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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:01,520 hi this is justin colletti of sonic 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:02,800 scoop thanks for joining me for this 3 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:03,919 week's episode of the sonic scoop 4 00:00:03,919 --> 00:00:04,560 podcast 5 00:00:04,560 --> 00:00:06,879 and today i'm going to give you one 6 00:00:06,879 --> 00:00:07,680 quick tip 7 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:09,599 that is going to tremendously improve 8 00:00:09,599 --> 00:00:11,280 your results at mastering 9 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,040 and if you apply this to mixing i think 10 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:15,599 it'll help you a lot in mixing as well 11 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:17,520 it comes down to how you use limiters 12 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,359 and compressors particularly in the 13 00:00:19,359 --> 00:00:20,080 context of 14 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:23,119 on your main stereo bus 15 00:00:23,119 --> 00:00:26,400 and this was a big insight and 16 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:27,519 breakthrough for me 17 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:29,840 and it's been a big one for a lot of my 18 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:31,439 clients and a lot of the learners people 19 00:00:31,439 --> 00:00:32,079 have taken 20 00:00:32,079 --> 00:00:34,399 the course mastering demystified and 21 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:35,840 like i said it applies 22 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:37,840 almost as well to mixing as it does to 23 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,920 mastering before i give you this one 24 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:41,360 quick tip that's going to change your 25 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,079 life 26 00:00:42,079 --> 00:00:44,559 all i've got to do is shout out this 27 00:00:44,559 --> 00:00:45,760 week's sponsors 28 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,079 they include you how do you sponsor by 29 00:00:48,079 --> 00:00:49,360 hitting that like button if you're on 30 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:50,960 the youtube or facebook version of this 31 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:52,160 making sure 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and this came out 47 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,560 of a coaching call i was doing 48 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,880 with a coaching call client of me mine 49 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,240 just the other week 50 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,880 and she was asking me about you know one 51 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,680 of the problems she was having was 52 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:35,280 sometimes her masters sounding 53 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,920 kind of more squashed more flat more 54 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:39,759 small the more she limited them 55 00:01:39,759 --> 00:01:41,200 the more she compressed them and when 56 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,439 she tried to get them up to a level 57 00:01:43,439 --> 00:01:45,840 that was competitive with some of her 58 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,360 favorite tracks and some of her clients 59 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,479 favorite tracks 60 00:01:48,479 --> 00:01:52,240 things just sounded little weak 61 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,439 small murky and 62 00:01:55,439 --> 00:01:57,920 why this occurs quite a lot is that 63 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,640 people get 64 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,439 all of their eq dialed in they do all 65 00:02:01,439 --> 00:02:02,960 the processing they want to do 66 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,280 and then they apply the limiter 67 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,320 afterwards 68 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,119 and that i'm going to suggest to you is 69 00:02:09,119 --> 00:02:10,560 a big mistake 70 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,480 particularly if you want things to sound 71 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,160 loud clear 72 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,280 clean articulate make them sound full 73 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,720 and big as they get loud 74 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,800 instead of smaller and worse as they get 75 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,840 louder which is a very common thing 76 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,040 a big problem with limiters 77 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,920 is that just all else being equal if you 78 00:02:29,920 --> 00:02:30,720 limit something 79 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:33,360 it will tend to sound a little more dark 80 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,959 and smushy and congested because you're 81 00:02:34,959 --> 00:02:35,760 shaving off 82 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,959 transients and you also end up having 83 00:02:38,959 --> 00:02:39,760 this problem 84 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:41,519 where if you have a lot of low end in 85 00:02:41,519 --> 00:02:43,200 the track and this is very common in 86 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:44,480 mixes before they're mastered maybe 87 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:44,959 having 88 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:47,360 a little bit too much low frequency and 89 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,000 low mid 90 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,040 energy compared to favorite records that 91 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,680 as the limiter squishes down on things 92 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,360 these over abundant areas 93 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,080 will seemingly be even more over 94 00:02:58,080 --> 00:02:58,879 abundant 95 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,519 than they were before so if you're going 96 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:02,000 to do 97 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,560 a lot of limiting a lot of compression a 98 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:05,440 lot of loudness 99 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:06,560 if you want to get things really 100 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,640 saturated and exciting sounding 101 00:03:08,640 --> 00:03:10,159 you're often going to have to make them 102 00:03:10,159 --> 00:03:12,080 a little bit brighter than you otherwise 103 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:13,360 would 104 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,159 so there's a problem if you eq things 105 00:03:16,159 --> 00:03:16,560 first 106 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,879 get them sounding great and then apply 107 00:03:18,879 --> 00:03:20,239 the limiter 108 00:03:20,239 --> 00:03:23,680 that limiter is kind of changing the eq 109 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,920 profile and the tonal balance of 110 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,480 everything that you've already set up 111 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,599 but if you put that limiter on first 112 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,840 get your track to a roughly appropriate 113 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:34,799 loudness level 114 00:03:34,799 --> 00:03:38,480 first now every eq move you make 115 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,599 every decision you make into the limiter 116 00:03:41,599 --> 00:03:43,920 in mastering is informed by what the 117 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,120 limiter is doing 118 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,360 so you're going to be encouraged to 119 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:48,319 potentially 120 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:50,879 suck out more low mids and more subs if 121 00:03:50,879 --> 00:03:51,840 that's what that 122 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,319 particular mix needs you'll also be 123 00:03:54,319 --> 00:03:55,360 encouraged to add in 124 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:57,840 more lows and add in more low mids if 125 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:58,720 that's what it needs 126 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,720 because you're hearing the effect that 127 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,480 the limiter is having on the track 128 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,560 one way or another and you're making all 129 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,159 of your choices 130 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:09,280 based on what that limiter is doing and 131 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:10,239 it'll give you 132 00:04:10,239 --> 00:04:12,720 some great ideas better insights into 133 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,239 how you should be eq'ing 134 00:04:14,239 --> 00:04:15,120 because if you do it the other way 135 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,799 around you you practically have to eq 136 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:17,280 twice 137 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:19,040 you have to eq then you put the limiter 138 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:20,560 on if the limiter is doing something 139 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,240 significant if this is a genre that 140 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,759 needs significant limiting 141 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:26,240 to get it up to negative 9 left negative 142 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:27,199 10 left 143 00:04:27,199 --> 00:04:29,360 negative six luff's an edm or something 144 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,600 like that if it's a genre that wants a 145 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:33,759 lot of compression and limiting 146 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:35,759 you've totally changed the sound and now 147 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:37,040 you have to eq everything 148 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,560 all over again so again 149 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,880 putting your limiter on first and then 150 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:43,600 mastering 151 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,320 into it and i recommend for a similar 152 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:47,520 set of reasons 153 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:50,160 putting your mix bus compressor on early 154 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,160 if you want to mix through one 155 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,800 during the mixing process if you like to 156 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:55,440 eq 157 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:58,479 your mix bus as some people do also 158 00:04:58,479 --> 00:04:59,759 putting that on early 159 00:04:59,759 --> 00:05:02,960 is a good idea because again 160 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,520 every single decision you make in the 161 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:06,960 mix 162 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:08,800 you're going to hear it through that end 163 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,120 processing so you push things further 164 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:12,160 when you should 165 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,479 you'll hold back on things more when you 166 00:05:14,479 --> 00:05:15,440 should 167 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,039 you'll make better decisions when it 168 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:18,479 comes to balance setting 169 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:21,199 and automation setting because you're 170 00:05:21,199 --> 00:05:21,919 hearing that 171 00:05:21,919 --> 00:05:24,960 through your final bus processing rather 172 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:25,759 than spending 173 00:05:25,759 --> 00:05:27,759 the whole half a day or a day doing a 174 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:29,680 full mix and then putting a compressor 175 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,639 or an eq on 176 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:32,639 to here that it just actually changes 177 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:34,400 your mix and changes decisions 178 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,080 that you had made and i would have made 179 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,520 different decisions now i'm going to go 180 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:38,160 back 181 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:40,080 and change things you know what i'll 182 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,720 just leave it for the mastering engineer 183 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,880 you're probably better off leaving 184 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,960 compression and eq'ing the mix bus to 185 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:48,080 the mastering engineer if you're going 186 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,360 to put it on near the end of your 187 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:50,720 process 188 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,479 but if you get it on early you can make 189 00:05:52,479 --> 00:05:53,919 intelligent decisions 190 00:05:53,919 --> 00:05:55,919 through your mixbus compressor or 191 00:05:55,919 --> 00:05:58,080 through your mixbus eq if you use one or 192 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:58,960 whatever other 193 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,360 processing saturation that you might use 194 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,120 a tape simulator or something on your 195 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,160 mix bus 196 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:05,840 getting those on relatively early i 197 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:07,680 generally recommend maybe setting your 198 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,080 balances first in the mix rough balances 199 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,080 then put that stuff on then continue 200 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:13,440 setting your rough balances and then go 201 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:14,720 through the rest of the sweetening 202 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:16,639 once you get more advanced even having 203 00:06:16,639 --> 00:06:17,919 them on from moment 204 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:21,360 one can be a good idea particularly if 205 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:21,840 you are 206 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:23,840 have a set process as far as gain 207 00:06:23,840 --> 00:06:25,600 staging and things like that 208 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,440 we could get more advanced more detailed 209 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,639 in this i want to give you a quick tip 210 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:29,600 today so that's 211 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,360 it if you want to go even more in depth 212 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:32,639 my full-length course mixing 213 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:33,759 breakthroughs i mean goes 214 00:06:33,759 --> 00:06:36,560 tremendously far into this idea of how 215 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:37,280 to treat 216 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:40,319 your buses in the mixing context or my 217 00:06:40,319 --> 00:06:41,199 full-length course 218 00:06:41,199 --> 00:06:43,360 mastering demystified goes into this 219 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:45,039 into some really great detail on the 220 00:06:45,039 --> 00:06:46,080 mastering end 221 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,720 why i advocate for setting up that 222 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:49,680 limiter first 223 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:51,440 getting yourself to appropriate level 224 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,360 first and then mastering into that 225 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,280 limiter in the mastering context 226 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:57,440 i think if you start integrating this 227 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:58,880 into your work right away 228 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,720 you're going to get tremendous results 229 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,479 out of it especially on the mastering 230 00:07:02,479 --> 00:07:02,960 side 231 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,319 hope this one has been useful for you if 232 00:07:04,319 --> 00:07:05,759 you want to go deeper there is mixing 233 00:07:05,759 --> 00:07:06,400 breakthroughs 234 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:07,840 mastering 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