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911, what's your emergency?
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My cousin's boyfriend is laying in the bedroom.
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His face is bloody.
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He will not answer me.
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It looks like he's been beat up pretty bad.
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And my cousin is gone.
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I don't even know where she's at.
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Okay, Wayne.
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My god.
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Ma'am, I need you to find out if he's breathing.
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I don't think so, and I just saw a knife in his head.
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God.
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You saw a knife in his head?
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Yes. okay, ma'am.
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I need you to clear the area.
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I don't want you to eliminate any evidence, okay?
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Okay. I'm going to go outside.
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Payette is a small town
about an hour away from Boise,
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really close
to the Oregon border.
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It definitely is a small
agricultural community,
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lots of farms, lots of cows.
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It's a real homey feeling.
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This place sucks people in.
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Everybody watches out
for everybody else,
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and most people are related.
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Everything moves a
little bit more slowly here.
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Lots of mosey-ers,
lots of retired people.
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We have generations
that live here,
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so the roots are deep here.
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You know, people walk down
the street and say, "hi" to you,
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and when one of us needs
a helping hand or whatever,
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you know,
we'll just go and help them.
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You just feel safe and like
nothing can disturb
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this little bubble
that we live in.
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I am from payette.
I know this town very well,
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probably a little bit too much.
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In 2012, I transferred
from the patrol division here
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at the payette county
sheriff's office
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to the detective division.
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One of the things I love
the most about my job
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is you to have to strive
to be smarter
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than the people
you're dealing with,
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kind of a fox
and hound type thing.
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On November 7, 2012 a phone call
came in from a female resident
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of payette county,
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advising that there was
a male subject lying on a floor,
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covered in blood and had a knife
sticking out of his head.
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I was the first one
that responded to the incident.
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When I arrived,
there was a female witness
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that was standing out in the
driveway next to her vehicle.
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She stated that she had seen
a male subject
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that resides in that residence
in his room on the floor.
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When you enter the crime scene,
you know, the first thing
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that goes through your mind
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is you need to be watchful
for any evidence
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that you might
disturb or destroy.
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You also have to be mindful that
there could possibly still be
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somebody in this residence
that you could encounter.
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Well, when I went
into the bedroom,
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I observed a large
amount of blood.
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There was casting on the walls
and the ceilings, pictures.
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There was blood on the bed.
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I could see a curtain rod
that was all bent.
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It had blood on it and just
based off of, alone,
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the injuries
inflicted to this victim,
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the likelihood of any
survival was very slim.
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There was no movement.
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There was no pulse.
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And in fact,
the victim was not a male.
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The victim was a female.
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I was kind of born
and raised in payette county.
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It was really a great
childhood for me.
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I had lots of friends,
and it was low-crime.
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You know, it was just
an easygoing place
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to live and grow up.
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Approximately 11:30 at night,
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I got a phone call
from my dispatch center
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informing me of a murder,
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and when I got there,
my deputies informed me
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that it was a female victim
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and the 911 caller was standing
in the driveway with me.
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And so at that point,
I think she knew the victim
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was Elizabeth baune
which was her cousin.
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I went back to my office
about probably 12:30
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and dispatch actually
ran the driver's license,
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and so when I went up
to the dispatch center,
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on the screen was a picture
of Elizabeth baune.
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That's when I first
recognized her as libbi.
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We were actually in the same
class in elementary,
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middle school, and high school.
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We spent a lot of time
together growing up.
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And her maiden name was peutz,
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and so I knew
her as libbi peutz.
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We were good friends.
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When somebody is murdered like
that, we take it very personal.
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We want to find out who did it.
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My first wife was killed
in the line of duty,
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and so I'm a victim
of a homicide.
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And so I understand what
that family went through.
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You know, that 11:00,
midnight knock on the door
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getting you out of bed
to tell you
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that a loved one
has been killed is completely
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and utterly devastating,
and it was for me personally.
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And so me
and the lead investigator
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for the state police
actually made death notification
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to libbi's parents.
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That was probably one of
the most difficult
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death notifications I ever made.
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Our family jokes a lot
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that my oldest sister
is the pretty sister.
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They would tell me I'm the
smart sister,
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and we'd always say
libbi was the kind sister.
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So this is my sister
reading to her nephew.
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She was a big supporter
of literacy and early literacy
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and reading to children,
so that's one of the reasons
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I really love that picture.
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So in November, a little over
4 years ago,
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I was traveling for work,
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so I was actually in Kansas at
a hotel and my cellphone rang.
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It was 5:00 or 5:30
in the morning,
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and it was my mom.
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She just said,
"libbi has been murdered."
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And, you know, I couldn't
believe it and she says,
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"I don't know anything yet.
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I'll call you when I know more."
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And so I immediately got up
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and took a shower
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and got on the Internet
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and was trying to get
a flight out.
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I called my youngest brother
from the airport,
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and when I called him,
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I knew he was on the phone,
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but there was, I mean,
he wasn't saying anything.
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And my sister-in-law
got on the phone and just said,
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"Joey, I'm so sorry.
He cannot talk.
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He physically cannot talk."
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It took me 12 to 14 hours
to get home from Kansas.
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Pretty miserable, being
in the airport by yourself.
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My mom was a teacher
for almost 20 years.
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We can never go anywhere
without running into somebody
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that she knew.
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And it's just that small town.
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We used to ride
our bikes to school
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and walk through ditch roads,
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just walking around,
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exploring old barns and stuff.
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I can remember that morning
almost exactly to the second.
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I was actually living
in Casper, Wyoming.
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I remember waking up to a phone
call rather than my alarm.
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My grandmother, the first
thing she said was,
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"your mom's dead."
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And then I called my younger
brother that was in Casper
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and I told him
he had to come over.
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And all I can remember is
my younger brother showing up
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and we were literally
packing as fast
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as we could to get
back to Idaho.
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I met Liz
when I went to work
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as a family advocate
at head start,
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and she was the teacher
at head start.
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So Liz and I got to work
together for almost 20 years.
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This is a picture of her and me,
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one of our first years
at the head start school.
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Just across through there
where the trees are,
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you can see her house.
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And when the trees was all out,
it was all green
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and that, you couldn't see
but it was winter
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and it was stark then.
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And that's when I could see
the police cars
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and all of the people
and everything, so...
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And they told me it's Liz,
everybody wanted to hug me.
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I just remember trying
not to scream
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and my daughter-in-law
said she was murdered.
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And I just couldn't fathom how
it could happen to somebody like
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Liz because she would
give you anything.
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Obviously, it's
a devastating experience
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to see the victim's
family go through that.
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But I recall libbi's dad saying,
"go get him, boys.
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Go find out who did this
to my daughter."
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And I'll never forget that.
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You think this could
be a robbery.
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It could be a vendetta settle.
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It could be all kinds of things,
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but Elizabeth was murdered in
a very violent and hostile way,
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which your first inclination
is to think anger.
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She was stabbed repeatedly
and part of the blade
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was sticking out of her head
when she was found.
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She had defense wounds
on her arms and hands.
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There was blood on the bed,
shooting out on the floor,
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so there was a lot of time
spent there during this assault.
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Somebody was very angry
with her.
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It just felt like, to me, it was
a personal attack on libbi.
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A significant other,
a family member,
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somebody she worked with,
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but you can't close off
your mind to an investigation,
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think that it's just
somebody from here.
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The 911 caller
was ruled out fairly quickly.
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She had an alibi.
She was at work.
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She'd come home from work
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and those types
of things checked out.
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At this point
in time, what I'm doing
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is I'm trying to obtain
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some kind of grasp
on who could have done this,
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so I need to find out who
has access to this residence.
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I need to find out
who's supposed to be here
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that's not here.
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We learned fairly quickly
that she was engaged to a guy
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by the name of Wayne.
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Wayne was her fiancé.
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They had been living together,
but she had reservations
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off and on about their wedding.
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He used to date my mother
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before he was dating libbi.
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He likes to keep to his own.
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He likes to make his way
and have the things
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that he likes to have.
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At this point
in time,
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we don't
know where Wayne is at.
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He's not in the area.
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So, you know, where is he at?
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Why is he not here
with Elizabeth?
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It makes me think that he's
possibly a suspect
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in this crime.
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Someone murdered a woman
in payette last night.
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Today that county's sheriff
and the state police
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continue their search
for clues
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and the woman's
missing roommate.
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Elizabeth Ann baune died
of multiple wounds.
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How she sustained those wounds
and who inflicted them,
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authorities either
don't know or won't say.
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♪♪
257
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♪♪
258
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♪♪
259
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News of Elizabeth's death
did spread fast
260
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because people did know her.
261
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It's just not something
that happens here.
262
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We're just not used to it.
263
00:13:02,699 --> 00:13:06,584
I heard that Elizabeth
was stabbed 22 times.
264
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She was stabbed 27 times,
I believe.
265
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It was an uneasy feeling
266
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because somebody was
still out on the loose.
267
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♪♪
268
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You don't feel safe anymore.
269
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Was it just one person?
270
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Was it more than one?
271
00:13:22,702 --> 00:13:24,636
It just makes you wonder who
else they're going to murder.
272
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♪♪
273
00:13:31,761 --> 00:13:33,461
They instantly
assumed, of course,
274
00:13:33,463 --> 00:13:34,579
that it's the man
that she was dating,
275
00:13:34,581 --> 00:13:36,631
and that was Wayne buxton.
276
00:13:36,633 --> 00:13:39,217
He was definitely primary
suspect because he was gone.
277
00:13:39,219 --> 00:13:41,603
He was out of town, and he
was definitely primary suspect,
278
00:13:41,605 --> 00:13:42,787
nowhere to be found.
279
00:13:42,789 --> 00:13:51,128
♪♪
280
00:13:51,130 --> 00:13:53,865
We learned fairly quickly
that she was engaged
281
00:13:53,867 --> 00:13:55,333
to a guy by the name of Wayne.
282
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He was a truck driver,
so we wanted to figure out
283
00:13:57,938 --> 00:13:59,954
where Wayne was located.
284
00:13:59,956 --> 00:14:04,209
He was not at the scene and so
there was some phone calls made.
285
00:14:04,211 --> 00:14:06,845
We determined,
based on those phone calls,
286
00:14:06,847 --> 00:14:08,279
through GPS and different things
287
00:14:08,281 --> 00:14:12,016
that he was actually
in a different state
288
00:14:12,018 --> 00:14:13,284
when the incident occurred.
289
00:14:13,286 --> 00:14:16,404
♪♪
290
00:14:16,406 --> 00:14:18,556
I was a person
of interest starting off,
291
00:14:18,558 --> 00:14:21,876
just for the fact
that I was the fiancé.
292
00:14:21,878 --> 00:14:24,796
Kind of pissed me off that
I was even a suspect
293
00:14:24,798 --> 00:14:27,332
because we loved each other.
294
00:14:27,334 --> 00:14:30,535
We were getting married
that Saturday.
295
00:14:30,537 --> 00:14:33,037
Come here, luce,
you're tangled.
296
00:14:33,039 --> 00:14:34,539
Come on.
297
00:14:34,541 --> 00:14:36,608
There you go.
298
00:14:36,610 --> 00:14:40,078
I talked to her at noon.
I was in California.
299
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,381
And then I tried calling her
a little bit after 7:00
300
00:14:43,383 --> 00:14:46,451
as I was just
coming into Nevada.
301
00:14:46,453 --> 00:14:49,520
Didn't get an answer,
and then I believe
302
00:14:49,522 --> 00:14:52,891
it was 1:00 in the morning,
my phone rang,
303
00:14:52,893 --> 00:14:56,427
and it was detective stennett
from the Idaho state police,
304
00:14:56,429 --> 00:15:00,398
and he kept asking me questions
and finally I'm like,
305
00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,001
"what's going on?
You know, what is this?"
306
00:15:03,003 --> 00:15:04,218
And that's when
he finally told me,
307
00:15:04,220 --> 00:15:09,757
"I regret to tell you,
but Elizabeth's dead."
308
00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:11,809
♪♪
309
00:15:11,811 --> 00:15:16,314
It was...
310
00:15:16,316 --> 00:15:18,333
Just unbelievable.
311
00:15:18,335 --> 00:15:23,855
♪♪
312
00:15:23,857 --> 00:15:25,540
Wayne is no longer a suspect.
313
00:15:25,542 --> 00:15:27,625
He has an alibi
for where he was at.
314
00:15:27,627 --> 00:15:30,612
So at this point in time,
I'm looking for other suspects.
315
00:15:30,614 --> 00:15:33,298
♪♪
316
00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:34,382
We spent a lot of time in here,
317
00:15:34,384 --> 00:15:36,868
in the dining room
with family dinners,
318
00:15:36,870 --> 00:15:38,603
and this is one of her
senior pictures
319
00:15:38,605 --> 00:15:40,171
that her family gave me.
320
00:15:40,173 --> 00:15:42,874
♪♪
321
00:15:42,876 --> 00:15:44,976
Libbi was
a good big sister.
322
00:15:44,978 --> 00:15:46,911
She was always
taking care of people.
323
00:15:46,913 --> 00:15:51,015
She had taken in my cousin and
then she had allowed her son,
324
00:15:51,017 --> 00:15:53,184
Michael, to move in.
325
00:15:53,186 --> 00:15:56,487
I think she was truly just born
with a big heart.
326
00:15:56,489 --> 00:15:59,474
♪♪
327
00:15:59,476 --> 00:16:01,592
She would give you
her shirt off her back
328
00:16:01,594 --> 00:16:02,961
if she needed to.
329
00:16:02,963 --> 00:16:04,429
She was so kind to everybody.
330
00:16:04,431 --> 00:16:07,882
I don't think I saw
a mean bone in her.
331
00:16:07,884 --> 00:16:11,085
She would go to work,
if the kids didn't have a lunch,
332
00:16:11,087 --> 00:16:12,887
she would pack some extra food
333
00:16:12,889 --> 00:16:16,190
or she would give them
a little extra help
334
00:16:16,192 --> 00:16:19,794
trying to get them the help they
needed to have a better life.
335
00:16:19,796 --> 00:16:22,146
♪♪
336
00:16:22,148 --> 00:16:27,018
Anyway, it was like one of
our rooms we hung out in.
337
00:16:27,020 --> 00:16:29,887
Liz used to always
play pranks on my husband.
338
00:16:29,889 --> 00:16:33,358
So she showed up one day and
she had her hand under her coat.
339
00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,760
And she's making,
"aw, baby, baby,"
340
00:16:35,762 --> 00:16:39,130
and she's petting her coat
and she's begging my husband,
341
00:16:39,132 --> 00:16:41,766
"please let me leave this kitten
here, just for a little while."
342
00:16:41,768 --> 00:16:44,652
Finally, he said, "well,
okay, but it can't stay."
343
00:16:44,654 --> 00:16:47,021
So she says, "okay,"
and she pulls
344
00:16:47,023 --> 00:16:49,273
this little white
plastic cat and hands him.
345
00:16:50,710 --> 00:16:54,912
So they were always laughing
and enjoying each other, so...
346
00:16:56,082 --> 00:16:57,682
She says,
"I hear them talking about Liz,"
347
00:16:57,684 --> 00:16:58,816
and she loved Liz.
348
00:16:59,786 --> 00:17:00,852
Animals loved Liz.
349
00:17:00,854 --> 00:17:03,888
Little kids loved her.
350
00:17:03,890 --> 00:17:06,357
I loved her.
351
00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:07,625
So, anyway.
352
00:17:07,627 --> 00:17:14,232
♪♪
353
00:17:14,234 --> 00:17:20,838
♪♪
354
00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:27,445
♪♪
355
00:17:27,447 --> 00:17:29,047
The residence where
the homicide took place
356
00:17:29,049 --> 00:17:32,083
is on a dead-end street north
of payette city limits.
357
00:17:32,085 --> 00:17:37,822
It's maybe 300 yards
long off of highway 95.
358
00:17:37,824 --> 00:17:40,124
This is the residence
here on the left.
359
00:17:40,126 --> 00:17:46,664
♪♪
360
00:17:46,666 --> 00:17:49,400
In speaking with the witness,
something that I had learned
361
00:17:49,402 --> 00:17:51,803
while being at the crime scene
is there was a white
362
00:17:51,805 --> 00:17:55,523
dodge truck and a 2002,
I believe, Honda
363
00:17:55,525 --> 00:17:59,010
passport that were missing
from the residence.
364
00:17:59,012 --> 00:18:01,913
So we began searching
for any vehicles
365
00:18:01,915 --> 00:18:04,715
registered to Elizabeth baune
or her boyfriend,
366
00:18:04,717 --> 00:18:06,651
who we were trying to locate.
367
00:18:06,653 --> 00:18:09,454
♪♪
368
00:18:09,456 --> 00:18:11,756
Some of the physical evidence
left inside the house --
369
00:18:11,758 --> 00:18:15,426
when my deputies arrived,
they noticed footprints,
370
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:19,063
shoe prints,
throughout the house,
371
00:18:19,065 --> 00:18:22,533
and it was shoe prints
with blood being the print.
372
00:18:22,535 --> 00:18:26,771
♪♪
373
00:18:26,773 --> 00:18:29,073
There's one of the footprints
that were on the floor.
374
00:18:29,075 --> 00:18:31,259
♪♪
375
00:18:31,261 --> 00:18:35,129
The footprints appeared to have
a weird structure to them
376
00:18:35,131 --> 00:18:37,031
to where there was
a tip of a footprint
377
00:18:37,033 --> 00:18:38,566
and a heel of a footprint,
378
00:18:38,568 --> 00:18:42,520
but no footprint really for the
middle part of the shoe itself,
379
00:18:42,522 --> 00:18:43,921
as you would normally see.
380
00:18:43,923 --> 00:18:47,108
That makes me think
that the actual print
381
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:49,610
that the shoe would leave
was covered up by something.
382
00:18:49,612 --> 00:18:54,365
♪♪
383
00:18:54,367 --> 00:18:59,153
This homicide was probably
the bloodiest that I have seen.
384
00:18:59,155 --> 00:19:00,438
This is the kitchen sink.
385
00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,607
It appeared that whoever
had done this had washed up
386
00:19:02,609 --> 00:19:04,909
or attempted to get rid
of some of the evidence.
387
00:19:04,911 --> 00:19:06,527
There's some blood here.
388
00:19:06,529 --> 00:19:10,548
Some of the water droplets here
actually have blood in them.
389
00:19:10,550 --> 00:19:14,051
This is blood droplets
on the counter.
390
00:19:14,053 --> 00:19:15,386
The footprints in the residence
391
00:19:15,388 --> 00:19:19,023
exited the bedroom
where the victim was,
392
00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:21,409
went into the laundry room,
which is here.
393
00:19:21,411 --> 00:19:23,427
They had actually turned
into the kitchen, as well.
394
00:19:23,429 --> 00:19:26,447
They went to the kitchen
and also led out the back door.
395
00:19:26,449 --> 00:19:29,800
♪♪
396
00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:32,370
This was a blood
droplet out the back door.
397
00:19:32,372 --> 00:19:33,538
Covering their tracks, you know,
398
00:19:33,540 --> 00:19:34,839
the impression that
a shoe would leave
399
00:19:34,841 --> 00:19:36,174
and washing their hands
400
00:19:36,176 --> 00:19:38,409
would make me speculate
401
00:19:38,411 --> 00:19:42,813
that they, in fact,
entered the residence
402
00:19:42,815 --> 00:19:45,616
attempting to not leave
any specific trace
403
00:19:45,618 --> 00:19:47,851
that would tie them
to that scene.
404
00:19:47,853 --> 00:19:52,823
♪♪
405
00:19:52,825 --> 00:19:58,162
♪♪
406
00:19:58,164 --> 00:20:00,765
It's a little scary
when a suspect is ruled out
407
00:20:00,767 --> 00:20:02,650
and you still don't have
anybody apprehended.
408
00:20:02,652 --> 00:20:03,968
It's scary.
409
00:20:03,970 --> 00:20:09,156
♪♪
410
00:20:09,158 --> 00:20:12,310
It just makes me feel
so concerned that somebody like
411
00:20:12,312 --> 00:20:14,078
that would be in our quiet town
412
00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,348
where, you know,
everybody knows everybody.
413
00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:19,016
Apparently, everybody
doesn't know everybody,
414
00:20:19,018 --> 00:20:20,751
even though we think we do.
415
00:20:20,753 --> 00:20:21,919
It scares you.
416
00:20:21,921 --> 00:20:25,189
It makes you think that
you're not as safe
417
00:20:25,191 --> 00:20:26,891
and secure as you
thought you were.
418
00:20:26,893 --> 00:20:29,860
So now that they're back
to square one
419
00:20:29,862 --> 00:20:32,329
and now they still have
no answers,
420
00:20:32,331 --> 00:20:36,267
I think we're all uneasy because
somebody's still out there.
421
00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:41,339
♪♪
422
00:20:46,930 --> 00:20:51,866
♪♪
423
00:20:51,868 --> 00:20:54,819
I first found out about
the murder
424
00:20:54,821 --> 00:20:58,072
when I was riding my bike
just past that school
425
00:20:58,074 --> 00:21:00,374
and I just saw a bunch
of signs out saying,
426
00:21:00,376 --> 00:21:02,743
"we'll miss you," and balloons
427
00:21:02,745 --> 00:21:04,045
and just all of this stuff
428
00:21:04,047 --> 00:21:07,581
that made me think
that somebody died.
429
00:21:07,583 --> 00:21:08,749
We all went up
to the school
430
00:21:08,751 --> 00:21:10,851
and everybody started
coming to work and stuff
431
00:21:10,853 --> 00:21:13,054
and then everybody found out,
432
00:21:13,056 --> 00:21:17,325
and I was just --
I was in shock for days.
433
00:21:17,327 --> 00:21:20,845
I was so mad.
434
00:21:20,847 --> 00:21:22,330
They started
a little memorial
435
00:21:22,332 --> 00:21:24,015
up to the school,
436
00:21:24,017 --> 00:21:26,284
and people were coming
and leaving flowers
437
00:21:26,286 --> 00:21:28,836
and leaving little
mementos and memorials.
438
00:21:28,838 --> 00:21:30,938
I just remember trying to be
brave and comfort them
439
00:21:30,940 --> 00:21:32,473
because they were coming crying
440
00:21:32,475 --> 00:21:34,208
because they'd
lost their teacher.
441
00:21:34,210 --> 00:21:38,445
She had the right combination
of truly caring
442
00:21:38,447 --> 00:21:41,782
about their education
and working very, very hard
443
00:21:41,784 --> 00:21:43,801
to make sure that
they were learning
444
00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:48,489
but also caring deeply
about their families.
445
00:21:48,491 --> 00:21:52,009
The town lost
a great teacher.
446
00:21:52,011 --> 00:21:54,845
How do you explain that
to a little kid,
447
00:21:54,847 --> 00:21:57,832
that their teacher is
never coming back again?
448
00:21:57,834 --> 00:22:06,624
♪♪
449
00:22:06,626 --> 00:22:15,433
♪♪
450
00:22:15,435 --> 00:22:18,552
After learning that Wayne was
no longer a suspect in this,
451
00:22:18,554 --> 00:22:20,721
you're really just looking for
a ghost at that point in time.
452
00:22:20,723 --> 00:22:25,626
You're looking for
something to chase down.
453
00:22:25,628 --> 00:22:27,127
So everybody had a job
to do,
454
00:22:27,129 --> 00:22:29,380
whether it was
checking bank records,
455
00:22:29,382 --> 00:22:32,733
checking phone records,
interviewing people.
456
00:22:32,735 --> 00:22:34,035
We have
the interstate
457
00:22:34,037 --> 00:22:35,436
that runs through our county.
458
00:22:35,438 --> 00:22:37,588
There's a lot of crime that
happens on that interstate,
459
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:39,874
anything from human trafficking
460
00:22:39,876 --> 00:22:42,393
to drug smuggling,
vehicle thefts.
461
00:22:42,395 --> 00:22:45,046
There was, in fact, vehicles
missing from the residence,
462
00:22:45,048 --> 00:22:48,883
so this could have certainly
been a burglary gone wrong.
463
00:22:48,885 --> 00:22:50,618
Liz lived on the highway.
464
00:22:50,620 --> 00:22:52,887
There's crazy people going up
and down these highways,
465
00:22:52,889 --> 00:22:54,488
you know,
and they take the side roads
466
00:22:54,490 --> 00:22:57,625
if they're trying to evade
law enforcement or something,
467
00:22:57,627 --> 00:22:58,893
so I'm thinking somebody
468
00:22:58,895 --> 00:23:01,962
probably stopped there
to steal from her.
469
00:23:01,964 --> 00:23:06,534
I did wonder if it could have
been a random break-in,
470
00:23:06,536 --> 00:23:10,588
someone looking
for items in the house.
471
00:23:10,590 --> 00:23:12,006
My sister was very trusting
472
00:23:12,008 --> 00:23:14,158
and she didn't keep
her doors locked.
473
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,896
♪♪
474
00:23:18,898 --> 00:23:21,949
When I got the call
that Elizabeth was dead,
475
00:23:21,951 --> 00:23:24,485
I just -- I was in disbelief.
476
00:23:24,487 --> 00:23:29,090
I just couldn't believe that
something like that
477
00:23:29,092 --> 00:23:31,425
had happened,
especially to libbi.
478
00:23:31,427 --> 00:23:33,861
♪♪
479
00:23:33,863 --> 00:23:37,765
Jumped up, got dressed,
fueled up my truck,
480
00:23:37,767 --> 00:23:39,100
called up dispatch
and told them,
481
00:23:39,102 --> 00:23:41,068
"I'm not stopping
until I get back."
482
00:23:41,070 --> 00:23:43,938
♪♪
483
00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:46,440
Got here just a little bit
before 8:00 in the morning,
484
00:23:46,442 --> 00:23:49,310
went over to the courthouse
and talked to the detectives.
485
00:23:49,312 --> 00:23:52,213
In talking with Wayne,
they discovered that some items
486
00:23:52,215 --> 00:23:54,899
were missing
from libbi's bedroom.
487
00:23:54,901 --> 00:23:58,619
♪♪
488
00:23:58,621 --> 00:24:01,956
They took some rare coins,
some electronics.
489
00:24:01,958 --> 00:24:04,058
There was a bank card that was
missing from the residence.
490
00:24:04,060 --> 00:24:06,393
That bank card had been used
at one of our local banks here
491
00:24:06,395 --> 00:24:11,198
in payette to withdraw money
from Wayne buxton's account.
492
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,968
At that time, we contacted
the bank for the video footage
493
00:24:13,970 --> 00:24:16,403
that they had gotten
from the atm camera.
494
00:24:16,405 --> 00:24:18,105
In the meantime,
the bank that they had
495
00:24:18,107 --> 00:24:19,507
actually used the credit card
496
00:24:19,509 --> 00:24:22,143
at was just across the street
from the hardware store.
497
00:24:22,145 --> 00:24:26,714
♪♪
498
00:24:26,716 --> 00:24:28,883
Owning
the local hardware store,
499
00:24:28,885 --> 00:24:30,951
people know me very well.
500
00:24:30,953 --> 00:24:32,720
Sometimes they won't
even call the store.
501
00:24:32,722 --> 00:24:34,655
They'll call my personal
phone number,
502
00:24:34,657 --> 00:24:37,124
looking for things
after I close,
503
00:24:37,126 --> 00:24:40,294
and we open up and we help them
with what they need.
504
00:24:40,296 --> 00:24:42,062
And that's just the community.
505
00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:45,933
♪♪
506
00:24:45,935 --> 00:24:50,137
I think we found out
sometime that morning
507
00:24:50,139 --> 00:24:52,373
that Elizabeth
had been murdered.
508
00:24:52,375 --> 00:24:55,776
♪♪
509
00:24:55,778 --> 00:24:57,678
And then later
on that afternoon,
510
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,865
the police showed up looking
for surveillance footage,
511
00:25:00,867 --> 00:25:03,150
if we had any
and they were like,
512
00:25:03,152 --> 00:25:06,120
"well, do you have a dumpster?"
513
00:25:06,122 --> 00:25:10,124
So this is our dumpster
out back of the store.
514
00:25:10,126 --> 00:25:16,864
So, this was where they found
the clothes and the shoes.
515
00:25:16,866 --> 00:25:19,400
The detectives crawled in.
516
00:25:19,402 --> 00:25:22,703
One of them stood out here
and the other one crawled in
517
00:25:22,705 --> 00:25:25,973
and kind of was digging around
518
00:25:25,975 --> 00:25:31,145
and found the evidence in a bag
that was inside the dumpster.
519
00:25:31,147 --> 00:25:38,919
♪♪
520
00:25:38,921 --> 00:25:40,821
The clothing located
in the dumpster
521
00:25:40,823 --> 00:25:42,823
behind the local
hardware store here
522
00:25:42,825 --> 00:25:45,626
contained blood evidence
from the crime scene.
523
00:25:45,628 --> 00:25:51,365
♪♪
524
00:25:51,367 --> 00:25:57,471
♪♪
525
00:25:57,473 --> 00:25:59,623
One of the two vehicles missing
from the residence
526
00:25:59,625 --> 00:26:01,642
was Wayne's truck.
527
00:26:01,644 --> 00:26:04,762
Wayne's truck was actually
driven by Wayne to work.
528
00:26:04,764 --> 00:26:08,582
The other vehicle was
a blue Honda passport.
529
00:26:08,584 --> 00:26:11,018
This vehicle was located
approximately one block
530
00:26:11,020 --> 00:26:14,171
from the sheriff's office
in an alley behind a church.
531
00:26:14,173 --> 00:26:16,557
♪♪
532
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,860
Inside the Honda,
we did locate blood evidence
533
00:26:19,862 --> 00:26:21,362
from the crime scene,
534
00:26:21,364 --> 00:26:24,598
along with a purse and a wallet
that did belong to the victim.
535
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,035
They also discovered another set
of clothes next to her vehicle
536
00:26:28,037 --> 00:26:30,771
that contained blood evidence.
537
00:26:30,773 --> 00:26:33,173
Also, the follow-up
investigators at the residence
538
00:26:33,175 --> 00:26:36,777
did locate two separate sets of
footprints within the residence.
539
00:26:36,779 --> 00:26:38,796
That makes me think that there
would be more than one person
540
00:26:38,798 --> 00:26:41,165
that was at the residence
at the time of the incident.
541
00:26:41,167 --> 00:26:48,155
♪♪
542
00:26:48,157 --> 00:26:52,726
So when the local bank sent
photos from the atm machine
543
00:26:52,728 --> 00:26:55,863
taken of the person
that had used the card,
544
00:26:55,865 --> 00:27:01,302
we're expecting to see
two male suspects.
545
00:27:01,304 --> 00:27:03,604
The video depicted a female
that had withdrawn money
546
00:27:03,606 --> 00:27:05,906
on Wayne's card.
547
00:27:05,908 --> 00:27:09,043
We were wondering, "who is she?
Why does she have Wayne's card?"
548
00:27:09,045 --> 00:27:10,611
I mean, it could have been
that her boyfriend
549
00:27:10,613 --> 00:27:12,663
had entered this residence
and done this,
550
00:27:12,665 --> 00:27:15,599
and she was just doing the
cash transaction from the card.
551
00:27:15,601 --> 00:27:18,519
I mean, all of a sudden, you get
a curveball thrown at you,
552
00:27:18,521 --> 00:27:21,088
that this may not be
who you think it is.
553
00:27:32,568 --> 00:27:39,173
♪♪
554
00:27:39,175 --> 00:27:45,713
♪♪
555
00:27:45,715 --> 00:27:46,847
When you're thinking
something
556
00:27:46,849 --> 00:27:48,248
and then all of a sudden,
557
00:27:48,250 --> 00:27:49,717
you get a curveball
thrown at you,
558
00:27:49,719 --> 00:27:51,185
it can kind of
throw you off track
559
00:27:51,187 --> 00:27:53,120
and make you feel like all
the steps that you've taken are,
560
00:27:53,122 --> 00:27:58,125
in fact, the wrong steps
in the wrong direction.
561
00:27:58,127 --> 00:28:00,194
I would never think
a woman could be capable.
562
00:28:00,196 --> 00:28:03,831
I guess you just always assume
that crimes like this
563
00:28:03,833 --> 00:28:05,099
are committed by men,
564
00:28:05,101 --> 00:28:08,419
but, you know, I guess women
can be just as evil.
565
00:28:08,421 --> 00:28:10,837
You know, why wouldn't
a woman be capable?
566
00:28:10,839 --> 00:28:13,374
♪♪
567
00:28:13,376 --> 00:28:16,710
I don't think anger
has a gender, I really don't.
568
00:28:16,712 --> 00:28:20,447
That kind of brutality
is in lots of people.
569
00:28:20,449 --> 00:28:23,467
I couldn't visualize
anybody in the world
570
00:28:23,469 --> 00:28:25,269
in their right mind
571
00:28:25,271 --> 00:28:26,954
that would do that
to anybody,
572
00:28:26,956 --> 00:28:30,257
let alone Liz or anybody
that would have known Liz.
573
00:28:30,259 --> 00:28:36,797
♪♪
574
00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:43,337
♪♪
575
00:28:43,339 --> 00:28:49,877
♪♪
576
00:28:49,879 --> 00:28:52,362
So when we saw the photo,
577
00:28:52,364 --> 00:28:54,164
we contacted the bank and said,
578
00:28:54,166 --> 00:28:55,816
"are you sure that you've got
579
00:28:55,818 --> 00:28:58,952
the right time
that we requested?"
580
00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:01,972
And they said, "whoops,
we got the wrong time."
581
00:29:01,974 --> 00:29:03,857
♪♪
582
00:29:03,859 --> 00:29:05,559
It turned out
that it was, in fact,
583
00:29:05,561 --> 00:29:09,463
not the right person
that had used his card.
584
00:29:09,465 --> 00:29:12,266
When given the right time frame,
it was two male subjects
585
00:29:12,268 --> 00:29:15,268
that had taken the money
from Wayne's account.
586
00:29:15,270 --> 00:29:21,175
♪♪
587
00:29:21,177 --> 00:29:27,047
♪♪
588
00:29:27,049 --> 00:29:29,850
The detectives had me
come into their office
589
00:29:29,852 --> 00:29:37,224
and look at the atm footage to
see if I knew who was on there.
590
00:29:37,226 --> 00:29:40,060
And they showed me a picture
of an hispanic kid.
591
00:29:40,062 --> 00:29:42,529
I had no idea who he was.
592
00:29:42,531 --> 00:29:44,198
I'd never seen him before.
593
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,467
♪♪
594
00:29:46,469 --> 00:29:50,938
Then they showed me
a picture of another kid,
595
00:29:50,940 --> 00:29:54,575
and it just completely
blew me away.
596
00:29:54,577 --> 00:29:58,445
It was Michael culley,
libbi's second cousin.
597
00:29:58,447 --> 00:30:06,019
♪♪
598
00:30:06,021 --> 00:30:07,554
Come on, Lucy.
599
00:30:07,556 --> 00:30:11,942
Michael culley was more
or less my adopted nephew.
600
00:30:11,944 --> 00:30:13,844
I'd known him his entire life.
601
00:30:13,846 --> 00:30:16,963
I mean, I bought clothes for him
when he needed clothes.
602
00:30:16,965 --> 00:30:19,950
I bought food for his family
when they needed food.
603
00:30:19,952 --> 00:30:23,320
Libbi helped him and
gave him a place to stay.
604
00:30:23,322 --> 00:30:25,706
♪♪
605
00:30:25,708 --> 00:30:26,907
She honestly
never told me
606
00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:30,394
that she let Brenda
and Mike live with them
607
00:30:30,396 --> 00:30:33,413
because she knew
how opposed I was from
608
00:30:33,415 --> 00:30:35,649
when I let him live with me.
609
00:30:35,651 --> 00:30:38,986
He stole from me
and then actually got me
610
00:30:38,988 --> 00:30:42,689
fired from my job.
611
00:30:42,691 --> 00:30:46,226
He had been on drugs,
and prior to this,
612
00:30:46,228 --> 00:30:49,997
Michael had gone in
and taken her laptop
613
00:30:49,999 --> 00:30:52,699
and stolen her laptop.
614
00:30:52,701 --> 00:30:55,402
I would expect him
to steal from her, yes.
615
00:30:55,404 --> 00:30:58,605
I'd expect him to lie to her.
616
00:30:58,607 --> 00:31:01,642
I would never expect him
to do anything like that.
617
00:31:01,644 --> 00:31:06,880
♪♪
618
00:31:06,882 --> 00:31:09,066
Michael was my
best friend since second grade
619
00:31:09,068 --> 00:31:10,968
and, you know, we just,
we grew up together.
620
00:31:10,970 --> 00:31:12,636
We got in trouble together.
621
00:31:12,638 --> 00:31:15,989
He was my best friend,
plain and simple.
622
00:31:15,991 --> 00:31:19,159
I didn't find out what happened
until the cops were at my door,
623
00:31:19,161 --> 00:31:22,212
knocking on my door asking
questions about where's Michael.
624
00:31:22,214 --> 00:31:24,364
♪♪
625
00:31:24,366 --> 00:31:26,099
And then I was kind of
puzzled at the time
626
00:31:26,101 --> 00:31:27,301
because I didn't know
what had happened,
627
00:31:27,303 --> 00:31:29,102
but when they started
me asking questions
628
00:31:29,104 --> 00:31:31,405
about Wayne and libbi
and things like that,
629
00:31:31,407 --> 00:31:33,957
I got a hold of Wayne
and found out what was going on.
630
00:31:33,959 --> 00:31:35,275
It just shocked
the hell out of me
631
00:31:35,277 --> 00:31:37,477
because a week before
this had happened,
632
00:31:37,479 --> 00:31:39,263
he was living with me.
633
00:31:39,265 --> 00:31:41,031
I had given him a place to stay,
634
00:31:41,033 --> 00:31:42,366
but I'd kicked him
out of my house
635
00:31:42,368 --> 00:31:44,117
because he was using
drugs with my wife
636
00:31:44,119 --> 00:31:47,020
while I was working
graveyard shift.
637
00:31:47,022 --> 00:31:48,171
They did show me the picture.
638
00:31:48,173 --> 00:31:50,190
It was a mugshot,
identified him as Michael,
639
00:31:50,192 --> 00:31:52,926
and when we were living
in payette together,
640
00:31:52,928 --> 00:31:56,663
he had brought somebody over
to my house, some hispanic man.
641
00:31:56,665 --> 00:31:59,316
I told the police that that
looks a lot like the man
642
00:31:59,318 --> 00:32:01,351
that Michael had brought over
to my house that night.
643
00:32:01,353 --> 00:32:02,603
And they called him "Johnny."
644
00:32:02,605 --> 00:32:03,870
His name was Johnny.
645
00:32:03,872 --> 00:32:06,073
So the photos from
the atm machine
646
00:32:06,075 --> 00:32:08,375
were determined
to be Michael culley
647
00:32:08,377 --> 00:32:12,763
and a young man by the name
of Jonathan Hernandez, Johnny.
648
00:32:12,765 --> 00:32:15,198
♪♪
649
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,318
And so we were all looking
for those two people.
650
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,388
You start looking for
vehicles not acting right.
651
00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:23,357
You're looking for anything
that stands out.
652
00:32:23,359 --> 00:32:26,093
That evening, I drove all
around looking for Michael,
653
00:32:26,095 --> 00:32:29,663
and I drove places that I knew
the people that used
654
00:32:29,665 --> 00:32:31,315
and did drugs and stuff lived.
655
00:32:31,317 --> 00:32:34,334
I drove through those areas.
656
00:32:34,336 --> 00:32:37,154
A couple of days later,
Liz's youngest son and his wife
657
00:32:37,156 --> 00:32:40,607
has gone out to Ontario
to get flowers.
658
00:32:40,609 --> 00:32:44,077
My phone rang,
and it was libbi's son
659
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:47,047
and daughter-in-law and
they said that they saw Mike.
660
00:32:47,049 --> 00:32:50,350
They found him, and one
of her sons was chasing him.
661
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:10,921
♪♪
662
00:33:12,808 --> 00:33:17,577
♪♪
663
00:33:17,579 --> 00:33:20,914
The person that actually
caught Michael was Chris.
664
00:33:20,916 --> 00:33:22,632
Chris is my younger brother.
665
00:33:22,634 --> 00:33:26,820
Liz's son and his wife seen
Michael coming down the street,
666
00:33:26,822 --> 00:33:28,889
and so they pulled
over real fast
667
00:33:28,891 --> 00:33:30,624
and he ran back
and chased him.
668
00:33:30,626 --> 00:33:32,626
And he took off running
to the truck stop,
669
00:33:32,628 --> 00:33:34,327
screaming for them
to call the police
670
00:33:34,329 --> 00:33:37,130
because someone is after him.
671
00:33:37,132 --> 00:33:41,034
♪♪
672
00:33:41,036 --> 00:33:44,504
Michael culley
actually entered the gas station
673
00:33:44,506 --> 00:33:46,606
and called for
law enforcement
674
00:33:46,608 --> 00:33:48,775
because he was afraid
that the victim's son
675
00:33:48,777 --> 00:33:52,079
was going to harm him.
676
00:33:52,081 --> 00:33:54,715
So here's a kid
wanted for murder
677
00:33:54,717 --> 00:33:58,402
telling people to call
the police to protect him.
678
00:33:58,404 --> 00:34:02,823
And when they realized
what was going on,
679
00:34:02,825 --> 00:34:06,093
some of the employees
and some truckers
680
00:34:06,095 --> 00:34:09,362
kept Mike in a little
arcade over here,
681
00:34:09,364 --> 00:34:11,531
and then some other
employees and truckers
682
00:34:11,533 --> 00:34:15,936
kept libbi's son outside
of the truck stop.
683
00:34:15,938 --> 00:34:19,606
And I guess there was a lot
of police officers
684
00:34:19,608 --> 00:34:20,674
that showed up real quick
685
00:34:20,676 --> 00:34:24,177
because everybody
was looking for him,
686
00:34:24,179 --> 00:34:25,479
and they hauled him off.
687
00:34:25,481 --> 00:34:28,949
♪♪
688
00:34:28,951 --> 00:34:30,751
It wasn't too long later,
689
00:34:30,753 --> 00:34:35,422
they went to Hernandez's house
and arrested him.
690
00:34:35,424 --> 00:34:42,596
♪♪
691
00:34:46,769 --> 00:34:49,136
When he was caught,
I wanted to kill him
692
00:34:49,138 --> 00:34:54,407
but I also wanted to talk
to him and ask, "why?"
693
00:34:54,409 --> 00:35:00,413
♪♪
694
00:35:00,415 --> 00:35:05,652
♪♪
695
00:35:05,654 --> 00:35:07,337
From my understanding,
696
00:35:07,339 --> 00:35:10,257
they wanted
to steal my valuable stuff
697
00:35:10,259 --> 00:35:13,660
so they could sell it
and get drugs,
698
00:35:13,662 --> 00:35:19,282
and they actually put
duct tape on their shoes
699
00:35:19,284 --> 00:35:21,051
so they wouldn't
leave footprints.
700
00:35:21,053 --> 00:35:26,540
♪♪
701
00:35:26,542 --> 00:35:29,376
Well, libbi was in the room
asleep,
702
00:35:29,378 --> 00:35:32,279
and culley figured
he could sneak in
703
00:35:32,281 --> 00:35:34,414
and sneak out
without waking her up.
704
00:35:34,416 --> 00:35:41,822
♪♪
705
00:35:41,824 --> 00:35:45,859
"But she woke up and things
went wrong," is how he put it.
706
00:35:45,861 --> 00:35:48,478
♪♪
707
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,030
The assault was very violent.
708
00:35:50,032 --> 00:35:52,599
♪♪
709
00:35:52,601 --> 00:35:55,802
She was beat with the curtain
rod, casting blood on the bed,
710
00:35:55,804 --> 00:35:58,238
on the walls,
on the ceilings, pictures.
711
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:00,090
They hit her
with a hammer
712
00:36:00,092 --> 00:36:01,992
and they stabbed
her a bunch of times
713
00:36:01,994 --> 00:36:04,911
and then I know that
they used a kitchen knife,
714
00:36:04,913 --> 00:36:06,246
stuck her through the head.
715
00:36:10,269 --> 00:36:12,302
I believe they stole
the vehicle
716
00:36:12,304 --> 00:36:15,372
just because
they were so bloody.
717
00:36:15,374 --> 00:36:17,541
You know, there was
blood all over.
718
00:36:17,543 --> 00:36:25,949
♪♪
719
00:36:25,951 --> 00:36:33,540
♪♪
720
00:36:33,542 --> 00:36:36,142
We met once,
quite a few years ago,
721
00:36:36,144 --> 00:36:41,581
and then we met again
and we just clicked.
722
00:36:41,583 --> 00:36:44,484
She was just a great person,
and her little smile and giggle
723
00:36:44,486 --> 00:36:47,587
was just something to see.
724
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:50,357
It was --
725
00:36:50,359 --> 00:36:51,992
I miss her tremendously.
726
00:36:51,994 --> 00:36:55,362
I'll...
727
00:36:55,364 --> 00:36:58,832
She was
the love of my life.
728
00:36:58,834 --> 00:37:01,735
Life is not forever, love is.
729
00:37:01,737 --> 00:37:03,736
♪♪
730
00:37:03,738 --> 00:37:05,755
She loved everybody.
731
00:37:08,477 --> 00:37:14,397
♪♪
732
00:37:14,399 --> 00:37:20,337
♪♪
733
00:37:20,339 --> 00:37:23,023
The state police detectives
interviewed Mr. Culley,
734
00:37:23,025 --> 00:37:28,578
so they had a pretty
good statement from him.
735
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:31,197
He said the other person
made him do it.
736
00:37:31,199 --> 00:37:32,465
Let me tell you what.
737
00:37:32,467 --> 00:37:34,067
I think he's twice as big
as the other person.
738
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:36,136
That's bull crap.
739
00:37:36,138 --> 00:37:38,037
No. I... no.
740
00:37:38,039 --> 00:37:40,707
Each one says
a different story,
741
00:37:40,709 --> 00:37:44,778
but culley did admit
that he is the one
742
00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:47,864
that stabbed
her through her head.
743
00:37:47,866 --> 00:37:50,650
His explanation was,
"to put her out of her misery."
744
00:37:50,652 --> 00:37:53,620
♪♪
745
00:37:53,622 --> 00:37:56,556
They needed money.
746
00:37:56,558 --> 00:37:59,392
They needed money for dope and
they killed Elizabeth to get it.
747
00:37:59,394 --> 00:38:01,244
♪♪
748
00:38:01,246 --> 00:38:02,862
We couldn't go to trial
with Michael
749
00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:07,917
because I knew that it would put
a hard strain on our family
750
00:38:07,919 --> 00:38:11,921
going through
exactly every detail.
751
00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:15,425
We decided to take
a plea deal,
752
00:38:15,427 --> 00:38:17,260
and so it wasn't a trial,
753
00:38:17,262 --> 00:38:18,928
but it was a sentencing.
754
00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:22,915
The judge stated that he felt
that neither man should be out
755
00:38:22,917 --> 00:38:24,801
before they were 60 years old.
756
00:38:24,803 --> 00:38:28,305
♪♪
757
00:38:28,307 --> 00:38:30,307
Both Jonathan Hernandez
and Michael culley
758
00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:32,359
got 45 years to life.
759
00:38:33,362 --> 00:38:39,316
♪♪
760
00:38:39,318 --> 00:38:43,536
I still can't believe
she's gone.
761
00:38:43,538 --> 00:38:45,488
I still hope she'll come
walking through the door.
762
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:46,656
I know it will never happen,
763
00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:49,959
but you always get
that little fantasy.
764
00:38:49,961 --> 00:38:51,461
It's like, yeah.
765
00:38:51,463 --> 00:38:53,246
She's just going to
come through.
766
00:38:53,248 --> 00:38:56,716
♪♪
767
00:38:56,718 --> 00:39:00,286
It really is hard
to have closure.
768
00:39:00,288 --> 00:39:04,124
I still miss my mom.
769
00:39:04,126 --> 00:39:09,346
The biggest parts are, she never
got to meet her grandson.
770
00:39:09,348 --> 00:39:11,931
She never will.
771
00:39:13,769 --> 00:39:18,238
Yeah. There is a lot of things
I miss.
772
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,574
My sister
became a grandmother
773
00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:24,327
10 months after she left.
774
00:39:24,329 --> 00:39:29,082
She would have been
an amazing grandmother.
775
00:39:29,084 --> 00:39:32,485
We were lucky that, you know,
I grew up with her
776
00:39:32,487 --> 00:39:35,922
and got to share
a room with her.
777
00:39:35,924 --> 00:39:39,042
We both didn't go very far
from the family farm.
778
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:43,162
Every day.
779
00:39:43,164 --> 00:39:46,549
♪♪
780
00:39:46,551 --> 00:39:47,851
Every day.
781
00:39:47,853 --> 00:39:51,771
♪♪
782
00:39:51,773 --> 00:39:53,857
I feel
that the community up here
783
00:39:53,859 --> 00:39:56,393
is maybe not as open.
784
00:39:56,395 --> 00:39:59,112
I just think that they have fear
built up inside of them
785
00:39:59,114 --> 00:40:00,730
because what if this
could happen to us
786
00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:04,901
if we allowed somebody
to stay with us?
787
00:40:04,903 --> 00:40:06,903
And when I'm up
at the head start,
788
00:40:06,905 --> 00:40:09,406
I think if my families
are in stress
789
00:40:09,408 --> 00:40:12,792
and I can't do something
for them, I say,
790
00:40:12,794 --> 00:40:14,911
"Liz give me the strength
to show me
791
00:40:14,913 --> 00:40:17,881
what I need to do
to help this family."
792
00:40:17,883 --> 00:40:19,332
And I always, always,
793
00:40:19,334 --> 00:40:22,552
always figure out a way
to help a family.
794
00:40:22,554 --> 00:40:24,587
She is my guardian angel.
795
00:40:24,589 --> 00:40:27,006
♪♪
796
00:40:27,008 --> 00:40:30,977
You just learn to move on
and still hold
797
00:40:30,979 --> 00:40:34,147
that memory of the gift
798
00:40:34,149 --> 00:40:37,550
that she give to some
of our kids in our town.
799
00:40:37,552 --> 00:40:39,853
Her love and caring
for those kids
800
00:40:39,855 --> 00:40:44,190
played a vital role
in our future.
801
00:40:44,192 --> 00:40:45,358
I mean,
it's still there.
802
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,392
You'll never forget
something like this
803
00:40:46,394 --> 00:40:47,694
happening in this town,
804
00:40:47,696 --> 00:40:49,996
but it's not something
that they want to say,
805
00:40:49,998 --> 00:40:51,831
"this is what happens
in payette, Idaho," you know?
806
00:40:51,833 --> 00:40:54,667
It's not that kind of town.
807
00:40:54,669 --> 00:40:56,920
We are hurt
by each tragedy,
808
00:40:56,922 --> 00:40:59,956
but we do band together,
and we get stronger.
809
00:40:59,958 --> 00:41:02,292
♪♪
810
00:41:02,294 --> 00:41:04,844
Time helps
to ease the anger.
811
00:41:04,846 --> 00:41:07,597
It's easier to celebrate her
a little bit more,
812
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:10,016
so I keep thinking,
"I'm going to live for you.
813
00:41:10,018 --> 00:41:13,503
I'm going to do things
that you would have done
814
00:41:13,505 --> 00:41:14,687
if you would have been here."
815
00:41:14,689 --> 00:41:16,990
And so that's what I try
to do for Liz.
816
00:41:16,992 --> 00:41:19,926
I keep her alive in those ways,
you know?
817
00:41:19,928 --> 00:41:28,785
♪♪
818
00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:31,804
I keep her alive in those ways,
you know?
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