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Hey, everyone. I'm Clark Wolfe.
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And welcome to "Show
Me More", where we take
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a behind the scenes look
at what went into creating
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AMC's hit shows.
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Before we get into
it, I should warn you,
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there are lots of
spoilers ahead.
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Now, if you're all caught
up, let's get into part one
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of the final season of
"Fear The Walking Dead."
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Announcer: Presented
by T-Mobile.
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Padre was a mystery for
most of season seven.
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And what we did learn
about it at the end
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with Morgan and Madison
was hardly encouraging.
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Come on. She sounds scared.
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Padre: Like all
the children here,
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she will learn to separate
herself from her emotions.
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Wolfe: Well, in season
8, we sure learned
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a lot more about Padre.
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You're doing this
for the same reason
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we do everything. For Padre.
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Wolfe: Like who's in charge,
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how the community survived
for over seven years,
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and why you wouldn't exactly
call it a family friendly place.
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Not even close.
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Man: Who are we
learning this for?
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All: Padre!
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Man: Who sustains
our way of life?
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All: Padre.
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Goldberg: Padre is
our central settlement
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that is well fortified,
on the water,
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where we find our
characters in season 8.
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Man: Who is teaching
us to be strong?
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All: Padre.
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Goldberg: When Padre started,
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it was in this altruistic place.
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It really was created
to rebuild the world.
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Chambliss: Padre isn't
just a group of people.
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It isn't just a settlement.
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It really is a way of life.
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We kind of thought of this
as kind of like a modern day
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version of Sparta, where Padre
is collecting all these children
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from the apocalypse, and they're
kind of like this blank slate
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that Padre can teach
this new way of life to.
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Goldberg: They operate
on this philosophy of
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separating children
from their parents
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and raising them to not
have emotional connections.
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Chambliss: Individual
relationships, individual wants
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and needs are secondary to
the good of the community.
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You're doing this
for the same reason
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we do everything.
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For Padre.
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Goldberg: Children are
being raised to be strong,
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to be warriors, to
approach the world
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in a cold, brutal way.
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However, there's something
that they grow up
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fundamentally lacking,
which is connection.
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Every time I look out
there. I feel like something
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really big is
missing inside of me.
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Goldberg: Our characters are
separated from the people
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they care about, and
it's really redefined
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who they are as people
in the seven years
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since we last saw them.
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Who's that?
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Madison: That's your dad.
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Are you really my father?
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I am Mo...
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Wren. My name is Wren.
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Essentially, the kids
have been brainwashed.
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They believe their
parents abandoned them.
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They believe that Padre has
their best interests at heart.
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Padre. Can you hear
me? This is Wren.
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Man: Padre 1.
Wren, do you copy?
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Chambliss: Padre is run
by these two traumatized
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young adults who are
doing all of this because
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they lost their father.
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Don't let this die.
It's so important.
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Goldberg: They believe they
are protecting other kids
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from the pain that they felt.
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I know the pain Wren's in.
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The whole reason I am
doing what I'm doing
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is to prevent anyone else from
feeling that kind of pain.
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Chambliss: There are, in some
ways, good intentions behind
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Padre, but Shrike and
Crane have gone to this
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kind of very dark place.
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Woman: Wren, this
is to protect you,
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Eshet: Shrike and Crane,
they're extremists.
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They take very harsh actions
to keep their community safe.
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Stop, please!
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Eshet: And they really
did manage to keep
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this community going.
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Just so you know, Red Kite,
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no one's ever stolen a
child from Padre before.
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Padre's philosophy has
been quite effective.
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But there is a cost that
comes when you have to enforce
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your ideology with
such extreme measures.
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Stop! Let her go!
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Get her out of here now.
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Padre really has to be careful
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about showing any
kind of weakness.
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Don't move.
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Shrike: Call the prefect.
Tell them to get more guards.
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She's the reason Finch got bit.
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Finch got bit?
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They don't want to have a
bunch of kids wondering,
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wait, is it better out there?
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Are the parents that we've
been told didn't care about us,
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were our enemies, are
they really our enemies?
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Those kind of questions are
the thing that Padre really
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has to try to snuff out.
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You wanted to ask
Padre for the truth?
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Go ahead, ask us.
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Walton: Dove finds these files,
and it holds all the information
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about who her parents
were, what her name is.
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And that's just one story
out of many of the kids.
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Eshet: They lied to
all of the children.
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And I think that is going
to be their downfall.
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Let her go.
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You don't understand.
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She's Padre's daughter.
You've been lied to.
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Chambliss: Ultimately,
in its effort to survive,
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Padre ended up creating
the very people
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who are going to end
up bringing it down.
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Season 8 took us
to a watery world
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full of muck and mud
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and sinking boats
and swamp walkers.
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To do this, the show went
to the wetlands of Georgia,
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where they built a
swamp in a swamp.
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I really like working
in the manmade swamp.
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It's such an impressive
production design,
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the set design.
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All the special effects team,
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everything they've done,
it's pretty remarkable.
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Goldberg: The swamp
was a whole new element
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that we got in season 8
with the move to Savannah.
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Well, do the alligators,
and do the snakes,
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do they all know that
this is a manmade swamp?
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Goldberg: Our team went
in and excavated an area,
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put in our own swamp water
so that we could regulate
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and we could make sure that
there were no alligators
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or anything that
were getting in.
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We built this thing to
control the water levels
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and control the
critters and control...
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Just basically have control
over the environment.
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Goldberg: We got our
swamp walkers, which
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KNB just made them so
nightmarish and cool.
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Dickens: The first night
we worked in the swamp,
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it was really
moderate temperatures.
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And I remember us kind of
looking at each other like,
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"This is kind of fun, right?"
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James: Particularly the
man made swamp that we had,
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the water was constantly
moving and pumped fresh
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and all of that.
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And it was kind of nice, I'm
saying in inverted commas,
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when the weather was warm.
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When we were doing it
later on in the season
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and the weather had
turned, not so much.
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Dickens: It was a little
bit like a carnival ride
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to work on it because
you're working at an angle
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like this the whole time
and half wet the whole time.
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David: Looking at the set with
the houseboat in the water
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and Grace coming in on
that raft was so badass.
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I mean, I could not have
asked for a better entrance
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to start off the season.
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Who are you?
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I'm your mother.
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We've seen a lot
of horrible things
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on "Fear The Walking
Dead" over the years,
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but Shrike infecting
Finch with a walker bite
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on the train car is
about as dark as it gets.
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No, please!
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All in the name of finding
a cure that doesn't work.
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Goldberg: The train car was
this off site medical facility
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where Padre was doing
horrific experiments
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in the name of this cure.
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Hello, Blue Jay.
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Eshet: I infect Finch
to give June motivation
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to continue the research.
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Elfman: Padre started
these horrible experiments
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and held June at gunpoint
and made her do them.
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Why is Padre doing this?
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The same reason he
does everything...
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To ensure what
he's built endures.
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I sacrifice one individual
in order to find a vaccine
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and maybe solve
this for humanity.
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The set looked awesome.
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Goldberg: We wanted to
create this image of this
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house of horrors where
people who've had
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these terrible experiments
done to them for walker bites.
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But it's all coming
from this place of
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wanting to prevent loss,
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which is ultimately
something that you can't do.
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It was really brutal
to shoot that scene.
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It was awful.
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Dwight: No, no,
no, no, no, no, no.
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We're in this tight train car.
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Finch is a few feet
in front of us.
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We're tied to this pipe.
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To watch Dwight and Sherry's
reaction, as parents,
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helplessly watching something
happen to your child
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that you can't do anything
about is very emotional.
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Amelio: It was pretty
dark world, you know?
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So it's like you got to go there
in order for it to be truthful.
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I'm gonna kill you.
I'm gonna kill you!
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Elfman: I think we all
went back to the hotel
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and just, like, sat outside
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and, like, had to get some
fresh air after that day.
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Sure enough, one by one, our
characters turned on Padre.
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Where are you taking me?
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As far away from
Padre as possible.
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It started with
Madison, but Padre,
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led by Shrike and Crane,
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had a real knack
for making enemies.
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Just ask June or
Morgan, Grace, and Mo.
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What about everyone else?
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Or Dwight and Sherry.
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I'm gonna kill you.
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Or Daniel and his parent army.
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Padre, you pissed off the
wrong group of people.
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Hello? Is anyone in there?
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Wait, wait.
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Please. I'm not
going to hurt you.
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Dickens: Madison is
really important to Padre
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because she's
rebelling against them.
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She was being controlled and
brainwashed and led to believe
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that she was going to get
access to her children.
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You lied to me.
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She's consumed with guilt
for participating with Padre
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and collecting all the children.
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Her obsession becomes,
"Let me help these kids
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reunite with their parents."
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What's your name?
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Wren.
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No, it's not. It's Mo.
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When Mo realized maybe
she wasn't being told
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everything about how
she came to the island,
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things start to change.
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Change of plans.
We're leaving.
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Chambliss: When Madison
ends up escaping with Mo,
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that is such a dangerous
thing for Padre.
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If word were to get out,
that would start to show
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kind of the fissures
in the foundation.
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Where are we going?
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To find your dad.
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On a personal level,
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the revolution started with
Morgan spending time with Mo.
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I think he knows he's never
going to let her go again.
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I think the initial act
of defiance is massive
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because he's within
Padre's reach.
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What are you doing
here? How'd you find me?
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Evangelista: Sherry and
Dwight are on their mission
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to bring him back so they
could save their son.
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When they see what
Morgan is going through,
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there's a lot of compassion.
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Duane?
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And you sort of see these two
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parents mirroring each other.
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Morgan is essentially
going through
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the same thing with his son.
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Elfman: For June, Padre
is the exact opposite
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of everything June stands for.
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Her whole purpose is to help,
and once she left Padre,
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the only way she
could still help
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is by somehow disabling
the collectors.
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And she did that by cutting
off their trigger fingers.
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Padre has survived for so
long because it was mostly
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young people that
were being controlled.
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Elfman: There's been no forces
for good that are strong enough
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to overtake Padre.
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And we're all separated.
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Woman: Hands up!
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Blades: The army that
Daniel has trained,
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this army of parents, it
has proven pretty effective.
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Padre has lied to all of us.
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Maybe we can find out
what else he's lied about.
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Together.
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We'll let the commander decide.
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Who's the commander?
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Daniel: Turn around.
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What Daniel has done is
to give them a purpose,
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an organization,
and a leadership.
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Madison?
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Daniel?
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You know these people?
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Give them back their weapons.
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Blades: Daniel's family is gone,
but now he's going to try to get
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these people their
families back.
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And Padre is a place where
he can make that possible.
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Daniel: All these people
lost their children to Padre.
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And there are more of them.
Maybe your own parents.
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Madison.
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We'll hold them off. Go.
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When Madison and June
and Dove storm into Padre
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to have him show himself,
Madison smashes the mirror.
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We discover that it's a
very young man in there,
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Shrike's brother.
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Eshet: The secret revealed,
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is a huge danger for
the entire operation.
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What they're risking is that all
of the members of the community
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are going to turn against them,
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and then everything
could collapse.
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Do you know the
truth about Padre?
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There is no Padre. He's
been dead for a long time.
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Given the fact that Padre was
all built on just a series of
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lies, a series of playing
people off each other...
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Guns up!
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And because Shrike and
Crane were trying to prevent
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anyone else from feeling
any kind of loss,
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that kind of absolute I think
is just what ultimately made it
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inevitable that it would fall.
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You were just given an order!
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Fire.
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They won't do it.
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I think ultimately people
do need connection.
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People need family and
to build a community.
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Goldberg: More and more people
start to kind of tear down this
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wall of what Padre has built
and what was behind it.
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And even though it hurts
more to connect with people
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that you might lose,
it's still better
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than walling yourself
off from that connection.
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Morgan didn't just
fight Padre this season.
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He fought some serious
inner demons, as well.
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There was no telling when he
went into his red fugue state
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whether he might kill anyone
and anything around him.
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No!
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Lennie James talks about
how and why this happened,
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and cast and crew take us
through how they created
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the action on a sinking
houseboat full of walkers
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with Morgan seeing red.
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Morgan: I can't!
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This is Morgan's version
of post traumatic stress.
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Easy! Madison!
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Easy there. What happened?
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He doesn't remember when
he's in the red state.
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The audience actually
get a vision of Morgan
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that he never sees.
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My ax! Where is my ax?!
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He's trying to document
this version of himself.
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He's trying to write
down "Morgan was here,"
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and it just comes out in
broken, disjointed graffiti.
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The reason why this
has all woken up in him
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is because Morgan has taken
on the responsibility of Mo.
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What does clear mean?
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Clear? It's when I was
killing anything and anyone.
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If I can't look after her now,
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I might not be able to
do it in the future.
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I might not be able to
keep this child alive.
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Dad, help me!
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That is what blacks him out.
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That is what sends
him into the red.
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Before the take, I'd
try and hold my breath
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for as long as it's
humanly possible.
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It's like he's coming out
from being underwater.
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And he just needs to
get to the surface.
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And when he gets out of it,
he's gasping that air in.
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Woman: Morgan!
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James: We kept reminding
everybody who was around Morgan
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in those episodes that
what they had seen
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was someone to be frightened of.
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Did I hurt you?
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Managed to stay out of your way.
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There's a reason why Morgan
has lasted this long.
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When he's in the fugue state,
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he is capable of
serious destruction.
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McLean: We worked
with the show runner
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to develop a very interesting
effect for the Red Fugue states.
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We wanted a texture to it.
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Some of the things I used was
like melting paint inside of oil
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so that it swirled.
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And then we had to figure out
what is the best type of shot.
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You want it to be close
on his face so that
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he can shift, and the
background, just shoom.
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And then speed.
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A lot of it has
to do with timing.
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One of the last
pieces was an overlay.
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What is something that
floats on top of the screen?
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We sourced medical
images of eyeballs,
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so he's kind of in his
mind's eye, literally.
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I think it's going to
be a really cool effect.
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Sorry!
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You started killing,
and then it was like
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you thought I was one of them.
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It's okay.
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Man: Ready. Three,
two, one. Action.
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Today, the scenes that I'm
shooting are where Morgan and Mo
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are stuck in the houseboat
fighting the walkers
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while the water is rising.
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It does feel like I
am in a sinking boat
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because it happened so quickly.
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Armstrong: There's a progression
in terms of the sinking.
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We started on two different
set pieces we had.
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One was on airbags
that we could control
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a small, slight
descent into the swamp,
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and then we transitioned
to our full dunk tank.
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Iudica: And we have
a 120-ton crane
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to gently lower this
set piece underwater.
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When we sink the boat,
we'll sink it level,
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but it'll look like
it's at an angle.
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Platform weighs
about 15,000 pounds,
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so it gives us room for about
20 or so people on board.
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We control the speed, we control
the stops and the starts.
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There's always a safe exit.
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We have water pumps that
will create a lot of wake
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and agitation so you can get
water on the surface to ripple
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towards them or you can
bounce water off the wall,
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and then also compressed
air to add bubbles
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as if all of the air pockets
in the boat are releasing.
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Mo, give me my ax!
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McLean: When we're in the
swamps, VFX is here to help
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make things that are
safe seem dangerous.
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So any time there's a
safety wire or a rig
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or if there's hoses to keep the
water level in the right place,
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if we see that in the shot,
we can paint that out later.
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Come on. I can help you.
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I've got it.
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You know, we have
zombies stuck in the mud.
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We have people fighting
on the houseboat.
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The houseboat is sinking.
It's a wild scene.
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McLean: We make it super
controlled and super safe
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on set, and with a little
help from our stunt department
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and a little help from VFX,
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we make it look
really dangerous.
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Morgan: You're gonna
make it out of here, Mo.
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A big part of Morgan's story
this season was his need
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to deal with his trauma.
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That's why he returned to
his home in King County
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to put his wife Jenny and son
Duane to rest after so long.
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Sorry it took me so long.
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Wolfe: Over 10 years later,
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this iconic place we know
from "The Walking Dead" pilot
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was recreated thanks to
show runners Ian Goldberg
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and Andrew Chambliss, along
with the design and FX teams.
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It was a powerful
journey for Morgan,
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and it ends in devastation
when his moment of peace
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is shattered by
Grace getting bitten.
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Man: We just add
a puff of smoke.
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Two cameras.
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We knew as soon as we started
talking about season 8
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that this was going to be a
crucial episode for Morgan,
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and his journey, was taking
him back to King County,
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which is where his journey
began as a character,
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way back on the pilot
of "The Walking Dead."
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He say something?
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Thought I heard
him say something.
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He called me Carl. Son,
you know they don't talk.
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But it was kind of a tall
order. To say to ourselves like,
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"Okay, if we're going to
go back to this location,
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these sets, where the entire
kind of Walking Dead universe
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began, you know, we
had to have a story
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that really justified it.
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Over here. Come on.
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And I have to give just huge,
huge props to our entire team
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and our production designer,
Russell and his team,
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who rebuilt the house
with painstaking detail
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to match exactly what was there,
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which was no easy feat,
considering the last time
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we saw that house was
over 10 years ago,
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and it felt like
stepping into the past.
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Daddy.
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Bless him.
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The work that they
did on their own
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recreating that
place was fantastic.
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Jaeger: Obviously, we had to do
a tremendous amount of research
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to create what is
just an iconic space
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and then take that space
to its ultimate demise
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of destroying this iconic
piece of Walking Dead history.
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Mo: Dad, I'm upstairs.
I can't get out.
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Get to the attic, Mo.
I'm on my way to you.
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When my agent sent
me the e-mail,
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I literally asked
him, was he serious?
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And then I said, "Well, I
guess you are."
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And then I said yes.
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It was so exciting
to bring Jenny back.
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And the image of
Jenny as a walker
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standing outside that house,
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it's just so kind of rooted
in The Walking Dead's history.
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It was like we were right back
in "The Walking Dead" pilot.
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It was great to see her, and
I think it's a real testament
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to this particular universe
that such things can happen.
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I'm on my way!
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Chambliss: Through a combination
of some makeup effects
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and then some visual effects,
we were able to recreate
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walker Duane in
those final moments,
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when we finally saw
him up in that attic.
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Seeing the walker...
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Please!
485
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Duane as alive Duane,
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it's about that battle that...
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Help!...Morgan's
having with himself.
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Daddy! Daddy.
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McLean: They tore down
the house that was built
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and then made it look like
it had been burnt down.
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And it's super weird to see
something that you were just
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here for the night before
be completely transformed
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into something different
for the next scene.
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David: It's a home
full of memories,
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00:24:11,450 --> 00:24:13,970
a home full of history,
a home full of love,
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a home full of heartache.
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00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,410
And to see that all be
obliterated so quickly,
498
00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:24,280
like even me as Karen, I
was just watching this.
499
00:24:24,410 --> 00:24:27,160
I was so heartbroken
in that moment.
500
00:24:28,550 --> 00:24:31,420
James: When he buries
Duane and Jenny,
501
00:24:31,550 --> 00:24:34,600
I think he thinks he's at peace.
502
00:24:34,730 --> 00:24:37,040
We do what we said
we were gonna.
503
00:24:37,170 --> 00:24:40,130
Spend as much time
together as we can.
504
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:43,650
Goldberg: I think Morgan
does have a moment of peace
505
00:24:43,780 --> 00:24:46,000
when he's burying
Jenny and Duane.
506
00:24:46,130 --> 00:24:49,740
And the tragic part of it is
that just as that happens...
507
00:24:49,870 --> 00:24:52,050
Dad!
508
00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:53,790
Grace gets bit.
509
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,450
Come on.
510
00:24:55,580 --> 00:24:57,620
Morgan's love story
was one of the things
511
00:24:57,750 --> 00:25:00,490
that was hardest
for us to achieve,
512
00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:03,450
and I don't think we
could have done that
513
00:25:03,580 --> 00:25:06,760
without an actress of
Karen's caliber, really.
514
00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:09,590
Man: And cut.
515
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:13,510
Kenneth Requa did such a
beautiful job directing it.
516
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,210
We're really happy
with how it turned out.
517
00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:20,120
And cut. Great. Let's move on.
518
00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:24,690
Not so easy to move on
from an episode like this.
519
00:25:24,820 --> 00:25:28,910
And seeing that walker
bite on Grace, it hurts.
520
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,180
The end of the first
half of this final season
521
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:35,700
sadly takes us to the end of
our time with Grace and Morgan
522
00:25:35,830 --> 00:25:38,580
and with Karen David
and Lennie James,
523
00:25:38,710 --> 00:25:40,710
who talk about the
Grace/Morgan love story,
524
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,540
saying goodbye to these
powerful characters,
525
00:25:43,670 --> 00:25:46,190
and what the show
has meant to them.
526
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:47,930
We also hear from
their fellow cast
527
00:25:48,060 --> 00:25:51,720
and the show runners as they
pay tribute to this beloved duo.
528
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:04,950
James: When Morgan
walked in on "Fear",
529
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,730
he had holes in his shoes,
530
00:26:06,860 --> 00:26:10,300
his boots were held together
by tape, he was alone,
531
00:26:10,430 --> 00:26:13,130
he was friendless, frightened.
532
00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:14,960
He wanted to avoid people.
533
00:26:15,090 --> 00:26:16,456
Man: Are you sure
you're going to be
534
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:17,586
all right out there on your own?
535
00:26:17,610 --> 00:26:20,920
This world, we're always alone.
536
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:27,670
Grace: Take off your
clothes. All of them.
537
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:30,890
Grace is such a vital character
toward Morgan's journey.
538
00:26:31,020 --> 00:26:33,760
I've always been a
kind of serious guy.
539
00:26:33,890 --> 00:26:35,460
Really?
540
00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:37,696
The journey that this love
story has to go on has to go on
541
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,240
the fact that this is a man
542
00:26:39,380 --> 00:26:42,470
who is not in any way
aware of the possibility
543
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,550
of loving anybody apart
from his dead wife.
544
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:47,780
So this has to take
him by surprise.
545
00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:49,340
And that's a hell
of a job to do.
546
00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:51,740
And Karen did it.
547
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,440
David: When Morgan lay,
Duane and Jenny to rest,
548
00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:59,480
there was this sense
of finality, closure,
549
00:26:59,610 --> 00:27:01,350
this beautiful sense of peace.
550
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,710
It was sort of a 1-2 punch
of wanting to feel like right
551
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,930
at that moment of maximum hope,
552
00:27:09,060 --> 00:27:12,450
a walker punches
through a rubble.
553
00:27:12,580 --> 00:27:14,340
David: What a parent
will do for their child,
554
00:27:14,370 --> 00:27:15,516
they will die for their child.
555
00:27:15,540 --> 00:27:17,670
And she saw her
daughter in danger,
556
00:27:17,810 --> 00:27:20,630
and she just acted like
any parent would have.
557
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,420
It's just heartbreaking
in that moment
558
00:27:22,550 --> 00:27:24,120
because whatever
happiness and lightness
559
00:27:24,250 --> 00:27:26,810
that this family, you know,
the three of them could have,
560
00:27:26,940 --> 00:27:29,430
you want that so much for them,
and that's now been robbed.
561
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:30,840
Grace, I don't
think I'm going to
562
00:27:30,910 --> 00:27:32,520
make it to you before...
563
00:27:32,650 --> 00:27:34,780
I tell you, filming my
last moments with Lenny
564
00:27:34,910 --> 00:27:36,040
was really tough.
565
00:27:36,170 --> 00:27:37,830
I'm so sorry, Morgan.
566
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,610
David: Being on the walkie
and doing that scene
567
00:27:40,740 --> 00:27:42,920
was just so incredibly
heartbreaking.
568
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,830
David: When Grace is a walker,
569
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,270
it was hard to watch
even on the playback.
570
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,450
There's so much love in how
571
00:27:51,580 --> 00:27:54,930
Morgan just gently
laid her down.
572
00:27:55,060 --> 00:27:57,670
When we lose characters on
this show or characters die,
573
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,190
we want it to mean something,
574
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,760
we want it to leave
an emotional ripple.
575
00:28:01,890 --> 00:28:04,070
And Karen definitely did that.
576
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,810
James: The way we finished
with Grace is a real testament
577
00:28:06,940 --> 00:28:09,200
to the job that
Karen's done, really.
578
00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:10,510
It's supposed to hurt.
579
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,120
It's supposed to
break your heart.
580
00:28:12,250 --> 00:28:14,080
You're supposed to be angry.
581
00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:18,260
All of those things come into
play because we're losing Karen.
582
00:28:18,390 --> 00:28:22,390
She is like a bright
light. She's just sunshine.
583
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,310
I'm proud to have
worked with her.
584
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,960
I feel blessed that we
had this journey together.
585
00:28:29,620 --> 00:28:31,970
Both women, both
Grace and Karen,
586
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:38,280
are just these lovely sort
of self-sacrificial women.
587
00:28:38,410 --> 00:28:39,710
It's always hard to say goodbye.
588
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:43,590
Saying goodbye to
Karen David is not easy
589
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,280
because she's truly
one of the loveliest
590
00:28:45,410 --> 00:28:47,290
human beings to work with.
591
00:28:47,420 --> 00:28:50,380
When I think of her, I think
of her as a bouquet of flowers.
592
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:59,170
David: The family that
we've created with our crew,
593
00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,080
our creatives, our cast,
594
00:29:01,210 --> 00:29:03,690
the beautiful thing about
this whole experience
595
00:29:03,820 --> 00:29:08,350
of being part of this universe
is that you take the people
596
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,400
in your hearts and you take them
on your journey wherever you go.
597
00:29:13,530 --> 00:29:15,920
They are a part of who I am now.
598
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:22,190
Morgan: The way out is
opening the door to people,
599
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,150
to possibility, to the
hurt that will happen.
600
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,410
I've found the way,
and I opened the door,
601
00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:30,980
and then my life
started all over again.
602
00:29:31,110 --> 00:29:33,070
Chambliss: Lenny has
been such a fixture
603
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,120
since Ian and I
started in season 4,
604
00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:38,250
and he's been such a fixture
of The Walking Dead universe
605
00:29:38,380 --> 00:29:42,990
that it's really hard to imagine
making this show without him.
606
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,780
I'm a bit in denial that
Lenny's gone, to be honest.
607
00:29:45,910 --> 00:29:48,040
He's been such a vital
part of the journey.
608
00:29:48,170 --> 00:29:51,520
I think he's an inspiration.
Truly, he's one of a kind.
609
00:29:51,650 --> 00:29:55,660
We'll be forever grateful to
Lenny for his time with us.
610
00:29:55,790 --> 00:29:59,100
Lenny has been such a
tremendous part of it
611
00:29:59,230 --> 00:30:00,400
once he joined the show.
612
00:30:00,530 --> 00:30:01,970
It's been great to
play adversaries.
613
00:30:02,100 --> 00:30:03,840
I truly hope that
I get the chance
614
00:30:03,970 --> 00:30:06,800
to create with him other
characters in the future.
615
00:30:06,930 --> 00:30:09,060
But for now, I know I have
a brother and a friend.
616
00:30:09,190 --> 00:30:12,200
Dickens: Lenny James could
not have been more open to me
617
00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:15,680
and gracious in
welcoming me back.
618
00:30:15,810 --> 00:30:18,250
He's been an incredible
inspiration to watch
619
00:30:18,380 --> 00:30:21,820
and to work with, and
he lives in our hearts.
620
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:24,640
Elfman: I really look up
to Lenny James as an actor.
621
00:30:24,770 --> 00:30:28,340
Every chapter of Morgan
has that essence to him,
622
00:30:28,470 --> 00:30:32,430
just that benevolent heart
that he gets to walk away with.
623
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,960
Mo, I think, is super beautiful.
624
00:30:35,090 --> 00:30:38,270
To recognize for himself
that he has found love,
625
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,140
that he's capable of love, that
he's capable of giving again.
626
00:30:41,270 --> 00:30:44,530
And so he leaves
with the cup so full.
627
00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:49,020
James: When Morgan
walks away from "Fear",
628
00:30:49,150 --> 00:30:51,890
he has a child, he
has made friends,
629
00:30:52,020 --> 00:30:55,070
he's lost friends, and
he's had an effect on them.
630
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,680
And he leaves them better
than he found them.
631
00:30:58,810 --> 00:31:02,030
You can't really ask
for much more than that.
632
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,420
Morgan: This message
is for Rick Grimes.
633
00:31:05,550 --> 00:31:07,820
It's Morgan Jones.
634
00:31:07,950 --> 00:31:10,300
Man, I'm going to
come and look for you.
635
00:31:10,430 --> 00:31:15,220
Who knows? Maybe you
might even be listening.
636
00:31:27,620 --> 00:31:29,400
Goodbyes are never easy,
637
00:31:29,530 --> 00:31:32,320
and neither is finding
love in the apocalypse.
638
00:31:32,450 --> 00:31:33,630
But Grace and Morgan did it.
639
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:37,720
AMC has partnered
with the organization
640
00:31:37,850 --> 00:31:39,680
See Her to celebrate
the women of
641
00:31:39,810 --> 00:31:40,980
"Fear The Walking Dead."
642
00:31:41,110 --> 00:31:42,330
I'm not gonna hurt you.
643
00:31:42,460 --> 00:31:44,070
We put that spotlight
on Kim Dickens,
644
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,510
who talked about her
portrayal of Madison Clark
645
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,640
and her fight against Padre.
646
00:31:48,770 --> 00:31:49,876
Mo ended up at
Padre because of me.
647
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:51,250
Let me try to make this right.
648
00:31:51,380 --> 00:31:52,980
With a formidable
performance like Kim's,
649
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,690
it's no wonder Padre was
so scared of Madison.
650
00:32:00,870 --> 00:32:03,310
Padre: Do you really
want to do this?
651
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,920
There's nothing
you could do to me
652
00:32:05,050 --> 00:32:06,750
that's worse than what
I'm already living.
653
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,026
Dickens: Madison has
said it over and over.
654
00:32:08,050 --> 00:32:09,750
She's got nothing left to lose.
655
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,360
Once she's able to break free
from Padre's imprisonment
656
00:32:13,490 --> 00:32:15,320
and starts the rescue mission,
657
00:32:15,450 --> 00:32:18,240
that's the only thing that
gives Madison a will to live,
658
00:32:18,370 --> 00:32:20,500
is to make up for
the wrongs she's done
659
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:23,240
by reuniting these families.
660
00:32:23,370 --> 00:32:24,630
Seriously?
661
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,110
Coming back to the show
was very interesting
662
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,330
because I'd never
worked with Lenny.
663
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:33,950
I'd never worked
with Morgan Jones.
664
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Back on that beach,
I said I was going
665
00:32:36,210 --> 00:32:37,340
to save your daughter.
666
00:32:37,470 --> 00:32:38,870
I also said I was
going to save you.
667
00:32:38,910 --> 00:32:40,056
I guess that's what I'm
going to have to do.
668
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,130
We don't need saved.
669
00:32:41,260 --> 00:32:44,170
Those two unlikely
travel partners,
670
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:47,610
Morgan and Madison, or as
I like to call them, M&M,
671
00:32:47,740 --> 00:32:52,700
they have an amazing knowledge
and insight into each other.
672
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,920
Go. I'll draw them away.
673
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,620
We fell right into
step with each other.
674
00:32:56,750 --> 00:32:59,190
I spent seven years in a cell
so you could be with her.
675
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,370
This isn't about you.
I'm doing this for her.
676
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:04,110
I got to fight him.
677
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,850
We were fighting
like our day one
678
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:07,330
of getting to know each other.
679
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,290
I think she spots very early
on that Morgan needs to do
680
00:33:12,420 --> 00:33:13,900
what Morgan needs to do.
681
00:33:14,030 --> 00:33:15,770
It's happening again.
682
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:18,730
Dickens: As far as Madison's arc
goes, I think you finally see
683
00:33:18,860 --> 00:33:20,560
a glimmer of the old Madison,
684
00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:24,350
the warrior and the person who's
going to make things right.
685
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,090
And for me, I thought
that was astounding.
686
00:33:27,220 --> 00:33:29,390
Goldberg: Kim Dickens
is such a force.
687
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,440
That role is such an
iconic role in not just
688
00:33:33,570 --> 00:33:36,310
"Fear The Walking Dead," but
in the Walking Dead universe.
689
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,970
And this season, Madison
realizes that she's got
690
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,320
a decision to make.
691
00:33:40,450 --> 00:33:41,880
Who is she going to be,
692
00:33:42,020 --> 00:33:44,450
and how is she going to
protect the settlement?
693
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:51,070
So with Morgan passing the
leadership torch to Madison
694
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,420
and Padre's leaders going down,
there are some big questions
695
00:33:54,550 --> 00:33:56,860
to be answered before
the series concludes.
696
00:33:56,990 --> 00:33:59,340
Can Madison make Padre
into something good?
697
00:33:59,470 --> 00:34:01,430
Will Dwight and Sherry
be able to help?
698
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Will they even be
around? Will June?
699
00:34:04,210 --> 00:34:06,000
And of course, there
are a bunch of folks
700
00:34:06,130 --> 00:34:07,520
we haven't seen in a while.
701
00:34:07,650 --> 00:34:10,170
Like, say, Victor Strand.
702
00:34:21,010 --> 00:34:23,190
Now, why was he
calling you Anton?
703
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,230
It's such a gigantic task
to think about bringing
704
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,970
all these stories, all
these character journeys,
705
00:34:29,110 --> 00:34:30,410
not just to a conclusion,
706
00:34:30,540 --> 00:34:32,590
but also kind of bringing
them full circle.
707
00:34:32,720 --> 00:34:33,810
Come here.
708
00:34:33,940 --> 00:34:35,890
When we started to think about
709
00:34:36,030 --> 00:34:37,750
where do we want these
characters to end up,
710
00:34:37,810 --> 00:34:40,860
it actually led to the question
of, well, where did they start?
711
00:34:44,420 --> 00:34:46,860
Chambliss: We wanted to look
back at these characters
712
00:34:46,990 --> 00:34:48,950
from their very
beginnings on the show
713
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:53,870
and look at who they were back
then and who they were now,
714
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,350
and we could see how
far they've come.
715
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,050
Goldberg: With each of the
characters, to a certain degree,
716
00:35:00,180 --> 00:35:01,960
in the back half of this season,
717
00:35:02,100 --> 00:35:04,490
they have to look back
in order to look forward.
718
00:35:04,620 --> 00:35:07,270
I drew that when we
were both living here.
719
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,930
And the theme that kept
coming to the front
720
00:35:10,060 --> 00:35:13,670
of our minds was just
this idea of family.
721
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,630
If I just did it differently,
they both might be here.
722
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,500
And it all started
with Madison Clark.
723
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:24,420
She was this matriarch at the
beginning of the apocalypse
724
00:35:24,550 --> 00:35:27,380
who always wanted
to protect her kids,
725
00:35:27,510 --> 00:35:29,690
who wanted to create a world
where they could be safe,
726
00:35:29,820 --> 00:35:31,300
who wanted to give
them something that
727
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:33,130
really didn't exist anymore.
728
00:35:33,260 --> 00:35:34,340
You missed breakfast.
729
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,760
The kid needs a
place of her own.
730
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:37,146
I was thinking about
putting the bed over here.
731
00:35:37,170 --> 00:35:39,480
It all kind of boils
down to the story
732
00:35:39,610 --> 00:35:41,530
and the story you want to tell,
733
00:35:41,660 --> 00:35:45,490
the story that we think will
bring together all the themes,
734
00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:48,230
all the characters,
everyone's stories in a way
735
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,530
that will feel satisfying
736
00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:54,150
and also feel like it has
some real finality to it.
737
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,670
I'm going to help you.
738
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,590
You're going to help me.
739
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,630
Help you do what?
740
00:36:04,980 --> 00:36:06,770
Save Padre.
741
00:36:07,770 --> 00:36:09,860
I can't wait to see
how it all turns out
742
00:36:09,990 --> 00:36:12,210
in the final episodes.
743
00:36:12,340 --> 00:36:14,120
And for fans of The
Walking Dead universe,
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there is so much to
look forward to on AMC.
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We're going to make Padre
what it was meant to be
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in the first place.
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Thanks for watching
"Show Me More",
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and thanks for watching
"Fear The Walking Dead."
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Remember, you can catch episodes
of "Fear The Walking Dead"
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on AMC Plus, the AMC site
and apps, and on demand.
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Until next time,
I'm Clark Wolfe.
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