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Horror movies.
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Mutilation,
decapitation, torture.
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Does that sound entertaining?
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In the 80s, horror really
dove into this gritty,
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grimy, gross, horrific,
psychotic exploration
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of the chaotic maniac,
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the questionably
motivated murderer,
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the individual who
seemed to be after
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nothing but a blood lust as
punishment for promiscuity.
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Or materialism.
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Telling stories without
really worrying too much
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about justifying the
horror that these villains
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were imposing upon their victims
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was exploited in a
really wonderful way
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by the filmmakers of the 80s.
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I'm most interested in
fear, the emotion of fear.
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People pay to be scared,
and when you think about it,
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it's real ridiculous.
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Underneath all of
it were these cracks
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in the veneer.
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This place has a
way of making us think
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about the kind of future
our young people will have.
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Nationwide,
we found that minor cases
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of satanic activity
light up the map.
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It's 10 p.m.
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Do you know where
your children are?
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It's very much, for me,
the decade in which America
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tells stories about itself.
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There were hundreds and
hundreds of horror films
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produced in the 80s.
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The essence of sex and violence.
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It is the explosion
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of that video rental
market that fuels
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the modern horror films.
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There's something very
sexually attractive to horror.
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It's almost like you're
attracted to the forbidden fruit.
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Kids get the movies
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from the horror section
of the video store.
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Most of the violent
movies are rated R,
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and aren't supposed to be seen
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unless you're 17 years old.
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My mom would have died
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if she knew some of the stuff
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I was bringing
home and watching.
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So many weird things
in the movies of the 80s.
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I was genuinely scared.
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Maybe my imagination
was too vivid.
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It is a bit weird, isn't it?
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Strange horror.
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We just wanted to say
things really fast and loud.
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You know?
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Everything was
kind of over the top,
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and we were at a party.
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The 80s were a proving ground
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for horror films to
be commercially viable
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as movies that also were not
intellectually unrespectable.
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We will not be showing
you extreme violence
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in these movies.
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We've picked scenes that
only suggest the violence.
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We want to inform
you, not offend you.
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It's just as well we're not
showing some of those scenes.
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I think people would
turn their sets off.
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Yes.
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I could watch 80s horror
movies on a loop forever.
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It's never enough.
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Thrill me.
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"Death Ship".
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Your holiday in hell.
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"Death Ship" is
about a bunch of people
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on a cruise liner that sinks,
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and the survivors get onto
this passing freighter
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that turns out to be
haunted by Nazi ghosts.
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It's like it's running itself.
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This old ship seems to
have a life of its own.
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The movie stars Richard
Crenna and George Kennedy.
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This is my ship,
and I am the captain.
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It was directed by Alvin Rakoff,
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who primarily was a TV director.
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And it was written by Jack Hill,
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who was friends with
Francis Ford Coppola.
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They actually went to
film school together.
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And then afterwards,
they went and worked
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for Roger Corman on a
movie called "The Terror".
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"Death Ship" was a very early
example of Canuxploitation,
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which was something created
by the Canadian government.
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There was a tax break that
allowed it to be easier
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for Canadian filmmakers
to make movies.
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Thanks to Canuxploitation,
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there were a lot more Canadian
horror films that were made,
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as long as they included
Canadian actors and crew.
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We commit her soul,
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and we commit her body
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to the deep!
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No!
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It's not a very bloody film,
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but it's a very disgusting film.
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It's blood!
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It's blood!
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Hold on!
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There's moments in the film
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where they discover
what the ship is.
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They're going
through the bowels,
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and they start opening drawers,
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and they're finding gold teeth,
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things that were leftover
from tortured prisoners.
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Still running.
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And it makes the
film a lot darker
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than you would initially think.
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Let's get the hell out of here!
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Go!
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Watching it now, it doesn't
have as great an impact
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as it would have back in 1980.
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It hit harder back then.
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Because that was so much
closer to the Holocaust.
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Something
terrifying has happened
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to the children.
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Pray you never meet them.
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So many of these movies
have these idyllic beginnings.
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It's like, look at this town,
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look at these beautiful little
white children on a bus.
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They're singing.
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They love their life,
it's great.
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There's a toxic
plant, there's a leak,
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and the leak is, like,
leaking into the ground.
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This yellow mist is coming
off of this toxic stuff.
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Then we cut to the kids.
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โช Jolly, we love everybody
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And they all drive
through this yellow mist.
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So we know something
bad is going to happen.
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โช Cheers to the bus
driver, the bus driver โช
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The kids never come
home from school.
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They find the bus
abandoned by a cemetery.
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Convenient.
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I just found the school bus,
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about 100 yards from
the Ghoul place.
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Motor's still running,
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but no Fred, no kids.
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This idea of creepy
kids is very pervasive.
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It's universally scary,
because you don't want
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to fear your child.
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Daddy!
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You want to protect
your children.
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These evil kids are different,
because they smile at you,
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and they reach for you,
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and it's very hard
to not go to them.
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And when children will kill you,
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it's just terrifying.
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Particularly if they're,
like, void of a soul.
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Evil kids are always
gonna be scary.
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Whoa.
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Whatever did this
Billy, got Harry too.
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Then once it gets into the
suspense part of the film,
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I'm like, I know this music.
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Mommy!
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This is kind of
the same exact score
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as "Friday the 13th".
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It had a lot of
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without the ch-ch-ch, ah-ah-ah.
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The score of this movie
is by Harry Manfredini.
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Of course, "Friday the 13th"
came out in May of 1980,
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and "The Children"
came out in June.
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Oh my god!
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Daddy!
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Harry Manfredini's score
was more than the budget
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for the actual
filming of the movie.
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Well, you get some violins
and you make them scream.
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I had more money to spend.
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So, consequently it opens
up way more choices.
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There was a score by Jerry
Goldsmith called "Coma"
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where all the violins go
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like that, and I go
wow, that's cool.
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That's effective.
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And so I figured out
how I would do that.
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I'd be running from
the kids, though.
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I'll tell you that.
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I'll tell you that
and three quarters.
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I'd be like, nope.
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Joni!
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No!
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Kathy, don't!
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Don't get got
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by your child with an
inexplicable manicure.
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It is not your child.
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Little Billy has
left the building.
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He gone.
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"Prom Night"
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If you're not back by midnight,
you won't be coming home.
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Slashers, a lot of times,
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especially in 1980 as a
reaction to "Halloween",
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they weren't necessarily
going very deep emotionally.
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That real life
horror of prom night
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is what kind of sets it
apart from a lot of different
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slashers from that time.
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Kill!
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Kill!
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The setup is so vicious that
you really felt the atrocity
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of what happened.
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Six years later,
it's prom night,
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and somebody's gonna pay for
that little girl who died.
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As we go through the
high school experience,
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which everybody knows is
just a form of torture.
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Certain people try to
rectify that experience.
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All these people that had
been carrying this secret
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for so long, you can't
hide stuff like that.
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You just can't.
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Not for long.
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Not forever.
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It's been a long time.
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Tonight, it's my turn.
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The suspense is great.
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You know, the fact that
it's a backwards whodunit,
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because you know, we're
trying to figure out
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who's going to do
it, the whole time.
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How about a muffin?
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No, cookie.
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Like me better now?
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There's always red
herrings in the movie,
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but then, of course, the
killer starts picking them off,
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one by one, like at the prom.
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Kelly!
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You've got Jamie Lee
Curtis at her sassy best,
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and I love her.
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- I did it!
- Oh, shut up!
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She has this little 80s
cut, this little flip thing,
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which is everything that
I needed in my life.
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She is not Laurie
Strode in this thing.
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She's like a popular
girl this time.
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It's reminiscent of so
many other influences.
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"Carrie" is in there.
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"Saturday Night
Fever" is in there.
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โช The feeling's right
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It's sort of this last
bastion of disco culture.
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โช Tonight is the night
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Jamie Lee Curtis was
dancing her little booty off
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in this movie, and
I'm here for it.
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One of the fun things
about "Prom Night'
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is that at the end,
the song that's playing
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is called "Love Me Til I Die".
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โช Love me til I die
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โช And keep me satisfied
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Don't necessarily expect
prom to be the best night
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of your lives, because a
lot of people could die.
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- No!
- Now!
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This one, along
with "Terror Train",
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these were the movies
that really solidified
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Jamie Lee Curtis
as a scream queen.
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The big moment
for me is the end,
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and the reaction from
Jamie Lee Curtis,
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because she knows
who's behind it all,
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and it's a real
traumatic moment.
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โช Imagine something
deep inside โช
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Watching severed heads
roll out on prom night
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is pretty fun.
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No!
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He knows you're alone
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And it's going to be
for the very last time.
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You know, sometimes
our dogs of the week
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are laughably bad.
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This one borders on being evil.
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Staten Island slasher.
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Love a regional slasher.
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This one you have
Caitlin O'Heaney
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playing a young bride-to-be
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who's being stalked
by a serial killer
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right before her wedding.
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And I like when a
slasher just tells you
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who the killer is
at the beginning.
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Here's Ray.
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Ray.
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This is the killer.
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"He Knows You're Alone"
is a 1980s slasher
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directed by Armand Mastroianni.
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He, of course, went on to
direct other 80s entries,
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like "The Clairvoyant",
"The Supernaturals",
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and "Cameron's Closet".
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This one's a bit of an outlier
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because it's actually a
studio produced slasher.
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MGMUA did it.
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So it's got a little
higher production value.
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โช It's the night again
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It's got your garden variety
slasher effects in there,
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but there's a memorable
head in a fish tank moment.
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Tom Hanks' first movie.
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America's favorite, Tom Hanks.
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I stretched out an extra
foot to make sure I'd trip you.
286
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Why'd you do that?
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Well, it seemed the
best way to meet you.
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Apparently, he was
supposed to die in the film,
289
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but they cut it
because of how great
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his performance was.
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Horror movies and
the roller coasters,
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and the House of Horror ride-
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I wanna go on that next!
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You can face death without
any real fear of dying.
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Everyone loves Tom Hanks.
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They're like, we
can't fucking kill
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this lovable, likable man.
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He's a darling.
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We're not gonna murder him.
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It came without warning,
301
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and now it's coming for you.
302
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"Without Warning" is from
the great Greydon Clark
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and it doesn't get nearly the
amount of praise it deserves.
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It's got an amazing
cast, with Jack Palance,
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and Martin Landau, who at
the time was mostly known
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for "Space: 1999" and
"Mission Impossible".
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And he's playing this
wild-haired conspiracy nut,
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who's the only one who
knows about the alien,
309
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and no one believes him.
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Look, I warned you!
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When they start eating on you,
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don't come to me for help,
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because you ain't getting any.
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You've got this gigantic alien
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who's on earth to hunt humans.
316
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It throws these little
parasitic alien frisbees
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that latch onto people.
318
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The movie was shot
by Dean Cundey,
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who is the award-winning
cinematographer of "The Thing",
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as well as numerous other
John Carpenter films.
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In 1987 during a press
tour, Arnold Schwarzenegger
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stated that the movie
"Without Warning"
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was a direct influence
on the movie "Predator".
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It's done really well, and it's
such a creepy-looking alien,
325
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when I saw it when I was little,
326
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it scared the hell out of me.
327
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And who's in the costume?
328
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Kevin Peter Hall, who was in
the costume of the Predator.
329
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The movie made its way to
a company called Filmways,
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who didn't want to release it.
331
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They actually wanted
to bury the film
332
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Greydon Clark had
to threaten to sue
333
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in order to get
the film released.
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Knowing this was the creative
spark for "Predator",
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you should absolutely
check it out,
336
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especially if you
love that film.
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You can see the influence
coming from here.
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By the time they believe in him,
339
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it will be too late.
340
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"The Boogeyman".
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Rated R.
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In classic slasher tradition,
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this movie starts with a
prologue with children,
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who are being
traumatized in some way.
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Its "Halloween"
DNA is very present
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out of the gate.
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With the music, and its POV,
348
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and sort of a voyeuristic thing,
349
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looking at folks engaged
in carnal frivolity.
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What are you lookin' at?
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They've walked in on their mom
352
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making out with a fella
353
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who then ties up the boy.
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The boy's sister,
she cuts him loose.
355
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The boy goes on to kill
the man who tied him up.
356
00:17:26,751 --> 00:17:28,510
And he gets trapped
in this mirror.
357
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He is suddenly a supernatural
presence in their lives.
358
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I know he's here.
359
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Who?
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When I broke the
mirror, I released him.
361
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Lacy, he's dead!
362
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There's a guy
sitting in the car,
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pricks him in the
neck with a knife.
364
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His girlfriend comes in
through the passenger side
365
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to, like, give him a kiss.
366
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So they're skewered together,
367
00:18:03,131 --> 00:18:05,796
and it's like a
double-death scene.
368
00:18:05,820 --> 00:18:08,279
I never seen a kiss this long.
369
00:18:08,303 --> 00:18:11,313
That was kind of
an amazing kill.
370
00:18:11,337 --> 00:18:14,072
It gets very bizarre,
only because it's like
371
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three different
things in one movie.
372
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Like they were just kind of
throwing everything at it
373
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to see what stuck.
374
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Let's just do all of it.
375
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Let's make it a weird
voyeuristic kinky slasher
376
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supernatural exorcism
cyborg demon thing.
377
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Get away!
378
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There's some unique stuff
happening behind the scenes
379
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on this one.
380
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Susanna Love, and Nicholas Love,
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actually brother and
sister in real life,
382
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playing siblings in the film.
383
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Moreover, Susanna is the
co-writer of the film,
384
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and married to her
writing partner
385
00:18:52,027 --> 00:18:54,658
and the director of
the film, Ulli Lommel.
386
00:18:54,682 --> 00:18:57,451
An incredibly
underrated director.
387
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He's imaginative,
he's different.
388
00:19:01,268 --> 00:19:03,624
"Boogeyman" was
a low budget film
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that was incredibly successful,
390
00:19:05,268 --> 00:19:09,027
and that's what really
put Lommel over the edge.
391
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The sequel is another
interesting one,
392
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because the "Boogeyman 2"
predates the "Scream" franchise
393
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in that in concerns a
Hollywood production
394
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trying to make a film about
the events of the first film.
395
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So it's very meta in that way,
396
00:19:26,751 --> 00:19:29,510
and meta before there was a
whole lot of meta going on.
397
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Boogeyman!
398
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"Christmas Evil".
399
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The night he dropped in.
400
00:19:47,510 --> 00:19:49,555
I just love horror
set at Christmas.
401
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And in the 80s,
there's tons of it.
402
00:19:54,786 --> 00:19:56,762
Christmas is a time
when things are
403
00:19:56,786 --> 00:19:59,279
supposed to be a certain way,
404
00:19:59,303 --> 00:20:02,176
and horror films are
all about subverting
405
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,727
what it is supposed to be.
406
00:20:03,751 --> 00:20:06,579
And so Christmas and horror
really go hand in hand.
407
00:20:10,337 --> 00:20:13,451
Brandon Maggart plays
a middle-aged man,
408
00:20:13,475 --> 00:20:14,934
doesn't have any friends,
409
00:20:14,958 --> 00:20:17,544
doesn't have a girlfriend,
or anything like that.
410
00:20:17,744 --> 00:20:19,651
Works at a toy factory,
411
00:20:19,675 --> 00:20:23,675
and he likes Christmas
a little bit too much
412
00:20:23,975 --> 00:20:27,803
to the point where he starts
to kill for Christmas.
413
00:20:27,903 --> 00:20:29,776
I have superlative taste.
414
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,800
Merry Christmas!
415
00:20:33,072 --> 00:20:35,358
"Christmas Evil" is a
movie that usually gets
416
00:20:35,382 --> 00:20:38,082
classified as a horror film,
417
00:20:38,106 --> 00:20:42,151
but it's really more of a
psychological character study
418
00:20:42,175 --> 00:20:44,048
similar to "Taxi
Driver", or something,
419
00:20:44,072 --> 00:20:46,531
where you're just
watching this lonely
420
00:20:46,555 --> 00:20:50,555
socially isolated guy
just start to crack.
421
00:20:54,624 --> 00:20:57,531
Lewis Jackson was
obsessed with Fassbender
422
00:20:57,555 --> 00:21:00,072
and German expressionism
at the time of making it.
423
00:21:00,968 --> 00:21:01,877
What are you saying?
424
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I'm gonna play my tune now.
425
00:21:04,693 --> 00:21:05,496
Everybody'll dance.
426
00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:06,428
You'll see.
427
00:21:06,452 --> 00:21:08,462
And adding that art side to it
428
00:21:08,486 --> 00:21:11,048
I believe gives it the
more fantasy element,
429
00:21:11,072 --> 00:21:14,003
and Christmas is based
around magic and fantasy.
430
00:21:15,279 --> 00:21:17,151
The look of the film is great.
431
00:21:17,175 --> 00:21:20,348
Every scene of this
movie glows of Christmas.
432
00:21:21,348 --> 00:21:24,565
Merry Christmas everyone!
433
00:21:24,589 --> 00:21:27,082
The holidays are hard
for a lot of people.
434
00:21:27,106 --> 00:21:29,669
Even if you are
well-off, the holidays
435
00:21:29,693 --> 00:21:31,738
are a very stressful period.
436
00:21:31,762 --> 00:21:33,762
And "Christmas
Evil" captures that.
437
00:21:36,003 --> 00:21:36,911
Harry?
438
00:21:36,935 --> 00:21:38,738
Merry Christmas, Frank!
439
00:21:38,762 --> 00:21:41,496
It's so nightmarish and weird.
440
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,979
You see him tug on his
beard and it doesn't move,
441
00:21:44,003 --> 00:21:45,565
like it becomes a part of him,
442
00:21:45,589 --> 00:21:49,313
like a horror version of Tim
Allen's "The Santa Claus".
443
00:21:51,313 --> 00:21:53,289
Are we seeing him
become Santa Claus,
444
00:21:53,313 --> 00:21:56,037
or is Harry seeing himself
become Santa Claus?
445
00:21:57,106 --> 00:22:00,669
Merry Christmas!
446
00:22:00,693 --> 00:22:03,117
It's a movie that
I think will surprise
447
00:22:03,141 --> 00:22:04,841
a lot of people the
first time they watch it,
448
00:22:04,865 --> 00:22:06,220
especially the ending,
449
00:22:06,244 --> 00:22:08,589
because that comes out
of fucking nowhere.
450
00:22:10,003 --> 00:22:11,772
Are we seeing what we're seeing
451
00:22:11,796 --> 00:22:13,496
onscreen actually happening?
452
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,934
Or is this how Harry
is dealing with it?
453
00:22:18,762 --> 00:22:20,738
"Christmas Evil" was
the title of the movie
454
00:22:20,762 --> 00:22:22,669
that the distributor
gave that Lewis Jackson
455
00:22:22,693 --> 00:22:25,289
did not approve of, and
actually didn't know
456
00:22:25,313 --> 00:22:26,807
that it was called
"Christmas Evil"
457
00:22:26,831 --> 00:22:29,151
until he saw the trade when
it was being re-released.
458
00:22:29,175 --> 00:22:31,013
But the film was called
"Better Watch Out".
459
00:22:31,037 --> 00:22:32,910
That's what he filmed
it as, and that's what
460
00:22:32,934 --> 00:22:34,841
he knew it as, and
he still to this day
461
00:22:34,865 --> 00:22:37,565
does not like the
name "Christmas Evil".
462
00:22:37,589 --> 00:22:39,900
โช Merry Christmas
463
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,206
Fun fact.
464
00:22:41,306 --> 00:22:43,110
Brandon Maggart
would later go on
465
00:22:43,134 --> 00:22:46,627
to become singer Fiona
Apple's dad in real life,
466
00:22:46,651 --> 00:22:49,076
proving once again
that the apple
467
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,513
never falls far from
the Christmas tree.
468
00:22:59,134 --> 00:23:00,627
One of the big reasons
that horror films
469
00:23:00,651 --> 00:23:02,731
have remained so
popular is that it is
470
00:23:02,755 --> 00:23:05,144
a guaranteed way
to make some money.
471
00:23:05,168 --> 00:23:08,455
If you don't spend a hell
of a lot of money on it,
472
00:23:08,479 --> 00:23:09,903
there's gold in those hills.
473
00:23:09,927 --> 00:23:11,662
There are people out
there who are willing
474
00:23:11,686 --> 00:23:15,076
to take a chance on any
kind of horror movie.
475
00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:16,903
And the video
revolution came along,
476
00:23:16,927 --> 00:23:18,765
and it changed everything.
477
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:22,007
Now this is a video
tape recorder, or VTR,
478
00:23:22,031 --> 00:23:23,179
actually sometimes
they're called
479
00:23:23,203 --> 00:23:25,765
video cassette
recorders, or VCRs.
480
00:23:25,789 --> 00:23:29,007
The ability to play
a movie, or a show,
481
00:23:29,031 --> 00:23:31,765
an entertainment,
at whim, at will,
482
00:23:31,789 --> 00:23:35,100
that did not exist prior to
this home video revolution.
483
00:23:36,686 --> 00:23:38,800
That's the thing that
most people today,
484
00:23:38,824 --> 00:23:40,455
where everything's
accessible and fast,
485
00:23:40,479 --> 00:23:43,524
don't realize that
it was not like that.
486
00:23:43,548 --> 00:23:46,489
Now, some of the best
movies on television
487
00:23:46,513 --> 00:23:47,662
aren't on television.
488
00:23:47,686 --> 00:23:49,076
They're on SelectaVision.
489
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:51,007
Well, now it was instant
gratification time.
490
00:23:51,031 --> 00:23:52,282
400.
491
00:23:52,306 --> 00:23:53,524
Set it today.
492
00:23:53,548 --> 00:23:55,765
It was a whole world
opened up to people.
493
00:23:55,789 --> 00:23:57,317
Movies in the 50s
and 60s, I mean,
494
00:23:57,341 --> 00:23:59,076
you hoped that a Hammer
film was gonna play
495
00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:00,558
in your neighborhood,
because if it didn't,
496
00:24:00,582 --> 00:24:02,351
you weren't gonna
see it for five years
497
00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:03,489
until it went on television.
498
00:24:03,513 --> 00:24:05,386
You largely couldn't
see it at all,
499
00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:07,972
or if you could, you had
to see it chopped to pieces
500
00:24:07,996 --> 00:24:09,686
on the 4:30 movie.
501
00:24:14,444 --> 00:24:18,317
So when video appeared, it
was like this dam broke.
502
00:24:18,341 --> 00:24:20,696
There was this new
distribution outlet
503
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,524
for these films that were
able to be repackaged
504
00:24:23,548 --> 00:24:25,420
and given a whole
new lease of life,
505
00:24:25,444 --> 00:24:28,800
or films that had only come
out in their native country,
506
00:24:28,824 --> 00:24:30,765
then all of a sudden,
they had an outlet
507
00:24:30,789 --> 00:24:32,455
in other territories.
508
00:24:32,479 --> 00:24:34,548
"The Curse of the Devil".
509
00:24:36,168 --> 00:24:40,765
The video tape revolution
brought a new appreciation
510
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:43,248
for some of my films,
especially "The Thing".
511
00:24:43,272 --> 00:24:47,420
What really began video, like
with the internet, was porn.
512
00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:48,387
What's it like to become
513
00:24:48,411 --> 00:24:50,076
one of football's cowgirls?
514
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:52,593
Debbie Does Dallas
has all the answers.
515
00:24:52,617 --> 00:24:55,662
I think the first
VHS I ever bought
516
00:24:55,686 --> 00:25:00,386
was a porn tape that cost,
like, $80 back in the 70s.
517
00:25:00,410 --> 00:25:02,938
How a lot of us consumed
media at that time,
518
00:25:02,962 --> 00:25:05,662
it impacted the way
people made movies.
519
00:25:05,686 --> 00:25:07,938
Especially the
beginning of the VHS,
520
00:25:07,962 --> 00:25:10,317
all the video
stores were private
521
00:25:10,341 --> 00:25:11,903
they're just pop-ups.
522
00:25:11,927 --> 00:25:13,627
They had to buy product.
523
00:25:13,651 --> 00:25:18,651
So they would go out and buy
5000 VHS's for their store.
524
00:25:19,375 --> 00:25:20,042
What did they buy?
525
00:25:20,066 --> 00:25:21,455
Sex and horror.
526
00:25:21,479 --> 00:25:22,696
We cater to their demands.
527
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:23,490
Whatever, they tell
us what they want,
528
00:25:23,514 --> 00:25:24,903
and we try to get it.
529
00:25:24,927 --> 00:25:26,524
And we have a large
horror section,
530
00:25:26,548 --> 00:25:28,938
and of course with real
heavy nude releases.
531
00:25:28,962 --> 00:25:30,834
We get a lot of films
called B movies.
532
00:25:30,858 --> 00:25:34,524
There's distributors who
were feeding that pipeline,
533
00:25:34,548 --> 00:25:37,100
and they needed somebody
to make the movies.
534
00:25:38,272 --> 00:25:41,110
Those movies, they
became products.
535
00:25:41,134 --> 00:25:43,237
They needed to fit
a certain mold.
536
00:25:44,444 --> 00:25:46,524
"Halloween" and
"Friday the 13th".
537
00:25:46,548 --> 00:25:49,076
These two films
dominated the box office,
538
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,076
and then they
dominated home video.
539
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:54,076
Once horror started
doing well on video,
540
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:57,168
that's when everybody
realized it very quickly.
541
00:25:58,582 --> 00:26:02,800
The 80s began the
period of crapola movies
542
00:26:02,824 --> 00:26:04,248
made straight for video,
543
00:26:04,272 --> 00:26:09,134
only to satisfy the
insatiable VHS market.
544
00:26:10,651 --> 00:26:13,455
It was just tons and
tons of new horror movies
545
00:26:13,479 --> 00:26:14,662
being made all the time,
546
00:26:14,686 --> 00:26:16,731
especially the super
low budget ones.
547
00:26:16,755 --> 00:26:19,076
I think everybody with
a camera and 10 bucks
548
00:26:19,100 --> 00:26:21,134
made their own horror
movies back then.
549
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,662
Companies, they were
also buying cheaper films
550
00:26:25,686 --> 00:26:29,282
that were independently
made to put in stores.
551
00:26:29,306 --> 00:26:31,444
And those were your
direct to video days.
552
00:26:32,996 --> 00:26:36,317
Shot on video brought
the price of making a film
553
00:26:36,341 --> 00:26:40,765
down to $50,000, $40,000,
$30,000, and even less.
554
00:26:40,789 --> 00:26:43,351
You could make a movie on Monday
555
00:26:43,375 --> 00:26:45,765
and have it in the video
store by Wednesday.
556
00:26:45,789 --> 00:26:47,213
You didn't need a big studio.
557
00:26:47,237 --> 00:26:50,179
You didn't need to go begging
for someone to produce it.
558
00:26:50,203 --> 00:26:52,179
You could just make your project
559
00:26:52,203 --> 00:26:53,662
and put it out there on video,
560
00:26:53,686 --> 00:26:55,938
which I did many,
many, many times.
561
00:26:55,962 --> 00:26:58,076
Hello darling, and
welcome to another
562
00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,420
fabulous Thriller Video.
563
00:27:00,444 --> 00:27:01,938
Thriller Video.
564
00:27:01,962 --> 00:27:03,627
We had a collection
of horror movies
565
00:27:03,651 --> 00:27:06,144
that were kind of
old and tired and bad
566
00:27:06,168 --> 00:27:07,627
that nobody wanted to see,
567
00:27:07,651 --> 00:27:10,007
so I did my wraparound
thing on them,
568
00:27:10,031 --> 00:27:11,731
and we released them to video,
569
00:27:11,755 --> 00:27:14,306
and they sold like hotcakes.
570
00:27:15,651 --> 00:27:18,800
Now this one's in kind
of a different vein,
571
00:27:18,824 --> 00:27:20,213
jugular vein, that is.
572
00:27:20,237 --> 00:27:22,627
There were more
distribution companies
573
00:27:22,651 --> 00:27:24,100
than you could count.
574
00:27:25,927 --> 00:27:28,007
Jack Valenti, the
head of the MPAA,
575
00:27:28,031 --> 00:27:30,593
was whining that video cassettes
576
00:27:30,617 --> 00:27:32,869
would destroy copyright law.
577
00:27:32,893 --> 00:27:35,903
The studios wouldn't
license their stuff.
578
00:27:35,927 --> 00:27:39,179
They saw video as
being a threat.
579
00:27:39,203 --> 00:27:42,179
So there was open field
for anybody who wanted
580
00:27:42,203 --> 00:27:44,351
to start a company.
581
00:27:44,375 --> 00:27:47,375
Charlie Band took
advantage of it the most.
582
00:27:48,686 --> 00:27:51,455
Charles Band was a
pioneer in this time,
583
00:27:51,479 --> 00:27:54,007
creating multiple labels,
putting these films
584
00:27:54,031 --> 00:27:55,203
in video stores.
585
00:27:56,341 --> 00:27:58,179
This is a tough business,
586
00:27:58,203 --> 00:28:00,007
but every business
is challenging.
587
00:28:00,031 --> 00:28:02,755
It was rental that
made the thing explode
588
00:28:03,962 --> 00:28:05,386
Come to the warehouse,
589
00:28:05,410 --> 00:28:06,558
and rent the hit movies you
want when you want them.
590
00:28:06,582 --> 00:28:08,731
Around 1982 is
when the video stores
591
00:28:08,755 --> 00:28:11,765
started doing way, way better.
592
00:28:11,789 --> 00:28:16,420
By 1985 there was around
12,000 video stores
593
00:28:16,444 --> 00:28:18,007
in the United States.
594
00:28:18,131 --> 00:28:19,555
You can
now rent a video overnight,
595
00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:23,172
and hire these great
movies from only 99 cents.
596
00:28:23,296 --> 00:28:28,134
Close to the late 80s,
there was around 40,000 places
597
00:28:28,158 --> 00:28:31,031
that were renting tapes,
so this was a huge impact
598
00:28:31,055 --> 00:28:33,134
for the horror
genre, because people
599
00:28:33,158 --> 00:28:34,686
were renting horror films.
600
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:38,203
Tapes around that
time weren't $5.
601
00:28:38,227 --> 00:28:39,789
They weren't $2.
602
00:28:39,813 --> 00:28:44,307
They were typically
49.95 up to $100.
603
00:28:44,331 --> 00:28:49,331
So if you had 40,000 stores
buying at least one tape,
604
00:28:50,468 --> 00:28:52,444
you were lining your
pockets full of money.
605
00:28:52,468 --> 00:28:54,537
And this was a million
dollar industry.
606
00:28:55,675 --> 00:28:58,341
And a lot of video
labels had either one
607
00:28:58,365 --> 00:29:01,134
to maybe 20 titles
in their catalog,
608
00:29:01,158 --> 00:29:02,410
but that's all they needed,
609
00:29:02,434 --> 00:29:04,376
because it was
millions of dollars
610
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:05,824
that they were making.
611
00:29:05,848 --> 00:29:07,927
And then they started
producing their own stuff,
612
00:29:07,951 --> 00:29:09,893
giving filmmakers $50,000,
613
00:29:09,917 --> 00:29:11,686
because they knew that they
were gonna make millions
614
00:29:11,710 --> 00:29:12,996
selling to video stores,
615
00:29:13,020 --> 00:29:15,227
so it just revolutionized
everything.
616
00:29:18,124 --> 00:29:21,513
Troma became a staple
of the home video market,
617
00:29:21,537 --> 00:29:24,582
because we had accumulated
about 60 movies.
618
00:29:24,606 --> 00:29:26,238
We wanted to own our movies,
619
00:29:26,262 --> 00:29:27,824
we wanted to own all the rights,
620
00:29:27,848 --> 00:29:31,996
and we wanted to have a
collection, have a library.
621
00:29:32,020 --> 00:29:36,089
The theory behind Troma
was to own your negatives.
622
00:29:37,296 --> 00:29:40,238
Lloyd Kaufman, Charlie
Band, and Roger Corman,
623
00:29:40,262 --> 00:29:42,789
they were businessmen,
but they were filmmakers.
624
00:29:42,813 --> 00:29:45,720
Those core three are
definitely a huge, huge reason
625
00:29:45,744 --> 00:29:50,744
why the direct to video horror
was so impactful and huge.
626
00:29:51,848 --> 00:29:53,031
As the 80s started winding down,
627
00:29:53,055 --> 00:29:55,996
like every business,
it starts monopolizing.
628
00:29:56,020 --> 00:30:00,031
By the 90s, you had
Blockbuster reading scripts
629
00:30:00,055 --> 00:30:02,582
to give so much shelf space.
630
00:30:02,606 --> 00:30:04,444
Any time there's
a new technology,
631
00:30:04,468 --> 00:30:07,031
the majors, the
oligopoly, the cartel,
632
00:30:07,055 --> 00:30:10,203
throws a monkey wrench into
it, tries to screw it up,
633
00:30:10,227 --> 00:30:12,307
and then they take it over,
which is what happened
634
00:30:12,331 --> 00:30:15,789
with video cassette, Blockbuster
put all the independents
635
00:30:15,813 --> 00:30:17,307
out of business.
636
00:30:17,331 --> 00:30:19,341
โช Wow what a difference
637
00:30:19,365 --> 00:30:20,927
โช Blockbuster video
638
00:30:20,951 --> 00:30:23,444
I've never seen 10,000
tapes in one store.
639
00:30:23,468 --> 00:30:25,824
We can really, really
thank the mom and pop stores
640
00:30:25,848 --> 00:30:29,513
out there, because they
carried the really interesting
641
00:30:29,537 --> 00:30:31,824
innovative films that were
out there during the 80s,
642
00:30:31,848 --> 00:30:34,479
films that someone like
Blockbuster wouldn't touch
643
00:30:34,503 --> 00:30:35,962
with a 10 foot pole.
644
00:30:35,986 --> 00:30:38,203
And Blockbuster sure didn't
have that little room
645
00:30:38,227 --> 00:30:41,089
with the fancy
movies back there.
646
00:30:42,641 --> 00:30:44,789
Today you can go out and
make a movie for no money.
647
00:30:44,813 --> 00:30:47,755
I mean, the world has
changed dramatically.
648
00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:50,927
It's still in the story you
tell, if it's compelling,
649
00:30:50,951 --> 00:30:52,307
I mean, whatever the medium is,
650
00:30:52,331 --> 00:30:54,307
you need to be able
to tell a story,
651
00:30:54,331 --> 00:30:56,789
and put it together in
a format that people,
652
00:30:56,813 --> 00:30:59,341
whether they're gonna
rent or buy or download
653
00:30:59,365 --> 00:31:02,031
or view for free,
find entertaining.
654
00:31:02,055 --> 00:31:03,986
That part has not
changed at all.
655
00:31:20,296 --> 00:31:21,962
"Fear No Evil".
656
00:31:21,986 --> 00:31:24,686
It'll scare the
devil out of you.
657
00:31:24,710 --> 00:31:26,996
"Fear No Evil" is
thematically in the vein
658
00:31:27,020 --> 00:31:28,410
of a lot of these
films in the 1980s
659
00:31:28,434 --> 00:31:30,720
where it's like a guy
who gets picked on
660
00:31:30,744 --> 00:31:32,548
has been underestimated.
661
00:31:32,572 --> 00:31:33,893
Be careful who you pick on,
662
00:31:33,917 --> 00:31:35,951
because he might
be the Antichrist.
663
00:31:40,537 --> 00:31:43,686
"Fear No Evil" is
a hormonal overload.
664
00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:45,272
I mean, come on.
665
00:31:45,296 --> 00:31:46,651
High school's hard enough
without the inconvenience
666
00:31:46,675 --> 00:31:48,744
of demonic possession, right?
667
00:31:51,331 --> 00:31:52,927
"Fear No Evil" is like
if Damien from "The Omen"
668
00:31:52,951 --> 00:31:55,365
was in high school,
and was pretty gay.
669
00:31:58,227 --> 00:32:00,686
"Fear No Evil" was really
my coming of age story
670
00:32:00,710 --> 00:32:03,479
in a lot of ways, and
so all that angst,
671
00:32:03,503 --> 00:32:06,503
all of that confusion is
reflected in the film.
672
00:32:07,744 --> 00:32:09,169
There's this scene
in "Fear No Evil",
673
00:32:09,193 --> 00:32:12,100
it's a locker room scene, which
it's definitely the source
674
00:32:12,124 --> 00:32:13,962
of a lot of anxiety
for a lot of people.
675
00:32:13,986 --> 00:32:17,376
This scene is like,
ooh, very cringey.
676
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,341
Only the most
uncomfortable high school
677
00:32:19,365 --> 00:32:21,331
shower scene since "Carrie".
678
00:32:23,951 --> 00:32:24,789
Plug it up!
679
00:32:24,813 --> 00:32:25,813
Plug it up!
680
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,686
Tony goes in to kiss Andrew,
681
00:32:29,710 --> 00:32:32,893
and then Andrew uses
his special devil powers
682
00:32:33,017 --> 00:32:34,613
to make the kiss last longer.
683
00:32:34,637 --> 00:32:35,648
Like, that's his big revenge.
684
00:32:35,672 --> 00:32:37,500
It's like, make the bully gayer.
685
00:32:38,637 --> 00:32:41,407
It's Andrew who's
compelling this,
686
00:32:41,431 --> 00:32:44,948
but Tony's latent homosexuality,
687
00:32:46,672 --> 00:32:48,165
I mean, he hates women, right?
688
00:32:48,189 --> 00:32:49,889
This guy, this thug, Tony.
689
00:32:49,913 --> 00:32:51,476
He's a bully, you know?
690
00:32:51,500 --> 00:32:53,131
Lots of these
bullies are, right?
691
00:32:53,155 --> 00:32:55,234
They can't face
their own sexuality,
692
00:32:55,258 --> 00:32:57,613
and so they take it out
on others in this manner.
693
00:32:57,637 --> 00:33:00,682
Look, if you don't keep your
mouth shut about this, right?
694
00:33:00,706 --> 00:33:02,234
Guess where that was shot?
695
00:33:02,258 --> 00:33:04,165
At my old junior high school.
696
00:33:04,189 --> 00:33:06,165
First day of the
shoot, what I do.
697
00:33:06,189 --> 00:33:09,096
We go in there, we shoot
this, the shower scene.
698
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,924
Get in there with all these
naked guys in the shower,
699
00:33:11,948 --> 00:33:13,372
they're kissing.
700
00:33:13,396 --> 00:33:14,855
They didn't know anything
about it, of course,
701
00:33:14,879 --> 00:33:16,293
until the film was released.
702
00:33:17,431 --> 00:33:19,293
Come on, come on!
703
00:33:20,534 --> 00:33:22,096
I mean, it has a
nice Gothic feel.
704
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,534
I wanted it to have
a Hammer Horror feel.
705
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:31,200
The iconography.
706
00:33:31,224 --> 00:33:33,889
I mean it's so frightening.
707
00:33:33,913 --> 00:33:37,396
All the iconography
surrounding Catholicism.
708
00:33:41,293 --> 00:33:46,293
We raised, ultimately,
540,000 to make the picture.
709
00:33:47,465 --> 00:33:48,648
We had no money to
finish the film,
710
00:33:48,672 --> 00:33:51,544
and I was concerned
that if we got a bite
711
00:33:51,568 --> 00:33:54,751
from a distributor,
that that would be it.
712
00:33:54,775 --> 00:33:57,027
I'd lose control of the picture.
713
00:33:57,051 --> 00:33:58,165
Damn you!
714
00:33:58,189 --> 00:33:59,786
Avco Embassy.
715
00:33:59,810 --> 00:34:03,476
They were the boutique low
budget horror distribution house.
716
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:06,165
They had control, total
control, over the final cut,
717
00:34:06,189 --> 00:34:08,131
but they made me make the edits
718
00:34:08,155 --> 00:34:10,613
with an editor that was
assigned to the picture,
719
00:34:10,637 --> 00:34:12,855
and it was horrendous,
because little by little
720
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:16,155
I saw it restructured,
reorganized, chopped up.
721
00:34:17,568 --> 00:34:20,751
The picture that at best
works in fits and starts.
722
00:34:20,775 --> 00:34:23,303
But what really kills me
is I've read some things
723
00:34:23,327 --> 00:34:26,165
about it being
possibly homophobic.
724
00:34:26,189 --> 00:34:30,476
It's anything but
that, in my estimation.
725
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:32,913
I mean, it's a coming
of age story, right?
726
00:34:34,086 --> 00:34:36,096
The people that are
particularly inclined
727
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,234
to love "Fear No Evil" are gay.
728
00:34:38,258 --> 00:34:41,441
They consider it campy
enough to have fun with,
729
00:34:41,465 --> 00:34:45,579
or it genuinely moves
them as to their own
730
00:34:45,603 --> 00:34:47,672
coming out struggles.
731
00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:02,993
Unlike "Jaws", where
you're not safe in the water,
732
00:35:03,017 --> 00:35:06,155
this one, you're not safe
if you're on the beach.
733
00:35:12,017 --> 00:35:12,925
"Blood Beach".
734
00:35:12,949 --> 00:35:14,441
The tagline says it all.
735
00:35:14,465 --> 00:35:17,476
Just when you thought it was
safe to go back in the water,
736
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:18,993
you can't get to it.
737
00:35:19,017 --> 00:35:20,372
It's great to see John Saxon
738
00:35:20,396 --> 00:35:21,751
from "A Nightmare
on Elm Street",
739
00:35:21,775 --> 00:35:24,269
and Burt Young, who's
Paulie from "Rocky",
740
00:35:24,293 --> 00:35:25,717
trying to solve this mystery.
741
00:35:25,741 --> 00:35:27,544
He was foolish
enough to lie down
742
00:35:27,568 --> 00:35:29,441
on this particular beach.
743
00:35:29,465 --> 00:35:31,775
Never would've
happened in Chicago.
744
00:35:33,189 --> 00:35:34,441
Yeah, one more remark
like that out of your mouth,
745
00:35:34,465 --> 00:35:35,682
Chicago's where you're gonna be.
746
00:35:35,706 --> 00:35:38,131
It's a charming movie,
and it has a real moody,
747
00:35:38,155 --> 00:35:40,924
beachy feel, from
the opening credits
748
00:35:40,948 --> 00:35:45,258
with this lingering monster
POV vision under the pier.
749
00:35:46,706 --> 00:35:48,476
A $2 million union movie.
750
00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:50,579
Jeffrey Bloom wrote
and directed it.
751
00:35:50,603 --> 00:35:52,224
The coolest guy of all time.
752
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,476
The way our monster that
traveled through the sand,
753
00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:59,544
we did this movie 10
years before "Tremors".
754
00:35:59,568 --> 00:36:01,303
Please help!
755
00:36:01,327 --> 00:36:02,465
Oh god!
756
00:36:06,086 --> 00:36:06,890
Oh god!
757
00:36:06,914 --> 00:36:08,131
What is happening?
758
00:36:08,155 --> 00:36:09,097
Help!
759
00:36:09,121 --> 00:36:10,338
That's me, and the effects guy
760
00:36:10,362 --> 00:36:13,096
yanking those people
under the sand.
761
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,717
We got a tractor out
there on the beach
762
00:36:15,741 --> 00:36:17,993
by the Santa Monica Pier,
763
00:36:18,017 --> 00:36:20,751
and we dug a big pit,
and we built a big
764
00:36:20,775 --> 00:36:23,165
rubber membrane
with a slit in it,
765
00:36:23,189 --> 00:36:26,338
and he and I, down in the pit,
766
00:36:26,362 --> 00:36:29,855
and when they are acting,
and flailing around,
767
00:36:29,879 --> 00:36:31,924
they are kicking like crazy.
768
00:36:31,948 --> 00:36:34,096
And we are grabbing
onto them like crazy,
769
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,441
yanking them under.
770
00:36:37,465 --> 00:36:38,879
Ah, it was so much fun.
771
00:36:46,706 --> 00:36:48,751
The monster didn't
turn out that great.
772
00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:51,679
The effects guy, bless
his heart, did his best.
773
00:36:51,703 --> 00:36:54,058
I know the director
was not happy with it.
774
00:36:54,182 --> 00:36:57,227
But, you know, like not
showing the shark in "Jaws",
775
00:36:57,251 --> 00:36:59,424
it worked to an advantage.
776
00:37:02,044 --> 00:37:05,538
We built all these sets
onstage at Culver City Studios,
777
00:37:05,562 --> 00:37:08,710
where this monster lived, and
it was all supposed to look
778
00:37:08,734 --> 00:37:10,227
like Santa Monica
Pier, and whatnot,
779
00:37:10,251 --> 00:37:11,744
but I brought
seaweed in my trunk
780
00:37:11,768 --> 00:37:13,813
and threw the seaweed
behind the stage.
781
00:37:13,837 --> 00:37:15,631
Begins to take on the shape,
782
00:37:17,217 --> 00:37:18,676
where it slept.
783
00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:20,917
I think Smell-O-Vision is a
very important part of sets.
784
00:37:20,941 --> 00:37:23,055
You don't want it to
smell like latex paint.
785
00:37:23,079 --> 00:37:25,365
We want it to smell like
whatever it's supposed
786
00:37:25,389 --> 00:37:26,194
to smell like.
787
00:37:26,218 --> 00:37:27,493
It really helped.
788
00:37:28,734 --> 00:37:31,227
I ended up with the
monster on my ranch,
789
00:37:31,251 --> 00:37:34,020
where my nieces and nephews
played in it for years
790
00:37:34,044 --> 00:37:35,744
until it slowly withered away.
791
00:37:35,768 --> 00:37:38,227
I saved its head in
my monster collection.
792
00:37:38,251 --> 00:37:41,469
But that's the sorry end of
the "Blood Beach" monster.
793
00:37:41,493 --> 00:37:42,779
It's also one of
those lost movies.
794
00:37:42,803 --> 00:37:45,744
It came out on VHS,
and then that's it.
795
00:37:45,768 --> 00:37:48,710
It's legendary for
being caught in limbo,
796
00:37:48,734 --> 00:37:51,951
rights-wise, and
residual payment-wise.
797
00:37:51,975 --> 00:37:53,710
Jeffrey Bloom, the
director, told me,
798
00:37:53,734 --> 00:37:56,020
I don't think he's ever made
any money off the picture,
799
00:37:56,044 --> 00:37:58,055
and he wrote and directed it.
800
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,676
It's really a
mishmash of problems.
801
00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:02,089
I'd love to see that reissued,
802
00:38:02,113 --> 00:38:04,848
somehow, if somebody
could untangle the issues
803
00:38:04,872 --> 00:38:06,941
surrounding poor
old "Blood Beach".
804
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:17,883
Oh, "The Hand".
805
00:38:17,907 --> 00:38:19,079
Oh my god.
806
00:38:21,493 --> 00:38:25,676
Michael Caine in "The Hand".
807
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:27,158
It could have been so not good,
808
00:38:27,182 --> 00:38:30,296
because it's about an artist
whose hand gets cut off,
809
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,124
and the hand goes
around committing crimes
810
00:38:33,148 --> 00:38:37,469
that he's trying not to commit.
811
00:38:37,493 --> 00:38:39,389
The hand goes and does it.
812
00:38:45,596 --> 00:38:47,848
Oliver Stone, he had
gotten a lot of notice
813
00:38:47,872 --> 00:38:50,020
with "Midnight Express".
814
00:38:50,044 --> 00:38:55,044
And he thought "The Hand"
was gonna be a major movie.
815
00:38:57,906 --> 00:39:01,089
Made and released
by a major studio,
816
00:39:01,113 --> 00:39:03,813
but it had this really hopped up
817
00:39:03,837 --> 00:39:07,848
kind of exploitation tone to it
818
00:39:07,872 --> 00:39:10,538
that was very Corman.
819
00:39:10,562 --> 00:39:14,665
It just was really
intense and outrageous.
820
00:39:17,044 --> 00:39:20,055
I rented it as a kid
because I knew it dealt
821
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:25,079
with comic books, and
like a phantom appendage.
822
00:39:26,493 --> 00:39:29,193
So there's this guy on the
verge of a nervous breakdown,
823
00:39:29,217 --> 00:39:32,641
I guess, and he is
a comic book artist,
824
00:39:32,665 --> 00:39:35,779
like a famous, established
comic book artist.
825
00:39:35,803 --> 00:39:37,917
His marriage is on the rocks.
826
00:39:37,941 --> 00:39:39,538
There's this scene,
827
00:39:39,562 --> 00:39:41,676
as a kid, it was
really horrific.
828
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,572
It's Michael Caine, you know,
one of our greatest actors,
829
00:39:44,596 --> 00:39:46,493
squirting blood
all over the place.
830
00:39:50,355 --> 00:39:52,882
Anybody who messes
with Michael Caine
831
00:39:52,906 --> 00:39:53,941
gets the hand.
832
00:39:56,734 --> 00:39:58,710
Killing anybody that's
standing in the way
833
00:39:58,734 --> 00:39:59,734
of his mission.
834
00:40:00,700 --> 00:40:02,389
Or is it?
835
00:40:07,665 --> 00:40:10,262
He doesn't know if he's insane,
836
00:40:10,286 --> 00:40:13,527
or there really is a
disembodied hand chasing him.
837
00:40:14,734 --> 00:40:16,572
Michael Caine's
a terrific actor,
838
00:40:16,596 --> 00:40:19,744
but he went through a
period where he never saw
839
00:40:19,768 --> 00:40:21,562
a paycheck he didn't like.
840
00:40:22,975 --> 00:40:24,676
They call it the Michael
Caine School of Acting,
841
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:26,975
you know, when you
get a role, take it.
842
00:40:30,079 --> 00:40:33,503
Even if the material
isn't good, he delivered.
843
00:40:33,527 --> 00:40:35,217
I think that at least you-
844
00:40:38,044 --> 00:40:39,044
I think.
845
00:40:40,527 --> 00:40:41,744
You should get out of here.
846
00:40:41,768 --> 00:40:45,020
And it always elevated
every movie he was in.
847
00:40:45,044 --> 00:40:48,158
It's from a book called
"The Lizard's Tail".
848
00:40:48,182 --> 00:40:50,710
We struggled for
many, many months
849
00:40:50,734 --> 00:40:54,917
playing with that idea of
what is the sound of the hand?
850
00:40:54,941 --> 00:40:56,434
Does it breathe?
851
00:40:56,458 --> 00:40:59,331
Is it just fingernail
sounds when it's crawling?
852
00:40:59,355 --> 00:41:01,124
Because whenever
the hand approached,
853
00:41:01,148 --> 00:41:03,641
we wanted to get into
that sound design moment
854
00:41:03,665 --> 00:41:06,020
of the universe, the
sound universe changes.
855
00:41:06,044 --> 00:41:08,917
And we brought in a
team of trained actors
856
00:41:08,941 --> 00:41:11,641
who would do group
vocalizations,
857
00:41:11,665 --> 00:41:15,882
but we had them do what
we called Fellini-esque
858
00:41:15,906 --> 00:41:19,676
vocalizations, so we did
weird breathing patterns,
859
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:22,251
and free form screaming.
860
00:41:28,631 --> 00:41:30,803
It's really, really cool stuff.
861
00:41:35,182 --> 00:41:37,262
For a disembodied hand movie,
it's quite well-written.
862
00:41:37,286 --> 00:41:40,124
As I used to say in
marketing the movie,
863
00:41:40,148 --> 00:41:42,951
it's one of the best
disembodied hand movies ever.
864
00:41:42,975 --> 00:41:45,469
What happened to the hand?
865
00:41:45,493 --> 00:41:47,286
Oh, mommy went to look for it.
866
00:41:49,113 --> 00:41:50,113
But it ran away.
867
00:41:57,424 --> 00:41:59,055
"Bloody Birthday".
868
00:41:59,079 --> 00:42:01,572
A terrifying journey
into the bizarre.
869
00:42:01,596 --> 00:42:03,779
Will you get out alive?
870
00:42:03,803 --> 00:42:06,710
Three kids are born at
the same time in a hospital
871
00:42:06,734 --> 00:42:08,527
during an eclipse.
872
00:42:10,251 --> 00:42:11,848
It's
a boy, Mrs. Taylor!
873
00:42:11,872 --> 00:42:14,641
And for some reason,
this has astrologically
874
00:42:14,665 --> 00:42:16,158
made them evil.
875
00:42:16,182 --> 00:42:19,665
When they get to be 10, they
sort of go on killing spree.
876
00:42:25,941 --> 00:42:30,469
It plays on the fear
of how scary kids can be,
877
00:42:30,493 --> 00:42:33,124
especially if they
don't have the influence
878
00:42:33,148 --> 00:42:35,503
of discipline, and adults.
879
00:42:35,527 --> 00:42:38,262
Like that scene with the cake.
880
00:42:38,286 --> 00:42:39,710
That's terrifying.
881
00:42:39,734 --> 00:42:42,469
He's trying to make her think
882
00:42:42,493 --> 00:42:44,641
that he's poisoning the cake.
883
00:42:44,665 --> 00:42:46,837
The poison was just
sitting on the counter.
884
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:48,677
I was putting it away.
885
00:42:48,701 --> 00:42:49,951
You were not, you little liar!
886
00:42:49,975 --> 00:42:52,951
That scene is so messed up,
887
00:42:52,975 --> 00:42:55,986
because he knows what
he's doing as a child,
888
00:42:56,010 --> 00:42:59,917
and taking advantage of
his seemingly innocence
889
00:42:59,941 --> 00:43:01,665
for his own benefit.
890
00:43:05,734 --> 00:43:08,848
Debbie, she's a
horrible little child.
891
00:43:08,872 --> 00:43:10,089
I just love her as a villain.
892
00:43:10,113 --> 00:43:11,744
Can you and Timmy
come over to babysit?
893
00:43:11,868 --> 00:43:13,086
Sure.
894
00:43:13,110 --> 00:43:14,087
What time do you
want me to come over?
895
00:43:14,111 --> 00:43:15,569
11 o'clock.
896
00:43:15,593 --> 00:43:16,810
Okay.
897
00:43:16,834 --> 00:43:19,155
My little sister
is selling tickets
898
00:43:19,179 --> 00:43:23,500
to watch me, you
know, get naked.
899
00:43:23,524 --> 00:43:26,534
I was very young, it was
one of my first years
900
00:43:26,558 --> 00:43:27,948
as an actress.
901
00:43:27,972 --> 00:43:30,224
So many actresses, especially
at that time in the 80s,
902
00:43:30,248 --> 00:43:32,293
that they had some sort of film
903
00:43:32,317 --> 00:43:35,672
where they had to be naked or
topless or something, right?
904
00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:37,672
It wasn't that uncommon.
905
00:43:37,696 --> 00:43:39,741
So I thought, okay.
906
00:43:39,765 --> 00:43:44,189
I wasn't gonna, like, be
topless in the audition.
907
00:43:44,213 --> 00:43:47,189
So they said, well, we
need to see your boobs.
908
00:43:47,213 --> 00:43:48,534
And I'm like, why?
909
00:43:48,558 --> 00:43:49,466
And they go, because
what if you have
910
00:43:49,490 --> 00:43:50,500
a weird boob or something?
911
00:43:50,524 --> 00:43:51,948
So I took my top
off in the room,
912
00:43:51,972 --> 00:43:53,258
and I took a Polaroid.
913
00:43:53,282 --> 00:43:55,327
And then they let the
director look at it,
914
00:43:55,351 --> 00:43:56,731
and they gave it back to me.
915
00:43:58,420 --> 00:44:00,431
I don't know how
other girls are cast
916
00:44:00,455 --> 00:44:03,006
for topless things, but
that's what happened to me.
917
00:44:04,489 --> 00:44:07,776
And there's a little hole
between the closet and her room,
918
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,603
and I look in there, and
then they hit me in the eye
919
00:44:10,627 --> 00:44:12,972
with an arrow, and
that's how I die.
920
00:44:18,765 --> 00:44:20,707
They're dragging
my dead body around
921
00:44:20,731 --> 00:44:22,051
for a big portion of it.
922
00:44:22,075 --> 00:44:24,489
And that's depressing.
923
00:44:26,972 --> 00:44:28,293
And at first I
wouldn't talk about it,
924
00:44:28,317 --> 00:44:31,120
but then I thought,
really, who cares?
925
00:44:31,144 --> 00:44:32,638
Right?
926
00:44:32,662 --> 00:44:34,834
Even though honestly my
son doesn't know about it,
927
00:44:35,696 --> 00:44:36,639
and he's never seen it.
928
00:44:36,663 --> 00:44:38,293
So.
929
00:44:38,317 --> 00:44:39,500
Debbie?
930
00:44:39,524 --> 00:44:40,524
What's wrong, Debbie?
931
00:44:42,144 --> 00:44:44,741
"Bloody Birthday" wasn't
well-received at all
932
00:44:44,765 --> 00:44:47,431
when it came out,
because of the fact that
933
00:44:47,455 --> 00:44:48,948
these were evil kids.
934
00:44:48,972 --> 00:44:50,431
People would get so offended
935
00:44:50,455 --> 00:44:53,776
by all the sexual and violent
situations placed in it,
936
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,248
but the kids were actually
having a great time,
937
00:44:57,179 --> 00:44:58,087
and they thought
it was playtime,
938
00:44:58,111 --> 00:45:00,982
and that was comforting to know,
939
00:45:01,006 --> 00:45:02,948
because we wouldn't want
them to be traumatized
940
00:45:02,972 --> 00:45:04,293
at all by the experience.
941
00:45:04,317 --> 00:45:07,731
Does anybody know what
the word murder means?
942
00:45:15,627 --> 00:45:18,075
Pray you're not invited.
943
00:45:19,351 --> 00:45:22,569
If you get a great
image on the cover,
944
00:45:22,593 --> 00:45:23,776
that's half the battle.
945
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,224
And when you see that
guy with his mouth open,
946
00:45:25,248 --> 00:45:27,431
and the skewer, the
shish kabob is going in,
947
00:45:27,455 --> 00:45:28,913
like, I'm in.
948
00:45:28,937 --> 00:45:30,982
And Melissa Sue
Anderson, who is from
949
00:45:31,006 --> 00:45:32,420
Little House on the Prairie.
950
00:45:33,593 --> 00:45:37,465
This was gonna be her
big moment as an adult,
951
00:45:37,489 --> 00:45:41,282
playing a high school
girl in a slasher flick.
952
00:45:42,213 --> 00:45:43,810
This was more like the tail end
953
00:45:43,834 --> 00:45:46,155
of the holiday murder movies,
954
00:45:46,179 --> 00:45:48,120
so people were still
taking it seriously.
955
00:45:48,144 --> 00:45:50,455
They were like okay, we're
gonna ride this wave.
956
00:45:51,868 --> 00:45:53,534
This could be a massive hit,
957
00:45:53,558 --> 00:45:56,293
so let's really, really
go for it, you know?
958
00:45:56,317 --> 00:45:59,431
It's about this group of
kids at this elite school.
959
00:45:59,455 --> 00:46:01,396
The killer is one of
them, because every time
960
00:46:01,420 --> 00:46:03,776
someone gets killed,
it's like, oh it's you.
961
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,189
Virginia, who was kinda
new to this group,
962
00:46:06,213 --> 00:46:08,879
we slowly learn that
she has these holes
963
00:46:08,903 --> 00:46:09,811
in her memory.
964
00:46:09,835 --> 00:46:11,189
And today I remembered.
965
00:46:11,213 --> 00:46:12,431
Yes.
966
00:46:12,455 --> 00:46:15,051
And tomorrow, you
will remember more.
967
00:46:15,075 --> 00:46:15,880
Even the-
968
00:46:15,904 --> 00:46:17,086
Even the accident.
969
00:46:17,110 --> 00:46:18,741
Her friends are like,
they're disappearing
970
00:46:18,765 --> 00:46:20,386
more than dying.
971
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,810
So she has all this trauma
around her birthday,
972
00:46:23,834 --> 00:46:25,800
which should be a
moment of celebration.
973
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:28,603
Hi there.
974
00:46:28,627 --> 00:46:29,432
Rudy!
975
00:46:29,456 --> 00:46:30,638
Where have you been?
976
00:46:30,662 --> 00:46:32,672
Who's doing the killing?
977
00:46:32,696 --> 00:46:33,844
Is it her?
978
00:46:33,868 --> 00:46:35,213
Because she's messed up?
979
00:46:37,075 --> 00:46:37,949
Or is it not?
980
00:46:37,973 --> 00:46:39,465
Lighten up!
981
00:46:39,489 --> 00:46:41,120
You touch me again, I'm
gonna fucking kill you!
982
00:46:41,144 --> 00:46:42,879
And that's a very
real, tangible,
983
00:46:42,903 --> 00:46:47,903
real life fear, of having a
part of your whole memory gone.
984
00:46:49,282 --> 00:46:50,672
What happened
before the accident?
985
00:46:50,696 --> 00:46:53,258
You've got to try to remember.
986
00:46:53,282 --> 00:46:55,155
The kills are great.
987
00:46:55,179 --> 00:46:56,396
The gore is great.
988
00:46:56,420 --> 00:47:00,110
There's some very good
tense moments in it.
989
00:47:03,041 --> 00:47:04,672
One of the classic
kills from this movie.
990
00:47:04,696 --> 00:47:05,810
We have Greg.
991
00:47:05,834 --> 00:47:07,903
He's doing his weights,
he's very strong.
992
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,741
Okay, that's it.
993
00:47:10,765 --> 00:47:15,075
Holds the weight above
his penis, and drops it.
994
00:47:18,420 --> 00:47:19,328
Greg is dead.
995
00:47:19,352 --> 00:47:20,776
From a weight to the peen.
996
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,489
Yup.
997
00:47:23,868 --> 00:47:25,534
I panicked!
998
00:47:25,558 --> 00:47:27,913
I came here, god I
thought you'd help me!
999
00:47:27,937 --> 00:47:29,500
So the ending of
"Happy Birthday" to me
1000
00:47:29,524 --> 00:47:31,534
is what stuck with me
1001
00:47:31,658 --> 00:47:35,703
all my life, because it's crazy.
1002
00:47:35,727 --> 00:47:40,324
โช Happy birthday to me
1003
00:47:40,348 --> 00:47:44,003
โช Happy birthday to me
1004
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:51,979
Pray for day.
1005
00:47:52,003 --> 00:47:53,427
"Hell Night".
1006
00:47:53,451 --> 00:47:55,255
One of my favorite
things about "Hell Night'
1007
00:47:55,279 --> 00:47:57,669
is just being able
to see Linda Blair
1008
00:47:57,693 --> 00:47:58,703
do something different.
1009
00:47:58,727 --> 00:48:00,244
Who's she?
1010
00:48:01,658 --> 00:48:03,324
Oh, that's one
of the new pledges.
1011
00:48:03,348 --> 00:48:04,290
They call her Marty.
1012
00:48:04,314 --> 00:48:05,565
And it feels almost like,
1013
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:07,876
what if Regan survives
after "The Exorcist",
1014
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:09,727
and she decides
to go to college?
1015
00:48:11,106 --> 00:48:12,324
She's gonna go and
be in a sorority,
1016
00:48:12,348 --> 00:48:13,496
and she's gonna have
this normal life,
1017
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:14,772
and she ends up
stuck in this mansion
1018
00:48:14,796 --> 00:48:17,462
where it's like a
weird, mutant offspring.
1019
00:48:17,486 --> 00:48:20,427
It feels really unusual
compared to a lot
1020
00:48:20,451 --> 00:48:23,565
of the other sort of teen
and 20-something centric
1021
00:48:23,589 --> 00:48:27,358
horror movies that were
coming out in the early 1980s.
1022
00:48:27,382 --> 00:48:29,703
In 1850, Virgil Garth
built this mansion
1023
00:48:29,727 --> 00:48:31,634
with the gold that was
pouring out of his mines.
1024
00:48:31,658 --> 00:48:33,496
So they introduce
this whole backstory
1025
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,979
about Garth Manor, and this
guy who kills his family,
1026
00:48:36,003 --> 00:48:38,841
like he kills his wife,
and he has mutated kids.
1027
00:48:38,865 --> 00:48:41,048
And then Raymond
Garth got a rope
1028
00:48:41,072 --> 00:48:42,555
and hung himself to death.
1029
00:48:44,210 --> 00:48:45,772
And then he hangs himself,
1030
00:48:45,796 --> 00:48:47,979
but two of the kids are missing.
1031
00:48:48,003 --> 00:48:50,772
It was like okay, we're gonna
throw a couple sorority girls
1032
00:48:50,796 --> 00:48:53,151
and a couple fraternity
brothers in a house overnight
1033
00:48:53,175 --> 00:48:54,496
and see what happens.
1034
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:55,900
We'll see you four a dawn.
1035
00:48:58,865 --> 00:48:59,944
Just about six hours.
1036
00:48:59,968 --> 00:49:01,772
You have Peter
Barton and Linda Blair,
1037
00:49:01,796 --> 00:49:03,220
and they're sort of hanging out,
1038
00:49:03,244 --> 00:49:05,520
and then you've got
promiscuous gal,
1039
00:49:06,382 --> 00:49:07,634
and then the stoner surfer dude,
1040
00:49:07,658 --> 00:49:09,358
and they're gonna get
together and have fun.
1041
00:49:09,382 --> 00:49:10,738
Hey!
1042
00:49:10,762 --> 00:49:13,289
And then it evolves
into this whole
1043
00:49:13,313 --> 00:49:17,003
elaborate Gothic
nightmare for them.
1044
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,979
Peter Barton, he actually
did get hurt during the film,
1045
00:49:25,003 --> 00:49:26,703
so there's a lot of the
movie where you see him
1046
00:49:26,727 --> 00:49:28,255
limping around, but
that was very real.
1047
00:49:28,279 --> 00:49:31,486
That wasn't because of what
happened to his character.
1048
00:49:33,106 --> 00:49:34,049
No!
1049
00:49:34,073 --> 00:49:35,151
They couldn't stop filming,
1050
00:49:35,175 --> 00:49:36,634
so they just had
to push forward,
1051
00:49:36,658 --> 00:49:39,738
and he basically had to
work through an ankle injury
1052
00:49:39,762 --> 00:49:41,003
for like half the movie.
1053
00:49:42,244 --> 00:49:43,152
It's got some issues,
but I think ultimately,
1054
00:49:43,176 --> 00:49:44,531
"Hell Night" really stands out
1055
00:49:44,555 --> 00:49:47,220
in comparison to a lot
of other horror movies
1056
00:49:47,244 --> 00:49:49,900
that were coming out
around the same time.
1057
00:50:01,582 --> 00:50:03,765
A gem I discovered on
cable back in the 80s,
1058
00:50:03,789 --> 00:50:05,627
and that I push on
people as often as I can
1059
00:50:05,651 --> 00:50:07,110
is "The Unseen".
1060
00:50:07,134 --> 00:50:08,731
The terror is unleashed.
1061
00:50:08,755 --> 00:50:09,972
No!
1062
00:50:09,996 --> 00:50:12,076
The horror is unequal.
1063
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:13,869
"The Unseen".
1064
00:50:13,893 --> 00:50:16,972
"The Unseen" is about
an all-woman news crew
1065
00:50:16,996 --> 00:50:19,662
who are covering a festival
in Solvang California.
1066
00:50:19,686 --> 00:50:23,007
They screwed up, someone didn't
make a hotel reservation.
1067
00:50:23,031 --> 00:50:24,144
They have nowhere to stay.
1068
00:50:24,168 --> 00:50:26,213
They hit up this
museum where they find
1069
00:50:26,237 --> 00:50:30,110
the great Sydney Lassick, who
offers them a place to stay.
1070
00:50:30,134 --> 00:50:31,593
It's, it's not the Ritz,
1071
00:50:31,617 --> 00:50:34,179
but it'll run a close second.
1072
00:50:34,203 --> 00:50:35,042
Sure.
1073
00:50:35,066 --> 00:50:36,524
That's great.
1074
00:50:36,548 --> 00:50:37,490
The leader of this news
crew is Barbara Bach.
1075
00:50:37,514 --> 00:50:39,041
Of course, Mrs. Ringo Starr,
1076
00:50:39,065 --> 00:50:41,041
the Bond girl from
"The Spy Who Loved Me".
1077
00:50:41,065 --> 00:50:42,593
It's remarkable.
1078
00:50:42,617 --> 00:50:43,824
I'm impressed.
1079
00:50:44,651 --> 00:50:45,456
Scat.
1080
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,041
Get off there, Ralph.
1081
00:50:47,065 --> 00:50:48,420
Sydney Lassick is one of
the great character actors
1082
00:50:48,444 --> 00:50:50,076
of the second half
of the 20th century.
1083
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:52,213
He was in "One Flew
Over the Cuckoo's Nest".
1084
00:50:52,237 --> 00:50:55,351
He was in "Alligator"
as the pet store owner.
1085
00:50:55,375 --> 00:50:56,593
He is off the chain.
1086
00:50:56,617 --> 00:50:57,627
He is just going
for it in this film.
1087
00:50:57,651 --> 00:50:59,582
Boo!
1088
00:51:02,375 --> 00:51:05,248
It's a delight to watch
him just chew the scenery.
1089
00:51:05,272 --> 00:51:07,824
Don't concern yourself
with that, Virginia.
1090
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:10,765
Just get the room ready.
1091
00:51:10,789 --> 00:51:12,110
The secret sauce of "The Unseen"
1092
00:51:12,134 --> 00:51:13,869
is that it's very,
very talented people
1093
00:51:13,893 --> 00:51:15,686
doing something
very, very unsavory.
1094
00:51:17,513 --> 00:51:20,903
Sydney Lassick's wife in
the film, Leila Goldoni,
1095
00:51:20,927 --> 00:51:23,662
and he have a couple
of very intense scenes
1096
00:51:23,686 --> 00:51:26,858
about a secret that they
have in their basement.
1097
00:51:28,272 --> 00:51:29,627
They could find out.
1098
00:51:29,651 --> 00:51:30,996
Don't worry, my dear.
1099
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:33,824
No one will ever find out.
1100
00:51:35,203 --> 00:51:37,731
Junior in the film is this
developmentally disabled
1101
00:51:37,755 --> 00:51:40,869
grown man wearing a diaper
living in the basement.
1102
00:51:40,893 --> 00:51:42,686
I see you've met Junior.
1103
00:51:44,031 --> 00:51:46,972
Played by Flounder
from "Animal House",
1104
00:51:46,996 --> 00:51:47,835
the late great Stephen Furst.
1105
00:51:47,859 --> 00:51:49,076
And you come to find out
1106
00:51:49,100 --> 00:51:50,731
he's accidentally
killing these women
1107
00:51:50,755 --> 00:51:52,410
because he doesn't
know his own strength.
1108
00:51:56,651 --> 00:51:57,456
"The Unseen" is,
in a lot of ways,
1109
00:51:57,480 --> 00:51:58,903
not a defensible film.
1110
00:51:58,927 --> 00:52:00,765
Ingestion is not endorsement.
1111
00:52:00,789 --> 00:52:02,110
I enjoyed it despite
how wrong it is.
1112
00:52:02,134 --> 00:52:03,720
Boo!
1113
00:52:15,789 --> 00:52:18,076
"The Prowler" is a
stalk slasher plot
1114
00:52:18,100 --> 00:52:21,351
with a group of kids getting
ready for a graduation party
1115
00:52:21,375 --> 00:52:23,213
and they're stalked and killed
1116
00:52:23,237 --> 00:52:25,972
by a mysterious
killer in a GI outfit,
1117
00:52:25,996 --> 00:52:27,306
in Cape May, New Jersey.
1118
00:52:31,686 --> 00:52:33,524
There's a little
historical thrill
1119
00:52:33,548 --> 00:52:35,317
to seeing Farley
Granger from "Rope"
1120
00:52:35,341 --> 00:52:36,765
and "Strangers on a Train"
1121
00:52:36,789 --> 00:52:39,524
in an 80s slasher,
as like the sheriff
1122
00:52:39,548 --> 00:52:40,972
with a mysterious past.
1123
00:52:40,996 --> 00:52:42,593
Just some deodorant.
1124
00:52:42,617 --> 00:52:45,765
No sweat.
1125
00:52:45,789 --> 00:52:47,007
Get it?
1126
00:52:47,231 --> 00:52:49,413
That keeps you on
the edge of your seat.
1127
00:52:49,437 --> 00:52:52,000
You're just like, oh
god, he's right there.
1128
00:52:52,024 --> 00:52:53,920
Oh god, ugh, you know?
1129
00:52:57,437 --> 00:52:58,896
It's Savini at his best, man.
1130
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,817
The kills are fucking
crazy, the gore is nuts.
1131
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,817
Tom Savini did some of
his best work in the film.
1132
00:53:10,024 --> 00:53:11,344
That kill scene in
the swimming pool
1133
00:53:11,368 --> 00:53:13,276
goes on forever.
1134
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:16,162
It's unbearable to watch.
1135
00:53:22,713 --> 00:53:25,276
Also one of the first
exploding heads.
1136
00:53:25,300 --> 00:53:27,379
I don't think it was the
first exploding head,
1137
00:53:27,403 --> 00:53:29,265
but it was one of them.
1138
00:53:31,196 --> 00:53:35,689
It was the first pairing
of Savini and Zito,
1139
00:53:35,713 --> 00:53:38,679
who then went on to do
"Friday the 13th" part four.
1140
00:53:40,024 --> 00:53:42,069
Zito, man, say what you want,
1141
00:53:42,093 --> 00:53:43,610
but he had a great eye for it.
1142
00:53:49,989 --> 00:53:52,586
Putting aside George Romero's
relationship with Savini,
1143
00:53:52,610 --> 00:53:54,965
no director films
Tom Savini's kills
1144
00:53:54,989 --> 00:53:56,655
better than Jo Zito.
1145
00:53:56,679 --> 00:53:58,517
And I think that that
is front and center
1146
00:53:58,541 --> 00:53:59,758
of "The Prowler".
1147
00:53:59,782 --> 00:54:01,034
Not only how Savini
has designed them,
1148
00:54:01,058 --> 00:54:02,724
but that the director
has listened to Savini
1149
00:54:02,748 --> 00:54:05,127
in terms of how to
present those things.
1150
00:54:06,713 --> 00:54:08,517
There's something so
perverse about riffing
1151
00:54:08,541 --> 00:54:10,000
on the "Psycho" shower scene,
1152
00:54:10,024 --> 00:54:11,448
but with a pitchfork.
1153
00:54:11,472 --> 00:54:13,793
It's bright lights,
nowhere to hide,
1154
00:54:13,817 --> 00:54:15,886
just in your face kills.
1155
00:54:19,368 --> 00:54:21,827
I was just following
what they needed to happen
1156
00:54:21,851 --> 00:54:23,103
in the film.
1157
00:54:23,127 --> 00:54:27,000
I wasn't concerned with
how they were shooting.
1158
00:54:27,024 --> 00:54:29,172
Joe Zito, we showed everything.
1159
00:54:29,196 --> 00:54:31,506
So there became an
appeal for that.
1160
00:54:32,782 --> 00:54:36,748
I rode that appeal in
the movies of the 80s.
1161
00:54:39,817 --> 00:54:41,551
For me, it's the guy with
the hand over the mouth
1162
00:54:41,575 --> 00:54:43,472
and he's getting the
bayonet in the head.
1163
00:54:45,644 --> 00:54:47,896
The way it's edited,
and the way it's timed,
1164
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:49,276
and it's just
whites of the eyes.
1165
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:52,196
It's grizzly, and it
really, really works.
1166
00:54:54,955 --> 00:54:56,517
It's a magic trick, which
Savini's always said
1167
00:54:56,541 --> 00:54:57,758
his effects are magic tricks,
1168
00:54:57,782 --> 00:55:00,610
but that one is like, bang on.
1169
00:55:15,644 --> 00:55:18,448
Indonesia produced an
interesting horror film in the 80s
1170
00:55:18,472 --> 00:55:20,724
called "Mystics in Bali".
1171
00:55:20,748 --> 00:55:23,862
I'm surprised that
a pretty girl like you
1172
00:55:23,886 --> 00:55:26,034
would be interested in
learning black magic.
1173
00:55:26,058 --> 00:55:27,551
Well, I'm just curious.
1174
00:55:27,575 --> 00:55:29,413
It seems like a
bit of a fever dream,
1175
00:55:29,437 --> 00:55:30,655
what happens in this film.
1176
00:55:30,679 --> 00:55:33,379
But essentially,
it's about a woman
1177
00:55:33,403 --> 00:55:36,724
who wants to learn more
about the mystical stuff
1178
00:55:36,748 --> 00:55:38,276
that happens in
Indonesian culture.
1179
00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:40,575
You'll never forget this face.
1180
00:55:44,610 --> 00:55:46,586
And they're looking
around for this mystic,
1181
00:55:46,610 --> 00:55:49,758
and what they see instead
is a 50 foot tongue
1182
00:55:49,782 --> 00:55:52,172
coming out of the forest,
which is incredible.
1183
00:55:52,296 --> 00:55:53,824
It's like a snake-like tongue.
1184
00:55:53,848 --> 00:55:57,031
And what happens is this
tongue imprints words,
1185
00:55:57,055 --> 00:55:58,858
the name of the
creatures, on her thigh,
1186
00:55:58,882 --> 00:56:00,307
and then things go
from bad to worse
1187
00:56:00,331 --> 00:56:02,513
from that point, where
this woman manifests
1188
00:56:02,537 --> 00:56:06,296
into this creature, but
it's absolutely batshit.
1189
00:56:09,124 --> 00:56:11,444
I'm very interested in the
mythology of this creature,
1190
00:56:11,468 --> 00:56:13,100
which is very much
like a Manananggal,
1191
00:56:13,124 --> 00:56:17,376
because you see that across
all different Asian cultures.
1192
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:20,755
So she has the ability to
split her body in half,
1193
00:56:20,779 --> 00:56:22,789
and the top half of her torso,
1194
00:56:22,813 --> 00:56:25,100
with all the entrails
hanging out, can fly around,
1195
00:56:25,124 --> 00:56:27,686
and jump on people and
kill them and eat them
1196
00:56:27,710 --> 00:56:30,548
while the bottom half kind
of scuttles around the floor.
1197
00:56:30,572 --> 00:56:33,065
One of the most
interesting scenes in this,
1198
00:56:33,089 --> 00:56:37,134
and kind of gross, is when
this disembodied torso
1199
00:56:37,158 --> 00:56:40,065
goes between the legs
of a pregnant woman,
1200
00:56:40,089 --> 00:56:41,582
and then basically
eats her unborn baby.
1201
00:56:41,606 --> 00:56:43,503
It is nuts.
1202
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,100
Then it goes up a
level of nuttiness,
1203
00:56:50,124 --> 00:56:52,169
they call up the good
version of this mystic,
1204
00:56:52,193 --> 00:56:56,893
and they have this big battle
using magic and animation,
1205
00:56:56,917 --> 00:56:58,917
and it's very interesting.
1206
00:57:03,227 --> 00:57:05,513
The ultimate theme
of "Mystics in Bali"
1207
00:57:05,537 --> 00:57:07,203
really is curiosity
kills the cat,
1208
00:57:07,227 --> 00:57:09,444
because this woman wants
to know information
1209
00:57:09,468 --> 00:57:11,789
that she has no right knowing.
1210
00:57:11,813 --> 00:57:15,376
This supernatural stuff
is way too powerful
1211
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,617
for a normal person, and I
don't know why she thought
1212
00:57:17,641 --> 00:57:20,479
that she could control
it, and harness it.
1213
00:57:20,503 --> 00:57:22,376
That particular
transgression ends up
1214
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,479
in the consequences
that befalls them
1215
00:57:24,503 --> 00:57:26,158
and everyone around them.
1216
00:57:38,675 --> 00:57:40,031
Now police have been skeptical
1217
00:57:40,055 --> 00:57:41,789
of investigating these acts,
1218
00:57:41,813 --> 00:57:43,789
just as we are in
reporting them,
1219
00:57:43,813 --> 00:57:44,790
but there's no
question that something
1220
00:57:44,814 --> 00:57:46,513
is going on out there.
1221
00:57:46,537 --> 00:57:48,341
When we think about the 1980s,
1222
00:57:48,365 --> 00:57:50,376
we think about the Reagan era,
1223
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,065
and a return to family values,
1224
00:57:52,089 --> 00:57:53,927
and there is
something in the air
1225
00:57:53,951 --> 00:57:55,789
about the way that
things should be.
1226
00:57:55,813 --> 00:57:58,410
There is sin and
evil in the world,
1227
00:57:58,434 --> 00:58:00,962
and we're enjoined by
scripture, and the lord Jesus
1228
00:58:00,986 --> 00:58:02,893
to oppose it with all our might.
1229
00:58:02,917 --> 00:58:06,203
Religious right somehow had
moved into the mainstream.
1230
00:58:06,227 --> 00:58:08,755
Demand those parties
and politicians
1231
00:58:08,779 --> 00:58:12,065
align themselves with the
eternal values in this book,
1232
00:58:12,089 --> 00:58:14,238
and America will be forever
1233
00:58:14,262 --> 00:58:16,227
the greatest nation
on this earth!
1234
00:58:17,434 --> 00:58:19,169
There was a lot of
stuff in the ether
1235
00:58:19,193 --> 00:58:23,100
as far as satanic cults
and the evangelicals.
1236
00:58:23,124 --> 00:58:25,962
Whether Satan exists
is a matter of belief,
1237
00:58:25,986 --> 00:58:27,962
but we are certain
that Satanism exists.
1238
00:58:27,986 --> 00:58:31,548
Their fears were sort
of in the zeitgeist.
1239
00:58:31,572 --> 00:58:32,744
Could it be?
1240
00:58:33,710 --> 00:58:35,882
Satan!
1241
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,962
Growing up in the 80s under
the veil of the satanic panic,
1242
00:58:39,986 --> 00:58:42,203
you know, we were all
convinced by the far right
1243
00:58:42,227 --> 00:58:45,410
that there were these
cultists out there,
1244
00:58:45,434 --> 00:58:49,376
meddling with the dark arts
to try and abduct us kids
1245
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,272
and suck us into their
covens to drink babies' blood
1246
00:58:53,296 --> 00:58:55,572
and perform witchcraft.
1247
00:58:57,158 --> 00:58:59,444
We were like, no, they're
just cool scary movies.
1248
00:58:59,468 --> 00:59:00,962
I'll do that when I grow up
1249
00:59:00,986 --> 00:59:03,100
and I have a house of my
own, thank you very much.
1250
00:59:03,124 --> 00:59:05,100
I dread going to
these kinds of movies.
1251
00:59:05,124 --> 00:59:07,582
It really has become
the most depressing part
1252
00:59:07,606 --> 00:59:08,962
of my job as a film critic.
1253
00:59:08,986 --> 00:59:11,134
And there we are,
in total agreement.
1254
00:59:11,158 --> 00:59:12,479
In the UK and here in the US,
1255
00:59:12,503 --> 00:59:14,582
the census definitely
clamped down
1256
00:59:14,606 --> 00:59:17,134
on what was allowed, what
was acceptable content.
1257
00:59:17,158 --> 00:59:18,479
Half of American households
1258
00:59:18,503 --> 00:59:20,720
now have video
cassette recorders,
1259
00:59:20,744 --> 00:59:22,789
and for many children,
they're a ticket
1260
00:59:22,813 --> 00:59:25,203
to R-rated gore that
the kids are too young
1261
00:59:25,227 --> 00:59:26,651
to see at the movies.
1262
00:59:26,675 --> 00:59:29,100
There were a lot of
city people running around
1263
00:59:29,124 --> 00:59:31,927
saying oh, we can't
have this stuff.
1264
00:59:31,951 --> 00:59:33,272
It's much too violent.
1265
00:59:33,296 --> 00:59:35,169
Well parents and psychologists
are very concerned.
1266
00:59:35,193 --> 00:59:38,065
I have very vivid memories
of the Video Nasty Panic.
1267
00:59:38,089 --> 00:59:41,444
I was probably nine
or 10 years old
1268
00:59:41,468 --> 00:59:43,789
when it started to hit the news
1269
00:59:43,813 --> 00:59:47,513
that this filth was
entering our homes,
1270
00:59:47,537 --> 00:59:51,582
and a lot of moral
do-gooders and church people
1271
00:59:51,606 --> 00:59:55,203
and politicians started to
talk about these movies,
1272
00:59:55,227 --> 00:59:59,100
saying that they were
dangerous for society,
1273
00:59:59,124 --> 01:00:01,444
because anyone seeing
them, it could cause them
1274
01:00:01,468 --> 01:00:05,031
to be scarred, and to go out
and inflict harm on society.
1275
01:00:05,055 --> 01:00:07,927
Even today, if one is
inclined to believe in Satanism,
1276
01:00:07,951 --> 01:00:10,651
it's a way to actually
see the devil,
1277
01:00:10,675 --> 01:00:11,893
and perhaps be inspired.
1278
01:00:11,917 --> 01:00:13,651
I think people
were really afraid
1279
01:00:13,675 --> 01:00:15,238
because they were told to be.
1280
01:00:15,262 --> 01:00:18,169
That was the beginning
off the cult of fear
1281
01:00:18,193 --> 01:00:19,135
in this country.
1282
01:00:19,159 --> 01:00:20,744
I don't believe in censorship.
1283
01:00:21,951 --> 01:00:25,341
But I do believe that
we parents and leaders
1284
01:00:25,365 --> 01:00:27,065
have a reason to be concerned.
1285
01:00:27,089 --> 01:00:31,376
It was such a simple
use of religious moralism
1286
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,013
that they cracked
down on us in the 80s,
1287
01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:40,913
and in doing so,
really resurrected
1288
01:00:41,037 --> 01:00:44,910
a lot of these archaic ideas
about religious fundamentalism
1289
01:00:45,134 --> 01:00:48,076
that are so easy to
use when you're trying
1290
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:51,210
to manipulate large
masses of people.
1291
01:00:51,334 --> 01:00:54,448
Sure, television should
present life the way it is.
1292
01:00:54,472 --> 01:00:58,586
You can't tell somebody
else they can't like it,
1293
01:00:58,610 --> 01:01:00,207
because you don't like it.
1294
01:01:00,231 --> 01:01:02,931
That kind of psychology
is so unhealthy.
1295
01:01:02,955 --> 01:01:06,586
We needed the movies
of 80s horror cinema
1296
01:01:06,610 --> 01:01:11,172
to release a little
of that pent up steam.
1297
01:01:11,196 --> 01:01:12,827
And finally, music.
1298
01:01:12,851 --> 01:01:15,413
Which is found here in the
neighborhood record store
1299
01:01:15,437 --> 01:01:18,069
under the category
of heavy metal music.
1300
01:01:18,093 --> 01:01:21,276
There's a link between
heavy metal and horror.
1301
01:01:21,300 --> 01:01:22,413
They're like some
strange cousins.
1302
01:01:22,437 --> 01:01:23,758
They always have been.
1303
01:01:23,782 --> 01:01:27,172
โช We're the dream warriors
1304
01:01:27,196 --> 01:01:28,965
In the "Nightmare
on Elm Street" films,
1305
01:01:28,989 --> 01:01:31,541
the Dokken soundtrack
is a classic.
1306
01:01:32,403 --> 01:01:34,413
The satanic message is clear,
1307
01:01:34,437 --> 01:01:36,793
both in the album covers,
and in the lyrics,
1308
01:01:36,817 --> 01:01:39,965
which are reaching
impressionable young minds.
1309
01:01:39,989 --> 01:01:41,448
It's question of
content and values,
1310
01:01:41,472 --> 01:01:44,655
and parents need to tune in
to their children's world.
1311
01:01:44,679 --> 01:01:47,551
Anytime there's any kind
of a new wave of music,
1312
01:01:47,575 --> 01:01:50,413
there's always somebody who's
gonna have a problem with it.
1313
01:01:50,437 --> 01:01:53,276
And the fact that
you had Ozzy Osborne
1314
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:56,793
supposedly biting off the heads
of bats onstage and stuff,
1315
01:01:56,817 --> 01:01:59,965
that certainly threw people
for a loop.
1316
01:01:59,989 --> 01:02:01,482
This is entertainment?
1317
01:02:01,506 --> 01:02:04,000
This is what our kids are
looking at for entertainment?
1318
01:02:04,024 --> 01:02:05,241
Yes.
1319
01:02:05,265 --> 01:02:06,793
So in the height
of "Satanic Panic"
1320
01:02:06,817 --> 01:02:09,689
as the most metal and
punk rock thing to do
1321
01:02:09,713 --> 01:02:12,000
from the film community,
is they did films
1322
01:02:12,024 --> 01:02:14,655
about rock and roll and Satan.
1323
01:02:14,679 --> 01:02:17,931
The times that
we were living in,
1324
01:02:17,955 --> 01:02:21,793
it was a perfect tapestry
for us to utilize
1325
01:02:21,817 --> 01:02:26,482
what was going on in the
world as far as politics
1326
01:02:26,506 --> 01:02:28,138
and us making movies.
1327
01:02:28,162 --> 01:02:30,276
โช Get down tonight
1328
01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:32,069
I was in school in the 80s,
1329
01:02:32,093 --> 01:02:35,551
and there was a concern
among the whole caucus
1330
01:02:35,575 --> 01:02:38,793
of evangelicals that
Dungeons and Dragons
1331
01:02:38,817 --> 01:02:41,069
was a satanic sort of thing.
1332
01:02:41,093 --> 01:02:44,437
A lot of people hear
the phrase my sweet Satan.
1333
01:02:47,575 --> 01:02:50,069
โช My sweet Satan
1334
01:02:50,093 --> 01:02:51,448
My sweet Satan.
1335
01:02:51,472 --> 01:02:52,689
The lyrics playing
backwards and all that stuff.
1336
01:02:52,713 --> 01:02:55,207
It was kind of a hysteria,
1337
01:02:55,231 --> 01:02:59,276
which doesn't feel all
that unfamiliar anymore.
1338
01:02:59,300 --> 01:03:01,379
It tells you how
to close the gate.
1339
01:03:01,403 --> 01:03:04,413
Parents just didn't know
it was the record companies
1340
01:03:04,437 --> 01:03:08,586
that were telling them that
if you spin records backwards,
1341
01:03:08,610 --> 01:03:10,127
you'll hear Satan.
1342
01:03:13,748 --> 01:03:18,551
Literally one of the best
ideas for record companies
1343
01:03:18,575 --> 01:03:21,379
to come up with in
the history of music
1344
01:03:21,403 --> 01:03:23,827
was getting stupid
people to believe that.
1345
01:03:23,851 --> 01:03:26,403
But they did conjure
up Sammi Curr.
1346
01:03:29,093 --> 01:03:31,517
All a part of the plan.
1347
01:03:31,541 --> 01:03:32,758
All right.
1348
01:03:32,782 --> 01:03:35,207
In the 80s, we had
a big controversy
1349
01:03:35,231 --> 01:03:38,482
with the lyrics, and
parents being very concerned
1350
01:03:38,506 --> 01:03:40,276
about what their kids
were listening to
1351
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:43,276
in heavy metal with
the pentagrams.
1352
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:45,793
There were Senate hearings,
and Congressional hearings,
1353
01:03:45,817 --> 01:03:47,827
that kind of thing,
and a lot of the wives
1354
01:03:47,851 --> 01:03:50,069
of the politicians
took up this cause
1355
01:03:50,093 --> 01:03:52,655
against heavy metal music.
1356
01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:54,724
โช Rock and roll
1357
01:03:54,748 --> 01:03:56,207
โช Rocking
1358
01:03:56,231 --> 01:03:58,758
"Trick or Treat", there's
a scene where Sammi Curr
1359
01:03:58,782 --> 01:04:02,758
is testifying against what's
supposed to be the PMRC.
1360
01:04:02,782 --> 01:04:04,448
If you were a parent,
1361
01:04:04,472 --> 01:04:07,379
would you want your kid
growing up around rock music?
1362
01:04:07,403 --> 01:04:08,620
Rock musicians?
1363
01:04:08,644 --> 01:04:09,862
I mean, with that
kind of values?
1364
01:04:09,886 --> 01:04:10,828
And he basically tells
him to go get fucked.
1365
01:04:10,852 --> 01:04:12,689
You cannot legislate morality.
1366
01:04:12,713 --> 01:04:14,896
- The teenage daughter-
- We will bring you down!
1367
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,793
And that's the way
I was with my heroes.
1368
01:04:17,817 --> 01:04:20,620
That's the way my
fans are with me
1369
01:04:20,644 --> 01:04:22,276
when I'm telling
the establishment
1370
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:24,058
to go fuck themselves, you know?
1371
01:04:25,231 --> 01:04:28,034
There will always be
a need for a platform
1372
01:04:28,058 --> 01:04:31,231
to give people hope in
a sea of hopelessness.
1373
01:04:32,162 --> 01:04:35,138
I carried an M16 and you,
1374
01:04:35,162 --> 01:04:39,344
you carry that,
that, that guitar!
1375
01:04:39,368 --> 01:04:41,551
What they came up with
was a warning system
1376
01:04:41,575 --> 01:04:42,827
on the albums.
1377
01:04:42,851 --> 01:04:44,862
They wanted to rate
them, like rated R,
1378
01:04:44,886 --> 01:04:46,103
and things like that,
but they ended up
1379
01:04:46,127 --> 01:04:48,276
with just sort of
a warning label.
1380
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:49,793
But the album sold
better when they had
1381
01:04:49,817 --> 01:04:51,058
the warning label on them.
1382
01:04:56,127 --> 01:04:57,448
โช We're not gonna take it
1383
01:04:57,472 --> 01:05:00,276
To me, horror and the
discovery of horror,
1384
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:04,207
you start finding these voices
outside of the mainstream,
1385
01:05:04,231 --> 01:05:08,517
who are willing to push
a lot of boundaries
1386
01:05:08,541 --> 01:05:12,207
and question a lot
of the establishment,
1387
01:05:12,231 --> 01:05:15,655
and scaring the crack
out of all the PTA moms
1388
01:05:15,679 --> 01:05:18,862
and school superintendents
and Cub Scout leaders
1389
01:05:18,886 --> 01:05:20,758
that were trying to
make sure we all fit
1390
01:05:20,782 --> 01:05:23,172
right into the mold
that they wanted us to.
1391
01:05:23,196 --> 01:05:24,196
God!
1392
01:05:25,403 --> 01:05:26,517
God is dead!
1393
01:05:26,541 --> 01:05:27,621
- Hail Satan!
- Satan lives!
1394
01:05:28,851 --> 01:05:31,138
It's an ever-perpetual cycle
1395
01:05:31,162 --> 01:05:35,103
that the entire human experience
centers itself around,
1396
01:05:35,127 --> 01:05:36,965
that events are out of control.
1397
01:05:36,989 --> 01:05:40,482
There has to be something
that can set it right.
1398
01:05:40,506 --> 01:05:43,896
And there are many people
who will seize on anything.
1399
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,689
They want a solution.
1400
01:05:45,713 --> 01:05:47,241
They want deliverance.
1401
01:05:47,265 --> 01:05:48,724
We fall for everything.
1402
01:05:48,748 --> 01:05:53,448
I recall that being the most
ridiculous waste of time.
1403
01:05:53,472 --> 01:05:55,896
It's been heading in that
direction for a long time.
1404
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,793
Now we're totally
divided as a country.
1405
01:05:58,817 --> 01:06:01,127
And it's crap like
that that does it.
1406
01:06:14,541 --> 01:06:16,655
"Butcher,
Baker, Nightmare Maker".
1407
01:06:16,679 --> 01:06:17,931
Rated R.
1408
01:06:17,955 --> 01:06:20,207
Starts Friday at a
theater near you.
1409
01:06:20,231 --> 01:06:22,448
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker".
1410
01:06:22,472 --> 01:06:24,482
I mean, that's an
incredible title.
1411
01:06:24,506 --> 01:06:26,851
That movie should
have done really well.
1412
01:06:28,679 --> 01:06:30,344
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"
1413
01:06:30,368 --> 01:06:33,196
is another of the Video Nasties.
1414
01:06:38,886 --> 01:06:41,276
So this is the cover
that I saw on the shelf
1415
01:06:41,300 --> 01:06:43,758
when I saw it in around 1983.
1416
01:06:43,782 --> 01:06:47,276
And it is Susan Tyrrell
covered in blood.
1417
01:06:47,300 --> 01:06:49,103
The kind of thing that
I would have rented.
1418
01:06:49,127 --> 01:06:51,241
I'm gonna get that
scholarship if I can!
1419
01:06:51,265 --> 01:06:53,517
I'm going away to school,
and no one's gonna stop me!
1420
01:06:53,541 --> 01:06:55,000
Not even you!
1421
01:06:55,024 --> 01:06:57,276
"Butcher, Baker, Nightmare
Maker" is about a kid
1422
01:06:57,300 --> 01:06:59,241
who wants to go off to
college, and an aunt
1423
01:06:59,265 --> 01:07:00,276
who doesn't want him to.
1424
01:07:00,300 --> 01:07:02,896
And the murder that she goes to
1425
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,162
to keep him there.
1426
01:07:06,851 --> 01:07:08,586
Everybody's so obsessed
with the sex life
1427
01:07:08,610 --> 01:07:10,241
of a 17-year-old.
1428
01:07:10,265 --> 01:07:11,517
I was thinking, um,
1429
01:07:11,541 --> 01:07:14,620
can I invite Julia over
for my birthday dinner?
1430
01:07:14,644 --> 01:07:16,241
Julia again?
1431
01:07:16,265 --> 01:07:17,689
Sounds serious.
1432
01:07:17,713 --> 01:07:20,379
That's probably the most
real life part of this movie,
1433
01:07:20,403 --> 01:07:22,551
is everybody trying to
figure out if this kid's gay.
1434
01:07:22,575 --> 01:07:24,758
Do you like
girls, Ms. Roberts?
1435
01:07:24,782 --> 01:07:26,000
God, you're a pig.
1436
01:07:26,024 --> 01:07:27,241
"Butcher, Baker,
Nightmare Maker"
1437
01:07:27,265 --> 01:07:30,448
is about people
trying to out you.
1438
01:07:30,472 --> 01:07:31,482
So tell me.
1439
01:07:31,506 --> 01:07:32,620
Are you two making love?
1440
01:07:32,644 --> 01:07:34,896
I am not going to answer that.
1441
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,827
The kind of twisted
perversity of the movie
1442
01:07:37,851 --> 01:07:40,403
is like really
interesting, I think.
1443
01:07:41,610 --> 01:07:44,920
It's cheesy, but
it's also queasy.
1444
01:07:46,334 --> 01:07:48,827
You're just kinda like,
is she trying to fuck him?
1445
01:07:48,851 --> 01:07:50,586
This is making me uncomfortable.
1446
01:07:50,610 --> 01:07:51,610
Ooh.
1447
01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:54,724
You're so cute.
1448
01:07:54,748 --> 01:07:56,413
It dealt with incest.
1449
01:07:56,437 --> 01:07:59,551
It dealt with
repressed sexuality.
1450
01:07:59,575 --> 01:08:01,379
Homicidal tendencies.
1451
01:08:01,403 --> 01:08:03,931
I mean, this is like
Tennessee Williams pathos
1452
01:08:03,955 --> 01:08:06,413
that we're dealing with in
this really messed up film
1453
01:08:06,437 --> 01:08:07,724
where these people gave these
1454
01:08:07,748 --> 01:08:10,472
really disturbing performances.
1455
01:08:18,196 --> 01:08:20,241
Will Asher seemed like
an odd choice to me,
1456
01:08:20,265 --> 01:08:23,344
having come from being
creator of Bewitched,
1457
01:08:23,368 --> 01:08:25,896
and having directed I Love Lucy,
1458
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:28,034
but he had a way with actors,
1459
01:08:28,058 --> 01:08:30,862
and he really brought in
some great performances
1460
01:08:30,886 --> 01:08:31,886
in that film.
1461
01:08:33,127 --> 01:08:34,920
โช Billy's got a
girlfriend, Billy โช
1462
01:08:35,748 --> 01:08:36,551
Billy, don't do that.
1463
01:08:36,575 --> 01:08:37,482
That's disgusting.
1464
01:08:37,506 --> 01:08:38,449
It's kind of a tour de force
1465
01:08:38,473 --> 01:08:40,276
mad over the top performance
1466
01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:41,448
by Susan Tyrrell.
1467
01:08:41,472 --> 01:08:42,379
The only thing that's wrong
1468
01:08:42,403 --> 01:08:43,277
is that you are in my house.
1469
01:08:43,301 --> 01:08:45,207
Now get out of here!
1470
01:08:45,231 --> 01:08:46,172
Get out!
1471
01:08:46,196 --> 01:08:47,000
I just-
1472
01:08:47,024 --> 01:08:47,828
Get out of here!
1473
01:08:47,852 --> 01:08:49,517
I just want-
1474
01:08:49,541 --> 01:08:51,069
Where is her Oscar for "Butcher,
Baker, Nightmare Maker"?
1475
01:08:51,093 --> 01:08:52,886
Retroactively give it to her.
1476
01:08:56,782 --> 01:08:58,172
What do you think you're doing?
1477
01:08:58,196 --> 01:09:00,276
This performance is
like the performance
1478
01:09:00,300 --> 01:09:02,241
of the 1980s.
1479
01:09:02,265 --> 01:09:03,713
A new girlfriend.
1480
01:09:05,713 --> 01:09:08,827
Susan Tyrrell is just
getting more and more crazy
1481
01:09:08,851 --> 01:09:10,241
as the movie goes on.
1482
01:09:10,265 --> 01:09:11,896
Just a pleasure to watch.
1483
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,931
It also has Bill Paxton
in it, by the way,
1484
01:09:13,955 --> 01:09:16,276
who's kind of playing
a bully character,
1485
01:09:16,300 --> 01:09:17,827
very similar to the
character he plays
1486
01:09:17,851 --> 01:09:19,379
in "Weird Science".
1487
01:09:19,403 --> 01:09:20,965
He was supposed to be
the lead originally
1488
01:09:20,989 --> 01:09:22,413
but they ended up
going with someone
1489
01:09:22,437 --> 01:09:24,034
who was then more famous.
1490
01:09:24,058 --> 01:09:25,965
Some of us think we're
better than others.
1491
01:09:25,989 --> 01:09:27,793
Some of us are
better than others.
1492
01:09:27,817 --> 01:09:31,586
Paxton was so gung ho at
the beginning of his career
1493
01:09:31,610 --> 01:09:34,586
that he would come
to the cutting room.
1494
01:09:34,610 --> 01:09:37,482
He was the guy who
really wanted to learn
1495
01:09:37,506 --> 01:09:39,827
about the whole
movie making process,
1496
01:09:39,851 --> 01:09:41,689
and he went on to have
such a great career,
1497
01:09:41,713 --> 01:09:44,620
and was gone way too soon.
1498
01:09:44,644 --> 01:09:49,069
I believe that
you and Phil Brody
1499
01:09:49,093 --> 01:09:51,344
were having a lovers quarrel.
1500
01:09:51,368 --> 01:09:54,034
It has these queer themes,
it plays on gay panic,
1501
01:09:54,058 --> 01:09:55,931
but in 1983 when
it's re-released
1502
01:09:55,955 --> 01:09:58,862
as Night Warning, it's
released into a world
1503
01:09:58,886 --> 01:10:01,724
that sees gay characters
a little bit differently.
1504
01:10:01,748 --> 01:10:04,793
Keep it limp like
1505
01:10:04,817 --> 01:10:06,482
AIDS, by 1983,
1506
01:10:06,506 --> 01:10:09,896
it was referred to as Gay
Plague, and Gay Cancer.
1507
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:11,724
And that's what people
were afraid of at the time.
1508
01:10:11,748 --> 01:10:13,724
Do you know that homosexuals
1509
01:10:13,748 --> 01:10:15,758
are very, very sick?
1510
01:10:15,782 --> 01:10:17,138
Do you know that, Billy?
1511
01:10:17,162 --> 01:10:18,827
Coach Flanders is not sick!
1512
01:10:18,851 --> 01:10:20,276
I don't know if I'll
ever watch it again
1513
01:10:20,300 --> 01:10:22,793
for the rest of my life,
but I'm glad I saw it
1514
01:10:22,817 --> 01:10:23,851
when I was a kid.
1515
01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:27,103
Probably made me into the
weirdo that I am today.
1516
01:10:27,127 --> 01:10:28,127
I don't know.
1517
01:10:35,506 --> 01:10:36,793
"Parasite".
1518
01:10:36,817 --> 01:10:39,862
The first futuristic
monster movie in 3D.
1519
01:10:39,886 --> 01:10:44,851
"Parasite 3D" was
a Charlie Band movie.
1520
01:10:52,886 --> 01:10:55,758
And Stan Winston created
the Parasite effects for us.
1521
01:10:55,782 --> 01:10:56,851
Low budget.
1522
01:11:02,851 --> 01:11:04,069
We gotta do something.
1523
01:11:04,093 --> 01:11:06,782
Notable for Demi Moore
making her film debut.
1524
01:11:07,610 --> 01:11:08,713
Tell me where it is!
1525
01:11:09,748 --> 01:11:11,793
Go to hell!
1526
01:11:11,817 --> 01:11:16,758
It was set in a
post nuclear world,
1527
01:11:16,882 --> 01:11:21,582
and there's this character
who develops this parasite.
1528
01:11:21,806 --> 01:11:25,438
When it reproduces,
it will cast millions
1529
01:11:25,462 --> 01:11:28,334
of microscopic
spores into the air.
1530
01:11:28,458 --> 01:11:30,434
It grows over the
course of the film,
1531
01:11:30,458 --> 01:11:31,917
and it gets into people,
1532
01:11:32,041 --> 01:11:34,500
and absorbs them from within,
1533
01:11:34,524 --> 01:11:36,120
and eventually it
turns into this
1534
01:11:36,244 --> 01:11:38,313
big toothy creature.
1535
01:11:44,141 --> 01:11:46,876
Stan Winston, Stan
did my very first movie
1536
01:11:46,900 --> 01:11:48,944
in the early 70s called
"Mansion of the Doom",
1537
01:11:48,968 --> 01:11:50,807
and later on did "Parasite".
1538
01:11:50,831 --> 01:11:52,565
And Stan became
super successful,
1539
01:11:52,589 --> 01:11:54,876
and I couldn't afford him,
even though we stayed close
1540
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:57,968
til almost the end of his
life, which was way too soon.
1541
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,255
"Parasite" was one of the
first 3D movies in 20 years.
1542
01:12:02,279 --> 01:12:05,565
It did really well,
relative to a small movie.
1543
01:12:05,589 --> 01:12:08,186
I was hooked with
the gimmickry of 3D.
1544
01:12:08,210 --> 01:12:09,876
Why was that cool for a while?
1545
01:12:09,900 --> 01:12:11,600
Well, 'cause it was
another dimension,
1546
01:12:11,624 --> 01:12:13,393
and it was something you
couldn't really see at home.
1547
01:12:13,417 --> 01:12:15,979
Unless there's trickery or
stuff that comes at you,
1548
01:12:16,003 --> 01:12:18,565
and you're having fun
with the three dimensions,
1549
01:12:18,589 --> 01:12:19,934
to me it's not worth it.
1550
01:12:23,072 --> 01:12:25,496
I remember it being
pretty schlocky,
1551
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,772
but the parasite effects
were pretty cool,
1552
01:12:27,796 --> 01:12:29,658
and the 3D was pretty cool.
1553
01:12:36,900 --> 01:12:40,186
In terms of pantheon of
Stan Winston projects,
1554
01:12:40,210 --> 01:12:44,589
it's not the one he's
most proud of.
1555
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:52,979
"Madman".
1556
01:12:53,003 --> 01:12:54,313
There is no escape.
1557
01:12:57,796 --> 01:13:00,082
I really love "Madman".
1558
01:13:00,106 --> 01:13:02,738
He was a farmer
with this family,
1559
01:13:02,762 --> 01:13:04,324
wife and two children.
1560
01:13:04,348 --> 01:13:05,979
He was an evil man.
1561
01:13:06,003 --> 01:13:08,772
I have a "Madman"
poster on my wall.
1562
01:13:08,796 --> 01:13:10,393
He walked into his bedroom
1563
01:13:10,417 --> 01:13:14,358
with an ax in his hand and
chopped his sleeping wife.
1564
01:13:14,382 --> 01:13:16,151
It was kind of a
"Sleepaway Camp" movie,
1565
01:13:16,175 --> 01:13:18,979
that I think fell under
the radar a little bit.
1566
01:13:19,003 --> 01:13:21,944
His name is Mars.
1567
01:13:21,968 --> 01:13:22,968
Madman Mars.
1568
01:13:25,037 --> 01:13:27,565
Oh no, Madman Mars
is coming upon us
1569
01:13:27,589 --> 01:13:29,841
at the campsite, but
it was just like,
1570
01:13:29,865 --> 01:13:32,772
you loved it for the
feel, the energy,
1571
01:13:32,796 --> 01:13:34,220
the New York vibe.
1572
01:13:34,244 --> 01:13:35,152
You know, Betsy.
1573
01:13:35,176 --> 01:13:37,186
I don't have many women friends,
1574
01:13:37,210 --> 01:13:39,462
and I think you're one of them.
1575
01:13:39,486 --> 01:13:40,703
Oh, I am.
1576
01:13:40,727 --> 01:13:42,324
Hey, give me your
number in the city.
1577
01:13:42,348 --> 01:13:44,324
It's like, they're in the woods!
1578
01:13:44,348 --> 01:13:45,703
They're gonna get killed!
1579
01:13:45,727 --> 01:13:48,324
You just love that
the Madman was coming,
1580
01:13:48,348 --> 01:13:50,900
and you didn't know
who he was gonna kill.
1581
01:13:55,658 --> 01:13:57,738
We used to watch
it all the time.
1582
01:13:57,762 --> 01:13:59,220
My friends would laugh.
1583
01:13:59,244 --> 01:14:00,910
Most of them were
giggling, like ooh!
1584
01:14:00,934 --> 01:14:01,739
You know.
1585
01:14:01,763 --> 01:14:03,175
I couldn't even eat.
1586
01:14:04,106 --> 01:14:05,565
And the blood, and the effects.
1587
01:14:05,589 --> 01:14:08,727
It just all looked so
real to me, and scared me.
1588
01:14:12,865 --> 01:14:16,910
"Madman" always looked like
a big furry suit to me.
1589
01:14:16,934 --> 01:14:20,220
He was in a shadow, but
he looked kind of furry.
1590
01:14:20,244 --> 01:14:22,106
And I was like oh,
he's kinda cute.
1591
01:14:25,900 --> 01:14:27,462
I'm friends with Gary Sales.
1592
01:14:27,486 --> 01:14:29,979
He was really taken by surprise
1593
01:14:30,003 --> 01:14:31,555
with the success of the film.
1594
01:14:32,934 --> 01:14:33,911
With a lot of the 80s films,
1595
01:14:33,935 --> 01:14:37,186
there were no real boundaries.
1596
01:14:37,210 --> 01:14:40,279
They were just done, like
let's push the envelope.
1597
01:14:44,727 --> 01:14:47,876
Let's have fun, not to
intentionally hurt anyone,
1598
01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:49,979
but just because
we're batshit crazy,
1599
01:14:50,003 --> 01:14:51,496
and we're making a horror movie,
1600
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,013
and I think movies like
"Madman" just went for it.
1601
01:14:54,037 --> 01:14:56,013
They were like,
let's just kind of,
1602
01:14:56,037 --> 01:14:57,496
you know, get a monster.
1603
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,703
Have him running around
killing people, and woo-hoo!
1604
01:14:59,727 --> 01:15:03,900
And it's just simple,
but so fantastic.
1605
01:15:05,313 --> 01:15:08,106
It's like silly and
great, all tied into one.
1606
01:15:19,900 --> 01:15:21,496
Fans of Gothic horror
1607
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:23,693
will not be disappointed.
1608
01:15:26,727 --> 01:15:29,738
Jackie Karen inherits
this rural estate,
1609
01:15:29,762 --> 01:15:31,289
and on the rural estate
is a retirement home
1610
01:15:31,313 --> 01:15:33,600
full of elderly patients,
1611
01:15:33,624 --> 01:15:35,831
and there are mysterious
deaths happening.
1612
01:15:38,313 --> 01:15:39,807
Bit of a murder
mystery, because someone
1613
01:15:39,831 --> 01:15:40,704
is committing these crimes,
1614
01:15:40,728 --> 01:15:41,910
and you're not sure who
1615
01:15:41,934 --> 01:15:44,003
among these cast of
characters it is.
1616
01:15:46,106 --> 01:15:47,289
Are there ghosts?
1617
01:15:47,313 --> 01:15:49,255
Are there supernatural
elements at play?
1618
01:15:49,279 --> 01:15:52,658
Because it feels like
you're in this dream.
1619
01:15:57,279 --> 01:16:00,175
It's kind of that moment
between asleep and awake.
1620
01:16:04,382 --> 01:16:07,106
Jackie discovers her mother's
childhood diary in the film.
1621
01:16:08,244 --> 01:16:10,910
Lights going on and off,
1622
01:16:10,934 --> 01:16:12,462
taps left running.
1623
01:16:12,486 --> 01:16:14,600
It comes to pass that
the things in the diary
1624
01:16:14,624 --> 01:16:16,979
start to happen to her
within the plot of the film,
1625
01:16:17,003 --> 01:16:19,013
which is all leading
up to this revelation
1626
01:16:19,037 --> 01:16:21,565
that her late aunt
might not be as late
1627
01:16:21,589 --> 01:16:23,669
as she was led to believe.
1628
01:16:23,693 --> 01:16:25,255
What's that?
1629
01:16:25,279 --> 01:16:26,348
Didn't die.
1630
01:16:27,417 --> 01:16:29,393
There are some
horrific images in this.
1631
01:16:29,417 --> 01:16:31,900
It's a man drowned
in the bathtub.
1632
01:16:35,658 --> 01:16:37,565
And he's just like bloated.
1633
01:16:37,589 --> 01:16:39,634
It's tragic, but
it's also very scary.
1634
01:16:39,658 --> 01:16:41,900
Something that just like
sticks in your mind.
1635
01:16:46,727 --> 01:16:48,082
"Next of Kin" was
written and directed
1636
01:16:48,106 --> 01:16:50,013
by Tony Williams.
1637
01:16:50,037 --> 01:16:53,013
In this film, you can
see a lot of horror DNA.
1638
01:16:53,037 --> 01:16:54,117
You can see some Clouzot,
1639
01:16:54,141 --> 01:16:55,358
you see "Les
Diabolique" in there.
1640
01:16:55,382 --> 01:16:57,565
You can see some Fulci in there.
1641
01:16:57,589 --> 01:17:00,013
Any time somebody gets
it in the eyeballs.
1642
01:17:00,037 --> 01:17:01,589
Linda!
1643
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:06,738
Oh, it's rest home horror,
1644
01:17:06,762 --> 01:17:08,565
which is very cool,
but it's very Gothic,
1645
01:17:08,589 --> 01:17:10,910
and it's what we might call
today slow burn horror.
1646
01:17:10,934 --> 01:17:15,900
It's got that nice Australian
unhinged energy to it.
1647
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:23,669
Australian horror from the 80s
1648
01:17:23,693 --> 01:17:24,876
doesn't get a lot of love,
1649
01:17:24,900 --> 01:17:27,669
but when there's a
nice example of it,
1650
01:17:27,693 --> 01:17:29,865
like "Next of Kin",
it's fun to revisit.
1651
01:17:42,348 --> 01:17:44,427
"Amityville Horror",
big boogeyman story
1652
01:17:44,451 --> 01:17:45,910
on the east coast in the 70s.
1653
01:17:45,934 --> 01:17:50,082
True crime, kid shotguns his
parents, and his siblings,
1654
01:17:50,106 --> 01:17:52,910
and he claims demonic
possession was part of it.
1655
01:17:53,034 --> 01:17:55,286
It gets turned into a book.
1656
01:17:55,310 --> 01:17:56,769
It eventually gets
made into a movie
1657
01:17:56,793 --> 01:17:58,424
with James Brolin
and Margot Kidder.
1658
01:17:58,648 --> 01:18:02,141
To this day you see those
windows, "Amityville Horror".
1659
01:18:02,165 --> 01:18:03,693
Three years later,
they're making
1660
01:18:03,717 --> 01:18:05,451
"Amityville 2: The Possession",
1661
01:18:05,675 --> 01:18:09,444
which is essentially
the "true story"
1662
01:18:09,468 --> 01:18:11,744
of the kid killing his family.
1663
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,720
- "Amityville
-The Possession".
1664
01:18:17,744 --> 01:18:19,617
"Amityville: The Possession".
1665
01:18:19,641 --> 01:18:21,824
It has to do with possession,
1666
01:18:21,848 --> 01:18:23,675
but mainly it's about incest.
1667
01:18:24,779 --> 01:18:26,227
Take off your nightgown.
1668
01:18:27,262 --> 01:18:28,720
What?
1669
01:18:28,744 --> 01:18:31,169
This prequel is loosely
based on the DeFeo murders,
1670
01:18:31,193 --> 01:18:33,193
but the names have been changed.
1671
01:18:34,331 --> 01:18:35,479
Everything seems quite idyllic.
1672
01:18:35,503 --> 01:18:36,927
It's a nice little
lovely family,
1673
01:18:36,951 --> 01:18:38,065
until it's not.
1674
01:18:38,089 --> 01:18:39,513
The dad's a fucking asshole.
1675
01:18:39,537 --> 01:18:42,203
He's abusive to
everybody in the family.
1676
01:18:42,227 --> 01:18:43,479
- Think you're funny?
- What are you doing?
1677
01:18:43,503 --> 01:18:44,617
Huh?
1678
01:18:44,641 --> 01:18:46,134
You can't hit him-
1679
01:18:46,158 --> 01:18:50,262
Burt Young is maybe the
scuzziest dad in horror.
1680
01:18:51,193 --> 01:18:53,055
Please, don't hit that child.
1681
01:18:54,537 --> 01:18:56,031
Listen, this isn't your
business, you hear that?
1682
01:18:56,055 --> 01:18:58,065
We've got a teenage son
and a teenage daughter.
1683
01:18:58,089 --> 01:19:01,582
They've got a real weird
dynamic right off the get-go,
1684
01:19:01,606 --> 01:19:04,100
and it's one of those things
where you're questioning,
1685
01:19:04,124 --> 01:19:05,548
is it supposed to be like that?
1686
01:19:05,572 --> 01:19:06,720
Maybe the actors
were just having
1687
01:19:06,744 --> 01:19:08,341
a little too much chemistry
1688
01:19:08,365 --> 01:19:09,710
for brother and sister.
1689
01:19:10,882 --> 01:19:12,824
Until the brother
gets possessed,
1690
01:19:12,848 --> 01:19:14,548
and then gets it
on with his sister,
1691
01:19:14,572 --> 01:19:16,582
who is not possessed,
so I don't really know
1692
01:19:16,606 --> 01:19:18,020
what her excuse was.
1693
01:19:19,848 --> 01:19:21,996
Playing the young
daughter is Diane Franklin
1694
01:19:22,020 --> 01:19:24,479
from "Last American
Virgin", "Better Off Dead",
1695
01:19:24,503 --> 01:19:27,134
real apple pie, America's
sweetheart type stuff.
1696
01:19:27,158 --> 01:19:29,582
And if you wanna watch her
have sex with her brother,
1697
01:19:29,606 --> 01:19:32,055
"Amityville II" is
the film for you.
1698
01:19:34,710 --> 01:19:36,169
This skin-crawling incest
that happens in the film
1699
01:19:36,193 --> 01:19:38,789
was actually cut down from
what was in the original cut,
1700
01:19:38,813 --> 01:19:40,479
and it was apparently
a lot more graphic.
1701
01:19:40,503 --> 01:19:41,996
"Amityville II:
The Possession"
1702
01:19:42,020 --> 01:19:46,134
was directed by Italian
director, Damiano Damiani.
1703
01:19:46,158 --> 01:19:48,100
Written by Tommy Lee Wallace.
1704
01:19:48,124 --> 01:19:51,617
Best known for "Halloween
3: Season of the Witch".
1705
01:19:51,641 --> 01:19:54,341
And he co-wrote this
with Dardano Sacchetti
1706
01:19:54,365 --> 01:19:57,400
who often worked
with Lucio Fulci.
1707
01:19:59,296 --> 01:20:02,376
This one actually does have
really wonderful effects.
1708
01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:04,996
I mean, it's just
like 80s to the core.
1709
01:20:05,020 --> 01:20:06,513
Bladder effects,
like as the brother
1710
01:20:06,537 --> 01:20:09,238
is becoming more
and more possessed,
1711
01:20:09,262 --> 01:20:12,400
neck is just pulsing, or
his head will be pulsing.
1712
01:20:15,158 --> 01:20:18,651
My favorite moment in
"Amityville II: The Possession",
1713
01:20:18,675 --> 01:20:20,031
there's this part
where the camera
1714
01:20:20,055 --> 01:20:21,651
kind of goes overhead,
when he's like,
1715
01:20:21,675 --> 01:20:25,951
I guess the demon is
really going into his body.
1716
01:20:28,296 --> 01:20:30,686
"Amityville: The
Possession", and "Amityville"
1717
01:20:30,710 --> 01:20:35,341
the original first film are
two totally separate entities.
1718
01:20:35,365 --> 01:20:37,134
The tone is not the same.
1719
01:20:37,158 --> 01:20:40,100
The first one is just
straight up scary.
1720
01:20:40,124 --> 01:20:42,755
The second one has
kinds of all these weird
1721
01:20:42,779 --> 01:20:44,055
other tones in it.
1722
01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:47,410
You wanted it!
1723
01:20:47,434 --> 01:20:49,744
You feel very uncomfortable
for different reasons.
1724
01:20:50,675 --> 01:20:51,618
Look at them.
1725
01:20:51,642 --> 01:20:53,789
They're pathetic animals.
1726
01:20:53,813 --> 01:20:55,848
They'd be better off
if you killed them.
1727
01:20:57,055 --> 01:20:58,032
The second one is
just like fuck it,
1728
01:20:58,056 --> 01:20:59,272
let's go off the rails.
1729
01:20:59,296 --> 01:21:01,065
We're gonna loosely
use this title,
1730
01:21:01,089 --> 01:21:04,503
and then just go way off
into left field over here.
1731
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,789
And it's for that extra
bit of sickening material,
1732
01:21:10,813 --> 01:21:12,410
and there's lots of
it in this picture,
1733
01:21:12,434 --> 01:21:14,513
that's the reason that
"Amityville II: The Possession"
1734
01:21:14,537 --> 01:21:17,400
makes my list as one of the
worst films of the year.
1735
01:21:22,606 --> 01:21:25,951
That no one
would ever forget the girls
1736
01:21:28,055 --> 01:21:30,893
in "The House On Sorority Row".
1737
01:21:30,917 --> 01:21:35,720
That mystical world of the
sorority fraternity culture,
1738
01:21:35,744 --> 01:21:37,893
in the 80s, all films
were pointing us
1739
01:21:37,917 --> 01:21:39,134
towards that's
where you're going.
1740
01:21:39,158 --> 01:21:41,031
If it's not "Revenge
of the Nerds",
1741
01:21:41,055 --> 01:21:42,962
it's "The House
on Sorority Row".
1742
01:21:42,986 --> 01:21:43,859
I wanna thank you for helping me
1743
01:21:43,883 --> 01:21:46,055
become what I am today.
1744
01:21:46,986 --> 01:21:49,572
Wasted.
1745
01:21:50,882 --> 01:21:52,651
And then it's like,
what crazy debauchery
1746
01:21:52,675 --> 01:21:54,169
is gonna happen within the walls
1747
01:21:54,193 --> 01:21:55,548
of that sorority house?
1748
01:21:55,572 --> 01:21:57,203
And how will we be punished
1749
01:21:57,227 --> 01:21:59,503
for indulging in
that debauchery?
1750
01:22:04,055 --> 01:22:05,376
You filth!
1751
01:22:05,400 --> 01:22:07,927
Evil house mother.
1752
01:22:07,951 --> 01:22:11,434
The house mother to
end all house mothers.
1753
01:22:12,365 --> 01:22:14,962
Is killed accidentally
1754
01:22:14,986 --> 01:22:17,824
by sorority girls,
1755
01:22:17,848 --> 01:22:20,744
and revenge ensues.
1756
01:22:25,331 --> 01:22:29,031
I got my start "House
on Sorority Row".
1757
01:22:29,055 --> 01:22:32,720
I'd just come out
of theater school.
1758
01:22:32,744 --> 01:22:34,996
I think we got paid $50 a day.
1759
01:22:35,020 --> 01:22:36,238
We worked really hard, you know.
1760
01:22:36,262 --> 01:22:38,675
We shot night for
night for weeks.
1761
01:22:40,296 --> 01:22:43,065
So we were like
zombies during the day.
1762
01:22:43,089 --> 01:22:45,169
The director, he
kept a firm hand
1763
01:22:45,193 --> 01:22:48,962
without ever being an
asshole, to be honest.
1764
01:22:48,986 --> 01:22:51,400
Which is saying a lot
for a first endeavor.
1765
01:22:55,606 --> 01:22:57,548
Everyone else is
wearing a cute frock,
1766
01:22:57,572 --> 01:23:00,238
and I'm wearing these
ugly beige pants
1767
01:23:00,262 --> 01:23:02,479
and this sweater, and
I had to run around
1768
01:23:02,503 --> 01:23:05,720
in that stupid outfit,
and put it on everyday.
1769
01:23:05,744 --> 01:23:08,513
And I did not feel
like I looked terrific.
1770
01:23:08,537 --> 01:23:09,537
She's alive.
1771
01:23:10,710 --> 01:23:12,376
We put her back in the pool,
1772
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,100
and she was still alive!
1773
01:23:14,124 --> 01:23:16,376
He also colored my hair brown,
1774
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:19,203
because of course, smart
good girls have brown hair.
1775
01:23:19,227 --> 01:23:23,065
Me being the good girl, the
one who stays in the house
1776
01:23:23,089 --> 01:23:25,410
while her friends are being
murdered left and right.
1777
01:23:25,434 --> 01:23:26,986
That always makes me giggle.
1778
01:23:32,503 --> 01:23:33,996
Would you not run away?
1779
01:23:34,020 --> 01:23:36,272
Are you gonna go roaming
around in this house
1780
01:23:36,296 --> 01:23:37,824
looking for clues?
1781
01:23:37,848 --> 01:23:41,400
But I was drugged, so I
do have that to defend me.
1782
01:23:42,503 --> 01:23:44,065
Just a mild sedative.
1783
01:23:44,089 --> 01:23:46,031
It definitely had a style
1784
01:23:46,055 --> 01:23:48,917
that a lot of low budget
films really don't have.
1785
01:23:55,055 --> 01:23:57,307
"The House on Sorority
Row" ended up being
1786
01:23:57,331 --> 01:23:59,134
one of those movies that became
1787
01:23:59,158 --> 01:24:00,986
a bit of a cult fan favorite.
1788
01:24:04,813 --> 01:24:07,962
As much as I like to say it's
all because it's great film,
1789
01:24:07,986 --> 01:24:10,341
I think some of it
is, you know, fun
1790
01:24:10,365 --> 01:24:12,444
in that it's a little
bit over the top,
1791
01:24:12,468 --> 01:24:15,744
and when you think that's part
of the appeal of the genre.
1792
01:24:18,813 --> 01:24:20,686
I never thought I'd
be talking about it.
1793
01:24:20,710 --> 01:24:22,065
You know, I'm 63.
1794
01:24:22,089 --> 01:24:25,548
I was 23.
1795
01:24:25,572 --> 01:24:28,513
Wow.
1796
01:24:28,537 --> 01:24:31,100
But I have no
regrets whatsoever.
1797
01:24:31,124 --> 01:24:32,400
It was fun.
1798
01:24:47,813 --> 01:24:50,651
As an actor watching films,
1799
01:24:50,675 --> 01:24:53,789
I certainly dial
into performances.
1800
01:24:53,813 --> 01:24:57,400
I sort of learned
my craft by doing.
1801
01:24:58,848 --> 01:25:00,272
I had taken dance lessons,
1802
01:25:00,296 --> 01:25:03,158
and so I started
out doing theater.
1803
01:25:05,710 --> 01:25:06,927
โช Lady Godiva
1804
01:25:06,951 --> 01:25:09,927
The first television
project I did was Maude.
1805
01:25:09,951 --> 01:25:12,996
And it was a four camera sitcom
1806
01:25:13,020 --> 01:25:14,617
that we filmed like a play.
1807
01:25:14,641 --> 01:25:16,617
So stop asking
who I was out with,
1808
01:25:16,641 --> 01:25:17,720
what we had for dinner,
1809
01:25:17,744 --> 01:25:19,468
and did we go all the way.
1810
01:25:22,365 --> 01:25:26,376
And then my next
real film education
1811
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,893
came when I did
"Someone's Watching Me"
1812
01:25:28,917 --> 01:25:30,513
for John Carpenter.
1813
01:25:30,537 --> 01:25:34,376
I played, I believe,
the first lesbian woman
1814
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:35,617
in a television film.
1815
01:25:35,641 --> 01:25:37,617
And he had written
a fantastic scene
1816
01:25:37,641 --> 01:25:41,548
in which her
sexuality is revealed.
1817
01:25:41,572 --> 01:25:42,572
Who's he?
1818
01:25:44,572 --> 01:25:45,572
She.
1819
01:25:46,537 --> 01:25:48,169
And we did it, and
John came up to me
1820
01:25:48,193 --> 01:25:50,307
and he said that was
great, that was perfect.
1821
01:25:50,331 --> 01:25:51,444
Do less.
1822
01:25:51,468 --> 01:25:52,272
Don't worry.
1823
01:25:52,296 --> 01:25:53,296
You're not my type.
1824
01:25:54,158 --> 01:25:55,548
I'm not worried.
1825
01:25:55,572 --> 01:25:58,410
And it was the proverbial
light bulb going off.
1826
01:25:58,434 --> 01:26:00,548
Oh, because it's film,
1827
01:26:00,572 --> 01:26:02,479
because it's not theater.
1828
01:26:02,503 --> 01:26:03,893
Do less.
1829
01:26:03,917 --> 01:26:06,513
Now, especially something
like "Creepshow",
1830
01:26:06,537 --> 01:26:08,307
which was George Romero,
1831
01:26:08,331 --> 01:26:11,307
which was such an
outrageous character,
1832
01:26:11,331 --> 01:26:14,307
which was George saying
no, you can be bigger!
1833
01:26:14,331 --> 01:26:16,100
You can be bigger,
you can be bigger.
1834
01:26:16,124 --> 01:26:17,686
That was like, wait a
minute, wait a minute.
1835
01:26:17,710 --> 01:26:21,376
I just spent the last three
years learning to do less.
1836
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,410
I mean, where would you be
without me to take care of you?
1837
01:26:24,434 --> 01:26:27,927
The important thing about
approaching a character
1838
01:26:27,951 --> 01:26:30,927
like Billy in "Creepshow",
who everybody will watch
1839
01:26:30,951 --> 01:26:33,651
the movie and say oh,
she's just a bitch.
1840
01:26:33,675 --> 01:26:35,513
When was the last time
you got it up, Henry?
1841
01:26:35,537 --> 01:26:36,996
Huh?
1842
01:26:37,020 --> 01:26:38,893
When was the last time
you were a man in our bed?
1843
01:26:38,917 --> 01:26:40,893
She's the most horrible,
and she needed to be
1844
01:26:40,917 --> 01:26:43,996
so that everybody
would cheer when Henry
1845
01:26:44,020 --> 01:26:45,617
arranged for her demise.
1846
01:26:45,641 --> 01:26:46,841
Don't you ever touch me again!
1847
01:26:52,503 --> 01:26:55,582
As an actor, you
don't play I'm a bitch.
1848
01:26:55,606 --> 01:26:58,893
You explore whatever
it is that made her
1849
01:26:58,917 --> 01:26:59,894
the way she was.
1850
01:26:59,918 --> 01:27:02,410
She's incredibly disappointed
1851
01:27:02,434 --> 01:27:04,513
in the way her life turned out.
1852
01:27:04,537 --> 01:27:06,858
Henry, goddammit!
1853
01:27:06,882 --> 01:27:08,376
How many times have I told you
1854
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:09,927
to lock the goddam door?
1855
01:27:09,951 --> 01:27:11,444
You have to
understand what it is
1856
01:27:11,468 --> 01:27:13,513
that drives the behavior.
1857
01:27:13,537 --> 01:27:15,617
At least Henry has
me to take care of him,
1858
01:27:15,641 --> 01:27:16,893
don't you, dear?
1859
01:27:16,917 --> 01:27:18,376
I didn't see a lot
of films growing up,
1860
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:21,651
but I do remember something
called "Donovan's Brain".
1861
01:27:21,675 --> 01:27:24,307
I don't know that I had
ever seen a horror film
1862
01:27:24,331 --> 01:27:27,996
besides "Donovan's Brain",
until John invited me
1863
01:27:28,020 --> 01:27:30,606
to the screening of "Halloween".
1864
01:27:31,986 --> 01:27:35,410
I had just done The Tonight
Show earlier that day,
1865
01:27:35,434 --> 01:27:38,100
and announced on Johnny Carson
1866
01:27:38,124 --> 01:27:40,720
that John and I were engaged.
1867
01:27:40,744 --> 01:27:44,376
And then I went to the
screening of "Halloween".
1868
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:47,307
By the end of that film,
I suspect that he was
1869
01:27:47,331 --> 01:27:50,065
black and blue, because
I kept going, oh my god!
1870
01:27:50,089 --> 01:27:50,894
Oh my god!
1871
01:27:50,918 --> 01:27:52,479
I was like, oh, oh!
1872
01:27:52,503 --> 01:27:53,377
Oh my, oh!
1873
01:27:53,401 --> 01:27:55,789
You know?
1874
01:27:55,813 --> 01:27:58,468
It's the first horror
film I'd ever seen.
1875
01:27:59,606 --> 01:28:01,720
It was at that point
that Tom Atkins,
1876
01:28:01,744 --> 01:28:03,065
who is also at the screening,
1877
01:28:03,089 --> 01:28:05,307
leaned over to me and said Addy,
1878
01:28:05,331 --> 01:28:07,307
I'm not sure you
should marry this guy.
1879
01:28:07,331 --> 01:28:09,686
We cannot let
Adrienne marry this guy.
1880
01:28:09,710 --> 01:28:11,824
There's something
wrong with him.
1881
01:28:11,848 --> 01:28:13,651
He makes this kind of movie.
1882
01:28:13,675 --> 01:28:14,927
But she married him,
1883
01:28:14,951 --> 01:28:17,882
and they had a lovely
child together, Cody.
1884
01:28:18,710 --> 01:28:21,134
Well, stay up with me.
1885
01:28:21,158 --> 01:28:24,307
And I'll figure out some
way to keep you occupied.
1886
01:28:24,531 --> 01:28:28,369
When John first had me read
the script for "The Fog",
1887
01:28:28,593 --> 01:28:31,465
I was pretty involved
in social issues.
1888
01:28:31,789 --> 01:28:33,489
"Coming Home" was a huge hit,
1889
01:28:33,513 --> 01:28:36,834
and "The China Syndrome"
was a huge hit.
1890
01:28:36,858 --> 01:28:39,213
And I read it, and it was like,
1891
01:28:39,237 --> 01:28:42,410
uh, this is a horror film.
1892
01:28:47,100 --> 01:28:48,248
This is not about
women's rights.
1893
01:28:48,272 --> 01:28:50,007
It's not about abortion.
1894
01:28:50,031 --> 01:28:52,351
But, I mean, I loved the
character and everything,
1895
01:28:52,375 --> 01:28:55,558
and of course, since,
it's one of the things
1896
01:28:55,582 --> 01:28:58,444
that I am most proud of doing.
1897
01:29:03,237 --> 01:29:06,455
The one piece of merchandise
that I really love,
1898
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:08,696
"The Fog" action figure.
1899
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,720
I think that's a marvelous
piece of merchandising.
1900
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,007
None of us knew in the 80s
1901
01:29:16,031 --> 01:29:18,076
that the work we were doing,
1902
01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:21,144
"Escape From New York", or
"The Fog", or "Creepshow',
1903
01:29:21,168 --> 01:29:25,962
would be as viable today.
1904
01:29:27,306 --> 01:29:29,789
The career of an
actor, when it works,
1905
01:29:30,686 --> 01:29:32,065
is a wonderful career.
1906
01:29:48,375 --> 01:29:49,524
"Xtro".
1907
01:29:49,548 --> 01:29:52,455
Some extraterrestrials
aren't friendly.
1908
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:53,489
From New Line Cinema.
1909
01:29:53,513 --> 01:29:54,972
Rated R.
1910
01:29:54,996 --> 01:29:56,524
Roger begins with a
horror film called "Xtro".
1911
01:29:56,548 --> 01:29:58,007
That's X-T-R-O.
1912
01:29:58,031 --> 01:30:00,282
Remember that spelling,
remember that name.
1913
01:30:00,306 --> 01:30:04,076
So, "Xtro" is about an
alien that kills people,
1914
01:30:04,100 --> 01:30:07,558
but it's also the cliche
of the disturbed kid
1915
01:30:07,582 --> 01:30:11,272
with the powers, and
evil clowns, too.
1916
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:18,858
It's kind of everything.
1917
01:30:21,651 --> 01:30:24,489
I'd say it's very confusing
1918
01:30:24,513 --> 01:30:27,007
slightly surrealistic movie,
1919
01:30:27,031 --> 01:30:29,651
and I'm not really
sure what it's about.
1920
01:30:30,893 --> 01:30:33,007
So a father gets
abducted by aliens.
1921
01:30:33,031 --> 01:30:35,386
The wife thinks that he
ran off with another woman.
1922
01:30:35,410 --> 01:30:37,410
The alien impregnates somebody.
1923
01:30:40,548 --> 01:30:44,179
Then the woman gives
birth to a human child,
1924
01:30:44,203 --> 01:30:46,076
and it turns out
to be the father,
1925
01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:48,065
who's been abducted and reborn.
1926
01:30:49,237 --> 01:30:52,213
I'm told that it's
about abandonment.
1927
01:30:52,237 --> 01:30:55,420
Some very smart
critic told me that.
1928
01:30:55,444 --> 01:30:58,420
And I just hung onto that
word every since then.
1929
01:30:58,444 --> 01:31:01,076
I can't remember
a thing until today.
1930
01:31:01,100 --> 01:31:02,627
I saw Tony in the streets, so-
1931
01:31:02,651 --> 01:31:04,144
You want to come home.
1932
01:31:04,168 --> 01:31:05,351
Like it was.
1933
01:31:05,375 --> 01:31:07,662
I think what makes
marketable film
1934
01:31:07,686 --> 01:31:09,513
of any kind is being unusual.
1935
01:31:10,686 --> 01:31:12,420
Bob Shaye, who's the
head of New Line,
1936
01:31:12,444 --> 01:31:14,076
and who started New Line,
1937
01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:17,662
I think Bob Shaye wanted
to have his own "Phantasm".
1938
01:31:17,686 --> 01:31:19,213
We just wanted to shock people,
1939
01:31:19,237 --> 01:31:20,593
and make our little horror film,
1940
01:31:20,617 --> 01:31:22,696
and we wanted to have
good acting and so on,
1941
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:24,834
so you've got this
rather uneasy business,
1942
01:31:24,858 --> 01:31:27,282
between all these little
Shakespearean actors,
1943
01:31:27,306 --> 01:31:30,455
and all this nonsense
that they've got to talk.
1944
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,375
You'll be able to
do lots of things.
1945
01:31:33,341 --> 01:31:34,731
Don't be frightened.
1946
01:31:34,755 --> 01:31:35,972
Use it when you need it.
1947
01:31:35,996 --> 01:31:37,213
The best part in "Xtro",
1948
01:31:37,237 --> 01:31:38,972
there's this creepy alien effect
1949
01:31:38,996 --> 01:31:40,800
where it's a person
doing one of those
1950
01:31:40,824 --> 01:31:42,420
backwards spider walks.
1951
01:31:42,444 --> 01:31:44,351
The prosthetic is
put on backwards,
1952
01:31:44,375 --> 01:31:46,272
so it looks very unsettling.
1953
01:31:47,858 --> 01:31:50,972
He's walking backwards
with his back to the ground
1954
01:31:50,996 --> 01:31:53,696
on all fours, but with
his stomach sticking up
1955
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:57,558
to the sky, and the head of
the creature on backwards,
1956
01:31:57,582 --> 01:31:59,282
which was absolute
misery for him,
1957
01:31:59,306 --> 01:32:01,558
because it was cold,
and we were having him
1958
01:32:01,582 --> 01:32:03,824
walking through swamps,
and things like that.
1959
01:32:08,168 --> 01:32:10,076
A civilization develops
enough intelligence
1960
01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:12,662
to come all the way to
Earth from another star,
1961
01:32:12,686 --> 01:32:14,041
and then they don't
have enough sense
1962
01:32:14,065 --> 01:32:15,351
to not stand in the
middle of the road
1963
01:32:15,375 --> 01:32:16,869
when a car is coming.
1964
01:32:16,893 --> 01:32:18,731
When it came to
this birth scene,
1965
01:32:18,755 --> 01:32:20,558
which, I think nobody understood
1966
01:32:20,582 --> 01:32:23,317
except me and the
special effects guys.
1967
01:32:23,341 --> 01:32:25,110
We had to have a thing
with the false floor,
1968
01:32:25,134 --> 01:32:27,662
and all this sort of thing,
and trap doors, and whatnot.
1969
01:32:27,686 --> 01:32:29,869
We did a lot of it in one take.
1970
01:32:29,893 --> 01:32:32,110
As much of it as we
could in one take.
1971
01:32:32,134 --> 01:32:34,662
All sorts of nasty kind
of afterbirth stuff.
1972
01:32:34,686 --> 01:32:36,696
And then we had
the umbilical cord,
1973
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,386
that we made out of
spaghetti, actually.
1974
01:32:39,410 --> 01:32:40,972
And he had to bite through that.
1975
01:32:40,996 --> 01:32:43,076
We were astonished we got it.
1976
01:32:43,100 --> 01:32:45,007
No, I wasn't a bit worried
about it going too far.
1977
01:32:45,031 --> 01:32:47,410
I was worried about it
not going far enough.
1978
01:32:49,617 --> 01:32:52,938
Bob, god bless him, was
always more for having
1979
01:32:52,962 --> 01:32:54,834
more weird things going on.
1980
01:32:54,858 --> 01:32:56,765
He said hey, you gotta
have a panther in there,
1981
01:32:56,789 --> 01:32:57,800
jumping out at someone.
1982
01:32:57,824 --> 01:32:58,766
Something like that.
1983
01:32:58,790 --> 01:33:00,076
He wanted his panther.
1984
01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:01,858
And he got it.
1985
01:33:07,617 --> 01:33:09,213
It's as if they're
so pretentious
1986
01:33:09,237 --> 01:33:10,455
that they're trying
to make some kind of
1987
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,144
a philosophical statement.
1988
01:33:12,168 --> 01:33:13,041
It was garbage.
1989
01:33:13,065 --> 01:33:13,973
It was offensive.
1990
01:33:13,997 --> 01:33:15,282
Garbage is the operative word.
1991
01:33:15,306 --> 01:33:17,420
With little films like these,
1992
01:33:17,444 --> 01:33:19,869
the audience knows
it's a low budget film.
1993
01:33:19,893 --> 01:33:21,076
They know right away.
1994
01:33:21,100 --> 01:33:23,110
They can sniff it
from the first frame.
1995
01:33:23,134 --> 01:33:25,617
And they tend to
be more forgiving.
1996
01:33:30,100 --> 01:33:33,007
That was just at the
start of home video.
1997
01:33:33,131 --> 01:33:36,176
And I remember the first
week that we came out,
1998
01:33:36,300 --> 01:33:38,862
we beat "Poltergeist",
if you can believe that,
1999
01:33:38,986 --> 01:33:41,193
in the VHS ratings.
2000
01:33:45,672 --> 01:33:48,579
It grew legs, and
it just ran off.
2001
01:33:48,603 --> 01:33:51,958
It absolutely killed in
the home video market.
2002
01:33:51,982 --> 01:33:53,293
Amazing.
2003
01:34:04,051 --> 01:34:05,510
"Curtains".
2004
01:34:05,534 --> 01:34:07,476
The ultimate nightmare.
2005
01:34:07,500 --> 01:34:08,993
Canadian horror movie.
2006
01:34:09,017 --> 01:34:10,993
When you come from Canada,
you don't really realize
2007
01:34:11,017 --> 01:34:12,131
that the movies are from Canada.
2008
01:34:12,155 --> 01:34:13,407
Like Rush.
2009
01:34:13,431 --> 01:34:14,544
You don't think of it
as Canada's best band.
2010
01:34:14,568 --> 01:34:16,441
They're just a great band.
2011
01:34:16,465 --> 01:34:17,510
And what's the difference?
2012
01:34:17,534 --> 01:34:19,786
I mean, they're more friendly?
2013
01:34:19,810 --> 01:34:21,948
It kind of just blends in
with the American ones.
2014
01:34:24,396 --> 01:34:26,993
"Curtains" is about
a bunch of actresses
2015
01:34:27,017 --> 01:34:29,993
who go to a director's mansion
to audition for a role.
2016
01:34:30,017 --> 01:34:31,372
Red flag.
2017
01:34:31,396 --> 01:34:33,810
And there is a
killer on the loose.
2018
01:34:37,948 --> 01:34:40,889
And they're all also
competing for a part.
2019
01:34:40,913 --> 01:34:42,500
It gets messy.
2020
01:34:48,396 --> 01:34:51,131
An actress named Samantha
commits herself to a psych ward.
2021
01:34:51,155 --> 01:34:52,924
She's trying to,
like, be the part.
2022
01:34:52,948 --> 01:34:54,924
And then the director
fucking leaves her there
2023
01:34:54,948 --> 01:34:57,889
and goes to a mansion to
hang out with five other
2024
01:34:57,913 --> 01:34:59,510
younger, hotter actresses,
2025
01:34:59,534 --> 01:35:02,637
while a killer in a hag
mask goes after them.
2026
01:35:04,879 --> 01:35:07,234
It has these "What Ever
Happened to Baby Jane?" vibes,
2027
01:35:07,258 --> 01:35:09,200
just because there is that
element in the beginning
2028
01:35:09,224 --> 01:35:12,338
of the older actress who
gets left in a psych ward,
2029
01:35:12,362 --> 01:35:14,958
and has to escape
to get revenge.
2030
01:35:14,982 --> 01:35:16,810
What are you gonna do now?
2031
01:35:18,534 --> 01:35:20,062
What I love about the film
2032
01:35:20,086 --> 01:35:22,579
is it knows that Striker,
the director, is a creep.
2033
01:35:22,603 --> 01:35:23,603
Now seduce me.
2034
01:35:24,982 --> 01:35:25,982
No words.
2035
01:35:27,258 --> 01:35:28,579
You can make sounds if you like.
2036
01:35:28,603 --> 01:35:30,269
The horror in "Curtains" for me
2037
01:35:30,293 --> 01:35:33,958
is the way that Jonathan
Striker treats the women.
2038
01:35:33,982 --> 01:35:36,786
He forces two women
to seduce each other,
2039
01:35:36,810 --> 01:35:39,234
and she's topless,
and you can just tell
2040
01:35:39,258 --> 01:35:40,855
the women are not into it,
2041
01:35:40,879 --> 01:35:43,751
but they just do it because
it's requested of them.
2042
01:35:43,775 --> 01:35:47,476
He preys on them, ends
up sleeping with them.
2043
01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:51,510
Almost like an allegory
on the industry.
2044
01:35:51,534 --> 01:35:55,476
And there's that great
scene in the frozen pond,
2045
01:35:55,500 --> 01:35:59,096
where the one actress is
skating away from the killer
2046
01:35:59,120 --> 01:36:00,682
with this doll in her hand,
2047
01:36:00,706 --> 01:36:02,372
and the killer's got the mask on
2048
01:36:02,396 --> 01:36:05,534
with this side, like raises it,
2049
01:36:09,155 --> 01:36:11,924
Fucking insane, and
it's all in slow-mo,
2050
01:36:11,948 --> 01:36:14,637
and it's the weirdest
mask you've ever seen.
2051
01:36:16,155 --> 01:36:19,810
You don't know if
it's a woman or not.
2052
01:36:24,224 --> 01:36:25,682
It makes you fear the daylight,
2053
01:36:25,706 --> 01:36:28,786
and the emptiness in what
can happen when you're alone
2054
01:36:28,810 --> 01:36:31,269
in a seemingly safe space.
2055
01:36:31,293 --> 01:36:34,544
Originally, they wanted to
create a banshee creature,
2056
01:36:34,568 --> 01:36:36,603
but they didn't move
forward with it.
2057
01:36:38,948 --> 01:36:43,303
"Curtains" has a very
interesting kind of tone.
2058
01:36:43,327 --> 01:36:45,062
That's because it
was actually directed
2059
01:36:45,086 --> 01:36:46,544
by two different people.
2060
01:36:46,568 --> 01:36:50,338
It feels almost very slow,
and very mood building,
2061
01:36:50,362 --> 01:36:53,200
and then in some scenes,
it's very slash 'em up,
2062
01:36:53,224 --> 01:36:56,706
and darkly lit, that it feels
like an art house slasher.
2063
01:37:01,568 --> 01:37:03,682
"Curtains" is for
people who like dolls
2064
01:37:03,706 --> 01:37:06,303
and ice skating,
and old witch masks.
2065
01:37:06,327 --> 01:37:07,717
That has me written all over it.
2066
01:37:07,741 --> 01:37:09,086
So I'm sold.
2067
01:37:20,706 --> 01:37:22,234
"Hell of the Living Dead".
2068
01:37:22,258 --> 01:37:25,200
Also known as "Night
of the Zombies",
2069
01:37:25,224 --> 01:37:27,131
originally titled "Virus".
2070
01:37:27,155 --> 01:37:29,637
But known in England as
"Zombie Creeping Flesh".
2071
01:37:31,500 --> 01:37:35,476
This is the VHS tape,
and a perfect example
2072
01:37:35,500 --> 01:37:38,958
of the lurid artwork
that I would see
2073
01:37:38,982 --> 01:37:41,131
on the shelves of a video shop
2074
01:37:41,155 --> 01:37:42,982
and think that movie is for me.
2075
01:37:45,775 --> 01:37:47,338
There's a lab in
Papua New Guinea
2076
01:37:47,362 --> 01:37:50,062
that has a chemical that
accidentally gets released
2077
01:37:50,086 --> 01:37:53,017
that turns pretty much
everybody into zombies.
2078
01:37:55,086 --> 01:37:56,303
And you follow this
group of people
2079
01:37:56,327 --> 01:37:57,579
that travel around the globe
2080
01:37:57,603 --> 01:37:59,672
trying to stop this
grand conspiracy.
2081
01:38:00,603 --> 01:38:02,500
Or maybe you just get eaten.
2082
01:38:03,948 --> 01:38:05,948
This is an Italian film
that was dubbed in English.
2083
01:38:06,879 --> 01:38:08,476
It was directed by Bruno Mattei,
2084
01:38:08,500 --> 01:38:10,544
under the pseudonym
Vincent Dawn.
2085
01:38:10,568 --> 01:38:11,855
If you're familiar
with his work,
2086
01:38:11,879 --> 01:38:14,407
you know the dubbing
is pretty terrible,
2087
01:38:14,431 --> 01:38:16,476
but that just adds to
the awesomeness of it.
2088
01:38:16,500 --> 01:38:17,993
And we liked each other.
2089
01:38:18,017 --> 01:38:19,579
We'd be in the sack
together by now.
2090
01:38:19,603 --> 01:38:20,855
That's your opinion.
2091
01:38:20,879 --> 01:38:23,844
Bruno Mattei was the
copycat of Lucio Fulci.
2092
01:38:25,258 --> 01:38:27,820
"Hell of the Living Dead"
came about in the wake
2093
01:38:27,844 --> 01:38:30,131
of the success of
Fulci's "Zombie",
2094
01:38:30,155 --> 01:38:34,165
so essentially he was making
an Italian zombie movie
2095
01:38:34,189 --> 01:38:35,613
which was shot in Spain,
2096
01:38:35,637 --> 01:38:38,476
but using the tropes that
Fulci had come up with
2097
01:38:38,500 --> 01:38:41,224
on the back of ripping
off George Romero.
2098
01:38:45,327 --> 01:38:49,062
Set to the scores of Goblin,
2099
01:38:49,086 --> 01:38:52,096
but none of the score was
actually scored for this movie.
2100
01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:54,786
They used the soundtrack
from "Contamination"
2101
01:38:54,810 --> 01:38:56,751
and "Dawn of the
Dead" by Goblin,
2102
01:38:56,775 --> 01:38:59,706
and scored this movie
with those scores.
2103
01:39:00,844 --> 01:39:01,649
Father.
2104
01:39:01,673 --> 01:39:02,993
Father.
2105
01:39:03,017 --> 01:39:04,120
What's wrong with you?
2106
01:39:07,534 --> 01:39:09,165
When the pandemic
hit really hard,
2107
01:39:09,189 --> 01:39:11,303
of course I couldn't
stop making movies.
2108
01:39:11,327 --> 01:39:13,993
The idea of "Corona Zombies"
was these ditzy girls,
2109
01:39:14,017 --> 01:39:17,510
they turn a movie on
that was the footage
2110
01:39:17,534 --> 01:39:19,372
from "Hell of the Living
Dead", with all this
2111
01:39:19,396 --> 01:39:21,131
very funny clever new dialogue.
2112
01:39:21,155 --> 01:39:22,889
We have
just received shocking video
2113
01:39:22,913 --> 01:39:25,855
of what is believed to be
ground zero of the virus.
2114
01:39:25,879 --> 01:39:28,293
It was much like
"What's Up Tiger Lily?"
2115
01:39:29,431 --> 01:39:32,407
Is that one of
the corona zombies?
2116
01:39:32,431 --> 01:39:33,648
Shh.
2117
01:39:33,672 --> 01:39:35,062
"Hell of the Living
Dead", it's very ahead
2118
01:39:35,086 --> 01:39:37,200
of its time, and it's
very much against
2119
01:39:37,224 --> 01:39:40,751
man infecting the
earth with pollution.
2120
01:39:40,775 --> 01:39:42,682
And that is what's
causing the outbreak.
2121
01:39:42,706 --> 01:39:46,786
But it's also full of
Fulci-esque rotting zombies
2122
01:39:46,810 --> 01:39:48,303
and gore and splatter,
2123
01:39:48,327 --> 01:39:49,510
and eyes being poked out,
2124
01:39:49,534 --> 01:39:51,500
and guts being poked out.
2125
01:39:53,500 --> 01:39:55,613
This movie is entirely enjoyable
2126
01:39:55,637 --> 01:39:56,751
from beginning to end.
2127
01:39:56,775 --> 01:39:59,269
It was the first
example where I realized
2128
01:39:59,293 --> 01:40:01,741
that the Video Nasties
panic was nonsense.
2129
01:40:17,189 --> 01:40:18,568
Father help me.
2130
01:40:20,603 --> 01:40:23,200
"Possession" is a
film about a couple
2131
01:40:23,224 --> 01:40:26,476
whose marriage is
deteriorating fast.
2132
01:40:26,500 --> 01:40:28,303
What do you expect of me?
2133
01:40:28,327 --> 01:40:29,500
Look what you're doing!
2134
01:40:32,293 --> 01:40:35,200
Mark and Anna, you
can see that they are
2135
01:40:35,224 --> 01:40:37,027
extremely unhappy
with each other.
2136
01:40:37,051 --> 01:40:38,751
They're screaming at each other.
2137
01:40:38,875 --> 01:40:41,944
Isabelle Adjani is incredible.
2138
01:40:46,803 --> 01:40:49,355
But especially in
the subway scene.
2139
01:40:54,079 --> 01:40:55,503
And it's so disturbing.
2140
01:40:55,527 --> 01:40:56,951
One of the most effective scenes
2141
01:40:56,975 --> 01:41:00,768
of showing somebody just
completely losing themselves.
2142
01:41:05,975 --> 01:41:08,227
Sam Neill as Mark in this film
2143
01:41:08,251 --> 01:41:10,458
is a very anxious character.
2144
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,538
Cinematography
really communicates
2145
01:41:16,562 --> 01:41:18,262
his inner feelings.
2146
01:41:18,286 --> 01:41:20,641
He's also very
paranoid about Anna.
2147
01:41:20,665 --> 01:41:22,262
Their whole
relationship together
2148
01:41:22,286 --> 01:41:24,493
is extremely hard to watch.
2149
01:41:25,562 --> 01:41:26,941
You know what this is for?
2150
01:41:27,906 --> 01:41:29,331
The lies!
2151
01:41:29,355 --> 01:41:32,124
Then you have to add much more.
2152
01:41:32,148 --> 01:41:35,837
They're very codependent,
and very bad for each other.
2153
01:41:41,044 --> 01:41:43,676
The dramatic elements are
really what drives the movie,
2154
01:41:43,700 --> 01:41:46,734
but then you have, it turns
into this creature feature.
2155
01:41:49,113 --> 01:41:50,056
My god.
2156
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:52,079
He made love to me all night.
2157
01:41:53,562 --> 01:41:56,779
She actually in this movie
has sex with this monster,
2158
01:41:56,803 --> 01:41:58,607
which was created
by Carlo Rambaldi,
2159
01:41:58,631 --> 01:42:00,400
who most people
know is the person
2160
01:42:00,424 --> 01:42:02,872
who created E.T. for
Steven Spielberg.
2161
01:42:04,010 --> 01:42:05,503
I can't believe
that they talked her
2162
01:42:05,527 --> 01:42:06,882
into doing that entire scene.
2163
01:42:06,906 --> 01:42:10,113
And it looks so realistic.
2164
01:42:12,975 --> 01:42:17,020
"Possession" is the epitome
of relationship horror.
2165
01:42:17,044 --> 01:42:19,400
That feeling of how it
is to all out of love
2166
01:42:19,424 --> 01:42:20,951
with someone you care about.
2167
01:42:20,975 --> 01:42:24,710
Those moments of
desperation and loss
2168
01:42:24,734 --> 01:42:26,631
are so heartbreaking.
2169
01:42:29,665 --> 01:42:31,676
It's a lot to take in.
2170
01:42:31,700 --> 01:42:34,538
It's waiting to see
who will die first.
2171
01:42:34,562 --> 01:42:37,469
That is a movie that
deserved all the Oscar love,
2172
01:42:37,493 --> 01:42:39,262
because it really
took a lot of risks,
2173
01:42:39,286 --> 01:42:41,631
but it did a lot of
profound things as well.
2174
01:42:57,596 --> 01:43:01,779
"Devil Fetus" was made by a
bunch of first time filmmakers
2175
01:43:01,803 --> 01:43:05,400
that got a hold of themselves
some iconic actors.
2176
01:43:05,424 --> 01:43:06,503
And it's crazy.
2177
01:43:06,527 --> 01:43:08,596
The special effects are insane.
2178
01:43:11,527 --> 01:43:13,503
A woman buys a vase.
2179
01:43:13,527 --> 01:43:15,493
The vase has a demon.
2180
01:43:18,596 --> 01:43:20,227
He crawls out, and
he has sex with her
2181
01:43:20,251 --> 01:43:21,434
and impregnates her.
2182
01:43:21,458 --> 01:43:24,262
And that's the
devil fetus title.
2183
01:43:24,286 --> 01:43:27,768
Everybody dies around
her in miraculous ways.
2184
01:43:30,113 --> 01:43:32,262
That antique shop has
a lot to answer for.
2185
01:43:32,286 --> 01:43:33,941
Like, I hope she
kept the receipt.
2186
01:43:34,872 --> 01:43:36,941
It's a very weird movie.
2187
01:43:42,527 --> 01:43:44,262
What is cool about it is
these special effects,
2188
01:43:44,286 --> 01:43:46,700
and it has so much 80s charm.
2189
01:43:52,631 --> 01:43:56,331
You have this animated
thunder and lightning
2190
01:43:56,355 --> 01:43:57,848
coming out of people's hands,
2191
01:43:57,872 --> 01:44:00,837
you have them flying across
things, and floating heads.
2192
01:44:05,251 --> 01:44:08,124
The martial arts in this
is incredible, actually.
2193
01:44:08,148 --> 01:44:10,217
That's one of the
biggest selling points.
2194
01:44:12,803 --> 01:44:13,986
There's all kinds
of things happening
2195
01:44:14,010 --> 01:44:16,182
in this movie that's
hard to explain.
2196
01:44:22,562 --> 01:44:24,365
To us it might seem
like a fever dream,
2197
01:44:24,389 --> 01:44:27,469
but to the people who were
involved in the culture,
2198
01:44:27,493 --> 01:44:29,941
they may know all of these
things from childhood.
2199
01:44:33,458 --> 01:44:35,296
Very few category
three films were cut,
2200
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:36,665
and this one was.
2201
01:44:38,044 --> 01:44:39,882
It has to deal with
gore and the assault
2202
01:44:39,906 --> 01:44:41,951
that happens in the film.
2203
01:44:41,975 --> 01:44:44,020
Cat three goes to 11.
2204
01:44:44,044 --> 01:44:45,193
You know?
2205
01:44:45,217 --> 01:44:47,538
It's a little bit higher
than 10 and NC-17,
2206
01:44:47,562 --> 01:44:49,020
but it's not quite X.
2207
01:44:49,044 --> 01:44:51,700
Which, X-rated films were
rated Cat three as well.
2208
01:44:54,382 --> 01:44:55,500
You think the film's
going this way,
2209
01:44:55,724 --> 01:44:56,976
and then it goes in a
different direction.
2210
01:44:57,100 --> 01:44:59,272
That's what's unique
about "Devil Fetus".
2211
01:45:04,582 --> 01:45:08,110
It has the most epic
last five minutes
2212
01:45:08,134 --> 01:45:10,237
of any movie you'll ever see.
2213
01:45:25,789 --> 01:45:27,420
"Eyes of Fire".
2214
01:45:27,444 --> 01:45:30,110
The secret is
sleeping in the trees.
2215
01:45:30,134 --> 01:45:31,248
"Eyes of Fire" is a weird one,
2216
01:45:31,272 --> 01:45:32,938
because it's set in the 1700s,
2217
01:45:32,962 --> 01:45:36,489
and it concerns a preacher
who is accused of adultery,
2218
01:45:36,513 --> 01:45:38,282
and is banished from town.
2219
01:45:38,306 --> 01:45:39,731
And he and his family
find themselves
2220
01:45:39,755 --> 01:45:43,317
in the woods beset by
spirits of Native Americans.
2221
01:45:43,341 --> 01:45:46,420
God damn them!
2222
01:45:46,444 --> 01:45:50,144
"Eyes of Fire" is an
American folk horror movie.
2223
01:45:50,168 --> 01:45:53,100
This valley is where
the lost blood gathers.
2224
01:45:54,582 --> 01:45:55,962
It's the home of the devil.
2225
01:45:57,168 --> 01:45:58,077
If you believe in it.
2226
01:45:58,101 --> 01:45:59,351
This film is entirely unique,
2227
01:45:59,375 --> 01:46:02,662
shot by a photographer
called Avery Crounse.
2228
01:46:02,686 --> 01:46:05,144
I don't believe he'd made
a feature film before this,
2229
01:46:05,168 --> 01:46:06,972
and he's only made
a couple since.
2230
01:46:06,996 --> 01:46:09,731
It is a very photogenic
folk horror movie
2231
01:46:09,755 --> 01:46:11,341
shot in the woods.
2232
01:46:16,755 --> 01:46:19,317
As opposed to the meat
and potato slasher stuff
2233
01:46:19,341 --> 01:46:21,903
of the 80s, there's a
lot of surreal imagery,
2234
01:46:21,927 --> 01:46:24,558
and surreal moments,
faces in trees,
2235
01:46:24,582 --> 01:46:27,007
just weird
hallucinogenic moments
2236
01:46:27,031 --> 01:46:29,179
that don't feel of a piece
with the 80s, necessarily,
2237
01:46:29,203 --> 01:46:31,237
which in itself
makes it exciting.
2238
01:46:35,410 --> 01:46:38,031
This is what makes it
really unique and stick out.
2239
01:46:44,996 --> 01:46:46,213
Folk horror is a
very broad subgenre,
2240
01:46:46,237 --> 01:46:48,869
but it had a real moment
in the 60s and 70s,
2241
01:46:48,893 --> 01:46:50,938
and was primarily
a British thing,
2242
01:46:50,962 --> 01:46:53,351
so the fact that you're
seeing a folk horror film,
2243
01:46:53,375 --> 01:46:56,213
A, in the 80s, and
B, set in America,
2244
01:46:56,237 --> 01:46:57,696
was a bit unusual.
2245
01:46:57,720 --> 01:47:01,076
It was independently
produced by Avery Crounse.
2246
01:47:01,100 --> 01:47:02,489
He basically moved on.
2247
01:47:02,513 --> 01:47:05,444
He didn't particularly connect
with the film industry.
2248
01:47:06,686 --> 01:47:08,593
We went to great
effort to find him
2249
01:47:08,617 --> 01:47:10,213
so that we could
include "Eyes of Fire"
2250
01:47:10,237 --> 01:47:13,076
in our All the Haunts Be
Ours folk horror box set.
2251
01:47:13,100 --> 01:47:15,524
He basically still
owned the movie.
2252
01:47:15,548 --> 01:47:18,144
He had the negative
in a storage unit,
2253
01:47:18,168 --> 01:47:20,593
and it had been sitting there
since the 80s, basically.
2254
01:47:20,617 --> 01:47:22,651
Had not been scanned since.
2255
01:47:23,824 --> 01:47:25,168
I can see again.
2256
01:47:27,237 --> 01:47:30,144
He sent it here so that
we could scan it here
2257
01:47:30,168 --> 01:47:33,317
at Severin office, and he
even had a previous version
2258
01:47:33,341 --> 01:47:35,558
called "Crying Blue
Sky", which was longer,
2259
01:47:35,582 --> 01:47:38,248
and we were able to scan that
and include that as well.
2260
01:47:38,272 --> 01:47:40,351
So the reason it had
been out of distribution
2261
01:47:40,375 --> 01:47:42,696
was just because he
was out of the business
2262
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:45,548
and had not been
traceable since.
2263
01:47:48,272 --> 01:47:49,489
Don't worry, my child.
2264
01:47:49,513 --> 01:47:51,893
Luckily we were able to get it.
2265
01:48:05,617 --> 01:48:06,455
"Boarding House".
2266
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:07,479
Rated R.
2267
01:48:08,651 --> 01:48:11,100
"Boarding House".
2268
01:48:17,134 --> 01:48:18,558
It was a movie
that didn't do well
2269
01:48:18,582 --> 01:48:21,627
that has gained a cult
following through the years.
2270
01:48:21,651 --> 01:48:25,248
John Wintergate, and
his wife Kalassu,
2271
01:48:25,272 --> 01:48:27,076
I believe they're
a little drunk,
2272
01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:29,558
and they watched a
horror film at home,
2273
01:48:29,582 --> 01:48:31,213
and they both have the idea
2274
01:48:31,237 --> 01:48:33,168
of we can do that.
2275
01:48:37,375 --> 01:48:40,213
An interview John
Wintergate was watching
2276
01:48:40,237 --> 01:48:44,489
where George Lucas stated
that video is the future.
2277
01:48:44,513 --> 01:48:47,834
He got this idea it was easy
to make a movie on video.
2278
01:48:47,858 --> 01:48:50,110
You buy a video camera
for a few hundred dollars,
2279
01:48:50,134 --> 01:48:52,662
and you buy some blank
tapes, and you shoot a movie.
2280
01:48:52,686 --> 01:48:54,110
What is that?
2281
01:48:54,134 --> 01:48:54,972
It's apple juice.
2282
01:48:54,996 --> 01:48:55,904
Oh my god.
2283
01:48:55,928 --> 01:48:57,076
You didn't have to say that.
2284
01:48:57,100 --> 01:48:58,765
They decided to
make a horror comedy.
2285
01:48:58,789 --> 01:49:02,306
They made the first big
shot on video movie.
2286
01:49:06,306 --> 01:49:07,455
But Wintergate and Kalassu
2287
01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:09,489
wrote, directed,
starred in this film,
2288
01:49:09,513 --> 01:49:10,869
did the music for it as well.
2289
01:49:10,893 --> 01:49:12,306
They were both musicians.
2290
01:49:14,479 --> 01:49:16,869
The husband and wife,
making something different.
2291
01:49:16,893 --> 01:49:18,524
When people watch the
movie, it's like wow,
2292
01:49:18,548 --> 01:49:19,731
this movie's crazy.
2293
01:49:19,755 --> 01:49:20,972
It's doing all these
sorts of things
2294
01:49:20,996 --> 01:49:21,904
that don't relate
to one another.
2295
01:49:21,928 --> 01:49:23,351
I'm preparing the Thorazine
2296
01:49:23,375 --> 01:49:25,524
for Mr. Ratchet's shock therapy.
2297
01:49:25,548 --> 01:49:27,007
Well, that's 'cause
it's heavily cut,
2298
01:49:27,031 --> 01:49:28,558
and that horror
comedy ended up being
2299
01:49:28,582 --> 01:49:30,144
two hours and 30 minutes long.
2300
01:49:30,168 --> 01:49:32,479
The distributors
did not like that.
2301
01:49:38,031 --> 01:49:40,076
They told to recut the
movie into what we got
2302
01:49:40,100 --> 01:49:41,800
with "Boarding House",
which is an hour and a half
2303
01:49:41,824 --> 01:49:44,100
of a crazy, bizarre movie.
2304
01:49:46,444 --> 01:49:48,938
They cut out all the
comedy in the movie,
2305
01:49:48,962 --> 01:49:51,800
and tried to cut it as
a serious horror film.
2306
01:49:51,824 --> 01:49:54,731
I think that explains
a lot of the weirdness
2307
01:49:54,755 --> 01:49:55,903
in "Boarding House".
2308
01:49:55,927 --> 01:49:58,031
Watch.
2309
01:50:01,651 --> 01:50:04,765
This was the first,
and probably only,
2310
01:50:04,789 --> 01:50:06,731
wide release of a
shot on video movie
2311
01:50:06,755 --> 01:50:08,007
to screen and theaters,
2312
01:50:08,031 --> 01:50:10,007
because he blew up
35 millimeter prints,
2313
01:50:10,031 --> 01:50:12,272
which was very costly.
2314
01:50:15,686 --> 01:50:18,076
"Blood Cult" is
sometimes considered
2315
01:50:18,100 --> 01:50:21,593
the first shot on video
film, but it is not.
2316
01:50:21,617 --> 01:50:24,869
"Blood Cult" was the
first shot on video movie
2317
01:50:24,893 --> 01:50:27,317
made for the video
market on home video.
2318
01:50:27,341 --> 01:50:28,765
"Blood Cult".
2319
01:50:28,789 --> 01:50:31,617
The first movie made especially
for the home video market.
2320
01:50:33,100 --> 01:50:36,720
"Boarding House" paved
the way for shot on video.
2321
01:50:42,100 --> 01:50:44,938
Filmmakers took notice that
you could buy a video camera,
2322
01:50:44,962 --> 01:50:47,662
or borrow your parents',
because they probably have one,
2323
01:50:47,686 --> 01:50:49,869
and then start shooting
movies with your friends.
2324
01:50:49,893 --> 01:50:52,696
That kick started the
shot on video boom.
2325
01:50:52,720 --> 01:50:54,834
You are trespassing.
2326
01:50:54,858 --> 01:50:59,755
This is my house!
2327
01:51:09,479 --> 01:51:11,041
Throughout the
80s, Asia were making
2328
01:51:11,065 --> 01:51:13,076
all of these horror films
that didn't really get
2329
01:51:13,100 --> 01:51:15,489
much seen across the world,
2330
01:51:15,513 --> 01:51:17,903
but they were producing
some incredible stuff,
2331
01:51:17,927 --> 01:51:19,444
from interesting places.
2332
01:51:22,651 --> 01:51:25,179
I grew up in a half
Asian household.
2333
01:51:25,203 --> 01:51:27,386
My mum is from Philippines.
2334
01:51:27,410 --> 01:51:30,696
She made sure I was
aware that monsters
2335
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,306
and ghosts and
creatures are real.
2336
01:51:38,410 --> 01:51:41,582
Asian horror just really
gets under your skin.
2337
01:51:44,100 --> 01:51:46,834
The first time I was exposed
to Asian horror movies
2338
01:51:46,858 --> 01:51:51,317
was when the whole boom came
with "The Ring", "Ju-on".
2339
01:51:51,341 --> 01:51:52,593
"The Grudge".
2340
01:51:52,617 --> 01:51:54,696
That opened a whole
new world for me.
2341
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:58,306
I just thought, okay this is
the stuff of my nightmares.
2342
01:52:05,444 --> 01:52:10,213
I think that Japanese
people don't care as much
2343
01:52:10,237 --> 01:52:12,076
in the realism.
2344
01:52:12,100 --> 01:52:14,386
It's more deep symbolism,
2345
01:52:14,410 --> 01:52:19,076
and much more thought
out inner mental things,
2346
01:52:19,100 --> 01:52:22,065
rather than just the
coherent storytelling.
2347
01:52:23,065 --> 01:52:25,065
That is more important to me.
2348
01:52:28,100 --> 01:52:30,524
Their points of
reference for what's scary
2349
01:52:30,548 --> 01:52:32,041
are often very different.
2350
01:52:32,065 --> 01:52:33,593
A lot of western horror,
there's a Judeo-Christian
2351
01:52:33,617 --> 01:52:35,617
sort of root to it.
2352
01:52:36,858 --> 01:52:39,800
And their fears and
their preoccupations,
2353
01:52:39,824 --> 01:52:42,110
and their boogeymen come
from a different place.
2354
01:52:42,134 --> 01:52:44,179
And it's exciting to see
that cultural difference,
2355
01:52:44,203 --> 01:52:46,593
exciting to see
what scares people
2356
01:52:46,617 --> 01:52:48,065
in a culture that's
not your own.
2357
01:52:49,893 --> 01:52:51,869
I was very attracted
to the Asian flow
2358
01:52:51,893 --> 01:52:56,593
of movies coming in that
are about dreamscapes,
2359
01:52:56,617 --> 01:52:59,386
that are about ghosts,
anything like that,
2360
01:52:59,410 --> 01:53:02,593
that gets me off in a
way that is both scary
2361
01:53:02,617 --> 01:53:05,203
and not as uncomfortable
as seeing a lot of blood.
2362
01:53:07,789 --> 01:53:09,765
My favorite Japanese
horror movie from the 80s
2363
01:53:09,789 --> 01:53:13,627
by far is "Sweet Home"
because it's so, so, so nuts.
2364
01:53:13,651 --> 01:53:16,144
At the same time, Capcom
released a game version,
2365
01:53:16,168 --> 01:53:19,041
which is almost better
than the actual film.
2366
01:53:19,065 --> 01:53:22,455
It's also the influence for
"Resident Evil" as well.
2367
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:24,627
"Resident Evil".
2368
01:53:24,651 --> 01:53:27,800
So Kiyoshi Kurosawa, he's
the director of "Sweet Home".
2369
01:53:27,824 --> 01:53:29,524
And he went on to
do some of the best
2370
01:53:29,548 --> 01:53:32,351
Japanese horror
movies of the late 90s
2371
01:53:32,375 --> 01:53:33,903
and early 2000s.
2372
01:53:33,927 --> 01:53:35,731
If it wasn't for
him leading the way
2373
01:53:35,755 --> 01:53:38,076
making Japanese movies that
could potentially appeal
2374
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:40,213
to a Western audience,
you wouldn't have had
2375
01:53:40,237 --> 01:53:42,203
this J-horror explosion.
2376
01:53:45,479 --> 01:53:46,765
When you mention
80s Asian horror,
2377
01:53:46,889 --> 01:53:49,176
a lot of people think
of "House" from Japan,
2378
01:53:49,400 --> 01:53:51,986
although that one's from 1977.
2379
01:53:55,744 --> 01:53:57,272
If you watch Japanese horror,
2380
01:53:57,296 --> 01:53:59,789
if you watch something
from Thailand,
2381
01:53:59,813 --> 01:54:01,444
if you watch something
from South Korea,
2382
01:54:01,468 --> 01:54:03,479
you're going to get a
different experience
2383
01:54:03,503 --> 01:54:04,755
from each of those.
2384
01:54:04,779 --> 01:54:06,962
South Korea's horror
movement that happened
2385
01:54:06,986 --> 01:54:10,537
just after J-horror explosion
has been incredible.
2386
01:54:13,572 --> 01:54:16,341
South Korea, Indonesia,
and the Philippines
2387
01:54:16,365 --> 01:54:19,031
kind of came into their
own regarding horror
2388
01:54:19,055 --> 01:54:20,617
a little bit later.
2389
01:54:20,641 --> 01:54:23,203
In terms of horror that's
commercially viable
2390
01:54:23,227 --> 01:54:24,710
in the Western world.
2391
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:30,338
In the Philippines, there's
actually a lot of horror.
2392
01:54:30,462 --> 01:54:34,541
It's very sad that I can
not count on one hand
2393
01:54:34,565 --> 01:54:36,541
how many cross over to America.
2394
01:54:36,565 --> 01:54:38,748
One of the best
places for Asian horror,
2395
01:54:38,772 --> 01:54:41,062
especially out of
the 80s, was China.
2396
01:54:43,979 --> 01:54:46,576
A lot of it was based
on the mythology.
2397
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:49,955
We see demons, vampires,
ghosts, poltergeists,
2398
01:54:49,979 --> 01:54:52,910
a lot of witches, a
lot of wizards as well.
2399
01:54:56,013 --> 01:54:58,093
Some movies you should
definitely check out
2400
01:54:58,117 --> 01:55:00,886
are "Kung Fu Zombie",
"Human Lanterns",
2401
01:55:00,910 --> 01:55:03,713
"Seeding of a Ghost",
and "Witch from Nepal"
2402
01:55:03,737 --> 01:55:05,358
with Chow Yun-Fat.
2403
01:55:09,772 --> 01:55:11,989
We know the Shaw
Brothers and Golden Harvest
2404
01:55:12,013 --> 01:55:15,058
as the purveyors of incredible
martial arts movies,
2405
01:55:15,082 --> 01:55:19,462
but they also dip their toe
in a lot of horror as well.
2406
01:55:23,531 --> 01:55:24,644
Asian horror cinema,
2407
01:55:24,668 --> 01:55:26,496
I like vampire movies for that.
2408
01:55:28,875 --> 01:55:32,875
Scary things that there is a
story of how they got scary.
2409
01:55:36,220 --> 01:55:37,507
The way they
present their monsters
2410
01:55:37,531 --> 01:55:39,886
is just so
fundamentally different
2411
01:55:39,910 --> 01:55:43,369
than how the Western
stereotype of a vampire
2412
01:55:43,393 --> 01:55:45,600
is just completely blown
up in an Asian film.
2413
01:55:47,048 --> 01:55:50,024
I'm completely obsessed
by the "Mr. Vampire" movies.
2414
01:55:50,048 --> 01:55:53,403
I'd never seen Jiangshi
vampires before.
2415
01:55:53,427 --> 01:55:56,713
I was mesmerized by
how comedic they were.
2416
01:55:56,737 --> 01:55:57,979
They hop.
2417
01:56:01,841 --> 01:56:03,231
When you watch "Mr. Vampire",
2418
01:56:03,255 --> 01:56:05,127
you see why people
are scared of them,
2419
01:56:05,151 --> 01:56:06,782
because they are relentless,
2420
01:56:06,806 --> 01:56:08,576
and you have to know
all of the tricks
2421
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:09,600
in order to defeat them.
2422
01:56:12,841 --> 01:56:15,186
"The Jitters" is
an unusual film.
2423
01:56:19,358 --> 01:56:21,989
Plus "The Jitters" was
directed by John Fasano
2424
01:56:22,013 --> 01:56:23,265
and not a Chinese guy.
2425
01:56:23,289 --> 01:56:25,058
There's a little bit
lost in translation.
2426
01:56:25,082 --> 01:56:27,438
It played fast and loose
with Chinese mythology
2427
01:56:27,462 --> 01:56:28,462
quite a lot.
2428
01:56:29,462 --> 01:56:32,403
Someone thought that
since they're so popular
2429
01:56:32,427 --> 01:56:35,024
over there, we'd make
an American version
2430
01:56:35,048 --> 01:56:38,220
of these movies, and
see how that does.
2431
01:56:39,048 --> 01:56:40,300
I got him!
2432
01:56:40,324 --> 01:56:41,748
I'm uncomfortable
with the movie now,
2433
01:56:41,772 --> 01:56:46,082
because there's a lot of
racial stereotypes in there,
2434
01:56:47,462 --> 01:56:49,679
at the time, I didn't
really think was a big deal,
2435
01:56:49,703 --> 01:56:51,013
but it is.
2436
01:56:57,841 --> 01:56:59,644
Understanding horror
explored through the lens
2437
01:56:59,668 --> 01:57:01,748
of other cultures, it's
an important thing,
2438
01:57:01,772 --> 01:57:03,300
and it's a cool thing.
2439
01:57:03,324 --> 01:57:05,093
Different cultures have
all these different kinds
2440
01:57:05,117 --> 01:57:07,369
of mythologies to draw from,
2441
01:57:07,393 --> 01:57:10,265
and there's just this
endless well of stories
2442
01:57:10,289 --> 01:57:11,531
that we can build upon.
2443
01:57:13,220 --> 01:57:16,024
When you're talking
about Asian horror now,
2444
01:57:16,048 --> 01:57:18,713
people are looking at it
from a broader perspective
2445
01:57:18,737 --> 01:57:21,920
because they've been able
to watch these movies.
2446
01:57:21,944 --> 01:57:25,334
Whereas in the 80s, a lot
of them were available,
2447
01:57:25,358 --> 01:57:29,151
but they just never really made
it outside of their markets.
2448
01:57:31,117 --> 01:57:32,748
Asian horror was
somewhat inaccessible
2449
01:57:32,772 --> 01:57:33,989
to a lot of us in the 80s.
2450
01:57:34,013 --> 01:57:35,438
Video stores didn't
carry a lot of it,
2451
01:57:35,462 --> 01:57:38,472
and it's only after J-horror
came up after the fact
2452
01:57:38,496 --> 01:57:40,610
that then suddenly we're
retroactively going back
2453
01:57:40,634 --> 01:57:42,438
into these catalogs and
finding these titles
2454
01:57:42,462 --> 01:57:45,117
that were not on our
radar in the 80s.
2455
01:57:47,737 --> 01:57:49,162
In a way that's kind of cool,
2456
01:57:49,186 --> 01:57:51,334
because then that's a
bucket of 80s horror
2457
01:57:51,358 --> 01:57:53,600
that we can go back
and look for now.
2458
01:58:07,496 --> 01:58:11,462
School was
hell, but vacation was murder.
2459
01:58:13,255 --> 01:58:14,472
"The Mutilator".
2460
01:58:14,496 --> 01:58:16,403
It was originally
titled "Fall Break",
2461
01:58:16,427 --> 01:58:19,438
but the filmmakers apparently
felt "The Mutilator"
2462
01:58:19,462 --> 01:58:21,989
was a much more
user friendly title.
2463
01:58:22,013 --> 01:58:25,231
Four days of R
and R at the beach.
2464
01:58:25,255 --> 01:58:26,059
I'm in.
2465
01:58:26,083 --> 01:58:27,231
Sounds good to me.
2466
01:58:27,255 --> 01:58:28,989
I got a bad feeling about this.
2467
01:58:29,013 --> 01:58:30,507
College kids on
their fall break,
2468
01:58:30,531 --> 01:58:33,196
and they get picked
off one by one.
2469
01:58:33,220 --> 01:58:38,151
I'm coming to get you!
2470
01:58:40,427 --> 01:58:43,610
By different use of power tools,
2471
01:58:43,634 --> 01:58:45,703
and home repair tools.
2472
01:58:47,910 --> 01:58:50,231
One of the friends,
his dad hates him
2473
01:58:50,255 --> 01:58:52,703
because he blames him for
the death of his mother.
2474
01:58:56,289 --> 01:58:58,679
Just like this angry
dad who hates his son
2475
01:58:58,703 --> 01:59:01,358
and is gonna take it out
on him and his friends.
2476
01:59:07,117 --> 01:59:08,679
"The Mutilator" is
one of those that tries
2477
01:59:08,703 --> 01:59:11,576
to present as a comedy,
but isn't sure it wants
2478
01:59:11,600 --> 01:59:13,265
to be a comedy,
and you're not sure
2479
01:59:13,289 --> 01:59:15,541
if you're supposed to be
laughing at a lot of it.
2480
01:59:15,565 --> 01:59:17,334
Looks like the party's
over for this joker.
2481
01:59:17,358 --> 01:59:19,507
Oh.
2482
01:59:19,531 --> 01:59:20,679
Yeah.
2483
01:59:20,703 --> 01:59:22,369
My dad ran over him
with a ski boat.
2484
01:59:22,393 --> 01:59:24,093
It's dancing to the
beat of its own drum.
2485
01:59:24,117 --> 01:59:25,610
What's wrong with the water?
2486
01:59:25,634 --> 01:59:28,196
It looks like it's been
loaded down with chlorine.
2487
01:59:28,220 --> 01:59:29,955
Will that hurt you?
2488
01:59:29,979 --> 01:59:32,196
No, in fact it
probably prevents herpes.
2489
01:59:32,220 --> 01:59:34,886
The art for "The
Mutilator" has this tagline
2490
01:59:34,910 --> 01:59:39,910
that says by sword, by
pick, by ax, bye-bye.
2491
01:59:40,772 --> 01:59:42,886
Catchy title, catchy tagline,
2492
01:59:42,910 --> 01:59:44,703
and some eye-grabbing art.
2493
01:59:45,875 --> 01:59:48,610
The more extreme the
exploitation level is,
2494
01:59:48,634 --> 01:59:50,507
the more likely a teen
is gonna rent that.
2495
01:59:50,531 --> 01:59:52,186
And that's the idea.
2496
01:59:56,531 --> 01:59:57,644
And that's why we
love these movies
2497
01:59:57,668 --> 01:59:59,082
so much to this day.
2498
02:00:12,496 --> 02:00:14,886
My first film in America,
2499
02:00:14,910 --> 02:00:17,989
which is absolutely adored
doing, was "Maniac",
2500
02:00:18,013 --> 02:00:21,886
and I got to work with my
lovely Joe Spinell again,
2501
02:00:21,910 --> 02:00:25,186
who I first met in "Star Crash".
2502
02:00:28,151 --> 02:00:30,507
People connect with Joe Spinell.
2503
02:00:30,531 --> 02:00:33,013
He is a compelling
actor to watch.
2504
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:36,058
I loved working with
Joe because he was
2505
02:00:36,082 --> 02:00:40,220
such a brilliant actor,
and a sweet, dear person.
2506
02:00:42,289 --> 02:00:45,507
"The Last Horror Film" is
about New York cab driver
2507
02:00:45,531 --> 02:00:48,162
who's obsessed with
Caroline Munroe,
2508
02:00:48,186 --> 02:00:50,507
and he follows her to
the Cannes Film Festival
2509
02:00:50,531 --> 02:00:53,324
where a serial killer
is on the loose.
2510
02:00:57,393 --> 02:00:59,127
It was called "The
Last Horror Film",
2511
02:00:59,151 --> 02:01:01,462
and then they called it
"Fanatic" after that.
2512
02:01:02,772 --> 02:01:05,713
This film was an unofficial
followup to "Maniac".
2513
02:01:05,737 --> 02:01:06,955
I got talent, ma!
2514
02:01:06,979 --> 02:01:08,507
I'm gonna be a great
director someday!
2515
02:01:08,531 --> 02:01:09,782
Don't yell at your mother!
2516
02:01:09,806 --> 02:01:11,576
It's great to see Joe Spinell
2517
02:01:11,600 --> 02:01:13,162
and Caroline Munroe together,
2518
02:01:13,186 --> 02:01:15,048
and I think the
pairing is fantastic.
2519
02:01:16,151 --> 02:01:17,196
Who is it?
2520
02:01:17,220 --> 02:01:18,403
We were an odd couple.
2521
02:01:18,427 --> 02:01:19,782
We were, weren't we?
2522
02:01:19,806 --> 02:01:21,817
Jana Bates is going to
star in my next movie.
2523
02:01:21,841 --> 02:01:22,749
It's all set.
2524
02:01:22,773 --> 02:01:24,162
I'm producing and directing.
2525
02:01:24,186 --> 02:01:26,369
Vinny, are you sure
you're making a movie?
2526
02:01:26,393 --> 02:01:28,403
He was wonderful in that film.
2527
02:01:28,427 --> 02:01:30,851
Very quirky, very quirky.
2528
02:01:30,875 --> 02:01:34,196
And my character, she
was spooked by Joe,
2529
02:01:34,220 --> 02:01:37,644
because Joe had an obsession
for this actress, Jana Bates.
2530
02:01:37,668 --> 02:01:39,644
Who are you?
2531
02:01:39,668 --> 02:01:40,886
Get out.
2532
02:01:40,910 --> 02:01:41,989
I thought we'd just have a drink
2533
02:01:42,013 --> 02:01:43,162
and talk about the film.
2534
02:01:43,186 --> 02:01:44,955
You'll be absolutely
perfect in it.
2535
02:01:44,979 --> 02:01:46,679
It was directed
by David Winters,
2536
02:01:46,703 --> 02:01:48,196
who was in "West Side Story",
2537
02:01:48,220 --> 02:01:50,403
and sure enough, they
just showed up in Cannes,
2538
02:01:50,427 --> 02:01:52,196
and started shooting this movie,
2539
02:01:52,220 --> 02:01:54,576
so there's a lot of
run and gun footage
2540
02:01:54,600 --> 02:01:56,713
of the Cannes Film Festival.
2541
02:01:56,737 --> 02:01:58,369
One of the first guerrilla films
2542
02:01:58,393 --> 02:01:59,955
to be made there, for sure.
2543
02:01:59,979 --> 02:02:03,507
And I had to run along
the Croisette in a towel.
2544
02:02:03,531 --> 02:02:06,196
They were all lined
up, real people,
2545
02:02:06,220 --> 02:02:09,576
to see Jack Nicholson,
Leslie Caron,
2546
02:02:09,600 --> 02:02:11,334
go on the red carpet.
2547
02:02:11,358 --> 02:02:12,851
They said Caroline, you're
just gonna have to run
2548
02:02:12,875 --> 02:02:14,093
along the red carpet.
2549
02:02:14,117 --> 02:02:15,610
I said what, I've
got a towel on.
2550
02:02:15,634 --> 02:02:18,496
They said that's okay,
just do your own thing.
2551
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:21,748
Please!
2552
02:02:21,772 --> 02:02:23,576
Hot damn, that's Jana Bates!
2553
02:02:23,600 --> 02:02:26,541
"The Last Horror Film"
is not as gory as "Maniac"
2554
02:02:26,565 --> 02:02:29,220
but it does have a good
amount of kills in it.
2555
02:02:32,082 --> 02:02:34,082
There's a lot of meta elements.
2556
02:02:35,496 --> 02:02:37,369
There's one bit where
Joe Spinell's in a cinema
2557
02:02:37,393 --> 02:02:39,472
watching a new horror movie,
2558
02:02:39,496 --> 02:02:41,093
and he actually is
eating his popcorn,
2559
02:02:41,117 --> 02:02:42,265
and starts throwing up
2560
02:02:42,289 --> 02:02:44,600
because it's too
gross, too disgusting.
2561
02:02:47,324 --> 02:02:48,782
It's questioning horror movies
2562
02:02:48,806 --> 02:02:51,093
because "Maniac" got
a lot of backlash
2563
02:02:51,117 --> 02:02:53,265
because of how
misogynistic it was.
2564
02:02:53,289 --> 02:02:56,334
Now tell us why you're
such a failure, Vinny.
2565
02:02:56,358 --> 02:02:57,817
I'm a genius.
2566
02:02:57,841 --> 02:02:59,713
Jana Bates is going
to star in my movie.
2567
02:02:59,737 --> 02:03:00,817
She loves me!
2568
02:03:00,841 --> 02:03:02,610
It's a very bizarre film.
2569
02:03:02,634 --> 02:03:05,231
So I would think
the ultimate theme
2570
02:03:05,255 --> 02:03:07,541
for "The Last Horror
Film" or "The Fanatic"
2571
02:03:07,565 --> 02:03:09,265
would have to be obsession.
2572
02:03:09,289 --> 02:03:10,094
Obsessive love.
2573
02:03:10,118 --> 02:03:11,369
He loved her.
2574
02:03:11,393 --> 02:03:14,162
Or he loved what he
saw of her onscreen.
2575
02:03:14,186 --> 02:03:15,886
But he didn't know her.
2576
02:03:15,910 --> 02:03:17,710
Could you move your
head a little to the right
2577
02:03:18,289 --> 02:03:19,462
in this space?
2578
02:03:21,393 --> 02:03:23,117
Perfect, just perfect.
2579
02:03:28,462 --> 02:03:29,644
I always think it's
really interesting
2580
02:03:29,668 --> 02:03:32,576
when the protagonist
of a horror film,
2581
02:03:32,600 --> 02:03:34,989
especially in this
period, is a guy,
2582
02:03:35,013 --> 02:03:37,300
because usually we
associate the 80s
2583
02:03:37,324 --> 02:03:41,737
as the time where final
girls came into full force.
2584
02:03:44,841 --> 02:03:46,679
"Mutant".
2585
02:03:46,703 --> 02:03:48,093
"Mutant", originally released
2586
02:03:48,117 --> 02:03:50,334
as "Night Shadows" theatrically.
2587
02:03:50,358 --> 02:03:53,334
It turned up on VHS as "Mutant".
2588
02:03:53,358 --> 02:03:56,644
The two very capable
leads are Wings Hauser
2589
02:03:56,668 --> 02:03:58,162
and Lee Montgomery.
2590
02:03:58,286 --> 02:04:00,917
Our car broke down and we
just need a place to stay.
2591
02:04:01,041 --> 02:04:02,948
We'll be gone first thing
in the morning, I promise.
2592
02:04:03,072 --> 02:04:05,324
They end up in a dead end town
2593
02:04:05,348 --> 02:04:07,520
because their car messed up.
2594
02:04:09,279 --> 02:04:10,600
They go to the local bar,
2595
02:04:10,624 --> 02:04:12,979
and instantly these
locals beat them up,
2596
02:04:13,003 --> 02:04:14,255
rough them up.
2597
02:04:14,279 --> 02:04:15,796
Oh no!
2598
02:04:17,279 --> 02:04:19,876
They end up being patched
up by the local doctor.
2599
02:04:19,900 --> 02:04:21,979
And they start to get
their first inklings
2600
02:04:22,003 --> 02:04:23,531
that something is
wrong in this town,
2601
02:04:23,555 --> 02:04:25,393
that people are going missing.
2602
02:04:25,417 --> 02:04:28,358
This is toxic waste
infecting a small community
2603
02:04:28,382 --> 02:04:31,037
and turning them into zombies.
2604
02:04:32,279 --> 02:04:33,807
This mutation somehow causes
2605
02:04:33,831 --> 02:04:35,417
an increasing need for blood.
2606
02:04:37,382 --> 02:04:38,910
Just so many zombies.
2607
02:04:38,934 --> 02:04:40,555
They're all over the place.
2608
02:04:44,313 --> 02:04:46,486
It was obviously
inspired by George Romero.
2609
02:04:49,244 --> 02:04:50,496
And you see this
in a lot of films,
2610
02:04:50,520 --> 02:04:51,703
like "Return of
the Living Dead",
2611
02:04:51,727 --> 02:04:53,220
and you see it in a
lot of the Troma films.
2612
02:04:53,244 --> 02:04:55,727
Toxic waste was a
big thing in the 80s.
2613
02:04:58,624 --> 02:05:00,876
I like my zombies to be serious.
2614
02:05:00,900 --> 02:05:02,944
They definitely got
the vibe of what made
2615
02:05:02,968 --> 02:05:04,555
those movies so much fun.
2616
02:05:06,313 --> 02:05:07,841
No!
2617
02:05:07,865 --> 02:05:09,186
The effects are kind of hokey,
2618
02:05:09,210 --> 02:05:11,427
because when these
zombies approach you,
2619
02:05:11,451 --> 02:05:13,703
and they touch you, which
ultimately turns you
2620
02:05:13,727 --> 02:05:16,910
into a zombie, all this
steam comes off you,
2621
02:05:16,934 --> 02:05:19,220
almost like they're
pressing a shirt,
2622
02:05:19,244 --> 02:05:20,934
like a big life sized iron.
2623
02:05:25,037 --> 02:05:26,358
Jack?
2624
02:05:26,382 --> 02:05:27,807
But there's one
real cool sequence
2625
02:05:27,831 --> 02:05:29,496
where you just know
there's gonna be a zombie.
2626
02:05:29,520 --> 02:05:30,738
You just know it.
2627
02:05:30,762 --> 02:05:32,807
And then she slowly
goes over to him,
2628
02:05:32,831 --> 02:05:35,106
slowly pulls out the covers.
2629
02:05:37,762 --> 02:05:41,141
These locals just inherently
hate other people.
2630
02:05:44,210 --> 02:05:46,807
Some secrets should
remain secret,
2631
02:05:46,831 --> 02:05:48,910
and the way you do
that is by keeping
2632
02:05:48,934 --> 02:05:50,934
all the outsiders away.
2633
02:06:06,589 --> 02:06:09,807
"The New York Ripper"
is a very violent giallo
2634
02:06:09,831 --> 02:06:12,565
made by Lucio Fulci
after he'd already made
2635
02:06:12,589 --> 02:06:14,186
"Zombie Flesh
Eaters", "The Beyond",
2636
02:06:14,210 --> 02:06:15,876
and "House by the Cemetery".
2637
02:06:15,900 --> 02:06:18,358
Fulci was kind of riding
high at this point
2638
02:06:18,382 --> 02:06:19,565
in his career.
2639
02:06:19,589 --> 02:06:21,876
"Zombie" was a huge
success internationally
2640
02:06:21,900 --> 02:06:24,772
by the standards of Italian
exploitation movies.
2641
02:06:24,796 --> 02:06:27,451
He went on and decided
to make a thriller.
2642
02:06:28,520 --> 02:06:30,693
About a ripper in New York.
2643
02:06:32,693 --> 02:06:35,427
During this time, a lot
of Italian filmmakers
2644
02:06:35,451 --> 02:06:39,565
would come to the US and
shoot establishing footage,
2645
02:06:39,589 --> 02:06:42,289
and that's all tied into
how Italian filmmakers
2646
02:06:42,313 --> 02:06:45,451
were trying to make their
films seem American.
2647
02:06:49,037 --> 02:06:51,565
The killer in the
film has a Donald Duck
2648
02:06:51,589 --> 02:06:53,600
kind of quacking voice.
2649
02:06:53,624 --> 02:06:55,082
Said he called back.
2650
02:06:55,106 --> 02:06:56,796
Sounded just like a duck.
2651
02:06:59,072 --> 02:07:00,289
Like a duck?
2652
02:07:00,313 --> 02:07:02,255
Which adds to the
element of the bizarre
2653
02:07:02,279 --> 02:07:05,082
of this movie, and I
think it shows Fulci's
2654
02:07:05,106 --> 02:07:07,037
sense of humor as well.
2655
02:07:09,968 --> 02:07:12,082
There's a fair amount
of sleaze in the movie
2656
02:07:12,106 --> 02:07:13,693
as well, and nudity.
2657
02:07:17,555 --> 02:07:20,151
There's a very famous
sequence in the film
2658
02:07:20,175 --> 02:07:22,082
where an actress
is tied to a bed,
2659
02:07:22,106 --> 02:07:24,082
and essentially
gets razor bladed
2660
02:07:24,106 --> 02:07:25,876
in the eye and in the nipple,
2661
02:07:25,900 --> 02:07:29,151
and it's extremely
graphic and close up,
2662
02:07:29,175 --> 02:07:31,358
but it has that ocular violence
2663
02:07:31,382 --> 02:07:33,117
that Fulci had
become famous for,
2664
02:07:33,141 --> 02:07:35,807
and he was trying
to outdo, it seems,
2665
02:07:35,831 --> 02:07:37,772
in every movie that he did.
2666
02:07:37,796 --> 02:07:39,600
It definitely pushed
the boundaries
2667
02:07:39,624 --> 02:07:41,289
of what was acceptable.
2668
02:07:41,313 --> 02:07:43,565
This film made sure
that in England,
2669
02:07:43,589 --> 02:07:45,048
if you were found with a copy,
2670
02:07:45,072 --> 02:07:46,531
you were definitely
having it seized,
2671
02:07:46,555 --> 02:07:48,279
and you would
probably be arrested.
2672
02:07:49,348 --> 02:07:50,325
Like a duck?
2673
02:07:50,349 --> 02:07:51,427
Quack, quack, quack.
2674
02:07:51,451 --> 02:07:52,693
Just like that.
2675
02:07:59,106 --> 02:08:00,486
"The Initiation".
2676
02:08:01,727 --> 02:08:03,117
The ceremony that
will never die,
2677
02:08:03,141 --> 02:08:05,600
as long as new blood is pledged.
2678
02:08:05,624 --> 02:08:07,876
I rented that movie
the very first time,
2679
02:08:07,900 --> 02:08:11,496
because I loved Daphne
Zuniga in "Spaceballs",
2680
02:08:11,520 --> 02:08:13,358
and it was right when
Melrose Place was hitting.
2681
02:08:13,382 --> 02:08:15,841
And we've got a
girl in a sorority,
2682
02:08:15,865 --> 02:08:18,175
she's being hazed.
2683
02:08:20,658 --> 02:08:23,082
Her character, Kelly, is
having these nightmares,
2684
02:08:23,106 --> 02:08:25,117
so she actually goes
through a sleep study
2685
02:08:25,141 --> 02:08:26,324
trying to figure out the reason
2686
02:08:26,348 --> 02:08:27,565
behind her nightmares.
2687
02:08:27,589 --> 02:08:29,634
It's fairly common for
the subconscious mind
2688
02:08:29,658 --> 02:08:32,393
to fictionalize certain
emotional states.
2689
02:08:32,817 --> 02:08:35,000
There's a woman
committing adultery
2690
02:08:35,024 --> 02:08:36,276
with another guy.
2691
02:08:36,300 --> 02:08:38,310
A little girl comes
in and catches them,
2692
02:08:38,334 --> 02:08:40,241
starts stabbing the
crap out of somebody,
2693
02:08:40,265 --> 02:08:42,103
and then the guy goes on fire,
2694
02:08:42,127 --> 02:08:44,379
and she can't
remember what happens.
2695
02:08:44,403 --> 02:08:46,103
I was in a coma
for three months,
2696
02:08:46,127 --> 02:08:47,965
and they kept me in this
private hospital in Chicago.
2697
02:08:47,989 --> 02:08:49,482
When I came out of
it, I had no memory.
2698
02:08:49,506 --> 02:08:51,758
Her father, who's
played by Clu Gulager,
2699
02:08:51,782 --> 02:08:54,172
owns this big shopping building,
2700
02:08:54,196 --> 02:08:56,862
and she's tasked
with breaking in
2701
02:08:56,886 --> 02:09:00,655
and stealing a night
porter's outfits.
2702
02:09:00,679 --> 02:09:03,506
Course, a lot of
bad things happen.
2703
02:09:09,713 --> 02:09:11,000
It is a movie that
takes a little time
2704
02:09:11,024 --> 02:09:13,000
to get going, but once
they get into that mall,
2705
02:09:13,024 --> 02:09:15,334
there's some really fun kills.
2706
02:09:19,679 --> 02:09:21,239
You're finding bodies
all over the place
2707
02:09:23,300 --> 02:09:26,093
The security guard is a bummer.
2708
02:09:30,506 --> 02:09:33,103
There's so many wacky out
there things in the 80s,
2709
02:09:33,127 --> 02:09:34,724
where I guess they
just tried things
2710
02:09:34,748 --> 02:09:36,265
more than we do now.
2711
02:09:37,403 --> 02:09:39,437
You know, it takes
some leaps and bounds.
2712
02:09:42,300 --> 02:09:45,034
Spoiler alert, there's
a twist at the end.
2713
02:09:45,058 --> 02:09:46,058
Peter!
2714
02:09:47,058 --> 02:09:48,827
And you're left
sitting there like,
2715
02:09:48,851 --> 02:09:51,231
wait, what is going on?
2716
02:09:53,093 --> 02:09:54,276
You have to rationalize
it to yourself
2717
02:09:54,300 --> 02:09:55,896
so that you can
move on and finish
2718
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:57,138
the rest of the movie.
2719
02:09:57,162 --> 02:09:59,379
It's a total shock at the end.
2720
02:09:59,403 --> 02:10:00,724
I've never seen
anything like that
2721
02:10:00,748 --> 02:10:01,965
before in my life.
2722
02:10:01,989 --> 02:10:03,379
The more I think about
it, the more I think
2723
02:10:03,403 --> 02:10:05,196
they just wanted
to blow our minds.
2724
02:10:10,713 --> 02:10:13,093
Scared the shit out of them!
2725
02:10:18,748 --> 02:10:21,413
The only reason that they
would set horror movies
2726
02:10:21,437 --> 02:10:25,000
on holidays is that they
had no marketing budget.
2727
02:10:25,024 --> 02:10:28,655
So it was a way to get
attention from the press.
2728
02:10:28,679 --> 02:10:30,620
Most decisions made in the 80s
2729
02:10:30,644 --> 02:10:32,724
were strictly
financial decisions.
2730
02:10:32,748 --> 02:10:34,310
A present from the people
2731
02:10:34,334 --> 02:10:36,586
who brought you
"Friday the 13th"
2732
02:10:36,610 --> 02:10:39,644
now comes "Don't
Open Till Christmas".
2733
02:10:41,265 --> 02:10:43,862
"Don't Open Till
Christmas" is a real curio,
2734
02:10:43,886 --> 02:10:45,758
a slasher film set in the UK
2735
02:10:45,782 --> 02:10:48,379
about a killer who goes around
2736
02:10:48,403 --> 02:10:50,575
killing people in Santa suits.
2737
02:10:56,679 --> 02:10:58,276
It's almost like
Fulci directed this.
2738
02:10:58,300 --> 02:10:59,827
It's so grimy and slimy,
2739
02:10:59,851 --> 02:11:02,069
and as soon as you step
foot into an alley,
2740
02:11:02,093 --> 02:11:03,127
you're dead meat.
2741
02:11:06,472 --> 02:11:09,931
The reason for the serial
killer killing Santa Claus
2742
02:11:09,955 --> 02:11:13,517
is obviously some trauma
from when he was a kid.
2743
02:11:13,541 --> 02:11:16,000
And you see this in a
flashback streaked dream,
2744
02:11:16,024 --> 02:11:17,793
and he's just been,
for all these years,
2745
02:11:17,817 --> 02:11:20,955
hellbent on getting
revenge on Santa.
2746
02:11:22,196 --> 02:11:24,793
The department store,
you have this big, fat,
2747
02:11:24,817 --> 02:11:26,931
Santa Claus guy,
who's going around
2748
02:11:26,955 --> 02:11:29,000
and leering at all the girls.
2749
02:11:29,024 --> 02:11:29,932
And as soon as he
gets to the toilets,
2750
02:11:29,956 --> 02:11:31,403
you know what's gonna happen.
2751
02:11:32,817 --> 02:11:34,886
And it's just blood
squirting everywhere.
2752
02:11:39,955 --> 02:11:41,644
He gets his apt punishment.
2753
02:11:43,300 --> 02:11:45,069
Caroline Munroe turns
up in this film as well,
2754
02:11:45,093 --> 02:11:46,276
which was a surprise.
2755
02:11:46,300 --> 02:11:48,482
She's like a dancer in a club.
2756
02:11:48,506 --> 02:11:50,655
Man, that woman is beautiful.
2757
02:11:50,679 --> 02:11:53,334
If you blink, you're
gonna miss me in it.
2758
02:11:55,334 --> 02:11:57,034
George Dugdale, my husband,
2759
02:11:57,058 --> 02:12:00,276
he did the effects on
"Don't Open Till Christmas".
2760
02:12:00,300 --> 02:12:03,069
They got the Piccadilly
Theater in London.
2761
02:12:03,093 --> 02:12:05,241
I went in for about two hours,
2762
02:12:05,265 --> 02:12:08,207
on the thing, and I
wiggled about the stage,
2763
02:12:08,231 --> 02:12:10,138
and kind of sang
"Warrior of Love".
2764
02:12:10,162 --> 02:12:12,103
Basically, that's my bit in it.
2765
02:12:12,127 --> 02:12:14,448
โช I'm the warrior of love
2766
02:12:14,472 --> 02:12:16,207
โช Yes I am
2767
02:12:16,231 --> 02:12:18,276
Father Christmas appears,
and the trapdoor,
2768
02:12:18,300 --> 02:12:21,172
just as I'm mid-sing,
and so I react to him,
2769
02:12:21,196 --> 02:12:22,472
the Father Christmas dead.
2770
02:12:27,886 --> 02:12:30,103
Maybe they just needed
a bit of a filler.
2771
02:12:30,127 --> 02:12:32,586
Maybe they thought, oh we've
got five minutes to spare.
2772
02:12:32,610 --> 02:12:33,724
Bang her in.
2773
02:12:33,748 --> 02:12:35,437
โช Yeah, yeah, yeah
2774
02:12:37,300 --> 02:12:38,242
A lot of Santas
die in this film,
2775
02:12:38,266 --> 02:12:40,276
so if you are into horror movies
2776
02:12:40,300 --> 02:12:43,103
for the festive body count,
then this is the one.
2777
02:12:43,127 --> 02:12:44,851
There's a party going on!
2778
02:12:46,300 --> 02:12:48,058
Look, there's
no party here, mate.
2779
02:12:56,231 --> 02:12:58,896
I wasn't allowed to
watch horror movies
2780
02:12:58,920 --> 02:13:03,517
or sci-fi movies when
I was little.
2781
02:13:03,541 --> 02:13:06,207
Because I was too sensitive.
2782
02:13:06,231 --> 02:13:09,276
I was older when I
saw "The Exorcist".
2783
02:13:09,300 --> 02:13:12,758
That was the most frightening
movie I've ever seen.
2784
02:13:12,782 --> 02:13:14,758
I felt it could really happen.
2785
02:13:14,782 --> 02:13:17,344
This study of the human psyche
2786
02:13:17,368 --> 02:13:21,138
has always been
prevalent in my work,
2787
02:13:21,162 --> 02:13:23,196
and in why I want to work.
2788
02:13:25,300 --> 02:13:28,103
My whole method
is the less I know
2789
02:13:28,127 --> 02:13:32,886
what's gonna happen, the more
alive in the moment I am.
2790
02:13:34,300 --> 02:13:38,000
The most memorable scene
in "The Hills Have Eyes"
2791
02:13:38,024 --> 02:13:41,689
with Wes was when I had to
work with the tarantula.
2792
02:13:41,713 --> 02:13:44,965
They assured me that
it couldn't hurt me.
2793
02:13:44,989 --> 02:13:49,413
Afterwards, I found out that
oh yeah, it could've.
2794
02:13:49,437 --> 02:13:51,482
And I said Wes, I'm scared.
2795
02:13:51,506 --> 02:13:54,103
And he said, will you trust me,
2796
02:13:54,127 --> 02:13:57,586
that I will make sure
that everything is handled
2797
02:13:57,610 --> 02:13:58,679
so that you're safe?
2798
02:14:00,955 --> 02:14:02,724
And that's just who Wes was.
2799
02:14:02,748 --> 02:14:03,748
You did.
2800
02:14:06,093 --> 02:14:10,034
To me, "The Howling" was
the battle of good and evil,
2801
02:14:10,058 --> 02:14:12,586
which goes on within all of us.
2802
02:14:12,610 --> 02:14:15,758
There was so much
in "The Howling"
2803
02:14:15,782 --> 02:14:20,782
that elevated that film,
because of Joe Dante.
2804
02:14:21,989 --> 02:14:24,172
Joe brings more of who
he is into his films,
2805
02:14:24,196 --> 02:14:27,517
because Joe is very funny.
2806
02:14:27,541 --> 02:14:31,034
And he always finds a way
2807
02:14:31,058 --> 02:14:32,931
to bring that humor,
2808
02:14:33,055 --> 02:14:34,996
even if it's dark humor,
2809
02:14:35,120 --> 02:14:37,258
into his projects.
2810
02:14:41,293 --> 02:14:45,303
"Cujo" was always about
what a mother would do
2811
02:14:45,327 --> 02:14:46,476
for her child.
2812
02:14:46,500 --> 02:14:49,200
It was never a
horror film to me.
2813
02:14:49,224 --> 02:14:53,303
It was a statement of
how far a mother would go
2814
02:14:53,327 --> 02:14:55,407
to keep her kid safe.
2815
02:14:55,431 --> 02:14:58,086
It's not a monster,
it's just a doggie.
2816
02:15:00,155 --> 02:15:01,820
I've heard from so many people,
2817
02:15:01,844 --> 02:15:04,165
I watched it when I was younger,
2818
02:15:04,189 --> 02:15:05,372
and it was a horror film.
2819
02:15:05,396 --> 02:15:07,717
I watch it now
after I have kids,
2820
02:15:07,741 --> 02:15:10,810
it's a whole different film.
2821
02:15:14,155 --> 02:15:16,751
My father was a
severe alcoholic.
2822
02:15:16,775 --> 02:15:21,544
So for most practical
purposes, I had a single mom.
2823
02:15:21,568 --> 02:15:23,476
And she was a strong mom.
2824
02:15:23,500 --> 02:15:27,269
And I had a strong grandma
that helped raise me.
2825
02:15:27,293 --> 02:15:31,441
So I had some really
good personal material
2826
02:15:31,465 --> 02:15:32,810
to call on.
2827
02:15:37,396 --> 02:15:40,165
There were nine dogs
that played Cujo.
2828
02:15:40,189 --> 02:15:43,476
Two black labs that
could fit in a dog suit
2829
02:15:43,500 --> 02:15:47,120
if we needed it, and a
stuntman in the dog suit.
2830
02:15:49,051 --> 02:15:51,855
The dogs were all
trained to go after toys,
2831
02:15:51,879 --> 02:15:55,476
and we had to tie their
tails down with fish wire,
2832
02:15:55,500 --> 02:15:58,120
because they were
having so much fun.
2833
02:16:00,431 --> 02:16:04,027
Stephen King is the
sweetest, kinda shy,
2834
02:16:04,051 --> 02:16:06,200
very gentle man.
2835
02:16:06,224 --> 02:16:07,958
When he came on
the set of "Cujo",
2836
02:16:07,982 --> 02:16:12,579
I went, where does it come from?
2837
02:16:12,603 --> 02:16:14,500
And he just started laughing.
2838
02:16:16,431 --> 02:16:21,431
After "E.T.", I was
plagued with mother parts.
2839
02:16:22,603 --> 02:16:24,269
It's not that I don't
want to play mothers,
2840
02:16:24,293 --> 02:16:27,303
I just want to play everything.
2841
02:16:27,327 --> 02:16:30,303
Dear god, I probably
have 800 roles
2842
02:16:30,327 --> 02:16:31,613
of every kind of mom.
2843
02:16:31,637 --> 02:16:34,855
Psycho mom, sweet
mom, drugged mom,
2844
02:16:34,879 --> 02:16:37,613
killer mom, hooker mom.
2845
02:16:37,637 --> 02:16:38,672
Everything!
2846
02:16:40,534 --> 02:16:41,751
No!
2847
02:16:41,775 --> 02:16:46,396
No, no!
2848
02:16:47,775 --> 02:16:49,682
It was almost like poetry
to me, "Shadow Play".
2849
02:16:49,706 --> 02:16:53,224
And I wanted desperately to
work with Cloris Leachman.
2850
02:16:54,568 --> 02:16:59,568
I had to do that very
artsy dream nude scene,
2851
02:17:00,706 --> 02:17:02,266
and my husband was
not happy about that.
2852
02:17:03,465 --> 02:17:06,269
I don't think I've ever
told this story before.
2853
02:17:06,293 --> 02:17:07,706
He called me, and he said
2854
02:17:08,948 --> 02:17:10,924
if you do that scene tomorrow,
2855
02:17:10,948 --> 02:17:12,682
I think we're done.
2856
02:17:12,706 --> 02:17:17,027
I said Chris, don't make
me make that choice.
2857
02:17:17,051 --> 02:17:20,993
We got my therapist on
the phone at three a.m.
2858
02:17:21,017 --> 02:17:23,131
in the morning, and
we worked it out
2859
02:17:23,155 --> 02:17:26,200
that what was
really bothering him
2860
02:17:26,224 --> 02:17:29,407
was that he would have
to wait all those months
2861
02:17:29,431 --> 02:17:31,269
wondering what happened.
2862
02:17:31,293 --> 02:17:34,648
And if the director would
agree to show him the dailies,
2863
02:17:34,672 --> 02:17:35,855
he would be okay.
2864
02:17:35,879 --> 02:17:38,820
Now, this is pretty
funny coming from a guy
2865
02:17:38,844 --> 02:17:42,717
who had a huge naked love
scene in "The Howling",
2866
02:17:42,741 --> 02:17:45,372
and he expected me to
be just fine with it,
2867
02:17:45,396 --> 02:17:46,948
thank you very much.
2868
02:17:47,948 --> 02:17:49,096
But, you know.
2869
02:17:49,120 --> 02:17:52,844
That's a man for you.
2870
02:18:09,155 --> 02:18:10,476
Rubin Galindo Jr.
2871
02:18:10,500 --> 02:18:11,682
He's awesome!
2872
02:18:11,706 --> 02:18:14,372
Rubin has an amazing
lineup of movies,
2873
02:18:14,396 --> 02:18:16,637
and he really made
a stamp in the 80s.
2874
02:18:17,810 --> 02:18:21,775
Rubin,
2875
02:18:28,224 --> 02:18:31,096
The difference between
the Mexican horror films,
2876
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:32,717
and international horror films,
2877
02:18:32,741 --> 02:18:36,786
we like to mix a little
bit of spirituality,
2878
02:18:36,810 --> 02:18:39,889
and to let some
things to the unknown.
2879
02:18:39,913 --> 02:18:42,637
We don't tend to try to explain.
2880
02:18:45,017 --> 02:18:47,372
My dad did Luchador films,
2881
02:18:47,396 --> 02:18:48,751
with monsters films.
2882
02:18:48,775 --> 02:18:51,165
"El Santo Contra Los
Asesinos De Ostros Mundos".
2883
02:18:51,189 --> 02:18:54,741
The saint against killers
from other worlds.
2884
02:18:57,810 --> 02:18:59,431
It's beautiful.
2885
02:19:04,500 --> 02:19:05,958
Michael Jackson's "Thriller".
2886
02:19:05,982 --> 02:19:07,889
That struck me hard,
2887
02:19:07,913 --> 02:19:10,613
and then one day,
my dad told me,
2888
02:19:10,637 --> 02:19:12,372
would you think it's a good idea
2889
02:19:12,396 --> 02:19:14,682
to make a film like Michael
Jackson's "Thriller"?
2890
02:19:14,706 --> 02:19:15,717
I said, yes!
2891
02:19:15,741 --> 02:19:16,924
It's a great idea!
2892
02:19:16,948 --> 02:19:18,086
I wanna do that!
2893
02:19:22,810 --> 02:19:24,062
It's a bunch of teenagers,
2894
02:19:24,086 --> 02:19:25,786
they wanna have
fun in Halloween.
2895
02:19:25,810 --> 02:19:28,476
They go to the morgue,
they steal a corpse,
2896
02:19:28,500 --> 02:19:31,982
and they pretend to
do a demonic ritual.
2897
02:19:34,462 --> 02:19:37,186
They woke up the
demon inside, Devlon,
2898
02:19:38,700 --> 02:19:40,493
who was a killer.
2899
02:19:48,282 --> 02:19:51,638
And all of the sudden,
Michael Jackson's "Thriller".
2900
02:19:52,662 --> 02:19:54,600
Pops out of the tombs.
2901
02:19:56,634 --> 02:20:00,334
I felt very compromised
with the budget.
2902
02:20:00,358 --> 02:20:02,289
I had a hard time.
2903
02:20:04,772 --> 02:20:06,576
The lousiest effect of all
2904
02:20:06,600 --> 02:20:09,231
is when the guy that
was taking a leak,
2905
02:20:09,255 --> 02:20:12,438
Alonso Garcia, finds
the girl lying all dead
2906
02:20:12,462 --> 02:20:13,817
with blood all over her,
2907
02:20:13,841 --> 02:20:16,851
and then there is a flying ax
2908
02:20:16,875 --> 02:20:18,496
that hits him in the face.
2909
02:20:19,668 --> 02:20:23,472
You could see that the
ax had a metal pole.
2910
02:20:23,496 --> 02:20:25,576
I wasn't looking
through the camera,
2911
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:28,600
because I was playing the ax.
2912
02:20:30,186 --> 02:20:31,403
I think that's the charm.
2913
02:20:31,427 --> 02:20:34,093
It's kind of looking
at a kitsch art,
2914
02:20:34,117 --> 02:20:35,438
when you see a horror film
2915
02:20:35,462 --> 02:20:37,679
that was done with
such a low budget,
2916
02:20:37,703 --> 02:20:40,093
it's looking at like
an Ed Wood film.
2917
02:20:40,117 --> 02:20:41,782
The only guy that
believes in the film
2918
02:20:41,806 --> 02:20:44,944
is the director.
2919
02:20:54,841 --> 02:20:57,024
It's hard to say
what kind of influence
2920
02:20:57,048 --> 02:20:58,886
Stephen King had on movies,
2921
02:20:58,910 --> 02:21:01,507
because of so many
directors attempted
2922
02:21:01,531 --> 02:21:04,472
so many different kinds
of film, it's hard to say.
2923
02:21:04,496 --> 02:21:06,127
It depends on how
well done they are.
2924
02:21:06,151 --> 02:21:08,427
I know Stephen
King loves "Cujo".
2925
02:21:10,531 --> 02:21:13,600
Stephen King's "Cat's Eye".
2926
02:21:15,013 --> 02:21:17,093
Capitalizing on the
popularity of "Creepshow',
2927
02:21:17,117 --> 02:21:18,955
and Stephen King in general,
2928
02:21:18,979 --> 02:21:20,576
the studios decided
they should make
2929
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:22,541
another horror anthology,
2930
02:21:22,565 --> 02:21:25,369
and that's how we
got "Cat's Eye".
2931
02:21:25,393 --> 02:21:27,955
"Cat's Eye" is by Lewis Teague.
2932
02:21:27,979 --> 02:21:30,265
He'd done "Cujo" at the time.
2933
02:21:30,289 --> 02:21:32,851
It is also co-produced
by Milton Subotsky,
2934
02:21:32,875 --> 02:21:35,151
who was kind of the king
of anthology horror.
2935
02:21:36,565 --> 02:21:38,196
He's the guy who produced
Tales From the Crypt,
2936
02:21:38,220 --> 02:21:41,220
and Dr. Terror's House
of Horrors, and Asylum.
2937
02:21:42,358 --> 02:21:44,817
"Cat's Eye" is three stories,
2938
02:21:44,841 --> 02:21:46,507
two of which are taken
from Stephen King's
2939
02:21:46,531 --> 02:21:48,955
short story book, "Night Shift".
2940
02:21:48,979 --> 02:21:50,886
Watch for the "Cujo" and
"Christine" references
2941
02:21:50,910 --> 02:21:51,910
in the beginning.
2942
02:21:53,186 --> 02:21:55,334
The first segment is called
"Quitters Incorporated",
2943
02:21:55,358 --> 02:21:57,610
and it stars James Woods
as a guy who's trying
2944
02:21:57,634 --> 02:21:59,920
to quit smoking, and the
problem is what they do
2945
02:21:59,944 --> 02:22:03,737
to get you to quit smoking
is incredibly extreme.
2946
02:22:09,634 --> 02:22:11,610
The second segment
is "The Ledge".
2947
02:22:11,634 --> 02:22:13,093
This is about a rich guy played
2948
02:22:13,117 --> 02:22:14,162
by Kenneth McMillan,
2949
02:22:14,186 --> 02:22:15,679
who discovers that Robert Hayes
2950
02:22:15,703 --> 02:22:18,127
has been sleeping with his wife.
2951
02:22:18,151 --> 02:22:19,507
He tells him that if he makes it
2952
02:22:19,531 --> 02:22:21,989
all the way around the
building on this ledge,
2953
02:22:22,013 --> 02:22:24,438
that he can leave
and take his wife.
2954
02:22:24,462 --> 02:22:25,944
Boogie, boogie, boogie!
2955
02:22:27,737 --> 02:22:28,955
You bastard!
2956
02:22:28,979 --> 02:22:30,668
I just wanna keep
you on your toes!
2957
02:22:31,841 --> 02:22:33,058
The third story was more or less
2958
02:22:33,082 --> 02:22:34,920
how the whole thing came about.
2959
02:22:34,944 --> 02:22:38,093
Producer Dino De Laurentiis
contacted Stephen King
2960
02:22:38,117 --> 02:22:39,920
and told him he wanted
him to write a story
2961
02:22:39,944 --> 02:22:42,541
specifically for Drew Barrymore,
2962
02:22:42,565 --> 02:22:45,058
because they had just worked
together on "Firestarter".
2963
02:22:45,082 --> 02:22:47,576
He wrote the script
in less than 24 hours.
2964
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:51,576
Help me!
2965
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:54,576
The movie's tied together
with this cat, The General,
2966
02:22:54,600 --> 02:22:57,093
who's on his way to try
to protect Drew Barrymore
2967
02:22:57,117 --> 02:22:59,531
from a troll that's
living in her walls.
2968
02:23:04,427 --> 02:23:05,886
The troll's trying to
kill the little girl
2969
02:23:05,910 --> 02:23:08,255
by stealing her breath
while she sleeps.
2970
02:23:10,220 --> 02:23:12,265
Carlo Rambaldi
created the creature,
2971
02:23:12,289 --> 02:23:14,127
and it is very realistic.
2972
02:23:14,151 --> 02:23:17,369
The troll was a little
person in a suit.
2973
02:23:17,393 --> 02:23:20,231
They're doing puppetry, they're
doing forced perspective.
2974
02:23:20,255 --> 02:23:21,713
It's fantastic.
2975
02:23:21,737 --> 02:23:24,300
The movie actually is in the
Guinness Book of World Records
2976
02:23:24,324 --> 02:23:26,644
for making the
world's largest bed,
2977
02:23:26,668 --> 02:23:29,289
and the world's largest pillows.
2978
02:23:30,634 --> 02:23:32,576
I love how the record
player comes into play
2979
02:23:32,600 --> 02:23:34,300
with this segment.
2980
02:23:34,324 --> 02:23:35,910
Watch out!
2981
02:23:39,565 --> 02:23:41,058
Anthologies are
kinda hit or miss,
2982
02:23:41,082 --> 02:23:44,300
but with this, I think all
three segments are strong,
2983
02:23:44,324 --> 02:23:47,600
with the last one, "The
General", being the strongest.
2984
02:23:49,151 --> 02:23:51,886
Anytime you have a movie
where a cat is a hero,
2985
02:23:51,910 --> 02:23:53,289
I am in.
2986
02:24:07,806 --> 02:24:09,541
"Phenomena", from Dario Argento
2987
02:24:09,565 --> 02:24:13,093
is another sort of wildly
weird movie in itself.
2988
02:24:13,117 --> 02:24:14,576
When I first saw it,
I actually saw it
2989
02:24:14,600 --> 02:24:15,851
as "The Creepers" version.
2990
02:24:15,875 --> 02:24:17,989
There's actually three
versions of the film.
2991
02:24:18,013 --> 02:24:20,024
"Phenomena" follows
Jennifer Connelly,
2992
02:24:20,048 --> 02:24:22,334
who's a young student
studying abroad,
2993
02:24:22,358 --> 02:24:25,851
who basically has a
psychic connection
2994
02:24:25,875 --> 02:24:27,231
with bugs, of all things,
2995
02:24:27,255 --> 02:24:29,817
and she comes across
Donald Pleasant,
2996
02:24:29,841 --> 02:24:33,058
who's an entomologist
that works with bugs
2997
02:24:33,082 --> 02:24:35,541
in a means to help solve crimes.
2998
02:24:35,565 --> 02:24:38,334
It is just like, is Argento
kind of of woke up one day,
2999
02:24:38,358 --> 02:24:41,024
and was picking
motifs out of a hat,
3000
02:24:41,048 --> 02:24:42,472
and was like,
here's "Phenomena",
3001
02:24:42,496 --> 02:24:44,162
but yet somehow it all works,
3002
02:24:44,186 --> 02:24:45,782
and I think a lot
of credit is due
3003
02:24:45,806 --> 02:24:47,748
to Jennifer Connolly's
performance.
3004
02:24:47,772 --> 02:24:48,610
Don't touch it!
3005
02:24:48,634 --> 02:24:49,541
Stop yelling!
3006
02:24:49,565 --> 02:24:50,403
It's a bee!
3007
02:24:50,427 --> 02:24:51,232
I know.
3008
02:24:51,256 --> 02:24:53,231
It won't hurt me.
3009
02:24:53,255 --> 02:24:54,782
Insects never hurt me.
3010
02:24:54,806 --> 02:24:57,541
Donald Pleasant is
always a welcome addition
3011
02:24:57,565 --> 02:24:59,024
to any cast.
3012
02:24:59,048 --> 02:25:01,186
You're in a position to
do extraordinary things
3013
02:25:02,531 --> 02:25:03,955
with that gift of yours.
3014
02:25:03,979 --> 02:25:06,576
Daria Nicolodi, who had worked
so many times with Argento.
3015
02:25:06,600 --> 02:25:07,920
It's one of the first instances
3016
02:25:07,944 --> 02:25:10,438
I can remember her being
a villain in a movie.
3017
02:25:10,462 --> 02:25:12,668
And she's so great in it.
3018
02:25:17,289 --> 02:25:18,782
Inga is the chimpanzee,
3019
02:25:18,806 --> 02:25:21,955
who is the assistant to
McGreggor in the movie.
3020
02:25:21,979 --> 02:25:24,196
And she is a delight.
3021
02:25:24,220 --> 02:25:25,507
Early on in the
movie, there's a point
3022
02:25:25,531 --> 02:25:26,782
where she's playing
with a scalpel,
3023
02:25:26,806 --> 02:25:28,541
and he's like, Inga.
3024
02:25:28,565 --> 02:25:29,989
I don't want you ever,
3025
02:25:30,013 --> 02:25:33,289
I don't want you ever, ever
playing with this again.
3026
02:25:34,737 --> 02:25:36,817
That moment has a payoff
in the end that I won't ruin.
3027
02:25:36,841 --> 02:25:40,289
But Inga actually becomes your
favorite part of the movie.
3028
02:25:41,979 --> 02:25:43,541
The "Phenomena" soundtrack
is a lot of fun,
3029
02:25:43,565 --> 02:25:46,748
because it marries contemporary
music of that time,
3030
02:25:46,772 --> 02:25:48,472
especially heavy metal music,
3031
02:25:48,496 --> 02:25:52,013
with these traditional
score from Goblin.
3032
02:25:58,944 --> 02:26:00,817
It's really interesting
that it's specifically
3033
02:26:00,841 --> 02:26:05,127
in "Phenomena" that Argento
would use heavy metal music
3034
02:26:05,151 --> 02:26:10,151
in these weird ways that
shouldn't work, and yet it does.
3035
02:26:11,358 --> 02:26:12,886
โช The smell of
resigned leather โช
3036
02:26:12,910 --> 02:26:14,920
โช The sticky iron mask
3037
02:26:14,944 --> 02:26:16,162
โช As you cut and thrust
3038
02:26:16,186 --> 02:26:17,403
โช And parried at the fencing
3039
02:26:17,427 --> 02:26:19,265
Particularly during
the kill scenes.
3040
02:26:19,289 --> 02:26:21,093
It actually heightens
the tensions,
3041
02:26:21,117 --> 02:26:22,576
in those scenes in particular,
3042
02:26:22,600 --> 02:26:24,989
and makes them play in
a very different way
3043
02:26:25,013 --> 02:26:26,369
than I think you see
contemporary music
3044
02:26:26,393 --> 02:26:28,117
played in American horror.
3045
02:26:38,841 --> 02:26:40,300
What you love is the feeling
3046
02:26:40,324 --> 02:26:42,531
when you're stomping out life.
3047
02:26:43,737 --> 02:26:46,576
"The Doctor and the Devils".
3048
02:26:46,600 --> 02:26:47,989
"The Doctor and the Devils",
3049
02:26:48,013 --> 02:26:51,265
this is a classic British
Gothic horror story.
3050
02:26:51,289 --> 02:26:53,886
Quite lavish, quite
beautiful to look at.
3051
02:26:53,910 --> 02:26:58,058
What now would they be
doing for a living, lovey?
3052
02:26:58,082 --> 02:26:59,644
Grave robbers.
3053
02:26:59,668 --> 02:27:01,369
It's definitely one
that seems to be missed
3054
02:27:01,393 --> 02:27:03,610
off a lot of lists of
best British horror films.
3055
02:27:03,634 --> 02:27:04,955
Before we disturbed his sleep.
3056
02:27:04,979 --> 02:27:07,231
It's crawling with maggots.
3057
02:27:07,255 --> 02:27:09,093
I need fresh subjects.
3058
02:27:09,117 --> 02:27:10,679
Specimens that I can teach with.
3059
02:27:10,703 --> 02:27:12,920
This is, in fact, a decent movie
3060
02:27:12,944 --> 02:27:15,231
with a great cast,
and a good story.
3061
02:27:15,255 --> 02:27:16,565
And I believe that that end
3062
02:27:17,496 --> 02:27:19,600
justifies any means.
3063
02:27:22,220 --> 02:27:25,748
And it stars some amazing
British actors and actresses.
3064
02:27:25,772 --> 02:27:27,782
Dr. Rock needs fresh bodies.
3065
02:27:27,806 --> 02:27:28,817
Could we pay them, sir?
3066
02:27:28,841 --> 02:27:30,265
Only half.
3067
02:27:30,289 --> 02:27:33,369
Julien Sands, Jonathan
Pryce, Stephen Rea and Twiggy.
3068
02:27:33,393 --> 02:27:36,196
It was amazing to see
Timothy Dalton in it.
3069
02:27:36,220 --> 02:27:38,531
We're scientists, not moralists.
3070
02:27:39,393 --> 02:27:41,093
I need bodies.
3071
02:27:41,117 --> 02:27:42,541
They're not called
Burke and Hare,
3072
02:27:42,565 --> 02:27:44,365
but they're kind of
analogs of Burke and Hare.
3073
02:27:44,944 --> 02:27:46,955
Quiet as death tonight.
3074
02:27:46,979 --> 02:27:48,196
Praise be the Lord.
3075
02:27:48,220 --> 02:27:49,472
For those that don't
know, Burke and Hare
3076
02:27:49,496 --> 02:27:52,024
is the story of
two grave robbers
3077
02:27:52,048 --> 02:27:53,369
who used to steal dead bodies.
3078
02:27:53,393 --> 02:27:54,610
And it's a true story.
3079
02:27:54,634 --> 02:27:56,610
Steal dead bodies and
sell them for profit.
3080
02:27:56,634 --> 02:27:58,127
And when the dead
bodies run out,
3081
02:27:58,151 --> 02:28:00,576
they start killing
actual alive people,
3082
02:28:00,600 --> 02:28:02,162
and selling them on.
3083
02:28:02,186 --> 02:28:04,600
Quite the benefactors, the dead.
3084
02:28:06,013 --> 02:28:08,507
Their story kind of spins
out on the head a little bit.
3085
02:28:08,531 --> 02:28:10,851
Put them out of their
misery, Mr. Fallon!
3086
02:28:10,875 --> 02:28:12,369
That's what the
major said to me.
3087
02:28:12,393 --> 02:28:14,438
Pryce, quite unhinged in
the characters he does play,
3088
02:28:14,462 --> 02:28:16,472
and he looks evil, as well.
3089
02:28:16,496 --> 02:28:17,496
Fresh, Broom.
3090
02:28:18,324 --> 02:28:19,634
Fresh as new moon here.
3091
02:28:20,979 --> 02:28:23,058
This film was directed
by Freddie Francis,
3092
02:28:23,082 --> 02:28:25,093
who you may know made his start
3093
02:28:25,117 --> 02:28:26,955
with Amicus and Hammer,
3094
02:28:26,979 --> 02:28:29,576
doing some great
Gothic horror for them.
3095
02:28:29,600 --> 02:28:31,334
And this is kind of a
continuation of that.
3096
02:28:31,358 --> 02:28:33,300
And you can see a lot
of the things he learned
3097
02:28:33,324 --> 02:28:34,713
with Amicus and Hammer,
3098
02:28:34,737 --> 02:28:38,265
the kind of level of detail
in the period pieces,
3099
02:28:38,289 --> 02:28:40,541
in the architecture,
in the costumes.
3100
02:28:40,565 --> 02:28:41,989
And that kind of Gothic horror,
3101
02:28:42,013 --> 02:28:44,886
where you don't necessarily
need to see the killing.
3102
02:28:44,910 --> 02:28:47,955
Fresh bodies, fresh
bodies, fresh bodies.
3103
02:28:47,979 --> 02:28:49,817
You may just see a
shadow on the wall,
3104
02:28:49,841 --> 02:28:52,058
or the aftermath, just
that beautiful girl's
3105
02:28:52,082 --> 02:28:53,082
blood on her mouth.
3106
02:28:54,875 --> 02:28:56,782
The ultimate message in
"The Doctor and the Devils"
3107
02:28:56,806 --> 02:28:59,058
is if you want something
done, do it yourself.
3108
02:28:59,082 --> 02:29:00,541
But it's really well-done,
3109
02:29:00,565 --> 02:29:02,644
and I was actually surprised
how well this holds up.
3110
02:29:02,668 --> 02:29:05,162
This city has a
heart of goodness.
3111
02:29:05,186 --> 02:29:07,634
And the bowels of squalor.
3112
02:29:13,220 --> 02:29:14,369
For a good time, call-
3113
02:29:14,393 --> 02:29:17,151
"Transylvania 6-5000".
3114
02:29:18,186 --> 02:29:19,955
Is good, huh?
3115
02:29:19,979 --> 02:29:23,369
"Transylvania 6-5000" is
an incredibly underrated
3116
02:29:23,393 --> 02:29:26,576
horror comedy, or should
I say comedy horror,
3117
02:29:26,600 --> 02:29:27,989
from the 80s.
3118
02:29:28,013 --> 02:29:30,886
It's got a lot of
really fun moments.
3119
02:29:30,910 --> 02:29:32,955
And the whole movie
just has this uplifting
3120
02:29:32,979 --> 02:29:35,093
jovial feeling to it.
3121
02:29:35,117 --> 02:29:36,300
Ah, Radu.
3122
02:29:36,324 --> 02:29:37,713
Yes, master?
3123
02:29:37,737 --> 02:29:39,058
Everybody involved
looks like they're having
3124
02:29:39,082 --> 02:29:40,472
an absolute blast.
3125
02:29:40,496 --> 02:29:43,610
You've got Ed Begley
Jr., Jeff Goldblum.
3126
02:29:43,634 --> 02:29:44,817
Every time I give you-
3127
02:29:44,841 --> 02:29:46,369
Two reporters
from a rag newspaper
3128
02:29:46,393 --> 02:29:49,231
are headed to Transylvania
to try to find Frankenstein.
3129
02:29:49,255 --> 02:29:52,300
So I'm counting on you guys
for a Frankenstein story.
3130
02:29:52,324 --> 02:29:54,403
I'm sorry, you're counting
on us for a what story?
3131
02:29:54,427 --> 02:29:56,438
My favorite part is
when they first arrive
3132
02:29:56,562 --> 02:30:00,227
in Transylvania, and they
ask a point blank question,
3133
02:30:00,351 --> 02:30:02,776
hey, where can we
find Frankenstein.
3134
02:30:02,800 --> 02:30:05,179
Frankenstein, you know
Frankenstein don't you?
3135
02:30:06,110 --> 02:30:06,880
Frankenstein?
3136
02:30:06,904 --> 02:30:07,913
Yes, the monster.
3137
02:30:07,937 --> 02:30:09,189
Ah.
3138
02:30:09,213 --> 02:30:10,534
Instead of just
laughing them off,
3139
02:30:10,558 --> 02:30:13,707
they drag it off
and humiliate them.
3140
02:30:13,731 --> 02:30:15,189
And then they get the
mayor to come out,
3141
02:30:15,213 --> 02:30:17,086
played by Jeffrey Jones,
3142
02:30:17,110 --> 02:30:19,327
and with the straightest
face possible,
3143
02:30:19,351 --> 02:30:23,524
says gentlemen, we're
in Transylvania.
3144
02:30:24,731 --> 02:30:27,075
Don't you want to
ask us about Dracula?
3145
02:30:28,558 --> 02:30:30,662
And then just
bursts out laughing.
3146
02:30:31,868 --> 02:30:32,777
I've got Godzilla
in the back room.
3147
02:30:32,801 --> 02:30:34,638
I like it, it's a good one.
3148
02:30:34,662 --> 02:30:35,972
How about the Blob?
3149
02:30:37,179 --> 02:30:38,534
It wouldn't be much
of a monster movie
3150
02:30:38,558 --> 02:30:41,465
without the monsters
actually showing up.
3151
02:30:41,489 --> 02:30:44,224
You got the mummy, a
Frankenstein monster,
3152
02:30:44,248 --> 02:30:46,948
a werewolf who looks
like Chewbacca.
3153
02:30:46,972 --> 02:30:48,638
Geena Davis as a vampire.
3154
02:30:48,662 --> 02:30:50,534
And then there's Kramer,
Michael Richards,
3155
02:30:50,558 --> 02:30:52,662
playing an Igor type.
3156
02:30:54,455 --> 02:30:55,534
Is good, huh?
3157
02:30:55,558 --> 02:30:56,672
Is funny!
3158
02:30:56,696 --> 02:30:58,293
Wearing funny goggles,
3159
02:30:58,317 --> 02:31:00,982
riding a mechanical
animal in a closet,
3160
02:31:01,006 --> 02:31:02,800
and slipping on banana peels.
3161
02:31:03,903 --> 02:31:06,120
Look, it's a
beautiful day today!
3162
02:31:06,144 --> 02:31:07,017
Whoa!
3163
02:31:07,041 --> 02:31:07,777
- Hey, hey!
- Oh!
3164
02:31:07,801 --> 02:31:09,327
Are you okay?
3165
02:31:09,351 --> 02:31:10,603
This one would make for
a wonderful double feature
3166
02:31:10,627 --> 02:31:12,189
with "Saturday the 14th".
3167
02:31:12,213 --> 02:31:14,868
They both have the same
kind of sophomoric humor.
3168
02:31:18,524 --> 02:31:20,248
And fun creature effects.
3169
02:31:37,696 --> 02:31:39,776
"Guinea Pig:
Devil's Experiment".
3170
02:31:39,800 --> 02:31:41,293
This is a found footage movie
3171
02:31:41,317 --> 02:31:43,086
in the faux documentary style.
3172
02:31:43,110 --> 02:31:45,879
It has title cards,
has an end card,
3173
02:31:45,903 --> 02:31:48,455
it's separated
into acts, almost.
3174
02:31:50,248 --> 02:31:53,017
It is about three guys
abusing this woman
3175
02:31:53,041 --> 02:31:56,524
in sequentially horrible ways.
3176
02:31:58,731 --> 02:32:01,431
And is absolutely gruesome.
3177
02:32:01,455 --> 02:32:03,569
And really effective,
because it's done in a way
3178
02:32:03,593 --> 02:32:06,534
where it does feel
the closest you'll see
3179
02:32:06,558 --> 02:32:08,258
to seeing a snuff movie.
3180
02:32:08,282 --> 02:32:10,776
It was made by Satoru Ogura,
3181
02:32:10,800 --> 02:32:12,776
who wrote and
directed it in 1985.
3182
02:32:12,800 --> 02:32:14,362
And the effects are inventive,
3183
02:32:14,386 --> 02:32:15,913
but it's not something
you can just sit down
3184
02:32:15,937 --> 02:32:17,672
with a packet of
crisps and eat it,
3185
02:32:17,696 --> 02:32:19,672
because you'll be
so grossed out.
3186
02:32:19,696 --> 02:32:21,258
It's a really interesting movie
3187
02:32:21,282 --> 02:32:24,086
that I wouldn't recommend
to too many people,
3188
02:32:24,110 --> 02:32:27,569
but I will say, the
sequels get more and more
3189
02:32:27,593 --> 02:32:29,120
and more interesting.
3190
02:32:29,144 --> 02:32:31,776
I am absolutely obsessed
3191
02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:34,293
by "Guinea Pig 5:
Mermaid in a Manhole".
3192
02:32:34,317 --> 02:32:36,638
That movie manages to
keep the grossness,
3193
02:32:36,662 --> 02:32:39,879
but add a really
heartfelt story in it.
3194
02:32:39,903 --> 02:32:42,672
In the first one, there was
absolutely no redemption
3195
02:32:42,696 --> 02:32:44,017
for these characters.
3196
02:32:44,041 --> 02:32:46,776
But in the later ones,
they give the characters
3197
02:32:46,800 --> 02:32:49,224
a little bit more
layers to them.
3198
02:32:49,248 --> 02:32:51,327
But they're still
doing the wrong things.
3199
02:32:51,351 --> 02:32:52,776
Women still end up dying,
3200
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:55,051
people still end
up being tortured,
3201
02:32:55,075 --> 02:32:57,258
and even in my favorite
moment in "The Manhole",
3202
02:32:57,282 --> 02:32:58,741
he thinks he's doing
the right thing
3203
02:32:58,765 --> 02:33:00,913
by saving this
mermaid in the sewer,
3204
02:33:00,937 --> 02:33:03,569
but he is effectively
taken her out of her home,
3205
02:33:03,593 --> 02:33:05,903
and is slowly killing
her for the sake of art.
3206
02:33:07,317 --> 02:33:09,913
These "Guinea Pig" movies
are kind of notorious
3207
02:33:09,937 --> 02:33:12,327
as being the precursors
to torture porn.
3208
02:33:12,351 --> 02:33:14,489
Things like "Hostel",
things like that.
3209
02:33:19,524 --> 02:33:20,707
And I don't really
see that type of movie
3210
02:33:20,731 --> 02:33:23,396
coming back again,
because I think it was
3211
02:33:23,420 --> 02:33:27,017
really surrounding VHS,
and the ability to share
3212
02:33:27,041 --> 02:33:28,396
horrific images with people,
3213
02:33:28,420 --> 02:33:29,879
which you can do at
the touch of a button
3214
02:33:29,903 --> 02:33:31,327
with the internet now,
3215
02:33:31,351 --> 02:33:33,258
but back then, the feeling
of having something
3216
02:33:33,282 --> 02:33:36,051
that you shouldn't
have, a snuff movie,
3217
02:33:36,075 --> 02:33:38,569
and passing that around,
is really the reason
3218
02:33:38,593 --> 02:33:40,741
why there's so many
"Guinea Pig" movies,
3219
02:33:40,765 --> 02:33:43,086
and that's why also the
"Faces of Death" movies
3220
02:33:43,110 --> 02:33:45,558
in the western world
were so popular.
3221
02:33:58,834 --> 02:34:00,776
Spielberg once said to me
3222
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:04,603
I would love to make a
really vicious horror movie.
3223
02:34:04,627 --> 02:34:08,155
You wouldn't believe some
of the dark ideas I have
3224
02:34:08,179 --> 02:34:11,396
that would probably
challenge Cronenberg
3225
02:34:11,420 --> 02:34:15,844
as far as going the
distance in shocking stuff.
3226
02:34:15,868 --> 02:34:18,500
But I can't do that
because of who I am.
3227
02:34:18,524 --> 02:34:20,776
That was when he was best known
3228
02:34:20,800 --> 02:34:22,327
for "E.T." and "Poltergeist",
3229
02:34:22,351 --> 02:34:24,362
and more family friendly stuff.
3230
02:34:24,386 --> 02:34:26,776
He felt that that
put him in a box
3231
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:29,696
that didn't allow him to
go to the other distance.
3232
02:34:31,351 --> 02:34:33,879
The most impactful horror films
3233
02:34:33,903 --> 02:34:36,362
will always come from some guy
3234
02:34:36,386 --> 02:34:38,982
in the middle of nowhere
with a bunch of friends
3235
02:34:39,006 --> 02:34:41,776
who've made a movie,
and it's really cool,
3236
02:34:41,800 --> 02:34:43,800
and is a huge success.
3237
02:34:46,593 --> 02:34:50,051
As soon as you have
a committee involved
3238
02:34:50,075 --> 02:34:52,638
in making a horror
film, it never works.
3239
02:34:52,662 --> 02:34:54,086
It's not a committee.
3240
02:34:54,110 --> 02:34:56,248
It's a singular vision.
3241
02:34:57,800 --> 02:34:59,810
Too many bones.
3242
02:34:59,834 --> 02:35:02,776
When you have one person
with one clear vision,
3243
02:35:02,800 --> 02:35:04,362
that comes through
in the final product.
3244
02:35:04,386 --> 02:35:06,465
So it's an important thing
that there is a director
3245
02:35:06,489 --> 02:35:09,051
that sees it through
from start to finish.
3246
02:35:09,075 --> 02:35:10,982
The lower the budget,
the more creative
3247
02:35:11,006 --> 02:35:13,627
a filmmaker can get to
realize their vision.
3248
02:35:15,041 --> 02:35:17,707
You just have to keep
everything in perspective.
3249
02:35:17,731 --> 02:35:18,810
We're making movies.
3250
02:35:18,834 --> 02:35:20,327
We're doing what we love.
3251
02:35:20,351 --> 02:35:23,075
I said I think my
ears are gonna explode.
3252
02:35:26,455 --> 02:35:28,258
I think that's really
an important part
3253
02:35:28,282 --> 02:35:29,190
of being a filmmaker.
3254
02:35:29,214 --> 02:35:30,776
I wanted to affect something.
3255
02:35:30,800 --> 02:35:33,465
And that at the
tenacity of the finish.
3256
02:35:33,489 --> 02:35:34,672
That's the whole thing.
3257
02:35:34,696 --> 02:35:37,155
Most people quit when
things get rough.
3258
02:35:37,179 --> 02:35:39,500
And they always get rough.
3259
02:35:39,524 --> 02:35:42,844
Really the best directors
I've ever worked with,
3260
02:35:42,868 --> 02:35:45,224
they hire the right people.
3261
02:35:45,248 --> 02:35:47,765
And they trust their talent.
3262
02:35:49,075 --> 02:35:52,293
When I think about the
three great directors
3263
02:35:52,317 --> 02:35:55,017
that I've worked with,
the ones that come to mind
3264
02:35:55,041 --> 02:35:58,258
are John Carpenter, George
Romero, and Wes Craven.
3265
02:35:58,282 --> 02:35:59,948
They have a bunch
of things in common.
3266
02:35:59,972 --> 02:36:02,465
They all knew exactly
what they wanted.
3267
02:36:02,489 --> 02:36:05,776
And all three of them
kept a very calm,
3268
02:36:05,800 --> 02:36:10,603
very supportive set,
a very happy set.
3269
02:36:10,627 --> 02:36:13,189
Playing mind games,
that's not the way
3270
02:36:13,213 --> 02:36:15,224
those three men directed.
3271
02:36:15,248 --> 02:36:16,156
Cut.
3272
02:36:16,180 --> 02:36:17,362
Prints, thank you.
3273
02:36:17,386 --> 02:36:18,879
I would argue
that John Carpenter
3274
02:36:18,903 --> 02:36:20,431
was probably the most underrated
3275
02:36:20,455 --> 02:36:23,317
great American filmmaker ever.
3276
02:36:26,903 --> 02:36:29,086
And he's not probably
largely viewed that way
3277
02:36:29,110 --> 02:36:30,948
by people who should
view him that way.
3278
02:36:30,972 --> 02:36:32,569
He's certainly very
revered by most people
3279
02:36:32,593 --> 02:36:34,189
who like horror,
but he's much more
3280
02:36:34,213 --> 02:36:36,017
than a horror filmmaker.
3281
02:36:36,041 --> 02:36:37,844
Cronenberg, because
he was headier,
3282
02:36:37,868 --> 02:36:40,155
I think got more due,
and more acceptance
3283
02:36:40,179 --> 02:36:42,213
by the snobbier film community.
3284
02:36:44,213 --> 02:36:47,810
The relationship between
humanity and physicality
3285
02:36:47,834 --> 02:36:50,120
is something that
Cronenberg explores a lot,
3286
02:36:50,144 --> 02:36:53,776
whether it's "eXistenZ",
or "Rabid", or "Shivers".
3287
02:36:53,800 --> 02:36:54,982
"The Fly".
3288
02:36:55,006 --> 02:36:58,258
He regurgitates on
his food, it liquefies,
3289
02:36:58,282 --> 02:36:59,776
and then he sucks it back up.
3290
02:36:59,800 --> 02:37:01,800
It's a theme that he
would come back to a lot
3291
02:37:03,524 --> 02:37:04,765
Oh my god.
3292
02:37:06,868 --> 02:37:09,844
John Carpenter's biggest
influence on 1980s horror
3293
02:37:09,868 --> 02:37:12,603
was "Halloween" from 1978.
3294
02:37:12,727 --> 02:37:15,910
That really kicked
off the slasher boom.
3295
02:37:16,034 --> 02:37:19,000
And paved the way for
so many copycats after.
3296
02:37:24,103 --> 02:37:27,493
His legacy is that the
genre was taken seriously,
3297
02:37:27,517 --> 02:37:29,286
and he wanted to
give the audience,
3298
02:37:29,310 --> 02:37:32,044
not just a thrill, but
just show how movie making
3299
02:37:32,068 --> 02:37:33,275
can be an experience.
3300
02:37:34,758 --> 02:37:37,148
โช Just the two of us
3301
02:37:37,172 --> 02:37:39,665
I didn't watch as
many horror films
3302
02:37:39,689 --> 02:37:41,838
as I should have during the 80s
3303
02:37:41,862 --> 02:37:43,320
because I was so busy.
3304
02:37:43,344 --> 02:37:47,113
But I remember a lot of the
movies I saw in the 70s,
3305
02:37:47,137 --> 02:37:50,700
"The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre" being a big one.
3306
02:37:50,724 --> 02:37:51,862
I loved that movie.
3307
02:37:53,413 --> 02:37:55,320
Tobe was a close friend.
3308
02:37:55,344 --> 02:37:57,596
Really upset by the
passing of Tobe.
3309
02:37:57,620 --> 02:37:59,769
A very sweet man.
3310
02:37:59,793 --> 02:38:02,320
Really wonderful guy.
3311
02:38:02,344 --> 02:38:05,838
He made the cinematic
experience for moviegoers
3312
02:38:05,862 --> 02:38:09,448
a lot more brutal I think
than they were used to.
3313
02:38:13,000 --> 02:38:15,320
The two greatest movies
that Tobe Hooper made,
3314
02:38:15,344 --> 02:38:17,665
"The Texas Chainsaw
Massacre", and "Poltergeist",
3315
02:38:17,689 --> 02:38:19,976
were both used against
him to say well,
3316
02:38:20,000 --> 02:38:22,872
he didn't direct one, and
the other one is crap.
3317
02:38:22,896 --> 02:38:25,389
And so he struggled
his whole life
3318
02:38:25,413 --> 02:38:28,344
to become more
accepted as a director.
3319
02:38:31,206 --> 02:38:34,286
I feel like every
movie Wes Craven makes
3320
02:38:34,310 --> 02:38:37,734
was like a statement
piece, was groundbreaking,
3321
02:38:37,758 --> 02:38:39,251
wasn't like oh,
here's a horror movie.
3322
02:38:39,275 --> 02:38:42,010
It was like, this
has changed the face
3323
02:38:42,034 --> 02:38:43,586
of what we're watching today.
3324
02:38:47,551 --> 02:38:49,734
He was making films
and having a blast.
3325
02:38:49,758 --> 02:38:54,251
He was very kind of, in the
New York intellectual scene.
3326
02:38:54,275 --> 02:38:56,872
Night and day different,
3327
02:38:56,896 --> 02:38:59,793
were Wes Craven's
movies and who he was.
3328
02:39:01,689 --> 02:39:03,734
George Romero,
for someone who made
3329
02:39:03,758 --> 02:39:08,424
such really creepy,
disturbing films,
3330
02:39:08,448 --> 02:39:10,251
he was such a bear.
3331
02:39:10,275 --> 02:39:14,517
Just a cuddly, sweet,
delightful presence.
3332
02:39:17,000 --> 02:39:18,527
My god.
3333
02:39:18,551 --> 02:39:21,838
George was a master, and he
was always ahead of his time.
3334
02:39:21,862 --> 02:39:24,424
That's what was so remarkable
about George's films.
3335
02:39:24,448 --> 02:39:27,551
They get better and
better with age.
3336
02:39:34,241 --> 02:39:37,976
Dario Argento, he was
consistently impressive
3337
02:39:38,000 --> 02:39:40,965
as a filmmaker, right up to
and including "Two Evil Eyes".
3338
02:39:43,827 --> 02:39:45,700
What's special about Dario
3339
02:39:45,724 --> 02:39:49,079
is his operatic
style of filmmaking.
3340
02:39:49,103 --> 02:39:51,137
He revels in murder.
3341
02:39:53,413 --> 02:39:56,389
He has a fetish for creating
3342
02:39:56,413 --> 02:39:59,310
these amazing murder set pieces.
3343
02:40:07,517 --> 02:40:09,527
Steward Gordon
was a provocateur.
3344
02:40:09,551 --> 02:40:13,620
He liked to make movies that
really provoked a reaction.
3345
02:40:16,448 --> 02:40:19,596
Stewart was the
king of the party.
3346
02:40:19,620 --> 02:40:24,620
He made sure that everything
was big and bold and body.
3347
02:40:28,517 --> 02:40:30,010
He has a different personality
3348
02:40:30,034 --> 02:40:31,596
with pretty much
every movie he does.
3349
02:40:31,620 --> 02:40:33,355
"Dagon" has a
different personality.
3350
02:40:33,379 --> 02:40:35,458
"Dolls" has a
different personality.
3351
02:40:35,482 --> 02:40:37,286
"Stuck" has a
different personality.
3352
02:40:37,310 --> 02:40:40,241
"Castle Freak", everything's
a little different.
3353
02:40:46,482 --> 02:40:48,907
Kathryn Bigelow,
in my estimation,
3354
02:40:48,931 --> 02:40:51,700
Mary Lambert, they broke
the mold a little bit.
3355
02:40:51,724 --> 02:40:53,389
They were very bold.
3356
02:40:53,413 --> 02:40:55,182
I think they knew they
were gonna be able
3357
02:40:55,206 --> 02:40:57,941
to find advocacy within
the studio system.
3358
02:40:57,965 --> 02:40:59,769
I think they had
that confidence.
3359
02:40:59,793 --> 02:41:03,206
And that confidence radiates
from those products.
3360
02:41:04,448 --> 02:41:08,079
Fasten your fucking seatbelt!
3361
02:41:08,103 --> 02:41:12,424
It was very, very
difficult for women directors
3362
02:41:12,448 --> 02:41:14,976
to either put together
a film themselves,
3363
02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:18,320
or to get a job
directing any film.
3364
02:41:18,344 --> 02:41:21,251
Well come on, baby!
3365
02:41:21,275 --> 02:41:22,700
Light my fire.
3366
02:41:22,724 --> 02:41:25,148
Now it's opened a lot more.
3367
02:41:25,172 --> 02:41:27,286
But we have a lot to
ground to make up.
3368
02:41:27,310 --> 02:41:28,907
It was bad.
3369
02:41:28,931 --> 02:41:31,010
We're not as far
along as we should be.
3370
02:41:31,034 --> 02:41:32,182
Let's just put it that way.
3371
02:41:32,206 --> 02:41:34,182
We have to get to a point
3372
02:41:34,206 --> 02:41:36,251
where women are not labeled
3373
02:41:36,275 --> 02:41:40,320
as female filmmaker, or like me,
3374
02:41:40,344 --> 02:41:43,113
Mexican-Canadian,
blah-blah-blah, filmmaker.
3375
02:41:43,137 --> 02:41:44,355
Like, you can have
all the labels.
3376
02:41:44,379 --> 02:41:46,665
My last name's
already long enough.
3377
02:41:46,689 --> 02:41:50,148
I just want us to be
recognized as a good filmmaker,
3378
02:41:50,172 --> 02:41:53,976
and it's taken all this
time to finally get here.
3379
02:41:54,000 --> 02:41:57,665
But it's our responsibility
as storytellers
3380
02:41:57,689 --> 02:42:00,976
to challenge audiences,
and to challenge studios
3381
02:42:01,000 --> 02:42:01,804
to accept that.
3382
02:42:01,828 --> 02:42:04,448
Welcome to our house!
3383
02:42:06,172 --> 02:42:07,620
Puta!
3384
02:42:08,551 --> 02:42:09,769
We'll keep working hard.
3385
02:42:09,793 --> 02:42:11,527
And we'll keep
challenging everybody
3386
02:42:11,551 --> 02:42:14,689
that watches our
movies to accept it.
3387
02:42:28,034 --> 02:42:29,872
The Puttermans
finally got themselves
3388
02:42:29,896 --> 02:42:33,655
a pet, but they never even had
a chance to give it a name.
3389
02:42:34,931 --> 02:42:36,113
"TerrorVision".
3390
02:42:36,137 --> 02:42:37,458
"TerrorVision" was one
of the movies we made
3391
02:42:37,482 --> 02:42:39,527
during those amazing
three years or so
3392
02:42:39,551 --> 02:42:42,217
at Empire Studios
in Rome, Italy.
3393
02:42:42,241 --> 02:42:44,803
That's when that, you know
you conceive something,
3394
02:42:44,827 --> 02:42:46,424
you have a great poster,
3395
02:42:46,448 --> 02:42:49,172
and then it morphs into
something entirely different.
3396
02:42:56,862 --> 02:42:58,079
It was originally gonna be
a straight up horror movie
3397
02:42:58,103 --> 02:42:59,907
that this monster
comes out of the TV
3398
02:42:59,931 --> 02:43:01,965
and eats the family.
3399
02:43:03,206 --> 02:43:06,551
But Ted had this kind of
strange dark humor, and-
3400
02:43:10,758 --> 02:43:11,666
Whoa!
3401
02:43:11,690 --> 02:43:12,907
I just kind of pondered
3402
02:43:12,931 --> 02:43:15,907
how to make a monster coming out
3403
02:43:15,931 --> 02:43:19,907
of a satellite dish, have some
kind of social commentary.
3404
02:43:19,931 --> 02:43:22,044
You must heed my warning!
3405
02:43:22,068 --> 02:43:24,562
Its appetite is insatiable!
3406
02:43:24,586 --> 02:43:26,941
Its curiosity is boundless!
3407
02:43:26,965 --> 02:43:30,424
I had to capture
this moment of the 80s
3408
02:43:30,448 --> 02:43:34,896
about the overwhelming
garbage of television.
3409
02:43:35,724 --> 02:43:38,458
Channel 69, Pops.
3410
02:43:38,482 --> 02:43:39,976
Stanley!
3411
02:43:40,000 --> 02:43:43,907
Man, it exploded into this
technicolor kind of wildness.
3412
02:43:43,931 --> 02:43:45,389
Look out!
3413
02:43:45,413 --> 02:43:47,907
To the film's credit,
or maybe its detriment,
3414
02:43:47,931 --> 02:43:50,493
I don't know, I made
these characters
3415
02:43:50,517 --> 02:43:52,700
that are sort of
really reprehensible.
3416
02:43:52,724 --> 02:43:54,275
My parents wanna meet you.
3417
02:43:55,517 --> 02:43:56,321
Oh, whoa.
3418
02:43:56,345 --> 02:43:58,010
What a drag.
3419
02:43:58,034 --> 02:44:00,907
I wanted our monster in
"TerrorVision", Hungry Beast,
3420
02:44:00,931 --> 02:44:03,620
to be a sympathetic character.
3421
02:44:05,758 --> 02:44:08,838
Well, he's just a pet
who really couldn't help
3422
02:44:08,862 --> 02:44:10,172
that he was hungry.
3423
02:44:11,862 --> 02:44:14,010
John Buechler and his crew
3424
02:44:14,034 --> 02:44:18,527
were kind of like the Charlie
go-to makeup effects people.
3425
02:44:18,551 --> 02:44:22,079
John just looked at me like
I was completely insane.
3426
02:44:22,103 --> 02:44:25,320
Once we found the basic design,
3427
02:44:25,344 --> 02:44:26,941
John threw himself into it
3428
02:44:26,965 --> 02:44:29,389
and created this character
that is just like
3429
02:44:29,413 --> 02:44:32,217
the most doofus-y
looking monster
3430
02:44:32,241 --> 02:44:33,941
that you could imagine.
3431
02:44:33,965 --> 02:44:35,079
No!
3432
02:44:35,103 --> 02:44:37,665
It was big and
heavy and hot inside,
3433
02:44:37,689 --> 02:44:40,182
and required five
or six puppeteers
3434
02:44:40,206 --> 02:44:42,355
just to make him work,
3435
02:44:42,379 --> 02:44:44,734
and shipping him over to Italy
3436
02:44:44,758 --> 02:44:48,241
must have been just
ridiculously expensive.
3437
02:44:50,137 --> 02:44:52,803
โช TerrorVision
3438
02:44:52,827 --> 02:44:54,941
That main title theme
is just so perfect.
3439
02:44:54,965 --> 02:44:57,113
Sets the time
period of the movie,
3440
02:44:57,137 --> 02:44:59,079
sets the tone of the movie.
3441
02:44:59,103 --> 02:45:02,424
We talked to Frank Zappa
about doing the score.
3442
02:45:02,448 --> 02:45:04,527
Then I talked to The Cramps.
3443
02:45:04,551 --> 02:45:09,113
But The Fibonaccis, the
quirky quality of their music
3444
02:45:09,137 --> 02:45:12,172
was perfect for the
main title song.
3445
02:45:13,586 --> 02:45:15,803
โช TerrorVision
3446
02:45:15,827 --> 02:45:18,251
My favorite sequence
of "TerrorVision"
3447
02:45:18,275 --> 02:45:22,010
is the creature is
sitting in the big hot tub
3448
02:45:22,034 --> 02:45:25,527
watching "Earth Versus
Flying Saucers" on TV,
3449
02:45:25,551 --> 02:45:28,562
and laughing uproariously
as flying saucers
3450
02:45:28,586 --> 02:45:30,896
smash into the monuments.
3451
02:45:34,931 --> 02:45:38,310
The kids come in
and try to kill it.
3452
02:45:41,862 --> 02:45:43,631
That little sequence
there, to me,
3453
02:45:43,655 --> 02:45:47,137
kind of captures the
chaos and the humor.
3454
02:45:51,137 --> 02:45:52,234
Sis!
3455
02:45:54,000 --> 02:45:56,217
I was so pleased
that it came out
3456
02:45:56,241 --> 02:45:57,424
as well as it did.
3457
02:45:57,448 --> 02:45:59,113
And then when it went
into the theaters
3458
02:45:59,137 --> 02:46:00,838
for its one week run,
3459
02:46:00,862 --> 02:46:02,907
it was a fucking disaster.
3460
02:46:02,931 --> 02:46:04,217
Nobody came.
3461
02:46:04,241 --> 02:46:06,148
The reviews just hated it.
3462
02:46:06,172 --> 02:46:08,631
Man, this is the
dumbest movie I ever saw!
3463
02:46:08,655 --> 02:46:10,079
What a bunch of crud.
3464
02:46:10,103 --> 02:46:13,044
But over the years, it's
been really satisfying
3465
02:46:13,068 --> 02:46:15,182
to see how it became
kind of like a
3466
02:46:15,206 --> 02:46:17,044
let's get stoned
and watch this film,
3467
02:46:17,268 --> 02:46:20,638
and that's like kind of
what it was intended to be.
3468
02:46:21,262 --> 02:46:24,238
I'm really happy that it's kinda
reached as many people
3469
02:46:24,362 --> 02:46:25,700
as it has.
3470
02:46:38,224 --> 02:46:40,165
In "Rats: Notte di
Terrore", which is
3471
02:46:40,189 --> 02:46:43,441
"Rats: Night of Terror",
ragtag band of survivors
3472
02:46:43,465 --> 02:46:46,993
after the last apocalypse are
searching for food and water
3473
02:46:47,017 --> 02:46:48,613
in a no man's land.
3474
02:46:48,637 --> 02:46:50,407
They would find
evolution has taken
3475
02:46:50,431 --> 02:46:52,155
a pretty nasty turn.
3476
02:46:57,879 --> 02:46:59,303
This is a really
low budget movie,
3477
02:46:59,327 --> 02:47:02,338
and it's the first
movie where I'm a lead.
3478
02:47:02,362 --> 02:47:03,958
It was only a gag.
3479
02:47:03,982 --> 02:47:05,441
Listen up.
3480
02:47:05,465 --> 02:47:07,234
Gags we don't need.
3481
02:47:07,258 --> 02:47:09,476
Any more and I'll blow
your fucking brains out.
3482
02:47:09,500 --> 02:47:10,717
Get it?
3483
02:47:10,741 --> 02:47:13,579
They actually had cast
my roommate at the time
3484
02:47:13,603 --> 02:47:14,855
to play my role.
3485
02:47:14,879 --> 02:47:17,062
Completely different
type, American girl.
3486
02:47:17,086 --> 02:47:18,441
She's got red hair.
3487
02:47:18,465 --> 02:47:19,924
Completely different girl.
3488
02:47:19,948 --> 02:47:22,327
The budget was so low, she
goes I'm not doing that.
3489
02:47:23,500 --> 02:47:25,396
Somehow I guess
they heard I would.
3490
02:47:31,534 --> 02:47:32,924
Oh my god!
3491
02:47:32,948 --> 02:47:33,958
I won't even tell you
3492
02:47:33,982 --> 02:47:34,993
what I got paid per week.
3493
02:47:35,017 --> 02:47:36,096
That's how low it was.
3494
02:47:36,120 --> 02:47:37,568
They were paying you by week.
3495
02:47:38,500 --> 02:47:40,510
Not Diana, no!
3496
02:47:40,534 --> 02:47:41,820
The script was in Italian.
3497
02:47:41,844 --> 02:47:43,682
But I did my role in English.
3498
02:47:43,706 --> 02:47:46,441
And then that movie,
everyone with the exception
3499
02:47:46,465 --> 02:47:48,269
of maybe two people,
could speak English.
3500
02:47:48,293 --> 02:47:50,958
And then everyone else
would be dubbed around it.
3501
02:47:50,982 --> 02:47:53,062
You made a bet with me
and you lost, Chocolate.
3502
02:47:53,086 --> 02:47:54,510
You know it.
3503
02:47:54,534 --> 02:47:56,062
Put it on my bill.
3504
02:47:56,086 --> 02:47:57,476
Tonight I don't feel like it.
3505
02:47:57,500 --> 02:48:00,200
Now here's a fun
thing about the set.
3506
02:48:00,224 --> 02:48:02,131
It's actually Sergio Leone's
3507
02:48:02,155 --> 02:48:04,786
old America from "One
Upon a Time in America".
3508
02:48:04,810 --> 02:48:07,544
All the saloons, and all
the stores they're going in.
3509
02:48:07,568 --> 02:48:08,855
It's the same set.
3510
02:48:08,879 --> 02:48:10,993
Mere weeks before,
De Niro was in town,
3511
02:48:11,017 --> 02:48:12,476
and he was everywhere.
3512
02:48:12,500 --> 02:48:13,442
You could see him anywhere,
and they were doing that.
3513
02:48:13,466 --> 02:48:14,751
And then we got to use the set.
3514
02:48:14,775 --> 02:48:17,338
Here's where my
four-legged friend came from.
3515
02:48:17,362 --> 02:48:18,579
Look.
3516
02:48:18,603 --> 02:48:20,027
There's a whole nest of
the sweet little things.
3517
02:48:20,051 --> 02:48:22,131
We don't have any
actual rats in the movie.
3518
02:48:22,155 --> 02:48:23,338
We have lab mice.
3519
02:48:23,362 --> 02:48:25,303
Because only lab mice
have the red eyes.
3520
02:48:25,327 --> 02:48:26,717
They dyed all of their hair.
3521
02:48:26,741 --> 02:48:28,441
It was a different
time, a different era.
3522
02:48:28,465 --> 02:48:30,958
I wouldn't say that all
of them were treated
3523
02:48:30,982 --> 02:48:32,303
the way we would do it now,
3524
02:48:32,327 --> 02:48:33,270
but we weren't going around
3525
02:48:33,294 --> 02:48:34,982
stomping on them, or anything.
3526
02:48:37,086 --> 02:48:39,269
And as you see the movie,
there's real no CGI.
3527
02:48:39,293 --> 02:48:41,234
You can tell we got rubber rats
3528
02:48:41,258 --> 02:48:42,775
on the roller, you know?
3529
02:48:44,810 --> 02:48:47,165
The movie was so low budget,
3530
02:48:47,189 --> 02:48:48,855
they recycled the dead ones
3531
02:48:48,879 --> 02:48:51,648
to throw on us in
the other scenes.
3532
02:48:51,672 --> 02:48:53,889
I've been on some
smelly sets before.
3533
02:48:53,913 --> 02:48:55,131
But you've never been on a set
3534
02:48:55,155 --> 02:48:57,234
that's been housing a
garbage can that big
3535
02:48:57,258 --> 02:48:58,637
of dead rats.
3536
02:48:59,810 --> 02:49:02,062
Suddenly they're
gassed, and they die.
3537
02:49:02,086 --> 02:49:04,786
And in the most feminine
faint in history,
3538
02:49:04,810 --> 02:49:07,741
I kind of faint like this.
3539
02:49:08,741 --> 02:49:10,372
It was a good beginning.
3540
02:49:10,396 --> 02:49:12,648
If you haven't seen
the movie before,
3541
02:49:12,672 --> 02:49:15,751
pay great attention
to the last scene.
3542
02:49:15,775 --> 02:49:18,441
And if you have seen
the movie before,
3543
02:49:18,465 --> 02:49:19,717
here's the hint.
3544
02:49:19,741 --> 02:49:21,786
That's a split scene.
3545
02:49:21,810 --> 02:49:23,500
And I played both characters.
3546
02:49:37,051 --> 02:49:41,648
The terror
starts the moment you stop
3547
02:49:41,672 --> 02:49:42,820
for "The Hitcher".
3548
02:49:42,844 --> 02:49:45,544
It's a straightforward thriller
3549
02:49:45,568 --> 02:49:47,982
that grips you
and never lets go.
3550
02:49:55,431 --> 02:49:58,027
Tobe Hooper used
to say horror films
3551
02:49:58,051 --> 02:49:59,476
are the new westerns.
3552
02:49:59,500 --> 02:50:03,751
Their mythology is all
about trying to reconcile
3553
02:50:03,775 --> 02:50:06,613
the evil within oneself,
the evil within a society,
3554
02:50:06,637 --> 02:50:08,165
the evil of a certain act,
3555
02:50:08,189 --> 02:50:10,993
with those who want
to correct it, fix it,
3556
02:50:11,017 --> 02:50:13,096
fight it, avenge it.
3557
02:50:13,120 --> 02:50:15,476
Don't you know who he is?
3558
02:50:15,500 --> 02:50:17,224
You got the wrong man, Lyle.
3559
02:50:18,637 --> 02:50:21,096
The monster in the film
is not a guy in a mask,
3560
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:26,120
but he is exactly like Jason,
Leatherface, Michael Meyers.
3561
02:50:27,327 --> 02:50:29,820
He's simply hitching
a ride in the rain.
3562
02:50:29,844 --> 02:50:34,441
And this horrific story ensues.
3563
02:50:34,465 --> 02:50:37,027
You wanna know what
happens to an eyeball
3564
02:50:37,051 --> 02:50:38,396
when it gets punctured?
3565
02:50:39,741 --> 02:50:42,303
The movie truly only
has three characters,
3566
02:50:42,327 --> 02:50:44,062
and I love that economy.
3567
02:50:44,086 --> 02:50:46,717
It has C. Thomas Howell,
Jennifer Jason Leigh,
3568
02:50:46,741 --> 02:50:48,500
and Rutger Hauer.
3569
02:50:49,879 --> 02:50:51,855
He's one of the
scariest human beings
3570
02:50:51,879 --> 02:50:53,476
on the fucking planet.
3571
02:50:53,500 --> 02:50:56,062
His presence fills the screen.
3572
02:50:56,086 --> 02:50:57,224
That gun is empty.
3573
02:50:58,431 --> 02:50:59,431
Yeah?
3574
02:51:00,120 --> 02:51:00,994
Yeah.
3575
02:51:01,018 --> 02:51:02,234
Yeah?
3576
02:51:02,258 --> 02:51:04,717
It's a film about
being paranoid,
3577
02:51:04,741 --> 02:51:07,441
and knowing something
really bad is happening,
3578
02:51:07,465 --> 02:51:10,120
but nobody will believe you.
3579
02:51:11,148 --> 02:51:12,148
Jesus!
3580
02:51:13,527 --> 02:51:14,331
Oh my god.
3581
02:51:14,355 --> 02:51:15,158
He put that there!
3582
02:51:15,182 --> 02:51:16,182
He put that there!
3583
02:51:17,424 --> 02:51:19,779
To this day, when
I'm eating fries,
3584
02:51:19,803 --> 02:51:23,469
I always look at the
fry that I'm eating.
3585
02:51:23,493 --> 02:51:25,469
He's eating, and he gets
there, and it's a finger,
3586
02:51:25,493 --> 02:51:26,296
and you're like, fuck!
3587
02:51:26,320 --> 02:51:27,320
It's a finger!
3588
02:51:32,389 --> 02:51:34,124
They've got the
girlfriend connected,
3589
02:51:34,148 --> 02:51:36,217
chained up between
the two trucks.
3590
02:51:37,044 --> 02:51:38,227
Do something!
3591
02:51:38,251 --> 02:51:39,676
If we shoot him,
his foot is gonna come
3592
02:51:39,700 --> 02:51:41,986
off that clutch, and
that truck is gonna roll!
3593
02:51:42,010 --> 02:51:44,503
And he just looks
at C. Thomas Howell,
3594
02:51:44,527 --> 02:51:48,700
and there's that moment
of, is he gonna let her go?
3595
02:51:53,148 --> 02:51:54,572
TriStar released "The Hitcher",
3596
02:51:54,596 --> 02:51:56,813
and they were a little skittish
about the script stuff,
3597
02:51:56,837 --> 02:51:59,572
is because in 1984, the last
horror movie they released
3598
02:51:59,596 --> 02:52:00,848
was "Silent Night Deadly Night".
3599
02:52:00,872 --> 02:52:02,676
And that only had
a two week run,
3600
02:52:02,700 --> 02:52:04,676
and it was protested
out of theaters.
3601
02:52:04,700 --> 02:52:06,813
So taking a chance on a
movie like "The Hitcher",
3602
02:52:06,837 --> 02:52:08,124
they saw this script,
and they were like
3603
02:52:08,148 --> 02:52:09,837
remove the slasher elements.
3604
02:52:10,941 --> 02:52:11,941
Figure it out.
3605
02:52:12,975 --> 02:52:16,469
"The Hitcher" was in
that crossover period
3606
02:52:16,493 --> 02:52:18,124
where things were
starting to get
3607
02:52:18,148 --> 02:52:20,365
a little bit less splattery.
3608
02:52:20,589 --> 02:52:23,220
Style, that 80s video style,
3609
02:52:23,244 --> 02:52:25,876
was starting to
permeate thrillers.
3610
02:52:25,900 --> 02:52:27,220
Directed by Robert Harmon,
3611
02:52:27,244 --> 02:52:28,221
written by Eric Red,
3612
02:52:28,245 --> 02:52:29,462
who also wrote "Near Dark",
3613
02:52:29,486 --> 02:52:32,220
which is another
example of that stylized
3614
02:52:32,244 --> 02:52:33,324
horror movie making.
3615
02:52:33,348 --> 02:52:34,382
Where are you from?
3616
02:52:38,900 --> 02:52:40,082
Disneyland.
3617
02:52:40,106 --> 02:52:42,289
The late great Rutger Hauer.
3618
02:52:42,313 --> 02:52:44,565
I could do a
complete dissertation
3619
02:52:44,589 --> 02:52:48,313
on just how fucking
unappreciated he was.
3620
02:52:50,555 --> 02:52:52,600
No!
3621
02:52:52,624 --> 02:52:56,669
He could have been the head
of every horror family ever.
3622
02:52:56,693 --> 02:53:01,589
You useless waste.
3623
02:53:05,313 --> 02:53:07,382
So good.
3624
02:53:13,037 --> 02:53:15,462
Something fantastic in the 1980s
3625
02:53:15,486 --> 02:53:16,600
happened where they were like
3626
02:53:16,624 --> 02:53:18,876
"Gremlins",
"Critters", "Ghoulies".
3627
02:53:18,900 --> 02:53:21,807
There are tiny creatures,
they are going to take over,
3628
02:53:21,831 --> 02:53:22,900
and I'm into it.
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