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It's just such an evil,
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dirty place.
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It's isolated.
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It's desolate.
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It's a rich community.
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You've got doctors and cops
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and very, very wealthy people
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who live there.
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No one is ever gonna think that
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that's a bad, dangerous area,
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but it is.
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On the
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south shore of long island,
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a major police investigation
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is under way.
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Ten bodies have been found
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so far on a single stretch
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of coast.
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The chief of detectives calls
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and says, "they've found
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another body."
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And then sometime later,
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he calls and says, "we've found
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another body."
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And then another one.
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The crimes may be
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the work of more than one
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serial killer.
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They're gonna find more
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bodies, because a serial killer
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doesn't stop killing.
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He keeps killing till
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he gets caught.
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The first four
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victims were young women,
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found just miles from where
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a fifth vanished after
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a terrified call to 911.
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When me and my mom got
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that phone call that Megan
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was missing, I knew that
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if they found her, it wasn't
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gonna be a happy outcome.
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Mother's instinct.
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As their families
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search for answers, we ask:
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Who were these women?
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Why were four of them hidden
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side by side on a long island
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beach?
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And who is the killer,
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still out there?
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Right now, all right,
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for anyone to come out and say
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that it's a specific person,
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a specific occupation,
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or a specific type, I think,
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is unfair, and I think it's
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mere suspicion.
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It's mere speculation.
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All right, right now,
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it could be anybody.
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On the night of
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may 1, 2010,
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a woman who worked as an escort
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in the online sex trade left
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Manhattan for a routine job
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on long island.
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Her name was Shannan Gilbert.
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On that night, the client
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contacted her on craigslist.
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She called him,
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made arrangements to
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meet him at his house.
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She had her driver,
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Michael pak, drive her there.
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He said he was in long
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island, so we were like,
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"oh, no, too far."
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But then he offered two hours
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for $450.
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And so since there were not
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any other appointments,
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she said, "okay, let's go."
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Michael pak
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was Shannan's business partner.
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They split the profits
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of the bookings she got online.
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It took, like, a while
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to get there.
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It got darker and darker.
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I was like, "oh, my god,
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you know, wow.
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Where are we going?"
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They were heading
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that night to a client named
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Joseph brewer, who lived in
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a gated community called
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oak beach.
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He drove out in an S.U.V.,
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and then he opened the gate,
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and then he said follow him.
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It was very dark, so I could
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only see his lights.
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And then he got out of his car,
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and Shannan got out, and they
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went in, up to his house.
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While she was at the client's
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house, something went wrong.
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Around 5:00 A.M.,
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he came out.
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I was shocked, you know?
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Why is he coming out, right?
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'Cause I was, like,
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sleeping in the car.
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And then he was, like,
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you know, "get her out of here."
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I followed him up into
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his house.
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Shannan was standing there
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right in front of the kitchen.
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I was like, "Shannan, let's go."
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When I said, "let's go,"
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he grabbed her from behind,
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and I think he was trying
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to push her out, but, you know,
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instead of just pushing her out,
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he kind of grabbed her.
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So she freaked out.
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And she said, um...
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Oh, what did she say?
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Um...
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"You guys are trying
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to kill me."
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That's when the 911 call
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started.
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Screaming, "help me,
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help me, help me."
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I was in, shaving,
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at 5:00 in the morning.
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And somebody knocked on the door
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and was screaming, "help me,
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help me."
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I asked her what the problem
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was, and she wouldn't
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answer me.
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She just kept staring at me,
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yelling, "help me, help me."
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At 5:00 A.M.,
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Gus Coletti also called 911.
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When he told Shannan the police
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were on their way, she ran.
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People saw a black truck
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taunting her as she's running
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down the street, screaming
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for help.
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At that point, she bolted out
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and ran down the road that way.
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He took off after her.
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That was the last I saw of her.
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Between Joseph brewer's house
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and the front gate,
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my daughter disappeared.
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Shannan Gilbert's
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911 call lasted 23 minutes.
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By the time police arrived
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20 minutes later, there was
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no trace of her.
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Michael pak was questioned about
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her disappearance, and so was
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Joseph brewer.
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Neither man was arrested
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or named as a suspect.
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Her boyfriend, Alex, called
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me and told me that he hadn't
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seen Shannan in two days.
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He wanted to know if I had heard
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anything or if she was over here
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with us, and I told him no.
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Her phone was off,
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so I figured maybe
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her phone died.
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Later on, the next day,
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her phone was still off,
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and that's when I got worried,
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and that's when I made
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phone calls, you know?
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I called pak.
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I called her sister.
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And, you know, 'cause I didn't
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know what was going on.
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You know, I had a very uneasy
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feeling in my stomach because
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they always, you know, got into
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fights, but it was never, like,
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to the point where he was gonna
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call me up and say, "hey,
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have you heard from
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your sister?"
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So it was...
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It was really frightening.
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She would look in the mirror,
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and she would cry.
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She would sing all the time.
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My nickname for her was diva,
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'cause she always tried to act
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like a diva, you know?
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Like, she always had
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the sunglasses on
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and the makeup and the hair
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and the clothes and the purses
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and the shoes.
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It was fun to watch, but
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sometimes she was over the top,
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you know?
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She wanted to write.
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She wanted to be a singer.
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And recently, she had enrolled
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in college.
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Along with her
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college studies, Shannan did
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her online escort work.
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She'd started at 21
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when she moved to Jersey city.
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The escort service showed
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her the glamorous side,
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all the money and all the things
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that she could get.
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It was quick.
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It was fast.
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It was, you know, a shortcut.
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Shannan met her
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boyfriend at the agency.
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He was one of the drivers there.
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I met her doing this,
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so it was kind of hard for me
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to tell her to stop.
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It was, like, a good connection
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we had, you know?
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I was never her pimp.
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I was always... I was...
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We started off as friends.
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And, um...
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And then it led to that,
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you know?
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To boyfriend and girlfriend.
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She did this on her own.
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She wanted to do this, you know?
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I never forced her to do
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nothing.
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Shannan vanished
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from the south shore
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of long island on the 1st
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of may, 2010.
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As the summer season began,
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there was still no sign of her.
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We tried to file a missing
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persons report after Shannan
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was missing for two days.
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We contacted the long island
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police department, and they
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basically dismissed us.
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They told us that we would have
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to file it with New Jersey
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because that's where she
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was living.
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And it didn't even make sense
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to me.
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We were calling the police,
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calling the police:
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"When are you gonna look?
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When are you gonna search?
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When are you gonna try to find
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Shannan?
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Do something."
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Immediately after
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Shannan's disappearance,
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the police searched the house
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of the client, Joseph brewer,
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and, over the summer,
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checked some land nearby.
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At the end of the summer,
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they came back to question
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the key eyewitness on the night
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she went missing.
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We didn't hear another word
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about it until August,
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and then in August,
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a plainclothes detective
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in the missing persons bureau
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came to my door, and he wanted
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to know what she was wearing,
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what I remember about her.
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So I told him everything I knew,
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and I asked him, "why did it
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take four months for you to get
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around to looking for her?"
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That winter of
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2010, there was still no trace
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of Shannan.
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Then, on December the 11th,
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a policeman from Suffolk county
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k-9 unit set out with his dog
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on a routine training exercise
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along the isolated ocean parkway
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near oak beach.
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While searching the area
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with a k-9 dog, a cadaver dog,
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an officer came on the remains
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of a female.
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All of a sudden, there was,
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like, three helicopters going
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back and forth right over
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the rooftops, very low
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and making a racket.
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I mean, they were shaking
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the building.
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I said, "oh, boy.
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They must have found something."
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We had detectives come
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to the house.
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They told me that they were
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almost 100% sure it was
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my sister.
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And I just remember thinking,
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"oh, my god, she's dead.
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I can't believe it."
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Two days later,
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police began a forensic search
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of the area.
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No one was prepared for
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what they found.
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Down now.
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Everyone's gonna have to go.
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You're gonna need to go
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out past the Robert Moses
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causeway bridge.
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The entire roadway is gonna
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shut down.
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I was in police headquarters,
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in my office, when I got a call
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that they had found another
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body.
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And it was unbelievable.
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And then sometime later,
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the chief of detectives
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called me and says,
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"we found another body."
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And then another one.
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And I can tell you that
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that was really a shock.
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The police found
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four bodies in all
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hidden just off the ocean
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parkway.
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They were lying about
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500 feet apart,
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wrapped in burlap sacks.
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The bodies were placed
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on top of the ground,
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but they were just dumped
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over the brush area,
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which is on the side
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of the highway.
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The police do have
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a terrifying mystery
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on their hands.
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We know at least two of the
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bodies may be that of escorts,
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but none of the bodies
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have been officially identified.
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Everyone assumed
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when the first body was found
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that it was Shannan Gilbert.
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Now there were four,
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it seemed certain
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she'd be one of them.
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Oh, wow.
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That day, when I heard
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the bodies were found,
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like, my... I pretty much, like...
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My chest, I felt...
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I just felt...
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Oh, man, I just can't even...
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I thought that...
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I thought they found her.
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Shannan had one
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key feature that made her
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easy to identify.
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Her boyfriend, Alex, had once
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hit her so hard, she had
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a metal plate in her chin.
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One day, she came,
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you know, a little aggressively,
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you know?
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She got pissed off.
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She was cursing me out,
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kind of hit me.
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And I kind of, like,
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went out of line, and I hit her.
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And I didn't think I hit her
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that hard, but I hit her,
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and I actually, you know,
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fractured her jaw.
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I felt so bad that after that,
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I never hit her again, ever,
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00:13:04,950 --> 00:13:08,151
ever again, never hit her.
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It was that plate
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forensic investigators
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00:13:10,551 --> 00:13:12,683
were searching for.
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Three days after
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the discoveries,
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the police called the family
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with news.
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She was ruled out.
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I can't even describe the
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00:13:24,618 --> 00:13:26,385
emotion that we were feeling.
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It was like a roller coaster.
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It was just crazy,
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00:13:29,786 --> 00:13:31,685
crazy situation.
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I'm glad that none of the bodies
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were hers, but at the same time,
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it just...
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The question remains, you know?
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Where is she?
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Three miles from
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the gated community where
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Shannan vanished, the forensic
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00:13:52,288 --> 00:13:54,220
investigation continued,
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00:13:54,221 --> 00:13:55,953
and new details were beginning
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First, how the victims died.
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The cause of their death
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00:14:00,988 --> 00:14:03,620
was asphyxiation.
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We surmised that they were
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00:14:05,422 --> 00:14:06,421
killed soon after they
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00:14:06,422 --> 00:14:08,221
disappeared,
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00:14:08,222 --> 00:14:10,221
maybe not immediately
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00:14:10,222 --> 00:14:12,288
but soon thereafter.
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00:14:12,289 --> 00:14:12,956
This was
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00:14:12,956 --> 00:14:13,822
the beginning of a crime
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00:14:13,823 --> 00:14:16,321
that is still unsolved today.
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00:14:16,322 --> 00:14:17,322
The man who had to catch
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00:14:17,323 --> 00:14:18,888
this killer was the police
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commissioner of Suffolk county.
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00:14:20,956 --> 00:14:22,722
I've seen a lot of violence,
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00:14:22,723 --> 00:14:26,356
murders; You name it.
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00:14:26,357 --> 00:14:27,556
But this was the largest case
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00:14:27,557 --> 00:14:30,589
that I've ever handled.
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00:14:30,590 --> 00:14:33,622
They were all sex workers.
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00:14:33,623 --> 00:14:34,591
They were all dumped
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00:14:34,592 --> 00:14:37,290
in the same place.
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00:14:37,291 --> 00:14:38,290
Cause and manner of death
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00:14:38,291 --> 00:14:39,857
was the same.
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00:14:39,858 --> 00:14:41,057
I don't think it's a coincidence
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00:14:41,058 --> 00:14:42,857
that four bodies ended up
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00:14:42,858 --> 00:14:44,191
in this area.
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00:14:44,192 --> 00:14:45,191
You have these common
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denominators which are pointing
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00:14:46,791 --> 00:14:48,458
to one person.
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00:14:48,459 --> 00:14:49,491
We're looking at that.
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00:14:49,492 --> 00:14:50,292
We're looking at that,
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00:14:50,292 --> 00:14:51,159
that we could have
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00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,359
a serial killer.
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00:15:04,893 --> 00:15:07,225
Long island is quick to
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00:15:07,226 --> 00:15:10,425
the city but yet far enough out
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00:15:10,426 --> 00:15:12,293
where people can have beautiful
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00:15:12,294 --> 00:15:16,160
summer homes, walk on the sand,
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00:15:16,161 --> 00:15:19,760
but it's also very cold
469
00:15:19,761 --> 00:15:21,827
and isolated.
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00:15:23,794 --> 00:15:25,626
In December 2010,
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00:15:25,627 --> 00:15:27,026
the quiet suburban streets
472
00:15:27,027 --> 00:15:28,227
of long island were at
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00:15:28,228 --> 00:15:29,794
the center of a major
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00:15:29,795 --> 00:15:31,527
unfolding crime.
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00:15:31,528 --> 00:15:32,994
The police announced that
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00:15:32,995 --> 00:15:34,727
a serial killer was at work
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00:15:34,728 --> 00:15:36,594
on the island.
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00:15:36,595 --> 00:15:38,027
Suffolk county is a very
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00:15:38,028 --> 00:15:40,828
safe, peaceful community.
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00:15:40,862 --> 00:15:42,228
But to think that you have
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00:15:42,229 --> 00:15:44,428
a serial killer living
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00:15:44,429 --> 00:15:46,628
and working and playing
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00:15:46,629 --> 00:15:48,228
in your community
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00:15:48,229 --> 00:15:50,163
is disturbing to people.
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Police are blocking off
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ocean parkway for yet another
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00:15:53,164 --> 00:15:54,895
day to find new leads in
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00:15:54,896 --> 00:15:56,363
the Shannan Gilbert case
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00:15:56,364 --> 00:15:57,763
and any information on
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00:15:57,764 --> 00:15:59,563
the serial killer...
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We didn't want to cause
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00:16:00,930 --> 00:16:02,197
an uproar...
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00:16:02,198 --> 00:16:03,863
Yet another disturbing
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00:16:03,864 --> 00:16:04,597
discovery.
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00:16:04,598 --> 00:16:05,597
But it was necessary
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00:16:05,598 --> 00:16:06,829
to get that information out.
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00:16:06,830 --> 00:16:07,996
This has become a very,
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00:16:07,997 --> 00:16:09,797
very large crime scene.
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00:16:09,798 --> 00:16:10,665
And it raised the profile
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00:16:10,666 --> 00:16:11,665
of the case.
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00:16:11,666 --> 00:16:14,064
That's obvious.
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00:16:14,065 --> 00:16:14,865
The police
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discovered the killer's
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four victims in undergrowth
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on the island's south shore.
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They were lying three miles from
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a gated community called
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oak beach.
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A fifth woman, Shannan Gilbert,
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had disappeared there
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00:16:28,499 --> 00:16:29,899
seven months earlier.
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00:16:29,932 --> 00:16:31,166
But Shannan was not one
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00:16:31,167 --> 00:16:34,167
of the bodies.
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00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,199
The question now was,
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00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,166
who were they?
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When me and my mom got
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that phone call that Megan
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00:16:41,168 --> 00:16:43,966
was missing, I knew that
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00:16:43,967 --> 00:16:45,167
if they found her, it wasn't
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00:16:45,168 --> 00:16:47,201
gonna be a happy outcome.
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00:16:49,634 --> 00:16:51,834
Mother's instinct.
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00:16:54,001 --> 00:16:54,801
A month after
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00:16:54,802 --> 00:16:55,967
Shannan Gilbert went missing
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from oak beach, Lorraine Ela's
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daughter disappeared from
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a long island hotel 20 miles
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00:17:01,801 --> 00:17:03,368
to the north.
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00:17:03,369 --> 00:17:04,868
Lorraine had been searching for
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her for six months.
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00:17:08,069 --> 00:17:09,068
Megan was seen leaving
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the hotel room at 1:30 in
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00:17:11,069 --> 00:17:13,269
the morning by herself,
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00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:16,836
and she vanished.
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00:17:24,437 --> 00:17:25,802
You could meet Megan the first
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00:17:25,803 --> 00:17:27,002
time, and you'd fall right in
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00:17:27,003 --> 00:17:27,903
love with her.
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00:17:27,904 --> 00:17:29,303
She didn't take crap
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00:17:29,304 --> 00:17:31,503
from nobody.
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00:17:31,504 --> 00:17:33,503
She was in and out of jail
540
00:17:33,504 --> 00:17:36,370
on little petty things.
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00:17:36,371 --> 00:17:38,970
She drank.
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00:17:38,971 --> 00:17:40,171
And I think she got that one
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00:17:40,172 --> 00:17:42,371
from me.
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00:17:42,372 --> 00:17:44,971
But when she had her daughter,
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00:17:44,972 --> 00:17:46,171
she had actually started
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00:17:46,172 --> 00:17:48,238
straightening her life out.
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00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:53,238
She did everything for
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00:17:53,239 --> 00:17:54,538
her daughter.
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00:17:54,539 --> 00:17:57,205
Her daughter was her life.
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00:17:57,206 --> 00:17:58,205
Her first Christmas,
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00:17:58,206 --> 00:17:59,972
my daughter spent almost
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00:17:59,973 --> 00:18:02,239
$1,000 on her for Christmas.
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00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:03,638
What does a 3 1/2 month old kid
554
00:18:03,639 --> 00:18:04,638
know about Christmas?
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00:18:04,639 --> 00:18:06,673
Nothing.
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00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,439
Her birthdays, Megan wouldn't
557
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,439
mind dumping 500, 600, 700 bucks
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00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,439
a whack.
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00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:15,439
She wanted her daughter to have
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00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,907
the best of everything.
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00:18:24,408 --> 00:18:25,807
She wanted to save up enough
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00:18:25,808 --> 00:18:27,174
money so she could get
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00:18:27,175 --> 00:18:28,175
an apartment and move out
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00:18:28,176 --> 00:18:29,540
and be able to pay her own rent
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00:18:29,541 --> 00:18:31,875
for a while.
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00:18:36,176 --> 00:18:38,175
I think Megan was into
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00:18:38,176 --> 00:18:41,341
the escort maybe a month or two
568
00:18:41,342 --> 00:18:43,176
when I found out.
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00:18:43,177 --> 00:18:44,741
And the person that told me,
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00:18:44,742 --> 00:18:46,808
I didn't believe him.
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00:18:46,809 --> 00:18:48,409
So I logged into craigslist
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myself.
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00:18:50,210 --> 00:18:51,209
Let me tell you, it's not
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00:18:51,210 --> 00:18:52,409
an easy thing to go through.
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00:18:53,610 --> 00:18:55,177
I think I went through
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00:18:55,178 --> 00:18:56,576
hundreds of ads before
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00:18:56,577 --> 00:18:58,743
I found Megan.
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00:19:02,678 --> 00:19:03,544
Megan posted her
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00:19:03,545 --> 00:19:05,076
escort ad on the website
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00:19:05,077 --> 00:19:06,743
craigslist, because alongside
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00:19:06,744 --> 00:19:08,178
its listings for cars
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00:19:08,179 --> 00:19:09,843
and golf clubs and apartments,
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00:19:09,844 --> 00:19:11,211
there was another service
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00:19:11,212 --> 00:19:12,810
available.
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00:19:12,811 --> 00:19:15,211
How craigslist works is,
586
00:19:15,212 --> 00:19:16,879
we would go and get a visa card.
587
00:19:16,944 --> 00:19:20,211
Okay, we would put $25 on it.
588
00:19:20,212 --> 00:19:21,411
You'd get online.
589
00:19:21,412 --> 00:19:23,012
You go to post the ad.
590
00:19:23,045 --> 00:19:24,245
So I would have, "italia,
591
00:19:24,246 --> 00:19:25,811
new girl in your area."
592
00:19:25,812 --> 00:19:27,412
Then the description stating
593
00:19:27,413 --> 00:19:28,280
my height and my weight,
594
00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:29,180
you know, my services
595
00:19:29,181 --> 00:19:30,445
that I provide.
596
00:19:30,446 --> 00:19:31,845
And then you post...
597
00:19:31,846 --> 00:19:35,246
I posted two pictures.
598
00:19:35,247 --> 00:19:36,845
Actually, can you give me
599
00:19:36,846 --> 00:19:39,612
a second?
600
00:19:39,613 --> 00:19:41,713
If I can get on here...
601
00:19:41,714 --> 00:19:43,913
Um, were these pictures
602
00:19:43,914 --> 00:19:45,947
right here.
603
00:19:46,981 --> 00:19:48,181
The guy calls you,
604
00:19:48,182 --> 00:19:49,047
"can you tell me what
605
00:19:49,047 --> 00:19:49,847
your services are?"
606
00:19:49,847 --> 00:19:50,647
And I would tell him:
607
00:19:50,647 --> 00:19:51,448
I dance topless.
608
00:19:51,448 --> 00:19:52,248
I go completely nude,
609
00:19:52,249 --> 00:19:53,647
and I offer a massage.
610
00:19:53,648 --> 00:19:55,647
And, you know, it runs about
611
00:19:55,648 --> 00:19:57,447
$175 for an hour, or $125 for
612
00:19:57,448 --> 00:20:00,047
the half hour, cash only.
613
00:20:00,048 --> 00:20:01,182
And it usually takes me about
614
00:20:01,183 --> 00:20:02,048
45 minutes, if you're in
615
00:20:02,049 --> 00:20:03,048
the local area, to get to where
616
00:20:03,049 --> 00:20:05,149
you're at.
617
00:20:10,416 --> 00:20:12,015
In the old days, prostitutes
618
00:20:12,016 --> 00:20:14,183
were in the open, and they
619
00:20:14,184 --> 00:20:15,582
were waving down cars
620
00:20:15,583 --> 00:20:18,184
and encountering men.
621
00:20:18,217 --> 00:20:21,183
If a prostitute was victimized
622
00:20:21,184 --> 00:20:24,584
violently by a John,
623
00:20:24,617 --> 00:20:25,584
typically, there would be
624
00:20:25,585 --> 00:20:26,584
witnesses who could tell us
625
00:20:26,585 --> 00:20:27,584
a little bit about what type
626
00:20:27,585 --> 00:20:29,749
of automobile she got into.
627
00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:31,150
Now with the Internet,
628
00:20:31,151 --> 00:20:33,350
it's all gone indoors.
629
00:20:33,351 --> 00:20:35,350
It's all gone really
630
00:20:35,351 --> 00:20:37,851
underground.
631
00:20:42,252 --> 00:20:43,450
We tried talking to Megan
632
00:20:43,451 --> 00:20:45,950
about it, telling her that,
633
00:20:45,951 --> 00:20:46,950
"it's not safe.
634
00:20:46,951 --> 00:20:47,950
You're putting your life
635
00:20:47,951 --> 00:20:49,751
in jeopardy when you do this.
636
00:20:49,752 --> 00:20:52,951
Why... why are you doing it?
637
00:20:52,952 --> 00:20:56,152
You need to stop."
638
00:20:56,153 --> 00:20:57,152
Megan's mother was
639
00:20:57,153 --> 00:20:58,685
convinced that whatever happened
640
00:20:58,686 --> 00:21:00,286
to her daughter on long island
641
00:21:00,287 --> 00:21:01,818
had started a year earlier
642
00:21:01,819 --> 00:21:02,951
when she was approached
643
00:21:02,952 --> 00:21:04,419
in Portland, Maine, by a man
644
00:21:04,420 --> 00:21:06,453
from New York.
645
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,886
She met Akeem at a club
646
00:21:14,887 --> 00:21:17,553
in Portland.
647
00:21:17,554 --> 00:21:20,553
I think he stalked her
648
00:21:20,554 --> 00:21:22,188
for a while before he actually
649
00:21:22,189 --> 00:21:24,188
approached her,
650
00:21:24,189 --> 00:21:26,953
to see how she was.
651
00:21:26,954 --> 00:21:27,987
And I guess they started
652
00:21:27,988 --> 00:21:30,388
talking, and eventually,
653
00:21:30,389 --> 00:21:31,754
he told her that he knows how
654
00:21:31,755 --> 00:21:32,754
she can make some quick,
655
00:21:32,755 --> 00:21:36,189
fast money.
656
00:21:36,190 --> 00:21:37,355
So my daughter took him up
657
00:21:37,356 --> 00:21:39,390
on it.
658
00:21:46,323 --> 00:21:47,256
The night Megan
659
00:21:47,257 --> 00:21:48,689
disappeared on long island,
660
00:21:48,690 --> 00:21:50,223
she'd been an escort for just
661
00:21:50,224 --> 00:21:51,822
five months.
662
00:21:51,823 --> 00:21:53,390
Akeem, the man who may
663
00:21:53,391 --> 00:21:54,523
or may not have been her pimp,
664
00:21:54,524 --> 00:21:56,723
was with her.
665
00:21:56,724 --> 00:21:57,557
He was the one that reported
666
00:21:57,558 --> 00:21:59,290
her missing.
667
00:21:59,291 --> 00:22:00,656
Akeem contacted my mom.
668
00:22:00,657 --> 00:22:01,923
He's like, "I went out
669
00:22:01,924 --> 00:22:02,791
last night.
670
00:22:02,792 --> 00:22:03,791
Megan called me and told me
671
00:22:03,792 --> 00:22:05,391
that she was going down
672
00:22:05,392 --> 00:22:06,756
to the store, and that when she
673
00:22:06,757 --> 00:22:08,191
got back, she'd call me,
674
00:22:08,192 --> 00:22:09,557
and she never did."
675
00:22:09,558 --> 00:22:10,957
He went to the hotel
676
00:22:10,958 --> 00:22:11,858
and knocked on the door.
677
00:22:11,859 --> 00:22:13,724
Megan didn't answer.
678
00:22:13,725 --> 00:22:14,724
So they opened up the door,
679
00:22:14,725 --> 00:22:17,326
and Megan wasn't there.
680
00:22:21,426 --> 00:22:22,825
I knew that she was doing
681
00:22:22,826 --> 00:22:25,692
more than dancing, but I gave
682
00:22:25,693 --> 00:22:29,458
her the benefit of the doubt.
683
00:22:29,459 --> 00:22:31,858
She had also told me that akeem
684
00:22:31,859 --> 00:22:33,426
was in the bathroom with her.
685
00:22:33,427 --> 00:22:35,426
They had this sign that
686
00:22:35,427 --> 00:22:36,826
if she made some kind of noise,
687
00:22:36,827 --> 00:22:39,626
he'd come out and protect her.
688
00:22:39,627 --> 00:22:40,826
But I found out later on
689
00:22:40,827 --> 00:22:43,794
that he always left the room.
690
00:22:47,495 --> 00:22:48,993
At 1:30 A.M.,
691
00:22:48,994 --> 00:22:50,527
Megan left her bag
692
00:22:50,528 --> 00:22:51,560
and possessions in the room
693
00:22:51,561 --> 00:22:52,228
and walked alone into
694
00:22:52,229 --> 00:22:54,527
the parking lot.
695
00:22:54,528 --> 00:22:55,694
If she had only stayed
696
00:22:55,695 --> 00:22:57,894
in the hotel room, she would
697
00:22:57,895 --> 00:22:59,928
be here today.
698
00:23:19,096 --> 00:23:20,396
We want to bring to justice
699
00:23:20,397 --> 00:23:23,596
this animal that has obviously
700
00:23:23,597 --> 00:23:24,762
taken the lives of a number
701
00:23:24,763 --> 00:23:26,563
of people.
702
00:23:26,564 --> 00:23:27,962
We encourage anyone that has
703
00:23:27,963 --> 00:23:29,363
any information to call
704
00:23:29,364 --> 00:23:32,197
our hotline.
705
00:23:32,198 --> 00:23:33,197
The first insights
706
00:23:33,198 --> 00:23:34,763
into the mind of the serial
707
00:23:34,764 --> 00:23:36,198
killer were now emerging
708
00:23:36,199 --> 00:23:37,198
from the investigation
709
00:23:37,199 --> 00:23:38,563
on long island.
710
00:23:38,564 --> 00:23:40,364
He'd hidden his four victims
711
00:23:40,365 --> 00:23:41,764
in a place which suggested
712
00:23:41,765 --> 00:23:43,364
he knew the area.
713
00:23:43,365 --> 00:23:45,198
It was perfectly chosen
714
00:23:45,199 --> 00:23:46,331
to make a forensic search
715
00:23:46,332 --> 00:23:50,199
almost impossible.
716
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,499
People don't walk that area.
717
00:23:51,500 --> 00:23:53,098
They don't walk their dogs.
718
00:23:53,099 --> 00:23:54,798
They don't walk across that area
719
00:23:54,799 --> 00:23:56,500
to go to the beach.
720
00:23:56,533 --> 00:23:59,098
And so the bodies could lie
721
00:23:59,099 --> 00:24:01,201
there without being discovered.
722
00:24:10,567 --> 00:24:12,066
We needed to get some resources
723
00:24:12,067 --> 00:24:15,400
High-rise buckets that
724
00:24:15,401 --> 00:24:17,334
can look down on the terrain.
725
00:24:17,335 --> 00:24:18,800
We got cadaver dogs.
726
00:24:18,801 --> 00:24:20,301
We got recruits from our
727
00:24:20,302 --> 00:24:21,701
police training bureau.
728
00:24:21,702 --> 00:24:23,701
And so we commenced
729
00:24:23,702 --> 00:24:25,501
a comprehensive search
730
00:24:25,502 --> 00:24:28,268
from one end of the beach area
731
00:24:28,269 --> 00:24:30,436
to the other.
732
00:24:33,068 --> 00:24:33,968
As that search
733
00:24:33,969 --> 00:24:35,768
got under way, another family
734
00:24:35,769 --> 00:24:38,968
contacted the police.
735
00:24:38,969 --> 00:24:40,968
Shannan Gilbert, it turned out,
736
00:24:40,969 --> 00:24:42,368
wasn't the only woman missing
737
00:24:42,369 --> 00:24:43,969
on long island.
738
00:24:44,003 --> 00:24:45,369
She'd disappeared seven months
739
00:24:45,370 --> 00:24:47,968
earlier, in may 2010.
740
00:24:47,969 --> 00:24:49,769
A month later, Megan waterman
741
00:24:49,770 --> 00:24:52,203
vanished from a nearby hotel.
742
00:24:52,204 --> 00:24:53,703
Now it emerged a third woman
743
00:24:53,704 --> 00:24:54,437
had been missing since
744
00:24:54,438 --> 00:24:56,836
September.
745
00:24:56,837 --> 00:25:01,437
Her name was Amber Costello.
746
00:25:01,438 --> 00:25:02,837
Someone calls me.
747
00:25:02,838 --> 00:25:04,437
And they were like,
748
00:25:04,438 --> 00:25:06,004
"have you heard from Amber?"
749
00:25:06,005 --> 00:25:08,738
And I said, "no, why?"
750
00:25:08,771 --> 00:25:09,738
They're like, "because four
751
00:25:09,738 --> 00:25:10,671
bodies have been found
752
00:25:10,705 --> 00:25:12,238
on Gilgo beach, and they
753
00:25:12,239 --> 00:25:13,438
believe, you know, that the
754
00:25:13,439 --> 00:25:16,239
girls worked on craigslist."
755
00:25:16,272 --> 00:25:18,238
Right then, I knew that one
756
00:25:18,239 --> 00:25:19,238
of those girls were gonna be
757
00:25:19,239 --> 00:25:21,239
my sister.
758
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:22,438
At the time of
759
00:25:22,439 --> 00:25:24,239
her disappearance, Amber was
760
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:25,871
living in a small town just
761
00:25:25,872 --> 00:25:27,339
seven miles north of the beach
762
00:25:27,340 --> 00:25:28,372
where the bodies were
763
00:25:28,373 --> 00:25:31,706
discovered.
764
00:25:31,707 --> 00:25:32,706
We had one rule in our
765
00:25:32,707 --> 00:25:35,506
Nobody fights alone.
766
00:25:35,507 --> 00:25:36,906
And that's just the way it is.
767
00:25:36,907 --> 00:25:38,906
So that's how it was
768
00:25:38,907 --> 00:25:40,940
with me and her.
769
00:25:44,274 --> 00:25:45,273
She was built like
770
00:25:45,274 --> 00:25:46,208
a brick house.
771
00:25:46,208 --> 00:25:47,008
She was short,
772
00:25:47,009 --> 00:25:49,407
but she was very curvy.
773
00:25:49,408 --> 00:25:51,007
She was a beautiful girl.
774
00:25:51,008 --> 00:25:51,841
She really was.
775
00:25:51,842 --> 00:25:53,641
She was a beautiful girl.
776
00:25:53,642 --> 00:25:56,241
And...
777
00:25:56,242 --> 00:25:58,441
She... she had a smile and a laugh
778
00:25:58,442 --> 00:25:59,641
that would just light up a room.
779
00:25:59,642 --> 00:26:00,475
It really would.
780
00:26:00,476 --> 00:26:01,508
I know everybody says that,
781
00:26:01,509 --> 00:26:02,343
but it really... it would make
782
00:26:02,343 --> 00:26:03,210
you laugh.
783
00:26:03,211 --> 00:26:04,210
She had this retarded laugh
784
00:26:04,211 --> 00:26:05,275
that when she started laughing,
785
00:26:05,276 --> 00:26:06,675
you would just laugh at her,
786
00:26:06,676 --> 00:26:08,074
because it was the most
787
00:26:08,075 --> 00:26:09,042
hideous-sounding thing
788
00:26:09,043 --> 00:26:10,842
you ever heard, you know?
789
00:26:10,843 --> 00:26:12,609
But it made other people laugh,
790
00:26:12,610 --> 00:26:15,810
and it was great.
791
00:26:18,544 --> 00:26:21,210
How it began was, she had a
792
00:26:21,211 --> 00:26:22,543
little job at the waffle house,
793
00:26:22,544 --> 00:26:24,210
you know, busting her tail
794
00:26:24,211 --> 00:26:25,610
for nothing,
795
00:26:25,611 --> 00:26:27,643
and she just wanted more,
796
00:26:27,644 --> 00:26:30,543
fast.
797
00:26:30,544 --> 00:26:32,810
And I had a friend in college
798
00:26:32,811 --> 00:26:34,477
who owned an escort agency.
799
00:26:34,478 --> 00:26:35,811
You know, she wanted me to
800
00:26:35,812 --> 00:26:37,211
answer phones for her.
801
00:26:37,212 --> 00:26:38,311
You know, here I am,
802
00:26:38,312 --> 00:26:39,377
hearing these girls talk about
803
00:26:39,378 --> 00:26:40,078
making all this money,
804
00:26:40,078 --> 00:26:41,012
some of them, $700,
805
00:26:41,013 --> 00:26:43,245
$900 an hour, and they're not
806
00:26:43,246 --> 00:26:44,677
having sex with these guys,
807
00:26:44,678 --> 00:26:46,478
and I'm like, "there's no way."
808
00:26:46,479 --> 00:26:47,678
So Tammy was like, "why don't
809
00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:49,111
you go on a call with someone?
810
00:26:49,112 --> 00:26:50,012
If you think you can do it,
811
00:26:50,012 --> 00:26:50,646
we'll set you up."
812
00:26:50,647 --> 00:26:52,012
And I went, and it was
813
00:26:52,013 --> 00:26:52,813
a bachelor party for
814
00:26:52,814 --> 00:26:54,213
a group of golfers
815
00:26:54,214 --> 00:26:56,012
at the Beau Rivage,
816
00:26:56,013 --> 00:26:57,213
and I started doing it,
817
00:26:57,214 --> 00:26:58,213
and I was good at it.
818
00:26:58,214 --> 00:27:00,945
I made a lot of money at it.
819
00:27:00,946 --> 00:27:02,045
Kim started working
820
00:27:02,046 --> 00:27:03,413
as a high-end escort for
821
00:27:03,414 --> 00:27:05,112
a licensed agency that took
822
00:27:05,113 --> 00:27:06,679
a percentage but screened
823
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,280
its clients and had strict
824
00:27:08,281 --> 00:27:09,646
safety measures.
825
00:27:09,647 --> 00:27:11,013
I had a little travel
826
00:27:11,014 --> 00:27:11,714
suitcase, little tinker bell
827
00:27:11,715 --> 00:27:13,547
suitcase, and it had my little
828
00:27:13,548 --> 00:27:14,515
black light that I would
829
00:27:14,516 --> 00:27:15,515
hook up.
830
00:27:15,515 --> 00:27:16,248
It had my CD player with
831
00:27:16,249 --> 00:27:18,214
my music CD.
832
00:27:18,215 --> 00:27:19,314
It was kind of like a show,
833
00:27:19,315 --> 00:27:20,215
you know?
834
00:27:20,216 --> 00:27:22,114
I had a routine.
835
00:27:22,115 --> 00:27:23,081
Amber would see me traveling.
836
00:27:23,081 --> 00:27:23,915
She'd see me making
837
00:27:23,916 --> 00:27:24,915
all this money.
838
00:27:24,916 --> 00:27:26,114
You know, I had a brand-new car.
839
00:27:26,115 --> 00:27:27,914
She was like, "screw this."
840
00:27:27,915 --> 00:27:28,914
You know, she was like,
841
00:27:28,915 --> 00:27:30,315
"I'm coming to work with you."
842
00:27:30,316 --> 00:27:31,881
And I'm like, "okay, come on."
843
00:27:31,882 --> 00:27:33,881
You know, join the train,
844
00:27:33,882 --> 00:27:34,749
you know?
845
00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:36,216
Thinking that it would never
846
00:27:36,217 --> 00:27:38,715
turn out the way it did.
847
00:27:38,716 --> 00:27:40,449
Amber decided
848
00:27:40,450 --> 00:27:42,282
to work out of long island
849
00:27:42,283 --> 00:27:44,081
and in march 2010,
850
00:27:44,082 --> 00:27:45,449
nine months before the bodies
851
00:27:45,450 --> 00:27:47,217
were found, moved to a town
852
00:27:47,218 --> 00:27:52,016
just north of oak beach.
853
00:27:52,017 --> 00:27:53,383
She also decided that
854
00:27:53,384 --> 00:27:54,483
in this quiet neighborhood,
855
00:27:54,484 --> 00:27:55,717
she'd work in a different way
856
00:27:55,718 --> 00:27:56,883
from her sister,
857
00:27:56,884 --> 00:27:58,250
cutting out an escort agency
858
00:27:58,251 --> 00:28:00,817
and posting her own ads
859
00:28:00,818 --> 00:28:02,717
on craigslist.
860
00:28:08,918 --> 00:28:09,819
We were coming back from
861
00:28:09,820 --> 00:28:10,919
the mall, you know,
862
00:28:10,952 --> 00:28:12,318
and Kim said to me, "well,
863
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:14,318
what would you think if we were
864
00:28:14,319 --> 00:28:16,119
doing escorts?"
865
00:28:16,220 --> 00:28:17,119
I said, "listen."
866
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,219
I said, you know, "it's on you."
867
00:28:18,220 --> 00:28:20,084
I said, "but I'm not taking
868
00:28:20,085 --> 00:28:21,084
any money from you.
869
00:28:21,085 --> 00:28:22,485
I'm not answering any phones.
870
00:28:22,486 --> 00:28:23,885
I'm not arranging any dates."
871
00:28:23,886 --> 00:28:24,885
I said... you know, I said,
872
00:28:24,886 --> 00:28:25,885
"I'm not getting caught up
873
00:28:25,886 --> 00:28:27,885
in it, and, you know, like...
874
00:28:27,886 --> 00:28:29,085
Like I'm a pimp."
875
00:28:29,086 --> 00:28:30,220
She's like, "well, I'm gonna
876
00:28:30,221 --> 00:28:31,353
post on craigslist, you know.
877
00:28:31,354 --> 00:28:35,220
Would you mind posting with me?"
878
00:28:35,221 --> 00:28:37,220
I was like, "we'll try it.
879
00:28:37,221 --> 00:28:37,954
If you're doing it,
880
00:28:37,954 --> 00:28:38,787
I'm doing it."
881
00:28:38,788 --> 00:28:41,221
So here we go,
882
00:28:41,222 --> 00:28:42,221
taking our pictures.
883
00:28:42,222 --> 00:28:43,886
You know, not explicit.
884
00:28:43,887 --> 00:28:45,487
I was in jeans and a tank top,
885
00:28:45,488 --> 00:28:47,086
girl-next-door type.
886
00:28:47,087 --> 00:28:49,221
Her, pretty much the same thing.
887
00:28:49,222 --> 00:28:50,587
And we posted.
888
00:28:50,588 --> 00:28:51,555
They had their credit card.
889
00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:52,422
They went online.
890
00:28:52,423 --> 00:28:54,222
And here it is on craigslist,
891
00:28:54,223 --> 00:28:55,222
this whole section
892
00:28:55,223 --> 00:28:56,222
about escorts.
893
00:28:56,223 --> 00:28:57,222
And, you know, all it is
894
00:28:57,223 --> 00:28:58,854
is just ads for... you know,
895
00:28:58,855 --> 00:29:00,755
for prostitution.
896
00:29:00,756 --> 00:29:01,788
You know, so they pay,
897
00:29:01,789 --> 00:29:02,788
and they put this ad up.
898
00:29:02,789 --> 00:29:04,788
And I mean, they hit "enter"
899
00:29:04,789 --> 00:29:05,988
on the computer, and then...
900
00:29:07,056 --> 00:29:07,889
And lo and behold,
901
00:29:07,890 --> 00:29:08,889
within 20 minutes,
902
00:29:08,890 --> 00:29:12,088
it rang off the hook.
903
00:29:12,089 --> 00:29:13,922
I mean, I couldn't believe it.
904
00:29:13,923 --> 00:29:15,323
I was like, "holy."
905
00:29:15,324 --> 00:29:17,088
I said, "I can't even believe
906
00:29:17,089 --> 00:29:18,756
that it's this fast."
907
00:29:18,757 --> 00:29:19,756
I'm telling you, we probably
908
00:29:19,757 --> 00:29:22,556
made $3,000 that first week
909
00:29:22,557 --> 00:29:23,756
apiece.
910
00:29:23,757 --> 00:29:25,557
From that moment on,
911
00:29:25,558 --> 00:29:27,956
you know, it was engines on.
912
00:29:27,957 --> 00:29:29,757
You know, ground control
913
00:29:29,758 --> 00:29:31,557
to major Tom, you know?
914
00:29:31,558 --> 00:29:32,757
It's just...
915
00:29:32,758 --> 00:29:34,557
You know?
916
00:29:34,558 --> 00:29:36,924
I mean, the phone would ring
917
00:29:36,925 --> 00:29:38,124
1:00, 2:00, 3:00, 4:00,
918
00:29:38,125 --> 00:29:39,957
5:00, 6:00, 7:00, 8:00,
919
00:29:39,958 --> 00:29:41,791
all the way around the clock.
920
00:29:42,726 --> 00:29:43,559
It didn't matter.
921
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,692
It just... nonstop.
922
00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:50,227
There was one
923
00:29:50,228 --> 00:29:51,591
downside to the fast money of
924
00:29:51,592 --> 00:29:53,958
Amber's long island operation:
925
00:29:53,959 --> 00:29:56,226
The risks were high.
926
00:29:56,227 --> 00:29:57,359
In an escort agency,
927
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,592
the calls were screened
928
00:29:58,593 --> 00:29:59,859
and logged.
929
00:29:59,860 --> 00:30:00,727
If you didn't come back from
930
00:30:00,728 --> 00:30:02,126
a job, the police would be
931
00:30:02,127 --> 00:30:03,592
called in minutes.
932
00:30:03,593 --> 00:30:06,092
Here, Amber's only protection
933
00:30:06,093 --> 00:30:08,460
was her instincts.
934
00:30:08,461 --> 00:30:09,460
You got guys on there
935
00:30:09,461 --> 00:30:10,860
that don't want to pay $75.
936
00:30:10,861 --> 00:30:12,027
You know what I'm saying?
937
00:30:12,028 --> 00:30:13,027
And then you've got girls that
938
00:30:13,028 --> 00:30:14,627
will see guys for $75 on there,
939
00:30:14,628 --> 00:30:15,693
and I mean, I think that's
940
00:30:15,694 --> 00:30:16,561
ridiculous.
941
00:30:16,561 --> 00:30:17,429
You know what I'm saying?
942
00:30:17,429 --> 00:30:18,395
They'll do anything,
943
00:30:18,396 --> 00:30:19,395
and they'll meet up anywhere,
944
00:30:19,395 --> 00:30:20,262
and there's no restrictions.
945
00:30:20,263 --> 00:30:22,628
There's no rules.
946
00:30:22,629 --> 00:30:24,961
By September 2010,
947
00:30:24,962 --> 00:30:26,694
another factor was influencing
948
00:30:26,695 --> 00:30:28,661
Amber's judgment.
949
00:30:28,662 --> 00:30:30,061
She and her roommate
950
00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:32,430
were using heroin.
951
00:30:38,630 --> 00:30:39,829
At that point, she was taking
952
00:30:39,830 --> 00:30:40,730
calls that I would never
953
00:30:40,731 --> 00:30:41,829
have took.
954
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:43,430
For Amber, at the end,
955
00:30:43,431 --> 00:30:46,396
it was keeping that high going.
956
00:30:46,397 --> 00:30:47,396
You know, she had to make
957
00:30:47,397 --> 00:30:49,396
that money.
958
00:30:49,397 --> 00:30:50,297
I thought, "damn.
959
00:30:50,297 --> 00:30:51,197
What did I do?"
960
00:30:51,198 --> 00:30:52,963
You know, what did I do?
961
00:30:52,964 --> 00:30:56,963
I really, you know,
962
00:30:56,964 --> 00:30:58,163
screwed her up,
963
00:30:58,164 --> 00:31:01,597
because unfortunately,
964
00:31:01,598 --> 00:31:02,797
it's not gonna go a good path
965
00:31:02,798 --> 00:31:03,797
for her, you know?
966
00:31:03,798 --> 00:31:04,632
It's not about the money
967
00:31:04,632 --> 00:31:05,432
anymore.
968
00:31:05,433 --> 00:31:06,831
It's about keeping that high
969
00:31:06,832 --> 00:31:08,998
going.
970
00:31:11,533 --> 00:31:13,097
On September 2nd,
971
00:31:13,098 --> 00:31:14,465
Amber went online
972
00:31:14,466 --> 00:31:16,598
and posted an ad on craigslist
973
00:31:16,599 --> 00:31:18,633
under her usual alias.
974
00:31:22,234 --> 00:31:23,233
I had talked to Amber
975
00:31:23,234 --> 00:31:24,033
that day.
976
00:31:24,034 --> 00:31:25,798
We talked every day.
977
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:26,766
She said that this guy
978
00:31:26,766 --> 00:31:27,567
had called.
979
00:31:27,567 --> 00:31:28,367
She set up a call for
980
00:31:28,367 --> 00:31:29,234
later that night.
981
00:31:29,234 --> 00:31:30,033
It was for a couple hundred
982
00:31:30,034 --> 00:31:33,966
dollars.
983
00:31:33,967 --> 00:31:34,966
You know, he was a...
984
00:31:34,967 --> 00:31:38,666
You know, right away, he...
985
00:31:38,667 --> 00:31:39,799
You know, he asked her
986
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,600
about, you know, like...
987
00:31:43,601 --> 00:31:44,468
You know, "how much is it
988
00:31:44,468 --> 00:31:45,301
per hour?"
989
00:31:45,302 --> 00:31:46,700
You know, and,
990
00:31:46,701 --> 00:31:47,635
"well, what if I wanted
991
00:31:47,636 --> 00:31:48,834
to keep you for, you know...
992
00:31:48,835 --> 00:31:50,268
For the night?"
993
00:31:50,269 --> 00:31:52,668
He called her three times
994
00:31:52,669 --> 00:31:53,767
that day.
995
00:31:53,768 --> 00:31:54,967
You know, she just...
996
00:31:54,968 --> 00:31:56,100
The guy kept calling her,
997
00:31:56,101 --> 00:31:56,969
you know?
998
00:31:56,970 --> 00:31:58,235
And I kept hearing her,
999
00:31:58,236 --> 00:32:01,401
you know, like, hamming him up.
1000
00:32:01,402 --> 00:32:02,303
She gave him directions
1001
00:32:02,304 --> 00:32:03,901
on how to get to the house.
1002
00:32:03,902 --> 00:32:04,836
A few minutes after 10:00,
1003
00:32:04,837 --> 00:32:05,836
he called, and I guess that was
1004
00:32:05,836 --> 00:32:06,637
him telling her that
1005
00:32:06,638 --> 00:32:08,035
he's down there.
1006
00:32:08,036 --> 00:32:10,436
She was getting gussied up.
1007
00:32:10,437 --> 00:32:11,636
I'm like, "here's the
1008
00:32:11,637 --> 00:32:12,470
cell phone.
1009
00:32:12,471 --> 00:32:13,502
Take your cell phone."
1010
00:32:13,503 --> 00:32:14,702
She just said, "I'm not
1011
00:32:14,703 --> 00:32:16,869
gonna take it."
1012
00:32:16,870 --> 00:32:18,069
Everything was just completely
1013
00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:19,003
different than normal.
1014
00:32:19,003 --> 00:32:19,970
Normally, she would take this
1015
00:32:19,971 --> 00:32:21,237
and that, you know, her bag,
1016
00:32:21,238 --> 00:32:23,570
her... the cell phone.
1017
00:32:23,571 --> 00:32:27,370
Well, this time, she wasn't.
1018
00:32:27,371 --> 00:32:28,970
I walked her outside, you know,
1019
00:32:28,971 --> 00:32:32,070
and she walked down the block.
1020
00:32:32,071 --> 00:32:33,870
She... you know, and, you know,
1021
00:32:33,871 --> 00:32:35,003
that's it.
1022
00:32:35,004 --> 00:32:37,639
So I went back into the house.
1023
00:32:40,605 --> 00:32:41,604
God.
1024
00:32:41,605 --> 00:32:44,104
What did she go through?
1025
00:32:44,105 --> 00:32:46,939
What she must have went through.
1026
00:32:50,706 --> 00:32:51,673
I know she was probably
1027
00:32:51,673 --> 00:32:52,573
thinking, "god, I wish
1028
00:32:52,574 --> 00:32:53,573
Kim was here."
1029
00:32:53,574 --> 00:32:55,740
You know?
1030
00:33:02,874 --> 00:33:03,973
Like Megan,
1031
00:33:03,974 --> 00:33:05,240
Amber left without a bag
1032
00:33:05,241 --> 00:33:07,306
or her phone.
1033
00:33:07,307 --> 00:33:08,906
It suggested the man they drove
1034
00:33:08,907 --> 00:33:10,840
off with, the killer still at
1035
00:33:10,841 --> 00:33:12,740
large today, does not appear
1036
00:33:12,741 --> 00:33:13,806
out of the ordinary
1037
00:33:13,807 --> 00:33:15,274
or alarming.
1038
00:33:15,275 --> 00:33:16,474
He's a man people feel
1039
00:33:16,475 --> 00:33:18,508
comfortable with.
1040
00:33:25,309 --> 00:33:29,242
In December 2010,
1041
00:33:29,243 --> 00:33:30,708
two families were waiting
1042
00:33:30,709 --> 00:33:32,242
to hear if their daughter
1043
00:33:32,243 --> 00:33:33,542
and sister were among
1044
00:33:33,543 --> 00:33:34,409
the four victims
1045
00:33:34,409 --> 00:33:35,244
of the long island
1046
00:33:35,245 --> 00:33:37,742
serial killer.
1047
00:33:37,743 --> 00:33:38,742
From the time that they came
1048
00:33:38,743 --> 00:33:42,476
and did my DNA till the day that
1049
00:33:42,477 --> 00:33:43,476
the detectives were knocking
1050
00:33:43,477 --> 00:33:45,476
on my door, it was
1051
00:33:45,477 --> 00:33:48,476
the longest month of my life.
1052
00:33:48,477 --> 00:33:50,076
Each time, the questions
1053
00:33:50,077 --> 00:33:51,444
just got more intense:
1054
00:33:51,445 --> 00:33:54,377
Tattoos, describe to a tee,
1055
00:33:54,378 --> 00:33:57,244
jewelry, shoes, anything,
1056
00:33:57,245 --> 00:33:58,377
phone calls, friends,
1057
00:33:58,378 --> 00:33:59,345
people that they could be
1058
00:33:59,346 --> 00:34:01,478
in contact with.
1059
00:34:03,246 --> 00:34:03,978
The condition
1060
00:34:03,979 --> 00:34:05,511
the bodies were found in
1061
00:34:05,512 --> 00:34:06,412
meant the only way
1062
00:34:06,413 --> 00:34:07,778
to identify the victims
1063
00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:09,378
was by matching DNA
1064
00:34:09,379 --> 00:34:11,245
extracted from the bones
1065
00:34:11,246 --> 00:34:12,745
to the DNA of the women
1066
00:34:12,746 --> 00:34:14,779
waiting for news.
1067
00:34:18,447 --> 00:34:20,045
My son calls me up,
1068
00:34:20,046 --> 00:34:21,446
told me that the detectives
1069
00:34:21,447 --> 00:34:23,646
are on their way to my house.
1070
00:34:23,647 --> 00:34:24,646
And I don't even think
1071
00:34:24,647 --> 00:34:26,613
I was home five minutes,
1072
00:34:26,647 --> 00:34:27,480
and they were knocking
1073
00:34:27,481 --> 00:34:30,879
on my door.
1074
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:32,580
But I have to...
1075
00:34:34,248 --> 00:34:36,247
I got to give them all credit
1076
00:34:36,248 --> 00:34:40,980
for the way they did it.
1077
00:34:43,581 --> 00:34:47,381
'Cause Megan's DNA actually
1078
00:34:47,382 --> 00:34:50,249
came back on her birthday.
1079
00:34:58,849 --> 00:34:59,848
There was two detectives
1080
00:34:59,849 --> 00:35:00,750
there that told me that
1081
00:35:00,751 --> 00:35:02,014
my sister had positively
1082
00:35:02,015 --> 00:35:04,582
been identified...
1083
00:35:04,583 --> 00:35:07,982
Through DNA.
1084
00:35:07,983 --> 00:35:12,782
And, uh...
1085
00:35:12,783 --> 00:35:14,683
You know, I knew.
1086
00:35:14,684 --> 00:35:15,484
I had prepared myself
1087
00:35:15,484 --> 00:35:16,284
the whole time.
1088
00:35:16,285 --> 00:35:17,383
I knew.
1089
00:35:17,384 --> 00:35:18,616
But of course, the first
1090
00:35:18,617 --> 00:35:20,016
emotion is, like,
1091
00:35:20,017 --> 00:35:22,551
you just don't want to hear it.
1092
00:35:33,018 --> 00:35:34,017
In the early days
1093
00:35:34,018 --> 00:35:35,817
of the manhunt on long island,
1094
00:35:35,818 --> 00:35:38,318
the leads came rapidly.
1095
00:35:38,319 --> 00:35:40,618
Back in 2006, a serial killer
1096
00:35:40,619 --> 00:35:42,418
had murdered four sex workers
1097
00:35:42,419 --> 00:35:43,786
on the Jersey shore,
1098
00:35:43,819 --> 00:35:45,485
and the style of the killings
1099
00:35:45,486 --> 00:35:47,519
looked similar.
1100
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,852
They were strangled.
1101
00:35:53,853 --> 00:35:55,453
And they were dumped
1102
00:35:55,454 --> 00:35:57,819
in a drainage ditch.
1103
00:35:57,820 --> 00:36:00,519
So that became a focus.
1104
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,819
We're in touch with
1105
00:36:01,820 --> 00:36:02,853
police departments
1106
00:36:02,854 --> 00:36:04,254
throughout the country,
1107
00:36:04,255 --> 00:36:05,387
because we're aware
1108
00:36:05,388 --> 00:36:07,820
that serial killers cross
1109
00:36:07,821 --> 00:36:09,855
state lines.
1110
00:36:11,255 --> 00:36:12,121
On long island,
1111
00:36:12,122 --> 00:36:13,255
police were chasing down
1112
00:36:13,256 --> 00:36:14,554
other leads, looking
1113
00:36:14,555 --> 00:36:15,322
at every aspect
1114
00:36:15,322 --> 00:36:16,256
of the dead and missing
1115
00:36:16,257 --> 00:36:18,087
women's lives.
1116
00:36:18,088 --> 00:36:19,555
They seized a laptop
1117
00:36:19,556 --> 00:36:20,588
from the man with Megan
1118
00:36:20,589 --> 00:36:22,888
on the night she disappeared.
1119
00:36:22,889 --> 00:36:23,589
He was the one who called
1120
00:36:23,590 --> 00:36:24,721
her family to report her
1121
00:36:24,722 --> 00:36:25,755
missing from the long island
1122
00:36:25,756 --> 00:36:27,655
hotel.
1123
00:36:27,656 --> 00:36:28,721
Amber's clients in her
1124
00:36:28,722 --> 00:36:29,955
craigslist operation
1125
00:36:29,956 --> 00:36:31,821
were also being scrutinized.
1126
00:36:31,822 --> 00:36:33,021
And detectives came to talk
1127
00:36:33,022 --> 00:36:34,522
to the man who witnessed it
1128
00:36:34,523 --> 00:36:35,956
from the inside.
1129
00:36:35,957 --> 00:36:37,155
The police came a couple
1130
00:36:37,156 --> 00:36:38,522
times, you know, and questioned
1131
00:36:38,523 --> 00:36:40,122
me because it was my cell phone
1132
00:36:40,123 --> 00:36:41,323
that she was using.
1133
00:36:41,324 --> 00:36:42,722
I went over all the cell phone
1134
00:36:42,723 --> 00:36:43,690
records and text messages
1135
00:36:43,691 --> 00:36:44,989
with them in depth.
1136
00:36:44,990 --> 00:36:48,623
You know, who was the regulars?
1137
00:36:48,624 --> 00:36:49,623
If there was anybody whom
1138
00:36:49,624 --> 00:36:50,623
I thought was, you know,
1139
00:36:50,624 --> 00:36:51,623
strange.
1140
00:36:51,624 --> 00:36:52,291
The shock
1141
00:36:52,292 --> 00:36:53,390
of Amber's death had helped
1142
00:36:53,391 --> 00:36:55,123
her roommate kick his drug habit
1143
00:36:55,124 --> 00:36:56,890
and start to get clean.
1144
00:36:56,891 --> 00:36:57,890
You know, they kept coming,
1145
00:36:57,891 --> 00:36:59,391
asking me questions.
1146
00:36:59,392 --> 00:37:00,791
I was only a couple months sober
1147
00:37:00,792 --> 00:37:01,692
at that point,
1148
00:37:01,725 --> 00:37:03,258
so everything wasn't
1149
00:37:03,259 --> 00:37:04,524
100% back together
1150
00:37:04,525 --> 00:37:06,324
in my head yet.
1151
00:37:06,325 --> 00:37:07,293
Shannan Gilbert's
1152
00:37:07,294 --> 00:37:08,325
disappearance sparked
1153
00:37:08,326 --> 00:37:09,691
the search that uncovered
1154
00:37:09,692 --> 00:37:10,859
the bodies.
1155
00:37:10,892 --> 00:37:11,991
She was still missing,
1156
00:37:11,992 --> 00:37:12,925
and her boyfriend
1157
00:37:12,926 --> 00:37:14,625
in Jersey city was convinced
1158
00:37:14,626 --> 00:37:15,526
the police had been
1159
00:37:15,527 --> 00:37:18,625
monitoring his phone.
1160
00:37:18,626 --> 00:37:19,493
Me being her boyfriend,
1161
00:37:19,494 --> 00:37:20,493
I lived with her.
1162
00:37:20,494 --> 00:37:22,360
I would say, from the day
1163
00:37:22,361 --> 00:37:23,393
she went missing, I would say
1164
00:37:23,394 --> 00:37:25,360
I was probably, yeah,
1165
00:37:25,361 --> 00:37:26,726
phone tapped.
1166
00:37:26,727 --> 00:37:28,293
Anybody involved, if they knew
1167
00:37:28,294 --> 00:37:29,261
her very well, they were
1168
00:37:29,262 --> 00:37:30,661
probably part of the...
1169
00:37:30,694 --> 00:37:32,660
Part of the whole circle being
1170
00:37:32,661 --> 00:37:35,061
tapped and stuff like that.
1171
00:37:36,362 --> 00:37:37,061
Soon after
1172
00:37:37,062 --> 00:37:38,327
the bodies were discovered,
1173
00:37:38,328 --> 00:37:39,694
police returned to oak beach
1174
00:37:39,695 --> 00:37:41,827
to re-interview Joseph brewer,
1175
00:37:41,828 --> 00:37:42,795
one of the last people
1176
00:37:42,796 --> 00:37:43,894
to see Shannan alive.
1177
00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:47,295
Mr. Brewer voluntarily
1178
00:37:47,296 --> 00:37:48,694
consented to being interviewed
1179
00:37:48,695 --> 00:37:50,161
by us.
1180
00:37:50,162 --> 00:37:51,362
He's been most cooperative,
1181
00:37:51,363 --> 00:37:53,262
and we appreciate his help
1182
00:37:53,263 --> 00:37:54,062
in this matter.
1183
00:37:54,062 --> 00:37:54,962
What about the spotlight
1184
00:37:54,962 --> 00:37:55,829
that you've been cast in
1185
00:37:55,830 --> 00:37:56,829
for the media and...
1186
00:37:56,829 --> 00:37:57,663
I'm not the victim.
1187
00:37:57,663 --> 00:37:58,596
I don't... you know, I feel bad
1188
00:37:58,596 --> 00:37:59,429
for them.
1189
00:37:59,430 --> 00:38:00,429
You know, they're without their
1190
00:38:00,429 --> 00:38:01,330
children on Christmas, and I
1191
00:38:01,330 --> 00:38:02,129
hope the best for them.
1192
00:38:02,129 --> 00:38:03,063
What about your reputation?
1193
00:38:03,064 --> 00:38:04,063
You know, I'll have to live
1194
00:38:04,064 --> 00:38:05,463
with that.
1195
00:38:05,464 --> 00:38:06,264
Brewer was not
1196
00:38:06,265 --> 00:38:08,496
a suspect.
1197
00:38:08,497 --> 00:38:09,663
Detectives had also questioned
1198
00:38:09,664 --> 00:38:12,163
Michael pak, Shannan's driver.
1199
00:38:12,164 --> 00:38:14,029
I took a polygraph.
1200
00:38:14,030 --> 00:38:16,563
I passed with flying colors.
1201
00:38:16,564 --> 00:38:17,531
He grilled me.
1202
00:38:17,532 --> 00:38:18,541
He was saying things like,
1203
00:38:18,565 --> 00:38:20,330
you know, "oh, you know,
1204
00:38:20,331 --> 00:38:21,265
I know it could have been
1205
00:38:21,266 --> 00:38:22,265
an accident, you know?
1206
00:38:22,265 --> 00:38:23,064
It's okay, you know,
1207
00:38:23,065 --> 00:38:24,129
if something happened.
1208
00:38:24,130 --> 00:38:25,530
And then "...You know," and then
1209
00:38:25,531 --> 00:38:26,498
something happened by accident."
1210
00:38:26,531 --> 00:38:27,365
I was like, "yeah,
1211
00:38:27,365 --> 00:38:28,266
but it didn't happen.
1212
00:38:28,266 --> 00:38:29,031
You know, the last time
1213
00:38:29,031 --> 00:38:29,831
I saw her, she was alive,
1214
00:38:29,832 --> 00:38:31,830
and, you know, she was running."
1215
00:38:31,831 --> 00:38:33,265
Police said pak
1216
00:38:33,266 --> 00:38:35,398
was also not a suspect,
1217
00:38:35,399 --> 00:38:36,465
which left Shannan Gilbert's
1218
00:38:36,466 --> 00:38:37,798
mother asking,
1219
00:38:37,799 --> 00:38:40,365
if it isn't them, who is it?
1220
00:38:40,366 --> 00:38:42,165
She felt sure that oak beach,
1221
00:38:42,166 --> 00:38:43,532
where her daughter vanished,
1222
00:38:43,533 --> 00:38:47,399
held the answer.
1223
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:48,998
I'm very interested with
1224
00:38:48,999 --> 00:38:51,099
people in the community.
1225
00:38:51,100 --> 00:38:52,099
There is where my daughter
1226
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:54,300
disappeared.
1227
00:38:54,301 --> 00:38:57,500
I've paid for a couple of sites
1228
00:38:57,501 --> 00:38:59,433
that you can acquire information
1229
00:38:59,434 --> 00:39:00,733
on people.
1230
00:39:00,734 --> 00:39:01,800
I mean, it's amazing
1231
00:39:01,801 --> 00:39:03,933
what 10 bucks will buy you.
1232
00:39:03,934 --> 00:39:04,734
Nothing is sacred,
1233
00:39:04,735 --> 00:39:06,000
no one is private.
1234
00:39:06,001 --> 00:39:09,568
It's out there.
1235
00:39:09,601 --> 00:39:10,569
I took one computer course
1236
00:39:10,570 --> 00:39:12,767
in college, but it really just
1237
00:39:12,768 --> 00:39:14,568
taught you the basics.
1238
00:39:14,569 --> 00:39:17,968
But it's like, the more you
1239
00:39:17,969 --> 00:39:20,568
find, the more you know
1240
00:39:20,569 --> 00:39:22,968
that's out there to find,
1241
00:39:22,969 --> 00:39:24,168
so it's kind of like
1242
00:39:24,169 --> 00:39:26,270
an addiction.
1243
00:39:28,270 --> 00:39:29,135
The other families
1244
00:39:29,136 --> 00:39:31,269
were chasing their own leads,
1245
00:39:31,270 --> 00:39:32,269
investigating anything
1246
00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:33,469
that might shed light
1247
00:39:33,470 --> 00:39:34,635
on the night each woman
1248
00:39:34,636 --> 00:39:37,869
met her killer.
1249
00:39:37,870 --> 00:39:38,869
I logged back into
1250
00:39:38,870 --> 00:39:40,069
craigslist.
1251
00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:42,069
When somebody logs in to answer
1252
00:39:42,070 --> 00:39:43,470
an ad, they have an I.P.S.
1253
00:39:43,471 --> 00:39:44,870
Address that craigslist
1254
00:39:44,871 --> 00:39:47,470
actually keeps.
1255
00:39:47,471 --> 00:39:49,070
I started punching in
1256
00:39:49,071 --> 00:39:51,272
"Gilgo beach," "oak beach,"
1257
00:39:51,305 --> 00:39:52,272
just to see what kind of people
1258
00:39:52,273 --> 00:39:53,870
were out there, because I want
1259
00:39:53,871 --> 00:39:56,537
to know, who did she go to meet
1260
00:39:56,538 --> 00:39:58,337
at 1:30 in the morning
1261
00:39:58,338 --> 00:39:59,138
the morning that
1262
00:39:59,139 --> 00:40:01,204
she disappeared?
1263
00:40:01,205 --> 00:40:01,273
She disappeared?
Me and Megan both
1264
00:40:01,274 --> 00:40:03,971
me and Megan both
1265
00:40:03,972 --> 00:40:05,572
are afraid of the dark.
1266
00:40:05,573 --> 00:40:07,772
Megan would not walk across
1267
00:40:07,773 --> 00:40:09,572
a street by herself
1268
00:40:09,573 --> 00:40:13,505
if it was dark out.
1269
00:40:13,506 --> 00:40:14,872
So for her not to take her
1270
00:40:14,873 --> 00:40:17,105
cell phone or her pocketbook,
1271
00:40:17,106 --> 00:40:18,105
she had to have known this
1272
00:40:18,106 --> 00:40:22,506
person that picked her up.
1273
00:40:22,507 --> 00:40:23,706
Immediately after, I was
1274
00:40:23,707 --> 00:40:25,306
super detective, you know?
1275
00:40:25,307 --> 00:40:26,706
I was going back through
1276
00:40:26,707 --> 00:40:27,507
my books, my records,
1277
00:40:27,508 --> 00:40:29,173
my phone logs.
1278
00:40:29,174 --> 00:40:31,440
Anybody that would stand out
1279
00:40:31,441 --> 00:40:32,375
to me that I thought that
1280
00:40:32,376 --> 00:40:33,774
maybe I did see him.
1281
00:40:33,775 --> 00:40:36,774
Maybe I seen him.
1282
00:40:36,775 --> 00:40:37,708
Then it got to the point where
1283
00:40:37,709 --> 00:40:38,708
I'm just, like, so intrigued.
1284
00:40:38,709 --> 00:40:40,407
I want to know, why did he
1285
00:40:40,408 --> 00:40:42,807
choose Amber over someone else?
1286
00:40:42,808 --> 00:40:45,608
And how did he do it?
1287
00:40:45,609 --> 00:40:46,808
Like, you know, what did he
1288
00:40:46,809 --> 00:40:51,008
lure her with exactly?
1289
00:40:51,009 --> 00:40:52,208
That killer has
1290
00:40:52,209 --> 00:40:53,608
taken one very surprising
1291
00:40:53,609 --> 00:40:55,608
and public risk.
1292
00:40:55,609 --> 00:40:56,975
From the heart of Manhattan,
1293
00:40:56,976 --> 00:40:58,741
he made contact with a victim's
1294
00:40:58,742 --> 00:41:00,777
family.
1295
00:41:10,444 --> 00:41:13,377
In December 2010,
1296
00:41:13,378 --> 00:41:14,777
as the hunt for the long island
1297
00:41:14,778 --> 00:41:16,343
killer continued,
1298
00:41:16,344 --> 00:41:18,510
one incident became a focus.
1299
00:41:18,511 --> 00:41:19,478
It happened just after
1300
00:41:19,479 --> 00:41:20,743
one of his victims went
1301
00:41:20,744 --> 00:41:22,177
missing.
1302
00:41:22,178 --> 00:41:23,910
Three women had disappeared in
1303
00:41:23,911 --> 00:41:25,943
long island in 2010.
1304
00:41:25,944 --> 00:41:26,977
There was still no trace
1305
00:41:26,978 --> 00:41:28,478
of Shannan Gilbert.
1306
00:41:28,479 --> 00:41:29,744
Megan waterman was confirmed
1307
00:41:29,745 --> 00:41:30,878
among the dead,
1308
00:41:30,879 --> 00:41:33,478
and so was Amber Costello.
1309
00:41:33,479 --> 00:41:34,346
The third victim,
1310
00:41:34,347 --> 00:41:35,711
discovered beside them,
1311
00:41:35,712 --> 00:41:38,045
was Melissa Barthelemy.
1312
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:39,144
She had vanished one year
1313
00:41:39,145 --> 00:41:41,312
earlier, in 2009,
1314
00:41:41,313 --> 00:41:42,512
and something about her
1315
00:41:42,513 --> 00:41:43,579
made the killer take
1316
00:41:43,580 --> 00:41:45,613
an extraordinary risk.
1317
00:41:56,146 --> 00:41:57,546
A few days went by,
1318
00:41:57,547 --> 00:41:59,780
and there were no phone calls
1319
00:41:59,781 --> 00:42:02,447
from her, and it just wasn't
1320
00:42:02,448 --> 00:42:07,315
like her.
1321
00:42:07,348 --> 00:42:09,113
Her boyfriend called me
1322
00:42:09,114 --> 00:42:10,514
and said, "I haven't heard
1323
00:42:10,515 --> 00:42:11,514
from Melissa.
1324
00:42:11,515 --> 00:42:12,514
Have you heard from her?"
1325
00:42:12,515 --> 00:42:13,482
And I said, "no, I've been
1326
00:42:13,483 --> 00:42:16,881
trying to contact her."
1327
00:42:16,882 --> 00:42:17,881
I actually started
1328
00:42:17,882 --> 00:42:19,882
calling hospitals, jails.
1329
00:42:19,915 --> 00:42:21,682
I got ahold of an attorney
1330
00:42:21,683 --> 00:42:23,282
in New York City, and he even
1331
00:42:23,283 --> 00:42:24,848
did a little investigation,
1332
00:42:24,849 --> 00:42:26,448
and nobody knew where Melissa
1333
00:42:26,449 --> 00:42:27,649
Barthelemy was.
1334
00:42:27,683 --> 00:42:29,949
It was like she vanished.
1335
00:42:34,949 --> 00:42:36,749
She was so feisty,
1336
00:42:36,750 --> 00:42:38,516
and she used to do crazy things
1337
00:42:38,517 --> 00:42:41,116
even when she was real small.
1338
00:42:41,117 --> 00:42:44,116
She had a pet rabbit.
1339
00:42:44,117 --> 00:42:45,284
If we had the camera out,
1340
00:42:45,285 --> 00:42:46,484
she would climb inside the cage
1341
00:42:46,485 --> 00:42:47,484
so you could take a picture
1342
00:42:47,485 --> 00:42:49,049
of her in the cage.
1343
00:42:52,051 --> 00:42:56,984
She was quite silly.
1344
00:42:56,985 --> 00:42:58,784
After Melissa graduated from
1345
00:42:58,785 --> 00:43:00,785
high school, she went to
1346
00:43:00,786 --> 00:43:02,685
beauty school, and, boy,
1347
00:43:02,686 --> 00:43:04,184
every day, you never knew
1348
00:43:04,185 --> 00:43:04,952
what color her hair
1349
00:43:04,953 --> 00:43:06,085
was gonna be.
1350
00:43:06,086 --> 00:43:07,485
Some days it was platinum
1351
00:43:07,486 --> 00:43:08,420
blonde.
1352
00:43:08,420 --> 00:43:09,287
The next day, it would be
1353
00:43:09,288 --> 00:43:12,085
bright red.
1354
00:43:12,086 --> 00:43:12,886
Melissa had
1355
00:43:12,887 --> 00:43:13,886
a younger sister she was
1356
00:43:13,887 --> 00:43:15,652
very close to.
1357
00:43:15,653 --> 00:43:16,553
For this interview, Amanda
1358
00:43:16,554 --> 00:43:20,320
asked us to hide her identity.
1359
00:43:20,321 --> 00:43:21,320
She was very protective
1360
00:43:21,321 --> 00:43:23,320
of me, so anything I did,
1361
00:43:23,321 --> 00:43:24,320
she's like, "no,
1362
00:43:24,321 --> 00:43:25,187
you can't go there."
1363
00:43:25,187 --> 00:43:26,120
Or, "no, you're not leaving
1364
00:43:26,121 --> 00:43:28,287
by yourself."
1365
00:43:28,288 --> 00:43:30,119
She's just all of a sudden,
1366
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,021
"oh, I'm gonna move to
1367
00:43:31,021 --> 00:43:31,821
New York."
1368
00:43:31,822 --> 00:43:33,020
And I'm like,
1369
00:43:33,021 --> 00:43:34,288
"don't leave me here."
1370
00:43:43,289 --> 00:43:44,588
She wanted to go to New York
1371
00:43:44,589 --> 00:43:46,988
to earn enough money, come home,
1372
00:43:46,989 --> 00:43:49,588
open a salon, and buy herself
1373
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:51,555
a home.
1374
00:43:51,556 --> 00:43:53,555
I didn't like it.
1375
00:43:53,556 --> 00:43:54,955
I just don't think she should go
1376
00:43:54,956 --> 00:43:56,555
to a big city like that alone.
1377
00:43:56,556 --> 00:43:59,489
They're gonna eat her up there.
1378
00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:00,889
I just... I had a...
1379
00:44:00,890 --> 00:44:04,889
Not a bad feeling, but I...
1380
00:44:04,890 --> 00:44:07,989
I was terrified.
1381
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:08,657
My little girl,
1382
00:44:08,658 --> 00:44:10,423
but she was a grown woman
1383
00:44:10,424 --> 00:44:11,423
at that point, and I had
1384
00:44:11,424 --> 00:44:14,291
to let her go.
1385
00:44:14,292 --> 00:44:15,291
Melissa settled
1386
00:44:15,292 --> 00:44:16,124
in the Bronx, where rent
1387
00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:17,324
was cheap, and got a job
1388
00:44:17,325 --> 00:44:18,923
at a hairdresser.
1389
00:44:18,924 --> 00:44:20,123
Her sister, Amanda, would come
1390
00:44:20,124 --> 00:44:22,591
down to visit her, and at first,
1391
00:44:22,592 --> 00:44:24,657
she seemed out of danger.
1392
00:44:24,658 --> 00:44:26,391
We went for pedicures,
1393
00:44:26,392 --> 00:44:27,591
and she'd take me school clothes
1394
00:44:27,592 --> 00:44:30,392
shopping and go to the movies.
1395
00:44:30,393 --> 00:44:33,392
Just sister bonding stuff.
1396
00:44:33,393 --> 00:44:34,392
Then 12 months
1397
00:44:34,393 --> 00:44:35,925
after she arrived in the city,
1398
00:44:35,926 --> 00:44:37,392
the news coming home began
1399
00:44:37,393 --> 00:44:39,759
to change.
1400
00:44:44,627 --> 00:44:45,992
She stopped working at
1401
00:44:45,993 --> 00:44:47,192
the hair salon, and she told me
1402
00:44:47,193 --> 00:44:48,393
that she was working in
1403
00:44:48,394 --> 00:44:50,693
a topless nightclub.
1404
00:44:50,694 --> 00:44:52,693
She's like, "mom, don't worry.
1405
00:44:52,694 --> 00:44:55,494
You know, this is a new era.
1406
00:44:55,495 --> 00:44:56,893
People do this all the time to
1407
00:44:56,894 --> 00:44:58,294
put their self through school.
1408
00:44:58,295 --> 00:45:00,694
It's good money."
1409
00:45:00,695 --> 00:45:02,159
So...
1410
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:04,295
And again, what was I to do?
1411
00:45:06,161 --> 00:45:07,560
The last time she was here,
1412
00:45:07,561 --> 00:45:10,595
it was around Christmas,
1413
00:45:10,596 --> 00:45:12,395
and something was wrong
1414
00:45:12,396 --> 00:45:13,395
with her.
1415
00:45:13,396 --> 00:45:14,395
I don't know what it was.
1416
00:45:14,396 --> 00:45:15,561
She kept cuddling with me
1417
00:45:15,562 --> 00:45:16,895
and talking to me.
1418
00:45:16,896 --> 00:45:17,895
And I was trying to get out
1419
00:45:17,896 --> 00:45:18,895
of her, "Melissa, what's
1420
00:45:18,896 --> 00:45:19,796
the matter?"
1421
00:45:19,797 --> 00:45:20,995
And she was like, "nothing.
1422
00:45:20,996 --> 00:45:22,195
I'm just getting a little sick
1423
00:45:22,196 --> 00:45:23,761
of New York, but I have to make
1424
00:45:23,762 --> 00:45:26,161
some more money, and maybe in
1425
00:45:26,162 --> 00:45:27,161
another year or two,
1426
00:45:27,162 --> 00:45:29,763
I'll come back."
1427
00:45:32,730 --> 00:45:33,896
The summer after
1428
00:45:33,897 --> 00:45:35,629
that last visit home,
1429
00:45:35,630 --> 00:45:36,498
Melissa disappeared
1430
00:45:36,499 --> 00:45:37,962
from the Bronx.
1431
00:45:37,963 --> 00:45:39,763
On July 9, 2009,
1432
00:45:39,764 --> 00:45:40,698
she left her apartment
1433
00:45:40,699 --> 00:45:41,997
on Underhill Avenue,
1434
00:45:41,998 --> 00:45:43,663
deposited $900 in her
1435
00:45:43,664 --> 00:45:45,297
bank account, and told
1436
00:45:45,298 --> 00:45:46,397
her boyfriend she might
1437
00:45:46,398 --> 00:45:48,663
head out to long island.
1438
00:45:48,664 --> 00:45:50,831
Then she vanished.
1439
00:45:59,699 --> 00:46:01,131
We knew that Melissa had been
1440
00:46:01,132 --> 00:46:02,198
in telephone contact with her
1441
00:46:02,199 --> 00:46:04,600
sister, Amanda.
1442
00:46:04,633 --> 00:46:05,798
And little bits and pieces
1443
00:46:05,799 --> 00:46:07,998
began to emerge that the family
1444
00:46:07,999 --> 00:46:09,399
didn't know about and didn't
1445
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,133
make very much sense.
1446
00:46:12,166 --> 00:46:14,599
The police said,
1447
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,899
"talk to the sister."
1448
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:19,099
Well, Lynn questioned Amanda,
1449
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:20,199
and Amanda broke down crying,
1450
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,400
and she said, "mom, Melissa
1451
00:46:22,401 --> 00:46:24,800
confided in me some things that
1452
00:46:24,801 --> 00:46:26,600
I'm not supposed to tell you."
1453
00:46:26,601 --> 00:46:30,000
And Amanda, all of a sudden,
1454
00:46:30,001 --> 00:46:32,567
presented a fact pattern that
1455
00:46:32,568 --> 00:46:34,935
was positively frightening.
1456
00:46:39,002 --> 00:46:39,735
Melissa told
1457
00:46:39,736 --> 00:46:40,801
her parents she'd started
1458
00:46:40,802 --> 00:46:42,834
working in a topless bar.
1459
00:46:42,835 --> 00:46:43,768
She told her sister
1460
00:46:43,769 --> 00:46:45,568
a little more.
1461
00:46:45,569 --> 00:46:47,535
The truth was, like Megan
1462
00:46:47,536 --> 00:46:48,768
in Portland, Maine,
1463
00:46:48,769 --> 00:46:52,368
Melissa was being recruited.
1464
00:46:52,369 --> 00:46:53,568
I didn't fully understand
1465
00:46:53,569 --> 00:46:54,768
then.
1466
00:46:54,769 --> 00:46:56,536
I think she was just struggling
1467
00:46:56,537 --> 00:46:57,437
on money, and she was kind of
1468
00:46:57,438 --> 00:46:59,470
pushed to do it.
1469
00:47:02,937 --> 00:47:04,336
So she met this really great
1470
00:47:04,337 --> 00:47:06,337
guy, who told her that,
1471
00:47:06,338 --> 00:47:07,305
"if you want to make some
1472
00:47:07,306 --> 00:47:09,669
additional money, you can
1473
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:11,437
attend a party."
1474
00:47:11,438 --> 00:47:13,304
She wasn't, like, clear about
1475
00:47:13,305 --> 00:47:14,970
everything she would tell me.
1476
00:47:14,971 --> 00:47:15,905
Sometimes she'd say
1477
00:47:15,906 --> 00:47:17,070
she was struggling.
1478
00:47:17,071 --> 00:47:18,870
Now she's told by the same
1479
00:47:18,871 --> 00:47:20,305
guy, "look, you can make
1480
00:47:20,306 --> 00:47:21,870
more money if you become
1481
00:47:21,871 --> 00:47:22,805
a little more active at
1482
00:47:22,806 --> 00:47:24,305
these parties.
1483
00:47:24,306 --> 00:47:25,837
And you don't have to do
1484
00:47:25,838 --> 00:47:26,806
anything with anyone
1485
00:47:26,807 --> 00:47:30,638
you don't want to do."
1486
00:47:30,639 --> 00:47:33,038
I kind of overheard things.
1487
00:47:33,039 --> 00:47:34,439
People posting stuff on
1488
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:36,138
craigslist and seeing other
1489
00:47:36,139 --> 00:47:37,938
people's posts; Kind of put
1490
00:47:37,939 --> 00:47:40,873
the pieces together.
1491
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,939
Melissa was actually working
1492
00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:48,572
with this guy who was setting up
1493
00:47:48,573 --> 00:47:50,772
dates for her and working off
1494
00:47:50,773 --> 00:47:52,507
craigslist.
1495
00:47:52,508 --> 00:47:54,307
She told us he was her
1496
00:47:54,308 --> 00:47:57,073
boyfriend, but he was her pimp.
1497
00:47:57,074 --> 00:47:58,473
He actually put her
1498
00:47:58,474 --> 00:48:00,308
in the hospital three times.
1499
00:48:00,309 --> 00:48:01,540
She had head trauma.
1500
00:48:01,541 --> 00:48:04,341
He collapsed her lungs.
1501
00:48:04,342 --> 00:48:05,940
But we knew none of this,
1502
00:48:05,941 --> 00:48:08,108
and she hid it all from us.
1503
00:48:10,442 --> 00:48:11,309
Her family was
1504
00:48:11,310 --> 00:48:12,808
more fearful than ever
1505
00:48:12,809 --> 00:48:13,874
and turned to the police
1506
00:48:13,875 --> 00:48:16,310
to report Melissa missing.
1507
00:48:19,676 --> 00:48:21,542
I called the 43rd precinct,
1508
00:48:21,543 --> 00:48:22,542
and I was telling her,
1509
00:48:22,543 --> 00:48:23,542
"our daughter hasn't answered
1510
00:48:23,543 --> 00:48:25,542
her phone in three days,
1511
00:48:25,543 --> 00:48:27,042
and we speak to her daily."
1512
00:48:27,043 --> 00:48:29,042
And we just knew that something
1513
00:48:29,043 --> 00:48:30,310
was wrong.
1514
00:48:30,311 --> 00:48:32,042
She hung up on me.
1515
00:48:32,043 --> 00:48:33,643
We couldn't even get past
1516
00:48:33,644 --> 00:48:35,310
the desk sergeant.
1517
00:48:35,311 --> 00:48:37,443
The lady that answered the phone
1518
00:48:37,444 --> 00:48:39,443
three days in a row wouldn't
1519
00:48:39,444 --> 00:48:42,511
even take my daughter's name.
1520
00:48:42,512 --> 00:48:43,511
The family asked
1521
00:48:43,512 --> 00:48:45,043
to a local lawyer in buffalo
1522
00:48:45,044 --> 00:48:46,311
for help.
1523
00:48:46,312 --> 00:48:47,844
It seemed simple enough,
1524
00:48:47,845 --> 00:48:49,444
so I got on the phone to compel
1525
00:48:49,445 --> 00:48:51,411
the NYPD to take a missing
1526
00:48:51,412 --> 00:48:54,211
persons report.
1527
00:48:54,212 --> 00:48:56,378
They told me that they don't
1528
00:48:56,379 --> 00:48:57,777
take missing persons reports
1529
00:48:57,778 --> 00:48:59,578
for prostitutes unless they've
1530
00:48:59,579 --> 00:49:02,845
been missing for ten days.
1531
00:49:02,846 --> 00:49:04,412
Seven days after
1532
00:49:04,413 --> 00:49:05,645
Melissa's disappearance,
1533
00:49:05,646 --> 00:49:06,645
when the police were still
1534
00:49:06,646 --> 00:49:07,845
refusing to take a missing
1535
00:49:07,846 --> 00:49:09,645
person report, something
1536
00:49:09,646 --> 00:49:11,379
happened to suggest Melissa
1537
00:49:11,380 --> 00:49:12,978
was in the hands of the killer
1538
00:49:12,979 --> 00:49:16,646
and possibly still alive.
1539
00:49:16,647 --> 00:49:17,614
We were hoping someday
1540
00:49:17,615 --> 00:49:20,013
she'd call us.
1541
00:49:20,014 --> 00:49:22,613
And then her little sister got
1542
00:49:22,614 --> 00:49:27,013
a phone call.
1543
00:49:27,014 --> 00:49:28,980
I was with my cousin,
1544
00:49:28,981 --> 00:49:30,114
and we were at her house
1545
00:49:30,115 --> 00:49:31,480
just watching TV, and all of
1546
00:49:31,481 --> 00:49:34,315
a sudden, my phone rings.
1547
00:49:34,316 --> 00:49:35,315
I look at it, and it says
1548
00:49:35,316 --> 00:49:36,880
"Melissa," so I was like,
1549
00:49:36,881 --> 00:49:40,315
"thank god."
1550
00:49:40,316 --> 00:49:41,315
Amanda's like, "wow,
1551
00:49:41,316 --> 00:49:42,681
oh, my god, it's Melissa."
1552
00:49:42,682 --> 00:49:43,881
And she answers the phone,
1553
00:49:43,882 --> 00:49:45,081
and there's a guy on the other
1554
00:49:45,082 --> 00:49:47,881
end, and she's like,
1555
00:49:47,882 --> 00:49:49,081
"where is my sister?
1556
00:49:49,082 --> 00:49:52,948
Who is this?"
1557
00:49:52,949 --> 00:49:55,549
He was just very calm.
1558
00:49:55,550 --> 00:49:57,316
He was in control.
1559
00:49:57,317 --> 00:49:58,682
There was nothing I could do
1560
00:49:58,683 --> 00:50:01,016
about it.
1561
00:50:01,017 --> 00:50:02,816
Amanda said that he sounded
1562
00:50:02,817 --> 00:50:04,417
like he was white, and he
1563
00:50:04,418 --> 00:50:06,417
sounded like he was middle-aged.
1564
00:50:06,418 --> 00:50:07,817
She would ask him a question.
1565
00:50:07,818 --> 00:50:10,683
He would answer back.
1566
00:50:10,684 --> 00:50:12,483
He knew what he was doing.
1567
00:50:12,484 --> 00:50:14,851
He did it the way he wanted to.
1568
00:50:20,151 --> 00:50:20,952
It wasn't until
1569
00:50:20,953 --> 00:50:22,384
the third call that police
1570
00:50:22,385 --> 00:50:24,784
were tracing the signal.
1571
00:50:24,785 --> 00:50:27,651
It was coming from Manhattan.
1572
00:50:27,652 --> 00:50:28,851
He was speaking to Amanda
1573
00:50:28,852 --> 00:50:30,118
from one of the most crowded
1574
00:50:30,119 --> 00:50:31,685
places in the country,
1575
00:50:31,686 --> 00:50:32,520
where the streets were
1576
00:50:32,521 --> 00:50:33,652
overlooked by hundreds of
1577
00:50:33,653 --> 00:50:37,218
surveillance cameras.
1578
00:50:37,219 --> 00:50:38,120
It was very difficult
1579
00:50:38,121 --> 00:50:40,519
to track the phone.
1580
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,119
If you're in a crowded area
1581
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:43,919
and you're in Manhattan,
1582
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,252
everybody knows that
1583
00:50:45,253 --> 00:50:47,720
there are cameras everywhere.
1584
00:50:47,721 --> 00:50:48,920
Everybody's got a cell phone
1585
00:50:48,921 --> 00:50:51,054
stuck to their ear.
1586
00:50:51,087 --> 00:50:54,054
So which cell phone is it?
1587
00:50:54,087 --> 00:50:55,086
Each call lasted
1588
00:50:55,087 --> 00:50:56,253
less than three minutes,
1589
00:50:56,254 --> 00:50:57,221
and even when the police
1590
00:50:57,222 --> 00:50:58,554
managed to pinpoint his exact
1591
00:50:58,555 --> 00:51:00,321
location, the surveillance
1592
00:51:00,322 --> 00:51:01,987
footage showed only hundreds
1593
00:51:01,988 --> 00:51:03,687
of people, many with a phone
1594
00:51:03,688 --> 00:51:05,722
to their ear.
1595
00:51:09,088 --> 00:51:09,988
He would talk about
1596
00:51:09,989 --> 00:51:11,388
the things that he's done
1597
00:51:11,389 --> 00:51:13,522
to Melissa.
1598
00:51:13,523 --> 00:51:16,322
He was describing acts
1599
00:51:16,323 --> 00:51:19,324
more of violence than of sex.
1600
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:23,589
Every time he called,
1601
00:51:23,590 --> 00:51:24,988
it sort of got a little more
1602
00:51:24,989 --> 00:51:27,789
detailed, like he was playing
1603
00:51:27,790 --> 00:51:30,556
a game with her.
1604
00:51:30,557 --> 00:51:31,390
The calls went on
1605
00:51:31,391 --> 00:51:32,956
for a month and a half.
1606
00:51:32,957 --> 00:51:36,756
There were seven in all.
1607
00:51:36,757 --> 00:51:38,757
We believe that these calls
1608
00:51:38,758 --> 00:51:40,557
were made by the killer.
1609
00:51:40,558 --> 00:51:42,757
It sounds like he was aware
1610
00:51:42,758 --> 00:51:46,358
of what happened to the victim,
1611
00:51:46,359 --> 00:51:48,358
so this young lady has had
1612
00:51:48,359 --> 00:51:50,358
contact over the phone
1613
00:51:50,359 --> 00:51:52,758
with the killer.
1614
00:51:52,759 --> 00:51:53,925
Every time my phone would
1615
00:51:53,926 --> 00:51:55,725
ring and I'd see her name,
1616
00:51:55,726 --> 00:51:56,659
my heart would stop,
1617
00:51:56,660 --> 00:51:58,158
and I'd have that sense
1618
00:51:58,159 --> 00:51:59,758
of possible relief.
1619
00:51:59,759 --> 00:52:01,658
"Maybe it's her this time."
1620
00:52:01,659 --> 00:52:05,392
But it wasn't.
1621
00:52:05,393 --> 00:52:07,392
She was devastated.
1622
00:52:07,393 --> 00:52:08,592
Every call, she was, like,
1623
00:52:08,593 --> 00:52:11,192
more panicky.
1624
00:52:11,193 --> 00:52:13,992
It's all about power,
1625
00:52:13,993 --> 00:52:17,226
about control.
1626
00:52:17,227 --> 00:52:18,027
This fits in with the
1627
00:52:18,028 --> 00:52:22,427
serial killer mentality.
1628
00:52:22,428 --> 00:52:24,360
The final call was, uh,
1629
00:52:24,361 --> 00:52:25,360
he actually said what
1630
00:52:25,361 --> 00:52:26,460
he did to her.
1631
00:52:26,461 --> 00:52:27,461
He actually told Amanda
1632
00:52:27,462 --> 00:52:28,960
that he killed her sister.
1633
00:52:28,961 --> 00:52:31,127
"You should have seen her face.
1634
00:52:31,128 --> 00:52:32,528
Gonna watch her body rot.
1635
00:52:32,529 --> 00:52:33,728
Then maybe I'll come tell you
1636
00:52:33,729 --> 00:52:38,528
personally."
1637
00:52:38,529 --> 00:52:39,728
In my mind, I feel that
1638
00:52:39,729 --> 00:52:41,128
he held her for at least
1639
00:52:41,129 --> 00:52:44,729
a month.
1640
00:52:44,730 --> 00:52:46,529
You know, I still don't sleep
1641
00:52:46,530 --> 00:52:47,729
at night.
1642
00:52:47,730 --> 00:52:49,529
I never, ever, ever turn off
1643
00:52:49,530 --> 00:52:50,962
my phone.
1644
00:52:50,963 --> 00:52:54,162
I paid Melissa's cell phone
1645
00:52:54,163 --> 00:52:56,563
for over a year, just hoping
1646
00:52:56,564 --> 00:52:57,762
that one more call would
1647
00:52:57,763 --> 00:53:02,229
come in.
1648
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:03,064
The killer who
1649
00:53:03,064 --> 00:53:03,931
made those calls is still
1650
00:53:03,932 --> 00:53:05,663
out there.
1651
00:53:05,664 --> 00:53:07,530
Who he is and why he's killing
1652
00:53:07,531 --> 00:53:15,432
remains a mystery.
1653
00:53:16,131 --> 00:53:19,964
Okay, I guess everybody
1654
00:53:19,965 --> 00:53:20,997
is set.
1655
00:53:20,998 --> 00:53:22,598
We're all ready.
1656
00:53:22,599 --> 00:53:26,565
And good morning, everybody.
1657
00:53:26,566 --> 00:53:28,064
This is obviously a major
1658
00:53:28,065 --> 00:53:29,798
investigation.
1659
00:53:29,799 --> 00:53:31,198
And we in the Suffolk county
1660
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,366
police department have
1661
00:53:33,367 --> 00:53:35,499
allocated major resources
1662
00:53:35,500 --> 00:53:37,132
to the case.
1663
00:53:37,133 --> 00:53:39,932
Now, I want to assure everybody
1664
00:53:39,933 --> 00:53:41,132
that we're on top of this
1665
00:53:41,133 --> 00:53:43,333
investigation.
1666
00:53:43,334 --> 00:53:44,333
In the first months
1667
00:53:44,334 --> 00:53:46,466
of 2011, Suffolk county police
1668
00:53:46,467 --> 00:53:49,567
had four bodies and no suspect.
1669
00:53:49,568 --> 00:53:51,166
Then, as now, the pressure
1670
00:53:51,167 --> 00:53:53,500
and speculation was mounting.
1671
00:53:53,501 --> 00:53:57,500
Who is this killer?
1672
00:53:57,501 --> 00:53:58,734
Criminal profilers agree
1673
00:53:58,735 --> 00:54:00,335
he knows the local area,
1674
00:54:00,336 --> 00:54:01,700
has a job, and is probably
1675
00:54:01,701 --> 00:54:05,668
married.
1676
00:54:05,669 --> 00:54:06,868
He's selecting victims who
1677
00:54:06,869 --> 00:54:09,468
look like the girl next door.
1678
00:54:09,469 --> 00:54:10,502
It's a neighbor.
1679
00:54:10,536 --> 00:54:11,701
It's a father, maybe.
1680
00:54:11,702 --> 00:54:13,501
You know, it's...
1681
00:54:13,502 --> 00:54:14,337
Who knows?
1682
00:54:14,338 --> 00:54:15,337
It could be the frickin'
1683
00:54:15,337 --> 00:54:16,069
mailman.
1684
00:54:16,069 --> 00:54:16,869
Who knows?
1685
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:19,136
You don't know.
1686
00:54:19,169 --> 00:54:19,936
The phone calls
1687
00:54:19,937 --> 00:54:21,536
from Manhattan give other clues.
1688
00:54:21,537 --> 00:54:22,936
He's brazen and cunning
1689
00:54:22,937 --> 00:54:23,770
and takes pleasure
1690
00:54:23,771 --> 00:54:25,136
in terrorizing a teenager
1691
00:54:25,137 --> 00:54:27,570
from a crowded street.
1692
00:54:27,603 --> 00:54:29,802
That blows my mind.
1693
00:54:29,803 --> 00:54:31,803
To torment and torture
1694
00:54:31,804 --> 00:54:33,603
a 15-year-old girl,
1695
00:54:33,604 --> 00:54:36,804
what kind of man are you?
1696
00:54:36,838 --> 00:54:37,804
He's also
1697
00:54:37,805 --> 00:54:39,003
meticulous enough to leave
1698
00:54:39,004 --> 00:54:40,870
police with next to nothing.
1699
00:54:40,871 --> 00:54:41,838
They don't have anything
1700
00:54:41,838 --> 00:54:42,671
to work with.
1701
00:54:42,672 --> 00:54:43,704
They don't have a murder scene.
1702
00:54:43,705 --> 00:54:44,704
They don't have a witness.
1703
00:54:44,705 --> 00:54:45,704
They don't have DNA.
1704
00:54:45,705 --> 00:54:46,704
They don't have a crime scene.
1705
00:54:46,705 --> 00:54:48,704
What they have is a bag of bones
1706
00:54:48,705 --> 00:54:50,739
and hope.
1707
00:54:53,139 --> 00:54:54,339
A prolific killer
1708
00:54:54,340 --> 00:54:55,605
who might seem perfectly
1709
00:54:55,605 --> 00:54:56,672
ordinary to his neighbors
1710
00:54:56,673 --> 00:54:58,672
and family is something suburban
1711
00:54:58,673 --> 00:55:01,705
long island has seen before.
1712
00:55:01,706 --> 00:55:03,339
When police noticed a pickup
1713
00:55:03,340 --> 00:55:04,672
truck with no license plates,
1714
00:55:04,673 --> 00:55:05,672
they gave chase.
1715
00:55:05,673 --> 00:55:06,672
When the truck stopped,
1716
00:55:06,673 --> 00:55:07,839
they became suspicious
1717
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:08,839
and found the partially
1718
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:10,640
decomposed body of a woman
1719
00:55:10,641 --> 00:55:11,839
in the back of Joel Rifkin's
1720
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:14,840
truck.
1721
00:55:14,841 --> 00:55:15,741
In the mid-'90s
1722
00:55:15,741 --> 00:55:16,707
two local men,
1723
00:55:16,708 --> 00:55:18,373
apparently coincidentally,
1724
00:55:18,374 --> 00:55:19,906
started killing women.
1725
00:55:19,907 --> 00:55:21,173
A postal worker named
1726
00:55:21,174 --> 00:55:22,341
Robert shulman killed
1727
00:55:22,342 --> 00:55:23,840
five prostitutes.
1728
00:55:23,841 --> 00:55:26,741
Joel Rifkin killed 17.
1729
00:55:26,742 --> 00:55:28,474
At the time, he was a landscape
1730
00:55:28,475 --> 00:55:29,807
gardener living at home
1731
00:55:29,808 --> 00:55:33,841
with his elderly mother.
1732
00:55:33,842 --> 00:55:37,342
Basically, his operation
1733
00:55:37,343 --> 00:55:38,675
consisted of picking up
1734
00:55:38,676 --> 00:55:40,975
the women, having sex with them,
1735
00:55:40,976 --> 00:55:42,174
killing them, and disposing
1736
00:55:42,175 --> 00:55:44,175
of them.
1737
00:55:44,176 --> 00:55:45,342
From his prison
1738
00:55:45,343 --> 00:55:46,942
cell, Rifkin gave police
1739
00:55:46,943 --> 00:55:48,443
hunting the new killer
1740
00:55:48,444 --> 00:55:50,343
the benefit of his advice:
1741
00:55:50,344 --> 00:55:51,509
He will be a local
1742
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:53,343
who works with burlap,
1743
00:55:53,344 --> 00:55:54,509
probably a fisherman,
1744
00:55:54,510 --> 00:55:57,210
a landscaper, or a contractor.
1745
00:56:01,411 --> 00:56:03,344
Dave Schaller, Amber's roommate
1746
00:56:03,345 --> 00:56:05,544
in Babylon, had seen for himself
1747
00:56:05,545 --> 00:56:06,777
the scale of the secret
1748
00:56:06,778 --> 00:56:08,209
online sex trade in these
1749
00:56:08,210 --> 00:56:10,510
quiet suburban streets.
1750
00:56:10,511 --> 00:56:11,378
This is the neighborhood,
1751
00:56:11,378 --> 00:56:12,211
you know?
1752
00:56:12,245 --> 00:56:13,111
There ain't nothing different
1753
00:56:13,112 --> 00:56:14,345
here than anywhere else,
1754
00:56:14,346 --> 00:56:15,611
you know?
1755
00:56:15,612 --> 00:56:17,478
It hides well, you know?
1756
00:56:17,479 --> 00:56:19,077
That's the best way to put it,
1757
00:56:19,078 --> 00:56:20,478
you know, to hide in plain
1758
00:56:20,479 --> 00:56:23,879
sight.
1759
00:56:23,912 --> 00:56:25,346
This is where it happens,
1760
00:56:25,347 --> 00:56:26,445
you know?
1761
00:56:26,446 --> 00:56:27,446
Everybody thinks it's in
1762
00:56:27,447 --> 00:56:28,413
the inner cities and stuff
1763
00:56:28,414 --> 00:56:29,612
like that, but in reality,
1764
00:56:29,613 --> 00:56:32,211
you know, there's probably more
1765
00:56:32,212 --> 00:56:34,211
going on... just as much going on
1766
00:56:34,212 --> 00:56:37,012
in suburbia than there is
1767
00:56:37,013 --> 00:56:38,346
anywhere else.
1768
00:56:38,347 --> 00:56:40,112
The executives and the people,
1769
00:56:40,113 --> 00:56:41,112
you know, who run these
1770
00:56:41,113 --> 00:56:42,480
companies or, you know,
1771
00:56:42,481 --> 00:56:44,347
the dockworker, the guy
1772
00:56:44,348 --> 00:56:45,480
who's a construction worker,
1773
00:56:45,481 --> 00:56:46,880
that's the clientele.
1774
00:56:46,881 --> 00:56:48,212
And you know what?
1775
00:56:48,213 --> 00:56:51,813
This is where they live.
1776
00:56:51,814 --> 00:56:53,213
There's a lot of no-good
1777
00:56:53,214 --> 00:56:54,813
going on behind closed doors,
1778
00:56:54,814 --> 00:56:56,481
especially in these areas.
1779
00:56:56,482 --> 00:56:57,947
You know, they're the most
1780
00:56:57,948 --> 00:57:00,348
overlooked thing, you know?
1781
00:57:00,349 --> 00:57:03,248
Everybody overlooks suburbia.
1782
00:57:06,215 --> 00:57:07,415
Most of my people were
1783
00:57:07,416 --> 00:57:08,881
business working men, you know?
1784
00:57:08,882 --> 00:57:11,782
Corporate America...
1785
00:57:11,783 --> 00:57:13,582
That are just freaks
1786
00:57:13,583 --> 00:57:17,582
and like to be freaks.
1787
00:57:17,583 --> 00:57:19,982
They can be what they fantasize
1788
00:57:19,983 --> 00:57:22,550
about on those calls.
1789
00:57:22,551 --> 00:57:24,949
I knew this was dangerous,
1790
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:26,516
you know?
1791
00:57:26,517 --> 00:57:27,916
There was one guy who was
1792
00:57:27,917 --> 00:57:29,116
stalking her.
1793
00:57:29,117 --> 00:57:30,850
He would call and tell her,
1794
00:57:30,851 --> 00:57:31,651
you know, "I'm looking
1795
00:57:31,651 --> 00:57:32,451
through the front window
1796
00:57:32,451 --> 00:57:33,352
of your house, you know,
1797
00:57:33,353 --> 00:57:34,716
and I see you standing there."
1798
00:57:34,717 --> 00:57:36,016
There was this other guy
1799
00:57:36,017 --> 00:57:39,551
who was a realtor guy.
1800
00:57:39,552 --> 00:57:40,485
He wouldn't hurt her, but he
1801
00:57:40,485 --> 00:57:41,352
would, like, put his foot
1802
00:57:41,352 --> 00:57:42,217
on her chest and, like,
1803
00:57:42,217 --> 00:57:43,152
flex his arms and.
1804
00:57:43,152 --> 00:57:44,018
You know, just, like,
1805
00:57:44,019 --> 00:57:45,217
very strange things to make
1806
00:57:45,218 --> 00:57:46,784
himself very... seem very
1807
00:57:46,785 --> 00:57:50,385
powerful, you know?
1808
00:57:50,386 --> 00:57:51,353
Police believe
1809
00:57:51,354 --> 00:57:52,785
this killer, like other serial
1810
00:57:52,786 --> 00:57:54,752
killers before him, is a regular
1811
00:57:54,753 --> 00:57:56,552
client who doesn't kill every
1812
00:57:56,553 --> 00:57:59,018
sex worker he sees.
1813
00:57:59,019 --> 00:58:00,618
After he murdered her sister,
1814
00:58:00,619 --> 00:58:02,353
Kim overstreet posted an ad
1815
00:58:02,354 --> 00:58:04,085
online to try and lure him
1816
00:58:04,086 --> 00:58:05,886
to a meeting.
1817
00:58:05,887 --> 00:58:06,886
Honest to god, I was on
1818
00:58:06,887 --> 00:58:08,786
a mission at that point.
1819
00:58:08,787 --> 00:58:10,386
I was going to know, okay?
1820
00:58:10,387 --> 00:58:11,386
That was it.
1821
00:58:11,387 --> 00:58:12,254
And when I seen them,
1822
00:58:12,255 --> 00:58:14,053
I would know.
1823
00:58:14,054 --> 00:58:15,454
I also thought, "well, maybe
1824
00:58:15,455 --> 00:58:17,053
he'll just try and do it to me."
1825
00:58:17,054 --> 00:58:20,186
And I was ready.
1826
00:58:20,187 --> 00:58:21,186
I know that it's gonna take
1827
00:58:21,187 --> 00:58:22,387
this guy slipping up and making
1828
00:58:22,388 --> 00:58:24,187
a mistake in order to be caught.
1829
00:58:24,188 --> 00:58:26,087
And he will.
1830
00:58:26,088 --> 00:58:27,087
Eventually, somebody
1831
00:58:27,088 --> 00:58:28,488
will get away.
1832
00:58:28,489 --> 00:58:29,688
If they prepare themself
1833
00:58:29,689 --> 00:58:30,622
mentally at this point,
1834
00:58:30,623 --> 00:58:31,655
from this point on,
1835
00:58:31,656 --> 00:58:33,355
read a couple books on it
1836
00:58:33,356 --> 00:58:34,521
so that you know what you're
1837
00:58:34,522 --> 00:58:35,456
coming across and you can
1838
00:58:35,457 --> 00:58:36,655
recognize the signs of it.
1839
00:58:36,656 --> 00:58:40,055
Okay, that's what I did.
1840
00:58:40,056 --> 00:58:41,522
And you've got to be able
1841
00:58:41,523 --> 00:58:43,088
to fight, because if you can't
1842
00:58:43,089 --> 00:58:43,956
fight, you're not gonna
1843
00:58:43,957 --> 00:58:46,457
get away.
1844
00:58:47,757 --> 00:58:48,590
This killer
1845
00:58:48,591 --> 00:58:49,590
is part of a growing trend
1846
00:58:49,591 --> 00:58:51,722
in Internet crime.
1847
00:58:51,723 --> 00:58:52,956
He is selecting his victims
1848
00:58:52,957 --> 00:58:54,756
online, using the cover
1849
00:58:54,757 --> 00:58:56,457
of a fast and anonymous
1850
00:58:56,458 --> 00:58:58,357
sex trade.
1851
00:58:58,358 --> 00:58:59,890
When a sex worker puts an ad
1852
00:58:59,891 --> 00:59:01,857
on craigslist, within minutes,
1853
00:59:01,858 --> 00:59:03,857
they get many, many hits.
1854
00:59:03,858 --> 00:59:06,891
It could run into the hundreds.
1855
00:59:06,924 --> 00:59:08,090
Normal, run-of-the-mill
1856
00:59:08,091 --> 00:59:10,358
murders, there's a relationship
1857
00:59:10,359 --> 00:59:11,890
between the killer
1858
00:59:11,891 --> 00:59:13,091
and the victim.
1859
00:59:13,124 --> 00:59:15,458
These are stranger-stranger
1860
00:59:15,459 --> 00:59:19,524
contacts.
1861
00:59:19,525 --> 00:59:20,724
He's not the first
1862
00:59:20,725 --> 00:59:22,492
killer to use craigslist to hunt
1863
00:59:22,493 --> 00:59:24,091
his victims.
1864
00:59:24,092 --> 00:59:26,359
In 2009, a medical student
1865
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:27,892
attacked three women he'd met
1866
00:59:27,893 --> 00:59:29,592
on the website, killing one
1867
00:59:29,593 --> 00:59:31,493
of them.
1868
00:59:31,526 --> 00:59:33,892
Because the Internet offers
1869
00:59:33,893 --> 00:59:36,092
anonymity, you know, in these
1870
00:59:36,093 --> 00:59:38,092
chat rooms, craigslist,
1871
00:59:38,093 --> 00:59:39,693
and the like, I think people
1872
00:59:39,694 --> 00:59:41,092
generally tend to feel safe
1873
00:59:41,093 --> 00:59:44,093
on them, until they agree
1874
00:59:44,094 --> 00:59:46,093
to actually come in contact
1875
00:59:46,094 --> 00:59:48,362
with one another.
1876
00:59:54,762 --> 00:59:55,761
The killer began
1877
00:59:55,762 --> 00:59:57,427
selecting his targets online
1878
00:59:57,428 --> 00:59:59,927
in 2007,
1879
00:59:59,928 --> 01:00:01,528
and the first woman he killed
1880
01:00:01,529 --> 01:00:02,463
had characteristics
1881
01:00:02,464 --> 01:00:04,496
that linked them all.
1882
01:00:18,564 --> 01:00:20,629
I've always looked for
1883
01:00:20,630 --> 01:00:23,029
my sister, 'cause I hold on
1884
01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:26,029
to hope that maybe one day
1885
01:00:26,030 --> 01:00:27,029
your sister will come walk
1886
01:00:27,030 --> 01:00:28,630
through the door and, you know,
1887
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:29,664
say, "hey, I'm okay."
1888
01:00:29,665 --> 01:00:31,698
You know, "hey, guys."
1889
01:00:33,865 --> 01:00:34,864
The killer's most
1890
01:00:34,865 --> 01:00:36,097
recent victims are believed to
1891
01:00:36,098 --> 01:00:37,530
be Amber and Megan, who
1892
01:00:37,531 --> 01:00:38,730
disappeared after Shannan
1893
01:00:38,731 --> 01:00:40,730
in 2010.
1894
01:00:40,731 --> 01:00:43,665
Melissa he killed in 2009.
1895
01:00:43,666 --> 01:00:45,264
But his first victim was back
1896
01:00:45,265 --> 01:00:47,631
in 2007, and her name
1897
01:00:47,632 --> 01:00:52,231
was Maureen brainard-Barnes.
1898
01:00:52,232 --> 01:00:53,831
Her story confirms a pattern
1899
01:00:53,832 --> 01:00:56,066
that links them all.
1900
01:01:01,132 --> 01:01:02,366
Maureen didn't really play
1901
01:01:02,367 --> 01:01:03,366
too much football.
1902
01:01:03,367 --> 01:01:04,699
She was more girly girl.
1903
01:01:04,700 --> 01:01:09,066
I was the more tomboy.
1904
01:01:09,067 --> 01:01:10,166
My brother was a football star
1905
01:01:10,167 --> 01:01:13,066
his whole life.
1906
01:01:13,067 --> 01:01:14,232
I always played with the boys,
1907
01:01:14,233 --> 01:01:15,232
and they couldn't catch me;
1908
01:01:15,233 --> 01:01:16,034
I was fast.
1909
01:01:18,434 --> 01:01:20,434
We used to stack up grocery
1910
01:01:20,435 --> 01:01:21,833
carts on top of each other,
1911
01:01:21,834 --> 01:01:22,833
and we'd sit there and just
1912
01:01:22,834 --> 01:01:23,833
look at the stars and tell
1913
01:01:23,834 --> 01:01:25,033
each other everything about
1914
01:01:25,034 --> 01:01:27,068
ourselves.
1915
01:01:31,002 --> 01:01:31,902
We were like best friends.
1916
01:01:31,903 --> 01:01:32,902
We were, you know,
1917
01:01:32,903 --> 01:01:34,001
lifetime best friends,
1918
01:01:34,002 --> 01:01:35,402
even though, you know,
1919
01:01:35,403 --> 01:01:40,001
we were brother and sisters.
1920
01:01:40,002 --> 01:01:40,970
The most highly
1921
01:01:40,971 --> 01:01:42,602
prized commodity in an online
1922
01:01:42,603 --> 01:01:43,602
sex industry worth
1923
01:01:43,603 --> 01:01:45,935
about $3 billion a year
1924
01:01:45,936 --> 01:01:47,835
is ordinary American girls
1925
01:01:47,836 --> 01:01:48,935
like Maureen,
1926
01:01:48,936 --> 01:01:52,770
the girl next door.
1927
01:01:52,771 --> 01:01:54,936
Maureen was beautiful,
1928
01:01:54,937 --> 01:01:56,503
but I don't think that she
1929
01:01:56,504 --> 01:01:58,236
really convinced herself
1930
01:01:58,237 --> 01:01:59,204
that she was.
1931
01:01:59,205 --> 01:02:02,270
Someone contacted her on
1932
01:02:02,271 --> 01:02:05,637
MySpace, and they said that
1933
01:02:05,638 --> 01:02:06,837
they wanted her to come down
1934
01:02:06,838 --> 01:02:07,837
and do modeling, and Maureen
1935
01:02:07,838 --> 01:02:09,037
was like, "oh, great.
1936
01:02:09,038 --> 01:02:11,237
This is awesome."
1937
01:02:11,238 --> 01:02:12,105
That offer
1938
01:02:12,106 --> 01:02:13,505
was from New York.
1939
01:02:13,506 --> 01:02:14,771
It seemed tempting and
1940
01:02:14,772 --> 01:02:16,538
apparently harmless,
1941
01:02:16,539 --> 01:02:18,372
but it put Maureen on the radar
1942
01:02:18,373 --> 01:02:19,872
of an online industry
1943
01:02:19,873 --> 01:02:22,838
hunting fresh new faces.
1944
01:02:22,839 --> 01:02:24,838
I think that she saw it as,
1945
01:02:24,839 --> 01:02:26,238
you know, "I could provide
1946
01:02:26,239 --> 01:02:28,038
and be this big person."
1947
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:30,238
And as soon as she got to
1948
01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:31,773
New York, it probably was
1949
01:02:31,774 --> 01:02:32,773
a different thing than what
1950
01:02:32,774 --> 01:02:35,374
she thought it was gonna be.
1951
01:02:38,607 --> 01:02:39,574
Kind of got some hints
1952
01:02:39,574 --> 01:02:40,508
that maybe she was doing
1953
01:02:40,509 --> 01:02:42,106
something else.
1954
01:02:42,107 --> 01:02:43,273
I did confront her a little bit
1955
01:02:43,274 --> 01:02:44,474
about it, and she was like,
1956
01:02:44,475 --> 01:02:46,239
"no, I'm just doing modeling."
1957
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:47,640
And, you know, it would upset
1958
01:02:47,641 --> 01:02:50,941
her, so I kind of backed away.
1959
01:02:53,141 --> 01:02:54,008
From the moment
1960
01:02:54,009 --> 01:02:55,874
Maureen posted her first online
1961
01:02:55,875 --> 01:02:57,375
ad, she was in the killer's
1962
01:02:57,376 --> 01:02:58,708
domain, and he made his
1963
01:02:58,709 --> 01:03:01,875
selection.
1964
01:03:01,876 --> 01:03:04,375
On the 6th of July, 2007,
1965
01:03:04,376 --> 01:03:05,875
she traveled from Connecticut
1966
01:03:05,876 --> 01:03:07,075
to New York and checked into
1967
01:03:07,076 --> 01:03:08,275
the super 8 hotel on
1968
01:03:08,276 --> 01:03:12,542
46th street near Times Square.
1969
01:03:12,543 --> 01:03:14,376
The online sex trade
1970
01:03:14,377 --> 01:03:16,977
delivered her to his door.
1971
01:03:20,511 --> 01:03:21,709
When she didn't come home
1972
01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:23,076
that Monday, I was calling
1973
01:03:23,077 --> 01:03:25,009
her voice mail.
1974
01:03:25,010 --> 01:03:26,209
Then a few days later, I called
1975
01:03:26,210 --> 01:03:27,410
my brother, and he was like,
1976
01:03:27,411 --> 01:03:28,210
"well, let me see.
1977
01:03:28,211 --> 01:03:29,210
She'll answer my phone."
1978
01:03:29,211 --> 01:03:30,810
And he called, and he was like,
1979
01:03:30,811 --> 01:03:32,010
"now it's going straight
1980
01:03:32,011 --> 01:03:34,178
to voice mail."
1981
01:03:43,645 --> 01:03:44,545
Maureen's brother
1982
01:03:44,545 --> 01:03:45,245
and sister immediately
1983
01:03:45,246 --> 01:03:46,611
began to search for her
1984
01:03:46,612 --> 01:03:47,811
themselves.
1985
01:03:47,812 --> 01:03:48,844
They found the reaction
1986
01:03:48,845 --> 01:03:52,479
they encountered hard to bear.
1987
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:53,879
After Maureen went missing,
1988
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:55,178
my brother and my husband jumped
1989
01:03:55,179 --> 01:03:56,179
on their bikes, and they went
1990
01:03:56,180 --> 01:03:59,179
to Manhattan to go ask people,
1991
01:03:59,180 --> 01:04:00,080
you know, "have you seen
1992
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:00,880
my sister?
1993
01:04:00,881 --> 01:04:04,079
You know, do you know her?"
1994
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:05,079
They said, "it's a different
1995
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,279
world out there.
1996
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,180
No one cares.
1997
01:04:07,181 --> 01:04:08,580
Everybody's too busy to stop
1998
01:04:08,581 --> 01:04:09,980
and actually talk to you
1999
01:04:09,981 --> 01:04:11,513
and want to help.
2000
01:04:11,514 --> 01:04:13,713
Nobody's seen her.
2001
01:04:13,714 --> 01:04:16,213
No one knows her."
2002
01:04:16,214 --> 01:04:16,914
Back home in
2003
01:04:16,915 --> 01:04:18,381
Connecticut, they turned
2004
01:04:18,382 --> 01:04:19,247
to the police
2005
01:04:19,248 --> 01:04:22,381
to report her missing.
2006
01:04:22,382 --> 01:04:24,781
The police officer was like,
2007
01:04:24,782 --> 01:04:26,981
you know, "maybe she ran away.
2008
01:04:26,982 --> 01:04:29,748
Maybe she doesn't care."
2009
01:04:29,749 --> 01:04:30,516
I don't know if he was trying
2010
01:04:30,517 --> 01:04:31,914
to make us feel better or what,
2011
01:04:31,915 --> 01:04:33,114
but it made it seem like
2012
01:04:33,115 --> 01:04:35,115
he didn't care at all.
2013
01:04:35,116 --> 01:04:36,115
And, like, my brother was so
2014
01:04:36,116 --> 01:04:36,983
upset, he had to walk out
2015
01:04:36,984 --> 01:04:39,582
the door.
2016
01:04:39,583 --> 01:04:41,182
I grabbed the missing persons
2017
01:04:41,183 --> 01:04:42,049
papers.
2018
01:04:42,050 --> 01:04:43,848
We returned them that week.
2019
01:04:43,849 --> 01:04:45,048
Took them 2 1/2 years
2020
01:04:45,049 --> 01:04:48,248
to put her in the database.
2021
01:04:48,249 --> 01:04:49,716
The irony is that
2022
01:04:49,717 --> 01:04:51,116
Maureen had actually stopped
2023
01:04:51,117 --> 01:04:52,583
working as an escort when
2024
01:04:52,584 --> 01:04:55,083
she disappeared.
2025
01:04:55,084 --> 01:04:55,950
She was living back in
2026
01:04:55,950 --> 01:04:56,917
Connecticut with her two
2027
01:04:56,918 --> 01:04:58,450
young children and was looking
2028
01:04:58,451 --> 01:04:59,550
for a job she could
2029
01:04:59,551 --> 01:05:02,017
fit around child care.
2030
01:05:02,018 --> 01:05:04,450
She would come to my house,
2031
01:05:04,451 --> 01:05:06,550
go through the papers.
2032
01:05:06,551 --> 01:05:08,451
She applied from, you know,
2033
01:05:08,452 --> 01:05:09,451
stop-and-shop jobs
2034
01:05:09,452 --> 01:05:12,050
and dunkin' donuts jobs.
2035
01:05:12,051 --> 01:05:13,084
It wasn't like Maureen
2036
01:05:13,085 --> 01:05:13,919
didn't look.
2037
01:05:13,920 --> 01:05:16,118
She looked.
2038
01:05:16,119 --> 01:05:19,118
Then in July 2007,
2039
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:21,118
she got an eviction order.
2040
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:22,486
The week before the court
2041
01:05:22,487 --> 01:05:24,519
hearing, Maureen went back
2042
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:26,218
on craigslist and arranged to
2043
01:05:26,219 --> 01:05:30,386
meet the client in Manhattan.
2044
01:05:34,388 --> 01:05:35,487
The last signal on her
2045
01:05:35,488 --> 01:05:36,886
cell phone came from
2046
01:05:36,887 --> 01:05:38,520
long island, just miles
2047
01:05:38,521 --> 01:05:40,554
from oak beach.
2048
01:05:50,221 --> 01:05:51,021
All right, three.
2049
01:05:51,021 --> 01:05:51,954
Now we're gonna move down
2050
01:05:51,954 --> 01:05:52,822
the beach a little bit,
2051
01:05:52,823 --> 01:05:54,922
see if we can find more.
2052
01:05:59,022 --> 01:06:01,422
On march 29, 2011,
2053
01:06:01,423 --> 01:06:02,988
three months after the first
2054
01:06:02,989 --> 01:06:04,455
victims were found,
2055
01:06:04,456 --> 01:06:05,655
the story of this killer
2056
01:06:05,656 --> 01:06:07,856
took an unexpected turn.
2057
01:06:12,790 --> 01:06:13,855
Two miles to the east of his
2058
01:06:13,856 --> 01:06:15,889
first victims, police found
2059
01:06:15,890 --> 01:06:21,222
a head, hands, and forearm.
2060
01:06:21,223 --> 01:06:22,623
They were the remains of a woman
2061
01:06:22,624 --> 01:06:26,023
named Jessica Taylor.
2062
01:06:26,024 --> 01:06:27,623
We know that miss Taylor
2063
01:06:27,624 --> 01:06:29,156
had lived and worked
2064
01:06:29,157 --> 01:06:31,156
as a prostitute in Washington,
2065
01:06:31,157 --> 01:06:34,391
D.C., but had fled from there
2066
01:06:34,392 --> 01:06:36,157
to New York City, where she
2067
01:06:36,158 --> 01:06:38,157
remained for a few days
2068
01:06:38,158 --> 01:06:41,392
prior to her disappearance.
2069
01:06:41,393 --> 01:06:43,957
Taylor was identified from
2070
01:06:43,958 --> 01:06:46,392
a tattoo on her back.
2071
01:06:46,393 --> 01:06:48,958
This, again, was another change.
2072
01:06:48,959 --> 01:06:50,292
To be honest with you, I wasn't
2073
01:06:50,293 --> 01:06:51,825
surprised.
2074
01:06:51,826 --> 01:06:54,825
I mean, I was thinking four.
2075
01:06:54,826 --> 01:06:55,825
You know, there may be more
2076
01:06:55,826 --> 01:06:58,158
out there.
2077
01:06:58,159 --> 01:06:58,960
What made this
2078
01:06:58,961 --> 01:07:00,893
twist more disturbing was that
2079
01:07:00,894 --> 01:07:02,093
the rest of Jessica Taylor's
2080
01:07:02,094 --> 01:07:03,226
body was found
2081
01:07:03,227 --> 01:07:04,459
eight years earlier
2082
01:07:04,460 --> 01:07:06,059
in a long island town 40 miles
2083
01:07:06,060 --> 01:07:08,226
away, and that discovery
2084
01:07:08,227 --> 01:07:10,595
was just the beginning.
2085
01:07:18,495 --> 01:07:20,627
At the end of march
2086
01:07:20,628 --> 01:07:22,894
2011, police discovered a fifth
2087
01:07:22,895 --> 01:07:24,160
body on the same stretch of
2088
01:07:24,161 --> 01:07:28,028
beach as the first four victims,
2089
01:07:28,029 --> 01:07:29,761
this time, a dismembered woman
2090
01:07:29,762 --> 01:07:33,295
who'd been killed years earlier.
2091
01:07:33,296 --> 01:07:34,661
In early April,
2092
01:07:34,662 --> 01:07:36,228
a further search began.
2093
01:07:36,229 --> 01:07:38,462
Once again, no one was prepared
2094
01:07:38,463 --> 01:07:40,497
for what they found.
2095
01:07:51,464 --> 01:07:53,262
It's all been very startling.
2096
01:07:53,263 --> 01:07:54,730
All of it has been.
2097
01:07:54,731 --> 01:07:55,564
I really... I don't have
2098
01:07:55,564 --> 01:07:56,498
a reaction for you
2099
01:07:56,499 --> 01:07:57,498
because it's just amazing
2100
01:07:57,499 --> 01:07:59,697
that we're finding these things.
2101
01:07:59,698 --> 01:08:00,664
So obviously, we have
2102
01:08:00,665 --> 01:08:04,097
a lot of work to do.
2103
01:08:04,098 --> 01:08:07,297
We initially found four,
2104
01:08:07,298 --> 01:08:10,798
and then we found six more.
2105
01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:13,565
Total of ten.
2106
01:08:13,566 --> 01:08:14,565
In early April
2107
01:08:14,566 --> 01:08:16,765
2011, days after the discovery
2108
01:08:16,766 --> 01:08:18,231
of the fifth body,
2109
01:08:18,232 --> 01:08:19,999
the police found more human
2110
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,465
remains in the same area:
2111
01:08:22,466 --> 01:08:23,400
Two women who'd been
2112
01:08:23,401 --> 01:08:25,699
dismembered, an Asian man
2113
01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:27,299
who'd been beaten to death,
2114
01:08:27,300 --> 01:08:28,633
an infant child
2115
01:08:28,634 --> 01:08:30,400
about 18 months old,
2116
01:08:30,401 --> 01:08:32,265
and two unidentified remains
2117
01:08:32,266 --> 01:08:35,001
to the south.
2118
01:08:35,034 --> 01:08:36,233
This was a twist in
2119
01:08:36,234 --> 01:08:37,167
the story.
2120
01:08:37,167 --> 01:08:38,001
This was something that
2121
01:08:38,002 --> 01:08:39,300
we weren't expecting.
2122
01:08:39,301 --> 01:08:40,600
I mean, we were expecting,
2123
01:08:40,601 --> 01:08:41,833
you know, sex workers,
2124
01:08:41,834 --> 01:08:43,834
prostitutes, and so this was
2125
01:08:43,835 --> 01:08:46,434
an equation that really
2126
01:08:46,435 --> 01:08:48,034
threw us for a loop at first.
2127
01:08:48,035 --> 01:08:49,067
We were trying to figure out
2128
01:08:49,068 --> 01:08:53,201
what was going on here.
2129
01:08:53,202 --> 01:08:55,134
They'd found more,
2130
01:08:55,135 --> 01:08:57,569
and it started all over again.
2131
01:08:59,302 --> 01:09:00,301
I was just like,
2132
01:09:00,302 --> 01:09:01,768
"oh, my god."
2133
01:09:01,769 --> 01:09:04,935
Like, a baby.
2134
01:09:04,936 --> 01:09:06,135
How could the police find
2135
01:09:06,136 --> 01:09:07,935
all these bodies in the same
2136
01:09:07,936 --> 01:09:11,403
area all of a sudden?
2137
01:09:11,404 --> 01:09:15,070
There are so many whys.
2138
01:09:15,104 --> 01:09:16,469
Each time they found somebody
2139
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:17,536
else, it was like the cops
2140
01:09:17,537 --> 01:09:19,470
just came and banged on my door.
2141
01:09:19,471 --> 01:09:20,570
It's like it brings everything
2142
01:09:20,571 --> 01:09:23,404
right back to the beginning.
2143
01:09:23,405 --> 01:09:24,237
It was hell.
2144
01:09:24,238 --> 01:09:26,937
It was devastating.
2145
01:09:31,705 --> 01:09:33,237
Long island woke up
2146
01:09:33,238 --> 01:09:34,837
to the news that an almost
2147
01:09:34,838 --> 01:09:36,638
unbelievable crime was unfolding
2148
01:09:36,639 --> 01:09:41,038
on its south shore.
2149
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:42,405
On the isolated oceanfront
2150
01:09:42,406 --> 01:09:44,138
beside beaches packed with
2151
01:09:44,139 --> 01:09:46,138
tourists in summer, police had
2152
01:09:46,139 --> 01:09:48,305
first found four bodies,
2153
01:09:48,306 --> 01:09:51,272
and now they'd found six more.
2154
01:09:56,273 --> 01:09:57,272
There was different theories
2155
01:09:57,273 --> 01:09:58,472
out there, even within
2156
01:09:58,473 --> 01:09:59,672
law enforcement.
2157
01:09:59,673 --> 01:10:01,540
The way the bodies were disposed
2158
01:10:01,541 --> 01:10:03,306
of was a little different.
2159
01:10:03,307 --> 01:10:06,139
Is it more than one killer?
2160
01:10:06,140 --> 01:10:07,540
The latest find
2161
01:10:07,541 --> 01:10:08,607
raised the possibility that
2162
01:10:08,608 --> 01:10:09,873
more than one killer
2163
01:10:09,874 --> 01:10:11,408
might be at work and that
2164
01:10:11,409 --> 01:10:14,940
it might be as many as four.
2165
01:10:14,941 --> 01:10:17,140
It's a tough area.
2166
01:10:17,141 --> 01:10:18,108
It's very easy to miss
2167
01:10:18,109 --> 01:10:19,474
something.
2168
01:10:19,475 --> 01:10:21,074
And if there are any more bodies
2169
01:10:21,075 --> 01:10:25,274
out there, we want to find them.
2170
01:10:25,275 --> 01:10:27,074
This is the biggest incident
2171
01:10:27,075 --> 01:10:28,874
in my career and in the career
2172
01:10:28,875 --> 01:10:30,274
of many of the officers that
2173
01:10:30,275 --> 01:10:32,675
are working this case.
2174
01:10:32,676 --> 01:10:33,875
And it got bigger.
2175
01:10:33,876 --> 01:10:37,110
It's now larger than life.
2176
01:10:40,477 --> 01:10:42,275
What we do know for certain
2177
01:10:42,276 --> 01:10:44,643
and what is now very clear
2178
01:10:44,644 --> 01:10:46,643
is that the area in and around
2179
01:10:46,644 --> 01:10:48,843
Gilgo beach has been used
2180
01:10:48,844 --> 01:10:51,043
to discard human remains
2181
01:10:51,044 --> 01:10:53,412
for some period of time.
2182
01:10:56,244 --> 01:10:57,243
The discovery of
2183
01:10:57,244 --> 01:10:59,644
one body led to nine more,
2184
01:10:59,645 --> 01:11:01,044
and this strip of oceanfront
2185
01:11:01,045 --> 01:11:02,844
road was uncovered as a dumping
2186
01:11:02,845 --> 01:11:05,412
ground for multiple killers.
2187
01:11:05,413 --> 01:11:06,977
It had all started with
2188
01:11:06,978 --> 01:11:08,412
the search for one woman
2189
01:11:08,413 --> 01:11:09,812
who disappeared from oak beach,
2190
01:11:09,845 --> 01:11:12,812
a 23-year-old escort named
2191
01:11:12,813 --> 01:11:15,412
Shannan Gilbert.
2192
01:11:15,413 --> 01:11:17,178
It was just my fear that she
2193
01:11:17,179 --> 01:11:19,145
was just lying there somewhere,
2194
01:11:19,146 --> 01:11:20,778
and she was just there,
2195
01:11:20,779 --> 01:11:21,978
and nobody even wanted to go
2196
01:11:21,979 --> 01:11:24,414
look for her.
2197
01:11:28,047 --> 01:11:29,014
Shannan's family
2198
01:11:29,015 --> 01:11:30,946
had waited again for news that
2199
01:11:30,947 --> 01:11:32,713
she was among the bodies.
2200
01:11:32,714 --> 01:11:33,746
And again, the police called
2201
01:11:33,747 --> 01:11:34,681
them to say she'd been
2202
01:11:34,681 --> 01:11:36,715
ruled out.
2203
01:11:39,415 --> 01:11:40,680
A year on, her mother
2204
01:11:40,681 --> 01:11:41,980
was more convinced than ever
2205
01:11:41,981 --> 01:11:43,114
that the answer to her
2206
01:11:43,115 --> 01:11:44,580
daughter's disappearance
2207
01:11:44,581 --> 01:11:45,747
lay in the long island
2208
01:11:45,748 --> 01:11:47,181
community.
2209
01:11:47,215 --> 01:11:48,780
These are the books
2210
01:11:48,781 --> 01:11:51,981
that Shannan had.
2211
01:11:51,981 --> 01:11:55,782
It's filled with names,
2212
01:11:55,816 --> 01:11:57,581
addresses,
2213
01:11:57,582 --> 01:12:03,149
and phone numbers of clients.
2214
01:12:05,417 --> 01:12:08,549
And slowly but surely,
2215
01:12:08,550 --> 01:12:10,149
my friends and I were going
2216
01:12:10,150 --> 01:12:11,417
through every name and every
2217
01:12:11,418 --> 01:12:13,417
number.
2218
01:12:13,418 --> 01:12:15,149
The majority of clients in here
2219
01:12:15,150 --> 01:12:19,149
are very wealthy, well-to-do.
2220
01:12:19,150 --> 01:12:22,417
In fact, one of our...
2221
01:12:22,418 --> 01:12:23,950
One of my last conversations
2222
01:12:23,951 --> 01:12:25,150
with my daughter when she came
2223
01:12:25,151 --> 01:12:28,750
to visit, she says, "mommy."
2224
01:12:28,751 --> 01:12:30,283
She says, "I'm okay.
2225
01:12:30,284 --> 01:12:32,283
You wouldn't believe
2226
01:12:32,284 --> 01:12:34,718
the clients I have.
2227
01:12:34,719 --> 01:12:35,685
These are doctors.
2228
01:12:35,686 --> 01:12:36,685
They're lawyers.
2229
01:12:36,686 --> 01:12:37,685
They're judges.
2230
01:12:37,685 --> 01:12:38,619
They're teachers.
2231
01:12:38,620 --> 01:12:41,818
The money is incredible."
2232
01:12:41,819 --> 01:12:43,419
She said, "I'm going to school.
2233
01:12:43,420 --> 01:12:44,785
When I get my degree, mom,
2234
01:12:44,786 --> 01:12:47,219
I promise, I'm gonna stop."
2235
01:12:51,153 --> 01:12:52,952
I thought that since she's
2236
01:12:52,953 --> 01:12:55,553
so smart, if anything was bad
2237
01:12:55,554 --> 01:12:57,152
or not a safe situation
2238
01:12:57,153 --> 01:12:59,152
or a safe place, that she
2239
01:12:59,153 --> 01:13:01,620
would leave.
2240
01:13:01,621 --> 01:13:05,620
And she tried to that night.
2241
01:13:05,621 --> 01:13:06,620
On the night of
2242
01:13:06,621 --> 01:13:09,320
may 1, 2010, Shannan met up
2243
01:13:09,321 --> 01:13:10,953
with her driver, Michael pak,
2244
01:13:10,954 --> 01:13:12,253
in Manhattan.
2245
01:13:12,254 --> 01:13:13,754
After Shannan's success on
2246
01:13:13,755 --> 01:13:15,587
craigslist, they'd both quit
2247
01:13:15,588 --> 01:13:16,887
the escort agency they worked
2248
01:13:16,888 --> 01:13:20,122
for and gone freelance together.
2249
01:13:20,155 --> 01:13:21,122
We're like, "all right,
2250
01:13:21,122 --> 01:13:21,955
forget this, you know?
2251
01:13:21,956 --> 01:13:23,087
We can just do it ourselves."
2252
01:13:23,088 --> 01:13:25,254
So... yeah, so we did.
2253
01:13:25,255 --> 01:13:26,055
You know, cut out
2254
01:13:26,056 --> 01:13:28,056
the middleman.
2255
01:13:28,089 --> 01:13:28,856
That night,
2256
01:13:28,857 --> 01:13:30,822
pak says Shannan posted her ad
2257
01:13:30,823 --> 01:13:32,322
not on craigslist
2258
01:13:32,323 --> 01:13:33,423
but on a rival site
2259
01:13:33,424 --> 01:13:34,855
called backpage.
2260
01:13:34,856 --> 01:13:36,188
She was booked by a client
2261
01:13:36,189 --> 01:13:38,288
named Joseph brewer who lived
2262
01:13:38,289 --> 01:13:39,423
in the gated community of
2263
01:13:39,424 --> 01:13:41,556
oak beach.
2264
01:13:41,557 --> 01:13:42,789
Shannan had been in his house
2265
01:13:42,790 --> 01:13:44,723
for about two hours when brewer
2266
01:13:44,724 --> 01:13:46,023
called Michael pak into
2267
01:13:46,024 --> 01:13:47,524
the house.
2268
01:13:47,525 --> 01:13:49,289
She freaked out.
2269
01:13:49,290 --> 01:13:50,057
She said, "you guys
2270
01:13:50,058 --> 01:13:52,323
are trying to kill me."
2271
01:13:52,324 --> 01:13:53,323
She went behind the couch,
2272
01:13:53,324 --> 01:13:55,457
crouched down, and then I...
2273
01:13:55,458 --> 01:13:57,057
So I went there, and I looked
2274
01:13:57,058 --> 01:13:58,224
at her, and I said, you know,
2275
01:13:58,225 --> 01:13:59,624
"Shannan, what are you doing?"
2276
01:13:59,625 --> 01:14:00,824
You know, and then I was trying
2277
01:14:00,825 --> 01:14:01,890
to think, you know, "is she
2278
01:14:01,891 --> 01:14:03,491
really messed up on drugs or..."
2279
01:14:03,492 --> 01:14:04,725
So I tried to test her by
2280
01:14:04,726 --> 01:14:06,525
asking her, "have you seen
2281
01:14:06,526 --> 01:14:08,324
the movie fear and loathing in
2282
01:14:08,325 --> 01:14:11,725
Las Vegas?"
2283
01:14:11,726 --> 01:14:13,125
She said, "yes."
2284
01:14:13,126 --> 01:14:13,992
So I thought, "oh, okay.
2285
01:14:13,992 --> 01:14:14,792
So she is coherent, then.
2286
01:14:14,793 --> 01:14:16,827
She's just acting."
2287
01:14:18,427 --> 01:14:19,326
And then, you know, I heard,
2288
01:14:19,327 --> 01:14:21,559
like, a 911 operator, a lady
2289
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:23,960
on her phone.
2290
01:14:23,993 --> 01:14:24,960
And that's when I realized,
2291
01:14:24,961 --> 01:14:25,960
"oh, she's on the phone
2292
01:14:25,961 --> 01:14:27,959
with 911."
2293
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,427
So I thought, "oh, she's trying
2294
01:14:29,428 --> 01:14:30,327
to set me up."
2295
01:14:30,327 --> 01:14:30,993
She's saying, you know,
2296
01:14:30,993 --> 01:14:31,694
"you guys are trying
2297
01:14:31,694 --> 01:14:32,428
to kill me."
2298
01:14:32,428 --> 01:14:33,260
She wants me to leave,
2299
01:14:33,261 --> 01:14:36,327
so I left.
2300
01:14:36,328 --> 01:14:37,228
The driver was back
2301
01:14:37,229 --> 01:14:38,993
in his car when he says he saw
2302
01:14:38,994 --> 01:14:40,660
Shannan running from the house
2303
01:14:40,661 --> 01:14:42,594
and started to follow her.
2304
01:14:42,595 --> 01:14:43,562
I turned the lights on
2305
01:14:43,562 --> 01:14:44,529
and everything, and I drove
2306
01:14:44,530 --> 01:14:46,127
slowly, and I said, "Shannan,
2307
01:14:46,128 --> 01:14:47,128
where are you, Shannan?"
2308
01:14:47,129 --> 01:14:48,128
You know, 'cause there were,
2309
01:14:48,129 --> 01:14:50,528
like, high... high bushes.
2310
01:14:50,529 --> 01:14:52,128
You could see a car coming,
2311
01:14:52,129 --> 01:14:53,694
and it was stopping and going,
2312
01:14:53,695 --> 01:14:55,261
stopping and going.
2313
01:14:55,262 --> 01:14:56,462
I ran down off the deck,
2314
01:14:56,463 --> 01:14:57,462
and I met him over there,
2315
01:14:57,463 --> 01:14:59,328
and I stopped his car.
2316
01:14:59,329 --> 01:15:00,195
He said he's gonna call
2317
01:15:00,195 --> 01:15:01,063
the cops, and I said, "no,
2318
01:15:01,063 --> 01:15:02,030
you don't have to do that."
2319
01:15:02,031 --> 01:15:03,229
At that point, she bolted out
2320
01:15:03,230 --> 01:15:07,229
and ran down the road that way.
2321
01:15:07,230 --> 01:15:09,029
He took off after her.
2322
01:15:09,030 --> 01:15:11,531
That was the last I saw of her.
2323
01:15:13,431 --> 01:15:15,830
I couldn't find her.
2324
01:15:15,831 --> 01:15:17,630
I called her name, and then
2325
01:15:17,631 --> 01:15:20,230
I called her on the phone.
2326
01:15:20,231 --> 01:15:21,131
And I said, "Shannan,
2327
01:15:21,132 --> 01:15:24,497
where are you?"
2328
01:15:24,498 --> 01:15:25,864
I couldn't find her.
2329
01:15:25,865 --> 01:15:28,198
That's it.
2330
01:15:30,098 --> 01:15:31,032
That was the last
2331
01:15:31,033 --> 01:15:33,664
time Shannan was seen alive.
2332
01:15:33,665 --> 01:15:35,498
Police questioned Joseph brewer
2333
01:15:35,499 --> 01:15:37,164
and Michael pak, but neither is
2334
01:15:37,165 --> 01:15:39,699
a suspect in her disappearance.
2335
01:15:47,733 --> 01:15:49,298
Okay, everybody,
2336
01:15:49,299 --> 01:15:51,198
we're ready to start.
2337
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:54,099
And good afternoon.
2338
01:15:54,100 --> 01:15:56,866
We're hoping that by having
2339
01:15:56,867 --> 01:15:57,866
this press conference and
2340
01:15:57,867 --> 01:15:59,467
getting the message out
2341
01:15:59,468 --> 01:16:00,866
to the public that somebody
2342
01:16:00,867 --> 01:16:02,333
will recognize somebody,
2343
01:16:02,334 --> 01:16:03,333
and that will be a break
2344
01:16:03,334 --> 01:16:05,435
in the case.
2345
01:16:08,068 --> 01:16:10,267
By September 2011,
2346
01:16:10,268 --> 01:16:11,867
the DNA was coming back on
2347
01:16:11,868 --> 01:16:14,067
the new, unidentified victims:
2348
01:16:14,068 --> 01:16:15,067
Three women who'd been
2349
01:16:15,068 --> 01:16:16,868
dismembered, an Asian man
2350
01:16:16,869 --> 01:16:19,300
beaten to death, and a child.
2351
01:16:19,301 --> 01:16:20,135
They were thought at first
2352
01:16:20,136 --> 01:16:21,201
to be the separate victims
2353
01:16:21,202 --> 01:16:23,535
of separate killers, but strange
2354
01:16:23,536 --> 01:16:27,235
new links were now emerging.
2355
01:16:27,236 --> 01:16:29,536
This is a mystery
2356
01:16:29,537 --> 01:16:32,436
with a lot of twists and turns.
2357
01:16:32,437 --> 01:16:34,436
Like the fifth
2358
01:16:34,437 --> 01:16:36,169
victim, the body parts of one
2359
01:16:36,170 --> 01:16:37,436
of the women had been found
2360
01:16:37,437 --> 01:16:39,437
over a decade earlier in another
2361
01:16:39,438 --> 01:16:41,437
long island town.
2362
01:16:41,438 --> 01:16:42,570
She and the child,
2363
01:16:42,571 --> 01:16:43,969
about 18 months old,
2364
01:16:43,970 --> 01:16:46,771
were wearing matching jewelry.
2365
01:16:46,804 --> 01:16:48,770
The toddler now was
2366
01:16:48,771 --> 01:16:50,437
connected.
2367
01:16:50,438 --> 01:16:53,438
It appears to be the mom.
2368
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:54,638
We know that sex workers
2369
01:16:54,639 --> 01:16:56,103
sometimes take their toddlers
2370
01:16:56,104 --> 01:16:57,103
with them.
2371
01:16:57,104 --> 01:17:00,504
As crazy as it sounds,
2372
01:17:00,505 --> 01:17:01,439
it happens.
2373
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:04,604
The other twist was, the
2374
01:17:04,605 --> 01:17:05,771
the Asian male was wearing
2375
01:17:05,772 --> 01:17:07,439
women's clothes.
2376
01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:11,539
Very small stature, slim.
2377
01:17:11,540 --> 01:17:12,972
Again, the theory is that this
2378
01:17:12,973 --> 01:17:13,972
person may have been working
2379
01:17:13,973 --> 01:17:16,072
in the sex business.
2380
01:17:16,073 --> 01:17:18,705
It also emerged
2381
01:17:18,706 --> 01:17:20,105
that another unidentified
2382
01:17:20,106 --> 01:17:21,506
victim was linked with
2383
01:17:21,507 --> 01:17:23,440
a grisly discovery 15 years
2384
01:17:23,441 --> 01:17:27,473
earlier on nearby fire island.
2385
01:17:27,474 --> 01:17:28,873
One of our retired detectives
2386
01:17:28,874 --> 01:17:30,706
called the homicide squad
2387
01:17:30,707 --> 01:17:32,106
and said, "you should look
2388
01:17:32,107 --> 01:17:34,140
at the legs that were found
2389
01:17:34,141 --> 01:17:38,140
in 1996."
2390
01:17:38,141 --> 01:17:41,541
And the DNA matched up.
2391
01:17:41,542 --> 01:17:42,574
The police were now
2392
01:17:42,575 --> 01:17:43,974
working on the theory that
2393
01:17:43,975 --> 01:17:45,442
every one of the victims
2394
01:17:45,443 --> 01:17:46,941
discovered was connected to the
2395
01:17:46,942 --> 01:17:48,941
sex trade, and that led them to
2396
01:17:48,942 --> 01:17:51,476
a very frightening conclusion.
2397
01:17:56,443 --> 01:17:58,342
When ten bodies
2398
01:17:58,343 --> 01:17:59,742
were discovered on long island
2399
01:17:59,743 --> 01:18:02,008
last winter, it seemed possible
2400
01:18:02,009 --> 01:18:03,443
that police had accidentally
2401
01:18:03,444 --> 01:18:04,809
stumbled on the dumping ground
2402
01:18:04,810 --> 01:18:07,743
of several different killers.
2403
01:18:07,744 --> 01:18:10,109
This winter, police are pursuing
2404
01:18:10,110 --> 01:18:11,809
a new theory.
2405
01:18:11,810 --> 01:18:15,444
Serial killers evolve.
2406
01:18:15,445 --> 01:18:17,176
They change in how they do
2407
01:18:17,177 --> 01:18:20,176
things.
2408
01:18:20,177 --> 01:18:21,444
We believe it's one person,
2409
01:18:21,445 --> 01:18:23,445
one killer.
2410
01:18:24,745 --> 01:18:25,578
They think he
2411
01:18:25,579 --> 01:18:27,977
started killing 15 years ago.
2412
01:18:27,978 --> 01:18:30,445
But in 2007, he refined his
2413
01:18:30,446 --> 01:18:33,011
methods and went online.
2414
01:18:33,012 --> 01:18:34,811
Maureen brainard-Barnes was
2415
01:18:34,812 --> 01:18:36,011
the first victim connected
2416
01:18:36,012 --> 01:18:37,811
to craigslist, and the others
2417
01:18:37,812 --> 01:18:42,812
followed in 2009 and 2010.
2418
01:18:42,813 --> 01:18:43,812
They're gonna find more
2419
01:18:43,813 --> 01:18:46,612
bodies, because a serial killer
2420
01:18:46,613 --> 01:18:48,012
doesn't stop killing.
2421
01:18:48,013 --> 01:18:49,012
He keeps killing till
2422
01:18:49,013 --> 01:18:51,247
he gets caught.
2423
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,080
The one person
2424
01:18:52,081 --> 01:18:54,447
police believe is not connected
2425
01:18:54,448 --> 01:18:56,979
is Shannan.
2426
01:18:56,980 --> 01:18:57,948
There doesn't seem to be
2427
01:18:57,949 --> 01:18:59,447
any connection.
2428
01:18:59,448 --> 01:19:01,681
Everything is different.
2429
01:19:01,714 --> 01:19:03,547
It is some coincidence that
2430
01:19:03,548 --> 01:19:05,047
she went missing in the same
2431
01:19:05,048 --> 01:19:06,581
area where the bodies were
2432
01:19:06,582 --> 01:19:08,913
dumped.
2433
01:19:08,914 --> 01:19:10,313
But when you look at it closely
2434
01:19:10,314 --> 01:19:12,113
and you look at the evidence,
2435
01:19:12,114 --> 01:19:13,714
Shannan Gilbert is a separate
2436
01:19:13,715 --> 01:19:16,314
case.
2437
01:19:16,315 --> 01:19:17,282
So the woman whose
2438
01:19:17,283 --> 01:19:19,081
disappearance started it all
2439
01:19:19,082 --> 01:19:22,014
is still missing.
2440
01:19:22,015 --> 01:19:23,615
It appears that whatever else
2441
01:19:23,616 --> 01:19:25,048
happened to Shannan that night,
2442
01:19:25,049 --> 01:19:26,114
she did not encounter
2443
01:19:26,115 --> 01:19:27,682
the serial killer who murdered
2444
01:19:27,683 --> 01:19:29,982
the other four women,
2445
01:19:29,983 --> 01:19:31,450
which leaves her mother,
2446
01:19:31,451 --> 01:19:32,949
like the other families,
2447
01:19:32,950 --> 01:19:34,983
searching for answers.
2448
01:19:40,151 --> 01:19:41,349
Me and the other victims'
2449
01:19:41,350 --> 01:19:45,350
families, we're one big family
2450
01:19:45,351 --> 01:19:46,750
now,
2451
01:19:46,751 --> 01:19:47,718
not by blood.
2452
01:19:47,719 --> 01:19:50,917
We were brought as a family
2453
01:19:50,918 --> 01:19:53,351
by tragedy.
2454
01:19:56,318 --> 01:19:57,317
We're just trying to help
2455
01:19:57,318 --> 01:19:59,117
each other right now.
2456
01:19:59,118 --> 01:20:00,717
Let everybody get through it
2457
01:20:00,718 --> 01:20:03,317
until they find this guy.
2458
01:20:03,318 --> 01:20:04,452
And I just hope they find him
2459
01:20:04,453 --> 01:20:06,251
in our lifetime, that it don't
2460
01:20:06,252 --> 01:20:08,418
take more deaths.
2461
01:20:08,419 --> 01:20:09,418
I mean, for all we know,
2462
01:20:09,419 --> 01:20:10,353
he could have picked two or
2463
01:20:10,353 --> 01:20:11,319
three girls up this summer
2464
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:12,319
and be doing the same thing
2465
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,353
to them.
2466
01:20:22,353 --> 01:20:23,753
My name is Mari Gilbert.
2467
01:20:23,754 --> 01:20:25,286
My daughter is Shannan.
2468
01:20:25,287 --> 01:20:27,420
She is out there.
2469
01:20:27,421 --> 01:20:28,720
We're gonna find her,
2470
01:20:28,721 --> 01:20:29,919
and we're gonna find out who
2471
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:33,120
hurt Shannan and all the others.
2472
01:20:33,121 --> 01:20:35,720
Thank you.
2473
01:20:35,721 --> 01:20:36,720
In the parking lot
2474
01:20:36,721 --> 01:20:38,554
beside oak beach, the five
2475
01:20:38,555 --> 01:20:39,489
families gathered for
2476
01:20:39,490 --> 01:20:40,820
a press conference to keep
2477
01:20:40,821 --> 01:20:41,854
the search for Shannan
2478
01:20:41,855 --> 01:20:45,021
in the public eye.
2479
01:20:45,022 --> 01:20:45,956
In the last year,
2480
01:20:45,957 --> 01:20:47,121
they have grown increasingly
2481
01:20:47,122 --> 01:20:48,089
critical of the police
2482
01:20:48,090 --> 01:20:50,555
investigation.
2483
01:20:50,556 --> 01:20:53,121
When we call Suffolk's police
2484
01:20:53,122 --> 01:20:55,522
department, the only thing
2485
01:20:55,523 --> 01:20:57,321
they tell us is, "like we told
2486
01:20:57,322 --> 01:20:58,256
you before, we ain't gonna
2487
01:20:58,257 --> 01:20:59,856
tell you nothing."
2488
01:20:59,857 --> 01:21:01,056
Well, you guys need to realize
2489
01:21:01,057 --> 01:21:02,922
something.
2490
01:21:02,923 --> 01:21:03,922
Not only was our daughters
2491
01:21:03,923 --> 01:21:05,922
victims; Their families
2492
01:21:05,923 --> 01:21:07,523
were also victims.
2493
01:21:07,524 --> 01:21:08,723
For you to sit there and tell us
2494
01:21:08,724 --> 01:21:09,922
that, "we can't tell you
2495
01:21:09,923 --> 01:21:11,723
nothing," that makes us think
2496
01:21:11,724 --> 01:21:12,923
that you're putting this off
2497
01:21:12,924 --> 01:21:13,923
to the side...
2498
01:21:13,924 --> 01:21:15,723
My daughter was Melissa
2499
01:21:15,724 --> 01:21:16,624
Barthelemy.
2500
01:21:16,624 --> 01:21:17,558
Because of the profession
2501
01:21:17,559 --> 01:21:21,157
that these girls had.
2502
01:21:21,158 --> 01:21:22,157
I don't blame them for
2503
01:21:22,158 --> 01:21:23,357
being upset.
2504
01:21:23,358 --> 01:21:24,991
They want a conclusion.
2505
01:21:24,992 --> 01:21:27,458
They want this person caught.
2506
01:21:27,459 --> 01:21:30,091
But the occupation of the victim
2507
01:21:30,092 --> 01:21:31,091
has no bearing on the
2508
01:21:31,092 --> 01:21:31,892
investigation.
2509
01:21:31,893 --> 01:21:34,526
We have a murderer out there.
2510
01:21:42,893 --> 01:21:43,826
The five families
2511
01:21:43,827 --> 01:21:45,025
have also become an online
2512
01:21:45,026 --> 01:21:46,460
network sharing what they've
2513
01:21:46,461 --> 01:21:47,593
learnt about the sex trade
2514
01:21:47,594 --> 01:21:49,025
their daughters and sisters
2515
01:21:49,026 --> 01:21:50,793
were drawn into.
2516
01:21:50,794 --> 01:21:52,626
They're all angry at craigslist.
2517
01:21:52,627 --> 01:21:54,460
Five women have now been killed
2518
01:21:54,461 --> 01:21:55,993
after advertising as escorts
2519
01:21:55,994 --> 01:21:57,461
on its pages.
2520
01:21:57,462 --> 01:21:58,361
They thought it was
2521
01:21:58,362 --> 01:22:02,926
a safe way to advertise,
2522
01:22:02,927 --> 01:22:03,927
and I really think that
2523
01:22:03,928 --> 01:22:05,126
craigslist should have more
2524
01:22:05,127 --> 01:22:07,293
people monitoring these sites,
2525
01:22:07,294 --> 01:22:08,294
and they need to be held
2526
01:22:08,294 --> 01:22:09,794
accountable.
2527
01:22:09,795 --> 01:22:10,728
Craigslist has
2528
01:22:10,729 --> 01:22:11,927
twice shut down its adult
2529
01:22:11,928 --> 01:22:13,662
content pages and tightened
2530
01:22:13,663 --> 01:22:15,194
its regulations.
2531
01:22:15,195 --> 01:22:16,162
But even in the new
2532
01:22:16,163 --> 01:22:17,662
"casual encounters" section,
2533
01:22:17,663 --> 01:22:18,995
there is not much doubt about
2534
01:22:18,996 --> 01:22:25,062
the nature of some of the ads.
2535
01:22:25,063 --> 01:22:26,529
Lorraine Ela is determined
2536
01:22:26,530 --> 01:22:27,663
to warn others
2537
01:22:27,664 --> 01:22:29,162
about the way ordinary American
2538
01:22:29,163 --> 01:22:30,829
girls get recruited for
2539
01:22:30,830 --> 01:22:32,796
the sex trade.
2540
01:22:32,797 --> 01:22:34,996
They target certain people.
2541
01:22:34,997 --> 01:22:36,196
And my daughter, being
2542
01:22:36,197 --> 01:22:38,996
softhearted, friendly, outgoing,
2543
01:22:38,997 --> 01:22:41,464
that's what these men look for.
2544
01:22:41,465 --> 01:22:45,630
He goes after the weak ones.
2545
01:22:45,631 --> 01:22:47,997
And my daughter was one of them.
2546
01:22:47,998 --> 01:22:48,865
Melissa Cann
2547
01:22:48,866 --> 01:22:50,797
recently found an ad her sister
2548
01:22:50,798 --> 01:22:52,498
Maureen posted on a website
2549
01:22:52,499 --> 01:22:54,498
called sexy jobs.
2550
01:22:54,499 --> 01:22:56,465
She believes this was the start
2551
01:22:56,466 --> 01:22:57,731
of the road that led Maureen
2552
01:22:57,732 --> 01:22:59,765
to escorting.
2553
01:22:59,766 --> 01:23:00,831
You know how they always say
2554
01:23:00,832 --> 01:23:02,465
weed is the gateway drug
2555
01:23:02,466 --> 01:23:04,831
to cocaine or heroin.
2556
01:23:04,832 --> 01:23:06,466
This is considered the gateway
2557
01:23:06,467 --> 01:23:08,832
drug of the sex industry.
2558
01:23:08,833 --> 01:23:10,466
They post theirselves up on
2559
01:23:10,467 --> 01:23:14,632
there for, like, phone sex jobs
2560
01:23:14,633 --> 01:23:16,832
or stripping or, you know,
2561
01:23:16,833 --> 01:23:18,232
modeling, nude modeling.
2562
01:23:18,233 --> 01:23:19,832
So it's legit.
2563
01:23:19,833 --> 01:23:22,199
But this is how some girls
2564
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,467
get found by, you know,
2565
01:23:24,468 --> 01:23:26,667
escort agencies.
2566
01:23:26,668 --> 01:23:27,733
Her brother, will,
2567
01:23:27,734 --> 01:23:28,933
never stopped searching
2568
01:23:28,934 --> 01:23:30,468
for Maureen.
2569
01:23:30,469 --> 01:23:31,833
He died in a motorcycle accident
2570
01:23:31,834 --> 01:23:34,601
two years after she disappeared.
2571
01:23:34,602 --> 01:23:35,701
The other mothers have become
2572
01:23:35,702 --> 01:23:38,734
Melissa's surrogate family.
2573
01:23:38,735 --> 01:23:40,333
I'm very, very fortunate
2574
01:23:40,334 --> 01:23:41,701
to ever have met them,
2575
01:23:41,702 --> 01:23:44,335
ever to know them.
2576
01:23:52,736 --> 01:23:53,603
Shannan's mother
2577
01:23:53,604 --> 01:23:55,869
is still out there looking.
2578
01:23:55,870 --> 01:23:57,335
The mystery of her daughter's
2579
01:23:57,336 --> 01:24:01,869
disappearance is still unsolved.
2580
01:24:01,870 --> 01:24:03,470
I don't believe that I'll
2581
01:24:03,471 --> 01:24:07,670
find her alive.
2582
01:24:07,671 --> 01:24:10,070
But it's okay,
2583
01:24:10,071 --> 01:24:12,670
because she's still always
2584
01:24:12,671 --> 01:24:14,870
gonna be with me every day.
2585
01:24:14,871 --> 01:24:18,471
And no matter how long it takes
2586
01:24:18,472 --> 01:24:19,871
and no matter how many times
2587
01:24:19,872 --> 01:24:23,671
I need to come here,
2588
01:24:23,672 --> 01:24:25,705
I'm gonna bring her home.
2589
01:24:32,338 --> 01:24:33,738
As for the killer,
2590
01:24:33,739 --> 01:24:35,472
police have received over 1,200
2591
01:24:35,473 --> 01:24:37,839
tips suggesting his identity.
2592
01:24:41,873 --> 01:24:43,473
One given to the Barthelemy
2593
01:24:43,474 --> 01:24:45,205
family's lawyer was from
2594
01:24:45,206 --> 01:24:46,173
a woman who believed it was
2595
01:24:46,174 --> 01:24:48,873
her former husband.
2596
01:24:48,874 --> 01:24:52,873
One tip stands out.
2597
01:24:52,874 --> 01:24:55,306
It talks about a man who is
2598
01:24:55,307 --> 01:25:00,074
involved in the technical world.
2599
01:25:00,075 --> 01:25:05,174
He's got an elaborate basement.
2600
01:25:05,175 --> 01:25:08,340
He has an ex-wife who described
2601
01:25:08,341 --> 01:25:11,675
him as being mysteriously absent
2602
01:25:11,676 --> 01:25:13,274
during the periods of times
2603
01:25:13,275 --> 01:25:17,476
that these girls were abducted.
2604
01:25:17,477 --> 01:25:19,108
And I'm hopeful that it will
2605
01:25:19,109 --> 01:25:20,709
lead to an arrest
2606
01:25:20,710 --> 01:25:22,141
and a conviction
2607
01:25:22,142 --> 01:25:24,843
and a life sentence.
2608
01:25:27,110 --> 01:25:28,043
That information
2609
01:25:28,044 --> 01:25:29,043
has been passed on
2610
01:25:29,044 --> 01:25:30,376
to the police.
2611
01:25:30,377 --> 01:25:32,076
For now, the investigation
2612
01:25:32,077 --> 01:25:33,809
cannot rule out the possibility
2613
01:25:33,810 --> 01:25:36,477
that they will find more bodies
2614
01:25:36,478 --> 01:25:37,977
or that the killer
2615
01:25:37,978 --> 01:25:41,177
will kill again.
2616
01:25:41,178 --> 01:25:42,377
Any time there's a serial
2617
01:25:42,378 --> 01:25:46,578
killer loose, that's a concern.
2618
01:25:46,579 --> 01:25:47,877
We believe that killer
2619
01:25:47,878 --> 01:25:50,478
made a mistake at some point.
2620
01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:53,512
We have to find that mistake.
2621
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:57,811
I would also like to say
2622
01:25:57,812 --> 01:25:59,978
to the women in the sex business
2623
01:25:59,979 --> 01:26:02,345
to be careful in their contacts.
2624
01:26:09,513 --> 01:26:10,579
Let me give the advice to you
2625
01:26:10,580 --> 01:26:11,779
that was given to me
2626
01:26:11,780 --> 01:26:13,179
that I never took heed of:
2627
01:26:13,180 --> 01:26:14,179
When you go too fast
2628
01:26:14,180 --> 01:26:15,179
and you get to the top,
2629
01:26:15,180 --> 01:26:16,580
there's nowhere to go but down,
2630
01:26:16,581 --> 01:26:18,947
one way or the other.
2631
01:26:27,881 --> 01:26:29,280
When you're making that money
2632
01:26:29,281 --> 01:26:32,280
and you're hustling these guys
2633
01:26:32,281 --> 01:26:34,481
and, you know, you're thinking
2634
01:26:34,482 --> 01:26:35,481
that you're living on top
2635
01:26:35,482 --> 01:26:37,281
of the world, you just need
2636
01:26:37,282 --> 01:26:39,381
to stop and think, "well,
2637
01:26:39,382 --> 01:26:42,214
what's after the top?"
2638
01:26:42,215 --> 01:26:43,214
We just went through life
2639
01:26:43,215 --> 01:26:44,582
carefree.
2640
01:26:44,583 --> 01:26:45,782
If any damage was gonna be done,
2641
01:26:45,783 --> 01:26:47,182
it was gonna be from us,
2642
01:26:47,183 --> 01:26:49,848
and it doesn't work like that.
2643
01:26:49,849 --> 01:26:51,483
It just doesn't.
2644
01:26:51,484 --> 01:26:54,483
Not for me, not for her.
2645
01:26:54,484 --> 01:26:56,884
Not for you.
2646
01:27:05,284 --> 01:27:06,684
I'm not ever gonna say,
2647
01:27:06,685 --> 01:27:09,884
"no, I won't work."
2648
01:27:09,885 --> 01:27:11,083
From time to time, I always put
2649
01:27:11,084 --> 01:27:12,684
ads up just to see what bites,
2650
01:27:12,685 --> 01:27:14,084
as far as my sister's killer
2651
01:27:14,085 --> 01:27:18,250
goes.
2652
01:27:18,251 --> 01:27:22,284
It'll intrigue him.
2653
01:27:22,285 --> 01:27:26,886
And that's what I'm hoping I do,
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