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This programme contains some strong language.
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Stand by, two. Mix... Cue on two.
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The BBC has announced the appointment
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of ex-Head of Olympic Deliverance,
Ian Fletcher,
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as its new Head of Values.
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Time now for the shipping forecast.
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Superimpose.
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It's Monday morning
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and a new week at the BBC's New
Broadcasting House headquarters
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somewhere in central London,
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as Head of Values Ian Fletcher
arrives in order to begin it.
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- Morning.
- Morning. Morning, Will.
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Yeah, cool.
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So far, at least on the basis
of all the available evidence,
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it looks as if everything
is going like clockwork.
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First of all, thank you for making
time in your diaries for this.
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- I know how busy things are at the moment.
- Yep.
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Yes, they certainly are, Ian, yes.
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By nine o'clock,
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Ian is chairing a special meeting
of the Way Ahead Group,
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in his role as someone whose job
it is to steer the organisation
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confidently towards whatever
it is that's going to happen next.
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But I called this meeting
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because I think we're at a critical moment
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in the life of this group, and, who knows,
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- maybe even in the life of the Corporation.
- Hurrah.
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This is the year in which the
BBC's Royal Charter
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is up for renewal.
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Of course, we know there are
some tough choices coming our way.
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- Brilliant.
- Yes, exactly.
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Which is what the More Of Less
initiative is about, of course.
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-
- Yep.
- Yep.
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The fact is, this is about identifying
what we do best
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and finding more ways of
doing less of it better.
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- Yes.
- Brilliant.
- Yeah, bollocks.
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The Charter renewal process gives
the BBC an opportunity
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to question everything it does,
and ask the question
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whether there's any point
to any of it at all any more.
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And with all that in mind,
my suggestion is
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that as from today, this becomes
the Renewal Group,
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- rather than Way Ahead.
- Right, OK.
- Yes, good.
- Hallelujah.
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- Well, no...
- Renewal?
- No, honestly.
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- Amen.
- It just focuses the mind, that's all.
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I'm sorry, Ian, that is just...
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I mean, I feel like opening the window
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- and shouting down Regent Street.
- Well, no, please don't.
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No, Christ's sake.
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Really, it's about resetting
the dial for everyone in the building
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and shining a new light on that dial,
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or at least shining the old light
but with a new bulb,
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so none of us can be in
any doubt where the dial is
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or can have any excuse for not
being able to read what it says.
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- Yeah.
- Brilliant.
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- Blimey.
- Have we got that?
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- Got that?
- Yeah.
- Yeah.
- Joyous.
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Right, OK, so that's my big speech over.
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Shame.
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OK, everybody, so welcome to Fun.
Exciting day, exciting times.
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Meanwhile, across town,
in the world of what used to be
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Perfect Curve, momentous
and very different events are unfolding.
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Today I introduce Siobhan Sharpe
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as our new joint CEO and partner in Fun.
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Yay!
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Perfect Curve has been bought
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by Dutch-owned multinational
media giant Fun Media,
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and today chairman and founder Jens Smit
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has flown in to usher in the future.
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- So I know Siobhan has stuff
she's going to say... - Yay!
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- ..but first I'm going to say a bit about Fun.
- Yay!
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So the philosophy of Fun is that
everybody in this building is happy.
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This is a happy building because a
happy person is a creative person,
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and a creative person is a happy person,
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- so that's Fun.
- We love fun.
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You are all fun people. You have
good ideas, that's why you're here.
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When something good happens,
we should recognise this,
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we should be happy.
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So what we do at Fun, George
is ready at any time,
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that's why he is here.
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- Time out. A few minutes,
a silent disco, and we dance
- Cool.
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So a lot of people...
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# Gold!
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- # Always believe in your soul... #
- Yeah.
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♪ You're indestructible... ♪
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♪ Always believe in... ♪
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- OK, so we save this, OK?
- Excuse me?
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We maybe save this for later?
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OK, so we save this, guys, OK?
Save it maybe for later.
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Thanks.
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- So a lot of people say there's
more to life than fun. - Sure.
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- But here, we don't agree with that.
- Nuh. No way.
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- You come in through the door
of this building, OK? - Sure.
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- Fun is your life, and your life...
- Sure.
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Your life is fun, yes?
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Sure. OK? So lots of fun here, guys, OK?
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..a black pair of skinny jeans,
know what I mean?
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Keep it simple.
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Back over at New Broadcasting House,
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the newly formed Renewal Group
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is already facing its
first-ever live challenge.
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This one I like quite a lot.
I like the cut on this.
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For me, what this says,
it's understated.
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You know what I'm saying?
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A Channel 4 documentary
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about ex-Premier League footballer
Ryan Chelford,
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in which he talks openly
for the first time
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about his life as a keen cross-dresser,
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has thrown up some sensitive
issues for the BBC.
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Now, this one, I've had some times
in this, I have.
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If this was a car, right, for me,
this would be a Ferrari.
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You put this on,
something's going to happen,
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do you know what I'm saying?
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The documentary includes allegations
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that the BBC rejected Ryan as a pundit
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for its flagship football show
Match Of The Day
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because they were already
aware of his very-personal other life.
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I went for, like, this audition, right?
I went to Manchester.
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Like, I saw Alan Shearer in the car park.
I didn't speak to him.
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He was on his phone getting
out of his Audi fucking
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you know what I'm saying?
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So I'm sat in the Match Of The Day
studio and everything. There's me,
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and they had these guys, like,
pretend Linekers and that,
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sitting in. And they play in this clip of, like,
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Stoke v Swansea or whatever.
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So, like, Peter Crouch is in the box
and I'm like,
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"OK, he's pulled off his man at the back post.
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"It's a decent header off of
a quality cross, I admit that,
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"but albeit the Swansea defence
has totally switched off.
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"I'm sorry, but for me, the guy's,
like, eight foot tall -
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"it's not rocket science, do you know
what I'm saying?"
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Anyway, so I did that.
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Never heard from them again. Not a word.
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- Right, OK.
- Right.
- I think that will probably do for the moment.
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- Yes.
- Brilliant.
- Brilliant.
- Brilliant.
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What I CAN say, guys, is that we
are starting to take
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heavy incoming on this in
the press office already.
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- Well, yes.
- No.
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I mean, obviously the issues
are potentially pretty serious.
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- Yes.
- Yes, they are, Ian, yes.
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Yes, especially for inclusivity, of course, Lucy.
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- Well, yes.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
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Honestly, no, bad luck.
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- So I spoke to Clive Cook this morning.
- Right?
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- Yes, me too, Lucy.
- Right.
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- Clive...? ALL:
- Clive Cook.
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- Yes, Clive Cook.
- BBC Head of Football.
- Head of BBC Football.
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- Yes, no, brilliant.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
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- Yes.
- Yep.
- So, anyway, I spoke to him this morning.
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- Right, and?
- Well, he...
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He's not very pleased, is he, Lucy?
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- Not really, no.
- No.
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His thing is, the reason they didn't go
for Ryan Chelford on Match Of The Day,
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- they didn't know anything about
his private life at the time. - Yes.
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- Truth is, he was just no good.
- Right.
- Yes, apparently
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- he was too dull.
- Yes.
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Too dull for Match Of The Day?
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- I know, Neil.
- Jesus.
- I'm just telling you what he said.
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Well, but if that's the case, I mean...
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Well, obviously we'll need to be careful
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about exactly how we phrase it.
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Yeah, good luck with that.
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But at least on the allegations
he's making there,
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- well, at least we've got a pretty
clear answer to them. - Yes.
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- Brilliant.
- So that's all good, isn't it?
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- Yes, exactly. - Hurrah.
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- Obviously I wish I could agree with you, Ian.
- Right.
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But I'm sorry, it's not actually that simple,
is it, Lucy?
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- Not really, no.
- No, I had a feeling it might not be.
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- No.
- Brilliant.
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OK, so this will be, like, a really cool new app.
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Like a BBC News Forecast app.
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A news forecast app?
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Meanwhile, back in the land of Fun,
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the old Perfect Curve BBC account
team is having its first meeting
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with Fun CEO Jens Smit.
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So it'll be like the weather forecast,
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but with, like, news, but...
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- No, but...
- OK, no, I get this.
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- But this would be in emojis.
- Emojis.
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- Yeah.
- Cool.
- We LOVE emojis. So fun.
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They're fun. Yeah.
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The team has been joined by
meta genius Michael Chung
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from Fun's New York office,
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and they've been invited to come up
with ideas for a hello present
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from Fun Media to the BBC as one
of their most important clients.
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Yeah, each day would be like,
"Today - Italy, smiley face.
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"Syria, droopy mouth."
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OK.
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Maybe Russia would be like... angry face.
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- OK. What else?
- Yeah, cool.
- OK, Coco.
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- OK, sure?
- Go.
- OK, so in the end, what I came up with
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was BBC Bun Time.
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BBC Bun Time?
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- Cos they're losing Bake Off, right?
- Bummer.
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Which was like a national thing.
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- We LOVE Mary Berry.
- Yeah.
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- Yeah, Mary.
- Yeah, like with her teeth.
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This could be, like, a new thing for her,
where celebrities that create,
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like, their own version of a BBC bun...
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Holy shit.
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No, but then the winning bun...
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OK, what else?
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- OK, Karl.
- Yeah.
- What have you got?
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- OK, so this is pretty cool, OK?
- Cool.
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- So, like, I went for, like, a walk.
- OK, yes.
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It was pretty fun.
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I'm like, "Why don't we just give them,
like, some money?"
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I don't know how much.
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We give them money?
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Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah. Everybody likes...
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- Michael.
- Hey.
- Any thoughts?
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Sure. How about we build them, like,
a really cool
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new BBC online platform,
kind of like a YouTube channel?
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Like it could be, like, BBC Me.
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- BBC Me?
- So TV figures are falling right now.
Like, I don't watch TV.
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Like, I don't even have a TV.
Pretty soon no-one's going to be
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watching TV. Like, it's not even going to be
a thing, so this could be a totally new voice.
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People can upload their own content
onto the BBC brand.
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Cos the BBC is owned by the people, right?
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So this would be like giving them
a part of it back to play with,
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which could be totally cool.
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George.
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Hit Me With Your Rhythm Stick by Ian Dury
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Obviously the danger is if he's actively excluded
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from appearing on Match Of The Day,
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- that could read as an example of prejudice.
- Right.
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- Prejudice?
- Yes.
- Against what?
- Well...
- Against people who are crap?
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Meanwhile, back in Renewal,
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the Ryan Chelford discussion has moved on.
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Ultimately, the LGBT community itself.
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- Yes.
- Right, OK.
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- Yes, exactly.
- Great.
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- As I say, guys, we are looking at an issue here.
- Yes.
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But, anyway, in the end...
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In the circumstances,
the BBC's Head of Football,
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Clive Cook, has agreed to give him
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a one-off trial appearance as a pundit
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on a special midweek FA Cup
third-round highlights edition
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of Match Of The Day, which
very few people will watch.
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The idea being that once people
see for themselves how bad
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he actually is, that could solve
the whole problem in one go.
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- Right, yes.
- Brilliant.
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Yeah, no, can't see anything
going wrong with that.
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Yes, but what he did say to me, Lucy,
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obviously I don't know what he said to you,
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but I don't mind saying,
I get on pretty well with Clive...
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- Right.
- I don't take any nonsense from him.
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- Hurrah.
- And I think he responds to that well.
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Yes, well, anyway...
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Yeah, so what he said to me,
in the circumstances,
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he thought it would be good
if some of the useless senior management
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down in London showed their faces
on the night as well.
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- Right.
- Really?
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I've got to say those were his words.
That's the way Clive talks.
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With the Match Of The Day studios
located in Salford,
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which is itself located
somewhere near Manchester,
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the question now is, if any of the
senior management from London
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are to be usefully present on the night,
which of them should it be?
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I mean, Simon, I don't know if this is
something you feel you want...
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- Yes, no, it's an interesting one, isn't it?
- Yes.
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I mean, I don't know how these things work.
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Honestly, this is so far off my
little patch of scrubby ground.
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- Right.
- But, I mean, Lucy.
- Yes.
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- Yes.
- I mean, you're so on top of all
this inclusivity stuff around this.
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- Well...
- Yes, exactly.
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Cos, I mean, basically it's about
making sure everyone feels
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- - listened to and loved. - I don't know about...
- Loved?
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- Yes, exactly, yes.
- Christ.
- I mean, I don't mind.
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- I'll go up if anyone thinks it'll do
any good, me being there. - Right.
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- Brilliant.
- I have to say, it works for me, Lucy.
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- I may well be useless.
- No.
- Yes.
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- But I'm not sure I really
qualify as senior management.
- Well, that's...
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- Now pish.
- Pash.
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No, I'm not being funny or anything,
Lucy, but I agree.
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- Right.
- I've got to say, I think someone
should be up there with you.
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Right.
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I mean, I'd volunteer to go, obviously,
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but I've got my work cut out
making Huw Edwards
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- feel loved down here already.
- Right.
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- Yes, no, very good, Neil.
- Yes, exactly.
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No, really, well done, you.
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I mean, what day is it we're talking about?
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- It's Tuesday.
- Right.
- Tuesday evening, yes.
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- Tuesday. Tuesday.
- Brilliant.
- I mean, I'm not sure
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whether this is my little patch
of scrubby ground either.
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No.
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- But it's obviously important we get this right.
- OK, alrighty.
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- Brilliant.
- Ian and Lucy.
- Well...
- Hurrah.
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- All hail the Manchester Two.
- Yeah, good luck.
- Brilliant.
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Yes, and the fact is I think I should be there too.
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- What?
- Right.
- Well...
- Really?
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Yes, exactly, yes.
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OK, now we're really rolling.
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I'm not being funny or anything, Anna,
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but we are talking about people
feeling loved here.
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The fact is, this is an opportunity
to put betterness front and centre
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when it actually matters.
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- Brilliant.
- What, front and centre in Manchester?
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- Yes, exactly, yes.
- Right, OK.
- Hurrah.
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Well, so, Ian, Lucy and Anna.
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- All hail.
- Long live the Salford Three.
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- Right.
- Right.
- Blimey.
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Yes, exactly, yes.
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- David.
- Hi, Izzy, yes.
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Look at you, lovely Izzy in your lovely new coat.
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Meanwhile, it's a week later,
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and Development Executive Izzy Gould
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has found herself with an opportunity
to have a moment
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with Commissioning Editor Primetime
Factuality David Wilkes
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- on her way into work.
- I was just going to e-mail you, actually.
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I've got a meeting with Matt Taverner
this afternoon.
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- Right, have you?
- Yes, I know, lovely Matt.
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I know some people don't warm to him
with his glasses and everything,
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- but do you know what?
- What is this about, David?
- Yes, right.
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- I was chatting to him about
On Your Bike the other day.
- On Your Bike?
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- My God, he absolutely loves it, Izzy.
- You talked about On Your Bike
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- to Matt Taverner?
- Do you know what? He's mad about it.
- Right.
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Honestly, when I stopped, he didn't say anything.
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- He sat there nodding his head
to himself, like he does. - Right. - Yes.
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Sixth floor.
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- I mean, that's great, David.
- I know.
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But, I mean, I'm not quite sure how to say this.
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Go on, Izzy, just say. Just say what you think.
Say what's on your mind.
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- But, I mean, On Your Bike
is not actually your idea.
- No.
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It's not even my idea. It's Will Humphries'.
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- I know, yes. Lovely Will.
- Yes, so...
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But do you know what?
It's just such a great idea, Izzy.
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- Yes.
- No, honestly, it is.
- Well, yes.
- It's like I said to Mark -
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- do you know what? Ideas like
this don't come along very often. - No.
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Making sure you're part of making
them happen when they do
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is what being Commissioning Editor
Primetime Factuality
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- is actually about.
- Yes.
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OK, so here's the thing with this.
Here's what it is.
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No-one watches television any more...
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- Well...
- No.
- I mean, like, no-one. OK? Get over it.
- Brilliant.
- Exactly.
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- I think that's perhaps...
- It's over.
- ..a bit of an overstatement.
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- It's not an overstatement.
It's an uber-statement, OK?
- What? - Brilliant.
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Meanwhile, BBC Head of Brand Siobhan
Sharpe has arrived
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to present the BBC with a hello
present to end all hello presents
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from PR giant Fun Media -
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the idea of a completely
new online platform, BBC Me.
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I mean, like, television - what is that?
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- I don't even know what that is.
- Yes, very good.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
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Against the background of a
changing media environment,
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her mission is nothing less than
to introduce the Renewal Group
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to the idea of the future, so that
everybody knows how it works
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and where it's coming from,
and will be able both to recognise it
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and know what to do with it when it arrives.
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- I mean, I can see where
you're going with this, Siobhan.
- You so cannot.
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But just to inject a note of reality
for a moment, I mean,
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nearly 9 million people are watching
Happy Valley at the moment.
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I mean, OK, it's not Morecambe & Wise
any more.
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OK, so I don't even know what that is, OK?
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No, but still, it's a lot of people, that's all.
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OK, so I'm talking about the future here, right?
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- Well...
- OK, and you're talking about the past.
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I'm talking about last Wednesday.
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OK, that's exactly my point.
OK, that's over, right?
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- Well, no, but...
- I've got three words for you, guys.
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U, G and C.
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- Right.
- I'm sorry, Siobhan.
- So User...
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- User generator...
- User generated...
User generated content.
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- Yes, exactly, yes.
- Forget any other words,
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cos you're not going to need them any more.
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- Yeah, so coming back to
the present for a minute...
- Sure.
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- ..which, I'm sorry, is where I am most
of the time. - Yes, me too, Neil.
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- Brilliant.
- What would this BBC Me actually look like?
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- Sure, no, OK.
- How would it actually work?
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OK. OK, OK. Um, so, say you're
into body image, OK?
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Body image?
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- Sure.
- Yes, exactly. I'm not being funny or anything,
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but I don't think that's going to work for Neil.
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I don't know, you say that, Tracey.
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- So say you're into bipolar.
- Into bipolar?
- Sure.
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Right, OK, here we go.
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So you've got issues around
low self-esteem, whatever.
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- Yeah, have I?
- Yes.
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So you upload stuff to BBC Me,
badda bing, you've got a voice.
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- Right.
- OK, and it's YOUR voice, OK?
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But it's also the voice of the BBC,
which is, like, super-cool.
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- Brilliant.
- Brilliant.
- Brilliant.
- Pretty soon, you've got a community.
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Before you know it, you've got
a range of memes.
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- Right, OK.
- Memes?
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I mean, we're in interesting
territory here, aren't we?
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- Are we?
- Yes, exactly.
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- No, glorious, really.
- Although it's not a completely new idea, is it?
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- OK, it totally is, OK?
- I mean, what we're talking about here,
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essentially it's a version of YouTube, isn't it?
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- Excuse me?
- I mean...
- Are we suddenly, like,
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- mainlining 17-year-olds here?
- We're what?
- Like, duh.
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No, I mean, I have to say, I mean, listen,
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- who knows where any of Tony's buttons are?
- No.
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But if anything's going to push
them at the moment,
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- then one has to think that this is it.
- Yes, exactly.
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It so is. Tony who?
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- Tony Hall, Siobhan.
- Sure.
- Director General...
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No, no, no, sure. I'm good with that.
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Yes, although is it just me or
is there an argument for us making
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content for our audience, rather than
them making content for us?
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- Yes.
- I've got to say, I agree with you.
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Yes, no, very good, Ian. Very strong.
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OK, what part of this are you not getting?
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- No, I get it, I just...
- OK, it's over. OK? O-ver. Period.
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I mean, it's like, "Goodbye,
BBC you guys. Hello, BBC Me."
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- Yes.
- Right.
- Great.
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- Yes, no, very good.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
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She gets off those five eggs...
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Later in the day, it's the afternoon,
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and assistant of some kind
Will Humphries is hard at work.
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..takes advantage to fly up to the nest
and check on those eggs.
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But look at this. He's quite...
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But Izzy Gould has stopped by to see him
on a way to a meeting
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she's decided she's going to.
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Will?
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- Hi, Izzy, yeah. Hey.
- Are you busy?
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Yeah, pretty busy, yeah.
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- Right.
- Yeah, so, like, what I'm doing,
I have to watch, like,
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catch-up for Ian Fletcher.
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- Right, catch-up.
- Yeah, I know, mental.
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Like, he's so busy, he doesn't
have time to watch TV,
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so I have to watch stuff for him
and write, like, a report.
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- Right, interesting.
- Yeah, so today I'm watching Springwatch.
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- Right, OK. Springwatch.
- Yeah, the otters have died.
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- Right. Well, that's...
- Yeah, I know, yeah, it's pretty sad.
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Yes. I was actually wondering
if you've got a moment.
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- Yeah, no, say again?
- I was wondering if you're free.
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Yeah, OK, cool.
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So I don't really know what this is about, OK?
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- OK, cool.
- I only found out about it by accident.
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- So it's like what?
- Well, it's a meeting.
- Yeah, meeting.
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- That's all I know.
- Yeah, me too. Yeah, cool.
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Cos the thought I had, and this is
just another thought I had
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about this, Mark, is maybe something
like The Great British Bike Off.
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Meanwhile, David Wilkes is already
some way into his meeting
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with Head of Output Matt Taverner
about On Your Bike,
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and, as usual, he's absolutely full of it.
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So, you have different celebrities racing
against each other each week.
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Yeah, no, sure, that's great.
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But then you have professional judges like...
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- Hey, guys.
- Hi, Matt.
- Good to see you.
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Hey, yeah, good to see you. Yeah, cool.
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- Hi, David.
- Hello, lovely.
- I said to Matt that it would be good
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for Will to be here for this as well.
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- Yes.
- Yeah, I know, sure.
- Since it was actually his idea.
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- Yes, no, lovely.
- Great. Grab a seat, guys, grab a seat.
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Matt has called the meeting in order to bring
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everyone who's coming to it up to speed
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with some recent developments
that have happened
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with the On Your Bike idea.
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Great. So headline is I've got,
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- like, a general catch-up with Anna next week.
- Right, yes.
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- Anna?
- What I'm going to say to her is
I think this could have
452
00:19:03,420 --> 00:19:05,580
- real potential for BBC Me.
- Right.
- Whoa.
453
00:19:05,580 --> 00:19:08,620
- BBC Me? - Yeah, sure.
- Do you know what, Matt?
That's really interesting, Matt.
454
00:19:08,620 --> 00:19:11,580
- But BBC Me, that's like... That's online, isn't it?
- Sure.
455
00:19:11,580 --> 00:19:14,140
That's going to be, like, user generated content.
456
00:19:14,140 --> 00:19:15,860
Yes, it is, Izzy. Yes, that's correct.
457
00:19:15,860 --> 00:19:17,820
So how's that going to work with
something like On Your Bike?
458
00:19:17,820 --> 00:19:19,780
- Sure.
- Which is, like, the exact opposite of that.
459
00:19:19,780 --> 00:19:22,780
- Yeah, no, sure, that's great, Izzy.
We should maybe talk about that.
- Right.
460
00:19:22,780 --> 00:19:25,580
Such is the sudden buzz around
the idea of BBC Me
461
00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:27,900
as a possible future for the BBC,
462
00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:30,540
that Matt is keen to have been
developing ideas in that area
463
00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:31,860
for as long as possible.
464
00:19:31,860 --> 00:19:34,540
I mean, don't get me wrong, Izzy,
I love what you've done here.
465
00:19:34,540 --> 00:19:37,620
- Right.
- Yes.
- Love where you've taken this idea.
- Genius.
- Yeah, me too.
466
00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:40,980
So, yes, what's so great about this,
originally anyway...
467
00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:43,660
- Sure.
- ..is basically it's such a simple idea.
468
00:19:43,660 --> 00:19:46,140
It's like a reinvention of the classic chat show,
469
00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:47,580
but, like, on a bike.
470
00:19:47,580 --> 00:19:49,460
Yeah, no, sure, Izzy. That's great.
471
00:19:49,460 --> 00:19:51,940
So I guess what's really exciting
about this is where we might
472
00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:53,740
- be able to get to with it from here.
- Right.
473
00:19:53,740 --> 00:19:56,580
- Do you know what, Matt?
I'm sat here listening. I'm excited too.
- Sure.
474
00:19:56,580 --> 00:19:59,820
- But, I mean...
- Hey, guys.
- Jack.
- Sorry. Sorry I'm late.
475
00:19:59,820 --> 00:20:02,420
- No, sure.
- Just a couple of Anna things I had to sort out.
- Sure.
476
00:20:02,420 --> 00:20:03,500
Lovely Anna.
477
00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:07,820
- Hi.
- Hi.
- So I asked Jack to look in cos
I know you've had some
478
00:20:07,820 --> 00:20:10,340
- thoughts about this.
- Yeah, sure.
- Right.
479
00:20:10,340 --> 00:20:12,900
- Hello, Will. - Yeah, hey, no worries. Yeah, cool.
480
00:20:34,460 --> 00:20:35,900
- Hi.
- Hi, yes.
481
00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:38,140
- Sorry if I'm late.
- No, you're not. I was early for some reason.
482
00:20:38,140 --> 00:20:40,740
- Well, here we are anyway.
- Yes, here we are, yes.
483
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:41,900
- Who'd have thought it?
- Yes.
484
00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:43,620
Meanwhile, across town,
485
00:20:43,620 --> 00:20:45,900
Lucy and Ian have escaped to Euston Station
486
00:20:45,900 --> 00:20:48,460
to begin a journey that will take
them to Manchester, Salford,
487
00:20:48,460 --> 00:20:50,220
and ultimately all the way
488
00:20:50,220 --> 00:20:53,780
to the midweek Match Of The Day FA Cup
third-round highlights package.
489
00:20:53,780 --> 00:20:55,860
- No sign of Anna yet?
- Not yet, no.
490
00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:58,820
- Right.
- I don't know where she's coming from.
- No, neither do I.
491
00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:03,300
I mean, we've got a bit of time,
shall we go and get...?
492
00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:05,900
- There she is.
- Right, yes. Anna, hi.
- Yes, hi, yes.
493
00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:07,620
- Hi, Anna.
- Yes.
- Great.
494
00:21:07,620 --> 00:21:10,020
- So we're all here.
- Yes.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
495
00:21:10,020 --> 00:21:11,300
I was just asking Lucy,
496
00:21:11,300 --> 00:21:13,260
cos we've actually got a bit of time, haven't we?
497
00:21:13,260 --> 00:21:15,780
- If she wanted to go and get a coffee.
- Yes.
- Yes, exactly, yes.
498
00:21:15,780 --> 00:21:17,860
I'll have a decaf skinny flat white.
499
00:21:17,860 --> 00:21:19,860
- Right, em...
- Not in a cardboard thing.
500
00:21:19,860 --> 00:21:23,020
No, I was actually suggesting us
going and getting a coffee together.
501
00:21:23,020 --> 00:21:26,580
- Yes.
- If that's something...
- Yes, exactly.
- Right, OK. Good.
502
00:21:26,580 --> 00:21:27,620
Yes.
503
00:21:32,420 --> 00:21:35,140
Cos one of the things at the moment,
does this feel a bit...?
504
00:21:35,140 --> 00:21:36,980
I don't know, does it feel a bit television?
505
00:21:36,980 --> 00:21:39,100
- Sure.
- A bit television?
- Yeah.
- Yeah, no, sure.
506
00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:42,420
With a sudden bulge of ideas
for the new BBC Me,
507
00:21:42,420 --> 00:21:45,820
part of Jack's job in betterness
development involves helping
508
00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:49,380
to position ideas like On Your Bike
to achieve maximum effect.
509
00:21:49,380 --> 00:21:52,220
I was thinking, maybe it could be
like loads of different people
510
00:21:52,220 --> 00:21:55,020
on different bikes, like, really fast.
Maybe a couple of words each.
511
00:21:55,020 --> 00:21:56,100
- Sure.
- What?
- My God.
512
00:21:56,100 --> 00:22:00,180
- Cos, basically, what this is,
it could be a selfie on a bike.
- Sure.
513
00:22:00,180 --> 00:22:02,140
- I mean, that's...
- My God. Stop it, Jack.
514
00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:05,540
- You might want to talk about
the title, obviously.
- Yeah, I know, sure. That's great.
515
00:22:05,540 --> 00:22:09,780
- But, sorry, Matt, but...
- Izzy, yep.
- That's, like, I don't really know where to start.
- Sure.
516
00:22:09,780 --> 00:22:12,420
- It's like we're not talking about
this any more now.
- No, sure.
517
00:22:12,420 --> 00:22:14,940
This is not what Will came to me with.
This is something else.
518
00:22:14,940 --> 00:22:17,620
Yeah, no, sure, that's great.
I guess the question to think about,
519
00:22:17,620 --> 00:22:21,020
- cos it feels to me like we're
on a journey now with this.
- Right.
- Yes, we are, Matt, yes.
520
00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:23,180
I mean, I don't know, I'm just putting
this out there.
521
00:22:23,180 --> 00:22:26,740
- I guess something to think about is
whether or not that's a journey
you want to go on. - Yes.
522
00:22:26,740 --> 00:22:30,940
Whatever you guys decide, OK, I completely
get that, OK? Cos this is absolutely your thing.
523
00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:32,060
Right.
524
00:22:33,340 --> 00:22:35,820
- I think maybe Will and I need to talk about this.
- No, sure.
525
00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:37,340
Yeah, no worries, yeah, cool.
526
00:22:47,660 --> 00:22:50,260
There was no passing.
There was no energy about
527
00:22:50,260 --> 00:22:53,540
their game. It made it easier than
it should have been for the two...
528
00:22:53,540 --> 00:22:56,100
- Here he is.
- Clive, hi.
- Hi, yes.
529
00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:58,460
- Ian Fletcher.
- Yeah, hi, Ian. Really good to meet you.
530
00:22:58,460 --> 00:23:01,420
Meanwhile, Ian, Lucy and Anna hav
got to the end of the line
531
00:23:01,420 --> 00:23:03,620
and have arrived at the Match Of The Day studios
532
00:23:03,620 --> 00:23:05,700
in the heart of Manchester, Salford.
533
00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:06,940
- You know Anna.
- Hello.
534
00:23:06,940 --> 00:23:09,180
Well, we've not met, but it's really good to meet you.
535
00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:11,300
- Yes, exactly, yes.
- And Lucy, of course.
- Hi.
536
00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:14,820
- Hi, Lucy.
- Lucy Freeman.
- Good to meet you at last.
- Yes, you too.
537
00:23:14,820 --> 00:23:17,740
- We've spent that much time on the phone and the bloody e-mail.
- I know.
538
00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:19,740
- It's great to be able to...
- Yes, exactly, yes.
539
00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:21,420
As the BBC's Head of Football
540
00:23:21,420 --> 00:23:23,500
and Match Of The Day's Senior
Executive Producer,
541
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:26,340
Clive Cook is the man responsible
for imagining everything that
542
00:23:26,340 --> 00:23:30,060
could possibly go wrong with the
BBC's flagship live sport show.
543
00:23:30,060 --> 00:23:32,900
- And then we spent
the whole evening rehearsing.
- Right.
544
00:23:32,900 --> 00:23:35,380
- So how's it going?
- How's it going?
- Yes, how's it going?
545
00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:37,540
- I mean with Ryan.
- Yes, exactly, with Ryan, yes.
546
00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:40,420
- Well, we got through the tech, somehow.
- Right.
547
00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:43,020
I have to say, we weren't sure
how this was going to go initially,
548
00:23:43,020 --> 00:23:45,100
but I think we're at a point now
where we can say
549
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,620
- with some confidence that he is naturally crap.
- Right.
550
00:23:47,620 --> 00:23:49,460
It's just something he's got in him, I think.
551
00:23:49,460 --> 00:23:51,300
- Right, yes.
- Right.
- Yeah.
552
00:23:51,300 --> 00:23:53,500
No, I mean, not a great night for Southampton
553
00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:56,060
by any means. But Norwich came here
with a clear intention,
554
00:23:56,060 --> 00:23:57,860
they kept their shape and they worked hard.
555
00:23:57,860 --> 00:23:59,580
They had a plan and I guess they stuck to it.
556
00:23:59,580 --> 00:24:01,740
Yeah, you've got to give them credit for that, Gary.
557
00:24:01,740 --> 00:24:03,060
In the end, they got the result,
558
00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:05,540
which I'm sure they'd have taken
before the start of the game.
559
00:24:05,540 --> 00:24:07,180
By 10.35, the waiting is over
560
00:24:07,180 --> 00:24:08,580
and it's time for Match Of The Day.
561
00:24:08,580 --> 00:24:10,260
Ryan, I know you were less than impressed
562
00:24:10,260 --> 00:24:12,060
with some of Southampton's defending.
563
00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:15,180
- Yeah, I was, Gary. Yeah, I was.
- Right.
564
00:24:15,180 --> 00:24:18,420
Well, for me, they were poor. For me,
that's unacceptable.
565
00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:21,220
I think you've got some examples that
you wanted to highlight.
566
00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:23,420
Yeah, I have, yeah. Well, for me,
they were poor, Gary.
567
00:24:23,420 --> 00:24:25,020
For me, when you're poor at this level,
568
00:24:25,020 --> 00:24:26,620
you're going to end up getting beat.
569
00:24:26,620 --> 00:24:28,620
Yes, they got a draw, but, I'm sorry, for me,
570
00:24:28,620 --> 00:24:30,820
that's not a win in my book.
571
00:24:30,820 --> 00:24:33,740
Right. I know you've been looking
in particular at their defensive
572
00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:34,900
shape at the back.
573
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:38,020
Yeah, I have, yeah. OK, right, so, if you look here...
574
00:24:38,020 --> 00:24:40,220
No, wait. There's a bit where if...
575
00:24:40,220 --> 00:24:41,780
Yeah, here we go.
576
00:24:41,780 --> 00:24:44,500
Right, so, you've got your basic diamond, right?
577
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,060
What happens if...
578
00:24:46,060 --> 00:24:48,780
Yeah, so, Yoshida, he's in
the channel on the left. No.
579
00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:49,820
On the right.
580
00:24:49,820 --> 00:24:53,860
Yeah. Bertrand's over here, look.
Hang on a minute. Here we go.
581
00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:56,340
He's in the hole behind Hojbjerg,
582
00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:58,860
who's gone all the way over here instead...
Now look.
583
00:24:58,860 --> 00:25:01,340
Where's he going? Look, there he goes. Look.
584
00:25:01,340 --> 00:25:03,820
No, wait, is that Van Dijk? Yeah.
585
00:25:03,820 --> 00:25:07,300
Whereas Ward-Prowse is basically left
trying to make a diamond
586
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,260
on his own, which, for me, I'm sorry,
he's not going to do that.
587
00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:12,180
I mean, it's not a diamond now anyway, is it?
588
00:25:12,180 --> 00:25:14,780
I mean, what is that? It's more... It's kind of...
589
00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:18,220
Now, look, it's gone all... It's not...
I mean, what is that?
590
00:25:18,220 --> 00:25:21,460
It's not even a shape, it's just like a pointy line.
591
00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:22,700
I'm sorry, but, for me,
592
00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:25,420
you're not going to win games
at this level with pointy lines, Gary.
593
00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:27,540
- Right.
- I mean, if these were actual cars, right,
594
00:25:27,540 --> 00:25:30,660
this would literally be a car crash,
do you know what I'm saying?
595
00:25:30,660 --> 00:25:33,100
It's poor. For me, I'm sorry, that's not acceptable.
596
00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:36,700
Yes. OK, well, three more games
still to come tonight,
597
00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:39,740
and plenty of football to look forward
to at the weekend in
598
00:25:39,740 --> 00:25:43,260
the Premier League, of course,
with third place Arsenal taking on...
599
00:25:47,380 --> 00:25:50,380
Given where Salford is in relation
to anywhere else,
600
00:25:50,380 --> 00:25:53,260
it was always going to be too late
to get back to London.
601
00:25:53,260 --> 00:25:55,180
- There you go, Mr Fletcher, 305.
- Right.
602
00:25:55,180 --> 00:25:58,140
- Would you like any help with your luggage, or...?
- No.
- 305.
603
00:25:58,140 --> 00:26:00,020
Yes, you're all next to each other, actually.
604
00:26:00,020 --> 00:26:02,340
- Right.
- Is that going to be OK for you today?
- Yes, I mean...
605
00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:05,140
- As I say, if you would like any help with your...
- No, I don't want that.
606
00:26:05,140 --> 00:26:07,020
OK. Well, enjoy your night with us tonight.
607
00:26:07,020 --> 00:26:08,620
- Yes, exactly.
- Yes.
- Yes.
608
00:26:12,580 --> 00:26:14,820
Yes, I know he did.
609
00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:16,780
I know he was.
610
00:26:16,780 --> 00:26:18,140
I know it hasn't.
611
00:26:18,140 --> 00:26:19,940
No, I know you're not.
612
00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:22,060
At last, in the unashamedly budget hotel
613
00:26:22,060 --> 00:26:25,180
booked by the BBC, Ian has got
a moment at the end of the day
614
00:26:25,180 --> 00:26:28,300
to enjoy some quiet nuts and
an uninterrupted phone call
615
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:31,260
from Senior BBC Press Officer Tracey Pritchard,
616
00:26:31,260 --> 00:26:34,340
who has phoned to bring him up
to speed with the bad feeling she's got
617
00:26:34,340 --> 00:26:35,580
about how things have gone.
618
00:26:35,580 --> 00:26:36,820
Yes, I know.
619
00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:39,540
No, I'm sure you haven't.
620
00:26:40,940 --> 00:26:44,540
Listen, Tracey, it's 00.45.
Let's sleep on it and regroup in...
621
00:26:44,540 --> 00:26:47,140
Yes, I know it is. ..Yes, OK.
622
00:26:47,140 --> 00:26:51,060
Yes, speak to you in... No, I know it hasn't.
623
00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:52,500
Speak to you in the morning.
624
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:53,940
OK. Bye.
625
00:26:53,940 --> 00:26:56,180
Bye.
626
00:26:56,180 --> 00:26:57,900
- Hi.
- Hi.
627
00:26:57,900 --> 00:27:01,020
- Sorry, I don't want to...
- No, no.
- If you were...
- No, come in.
628
00:27:01,020 --> 00:27:03,780
- I mean, if you are still up.
- Yes, well, apparently I am, yes.
629
00:27:03,780 --> 00:27:06,580
- No, I was just talking to Tracey.
- Right, yes. How is she?
630
00:27:06,580 --> 00:27:09,700
- Well, apparently Ryan Chelford
is now trending on Twitter.
- Yes.
631
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:11,380
- #FootballSexy.
- Yes, I saw that.
632
00:27:11,380 --> 00:27:13,300
Yes, but at the same time, according to Tracey,
633
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:16,100
the complaints log have received
over 400 calls from football fans.
634
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,020
- Right.
- Apparently the highest number of
complaints in a single evening
635
00:27:19,020 --> 00:27:20,820
ever recorded in peacetime, or something.
636
00:27:20,820 --> 00:27:23,060
- Really? Dear.
- Yes, anyway, so that's all good.
637
00:27:23,060 --> 00:27:24,980
Yes.
638
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:27,540
- Anyway.
- Yes.
639
00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:30,500
- So?
- No, I don't want to disturb you.
640
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:34,060
No, that's OK. I mean, do you want
a glass of vaguely white wine?
641
00:27:34,060 --> 00:27:36,900
- Well...
- You might as well.
I'm never going to get through all this.
642
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,180
- No, it was just... So I got this e-mail earlier.
- Right.
643
00:27:39,180 --> 00:27:41,780
- I don't know if you got it too.
- An e-mail about what?
644
00:27:41,780 --> 00:27:43,580
Well, it... Well, this.
645
00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:47,660
No, right. No, I didn't get this.
646
00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:50,620
Lucy has just found out that as part of the BBC's
647
00:27:50,620 --> 00:27:52,140
new More Of Less initiative,
648
00:27:52,140 --> 00:27:54,780
a key part of its preparation for Charter renewal,
649
00:27:54,780 --> 00:27:57,660
a new post of Head of Empowerment
is to be created,
650
00:27:57,660 --> 00:28:00,380
combining both the existing roles
of Head of Diversity
651
00:28:00,380 --> 00:28:04,220
and Head of Inclusivity, which are
to be unimagined going forward.
652
00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:06,500
- Sorry, when did you get this?
- About an hour ago.
653
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:08,580
- Right.
- Yes, so I didn't really feel like sleeping.
654
00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:11,020
No. I mean, do sit down, obviously.
655
00:28:11,020 --> 00:28:12,500
I mean, I don't know what to say.
656
00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:15,700
- No, well...
- Needless to say, this is the first I've heard of it.
657
00:28:17,420 --> 00:28:19,100
What the hell's that?
658
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:20,740
- I'm sorry, I don't...
- No.
659
00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:23,700
-
- No.
- I don't know what...
- No, yes.
660
00:28:28,340 --> 00:28:29,540
Anna.
661
00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:30,820
- Hi.
- Yes, exactly.
662
00:28:30,820 --> 00:28:32,940
- The fact is, I'm not drunk.
- No, right.
663
00:28:34,860 --> 00:28:37,260
- Yes, so...
- Yes, hi, Anna.
- Yes.
- Yes.
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