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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:12,074 Support us and become VIP member to remove all ads from www.OpenSubtitles.org 2 00:00:38,803 --> 00:00:42,206 Hallelujah! Praise God! 3 00:00:54,852 --> 00:00:56,786 [ Applause ] 4 00:01:08,132 --> 00:01:11,502 [ Man ] The exonerees-- they're the greatest human resource... 5 00:01:11,535 --> 00:01:14,505 our criminal justice system has had ever, 6 00:01:14,538 --> 00:01:17,640 because what we can learn from them and their cases... 7 00:01:17,674 --> 00:01:20,243 can help us create a more just society... 8 00:01:20,276 --> 00:01:23,179 and fix the system and move it forward in a way... 9 00:01:23,213 --> 00:01:26,182 that it hasn't been within memory. 10 00:01:26,216 --> 00:01:28,518 It, like, breaks your soul down. 11 00:01:28,551 --> 00:01:30,553 It breaks everything down about you. 12 00:01:30,587 --> 00:01:33,089 It takes your manhood. It takes your pride. 13 00:01:33,122 --> 00:01:35,091 It takes your decency, your respect, 14 00:01:35,124 --> 00:01:37,093 because you're actually nothin'. 15 00:01:37,126 --> 00:01:40,730 All you are is something locked in a cage back and forth every day. 16 00:01:40,763 --> 00:01:43,800 Being a police officer, I cooperated... 17 00:01:43,833 --> 00:01:46,169 because I thought the state police investigators... 18 00:01:46,202 --> 00:01:49,005 would handle the investigation the way I would've. 19 00:01:49,038 --> 00:01:51,074 When I used to read people their rights, 20 00:01:51,107 --> 00:01:52,909 one of the first things I would say to them... 21 00:01:52,942 --> 00:01:56,045 after they waived their rights and they agreed to speak was, 22 00:01:56,079 --> 00:01:58,580 "If you didn't do this crime, I don't want you to admit to it." 23 00:01:58,614 --> 00:02:00,983 It's finally over. It's been 19 years. 24 00:02:01,016 --> 00:02:03,752 What now? Go home. 25 00:02:03,785 --> 00:02:07,823 [ Man ] 99.99% of defendants never say anything. 26 00:02:07,856 --> 00:02:12,561 And he stood up, and his words as I best remember them: 27 00:02:12,594 --> 00:02:15,965 "Judge, I just wanna tell you, the administration of justice in Massachusetts... 28 00:02:15,999 --> 00:02:17,966 is a crock of shit." 29 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:19,735 Those are the words I remember him saying. 30 00:02:21,770 --> 00:02:25,274 [ Man ] It was the most emotional moment I've ever had in my career. 31 00:02:25,307 --> 00:02:28,977 I told Mr. Maher how sorry I was... 32 00:02:29,011 --> 00:02:31,680 that I had been involved in his prosecution, 33 00:02:31,713 --> 00:02:33,982 and I asked him to forgive me. 34 00:02:57,673 --> 00:03:01,242 [ Woman ] All right! [ Applause ] 35 00:03:04,211 --> 00:03:08,015 [ Man ] It's breathtaking to be sittin' up here today, 'cause I came out of Michigan. 36 00:03:08,049 --> 00:03:11,319 That was one of the 12 states that doesn't have the death penalty. 37 00:03:11,352 --> 00:03:13,721 And, uh, I think all those years, 38 00:03:13,754 --> 00:03:16,324 I was just sittin' there thinkin' of what it would've been like... 39 00:03:16,357 --> 00:03:18,726 had Michigan had the death penalty. 40 00:03:18,759 --> 00:03:24,264 And I'm thoroughly convinced that I would've been executed about 1995 or 1996, okay? 41 00:03:30,137 --> 00:03:33,341 I'm really honored to be here today with all these gentlemen here... 42 00:03:33,374 --> 00:03:35,743 who were wrongfully incarcerated. 43 00:03:35,776 --> 00:03:38,679 I know it looks like a lot of people here, but really it's not, 44 00:03:38,713 --> 00:03:41,615 because in actuality, all our family... 45 00:03:41,648 --> 00:03:44,618 should be up here with us because they all suffered. 46 00:03:44,651 --> 00:03:49,923 For every one of us up here, there is hundreds more in prison that don't belong there. 47 00:03:49,956 --> 00:03:52,258 There's so many of them... 48 00:03:52,292 --> 00:03:54,260 that aren't gonna see the streets again. 49 00:03:54,294 --> 00:03:56,329 They're not gonna be with their friends and family... 50 00:03:56,363 --> 00:03:59,132 because the DNA evidence was lost or destroyed, 51 00:03:59,165 --> 00:04:01,333 or because there's no DNA evidence to test. 52 00:04:03,669 --> 00:04:06,740 [ Scheck ] The one thing that is so unique about all of you... 53 00:04:06,773 --> 00:04:09,009 is that you all come with the determination... 54 00:04:09,042 --> 00:04:11,011 that all that pain must've had a purpose. 55 00:04:11,044 --> 00:04:14,748 There is a reason that you made it, and you're gonna find... 56 00:04:14,781 --> 00:04:17,050 that it doesn't matter who you are-- 57 00:04:17,083 --> 00:04:20,787 whether you were a police officer or a United States marine... 58 00:04:20,820 --> 00:04:22,821 or a Sears Roebuck salesman. 59 00:04:22,855 --> 00:04:25,824 It can happen to anybody, and it did. 60 00:04:25,858 --> 00:04:29,728 [ Neufeld ] You folks were responsible for literally transforming... 61 00:04:29,762 --> 00:04:31,930 criminal justice in this country. 62 00:04:31,964 --> 00:04:34,900 I can look around the room and know what reform occurred in that state... 63 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:38,237 as a result of your false confession or your misidentification... 64 00:04:38,270 --> 00:04:40,773 or the junk science that was used to convict you. 65 00:04:40,806 --> 00:04:44,843 But after those 30 minutes of fame, the press walked away, 66 00:04:44,877 --> 00:04:47,179 and you guys were left holding the bag. 67 00:04:47,212 --> 00:04:50,449 We didn't think about what happens to you after you're exonerated. 68 00:04:50,482 --> 00:04:54,953 To the extent that you can see another comrade who hasn't faired quite as well as you, 69 00:04:54,987 --> 00:04:57,156 please reach out to them and communicate. 70 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:59,725 It's probably the best thing that we can do this weekend. 71 00:04:59,758 --> 00:05:02,794 Everyone who's doing computer training, 72 00:05:02,827 --> 00:05:06,698 we're going into the big conference room to start off there. 73 00:05:06,731 --> 00:05:09,801 Uh, Jim Bromgard. I got an e-mail. 74 00:05:09,834 --> 00:05:12,870 I get on the Internet three, four times a week and play around in there. 75 00:05:12,904 --> 00:05:15,073 So I got a little bit of experience. 76 00:05:15,106 --> 00:05:17,975 You wanna tell 'em your address? exoneree@yahoo.com. 77 00:05:18,009 --> 00:05:19,978 [ Laughter ] 78 00:05:20,012 --> 00:05:21,714 Okay, everybody say "freedom." 79 00:05:21,747 --> 00:05:24,949 [ All ] Freedom! 80 00:05:24,982 --> 00:05:28,219 [ Bongos ] 81 00:05:28,252 --> 00:05:30,788 Let me play with you. 82 00:05:36,828 --> 00:05:38,930 [ Indistinct ] 83 00:05:49,940 --> 00:05:52,342 [ Vincent ] Every time I go for a job, it says, 84 00:05:52,375 --> 00:05:55,445 "In the last 10 years, have you ever been convicted of a crime?" 85 00:05:55,479 --> 00:06:00,485 It doesn't say, "Have you ever been wrongfully accused of a crime?" 86 00:06:00,518 --> 00:06:03,054 So my record not being expunged, 87 00:06:03,087 --> 00:06:05,255 yes, that damages me... 88 00:06:05,288 --> 00:06:08,325 for trying to get my life back in order and gettin' a good job. 89 00:06:08,358 --> 00:06:11,495 Hey! [ Laughs ] 90 00:06:13,797 --> 00:06:16,133 Where you comin' from? Huh? 91 00:06:16,166 --> 00:06:18,401 [ Woman ] Vincent's a very good father. 92 00:06:18,435 --> 00:06:21,371 And now he has his baby daughter, 93 00:06:21,404 --> 00:06:24,206 and so he's trying to put everything he has... 94 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,544 or everything he lost into that child, and he's doing his best. 95 00:06:30,346 --> 00:06:32,982 [ Giggling ] That's right. 96 00:06:33,015 --> 00:06:35,018 [ Vincent ] You can't be a father in prison. 97 00:06:35,051 --> 00:06:38,855 You can be what is called a "dad." My definition of a dad... 98 00:06:38,889 --> 00:06:42,092 is one that brags and boasts about his kids. 99 00:06:42,125 --> 00:06:46,996 But a father is one that's there and supports and gives. 100 00:06:47,029 --> 00:06:49,865 What could I give? I had nothin'. 101 00:06:49,899 --> 00:06:52,468 How could I support 'em? I'm never there. I'm not home. 102 00:06:55,538 --> 00:06:59,441 [ Jackie ] People didn't know that he's out because he's innocent. 103 00:06:59,475 --> 00:07:02,478 People just know he's out. 104 00:07:02,511 --> 00:07:05,313 And as far as they know, he could be a rapist. 105 00:07:05,346 --> 00:07:07,816 It's 10 years later. 106 00:07:07,849 --> 00:07:11,287 Mom and Dad wanted to move to another state. 107 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,358 He refused. And he went on his own personal campaign to prove, 108 00:07:16,392 --> 00:07:19,028 "Here I am. I'm innocent." 109 00:07:19,061 --> 00:07:22,865 And that's when I could tell that psychologically, something had happened to him. 110 00:07:24,333 --> 00:07:26,301 He needed a place to live. 111 00:07:26,334 --> 00:07:28,469 My parents gave him the home that he's in now, 112 00:07:28,503 --> 00:07:31,372 and they moved to North Carolina. 113 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:36,277 Everybody brings their laundry here. 114 00:07:36,311 --> 00:07:39,581 My sisters, my cousins, my nieces. 115 00:07:39,614 --> 00:07:43,151 "Oh, you got a washer and dryer. That's a nice one." 116 00:07:43,184 --> 00:07:46,453 That's what they say. So-- 117 00:07:46,486 --> 00:07:48,523 The only thing I require from them... 118 00:07:48,556 --> 00:07:51,192 is they bring their own soap powder. 119 00:07:51,226 --> 00:07:55,530 Later on I tell 'em I'll pay for the electric, 120 00:07:55,563 --> 00:07:57,532 the water and the washing machine, 121 00:07:57,565 --> 00:08:00,501 but you gotta bring your own soap powder. 122 00:08:00,535 --> 00:08:03,471 It was hard for my father to explain to me, 123 00:08:03,504 --> 00:08:06,274 "I got convicted of raping somebody, 124 00:08:06,307 --> 00:08:08,942 but Daddy didn't do it." 125 00:08:08,976 --> 00:08:12,412 So I was, like, "How you not do it if you've been here all these years now?" 126 00:08:17,217 --> 00:08:19,887 "This is, um, no disrespect to you, 127 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,891 but my friend, she said that you raped her." 128 00:08:23,924 --> 00:08:25,894 And I said, "Well, who's your friend?" 129 00:08:25,927 --> 00:08:28,996 And he said, "The girl standin' right there on the corner." 130 00:08:29,029 --> 00:08:31,632 So I turn around and look. I said, "Well, she just spoke to me." 131 00:08:31,665 --> 00:08:35,569 And he says, "Well, um, she's goin' to get the cops, because she said you raped her." 132 00:08:35,602 --> 00:08:39,039 So I told him, "Well, look, I'll wait here with you... 133 00:08:39,072 --> 00:08:41,308 until she comes back with the cops so we can straighten this out now." 134 00:08:41,341 --> 00:08:46,179 And all I could do was try to convince this person that-- 135 00:08:46,213 --> 00:08:48,981 "Miss, look at me real good. You're makin' a mistake. 136 00:08:49,015 --> 00:08:50,950 You got the wrong guy. I don't even know you." 137 00:08:52,685 --> 00:08:56,222 And I know when they told me rape, robbery, 138 00:08:56,255 --> 00:08:58,991 possession of instrument at crime, a gun, 139 00:08:59,025 --> 00:09:01,962 conspiracy, and all these-- 140 00:09:01,995 --> 00:09:03,964 I'm, like, my God! 141 00:09:03,997 --> 00:09:07,267 You know, this is almost like... 142 00:09:07,301 --> 00:09:10,603 a hundred years in jail for somethin' you didn't do, and I'm really scared. 143 00:09:13,572 --> 00:09:16,709 You went to the best schools, lived in a really nice neighborhood. 144 00:09:16,742 --> 00:09:21,447 Your father worked to pay for five kids to go through Catholic school. 145 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,717 Every Sunday, you had pancakes, and everything in life is wonderful. 146 00:09:24,750 --> 00:09:27,486 And then one day, somebody comes up and tells a lie on you, 147 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,188 and you end up in jail. 148 00:09:30,221 --> 00:09:34,759 What's different is he knows fear doesn't exist. 149 00:09:50,241 --> 00:09:53,745 [ Chattering, Indistinct ] 150 00:09:53,778 --> 00:09:56,381 It is good. [ Child ] I want lasagna. 151 00:09:56,414 --> 00:09:58,984 You want lasagna. For the children. And that's it. 152 00:09:59,017 --> 00:10:01,052 Yeah? Have a seat. We'll be right with you, okay? 153 00:10:01,086 --> 00:10:03,254 Okay. 154 00:10:03,288 --> 00:10:06,758 Dear Lord, please bless this food to nourish our bodies and keep us in good health. 155 00:10:06,791 --> 00:10:09,527 Please bless those who are not fortunate enough to have a meal quite as this. 156 00:10:09,561 --> 00:10:11,662 Amen. [ All ] Amen. 157 00:10:13,664 --> 00:10:16,034 When he told me that he was wrongfully incarcerated... 158 00:10:16,067 --> 00:10:19,137 for ten and a half years, I was in shock. 159 00:10:19,170 --> 00:10:23,241 And all that time he lost from his family, and-- 160 00:10:23,274 --> 00:10:27,078 We kept gettin' closer and closer together. Yeah. 161 00:10:27,112 --> 00:10:32,583 He wasn't sleepin'. He'd be up all night playin' sad music. 162 00:10:32,616 --> 00:10:36,520 Beautiful music, but it was always sad. It wasn't, like, happy music. 163 00:10:36,553 --> 00:10:39,790 And then it seemed like every turn I made, it was like a wall there. 164 00:10:39,823 --> 00:10:43,560 The woman sayin' that I raped her-- 165 00:10:43,594 --> 00:10:46,030 Like, in my mind-- 166 00:10:46,063 --> 00:10:48,699 in my mind, I couldn't trust women anymore. 167 00:10:48,732 --> 00:10:52,436 It got to the point where-- "Leave me alone. Go sleep in the other room." 168 00:10:52,469 --> 00:10:55,439 And stuff like that. And you can't do certain things. 169 00:10:55,472 --> 00:10:58,609 It's like not bein' able to be a man, you know, 170 00:10:58,642 --> 00:11:01,578 when you're not financially stable. 171 00:11:01,612 --> 00:11:03,580 So much is goin' wrong, 172 00:11:03,614 --> 00:11:07,051 you're not established career-wise. 173 00:11:07,084 --> 00:11:10,654 You took the prime years of my life. 21, 22, 23, 24, 25-- 174 00:11:10,687 --> 00:11:14,524 These are the years where you actually establish yourself in your career. 175 00:11:14,557 --> 00:11:16,526 I said, "You took those years from me." 176 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:19,762 They didn't compensate me or anything. They didn't give me anything. 177 00:11:19,796 --> 00:11:22,398 They told him, "Okay, you know what? We made a mistake. See you later." 178 00:11:22,432 --> 00:11:24,400 "We made a mistake. You can go home." That's it. 179 00:11:24,434 --> 00:11:27,737 "We made a mistake. See you later. Have a good life." 180 00:11:40,550 --> 00:11:43,453 Heard you just got off of death row. Congratulations, buddy. 181 00:11:43,486 --> 00:11:46,089 Yeah, 'cause your case, uh-- 182 00:11:46,122 --> 00:11:50,760 Was your case the first case in the history of Pennsylvania to get off of death row? 183 00:11:50,793 --> 00:11:53,795 Right. And my case was the first case in the history of Pennsylvania... 184 00:11:53,829 --> 00:11:56,298 to be the first one to use DNA. 185 00:11:56,331 --> 00:11:58,300 They never expunged my record. 186 00:11:58,333 --> 00:12:01,136 They told me they wanted $6,000 to expunge my record. 187 00:12:01,169 --> 00:12:03,271 All kinds of crazy things, you know? 188 00:12:03,305 --> 00:12:05,273 Okay, great. 189 00:12:05,307 --> 00:12:07,677 All right, buddy. All right. 190 00:12:07,710 --> 00:12:11,180 [ Clears Throat ] That was Nick Yarris. 191 00:12:11,214 --> 00:12:15,750 Yeah. He told me he did 26 years... 192 00:12:15,784 --> 00:12:17,552 [ Sighs ] on death row. 193 00:12:17,586 --> 00:12:19,821 He's on his way here. 194 00:12:19,855 --> 00:12:23,291 When I first requested DNA in 1987, 195 00:12:23,325 --> 00:12:26,361 who would've thought right now that, you know, 196 00:12:26,394 --> 00:12:28,697 everyone is usin' it now freely, man? 197 00:12:28,730 --> 00:12:31,733 'Cause I fought hard to get that. Ten and a half years. 198 00:12:31,766 --> 00:12:34,668 If it had not came back-- 199 00:12:34,702 --> 00:12:37,571 They found four different sperms in this woman... 200 00:12:37,605 --> 00:12:41,709 who was supposed to be a married, you know, upstanding citizen. 201 00:12:41,742 --> 00:12:46,715 And they found four different sperms in her, and none of 'em were mine. 202 00:12:46,748 --> 00:12:48,884 That's incredible. 203 00:12:54,889 --> 00:12:58,159 I was in prison, down in the music department. 204 00:12:58,192 --> 00:13:00,861 And a guy called down. 205 00:13:00,895 --> 00:13:04,598 He was, like, "Turn the Phil Donahue Show on! Turn the Phil Donahue Show on! 206 00:13:04,632 --> 00:13:07,268 They're talkin' about DNA." 207 00:13:07,301 --> 00:13:08,903 How come they're out? 208 00:13:08,936 --> 00:13:11,906 How come these men are free? 209 00:13:11,939 --> 00:13:15,575 Because DNA testing proved that they didn't do it. 210 00:13:15,608 --> 00:13:18,311 They didn't do it. 211 00:13:18,344 --> 00:13:22,249 And are you here to say that these young men are the tip of the iceberg? 212 00:13:22,283 --> 00:13:25,519 Now, through DNA, we have hard evidence... 213 00:13:25,553 --> 00:13:28,789 that there is a lot more mistakes being made than we ever expected. 214 00:13:28,822 --> 00:13:31,892 That means that there are thousands of people in jail today... 215 00:13:31,926 --> 00:13:35,862 who can prove their innocence with DNA tests just as these gentlemen did. 216 00:13:35,895 --> 00:13:40,833 After having featured Barry Scheck on our program, the mail started. 217 00:13:42,569 --> 00:13:45,505 [ Vincent ] I wrote him a five-page letter, and I said, 218 00:13:45,538 --> 00:13:48,441 "I was watching your show. I'm sittin' in prison, 219 00:13:48,474 --> 00:13:50,877 and I didn't commit this crime I was accused of, of rape." 220 00:13:52,612 --> 00:13:55,415 [ Donahue ] We were very conscientious about reviewing-- 221 00:13:55,448 --> 00:13:58,785 vetting these letters. 222 00:13:58,818 --> 00:14:02,655 I recall the audience being very, very shocked to learn... 223 00:14:02,689 --> 00:14:04,691 that the system didn't work. 224 00:14:04,724 --> 00:14:08,394 It's not possible to overstate how much confidence we have. 225 00:14:08,428 --> 00:14:10,897 By God, when they go to jail, they deserve to go to jail. 226 00:14:13,733 --> 00:14:16,002 [ Vincent ] He told me that he had forwarded my letter... 227 00:14:16,035 --> 00:14:18,003 to Barry Scheck and Peter Neufeld, 228 00:14:18,036 --> 00:14:20,739 and that they would take my case. 229 00:14:23,875 --> 00:14:25,711 Vincent? Yes. 230 00:14:25,744 --> 00:14:27,713 Nick. Pleased to meet you. 231 00:14:27,746 --> 00:14:29,281 Pleased to meet you, sir. Congratulations. 232 00:14:29,314 --> 00:14:31,550 Congratulations to you. How are you? I'm fine. 233 00:14:31,583 --> 00:14:34,419 On the third, I'm gonna go and enact legislation... 234 00:14:34,453 --> 00:14:36,422 called the Nick Yarris bill... 235 00:14:36,456 --> 00:14:38,457 for compensation. Right. 236 00:14:38,490 --> 00:14:42,427 Now that a death penalty case was shown through DNA testing, 237 00:14:42,461 --> 00:14:44,363 they're gonna be a little bit more receptive. Right. 238 00:14:44,396 --> 00:14:46,365 Hopefully. Yeah, hopefully. 239 00:14:46,398 --> 00:14:47,866 Come on. 240 00:14:47,899 --> 00:14:49,935 I was convicted and sentenced to die... 241 00:14:49,968 --> 00:14:53,605 for murder and rape in 1982, 242 00:14:53,639 --> 00:14:56,842 and I spent 23 years on death row in solitary confinement. 243 00:14:56,875 --> 00:15:02,046 And I was just released 32 days ago. 244 00:15:06,651 --> 00:15:09,954 I grew up in that house right there for the first seven years of my life. 245 00:15:11,689 --> 00:15:14,893 Some of my fondest childhood memories... 246 00:15:14,926 --> 00:15:16,895 are right underneath that green awning. 247 00:15:16,928 --> 00:15:22,033 And now I walk by, and I'm, uh, Ebenezer, 248 00:15:22,066 --> 00:15:24,735 walking around a ghost in my own life. 249 00:15:25,803 --> 00:15:28,939 No, man. 250 00:15:28,973 --> 00:15:33,010 Could you imagine being accused... 251 00:15:33,044 --> 00:15:36,380 of the worst thing you could imagine, 252 00:15:38,715 --> 00:15:41,451 be sent to a prison up in Huntington, Pennsylvania... 253 00:15:41,484 --> 00:15:43,987 that was condemned by the United Nations... 254 00:15:44,020 --> 00:15:48,491 for its practices of torture, 255 00:15:48,525 --> 00:15:53,798 and then be told, "You're not allowed to speak"? 256 00:15:53,831 --> 00:15:58,502 That's true. For the first two years, I wasn't allowed to talk. 257 00:15:58,536 --> 00:16:01,471 I remember when I first got out of prison... 258 00:16:03,406 --> 00:16:05,375 how loud the world was. 259 00:16:05,408 --> 00:16:07,510 I mean, oh, my God! 260 00:16:07,544 --> 00:16:11,114 I would hear the tires on the cars in the street-- 261 00:16:11,147 --> 00:16:14,751 I wouldn't hear the engines and the horn. 262 00:16:14,784 --> 00:16:17,620 I would hear the tires, it would be so loud. 263 00:16:17,654 --> 00:16:22,758 And I was amazed by the smell of what the world was, 264 00:16:22,791 --> 00:16:26,563 because I had been breathing refiltered air for twenty-some years. 265 00:16:26,596 --> 00:16:29,065 That was-- It's strange. 266 00:16:29,099 --> 00:16:34,003 I suffered-- My sinuses and my face was killing me, 267 00:16:34,037 --> 00:16:37,140 because I was allergic to fresh air. 268 00:16:37,173 --> 00:16:40,409 It was hurting me to breathe. Strange. 269 00:16:40,442 --> 00:16:43,045 You know when someone says something to you, 270 00:16:43,078 --> 00:16:45,681 and they say, "You know, you're wrong," 271 00:16:45,714 --> 00:16:49,451 and you know the truth, and then it gives you that incredible sense of peace? 272 00:16:49,485 --> 00:16:53,589 Because whatever they said, it doesn't matter. 273 00:16:53,622 --> 00:16:56,658 That was my greatest strength. 274 00:16:56,692 --> 00:16:59,128 They could do whatever they wanted to me. 275 00:17:01,562 --> 00:17:03,999 I'm one of the strongest human beings ever created. 276 00:17:04,032 --> 00:17:06,034 I know that now. 277 00:17:07,803 --> 00:17:10,005 And I say that without an ounce of ego, 278 00:17:10,038 --> 00:17:12,074 because I've paid for it. 279 00:17:23,017 --> 00:17:26,087 The one vehicle that you can dive where you're actually outside, 280 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:30,124 because I don't think I wanna be on the inside a whole lot for a while. 281 00:17:30,158 --> 00:17:32,660 I was inside for a really long time. 282 00:17:32,693 --> 00:17:36,497 So I think I'll just enjoy being outside. 283 00:17:52,947 --> 00:17:54,982 [ Man ] Jeffery! 284 00:17:55,016 --> 00:17:58,019 [ Chattering ] 285 00:17:58,052 --> 00:18:00,254 Friends amongst you. Oh, God. Don't start. 286 00:18:02,889 --> 00:18:05,192 Youngster. How you doing, Luke? 287 00:18:05,225 --> 00:18:08,895 [ Nick ] Everybody on death row knows that there's a limited number of groups... 288 00:18:08,929 --> 00:18:12,065 that try to use their voices on the outside... 289 00:18:12,098 --> 00:18:16,102 to bring dignity or hope to these men who are in hopeless situations. 290 00:18:16,136 --> 00:18:20,475 Jeff is well hated and well loved in most of the prisons. 291 00:18:20,508 --> 00:18:23,677 An equal value to each, I'm glad to say. 292 00:18:23,710 --> 00:18:26,246 And most of the hate is from the administration... 293 00:18:26,279 --> 00:18:30,684 who can't stand him because he's such a pain in the ass, 294 00:18:30,717 --> 00:18:33,553 which is one of the reasons I like him. 295 00:18:33,587 --> 00:18:37,090 It's always good to go from writing letters to somebody inside prison... 296 00:18:37,123 --> 00:18:39,092 to having them in your office, 297 00:18:39,125 --> 00:18:41,728 even when they're harassing you. 298 00:18:41,761 --> 00:18:46,131 I'm gonna break the death penalty. I decided to do that out of spite. 299 00:18:46,165 --> 00:18:50,202 I can't live in peace. I can't walk away, 300 00:18:50,236 --> 00:18:53,639 because I looked in people's eyes and promised them I would come back and fight for 'em. 301 00:18:53,672 --> 00:18:59,145 Everyone here like Jeff, they chose to do this. That's why they have my respect. 302 00:18:59,179 --> 00:19:01,147 This isn't something that was dropped on them. 303 00:19:01,181 --> 00:19:04,016 They decided to step up for it because it's the right thing to do. 304 00:19:04,049 --> 00:19:06,285 I don't have a choice. I'm no hero at all. 305 00:19:06,318 --> 00:19:09,188 I was kind of angry. 306 00:19:09,221 --> 00:19:11,590 I told the judge to go to hell. 307 00:19:11,624 --> 00:19:14,827 I looked him right in the face and I said, 308 00:19:14,860 --> 00:19:18,030 "You and I both know I didn't kill anyone." 309 00:19:18,063 --> 00:19:22,968 And he couldn't look me in the eye. 310 00:19:23,002 --> 00:19:25,069 It was like it was his humiliation... 311 00:19:25,103 --> 00:19:28,673 that he kept putting his head down. 312 00:19:28,706 --> 00:19:31,076 So I said, "Look at me. You can't even look me in the eye, 313 00:19:31,110 --> 00:19:33,979 and you're about to sentence me to die." 314 00:19:34,013 --> 00:19:35,981 And he said, "Are you finished?" 315 00:19:36,015 --> 00:19:39,184 I said, "No. You can go to hell." 316 00:19:39,218 --> 00:19:43,722 I wasn't gonna go in there with my head hung in shame. I hadn't done anything. 317 00:19:43,756 --> 00:19:48,560 I had to fight despite lawyers, 318 00:19:48,593 --> 00:19:51,563 despite prosecutors who tried to destroy evidence. 319 00:19:51,596 --> 00:19:56,134 I had to fight despite things in prison... 320 00:19:56,167 --> 00:19:58,570 you could never wanna know. 321 00:19:58,603 --> 00:20:01,573 If I was guilty and was released on parole, 322 00:20:01,606 --> 00:20:05,343 I would be entitled to health care, job training, 323 00:20:05,376 --> 00:20:08,746 placement in society, housing, health care-- 324 00:20:08,780 --> 00:20:12,283 all those things that people on parole are entitled to... 325 00:20:12,317 --> 00:20:16,054 as part of the program services that enable them... 326 00:20:16,087 --> 00:20:18,222 to get back on their feet and get their lives together. 327 00:20:18,256 --> 00:20:23,027 I was given $5.37 by the state of Pennsylvania and let loose. 328 00:20:23,061 --> 00:20:26,096 The day I got out, we all went home. 329 00:20:26,129 --> 00:20:29,900 There was everyone there that I missed, and I said simply, 330 00:20:29,933 --> 00:20:32,069 "There are two things that I know-- 331 00:20:32,102 --> 00:20:35,939 family is everything, and family is everything." 332 00:20:35,973 --> 00:20:37,975 And that's it. 333 00:20:55,158 --> 00:20:57,327 [ Man ] "October 17, 1994. 334 00:20:57,361 --> 00:21:00,297 "Dear Mr. Neufeld, My name is Wilton Dedge, 335 00:21:00,330 --> 00:21:03,934 "and I am very interested in the organization the Innocence Project. 336 00:21:03,967 --> 00:21:06,136 "I don't know where else to turn. 337 00:21:06,169 --> 00:21:09,105 "I've tried everything I could to prove my innocence when all this first started. 338 00:21:09,138 --> 00:21:12,174 "When I found out that the police were looking for me, 339 00:21:12,208 --> 00:21:17,179 "I turned myself in knowing that it was all a mistake and that it would be straightened out. 340 00:21:17,213 --> 00:21:20,016 "I could write a number of pages telling you... 341 00:21:20,049 --> 00:21:24,321 "how outlandish the case is, but I know that you are very busy, 342 00:21:24,354 --> 00:21:26,723 "so I'll close for now. 343 00:21:26,757 --> 00:21:29,659 "I thank you in advance for your time and any help you can give. 344 00:21:29,692 --> 00:21:31,293 Sincerely, Wilton Dedge." 345 00:21:33,963 --> 00:21:37,299 I was locked up when I was 20 years old-- just turned 20 years old. 346 00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:42,104 And I'm 42 now, so I've been in a little over 22 years. 347 00:21:42,138 --> 00:21:47,810 Convicted for rape and sentenced to two life sentences. 348 00:21:47,843 --> 00:21:52,447 I really don't understand how I was even brought to court, much less convicted. 349 00:21:57,952 --> 00:21:59,922 [ Man ] According to the description the girl gave, 350 00:21:59,955 --> 00:22:03,859 her assailant was over six-foot tall, 180 to 200 pounds, 351 00:22:03,893 --> 00:22:05,961 long blond hair and a receding hairline, 352 00:22:05,995 --> 00:22:09,764 which the only thing that matches him is long blond hair. 353 00:22:11,266 --> 00:22:13,435 Anyone that's had children, 354 00:22:13,468 --> 00:22:18,907 you've got a gut feelin' whether they're tellin' you the truth or tellin' you a lie. 355 00:22:18,940 --> 00:22:22,010 And whichever way it is, it usually comes out... 356 00:22:22,043 --> 00:22:24,746 the way your gut feelin' was. 357 00:22:24,779 --> 00:22:26,881 And my gut feeling has always been... 358 00:22:26,915 --> 00:22:29,883 that Wilton was tellin' me the truth about this. 359 00:22:29,917 --> 00:22:34,188 There's just no way I can believe he's guilty of what he's been accused of. 360 00:22:37,525 --> 00:22:40,395 [ Man ] About six and a half years ago, Barry Scheck called... 361 00:22:40,428 --> 00:22:42,464 and he said that they had three cases in Florida, 362 00:22:42,497 --> 00:22:44,933 and would I be willing to do them. 363 00:22:44,966 --> 00:22:47,368 And he would positively guarantee that I would never get paid... 364 00:22:47,402 --> 00:22:49,504 and, in fact, that it would cost me money to do this, 365 00:22:49,537 --> 00:22:51,905 but that if I did a good job, 366 00:22:51,939 --> 00:22:55,109 he would send me more cases where I wouldn't get paid and it would cost me money to do it. 367 00:22:55,142 --> 00:22:56,877 So how do you turn down an offer like that? 368 00:22:59,913 --> 00:23:02,850 [ Wilton ] They had two hairs and a semen sample from the scene. 369 00:23:02,883 --> 00:23:06,220 The first test-- the semen sample-- was inconclusive. 370 00:23:06,253 --> 00:23:09,923 So we had the two hairs found that they used against me in trial... 371 00:23:09,957 --> 00:23:12,825 and had the DNA testing done on it. 372 00:23:12,859 --> 00:23:16,430 And it proved beyond a doubt that it wasn't mine. 373 00:23:20,367 --> 00:23:24,138 Judge Silvernail granted the admittance of DNA testing... 374 00:23:24,171 --> 00:23:28,008 and said that had I had it, I probably would've been acquitted. 375 00:23:28,041 --> 00:23:30,477 And the district attorney filed an appeal... 376 00:23:30,511 --> 00:23:33,045 trying to get the judge's decision overturned, 377 00:23:33,079 --> 00:23:37,049 saying that even though it proves it's not mine, that I didn't file properly. 378 00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:39,418 The presiding judge of that court... 379 00:23:39,452 --> 00:23:43,990 asked the assistant attorney general, 380 00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:46,859 "I wanna make sure I understand your position. 381 00:23:46,893 --> 00:23:49,328 "If this man is entirely innocent, 382 00:23:49,362 --> 00:23:53,199 is it still your position that he's entitled to no relief at all?" 383 00:23:53,232 --> 00:23:56,369 And she said, "Yes, that's our position." 384 00:23:56,402 --> 00:23:58,871 And his jaw fell open. 385 00:23:58,905 --> 00:24:01,574 Basically, I proved my innocence-- 386 00:24:01,607 --> 00:24:05,845 innocence too soon is what they're sayin'. 387 00:24:05,878 --> 00:24:08,948 Wilton Dedge is the case that poses the question, 388 00:24:08,981 --> 00:24:11,450 "Does innocence matter in Florida?" 389 00:24:11,484 --> 00:24:15,153 You have to go back to the days of Jim Crow... 390 00:24:15,187 --> 00:24:17,923 to find an instance where the state of Florida... 391 00:24:17,956 --> 00:24:21,193 has been as cruel... 392 00:24:21,226 --> 00:24:23,895 as it has been in the case of a man... 393 00:24:23,929 --> 00:24:26,898 who has been demonstrably innocent for three years-- 394 00:24:26,932 --> 00:24:31,304 never mind incarcerated for 22, demonstrably innocent for three-- 395 00:24:31,337 --> 00:24:33,572 and is still behind bars. 396 00:24:33,605 --> 00:24:36,208 [ Scheck ] They wouldn't give us access to the evidence. 397 00:24:36,241 --> 00:24:38,476 They wouldn't permit the DNA testing. 398 00:24:38,510 --> 00:24:40,846 Even when we got DNA testing that was exculpatory of Dedge, 399 00:24:40,879 --> 00:24:42,848 they didn't want the judges to look at it. 400 00:24:42,881 --> 00:24:46,117 They didn't care whether he was innocent. 401 00:24:46,151 --> 00:24:49,955 They were more interested in covering themselves... 402 00:24:49,988 --> 00:24:52,858 against the possibility they made a grievous mistake. 403 00:24:52,891 --> 00:24:55,359 The so-called "finality of the system"... 404 00:24:55,392 --> 00:24:58,295 was more important than getting an innocent person out of jail... 405 00:24:58,329 --> 00:25:00,064 and finding the person who really committed the crime. 406 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:09,074 [ Wilton ] The Innocence Project wrote me back asking for a little more information. 407 00:25:09,107 --> 00:25:11,309 Once they read through the records, 408 00:25:11,343 --> 00:25:13,644 they couldn't believe I was convicted. 409 00:25:13,677 --> 00:25:15,946 And they've been supportive the whole time. 410 00:25:18,015 --> 00:25:20,651 [ Neufeld ] Welcome. It's really great that you're all here. 411 00:25:20,684 --> 00:25:24,455 We started out as a small clinic at a law school... 412 00:25:24,488 --> 00:25:28,025 trying to free people who made a claim of actual innocence. 413 00:25:28,058 --> 00:25:31,295 And we started with a trickle of clients. 414 00:25:31,328 --> 00:25:33,497 Now, we see it's snowballed into something... 415 00:25:33,530 --> 00:25:36,532 where we now have a couple thousand people moving through the system here, 416 00:25:36,566 --> 00:25:39,435 more than a hundred active cases, 417 00:25:39,469 --> 00:25:42,673 a network of 30 Innocence Projects around the country, 418 00:25:42,706 --> 00:25:47,077 and as much concern with policy and reforming criminal justice... 419 00:25:47,111 --> 00:25:52,316 to make it more scientific, more reliable, more about the truth-seeking function. 420 00:25:52,349 --> 00:25:54,651 In most of our cases, the critical biological evidence... 421 00:25:54,684 --> 00:25:57,620 has either been lost or destroyed. 422 00:25:57,654 --> 00:26:01,357 But, more importantly, 90% of the cases don't even involve biological evidence. 423 00:26:01,391 --> 00:26:04,027 And what it tells us is that there are obviously... 424 00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:06,229 tens of thousands of innocent people... 425 00:26:06,262 --> 00:26:09,032 currently languishing in prison in the United States. 426 00:26:09,065 --> 00:26:13,136 And so, the Innocence Project is in a race against time... 427 00:26:13,169 --> 00:26:17,272 trying to help these people, and a lot of what you're gonna be doing is running that race. 428 00:26:19,676 --> 00:26:22,245 I'm going through letters, opening them up, 429 00:26:22,278 --> 00:26:25,048 reading through to make sure they're not death row... 430 00:26:25,081 --> 00:26:27,050 so we can put the death row ones at the top of the pile. 431 00:26:27,083 --> 00:26:30,119 And I do them into the computer-- their names, their addresses. 432 00:26:30,153 --> 00:26:34,090 Then we give 'em to the bosses, and they look through them and keep going through the piles... 433 00:26:34,123 --> 00:26:36,558 and sending out letters and deciding what to do with the cases. 434 00:26:36,591 --> 00:26:39,328 So we do pro bono legal work. 435 00:26:39,361 --> 00:26:41,463 There's only a few staff attorneys and regular workers... 436 00:26:41,496 --> 00:26:43,465 that are paid and do this full time. 437 00:26:43,498 --> 00:26:45,467 So to get through all the letters, 438 00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:49,438 we have to have people like me-- undergrads-- doing intake. 439 00:26:49,471 --> 00:26:52,007 [ Woman ] All of these drawers... 440 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,343 which are just literally... 441 00:26:54,376 --> 00:26:58,580 full of cases, 442 00:26:58,613 --> 00:27:02,117 letters that haven't been opened. 443 00:27:02,150 --> 00:27:05,387 Hundreds and thousands of letters. 444 00:27:08,657 --> 00:27:12,194 [ Male Electronic Voice ] I have a collect call from-- [ Wilton ] Inmate Dedge. 445 00:27:12,227 --> 00:27:16,431 an inmate at Cross City Correctional Institute. 446 00:27:16,465 --> 00:27:20,301 To accept, dial or say "five." [ Presses Button ] 447 00:27:20,334 --> 00:27:22,470 Your call is being connected. 448 00:27:22,503 --> 00:27:24,505 [ Wilton ] Nina Morrison's been real great. 449 00:27:24,538 --> 00:27:26,507 She's been callin' me here about once a week. 450 00:27:26,540 --> 00:27:29,010 Basically, keepin' my spirits up. 451 00:27:29,043 --> 00:27:31,579 Hey, Wilton, how you doin'? Warm. 452 00:27:31,612 --> 00:27:35,717 Warm. Yes, I can imagine. Has the mercury hit 90 yet? Oh, yeah. 453 00:27:35,751 --> 00:27:39,453 Yeah, it's been that for a few days now. Oh. You hangin' in all right? 454 00:27:39,487 --> 00:27:41,789 Yeah. You know, it's true, and I think it's hard, 455 00:27:41,822 --> 00:27:44,191 'cause those of us who are on the outside forget. 456 00:27:44,225 --> 00:27:47,395 You know, this to us feels like the time when things are really moving. 457 00:27:47,428 --> 00:27:51,232 But I know that the days seem a lot slower and longer in there. 458 00:27:51,265 --> 00:27:53,768 [ Wilton ] The same district attorney that convicted me in '84, 459 00:27:53,801 --> 00:27:59,406 he seems to be tryin' everything he can to keep me from goin' back to court. 460 00:27:59,439 --> 00:28:02,442 That's the composite that the victim did, 461 00:28:02,475 --> 00:28:05,345 and she explains what she saw of the defendant, 462 00:28:05,378 --> 00:28:08,181 how he looked, etcetera, and-- 463 00:28:08,214 --> 00:28:12,186 "Yeah, that's it. That's the hairline. That's the way the hair was. 464 00:28:12,219 --> 00:28:15,122 You know, that's the nose and the eyes, etcetera." 465 00:28:15,156 --> 00:28:18,591 And that is the way the defendant looked at the time. 466 00:28:18,625 --> 00:28:21,628 I mean, you ask the victim to do an identification, 467 00:28:21,661 --> 00:28:24,531 and that's about as good as it gets. 468 00:28:28,802 --> 00:28:32,072 [ Man ] Through the evolution of DNA technology, 469 00:28:32,105 --> 00:28:34,607 we can reveal a genetic signature... 470 00:28:34,641 --> 00:28:37,610 that is unique in the human population... 471 00:28:37,644 --> 00:28:41,580 based upon demonstrable proof. 472 00:28:43,816 --> 00:28:47,187 Having revealed that somebody is falsely convicted... 473 00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:50,356 and frequently having to fight a battle... 474 00:28:50,390 --> 00:28:54,394 to even do the investigations... 475 00:28:54,427 --> 00:28:59,531 is not a sign that the system is working properly. 476 00:28:59,565 --> 00:29:01,733 That's a sign that the system's not working. 477 00:29:01,767 --> 00:29:05,771 [ Man ] The only thing that's occurred up to this point in time is... 478 00:29:05,804 --> 00:29:08,507 the gate has been opened so that this may be considered... 479 00:29:08,540 --> 00:29:11,877 in an evidence hearing, the defendant has the burden of proof. 480 00:29:11,910 --> 00:29:14,580 [ Silvernail ] It's not your intent to challenge DNA... 481 00:29:14,613 --> 00:29:17,349 in terms of the scientific predicate, per se. 482 00:29:17,382 --> 00:29:20,785 [ Holmes ] My challenge is as to all the DNA testing that's been done... 483 00:29:20,818 --> 00:29:24,490 and what significance it should play in the court's decision. 484 00:29:24,523 --> 00:29:26,758 I'm wondering if the state would mind providing us... 485 00:29:26,792 --> 00:29:30,229 with the names and titles of the possible witnesses you may need to call. 486 00:29:30,262 --> 00:29:32,798 [ Holmes ] It's a little late to be playing the discovery game. 487 00:29:32,831 --> 00:29:35,467 [ Hirsch ] Your Honor, I don't quite know... 488 00:29:35,501 --> 00:29:38,170 what Mr. Holmes means by "playing the discovery game." 489 00:29:38,203 --> 00:29:41,572 We're gonna produce the DNA evidence and what we have to do to get it before the court. 490 00:29:41,606 --> 00:29:43,908 That's our case. 491 00:29:47,578 --> 00:29:50,648 It just turns out that Dennis, 492 00:29:50,681 --> 00:29:55,887 our 127th exoneree from Massachusetts, was coming into town today-- 493 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,289 For her birthday. For my birthday. 494 00:29:58,322 --> 00:30:02,560 So we thought, wow, what a better lunchtime treat... 495 00:30:02,593 --> 00:30:06,731 than to have-- to hear a real exoneree tell his story. 496 00:30:06,764 --> 00:30:11,702 And he is doing way, way better than a lot of our other guys. 497 00:30:11,736 --> 00:30:14,639 And he'll tell you the rest. 498 00:30:14,672 --> 00:30:16,774 Dennis. 499 00:30:16,807 --> 00:30:19,510 In November of 1983, 500 00:30:19,544 --> 00:30:23,180 I was arrested and charged with attempted rape, rape, 501 00:30:23,213 --> 00:30:25,448 assault and battery with a dangerous weapon, 502 00:30:25,482 --> 00:30:28,285 and assorted other charges. 503 00:30:28,318 --> 00:30:31,521 I was sentenced to 20 to 30 years and second degree life. 504 00:30:31,555 --> 00:30:36,226 And so I expected to never get out of prison. 505 00:30:36,259 --> 00:30:38,429 And then in 1993, 506 00:30:38,462 --> 00:30:41,766 I saw on Phil Donahue Barry Scheck... 507 00:30:41,799 --> 00:30:45,635 had just started the Innocence Project in New York. 508 00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:48,471 So I wrote Barry a letter and asked him for help. 509 00:30:48,505 --> 00:30:51,575 Now, I went, like, 510 00:30:51,608 --> 00:30:54,578 16 years without a lawyer. 511 00:30:54,611 --> 00:30:57,013 I did all of this work by myself. 512 00:30:59,883 --> 00:31:01,618 And then, I had a lawyer. 513 00:31:03,485 --> 00:31:06,255 So as you can imagine, it was a very emotional time. 514 00:31:10,826 --> 00:31:12,795 [ Man ] Is there anything else that I have to do... 515 00:31:12,828 --> 00:31:15,498 other than sign the motion to vacate-- 516 00:31:15,532 --> 00:31:19,669 to have him released from the courtroom? [ Woman ] No, Your Honor. 517 00:31:19,703 --> 00:31:21,738 Well, I've allowed the motion. I'm signing it. 518 00:31:23,739 --> 00:31:25,908 And it shall be filed. 519 00:31:25,941 --> 00:31:28,310 Is there anything else? [ Woman ] Thank you, Your Honor. 520 00:31:28,344 --> 00:31:30,446 Thank you very much. Thank you very much. 521 00:31:31,981 --> 00:31:34,917 The defendant is expulsed. [ Applause ] 522 00:31:41,390 --> 00:31:44,492 [ Dennis ] She's my hero. Without her, I'd still be in prison. 523 00:31:44,525 --> 00:31:46,494 She fought for my case. 524 00:31:46,527 --> 00:31:48,663 She fought for me. 525 00:31:48,696 --> 00:31:50,965 She believed in me. 526 00:31:50,999 --> 00:31:55,004 You know, how can you say thank you for what she did? 527 00:31:56,538 --> 00:31:58,340 There is no way. 528 00:32:00,976 --> 00:32:03,512 [ Man ] Come forward. Come forward. Come forward. Come forward. 529 00:32:03,545 --> 00:32:05,747 Dennis is just gonna make maybe one statement here. 530 00:32:05,780 --> 00:32:08,683 And then, as you all know, there's a larger press conference at 12:00. 531 00:32:08,716 --> 00:32:11,352 [ Man ] Dennis, how are you? How are you feeling, Dennis? 532 00:32:11,386 --> 00:32:13,955 I have no comments right now. [ Laughter ] 533 00:32:13,988 --> 00:32:15,957 It's all a little overwhelming. 534 00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:19,927 [ Chattering ] 535 00:32:19,961 --> 00:32:24,332 J. Carney wanted to talk to you. Yeah, I'll talk to him. 536 00:32:24,365 --> 00:32:27,034 [ Dennis ] As I was leaving, the senior court officer says, 537 00:32:27,067 --> 00:32:31,406 "J.W. Carney--" the D.A. who prosecuted me-- "he would like to talk to you." 538 00:32:31,439 --> 00:32:33,341 And he apologized. 539 00:32:35,943 --> 00:32:38,446 And it was, um, a true apology. 540 00:32:38,479 --> 00:32:41,449 You know, it was really heartfelt. 541 00:32:41,482 --> 00:32:43,451 So I got my apology. 542 00:32:43,484 --> 00:32:45,086 That felt good. 543 00:32:49,890 --> 00:32:53,627 Comin' out. Back up. Watch out. 544 00:32:53,660 --> 00:32:56,963 [ Camera Shutters Clicking ] 545 00:32:56,997 --> 00:33:00,434 We were all happy. We all had tears in our eyes, 546 00:33:00,467 --> 00:33:05,072 'cause we knew now that he was comin' home. 547 00:33:05,105 --> 00:33:07,407 And when he come home-- Oh, my goodness. 548 00:33:07,441 --> 00:33:12,379 [ Chuckling ] That was a cryin' day. 549 00:33:12,412 --> 00:33:16,416 Makes me feel like a new man, like when he was a kid. 550 00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:18,919 That's what it makes me feel like. 551 00:33:31,997 --> 00:33:34,400 [ Dennis ] My parents were livin' alone. 552 00:33:34,433 --> 00:33:36,469 I moved back in with 'em. 553 00:33:36,502 --> 00:33:38,838 This used to be their entertainment room. 554 00:33:38,871 --> 00:33:41,040 Well, now I live in here. 555 00:33:41,073 --> 00:33:46,146 And they say, "When you go away, it's quiet. We like it when you're here. 556 00:33:46,179 --> 00:33:49,615 'Cause even if you're not talkin' to us, you're still makin' noise." 557 00:33:49,648 --> 00:33:52,818 So it had a good effect on them. 558 00:33:52,852 --> 00:33:55,121 [ Man On P.A., Indistinct ] Come on, Sarah. Get out there. 559 00:33:58,023 --> 00:34:01,026 Come on, Sarah! [ Laughing ] 560 00:34:01,060 --> 00:34:04,029 [ Man On P.A. Continues ] 561 00:34:07,899 --> 00:34:11,770 He came in last. He came in last. Right there. No good. 562 00:34:11,803 --> 00:34:14,139 Now I'm just about even. [ Dennis ] You won last week. 563 00:34:14,172 --> 00:34:17,809 I won two bucks. Better than nothin'. 564 00:34:19,778 --> 00:34:24,950 When he was in jail, I lost interest in everything... 565 00:34:24,984 --> 00:34:27,653 just on account of that. 566 00:34:27,686 --> 00:34:31,022 'Cause when he got arrested, I almost got arrested myself with him. 567 00:34:31,055 --> 00:34:33,224 I was ready to start fightin' with the cops. 568 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,762 Last race, then we go home. 569 00:34:48,839 --> 00:34:52,910 [ Dennis ] Today's my birthday. It's my first birthday out of prison. 570 00:34:52,943 --> 00:34:55,446 So I can do what I want. 571 00:34:55,479 --> 00:34:57,949 If I don't wanna do nothin', I don't have to do nothin'. 572 00:34:59,617 --> 00:35:04,122 Happy birthday to you 573 00:35:04,155 --> 00:35:08,159 Happy birthday to you 574 00:35:08,193 --> 00:35:13,130 Happy birthday dear Dennis 575 00:35:13,163 --> 00:35:17,935 Happy birthday to you 576 00:35:17,968 --> 00:35:20,103 Blow out the candles. Make a wish. 577 00:35:20,137 --> 00:35:23,240 [ Cheering ] Yea! 578 00:35:25,642 --> 00:35:29,812 This is the sweatshirt and the jacket I had on when I got arrested. 579 00:35:29,846 --> 00:35:34,051 I planned on doin' 20 years in the military, 580 00:35:34,084 --> 00:35:36,820 and then startin' a second career as a mechanic. 581 00:35:36,854 --> 00:35:41,658 You know, that was when my hopes in a day got shattered. 582 00:35:43,994 --> 00:35:47,831 I bought a six-pack in the Lowell Package Store. 583 00:35:47,865 --> 00:35:51,868 Walked down here and got arrested right in front of the soap-washed windows. 584 00:35:51,901 --> 00:35:54,270 And I had a half an ounce of marijuana in my pocket, 585 00:35:54,303 --> 00:35:56,739 and he arrested me for possession. 586 00:35:56,772 --> 00:35:59,809 And that's where it started from. 587 00:35:59,842 --> 00:36:04,747 He seen me in a red-hooded sweatshirt from across the-- two streets. 588 00:36:04,780 --> 00:36:08,818 And I was the one, 589 00:36:08,851 --> 00:36:11,754 and he was gonna take me down. 590 00:36:11,787 --> 00:36:16,859 I thought I was arrested for possession of marijuana. Then they told me about rape. 591 00:36:16,893 --> 00:36:20,963 So I says, "Well, I didn't do 'em, and I think I need a lawyer." 592 00:36:20,997 --> 00:36:23,633 They were week-long trials. 593 00:36:23,666 --> 00:36:27,303 Most of it was just the victim sayin', "He did it." 594 00:36:27,336 --> 00:36:29,705 It felt bad because... 595 00:36:29,739 --> 00:36:31,806 I could see the pain that the women were in. 596 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,809 And... 597 00:36:34,843 --> 00:36:38,313 I know I didn't do it, and they were sayin' I did. 598 00:36:38,346 --> 00:36:40,649 I had never seen these women before. 599 00:36:40,682 --> 00:36:44,052 My lawyer was the worst lawyer on the planet. 600 00:36:44,085 --> 00:36:46,621 The only time I saw him was at court. 601 00:36:46,655 --> 00:36:48,224 He never visited the scene of the crime. 602 00:36:48,257 --> 00:36:52,594 He was horrifying. 603 00:36:52,627 --> 00:36:54,796 I wanted to get rid of him, but I didn't know how to. 604 00:36:54,829 --> 00:36:56,364 I'd never been to court. 605 00:36:57,999 --> 00:37:00,769 I was in shock, 606 00:37:00,802 --> 00:37:03,338 because I got found guilty. 607 00:37:03,371 --> 00:37:05,640 And then he sentenced me to all that time, 608 00:37:05,674 --> 00:37:10,011 and I didn't know what to expect in prison. 609 00:37:10,045 --> 00:37:14,782 You know, I expected bein' beaten, bein' raped. 610 00:37:14,815 --> 00:37:17,851 I expected to die in prison. 611 00:37:20,354 --> 00:37:24,858 [ Woman ] I met Dennis at the treatment center at Bridgewater. 612 00:37:24,892 --> 00:37:27,295 He was committed there after he was found too dangerous. 613 00:37:27,329 --> 00:37:29,297 Everybody there is doing therapy. 614 00:37:29,331 --> 00:37:33,367 It's not your, um-- I guess your typical prison environment. 615 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,769 Usually, in the beginning of treatment, 616 00:37:35,803 --> 00:37:38,205 the men will come in claiming they're innocent. 617 00:37:38,238 --> 00:37:41,375 But over time, they work through that denial. 618 00:37:41,408 --> 00:37:44,311 [ Dennis ] I became one of the prizes in the treatment center. 619 00:37:44,345 --> 00:37:47,214 If you could get Dennis to admit to his crimes, 620 00:37:47,247 --> 00:37:49,350 you were accomplishing something. 621 00:37:49,383 --> 00:37:54,787 Um, I used to tell the therapists-- I said, "Listen, I didn't do the crimes. 622 00:37:54,821 --> 00:37:58,391 "I know it's your job to get me to admit to it. It'll never happen. 623 00:37:58,424 --> 00:38:01,394 "I'll do what therapy I can do, 624 00:38:01,427 --> 00:38:04,698 but it'll be nothing on the crimes." 625 00:38:04,732 --> 00:38:08,002 I was a pretty angry person in prison. 626 00:38:08,035 --> 00:38:10,004 I would go to work in the mornings, 627 00:38:10,037 --> 00:38:12,206 and the guys would say, "Uh-oh. Who pissed him off?" 628 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,709 And I'd tell 'em, "You do 18 or 19 years in prison when you're innocent, 629 00:38:16,743 --> 00:38:20,413 and see if you don't have a lot of bad days." 630 00:38:20,446 --> 00:38:23,983 [ Dizio ] Whether it be an anger management or a stress management class, 631 00:38:24,017 --> 00:38:26,252 I think having those therapeutic outlets... 632 00:38:26,285 --> 00:38:30,723 really helped both maintain him and also continue his drive. 633 00:38:38,930 --> 00:38:42,301 [ Dennis ] It helped me not to become institutionalized. 634 00:38:42,335 --> 00:38:45,171 If I was institutionalized, I couldn't do anything when I got out. 635 00:38:45,204 --> 00:38:48,141 I have a job now, I have my driver's license, 636 00:38:48,174 --> 00:38:52,145 and I function as close to normal as I can. 637 00:38:52,178 --> 00:38:55,447 [ Man ] He must've felt everybody was against him in prison. 638 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,816 [ Chattering ] 639 00:39:00,919 --> 00:39:04,022 I mean, everybody else is lookin' at you like, "You did it. You did it." 640 00:39:04,056 --> 00:39:06,458 Then finally, you get redeemed. That must've been nice. 641 00:39:06,491 --> 00:39:09,127 Or were you angry? I don't know. 642 00:39:09,161 --> 00:39:11,129 He ain't got no grudge against nothin'. 643 00:39:11,163 --> 00:39:14,399 That's why I know he's that way-- an innocent man and a good man. 644 00:39:14,433 --> 00:39:17,402 I'm, like, "You gotta be shittin' me. After that long?" 645 00:39:17,436 --> 00:39:21,139 Oh! It shocked me. Really, it did. 646 00:39:23,408 --> 00:39:27,212 How can you be in jail that long and not be angry or not be upset, you know? 647 00:39:27,245 --> 00:39:31,416 He just said he wasn't, so he's a better man than I am for that. 648 00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:42,126 My name's Jeffery Scott Hornoff, and I'm a police officer. 649 00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:46,797 I was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison. 650 00:39:46,831 --> 00:39:50,201 Every step of the judicial system failed me and my family. 651 00:39:50,234 --> 00:39:53,505 And if not for the guilt and remorse of the true killer, 652 00:39:53,538 --> 00:39:55,841 I'd still be in prison. 653 00:39:58,209 --> 00:40:02,346 [ Man ] This guy, Scott Hornoff, was in jail. 654 00:40:02,379 --> 00:40:05,049 [ Continues, Indistinct ] 655 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,922 [ Scott ] My oldest son was about six and a half. 656 00:40:11,956 --> 00:40:14,825 I always saw myself gettin' down on bended knee... 657 00:40:14,859 --> 00:40:18,995 and him jumpin' in my arms when I was freed. 658 00:40:19,028 --> 00:40:24,434 Now he's 14. He's six-foot tall, 245 pounds. 659 00:40:24,467 --> 00:40:27,771 He was in the courtroom when I was freed, and he picked me up. 660 00:40:27,804 --> 00:40:30,508 [ Applause ] 661 00:40:35,312 --> 00:40:38,481 He's free. Free. 662 00:40:38,515 --> 00:40:42,252 Oh, honey. Now you can live again. 663 00:40:45,255 --> 00:40:47,257 I love you. 664 00:40:51,561 --> 00:40:54,898 I doubt if even Shakespeare could find the words... 665 00:40:54,931 --> 00:40:58,534 to express adequately how I'm feelin' right now. 666 00:40:58,567 --> 00:41:01,837 I thank God and I thank my family... 667 00:41:01,870 --> 00:41:04,573 and my friends, both old and new, 668 00:41:04,606 --> 00:41:08,478 for supporting me and fighting for me... 669 00:41:08,511 --> 00:41:10,547 and never giving up on me, 670 00:41:10,580 --> 00:41:15,051 even in the darkest times when I thought of giving up myself. 671 00:41:15,084 --> 00:41:18,521 My thoughts go out to the thousands of other innocent people... 672 00:41:18,555 --> 00:41:22,224 still wrongfully imprisoned across the United States, 673 00:41:22,257 --> 00:41:27,095 and the thousands more facing unjust and unfair prison sentences. 674 00:41:27,129 --> 00:41:30,032 And I hope to help change that. 675 00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:37,239 This was my first beat right here. 676 00:41:37,272 --> 00:41:39,507 This is considered post seven in Warwick. 677 00:41:42,210 --> 00:41:46,281 Being a police officer and being questioned for a murder... 678 00:41:46,315 --> 00:41:50,252 was, uh, an undescribable feeling. 679 00:41:50,285 --> 00:41:54,957 I had decided to become a police officer at the age of 12, 680 00:41:54,990 --> 00:41:57,092 and I pretty much devoted my life to it. 681 00:41:57,125 --> 00:42:00,261 And to have the whole judicial system turn around and target me... 682 00:42:00,294 --> 00:42:02,430 was really hard to take. 683 00:42:02,463 --> 00:42:05,499 I was unfaithful to my ex-wife. 684 00:42:05,533 --> 00:42:08,369 Vicki and I were intimate twice. 685 00:42:08,402 --> 00:42:12,240 I feared I would be questioned because of my brief relationship with her, 686 00:42:12,273 --> 00:42:16,143 but I never realized I would be questioned as a suspect. 687 00:42:16,177 --> 00:42:18,479 It was just ridiculous how the Warwick police... 688 00:42:18,512 --> 00:42:21,214 handled the investigation from the very beginning. 689 00:42:21,248 --> 00:42:25,620 They trampled underneath where Todd Barry climbed up. 690 00:42:25,653 --> 00:42:30,324 They walked all over there, where they could've gotten some footprints. 691 00:42:30,358 --> 00:42:34,695 And there were scuff marks goin' up, and they didn't do anything with those. 692 00:42:36,931 --> 00:42:39,500 There was no apology from the judge, 693 00:42:39,533 --> 00:42:41,534 the prosecutor, the attorney general. 694 00:42:41,568 --> 00:42:45,205 Actually, I think they were upset at me for being innocent. 695 00:42:45,238 --> 00:42:48,608 This is the Warwick Police Department. 696 00:42:48,642 --> 00:42:51,645 It's where I was welcomed into detectives, 697 00:42:51,678 --> 00:42:54,648 and then questioned about Vicki's murder. 698 00:42:57,617 --> 00:43:00,955 [ Man ] I don't think you ever enjoyed the presumption of innocence. 699 00:43:00,988 --> 00:43:05,158 The only thing that you did wrong was have this affair with the girl. 700 00:43:05,191 --> 00:43:07,360 And suddenly, the spotlight's on you. 701 00:43:07,394 --> 00:43:11,197 There is still the idea that if you've been arrested, you did somethin'. 702 00:43:11,231 --> 00:43:14,134 But here, he must've done somethin' really bad, 703 00:43:14,167 --> 00:43:16,937 because he's a policeman and the police arrested him. 704 00:43:16,970 --> 00:43:20,073 Okay? And that-- 705 00:43:20,106 --> 00:43:24,710 that was somethin' you were never, ever going to get over. 706 00:43:24,743 --> 00:43:29,348 Did you ever go down and get your badge and I.D. after you got reinstated? 707 00:43:29,381 --> 00:43:31,650 That's part of tomorrow's discussion. Oh. 708 00:43:31,684 --> 00:43:35,622 So what my attorney is sayin' is, "Okay, fine. 709 00:43:35,655 --> 00:43:38,158 "You tell us what 10 years of back pay... 710 00:43:38,191 --> 00:43:40,393 "and six and a half years of wrongful imprisonment... 711 00:43:40,427 --> 00:43:43,562 "and the loss of Scott's home and the loss of his mom's home... 712 00:43:43,595 --> 00:43:45,664 and everything that goes along with it is worth." 713 00:43:45,698 --> 00:43:48,534 So they haven't come up with a figure, 714 00:43:48,567 --> 00:43:52,471 and it appears that they have no intention of doin' so. We'll see. 715 00:43:55,574 --> 00:43:58,510 He'll just kind of be slumped over and he'll just say, 716 00:43:58,544 --> 00:44:02,481 "I never thought I'd say this, but in a lot of ways, it was easier in prison." 717 00:44:02,514 --> 00:44:05,283 And that is heartbreaking. 718 00:44:05,316 --> 00:44:07,618 This was my city, 719 00:44:07,652 --> 00:44:11,255 and a lot of times, I feel like a foreigner. 720 00:44:11,289 --> 00:44:14,026 I feel out of place. But it's, like, God, I miss those days, 721 00:44:14,059 --> 00:44:18,063 and I miss, you know, bein' a part of that. 722 00:44:18,097 --> 00:44:22,001 And even though I've been ordered reinstated, I haven't been back to work yet. 723 00:44:22,034 --> 00:44:25,203 I purchased quite a few books... 724 00:44:25,236 --> 00:44:27,038 and read books on drawing while I was in there. 725 00:44:27,071 --> 00:44:29,640 It was one of the things I did to pass time. 726 00:44:29,674 --> 00:44:32,010 It represented very well the distance... 727 00:44:32,043 --> 00:44:34,178 between me and my son Jacob. 728 00:44:34,212 --> 00:44:38,116 He was born three months after I went to prison. 729 00:44:38,149 --> 00:44:43,421 My hand tossin' the ball to him, and then with him with his hand out. 730 00:44:43,454 --> 00:44:47,691 Or this one here of Tina's hand, and I drew her hand reaching out to mine. 731 00:44:52,497 --> 00:44:56,434 We're at least gonna ask that Scott be placed on the payroll. 732 00:44:56,467 --> 00:44:59,804 Because as of now, he's still not receiving any income. 733 00:44:59,837 --> 00:45:04,142 So we've been relying solely on my income, 734 00:45:04,175 --> 00:45:08,211 and his mom has been wonderful in giving him some pocket change. 735 00:45:08,245 --> 00:45:12,449 And my parents have been letting us stretch out the rent. 736 00:45:12,482 --> 00:45:16,286 If we took a right down here, it would take us down to high security, 737 00:45:16,319 --> 00:45:18,588 where I was for the last year. 738 00:45:24,828 --> 00:45:28,231 Thank you. Welcome to the inner sanctum, Tina. 739 00:45:28,265 --> 00:45:29,499 Ah! 740 00:45:29,533 --> 00:45:32,069 [ Man ] I've worked with thousands of offenders, 741 00:45:32,102 --> 00:45:34,504 and I know it's not so easy to get on with your life. 742 00:45:34,538 --> 00:45:37,841 I could see it in Scott. 743 00:45:37,874 --> 00:45:41,211 This was a guy that never belonged here in the first place, 744 00:45:41,244 --> 00:45:46,582 and I felt some obligation to try to help him out. 745 00:45:46,615 --> 00:45:49,785 And that's when the friendship took route. 746 00:45:49,819 --> 00:45:52,488 I do think that in the month since I've known you, 747 00:45:52,521 --> 00:45:56,692 the stare has faded. 748 00:45:56,725 --> 00:46:00,463 This place, you know, does change people. You were our test case. 749 00:46:00,496 --> 00:46:03,432 Because the question had always been-- 750 00:46:03,466 --> 00:46:07,169 when somebody has difficulty adjusting to life after prison, 751 00:46:07,203 --> 00:46:10,873 is it because of the problems that they had before they came to prison, 752 00:46:10,906 --> 00:46:13,542 or is it the experience of imprisonment itself? 753 00:46:13,576 --> 00:46:18,380 And your case suggests that the experience itself takes a toll. 754 00:46:18,414 --> 00:46:21,217 And that's sobering. Innocent or guilty, people are people. 755 00:46:21,250 --> 00:46:25,254 And I've definitely learned a lot from being on that side. 756 00:46:25,287 --> 00:46:29,724 [ Scott ] I was told, in the facility I was at for five and a half years, 757 00:46:29,757 --> 00:46:32,760 their job was to break everybody, 758 00:46:32,794 --> 00:46:35,430 to break their spirit. 759 00:46:35,463 --> 00:46:37,632 It wasn't rehabilitation. 760 00:46:37,665 --> 00:46:41,137 There weren't really any opportunities for people to turn themselves around... 761 00:46:41,170 --> 00:46:44,507 or to prepare themselves for reintegration. 762 00:46:44,540 --> 00:46:49,711 Hi, Jacob. Are you going to Zachary's game? 763 00:46:49,744 --> 00:46:53,915 Well, maybe I can pick you up before the game and we can go get a burger or something. 764 00:46:53,948 --> 00:46:57,519 All right, buddy. I love you. Bye. [ Phone Clicks ] 765 00:46:57,552 --> 00:46:59,888 I know when I was in prison, I said I'd give my right arm... 766 00:46:59,921 --> 00:47:03,291 just to spend a couple hours with him... 767 00:47:03,324 --> 00:47:08,362 without them being forced to go through metal detectors and razor wire fences. 768 00:47:08,395 --> 00:47:11,765 I really miss my mom. I miss the woman that she was. 769 00:47:11,798 --> 00:47:15,202 This really did a number on her more than anybody. 770 00:47:15,235 --> 00:47:19,741 I have an edge to me, but what this has done to her, 771 00:47:19,774 --> 00:47:22,477 it's-- it breaks my heart. 772 00:47:25,413 --> 00:47:28,348 He has to reconcile the police officer, 773 00:47:28,382 --> 00:47:31,418 the ex-husband, the dad, 774 00:47:31,451 --> 00:47:33,854 the son, the brother, 775 00:47:33,887 --> 00:47:38,358 the wrongfully convicted person, 776 00:47:38,392 --> 00:47:43,330 the incarcerated person, the exoneree all into one, 777 00:47:43,363 --> 00:47:48,602 and then figure out where he can move from here, 778 00:47:48,635 --> 00:47:51,604 and who he wants to be from here. 779 00:48:12,792 --> 00:48:15,728 [ Man ] My grandfather planted that tree before I went to prison. 780 00:48:15,761 --> 00:48:18,464 That tree was just a little stick, you know, 781 00:48:18,497 --> 00:48:20,666 that he had put in the ground. 782 00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:24,003 Look at it now. There it is 22 years later, full grown. 783 00:48:31,376 --> 00:48:33,346 Hello. How you doin'? 784 00:48:33,379 --> 00:48:34,914 All right? Good to see ya. 785 00:48:39,352 --> 00:48:41,787 See, all of this-- this street here? 786 00:48:41,821 --> 00:48:46,325 All this street here. All this old neighborhood been changed now. 787 00:48:46,359 --> 00:48:49,562 [ Woman ] When an exoneree is released, 788 00:48:49,595 --> 00:48:52,631 the first thing that the Life After Exoneration Program does... 789 00:48:52,664 --> 00:48:55,500 is work with the family and the community... 790 00:48:55,533 --> 00:48:58,603 to find out what resources are available... 791 00:48:58,637 --> 00:49:02,774 in terms of affordable housing, job placement programs, 792 00:49:02,807 --> 00:49:05,910 training programs, vocational programs, compensation legislation. 793 00:49:05,944 --> 00:49:08,346 That money really should come back to these folks... 794 00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:10,416 and try to help them resettle their lives. 795 00:49:10,449 --> 00:49:13,718 Feels wonderful. It's wonderful. 796 00:49:13,752 --> 00:49:15,920 I waited a long time. 797 00:49:15,954 --> 00:49:18,056 They assume that when they get out, 798 00:49:18,089 --> 00:49:20,058 not only should they have their life back, 799 00:49:20,091 --> 00:49:22,460 but their life should be easier. 800 00:49:22,494 --> 00:49:25,597 And yet what they find is not what they expect. 801 00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:28,533 In the ordinary world no one is dealing... 802 00:49:28,566 --> 00:49:32,069 with something as profound as what happened to them. 803 00:49:32,102 --> 00:49:34,905 And yet, they have something profound to say. 804 00:49:34,938 --> 00:49:38,609 And they have something profound that they've experienced. 805 00:49:38,642 --> 00:49:43,881 Calvin, if we were to ask your neighbors if they remember the crime, 806 00:49:43,914 --> 00:49:46,551 and do they know that you're out, would you mind that? 807 00:49:46,584 --> 00:49:49,754 What you gonna benefit from it? Tell me that. 808 00:49:49,788 --> 00:49:53,791 It's the same thing with going to talk to the prosecutor's office. 809 00:49:53,824 --> 00:49:58,462 To understand what he's thinking makes me better understand... 810 00:49:58,495 --> 00:50:00,464 what's going on with the people... 811 00:50:00,497 --> 00:50:03,033 that we're trying to get involved in helping you. 812 00:50:05,469 --> 00:50:08,772 [ Man ] Is it tragic that he spent 20 years behind bars, 813 00:50:08,806 --> 00:50:12,742 when, if we had the evidence 20 years ago, we wouldn't have prosecuted him? 814 00:50:12,775 --> 00:50:14,777 Of course, yeah. It's tragic. 815 00:50:14,811 --> 00:50:18,781 But that doesn't mean he was wrongly convicted. Because he wasn't. 816 00:50:18,815 --> 00:50:21,784 The system worked exactly like it was supposed to. 817 00:50:21,818 --> 00:50:26,557 So, you know, the government doesn't owe an apology to anybody about that. 818 00:50:26,590 --> 00:50:28,826 This is just one of those horrible, horrible things. 819 00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:32,863 When you left, did they give you anything to take with you? 820 00:50:32,896 --> 00:50:34,864 Any money? A-Anything? 821 00:50:34,897 --> 00:50:37,567 Yeah, they turned their back, you know? 822 00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:40,069 Nobody shook my hand. Nobody told me they're sorry. 823 00:50:40,103 --> 00:50:42,472 And that's where Mrs. Vollen comes in. 824 00:50:42,505 --> 00:50:46,542 How did you feel that you do have somebody on your side, people willing to help you? 825 00:50:46,576 --> 00:50:48,711 Well, I consider her a close friend. 826 00:50:48,745 --> 00:50:52,982 Uh, and it's sad to say that someone in another state... 827 00:50:53,015 --> 00:50:56,952 has to come to your state, you know, to get you support. 828 00:50:56,985 --> 00:51:00,523 Because they don't have a compensation bill here in Louisiana. 829 00:51:00,556 --> 00:51:02,725 And it don't seem like they want to get one. 830 00:51:06,863 --> 00:51:09,866 [ Calvin ] I was sent to prison for a mistake that I didn't make. 831 00:51:09,899 --> 00:51:12,635 It was a mistake that other people made. 832 00:51:12,668 --> 00:51:16,638 And it took them 22 years to correct their mistake. 833 00:51:16,671 --> 00:51:19,775 [ Vollen ] His plan is to get a barber's license, 834 00:51:19,808 --> 00:51:22,077 and eventually open up one of his own shops. 835 00:51:22,110 --> 00:51:24,079 But in order to do that, he has to get his G.E.D. 836 00:51:24,112 --> 00:51:26,715 So he's enrolled in a G.E.D. program. 837 00:51:26,748 --> 00:51:28,717 And since you're in the business community, 838 00:51:28,750 --> 00:51:31,019 you probably know what the opportunities are. 839 00:51:31,052 --> 00:51:34,789 I think you are the group that offers the greatest promise... 840 00:51:34,822 --> 00:51:36,657 to really make a difference. 841 00:51:40,228 --> 00:51:41,997 [ No Audible Dialogue ] 842 00:51:42,030 --> 00:51:43,999 [ Calvin ] I want what everybody else want. 843 00:51:44,032 --> 00:51:46,968 I want the right to be free. I want the right to live free. 844 00:51:47,002 --> 00:51:48,937 I want the right to be able to-- 845 00:51:48,970 --> 00:51:51,440 to support a family. 846 00:51:51,473 --> 00:51:55,110 I want my own home. I want my own car. 847 00:51:55,143 --> 00:51:59,447 I want, you know, all the things that-- where I can live co-- 848 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,882 I want to be financially secure. 849 00:52:01,916 --> 00:52:04,452 [ Woman ] Mr. Willis? 850 00:52:04,485 --> 00:52:07,221 [ Calvin ] I'm not just trying to get compensation for me. 851 00:52:07,254 --> 00:52:10,724 I'm trying to get compensation for the guys that come out before me, 852 00:52:10,758 --> 00:52:12,860 for the guys that's gonna come out after me. 853 00:52:12,893 --> 00:52:15,130 You see, this is my reason. 854 00:52:15,163 --> 00:52:18,632 You know, I could easily just come out and say, "I'm free." [ Woman ] Right. 855 00:52:18,666 --> 00:52:20,968 You know? And not do anything. And not do anything. 856 00:52:21,001 --> 00:52:24,505 Right. Okay. What it is that we can do in the city of Shreveport... 857 00:52:24,538 --> 00:52:27,007 to come on board to assist Calvin-- 858 00:52:27,041 --> 00:52:30,211 And you can't do it without a willingness from the community... 859 00:52:30,244 --> 00:52:33,147 to accept you back in a meaningful way. 860 00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:35,783 [ Woman ] And anyone out there-- 861 00:52:35,816 --> 00:52:39,519 They need to do what if they would like to participate? 862 00:52:39,552 --> 00:52:42,555 [ Vollen ] They need to join tonight at the Temple of Vision. 863 00:52:42,589 --> 00:52:46,860 And I hope to see as many of you listening right now as possible in about five minutes. 864 00:52:46,893 --> 00:52:51,732 After being gone for 22 years, and coming home... 865 00:52:51,765 --> 00:52:54,602 and staying with my grandmother-- 866 00:52:54,635 --> 00:52:57,237 I'm 45 years old. [ Laughing ] 867 00:52:57,270 --> 00:53:02,208 You know? "We know after 22 years that you've been locked up in Angola. 868 00:53:02,242 --> 00:53:04,577 Could you tell us, are you angry?" 869 00:53:04,611 --> 00:53:06,646 [ Laughing ] 870 00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:09,215 I mean, you know, would you be angry? 871 00:53:09,249 --> 00:53:11,084 Yeah. 872 00:53:11,117 --> 00:53:14,654 I said, "Anger stagnates a person's growth." 873 00:53:14,687 --> 00:53:17,257 [ Woman ] Yeah, all right! [ Applauding ] 874 00:53:17,290 --> 00:53:22,828 I can't allow myself to be angry. [ Man ] All right. 875 00:53:22,861 --> 00:53:27,533 He said, "Well, do you plan to find employment?" 876 00:53:27,566 --> 00:53:29,802 I said, "Yeah. Do you have any suggestions?" 877 00:53:29,836 --> 00:53:32,872 [ Laughing ] 878 00:53:35,808 --> 00:53:38,877 I worked for four cents an hour in Angola. 879 00:53:38,911 --> 00:53:42,648 That's a great big old plantation. 880 00:53:42,681 --> 00:53:47,052 You know. So, if I can't come out here, you know, and work, 881 00:53:47,085 --> 00:53:49,054 then that's sad. 882 00:53:49,087 --> 00:53:51,623 All right. 883 00:53:51,657 --> 00:53:53,258 All right. Thank y'all. 884 00:54:09,708 --> 00:54:12,244 [ Man ] My father, highway patrolman-- 885 00:54:12,277 --> 00:54:14,880 He used to always tell us, "Look, 886 00:54:14,913 --> 00:54:18,317 America has the best justice system." 887 00:54:18,350 --> 00:54:20,585 He used to always tell us that. 888 00:54:20,618 --> 00:54:23,154 When I got tried and found guilty, 889 00:54:23,187 --> 00:54:27,692 my whole faith, my whole belief was shattered... 890 00:54:27,725 --> 00:54:29,694 about the justice system. 891 00:54:29,727 --> 00:54:33,364 Being trained as a law enforcement officer, 892 00:54:33,397 --> 00:54:36,300 there are certain things that you can't overlook. 893 00:54:38,736 --> 00:54:41,705 That's probably something that I'm gonna have to live with... 894 00:54:41,738 --> 00:54:43,641 for the rest of my life, because there was some doubt there. 895 00:54:43,674 --> 00:54:46,310 I-- I really did doubt Herman. 896 00:54:46,344 --> 00:54:49,080 But it was just based on the training that I've gotten over the years... 897 00:54:49,113 --> 00:54:51,182 to go with the evidence. 898 00:54:51,215 --> 00:54:54,752 And I should have gone with the love for the child... 899 00:54:54,785 --> 00:54:57,888 rather than the evidence. 900 00:54:57,922 --> 00:55:00,991 To have somebody in the family labeled as a rapist-- 901 00:55:01,024 --> 00:55:03,660 not only are you frowned upon, 902 00:55:03,693 --> 00:55:07,297 but it became a serious issue where the matter was swept under the rug. 903 00:55:09,766 --> 00:55:11,735 [ Elmer ] I did not visit him in prison. 904 00:55:11,768 --> 00:55:17,140 I've always felt that my job is to put people in jail, not to visit folks in jail. 905 00:55:17,173 --> 00:55:18,908 And that's what I told Herman. 906 00:55:20,444 --> 00:55:22,912 [ Herman ] I'm gonna always be a step behind. 907 00:55:22,946 --> 00:55:25,382 I shouldn't have to be a step behind. 908 00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:34,124 [ Herman ] Thank you. [ Man ] Thank you very much. Have a great day, my friend. 909 00:55:34,157 --> 00:55:36,326 You happy, right? Huh? 910 00:55:36,359 --> 00:55:39,229 You happy. Yes. Most definitely. Thank you, man. 911 00:55:39,262 --> 00:55:42,297 [ Chattering ] 912 00:55:47,269 --> 00:55:49,438 [ Herman ] My grandmother-- 913 00:55:49,471 --> 00:55:51,874 Her thing is, "Herman, I know you didn't do it. 914 00:55:51,907 --> 00:55:54,276 The truth will come to light." 915 00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:59,416 She has this saying that, "A lie dies, but the truth lives on." 916 00:56:00,784 --> 00:56:04,053 She's a big advocate for education. 917 00:56:04,086 --> 00:56:06,288 And for me to obtain an education. 918 00:56:06,321 --> 00:56:09,324 "Congratulations. Enjoy the gift... 919 00:56:09,358 --> 00:56:11,960 "before the next phase in your life begins. 920 00:56:11,994 --> 00:56:16,098 "Whatever your endeavor, I know you will succeed. 921 00:56:16,131 --> 00:56:20,169 "You are, and will remain, an inspiration to us all, Herman. 922 00:56:20,202 --> 00:56:24,872 All best. Justin Brooks and the entire California Innocent Project." 923 00:56:27,942 --> 00:56:30,411 I'm gonna be getting drunk in a minute, huh, mom? 924 00:56:30,445 --> 00:56:32,513 Yep. It's all that imported beer. 925 00:56:36,819 --> 00:56:39,421 [ Herman ] When I was incarcerated, my thought was, 926 00:56:39,455 --> 00:56:42,757 not only did I want an education, but I want a doctor's degree in psychology. 927 00:56:44,892 --> 00:56:47,028 After I was released, and fightin' one battle, 928 00:56:47,061 --> 00:56:49,731 we immediately went into another battle. 929 00:56:49,764 --> 00:56:54,836 My mother had cancer and died about a year after I was released. 930 00:56:54,869 --> 00:56:57,839 So she wasn't here to see me reach this milestone. 931 00:56:57,872 --> 00:56:59,741 So, I'm gonna go and let her know that... 932 00:56:59,774 --> 00:57:02,110 today is one of them days. 933 00:57:42,349 --> 00:57:44,316 There's not a time that I don't go there... 934 00:57:44,350 --> 00:57:47,086 and-- and not walk away in tears. 935 00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:50,357 Because every time I do go there, and what have you, 936 00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:52,959 I-- I just feel like I'm cheated out of life. 937 00:57:54,561 --> 00:57:59,866 When I look at Herman and see what he has gone through, 938 00:57:59,900 --> 00:58:02,202 uh, it's just amazing to me. 939 00:58:02,235 --> 00:58:05,805 There's a lot of strength there. A lot of inner strength. 940 00:58:05,838 --> 00:58:09,141 [ Chattering ] [ Band: "Pomp and Circumstance" ] 941 00:58:13,445 --> 00:58:16,348 [ Man On P.A. ] Herman Atkins. 942 00:58:16,382 --> 00:58:18,884 [ Cheering ] 943 00:58:21,086 --> 00:58:23,923 [ Man On P.A. ] Football scholarship. 944 00:58:54,319 --> 00:58:57,856 [ Wilton ] From my understanding, it's an evidentiary hearing... 945 00:58:57,889 --> 00:59:00,024 for a new trial and possible release, 946 00:59:00,058 --> 00:59:02,027 depending on what the judge decides. 947 00:59:02,061 --> 00:59:04,563 I'm hoping that he will dismiss the charges... 948 00:59:04,597 --> 00:59:06,531 and allow me to go home finally. 949 00:59:10,568 --> 00:59:13,238 [ Man On Intercom, Indistinct ] 950 00:59:13,271 --> 00:59:15,006 [ Woman On Intercom, Indistinct ] 951 00:59:20,545 --> 00:59:22,280 [ Man ] Just have a seat. Pull up a chair. 952 00:59:23,548 --> 00:59:27,184 Hey, how you doin'? Hello. All right. 953 00:59:28,185 --> 00:59:30,354 Nice to see you. 954 00:59:30,387 --> 00:59:32,356 Well, how's everything going? 955 00:59:32,389 --> 00:59:35,125 Pretty good. Yeah? 956 00:59:35,158 --> 00:59:39,197 You know, we've been talking for a long time about, "It could be now. It could be now." 957 00:59:39,230 --> 00:59:42,033 Um, I think the judge is ready to do the right thing. 958 00:59:42,066 --> 00:59:44,035 I think he needs to hear from the scientist. 959 00:59:44,068 --> 00:59:46,604 He may find himself a little confused by the numbers tomorrow... 960 00:59:46,638 --> 00:59:48,605 and need some time to think it over. 961 00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:51,675 But we're feeling good. And so, you know, it could be tomorrow. 962 00:59:51,708 --> 00:59:56,380 It could be next week. I wish I had a crystal ball and could tell you. 963 00:59:56,413 --> 00:59:59,349 I can't imagine what it must feel like at this point. 964 00:59:59,383 --> 01:00:01,919 Kind of stuck. I'm not sure on this-- 965 01:00:01,952 --> 01:00:04,121 Yeah. 966 01:00:04,154 --> 01:00:06,323 Have you talked to your folks? Were you able to call them from here? 967 01:00:06,356 --> 01:00:09,325 Yes, ma'am. Talked to 'em last night. Good. 968 01:00:09,358 --> 01:00:11,994 They already said they won't let you wear street clothes. But we'll bring 'em... 969 01:00:12,028 --> 01:00:14,163 just in case we need 'em later. Okay. 970 01:00:14,196 --> 01:00:16,266 Otherwise, I'll see you tomorrow afternoon. Okay. 971 01:00:16,300 --> 01:00:19,069 Okay? All right. Try to get some rest. 972 01:00:19,102 --> 01:00:20,671 Yeah. I'll try. Yeah, it's a little loud here, huh? 973 01:00:20,704 --> 01:00:23,607 [ Door Buzzes ] 974 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,243 See you back here tomorrow. Okay. See you tomorrow. 975 01:00:26,276 --> 01:00:28,744 Good luck. 976 01:00:30,479 --> 01:00:33,015 Hello. How are you? How are you? 977 01:00:33,049 --> 01:00:36,619 Good, thanks. Good to see ya. 978 01:00:36,652 --> 01:00:39,155 Yeah. Hello. How are you? 979 01:00:41,023 --> 01:00:44,026 [ Nina ] I did. I did. It was getting a little late. 980 01:00:44,060 --> 01:00:47,563 [ Mary ] See, this is bigger than what you can even buy in the grocery store. 981 01:00:47,596 --> 01:00:51,266 And that little one right there ended up having three tops to it. 982 01:00:51,299 --> 01:00:53,336 First time I ever had one of those to happen. Really? 983 01:00:53,369 --> 01:00:55,338 [ Nina ] Some kind of mutant DNA in there. 984 01:00:55,371 --> 01:00:58,541 [ Laughing ] Maybe we'll take the pineapple to court. 985 01:00:58,574 --> 01:01:03,746 "Judge, those statistics are as reliable as this three-topped pineapple." 986 01:01:05,548 --> 01:01:08,017 How are you guys doin'? 987 01:01:08,050 --> 01:01:10,085 I'm, like-- kind of like Wilton. I'm not tryin' to-- 988 01:01:10,118 --> 01:01:13,688 Tryin' not to build up too high. Yeah. Well, that's probably smart. 989 01:01:13,722 --> 01:01:16,591 You guys have been through so much. And, you know, you've waited so long. 990 01:01:16,624 --> 01:01:18,593 You know, and you've had your hopes up. 991 01:01:18,626 --> 01:01:20,562 When you first got the results back, I'm sure-- 992 01:01:20,595 --> 01:01:23,231 [ Mary ] We thought it was gonna be quick. 993 01:01:23,264 --> 01:01:25,700 Most prosecutors are inclined to do the right thing, 994 01:01:25,734 --> 01:01:28,570 and, at least give the guy a new trial, because they know the evidence is so different. 995 01:01:28,603 --> 01:01:31,272 I wish I could say what was going on in their heads now. 996 01:01:31,306 --> 01:01:35,410 For a prosecutor to say, though, that eyewitness is better than DNA, 997 01:01:35,443 --> 01:01:37,512 I-- I don't understand it. Yeah. 998 01:01:37,545 --> 01:01:39,581 - And that was one of his statements. - Twenty-two years ago... 999 01:01:39,614 --> 01:01:42,217 there was no way to measure that. 1000 01:01:42,250 --> 01:01:44,686 You know, there's a new study that just came out... 1001 01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:47,622 of all the people who've been exonerated in the U.S. over the last 15 years. 1002 01:01:47,655 --> 01:01:51,258 And they found that eyewitness misidentification... 1003 01:01:51,291 --> 01:01:54,094 was the single leading cause of all of the wrongful convictions. 1004 01:01:54,128 --> 01:01:57,798 And in rape cases, 88% of them involve mistaken I.D. 1005 01:01:57,831 --> 01:02:01,802 We've got a place for Wilton when he gets here. 1006 01:02:01,835 --> 01:02:04,204 If he needs to make changes, we'll make changes, 1007 01:02:04,238 --> 01:02:09,144 or try to fix it up so he can be here as long as he needs to. 1008 01:02:12,346 --> 01:02:14,848 But we're ready for our boy to come home. 1009 01:02:22,156 --> 01:02:24,691 How are ya? 1010 01:02:24,725 --> 01:02:26,760 [ Vincent ] Things can never be the same. 1011 01:02:26,794 --> 01:02:29,196 The state must give something back. 1012 01:02:29,229 --> 01:02:31,532 My mom-- all she thinks of is, "Thank God that you're home. 1013 01:02:31,565 --> 01:02:33,766 Thank God that you're home." 1014 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:36,402 I don't have anything to offer my family but love. 1015 01:02:37,870 --> 01:02:41,507 I said to them, "My son couldn't have done this... 1016 01:02:41,541 --> 01:02:45,512 "because he was sitting down with us watching television that evening. 1017 01:02:45,546 --> 01:02:48,315 So it's no way possible." 1018 01:02:48,348 --> 01:02:52,252 They say parents say anything for their children. 1019 01:02:52,286 --> 01:02:54,587 And I'm just praying... 1020 01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:59,492 that there will be something that's able to be done. 1021 01:02:59,525 --> 01:03:04,464 If we can't get compensated, my God, it'll help someone else. 1022 01:03:04,497 --> 01:03:08,101 And thank God for that. Thank you very much. 1023 01:03:08,134 --> 01:03:10,570 [ Vincent ] I tried to get a compensation bill... 1024 01:03:10,603 --> 01:03:12,705 for people who are wrongfully incarcerated. 1025 01:03:12,738 --> 01:03:15,140 Nothing's never happened yet. 1026 01:03:15,173 --> 01:03:17,542 I mean, I've been doing this for years and years. 1027 01:03:17,576 --> 01:03:21,214 How long have you been home? I've been home going on seven years now. 1028 01:03:21,247 --> 01:03:24,650 The jobs I get-- [ Scoffs ] Temporary work. 1029 01:03:24,684 --> 01:03:27,487 It's hard trying to support my children... 1030 01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:30,690 on a little basic job, or what public assistance gives me. 1031 01:03:30,723 --> 01:03:35,327 My mom and dad spent over $150,000 on lawyer fees. 1032 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:37,329 That was their retirement money. 1033 01:03:37,362 --> 01:03:40,465 Now they struggle and got to work again at 68. 1034 01:03:40,499 --> 01:03:43,702 They should be retiring in the Bahamas somewhere, relaxing, 1035 01:03:43,735 --> 01:03:45,770 all them years they worked all their life. 1036 01:03:45,804 --> 01:03:49,241 No, they're struggling, trying to pay bills, and do this and do that. 1037 01:03:49,274 --> 01:03:52,444 Me? I can't help 'em. I ain't able to help myself. 1038 01:03:52,477 --> 01:03:55,779 Their struggling, but you're their son. Right. 1039 01:03:55,813 --> 01:03:58,850 And if your son was in the situation, you would struggle to help him. 1040 01:03:58,884 --> 01:04:02,320 How do I feel when you got a history of parents being there... 1041 01:04:02,354 --> 01:04:04,322 for me and my brothers and sisters, 1042 01:04:04,356 --> 01:04:07,325 but I can't even be there for my own children? 1043 01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:09,794 I'm not really coming down on myself, 1044 01:04:09,828 --> 01:04:13,765 but it leads to that depression, because I don't want to come down on nobody else. 1045 01:04:13,798 --> 01:04:18,536 [ Piano: Soft ] [ Man Humming ] 1046 01:04:28,679 --> 01:04:30,748 The verse starts here. 1047 01:04:36,387 --> 01:04:38,956 [ Vincent ] It was music that I think kept part of my sanity... 1048 01:04:38,989 --> 01:04:41,358 while I was incarcerated, 1049 01:04:41,392 --> 01:04:44,828 because it soothes my soul, it keeps me calm, 1050 01:04:44,862 --> 01:04:47,831 keeps me focused, relaxes me-- 1051 01:04:47,865 --> 01:04:50,701 it takes me to another world, puts me in another place. 1052 01:04:51,869 --> 01:04:53,871 [ Continues ] 1053 01:05:14,592 --> 01:05:17,994 [ Man ] He was wrongfully incarcerated... 1054 01:05:18,027 --> 01:05:20,263 for about 10 years. [ Congregation Murmurs ] 1055 01:05:20,296 --> 01:05:24,400 And we thank God that the Lord seen fit... 1056 01:05:24,434 --> 01:05:27,270 to make a way to release him. 1057 01:05:27,303 --> 01:05:29,372 [ Man ] Oh, yeah. [ Man #2 ] Amen. 1058 01:05:31,541 --> 01:05:33,977 [ Man On P.A. ] Now, that's something to thank God about. 1059 01:05:42,384 --> 01:05:45,887 You know, sometimes when you're in a position like he was in, 1060 01:05:45,921 --> 01:05:49,492 sometimes it's hard for people to accept you. [ Man ] Oh, yes. Yes. 1061 01:05:49,525 --> 01:05:52,695 Sometimes it's hard to even get employment. 1062 01:05:52,729 --> 01:05:54,664 [ Congregants Affirm ] 1063 01:05:54,697 --> 01:05:57,366 So, we want to pray for him, [ Congregants Affirm ] 1064 01:05:57,399 --> 01:05:59,568 and that the Lord will open doors for him. 1065 01:06:01,603 --> 01:06:05,841 That he will move forward in the name of the Lord. Amen. 1066 01:06:05,874 --> 01:06:08,710 Back to me right now 1067 01:06:08,744 --> 01:06:10,712 Oh, right now 1068 01:06:10,746 --> 01:06:12,714 I thank the Lord 1069 01:06:12,748 --> 01:06:14,716 Yes, that's His name 1070 01:06:14,750 --> 01:06:17,985 Right now Oh, right now 1071 01:06:18,019 --> 01:06:21,389 [ Continues, Indistinct ] 1072 01:06:30,599 --> 01:06:32,567 [ Donat ] Yep. Okay. 1073 01:06:32,601 --> 01:06:34,336 Yeah. Bye. Bye. 1074 01:06:51,986 --> 01:06:55,056 [ Dennis ] I'm a P.M. mechanic-- that's for "preventive maintenance." 1075 01:06:55,089 --> 01:06:58,559 I work from 10:00 at night till 6:30 in the morning. 1076 01:07:03,397 --> 01:07:05,366 The day he came in here, he told me what happened. 1077 01:07:05,399 --> 01:07:07,468 I told him I didn't care what happened to him... 1078 01:07:07,501 --> 01:07:09,036 as long as you can fix trucks, 'cause that's what we do here. 1079 01:07:10,871 --> 01:07:13,374 He's actually a good worker. He's from the old school. 1080 01:07:13,407 --> 01:07:15,376 There are not too many guys like that left anymore. 1081 01:07:15,409 --> 01:07:18,879 It's amazing how quick he's picked up, because with the computers-- 1082 01:07:18,913 --> 01:07:21,348 and he's kind of back from the old-school days... 1083 01:07:21,381 --> 01:07:23,350 when it's all carburetors and manual pumps and stuff. 1084 01:07:23,383 --> 01:07:25,352 He's pickin' right up on it. 1085 01:07:25,385 --> 01:07:27,454 And I'm really surprised he's not so sour. 1086 01:07:27,487 --> 01:07:29,522 Knowing what happened to him, I'd be pretty sour. 1087 01:07:29,556 --> 01:07:31,091 He's got a good attitude. 1088 01:07:40,734 --> 01:07:45,505 [ Dennis ] Other exonerees hold onto the anger and bitterness about what happened to 'em. 1089 01:07:45,538 --> 01:07:47,941 I got lucky in that I was able to do therapy... 1090 01:07:47,974 --> 01:07:50,143 and deal with it that way. 1091 01:07:50,176 --> 01:07:53,012 I don't blame the victims or anything like that. 1092 01:07:53,046 --> 01:07:55,982 I put the blame where I think the blame belongs, 1093 01:07:56,015 --> 01:07:57,984 and that's with the police. 1094 01:07:58,017 --> 01:08:01,854 I look at it as, if I'm angry and bitter towards everybody, 1095 01:08:01,887 --> 01:08:04,656 then I won't be a productive person in life, 1096 01:08:04,690 --> 01:08:08,594 and then I won't get the things that I want or the things that I can get. 1097 01:08:08,627 --> 01:08:10,162 So-- 1098 01:08:11,897 --> 01:08:13,632 Sure, I still have my days. 1099 01:08:18,204 --> 01:08:22,608 Get married and have children-- pretty much my hope for the future. 1100 01:08:22,641 --> 01:08:25,577 Buy a house. You know, settle down. 1101 01:08:25,611 --> 01:08:27,579 Get back to society. 1102 01:08:27,613 --> 01:08:30,416 Now most women are afraid of me. 1103 01:08:30,449 --> 01:08:32,985 You know, I explain to them I've been exonerated. 1104 01:08:33,018 --> 01:08:34,753 And they get all freaked out. 1105 01:08:36,555 --> 01:08:39,892 This is, uh, match.com. This is Yahoo! Personals. 1106 01:08:39,925 --> 01:08:41,793 And this is Cupid Junction. 1107 01:08:41,826 --> 01:08:45,530 Under dating services, my name's "DNA Dennis." 1108 01:08:45,563 --> 01:08:48,766 You know, I'm number 127. 1109 01:09:03,781 --> 01:09:05,883 [ Man ] Here-- Here, here. [ Man #2 ] What? 1110 01:09:05,917 --> 01:09:08,886 This is new evidence. It's exculpatory evidence. 1111 01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:11,222 Wilton Dedge is entitled to a new trial. [ Nina ] Right. 1112 01:09:11,255 --> 01:09:15,193 I don't care what they do. They want to try to argue some esoteric thing from Venus-- 1113 01:09:15,226 --> 01:09:17,528 Get it in front of the jury with a new and fairer trial... 1114 01:09:17,562 --> 01:09:19,530 where we can present this evidence and then see what they say. 1115 01:09:19,564 --> 01:09:21,532 That's the bottom line. 1116 01:09:21,566 --> 01:09:23,533 They pounded on the hair at trial. 1117 01:09:23,567 --> 01:09:26,536 We now know the hair is not his. All go home. 1118 01:09:26,570 --> 01:09:29,005 End of discussion. There is no other issue. 1119 01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:31,876 It is only a commentary on the State of Florida... 1120 01:09:31,909 --> 01:09:33,978 that you have to assemble this much talent in the room... 1121 01:09:34,011 --> 01:09:36,581 in order to get one guy out of jail that should have been released-- 1122 01:09:36,614 --> 01:09:38,649 Three years ago. More than three years ago. 1123 01:09:45,956 --> 01:09:47,991 [ No Audible Dialogue ] 1124 01:09:55,732 --> 01:09:59,135 [ No Audible Dialogue ] 1125 01:10:01,972 --> 01:10:05,674 Presence of the defendant. We are all here on this matter. 1126 01:10:05,708 --> 01:10:07,710 The State of Florida v. Wilton Dedge. 1127 01:10:07,743 --> 01:10:10,847 [ Nina ] We are here today, Your Honor, to close the circle... 1128 01:10:10,881 --> 01:10:13,750 in what we hope will be the final chapter... 1129 01:10:13,783 --> 01:10:16,720 in Wilton Dedge's 22-year-long ordeal. 1130 01:10:16,753 --> 01:10:19,623 When Mr. Dedge was first tried, the prosecutor told the jury... 1131 01:10:19,656 --> 01:10:21,525 that the hair found on the victim's bedsheet... 1132 01:10:21,558 --> 01:10:24,094 was identical to Wilton Dedge. 1133 01:10:24,126 --> 01:10:26,729 Three years ago, we got the results stating... 1134 01:10:26,762 --> 01:10:29,298 that the two pubic hairs found in that bedsheet... 1135 01:10:29,331 --> 01:10:32,201 did not come from Wilton Dedge to a scientific certainty. 1136 01:10:32,234 --> 01:10:35,738 We intend to show that the DNA evidence you're gonna receive... 1137 01:10:35,771 --> 01:10:38,274 is not only admissible, but that his acquittal... 1138 01:10:38,307 --> 01:10:41,143 would be a virtual certainty. 1139 01:10:41,176 --> 01:10:45,548 [ White ] Is a hair actually proof of innocence? 1140 01:10:45,581 --> 01:10:49,218 The problem is, that hair does not have to be from the perpetrator. 1141 01:10:49,251 --> 01:10:53,889 The semen that was left does. 1142 01:10:53,923 --> 01:10:57,826 The two pubic hairs came from two different people, and could not have come from Wilton Dedge. 1143 01:10:57,860 --> 01:11:01,163 - Is that correct? - That's correct. 1144 01:11:01,196 --> 01:11:04,099 Now, your lab, as I understand it, 1145 01:11:04,133 --> 01:11:06,668 is working with some cutting edge DNA. 1146 01:11:06,701 --> 01:11:10,104 You now have a test that could be used on the "Y" chromosome... 1147 01:11:10,138 --> 01:11:13,107 to either include or exclude Wilton Dedge... 1148 01:11:13,141 --> 01:11:17,211 as the contributor of the sperm cell fraction-- 1149 01:11:17,245 --> 01:11:20,315 [ Expert ] Yes. The State's belief is that we need to back up, 1150 01:11:20,348 --> 01:11:24,853 and the court direct that this evidence be tested. 1151 01:11:24,887 --> 01:11:27,021 [ Scheck ] Would anything that you do with the Y-DNA-- 1152 01:11:27,055 --> 01:11:29,257 would that change your conclusions about the hair? 1153 01:11:29,290 --> 01:11:31,659 [ Expert ] No. Hair evidence is definite. 1154 01:11:31,693 --> 01:11:34,996 Those two hairs are not from Mr. Dedge. 1155 01:11:35,029 --> 01:11:38,800 Frankly, it was that simple then, and it's that simple now. 1156 01:11:38,833 --> 01:11:41,836 If it was his hair, he's guilty. If it's not his hair, 1157 01:11:41,869 --> 01:11:46,074 no jury would convict him beyond a reasonable doubt. 1158 01:11:46,107 --> 01:11:49,042 [ White ] They got a hair that could have come from God knows where. 1159 01:11:49,076 --> 01:11:52,045 And it's not Wilton Dedge's. 1160 01:11:52,079 --> 01:11:55,048 And we oughta just say, "Let that man walk." 1161 01:11:55,082 --> 01:11:59,921 Let the citizens of Brevard County find out if he really is a rapist. 1162 01:11:59,954 --> 01:12:02,790 Let's find out the hard way is what she tells you. 1163 01:12:02,824 --> 01:12:05,393 There deserves to be some finality... 1164 01:12:05,426 --> 01:12:08,095 for victims, for the community. 1165 01:12:08,128 --> 01:12:11,231 But these people don't have to be fair. They aren't fair. 1166 01:12:11,264 --> 01:12:14,368 They don't want to be fair. This is Project Innocence. 1167 01:12:16,803 --> 01:12:20,407 After all of this to-do about whether or not... 1168 01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:22,976 the State of Florida had the courage to allow a man... 1169 01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:25,112 to try to prove his innocence. 1170 01:12:25,145 --> 01:12:28,848 When they fought for three years to keep from having this hearing, 1171 01:12:28,881 --> 01:12:32,818 and fought to not let the evidence be looked at. 1172 01:12:32,852 --> 01:12:34,687 This is not supposed to be another trial. 1173 01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,257 This is supposed to be about whether or not... 1174 01:12:37,290 --> 01:12:39,092 we have submitted evidence to Your Honor... 1175 01:12:39,126 --> 01:12:41,361 that Mr. Dedge... 1176 01:12:41,395 --> 01:12:45,298 would in all probability have been acquitted. 1177 01:12:47,334 --> 01:12:49,735 [ Judge ] Because it is such a serious case, 1178 01:12:49,769 --> 01:12:54,073 has such serious implications for everyone-- 1179 01:12:54,106 --> 01:12:57,877 I feel like I've been thrown a curveball on this. 1180 01:12:57,910 --> 01:13:00,713 I'm gonna have to take some time with it and-- 1181 01:13:00,746 --> 01:13:03,182 and I have to be comfortable with the level of satisfaction... 1182 01:13:03,215 --> 01:13:06,118 in regard to all other aspects of this case, 1183 01:13:06,152 --> 01:13:10,021 but for the Y-DNA. 1184 01:13:10,055 --> 01:13:13,091 So, we're gonna be in recess on this regard... 1185 01:13:13,124 --> 01:13:16,462 and, of course, we're gonna consider that issue. 1186 01:13:19,965 --> 01:13:21,967 Yes, Your Honor. Thank you. 1187 01:13:24,236 --> 01:13:26,439 [ No Audible Dialogue ] 1188 01:13:42,387 --> 01:13:44,956 We're supposed to be about ethics. 1189 01:13:44,989 --> 01:13:48,860 There's supposed to be something called legal ethics. 1190 01:13:48,893 --> 01:13:51,496 I-I-I-I'm just-- I'm horrified by this. 1191 01:13:53,331 --> 01:13:57,135 Wilton Dedge was, uh, very, very small, 1192 01:13:57,168 --> 01:14:00,305 and the perpetrator was described as being very, very big. 1193 01:14:00,338 --> 01:14:04,109 So this was an extremely weak eyewitness identification case. 1194 01:14:04,142 --> 01:14:07,345 And 78% of the time in our DNA exonerations, 1195 01:14:07,378 --> 01:14:09,881 it's been a mistaken eyewitness identification. 1196 01:14:09,914 --> 01:14:12,015 The single greatest cause of the conviction of the innocent. 1197 01:14:17,921 --> 01:14:21,058 [ Woman ] Around 3:00 in the morning, I heard a noise. 1198 01:14:21,091 --> 01:14:23,293 A man jumped on my bed, put a knife to my throat... 1199 01:14:23,327 --> 01:14:25,829 and covered my mouth as I screamed. 1200 01:14:25,863 --> 01:14:30,034 It was at that moment that I knew he was gonna rape me. 1201 01:14:30,068 --> 01:14:33,170 The next thing I knew, 1202 01:14:33,203 --> 01:14:35,239 there were police officers there. 1203 01:14:35,272 --> 01:14:37,307 They said, "Did you think you got a good look at him? 1204 01:14:37,341 --> 01:14:39,309 "Do you think you could recognize him? 1205 01:14:39,343 --> 01:14:43,013 Do you think you can give us a good description of the man who raped you?" 1206 01:14:43,046 --> 01:14:45,382 And I said, "Yes, I do. I looked in his face. 1207 01:14:45,415 --> 01:14:48,886 Yeah, I can identify this man." 1208 01:14:48,919 --> 01:14:51,454 So I sat down, and I began to piece together... 1209 01:14:51,487 --> 01:14:53,956 what my rapist looked like. 1210 01:14:53,990 --> 01:14:55,958 And it went into the newspapers. 1211 01:14:55,992 --> 01:14:58,161 And sure enough, we had a phone call... 1212 01:14:58,194 --> 01:15:02,832 from a woman who said the composite sketch looks so much like a man, 1213 01:15:02,865 --> 01:15:05,068 and his name happens to be Ronald Cotton. 1214 01:15:05,102 --> 01:15:08,138 Ronald Cotton was found guilty of first-degree rape, 1215 01:15:08,172 --> 01:15:10,140 first-degree sexual offense, 1216 01:15:10,174 --> 01:15:12,542 and sentenced to life in prison. 1217 01:15:14,911 --> 01:15:17,346 June of '95, I get a phone call. 1218 01:15:17,380 --> 01:15:20,149 And they said, "Jennifer, you were wrong. 1219 01:15:21,617 --> 01:15:24,520 Ronald Cotton was not your rapist." 1220 01:15:28,391 --> 01:15:31,394 And there's the picture of Bobby Poole, my rapist, 1221 01:15:31,427 --> 01:15:34,830 and Ronald Cotton. 1222 01:15:34,863 --> 01:15:37,899 Ronald's face had become so ingrained in my memory... 1223 01:15:37,933 --> 01:15:40,902 that I didn't even recognize Bobby Poole. 1224 01:15:53,148 --> 01:15:55,116 Y'all didn't get lost, did ya? 1225 01:15:55,150 --> 01:15:57,586 No. But I thought, "I've passed it. I know I passed it." 1226 01:15:57,619 --> 01:15:59,955 No, you didn't though. I know you didn't. 1227 01:15:59,988 --> 01:16:01,990 Good seeing you. Good to see you. 1228 01:16:02,023 --> 01:16:04,192 It's been forever. It's been a long time. It has. 1229 01:16:04,226 --> 01:16:06,228 I was trying to remember when the last time you and I saw each other. 1230 01:16:06,261 --> 01:16:09,431 But I thought I'd obviously seen you the night of my rape. 1231 01:16:09,464 --> 01:16:12,500 It was the physical lineup. I can remember standing there, looking at you, goin', 1232 01:16:12,534 --> 01:16:14,935 "Oh, God." 1233 01:16:14,969 --> 01:16:17,271 Of course not knowing how you were feeling. 1234 01:16:17,304 --> 01:16:19,875 You were probably feeling the same way. 1235 01:16:19,908 --> 01:16:22,077 Yeah, it just tore me all up. 1236 01:16:22,110 --> 01:16:24,279 You know, I said, "Why are they doing this to me?" Right. 1237 01:16:24,312 --> 01:16:26,348 You know, "What did I do to deserve something like this?" Right. 1238 01:16:26,381 --> 01:16:28,583 That's what I'm asking myself. 1239 01:16:28,617 --> 01:16:31,620 I had already saw the drawing of the suspect. I said, "That's not me." 1240 01:16:31,653 --> 01:16:34,655 The guy's ears stuck out at the top. Mm-hmm. 1241 01:16:34,688 --> 01:16:37,491 You were the closest likeness of the drawing. 1242 01:16:37,524 --> 01:16:40,327 You had become my rapist. 1243 01:16:41,962 --> 01:16:44,064 I just couldn't believe it, you know? 1244 01:16:44,098 --> 01:16:46,133 Tilt my head, looked around the court, 1245 01:16:46,166 --> 01:16:48,669 looked at all the jurors and-- 1246 01:16:51,272 --> 01:16:53,641 So, I decided to write my letter... 1247 01:16:53,674 --> 01:16:56,410 requesting to have a DNA done. 1248 01:16:56,443 --> 01:16:59,213 They found out that the evidence had been saved. 1249 01:16:59,246 --> 01:17:03,117 It could have been easily, you know, destroyed. 1250 01:17:03,150 --> 01:17:07,054 So, I knew that I needed to somehow apologize, 1251 01:17:07,087 --> 01:17:10,224 but I didn't know, of course, what you were gonna say to me. Right. 1252 01:17:10,257 --> 01:17:13,427 It took you, like, two seconds. Two-- 1253 01:17:13,460 --> 01:17:15,528 Two seconds to forgive me. I had debated over that issue... 1254 01:17:15,561 --> 01:17:17,530 while I was incarcerated. 1255 01:17:17,563 --> 01:17:20,400 I thought about you. 1256 01:17:20,433 --> 01:17:23,303 I know I can't make up for lost time. I wouldn't even attempt to. 1257 01:17:23,336 --> 01:17:26,673 You know, I just have to live, forgive and keep moving on. 1258 01:17:28,474 --> 01:17:31,277 To say we're friends, it's just-- it's not enough. 1259 01:17:31,311 --> 01:17:36,215 Ronald and I have a relationship that is so unique. 1260 01:17:36,249 --> 01:17:38,584 Change one person's life and you've changed the world. 1261 01:17:38,618 --> 01:17:42,021 So, when you walk out of here... 1262 01:17:42,055 --> 01:17:43,156 when you graduate, 1263 01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:45,224 change the world. 1264 01:17:45,258 --> 01:17:46,993 Don't be afraid to change it. 1265 01:18:00,472 --> 01:18:02,240 [ Man ] How you doin', Governor? Aaron, how are you? 1266 01:18:02,274 --> 01:18:04,242 How you doin'? Good to see you. All right. 1267 01:18:04,276 --> 01:18:06,244 How you been? Hangin' in there, man. 1268 01:18:06,278 --> 01:18:09,281 I'm loaded up here. I see that. What do you got in here? 1269 01:18:09,314 --> 01:18:11,617 Good to see you. My little girl. Just had her on the 29th. 1270 01:18:11,651 --> 01:18:14,420 - Got a real one in there. - Yeah, I ain't waste no time. 1271 01:18:14,454 --> 01:18:17,155 [ Ryan ] Aaron Patterson was one of four men that I had pardoned... 1272 01:18:17,189 --> 01:18:19,992 that had been tortured to confess for crimes they didn't commit, 1273 01:18:20,025 --> 01:18:22,227 and had been sentenced to death row. 1274 01:18:22,260 --> 01:18:24,229 So, what are you doing with all your time? 1275 01:18:24,262 --> 01:18:27,599 Tryin' to get guys jobs, just come out of the penitentiary. 1276 01:18:27,632 --> 01:18:30,469 What do they do with a guy when they turn him loose? Nothin'. 1277 01:18:30,502 --> 01:18:33,372 They give him a bus ticket. They take him to the bus station. 1278 01:18:33,405 --> 01:18:36,141 They make sure they get on the bus, or get on the train. 1279 01:18:36,174 --> 01:18:39,710 And then they-- That's it. 1280 01:18:39,744 --> 01:18:44,482 [ Ryan ] I believed that the death penalty was an important part of the system... 1281 01:18:44,515 --> 01:18:49,421 till I became governor and found out how faulted and flawed it was. 1282 01:18:49,454 --> 01:18:53,625 I was concerned that I may have to look over my shoulder... 1283 01:18:53,658 --> 01:18:59,196 after I left office to find that an innocent person had been executed, 1284 01:18:59,230 --> 01:19:01,665 and I had an opportunity to do something about it and hadn't. 1285 01:19:01,699 --> 01:19:03,667 And I didn't want to live with that. 1286 01:19:03,701 --> 01:19:06,704 Our capital system is haunted by the demon of error. 1287 01:19:06,737 --> 01:19:10,207 Error in determining guilt. 1288 01:19:10,241 --> 01:19:14,712 Error in determining who among the guilty deserves to die. 1289 01:19:14,745 --> 01:19:17,648 Because of all of these reasons today, 1290 01:19:17,681 --> 01:19:20,784 I'm commuting the sentence of all death-row inmates... [ Cheering ] 1291 01:19:20,817 --> 01:19:23,753 to life without the possibility of parole. 1292 01:19:27,391 --> 01:19:30,694 The United States is the only democracy on this planet... 1293 01:19:30,728 --> 01:19:33,364 that executes its prisoners. 1294 01:19:33,397 --> 01:19:38,369 When we talk about human rights and civil rights and liberties for people, 1295 01:19:38,402 --> 01:19:42,672 we should lead the way in those kinds of attempts... 1296 01:19:42,705 --> 01:19:48,378 instead of leading the way in the administration of the death penalty. 1297 01:19:48,411 --> 01:19:51,081 He made it possible for me to have a life, you know. 1298 01:19:51,114 --> 01:19:53,516 He took matters in his own hands, 1299 01:19:53,550 --> 01:19:56,619 and that was a blessing, for me as well as this city, 1300 01:19:56,653 --> 01:19:59,421 this state, and the world. 1301 01:19:59,455 --> 01:20:04,227 You know, it inspires others to take that bold step to do these things. 1302 01:20:04,260 --> 01:20:07,330 When you see an injustice, you must step up and do something about it. 1303 01:20:07,363 --> 01:20:08,832 And that's what we're trying to do out here now. 1304 01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,875 [ Microphone Feeding Back ] 1305 01:20:19,908 --> 01:20:23,812 [ Nick ] Good afternoon. My name is Nicholas James Yarris. 1306 01:20:23,846 --> 01:20:28,150 I spent 23 years on death row for a murder I didn't commit. 1307 01:20:28,183 --> 01:20:31,753 I spent every single day of that in solitary confinement. 1308 01:20:31,787 --> 01:20:36,425 I was released in January of this year after DNA evidence proved me innocent. 1309 01:20:36,458 --> 01:20:39,462 I come out here every week and hand out flyers, 1310 01:20:39,496 --> 01:20:41,763 hoping to get the Delaware County District Attorney... 1311 01:20:41,797 --> 01:20:46,668 to enter the DNA from a murderer into the FBI's data bank. 1312 01:20:46,702 --> 01:20:49,404 Why is this case not solved? 1313 01:20:49,438 --> 01:20:53,242 All I want is the DNA from my murder case... 1314 01:20:53,275 --> 01:20:55,377 entered into the DNA data bank. 1315 01:20:55,410 --> 01:20:57,713 The day that they catch the actual killer... 1316 01:20:57,746 --> 01:21:00,549 I can go on about my life. 1317 01:21:00,582 --> 01:21:05,286 All of the men who were exonerated by DNA on death row, 1318 01:21:05,319 --> 01:21:07,522 the DNA is not in the data bank. 1319 01:21:07,555 --> 01:21:11,292 Delaware County is just denying that they were wrong. 1320 01:21:11,325 --> 01:21:13,761 They tried to murder me. So what? 1321 01:21:13,794 --> 01:21:15,597 It's over with. I'm getting on with my life. 1322 01:21:15,631 --> 01:21:17,933 I apologize. I hope you enjoy your lunch. 1323 01:21:23,471 --> 01:21:25,540 Thanks. 1324 01:21:25,573 --> 01:21:27,742 Thanks. Thanks. 1325 01:21:27,775 --> 01:21:30,378 He's a good man. Thank you, brother. 1326 01:21:30,411 --> 01:21:31,946 Innocent too. 1327 01:21:35,583 --> 01:21:38,486 And you can quote me. 1328 01:21:38,519 --> 01:21:41,722 And the D.A. should be-- 1329 01:21:41,756 --> 01:21:44,457 The whole thing should be brought out in the open, like he's trying to do. 1330 01:21:44,491 --> 01:21:46,426 He's right. 1331 01:21:54,969 --> 01:21:59,240 [ Scott ] I still feel like everybody needs to hear about wrongful imprisonment, 1332 01:21:59,273 --> 01:22:02,742 because everyone's a potential juror. 1333 01:22:02,776 --> 01:22:06,246 When I first got out, I sent out brochures to police academies, 1334 01:22:06,279 --> 01:22:08,648 but I don't think they really want their recruits hearing... 1335 01:22:08,682 --> 01:22:10,817 that they might be arresting somebody innocent. 1336 01:22:12,385 --> 01:22:14,888 The judicial system is its own little world, 1337 01:22:14,921 --> 01:22:17,524 and people don't want to change it. 1338 01:22:17,557 --> 01:22:20,760 People are afraid of change. They're afraid of accountability. 1339 01:22:33,006 --> 01:22:35,976 [ Woman ] One thing I found when I went through the letters-- 1340 01:22:36,009 --> 01:22:38,478 Basic problem is too much power concentrated... 1341 01:22:38,511 --> 01:22:41,781 in the hands of prison staff with no accountability. 1342 01:22:41,815 --> 01:22:44,483 You're only seeing a portion of the letters that were mailed to you. 1343 01:22:44,516 --> 01:22:46,619 According to some of these guys, the mail room officers... 1344 01:22:46,652 --> 01:22:50,489 were shredding quite a few of the letters before they ever went out the door. 1345 01:22:50,522 --> 01:22:53,392 [ Man ] Is that a fact? That's what they're alleging. 1346 01:22:53,425 --> 01:22:55,794 We are running into some barriers. 1347 01:22:55,828 --> 01:22:58,430 I'm hoping-- and I think that we're gonna be working towards... 1348 01:22:58,464 --> 01:23:00,799 breaking down some of those barriers. 1349 01:23:00,833 --> 01:23:03,302 [ Scott ] I know that the prison representative here... 1350 01:23:03,335 --> 01:23:05,536 is going to disagree with everything I'm saying. 1351 01:23:05,570 --> 01:23:09,975 But we went through the letters, and we were appalled at some of the medical conditions there. 1352 01:23:10,009 --> 01:23:13,279 I saw firsthand filing grievances, 1353 01:23:13,312 --> 01:23:15,648 and the indifference-- 1354 01:23:15,681 --> 01:23:17,516 We really feel like action needs to be taken. 1355 01:23:19,985 --> 01:23:21,920 [ Sighs ] 1356 01:23:37,635 --> 01:23:41,039 [ Woman ] Dennis, hi. Of course, I did. 1357 01:23:41,072 --> 01:23:42,840 How you doin'? Good to see you again. How you doin'? 1358 01:23:42,874 --> 01:23:44,643 Good to see you. 1359 01:23:44,677 --> 01:23:46,878 [ Woman ] The State has taken part of their lives, 1360 01:23:46,911 --> 01:23:49,981 and there should be no question that they deserve compensation. 1361 01:23:50,014 --> 01:23:52,784 There is no amount that is enough. 1362 01:23:52,817 --> 01:23:54,786 But the enactment of this legislation which will take place... 1363 01:23:54,819 --> 01:23:56,788 later today and tomorrow... 1364 01:23:56,821 --> 01:23:59,590 is to make a step towards discharging that moral obligation... 1365 01:23:59,624 --> 01:24:01,993 toward these men. 1366 01:24:02,026 --> 01:24:05,862 My name's Dennis Maher. I did 19 years, two months and 29 days. 1367 01:24:11,601 --> 01:24:13,904 This bill goes a long way... 1368 01:24:15,672 --> 01:24:19,676 to, um, straightening out things in our lives, 1369 01:24:19,710 --> 01:24:23,047 like, we still have records even though we've been exonerated. 1370 01:24:23,081 --> 01:24:26,083 This bill expunges our records. 1371 01:24:26,116 --> 01:24:28,819 I went for an apartment. The only way I got the apartment... 1372 01:24:28,852 --> 01:24:30,787 was I brought my exoneration papers. 1373 01:24:32,622 --> 01:24:34,758 For the security check, they would have denied me... 1374 01:24:34,791 --> 01:24:37,527 because I had 16 charges still standing against me, 1375 01:24:37,561 --> 01:24:40,397 even though I was exonerated for all of 'em. 1376 01:24:40,430 --> 01:24:42,766 I want to thank all the politicians... 1377 01:24:42,799 --> 01:24:45,102 for the work they've done. 1378 01:24:45,135 --> 01:24:47,436 And it's been a long road. Thank you. 1379 01:24:47,470 --> 01:24:49,138 [ Applause ] 1380 01:25:00,450 --> 01:25:02,419 [ Scheck ] They want the system changed. 1381 01:25:02,452 --> 01:25:05,756 They want it changed in a way that will benefit everyone-- 1382 01:25:05,789 --> 01:25:07,757 future victims of crimes, 1383 01:25:07,790 --> 01:25:11,894 people that might be picked up falsely, get them exonerated now. 1384 01:25:11,927 --> 01:25:16,465 They want change. Their sacrifice must mean something. 1385 01:25:16,499 --> 01:25:20,970 And it's an important motivator for me and my colleagues... 1386 01:25:21,003 --> 01:25:25,608 to make sure we vindicate the faith they've shown in us. 1387 01:25:25,641 --> 01:25:29,411 What started out as this small, you know, mom-and-pop operation... 1388 01:25:29,444 --> 01:25:31,446 has now mushroomed into a kind of, you know, 1389 01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:33,014 new civil rights movement in this country. 1390 01:25:35,117 --> 01:25:37,586 It's not just about exonerating the innocent. 1391 01:25:37,620 --> 01:25:41,056 It's also about reforming all of criminal justice. 1392 01:25:41,090 --> 01:25:45,094 'Cause once you implement all these reforms, you've actually shifted the paradigm. 1393 01:25:45,127 --> 01:25:47,730 The paradigm that we've lived with now for 40 years... 1394 01:25:47,763 --> 01:25:50,198 is one based on the presumption of guilt. 1395 01:25:50,231 --> 01:25:54,035 It returns it to one based on innocence, 1396 01:25:54,068 --> 01:25:56,905 at least until-- unless proven guilty. 1397 01:25:56,938 --> 01:25:59,674 And also one that understands... 1398 01:25:59,707 --> 01:26:02,544 just how vulnerable our criminal justice system is, 1399 01:26:02,577 --> 01:26:05,780 just how easy it is for truly innocent people to be wrongly convicted. 1400 01:26:13,054 --> 01:26:15,223 - Wilton? - Yeah? 1401 01:26:15,256 --> 01:26:18,793 Hey, it's Nina. Listen, my dear, I have some really good news for you. 1402 01:26:18,827 --> 01:26:22,197 Oh, yeah? We got the report from ReliaGene, 1403 01:26:22,230 --> 01:26:25,033 and you were excluded. All right! 1404 01:26:25,066 --> 01:26:28,102 They got a result, Wilton. They got four markers, 1405 01:26:28,136 --> 01:26:30,938 and you were excluded at three of them. 1406 01:26:30,971 --> 01:26:33,607 Then there's none-- I mean, there's no question whatsoever. 1407 01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:37,845 None at all. All we needed was one marker to prove scientifically... 1408 01:26:37,878 --> 01:26:40,848 that you didn't contribute that semen, and we got three. 1409 01:26:40,881 --> 01:26:43,851 All right! 1410 01:26:43,884 --> 01:26:46,987 I'm feelin' good. I'm feelin'-- feelin' a lot better. 1411 01:26:47,020 --> 01:26:49,790 Listen, Wilton, you don't need me to tell you this, 1412 01:26:49,823 --> 01:26:52,626 but you have done a lot, not just for yourself, but for so many other guys in Florida. 1413 01:26:52,659 --> 01:26:55,529 You were the first, and you won't be the last. 1414 01:27:34,901 --> 01:27:36,636 [ Indistinct ] 1415 01:27:54,152 --> 01:27:57,689 We're the Dedges, to pick up Wilton. 1416 01:27:58,757 --> 01:28:00,692 [ Sighs ] 1417 01:28:02,995 --> 01:28:05,164 [ Woman Speaking, Indistinct ] 1418 01:28:05,197 --> 01:28:07,133 Okay. 1419 01:28:25,884 --> 01:28:28,219 [ Applauding ] 1420 01:28:37,328 --> 01:28:39,229 [ Shutter Clicks ] 1421 01:29:10,260 --> 01:29:11,996 [ Man ] Congratulations. Thank you. 1422 01:29:42,759 --> 01:29:47,196 It don't look the same. We don't look much-- 1423 01:29:47,230 --> 01:29:49,465 You don't look the same either. 1424 01:29:59,042 --> 01:30:00,777 Things have changed. 1425 01:30:10,753 --> 01:30:12,722 I've been locked up 1426 01:30:12,755 --> 01:30:15,891 And the key's been thrown away 1427 01:30:15,924 --> 01:30:18,226 Taken so far away 1428 01:30:18,260 --> 01:30:21,263 From my family 1429 01:30:21,296 --> 01:30:23,865 No more Sunday dinners 1430 01:30:23,899 --> 01:30:26,468 No more midnight snacks 1431 01:30:26,501 --> 01:30:28,770 Please don't cry, my lady 1432 01:30:28,804 --> 01:30:30,973 I'll be back one day 1433 01:30:31,007 --> 01:30:34,277 Let them into your room Your wrist gettin' shackled in cuffs 1434 01:30:34,310 --> 01:30:37,312 There's nothin' to get you stuffed in the back of a truck 1435 01:30:37,345 --> 01:30:39,715 And to you this is some new shit 1436 01:30:39,748 --> 01:30:42,884 'Cause you lookin' at time from the State and you ain't even do shit 1437 01:30:42,918 --> 01:30:45,253 Get a sentence for rape is on some clue shit 1438 01:30:45,287 --> 01:30:48,123 They end up pinning your cases from a few chicks 1439 01:30:48,156 --> 01:30:51,126 Really can't afford to fall But whatever you say or do 1440 01:30:51,159 --> 01:30:53,361 Get you accused in a court of law 1441 01:30:53,395 --> 01:30:56,098 Prison life is so vivid and trite 1442 01:30:56,131 --> 01:30:58,065 Restricted to the distance from your kids and your wife 1443 01:30:58,099 --> 01:31:00,267 Can't slip when you're driven to fight 1444 01:31:00,301 --> 01:31:03,037 And you stressin' 'cause you hopin' they visit or write 1445 01:31:03,070 --> 01:31:05,339 The day's long and the time's hard 1446 01:31:05,372 --> 01:31:07,341 Been an innocent man stuck in a cage 1447 01:31:07,374 --> 01:31:09,044 And finally your mind's scarred 1448 01:31:09,077 --> 01:31:11,480 You face it and you try hard 1449 01:31:11,513 --> 01:31:14,282 But you ain't got to serve a drink to be behind bars 1450 01:31:14,316 --> 01:31:16,284 I've been locked up 1451 01:31:16,318 --> 01:31:19,353 And the key's been thrown away 1452 01:31:19,386 --> 01:31:21,489 Taken so far away 1453 01:31:21,522 --> 01:31:24,458 From my family 1454 01:31:24,492 --> 01:31:27,194 No more Sunday dinners 1455 01:31:27,228 --> 01:31:30,064 No more midnight snacks 1456 01:31:30,097 --> 01:31:32,366 Please don't cry, my lady 1457 01:31:32,399 --> 01:31:35,269 I'll be back one day 1458 01:31:35,302 --> 01:31:38,004 This some cruel shit to face Prison and lifting gates 1459 01:31:38,037 --> 01:31:40,540 People from a different race liftin' weights and gettin' raped 1460 01:31:40,573 --> 01:31:42,542 Prisoners from different states 1461 01:31:42,575 --> 01:31:46,013 Till you got no choice but to keep your mind focused and get in shape 1462 01:31:46,046 --> 01:31:48,315 Criminals here and they watch you close 1463 01:31:48,349 --> 01:31:51,152 Plottin' a knuckle or brawl or choppin' your throat 1464 01:31:51,185 --> 01:31:53,487 Can't wait to shuffle the cards and cop 'em a smoke 1465 01:31:53,521 --> 01:31:56,223 Worry about duckin' the guards and droppin' the soap 1466 01:31:56,257 --> 01:31:58,024 And it's makin' you a nervous wreck 1467 01:31:58,057 --> 01:31:59,959 You ain't deserve the stress 1468 01:31:59,993 --> 01:32:01,961 But you know you're gonna have to rumble to earn respect 1469 01:32:01,995 --> 01:32:04,297 You can't sleep It ain't sweet 1470 01:32:04,330 --> 01:32:07,133 Good morning. So, what's new today? 1471 01:32:07,167 --> 01:32:08,935 I'm walkin' above the ground. 1472 01:32:08,968 --> 01:32:11,137 Ahh. 1473 01:32:11,171 --> 01:32:13,139 Now, you have been so wonderful. 1474 01:32:13,173 --> 01:32:15,475 Oh, thank you so much. Thank you. 1475 01:32:15,508 --> 01:32:18,077 How you doin'? How you doin'? 1476 01:32:18,111 --> 01:32:20,145 Great. Ohh. 1477 01:32:21,413 --> 01:32:23,149 [ Sighs ] 1478 01:32:23,183 --> 01:32:25,151 Finally. Finally! 1479 01:32:25,185 --> 01:32:28,121 Great. I know. I know. 1480 01:32:28,154 --> 01:32:30,490 No more Sunday dinners 1481 01:32:30,523 --> 01:32:33,493 No more midnight snacks 1482 01:32:33,526 --> 01:32:36,029 Please don't cry, my lady 1483 01:32:36,062 --> 01:32:38,498 I'll be back one day 1484 01:32:40,232 --> 01:32:42,601 This is my little thing. 1485 01:32:42,634 --> 01:32:47,306 DNA-- deoxyribonucleic acid-- 1486 01:32:47,339 --> 01:32:50,576 That's God's signature, okay? 1487 01:32:50,609 --> 01:32:53,579 God's signature is never a forgery, 1488 01:32:53,612 --> 01:32:55,581 and his checks don't bounce, all right? 1489 01:32:55,614 --> 01:32:57,549 [ Applauding ] So we all tight. 1490 01:33:05,157 --> 01:33:07,492 Now it's back to the street startin' from scratch 1491 01:33:07,526 --> 01:33:10,195 To get back on your feet and on track with the peeps 1492 01:33:10,229 --> 01:33:13,065 The young full of love and are missin' their father 1493 01:33:13,098 --> 01:33:15,133 'Cause Mommy got 'em used to a different provider 1494 01:33:15,167 --> 01:33:17,469 It's a whole lot to take in 1495 01:33:17,502 --> 01:33:20,938 'Cause you ain't got to be guilty for you to do time in the state pen 1496 01:33:20,972 --> 01:33:23,007 I've been locked up 1497 01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:26,210 And the key's been thrown away 1498 01:33:26,244 --> 01:33:28,546 Taken so far away 1499 01:33:28,579 --> 01:33:31,482 From my family 1500 01:33:31,515 --> 01:33:34,185 No more Sunday dinners 1501 01:33:34,218 --> 01:33:36,655 No more midnight snacks 1502 01:33:36,688 --> 01:33:39,358 Please don't cry, my lady 1503 01:33:39,391 --> 01:33:42,326 I'll be back one day 1504 01:33:42,360 --> 01:33:45,062 Knowin' that I'm innocent Hopin' to make a route 1505 01:33:45,096 --> 01:33:47,632 Thrown in a prison just hopin' to make it out 1506 01:33:47,665 --> 01:33:50,368 Out of my patience Making schemes of breakin' out 1507 01:33:50,401 --> 01:33:52,703 But face it Make it clean or weeded out 1508 01:33:53,305 --> 01:34:53,460 Please rate this subtitle at www.osdb.link/9uekr Help other users to choose the best subtitles 132282

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