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[reporter]
The trial of the third person
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with ties to the Mineola
Swingers Club
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came to a stunning halt
in Smith County, Monday,
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when foster parent
John Cantrell,
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a man awarded custody
of three young siblings,
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who allegedly performed
at the swingers club,
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was arrested in Wood County.
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Living in the Cantrell's house
was like a torture chamber.
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I never felt safe.
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And so when I'm starting
to see this stuff come on TV
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about the swingers club,
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and Margie Cantrell bringing
these kids involved with it,
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how could I do nothing
and just sit there
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when I knew exactly what
those kids were going through?
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[Margie] There's no words.
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There's really no words
to describe it.
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It wasn't true,
and I knew that.
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[tearfully] He never
ever did anything.
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[Jenna] My early childhood
in California,
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my biological mom
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was doing drugs
and drinking a lot
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and when CPS found us
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we were malnutritioned
and in soiled diapers.
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Then we went
through foster care
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and this lady said,
"Well, I'll take all of them."
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And that was Margie Cantrell.
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I thought, "Yes,
this sweet lady
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and this guy that
looks like Santa Claus
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wants to be our parents."
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But right after I got adopted,
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the abuse with both
of them started.
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When I was 7, that's when
John Cantrell started being
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very physically sexual
with me.
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Touching, licking, kissing,
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trying to teach us how
to French kiss.
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John Cantrell would tell me,
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"Well if you tell anybody,
you're just going to go back
to foster care."
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Everything with Margie
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went very hatefully abusive,
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putting her hands
around my neck
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and just kind
of strangling me
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and telling me how much
she hates me and she
wishes I would die.
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I was depressed.
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I started drinking when
I was about 9, 10 years old.
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Basically I was trying
to self-medicate.
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[Margie] When we
adopted Jenna, back in 1985,
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she had a lot
of problems. A lot.
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A low, low mentality.
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There was a time when
she decided
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to microwave our cat.
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And somebody ran in
and got the cat out.
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The cat did live,
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but it was horrifying.
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[Jenna] In 2004,
we moved to Texas.
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I was 24 at this time.
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There's a couple of reasons
I had stayed with them
for that long.
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My confidence
was so low
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that I really felt like
I couldn't live on my own.
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I had no ID,
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I didn't have
my birth certificate,
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I didn't have my
social security card,
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I had nothing.
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Margie, she would
tell me stuff, like,
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"Well, nobody's going
to want you anyways."
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She would make you feel
like you really
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couldn't do anything
without her.
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[Margie] Shortly after
we moved to Texas,
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Jenna met a man
down the block, David,
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and they got together.
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And they went on
and got married.
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[Jenna] Margie did not think
anything would come out
of this relationship.
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But It's real.
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It's a real love that...
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Never had that, you know,
growing up.
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So I still get all
the butterflies
and everything.
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[David] Me and the Cantrells
didn't get along.
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I could definitely tell
something was shady
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between Jenna and John.
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Just the way they, you know,
went about carrying themselves
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kind of seemed
kind of like hidden.
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[reporter] The children were
allegedly forced to dance
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and perform sexual acts
with each other.
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[David] And then when I heard
their story on the news
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about what had happened
with these kids,
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my wife told me what had
happened to her,
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you know, in detail.
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[Jenna] I was hoping that
when I found my husband,
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I would never tell him
the abuse I went through
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because John and Margie
both told me
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that if I ever said anything,
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my spouse or my boyfriend
would leave me.
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When I told him
I started crying,
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and he goes, "No no,
come here, come here,
come here."
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And he rocked me
in the chair.
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And he just held me.
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[David] I love my wife
very much.
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I'm an emotional guy.
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So, when I heard those kind
of things, it bothered me.
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It bothered me a lot.
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I suggested that she tell
the truth to the authorities.
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So she did.
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I can say that as far as
like accusations go
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about my mom and dad,
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I knew it wasn't true.
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It was straight up lies.
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[Jacob] I hold a lot
of anger towards Jenna.
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When you are willing
to lie about somebody
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and potentially
put them in prison,
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I have no room
in my life for you.
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[Margie] When John
was arrested, that hurt,
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but I wasn't going
to tell Jenna,
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"You can't be part of this
family. You can't come home."
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There's something
that is in me that just
doesn't give up on them.
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And then one night,
the kids and I went to Walmart
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and Jenna and David
were there.
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And I said, "Jenna,
come here."
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And he's like, "No."
And she's like, "I can't."
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And I'm like,
"Jenna, come here."
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And she's like, "I can't."
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And then Shelby
said to me,
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"That's the tattooed man
that was at the club.
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He's the one that
was molesting me
at that club."
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[Jenna] Next morning
I get these subpoenas
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and they're saying, well,
these kids are saying
David's name.
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And they're saying that
he's involved with all this.
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[David] I go in
with this police officer.
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He thought I was affiliated
with this swinger's club.
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And they asked me
to take my clothes
down to my underwear
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and stand with my arms out.
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The children had said that
the DJ at the club
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had a tattoo of a dragon
on his back.
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I don't have any tattoos
on my back
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[Margie] Now whether he
was ever at the swinger's club
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to just be a swinger
or to look at the place
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or do anything, that's not
for me to decide.
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No. No. That's not David.
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David's never been like that.
It's completely lies.
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Margie's getting back at me
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because I came out
about her and John.
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Eventually, the police
informed me that
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I was no longer needed
in the trial.
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I knew the capabilities
of this woman.
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I didn't think
it would go that far.
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She'd have been happy
if I'd have went to prison.
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I didn't know nothing
about the swinger's club.
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[Margie] When John
went to court
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I sold everything we owned
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so I could hire an attorney
for my husband.
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When we went
into the courtroom
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the judge heard all
of their evidence that
they said they had
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and he said, "No,
I'm not taking this at all."
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And the judge said,
"Mr. Cantrell, go home."
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There was no evidence
that was even credible,
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so they dropped it.
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And that was the end of it.
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They threw it out
because it was false,
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it wasn't what happened.
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Anybody can accuse
anybody of anything,
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it doesn't mean
that it's true.
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And unless you have
actual proof,
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maybe just don't try
to ruin somebody's life
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just because you
don't like them.
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If you don't like them,
just keep it moving. Move on.
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Her biological children
never got abused,
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because they were
the real kids.
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The ones that would get
abused a lot of the times
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were her foster kids.
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And I believe in her mind
she was thinking,
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"Nobody wants them."
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She's the only way.
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She's the only hope
that you have in life.
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You do what she says
and you'll be okay.
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If you don't, there's gonna
be hell to pay.
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[Margie]
It was a made-up story.
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And I think that
that's disgusting.
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[Michael] In the community,
some people thought
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it was just unfair mudslinging
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against Margie's husband,
kicking against Margie.
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But it just seemed
such a weird coincidence,
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that her husband was being
accused of the same thing
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that her foster kids were
accusing other people
of doing.
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[Mike] Patrick Kelly's
nickname was Booger Red.
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And it was Booger Red,
who was the one who
had the trailer
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where apparently the sex
kindergarten had taken place.
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[Mike] And then they'd
come up to Mineola
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and they'd dance on stage
for money.
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[Mike] Patrick Kelly's trial
was actually going
to be a little bit different.
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For one thing, Patrick Kelly's
mother cashed in her 401(k)
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to get him an actual lawyer.
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Patrick Kelly had
Thad Davidson,
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who was a bulldog
of a defense lawyer,
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former Marine, very dramatic,
and very smart guy.
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[Thad] When I first took on
the case, I went to the jail
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and met with Patrick Kelly.
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...and organized crime.
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[Patrick] I didn't even know
there was a swingers club
in Mineola.
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[Thad] I thought
he was believable.
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He had no prior history of any
significance whatsoever.
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We looked for fingerprints...
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DNA...
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Blood...
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Other witnesses...
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Forensic investigation...
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None of which existed.
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[Melinda] When Thad came
to me and asked for the help,
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I really thought that
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he was blowing this
out of proportion.
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But then I start looking
through the evidence.
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That's when I really began
to realize that
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Thad wasn't overly exaggerating.
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I believe he was not guilty
of what these kids
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and the Cantrells were saying
that he did.
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Patrick Kelly, was
a simple man,
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and he lived a simple life.
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The big thing for him would be
after his hard week of work,
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was to go buy a 30 pack
of Natural Light Beer
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and a family size
of chicken legs,
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and have the different friends
and stuff come over,
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and they would barbecue.
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[fire crackling]
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[Patrick] My world's been
turned upside down with
all this going on.
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[Thad] Patrick Kelly,
to be frank,
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is a redneck, uneducated,
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impoverished, living in
a trailer out in the woods.
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And in Smith County,
that makes you a target.
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Soon after I took on the case,
a senior officer of Mineola PD
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shows up at my office
with boxes of information.
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She goes, "There's
all this stuff that,
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we're pretty sure you don't
have and have never heard of.
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Did you know about this?
Did you know about this?"
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She gives us all this stuff
that we've never seen before.
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And I'm sitting there
thinking, "Holy [bleep] ."
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It was long hidden,
exculpatory evidence.
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Exculpatory reports,
exculpatory interviews,
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exculpatory information
from June of 2005,
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when the Mineola PD and
the Wood County DA's office
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looked at the case and said,
"We don't have anything here".
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Anything that tends to show
a defendant is not guilty,
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must be turned over
to the defense.
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And the state is not allowed
to collect the evidence,
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sit on it, hide on it,
lie about it, pretend they
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don't know about it,
which they did.
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[Melinda] We had learned
before, that swingers club
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had already closed down.
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A few of the officers,
were running license plates
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to see who were swingers,
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to see if any of them
were local, just gossiping.
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And so, if we could
get those license plates,
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then we could get in touch
with some of those swingers
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to come forward and
say that if, or if not,
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the defendants were
at the swingers club.
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So we subpoenaed the records.
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Maybe three weeks goes by,
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and then they finally
responded and said,
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as strangely as this is,
they couldn't find anything.
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Eh, there's no other
way to explain that
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other than, they were erased.
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That was suspicious.
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I believe the Texas Rangers
made that decision
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at that time to erase them.
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Because, if they came forward
with all the license plates,
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but none of the
defendant's cars,
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not one car came back to them,
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well that might prove
our client is innocent,
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and they wouldn't
want to give us that.
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And then we learned,
another reason they
would've done this.
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We discovered that officers
in Mineola had spoken with
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the swingers club owners,
Sherry and Russ Adams.
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If those officers
were in there,
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that's not against the law,
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but they would've
had to have said,
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there were no
children in there.
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And I believe by that point,
Ranger Kemp was so involved,
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he didn't want this
case to stop.
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And then we dig deeper and
we find out Ranger Kemp
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interviewed Sherry Adams
in the DA's office,
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there in the courthouse.
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[Sherry] We were cramped
in this little corner office
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and he put them pictures
out on his desk,
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and he slammed them.
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"I know who...
you know who this is."
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-"I don't."
-"Well, then you know
who this one is."
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"No, I don't."
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"Well, you know
what they've done?"
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"No, I don't. I don't know
who they are."
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He said, "You're a liar.
And I'm gonna put you in jail
with the rest of them.
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You will rot in prison."
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[Thad] I'm sitting there
thinking, oh my God,
this is bad.
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This won't even go to trial.
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There is no case here.
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This is smoke
and mirrors [bleep].
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[Melinda] We wanted
the recording of that
meeting with Sherry Adams.
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But there was no recording.
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It wasn't in a report.
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There was nothing of that.
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And to destroy
any evidence is illegal.
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Kemp testified he wasn't sure
if it had been recorded.
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But then Thad Davidson
found out that
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Kemp had actually
been interviewed,
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by the Attorney
General's office,
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about the whereabouts
of the recording.
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[Melinda] In 26 years,
a Texas Ranger's never
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conducted an investigation
on sexual assault of a child
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or indecency with a child
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or sexual performance
by a child.
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Kemp had no idea
what he was doing.
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Why are you allowing Margie
to sit in on these interviews
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and insist and push
and force these kids
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to say what they said.
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[Thad] Kemp did not bother
to check out Cantrell.
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Kemp did not bother to go,
let's talk about you,
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let's talk about your background.
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That kind of critical thinking
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that should have
been taking place
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by Kemp, or any law
enforcement agent,
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of Cantrell did not happen.
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[Tamara] Thad Davidson
was relentless,
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he called me
over and over again.
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He kept saying like,
"I'm telling you,
this is a set-up."
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And so finally, I sat down
with him and heard him out.
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And I, I saw the passion,
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it wasn't just a defense
attorney that wanted to
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convince me that,
his defendant wasn't guilty.
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No, he was trying
to tell me, like,
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you don't understand,
there's layers to this.
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And that was the
first time I think my eyes
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really, really opened,
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to what was taking
place and everything.
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So, by the time we entered
the third trial with,
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Patrick Kelly, Booger Red,
I was ready, finally,
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to kind of get a different
side and understand
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what the truth is
behind all of this.
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[Thad] I believed
we had a good case,
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but the tide was
completely against us
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when the trial started.
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Any time anybody gets
arrested on a first-degree,
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big sex offense crime,
or frankly any
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kind of big crime,
it's all over the news.
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[Tamara] This case is
constantly in the headlines.
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The media and
the newspaper in town,
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knew that people were hungry
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00:23:03,550 --> 00:23:05,020
and that they wanted
more, more, more.
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Give us more about this
Mineola sex ring club.
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[Thad] What that means
is that the jury pool,
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of course, knew
about these cases.
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If you know about it, it's
going to affect you in trial.
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[Tamara] Local news
was a really big deal.
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It was whatever was
printed or reported,
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was gospel in many ways.
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And it did feel like it was
very, very dominant,
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and heavy-sided for the DA.
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[reading] Defense attorney
Thad Davidson
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says during Friday's pretrial,
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he will also ask for
a change of venue.
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The reason, potential jurors
in Smith County
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are only seeing one side
of the child sex ring story.
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[Thad] When the trial started,
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we called Margie Cantrell
to the witness stand.
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00:24:00,773 --> 00:24:03,683
We knew that John Cantrell
had been indicted out
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in California on
child sex charges.
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The issue is, well, if he's
doing it, is she doing it too?
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Because people are
saying that she is.
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We were interviewing former
foster kids, now adults.
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[Jenna] They were
asking me what happened,
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and I told them the abuse
I went through and I said,
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"I know what she's doing
because she's done this
kind of stuff before."
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She was saying,
"Margie Cantrell beat us.
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00:24:29,736 --> 00:24:32,606
Margie Cantrell
told us what to say,
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Margie Cantrell
would punish us
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if we didn't say what
she wanted us to say
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or do what she
wanted us to do."
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These were adults saying that.
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We were ready to destroy her.
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The problem is, Margie, with
the assistance of her attorney
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told her to shut the hell up,
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00:24:51,390 --> 00:24:53,590
"You are not going to say a
damn word on the witness stand
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other than 'I take the fifth
amendment',"
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00:24:55,361 --> 00:24:56,301
which is what happened.
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[Mike] More than 100 questions
he would ask Margie Cantrell,
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00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:03,974
and she had the same
answer for each one.
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She would say "I'm exercising
my Constitutional Right
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00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:08,706
to not answer the question,"
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00:25:08,708 --> 00:25:10,578
and this went on and on.
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[Margie] People have
said that John and I,
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took our Constitutional Right
because we were guilty.
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00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,124
But my attorney told us,
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00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,019
"You're going to
plead the fifth."
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They said they didn't want
to keep muddying it up
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with this John
and Margret thing,
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00:25:28,595 --> 00:25:30,495
because he was innocent,
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00:25:30,597 --> 00:25:32,597
but he had been
completely slandered,
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smeared, and everything.
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00:25:34,867 --> 00:25:36,897
They want to keep it that out
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00:25:36,903 --> 00:25:41,073
and they wanted to just
keep it straight on the kids,
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what the jury hears,
the testimony the jury hears,
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00:25:44,076 --> 00:25:44,936
and that was that.
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00:25:46,345 --> 00:25:48,005
[Thad] The nightmare
didn't end.
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00:25:48,014 --> 00:25:50,384
The prosecutor, Murphy, kept
talking about how
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00:25:50,382 --> 00:25:52,352
the previous two defendants
had been convicted
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00:25:52,351 --> 00:25:53,651
and gotten life sentences.
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00:25:53,653 --> 00:25:55,893
It's unconstitutional.
I objected.
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00:25:55,888 --> 00:25:58,188
Judge Skeen let him do that.
403
00:25:58,190 --> 00:26:01,930
This was a [bleep] show agenda
to a one-way destination,
404
00:26:01,928 --> 00:26:03,958
which was, "We're
gonna get convictions."
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00:26:05,097 --> 00:26:07,627
[Tamara] I still remember
vividly, Thad Davidson
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00:26:07,634 --> 00:26:09,674
was just shot down,
over and over.
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00:26:09,669 --> 00:26:11,439
And that was the first time
I think my eyes,
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00:26:11,437 --> 00:26:14,637
really, really, opened,
to what was taking place.
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00:26:14,641 --> 00:26:16,641
This was the first time
that I thought,
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00:26:16,643 --> 00:26:17,943
"We're failing this person."
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00:26:19,646 --> 00:26:22,506
Not only we as
the media, but...
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00:26:22,514 --> 00:26:25,654
these people that we trust,
and these investigators,
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00:26:25,652 --> 00:26:28,662
also didn't do due diligence,
414
00:26:28,655 --> 00:26:30,155
and investigate
this case right.
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00:26:32,992 --> 00:26:35,762
When the verdict came back
for the Patrick Kelly case,
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00:26:35,762 --> 00:26:37,802
it took probably
about two hours,
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00:26:37,797 --> 00:26:39,667
and it was guilty for him.
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00:26:39,666 --> 00:26:42,466
And he was gonna be
sent away like the other two,
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00:26:42,468 --> 00:26:43,398
for the rest of his life.
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00:26:46,673 --> 00:26:48,373
I felt grieved in that moment.
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00:26:50,142 --> 00:26:53,052
It was just gross in a
lot of ways, like it was
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00:26:53,045 --> 00:26:54,845
very sad what happened to him.
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00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,380
I feel that what happened
here, to my client
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00:27:30,382 --> 00:27:35,222
was a travesty of injustice,
was a rape of justice.
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00:27:35,221 --> 00:27:37,821
And that the people
responsible for it,
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00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:39,434
and let me be blunt,
427
00:27:39,425 --> 00:27:41,925
Margie Cantrell,
John Cantrell,
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00:27:42,729 --> 00:27:45,299
Ranger Kemp, Joe Murphy,
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00:27:46,032 --> 00:27:48,402
Matt Bingham, Judge Skeen,
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00:27:49,468 --> 00:27:52,568
all of these people
should be held responsible.
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00:27:52,571 --> 00:27:54,411
That the harm they inflicted,
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00:27:54,406 --> 00:27:55,976
should be the harm
they suffer.
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00:27:57,810 --> 00:28:00,410
I don't hide evidence.
I've been here 16 years
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00:28:01,247 --> 00:28:02,747
and I try stuff fairly.
435
00:28:02,749 --> 00:28:04,479
You know the defense just
doesn't like the fact that
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00:28:04,483 --> 00:28:06,253
their client got convicted
and got a life sentence.
437
00:28:06,252 --> 00:28:08,092
I mean, let's
call it what it is.
438
00:28:08,087 --> 00:28:10,587
Thad Davidson was
complaining about the DA.
439
00:28:10,589 --> 00:28:13,459
The DA was complaining
about Thad.
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00:28:13,459 --> 00:28:15,859
But the one thing that Thad
Davidson said that made me...
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00:28:16,763 --> 00:28:18,163
really think was,
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00:28:19,031 --> 00:28:20,631
there's no evidence here,
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00:28:20,632 --> 00:28:22,772
and there were no
grown-up witnesses.
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00:28:22,769 --> 00:28:27,509
And so I thought, wow, this
could really be a story.
445
00:28:27,506 --> 00:28:30,436
If these guys did it,
it's one kind of story.
446
00:28:30,442 --> 00:28:32,012
And if these guys
didn't do it,
447
00:28:32,011 --> 00:28:34,311
it's another kind of story.
448
00:28:34,313 --> 00:28:37,053
So I decided to interview
some of the Cantrells'
other foster kids.
449
00:28:38,785 --> 00:28:41,215
One of her sons called her
the "puppet master."
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00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:44,460
Kids in California said
that she was manipulative.
451
00:28:44,456 --> 00:28:46,486
So I called her several times,
452
00:28:46,492 --> 00:28:48,492
'cause I really did
want to talk with her.
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00:28:48,494 --> 00:28:51,204
And it was toward the end
of the reporting process
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00:28:51,197 --> 00:28:53,227
where I did get
her on the phone.
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00:28:53,232 --> 00:28:54,232
[ringback tone]
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00:29:34,841 --> 00:29:38,951
I put up my back to
not be taken in by this woman,
457
00:29:38,945 --> 00:29:42,505
and within seconds
I felt like I was being
pulled along a conveyor belt
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00:29:42,514 --> 00:29:44,154
by an impossible force.
459
00:29:46,285 --> 00:29:48,445
And if she's that way
with grownups,
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00:29:48,454 --> 00:29:50,164
imagine her with kids.
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00:29:53,325 --> 00:29:57,225
[Margie] Michael Hall said
that I was a puppet master mother.
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00:29:58,464 --> 00:30:01,604
And it really shocked me
and it hurt so deep,
463
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,800
deeper than you could
ever imagine.
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00:30:04,803 --> 00:30:08,343
Mind you, I was a mother
of 15 teenagers at one time,
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00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:11,280
I was pretty regimental, yes.
466
00:30:11,277 --> 00:30:14,047
Everybody had a chore
and I expected it done.
467
00:30:14,813 --> 00:30:17,023
Puppet master, no.
468
00:30:21,553 --> 00:30:23,723
[Mike] There are so many lies
in this story.
469
00:30:23,722 --> 00:30:26,792
Margie knows how to
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00:30:26,792 --> 00:30:29,662
push people's buttons
and manipulate them.
471
00:30:29,661 --> 00:30:32,871
You go to each one
of my children
472
00:30:32,865 --> 00:30:36,495
and you try to demonize me
through my own children?
473
00:30:40,506 --> 00:30:41,366
[sniffles]
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00:30:46,412 --> 00:30:49,582
[Tamara]
After the third trial,
everything completely turned,
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00:30:49,581 --> 00:30:52,251
it was like the mic drop time,
like, "What is going on?"
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00:30:54,553 --> 00:30:57,163
[female reporter]
With the recent developments,
all eyes will be
477
00:30:57,156 --> 00:30:59,726
on the fourth trial
in the Mineola sex-ring case.
478
00:30:59,725 --> 00:31:02,725
Dennis Pittman, a friend
of convicted defendants,
479
00:31:02,728 --> 00:31:06,428
Shauntel Mayo
and Jamie Pittman,
will begin trial Monday.
480
00:31:10,702 --> 00:31:12,472
[Mike] The fourth trial
was Dennis Pittman.
481
00:31:12,471 --> 00:31:16,481
He was local guy,
been around for a long time.
482
00:31:16,475 --> 00:31:18,305
Pittman has a really good
lawyer, Jason Cassel,
483
00:31:18,310 --> 00:31:20,080
young guy,
based out of Longview.
484
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:21,979
Jason's a smart guy,
he knows something's up,
485
00:31:21,981 --> 00:31:24,051
he, he believes that
Pittman is innocent.
486
00:31:25,551 --> 00:31:29,791
[Jason] Dennis was
real soft spoken and
when I first met with him
487
00:31:29,788 --> 00:31:33,458
he was basically like,
you know,
"I didn't, I didn't do this,
488
00:31:33,459 --> 00:31:37,129
and I don't know why
this is being said about me."
489
00:32:00,186 --> 00:32:02,786
[Mike] I got there early
on the first day of trial,
490
00:32:02,788 --> 00:32:05,188
and I found a seat
in the courtroom.
491
00:32:05,191 --> 00:32:07,591
And all of a sudden
I'm aware of this figure
492
00:32:07,593 --> 00:32:10,063
kind of moving really slowly
493
00:32:11,763 --> 00:32:13,603
to the right and in front
of me,
494
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:16,239
and I finally look up
and it's Dennis Pittman.
495
00:32:16,235 --> 00:32:20,305
He looks like somebody
in a hospital who is
heavily sedated.
496
00:32:42,161 --> 00:32:46,931
I just knew that this guy,
you know, he was doomed.
497
00:32:49,335 --> 00:32:51,895
Bingham did not
pull back one bit.
498
00:32:51,903 --> 00:32:56,043
He was going full boar
to get a conviction
of Dennis Pittman.
499
00:32:56,042 --> 00:32:59,412
And of course,
the three previous juries
500
00:32:59,411 --> 00:33:02,211
had found guilty verdicts
right away.
501
00:33:02,214 --> 00:33:05,724
I think most people there
thought, "It's probably
gonna happen again."
502
00:33:05,717 --> 00:33:08,687
But during the trial,
a bombshell dropped.
503
00:33:13,225 --> 00:33:15,355
[Gabby]
During the first trial,
I was seven.
504
00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:17,331
Then there was
the questioning,
505
00:33:17,329 --> 00:33:22,069
going over my testimony,
which sometimes lasted
hours as well.
506
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:25,270
[Ranger Kemp] Alrighty.
507
00:33:45,757 --> 00:33:47,757
[Gabby] During
the Dennis Pittman trials,
508
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:49,599
I was going into middle school
509
00:33:49,595 --> 00:33:52,955
and I wanted to move on
past this.
510
00:34:10,249 --> 00:34:12,549
Matt Bingham,
that was questioning me,
511
00:34:12,551 --> 00:34:15,491
I, you know,
had heard him stating
512
00:34:15,487 --> 00:34:18,687
earlier in the day
to Joe Murphy that,
513
00:34:18,690 --> 00:34:21,390
"I'm gonna have to treat
her like a hostile witness."
514
00:34:21,393 --> 00:34:26,703
Well, I had had enough
of that so I
515
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,340
made his day worse
516
00:34:31,337 --> 00:34:35,267
by finally saying, you know,
what he didn't want to hear.
517
00:34:54,226 --> 00:34:56,026
When they were questioning me,
518
00:34:56,027 --> 00:35:00,427
that I had kind of recanted
in a way, it was--
519
00:35:00,432 --> 00:35:04,972
it blurted out of my mouth.
I, It just came out.
520
00:35:04,970 --> 00:35:07,910
[Mike] In all the times
I've been in courts
covering stories,
521
00:35:07,906 --> 00:35:10,906
I've never seen somebody
with that kind of courage.
522
00:35:10,909 --> 00:35:14,779
She is absolutely fearless
and I, I remember thinking,
523
00:35:14,780 --> 00:35:17,620
"Where is this gonna go?"
524
00:35:17,616 --> 00:35:21,016
[Jason] When Gabby testified,
that was really one of
the times where I thought,
525
00:35:21,019 --> 00:35:24,719
you know,
"Oh, you know,
we got a [bleep] chance."
526
00:35:34,466 --> 00:35:39,766
I needed an explanation for
as to why I was changing
my story
527
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:46,111
and, you know,
I went to church every Sunday
for three hours.
528
00:35:46,212 --> 00:35:48,852
God made me tell the truth.
God told me to do it.
529
00:35:57,389 --> 00:36:00,029
I felt better
once I had said it.
530
00:36:00,025 --> 00:36:03,085
There was always, like, this
knot in the pit of my stomach.
531
00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:04,864
And the second that I said,
532
00:36:04,863 --> 00:36:09,303
"That didn't happen.
God told me to tell
the truth,"
533
00:36:09,301 --> 00:36:11,141
that knot loosened.
534
00:36:12,938 --> 00:36:18,078
I had never in my life,
you know, met Dennis Pittman.
535
00:36:18,076 --> 00:36:21,646
I had never been introduced
to him by my parents.
536
00:36:21,647 --> 00:36:26,987
The truth of the matter is,
is that it didn't happen,
it never happened.
537
00:36:26,985 --> 00:36:28,445
They brainwashed us.
538
00:36:38,264 --> 00:36:42,704
[Mike] So, when Gabby finally
said, "This didn't happen,"
539
00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:44,471
I mean, if this were
a Hollywood movie,
540
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:46,570
the whole case would've
fallen apart right then.
541
00:36:46,572 --> 00:36:48,812
Margie Cantrell would've
fessed up
542
00:36:48,807 --> 00:36:50,277
to making the whole thing up.
543
00:36:50,276 --> 00:36:52,576
The, the judge would've
declared a mistrial,
544
00:36:52,578 --> 00:36:55,308
and everything would've been
hunky-dory.
545
00:36:55,314 --> 00:36:57,624
But this is Smith County.
[chuckles]
546
00:36:57,616 --> 00:36:59,986
And in Smith County
you keep going.
547
00:37:02,721 --> 00:37:04,391
[Jason] At the end of the day,
548
00:37:04,390 --> 00:37:06,490
with the way that they
tried the case
549
00:37:06,492 --> 00:37:07,862
and the way that they
argued it,
550
00:37:07,859 --> 00:37:10,029
going after hearts
rather than minds,
551
00:37:10,028 --> 00:37:13,628
I just felt like they would
sit there and say,
552
00:37:13,632 --> 00:37:15,332
"We're gonna
find this guy guilty."
553
00:37:17,603 --> 00:37:18,673
[gavel bangs]
554
00:37:21,172 --> 00:37:22,412
[Jason] And that's what
they did.
555
00:37:30,882 --> 00:37:35,652
In the back of your mind,
when you believe that
this guy is not guilty,
556
00:37:35,654 --> 00:37:38,894
it stings, you know,
that's the thing that
really hurts is knowing...
557
00:37:38,890 --> 00:37:40,390
[door buzzer rings]
558
00:37:41,327 --> 00:37:42,857
...an innocent man
went to prison.
559
00:38:06,352 --> 00:38:08,852
[Gabby]
After Dennis Pittman's trial,
560
00:38:08,854 --> 00:38:11,794
it got to the point where
I was not mentally okay
561
00:38:11,790 --> 00:38:15,360
because my parents' trials
were coming up really quickly.
562
00:38:16,828 --> 00:38:18,958
I knew that they were next.
563
00:38:18,964 --> 00:38:21,804
I was going through
a lot of mental struggles
564
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,800
at the time that this picture
was taken. I was suicidal.
565
00:38:25,804 --> 00:38:27,674
I wrote a suicide letter,
566
00:38:27,673 --> 00:38:30,513
stating that I couldn't
do this anymore.
567
00:38:30,509 --> 00:38:32,539
It was after that that,
you know,
568
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,520
they finally, you know,
started making the deals,
569
00:38:37,516 --> 00:38:40,746
and making it to where
I didn't have to testify
against my parents.
570
00:38:42,654 --> 00:38:46,164
And they make it sound like
it's for my health
and well-being,
571
00:38:46,157 --> 00:38:48,387
but I really think that
it was because
572
00:38:48,394 --> 00:38:51,204
they knew if I got back up
on that stand,
573
00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:54,898
it was not gonna be
what they wanted.
574
00:39:07,646 --> 00:39:10,916
At that point, Jimmy had been
behind bars for four years
575
00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:14,246
and he said, "I'm done.
I'll, I'll take a deal.
576
00:39:14,252 --> 00:39:16,562
I will admit guilt
to something I didn't do."
577
00:39:16,555 --> 00:39:20,155
Shelia said the same.
In exchange for the plea
578
00:39:20,158 --> 00:39:23,728
and agreeing to not have
contact with Gabby
till she was 18,
579
00:39:23,729 --> 00:39:26,599
Jimmy and Shelia were released
in August 2010.
580
00:39:36,608 --> 00:39:38,608
This is the new
Smith County Jail.
581
00:39:39,845 --> 00:39:42,175
This is the old one.
That's the one I was in
582
00:39:43,281 --> 00:39:46,721
for three years,
11 months and 23 days.
583
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,520
That recreation was
the only sunlight we ever got,
584
00:39:51,523 --> 00:39:55,033
and we probably got it,
maybe, once a week,
if we were lucky.
585
00:39:56,628 --> 00:39:58,558
I was on the third floor.
586
00:40:01,032 --> 00:40:03,172
Those were the infirmary windows.
587
00:40:05,370 --> 00:40:06,370
[interviewer speaking]
588
00:40:06,371 --> 00:40:08,341
Oh, yeah, several times.
589
00:40:08,339 --> 00:40:09,739
Getting stitched up.
590
00:40:11,142 --> 00:40:14,352
My memory here is straight up
hell on earth.
591
00:40:15,814 --> 00:40:18,224
I wouldn't wish this
on my worst enemy,
592
00:40:19,551 --> 00:40:21,891
especially for someone
being in jail
593
00:40:21,887 --> 00:40:23,757
when they didn't
commit a crime.
594
00:40:25,423 --> 00:40:27,393
When I took the plea bargain,
595
00:40:27,392 --> 00:40:33,002
my attorney told me that
I had to sign my rights
over to Gabby.
596
00:40:32,998 --> 00:40:35,528
That was the saddest day
of my life.
597
00:40:39,337 --> 00:40:42,507
I always told my daughter
that I would never give up
on her,
598
00:40:44,409 --> 00:40:46,009
and at this time I did.
599
00:40:49,447 --> 00:40:51,417
She was my baby girl.
600
00:40:51,416 --> 00:40:56,216
Everything in this world
did not matter to me
unless it involved Gabby.
601
00:41:01,126 --> 00:41:03,356
[Shelia] Gabby was
the love of my life,
602
00:41:04,329 --> 00:41:07,269
and she's still
the love of my life.
603
00:41:10,335 --> 00:41:12,735
We were very proud parents.
604
00:41:12,738 --> 00:41:16,208
Jimmy said he only ever wanted
one and that's what he got, one.
605
00:41:23,114 --> 00:41:27,154
[Jimmy] I never thought
I'd be living back here
in Mineola, but here I am.
606
00:41:30,155 --> 00:41:32,155
Considering all
the nightmares.
607
00:41:34,192 --> 00:41:37,602
The media had painted
such a horrible picture of us,
608
00:41:37,596 --> 00:41:38,896
that we were monsters.
609
00:41:42,367 --> 00:41:44,997
We were the worst scum
on earth.
610
00:41:48,039 --> 00:41:51,009
Little building right here
is the newspaper place.
611
00:41:55,714 --> 00:41:57,654
And then that building
up there
612
00:41:57,649 --> 00:41:59,589
is where
the swingers club was.
613
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,600
[exhales sharply]
614
00:42:28,279 --> 00:42:30,979
Just being here
makes me sick to my stomach.
615
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,620
This is
a piece of [bleep] place,
616
00:42:36,622 --> 00:42:38,962
it needs to be tore down,
as far as I'm concerned.
617
00:42:41,526 --> 00:42:43,486
And it's a reminder of evil.
618
00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:45,629
Straight up evil.
619
00:42:48,533 --> 00:42:51,203
It's not none of the kids'
fault that we went through this.
620
00:42:53,438 --> 00:42:55,408
It's the Cantrell family.
621
00:42:55,406 --> 00:42:57,406
Margie Cantrell
and John Cantrell.
622
00:42:57,408 --> 00:43:01,508
What do you think about
these allegations that are
being made against you?
623
00:43:01,512 --> 00:43:04,422
- We don't even know
most of them yet. [chuckles]
- Mmm-hmm.
624
00:43:06,184 --> 00:43:08,054
- [female lawyer] Margaret!
- Yes, ma'am.
625
00:43:08,053 --> 00:43:09,823
- [female lawyer] Go.
- [Margie] Yes, ma'am.
626
00:43:09,821 --> 00:43:11,191
- Go!
- No.
627
00:43:11,189 --> 00:43:13,659
Hurry up. Go.
628
00:43:14,693 --> 00:43:16,933
[Mike] Everything they'd said
was a lie,
629
00:43:16,928 --> 00:43:19,668
sex kindergarten,
the swingers club.
630
00:43:20,666 --> 00:43:22,496
And that ruined a bunch of
people's lives
631
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:24,400
and sent a bunch of people
to prison
632
00:43:24,402 --> 00:43:27,372
and ruin a bunch of children's
childhoods.
633
00:43:28,674 --> 00:43:30,384
- [car engine starts]
- [Mike] And then we found out
634
00:43:30,375 --> 00:43:34,345
why they would've done
all this in the first place.
635
00:43:34,345 --> 00:43:36,075
[Jimmy] They don't care
who they hurt.
636
00:43:37,115 --> 00:43:38,975
What family they devastate.
637
00:43:40,385 --> 00:43:41,785
They're in it for the money.
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