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NARRATOR: Tonight on
"Beyond Skinwalker Ranch"...
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The Skinwalker
is a shapeshifter.
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They sacrifice somebody
in their family
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that's very, very dear.
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When you say sacrifice, you...
You mean kill them?
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Kill them. Yes.
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If you go up there,
you'll never come back down.
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Whoa!
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This phenomenon can be deadly.
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- What was that?
- What was that?
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I'm telling you guys, it's here.
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It's definitely here.
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♪
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For years,
scientists have been working
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to reveal the secrets
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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But is it possible that
the clues to unlock the mystery
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are located beyond the borders
of this hub of high strangeness?
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- Now...
- Whoa.
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An ex-CIA agent
and a veteran journalist
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have been recruited
by the Skinwalker team
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to go on a high-stakes mission
across America.
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Look at all this activity
that's happened.
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- That's unbelievable.
- Oh, my gosh.
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Look at that. Look at that,
look at that, look at that.
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The goal... uncover evidence that
may finally expose the truth.
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- What is that thing?
- It's getting more intense.
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Ever seen anything
like this before?
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No.
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♪
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This is just the beginning.
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♪♪
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Gentlemen, it's great to have
you back on the ranch.
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I know Erik and I can't wait
for you to tell us
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what you've got today.
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Well, I think this one has...
Has a particularly
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kind of a special tie-in
to Skinwalker
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'cause we are going to, really,
the heart of Skinwalker country.
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Now, you guys know Jon Dover?
Oh, yes, very well.
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Been a friend of
your investigations here before.
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So, you know, Jon's
a retired Navajo ranger
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and has been doing
investigations
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on Navajo Nation for years.
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He and his partner Stan...
They really were
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sort of the real life
"X-Files" squad out there,
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running down all kinds
of reports of Skinwalkers,
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really anything paranormal,
unusual.
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Now, by Navajo Nation,
you're talking
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about geographically,
the Navajo Nation, right?
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- Yes, sir.
- Okay.
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So, I've got up
on the screen here,
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Navajo Nation
from a bird's-eye view.
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Now, this place is massive.
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It's the size of Connecticut
in terms of square miles.
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And Jon and Stan have
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actually researched phenomenon
all across the nation
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in their time as rangers.
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The idea is
to go to Navajo Nation,
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pair up with Stan and Jon,
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and then get
firsthand experience from them.
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What did they research?
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What data
were they able to collect?
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We also are hoping to
shed some more light
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onto the question
of Skinwalkers.
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The topic of Skinwalkers
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is extremely taboo
on all of Navajo Nation.
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It is not common
to talk about them.
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It is not common
to say the word.
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And saying the word carries
its own kind of connotation
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among the local people.
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It's certainly
taken from the purview
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of being a curse, right?
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I... you...
I've heard it said that...
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That mention of the Skinwalker
is like an invocation.
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You can actually bring
the Skinwalker into your space
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by talking about that subject.
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Yeah, the whole topic
of the Skinwalker
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is what has me really excited
about this investigation.
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We're going
into the belly of the beast
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where this myth-curse-legend
started,
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and we're going with an eye
towards data and science.
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- Yeah.
- What can we actually collect?
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What can we record,
what can we observe
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that lets us bring information
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back to Skinwalker Ranch
and hopefully advance
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some of what you're seeing
and researching here?
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That's absolutely fascinating,
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I think... I think
it's absolutely necessary.
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That's really valuable
to our investigation
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here on the ranch.
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Hey, if you guys can come back
with more data
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that we can look at into that,
that would be awesome.
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That's the goal.
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All right, well,
we'll see what we find.
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Just a second ago,
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we were in bright sunshine,
and the road was clear,
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and now we've got
snowstorm blowing in over here.
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Looks like we're
driving right into one.
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It's got multiple microclimates
inside the Navajo Nation.
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That's right.
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I'm super excited, man, because
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every legend that we've ever
heard about Skinwalkers
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starts with
the Skinwalker curse,
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and this is where
that Skinwalker curse
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is said to have started.
- This is the opportunity
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to really get to the heart
of this story.
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What is the origin
of the Skinwalker?
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- What are its powers?
- Yeah.
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And... And how much
can we measure?
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What data can we collect?
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Yeah, one of the things that I
think really excites me the most
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is the access
that we've got here
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and the people
who have agreed to speak to us,
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because this is not something
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that the Navajo
take lightly at all.
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Yeah. To have two outsiders
like you and me
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come in as investigators
and work side by side
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with Navajo-licensed
and badged law enforcement...
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- Right.
- Like Stan and Jon
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is really unprecedented.
- Yeah.
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And we have eyewitnesses
and interviews lined up
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with people who are going to
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openly share
their Skinwalker story...
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Story they can't even
tell their neighbor...
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Right.
- For fear of some kind
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of social shame or worse.
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Yeah, we're gonna have to
be ready kind of for anything.
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To learn more about
the Skinwalker phenomena
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occurring in Navajo Nation,
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Andy and Paul arrive
at No Water Mesa
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to speak with
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Navajo Rangers Jon Dover
and Stan Milford.
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- How did you get involved...
- Yeah.
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In doing investigations
on phenomenon
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and high strangeness reports?
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The people that are experiencing
these different phenomena,
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they're traumatized
a lot of times,
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and they don't have anybody
to turn to.
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The chief ranger...
He called us all in
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and basically said that,
"People are asking for help,
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and you're gonna provide help.
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You're gonna go out there,
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you're gonna listen
to what they have to say.
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From now on, when you deal
with these kind of cases
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involving the supernatural
or the paranormal,
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you're going to investigate it
as you would any other case."
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The chief turns
to Jon and I and says,
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"And you two are gonna be
the ones that are gonna
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lead the investigations."
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One of the things
that we're really interested
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in learning about here
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is the history
of Skinwalker activity.
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Can you tell us
a little bit about
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what the Navajos
believe a Skinwalker is?
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JON: The Skinwalker is
a shapeshifter.
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It's somebody who's offered
themselves, so to speak,
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and they sacrifice somebody
in their family
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that's very, very dear,
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very loved to them
in order to attain this power.
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When you say sacrifice, you...
You mean kill them?
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- Kill them, yes.
- Wow.
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When this happens,
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then they're brought in
to a group of people,
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and they're taught
how to do this shapeshifting.
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They'll use
the skins of animals.
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They can change
into any animal out there
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that they have the skin of.
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Once they do, they're able
to run at incredible speeds.
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So, regular people
as well as law enforcement
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have seen
these things personally?
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Most people out here
have seen them.
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- Most people?
- Most people?
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Yeah, And have had
some experience with them.
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- Within their families.
- Within their families.
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- Wow.
- But they don't talk about it.
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The only thing
that's different with us
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is we've investigated
these cases,
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and we're not afraid to talk
about it.
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This is exactly what we need,
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'cause we're here
to gather data.
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You know, we're here
to look for evidence.
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We're... We're here to try
to put some facts to some
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of these stories...
- Yeah.
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These things that,
you know, happen
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throughout this region
that seem connected
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to what we've seen
at Skinwalker Ranch.
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You know, I just... I think
you guys are gonna be
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the perfect guides for us to...
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To get into this part of our...
Our investigation.
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While Paul heads off
with Jon and Stan
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on a ride-along to learn more
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about Navajo Nation's
Skinwalkers,
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Andy is meeting with
local medicine man Art Hardy
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outside his former residence
at the base of Satan's Butte,
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an area rumored to be a hotspot
of Skinwalker activity.
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What is this property here?
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This is a place that I used
to live in years and years ago,
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back in 1992, I would say.
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That is, uh, where
it takes a dark turn.
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The first encounter that
I've had with a Skinwalker.
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You had an encounter here
with a Skinwalker?
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Right. I-I caught one.
I caught one.
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You caught one?
I've got to hear this story.
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I was about 17 years old.
I'm all home alone.
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It's probably like
8 or 9:00 at night.
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I keep seeing something
moving around the window,
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and that window particularly.
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I go outside, turn the corner.
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Bam. Me to you,
he's standing right there.
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- Just this far away.
- Right.
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And I turn on a flashlight,
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and I see this thing
just standing there.
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And I catch him right off guard,
and it startles him.
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He actually jumps. He...
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What does he look like?
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There he is standing there
with a horsehead.
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It turns into a human body.
Right?
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And it's got paint and all kinds
of stuff all over it.
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But I just specifically
remember the horsehead
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being attached to this guy,
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and he... he slowly turns
towards me,
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and, uh, we just stand there.
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When he starts to run,
it sounds like a horse.
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Exactly like a horse.
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I know he has hooves.
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You know, it's got
the whole clucking going on.
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I mean, this is very creepy.
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There are stories in this area
that talk about a trail
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that exists right along
this mesa.
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And this trail is
what they use to travel on.
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One of the things I'd like to do
while we're here, then,
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I want to get a sense of what
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the energy baseline
is in this area.
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- Sure. Sounds good to me.
- Yeah. Let's take a look.
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[beeping]
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There's certainly
something about
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the radiation levels here
that are elevated.
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You see how we're pushing
that 1,000 counts per minute?
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We should be seeing
closer to 200 or 400 counts,
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not 1,000 counts. You can...
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Look at that.
It's already up to 1.4.
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These levels are some of
the highest that we've seen
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in any of
our investigations so far.
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And I don't think
that it's a coincidence
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that you have a suspected trail
of Skinwalker right here.
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2.2, 2.4 holding and it's cons...
251
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- Look. Did you see that?!
- Whoa.
252
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Did you see that spike
to 5,000 CPM?
253
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- I saw it.
- What is this?
254
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A lot of these rocks
came from Satan's Butte.
255
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These rocks came from
the butte just over there?
256
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Right.
257
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That could very well
explain why it's got
258
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such an elevated reading.
259
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This is all
one consistent source.
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I absolutely want to see
what the similarities are
261
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between this building
and that butte.
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- Let's go.
- Let's do that.
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♪
264
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As Andy and Art head over
to Satan's Butte,
265
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Paul is on a ride-along
with Jon and Stan,
266
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learning more
about the Skinwalkers
267
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in Navajo Nation.
268
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So, guys, when we talk
about Skinwalkers,
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it sounds like we're talking
about a couple things, uh,
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some kind of a human
who has been initiated
271
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into this dark magic, who has
now some kinds of powers, right?
272
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They shapeshift?
273
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- Right.
- And what... what else?
274
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What... What are these
things capable of?
275
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They can travel very fast.
276
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They're known to keep up
with cars at highway speeds
277
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and, you know, bang on the side
of your car as you're driving.
278
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- Running like an animal?
- Running, uh, on two feet,
279
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but as an animal.
280
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This is all
so sort of unbelievable,
281
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but, you know, you said
this has been reported
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for y... well, really forever.
283
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I spoke
to another police officer.
284
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This officer
ran into two of them,
285
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And as he would chase one,
it would just, in a flash,
286
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zip away, and it would
be standing on the hill.
287
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And he says
that as he ran after it,
288
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the other one would
try to get to his vehicle
289
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and take a bit of the decal,
290
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you know, scrape it off
and take it with them,
291
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probably to...
To render a curse on it later.
292
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And he would chase
the other one,
293
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and it would zip off faster
than... than the eye could see.
294
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It was just like you sped up
a film in fast motion.
295
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He says this went on
for a little while
296
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until he finally drew
his weapon,
297
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and he was ready to shoot
at them, and they both left.
298
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I'm a skeptic, but when
I'm sitting next to someone
299
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who is so informed and...
And passing that on to me
300
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in such a calm
and authoritative way,
301
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you can't just write off
thousands of years
302
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of human experience
just because you're a skeptic.
303
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♪♪
304
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Hard to believe this place
is called Satan's Butte.
305
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What is the history
of this place?
306
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Where did that name come from?
307
00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,333
So, there are
things here on this mesa
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that scare most folks.
309
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There is a location on this mesa
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that has a very dark value
to it.
311
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This is a dark place.
312
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There's dark things
that happen on there,
313
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and that's where
they named it Satan's Butte.
314
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This is a place of evil.
This is where the Devil resides.
315
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♪
316
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The taboo entity that we're
talking about here
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is a Skinwalker.
318
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Right.
319
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Andy is at the base
of Satan's Butte
320
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with local Navajo medicine man
Art Hardy,
321
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who grew up next to this mesa
322
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that he believes
is a hotspot for Skinwalkers.
323
00:13:22,167 --> 00:13:26,000
How did these Skinwalkers
connect with the Satan's Butte
324
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where we're standing right now?
325
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There is an old cave.
326
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It's caved in now.
327
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Um, that's where
they would congregate.
328
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When we were kids, we were told,
you know, "Don't go over there.
329
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Don't hang around there.
330
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If you go up there,
you'll never come back down."
331
00:13:40,917 --> 00:13:43,083
Is it safe? Is it safe
for us to go explore?
332
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- Is it safe?
- You know, during the day,
333
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there's... there's no problem.
It's... It's at night.
334
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That's usually when you have
more problems,
335
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more... more encounters.
336
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For their next plan of attack,
337
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the team regroups
at the base of Satan's Butte
338
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so they can investigate
an area at the top
339
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where it's said
that Skinwalkers gather.
340
00:14:01,625 --> 00:14:03,792
Hey, welcome
to Satan's Butte, man.
341
00:14:03,917 --> 00:14:05,458
- Paul.
- My name is Art.
342
00:14:05,583 --> 00:14:07,518
- Art, nice to meet you.
- Good to meet you, gentlemen.
343
00:14:07,542 --> 00:14:11,583
♪♪
344
00:14:11,750 --> 00:14:15,292
So, believe it or not,
this area here
345
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is on the same longitude
that Skinwalker Ranch is.
346
00:14:18,958 --> 00:14:20,917
ANDY:
That's incredibly coincidental,
347
00:14:21,042 --> 00:14:22,833
if it's a coincidence at all.
348
00:14:22,958 --> 00:14:27,417
We've also had a lot of reports
of Skinwalkers up here.
349
00:14:27,542 --> 00:14:28,750
I mean, Art's told me stories
350
00:14:28,875 --> 00:14:30,195
about encounters
with Skinwalkers,
351
00:14:30,250 --> 00:14:33,333
and it does not sound like
an easy experience.
352
00:14:33,458 --> 00:14:36,375
It sounds like an upsetting
and worrisome experience.
353
00:14:36,542 --> 00:14:39,667
Well, these things can actually
kill you pretty easily.
354
00:14:39,833 --> 00:14:42,083
Uh, they can poison you.
355
00:14:42,208 --> 00:14:44,489
There's... There's a lot of
different ways they can do it,
356
00:14:44,958 --> 00:14:49,875
and, uh, so we tend to treat it
very seriously out here.
357
00:14:50,042 --> 00:14:52,833
The nature of the Skinwalker is
358
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coming from the use
of witchcraft.
359
00:14:56,208 --> 00:14:59,042
- Mm-hmm.
- And that's uniquely found
360
00:14:59,208 --> 00:15:02,000
within all of these
different Indian tribes.
361
00:15:02,167 --> 00:15:04,083
♪
362
00:15:04,208 --> 00:15:08,000
The Skinwalkers are said to be
able to travel vast distances
363
00:15:08,083 --> 00:15:13,208
by sliding into these, uh,
dimensional gates and jumping,
364
00:15:13,333 --> 00:15:17,875
almost like a wormhole effect,
and come out again.
365
00:15:18,042 --> 00:15:21,292
Would... Would you guys say,
I mean, this is a hotspot?
366
00:15:21,375 --> 00:15:22,809
Satan's Butte is as
a hotspot of this activity?
367
00:15:22,833 --> 00:15:24,273
- Oh, yeah, definitely.
- Definitely.
368
00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:26,042
That's right.
369
00:15:26,167 --> 00:15:27,768
So, Andy, why don't we start?
Why don't we start here?
370
00:15:27,792 --> 00:15:29,167
- I agree.
- Good a place as any.
371
00:15:29,292 --> 00:15:32,250
Okay, Paul, I'm going to start
with a spectrum analyzer
372
00:15:32,375 --> 00:15:35,000
so we can get a sense of what
might be happening around us
373
00:15:35,167 --> 00:15:36,458
that we can't see.
374
00:15:36,583 --> 00:15:38,292
♪
375
00:15:38,375 --> 00:15:39,833
What are you seeing there?
Anything?
376
00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,268
Just now starting
to scan the spectrum.
377
00:15:41,292 --> 00:15:43,167
- Okay.
- Do you hear the voice?
378
00:15:43,292 --> 00:15:45,000
Look at this.
Oh, now look at this,
379
00:15:45,167 --> 00:15:46,893
- I was gonna say, do you hear...
- Look at this, look at this.
380
00:15:46,917 --> 00:15:48,237
- Did you hear that?
- I heard it.
381
00:15:48,708 --> 00:15:49,851
Look at this. We have
a huge spike at 1.5 gigahertz
382
00:15:49,875 --> 00:15:51,208
in this area.
383
00:15:51,375 --> 00:15:53,333
- PAUL: Really?
- ANDY: That's strange.
384
00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:57,500
About 200 yards back,
I began getting a sense
385
00:15:57,625 --> 00:16:00,375
of us being watched, um...
386
00:16:00,500 --> 00:16:03,333
And he and I, just
a few moments ago, heard voices.
387
00:16:03,458 --> 00:16:05,125
- Yeah.
- Just now.
388
00:16:05,208 --> 00:16:07,833
What do you guys make of that?
What do... I mean...
389
00:16:07,958 --> 00:16:09,083
What should we do?
390
00:16:09,208 --> 00:16:11,917
I heard it coming
from that direction.
391
00:16:12,042 --> 00:16:14,625
- Up over the ridge?
- Uh, it sounded like it.
392
00:16:14,708 --> 00:16:19,292
I can't help but connect
this activity with this location
393
00:16:19,417 --> 00:16:21,698
and the fact that you just
heard voices in the same place.
394
00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:22,833
♪♪
395
00:16:22,958 --> 00:16:25,042
We're gonna start
losing daylight.
396
00:16:25,167 --> 00:16:27,875
Are you guys comfortable
sitting up with us
397
00:16:28,042 --> 00:16:30,500
and doing some nighttime
investigation on the mesa,
398
00:16:30,667 --> 00:16:32,292
looking for Skinwalkers?
399
00:16:32,417 --> 00:16:35,375
We're looking
for scientific data here.
400
00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:36,667
Mm.
401
00:16:36,792 --> 00:16:38,458
We're not hunting
for Skinwalkers,
402
00:16:38,583 --> 00:16:42,167
because if we do, we'll find
them, or they'll find us.
403
00:16:42,292 --> 00:16:47,167
And if something does happen,
and Art or Stan or I say,
404
00:16:47,250 --> 00:16:50,917
"Okay, it's time to wrap it up,"
we wrap it up.
405
00:16:51,042 --> 00:16:52,583
I can do that.
406
00:16:52,708 --> 00:16:56,000
This phenomenon can be deadly,
407
00:16:56,125 --> 00:16:58,583
and it can.
It can take your life.
408
00:16:58,708 --> 00:17:03,250
♪♪
409
00:17:03,375 --> 00:17:05,167
All right, lead the way, Jon.
410
00:17:05,250 --> 00:17:10,125
♪♪
411
00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:18,250
♪
412
00:17:19,708 --> 00:17:23,417
♪
413
00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:26,250
PAUL: It looks like there's
caves and fissures
414
00:17:26,375 --> 00:17:28,333
all over the place.
- ANDY: Yeah.
415
00:17:28,458 --> 00:17:30,708
ART:
This is the Skinwalker cave.
416
00:17:30,875 --> 00:17:32,643
You're basically standing
at the... at the ledge here.
417
00:17:32,667 --> 00:17:34,000
PAUL: Yeah.
418
00:17:34,125 --> 00:17:35,476
And the cave
used to be pretty huge,
419
00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:38,250
but now it's washed out
in the past 30 years.
420
00:17:38,375 --> 00:17:40,917
So, there's no longer a cave,
but there's remnants of it,
421
00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,292
and it's just gonna be right
down on the edge of this ledge.
422
00:17:44,375 --> 00:17:46,792
And the story that...
That we tell around here is
423
00:17:46,875 --> 00:17:49,708
this... this is the area
where they would congregate,
424
00:17:49,833 --> 00:17:50,934
where they would get together.
425
00:17:50,958 --> 00:17:53,458
So, uh, we have
to do the investigation,
426
00:17:53,542 --> 00:17:57,125
get whatever information
we can, verify it.
427
00:17:57,292 --> 00:18:00,833
There's, uh, a lot of
anomalous, uh, occurrences here.
428
00:18:00,917 --> 00:18:04,042
Well, let's get unpacked, man,
'cause I want to make sure
429
00:18:04,208 --> 00:18:06,375
we have our stuff set up
when night falls.
430
00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,300
PAUL: Let's get going
before it gets too dark.
431
00:18:08,375 --> 00:18:11,250
We'll run our test tonight
and... and see what we get.
432
00:18:11,375 --> 00:18:13,500
♪♪
433
00:18:17,458 --> 00:18:22,333
♪
434
00:18:22,458 --> 00:18:25,458
ANDY: This place is just
daunting-looking, isn't it?
435
00:18:25,583 --> 00:18:28,833
Andy and Paul are investigating
the Native American legend
436
00:18:28,958 --> 00:18:32,667
of a shapeshifting creature
known as a Skinwalker.
437
00:18:32,792 --> 00:18:35,833
Tonight, they're investigating
the top of Satan's Butte,
438
00:18:35,875 --> 00:18:37,667
an area that the Navajo believe
439
00:18:37,750 --> 00:18:40,958
is a gathering place
for these entities.
440
00:18:41,042 --> 00:18:43,833
Paul, can you set them up so
they got... they got good light?
441
00:18:43,958 --> 00:18:45,333
I got it. I got it.
442
00:18:45,458 --> 00:18:48,333
And I'm gonna lower the...
The temp.
443
00:18:48,458 --> 00:18:51,000
Paul, I can't believe how fast
444
00:18:51,167 --> 00:18:52,527
this weather
has turned south, man.
445
00:18:52,583 --> 00:18:54,083
Yeah.
We've got a storm coming in.
446
00:18:54,208 --> 00:18:56,292
We do not have a lot of time.
447
00:18:56,375 --> 00:18:58,292
Keep a hold on the table,
448
00:18:58,417 --> 00:19:00,083
or we're gonna lose everything.
449
00:19:00,208 --> 00:19:02,125
The team will be using an array
of instruments,
450
00:19:02,250 --> 00:19:03,875
including thermal cameras
451
00:19:04,042 --> 00:19:07,000
to monitor for temperature
fluctuations in the area,
452
00:19:07,083 --> 00:19:09,250
as well as
RF analyzing equipment
453
00:19:09,375 --> 00:19:12,667
to track any unusual activity
in the radio spectrum.
454
00:19:12,750 --> 00:19:14,000
All right, so, Paul, I'm...
455
00:19:14,083 --> 00:19:15,393
I'm gonna start scanning
the spectrum.
456
00:19:15,417 --> 00:19:16,667
Okay.
457
00:19:16,792 --> 00:19:18,042
[wind gusting loudly]
458
00:19:18,167 --> 00:19:19,750
Oh, my goodness.
459
00:19:19,875 --> 00:19:21,333
These gusts are incredible.
460
00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:25,417
50, 60-ish gusts coming at us.
461
00:19:25,542 --> 00:19:28,000
The caves should be
down there at the bottom.
462
00:19:28,083 --> 00:19:29,417
We got to get this stuff done
463
00:19:29,542 --> 00:19:31,458
before we get blown
off this mountain.
464
00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:34,333
Yes. Yes, we do.
465
00:19:34,417 --> 00:19:38,750
Why are we seeing anything
like this at 900 megahertz?
466
00:19:38,917 --> 00:19:40,167
Hey, Andy, what do you got?
467
00:19:40,292 --> 00:19:42,184
Paul, we got some
strange activity over here, man.
468
00:19:42,208 --> 00:19:44,125
We've got
a really active spectrum,
469
00:19:44,208 --> 00:19:46,208
all in 900 megahertz.
470
00:19:46,375 --> 00:19:49,875
Frequen... Whoa. Did you see that
incredible uptick over here?
471
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,960
- Paul, look at that.
- The whole baseline surged.
472
00:19:52,083 --> 00:19:53,523
- The whole foundation, yeah.
- Yeah.
473
00:19:54,375 --> 00:19:55,934
What is this?
We've got this 3-peaked signal
474
00:19:55,958 --> 00:19:57,958
that keeps
repeating and repeating.
475
00:19:58,083 --> 00:19:59,875
Whatever it is,
it's replicating.
476
00:19:59,958 --> 00:20:03,667
- What's that on the left?
- 1.603.
477
00:20:03,792 --> 00:20:05,601
- [wind gusting loudly]
- Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
478
00:20:05,625 --> 00:20:08,542
God, the wind is just
picking up all the time.
479
00:20:08,625 --> 00:20:10,333
We're up here now
with a screaming storm
480
00:20:10,458 --> 00:20:13,167
that came out of the blue
and a waveform pattern
481
00:20:13,292 --> 00:20:17,500
that's constantly shifting
and repeating in a pattern
482
00:20:17,625 --> 00:20:19,583
in privileged transmission zones
483
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:21,958
that are reserved for...
For earth to space
484
00:20:22,083 --> 00:20:24,083
and space to earth
communication.
485
00:20:24,208 --> 00:20:26,000
[wind whistling and gusting]
486
00:20:26,125 --> 00:20:28,417
I want to see if we're
seeing any activity
487
00:20:28,542 --> 00:20:30,042
somewhere else on the spectrum.
488
00:20:30,167 --> 00:20:32,417
- [wind gusting loudly]
- Whoa.
489
00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:34,042
Wow!
490
00:20:34,125 --> 00:20:35,708
Yeah, that got a reaction.
[chuckles]
491
00:20:35,833 --> 00:20:38,792
[laughs] Oh, my gosh.
492
00:20:38,917 --> 00:20:42,833
It's interesting how the...
How the wind kicks up so hard
493
00:20:42,917 --> 00:20:46,000
right when you... you go to that.
494
00:20:46,083 --> 00:20:48,750
We're trying to hold our laptops
down before they blow off.
495
00:20:48,875 --> 00:20:52,000
Whatever's here
doesn't want us doing this.
496
00:20:52,167 --> 00:20:54,542
I think it's time to call it.
497
00:20:54,708 --> 00:20:56,250
All right, Andy.
How are you doing?
498
00:20:56,375 --> 00:20:58,500
I'm good, man. That was...
That's got me unnerved.
499
00:20:58,583 --> 00:21:00,351
- I'm a little bit shaky.
- I'm gonna start...
500
00:21:00,375 --> 00:21:01,917
That experience
was kind of intense.
501
00:21:02,042 --> 00:21:04,434
All right, I've got your voice
going through my head about...
502
00:21:04,458 --> 00:21:08,000
About expecting...
503
00:21:08,083 --> 00:21:09,833
Oh, wow.
504
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,917
- Paul, what do you got?
- The wind... it's gone.
505
00:21:14,042 --> 00:21:16,833
As soon as we started to say
we're breaking down,
506
00:21:16,875 --> 00:21:19,667
the wind just dropped
about 50%, at least.
507
00:21:19,792 --> 00:21:21,375
Right, to... to, like,
almost nothing.
508
00:21:21,542 --> 00:21:22,792
Yeah.
509
00:21:22,875 --> 00:21:24,475
They were definitely
talking to you guys.
510
00:21:25,625 --> 00:21:27,018
You're right. It is
what it is, guys. Let's go.
511
00:21:27,042 --> 00:21:29,242
- Here comes the wind again.
- ANDY: Are you kidding me?
512
00:21:29,292 --> 00:21:30,667
PAUL: We got to go.
513
00:21:30,833 --> 00:21:36,583
♪
514
00:21:36,708 --> 00:21:39,750
It really felt like
Mother Nature, the mountain,
515
00:21:39,875 --> 00:21:42,292
everything was just working
against us, fighting against us.
516
00:21:42,375 --> 00:21:45,333
Yeah, I really think
that there was
517
00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,875
something else involved there,
518
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,125
uh, an intelligent source
that knew what we were doing,
519
00:21:51,208 --> 00:21:53,167
and then every time
we sat back and we says,
520
00:21:53,292 --> 00:21:54,612
"Let's try this experiment,"
boom.
521
00:21:54,708 --> 00:21:56,542
Here comes the...
Here comes the wind again,
522
00:21:56,708 --> 00:21:58,500
knock us over.
523
00:21:58,625 --> 00:22:01,750
So, you're suggesting
that our experiments
524
00:22:01,875 --> 00:22:05,500
were what was driving a response
in our natural environment?
525
00:22:05,583 --> 00:22:07,375
Yes.
526
00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:11,583
We really speculate
that this has to do
527
00:22:11,708 --> 00:22:14,208
with portals
and with other dimensions,
528
00:22:14,375 --> 00:22:17,000
and some of them are
just right next to ours,
529
00:22:17,083 --> 00:22:19,458
but at a different frequency.
530
00:22:19,542 --> 00:22:23,000
And so we bleed over
every now and then.
531
00:22:23,083 --> 00:22:25,542
It's not like a solid wall.
532
00:22:25,667 --> 00:22:29,750
It's almost like a cloud that
intermingles with each other.
533
00:22:29,875 --> 00:22:33,083
And this is one of those places
where that can intermingle.
534
00:22:33,167 --> 00:22:35,000
♪
535
00:22:35,167 --> 00:22:37,125
Just so you guys know,
536
00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:40,458
we have another case
in the works
537
00:22:40,583 --> 00:22:43,083
that just came up recently.
538
00:22:43,208 --> 00:22:45,625
This involves a young woman
539
00:22:45,708 --> 00:22:48,500
that's having
all kinds of strangeness.
540
00:22:48,583 --> 00:22:50,833
There's elements of haunting,
541
00:22:50,958 --> 00:22:53,917
and there's elements
of Navajo witchcraft,
542
00:22:54,042 --> 00:22:55,750
all involved at the same time.
543
00:22:55,875 --> 00:22:59,167
Is this something
that Andy and I could sort of
544
00:22:59,333 --> 00:23:00,625
ride along with you on?
545
00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:03,125
We would love to
have you guys come along
546
00:23:03,250 --> 00:23:06,125
because we wanna get
the scientific data
547
00:23:06,208 --> 00:23:08,458
on what's going on here,
548
00:23:08,583 --> 00:23:12,833
so, uh, we're gonna be
relying on you guys to get that.
549
00:23:12,917 --> 00:23:15,000
♪♪
550
00:23:19,958 --> 00:23:24,833
♪
551
00:23:24,917 --> 00:23:28,500
Jon has told us
a little bit about your story.
552
00:23:28,667 --> 00:23:30,917
We're very curious to hear more.
553
00:23:31,042 --> 00:23:34,417
Paul and Navajo Nation ranger
Jon Dover
554
00:23:34,542 --> 00:23:36,833
meet with a local woman
who claims her family
555
00:23:36,958 --> 00:23:40,458
was forced out of their home
by Skinwalkers.
556
00:23:40,583 --> 00:23:43,000
She requested her identity
be concealed
557
00:23:43,167 --> 00:23:44,667
for fear that telling her story
558
00:23:44,833 --> 00:23:47,583
could provoke further attacks
on her family.
559
00:23:47,708 --> 00:23:52,500
Jon has told us
a little bit about your story,
560
00:23:52,667 --> 00:23:55,375
and we're very curious
to hear more.
561
00:24:15,833 --> 00:24:18,417
And when you say,
"seen Skinwalkers," tell me...
562
00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:20,417
Tell me more about
exactly what you're seeing.
563
00:24:30,167 --> 00:24:31,958
Walking upright like a person?
564
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,125
Could you see
what he was fighting?
565
00:25:12,250 --> 00:25:15,583
It's... What, it disappeared
into the ceiling of the house?
566
00:25:25,625 --> 00:25:28,583
In Navajo culture,
567
00:25:28,708 --> 00:25:31,500
you're... if you're born
in a certain place,
568
00:25:31,625 --> 00:25:33,583
you're tied to that land.
569
00:25:33,708 --> 00:25:36,667
That's where you grew up.
570
00:25:36,792 --> 00:25:38,833
That's where
you're gonna be buried.
571
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,125
They're tied in with that land
very, very tightly.
572
00:25:42,292 --> 00:25:43,833
- Mm-hmm.
- And that's why...
573
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,417
So, moving is not something
you would take lightly at all.
574
00:25:46,542 --> 00:25:47,833
- That's a major decision.
- No.
575
00:25:47,958 --> 00:25:50,667
No, that's... that's big,
big-time, major decision.
576
00:25:50,792 --> 00:25:51,917
Mm-hmm.
577
00:25:52,042 --> 00:25:54,042
Thank you, first of all,
for sharing this.
578
00:25:54,167 --> 00:25:56,083
- Mm-hmm.
- And thank you for being willing
579
00:25:56,208 --> 00:25:59,125
to let us investigate your home.
580
00:26:02,458 --> 00:26:04,708
We'll be very careful.
581
00:26:07,458 --> 00:26:11,667
♪
582
00:26:11,792 --> 00:26:14,208
For the next part
of their investigation,
583
00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:15,958
Paul, Andy, and the Navajo team
584
00:26:16,083 --> 00:26:19,792
head to the Skinwalker victim's
abandoned homestead
585
00:26:19,917 --> 00:26:23,542
located about 90 miles southwest
of Satan's Butte.
586
00:26:23,667 --> 00:26:27,667
We've got eyes on this house
in every possible way.
587
00:26:27,792 --> 00:26:31,000
They've set up security cameras
throughout the home,
588
00:26:31,167 --> 00:26:33,167
as well as
additional thermal cameras
589
00:26:33,292 --> 00:26:36,167
to monitor any temperature
anomalies on the property.
590
00:26:36,292 --> 00:26:37,583
♪♪
591
00:26:37,708 --> 00:26:40,667
I'm already seeing
some strange activity on FLIR.
592
00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:41,458
- Do you see that?
- PAUL: Are you recording that?
593
00:26:41,583 --> 00:26:43,125
Yeah. Do you see the FLIR?
594
00:26:43,250 --> 00:26:46,042
The FLIR is an instrument
that gives us visual capability
595
00:26:46,208 --> 00:26:49,125
into the thermal temperatures
around the building.
596
00:26:49,208 --> 00:26:51,101
- This is an abandoned building.
- Yeah, this should be...
597
00:26:51,125 --> 00:26:53,042
It should be cold,
but look at what's happening
598
00:26:53,208 --> 00:26:55,000
around the entrance.
Look inside the window.
599
00:26:55,167 --> 00:26:57,083
When the window opens,
do you see that?
600
00:26:57,208 --> 00:26:59,500
- Yeah, that's weird.
- Yeah, there's a hotspot inside.
601
00:26:59,583 --> 00:27:00,768
Look at that.
That's exactly right.
602
00:27:00,792 --> 00:27:02,333
That's really strange, guys.
603
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:06,167
This is the ambient temperature
of the doorway and the stairs.
604
00:27:06,250 --> 00:27:08,417
And we see these
heat signatures that are...
605
00:27:08,542 --> 00:27:09,667
- All around.
- Yeah.
606
00:27:09,833 --> 00:27:11,018
And it's been cold here all day.
607
00:27:11,042 --> 00:27:12,583
All day.
608
00:27:12,708 --> 00:27:14,308
So it wouldn't have soaked up
any heat...
609
00:27:14,375 --> 00:27:15,792
- No.
- From any source.
610
00:27:15,917 --> 00:27:17,351
This is absolutely suggesting
that there's
611
00:27:17,375 --> 00:27:20,167
some kind of energy source
around that entryway
612
00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:23,500
that we can see...
613
00:27:23,667 --> 00:27:26,000
- Keeping it warm.
- With thermal imagery, exactly.
614
00:27:26,167 --> 00:27:27,375
That's odd.
615
00:27:27,542 --> 00:27:31,167
Wait, why is that camera
switching... switching views?
616
00:27:31,292 --> 00:27:34,167
- What part of the house is that?
- Why does it keep moving?
617
00:27:34,292 --> 00:27:35,684
There's a different image.
Do you see the different image?
618
00:27:35,708 --> 00:27:38,958
What's going on there?
619
00:27:39,042 --> 00:27:41,542
That's the one that's mounted
just inside the door, right?
620
00:27:41,667 --> 00:27:44,292
Yeah, just inside the door.
621
00:27:44,417 --> 00:27:47,208
- JON: Let's go take a look.
- PAUL: Yeah, let's do it.
622
00:27:47,333 --> 00:27:49,018
All right, Jon, I'm gonna
let you lead the way
623
00:27:49,042 --> 00:27:51,184
'cause I'm gonna try and keep
my eye on the screen here.
624
00:27:51,208 --> 00:27:58,292
♪
625
00:27:58,417 --> 00:27:59,657
Camera should be right up here.
626
00:28:01,542 --> 00:28:03,583
- Hey, Andy?
- Yeah, man.
627
00:28:03,708 --> 00:28:05,500
Camera's come down
from the wall.
628
00:28:05,583 --> 00:28:07,792
The camera's come down?
Can you replace it?
629
00:28:07,875 --> 00:28:09,351
I'm going to try
and get up there and fix it.
630
00:28:09,375 --> 00:28:13,667
♪♪
631
00:28:13,833 --> 00:28:16,083
But even with it falling down,
632
00:28:16,208 --> 00:28:18,083
how the heck
were we still getting a...
633
00:28:18,208 --> 00:28:20,417
- I don't understand.
- Another image?
634
00:28:20,542 --> 00:28:21,833
Yep.
635
00:28:21,958 --> 00:28:24,458
That's the weirdest part.
636
00:28:24,542 --> 00:28:25,768
It's one thing if it just falls,
637
00:28:25,792 --> 00:28:28,375
but why was it picking up
another...
638
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:29,809
Seemed like
another room entirely.
639
00:28:29,833 --> 00:28:31,375
Andy, how's that?
640
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:33,042
You're not gonna believe this,
man.
641
00:28:33,167 --> 00:28:34,567
The whole time
you've been in there,
642
00:28:34,625 --> 00:28:35,934
there hasn't been
a single flicker.
643
00:28:35,958 --> 00:28:37,333
What?
644
00:28:37,458 --> 00:28:39,167
The signal is strong and steady.
645
00:28:39,292 --> 00:28:41,000
Boy, what a scene.
646
00:28:41,125 --> 00:28:43,208
It feels like they left
in a hurry, doesn't it?
647
00:28:43,333 --> 00:28:44,875
Yeah. Yeah. Big hurry.
648
00:28:45,042 --> 00:28:48,625
Yeah. Look at how warm
these walls are.
649
00:28:48,792 --> 00:28:52,125
Up around 41 degrees
on some of this stuff.
650
00:28:52,250 --> 00:28:53,958
♪
651
00:28:54,042 --> 00:28:57,125
I mean, the wind is
blowing through here.
652
00:28:57,250 --> 00:28:59,833
- Yeah, you wouldn't expect that.
- No.
653
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,875
- Here's dressers with...
- Yeah.
654
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,833
Items still in them.
655
00:29:04,917 --> 00:29:07,625
I mean, it looks like they just
got up and ran. I mean...
656
00:29:07,750 --> 00:29:10,500
- What's that?
- It's a little child's sandal.
657
00:29:10,625 --> 00:29:12,000
PAUL: Weird.
658
00:29:12,083 --> 00:29:15,625
This is the room where
there was a-a fight
659
00:29:15,750 --> 00:29:19,083
with a dark figure
with red eyes,
660
00:29:19,208 --> 00:29:22,417
and they said
it had antlers like a deer.
661
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,167
And that thing went up through
662
00:29:24,292 --> 00:29:26,333
and into the attic
and disappeared.
663
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,684
PAUL: I mean, this... this part of
the house just looks like
664
00:29:28,708 --> 00:29:30,667
it's been completely
ripped apart.
665
00:29:30,833 --> 00:29:32,167
JON: That's right.
666
00:29:32,292 --> 00:29:35,333
PAUL: Completely different
from the other sections.
667
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:37,000
Really strange. I mean, this...
668
00:29:37,125 --> 00:29:39,333
This is... this is
just destroyed in here.
669
00:29:39,458 --> 00:29:42,208
There's a crib in the corner.
670
00:29:42,375 --> 00:29:47,542
That bed frame
is a full 8 degrees warmer
671
00:29:47,667 --> 00:29:49,708
even than
the material in the bed.
672
00:29:49,792 --> 00:29:55,707
JON: And the window's open.
673
00:29:55,708 --> 00:29:58,167
♪
674
00:29:58,333 --> 00:30:00,101
PAUL: Really strange.
I mean, this... this is...
675
00:30:00,125 --> 00:30:01,417
This is just destroyed in here.
676
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,167
♪
677
00:30:04,250 --> 00:30:07,208
There's a crib in the corner.
678
00:30:07,333 --> 00:30:12,500
That bed frame
is a full 8 degrees warmer
679
00:30:12,583 --> 00:30:15,125
even than the material
in the bed.
680
00:30:15,208 --> 00:30:17,125
I don't know what to make of
all this variation.
681
00:30:17,208 --> 00:30:19,708
You'd think everything in here
would just be uniformly cold.
682
00:30:19,875 --> 00:30:21,458
That just doesn't make sense.
683
00:30:21,542 --> 00:30:23,625
JON: And the...
The roof is gone.
684
00:30:23,708 --> 00:30:26,750
- PAUL: And it's completely open.
- JON: And the window is open.
685
00:30:26,875 --> 00:30:30,042
PAUL: I'm just getting
a weird vibe from this.
686
00:30:30,167 --> 00:30:31,708
JON:
Yeah, you can feel it.
687
00:30:31,875 --> 00:30:32,976
- Yeah, it's just this...
- Almost oppressed.
688
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,542
Something weird in here.
689
00:30:34,667 --> 00:30:38,083
♪♪
690
00:30:38,208 --> 00:30:40,500
Can you hear this?
Andy, come here.
691
00:30:40,583 --> 00:30:42,208
Listen in this direction
right now.
692
00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:44,167
Do you hear any howling?
693
00:30:44,333 --> 00:30:46,708
It's a very faint howling
that came from this direction.
694
00:30:46,875 --> 00:30:48,417
[wind blowing]
695
00:30:48,542 --> 00:30:50,333
[gasps]
696
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:01,833
I don't...
697
00:31:06,958 --> 00:31:08,375
[wind blowing]
698
00:31:13,042 --> 00:31:15,000
Jon, why don't
we make our way back
699
00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:16,333
to the front of the house?
700
00:31:16,458 --> 00:31:18,500
- That sounds like a good plan.
- Yeah.
701
00:31:18,667 --> 00:31:23,250
♪
702
00:31:23,375 --> 00:31:25,208
All right, guys.
703
00:31:25,375 --> 00:31:26,643
ANDY: Now, Paul, while
you guys were inside...
704
00:31:26,667 --> 00:31:28,667
- Yep?
- Art heard a howling sound.
705
00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:29,750
A howling?
706
00:31:29,792 --> 00:31:31,542
A howling sound on the property.
707
00:31:31,667 --> 00:31:33,476
There's certainly a lot
of activity concentrated
708
00:31:33,500 --> 00:31:35,125
on this house.
709
00:31:35,250 --> 00:31:39,500
♪
710
00:31:39,625 --> 00:31:41,083
The spectrum's not moving.
711
00:31:41,208 --> 00:31:43,143
That's very different than
what we saw in Satan's Butte.
712
00:31:43,167 --> 00:31:45,208
- Yep.
- But this...
713
00:31:45,375 --> 00:31:47,101
The power and consistency...
- [howling in distance]
714
00:31:47,125 --> 00:31:49,542
- of this thermal anomaly.
- What was that?
715
00:31:51,667 --> 00:31:56,167
- I'm glad we all heard that.
- Yeah, I heard that, too.
716
00:31:56,333 --> 00:31:58,667
I'm telling you guys, it's here.
717
00:31:58,833 --> 00:32:01,292
♪
718
00:32:05,708 --> 00:32:08,875
That was a weird noise.
719
00:32:14,208 --> 00:32:15,083
- Still got yours?
- I think Jon has the other.
720
00:32:15,208 --> 00:32:16,500
- Jon has it?
- Yep, yep.
721
00:32:16,625 --> 00:32:18,667
You got that one.
722
00:32:18,833 --> 00:32:23,167
♪
723
00:32:37,958 --> 00:32:39,458
[high-pitched electronic whine]
724
00:32:43,625 --> 00:32:45,333
[howl in distance]
725
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,042
[wind blowing,
low yelp in distance]
726
00:32:50,542 --> 00:32:51,708
[howl in distance]
727
00:32:54,542 --> 00:32:57,000
- Did you hear that, Andy?
- I hear all sorts of things.
728
00:32:57,125 --> 00:32:59,000
You didn't hear the,
like, the yell over here?
729
00:32:59,083 --> 00:33:00,583
No, I didn't hear a yell.
730
00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:03,208
[wind whistling]
731
00:33:08,208 --> 00:33:11,750
Andy, what are
you guys seeing over there?
732
00:33:11,875 --> 00:33:13,250
Hey, Paul, this is Art.
733
00:33:13,375 --> 00:33:16,333
We got, uh, some kind
of yelling going on back here,
734
00:33:16,542 --> 00:33:18,667
some strange noises.
735
00:33:18,833 --> 00:33:21,667
We got Andy on the, uh,
night vision,
736
00:33:21,792 --> 00:33:23,958
checking through with the IR
to see if there's any kind
737
00:33:24,083 --> 00:33:26,208
of visual that he can make out.
738
00:33:26,333 --> 00:33:28,042
ANDY: I can't make sense
of any of it.
739
00:33:28,167 --> 00:33:30,833
And that's what they do.
740
00:33:30,958 --> 00:33:32,500
And I'm not really comfortable
741
00:33:32,583 --> 00:33:35,042
being too far away from Paul
'cause he's...
742
00:33:35,167 --> 00:33:37,667
- Yeah, same.
- Alone, which...
743
00:33:37,792 --> 00:33:39,833
Let's get back over there
and see.
744
00:33:39,958 --> 00:33:42,250
I heard that. I heard that.
Sure.
745
00:33:44,208 --> 00:33:48,167
ANDY: That was another kind
of... like a holler or yell.
746
00:33:48,250 --> 00:33:50,125
♪♪
747
00:33:50,250 --> 00:33:53,875
That's where... Let's make our way
back to Paul for sure.
748
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,875
♪♪
749
00:33:57,042 --> 00:33:59,542
I honestly
feel like we're hearing
750
00:33:59,667 --> 00:34:02,750
some sort of call,
like a holler or a yell,
751
00:34:02,875 --> 00:34:04,542
baiting us to go further.
752
00:34:04,708 --> 00:34:06,508
Given everything
we've seen and heard tonight,
753
00:34:06,625 --> 00:34:08,333
do you think that there's
754
00:34:08,417 --> 00:34:11,083
really, right now,
a Skinwalker here with us?
755
00:34:11,208 --> 00:34:13,417
Yes, I do. I do believe that.
756
00:34:13,542 --> 00:34:16,333
It's not just the intuition
that's telling me that,
757
00:34:16,458 --> 00:34:17,833
but it's
all the physical evidence
758
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,708
that's been presented
around us that says yes.
759
00:34:21,833 --> 00:34:24,708
There's
an oppressive feeling here.
760
00:34:24,875 --> 00:34:26,458
I mean, you walk into it,
it hits you
761
00:34:26,625 --> 00:34:30,375
just like a solid object,
this negative energy.
762
00:34:30,542 --> 00:34:32,917
Yeah, I've had kind
of a pit in my stomach
763
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,167
up here the whole time.
764
00:34:34,292 --> 00:34:38,167
- Right.
- It just... It doesn't feel good.
765
00:34:38,292 --> 00:34:39,958
Well, as we acknowledge it,
766
00:34:40,042 --> 00:34:42,750
all the noises have
somewhat dissipated now.
767
00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:43,893
You don't hear
anything else now.
768
00:34:43,917 --> 00:34:45,458
It's pretty... pretty quiet.
769
00:34:45,542 --> 00:34:47,417
Maybe we should
pack up while it's quiet.
770
00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:54,083
Well, Paul and Andy... [sighs]
771
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:56,833
I'm excited to find out
what you've learned
772
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,708
in your adventures
on the Navajo Nation.
773
00:34:59,833 --> 00:35:02,333
Well, buckle up, 'cause we had
a pretty wild ride out there.
774
00:35:02,417 --> 00:35:04,208
"Adventure" is
the exact right word to use.
775
00:35:04,292 --> 00:35:05,292
- Really?
- Yeah. Yeah.
776
00:35:05,375 --> 00:35:06,833
- Wow.
- So as soon as we land
777
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,393
in Navajo Nation,
we had a chance to meet
778
00:35:08,417 --> 00:35:11,000
with Jon and Stan
and get our bearings
779
00:35:11,125 --> 00:35:12,792
on both their background
780
00:35:12,875 --> 00:35:16,000
and where they wanted us to
start our current investigation.
781
00:35:16,167 --> 00:35:18,167
So, we were introduced
to a local medicine man,
782
00:35:18,292 --> 00:35:21,000
a community leader
by the name of Art Hardy,
783
00:35:21,167 --> 00:35:23,458
and he took me to a place
called Satan's Butte.
784
00:35:23,542 --> 00:35:26,167
And this is just
one geographic location
785
00:35:26,333 --> 00:35:28,833
in the larger Navajo Nation.
786
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,333
Now, we went here specifically
looking to kind of dig into
787
00:35:32,458 --> 00:35:34,750
and put data
around the Skinwalker legend,
788
00:35:34,875 --> 00:35:38,458
and it seems like it centers
here on Satan's Butte.
789
00:35:38,542 --> 00:35:39,708
Really?
790
00:35:39,875 --> 00:35:41,351
The way they described it
to us, that this is
791
00:35:41,375 --> 00:35:43,208
almost a jumping off point
where there was
792
00:35:43,375 --> 00:35:46,667
congregations
of multiple Skinwalkers.
793
00:35:46,833 --> 00:35:48,208
[keyboard clicks]
794
00:35:48,375 --> 00:35:52,000
So, we decided
to launch a night investigation
795
00:35:52,083 --> 00:35:53,542
up onto Satan's Butte itself,
796
00:35:53,708 --> 00:35:55,958
actually go to the place
where nobody goes.
797
00:35:56,083 --> 00:35:57,333
Fantastic.
798
00:35:57,458 --> 00:35:59,058
Fortune favors the bold, man,
absolutely.
799
00:35:59,125 --> 00:36:00,625
ANDY:
So, we had a spectrum analyzer
800
00:36:00,750 --> 00:36:02,559
that gave us both the ability
to observe the spectrum
801
00:36:02,583 --> 00:36:04,184
and then also tune into
the spectrum and listen in.
802
00:36:04,208 --> 00:36:05,708
Sure. Mm-hmm.
803
00:36:05,833 --> 00:36:08,042
Well, we got some
strange activity over here, man.
804
00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:10,125
We've got
a really active spectrum
805
00:36:10,292 --> 00:36:12,125
all at 900 megahertz.
806
00:36:12,292 --> 00:36:13,750
Let's see
what happens when we go up
807
00:36:13,833 --> 00:36:16,083
and cross the boundary.
808
00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:18,792
You got a comb function
that's all the way across.
809
00:36:18,875 --> 00:36:20,500
- That's all these spikes.
- Mm.
810
00:36:20,625 --> 00:36:22,018
The reason why it's
called a comb function...
811
00:36:22,042 --> 00:36:24,292
It looks like the teeth
of a comb, right?
812
00:36:24,375 --> 00:36:26,542
And it's spread
across the frequency there.
813
00:36:26,708 --> 00:36:28,042
What's generating that?
814
00:36:28,167 --> 00:36:32,000
That's a lot of energy.
That's very interesting.
815
00:36:32,167 --> 00:36:34,333
So, one element
of the equation here
816
00:36:34,458 --> 00:36:35,750
were the weather conditions.
817
00:36:35,875 --> 00:36:38,000
We had scheduled everything
because the weather
818
00:36:38,083 --> 00:36:41,000
was supposed
to be calm with clear skies
819
00:36:41,125 --> 00:36:43,833
and a great
nighttime investigation setup.
820
00:36:43,958 --> 00:36:46,042
As we set up
for this experiment,
821
00:36:46,208 --> 00:36:49,333
the weather got
rapidly worse and worse.
822
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,333
As you'll see,
we just started getting
823
00:36:51,417 --> 00:36:55,083
flat out concerned
for our safety.
824
00:36:55,208 --> 00:36:57,625
The reason you see
the shake in the camera
825
00:36:57,708 --> 00:36:59,143
is because our cameramen
were being blown off.
826
00:36:59,167 --> 00:37:00,458
- Whoa. Look at that.
- Yeah.
827
00:37:00,583 --> 00:37:03,583
- Wow.
- Yeah, that got a reaction.
828
00:37:03,708 --> 00:37:06,542
Whatever's here
doesn't want us doing this.
829
00:37:06,667 --> 00:37:09,208
I think it's time to call it.
830
00:37:09,333 --> 00:37:13,208
You could see it on him.
He was visibly shaken,
831
00:37:13,333 --> 00:37:15,500
and he decided that it wasn't
a good place to be.
832
00:37:15,625 --> 00:37:16,958
Yeah.
833
00:37:17,083 --> 00:37:20,042
And then we were
invited to participate
834
00:37:20,167 --> 00:37:23,125
in an active
Navajo Nation investigation
835
00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:25,625
into a current
Skinwalker situation.
836
00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:27,270
- Wow.
- We actually had an opportunity
837
00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:29,833
to speak
with the woman involved,
838
00:37:29,958 --> 00:37:33,625
and what she described is
almost an infestation
839
00:37:33,750 --> 00:37:37,125
over many, many years
at their home
840
00:37:37,292 --> 00:37:39,212
that had essentially
driven them out of the home.
841
00:37:39,333 --> 00:37:41,625
The entire family
had abandoned their home.
842
00:37:41,708 --> 00:37:43,625
What we had now
was an opportunity
843
00:37:43,708 --> 00:37:46,208
to go and do an investigation
at the home.
844
00:37:46,375 --> 00:37:48,667
So, Paul and I are on site
845
00:37:48,833 --> 00:37:51,625
looking to collect hard data
with hosts,
846
00:37:51,708 --> 00:37:54,625
with guides there with us,
who were more in tune...
847
00:37:54,792 --> 00:37:58,417
Seemed more in tune with
the environment than we were.
848
00:37:58,542 --> 00:38:00,375
- [gasps]
- [wind whistling]
849
00:38:04,875 --> 00:38:06,625
- I don't...
- Shh!
850
00:38:11,500 --> 00:38:14,583
So, we started hearing sounds.
At first, some sounds
851
00:38:14,708 --> 00:38:16,875
were being reported
that Paul and I couldn't hear.
852
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,208
Yep.
853
00:38:18,375 --> 00:38:20,000
And then we got
some kind of squeal
854
00:38:20,125 --> 00:38:23,167
that was off in the distance
that we all very clearly heard.
855
00:38:23,250 --> 00:38:25,018
The power and consistency
of this thermal anomaly...
856
00:38:25,042 --> 00:38:26,375
[howl in distance]
857
00:38:26,542 --> 00:38:27,458
- What was that?
- What was that?
858
00:38:27,542 --> 00:38:29,667
♪♪
859
00:38:29,875 --> 00:38:32,292
- [keyboard clicks]
- And the preponderance
860
00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:35,167
of activity convinced Art,
our medicine man,
861
00:38:35,292 --> 00:38:37,583
that a Skinwalker was present.
862
00:38:37,708 --> 00:38:39,643
And our guides started
to see more and more activity.
863
00:38:39,667 --> 00:38:41,250
They started seeing
shadowy figures
864
00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:43,500
off of mesas
that were near the house,
865
00:38:43,667 --> 00:38:45,333
and they just...
They started warning us
866
00:38:45,458 --> 00:38:47,667
of activity all around us.
867
00:38:47,833 --> 00:38:51,458
I like the fact that you're...
You're taking these side notes,
868
00:38:51,542 --> 00:38:53,182
you know, the commentary coming
from those
869
00:38:53,208 --> 00:38:56,167
who have been your guides.
Whatever they're picking on,
870
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:57,917
this may be what
we're here to understand.
871
00:38:58,042 --> 00:39:02,292
It may be more important data,
that notetaking that you did,
872
00:39:02,375 --> 00:39:04,000
than any of
the measurements you took
873
00:39:04,125 --> 00:39:05,405
with the scientific instruments,
874
00:39:05,542 --> 00:39:08,042
or at least
the correlation of the two.
875
00:39:08,167 --> 00:39:12,333
We have scientific instrument
data and experience data.
876
00:39:12,458 --> 00:39:15,125
So, Jon actually told us
he has an update
877
00:39:15,208 --> 00:39:16,726
from our investigation when
we were in the field with him,
878
00:39:16,750 --> 00:39:18,875
and I would love to pull him up
right now.
879
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,500
- Yeah.
- Right now.
880
00:39:20,708 --> 00:39:23,333
- Yeah.
- Let's do it, yeah.
881
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,042
- Hey, it's good to see you guys.
- Hey, Jon.
882
00:39:26,125 --> 00:39:27,333
Hey, Jon. Great to see you.
883
00:39:27,417 --> 00:39:28,777
So, Jon, we understand
there's a...
884
00:39:28,875 --> 00:39:30,226
There's an update
that you have for us, sir.
885
00:39:30,250 --> 00:39:32,083
Uh, yes, there is.
886
00:39:32,208 --> 00:39:36,500
I ran into the young lady,
and she gave me an update
887
00:39:36,667 --> 00:39:38,667
on what was going on
with that case
888
00:39:38,792 --> 00:39:40,875
out at the house
in the middle of nowhere.
889
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,500
She rushed up to me.
She was very, very happy,
890
00:39:44,625 --> 00:39:47,458
and she wanted me to know
891
00:39:47,542 --> 00:39:50,375
and wanted
everybody there to know
892
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:53,833
that as a result
of the investigation,
893
00:39:54,042 --> 00:39:59,500
the attacks have gone away on
her personally and her family.
894
00:39:59,583 --> 00:40:01,167
- Wow.
- It shined a light
895
00:40:01,250 --> 00:40:03,333
on Skinwalker activity.
896
00:40:03,458 --> 00:40:05,500
They don't want that light
shone on them,
897
00:40:05,667 --> 00:40:07,875
and there are
no more occurrences.
898
00:40:08,042 --> 00:40:12,417
So, this investigation revealed
that there was actually
899
00:40:12,583 --> 00:40:16,292
phenomena taking place
that was affecting the family.
900
00:40:16,417 --> 00:40:18,750
And as a result
of the investigation,
901
00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:21,083
the government
with the Navajo Nation,
902
00:40:21,250 --> 00:40:25,167
has offered to assign her
a new home site lease.
903
00:40:25,333 --> 00:40:26,917
- Wow.
- Oh, wow.
904
00:40:27,042 --> 00:40:28,500
This is unprecedented.
905
00:40:28,625 --> 00:40:30,167
- Wow.
- That's fascinating.
906
00:40:30,292 --> 00:40:32,167
- Wow.
- Jon, that's amazing news.
907
00:40:32,333 --> 00:40:33,809
- Yeah.
- We helped resolve this, maybe,
908
00:40:33,833 --> 00:40:36,208
or at least move... made life
better for someone, right?
909
00:40:36,333 --> 00:40:37,750
Yeah, exactly.
910
00:40:37,917 --> 00:40:38,934
It is clear that this is
being taken seriously.
911
00:40:38,958 --> 00:40:40,333
Yeah.
912
00:40:40,375 --> 00:40:41,695
Like, we created
something that...
913
00:40:41,792 --> 00:40:42,625
- Right.
- The government is seeing
914
00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:44,750
as evidence, and that evidence
915
00:40:44,875 --> 00:40:48,708
is being used to advance a case
right there in Navajo Nation.
916
00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:51,000
It makes you feel good
when you find out that, uh,
917
00:40:51,125 --> 00:40:52,292
you did something good.
918
00:40:52,375 --> 00:40:54,250
- Yeah.
- Thank you, Jon.
919
00:40:54,375 --> 00:40:55,833
- Thanks, Jon.
- Oh, yeah.
920
00:40:55,917 --> 00:40:57,351
- We'll see you later, Jon.
- Thanks you, Jon.
921
00:40:57,375 --> 00:40:58,708
- Thanks a lot.
- See you, guys.
922
00:40:58,792 --> 00:41:02,500
- All right.
- I find that really interesting.
923
00:41:02,667 --> 00:41:05,167
I wasn't really expecting
anything like that.
924
00:41:05,333 --> 00:41:07,833
Yeah. The fact that it's
actionable or deemed actionable
925
00:41:08,042 --> 00:41:10,625
by the tribe, right,
the Navajo Nation...
926
00:41:10,750 --> 00:41:12,667
- A governing body.
- That says a lot to me,
927
00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:16,333
and I applaud you guys for doing
this... this particular excursion.
928
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,625
This has been very eye-opening
and fantastic.
929
00:41:18,708 --> 00:41:20,500
- Yeah.
- Absolutely.
930
00:41:20,583 --> 00:41:23,500
What you guys are doing is
benefiting what we're doing,
931
00:41:23,625 --> 00:41:27,208
and what we're doing is
informing what you need to do.
932
00:41:27,375 --> 00:41:30,375
Yeah. What we'll do next.
This is a match made in heaven.
933
00:41:30,542 --> 00:41:33,625
[laughs]
Together we're stronger.
934
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:35,393
- It's a good way to put it.
- Thanks, guys.
935
00:41:35,417 --> 00:41:38,125
Thank you so much.
936
00:41:38,149 --> 00:41:40,149
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