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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:16,900 --> 00:00:20,210 Previously, on "Dirty John"... 2 00:00:20,250 --> 00:00:22,010 Rocket-propelled grenade. 3 00:00:22,050 --> 00:00:24,520 The guy who was next to me in the Humvee died. 4 00:00:24,540 --> 00:00:25,726 You're saying he wasn't there? 5 00:00:25,750 --> 00:00:27,850 I'm just saying he wasn't in Iraq 6 00:00:27,860 --> 00:00:29,950 when you keep saying he was. 7 00:00:30,090 --> 00:00:31,439 Who the hell's "TS"? 8 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,706 "Can't wait for tomorrow night." 9 00:00:32,730 --> 00:00:34,790 - Who is it? - Toby, my nephew. 10 00:00:34,830 --> 00:00:36,840 - Toby Sellars? - Excuse me. 11 00:00:36,860 --> 00:00:38,900 - Be right back. - Who's that? 12 00:00:38,930 --> 00:00:40,346 - Is that... - Yeah, it's my brother-in-law. 13 00:00:40,370 --> 00:00:41,780 - Ex-brother... - Your brother-in-law? 14 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:43,500 You should be glad your dad killed your mom 15 00:00:43,540 --> 00:00:45,440 so she didn't have to be around to see this. 16 00:00:47,310 --> 00:00:49,640 Did you open my mail? How dare you! 17 00:00:49,660 --> 00:00:51,910 It's a felony to open someone's mail. 18 00:00:51,950 --> 00:00:54,650 In California and Ohio he's been in prison. 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,750 - So then what should I do? - If you have a will 20 00:00:56,780 --> 00:00:58,180 and he's in it, take him out. 21 00:00:58,220 --> 00:01:00,120 - Call someone, Deb! - Oh, my God! 22 00:01:00,150 --> 00:01:01,790 - What's going on? - I don't know. 23 00:01:01,820 --> 00:01:04,690 He was fine, and then he just collapsed. 24 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,420 Could you help me understand his history with narcotics? 25 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,740 If you were me, what would you do? 26 00:01:09,780 --> 00:01:11,700 - Would you leave? - Stay in hotels 27 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,460 or places you've never stayed before. 28 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:14,830 Dye your hair, probably. 29 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:16,730 Make yourself a difficult target. 30 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,730 _ 31 00:01:25,750 --> 00:01:28,010 You just have to give it time. 32 00:01:28,050 --> 00:01:30,150 - I can't. - You... you just have 33 00:01:30,180 --> 00:01:32,520 to give it a chance to work. 34 00:01:32,550 --> 00:01:36,290 I know, I know, I do, but it just feels wrong. 35 00:01:36,320 --> 00:01:37,790 It feels wrong. 36 00:01:37,820 --> 00:01:40,320 But they said it would, remember? 37 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,080 They... they said that it would feel counterintuitive. 38 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:47,139 That's what Mr.... um, your counselor said. 39 00:01:47,140 --> 00:01:49,170 That to make a marriage work 40 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,340 that, you know, it seems like 41 00:01:51,370 --> 00:01:53,300 we should hang on much tighter 42 00:01:53,340 --> 00:01:56,170 and stay even closer, but that sometimes 43 00:01:56,210 --> 00:01:58,240 a, um... a separation 44 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,340 can bring a new perspective. 45 00:02:00,380 --> 00:02:02,080 Said it would only work 46 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,420 if we both had the same goals, if we were both honest... 47 00:02:04,450 --> 00:02:06,020 - Right. - About wanting it to work 48 00:02:06,030 --> 00:02:07,030 but Cindi isn't. 49 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,700 She's pretending she does but she doesn't. 50 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,590 Why do you say that? 51 00:02:10,620 --> 00:02:12,036 It was the only way left to show him 52 00:02:12,060 --> 00:02:13,560 that we really tried hard enough. 53 00:02:13,590 --> 00:02:15,560 Hard enough to what? 54 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,200 To save the marriage. 55 00:02:17,230 --> 00:02:19,330 So he can accept that it can't be saved. 56 00:02:19,370 --> 00:02:21,600 Well, that's not what he thought was happening. 57 00:02:21,660 --> 00:02:24,000 He went there in good faith. 58 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,180 Of course he did. 59 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,410 I mean, the whole thing was his idea. 60 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,840 Years of not listening to me, of trying to control 61 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,560 everything that I do, I finally say that I want 62 00:02:32,580 --> 00:02:34,580 to leave, that I am leaving, 63 00:02:34,610 --> 00:02:36,380 and then he wants to go to counseling. 64 00:02:36,420 --> 00:02:37,980 - Cindi... - So someone can tell me 65 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,020 to try harder. Tell me to be happy 66 00:02:40,050 --> 00:02:43,060 my whole life not being allowed to wear a bikini on the beach. 67 00:02:43,620 --> 00:02:45,460 Not being allowed to go grocery shopping alone 68 00:02:45,490 --> 00:02:47,120 or do anything alone. 69 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,390 I always encouraged her to be 70 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:51,400 whatever she wanted to be. 71 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:53,400 Said I never gave her room to grow. 72 00:02:53,430 --> 00:02:55,930 I asked, "Grow into what?" 73 00:02:55,970 --> 00:02:58,300 She won't ever tell me. 74 00:03:00,610 --> 00:03:03,540 I've known her my whole life. 75 00:03:03,580 --> 00:03:05,780 I can't remember a time when I didn't love her. 76 00:03:05,810 --> 00:03:08,150 I'm the love of his life because I've just been there 77 00:03:08,180 --> 00:03:09,710 his whole life. 78 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:12,080 We were babies. We didn't know any better. 79 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,450 You were right. 80 00:03:14,490 --> 00:03:16,920 You told me that we were too young to get married 81 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,590 and I didn't listen. 82 00:03:19,630 --> 00:03:22,730 Debbie listened and I didn't and you were right, 83 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:23,860 like you always are. 84 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,630 - And now here we are. - Don't be so dramatic. 85 00:03:26,670 --> 00:03:28,770 And I say that as someone who's on your side. 86 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,170 But you don't want me to be happy. 87 00:03:34,540 --> 00:03:36,670 I want to stop you 88 00:03:36,710 --> 00:03:39,110 from making a mistake that you won't be able to fix. 89 00:03:39,150 --> 00:03:40,680 And you're almost there. 90 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:42,450 You've been together so long. 91 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,239 You were both so young. 92 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:48,090 When Cindi thinks about what she thinks she's missed 93 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,620 it's easier for her to just blame you. 94 00:03:50,660 --> 00:03:52,860 It's easier for her to say 95 00:03:52,890 --> 00:03:55,260 that you're in her way and that she wants a new start 96 00:03:55,300 --> 00:03:57,600 rather than make the life she has 97 00:03:57,630 --> 00:03:59,930 into the life that she wants. 98 00:03:59,970 --> 00:04:03,270 When we choose what we want, 99 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:06,200 what we feel right now, 100 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,770 over what we promised... 101 00:04:08,810 --> 00:04:11,540 what we swore to somebody... 102 00:04:13,410 --> 00:04:16,220 That can haunt us the rest of our lives. 103 00:04:21,390 --> 00:04:23,150 Well, I would choose whatever comes next 104 00:04:23,190 --> 00:04:25,860 to be free right now. 105 00:04:25,890 --> 00:04:29,190 I would choose being haunted my whole life, Mom. 106 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:32,800 She wants a divorce. 107 00:04:32,830 --> 00:04:34,600 She's not saying it yet but she will. 108 00:04:34,630 --> 00:04:37,000 And what am I gonna do? 109 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,700 She's... she's confused. 110 00:04:39,740 --> 00:04:42,410 She's just confused. 111 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,256 Can you just tell me that you at least understand 112 00:04:44,280 --> 00:04:46,340 what I'm saying? 113 00:04:52,850 --> 00:04:55,720 Trust in the Lord with all your heart 114 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,090 and lean not on your own understandings. 115 00:04:59,130 --> 00:05:01,030 In all your ways acknowledge Him 116 00:05:01,060 --> 00:05:03,160 and He will direct your path. 117 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,260 - You love that one. - Mm. 118 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:09,100 You love the whole Book of Proverbs, 119 00:05:09,140 --> 00:05:12,260 but you really love that one. 120 00:05:12,300 --> 00:05:14,260 Because it's true. 121 00:05:15,910 --> 00:05:18,220 He directs our paths. 122 00:05:26,550 --> 00:05:28,240 Bobby, hey! 123 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:29,590 Uh, Frank left for work already. 124 00:05:29,620 --> 00:05:30,800 Did he tell you he was gonna be here? 125 00:05:30,820 --> 00:05:32,280 No, I... I figured he wouldn't. 126 00:05:33,930 --> 00:05:35,160 Said he wouldn't need to be. 127 00:05:35,180 --> 00:05:38,260 Said I could come by any time and you could help me out. 128 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,770 - Yeah, sure. - The loading dock's 129 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,200 right next to where we park. 130 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,300 It's always lit, but still. 131 00:05:44,340 --> 00:05:47,200 Three muggings in the last five weeks. 132 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,070 I'm a manager now, so I gotta lock up at nights, too, so... 133 00:05:50,110 --> 00:05:52,480 Wow, I had no idea it had gotten so dangerous. 134 00:05:52,510 --> 00:05:55,450 Poor Cindi must wait up all night worrying about you. 135 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:56,480 I know I would. 136 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,320 Oh, finally. 137 00:06:01,850 --> 00:06:03,620 Here. 138 00:06:03,660 --> 00:06:06,320 Now, don't you go holding up a liquor store or anything. 139 00:06:07,190 --> 00:06:10,300 Pretty sure I'm not gonna be doing that. 140 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,380 - Good looking out, though. - Mm-hmm. 141 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:45,360 - Synced & corrected by MementMori - -- www.addic7ed.com -- 142 00:06:49,330 --> 00:06:51,329 He steals drugs from hospitals... 143 00:06:51,330 --> 00:06:53,640 which he's been to prison for, by the way... 144 00:06:53,660 --> 00:06:54,940 and for the stalking. 145 00:06:54,970 --> 00:06:56,360 I saw all that stuff in there. 146 00:06:56,370 --> 00:06:58,380 - I get it, I do. - Okay, so how many 147 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:00,380 restraining orders do there have to be 148 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,220 from how many different people before you do your job? 149 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,400 Well, right now I am seeing which law 150 00:07:05,460 --> 00:07:07,210 I can actually enforce 151 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,420 in this particular situation that we have right here. 152 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,080 Okay, "John Meehan." 153 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,380 Parole officer has Bay Front Avenue 154 00:07:16,420 --> 00:07:18,290 on Balboa as his current address. 155 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Nice. You live there too, miss? 156 00:07:21,090 --> 00:07:23,360 - Yes. - Okay. 157 00:07:23,390 --> 00:07:25,560 He's not on the lease, though, is that right? 158 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,500 "John Meehan"? 159 00:07:27,530 --> 00:07:29,600 No. 160 00:07:29,620 --> 00:07:31,280 Does it... how do you know that? 161 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,450 Well, it says PO asked for a copy of the lease 162 00:07:33,490 --> 00:07:35,750 to confirm, but Meehan told her he couldn't give her one 163 00:07:35,790 --> 00:07:38,000 - 'cause it wasn't in his name. - Given his history 164 00:07:38,020 --> 00:07:40,400 of conning women, she didn't maybe think that 165 00:07:40,420 --> 00:07:42,930 - that was a red flag? - She did, actually. 166 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,930 File says she was planning to make an unannounced 167 00:07:44,970 --> 00:07:46,530 site visit to check his story out. 168 00:07:46,570 --> 00:07:49,630 Okay, except how about she did not do that? 169 00:07:49,670 --> 00:07:52,270 He's not the only parolee she's gotta keep tabs on. 170 00:07:52,310 --> 00:07:55,300 And he gave her the address in mid-December, 171 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:58,400 so she probably just hasn't had time to get there. 172 00:08:01,550 --> 00:08:04,320 You two were pen pals when he was in the joint? 173 00:08:04,350 --> 00:08:06,020 No. 174 00:08:06,050 --> 00:08:08,800 So it just all happened pretty fast, then, 175 00:08:08,820 --> 00:08:10,140 once he got out. 176 00:08:10,180 --> 00:08:12,320 You guys meeting, getting together I guess. 177 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,660 Is that what you guess? 178 00:08:13,690 --> 00:08:15,280 Do you think you're being subtle? 179 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:16,890 - Look, I... - Because you are not. 180 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:18,400 Do you not think that my mother 181 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,280 is already upset enough over this? 182 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,640 You think she wants to come here 183 00:08:23,660 --> 00:08:26,480 so you can make her feel worse? 184 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,420 Think that's why she pays her taxes? 185 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:29,760 So she can come into your office 186 00:08:29,770 --> 00:08:31,760 and you can shame her? 187 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,340 - Is that what you think? - Look, that's not 188 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:35,430 - what I think. - Good. 189 00:08:35,470 --> 00:08:37,300 I'm sorry. 190 00:08:37,330 --> 00:08:39,740 But what I do think is there's not a whole lot I can do. 191 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,960 Right. 192 00:08:40,980 --> 00:08:43,500 So that means you can do nothing, right? 193 00:08:43,540 --> 00:08:46,000 What I mean is, since he's paid his recent debt 194 00:08:46,020 --> 00:08:47,980 to society, what I have is a bad guy 195 00:08:48,010 --> 00:08:49,880 with a bad history who, so far as we know, 196 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:52,500 hasn't actually broken a law in Newport Beach. 197 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:54,980 I can't even pick him up for failure to report 198 00:08:55,020 --> 00:08:56,420 to his PO. 199 00:08:56,450 --> 00:08:58,479 Whatever this is he's up to, he's good at it. 200 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,480 But he's on our radar now... my radar... 201 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,500 - and if he makes a move... - When. 202 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,160 When he makes a move. 203 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:08,120 We'll be on him like a ton of bricks. 204 00:09:08,140 --> 00:09:10,330 You have my word on that. 205 00:09:10,370 --> 00:09:11,660 Right now that's all I got. 206 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:15,620 Oh, what about this place? 207 00:09:15,630 --> 00:09:17,220 I designed the club at that place. 208 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:18,360 John might remember. 209 00:09:18,380 --> 00:09:20,350 Anyway, you know, I'm pretending I'm going 210 00:09:20,380 --> 00:09:22,026 - on a spa vacation. - This place looks good. 211 00:09:22,050 --> 00:09:23,479 I don't want to hemorrhage money. 212 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,600 That place is so expensive, Ronnie. 213 00:09:25,630 --> 00:09:27,220 So where, then? Huh? 214 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,220 Don't get frustrated with me in addition 215 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,120 - to everything else right now. - We can't go to Grandma's, 216 00:09:31,140 --> 00:09:32,280 and you can't go to Trey's 'cause he knows 217 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:33,560 where both of them live, and I'm out 218 00:09:33,580 --> 00:09:34,960 of the penthouse already. 219 00:09:34,980 --> 00:09:38,030 Although, technically that is still paid for 220 00:09:38,060 --> 00:09:40,080 through the end of the month, but that's like ground zero 221 00:09:40,100 --> 00:09:41,480 for this whole stupid situation. 222 00:09:41,500 --> 00:09:43,000 What about one of those places, you know, 223 00:09:43,020 --> 00:09:44,580 over by the Spectrum? 224 00:09:44,620 --> 00:09:45,999 You know those places? 225 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,120 Like, one of the corporate suites? 226 00:09:48,180 --> 00:09:49,470 - Yeah. - With the shower curtains? 227 00:09:49,490 --> 00:09:51,620 They have self-parking, Mom. 228 00:09:51,660 --> 00:09:53,270 I know, but I have to go 229 00:09:53,290 --> 00:09:55,730 to a place that I wouldn't normally go, you know? 230 00:09:55,760 --> 00:09:56,760 I don't want to stand out. 231 00:09:56,770 --> 00:09:57,820 I don't want to do my normal routine. 232 00:09:57,830 --> 00:09:59,700 I don't want John to find me. 233 00:09:59,730 --> 00:10:01,830 We should pay for the room in cash. 234 00:10:01,870 --> 00:10:03,660 Maybe you would know if he was monitoring 235 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:05,770 your credit cards, but maybe you wouldn't, you know? 236 00:10:05,810 --> 00:10:08,270 Let's go find an ATM. 237 00:10:08,410 --> 00:10:10,540 _ 238 00:10:10,620 --> 00:10:14,560 _ 239 00:10:21,490 --> 00:10:22,540 I got it. 240 00:10:27,660 --> 00:10:30,160 Oh, my God. 241 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,360 It's not so bad. 242 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,400 I mean, at least you're not here forever, right? 243 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,910 - Right. - It's dark and musty. 244 00:10:45,310 --> 00:10:48,580 You know there's no room service here, right? 245 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:50,160 That's all right. I... I'm not... 246 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,560 I'm not really hungry anyway. 247 00:10:53,820 --> 00:10:55,920 Did you call the hospital? 248 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,020 I did, and, you know, I... I talked to the nurse 249 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,290 who was sitting right in front of John. 250 00:11:01,330 --> 00:11:02,930 He's not going anywhere. 251 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,280 She says his fever is very high 252 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:07,470 and they're watching his immune system. 253 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,500 Post-surgery or something. 254 00:11:10,540 --> 00:11:13,380 Let's hope they forget to sanitize, huh? 255 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:18,340 - But I should go. - Oh, okay. 256 00:11:18,380 --> 00:11:20,140 Are you gonna be okay here on your own? 257 00:11:20,180 --> 00:11:21,480 - Yes. - You sure? 258 00:11:21,510 --> 00:11:23,150 - Mm-hmm. - Okay. 259 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,290 - You call me if you need me. - Okay. 260 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:28,620 Thank you, hun. 261 00:11:58,550 --> 00:12:00,120 I've figured it out now, I guess. 262 00:12:02,860 --> 00:12:05,790 I don't understand where you are, Deb. 263 00:12:11,230 --> 00:12:13,830 I don't understand what's happening. 264 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Maybe I do. I just... 265 00:12:18,970 --> 00:12:21,810 don't want to believe you're a coward. 266 00:12:23,140 --> 00:12:25,640 You promised me this was forever. 267 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,350 We promised that to each other. 268 00:12:28,380 --> 00:12:30,700 Well, I guess you didn't mean it. 269 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,680 But I did. 270 00:12:34,780 --> 00:12:38,420 The choices we make show who we are. 271 00:12:38,460 --> 00:12:40,699 I know who you are now, Deb. 272 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:47,600 Pray for me, at least. 273 00:12:47,630 --> 00:12:48,720 Okay? 274 00:12:48,780 --> 00:12:51,600 - _ - 'Cause I'm praying for you. 275 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:57,319 Try it again. 276 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,919 ♪ Two... one, two, three ♪ 277 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,680 Tuck that... 278 00:13:00,740 --> 00:13:02,740 Coming back down. 279 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,130 Okay, keep going. 280 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:05,500 I'll be right back. 281 00:13:12,770 --> 00:13:14,299 - Hello? - Hi, Mom, it's Cindi. 282 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:15,340 Hi! 283 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,710 - Are you teaching all day? - Yes... uh, yeah. 284 00:13:17,740 --> 00:13:20,180 - Most of the day, yeah. - Think you can take a break? 285 00:13:20,210 --> 00:13:22,380 Um, about noon. 286 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:24,310 Uh, I could maybe move one of my students. 287 00:13:24,350 --> 00:13:25,700 No, noon is good. 288 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,880 I just want to tell you what's happening. 289 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,680 Okay, well... well, come hungry. 290 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,220 - I'll make us a special lunch. - I'll see you at 12:00. 291 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,420 - I love you. - Okay. 292 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,800 You, too. Bye. 293 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Oh, Cindi, Cindi, Cindi. 294 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,060 - Oh, Megan. - Sorry I'm early. 295 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:15,130 My mom had to drop me off... 296 00:14:15,170 --> 00:14:16,780 Oh, that's fine, honey. 297 00:14:16,790 --> 00:14:18,730 - That's fine, I was just... - Is Mom here? 298 00:14:18,770 --> 00:14:20,340 No, Toby, honey, I'm sorry. 299 00:14:20,370 --> 00:14:21,959 No, I... I must have heard her wrong. 300 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,120 Um, I'll send her right in to you 301 00:14:23,140 --> 00:14:24,840 when she gets here, okay? 302 00:14:39,460 --> 00:14:42,860 Did I make it worse for you? 303 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,530 Because I liked him so much? 304 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:49,320 Did I make it harder for you to see who he really was? 305 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,740 No. 306 00:14:56,310 --> 00:14:58,840 Mom, I... I don't think I... 307 00:14:58,980 --> 00:15:01,680 ever saw who he really was. 308 00:15:01,710 --> 00:15:04,010 What the kids told me... 309 00:15:04,050 --> 00:15:06,880 what they found out is... is just unbelievable. 310 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:09,840 - Mm-hmm. - I... I can't wrap my mind around it. 311 00:15:12,090 --> 00:15:13,760 You know... 312 00:15:13,790 --> 00:15:17,590 there was something that I felt around him. 313 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:21,230 I don't know, something... 314 00:15:21,260 --> 00:15:23,260 missing in him, you know? 315 00:15:23,300 --> 00:15:24,920 Yeah. 316 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,920 Honesty. 317 00:15:30,470 --> 00:15:32,880 That was it. 318 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,910 Oh, we're laughing about it. 319 00:15:39,950 --> 00:15:42,220 Oh, my goodness. 320 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:46,940 But you know, that thing that I felt... 321 00:15:47,660 --> 00:15:50,930 I... it never was about you, Debbie. 322 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,860 Always thought he loved you. 323 00:15:59,540 --> 00:16:00,940 I did too. 324 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,960 I still... I still kinda do. 325 00:16:05,210 --> 00:16:06,740 Is that crazy? 326 00:16:06,780 --> 00:16:08,920 No, 'cause you're wonderful. 327 00:16:09,150 --> 00:16:11,680 How could he not love you? 328 00:16:15,020 --> 00:16:16,620 Oh, I don't know. 329 00:16:16,650 --> 00:16:19,540 Is it worse or better to know that... 330 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:22,940 he did this to women before you? 331 00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:26,880 You know, he didn't... 332 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,699 he didn't do anything to me, really, except lie. 333 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:32,700 But to lie... 334 00:16:32,740 --> 00:16:35,170 about being in prison? 335 00:16:35,210 --> 00:16:38,310 - I know. - Stalking women and... and... 336 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,310 Oh, my goodness, he's not even a doctor. 337 00:16:42,350 --> 00:16:44,710 I mean, what... what kind of a person does that? 338 00:16:44,750 --> 00:16:47,480 What... what must be, you know, 339 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,780 inside him to do something like that? 340 00:16:49,820 --> 00:16:52,320 - I don't know. - Well... 341 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:53,720 how could you know? 342 00:16:53,770 --> 00:16:54,940 How could you? 343 00:16:56,590 --> 00:16:59,690 But I do wonder, you know, 'cause... 344 00:16:59,730 --> 00:17:02,700 nobody's without sin. 345 00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:04,520 And... 346 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:06,370 everybody can be saved. 347 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,300 You say it all the time. 348 00:17:08,340 --> 00:17:09,640 You know, nobody's perfect. 349 00:17:09,670 --> 00:17:12,040 Everybody has something. 350 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,880 But, Debbie, you... you didn't do anything 351 00:17:14,910 --> 00:17:17,050 to deserve this. 352 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,750 What did you do to... to deserve for... 353 00:17:19,780 --> 00:17:22,250 for him to hurt you like that? 354 00:17:22,290 --> 00:17:25,020 To betray you. 355 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,560 - I don't know. - You did nothing. 356 00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:29,000 You did nothing. 357 00:17:29,020 --> 00:17:31,020 I know. 358 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:36,260 Are you Mrs. Hart? 359 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:39,000 - Arlane Hart? - Yes. 360 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:40,540 Could we come in? 361 00:17:40,570 --> 00:17:42,700 O... of course. 362 00:17:45,980 --> 00:17:48,160 You did nothing wrong. 363 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,910 Thank God you found out now. 364 00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:53,380 Thank God that you're away from him. 365 00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:56,120 'Cause I couldn't lose 366 00:17:56,150 --> 00:17:57,170 another daughter. 367 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:00,250 I can't, I can't. 368 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,060 Are you home alone, Mrs. Hart? 369 00:18:05,580 --> 00:18:07,100 N... no, no. 370 00:18:07,120 --> 00:18:09,060 My grandson, he's... he's watching TV. 371 00:18:09,070 --> 00:18:11,020 He's... he's 11. 372 00:18:13,740 --> 00:18:15,140 What... what is it? 373 00:18:15,170 --> 00:18:17,440 Ma'am... 374 00:18:17,470 --> 00:18:19,040 there's been a shooting. 375 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:22,780 What, is it... is it Bobby? 376 00:18:22,810 --> 00:18:25,610 Is it Bobby who's been... who's been shot? 377 00:18:25,650 --> 00:18:29,020 Ma'am, your daughter, Cindi Sellars, has been shot. 378 00:18:30,090 --> 00:18:31,550 Oh... 379 00:18:31,590 --> 00:18:34,340 uh, how... how bad is she? 380 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,120 I'm sorry. She... 381 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:38,220 She didn't make it. 382 00:18:39,460 --> 00:18:42,260 Your son-in-law shot your daughter... 383 00:18:42,300 --> 00:18:43,880 And then he shot himself. 384 00:18:43,890 --> 00:18:45,040 O-oh... 385 00:18:47,140 --> 00:18:49,270 Is... is he dead? 386 00:18:49,310 --> 00:18:51,740 No, he shot himself in the chest area. 387 00:18:51,780 --> 00:18:54,940 He's at the hospital in custody. 388 00:18:56,780 --> 00:18:59,610 I... I... 389 00:18:59,650 --> 00:19:02,480 I... I have... 390 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:17,140 Oh, please, help me. 391 00:19:25,410 --> 00:19:29,100 Oh, please. Oh, please. 392 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,920 I... I can do this. 393 00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:39,160 I'm not alone. 394 00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:41,960 I can do this. 395 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,600 Could it be Mr. Rogers? 396 00:19:52,870 --> 00:19:55,170 You're in the neighborhood. 397 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,100 Have a seat. 398 00:20:00,510 --> 00:20:01,980 Toby? 399 00:20:02,010 --> 00:20:03,160 Hi, sweetie. 400 00:20:03,180 --> 00:20:07,180 - You are the first lad... - Something's happened. 401 00:20:09,290 --> 00:20:12,320 Something terrible has happened. 402 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:15,160 - Why are policemen here? - Um... 403 00:20:15,490 --> 00:20:18,330 well, they... they came to tell me... 404 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:21,470 that your father has shot 405 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,140 and killed your mother. 406 00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:27,230 That she is dead. 407 00:20:27,470 --> 00:20:29,200 Y... your Daddy's okay. 408 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,670 He... he shot himself, too, but he's okay. 409 00:20:31,710 --> 00:20:33,180 He's not dead. 410 00:20:33,340 --> 00:20:35,960 He's in the hospital right now. 411 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:47,190 It's okay. We can do this. 412 00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:50,740 But we have to be strong. 413 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:52,560 So strong. 414 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,730 It's gonna be so, so hard... 415 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,460 but Jesus will help us. 416 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:59,370 And we have each other, and we have Him, 417 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,970 and we will get through this together. 418 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,240 All of us. 419 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,810 And, um... okay. 420 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,210 I... I have to... 421 00:21:10,250 --> 00:21:12,550 I have to go... 422 00:21:12,580 --> 00:21:16,170 make some phone... some phone calls, 423 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,720 and so you watch a little more TV, okay? 424 00:21:18,750 --> 00:21:22,020 And I will come back in a bit and get you. 425 00:21:22,060 --> 00:21:23,990 Okay, love bug? 426 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:29,260 I can be strong with you, Grandma. 427 00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:33,570 Mm. I know you can, my sweet boy. 428 00:21:44,210 --> 00:21:46,210 The good news is, you're free of him now. 429 00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:48,450 You know, you're here, you're safe. 430 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:51,280 That's all I care about. 431 00:21:51,850 --> 00:21:53,280 Thank you. 432 00:21:56,290 --> 00:21:58,530 Some of the stuff me and Ronnie found out 433 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,260 about this guy? 434 00:22:01,300 --> 00:22:03,530 He's a con man, you know? 435 00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:06,399 He wanted money for drugs and all that stuff 436 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,370 but he was more than that. 437 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,140 What he really wants is for people 438 00:22:10,170 --> 00:22:12,740 to remember him. 439 00:22:12,780 --> 00:22:14,270 He wanted these women 440 00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:17,280 to live in fear of him, which is crazy. 441 00:22:17,860 --> 00:22:20,450 That'd be like the one thing that I would ask him about 442 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,650 if I ever saw him again, you know? 443 00:22:22,690 --> 00:22:24,720 "Why?" 444 00:22:26,460 --> 00:22:28,760 Not that'd ever explain himself to me. 445 00:22:28,790 --> 00:22:30,120 I don't know. 446 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,790 He might. 447 00:22:31,830 --> 00:22:33,320 Mm. 448 00:22:33,380 --> 00:22:36,760 He said this one woman was like his project. 449 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,270 Did you feel that way? 450 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:43,270 No. 451 00:22:45,540 --> 00:22:48,310 No, I just... 452 00:22:48,340 --> 00:22:50,310 felt like he loved me. 453 00:22:52,410 --> 00:22:55,180 I mean, he's one heck of a liar, right? 454 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:57,950 I'm sure part of it's true, you know. 455 00:22:57,990 --> 00:23:00,020 He must have felt that way a little bit 456 00:23:00,060 --> 00:23:03,090 to convince people like that. 457 00:23:03,130 --> 00:23:05,340 Like you. 458 00:23:10,130 --> 00:23:12,630 I could never really understand... 459 00:23:12,670 --> 00:23:15,170 what happened to Mom, you know. 460 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,770 Why, uh... 461 00:23:17,810 --> 00:23:20,810 why Dad did that thing to her. 462 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,140 Because he loved her too much? 463 00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:28,180 Sometimes I still don't understand, you know? 464 00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:31,150 - Mm. - But... 465 00:23:31,190 --> 00:23:33,690 this thing with John... 466 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,620 why he does these things... 467 00:23:36,660 --> 00:23:38,790 it almost makes that seem simple. 468 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,020 Over here. You got ten minutes. 469 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,440 I'm so sorry. 470 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:26,480 I am so, so sorry. 471 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,210 When... when you would come and... 472 00:24:31,250 --> 00:24:33,420 and talk to me about... 473 00:24:34,350 --> 00:24:37,460 Did you already know you were gonna do it? 474 00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:40,720 Yes. 475 00:24:42,260 --> 00:24:45,330 To myself, um... 476 00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:47,440 I wanted to do it to myself. 477 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,820 Not to her. 478 00:24:49,860 --> 00:24:53,530 I mean, not her. Not ever. 479 00:24:53,570 --> 00:24:54,770 How are you? 480 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,100 You're wearing... 481 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,920 It doesn't matter. 482 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:07,480 Do you still want to die? 483 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,480 Yes, but... 484 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:11,500 I don't deserve to. 485 00:25:12,860 --> 00:25:15,110 I should live every day 486 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,890 of a long life in here thinking about her. 487 00:25:21,630 --> 00:25:23,500 How's Toby? 488 00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,170 Scared. 489 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:30,400 For you. For... 490 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,440 where you are and what might be happening to you. 491 00:25:33,810 --> 00:25:35,410 You tell him not to be. 492 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,110 You just tell him, "Don't be scared." 493 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,480 You killed my daughter, Bobby. 494 00:25:42,650 --> 00:25:45,150 I hate what you've done. 495 00:25:47,220 --> 00:25:50,260 More than I've ever hated anything in this whole world. 496 00:25:53,630 --> 00:25:55,330 But you loved her. 497 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,100 I know that. 498 00:25:58,130 --> 00:26:00,170 God has given us all of this love 499 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,370 we have for each other. 500 00:26:03,910 --> 00:26:06,810 Long ago, he showed us who you are. 501 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,810 So we love you. 502 00:26:11,410 --> 00:26:13,380 Still. 503 00:26:15,050 --> 00:26:16,680 We all do. 504 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:18,620 Still. 505 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,540 How... how can you say that? 506 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,510 Can any hide himself in secret places 507 00:26:45,550 --> 00:26:47,780 that I shall not see him? 508 00:26:56,020 --> 00:26:59,520 In the Lord we have redemption through His blood. 509 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,260 The forgiveness of our trespasses... 510 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,500 According to the riches of His grace. 511 00:27:45,660 --> 00:27:47,600 Deb, I'm sorry. 512 00:27:48,390 --> 00:27:50,330 I am so... 513 00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:51,700 - so sorry. - No. 514 00:27:51,730 --> 00:27:53,620 I don't want to hear anything... 515 00:27:55,870 --> 00:27:57,680 from you except... 516 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,680 I want to know. 517 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,880 What do you want to know? 518 00:28:06,910 --> 00:28:09,620 What do you want to know? 519 00:28:21,330 --> 00:28:23,640 Why'd you do all that? 520 00:28:24,830 --> 00:28:27,360 You heard what I told... 521 00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:29,870 the Sergeant. 522 00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:32,400 About the drugs. 523 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,540 The pain management program. 524 00:28:38,110 --> 00:28:40,310 There's no... 525 00:28:40,350 --> 00:28:42,610 I'm the program. 526 00:28:44,220 --> 00:28:45,720 I'm an addict. 527 00:28:48,590 --> 00:28:51,159 I'm in pain all the time. 528 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,496 - Oh, yeah, from shrapnel. - No one ever helped me. 529 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,260 - You said from shrapnel... - I know. 530 00:28:54,290 --> 00:28:56,330 That hit the Jeep and took out guys 531 00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:59,000 - you were working with in Iraq. - I know. 532 00:28:59,030 --> 00:29:01,000 - I know. - You said... you said 533 00:29:01,030 --> 00:29:03,460 you had a nursing degree and a... 534 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:06,240 a structure PhD that made you an MD. 535 00:29:06,270 --> 00:29:08,100 You're not a doctor, John. 536 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,540 I don't know. It was easier, lazier. 537 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:11,680 My ego, whatever. 538 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,340 To say "doctor," I just... 539 00:29:13,380 --> 00:29:16,120 you're so successful, and I wanted... 540 00:29:16,180 --> 00:29:17,496 - I just wanted... - So it's my fault? 541 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,980 - ... to be great for you. - So now this is my fault 542 00:29:18,990 --> 00:29:21,680 - that you... that you lied to me? - I wanted to be great for you. 543 00:29:21,740 --> 00:29:23,900 You're not a nurse, you're not a doctor. 544 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,300 - You don't have any... - No, that's not true. 545 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,160 - Any license. - That's not true. 546 00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:30,550 I had an appeal with the California medical board 547 00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,660 last October, and they granted me 548 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,080 a conditional license... just... only in this state... 549 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,116 so I could keep working until things got cleared up. 550 00:29:37,140 --> 00:29:39,099 So whoever told you that, they... 551 00:29:39,100 --> 00:29:41,000 - they do not have the latest result... - You know what... 552 00:29:41,020 --> 00:29:42,619 - ... from the medical appeals board. - I don't even care about that. 553 00:29:42,620 --> 00:29:43,630 You know, I wanna know about 554 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,150 all the other things way back before that. 555 00:29:46,180 --> 00:29:47,700 What other things? 556 00:29:47,780 --> 00:29:49,750 "What other things?" 557 00:29:49,780 --> 00:29:51,740 You tell me, John. 558 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,740 Those papers in the drawer? 559 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,620 You went in the office. 560 00:29:58,660 --> 00:30:00,490 You saw what was in the office. 561 00:30:00,530 --> 00:30:03,090 - Oh, God. - Yeah. 562 00:30:03,130 --> 00:30:05,760 I saw that stuff. What was that stuff? 563 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,720 My ex, Tonia. 564 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,240 She was having an affair. 565 00:30:14,270 --> 00:30:16,780 She got the divorce to be with him. 566 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,460 He got bored, so she pretended 567 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:20,640 to be scared of me. 568 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,150 She filed a restraining order just to show him. 569 00:30:23,180 --> 00:30:25,350 - Just to keep him interested. - There's so many 570 00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:28,620 - restraining orders. - They are not me! 571 00:30:28,650 --> 00:30:30,870 They're people with, like, a similar name... 572 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,859 Well, then how come cops and lawyers 573 00:30:32,860 --> 00:30:34,790 and people that, you know, 574 00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:39,300 get paid to find these things out, they... 575 00:30:39,330 --> 00:30:41,300 - they say they are you. - I have asked myself 576 00:30:41,330 --> 00:30:42,720 that question so many times. 577 00:30:42,780 --> 00:30:43,800 I don't know the answer. 578 00:30:43,810 --> 00:30:46,140 I mean, maybe the people that, you know, 579 00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:48,250 put the information in do it wrong. 580 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:50,440 I don't know, but you do a database search 581 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,560 and they all come up. 582 00:30:51,570 --> 00:30:53,780 I tried to get a lawyer to, like, separate me 583 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:55,050 from them, expunge them. 584 00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:56,880 You can do that if you can afford a lawyer, 585 00:30:56,900 --> 00:30:58,360 but I couldn't. 586 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,960 I found so many other things, John. 587 00:31:09,420 --> 00:31:11,600 What about the cops in Laguna? 588 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,660 They said you... you tried to kill them. 589 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:14,690 Come on. 590 00:31:14,700 --> 00:31:16,230 No charges were ever filed. 591 00:31:16,270 --> 00:31:18,320 Just because someone files a report doesn't mean 592 00:31:18,340 --> 00:31:19,800 that's what happened. 593 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,820 It's nothing. 594 00:31:23,820 --> 00:31:26,000 Once you're in the system, the cops, they just keep 595 00:31:26,020 --> 00:31:27,840 pulling your chain. 596 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,939 You're the bad guy. 597 00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:31,820 It's so easy for them, and, you know... 598 00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:34,350 No one stops them 599 00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:36,990 or checks on them. 600 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,920 Did you build a gun? 601 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,840 The police say they found knives, 602 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,820 they found cyanide. 603 00:31:46,030 --> 00:31:47,840 Why would you have cyanide? 604 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,780 I wasn't gonna tell you this stuff because... 605 00:31:55,610 --> 00:31:58,120 So much of what I thought 606 00:31:58,180 --> 00:32:00,910 I had done to myself... 607 00:32:00,950 --> 00:32:03,460 with the drugs... the numbness, 608 00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:05,420 the tingling, the... 609 00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:09,750 the balance, everything... 610 00:32:09,790 --> 00:32:11,880 It turns out it was MS. 611 00:32:14,830 --> 00:32:17,900 Which is impossible to treat, 612 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,900 so I told myself... 613 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,240 That if it ever got too much 614 00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:29,370 that the cyanide would help me. 615 00:32:29,410 --> 00:32:33,240 And it did help me just knowing that I had it. 616 00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:39,880 But I'd have done that I would never have met you. 617 00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:44,990 After Tonia got me arrested... 618 00:32:45,020 --> 00:32:47,920 when I was awaiting trial, 619 00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:50,730 I went to a motel... 620 00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:53,940 With my med bag... 621 00:32:55,330 --> 00:32:58,240 And a bottle of vodka... 622 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,280 But I didn't have the right sized syringe, 623 00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:08,650 so I didn't die. 624 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,180 I passed out and I fell off the bed 625 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:12,880 and I woke up... 626 00:33:16,890 --> 00:33:19,990 Covered in blood from the bottle 627 00:33:20,030 --> 00:33:21,420 waiting for someone to find me. 628 00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:23,460 I told you it was shrapnel... 629 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:25,960 but I'm the shrapnel. 630 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,130 The drugs... 631 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,170 They explode me. 632 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,480 They make me lie, 633 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:35,870 they make me steal... 634 00:33:35,980 --> 00:33:37,740 and they make me hurt the people 635 00:33:37,780 --> 00:33:39,940 that I love the most. 636 00:33:41,410 --> 00:33:43,980 Especially you. 637 00:33:44,150 --> 00:33:47,020 Can I just say one thing before you go? 638 00:33:49,090 --> 00:33:52,320 All those times that I said that you deserve the best? 639 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,960 I meant it. 640 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,980 You're incredible. 641 00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:00,500 I lied. I lied about me, 642 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,530 about my past, about my job... 643 00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:09,470 But not about you. 644 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:13,980 I never lied about how much I love you, Deb. 645 00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,130 Hey, uh, we don't have 646 00:34:37,170 --> 00:34:39,200 a receptionist right at the moment. 647 00:34:39,240 --> 00:34:42,240 She, um... who is your appointment with? 648 00:34:42,270 --> 00:34:44,040 I'm here to see Gregory Reedus. 649 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,460 Oh, that's me. Hi. 650 00:34:46,540 --> 00:34:47,760 - Hi. - Greg. 651 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,100 I'm Arlane Hart. 652 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,250 I'm Cindi Sellars' mother. 653 00:34:53,290 --> 00:34:56,050 Yeah, I know who you, um... 654 00:34:56,090 --> 00:34:58,260 I can't, uh, talk to you. 655 00:34:58,290 --> 00:35:00,220 - Mr. Reedus... - I'm really sorry, but I... 656 00:35:00,260 --> 00:35:01,660 - I can't. - Mr. Reedus, you have 657 00:35:01,690 --> 00:35:02,976 - to let me... - Maybe you're confused, 658 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,760 which is normal and it's fine, 659 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,430 but, uh, Lisa Usher at the DA's office, she, uh... 660 00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:11,770 she would be the one who you should, uh, talk to. 661 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,020 I... I know whose lawyer you are. 662 00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:16,910 Okay, so... 663 00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:19,380 then why are you here? 664 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,780 - Mom, it's me. - Uh, hi, hun. 665 00:35:27,820 --> 00:35:30,090 - Hi! - Hi. 666 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,020 - I got you a chai latte. - Thank you. 667 00:35:33,060 --> 00:35:35,530 My God, this room is even uglier in daylight. 668 00:35:37,130 --> 00:35:39,760 - What were you doing? - Oh, you know, 669 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,470 I'm trying to get some work done. 670 00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:45,600 - Nice. - What's that? 671 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:47,200 Oh, it's a GPS tracker. 672 00:35:47,240 --> 00:35:49,370 I put it on your car at Christmas. 673 00:35:49,410 --> 00:35:52,110 - You put it on my car? - Yeah. 674 00:35:52,140 --> 00:35:55,150 - To follow John, remember? - Oh. 675 00:35:55,180 --> 00:35:57,480 - No, I did not remember. - Yeah, I said that one of us 676 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,130 should put one on there, and you said if it would 677 00:35:59,150 --> 00:36:00,700 make me happy I should do it... 678 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:02,700 So I did. 679 00:36:02,710 --> 00:36:06,160 Well, I... I don't think I was serious, Ronnie. 680 00:36:06,430 --> 00:36:08,140 Well, okay. 681 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,030 I mean, it didn't show anything that weird, so... 682 00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:14,110 Anyway, I forgot to take it off your car so I did that 683 00:36:14,140 --> 00:36:15,400 this morning. 684 00:36:15,430 --> 00:36:16,820 Thank you. 685 00:36:16,830 --> 00:36:18,160 Mm-hmm. 686 00:36:19,340 --> 00:36:21,470 - Did you get the annulment? - Yep. 687 00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:23,670 Yeah, I did. I... I, you know, signed all 688 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,510 the paperwork, and... 689 00:36:25,540 --> 00:36:26,740 - Good. - Mm-hmm. 690 00:36:26,780 --> 00:36:28,140 What about the will? 691 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,180 I changed the will 692 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,620 and had it notarized, so... 693 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,160 God damn, who is texting you so much? 694 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:37,750 Oh. 695 00:36:37,790 --> 00:36:39,170 Well, I mean, I'm not in the office so, you know, 696 00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:41,490 they're just trying to track me down. 697 00:36:41,530 --> 00:36:44,560 Yep. Speaking of which... 698 00:36:45,700 --> 00:36:46,930 I should go. 699 00:36:46,970 --> 00:36:48,470 Thanks for coming by, sweetie. 700 00:36:48,500 --> 00:36:50,140 - Of course. - Mm. 701 00:36:50,180 --> 00:36:51,440 It's nice. 702 00:36:51,470 --> 00:36:53,070 Oh. 703 00:36:53,110 --> 00:36:55,159 I love you so much. 704 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,160 I love you, too. So much. 705 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,919 Okay, but you're squishing me now. 706 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:01,310 Oh. 707 00:37:01,350 --> 00:37:03,350 God, that was quite the squeeze. 708 00:37:03,380 --> 00:37:05,520 Well, I love you. 709 00:37:05,550 --> 00:37:06,850 Yeah. I'll see you later. 710 00:37:06,890 --> 00:37:09,150 Remember, we're FaceTiming with Terra at 3:00. 711 00:37:09,190 --> 00:37:10,790 - Oh, yes. - So I'll see you then, right? 712 00:37:10,820 --> 00:37:11,879 Okay. 713 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,920 Thank you for this... for the chai. 714 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,890 - Bye. - Bye. 715 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,220 - Ma'am. - Thank you. 716 00:38:21,190 --> 00:38:23,390 When was the last time you spoke to Bobby 717 00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:25,060 prior to the incident? 718 00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,260 That morning, actually, at our house. 719 00:38:27,340 --> 00:38:28,856 He and Toby were staying at our house. 720 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,980 When was the last time that you spoke to Bobby 721 00:38:31,020 --> 00:38:34,750 about the state of his and Cindi's marriage? 722 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:38,060 Um, that was Wednesday the fourth. 723 00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:39,990 Three days before. 724 00:38:40,030 --> 00:38:41,830 What's he like in that conversation? 725 00:38:41,860 --> 00:38:44,260 What's his demeanor? 726 00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:46,530 Oh, he was so upset 727 00:38:46,570 --> 00:38:50,170 and... and crying so hard. 728 00:38:50,210 --> 00:38:52,740 He just felt that things were over between them 729 00:38:52,770 --> 00:38:54,710 and he was so lost. 730 00:38:54,740 --> 00:38:56,540 How long had you been aware, 731 00:38:56,580 --> 00:38:59,010 uh, that the marriage was in trouble? 732 00:38:59,050 --> 00:39:02,300 By the time Cindi spoke to us 733 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,750 it seemed as if things were already very bad. 734 00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:07,520 But when Bobby spoke to me... 735 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,490 um, he seemed completely 736 00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,590 taken by surprise. 737 00:39:11,630 --> 00:39:13,090 Completely surprised, 738 00:39:13,130 --> 00:39:16,260 and he wanted to save it. 739 00:39:16,300 --> 00:39:18,130 Because he loved her. 740 00:39:18,170 --> 00:39:20,070 Oh, so much. 741 00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:22,300 He loved her so much. 742 00:39:22,340 --> 00:39:24,470 Did he tell you any of the things 743 00:39:24,510 --> 00:39:26,770 that he had done to try 744 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,880 and save the marriage? 745 00:39:29,910 --> 00:39:32,580 He, um, had changed some of his behavior. 746 00:39:32,610 --> 00:39:35,150 Um, he went to see 747 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,820 our pastor with her. 748 00:39:36,850 --> 00:39:40,320 They went to counseling... months of counseling. 749 00:39:40,660 --> 00:39:42,890 Um, he agreed to a separation, 750 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,160 agreed to sell their house. 751 00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:48,230 You know, to live separately for perspective 752 00:39:48,260 --> 00:39:50,300 and for... 753 00:39:50,330 --> 00:39:52,770 absence to make her heart 754 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,470 grow fonder. 755 00:39:54,500 --> 00:39:56,500 And, um... 756 00:39:56,540 --> 00:39:58,380 and he spoke to me. 757 00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:02,110 You can imagine, a man having to come 758 00:40:02,140 --> 00:40:04,310 to his mother-in-law for help... 759 00:40:04,350 --> 00:40:06,980 and to cry in front of her. 760 00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:10,320 And did any of the things that he tried work? 761 00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:14,590 No. 762 00:40:14,620 --> 00:40:17,940 Um, he was doing it thinking that he could... 763 00:40:17,950 --> 00:40:21,290 if he did, he could keep Cindi with him, but... 764 00:40:21,330 --> 00:40:24,900 you know, I... I don't think he ever had a chance, 765 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,930 and when he came to realize that... 766 00:40:28,970 --> 00:40:30,380 Prior to the incident, 767 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,670 how did you feel about Bobby? 768 00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:35,710 Oh, I... I loved him. 769 00:40:35,740 --> 00:40:37,120 Loved him very much. 770 00:40:37,150 --> 00:40:40,110 He had such a pure heart. 771 00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:43,150 I mean, his... his whole life was Cindi and Toby. 772 00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:46,220 Um, working for their family, their life together 773 00:40:46,250 --> 00:40:48,420 as a... as a family. 774 00:40:49,390 --> 00:40:51,760 How do you feel about him now? 775 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:55,160 I still love him. 776 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,380 You love him. 777 00:40:58,030 --> 00:41:00,300 - I do. - Even after everything 778 00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:01,700 that happened? 779 00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:06,710 Bobby asked me the same question. 780 00:41:06,740 --> 00:41:09,040 Because it's very difficult to understand, 781 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,080 if not impossible. 782 00:41:13,250 --> 00:41:15,550 Bobby did a... a terrible thing. 783 00:41:18,850 --> 00:41:20,440 The worst thing. 784 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,460 I hate what he did. 785 00:41:24,490 --> 00:41:27,340 And I told him that, I... I did. 786 00:41:28,530 --> 00:41:31,080 But if he had been in his right mind 787 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:32,460 he could never have done that. 788 00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:37,800 So what he did doesn't... 789 00:41:37,970 --> 00:41:40,420 doesn't change what I believe about him. 790 00:41:44,580 --> 00:41:45,860 I can still love Bobby, 791 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,460 and I forgive him... 792 00:41:48,750 --> 00:41:51,140 because I want to forgive him. 793 00:41:51,790 --> 00:41:54,460 Because of what I know. 794 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,360 I know... 795 00:41:58,390 --> 00:42:01,060 his heart was full of love. 796 00:42:03,930 --> 00:42:05,570 He just... 797 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:08,500 he just lost his way. 798 00:42:56,290 --> 00:43:01,290 - Synced & corrected by MementMori - -- www.addic7ed.com -- 55531

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