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hi this is justin colletti of sonic
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scoop thanks for joining me for this
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week's episode of the sonic scoop
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podcast
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and today i'm going to give you one
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quick tip
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that is going to tremendously improve
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your results at mastering
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and if you apply this to mixing i think
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it'll help you a lot in mixing as well
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it comes down to how you use limiters
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and compressors particularly in the
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context of
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on your main stereo bus
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and this was a big insight and
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breakthrough for me
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and it's been a big one for a lot of my
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clients and a lot of the learners people
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have taken
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the course mastering demystified and
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like i said it applies
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almost as well to mixing as it does to
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mastering before i give you this one
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quick tip that's going to change your
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life
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right into it this one big tip in the
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context of
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mastering is to put your limiter on
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first
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don't put it on last and this came out
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of a coaching call i was doing
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with a coaching call client of me mine
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just the other week
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and she was asking me about you know one
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of the problems she was having was
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sometimes her masters sounding
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kind of more squashed more flat more
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small the more she limited them
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the more she compressed them and when
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she tried to get them up to a level
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that was competitive with some of her
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favorite tracks and some of her clients
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favorite tracks
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things just sounded little weak
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small murky and
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why this occurs quite a lot is that
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people get
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all of their eq dialed in they do all
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the processing they want to do
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and then they apply the limiter
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afterwards
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and that i'm going to suggest to you is
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a big mistake
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particularly if you want things to sound
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loud clear
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clean articulate make them sound full
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and big as they get loud
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instead of smaller and worse as they get
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louder which is a very common thing
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a big problem with limiters
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is that just all else being equal if you
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limit something
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it will tend to sound a little more dark
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and smushy and congested because you're
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shaving off
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transients and you also end up having
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this problem
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where if you have a lot of low end in
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the track and this is very common in
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mixes before they're mastered maybe
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having
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a little bit too much low frequency and
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low mid
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energy compared to favorite records that
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as the limiter squishes down on things
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these over abundant areas
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will seemingly be even more over
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abundant
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than they were before so if you're going
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to do
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a lot of limiting a lot of compression a
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lot of loudness
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if you want to get things really
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saturated and exciting sounding
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you're often going to have to make them
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a little bit brighter than you otherwise
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would
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so there's a problem if you eq things
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first
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get them sounding great and then apply
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the limiter
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that limiter is kind of changing the eq
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profile and the tonal balance of
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everything that you've already set up
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but if you put that limiter on first
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get your track to a roughly appropriate
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loudness level
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first now every eq move you make
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every decision you make into the limiter
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in mastering is informed by what the
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limiter is doing
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so you're going to be encouraged to
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potentially
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suck out more low mids and more subs if
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that's what that
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particular mix needs you'll also be
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encouraged to add in
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more lows and add in more low mids if
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that's what it needs
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because you're hearing the effect that
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the limiter is having on the track
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one way or another and you're making all
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of your choices
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based on what that limiter is doing and
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it'll give you
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some great ideas better insights into
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how you should be eq'ing
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because if you do it the other way
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around you you practically have to eq
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twice
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you have to eq then you put the limiter
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on if the limiter is doing something
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significant if this is a genre that
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needs significant limiting
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to get it up to negative 9 left negative
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10 left
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negative six luff's an edm or something
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like that if it's a genre that wants a
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lot of compression and limiting
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you've totally changed the sound and now
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you have to eq everything
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all over again so again
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putting your limiter on first and then
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mastering
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into it and i recommend for a similar
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set of reasons
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putting your mix bus compressor on early
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if you want to mix through one
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during the mixing process if you like to
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eq
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your mix bus as some people do also
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putting that on early
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is a good idea because again
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every single decision you make in the
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mix
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you're going to hear it through that end
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processing so you push things further
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when you should
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you'll hold back on things more when you
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should
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you'll make better decisions when it
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comes to balance setting
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and automation setting because you're
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hearing that
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through your final bus processing rather
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than spending
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the whole half a day or a day doing a
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full mix and then putting a compressor
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or an eq on
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to here that it just actually changes
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your mix and changes decisions
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that you had made and i would have made
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different decisions now i'm going to go
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back
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and change things you know what i'll
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just leave it for the mastering engineer
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you're probably better off leaving
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compression and eq'ing the mix bus to
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the mastering engineer if you're going
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to put it on near the end of your
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process
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but if you get it on early you can make
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intelligent decisions
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through your mixbus compressor or
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through your mixbus eq if you use one or
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whatever other
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processing saturation that you might use
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a tape simulator or something on your
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getting those on relatively early i
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generally recommend maybe setting your
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balances first in the mix rough balances
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then put that stuff on then continue
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setting your rough balances and then go
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through the rest of the sweetening
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once you get more advanced even having
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them on from moment
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one can be a good idea particularly if
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you are
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have a set process as far as gain
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staging and things like that
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we could get more advanced more detailed
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in this i want to give you a quick tip
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today so that's
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it if you want to go even more in depth
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my full-length course mixing
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breakthroughs i mean goes
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tremendously far into this idea of how
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to treat
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your buses in the mixing context or my
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full-length course
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mastering demystified goes into this
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into some really great detail on the
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mastering end
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why i advocate for setting up that
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limiter first
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getting yourself to appropriate level
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first and then mastering into that
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limiter in the mastering context
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i think if you start integrating this
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into your work right away
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you're going to get tremendous results
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out of it especially on the mastering
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side
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hope this one has been useful for you if
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you want to go deeper there is mixing
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breakthroughs
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mastering demystified the following
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courses if you want something totally
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for free
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i can get you a free workshop called the
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five habits of truly great mixers
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you can get that at
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sonexgroup.commixhabits.sonicscoop.commixhabits
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and it really ties together the common
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threads and the approach of all of the
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best mixers out there
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who i have studied worked alongside
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scene work
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interviewed all that stuff you get that
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at sonic's group.com
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mix habits if you want a primer on
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mastering kind of the basics of
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mastering
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free workshop called mastering 101 you
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can get sonicscoop.com
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mastering 101 then sonicsgoop.com
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mastering
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101 big shout out again and thanks to
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this has been justin coletti of sonic
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scoop thanks for hanging out with me
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see you next time17545
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