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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:13,759 --> 00:00:14,758 It's just such an evil, 2 00:00:14,759 --> 00:00:17,059 dirty place. 3 00:00:18,859 --> 00:00:20,059 It's isolated. 4 00:00:20,060 --> 00:00:22,459 It's desolate. 5 00:00:22,460 --> 00:00:23,792 It's a rich community. 6 00:00:23,793 --> 00:00:25,193 You've got doctors and cops 7 00:00:25,194 --> 00:00:27,159 and very, very wealthy people 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,159 who live there. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,559 No one is ever gonna think that 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,160 that's a bad, dangerous area, 11 00:00:34,161 --> 00:00:36,959 but it is. 12 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:37,761 On the 13 00:00:37,762 --> 00:00:38,794 south shore of long island, 14 00:00:38,795 --> 00:00:40,527 a major police investigation 15 00:00:40,528 --> 00:00:41,827 is under way. 16 00:00:41,828 --> 00:00:43,594 Ten bodies have been found 17 00:00:43,595 --> 00:00:45,095 so far on a single stretch 18 00:00:45,096 --> 00:00:46,860 of coast. 19 00:00:46,861 --> 00:00:47,860 The chief of detectives calls 20 00:00:47,861 --> 00:00:48,860 and says, "they've found 21 00:00:48,861 --> 00:00:50,561 another body." 22 00:00:50,562 --> 00:00:52,061 And then sometime later, 23 00:00:52,062 --> 00:00:53,061 he calls and says, "we've found 24 00:00:53,062 --> 00:00:54,661 another body." 25 00:00:54,662 --> 00:00:56,495 And then another one. 26 00:00:56,496 --> 00:00:57,396 The crimes may be 27 00:00:57,397 --> 00:00:58,928 the work of more than one 28 00:00:58,929 --> 00:01:01,396 serial killer. 29 00:01:01,397 --> 00:01:02,130 They're gonna find more 30 00:01:02,131 --> 00:01:04,196 bodies, because a serial killer 31 00:01:04,197 --> 00:01:05,596 doesn't stop killing. 32 00:01:05,597 --> 00:01:06,397 He keeps killing till 33 00:01:06,398 --> 00:01:08,430 he gets caught. 34 00:01:09,763 --> 00:01:10,762 The first four 35 00:01:10,763 --> 00:01:12,562 victims were young women, 36 00:01:12,563 --> 00:01:13,962 found just miles from where 37 00:01:13,963 --> 00:01:15,363 a fifth vanished after 38 00:01:15,364 --> 00:01:18,563 a terrified call to 911. 39 00:01:18,564 --> 00:01:19,563 When me and my mom got 40 00:01:19,564 --> 00:01:20,531 that phone call that Megan 41 00:01:20,532 --> 00:01:22,530 was missing, I knew that 42 00:01:22,531 --> 00:01:25,131 if they found her, it wasn't 43 00:01:25,132 --> 00:01:28,930 gonna be a happy outcome. 44 00:01:28,931 --> 00:01:32,164 Mother's instinct. 45 00:01:32,165 --> 00:01:33,998 As their families 46 00:01:33,999 --> 00:01:36,198 search for answers, we ask: 47 00:01:36,199 --> 00:01:37,998 Who were these women? 48 00:01:37,999 --> 00:01:39,199 Why were four of them hidden 49 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,798 side by side on a long island 50 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:41,998 beach? 51 00:01:41,999 --> 00:01:43,898 And who is the killer, 52 00:01:43,899 --> 00:01:47,632 still out there? 53 00:01:47,633 --> 00:01:49,100 Right now, all right, 54 00:01:49,101 --> 00:01:50,233 for anyone to come out and say 55 00:01:50,234 --> 00:01:51,765 that it's a specific person, 56 00:01:51,766 --> 00:01:53,565 a specific occupation, 57 00:01:53,566 --> 00:01:55,166 or a specific type, I think, 58 00:01:55,167 --> 00:01:56,765 is unfair, and I think it's 59 00:01:56,766 --> 00:01:58,166 mere suspicion. 60 00:01:58,167 --> 00:01:59,366 It's mere speculation. 61 00:01:59,367 --> 00:02:00,167 All right, right now, 62 00:02:00,168 --> 00:02:03,102 it could be anybody. 63 00:02:09,801 --> 00:02:10,900 On the night of 64 00:02:10,901 --> 00:02:13,201 may 1, 2010, 65 00:02:13,202 --> 00:02:14,834 a woman who worked as an escort 66 00:02:14,835 --> 00:02:17,001 in the online sex trade left 67 00:02:17,002 --> 00:02:18,601 Manhattan for a routine job 68 00:02:18,602 --> 00:02:20,567 on long island. 69 00:02:20,568 --> 00:02:22,603 Her name was Shannan Gilbert. 70 00:02:24,236 --> 00:02:26,001 On that night, the client 71 00:02:26,002 --> 00:02:29,002 contacted her on craigslist. 72 00:02:29,003 --> 00:02:30,402 She called him, 73 00:02:30,403 --> 00:02:31,602 made arrangements to 74 00:02:31,603 --> 00:02:33,768 meet him at his house. 75 00:02:33,769 --> 00:02:35,169 She had her driver, 76 00:02:35,170 --> 00:02:39,169 Michael pak, drive her there. 77 00:02:39,170 --> 00:02:41,369 He said he was in long 78 00:02:41,370 --> 00:02:42,170 island, so we were like, 79 00:02:42,171 --> 00:02:43,171 "oh, no, too far." 80 00:02:45,004 --> 00:02:47,370 But then he offered two hours 81 00:02:47,371 --> 00:02:49,170 for $450. 82 00:02:49,171 --> 00:02:51,170 And so since there were not 83 00:02:51,171 --> 00:02:54,170 any other appointments, 84 00:02:54,171 --> 00:02:56,105 she said, "okay, let's go." 85 00:02:56,106 --> 00:02:57,637 Michael pak 86 00:02:57,638 --> 00:02:59,770 was Shannan's business partner. 87 00:02:59,771 --> 00:03:00,671 They split the profits 88 00:03:00,672 --> 00:03:04,904 of the bookings she got online. 89 00:03:04,905 --> 00:03:05,905 It took, like, a while 90 00:03:05,906 --> 00:03:08,338 to get there. 91 00:03:08,339 --> 00:03:11,106 It got darker and darker. 92 00:03:11,107 --> 00:03:11,872 I was like, "oh, my god, 93 00:03:11,872 --> 00:03:12,706 you know, wow. 94 00:03:12,707 --> 00:03:14,372 Where are we going?" 95 00:03:14,373 --> 00:03:15,340 They were heading 96 00:03:15,341 --> 00:03:16,340 that night to a client named 97 00:03:16,341 --> 00:03:17,539 Joseph brewer, who lived in 98 00:03:17,540 --> 00:03:18,905 a gated community called 99 00:03:18,906 --> 00:03:20,940 oak beach. 100 00:03:23,740 --> 00:03:25,872 He drove out in an S.U.V., 101 00:03:25,873 --> 00:03:26,872 and then he opened the gate, 102 00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:29,473 and then he said follow him. 103 00:03:29,474 --> 00:03:31,107 It was very dark, so I could 104 00:03:31,108 --> 00:03:33,273 only see his lights. 105 00:03:33,274 --> 00:03:35,873 And then he got out of his car, 106 00:03:35,874 --> 00:03:37,673 and Shannan got out, and they 107 00:03:37,674 --> 00:03:40,242 went in, up to his house. 108 00:03:42,542 --> 00:03:43,541 While she was at the client's 109 00:03:43,542 --> 00:03:46,541 house, something went wrong. 110 00:03:46,542 --> 00:03:47,409 Around 5:00 A.M., 111 00:03:47,410 --> 00:03:48,808 he came out. 112 00:03:48,809 --> 00:03:49,609 I was shocked, you know? 113 00:03:49,610 --> 00:03:50,609 Why is he coming out, right? 114 00:03:50,609 --> 00:03:51,409 'Cause I was, like, 115 00:03:51,409 --> 00:03:52,210 sleeping in the car. 116 00:03:52,210 --> 00:03:53,110 And then he was, like, 117 00:03:53,111 --> 00:03:55,674 you know, "get her out of here." 118 00:03:55,675 --> 00:03:57,442 I followed him up into 119 00:03:57,443 --> 00:03:58,775 his house. 120 00:03:58,776 --> 00:04:00,709 Shannan was standing there 121 00:04:00,710 --> 00:04:01,909 right in front of the kitchen. 122 00:04:01,910 --> 00:04:04,542 I was like, "Shannan, let's go." 123 00:04:04,543 --> 00:04:05,909 When I said, "let's go," 124 00:04:05,910 --> 00:04:07,909 he grabbed her from behind, 125 00:04:07,910 --> 00:04:08,909 and I think he was trying 126 00:04:08,910 --> 00:04:10,110 to push her out, but, you know, 127 00:04:10,111 --> 00:04:11,110 instead of just pushing her out, 128 00:04:11,111 --> 00:04:12,510 he kind of grabbed her. 129 00:04:12,511 --> 00:04:16,310 So she freaked out. 130 00:04:16,311 --> 00:04:19,511 And she said, um... 131 00:04:22,711 --> 00:04:23,910 Oh, what did she say? 132 00:04:23,911 --> 00:04:26,111 Um... 133 00:04:26,112 --> 00:04:26,912 "You guys are trying 134 00:04:26,913 --> 00:04:28,677 to kill me." 135 00:04:28,678 --> 00:04:30,145 That's when the 911 call 136 00:04:30,146 --> 00:04:32,444 started. 137 00:04:32,445 --> 00:04:35,245 Screaming, "help me, 138 00:04:35,246 --> 00:04:38,212 help me, help me." 139 00:04:38,213 --> 00:04:41,112 I was in, shaving, 140 00:04:41,113 --> 00:04:42,879 at 5:00 in the morning. 141 00:04:42,913 --> 00:04:44,478 And somebody knocked on the door 142 00:04:44,479 --> 00:04:45,678 and was screaming, "help me, 143 00:04:45,679 --> 00:04:47,679 help me." 144 00:04:47,713 --> 00:04:48,878 I asked her what the problem 145 00:04:48,879 --> 00:04:49,878 was, and she wouldn't 146 00:04:49,879 --> 00:04:50,714 answer me. 147 00:04:50,715 --> 00:04:51,879 She just kept staring at me, 148 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,879 yelling, "help me, help me." 149 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:55,879 At 5:00 A.M., 150 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,879 Gus Coletti also called 911. 151 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,114 When he told Shannan the police 152 00:05:00,115 --> 00:05:02,314 were on their way, she ran. 153 00:05:02,315 --> 00:05:05,580 People saw a black truck 154 00:05:05,581 --> 00:05:07,347 taunting her as she's running 155 00:05:07,348 --> 00:05:08,347 down the street, screaming 156 00:05:08,348 --> 00:05:09,248 for help. 157 00:05:09,249 --> 00:05:11,115 At that point, she bolted out 158 00:05:11,116 --> 00:05:13,847 and ran down the road that way. 159 00:05:13,848 --> 00:05:16,248 He took off after her. 160 00:05:16,249 --> 00:05:19,448 That was the last I saw of her. 161 00:05:19,449 --> 00:05:22,548 Between Joseph brewer's house 162 00:05:22,549 --> 00:05:25,548 and the front gate, 163 00:05:25,549 --> 00:05:27,581 my daughter disappeared. 164 00:05:31,383 --> 00:05:32,382 Shannan Gilbert's 165 00:05:32,383 --> 00:05:35,616 911 call lasted 23 minutes. 166 00:05:35,617 --> 00:05:37,016 By the time police arrived 167 00:05:37,017 --> 00:05:39,016 20 minutes later, there was 168 00:05:39,017 --> 00:05:42,217 no trace of her. 169 00:05:42,218 --> 00:05:43,816 Michael pak was questioned about 170 00:05:43,817 --> 00:05:45,617 her disappearance, and so was 171 00:05:45,618 --> 00:05:47,417 Joseph brewer. 172 00:05:47,418 --> 00:05:48,817 Neither man was arrested 173 00:05:48,818 --> 00:05:51,584 or named as a suspect. 174 00:05:57,452 --> 00:05:58,451 Her boyfriend, Alex, called 175 00:05:58,452 --> 00:05:59,618 me and told me that he hadn't 176 00:05:59,619 --> 00:06:03,485 seen Shannan in two days. 177 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:05,119 He wanted to know if I had heard 178 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:06,485 anything or if she was over here 179 00:06:06,486 --> 00:06:09,286 with us, and I told him no. 180 00:06:13,786 --> 00:06:15,285 Her phone was off, 181 00:06:15,286 --> 00:06:16,285 so I figured maybe 182 00:06:16,286 --> 00:06:18,685 her phone died. 183 00:06:18,686 --> 00:06:21,286 Later on, the next day, 184 00:06:21,287 --> 00:06:22,486 her phone was still off, 185 00:06:22,487 --> 00:06:23,620 and that's when I got worried, 186 00:06:23,621 --> 00:06:25,686 and that's when I made 187 00:06:25,687 --> 00:06:27,721 phone calls, you know? 188 00:06:27,754 --> 00:06:29,486 I called pak. 189 00:06:29,487 --> 00:06:30,686 I called her sister. 190 00:06:30,687 --> 00:06:33,287 And, you know, 'cause I didn't 191 00:06:33,288 --> 00:06:37,587 know what was going on. 192 00:06:37,588 --> 00:06:39,387 You know, I had a very uneasy 193 00:06:39,388 --> 00:06:41,154 feeling in my stomach because 194 00:06:41,155 --> 00:06:42,954 they always, you know, got into 195 00:06:42,955 --> 00:06:45,754 fights, but it was never, like, 196 00:06:45,755 --> 00:06:46,754 to the point where he was gonna 197 00:06:46,755 --> 00:06:48,954 call me up and say, "hey, 198 00:06:48,955 --> 00:06:49,755 have you heard from 199 00:06:49,755 --> 00:06:50,556 your sister?" 200 00:06:50,557 --> 00:06:52,555 So it was... 201 00:06:52,556 --> 00:06:54,989 It was really frightening. 202 00:06:57,856 --> 00:06:58,656 She would look in the mirror, 203 00:06:58,657 --> 00:07:00,722 and she would cry. 204 00:07:00,723 --> 00:07:03,523 She would sing all the time. 205 00:07:03,524 --> 00:07:05,323 My nickname for her was diva, 206 00:07:05,324 --> 00:07:06,723 'cause she always tried to act 207 00:07:06,724 --> 00:07:07,989 like a diva, you know? 208 00:07:07,990 --> 00:07:08,790 Like, she always had 209 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:09,590 the sunglasses on 210 00:07:09,591 --> 00:07:10,989 and the makeup and the hair 211 00:07:10,990 --> 00:07:12,589 and the clothes and the purses 212 00:07:12,590 --> 00:07:14,190 and the shoes. 213 00:07:14,191 --> 00:07:15,590 It was fun to watch, but 214 00:07:15,591 --> 00:07:16,590 sometimes she was over the top, 215 00:07:16,591 --> 00:07:19,990 you know? 216 00:07:19,991 --> 00:07:21,190 She wanted to write. 217 00:07:21,191 --> 00:07:22,590 She wanted to be a singer. 218 00:07:22,591 --> 00:07:25,191 And recently, she had enrolled 219 00:07:25,192 --> 00:07:28,225 in college. 220 00:07:28,226 --> 00:07:29,126 Along with her 221 00:07:29,127 --> 00:07:30,558 college studies, Shannan did 222 00:07:30,559 --> 00:07:32,491 her online escort work. 223 00:07:32,492 --> 00:07:34,258 She'd started at 21 224 00:07:34,259 --> 00:07:36,159 when she moved to Jersey city. 225 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,758 The escort service showed 226 00:07:38,759 --> 00:07:40,958 her the glamorous side, 227 00:07:40,959 --> 00:07:42,958 all the money and all the things 228 00:07:42,959 --> 00:07:43,958 that she could get. 229 00:07:43,959 --> 00:07:44,926 It was quick. 230 00:07:44,927 --> 00:07:45,927 It was fast. 231 00:07:45,928 --> 00:07:50,626 It was, you know, a shortcut. 232 00:07:50,627 --> 00:07:51,560 Shannan met her 233 00:07:51,561 --> 00:07:53,160 boyfriend at the agency. 234 00:07:53,161 --> 00:07:55,560 He was one of the drivers there. 235 00:07:55,561 --> 00:07:56,560 I met her doing this, 236 00:07:56,561 --> 00:07:57,560 so it was kind of hard for me 237 00:07:57,561 --> 00:07:59,760 to tell her to stop. 238 00:07:59,761 --> 00:08:00,760 It was, like, a good connection 239 00:08:00,761 --> 00:08:02,227 we had, you know? 240 00:08:02,228 --> 00:08:03,261 I was never her pimp. 241 00:08:03,262 --> 00:08:04,660 I was always... I was... 242 00:08:04,661 --> 00:08:06,461 We started off as friends. 243 00:08:06,462 --> 00:08:08,394 And, um... 244 00:08:08,395 --> 00:08:09,993 And then it led to that, 245 00:08:09,994 --> 00:08:10,795 you know? 246 00:08:10,796 --> 00:08:12,994 To boyfriend and girlfriend. 247 00:08:12,995 --> 00:08:15,394 She did this on her own. 248 00:08:15,395 --> 00:08:16,994 She wanted to do this, you know? 249 00:08:16,995 --> 00:08:17,962 I never forced her to do 250 00:08:17,963 --> 00:08:19,995 nothing. 251 00:08:25,430 --> 00:08:26,396 Shannan vanished 252 00:08:26,396 --> 00:08:27,196 from the south shore 253 00:08:27,197 --> 00:08:28,329 of long island on the 1st 254 00:08:28,330 --> 00:08:30,895 of may, 2010. 255 00:08:30,896 --> 00:08:32,296 As the summer season began, 256 00:08:32,297 --> 00:08:34,463 there was still no sign of her. 257 00:08:34,464 --> 00:08:35,463 We tried to file a missing 258 00:08:35,464 --> 00:08:36,862 persons report after Shannan 259 00:08:36,863 --> 00:08:39,696 was missing for two days. 260 00:08:39,697 --> 00:08:41,130 We contacted the long island 261 00:08:41,131 --> 00:08:42,496 police department, and they 262 00:08:42,497 --> 00:08:43,896 basically dismissed us. 263 00:08:43,897 --> 00:08:44,896 They told us that we would have 264 00:08:44,897 --> 00:08:46,297 to file it with New Jersey 265 00:08:46,298 --> 00:08:47,132 because that's where she 266 00:08:47,133 --> 00:08:48,331 was living. 267 00:08:48,332 --> 00:08:49,731 And it didn't even make sense 268 00:08:49,732 --> 00:08:52,331 to me. 269 00:08:52,332 --> 00:08:53,897 We were calling the police, 270 00:08:53,898 --> 00:08:55,132 calling the police: 271 00:08:55,133 --> 00:08:56,431 "When are you gonna look? 272 00:08:56,432 --> 00:08:57,431 When are you gonna search? 273 00:08:57,432 --> 00:08:59,132 When are you gonna try to find 274 00:08:59,133 --> 00:09:01,532 Shannan? 275 00:09:01,533 --> 00:09:02,864 Do something." 276 00:09:02,865 --> 00:09:04,265 Immediately after 277 00:09:04,266 --> 00:09:05,898 Shannan's disappearance, 278 00:09:05,899 --> 00:09:07,198 the police searched the house 279 00:09:07,199 --> 00:09:09,133 of the client, Joseph brewer, 280 00:09:09,134 --> 00:09:09,966 and, over the summer, 281 00:09:09,967 --> 00:09:11,898 checked some land nearby. 282 00:09:11,899 --> 00:09:13,133 At the end of the summer, 283 00:09:13,134 --> 00:09:14,133 they came back to question 284 00:09:14,134 --> 00:09:15,466 the key eyewitness on the night 285 00:09:15,467 --> 00:09:17,998 she went missing. 286 00:09:17,999 --> 00:09:19,399 We didn't hear another word 287 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,399 about it until August, 288 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:25,599 and then in August, 289 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,200 a plainclothes detective 290 00:09:27,201 --> 00:09:29,600 in the missing persons bureau 291 00:09:29,601 --> 00:09:30,999 came to my door, and he wanted 292 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 to know what she was wearing, 293 00:09:33,001 --> 00:09:35,600 what I remember about her. 294 00:09:35,601 --> 00:09:37,834 So I told him everything I knew, 295 00:09:37,835 --> 00:09:39,834 and I asked him, "why did it 296 00:09:39,835 --> 00:09:41,235 take four months for you to get 297 00:09:41,236 --> 00:09:43,269 around to looking for her?" 298 00:09:47,469 --> 00:09:48,468 That winter of 299 00:09:48,469 --> 00:09:50,668 2010, there was still no trace 300 00:09:50,669 --> 00:09:52,469 of Shannan. 301 00:09:52,470 --> 00:09:54,436 Then, on December the 11th, 302 00:09:54,437 --> 00:09:56,269 a policeman from Suffolk county 303 00:09:56,270 --> 00:09:58,001 k-9 unit set out with his dog 304 00:09:58,002 --> 00:10:00,336 on a routine training exercise 305 00:10:00,337 --> 00:10:02,369 along the isolated ocean parkway 306 00:10:02,370 --> 00:10:04,403 near oak beach. 307 00:10:11,604 --> 00:10:13,203 While searching the area 308 00:10:13,204 --> 00:10:15,838 with a k-9 dog, a cadaver dog, 309 00:10:15,871 --> 00:10:19,070 an officer came on the remains 310 00:10:19,071 --> 00:10:23,071 of a female. 311 00:10:23,105 --> 00:10:24,271 All of a sudden, there was, 312 00:10:24,272 --> 00:10:25,471 like, three helicopters going 313 00:10:25,472 --> 00:10:26,671 back and forth right over 314 00:10:26,672 --> 00:10:28,038 the rooftops, very low 315 00:10:28,039 --> 00:10:29,038 and making a racket. 316 00:10:29,039 --> 00:10:29,839 I mean, they were shaking 317 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:30,839 the building. 318 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,105 I said, "oh, boy. 319 00:10:32,106 --> 00:10:35,339 They must have found something." 320 00:10:35,340 --> 00:10:36,539 We had detectives come 321 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:37,938 to the house. 322 00:10:37,939 --> 00:10:39,139 They told me that they were 323 00:10:39,140 --> 00:10:40,139 almost 100% sure it was 324 00:10:40,140 --> 00:10:41,939 my sister. 325 00:10:41,940 --> 00:10:44,539 And I just remember thinking, 326 00:10:44,540 --> 00:10:46,140 "oh, my god, she's dead. 327 00:10:46,141 --> 00:10:49,540 I can't believe it." 328 00:10:49,541 --> 00:10:50,740 Two days later, 329 00:10:50,741 --> 00:10:52,340 police began a forensic search 330 00:10:52,341 --> 00:10:53,740 of the area. 331 00:10:53,741 --> 00:10:55,107 No one was prepared for 332 00:10:55,108 --> 00:10:58,706 what they found. 333 00:10:58,707 --> 00:10:59,706 Down now. 334 00:10:59,707 --> 00:11:00,873 Everyone's gonna have to go. 335 00:11:00,874 --> 00:11:02,707 You're gonna need to go 336 00:11:02,708 --> 00:11:04,141 out past the Robert Moses 337 00:11:04,142 --> 00:11:04,974 causeway bridge. 338 00:11:04,974 --> 00:11:05,908 The entire roadway is gonna 339 00:11:05,909 --> 00:11:09,707 shut down. 340 00:11:09,708 --> 00:11:11,041 I was in police headquarters, 341 00:11:11,042 --> 00:11:13,242 in my office, when I got a call 342 00:11:13,243 --> 00:11:14,242 that they had found another 343 00:11:14,243 --> 00:11:16,007 body. 344 00:11:16,008 --> 00:11:20,142 And it was unbelievable. 345 00:11:20,143 --> 00:11:21,308 And then sometime later, 346 00:11:21,309 --> 00:11:22,308 the chief of detectives 347 00:11:22,309 --> 00:11:24,309 called me and says, 348 00:11:24,310 --> 00:11:26,143 "we found another body." 349 00:11:26,144 --> 00:11:28,708 And then another one. 350 00:11:28,709 --> 00:11:29,510 And I can tell you that 351 00:11:29,511 --> 00:11:32,510 that was really a shock. 352 00:11:36,677 --> 00:11:37,610 The police found 353 00:11:37,611 --> 00:11:39,244 four bodies in all 354 00:11:39,245 --> 00:11:40,577 hidden just off the ocean 355 00:11:40,578 --> 00:11:42,244 parkway. 356 00:11:42,245 --> 00:11:43,145 They were lying about 357 00:11:43,146 --> 00:11:44,910 500 feet apart, 358 00:11:44,911 --> 00:11:49,610 wrapped in burlap sacks. 359 00:11:49,611 --> 00:11:50,610 The bodies were placed 360 00:11:50,611 --> 00:11:52,411 on top of the ground, 361 00:11:52,412 --> 00:11:54,211 but they were just dumped 362 00:11:54,212 --> 00:11:55,211 over the brush area, 363 00:11:55,212 --> 00:11:56,211 which is on the side 364 00:11:56,212 --> 00:11:58,010 of the highway. 365 00:11:58,011 --> 00:11:59,345 The police do have 366 00:11:59,346 --> 00:12:00,345 a terrifying mystery 367 00:12:00,346 --> 00:12:01,378 on their hands. 368 00:12:01,379 --> 00:12:02,378 We know at least two of the 369 00:12:02,379 --> 00:12:04,379 bodies may be that of escorts, 370 00:12:04,380 --> 00:12:05,379 but none of the bodies 371 00:12:05,380 --> 00:12:08,380 have been officially identified. 372 00:12:08,413 --> 00:12:09,779 Everyone assumed 373 00:12:09,780 --> 00:12:11,379 when the first body was found 374 00:12:11,380 --> 00:12:13,612 that it was Shannan Gilbert. 375 00:12:13,613 --> 00:12:14,946 Now there were four, 376 00:12:14,947 --> 00:12:15,780 it seemed certain 377 00:12:15,781 --> 00:12:18,513 she'd be one of them. 378 00:12:18,547 --> 00:12:19,912 Oh, wow. 379 00:12:21,281 --> 00:12:23,480 That day, when I heard 380 00:12:23,481 --> 00:12:24,880 the bodies were found, 381 00:12:24,881 --> 00:12:27,147 like, my... I pretty much, like... 382 00:12:27,148 --> 00:12:28,148 My chest, I felt... 383 00:12:28,149 --> 00:12:29,280 I just felt... 384 00:12:29,281 --> 00:12:30,281 Oh, man, I just can't even... 385 00:12:30,282 --> 00:12:31,281 I thought that... 386 00:12:31,282 --> 00:12:33,281 I thought they found her. 387 00:12:33,282 --> 00:12:34,548 Shannan had one 388 00:12:34,549 --> 00:12:35,880 key feature that made her 389 00:12:35,881 --> 00:12:38,148 easy to identify. 390 00:12:38,149 --> 00:12:39,414 Her boyfriend, Alex, had once 391 00:12:39,415 --> 00:12:40,748 hit her so hard, she had 392 00:12:40,749 --> 00:12:43,881 a metal plate in her chin. 393 00:12:43,882 --> 00:12:45,282 One day, she came, 394 00:12:45,283 --> 00:12:46,482 you know, a little aggressively, 395 00:12:46,483 --> 00:12:47,283 you know? 396 00:12:47,283 --> 00:12:48,183 She got pissed off. 397 00:12:48,183 --> 00:12:49,150 She was cursing me out, 398 00:12:49,150 --> 00:12:49,949 kind of hit me. 399 00:12:49,949 --> 00:12:50,883 And I kind of, like, 400 00:12:50,883 --> 00:12:52,482 went out of line, and I hit her. 401 00:12:52,483 --> 00:12:53,482 And I didn't think I hit her 402 00:12:53,483 --> 00:12:55,849 that hard, but I hit her, 403 00:12:55,850 --> 00:12:57,449 and I actually, you know, 404 00:12:57,450 --> 00:13:01,583 fractured her jaw. 405 00:13:01,584 --> 00:13:03,750 I felt so bad that after that, 406 00:13:03,751 --> 00:13:04,949 I never hit her again, ever, 407 00:13:04,950 --> 00:13:08,151 ever again, never hit her. 408 00:13:08,152 --> 00:13:09,151 It was that plate 409 00:13:09,152 --> 00:13:10,550 forensic investigators 410 00:13:10,551 --> 00:13:12,683 were searching for. 411 00:13:12,684 --> 00:13:13,518 Three days after 412 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,284 the discoveries, 413 00:13:16,285 --> 00:13:17,152 the police called the family 414 00:13:17,153 --> 00:13:19,751 with news. 415 00:13:19,752 --> 00:13:22,951 She was ruled out. 416 00:13:22,952 --> 00:13:24,617 I can't even describe the 417 00:13:24,618 --> 00:13:26,385 emotion that we were feeling. 418 00:13:26,386 --> 00:13:27,984 It was like a roller coaster. 419 00:13:27,985 --> 00:13:29,785 It was just crazy, 420 00:13:29,786 --> 00:13:31,685 crazy situation. 421 00:13:31,686 --> 00:13:33,152 I'm glad that none of the bodies 422 00:13:33,153 --> 00:13:35,285 were hers, but at the same time, 423 00:13:35,286 --> 00:13:38,286 it just... 424 00:13:38,287 --> 00:13:39,885 The question remains, you know? 425 00:13:39,886 --> 00:13:42,287 Where is she? 426 00:13:47,754 --> 00:13:48,986 Three miles from 427 00:13:48,987 --> 00:13:50,154 the gated community where 428 00:13:50,155 --> 00:13:52,287 Shannan vanished, the forensic 429 00:13:52,288 --> 00:13:54,220 investigation continued, 430 00:13:54,221 --> 00:13:55,953 and new details were beginning 431 00:13:57,388 --> 00:13:59,620 First, how the victims died. 432 00:13:59,621 --> 00:14:00,987 The cause of their death 433 00:14:00,988 --> 00:14:03,620 was asphyxiation. 434 00:14:03,621 --> 00:14:05,421 We surmised that they were 435 00:14:05,422 --> 00:14:06,421 killed soon after they 436 00:14:06,422 --> 00:14:08,221 disappeared, 437 00:14:08,222 --> 00:14:10,221 maybe not immediately 438 00:14:10,222 --> 00:14:12,288 but soon thereafter. 439 00:14:12,289 --> 00:14:12,956 This was 440 00:14:12,956 --> 00:14:13,822 the beginning of a crime 441 00:14:13,823 --> 00:14:16,321 that is still unsolved today. 442 00:14:16,322 --> 00:14:17,322 The man who had to catch 443 00:14:17,323 --> 00:14:18,888 this killer was the police 444 00:14:18,889 --> 00:14:20,955 commissioner of Suffolk county. 445 00:14:20,956 --> 00:14:22,722 I've seen a lot of violence, 446 00:14:22,723 --> 00:14:26,356 murders; You name it. 447 00:14:26,357 --> 00:14:27,556 But this was the largest case 448 00:14:27,557 --> 00:14:30,589 that I've ever handled. 449 00:14:30,590 --> 00:14:33,622 They were all sex workers. 450 00:14:33,623 --> 00:14:34,591 They were all dumped 451 00:14:34,592 --> 00:14:37,290 in the same place. 452 00:14:37,291 --> 00:14:38,290 Cause and manner of death 453 00:14:38,291 --> 00:14:39,857 was the same. 454 00:14:39,858 --> 00:14:41,057 I don't think it's a coincidence 455 00:14:41,058 --> 00:14:42,857 that four bodies ended up 456 00:14:42,858 --> 00:14:44,191 in this area. 457 00:14:44,192 --> 00:14:45,191 You have these common 458 00:14:45,192 --> 00:14:46,790 denominators which are pointing 459 00:14:46,791 --> 00:14:48,458 to one person. 460 00:14:48,459 --> 00:14:49,491 We're looking at that. 461 00:14:49,492 --> 00:14:50,292 We're looking at that, 462 00:14:50,292 --> 00:14:51,159 that we could have 463 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,359 a serial killer. 464 00:15:04,893 --> 00:15:07,225 Long island is quick to 465 00:15:07,226 --> 00:15:10,425 the city but yet far enough out 466 00:15:10,426 --> 00:15:12,293 where people can have beautiful 467 00:15:12,294 --> 00:15:16,160 summer homes, walk on the sand, 468 00:15:16,161 --> 00:15:19,760 but it's also very cold 469 00:15:19,761 --> 00:15:21,827 and isolated. 470 00:15:23,794 --> 00:15:25,626 In December 2010, 471 00:15:25,627 --> 00:15:27,026 the quiet suburban streets 472 00:15:27,027 --> 00:15:28,227 of long island were at 473 00:15:28,228 --> 00:15:29,794 the center of a major 474 00:15:29,795 --> 00:15:31,527 unfolding crime. 475 00:15:31,528 --> 00:15:32,994 The police announced that 476 00:15:32,995 --> 00:15:34,727 a serial killer was at work 477 00:15:34,728 --> 00:15:36,594 on the island. 478 00:15:36,595 --> 00:15:38,027 Suffolk county is a very 479 00:15:38,028 --> 00:15:40,828 safe, peaceful community. 480 00:15:40,862 --> 00:15:42,228 But to think that you have 481 00:15:42,229 --> 00:15:44,428 a serial killer living 482 00:15:44,429 --> 00:15:46,628 and working and playing 483 00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:48,228 in your community 484 00:15:48,229 --> 00:15:50,163 is disturbing to people. 485 00:15:50,164 --> 00:15:51,329 Police are blocking off 486 00:15:51,330 --> 00:15:53,163 ocean parkway for yet another 487 00:15:53,164 --> 00:15:54,895 day to find new leads in 488 00:15:54,896 --> 00:15:56,363 the Shannan Gilbert case 489 00:15:56,364 --> 00:15:57,763 and any information on 490 00:15:57,764 --> 00:15:59,563 the serial killer... 491 00:15:59,564 --> 00:16:00,929 We didn't want to cause 492 00:16:00,930 --> 00:16:02,197 an uproar... 493 00:16:02,198 --> 00:16:03,863 Yet another disturbing 494 00:16:03,864 --> 00:16:04,597 discovery. 495 00:16:04,598 --> 00:16:05,597 But it was necessary 496 00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:06,829 to get that information out. 497 00:16:06,830 --> 00:16:07,996 This has become a very, 498 00:16:07,997 --> 00:16:09,797 very large crime scene. 499 00:16:09,798 --> 00:16:10,665 And it raised the profile 500 00:16:10,666 --> 00:16:11,665 of the case. 501 00:16:11,666 --> 00:16:14,064 That's obvious. 502 00:16:14,065 --> 00:16:14,865 The police 503 00:16:14,865 --> 00:16:15,698 discovered the killer's 504 00:16:15,699 --> 00:16:17,365 four victims in undergrowth 505 00:16:17,366 --> 00:16:19,797 on the island's south shore. 506 00:16:19,798 --> 00:16:22,165 They were lying three miles from 507 00:16:22,166 --> 00:16:23,331 a gated community called 508 00:16:23,332 --> 00:16:25,165 oak beach. 509 00:16:25,166 --> 00:16:27,165 A fifth woman, Shannan Gilbert, 510 00:16:27,166 --> 00:16:28,498 had disappeared there 511 00:16:28,499 --> 00:16:29,899 seven months earlier. 512 00:16:29,932 --> 00:16:31,166 But Shannan was not one 513 00:16:31,167 --> 00:16:34,167 of the bodies. 514 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,199 The question now was, 515 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,166 who were they? 516 00:16:39,167 --> 00:16:40,166 When me and my mom got 517 00:16:40,167 --> 00:16:41,167 that phone call that Megan 518 00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:43,966 was missing, I knew that 519 00:16:43,967 --> 00:16:45,167 if they found her, it wasn't 520 00:16:45,168 --> 00:16:47,201 gonna be a happy outcome. 521 00:16:49,634 --> 00:16:51,834 Mother's instinct. 522 00:16:54,001 --> 00:16:54,801 A month after 523 00:16:54,802 --> 00:16:55,967 Shannan Gilbert went missing 524 00:16:55,968 --> 00:16:58,368 from oak beach, Lorraine Ela's 525 00:16:58,369 --> 00:16:59,800 daughter disappeared from 526 00:16:59,801 --> 00:17:01,800 a long island hotel 20 miles 527 00:17:01,801 --> 00:17:03,368 to the north. 528 00:17:03,369 --> 00:17:04,868 Lorraine had been searching for 529 00:17:04,869 --> 00:17:08,068 her for six months. 530 00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:09,068 Megan was seen leaving 531 00:17:09,069 --> 00:17:11,068 the hotel room at 1:30 in 532 00:17:11,069 --> 00:17:13,269 the morning by herself, 533 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:16,836 and she vanished. 534 00:17:24,437 --> 00:17:25,802 You could meet Megan the first 535 00:17:25,803 --> 00:17:27,002 time, and you'd fall right in 536 00:17:27,003 --> 00:17:27,903 love with her. 537 00:17:27,904 --> 00:17:29,303 She didn't take crap 538 00:17:29,304 --> 00:17:31,503 from nobody. 539 00:17:31,504 --> 00:17:33,503 She was in and out of jail 540 00:17:33,504 --> 00:17:36,370 on little petty things. 541 00:17:36,371 --> 00:17:38,970 She drank. 542 00:17:38,971 --> 00:17:40,171 And I think she got that one 543 00:17:40,172 --> 00:17:42,371 from me. 544 00:17:42,372 --> 00:17:44,971 But when she had her daughter, 545 00:17:44,972 --> 00:17:46,171 she had actually started 546 00:17:46,172 --> 00:17:48,238 straightening her life out. 547 00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:53,238 She did everything for 548 00:17:53,239 --> 00:17:54,538 her daughter. 549 00:17:54,539 --> 00:17:57,205 Her daughter was her life. 550 00:17:57,206 --> 00:17:58,205 Her first Christmas, 551 00:17:58,206 --> 00:17:59,972 my daughter spent almost 552 00:17:59,973 --> 00:18:02,239 $1,000 on her for Christmas. 553 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,638 What does a 3 1/2 month old kid 554 00:18:03,639 --> 00:18:04,638 know about Christmas? 555 00:18:04,639 --> 00:18:06,673 Nothing. 556 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,439 Her birthdays, Megan wouldn't 557 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,439 mind dumping 500, 600, 700 bucks 558 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,439 a whack. 559 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,439 She wanted her daughter to have 560 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,907 the best of everything. 561 00:18:24,408 --> 00:18:25,807 She wanted to save up enough 562 00:18:25,808 --> 00:18:27,174 money so she could get 563 00:18:27,175 --> 00:18:28,175 an apartment and move out 564 00:18:28,176 --> 00:18:29,540 and be able to pay her own rent 565 00:18:29,541 --> 00:18:31,875 for a while. 566 00:18:36,176 --> 00:18:38,175 I think Megan was into 567 00:18:38,176 --> 00:18:41,341 the escort maybe a month or two 568 00:18:41,342 --> 00:18:43,176 when I found out. 569 00:18:43,177 --> 00:18:44,741 And the person that told me, 570 00:18:44,742 --> 00:18:46,808 I didn't believe him. 571 00:18:46,809 --> 00:18:48,409 So I logged into craigslist 572 00:18:48,410 --> 00:18:50,209 myself. 573 00:18:50,210 --> 00:18:51,209 Let me tell you, it's not 574 00:18:51,210 --> 00:18:52,409 an easy thing to go through. 575 00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:55,177 I think I went through 576 00:18:55,178 --> 00:18:56,576 hundreds of ads before 577 00:18:56,577 --> 00:18:58,743 I found Megan. 578 00:19:02,678 --> 00:19:03,544 Megan posted her 579 00:19:03,545 --> 00:19:05,076 escort ad on the website 580 00:19:05,077 --> 00:19:06,743 craigslist, because alongside 581 00:19:06,744 --> 00:19:08,178 its listings for cars 582 00:19:08,179 --> 00:19:09,843 and golf clubs and apartments, 583 00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:11,211 there was another service 584 00:19:11,212 --> 00:19:12,810 available. 585 00:19:12,811 --> 00:19:15,211 How craigslist works is, 586 00:19:15,212 --> 00:19:16,879 we would go and get a visa card. 587 00:19:16,944 --> 00:19:20,211 Okay, we would put $25 on it. 588 00:19:20,212 --> 00:19:21,411 You'd get online. 589 00:19:21,412 --> 00:19:23,012 You go to post the ad. 590 00:19:23,045 --> 00:19:24,245 So I would have, "italia, 591 00:19:24,246 --> 00:19:25,811 new girl in your area." 592 00:19:25,812 --> 00:19:27,412 Then the description stating 593 00:19:27,413 --> 00:19:28,280 my height and my weight, 594 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,180 you know, my services 595 00:19:29,181 --> 00:19:30,445 that I provide. 596 00:19:30,446 --> 00:19:31,845 And then you post... 597 00:19:31,846 --> 00:19:35,246 I posted two pictures. 598 00:19:35,247 --> 00:19:36,845 Actually, can you give me 599 00:19:36,846 --> 00:19:39,612 a second? 600 00:19:39,613 --> 00:19:41,713 If I can get on here... 601 00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:43,913 Um, were these pictures 602 00:19:43,914 --> 00:19:45,947 right here. 603 00:19:46,981 --> 00:19:48,181 The guy calls you, 604 00:19:48,182 --> 00:19:49,047 "can you tell me what 605 00:19:49,047 --> 00:19:49,847 your services are?" 606 00:19:49,847 --> 00:19:50,647 And I would tell him: 607 00:19:50,647 --> 00:19:51,448 I dance topless. 608 00:19:51,448 --> 00:19:52,248 I go completely nude, 609 00:19:52,249 --> 00:19:53,647 and I offer a massage. 610 00:19:53,648 --> 00:19:55,647 And, you know, it runs about 611 00:19:55,648 --> 00:19:57,447 $175 for an hour, or $125 for 612 00:19:57,448 --> 00:20:00,047 the half hour, cash only. 613 00:20:00,048 --> 00:20:01,182 And it usually takes me about 614 00:20:01,183 --> 00:20:02,048 45 minutes, if you're in 615 00:20:02,049 --> 00:20:03,048 the local area, to get to where 616 00:20:03,049 --> 00:20:05,149 you're at. 617 00:20:10,416 --> 00:20:12,015 In the old days, prostitutes 618 00:20:12,016 --> 00:20:14,183 were in the open, and they 619 00:20:14,184 --> 00:20:15,582 were waving down cars 620 00:20:15,583 --> 00:20:18,184 and encountering men. 621 00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:21,183 If a prostitute was victimized 622 00:20:21,184 --> 00:20:24,584 violently by a John, 623 00:20:24,617 --> 00:20:25,584 typically, there would be 624 00:20:25,585 --> 00:20:26,584 witnesses who could tell us 625 00:20:26,585 --> 00:20:27,584 a little bit about what type 626 00:20:27,585 --> 00:20:29,749 of automobile she got into. 627 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:31,150 Now with the Internet, 628 00:20:31,151 --> 00:20:33,350 it's all gone indoors. 629 00:20:33,351 --> 00:20:35,350 It's all gone really 630 00:20:35,351 --> 00:20:37,851 underground. 631 00:20:42,252 --> 00:20:43,450 We tried talking to Megan 632 00:20:43,451 --> 00:20:45,950 about it, telling her that, 633 00:20:45,951 --> 00:20:46,950 "it's not safe. 634 00:20:46,951 --> 00:20:47,950 You're putting your life 635 00:20:47,951 --> 00:20:49,751 in jeopardy when you do this. 636 00:20:49,752 --> 00:20:52,951 Why... why are you doing it? 637 00:20:52,952 --> 00:20:56,152 You need to stop." 638 00:20:56,153 --> 00:20:57,152 Megan's mother was 639 00:20:57,153 --> 00:20:58,685 convinced that whatever happened 640 00:20:58,686 --> 00:21:00,286 to her daughter on long island 641 00:21:00,287 --> 00:21:01,818 had started a year earlier 642 00:21:01,819 --> 00:21:02,951 when she was approached 643 00:21:02,952 --> 00:21:04,419 in Portland, Maine, by a man 644 00:21:04,420 --> 00:21:06,453 from New York. 645 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,886 She met Akeem at a club 646 00:21:14,887 --> 00:21:17,553 in Portland. 647 00:21:17,554 --> 00:21:20,553 I think he stalked her 648 00:21:20,554 --> 00:21:22,188 for a while before he actually 649 00:21:22,189 --> 00:21:24,188 approached her, 650 00:21:24,189 --> 00:21:26,953 to see how she was. 651 00:21:26,954 --> 00:21:27,987 And I guess they started 652 00:21:27,988 --> 00:21:30,388 talking, and eventually, 653 00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:31,754 he told her that he knows how 654 00:21:31,755 --> 00:21:32,754 she can make some quick, 655 00:21:32,755 --> 00:21:36,189 fast money. 656 00:21:36,190 --> 00:21:37,355 So my daughter took him up 657 00:21:37,356 --> 00:21:39,390 on it. 658 00:21:46,323 --> 00:21:47,256 The night Megan 659 00:21:47,257 --> 00:21:48,689 disappeared on long island, 660 00:21:48,690 --> 00:21:50,223 she'd been an escort for just 661 00:21:50,224 --> 00:21:51,822 five months. 662 00:21:51,823 --> 00:21:53,390 Akeem, the man who may 663 00:21:53,391 --> 00:21:54,523 or may not have been her pimp, 664 00:21:54,524 --> 00:21:56,723 was with her. 665 00:21:56,724 --> 00:21:57,557 He was the one that reported 666 00:21:57,558 --> 00:21:59,290 her missing. 667 00:21:59,291 --> 00:22:00,656 Akeem contacted my mom. 668 00:22:00,657 --> 00:22:01,923 He's like, "I went out 669 00:22:01,924 --> 00:22:02,791 last night. 670 00:22:02,792 --> 00:22:03,791 Megan called me and told me 671 00:22:03,792 --> 00:22:05,391 that she was going down 672 00:22:05,392 --> 00:22:06,756 to the store, and that when she 673 00:22:06,757 --> 00:22:08,191 got back, she'd call me, 674 00:22:08,192 --> 00:22:09,557 and she never did." 675 00:22:09,558 --> 00:22:10,957 He went to the hotel 676 00:22:10,958 --> 00:22:11,858 and knocked on the door. 677 00:22:11,859 --> 00:22:13,724 Megan didn't answer. 678 00:22:13,725 --> 00:22:14,724 So they opened up the door, 679 00:22:14,725 --> 00:22:17,326 and Megan wasn't there. 680 00:22:21,426 --> 00:22:22,825 I knew that she was doing 681 00:22:22,826 --> 00:22:25,692 more than dancing, but I gave 682 00:22:25,693 --> 00:22:29,458 her the benefit of the doubt. 683 00:22:29,459 --> 00:22:31,858 She had also told me that akeem 684 00:22:31,859 --> 00:22:33,426 was in the bathroom with her. 685 00:22:33,427 --> 00:22:35,426 They had this sign that 686 00:22:35,427 --> 00:22:36,826 if she made some kind of noise, 687 00:22:36,827 --> 00:22:39,626 he'd come out and protect her. 688 00:22:39,627 --> 00:22:40,826 But I found out later on 689 00:22:40,827 --> 00:22:43,794 that he always left the room. 690 00:22:47,495 --> 00:22:48,993 At 1:30 A.M., 691 00:22:48,994 --> 00:22:50,527 Megan left her bag 692 00:22:50,528 --> 00:22:51,560 and possessions in the room 693 00:22:51,561 --> 00:22:52,228 and walked alone into 694 00:22:52,229 --> 00:22:54,527 the parking lot. 695 00:22:54,528 --> 00:22:55,694 If she had only stayed 696 00:22:55,695 --> 00:22:57,894 in the hotel room, she would 697 00:22:57,895 --> 00:22:59,928 be here today. 698 00:23:19,096 --> 00:23:20,396 We want to bring to justice 699 00:23:20,397 --> 00:23:23,596 this animal that has obviously 700 00:23:23,597 --> 00:23:24,762 taken the lives of a number 701 00:23:24,763 --> 00:23:26,563 of people. 702 00:23:26,564 --> 00:23:27,962 We encourage anyone that has 703 00:23:27,963 --> 00:23:29,363 any information to call 704 00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:32,197 our hotline. 705 00:23:32,198 --> 00:23:33,197 The first insights 706 00:23:33,198 --> 00:23:34,763 into the mind of the serial 707 00:23:34,764 --> 00:23:36,198 killer were now emerging 708 00:23:36,199 --> 00:23:37,198 from the investigation 709 00:23:37,199 --> 00:23:38,563 on long island. 710 00:23:38,564 --> 00:23:40,364 He'd hidden his four victims 711 00:23:40,365 --> 00:23:41,764 in a place which suggested 712 00:23:41,765 --> 00:23:43,364 he knew the area. 713 00:23:43,365 --> 00:23:45,198 It was perfectly chosen 714 00:23:45,199 --> 00:23:46,331 to make a forensic search 715 00:23:46,332 --> 00:23:50,199 almost impossible. 716 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,499 People don't walk that area. 717 00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:53,098 They don't walk their dogs. 718 00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:54,798 They don't walk across that area 719 00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:56,500 to go to the beach. 720 00:23:56,533 --> 00:23:59,098 And so the bodies could lie 721 00:23:59,099 --> 00:24:01,201 there without being discovered. 722 00:24:10,567 --> 00:24:12,066 We needed to get some resources 723 00:24:12,067 --> 00:24:15,400 High-rise buckets that 724 00:24:15,401 --> 00:24:17,334 can look down on the terrain. 725 00:24:17,335 --> 00:24:18,800 We got cadaver dogs. 726 00:24:18,801 --> 00:24:20,301 We got recruits from our 727 00:24:20,302 --> 00:24:21,701 police training bureau. 728 00:24:21,702 --> 00:24:23,701 And so we commenced 729 00:24:23,702 --> 00:24:25,501 a comprehensive search 730 00:24:25,502 --> 00:24:28,268 from one end of the beach area 731 00:24:28,269 --> 00:24:30,436 to the other. 732 00:24:33,068 --> 00:24:33,968 As that search 733 00:24:33,969 --> 00:24:35,768 got under way, another family 734 00:24:35,769 --> 00:24:38,968 contacted the police. 735 00:24:38,969 --> 00:24:40,968 Shannan Gilbert, it turned out, 736 00:24:40,969 --> 00:24:42,368 wasn't the only woman missing 737 00:24:42,369 --> 00:24:43,969 on long island. 738 00:24:44,003 --> 00:24:45,369 She'd disappeared seven months 739 00:24:45,370 --> 00:24:47,968 earlier, in may 2010. 740 00:24:47,969 --> 00:24:49,769 A month later, Megan waterman 741 00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:52,203 vanished from a nearby hotel. 742 00:24:52,204 --> 00:24:53,703 Now it emerged a third woman 743 00:24:53,704 --> 00:24:54,437 had been missing since 744 00:24:54,438 --> 00:24:56,836 September. 745 00:24:56,837 --> 00:25:01,437 Her name was Amber Costello. 746 00:25:01,438 --> 00:25:02,837 Someone calls me. 747 00:25:02,838 --> 00:25:04,437 And they were like, 748 00:25:04,438 --> 00:25:06,004 "have you heard from Amber?" 749 00:25:06,005 --> 00:25:08,738 And I said, "no, why?" 750 00:25:08,771 --> 00:25:09,738 They're like, "because four 751 00:25:09,738 --> 00:25:10,671 bodies have been found 752 00:25:10,705 --> 00:25:12,238 on Gilgo beach, and they 753 00:25:12,239 --> 00:25:13,438 believe, you know, that the 754 00:25:13,439 --> 00:25:16,239 girls worked on craigslist." 755 00:25:16,272 --> 00:25:18,238 Right then, I knew that one 756 00:25:18,239 --> 00:25:19,238 of those girls were gonna be 757 00:25:19,239 --> 00:25:21,239 my sister. 758 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,438 At the time of 759 00:25:22,439 --> 00:25:24,239 her disappearance, Amber was 760 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,871 living in a small town just 761 00:25:25,872 --> 00:25:27,339 seven miles north of the beach 762 00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:28,372 where the bodies were 763 00:25:28,373 --> 00:25:31,706 discovered. 764 00:25:31,707 --> 00:25:32,706 We had one rule in our 765 00:25:32,707 --> 00:25:35,506 Nobody fights alone. 766 00:25:35,507 --> 00:25:36,906 And that's just the way it is. 767 00:25:36,907 --> 00:25:38,906 So that's how it was 768 00:25:38,907 --> 00:25:40,940 with me and her. 769 00:25:44,274 --> 00:25:45,273 She was built like 770 00:25:45,274 --> 00:25:46,208 a brick house. 771 00:25:46,208 --> 00:25:47,008 She was short, 772 00:25:47,009 --> 00:25:49,407 but she was very curvy. 773 00:25:49,408 --> 00:25:51,007 She was a beautiful girl. 774 00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:51,841 She really was. 775 00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:53,641 She was a beautiful girl. 776 00:25:53,642 --> 00:25:56,241 And... 777 00:25:56,242 --> 00:25:58,441 She... she had a smile and a laugh 778 00:25:58,442 --> 00:25:59,641 that would just light up a room. 779 00:25:59,642 --> 00:26:00,475 It really would. 780 00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:01,508 I know everybody says that, 781 00:26:01,509 --> 00:26:02,343 but it really... it would make 782 00:26:02,343 --> 00:26:03,210 you laugh. 783 00:26:03,211 --> 00:26:04,210 She had this retarded laugh 784 00:26:04,211 --> 00:26:05,275 that when she started laughing, 785 00:26:05,276 --> 00:26:06,675 you would just laugh at her, 786 00:26:06,676 --> 00:26:08,074 because it was the most 787 00:26:08,075 --> 00:26:09,042 hideous-sounding thing 788 00:26:09,043 --> 00:26:10,842 you ever heard, you know? 789 00:26:10,843 --> 00:26:12,609 But it made other people laugh, 790 00:26:12,610 --> 00:26:15,810 and it was great. 791 00:26:18,544 --> 00:26:21,210 How it began was, she had a 792 00:26:21,211 --> 00:26:22,543 little job at the waffle house, 793 00:26:22,544 --> 00:26:24,210 you know, busting her tail 794 00:26:24,211 --> 00:26:25,610 for nothing, 795 00:26:25,611 --> 00:26:27,643 and she just wanted more, 796 00:26:27,644 --> 00:26:30,543 fast. 797 00:26:30,544 --> 00:26:32,810 And I had a friend in college 798 00:26:32,811 --> 00:26:34,477 who owned an escort agency. 799 00:26:34,478 --> 00:26:35,811 You know, she wanted me to 800 00:26:35,812 --> 00:26:37,211 answer phones for her. 801 00:26:37,212 --> 00:26:38,311 You know, here I am, 802 00:26:38,312 --> 00:26:39,377 hearing these girls talk about 803 00:26:39,378 --> 00:26:40,078 making all this money, 804 00:26:40,078 --> 00:26:41,012 some of them, $700, 805 00:26:41,013 --> 00:26:43,245 $900 an hour, and they're not 806 00:26:43,246 --> 00:26:44,677 having sex with these guys, 807 00:26:44,678 --> 00:26:46,478 and I'm like, "there's no way." 808 00:26:46,479 --> 00:26:47,678 So Tammy was like, "why don't 809 00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:49,111 you go on a call with someone? 810 00:26:49,112 --> 00:26:50,012 If you think you can do it, 811 00:26:50,012 --> 00:26:50,646 we'll set you up." 812 00:26:50,647 --> 00:26:52,012 And I went, and it was 813 00:26:52,013 --> 00:26:52,813 a bachelor party for 814 00:26:52,814 --> 00:26:54,213 a group of golfers 815 00:26:54,214 --> 00:26:56,012 at the Beau Rivage, 816 00:26:56,013 --> 00:26:57,213 and I started doing it, 817 00:26:57,214 --> 00:26:58,213 and I was good at it. 818 00:26:58,214 --> 00:27:00,945 I made a lot of money at it. 819 00:27:00,946 --> 00:27:02,045 Kim started working 820 00:27:02,046 --> 00:27:03,413 as a high-end escort for 821 00:27:03,414 --> 00:27:05,112 a licensed agency that took 822 00:27:05,113 --> 00:27:06,679 a percentage but screened 823 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,280 its clients and had strict 824 00:27:08,281 --> 00:27:09,646 safety measures. 825 00:27:09,647 --> 00:27:11,013 I had a little travel 826 00:27:11,014 --> 00:27:11,714 suitcase, little tinker bell 827 00:27:11,715 --> 00:27:13,547 suitcase, and it had my little 828 00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:14,515 black light that I would 829 00:27:14,516 --> 00:27:15,515 hook up. 830 00:27:15,515 --> 00:27:16,248 It had my CD player with 831 00:27:16,249 --> 00:27:18,214 my music CD. 832 00:27:18,215 --> 00:27:19,314 It was kind of like a show, 833 00:27:19,315 --> 00:27:20,215 you know? 834 00:27:20,216 --> 00:27:22,114 I had a routine. 835 00:27:22,115 --> 00:27:23,081 Amber would see me traveling. 836 00:27:23,081 --> 00:27:23,915 She'd see me making 837 00:27:23,916 --> 00:27:24,915 all this money. 838 00:27:24,916 --> 00:27:26,114 You know, I had a brand-new car. 839 00:27:26,115 --> 00:27:27,914 She was like, "screw this." 840 00:27:27,915 --> 00:27:28,914 You know, she was like, 841 00:27:28,915 --> 00:27:30,315 "I'm coming to work with you." 842 00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:31,881 And I'm like, "okay, come on." 843 00:27:31,882 --> 00:27:33,881 You know, join the train, 844 00:27:33,882 --> 00:27:34,749 you know? 845 00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:36,216 Thinking that it would never 846 00:27:36,217 --> 00:27:38,715 turn out the way it did. 847 00:27:38,716 --> 00:27:40,449 Amber decided 848 00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:42,282 to work out of long island 849 00:27:42,283 --> 00:27:44,081 and in march 2010, 850 00:27:44,082 --> 00:27:45,449 nine months before the bodies 851 00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:47,217 were found, moved to a town 852 00:27:47,218 --> 00:27:52,016 just north of oak beach. 853 00:27:52,017 --> 00:27:53,383 She also decided that 854 00:27:53,384 --> 00:27:54,483 in this quiet neighborhood, 855 00:27:54,484 --> 00:27:55,717 she'd work in a different way 856 00:27:55,718 --> 00:27:56,883 from her sister, 857 00:27:56,884 --> 00:27:58,250 cutting out an escort agency 858 00:27:58,251 --> 00:28:00,817 and posting her own ads 859 00:28:00,818 --> 00:28:02,717 on craigslist. 860 00:28:08,918 --> 00:28:09,819 We were coming back from 861 00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:10,919 the mall, you know, 862 00:28:10,952 --> 00:28:12,318 and Kim said to me, "well, 863 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:14,318 what would you think if we were 864 00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,119 doing escorts?" 865 00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:17,119 I said, "listen." 866 00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,219 I said, you know, "it's on you." 867 00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:20,084 I said, "but I'm not taking 868 00:28:20,085 --> 00:28:21,084 any money from you. 869 00:28:21,085 --> 00:28:22,485 I'm not answering any phones. 870 00:28:22,486 --> 00:28:23,885 I'm not arranging any dates." 871 00:28:23,886 --> 00:28:24,885 I said... you know, I said, 872 00:28:24,886 --> 00:28:25,885 "I'm not getting caught up 873 00:28:25,886 --> 00:28:27,885 in it, and, you know, like... 874 00:28:27,886 --> 00:28:29,085 Like I'm a pimp." 875 00:28:29,086 --> 00:28:30,220 She's like, "well, I'm gonna 876 00:28:30,221 --> 00:28:31,353 post on craigslist, you know. 877 00:28:31,354 --> 00:28:35,220 Would you mind posting with me?" 878 00:28:35,221 --> 00:28:37,220 I was like, "we'll try it. 879 00:28:37,221 --> 00:28:37,954 If you're doing it, 880 00:28:37,954 --> 00:28:38,787 I'm doing it." 881 00:28:38,788 --> 00:28:41,221 So here we go, 882 00:28:41,222 --> 00:28:42,221 taking our pictures. 883 00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:43,886 You know, not explicit. 884 00:28:43,887 --> 00:28:45,487 I was in jeans and a tank top, 885 00:28:45,488 --> 00:28:47,086 girl-next-door type. 886 00:28:47,087 --> 00:28:49,221 Her, pretty much the same thing. 887 00:28:49,222 --> 00:28:50,587 And we posted. 888 00:28:50,588 --> 00:28:51,555 They had their credit card. 889 00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:52,422 They went online. 890 00:28:52,423 --> 00:28:54,222 And here it is on craigslist, 891 00:28:54,223 --> 00:28:55,222 this whole section 892 00:28:55,223 --> 00:28:56,222 about escorts. 893 00:28:56,223 --> 00:28:57,222 And, you know, all it is 894 00:28:57,223 --> 00:28:58,854 is just ads for... you know, 895 00:28:58,855 --> 00:29:00,755 for prostitution. 896 00:29:00,756 --> 00:29:01,788 You know, so they pay, 897 00:29:01,789 --> 00:29:02,788 and they put this ad up. 898 00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:04,788 And I mean, they hit "enter" 899 00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:05,988 on the computer, and then... 900 00:29:07,056 --> 00:29:07,889 And lo and behold, 901 00:29:07,890 --> 00:29:08,889 within 20 minutes, 902 00:29:08,890 --> 00:29:12,088 it rang off the hook. 903 00:29:12,089 --> 00:29:13,922 I mean, I couldn't believe it. 904 00:29:13,923 --> 00:29:15,323 I was like, "holy." 905 00:29:15,324 --> 00:29:17,088 I said, "I can't even believe 906 00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:18,756 that it's this fast." 907 00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:19,756 I'm telling you, we probably 908 00:29:19,757 --> 00:29:22,556 made $3,000 that first week 909 00:29:22,557 --> 00:29:23,756 apiece. 910 00:29:23,757 --> 00:29:25,557 From that moment on, 911 00:29:25,558 --> 00:29:27,956 you know, it was engines on. 912 00:29:27,957 --> 00:29:29,757 You know, ground control 913 00:29:29,758 --> 00:29:31,557 to major Tom, you know? 914 00:29:31,558 --> 00:29:32,757 It's just... 915 00:29:32,758 --> 00:29:34,557 You know? 916 00:29:34,558 --> 00:29:36,924 I mean, the phone would ring 917 00:29:36,925 --> 00:29:38,124 1:00, 2:00, 3:00, 4:00, 918 00:29:38,125 --> 00:29:39,957 5:00, 6:00, 7:00, 8:00, 919 00:29:39,958 --> 00:29:41,791 all the way around the clock. 920 00:29:42,726 --> 00:29:43,559 It didn't matter. 921 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,692 It just... nonstop. 922 00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:50,227 There was one 923 00:29:50,228 --> 00:29:51,591 downside to the fast money of 924 00:29:51,592 --> 00:29:53,958 Amber's long island operation: 925 00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:56,226 The risks were high. 926 00:29:56,227 --> 00:29:57,359 In an escort agency, 927 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,592 the calls were screened 928 00:29:58,593 --> 00:29:59,859 and logged. 929 00:29:59,860 --> 00:30:00,727 If you didn't come back from 930 00:30:00,728 --> 00:30:02,126 a job, the police would be 931 00:30:02,127 --> 00:30:03,592 called in minutes. 932 00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:06,092 Here, Amber's only protection 933 00:30:06,093 --> 00:30:08,460 was her instincts. 934 00:30:08,461 --> 00:30:09,460 You got guys on there 935 00:30:09,461 --> 00:30:10,860 that don't want to pay $75. 936 00:30:10,861 --> 00:30:12,027 You know what I'm saying? 937 00:30:12,028 --> 00:30:13,027 And then you've got girls that 938 00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:14,627 will see guys for $75 on there, 939 00:30:14,628 --> 00:30:15,693 and I mean, I think that's 940 00:30:15,694 --> 00:30:16,561 ridiculous. 941 00:30:16,561 --> 00:30:17,429 You know what I'm saying? 942 00:30:17,429 --> 00:30:18,395 They'll do anything, 943 00:30:18,396 --> 00:30:19,395 and they'll meet up anywhere, 944 00:30:19,395 --> 00:30:20,262 and there's no restrictions. 945 00:30:20,263 --> 00:30:22,628 There's no rules. 946 00:30:22,629 --> 00:30:24,961 By September 2010, 947 00:30:24,962 --> 00:30:26,694 another factor was influencing 948 00:30:26,695 --> 00:30:28,661 Amber's judgment. 949 00:30:28,662 --> 00:30:30,061 She and her roommate 950 00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:32,430 were using heroin. 951 00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:39,829 At that point, she was taking 952 00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:40,730 calls that I would never 953 00:30:40,731 --> 00:30:41,829 have took. 954 00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:43,430 For Amber, at the end, 955 00:30:43,431 --> 00:30:46,396 it was keeping that high going. 956 00:30:46,397 --> 00:30:47,396 You know, she had to make 957 00:30:47,397 --> 00:30:49,396 that money. 958 00:30:49,397 --> 00:30:50,297 I thought, "damn. 959 00:30:50,297 --> 00:30:51,197 What did I do?" 960 00:30:51,198 --> 00:30:52,963 You know, what did I do? 961 00:30:52,964 --> 00:30:56,963 I really, you know, 962 00:30:56,964 --> 00:30:58,163 screwed her up, 963 00:30:58,164 --> 00:31:01,597 because unfortunately, 964 00:31:01,598 --> 00:31:02,797 it's not gonna go a good path 965 00:31:02,798 --> 00:31:03,797 for her, you know? 966 00:31:03,798 --> 00:31:04,632 It's not about the money 967 00:31:04,632 --> 00:31:05,432 anymore. 968 00:31:05,433 --> 00:31:06,831 It's about keeping that high 969 00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:08,998 going. 970 00:31:11,533 --> 00:31:13,097 On September 2nd, 971 00:31:13,098 --> 00:31:14,465 Amber went online 972 00:31:14,466 --> 00:31:16,598 and posted an ad on craigslist 973 00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:18,633 under her usual alias. 974 00:31:22,234 --> 00:31:23,233 I had talked to Amber 975 00:31:23,234 --> 00:31:24,033 that day. 976 00:31:24,034 --> 00:31:25,798 We talked every day. 977 00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:26,766 She said that this guy 978 00:31:26,766 --> 00:31:27,567 had called. 979 00:31:27,567 --> 00:31:28,367 She set up a call for 980 00:31:28,367 --> 00:31:29,234 later that night. 981 00:31:29,234 --> 00:31:30,033 It was for a couple hundred 982 00:31:30,034 --> 00:31:33,966 dollars. 983 00:31:33,967 --> 00:31:34,966 You know, he was a... 984 00:31:34,967 --> 00:31:38,666 You know, right away, he... 985 00:31:38,667 --> 00:31:39,799 You know, he asked her 986 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,600 about, you know, like... 987 00:31:43,601 --> 00:31:44,468 You know, "how much is it 988 00:31:44,468 --> 00:31:45,301 per hour?" 989 00:31:45,302 --> 00:31:46,700 You know, and, 990 00:31:46,701 --> 00:31:47,635 "well, what if I wanted 991 00:31:47,636 --> 00:31:48,834 to keep you for, you know... 992 00:31:48,835 --> 00:31:50,268 For the night?" 993 00:31:50,269 --> 00:31:52,668 He called her three times 994 00:31:52,669 --> 00:31:53,767 that day. 995 00:31:53,768 --> 00:31:54,967 You know, she just... 996 00:31:54,968 --> 00:31:56,100 The guy kept calling her, 997 00:31:56,101 --> 00:31:56,969 you know? 998 00:31:56,970 --> 00:31:58,235 And I kept hearing her, 999 00:31:58,236 --> 00:32:01,401 you know, like, hamming him up. 1000 00:32:01,402 --> 00:32:02,303 She gave him directions 1001 00:32:02,304 --> 00:32:03,901 on how to get to the house. 1002 00:32:03,902 --> 00:32:04,836 A few minutes after 10:00, 1003 00:32:04,837 --> 00:32:05,836 he called, and I guess that was 1004 00:32:05,836 --> 00:32:06,637 him telling her that 1005 00:32:06,638 --> 00:32:08,035 he's down there. 1006 00:32:08,036 --> 00:32:10,436 She was getting gussied up. 1007 00:32:10,437 --> 00:32:11,636 I'm like, "here's the 1008 00:32:11,637 --> 00:32:12,470 cell phone. 1009 00:32:12,471 --> 00:32:13,502 Take your cell phone." 1010 00:32:13,503 --> 00:32:14,702 She just said, "I'm not 1011 00:32:14,703 --> 00:32:16,869 gonna take it." 1012 00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:18,069 Everything was just completely 1013 00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:19,003 different than normal. 1014 00:32:19,003 --> 00:32:19,970 Normally, she would take this 1015 00:32:19,971 --> 00:32:21,237 and that, you know, her bag, 1016 00:32:21,238 --> 00:32:23,570 her... the cell phone. 1017 00:32:23,571 --> 00:32:27,370 Well, this time, she wasn't. 1018 00:32:27,371 --> 00:32:28,970 I walked her outside, you know, 1019 00:32:28,971 --> 00:32:32,070 and she walked down the block. 1020 00:32:32,071 --> 00:32:33,870 She... you know, and, you know, 1021 00:32:33,871 --> 00:32:35,003 that's it. 1022 00:32:35,004 --> 00:32:37,639 So I went back into the house. 1023 00:32:40,605 --> 00:32:41,604 God. 1024 00:32:41,605 --> 00:32:44,104 What did she go through? 1025 00:32:44,105 --> 00:32:46,939 What she must have went through. 1026 00:32:50,706 --> 00:32:51,673 I know she was probably 1027 00:32:51,673 --> 00:32:52,573 thinking, "god, I wish 1028 00:32:52,574 --> 00:32:53,573 Kim was here." 1029 00:32:53,574 --> 00:32:55,740 You know? 1030 00:33:02,874 --> 00:33:03,973 Like Megan, 1031 00:33:03,974 --> 00:33:05,240 Amber left without a bag 1032 00:33:05,241 --> 00:33:07,306 or her phone. 1033 00:33:07,307 --> 00:33:08,906 It suggested the man they drove 1034 00:33:08,907 --> 00:33:10,840 off with, the killer still at 1035 00:33:10,841 --> 00:33:12,740 large today, does not appear 1036 00:33:12,741 --> 00:33:13,806 out of the ordinary 1037 00:33:13,807 --> 00:33:15,274 or alarming. 1038 00:33:15,275 --> 00:33:16,474 He's a man people feel 1039 00:33:16,475 --> 00:33:18,508 comfortable with. 1040 00:33:25,309 --> 00:33:29,242 In December 2010, 1041 00:33:29,243 --> 00:33:30,708 two families were waiting 1042 00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:32,242 to hear if their daughter 1043 00:33:32,243 --> 00:33:33,542 and sister were among 1044 00:33:33,543 --> 00:33:34,409 the four victims 1045 00:33:34,409 --> 00:33:35,244 of the long island 1046 00:33:35,245 --> 00:33:37,742 serial killer. 1047 00:33:37,743 --> 00:33:38,742 From the time that they came 1048 00:33:38,743 --> 00:33:42,476 and did my DNA till the day that 1049 00:33:42,477 --> 00:33:43,476 the detectives were knocking 1050 00:33:43,477 --> 00:33:45,476 on my door, it was 1051 00:33:45,477 --> 00:33:48,476 the longest month of my life. 1052 00:33:48,477 --> 00:33:50,076 Each time, the questions 1053 00:33:50,077 --> 00:33:51,444 just got more intense: 1054 00:33:51,445 --> 00:33:54,377 Tattoos, describe to a tee, 1055 00:33:54,378 --> 00:33:57,244 jewelry, shoes, anything, 1056 00:33:57,245 --> 00:33:58,377 phone calls, friends, 1057 00:33:58,378 --> 00:33:59,345 people that they could be 1058 00:33:59,346 --> 00:34:01,478 in contact with. 1059 00:34:03,246 --> 00:34:03,978 The condition 1060 00:34:03,979 --> 00:34:05,511 the bodies were found in 1061 00:34:05,512 --> 00:34:06,412 meant the only way 1062 00:34:06,413 --> 00:34:07,778 to identify the victims 1063 00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:09,378 was by matching DNA 1064 00:34:09,379 --> 00:34:11,245 extracted from the bones 1065 00:34:11,246 --> 00:34:12,745 to the DNA of the women 1066 00:34:12,746 --> 00:34:14,779 waiting for news. 1067 00:34:18,447 --> 00:34:20,045 My son calls me up, 1068 00:34:20,046 --> 00:34:21,446 told me that the detectives 1069 00:34:21,447 --> 00:34:23,646 are on their way to my house. 1070 00:34:23,647 --> 00:34:24,646 And I don't even think 1071 00:34:24,647 --> 00:34:26,613 I was home five minutes, 1072 00:34:26,647 --> 00:34:27,480 and they were knocking 1073 00:34:27,481 --> 00:34:30,879 on my door. 1074 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,580 But I have to... 1075 00:34:34,248 --> 00:34:36,247 I got to give them all credit 1076 00:34:36,248 --> 00:34:40,980 for the way they did it. 1077 00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:47,381 'Cause Megan's DNA actually 1078 00:34:47,382 --> 00:34:50,249 came back on her birthday. 1079 00:34:58,849 --> 00:34:59,848 There was two detectives 1080 00:34:59,849 --> 00:35:00,750 there that told me that 1081 00:35:00,751 --> 00:35:02,014 my sister had positively 1082 00:35:02,015 --> 00:35:04,582 been identified... 1083 00:35:04,583 --> 00:35:07,982 Through DNA. 1084 00:35:07,983 --> 00:35:12,782 And, uh... 1085 00:35:12,783 --> 00:35:14,683 You know, I knew. 1086 00:35:14,684 --> 00:35:15,484 I had prepared myself 1087 00:35:15,484 --> 00:35:16,284 the whole time. 1088 00:35:16,285 --> 00:35:17,383 I knew. 1089 00:35:17,384 --> 00:35:18,616 But of course, the first 1090 00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:20,016 emotion is, like, 1091 00:35:20,017 --> 00:35:22,551 you just don't want to hear it. 1092 00:35:33,018 --> 00:35:34,017 In the early days 1093 00:35:34,018 --> 00:35:35,817 of the manhunt on long island, 1094 00:35:35,818 --> 00:35:38,318 the leads came rapidly. 1095 00:35:38,319 --> 00:35:40,618 Back in 2006, a serial killer 1096 00:35:40,619 --> 00:35:42,418 had murdered four sex workers 1097 00:35:42,419 --> 00:35:43,786 on the Jersey shore, 1098 00:35:43,819 --> 00:35:45,485 and the style of the killings 1099 00:35:45,486 --> 00:35:47,519 looked similar. 1100 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,852 They were strangled. 1101 00:35:53,853 --> 00:35:55,453 And they were dumped 1102 00:35:55,454 --> 00:35:57,819 in a drainage ditch. 1103 00:35:57,820 --> 00:36:00,519 So that became a focus. 1104 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,819 We're in touch with 1105 00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:02,853 police departments 1106 00:36:02,854 --> 00:36:04,254 throughout the country, 1107 00:36:04,255 --> 00:36:05,387 because we're aware 1108 00:36:05,388 --> 00:36:07,820 that serial killers cross 1109 00:36:07,821 --> 00:36:09,855 state lines. 1110 00:36:11,255 --> 00:36:12,121 On long island, 1111 00:36:12,122 --> 00:36:13,255 police were chasing down 1112 00:36:13,256 --> 00:36:14,554 other leads, looking 1113 00:36:14,555 --> 00:36:15,322 at every aspect 1114 00:36:15,322 --> 00:36:16,256 of the dead and missing 1115 00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:18,087 women's lives. 1116 00:36:18,088 --> 00:36:19,555 They seized a laptop 1117 00:36:19,556 --> 00:36:20,588 from the man with Megan 1118 00:36:20,589 --> 00:36:22,888 on the night she disappeared. 1119 00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:23,589 He was the one who called 1120 00:36:23,590 --> 00:36:24,721 her family to report her 1121 00:36:24,722 --> 00:36:25,755 missing from the long island 1122 00:36:25,756 --> 00:36:27,655 hotel. 1123 00:36:27,656 --> 00:36:28,721 Amber's clients in her 1124 00:36:28,722 --> 00:36:29,955 craigslist operation 1125 00:36:29,956 --> 00:36:31,821 were also being scrutinized. 1126 00:36:31,822 --> 00:36:33,021 And detectives came to talk 1127 00:36:33,022 --> 00:36:34,522 to the man who witnessed it 1128 00:36:34,523 --> 00:36:35,956 from the inside. 1129 00:36:35,957 --> 00:36:37,155 The police came a couple 1130 00:36:37,156 --> 00:36:38,522 times, you know, and questioned 1131 00:36:38,523 --> 00:36:40,122 me because it was my cell phone 1132 00:36:40,123 --> 00:36:41,323 that she was using. 1133 00:36:41,324 --> 00:36:42,722 I went over all the cell phone 1134 00:36:42,723 --> 00:36:43,690 records and text messages 1135 00:36:43,691 --> 00:36:44,989 with them in depth. 1136 00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:48,623 You know, who was the regulars? 1137 00:36:48,624 --> 00:36:49,623 If there was anybody whom 1138 00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:50,623 I thought was, you know, 1139 00:36:50,624 --> 00:36:51,623 strange. 1140 00:36:51,624 --> 00:36:52,291 The shock 1141 00:36:52,292 --> 00:36:53,390 of Amber's death had helped 1142 00:36:53,391 --> 00:36:55,123 her roommate kick his drug habit 1143 00:36:55,124 --> 00:36:56,890 and start to get clean. 1144 00:36:56,891 --> 00:36:57,890 You know, they kept coming, 1145 00:36:57,891 --> 00:36:59,391 asking me questions. 1146 00:36:59,392 --> 00:37:00,791 I was only a couple months sober 1147 00:37:00,792 --> 00:37:01,692 at that point, 1148 00:37:01,725 --> 00:37:03,258 so everything wasn't 1149 00:37:03,259 --> 00:37:04,524 100% back together 1150 00:37:04,525 --> 00:37:06,324 in my head yet. 1151 00:37:06,325 --> 00:37:07,293 Shannan Gilbert's 1152 00:37:07,294 --> 00:37:08,325 disappearance sparked 1153 00:37:08,326 --> 00:37:09,691 the search that uncovered 1154 00:37:09,692 --> 00:37:10,859 the bodies. 1155 00:37:10,892 --> 00:37:11,991 She was still missing, 1156 00:37:11,992 --> 00:37:12,925 and her boyfriend 1157 00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:14,625 in Jersey city was convinced 1158 00:37:14,626 --> 00:37:15,526 the police had been 1159 00:37:15,527 --> 00:37:18,625 monitoring his phone. 1160 00:37:18,626 --> 00:37:19,493 Me being her boyfriend, 1161 00:37:19,494 --> 00:37:20,493 I lived with her. 1162 00:37:20,494 --> 00:37:22,360 I would say, from the day 1163 00:37:22,361 --> 00:37:23,393 she went missing, I would say 1164 00:37:23,394 --> 00:37:25,360 I was probably, yeah, 1165 00:37:25,361 --> 00:37:26,726 phone tapped. 1166 00:37:26,727 --> 00:37:28,293 Anybody involved, if they knew 1167 00:37:28,294 --> 00:37:29,261 her very well, they were 1168 00:37:29,262 --> 00:37:30,661 probably part of the... 1169 00:37:30,694 --> 00:37:32,660 Part of the whole circle being 1170 00:37:32,661 --> 00:37:35,061 tapped and stuff like that. 1171 00:37:36,362 --> 00:37:37,061 Soon after 1172 00:37:37,062 --> 00:37:38,327 the bodies were discovered, 1173 00:37:38,328 --> 00:37:39,694 police returned to oak beach 1174 00:37:39,695 --> 00:37:41,827 to re-interview Joseph brewer, 1175 00:37:41,828 --> 00:37:42,795 one of the last people 1176 00:37:42,796 --> 00:37:43,894 to see Shannan alive. 1177 00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:47,295 Mr. Brewer voluntarily 1178 00:37:47,296 --> 00:37:48,694 consented to being interviewed 1179 00:37:48,695 --> 00:37:50,161 by us. 1180 00:37:50,162 --> 00:37:51,362 He's been most cooperative, 1181 00:37:51,363 --> 00:37:53,262 and we appreciate his help 1182 00:37:53,263 --> 00:37:54,062 in this matter. 1183 00:37:54,062 --> 00:37:54,962 What about the spotlight 1184 00:37:54,962 --> 00:37:55,829 that you've been cast in 1185 00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:56,829 for the media and... 1186 00:37:56,829 --> 00:37:57,663 I'm not the victim. 1187 00:37:57,663 --> 00:37:58,596 I don't... you know, I feel bad 1188 00:37:58,596 --> 00:37:59,429 for them. 1189 00:37:59,430 --> 00:38:00,429 You know, they're without their 1190 00:38:00,429 --> 00:38:01,330 children on Christmas, and I 1191 00:38:01,330 --> 00:38:02,129 hope the best for them. 1192 00:38:02,129 --> 00:38:03,063 What about your reputation? 1193 00:38:03,064 --> 00:38:04,063 You know, I'll have to live 1194 00:38:04,064 --> 00:38:05,463 with that. 1195 00:38:05,464 --> 00:38:06,264 Brewer was not 1196 00:38:06,265 --> 00:38:08,496 a suspect. 1197 00:38:08,497 --> 00:38:09,663 Detectives had also questioned 1198 00:38:09,664 --> 00:38:12,163 Michael pak, Shannan's driver. 1199 00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,029 I took a polygraph. 1200 00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:16,563 I passed with flying colors. 1201 00:38:16,564 --> 00:38:17,531 He grilled me. 1202 00:38:17,532 --> 00:38:18,541 He was saying things like, 1203 00:38:18,565 --> 00:38:20,330 you know, "oh, you know, 1204 00:38:20,331 --> 00:38:21,265 I know it could have been 1205 00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:22,265 an accident, you know? 1206 00:38:22,265 --> 00:38:23,064 It's okay, you know, 1207 00:38:23,065 --> 00:38:24,129 if something happened. 1208 00:38:24,130 --> 00:38:25,530 And then "...You know," and then 1209 00:38:25,531 --> 00:38:26,498 something happened by accident." 1210 00:38:26,531 --> 00:38:27,365 I was like, "yeah, 1211 00:38:27,365 --> 00:38:28,266 but it didn't happen. 1212 00:38:28,266 --> 00:38:29,031 You know, the last time 1213 00:38:29,031 --> 00:38:29,831 I saw her, she was alive, 1214 00:38:29,832 --> 00:38:31,830 and, you know, she was running." 1215 00:38:31,831 --> 00:38:33,265 Police said pak 1216 00:38:33,266 --> 00:38:35,398 was also not a suspect, 1217 00:38:35,399 --> 00:38:36,465 which left Shannan Gilbert's 1218 00:38:36,466 --> 00:38:37,798 mother asking, 1219 00:38:37,799 --> 00:38:40,365 if it isn't them, who is it? 1220 00:38:40,366 --> 00:38:42,165 She felt sure that oak beach, 1221 00:38:42,166 --> 00:38:43,532 where her daughter vanished, 1222 00:38:43,533 --> 00:38:47,399 held the answer. 1223 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,998 I'm very interested with 1224 00:38:48,999 --> 00:38:51,099 people in the community. 1225 00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,099 There is where my daughter 1226 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,300 disappeared. 1227 00:38:54,301 --> 00:38:57,500 I've paid for a couple of sites 1228 00:38:57,501 --> 00:38:59,433 that you can acquire information 1229 00:38:59,434 --> 00:39:00,733 on people. 1230 00:39:00,734 --> 00:39:01,800 I mean, it's amazing 1231 00:39:01,801 --> 00:39:03,933 what 10 bucks will buy you. 1232 00:39:03,934 --> 00:39:04,734 Nothing is sacred, 1233 00:39:04,735 --> 00:39:06,000 no one is private. 1234 00:39:06,001 --> 00:39:09,568 It's out there. 1235 00:39:09,601 --> 00:39:10,569 I took one computer course 1236 00:39:10,570 --> 00:39:12,767 in college, but it really just 1237 00:39:12,768 --> 00:39:14,568 taught you the basics. 1238 00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:17,968 But it's like, the more you 1239 00:39:17,969 --> 00:39:20,568 find, the more you know 1240 00:39:20,569 --> 00:39:22,968 that's out there to find, 1241 00:39:22,969 --> 00:39:24,168 so it's kind of like 1242 00:39:24,169 --> 00:39:26,270 an addiction. 1243 00:39:28,270 --> 00:39:29,135 The other families 1244 00:39:29,136 --> 00:39:31,269 were chasing their own leads, 1245 00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:32,269 investigating anything 1246 00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:33,469 that might shed light 1247 00:39:33,470 --> 00:39:34,635 on the night each woman 1248 00:39:34,636 --> 00:39:37,869 met her killer. 1249 00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:38,869 I logged back into 1250 00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:40,069 craigslist. 1251 00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:42,069 When somebody logs in to answer 1252 00:39:42,070 --> 00:39:43,470 an ad, they have an I.P.S. 1253 00:39:43,471 --> 00:39:44,870 Address that craigslist 1254 00:39:44,871 --> 00:39:47,470 actually keeps. 1255 00:39:47,471 --> 00:39:49,070 I started punching in 1256 00:39:49,071 --> 00:39:51,272 "Gilgo beach," "oak beach," 1257 00:39:51,305 --> 00:39:52,272 just to see what kind of people 1258 00:39:52,273 --> 00:39:53,870 were out there, because I want 1259 00:39:53,871 --> 00:39:56,537 to know, who did she go to meet 1260 00:39:56,538 --> 00:39:58,337 at 1:30 in the morning 1261 00:39:58,338 --> 00:39:59,138 the morning that 1262 00:39:59,139 --> 00:40:01,204 she disappeared? 1263 00:40:01,205 --> 00:40:01,273 She disappeared? Me and Megan both 1264 00:40:01,274 --> 00:40:03,971 me and Megan both 1265 00:40:03,972 --> 00:40:05,572 are afraid of the dark. 1266 00:40:05,573 --> 00:40:07,772 Megan would not walk across 1267 00:40:07,773 --> 00:40:09,572 a street by herself 1268 00:40:09,573 --> 00:40:13,505 if it was dark out. 1269 00:40:13,506 --> 00:40:14,872 So for her not to take her 1270 00:40:14,873 --> 00:40:17,105 cell phone or her pocketbook, 1271 00:40:17,106 --> 00:40:18,105 she had to have known this 1272 00:40:18,106 --> 00:40:22,506 person that picked her up. 1273 00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:23,706 Immediately after, I was 1274 00:40:23,707 --> 00:40:25,306 super detective, you know? 1275 00:40:25,307 --> 00:40:26,706 I was going back through 1276 00:40:26,707 --> 00:40:27,507 my books, my records, 1277 00:40:27,508 --> 00:40:29,173 my phone logs. 1278 00:40:29,174 --> 00:40:31,440 Anybody that would stand out 1279 00:40:31,441 --> 00:40:32,375 to me that I thought that 1280 00:40:32,376 --> 00:40:33,774 maybe I did see him. 1281 00:40:33,775 --> 00:40:36,774 Maybe I seen him. 1282 00:40:36,775 --> 00:40:37,708 Then it got to the point where 1283 00:40:37,709 --> 00:40:38,708 I'm just, like, so intrigued. 1284 00:40:38,709 --> 00:40:40,407 I want to know, why did he 1285 00:40:40,408 --> 00:40:42,807 choose Amber over someone else? 1286 00:40:42,808 --> 00:40:45,608 And how did he do it? 1287 00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:46,808 Like, you know, what did he 1288 00:40:46,809 --> 00:40:51,008 lure her with exactly? 1289 00:40:51,009 --> 00:40:52,208 That killer has 1290 00:40:52,209 --> 00:40:53,608 taken one very surprising 1291 00:40:53,609 --> 00:40:55,608 and public risk. 1292 00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:56,975 From the heart of Manhattan, 1293 00:40:56,976 --> 00:40:58,741 he made contact with a victim's 1294 00:40:58,742 --> 00:41:00,777 family. 1295 00:41:10,444 --> 00:41:13,377 In December 2010, 1296 00:41:13,378 --> 00:41:14,777 as the hunt for the long island 1297 00:41:14,778 --> 00:41:16,343 killer continued, 1298 00:41:16,344 --> 00:41:18,510 one incident became a focus. 1299 00:41:18,511 --> 00:41:19,478 It happened just after 1300 00:41:19,479 --> 00:41:20,743 one of his victims went 1301 00:41:20,744 --> 00:41:22,177 missing. 1302 00:41:22,178 --> 00:41:23,910 Three women had disappeared in 1303 00:41:23,911 --> 00:41:25,943 long island in 2010. 1304 00:41:25,944 --> 00:41:26,977 There was still no trace 1305 00:41:26,978 --> 00:41:28,478 of Shannan Gilbert. 1306 00:41:28,479 --> 00:41:29,744 Megan waterman was confirmed 1307 00:41:29,745 --> 00:41:30,878 among the dead, 1308 00:41:30,879 --> 00:41:33,478 and so was Amber Costello. 1309 00:41:33,479 --> 00:41:34,346 The third victim, 1310 00:41:34,347 --> 00:41:35,711 discovered beside them, 1311 00:41:35,712 --> 00:41:38,045 was Melissa Barthelemy. 1312 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:39,144 She had vanished one year 1313 00:41:39,145 --> 00:41:41,312 earlier, in 2009, 1314 00:41:41,313 --> 00:41:42,512 and something about her 1315 00:41:42,513 --> 00:41:43,579 made the killer take 1316 00:41:43,580 --> 00:41:45,613 an extraordinary risk. 1317 00:41:56,146 --> 00:41:57,546 A few days went by, 1318 00:41:57,547 --> 00:41:59,780 and there were no phone calls 1319 00:41:59,781 --> 00:42:02,447 from her, and it just wasn't 1320 00:42:02,448 --> 00:42:07,315 like her. 1321 00:42:07,348 --> 00:42:09,113 Her boyfriend called me 1322 00:42:09,114 --> 00:42:10,514 and said, "I haven't heard 1323 00:42:10,515 --> 00:42:11,514 from Melissa. 1324 00:42:11,515 --> 00:42:12,514 Have you heard from her?" 1325 00:42:12,515 --> 00:42:13,482 And I said, "no, I've been 1326 00:42:13,483 --> 00:42:16,881 trying to contact her." 1327 00:42:16,882 --> 00:42:17,881 I actually started 1328 00:42:17,882 --> 00:42:19,882 calling hospitals, jails. 1329 00:42:19,915 --> 00:42:21,682 I got ahold of an attorney 1330 00:42:21,683 --> 00:42:23,282 in New York City, and he even 1331 00:42:23,283 --> 00:42:24,848 did a little investigation, 1332 00:42:24,849 --> 00:42:26,448 and nobody knew where Melissa 1333 00:42:26,449 --> 00:42:27,649 Barthelemy was. 1334 00:42:27,683 --> 00:42:29,949 It was like she vanished. 1335 00:42:34,949 --> 00:42:36,749 She was so feisty, 1336 00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:38,516 and she used to do crazy things 1337 00:42:38,517 --> 00:42:41,116 even when she was real small. 1338 00:42:41,117 --> 00:42:44,116 She had a pet rabbit. 1339 00:42:44,117 --> 00:42:45,284 If we had the camera out, 1340 00:42:45,285 --> 00:42:46,484 she would climb inside the cage 1341 00:42:46,485 --> 00:42:47,484 so you could take a picture 1342 00:42:47,485 --> 00:42:49,049 of her in the cage. 1343 00:42:52,051 --> 00:42:56,984 She was quite silly. 1344 00:42:56,985 --> 00:42:58,784 After Melissa graduated from 1345 00:42:58,785 --> 00:43:00,785 high school, she went to 1346 00:43:00,786 --> 00:43:02,685 beauty school, and, boy, 1347 00:43:02,686 --> 00:43:04,184 every day, you never knew 1348 00:43:04,185 --> 00:43:04,952 what color her hair 1349 00:43:04,953 --> 00:43:06,085 was gonna be. 1350 00:43:06,086 --> 00:43:07,485 Some days it was platinum 1351 00:43:07,486 --> 00:43:08,420 blonde. 1352 00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:09,287 The next day, it would be 1353 00:43:09,288 --> 00:43:12,085 bright red. 1354 00:43:12,086 --> 00:43:12,886 Melissa had 1355 00:43:12,887 --> 00:43:13,886 a younger sister she was 1356 00:43:13,887 --> 00:43:15,652 very close to. 1357 00:43:15,653 --> 00:43:16,553 For this interview, Amanda 1358 00:43:16,554 --> 00:43:20,320 asked us to hide her identity. 1359 00:43:20,321 --> 00:43:21,320 She was very protective 1360 00:43:21,321 --> 00:43:23,320 of me, so anything I did, 1361 00:43:23,321 --> 00:43:24,320 she's like, "no, 1362 00:43:24,321 --> 00:43:25,187 you can't go there." 1363 00:43:25,187 --> 00:43:26,120 Or, "no, you're not leaving 1364 00:43:26,121 --> 00:43:28,287 by yourself." 1365 00:43:28,288 --> 00:43:30,119 She's just all of a sudden, 1366 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,021 "oh, I'm gonna move to 1367 00:43:31,021 --> 00:43:31,821 New York." 1368 00:43:31,822 --> 00:43:33,020 And I'm like, 1369 00:43:33,021 --> 00:43:34,288 "don't leave me here." 1370 00:43:43,289 --> 00:43:44,588 She wanted to go to New York 1371 00:43:44,589 --> 00:43:46,988 to earn enough money, come home, 1372 00:43:46,989 --> 00:43:49,588 open a salon, and buy herself 1373 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:51,555 a home. 1374 00:43:51,556 --> 00:43:53,555 I didn't like it. 1375 00:43:53,556 --> 00:43:54,955 I just don't think she should go 1376 00:43:54,956 --> 00:43:56,555 to a big city like that alone. 1377 00:43:56,556 --> 00:43:59,489 They're gonna eat her up there. 1378 00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:00,889 I just... I had a... 1379 00:44:00,890 --> 00:44:04,889 Not a bad feeling, but I... 1380 00:44:04,890 --> 00:44:07,989 I was terrified. 1381 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:08,657 My little girl, 1382 00:44:08,658 --> 00:44:10,423 but she was a grown woman 1383 00:44:10,424 --> 00:44:11,423 at that point, and I had 1384 00:44:11,424 --> 00:44:14,291 to let her go. 1385 00:44:14,292 --> 00:44:15,291 Melissa settled 1386 00:44:15,292 --> 00:44:16,124 in the Bronx, where rent 1387 00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:17,324 was cheap, and got a job 1388 00:44:17,325 --> 00:44:18,923 at a hairdresser. 1389 00:44:18,924 --> 00:44:20,123 Her sister, Amanda, would come 1390 00:44:20,124 --> 00:44:22,591 down to visit her, and at first, 1391 00:44:22,592 --> 00:44:24,657 she seemed out of danger. 1392 00:44:24,658 --> 00:44:26,391 We went for pedicures, 1393 00:44:26,392 --> 00:44:27,591 and she'd take me school clothes 1394 00:44:27,592 --> 00:44:30,392 shopping and go to the movies. 1395 00:44:30,393 --> 00:44:33,392 Just sister bonding stuff. 1396 00:44:33,393 --> 00:44:34,392 Then 12 months 1397 00:44:34,393 --> 00:44:35,925 after she arrived in the city, 1398 00:44:35,926 --> 00:44:37,392 the news coming home began 1399 00:44:37,393 --> 00:44:39,759 to change. 1400 00:44:44,627 --> 00:44:45,992 She stopped working at 1401 00:44:45,993 --> 00:44:47,192 the hair salon, and she told me 1402 00:44:47,193 --> 00:44:48,393 that she was working in 1403 00:44:48,394 --> 00:44:50,693 a topless nightclub. 1404 00:44:50,694 --> 00:44:52,693 She's like, "mom, don't worry. 1405 00:44:52,694 --> 00:44:55,494 You know, this is a new era. 1406 00:44:55,495 --> 00:44:56,893 People do this all the time to 1407 00:44:56,894 --> 00:44:58,294 put their self through school. 1408 00:44:58,295 --> 00:45:00,694 It's good money." 1409 00:45:00,695 --> 00:45:02,159 So... 1410 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,295 And again, what was I to do? 1411 00:45:06,161 --> 00:45:07,560 The last time she was here, 1412 00:45:07,561 --> 00:45:10,595 it was around Christmas, 1413 00:45:10,596 --> 00:45:12,395 and something was wrong 1414 00:45:12,396 --> 00:45:13,395 with her. 1415 00:45:13,396 --> 00:45:14,395 I don't know what it was. 1416 00:45:14,396 --> 00:45:15,561 She kept cuddling with me 1417 00:45:15,562 --> 00:45:16,895 and talking to me. 1418 00:45:16,896 --> 00:45:17,895 And I was trying to get out 1419 00:45:17,896 --> 00:45:18,895 of her, "Melissa, what's 1420 00:45:18,896 --> 00:45:19,796 the matter?" 1421 00:45:19,797 --> 00:45:20,995 And she was like, "nothing. 1422 00:45:20,996 --> 00:45:22,195 I'm just getting a little sick 1423 00:45:22,196 --> 00:45:23,761 of New York, but I have to make 1424 00:45:23,762 --> 00:45:26,161 some more money, and maybe in 1425 00:45:26,162 --> 00:45:27,161 another year or two, 1426 00:45:27,162 --> 00:45:29,763 I'll come back." 1427 00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:33,896 The summer after 1428 00:45:33,897 --> 00:45:35,629 that last visit home, 1429 00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:36,498 Melissa disappeared 1430 00:45:36,499 --> 00:45:37,962 from the Bronx. 1431 00:45:37,963 --> 00:45:39,763 On July 9, 2009, 1432 00:45:39,764 --> 00:45:40,698 she left her apartment 1433 00:45:40,699 --> 00:45:41,997 on Underhill Avenue, 1434 00:45:41,998 --> 00:45:43,663 deposited $900 in her 1435 00:45:43,664 --> 00:45:45,297 bank account, and told 1436 00:45:45,298 --> 00:45:46,397 her boyfriend she might 1437 00:45:46,398 --> 00:45:48,663 head out to long island. 1438 00:45:48,664 --> 00:45:50,831 Then she vanished. 1439 00:45:59,699 --> 00:46:01,131 We knew that Melissa had been 1440 00:46:01,132 --> 00:46:02,198 in telephone contact with her 1441 00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:04,600 sister, Amanda. 1442 00:46:04,633 --> 00:46:05,798 And little bits and pieces 1443 00:46:05,799 --> 00:46:07,998 began to emerge that the family 1444 00:46:07,999 --> 00:46:09,399 didn't know about and didn't 1445 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,133 make very much sense. 1446 00:46:12,166 --> 00:46:14,599 The police said, 1447 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,899 "talk to the sister." 1448 00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:19,099 Well, Lynn questioned Amanda, 1449 00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:20,199 and Amanda broke down crying, 1450 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,400 and she said, "mom, Melissa 1451 00:46:22,401 --> 00:46:24,800 confided in me some things that 1452 00:46:24,801 --> 00:46:26,600 I'm not supposed to tell you." 1453 00:46:26,601 --> 00:46:30,000 And Amanda, all of a sudden, 1454 00:46:30,001 --> 00:46:32,567 presented a fact pattern that 1455 00:46:32,568 --> 00:46:34,935 was positively frightening. 1456 00:46:39,002 --> 00:46:39,735 Melissa told 1457 00:46:39,736 --> 00:46:40,801 her parents she'd started 1458 00:46:40,802 --> 00:46:42,834 working in a topless bar. 1459 00:46:42,835 --> 00:46:43,768 She told her sister 1460 00:46:43,769 --> 00:46:45,568 a little more. 1461 00:46:45,569 --> 00:46:47,535 The truth was, like Megan 1462 00:46:47,536 --> 00:46:48,768 in Portland, Maine, 1463 00:46:48,769 --> 00:46:52,368 Melissa was being recruited. 1464 00:46:52,369 --> 00:46:53,568 I didn't fully understand 1465 00:46:53,569 --> 00:46:54,768 then. 1466 00:46:54,769 --> 00:46:56,536 I think she was just struggling 1467 00:46:56,537 --> 00:46:57,437 on money, and she was kind of 1468 00:46:57,438 --> 00:46:59,470 pushed to do it. 1469 00:47:02,937 --> 00:47:04,336 So she met this really great 1470 00:47:04,337 --> 00:47:06,337 guy, who told her that, 1471 00:47:06,338 --> 00:47:07,305 "if you want to make some 1472 00:47:07,306 --> 00:47:09,669 additional money, you can 1473 00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:11,437 attend a party." 1474 00:47:11,438 --> 00:47:13,304 She wasn't, like, clear about 1475 00:47:13,305 --> 00:47:14,970 everything she would tell me. 1476 00:47:14,971 --> 00:47:15,905 Sometimes she'd say 1477 00:47:15,906 --> 00:47:17,070 she was struggling. 1478 00:47:17,071 --> 00:47:18,870 Now she's told by the same 1479 00:47:18,871 --> 00:47:20,305 guy, "look, you can make 1480 00:47:20,306 --> 00:47:21,870 more money if you become 1481 00:47:21,871 --> 00:47:22,805 a little more active at 1482 00:47:22,806 --> 00:47:24,305 these parties. 1483 00:47:24,306 --> 00:47:25,837 And you don't have to do 1484 00:47:25,838 --> 00:47:26,806 anything with anyone 1485 00:47:26,807 --> 00:47:30,638 you don't want to do." 1486 00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,038 I kind of overheard things. 1487 00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:34,439 People posting stuff on 1488 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,138 craigslist and seeing other 1489 00:47:36,139 --> 00:47:37,938 people's posts; Kind of put 1490 00:47:37,939 --> 00:47:40,873 the pieces together. 1491 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,939 Melissa was actually working 1492 00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:48,572 with this guy who was setting up 1493 00:47:48,573 --> 00:47:50,772 dates for her and working off 1494 00:47:50,773 --> 00:47:52,507 craigslist. 1495 00:47:52,508 --> 00:47:54,307 She told us he was her 1496 00:47:54,308 --> 00:47:57,073 boyfriend, but he was her pimp. 1497 00:47:57,074 --> 00:47:58,473 He actually put her 1498 00:47:58,474 --> 00:48:00,308 in the hospital three times. 1499 00:48:00,309 --> 00:48:01,540 She had head trauma. 1500 00:48:01,541 --> 00:48:04,341 He collapsed her lungs. 1501 00:48:04,342 --> 00:48:05,940 But we knew none of this, 1502 00:48:05,941 --> 00:48:08,108 and she hid it all from us. 1503 00:48:10,442 --> 00:48:11,309 Her family was 1504 00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:12,808 more fearful than ever 1505 00:48:12,809 --> 00:48:13,874 and turned to the police 1506 00:48:13,875 --> 00:48:16,310 to report Melissa missing. 1507 00:48:19,676 --> 00:48:21,542 I called the 43rd precinct, 1508 00:48:21,543 --> 00:48:22,542 and I was telling her, 1509 00:48:22,543 --> 00:48:23,542 "our daughter hasn't answered 1510 00:48:23,543 --> 00:48:25,542 her phone in three days, 1511 00:48:25,543 --> 00:48:27,042 and we speak to her daily." 1512 00:48:27,043 --> 00:48:29,042 And we just knew that something 1513 00:48:29,043 --> 00:48:30,310 was wrong. 1514 00:48:30,311 --> 00:48:32,042 She hung up on me. 1515 00:48:32,043 --> 00:48:33,643 We couldn't even get past 1516 00:48:33,644 --> 00:48:35,310 the desk sergeant. 1517 00:48:35,311 --> 00:48:37,443 The lady that answered the phone 1518 00:48:37,444 --> 00:48:39,443 three days in a row wouldn't 1519 00:48:39,444 --> 00:48:42,511 even take my daughter's name. 1520 00:48:42,512 --> 00:48:43,511 The family asked 1521 00:48:43,512 --> 00:48:45,043 to a local lawyer in buffalo 1522 00:48:45,044 --> 00:48:46,311 for help. 1523 00:48:46,312 --> 00:48:47,844 It seemed simple enough, 1524 00:48:47,845 --> 00:48:49,444 so I got on the phone to compel 1525 00:48:49,445 --> 00:48:51,411 the NYPD to take a missing 1526 00:48:51,412 --> 00:48:54,211 persons report. 1527 00:48:54,212 --> 00:48:56,378 They told me that they don't 1528 00:48:56,379 --> 00:48:57,777 take missing persons reports 1529 00:48:57,778 --> 00:48:59,578 for prostitutes unless they've 1530 00:48:59,579 --> 00:49:02,845 been missing for ten days. 1531 00:49:02,846 --> 00:49:04,412 Seven days after 1532 00:49:04,413 --> 00:49:05,645 Melissa's disappearance, 1533 00:49:05,646 --> 00:49:06,645 when the police were still 1534 00:49:06,646 --> 00:49:07,845 refusing to take a missing 1535 00:49:07,846 --> 00:49:09,645 person report, something 1536 00:49:09,646 --> 00:49:11,379 happened to suggest Melissa 1537 00:49:11,380 --> 00:49:12,978 was in the hands of the killer 1538 00:49:12,979 --> 00:49:16,646 and possibly still alive. 1539 00:49:16,647 --> 00:49:17,614 We were hoping someday 1540 00:49:17,615 --> 00:49:20,013 she'd call us. 1541 00:49:20,014 --> 00:49:22,613 And then her little sister got 1542 00:49:22,614 --> 00:49:27,013 a phone call. 1543 00:49:27,014 --> 00:49:28,980 I was with my cousin, 1544 00:49:28,981 --> 00:49:30,114 and we were at her house 1545 00:49:30,115 --> 00:49:31,480 just watching TV, and all of 1546 00:49:31,481 --> 00:49:34,315 a sudden, my phone rings. 1547 00:49:34,316 --> 00:49:35,315 I look at it, and it says 1548 00:49:35,316 --> 00:49:36,880 "Melissa," so I was like, 1549 00:49:36,881 --> 00:49:40,315 "thank god." 1550 00:49:40,316 --> 00:49:41,315 Amanda's like, "wow, 1551 00:49:41,316 --> 00:49:42,681 oh, my god, it's Melissa." 1552 00:49:42,682 --> 00:49:43,881 And she answers the phone, 1553 00:49:43,882 --> 00:49:45,081 and there's a guy on the other 1554 00:49:45,082 --> 00:49:47,881 end, and she's like, 1555 00:49:47,882 --> 00:49:49,081 "where is my sister? 1556 00:49:49,082 --> 00:49:52,948 Who is this?" 1557 00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:55,549 He was just very calm. 1558 00:49:55,550 --> 00:49:57,316 He was in control. 1559 00:49:57,317 --> 00:49:58,682 There was nothing I could do 1560 00:49:58,683 --> 00:50:01,016 about it. 1561 00:50:01,017 --> 00:50:02,816 Amanda said that he sounded 1562 00:50:02,817 --> 00:50:04,417 like he was white, and he 1563 00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:06,417 sounded like he was middle-aged. 1564 00:50:06,418 --> 00:50:07,817 She would ask him a question. 1565 00:50:07,818 --> 00:50:10,683 He would answer back. 1566 00:50:10,684 --> 00:50:12,483 He knew what he was doing. 1567 00:50:12,484 --> 00:50:14,851 He did it the way he wanted to. 1568 00:50:20,151 --> 00:50:20,952 It wasn't until 1569 00:50:20,953 --> 00:50:22,384 the third call that police 1570 00:50:22,385 --> 00:50:24,784 were tracing the signal. 1571 00:50:24,785 --> 00:50:27,651 It was coming from Manhattan. 1572 00:50:27,652 --> 00:50:28,851 He was speaking to Amanda 1573 00:50:28,852 --> 00:50:30,118 from one of the most crowded 1574 00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:31,685 places in the country, 1575 00:50:31,686 --> 00:50:32,520 where the streets were 1576 00:50:32,521 --> 00:50:33,652 overlooked by hundreds of 1577 00:50:33,653 --> 00:50:37,218 surveillance cameras. 1578 00:50:37,219 --> 00:50:38,120 It was very difficult 1579 00:50:38,121 --> 00:50:40,519 to track the phone. 1580 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,119 If you're in a crowded area 1581 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,919 and you're in Manhattan, 1582 00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,252 everybody knows that 1583 00:50:45,253 --> 00:50:47,720 there are cameras everywhere. 1584 00:50:47,721 --> 00:50:48,920 Everybody's got a cell phone 1585 00:50:48,921 --> 00:50:51,054 stuck to their ear. 1586 00:50:51,087 --> 00:50:54,054 So which cell phone is it? 1587 00:50:54,087 --> 00:50:55,086 Each call lasted 1588 00:50:55,087 --> 00:50:56,253 less than three minutes, 1589 00:50:56,254 --> 00:50:57,221 and even when the police 1590 00:50:57,222 --> 00:50:58,554 managed to pinpoint his exact 1591 00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:00,321 location, the surveillance 1592 00:51:00,322 --> 00:51:01,987 footage showed only hundreds 1593 00:51:01,988 --> 00:51:03,687 of people, many with a phone 1594 00:51:03,688 --> 00:51:05,722 to their ear. 1595 00:51:09,088 --> 00:51:09,988 He would talk about 1596 00:51:09,989 --> 00:51:11,388 the things that he's done 1597 00:51:11,389 --> 00:51:13,522 to Melissa. 1598 00:51:13,523 --> 00:51:16,322 He was describing acts 1599 00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:19,324 more of violence than of sex. 1600 00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:23,589 Every time he called, 1601 00:51:23,590 --> 00:51:24,988 it sort of got a little more 1602 00:51:24,989 --> 00:51:27,789 detailed, like he was playing 1603 00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:30,556 a game with her. 1604 00:51:30,557 --> 00:51:31,390 The calls went on 1605 00:51:31,391 --> 00:51:32,956 for a month and a half. 1606 00:51:32,957 --> 00:51:36,756 There were seven in all. 1607 00:51:36,757 --> 00:51:38,757 We believe that these calls 1608 00:51:38,758 --> 00:51:40,557 were made by the killer. 1609 00:51:40,558 --> 00:51:42,757 It sounds like he was aware 1610 00:51:42,758 --> 00:51:46,358 of what happened to the victim, 1611 00:51:46,359 --> 00:51:48,358 so this young lady has had 1612 00:51:48,359 --> 00:51:50,358 contact over the phone 1613 00:51:50,359 --> 00:51:52,758 with the killer. 1614 00:51:52,759 --> 00:51:53,925 Every time my phone would 1615 00:51:53,926 --> 00:51:55,725 ring and I'd see her name, 1616 00:51:55,726 --> 00:51:56,659 my heart would stop, 1617 00:51:56,660 --> 00:51:58,158 and I'd have that sense 1618 00:51:58,159 --> 00:51:59,758 of possible relief. 1619 00:51:59,759 --> 00:52:01,658 "Maybe it's her this time." 1620 00:52:01,659 --> 00:52:05,392 But it wasn't. 1621 00:52:05,393 --> 00:52:07,392 She was devastated. 1622 00:52:07,393 --> 00:52:08,592 Every call, she was, like, 1623 00:52:08,593 --> 00:52:11,192 more panicky. 1624 00:52:11,193 --> 00:52:13,992 It's all about power, 1625 00:52:13,993 --> 00:52:17,226 about control. 1626 00:52:17,227 --> 00:52:18,027 This fits in with the 1627 00:52:18,028 --> 00:52:22,427 serial killer mentality. 1628 00:52:22,428 --> 00:52:24,360 The final call was, uh, 1629 00:52:24,361 --> 00:52:25,360 he actually said what 1630 00:52:25,361 --> 00:52:26,460 he did to her. 1631 00:52:26,461 --> 00:52:27,461 He actually told Amanda 1632 00:52:27,462 --> 00:52:28,960 that he killed her sister. 1633 00:52:28,961 --> 00:52:31,127 "You should have seen her face. 1634 00:52:31,128 --> 00:52:32,528 Gonna watch her body rot. 1635 00:52:32,529 --> 00:52:33,728 Then maybe I'll come tell you 1636 00:52:33,729 --> 00:52:38,528 personally." 1637 00:52:38,529 --> 00:52:39,728 In my mind, I feel that 1638 00:52:39,729 --> 00:52:41,128 he held her for at least 1639 00:52:41,129 --> 00:52:44,729 a month. 1640 00:52:44,730 --> 00:52:46,529 You know, I still don't sleep 1641 00:52:46,530 --> 00:52:47,729 at night. 1642 00:52:47,730 --> 00:52:49,529 I never, ever, ever turn off 1643 00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:50,962 my phone. 1644 00:52:50,963 --> 00:52:54,162 I paid Melissa's cell phone 1645 00:52:54,163 --> 00:52:56,563 for over a year, just hoping 1646 00:52:56,564 --> 00:52:57,762 that one more call would 1647 00:52:57,763 --> 00:53:02,229 come in. 1648 00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:03,064 The killer who 1649 00:53:03,064 --> 00:53:03,931 made those calls is still 1650 00:53:03,932 --> 00:53:05,663 out there. 1651 00:53:05,664 --> 00:53:07,530 Who he is and why he's killing 1652 00:53:07,531 --> 00:53:15,432 remains a mystery. 1653 00:53:16,131 --> 00:53:19,964 Okay, I guess everybody 1654 00:53:19,965 --> 00:53:20,997 is set. 1655 00:53:20,998 --> 00:53:22,598 We're all ready. 1656 00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:26,565 And good morning, everybody. 1657 00:53:26,566 --> 00:53:28,064 This is obviously a major 1658 00:53:28,065 --> 00:53:29,798 investigation. 1659 00:53:29,799 --> 00:53:31,198 And we in the Suffolk county 1660 00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,366 police department have 1661 00:53:33,367 --> 00:53:35,499 allocated major resources 1662 00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:37,132 to the case. 1663 00:53:37,133 --> 00:53:39,932 Now, I want to assure everybody 1664 00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:41,132 that we're on top of this 1665 00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:43,333 investigation. 1666 00:53:43,334 --> 00:53:44,333 In the first months 1667 00:53:44,334 --> 00:53:46,466 of 2011, Suffolk county police 1668 00:53:46,467 --> 00:53:49,567 had four bodies and no suspect. 1669 00:53:49,568 --> 00:53:51,166 Then, as now, the pressure 1670 00:53:51,167 --> 00:53:53,500 and speculation was mounting. 1671 00:53:53,501 --> 00:53:57,500 Who is this killer? 1672 00:53:57,501 --> 00:53:58,734 Criminal profilers agree 1673 00:53:58,735 --> 00:54:00,335 he knows the local area, 1674 00:54:00,336 --> 00:54:01,700 has a job, and is probably 1675 00:54:01,701 --> 00:54:05,668 married. 1676 00:54:05,669 --> 00:54:06,868 He's selecting victims who 1677 00:54:06,869 --> 00:54:09,468 look like the girl next door. 1678 00:54:09,469 --> 00:54:10,502 It's a neighbor. 1679 00:54:10,536 --> 00:54:11,701 It's a father, maybe. 1680 00:54:11,702 --> 00:54:13,501 You know, it's... 1681 00:54:13,502 --> 00:54:14,337 Who knows? 1682 00:54:14,338 --> 00:54:15,337 It could be the frickin' 1683 00:54:15,337 --> 00:54:16,069 mailman. 1684 00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:16,869 Who knows? 1685 00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:19,136 You don't know. 1686 00:54:19,169 --> 00:54:19,936 The phone calls 1687 00:54:19,937 --> 00:54:21,536 from Manhattan give other clues. 1688 00:54:21,537 --> 00:54:22,936 He's brazen and cunning 1689 00:54:22,937 --> 00:54:23,770 and takes pleasure 1690 00:54:23,771 --> 00:54:25,136 in terrorizing a teenager 1691 00:54:25,137 --> 00:54:27,570 from a crowded street. 1692 00:54:27,603 --> 00:54:29,802 That blows my mind. 1693 00:54:29,803 --> 00:54:31,803 To torment and torture 1694 00:54:31,804 --> 00:54:33,603 a 15-year-old girl, 1695 00:54:33,604 --> 00:54:36,804 what kind of man are you? 1696 00:54:36,838 --> 00:54:37,804 He's also 1697 00:54:37,805 --> 00:54:39,003 meticulous enough to leave 1698 00:54:39,004 --> 00:54:40,870 police with next to nothing. 1699 00:54:40,871 --> 00:54:41,838 They don't have anything 1700 00:54:41,838 --> 00:54:42,671 to work with. 1701 00:54:42,672 --> 00:54:43,704 They don't have a murder scene. 1702 00:54:43,705 --> 00:54:44,704 They don't have a witness. 1703 00:54:44,705 --> 00:54:45,704 They don't have DNA. 1704 00:54:45,705 --> 00:54:46,704 They don't have a crime scene. 1705 00:54:46,705 --> 00:54:48,704 What they have is a bag of bones 1706 00:54:48,705 --> 00:54:50,739 and hope. 1707 00:54:53,139 --> 00:54:54,339 A prolific killer 1708 00:54:54,340 --> 00:54:55,605 who might seem perfectly 1709 00:54:55,605 --> 00:54:56,672 ordinary to his neighbors 1710 00:54:56,673 --> 00:54:58,672 and family is something suburban 1711 00:54:58,673 --> 00:55:01,705 long island has seen before. 1712 00:55:01,706 --> 00:55:03,339 When police noticed a pickup 1713 00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:04,672 truck with no license plates, 1714 00:55:04,673 --> 00:55:05,672 they gave chase. 1715 00:55:05,673 --> 00:55:06,672 When the truck stopped, 1716 00:55:06,673 --> 00:55:07,839 they became suspicious 1717 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,839 and found the partially 1718 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,640 decomposed body of a woman 1719 00:55:10,641 --> 00:55:11,839 in the back of Joel Rifkin's 1720 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,840 truck. 1721 00:55:14,841 --> 00:55:15,741 In the mid-'90s 1722 00:55:15,741 --> 00:55:16,707 two local men, 1723 00:55:16,708 --> 00:55:18,373 apparently coincidentally, 1724 00:55:18,374 --> 00:55:19,906 started killing women. 1725 00:55:19,907 --> 00:55:21,173 A postal worker named 1726 00:55:21,174 --> 00:55:22,341 Robert shulman killed 1727 00:55:22,342 --> 00:55:23,840 five prostitutes. 1728 00:55:23,841 --> 00:55:26,741 Joel Rifkin killed 17. 1729 00:55:26,742 --> 00:55:28,474 At the time, he was a landscape 1730 00:55:28,475 --> 00:55:29,807 gardener living at home 1731 00:55:29,808 --> 00:55:33,841 with his elderly mother. 1732 00:55:33,842 --> 00:55:37,342 Basically, his operation 1733 00:55:37,343 --> 00:55:38,675 consisted of picking up 1734 00:55:38,676 --> 00:55:40,975 the women, having sex with them, 1735 00:55:40,976 --> 00:55:42,174 killing them, and disposing 1736 00:55:42,175 --> 00:55:44,175 of them. 1737 00:55:44,176 --> 00:55:45,342 From his prison 1738 00:55:45,343 --> 00:55:46,942 cell, Rifkin gave police 1739 00:55:46,943 --> 00:55:48,443 hunting the new killer 1740 00:55:48,444 --> 00:55:50,343 the benefit of his advice: 1741 00:55:50,344 --> 00:55:51,509 He will be a local 1742 00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:53,343 who works with burlap, 1743 00:55:53,344 --> 00:55:54,509 probably a fisherman, 1744 00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:57,210 a landscaper, or a contractor. 1745 00:56:01,411 --> 00:56:03,344 Dave Schaller, Amber's roommate 1746 00:56:03,345 --> 00:56:05,544 in Babylon, had seen for himself 1747 00:56:05,545 --> 00:56:06,777 the scale of the secret 1748 00:56:06,778 --> 00:56:08,209 online sex trade in these 1749 00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:10,510 quiet suburban streets. 1750 00:56:10,511 --> 00:56:11,378 This is the neighborhood, 1751 00:56:11,378 --> 00:56:12,211 you know? 1752 00:56:12,245 --> 00:56:13,111 There ain't nothing different 1753 00:56:13,112 --> 00:56:14,345 here than anywhere else, 1754 00:56:14,346 --> 00:56:15,611 you know? 1755 00:56:15,612 --> 00:56:17,478 It hides well, you know? 1756 00:56:17,479 --> 00:56:19,077 That's the best way to put it, 1757 00:56:19,078 --> 00:56:20,478 you know, to hide in plain 1758 00:56:20,479 --> 00:56:23,879 sight. 1759 00:56:23,912 --> 00:56:25,346 This is where it happens, 1760 00:56:25,347 --> 00:56:26,445 you know? 1761 00:56:26,446 --> 00:56:27,446 Everybody thinks it's in 1762 00:56:27,447 --> 00:56:28,413 the inner cities and stuff 1763 00:56:28,414 --> 00:56:29,612 like that, but in reality, 1764 00:56:29,613 --> 00:56:32,211 you know, there's probably more 1765 00:56:32,212 --> 00:56:34,211 going on... just as much going on 1766 00:56:34,212 --> 00:56:37,012 in suburbia than there is 1767 00:56:37,013 --> 00:56:38,346 anywhere else. 1768 00:56:38,347 --> 00:56:40,112 The executives and the people, 1769 00:56:40,113 --> 00:56:41,112 you know, who run these 1770 00:56:41,113 --> 00:56:42,480 companies or, you know, 1771 00:56:42,481 --> 00:56:44,347 the dockworker, the guy 1772 00:56:44,348 --> 00:56:45,480 who's a construction worker, 1773 00:56:45,481 --> 00:56:46,880 that's the clientele. 1774 00:56:46,881 --> 00:56:48,212 And you know what? 1775 00:56:48,213 --> 00:56:51,813 This is where they live. 1776 00:56:51,814 --> 00:56:53,213 There's a lot of no-good 1777 00:56:53,214 --> 00:56:54,813 going on behind closed doors, 1778 00:56:54,814 --> 00:56:56,481 especially in these areas. 1779 00:56:56,482 --> 00:56:57,947 You know, they're the most 1780 00:56:57,948 --> 00:57:00,348 overlooked thing, you know? 1781 00:57:00,349 --> 00:57:03,248 Everybody overlooks suburbia. 1782 00:57:06,215 --> 00:57:07,415 Most of my people were 1783 00:57:07,416 --> 00:57:08,881 business working men, you know? 1784 00:57:08,882 --> 00:57:11,782 Corporate America... 1785 00:57:11,783 --> 00:57:13,582 That are just freaks 1786 00:57:13,583 --> 00:57:17,582 and like to be freaks. 1787 00:57:17,583 --> 00:57:19,982 They can be what they fantasize 1788 00:57:19,983 --> 00:57:22,550 about on those calls. 1789 00:57:22,551 --> 00:57:24,949 I knew this was dangerous, 1790 00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:26,516 you know? 1791 00:57:26,517 --> 00:57:27,916 There was one guy who was 1792 00:57:27,917 --> 00:57:29,116 stalking her. 1793 00:57:29,117 --> 00:57:30,850 He would call and tell her, 1794 00:57:30,851 --> 00:57:31,651 you know, "I'm looking 1795 00:57:31,651 --> 00:57:32,451 through the front window 1796 00:57:32,451 --> 00:57:33,352 of your house, you know, 1797 00:57:33,353 --> 00:57:34,716 and I see you standing there." 1798 00:57:34,717 --> 00:57:36,016 There was this other guy 1799 00:57:36,017 --> 00:57:39,551 who was a realtor guy. 1800 00:57:39,552 --> 00:57:40,485 He wouldn't hurt her, but he 1801 00:57:40,485 --> 00:57:41,352 would, like, put his foot 1802 00:57:41,352 --> 00:57:42,217 on her chest and, like, 1803 00:57:42,217 --> 00:57:43,152 flex his arms and. 1804 00:57:43,152 --> 00:57:44,018 You know, just, like, 1805 00:57:44,019 --> 00:57:45,217 very strange things to make 1806 00:57:45,218 --> 00:57:46,784 himself very... seem very 1807 00:57:46,785 --> 00:57:50,385 powerful, you know? 1808 00:57:50,386 --> 00:57:51,353 Police believe 1809 00:57:51,354 --> 00:57:52,785 this killer, like other serial 1810 00:57:52,786 --> 00:57:54,752 killers before him, is a regular 1811 00:57:54,753 --> 00:57:56,552 client who doesn't kill every 1812 00:57:56,553 --> 00:57:59,018 sex worker he sees. 1813 00:57:59,019 --> 00:58:00,618 After he murdered her sister, 1814 00:58:00,619 --> 00:58:02,353 Kim overstreet posted an ad 1815 00:58:02,354 --> 00:58:04,085 online to try and lure him 1816 00:58:04,086 --> 00:58:05,886 to a meeting. 1817 00:58:05,887 --> 00:58:06,886 Honest to god, I was on 1818 00:58:06,887 --> 00:58:08,786 a mission at that point. 1819 00:58:08,787 --> 00:58:10,386 I was going to know, okay? 1820 00:58:10,387 --> 00:58:11,386 That was it. 1821 00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:12,254 And when I seen them, 1822 00:58:12,255 --> 00:58:14,053 I would know. 1823 00:58:14,054 --> 00:58:15,454 I also thought, "well, maybe 1824 00:58:15,455 --> 00:58:17,053 he'll just try and do it to me." 1825 00:58:17,054 --> 00:58:20,186 And I was ready. 1826 00:58:20,187 --> 00:58:21,186 I know that it's gonna take 1827 00:58:21,187 --> 00:58:22,387 this guy slipping up and making 1828 00:58:22,388 --> 00:58:24,187 a mistake in order to be caught. 1829 00:58:24,188 --> 00:58:26,087 And he will. 1830 00:58:26,088 --> 00:58:27,087 Eventually, somebody 1831 00:58:27,088 --> 00:58:28,488 will get away. 1832 00:58:28,489 --> 00:58:29,688 If they prepare themself 1833 00:58:29,689 --> 00:58:30,622 mentally at this point, 1834 00:58:30,623 --> 00:58:31,655 from this point on, 1835 00:58:31,656 --> 00:58:33,355 read a couple books on it 1836 00:58:33,356 --> 00:58:34,521 so that you know what you're 1837 00:58:34,522 --> 00:58:35,456 coming across and you can 1838 00:58:35,457 --> 00:58:36,655 recognize the signs of it. 1839 00:58:36,656 --> 00:58:40,055 Okay, that's what I did. 1840 00:58:40,056 --> 00:58:41,522 And you've got to be able 1841 00:58:41,523 --> 00:58:43,088 to fight, because if you can't 1842 00:58:43,089 --> 00:58:43,956 fight, you're not gonna 1843 00:58:43,957 --> 00:58:46,457 get away. 1844 00:58:47,757 --> 00:58:48,590 This killer 1845 00:58:48,591 --> 00:58:49,590 is part of a growing trend 1846 00:58:49,591 --> 00:58:51,722 in Internet crime. 1847 00:58:51,723 --> 00:58:52,956 He is selecting his victims 1848 00:58:52,957 --> 00:58:54,756 online, using the cover 1849 00:58:54,757 --> 00:58:56,457 of a fast and anonymous 1850 00:58:56,458 --> 00:58:58,357 sex trade. 1851 00:58:58,358 --> 00:58:59,890 When a sex worker puts an ad 1852 00:58:59,891 --> 00:59:01,857 on craigslist, within minutes, 1853 00:59:01,858 --> 00:59:03,857 they get many, many hits. 1854 00:59:03,858 --> 00:59:06,891 It could run into the hundreds. 1855 00:59:06,924 --> 00:59:08,090 Normal, run-of-the-mill 1856 00:59:08,091 --> 00:59:10,358 murders, there's a relationship 1857 00:59:10,359 --> 00:59:11,890 between the killer 1858 00:59:11,891 --> 00:59:13,091 and the victim. 1859 00:59:13,124 --> 00:59:15,458 These are stranger-stranger 1860 00:59:15,459 --> 00:59:19,524 contacts. 1861 00:59:19,525 --> 00:59:20,724 He's not the first 1862 00:59:20,725 --> 00:59:22,492 killer to use craigslist to hunt 1863 00:59:22,493 --> 00:59:24,091 his victims. 1864 00:59:24,092 --> 00:59:26,359 In 2009, a medical student 1865 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,892 attacked three women he'd met 1866 00:59:27,893 --> 00:59:29,592 on the website, killing one 1867 00:59:29,593 --> 00:59:31,493 of them. 1868 00:59:31,526 --> 00:59:33,892 Because the Internet offers 1869 00:59:33,893 --> 00:59:36,092 anonymity, you know, in these 1870 00:59:36,093 --> 00:59:38,092 chat rooms, craigslist, 1871 00:59:38,093 --> 00:59:39,693 and the like, I think people 1872 00:59:39,694 --> 00:59:41,092 generally tend to feel safe 1873 00:59:41,093 --> 00:59:44,093 on them, until they agree 1874 00:59:44,094 --> 00:59:46,093 to actually come in contact 1875 00:59:46,094 --> 00:59:48,362 with one another. 1876 00:59:54,762 --> 00:59:55,761 The killer began 1877 00:59:55,762 --> 00:59:57,427 selecting his targets online 1878 00:59:57,428 --> 00:59:59,927 in 2007, 1879 00:59:59,928 --> 01:00:01,528 and the first woman he killed 1880 01:00:01,529 --> 01:00:02,463 had characteristics 1881 01:00:02,464 --> 01:00:04,496 that linked them all. 1882 01:00:18,564 --> 01:00:20,629 I've always looked for 1883 01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:23,029 my sister, 'cause I hold on 1884 01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:26,029 to hope that maybe one day 1885 01:00:26,030 --> 01:00:27,029 your sister will come walk 1886 01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:28,630 through the door and, you know, 1887 01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:29,664 say, "hey, I'm okay." 1888 01:00:29,665 --> 01:00:31,698 You know, "hey, guys." 1889 01:00:33,865 --> 01:00:34,864 The killer's most 1890 01:00:34,865 --> 01:00:36,097 recent victims are believed to 1891 01:00:36,098 --> 01:00:37,530 be Amber and Megan, who 1892 01:00:37,531 --> 01:00:38,730 disappeared after Shannan 1893 01:00:38,731 --> 01:00:40,730 in 2010. 1894 01:00:40,731 --> 01:00:43,665 Melissa he killed in 2009. 1895 01:00:43,666 --> 01:00:45,264 But his first victim was back 1896 01:00:45,265 --> 01:00:47,631 in 2007, and her name 1897 01:00:47,632 --> 01:00:52,231 was Maureen brainard-Barnes. 1898 01:00:52,232 --> 01:00:53,831 Her story confirms a pattern 1899 01:00:53,832 --> 01:00:56,066 that links them all. 1900 01:01:01,132 --> 01:01:02,366 Maureen didn't really play 1901 01:01:02,367 --> 01:01:03,366 too much football. 1902 01:01:03,367 --> 01:01:04,699 She was more girly girl. 1903 01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:09,066 I was the more tomboy. 1904 01:01:09,067 --> 01:01:10,166 My brother was a football star 1905 01:01:10,167 --> 01:01:13,066 his whole life. 1906 01:01:13,067 --> 01:01:14,232 I always played with the boys, 1907 01:01:14,233 --> 01:01:15,232 and they couldn't catch me; 1908 01:01:15,233 --> 01:01:16,034 I was fast. 1909 01:01:18,434 --> 01:01:20,434 We used to stack up grocery 1910 01:01:20,435 --> 01:01:21,833 carts on top of each other, 1911 01:01:21,834 --> 01:01:22,833 and we'd sit there and just 1912 01:01:22,834 --> 01:01:23,833 look at the stars and tell 1913 01:01:23,834 --> 01:01:25,033 each other everything about 1914 01:01:25,034 --> 01:01:27,068 ourselves. 1915 01:01:31,002 --> 01:01:31,902 We were like best friends. 1916 01:01:31,903 --> 01:01:32,902 We were, you know, 1917 01:01:32,903 --> 01:01:34,001 lifetime best friends, 1918 01:01:34,002 --> 01:01:35,402 even though, you know, 1919 01:01:35,403 --> 01:01:40,001 we were brother and sisters. 1920 01:01:40,002 --> 01:01:40,970 The most highly 1921 01:01:40,971 --> 01:01:42,602 prized commodity in an online 1922 01:01:42,603 --> 01:01:43,602 sex industry worth 1923 01:01:43,603 --> 01:01:45,935 about $3 billion a year 1924 01:01:45,936 --> 01:01:47,835 is ordinary American girls 1925 01:01:47,836 --> 01:01:48,935 like Maureen, 1926 01:01:48,936 --> 01:01:52,770 the girl next door. 1927 01:01:52,771 --> 01:01:54,936 Maureen was beautiful, 1928 01:01:54,937 --> 01:01:56,503 but I don't think that she 1929 01:01:56,504 --> 01:01:58,236 really convinced herself 1930 01:01:58,237 --> 01:01:59,204 that she was. 1931 01:01:59,205 --> 01:02:02,270 Someone contacted her on 1932 01:02:02,271 --> 01:02:05,637 MySpace, and they said that 1933 01:02:05,638 --> 01:02:06,837 they wanted her to come down 1934 01:02:06,838 --> 01:02:07,837 and do modeling, and Maureen 1935 01:02:07,838 --> 01:02:09,037 was like, "oh, great. 1936 01:02:09,038 --> 01:02:11,237 This is awesome." 1937 01:02:11,238 --> 01:02:12,105 That offer 1938 01:02:12,106 --> 01:02:13,505 was from New York. 1939 01:02:13,506 --> 01:02:14,771 It seemed tempting and 1940 01:02:14,772 --> 01:02:16,538 apparently harmless, 1941 01:02:16,539 --> 01:02:18,372 but it put Maureen on the radar 1942 01:02:18,373 --> 01:02:19,872 of an online industry 1943 01:02:19,873 --> 01:02:22,838 hunting fresh new faces. 1944 01:02:22,839 --> 01:02:24,838 I think that she saw it as, 1945 01:02:24,839 --> 01:02:26,238 you know, "I could provide 1946 01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:28,038 and be this big person." 1947 01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:30,238 And as soon as she got to 1948 01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:31,773 New York, it probably was 1949 01:02:31,774 --> 01:02:32,773 a different thing than what 1950 01:02:32,774 --> 01:02:35,374 she thought it was gonna be. 1951 01:02:38,607 --> 01:02:39,574 Kind of got some hints 1952 01:02:39,574 --> 01:02:40,508 that maybe she was doing 1953 01:02:40,509 --> 01:02:42,106 something else. 1954 01:02:42,107 --> 01:02:43,273 I did confront her a little bit 1955 01:02:43,274 --> 01:02:44,474 about it, and she was like, 1956 01:02:44,475 --> 01:02:46,239 "no, I'm just doing modeling." 1957 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,640 And, you know, it would upset 1958 01:02:47,641 --> 01:02:50,941 her, so I kind of backed away. 1959 01:02:53,141 --> 01:02:54,008 From the moment 1960 01:02:54,009 --> 01:02:55,874 Maureen posted her first online 1961 01:02:55,875 --> 01:02:57,375 ad, she was in the killer's 1962 01:02:57,376 --> 01:02:58,708 domain, and he made his 1963 01:02:58,709 --> 01:03:01,875 selection. 1964 01:03:01,876 --> 01:03:04,375 On the 6th of July, 2007, 1965 01:03:04,376 --> 01:03:05,875 she traveled from Connecticut 1966 01:03:05,876 --> 01:03:07,075 to New York and checked into 1967 01:03:07,076 --> 01:03:08,275 the super 8 hotel on 1968 01:03:08,276 --> 01:03:12,542 46th street near Times Square. 1969 01:03:12,543 --> 01:03:14,376 The online sex trade 1970 01:03:14,377 --> 01:03:16,977 delivered her to his door. 1971 01:03:20,511 --> 01:03:21,709 When she didn't come home 1972 01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:23,076 that Monday, I was calling 1973 01:03:23,077 --> 01:03:25,009 her voice mail. 1974 01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:26,209 Then a few days later, I called 1975 01:03:26,210 --> 01:03:27,410 my brother, and he was like, 1976 01:03:27,411 --> 01:03:28,210 "well, let me see. 1977 01:03:28,211 --> 01:03:29,210 She'll answer my phone." 1978 01:03:29,211 --> 01:03:30,810 And he called, and he was like, 1979 01:03:30,811 --> 01:03:32,010 "now it's going straight 1980 01:03:32,011 --> 01:03:34,178 to voice mail." 1981 01:03:43,645 --> 01:03:44,545 Maureen's brother 1982 01:03:44,545 --> 01:03:45,245 and sister immediately 1983 01:03:45,246 --> 01:03:46,611 began to search for her 1984 01:03:46,612 --> 01:03:47,811 themselves. 1985 01:03:47,812 --> 01:03:48,844 They found the reaction 1986 01:03:48,845 --> 01:03:52,479 they encountered hard to bear. 1987 01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:53,879 After Maureen went missing, 1988 01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,178 my brother and my husband jumped 1989 01:03:55,179 --> 01:03:56,179 on their bikes, and they went 1990 01:03:56,180 --> 01:03:59,179 to Manhattan to go ask people, 1991 01:03:59,180 --> 01:04:00,080 you know, "have you seen 1992 01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,880 my sister? 1993 01:04:00,881 --> 01:04:04,079 You know, do you know her?" 1994 01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,079 They said, "it's a different 1995 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,279 world out there. 1996 01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,180 No one cares. 1997 01:04:07,181 --> 01:04:08,580 Everybody's too busy to stop 1998 01:04:08,581 --> 01:04:09,980 and actually talk to you 1999 01:04:09,981 --> 01:04:11,513 and want to help. 2000 01:04:11,514 --> 01:04:13,713 Nobody's seen her. 2001 01:04:13,714 --> 01:04:16,213 No one knows her." 2002 01:04:16,214 --> 01:04:16,914 Back home in 2003 01:04:16,915 --> 01:04:18,381 Connecticut, they turned 2004 01:04:18,382 --> 01:04:19,247 to the police 2005 01:04:19,248 --> 01:04:22,381 to report her missing. 2006 01:04:22,382 --> 01:04:24,781 The police officer was like, 2007 01:04:24,782 --> 01:04:26,981 you know, "maybe she ran away. 2008 01:04:26,982 --> 01:04:29,748 Maybe she doesn't care." 2009 01:04:29,749 --> 01:04:30,516 I don't know if he was trying 2010 01:04:30,517 --> 01:04:31,914 to make us feel better or what, 2011 01:04:31,915 --> 01:04:33,114 but it made it seem like 2012 01:04:33,115 --> 01:04:35,115 he didn't care at all. 2013 01:04:35,116 --> 01:04:36,115 And, like, my brother was so 2014 01:04:36,116 --> 01:04:36,983 upset, he had to walk out 2015 01:04:36,984 --> 01:04:39,582 the door. 2016 01:04:39,583 --> 01:04:41,182 I grabbed the missing persons 2017 01:04:41,183 --> 01:04:42,049 papers. 2018 01:04:42,050 --> 01:04:43,848 We returned them that week. 2019 01:04:43,849 --> 01:04:45,048 Took them 2 1/2 years 2020 01:04:45,049 --> 01:04:48,248 to put her in the database. 2021 01:04:48,249 --> 01:04:49,716 The irony is that 2022 01:04:49,717 --> 01:04:51,116 Maureen had actually stopped 2023 01:04:51,117 --> 01:04:52,583 working as an escort when 2024 01:04:52,584 --> 01:04:55,083 she disappeared. 2025 01:04:55,084 --> 01:04:55,950 She was living back in 2026 01:04:55,950 --> 01:04:56,917 Connecticut with her two 2027 01:04:56,918 --> 01:04:58,450 young children and was looking 2028 01:04:58,451 --> 01:04:59,550 for a job she could 2029 01:04:59,551 --> 01:05:02,017 fit around child care. 2030 01:05:02,018 --> 01:05:04,450 She would come to my house, 2031 01:05:04,451 --> 01:05:06,550 go through the papers. 2032 01:05:06,551 --> 01:05:08,451 She applied from, you know, 2033 01:05:08,452 --> 01:05:09,451 stop-and-shop jobs 2034 01:05:09,452 --> 01:05:12,050 and dunkin' donuts jobs. 2035 01:05:12,051 --> 01:05:13,084 It wasn't like Maureen 2036 01:05:13,085 --> 01:05:13,919 didn't look. 2037 01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,118 She looked. 2038 01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:19,118 Then in July 2007, 2039 01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:21,118 she got an eviction order. 2040 01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:22,486 The week before the court 2041 01:05:22,487 --> 01:05:24,519 hearing, Maureen went back 2042 01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,218 on craigslist and arranged to 2043 01:05:26,219 --> 01:05:30,386 meet the client in Manhattan. 2044 01:05:34,388 --> 01:05:35,487 The last signal on her 2045 01:05:35,488 --> 01:05:36,886 cell phone came from 2046 01:05:36,887 --> 01:05:38,520 long island, just miles 2047 01:05:38,521 --> 01:05:40,554 from oak beach. 2048 01:05:50,221 --> 01:05:51,021 All right, three. 2049 01:05:51,021 --> 01:05:51,954 Now we're gonna move down 2050 01:05:51,954 --> 01:05:52,822 the beach a little bit, 2051 01:05:52,823 --> 01:05:54,922 see if we can find more. 2052 01:05:59,022 --> 01:06:01,422 On march 29, 2011, 2053 01:06:01,423 --> 01:06:02,988 three months after the first 2054 01:06:02,989 --> 01:06:04,455 victims were found, 2055 01:06:04,456 --> 01:06:05,655 the story of this killer 2056 01:06:05,656 --> 01:06:07,856 took an unexpected turn. 2057 01:06:12,790 --> 01:06:13,855 Two miles to the east of his 2058 01:06:13,856 --> 01:06:15,889 first victims, police found 2059 01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:21,222 a head, hands, and forearm. 2060 01:06:21,223 --> 01:06:22,623 They were the remains of a woman 2061 01:06:22,624 --> 01:06:26,023 named Jessica Taylor. 2062 01:06:26,024 --> 01:06:27,623 We know that miss Taylor 2063 01:06:27,624 --> 01:06:29,156 had lived and worked 2064 01:06:29,157 --> 01:06:31,156 as a prostitute in Washington, 2065 01:06:31,157 --> 01:06:34,391 D.C., but had fled from there 2066 01:06:34,392 --> 01:06:36,157 to New York City, where she 2067 01:06:36,158 --> 01:06:38,157 remained for a few days 2068 01:06:38,158 --> 01:06:41,392 prior to her disappearance. 2069 01:06:41,393 --> 01:06:43,957 Taylor was identified from 2070 01:06:43,958 --> 01:06:46,392 a tattoo on her back. 2071 01:06:46,393 --> 01:06:48,958 This, again, was another change. 2072 01:06:48,959 --> 01:06:50,292 To be honest with you, I wasn't 2073 01:06:50,293 --> 01:06:51,825 surprised. 2074 01:06:51,826 --> 01:06:54,825 I mean, I was thinking four. 2075 01:06:54,826 --> 01:06:55,825 You know, there may be more 2076 01:06:55,826 --> 01:06:58,158 out there. 2077 01:06:58,159 --> 01:06:58,960 What made this 2078 01:06:58,961 --> 01:07:00,893 twist more disturbing was that 2079 01:07:00,894 --> 01:07:02,093 the rest of Jessica Taylor's 2080 01:07:02,094 --> 01:07:03,226 body was found 2081 01:07:03,227 --> 01:07:04,459 eight years earlier 2082 01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:06,059 in a long island town 40 miles 2083 01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:08,226 away, and that discovery 2084 01:07:08,227 --> 01:07:10,595 was just the beginning. 2085 01:07:18,495 --> 01:07:20,627 At the end of march 2086 01:07:20,628 --> 01:07:22,894 2011, police discovered a fifth 2087 01:07:22,895 --> 01:07:24,160 body on the same stretch of 2088 01:07:24,161 --> 01:07:28,028 beach as the first four victims, 2089 01:07:28,029 --> 01:07:29,761 this time, a dismembered woman 2090 01:07:29,762 --> 01:07:33,295 who'd been killed years earlier. 2091 01:07:33,296 --> 01:07:34,661 In early April, 2092 01:07:34,662 --> 01:07:36,228 a further search began. 2093 01:07:36,229 --> 01:07:38,462 Once again, no one was prepared 2094 01:07:38,463 --> 01:07:40,497 for what they found. 2095 01:07:51,464 --> 01:07:53,262 It's all been very startling. 2096 01:07:53,263 --> 01:07:54,730 All of it has been. 2097 01:07:54,731 --> 01:07:55,564 I really... I don't have 2098 01:07:55,564 --> 01:07:56,498 a reaction for you 2099 01:07:56,499 --> 01:07:57,498 because it's just amazing 2100 01:07:57,499 --> 01:07:59,697 that we're finding these things. 2101 01:07:59,698 --> 01:08:00,664 So obviously, we have 2102 01:08:00,665 --> 01:08:04,097 a lot of work to do. 2103 01:08:04,098 --> 01:08:07,297 We initially found four, 2104 01:08:07,298 --> 01:08:10,798 and then we found six more. 2105 01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:13,565 Total of ten. 2106 01:08:13,566 --> 01:08:14,565 In early April 2107 01:08:14,566 --> 01:08:16,765 2011, days after the discovery 2108 01:08:16,766 --> 01:08:18,231 of the fifth body, 2109 01:08:18,232 --> 01:08:19,999 the police found more human 2110 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,465 remains in the same area: 2111 01:08:22,466 --> 01:08:23,400 Two women who'd been 2112 01:08:23,401 --> 01:08:25,699 dismembered, an Asian man 2113 01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:27,299 who'd been beaten to death, 2114 01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:28,633 an infant child 2115 01:08:28,634 --> 01:08:30,400 about 18 months old, 2116 01:08:30,401 --> 01:08:32,265 and two unidentified remains 2117 01:08:32,266 --> 01:08:35,001 to the south. 2118 01:08:35,034 --> 01:08:36,233 This was a twist in 2119 01:08:36,234 --> 01:08:37,167 the story. 2120 01:08:37,167 --> 01:08:38,001 This was something that 2121 01:08:38,002 --> 01:08:39,300 we weren't expecting. 2122 01:08:39,301 --> 01:08:40,600 I mean, we were expecting, 2123 01:08:40,601 --> 01:08:41,833 you know, sex workers, 2124 01:08:41,834 --> 01:08:43,834 prostitutes, and so this was 2125 01:08:43,835 --> 01:08:46,434 an equation that really 2126 01:08:46,435 --> 01:08:48,034 threw us for a loop at first. 2127 01:08:48,035 --> 01:08:49,067 We were trying to figure out 2128 01:08:49,068 --> 01:08:53,201 what was going on here. 2129 01:08:53,202 --> 01:08:55,134 They'd found more, 2130 01:08:55,135 --> 01:08:57,569 and it started all over again. 2131 01:08:59,302 --> 01:09:00,301 I was just like, 2132 01:09:00,302 --> 01:09:01,768 "oh, my god." 2133 01:09:01,769 --> 01:09:04,935 Like, a baby. 2134 01:09:04,936 --> 01:09:06,135 How could the police find 2135 01:09:06,136 --> 01:09:07,935 all these bodies in the same 2136 01:09:07,936 --> 01:09:11,403 area all of a sudden? 2137 01:09:11,404 --> 01:09:15,070 There are so many whys. 2138 01:09:15,104 --> 01:09:16,469 Each time they found somebody 2139 01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:17,536 else, it was like the cops 2140 01:09:17,537 --> 01:09:19,470 just came and banged on my door. 2141 01:09:19,471 --> 01:09:20,570 It's like it brings everything 2142 01:09:20,571 --> 01:09:23,404 right back to the beginning. 2143 01:09:23,405 --> 01:09:24,237 It was hell. 2144 01:09:24,238 --> 01:09:26,937 It was devastating. 2145 01:09:31,705 --> 01:09:33,237 Long island woke up 2146 01:09:33,238 --> 01:09:34,837 to the news that an almost 2147 01:09:34,838 --> 01:09:36,638 unbelievable crime was unfolding 2148 01:09:36,639 --> 01:09:41,038 on its south shore. 2149 01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:42,405 On the isolated oceanfront 2150 01:09:42,406 --> 01:09:44,138 beside beaches packed with 2151 01:09:44,139 --> 01:09:46,138 tourists in summer, police had 2152 01:09:46,139 --> 01:09:48,305 first found four bodies, 2153 01:09:48,306 --> 01:09:51,272 and now they'd found six more. 2154 01:09:56,273 --> 01:09:57,272 There was different theories 2155 01:09:57,273 --> 01:09:58,472 out there, even within 2156 01:09:58,473 --> 01:09:59,672 law enforcement. 2157 01:09:59,673 --> 01:10:01,540 The way the bodies were disposed 2158 01:10:01,541 --> 01:10:03,306 of was a little different. 2159 01:10:03,307 --> 01:10:06,139 Is it more than one killer? 2160 01:10:06,140 --> 01:10:07,540 The latest find 2161 01:10:07,541 --> 01:10:08,607 raised the possibility that 2162 01:10:08,608 --> 01:10:09,873 more than one killer 2163 01:10:09,874 --> 01:10:11,408 might be at work and that 2164 01:10:11,409 --> 01:10:14,940 it might be as many as four. 2165 01:10:14,941 --> 01:10:17,140 It's a tough area. 2166 01:10:17,141 --> 01:10:18,108 It's very easy to miss 2167 01:10:18,109 --> 01:10:19,474 something. 2168 01:10:19,475 --> 01:10:21,074 And if there are any more bodies 2169 01:10:21,075 --> 01:10:25,274 out there, we want to find them. 2170 01:10:25,275 --> 01:10:27,074 This is the biggest incident 2171 01:10:27,075 --> 01:10:28,874 in my career and in the career 2172 01:10:28,875 --> 01:10:30,274 of many of the officers that 2173 01:10:30,275 --> 01:10:32,675 are working this case. 2174 01:10:32,676 --> 01:10:33,875 And it got bigger. 2175 01:10:33,876 --> 01:10:37,110 It's now larger than life. 2176 01:10:40,477 --> 01:10:42,275 What we do know for certain 2177 01:10:42,276 --> 01:10:44,643 and what is now very clear 2178 01:10:44,644 --> 01:10:46,643 is that the area in and around 2179 01:10:46,644 --> 01:10:48,843 Gilgo beach has been used 2180 01:10:48,844 --> 01:10:51,043 to discard human remains 2181 01:10:51,044 --> 01:10:53,412 for some period of time. 2182 01:10:56,244 --> 01:10:57,243 The discovery of 2183 01:10:57,244 --> 01:10:59,644 one body led to nine more, 2184 01:10:59,645 --> 01:11:01,044 and this strip of oceanfront 2185 01:11:01,045 --> 01:11:02,844 road was uncovered as a dumping 2186 01:11:02,845 --> 01:11:05,412 ground for multiple killers. 2187 01:11:05,413 --> 01:11:06,977 It had all started with 2188 01:11:06,978 --> 01:11:08,412 the search for one woman 2189 01:11:08,413 --> 01:11:09,812 who disappeared from oak beach, 2190 01:11:09,845 --> 01:11:12,812 a 23-year-old escort named 2191 01:11:12,813 --> 01:11:15,412 Shannan Gilbert. 2192 01:11:15,413 --> 01:11:17,178 It was just my fear that she 2193 01:11:17,179 --> 01:11:19,145 was just lying there somewhere, 2194 01:11:19,146 --> 01:11:20,778 and she was just there, 2195 01:11:20,779 --> 01:11:21,978 and nobody even wanted to go 2196 01:11:21,979 --> 01:11:24,414 look for her. 2197 01:11:28,047 --> 01:11:29,014 Shannan's family 2198 01:11:29,015 --> 01:11:30,946 had waited again for news that 2199 01:11:30,947 --> 01:11:32,713 she was among the bodies. 2200 01:11:32,714 --> 01:11:33,746 And again, the police called 2201 01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:34,681 them to say she'd been 2202 01:11:34,681 --> 01:11:36,715 ruled out. 2203 01:11:39,415 --> 01:11:40,680 A year on, her mother 2204 01:11:40,681 --> 01:11:41,980 was more convinced than ever 2205 01:11:41,981 --> 01:11:43,114 that the answer to her 2206 01:11:43,115 --> 01:11:44,580 daughter's disappearance 2207 01:11:44,581 --> 01:11:45,747 lay in the long island 2208 01:11:45,748 --> 01:11:47,181 community. 2209 01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:48,780 These are the books 2210 01:11:48,781 --> 01:11:51,981 that Shannan had. 2211 01:11:51,981 --> 01:11:55,782 It's filled with names, 2212 01:11:55,816 --> 01:11:57,581 addresses, 2213 01:11:57,582 --> 01:12:03,149 and phone numbers of clients. 2214 01:12:05,417 --> 01:12:08,549 And slowly but surely, 2215 01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:10,149 my friends and I were going 2216 01:12:10,150 --> 01:12:11,417 through every name and every 2217 01:12:11,418 --> 01:12:13,417 number. 2218 01:12:13,418 --> 01:12:15,149 The majority of clients in here 2219 01:12:15,150 --> 01:12:19,149 are very wealthy, well-to-do. 2220 01:12:19,150 --> 01:12:22,417 In fact, one of our... 2221 01:12:22,418 --> 01:12:23,950 One of my last conversations 2222 01:12:23,951 --> 01:12:25,150 with my daughter when she came 2223 01:12:25,151 --> 01:12:28,750 to visit, she says, "mommy." 2224 01:12:28,751 --> 01:12:30,283 She says, "I'm okay. 2225 01:12:30,284 --> 01:12:32,283 You wouldn't believe 2226 01:12:32,284 --> 01:12:34,718 the clients I have. 2227 01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:35,685 These are doctors. 2228 01:12:35,686 --> 01:12:36,685 They're lawyers. 2229 01:12:36,686 --> 01:12:37,685 They're judges. 2230 01:12:37,685 --> 01:12:38,619 They're teachers. 2231 01:12:38,620 --> 01:12:41,818 The money is incredible." 2232 01:12:41,819 --> 01:12:43,419 She said, "I'm going to school. 2233 01:12:43,420 --> 01:12:44,785 When I get my degree, mom, 2234 01:12:44,786 --> 01:12:47,219 I promise, I'm gonna stop." 2235 01:12:51,153 --> 01:12:52,952 I thought that since she's 2236 01:12:52,953 --> 01:12:55,553 so smart, if anything was bad 2237 01:12:55,554 --> 01:12:57,152 or not a safe situation 2238 01:12:57,153 --> 01:12:59,152 or a safe place, that she 2239 01:12:59,153 --> 01:13:01,620 would leave. 2240 01:13:01,621 --> 01:13:05,620 And she tried to that night. 2241 01:13:05,621 --> 01:13:06,620 On the night of 2242 01:13:06,621 --> 01:13:09,320 may 1, 2010, Shannan met up 2243 01:13:09,321 --> 01:13:10,953 with her driver, Michael pak, 2244 01:13:10,954 --> 01:13:12,253 in Manhattan. 2245 01:13:12,254 --> 01:13:13,754 After Shannan's success on 2246 01:13:13,755 --> 01:13:15,587 craigslist, they'd both quit 2247 01:13:15,588 --> 01:13:16,887 the escort agency they worked 2248 01:13:16,888 --> 01:13:20,122 for and gone freelance together. 2249 01:13:20,155 --> 01:13:21,122 We're like, "all right, 2250 01:13:21,122 --> 01:13:21,955 forget this, you know? 2251 01:13:21,956 --> 01:13:23,087 We can just do it ourselves." 2252 01:13:23,088 --> 01:13:25,254 So... yeah, so we did. 2253 01:13:25,255 --> 01:13:26,055 You know, cut out 2254 01:13:26,056 --> 01:13:28,056 the middleman. 2255 01:13:28,089 --> 01:13:28,856 That night, 2256 01:13:28,857 --> 01:13:30,822 pak says Shannan posted her ad 2257 01:13:30,823 --> 01:13:32,322 not on craigslist 2258 01:13:32,323 --> 01:13:33,423 but on a rival site 2259 01:13:33,424 --> 01:13:34,855 called backpage. 2260 01:13:34,856 --> 01:13:36,188 She was booked by a client 2261 01:13:36,189 --> 01:13:38,288 named Joseph brewer who lived 2262 01:13:38,289 --> 01:13:39,423 in the gated community of 2263 01:13:39,424 --> 01:13:41,556 oak beach. 2264 01:13:41,557 --> 01:13:42,789 Shannan had been in his house 2265 01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:44,723 for about two hours when brewer 2266 01:13:44,724 --> 01:13:46,023 called Michael pak into 2267 01:13:46,024 --> 01:13:47,524 the house. 2268 01:13:47,525 --> 01:13:49,289 She freaked out. 2269 01:13:49,290 --> 01:13:50,057 She said, "you guys 2270 01:13:50,058 --> 01:13:52,323 are trying to kill me." 2271 01:13:52,324 --> 01:13:53,323 She went behind the couch, 2272 01:13:53,324 --> 01:13:55,457 crouched down, and then I... 2273 01:13:55,458 --> 01:13:57,057 So I went there, and I looked 2274 01:13:57,058 --> 01:13:58,224 at her, and I said, you know, 2275 01:13:58,225 --> 01:13:59,624 "Shannan, what are you doing?" 2276 01:13:59,625 --> 01:14:00,824 You know, and then I was trying 2277 01:14:00,825 --> 01:14:01,890 to think, you know, "is she 2278 01:14:01,891 --> 01:14:03,491 really messed up on drugs or..." 2279 01:14:03,492 --> 01:14:04,725 So I tried to test her by 2280 01:14:04,726 --> 01:14:06,525 asking her, "have you seen 2281 01:14:06,526 --> 01:14:08,324 the movie fear and loathing in 2282 01:14:08,325 --> 01:14:11,725 Las Vegas?" 2283 01:14:11,726 --> 01:14:13,125 She said, "yes." 2284 01:14:13,126 --> 01:14:13,992 So I thought, "oh, okay. 2285 01:14:13,992 --> 01:14:14,792 So she is coherent, then. 2286 01:14:14,793 --> 01:14:16,827 She's just acting." 2287 01:14:18,427 --> 01:14:19,326 And then, you know, I heard, 2288 01:14:19,327 --> 01:14:21,559 like, a 911 operator, a lady 2289 01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,960 on her phone. 2290 01:14:23,993 --> 01:14:24,960 And that's when I realized, 2291 01:14:24,961 --> 01:14:25,960 "oh, she's on the phone 2292 01:14:25,961 --> 01:14:27,959 with 911." 2293 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,427 So I thought, "oh, she's trying 2294 01:14:29,428 --> 01:14:30,327 to set me up." 2295 01:14:30,327 --> 01:14:30,993 She's saying, you know, 2296 01:14:30,993 --> 01:14:31,694 "you guys are trying 2297 01:14:31,694 --> 01:14:32,428 to kill me." 2298 01:14:32,428 --> 01:14:33,260 She wants me to leave, 2299 01:14:33,261 --> 01:14:36,327 so I left. 2300 01:14:36,328 --> 01:14:37,228 The driver was back 2301 01:14:37,229 --> 01:14:38,993 in his car when he says he saw 2302 01:14:38,994 --> 01:14:40,660 Shannan running from the house 2303 01:14:40,661 --> 01:14:42,594 and started to follow her. 2304 01:14:42,595 --> 01:14:43,562 I turned the lights on 2305 01:14:43,562 --> 01:14:44,529 and everything, and I drove 2306 01:14:44,530 --> 01:14:46,127 slowly, and I said, "Shannan, 2307 01:14:46,128 --> 01:14:47,128 where are you, Shannan?" 2308 01:14:47,129 --> 01:14:48,128 You know, 'cause there were, 2309 01:14:48,129 --> 01:14:50,528 like, high... high bushes. 2310 01:14:50,529 --> 01:14:52,128 You could see a car coming, 2311 01:14:52,129 --> 01:14:53,694 and it was stopping and going, 2312 01:14:53,695 --> 01:14:55,261 stopping and going. 2313 01:14:55,262 --> 01:14:56,462 I ran down off the deck, 2314 01:14:56,463 --> 01:14:57,462 and I met him over there, 2315 01:14:57,463 --> 01:14:59,328 and I stopped his car. 2316 01:14:59,329 --> 01:15:00,195 He said he's gonna call 2317 01:15:00,195 --> 01:15:01,063 the cops, and I said, "no, 2318 01:15:01,063 --> 01:15:02,030 you don't have to do that." 2319 01:15:02,031 --> 01:15:03,229 At that point, she bolted out 2320 01:15:03,230 --> 01:15:07,229 and ran down the road that way. 2321 01:15:07,230 --> 01:15:09,029 He took off after her. 2322 01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:11,531 That was the last I saw of her. 2323 01:15:13,431 --> 01:15:15,830 I couldn't find her. 2324 01:15:15,831 --> 01:15:17,630 I called her name, and then 2325 01:15:17,631 --> 01:15:20,230 I called her on the phone. 2326 01:15:20,231 --> 01:15:21,131 And I said, "Shannan, 2327 01:15:21,132 --> 01:15:24,497 where are you?" 2328 01:15:24,498 --> 01:15:25,864 I couldn't find her. 2329 01:15:25,865 --> 01:15:28,198 That's it. 2330 01:15:30,098 --> 01:15:31,032 That was the last 2331 01:15:31,033 --> 01:15:33,664 time Shannan was seen alive. 2332 01:15:33,665 --> 01:15:35,498 Police questioned Joseph brewer 2333 01:15:35,499 --> 01:15:37,164 and Michael pak, but neither is 2334 01:15:37,165 --> 01:15:39,699 a suspect in her disappearance. 2335 01:15:47,733 --> 01:15:49,298 Okay, everybody, 2336 01:15:49,299 --> 01:15:51,198 we're ready to start. 2337 01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:54,099 And good afternoon. 2338 01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:56,866 We're hoping that by having 2339 01:15:56,867 --> 01:15:57,866 this press conference and 2340 01:15:57,867 --> 01:15:59,467 getting the message out 2341 01:15:59,468 --> 01:16:00,866 to the public that somebody 2342 01:16:00,867 --> 01:16:02,333 will recognize somebody, 2343 01:16:02,334 --> 01:16:03,333 and that will be a break 2344 01:16:03,334 --> 01:16:05,435 in the case. 2345 01:16:08,068 --> 01:16:10,267 By September 2011, 2346 01:16:10,268 --> 01:16:11,867 the DNA was coming back on 2347 01:16:11,868 --> 01:16:14,067 the new, unidentified victims: 2348 01:16:14,068 --> 01:16:15,067 Three women who'd been 2349 01:16:15,068 --> 01:16:16,868 dismembered, an Asian man 2350 01:16:16,869 --> 01:16:19,300 beaten to death, and a child. 2351 01:16:19,301 --> 01:16:20,135 They were thought at first 2352 01:16:20,136 --> 01:16:21,201 to be the separate victims 2353 01:16:21,202 --> 01:16:23,535 of separate killers, but strange 2354 01:16:23,536 --> 01:16:27,235 new links were now emerging. 2355 01:16:27,236 --> 01:16:29,536 This is a mystery 2356 01:16:29,537 --> 01:16:32,436 with a lot of twists and turns. 2357 01:16:32,437 --> 01:16:34,436 Like the fifth 2358 01:16:34,437 --> 01:16:36,169 victim, the body parts of one 2359 01:16:36,170 --> 01:16:37,436 of the women had been found 2360 01:16:37,437 --> 01:16:39,437 over a decade earlier in another 2361 01:16:39,438 --> 01:16:41,437 long island town. 2362 01:16:41,438 --> 01:16:42,570 She and the child, 2363 01:16:42,571 --> 01:16:43,969 about 18 months old, 2364 01:16:43,970 --> 01:16:46,771 were wearing matching jewelry. 2365 01:16:46,804 --> 01:16:48,770 The toddler now was 2366 01:16:48,771 --> 01:16:50,437 connected. 2367 01:16:50,438 --> 01:16:53,438 It appears to be the mom. 2368 01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:54,638 We know that sex workers 2369 01:16:54,639 --> 01:16:56,103 sometimes take their toddlers 2370 01:16:56,104 --> 01:16:57,103 with them. 2371 01:16:57,104 --> 01:17:00,504 As crazy as it sounds, 2372 01:17:00,505 --> 01:17:01,439 it happens. 2373 01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,604 The other twist was, the 2374 01:17:04,605 --> 01:17:05,771 the Asian male was wearing 2375 01:17:05,772 --> 01:17:07,439 women's clothes. 2376 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:11,539 Very small stature, slim. 2377 01:17:11,540 --> 01:17:12,972 Again, the theory is that this 2378 01:17:12,973 --> 01:17:13,972 person may have been working 2379 01:17:13,973 --> 01:17:16,072 in the sex business. 2380 01:17:16,073 --> 01:17:18,705 It also emerged 2381 01:17:18,706 --> 01:17:20,105 that another unidentified 2382 01:17:20,106 --> 01:17:21,506 victim was linked with 2383 01:17:21,507 --> 01:17:23,440 a grisly discovery 15 years 2384 01:17:23,441 --> 01:17:27,473 earlier on nearby fire island. 2385 01:17:27,474 --> 01:17:28,873 One of our retired detectives 2386 01:17:28,874 --> 01:17:30,706 called the homicide squad 2387 01:17:30,707 --> 01:17:32,106 and said, "you should look 2388 01:17:32,107 --> 01:17:34,140 at the legs that were found 2389 01:17:34,141 --> 01:17:38,140 in 1996." 2390 01:17:38,141 --> 01:17:41,541 And the DNA matched up. 2391 01:17:41,542 --> 01:17:42,574 The police were now 2392 01:17:42,575 --> 01:17:43,974 working on the theory that 2393 01:17:43,975 --> 01:17:45,442 every one of the victims 2394 01:17:45,443 --> 01:17:46,941 discovered was connected to the 2395 01:17:46,942 --> 01:17:48,941 sex trade, and that led them to 2396 01:17:48,942 --> 01:17:51,476 a very frightening conclusion. 2397 01:17:56,443 --> 01:17:58,342 When ten bodies 2398 01:17:58,343 --> 01:17:59,742 were discovered on long island 2399 01:17:59,743 --> 01:18:02,008 last winter, it seemed possible 2400 01:18:02,009 --> 01:18:03,443 that police had accidentally 2401 01:18:03,444 --> 01:18:04,809 stumbled on the dumping ground 2402 01:18:04,810 --> 01:18:07,743 of several different killers. 2403 01:18:07,744 --> 01:18:10,109 This winter, police are pursuing 2404 01:18:10,110 --> 01:18:11,809 a new theory. 2405 01:18:11,810 --> 01:18:15,444 Serial killers evolve. 2406 01:18:15,445 --> 01:18:17,176 They change in how they do 2407 01:18:17,177 --> 01:18:20,176 things. 2408 01:18:20,177 --> 01:18:21,444 We believe it's one person, 2409 01:18:21,445 --> 01:18:23,445 one killer. 2410 01:18:24,745 --> 01:18:25,578 They think he 2411 01:18:25,579 --> 01:18:27,977 started killing 15 years ago. 2412 01:18:27,978 --> 01:18:30,445 But in 2007, he refined his 2413 01:18:30,446 --> 01:18:33,011 methods and went online. 2414 01:18:33,012 --> 01:18:34,811 Maureen brainard-Barnes was 2415 01:18:34,812 --> 01:18:36,011 the first victim connected 2416 01:18:36,012 --> 01:18:37,811 to craigslist, and the others 2417 01:18:37,812 --> 01:18:42,812 followed in 2009 and 2010. 2418 01:18:42,813 --> 01:18:43,812 They're gonna find more 2419 01:18:43,813 --> 01:18:46,612 bodies, because a serial killer 2420 01:18:46,613 --> 01:18:48,012 doesn't stop killing. 2421 01:18:48,013 --> 01:18:49,012 He keeps killing till 2422 01:18:49,013 --> 01:18:51,247 he gets caught. 2423 01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,080 The one person 2424 01:18:52,081 --> 01:18:54,447 police believe is not connected 2425 01:18:54,448 --> 01:18:56,979 is Shannan. 2426 01:18:56,980 --> 01:18:57,948 There doesn't seem to be 2427 01:18:57,949 --> 01:18:59,447 any connection. 2428 01:18:59,448 --> 01:19:01,681 Everything is different. 2429 01:19:01,714 --> 01:19:03,547 It is some coincidence that 2430 01:19:03,548 --> 01:19:05,047 she went missing in the same 2431 01:19:05,048 --> 01:19:06,581 area where the bodies were 2432 01:19:06,582 --> 01:19:08,913 dumped. 2433 01:19:08,914 --> 01:19:10,313 But when you look at it closely 2434 01:19:10,314 --> 01:19:12,113 and you look at the evidence, 2435 01:19:12,114 --> 01:19:13,714 Shannan Gilbert is a separate 2436 01:19:13,715 --> 01:19:16,314 case. 2437 01:19:16,315 --> 01:19:17,282 So the woman whose 2438 01:19:17,283 --> 01:19:19,081 disappearance started it all 2439 01:19:19,082 --> 01:19:22,014 is still missing. 2440 01:19:22,015 --> 01:19:23,615 It appears that whatever else 2441 01:19:23,616 --> 01:19:25,048 happened to Shannan that night, 2442 01:19:25,049 --> 01:19:26,114 she did not encounter 2443 01:19:26,115 --> 01:19:27,682 the serial killer who murdered 2444 01:19:27,683 --> 01:19:29,982 the other four women, 2445 01:19:29,983 --> 01:19:31,450 which leaves her mother, 2446 01:19:31,451 --> 01:19:32,949 like the other families, 2447 01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:34,983 searching for answers. 2448 01:19:40,151 --> 01:19:41,349 Me and the other victims' 2449 01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:45,350 families, we're one big family 2450 01:19:45,351 --> 01:19:46,750 now, 2451 01:19:46,751 --> 01:19:47,718 not by blood. 2452 01:19:47,719 --> 01:19:50,917 We were brought as a family 2453 01:19:50,918 --> 01:19:53,351 by tragedy. 2454 01:19:56,318 --> 01:19:57,317 We're just trying to help 2455 01:19:57,318 --> 01:19:59,117 each other right now. 2456 01:19:59,118 --> 01:20:00,717 Let everybody get through it 2457 01:20:00,718 --> 01:20:03,317 until they find this guy. 2458 01:20:03,318 --> 01:20:04,452 And I just hope they find him 2459 01:20:04,453 --> 01:20:06,251 in our lifetime, that it don't 2460 01:20:06,252 --> 01:20:08,418 take more deaths. 2461 01:20:08,419 --> 01:20:09,418 I mean, for all we know, 2462 01:20:09,419 --> 01:20:10,353 he could have picked two or 2463 01:20:10,353 --> 01:20:11,319 three girls up this summer 2464 01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:12,319 and be doing the same thing 2465 01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,353 to them. 2466 01:20:22,353 --> 01:20:23,753 My name is Mari Gilbert. 2467 01:20:23,754 --> 01:20:25,286 My daughter is Shannan. 2468 01:20:25,287 --> 01:20:27,420 She is out there. 2469 01:20:27,421 --> 01:20:28,720 We're gonna find her, 2470 01:20:28,721 --> 01:20:29,919 and we're gonna find out who 2471 01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,120 hurt Shannan and all the others. 2472 01:20:33,121 --> 01:20:35,720 Thank you. 2473 01:20:35,721 --> 01:20:36,720 In the parking lot 2474 01:20:36,721 --> 01:20:38,554 beside oak beach, the five 2475 01:20:38,555 --> 01:20:39,489 families gathered for 2476 01:20:39,490 --> 01:20:40,820 a press conference to keep 2477 01:20:40,821 --> 01:20:41,854 the search for Shannan 2478 01:20:41,855 --> 01:20:45,021 in the public eye. 2479 01:20:45,022 --> 01:20:45,956 In the last year, 2480 01:20:45,957 --> 01:20:47,121 they have grown increasingly 2481 01:20:47,122 --> 01:20:48,089 critical of the police 2482 01:20:48,090 --> 01:20:50,555 investigation. 2483 01:20:50,556 --> 01:20:53,121 When we call Suffolk's police 2484 01:20:53,122 --> 01:20:55,522 department, the only thing 2485 01:20:55,523 --> 01:20:57,321 they tell us is, "like we told 2486 01:20:57,322 --> 01:20:58,256 you before, we ain't gonna 2487 01:20:58,257 --> 01:20:59,856 tell you nothing." 2488 01:20:59,857 --> 01:21:01,056 Well, you guys need to realize 2489 01:21:01,057 --> 01:21:02,922 something. 2490 01:21:02,923 --> 01:21:03,922 Not only was our daughters 2491 01:21:03,923 --> 01:21:05,922 victims; Their families 2492 01:21:05,923 --> 01:21:07,523 were also victims. 2493 01:21:07,524 --> 01:21:08,723 For you to sit there and tell us 2494 01:21:08,724 --> 01:21:09,922 that, "we can't tell you 2495 01:21:09,923 --> 01:21:11,723 nothing," that makes us think 2496 01:21:11,724 --> 01:21:12,923 that you're putting this off 2497 01:21:12,924 --> 01:21:13,923 to the side... 2498 01:21:13,924 --> 01:21:15,723 My daughter was Melissa 2499 01:21:15,724 --> 01:21:16,624 Barthelemy. 2500 01:21:16,624 --> 01:21:17,558 Because of the profession 2501 01:21:17,559 --> 01:21:21,157 that these girls had. 2502 01:21:21,158 --> 01:21:22,157 I don't blame them for 2503 01:21:22,158 --> 01:21:23,357 being upset. 2504 01:21:23,358 --> 01:21:24,991 They want a conclusion. 2505 01:21:24,992 --> 01:21:27,458 They want this person caught. 2506 01:21:27,459 --> 01:21:30,091 But the occupation of the victim 2507 01:21:30,092 --> 01:21:31,091 has no bearing on the 2508 01:21:31,092 --> 01:21:31,892 investigation. 2509 01:21:31,893 --> 01:21:34,526 We have a murderer out there. 2510 01:21:42,893 --> 01:21:43,826 The five families 2511 01:21:43,827 --> 01:21:45,025 have also become an online 2512 01:21:45,026 --> 01:21:46,460 network sharing what they've 2513 01:21:46,461 --> 01:21:47,593 learnt about the sex trade 2514 01:21:47,594 --> 01:21:49,025 their daughters and sisters 2515 01:21:49,026 --> 01:21:50,793 were drawn into. 2516 01:21:50,794 --> 01:21:52,626 They're all angry at craigslist. 2517 01:21:52,627 --> 01:21:54,460 Five women have now been killed 2518 01:21:54,461 --> 01:21:55,993 after advertising as escorts 2519 01:21:55,994 --> 01:21:57,461 on its pages. 2520 01:21:57,462 --> 01:21:58,361 They thought it was 2521 01:21:58,362 --> 01:22:02,926 a safe way to advertise, 2522 01:22:02,927 --> 01:22:03,927 and I really think that 2523 01:22:03,928 --> 01:22:05,126 craigslist should have more 2524 01:22:05,127 --> 01:22:07,293 people monitoring these sites, 2525 01:22:07,294 --> 01:22:08,294 and they need to be held 2526 01:22:08,294 --> 01:22:09,794 accountable. 2527 01:22:09,795 --> 01:22:10,728 Craigslist has 2528 01:22:10,729 --> 01:22:11,927 twice shut down its adult 2529 01:22:11,928 --> 01:22:13,662 content pages and tightened 2530 01:22:13,663 --> 01:22:15,194 its regulations. 2531 01:22:15,195 --> 01:22:16,162 But even in the new 2532 01:22:16,163 --> 01:22:17,662 "casual encounters" section, 2533 01:22:17,663 --> 01:22:18,995 there is not much doubt about 2534 01:22:18,996 --> 01:22:25,062 the nature of some of the ads. 2535 01:22:25,063 --> 01:22:26,529 Lorraine Ela is determined 2536 01:22:26,530 --> 01:22:27,663 to warn others 2537 01:22:27,664 --> 01:22:29,162 about the way ordinary American 2538 01:22:29,163 --> 01:22:30,829 girls get recruited for 2539 01:22:30,830 --> 01:22:32,796 the sex trade. 2540 01:22:32,797 --> 01:22:34,996 They target certain people. 2541 01:22:34,997 --> 01:22:36,196 And my daughter, being 2542 01:22:36,197 --> 01:22:38,996 softhearted, friendly, outgoing, 2543 01:22:38,997 --> 01:22:41,464 that's what these men look for. 2544 01:22:41,465 --> 01:22:45,630 He goes after the weak ones. 2545 01:22:45,631 --> 01:22:47,997 And my daughter was one of them. 2546 01:22:47,998 --> 01:22:48,865 Melissa Cann 2547 01:22:48,866 --> 01:22:50,797 recently found an ad her sister 2548 01:22:50,798 --> 01:22:52,498 Maureen posted on a website 2549 01:22:52,499 --> 01:22:54,498 called sexy jobs. 2550 01:22:54,499 --> 01:22:56,465 She believes this was the start 2551 01:22:56,466 --> 01:22:57,731 of the road that led Maureen 2552 01:22:57,732 --> 01:22:59,765 to escorting. 2553 01:22:59,766 --> 01:23:00,831 You know how they always say 2554 01:23:00,832 --> 01:23:02,465 weed is the gateway drug 2555 01:23:02,466 --> 01:23:04,831 to cocaine or heroin. 2556 01:23:04,832 --> 01:23:06,466 This is considered the gateway 2557 01:23:06,467 --> 01:23:08,832 drug of the sex industry. 2558 01:23:08,833 --> 01:23:10,466 They post theirselves up on 2559 01:23:10,467 --> 01:23:14,632 there for, like, phone sex jobs 2560 01:23:14,633 --> 01:23:16,832 or stripping or, you know, 2561 01:23:16,833 --> 01:23:18,232 modeling, nude modeling. 2562 01:23:18,233 --> 01:23:19,832 So it's legit. 2563 01:23:19,833 --> 01:23:22,199 But this is how some girls 2564 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,467 get found by, you know, 2565 01:23:24,468 --> 01:23:26,667 escort agencies. 2566 01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:27,733 Her brother, will, 2567 01:23:27,734 --> 01:23:28,933 never stopped searching 2568 01:23:28,934 --> 01:23:30,468 for Maureen. 2569 01:23:30,469 --> 01:23:31,833 He died in a motorcycle accident 2570 01:23:31,834 --> 01:23:34,601 two years after she disappeared. 2571 01:23:34,602 --> 01:23:35,701 The other mothers have become 2572 01:23:35,702 --> 01:23:38,734 Melissa's surrogate family. 2573 01:23:38,735 --> 01:23:40,333 I'm very, very fortunate 2574 01:23:40,334 --> 01:23:41,701 to ever have met them, 2575 01:23:41,702 --> 01:23:44,335 ever to know them. 2576 01:23:52,736 --> 01:23:53,603 Shannan's mother 2577 01:23:53,604 --> 01:23:55,869 is still out there looking. 2578 01:23:55,870 --> 01:23:57,335 The mystery of her daughter's 2579 01:23:57,336 --> 01:24:01,869 disappearance is still unsolved. 2580 01:24:01,870 --> 01:24:03,470 I don't believe that I'll 2581 01:24:03,471 --> 01:24:07,670 find her alive. 2582 01:24:07,671 --> 01:24:10,070 But it's okay, 2583 01:24:10,071 --> 01:24:12,670 because she's still always 2584 01:24:12,671 --> 01:24:14,870 gonna be with me every day. 2585 01:24:14,871 --> 01:24:18,471 And no matter how long it takes 2586 01:24:18,472 --> 01:24:19,871 and no matter how many times 2587 01:24:19,872 --> 01:24:23,671 I need to come here, 2588 01:24:23,672 --> 01:24:25,705 I'm gonna bring her home. 2589 01:24:32,338 --> 01:24:33,738 As for the killer, 2590 01:24:33,739 --> 01:24:35,472 police have received over 1,200 2591 01:24:35,473 --> 01:24:37,839 tips suggesting his identity. 2592 01:24:41,873 --> 01:24:43,473 One given to the Barthelemy 2593 01:24:43,474 --> 01:24:45,205 family's lawyer was from 2594 01:24:45,206 --> 01:24:46,173 a woman who believed it was 2595 01:24:46,174 --> 01:24:48,873 her former husband. 2596 01:24:48,874 --> 01:24:52,873 One tip stands out. 2597 01:24:52,874 --> 01:24:55,306 It talks about a man who is 2598 01:24:55,307 --> 01:25:00,074 involved in the technical world. 2599 01:25:00,075 --> 01:25:05,174 He's got an elaborate basement. 2600 01:25:05,175 --> 01:25:08,340 He has an ex-wife who described 2601 01:25:08,341 --> 01:25:11,675 him as being mysteriously absent 2602 01:25:11,676 --> 01:25:13,274 during the periods of times 2603 01:25:13,275 --> 01:25:17,476 that these girls were abducted. 2604 01:25:17,477 --> 01:25:19,108 And I'm hopeful that it will 2605 01:25:19,109 --> 01:25:20,709 lead to an arrest 2606 01:25:20,710 --> 01:25:22,141 and a conviction 2607 01:25:22,142 --> 01:25:24,843 and a life sentence. 2608 01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:28,043 That information 2609 01:25:28,044 --> 01:25:29,043 has been passed on 2610 01:25:29,044 --> 01:25:30,376 to the police. 2611 01:25:30,377 --> 01:25:32,076 For now, the investigation 2612 01:25:32,077 --> 01:25:33,809 cannot rule out the possibility 2613 01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:36,477 that they will find more bodies 2614 01:25:36,478 --> 01:25:37,977 or that the killer 2615 01:25:37,978 --> 01:25:41,177 will kill again. 2616 01:25:41,178 --> 01:25:42,377 Any time there's a serial 2617 01:25:42,378 --> 01:25:46,578 killer loose, that's a concern. 2618 01:25:46,579 --> 01:25:47,877 We believe that killer 2619 01:25:47,878 --> 01:25:50,478 made a mistake at some point. 2620 01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,512 We have to find that mistake. 2621 01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:57,811 I would also like to say 2622 01:25:57,812 --> 01:25:59,978 to the women in the sex business 2623 01:25:59,979 --> 01:26:02,345 to be careful in their contacts. 2624 01:26:09,513 --> 01:26:10,579 Let me give the advice to you 2625 01:26:10,580 --> 01:26:11,779 that was given to me 2626 01:26:11,780 --> 01:26:13,179 that I never took heed of: 2627 01:26:13,180 --> 01:26:14,179 When you go too fast 2628 01:26:14,180 --> 01:26:15,179 and you get to the top, 2629 01:26:15,180 --> 01:26:16,580 there's nowhere to go but down, 2630 01:26:16,581 --> 01:26:18,947 one way or the other. 2631 01:26:27,881 --> 01:26:29,280 When you're making that money 2632 01:26:29,281 --> 01:26:32,280 and you're hustling these guys 2633 01:26:32,281 --> 01:26:34,481 and, you know, you're thinking 2634 01:26:34,482 --> 01:26:35,481 that you're living on top 2635 01:26:35,482 --> 01:26:37,281 of the world, you just need 2636 01:26:37,282 --> 01:26:39,381 to stop and think, "well, 2637 01:26:39,382 --> 01:26:42,214 what's after the top?" 2638 01:26:42,215 --> 01:26:43,214 We just went through life 2639 01:26:43,215 --> 01:26:44,582 carefree. 2640 01:26:44,583 --> 01:26:45,782 If any damage was gonna be done, 2641 01:26:45,783 --> 01:26:47,182 it was gonna be from us, 2642 01:26:47,183 --> 01:26:49,848 and it doesn't work like that. 2643 01:26:49,849 --> 01:26:51,483 It just doesn't. 2644 01:26:51,484 --> 01:26:54,483 Not for me, not for her. 2645 01:26:54,484 --> 01:26:56,884 Not for you. 2646 01:27:05,284 --> 01:27:06,684 I'm not ever gonna say, 2647 01:27:06,685 --> 01:27:09,884 "no, I won't work." 2648 01:27:09,885 --> 01:27:11,083 From time to time, I always put 2649 01:27:11,084 --> 01:27:12,684 ads up just to see what bites, 2650 01:27:12,685 --> 01:27:14,084 as far as my sister's killer 2651 01:27:14,085 --> 01:27:18,250 goes. 2652 01:27:18,251 --> 01:27:22,284 It'll intrigue him. 2653 01:27:22,285 --> 01:27:26,886 And that's what I'm hoping I do, 168104

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