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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,436 --> 00:00:04,136 [reporter] The trial of the third person 2 00:00:04,138 --> 00:00:06,468 with ties to the Mineola Swingers Club 3 00:00:06,474 --> 00:00:08,744 came to a stunning halt in Smith County, Monday, 4 00:00:08,742 --> 00:00:10,282 when foster parent John Cantrell, 5 00:00:10,278 --> 00:00:12,808 a man awarded custody of three young siblings, 6 00:00:12,813 --> 00:00:15,483 who allegedly performed at the swingers club, 7 00:00:15,483 --> 00:00:17,353 was arrested in Wood County. 8 00:00:22,223 --> 00:00:27,033 Living in the Cantrell's house was like a torture chamber. 9 00:00:27,895 --> 00:00:30,155 I never felt safe. 10 00:00:30,164 --> 00:00:33,804 And so when I'm starting to see this stuff come on TV 11 00:00:33,801 --> 00:00:35,301 about the swingers club, 12 00:00:35,303 --> 00:00:38,313 and Margie Cantrell bringing these kids involved with it, 13 00:00:40,341 --> 00:00:42,781 how could I do nothing and just sit there 14 00:00:42,776 --> 00:00:45,546 when I knew exactly what those kids were going through? 15 00:00:46,747 --> 00:00:48,017 [Margie] There's no words. 16 00:00:49,583 --> 00:00:51,823 There's really no words to describe it. 17 00:00:54,488 --> 00:00:56,318 It wasn't true, and I knew that. 18 00:00:58,192 --> 00:01:02,802 [tearfully] He never ever did anything. 19 00:01:43,537 --> 00:01:46,407 [Jenna] My early childhood in California, 20 00:01:46,407 --> 00:01:47,907 my biological mom 21 00:01:47,908 --> 00:01:50,178 was doing drugs and drinking a lot 22 00:01:51,011 --> 00:01:52,951 and when CPS found us 23 00:01:52,946 --> 00:01:57,916 we were malnutritioned and in soiled diapers. 24 00:01:57,918 --> 00:02:00,248 Then we went through foster care 25 00:02:00,254 --> 00:02:03,794 and this lady said, "Well, I'll take all of them." 26 00:02:05,193 --> 00:02:06,463 And that was Margie Cantrell. 27 00:02:08,562 --> 00:02:11,032 I thought, "Yes, this sweet lady 28 00:02:11,031 --> 00:02:13,371 and this guy that looks like Santa Claus 29 00:02:13,367 --> 00:02:14,797 wants to be our parents." 30 00:02:17,371 --> 00:02:19,441 But right after I got adopted, 31 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,040 the abuse with both of them started. 32 00:02:24,412 --> 00:02:27,922 When I was 7, that's when John Cantrell started being 33 00:02:27,915 --> 00:02:30,445 very physically sexual with me. 34 00:02:31,652 --> 00:02:35,522 Touching, licking, kissing, 35 00:02:35,523 --> 00:02:37,593 trying to teach us how to French kiss. 36 00:02:40,060 --> 00:02:42,560 John Cantrell would tell me, 37 00:02:42,563 --> 00:02:45,303 "Well if you tell anybody, you're just going to go back to foster care." 38 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,900 Everything with Margie 39 00:02:49,937 --> 00:02:53,037 went very hatefully abusive, 40 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,140 putting her hands around my neck 41 00:02:55,243 --> 00:02:57,713 and just kind of strangling me 42 00:02:57,711 --> 00:03:00,251 and telling me how much she hates me and she wishes I would die. 43 00:03:03,251 --> 00:03:05,021 I was depressed. 44 00:03:05,018 --> 00:03:09,058 I started drinking when I was about 9, 10 years old. 45 00:03:09,056 --> 00:03:13,386 Basically I was trying to self-medicate. 46 00:03:15,696 --> 00:03:19,826 [Margie] When we adopted Jenna, back in 1985, 47 00:03:19,833 --> 00:03:22,703 she had a lot of problems. A lot. 48 00:03:22,703 --> 00:03:25,273 A low, low mentality. 49 00:03:26,006 --> 00:03:28,876 There was a time when she decided 50 00:03:28,876 --> 00:03:30,576 to microwave our cat. 51 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,280 And somebody ran in and got the cat out. 52 00:03:34,282 --> 00:03:35,522 The cat did live, 53 00:03:36,417 --> 00:03:38,447 but it was horrifying. 54 00:03:42,356 --> 00:03:45,686 [Jenna] In 2004, we moved to Texas. 55 00:03:48,729 --> 00:03:51,059 I was 24 at this time. 56 00:03:51,064 --> 00:03:54,304 There's a couple of reasons I had stayed with them for that long. 57 00:03:56,604 --> 00:03:59,714 My confidence was so low 58 00:03:59,707 --> 00:04:02,937 that I really felt like I couldn't live on my own. 59 00:04:04,645 --> 00:04:06,445 I had no ID, 60 00:04:06,447 --> 00:04:08,577 I didn't have my birth certificate, 61 00:04:08,582 --> 00:04:10,682 I didn't have my social security card, 62 00:04:10,684 --> 00:04:11,894 I had nothing. 63 00:04:15,188 --> 00:04:18,158 Margie, she would tell me stuff, like, 64 00:04:18,158 --> 00:04:20,058 "Well, nobody's going to want you anyways." 65 00:04:21,128 --> 00:04:22,798 She would make you feel like you really 66 00:04:22,796 --> 00:04:24,726 couldn't do anything without her. 67 00:04:26,967 --> 00:04:29,467 [Margie] Shortly after we moved to Texas, 68 00:04:29,470 --> 00:04:33,170 Jenna met a man down the block, David, 69 00:04:34,241 --> 00:04:35,711 and they got together. 70 00:04:35,709 --> 00:04:37,879 And they went on and got married. 71 00:04:40,648 --> 00:04:45,218 [Jenna] Margie did not think anything would come out of this relationship. 72 00:04:46,186 --> 00:04:47,956 But It's real. 73 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:49,855 It's a real love that... 74 00:04:49,857 --> 00:04:52,487 Never had that, you know, growing up. 75 00:04:52,493 --> 00:04:55,033 So I still get all the butterflies and everything. 76 00:05:00,634 --> 00:05:03,074 [David] Me and the Cantrells didn't get along. 77 00:05:04,472 --> 00:05:07,382 I could definitely tell something was shady 78 00:05:08,241 --> 00:05:11,381 between Jenna and John. 79 00:05:11,379 --> 00:05:14,979 Just the way they, you know, went about carrying themselves 80 00:05:16,417 --> 00:05:18,487 kind of seemed kind of like hidden. 81 00:05:18,486 --> 00:05:20,586 [reporter] The children were allegedly forced to dance 82 00:05:20,588 --> 00:05:23,158 and perform sexual acts with each other. 83 00:05:23,156 --> 00:05:26,586 [David] And then when I heard their story on the news 84 00:05:26,594 --> 00:05:28,964 about what had happened with these kids, 85 00:05:28,962 --> 00:05:31,162 my wife told me what had happened to her, 86 00:05:32,299 --> 00:05:33,399 you know, in detail. 87 00:05:35,836 --> 00:05:38,666 [Jenna] I was hoping that when I found my husband, 88 00:05:38,672 --> 00:05:42,512 I would never tell him the abuse I went through 89 00:05:42,510 --> 00:05:44,950 because John and Margie both told me 90 00:05:44,945 --> 00:05:47,105 that if I ever said anything, 91 00:05:47,114 --> 00:05:49,854 my spouse or my boyfriend would leave me. 92 00:05:52,653 --> 00:05:55,623 When I told him I started crying, 93 00:05:55,623 --> 00:05:58,593 and he goes, "No no, come here, come here, come here." 94 00:05:58,592 --> 00:06:00,432 And he rocked me in the chair. 95 00:06:00,928 --> 00:06:02,258 And he just held me. 96 00:06:08,436 --> 00:06:10,096 [David] I love my wife very much. 97 00:06:13,441 --> 00:06:15,781 I'm an emotional guy. 98 00:06:15,776 --> 00:06:20,446 So, when I heard those kind of things, it bothered me. 99 00:06:20,948 --> 00:06:22,048 It bothered me a lot. 100 00:06:24,585 --> 00:06:28,555 I suggested that she tell the truth to the authorities. 101 00:06:31,158 --> 00:06:32,228 So she did. 102 00:06:36,263 --> 00:06:39,103 I can say that as far as like accusations go 103 00:06:39,099 --> 00:06:40,469 about my mom and dad, 104 00:06:41,134 --> 00:06:42,474 I knew it wasn't true. 105 00:06:43,170 --> 00:06:44,670 It was straight up lies. 106 00:06:45,739 --> 00:06:48,879 [Jacob] I hold a lot of anger towards Jenna. 107 00:06:48,876 --> 00:06:53,276 When you are willing to lie about somebody 108 00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:56,080 and potentially put them in prison, 109 00:06:56,083 --> 00:06:57,853 I have no room in my life for you. 110 00:07:02,322 --> 00:07:04,562 [Margie] When John was arrested, that hurt, 111 00:07:05,559 --> 00:07:07,389 but I wasn't going to tell Jenna, 112 00:07:07,495 --> 00:07:11,025 "You can't be part of this family. You can't come home." 113 00:07:11,031 --> 00:07:15,401 There's something that is in me that just doesn't give up on them. 114 00:07:19,172 --> 00:07:22,112 And then one night, the kids and I went to Walmart 115 00:07:23,544 --> 00:07:25,054 and Jenna and David were there. 116 00:07:25,045 --> 00:07:26,875 And I said, "Jenna, come here." 117 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,820 And he's like, "No." And she's like, "I can't." 118 00:07:29,817 --> 00:07:33,187 And I'm like, "Jenna, come here." 119 00:07:33,186 --> 00:07:35,056 And she's like, "I can't." 120 00:07:36,223 --> 00:07:37,893 And then Shelby said to me, 121 00:07:37,891 --> 00:07:41,231 "That's the tattooed man that was at the club. 122 00:07:41,228 --> 00:07:43,698 He's the one that was molesting me at that club." 123 00:07:47,935 --> 00:07:51,035 [Jenna] Next morning I get these subpoenas 124 00:07:51,038 --> 00:07:53,608 and they're saying, well, these kids are saying David's name. 125 00:07:53,607 --> 00:07:56,537 And they're saying that he's involved with all this. 126 00:08:30,911 --> 00:08:32,881 [David] I go in with this police officer. 127 00:08:34,748 --> 00:08:37,078 He thought I was affiliated with this swinger's club. 128 00:08:40,688 --> 00:08:44,258 And they asked me to take my clothes down to my underwear 129 00:08:44,992 --> 00:08:46,432 and stand with my arms out. 130 00:08:53,366 --> 00:08:56,596 The children had said that the DJ at the club 131 00:08:56,604 --> 00:08:58,614 had a tattoo of a dragon on his back. 132 00:09:02,275 --> 00:09:04,335 I don't have any tattoos on my back 133 00:09:05,646 --> 00:09:08,616 [Margie] Now whether he was ever at the swinger's club 134 00:09:08,616 --> 00:09:11,446 to just be a swinger or to look at the place 135 00:09:11,451 --> 00:09:14,761 or do anything, that's not for me to decide. 136 00:09:14,755 --> 00:09:17,625 No. No. That's not David. 137 00:09:17,625 --> 00:09:20,455 David's never been like that. It's completely lies. 138 00:09:21,762 --> 00:09:24,102 Margie's getting back at me 139 00:09:24,097 --> 00:09:27,367 because I came out about her and John. 140 00:09:29,369 --> 00:09:31,839 Eventually, the police informed me that 141 00:09:31,839 --> 00:09:34,779 I was no longer needed in the trial. 142 00:09:34,775 --> 00:09:37,645 I knew the capabilities of this woman. 143 00:09:37,645 --> 00:09:39,975 I didn't think it would go that far. 144 00:09:39,980 --> 00:09:42,020 She'd have been happy if I'd have went to prison. 145 00:09:45,686 --> 00:09:47,486 I didn't know nothing about the swinger's club. 146 00:09:55,796 --> 00:09:59,366 [Margie] When John went to court 147 00:09:59,366 --> 00:10:02,136 I sold everything we owned 148 00:10:02,135 --> 00:10:05,065 so I could hire an attorney for my husband. 149 00:10:07,074 --> 00:10:09,044 When we went into the courtroom 150 00:10:09,042 --> 00:10:13,052 the judge heard all of their evidence that they said they had 151 00:10:13,046 --> 00:10:17,886 and he said, "No, I'm not taking this at all." 152 00:10:19,052 --> 00:10:23,262 And the judge said, "Mr. Cantrell, go home." 153 00:10:24,858 --> 00:10:27,658 There was no evidence that was even credible, 154 00:10:27,661 --> 00:10:29,231 so they dropped it. 155 00:10:30,197 --> 00:10:31,597 And that was the end of it. 156 00:10:44,011 --> 00:10:46,511 They threw it out because it was false, 157 00:10:46,513 --> 00:10:48,883 it wasn't what happened. 158 00:10:48,882 --> 00:10:51,892 Anybody can accuse anybody of anything, 159 00:10:51,885 --> 00:10:53,845 it doesn't mean that it's true. 160 00:10:53,854 --> 00:10:57,424 And unless you have actual proof, 161 00:10:58,726 --> 00:11:02,726 maybe just don't try to ruin somebody's life 162 00:11:02,730 --> 00:11:03,830 just because you don't like them. 163 00:11:03,831 --> 00:11:05,971 If you don't like them, just keep it moving. Move on. 164 00:11:09,102 --> 00:11:12,172 Her biological children never got abused, 165 00:11:12,172 --> 00:11:14,372 because they were the real kids. 166 00:11:15,475 --> 00:11:18,545 The ones that would get abused a lot of the times 167 00:11:19,179 --> 00:11:21,249 were her foster kids. 168 00:11:21,248 --> 00:11:23,348 And I believe in her mind she was thinking, 169 00:11:23,951 --> 00:11:24,891 "Nobody wants them." 170 00:11:25,652 --> 00:11:27,122 She's the only way. 171 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,590 She's the only hope that you have in life. 172 00:11:29,589 --> 00:11:32,429 You do what she says and you'll be okay. 173 00:11:32,425 --> 00:11:34,355 If you don't, there's gonna be hell to pay. 174 00:11:36,463 --> 00:11:39,433 [Margie] It was a made-up story. 175 00:11:39,432 --> 00:11:41,972 And I think that that's disgusting. 176 00:11:49,810 --> 00:11:52,080 [Michael] In the community, some people thought 177 00:11:52,079 --> 00:11:55,249 it was just unfair mudslinging 178 00:11:55,248 --> 00:11:58,448 against Margie's husband, kicking against Margie. 179 00:12:00,587 --> 00:12:02,887 But it just seemed such a weird coincidence, 180 00:12:02,890 --> 00:12:06,490 that her husband was being accused of the same thing 181 00:12:06,493 --> 00:12:09,103 that her foster kids were accusing other people of doing. 182 00:12:20,707 --> 00:12:22,807 [Mike] Patrick Kelly's nickname was Booger Red. 183 00:12:24,377 --> 00:12:27,407 And it was Booger Red, who was the one who had the trailer 184 00:12:27,414 --> 00:12:30,124 where apparently the sex kindergarten had taken place. 185 00:12:36,924 --> 00:12:39,594 [Mike] And then they'd come up to Mineola 186 00:12:39,592 --> 00:12:41,232 and they'd dance on stage for money. 187 00:12:48,601 --> 00:12:52,541 [Mike] Patrick Kelly's trial was actually going to be a little bit different. 188 00:12:52,539 --> 00:12:57,279 For one thing, Patrick Kelly's mother cashed in her 401(k) 189 00:12:57,277 --> 00:12:58,377 to get him an actual lawyer. 190 00:12:59,579 --> 00:13:01,849 Patrick Kelly had Thad Davidson, 191 00:13:01,849 --> 00:13:05,319 who was a bulldog of a defense lawyer, 192 00:13:05,318 --> 00:13:09,058 former Marine, very dramatic, and very smart guy. 193 00:13:11,224 --> 00:13:14,194 [Thad] When I first took on the case, I went to the jail 194 00:13:15,195 --> 00:13:16,525 and met with Patrick Kelly. 195 00:13:47,694 --> 00:13:49,904 ...and organized crime. 196 00:13:49,897 --> 00:13:52,197 [Patrick] I didn't even know there was a swingers club in Mineola. 197 00:13:55,035 --> 00:13:56,395 [Thad] I thought he was believable. 198 00:13:56,403 --> 00:13:58,913 He had no prior history of any significance whatsoever. 199 00:14:00,540 --> 00:14:01,910 We looked for fingerprints... 200 00:14:03,010 --> 00:14:03,980 DNA... 201 00:14:05,012 --> 00:14:05,912 Blood... 202 00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:07,806 Other witnesses... 203 00:14:09,016 --> 00:14:10,476 Forensic investigation... 204 00:14:11,118 --> 00:14:12,148 None of which existed. 205 00:14:13,586 --> 00:14:17,486 [Melinda] When Thad came to me and asked for the help, 206 00:14:17,490 --> 00:14:19,930 I really thought that 207 00:14:19,927 --> 00:14:22,297 he was blowing this out of proportion. 208 00:14:23,330 --> 00:14:26,300 But then I start looking through the evidence. 209 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:28,499 That's when I really began to realize that 210 00:14:28,501 --> 00:14:32,271 Thad wasn't overly exaggerating. 211 00:14:34,707 --> 00:14:37,977 I believe he was not guilty of what these kids 212 00:14:37,978 --> 00:14:39,808 and the Cantrells were saying that he did. 213 00:14:44,484 --> 00:14:46,494 Patrick Kelly, was a simple man, 214 00:14:46,486 --> 00:14:47,956 and he lived a simple life. 215 00:14:49,622 --> 00:14:53,632 The big thing for him would be after his hard week of work, 216 00:14:53,626 --> 00:14:57,556 was to go buy a 30 pack of Natural Light Beer 217 00:14:58,465 --> 00:15:01,525 and a family size of chicken legs, 218 00:15:01,534 --> 00:15:04,444 and have the different friends and stuff come over, 219 00:15:04,437 --> 00:15:06,067 and they would barbecue. 220 00:15:06,073 --> 00:15:06,973 [fire crackling] 221 00:15:08,976 --> 00:15:11,436 [Patrick] My world's been turned upside down with all this going on. 222 00:15:27,627 --> 00:15:30,297 [Thad] Patrick Kelly, to be frank, 223 00:15:30,297 --> 00:15:33,897 is a redneck, uneducated, 224 00:15:34,001 --> 00:15:37,141 impoverished, living in a trailer out in the woods. 225 00:15:37,137 --> 00:15:39,007 And in Smith County, that makes you a target. 226 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,110 Soon after I took on the case, a senior officer of Mineola PD 227 00:15:45,112 --> 00:15:50,452 shows up at my office with boxes of information. 228 00:15:50,450 --> 00:15:52,220 She goes, "There's all this stuff that, 229 00:15:52,219 --> 00:15:54,649 we're pretty sure you don't have and have never heard of. 230 00:15:54,654 --> 00:15:56,764 Did you know about this? Did you know about this?" 231 00:15:56,756 --> 00:15:59,926 She gives us all this stuff that we've never seen before. 232 00:16:00,027 --> 00:16:01,757 And I'm sitting there thinking, "Holy [bleep] ." 233 00:16:02,862 --> 00:16:06,332 It was long hidden, exculpatory evidence. 234 00:16:06,333 --> 00:16:08,843 Exculpatory reports, exculpatory interviews, 235 00:16:08,835 --> 00:16:12,835 exculpatory information from June of 2005, 236 00:16:12,839 --> 00:16:15,509 when the Mineola PD and the Wood County DA's office 237 00:16:15,508 --> 00:16:18,408 looked at the case and said, "We don't have anything here". 238 00:16:21,114 --> 00:16:24,524 Anything that tends to show a defendant is not guilty, 239 00:16:24,517 --> 00:16:26,347 must be turned over to the defense. 240 00:16:26,353 --> 00:16:29,663 And the state is not allowed to collect the evidence, 241 00:16:29,656 --> 00:16:32,886 sit on it, hide on it, lie about it, pretend they 242 00:16:32,892 --> 00:16:35,062 don't know about it, which they did. 243 00:16:38,698 --> 00:16:41,268 [Melinda] We had learned before, that swingers club 244 00:16:41,268 --> 00:16:43,068 had already closed down. 245 00:16:43,070 --> 00:16:46,270 A few of the officers, were running license plates 246 00:16:46,273 --> 00:16:47,713 to see who were swingers, 247 00:16:47,707 --> 00:16:50,477 to see if any of them were local, just gossiping. 248 00:16:54,114 --> 00:16:56,784 And so, if we could get those license plates, 249 00:16:56,783 --> 00:17:00,593 then we could get in touch with some of those swingers 250 00:17:00,587 --> 00:17:03,857 to come forward and say that if, or if not, 251 00:17:03,856 --> 00:17:06,356 the defendants were at the swingers club. 252 00:17:08,328 --> 00:17:10,098 So we subpoenaed the records. 253 00:17:11,731 --> 00:17:13,871 Maybe three weeks goes by, 254 00:17:13,866 --> 00:17:16,196 and then they finally responded and said, 255 00:17:17,637 --> 00:17:21,107 as strangely as this is, they couldn't find anything. 256 00:17:22,842 --> 00:17:25,712 Eh, there's no other way to explain that 257 00:17:25,712 --> 00:17:27,482 other than, they were erased. 258 00:17:28,381 --> 00:17:30,821 That was suspicious. 259 00:17:30,817 --> 00:17:33,317 I believe the Texas Rangers made that decision 260 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,490 at that time to erase them. 261 00:17:35,488 --> 00:17:38,828 Because, if they came forward with all the license plates, 262 00:17:38,825 --> 00:17:41,525 but none of the defendant's cars, 263 00:17:41,528 --> 00:17:44,658 not one car came back to them, 264 00:17:45,865 --> 00:17:48,995 well that might prove our client is innocent, 265 00:17:49,001 --> 00:17:51,201 and they wouldn't want to give us that. 266 00:17:51,204 --> 00:17:54,214 And then we learned, another reason they would've done this. 267 00:17:57,710 --> 00:18:01,580 We discovered that officers in Mineola had spoken with 268 00:18:01,581 --> 00:18:05,151 the swingers club owners, Sherry and Russ Adams. 269 00:18:38,551 --> 00:18:40,091 If those officers were in there, 270 00:18:40,187 --> 00:18:41,687 that's not against the law, 271 00:18:41,688 --> 00:18:43,858 but they would've had to have said, 272 00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:45,426 there were no children in there. 273 00:18:45,425 --> 00:18:50,425 And I believe by that point, Ranger Kemp was so involved, 274 00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:53,830 he didn't want this case to stop. 275 00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:56,643 And then we dig deeper and we find out Ranger Kemp 276 00:18:56,636 --> 00:18:59,436 interviewed Sherry Adams in the DA's office, 277 00:18:59,439 --> 00:19:00,309 there in the courthouse. 278 00:19:02,309 --> 00:19:04,339 [Sherry] We were cramped in this little corner office 279 00:19:04,344 --> 00:19:06,454 and he put them pictures out on his desk, 280 00:19:07,046 --> 00:19:07,946 and he slammed them. 281 00:19:07,947 --> 00:19:10,547 "I know who... you know who this is." 282 00:19:10,550 --> 00:19:12,950 -"I don't." -"Well, then you know who this one is." 283 00:19:12,952 --> 00:19:14,092 "No, I don't." 284 00:19:14,086 --> 00:19:15,556 "Well, you know what they've done?" 285 00:19:15,555 --> 00:19:17,685 "No, I don't. I don't know who they are." 286 00:19:17,690 --> 00:19:20,590 He said, "You're a liar. And I'm gonna put you in jail with the rest of them. 287 00:19:20,593 --> 00:19:21,633 You will rot in prison." 288 00:19:24,231 --> 00:19:26,971 [Thad] I'm sitting there thinking, oh my God, this is bad. 289 00:19:26,966 --> 00:19:28,126 This won't even go to trial. 290 00:19:29,101 --> 00:19:30,771 There is no case here. 291 00:19:30,770 --> 00:19:32,570 This is smoke and mirrors [bleep]. 292 00:19:37,710 --> 00:19:41,650 [Melinda] We wanted the recording of that meeting with Sherry Adams. 293 00:19:41,648 --> 00:19:43,678 But there was no recording. 294 00:19:43,683 --> 00:19:45,653 It wasn't in a report. 295 00:19:45,652 --> 00:19:47,152 There was nothing of that. 296 00:19:47,254 --> 00:19:50,524 And to destroy any evidence is illegal. 297 00:19:50,523 --> 00:19:54,363 Kemp testified he wasn't sure if it had been recorded. 298 00:19:54,361 --> 00:19:56,731 But then Thad Davidson found out that 299 00:19:56,729 --> 00:19:58,399 Kemp had actually been interviewed, 300 00:19:58,398 --> 00:20:00,298 by the Attorney General's office, 301 00:20:00,300 --> 00:20:02,400 about the whereabouts of the recording. 302 00:20:53,085 --> 00:20:55,585 [Melinda] In 26 years, a Texas Ranger's never 303 00:20:55,588 --> 00:20:59,558 conducted an investigation on sexual assault of a child 304 00:20:59,559 --> 00:21:01,459 or indecency with a child 305 00:21:01,461 --> 00:21:03,931 or sexual performance by a child. 306 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:06,570 Kemp had no idea what he was doing. 307 00:21:21,681 --> 00:21:24,551 Why are you allowing Margie to sit in on these interviews 308 00:21:24,551 --> 00:21:28,721 and insist and push and force these kids 309 00:21:28,721 --> 00:21:30,061 to say what they said. 310 00:21:39,532 --> 00:21:42,372 [Thad] Kemp did not bother to check out Cantrell. 311 00:21:42,369 --> 00:21:44,539 Kemp did not bother to go, let's talk about you, 312 00:21:44,537 --> 00:21:46,207 let's talk about your background. 313 00:21:46,205 --> 00:21:47,705 That kind of critical thinking 314 00:21:47,707 --> 00:21:49,677 that should have been taking place 315 00:21:49,676 --> 00:21:52,176 by Kemp, or any law enforcement agent, 316 00:21:52,178 --> 00:21:54,508 of Cantrell did not happen. 317 00:21:57,384 --> 00:21:58,924 [Tamara] Thad Davidson was relentless, 318 00:21:58,918 --> 00:22:01,548 he called me over and over again. 319 00:22:01,554 --> 00:22:05,664 He kept saying like, "I'm telling you, this is a set-up." 320 00:22:05,658 --> 00:22:08,958 And so finally, I sat down with him and heard him out. 321 00:22:08,961 --> 00:22:10,901 And I, I saw the passion, 322 00:22:10,897 --> 00:22:13,297 it wasn't just a defense attorney that wanted to 323 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,740 convince me that, his defendant wasn't guilty. 324 00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:18,506 No, he was trying to tell me, like, 325 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:20,935 you don't understand, there's layers to this. 326 00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:22,680 And that was the first time I think my eyes 327 00:22:22,675 --> 00:22:24,435 really, really opened, 328 00:22:24,444 --> 00:22:26,414 to what was taking place and everything. 329 00:22:26,413 --> 00:22:29,023 So, by the time we entered the third trial with, 330 00:22:29,015 --> 00:22:32,075 Patrick Kelly, Booger Red, I was ready, finally, 331 00:22:32,084 --> 00:22:34,324 to kind of get a different side and understand 332 00:22:34,421 --> 00:22:35,791 what the truth is behind all of this. 333 00:22:41,861 --> 00:22:43,801 [Thad] I believed we had a good case, 334 00:22:43,796 --> 00:22:45,796 but the tide was completely against us 335 00:22:45,798 --> 00:22:46,698 when the trial started. 336 00:22:48,234 --> 00:22:51,474 Any time anybody gets arrested on a first-degree, 337 00:22:51,471 --> 00:22:53,711 big sex offense crime, or frankly any 338 00:22:53,706 --> 00:22:56,536 kind of big crime, it's all over the news. 339 00:22:56,543 --> 00:22:59,353 [Tamara] This case is constantly in the headlines. 340 00:22:59,446 --> 00:23:01,506 The media and the newspaper in town, 341 00:23:01,514 --> 00:23:03,554 knew that people were hungry 342 00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:05,020 and that they wanted more, more, more. 343 00:23:05,017 --> 00:23:07,587 Give us more about this Mineola sex ring club. 344 00:23:09,756 --> 00:23:11,886 [Thad] What that means is that the jury pool, 345 00:23:11,891 --> 00:23:15,531 of course, knew about these cases. 346 00:23:15,528 --> 00:23:17,928 If you know about it, it's going to affect you in trial. 347 00:23:20,066 --> 00:23:21,966 [Tamara] Local news was a really big deal. 348 00:23:23,235 --> 00:23:25,465 It was whatever was printed or reported, 349 00:23:25,472 --> 00:23:27,142 was gospel in many ways. 350 00:23:27,139 --> 00:23:30,539 And it did feel like it was very, very dominant, 351 00:23:30,543 --> 00:23:32,713 and heavy-sided for the DA. 352 00:23:32,712 --> 00:23:34,482 [reading] Defense attorney Thad Davidson 353 00:23:34,481 --> 00:23:36,621 says during Friday's pretrial, 354 00:23:36,616 --> 00:23:39,616 he will also ask for a change of venue. 355 00:23:39,619 --> 00:23:41,989 The reason, potential jurors in Smith County 356 00:23:41,988 --> 00:23:45,318 are only seeing one side of the child sex ring story. 357 00:23:56,168 --> 00:23:57,268 [Thad] When the trial started, 358 00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:59,609 we called Margie Cantrell to the witness stand. 359 00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:03,683 We knew that John Cantrell had been indicted out 360 00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:05,806 in California on child sex charges. 361 00:24:05,812 --> 00:24:08,882 The issue is, well, if he's doing it, is she doing it too? 362 00:24:08,881 --> 00:24:10,521 Because people are saying that she is. 363 00:24:10,517 --> 00:24:14,887 We were interviewing former foster kids, now adults. 364 00:24:14,887 --> 00:24:17,757 [Jenna] They were asking me what happened, 365 00:24:17,757 --> 00:24:20,187 and I told them the abuse I went through and I said, 366 00:24:20,192 --> 00:24:24,362 "I know what she's doing because she's done this kind of stuff before." 367 00:24:26,265 --> 00:24:29,735 She was saying, "Margie Cantrell beat us. 368 00:24:29,736 --> 00:24:32,606 Margie Cantrell told us what to say, 369 00:24:32,605 --> 00:24:34,735 Margie Cantrell would punish us 370 00:24:34,741 --> 00:24:37,011 if we didn't say what she wanted us to say 371 00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:38,609 or do what she wanted us to do." 372 00:24:38,611 --> 00:24:40,451 These were adults saying that. 373 00:24:40,547 --> 00:24:41,747 We were ready to destroy her. 374 00:24:44,951 --> 00:24:48,891 The problem is, Margie, with the assistance of her attorney 375 00:24:49,622 --> 00:24:51,392 told her to shut the hell up, 376 00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:53,590 "You are not going to say a damn word on the witness stand 377 00:24:53,593 --> 00:24:55,363 other than 'I take the fifth amendment'," 378 00:24:55,361 --> 00:24:56,301 which is what happened. 379 00:24:58,631 --> 00:25:01,931 [Mike] More than 100 questions he would ask Margie Cantrell, 380 00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:03,974 and she had the same answer for each one. 381 00:25:03,970 --> 00:25:07,210 She would say "I'm exercising my Constitutional Right 382 00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:08,706 to not answer the question," 383 00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:10,578 and this went on and on. 384 00:25:11,744 --> 00:25:13,454 [Margie] People have said that John and I, 385 00:25:13,445 --> 00:25:16,845 took our Constitutional Right because we were guilty. 386 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,124 But my attorney told us, 387 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,019 "You're going to plead the fifth." 388 00:25:23,022 --> 00:25:26,292 They said they didn't want to keep muddying it up 389 00:25:26,292 --> 00:25:27,992 with this John and Margret thing, 390 00:25:28,595 --> 00:25:30,495 because he was innocent, 391 00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:32,597 but he had been completely slandered, 392 00:25:32,599 --> 00:25:34,869 smeared, and everything. 393 00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:36,897 They want to keep it that out 394 00:25:36,903 --> 00:25:41,073 and they wanted to just keep it straight on the kids, 395 00:25:41,073 --> 00:25:44,083 what the jury hears, the testimony the jury hears, 396 00:25:44,076 --> 00:25:44,936 and that was that. 397 00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:48,005 [Thad] The nightmare didn't end. 398 00:25:48,014 --> 00:25:50,384 The prosecutor, Murphy, kept talking about how 399 00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:52,352 the previous two defendants had been convicted 400 00:25:52,351 --> 00:25:53,651 and gotten life sentences. 401 00:25:53,653 --> 00:25:55,893 It's unconstitutional. I objected. 402 00:25:55,888 --> 00:25:58,188 Judge Skeen let him do that. 403 00:25:58,190 --> 00:26:01,930 This was a [bleep] show agenda to a one-way destination, 404 00:26:01,928 --> 00:26:03,958 which was, "We're gonna get convictions." 405 00:26:05,097 --> 00:26:07,627 [Tamara] I still remember vividly, Thad Davidson 406 00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,674 was just shot down, over and over. 407 00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:11,439 And that was the first time I think my eyes, 408 00:26:11,437 --> 00:26:14,637 really, really, opened, to what was taking place. 409 00:26:14,641 --> 00:26:16,641 This was the first time that I thought, 410 00:26:16,643 --> 00:26:17,943 "We're failing this person." 411 00:26:19,646 --> 00:26:22,506 Not only we as the media, but... 412 00:26:22,514 --> 00:26:25,654 these people that we trust, and these investigators, 413 00:26:25,652 --> 00:26:28,662 also didn't do due diligence, 414 00:26:28,655 --> 00:26:30,155 and investigate this case right. 415 00:26:32,992 --> 00:26:35,762 When the verdict came back for the Patrick Kelly case, 416 00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:37,802 it took probably about two hours, 417 00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:39,667 and it was guilty for him. 418 00:26:39,666 --> 00:26:42,466 And he was gonna be sent away like the other two, 419 00:26:42,468 --> 00:26:43,398 for the rest of his life. 420 00:26:46,673 --> 00:26:48,373 I felt grieved in that moment. 421 00:26:50,142 --> 00:26:53,052 It was just gross in a lot of ways, like it was 422 00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:54,845 very sad what happened to him. 423 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,380 I feel that what happened here, to my client 424 00:27:30,382 --> 00:27:35,222 was a travesty of injustice, was a rape of justice. 425 00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,821 And that the people responsible for it, 426 00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:39,434 and let me be blunt, 427 00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,925 Margie Cantrell, John Cantrell, 428 00:27:42,729 --> 00:27:45,299 Ranger Kemp, Joe Murphy, 429 00:27:46,032 --> 00:27:48,402 Matt Bingham, Judge Skeen, 430 00:27:49,468 --> 00:27:52,568 all of these people should be held responsible. 431 00:27:52,571 --> 00:27:54,411 That the harm they inflicted, 432 00:27:54,406 --> 00:27:55,976 should be the harm they suffer. 433 00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:00,410 I don't hide evidence. I've been here 16 years 434 00:28:01,247 --> 00:28:02,747 and I try stuff fairly. 435 00:28:02,749 --> 00:28:04,479 You know the defense just doesn't like the fact that 436 00:28:04,483 --> 00:28:06,253 their client got convicted and got a life sentence. 437 00:28:06,252 --> 00:28:08,092 I mean, let's call it what it is. 438 00:28:08,087 --> 00:28:10,587 Thad Davidson was complaining about the DA. 439 00:28:10,589 --> 00:28:13,459 The DA was complaining about Thad. 440 00:28:13,459 --> 00:28:15,859 But the one thing that Thad Davidson said that made me... 441 00:28:16,763 --> 00:28:18,163 really think was, 442 00:28:19,031 --> 00:28:20,631 there's no evidence here, 443 00:28:20,632 --> 00:28:22,772 and there were no grown-up witnesses. 444 00:28:22,769 --> 00:28:27,509 And so I thought, wow, this could really be a story. 445 00:28:27,506 --> 00:28:30,436 If these guys did it, it's one kind of story. 446 00:28:30,442 --> 00:28:32,012 And if these guys didn't do it, 447 00:28:32,011 --> 00:28:34,311 it's another kind of story. 448 00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:37,053 So I decided to interview some of the Cantrells' other foster kids. 449 00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:41,215 One of her sons called her the "puppet master." 450 00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:44,460 Kids in California said that she was manipulative. 451 00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:46,486 So I called her several times, 452 00:28:46,492 --> 00:28:48,492 'cause I really did want to talk with her. 453 00:28:48,494 --> 00:28:51,204 And it was toward the end of the reporting process 454 00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,227 where I did get her on the phone. 455 00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:54,232 [ringback tone] 456 00:29:34,841 --> 00:29:38,951 I put up my back to not be taken in by this woman, 457 00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:42,505 and within seconds I felt like I was being pulled along a conveyor belt 458 00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:44,154 by an impossible force. 459 00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:48,445 And if she's that way with grownups, 460 00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:50,164 imagine her with kids. 461 00:29:53,325 --> 00:29:57,225 [Margie] Michael Hall said that I was a puppet master mother. 462 00:29:58,464 --> 00:30:01,604 And it really shocked me and it hurt so deep, 463 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,800 deeper than you could ever imagine. 464 00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:08,343 Mind you, I was a mother of 15 teenagers at one time, 465 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:11,280 I was pretty regimental, yes. 466 00:30:11,277 --> 00:30:14,047 Everybody had a chore and I expected it done. 467 00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,023 Puppet master, no. 468 00:30:21,553 --> 00:30:23,723 [Mike] There are so many lies in this story. 469 00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:26,792 Margie knows how to 470 00:30:26,792 --> 00:30:29,662 push people's buttons and manipulate them. 471 00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:32,871 You go to each one of my children 472 00:30:32,865 --> 00:30:36,495 and you try to demonize me through my own children? 473 00:30:40,506 --> 00:30:41,366 [sniffles] 474 00:30:46,412 --> 00:30:49,582 [Tamara] After the third trial, everything completely turned, 475 00:30:49,581 --> 00:30:52,251 it was like the mic drop time, like, "What is going on?" 476 00:30:54,553 --> 00:30:57,163 [female reporter] With the recent developments, all eyes will be 477 00:30:57,156 --> 00:30:59,726 on the fourth trial in the Mineola sex-ring case. 478 00:30:59,725 --> 00:31:02,725 Dennis Pittman, a friend of convicted defendants, 479 00:31:02,728 --> 00:31:06,428 Shauntel Mayo and Jamie Pittman, will begin trial Monday. 480 00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:12,472 [Mike] The fourth trial was Dennis Pittman. 481 00:31:12,471 --> 00:31:16,481 He was local guy, been around for a long time. 482 00:31:16,475 --> 00:31:18,305 Pittman has a really good lawyer, Jason Cassel, 483 00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:20,080 young guy, based out of Longview. 484 00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:21,979 Jason's a smart guy, he knows something's up, 485 00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:24,051 he, he believes that Pittman is innocent. 486 00:31:25,551 --> 00:31:29,791 [Jason] Dennis was real soft spoken and when I first met with him 487 00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:33,458 he was basically like, you know, "I didn't, I didn't do this, 488 00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:37,129 and I don't know why this is being said about me." 489 00:32:00,186 --> 00:32:02,786 [Mike] I got there early on the first day of trial, 490 00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:05,188 and I found a seat in the courtroom. 491 00:32:05,191 --> 00:32:07,591 And all of a sudden I'm aware of this figure 492 00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:10,063 kind of moving really slowly 493 00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:13,603 to the right and in front of me, 494 00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,239 and I finally look up and it's Dennis Pittman. 495 00:32:16,235 --> 00:32:20,305 He looks like somebody in a hospital who is heavily sedated. 496 00:32:42,161 --> 00:32:46,931 I just knew that this guy, you know, he was doomed. 497 00:32:49,335 --> 00:32:51,895 Bingham did not pull back one bit. 498 00:32:51,903 --> 00:32:56,043 He was going full boar to get a conviction of Dennis Pittman. 499 00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:59,412 And of course, the three previous juries 500 00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:02,211 had found guilty verdicts right away. 501 00:33:02,214 --> 00:33:05,724 I think most people there thought, "It's probably gonna happen again." 502 00:33:05,717 --> 00:33:08,687 But during the trial, a bombshell dropped. 503 00:33:13,225 --> 00:33:15,355 [Gabby] During the first trial, I was seven. 504 00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:17,331 Then there was the questioning, 505 00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:22,069 going over my testimony, which sometimes lasted hours as well. 506 00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:25,270 [Ranger Kemp] Alrighty. 507 00:33:45,757 --> 00:33:47,757 [Gabby] During the Dennis Pittman trials, 508 00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:49,599 I was going into middle school 509 00:33:49,595 --> 00:33:52,955 and I wanted to move on past this. 510 00:34:10,249 --> 00:34:12,549 Matt Bingham, that was questioning me, 511 00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:15,491 I, you know, had heard him stating 512 00:34:15,487 --> 00:34:18,687 earlier in the day to Joe Murphy that, 513 00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:21,390 "I'm gonna have to treat her like a hostile witness." 514 00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:26,703 Well, I had had enough of that so I 515 00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,340 made his day worse 516 00:34:31,337 --> 00:34:35,267 by finally saying, you know, what he didn't want to hear. 517 00:34:54,226 --> 00:34:56,026 When they were questioning me, 518 00:34:56,027 --> 00:35:00,427 that I had kind of recanted in a way, it was-- 519 00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:04,972 it blurted out of my mouth. I, It just came out. 520 00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:07,910 [Mike] In all the times I've been in courts covering stories, 521 00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:10,906 I've never seen somebody with that kind of courage. 522 00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:14,779 She is absolutely fearless and I, I remember thinking, 523 00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:17,620 "Where is this gonna go?" 524 00:35:17,616 --> 00:35:21,016 [Jason] When Gabby testified, that was really one of the times where I thought, 525 00:35:21,019 --> 00:35:24,719 you know, "Oh, you know, we got a [bleep] chance." 526 00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:39,766 I needed an explanation for as to why I was changing my story 527 00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:46,111 and, you know, I went to church every Sunday for three hours. 528 00:35:46,212 --> 00:35:48,852 God made me tell the truth. God told me to do it. 529 00:35:57,389 --> 00:36:00,029 I felt better once I had said it. 530 00:36:00,025 --> 00:36:03,085 There was always, like, this knot in the pit of my stomach. 531 00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:04,864 And the second that I said, 532 00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:09,303 "That didn't happen. God told me to tell the truth," 533 00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:11,141 that knot loosened. 534 00:36:12,938 --> 00:36:18,078 I had never in my life, you know, met Dennis Pittman. 535 00:36:18,076 --> 00:36:21,646 I had never been introduced to him by my parents. 536 00:36:21,647 --> 00:36:26,987 The truth of the matter is, is that it didn't happen, it never happened. 537 00:36:26,985 --> 00:36:28,445 They brainwashed us. 538 00:36:38,264 --> 00:36:42,704 [Mike] So, when Gabby finally said, "This didn't happen," 539 00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:44,471 I mean, if this were a Hollywood movie, 540 00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:46,570 the whole case would've fallen apart right then. 541 00:36:46,572 --> 00:36:48,812 Margie Cantrell would've fessed up 542 00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:50,277 to making the whole thing up. 543 00:36:50,276 --> 00:36:52,576 The, the judge would've declared a mistrial, 544 00:36:52,578 --> 00:36:55,308 and everything would've been hunky-dory. 545 00:36:55,314 --> 00:36:57,624 But this is Smith County. [chuckles] 546 00:36:57,616 --> 00:36:59,986 And in Smith County you keep going. 547 00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:04,391 [Jason] At the end of the day, 548 00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:06,490 with the way that they tried the case 549 00:37:06,492 --> 00:37:07,862 and the way that they argued it, 550 00:37:07,859 --> 00:37:10,029 going after hearts rather than minds, 551 00:37:10,028 --> 00:37:13,628 I just felt like they would sit there and say, 552 00:37:13,632 --> 00:37:15,332 "We're gonna find this guy guilty." 553 00:37:17,603 --> 00:37:18,673 [gavel bangs] 554 00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:22,412 [Jason] And that's what they did. 555 00:37:30,882 --> 00:37:35,652 In the back of your mind, when you believe that this guy is not guilty, 556 00:37:35,654 --> 00:37:38,894 it stings, you know, that's the thing that really hurts is knowing... 557 00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:40,390 [door buzzer rings] 558 00:37:41,327 --> 00:37:42,857 ...an innocent man went to prison. 559 00:38:06,352 --> 00:38:08,852 [Gabby] After Dennis Pittman's trial, 560 00:38:08,854 --> 00:38:11,794 it got to the point where I was not mentally okay 561 00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:15,360 because my parents' trials were coming up really quickly. 562 00:38:16,828 --> 00:38:18,958 I knew that they were next. 563 00:38:18,964 --> 00:38:21,804 I was going through a lot of mental struggles 564 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,800 at the time that this picture was taken. I was suicidal. 565 00:38:25,804 --> 00:38:27,674 I wrote a suicide letter, 566 00:38:27,673 --> 00:38:30,513 stating that I couldn't do this anymore. 567 00:38:30,509 --> 00:38:32,539 It was after that that, you know, 568 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,520 they finally, you know, started making the deals, 569 00:38:37,516 --> 00:38:40,746 and making it to where I didn't have to testify against my parents. 570 00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:46,164 And they make it sound like it's for my health and well-being, 571 00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:48,387 but I really think that it was because 572 00:38:48,394 --> 00:38:51,204 they knew if I got back up on that stand, 573 00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:54,898 it was not gonna be what they wanted. 574 00:39:07,646 --> 00:39:10,916 At that point, Jimmy had been behind bars for four years 575 00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:14,246 and he said, "I'm done. I'll, I'll take a deal. 576 00:39:14,252 --> 00:39:16,562 I will admit guilt to something I didn't do." 577 00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:20,155 Shelia said the same. In exchange for the plea 578 00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:23,728 and agreeing to not have contact with Gabby till she was 18, 579 00:39:23,729 --> 00:39:26,599 Jimmy and Shelia were released in August 2010. 580 00:39:36,608 --> 00:39:38,608 This is the new Smith County Jail. 581 00:39:39,845 --> 00:39:42,175 This is the old one. That's the one I was in 582 00:39:43,281 --> 00:39:46,721 for three years, 11 months and 23 days. 583 00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,520 That recreation was the only sunlight we ever got, 584 00:39:51,523 --> 00:39:55,033 and we probably got it, maybe, once a week, if we were lucky. 585 00:39:56,628 --> 00:39:58,558 I was on the third floor. 586 00:40:01,032 --> 00:40:03,172 Those were the infirmary windows. 587 00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:06,370 [interviewer speaking] 588 00:40:06,371 --> 00:40:08,341 Oh, yeah, several times. 589 00:40:08,339 --> 00:40:09,739 Getting stitched up. 590 00:40:11,142 --> 00:40:14,352 My memory here is straight up hell on earth. 591 00:40:15,814 --> 00:40:18,224 I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy, 592 00:40:19,551 --> 00:40:21,891 especially for someone being in jail 593 00:40:21,887 --> 00:40:23,757 when they didn't commit a crime. 594 00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:27,393 When I took the plea bargain, 595 00:40:27,392 --> 00:40:33,002 my attorney told me that I had to sign my rights over to Gabby. 596 00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:35,528 That was the saddest day of my life. 597 00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:42,507 I always told my daughter that I would never give up on her, 598 00:40:44,409 --> 00:40:46,009 and at this time I did. 599 00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,417 She was my baby girl. 600 00:40:51,416 --> 00:40:56,216 Everything in this world did not matter to me unless it involved Gabby. 601 00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:03,356 [Shelia] Gabby was the love of my life, 602 00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:07,269 and she's still the love of my life. 603 00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,735 We were very proud parents. 604 00:41:12,738 --> 00:41:16,208 Jimmy said he only ever wanted one and that's what he got, one. 605 00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:27,154 [Jimmy] I never thought I'd be living back here in Mineola, but here I am. 606 00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:32,155 Considering all the nightmares. 607 00:41:34,192 --> 00:41:37,602 The media had painted such a horrible picture of us, 608 00:41:37,596 --> 00:41:38,896 that we were monsters. 609 00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:44,997 We were the worst scum on earth. 610 00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:51,009 Little building right here is the newspaper place. 611 00:41:55,714 --> 00:41:57,654 And then that building up there 612 00:41:57,649 --> 00:41:59,589 is where the swingers club was. 613 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,600 [exhales sharply] 614 00:42:28,279 --> 00:42:30,979 Just being here makes me sick to my stomach. 615 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,620 This is a piece of [bleep] place, 616 00:42:36,622 --> 00:42:38,962 it needs to be tore down, as far as I'm concerned. 617 00:42:41,526 --> 00:42:43,486 And it's a reminder of evil. 618 00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:45,629 Straight up evil. 619 00:42:48,533 --> 00:42:51,203 It's not none of the kids' fault that we went through this. 620 00:42:53,438 --> 00:42:55,408 It's the Cantrell family. 621 00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:57,406 Margie Cantrell and John Cantrell. 622 00:42:57,408 --> 00:43:01,508 What do you think about these allegations that are being made against you? 623 00:43:01,512 --> 00:43:04,422 - We don't even know most of them yet. [chuckles] - Mmm-hmm. 624 00:43:06,184 --> 00:43:08,054 - [female lawyer] Margaret! - Yes, ma'am. 625 00:43:08,053 --> 00:43:09,823 - [female lawyer] Go. - [Margie] Yes, ma'am. 626 00:43:09,821 --> 00:43:11,191 - Go! - No. 627 00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:13,659 Hurry up. Go. 628 00:43:14,693 --> 00:43:16,933 [Mike] Everything they'd said was a lie, 629 00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:19,668 sex kindergarten, the swingers club. 630 00:43:20,666 --> 00:43:22,496 And that ruined a bunch of people's lives 631 00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:24,400 and sent a bunch of people to prison 632 00:43:24,402 --> 00:43:27,372 and ruin a bunch of children's childhoods. 633 00:43:28,674 --> 00:43:30,384 - [car engine starts] - [Mike] And then we found out 634 00:43:30,375 --> 00:43:34,345 why they would've done all this in the first place. 635 00:43:34,345 --> 00:43:36,075 [Jimmy] They don't care who they hurt. 636 00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:38,975 What family they devastate. 637 00:43:40,385 --> 00:43:41,785 They're in it for the money. 50839

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