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- I think one of the
horrors of our society,
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American society, maybe
it's true of others
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but I know of this country,
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is this break with the past,
a lack of continuity.
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Young people know
nothing of the past.
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For that matter, even people
who lived in the past have
forgotten it. .
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and I think the New Deal,
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The Arts Project, is
a good case in point.
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It's as though it never existed!
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Not even in history books, but
not in memories of people!
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♪ (dramatic drum music)
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- [Orson Welles] The 21st
of October, 1929. .
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It was not just Variety
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that gave the market
crash a bad notice.
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Many had idolized
Herbert Hoover.
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Only a year before
he had said:
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"We in America today are
nearer to the final triumph
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over poverty than ever before
in the history of any land. "
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By 1931, 12 million
Americans were out of work
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and farm prices hit bottom.
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♪ (banjo music)
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The Bonus Army:
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thousands of angry World
War I veterans marched
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on Washington, and many
spoke openly of revolution.
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Federal troops under General
MacArthur attacked the veterans.
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Still undaunted, Hoover
kept telling the country
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that prosperity was
just around the corner.
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- ♪ [singer] Which
side are you on,
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♪ Which side are you on?
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♪ Which side are you on, boys,
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♪ Which side are you on?
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♪ (banjo music)
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♪ (upbeat music)
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- [Orson Welles] In 1932, the
hero of the hour arrived:
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
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The popular governor of
New York would be president
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of the United States
for the next 13 years.
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He brought new enthusiasm,
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a New Deal.
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- So first of all. .
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let me assert my firm belief
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that the only thing
we have to fear is. .
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fear itself!
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♪ (upbeat music)
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- [Orson Welles] Roosevelt
didn't offer only rhetoric,
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he offered realities.
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The New Deal provided
jobs for close to 1/3
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of the nation's labor force.
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Public works like
highways, dams,
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parks, and public housing. .
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♪ (upbeat Swing music)
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These projects also
had a larger purpose.
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The New Deal promised
to restore meaning
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to the lives of millions.
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♪ (upbeat Swing music)
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The WPA did not
just help workers,
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it also puts unemployed
artists to work.
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Jobs were created for
thousands of musicians,
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painters, actors, dancers,
and photographers.
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♪ (upbeat Swing music)
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For $23. 86 a week,
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the standard WPA compensation,
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they gave the country an
unprecedented artistic
Renaissance.
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- The New Deal had
this wonderful idea,
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not just about theatre. It
extended to all professions;
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that it was better to take
people off the relief rolls,
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let's say, to give them
a small check each week
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to keep them alive. .
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rather than do that, it was
better to put them to work,
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even though receiving
the same amount of money
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and give them some self-respect
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that they were earning
this money instead
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of just receiving it as charity.
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♪ (indistinct singing)
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- [Orson Welles] In
the performing arts,
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jobs were provided
for playwrights,
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directors and actors, by the
Federal Theater Project.
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♪ (indistinct singing)
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The Federal Writers'
Project sent hundreds
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of writers to talk to
people all over the country.
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They found a vision
of a better world
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in the lives of ordinary people.
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- It gave the writer a
sense of his own country
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and of his immediate
environment.
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He had to explore that
environment in order
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to produce the books
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that the Writers'
Project was preparing.
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- You went to the small
towns and called a meeting
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in the city hall and asked
them what their history was.
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No one had ever asked
them before, probably, ever.
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"And what is your history?"
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And they came in
hoards to tell us.
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- [Orson Welles] Such experiences
were not only recorded
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by writers, but also by some
of the country's leading
photographers.
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They were hired by the Farm
Security Administration
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to visually document
the devastating effects
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of the depression
on rural America.
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- There were some of us,
including President Roosevelt,
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who realized that we were
passing through a time
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which we hoped would never be
repeated in American history. .
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and to have a record of
it seemed very important
at the time.
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- There was a need to produce
a collection of photographs
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that would show
the American people
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the terrible
conditions under which
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farm people lived:
the rural poverty,
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the migrant labor conditions,
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the environmental problems
such as the Dust Bowl,
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and the great drought that
took place in those years,
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and the general effects
of the Great Depression.
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And there was a need to
explain these problems as well
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as to justify the programs
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that Roosevelt and
Tugwell had developed
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to alleviate these situations.
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- Before the '30s, the United
States was an unknown island
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so far as art is concerned.
Certainly, we had the eight. .
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We had a rather nice tradition
of early American art,
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but it was not a world shaker,
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and after the '30s, just
because every Tom, Dick,
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and Harry was able to make
a good or a bad painting,
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and so many people
got their training,
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so many different points
of view were encouraged.
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They didn't ask whether
you painted this way
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or whether you painted
that way, they asked
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whether you needed
help or wanted help.
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- [Orson Welles] Murals, posters
and paintings by thousands
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of New Deal artists were
mounted in public buildings,
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and public places.
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In the past,
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artists had been
patronized by kings,
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bishops, and
wealthy individuals.
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In this country too,
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the arts had to rely
on private benefactors.
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Government sponsorship
of the arts
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in the '30s was a unique
experiment in American history.
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Of course, government
sponsorship has
its shortcomings.
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Often the bureaucracy
may feel entitled
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to its own ideas about art
and sometimes artists believed
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that they should only convey
social and political messages.
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In both cases, art can become
boring and propagandistic.
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When government
sponsors the arts,
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success or failure
largely depends
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on the individual
administrators involved.
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WPA appointments were good ones.
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Most often than not,
administrators took
the artist's side
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and thank God,
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protected them from
government interference.
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The Federal Theatre was led
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by an energetic young
woman, Hallie Flanagan.
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She'd been director of
the theatre workshop
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at Vassar College and was
well known as the author
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of a travel report
on her experience
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with the avant-garde
theatres in Europe
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and in the Soviet Union.
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She was concerned with
new forms of theatre,
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and with reaching audiences
who had never seen
live theatre before.
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- It was the first
time, and in many ways,
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the only time that I knew of. .
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a federally sponsored theatre
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that regarded theatre
as a communication,
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and therefore a
social responsibility.
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- We're having a book burning
on the green tomorrow night.
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- A what?
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- We're going to burn up all
this subversive literature.
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A lot of smutty stuff that's
trumpin' public knowledge.
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Have you got any objection?
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- Well, you won't find
any subversive books here!
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- Ohhh. .
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Now, how about this fella?
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Now this fella, Charles
Dickens. . wasn't he a communist?
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- The line that I always quote
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because I think it's the best
line that's ever been written
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on the subject was from
Brecht's "Galileo" when he said,
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"A man cannot un-see
what he's seen. "
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And a lot of people with a very
strong morality of some sort
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which was inculcated. . and
a part of the tradition. .
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saw things in the late
'20s and the early '30s
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that they could not un-see.
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- [Orson Welles] One of
the things the Federal
Theatre people
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could not un-see was the plight
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of minorities in
American society.
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For the first time
in American history,
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the Federal Theatre offered
black actors real opportunities.
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The first plays by and for
blacks were done in Harlem
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at the new Lafayette
Theatre under the direction
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of the actress, Rose McClendon,
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and the young producer,
John Houseman.
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- The question was what
kind of, just artistically,
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what kind of shows
should you do?
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Because there were those
who said we should go back
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and do the old stock
company thing of using
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black actors to play in
successful white plays.
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I was against that and
the community generally
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had turned now to being
against that sort of thing.
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There were those who had great
ambitions for the theatre,
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there were those who
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felt the theatre should
concern itself entirely
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with contemporary and
indigenous problems, and so on.
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I did a lot of thinking and
talking to a lot of people,
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and I finally came
to the decision
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with. . this advice that I got,
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that the only way to run it was
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to cut the theatre
into two halves.
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- [Orson Welles] One group was
formed to produce dramas
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of contemporary black life.
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It was led by Carlton Moss.
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- Well, we opened that theatre,
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the Federal Theatre,
the Lafayette section,
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the Lafayette Theatre with
"Walk Together Children,"
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which as I said,
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was a play that did not
challenge the status quo.
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It was based on the scripture,
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"The Meek Shall
Inherit the Earth. "
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That was its message
that eventually
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the bad people can be
persuaded to be good people. .
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if everybody follows
the scripture.
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- Then, simultaneously
with this,
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but it took longer to get going,
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we decided that we would
treat the black actors simply
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as an actor, and that we
would do great plays.
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We would do classics,
we would do any kind
of play we wanted
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and we would simply not
admit that there was any. .
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question of color
one way or the other.
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And obviously, the first
playwright with whom one
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should try this experiment is
obviously William Shakespeare.
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I had formed a great
friendship with Orson Wells,
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who was then only 19 years old,
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but I had this total conviction
that he was a genius.
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I asked him to try his hand
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at directing a Shakespearian
play with black actors,
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and he was enormously
enthusiastic.
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And immediately, the parallel
between Macbeth and Scotland
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in the 13th Century, and the
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history of Christophe in Haiti,
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which was again, the rise
of a soldier who becomes
a dictator,
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and finally ends
in a bloodbath. .
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that seemed a very interesting
and close parallel.
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♪ (dramatic adventurous music)
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- Arm! Arm and out!
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There is nor flying
hence nor tarrying here.
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I a'gin to be aweary of the sun,
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and wish th' estate o'
th' world were now undone.
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Ring the alarm bell!
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(bell rings)
♪ (trumpet blows)
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Blow, wind! Onward!
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At least we'll die with
harness on our back.
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What's he that was
not born of woman?
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Such a one am I
to fear, or none!
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- Let me find him, fortune!
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Tyrant, show thy face!
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I cannot strike
at wretched kerns,
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whose arms are hired
to bear their staves.
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If thou be'st slain,
and with no stroke of mine,
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my wife and children's
ghosts will haunt me still!
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- What is thy name?
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(gunshot)
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(wind howls)
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(Macbeth cackles)
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- My name's Macbeth!
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(gunshots)
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(wind howls)
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Lay on Macduff,
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and damned be him that
first cries, "Hold enough!"
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(shouting & commotion)
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- Our position was that we
should get into that theatre
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a cross section, or get the
largest possible audience,
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and in order to do
that you had to go
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to where most people were. .
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and I remember in the
opening of "Macbeth,"
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we went to the Elks,
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which is a fraternal
organization,
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and made an arrangement with
them to supply a band for us,
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and then we went to the
city and we got a permit
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and we had a parade.
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♪ (jazz parade music)
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I had a crew of about eight
people who plastered the town
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with placards and
we used to write
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on the sidewalk on the corner.
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Then we visited every
church in the community,
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so we got the
clergymen involved.
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We began to get
sell-out audiences.
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These were solid
black audiences.
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Then you had, of course,
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you had all of these people
coming from Downtown,
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white people who would
have been attracted
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by exotic quality.
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- From his mother's
womb, untimely ripped!
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(witches laugh)
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- Accursed be that
tongue that tells me so!
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(witches laugh & screech)
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And be these juggling
fiends. . no more believed.
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(cheering & commotion)
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- Hail king!
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♪ (dramatic music)
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- [crowd] Hail king!
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- [Macduff] Behold! Where stands
the usurper's cursed head.
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The time is free!
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All hail Malcolm!
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- See. . !
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the charmed. .
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wound up!
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- The most significant thing
about the Federal Theatre,
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particularly the
Harlem section of it,
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was that it gave for the
first time in the history
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of the American theatre,
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black technicians an
opportunity to get experience,
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and it broke the
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anti-black stronghold that
the stage hand union had.
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♪ (soft guitar music)
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- [Orson Welles] All the arts
suddenly became available
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to a vast audience.
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It was the beginning of
a truly popular culture.
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♪ (soft guitar music)
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Stage productions
toured the country,
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actors played in high
schools, public libraries,
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in tents and on truck platforms.
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The WPA encouraged painters
to seek public places
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for their work.
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Artists used to brush,
canvas and easel,
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received instruction in mural
painting techniques and soon,
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large tableaus sprang
up in court buildings,
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post offices and libraries.
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One of the leading painters
on the Chicago Arts Project
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was Aaron Bohrod.
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- I guess my own
inclinations were to go
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to ordinary subject
matter in an effort to. .
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come up with an aesthetic
result on the basis
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of everyday life. .
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unglamorous life.
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Went into every nook and
cranny of the city of Chicago
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for the materials that I
was interested in getting,
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and this is a South State
Street subject that I did
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in the city of the storefronts
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and of the characters
walking back and forth
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in the atmosphere there.
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The American artist was finally
looking at his own country
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for his subject matter,
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whereas formerly
it was the business
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of the talented young American
painter going to Paris,
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not only for his tutelage,
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but for his subject matter,
so that he came back
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and he painted some pretty
impressionist paintings modelled
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after sturdier models.
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But here the American
artist was looking
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at ramshackled red barns,
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at city streets which
were either tumbled down
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or reasonably sturdy.
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But in any case, at his own
country, his own city,
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his own back yard.
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♪ (soft guitar music)
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- [Orson Welles] The post office
lobby became the main stage
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for the rediscovery of
populist traditions.
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♪ (soft banjo music)
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Particularly in the
middle and Southwest,
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this led to the creation
of a new realism.
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It recorded the history
of regions whose spirit
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had never before been
expressed artistically.
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♪ (soft banjo music)
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Gallup, New Mexico
was a small town
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near the Navajo Reservation.
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Before 1935, Gallup never
had paintings, and the Navajo,
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not to mention Navajo painters,
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had no way to make
their views known.
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♪ (soft banjo music)
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Now, Gallup's Library has
an impressive collection
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of works by important
painters of the Southwest,
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most of them native Americans.
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- Now, I regard this as probably
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the most exciting
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painting of all, and this
is done by Harrison Begay.
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This is the famous
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Yébîchai.
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They dance, the nine-day dance,
where women and men dance.
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- [Orson Welles] Harrison Begay
is one of the most important
Navajo painters.
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His career as a painter began
with the Federal Arts Project.
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- My style of painting
changed very little.
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I follow the old traditional
Indian painting mostly. .
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although sometimes I do
other kind of paintings.
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This is the painting I do.
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It's an everyday
life of my people.
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But most of the demands. .
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by my people are these old,
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traditional paintings
with designs,
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different kinds of
legendary designs,
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traditional symbolic designs.
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That's what I do most of.
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- [Orson Welles] In the '30s,
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most of the Indian painters
created their finest work.
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Unimpeded by financial pressures
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and commercial considerations,
they could follow
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their own dictates rather
than work for the trading post
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and curio shops.
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The leading Navajo muralist,
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today an arts teacher
at an Indian school,
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was Andrew Tsinnahjinnie.
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- Well, we were in a group. .
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Indian artists
were in groups,
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and you will work
at a certain place,
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like Oklahoma and Tulsa.
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I was trained to. .
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to do the mural job large-scale.
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I had a helper, some
boys helped me to. .
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put up some large
murals, scaffolding. .
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and I painted some murals
in Phoenix, Arizona,
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in an administration building.
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♪ (soft guitar music)
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- [Orson Welles] To give a
voice to the voiceless,
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either by encouraging them
to speak for themselves
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or by calling attention
to their plight,
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this could be the motto
for all New Deal art.
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The voiceless, the
deprived, included farmers,
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especially in the Midwest.
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They had fallen victim to
sand storms and droughts.
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00:21:29,454 --> 00:21:32,791
Many had lost their
property and their work.
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Few across the country
could grasp
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the catastrophe that
had occurred.
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To understand and cope
with the situation,
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Roosevelt and his
secretary for agriculture,
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Henry Wallace, created
a special division
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within the Department
of Agriculture,
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The Resettlement Administration,
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later called the Farm
Security Administration, FSA.
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It was headed by
one of Roosevelt's
intellectual advisors,
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the young Columbia university
economics professor,
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Rexford Guy Tugwell.
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00:22:02,988 --> 00:22:07,909
- This was a peculiar time
when agriculture was changing.
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(clears throat)
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Not only was there
were a depression,
430
00:22:10,954 --> 00:22:14,666
but the techniques of
agriculture were changing.
431
00:22:15,167 --> 00:22:18,712
The cotton picker was
just coming into use,
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00:22:18,712 --> 00:22:23,300
and this meant that a great
many people in the South,
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sharecroppers and others,
had their jobs taken away
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from them, and there
began this terrible
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movement to the cities.
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- [Orson Welles] Tugwell
understood that the suffering
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of the farmers had to be
publicized to the country,
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and photographs seemed
to be the best medium.
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During his days at Columbia,
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he had published the first
economics textbook
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to use photographs
as illustrations.
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00:22:47,115 --> 00:22:48,950
The pictures for this
book had been assembled
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by his assistant, Roy Stryker.
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Tugwell now hired him to head
the FSA photography section.
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- So when I went to
Washington and took charge
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of this work that we were doing
447
00:23:02,547 --> 00:23:04,132
in the Department of Agriculture
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00:23:04,132 --> 00:23:07,552
and then the Resettlement
Administration,
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it seemed quite natural
to me to send for Roy,
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and tell him that he was
the kind of person we needed
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to make a visual record
of what was being done.
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And besides, to make
a historic record
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of what the times were like,
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because the times were very bad.
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- [Orson Welles] There was
only one major record
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of the catastrophe in
American agriculture.
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It was accompanied by an
extraordinary collection
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of photographs, something
unheard of at the time.
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It was written by a young
economist from California,
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Paul Schuster Taylor.
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- Well, why did I
want a photographer?
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I said because of the
conditions that I see
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in the field are the
conditions that need to be
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remedied. .
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and the only way that
I can show the people
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who make the decisions in the
cities what the conditions
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and the needs are is by
showing them photographs
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to supplement my analysis
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- [Orson Welles] The young
photographer who traveled with
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Taylor, and whom he later
married, was Dorothea Lange.
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Her work revealed both
her political commitment
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00:24:15,495 --> 00:24:17,706
and her acute powers
of observation,
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qualities Tugwell and
Stryker were looking for,
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and Dorothea Lange was hired
as the first FSA photographer.
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- ♪ [singer] When the
farmer comes to town
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♪ With his wagon broken down
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♪ Oh, the farmer is the
man that feeds them all
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♪ If you'll only look and
see, I think you will agree
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♪ That the farmer is the
man that feeds them all
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♪ The farmer is the man,
the farmer is the man
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♪ He lives on credit
'till the fall
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♪ Then they take
him by the hand
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♪ Then they lead him
through the land
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♪ And the merchant, he's
the one that gets it all
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- [Orson Welles] While Lange
tried to capture people
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in motion with small cameras,
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the second photographer
Stryker hired preferred
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the large plate
camera and the tripod.
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Walker Evans was already
acknowledged as one
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of the great photographic
artists of the time
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when he joined FSA.
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♪ (fiddle music)
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Evans refused any
touch of the exotic.
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His photos never deprived people
or things of their dignity.
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00:25:37,202 --> 00:25:42,207
He never degraded a subject
into a mere illustration.
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Ben Shahn, the next
photographer to join FSA,
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was already famous at
the time as a painter.
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His wife, Bernarda Bryson Shahn,
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remembers why he
took up photography.
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00:25:54,094 --> 00:25:58,056
- Once it is made
into a work of art,
501
00:25:58,056 --> 00:25:59,599
it becomes a symbolic thing.
502
00:25:59,599 --> 00:26:01,643
In other words, it
becomes the universal. .
503
00:26:01,643 --> 00:26:05,730
and he had a very strong
feeling about that,
504
00:26:05,730 --> 00:26:09,776
and particularly in the days
when he was using a camera,
505
00:26:09,776 --> 00:26:13,905
he had a very strong
feeling of the importance
506
00:26:13,905 --> 00:26:16,575
of specific things.
507
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:36,720
♪ (fiddle music)
508
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,638
- [Orson Welles] Three
things left their mark
509
00:26:38,638 --> 00:26:41,308
on FSA photographs:
510
00:26:41,308 --> 00:26:44,352
Dorothy Lange's precise
sense of the moment
511
00:26:44,352 --> 00:26:46,605
of highest intensity,
512
00:26:46,605 --> 00:26:49,232
Walker Evans' great
respect for the dignity
513
00:26:49,232 --> 00:26:52,235
of human beings and objects,
514
00:26:52,235 --> 00:26:54,487
and Ben Shahn's
conviction of the meaning
515
00:26:54,487 --> 00:26:58,783
of details seen in
the right context.
516
00:26:58,783 --> 00:27:01,411
These techniques were
extensively practiced
517
00:27:01,411 --> 00:27:04,623
by the younger
photographers Stryker hired.
518
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:06,333
Among them was Arthur Rothstein,
519
00:27:06,333 --> 00:27:09,461
who during the '30s shot
over 50,000 photographs
520
00:27:09,461 --> 00:27:13,465
for FSA before going on to
become chief photographer
521
00:27:13,465 --> 00:27:15,675
for Look Magazine.
522
00:27:15,675 --> 00:27:19,429
- The type of
photography that we did,
523
00:27:19,429 --> 00:27:22,641
whether we did it
consciously or unconsciously,
524
00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:27,979
could be called a social
documentary type of photograph,
525
00:27:27,979 --> 00:27:30,649
and that type of photograph,
526
00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:35,904
to my way of thinking,
is characterized
527
00:27:35,904 --> 00:27:40,825
by a selection of
significant details. .
528
00:27:40,825 --> 00:27:45,372
significant details which
comment on the relationship
529
00:27:45,372 --> 00:27:48,333
between people and
their environments,
530
00:27:48,333 --> 00:27:52,003
and significant details
which make the photograph
531
00:27:52,003 --> 00:27:56,591
more meaningful than just
a mere record of the scene.
532
00:27:56,591 --> 00:27:59,302
This is from the
very first assignment
533
00:27:59,302 --> 00:28:02,389
that I did in October, 1935.
534
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:04,641
The photograph is interesting,
535
00:28:04,641 --> 00:28:07,352
not only because it shows
this man with dignity,
536
00:28:07,352 --> 00:28:10,021
reading a book, the
sign on the wall,
537
00:28:10,021 --> 00:28:11,898
"Christ is the head
of this house,
538
00:28:11,898 --> 00:28:14,859
the silent listener
to every conversation,"
539
00:28:14,859 --> 00:28:19,406
combined with a picture
of Clara Bow over here,
540
00:28:19,406 --> 00:28:22,826
and the Colosseum over there.
541
00:28:22,826 --> 00:28:27,872
And, from this, you
get an idea, perhaps,
542
00:28:27,872 --> 00:28:31,710
of this man's interests.
This is his home: neat,
543
00:28:31,710 --> 00:28:37,048
well-organized, a little
lace cover for the table,
544
00:28:37,048 --> 00:28:40,135
and these other aspects
of his environment.
545
00:28:40,135 --> 00:28:42,721
♪ (guitar music)
546
00:28:42,721 --> 00:28:44,431
- [Orson Welles] Rothstein
was a New Yorker.
547
00:28:44,431 --> 00:28:46,683
The West for him was
unknown territory,
548
00:28:46,683 --> 00:28:49,936
strange at times,
surprising and exotic.
549
00:28:49,936 --> 00:29:02,449
♪ (guitar music)
550
00:29:02,449 --> 00:29:07,078
Quite the opposite
holds true for painter/
photographer, Russell Lee.
551
00:29:07,078 --> 00:29:08,413
He grew up in the West,
552
00:29:08,413 --> 00:29:11,916
and had a great commitment
to its ways and people.
553
00:29:11,916 --> 00:29:15,295
- This is actually
a picture of a family
554
00:29:15,295 --> 00:29:20,300
in Southwestern Iowa, that
is eating Christmas dinner,
555
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:21,760
as it so happened.
556
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,220
This was on the first
assignment that I had,
557
00:29:24,220 --> 00:29:26,347
which is the family
of Earl Pauley.
558
00:29:26,347 --> 00:29:30,977
The character of
the room, this. .
559
00:29:30,977 --> 00:29:33,646
cream separator. .
560
00:29:34,439 --> 00:29:37,358
All of these things are
important to tell
561
00:29:37,358 --> 00:29:39,861
the surroundings of
this particular family,
562
00:29:39,861 --> 00:29:43,782
or. . here's a
detail, very simple,
563
00:29:43,782 --> 00:29:46,951
of the entrance to a
home that tells quite a bit
564
00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:48,870
about the home there,
565
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:51,164
the general disrepair.
566
00:29:51,164 --> 00:29:55,460
This was in Oklahoma,
and. . much before the days
567
00:29:55,460 --> 00:29:57,212
of electricity as you can see.
568
00:29:57,212 --> 00:29:59,464
You have the old
fashioned washboard here,
569
00:29:59,464 --> 00:30:04,219
and the woman did the
work as you can well see.
570
00:30:04,219 --> 00:30:07,347
People at that time
had very little idea
571
00:30:07,347 --> 00:30:10,225
of what was going on in
one part of the country
572
00:30:10,225 --> 00:30:13,144
that they were not from.
573
00:30:13,144 --> 00:30:16,314
The communication was very poor.
574
00:30:16,314 --> 00:30:19,275
Transportation was
very poor at the time.
575
00:30:19,275 --> 00:30:21,945
There was no television.
576
00:30:21,945 --> 00:30:24,572
Radio was not. .
577
00:30:24,572 --> 00:30:26,783
too prevalent,
578
00:30:26,783 --> 00:30:32,664
and electrification,
rural electrification,
was not existent.
579
00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:39,003
♪ (banjo music)
580
00:30:39,003 --> 00:30:41,047
- [Orson Welles] Lee's
familiarity with Westerners
581
00:30:41,047 --> 00:30:44,092
and their world could best be
seen in his most famous work,
582
00:30:44,092 --> 00:30:46,344
in one of the very
first picture essays,
583
00:30:46,344 --> 00:30:50,890
a series about a self-help
community called Pie Town.
584
00:30:50,890 --> 00:30:54,936
- Pie Town was
isolated. . really,
585
00:30:54,936 --> 00:30:58,022
and here was a contact
with the outside world.
586
00:30:58,022 --> 00:30:59,566
This was the post office,
587
00:30:59,566 --> 00:31:02,777
the gas station,
and the stage down.
588
00:31:02,777 --> 00:31:05,905
Well, there was a woman
here a long time ago,
589
00:31:05,905 --> 00:31:08,533
who would bake very good pies.
590
00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:11,870
It so happened that this
was on the road west
591
00:31:11,870 --> 00:31:16,374
from Arkansas,
Louisiana and Texas,
592
00:31:16,374 --> 00:31:21,212
and many people who were
displaced by the tractor,
593
00:31:21,212 --> 00:31:25,216
or by the drought or whatever,
594
00:31:25,216 --> 00:31:29,220
were moving to California,
trying to find work. .
595
00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:32,599
and this was one place where
many people had stopped,
596
00:31:32,599 --> 00:31:35,643
and they had begun to
form a community there,
597
00:31:35,643 --> 00:31:39,814
of these displaced people.
They were farmers,
598
00:31:39,814 --> 00:31:44,402
and here was a chance to get
some cash money right away
599
00:31:44,402 --> 00:31:45,945
to get established.
600
00:31:45,945 --> 00:31:50,241
So people in the community
would welcome the newcomers.
601
00:31:50,241 --> 00:31:54,829
They would help them to. .
construct their own house.
602
00:31:54,829 --> 00:31:57,624
About the only thing
that the newcomer needed
603
00:31:57,624 --> 00:32:00,084
was maybe a dollar to
buy some nails with.
604
00:32:00,084 --> 00:32:04,255
There was one building in
particular that was a school,
605
00:32:04,255 --> 00:32:06,257
it was a community hall,
606
00:32:06,257 --> 00:32:07,717
and it was a church,
607
00:32:07,717 --> 00:32:10,178
and they used it
at the right time.
608
00:32:10,178 --> 00:32:12,263
This was a community sing,
609
00:32:12,263 --> 00:32:16,976
and just a detail of
three of the ladies.
610
00:32:16,976 --> 00:32:21,606
- Well, most of us were familiar
with the work of Lewis Hine. .
611
00:32:21,606 --> 00:32:25,193
and before that, Jacob Riis.
612
00:32:25,193 --> 00:32:28,655
They were sociologists
with cameras,
613
00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:34,035
and we thought that we would
follow along those same lines,
614
00:32:34,035 --> 00:32:39,707
to be sociologically oriented
with our photographs.
615
00:32:39,707 --> 00:32:41,459
♪
616
00:32:41,459 --> 00:32:44,921
- [Orson Welles] Jacob Riis, the
Danish immigrant who wrote
617
00:32:44,921 --> 00:32:47,006
"The Making of an American"
618
00:32:47,006 --> 00:32:50,551
and "How the Other Half
Lives," was the pioneer
619
00:32:50,551 --> 00:32:54,347
of socially conscious
documentary photography.
620
00:32:54,347 --> 00:32:55,723
In the late 19th Century,
621
00:32:55,723 --> 00:32:57,642
working as a police
reporter in the slums
622
00:32:57,642 --> 00:33:00,144
of Manhattan's steaming
Lower East Side,
623
00:33:00,144 --> 00:33:02,397
he took his famous photos.
624
00:33:02,397 --> 00:33:04,565
Riis hoped they would
make clear to the well-off
625
00:33:04,565 --> 00:33:08,319
just how necessary
progressive reform was.
626
00:33:09,153 --> 00:33:13,241
Reform was also the goal of
Lewis Hine's photographs.
627
00:33:13,241 --> 00:33:16,786
Taking pictures of Ellis Island
before the First World War,
628
00:33:16,786 --> 00:33:18,997
Hines found ways
of arranging people
629
00:33:18,997 --> 00:33:23,835
and things to give him
striking documentary images.
630
00:33:23,835 --> 00:33:26,254
♪ (soft music)
631
00:33:26,254 --> 00:33:29,173
He asked people to look
directly at the camera,
632
00:33:29,173 --> 00:33:31,342
something portrait
photographers and
633
00:33:31,342 --> 00:33:34,929
studios had deliberately
tried to avoid.
634
00:33:34,929 --> 00:33:42,353
♪ (soft music)
635
00:33:42,353 --> 00:33:46,024
The social documentary,
both photographic and written,
636
00:33:46,024 --> 00:33:51,070
was at once a historical record,
and a tool to change society.
637
00:33:51,070 --> 00:33:53,865
♪ (soft music)
638
00:33:53,865 --> 00:33:57,535
It was rediscovered in the '30s
as the most characteristic way
639
00:33:57,535 --> 00:34:00,580
to express the American vision.
640
00:34:00,580 --> 00:34:04,083
♪ (soft guitar music)
641
00:34:04,083 --> 00:34:07,045
The social documentary,
with its emphasis on
642
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:11,299
significant detail, became
the form most widely practiced
643
00:34:11,299 --> 00:34:15,970
by the more than 10,000 members
of the Federal Writers' Project.
644
00:34:15,970 --> 00:34:21,267
Between 1935 and 1940,
they produced over
3,000 publications,
645
00:34:21,267 --> 00:34:24,395
most of them dealing
with local history.
646
00:34:24,395 --> 00:34:27,774
The major work was a series
of 50 travel guide books
647
00:34:27,774 --> 00:34:29,525
to the United States.
648
00:34:29,525 --> 00:34:31,944
Each volume contains
a social history
649
00:34:31,944 --> 00:34:33,988
of the state it covers.
650
00:34:33,988 --> 00:34:36,991
In charge of the travel guide
series was the national editor
651
00:34:36,991 --> 00:34:39,911
of the Writers' Project,
Jerre Mangione.
652
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:42,580
- Robert Cantwell,
who strikes me as one
653
00:34:42,580 --> 00:34:46,417
of the most discerning of
the critics of the '30s. .
654
00:34:46,417 --> 00:34:48,920
thought that the books
were extremely valuable
655
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,424
because they presented
America in a way that no one
656
00:34:53,424 --> 00:34:56,636
had ever seen America before.
657
00:34:57,470 --> 00:35:01,265
Far from being the very thrifty,
658
00:35:01,265 --> 00:35:05,561
sober kind of people that
Americans had been considered,
659
00:35:05,561 --> 00:35:10,191
he found in these
volumes much evidence
660
00:35:10,191 --> 00:35:14,362
that they were
ingenuous and naive,
661
00:35:14,362 --> 00:35:19,951
and that they were gamblers,
and. . for example, they would. .
662
00:35:19,951 --> 00:35:25,331
they would toss a coin to see
where a boundary line should be.
663
00:35:25,331 --> 00:35:28,501
Or they would. . they were. .
664
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:33,005
sort of childish in
some respects. They were. .
665
00:35:33,005 --> 00:35:36,008
You've heard of spite fences,
where a person would put
666
00:35:36,008 --> 00:35:39,512
up a fence just be
hostile to his neighbors.
667
00:35:39,512 --> 00:35:45,309
There were also spite
hotels, and spite railroads,
668
00:35:45,309 --> 00:35:48,479
just to get even
with some competitor.
669
00:35:48,479 --> 00:35:50,189
♪
670
00:35:50,189 --> 00:35:52,733
- [Orson Welles] The depression
hit worst in the very region
671
00:35:52,733 --> 00:35:56,821
which most attracted the
populist-minded artists,
672
00:35:56,821 --> 00:36:00,491
writers and photographers
of the time: the Midwest.
673
00:36:00,491 --> 00:36:02,660
They felt the
attitudes they found
674
00:36:02,660 --> 00:36:08,166
among farmers and miners would
help to build a new society.
675
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:10,334
These ideas are most
clearly expressed
676
00:36:10,334 --> 00:36:12,670
by a labor journalist, feminist,
677
00:36:12,670 --> 00:36:15,339
poet and novelist who
was the driving force
678
00:36:15,339 --> 00:36:19,844
behind the Minnesota Writers'
Project. . Meridel Lesueur.
679
00:36:19,844 --> 00:36:22,180
- And all those struggles. .
680
00:36:22,180 --> 00:36:25,308
I think the first taking
over of a grocery store was
681
00:36:25,308 --> 00:36:29,520
in Minneapolis, where everybody
just leaned against the glass
682
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:33,357
and it broke and then we all
went in and took groceries.
683
00:36:33,357 --> 00:36:35,109
The best ham I ever had
684
00:36:35,109 --> 00:36:37,236
I took out of that
grocery store.
685
00:36:37,236 --> 00:36:39,363
(chuckles)
686
00:36:39,989 --> 00:36:41,490
The Midwest. .
687
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:47,955
it has a deep democratic
populist history, because. .
688
00:36:47,955 --> 00:36:51,375
it was settled really by
the Homestead Act,
689
00:36:51,375 --> 00:36:54,045
where an amazing thing
happened and it never happened
690
00:36:54,045 --> 00:36:59,759
in the world before, where
you got 160 acres of land
691
00:36:59,759 --> 00:37:03,095
for simply developing it.
692
00:37:03,095 --> 00:37:05,890
What is little known is
that in North Dakota,
693
00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,226
the people actually
took over the state,
694
00:37:08,226 --> 00:37:11,896
actually voted in what was
called the Nonpartisan League.
695
00:37:11,896 --> 00:37:14,774
It was really for
one year in 1918,
696
00:37:14,774 --> 00:37:18,236
a socialist state in the
middle of the United States,
697
00:37:18,236 --> 00:37:22,281
and then it was smashed
down in the First World War.
698
00:37:22,281 --> 00:37:25,910
I think that a lot of the
pressure on the Roosevelt regime
699
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:29,080
for relief, and for. .
700
00:37:29,997 --> 00:37:35,461
the projects, and the
WPA projects, and the
CCC it was called,
701
00:37:35,461 --> 00:37:36,796
came from the Middle West.
702
00:37:36,796 --> 00:37:41,968
In fact, many of the
laws like social security
703
00:37:41,968 --> 00:37:45,054
and unemployment insurance
were created in North Dakota
704
00:37:45,054 --> 00:37:46,597
in the Nonpartisan League days.
705
00:37:46,597 --> 00:37:49,225
♪ (banjo plays)
706
00:37:49,225 --> 00:37:51,560
- [Orson Welles] Thus, it was
the Midwestern countryside
707
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,188
with its small towns
that became the setting
708
00:37:54,188 --> 00:37:57,316
for the most influential
novel of working class life.
709
00:37:57,316 --> 00:38:01,445
"The Disinherited"
by Jack Conroy.
710
00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:04,490
Conroy, a miner's son,
grew up in Moberly,
711
00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:06,784
a small mining town
in central Missouri
712
00:38:06,784 --> 00:38:09,120
and spent most of
his life there.
713
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,706
- This used to be the
Wabash Railroad Station
714
00:38:11,706 --> 00:38:15,334
in the days when Moberly
was a great railroad center.
715
00:38:15,334 --> 00:38:19,005
Eight trains daily came in
here, from all directions.
716
00:38:19,005 --> 00:38:21,799
Now there are no
passenger trains at all.
717
00:38:21,799 --> 00:38:25,303
You can see the
station is boarded up.
718
00:38:25,303 --> 00:38:29,473
The freight trains come through,
but no passenger trains at all.
719
00:38:29,473 --> 00:38:31,017
When I think of coming
back to Moberly,
720
00:38:31,017 --> 00:38:33,352
I think of Vachel
Lindsay's lines
721
00:38:33,352 --> 00:38:35,980
about Springfield, Illinois.
722
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:38,774
People going into
Springfield see nothing
723
00:38:38,774 --> 00:38:41,360
but a dingy little
mining town. .
724
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:46,699
but I think of Vachel's lines
about Springfield, Illinois.
725
00:38:46,699 --> 00:38:50,202
He said "Let not our
town be large, remembering
726
00:38:50,202 --> 00:38:52,955
that little Athens
was the Muses' home,
727
00:38:52,955 --> 00:38:56,167
that Oxford ruleth the
heart of London still,
728
00:38:56,167 --> 00:38:58,669
and Florence brought
the Renaissance to Rome. "
729
00:38:58,669 --> 00:38:59,754
♪ (banjo music)
730
00:38:59,754 --> 00:39:02,340
- [Orson Welles] Writers thought
that only from such small towns
731
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:05,176
as Florence, Athens or Moberly,
732
00:39:05,176 --> 00:39:08,346
a genuine civilization
could originate.
733
00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:10,723
Some anthropologists
of the 1930s looked
734
00:39:10,723 --> 00:39:14,143
for enduring culture
in primitive tribes.
735
00:39:14,143 --> 00:39:16,520
Conroy looked for it in Moberly.
736
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:20,024
This insistence that
the American small town
737
00:39:20,024 --> 00:39:23,778
had world importance
was expressed by
Conroy's publication
738
00:39:23,778 --> 00:39:25,905
in Moberly of two magazines:
739
00:39:25,905 --> 00:39:30,326
"The Anvil," which later
merged with "Partisan Review,"
740
00:39:30,326 --> 00:39:33,037
and "The Rebel Poet. "
741
00:39:33,037 --> 00:39:34,413
♪ (banjo music)
742
00:39:34,413 --> 00:39:37,333
"The Rebel Poet's"
manifesto outlined the mood
743
00:39:37,333 --> 00:39:39,752
and outlook of the
writers of the period.
744
00:39:39,752 --> 00:39:42,713
- "We champion the calls of
the weak and defenseless.
745
00:39:42,713 --> 00:39:45,883
We combat the greed
of industrial barons,
746
00:39:45,883 --> 00:39:47,718
who are converting
American laborers
747
00:39:47,718 --> 00:39:49,553
into abject serfs.
748
00:39:49,553 --> 00:39:55,643
We ridicule the musty echoes
of the Fin de siècle slogan,
749
00:39:55,643 --> 00:39:56,894
"Art for art's sake,"
750
00:39:56,894 --> 00:40:00,272
and inscribe on our banner,
"Art for humanity's sake. "
751
00:40:00,272 --> 00:40:03,984
- ♪ [singer] When you're
asked about living
752
00:40:03,984 --> 00:40:06,237
♪ This is what you say
753
00:40:06,237 --> 00:40:12,410
♪ We're so darn poor and
ragged we can never get away
754
00:40:12,410 --> 00:40:18,958
♪ And it's hard times, and
old coalmans and mines
755
00:40:18,958 --> 00:40:24,505
♪ A hard time, poor boy. .
756
00:40:24,505 --> 00:40:28,092
- I come back. .
757
00:40:28,092 --> 00:40:31,595
to Moberly here, from Toledo. .
758
00:40:31,595 --> 00:40:33,013
you know?
759
00:40:33,013 --> 00:40:34,306
Scrambling around
as best I could,
760
00:40:34,306 --> 00:40:36,475
selling some stories to
the American Merkley,
761
00:40:36,475 --> 00:40:38,185
that kept me alive.
762
00:40:38,185 --> 00:40:40,980
My wife's wages working
at a shoe factory,
763
00:40:40,980 --> 00:40:43,774
for about $6 a week. .
764
00:40:43,774 --> 00:40:48,696
and some book reviews for the
St. Louis Post Dispatch. .
765
00:40:48,696 --> 00:40:51,657
and in the meantime,
I'd been communicating
with Nelson Algren,
766
00:40:51,657 --> 00:40:54,326
an old friend who had
contributed to "The Anvil"
767
00:40:54,326 --> 00:40:55,619
and all that.
768
00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:56,954
So he got me to come up there
769
00:40:56,954 --> 00:40:58,956
and I stayed at his
pad until I finally got
770
00:40:58,956 --> 00:41:00,541
on the Chicago Project.
771
00:41:00,541 --> 00:41:05,713
- I was just knocking around
the country from 1931 to 1935. .
772
00:41:05,713 --> 00:41:08,799
and so I was very pleased
when I found I could go up
773
00:41:08,799 --> 00:41:11,594
to his office and
get a regular check,
774
00:41:11,594 --> 00:41:14,054
which was about $85 a
month to begin with,
775
00:41:14,054 --> 00:41:17,391
but I rose very
rapidly to $125 a month
776
00:41:17,391 --> 00:41:19,977
within about four years' time. .
777
00:41:19,977 --> 00:41:21,979
but it gave me leisure,
778
00:41:21,979 --> 00:41:24,231
that is, I could go up
there at 10 in the morning
779
00:41:24,231 --> 00:41:27,485
and sign out at noon, and say
you were going to the library
780
00:41:27,485 --> 00:41:29,987
and go to the racetrack.
781
00:41:29,987 --> 00:41:34,033
- The singer and dancer
named Katherine Dunham. .
782
00:41:34,658 --> 00:41:39,330
you know, is also a specialist
in West Indian folklore,
783
00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:40,414
and folk dancing, and all that.
784
00:41:40,414 --> 00:41:44,919
So she was our
supervisor, and she quit. .
785
00:41:44,919 --> 00:41:49,048
and they put Arna
Bontemps and I on the job.
786
00:41:49,048 --> 00:41:50,799
Arna and I worked
together out there,
787
00:41:50,799 --> 00:41:52,843
and we were doing a study
788
00:41:52,843 --> 00:41:54,762
called the "The
Negro in Illinois. "
789
00:41:54,762 --> 00:41:56,305
♪
790
00:41:56,305 --> 00:41:58,015
- [Orson Welles] "The
Negro in Illinois,"
791
00:41:58,015 --> 00:42:00,142
later published under the title
792
00:42:00,142 --> 00:42:02,019
"They Seek a City,"
793
00:42:02,019 --> 00:42:04,355
was only one in a
large number of studies
794
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:07,525
in black history the Federal
Writers' Project produced.
795
00:42:07,525 --> 00:42:11,195
The most important were
the "Ex-Slave Narratives,"
796
00:42:11,195 --> 00:42:14,156
interviews with several
hundred former slaves
797
00:42:14,156 --> 00:42:18,077
of whom over 10,000 were
still alive in the '30s.
798
00:42:18,077 --> 00:42:27,795
♪ (soft upbeat banjo music)
799
00:42:27,795 --> 00:42:31,882
This concern to document
local and regional history
800
00:42:31,882 --> 00:42:34,343
was accompanied by an
equally strong interest
801
00:42:34,343 --> 00:42:38,430
in the great themes of American
and Western civilization.
802
00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:46,230
♪ (soft guitar music)
803
00:42:46,814 --> 00:42:49,108
One of the more successful
attempts could be seen
804
00:42:49,108 --> 00:42:51,735
in the Bronx Post
Office in New York City,
805
00:42:51,735 --> 00:42:53,821
the mural competition
for which was won
806
00:42:53,821 --> 00:42:56,907
by the late Ben
Shahn, and his wife,
807
00:42:56,907 --> 00:42:58,576
Bernarda Bryson Shahn.
808
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:00,953
- Probably well over
a hundred artists
809
00:43:00,953 --> 00:43:03,038
entered that competition,
810
00:43:03,038 --> 00:43:05,583
and it was certainly
a great day for Ben
811
00:43:05,583 --> 00:43:09,086
when the telegram came
that he had won it,
812
00:43:09,086 --> 00:43:13,716
and he was terribly happy.
813
00:43:13,716 --> 00:43:16,260
I had submitted
some sketches, too. .
814
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:18,637
and they accepted
me as an assistant.
815
00:43:19,930 --> 00:43:22,433
If one is involved with people,
816
00:43:22,433 --> 00:43:25,978
and with politics,
and with ideas,
817
00:43:25,978 --> 00:43:30,107
certainly he could never
find a readier audience
818
00:43:30,107 --> 00:43:33,819
than he could in a big
post office like that.
819
00:43:35,279 --> 00:43:39,950
And Ben chose for his
theme Walt Whitman's poem,
820
00:43:39,950 --> 00:43:41,785
"I See America Working. "
821
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:48,792
And so he had all of the
kinds of working in the mural,
822
00:43:48,792 --> 00:43:52,921
and then on the end
wall that he had Whitman
823
00:43:52,921 --> 00:43:55,924
and the words of the poem,
824
00:43:55,924 --> 00:44:00,804
and so that was the
key to the whole thing.
825
00:44:00,804 --> 00:44:06,477
Whitman's total song
of his "Song of Myself"
826
00:44:06,477 --> 00:44:09,146
was not really a song of myself,
827
00:44:09,146 --> 00:44:12,441
it was a song of
myself as everybody,
828
00:44:12,441 --> 00:44:15,861
and I would say that
that would correspond
829
00:44:15,861 --> 00:44:20,324
to Ben's view 100% that
Ben felt his identification
830
00:44:20,324 --> 00:44:22,576
with people, just totally.
831
00:44:22,576 --> 00:44:24,495
- [Orson Welles] Shahn had
learned mural painting
832
00:44:24,495 --> 00:44:27,206
from Diego Rivera, the famous
Mexican artist who came
833
00:44:27,206 --> 00:44:28,999
to the United
States in the '30s.
834
00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:32,670
One of Rivera's famous murals
was a dramatic rendering
835
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:35,506
of the Ford assembly plant
in Detroit, commissioned
836
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:37,466
by Henry and Edsel Ford.
837
00:44:37,466 --> 00:44:51,021
♪ (upbeat banjo music)
838
00:44:51,021 --> 00:44:53,899
New Deal artists emulated
Rivera's realism.
839
00:44:53,899 --> 00:44:55,442
They wanted to apply his methods
840
00:44:55,442 --> 00:44:58,404
to early American
themes and traditions.
841
00:44:58,404 --> 00:45:12,876
♪ (upbeat banjo music)
842
00:45:13,293 --> 00:45:16,380
One painter who admired
Rivera was George Biddle,
843
00:45:16,380 --> 00:45:19,049
the brother of Roosevelt's
first attorney general.
844
00:45:19,049 --> 00:45:22,344
The huge mural of Biddle's
commands the staircase
845
00:45:22,344 --> 00:45:25,806
of the Justice
Department in Washington.
846
00:45:25,806 --> 00:45:30,144
The painting quotes Supreme
Court Justice Louis Brandeis:
847
00:45:30,144 --> 00:45:31,770
"If we would guide by the light
848
00:45:31,770 --> 00:45:35,399
of reason, we must let
our minds be bold. "
849
00:45:35,399 --> 00:45:55,002
♪ (soft flute music)
850
00:45:55,002 --> 00:45:58,922
The mural vividly
illuminates the reformed
vision of the New Deal.
851
00:45:58,922 --> 00:46:01,800
It shows the path of
the immigrant leading
852
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,261
from hard work and
dirty sweat shops
853
00:46:04,261 --> 00:46:07,431
to the richly set
table of the New Deal.
854
00:46:07,431 --> 00:46:09,141
Biddle portrayed several members
855
00:46:09,141 --> 00:46:13,604
of Roosevelt's first
cabinet seated at the table.
856
00:46:13,604 --> 00:46:15,647
♪ (soft flute music)
857
00:46:15,647 --> 00:46:18,650
(footsteps)
858
00:46:18,650 --> 00:46:23,572
The treasury employed artists
and paid them a modest salary.
859
00:46:23,572 --> 00:46:28,160
It wasn't until 1935 under
the WPA that a program was set
860
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:32,122
up specifically for
the unemployed artist.
861
00:46:32,122 --> 00:46:36,502
♪ (guitar music)
862
00:46:36,502 --> 00:46:38,462
The museum curator,
Holger Cahill,
863
00:46:38,462 --> 00:46:41,840
was appointed head of
the Federal Arts Project.
864
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,760
Cahill had made a name for
himself pioneering exhibitions
865
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,221
of American folk art.
866
00:46:47,221 --> 00:46:49,556
He was considered a
compromised candidate
867
00:46:49,556 --> 00:46:51,308
who could satisfy
both the radical
868
00:46:51,308 --> 00:46:54,645
and the more academic
artists of the time.
869
00:46:55,187 --> 00:46:57,648
Treasury Department
artists worked exclusively
870
00:46:57,648 --> 00:47:00,234
on murals and sculptures
for federal buildings,
871
00:47:00,234 --> 00:47:02,194
often with patriotic themes.
872
00:47:02,194 --> 00:47:04,321
The Art Project artists,
873
00:47:04,321 --> 00:47:06,949
thematically much
less restricted,
874
00:47:06,949 --> 00:47:09,618
worked in many other areas.
875
00:47:09,618 --> 00:47:10,536
There were print shops
876
00:47:10,536 --> 00:47:13,539
where they prepared
posters urging examinations
877
00:47:13,539 --> 00:47:14,832
for the eyes, the teeth,
878
00:47:14,832 --> 00:47:17,709
and for venereal diseases.
879
00:47:17,709 --> 00:47:21,505
♪ (guitar music)
880
00:47:21,505 --> 00:47:24,007
Berenice Abbott
photographed New York City
881
00:47:24,007 --> 00:47:26,385
for The Arts Project.
882
00:47:26,844 --> 00:47:30,973
Fashion designers
worked in WPA workshops.
883
00:47:30,973 --> 00:47:36,353
WPA artists designed postage
stamps and even the nickel.
884
00:47:36,353 --> 00:47:39,773
♪ (soft guitar music)
885
00:47:39,773 --> 00:47:41,859
And they created
a unique inventory
886
00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:44,778
of American popular
arts and design.
887
00:47:44,778 --> 00:47:50,742
♪ (soft guitar music)
888
00:47:50,742 --> 00:47:52,744
Weather vanes, ship figureheads,
889
00:47:52,744 --> 00:47:55,163
silverware, doorknobs. .
890
00:47:55,163 --> 00:48:00,085
This index was the pet project
of folklorist, Holger Cahill.
891
00:48:00,085 --> 00:48:02,629
These meticulous
drawings allowed hundreds
892
00:48:02,629 --> 00:48:04,715
of artists to
practice their craft,
893
00:48:04,715 --> 00:48:08,218
and to prepare for later
careers in the applied arts.
894
00:48:08,218 --> 00:48:09,553
More than any other achievement,
895
00:48:09,553 --> 00:48:12,055
the index fulfilled
the two major goals
896
00:48:12,055 --> 00:48:14,057
of The Arts Projects:
897
00:48:14,057 --> 00:48:19,438
to develop skills, and
to provide relief for
the unemployed.
898
00:48:20,397 --> 00:48:24,318
- A New Deal did provide jobs.
899
00:48:24,318 --> 00:48:27,362
Many such programs that
have been, of course,
900
00:48:27,362 --> 00:48:31,074
maligned by those who hated
the New Deal, here in Chicago
901
00:48:31,074 --> 00:48:32,951
and the "Chicago Tribune,"
902
00:48:32,951 --> 00:48:37,998
when the leading opponents
had front page cartoons
903
00:48:37,998 --> 00:48:41,919
all the time, damning
the New Deal.
904
00:48:44,254 --> 00:48:49,760
And the usual clown was
the guy with the glasses,
905
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,929
the radical professor. .
906
00:48:51,929 --> 00:48:56,141
and generally the man leaning
on the shovel was the attack
907
00:48:56,141 --> 00:48:59,770
on the Works Projects
Administration, the WPA,
908
00:48:59,770 --> 00:49:02,314
and so "These guys are
getting money for nothin' "
909
00:49:02,314 --> 00:49:06,485
- [Orson Welles] "Reds in charge
of Federal Writers' Project. "
910
00:49:06,485 --> 00:49:09,529
The attacks on the
WPA Arts Projects soon
911
00:49:09,529 --> 00:49:11,657
became politically charged.
912
00:49:11,657 --> 00:49:13,617
It was in this
atmosphere of suspicion
913
00:49:13,617 --> 00:49:14,660
that the man who was later
914
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:17,412
to become Henry Wallace's
campaign manager
915
00:49:17,412 --> 00:49:19,331
was made state supervisor
916
00:49:19,331 --> 00:49:22,376
of the Illinois Writers'
Project, Curtis MacDougal.
917
00:49:22,376 --> 00:49:25,045
- Well, it was a part of
an entire anti-New Deal,
918
00:49:25,045 --> 00:49:26,672
anti-Franklin Roosevelt.
919
00:49:26,672 --> 00:49:29,383
The camp there was
easily reactionary,
920
00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:32,803
the economic royalists,
he called them.
921
00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:36,723
We've called them
fascists and worse since,
922
00:49:36,723 --> 00:49:38,850
and they deserve all
they were called.
923
00:49:38,850 --> 00:49:41,311
They did everything they could
to throw obstacles in the way.
924
00:49:41,311 --> 00:49:45,190
- [Orson Welles] Martin Dies, a
congressman from Texas, began
925
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:48,986
to make a political career out
of anti-New Deal sentiment.
926
00:49:48,986 --> 00:49:51,029
In 1938, Dies set up a committee
927
00:49:51,029 --> 00:49:53,991
to investigate
un-American activities.
928
00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,493
Among the first called
before Dies' committee
929
00:49:56,493 --> 00:49:58,495
were the directors of
the Federal Theatre
930
00:49:58,495 --> 00:50:00,205
and the Federal
Writers' Project.
931
00:50:00,205 --> 00:50:03,542
- It was obvious to
all of us that Mr. Dies
932
00:50:03,542 --> 00:50:06,586
and his committee were
using the arts projects,
933
00:50:06,586 --> 00:50:09,965
especially the Writers'
Project and the Theatre Project,
934
00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:14,845
as a whipping boy, as a way
of attacking the New Deal.
935
00:50:14,845 --> 00:50:16,805
It's very easy to
attack artists,
936
00:50:16,805 --> 00:50:18,140
much easier than, say,
937
00:50:18,140 --> 00:50:23,186
to attack the
larger groups of WPA
938
00:50:23,186 --> 00:50:27,482
workers, such as construction
workers and so on.
939
00:50:27,482 --> 00:50:29,317
So, the writers
940
00:50:29,317 --> 00:50:32,320
and the theatre people were
constantly under attack.
941
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,072
- Well during the three years,
942
00:50:34,072 --> 00:50:36,950
more than three years that
I was the state supervisor,
943
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:39,453
probably 1000-person. . the
Art Project in Illinois
944
00:50:39,453 --> 00:50:41,663
was by far the largest
in the country.
945
00:50:41,663 --> 00:50:44,624
New York, which gets so much
of the publicity, and the
946
00:50:44,624 --> 00:50:49,713
books and articles had only 10%
of the total population. .
947
00:50:49,713 --> 00:50:56,053
and we had about. .
probably 500 at a time. .
948
00:50:56,053 --> 00:50:58,055
and of those are so many
949
00:50:58,055 --> 00:51:02,100
that have become
very prominent since,
950
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:04,728
very successful, and
who if they hadn't
951
00:51:04,728 --> 00:51:08,231
had been kept alive during
those horrible days,
952
00:51:08,231 --> 00:51:10,817
never would have
come where they are.
953
00:51:10,817 --> 00:51:13,278
- [Orson Welles] Saul Bellow,
the Nobel prize winner,
954
00:51:13,278 --> 00:51:15,113
was involved with the project.
955
00:51:15,113 --> 00:51:16,990
So it was Ralph Ellison,
956
00:51:16,990 --> 00:51:20,243
the author of the
"Invisible Man. "
957
00:51:21,078 --> 00:51:24,081
Studs Terkel became
famous for his collections
958
00:51:24,081 --> 00:51:25,832
of oral history.
959
00:51:25,832 --> 00:51:29,419
The poet, Conrad
Aiken, was involved,
960
00:51:29,419 --> 00:51:31,671
as was Maxwell Bodenheim,
961
00:51:31,671 --> 00:51:34,508
already a well-known
successful writer.
962
00:51:34,508 --> 00:51:37,427
Richard Wright was supported
when he wrote his novel
963
00:51:37,427 --> 00:51:40,180
"Native Son," probably
the most important book
964
00:51:40,180 --> 00:51:43,683
which owes its existence to
the Federal Writers' Project.
965
00:51:43,683 --> 00:51:47,979
- All of those people were
these lazy bums that worked
966
00:51:47,979 --> 00:51:50,607
for me on the Writers' Project,
967
00:51:50,607 --> 00:51:52,776
people that were
looked down upon
968
00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:57,155
and condemned by the
old guard taxpayers
969
00:51:57,155 --> 00:52:00,784
who resented the whole
New Deal Project.
970
00:52:00,784 --> 00:52:03,120
- [Orson Welles] All of the
projects put to work skills
971
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,790
and talents, which might've
stayed undeveloped.
972
00:52:06,790 --> 00:52:10,377
The record of The Arts Project
is the most staggering.
973
00:52:10,377 --> 00:52:12,212
Practically without exception,
974
00:52:12,212 --> 00:52:14,548
every American artist
born between 1900
975
00:52:14,548 --> 00:52:20,345
and 1915 spent his formative
years in The Arts Project.
976
00:52:20,345 --> 00:52:23,807
Most of their work from
this time has been lost,
977
00:52:23,807 --> 00:52:25,559
and today we have
to rely on black
978
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:28,645
and white archive photographs.
979
00:52:28,645 --> 00:52:32,482
Willem de Kooning painted
this ship's figurehead.
980
00:52:32,482 --> 00:52:36,820
♪ (guitar music)
981
00:52:36,820 --> 00:52:41,992
Jackson Pollock did these
harvest and factory scenes.
982
00:52:41,992 --> 00:52:44,244
♪ (guitar music)
983
00:52:44,244 --> 00:52:48,248
Mark Rothko painted
this landscape.
984
00:52:48,999 --> 00:52:52,377
Stuart Davis did this
abstract painting.
985
00:52:52,377 --> 00:52:55,380
Arshile Gorky did this mural.
986
00:52:55,380 --> 00:52:58,842
Joseph Stella painted this silo.
987
00:52:59,342 --> 00:53:01,887
- They were different types
of people, the artists were,
988
00:53:01,887 --> 00:53:05,182
but at the same time they
were in warm sympathy
989
00:53:05,182 --> 00:53:11,438
with the efforts of people who
were in trouble, and people. .
990
00:53:11,438 --> 00:53:14,774
various people to organize.
991
00:53:14,774 --> 00:53:17,652
- [Orson Welles] Most New Deal
art was quite unpolitical.
992
00:53:17,652 --> 00:53:20,697
However, some artists felt
that the political message
993
00:53:20,697 --> 00:53:22,365
was what counted.
994
00:53:22,365 --> 00:53:25,243
Artists like William
Gropper at the time tried
995
00:53:25,243 --> 00:53:28,038
to make a hero out of
the industrial worker.
996
00:53:28,038 --> 00:53:31,750
Unlike the FSA photographers
who showed a genuine concern
997
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:34,586
for the individual,
Gropper's workers seemed
998
00:53:34,586 --> 00:53:37,214
to have no individual
identity at all.
999
00:53:38,548 --> 00:53:39,883
There's a vast difference
1000
00:53:39,883 --> 00:53:44,095
between the social documentaries
of the FSA photographers,
1001
00:53:44,095 --> 00:53:48,433
and the proletarian realism
of some WPA painting.
1002
00:53:48,433 --> 00:53:54,397
♪ (upbeat banjo music)
1003
00:53:54,397 --> 00:53:57,400
Social and political
commitment did not necessarily
1004
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,653
mean superhuman workers.
1005
00:53:59,653 --> 00:54:02,155
Much more subtle is
Ben Shahn's portrayal
1006
00:54:02,155 --> 00:54:05,158
of textile workers in
a large mural painted
1007
00:54:05,158 --> 00:54:08,954
for a town now called
Roosevelt, New Jersey.
1008
00:54:08,954 --> 00:54:15,543
♪ (upbeat banjo music)
1009
00:54:15,543 --> 00:54:18,421
The town built in the 1930s
was a New Deal experiment
1010
00:54:18,421 --> 00:54:20,966
in urban planning,
with workplace
1011
00:54:20,966 --> 00:54:22,759
and housing located together.
1012
00:54:22,759 --> 00:54:24,427
Shahn's mural is an argument
1013
00:54:24,427 --> 00:54:27,264
for the ideal printed
on the poster.
1014
00:54:27,264 --> 00:54:29,683
The principle of American labor,
1015
00:54:29,683 --> 00:54:33,436
the right of every
man and woman to work.
1016
00:54:33,436 --> 00:54:36,314
♪
1017
00:54:36,314 --> 00:54:38,483
- And many theorists
were communist.
1018
00:54:38,483 --> 00:54:41,444
I was a communist
at that point. .
1019
00:54:41,945 --> 00:54:44,447
and the central committee
1020
00:54:44,447 --> 00:54:47,909
of the Communist Party
was breaking its neck
1021
00:54:47,909 --> 00:54:50,412
to dominate what was going on,
1022
00:54:50,412 --> 00:54:53,623
and they were giving out orders
which were happily ignored
1023
00:54:53,623 --> 00:54:55,417
because artists
don't take orders.
1024
00:54:55,417 --> 00:54:56,960
♪
1025
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,296
- [Orson Welles] Bernada
Bryson Shahn was an editor
1026
00:54:59,296 --> 00:55:01,423
of "Art Front" magazine.
1027
00:55:01,423 --> 00:55:04,634
It acted as a forum for the
radical artists of the time.
1028
00:55:04,634 --> 00:55:07,137
In spite of quarrels
with the Communist Party,
1029
00:55:07,137 --> 00:55:11,308
many artists remained either
members or close sympathizers.
1030
00:55:11,308 --> 00:55:13,768
Outside their work, they
submitted to the frequent shifts
1031
00:55:13,768 --> 00:55:17,314
of the Moscow Party Line, and
supported the party's campaigns
1032
00:55:17,314 --> 00:55:20,150
against more independent
artists like Diego Rivera.
1033
00:55:20,150 --> 00:55:26,072
- The tragedy of Rivera was
that he wanted to be accepted.
1034
00:55:26,072 --> 00:55:28,533
The dream of his life was
to be thoroughly accepted
1035
00:55:28,533 --> 00:55:30,285
by the Communist Party,
1036
00:55:30,285 --> 00:55:33,163
but he was natively
intransigent.
1037
00:55:33,163 --> 00:55:37,083
He couldn't be controlled,
and they hated him. .
1038
00:55:37,083 --> 00:55:40,503
and so anybody who
worked with him,
1039
00:55:40,503 --> 00:55:46,384
including Ben, became a target
for their disapproval, and. .
1040
00:55:46,384 --> 00:55:51,181
they constantly
excoriated poor Rivera,
1041
00:55:51,181 --> 00:55:54,184
who constantly sought
to be accepted by them.
1042
00:55:54,184 --> 00:55:59,606
- I attended that famed
meeting in a thronged hall,
1043
00:55:59,606 --> 00:56:04,110
where Diego Rivera began. .
1044
00:56:04,110 --> 00:56:07,405
his speech, which was
1045
00:56:07,405 --> 00:56:10,075
translated by Luis Lazarich,
1046
00:56:10,075 --> 00:56:13,078
a well-known lithographer. .
1047
00:56:13,078 --> 00:56:18,625
and his translation continued
for about 15 or 20 minutes
1048
00:56:18,625 --> 00:56:21,378
and then he threw his
hands up in disgust
1049
00:56:21,378 --> 00:56:24,422
and an unwillingness to continue
1050
00:56:24,422 --> 00:56:28,134
with what he called
the bourgeois notions
1051
00:56:28,134 --> 00:56:32,222
that Diego Rivera
was introducing
1052
00:56:32,222 --> 00:56:35,642
to the radical
New York audience,
1053
00:56:35,642 --> 00:56:39,896
which were members of
the John Reed Club,
1054
00:56:39,896 --> 00:56:43,983
and people began shouting
and pushing and shoving,
1055
00:56:43,983 --> 00:56:47,070
and there were characters
who I got to know later,
1056
00:56:47,070 --> 00:56:50,824
such as Jacob Burck who was a
cartoonist for the Sun Times,
1057
00:56:50,824 --> 00:56:54,828
who stood up in a corner
and denounced Diego Rivera
1058
00:56:54,828 --> 00:56:57,789
for every utterance he made,
1059
00:56:57,789 --> 00:56:59,833
and principally it was based,
1060
00:56:59,833 --> 00:57:02,168
it seemed to be, on the
fact that he chose to speak
1061
00:57:02,168 --> 00:57:06,923
in French, bourgeois French,
instead of proletarian Spanish.
1062
00:57:06,923 --> 00:57:12,929
It was just before the
1936 insurrection in Spain,
1063
00:57:12,929 --> 00:57:17,434
of course, and that kind
of fired up tempers.
1064
00:57:17,434 --> 00:57:20,437
- [Orson Welles] It was not so
much doctrinaire party communism
1065
00:57:20,437 --> 00:57:23,273
but an emotional solidarity
with the oppressed
1066
00:57:23,273 --> 00:57:26,109
that moved people to join
the Abraham Lincoln Brigade
1067
00:57:26,109 --> 00:57:27,402
and fight in Spain.
1068
00:57:27,402 --> 00:57:30,196
"Communism is 20th
Century Americanism. "
1069
00:57:30,196 --> 00:57:32,615
This inscription
graced the halls
1070
00:57:32,615 --> 00:57:34,868
of the American Communist
Party headquarters.
1071
00:57:34,868 --> 00:57:39,289
- The Communist Party was a
respectable party at the time. .
1072
00:57:39,289 --> 00:57:42,292
and it's a difficult
question now.
1073
00:57:42,292 --> 00:57:43,960
You say, "Were you a communist?"
1074
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:48,131
Of course, everybody who
had any grain of knowledge
1075
00:57:48,131 --> 00:57:50,467
of what was going
on was a communist.
1076
00:57:50,467 --> 00:57:52,969
The only trouble is. .
1077
00:57:53,386 --> 00:57:57,432
the climate of the word,
the connotation of the word
1078
00:57:57,432 --> 00:57:59,809
was something quite
different now.
1079
00:57:59,809 --> 00:58:03,313
- There was a law. .
1080
00:58:03,855 --> 00:58:07,650
it was mandatory that
when people were hired
1081
00:58:07,650 --> 00:58:13,740
on these projects, there
was to be no questioning
1082
00:58:13,740 --> 00:58:17,327
of their political affiliation.
1083
00:58:17,327 --> 00:58:21,039
The republicans insisted
on that provision
1084
00:58:21,039 --> 00:58:23,541
because they were afraid
that they would be left out.
1085
00:58:23,541 --> 00:58:25,793
- [Orson Welles] Paradoxically,
there were many on the left
1086
00:58:25,793 --> 00:58:28,963
who had moral difficulties
with joining projects sponsored
1087
00:58:28,963 --> 00:58:31,132
by the government and
designed, perhaps,
1088
00:58:31,132 --> 00:58:34,010
to co-opt radicals into
the reformist camp.
1089
00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:37,555
One such critic was the
Writers' Project nature editor,
1090
00:58:37,555 --> 00:58:39,307
the poet Kenneth Rexroth.
1091
00:58:39,307 --> 00:58:41,184
- Taking money, I mean,
1092
00:58:41,184 --> 00:58:46,189
for the left to take money
from the bourgeois state,
1093
00:58:46,189 --> 00:58:49,108
St. Paul has a phrase for this.
1094
00:58:49,108 --> 00:58:53,029
It's called, "Making friends
out of the mammon of iniquity. "
1095
00:58:53,029 --> 00:58:57,242
- Pigeons like men are
easily tamed by food.
1096
00:58:57,242 --> 00:58:59,577
If you give a hungry
man a job like that,
1097
00:58:59,577 --> 00:59:02,372
he's going to be
less discontent. .
1098
00:59:02,372 --> 00:59:04,749
and it wasn't exactly
an evil sort of thing,
1099
00:59:04,749 --> 00:59:06,960
but a humanitarian
sort of thing.
1100
00:59:08,378 --> 00:59:11,464
- [Orson Welles] While
conservative criticism mounted,
1101
00:59:11,464 --> 00:59:14,050
artists and writers
demonstrated for the right
1102
00:59:14,050 --> 00:59:18,221
to continue to produce
politically partisan art.
1103
00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:19,931
These pressures from inside
1104
00:59:19,931 --> 00:59:22,392
and outside presented
great difficulties
1105
00:59:22,392 --> 00:59:25,645
for the project administrators.
1106
00:59:26,312 --> 00:59:28,648
A diplomatic wizard
of sorts maneuvering
1107
00:59:28,648 --> 00:59:31,609
on two fronts was Henry Alsberg,
1108
00:59:31,609 --> 00:59:34,862
the director of the
Writers' Project.
1109
00:59:34,862 --> 00:59:38,575
- The head of it was the
man who got Emma Goldman
1110
00:59:38,575 --> 00:59:40,952
and Alexander Berkman
out of Russia,
1111
00:59:40,952 --> 00:59:44,998
Henry Alsberg, who was
1112
00:59:44,998 --> 00:59:50,336
old time Pre-War I. .
liberal anarchist.
1113
00:59:50,336 --> 00:59:52,589
So that in this period
1114
00:59:52,589 --> 00:59:55,758
of the attempted
Bolshevization of America,
1115
00:59:55,758 --> 00:59:58,011
he was a kind of anomaly.
1116
00:59:58,011 --> 00:59:59,137
- [Orson Welles] In order
to get his writers
1117
00:59:59,137 --> 01:00:03,141
to abandon fashionable
proletarian realist styles,
1118
01:00:03,141 --> 01:00:06,644
Alsberg prescribed
exposure to reality.
1119
01:00:06,644 --> 01:00:08,438
One writer who was
sent from Manhattan
1120
01:00:08,438 --> 01:00:10,940
to explore Staten Island
for the Writers' Project
1121
01:00:10,940 --> 01:00:13,276
was the poet, Harry Roskolenko.
1122
01:00:13,276 --> 01:00:17,322
- When I worked for the
Writers' Project of the WPA,
1123
01:00:17,322 --> 01:00:20,950
I spent about three months
traveling all over the place
1124
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:22,619
just to get some data,
1125
01:00:22,619 --> 01:00:25,246
some background
for the guide book,
1126
01:00:25,246 --> 01:00:27,624
the New York State Guidebook.
1127
01:00:27,624 --> 01:00:29,584
- [Orson Welles] Roskolenko
was a political activist
1128
01:00:29,584 --> 01:00:30,627
at the time.
1129
01:00:30,627 --> 01:00:32,337
Like many others,
he was convinced
1130
01:00:32,337 --> 01:00:35,798
that a revolution was
just around the corner.
1131
01:00:35,798 --> 01:00:37,300
- I think I was
sailing from Hamburg
1132
01:00:37,300 --> 01:00:40,637
to New York then, 1926. .
1133
01:00:40,637 --> 01:00:43,181
and we got wireless reports
about the Paterson Strike,
1134
01:00:43,181 --> 01:00:44,807
and the amount of
violence there.
1135
01:00:44,807 --> 01:00:46,267
Of course, like all sailors,
1136
01:00:46,267 --> 01:00:49,312
you're always thinking
of revolution,
1137
01:00:49,312 --> 01:00:51,648
revolutionary terms, uprising.
1138
01:00:51,648 --> 01:00:54,692
We were very radicalized. .
and we thought there
1139
01:00:54,692 --> 01:00:58,071
would be a revolution
in the southeast,
1140
01:00:58,071 --> 01:01:00,698
starting in New Jersey
and just swinging right
through the East.
1141
01:01:00,698 --> 01:01:02,867
- [Orson Welles] Little of
this revolutionary fervor
1142
01:01:02,867 --> 01:01:05,161
found its way into
the fact-filled report
1143
01:01:05,161 --> 01:01:07,830
on a home for old sailors
Roskolenko prepared.
1144
01:01:07,830 --> 01:01:09,415
- Now, these are
actually the notes
1145
01:01:09,415 --> 01:01:13,836
that I sent in. . in 1936.
1146
01:01:15,046 --> 01:01:18,174
Sailors' Snug Harbor, Richmond
Terrace between Tyson Street
1147
01:01:18,174 --> 01:01:22,011
and Kissell Avenue. . a
home for retired seamen.
1148
01:01:22,011 --> 01:01:25,640
"Here the mariners spend
their declining days provided
1149
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,769
with everything from food and
shelter to tobacco and movies.
1150
01:01:29,769 --> 01:01:32,480
To be admitted, a
mariner must be 65,
1151
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,733
an American citizen, and
prove that he has been at sea
1152
01:01:35,733 --> 01:01:37,527
for at least five years.
1153
01:01:37,527 --> 01:01:39,445
- [Orson Welles] But equally,
often the radical writers
1154
01:01:39,445 --> 01:01:42,407
did sneak their political
persuasions into the guidebooks,
1155
01:01:42,407 --> 01:01:45,451
and for the project
administrator,
that led to trouble.
1156
01:01:45,451 --> 01:01:48,246
- You know about what
happened in Massachusetts;
1157
01:01:48,246 --> 01:01:52,750
there was a great
to-do there when. .
1158
01:01:53,710 --> 01:01:59,215
a reporter discovered that
many more lines were devoted
1159
01:01:59,215 --> 01:02:01,467
to the Sacco and Vanzetti
case than were devoted
1160
01:02:01,467 --> 01:02:03,469
to the Boston Tea Party,
1161
01:02:03,469 --> 01:02:05,221
twice as many lines. .
1162
01:02:05,221 --> 01:02:08,266
and as a result of that,
1163
01:02:08,266 --> 01:02:11,519
the governor of
the state, Hurley,
1164
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:13,896
who had written a letter
saying how happy he was
1165
01:02:13,896 --> 01:02:18,276
that this book was being
published about Massachusetts. .
1166
01:02:18,276 --> 01:02:21,279
changed his mind and
began to attack the book,
1167
01:02:21,279 --> 01:02:25,658
and attack the project, and
demanding an investigation,
1168
01:02:25,658 --> 01:02:28,327
a congressional
investigation and whatnot.
1169
01:02:28,327 --> 01:02:30,496
And a former
governor suggested
1170
01:02:30,496 --> 01:02:33,416
that all the Massachusetts
guidebooks be placed
1171
01:02:33,416 --> 01:02:36,711
in the common and burned. .
1172
01:02:36,711 --> 01:02:41,466
and certain libraries
refused to carry the book
1173
01:02:41,466 --> 01:02:45,845
and there was a great
noise made about it.
1174
01:02:45,845 --> 01:02:47,930
♪ (upbeat piano music)
1175
01:02:47,930 --> 01:02:50,308
- [Orson Welles] It was the
unabashed political tendency
1176
01:02:50,308 --> 01:02:52,602
in the seemingly
most innocent work
1177
01:02:52,602 --> 01:02:55,271
that most annoyed conservatives.
1178
01:02:55,271 --> 01:02:57,273
The children's theatre
is a good case in point.
1179
01:02:57,273 --> 01:02:59,150
Traveling all over the country,
1180
01:02:59,150 --> 01:03:02,278
groups of actors brought theatre
to millions of young people,
1181
01:03:02,278 --> 01:03:05,948
most of whom didn't even
know what a stage show was.
1182
01:03:05,948 --> 01:03:10,161
- We had trucks where
the side came down
1183
01:03:10,161 --> 01:03:11,954
and became a platform.
1184
01:03:11,954 --> 01:03:16,834
The top canvas rolled down
and became dressing rooms
1185
01:03:16,834 --> 01:03:18,127
on either side.
1186
01:03:18,127 --> 01:03:20,296
You carried your own
generator, and you would play
1187
01:03:20,296 --> 01:03:23,299
for 25,000 people
in different parts,
1188
01:03:23,299 --> 01:03:26,803
so it was a wonderful
going-to-the-people theatre.
1189
01:03:26,803 --> 01:03:28,429
♪ (upbeat piano music)
1190
01:03:28,429 --> 01:03:31,724
- [Orson Welles] Although
children had to be and
were entertained,
1191
01:03:31,724 --> 01:03:33,726
to the actors and
directors, children
1192
01:03:33,726 --> 01:03:36,145
were the revolutionaries
of the future.
1193
01:03:36,145 --> 01:03:38,147
The "Revolt of the Beavers. . "
1194
01:03:38,147 --> 01:03:40,441
a delightful play and the
most successful production
1195
01:03:40,441 --> 01:03:41,651
of the Children's Theatre,
1196
01:03:41,651 --> 01:03:44,570
illustrates this attitude.
1197
01:03:44,570 --> 01:03:48,866
The play showed class
structures in beaver society,
1198
01:03:48,866 --> 01:03:54,205
with its robber-barren beavers
protected by police beavers.
1199
01:03:54,205 --> 01:03:58,459
- I played the Gestapo
kind of beaver.
1200
01:03:58,459 --> 01:04:00,127
I was tough.
1201
01:04:00,127 --> 01:04:02,588
We had a team called
"Rough, Tough and Gruff. "
1202
01:04:02,588 --> 01:04:04,757
We were all made
up like beavers, and. .
1203
01:04:04,757 --> 01:04:06,843
and it was very exciting.
I mean, that's the kind
1204
01:04:06,843 --> 01:04:09,011
of acting that I
would love to do today.
1205
01:04:09,011 --> 01:04:11,973
♪ (upbeat piano music)
1206
01:04:11,973 --> 01:04:13,850
- [Orson Welles] The poor
exploited worker beavers
1207
01:04:13,850 --> 01:04:16,853
are busy planning a revolution
to overthrow a government
1208
01:04:16,853 --> 01:04:19,188
which only represents
rich beavers.
1209
01:04:19,188 --> 01:04:22,108
Of course, the
revolution succeeds.
1210
01:04:22,108 --> 01:04:26,696
♪ (upbeat piano music)
1211
01:04:26,696 --> 01:04:30,324
- We were accused
of being communists. .
1212
01:04:30,324 --> 01:04:32,702
a communist play,
because the beavers
1213
01:04:32,702 --> 01:04:36,372
were stripping the
bark off the trees.
1214
01:04:36,372 --> 01:04:41,878
And the Boy Scout troop
248 from the Bronx. .
1215
01:04:41,878 --> 01:04:44,797
were supposed to protest
this terrible thing
1216
01:04:44,797 --> 01:04:47,341
that was going on, and
the kids loved the play.
1217
01:04:47,341 --> 01:04:49,510
- [Orson Welles] More serious
political repercussions came
1218
01:04:49,510 --> 01:04:52,138
with the last black production
of the Federal Theatre:
1219
01:04:52,138 --> 01:04:55,141
a play called "Haiti,"
directed by Maurice Clark.
1220
01:04:55,141 --> 01:04:59,312
- This play was
about the struggle. .
1221
01:04:59,312 --> 01:05:04,901
of a Negro people in Haiti,
against an invasion. .
1222
01:05:04,901 --> 01:05:06,777
of Napoleon's army.
1223
01:05:06,777 --> 01:05:10,364
The original script called
for a French drawing room,
1224
01:05:10,364 --> 01:05:13,951
and I changed all that
to a big central section
1225
01:05:13,951 --> 01:05:16,454
of one of these old
plantation homes,
1226
01:05:16,454 --> 01:05:18,748
with a winding staircase.
1227
01:05:18,748 --> 01:05:24,795
I got some drummers from the
Congo, and finally we cast it
1228
01:05:24,795 --> 01:05:28,049
with some of the
leading black actors,
1229
01:05:28,049 --> 01:05:31,260
like Canada Lee,
1230
01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:33,262
and Rex Ingram, and some
1231
01:05:33,262 --> 01:05:37,600
of the prominent people
in the Negro Theatre.
1232
01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:40,561
It was about equally divided,
1233
01:05:40,561 --> 01:05:43,814
the white cast and
the black cast. .
1234
01:05:44,398 --> 01:05:47,109
and this is as
exciting and important
1235
01:05:47,109 --> 01:05:48,653
to me as the play itself,
1236
01:05:48,653 --> 01:05:52,281
the whole production itself was
what happened to these actors.
1237
01:05:53,157 --> 01:05:55,451
- [Orson Welles] "Haiti" marked
one of the first times
1238
01:05:55,451 --> 01:05:58,287
in the history of the
American professional theatre
1239
01:05:58,287 --> 01:06:00,414
that black and white
actors worked together
1240
01:06:00,414 --> 01:06:02,458
on the same stage.
1241
01:06:02,458 --> 01:06:05,962
- A whole kind of different
relationship started developing.
1242
01:06:05,962 --> 01:06:08,798
They were laughing together,
playing a piano. .
1243
01:06:08,798 --> 01:06:10,967
and instead of just
a work relationship,
1244
01:06:10,967 --> 01:06:12,969
a social relationship developed.
1245
01:06:12,969 --> 01:06:16,472
- [Orson Welles] "WPA Theatre
upheld Negro dating here.
1246
01:06:16,472 --> 01:06:20,476
Project heads encourage race
mixing as part of communism. "
1247
01:06:20,476 --> 01:06:23,312
These headlines played
on racist sentiments
1248
01:06:23,312 --> 01:06:27,066
and used them as a basis
for political attack.
1249
01:06:27,775 --> 01:06:29,568
The one division of
the Federal Theatre
1250
01:06:29,568 --> 01:06:32,113
which, more than any other,
attracted left wing actors
1251
01:06:32,113 --> 01:06:35,408
and directors was the
next to come under fire:
1252
01:06:35,408 --> 01:06:37,535
The Living Newspaper.
1253
01:06:37,535 --> 01:06:42,915
- The great innovation was
The Living Newspaper.
1254
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,503
We were full of
tricks and wheezes,
1255
01:06:47,503 --> 01:06:49,380
but in fact, nothing
that we did
1256
01:06:49,380 --> 01:06:55,386
was theatrically particularly
revolutionary in its essence.
1257
01:06:55,386 --> 01:06:58,681
The Living Newspaper
was a whole new idea.
1258
01:06:58,681 --> 01:07:03,352
It was the notion of
using the news of the day.
1259
01:07:03,352 --> 01:07:07,606
It was sort of a magazine
technique for telling a story.
1260
01:07:07,606 --> 01:07:12,194
The first one they
did was Ethiopia.
1261
01:07:12,194 --> 01:07:15,364
That ended badly.
There were protests,
1262
01:07:15,364 --> 01:07:20,411
and the state department
actually demanded certain
changes be made.
1263
01:07:20,411 --> 01:07:24,582
- There was undoubtedly
congressional pressure against
1264
01:07:24,582 --> 01:07:28,044
what was seen as extreme
left-wing influence
1265
01:07:28,044 --> 01:07:29,837
in the Federal Theatre,
1266
01:07:29,837 --> 01:07:33,716
or at least in some of
the Federal Theatre, but. .
1267
01:07:33,716 --> 01:07:37,053
particularly perhaps in
The Living Newspaper.
1268
01:07:37,053 --> 01:07:38,888
- [Orson Welles] After the
first show was cancelled,
1269
01:07:38,888 --> 01:07:41,974
Joseph Losey, together
with two others, took over.
1270
01:07:41,974 --> 01:07:43,893
In a new show, they
refused to compromise
1271
01:07:43,893 --> 01:07:47,354
The Living Newspaper's
stark radicalism.
1272
01:07:47,354 --> 01:07:50,191
After a political showdown
with Federal Theatre director
1273
01:07:50,191 --> 01:07:53,652
Hallie Flanagan, Losey opened
a great success on Broadway.
1274
01:07:53,652 --> 01:07:56,447
The play was "Triple
A Plowed Under. "
1275
01:07:56,447 --> 01:07:58,407
♪ (drum music)
1276
01:07:58,407 --> 01:08:02,119
It dramatized the problems
of the farmers and workers.
1277
01:08:02,119 --> 01:08:04,872
The farmer gets a few
pennies for his milk,
1278
01:08:04,872 --> 01:08:06,749
while the worker pays
a high price for it.
1279
01:08:06,749 --> 01:08:09,460
The middleman gets rich.
1280
01:08:10,628 --> 01:08:14,215
Norman Lloyd, now a well-known
television actor and director,
1281
01:08:14,215 --> 01:08:18,010
regularly acted in
The Living Newspaper.
1282
01:08:18,010 --> 01:08:21,263
- The second play was
"Injunction Granted. "
1283
01:08:21,263 --> 01:08:23,516
It's interesting.
Losey directed that,
1284
01:08:23,516 --> 01:08:27,561
and Nicholas Ray, who
became a film director,
1285
01:08:27,561 --> 01:08:29,438
was the stage manager. .
1286
01:08:29,438 --> 01:08:31,982
and Virgil Thompson
did the music.
1287
01:08:31,982 --> 01:08:33,234
And this was a story
1288
01:08:33,234 --> 01:08:35,444
of the history of
labor in the courts.
1289
01:08:35,444 --> 01:08:39,448
- I was developing a form
which was towards circus,
1290
01:08:39,448 --> 01:08:43,619
toward vaudeville, using ballet
as well as actors, music,
1291
01:08:43,619 --> 01:08:46,372
mime and film,
1292
01:08:46,372 --> 01:08:49,834
influenced I suppose to
some extent by (mumbles),
1293
01:08:49,834 --> 01:08:53,796
and to some extent by
Brecht, and to some extent
1294
01:08:53,796 --> 01:08:57,174
by the Political Cabaret,
which I had already done.
1295
01:08:57,174 --> 01:08:59,802
- I played a clown in that.
It was all in pantomime,
1296
01:08:59,802 --> 01:09:02,138
commenting on the
stories that went along
1297
01:09:02,138 --> 01:09:05,599
with the various cases
which were acted out
1298
01:09:05,599 --> 01:09:08,310
in rather black and white terms,
1299
01:09:08,310 --> 01:09:11,647
but always with the
clown commenting. .
1300
01:09:11,647 --> 01:09:14,650
both to illuminate
things for the audience,
1301
01:09:14,650 --> 01:09:19,363
and hopefully for
humor, and so on.
1302
01:09:19,363 --> 01:09:22,867
- Again, the opening
was postponed,
1303
01:09:22,867 --> 01:09:24,910
postponed, never quite banned,
1304
01:09:24,910 --> 01:09:28,080
and finally, again
it came to a showdown,
1305
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,667
and again we won,
and again it opened.
1306
01:09:31,667 --> 01:09:36,255
But, it didn't have much
chance and the spirit was gone,
1307
01:09:36,255 --> 01:09:40,009
and. . it didn't do as
well as the other,
1308
01:09:40,009 --> 01:09:44,054
although it was more
interesting, I think, by far.
1309
01:09:44,054 --> 01:09:47,474
And, it closed.
1310
01:09:47,474 --> 01:09:51,228
Then, I presented
various other projects,
1311
01:09:51,228 --> 01:09:53,647
all of them were turned
down, so I resigned.
1312
01:09:53,647 --> 01:09:55,357
It was as simple as that.
1313
01:09:55,357 --> 01:09:56,525
♪ (upbeat guitar music)
1314
01:09:56,525 --> 01:09:58,277
- [Orson Welles] The closing
of The Living Newspaper
1315
01:09:58,277 --> 01:10:00,362
was the beginning of the end.
1316
01:10:00,362 --> 01:10:02,865
Soon John Houseman and
myself came under attack.
1317
01:10:02,865 --> 01:10:04,533
We'd moved from
Harlem to Broadway
1318
01:10:04,533 --> 01:10:07,870
and had formed a new
group called Project 891.
1319
01:10:07,870 --> 01:10:12,041
- The actors we were
given were in one sense,
1320
01:10:12,041 --> 01:10:13,584
sort of the dregs
of the project.
1321
01:10:13,584 --> 01:10:15,920
All the other serious
projects had already
1322
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:18,380
snatched up all the. .
1323
01:10:19,381 --> 01:10:24,386
apparently, and snatched
up all the conventionally
good actors.
1324
01:10:24,386 --> 01:10:28,807
But, Orson had a passion
for low comedians
1325
01:10:28,807 --> 01:10:32,061
and eccentric characters.
So in the end, what we got
1326
01:10:32,061 --> 01:10:35,231
was a very interesting
collection of actors,
1327
01:10:35,231 --> 01:10:37,900
and the first show we
did was "Horse Eats Hat. "
1328
01:10:37,900 --> 01:10:41,153
♪ (nursery music)
1329
01:10:41,153 --> 01:10:45,157
- [Orson Welles] This project
produced much controversy. .
1330
01:10:45,157 --> 01:10:47,701
and spelled perhaps the end
1331
01:10:47,701 --> 01:10:49,328
of what could've been
a national theatre
1332
01:10:49,328 --> 01:10:51,330
in the United States.
1333
01:10:51,330 --> 01:10:57,920
♪ (nursery music)
1334
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:03,092
- Our next venture was, again,
not a classical venture at all,
1335
01:11:03,092 --> 01:11:05,636
but something that
had been brought to us
1336
01:11:05,636 --> 01:11:10,432
and we'd heard it, and
fallen in love with it,
1337
01:11:10,432 --> 01:11:11,976
and decided we wanted to do it,
1338
01:11:11,976 --> 01:11:16,105
and that was a labor opera or
whatever you want to call it,
1339
01:11:16,105 --> 01:11:19,692
by Marc Blitzstein called
"The Cradle Will Rock. "
1340
01:11:19,692 --> 01:11:22,695
- [Orson] Marc Blitzstein,
an admirer of Brecht,
1341
01:11:22,695 --> 01:11:26,365
wrote words and music
for this unique piece.
1342
01:11:26,365 --> 01:11:29,493
The play was cast with Will
Geer and Howard Da Silva.
1343
01:11:29,493 --> 01:11:31,537
- Larry is the organizer,
1344
01:11:31,537 --> 01:11:34,623
the labor organizer,
who's been pulled in
1345
01:11:34,623 --> 01:11:38,210
with the prostitutes and
with street people and so on
1346
01:11:38,210 --> 01:11:40,462
in a cleanup of the town,
1347
01:11:40,462 --> 01:11:43,465
along with the powers that be,
1348
01:11:43,465 --> 01:11:45,968
Mr. Mister and the rest. .
1349
01:11:45,968 --> 01:11:48,971
and who, when the
Moll, the whore,
1350
01:11:48,971 --> 01:11:50,472
asks him what he's
doing here, he says,
1351
01:11:50,472 --> 01:11:51,932
"Who, me?"
1352
01:11:51,932 --> 01:11:53,309
While he was pulled in he says,
1353
01:11:53,309 --> 01:11:55,644
"Who, me? Making a speech
and passing out leaflets.
1354
01:11:55,644 --> 01:11:57,813
The formal charges
are inciting to riot.
1355
01:11:57,813 --> 01:11:59,064
Ain't you ever seen my act?
1356
01:11:59,064 --> 01:12:00,524
While I'm creeping
along in the dark,
1357
01:12:00,524 --> 01:12:03,569
my eyes is crafty, my
pockets is bulging, I'm loaded,
1358
01:12:03,569 --> 01:12:07,114
armed to the teeth! .
with leaflets.
1359
01:12:07,114 --> 01:12:10,075
And am I quick on the draw!
I come up to you very slow,
1360
01:12:10,075 --> 01:12:14,580
very snaky, and with
one fell gesture. .
1361
01:12:14,997 --> 01:12:16,415
I tug a leaf in your hand.
1362
01:12:16,415 --> 01:12:19,001
And one, two, three,
there's a riot.
1363
01:12:19,001 --> 01:12:21,211
I'm the riot. I incited you. "
1364
01:12:21,211 --> 01:12:22,671
- I went to play the original,
1365
01:12:22,671 --> 01:12:25,007
my old part, which
I had rehearsed
1366
01:12:25,007 --> 01:12:26,842
with our repertoire
company at Mr. Mister,
1367
01:12:26,842 --> 01:12:30,387
which is John D. Rockefeller,
1368
01:12:30,387 --> 01:12:34,099
sort of combined with some
head of Republic Steel.
1369
01:12:34,099 --> 01:12:36,352
He is the owner of
this town, in which all
1370
01:12:36,352 --> 01:12:38,270
of the people are
prostitutes to him;
1371
01:12:38,270 --> 01:12:41,273
the owner of the paper,
the doctors and the lawyers,
1372
01:12:41,273 --> 01:12:43,442
and they are all prostitutes,
just as this little girl
1373
01:12:43,442 --> 01:12:44,860
on the street corner is.
1374
01:12:44,860 --> 01:12:47,696
The play is very exciting, and
has wonderful music, really.
1375
01:12:47,696 --> 01:12:49,406
Best music Marc
Blitzstein wrote.
1376
01:12:49,406 --> 01:12:52,034
- [actor] Cora, we're artists!
1377
01:12:52,034 --> 01:12:56,205
- ♪ (singing) And we love
1378
01:12:56,205 --> 01:12:57,873
♪ Art for art's sake
1379
01:12:57,873 --> 01:12:59,541
♪ It's smart, for art's sake
1380
01:12:59,541 --> 01:13:00,876
♪ To part, for art's sake
1381
01:13:00,876 --> 01:13:02,461
♪ With your heart,
for art's sake
1382
01:13:02,461 --> 01:13:04,296
♪ And your mind,
for art's sake
1383
01:13:04,296 --> 01:13:05,923
♪ Be blind for art's sake
1384
01:13:05,923 --> 01:13:07,549
♪ And deaf for art's sake
1385
01:13:07,549 --> 01:13:09,134
♪ And dumb for art's sake
1386
01:13:09,134 --> 01:13:10,719
♪ Until for art's sake
1387
01:13:10,719 --> 01:13:12,179
♪ They kill for art's sake
1388
01:13:12,179 --> 01:13:14,056
♪ All the art for art's sake!
1389
01:13:14,056 --> 01:13:17,101
- It rehearsed beautifully
and we were all madly
1390
01:13:17,101 --> 01:13:19,144
in love with what
we were doing. .
1391
01:13:19,144 --> 01:13:23,816
Then, suddenly, there were
a great many steel strikes
1392
01:13:23,816 --> 01:13:26,235
all over the country,
where some of which ended
1393
01:13:26,235 --> 01:13:27,569
in considerable violence.
1394
01:13:27,569 --> 01:13:29,822
There were other strikes,
but this happened to be
1395
01:13:29,822 --> 01:13:33,075
about steel, so that this
was particularly dangerous,
1396
01:13:33,075 --> 01:13:35,786
and the federal government,
1397
01:13:35,786 --> 01:13:39,915
or rather, the WPA
Administration,
1398
01:13:39,915 --> 01:13:42,418
who had to go back to Congress
1399
01:13:42,418 --> 01:13:45,963
that summer and get
new appropriations,
1400
01:13:45,963 --> 01:13:49,216
because originally they'd
only had it for two years,
1401
01:13:49,216 --> 01:13:51,301
and those two years
were nearly up.
1402
01:13:51,301 --> 01:13:53,470
So, since they had
to go to Congress,
1403
01:13:53,470 --> 01:13:56,932
they were very frightened
of producing anything
1404
01:13:56,932 --> 01:13:59,476
that would create
any kind of scandal
1405
01:13:59,476 --> 01:14:01,603
or any kind of backlash.
1406
01:14:01,603 --> 01:14:03,647
- The government
clamped down on it,
1407
01:14:03,647 --> 01:14:05,941
and refused to have it open,
1408
01:14:05,941 --> 01:14:08,068
and Howard Da Silva
and Hiram Sherman
1409
01:14:08,068 --> 01:14:09,945
and the rest of us had our wigs
1410
01:14:09,945 --> 01:14:11,572
and costumes snatched
away from us.
1411
01:14:11,572 --> 01:14:12,865
The sets were removed,
1412
01:14:12,865 --> 01:14:15,284
the theatre was padlocked
and the audience itself,
1413
01:14:15,284 --> 01:14:18,120
who was there for a preview,
was thrown out into the streets
1414
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:19,580
and began milling around.
1415
01:14:19,580 --> 01:14:21,999
John Houseman and some
very enterprising people,
1416
01:14:21,999 --> 01:14:25,878
like Archibald MacLeish,
went out to get a theatre,
1417
01:14:25,878 --> 01:14:27,379
and we went out in front,
1418
01:14:27,379 --> 01:14:30,299
and entertained the audience
with little snatches of songs,
1419
01:14:30,299 --> 01:14:33,218
and everything I ever knew
from Walt Whitman on through,
1420
01:14:33,218 --> 01:14:36,972
until they came by in a fire
truck, and Marc Blitzstein
1421
01:14:36,972 --> 01:14:39,683
had a piano, and the
fire people were helping
1422
01:14:39,683 --> 01:14:43,312
and they announced they had
a theatre 20 blocks away,
1423
01:14:43,312 --> 01:14:46,982
up by the Central Park. .
1424
01:14:46,982 --> 01:14:49,401
and we moved, and asked the
audience to move with us.
1425
01:14:49,401 --> 01:14:54,656
They walked with us from
38th Street to 57th Street.
1426
01:14:54,656 --> 01:14:58,035
- I think the audacity of
the whole company of Will
1427
01:14:58,035 --> 01:15:00,996
and I having led the whole
company with all of us up
1428
01:15:00,996 --> 01:15:03,373
the 6th Avenue and having
produced it, despite the fact
1429
01:15:03,373 --> 01:15:06,376
that the Federal Theatre and
Congress had locked us out
1430
01:15:06,376 --> 01:15:07,961
and closed down the theater,
1431
01:15:07,961 --> 01:15:09,755
was in itself such
an audacious thing.
1432
01:15:09,755 --> 01:15:11,673
We probably pulled
enough of an audience
1433
01:15:11,673 --> 01:15:13,926
with us along 6th Avenue
who were wondering
1434
01:15:13,926 --> 01:15:16,220
where the hell this audience
was walking to Uptown?
1435
01:15:16,220 --> 01:15:19,515
- ♪ (singer) Oh the press, the
press, the freedom of the press
1436
01:15:19,515 --> 01:15:22,601
♪ They'll never take away
the freedom of the press
1437
01:15:22,601 --> 01:15:26,396
♪ We must be free to say
whatever's on our chest
1438
01:15:26,396 --> 01:15:29,691
♪ With a hey-diddle-dee
and a ho-nonney-no
1439
01:15:29,691 --> 01:15:33,737
♪ Or whichever side
will pay the best
1440
01:15:33,737 --> 01:15:36,823
- And on the stage Orson
Welles gave a speech,
1441
01:15:36,823 --> 01:15:38,700
Archibald MacLeish
made a nice speech,
1442
01:15:38,700 --> 01:15:40,994
our poet that's
still living today,
1443
01:15:40,994 --> 01:15:44,373
and John Houseman talked. .
1444
01:15:44,373 --> 01:15:47,251
And Marc came out, they wheeled
the piano out with the firemen,
1445
01:15:47,251 --> 01:15:49,294
and he sat down at the
piano and began to play it
1446
01:15:49,294 --> 01:15:51,296
as he did at auditions.
1447
01:15:51,296 --> 01:15:52,965
And as he got to
this first song,
1448
01:15:52,965 --> 01:15:54,633
the little girl,
a Catholic girl,
1449
01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:57,302
and quite reactionary
on most subjects,
1450
01:15:57,302 --> 01:15:59,972
got up suddenly in the
box and began to sing.
1451
01:15:59,972 --> 01:16:05,227
- ♪ (girl singing) Maybe
you wonder what it is
1452
01:16:05,227 --> 01:16:10,148
♪ Makes people good or bad
1453
01:16:10,148 --> 01:16:12,734
♪ Why some guy
1454
01:16:12,734 --> 01:16:17,322
♪ An ace without a doubt
1455
01:16:17,322 --> 01:16:22,077
♪ Turns out to be a bastard
1456
01:16:22,077 --> 01:16:29,084
♪ And the other way about
1457
01:16:29,084 --> 01:16:33,171
♪ I'll tell you what I feel
1458
01:16:33,171 --> 01:16:41,096
♪ It's just the nickel
under the heel
1459
01:16:41,096 --> 01:16:43,181
- And as we came to
each one of the parts,
1460
01:16:43,181 --> 01:16:45,100
the lawyers and the doctors,
1461
01:16:45,100 --> 01:16:47,519
Mr. Mister, Mrs. Mister,
1462
01:16:47,519 --> 01:16:49,396
Junior Mister, and all of them,
1463
01:16:49,396 --> 01:16:50,772
we all stood up
in whatever part
1464
01:16:50,772 --> 01:16:51,857
of the auditorium we were,
1465
01:16:51,857 --> 01:16:55,235
we followed the lead of this
little girl and sang our songs.
1466
01:16:55,235 --> 01:16:58,697
And it was a tremendous
success! A smash.
1467
01:16:58,697 --> 01:17:00,991
Everybody got up,
stood and cheered,
1468
01:17:00,991 --> 01:17:04,119
and so before the evening was
over, we'd raised enough money
1469
01:17:04,119 --> 01:17:06,121
to put it on in a
regular theatre.
1470
01:17:06,121 --> 01:17:10,792
We moved down the street to
The Playhouse on 48th Street,
1471
01:17:10,792 --> 01:17:13,712
and it went on for a long run,
with actors simply sitting
1472
01:17:13,712 --> 01:17:15,797
on the chairs,
without any scenery,
1473
01:17:15,797 --> 01:17:17,424
without any real costumes,
1474
01:17:17,424 --> 01:17:20,177
and singing along with Marc
Blitzstein on the piano.
1475
01:17:20,177 --> 01:17:23,513
- ♪ (singing) That's thunder,
that's lightning
1476
01:17:23,513 --> 01:17:25,766
♪ And it's going
to surround you
1477
01:17:25,766 --> 01:17:28,644
- [Orson Welles] The success
of "The Cradle Will Rock,"
1478
01:17:28,644 --> 01:17:33,357
despite the official
ban, brought down the
Federal Theatre.
1479
01:17:33,357 --> 01:17:35,400
Before the actors and
directors could even register
1480
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,987
their protest, conservatives
mounted such a heavy attack
1481
01:17:38,987 --> 01:17:42,324
on Washington that Roosevelt
was forced to appease them
1482
01:17:42,324 --> 01:17:43,700
with drastic measures.
1483
01:17:43,700 --> 01:17:45,994
- ♪ (singing) The
cradle will rock!
1484
01:17:45,994 --> 01:17:51,333
- What Roosevelt had done
was to decide that in order
1485
01:17:51,333 --> 01:17:54,002
to stop this red-baiting
attack against him,
1486
01:17:54,002 --> 01:17:58,715
he would allow the Federal
Theatre to be dissolved.
1487
01:17:58,715 --> 01:18:00,801
Of course, it gained nothing
because they went right
1488
01:18:00,801 --> 01:18:03,512
on to dissolve everything else.
1489
01:18:03,512 --> 01:18:06,306
This was the beginning
of a whole new history
1490
01:18:06,306 --> 01:18:07,933
in the United States.
1491
01:18:10,352 --> 01:18:12,187
- Well, you can
answer that can't you?
1492
01:18:12,187 --> 01:18:13,897
- [Orson Welles] Writers,
actors and artists alike
1493
01:18:13,897 --> 01:18:16,858
had poked fun at Martin
Dies and his committee.
1494
01:18:16,858 --> 01:18:18,944
Now his hour had come.
1495
01:18:18,944 --> 01:18:21,697
In hearings,
broadcast nationwide,
1496
01:18:21,697 --> 01:18:25,158
Dies' House on Un-American
Activities Committee
1497
01:18:25,158 --> 01:18:28,203
investigated hundreds of
artists and intellectuals,
1498
01:18:28,203 --> 01:18:31,289
branding them subversive
and Un-American.
1499
01:18:31,289 --> 01:18:36,378
- The only way that
we can defeat their
aims and purposes is
1500
01:18:36,378 --> 01:18:38,797
to expose them
before they strike.
1501
01:18:38,797 --> 01:18:44,386
- And in one stroke of the pen,
this whole thing was destroyed.
1502
01:18:45,387 --> 01:18:48,890
I went down to my
office, which was. .
1503
01:18:48,890 --> 01:18:51,435
down in the 20s,
1504
01:18:51,435 --> 01:18:55,063
about 20th and Broadway,
down in that area.
1505
01:18:55,063 --> 01:18:59,776
We had two floors of offices
there for the Federal Theatre.
1506
01:18:59,776 --> 01:19:03,905
I went to go up to my
office, and they. .
1507
01:19:03,905 --> 01:19:10,245
they had sent in workmen, with
hammers, to destroy our offices,
1508
01:19:10,245 --> 01:19:11,997
which were partitions built
1509
01:19:11,997 --> 01:19:15,959
in this large
loft-type building.
1510
01:19:16,918 --> 01:19:18,086
And believe it or not,
1511
01:19:18,086 --> 01:19:21,590
these men were taking joy
in what they were doing.
1512
01:19:21,590 --> 01:19:23,592
They were swinging their
axes and hammers
1513
01:19:23,592 --> 01:19:26,428
and they were not only
breaking up these partitions,
1514
01:19:26,428 --> 01:19:28,847
they were splintering them. .
1515
01:19:28,847 --> 01:19:33,310
and I found my desk under a
whole pile of broken boards,
1516
01:19:33,310 --> 01:19:37,773
and dug in there to get out
what records I could salvage.
1517
01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:39,816
And that's how the
Federal Theatre went.
1518
01:19:39,816 --> 01:19:42,319
- [Orson Welles] Attacks on
the project mounted daily.
1519
01:19:42,319 --> 01:19:44,863
The next concession hit
the Writers' Project.
1520
01:19:44,863 --> 01:19:46,239
Control was transferred
1521
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:49,117
to the individual states,
while responsibility
1522
01:19:49,117 --> 01:19:51,453
for publications
remained in Washington.
1523
01:19:51,453 --> 01:19:53,955
The doors were open
for censorship.
1524
01:19:53,955 --> 01:19:59,628
- We had. . one of our. .
best books was censored.
1525
01:19:59,628 --> 01:20:02,047
The Washington office absolutely
refused to publish it.
1526
01:20:02,047 --> 01:20:04,591
That was the history
of civil liberties
1527
01:20:04,591 --> 01:20:06,301
in the state of Illinois.
1528
01:20:06,301 --> 01:20:09,763
It was done under the
supervision of Marion Knoblauch
1529
01:20:09,763 --> 01:20:11,932
who's since then been a leader
1530
01:20:11,932 --> 01:20:16,228
in the Chicago Civil
Liberties Committee,
1531
01:20:16,228 --> 01:20:21,566
and finally it was published
by the Civil Liberties
1532
01:20:21,566 --> 01:20:26,404
Union with no mention whatever
of the Writers' Project,
1533
01:20:26,404 --> 01:20:28,990
all the work that was done
over a period of several years.
1534
01:20:28,990 --> 01:20:33,662
- All right, there's a
chapter on censorship. .
1535
01:20:35,664 --> 01:20:38,458
There's a chapter
on rights of aliens,
1536
01:20:38,458 --> 01:20:43,255
and that was a very sad chapter
during World War I and Illinois.
1537
01:20:43,255 --> 01:20:48,593
There's a chapter called "Rights
of Political Minorities. . "
1538
01:20:48,593 --> 01:20:52,514
and "The Rights of
Labor," and so forth.
1539
01:20:52,514 --> 01:20:55,183
"Rights of the Unemployed,"
or did I mention that before?
1540
01:20:55,183 --> 01:20:59,062
"Unconstitutional Police
Methods," you see,
these were all. .
1541
01:20:59,062 --> 01:21:01,523
and "Anti-semitism. "
1542
01:21:01,523 --> 01:21:05,902
- And it's a very factual
account! Nothing controversial.
1543
01:21:05,902 --> 01:21:09,406
They were just afraid
that their congressional
1544
01:21:09,406 --> 01:21:12,450
and journalistic critics
would descend on them,
1545
01:21:12,450 --> 01:21:13,869
and so they weren't
going to take a chance,
1546
01:21:13,869 --> 01:21:16,204
and they just said, "No, you're
not going to publish it. "
1547
01:21:16,204 --> 01:21:19,791
- So they sent two people
out from Washington,
1548
01:21:19,791 --> 01:21:24,212
investigators, and they
came to the project,
1549
01:21:24,212 --> 01:21:27,299
they interviewed almost
everybody but me,
1550
01:21:27,299 --> 01:21:29,134
and. .
1551
01:21:29,134 --> 01:21:34,306
then they did tell me
that it was a good book,
1552
01:21:34,306 --> 01:21:36,224
and they wanted it
to be published,
1553
01:21:36,224 --> 01:21:38,310
only there were a few
little places that needed
1554
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:40,228
to be toned down.
1555
01:21:40,228 --> 01:21:43,523
♪ (upbeat banjo music)
1556
01:21:43,523 --> 01:21:45,150
- [Orson Welles] In the
Federal Arts Project,
1557
01:21:45,150 --> 01:21:47,402
the most violent attacks
were those provoked
1558
01:21:47,402 --> 01:21:49,154
by these paintings
in Coit Tower
1559
01:21:49,154 --> 01:21:51,406
on San Francisco's
Telegraph Hill,
1560
01:21:51,406 --> 01:21:55,327
especially Bernard
Zakheim's mural, "Library. "
1561
01:21:55,327 --> 01:21:58,288
It shows a worker taking
a volume of Karl Marx down
1562
01:21:58,288 --> 01:22:00,582
from a bookshelf.
1563
01:22:00,582 --> 01:22:01,666
♪
1564
01:22:01,666 --> 01:22:04,669
But still, the artist
felt ready to fight.
1565
01:22:04,669 --> 01:22:06,713
In some of the newspaper
headlines he painted,
1566
01:22:06,713 --> 01:22:10,258
Zakheim commented on the attacks
leveled against his work.
1567
01:22:10,258 --> 01:22:15,472
♪ (upbeat banjo music)
1568
01:22:15,472 --> 01:22:17,724
Later, when the rumors spread
1569
01:22:17,724 --> 01:22:20,393
that the whole Arts
Project was to be axed,
1570
01:22:20,393 --> 01:22:23,229
intellectuals and
artists mounted protests,
1571
01:22:23,229 --> 01:22:26,191
but often in terms which
only gave more ammunition
1572
01:22:26,191 --> 01:22:28,526
to their conservative enemies.
1573
01:22:28,526 --> 01:22:31,154
- "As this issue of The
New Anvil goes to press,
1574
01:22:31,154 --> 01:22:32,447
the Federal Arts Project,
1575
01:22:32,447 --> 01:22:36,117
which has rendered invaluable
service in bringing culture
1576
01:22:36,117 --> 01:22:39,329
to the people are threatened
by the onslaught of Torries,
1577
01:22:39,329 --> 01:22:41,873
who would either abolish
these projects altogether
1578
01:22:41,873 --> 01:22:44,668
or seriously hamper
their effectiveness
1579
01:22:44,668 --> 01:22:48,421
by drastic curtailments and
strangling restrictions.
1580
01:22:48,421 --> 01:22:50,882
No section of the Works
Progress Administration
1581
01:22:50,882 --> 01:22:55,845
has justified its existence
more than the Cultural Projects.
1582
01:22:55,845 --> 01:22:59,057
The efforts to destroy them
remind one forcibly of the words
1583
01:22:59,057 --> 01:23:02,227
of a Nazi arbiter
of public taste:
1584
01:23:02,227 --> 01:23:05,355
When I'd hear the word
culture, I'd cock my rifle. "
1585
01:23:05,355 --> 01:23:07,816
♪ (upbeat guitar music)
1586
01:23:07,816 --> 01:23:10,193
- [Orson Welles] But it wasn't
only the political statements
1587
01:23:10,193 --> 01:23:14,155
by theater people,
artists and painters that
antagonized conservatives,
1588
01:23:14,155 --> 01:23:20,120
it was also the appeal to
reform of the FSA photographs.
1589
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:29,004
♪ (upbeat guitar music)
1590
01:23:29,004 --> 01:23:33,717
- It just came in that there
were concerted efforts to try
1591
01:23:33,717 --> 01:23:37,929
to get rid of this organization.
1592
01:23:37,929 --> 01:23:42,142
And it was called. .
1593
01:23:42,142 --> 01:23:45,103
and, I don't think it was
ever called "Communistic,"
1594
01:23:45,103 --> 01:23:48,857
but it was not
considered by some people
1595
01:23:48,857 --> 01:23:50,358
as being too desirable.
1596
01:23:50,358 --> 01:23:53,695
- At first we
weren't noticed much,
1597
01:23:53,695 --> 01:23:57,198
but. . congressmen,
1598
01:23:57,198 --> 01:24:00,535
being politicians,
always look for something
1599
01:24:00,535 --> 01:24:03,538
to criticize if they can,
1600
01:24:03,538 --> 01:24:07,667
and I happened to become
a controversial figure
1601
01:24:07,667 --> 01:24:10,545
for other reasons by that time,
1602
01:24:10,545 --> 01:24:15,550
and so we were pretty liberally
attacked by the politicians.
1603
01:24:15,550 --> 01:24:18,261
- [Orson Welles] For a while,
the FSA photographers managed
1604
01:24:18,261 --> 01:24:22,140
to stave off their critics by
making some pretty pictures. .
1605
01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:24,768
but it was of little
use in the long run.
1606
01:24:24,768 --> 01:24:26,519
Soon, the FSA photographers
1607
01:24:26,519 --> 01:24:30,398
were no longer documenting
daily life in America. Instead,
1608
01:24:30,398 --> 01:24:33,818
they would record the
life in the armed forces.
1609
01:24:33,818 --> 01:24:37,572
In 1940, the FSA photography
section was transferred
1610
01:24:37,572 --> 01:24:41,034
to OWI, the Office
of War Information.
1611
01:24:41,034 --> 01:24:43,787
All their pictures,
over 300,000,
1612
01:24:43,787 --> 01:24:46,498
are preserved in the
Library of Congress.
1613
01:24:46,498 --> 01:24:48,917
A whole decade of
American history is stored
1614
01:24:48,917 --> 01:24:51,252
and cataloged here.
1615
01:24:51,961 --> 01:24:53,254
It is the best organized
1616
01:24:53,254 --> 01:24:58,426
and publicly accessible
visual record of the 1930s.
1617
01:24:58,968 --> 01:25:01,387
Unfortunately, there were
no archives for the work
1618
01:25:01,387 --> 01:25:02,847
of painters and designers.
1619
01:25:02,847 --> 01:25:03,932
In the '30s,
1620
01:25:03,932 --> 01:25:07,602
James Brooks, now a well-known
abstract expressionist,
1621
01:25:07,602 --> 01:25:10,772
painted a mural for New
York's LaGuardia Airport.
1622
01:25:10,772 --> 01:25:12,440
- I heard from a friend,
1623
01:25:12,440 --> 01:25:14,442
he was the director
of the Boston Museum,
1624
01:25:14,442 --> 01:25:15,944
when he was down
visiting a friend,
1625
01:25:15,944 --> 01:25:19,114
that he had come through the
terminal on the way down,
1626
01:25:19,114 --> 01:25:21,366
and there was nothing
on the walls anymore.
1627
01:25:21,366 --> 01:25:24,452
And he wondered what
happened. I didn't know.
1628
01:25:24,452 --> 01:25:27,622
So I asked and I heard that
it had just been painted out,
1629
01:25:27,622 --> 01:25:28,915
without asking anyone,
1630
01:25:28,915 --> 01:25:31,376
by the port authority
who had recently
1631
01:25:31,376 --> 01:25:32,836
taken over the building.
1632
01:25:32,836 --> 01:25:35,380
The Marine Terminal
was the building
1633
01:25:35,380 --> 01:25:37,423
that I did a circular mural in
1634
01:25:37,423 --> 01:25:41,970
that circumscribed the lobby,
10 feet up from the floor,
1635
01:25:41,970 --> 01:25:44,514
10 and a 1/2 feet
up from the floor.
1636
01:25:44,514 --> 01:25:47,350
The height of the mural
actually was 12 feet,
1637
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:50,436
3 inches by 235 feet.
1638
01:25:50,436 --> 01:25:53,857
It was a quite a complex job.
1639
01:25:55,525 --> 01:25:57,360
It's about the idea of flight.
1640
01:25:57,360 --> 01:26:01,990
It starts with man's
thoughts about flight. .
1641
01:26:01,990 --> 01:26:06,828
And this is early man being
oppressed by nature
1642
01:26:06,828 --> 01:26:08,329
and wondering what
it's all about
1643
01:26:08,329 --> 01:26:10,874
and where the
lightning comes from.
1644
01:26:10,874 --> 01:26:14,377
Then here's a modern
man and a woman walking
1645
01:26:14,377 --> 01:26:17,088
under a plane with the shadow
of a plane coming across her,
1646
01:26:17,088 --> 01:26:20,425
and the compass there.
1647
01:26:20,425 --> 01:26:22,218
♪ (soft music)
1648
01:26:22,218 --> 01:26:24,179
- [Orson Welles] Today,
no trace is left
1649
01:26:24,179 --> 01:26:27,015
of Brooks' gigantic mural.
1650
01:26:27,015 --> 01:26:30,643
It is painted over in
institutional green.
1651
01:26:30,643 --> 01:26:34,355
The fear and suspicion of the
post-war years left no place
1652
01:26:34,355 --> 01:26:38,484
for muralists' social
criticism and political art.
1653
01:26:38,484 --> 01:26:41,029
Hundreds of murals and
thousands of easel paintings
1654
01:26:41,029 --> 01:26:44,616
and posters were simply
lost, or destroyed.
1655
01:26:44,616 --> 01:26:50,288
♪ (soft music)
1656
01:26:50,288 --> 01:26:52,916
- How The Arts Project
died, of course,
1657
01:26:52,916 --> 01:26:55,084
is part of history
few know about.
1658
01:26:55,084 --> 01:26:56,461
The primitives took over.
1659
01:26:56,461 --> 01:26:58,713
The Neanderthals took
over, it's simple as that.
1660
01:26:58,713 --> 01:27:01,341
By the way, we say
right one or beat left,
1661
01:27:01,341 --> 01:27:05,303
that doesn't mean anything.
I think the idea that a
Neanderthalism took over,
1662
01:27:05,303 --> 01:27:06,679
not just anti-intellectual,
1663
01:27:06,679 --> 01:27:09,057
it's contempt for
working people too.
1664
01:27:09,057 --> 01:27:12,727
- Our committee is the
only agency of government
1665
01:27:12,727 --> 01:27:15,313
that has the power of exposure.
1666
01:27:15,313 --> 01:27:19,400
Therefore, this
investigation must go on,
1667
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:21,736
without fear or favor,
1668
01:27:21,736 --> 01:27:23,863
and our slogan must be:
1669
01:27:23,863 --> 01:27:27,408
"No quarter to the
enemies of our country. "
1670
01:27:27,408 --> 01:27:30,620
- The the ending of the
Federal Arts Project,
1671
01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:33,331
or WPA itself, was
also a diminishing
1672
01:27:33,331 --> 01:27:36,167
of the vision of
possibilities. .
1673
01:27:36,167 --> 01:27:37,961
and I think this is
one of the horrors,
1674
01:27:37,961 --> 01:27:40,755
aside from making the
young ignorant of history,
1675
01:27:40,755 --> 01:27:42,257
particularly of labor,
1676
01:27:42,257 --> 01:27:46,552
but also making us
zombies in a sense.
1677
01:27:46,552 --> 01:27:49,597
And of course, it's not
accidental that. . when the war,
1678
01:27:49,597 --> 01:27:52,100
of course, happened,
a mobilization occurred,
1679
01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:57,272
but. . within the hot war
itself against fascism,
1680
01:27:57,272 --> 01:27:59,315
the seeds of the
cold war being sewn.
1681
01:27:59,315 --> 01:28:04,612
- I used to run under different
names like everybody did.
1682
01:28:04,612 --> 01:28:07,532
"True Confessions,"
Boston's "True Confessions"
1683
01:28:07,532 --> 01:28:09,450
started here in Minneapolis.
1684
01:28:09,450 --> 01:28:11,703
So you used to try and
write a true confession
1685
01:28:11,703 --> 01:28:14,330
under a different name. .
1686
01:28:14,330 --> 01:28:15,540
and. .
1687
01:28:15,540 --> 01:28:17,875
I wrote for women's magazines
under a different name.
1688
01:28:17,875 --> 01:28:20,128
I had about four or five names.
1689
01:28:20,128 --> 01:28:21,462
I'd. .
1690
01:28:21,462 --> 01:28:25,883
get a job waiting on tables,
and in a week the boss
1691
01:28:25,883 --> 01:28:29,887
would come and say, "I'm sorry. .
the FBI has been here. "
1692
01:28:30,555 --> 01:28:33,057
- [Orson Welles] Ironically
and sadly after the war,
1693
01:28:33,057 --> 01:28:36,352
many people were punished
for their involvement.
1694
01:28:36,352 --> 01:28:37,478
They were investigated
1695
01:28:37,478 --> 01:28:39,522
by the Un-American
Activities Committee
1696
01:28:39,522 --> 01:28:43,026
by Senator McCarthy
. and the FBI.
1697
01:28:43,026 --> 01:28:45,278
Not only their
work was destroyed,
1698
01:28:45,278 --> 01:28:49,240
but the very memory they
stood for was obliterated.
1699
01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,785
The WPA and its Arts
Projects blossomed
1700
01:28:52,785 --> 01:28:56,164
for a merely three
or four years. .
1701
01:28:56,164 --> 01:28:59,042
then they fell victim
to powerful forces:
1702
01:28:59,042 --> 01:29:01,085
conservatism, the war,
1703
01:29:01,085 --> 01:29:04,255
the prosperity of
the post-war years. .
1704
01:29:04,255 --> 01:29:07,592
but despite their sudden
and tragic demise,
1705
01:29:07,592 --> 01:29:12,555
these projects left us an
important cultural legacy.
1706
01:29:12,555 --> 01:29:17,393
The New Deal left us a
belief in ordinary people,
1707
01:29:17,393 --> 01:29:20,521
in older American values,
1708
01:29:20,521 --> 01:29:23,524
in a truly popular
American culture.
1709
01:29:23,524 --> 01:29:26,027
The artists of the
'30s gave a shape,
1710
01:29:26,027 --> 01:29:28,696
a vision, a form to the period.
1711
01:29:28,696 --> 01:29:32,617
They bestowed on us the gift
of memory of our people,
1712
01:29:32,617 --> 01:29:35,870
our places, and ourselves.
1713
01:29:37,663 --> 01:29:41,250
- ♪ (singing) I saw
an honest farmer
1714
01:29:41,250 --> 01:29:45,129
♪ His back was bending low
1715
01:29:45,129 --> 01:29:47,882
♪ Picking out his cotton
1716
01:29:47,882 --> 01:29:50,968
♪ He couldn't hardly go
1717
01:29:50,968 --> 01:29:53,971
♪ He piled it up
in the rail pen
1718
01:29:53,971 --> 01:29:57,475
♪ Until the merchant come
1719
01:29:57,475 --> 01:30:00,103
♪ That he might
take his cotton
1720
01:30:00,103 --> 01:30:03,731
♪ That he might give them some
1721
01:30:03,731 --> 01:30:06,734
♪ Goodbye, boll weevil
1722
01:30:06,734 --> 01:30:09,862
♪ For you know you've
ruined my home
1723
01:30:09,862 --> 01:30:13,074
♪ You know you've
got my cotton
1724
01:30:13,074 --> 01:30:16,077
♪ And the merchant's
got my corn
1725
01:30:16,077 --> 01:30:18,996
♪ I saw him in the summer
1726
01:30:18,996 --> 01:30:22,250
♪ 'Twas hot as it could be
1727
01:30:22,250 --> 01:30:25,461
♪ Strolling through
the harvest field
1728
01:30:25,461 --> 01:30:28,089
♪ The sweat was running free
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