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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,580 --> 00:00:08,360 Stand-by, 2. 2 00:00:08,460 --> 00:00:10,160 Mix through, and cue on 2. 3 00:00:10,260 --> 00:00:14,340 The BBC's announced the appointment of ex-head of Olympic deliverance, 4 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,580 Ian Fletcher, as its new Head Of Values. 5 00:00:22,020 --> 00:00:24,180 Time now for the shipping forecast. 6 00:00:26,460 --> 00:00:29,590 Superimpose. 7 00:00:35,220 --> 00:00:37,760 Sure, OK, I get that. I still get it. No, shut up. 8 00:00:37,860 --> 00:00:40,440 Monday morning at the BBC's London headquarters, 9 00:00:40,540 --> 00:00:43,500 New Broadcasting House. And already things are happening. 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,440 ..what we do here, OK... No, shut up. 11 00:00:45,540 --> 00:00:47,600 What we do is we go straight to Tamsin at IBS. 12 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:49,860 OK, yeah, Tasmin, whatever. Like, she's the only one 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,000 who knows what's happening. 14 00:00:51,100 --> 00:00:52,880 Like, the others are all gap year, whatever. 15 00:00:52,980 --> 00:00:56,020 So potentially serious are things that Head of BBC Brand, 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,340 Siobhan Sharpe, from communications giant FUN Media, 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:01,640 is on her way in physically and at speed. 18 00:01:01,740 --> 00:01:05,220 Yeah, OK, so, what SHE does is she gets Claudia to tweet a denial. 19 00:01:05,320 --> 00:01:08,420 Like, NOW. OK? Like, "Strictly is my life," whatever. 20 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:09,960 And we retweet the shit out of it, 21 00:01:10,060 --> 00:01:12,730 like, we totally take out social media from the air, OK? 22 00:01:12,830 --> 00:01:15,500 OK, no, shut up, I've got her. I've got Tamsin coming at me. 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,140 Yeah, Tasmin, yeah, whatever. OK, yeah, I've got to go. 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,480 Got to go, OK, OK. Bye. 25 00:01:20,580 --> 00:01:22,690 Yeah. Hey, Tam-smin, how are you? 26 00:01:22,790 --> 00:01:24,800 Good, yeah, I'm good, thanks. 27 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:26,920 So, according to the BBC News app... 28 00:01:27,020 --> 00:01:29,720 Don't blame me, OK? No, I'm not, Neil, I'm just saying. 29 00:01:29,820 --> 00:01:33,220 Apparently, they're offering her a deal worth BLEEP million pounds 30 00:01:33,320 --> 00:01:35,720 over two years. No, I'm sorry. Thr... BLEEP million pounds? 31 00:01:35,820 --> 00:01:38,120 The fact is that cannot happen. That's what it says here. 32 00:01:38,220 --> 00:01:41,080 No, I'm sorry. We're stuffed, then. Meanwhile, upstairs, 33 00:01:41,180 --> 00:01:43,900 what was supposed to be a Renewal meeting mainly about something 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,720 called "distinctivity" has spontaneously turned into 35 00:01:46,820 --> 00:01:49,730 an emergency damage limitation meeting, mostly about disaster. 36 00:01:49,830 --> 00:01:52,740 Yes, apparently, it's a circus-based show they're talking about. 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,300 Circus-based? Apparently, they're rebooting 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,080 the Cirque de Celebrity format. 39 00:01:57,180 --> 00:01:59,560 No, sure. Right. Honestly. No, I'm sorry. 40 00:01:59,660 --> 00:02:02,700 I mean, what is it with shows in fucking tents? Well, yes. 41 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,720 Rumours have surfaced on Twitter 42 00:02:04,820 --> 00:02:07,590 that one of the BBC's biggest faces and co-host 43 00:02:07,690 --> 00:02:10,360 of Strictly Come Dancing, Claudia Winkleman, 44 00:02:10,460 --> 00:02:13,560 could be on the point of leaving the BBC after being approached 45 00:02:13,660 --> 00:02:17,500 by rival broadcaster Sk... BLEEP..y to host a rival show of their own. 46 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,780 So, I'm on the Mail Online here, OK? 47 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Right. Blimey. I know. 48 00:02:21,780 --> 00:02:24,480 Anyway, apparently, a source close to Tess Daly is saying that 49 00:02:24,580 --> 00:02:27,700 if Claudia leaves Strictly, then Tess will go, too, out of loyalty. 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,740 Right. - OK, no. OK. I'm sorry. Loyalty to what, Lucy? 51 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,780 That can't happen. I don't know, it doesn't say. Brilliant. 52 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:35,960 I'm not being negative or anything but we are in 53 00:02:36,060 --> 00:02:39,020 a very dark place here, guys. Brilliant. No, I'm sorry, no. 54 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,640 With Charter Renewal pending, 55 00:02:40,740 --> 00:02:44,030 this is the worst possible time to be facing the prospect 56 00:02:44,130 --> 00:02:47,320 of a BBC devoid of competitive celebrity dancing of any kind. 57 00:02:47,420 --> 00:02:51,180 OK, well, look, the key thing is that everybody remains calm, and... 58 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:54,880 OK. So, hey, guys. Ah, right, Siobhan. OK, let's do this, OK? 59 00:02:54,980 --> 00:02:58,010 Yes. Let's nail this beaver to the tree. 60 00:02:58,110 --> 00:03:01,140 Chronologically, Siobhan may have arrived late to the meeting but, in other ways, 61 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,300 she's already ahead of both herself and everybody else. 62 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,060 OK, so, I spoke with Claudia's agent. Right. Brilliant. 63 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,720 So, here's the thing with this, here's what it is, OK? 64 00:03:09,820 --> 00:03:13,300 So, Claudia loves Strictly, she loves the BBC, whatever. Hurrah. 65 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,040 Yes, exactly. But the thing with Claudia is that she wants, 66 00:03:16,140 --> 00:03:20,540 like, a change of direction at this point in her bla-di-blah, whatever. 67 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:22,800 Right. A change of... No, still me. Right. Yes. 68 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:26,900 So, Claudia's like, um, "I want to do serious shit." 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,160 You know, like people dying, whatever. 70 00:03:29,260 --> 00:03:32,100 And Sk... BLEEP..y are, like, "You know, that's cool, you can 71 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,760 "totally do that as well. 72 00:03:33,860 --> 00:03:35,960 "Like, you can do whatever you want plus 73 00:03:36,060 --> 00:03:38,820 "we'll pay you like a sh... BLEEP load of money at the same time." 74 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,480 So, when... So, she's like, "OK, I need headspace here. 75 00:03:41,580 --> 00:03:44,140 "Like, I need to be in Cornwall," whatever. Right. Brilliant. 76 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,420 So, the headline is Claudia's in Cornwall at the moment 77 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,960 thinking it over? Excuse me? Right, OK... 78 00:03:49,060 --> 00:03:54,640 OK, the headline, OK, is "Claudia Winkleman leaves Strictly." OK? 79 00:03:54,740 --> 00:03:57,740 We've pretty much crashed the BBC. No, I'm sorry. Well, that's one way 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,120 of looking at it, obviously. It totally is. OK, but... 81 00:04:00,220 --> 00:04:02,500 You're going to say something brilliant now, aren't you? 82 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,320 Yes. No. No, you are, I can feel it in my bones. 83 00:04:04,420 --> 00:04:06,900 No, but before we get locked into the idea of this being some 84 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 kind of problem, is it worth stepping back 85 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:12,100 and looking at the positives for a moment? Really? The positives? Yes. 86 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,460 And yet. Blimey. I mean, for one thing, it looks as though 87 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,820 this might not actually be about money. Well, that's handy 88 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,860 cos we haven't got any money. Well, exactly. 89 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:20,320 So, that's a good fit straight away. 90 00:04:20,420 --> 00:04:23,040 As Head Of Values and chair of the Renewal Group, 91 00:04:23,140 --> 00:04:25,780 the ability to think the sort of thoughts under pressure that 92 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:27,760 no-one else would even think of thinking is 93 00:04:27,860 --> 00:04:30,440 one of Ian Fletcher's distinguishing characteristics. 94 00:04:30,540 --> 00:04:33,120 And we know she's at a point where she's looking for a change 95 00:04:33,220 --> 00:04:36,300 of direction, maybe perhaps to be taken a bit more seriously. Sure. 96 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,480 But, if you think about what we were supposed to be 97 00:04:38,580 --> 00:04:42,100 talking about this morning... Right. Yes. No, sure. Brilliant. 98 00:04:43,460 --> 00:04:46,860 Just remind me? The distinctivity audit. Oh, yeah, great. 99 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:48,840 As part of the Charter Renewal process, 100 00:04:48,940 --> 00:04:52,030 the BBC has been invited to spend time conducting a special 101 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:55,220 distinctivity audit of all the ways in which its output is 102 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,240 different from anything else you've ever seen. 103 00:04:57,340 --> 00:04:59,820 It's a question of identifying anything we might have 104 00:04:59,920 --> 00:05:02,240 in development that's uniquely BBC, which is 105 00:05:02,340 --> 00:05:05,570 why I asked Matt to join us here for this, as Head Of Output. 106 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:09,115 Yeah, no, sure. Hey, guys. Yeah. But what if what Claudia wants 107 00:05:09,215 --> 00:05:12,660 and what we're looking for turn out to be exactly the same thing? 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,200 Blimey. Sure. No, I get that. That could work. 109 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:18,770 Cos if we are looking at a solution and not a problem here, 110 00:05:18,870 --> 00:05:21,340 we could be looking at a solution of truly epic proportions. 111 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,080 No, really, Ian, don't take this the wrong way 112 00:05:23,180 --> 00:05:26,420 but this is where we all kind of want to hug you. Sure. Well... No. 113 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,820 You the man. Yes, exactly. No, really. Just to say 114 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,700 you're safe with me, OK? Yes, good. 115 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:35,400 Meanwhile, elsewhere in the building, 116 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:39,100 development executive Izzy Gould is busy thinking about ideas. Hi. 117 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,900 Oh, hi, how are you? So, have you seen this? No, what? 118 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,320 No, I thought not. 119 00:05:43,420 --> 00:05:45,280 But although she may not know it yet 120 00:05:45,380 --> 00:05:47,660 she's about to realise that she may well be involved 121 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,820 in enough developments already for the moment. 122 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,200 Oh, Jesus, no. Yeah. When did this...? 123 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:55,780 I don't know, I just saw it now. No! It's already trending. Shit! 124 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,320 It's not good news. 125 00:05:57,420 --> 00:06:00,350 After Hugh Grant was asked for a selfie on a recent visit to 126 00:06:00,450 --> 00:06:03,605 New Broadcasting House, his people have decided to become 127 00:06:03,705 --> 00:06:06,860 incensed that he was misled into endorsing an online campaign 128 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,480 for a BBC product when he thought he was just giving 129 00:06:09,580 --> 00:06:12,190 a selfie to a slightly unusual but apparently harmless intern. 130 00:06:12,290 --> 00:06:14,905 OK, so, first of all, it's nothing to do with me, OK? What? 131 00:06:15,005 --> 00:06:17,620 Like, it wasn't my idea. No, I know it wasn't... But also... 132 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,160 It was mine! No. It was my idea. 133 00:06:19,260 --> 00:06:21,470 No, I knew you'd say that, that's why I came up here. 134 00:06:21,570 --> 00:06:23,680 In the circumstances, they're demanding not only that his 135 00:06:23,780 --> 00:06:28,550 image be immediately removed from the campaign, but that the BBC make 136 00:06:28,650 --> 00:06:33,420 a charitable donation of £1,475,000 to the Worldwide Wildlife Fund. 137 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,400 A pound for every YouTube hit so far. OK, OK... 138 00:06:36,500 --> 00:06:39,700 OK, so this is really serious, OK? I know! Like, it's really serious. 139 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,980 I know it is! OK, but it isn't your fault. What do you mean, 140 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:43,680 it wasn't my fault? Of course it's my fault. 141 00:06:43,780 --> 00:06:46,420 OK, you're panicking. I'm not panicking. Of course I'm panicking. 142 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:48,360 Whose idea was it... 143 00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:50,900 to ask Hugh Grant for a selfie? 144 00:06:52,820 --> 00:06:56,420 OK, no. Was it your idea? No, I'm sorry, I'm not doing that. You can. 145 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,260 You absolutely have to. I'm not, I can't! I can't do that. 146 00:07:02,420 --> 00:07:04,640 I mean, basically, what we're talking about is 147 00:07:04,740 --> 00:07:07,900 the sort of programmes you wouldn't see other broadcasters making. Yeah. 148 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,380 Exactly. Really? The sort of thing no-one's going to watch. 149 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:12,860 No, I'm talking about the sort of thing only the BBC can do. 150 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,100 Yeah, that's what I just said, isn't it? Very good. 151 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:16,200 Back in Renewal, 152 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:19,930 it's becoming clear that coming up with a list of distinctively BBC 153 00:07:20,030 --> 00:07:23,660 projects currently in development might not be as easy as it sounds. 154 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,060 Sorry, what's this? Right, OK, Simon, do you want to...? 155 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:29,360 Oh, yes, no, sorry, Lucy, sorry, Ian, brilliant, 156 00:07:29,460 --> 00:07:32,770 it's just a card for Ben and Jerry, that's all. Right. A leaving card? 157 00:07:32,870 --> 00:07:36,095 Yes. Right. Oh, I know. Who knew they weren't here? Brilliant. Who? 158 00:07:36,195 --> 00:07:39,420 Obviously I've no idea how these things work, but what's happened... 159 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,760 In the meantime, it seems that after interviewing 160 00:07:41,860 --> 00:07:45,380 both Ben and Jerry for a new single post, it's been decided that, 161 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,380 in the spirit of more of less, the new post itself is to be 162 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,540 reimagined as not existing going forward. 163 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,600 ..reimagined as not existing, going forward. 164 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:55,740 "Reimagined as not existing?" Exactly. It's terribly bad luck. 165 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,220 If it's any help, Lucy, I didn't know what to put, 166 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,080 so in the end I put best of luck, guys. 167 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:02,660 I don't know if that helps. Yes, I'm not sure. No, probably not. 168 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,300 Right, OK, well. Yes, so, anyway. Yes, exactly, yes. 169 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,080 More of less issues aside, 170 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:10,280 Ian's challenge now is to marshal his remaining troops towards 171 00:08:10,380 --> 00:08:14,360 an outcome that could just solve the BBC's distinctivity issues and 172 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:19,140 its Claudia Winkleman problem in one joint solution to end all solutions. 173 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,780 So, yes, I mean, have we actually GOT anything in development? 174 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:23,600 Yes, exactly, have we actually got anything? 175 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:26,480 Yeah, sure that's great. So, I guess, something to think about it 176 00:08:26,580 --> 00:08:29,980 at this point, I mean, I don't know, I may be wrong about this is genre. 177 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,460 Right. Brilliant. Genre? I'm just putting it out there. Yes. 178 00:08:32,560 --> 00:08:35,260 So, I guess what I'm asking, is it worth thinking, you know, 179 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,960 what area are we in here? Drama, factual, scripted...? Yes. 180 00:08:38,060 --> 00:08:41,300 Also just in terms of reach, is it...? OK, OK. I'm so bored of this. 181 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,060 Bored? Yeah, like hashtag - face down in my soup. Well... 182 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,940 So, like, here's the thing with this, OK? 183 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:47,720 So, like, this is not a safety drill, OK? 184 00:08:47,820 --> 00:08:50,200 The engines are like, totally on fire here. Brilliant. 185 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:53,210 No, I'm sorry. Yes. The cabin just filled with smoke. No, not that. 186 00:08:53,310 --> 00:08:56,495 OK, so what you need to do is you guys need to get into a BBC taxi 187 00:08:56,595 --> 00:08:59,780 to Cornwall like, now, and you need to lovebomb Claudia to death. 188 00:08:59,880 --> 00:09:02,160 Well, that's... A BBC taxi to Cornwall? 189 00:09:02,260 --> 00:09:04,760 Sure, or else you guys are flying a stone turkey one way 190 00:09:04,860 --> 00:09:08,120 to oblivionsville here. Right. Yes, no, brilliant, very clear. 191 00:09:08,220 --> 00:09:12,820 It's March, and light returns to the high Arctic, 192 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,820 sweeping away four months of darkness. 193 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,600 A polar bear stirs. 194 00:09:19,700 --> 00:09:22,140 She has been in her den the whole winter. 195 00:09:23,420 --> 00:09:26,780 Her emergence marks the beginning of spring. 196 00:09:29,540 --> 00:09:32,680 After months of confinement underground, she toboggans 197 00:09:32,780 --> 00:09:39,220 down the slope, perhaps to clean her fur, perhaps for sheer joy. 198 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:40,780 Whoa. 199 00:09:42,060 --> 00:09:45,020 Will... Her cubs gaze out at their bright new world 200 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,380 for the very first time. Will. Hey, hey, Izzy. 201 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,640 Yeah, how are you? I'm good, thanks. I'm good. 202 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:54,360 Cool. Yeah, so I'm watching this for Ian Fletcher. Yes. 203 00:09:54,460 --> 00:09:57,260 Yeah, pretty cool. Yes. David Attenborough's such a cool guy. 204 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,700 Yes, he is, yes. I don't want to bother you... 205 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:01,960 No worries, yeah, cool. But I just... 206 00:10:02,060 --> 00:10:05,590 With the whole super selfie thing... Yeah, I know, mental. Well, no... 207 00:10:05,690 --> 00:10:09,405 I don't know, like, a million hits. I didn't even know who he was. No. 208 00:10:09,505 --> 00:10:13,220 But when you spoke to him, when you actually asked him to say "Me"... 209 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,540 Yeah? Did you tell him what it was for? 210 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:22,700 Yeah, I don't know. I definitely told him it was for you. 211 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,940 For me? Yeah. 212 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:29,580 OK, that's great, Will, thanks. OK, cool. 213 00:10:31,780 --> 00:10:35,130 Yeah, so, people think polar bears can't smell underwater. 214 00:10:35,230 --> 00:10:38,580 It's, like no, they totally can. Yes. There's this bit... 215 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:40,760 Actually, Will, I'd better get off. OK. 216 00:10:40,860 --> 00:10:43,260 But, thanks, that's been really helpful. No worries. 217 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,780 Yeah, no worries, yeah. Cool. 218 00:11:22,980 --> 00:11:25,540 OK, what about, and stay with me on this, OK, guys, but what about 219 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,600 Claudia Winkleman's History Of The Elephant. Right. 220 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:30,580 History of the elephant? I know what you're thinking, a bit left-field. 221 00:11:30,680 --> 00:11:31,600 That is what I was thinking. 222 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:33,520 Meanwhile, it's tomorrow morning, 223 00:11:33,620 --> 00:11:36,150 and Head Of Output Matt Taverner has gathered together 224 00:11:36,250 --> 00:11:38,680 some of his finest brains for an important meeting. 225 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:41,390 But, also, it's like, a dead serious subject for Claudia... Sure. 226 00:11:41,490 --> 00:11:44,100 Cos they have, like, their own funerals and everything, you know? 227 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,420 Sure, that's great. I get where you're coming from 228 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,520 with the History Of thing. But I don't know. 229 00:11:48,620 --> 00:11:51,610 I guess what I'm asking... I guess... Part of my job is to... 230 00:11:51,710 --> 00:11:54,700 Their mission is to come up with programme ideas 231 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:56,640 that might address Claudia Winkleman's need 232 00:11:56,740 --> 00:11:59,630 to be taken more seriously whilst also addressing the BBC's 233 00:11:59,730 --> 00:12:02,565 distinctivity and Charter Renewal issues in one fell swoop. 234 00:12:02,665 --> 00:12:05,892 Or is there something out there that might give us distinctive 235 00:12:05,992 --> 00:12:09,220 and serious and, I don't know, quirky and Hinterland in one hit... 236 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:10,800 Yes...where the idea of BBCness 237 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:13,580 is kind of a cold open and a leave behind at the same time? 238 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:14,880 Right. Yes. Yes. Do you know what, 239 00:12:14,980 --> 00:12:16,660 Matt, that's really interesting, Matt. 240 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,400 What about, is there something...? 241 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:20,990 OK. Claudia Winkleman's History Of Water. OK. Water? 242 00:12:21,090 --> 00:12:23,480 I don't know, it's like more BBC somehow. No, sure. 243 00:12:23,580 --> 00:12:25,990 I don't know, do you not think it's a bit dry for Claudia? Dry? 244 00:12:26,090 --> 00:12:28,500 Sure. She's so gorgeous. The History Of Water? Well, no, yes, 245 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,600 I see what you're saying. OK, so maybe we should... 246 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:32,600 Claudia Winkleman's History Of Fruit. Yeah. No, OK. 247 00:12:32,700 --> 00:12:34,980 We should go past the whole History Of thing. Yeah. Yes. 248 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:37,940 OK, well, if it's BBCness we're talking about, 249 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,800 then what about On Your Bike, then? 250 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:43,660 Ooh, now. OK. On Your Bike? Yes. You're joking. 251 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,280 In its original format, I mean. Sure. 252 00:12:45,380 --> 00:12:48,900 You know, as a serious, proper chat show for Claudia but, just, 253 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:50,240 you know, on wheels. No, sure. 254 00:12:50,340 --> 00:12:53,820 Cos the thing about that was, like I kept trying to say, 255 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,140 was it's so BBC. Genius. I don't believe this. 256 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,080 Really interesting. My God, Izzy. 257 00:12:58,180 --> 00:13:00,020 Yeah, no, sure, Izzy, that's great. 258 00:13:16,460 --> 00:13:18,940 It's the end of the day, and a number of people 259 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,740 are already gathering in the shared experience space 260 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,940 for a special ceremony to celebrate the end 261 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:25,680 of Ben and Jerry's time at the BBC. 262 00:13:25,780 --> 00:13:29,500 I'm not being funny or anything but I can't be doing with goodbyes. No. 263 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,720 No. No. Maybe it's my childhood or something, 264 00:13:31,820 --> 00:13:33,840 but they always end up getting to me in the end. 265 00:13:33,940 --> 00:13:36,580 Yes, no, very good, Tracey. They've been with the BBC 266 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:38,940 from their arrival as junior research executives 267 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,300 all the way through to their departure as people 268 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:42,880 whose jobs no longer exist. 269 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:45,620 So it's appropriate that a block of an entire hour has been booked 270 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,000 out on the Syncopati space booking system 271 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:50,460 in order to speed them on their way. Yes, anyway, is someone 272 00:13:50,560 --> 00:13:52,320 going to say something? Yes, sorry, about what? 273 00:13:52,420 --> 00:13:55,220 About Ben and Jerry? Oh, yes, of course. That's brilliant. No, no... 274 00:13:55,320 --> 00:13:57,780 Now, listen, you'll know how you want to deal with it... 275 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,300 No, I wasn't... Yes, exactly. But the good news is 276 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,840 we've got them these as a surprise. 277 00:14:01,940 --> 00:14:04,490 Right, what are they? It's interesting, isn't it? 278 00:14:04,590 --> 00:14:07,040 We don't even know what we've got them? I mean, 279 00:14:07,140 --> 00:14:09,740 I've no idea how these things work, but I suppose that's part 280 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,080 of the surprise, is it? Yes, probably. Genius. 281 00:14:12,180 --> 00:14:14,320 Ben and Jerry's unexpected departure 282 00:14:14,420 --> 00:14:17,940 may herald the dawn of a new more of less era for the BBC, 283 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,420 even though no-one really knows what that means. 284 00:14:21,580 --> 00:14:24,120 But if there's a new feeling of uncertainty in the air, 285 00:14:24,220 --> 00:14:27,100 it seems that Lucy has decided that she might as well after all 286 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,720 apply for the new post of Head Of Empowerment, even though 287 00:14:29,820 --> 00:14:32,510 no-one really knows what that means either. I won't get it, obviously. 288 00:14:32,610 --> 00:14:35,185 No, it's really good. Is it? I don't know. I was going to ask you, 289 00:14:35,285 --> 00:14:37,742 though I probably shouldn't be asking you this, but do you know 290 00:14:37,842 --> 00:14:40,300 if Anna's on the panel? Anna? It's fine if you don't want to... 291 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,200 No, no, it's fine. I don't think she is, no. Right. 292 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:45,060 I mean, nobody tells me anything, obviously, but, as far as I'm aware, 293 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,520 she's not, no. Right. You're not on it? Me? No. 294 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:50,460 Cos, I mean, right... Thank God! Yes. Anyway, if I was, I suppose 295 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,500 I'd have to declare an interest, wouldn't I? 296 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,980 Right. I mean... Yes. No, yes. Yes. 297 00:14:56,300 --> 00:15:00,060 OK. OK, thank you. Thank you. 298 00:15:01,340 --> 00:15:02,880 Brilliant. Yes, no, very good. 299 00:15:02,980 --> 00:15:07,340 Who was it who said life is a series of letting go? Anyway... 300 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:08,760 Do you know what, Simon, I want to 301 00:15:08,860 --> 00:15:10,680 say Elton John. Brilliant. Elton John? 302 00:15:10,780 --> 00:15:13,480 What do I know? But, no, a moment to say a few words about 303 00:15:13,580 --> 00:15:16,900 why we're all here, of course, and not just any old words, either. 304 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,120 Ladies and gentlemen, current Head Of Values 305 00:15:19,220 --> 00:15:22,700 and all-round Captain Renewal himself, Ian Fletcher. 306 00:15:26,540 --> 00:15:30,580 Right, yes. I mean, thanks, Simon. Hurrah. So, yes... 307 00:15:31,820 --> 00:15:34,380 As Simon very much says, here we are. Hurrah. 308 00:15:35,540 --> 00:15:38,710 So, what to say about Ben and Jerry that hasn't been said before? 309 00:15:38,810 --> 00:15:41,980 I might as well be honest and confess that when I first arrived, 310 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:43,840 a bit like with Ant and Dec, 311 00:15:43,940 --> 00:15:46,980 I wasn't completely confident about which one was which. 312 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,240 Shame. Shame. Brilliant. 313 00:15:48,340 --> 00:15:50,600 But it didn't take me long to realise that, 314 00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:54,030 just like with Ant and Dec, it doesn't actually matter. Hurrah. 315 00:15:54,130 --> 00:15:57,460 In the end, that's not the point. The point is they both share 316 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:58,960 the ability to make whatever 317 00:15:59,060 --> 00:16:02,320 it is they do look genuinely easy whilst at the same time making 318 00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:05,860 everyone around them look better than they would have done otherwise. 319 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,860 Yes. And that's a very rare quality to have. Yes, it is. 320 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,420 And, with that in mind, we've got you these, 321 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,360 just as a token really, of... 322 00:16:13,460 --> 00:16:16,300 Well, really of everything we feel and have felt about you 323 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,820 in the past and will continue to feel, of course, 324 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:21,340 in the future, as you seek out different challenges 325 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,700 in new places with very different outcomes. 326 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Brilliant. Yes, no, very good. 327 00:16:25,420 --> 00:16:29,460 So I'd ask us all to join me in raising a toast to Ben and Jerry. 328 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:33,340 Ben and Jerry. To moving onwards. - Moving onwards. 329 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,420 Brilliant. So, that's all good. 330 00:17:05,220 --> 00:17:07,980 It's another day at New Broadcasting House, 331 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,380 but not just any other day. 332 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:10,480 Claudia! Oh, hi. 333 00:17:10,580 --> 00:17:14,380 Today is Winkleman day. Claudia, Claudia, Claudia. 334 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,540 What can I say? Welcome to the pleasure dome. 335 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,040 After wide-ranging discussions between her agent 336 00:17:19,140 --> 00:17:21,440 and the BBC, Claudia Winkleman has agreed to come in 337 00:17:21,540 --> 00:17:24,510 and talk about On Your Bike as a potential vehicle for her, 338 00:17:24,610 --> 00:17:27,580 and Simon Harwood himself is on hand in reception in order 339 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,480 to take her as seriously as possible. 340 00:17:29,580 --> 00:17:31,840 I'm so sorry, I'm really embarrassed about this, 341 00:17:31,940 --> 00:17:34,980 but I don't think I actually know your name. Oh, no, God! Sorry. 342 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,200 No, of course, yes, listen, why would you? I wouldn't be 343 00:17:37,300 --> 00:17:40,220 bothered with it myself if it wasn't for going to the doctors, and so on. 344 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,980 Right. Simon. Simon? Simon Harwood, Director Of... I don't know, 345 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,000 Strategic Governance or something like that. OK. 346 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:48,290 This is Tasmin. Hi. My agent. Yes, of course, welcome, Tasmin. Yes. 347 00:17:48,390 --> 00:17:51,580 Listen, I know we haven't met but, honestly, I feel like I want 348 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,500 to thank you for making our lives that much brighter with, 349 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,960 you know with... Yes. Thanks. So, shall we go up? 350 00:17:57,060 --> 00:17:59,460 Yes, of course, no, yes, very good. So, for what it's worth, 351 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,200 I suppose I'd better get you guys signed in. 352 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:04,260 So, we signed in. Right. Brilliant. Yes. I've done that. 353 00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:06,320 We were waiting to be collected. Ah! Fabulous. 354 00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:09,260 I tell you what, she's not your agent for nothing, Claudia, is she? 355 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:11,620 No. Shall we go through, straight through the doors? 356 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:13,980 So, buckle up, guys, we've got Claudia inbound. Right. 357 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:14,960 Where is everybody? Who? 358 00:18:15,060 --> 00:18:17,160 She's coming at us. Yes. I don't know. Where's Matt? 359 00:18:17,260 --> 00:18:19,800 Matt? Yes. Yes, no, I don't know. Meanwhile, upstairs, 360 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:23,350 preparations for the crucial meeting are taking some kind of shape. 361 00:18:23,450 --> 00:18:26,900 It's to be chaired by Head Of Output Matt Taverner, who isn't here. 362 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,040 Oh, my God. Right, OK. What? 363 00:18:29,140 --> 00:18:31,810 Have you not heard? Heard what? No. He's gone. Who has? 364 00:18:31,910 --> 00:18:34,480 No, shut up, David, please. Oh, my God. I don't know. 365 00:18:34,580 --> 00:18:37,920 With the winds of change blowing through the BBC, it looks as 366 00:18:38,020 --> 00:18:41,250 if one of the really big trees might have been blown over completely. 367 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:44,580 OK, so, guys, Matt Taverner is not going to be coming to the meeting, 368 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,460 I'm afraid. Right. He's gone. Yes. 369 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,240 Bummer. What do you mean, he's gone? 370 00:18:48,340 --> 00:18:51,300 I don't know. He's gone to Netflix. He's gone to Netflix, yes. No way! 371 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,740 What do you mean, he's gone to Netflix? What, for a meeting? 372 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,280 No, he's gone. Right, OK. Matt Taverner's gone Netflix! Cool. 373 00:18:56,380 --> 00:18:58,970 We're announcing it later this morning. It's, like, oh, my God! 374 00:18:59,070 --> 00:19:01,635 We LOVE Netflix. We've been given a statement to put out. I mean, 375 00:19:01,735 --> 00:19:04,300 do you know anything about this, Anna? This? Yes. When? What? No. 376 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,380 OK, where's Simon? I don't know. No, right. 377 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:11,740 You're mad. You're actually mad. It wasn't his fault. What? It was mine. 378 00:19:12,820 --> 00:19:13,960 What is it with him? 379 00:19:14,060 --> 00:19:16,280 Elsewhere in the building, Jack Patterson 380 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:19,480 and Izzy Gould have taken some time out to have an argument. 381 00:19:19,580 --> 00:19:22,380 It was my fault for not bringing him up to speed with all of the... 382 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:24,080 You know, all of the issues beforehand. 383 00:19:24,180 --> 00:19:26,820 There's no speed slow enough for that guy to be brought up to. 384 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,500 With the BBC facing a demand that it makes a £1.5 million 385 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,960 charitable donation to the Worldwide Wildlife Fund 386 00:19:33,060 --> 00:19:36,090 following its misuse of the film star Hugh Grant's image, 387 00:19:36,190 --> 00:19:39,120 Izzy has been asked to write a formal report on the incident 388 00:19:39,220 --> 00:19:42,070 for urgent submission to BBC director-general Tony Hall's office. 389 00:19:42,170 --> 00:19:45,020 OK, so I'm going to tell them, if you won't. No. I'm not going 390 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,140 to let you do this. This has nothing to do with you. 391 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,300 It has nothing to do with you, either. 392 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,460 It's too important, it's all wrong. 393 00:19:53,580 --> 00:19:57,090 But, meanwhile, at the same time, unbeknown to Izzy, Jack, 394 00:19:57,190 --> 00:20:00,700 or anyone else, Will Humphries is out on the streets of London 395 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,540 on a secret mission of his own. 396 00:20:12,820 --> 00:20:15,520 Using virtually all of his initiative, he's come to 397 00:20:15,620 --> 00:20:19,340 a small recording studio in Soho in pursuit of the kind of solution 398 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,500 to the Hugh Grant crisis that only he could have thought of. 399 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:27,650 'Yeah, hi?' Yeah, hi, yeah, it's Will Humphries? 'Right...' 400 00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:31,580 So, I'm personal assistant Ian Fletcher. 'Ian Fletcher?' 401 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,060 He's, like, Head Of Values at the BBC. 'OK.' 402 00:20:43,020 --> 00:20:45,800 Yeah, hi, yeah? Hiya, how can I help? Yeah. 403 00:20:45,900 --> 00:20:48,480 Can I speak to David Attenborough? David Attenborough? 404 00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:52,780 Yeah. Right. Yeah, cos he's doing, like, I don't know, recording stuff, 405 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,260 like, for Fragile Planet Earth. OK. Yeah, cos I found out. OK. 406 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,660 Do you want to take a seat? 407 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:01,060 OK, yeah, no worries. Cool. 408 00:21:23,940 --> 00:21:26,800 Here we go, here they are, The A-Team. Right. 409 00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:30,100 So, guys, look who I found in reception. Yes, exactly. Hi. 410 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,560 Meanwhile, back at New Broadcasting House, 411 00:21:32,660 --> 00:21:35,000 Simon has finally met and greeted Claudia Winkleman 412 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:37,370 all the way up to the sixth floor. No, but, listen, have fun 413 00:21:37,470 --> 00:21:39,740 and just remember that everything's possible in the best 414 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,560 of all possible worlds. Yes, exactly. Genius. 415 00:21:41,660 --> 00:21:45,530 OK, right. Good-oh. This is going to be so fun. Yes, Simon. Yes? 416 00:21:45,630 --> 00:21:48,895 With the introductions overdone, it's time for the serious 417 00:21:48,995 --> 00:21:52,160 business to begin, but Ian is becoming aware that the Claudia 418 00:21:52,260 --> 00:21:55,820 Winkleman issue may not be the only BBC story unfolding this morning. 419 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,440 What's happening? Yes, in terms of...? Matt Taverner not here. 420 00:21:58,540 --> 00:22:00,960 God, yes, no. Apparently, he's gone to Netflix. It's turning into 421 00:22:01,060 --> 00:22:03,860 one of those mornings, isn't it? How come everybody else seems to know 422 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,220 about this apart from me? Yes, no, very good. I tell you what, 423 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,480 why don't you just pop by when you've got a minute and maybe 424 00:22:08,580 --> 00:22:11,060 we can just...maybe we can just have a bit of a general catch-up. 425 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,220 Yes. Righty ho. Yes, good. 426 00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:19,950 Cos, in the end, and this is just a thought I had, OK, but, basically, 427 00:22:20,050 --> 00:22:24,260 imagine Carpool Karaoke but serious with no singing and on a bike. 428 00:22:24,360 --> 00:22:27,940 Right. Yes. We love serious. Yes, exactly. Genius. 429 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,680 At last, after all the build-up, 430 00:22:29,780 --> 00:22:31,520 Operation Winkleman's finally underway. 431 00:22:31,620 --> 00:22:33,900 No, I think in many ways I think it's a shame Izzy Gould 432 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,520 couldn't be with us this morning. Yes. 433 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:38,360 Because she's the one who developed this. Yes, no, lovely Izzy. 434 00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:41,350 In the unavoidable absence of Head Of Output Matt Taverner 435 00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:44,285 to make the pitch for On Your Bike as the perfect BBC vehicle 436 00:22:44,385 --> 00:22:47,112 for Claudia, and no shortage of others willing to step into 437 00:22:47,212 --> 00:22:49,940 his cleats and run with the idea, it's important that someone 438 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,080 takes control to steer the meeting onto solid ground. 439 00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:56,740 We've always looked on this as almost a classical BBC idea. Yes. 440 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,640 Sure. You know, going right back to informing, educating... 441 00:22:59,740 --> 00:23:02,540 No, sure, so that's when we had our Ulrika moment. Yes. Sorry? 442 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:03,680 No, I think... 443 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:06,850 Claudia would totally kill in, like, a chat show kind of vibe. OK. 444 00:23:06,950 --> 00:23:10,475 Like, she's basically Michael Palin in heels, right? Michael Palin? 445 00:23:10,575 --> 00:23:13,687 Yes. Stop it! Do you mean Michael Parkinson? Yes. No, sure, whatever. 446 00:23:13,787 --> 00:23:16,733 I mean, it's a no-brainer. So, just to save time, Claudia has actually 447 00:23:16,833 --> 00:23:19,780 read the treatment. Have you really, Claudia? Yes, I have. Yes. Genius. 448 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:21,940 Shall we just tell you what she likes about it and we can 449 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,900 start from there? Yes, I think that's a really... 450 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,660 Yes, exactly. No, sure, I'm good with that. 451 00:23:26,940 --> 00:23:28,800 Meanwhile, across town, 452 00:23:28,900 --> 00:23:31,220 Will's secret operation is still active. 453 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,240 Hi. Oh, yeah, yeah, hey, yeah. 454 00:23:33,340 --> 00:23:35,800 Hi, I'm Tony Dixon, producer of Fragile Planet Earth. 455 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:38,830 Yeah, I know, Fragile Planet Earth, yeah. The bonobos are mental. 456 00:23:38,930 --> 00:23:41,860 Yeah, cool. Yes, I gather you're wanting to speak to Sir David. 457 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,680 Yeah, cool, yeah, Sir David, yeah, cool. 458 00:23:43,780 --> 00:23:46,320 Yeah, can I ask, is this something he knows about? 459 00:23:46,420 --> 00:23:49,630 Sir David? Yeah. No. Right. No, cos that's why I need to see him. 460 00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:52,885 It's really important. Yeah. I mean, I don't want to disappoint you. 461 00:23:52,985 --> 00:23:56,140 No, me neither. But I've got to say, we're actually really busy today. 462 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:57,640 Yeah, me too. Really up against it. 463 00:23:57,740 --> 00:23:59,960 So I don't think I can ask him to come out of the session 464 00:24:00,060 --> 00:24:03,100 for something unscheduled like this. OK. I'm really sorry. That's OK. 465 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,120 I mean, you could maybe try his agent's e-mail. 466 00:24:06,220 --> 00:24:09,040 Maybe go down that route. No, that's OK. I'll wait. 467 00:24:09,140 --> 00:24:12,940 Yeah. I should say to you that I have no idea what time the session 468 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,240 will actually finish. OK, cool. 469 00:24:14,340 --> 00:24:16,200 But I do know, one thing I know for certain, 470 00:24:16,300 --> 00:24:19,580 is that he's not coming out of there for a very, very long time. OK. 471 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,180 And I can't give you any assurance that he'll speak to you 472 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,780 when he does. OK, cool. Thanks. 473 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,700 Right. OK. 474 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:36,010 So, Claudia gets a show and we all get the Fit With Claudia, 475 00:24:36,110 --> 00:24:38,520 so I'm going to put those in the positive column. Yes, exactly. 476 00:24:38,620 --> 00:24:42,460 Cool. Yeah. Tick. Cos I've sort of done celebrity, I've done fluffing. 477 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,320 Right, yes. I know, tell me about it. 478 00:24:44,420 --> 00:24:46,790 Back at New Broadcasting House, it appears as if 479 00:24:46,890 --> 00:24:49,260 things might be going better than anyone expected 480 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:50,760 on a difficult morning for the BBC. 481 00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:52,970 So, you probably know Claudia's being asked to look at 482 00:24:53,070 --> 00:24:55,180 a lot of stuff at the moment. Of course, yes. Exactly. 483 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,240 Sure. - But appearances can be deceptive. 484 00:24:57,340 --> 00:24:59,200 One of the things that works about this for Claudia 485 00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:02,330 is that there's nothing else like it out there at the moment. Well, yes. 486 00:25:02,430 --> 00:25:05,460 No way. Exactly. It's being sold to us as a stand-alone proposition. 487 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:06,880 Sure. Yes, exactly, yes. 488 00:25:06,980 --> 00:25:09,500 So, I think this is an opportunity for you to be upfront with us 489 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:10,660 about that. Right. 490 00:25:13,740 --> 00:25:17,100 I'm sorry, I think you're going to have to help us with that, Tasmin. 491 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,920 Claudia has heard that the BBC is developing 492 00:25:20,020 --> 00:25:22,940 a very similar idea to On Your Bike for its daytime schedules 493 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:24,480 with Amanda Holden as presenter. 494 00:25:24,580 --> 00:25:28,140 Amanda Holden? Yes. OK, no, I'm sorry. Lovely Amanda. 495 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,560 The fact is, no, I'm sorry. 496 00:25:29,660 --> 00:25:31,960 I mean, feel free to correct me, anyone, but I'm pretty sure 497 00:25:32,060 --> 00:25:36,580 I can say with some confidence that that's not true. Yes, exactly. OK. 498 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,100 Yay. Just out of interest, Claudia, where did you hear that? 499 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,680 From Amanda. Right. The Amanda? Yes. 500 00:25:43,780 --> 00:25:46,880 It's starting to look as if either Claudia's apparent 501 00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:50,300 intelligence is fake or someone from within the BBC has been 502 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,780 quietly developing an almost identical show 503 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,160 to On Your Bike without telling anyone. 504 00:25:55,260 --> 00:25:57,240 Amanda Holden's Cycling Shorts or something. 505 00:25:57,340 --> 00:26:00,390 Amanda Holden's Cycling Shorts? OK, no, I'm sorry. Right, yes... 506 00:26:00,490 --> 00:26:03,440 I mean, I love Amanda, we get on really well and everything... 507 00:26:03,540 --> 00:26:06,260 Do you know what, can I just say that's really interesting, Tasmin. 508 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:07,340 Right, OK. Bummer. 509 00:26:22,420 --> 00:26:24,880 Hey. Hi, yeah. How can I help? Yeah, cos I was wondering 510 00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:27,790 if you know how much longer Sir David Attenborough will be? Right. 511 00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:30,700 It's cool, I don't mind waiting. I think you might have missed him, 512 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,540 I'm afraid. Missed him? Yeah, cos the session's actually over. 513 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,800 No, but I've been here all the time. Yeah, I know. 514 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:39,100 Like, I haven't even been to the toilet. Yeah, there's, like, 515 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:40,280 a back entrance. Right. 516 00:26:40,380 --> 00:26:44,540 I'm guessing they probably went out that way. OK. I'm sorry. OK, cool. 517 00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:24,060 Back at New Broadcasting House, it's the end of a day 518 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,920 which has left Head Of Values Ian Fletcher 519 00:27:26,020 --> 00:27:29,820 with some things he'd like to talk to Head Of Strategic Governance 520 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,440 Simon Harwood about. Such as what the hell is going on. 521 00:27:32,540 --> 00:27:35,160 Ah, yes, brilliant. Is this a good time? Yes, no, brilliant. 522 00:27:35,260 --> 00:27:38,380 Come on in. - Luckily, Simon himself is still in his office, 523 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,020 busy putting a positive gloss on things. 524 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:41,660 Yes, I mean, I don't know what it is, 525 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,040 but five minutes with your saddle 526 00:27:43,140 --> 00:27:45,620 at the end of the day... Yes. ..just clears the pipes somehow. 527 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,720 Yes. Yes, no, jolly good. Shall we sit soft? 528 00:27:47,820 --> 00:27:49,820 No, thanks. No, OK. I'm happy standing hard. 529 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Yes, no, jolly good. 530 00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:53,480 Do you want to take that? No. No, OK, fine. 531 00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:57,100 Well, no, listen, I've no idea how this more of less stuff works 532 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,400 and you'll know how you want to feel about it... 533 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,340 It seems that the BBC is shortly to announce a major 534 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,600 senior management simplification which follows 535 00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:08,060 the pattern of encouraging more staff to apply for fewer jobs 536 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,240 by abolishing the ones they've already got. 537 00:28:10,340 --> 00:28:12,840 In this case, the existing posts of Head Of Output, 538 00:28:12,940 --> 00:28:16,160 Director Of Better, and Head Of Values are to be abolished 539 00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:19,180 and replaced by a single new post of Director Of Purpose, going forward. 540 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,660 ..Director Of Purpose, going forward. Director Of Purpose? 541 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,640 Yes, no, I mean, I guess, essentially, it's a pretty 542 00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:26,620 simple idea. Is it? Well, I guess it would be, with the simplification, 543 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,220 wouldn't it? Right, OK. Do you know, I'm going to put these down. 544 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,960 I feel a bit of a fool standing here like this. 545 00:28:31,060 --> 00:28:33,900 How long have you known about this, Simon? No, I know, brilliant. 546 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,320 Frankly, it's pretty much a full-time job just keeping up 547 00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:39,260 with things, these days, isn't it? I mean, really. Does Anna know? 548 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,280 Ah, yes, now, with Anna... Obviously, Matt knew. 549 00:28:41,380 --> 00:28:44,020 Yes, now, with that, listen, I've no idea how Anna works. No. 550 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:45,680 And what happens if I don't apply for it? 551 00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:49,620 Ah, now, no, I can't hear that. What? I can't hear it. Say you will. 50957

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