough, it's hard.
341
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,575
You know, and I think, gosh,
can I really pull this off?
342
00:20:11,610 --> 00:20:13,477
You know,
is it really gonna work?
343
00:20:13,512 --> 00:20:14,879
[alternative R&B music]
344
00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:26,323
Am I gonna to have peace?
Am I gonna to feel whole?
Am I gonna to feel complete?
345
00:20:26,358 --> 00:20:30,962
Am I gonna be able to, you now,
function in society the way I
want to? Is this for real?
346
00:20:32,831 --> 00:20:34,465
[music fades]
347
00:20:40,572 --> 00:20:43,307
-[Matt] Hey. Good. How are you?
-[Sarah] How are you?
Good to see you.
348
00:20:43,342 --> 00:20:45,643
-Follow me this way.
-All right. Thanks.
349
00:20:50,015 --> 00:20:52,483
Are you guys ready
to order or you just
want to see the menu?
350
00:20:52,518 --> 00:20:54,318
-No.
-[Sarah] Did you need a minute?
351
00:20:54,353 --> 00:20:56,754
No, I'm good. I'm just
gonna do a Chef's salad.
352
00:20:56,789 --> 00:21:00,258
-Large Chef's salad.
-Uhm, how big are the smalls?
353
00:21:01,493 --> 00:21:03,027
-A small is small.
-[Sarah] You know you don't
want no small.
354
00:21:03,062 --> 00:21:04,528
-All right. Large.
-[Sarah] Do large.
355
00:21:04,563 --> 00:21:05,696
-As usual.
-[Sarah laughs]
356
00:21:05,731 --> 00:21:07,831
Great. Thank you.
357
00:21:07,866 --> 00:21:09,600
[Matt] Thanks.
358
00:21:09,635 --> 00:21:11,035
-A small? [laughs]
-Yes, right.
359
00:21:11,070 --> 00:21:12,937
When do I order
small anything, right?
360
00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:19,510
-Chef's salad.
-Thank you.
361
00:21:20,846 --> 00:21:22,980
-I've got French Fries for you.
-Thank you.
362
00:21:23,015 --> 00:21:25,049
Bacon and cheese.
363
00:21:25,084 --> 00:21:26,884
I will be right back
with your vinegar and oil.
364
00:21:26,919 --> 00:21:28,652
Alright. Awesome. Thank you.
365
00:21:28,687 --> 00:21:30,521
So, we're going
up north tomorrow,
366
00:21:30,556 --> 00:21:32,623
and my mom's meeting
Janae for the first time.
367
00:21:32,658 --> 00:21:35,592
Oh, my God.
No, but I'm saying like,
368
00:21:35,627 --> 00:21:37,828
this is your first time
meeting your mom as Janae.
369
00:21:37,863 --> 00:21:41,965
I said: "Look, mom,
I understood, like, that
you don't understand
370
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,601
and that you had a hard time
with it, I get all that."
371
00:21:44,636 --> 00:21:49,773
I said: "But what I don't get
it's been 10 years, and you
haven't even tried."
372
00:21:49,808 --> 00:21:51,442
We can't even have
a conversation about it.
373
00:21:51,477 --> 00:21:52,509
As soon as I start
talking about it,
374
00:21:52,544 --> 00:21:53,811
you change your topic."
375
00:21:53,846 --> 00:21:55,612
So, you know, she's had
376
00:21:55,647 --> 00:21:57,481
every opportunity in the world.
377
00:21:57,516 --> 00:21:59,850
So, you know,
it's her own fault.
378
00:22:01,587 --> 00:22:02,653
It's so true.
379
00:22:05,991 --> 00:22:07,024
[phone rings]
380
00:22:12,731 --> 00:22:15,532
-[Mom] Hello.
-[Matt] Hey. How's it's going?
381
00:22:15,567 --> 00:22:19,136
-[Mom] What's up?
-Oh, I just let you know,
like give you the time,
382
00:22:19,171 --> 00:22:22,406
I'll probably leave here
in about 45 minutes or so.
So probably around 11...
383
00:22:22,441 --> 00:22:25,109
-OK.
-OK. Then I'll probably
be there around 1:00.
384
00:22:25,144 --> 00:22:28,078
-It's what I'm thinking.
-Are you going to your dad?
385
00:22:28,113 --> 00:22:30,647
Yeah. I'm gonna visit
you first and go visit him.
386
00:22:30,682 --> 00:22:33,884
-Yeah.
-Oh. Fine. That'll be fine.
387
00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:36,420
Alright.
So, you're ready for this?
388
00:22:37,122 --> 00:22:38,789
I have no choice. Do I? [laughs]
389
00:22:38,824 --> 00:22:40,858
Well, I've given you 10 years.
390
00:22:40,893 --> 00:22:42,827
I'm hoping that
you're ready now.
391
00:22:43,762 --> 00:22:47,965
-I don't know. We'll see. [laughs].
-You'll be fine.
392
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,668
Yes. Sure. That's easy for you to say.
393
00:22:51,703 --> 00:22:56,640
You think it's easy for me?
Don't you think it's harder
for me than you?
394
00:22:57,576 --> 00:22:58,942
-No.
-No?
395
00:22:58,977 --> 00:23:00,644
For you it's so natural.
396
00:23:00,679 --> 00:23:01,679
Yeah.
397
00:23:08,754 --> 00:23:12,956
[sighs] As a guy, I hear
from women all the time
they love my voice.
398
00:23:12,991 --> 00:23:16,660
It's naturally deep.
As a girl, it makes me
very uncomfortable, and...
399
00:23:16,695 --> 00:23:19,597
It's like my female voice
leaves a lot to be desired.
400
00:23:21,066 --> 00:23:22,866
The vocal surgery, it had
to be something, well...
401
00:23:22,901 --> 00:23:25,035
I'm 100% ready to
give up my guy side.
402
00:23:25,070 --> 00:23:29,206
You know, it's one
of those things that
I can't do, or I won't do
403
00:23:29,241 --> 00:23:32,009
unless I was ready to
completely transition.
404
00:23:32,044 --> 00:23:35,979
I would be much more comfortable
having bottom surgery and still
living in both genders.
405
00:23:36,014 --> 00:23:39,616
The fact that whether I have
a penis or vagina isn't that
big of a deal to me.
406
00:23:39,651 --> 00:23:42,753
That really has more
to do with who I'm with.
407
00:23:42,788 --> 00:23:47,425
But the vocal surgery,
once you got a female voice,
there's no going back.
408
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,613
[Mom] He's here.
409
00:24:09,648 --> 00:24:12,450
-Hi, honey.
-Hi, nice to see you.
410
00:24:13,252 --> 00:24:15,820
-It's not a big deal, is it?
-No.
411
00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:20,858
But, uhm... I still like my man.
[laughs]
412
00:24:20,893 --> 00:24:24,795
Well, for now, they're still
both of me are still around,
413
00:24:24,830 --> 00:24:26,931
but I can't tell you that
it'll stay that way or not.
414
00:24:28,033 --> 00:24:31,535
And I guess I'm not as shocked
about you because the ones
I see on TV.
415
00:24:32,304 --> 00:24:37,107
I mean, they look like a man
trying to be a woman.
There's nothing...
416
00:24:38,076 --> 00:24:40,744
-It doesn't matter, it's--
-No, but I mean, they don't--
417
00:24:40,779 --> 00:24:42,980
[Clarence] It's not your body.
It's how you feel.
418
00:24:43,015 --> 00:24:45,716
-Would you think that wasn't
his hair? Matt's hair?
-Huh?
419
00:24:45,751 --> 00:24:47,217
-Which-- look.
-Janae's hair?
420
00:24:47,252 --> 00:24:49,152
Or her hair? Would you
think that was her hair?
421
00:24:49,187 --> 00:24:50,854
[Clarence] No.
422
00:24:50,889 --> 00:24:52,289
No. You would think it is.
423
00:24:52,324 --> 00:24:54,725
-Looks natural, right?
-Yeah.
424
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,593
[Clarence] I didn't know.
It looks natural.
425
00:24:56,628 --> 00:24:58,295
And it's not.
426
00:24:58,330 --> 00:25:01,698
When Matt first called me,
for a while, I grieved.
427
00:25:01,733 --> 00:25:04,601
I actually...
I couldn't sort my feelings.
428
00:25:04,636 --> 00:25:08,639
I thought, "Why in hell?"
I'm... But it was almost
like Matt died.
429
00:25:08,674 --> 00:25:10,774
[emotional music]
430
00:25:10,809 --> 00:25:13,677
I talked to my middle son
and he said the same thing.
431
00:25:13,712 --> 00:25:17,681
He said, "I love Matt.
I don't know this Janae.
432
00:25:17,716 --> 00:25:19,249
Matt is my buddy, my brother.
433
00:25:19,284 --> 00:25:22,185
We grew up, we did the guy
things." You know...
434
00:25:22,220 --> 00:25:27,157
And, uhm... it's hard, you
grieve, you hate it,
you hide it.
435
00:25:27,192 --> 00:25:28,959
You don't want
to talk about it.
436
00:25:31,663 --> 00:25:34,298
Living in this area,
people say, "How's Matt doing?"
437
00:25:34,333 --> 00:25:36,733
I say: "Just fine." That's all
I say. I don't talk about it.
438
00:25:36,768 --> 00:25:39,803
But as a mother, it's the
hardest thing I dealt with.
439
00:25:39,838 --> 00:25:41,204
It's like a death.
440
00:25:41,239 --> 00:25:42,839
And people will say:
"No, it's not."
441
00:25:42,874 --> 00:25:45,576
To me, it is.
I grieved, you cry, but
442
00:25:46,378 --> 00:25:48,212
it comes down to...
it's your child.
443
00:25:49,948 --> 00:25:53,717
You can love him, walk away
or... I'm not walking away.
444
00:25:53,752 --> 00:25:55,219
[emotional music]
445
00:25:58,790 --> 00:26:03,260
Having to convert back to Matt,
sometimes it's like
depressing, a little bit.
446
00:26:04,796 --> 00:26:07,364
I really don't
like my face [chuckles].
447
00:26:07,399 --> 00:26:10,234
I feel a lot better
with the makeup and wig on.
448
00:26:13,705 --> 00:26:16,006
When I'm going around as Janae,
I mean, I'm conscious
449
00:26:16,041 --> 00:26:18,609
of how I sound, but it's not
like I make an effort.
450
00:26:18,644 --> 00:26:21,244
It's not like... I mean,
a little bit with a pitch
451
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:24,982
but the way I talk and
you'll notice my manners,
I'm changed to a certain degree.
452
00:26:25,017 --> 00:26:29,786
And just the way I form my
sentences and the intonation
behind my voice.
453
00:26:29,821 --> 00:26:30,821
That just all happens.
454
00:26:43,201 --> 00:26:44,868
[phone rings]
455
00:26:44,903 --> 00:26:47,037
-[Dad] Hello?
-Hey, what's up, old man?
456
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,108
Hello, Matt. Where are you at?
457
00:26:51,143 --> 00:26:53,877
At mom's, leaving mom's
right now. I'll be there
in about 10 minutes.
458
00:26:54,913 --> 00:26:56,080
Oh, OK.
459
00:27:00,285 --> 00:27:02,185
Last time I saw mom.
When I saw you when you were
460
00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:04,755
-camping by the river
last summer. And then...
-Yeah.
461
00:27:04,790 --> 00:27:07,090
You should've come up
when the UP was up there.
462
00:27:07,125 --> 00:27:09,292
[sighs]
Yes, I just didn't have time.
463
00:27:09,327 --> 00:27:11,261
You know, when you do get busy,
you got to get stuff done,
you know.
464
00:27:11,296 --> 00:27:13,697
But...
But if you go up there again,
465
00:27:13,732 --> 00:27:15,666
if you do head up there
this summer, let me know.
I'll bring the boys.
466
00:27:16,702 --> 00:27:17,401
[coughing]
467
00:27:18,937 --> 00:27:21,104
I was glad to see Matt succeed
468
00:27:21,139 --> 00:27:24,174
at what he'd been
doing all his life.
469
00:27:24,209 --> 00:27:27,177
And, I mean,
he worked hard at it. And...
470
00:27:27,212 --> 00:27:32,983
Neither me or my wife, you know,
ever dreamed that, you know,
he'd get as far as he did.
471
00:27:35,821 --> 00:27:37,721
I'd see him stick with it.
472
00:27:37,756 --> 00:27:39,323
You know.
[chuckles]
473
00:27:40,726 --> 00:27:44,061
Yeah, well, things are going
down a different path now.
474
00:27:44,096 --> 00:27:46,229
-Well, you're 40 what now?
-Three.
475
00:27:46,264 --> 00:27:49,066
-43.
-Yeah, my competitive days
are pretty much over now.
476
00:27:49,101 --> 00:27:52,069
It's just between age
being a factor and then,
477
00:27:52,104 --> 00:27:53,970
you know, the transgender stuff.
478
00:27:54,005 --> 00:27:55,872
-Can't figure--
-That's my hope,
479
00:27:55,907 --> 00:27:58,108
you change your mind
about it before it's too late.
480
00:27:58,143 --> 00:28:00,110
You know, It's not a matter
of changing the minds, you know.
481
00:28:00,145 --> 00:28:01,478
You can't change your way.
482
00:28:01,513 --> 00:28:04,281
You'll wind up
like Bruce Jenner...
483
00:28:04,316 --> 00:28:05,683
with severe depression.
484
00:28:06,752 --> 00:28:08,151
-Don't believe everything...
-That happens a lot.
485
00:28:08,186 --> 00:28:10,220
Oh, sure it does.
It's not an easy life.
486
00:28:10,255 --> 00:28:12,889
-You know, it's changing and...
-Well, you better be sure.
487
00:28:12,924 --> 00:28:15,392
That's all I got to say
'cause you can't go back.
488
00:28:15,427 --> 00:28:19,963
And if you show up here with
your long hair and boobs,
I'm going the other way.
489
00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:21,498
-Oh, really?
-Yeah.
490
00:28:21,533 --> 00:28:23,900
Yeah? What if it does happen?
491
00:28:23,935 --> 00:28:25,436
-Better not.
-Yeah.
492
00:28:26,872 --> 00:28:32,710
You want to see me freak?
I've seen one picture,
got freaked on that.
493
00:28:34,813 --> 00:28:36,346
Whatever you
call yourself.
494
00:28:39,117 --> 00:28:40,884
[nostalgic piano music]
495
00:28:47,893 --> 00:28:49,393
[Matt] This is, uhm,
where I grew up at.
496
00:28:52,898 --> 00:28:55,065
Oh, yeah, the secret
basement back here.
497
00:28:56,268 --> 00:28:59,035
You'd flip up a door and
there was a ladder down into it
498
00:28:59,070 --> 00:29:02,439
and for a while, it was
my dad's pot-growing house.
499
00:29:06,211 --> 00:29:08,979
We weren't allowed down there.
We were told there was
dangerous chemicals.
500
00:29:09,014 --> 00:29:10,914
We just didn't know
they were THC.
501
00:29:13,985 --> 00:29:16,086
This big oak back here,
I built a tree fort in.
502
00:29:16,121 --> 00:29:18,021
Some of the boards are
still hanging in the tree.
503
00:29:23,028 --> 00:29:24,361
Down here,
there's a big sand hill.
504
00:29:24,396 --> 00:29:26,096
I used to sprint up
and down this.
505
00:29:26,131 --> 00:29:27,964
With a... I used to carry
a big log on my back,
506
00:29:27,999 --> 00:29:29,366
and I'd run up
and down this hill.
507
00:29:35,340 --> 00:29:37,908
This is where we came to fish
in the spring and in the fall
508
00:29:37,943 --> 00:29:41,578
and I learned how to swim
in the river and almost
died in the river.
509
00:29:41,613 --> 00:29:43,446
I almost drowned there
when I was eight.
510
00:29:43,481 --> 00:29:45,949
Fell into a drop-off
and with the current,
511
00:29:45,984 --> 00:29:49,386
I remember falling
through the water and
seeing the sunlight disappear.
512
00:29:49,421 --> 00:29:52,189
Seeing everything turn green
and then seeing
everything turn black.
513
00:29:59,931 --> 00:30:01,965
There are times
when I wanted to get away and
514
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,301
I wanted quiet and peace,
this is where I'd come.
515
00:30:04,336 --> 00:30:07,971
I would just sit there on the
bank and look into the water.
516
00:30:15,413 --> 00:30:18,081
Yeah, it's crazy actually,
how much this looks
exactly the same.
517
00:30:24,389 --> 00:30:26,890
These are my fishing stuff
from the spring.
518
00:30:38,103 --> 00:30:39,336
[children playing]
519
00:30:44,442 --> 00:30:47,511
-Hey!
-Hey you. Oh, my God.
520
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,146
-It's so good to see you.
-How are you?
521
00:30:50,181 --> 00:30:52,115
Oh, my God, it's so awesome
to see you guys.
522
00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:54,050
I can't believe it.
It's been a couple
of years, right?
523
00:30:54,085 --> 00:30:56,052
-Two years.
-Since Vegas, right?
524
00:30:56,087 --> 00:30:57,621
Yes, two years
since Vegas.
525
00:30:57,656 --> 00:31:00,423
Crazy. Look a little different.
526
00:31:00,458 --> 00:31:01,591
-You look good.
-I love it.
527
00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:03,293
Oh, thanks.
528
00:31:03,328 --> 00:31:05,996
I'm still fairly muscular.
Like, my God.
529
00:31:06,031 --> 00:31:09,266
-Yah, a tiny bit.
-I still see you
very feminine.
530
00:31:09,301 --> 00:31:11,468
Well, thank you.
I'm working on it, I'm trying.
531
00:31:11,503 --> 00:31:14,104
Still it's killing me,
I really want to get my waist
532
00:31:14,139 --> 00:31:15,939
really small and I'm
having a hell of a time.
533
00:31:15,974 --> 00:31:20,076
Estrogen and that goes on
so easy. It's like, argh!
534
00:31:20,111 --> 00:31:22,178
[overlapping talk]
535
00:31:22,213 --> 00:31:25,949
-Cheers. It's lovely,
lovely to see you.
-Thank you. Yes.
536
00:31:25,984 --> 00:31:29,519
I have a billion questions, but
I've none at the same time.
You know what I mean?
537
00:31:29,554 --> 00:31:34,557
I still... I still would like
to have a little facial
surgery done, but I'm not...
538
00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:37,261
Like, I'm kind of hesitant
to do it because...
539
00:31:38,229 --> 00:31:42,065
I like how I look now, uhm,
but I would still like
to look more feminine.
540
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:45,035
'Cause, like, I feel like with
makeup and stuff I look okay,
541
00:31:45,070 --> 00:31:49,472
but without any makeup
or anything, I think I still
look very masculine, so...
542
00:31:49,507 --> 00:31:52,309
Just being smaller all together
has made a difference and
543
00:31:52,344 --> 00:31:56,346
then just the estrogen and
not tons of testosterone, and...
544
00:31:56,381 --> 00:31:59,082
Do you find you need to see
someone to kind of guide you?
545
00:31:59,117 --> 00:32:00,984
Like would you see
a counselor or anybody?
546
00:32:01,019 --> 00:32:02,252
I did a lot of therapy stuff
when I was first
547
00:32:02,287 --> 00:32:03,386
dealing with everything.
548
00:32:03,421 --> 00:32:05,255
For me, it was really no...
549
00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:06,957
more helpful than just
talking to one of my friends.
550
00:32:06,992 --> 00:32:08,591
Just someone I could
bounce stuff off of.
551
00:32:08,626 --> 00:32:11,528
I don't know, like...
My sexual, I'm still...
552
00:32:11,563 --> 00:32:13,964
It's difficult because
I'm still primarily
553
00:32:13,999 --> 00:32:16,466
attracted to women,
always have been, still am.
554
00:32:16,501 --> 00:32:18,668
It's just once you get
to the bedroom then it's like,
555
00:32:18,703 --> 00:32:22,105
"Okay, how do things work
now?" That's the tricky part.
556
00:32:23,408 --> 00:32:25,742
OK, so, the two
options for tonight...
557
00:32:25,777 --> 00:32:28,578
This one actually,
for whatever reason,
558
00:32:28,613 --> 00:32:30,613
my body looks more
feminine in this one.
559
00:32:30,648 --> 00:32:32,415
It's supposed to throw
the waist shaper thing on.
560
00:32:32,450 --> 00:32:33,650
I could throw the top on
right here and then
561
00:32:33,685 --> 00:32:34,651
I'll change the pants.
562
00:32:34,686 --> 00:32:36,019
OK, sorry I got to throw
563
00:32:36,054 --> 00:32:37,153
some money at you,
one sec.
564
00:32:37,188 --> 00:32:39,089
[laughter]
565
00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,590
-I'm sorry to disappoint you.
-I don't have no $5 bills.
566
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:43,460
I'm fatter and smaller
than I used to be, so...
567
00:32:46,331 --> 00:32:48,631
Alright, the favorite shirt.
568
00:32:48,666 --> 00:32:50,500
Yeah. Here we go.
569
00:32:50,535 --> 00:32:52,035
It's been pre-selected.
570
00:32:53,438 --> 00:32:56,172
Yeah, like I said,
like I love this shirt.
I absolutely love it.
571
00:32:56,207 --> 00:32:58,708
I love the design,
I think it's really cool
and everything, but...
572
00:32:58,743 --> 00:33:02,245
-I don't think it makes you
look wider or bigger. No.
-You don't think so?
573
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:03,680
Woo-hoo!
574
00:33:03,715 --> 00:33:05,348
-Like the white?
-OK, the ass.
575
00:33:05,383 --> 00:33:07,684
It's not bad.
It's not bad at all.
576
00:33:07,719 --> 00:33:09,619
-What are you talking about?
-Seriously?
577
00:33:09,654 --> 00:33:10,720
They're shaped.
578
00:33:10,755 --> 00:33:12,422
[chuckles]
579
00:33:12,457 --> 00:33:14,658
I do have a big butt,
everybody said that.
580
00:33:19,731 --> 00:33:22,065
[Matt] Ugh, I don't know
if I'm up to 170s.
581
00:33:23,201 --> 00:33:24,667
[exhales deeply]
582
00:33:24,702 --> 00:33:27,004
Maybe drop her down to 150s.
583
00:33:28,139 --> 00:33:29,573
I'll take those for a ride.
584
00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:32,675
[drumbeats]
585
00:33:32,710 --> 00:33:33,710
Fucking 150s.
586
00:33:36,314 --> 00:33:37,781
[panting and grunting]
587
00:33:39,851 --> 00:33:41,584
Let's go.
588
00:33:41,619 --> 00:33:42,719
Come on, let's go.
589
00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:44,621
Let's go!
590
00:33:44,656 --> 00:33:45,688
Good, come on.
591
00:33:45,723 --> 00:33:46,723
Push, push!
592
00:33:48,226 --> 00:33:49,259
Nice job.
593
00:33:51,129 --> 00:33:52,662
[Shane]
Come on Drew, let's go.
594
00:33:52,697 --> 00:33:53,696
[Matt]
Easy weight for you, buddy.
595
00:33:53,731 --> 00:33:55,732
Let's go.
596
00:33:55,767 --> 00:33:58,168
Come on, Drew, let's go.
Let's go, Drew.
597
00:33:58,203 --> 00:33:59,235
-Get out to this shit.
-Come on!
598
00:33:59,270 --> 00:34:00,370
Alright, Drew, let's go.
599
00:34:00,405 --> 00:34:01,337
Come on, sit nice and tight.
600
00:34:01,372 --> 00:34:02,372
Don't be a pussy.
601
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:06,576
-Get up, up, up.
-Easy.
602
00:34:06,611 --> 00:34:07,811
Let's go.
603
00:34:11,716 --> 00:34:12,715
Fucking pussy weight.
604
00:34:12,750 --> 00:34:13,850
Let's go, bitch.
605
00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:15,218
[exhaling and shouting]
606
00:34:16,354 --> 00:34:17,587
[Drew] Let's go, man, come on.
607
00:34:19,791 --> 00:34:25,162
[Shane]
Good. Come on, Matt. Let's go,
let's go. Push! Good job.
608
00:34:26,164 --> 00:34:27,630
[metal bang]
609
00:34:27,665 --> 00:34:29,466
-[Matt] I'll be damned.
-[Shane] Good job.
610
00:34:29,501 --> 00:34:32,102
It's not bad for being
a weak little bitch.
611
00:34:33,171 --> 00:34:37,640
This shit right here is why
I can't give up my guy side.
You know, it's...
612
00:34:37,675 --> 00:34:39,810
Loving this stuff and
hanging out with these guys.
613
00:34:41,212 --> 00:34:43,680
You know, this is the kind of
shit that I still live
for too, you know.
614
00:34:43,715 --> 00:34:47,550
So, it makes it...
It makes it hard, but...
615
00:34:47,585 --> 00:34:51,754
These guys have seen me go
back and forth, probably more
times than they can count.
616
00:34:51,789 --> 00:34:54,757
I think there'll always be too
much Matt for Janae to be a...
617
00:34:54,792 --> 00:34:58,628
And being a woman.
If you want to say
a stereotype woman.
618
00:34:58,663 --> 00:35:01,498
The... the 120 pounds.
619
00:35:01,533 --> 00:35:03,299
That'll never happen.
That... That...
620
00:35:03,334 --> 00:35:05,368
-Not because, to be honest--
-He couldn't do it.
621
00:35:05,403 --> 00:35:08,238
He couldn't do it
because this guy, his fuck--
his mentality,
622
00:35:08,273 --> 00:35:10,840
he can do whatever he wants
to do, but he wouldn't be happy.
623
00:35:10,875 --> 00:35:14,777
I don't think he can do it.
I don't think you can
go to 200 again.
624
00:35:14,812 --> 00:35:18,181
-I think you're probably right.
-That's what I'm
trying to say so...
625
00:35:18,216 --> 00:35:21,451
Whether it's Janae or Matt,
fitness is number one.
626
00:35:22,387 --> 00:35:24,787
Always gonna be
number one in the family.
627
00:35:24,822 --> 00:35:29,359
But fitness, he'll never allow
himself to get that small again.
628
00:35:29,394 --> 00:35:32,695
I was like, "Fuck that.
I won't be 275 again."
629
00:35:32,730 --> 00:35:36,566
But these guys are, you know,
my very best friends and it is,
630
00:35:36,601 --> 00:35:39,469
it's like brothers. I mean,
I count on these guys
for anything, and...
631
00:35:41,439 --> 00:35:42,439
Fuck, I get choked up.
632
00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,545
I count on these guys
for anything, and...
633
00:35:53,918 --> 00:35:55,252
[Shane]
The way it should be.
634
00:35:57,789 --> 00:36:03,293
It doesn't matter, I mean,
it doesn't matter if I'm...
Even with the transition stuff.
635
00:36:03,328 --> 00:36:05,495
It's just, you know...
Yeah.
636
00:36:05,530 --> 00:36:07,664
You know, they are, they're
like brothers, really.
637
00:36:10,568 --> 00:36:11,768
[emotional music]
638
00:36:36,661 --> 00:36:38,328
[Matt] Right now, there's just this feeling
639
00:36:38,363 --> 00:36:40,764
of being pulled between two worlds and
640
00:36:41,699 --> 00:36:46,769
this, you know, complete frustration and how am I
641
00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:50,273
ever gonna find peace and balance, and...
642
00:36:50,308 --> 00:36:52,976
And at this point, I really think the honest answer is, I won't.
643
00:37:01,586 --> 00:37:02,619
[heavy breathing]
644
00:37:06,658 --> 00:37:08,692
[exhaling heavily]
645
00:37:46,798 --> 00:37:49,732
[Matt] Being told that my hair loss is beyond the point
646
00:37:49,767 --> 00:37:52,435
where I can actually grow it out, that was devastating
647
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:56,673
to hear because putting a wig on for me feels like costume,
648
00:37:56,708 --> 00:37:59,976
it feels like dress up, it feels like pretending.
649
00:38:03,581 --> 00:38:06,416
This conference sounds
like it's gonna be...
650
00:38:06,451 --> 00:38:08,518
It's a little bit of a cluster.
651
00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:10,653
Fortunately, I've been
doing this stuff for years.
652
00:38:10,688 --> 00:38:14,791
I've run meets,
spotted, loaded, judged.
653
00:38:14,826 --> 00:38:16,759
I've done pretty much
everything you can do
654
00:38:16,794 --> 00:38:18,995
with all the powerlifting
stuff for a long time.
655
00:38:20,665 --> 00:38:22,832
I don't think anybody there
really has any
experience with it.
656
00:38:22,867 --> 00:38:24,834
They didn't really know
what they're getting into.
657
00:38:24,869 --> 00:38:26,569
Fortunately, there's not
a ton of competitors,
658
00:38:26,604 --> 00:38:28,871
so we should
pull it off okay.
659
00:38:32,944 --> 00:38:37,413
This event is specifically
for transgender competitors.
660
00:38:37,448 --> 00:38:40,650
I'll be kind of, you know,
basically helping them
run the competition,
661
00:38:40,685 --> 00:38:45,555
judge, and probably be a Jill
of all trades tomorrow, so...
662
00:38:58,503 --> 00:38:59,736
[Matt]
Alright. Ready, guys?
663
00:39:01,706 --> 00:39:03,573
That crease has to break
the top of the knee
664
00:39:03,608 --> 00:39:06,376
and that constitutes being
low enough and a good lift.
665
00:39:06,411 --> 00:39:08,945
So if you come out of the hole
and maybe come up a little bit,
maybe starting
666
00:39:08,980 --> 00:39:10,847
to lose your balance,
go down a little and
start to come back up.
667
00:39:10,882 --> 00:39:12,482
I'm just gonna have
the spotters take it
668
00:39:12,517 --> 00:39:14,384
because the lifts
are already no good.
669
00:39:14,419 --> 00:39:16,553
Any questions at all from
anyone before we get started?
670
00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:19,789
Alright.
Good luck to everybody.
671
00:39:19,824 --> 00:39:21,457
Alright.
672
00:39:21,492 --> 00:39:22,425
Squat.
673
00:39:23,628 --> 00:39:25,762
Up, up, up.
Rack.
674
00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:28,164
[applause]
675
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:32,902
-[Matt] All right.
-[announcer] The next lifter is Ryan Bird, 285.
676
00:39:32,937 --> 00:39:36,038
285, that's gonna be
a 25 and a 5 on each side.
677
00:39:36,073 --> 00:39:38,408
25 and a 5.
678
00:39:38,443 --> 00:39:40,610
-Squat.
-Ease out, ease out, ease out.
679
00:39:40,645 --> 00:39:43,079
-Up, up, up.
-Fight it, fight it, fight it.
680
00:39:43,114 --> 00:39:44,180
[crowd cheering]
681
00:39:44,215 --> 00:39:45,615
Take it, take it, take it.
682
00:39:45,650 --> 00:39:46,949
[grunting]
683
00:39:46,984 --> 00:39:48,551
-Ouch!
-Close. Good try.
684
00:39:50,021 --> 00:39:53,122
[applause]
685
00:39:53,157 --> 00:39:55,825
All right. Good job
on the squats, everyone.
That's a great lift.
686
00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:56,926
That was awesome.
687
00:39:56,961 --> 00:39:58,761
[metal clunk]
688
00:39:58,796 --> 00:39:59,729
Thanks.
689
00:40:01,165 --> 00:40:03,099
I have never seen
a transwoman nearly
690
00:40:03,134 --> 00:40:04,867
as built as you and
I think it's incredible.
691
00:40:04,902 --> 00:40:07,003
Like I was mesmerized by you.
692
00:40:07,038 --> 00:40:08,805
Oh, thank you,
that's very flattering.
693
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,606
Are you going to
Transformers tomorrow?
694
00:40:10,641 --> 00:40:12,442
I didn't know there was one.
See, I didn't know
695
00:40:12,477 --> 00:40:14,544
about like all that stuff,
and...
696
00:40:14,579 --> 00:40:17,980
If you don't mind,
how long have you started
transitioning?
697
00:40:18,015 --> 00:40:19,516
That's a tough question.
698
00:40:20,852 --> 00:40:24,086
I've started this
transition like eight
times the last 10 years,
699
00:40:24,121 --> 00:40:26,456
but what it is, there's
parts about my male personality,
700
00:40:26,491 --> 00:40:28,825
my male side that I'm not sure
I want to completely give up.
701
00:40:28,860 --> 00:40:31,461
There's definitely
aspects of that personality.
702
00:40:31,496 --> 00:40:35,531
I actually felt like
I lost some of that and
703
00:40:35,566 --> 00:40:37,700
I've done a lot of soul
searching since my divorce.
704
00:40:37,735 --> 00:40:39,802
I've tried to recover some
of that, and I do feel that
705
00:40:39,837 --> 00:40:41,904
you can because
I feel like I have come
706
00:40:41,939 --> 00:40:44,474
so far back to where...
707
00:40:44,509 --> 00:40:49,512
It's almost like I took who
I used to be and who I kept
trying to become.
708
00:40:49,547 --> 00:40:51,548
It's a lot of work and a l...
709
00:40:53,251 --> 00:40:55,118
-Phew! Most of the time,
you know?
-Yeah. Sure.
710
00:40:57,822 --> 00:40:58,922
[siren]
711
00:41:00,525 --> 00:41:01,724
[Paulo]
You're a transwoman?
712
00:41:04,061 --> 00:41:05,995
-[Janae] Is this your
first parade?
-[Paulo] Yes.
713
00:41:06,030 --> 00:41:07,263
-[Janae] Mine too, actually.
-[Paulo] Is it?
714
00:41:07,298 --> 00:41:09,031
-[Janae] Yes.
-[Paulo] Alright.
715
00:41:09,066 --> 00:41:10,066
So, we're
both first-timers.
716
00:41:10,101 --> 00:41:11,200
[Paulo] Yes.
717
00:41:11,235 --> 00:41:13,135
We going in San Diego last week,
718
00:41:13,170 --> 00:41:15,171
they stopped the
whole intersection.
719
00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:17,540
Oh, my gosh, how many
people were in that?
720
00:41:17,575 --> 00:41:19,242
-It's about 300.
-Wow.
721
00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:21,210
It's a dub thing that we did.
722
00:41:21,245 --> 00:41:23,179
[Janae] Any excuse
to go to San Diego, you know.
723
00:41:23,214 --> 00:41:24,947
[Paulo]
You always got a place now.
724
00:41:24,982 --> 00:41:26,015
I definitely might
take you up on that.
725
00:41:26,050 --> 00:41:27,116
Seriously.
726
00:41:28,586 --> 00:41:30,987
And the same thing, if you're
ever like seriously,
well, I don't know
727
00:41:31,022 --> 00:41:32,154
why you would want to come
to Michigan, but
728
00:41:32,189 --> 00:41:33,156
if you ever do...
729
00:41:35,826 --> 00:41:38,127
[Janae] Yes, here we go.
Oh, look, jeez.
730
00:41:38,162 --> 00:41:43,032
For all your sins...
[continues with hate talk]
731
00:41:43,067 --> 00:41:45,668
And nothing will save you!
732
00:41:45,703 --> 00:41:48,705
Oh, you have
corrupted your souls!
733
00:41:51,008 --> 00:41:52,609
[crowd shouting]
734
00:42:01,185 --> 00:42:02,618
Hypocrite!
735
00:42:02,653 --> 00:42:07,657
[shouting
anti transgender slogans]
736
00:42:13,197 --> 00:42:14,297
[Janae] Sad.
737
00:42:32,917 --> 00:42:34,284
[woman]
Ready to pump some kilos.
738
00:42:35,252 --> 00:42:36,185
Come on, Jessica.
739
00:42:39,190 --> 00:42:40,223
[crowd cheering]
740
00:42:44,195 --> 00:42:47,096
[woman]
Yes, beautiful.
741
00:42:47,131 --> 00:42:48,698
This is good.
742
00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:49,666
[crowd cheering]
743
00:42:50,935 --> 00:42:52,702
-Good job then, guys.
-It's a nice pull.
744
00:42:52,737 --> 00:42:54,370
[announcer] Fantastic.
745
00:42:54,405 --> 00:42:56,772
-Any big names competing
today or...?
-Not today.
746
00:42:56,807 --> 00:42:58,074
-No, like you have a local meet?
-Yes.
747
00:42:58,109 --> 00:42:59,943
Yeah, it's like I figured.
748
00:43:03,948 --> 00:43:06,315
-A huge fan, by the way, man.
-Oh, thanks, man. Appreciate it.
749
00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:08,351
Awesome.
You look awesome.
750
00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:10,620
Thanks, man. I appreciate it.
751
00:43:10,655 --> 00:43:12,254
[man] Unbelievable
what you're doing.
752
00:43:12,289 --> 00:43:14,190
Do you still
compete, though?
753
00:43:14,225 --> 00:43:16,659
No, I mean, I'm still training
and everything, like...
754
00:43:16,694 --> 00:43:19,729
I tried walking away from it,
realized this is too much
of who I am.
755
00:43:19,764 --> 00:43:23,833
-No, I can't do it, man, never.
-Will you compete as a woman?
756
00:43:23,868 --> 00:43:27,670
Ah, you know, it's a big
controversy right now,
and uhm...
757
00:43:27,705 --> 00:43:31,007
Especially for a guy like you,
a guy I look up to.
758
00:43:31,042 --> 00:43:33,943
You were the guy that I was
like fucking mad rock and stuff.
759
00:43:33,978 --> 00:43:35,978
I hate to ask. Can I take
a picture with you?
760
00:43:36,013 --> 00:43:37,013
No, of course.
761
00:43:37,048 --> 00:43:38,314
I never ever do this.
762
00:43:38,349 --> 00:43:40,183
No, no, I'm totally cool.
763
00:43:43,387 --> 00:43:44,621
[crowd cheering]
764
00:43:45,322 --> 00:43:46,956
Thank again, man.
Nice meeting you.
765
00:43:46,991 --> 00:43:48,224
-Absolutely.
-Thanks.
766
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:56,766
[pensive music]
767
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:24,060
[Janae] Being always, you know, drawn to the strength world and muscle and all that,
768
00:44:24,095 --> 00:44:28,031
we're very conscious of your body and how people perceive you.
769
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:36,439
Most of us are very insecure about how we look.
770
00:44:41,512 --> 00:44:44,714
Girls that, you know, by most standards, would be considered the
771
00:44:44,749 --> 00:44:48,050
most fit and most attractiveamong all the women in the world
772
00:44:48,085 --> 00:44:51,353
you know, have very poor self-esteem and aren't happy with
773
00:44:51,388 --> 00:44:54,123
their bodies at all,and the same thing with the men.
774
00:44:56,761 --> 00:44:58,695
[gentle music]
775
00:45:13,043 --> 00:45:16,045
This is only five pounds
more than you did.
You did the last one easy.
776
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,880
I'm telling you,
you got to get psyched up.
777
00:45:17,915 --> 00:45:19,782
Come on here,
close your eyes.
778
00:45:19,817 --> 00:45:21,083
Ready? Come on.
779
00:45:21,118 --> 00:45:24,253
Ready? Come on, come on.
[laughter]
780
00:45:24,288 --> 00:45:26,856
-That is slightly more.
-Yes, it does.
781
00:45:26,891 --> 00:45:28,524
Come on, get angry. Come on.
782
00:45:28,559 --> 00:45:32,394
Pretend Garret just
turned off your dark soul.
783
00:45:32,429 --> 00:45:35,998
[laugh] Down up, let's go.
784
00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:37,834
Go. Get it. Oh...
785
00:45:38,536 --> 00:45:41,137
That's close.
I almost got it that time.
786
00:45:41,172 --> 00:45:42,972
Totally, you should
have went for the slab.
787
00:45:43,007 --> 00:45:44,907
You would have
got it with the slab.
788
00:45:44,942 --> 00:45:46,976
-Garret, do you want
to squat me on this one?
-Yes.
789
00:45:51,048 --> 00:45:52,081
Motherfucker.
790
00:45:52,116 --> 00:45:53,082
[shouting]
791
00:45:58,422 --> 00:46:00,056
[exhales heavily}
792
00:46:04,128 --> 00:46:05,528
[panting]
793
00:46:05,563 --> 00:46:09,365
One... two... three.
794
00:46:17,341 --> 00:46:19,441
-Heck, I might have done more
than that.
-Yeah, it was easy.
795
00:46:19,476 --> 00:46:20,777
Damn!
796
00:46:21,913 --> 00:46:24,847
That makes you want to gain
more weight [chuckles].
797
00:46:24,882 --> 00:46:27,483
-I'm taking the other one.
-It's hard because I'm
training with the guys,
798
00:46:27,518 --> 00:46:30,319
then trying to do
a girl thing, but...
799
00:46:30,354 --> 00:46:32,087
There's no other women
in the world walking around
800
00:46:32,122 --> 00:46:35,391
with 240 pounds of muscle,
I mean, 245 or whatever.
801
00:46:35,426 --> 00:46:38,093
And I get that, but...
802
00:46:38,128 --> 00:46:41,363
At least for now,
I can cope with being
803
00:46:41,398 --> 00:46:45,100
a big muscular woman a lot
better than I can cope with
804
00:46:45,135 --> 00:46:46,902
being a small weak guy.
805
00:46:46,937 --> 00:46:49,605
If I walk into, you know,
a place of business
806
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,975
as a 250-pound woman, yeah,
everyone is gonna look.
807
00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:56,111
People are gonna treat
me awkward. It's gonna
make situations awkward.
808
00:46:56,146 --> 00:46:57,913
I'm not gonna get
treated as well,
809
00:46:57,948 --> 00:47:00,216
but that's part of
the sacrifice,
810
00:47:00,251 --> 00:47:03,586
part of the things I have to
accept to be myself.
811
00:47:10,060 --> 00:47:12,194
-[Janae] All right, ready.
-[boy] You big man.
812
00:47:12,229 --> 00:47:13,462
[Janae]
Let's go for break.
813
00:47:17,968 --> 00:47:20,469
-[Garret] Maxx, let me go,
I haven't gone yet.
-Woo-hoo.
814
00:47:20,504 --> 00:47:22,271
[Maxx] Isn't it fun?
815
00:47:22,306 --> 00:47:24,173
[Dad] Every time we
canoe, he's like this.
816
00:47:24,208 --> 00:47:25,408
He likes to play.
817
00:47:26,977 --> 00:47:28,611
[shouting and laughing]
818
00:47:31,215 --> 00:47:32,481
I wasn't ready to go.
819
00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:42,024
He's never, you know...
He's always been in
any kind of sport,
820
00:47:42,059 --> 00:47:47,229
always playing with
the big boys, you know,
play ball.
821
00:47:47,264 --> 00:47:49,431
You know, everything they've
done when they were kids,
822
00:47:49,466 --> 00:47:51,233
everything I've
ever done with them, you know,
823
00:47:51,268 --> 00:47:53,269
it's always been the
macho shit, you know.
824
00:47:55,406 --> 00:47:56,973
It's a total shock to me.
825
00:47:57,942 --> 00:48:00,209
I still don't believe it.
826
00:48:00,244 --> 00:48:03,212
I don't really
agree with it, but...
827
00:48:03,247 --> 00:48:05,281
It's what he wants to do,
I can't talk him out of it.
828
00:48:07,418 --> 00:48:12,254
That's his decision, well,
not much I can do about it.
829
00:48:12,289 --> 00:48:15,224
I don't, like I said,
I don't think it's right.
830
00:48:19,029 --> 00:48:20,630
He's not gonna listen to me.
831
00:48:25,169 --> 00:48:28,037
[playing "You All Loved
Him Once" by Conor Oberst]
832
00:48:37,314 --> 00:48:43,719
♪ You all loved him once and not without cause ♪
833
00:48:43,754 --> 00:48:50,025
♪ He fetch you through the winter, he led you through the fog ♪
834
00:48:50,060 --> 00:48:55,564
♪ You hid behind his body to be sheltered from the mob ♪
835
00:48:57,401 --> 00:49:03,706
♪ You all loved him once and not without cause ♪
836
00:49:05,409 --> 00:49:11,147
♪ You all loved him once when his glory was unmatched ♪
837
00:49:12,216 --> 00:49:18,354
♪ You signal when to celebrate was the bugle of his laugh, ♪
838
00:49:18,389 --> 00:49:24,360
♪ Oh, when it came time to stand with him You scattered with the rats ♪
839
00:49:26,263 --> 00:49:32,535
♪ You all loved him once that time has passed ♪
840
00:49:41,178 --> 00:49:43,512
[laughing and shouting]
841
00:49:45,682 --> 00:49:52,221
♪ You all loved him once, not without cause ♪
842
00:49:52,256 --> 00:49:58,127
♪ You all loved him once, now he is gone ♪
843
00:50:09,139 --> 00:50:11,273
-[Doctor] Hi.
-[Janae] Hey, how are you?
844
00:50:11,308 --> 00:50:13,108
-Good, how are you?
-Good, good.
845
00:50:13,143 --> 00:50:15,611
-Alright.
-I just want to get
a little more.
846
00:50:15,646 --> 00:50:18,313
-OK.
-It went down but from
going too long,
847
00:50:18,348 --> 00:50:22,418
like, when it fully came back,
we're definitely gonna
need more to get it back down.
848
00:50:22,453 --> 00:50:24,820
-OK, well, it looks good,
but I see what you're saying.
-It's nice and balanced.
849
00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:27,222
It's nice and even,
but there is just still,
850
00:50:27,257 --> 00:50:31,160
like if I clench,
there's still...
Still a lot of muscle there.
851
00:50:31,195 --> 00:50:32,761
Alright, well,
let's do that.
852
00:50:32,796 --> 00:50:33,763
Alright, awesome.
853
00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,533
Do it again.
854
00:50:37,568 --> 00:50:38,667
[instrumental music]
855
00:50:59,189 --> 00:51:00,623
[metal clashing]
856
00:51:06,830 --> 00:51:09,164
Come on, let's go.
Finish it.
857
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:10,266
[heavy breathing]
858
00:51:16,607 --> 00:51:17,639
Come on, lightweight.
859
00:51:17,674 --> 00:51:18,641
[heavy breathing]
860
00:51:21,745 --> 00:51:22,711
[grunting and sighing]
861
00:51:28,285 --> 00:51:30,285
One extra set and
I'm already sweating.
862
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,355
That seemed way too hard
for you, so I'm gonna go
90s and down.
863
00:51:34,625 --> 00:51:39,495
Right now, I walk into a gym
as Kroc and everyone wants
to be my friend,
864
00:51:39,530 --> 00:51:42,464
you know, and then I walk
around like this and
it's stares, and...
865
00:51:42,499 --> 00:51:46,268
Because as Kroc, the
stares were a positive to you.
866
00:51:46,303 --> 00:51:49,404
-Yeah, it's like...
-It's more...
now you're more worried
867
00:51:49,439 --> 00:51:53,475
about passing as
just a woman necessarily.
868
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:56,345
But, you know, to be honest,
you probably make other
869
00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:59,815
people feel inferior,
not in any other
870
00:51:59,850 --> 00:52:01,917
aspect except for
the actual size and
871
00:52:01,952 --> 00:52:04,586
strength, regardless
of you being a woman.
872
00:52:04,621 --> 00:52:07,156
Yeah, I mean, that could
be true too. I'm sure
there's guys, you know,
873
00:52:07,191 --> 00:52:10,359
Guys ted to everybody sizes
themselves up against
other people.
874
00:52:10,394 --> 00:52:12,594
It's really hard
to size themselves up
against a woman.
875
00:52:12,629 --> 00:52:14,263
[laughter]
876
00:52:21,405 --> 00:52:23,438
Here's the thing,
the day I can really
877
00:52:23,473 --> 00:52:26,208
look in the mirror
and all I see is Janae
878
00:52:26,243 --> 00:52:28,277
and there is nothing else,
is probably going
879
00:52:28,312 --> 00:52:29,578
to be the most
amazing day of my life.
880
00:52:29,613 --> 00:52:32,948
I know that, but it's just...
881
00:52:32,983 --> 00:52:35,551
I want my boys to be able
to be proud of me.
882
00:52:35,586 --> 00:52:38,487
And I might get choked up if
I start talking about this.
883
00:52:40,457 --> 00:52:43,825
The boys are your...
I don't want to call it
an excuse because
884
00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:46,461
it's not an excuse,
it's not fair to just
calling it an excuse
885
00:52:46,496 --> 00:52:48,664
because that's something
that you're really going
to have to deal with
886
00:52:48,699 --> 00:52:50,265
and I understand
the worry for that,
887
00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:53,669
but it is slowing
you down and so...
888
00:52:53,704 --> 00:52:56,471
Let's say, you wait five years,
and then five years
889
00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:59,441
comes running out,
"Oh, well, you know,
this just isn't
890
00:52:59,476 --> 00:53:01,944
the right time," push it back,
and before you know it,
891
00:53:01,979 --> 00:53:04,446
you're gonna be, you know,
60 years old and
892
00:53:04,481 --> 00:53:07,783
there's not... At that point,
what are you gonna do?
But I think if
893
00:53:07,818 --> 00:53:10,919
you can look at yourself in
the mirror right now and say
894
00:53:10,954 --> 00:53:12,988
that powerlifting is the only
thing that makes you special
895
00:53:13,023 --> 00:53:15,891
or different, there's something
seriously wrong with your head.
896
00:53:17,361 --> 00:53:19,761
So, I hate that
you think that way.
897
00:53:19,796 --> 00:53:21,430
And I know you think that way
and that's why
898
00:53:21,465 --> 00:53:24,433
it's easy to retreat to it,
because you know
899
00:53:24,468 --> 00:53:25,968
that if all else fails,
you're Matt Kroc.
900
00:53:26,003 --> 00:53:26,969
Yeah.
901
00:53:29,439 --> 00:53:31,674
[emotional music]
902
00:53:55,299 --> 00:53:56,932
[heavy breathing]
903
00:54:34,371 --> 00:54:35,971
[heavy breathing}
904
00:55:04,868 --> 00:55:09,771
I mean, I think like...
You know, doing the
two-gender thing makes
905
00:55:09,806 --> 00:55:12,808
life really difficult
bouncing back and forth.
906
00:55:12,843 --> 00:55:16,111
I mean, I know I'm not gonna
have peace with this until I
fully transition.
907
00:55:16,146 --> 00:55:20,082
And, you know, now, I've been
living as a woman every day
for a while,
908
00:55:20,117 --> 00:55:24,820
and, uhm, even being as big as
I am, it just, you know,
it is what it is.
909
00:55:30,927 --> 00:55:32,561
One of the big reasons
for the trip is
910
00:55:32,596 --> 00:55:34,863
the consults for
the facial surgery, but
911
00:55:34,898 --> 00:55:36,565
at the same time,
you know, connecting with
912
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:37,966
a bunch of my friends
that are out here.
913
00:55:39,736 --> 00:55:42,571
It's always nice to meet
people and share experiences,
914
00:55:42,606 --> 00:55:45,474
especially people that, you
know, have so much struggles.
915
00:55:59,189 --> 00:56:01,123
-[Janae] Hey.
-[Gracie] I love you.
916
00:56:01,158 --> 00:56:02,791
[Janae] It's good to see you.
917
00:56:06,196 --> 00:56:08,530
-This is gonna be a lot of fun.
-Yeah.
918
00:56:08,565 --> 00:56:09,531
Fuck.
919
00:56:09,566 --> 00:56:10,866
Let's go. Let's go.
920
00:56:11,835 --> 00:56:12,901
Fuck!
921
00:56:12,936 --> 00:56:14,403
[drumbeats]
922
00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:17,939
-Fuck!
-Come on. Down up.
923
00:56:17,974 --> 00:56:19,775
-There you go.
-Down up. Big air.
924
00:56:19,810 --> 00:56:22,411
-There you go. Come on, come on!
-Tight, tight, tight.
925
00:56:24,614 --> 00:56:27,182
[trainer]
Get up. Come on. Get up.
Yes, there it is.
926
00:56:27,217 --> 00:56:29,618
[Janae] Nice job,
and you're in.
927
00:56:32,589 --> 00:56:33,856
Come on, fucker.
928
00:56:35,459 --> 00:56:37,493
[Grace] Get that
shit tight and let's go.
929
00:56:38,862 --> 00:56:40,429
Don't be a fucking bitch.
930
00:56:42,666 --> 00:56:45,467
Come on. Wake the fuck up.
Let's go.
931
00:56:47,537 --> 00:56:48,937
-[Trainer] There you go.
-[Gracie] Get fucking mad.
932
00:56:48,972 --> 00:56:51,707
I want to see this weight move.
Let's go.
933
00:56:52,809 --> 00:56:54,877
-[Trainer] Lightweight, come on.
-Stand up now, let's go.
934
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,847
Straight pickup.
All legs on that pickup.
935
00:56:58,882 --> 00:57:00,882
Good. Big air.
936
00:57:00,917 --> 00:57:03,585
-Lock in your fucking air.
-Let's go.
937
00:57:03,620 --> 00:57:05,020
-Look up. Look up.
-[Trainer] Come on.
938
00:57:05,055 --> 00:57:05,987
Fuck, yeah.
939
00:57:06,022 --> 00:57:07,589
Hell fucking yeah.
940
00:57:08,658 --> 00:57:10,459
-Woo-hoo!
-Atta, girl.
941
00:57:10,494 --> 00:57:12,661
Fuck yeah!
942
00:57:12,696 --> 00:57:14,062
It fucking feels good,
don't it?
943
00:57:15,065 --> 00:57:16,865
Yeah, first time in a while.
944
00:57:22,873 --> 00:57:25,574
[Janae] Hey, good to see you.
Glad you made it.
945
00:57:25,609 --> 00:57:29,578
There was the rain.
Out of all the times of the year
you come, it always has to rain.
946
00:57:29,613 --> 00:57:32,147
-I know, what's up with that?
-Hey, welcome. Nice to meet you.
947
00:57:32,182 --> 00:57:34,749
-Nice to meet you too.
-Oh, you guys haven't
actually met before, have you?
948
00:57:34,784 --> 00:57:35,851
-No.
-No.
949
00:57:35,886 --> 00:57:37,752
Alright, awesome, awesome.
950
00:57:37,787 --> 00:57:40,055
Nice even grip, butt down,
head up.
951
00:57:40,090 --> 00:57:41,223
There you go.
Now, explode up.
952
00:57:42,592 --> 00:57:44,126
Good. Actually,
let's do another one.
953
00:57:46,229 --> 00:57:47,496
Slack out, explode up.
954
00:57:47,531 --> 00:57:48,897
Perfect, good.
955
00:57:48,932 --> 00:57:49,998
One more.
956
00:57:51,935 --> 00:57:54,569
Now, head up, explode.
957
00:57:54,604 --> 00:57:55,537
Good job.
958
00:57:57,040 --> 00:57:59,041
Look at that, tripled it.
No problem.
959
00:58:05,649 --> 00:58:09,017
A lot of the fears I had that
were holding me back from
transition
960
00:58:09,052 --> 00:58:12,621
weren't legitimate fears,
and I've come to realize that.
961
00:58:12,656 --> 00:58:14,923
When I do,
it's like when I was doing it,
962
00:58:14,958 --> 00:58:20,128
I was... I was scared that I was
always gonna lose Paula.
963
00:58:20,163 --> 00:58:21,897
-Right.
-So, you know, like...
964
00:58:21,932 --> 00:58:23,632
That was a big part of me.
965
00:58:23,667 --> 00:58:25,700
Yeah, that identity,
that part of you.
966
00:58:25,735 --> 00:58:27,302
Do you feel like
you're gonna forget that?
967
00:58:27,337 --> 00:58:29,938
That's what I was
afraid of, like..
968
00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:32,240
and not so much, you know,
quote-unquote, mad, but...
969
00:58:32,275 --> 00:58:37,145
Like, the powerlifter,
the person that I built
so much around,
970
00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:38,813
and the things I enjoy,
the things I did,
971
00:58:38,848 --> 00:58:40,549
and the things I was
successful with,
972
00:58:40,584 --> 00:58:42,617
I was afraid of losing that.
But like today,
973
00:58:42,652 --> 00:58:44,886
like training, you know,
with you and Gracie,
974
00:58:44,921 --> 00:58:46,755
I realize like,
"No, I'm still gonna
975
00:58:46,790 --> 00:58:48,089
do all that stuff and
that's still gonna be
976
00:58:48,124 --> 00:58:49,758
a big part of who I am."
977
00:58:49,793 --> 00:58:51,126
Uhm, you know,
It might change somewhat.
978
00:58:55,632 --> 00:58:58,133
[Janae] I'm at the
point right now like I feel like
979
00:58:58,168 --> 00:59:01,069
I'm getting like that
in-between stage, you know.
980
00:59:01,104 --> 00:59:02,871
You feel like me
when I shave my face, I'm like,
981
00:59:02,906 --> 00:59:06,241
"Oh, God, I can still see
female parts of you."
982
00:59:06,276 --> 00:59:08,910
That's why I don't like
shaving my face
because like even
983
00:59:08,945 --> 00:59:13,315
when I go to bed,
I know, I see my scars and when
I take a shower or...
984
00:59:13,350 --> 00:59:15,917
You know, even to the point
like I still shave my body,
985
00:59:15,952 --> 00:59:20,121
like that brings back
memories of being a female.
986
00:59:20,156 --> 00:59:25,193
Then I think, you know, I don't
have lower surgeries, so I do
get reminded, unfortunately.
987
00:59:25,228 --> 00:59:28,163
Yeah, I do the whole talk and
look in the mirror like,
988
00:59:28,198 --> 00:59:30,065
"What's she gonna look like?"
[laughs]
989
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:32,033
All the time, man. When I take
a dildo and I'm like,
990
00:59:32,068 --> 00:59:34,069
"I wish I had this size."
991
00:59:34,104 --> 00:59:36,771
Or you know, if I did have
an erect dick,
992
00:59:36,806 --> 00:59:39,307
is this what it would
look like?" [laughs]
993
00:59:39,342 --> 00:59:41,676
I get it, I get you.
994
00:59:41,711 --> 00:59:43,645
[calm music]
995
00:59:53,890 --> 00:59:55,223
-[Dr. Lee] Pleasure meeting you.
-[Janae] Nice to meet you.
996
00:59:55,258 --> 00:59:56,925
[Dr. Lee] How are
you doing today?
997
00:59:56,960 --> 00:59:58,159
[Janae] I'm doing very well.
How about you?
998
00:59:58,194 --> 00:59:59,795
[Dr. Lee] Very good, thank you.
999
01:00:00,797 --> 01:00:03,198
-So, last name is Kroczaleski.
-Yes.
1000
01:00:04,267 --> 01:00:06,101
May I refer to you as Janae.
1001
01:00:06,136 --> 01:00:07,802
Yes, it's my legal name.
1002
01:00:07,837 --> 01:00:10,672
Janae, 43 years old, pharmacist.
1003
01:00:10,707 --> 01:00:12,173
-Mhm.
-Excellent.
1004
01:00:12,208 --> 01:00:15,110
You've had a lot of
repair work in your
1005
01:00:15,145 --> 01:00:16,878
arms and tendons and...
1006
01:00:16,913 --> 01:00:18,680
From competing, yes.
1007
01:00:18,715 --> 01:00:20,348
Are you open to suggestions?
1008
01:00:20,383 --> 01:00:24,786
Yes, open to anything you
think would be beneficial.
1009
01:00:24,821 --> 01:00:29,958
In general, you want the outer
one-third of the brow
to be at the peak,
1010
01:00:29,993 --> 01:00:31,359
-so it's right here.
-OK, got you.
1011
01:00:31,394 --> 01:00:33,228
Just a little bit.
1012
01:00:33,263 --> 01:00:35,830
We don't want your
brows up here, okay?
1013
01:00:35,865 --> 01:00:37,432
Right, look
surprised all the time.
1014
01:00:37,467 --> 01:00:40,369
No surprise look,
OK, I don't do that.
1015
01:00:41,271 --> 01:00:45,407
So, we will reduce this,
bring the lip up a little bit.
1016
01:00:45,442 --> 01:00:48,076
Give it a little bit
more fullness in
1017
01:00:48,111 --> 01:00:51,346
a forward manner,
and then do the genioplasty
1018
01:00:51,381 --> 01:00:57,152
jaw reduction,
and finally a neck lift, OK?
1019
01:00:57,187 --> 01:00:59,387
-So, would this
make you happy if we do this?
-Yes.
1020
01:00:59,422 --> 01:01:00,922
-That would make me very happy.
-OK.
1021
01:01:09,232 --> 01:01:10,932
-Hey.
-What's going on?
1022
01:01:10,967 --> 01:01:12,901
-Good to see you.
-Yes, good to have you back.
1023
01:01:12,936 --> 01:01:15,403
-Hug, handshake, what
we got going on here.
-Both.
1024
01:01:15,438 --> 01:01:16,337
Looking good.
1025
01:01:16,372 --> 01:01:17,372
Trying, trying.
1026
01:01:17,407 --> 01:01:18,940
Lots of work to do but...
1027
01:01:18,975 --> 01:01:20,241
Getting there.
1028
01:01:20,276 --> 01:01:21,810
Still got a lot
of muscle on you.
1029
01:01:21,845 --> 01:01:23,178
Looking a little bit
different now.
1030
01:01:23,213 --> 01:01:26,214
It's so weird
to see facial hair, ugh.
1031
01:01:26,249 --> 01:01:27,983
Like, yeah, it's
uncomfortable. I wanted to...
1032
01:01:29,252 --> 01:01:32,487
My mother in law, she's
like, "This is my favorite one."
1033
01:01:32,522 --> 01:01:37,158
And then I had you in
the gym last year
1034
01:01:37,193 --> 01:01:39,027
and she's like...
1035
01:01:39,062 --> 01:01:40,929
"Is that the same guy
that I said is
1036
01:01:40,964 --> 01:01:42,997
my favorite one?"
I said "Yeah."
1037
01:01:43,032 --> 01:01:47,035
She's like, "Damn," so she say,
"We lost a good one," she said.
1038
01:01:47,070 --> 01:01:48,737
-I appreciate that,
you can tell her.
-We lost a good one.
1039
01:01:50,173 --> 01:01:52,140
Yeah, so I'm still
in that process.
1040
01:01:52,175 --> 01:01:54,476
You take like an estrogen
supplement?
1041
01:01:54,511 --> 01:01:56,712
Yes, estrogen basically.
Estradiol.
1042
01:01:58,114 --> 01:02:01,082
Are you still doing
performance-enhancing
drugs as well?
1043
01:02:01,117 --> 01:02:05,520
No, like I stopped all the
testosterone and all that stuff.
And then...
1044
01:02:05,555 --> 01:02:07,789
Because with steroid
you fight each other.
1045
01:02:07,824 --> 01:02:09,991
No, I'll never take
testosterone again ever.
1046
01:02:11,261 --> 01:02:15,063
And then the last time you were
here too when I picked you up,
1047
01:02:15,098 --> 01:02:18,967
I think I drove you
to your hotel as Matt.
1048
01:02:19,936 --> 01:02:21,136
Is Matt still around?
1049
01:02:22,505 --> 01:02:26,074
No, Matt has seen his
last days, you know.
1050
01:02:30,847 --> 01:02:34,215
[Janae] Hey, Garrett, can
you bring me my purse, please?
1051
01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:35,150
[Garrett] Yes.
1052
01:02:35,185 --> 01:02:36,318
Thanks, man.
1053
01:02:41,124 --> 01:02:42,423
-Thank you.
-What's up?
1054
01:02:42,458 --> 01:02:44,126
I left my one
eyeliner in there.
1055
01:02:47,197 --> 01:02:49,230
What actually are you gonna
do with your face?
I don't know, really.
1056
01:02:49,265 --> 01:02:51,065
You didn't tell us
much about it.
1057
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:52,066
It's gonna be some
nose or something?
1058
01:02:52,101 --> 01:02:53,067
I don't really know.
1059
01:02:53,102 --> 01:02:54,536
No, like everything.
1060
01:02:54,571 --> 01:02:57,071
Like what?
I don't get it exactly.
1061
01:02:57,106 --> 01:03:00,208
Okay, so the big things
like my jaw and forehead
need to be done.
1062
01:03:00,243 --> 01:03:02,410
-And what they do--
-What are they
gonna do to it?
1063
01:03:02,445 --> 01:03:05,914
OK, so, like...
With males, like you know,
you have brow bossing
1064
01:03:05,949 --> 01:03:08,283
in the ridge and
the forehead tends to slant
1065
01:03:08,318 --> 01:03:13,021
backwards and be flatter versus
more convex and more vertical.
1066
01:03:13,056 --> 01:03:14,989
And so basically,
what they're gonna do is
1067
01:03:15,024 --> 01:03:16,925
they're gonna smooth-- I don't
have a lot of brow-bossing,
1068
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,459
but they're going
to smooth out this part.
1069
01:03:18,494 --> 01:03:19,994
He's gonna cut a big chunk out
1070
01:03:20,029 --> 01:03:21,262
of the center of my forehead,
1071
01:03:21,297 --> 01:03:23,198
reshape it, and put it back in,
1072
01:03:23,233 --> 01:03:25,333
and then my jaw actually.
1073
01:03:25,368 --> 01:03:27,368
What's wrong with your jaw?
You just don't like it?
1074
01:03:27,403 --> 01:03:29,337
It's too square,
too wide, too...
1075
01:03:29,372 --> 01:03:32,574
-It extends too far as well.
-I have a square jaw actually.
1076
01:03:32,609 --> 01:03:36,511
For guys, that's a good thing,
you know, but, uh, typically.
1077
01:03:36,546 --> 01:03:40,381
Yeah, I just feel like this one
just really, it's kinda,
it says me, you know.
1078
01:03:40,416 --> 01:03:44,419
Fits my personality, the lifter,
you know, the lifter chick.
1079
01:03:44,454 --> 01:03:47,288
-Athletic.
-Yeah, it's kind of badass.
You know.
1080
01:03:47,323 --> 01:03:48,890
[laughing]
1081
01:03:52,528 --> 01:03:54,529
-Are you guys ready to go?
-I'm ready.
1082
01:03:54,564 --> 01:03:56,164
I'll put on
my little sweatshirt.
1083
01:03:57,066 --> 01:03:58,333
[calm music]
1084
01:04:04,073 --> 01:04:06,408
[Garrett] Dude, one of us
is definitely gonna buy that.
1085
01:04:07,343 --> 01:04:08,643
[Logan] Like Maxx.
1086
01:04:08,678 --> 01:04:10,311
[Garrett]
It's a little frozen.
1087
01:04:10,346 --> 01:04:12,413
I'm gonna
try to walk across.
1088
01:04:12,448 --> 01:04:14,048
[laughter]
1089
01:04:14,083 --> 01:04:16,384
Oh, double headshots.
1090
01:04:16,419 --> 01:04:18,286
[Janae]
Logan, frisbee.
1091
01:04:18,321 --> 01:04:20,388
See, right here,
you can try to get across.
1092
01:04:20,423 --> 01:04:22,257
Maxx,
go all the way up there.
1093
01:04:22,292 --> 01:04:24,226
I bet you it's solid,
Maxx, try it.
1094
01:04:26,029 --> 01:04:28,296
[Janae] Most moms would
not let you play on the ice
1095
01:04:28,331 --> 01:04:30,498
and encourage you
to jump that way [laughs].
1096
01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:33,935
Hey!
1097
01:04:33,970 --> 01:04:35,436
I have a feeling this
is gonna break
1098
01:04:35,471 --> 01:04:37,338
right here.
1099
01:04:37,373 --> 01:04:38,907
Be ready to just stand on top.
1100
01:04:38,942 --> 01:04:40,208
[Garret] I guess I'll just--
Oh, Jeez!
1101
01:04:40,243 --> 01:04:42,543
[laughing and shouting]
1102
01:04:42,578 --> 01:04:45,213
[laughs]
Garret fell.
1103
01:04:46,249 --> 01:04:47,515
I got it for you, mom.
1104
01:04:49,018 --> 01:04:51,319
-[Janae] Test it, Maxx.
Test it a little.
-[Maxx] I'm not gonna buy it.
1105
01:04:51,354 --> 01:04:53,521
I'm totally with you.
1106
01:04:53,556 --> 01:04:55,390
-There he goes.
-No.
1107
01:04:55,425 --> 01:04:56,124
Oh, come on.
1108
01:04:59,729 --> 01:05:01,630
Geez.
No, I definitely won't.
1109
01:05:05,201 --> 01:05:07,001
Oh, close range.
1110
01:05:07,036 --> 01:05:08,036
[laughter]
1111
01:05:13,276 --> 01:05:15,310
You know, the bond I have with them is,
1112
01:05:15,345 --> 01:05:18,012
I mean, is the result of a lot of effort, a lot of time,
1113
01:05:18,047 --> 01:05:21,049
and... But it's something that was always
1114
01:05:21,084 --> 01:05:24,352
there from-- from the day they were born.
1115
01:05:29,425 --> 01:05:34,429
And, uhm, if I never transition to try to protect
1116
01:05:34,464 --> 01:05:37,298
them from it, what am I teaching them? That it's more
1117
01:05:37,333 --> 01:05:41,235
important to conform to what other people expect than to be
1118
01:05:41,270 --> 01:05:43,471
true to yourself? I think that's a horrible lesson.
1119
01:05:44,674 --> 01:05:47,575
Alright, everybody close
together. Logan, your head
should be over here.
1120
01:05:49,445 --> 01:05:51,980
This is gonna be
a great picture.
Alright, ready?
1121
01:05:52,015 --> 01:05:53,581
To try to be a positive role model
1122
01:05:53,616 --> 01:05:55,450
for them is hugely important to me.
1123
01:05:55,485 --> 01:05:57,151
It matters more than anything and
1124
01:05:57,186 --> 01:05:58,686
I just really hope I'm doing that.
1125
01:05:58,721 --> 01:06:01,957
One, two, three.
1126
01:06:20,443 --> 01:06:23,578
[Janae] I really feel like
this is the best surgeon
in the world for this procedure.
1127
01:06:23,613 --> 01:06:28,683
This is the first thing
I'm doing that is locking
me into one gender.
1128
01:06:33,222 --> 01:06:37,258
[in Korean]
1129
01:06:37,293 --> 01:06:41,162
[translator]
The examination will start,
so we will start the recording.
1130
01:06:41,197 --> 01:06:44,232
In normal voice, alright.
1131
01:06:44,267 --> 01:06:46,300
When the sunlight
strikes raindrops in the air,
1132
01:06:46,335 --> 01:06:48,536
they act as a prism
and form a rainbow.
1133
01:06:48,571 --> 01:06:51,673
The rainbow is a division
of white light into
many beautiful colors.
1134
01:06:52,675 --> 01:06:54,376
Now, my training voice.
1135
01:06:57,346 --> 01:07:00,648
There is, according to legend,
a boiling pot of gold
at one end.
1136
01:07:00,683 --> 01:07:02,817
People look, but
no one ever finds it.
1137
01:07:02,852 --> 01:07:05,286
When a man looks for something
beyond his reach, his friends
1138
01:07:05,321 --> 01:07:08,156
-say he's looking for the
pot of gold--
-[speaking Korean]
1139
01:07:08,191 --> 01:07:10,458
Chin up.
Have your chin up.
1140
01:07:10,493 --> 01:07:13,728
Keep on breathing through
your mouth and say haaa.
1141
01:07:13,763 --> 01:07:15,396
Haaa.
1142
01:07:15,431 --> 01:07:16,631
OK, OK.
1143
01:07:27,176 --> 01:07:29,210
[Dr. Kim] Janae.
1144
01:07:29,245 --> 01:07:30,578
[Dr. Kim] What seems
to be the problem?
1145
01:07:30,613 --> 01:07:32,747
I'm transitioning
from male to female
1146
01:07:32,782 --> 01:07:37,518
and voice is one of
the biggest issues for me,
and yeah, so...
1147
01:07:37,553 --> 01:07:41,389
[Dr. Kim] Let me show you a
surgical procedure,
our surgical procedure.
1148
01:07:42,792 --> 01:07:47,862
We shorten these portions,
so this is new vocal cord.
1149
01:07:47,897 --> 01:07:51,433
So we change your vocal cord
more shorter, thinner
and tighter.
1150
01:07:52,335 --> 01:07:55,470
Tomorrow morning
we start the surgery
maybe 9:00 a.m.
1151
01:07:55,505 --> 01:07:57,805
-OK.
-You should be here 8:00 a.m.
1152
01:07:57,840 --> 01:07:59,174
8:00 a.m. okay.
1153
01:08:27,503 --> 01:08:29,537
[Janae] These are
life-saving procedures
1154
01:08:29,572 --> 01:08:32,140
and that's what
people don't understand.
1155
01:08:32,175 --> 01:08:34,275
This is like a
huge thing for me.
1156
01:08:39,448 --> 01:08:41,749
I look forward to a point
when people understand,
1157
01:08:41,784 --> 01:08:44,252
when everyone understands
and the whole
1158
01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:46,387
idea that people
would have to live in
1159
01:08:46,422 --> 01:08:49,624
fear the way they do now
would be absurd.
1160
01:08:51,661 --> 01:08:55,897
It's just-- I don't want
anyone to have to go
through what I've gone
1161
01:08:55,932 --> 01:08:59,167
through and struggle with
this for so many years
1162
01:08:59,202 --> 01:09:02,537
to where you get to a point
where people can just
be themselves, you know,
1163
01:09:02,572 --> 01:09:06,574
no matter what it is, and no
one will think anything of that.
1164
01:09:06,609 --> 01:09:08,709
The things I do and
the way I live my life,
1165
01:09:08,744 --> 01:09:13,347
if that stops even one kid...
[cries]
1166
01:09:13,382 --> 01:09:14,883
from committing suicide or...
1167
01:09:17,954 --> 01:09:22,790
You know, one family from
disowning their child, then...
1168
01:09:24,260 --> 01:09:28,796
any sacrifices I have to make
are well worth it, you know.
1169
01:09:30,967 --> 01:09:33,234
[emotional music]
1170
01:09:52,688 --> 01:09:54,855
[Janae] I'm just
really looking forward to
1171
01:09:54,890 --> 01:09:58,659
not having to do the back
and forth and just be able
to focus
1172
01:09:58,694 --> 01:10:01,495
on moving forward,
and just enjoying my life
1173
01:10:01,530 --> 01:10:03,531
and being comfortable
in the skin I'm in.
1174
01:10:03,566 --> 01:10:06,367
It's just something
I've never known.
1175
01:10:10,906 --> 01:10:13,374
[emotional music]
1176
01:11:28,017 --> 01:11:30,518
Good morning everyone.
1177
01:11:30,553 --> 01:11:33,020
I know you guys have been waiting very patiently to
1178
01:11:33,055 --> 01:11:36,624
hear what my new voice sounds like, so here it is.
1179
01:11:36,659 --> 01:11:41,495
I've been talking for abouta month now and after two months
1180
01:11:41,530 --> 01:11:44,432
of no talking which was brutal.
1181
01:11:44,467 --> 01:11:46,767
At first, it was a little hoarse and scratchy but
1182
01:11:46,802 --> 01:11:49,904
it's getting smoother and higher in pitch every day.
1183
01:11:49,939 --> 01:11:55,009
My surgeon said it will continue to increase in pitch for up to a year.
1184
01:11:55,044 --> 01:11:57,578
For where I'm at right now, I'm really happy with the
1185
01:11:57,613 --> 01:12:02,550
results and, uhm, excited aboutwhere I think it will end up at.
1186
01:12:02,585 --> 01:12:07,388
And uhm, I just wanted to say you know, thank all you guys that follow me
1187
01:12:07,423 --> 01:12:10,725
and support me, it really does mean a lot.
1188
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,596
And, uhm, I hope everyone's having a wonderful day and I'll talk to you all soon.
1189
01:12:15,631 --> 01:12:16,764
Thanks, bye.
1190
01:12:19,635 --> 01:12:21,769
[Janae over recording]
Hoarse and scratchy but it's getting smoother
1191
01:12:21,804 --> 01:12:23,871
and higher in pitch every day.
1192
01:12:32,481 --> 01:12:34,148
With every surgical
procedure that
1193
01:12:34,183 --> 01:12:36,617
I'm gonna need, it's
gonna be about $100,000.
1194
01:12:36,652 --> 01:12:40,154
And this is money I've been
saving for years,
and trying to put aside,
1195
01:12:40,189 --> 01:12:44,692
and, you know, and still take
care of all my other financial
responsibilities.
1196
01:12:44,727 --> 01:12:47,561
I'm worried about losing my car,
losing my house.
1197
01:12:47,596 --> 01:12:50,598
You know, how am I gonna
take care of my boys?
1198
01:12:51,967 --> 01:12:54,001
But...
1199
01:12:56,505 --> 01:13:02,109
Yeah, you know, it's tough,
and... and...
1200
01:13:02,144 --> 01:13:05,746
Then I'm also concerned that
it's gonna be difficult
finding another job.
1201
01:13:05,781 --> 01:13:12,019
You know, interviewing
being openly transgender
is really tough.
1202
01:13:12,054 --> 01:13:15,390
[piano music over waves]
1203
01:13:25,935 --> 01:13:28,068
[Janae] If I am still
what everyone thought
I was before,
1204
01:13:28,103 --> 01:13:31,972
if I was this 270-pound
muscular white male,
1205
01:13:32,007 --> 01:13:33,741
these things would
definitely not be
1206
01:13:33,776 --> 01:13:35,743
happening by any structure
of the imagination.
1207
01:13:37,146 --> 01:13:39,947
[piano music]
1208
01:13:49,258 --> 01:13:52,193
[Janae] I did everything
I could and put it off for
as long as possible.
1209
01:13:52,228 --> 01:13:54,829
This is never anything
I wanted or asked for.
1210
01:14:03,105 --> 01:14:05,573
[Janae] I've been through
cancer, you know, I've been
through the Marines,
1211
01:14:05,608 --> 01:14:07,575
I've grew up poor like...
1212
01:14:07,610 --> 01:14:09,643
I don't want it to sound
like the worse, there's
1213
01:14:09,678 --> 01:14:11,612
people out there that have
had a lot harder than me,
1214
01:14:11,647 --> 01:14:13,814
but this is way more difficult
1215
01:14:13,849 --> 01:14:16,050
than any of that stuff,
way more difficult.
1216
01:14:22,892 --> 01:14:25,059
I had a good career,
a beautiful wife,
1217
01:14:25,094 --> 01:14:26,961
you know, I was
a champion athlete.
1218
01:14:26,996 --> 01:14:28,829
I was on the cover
of magazines.
1219
01:14:28,864 --> 01:14:30,698
Yeah, I knew that
there was a good chance
1220
01:14:30,733 --> 01:14:32,033
I'd be losing all that.
1221
01:14:33,336 --> 01:14:36,770
-[Surgeon] Hey.
-All right, see you
guys on the flip side.
1222
01:14:36,805 --> 01:14:38,105
Nighty night.
1223
01:14:38,140 --> 01:14:39,874
Here he comes.
1224
01:14:44,580 --> 01:14:47,915
[Janae] What are you gonna do?
You know, you can't go on hiding
who you are.
1225
01:14:50,119 --> 01:14:52,520
You know there's
gonna be sacrifices,
1226
01:14:52,555 --> 01:14:55,656
but there is
really not a choice.
1227
01:14:58,160 --> 01:14:59,961
[instrumental music]
1228
01:16:19,742 --> 01:16:22,710
[Janae] You know, for a lot of transgender people, you know, it does
1229
01:16:22,745 --> 01:16:24,879
end for the most part when they transition.
1230
01:16:26,348 --> 01:16:29,016
What people talk about like,looking back over their previous
1231
01:16:29,051 --> 01:16:31,786
life and it feels like an entirely different person.
1232
01:16:32,988 --> 01:16:35,389
Like a story they read and not something actually lived,
1233
01:16:35,424 --> 01:16:38,225
but for me, I don't think that story has an ending.
1234
01:16:42,264 --> 01:16:45,165
Make the best of a very complicated situation and
1235
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,202
be as happy as I can be, but there is no solution.
1236
01:16:48,237 --> 01:16:49,737
There's no answer.
1237
01:17:26,308 --> 01:17:28,142
[music]
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