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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,650 --> 00:00:04,960 Previously, on "Dirty John"... 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:06,760 Rocket-propelled grenade. 3 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:09,270 The guy who was next to me in the Humvee died. 4 00:00:09,290 --> 00:00:10,476 You're saying he wasn't there? 5 00:00:10,500 --> 00:00:12,600 I'm just saying he wasn't in Iraq 6 00:00:12,610 --> 00:00:14,700 when you keep saying he was. 7 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:16,180 Who the hell's "TS"? 8 00:00:16,190 --> 00:00:17,456 "Can't wait for tomorrow night." 9 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,540 - Who is it? - Toby, my nephew. 10 00:00:19,580 --> 00:00:21,590 - Toby Sellars? - Excuse me. 11 00:00:21,610 --> 00:00:23,650 - Be right back. - Who's that? 12 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:25,096 - Is that... - Yeah, it's my brother-in-law. 13 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:26,530 - Ex-brother... - Your brother-in-law? 14 00:00:26,550 --> 00:00:28,250 You should be glad your dad killed your mom 15 00:00:28,290 --> 00:00:30,190 so she didn't have to be around to see this. 16 00:00:32,060 --> 00:00:34,390 Did you open my mail? How dare you! 17 00:00:34,410 --> 00:00:36,660 It's a felony to open someone's mail. 18 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:39,400 In California and Ohio he's been in prison. 19 00:00:39,430 --> 00:00:41,500 - So then what should I do? - If you have a will 20 00:00:41,530 --> 00:00:42,930 and he's in it, take him out. 21 00:00:42,970 --> 00:00:44,870 - Call someone, Deb! - Oh, my God! 22 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:46,540 - What's going on? - I don't know. 23 00:00:46,570 --> 00:00:49,440 He was fine, and then he just collapsed. 24 00:00:49,470 --> 00:00:52,170 Could you help me understand his history with narcotics? 25 00:00:52,190 --> 00:00:54,490 If you were me, what would you do? 26 00:00:54,530 --> 00:00:56,450 - Would you leave? - Stay in hotels 27 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:58,210 or places you've never stayed before. 28 00:00:58,250 --> 00:00:59,580 Dye your hair, probably. 29 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:01,480 Make yourself a difficult target. 30 00:01:08,740 --> 00:01:10,480 _ 31 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:12,760 You just have to give it time. 32 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:14,900 - I can't. - You... you just have 33 00:01:14,930 --> 00:01:17,270 to give it a chance to work. 34 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:21,040 I know, I know, I do, but it just feels wrong. 35 00:01:21,070 --> 00:01:22,540 It feels wrong. 36 00:01:22,570 --> 00:01:25,070 But they said it would, remember? 37 00:01:25,110 --> 00:01:28,830 They... they said that it would feel counterintuitive. 38 00:01:28,850 --> 00:01:31,880 That's what Mr.... um, your counselor said. 39 00:01:31,890 --> 00:01:33,920 That to make a marriage work 40 00:01:33,950 --> 00:01:36,090 that, you know, it seems like 41 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,050 we should hang on much tighter 42 00:01:38,090 --> 00:01:40,920 and stay even closer, but that sometimes 43 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:42,990 a, um... a separation 44 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:45,090 can bring a new perspective. 45 00:01:45,130 --> 00:01:46,830 Said it would only work 46 00:01:46,870 --> 00:01:49,170 if we both had the same goals, if we were both honest... 47 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,770 - Right. - About wanting it to work 48 00:01:50,780 --> 00:01:51,780 but Cindi isn't. 49 00:01:51,790 --> 00:01:53,450 She's pretending she does but she doesn't. 50 00:01:53,470 --> 00:01:55,340 Why do you say that? 51 00:01:55,370 --> 00:01:56,780 It was the only way left to show him 52 00:01:56,790 --> 00:01:58,310 that we really tried hard enough. 53 00:01:58,340 --> 00:02:00,310 Hard enough to what? 54 00:02:00,350 --> 00:02:01,950 To save the marriage. 55 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:04,080 So he can accept that it can't be saved. 56 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,350 Well, that's not what he thought was happening. 57 00:02:06,410 --> 00:02:08,750 He went there in good faith. 58 00:02:08,790 --> 00:02:09,930 Of course he did. 59 00:02:09,950 --> 00:02:12,160 I mean, the whole thing was his idea. 60 00:02:12,190 --> 00:02:14,590 Years of not listening to me, of trying to control 61 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:17,310 everything that I do, I finally say that I want 62 00:02:17,330 --> 00:02:19,330 to leave, that I am leaving, 63 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,130 and then he wants to go to counseling. 64 00:02:21,170 --> 00:02:22,730 - Cindi... - So someone can tell me 65 00:02:22,750 --> 00:02:24,770 to try harder. Tell me to be happy 66 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,810 my whole life not being allowed to wear a bikini on the beach. 67 00:02:28,370 --> 00:02:30,120 Not being allowed to go grocery shopping alone 68 00:02:30,140 --> 00:02:31,870 or do anything alone. 69 00:02:31,910 --> 00:02:34,140 I always encouraged her to be 70 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:36,150 whatever she wanted to be. 71 00:02:36,180 --> 00:02:38,150 Said I never gave her room to grow. 72 00:02:38,180 --> 00:02:40,680 I asked, "Grow into what?" 73 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,050 She won't ever tell me. 74 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,290 I've known her my whole life. 75 00:02:48,330 --> 00:02:50,530 I can't remember a time when I didn't love her. 76 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,900 I'm the love of his life because I've just been there 77 00:02:52,930 --> 00:02:54,460 his whole life. 78 00:02:54,500 --> 00:02:56,830 We were babies. We didn't know any better. 79 00:02:56,870 --> 00:02:59,200 You were right. 80 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,670 You told me that we were too young to get married 81 00:03:01,710 --> 00:03:04,340 and I didn't listen. 82 00:03:04,380 --> 00:03:07,480 Debbie listened and I didn't and you were right, 83 00:03:07,510 --> 00:03:08,610 like you always are. 84 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:11,380 - And now here we are. - Don't be so dramatic. 85 00:03:11,420 --> 00:03:13,520 And I say that as someone who's on your side. 86 00:03:13,550 --> 00:03:15,920 But you don't want me to be happy. 87 00:03:19,290 --> 00:03:21,420 I want to stop you 88 00:03:21,460 --> 00:03:23,860 from making a mistake that you won't be able to fix. 89 00:03:23,900 --> 00:03:25,430 And you're almost there. 90 00:03:25,460 --> 00:03:27,200 You've been together so long. 91 00:03:27,230 --> 00:03:28,980 You were both so young. 92 00:03:28,990 --> 00:03:32,840 When Cindi thinks about what she thinks she's missed 93 00:03:32,870 --> 00:03:35,370 it's easier for her to just blame you. 94 00:03:35,410 --> 00:03:37,610 It's easier for her to say 95 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,010 that you're in her way and that she wants a new start 96 00:03:40,050 --> 00:03:42,350 rather than make the life she has 97 00:03:42,380 --> 00:03:44,680 into the life that she wants. 98 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,020 When we choose what we want, 99 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:50,950 what we feel right now, 100 00:03:50,990 --> 00:03:53,520 over what we promised... 101 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:56,290 what we swore to somebody... 102 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,970 That can haunt us the rest of our lives. 103 00:04:06,140 --> 00:04:07,900 Well, I would choose whatever comes next 104 00:04:07,940 --> 00:04:10,610 to be free right now. 105 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:13,940 I would choose being haunted my whole life, Mom. 106 00:04:16,110 --> 00:04:17,550 She wants a divorce. 107 00:04:17,580 --> 00:04:19,350 She's not saying it yet but she will. 108 00:04:19,380 --> 00:04:21,750 And what am I gonna do? 109 00:04:21,790 --> 00:04:24,450 She's... she's confused. 110 00:04:24,490 --> 00:04:27,160 She's just confused. 111 00:04:27,190 --> 00:04:29,006 Can you just tell me that you at least understand 112 00:04:29,030 --> 00:04:31,090 what I'm saying? 113 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,470 Trust in the Lord with all your heart 114 00:04:40,510 --> 00:04:43,840 and lean not on your own understandings. 115 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,780 In all your ways acknowledge Him 116 00:04:45,810 --> 00:04:47,910 and He will direct your path. 117 00:04:49,510 --> 00:04:52,010 - You love that one. - Mm. 118 00:04:52,050 --> 00:04:53,850 You love the whole Book of Proverbs, 119 00:04:53,890 --> 00:04:57,010 but you really love that one. 120 00:04:57,050 --> 00:04:59,010 Because it's true. 121 00:05:00,660 --> 00:05:02,970 He directs our paths. 122 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:12,990 Bobby, hey! 123 00:05:13,030 --> 00:05:14,340 Uh, Frank left for work already. 124 00:05:14,370 --> 00:05:15,550 Did he tell you he was gonna be here? 125 00:05:15,570 --> 00:05:17,030 No, I... I figured he wouldn't. 126 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,910 Said he wouldn't need to be. 127 00:05:19,930 --> 00:05:23,010 Said I could come by any time and you could help me out. 128 00:05:23,110 --> 00:05:25,520 - Yeah, sure. - The loading dock's 129 00:05:25,550 --> 00:05:26,950 right next to where we park. 130 00:05:26,990 --> 00:05:29,050 It's always lit, but still. 131 00:05:29,090 --> 00:05:31,950 Three muggings in the last five weeks. 132 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:34,820 I'm a manager now, so I gotta lock up at nights, too, so... 133 00:05:34,860 --> 00:05:37,230 Wow, I had no idea it had gotten so dangerous. 134 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:40,200 Poor Cindi must wait up all night worrying about you. 135 00:05:40,230 --> 00:05:41,230 I know I would. 136 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:43,070 Oh, finally. 137 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,370 Here. 138 00:05:48,410 --> 00:05:51,070 Now, don't you go holding up a liquor store or anything. 139 00:05:51,940 --> 00:05:55,050 Pretty sure I'm not gonna be doing that. 140 00:05:55,070 --> 00:05:57,130 - Good looking out, though. - Mm-hmm. 141 00:06:25,030 --> 00:06:30,030 - Synced & corrected by MementMori - -- www.addic7ed.com -- 142 00:06:31,830 --> 00:06:33,820 He steals drugs from hospitals... 143 00:06:33,830 --> 00:06:36,140 which he's been to prison for, by the way... 144 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,440 and for the stalking. 145 00:06:37,470 --> 00:06:38,860 I saw all that stuff in there. 146 00:06:38,870 --> 00:06:40,880 - I get it, I do. - Okay, so how many 147 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:42,880 restraining orders do there have to be 148 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:44,720 from how many different people before you do your job? 149 00:06:44,740 --> 00:06:47,900 Well, right now I am seeing which law 150 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,710 I can actually enforce 151 00:06:49,740 --> 00:06:52,920 in this particular situation that we have right here. 152 00:06:52,980 --> 00:06:55,580 Okay, "John Meehan." 153 00:06:55,820 --> 00:06:58,880 Parole officer has Bay Front Avenue 154 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,790 on Balboa as his current address. 155 00:07:00,820 --> 00:07:02,860 Nice. You live there too, miss? 156 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:05,860 - Yes. - Okay. 157 00:07:05,890 --> 00:07:08,060 He's not on the lease, though, is that right? 158 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:10,000 "John Meehan"? 159 00:07:10,030 --> 00:07:12,100 No. 160 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,780 Does it... how do you know that? 161 00:07:13,820 --> 00:07:15,950 Well, it says PO asked for a copy of the lease 162 00:07:15,990 --> 00:07:18,250 to confirm, but Meehan told her he couldn't give her one 163 00:07:18,290 --> 00:07:20,500 - 'cause it wasn't in his name. - Given his history 164 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:22,900 of conning women, she didn't maybe think that 165 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,430 - that was a red flag? - She did, actually. 166 00:07:25,460 --> 00:07:27,430 File says she was planning to make an unannounced 167 00:07:27,470 --> 00:07:29,030 site visit to check his story out. 168 00:07:29,070 --> 00:07:32,130 Okay, except how about she did not do that? 169 00:07:32,170 --> 00:07:34,770 He's not the only parolee she's gotta keep tabs on. 170 00:07:34,810 --> 00:07:37,800 And he gave her the address in mid-December, 171 00:07:37,820 --> 00:07:40,900 so she probably just hasn't had time to get there. 172 00:07:44,050 --> 00:07:46,820 You two were pen pals when he was in the joint? 173 00:07:46,850 --> 00:07:48,520 No. 174 00:07:48,550 --> 00:07:51,300 So it just all happened pretty fast, then, 175 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:52,640 once he got out. 176 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,820 You guys meeting, getting together I guess. 177 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:56,160 Is that what you guess? 178 00:07:56,190 --> 00:07:57,780 Do you think you're being subtle? 179 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,390 - Look, I... - Because you are not. 180 00:07:59,430 --> 00:08:00,900 Do you not think that my mother 181 00:08:00,940 --> 00:08:03,780 is already upset enough over this? 182 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:06,140 You think she wants to come here 183 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,980 so you can make her feel worse? 184 00:08:09,020 --> 00:08:10,920 Think that's why she pays her taxes? 185 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,260 So she can come into your office 186 00:08:12,270 --> 00:08:14,260 and you can shame her? 187 00:08:14,300 --> 00:08:15,840 - Is that what you think? - Look, that's not 188 00:08:15,860 --> 00:08:17,930 - what I think. - Good. 189 00:08:17,970 --> 00:08:19,800 I'm sorry. 190 00:08:19,830 --> 00:08:22,240 But what I do think is there's not a whole lot I can do. 191 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:23,460 Right. 192 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,000 So that means you can do nothing, right? 193 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,500 What I mean is, since he's paid his recent debt 194 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,480 to society, what I have is a bad guy 195 00:08:30,510 --> 00:08:32,380 with a bad history who, so far as we know, 196 00:08:32,410 --> 00:08:35,000 hasn't actually broken a law in Newport Beach. 197 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,480 I can't even pick him up for failure to report 198 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:38,920 to his PO. 199 00:08:38,950 --> 00:08:40,970 Whatever this is he's up to, he's good at it. 200 00:08:40,980 --> 00:08:44,980 But he's on our radar now... my radar... 201 00:08:45,050 --> 00:08:46,950 - and if he makes a move... - When. 202 00:08:46,970 --> 00:08:48,610 When he makes a move. 203 00:08:48,690 --> 00:08:50,570 We'll be on him like a ton of bricks. 204 00:08:50,590 --> 00:08:52,780 You have my word on that. 205 00:08:52,820 --> 00:08:54,110 Right now that's all I got. 206 00:08:56,690 --> 00:08:58,070 Oh, what about this place? 207 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,670 I designed the club at that place. 208 00:08:59,690 --> 00:09:00,810 John might remember. 209 00:09:00,830 --> 00:09:02,800 Anyway, you know, I'm pretending I'm going 210 00:09:02,830 --> 00:09:04,476 - on a spa vacation. - This place looks good. 211 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:05,920 I don't want to hemorrhage money. 212 00:09:05,930 --> 00:09:08,050 That place is so expensive, Ronnie. 213 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:09,670 So where, then? Huh? 214 00:09:09,690 --> 00:09:11,670 Don't get frustrated with me in addition 215 00:09:11,690 --> 00:09:13,570 - to everything else right now. - We can't go to Grandma's, 216 00:09:13,590 --> 00:09:14,730 and you can't go to Trey's 'cause he knows 217 00:09:14,750 --> 00:09:16,010 where both of them live, and I'm out 218 00:09:16,030 --> 00:09:17,410 of the penthouse already. 219 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:20,480 Although, technically that is still paid for 220 00:09:20,510 --> 00:09:22,530 through the end of the month, but that's like ground zero 221 00:09:22,550 --> 00:09:23,930 for this whole stupid situation. 222 00:09:23,950 --> 00:09:25,450 What about one of those places, you know, 223 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:27,030 over by the Spectrum? 224 00:09:27,070 --> 00:09:28,440 You know those places? 225 00:09:28,450 --> 00:09:30,570 Like, one of the corporate suites? 226 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:31,920 - Yeah. - With the shower curtains? 227 00:09:31,940 --> 00:09:34,070 They have self-parking, Mom. 228 00:09:34,110 --> 00:09:35,720 I know, but I have to go 229 00:09:35,740 --> 00:09:38,180 to a place that I wouldn't normally go, you know? 230 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:39,210 I don't want to stand out. 231 00:09:39,220 --> 00:09:40,270 I don't want to do my normal routine. 232 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,150 I don't want John to find me. 233 00:09:42,180 --> 00:09:44,280 We should pay for the room in cash. 234 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,110 Maybe you would know if he was monitoring 235 00:09:46,130 --> 00:09:48,220 your credit cards, but maybe you wouldn't, you know? 236 00:09:48,260 --> 00:09:50,720 Let's go find an ATM. 237 00:09:50,900 --> 00:09:52,990 _ 238 00:09:53,070 --> 00:09:56,880 _ 239 00:10:03,940 --> 00:10:04,990 I got it. 240 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:12,610 Oh, my God. 241 00:10:12,650 --> 00:10:15,810 It's not so bad. 242 00:10:15,850 --> 00:10:19,850 I mean, at least you're not here forever, right? 243 00:10:19,890 --> 00:10:23,360 - Right. - It's dark and musty. 244 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:31,030 You know there's no room service here, right? 245 00:10:31,070 --> 00:10:32,610 That's all right. I... I'm not... 246 00:10:32,650 --> 00:10:35,010 I'm not really hungry anyway. 247 00:10:36,270 --> 00:10:38,370 Did you call the hospital? 248 00:10:38,410 --> 00:10:41,470 I did, and, you know, I... I talked to the nurse 249 00:10:41,490 --> 00:10:43,740 who was sitting right in front of John. 250 00:10:43,780 --> 00:10:45,380 He's not going anywhere. 251 00:10:45,410 --> 00:10:47,730 She says his fever is very high 252 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:49,920 and they're watching his immune system. 253 00:10:49,950 --> 00:10:52,950 Post-surgery or something. 254 00:10:52,990 --> 00:10:55,830 Let's hope they forget to sanitize, huh? 255 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,840 - But I should go. - Oh, okay. 256 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,640 Are you gonna be okay here on your own? 257 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:03,980 - Yes. - You sure? 258 00:11:04,010 --> 00:11:05,650 - Mm-hmm. - Okay. 259 00:11:07,220 --> 00:11:09,790 - You call me if you need me. - Okay. 260 00:11:09,820 --> 00:11:11,120 Thank you, hun. 261 00:11:41,050 --> 00:11:42,620 I've figured it out now, I guess. 262 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,290 I don't understand where you are, Deb. 263 00:11:53,730 --> 00:11:56,330 I don't understand what's happening. 264 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:01,220 Maybe I do. I just... 265 00:12:01,470 --> 00:12:04,310 don't want to believe you're a coward. 266 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,140 You promised me this was forever. 267 00:12:08,180 --> 00:12:10,850 We promised that to each other. 268 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,200 Well, I guess you didn't mean it. 269 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:17,180 But I did. 270 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,920 The choices we make show who we are. 271 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,190 I know who you are now, Deb. 272 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,100 Pray for me, at least. 273 00:12:30,130 --> 00:12:31,220 Okay? 274 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,100 - _ - 'Cause I'm praying for you. 275 00:12:36,890 --> 00:12:37,960 Try it again. 276 00:12:37,970 --> 00:12:39,560 ♪ Two... one, two, three ♪ 277 00:12:39,570 --> 00:12:41,330 Tuck that... 278 00:12:41,390 --> 00:12:43,390 Coming back down. 279 00:12:43,450 --> 00:12:44,780 Okay, keep going. 280 00:12:44,810 --> 00:12:46,150 I'll be right back. 281 00:12:53,420 --> 00:12:54,940 - Hello? - Hi, Mom, it's Cindi. 282 00:12:54,950 --> 00:12:55,990 Hi! 283 00:12:56,010 --> 00:12:58,360 - Are you teaching all day? - Yes... uh, yeah. 284 00:12:58,390 --> 00:13:00,830 - Most of the day, yeah. - Think you can take a break? 285 00:13:00,860 --> 00:13:03,030 Um, about noon. 286 00:13:03,060 --> 00:13:04,960 Uh, I could maybe move one of my students. 287 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:06,350 No, noon is good. 288 00:13:06,370 --> 00:13:08,530 I just want to tell you what's happening. 289 00:13:08,570 --> 00:13:10,330 Okay, well... well, come hungry. 290 00:13:10,370 --> 00:13:12,870 - I'll make us a special lunch. - I'll see you at 12:00. 291 00:13:12,890 --> 00:13:14,070 - I love you. - Okay. 292 00:13:14,090 --> 00:13:15,450 You, too. Bye. 293 00:13:43,970 --> 00:13:46,770 Oh, Cindi, Cindi, Cindi. 294 00:13:51,210 --> 00:13:53,710 - Oh, Megan. - Sorry I'm early. 295 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:55,780 My mom had to drop me off... 296 00:13:55,820 --> 00:13:57,370 Oh, that's fine, honey. 297 00:13:57,390 --> 00:13:59,330 - That's fine, I was just... - Is Mom here? 298 00:13:59,370 --> 00:14:00,940 No, Toby, honey, I'm sorry. 299 00:14:00,970 --> 00:14:02,550 No, I... I must have heard her wrong. 300 00:14:02,560 --> 00:14:03,720 Um, I'll send her right in to you 301 00:14:03,740 --> 00:14:05,440 when she gets here, okay? 302 00:14:20,060 --> 00:14:23,460 Did I make it worse for you? 303 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:27,130 Because I liked him so much? 304 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,920 Did I make it harder for you to see who he really was? 305 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,340 No. 306 00:14:36,910 --> 00:14:39,440 Mom, I... I don't think I... 307 00:14:39,580 --> 00:14:42,280 ever saw who he really was. 308 00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:44,610 What the kids told me... 309 00:14:44,650 --> 00:14:47,250 what they found out is... is just unbelievable. 310 00:14:47,270 --> 00:14:50,440 - Mm-hmm. - I... I can't wrap my mind around it. 311 00:14:52,690 --> 00:14:54,360 You know... 312 00:14:54,390 --> 00:14:58,190 there was something that I felt around him. 313 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:01,830 I don't know, something... 314 00:15:01,860 --> 00:15:03,860 missing in him, you know? 315 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:05,520 Yeah. 316 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,520 Honesty. 317 00:15:11,070 --> 00:15:13,480 That was it. 318 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,510 Oh, we're laughing about it. 319 00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:22,820 Oh, my goodness. 320 00:15:24,750 --> 00:15:27,540 But you know, that thing that I felt... 321 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:31,530 I... it never was about you, Debbie. 322 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,460 Always thought he loved you. 323 00:15:40,140 --> 00:15:41,540 I did too. 324 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:45,560 I still... I still kinda do. 325 00:15:45,810 --> 00:15:47,340 Is that crazy? 326 00:15:47,380 --> 00:15:49,520 No, 'cause you're wonderful. 327 00:15:49,750 --> 00:15:52,280 How could he not love you? 328 00:15:55,620 --> 00:15:57,220 Oh, I don't know. 329 00:15:57,250 --> 00:16:00,140 Is it worse or better to know that... 330 00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:03,540 he did this to women before you? 331 00:16:05,390 --> 00:16:07,480 You know, he didn't... 332 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,290 he didn't do anything to me, really, except lie. 333 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:13,300 But to lie... 334 00:16:13,340 --> 00:16:15,770 about being in prison? 335 00:16:15,810 --> 00:16:18,910 - I know. - Stalking women and... and... 336 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,910 Oh, my goodness, he's not even a doctor. 337 00:16:22,950 --> 00:16:25,310 I mean, what... what kind of a person does that? 338 00:16:25,350 --> 00:16:28,080 What... what must be, you know, 339 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,380 inside him to do something like that? 340 00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:32,920 - I don't know. - Well... 341 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:34,320 how could you know? 342 00:16:34,370 --> 00:16:35,540 How could you? 343 00:16:37,190 --> 00:16:40,290 But I do wonder, you know, 'cause... 344 00:16:40,330 --> 00:16:43,300 nobody's without sin. 345 00:16:43,330 --> 00:16:45,120 And... 346 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:46,970 everybody can be saved. 347 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,900 You say it all the time. 348 00:16:48,940 --> 00:16:50,240 You know, nobody's perfect. 349 00:16:50,270 --> 00:16:52,640 Everybody has something. 350 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,480 But, Debbie, you... you didn't do anything 351 00:16:55,510 --> 00:16:57,650 to deserve this. 352 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,350 What did you do to... to deserve for... 353 00:17:00,380 --> 00:17:02,850 for him to hurt you like that? 354 00:17:02,890 --> 00:17:05,620 To betray you. 355 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,160 - I don't know. - You did nothing. 356 00:17:08,190 --> 00:17:09,600 You did nothing. 357 00:17:09,620 --> 00:17:11,620 I know. 358 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:16,860 Are you Mrs. Hart? 359 00:17:16,900 --> 00:17:19,600 - Arlane Hart? - Yes. 360 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,140 Could we come in? 361 00:17:21,170 --> 00:17:23,300 O... of course. 362 00:17:26,580 --> 00:17:28,760 You did nothing wrong. 363 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:31,510 Thank God you found out now. 364 00:17:31,550 --> 00:17:33,980 Thank God that you're away from him. 365 00:17:34,020 --> 00:17:36,720 'Cause I couldn't lose 366 00:17:36,750 --> 00:17:37,770 another daughter. 367 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,850 I can't, I can't. 368 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,660 Are you home alone, Mrs. Hart? 369 00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:47,700 N... no, no. 370 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:49,770 My grandson, he's... he's watching TV. 371 00:17:49,790 --> 00:17:51,620 He's... he's 11. 372 00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:55,740 What... what is it? 373 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:58,040 Ma'am... 374 00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:59,640 there's been a shooting. 375 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:03,380 What, is it... is it Bobby? 376 00:18:03,410 --> 00:18:06,210 Is it Bobby who's been... who's been shot? 377 00:18:06,250 --> 00:18:09,620 Ma'am, your daughter, Cindi Sellars, has been shot. 378 00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:12,150 Oh... 379 00:18:12,190 --> 00:18:14,940 uh, how... how bad is she? 380 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:16,720 I'm sorry. She... 381 00:18:16,780 --> 00:18:18,820 She didn't make it. 382 00:18:20,060 --> 00:18:22,860 Your son-in-law shot your daughter... 383 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:24,480 And then he shot himself. 384 00:18:24,490 --> 00:18:25,640 O-oh... 385 00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,870 Is... is he dead? 386 00:18:29,910 --> 00:18:32,340 No, he shot himself in the chest area. 387 00:18:32,380 --> 00:18:35,540 He's at the hospital in custody. 388 00:18:37,380 --> 00:18:40,210 I... I... 389 00:18:40,250 --> 00:18:43,080 I... I have... 390 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,740 Oh, please, help me. 391 00:19:06,010 --> 00:19:09,700 Oh, please. Oh, please. 392 00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:17,520 I... I can do this. 393 00:19:17,550 --> 00:19:19,760 I'm not alone. 394 00:19:20,660 --> 00:19:22,560 I can do this. 395 00:19:28,050 --> 00:19:29,650 Could it be Mr. Rogers? 396 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,220 You're in the neighborhood. 397 00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:36,150 Have a seat. 398 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,030 Toby? 399 00:19:41,060 --> 00:19:42,210 Hi, sweetie. 400 00:19:42,230 --> 00:19:46,230 - You are the first lad... - Something's happened. 401 00:19:48,340 --> 00:19:51,370 Something terrible has happened. 402 00:19:51,410 --> 00:19:54,210 - Why are policemen here? - Um... 403 00:19:54,540 --> 00:19:57,380 well, they... they came to tell me... 404 00:19:57,460 --> 00:20:00,570 that your father has shot 405 00:20:00,580 --> 00:20:02,240 and killed your mother. 406 00:20:02,730 --> 00:20:06,330 That she is dead. 407 00:20:06,570 --> 00:20:08,300 Y... your Daddy's okay. 408 00:20:08,340 --> 00:20:10,770 He... he shot himself, too, but he's okay. 409 00:20:10,810 --> 00:20:12,280 He's not dead. 410 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,060 He's in the hospital right now. 411 00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:26,290 It's okay. We can do this. 412 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:29,840 But we have to be strong. 413 00:20:29,860 --> 00:20:31,660 So strong. 414 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:33,830 It's gonna be so, so hard... 415 00:20:33,860 --> 00:20:35,560 but Jesus will help us. 416 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,470 And we have each other, and we have Him, 417 00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:41,070 and we will get through this together. 418 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,340 All of us. 419 00:20:44,340 --> 00:20:46,910 And, um... okay. 420 00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:49,310 I... I have to... 421 00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:51,650 I have to go... 422 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,270 make some phone... some phone calls, 423 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:57,820 and so you watch a little more TV, okay? 424 00:20:57,850 --> 00:21:01,120 And I will come back in a bit and get you. 425 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,090 Okay, love bug? 426 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,360 I can be strong with you, Grandma. 427 00:21:09,970 --> 00:21:12,670 Mm. I know you can, my sweet boy. 428 00:21:23,310 --> 00:21:25,310 The good news is, you're free of him now. 429 00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:27,550 You know, you're here, you're safe. 430 00:21:27,580 --> 00:21:30,380 That's all I care about. 431 00:21:30,950 --> 00:21:32,380 Thank you. 432 00:21:35,390 --> 00:21:37,630 Some of the stuff me and Ronnie found out 433 00:21:37,660 --> 00:21:40,360 about this guy? 434 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,630 He's a con man, you know? 435 00:21:42,670 --> 00:21:45,490 He wanted money for drugs and all that stuff 436 00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,470 but he was more than that. 437 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,340 What he really wants is for people 438 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:51,940 to remember him. 439 00:21:51,980 --> 00:21:53,470 He wanted these women 440 00:21:53,510 --> 00:21:56,480 to live in fear of him, which is crazy. 441 00:21:57,060 --> 00:21:59,650 That'd be like the one thing that I would ask him about 442 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,850 if I ever saw him again, you know? 443 00:22:01,890 --> 00:22:03,920 "Why?" 444 00:22:05,660 --> 00:22:07,960 Not that'd ever explain himself to me. 445 00:22:07,990 --> 00:22:09,320 I don't know. 446 00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:10,990 He might. 447 00:22:11,030 --> 00:22:12,520 Mm. 448 00:22:12,580 --> 00:22:15,960 He said this one woman was like his project. 449 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,470 Did you feel that way? 450 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,470 No. 451 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:27,510 No, I just... 452 00:22:27,540 --> 00:22:29,510 felt like he loved me. 453 00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:34,380 I mean, he's one heck of a liar, right? 454 00:22:34,510 --> 00:22:37,100 I'm sure part of it's true, you know. 455 00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:39,170 He must have felt that way a little bit 456 00:22:39,210 --> 00:22:42,240 to convince people like that. 457 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,490 Like you. 458 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,780 I could never really understand... 459 00:22:51,820 --> 00:22:54,320 what happened to Mom, you know. 460 00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:56,920 Why, uh... 461 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,960 why Dad did that thing to her. 462 00:22:59,990 --> 00:23:02,290 Because he loved her too much? 463 00:23:04,660 --> 00:23:07,330 Sometimes I still don't understand, you know? 464 00:23:07,370 --> 00:23:10,300 - Mm. - But... 465 00:23:10,340 --> 00:23:12,840 this thing with John... 466 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:15,770 why he does these things... 467 00:23:15,810 --> 00:23:17,940 it almost makes that seem simple. 468 00:23:31,550 --> 00:23:34,170 Over here. You got ten minutes. 469 00:24:00,630 --> 00:24:02,590 I'm so sorry. 470 00:24:03,220 --> 00:24:05,630 I am so, so sorry. 471 00:24:08,230 --> 00:24:10,360 When... when you would come and... 472 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,570 and talk to me about... 473 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:16,610 Did you already know you were gonna do it? 474 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:19,870 Yes. 475 00:24:21,410 --> 00:24:24,480 To myself, um... 476 00:24:24,650 --> 00:24:26,590 I wanted to do it to myself. 477 00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:28,970 Not to her. 478 00:24:29,010 --> 00:24:32,680 I mean, not her. Not ever. 479 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,920 How are you? 480 00:24:33,950 --> 00:24:37,250 You're wearing... 481 00:24:39,430 --> 00:24:41,070 It doesn't matter. 482 00:24:43,460 --> 00:24:46,630 Do you still want to die? 483 00:24:46,670 --> 00:24:48,630 Yes, but... 484 00:24:48,770 --> 00:24:50,650 I don't deserve to. 485 00:24:52,010 --> 00:24:54,260 I should live every day 486 00:24:54,270 --> 00:24:57,040 of a long life in here thinking about her. 487 00:25:00,780 --> 00:25:02,650 How's Toby? 488 00:25:03,850 --> 00:25:06,320 Scared. 489 00:25:06,650 --> 00:25:09,550 For you. For... 490 00:25:09,590 --> 00:25:12,590 where you are and what might be happening to you. 491 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,560 You tell him not to be. 492 00:25:14,590 --> 00:25:17,260 You just tell him, "Don't be scared." 493 00:25:18,550 --> 00:25:20,630 You killed my daughter, Bobby. 494 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,300 I hate what you've done. 495 00:25:26,370 --> 00:25:29,410 More than I've ever hated anything in this whole world. 496 00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:34,480 But you loved her. 497 00:25:34,510 --> 00:25:37,250 I know that. 498 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,320 God has given us all of this love 499 00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:41,520 we have for each other. 500 00:25:43,060 --> 00:25:45,960 Long ago, he showed us who you are. 501 00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:47,960 So we love you. 502 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,530 Still. 503 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:55,830 We all do. 504 00:25:55,870 --> 00:25:57,770 Still. 505 00:26:01,910 --> 00:26:04,690 How... how can you say that? 506 00:26:22,030 --> 00:26:24,660 Can any hide himself in secret places 507 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:26,930 that I shall not see him? 508 00:26:35,170 --> 00:26:38,670 In the Lord we have redemption through His blood. 509 00:26:40,950 --> 00:26:43,410 The forgiveness of our trespasses... 510 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:48,650 According to the riches of His grace. 511 00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:25,000 Deb, I'm sorry. 512 00:27:25,790 --> 00:27:27,730 I am so... 513 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,100 - so sorry. - No. 514 00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:31,020 I don't want to hear anything... 515 00:27:33,270 --> 00:27:35,080 from you except... 516 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:41,080 I want to know. 517 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,280 What do you want to know? 518 00:27:44,310 --> 00:27:47,020 What do you want to know? 519 00:27:58,730 --> 00:28:01,040 Why'd you do all that? 520 00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:04,760 You heard what I told... 521 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,270 the Sergeant. 522 00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:09,800 About the drugs. 523 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,940 The pain management program. 524 00:28:15,510 --> 00:28:17,710 There's no... 525 00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:20,010 I'm the program. 526 00:28:21,620 --> 00:28:23,120 I'm an addict. 527 00:28:25,990 --> 00:28:28,550 I'm in pain all the time. 528 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,896 - Oh, yeah, from shrapnel. - No one ever helped me. 529 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,660 - You said from shrapnel... - I know. 530 00:28:31,690 --> 00:28:33,730 That hit the Jeep and took out guys 531 00:28:33,740 --> 00:28:36,400 - you were working with in Iraq. - I know. 532 00:28:36,430 --> 00:28:38,400 - I know. - You said... you said 533 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,910 you had a nursing degree and a... 534 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:43,690 a structure PhD that made you an MD. 535 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,550 You're not a doctor, John. 536 00:28:45,650 --> 00:28:47,990 I don't know. It was easier, lazier. 537 00:28:48,010 --> 00:28:49,130 My ego, whatever. 538 00:28:49,170 --> 00:28:50,790 To say "doctor," I just... 539 00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:53,570 you're so successful, and I wanted... 540 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,946 - I just wanted... - So it's my fault? 541 00:28:54,970 --> 00:28:56,430 - ... to be great for you. - So now this is my fault 542 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,130 - that you... that you lied to me? - I wanted to be great for you. 543 00:28:59,190 --> 00:29:01,350 You're not a nurse, you're not a doctor. 544 00:29:01,370 --> 00:29:02,750 - You don't have any... - No, that's not true. 545 00:29:02,770 --> 00:29:04,610 - Any license. - That's not true. 546 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,000 I had an appeal with the California medical board 547 00:29:08,010 --> 00:29:10,110 last October, and they granted me 548 00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:12,530 a conditional license... just... only in this state... 549 00:29:12,570 --> 00:29:14,566 so I could keep working until things got cleared up. 550 00:29:14,590 --> 00:29:16,540 So whoever told you that, they... 551 00:29:16,550 --> 00:29:18,450 - they do not have the latest result... - You know what... 552 00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:20,060 - ... from the medical appeals board. - I don't even care about that. 553 00:29:20,070 --> 00:29:21,080 You know, I wanna know about 554 00:29:21,090 --> 00:29:23,600 all the other things way back before that. 555 00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:25,150 What other things? 556 00:29:25,230 --> 00:29:27,200 "What other things?" 557 00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:29,190 You tell me, John. 558 00:29:29,210 --> 00:29:31,190 Those papers in the drawer? 559 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,020 You went in the office. 560 00:29:36,060 --> 00:29:37,890 You saw what was in the office. 561 00:29:37,930 --> 00:29:40,490 - Oh, God. - Yeah. 562 00:29:40,530 --> 00:29:43,160 I saw that stuff. What was that stuff? 563 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,120 My ex, Tonia. 564 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,640 She was having an affair. 565 00:29:51,670 --> 00:29:54,180 She got the divorce to be with him. 566 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,860 He got bored, so she pretended 567 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,040 to be scared of me. 568 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,550 She filed a restraining order just to show him. 569 00:30:00,580 --> 00:30:02,750 - Just to keep him interested. - There's so many 570 00:30:02,780 --> 00:30:06,020 - restraining orders. - They are not me! 571 00:30:06,050 --> 00:30:08,270 They're people with, like, a similar name... 572 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,250 Well, then how come cops and lawyers 573 00:30:10,260 --> 00:30:12,190 and people that, you know, 574 00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:16,700 get paid to find these things out, they... 575 00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:18,700 - they say they are you. - I have asked myself 576 00:30:18,730 --> 00:30:20,120 that question so many times. 577 00:30:20,180 --> 00:30:21,200 I don't know the answer. 578 00:30:21,210 --> 00:30:23,540 I mean, maybe the people that, you know, 579 00:30:23,570 --> 00:30:25,650 put the information in do it wrong. 580 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:27,840 I don't know, but you do a database search 581 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,960 and they all come up. 582 00:30:28,970 --> 00:30:31,180 I tried to get a lawyer to, like, separate me 583 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,450 from them, expunge them. 584 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,240 You can do that if you can afford a lawyer, 585 00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:35,760 but I couldn't. 586 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360 I found so many other things, John. 587 00:30:46,820 --> 00:30:49,000 What about the cops in Laguna? 588 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,060 They said you... you tried to kill them. 589 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,090 Come on. 590 00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:53,630 No charges were ever filed. 591 00:30:53,670 --> 00:30:55,720 Just because someone files a report doesn't mean 592 00:30:55,740 --> 00:30:57,200 that's what happened. 593 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,220 It's nothing. 594 00:31:01,170 --> 00:31:03,350 Once you're in the system, the cops, they just keep 595 00:31:03,370 --> 00:31:05,190 pulling your chain. 596 00:31:05,230 --> 00:31:06,280 You're the bad guy. 597 00:31:06,290 --> 00:31:09,170 It's so easy for them, and, you know... 598 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,700 No one stops them 599 00:31:11,740 --> 00:31:14,340 or checks on them. 600 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:18,270 Did you build a gun? 601 00:31:18,590 --> 00:31:21,190 The police say they found knives, 602 00:31:21,230 --> 00:31:23,170 they found cyanide. 603 00:31:23,380 --> 00:31:25,190 Why would you have cyanide? 604 00:31:27,790 --> 00:31:31,130 I wasn't gonna tell you this stuff because... 605 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,470 So much of what I thought 606 00:31:35,530 --> 00:31:38,260 I had done to myself... 607 00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:40,810 with the drugs... the numbness, 608 00:31:40,850 --> 00:31:42,770 the tingling, the... 609 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,100 the balance, everything... 610 00:31:47,140 --> 00:31:49,230 It turns out it was MS. 611 00:31:52,180 --> 00:31:55,250 Which is impossible to treat, 612 00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:59,250 so I told myself... 613 00:32:01,990 --> 00:32:04,590 That if it ever got too much 614 00:32:04,620 --> 00:32:06,720 that the cyanide would help me. 615 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,590 And it did help me just knowing that I had it. 616 00:32:13,930 --> 00:32:17,230 But I'd have done that I would never have met you. 617 00:32:19,770 --> 00:32:22,340 After Tonia got me arrested... 618 00:32:22,370 --> 00:32:25,270 when I was awaiting trial, 619 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,080 I went to a motel... 620 00:32:29,610 --> 00:32:31,290 With my med bag... 621 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,590 And a bottle of vodka... 622 00:32:40,790 --> 00:32:43,630 But I didn't have the right sized syringe, 623 00:32:43,660 --> 00:32:46,000 so I didn't die. 624 00:32:46,030 --> 00:32:48,530 I passed out and I fell off the bed 625 00:32:48,650 --> 00:32:50,230 and I woke up... 626 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,340 Covered in blood from the bottle 627 00:32:57,430 --> 00:32:58,820 waiting for someone to find me. 628 00:32:58,860 --> 00:33:00,860 I told you it was shrapnel... 629 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,360 but I'm the shrapnel. 630 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,530 The drugs... 631 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,570 They explode me. 632 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,880 They make me lie, 633 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:13,270 they make me steal... 634 00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:15,140 and they make me hurt the people 635 00:33:15,180 --> 00:33:17,340 that I love the most. 636 00:33:18,810 --> 00:33:21,380 Especially you. 637 00:33:21,550 --> 00:33:24,420 Can I just say one thing before you go? 638 00:33:26,490 --> 00:33:29,720 All those times that I said that you deserve the best? 639 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,360 I meant it. 640 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,380 You're incredible. 641 00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:37,900 I lied. I lied about me, 642 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,930 about my past, about my job... 643 00:33:45,380 --> 00:33:46,870 But not about you. 644 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,380 I never lied about how much I love you, Deb. 645 00:34:10,900 --> 00:34:12,930 Hey, uh, we don't have 646 00:34:12,970 --> 00:34:15,000 a receptionist right at the moment. 647 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,040 She, um... who is your appointment with? 648 00:34:18,070 --> 00:34:19,840 I'm here to see Gregory Reedus. 649 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,260 Oh, that's me. Hi. 650 00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:23,560 - Hi. - Greg. 651 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,900 I'm Arlane Hart. 652 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,050 I'm Cindi Sellars' mother. 653 00:34:29,090 --> 00:34:31,850 Yeah, I know who you, um... 654 00:34:31,890 --> 00:34:34,060 I can't, uh, talk to you. 655 00:34:34,090 --> 00:34:36,020 - Mr. Reedus... - I'm really sorry, but I... 656 00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:37,460 - I can't. - Mr. Reedus, you have 657 00:34:37,490 --> 00:34:38,776 - to let me... - Maybe you're confused, 658 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,560 which is normal and it's fine, 659 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:44,230 but, uh, Lisa Usher at the DA's office, she, uh... 660 00:34:44,270 --> 00:34:47,570 she would be the one who you should, uh, talk to. 661 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,820 I... I know whose lawyer you are. 662 00:34:50,110 --> 00:34:52,710 Okay, so... 663 00:34:52,740 --> 00:34:55,180 then why are you here? 664 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,580 - Mom, it's me. - Uh, hi, hun. 665 00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:05,890 - Hi! - Hi. 666 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,820 - I got you a chai latte. - Thank you. 667 00:35:08,860 --> 00:35:11,330 My God, this room is even uglier in daylight. 668 00:35:12,930 --> 00:35:15,560 - What were you doing? - Oh, you know, 669 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,270 I'm trying to get some work done. 670 00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:21,400 - Nice. - What's that? 671 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,000 Oh, it's a GPS tracker. 672 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,170 I put it on your car at Christmas. 673 00:35:25,210 --> 00:35:27,700 - You put it on my car? - Yeah. 674 00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:30,900 - To follow John, remember? - Oh. 675 00:35:30,930 --> 00:35:33,230 - No, I did not remember. - Yeah, I said that one of us 676 00:35:33,270 --> 00:35:34,880 should put one on there, and you said if it would 677 00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:36,450 make me happy I should do it... 678 00:35:36,470 --> 00:35:38,450 So I did. 679 00:35:38,460 --> 00:35:41,910 Well, I... I don't think I was serious, Ronnie. 680 00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:43,890 Well, okay. 681 00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:46,780 I mean, it didn't show anything that weird, so... 682 00:35:47,570 --> 00:35:49,860 Anyway, I forgot to take it off your car so I did that 683 00:35:49,890 --> 00:35:51,150 this morning. 684 00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:52,570 Thank you. 685 00:35:52,580 --> 00:35:53,910 Mm-hmm. 686 00:35:55,090 --> 00:35:57,220 - Did you get the annulment? - Yep. 687 00:35:57,260 --> 00:35:59,420 Yeah, I did. I... I, you know, signed all 688 00:35:59,430 --> 00:36:01,260 the paperwork, and... 689 00:36:01,290 --> 00:36:02,490 - Good. - Mm-hmm. 690 00:36:02,530 --> 00:36:03,890 What about the will? 691 00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:05,930 I changed the will 692 00:36:05,950 --> 00:36:08,480 and had it notarized, so... 693 00:36:09,230 --> 00:36:11,910 God damn, who is texting you so much? 694 00:36:11,950 --> 00:36:13,500 Oh. 695 00:36:13,540 --> 00:36:14,920 Well, I mean, I'm not in the office so, you know, 696 00:36:14,940 --> 00:36:17,240 they're just trying to track me down. 697 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,310 Yep. Speaking of which... 698 00:36:21,450 --> 00:36:22,680 I should go. 699 00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,220 Thanks for coming by, sweetie. 700 00:36:24,250 --> 00:36:25,890 - Of course. - Mm. 701 00:36:25,930 --> 00:36:27,190 It's nice. 702 00:36:27,220 --> 00:36:28,820 Oh. 703 00:36:28,860 --> 00:36:30,900 I love you so much. 704 00:36:30,910 --> 00:36:32,910 I love you, too. So much. 705 00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:35,660 Okay, but you're squishing me now. 706 00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:37,060 Oh. 707 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,100 God, that was quite the squeeze. 708 00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:41,320 Well, I love you. 709 00:36:41,350 --> 00:36:42,650 Yeah. I'll see you later. 710 00:36:42,690 --> 00:36:44,950 Remember, we're FaceTiming with Terra at 3:00. 711 00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:46,590 - Oh, yes. - So I'll see you then, right? 712 00:36:46,620 --> 00:36:47,670 Okay. 713 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,720 Thank you for this... for the chai. 714 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:51,690 - Bye. - Bye. 715 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,020 - Ma'am. - Thank you. 716 00:37:56,990 --> 00:37:59,190 When was the last time you spoke to Bobby 717 00:37:59,230 --> 00:38:00,860 prior to the incident? 718 00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:03,060 That morning, actually, at our house. 719 00:38:03,140 --> 00:38:04,656 He and Toby were staying at our house. 720 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,860 When was the last time that you spoke to Bobby 721 00:38:06,870 --> 00:38:10,550 about the state of his and Cindi's marriage? 722 00:38:10,590 --> 00:38:13,860 Um, that was Wednesday the fourth. 723 00:38:13,890 --> 00:38:15,790 Three days before. 724 00:38:15,830 --> 00:38:17,630 What's he like in that conversation? 725 00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:20,060 What's his demeanor? 726 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:22,330 Oh, he was so upset 727 00:38:22,370 --> 00:38:25,970 and... and crying so hard. 728 00:38:26,010 --> 00:38:28,540 He just felt that things were over between them 729 00:38:28,570 --> 00:38:30,510 and he was so lost. 730 00:38:30,540 --> 00:38:32,340 How long had you been aware, 731 00:38:32,380 --> 00:38:34,810 uh, that the marriage was in trouble? 732 00:38:34,850 --> 00:38:38,100 By the time Cindi spoke to us 733 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,550 it seemed as if things were already very bad. 734 00:38:40,590 --> 00:38:43,320 But when Bobby spoke to me... 735 00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,290 um, he seemed completely 736 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,390 taken by surprise. 737 00:38:47,430 --> 00:38:48,890 Completely surprised, 738 00:38:48,930 --> 00:38:52,060 and he wanted to save it. 739 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,930 Because he loved her. 740 00:38:53,970 --> 00:38:55,870 Oh, so much. 741 00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,100 He loved her so much. 742 00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:00,270 Did he tell you any of the things 743 00:39:00,310 --> 00:39:02,570 that he had done to try 744 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,680 and save the marriage? 745 00:39:05,710 --> 00:39:08,380 He, um, had changed some of his behavior. 746 00:39:08,410 --> 00:39:10,950 Um, he went to see 747 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,620 our pastor with her. 748 00:39:12,650 --> 00:39:16,120 They went to counseling... months of counseling. 749 00:39:16,460 --> 00:39:18,690 Um, he agreed to a separation, 750 00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,960 agreed to sell their house. 751 00:39:20,990 --> 00:39:24,030 You know, to live separately for perspective 752 00:39:24,060 --> 00:39:26,100 and for... 753 00:39:26,130 --> 00:39:28,570 absence to make her heart 754 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,270 grow fonder. 755 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:32,300 And, um... 756 00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:34,180 and he spoke to me. 757 00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:37,910 You can imagine, a man having to come 758 00:39:37,940 --> 00:39:40,110 to his mother-in-law for help... 759 00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:42,780 and to cry in front of her. 760 00:39:42,820 --> 00:39:46,120 And did any of the things that he tried work? 761 00:39:48,990 --> 00:39:50,390 No. 762 00:39:50,420 --> 00:39:53,740 Um, he was doing it thinking that he could... 763 00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:57,090 if he did, he could keep Cindi with him, but... 764 00:39:57,130 --> 00:40:00,700 you know, I... I don't think he ever had a chance, 765 00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,730 and when he came to realize that... 766 00:40:04,770 --> 00:40:06,180 Prior to the incident, 767 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,470 how did you feel about Bobby? 768 00:40:09,510 --> 00:40:11,510 Oh, I... I loved him. 769 00:40:11,540 --> 00:40:12,920 Loved him very much. 770 00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:15,910 He had such a pure heart. 771 00:40:15,950 --> 00:40:18,950 I mean, his... his whole life was Cindi and Toby. 772 00:40:18,990 --> 00:40:22,020 Um, working for their family, their life together 773 00:40:22,050 --> 00:40:24,220 as a... as a family. 774 00:40:25,190 --> 00:40:27,560 How do you feel about him now? 775 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:30,960 I still love him. 776 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,180 You love him. 777 00:40:33,830 --> 00:40:36,100 - I do. - Even after everything 778 00:40:36,140 --> 00:40:37,500 that happened? 779 00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:42,510 Bobby asked me the same question. 780 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:44,840 Because it's very difficult to understand, 781 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,880 if not impossible. 782 00:40:49,050 --> 00:40:51,350 Bobby did a... a terrible thing. 783 00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:56,240 The worst thing. 784 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,260 I hate what he did. 785 00:41:00,290 --> 00:41:03,140 And I told him that, I... I did. 786 00:41:04,330 --> 00:41:06,880 But if he had been in his right mind 787 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:08,260 he could never have done that. 788 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,600 So what he did doesn't... 789 00:41:13,770 --> 00:41:16,220 doesn't change what I believe about him. 790 00:41:20,380 --> 00:41:21,660 I can still love Bobby, 791 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,260 and I forgive him... 792 00:41:24,550 --> 00:41:26,940 because I want to forgive him. 793 00:41:27,590 --> 00:41:30,260 Because of what I know. 794 00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,160 I know... 795 00:41:34,190 --> 00:41:36,860 his heart was full of love. 796 00:41:39,730 --> 00:41:41,370 He just... 797 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,300 he just lost his way. 798 00:42:31,060 --> 00:42:34,880 - Synced & corrected by MementMori - -- www.addic7ed.com -- 55460

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