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Tonight
on "Beyond Skinwalker Ranch"...
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Whatever you see,
it's a very good chance
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that it can do something
so dramatic that,
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you'll know without a doubt.
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Well, look, look,
everybody, look, look.
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- Whoa!
- Wow. I saw that.
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I began to see
what looked like the sun.
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When it appeared, it shot.
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The fear just rolled over me.
You see it coming?
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- Here it comes.
- This is unprecedented,
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to capture it in real time.
Nobody has done this before.
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For years,
scientists have been working
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to reveal the secrets
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible that
the clues to unlock the mystery
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are located beyond the borders
of this hub of high strangeness?
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- Now...
- Whoa.
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An ex-CIA agent
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and a veteran journalist
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have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high stakes mission
across America.
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Look at all this activity
that's happened.
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- That's unbelievable.
- My gosh.
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Look at that. Look at that,
look at that, look at that.
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The goal uncover evidence that
may finally expose the truth.
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- What is that thing?
- It's getting more intense.
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You ever seen
anything like this before?
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No.
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This is just the beginning.
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Paul and Andy, it's good to have
you back at the table again.
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Can't wait to see
what you've got in store.
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Well,
this one's a little different.
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This is really about a story
of high strangeness
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that originates not
with a place, but with a person.
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That's interesting.
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So, you know
Colonel John Alexander?
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I do.
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He was with
NIDS and BAASS, right?
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Yeah.
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So, Colonel Alexander
connected us
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with an individual
by the name of Chris Bledsoe.
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So, during Colonel Alexander's
time as a researcher,
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he came across a story
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in which Bledsoe had
some kind of encounter.
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And do you have a description
of what that encounter entailed?
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As we understand it,
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there was some sort
of experience that Chris had
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in a river valley close
to his home in North Carolina.
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Right. The Cape Fear River.
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And from that experience
that was documented
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and reported
by multiple eyewitnesses,
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there were orb sightings,
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there were potential
other life forms
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that were on site as well.
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And Chris had hours of
lost time during this experience
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where he was missing,
and others were looking for him.
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What was the time period
when this encounter took place?
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The initial encounter that Chris
experienced was in 2007.
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Okay.
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And then very shortly
thereafter, just days after,
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he seemed to have
a continuing, predictable,
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and recurring relationship
with some kind of orb activity.
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Here's a guy
who purports to have some kind
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of connection with UAPs or orbs.
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And then
what's really striking is,
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once Colonel Alexander
and Bledsoe had connected,
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they went back to the scene of
Bledsoe's original experience,
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and Colonel Alexander
had his own experience.
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Right?
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Now, that's interesting.
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John's never said anything
about that to me.
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So, after Colonel Alexander
introduced us to Chris,
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Chris actually welcomed us
to come out and visit,
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and then he sent us
a clip of a recording that
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- he had made just days prior.
- Okay.
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And I wanna share that with you.
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See?
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That was an orb in the tree.
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Look at wow.
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I mean, that looks like
it's behind a tree limb
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right there.
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But before you do that,
it doesn't.
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Now, admittedly,
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the focus isn't great
in this particular piece,
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but whatever that thing is,
it's bright.
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Yeah.
I mean, and the question is,
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is there data that we can gather
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while he's, you know,
having this experience,
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while he's, you know,
making this connection
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to these orbs that he reports?
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I'll just tell you,
based on your results to date,
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if anyone can begin
with a narrative like that,
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where we've
got anecdotal information
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and then take it into
the data-generating regime,
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you're the guys to do it.
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- All right.
- Great, guys.
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Go forth
and come back with great stuff.
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- All right.
- Sounds good. Thanks, guys.
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Sunny Fayetteville.
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- But I'm excited about this.
- Yeah, you know,
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this is the first time
that we've had a chance
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to take our investigation to
a person instead of a place.
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And it's really interesting
because,
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you know,
Chris has been researched before
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by very legitimate scientists...
NASA, CIA investigators,
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DIA investigators,
FBI investigators.
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He's probably
the most credible person
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in the experience or space
to have ever been studied.
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The thing that also
is interesting about Chris is
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he is clearly not someone
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who is in this
for the publicity, right?
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This has been going on for him
since 200716 years.
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He is very private about this,
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and so this is
a unique opportunity for us.
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It's almost like
we're really, I think,
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the first camera crew that he's
spoken to in years and years.
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- All right, man.
- There he is.
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Yeah. There's Chris.
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- Hey, Chris.
- Hey, hey.
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- Paul.
- Paul. A pleasure.
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- I'm so excited to meet you.
- Yeah, same here.
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- Andy. It's great to meet you.
- Andy, good to meet you.
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I'm honored.
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Can you describe what types
of phenomenon it is
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that you're experiencing
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and what types
you see the most often?
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90% of it is light...
Balls of fire, what I call orbs.
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I basically reported
these 40-foot balls of fire.
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- 40-foot?
- 40 foot around, yeah.
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- Wow.
- That's massive.
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That was on this very river.
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In 2007,
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it came out of the sky, and...
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Were you still seeing it
on a daily basis
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and trying to just come to terms
with what was happening?
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Yeah. It's been
a 16-year journey
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of experiencing this,
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and it's only been uplifting
to me,
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even though it set
my life upside down
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for the first five years,
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and our whole family.
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And I got rejected from
everybody in the community,
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so it kind of
isolated my family.
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Everyone began
to make fun of my kids.
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People would pick on 'em
in school
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and church and all around town,
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which actually pulled us
together closer.
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They've never wavered.
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I've never wavered from...
From that point.
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We normally carry out
investigations
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with a lot of science
and a lot of technical tools.
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You know, we've got
a truck full ofof gear,
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but in a way, it's really
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gonna be a different posture
that Andy and I take.
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You know, we're really gonna
follow your lead
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and try to just participate.
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Whatever you see,
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reserve judgment
and humble yourself.
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It's a very good chance
that it can do something
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so dramatic that,
you'll know without a doubt.
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After their initial meeting,
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Andy and Paul head
down the Cape Fear River
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with Chris, his son, Chris Jr.,
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and longtime friend
Colonel John Alexander.
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Chris is taking the team
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to the location
where he and Chris Jr.
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Encountered strange phenomena
on January 7, 2007.
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Now, how often do
you guys still, as a family,
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come down
to the Cape Fear River?
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I haven't been on this water
since,
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it happened 16 years ago.
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But John and I went
to the river.
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The night that we had
the experience together,
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we didn't go on the water.
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We just drove down
and walked down to the bank.
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We didn't have any expectations.
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Chris just took us down
to the river and said,
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"Here's where this happened,
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and here's where
that's happened."
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And then we had walked
back up to the car
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that was parked up
near the field,
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and we were continuing there
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with what I thought was
a benign conversation
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until he said,
"I think they're here."
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And with that,
this thing pops into view
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and goes zipping off
to the south.
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- I had heard the story.
- Right.
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The difference now was
it happened to me.
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Okay. I mean,
that that says something.
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You see how the trees up on
that bank are clear behind it?
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- Yeah.
- That's kind of the way it was
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- when the orbs landed.
- It was like that?
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Yeah.
Right up on top of that hill.
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It was a cool day,
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and it was my son, Chris Jr.,
and three other guys,
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and they asked me,
"You wanna go fishing today?"
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My mind wasn't
into fishing at all.
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I was worried about everything.
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I had lost my business,
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and I was worried
about supporting my family.
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But Chris Jr. wanted to go,
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so I agreed to take him
to the Cape Fear River.
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They set their poles up
and was just enjoying the day.
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I asked 'em. I said,
"Do you guys wanna go home?
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They're like,
"Hey, we wanna fish.
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We're just gettin' started."
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I said, "Well,
it's gonna be cold tonight,
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so we might better
get a fire started."
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They were sitting there,
fire going, and I said,
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"I'll be back about dark.
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I just want to go out
and look for wildlife,"
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never telling them
what was happening,
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what I was thinking
and struggling with.
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I left 'em, and I got 50 feet
into this road leading out,
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and the whole time, I'm crying
out to whoever can hear me,
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"What do I do? I need help.
I don't know what to do."
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Right there,
right on that bank to our left.
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I walked away from them
to head up to the field,
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which is that way west of here.
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The minute I started
walking down that path
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is when I heard somethin'
in the woods.
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Maybe 20 feet
from the top of the hill,
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I began to see
what looked like the sun.
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And this fire was swirling,
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and these little flames
were shooting off of it,
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and it's it's going,
in this direction.
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And the higher I got, the...
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My peripheral vision
began to widen.
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I began to see
the top of this thing,
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and suddenly I'm seeing
a top of a second one.
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I have
a commercial pilot's license,
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and that matters because
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I've seen
a lot of stuff in the sky,
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that I never...
I never thought about UFOs,
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but I knew
it wasn't anything that we had.
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And the fear just...
Just rolled over me.
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I was thinking
it was going to harm me.
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I didn't know.
I didn't know what it was.
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As I made it
to the top of that hill,
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I walked up on these two
40-foot glowing balls of fire.
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The first thing I thought of
was my son.
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"I'd better get back to him.
I have got to run."
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And when
I made that decision to run,
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I turned my body,
and I looked back.
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When I did, it saw me.
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Within a second,
there was a third
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40-foot glowing
orange ball of fire
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sitting beside the other two.
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When it appeared, it shot.
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We were all doing
our thing, fishing,
250
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and, next thing you know,
Dad was gone.
251
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He decided to go his own way.
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I started to worry about him.
253
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He'd been gone a while,
254
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and I wanted to know
where he was, so...
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And I ended up
in the woods alone.
256
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I, walked up the embankment
and was looking down this path.
257
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I saw what to be two
red balls of light glowing,
258
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just hovering above the ground.
259
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I couldn't move or...
Or scream or yell,
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and I was trying to do
all those things.
261
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I was freaking out inside.
262
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It knew I was there.
263
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You know, I thought they were
gonna come come get me.
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The next thing I remember
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is I'm about 50 yards
from the fire.
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So, as I'm trotting up
to these guys standing there,
267
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they're not fishing anymore.
268
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They're just standing
around the fire, looking down,
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talking quietly.
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I come trotting up to 'em.
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I'm like, "You guys
won't believe what I just saw."
272
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And one said, "Where in
the world have you been?
273
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We've been looking at you
all night."
274
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And I said, "my Lord.
Where's Chris Jr.?"
275
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They said, "Well, he went back
the same way
276
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you did earlier in the day.
277
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He went back on foot
looking for you."
278
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I took off running,
shouting for Junior.
279
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I remember my dad
yelling my name,
280
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and I was able to run out.
281
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He was
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um... he was a mess.
283
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And when I found him, um,
284
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The first thing he said is,
285
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"Why'd you leave me?
286
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Where you been, Daddy?"
287
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I said,
"I didn't leave you, son.
288
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I've only been gone 20 minutes."
289
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He said, "No, dad,
you've been gone all night.
290
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All night.
I've been looking for you."
291
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And he was he was in shock.
292
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I told Dadl was like,
293
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"You won't freaking believe
what I just saw."
294
00:13:49,667 --> 00:13:52,333
We both said
at the exact same time,
295
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"I saw a UFO." We were both
saying that at the same time.
296
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I wasn't afraid of it.
297
00:13:58,792 --> 00:14:01,125
Um... after I came back,
298
00:14:01,208 --> 00:14:04,542
I couldn't understand why
it didn't frighten me
299
00:14:04,625 --> 00:14:06,250
like it did before.
300
00:14:06,333 --> 00:14:11,833
I actually wanted to see it
again every night of my life.
301
00:14:11,917 --> 00:14:14,292
I described it
as 45 to 50 feet long,
302
00:14:14,375 --> 00:14:17,958
hovering sideways,
crossways of the road.
303
00:14:18,042 --> 00:14:19,875
And then when it did...
304
00:14:21,958 --> 00:14:25,000
There's an orb right here,
coming at us right here.
305
00:14:25,083 --> 00:14:27,000
See it? Everybody got it?
It's pretty bright.
306
00:14:27,042 --> 00:14:29,083
- Yeah.
- Right above us.
307
00:14:29,167 --> 00:14:30,667
- Yeah.
- Yeah. Yeah.
308
00:14:30,708 --> 00:14:32,434
You see it right there?
309
00:14:32,458 --> 00:14:36,583
I would ask if you would
give us some sort of sign,
310
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brighten up for us or flash us
and...
311
00:14:40,292 --> 00:14:42,208
There's another one.
Yeah, here's another one.
312
00:14:42,292 --> 00:14:44,333
Look, there's one
coming straight at us.
313
00:14:44,417 --> 00:14:47,458
There's two. It just...
It dimmed out on us.
314
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I did. I saw that, too.
315
00:14:49,042 --> 00:14:50,019
The other one
was coming straight at us,
316
00:14:50,043 --> 00:14:52,000
and it faded away as well.
317
00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:53,208
When I first met Chris,
318
00:14:53,292 --> 00:14:55,667
I was really taken
by his manner.
319
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He just seems like
such a genuine person.
320
00:14:58,042 --> 00:15:00,000
But I got to say, I was
still a little skeptical
321
00:15:00,042 --> 00:15:02,000
about the whole phenomenon.
322
00:15:02,083 --> 00:15:04,167
You know, I need to see this
to believe it.
323
00:15:04,208 --> 00:15:06,917
And sure enough,
these orbs are appearing.
324
00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,583
I don't know what we're seeing,
but it's happening.
325
00:15:12,500 --> 00:15:15,167
Whoa. That was
a very powerful shooting flash.
326
00:15:15,292 --> 00:15:18,000
It just wanted us
to see it briefly
327
00:15:18,083 --> 00:15:22,000
and see, it just
answered my voice, I'm sure.
328
00:15:22,042 --> 00:15:23,708
- I call him streaker.
- Streak.
329
00:15:23,792 --> 00:15:25,500
It's exactly
what it looked like.
330
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After visiting the location
on the Cape Fear River
331
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where Chris Bledsoe had
his first experience seeing
332
00:15:36,375 --> 00:15:39,958
what he believes
were multiple UFOs,
333
00:15:40,042 --> 00:15:42,167
Andy and Paul have
chosen a neutral site
334
00:15:42,333 --> 00:15:44,625
20 miles away
from Bledsoe's home
335
00:15:44,708 --> 00:15:45,750
to test his claims
336
00:15:45,833 --> 00:15:47,792
of a continued connection
337
00:15:47,875 --> 00:15:49,833
with orbs in the sky.
338
00:15:49,958 --> 00:15:52,667
You said it took you a while
to kind of process
339
00:15:52,750 --> 00:15:54,500
what you had experienced.
340
00:15:54,625 --> 00:15:56,917
Did you start having visits?
341
00:15:57,042 --> 00:15:58,708
Itltlt never stopped.
342
00:15:58,792 --> 00:16:02,000
It immediately came home
with me.
343
00:16:02,083 --> 00:16:04,292
That very night it came home,
344
00:16:04,375 --> 00:16:08,167
and I experienced it
in the backyard.
345
00:16:08,250 --> 00:16:10,667
This is when things started.
346
00:16:10,750 --> 00:16:12,500
See that?
347
00:16:12,583 --> 00:16:14,667
There's an orb right there.
348
00:16:14,708 --> 00:16:16,833
Orbs are showing up, hovering
over my backyard.
349
00:16:16,875 --> 00:16:18,792
Is it moving?
350
00:16:18,875 --> 00:16:21,000
It was way up here
at the top of the trees.
351
00:16:21,083 --> 00:16:23,667
Orbs, some of 'em big
as beach balls,
352
00:16:23,750 --> 00:16:26,000
just floating through the trees.
353
00:16:26,083 --> 00:16:31,667
Never before could I do that
before this event.
354
00:16:31,708 --> 00:16:33,333
For tonight's experiment,
355
00:16:33,417 --> 00:16:35,833
Andy and Paul will be using
an AI-powered camera
356
00:16:35,917 --> 00:16:38,208
called a UFODAP.
357
00:16:38,292 --> 00:16:41,208
This system of two cameras
puts nonstop eyes on the sky
358
00:16:41,292 --> 00:16:44,042
and can track objects
to identify
359
00:16:44,125 --> 00:16:47,351
whether it's captured
a plane, satellite, or star,
360
00:16:47,375 --> 00:16:50,792
or if it's locked on to
an unknown aerial phenomenon.
361
00:17:08,042 --> 00:17:09,750
So, what I'm doing
362
00:17:12,292 --> 00:17:14,958
is I'm broadcasting
363
00:17:15,042 --> 00:17:18,333
my intentions
in every direction.
364
00:17:21,042 --> 00:17:22,375
And I'm asking 'em to come
365
00:17:22,500 --> 00:17:26,542
and share their experience
tonight with us.
366
00:17:26,625 --> 00:17:29,708
And, um,
367
00:17:29,875 --> 00:17:33,583
and sometimes immediately,
they come,
368
00:17:33,667 --> 00:17:37,000
and then sometimes
it might be a few minutes.
369
00:17:39,792 --> 00:17:41,500
We have to be ready.
370
00:17:49,083 --> 00:17:51,125
I just saw a flash right there.
371
00:17:51,208 --> 00:17:53,125
Look. Here it comes.
I'm pointing at it.
372
00:17:53,208 --> 00:17:54,583
- Yeah.
- See it?
373
00:17:54,708 --> 00:17:56,042
I-I see it.
374
00:18:03,042 --> 00:18:05,458
I send out a thought, and, um...
375
00:18:08,292 --> 00:18:10,833
And sometimes,
immediately they come.
376
00:18:12,500 --> 00:18:15,292
And then sometimes
it might be a few minutes.
377
00:18:15,375 --> 00:18:19,167
Andy and Paul are with
Chris Bledsoe at a neutral site
378
00:18:19,292 --> 00:18:21,500
alongside the Cape Fear River,
379
00:18:21,583 --> 00:18:23,183
where they will try
to observe and record
380
00:18:23,208 --> 00:18:25,018
his claimed interactions
381
00:18:25,042 --> 00:18:27,667
with orb phenomena in the sky.
382
00:18:27,792 --> 00:18:29,542
They're also using
an AI-powered camera
383
00:18:29,625 --> 00:18:32,833
that can detect
anomalous aerial objects.
384
00:18:32,958 --> 00:18:34,583
It's getting close to time.
385
00:18:45,667 --> 00:18:47,500
Not sure.
386
00:18:48,750 --> 00:18:51,375
It's... It's time right now.
387
00:18:54,542 --> 00:18:56,000
Here it comes.
388
00:18:57,625 --> 00:19:00,143
You see it coming?
I'm pointing at it.
389
00:19:00,167 --> 00:19:00,958
- Yeah.
- See it?
390
00:19:01,042 --> 00:19:02,500
I-I see it. Wow.
391
00:19:02,542 --> 00:19:03,750
Yeah.
392
00:19:06,375 --> 00:19:08,083
What the hell?
393
00:19:08,167 --> 00:19:10,083
I don't know what this is.
394
00:19:14,917 --> 00:19:17,042
Paul and I have done
a lot of experimentation,
395
00:19:17,125 --> 00:19:19,333
and it takes a long time
for things to happen.
396
00:19:19,417 --> 00:19:21,458
That's kind of how
experimentation works.
397
00:19:21,542 --> 00:19:25,000
But for some reason with Chris,
within just a few minutes,
398
00:19:25,042 --> 00:19:29,625
I am already seeing some sort
of unknown aerial phenomenon.
399
00:19:29,708 --> 00:19:32,351
And it's not just me.
It's not just my two eyes.
400
00:19:32,375 --> 00:19:34,042
Now we got one right here. Ooh!
401
00:19:34,125 --> 00:19:36,792
- Ooh, look.
- Wow. I saw that.
402
00:19:36,875 --> 00:19:38,458
- You see that?
- Yeah, that was... wow.
403
00:19:38,542 --> 00:19:40,833
Orb all the way across the sky.
404
00:19:40,917 --> 00:19:42,333
Our entire camera crew
405
00:19:42,375 --> 00:19:45,667
is watching
with our jaws on the floor.
406
00:19:49,208 --> 00:19:50,667
That was...
407
00:19:52,250 --> 00:19:53,650
That was
an incredible thing to see.
408
00:19:53,708 --> 00:19:56,500
It's just beginning.
Do you all see it?
409
00:19:56,583 --> 00:19:58,000
It's back.
410
00:19:58,083 --> 00:19:59,708
This is what we're looking for,
411
00:19:59,792 --> 00:20:02,792
and so I suspect
we may see a whole lot more.
412
00:20:05,208 --> 00:20:07,292
And do you see the...
413
00:20:07,375 --> 00:20:10,250
That's an airplane there.
I'm sorry. It's the airplane.
414
00:20:10,375 --> 00:20:11,893
It looks nothing like
the aircraft at all.
415
00:20:11,917 --> 00:20:13,167
It's extremely bright.
416
00:20:13,208 --> 00:20:14,667
Yeah, the aircraft's
on the bottom.
417
00:20:18,458 --> 00:20:20,667
That's why I was facing
this direction.
418
00:20:20,792 --> 00:20:23,667
I just sensed this is where
it was gonna start.
419
00:20:23,708 --> 00:20:25,875
It's not dark enough
to see a satellite.
420
00:20:25,958 --> 00:20:28,417
No, no, it's not
a satellite. I saw it appear.
421
00:20:28,542 --> 00:20:31,417
Thank you.
422
00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:34,625
Always give 'em thanks.
They hear your thoughts.
423
00:20:34,708 --> 00:20:37,667
They know what you're
gonna say before you say it.
424
00:20:37,708 --> 00:20:40,125
They know the direction you're
gonna look before you look it.
425
00:20:40,208 --> 00:20:41,500
Look.
426
00:20:41,542 --> 00:20:44,000
- See it going away?
- Absolutely.
427
00:20:44,042 --> 00:20:47,500
I don't think they're coming
from some other far place.
428
00:20:47,542 --> 00:20:50,208
They're here.
They're part of this earth.
429
00:20:50,292 --> 00:20:52,583
We have the clouds
setting in again.
430
00:20:52,667 --> 00:20:54,667
- Right.
- But it makes me wanna take
431
00:20:54,750 --> 00:20:57,500
a peek at what the UFODAP
may have collected
432
00:20:57,542 --> 00:21:00,500
- while we had the clear skies.
- We could.
433
00:21:00,542 --> 00:21:02,708
- All right. So, Chris?
- Yes, sir.
434
00:21:02,833 --> 00:21:04,518
What we're going to do
is look at each camera
435
00:21:04,542 --> 00:21:06,833
and see
what they may have captured.
436
00:21:06,917 --> 00:21:08,375
- Okay.
- All right.
437
00:21:08,458 --> 00:21:09,809
One of the benefits
of this technology
438
00:21:09,833 --> 00:21:13,792
is if it can rule out
that it's unidentified,
439
00:21:13,875 --> 00:21:17,000
if it can rule it as something
known, it'll stop recording.
440
00:21:17,083 --> 00:21:18,625
- It won't...
- Get outta here. Really?
441
00:21:18,708 --> 00:21:20,059
It won't take any space
on something that's known.
442
00:21:20,083 --> 00:21:22,833
It's high-tech.
443
00:21:22,875 --> 00:21:24,684
- We try to keep it that way.
- Let's see here.
444
00:21:24,708 --> 00:21:27,625
All right.
445
00:21:31,542 --> 00:21:33,375
- Look at that.
- Wow.
446
00:21:33,458 --> 00:21:34,792
Yeah,
it captured it right there.
447
00:21:34,875 --> 00:21:36,750
And you can see the red block,
Chris?
448
00:21:36,875 --> 00:21:39,292
- Tracking it.
- The red box is the UFODAP
449
00:21:39,375 --> 00:21:41,917
collecting and tracking
the object in the sky.
450
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,667
Wow. Incredible.
451
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:46,167
This is how we learn
what we're dealing with
452
00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:48,833
through science is important.
453
00:21:48,917 --> 00:21:50,292
Yeah.
454
00:21:50,375 --> 00:21:53,042
What we've got here, Chris,
is watch...
455
00:21:53,125 --> 00:21:55,458
It tracks it across,
456
00:21:55,542 --> 00:21:57,833
And then final composite ID...
Unknown.
457
00:21:57,875 --> 00:21:59,667
So, it doesn't know
what that is.
458
00:21:59,708 --> 00:22:01,625
Right. We know what it was.
459
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,792
This is This is unprecedented.
460
00:22:05,875 --> 00:22:08,542
To capture it in real time,
actually, by request...
461
00:22:08,625 --> 00:22:10,333
- Yeah.
- From you,
462
00:22:10,417 --> 00:22:13,417
analyzing it real time
and confirming that it is not...
463
00:22:13,542 --> 00:22:17,917
It is not in a known database
of aerial phenomenon,
464
00:22:18,042 --> 00:22:19,542
nobody has done this before.
465
00:22:19,625 --> 00:22:21,583
It's just the beginning.
466
00:22:25,833 --> 00:22:30,417
Chris' relationship
with this phenomenon is uncanny.
467
00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:32,500
- Yeah.
- Every time he's taken us out,
468
00:22:32,542 --> 00:22:35,208
he's been able to establish
some kind of connection
469
00:22:35,292 --> 00:22:38,333
and create a scenario
where we can
470
00:22:38,417 --> 00:22:40,292
see the phenomenon
right there with him.
471
00:22:40,375 --> 00:22:42,500
I have to point out that...
472
00:22:42,542 --> 00:22:44,476
There's an orb right here
coming at us right here.
473
00:22:44,500 --> 00:22:46,500
See it? Everybody got it?
It's pretty bright.
474
00:22:46,542 --> 00:22:50,000
Tracking right
toward Orion right now.
475
00:22:50,083 --> 00:22:51,601
If you think about it,
he has had multiple experiences
476
00:22:51,625 --> 00:22:53,833
where he's been able to share
477
00:22:53,958 --> 00:22:58,333
his experience and share his...
His gift with others.
478
00:22:58,417 --> 00:23:00,833
- Yeah.
- See? It's coming.
479
00:23:00,958 --> 00:23:02,878
And this is it. I've been
putting out my thoughts
480
00:23:02,917 --> 00:23:04,458
in this direction.
481
00:23:04,542 --> 00:23:06,262
That is high,
and it's just dimming out now,
482
00:23:06,333 --> 00:23:08,375
but it's just starting.
483
00:23:08,458 --> 00:23:10,101
So, I think what I wanna
try to understand now,
484
00:23:10,125 --> 00:23:12,625
I mean,
now that we've seen this,
485
00:23:12,708 --> 00:23:14,184
is what is happening
for him internally?
486
00:23:14,208 --> 00:23:15,917
Right.
487
00:23:16,042 --> 00:23:18,500
What is he thinking and feeling
488
00:23:18,625 --> 00:23:20,708
during this unique experience,
right?
489
00:23:20,833 --> 00:23:24,458
But then he also has
this very deliberate process
490
00:23:24,542 --> 00:23:27,583
by which he connects
to trigger the phenomenon.
491
00:23:27,667 --> 00:23:29,708
- Right.
- And that seems like something
492
00:23:29,792 --> 00:23:31,917
that we should be able
to dig into with science.
493
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,559
We can get
inside his head literally
494
00:23:34,583 --> 00:23:38,167
in real time, and we run
some kind of brain scan.
495
00:23:38,250 --> 00:23:40,042
Whatever it is he's doing,
496
00:23:40,167 --> 00:23:43,208
we'll be able to put
some data to that experience.
497
00:23:43,292 --> 00:23:46,208
Yeah. The best tool for any
kind of brain energy is called
498
00:23:46,292 --> 00:23:47,518
- the electroencephalogram.
- Right.
499
00:23:47,542 --> 00:23:48,833
- The EEG.
- Right.
500
00:23:48,917 --> 00:23:51,000
We can create
an experiment with an EEG
501
00:23:51,125 --> 00:23:54,542
that allows him to execute
his process as normal,
502
00:23:54,667 --> 00:23:56,792
and we can actually see
the activity in his brain.
503
00:23:56,875 --> 00:23:57,875
Right.
504
00:23:57,958 --> 00:23:59,268
If we can validate
his experience,
505
00:23:59,292 --> 00:24:00,917
we have
a completely new data set
506
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,643
that we can send back
to the team at Skinwalker.
507
00:24:02,667 --> 00:24:03,768
That's what
I'm really curious to see.
508
00:24:03,792 --> 00:24:05,583
Is there a way to quantify
509
00:24:05,708 --> 00:24:08,083
what is happening
when he makes this connection?
510
00:24:08,167 --> 00:24:13,958
I think we've got our plan.
511
00:24:17,375 --> 00:24:18,643
Hey, that's a star right there,
right?
512
00:24:18,667 --> 00:24:22,417
Is that Jupiter popping out?
513
00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:25,000
- Yeah.
- Nice and steady and bright.
514
00:24:25,125 --> 00:24:26,667
The team has called in
515
00:24:26,750 --> 00:24:29,042
neuroscientist
Dr. James Thompson
516
00:24:29,125 --> 00:24:31,333
to help monitor
Chris' brainwaves
517
00:24:31,417 --> 00:24:32,917
and look for scientific evidence
518
00:24:33,042 --> 00:24:35,500
of a correlation
when the orbs appear.
519
00:24:35,625 --> 00:24:37,059
- Hello, sir. How are you?
- Good to meet you.
520
00:24:37,083 --> 00:24:38,351
- Faruk. Nice to see you.
- Faruk, thanks for being here.
521
00:24:38,375 --> 00:24:39,250
Thanks for helping us out
with this.
522
00:24:39,333 --> 00:24:40,708
Absolutely.
523
00:24:40,792 --> 00:24:44,042
So, this is
an electroencephalogram head cap
524
00:24:44,125 --> 00:24:47,167
able to measure electrical
activity in the brain.
525
00:24:47,250 --> 00:24:50,000
So, as messages and neurons
are firing in the brain,
526
00:24:50,083 --> 00:24:51,750
we get all that information
in real time,
527
00:24:51,833 --> 00:24:53,958
and we'd be able to see changes
528
00:24:54,042 --> 00:24:55,875
that occur
in the brainwave patterns.
529
00:24:55,958 --> 00:24:58,667
So, hearing we'll start
to see temporal lobes.
530
00:24:58,750 --> 00:25:00,500
Visual will be
in the back of the head.
531
00:25:00,583 --> 00:25:01,851
So, we'll start looking at what,
532
00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:03,458
areas of the brain
are lighting up,
533
00:25:03,542 --> 00:25:05,542
whether they're active,
or even shut down.
534
00:25:05,625 --> 00:25:07,333
- Right.
- So, the the bottom line here
535
00:25:07,417 --> 00:25:09,333
for all this, Chris,
is just do your thing.
536
00:25:09,417 --> 00:25:11,750
- Okay.
- That's it.
537
00:25:11,833 --> 00:25:15,167
An electroencephalogram, or EEG,
538
00:25:15,250 --> 00:25:18,000
uses electrodes on the scalp
to detect and record
539
00:25:18,042 --> 00:25:21,018
the location, frequency,
and strength
540
00:25:21,042 --> 00:25:24,667
of electrical signals sent
to different areas of the brain.
541
00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:27,667
This will give Andy and Paul
a real-time analysis
542
00:25:27,750 --> 00:25:31,667
during Chris's potential
interaction with the phenomenon.
543
00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:34,000
Would you like to sit down
so we can place this on you?
544
00:25:34,083 --> 00:25:35,434
- Right here? There, too?
- How about right there?
545
00:25:35,458 --> 00:25:37,292
Okay.
546
00:25:37,375 --> 00:25:40,833
When these things first started,
we were using pastes and glue,
547
00:25:40,875 --> 00:25:43,583
and you'd have
to clear areas of the hair...
548
00:25:43,667 --> 00:25:45,458
- Wow.
- Get inside,
549
00:25:45,542 --> 00:25:47,125
and they would be stuck
on the head.
550
00:25:47,208 --> 00:25:48,833
- Wow.
- With new technologies,
551
00:25:48,958 --> 00:25:51,167
new amplifiers,
these dry sensors can pick up
552
00:25:51,208 --> 00:25:54,250
high resolution activity
deep within through the skull.
553
00:25:54,333 --> 00:25:56,583
I mean, that's a huge advantage
for us in kind of
554
00:25:56,708 --> 00:25:58,268
understanding what
Chris is experiencing
555
00:25:58,292 --> 00:26:02,125
through data instead of just
through personal observation.
556
00:26:02,208 --> 00:26:04,917
And what we'll be able to
look at is how he's processing.
557
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,667
- Right. Right.
- So we don't know
558
00:26:06,750 --> 00:26:09,000
what he's thinking,
but we know how he's thinking.
559
00:26:09,042 --> 00:26:12,333
The muscles are all regulated
through electrical flow as well.
560
00:26:12,458 --> 00:26:14,698
So, I've asked Chris to try
and reduce any muscle tension
561
00:26:14,750 --> 00:26:16,430
through his forehead
and his jaw and things
562
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,542
- as we do the recording.
- Right.
563
00:26:18,625 --> 00:26:19,684
So if you can see
the signal now...
564
00:26:19,708 --> 00:26:21,684
This is live.
565
00:26:21,708 --> 00:26:24,917
We have 19 points that we're
recording from on the scalp.
566
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,667
We can actually
correlate the points
567
00:26:26,708 --> 00:26:28,308
and start to look
at deeper structures
568
00:26:29,542 --> 00:26:31,018
to see where the energy
is being sourced.
569
00:26:31,042 --> 00:26:32,833
There.
Now he's starting to relax.
570
00:26:32,875 --> 00:26:34,583
- The musculature.
- Wow, you can...
571
00:26:34,708 --> 00:26:36,292
You can really see it.
Look at that.
572
00:26:36,375 --> 00:26:37,625
There's energy flowing
573
00:26:37,750 --> 00:26:39,583
throughout all regions
of the brain.
574
00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:41,917
The brain is
communicating within itself
575
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,583
and within different regions,
but different regions are doing
576
00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:46,917
what we would expect them
to be doing,
577
00:26:47,042 --> 00:26:50,167
where he's calm,
relaxed, not overthinking.
578
00:26:50,250 --> 00:26:52,167
So, by all means,
what we're seeing right now
579
00:26:52,208 --> 00:26:54,833
- is a very normal brain.
- Very normal brain.
580
00:26:54,875 --> 00:26:56,708
So, Chris, if you could give
an indicator
581
00:26:56,792 --> 00:26:58,417
as we do the recording,
582
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:01,125
- maybe a hand up or something...
- Okay.
583
00:27:01,208 --> 00:27:04,292
Without disrupting the...
The signal in your scalp,
584
00:27:04,375 --> 00:27:05,655
that'll give us cleaner signals.
585
00:27:05,708 --> 00:27:07,625
- I'll do my best.
- Yes.
586
00:27:07,708 --> 00:27:09,583
Yeah, just give us
a couple of beats,
587
00:27:09,667 --> 00:27:11,267
and we'll track
wherever you're pointing.
588
00:27:11,375 --> 00:27:13,667
So, we'll keep recording.
We can have Chris move out
589
00:27:13,708 --> 00:27:16,167
and start to observe some orbs
and interact.
590
00:27:16,208 --> 00:27:17,667
- Great.
- Okay.
591
00:27:17,708 --> 00:27:19,468
I'll stay here.
I'll start working with this.
592
00:27:20,875 --> 00:27:22,500
You're comfortable?
593
00:27:22,625 --> 00:27:23,851
We're gonna leave you alone
for a little bit.
594
00:27:23,875 --> 00:27:25,268
- We'll follow your hand signals.
- Right.
595
00:27:25,292 --> 00:27:26,833
- Okay.
- Right? Good luck, sir.
596
00:27:26,875 --> 00:27:28,500
Thanks.
597
00:27:28,542 --> 00:27:31,667
Now that Chris's baseline
readings have been established,
598
00:27:31,750 --> 00:27:33,917
the team places him
out of earshot
599
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,292
and eye shot
of the EEG evaluation area.
600
00:27:37,375 --> 00:27:40,708
So, he's doing a good job
for us, now, staying still,
601
00:27:40,792 --> 00:27:43,083
and you can see
the frontal lobes
602
00:27:43,208 --> 00:27:45,667
are actually
not too active right now.
603
00:27:45,750 --> 00:27:48,833
His eyes are open.
His visual cortex is alert.
604
00:27:48,917 --> 00:27:50,708
- He's probably...
- He's scanning.
605
00:27:50,792 --> 00:27:52,208
Yeah, he's scanning it.
606
00:27:52,292 --> 00:27:54,292
What I'm saying in there
is that he's very relaxed,
607
00:27:54,375 --> 00:27:56,184
and he's not overthinking.
608
00:27:56,208 --> 00:27:58,167
- Which is exactly what we need.
- Exactly.
609
00:27:58,250 --> 00:27:59,417
Interesting. Okay.
610
00:28:10,583 --> 00:28:12,583
Just had a sighting.
We just had a sighting.
611
00:28:12,667 --> 00:28:14,667
- He's pointing.
- Wow.
612
00:28:14,708 --> 00:28:16,208
Bunch of movement there.
613
00:28:16,292 --> 00:28:19,250
Here we go. He's very engaged
with his visual cortex.
614
00:28:19,375 --> 00:28:20,875
- Yep. Yep.
- Interesting.
615
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,875
The left hemisphere
and right hemisphere
616
00:28:23,958 --> 00:28:25,417
are differently active.
617
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,500
The right hemisphere
is a little more... engaged.
618
00:28:28,583 --> 00:28:32,351
It sounded like in your
voice that that sounded unusual.
619
00:28:32,375 --> 00:28:34,000
That's right.
So, the frontal lobes
620
00:28:34,083 --> 00:28:35,958
have these higher
cognitive functions,
621
00:28:36,042 --> 00:28:39,292
but they're also responsible
for emotion.
622
00:28:39,375 --> 00:28:42,458
So, when we see changes
in there, he might be having
623
00:28:42,542 --> 00:28:45,708
an emotional connection to what
he's or a feeling here
624
00:28:45,833 --> 00:28:47,167
that he's then processing.
625
00:28:47,208 --> 00:28:49,375
He often talks
about having a relationship
626
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:51,833
with the entity,
with the phenomenon around him.
627
00:28:51,917 --> 00:28:54,000
And this is demonstrating that
that's not a story.
628
00:28:54,125 --> 00:28:55,958
- No.
- That he very, really feels
629
00:28:56,042 --> 00:28:57,583
an emotional connection.
630
00:29:14,875 --> 00:29:17,250
Just had a sighting.
We just had a sighting.
631
00:29:17,333 --> 00:29:18,667
- Wow.
- Interesting.
632
00:29:18,708 --> 00:29:21,292
The left hemisphere
and right hemisphere
633
00:29:21,375 --> 00:29:23,208
are differently active.
634
00:29:23,292 --> 00:29:25,184
So, the frontal lobes have these
higher cognitive functions,
635
00:29:25,208 --> 00:29:29,083
but they're also
responsible for emotion.
636
00:29:29,208 --> 00:29:31,667
He might be having
an emotional connection
637
00:29:31,708 --> 00:29:34,000
to what he's...
Or a feeling here
638
00:29:34,083 --> 00:29:36,292
that he's then processing.
639
00:29:36,375 --> 00:29:39,292
One thing that I still
can't figure out is how Chris
640
00:29:39,375 --> 00:29:43,875
can predict so accurately when
the orbs will start appearing.
641
00:29:43,958 --> 00:29:45,643
I mean,
he calls it within just one
642
00:29:45,667 --> 00:29:48,417
or two minutes at a time before
we have our first sighting,
643
00:29:48,542 --> 00:29:52,208
and he can't explain why,
and so far, the only thing
644
00:29:52,333 --> 00:29:54,958
that seems to give us
any insight is the EEG
645
00:29:55,083 --> 00:29:57,667
and the fact that he seems
to have some kind
646
00:29:57,750 --> 00:29:59,875
of energy-based
neurological connection
647
00:29:59,958 --> 00:30:01,708
with the phenomenon around him.
648
00:30:01,833 --> 00:30:05,875
That's in
his left frontal region,
649
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,958
an idling state
in the left frontal bone.
650
00:30:10,042 --> 00:30:11,184
You said that's an idling state?
651
00:30:11,208 --> 00:30:13,833
- Yeah.
- But in this moment,
652
00:30:13,958 --> 00:30:16,042
he's actually calling.
He's requesting, right?
653
00:30:16,125 --> 00:30:17,417
He's requesting.
654
00:30:17,542 --> 00:30:20,167
It's almost like he goes
into a meditative state...
655
00:30:20,250 --> 00:30:21,610
- That's what I'm...
- to requests.
656
00:30:21,708 --> 00:30:23,750
That's what I'm thinking.
He kind of shuts it down.
657
00:30:23,875 --> 00:30:25,518
That's interesting,
where normally, if you were
658
00:30:25,542 --> 00:30:27,018
to request something,
you would see more activity
659
00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:29,875
in the communication center
of the brain.
660
00:30:29,958 --> 00:30:32,000
You've heard of athletes
going into the flow state?
661
00:30:32,042 --> 00:30:34,833
- Right.
- I would equate it to that.
662
00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:37,750
What's fascinating
about watching Chris's EEG
663
00:30:37,833 --> 00:30:40,083
is as he makes these requests,
664
00:30:40,167 --> 00:30:42,500
his brain actually calms down,
665
00:30:42,583 --> 00:30:45,292
which implies that there is
something going on there
666
00:30:45,375 --> 00:30:48,208
that is unusual,
because you would expect,
667
00:30:48,333 --> 00:30:51,333
as he makes an effort to do
this, to see increased activity.
668
00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:53,208
It's actually
the opposite for Chris.
669
00:30:53,292 --> 00:30:54,917
And so we're
all trying to figure out
670
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,833
what is really happening there.
What does this mean?
671
00:30:57,875 --> 00:31:00,125
He's searching.
672
00:31:00,208 --> 00:31:04,792
Look. Just as you said.
Look at all that effort.
673
00:31:04,875 --> 00:31:06,375
Really intense effort
there right now.
674
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,000
He's pointing now.
675
00:31:13,042 --> 00:31:16,333
So, maybe he's focusing on one.
That would make sense.
676
00:31:16,417 --> 00:31:18,750
He has one.
He's got one in the tree line.
677
00:31:21,458 --> 00:31:23,375
When we started seeing
that intense effort,
678
00:31:23,458 --> 00:31:25,917
he spotted an orb
in the tree line.
679
00:31:26,042 --> 00:31:29,167
Well, that certainly matches up,
because everything spiked.
680
00:31:36,625 --> 00:31:39,167
And it appears
that when we see him
681
00:31:39,208 --> 00:31:41,500
actually having the experience,
these temporal lobes
682
00:31:41,542 --> 00:31:44,042
and the different regions
that process language
683
00:31:44,125 --> 00:31:47,458
and generate language,
when he's not actually speaking,
684
00:31:47,542 --> 00:31:50,643
what we saw is those regions
starting to be active.
685
00:31:50,667 --> 00:31:52,958
- So essentially, he's listening.
- One of those regions
686
00:31:53,042 --> 00:31:54,000
- in the temple.
- He's listening to something.
687
00:31:54,042 --> 00:31:55,333
Right.
That's really interesting.
688
00:31:55,375 --> 00:31:58,542
Seems that he is receiving
and interpreting
689
00:31:58,625 --> 00:32:00,583
- verbal communications...
- Yeah.
690
00:32:00,667 --> 00:32:03,500
And then would be looking
to generate speech.
691
00:32:03,542 --> 00:32:06,458
All of that is indicative
of a genuine relationship
692
00:32:06,542 --> 00:32:09,000
with a phenomena
that presents itself to him.
693
00:32:09,125 --> 00:32:11,750
So, we'll look at the data.
We'll do some deeper analysis.
694
00:32:11,833 --> 00:32:15,167
We'll start comparing baselines
to some of the activity we saw,
695
00:32:15,250 --> 00:32:17,542
- and we'll see what comes up.
- Yeah.
696
00:32:19,583 --> 00:32:21,625
So, Chris, one of the things
that we were looking at
697
00:32:21,708 --> 00:32:23,333
is in your temporal lobes,
698
00:32:23,417 --> 00:32:25,226
in that region, you have
these areas that receive
699
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:27,708
and understand
verbal communication,
700
00:32:27,792 --> 00:32:29,125
but there was a mental point
701
00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:30,684
at which we actually know
you were quiet
702
00:32:30,708 --> 00:32:32,292
'cause we were watching,
703
00:32:32,375 --> 00:32:36,042
but these areas of your brain
became quite active,
704
00:32:36,125 --> 00:32:38,417
like you were receiving
verbal communication
705
00:32:38,542 --> 00:32:41,667
and like you were preparing
to respond.
706
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:43,292
I know when
they're communicating,
707
00:32:43,375 --> 00:32:47,417
but it's hard to understand
how to explain it.
708
00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,292
But you just explained it to me
what I have been feeling.
709
00:32:50,375 --> 00:32:53,208
Well, you showed us, actually.
710
00:32:53,292 --> 00:32:54,917
So, I can tell you for sure,
Chris,
711
00:32:55,042 --> 00:32:58,000
it was absolutely fascinating
to watch your brain
712
00:32:58,083 --> 00:33:02,042
instinctively cycle
through deep, relaxing states
713
00:33:02,125 --> 00:33:03,500
and states of active energy.
714
00:33:03,583 --> 00:33:05,167
Wow.
715
00:33:05,292 --> 00:33:08,708
You show an opposite reaction
to the phenomenon
716
00:33:08,833 --> 00:33:11,167
than what we would expect
to see from any other person.
717
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:12,542
Really?
718
00:33:12,625 --> 00:33:15,333
They seem to put you
into a flow state,
719
00:33:15,417 --> 00:33:17,375
into a more meditative state.
720
00:33:17,458 --> 00:33:19,208
Whereas I think my reaction
would be to...
721
00:33:19,292 --> 00:33:21,625
- More excitement.
- Yeah. Clamp down on it,
722
00:33:21,708 --> 00:33:24,042
try to understand it, and you
seem to have a more sort of
723
00:33:24,167 --> 00:33:27,375
intuitive response,
which is really interesting.
724
00:33:27,458 --> 00:33:29,833
I know there are a number
of struggles that your family
725
00:33:29,917 --> 00:33:31,958
has had
with people challenging you
726
00:33:32,042 --> 00:33:33,583
and people accusing you,
727
00:33:33,667 --> 00:33:35,476
and people just saying
terrible things about you,
728
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:37,833
but from the data
that we've seen tonight,
729
00:33:37,875 --> 00:33:41,833
you've been absolutely honest,
you've been very transparent,
730
00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:43,237
and everything
is totally natural.
731
00:33:43,292 --> 00:33:45,042
That seems to be occurring here.
732
00:33:45,125 --> 00:33:47,000
Can only imagine what
you struggle through.
733
00:33:47,125 --> 00:33:48,833
That's That's a big thing.
734
00:33:51,708 --> 00:33:56,000
We were open game
to harassment from everybody.
735
00:33:56,083 --> 00:33:58,750
Everywhere we went,
they would point fingers
736
00:33:58,833 --> 00:34:01,434
and laugh and snicker
and make jokes
737
00:34:01,458 --> 00:34:03,875
as my kids are
coming home crying.
738
00:34:03,958 --> 00:34:08,333
It nearly destroyed my family.
739
00:34:08,375 --> 00:34:13,417
But I had no clue 16 years ago
would lead to this, you know,
740
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,917
Toto all the people
I've met or seen.
741
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:25,018
Just kind people that really
reached out when we needed 'em.
742
00:34:25,042 --> 00:34:28,958
And I'm telling you, I've never
been the same, period.
743
00:34:29,042 --> 00:34:30,875
It...
744
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,292
It only magnified everything.
745
00:34:33,417 --> 00:34:37,208
It just started getting
greater and greater until today.
746
00:34:37,292 --> 00:34:40,809
Long time coming.
747
00:34:40,833 --> 00:34:42,208
- But thank you.
- Thank you.
748
00:34:42,333 --> 00:34:44,958
Thank you
for letting us be here.
749
00:34:45,042 --> 00:34:48,417
How did this guy get
this ability to do this,
750
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:49,500
is the question.
751
00:34:49,542 --> 00:34:52,351
If he does
truly have a superpower,
752
00:34:52,375 --> 00:34:54,583
we have evidence
of what it looks like.
753
00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:57,417
This is probably one of the most
profound things I've seen.
754
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:07,417
Guys, y'all are back
from North Carolina, I see,
755
00:35:07,542 --> 00:35:09,875
and I can't wait to
find out what actually
756
00:35:09,958 --> 00:35:11,917
happened
when you met Chris Bledsoe.
757
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,208
This is pretty wild.
758
00:35:13,292 --> 00:35:15,208
I mean,
it's literally mind-blowing.
759
00:35:15,292 --> 00:35:17,667
Yeah. Really saw
some incredible things.
760
00:35:17,750 --> 00:35:19,518
Having that first night there
where I think we were
761
00:35:19,542 --> 00:35:22,500
both kind of struck a little bit
when we were trying to observe
762
00:35:22,583 --> 00:35:24,542
the phenomenon in person
with Chris.
763
00:35:24,625 --> 00:35:27,208
He senses something,
764
00:35:27,292 --> 00:35:29,875
and he will say,
"Look in this direction,"
765
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,292
and then 30 seconds to sometimes
four or five minutes...
766
00:35:33,375 --> 00:35:35,667
- Yeah, it's there.
- In that direction.
767
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:37,333
- Okay.
- So, here's some
768
00:35:37,417 --> 00:35:39,333
of the highlights
from our first night.
769
00:35:39,375 --> 00:35:42,208
See, it's coming,
and this is it.
770
00:35:42,333 --> 00:35:44,542
I've been putting out
my thoughts in this direction.
771
00:35:44,667 --> 00:35:46,958
That is high,
and it's just dimming out now,
772
00:35:47,042 --> 00:35:48,375
but it's just starting.
773
00:35:48,458 --> 00:35:50,417
So, what you're looking at here,
774
00:35:50,542 --> 00:35:52,292
this is, footage
through a recording camera
775
00:35:52,375 --> 00:35:53,542
that's looking through
776
00:35:53,625 --> 00:35:55,708
a military grade
night vision goggle.
777
00:35:55,792 --> 00:35:58,684
Okay. Now, at this early stage,
I can't distinguish this
778
00:35:58,708 --> 00:36:01,333
from other things that
I might see in the night sky.
779
00:36:01,458 --> 00:36:03,375
I'm not convinced yet
from looking at this
780
00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:04,958
that it's not orbital mechanics.
781
00:36:05,042 --> 00:36:06,583
They look like satellites.
782
00:36:06,667 --> 00:36:09,625
I'm notl'm not saying that I'm
100% convinced it's a satellite,
783
00:36:09,708 --> 00:36:12,708
but right now the question is,
what's causing it?
784
00:36:12,792 --> 00:36:14,708
Did he manifest it somehow,
785
00:36:14,792 --> 00:36:17,208
or is whatever this
manifesting it?
786
00:36:17,292 --> 00:36:19,268
And who's to say, you know,
what we're seeing yet?
787
00:36:19,292 --> 00:36:20,351
You know,
we don't have enough data
788
00:36:20,375 --> 00:36:22,167
to say one thing or the other.
789
00:36:22,208 --> 00:36:25,500
So, our mission with this trip
was really to try to
790
00:36:25,542 --> 00:36:28,167
bring data to help contextualize
a history of stories.
791
00:36:28,250 --> 00:36:29,500
Right?
792
00:36:29,583 --> 00:36:31,059
And one of the things
that we all agreed
793
00:36:31,083 --> 00:36:33,333
we wanted to lean into
was medical data first.
794
00:36:33,458 --> 00:36:36,333
- So, we did set up an EEG.
- Great.
795
00:36:36,458 --> 00:36:39,792
And we had a fantastic
opportunity to study Chris
796
00:36:39,875 --> 00:36:41,625
in the field while he was having
797
00:36:41,708 --> 00:36:43,875
an active relationship
with the phenomenon.
798
00:36:43,958 --> 00:36:46,542
You've already said a lot.
I'm on the edge of my seat.
799
00:36:46,625 --> 00:36:49,333
Wait. Did something happen while
you have the EEG connected?
800
00:36:49,417 --> 00:36:50,768
- It did. Yeah.
- I cannot wait to see this.
801
00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:52,184
Yeah, it's very cool.
It's very cool.
802
00:36:52,208 --> 00:36:54,333
So, we've actually asked
the neuroscientist
803
00:36:54,375 --> 00:36:57,292
that we had on site
to do the analysis
804
00:36:57,375 --> 00:36:59,018
that he was able to do
while we were coming back here.
805
00:36:59,042 --> 00:37:00,417
So, we've got him live
806
00:37:00,500 --> 00:37:01,809
on standby,
ready to talk to you.
807
00:37:01,833 --> 00:37:03,333
- Great.
- Okay.
808
00:37:03,375 --> 00:37:05,542
- Cool.
- Dr. Thompson, good to see you.
809
00:37:05,667 --> 00:37:07,167
Hi, everyone.
Great to see you again.
810
00:37:07,292 --> 00:37:09,458
- Travis Taylor.
- Erik Bard.
811
00:37:09,542 --> 00:37:12,625
They are really excited,
as are we, to see your results.
812
00:37:12,708 --> 00:37:14,518
You know, we've explained to
them that we saw the experiment
813
00:37:14,542 --> 00:37:17,083
in real time, but that
you've got a lot more data
814
00:37:17,167 --> 00:37:18,184
and a lot more analysis
to share with us.
815
00:37:18,208 --> 00:37:20,083
That's correct.
816
00:37:20,167 --> 00:37:23,083
We've got some deeper analysis
that we performed on the data.
817
00:37:23,167 --> 00:37:24,684
We're excited
to share that with you.
818
00:37:24,708 --> 00:37:27,875
So, I was curious
if you noticed any markers
819
00:37:27,958 --> 00:37:29,559
that were out of the ordinary,
820
00:37:29,583 --> 00:37:31,559
or did it just seem like
a normal brain?
821
00:37:31,583 --> 00:37:33,500
With Chris,
we did not note any markers
822
00:37:33,542 --> 00:37:36,000
that we would flag as...
As abnormal
823
00:37:36,083 --> 00:37:37,792
or out of the ordinary.
824
00:37:37,875 --> 00:37:39,333
You know, at rest,
825
00:37:39,417 --> 00:37:41,750
Chris has the balanced
frequencies and brainwaves
826
00:37:41,833 --> 00:37:45,208
that we would expect to see in
the majority of the population.
827
00:37:45,292 --> 00:37:48,167
So when you read the EEG,
828
00:37:48,208 --> 00:37:51,458
the squiggly lines represent
electrical activity as you're
829
00:37:51,542 --> 00:37:53,667
having these discharges
throughout the brain.
830
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:55,583
We know that during
this period of time,
831
00:37:55,667 --> 00:37:58,167
there were not any significant
encounters with the orbs,
832
00:37:58,250 --> 00:38:00,833
and we can use this
as a baseline metric.
833
00:38:00,958 --> 00:38:04,583
What we then did is we
timestamped specific encounters.
834
00:38:04,667 --> 00:38:08,875
There was a specific moment
where we instantaneously saw
835
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:13,875
in the raw data that the waves
became absolutely huge.
836
00:38:13,958 --> 00:38:17,000
Some sort of event
must have triggered these.
837
00:38:17,042 --> 00:38:19,042
Just had a sighting.
We just had a sighting.
838
00:38:19,167 --> 00:38:21,833
And the only event
that was occurring at that time
839
00:38:21,958 --> 00:38:24,333
were the presence of the orbs.
840
00:38:24,375 --> 00:38:25,958
There was a direct correlation
841
00:38:26,042 --> 00:38:29,833
with the time of when an orb
was present in our vicinity,
842
00:38:29,875 --> 00:38:31,833
and Chris's shift
into that state.
843
00:38:31,958 --> 00:38:33,500
Interesting.
844
00:38:33,583 --> 00:38:36,167
And if we look now at the right
hand side of the screen,
845
00:38:36,250 --> 00:38:38,375
what we can see is
a distinct difference
846
00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:40,458
in how the brain is reacting
847
00:38:40,542 --> 00:38:41,417
and what was happening
with Chris.
848
00:38:41,542 --> 00:38:43,542
During the encounters,
849
00:38:43,667 --> 00:38:46,417
Chris instantaneously
switched into this flow,
850
00:38:46,542 --> 00:38:48,125
or meditative state.
851
00:38:48,208 --> 00:38:49,958
How do we interpret that?
852
00:38:50,042 --> 00:38:52,542
This red represents an intensity
853
00:38:52,625 --> 00:38:54,292
three standard deviations
854
00:38:54,375 --> 00:38:56,167
outside of his baseline,
855
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:58,434
and they represent dominance
856
00:38:58,458 --> 00:39:00,667
of the theta
and the alpha brainwaves.
857
00:39:00,708 --> 00:39:04,667
And those are the relaxed,
calm, meditative states.
858
00:39:05,958 --> 00:39:09,833
So, it's not like Chris
is talking to these orbs.
859
00:39:09,917 --> 00:39:11,750
Those centers are
actually shut down.
860
00:39:11,833 --> 00:39:14,542
The way I interpret this
is that he's more
861
00:39:14,708 --> 00:39:18,042
sensing information
than just receiving language.
862
00:39:18,167 --> 00:39:20,667
The state change that occurs
863
00:39:20,792 --> 00:39:23,542
in the presence of the orb,
which is instantaneous,
864
00:39:23,667 --> 00:39:28,500
it's really only held by
the highest level meditators.
865
00:39:28,583 --> 00:39:31,500
You look at a Buddhist monk,
they can move into this state.
866
00:39:31,583 --> 00:39:33,333
They focus, they relax,
867
00:39:33,417 --> 00:39:35,667
and they shut out
the external world.
868
00:39:35,708 --> 00:39:38,167
For Chris,
this happens instantaneously.
869
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,875
Have you ever seen anything
870
00:39:41,958 --> 00:39:45,625
other than drugs
or hypnosis or meditation
871
00:39:45,708 --> 00:39:49,667
induce this effect
onto the brainwave patterns?
872
00:39:49,792 --> 00:39:52,625
No, and that sudden shift
is not explainable
873
00:39:52,708 --> 00:39:54,667
outside of what
you just described.
874
00:39:54,708 --> 00:39:57,000
It's a very unique,
unique pattern.
875
00:39:57,042 --> 00:39:59,625
So, I've heard the word "orb"
spoken several times
876
00:39:59,708 --> 00:40:02,625
in this conversation,
and I can't wait to see
877
00:40:02,708 --> 00:40:04,851
the corresponding video record
878
00:40:04,875 --> 00:40:06,667
Toto get an idea
of what we're talking about.
879
00:40:06,708 --> 00:40:09,125
There was one in the forest.
Do you guys wanna speak to that?
880
00:40:09,208 --> 00:40:10,500
Stand by one second. Here we go.
881
00:40:13,542 --> 00:40:16,500
He's pointing now,
so maybe he's focusing on one.
882
00:40:16,542 --> 00:40:18,500
That would make sense.
883
00:40:18,542 --> 00:40:20,182
He has one.
He's got one in the tree line.
884
00:40:20,208 --> 00:40:21,958
I saw a flash there.
885
00:40:22,042 --> 00:40:23,583
It's about head high
in the woods.
886
00:40:23,708 --> 00:40:25,309
Now, did you guys
see this with your naked eye?
887
00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:26,667
- IYeah, we saw...
- We did.
888
00:40:26,708 --> 00:40:28,167
What color did it appear to you?
889
00:40:28,208 --> 00:40:30,125
- Orange.
- Yeah. Sort of an amber.
890
00:40:30,208 --> 00:40:32,917
Deep into the woods,
or was it actually close to you?
891
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,708
I perceived it to be
in the woods,
892
00:40:35,792 --> 00:40:37,393
passing behind some branches
and in front of other branches.
893
00:40:37,417 --> 00:40:38,833
Exactly.
894
00:40:38,875 --> 00:40:40,500
It appeared that
that bright light
895
00:40:40,542 --> 00:40:43,167
was in front of what
I'm interpreting to be a tree.
896
00:40:43,208 --> 00:40:45,667
- Right?
- Okay.
897
00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:47,625
I can't explain
the thing in the woods.
898
00:40:47,708 --> 00:40:49,833
- Right.
- I have no explanation for that.
899
00:40:49,917 --> 00:40:54,125
But the interesting piece
to this is the entire brain,
900
00:40:54,208 --> 00:40:55,583
it looks like, for Chris,
901
00:40:55,667 --> 00:40:57,583
whenever this phenomena
is occurring,
902
00:40:57,667 --> 00:40:59,667
goes into this state.
903
00:40:59,750 --> 00:41:01,667
That tells you something.
904
00:41:01,708 --> 00:41:03,042
What it's telling you,
905
00:41:03,167 --> 00:41:05,087
I don't know yet,
but it's telling you something,
906
00:41:05,125 --> 00:41:06,625
and that is very significant.
907
00:41:06,708 --> 00:41:09,458
This is great data to something
much more complex
908
00:41:09,542 --> 00:41:11,833
of an experiment
that we need to think of.
909
00:41:11,917 --> 00:41:15,042
This is probably one of the most
profound things I've seen,
910
00:41:15,167 --> 00:41:16,500
at least it's hinting at it.
911
00:41:16,583 --> 00:41:19,167
I'm excited by, what
it could mean.
912
00:41:19,208 --> 00:41:20,375
Great start, then, I think.
913
00:41:20,458 --> 00:41:21,938
Yeah.
Thank you so much, Dr. Thompson.
914
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,083
Great meeting everybody,
and let's continue.
915
00:41:24,167 --> 00:41:26,167
- Absolutely.
- Thanks again, Dr. Thompson.
916
00:41:27,500 --> 00:41:28,917
I don't know
what I was expecting,
917
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,667
but I wasn't expecting this.
The big piece of it that's
918
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:34,750
that is high strangeness is,
how did this guy
919
00:41:34,833 --> 00:41:36,458
get this ability to do this,
920
00:41:36,542 --> 00:41:37,875
is the question.
921
00:41:37,958 --> 00:41:39,601
I want to do more experiments
with this guy.
922
00:41:39,625 --> 00:41:42,559
- Yeah.
- I find that really interesting.
923
00:41:42,583 --> 00:41:45,542
It's generated
some kind of phenomena in him
924
00:41:45,667 --> 00:41:50,500
that's created him to be able
to control his brain state
925
00:41:50,625 --> 00:41:53,042
almost instantaneously,
like a switch.
926
00:41:53,125 --> 00:41:55,042
Right. We may have discovered
something that,
927
00:41:55,125 --> 00:41:58,000
if he does truly have
a superpower,
928
00:41:58,083 --> 00:42:00,500
we have evidence
of what it looks like.
929
00:42:00,667 --> 00:42:02,833
And I would suggest
930
00:42:02,875 --> 00:42:07,375
that you could train to gain
that superpower yourself,
931
00:42:07,542 --> 00:42:08,768
because we know
what type of brain state
932
00:42:08,792 --> 00:42:10,375
you would have to be in
933
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:11,792
to be able to do those things.
934
00:42:11,875 --> 00:42:13,833
It's not an everyday thing
that we see that,
935
00:42:13,917 --> 00:42:15,851
but there are individuals
who've demonstrated the ability.
936
00:42:15,875 --> 00:42:18,917
That's why we're doing this.
Hey, part of my part of my goal
937
00:42:19,042 --> 00:42:20,559
since I was in the third grade
was to be a scientist,
938
00:42:20,583 --> 00:42:22,083
an astronaut, and a superhero.
939
00:42:22,167 --> 00:42:23,625
Right.
940
00:42:23,708 --> 00:42:24,768
- Two out of three so far.
- And I'mso, you know,
941
00:42:24,792 --> 00:42:27,500
This is part of the quest.
942
00:42:27,583 --> 00:42:29,625
Guys, you have conducted
what may be
943
00:42:29,708 --> 00:42:32,667
the most important science that
we're going Toto touch.
944
00:42:32,750 --> 00:42:34,393
- All right.
- So, great work as usual, guys.
945
00:42:34,417 --> 00:42:35,833
- Yeah.
- And there's more to come.
946
00:42:35,958 --> 00:42:37,351
- All right.
- All right. Thanks, guys.
947
00:42:37,375 --> 00:42:38,833
We'll see you next time.
948
00:42:38,917 --> 00:42:40,708
- Yeah.
- Yeah, man.
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