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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:12,350 --> 00:00:14,270 [siren wailing] 2 00:00:16,470 --> 00:00:19,670 [Sharma, in Hindi] There has always been crime in Mumbai. 3 00:00:20,350 --> 00:00:22,270 It's ever present. 4 00:00:24,070 --> 00:00:25,950 In the 1990s, 5 00:00:26,030 --> 00:00:30,910 the underworld was fighting for control over Mumbai… 6 00:00:32,190 --> 00:00:34,110 [in English] and they were very violent. 7 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:40,630 [in Hindi] A couple came to the police station. 8 00:00:40,710 --> 00:00:43,750 They said, "Sir, we were tied up in our home at night 9 00:00:44,510 --> 00:00:50,870 and two gangsters held us at gunpoint, emptied our house and left. " 10 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:59,510 These two gangsters had many cases filed against them by the police, 11 00:00:59,590 --> 00:01:03,590 from murder to rape, house robbery, everything. 12 00:01:05,950 --> 00:01:07,710 They were contract killers. 13 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:11,190 [phone ringing] 14 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:15,830 One day, out of the blue, we get a call. 15 00:01:16,630 --> 00:01:18,790 These guys are at a house evicting people… 16 00:01:22,190 --> 00:01:23,510 [in English] forcibly. 17 00:01:23,590 --> 00:01:25,710 [siren wailing] 18 00:01:30,430 --> 00:01:32,190 [thunder rumbling] 19 00:01:36,950 --> 00:01:38,750 [in Hindi] As soon as we got there, 20 00:01:39,430 --> 00:01:40,950 one of them fires at us. 21 00:01:41,030 --> 00:01:42,230 [gun firing] 22 00:01:46,430 --> 00:01:48,350 The other one took out his weapon… 23 00:01:50,430 --> 00:01:52,230 and attacked a constable. 24 00:01:59,030 --> 00:02:00,110 [gun firing] 25 00:02:07,710 --> 00:02:09,710 [thunder rumbling] 26 00:02:12,070 --> 00:02:15,230 I shot both of them, three bullets each. 27 00:02:15,310 --> 00:02:17,190 [in English] They were declared dead. 28 00:02:18,950 --> 00:02:20,790 [in Hindi] That was my first encounter. 29 00:02:26,230 --> 00:02:28,150 [siren wailing] 30 00:02:29,630 --> 00:02:33,230 [reporter 1, in English] Police shot three gangsters in the business district. 31 00:02:34,870 --> 00:02:37,710 [reporter 2] The Bombay police have shot dead 32 00:02:37,790 --> 00:02:40,390 more than 40 gangsters in the last two months. 33 00:02:43,150 --> 00:02:45,990 [reporter 3] Encounter policemen, heroes and saviors. 34 00:02:47,790 --> 00:02:50,670 -[siren wailing] -[camera shutter clicking] 35 00:02:50,750 --> 00:02:53,750 [in Hindi] The press called me "Fastest gun in the West. " 36 00:02:56,430 --> 00:02:58,750 [in English] Who chases after whom? 37 00:02:58,830 --> 00:03:00,830 [reporter 4] Pradeep Sharma. 104 encounters. 38 00:03:00,910 --> 00:03:02,510 -No, sir! -Stand up! 39 00:03:02,590 --> 00:03:04,470 We have to clean them from our society. 40 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:05,790 [guns firing] 41 00:03:05,870 --> 00:03:07,790 [reporter 4] Encounter specialists, 42 00:03:07,870 --> 00:03:10,510 heroes with Bollywood films centered around them. 43 00:03:10,590 --> 00:03:12,750 [in Hindi] People say you are bigger superstars 44 00:03:12,830 --> 00:03:14,550 than the film stars who play you. 45 00:03:14,630 --> 00:03:17,550 -[reporter 3] Dirty Harrys of Mumbai… -[Ribeiro] Criminals in uniform. 46 00:03:17,630 --> 00:03:19,430 [reporter 5] Mumbai Police's Pradeep Sharma 47 00:03:19,510 --> 00:03:21,630 charged with kidnapping and killing in cold blood. 48 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:26,830 [in Hindi] After killing 112 people, this is the reward I get. 49 00:03:32,870 --> 00:03:35,110 [birds squawking] 50 00:03:40,990 --> 00:03:42,510 [Sharma] I wasn't from Mumbai. 51 00:03:43,710 --> 00:03:45,990 When I looked around, I found everything odd. 52 00:03:46,790 --> 00:03:48,390 [horns honking] 53 00:03:49,670 --> 00:03:51,350 Life in Mumbai is fast. 54 00:03:52,990 --> 00:03:56,310 The biggest difficulty for an outsider in Mumbai 55 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:59,870 is that you sweat a lot here. 56 00:04:02,670 --> 00:04:03,670 There is humidity 57 00:04:05,230 --> 00:04:07,150 and, of course, crime. 58 00:04:07,230 --> 00:04:08,630 [chuckles] 59 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:11,950 [horns blaring] 60 00:04:17,910 --> 00:04:20,550 When I first joined the police… 61 00:04:20,630 --> 00:04:21,670 MAHARASHTRA POLICE 62 00:04:21,750 --> 00:04:23,790 [in English] …my father, he was not happy. 63 00:04:23,870 --> 00:04:28,030 [in Hindi] He'd say, "Live a good life. Become a professor or a scientist. " 64 00:04:28,630 --> 00:04:29,550 But then, 65 00:04:30,430 --> 00:04:32,670 I wouldn't have had such an adventurous life. 66 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:37,470 I didn't know anyone in Mumbai. 67 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:43,030 I had no friends or relatives in Mumbai. 68 00:04:43,550 --> 00:04:45,070 MAHIM POLICE THANE, MUMBAI 69 00:04:45,150 --> 00:04:47,950 That's why I stayed in the police station for 24 hours. 70 00:04:48,670 --> 00:04:51,350 I lived in the police bachelors' quarter. 71 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:56,270 A police officer like me has so much violence in his life. 72 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:59,750 It's a painful job. 73 00:04:59,830 --> 00:05:04,230 But if you have accepted it, then you have to do it. 74 00:05:05,110 --> 00:05:07,510 -[traffic bustling] -[horns blaring] 75 00:05:20,350 --> 00:05:22,670 [dramatic music playing] 76 00:05:28,710 --> 00:05:31,070 [guns firing] 77 00:05:33,590 --> 00:05:36,710 [Tejpal, in English] Films based in Bombay always had gangsters 78 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:38,190 and, you know, the bad guys 79 00:05:38,990 --> 00:05:43,070 because we are the organized crime capital of the country. 80 00:05:46,990 --> 00:05:50,030 For the criminal, this city is absolutely perfect. 81 00:05:50,870 --> 00:05:52,590 Nobody is inquiring. 82 00:05:52,670 --> 00:05:55,070 Nobody wants to know where you're coming from, 83 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:56,670 where you're going. 84 00:05:56,750 --> 00:05:59,750 Nobody is fingering you in this city. They let you be. 85 00:05:59,830 --> 00:06:01,590 [siren wailing] 86 00:06:01,670 --> 00:06:06,710 Organized crime really exploded in the '80s and especially in the '90s. 87 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:08,070 That's when the rules changed, 88 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:11,430 when common people were fucking killed across the city. 89 00:06:16,990 --> 00:06:20,710 This is an organized crime case. It's a serious incident. 90 00:06:20,790 --> 00:06:23,310 He's been shot. I heard it from his son. 91 00:06:23,390 --> 00:06:25,870 [reporter 1] The state government has been criticized 92 00:06:25,950 --> 00:06:29,070 for not doing enough to control hits by the underworld. 93 00:06:29,150 --> 00:06:31,470 The gangsters were doing anything they wanted. 94 00:06:33,230 --> 00:06:35,110 They were getting away with it. 95 00:06:35,190 --> 00:06:36,110 It was fear. 96 00:06:36,350 --> 00:06:37,230 [gun fires] 97 00:06:37,310 --> 00:06:38,190 Real fear. 98 00:06:38,270 --> 00:06:39,310 [sirens wailing] 99 00:06:39,390 --> 00:06:42,910 They had become so strong that they were more powerful than the cops. 100 00:06:56,510 --> 00:06:59,310 [Ravindra Angre, in Hindi] There were a lot of criminals. 101 00:07:01,390 --> 00:07:03,190 Murders happened openly. 102 00:07:03,950 --> 00:07:05,430 No one was safe. 103 00:07:11,110 --> 00:07:13,590 We could not do anything, we were powerless. 104 00:07:14,390 --> 00:07:17,110 Even if someone committed murder and went to jail, 105 00:07:17,950 --> 00:07:20,510 they would get bail and be out in three months. 106 00:07:20,590 --> 00:07:23,470 I didn't like it, but what could I do? 107 00:07:25,710 --> 00:07:29,710 A police officer shooting someone with a revolver 108 00:07:29,790 --> 00:07:32,590 was out of the question. 109 00:07:50,030 --> 00:07:53,070 [Khan, in English] The underworld was getting out of control. 110 00:07:53,910 --> 00:07:56,670 Police were running around like headless chickens. 111 00:07:58,790 --> 00:08:02,350 So, that's when I decided I'm going to get them. 112 00:08:02,430 --> 00:08:04,110 [horns honking] 113 00:08:12,470 --> 00:08:15,950 When I started studying the activities of the gangs, 114 00:08:16,030 --> 00:08:19,470 my main focus was on Dawood Ibrahim. 115 00:08:19,550 --> 00:08:21,550 He was a major don. 116 00:08:23,070 --> 00:08:25,270 Dawood had a gang called D-Company. 117 00:08:28,030 --> 00:08:31,950 We had very few sources of knowing what Dawood is doing. 118 00:08:32,030 --> 00:08:34,350 So we started cultivating informants. 119 00:08:34,990 --> 00:08:36,870 [phone ringing] 120 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:39,910 One of my informants rang us up 121 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:45,750 and said two of Dawood's gangsters were holding a businessman hostage, 122 00:08:46,470 --> 00:08:47,790 and they were armed. 123 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:55,150 We came and apprehended them, and then we started interrogation. 124 00:08:58,390 --> 00:09:01,870 In interrogation, they gave us a tremendous amount of information 125 00:09:01,950 --> 00:09:04,030 about the activities of Dawood's gang. 126 00:09:05,350 --> 00:09:08,750 This organization was operating on a massive scale. 127 00:09:12,430 --> 00:09:14,030 [horns blaring] 128 00:09:20,830 --> 00:09:23,510 [Shyam Kishore] D-Company is like a huge conglomerate. 129 00:09:24,750 --> 00:09:26,950 I would say, at any given time, 130 00:09:27,030 --> 00:09:30,950 D-Company would add on its payroll more than 25,000 people. 131 00:09:33,830 --> 00:09:35,750 It's a big industry. 132 00:09:35,830 --> 00:09:40,950 It's got its hands in almost every pie, from smuggling gold, 133 00:09:41,030 --> 00:09:46,830 silver, electronics, drugs, bootlegging, gambling. 134 00:09:50,150 --> 00:09:51,990 Dawood was very powerful. 135 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:56,390 He was like a king, and I wanted to make it big in Bombay. 136 00:09:57,070 --> 00:09:59,630 That was why I joined hands with the company. 137 00:10:03,470 --> 00:10:06,110 Dawood would call himself a businessman. 138 00:10:06,190 --> 00:10:07,670 [indistinct chatter] 139 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:12,590 But he got to the top mainly because he eliminated all opposition to him. 140 00:10:18,590 --> 00:10:20,830 He would order a killing. 141 00:10:20,910 --> 00:10:24,270 He would want it done with ten, 20 bullets being shot there, 142 00:10:24,350 --> 00:10:26,630 and then people would get scared of him. 143 00:10:28,270 --> 00:10:30,830 That fear factor is what he used to thrive on. 144 00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:34,150 Power flows from the nozzle of a gun, you can say. 145 00:10:40,230 --> 00:10:42,190 [Tejpal] Their big thing was extortion. 146 00:10:42,270 --> 00:10:47,070 Every week, the D-Company would take money from shopkeepers in the area. 147 00:10:47,150 --> 00:10:49,630 Everybody had to pay weekly rental 148 00:10:49,710 --> 00:10:53,390 so that business happens smoothly and nobody comes and busts up your shop. 149 00:10:55,830 --> 00:10:57,350 Anybody who's making money, 150 00:10:57,550 --> 00:11:00,630 whether you're a doctor or a film star or a builder, 151 00:11:01,750 --> 00:11:05,470 you had to pay money to them in order to survive and to stay alive. 152 00:11:05,550 --> 00:11:07,910 They were the unofficial mafia and you had to pay. 153 00:11:07,990 --> 00:11:09,710 [indistinct chatter] 154 00:11:11,630 --> 00:11:14,470 You didn't, next week, boom. You're off, killed. 155 00:11:16,910 --> 00:11:19,910 Dawood and his men were ruthless. 156 00:11:19,990 --> 00:11:21,830 They were extremely dangerous. 157 00:11:22,470 --> 00:11:25,110 So much of drug smuggling in India was the D-Company. 158 00:11:25,910 --> 00:11:27,750 Gold smuggling and prostitution, 159 00:11:27,830 --> 00:11:32,670 organized racket, cricket match corruption, even Bollywood. 160 00:11:34,830 --> 00:11:38,390 In the '90s, it was estimated 500 crores from the underworld 161 00:11:38,470 --> 00:11:40,990 was going into movies being produced. 162 00:11:41,750 --> 00:11:44,510 I mean, this is insane and true. 163 00:11:49,470 --> 00:11:52,950 D-Company not only had their fingers in various pies, 164 00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:55,070 they owned the fucking pie shop. 165 00:11:56,510 --> 00:11:57,870 [horns blaring] 166 00:12:07,070 --> 00:12:10,390 [Sayed, in Hindi] Now there is all this ruckus about Dawood. 167 00:12:11,070 --> 00:12:14,710 I have known him since 1974 when he committed his first robbery. 168 00:12:16,510 --> 00:12:18,270 I used to meet him daily. 169 00:12:18,990 --> 00:12:23,150 I was close friends with his younger brother, Anees. 170 00:12:23,470 --> 00:12:26,990 They weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouth. 171 00:12:29,270 --> 00:12:30,870 They came from struggle. 172 00:12:34,950 --> 00:12:38,110 In the beginning, they didn't have cars, they traveled in taxis. 173 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:44,470 One day, he gets a tip about a rival at National Bar. 174 00:12:46,950 --> 00:12:49,190 He had come there to drink beer. 175 00:13:00,550 --> 00:13:03,350 They chopped off his fingers and nerves. 176 00:13:07,910 --> 00:13:11,590 Dawood's name in the area was "Terror. " 177 00:13:11,670 --> 00:13:13,150 He was known as "Terror. " 178 00:13:14,630 --> 00:13:16,270 [horns blaring] 179 00:13:21,950 --> 00:13:25,870 If a person is murdered in Bombay, people look at the body and walk away. 180 00:13:25,950 --> 00:13:28,830 Because if they go closer, they'll be trapped. 181 00:13:30,390 --> 00:13:33,350 [Khan, in English] Dawood's gangsters terrorized people. 182 00:13:33,430 --> 00:13:37,430 People would not come to the police, and it was going on unchecked. 183 00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:43,150 I decided that I have got to get these fellows, 184 00:13:43,230 --> 00:13:44,590 come what may. 185 00:13:46,070 --> 00:13:48,830 At that time, I had about 32 police stations with me. 186 00:13:51,830 --> 00:13:55,430 I picked out officers based on their reputation. 187 00:13:56,510 --> 00:13:59,110 I wanted officers who were physically fit, 188 00:13:59,190 --> 00:14:03,310 who I felt had the guts enough to fight fire with fire. 189 00:14:08,190 --> 00:14:10,430 If you shoot a criminal, 190 00:14:10,510 --> 00:14:13,350 you're laying yourself open to criminal charges. 191 00:14:13,430 --> 00:14:18,430 You are laying yourself open to retaliation by the gang members. 192 00:14:19,510 --> 00:14:21,950 So no one wanted to take the risk. 193 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:28,150 But I felt that going after Dawood's gangsters 194 00:14:28,710 --> 00:14:31,950 would prove that the police are capable of taking action 195 00:14:32,030 --> 00:14:35,550 and instilled a kind of fear in the underworld. 196 00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:42,550 One of the gangsters that I was looking for was Dilip Buwa. 197 00:14:43,150 --> 00:14:47,950 He was by far the most fearless of Dawood's gang members. 198 00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:52,110 In Mumbai earlier, 199 00:14:52,750 --> 00:14:55,830 Dilip Buwa shot and killed a policeman. 200 00:14:56,390 --> 00:14:58,630 [gun firing] 201 00:15:03,790 --> 00:15:06,710 And he had literally kicked that dead body aside. 202 00:15:07,910 --> 00:15:09,310 [indistinct chatter] 203 00:15:11,070 --> 00:15:12,790 So we started searching. 204 00:15:13,990 --> 00:15:18,510 And one of my informants came forward and he was very secretive. 205 00:15:19,310 --> 00:15:20,630 He'd talk only to me. 206 00:15:23,310 --> 00:15:25,990 There used to be the Sea Rock Hotel at that time. 207 00:15:27,470 --> 00:15:30,750 We parked in the carpark and he quietly came and sat on the backseat. 208 00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:35,950 He informed me that Dilip Buwa had ganged up with Maya Dolas, 209 00:15:36,030 --> 00:15:40,230 a gangster who had escaped from police custody 210 00:15:40,310 --> 00:15:43,310 and they started extortion on a massive scale. 211 00:15:43,390 --> 00:15:46,830 Maya Dolas and Dilip Buwa, who are notorious gangsters, 212 00:15:46,910 --> 00:15:51,350 who, between them, must have committed more than 40 to 45 murders. 213 00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:54,550 My informant said, "I know where these fellows are. " 214 00:15:57,750 --> 00:16:01,070 "At present, they are eating and drinking in Lokhandwala, 215 00:16:02,070 --> 00:16:03,550 and they were armed. " 216 00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:11,550 "Come quickly, because the moment they finish, they'll leave. " 217 00:16:20,030 --> 00:16:24,790 I required 200 policemen to cordon off the area. 218 00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:27,630 We received information 219 00:16:27,710 --> 00:16:30,190 that some of the noted killers from Dawood Ibrahim's gang, 220 00:16:30,270 --> 00:16:34,950 Dilip Buwa and Maya Dolas and several of his henchmen, 221 00:16:35,030 --> 00:16:36,630 they're all armed with AK-47s. 222 00:16:36,710 --> 00:16:40,510 And they were hiding in one Rajwani's flat in this particular building. 223 00:16:40,990 --> 00:16:43,590 [news jingle plays] 224 00:16:45,270 --> 00:16:47,990 [reporter] November 16th, Khan and his men carried out 225 00:16:48,070 --> 00:16:51,150 the biggest operation in the history of the Bombay Police. 226 00:16:51,230 --> 00:16:53,150 Newstrack was there on the spot 227 00:16:53,230 --> 00:16:56,110 and covered the entire operation bullet by bullet. 228 00:16:56,190 --> 00:16:59,190 Here is Minty Tejpal's exclusive first-hand report 229 00:16:59,270 --> 00:17:01,110 of the Saturday afternoon shootout. 230 00:17:01,190 --> 00:17:04,710 Lokhandwala, Bombay. This is Minty Tejpal reporting for Newstrack. 231 00:17:05,190 --> 00:17:07,110 I was working with Newstrack. 232 00:17:07,190 --> 00:17:11,390 My beat was political and terror and threat. 233 00:17:11,470 --> 00:17:15,230 So all my stories were shootout and blood and all that. 234 00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:18,710 At this point, I came to Bombay to do a soft story. 235 00:17:18,790 --> 00:17:20,830 And I was doing a feature on Pooja Bedi. 236 00:17:21,510 --> 00:17:25,310 And just around lunchtime, I noticed a buzz around the crew. 237 00:17:25,390 --> 00:17:28,150 You get that feeling when there's something happening, 238 00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:31,510 and then parallelly I had been hearing too much siren noise 239 00:17:31,590 --> 00:17:32,710 and what the fuck? 240 00:17:32,790 --> 00:17:34,630 [sirens wailing] 241 00:17:37,750 --> 00:17:40,030 And then I hear over the phone, 242 00:17:40,110 --> 00:17:43,270 the unmistakable burst of a AK-47, which I know. 243 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:46,270 I've heard it in Punjab. I fired it with the army. 244 00:17:46,350 --> 00:17:49,670 [machine gun firing] 245 00:17:49,750 --> 00:17:52,190 Then I took a call right there and then, 246 00:17:52,270 --> 00:17:55,790 telling Pooja, "I'm going to pack up and check out what this story is. " 247 00:17:55,870 --> 00:17:59,110 You can't have an AK-47 being fired in Bombay. A pistol, fine. 248 00:17:59,190 --> 00:18:02,870 But AK-47 burst. I heard a burst over the phone. [mimicking rapid gunfire] 249 00:18:02,950 --> 00:18:04,190 Like, "This is something. " 250 00:18:06,310 --> 00:18:10,350 A taxi guy agreed to 500 rupees to drive me from Juhu to Lokhandwala. 251 00:18:11,670 --> 00:18:13,270 I'm saying… [in Hindi] "Come on, go!" 252 00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:15,590 [in English] I'm screaming 'cause something's up. 253 00:18:19,270 --> 00:18:21,830 We take a left and we're suddenly at this complex. 254 00:18:23,390 --> 00:18:27,110 I remember when we moved in, cops ran at us and told us, 255 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:28,990 "Get out. No press. It's dangerous. " 256 00:18:29,070 --> 00:18:31,470 [officer speaking in Marathi] 257 00:18:31,550 --> 00:18:33,550 [man speaking in Hindi] 258 00:18:36,670 --> 00:18:38,790 [Khan, in English] An operation in public, 259 00:18:39,430 --> 00:18:41,350 where there are so many people around, 260 00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:45,310 the worst thing that can happen is an innocent civilian is killed. 261 00:18:46,350 --> 00:18:51,870 The gangsters fired AK-47s randomly, without any control. 262 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:54,990 [in Marathi] Go over this side. 263 00:18:55,070 --> 00:18:58,790 Over this side or your life is in danger. 264 00:18:58,870 --> 00:19:01,270 [Tejpal, in English] The cops wouldn't let us go. 265 00:19:01,350 --> 00:19:02,670 Don't get in on this side. 266 00:19:02,750 --> 00:19:07,550 So I circled around completely like that and got in here, right behind them. 267 00:19:07,670 --> 00:19:10,150 Suddenly, I'm under the building, and I'm rolling. 268 00:19:10,950 --> 00:19:13,190 We're in the middle of the shootout. 269 00:19:13,270 --> 00:19:15,110 [in Hindi] Quick! Get the vehicle! 270 00:19:15,190 --> 00:19:18,590 [in English] Khan's boy said, "You're here, you shouldn't be here. " 271 00:19:18,670 --> 00:19:21,070 "Don't move from here, or you might get shot. " 272 00:19:21,150 --> 00:19:22,310 As simple as that. 273 00:19:25,270 --> 00:19:26,990 [machine guns firing] 274 00:19:30,230 --> 00:19:33,950 [Khan] Maya Dolas was a cocky fellow, a very arrogant fellow. 275 00:19:34,830 --> 00:19:38,790 In fact, he was taunting the police that, "Come and arrest us. " 276 00:19:39,750 --> 00:19:42,470 "Within one hour, we'll get bail and be out. " 277 00:19:42,550 --> 00:19:46,550 So I said, "All right. Now, no holds barred. Let's get them. " 278 00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:49,630 [guns firing] 279 00:19:53,430 --> 00:19:55,310 But we were firing from two sides. 280 00:19:56,670 --> 00:19:58,550 [gunfire continues] 281 00:20:00,350 --> 00:20:04,350 This is in Lokhandwala, you know, in a residential complex. 282 00:20:04,950 --> 00:20:08,790 Gangsters with AK-47s in a shootout with cops in broad daylight. 283 00:20:08,870 --> 00:20:10,150 It's crazy. 284 00:20:13,030 --> 00:20:14,750 [gunfire continues] 285 00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:24,110 How many people are inside? Two, three, four, five… 286 00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:26,750 Fuck! Nobody knew. Even the cops were guessing. 287 00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:31,870 [gunfire continues] 288 00:20:33,150 --> 00:20:35,750 [young Tejpal] Finally at 5:15 in the evening, 289 00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:37,870 there was a last burst of gunfire. 290 00:20:37,950 --> 00:20:40,190 [gunfire continues] 291 00:20:48,190 --> 00:20:49,910 As we went closer to the building, 292 00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:52,910 we saw one mangled body lying on the ground. 293 00:20:52,990 --> 00:20:54,790 [indistinct chatter] 294 00:20:54,870 --> 00:20:58,110 In a four-hour long operation, with over 500 policemen, 295 00:20:58,190 --> 00:20:59,950 1,400 rounds have been fired. 296 00:21:00,550 --> 00:21:03,030 [Tejpal] There were seven gangsters who were dead, 297 00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:04,990 Maya Dolas, Dilip Buwa and five more. 298 00:21:07,550 --> 00:21:10,550 No human being likes to kill another human being. 299 00:21:10,910 --> 00:21:14,550 It goes against everything that you have been taught from childhood. 300 00:21:15,630 --> 00:21:18,030 Respect for human life. But then 301 00:21:19,150 --> 00:21:20,750 the persons I shot, 302 00:21:22,070 --> 00:21:24,390 they had not only shot innocent people, 303 00:21:25,470 --> 00:21:26,870 but they shot policemen. 304 00:21:26,950 --> 00:21:29,190 [Inspector Qavi] One group was headed by me, 305 00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:31,230 which entered from the door. 306 00:21:31,910 --> 00:21:34,470 I was carrying a gun. 307 00:21:34,550 --> 00:21:37,510 It was already cocked. 308 00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:41,070 I said, "Don't move and surrender yourself. " 309 00:21:42,030 --> 00:21:44,750 By the time the warning finishes, Dilip Buwa, 310 00:21:45,310 --> 00:21:48,030 he immediately got up and shot at me. 311 00:21:50,870 --> 00:21:54,630 [Khan] If I come across a criminal and the criminal has got a gun, 312 00:21:55,670 --> 00:21:58,750 if he doesn't put down the gun, I'm going to shoot him. 313 00:21:58,830 --> 00:22:03,270 This is actually a must for a policeman, if he wants to live himself. 314 00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:09,710 [in Hindi] I am here now in Lokhandwala exactly where the shootout took place. 315 00:22:09,790 --> 00:22:12,870 [Khan, in English] We got a tremendous amount of publicity. 316 00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:14,150 Police Chief A. A. Khan. 317 00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:15,190 [speaking Hindi] 318 00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:18,990 [Tejpal, in English] It was the first time something like that had been seen on TV. 319 00:22:19,070 --> 00:22:20,150 POLICE 320 00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:24,830 What that shootout did was show people, the citizens, 321 00:22:24,910 --> 00:22:26,630 that the cops could fight back. 322 00:22:27,510 --> 00:22:30,550 It certainly boosted the cops' profile. 323 00:22:30,630 --> 00:22:33,230 Everybody likes to see gangsters getting killed. 324 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:38,430 [Khan] This kind of situation became known as an "encounter. " 325 00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:54,590 [Angre, in Hindi] After Lokhandwala, 326 00:22:54,670 --> 00:22:57,150 a positive message was sent from us to the public. 327 00:22:57,270 --> 00:23:00,070 That the police had done well. This is how it should be. 328 00:23:00,150 --> 00:23:02,390 You should kill criminals like this. 329 00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:07,630 It felt good. 330 00:23:07,710 --> 00:23:09,550 The police image improved. 331 00:23:10,110 --> 00:23:12,190 I was determined to do something, 332 00:23:12,270 --> 00:23:15,710 to go out and do some good work, to deliver justice to people. 333 00:23:15,790 --> 00:23:17,590 [siren wailing] 334 00:23:23,070 --> 00:23:25,550 We went after all the gangsters vigorously. 335 00:23:26,350 --> 00:23:27,470 The gun must be used, 336 00:23:27,550 --> 00:23:30,430 because it's the moral responsibility of a police officer. 337 00:23:31,070 --> 00:23:35,830 The first time I held a revolver, my palms were sweating. 338 00:23:35,910 --> 00:23:37,710 But I was too excited. 339 00:23:55,230 --> 00:23:58,550 [Sharma] I was transferred to the Crime Branch in '92. 340 00:24:01,270 --> 00:24:04,350 It was in the Crime Branch that my journey really began. 341 00:24:12,270 --> 00:24:15,750 I had an informant in every slum in Mumbai. 342 00:24:17,630 --> 00:24:19,830 They see a shootout, then call me immediately, 343 00:24:19,910 --> 00:24:21,470 "Sir, there's a shootout. " 344 00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:24,910 We call this "instant information. " 345 00:24:25,870 --> 00:24:27,830 Our intention is to arrest them. 346 00:24:28,790 --> 00:24:31,110 But if someone tries to kill you, 347 00:24:32,190 --> 00:24:34,950 you wouldn't greet them with a bouquet, right? 348 00:24:35,710 --> 00:24:38,390 The government has given us a gun. 349 00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:42,190 It's not just to hang around our waist. It's to use should the need arise. 350 00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:48,390 I have been part of several such operations. 351 00:24:50,510 --> 00:24:53,190 [train horn blaring] 352 00:25:01,630 --> 00:25:04,950 [Zaidi, in English] I was a growing crime journalist in those days. 353 00:25:05,030 --> 00:25:07,110 Me and my other reporter friends like me 354 00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:10,750 supported the cops who had started doing encounters. 355 00:25:13,310 --> 00:25:16,470 I felt that the gangsters had no fear of law. 356 00:25:17,310 --> 00:25:20,350 The only language they understood was bullet for a bullet. 357 00:25:27,630 --> 00:25:31,550 When I went to meet Pradeep Sharma, he was very wary of me. 358 00:25:31,630 --> 00:25:33,790 He was not willing to talk to me. 359 00:25:33,870 --> 00:25:36,790 [in Hindi] I explained to him that I don't have any agenda. 360 00:25:36,870 --> 00:25:38,950 I'm not going to do anything against him. 361 00:25:39,030 --> 00:25:41,750 I'm just looking for my newspaper's page-one. 362 00:25:46,750 --> 00:25:48,950 Then he started to talk to me. 363 00:25:52,110 --> 00:25:55,230 Pradeep Sharma had developed an insensitivity. 364 00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:57,790 For him, there was no wrong. 365 00:25:59,510 --> 00:26:02,670 [Sharma, in English] First time, it was a different experience. 366 00:26:03,950 --> 00:26:06,550 [Zaidi, in Hindi] Pradeep Sharma's first encounter, 367 00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:11,470 where he shot those bullets out of compulsion, 368 00:26:11,550 --> 00:26:16,110 because two people were torturing a woman and forcibly throwing her out of her home. 369 00:26:16,630 --> 00:26:19,430 He was not very sure if what he did was right or not. 370 00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:25,550 [thunder rumbling] 371 00:26:25,630 --> 00:26:27,390 [Sharma] My first encounter, 372 00:26:29,030 --> 00:26:30,670 I went in haste. 373 00:26:34,430 --> 00:26:36,710 I could have had a well-planned operation. 374 00:26:36,790 --> 00:26:38,990 I could have taken more force along. 375 00:26:41,030 --> 00:26:43,510 I opened fire to save myself. 376 00:26:44,790 --> 00:26:48,350 When their family members came, I felt very sad. 377 00:26:49,350 --> 00:26:51,470 I was like, "What have I done?" 378 00:26:52,190 --> 00:26:55,870 But thinking of it as an accident, I was able to accept it. 379 00:27:06,350 --> 00:27:08,630 [in English] I am from a Brahmin family. 380 00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:11,470 [in Hindi] I come from a very moderate family. 381 00:27:11,550 --> 00:27:16,830 We have been taught that only God has the right to a human's life, 382 00:27:17,550 --> 00:27:19,390 and the same with death. 383 00:27:19,470 --> 00:27:21,790 Humans have no control over any of this. 384 00:27:21,870 --> 00:27:24,430 These were my values I grew up with. 385 00:27:27,070 --> 00:27:31,390 No police officer enjoys killing a criminal. 386 00:27:34,270 --> 00:27:36,790 This is the job you selected. Do your duty. 387 00:27:47,470 --> 00:27:50,990 [Changoiwala, in English] I feel very conflicted when I meet gangsters. 388 00:27:51,750 --> 00:27:54,950 Many are remorseless. Many think of killing as a sport. 389 00:27:55,670 --> 00:27:59,070 But there are many others who go drunk when they have to kill 390 00:27:59,150 --> 00:28:02,750 because they cannot bear the stench of blood, the sight of blood. 391 00:28:03,670 --> 00:28:06,710 And, eventually, there is remorse. There is regret. 392 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:11,910 But the underworld has a very meticulous way 393 00:28:12,030 --> 00:28:13,590 of recruiting foot soldiers. 394 00:28:15,310 --> 00:28:16,870 It's like brainwashing. 395 00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:21,230 They have these scouts who are there on every street corner. 396 00:28:24,430 --> 00:28:27,030 They target boys who come from poor families 397 00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:28,950 but aspire to a good life. 398 00:28:31,030 --> 00:28:33,550 There are school dropouts and college dropouts. 399 00:28:34,430 --> 00:28:36,470 These people are low in self-confidence. 400 00:28:36,550 --> 00:28:40,870 So what the scout will do is he will give a small job to the potential recruit. 401 00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:44,230 And he will praise the recruit so that it builds self-confidence. 402 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:45,950 He feels appreciated. 403 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:51,150 In the underworld, they call each other "bhai, " meaning "brother. " 404 00:28:51,790 --> 00:28:55,630 It creates a sense of camaraderie. It creates a sense of belonging. 405 00:28:55,710 --> 00:28:59,070 Which is also missing from these people's life. 406 00:29:01,190 --> 00:29:03,950 It's done so brilliantly, the recruitment. 407 00:29:05,870 --> 00:29:08,190 There's a reason it's called "organized crime. " 408 00:29:13,950 --> 00:29:16,350 -[sirens wailing] -[traffic bustling] 409 00:29:20,510 --> 00:29:23,270 [Sayed, in Hindi] Everyone considered joining D-Company. 410 00:29:23,350 --> 00:29:25,350 Everyone, everyone, everyone. 411 00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:29,150 But the name "gangster" 412 00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:32,190 was something we never understood. 413 00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:34,990 Everyone was just trying to make life work. 414 00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:42,750 When police started killing Dawood's supporters, 415 00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:46,030 the difference between justice and injustice, 416 00:29:46,110 --> 00:29:47,790 it was all mixed up. 417 00:29:48,790 --> 00:29:52,470 After that, people started thinking there'd be a reaction. 418 00:29:54,590 --> 00:29:58,430 He was not the sort of person to just let something be. 419 00:29:59,990 --> 00:30:01,590 But then Dawood left for Dubai. 420 00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:23,830 [Kishore, in English] Doing business was better from Dubai. 421 00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:26,470 His main business was gold. 422 00:30:27,270 --> 00:30:28,630 He used to buy it in tons. 423 00:30:29,310 --> 00:30:33,790 And he had a very good network of smuggling gold from Dubai to India. 424 00:30:34,510 --> 00:30:37,350 There used to be a profit margin of 25%. 425 00:30:44,150 --> 00:30:46,430 From time to time, I would see him. 426 00:30:50,430 --> 00:30:53,030 Meeting him was a big deal. 427 00:30:54,990 --> 00:30:58,790 Like, any Tom, Dick and Harry wouldn't have access to him. 428 00:31:04,270 --> 00:31:07,230 He didn't care about encounter cops initially 429 00:31:07,790 --> 00:31:09,230 because he was safe. 430 00:31:10,550 --> 00:31:13,230 His most trusted lieutenants were safe. 431 00:31:14,590 --> 00:31:17,390 It was only the foot soldiers who were being killed. 432 00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:20,910 He had to pay them money every month. 433 00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:24,950 And if they were killed, probably it saved him his money. 434 00:31:29,230 --> 00:31:33,750 But after the riots of '92 and the police reaction, 435 00:31:34,910 --> 00:31:36,590 then his attitude changed. 436 00:31:39,470 --> 00:31:43,070 [people clamoring] 437 00:31:49,910 --> 00:31:52,750 [reporter] The violence swept India throughout the day. 438 00:31:52,830 --> 00:31:57,350 Stonings, bus burnings, and attacks on police stations all across the country. 439 00:31:57,510 --> 00:31:58,830 [gun fires] 440 00:32:02,870 --> 00:32:04,510 [Tejpal] I covered the riots. 441 00:32:06,190 --> 00:32:08,230 They were scary. They were frightening. 442 00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:11,430 And you saw what humanity is really capable of. 443 00:32:12,950 --> 00:32:15,790 We humans have so much evil and poison in us, 444 00:32:15,870 --> 00:32:17,470 it's unbelievable. 445 00:32:19,390 --> 00:32:23,590 There are certain incidents that poison comes out en masse. 446 00:32:23,670 --> 00:32:25,470 [mob clamoring] 447 00:32:25,550 --> 00:32:28,510 It started in the town of Ayodhya in Uttar Pradesh, 448 00:32:28,590 --> 00:32:32,070 where a Muslim mosque was razed to the ground. 449 00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:39,430 After that, Hindus and Muslims all over the country started fighting. 450 00:32:43,550 --> 00:32:46,510 It was violent. It was very bloody and very violent. 451 00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:50,070 There were neighbors turning against neighbors. 452 00:32:52,110 --> 00:32:53,590 You suspected everybody. 453 00:32:55,710 --> 00:32:57,430 Can the police be trusted? 454 00:32:59,670 --> 00:33:02,990 [indistinct shouting] 455 00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:13,150 [explosion booms] 456 00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:26,790 The '92-'93 riots, it was just chaos. 457 00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:29,910 Bombay was the worst hit. 458 00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:32,110 Around 900 people died. 459 00:33:32,910 --> 00:33:36,190 Many of these deaths were blamed on the police. 460 00:33:37,470 --> 00:33:40,230 They were accused of being heavy-handed, 461 00:33:41,070 --> 00:33:45,190 of usings fire for fire against regular citizens. 462 00:33:54,870 --> 00:33:57,190 [Khan] These kind of activities by the police, 463 00:33:57,270 --> 00:33:59,670 and mind you, there were just a handful of them, 464 00:33:59,750 --> 00:34:04,670 uh, again, uh, widened the gap between the police and the public. 465 00:34:04,750 --> 00:34:07,750 The public started being suspicious of the police. 466 00:34:08,950 --> 00:34:12,870 [man, in Hindi] You just have to be out on the street and they'll shoot at you. 467 00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:15,750 We are leaving Bombay in fear of the police. 468 00:34:15,830 --> 00:34:18,710 The reason for our fear is the police. 469 00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:22,070 [Angre] Police may have been a little strict. 470 00:34:22,670 --> 00:34:26,310 But if action wasn't taken, then the riots would have spread. 471 00:34:29,630 --> 00:34:31,870 We arrested a lot of people, 472 00:34:32,630 --> 00:34:34,350 detained a lot of people. 473 00:34:34,870 --> 00:34:37,550 There was lathi-charge at a lot of places. 474 00:34:37,630 --> 00:34:39,470 People were terrified of the police. 475 00:34:40,630 --> 00:34:42,790 If they saw the police, they would run. 476 00:34:44,350 --> 00:34:45,350 [whistle blows] 477 00:34:46,870 --> 00:34:49,910 [in English] In earlier riots, the underworld had stayed out. 478 00:34:51,110 --> 00:34:53,270 But Dawood was a Muslim. 479 00:34:53,350 --> 00:34:54,950 And people were saying, 480 00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:57,270 "You are such a big bhai staying in Dubai. " 481 00:34:57,990 --> 00:35:01,390 People used to call him up and say, 482 00:35:01,470 --> 00:35:03,790 "Your community people, your friends, 483 00:35:03,870 --> 00:35:07,030 they are being bumped off here and you can do nothing about it?" 484 00:35:07,110 --> 00:35:08,950 "You should have some revenge. " 485 00:35:10,910 --> 00:35:12,670 "Why don't you strike back?" 486 00:35:15,470 --> 00:35:18,790 I believe D-Company supplied weapons to some rioters. 487 00:35:19,590 --> 00:35:22,270 The result took the entire city by storm. 488 00:35:25,950 --> 00:35:28,670 [Angre, in Hindi] The riots went out of control. 489 00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:30,470 They kept spreading. 490 00:35:32,790 --> 00:35:35,830 The general public have no interest in rioting. 491 00:35:37,230 --> 00:35:41,190 Anti-national elements, those people cause riots. 492 00:35:44,470 --> 00:35:46,750 [female interviewer] Do you think D-Company 493 00:35:46,830 --> 00:35:50,070 and the gangsters had a role in these riots? 494 00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:52,510 100%. Dawood enflamed the riots. 495 00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:56,030 He wanted to create chaos. 496 00:36:02,350 --> 00:36:04,590 [Khan, in English] During the communal riots, 497 00:36:04,670 --> 00:36:08,950 we found a number of Dawood's criminals transporting arms. 498 00:36:10,270 --> 00:36:13,470 But Dawood was multi-headed hydra. 499 00:36:14,190 --> 00:36:17,830 You cut off one head, the others were always there. 500 00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:22,190 We wanted to crack down on a bigger scale. 501 00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:24,910 [horns honking] 502 00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:38,070 [Sharma, in Hindi] In Andheri, there is an international airport. 503 00:36:41,070 --> 00:36:46,830 The illegal activities there were being supervised by Shrikant Desai. 504 00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:51,550 [Kishore, in English] We used to call him Shrikant Mama. 505 00:36:51,630 --> 00:36:54,110 He was one of the top people in the company. 506 00:36:57,190 --> 00:37:00,070 He was not into the actual killing of someone. 507 00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:04,270 Shrikant used to control the smuggling routes from the airport. 508 00:37:04,350 --> 00:37:06,790 Air cargo, basically. 509 00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:09,470 And they made huge money out of that. 510 00:37:13,830 --> 00:37:15,510 [Sharma, in Hindi] Shrikant Mama, 511 00:37:16,670 --> 00:37:18,910 he was very strong and powerful. 512 00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:23,110 He was one of the top ten names in Mumbai in the '90s. 513 00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:24,830 [in English] He was one of them. 514 00:37:29,350 --> 00:37:31,710 [in Hindi] I was with my friend Vijay Salaskar. 515 00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:34,070 We were at the police station. 516 00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:36,230 [phone ringing] 517 00:37:37,550 --> 00:37:39,670 An informant phoned us. 518 00:37:40,670 --> 00:37:42,590 "Shrikant comes to this location. " 519 00:37:47,710 --> 00:37:50,950 My team and I headed there to arrest him. 520 00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:53,830 [siren wailing] 521 00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:08,670 As soon as he realized that the police had cornered him, 522 00:38:09,550 --> 00:38:11,670 he opened fire. 523 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:23,230 [gunfire continues] 524 00:38:26,790 --> 00:38:28,790 We both neutralized him. 525 00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:36,870 As soon as news of his death spread, a pin-drop silence fell. 526 00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:41,670 Nobody imagined that this man could die. 527 00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:51,270 [Kishore, in English] Shrikant, after his death, 528 00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:55,110 D-Company's air cargo section collapsed, literally. 529 00:38:56,110 --> 00:38:58,630 Dawood was affected, and he was full of anger 530 00:38:59,350 --> 00:39:02,390 for this and for the Muslims killed in the riots. 531 00:39:03,390 --> 00:39:05,430 He wanted to send out a message, 532 00:39:06,110 --> 00:39:08,710 but the scale and the magnitude of it 533 00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:11,110 catapulted him to a different league. 534 00:39:18,750 --> 00:39:20,550 [indistinct chatter] 535 00:39:21,870 --> 00:39:24,350 [reporter] A few minutes before trading was to end 536 00:39:24,430 --> 00:39:26,150 at the Bombay Stock Exchange… 537 00:39:27,750 --> 00:39:29,790 [explosion] 538 00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:34,190 -[people clamoring] -[sirens blaring] 539 00:39:55,270 --> 00:39:58,510 [reporter 1] The bombs devastated Bombay's Stock Exchange. 540 00:39:58,590 --> 00:40:00,710 [reporter 2] The explosive device placed in a car 541 00:40:00,790 --> 00:40:02,190 in the basement parking area 542 00:40:02,270 --> 00:40:04,230 claimed at least 70 lives. 543 00:40:06,150 --> 00:40:09,310 [Angre] At that time, I was sitting in Mumbai Crime Branch. 544 00:40:09,390 --> 00:40:12,670 [in Hindi] Shortly after, information came through about other areas. 545 00:40:12,750 --> 00:40:14,270 [explosion booming] 546 00:40:15,670 --> 00:40:18,310 [reporter 3, in English] A car bomb went off at a bus stop 547 00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:20,550 opposite Century Bazaar shopping center. 548 00:40:21,310 --> 00:40:24,830 [reporter 4] Other targets included banks and hotels. 549 00:40:24,910 --> 00:40:28,470 [reporter 5] In total, 12 bombs were detonated around the city. 550 00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:30,630 They were mainly placed in cars. 551 00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:33,590 [reporter 6] The deadliest terror attack India has ever seen. 552 00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:34,990 [sirens wailing] 553 00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:37,430 [in Hindi] The police were now tense. 554 00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:39,190 What on earth is happening? 555 00:40:39,790 --> 00:40:43,070 [reporter 3, in English] The city was shaken by 12 bomb blasts. 556 00:40:44,470 --> 00:40:46,670 [Sharma, in Hindi] The blasts in '93, 557 00:40:47,710 --> 00:40:50,150 it was a heinous crime, a serious crime. 558 00:40:55,390 --> 00:40:58,630 [reporter 7, in English] The main city center hospital is packed. 559 00:40:58,710 --> 00:41:00,670 The scene here, one of utter chaos. 560 00:41:00,750 --> 00:41:04,110 [reporter 8] The number killed is currently put at over 250. 561 00:41:04,190 --> 00:41:07,870 But it's feared that this death toll could rise even higher. 562 00:41:10,190 --> 00:41:11,310 [Tejpal] It was scary. 563 00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:15,550 I mean, for us, I think it was a 9/11 equivalent. 564 00:41:15,630 --> 00:41:19,270 Discovery of these grenades was the first major breakthrough for the police. 565 00:41:19,350 --> 00:41:21,710 [reporter 9] The main suspects, known gangsters, 566 00:41:21,790 --> 00:41:24,630 have fled to Dubai leaving a trail of evidence. 567 00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:27,510 [Tejpal] Dawood Ibrahim was accused of the bomb blasts. 568 00:41:27,590 --> 00:41:31,510 Incidents that started on December 6th in Ayodhya 569 00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:38,390 exploded into this just incredible act of terrorism. 570 00:41:39,670 --> 00:41:43,430 I think the attack was against the very existence and soul of this country. 571 00:41:44,190 --> 00:41:46,230 [reporter 10] The Prime Minister, Mr. Rao, 572 00:41:46,310 --> 00:41:49,070 said the target had been India's economic heart. 573 00:41:50,070 --> 00:41:51,870 [Kishore] Initially, it was disbelief. 574 00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:56,830 But then later, as we saw the evidence coming up, it was horrific. 575 00:41:56,910 --> 00:42:00,030 I had nothing to do with the bomb blasts. 576 00:42:00,110 --> 00:42:03,630 Not many secrets are kept within the D-Company, 577 00:42:03,710 --> 00:42:06,430 but this was one of the best-kept secrets. 578 00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:09,150 [reporter 11] The arrests made 579 00:42:09,230 --> 00:42:11,790 threw the spotlight on Bombay's underworld mafia. 580 00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:16,630 [Angre, in Hindi] Until then, no one ever thought a bombing in Mumbai 581 00:42:16,710 --> 00:42:19,870 could be done by gangs or terrorists. 582 00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:22,630 The concept was entirely new in India. 583 00:42:23,110 --> 00:42:26,590 [man] They would like instability and disorder to prevail 584 00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:30,430 so that they can carry on their nefarious activities. 585 00:42:31,630 --> 00:42:34,110 [sirens wailing] 586 00:42:36,070 --> 00:42:38,190 [Sharma, in Hindi] Dawood's syndicate, 587 00:42:38,270 --> 00:42:40,110 these people are terror. 588 00:42:43,390 --> 00:42:45,670 Love of the nation means nothing to them. 589 00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:55,950 [in English] The Forbes list of the world's most powerful people is out. 590 00:42:56,030 --> 00:42:59,870 Sharing space with the world's most influential leaders is the underworld don 591 00:42:59,950 --> 00:43:02,430 and India's most wanted criminal, Dawood Ibrahim, 592 00:43:02,550 --> 00:43:05,870 described as the boss of the Mumbai organized crime syndicate, 593 00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:06,950 the D-Company. 594 00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:17,190 [Sayed, in Hindi] After '93 happened, he was labeled as a terrorist. 595 00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:20,430 From terror to terrorist. 596 00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:26,950 No one has their future written on their forehead. 597 00:43:28,590 --> 00:43:33,550 He never started with the plan that, "In '93, I'll do a bombing. " 598 00:43:34,910 --> 00:43:38,990 He didn't think like that, but the situation kept building. 599 00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:58,910 After the '93 blasts, our enquiries had started. 600 00:43:59,510 --> 00:44:03,990 From the investigations, we found out that the bomb blast was planned in Dubai. 601 00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:09,710 [imperceptible] 602 00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:19,430 Dawood was fully involved in consignments landing. 603 00:44:19,510 --> 00:44:23,070 Material for the bomb blasts were landed. RDX explosives were landed. 604 00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:28,670 The government was furious. 605 00:44:28,750 --> 00:44:30,190 Police were furious. 606 00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:32,990 This was like war against the state. 607 00:44:37,310 --> 00:44:42,470 Our superiors were under pressure to get a handle on this. 608 00:44:50,670 --> 00:44:53,710 [Zaidi] Just think that after the 1993 blast, 609 00:44:54,430 --> 00:44:57,070 a special squad of the Crime Branch was formed. 610 00:44:57,150 --> 00:44:59,990 It included these encounter specialist officers… 611 00:45:00,070 --> 00:45:03,390 [in English] And they were given carte blanche, an unlimited power. 612 00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:10,150 Police Commissioner R. D. Tyagi said, "I want encounters. " 613 00:45:14,310 --> 00:45:16,710 [Angre, in Hindi] The police had to create terror 614 00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:18,990 that is with the consent of the superiors. 615 00:45:20,830 --> 00:45:22,630 "Why have we given you a revolver?" 616 00:45:23,110 --> 00:45:24,750 "We want strict action. " 617 00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:28,550 We all knew what they meant. 618 00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:33,590 [Zaidi, in English] When certain officers protested 619 00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:35,750 against eliminating people in encounters, 620 00:45:35,830 --> 00:45:37,790 R. D. Tyagi was very angry. 621 00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:41,270 He said, "I know as a commissioner how I can do this. " 622 00:45:42,350 --> 00:45:44,470 "You don't teach your father how to fuck. " 623 00:45:51,110 --> 00:45:53,750 The Mumbai bomb blast changed everything, you know. 624 00:45:53,830 --> 00:45:56,390 [sirens wailing] 625 00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:59,630 The public outcry was so deafening. 626 00:46:00,390 --> 00:46:01,670 It was open season. 627 00:46:01,750 --> 00:46:03,990 The killing fields are open. Boom. Go for it. 628 00:46:04,070 --> 00:46:06,670 [reporter 1] The Mumbai police have begun an intensive search. 629 00:46:06,750 --> 00:46:09,310 [reporter 2] Police are now out to stop the gang activity 630 00:46:09,390 --> 00:46:10,430 any way they can. 631 00:46:11,950 --> 00:46:13,350 It was fear psychology. 632 00:46:13,430 --> 00:46:15,990 -No, sir! -Stand up! 633 00:46:16,070 --> 00:46:19,590 [in Hindi] If they can scare the public, then we can scare them too. 634 00:46:20,230 --> 00:46:23,550 [reporter 3, in English] The police aren't shy about their tactics. 635 00:46:23,630 --> 00:46:25,590 Shoot first, ask questions later. 636 00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:29,830 [in Hindi] Not a week would pass without an encounter. 637 00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:32,390 [reporter 3, in English] The Bombay police have shot dead 638 00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:34,230 more than 40 alleged gangsters 639 00:46:34,310 --> 00:46:36,110 in the last two months alone. 640 00:46:36,190 --> 00:46:39,630 The encounter squad had a sort of official sanction. 641 00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:41,350 Everybody wanted Dawood's blood, 642 00:46:41,430 --> 00:46:45,350 and they were more motivated than ever to go after his gangsters. 643 00:46:45,830 --> 00:46:47,910 I was like, "Something is finally happening. " 644 00:46:50,310 --> 00:46:53,390 [Angre, in Hindi] We would never share information with each other 645 00:46:53,470 --> 00:46:55,870 because there was professional rivalry. 646 00:46:59,110 --> 00:47:01,310 [young Angre, in English] We asked them to surrender. 647 00:47:01,390 --> 00:47:06,150 But instead of surrendering themselves, they started firing on the police. 648 00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:08,230 [Salaskar] When somebody's firing towards you, 649 00:47:08,310 --> 00:47:12,190 you don't have time to consider whether you're firing towards his hand or leg. 650 00:47:12,270 --> 00:47:15,190 We have been taught that the firing should be effective. 651 00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:17,990 [reporter 4] Police gunned down three gangsters here 652 00:47:18,070 --> 00:47:20,110 in Bombay's central business district. 653 00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:24,430 [in Hindi] They could arrest anyone, kill anyone in an encounter. 654 00:47:24,510 --> 00:47:27,670 [men speaking in Hindi] 655 00:47:31,830 --> 00:47:34,310 [reporter 5] Mumbai's encounter specialists, 656 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:36,150 sharpshooters in police uniform. 657 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:40,430 [in Hindi] So the media's reaction was good, very positive. 658 00:47:40,510 --> 00:47:43,950 [Salaskar, in English] I have shot down 16 hardcore criminals. 659 00:47:44,030 --> 00:47:46,990 [in Hindi] I carried out four encounters in one day. 660 00:47:57,910 --> 00:48:00,910 [Khan, in English] After '93, squads were created 661 00:48:00,990 --> 00:48:02,910 and they were given unfettered powers. 662 00:48:07,190 --> 00:48:09,550 I had actually objected to the senior officers. 663 00:48:11,110 --> 00:48:16,830 I said that we couldn't shoot a criminal on our own whim and fancy. 664 00:48:18,310 --> 00:48:22,270 The aim of every policeman is initially to arrest the person 665 00:48:22,350 --> 00:48:23,470 and bring him to justice. 666 00:48:23,550 --> 00:48:25,670 And these kind of wanton killings 667 00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:28,470 left a bad taste in the mouth. 668 00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:31,150 I said, "I don't want to continue. " 669 00:48:32,030 --> 00:48:35,030 And I decided to take voluntary retirement. 670 00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:43,030 [in Hindi] I still feel like he shouldn't have resigned. 671 00:48:44,990 --> 00:48:47,110 Something must have bothered him 672 00:48:48,110 --> 00:48:49,390 and he resigned. 673 00:48:50,830 --> 00:48:52,070 A great officer. 674 00:48:56,510 --> 00:49:03,190 He had some disagreements with our superiors, so he had to leave. 675 00:49:05,550 --> 00:49:08,030 When I was posted in Thane, 676 00:49:08,110 --> 00:49:11,390 in two and a half years, I did 22-23 encounters. 677 00:49:12,350 --> 00:49:16,870 The press, TV, human rights lot, courts, 678 00:49:18,190 --> 00:49:20,190 politicians, and bureaucrats… 679 00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:26,270 [in English] Nobody objected. 680 00:49:27,390 --> 00:49:29,750 -[indistinct chatter] -[horns honking] 681 00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:41,430 [Perry] I hadn't even been in India for a few months 682 00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:43,150 when I began reading about this. 683 00:49:45,390 --> 00:49:49,430 And that phrase "encounter cops, " it took me ages to work that out. 684 00:49:49,510 --> 00:49:52,110 "What is an encounter cop? They're having a lot of meetings?" 685 00:49:58,910 --> 00:50:03,070 I remember the papers kept score of their tallies. 686 00:50:03,150 --> 00:50:06,350 [reporter 1] Ravindra Angre, 52 encounters. 687 00:50:06,430 --> 00:50:09,230 Vijay Salaskar, 48 encounters. 688 00:50:09,790 --> 00:50:11,830 "This guy's got 42. This guy's got 58. " 689 00:50:11,910 --> 00:50:13,910 [reporter 2] Eighty-five encounters. 690 00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:15,710 Eighty-three encounters. 691 00:50:15,790 --> 00:50:17,910 [Perry] What was the odd thing about it 692 00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:23,110 was the gangsters would always be armed with an AK-47, 693 00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:25,310 and the cops would always have a pistol. 694 00:50:25,390 --> 00:50:27,950 But somehow, the cops were never hurt. 695 00:50:30,670 --> 00:50:35,310 You know, how does one guy shoot 87 people without getting a scratch? 696 00:50:37,590 --> 00:50:39,670 This sounded quite curious to me. 697 00:50:42,750 --> 00:50:45,950 The other intriguing part was how it was portrayed. 698 00:50:47,590 --> 00:50:50,390 They had laudatory coverage in the papers. 699 00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:52,070 There's something way off here. 700 00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:53,430 [gun firing] 701 00:50:54,590 --> 00:50:56,310 [reporter 3] Encounter specialists, 702 00:50:56,390 --> 00:50:58,470 who have come to be near mythological heroes 703 00:50:58,550 --> 00:51:01,470 with Bollywood films centered around them. 704 00:51:01,550 --> 00:51:04,390 [in Hindi] How many guys have you personally killed till date? 705 00:51:04,470 --> 00:51:06,310 Two, five, ten? 706 00:51:06,390 --> 00:51:08,830 I have bumped off more than 50 already. 707 00:51:10,070 --> 00:51:12,830 [in English] These guys become kind of rock stars. 708 00:51:13,790 --> 00:51:14,910 They were celebrities. 709 00:51:14,990 --> 00:51:18,270 They were stopped in the street and they hung out with celebrities. 710 00:51:18,350 --> 00:51:19,750 [in Hindi] It felt good, obviously, 711 00:51:19,830 --> 00:51:23,630 being in the newspaper, doing TV interviews. 712 00:51:24,550 --> 00:51:27,390 The press called me "Fastest gun in the West. " 713 00:51:31,870 --> 00:51:35,710 The talk of us acting like heroes, the media started this. 714 00:51:37,390 --> 00:51:39,150 How is this our fault? 715 00:51:41,350 --> 00:51:45,310 Pradeep Sharma, I would say back in '96-'97, was down to earth. 716 00:51:45,390 --> 00:51:47,350 [in English] Pradeep Sharma, Bombay Police? 717 00:51:47,430 --> 00:51:48,270 Yeah, I am. 718 00:51:48,350 --> 00:51:49,950 [Zaidi] But then there came ego. 719 00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:52,350 [in Hindi] People say you are bigger superstars 720 00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:54,030 than the film stars who play you. 721 00:51:54,110 --> 00:51:57,590 Yes, sometimes people say that. 722 00:51:57,670 --> 00:52:00,670 [in English] They like the fact they want to be the man of the hour. 723 00:52:01,310 --> 00:52:03,630 [in Hindi] As the police, we go to arrest them. 724 00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:06,510 But, obviously, they know they face stringent laws. 725 00:52:06,590 --> 00:52:10,910 If they're arrested, they won't get out for eight to ten years. 726 00:52:10,990 --> 00:52:13,710 That's why, to scare the police or to save themselves, 727 00:52:13,790 --> 00:52:16,630 they fire at us. And then we retaliate. 728 00:52:17,470 --> 00:52:20,990 [Zaidi, in English] Pradeep Sharma was hungry for going after criminals 729 00:52:21,070 --> 00:52:22,710 and killing them in encounters. 730 00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:30,470 [in Hindi] When they did encounters, 731 00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:33,270 I was going on the spot to do stories on them. 732 00:52:33,350 --> 00:52:36,710 [in English] Now, I used to get close to them and speak to them. 733 00:52:38,190 --> 00:52:42,190 If you become a good listener, if you tap that thing in them, 734 00:52:43,350 --> 00:52:45,950 just because you have given them time to talk… 735 00:52:46,030 --> 00:52:48,870 [in Hindi] …you will see how they share stories with you, 736 00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:51,670 they will vent out to you and share hidden secrets with you… 737 00:52:51,750 --> 00:52:53,830 [in English] …which becomes your page-one story. 738 00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:58,550 They were in competition with each other, 739 00:52:58,630 --> 00:53:00,910 trying to score the biggest number of hits. 740 00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:04,710 "I've killed 80. " "I've killed 90. " "I have killed 100. " 741 00:53:04,790 --> 00:53:06,350 It's going to go to their head. 742 00:53:07,510 --> 00:53:10,150 It looked like that was the only accomplishment 743 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:11,870 that they were really proud of. 744 00:53:12,950 --> 00:53:18,030 At last count, Pradeep, you had 92… 745 00:53:18,110 --> 00:53:20,230 A score of 92, and you 78, isn't it? 746 00:53:20,310 --> 00:53:21,710 -Or something like that. -Yeah. 747 00:53:21,790 --> 00:53:26,110 So it's like a Sachin Tendulkar-Sehwag or Yuvraj-Kaif partnership. 748 00:53:26,990 --> 00:53:29,830 Who chases after whom? You are chasing after him? 749 00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:32,430 -No, we are working together. -Working together? 750 00:53:33,550 --> 00:53:35,870 Merely going around killing criminals 751 00:53:36,990 --> 00:53:39,630 for the sake of building up a record, 752 00:53:39,710 --> 00:53:44,270 or saying, "Yes, I have accounted for so many encounter deaths, " 753 00:53:45,230 --> 00:53:48,070 that is… I would call it reprehensible. 754 00:53:52,990 --> 00:53:57,070 [Changoiwala] During the late '90s, Mumbai looked like a war zone. 755 00:53:57,750 --> 00:54:00,870 But the encounter squad was not pulled up. 756 00:54:01,790 --> 00:54:04,870 Somehow everybody saw it as legitimate. 757 00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:06,710 I think it is justified completely. 758 00:54:06,790 --> 00:54:10,230 [man 1] Extraordinary situations call for extraordinary measures. 759 00:54:10,310 --> 00:54:12,070 [man 2] This is the thing that's happening. 760 00:54:12,150 --> 00:54:17,070 But then gradually, human rights activists started questioning the culture. 761 00:54:17,150 --> 00:54:21,990 I am questioning the police about this quick disposal. 762 00:54:22,070 --> 00:54:24,470 I'd rather see him found guilty in a court of law. 763 00:54:24,990 --> 00:54:29,230 [Changoiwala] By 2003, encounters had killed about 1,200 gangsters. 764 00:54:30,230 --> 00:54:34,390 When you say that the '93 blast was the biggest carnage Mumbai has seen, 765 00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:39,310 1,200 gangsters is five times the casualties we had in the '93 blast. 766 00:54:39,390 --> 00:54:42,550 Of course, these were criminals and I do not justify their actions, 767 00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:44,310 but these were men who had families, 768 00:54:45,270 --> 00:54:48,310 these were men who had wives, who had children, who had mothers, 769 00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:52,030 who had fathers, who probably had a chance at reformation. 770 00:54:54,750 --> 00:54:58,270 Then the term "fake encounter" entered the public discourse. 771 00:54:59,390 --> 00:55:01,950 Their encounters could have been staged. 772 00:55:06,590 --> 00:55:08,870 [Khan] There was a series of anecdotes 773 00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:12,150 that officers picked up criminals from their homes, 774 00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:15,390 and they took them elsewhere, interrogated them and shot them. 775 00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:20,310 [reporter, in Hindi] On Mumbai Police's number one most wanted list, 776 00:55:20,710 --> 00:55:22,950 Sada Mama Pawle, was finally caught by the police. 777 00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:25,590 Police retaliated and shot two dead on the spot. 778 00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:31,110 This is all a media creation. 779 00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:32,750 The public know 780 00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:35,950 who is fake and who is genuine. 781 00:55:38,830 --> 00:55:40,590 [thunder rumbles] 782 00:55:42,070 --> 00:55:43,790 [Angre] I've had 54 encounters. 783 00:55:45,510 --> 00:55:48,990 I don't have any allegations against me for a single encounter. 784 00:55:50,190 --> 00:55:52,270 All of mine were clean encounters. 785 00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:58,470 Why blame the police then? We did the work. 786 00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:13,830 [Kishore, in English] Living in the city became much more dangerous. 787 00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:15,990 Stories were around 788 00:56:16,070 --> 00:56:18,470 that some of my friends got picked up from somewhere, 789 00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:20,790 and then they were shot. 790 00:56:22,190 --> 00:56:24,190 People were saying, "You are targeted. " 791 00:56:24,270 --> 00:56:25,830 "You are a name. " 792 00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:30,710 "So you'll also be a victim of some encounter, a managed encounter. " 793 00:56:30,790 --> 00:56:34,150 [female interviewer] Were you shocked by the number of people being encountered? 794 00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:35,350 Yes… 795 00:56:36,350 --> 00:56:37,270 I was shocked. 796 00:56:37,350 --> 00:56:41,550 But people told me, yes, now it's a more pro-active force. 797 00:56:44,430 --> 00:56:46,670 I did fear Pradeep Sharma. 798 00:56:46,750 --> 00:56:50,750 I had some credible intelligence he was trying to gun for me. 799 00:56:53,310 --> 00:56:56,670 He had a lot of informers from the underworld. 800 00:56:56,750 --> 00:57:00,270 People who probably, to avoid being encountered themselves, 801 00:57:01,030 --> 00:57:03,030 they would say, "Please don't kill us, 802 00:57:03,110 --> 00:57:04,630 I will give you information. " 803 00:57:05,750 --> 00:57:10,310 So I made up my mind that I want to step out of this. 804 00:57:10,390 --> 00:57:12,870 It's not worth what I'm risking. 805 00:57:21,070 --> 00:57:25,030 I felt probably it'll be much safer for me to be out of the city. 806 00:57:27,150 --> 00:57:29,590 So, November of 2003, 807 00:57:30,430 --> 00:57:33,830 early morning around five o'clock, I drove to Goa. 808 00:57:39,310 --> 00:57:41,030 I was terrified. 809 00:57:41,110 --> 00:57:42,750 Am I being followed? 810 00:57:43,630 --> 00:57:46,030 Are my phones being tapped? 811 00:57:47,910 --> 00:57:50,670 I do not know. Probably at the next check post, 812 00:57:51,590 --> 00:57:55,150 someone might be waiting for me to bump me off. 813 00:58:02,630 --> 00:58:05,070 [Sayed, in Hindi] Many were killed in encounters. 814 00:58:05,150 --> 00:58:07,030 And do you know what they did? 815 00:58:07,110 --> 00:58:11,590 They left all their illegal activities and surrendered themselves to the police 816 00:58:11,670 --> 00:58:13,230 out of fear of encounters. 817 00:58:15,510 --> 00:58:19,030 [in English] This is a .38 revolver. I always use it against criminals. 818 00:58:20,110 --> 00:58:22,150 [in Hindi] Slowly the fear spread. 819 00:58:23,470 --> 00:58:25,950 [in English] This is an AK-56 rifle. 820 00:58:26,030 --> 00:58:29,470 [in Hindi] What changed for Dawood? The roads started to close for him. 821 00:58:29,550 --> 00:58:33,190 Everyone knew speaking to a terrorist would lead to bad fortune for themselves. 822 00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:34,470 No one would talk to him. 823 00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:46,190 [Kishore, in English] Most of the top rung of D-Company, they fled. 824 00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:48,750 Dawood went into hiding totally. 825 00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:55,470 It was all about securing your own life. 826 00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:58,910 I took a fake name. 827 00:58:59,870 --> 00:59:02,870 I had absolutely no contact with anybody. 828 00:59:05,270 --> 00:59:08,230 My family members, my brother, my father… 829 00:59:08,310 --> 00:59:09,630 Everyone. 830 00:59:10,950 --> 00:59:12,790 I was quite lonely. 831 00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:15,270 I would stay close to ten years incognito. 832 00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:19,630 Trying to evade being made a target of some encounter. 833 00:59:24,710 --> 00:59:27,310 [reporter] A shootout happened near the Deonar Crematorium 834 00:59:27,390 --> 00:59:29,190 in North-East Mumbai early this morning. 835 00:59:30,270 --> 00:59:33,150 Nearly 60 alleged gangsters have been killed in similar encounters 836 00:59:33,230 --> 00:59:35,590 with the Mumbai Police in the last eight months. 837 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:43,190 [Perry] The effect on organized crime in Bombay was massive. 838 00:59:45,710 --> 00:59:49,630 There have been, you know, two shootings a week on the streets 839 00:59:49,710 --> 00:59:51,030 by the gangsters. 840 00:59:51,790 --> 00:59:55,150 But by the early 2000s, it had fallen to sort of two a month. 841 00:59:55,830 --> 00:59:58,270 So encounter cops had a massive impact. 842 00:59:59,870 --> 01:00:01,350 And I just remember thinking, 843 01:00:02,270 --> 01:00:04,030 "I need to meet one of these guys. " 844 01:00:08,430 --> 01:00:11,270 I didn't have a extensive contacts list at that stage. 845 01:00:11,350 --> 01:00:13,750 But I began asking around, 846 01:00:13,830 --> 01:00:17,230 and there was one particular journalist in Bombay 847 01:00:17,310 --> 01:00:19,950 called Hussain Zaidi, who was a crime reporter, 848 01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:22,150 who knew everybody. 849 01:00:23,870 --> 01:00:26,150 You know, he had all these guys on speed dial. 850 01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:29,470 He was very fascinated with these encounter cops. 851 01:00:29,550 --> 01:00:31,670 He says, "We have not seen these kind of cops 852 01:00:31,750 --> 01:00:33,270 except in movies like Dirty Harry. " 853 01:00:34,750 --> 01:00:38,950 [in Hindi] He asked me to introduce him to a guy who would open up 854 01:00:39,030 --> 01:00:40,910 or speak to us in an interview. 855 01:00:41,950 --> 01:00:43,670 [in English] So, I said, "Pradeep Sharma. " 856 01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:46,710 [Perry] He was India's leading encounter cop. 857 01:00:47,710 --> 01:00:51,350 In fact, he was coming up to make his century. 858 01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:57,470 It's one of those things where you're going into an interview 859 01:00:57,550 --> 01:01:00,590 and you want to try and count your questions 860 01:01:00,670 --> 01:01:03,350 and be quite careful, tread quite carefully, 861 01:01:03,430 --> 01:01:09,390 and let someone almost lead you to a place rather than sort of confront them, um… 862 01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:13,030 and I didn't have to do any of that. 863 01:01:15,990 --> 01:01:17,630 It was extraordinary. 864 01:01:19,350 --> 01:01:22,830 I'm interviewing Pradeep, and in the room next door, 865 01:01:23,590 --> 01:01:27,830 there were a couple of guys chained up, who were being beaten senseless. 866 01:01:27,910 --> 01:01:30,550 You know, they may kill these two guys. 867 01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:35,270 I just kept my mouth shut and just observed this. 868 01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:40,030 No one wrote 869 01:01:40,710 --> 01:01:43,830 "These cops are killing people, executing people on the streets. " 870 01:01:43,910 --> 01:01:44,990 No one wrote that. 871 01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:51,550 So, I think I was half expecting to find out that there was some explanation. 872 01:01:52,190 --> 01:01:54,950 But it was definitely only when I got there that I realized, 873 01:01:55,030 --> 01:01:58,710 "Right, they are just whacking these guys… [laughs] 874 01:01:58,790 --> 01:02:01,510 …and making no bones about it. " 875 01:02:02,350 --> 01:02:04,470 And telling me that actually. 876 01:02:09,310 --> 01:02:11,510 [in Hindi] Hussain Zaidi brought Alex Perry. 877 01:02:15,630 --> 01:02:18,310 He said, "They want to interview you for a magazine. " 878 01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:19,310 I said, "Okay. " 879 01:02:20,270 --> 01:02:22,670 I spoke to him the same way I'm talking to you. 880 01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:27,190 I didn't know how important TIME Magazine was. 881 01:02:27,990 --> 01:02:29,950 Naturally, they are filth. 882 01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:34,830 We have to clean them from our society. 883 01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:38,710 We met a few times, and he was open. He was candid. 884 01:02:38,790 --> 01:02:40,750 [speaking indistinctly] 885 01:02:42,270 --> 01:02:45,350 Everybody knows this is going on. Everybody agrees with it. 886 01:02:45,430 --> 01:02:47,070 So who's going to complain? 887 01:02:47,790 --> 01:02:50,310 And I used to look at him sometimes and wonder whether, 888 01:02:50,390 --> 01:02:52,790 "Do you realize that there is a day of reckoning?" 889 01:02:55,590 --> 01:02:59,310 You know, he was obviously enjoying the character that he was. 890 01:02:59,870 --> 01:03:02,510 He thought he was being a service to his community. 891 01:03:03,270 --> 01:03:07,950 And I think these guys all thought that they had impunity. 892 01:03:12,750 --> 01:03:16,470 [Sharma, in Hindi] In 2003, I never knew the value of TIME Magazine. 893 01:03:16,550 --> 01:03:19,070 I had never read it in my entire life. 894 01:03:21,590 --> 01:03:25,550 [in English] "After we shoot some mobster, his victims look at me like God. " 895 01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:28,310 "Criminals are filth and I'm the cleaner. " 896 01:03:28,790 --> 01:03:32,150 It feels like a kind of Icarus arc, right? 897 01:03:32,230 --> 01:03:34,030 You know, they flew too high. 898 01:03:34,110 --> 01:03:38,350 There was bound to be some kind of blowback. 899 01:03:38,430 --> 01:03:40,790 [reporter 1] Sharma is the first encounter specialist 900 01:03:40,870 --> 01:03:42,630 to have been removed from active duty. 901 01:03:42,710 --> 01:03:44,990 [reporter 2] Sharma, the first senior encounter man, 902 01:03:45,070 --> 01:03:45,950 to be removed. 903 01:03:46,030 --> 01:03:48,710 [reporter 3] He was arrested last night along with five others 904 01:03:48,790 --> 01:03:52,470 for the fake encounter of an alleged gangster in Mumbai's Andheri area. 905 01:03:52,550 --> 01:03:55,430 [in Hindi] I wish I had never given that interview. 906 01:03:56,070 --> 01:03:59,190 [Angre] Suddenly, people started questioning what was going on. 907 01:03:59,750 --> 01:04:02,230 Everyone was happy when the work was getting done. 908 01:04:02,350 --> 01:04:03,870 Why question everything after? 909 01:04:13,630 --> 01:04:15,470 [Sharma] Naturally, I felt bad. 910 01:04:17,030 --> 01:04:19,990 So, the media changed its tune. 911 01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:23,630 I took on the enemies of society. 912 01:04:24,750 --> 01:04:26,830 After doing all that, they are locking me up. 913 01:04:26,910 --> 01:04:28,430 [reporter 1] Mr. Pradeep! 914 01:04:28,510 --> 01:04:30,870 [reporter 2, in English] Sidelined by the same force 915 01:04:30,950 --> 01:04:32,830 that had once rewarded him for his service. 916 01:04:32,910 --> 01:04:35,630 Many policemen see this as the end of an era. 917 01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:39,670 [Changoiwala] When the TIME article came out, things went downhill, 918 01:04:40,790 --> 01:04:44,470 not just for Pradeep Sharma, but for other cops. 919 01:04:44,550 --> 01:04:48,950 Everybody started scrutinizing the actions of the encounter specialists. 920 01:04:49,710 --> 01:04:51,870 [Ribeiro] I think they're criminals in uniform. 921 01:04:51,950 --> 01:04:54,950 -You do think that. -Criminals in uniform. 922 01:04:55,030 --> 01:04:58,830 Because anybody who is being given so much freedom 923 01:04:58,910 --> 01:05:01,270 to kill people, who is safe? 924 01:05:01,870 --> 01:05:07,190 Cases that have piled up against Mumbai's high-profile encounter specialist… 925 01:05:07,270 --> 01:05:10,550 [Changoiwala] There were many allegations of corruption. 926 01:05:10,830 --> 01:05:14,150 [reporter] Builder, Ganesh Wagh, alleged that his life was under threat 927 01:05:14,230 --> 01:05:17,070 from another encounter specialist, Ravindra Angre. 928 01:05:18,230 --> 01:05:20,270 [in Hindi] An extortion case was filed against me. 929 01:05:20,350 --> 01:05:24,990 I was arrested and put in jail for some years. 930 01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:30,190 Everyone in Thane knew that the allegations were false. 931 01:05:32,590 --> 01:05:36,550 Some people were waiting to find anything against me so that they could trap me. 932 01:05:37,150 --> 01:05:41,070 If a junior gets fame, will the superior feel good about it? 933 01:05:42,270 --> 01:05:45,190 So there was a little bit of jealousy everywhere. 934 01:05:45,270 --> 01:05:48,790 [reporter 1, in English] Angre is not the only one to fall from grace. 935 01:05:48,870 --> 01:05:52,110 [reporter 2] Sachin Vaze arrested for the custodial death of Khwaja Yunus. 936 01:05:52,190 --> 01:05:55,230 [reporter 1] Praful Bhosle currently under suspicion. 937 01:05:55,310 --> 01:05:58,590 [in Hindi] Editors used to visit. Our names would be printed in editorials. 938 01:05:58,670 --> 01:06:01,190 We were in the front page of news. 939 01:06:01,270 --> 01:06:04,310 [man, in English] They were once the pride of the Mumbai Police. 940 01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:07,070 They were cops who shot gangsters in encounters 941 01:06:07,150 --> 01:06:10,190 and struck fear in the heart of the underworld. 942 01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:14,390 [interviewer, in Hindi] After all you've done, 943 01:06:14,470 --> 01:06:17,630 all the terrorists and underworld people that you have killed, 944 01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:19,550 which brought peace to Mumbai, 945 01:06:19,630 --> 01:06:24,350 is it painful to find yourself under an investigation like this? 946 01:06:25,390 --> 01:06:27,430 Definitely, I'm hurt. For sure. 947 01:06:28,030 --> 01:06:32,110 [interviewer] How does it feel? I mean, we want to know the feeling. 948 01:06:32,190 --> 01:06:35,270 After killing 112 people, this is the reward I get. 949 01:06:49,310 --> 01:06:52,070 [Rupin, in English] I personally think that killing, 950 01:06:52,150 --> 01:06:54,590 causing death of others is detestable. 951 01:06:55,950 --> 01:06:58,710 As policemen, I think we should desist from doing that. 952 01:07:01,590 --> 01:07:04,350 These are totally avoidable inhuman practices. 953 01:07:04,430 --> 01:07:07,070 So it was just a matter of time that there was resistance 954 01:07:07,150 --> 01:07:08,630 towards police doing this. 955 01:07:13,350 --> 01:07:16,590 By this time, the top leaders from the D-Company 956 01:07:16,670 --> 01:07:18,510 were all sitting outside India. 957 01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:23,590 I had been picked up for deputation to the Ministry of External Affairs. 958 01:07:24,710 --> 01:07:28,150 I was handling investigations abroad and extraditions. 959 01:07:31,710 --> 01:07:35,390 Abu Salem was a big shot member of the Dawood gang. 960 01:07:36,070 --> 01:07:37,550 He was involved in extortion. 961 01:07:37,630 --> 01:07:39,510 Among the Bollywood industry, 962 01:07:39,590 --> 01:07:42,550 there were around 50 odd cases throughout the country against him. 963 01:07:42,830 --> 01:07:46,590 Including his involvement in the murder of Gulshan Kumar. 964 01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:48,790 [man 1] Gulshan Kumar was a multimillionaire. 965 01:07:48,870 --> 01:07:51,510 [man 2] To Indians, Gulshan Kumar was almost a legend. 966 01:07:51,590 --> 01:07:53,550 [man 3] With the fortune he made on film music, 967 01:07:53,630 --> 01:07:55,430 he built this temple near his home… 968 01:07:55,510 --> 01:07:57,390 [man 4] Gulshan Kumar was accosted by gunmen 969 01:07:57,470 --> 01:08:01,150 and shot at from point-blank range while coming out of a temple. 970 01:08:02,030 --> 01:08:05,390 [Rupin] Abu Salem was wanted for the Gulshan Kumar murder case, 971 01:08:05,470 --> 01:08:08,030 and he was wanted for the Bombay bomb blasts. 972 01:08:08,710 --> 01:08:11,710 [reporter 1] Abu Salem is a high-profile convict… 973 01:08:11,790 --> 01:08:15,070 [reporter 2] One of the masterminds of the 1993 Bombay blasts. 974 01:08:15,150 --> 01:08:17,110 [Rupin] That was when I decided, 975 01:08:17,190 --> 01:08:20,550 this is one guy that I will go after and try to get him if possible. 976 01:08:22,870 --> 01:08:26,470 There used to be various news that he is in the US, Canada, 977 01:08:26,550 --> 01:08:30,590 or in the Gulf countries, traveling under fake IDs. 978 01:08:30,670 --> 01:08:33,830 The criminals would change their numbers, their location. 979 01:08:34,390 --> 01:08:35,950 They outwitted the system. 980 01:08:36,910 --> 01:08:40,270 But information technology has broken barriers. 981 01:08:41,350 --> 01:08:44,710 Interpol headquarters forwarded to us emails. 982 01:08:44,790 --> 01:08:49,550 The email said that he will go to Norway and then onwards to Canada. 983 01:08:50,470 --> 01:08:52,670 We tracked the origins of that email. 984 01:08:53,990 --> 01:08:56,430 By the evening, we had come to know 985 01:08:57,190 --> 01:08:59,590 that this email originated from Portugal. 986 01:09:06,270 --> 01:09:09,830 [reporter, in Hindi] In the area of Martim Moniz is this street, 987 01:09:09,910 --> 01:09:13,110 Rua Da Palma, where a lot of Indian people live. 988 01:09:13,190 --> 01:09:16,870 The pink building which you see right now 989 01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:19,470 is Rua Da Palma 284. 990 01:09:19,550 --> 01:09:24,350 On the 18th, Abu Salem was coming down from this building 991 01:09:24,430 --> 01:09:28,390 and right in front near the gate is where the police were waiting for him. 992 01:09:31,350 --> 01:09:34,750 [Rupin, in English] In Portugal, their constitution lays down 993 01:09:34,830 --> 01:09:36,510 that nobody will be extradited 994 01:09:36,590 --> 01:09:39,030 if the death penalty can be imposed. 995 01:09:42,230 --> 01:09:46,030 The next day, I got a call from the legal advisor in CBI. 996 01:09:46,870 --> 01:09:48,110 He said, "What do we do?" 997 01:09:48,830 --> 01:09:51,710 "How can we say that death penalty cannot be imposed?" 998 01:09:51,790 --> 01:09:55,830 "And it is such a serious offense of terrorism or murders and all. " 999 01:09:55,910 --> 01:09:57,470 I said, "Sir, we have to decide. " 1000 01:09:57,550 --> 01:09:59,830 "The bottom line is whether we want him back or not. " 1001 01:10:01,070 --> 01:10:04,390 "If we have to get him back, there is no option for us 1002 01:10:04,470 --> 01:10:05,950 but to give this assurance. " 1003 01:10:07,030 --> 01:10:08,630 Finally, he did agree. 1004 01:10:11,030 --> 01:10:14,670 [reporter 1] Gangster Abu Salem accused in the 1993 bomb blasts 1005 01:10:14,750 --> 01:10:17,030 is to be brought to India to face trial. 1006 01:10:17,110 --> 01:10:19,470 [reporter 2] He is likely to escape the death penalty 1007 01:10:19,550 --> 01:10:22,110 as his extradition from Portugal was on the grounds 1008 01:10:22,190 --> 01:10:24,550 that he would not be given capital punishment. 1009 01:10:24,630 --> 01:10:28,230 [Rupin] Getting an internationally recognized terrorist extradited, 1010 01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:30,990 it was the feeling of elation for all of us. 1011 01:10:31,070 --> 01:10:32,670 [indistinct chatter] 1012 01:10:32,750 --> 01:10:34,270 [reporter 3] Stay with me, Divyesh. 1013 01:10:34,350 --> 01:10:38,990 Abu Salem, one of the main conspirators of the 1993 Bombay blast… 1014 01:10:39,070 --> 01:10:40,870 [whistle blowing] 1015 01:10:40,950 --> 01:10:42,750 …given life sentence. 1016 01:10:43,630 --> 01:10:47,870 Abu Salem has been found guilty under charges of TADA, 1017 01:10:47,950 --> 01:10:51,670 conspiracy, murder, arms act, and various other charges. 1018 01:10:52,230 --> 01:10:55,710 [Rupin] There is pressure on the police to give punishment, 1019 01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:58,430 but punishment is the job of the judiciary. 1020 01:10:58,950 --> 01:11:01,550 -[man 1] Abu bhai! -[man 2] Abu bhai! 1021 01:11:02,750 --> 01:11:06,190 [Rupin] Abu Salem going to prison, I think it was a message 1022 01:11:07,430 --> 01:11:09,110 that societies do evolve. 1023 01:11:10,230 --> 01:11:12,510 You don't have to encounter or kill. 1024 01:11:13,310 --> 01:11:14,830 There is another way. 1025 01:11:15,870 --> 01:11:18,070 [Changoiwala] The death penalty had been handed out 1026 01:11:18,150 --> 01:11:21,510 to hundreds of gangsters on the streets of Bombay 1027 01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:22,990 by encounter specialists. 1028 01:11:23,070 --> 01:11:27,750 But there could have been a better way for the dead and for these cops. 1029 01:11:30,390 --> 01:11:32,350 [reporter 1] You wanted to say something? 1030 01:11:32,430 --> 01:11:35,070 [man] Who is going to decide if this man is a gangster or not? 1031 01:11:35,150 --> 01:11:39,430 You have no right to eliminate him. You are not supposed to kill that person. 1032 01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:42,190 Try him, get him prosecuted, get him convicted. 1033 01:11:42,270 --> 01:11:44,470 [applause] 1034 01:11:45,990 --> 01:11:48,870 [reporter 2] Pradeep Sharma was arrested for the fake encounter 1035 01:11:48,950 --> 01:11:50,990 of an alleged gangster in 2006. 1036 01:11:51,070 --> 01:11:53,430 Lakhan Bhaiya was killed by the police in an encounter… 1037 01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:56,510 [reporter 3] Mumbai Police's controversial encounter specialist, 1038 01:11:56,590 --> 01:11:59,990 Pradeep Sharma, is charged with kidnapping and killing in cold blood. 1039 01:12:00,070 --> 01:12:02,630 [reporter 4] Sharma was a poster boy of the Mumbai Police. 1040 01:12:02,710 --> 01:12:06,510 He was involved in 107 encounters in his 14 years of service. 1041 01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:09,990 [Sharma, in Hindi] A jail is a jail. 1042 01:12:10,070 --> 01:12:13,310 You won't have the freedom as you did outside. 1043 01:12:15,830 --> 01:12:20,110 I'm surrounded by all those that I had arrested. 1044 01:12:21,150 --> 01:12:24,670 All the detained gang members live with you. 1045 01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:27,670 You are trapped in an enclosed space. 1046 01:12:31,950 --> 01:12:36,150 [Changoiwala, in English] Pradeep Sharma was arrested and landed in prison 1047 01:12:36,230 --> 01:12:41,510 for his alleged role in the fake encounter of Ramnarayan Gupta, 1048 01:12:41,590 --> 01:12:43,790 who was popularly known as Lakhan Bhaiya. 1049 01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:48,030 And after that killing, 1050 01:12:48,110 --> 01:12:50,110 his brother approached the Bombay High Court 1051 01:12:50,190 --> 01:12:53,150 saying that Lakhan Bhaiya was killed in cold blood. 1052 01:12:56,510 --> 01:12:59,830 [Sharma, in Hindi] The irony is that for the 110 or 112 I did kill, 1053 01:12:59,910 --> 01:13:01,350 no one questioned me. 1054 01:13:02,910 --> 01:13:05,870 But for the one I didn't kill, I was framed. 1055 01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:09,950 [in English] Another former super cop who faced similar charges 1056 01:13:10,030 --> 01:13:11,830 has come out in Pradeep Sharma's defense, 1057 01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:14,510 Sachin Vaze, accused of killing Khwaja Yunus 1058 01:13:14,590 --> 01:13:17,070 in a fake encounter has sought to justify the act, 1059 01:13:17,150 --> 01:13:20,470 calling it "the ideal way to deal with criminals. " 1060 01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:24,030 Whether or not it's a fake encounter, we have to see the result of it. 1061 01:13:24,110 --> 01:13:26,270 [woman] You're saying if a bad guy is eliminated 1062 01:13:26,350 --> 01:13:28,430 even if it's a state shootout, it's okay? 1063 01:13:28,510 --> 01:13:29,510 Why not? 1064 01:13:29,670 --> 01:13:32,510 [busy chatter] 1065 01:13:38,630 --> 01:13:42,510 [Zaidi, in Hindi] Naturally, I felt bad about him being behind bars. 1066 01:13:43,310 --> 01:13:46,070 I mean, we have known each other for 25 years. 1067 01:13:48,390 --> 01:13:51,750 When I met him, we were allowed half an hour together. 1068 01:13:56,150 --> 01:13:58,950 We spent a lot of time in silence. 1069 01:13:59,790 --> 01:14:01,990 He didn't speak much. 1070 01:14:03,030 --> 01:14:05,990 He said, "Hussain, I have not done this encounter. " 1071 01:14:07,230 --> 01:14:09,790 "I have been framed up. " 1072 01:14:13,230 --> 01:14:16,430 [interviewer, in English] Did you believe him when he said that? 1073 01:14:20,630 --> 01:14:22,390 Why you want to ask such questions? 1074 01:14:28,510 --> 01:14:30,070 [Changoiwala] What happened was 1075 01:14:30,150 --> 01:14:34,270 a police team picked up Lakhan Bhaiya from Vashi in Navi Mumbai. 1076 01:14:36,030 --> 01:14:39,710 But his encounter is said to have taken place 1077 01:14:39,790 --> 01:14:42,070 the same day in the heart of the city 1078 01:14:42,870 --> 01:14:47,110 off Versova Link Road near the Nana Nani Park several hours later. 1079 01:14:47,190 --> 01:14:49,430 [siren wailing] 1080 01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:53,470 What the inquiry found was 1081 01:14:53,550 --> 01:14:56,350 that Lakhan Bhaiya was killed at point-blank range. 1082 01:14:59,470 --> 01:15:02,270 I was not involved in that encounter. 1083 01:15:05,310 --> 01:15:07,630 [in Hindi] Everyone involved received an award. 1084 01:15:07,710 --> 01:15:11,030 Everyone gave their names. Mine was not on the list. 1085 01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:13,470 If I was there, I would have given my name. 1086 01:15:13,550 --> 01:15:14,910 I would have led my team. 1087 01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:21,350 [Changoiwala, in English] In all, 13 policemen were charged. 1088 01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:25,470 Many of them were believed to be working for Sharma 1089 01:15:25,550 --> 01:15:27,310 or were answerable to Sharma. 1090 01:15:29,070 --> 01:15:31,830 [in Hindi] There were articles, saying this and that. 1091 01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:37,910 I can't say much about it. 1092 01:15:40,750 --> 01:15:44,390 [male interviewer] How did you feel on a human level about it? 1093 01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:47,310 Ultimately, a criminal was killed. 1094 01:15:47,390 --> 01:15:49,230 It was not a saint who died. 1095 01:15:50,830 --> 01:15:53,630 Naturally, you feel bad, but, well… 1096 01:15:58,070 --> 01:16:00,990 [Changoiwala, in English] There was another aspect to this. 1097 01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:07,510 The police were said to have picked up Anil Bheda along with Lakhan Bhaiya. 1098 01:16:09,390 --> 01:16:12,110 He was the star eyewitness. He was the only eyewitness. 1099 01:16:12,190 --> 01:16:15,670 Uh, he went missing in March 2011, 1100 01:16:15,750 --> 01:16:18,590 six days before he was supposed to depose before the court. 1101 01:16:18,710 --> 01:16:22,550 [man, in Hindi] Anil Bheda disappeared right before he had to testify. 1102 01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:24,270 Anil Bheda was the key witness. 1103 01:16:24,350 --> 01:16:28,470 It's clear that Anil Bheda would have revealed the truth. 1104 01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:32,750 [in English] They found his body in New Bombay in a decomposed state. 1105 01:16:32,830 --> 01:16:35,990 So in the end, Pradeep Sharma was set free, 1106 01:16:36,070 --> 01:16:37,630 owing to lack of evidence. 1107 01:16:37,710 --> 01:16:40,350 [in Hindi] In the case of Lakhan Bhaiya's fake encounter, 1108 01:16:40,430 --> 01:16:42,350 Pradeep Sharma has been acquitted. 1109 01:16:42,990 --> 01:16:45,510 [reporter 1] Encounter specialist, Pradeep Sharma, 1110 01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:48,910 has been acquitted in the Lakhan Bhaiya fake encounter case. 1111 01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:53,670 [reporter 2] To hear the verdict, there were many people present in court. 1112 01:16:53,750 --> 01:16:56,310 Among them were a few policemen and lawyers. 1113 01:16:56,390 --> 01:16:58,750 All seemed to be shocked after the verdict. 1114 01:17:03,190 --> 01:17:06,390 He said, "Hussain, I had told you that I had not done this, 1115 01:17:06,470 --> 01:17:09,230 and now the court has accepted that I have not done it. " 1116 01:17:12,990 --> 01:17:15,550 [Sharma] I was punished for three-and-a-half years 1117 01:17:15,630 --> 01:17:17,230 for a crime I didn't commit. 1118 01:17:19,790 --> 01:17:22,990 But there is one quality of a hardcore police officer. 1119 01:17:23,070 --> 01:17:25,190 He never accepts defeat. 1120 01:17:28,710 --> 01:17:31,190 No matter how much you push a police officer down, 1121 01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:33,750 he'll always bounce back. 1122 01:17:36,910 --> 01:17:39,510 [Kishore, in English] Sharma, when he was arrested, 1123 01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:42,990 there was a sense of elation in the underworld. 1124 01:17:43,950 --> 01:17:45,670 There was, like, joy. 1125 01:17:46,750 --> 01:17:49,870 [man on TV] Pradeep Sharma, a known encounter specialist, 1126 01:17:49,950 --> 01:17:52,230 was very recently reinstated in the police 1127 01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:56,310 after the charges against him were dropped in a fake encounter case. 1128 01:17:56,390 --> 01:17:59,990 When we all got to know that Pradeep Sharma was released from jail, 1129 01:18:00,990 --> 01:18:02,910 it did scare a lot of people. 1130 01:18:04,070 --> 01:18:07,950 I had thought that the tide had turned against the encounter cops. 1131 01:18:09,630 --> 01:18:11,870 But then suddenly, now he is back. 1132 01:18:13,470 --> 01:18:15,590 Fear factor was there, very much there. 1133 01:18:17,270 --> 01:18:18,510 I was very glad. 1134 01:18:18,590 --> 01:18:20,870 I was very glad that I was out of the company. 1135 01:18:22,030 --> 01:18:24,510 Because nobody knew what would happen. 1136 01:18:32,150 --> 01:18:35,430 [Sharma, in Hindi] When I came out, nobody wanted to associate with me 1137 01:18:35,510 --> 01:18:37,030 because of the controversies. 1138 01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:44,470 After that, I was posted in the district of Thane. 1139 01:18:45,990 --> 01:18:51,030 We believed that Iqbal Kaskar was running an extortion ring over there. 1140 01:18:52,750 --> 01:18:54,910 Iqbal is Dawood Ibrahim's brother. 1141 01:18:56,350 --> 01:19:02,150 Well, yes, for a person like Iqbal, who is the main player of the syndicate. 1142 01:19:02,230 --> 01:19:04,310 So, we planned our team. 1143 01:19:05,030 --> 01:19:09,350 We needed to adopt different tactics. 1144 01:19:11,990 --> 01:19:14,150 Iqbal had seven to eight guards downstairs. 1145 01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:17,990 In case any police officer came upstairs, 1146 01:19:18,870 --> 01:19:21,510 they would phone him or ring a bell 1147 01:19:22,270 --> 01:19:25,990 to alert him and he would escape down an alleyway. 1148 01:19:30,270 --> 01:19:32,110 We managed all those guys. 1149 01:19:34,030 --> 01:19:36,150 We held them and went upstairs. 1150 01:19:42,510 --> 01:19:45,150 A female officer went in front in civilian clothes. 1151 01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:51,030 So, it was like, "Some lady is here wearing a headscarf. " 1152 01:19:51,670 --> 01:19:53,950 As soon as the door opened, we went in. 1153 01:20:01,670 --> 01:20:05,190 Iqbal was eating biryani while watching TV. 1154 01:20:06,430 --> 01:20:08,430 Then I said, "Iqbal, come on, let's go. " 1155 01:20:09,070 --> 01:20:11,190 He said, "Sir, can I finish my food first?" 1156 01:20:14,550 --> 01:20:16,590 I said, "Yes, eat and then we'll go. " 1157 01:20:16,670 --> 01:20:18,670 That was the only conversation we had. 1158 01:20:21,070 --> 01:20:23,390 [reporter 1, in English] A success story for the police. 1159 01:20:23,470 --> 01:20:27,190 Encounter specialist, Pradeep Sharma, arrested a fugitive underworld don, 1160 01:20:27,270 --> 01:20:28,990 Dawood Ibrahim's brother, Iqbal Kaskar. 1161 01:20:29,070 --> 01:20:33,350 [reporter 2] Dawood Ibrahim's brother, Iqbal Kaskar, has been detained in Mumbai… 1162 01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:35,750 That was a stunt. That was a clear stunt. 1163 01:20:35,870 --> 01:20:39,110 [reporter 2] The man in charge of the investigation is encounter specialist, 1164 01:20:39,630 --> 01:20:40,510 Pradeep Sharma, 1165 01:20:41,470 --> 01:20:43,910 recently reinstated in the police force 1166 01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:46,790 after being acquitted in a fake encounter case. 1167 01:20:46,870 --> 01:20:49,910 [Tejpal] The news crews conveniently landed up, photographs happened, 1168 01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:50,870 everything happened. 1169 01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:53,430 [in Hindi] We have an encounter specialist, Pradeep Sharma. 1170 01:20:53,990 --> 01:20:58,110 Sir, tell us about the operation, such a big operation. 1171 01:20:58,710 --> 01:21:01,670 [Zaidi, in English] Iqbal Kaskar, he was not such a big fry. 1172 01:21:01,750 --> 01:21:03,470 He was only a sibling of Dawood, 1173 01:21:03,550 --> 01:21:06,190 but he was not some kingpin of some big racket. 1174 01:21:06,270 --> 01:21:10,350 The Kaskar surname is always good for front pages. 1175 01:21:15,990 --> 01:21:19,110 I think the only reason Pradeep Sharma did it 1176 01:21:19,190 --> 01:21:22,590 is just to let people know that, "Hey, I've changed. " 1177 01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:27,070 [in Hindi] I have executed much bigger operations than this. 1178 01:21:27,150 --> 01:21:32,270 But to go there and arrest him without any protest 1179 01:21:32,350 --> 01:21:34,230 was an achievement in itself. 1180 01:21:35,870 --> 01:21:39,790 [Changoiwala, in English] As the man who had around 100 encounters to his name, 1181 01:21:40,470 --> 01:21:43,870 Iqbal Kaskar's arrest seemed to be an opportunity 1182 01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:47,350 to show a little bit of reformation 1183 01:21:47,430 --> 01:21:50,070 as a cop who had evolved over time. 1184 01:21:50,590 --> 01:21:52,710 [Sharma, in Hindi] No one likes to be associated 1185 01:21:52,790 --> 01:21:54,870 with the term "encounter cop"' or "encounter. " 1186 01:21:54,950 --> 01:21:58,910 We have solved all sorts of cases and caught several criminals, 1187 01:21:58,990 --> 01:22:00,470 thousands of criminals. 1188 01:22:01,230 --> 01:22:04,470 [in English] This is a major blow to the Dawood Ibrahim gang. 1189 01:22:04,550 --> 01:22:06,830 [Sharma, in Hindi] We have got Dawood living in fear. 1190 01:22:06,910 --> 01:22:09,030 Nobody is being troubled anymore. 1191 01:22:09,910 --> 01:22:12,710 Before doing any activity, he will think 25 times. 1192 01:22:19,070 --> 01:22:21,550 [man, in English] The guns are largely silent now. 1193 01:22:21,630 --> 01:22:26,270 Many of Bombay's gangsters are dead, in hiding, or under arrest. 1194 01:22:27,550 --> 01:22:30,950 [Khan] I would think that by killing a few persons, 1195 01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:33,030 I managed to remove terror. 1196 01:22:33,110 --> 01:22:36,190 I managed to allow people to live their normal lives. 1197 01:22:38,310 --> 01:22:41,950 Subsequently, what happened with these so-called encounter specialists, 1198 01:22:42,030 --> 01:22:44,190 they did it for an ulterior motive. 1199 01:22:48,110 --> 01:22:53,270 Now today, unfortunately, if anyone says "encounter, " 1200 01:22:53,350 --> 01:22:56,030 the hackles would rise that it's something criminal. 1201 01:22:58,510 --> 01:23:02,710 But I very proudly say, 1202 01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:05,750 not a single one of my encounters 1203 01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:11,350 was conducted in a hush-hush manner or in the middle of the night. 1204 01:23:14,150 --> 01:23:17,470 See, killing a human being, in any case, is not easy. 1205 01:23:18,430 --> 01:23:20,350 But if you justify yourself 1206 01:23:20,430 --> 01:23:23,670 that you're doing something for public good, you can cope. 1207 01:23:30,390 --> 01:23:34,150 [Angre, in Hindi] Bringing peace to people, yes, I feel proud. 1208 01:23:35,110 --> 01:23:37,710 The identity as Ravindra Angre that I have got 1209 01:23:37,790 --> 01:23:41,270 is from all the encounters I have done for the police department. 1210 01:23:43,070 --> 01:23:48,270 But politicians and big officers employ a use-and-throw policy. 1211 01:23:48,830 --> 01:23:50,710 They will throw you in a ditch. 1212 01:23:51,350 --> 01:23:52,630 What can you do? 1213 01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:55,230 [interviewer] Do you feel bad about it? 1214 01:23:55,310 --> 01:23:56,430 I feel angry. 1215 01:23:56,510 --> 01:23:58,550 Only a coward feels bad. 1216 01:23:58,630 --> 01:23:59,950 I feel angry. 1217 01:24:04,910 --> 01:24:09,470 [Sharma] When crime escalates, police are given freedom. 1218 01:24:10,430 --> 01:24:12,510 But when crime gets under control, 1219 01:24:13,110 --> 01:24:15,870 encounter cops are no longer needed. 1220 01:24:16,830 --> 01:24:19,230 So they are removed from the system. 1221 01:24:22,150 --> 01:24:25,390 What I have said, no one else will talk so frankly. 1222 01:24:27,310 --> 01:24:29,390 No, what I mean is, no police officer 1223 01:24:29,470 --> 01:24:31,870 wants any kind of trouble with their senior officers. 105780

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