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Operator:
Emergency services.
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Jeffery:
I need an ambulance.
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544 Castle Drive.
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Is that on or off coast?
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544 Castle Drive.
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I'M GOING AROUND BACK.
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Officer:
YES, SIR.
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NO.
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GET WOMACK ASAP!
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WE NEED AN AMBULANCE.
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YES, SIR!
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MOBILE UNIT
TO WOMACK HOSPITAL.
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10-2.
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[ COUGHING ]
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HE'S STILL ALIVE! GET THAT
AMBULANCE HERE ON THE DOUBLE!
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YES, SIR!
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[ Muffled ] LET'S GO!
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OH, MY GOD.
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WHAT'S IN HERE?
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[ INDISTINCT CHATTER ]
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Man:
DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING.
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Man: LIFT.
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[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ]
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Woman: JOE?
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS?
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[ KNOCKS ON DOOR ]
[ BABY GURGLES ]
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UM, HEY,
DO YOU MIND TAKING HIM?
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MM-HMM.
COME HERE.
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HERE YOU GO.
GO TO MAMA.
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[ GROANS ] DID YOU HEAR BACK
FROM LESLIE YET?
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NO, NOT YET.
IT'S OKAY, JUST DO YOUR WORK.
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TRY CALLING LESLIE AGAIN.
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CALL THE SERVICE.
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WHEN YOU WANT TO TAKE
A BREAK, COME FIND US.
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OKAY, GREAT,
THANK YOU.
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OKAY. OKAY.
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BYE, DADDY!
BYE.
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[ BABY COOS ]
COME ON, LITTLE MUNCHKIN.
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LET'S GO PLAY.
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Woman: Service.
UMM, HI, YEAH.
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THIS IS JOE McGINNISS.
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CAN I HAVE
MY MESSAGES, PLEASE?
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Bruce Howard's office
called to say
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they are passing
on the article,
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but they want to hear
whatever you have next.
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[ SIGHS ]
OKAY.
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UMM, ANYTHING ELSE?
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Mr. Rayburn's
office called at Knopf.
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Still no information about
a tour for the Alaska book,
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but they will let you know
when there is some.
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OKAY.
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ANYTHING ELSE?
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Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald called.
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He's a big fan of
"Selling of the President,"
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and he'd like to
talk to you
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about covering his trial
in North Carolina.
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Do you want the number?
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YEAH.
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YEAH, I'LL TAKE THE NUMBER.
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AND GIVE ME THE NUMBER
FOR "THE EXAMINER" ARCHIVES.
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I WANT TO READ MORE
ABOUT MacDONALD
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BEFORE I MEET HIM.
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[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ]
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STEFAN.
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GOOD TO SEE YOU.
[ LAUGHS ]
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JOE?
Joe:YEAH.
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JEFF MacDONALD.
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HEY.
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I APPRECIATE
YOU REACHING OUT.
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I DON'T KNOW VERY MUCH
ABOUT YOUR CASE.
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I CAN HUM A FEW BARS,
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BUT I HAVEN'T DONE
ANY SERIOUS RESEARCH ON IT.
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OKAY, SO
WHAT DO YOU KNOW?
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THERE WAS A TRAGEDY.
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YOU LOST
YOUR WIFE AND KIDS.
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THE ARMY ACCUSES YOU
OF THE CRIME,
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THEN THEY
CHANGE THEIR MINDS.
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THEY CLEAR YOU.
YOU GET AN HONORABLE DISCHARGE.
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AND NOW, SOMEHOW
AFTER NINE YEARS,
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YOU'RE BEING DRAGGED
BACK TO NORTH CAROLINA
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TO STAND TRIAL
IN THREE WEEKS.
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YEAH,
THAT'S ABOUT RIGHT.
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SO, AFTER NINE YEARS,
WHY IS THIS COMING BACK AROUND?
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IT WAS ALL OVER.
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BUT I SPOKE TO THE PRESS.
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I WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE
WHO I WAS,
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HEAR ME TALK ABOUT
WHAT HAPPENED,
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HOW THE ARMY DRAGGED ME
THROUGH A TRIAL
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AFTER WHAT HAPPENED
TO COLETTE AND MY KIDS.
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I SPOKE OUT AGAINST
THE ARMY ON TV.
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AND FOR ME,
AS AN EX-GREEN BERET.
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THEN THE ARMY CAME AROUND
FOR A SECOND WHACK AT ME.
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FREDDY KASSAB,
MY FATHER-IN-LAW...
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HE TESTIFIED ON YOUR BEHALF
ORIGINALLY, RIGHT?
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THAT'S A GOOD MEMORY
FOR JUST HUMMING A FEW BARS.
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SO HE STARTED TO TELL ANYONE
WHO WOULD LISTEN TO HIM
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THAT I WAS GUILTY,
THAT I DID IT.
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AND HERE WE ARE.
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I NEED SOMEONE TO HELP ME
TELL MY STORY.
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I WANT YOU
TO WRITE THE BOOK.
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I MEAN,
I'M A JOURNALIST.
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I DON'T DO
"AS TOLD TO" BOOKS.
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I WANT REAL REPORTING.
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I WANT YOU TO TEAR
EVERYTHING UP SO THAT NONE
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OF THESE QUESTIONS
EVER GETS ASKED AGAIN.
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THAT'S WHY I CALLED YOU.
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I WANT THE TRUTH.
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SO, YOU WANT ME TO COVER
THE TRIAL IN NORTH CAROLINA?
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YES, COVER EVERYTHING,
NOT JUST THE TRIAL.
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BUT BE WITH ME, SEE WHAT
IT'S LIKE ON THE INSIDE.
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SEE WHAT I'M GOING THROUGH
FOR AS LONG AS IT TAKES.
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UMM...
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[ SIGHS ] LOOK.
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I GOT A LOT OF IRONS
ON THE FIRE RIGHT NOW, I --
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JOE, LOOK, I MOVED
DOWN TO CALIFORNIA
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BECAUSE I NEEDED TO
GET AWAY.
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I KNOW HOW I COME OFF.
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I DRIVE A NICE CAR.
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I DATE A PRETTY GIRL.
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A FANCY CAR JUST GETS YOU
AROUND, MAN,
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AND THE OCEAN'S
JUST A VIEW.
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NONE OF THAT CAN FILL THE HOLE
OF LOSING YOUR FAMILY.
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NONE OF THAT.
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Joe: LESLIE,
THERE'S NO QUESTION
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THERE'S SOMETHING VERY WEIRD
GOING ON ABOUT THIS CASE.
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IT TAKES THE GOVERNMENT
FOUR YEARS TO GET AN INDICTMENT.
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AND THEN IT TAKES THEM
ANOTHER FIVE YEARS
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TO ACTUALLY
BRING HIM TO TRIAL
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IN NORTH CAROLINA
IN A FEW WEEKS.
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SO FROM WHERE I'M SITTING,
THIS FEELS LIKE
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A NINE-YEAR-LONG
KAFKA-TYPE ORDEAL FOR THIS GUY.
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NINE YEARS?
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WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHT
TO A SPEEDY TRIAL?
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JEFFREY MacDONALD'S DEFENSE TEAM
TOOK THAT
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ALL THE WAY
TO THE SUPREME COURT AND LOST.
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WHAT ABOUT DOUBLE JEOPARDY? YOU
CAN'T TRY HIM TWICE, CAN YOU?
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AND THAT'S THE SECOND ISSUE THAT
MADE IT TO THE SUPREME COURT.
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BUT THEY REFUSED
TO REVIEW IT
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BECAUSE HE WAS NEVER
ACTUALLY TRIED BY THE ARMY.
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HMM.
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HOW ABOUT JEFFREY MacDONALD?
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HOW DOES HE STRIKE YOU?
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I MEAN, YOU ALMOST WANT
TO HATE THE GUY AT FIRST
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BECAUSE HE LOOKS MORE
LIKE A MOVIE STAR
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THAN MOST MOVIE STARS DO,
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BUT THEN YOU REALIZE
AT SOME POINT THAT HE'S HAUNTED.
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I MEAN, YOU CAN SEE IT
IN HIS EYES.
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HIS WIFE AND CHILDREN
WERE SLAUGHTERED.
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I MEAN, WHAT FATHER COULD
DO THAT TO HIS OWN KIDS?
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SO, WHAT'S THE ANGLE?
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MY ANGLE?
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WHAT'S YOUR ANGLE?
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I'M NOT SURE
ABOUT MY ANGLE YET,
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BUT THERE MIGHT BE
SOMETHING TO THE ARMY,
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AND NOW THE FEDS
PERSECUTING HIM.
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IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME, AND
THEY'RE STILL GOING AFTER HIM.
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NO, I'M GOOD.
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HAVING ACCESS TO JEFFREY
AND THIS TRIAL
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COULD MEAN
ANOTHER BOOK AS BIG AS
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"SELLING THE PRESIDENT."
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IT COULD BE, RIGHT?
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HE WANTS ME ON EVERY DEFENSE
MEETING, EVERY GAMEPLAN SESSION.
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HE WANTS ME TO LIVE WITH HIM,
FOR GOD SAKES.
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ARE YOU JUST HOPPING
INTO BED WITH THIS GUY?
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NO, I'M GONNA
GO DOWN THERE,
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AND I'M GONNA LISTEN
TO HIS STORY
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WITH MY B.S.
METER SET ON HIGH.
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ALL RIGHT, EVEN THOUGH
I'M A JOURNALIST,
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I HAVE SOME INTEGRITY.
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[ LAUGHS ]
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COME ON!
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WE BOTH WANT ANOTHER
"SELLING OF THE PRESIDENT,"
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BUT I WOULD BE LYING IF I
TOLD YOU THIS SMELLS LIKE THAT.
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WHAT ELSE DO I HAVE,
LESLIE?
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Woman over loudspeaker:
Dr. Harper, you are needed
in the E.R.
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WHAT DO WE GOT?
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STAB WOUND,
ULNER ARTERY.
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HOW LONG AGO?
ABOUT HALF HOUR.
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ALL RIGHT,
LET'S TAKE A LOOK.
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[ GROANING ]
OLD FAITHFUL THERE, HUH?
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CLAMP, PLEASE, AND LET'S
GET A LARGE POLE I.V. STARTED.
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THANK YOU.
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NURSE, OXYGEN.
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YOU OKAY?
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YOU TELL ME.
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OH, YEAH,
WE GOT YOU COVERED.
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THERE WE GO.
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ALL RIGHT, LET'S GET
HIM OUT OF HERE.
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Dr. Silverman, line three.
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Dr. Silverman, line three.
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WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?
H-HOW DID YOU FIND ME?
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I JUST CAME HERE TO TELL YOU
I'LL DO IT.
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I'M GONNA COME
TO NORTH CAROLINA.
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THAT'S FANTASTIC.
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LISTEN, I'M GONNA NEED
TWO THINGS.
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I WANT FULL ACCESS
AND FULL FREEDOM
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TO WRITE ACCORDING
TO MY OWN JUDGMENT.
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I'M GOING TO ASK YOU
SOME TOUGH QUESTIONS,
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AND YOU MIGHT NOT
LIKE ME VERY MUCH.
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DR. MacDONALD?
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ABSOLUTELY.
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WE CAN -- WE CAN GO OVER
ALL THE DETAILS
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AND TRAVEL,
ALL THAT, TOMORROW.
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GOOD.
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HEY, THEY'RE THROWING ME
A SEND-OFF PARTY.
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YOU HAVE TO PROMISE ME
TO COME.
241
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SURE.
242
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ALL RIGHT.
243
00:11:04,197 --> 00:11:05,797
I LIKE YOU ALREADY, JOE.
244
00:11:05,799 --> 00:11:06,998
BUT YOU COULD HAVE
JUST CALLED.
245
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Dr. Benson --
Dr. Benson --
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[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATION ]
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Man: I HAD NO IDEA.
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YEAH, EVERYONE.
250
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[ LAUGHTER ]
251
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dd
252
00:11:33,193 --> 00:11:35,326
IT MEANS THE WORLD
THAT YOU'RE HERE.
253
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[ INDISTINCT CHATTER ]
254
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[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]
255
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Woman:
ONE MORE, PLEASE.
256
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[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]
YEAH.
257
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[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]
258
00:11:47,808 --> 00:11:50,442
[ LAUGHS ] MAY I HAVE
EVERYONE'S ATTENTION, PLEASE?
259
00:11:50,444 --> 00:11:54,979
JEFF, IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING
HOW MUCH WE ALL BELIEVE IN YOU,
260
00:11:54,981 --> 00:11:57,449
BUT TO SHOW YOU JUST
HOW MUCH WE LOVE YOU,
261
00:11:57,451 --> 00:11:58,717
WE GOT YOU A LITTLE SOMETHING.
262
00:11:58,719 --> 00:12:01,052
WELL,
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE.
263
00:12:01,054 --> 00:12:08,259
[ LAUGHS ] ALL RIGHT, THIS --
OH, MY GOODNESS.
264
00:12:08,261 --> 00:12:10,061
HERE.
HUH?
265
00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:13,865
[ LAUGHTER ]
THANK YOU.
266
00:12:13,867 --> 00:12:15,366
AND THANK YOU ALL
FOR COMING.
267
00:12:15,368 --> 00:12:16,634
WOW, IT MEANS
THE WORLD TO ME.
268
00:12:16,636 --> 00:12:18,603
I'M SURE I'LL BE BACK HERE
IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS,
269
00:12:18,605 --> 00:12:22,540
BUT UNTIL THEN, DRINK
EVERYTHING WE GOT HERE.
270
00:12:26,463 --> 00:12:29,998
[ DOG BARKS IN DISTANCE ]
271
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[ BABY COOING ]
272
00:12:33,854 --> 00:12:36,621
YEAH, YEAH,
COME HERE, COME HERE.
273
00:12:36,623 --> 00:12:39,390
OH, SWEET BOY.
274
00:12:39,392 --> 00:12:41,225
I'M SORRY.
275
00:12:41,227 --> 00:12:44,095
DADDY'S GOTTA GO DO
SOME WORK, OKAY?
276
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I'LL SEE YOU SOON.
277
00:12:46,366 --> 00:12:47,865
I'LL SEE YOU SOON.
278
00:12:47,867 --> 00:12:51,619
[ BABY COOING ]
[ IMITATES NIBBLING ]
279
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[ HORN HONKS ]
BYE, SWEETIE.
280
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[ BABY GURGLES ]
281
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[ SOMBER MUSIC PLAYS ]
282
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dd
283
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[ DOOR OPENS, SHUTS ]
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dd
285
00:13:27,824 --> 00:13:31,142
dd
286
00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:33,111
[ ENGINE SHUTS OFF ]
287
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dd
288
00:13:41,755 --> 00:13:42,887
[ SUITCASE THUDS ]
289
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[ KNOCKS ]
290
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dd
291
00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:52,130
Jeffery:
I JUST -- I WISH THEY WERE MORE
APPROPRIATE TO YOUR STANDARDS.
292
00:13:52,132 --> 00:13:54,065
I THINK IT'S --
[ DOOR SHUTS ]
293
00:13:54,067 --> 00:13:55,132
JOE!
Joe: HEY.
294
00:13:55,134 --> 00:13:56,251
JOE, I'M SO EXCITED YOU'RE HERE.
295
00:13:56,253 --> 00:13:58,703
LOOK AT --
THIS IS GREAT, HEY.
296
00:13:58,705 --> 00:13:59,721
YOU JUST CAUGHT US
AT COCKTAIL HOUR.
297
00:13:59,723 --> 00:14:01,072
YOU CLEANED UP.
298
00:14:01,074 --> 00:14:03,508
YEAH, IT'S -- WELL, WE GOT A BIG
COUPLE WEEKS COMING UP, HUH?
299
00:14:03,510 --> 00:14:05,076
YEAH.
COME ON, COME MEET EVERYBODY.
300
00:14:05,078 --> 00:14:06,744
JOE, THIS IS MY MOM.
THIS IS PERRY.
301
00:14:06,746 --> 00:14:07,745
OH, MR. McGINNISS.
302
00:14:07,747 --> 00:14:09,280
NICE TO MEET YOU.
303
00:14:09,282 --> 00:14:10,798
AND THIS IS --
THIS IS BERNIE SEGAL,
304
00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:11,966
OUR FEARLESS LEADER.
305
00:14:11,968 --> 00:14:13,418
BERNIE HAS BEEN MY GUY
SINCE THE BEGINNING.
306
00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:14,869
IS THAT RIGHT?
307
00:14:14,871 --> 00:14:16,037
UHH, BERNIE,
NICE TO MEET YOU.
308
00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:17,956
I'VE HEARD ABOUT YOUR WORK
WITH THE WAR PROTESTORS.
309
00:14:17,958 --> 00:14:19,490
GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US.
310
00:14:19,492 --> 00:14:21,376
YOU CAN HELP US WITH
THE PUBLIC FACE OF ALL THIS.
311
00:14:21,378 --> 00:14:22,994
WE SURE HOPE SO.
312
00:14:22,996 --> 00:14:24,796
AND JOE, THIS IS WADE SMITH,
ATTORNEY AT LAW.
313
00:14:24,798 --> 00:14:26,130
VERY NICE TO MEET YOU.
314
00:14:26,132 --> 00:14:27,282
THANK WADE'S COLLEGE
CONNECTIONS FOR LANDING US HERE
315
00:14:27,284 --> 00:14:28,399
AT THIS FRAT HOUSE.
316
00:14:28,401 --> 00:14:30,201
GUILTY AS CHARGED.
YEAH.
317
00:14:30,203 --> 00:14:32,170
IT'S NOT IDEAL,
BUT IT'S A LOT MORE
318
00:14:32,172 --> 00:14:33,354
PRIVATE
THAN A HOTEL WOULD BE.
319
00:14:33,356 --> 00:14:36,057
WADE, I TOLD YOU
HE WAS GONNA BE HERE.
320
00:14:36,059 --> 00:14:37,008
YES.
321
00:14:37,010 --> 00:14:39,911
YES, YOU DID.
322
00:14:39,913 --> 00:14:41,379
LET ME GUESS.
323
00:14:41,381 --> 00:14:42,914
SCOTCH AND SODA?
324
00:14:42,916 --> 00:14:44,649
WHAT SODA?
THAT'S WHAT I LIKE TO HEAR.
325
00:14:44,651 --> 00:14:46,551
MOM?
[ LAUGHS ]
326
00:14:46,553 --> 00:14:48,436
YOU KNOW, IT'S FUNNY BEING BACK
ON A COLLEGE CAMPUS.
327
00:14:48,438 --> 00:14:50,772
COLETTE AND I GOT MARRIED
WHEN I WAS IN PRINCETON.
328
00:14:50,774 --> 00:14:51,923
REALLY?
329
00:14:51,925 --> 00:14:53,858
WHEN WAS THE FIRST TIME
YOU MET COLETTE?
330
00:14:53,860 --> 00:14:58,096
[ LAUGHS ] THAT'S CRAZY,
BUT I WAS 12 YEARS OLD.
331
00:14:58,098 --> 00:15:00,415
12, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE IT.
332
00:15:00,417 --> 00:15:04,102
IT TOOK A FEW MORE YEARS
TO FALL IN LOVE.
333
00:15:04,104 --> 00:15:08,907
[ DOORBELL RINGS ]
d SHA LA LA LA LA LA d
334
00:15:08,909 --> 00:15:10,708
ARE YOU NERVOUS?
335
00:15:10,710 --> 00:15:12,810
NO.
336
00:15:12,812 --> 00:15:14,429
WELL, MAYBE.
337
00:15:14,431 --> 00:15:15,580
MM-HMM.
[ LAUGHS ]
338
00:15:15,582 --> 00:15:16,814
[ "BABY IT'S YOU" BY THE
SHIRELLES PLAYING ]
339
00:15:16,816 --> 00:15:20,451
HELLO, HELLO.
WELCOME.
340
00:15:20,453 --> 00:15:22,086
MERRY CHRISTMAS.
341
00:15:22,088 --> 00:15:23,354
LOOK AT YOU.
OH!
342
00:15:23,356 --> 00:15:24,405
MRS. KASSAB, HOW ARE YOU?
343
00:15:24,407 --> 00:15:25,306
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU.
344
00:15:25,308 --> 00:15:27,225
WHERE'S YOUR COAT?
345
00:15:27,227 --> 00:15:28,326
WE DIDN'T THINK IT WAS
GONNA BE SO COLD.
346
00:15:28,328 --> 00:15:29,460
IT'S FREEZING.
347
00:15:29,462 --> 00:15:31,296
Jeffery: AND THIS IS --
THIS IS THE TWO OF YOU.
348
00:15:31,298 --> 00:15:32,630
Mr. Kassab:
MM-HMM, SAYING GOODBYE.
349
00:15:32,632 --> 00:15:33,998
AND THIS ONE IS YOU,
AS WELL.
350
00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,833
YES, THAT'S ME RIGHT OUT
OF OFFICER'S SCHOOL,
351
00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:41,072
AND THE ONE ABOVE IS AFTER
A FEW MONTHS IN EUROPE.
352
00:15:41,074 --> 00:15:43,074
WOW.
SO, HOW'S PRINCETON?
353
00:15:43,076 --> 00:15:44,175
HARD WORK.
354
00:15:44,177 --> 00:15:45,843
HECK OF A NICE CAMPUS,
JUST BEAUTIFUL.
355
00:15:45,845 --> 00:15:46,978
TA-DA!
DINNER IS SERVED.
356
00:15:46,980 --> 00:15:49,514
OH, MY, MY, MY.
LOOK AT THAT TURKEY.
357
00:15:49,516 --> 00:15:50,815
IT'S HEAVY.
358
00:15:50,817 --> 00:15:52,216
Jeffery: FREDDY WAS ACTUALLY
COLETTE'S STEPFATHER,
359
00:15:52,218 --> 00:15:54,585
BUT COLETTE ABSOLUTELY
ADORED FREDDY.
360
00:15:54,587 --> 00:15:56,604
SHE NEVER CALLED HIM
ANYTHING BUT DAD,
361
00:15:56,606 --> 00:15:58,222
AND WHEN SHE DECIDED
THAT SHE LOVED ME,
362
00:15:58,224 --> 00:15:59,824
AND I WAS PART OF THE FAMILY,
363
00:15:59,826 --> 00:16:01,926
FREDDY ABSOLUTELY
WELCOMED ME IN.
364
00:16:01,928 --> 00:16:06,864
d ABOUT YOU
SHA LA LA LA LA d
365
00:16:06,866 --> 00:16:11,369
d THEY SAY THEY SAY YOU NEVER,
NEVER, NEVER, NEVER BEEN TRUE d
366
00:16:11,371 --> 00:16:12,270
OH, THANK YOU.
367
00:16:12,272 --> 00:16:14,806
IS THAT A CURTSY?
368
00:16:14,808 --> 00:16:19,110
d DOESN'T MATTER
WHAT THEY SAY I KNOW d
369
00:16:19,112 --> 00:16:24,415
d I'M GONNA LOVE YOU
ANY OLD WAY WHAT CAN I DO d
370
00:16:24,417 --> 00:16:29,187
d WHEN IT'S TRUE
DON'T WANT NOBODY, d
371
00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:33,474
d NOBODY 'CAUSE BABY,
IT'S YOU d
372
00:16:33,476 --> 00:16:36,561
[ MOANS ]
373
00:16:36,563 --> 00:16:39,230
d BABY, IT'S YOU d
374
00:16:39,232 --> 00:16:40,331
[ GIGGLES ]
375
00:16:40,333 --> 00:16:43,001
d BABY, IT'S YOU d
376
00:16:43,003 --> 00:16:44,268
WHAT
IS IT ABOUT HER?
377
00:16:46,706 --> 00:16:50,174
SHE WAS THE NICEST
PERSON I EVER MET.
378
00:16:50,176 --> 00:16:51,476
ALL RIGHT, I HAVE
A SURPRISE FOR YOU?
379
00:16:51,478 --> 00:16:53,277
WHAT?
WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
380
00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:54,512
COME ON.
KEEP YOUR EYES CLOSED.
381
00:16:54,514 --> 00:16:56,347
CAREFUL.
382
00:16:56,349 --> 00:16:59,617
DON'T PEEK.
383
00:16:59,619 --> 00:17:01,386
OKAY,
YOU STAY RIGHT HERE.
384
00:17:01,388 --> 00:17:03,454
KEEP YOUR EYES CLOSED.
385
00:17:03,456 --> 00:17:05,957
WHAT DID YOU DO?
386
00:17:05,959 --> 00:17:07,958
Jeffery:
OKAY, OPEN 'EM.
387
00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,628
Colette: [ GASPS ]
OH, MY GOD.
388
00:17:10,630 --> 00:17:13,181
WHAT DO YOU THINK
OF THAT BEAUTY?
389
00:17:13,183 --> 00:17:15,867
THIS MUST HAVE
COST A FORTUNE.
390
00:17:15,869 --> 00:17:17,535
JEFF, YOU CAN'T KEEP
DOING THINGS LIKE THIS.
391
00:17:17,537 --> 00:17:21,072
I LOVE WATCHING YOU
GET EXCITED.
392
00:17:21,074 --> 00:17:22,757
CAN I PLAY IT?
OF COURSE.
393
00:17:22,759 --> 00:17:25,209
THIS IS ALL YOURS, BABE.
394
00:17:25,211 --> 00:17:26,711
[ LAUGHS ]
WE WERE A GOOD TEAM.
395
00:17:26,713 --> 00:17:28,579
YOU KNOW, WE KNEW HOW TO
TAKE CARE OF THE GIRLS
396
00:17:28,581 --> 00:17:31,115
AND GIVE EACH OTHER
THE SPACE WE NEEDED, TOO.
397
00:17:31,117 --> 00:17:35,203
HOW'D YOU DO THAT,
HAVE YOUR OWN SPACE?
398
00:17:35,205 --> 00:17:36,938
COLETTE, SHE NEVER
FINISHED COLLEGE,
399
00:17:36,940 --> 00:17:40,007
AND SHE STARTED GETTING
INTERESTED IN PSYCHOLOGY,
400
00:17:40,009 --> 00:17:42,093
CHILD DEVELOPMENT CLASSES.
401
00:17:42,095 --> 00:17:45,296
SO SHE DID THAT A COUPLE
OF NIGHTS A WEEK,
402
00:17:45,298 --> 00:17:47,932
AND I'D TAKE CARE
OF THE GIRLS.
403
00:17:47,934 --> 00:17:49,534
ALL RIGHT.
DADDY.
404
00:17:49,536 --> 00:17:52,003
FOR YOU.
405
00:17:52,005 --> 00:17:53,671
FOR YOU.
MM.
406
00:17:53,673 --> 00:17:56,407
Girl: THANK YOU, DADDY.
407
00:17:56,409 --> 00:18:02,146
[ HORN HONKS ]
408
00:18:02,148 --> 00:18:05,216
OKAY. BYE, GIRLS.
I LOVE YOU.
409
00:18:05,218 --> 00:18:06,684
BYE, SWEETIE.
HAVE FUN.
410
00:18:06,686 --> 00:18:07,985
YEAH, I LOVE YOU.
411
00:18:07,987 --> 00:18:09,654
d BUT IT'S TOO LATE d
412
00:18:09,656 --> 00:18:11,789
d TOO LATE TO CRY d
ALL RIGHT,
413
00:18:11,791 --> 00:18:13,925
WHO'S GONNA WANT
ANOTHER HOT DOG?
414
00:18:13,927 --> 00:18:15,426
ME!
ME!
415
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:18,012
Joe:
WHAT'D YOU DO FOR SPACE?
416
00:18:18,014 --> 00:18:19,397
I GOT INTO BOXING.
417
00:18:19,399 --> 00:18:20,581
BOXING?
YEAH.
418
00:18:20,583 --> 00:18:23,101
OKAY, JOE FRAZIER.
419
00:18:23,103 --> 00:18:24,185
HARDLY.
420
00:18:24,187 --> 00:18:26,571
I WAS THE DOCTOR
FOR THE BASE BOXING TEAM.
421
00:18:26,573 --> 00:18:29,273
I CAUGHT THE BUG AND STARTED
TRAINING WITH THEM.
422
00:18:29,275 --> 00:18:30,842
THEY WERE GETTING
READY FOR THIS --
423
00:18:30,844 --> 00:18:33,678
THIS BIG COMPETITION
IN RUSSIA.
424
00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:34,645
[ GRUNTING ]
IT WAS A BIG TRIP.
425
00:18:34,647 --> 00:18:35,980
I'D BE GONE
FOR ABOUT A MONTH.
426
00:18:35,982 --> 00:18:38,282
COLETTE WAS GONNA LET YOU
GO TO RUSSIA FOR A MONTH.
427
00:18:38,284 --> 00:18:39,967
[ LAUGHS ] YEAH.
428
00:18:39,969 --> 00:18:41,486
SHE WAS ALL FOR IT.
429
00:18:41,488 --> 00:18:43,721
REALLY MY BIGGEST CONCERN
WAS MAKING WEIGHT FOR THE MATCH.
430
00:18:43,723 --> 00:18:44,889
I DIDN'T WANT TO LOOK
LIKE A JOKER
431
00:18:44,891 --> 00:18:47,525
IN FRONT OF
THE YOUNGER GUYS.
432
00:18:47,527 --> 00:18:49,510
I REMEMBER THAT AFTERNOON.
433
00:18:49,512 --> 00:18:52,847
I CAME HOME FROM WORK,
434
00:18:52,849 --> 00:18:57,568
AND IT WAS A 24-HOUR SHIFT
IN AN OFF-BASE E.R.
435
00:18:57,570 --> 00:19:00,388
I WAS FIRING
ON ALL CYLINDERS.
436
00:19:00,390 --> 00:19:02,290
[ DISTANT ] HELLO.
Girls: [ DISTANT ] DADDY!
437
00:19:02,292 --> 00:19:03,925
[ GIGGLING ]
438
00:19:03,927 --> 00:19:06,561
I FELT LIKE A SUPERHERO,
YOU KNOW?
439
00:19:13,102 --> 00:19:15,619
AND IT HAPPENED
LATER THAT NIGHT.
440
00:19:15,621 --> 00:19:20,191
dd
441
00:19:20,193 --> 00:19:22,827
SOME SUPERHERO.
442
00:19:26,749 --> 00:19:30,902
dd
443
00:19:30,904 --> 00:19:32,537
[ KNOCKING ]
444
00:19:32,539 --> 00:19:35,906
MR. McGINNISS?
445
00:19:35,908 --> 00:19:38,259
JOE.
OKAY.
446
00:19:38,261 --> 00:19:39,777
JOE.
447
00:19:39,779 --> 00:19:42,613
UMM, WHEN JEFFREY PACKED UP
THE HOUSE AT FORT BRAGG,
448
00:19:42,615 --> 00:19:44,832
I HELD ONTO SOME
OF THE FAMILY THINGS.
449
00:19:44,834 --> 00:19:48,152
IT'S SOME OLD HOME MOVIES.
450
00:19:48,154 --> 00:19:50,655
ANYTHING I CAN TAKE
A LOOK AT HELPS.
451
00:19:50,657 --> 00:19:53,658
I KNOW YOU'RE BUSY,
BUT PLEASE WATCH THESE
452
00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:58,896
SO THAT YOU CAN REALLY SEE MY
GRANDDAUGHTERS AND OUR FAMILY.
453
00:19:58,898 --> 00:20:02,650
THEY WERE BEAUTIFUL.
454
00:20:02,652 --> 00:20:12,410
dd
455
00:20:12,412 --> 00:20:16,781
[ CLICKING ]
456
00:20:21,037 --> 00:20:26,641
dd
457
00:20:26,643 --> 00:20:28,826
[ LIGHT CLICKS ]
458
00:20:28,828 --> 00:20:30,228
[ PROJECTOR REEL CLICKING ]
459
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:40,004
dd
460
00:20:40,006 --> 00:20:50,014
dd
461
00:20:50,016 --> 00:20:59,340
dd
462
00:20:59,342 --> 00:21:01,976
[ PROJECTOR REEL CLICKING ]
463
00:21:27,787 --> 00:21:30,421
THAT WAS A DAY
I'LL NEVER FORGET.
464
00:21:30,423 --> 00:21:31,405
[ PROJECTOR STOPS ]
SO SORRY.
465
00:21:31,407 --> 00:21:32,823
I CAN --
I CAN WATCH THIS LATER.
466
00:21:32,825 --> 00:21:35,426
NO, NO, IT'S OKAY.
467
00:21:35,428 --> 00:21:40,164
UMM, WHERE DID
YOU GET THESE?
468
00:21:40,166 --> 00:21:41,966
YOUR MOTHER.
469
00:21:44,454 --> 00:21:46,320
PLEASE, GO AHEAD.
I WANT TO SEE THEM.
470
00:21:46,322 --> 00:21:47,872
YOU SURE?
YEAH.
471
00:21:51,961 --> 00:21:54,312
[ PROJECTOR REEL CLICKING ]
472
00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:07,675
SO THAT'S KRISTEN?
473
00:22:07,677 --> 00:22:10,594
YEAH, I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME
WE BROUGHT HER HOME.
474
00:22:10,596 --> 00:22:12,763
ALL KIMBERLY WANTED TO DO
WAS HOLD HER.
475
00:22:12,765 --> 00:22:15,466
SHE REALLY JUST WANTED
TO PINCH HER.
476
00:22:15,468 --> 00:22:17,268
SHE WAS SO JEALOUS.
477
00:22:26,312 --> 00:22:28,746
AND THAT DAY, WOW.
478
00:22:28,748 --> 00:22:31,615
THAT WAS A GREAT DAY.
479
00:22:31,617 --> 00:22:33,884
COLETTE AND I TOOK THE GIRLS
TO VISIT THEIR PONY.
480
00:22:41,127 --> 00:22:43,494
I THINK THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME
KRISTEN WAS EVER ON A HORSE.
481
00:22:50,036 --> 00:22:54,705
HOW LONG WAS THIS
BEFORE THE NIGHT THEY DIED?
482
00:22:59,712 --> 00:23:03,214
IT'D BE A MONTH BEFORE THEY
DIED, MAYBE NOT EVEN.
483
00:23:10,473 --> 00:23:15,309
[ FILM FLIPPING ]
484
00:23:15,311 --> 00:23:17,461
[ PROJECTOR STOPS ]
485
00:23:23,035 --> 00:23:27,138
HOW MANY KIDS
DO YOU HAVE, JOE?
486
00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:29,140
ME, I HAVE FOUR.
487
00:23:29,142 --> 00:23:32,410
I HAVE A LITTLE BOY
NAMED MATTHEW WITH MY WIFE
488
00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:35,846
AND THREE FROM
A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE.
489
00:23:35,848 --> 00:23:38,949
HOW OFTEN DO YOU
GET TO SEE THEM?
490
00:23:38,951 --> 00:23:43,454
UMM --
NOT AS MUCH AS I'D LIKE.
491
00:23:43,456 --> 00:23:47,792
I MET NANCY WHILE I WAS
STILL MARRIED, SO...
492
00:23:51,130 --> 00:23:56,133
I TRY, BUT --
493
00:23:56,135 --> 00:23:57,768
TRUST ME.
494
00:23:57,770 --> 00:23:59,603
SPEND AS MUCH TIME
WITH THEM AS YOU CAN.
495
00:24:03,759 --> 00:24:04,942
OKAY.
496
00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:10,414
UMM, YOU WANT TO TELL ME
WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT?
497
00:24:10,416 --> 00:24:13,317
THE NIGHT THEY DIED?
498
00:24:13,319 --> 00:24:15,219
SURE.
499
00:24:15,221 --> 00:24:20,291
[ PAPER RUSTLES ]
500
00:24:20,293 --> 00:24:22,526
ONE OF THE GIRLS HAD WET
MY SIDE OF THE BED.
501
00:24:22,528 --> 00:24:25,463
IT WAS LATE.
502
00:24:25,465 --> 00:24:27,798
THOUGHT IT'D BE EASIER
TO SLEEP IN THE LIVING ROOM
503
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,901
THAN CHANGE THE SHEETS.
504
00:24:30,903 --> 00:24:34,038
DAD, WHY ARE THEY
DOING THIS TO ME?
505
00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,440
THIS IS GROOVY.
506
00:24:36,442 --> 00:24:38,309
KILL THE PIGS.
DADDY!
507
00:24:38,311 --> 00:24:42,663
ACID RAIN.
DADDY!
508
00:24:42,665 --> 00:24:44,281
[ THUD! ]
509
00:24:44,283 --> 00:24:46,183
[ CLATTERING ]
510
00:24:46,185 --> 00:24:50,421
[ BLOWS LAND ]
511
00:24:50,423 --> 00:24:54,258
[ ECHOING LAUGHTER ]
512
00:25:01,534 --> 00:25:05,135
[ GRUNTS ]
513
00:25:05,137 --> 00:25:07,204
COLETTE?
514
00:25:07,206 --> 00:25:09,907
[ GRUNTS ]
515
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:17,515
dd
516
00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:19,550
[ Shakily ] OKAY.
517
00:25:19,552 --> 00:25:22,386
OH, GOD.
NO, NO.
518
00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:24,121
COME ON.
COME ON.
519
00:25:24,123 --> 00:25:26,023
OH, GOD.
520
00:25:26,025 --> 00:25:30,160
[ COUGHS ]
[ PANTING ]
521
00:25:30,162 --> 00:25:33,314
[ Sobbing ] OH, GOD, NO.
522
00:25:33,316 --> 00:25:34,448
HELP ME.
523
00:25:34,450 --> 00:25:40,087
[ SOBS ]
524
00:25:40,089 --> 00:25:41,956
OH, GOD.
NO.
525
00:25:41,958 --> 00:25:45,960
NO, NO, NO, NO.
526
00:25:45,962 --> 00:25:49,330
[ SOBBING ]
527
00:25:52,301 --> 00:25:57,988
[ SOBBING ] NO.
528
00:26:01,727 --> 00:26:05,396
[ SOBBING ]
529
00:26:05,398 --> 00:26:08,132
[ ROTARY TELEPHONE SPINS,
DIALS ]
530
00:26:08,134 --> 00:26:09,934
Operator:
Emergency services.
531
00:26:09,936 --> 00:26:11,402
I NEED AN AMBULANCE.
532
00:26:11,404 --> 00:26:13,604
544 CASTLE DRIVE.
533
00:26:13,606 --> 00:26:16,540
Is that on or off Coast?
534
00:26:16,542 --> 00:26:18,709
544 CASTLE DRIVE.
535
00:26:18,711 --> 00:26:21,712
HELP. HURRY.
536
00:26:21,714 --> 00:26:23,280
[ PHONE CLATTERS ]
537
00:26:25,451 --> 00:26:28,786
[ SOBBING ]
538
00:26:28,788 --> 00:26:38,228
dd
539
00:26:38,230 --> 00:26:40,397
I WAS PROBABLY IN SHOCK.
540
00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:42,883
I DIDN'T REALIZE
AT THE TIME,
541
00:26:42,885 --> 00:26:46,637
BUT WHEN THEY EXAMINED ME
LATER AT THE HOSPITAL,
542
00:26:46,639 --> 00:26:50,407
ONE OF MY LUNGS
WAS PARTIALLY COLLAPSED.
543
00:26:50,409 --> 00:26:53,544
YOU KNOW,
COLETTE WAS PREGNANT.
544
00:26:53,546 --> 00:26:56,847
dd
545
00:27:03,723 --> 00:27:05,623
[ KNOCKS ]
MS. MacDONALD?
546
00:27:05,625 --> 00:27:08,258
JUST -- I WANTED TO THANK YOU
FOR THE HOME MOVIES.
547
00:27:08,260 --> 00:27:12,296
YOU WERE RIGHT, THEY WERE
A BEAUTIFUL FAMILY.
548
00:27:12,298 --> 00:27:14,164
DID YOU SEE THE ONE
WITH COLETTE
549
00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:16,767
LEAVING THE HOSPITAL
WITH KRISTEN?
550
00:27:16,769 --> 00:27:17,801
I DID, YEAH.
551
00:27:17,803 --> 00:27:20,638
THAT MUST HAVE BEEN
A SPECIAL DAY.
552
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,106
DIDN'T JEFFREY TELL YOU
WHAT HAPPENED?
553
00:27:23,108 --> 00:27:25,476
NO, HE DIDN'T TELL ME
WHAT HAPPENED.
554
00:27:27,513 --> 00:27:30,014
JEFFREY WAS AT THE HOSPITAL
WITH COLETTE
555
00:27:30,016 --> 00:27:32,166
NOT LONG AFTER
SHE HAD GIVEN BIRTH.
556
00:27:32,168 --> 00:27:35,552
KRISTEN HAD BEEN
AN EMERGENCY C-SECTION.
557
00:27:35,554 --> 00:27:43,727
JEFFREY ALL OF A SUDDEN GETS
THIS SERIOUS LOOK ON HIS FACE.
558
00:27:43,729 --> 00:27:46,046
HE JUST KNEW
SOMETHING WAS WRONG.
559
00:27:46,048 --> 00:27:48,866
THE WAY THAT REALLY GOOD DOCTORS
KNOW THESE THINGS.
560
00:27:48,868 --> 00:27:50,851
SHE HAD BLED ALMOST
HALF OF THE BLOOD
561
00:27:50,853 --> 00:27:54,672
FROM HER ENTIRE BODY
INTO HER ABDOMEN.
562
00:27:54,674 --> 00:27:57,257
BUT HE CAUGHT IT IN TIME.
563
00:27:57,259 --> 00:28:00,644
JEFFREY SAVED HER LIFE
THAT DAY, NO QUESTION.
564
00:28:00,646 --> 00:28:02,179
UMM, NO, YEAH.
565
00:28:02,181 --> 00:28:05,516
HE DIDN'T --
HE DIDN'T TELL ME THAT.
566
00:28:05,518 --> 00:28:07,217
HE DOESN'T LIKE TO
TELL PEOPLE.
567
00:28:09,121 --> 00:28:11,538
COLETTE WOULD HAVE DIED.
568
00:28:11,540 --> 00:28:15,325
JEFFREY SAVED HER LIFE.
569
00:28:15,327 --> 00:28:17,811
WELL, THANK GOD
HE WAS THERE.
570
00:28:24,770 --> 00:28:26,370
GENTLEMEN?
SORRY TO DISTURB YOU.
571
00:28:26,372 --> 00:28:29,940
CAN I GRAB THE TRANSCRIPTS FROM
THE ARTICLE 32 HEARING, PLEASE?
572
00:28:32,778 --> 00:28:34,078
SURE, YOU BET.
573
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,114
GREAT.
574
00:28:37,116 --> 00:28:40,250
[ SIGHS ]
575
00:28:40,252 --> 00:28:42,186
SAY, IS THERE A PROBLEM
WITH ME, WADE?
576
00:28:44,090 --> 00:28:46,090
ACTUALLY, YES, THERE IS.
577
00:28:46,092 --> 00:28:49,693
SEE, I'M TRYING TO KEEP MY
CLIENT OUT OF JAIL, AND YOU --
578
00:28:51,697 --> 00:28:53,864
SEE, WHEN JEFF
LOOKS AT YOU,
579
00:28:53,866 --> 00:28:56,350
HE SEES SOMEONE
WHO CAN SAVE HIS IMAGE.
580
00:28:56,352 --> 00:28:58,502
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT YOU,
I SEE SOMEONE
581
00:28:58,504 --> 00:29:00,287
WHO'S BEEN DINING OUT
ON THE SAME SUCCESS
582
00:29:00,289 --> 00:29:01,872
FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS.
583
00:29:01,874 --> 00:29:06,376
SOMEONE WHO'S ONLY INTERESTED IN
JOE McGINNISS'S NEXT BESTSELLER.
584
00:29:06,378 --> 00:29:08,128
CAN'T IT BE BOTH, WADE?
585
00:29:08,130 --> 00:29:09,947
WADE, TAKE IT EASY.
586
00:29:09,949 --> 00:29:11,548
JOE'S ON OUR SIDE.
587
00:29:11,550 --> 00:29:15,135
RIGHT, JOE?
588
00:29:15,137 --> 00:29:18,071
THANK YOU, BERNIE.
589
00:29:18,073 --> 00:29:21,191
DO REPORTERS TAKE SIDES,
JOE?!
590
00:29:24,897 --> 00:29:27,030
[ PAPERS RUSTLING ]
591
00:29:45,484 --> 00:29:46,650
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]
592
00:29:46,652 --> 00:29:51,488
[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ]
593
00:29:51,490 --> 00:29:52,923
Man: BLOOD SPLATTER
RIGHT HERE.
594
00:29:57,596 --> 00:29:58,996
Man #2: MARK IT SEVEN.
595
00:29:58,998 --> 00:30:00,998
Man #3: HERE.
596
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,999
Man #4: MARK THAT ONE.
597
00:30:02,001 --> 00:30:03,333
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING ]
598
00:30:03,335 --> 00:30:06,469
[ INDISTINCT CHATTER ]
599
00:30:06,471 --> 00:30:14,878
dd
600
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,830
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]
601
00:30:16,832 --> 00:30:19,683
[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ]
602
00:30:19,685 --> 00:30:26,623
dd
603
00:30:26,625 --> 00:30:28,859
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING ]
604
00:30:28,861 --> 00:30:33,797
[ MUSIC CLIMBS ]
605
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:37,050
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKING ]
606
00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:42,773
dd
607
00:30:42,775 --> 00:30:47,777
dd
608
00:30:47,779 --> 00:30:51,415
[ SIGHS ]
609
00:30:51,417 --> 00:30:54,852
IT WAS A DISASTER.
610
00:30:54,854 --> 00:30:56,119
THE ARMY INVESTIGATION.
611
00:30:56,121 --> 00:30:58,005
[ CHUCKLES ]
612
00:30:58,007 --> 00:30:59,890
COFFEE?
613
00:30:59,892 --> 00:31:02,359
YEAH.
614
00:31:06,148 --> 00:31:07,431
SO TELL ME.
615
00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:10,300
WHAT WAS
YOUR FAVORITE PART?
616
00:31:10,302 --> 00:31:12,219
I MEAN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW
WHERE TO BEGIN.
617
00:31:12,221 --> 00:31:14,454
NO CONTROL
OF THE CRIME SCENE.
618
00:31:14,456 --> 00:31:16,039
EVERY PIECE OF
THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE
619
00:31:16,041 --> 00:31:18,408
POTENTIALLY CONTAMINATED.
620
00:31:18,410 --> 00:31:22,045
OR HOW ABOUT NO ONE THOUGHT
TO TAKE HAIR SAMPLES
621
00:31:22,047 --> 00:31:25,065
FROM THE VICTIMS
UNTIL AFTER THE FUNERALS?
622
00:31:25,067 --> 00:31:27,584
[ LAUGHS ] THEY GOT THEIR HAIR
EXEMPLARS FROM OLD CLOTHES,
623
00:31:27,586 --> 00:31:31,104
WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE
TOTALLY UNRELIABLE.
624
00:31:31,106 --> 00:31:33,423
THE HAIR SAMPLE THEY HAD
MARKED AS JEFF'S --
625
00:31:33,425 --> 00:31:35,259
TURNED OUT TO BE
THE FAMILY PONY'S.
626
00:31:35,261 --> 00:31:37,094
WELL, THEY WERE BOTH
BRUNETTES.
627
00:31:37,096 --> 00:31:38,629
WHAT ABOUT THE
FINGERPRINT TECHNICIAN
628
00:31:38,631 --> 00:31:39,997
WHEN HE DEVELOPED THE FILM?
629
00:31:39,999 --> 00:31:42,432
PHOTOS THAT WERE SO BLURRY,
THEY COULDN'T EVEN USE THEM.
630
00:31:42,434 --> 00:31:45,452
IT WAS THE OLYMPICS
OF INCOMPETENCE.
631
00:31:45,454 --> 00:31:47,004
AND NOW YOU KNOW.
632
00:31:47,006 --> 00:31:48,071
WELL, THAT'S YOUR MOVE,
RIGHT?
633
00:31:48,073 --> 00:31:49,539
I MEAN, THE GOVERNMENT
HAS NO CASE.
634
00:31:49,541 --> 00:31:51,341
[ Laughing ] OH, NO.
635
00:31:51,343 --> 00:31:53,644
WE GOT SOMETHING
TO TOP IT ALL.
636
00:31:53,646 --> 00:31:56,680
HELENA STOECKLEY,
THE GIRL IN THE FLOPPY HAT.
637
00:31:56,682 --> 00:31:57,681
YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
638
00:31:57,683 --> 00:31:59,883
WE KNOW WHO SHE IS.
639
00:31:59,885 --> 00:32:04,087
SHE WAS A LOCAL KID,
17 AT THE TIME, AN ARMY BRAT.
640
00:32:04,089 --> 00:32:05,872
HER FATHER WAS A CAPTAIN.
641
00:32:05,874 --> 00:32:07,524
SHE WAS A HIPPIE.
642
00:32:07,526 --> 00:32:09,493
HEAVY INTO DRUGS.
643
00:32:09,495 --> 00:32:13,163
AND SHE CONFESSED
TO BEING THERE.
644
00:32:13,165 --> 00:32:14,698
YOU'RE KIDDING ME.
NO.
645
00:32:14,700 --> 00:32:15,766
ONE OF THE MPs THAT CAME
TO THE HOUSE
646
00:32:15,768 --> 00:32:17,534
THAT NIGHT SAID HE SAW HER.
647
00:32:17,536 --> 00:32:20,837
HE TOLD HIS SERGEANT
ABOUT WHAT HE SAW.
648
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:23,740
HIS SERGEANT
DIDN'T FOLLOW UP.
649
00:32:23,742 --> 00:32:25,108
DO YOU KNOW WHERE SHE IS?
650
00:32:25,110 --> 00:32:26,576
NO, WE'RE LOOKING FOR HER.
651
00:32:26,578 --> 00:32:30,897
BUT WE HAVE SIGNED AFFIDAVITS
FROM SIX SEPARATE INDIVIDUALS
652
00:32:30,899 --> 00:32:32,833
WHO HELENA STOECKLEY TOLD
653
00:32:32,835 --> 00:32:35,052
SHE WAS AT JEFF'S HOUSE
DURING THE MURDERS.
654
00:32:35,054 --> 00:32:39,506
AND THAT SHE WATCHED IT
ALL HAPPEN.
655
00:32:39,508 --> 00:32:41,725
I FILED A MOTION
WITH THE JUDGE.
656
00:32:41,727 --> 00:32:47,814
THE JURY WILL HEAR
ALL OF THIS.
657
00:32:47,816 --> 00:32:50,667
[ INSECTS CHIRPING ]
ALL RIGHT, SO THE PROSECUTION.
658
00:32:50,669 --> 00:32:54,271
WHO ARE THESE GUYS?
IT'S YOUR BET, JOE.
659
00:32:54,273 --> 00:32:57,707
[ CHIPS CLINKING ]
WELL, ANTE UP, BOYS.
660
00:32:57,709 --> 00:32:58,692
BLACKBURN.
661
00:32:58,694 --> 00:33:00,110
THIS GUY IS STRAIGHT
OUT OF MAYBERRY.
662
00:33:00,112 --> 00:33:01,678
IT'S HIS FIRST
MURDER TRIAL.
663
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,096
THEY BROUGHT HIM IN
TO TAKE THE EDGE OFF
664
00:33:03,098 --> 00:33:07,684
OF BRIAN MURTAGH WHO'S BEEN
ON JEFF SINCE DECEMBER OF '71.
665
00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:10,620
HE'S FREDDY KASSAB'S MUSCLE,
HIS ATTACK DOG.
666
00:33:10,622 --> 00:33:12,873
WELL, IF THEY SAY JEFF
DID IT, HOW AND WHY?
667
00:33:12,875 --> 00:33:15,359
EXACTLY, HOW AND WHY
DOES AN IVY LEAGUE,
668
00:33:15,361 --> 00:33:18,462
GREEN BERET DOCTOR
ONE NIGHT SNAP
669
00:33:18,464 --> 00:33:20,597
AND KILL HIS WHOLE FAMILY?
670
00:33:20,599 --> 00:33:22,565
NEVER BEEN IN
ANY KIND OF TROUBLE.
671
00:33:22,567 --> 00:33:25,686
HE'S A PILLAR
IN HIS COMMUNITY.
672
00:33:25,688 --> 00:33:29,523
AND ONE NIGHT, HE GOES
LOONEY TUNES AND JUST EXPLODES?
673
00:33:29,525 --> 00:33:31,041
AND GET THIS.
674
00:33:33,245 --> 00:33:36,346
THEY SAY HE GOT THE IDEA
FROM A MAGAZINE
675
00:33:36,348 --> 00:33:38,882
THEY FOUND IN THE HOUSE
THAT HAD AN ARTICLE
676
00:33:38,884 --> 00:33:41,852
ABOUT THE MANSON FAMILY IN IT,
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT?
677
00:33:41,854 --> 00:33:43,120
AND THAT'S WHAT
THEY'RE GOING WITH?
678
00:33:43,122 --> 00:33:44,488
THIS IS THE DRUM
679
00:33:44,490 --> 00:33:47,657
BRIAN MURTAGH HAS BEEN
BEATING FOR EIGHT YEARS.
680
00:33:47,659 --> 00:33:48,809
HE WAS ON A WITCH HUNT.
681
00:33:48,811 --> 00:33:50,510
MURTAGH'S A SON OF A BITCH.
HE'S A VIPER.
682
00:33:50,512 --> 00:33:53,030
THE MAN IS A MENACE.
683
00:33:53,032 --> 00:33:54,131
RIGHT.
684
00:33:54,133 --> 00:33:58,952
[ CHIPS CLACKING ]
685
00:33:58,954 --> 00:34:01,438
I'M ALL-IN.
686
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,240
[ Chuckling ] WHOA.
687
00:34:03,242 --> 00:34:05,642
I FOLD.
688
00:34:05,644 --> 00:34:08,145
I'M OUT.
689
00:34:17,890 --> 00:34:22,192
I FOLD.
690
00:34:22,194 --> 00:34:25,362
[ EXHALES ]
691
00:34:25,364 --> 00:34:28,765
[ SNIFFS ]
692
00:34:32,438 --> 00:34:34,204
[ BIRDS CHIRPING ]
693
00:34:34,206 --> 00:34:37,691
[ INDISTINCT CONVERSATIONS ]
694
00:34:37,693 --> 00:34:40,210
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]
695
00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:48,618
dd
696
00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:52,589
MR. MURTAGH.
697
00:34:52,591 --> 00:34:54,758
WE MEET AGAIN.
698
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,526
AND AGAIN.
699
00:34:56,528 --> 00:34:59,346
UNTIL WE GET IT RIGHT.
700
00:34:59,348 --> 00:35:00,764
DR. MacDONALD.
701
00:35:00,766 --> 00:35:02,632
HOW DO YOU LIKE BEING BACK
IN NORTH CAROLINA?
702
00:35:02,634 --> 00:35:04,000
[ CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS ]
703
00:35:04,002 --> 00:35:06,203
dd
704
00:35:06,205 --> 00:35:08,004
Segal: COME ON, JEFF.
705
00:35:12,411 --> 00:35:13,560
HE SEEMS CONFIDENT.
706
00:35:16,715 --> 00:35:19,583
THE GOVERNMENT WILL SHOW
THAT IN THE EARLY MORNING
707
00:35:19,585 --> 00:35:24,488
OF FEBRUARY 17, 1970,
JEFFREY MacDONALD,
708
00:35:24,490 --> 00:35:27,157
FOR REASONS WE MIGHT
NEVER UNDERSTAND,
709
00:35:27,159 --> 00:35:29,593
DID IN FACT, ATTACK, BLUDGEON,
710
00:35:29,595 --> 00:35:31,661
AND STAB HIS WIFE
AND HIS TWO DAUGHTERS TO DEATH.
711
00:35:31,663 --> 00:35:36,566
AND THEN STAGED HIS HOME
TO LOOK AS THOUGH
712
00:35:36,568 --> 00:35:38,869
IT WAS THE WORK OF INTRUDERS.
713
00:35:38,871 --> 00:35:41,955
COOKING UP A STORY
ABOUT MURDEROUS HIPPIES
714
00:35:41,957 --> 00:35:46,143
TO TRY TO THROW SUSPICION
OFF HIMSELF.
715
00:35:46,145 --> 00:35:48,578
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
OF THE JURY,
716
00:35:48,580 --> 00:35:50,347
AT THE HEART OF OUR CASE
717
00:35:50,349 --> 00:35:51,982
IS THE PROPOSITION
718
00:35:51,984 --> 00:35:54,684
THAT PEOPLE CAN TWIST THE TRUTH,
719
00:35:54,686 --> 00:35:57,120
BUT THAT THINGS DO NOT LIE.
720
00:35:57,122 --> 00:36:01,858
AND WE WILL PROVE THAT THERE IS
NO OTHER EXPLANATION
721
00:36:01,860 --> 00:36:04,127
FOR HOW THOSE VIBRANT
LITTLE GIRLS
722
00:36:04,129 --> 00:36:05,729
AND THEIR MOTHER
COULD HAVE DIED
723
00:36:05,731 --> 00:36:07,964
EXCEPT AT THE HANDS
OF THEIR OWN FATHER.
724
00:36:10,335 --> 00:36:13,570
THE GOVERNMENT HAS A BAD CASE.
725
00:36:13,572 --> 00:36:15,939
BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE
A GOOD VILLAIN.
726
00:36:15,941 --> 00:36:18,942
WHAT THEY DO HAVE IS
A LOVING FATHER AND HUSBAND,
727
00:36:18,944 --> 00:36:23,163
NOT TO MENTION A DOCTOR
AND A GREEN BERET.
728
00:36:23,165 --> 00:36:27,384
THIS IS A STORY OF A MAN'S LIFE
THAT WAS TRAGICALLY ALTERED
729
00:36:27,386 --> 00:36:31,588
WHEN FOUR DRUGGED-OUT HIPPIES
BROKE INTO HIS HOME,
730
00:36:31,590 --> 00:36:35,859
MURDERED HIS WIFE,
HIS TWO LOVELY LITTLE GIRLS,
731
00:36:35,861 --> 00:36:39,196
AND LEFT HIM FOR DEAD.
732
00:36:39,198 --> 00:36:43,667
NOW, THE PROSECUTION CAN OFFER
NO MOTIVE FOR THESE MURDERS
733
00:36:43,669 --> 00:36:48,905
BECAUSE JEFFREY MacDONALD HAD NO
MOTIVE FOR KILLING HIS FAMILY.
734
00:36:52,060 --> 00:36:55,545
SERGEANT MICA, REMIND ME AGAIN
WHEN YOU WERE RELIEVED OF DUTY
735
00:36:55,547 --> 00:36:58,164
AND TURNED THE CRIME SCENE OVER.
736
00:36:58,166 --> 00:37:00,883
AT 0700 HOURS,
MY SUPERIOR OFFICER ARRIVED
737
00:37:00,885 --> 00:37:02,919
AT THE CRIME SCENE
AND TOOK OVER.
738
00:37:02,921 --> 00:37:04,087
TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE,
739
00:37:04,089 --> 00:37:06,006
DID YOU CARRY OUT
STANDARD PROTOCOL
740
00:37:06,008 --> 00:37:08,775
FOR PROCESSING A CRIME SCENE?
741
00:37:08,777 --> 00:37:12,662
TO THE BEST OF
MY KNOWLEDGE, SIR, YES.
742
00:37:12,664 --> 00:37:14,080
THANK YOU, SERGEANT.
743
00:37:14,082 --> 00:37:16,600
NO FURTHER QUESTIONS.
744
00:37:23,742 --> 00:37:28,578
SO, SERGEANT, YOU WERE IN CHARGE
OF THE INVESTIGATION THAT NIGHT,
745
00:37:28,580 --> 00:37:29,779
IS THAT CORRECT?
746
00:37:29,781 --> 00:37:32,549
YES, SIR.
747
00:37:32,551 --> 00:37:36,369
AND TELL ME, HOW MANY
CRIME SCENES
748
00:37:36,371 --> 00:37:41,324
OF THIS MAGNITUDE
HAVE YOU PROCESSED?
749
00:37:41,326 --> 00:37:43,627
OF THIS MAGNITUDE,
NONE, SIR.
750
00:37:46,365 --> 00:37:49,232
CAN YOU TELL ME, SERGEANT,
HOW MANY MILITARY POLICEMEN
751
00:37:49,234 --> 00:37:53,386
WERE IN THAT HOUSE
THE NIGHT YOU WERE THERE?
752
00:37:53,388 --> 00:37:57,324
MAYBE A DOZEN.
753
00:37:57,326 --> 00:38:02,862
AND DID YOU ATTEMPT TO COMPILE A
LIST OF NAMES OF WHO WAS THERE?
754
00:38:02,864 --> 00:38:05,181
NO, SIR.
755
00:38:05,183 --> 00:38:07,583
SO, YOU HAVE NO IDEA
WHO ACTUALLY CAME
756
00:38:07,585 --> 00:38:10,570
AND WENT THAT NIGHT.
757
00:38:10,572 --> 00:38:14,891
NOT EXACTLY.
758
00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:17,811
AND WHEN DID YOU DISCOVER THAT
ONE OF YOUR MEN HAD STOLEN
759
00:38:17,813 --> 00:38:21,431
DR. MacDONALD'S
WALLET FROM A DESK
760
00:38:21,433 --> 00:38:24,267
IN THE ACTIVE CRIME SCENE?
761
00:38:24,269 --> 00:38:26,670
THAT I LEARNED LATER.
762
00:38:26,672 --> 00:38:30,307
AND AFTER HEARING
DR. MacDONALD'S DESCRIPTION
763
00:38:30,309 --> 00:38:34,427
OF THE FOUR ASSAILANTS,
764
00:38:34,429 --> 00:38:39,666
DID YOU ORDER ROAD BLOCKS
AT THE EXITS OF THE POST?
765
00:38:39,668 --> 00:38:40,834
NO, SIR.
766
00:38:40,836 --> 00:38:43,119
EVEN AFTER ONE OF YOUR MEN
SAID HE SAW A WOMAN
767
00:38:43,121 --> 00:38:45,488
MATCHING THE DESCRIPTION
OF THE FEMALE SUSPECT,
768
00:38:45,490 --> 00:38:51,694
A WOMAN WITH LONG, BLONDE HAIR
AND A FLOPPY HAT IN THE AREA?
769
00:38:51,696 --> 00:38:52,695
NO.
770
00:38:52,697 --> 00:38:57,167
[ MURMURING ]
771
00:38:57,636 --> 00:38:59,069
[ GAVEL POUNDS ]
772
00:38:59,071 --> 00:39:01,638
Man: THE COURT IS RECESSED
UNTIL 9:00 A.M. TOMORROW.
773
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,741
dd
774
00:39:04,743 --> 00:39:06,893
WE HAD A GOOD DAY.
775
00:39:06,895 --> 00:39:08,495
YOU THINK THE JURY
WAS WITH ME?
776
00:39:08,497 --> 00:39:09,746
YEAH.
777
00:39:09,748 --> 00:39:11,047
YEAH, I DO.
778
00:39:11,049 --> 00:39:13,216
THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR, JOE,
BECAUSE I TRUST YOU.
779
00:39:13,218 --> 00:39:14,317
THANK YOU.
780
00:39:14,319 --> 00:39:15,251
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE
TO TELL THE STORY.
781
00:39:15,253 --> 00:39:17,804
OF COURSE.
I'M HERE FOR YOU.
782
00:39:17,806 --> 00:39:20,623
dd
783
00:39:20,625 --> 00:39:22,025
Judge:
GOOD MORNING, GENTLEMEN.
784
00:39:22,027 --> 00:39:24,861
I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW THE
PSYCHOLOGICAL EVALUATIONS IN.
785
00:39:24,863 --> 00:39:26,046
ANY OF THEM.
786
00:39:26,048 --> 00:39:27,630
BUT YOUR HONOR?
787
00:39:27,632 --> 00:39:29,649
THE EVALUATIONS
ARE CRITICAL TO OUR CASE.
788
00:39:29,651 --> 00:39:32,318
THEY SPEAK TO OUR
CLIENT'S STATE OF MIND.
789
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,539
THEY SHOW THAT JEFFREY MacDONALD
WAS NOT CAPABLE OF SUCH A CRIME.
790
00:39:36,541 --> 00:39:38,641
MR. SEGAL,
YOUR EVALUATION SAYS ONE THING,
791
00:39:38,643 --> 00:39:40,043
PROSECUTION SAYS ANOTHER.
792
00:39:40,045 --> 00:39:42,912
I'M NOT GOING ALLOW THIS TO TURN
INTO A SHRINK VERSUS SHRINK.
793
00:39:42,914 --> 00:39:45,749
THAT'S MY DECISION.
794
00:39:45,751 --> 00:39:48,718
NOW, IN REGARD TO
THE DEFENSE'S MOTION
795
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:51,888
TO ENTER WITNESS
AFFIDAVITS INTO EVIDENCE
796
00:39:51,890 --> 00:39:53,523
CONCERNING
THE CONFESSION STATEMENTS
797
00:39:53,525 --> 00:39:56,309
OF ONE HELENA STOECKLEY,
798
00:39:56,311 --> 00:40:00,246
I'M DENYING THAT MOTION ALSO
BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON HEARSAY.
799
00:40:00,248 --> 00:40:03,817
WITH RESPECT, YOUR HONOR,
WE HAVE SIX SEPARATE WITNESSES
800
00:40:03,819 --> 00:40:05,869
WHO CORROBORATE
THAT HELENA STOECKLEY
801
00:40:05,871 --> 00:40:07,504
CONFESSED TO BEING PRESENT
802
00:40:07,506 --> 00:40:10,907
AT THE MacDONALD HOME
DURING THE MURDERS.
803
00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:14,310
KEEPING THIS FROM THE JURY --
I MADE MY RULING.
804
00:40:14,312 --> 00:40:16,629
IF MS. STOECKLEY
HERSELF WISHES TO TESTIFY,
805
00:40:16,631 --> 00:40:19,282
THEN SHE IS FREE TO DO SO.
806
00:40:19,484 --> 00:40:21,818
[ GROANS QUIETLY ]
807
00:40:21,820 --> 00:40:28,041
dd
808
00:40:28,043 --> 00:40:29,759
Jeffery: I THINK THE JURY
WILL BE ON MY SIDE.
809
00:40:29,761 --> 00:40:31,294
WHAT DO YOU GIRLS THINK?
810
00:40:31,296 --> 00:40:32,429
YEAH?
811
00:40:32,431 --> 00:40:33,613
YOU SURE?
812
00:40:33,615 --> 00:40:36,566
YES, OF COURSE.
813
00:40:36,568 --> 00:40:38,902
I LIKE YOUR PAPER.
814
00:40:38,904 --> 00:40:41,421
[ LAUGHS ]
815
00:40:41,423 --> 00:40:43,389
ALL RIGHT.
816
00:40:43,391 --> 00:40:45,642
[ GIRLS GIGGLING ]
817
00:40:47,746 --> 00:40:49,662
ALL RIGHT.
818
00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:51,714
AND I AM THE DIRECTOR
OF THE POLICE SERVICE BUREAU,
819
00:40:51,716 --> 00:40:54,350
AND I RUN
THE CRIME LABORATORY THERE.
820
00:40:54,352 --> 00:40:57,320
PRIOR TO THIS,
I WAS A FIELD AGENT IN THE FBI,
821
00:40:57,322 --> 00:40:59,889
AND I WORKED IN
THE MICROSCOPIC ANALYSIS UNIT.
822
00:40:59,891 --> 00:41:01,290
Blackburn: THANK YOU.
823
00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:03,526
AND DID YOU HAVE OCCASION
TO STUDY THE BLOOD EVIDENCE
824
00:41:03,528 --> 00:41:05,895
COLLECTED FROM 544 CASTLE DRIVE?
825
00:41:05,897 --> 00:41:08,331
YES, SIR, I DID.
826
00:41:08,333 --> 00:41:11,768
TELL US WHAT YOU LEARNED ABOUT
THE BLOOD TYPES OF THE FAMILY?
827
00:41:11,770 --> 00:41:14,370
WELL, EACH MEMBER
OF THE MacDONALD FAMILY --
828
00:41:14,372 --> 00:41:16,573
DR. MacDONALD,
MRS. MacDONALD,
829
00:41:16,575 --> 00:41:18,241
KIMBERLY,
AND KRISTEN --
830
00:41:18,243 --> 00:41:19,876
ALL HAD DIFFERENT BLOOD TYPES.
831
00:41:19,878 --> 00:41:20,910
ONE MOMENT,
MR. STOMBAUGH.
832
00:41:20,912 --> 00:41:24,581
LET ME JUST CLARIFY
FOR THE JURY.
833
00:41:24,583 --> 00:41:27,016
ARE YOU SAYING THAT,
AGAINST ALL ODDS,
834
00:41:27,018 --> 00:41:30,036
IT TURNS OUT THAT THE FOUR
MEMBERS OF THE MacDONALD FAMILY
835
00:41:30,038 --> 00:41:32,856
EACH HAD A SEPARATE
AND IDENTIFIABLE BLOOD TYPE?
836
00:41:32,858 --> 00:41:33,690
THAT'S CORRECT.
837
00:41:33,692 --> 00:41:35,225
IT'S STATISTICALLY IMPROBABLE,
838
00:41:35,227 --> 00:41:37,894
BUT IT HAPPENS
TO BE THE CASE HERE.
839
00:41:37,896 --> 00:41:40,630
MR. STOMBAUGH.
840
00:41:40,632 --> 00:41:42,515
CAN YOU TELL ME
WHY THIS IS HELPFUL
841
00:41:42,517 --> 00:41:44,267
TO OUR UNDERSTANDING
OF THE EVENTS
842
00:41:44,269 --> 00:41:46,719
OF FEBRUARY 17, 1970?
843
00:41:46,721 --> 00:41:50,540
WELL, NOW WE CAN DETERMINE
TO A GOOD DEGREE OF CERTAINTY
844
00:41:50,542 --> 00:41:54,277
WHO BLED WHERE AND WHEN,
AND IN SOME CASES, FOR HOW LONG.
845
00:41:54,279 --> 00:41:56,813
YOU'VE READ
DR. MacDONALD'S STATEMENTS
846
00:41:56,815 --> 00:41:58,598
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT.
847
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,885
IN YOUR OPINION, DOES THE STORY
THE BLOOD TYPES TELL
848
00:42:01,887 --> 00:42:04,687
CORROBORATE
DR. MacDONALD'S VERSION?
849
00:42:04,689 --> 00:42:08,892
NO, IT DOES NOT.
850
00:42:08,894 --> 00:42:13,029
WHERE WAS THE PREPONDERANCE OF
COLETTE MacDONALD'S BLOOD FOUND?
851
00:42:13,031 --> 00:42:15,198
THERE IN
THE MASTER BEDROOM,
852
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,536
AND ALSO A VERY LARGE AMOUNT
IN KRISTEN'S ROOM ON THE BED.
853
00:42:19,538 --> 00:42:20,653
HERE AND HERE?
854
00:42:20,655 --> 00:42:22,171
YES.
855
00:42:22,173 --> 00:42:25,291
AND WHERE WAS THE BULK
OF KRISTEN'S BLOOD FOUND?
856
00:42:25,293 --> 00:42:27,010
IN HER ROOM THERE.
857
00:42:27,012 --> 00:42:28,011
AND KIMBERLY'S?
858
00:42:28,013 --> 00:42:30,880
ON HER BED, AND ALSO
A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
859
00:42:30,882 --> 00:42:32,098
IN THE HALLWAY
860
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,417
JUST OUTSIDE
THE MASTER BEDROOM.
861
00:42:34,419 --> 00:42:37,053
AND WHERE WAS DR. MacDONALD'S
BLOOD FOUND?
862
00:42:37,055 --> 00:42:40,123
THERE WERE TWO DROPS
IN THE BATHROOM SINK
863
00:42:40,125 --> 00:42:42,191
AND A FEW DROPS
ON THE KITCHEN FLOOR.
864
00:42:42,193 --> 00:42:45,228
AND HOW MUCH OF HIS BLOOD
WAS FOUND IN THE LIVING ROOM
865
00:42:45,230 --> 00:42:48,565
WHERE HE CLAIMS TO HAVE
FOUGHT OFF FOUR ASSAILANTS?
866
00:42:48,567 --> 00:42:51,000
NONE.
[ MURMURING ]
867
00:42:51,002 --> 00:42:53,336
MR. STOMBAUGH,
THE "ESQUIRE" MAGAZINE
868
00:42:53,338 --> 00:42:57,307
THAT WAS ENTERED INTO EVIDENCE,
WAS THERE ANY BLOOD ON IT?
869
00:42:57,309 --> 00:43:00,777
YES, THERE WAS,
TYPE AB AND A.
870
00:43:00,779 --> 00:43:03,396
THAT'S KIMBERLY'S
AND MRS. MacDONALD'S.
871
00:43:03,398 --> 00:43:07,250
IT WAS OVER THE "QU"
ON THE COVER.
872
00:43:07,252 --> 00:43:10,820
THIS MAGAZINE,
WHICH CONTAINED AN ARTICLE
873
00:43:10,822 --> 00:43:13,289
ABOUT THE THEN-RECENT
MANSON FAMILY MURDERS.
874
00:43:13,291 --> 00:43:15,191
OBJECTION!
SUSTAINED.
875
00:43:18,330 --> 00:43:20,680
JEFFREY MacDONALD'S STORY
IS THAT
876
00:43:20,682 --> 00:43:23,866
WHEN HE CAME UPON HIS WIFE
IN THE MASTER BEDROOM,
877
00:43:23,868 --> 00:43:27,136
THIS KNIFE WAS STICKING
OUT OF HER CHEST.
878
00:43:27,138 --> 00:43:30,239
HE SAYS HE REMOVED IT
BEFORE ADMINISTERING CPR.
879
00:43:30,241 --> 00:43:32,475
DOES THE BLOOD EVIDENCE
YOU FOUND SUPPORT THIS?
880
00:43:32,477 --> 00:43:34,360
Stombaugh: NO.
881
00:43:34,362 --> 00:43:35,645
WHY NOT?
882
00:43:35,647 --> 00:43:38,398
WELL, OF THE 37 WOUNDS
ON MRS. MacDONALD'S BODY,
883
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,949
THE EVIDENCE WOULD INDICATE
THAT NONE OF THEM
884
00:43:39,951 --> 00:43:41,167
WERE MADE BY THAT KNIFE.
885
00:43:41,169 --> 00:43:42,935
SO, MRS. MacDONALD
WAS NOT STABBED
886
00:43:42,937 --> 00:43:43,770
WITH THIS KNIFE?
887
00:43:43,772 --> 00:43:48,224
SHE WAS NOT.
888
00:43:48,226 --> 00:43:50,827
MR. STOMBAUGH,
889
00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:52,912
CAN YOU TELL ME
WHAT THIS IS HERE?
890
00:43:52,914 --> 00:43:54,430
ACCORDING TO PRIOR TESTIMONY,
891
00:43:54,432 --> 00:43:56,866
THAT IS DR. MacDONALD'S
FOOTPRINT.
892
00:43:56,868 --> 00:43:59,302
AND WHAT BLOOD TYPE
WAS THE FOOTPRINT MADE IN?
893
00:43:59,304 --> 00:44:02,055
TYPE A,
MRS. MacDONALD'S.
894
00:44:02,057 --> 00:44:04,173
LET ME REPEAT THAT.
895
00:44:04,175 --> 00:44:05,675
THIS IS JEFFREY
MacDONALD'S FOOTPRINT
896
00:44:05,677 --> 00:44:07,477
THAT WAS MADE
IN HIS WIFE'S BLOOD?
897
00:44:07,479 --> 00:44:08,744
YES.
898
00:44:08,746 --> 00:44:12,081
TELL US WHAT YOU CAN ALSO
CONCLUDE ABOUT THIS FOOTPRINT.
899
00:44:12,083 --> 00:44:14,300
THE IMPRESSION OF THE PRINT
ON THE FLOOR
900
00:44:14,302 --> 00:44:16,519
INDICATES THAT
WHEN HE MADE IT,
901
00:44:16,521 --> 00:44:17,987
DR. MacDONALD WAS CARRYING
SOMETHING HEAVY.
902
00:44:17,989 --> 00:44:21,357
SOMETHING HEAVY.
903
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:24,994
LIKE, SAY, HE WAS CARRYING
SOMETHING THAT WEIGHED,
904
00:44:24,996 --> 00:44:27,196
OH, OVER 100 POUNDS?
905
00:44:27,198 --> 00:44:28,614
WELL, POSSIBLY.
906
00:44:28,616 --> 00:44:31,100
IT'S HARD TO KNOW FOR SURE,
BUT THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT.
907
00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:33,169
MR. STOMBAUGH,
908
00:44:33,171 --> 00:44:34,404
DO YOU KNOW
APPROXIMATELY
909
00:44:34,406 --> 00:44:35,871
HOW MUCH COLETTE
MacDONALD WEIGHED?
910
00:44:35,873 --> 00:44:37,306
OBJECTION!
I DO NOT.
911
00:44:37,308 --> 00:44:38,708
SHE WEIGHED 135 POUNDS.
912
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:39,842
OBJECTION, YOUR HONOR!
913
00:44:39,844 --> 00:44:40,843
SUSTAINED.
914
00:44:40,845 --> 00:44:44,580
[ MURMURING ]
915
00:44:44,582 --> 00:44:54,357
dd
916
00:44:54,359 --> 00:45:01,264
dd
917
00:45:01,266 --> 00:45:04,500
[ BOTTLES CLACKING ]
918
00:45:04,502 --> 00:45:08,204
THAT WAS ROUGH TODAY.
919
00:45:13,111 --> 00:45:14,260
UMM, YEAH,
IT WAS A PRETTY
920
00:45:14,262 --> 00:45:17,180
BRUTAL REBUTTAL
OF YOUR WHOLE STORY.
921
00:45:17,182 --> 00:45:20,233
I DON'T HAVE A STORY.
IT'S WHAT HAPPENED.
922
00:45:20,235 --> 00:45:21,317
IT'S THE TRUTH.
923
00:45:21,319 --> 00:45:25,221
[ CRUNCHING ]
924
00:45:25,223 --> 00:45:26,255
LET ME ASK YOU.
925
00:45:26,257 --> 00:45:27,757
WHAT DID YOU THINK
OF STOMBAUGH?
926
00:45:27,759 --> 00:45:29,859
HOW DID HE
COME OFF TO YOU?
927
00:45:29,861 --> 00:45:35,732
[ NUTS CRACKING ]
928
00:45:35,734 --> 00:45:37,166
HE SEEMED SERIOUS.
929
00:45:37,168 --> 00:45:41,404
HE SEEMED LIKE HE KNEW
WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT.
930
00:45:44,359 --> 00:45:46,309
I THOUGHT SO, TOO.
931
00:45:46,311 --> 00:45:48,478
[ CRUNCHING ]
932
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,180
I WAS TALKING WITH BERNIE.
933
00:45:51,182 --> 00:45:56,369
THE CRIME SCENE EVIDENCE
IS SO COMPROMISED.
934
00:45:56,371 --> 00:45:57,987
HE WAS PROBABLY MAKING
AN HONEST EFFORT.
935
00:46:00,125 --> 00:46:02,725
YEAH, THAT'S A POINT
WORTH CONSIDERING.
936
00:46:02,727 --> 00:46:11,701
dd
937
00:46:11,703 --> 00:46:13,536
dd
938
00:46:13,538 --> 00:46:14,470
MOST IMPORTANT THING IS
THAT YOU'RE STILL WITH ME.
939
00:46:14,472 --> 00:46:17,256
THAT YOU'RE STILL
COMMITTED.
940
00:46:17,258 --> 00:46:23,496
dd
941
00:46:23,498 --> 00:46:25,698
I DIDN'T KILL COLETTE
AND THE GIRLS.
942
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:28,935
dd
943
00:46:28,937 --> 00:46:32,605
I COULDN'T HAVE DONE THAT.
944
00:46:32,607 --> 00:46:35,041
I LOVED THEM.
945
00:46:39,364 --> 00:46:40,863
YOU BELIEVE ME, RIGHT?
946
00:46:43,568 --> 00:46:46,018
I KNOW YOU LOVE THEM.
947
00:46:49,874 --> 00:46:53,276
I'M GLAD
YOU'RE HERE, JOE.
948
00:46:53,278 --> 00:46:55,111
IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET
THE TRUTH OUT THERE.
949
00:46:57,031 --> 00:46:58,614
MORE IMPORTANT NOW
THAN EVER.
950
00:47:06,724 --> 00:47:10,426
Segal: BUT HOW LONG DO YOU THINK
IT'S GONNA TAKE?
951
00:47:10,428 --> 00:47:12,528
COME ON, WE CAN
DO BETTER THAN THAT.
952
00:47:12,530 --> 00:47:15,198
YEAH, I'M SURE WE CAN.
953
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,333
HEY!
HOLD ON A MINUTE.
954
00:47:17,335 --> 00:47:18,467
WE GOT A PIECE OF GOOD NEWS.
955
00:47:18,469 --> 00:47:19,869
THEY FOUND HELENA STOECKLEY
HIDING OUT
956
00:47:19,871 --> 00:47:22,839
IN SOME TRAILER PARK
IN SOUTH CAROLINA.
957
00:47:22,841 --> 00:47:24,473
[ SNAPS FINGERS ]
958
00:47:24,475 --> 00:47:26,375
FEDERAL MARSHALS
ARE DRAGGING HER BACK HERE
959
00:47:26,377 --> 00:47:27,844
TO RALEIGH TO TESTIFY.
960
00:47:27,846 --> 00:47:30,313
WOW.
[ CHUCKLES ]
961
00:47:30,315 --> 00:47:32,181
WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU
GOT YOUR BOOK, WRITER.
962
00:47:32,183 --> 00:47:34,817
THAT'S REALLY GOOD.
963
00:47:34,819 --> 00:47:36,686
THAT'S GREAT.
THE SOONER, THE BETTER.
964
00:47:40,358 --> 00:47:50,633
dd
965
00:47:50,635 --> 00:48:00,376
dd
966
00:48:00,378 --> 00:48:02,144
dd
967
00:48:02,146 --> 00:48:04,397
[ GASPING ]
968
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:15,358
MS. STOECKLEY,
HOW ARE YOU?
969
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,425
FINE.
970
00:48:16,427 --> 00:48:20,196
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
971
00:48:20,198 --> 00:48:21,564
MS. STOECKLEY,
CAN YOU TELL US
972
00:48:21,566 --> 00:48:27,169
WHERE YOU WERE IN THE EARLY
MORNING OF FEBRUARY 17, 1970?
973
00:48:32,744 --> 00:48:34,710
NO.
974
00:48:34,712 --> 00:48:38,981
[ MURMURING ]
975
00:48:47,458 --> 00:48:51,661
HELENA, DO YOU
RECOGNIZE THIS HOUSE?
976
00:48:54,682 --> 00:48:55,798
NO.
977
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:56,916
LOOK CLOSELY.
978
00:49:00,972 --> 00:49:03,406
SORRY, NO.
979
00:49:07,045 --> 00:49:09,679
DOES THIS HELP?
980
00:49:09,681 --> 00:49:13,749
NOW DO YOU REMEMBER?
981
00:49:13,751 --> 00:49:15,601
I CAN'T HELP YOU.
982
00:49:17,956 --> 00:49:20,723
I UNDERSTAND ALL THIS
HAPPENED A LONG TIME AGO.
983
00:49:27,699 --> 00:49:31,233
SO I'M GOING TO ASK YOU
TO TAKE YOUR TIME.
984
00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:38,407
THE PHOTO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU
IS A LITTLE ROUGH,
985
00:49:38,409 --> 00:49:41,327
BUT I'M HOPING IT MIGHT JOLT
YOUR MEMORY BACK TO THAT NIGHT.
986
00:49:47,919 --> 00:49:50,920
THAT IS DR. MacDONALD'S FLESH
AND BLOOD, HELENA.
987
00:49:54,475 --> 00:49:59,595
WHAT KIND OF FATHER WOULD
DO THAT TO HIS OWN DAUGHTER?
988
00:49:59,597 --> 00:50:02,064
I DON'T KNOW.
989
00:50:06,871 --> 00:50:09,505
LOOK AT HIS WIFE, HELENA.
990
00:50:09,507 --> 00:50:12,441
LOOK AT THIS PICTURE.
991
00:50:12,443 --> 00:50:15,861
AT THIS POOR WOMAN.
992
00:50:15,863 --> 00:50:21,951
A WOMAN THAT MAN OVER THERE
FELL IN LOVE WITH
993
00:50:21,953 --> 00:50:25,254
IN THE EIGHTH GRADE.
994
00:50:25,256 --> 00:50:26,689
DR. MacDONALD
995
00:50:26,691 --> 00:50:29,959
IS A LOVING,
NORMAL PERSON.
996
00:50:32,547 --> 00:50:34,697
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN
INSIDE THIS HOUSE?
997
00:50:37,435 --> 00:50:38,901
NO.
998
00:50:38,903 --> 00:50:42,138
I WASN'T.
I'M SORRY.
999
00:50:42,140 --> 00:50:45,841
I'M NOT GONNA SIT HERE
AND SAY SOMETHING I DIDN'T DO.
1000
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:51,213
BESIDES, HOW DO YOU KNOW
HE'S NOT GUILTY?
1001
00:50:51,215 --> 00:50:59,688
[ MURMURING ]
1002
00:50:59,690 --> 00:51:02,525
[ CHAIR SCRAPES ]
1003
00:51:02,527 --> 00:51:04,643
LOOK, JEFF...
1004
00:51:04,645 --> 00:51:07,530
I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE
PAINFUL FOR YOU,
1005
00:51:07,532 --> 00:51:10,132
BUT TOMORROW, WHEN
YOU'RE ON THAT STAND,
1006
00:51:10,134 --> 00:51:13,636
I REALLY WANT THE JURY
TO MEET THE VICTIMS.
1007
00:51:13,638 --> 00:51:16,906
I WANT TO PUT THEIR PICTURES UP
SO THEY CAN SEE THEM...
1008
00:51:16,908 --> 00:51:19,592
AND FOR THE JURY
TO SEE YOU SEEING THEM.
1009
00:51:19,594 --> 00:51:22,278
WHAT GOOD IS THAT GONNA DO?
JEFF, LISTEN TO ME.
1010
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,647
I WANT THOSE JURORS
TO SEE PEOPLE,
1011
00:51:24,649 --> 00:51:28,751
NOT JUST A COLLECTION OF FIBERS
AND HAIRS AND BLOODSTAINS.
1012
00:51:28,753 --> 00:51:31,754
I WANT THEM TO SEE YOUR FAMILY,
THE MacDONALDs.
1013
00:51:31,756 --> 00:51:33,422
WELL, I DON'T THINK --
I SHOULDN'T EVEN BE HERE!
1014
00:51:33,424 --> 00:51:39,028
[ BREATHING HEAVILY ]
1015
00:51:39,030 --> 00:51:44,200
GET ALL THE ANXIETY AND STRESS
OUT OF YOUR SYSTEM TONIGHT.
1016
00:51:44,202 --> 00:51:48,971
JUST BE YOURSELF IN THAT
COURTROOM, AND YOU'LL BE FINE.
1017
00:51:48,973 --> 00:51:50,739
WHO ELSE AM I
SUPPOSED TO BE?
1018
00:51:53,678 --> 00:52:03,452
dd
1019
00:52:03,454 --> 00:52:11,994
dd
1020
00:52:11,996 --> 00:52:14,380
[ INSECTS CHIRPING ]
1021
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:23,455
[ FLOORBOARDS CREAKING ]
1022
00:52:23,457 --> 00:52:25,491
[ GASPS ]
1023
00:52:31,849 --> 00:52:34,216
JEFF, WHAT'S GOING ON?
1024
00:52:34,218 --> 00:52:38,020
TOMORROW, I'M GONNA GET UP
ON THAT STAND...
1025
00:52:38,022 --> 00:52:41,257
MM...
1026
00:52:41,259 --> 00:52:44,593
AND I HOPE TO GOD
THEY SEE WHO I AM.
1027
00:52:44,595 --> 00:52:46,295
ALL THOSE PEOPLE
LOOKIN' AT ME.
1028
00:52:50,001 --> 00:52:52,868
IN A LOT OF WAYS,
I'VE ALWAYS...
1029
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:55,437
BEEN A PERFORMER.
1030
00:52:58,075 --> 00:52:59,725
YOU CAN'T AFFORD
NOT TO BE...
1031
00:53:01,979 --> 00:53:05,447
WITH THE WHOLE WORLD
ALWAYS LOOKING AT YOU, YOU KNOW?
1032
00:53:05,449 --> 00:53:06,949
THEY'RE ALWAYS LOOKING.
1033
00:53:13,558 --> 00:53:15,257
ARE YOU GONNA TELL THE TRUTH?
1034
00:53:18,396 --> 00:53:20,863
I TOLD YOU I WOULD.
1035
00:53:24,502 --> 00:53:29,205
GOOD NIGHT, JOE McGINNISS.
[ BREATHES DEEPLY ]
1036
00:53:29,207 --> 00:53:34,310
dd
1037
00:53:41,002 --> 00:53:42,952
DR. MacDONALD,
1038
00:53:42,954 --> 00:53:45,888
CAN YOU TELL US
WHAT THIS PICTURE DEPICTS?
1039
00:53:47,892 --> 00:53:51,193
IT'S KRIS AND KIM,
MY LITTLE GIRLS.
1040
00:53:54,232 --> 00:53:59,568
CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE CLOTHING
THAT KRISTEN MacDONALD
1041
00:53:59,570 --> 00:54:03,289
IS WEARING?
1042
00:54:03,291 --> 00:54:05,608
PAJAMAS.
1043
00:54:05,610 --> 00:54:12,164
THE SAME PAJAMAS SHE WAS WEARING
THE NIGHT OF FEBRUARY 17, 1970?
1044
00:54:12,166 --> 00:54:13,616
[ Hushed ] YES.
1045
00:54:15,803 --> 00:54:18,354
CAN YOU TELL US WHAT IT READS
ACROSS THE TOP OF THE PAJAMAS,
1046
00:54:18,356 --> 00:54:19,588
PLEASE?
1047
00:54:25,046 --> 00:54:26,795
[ Shakily ]
"LITTLE ANGEL."
1048
00:54:26,797 --> 00:54:29,381
[ SNIFFS ]
1049
00:54:38,009 --> 00:54:40,276
DR. MacDONALD,
I WOULD LIKE YOU
1050
00:54:40,278 --> 00:54:45,331
TO SHARE A LETTER
DATED AUGUST 26, 1969.
1051
00:54:45,333 --> 00:54:48,050
FROM YOUR WIFE TO YOU.
1052
00:54:48,052 --> 00:54:49,568
SHE WAS IN PATCHOGUE,
LONG ISLAND,
1053
00:54:49,570 --> 00:54:53,489
WRITING TO YOU
AT COLUMBUS, GEORGIA,
1054
00:54:53,491 --> 00:54:55,824
WHEN YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE
OF PARATROOPER TRAINING.
1055
00:55:00,998 --> 00:55:02,131
[ SIGHS ]
1056
00:55:02,133 --> 00:55:05,434
[ Choked ]
"MY DARLING JEFF.
1057
00:55:10,474 --> 00:55:13,609
I WANTED TO THANK YOU.
1058
00:55:13,611 --> 00:55:17,713
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN
MAKE ME HAPPY AND FULL OF LOVE.
1059
00:55:17,715 --> 00:55:22,101
IN CASE YOU'RE GETTING READY
TO JUMP OUT OF AN AIRPLANE
1060
00:55:22,103 --> 00:55:23,452
AND NEED A LITTLE --"
[Voice breaks]
1061
00:55:23,454 --> 00:55:26,722
"AND NEED A LITTLE MATERIAL
FOR PLEASANT DAYDREAMS,
1062
00:55:26,724 --> 00:55:28,590
[Sobs] HERE ARE A FEW
OF MY FAVORITES.
1063
00:55:30,261 --> 00:55:31,794
[ SNIFFS ]
1064
00:55:31,796 --> 00:55:34,663
THE NIGHT WE CAME HOME
FROM PAUL AND CATHY'S
1065
00:55:34,665 --> 00:55:36,532
AND HAD SOMETHING
TO EAT IN THE CITY.
1066
00:55:38,436 --> 00:55:40,936
NEW YEAR'S EVE THIS YEAR.
1067
00:55:44,675 --> 00:55:49,578
AND THE FIRST TIME
YOU CAME TO SKIDMORE
1068
00:55:49,580 --> 00:55:52,014
AND OUR PICNIC
IN THE WOODS.
1069
00:55:54,518 --> 00:55:56,118
FOUR KISSES, COLETTE."
1070
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,187
[ SOBBING ]
1071
00:55:58,189 --> 00:55:59,355
FAKER.
1072
00:55:59,357 --> 00:56:02,107
[ MURMURING ]
QUIET IN THE COURT!
1073
00:56:02,109 --> 00:56:03,976
SILENCE!
[ BANGING GAVEL ]
1074
00:56:03,978 --> 00:56:06,495
SILENCE IN THE COURT!
1075
00:56:14,271 --> 00:56:17,306
IS THIS THE PAJAMA TOP
YOU WORE TO BED THAT NIGHT?
1076
00:56:17,308 --> 00:56:19,808
I GUESS.
IF YOU SAY SO.
1077
00:56:25,299 --> 00:56:29,385
HOW DID THESE HOLES
GET IN THIS PAJAMA TOP?
1078
00:56:31,889 --> 00:56:33,205
[ SIGHS ] I ASSUME WHEN I WAS
BEING ATTACKED
1079
00:56:33,207 --> 00:56:36,191
AND HELD IT UP
TO DEFEND MYSELF.
1080
00:56:36,193 --> 00:56:39,094
AND WHAT WOULD YOU SAY
IF THE JURY SHOULD FIND
1081
00:56:39,096 --> 00:56:41,680
THAT THERE WERE NO BLUE FIBERS
FROM THIS PAJAMA TOP
1082
00:56:41,682 --> 00:56:45,451
IN THE LIVING ROOM
WHERE YOU SAY YOU WERE ATTACKED?
1083
00:56:45,453 --> 00:56:47,536
I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT
TO SAY TO THAT.
1084
00:56:56,213 --> 00:57:00,582
SUPPOSE THE JURY SHOULD FIND
THE FIBERS FROM THAT TOP
1085
00:57:00,584 --> 00:57:02,851
WERE FOUND
IN KIMBERLY'S ROOM.
1086
00:57:02,853 --> 00:57:05,254
ALTHOUGH, ACCORDING
TO YOUR STORY,
1087
00:57:05,256 --> 00:57:06,421
YOU SAY YOU HAD REMOVED IT
1088
00:57:06,423 --> 00:57:07,306
BY THE TIME YOU WENT IN THERE.
1089
00:57:07,308 --> 00:57:11,026
ANY EXPLANATION FOR THAT?
NO.
1090
00:57:11,028 --> 00:57:14,530
AND FIBERS FROM THAT TOP
WERE FOUND NEXT
1091
00:57:14,532 --> 00:57:17,533
TO THE HEADBOARD OF YOUR BED
UNDER THE WORD "PIG."
1092
00:57:17,535 --> 00:57:19,401
WHY WOULD THAT BE?
I HAVE NO IDEA!
1093
00:57:19,403 --> 00:57:22,538
DR. MacDONALD,
SUPPOSE THE JURY
1094
00:57:22,540 --> 00:57:25,907
SHOULD FIND THE EVIDENCE
THAT COLETTE MacDONALD,
1095
00:57:25,909 --> 00:57:32,548
FOUR MONTHS PREGNANT,
WAS BEATEN, STABBED 37 TIMES.
1096
00:57:32,550 --> 00:57:35,818
THAT KIMBERLY WAS BEATEN,
STABBED NINE TIMES.
1097
00:57:35,820 --> 00:57:39,371
AND THAT 2-YEAR-OLD KRISTEN
WAS STABBED 32 TIMES.
1098
00:57:39,373 --> 00:57:41,857
AND SUPPOSE, SIR,
THE JURY FURTHER FINDS
1099
00:57:41,859 --> 00:57:44,493
THAT THE INJURIES
THAT YOU SUSTAINED
1100
00:57:44,495 --> 00:57:46,979
WERE NOT CONSISTENT
IN DEGREE OF SERIOUSNESS
1101
00:57:46,981 --> 00:57:49,731
AND THAT YOU ARE,
QUITE OBVIOUSLY, STILL ALIVE?
1102
00:57:49,733 --> 00:57:50,883
ANY EXPLANATION FOR THAT?
1103
00:57:50,885 --> 00:57:53,101
OBJECTION.
ARGUMENTATIVE.
1104
00:57:53,103 --> 00:57:55,504
SUSTAINED.
1105
00:57:57,708 --> 00:58:00,709
YOUR HONOR, THAT CONCLUDES
THE GOVERNMENT'S CROSS.
1106
00:58:07,501 --> 00:58:17,192
d OOH, OOH, OOH d
1107
00:58:20,464 --> 00:58:28,187
d OOH, OOH, OOH d
1108
00:58:32,776 --> 00:58:34,977
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
1109
00:58:34,979 --> 00:58:40,415
SUPPOSE THAT ONE NIGHT,
RAISE YOUR HAND IN ANGER,
1110
00:58:40,417 --> 00:58:42,784
AND BEFORE YOU CAN STOP IT,
1111
00:58:42,786 --> 00:58:45,087
YOU DO SOMETHING
THAT IS IRRETRIEVABLE.
1112
00:58:47,091 --> 00:58:53,729
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AUTOPSY
PHOTOS OF THOSE LITTLE CHILDREN
1113
00:58:53,731 --> 00:58:57,666
AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD
TAKE TO CAUSE SOMEONE
1114
00:58:57,668 --> 00:58:59,635
TO RAISE A KNIFE
1115
00:58:59,637 --> 00:59:05,207
AND DESTROY THEM,
IT CAN'T BE TRUE.
1116
00:59:05,209 --> 00:59:08,577
WE SUGGEST TO YOU THE FOLLOWING.
1117
00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:12,447
THAT AN ARGUMENT ABOUT
WHAT WE DO NOT KNOW
1118
00:59:12,449 --> 00:59:16,401
STARTED BETWEEN JEFF AND COLETTE
IN THE MASTER BEDROOM.
1119
00:59:16,403 --> 00:59:20,772
THE MacDONALDS WERE A YOUNG,
VIBRANT FAMILY
1120
00:59:20,774 --> 00:59:22,257
ABOUT TO HAVE ANOTHER CHILD.
1121
00:59:22,259 --> 00:59:24,743
WHY WOULD JEFFREY
THROW THAT ALL AWAY?
1122
00:59:24,745 --> 00:59:28,597
Blackburn:
THE EVIDENCE ALSO SHOWS
THAT KIMBERLY WAS STRUCK,
1123
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,116
PERHAPS BY ACCIDENT.
1124
00:59:31,118 --> 00:59:34,319
WE CONTEND THAT DR. MacDONALD
BLUDGEONED AND STABBED
1125
00:59:34,321 --> 00:59:37,489
COLETTE TO DEATH
IN KRISTEN'S ROOM
1126
00:59:37,491 --> 00:59:39,575
AND THEN ALSO KILLED KRISTEN.
1127
00:59:39,577 --> 00:59:44,045
IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE
BECAUSE THERE WAS NO MOTIVE.
1128
00:59:44,047 --> 00:59:45,681
Blackburn:
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,
WE CAN'T TELL YOU
1129
00:59:45,683 --> 00:59:49,384
WHY JEFFREY MacDONALD KILLED
HIS PREGNANT WIFE AND CHILDREN.
1130
00:59:49,386 --> 00:59:52,354
BUT WE HAVE PROVEN BEYOND
A REASONABLE DOUBT
1131
00:59:52,356 --> 00:59:55,207
THAT HE DID KILL THEM.
1132
00:59:55,209 --> 00:59:59,061
AND THAT IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT.
1133
00:59:59,063 --> 01:00:01,613
WHY?
1134
01:00:01,615 --> 01:00:03,732
IT MAY NEVER BE KNOWN.
1135
01:00:03,734 --> 01:00:08,720
JEFFREY MacDONALD NEEDS PEACE.
1136
01:00:08,722 --> 01:00:12,941
AND YOU, AS A JURY,
CAN GRANT HIM THAT PEACE.
1137
01:00:12,943 --> 01:00:17,679
[ CLOCK TICKING ]
1138
01:00:17,681 --> 01:00:20,482
[ SOMBER MUSIC PLAYS ]
1139
01:00:20,484 --> 01:00:30,442
dd
1140
01:00:30,444 --> 01:00:40,469
dd
1141
01:00:40,471 --> 01:00:41,937
dd
1142
01:00:41,939 --> 01:00:43,105
[ DOOR OPENS ]
THEY'RE BACK.
1143
01:00:43,107 --> 01:00:46,842
THEY'VE REACHED A VERDICT.
1144
01:00:46,844 --> 01:00:48,377
[ DOOR OPENS ]
1145
01:00:59,523 --> 01:01:04,526
[ DOOR SHUTS ]
1146
01:01:04,528 --> 01:01:08,480
MR. FOREMAN.
1147
01:01:08,482 --> 01:01:10,599
HAS THE JURY REACHED A VERDICT?
1148
01:01:10,601 --> 01:01:13,135
WE HAVE, YOUR HONOR.
1149
01:01:26,517 --> 01:01:28,333
WOULD THE DEFENDANT PLEASE RISE?
1150
01:01:34,708 --> 01:01:38,143
MR. FOREMAN, HOW DO YOU FIND?
1151
01:01:38,145 --> 01:01:40,245
WE, THE JURY,
FIND THE DEFENDANT,
1152
01:01:40,247 --> 01:01:43,732
DR. JEFFREY MacDONALD,
GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS.
1153
01:01:43,734 --> 01:01:49,588
[ BANGS TABLE ]
[ MURMURING ]
1154
01:01:49,590 --> 01:01:51,990
[ BANGS GAVEL ]
QUIET IN THE COURT.
1155
01:01:55,713 --> 01:01:58,363
DOES THE DEFENDANT WISH TO MAKE
A STATEMENT AT THIS TIME?
1156
01:02:01,719 --> 01:02:03,485
SIR, I AM NOT GUILTY.
1157
01:02:03,487 --> 01:02:06,388
I DON'T THINK THE COURT
HAS HEARD ALL THE EVIDENCE.
1158
01:02:18,202 --> 01:02:20,936
[ CUFFS CLINK ]
1159
01:02:26,860 --> 01:02:30,028
[ SOBS ]
1160
01:02:39,423 --> 01:02:41,957
[ DOOR OPENS, CLOSES ]
1161
01:02:41,959 --> 01:02:46,228
dd
1162
01:02:46,230 --> 01:02:49,247
[ BABY COOING ]
1163
01:02:49,249 --> 01:02:59,174
dd
1164
01:02:59,176 --> 01:03:06,114
dd
1165
01:03:06,116 --> 01:03:09,184
JOE.
1166
01:03:09,186 --> 01:03:10,952
[ Quietly ]
I LOVE YOU.
1167
01:03:23,534 --> 01:03:26,802
Blackburn: We have proven
beyond a reasonable doubt
1168
01:03:26,804 --> 01:03:27,936
that he did kill him.
1169
01:03:27,938 --> 01:03:29,838
[ SIGHS ]
1170
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,609
Why?
It may never be known.
1171
01:03:34,611 --> 01:03:40,582
dd
1172
01:03:40,584 --> 01:03:42,551
[ PAPER RUSTLES ]
1173
01:03:46,056 --> 01:03:49,257
[ PICKS UP RECEIVER,
DIALS ROTARY PHONE ]
1174
01:03:52,546 --> 01:03:53,745
THANK YOU.
1175
01:03:53,747 --> 01:03:57,482
IT'S INCREDIBLY GENEROUS
OF YOU GUYS TO HAVE ME.
1176
01:03:57,484 --> 01:03:59,184
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
1177
01:03:59,186 --> 01:04:01,252
IF YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE,
1178
01:04:01,254 --> 01:04:03,271
YOU NEED TO KNOW
WHAT REALLY HAPPENED.
1179
01:04:03,273 --> 01:04:06,825
NOT JUST WHAT JEFF
WANTS YOU TO THINK.
1180
01:04:06,827 --> 01:04:10,829
YOU KNOW, FROM THE SMALL AMOUNT
OF TIME THAT I SPENT WITH JEFF,
1181
01:04:10,831 --> 01:04:11,963
I FELT LIKE I KNEW HIM.
1182
01:04:11,965 --> 01:04:14,850
I THOUGHT I KNEW HIM
INSIDE OUT.
1183
01:04:14,852 --> 01:04:19,738
BUT I REALIZED ALMOST EVERYTHING
JEFFREY MacDONALD SAYS
1184
01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:21,540
OR DOES IS A LIE.
1185
01:04:23,410 --> 01:04:26,127
HERE.
1186
01:04:26,129 --> 01:04:28,046
THIS IS WHERE JEFF
SCREWED HIMSELF.
1187
01:04:28,048 --> 01:04:30,015
THE ARTICLE 32 HEARINGS.
1188
01:04:30,017 --> 01:04:32,050
IT WAS A CLOSED PROCEEDING.
1189
01:04:32,052 --> 01:04:35,320
I WASN'T ALLOWED TO STAY
AFTER I GAVE MY TESTIMONY.
1190
01:04:35,322 --> 01:04:37,922
BUT THEN I GOT A COPY
OF THE TRANSCRIPT,
1191
01:04:37,924 --> 01:04:40,208
AND I READ EVERY PAGE.
1192
01:04:40,210 --> 01:04:44,863
AND I FOUND ALMOST 100 THINGS
THAT JEFF STATED AS A FACT
1193
01:04:44,865 --> 01:04:49,551
THAT I PERSONALLY KNEW
NOT TO BE TRUE.
1194
01:04:49,553 --> 01:04:52,003
JEFF SAID THEY DIDN'T
OWN AN ICE PICK.
1195
01:04:52,005 --> 01:04:54,506
WELL, I KNOW FOR A FACT
THAT THEY DID.
1196
01:04:54,508 --> 01:04:56,474
I USED IT MYSELF.
1197
01:04:56,476 --> 01:04:59,945
HE SAID HE DIDN'T KNOW
THE NEIGHBORS TO GO TO FOR HELP.
1198
01:04:59,947 --> 01:05:02,314
WELL, COLETTE WAS GOING
TO INVITE THEM
1199
01:05:02,316 --> 01:05:04,115
FOR THANKSGIVING DINNER.
1200
01:05:04,117 --> 01:05:06,685
AFTER THE ARMY DROPPED
THE INVESTIGATION,
1201
01:05:06,687 --> 01:05:10,221
HE TALKED TO REPORTERS,
WENT ON "THE DICK CAVETT SHOW."
1202
01:05:10,223 --> 01:05:12,023
HE TOLD US HE WAS GOING ON IT
1203
01:05:12,025 --> 01:05:16,795
TO HELP GET THE WORD OUT
AND CATCH THE REAL KILLERS.
1204
01:05:16,797 --> 01:05:21,466
BUT THEN ON TV,
HE JUST LAUGHED AND SMILED.
1205
01:05:21,468 --> 01:05:23,234
HE LOVED THE ATTENTION.
1206
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:29,507
JEFF TOLD ME STORIES ABOUT
HOW COLETTE LOVED HIS SURPRISES,
1207
01:05:29,509 --> 01:05:31,626
LIKE HE BOUGHT HER
AN EXPENSIVE STEREO,
1208
01:05:31,628 --> 01:05:33,094
AND SHE WAS VERY
EXCITED ABOUT IT.
1209
01:05:33,096 --> 01:05:36,464
THAT STEREO CAUSED
A HUGE FIGHT.
1210
01:05:36,466 --> 01:05:38,049
JEFF WAS ALWAYS
SPENDING THEIR MONEY
1211
01:05:38,051 --> 01:05:40,352
ON EXPENSIVE
THINGS HE WANTED,
1212
01:05:40,354 --> 01:05:45,357
THEN GIVING THEM
TO COLETTE AS "GIFTS."
1213
01:05:45,359 --> 01:05:48,710
HE ALSO TOLD ME THAT COLETTE
WAS HAPPY FOR HIM,
1214
01:05:48,712 --> 01:05:51,229
THAT HE WAS GETTING TO TRAVEL
TO RUSSIA FOR A BOXING TRIP.
1215
01:05:51,231 --> 01:05:53,131
THERE WAS NO TRIP
TO RUSSIA.
1216
01:05:53,133 --> 01:05:55,567
HE JUST TOLD COLETTE THAT.
1217
01:05:55,569 --> 01:05:57,702
JEFF WAS PLANNING
TO GO TO NEW YORK
1218
01:05:57,704 --> 01:05:59,070
TO SEE AN EX-GIRLFRIEND.
1219
01:05:59,072 --> 01:06:01,873
HE WAS A PHILANDERER.
1220
01:06:01,875 --> 01:06:05,226
DURING THE INVESTIGATION,
THE ARMY'S CID AGENTS FOUND
1221
01:06:05,228 --> 01:06:07,612
THAT HE HAD HAD
SEXUAL RELATIONSHIPS
1222
01:06:07,614 --> 01:06:10,799
WITH MULTIPLE WOMEN.
1223
01:06:10,801 --> 01:06:12,684
DID SHE EVER TELL YOU GUYS
THAT SHE WANTED TO LEAVE HIM,
1224
01:06:12,686 --> 01:06:16,104
OR SHE WAS GOING
TO LEAVE HIM?
1225
01:06:16,106 --> 01:06:18,957
NO.
1226
01:06:18,959 --> 01:06:21,326
BUT SHE WAS BECOMING
MORE INDEPENDENT.
1227
01:06:21,328 --> 01:06:22,894
COLETTE WAS JUST
BEGINNING TO THINK ABOUT
1228
01:06:22,896 --> 01:06:25,530
HOW SHE MIGHT BE ABLE
TO HAVE A LIFE OUTSIDE OF JEFF.
1229
01:06:25,532 --> 01:06:27,649
JEFF HATED THAT.
1230
01:06:27,651 --> 01:06:28,667
RIGHT.
1231
01:06:28,669 --> 01:06:30,969
HE HATED LOOKING
AFTER THE GIRLS.
1232
01:06:30,971 --> 01:06:34,239
HE HATED THAT SHE WAS STARTING
TO HAVE OPINIONS OF HER OWN.
1233
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,814
[ DOG BARKING IN DISTANCE ]
1234
01:06:42,816 --> 01:06:48,787
DID JEFF REALLY SAVE COLETTE'S
LIFE AFTER KRISTEN WAS BORN?
1235
01:06:48,789 --> 01:06:52,590
[ SIGHS ] THAT'S A DRAMATIC
TURN OF PHRASE, BUT YES.
1236
01:06:52,592 --> 01:06:54,309
COLETTE HAD SEVERE
INTERNAL BLEEDING
1237
01:06:54,311 --> 01:06:58,396
WHICH HER DOCTORS MISSED
AND JEFF CAUGHT.
1238
01:06:58,398 --> 01:07:00,164
I'M NOT SAYING THAT
JEFF MacDONALD
1239
01:07:00,166 --> 01:07:03,802
ISN'T A COMPETENT PHYSICIAN.
1240
01:07:03,804 --> 01:07:07,355
I'M SAYING HE'S A LIAR
1241
01:07:07,357 --> 01:07:09,424
AND THAT HE MURDERED
MY DAUGHTER.
1242
01:07:13,013 --> 01:07:15,513
WHY'D HE DO IT?
1243
01:07:19,336 --> 01:07:22,854
I DON'T KNOW.
1244
01:07:22,856 --> 01:07:24,539
[ GATE CLANGS ]
1245
01:07:26,459 --> 01:07:29,961
[ KEYS JANGLING ]
1246
01:07:29,963 --> 01:07:39,687
[ DOOR SQUEAKS OPEN, SHUTS ]
1247
01:07:39,689 --> 01:07:40,822
HEY.
1248
01:07:40,824 --> 01:07:44,576
YOU LOOK OKAY.
1249
01:07:44,578 --> 01:07:47,796
YEAH, I'M OKAY.
1250
01:07:47,798 --> 01:07:49,781
IT'S UNTIL I START REMEMBERING
THAT I LOST MY FAMILY,
1251
01:07:49,783 --> 01:07:54,118
AND SOMEHOW
I ENDED UP IN HERE.
1252
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,370
THIS IS AN INSULT,
YOU KNOW.
1253
01:07:55,372 --> 01:07:59,257
IT'S AN INSULT TO THE MEMORY
OF MY TWO LITTLE GIRLS.
1254
01:07:59,259 --> 01:08:01,526
IT'S AN INSULT TO COLETTE.
1255
01:08:03,380 --> 01:08:07,565
WHICH IS WHY OUR BOOK
IS SO IMPORTANT NOW.
1256
01:08:07,567 --> 01:08:10,151
I NEED TO BE ABLE TO CHANGE
PEOPLE'S MINDS.
1257
01:08:13,139 --> 01:08:14,389
LISTEN.
1258
01:08:14,391 --> 01:08:16,407
I HAVE AN IDEA.
1259
01:08:16,409 --> 01:08:18,910
I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME
CASSETTE TAPES AND RECORDER.
1260
01:08:18,912 --> 01:08:20,278
I WANT TO SEND YOU
SOME QUESTIONS,
1261
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:22,046
AND YOU RECORD YOUR ANSWERS,
AND YOU MAIL 'EM BACK.
1262
01:08:22,048 --> 01:08:24,349
THAT WAY, YOU CAN TALK
ALL YOU WANT.
1263
01:08:24,351 --> 01:08:26,367
THAT'S FANTASTIC, YES,
AND I'VE BEEN THINKING.
1264
01:08:26,369 --> 01:08:28,686
EVERYTHING IN COURT WAS SO --
IT WAS SO ONE-SIDED,
1265
01:08:28,688 --> 01:08:30,955
AND I HAD ALL THESE RECORDS,
THESE PERSONAL DOCUMENTS
1266
01:08:30,957 --> 01:08:33,792
THAT IF YOU TAKE A LOOK
AT EVERYTHING, READ EVERYTHING,
1267
01:08:33,794 --> 01:08:37,078
IT'LL PROVE THAT WHAT
I'VE BEEN SAYING IS THE TRUTH.
1268
01:08:37,080 --> 01:08:38,179
ALL THAT STUFF'S
AT MY CONDO.
1269
01:08:38,181 --> 01:08:39,380
I CAN GET BERNIE
TO GIVE YOU THE KEYS.
1270
01:08:39,382 --> 01:08:41,466
THAT'S PERFECT.
1271
01:08:41,468 --> 01:08:43,284
I WANT TO SEE
EVERYTHING YOU GOT.
1272
01:08:43,286 --> 01:08:47,672
[ DOOR OPENS, SHUTS ]
1273
01:08:47,674 --> 01:08:48,973
[ LIGHT CLICKS ]
1274
01:08:48,975 --> 01:08:50,909
[ SUSPENSEFUL MUSIC PLAYS ]
1275
01:08:50,911 --> 01:09:00,635
dd
1276
01:09:00,637 --> 01:09:10,795
dd
1277
01:09:10,797 --> 01:09:20,905
dd
1278
01:09:20,907 --> 01:09:23,107
DR. SADOFF,
THIS IS JOE McGINNISS.
1279
01:09:23,109 --> 01:09:25,543
I'M CALLING REGARDING
YOUR SESSIONS
1280
01:09:25,545 --> 01:09:27,512
WITH DR. JEFFREY MacDONALD.
1281
01:09:27,514 --> 01:09:29,447
Dr. Sadoff:
Yeah, Jeff through his lawyers
said he would like it
1282
01:09:29,449 --> 01:09:30,915
if I spoke with you.
1283
01:09:30,917 --> 01:09:32,517
But I won't be able
to say anything
1284
01:09:32,519 --> 01:09:35,687
That breaches doctor/patient
confidentiality, unfortunately.
1285
01:09:35,689 --> 01:09:39,591
You're can only get specifics
about our sessions from Jeff.
1286
01:09:39,593 --> 01:09:40,975
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
1287
01:09:40,977 --> 01:09:43,795
I WAS HOPING THAT I COULD ASK
YOU A FEW OTHER QUESTIONS.
1288
01:09:43,797 --> 01:09:45,363
Let me stop you there.
1289
01:09:45,365 --> 01:09:47,131
What I would like
to say to you is that
1290
01:09:47,133 --> 01:09:48,650
if you want
a better understanding
1291
01:09:48,652 --> 01:09:50,068
of Jeffrey MacDonald,
1292
01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:52,837
there's a book that I
strongly recommend you read.
1293
01:09:52,839 --> 01:09:55,173
It's by
the last name Cleckley.
1294
01:09:55,175 --> 01:09:59,077
The name is
"The Mask of Sanity."
1295
01:09:59,079 --> 01:10:02,547
I think you'll find that very,
very informative.
1296
01:10:06,469 --> 01:10:09,554
THIS SAYS THAT SOMEONE WITH
A PSYCHOPATHIC PERSONALITY
1297
01:10:09,556 --> 01:10:10,955
FIRST SEEMS TOTALLY NORMAL,
1298
01:10:10,957 --> 01:10:14,092
BUT THE MORE TIME YOU SPEND WITH
THEM, THERE'S NOTHING IN THERE.
1299
01:10:14,094 --> 01:10:17,128
IT'S LIKE LEARNED RESPONSES.
1300
01:10:17,130 --> 01:10:19,864
THERE'S NOT A REAL
HUMAN BEING INSIDE.
1301
01:10:19,866 --> 01:10:24,652
DOES THAT DESCRIBE
JEFFREY MacDONALD?
1302
01:10:24,654 --> 01:10:25,753
[ SIGHS ]
1303
01:10:37,517 --> 01:10:45,489
dd
1304
01:10:45,491 --> 01:10:48,159
[ PAPERS RUSTLING ]
1305
01:10:48,161 --> 01:10:57,502
dd
1306
01:10:57,504 --> 01:11:07,312
dd
1307
01:11:07,314 --> 01:11:11,049
dd
1308
01:11:11,051 --> 01:11:13,534
ESKATROL.
1309
01:11:16,690 --> 01:11:19,090
AN AMPHETAMINE.
1310
01:11:19,092 --> 01:11:22,977
[ PHONES RINGING ]
[ TYPEWRITERS CLACKING ]
1311
01:11:22,979 --> 01:11:25,396
[ KNOCKING ]
1312
01:11:25,398 --> 01:11:30,335
I HAVE TO
CALL YOU RIGHT BACK.
1313
01:11:30,337 --> 01:11:31,836
ALL RIGHT, WE WILL, THANKS.
1314
01:11:31,838 --> 01:11:33,171
WHAT IS THIS?
1315
01:11:33,173 --> 01:11:35,006
THAT IS THE WHY.
1316
01:11:35,008 --> 01:11:36,874
THAT IS MY ANGLE.
1317
01:11:36,876 --> 01:11:39,210
THAT IS MY BESTSELLER.
1318
01:11:39,212 --> 01:11:40,578
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
1319
01:11:40,580 --> 01:11:41,746
WHAT AM I TALKING ABOUT?
1320
01:11:41,748 --> 01:11:43,614
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE
PROSECUTION FOUND HIM GUILTY
1321
01:11:43,616 --> 01:11:46,334
BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE
TO PROVE HOW HE DID IT.
1322
01:11:46,336 --> 01:11:47,885
RIGHT?
NOT WHY.
1323
01:11:47,887 --> 01:11:49,687
THEY'VE BEEN TRYING
TO FIGURE OUT THE WHY.
1324
01:11:49,689 --> 01:11:52,540
AND THIS, I BELIEVE,
IS THE WHY.
1325
01:11:52,542 --> 01:11:53,841
AND YOU FIGURED OUT
THE WHY.
1326
01:11:53,843 --> 01:11:54,976
MM-HMM.
1327
01:11:54,978 --> 01:11:56,978
EVEN THOUGH AN ENTIRE TEAM
OF PROSECUTORS
1328
01:11:56,980 --> 01:11:59,197
WASN'T ABLE TO DO THAT.
1329
01:11:59,199 --> 01:12:00,498
HOW?
1330
01:12:00,500 --> 01:12:02,333
BECAUSE JEFFREY MacDONALD
GRANTED ME ACCESS TO HIS CONDO,
1331
01:12:02,335 --> 01:12:04,068
AND I READ EVERY
SINGLE DOCUMENT HE HAD,
1332
01:12:04,070 --> 01:12:06,421
AND THERE WAS A TON
OF INFORMATION IN THERE
1333
01:12:06,423 --> 01:12:08,106
THAT NEVER MADE IT TO TRIAL.
1334
01:12:08,108 --> 01:12:09,991
LIKE WHAT?
LIKE WHAT?
1335
01:12:09,993 --> 01:12:11,075
SOME OF MY FAVORITES.
1336
01:12:11,077 --> 01:12:12,810
I READ ALL THE PSYCH
EVALUATIONS.
1337
01:12:12,812 --> 01:12:14,412
OKAY?
HERE'S SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
1338
01:12:14,414 --> 01:12:15,947
HE HAD A LACK OF CONSCIENCE.
1339
01:12:15,949 --> 01:12:17,598
HE HAD NO SENSE OF GUILT.
1340
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,617
HE WAS SUSCEPTIBLE
TO VIOLENT OUTBURSTS
1341
01:12:19,619 --> 01:12:21,936
WHEN HE THOUGHT
HIS AUTHORITY WAS CHALLENGED,
1342
01:12:21,938 --> 01:12:26,057
PARTICULARLY BY SOMEONE WHO IS
NOT HIS SUPERIOR, LIKE COLETTE.
1343
01:12:26,059 --> 01:12:29,227
ONE SHRINK EVEN CALLED HIM
A PSYCHOPATH IN HIS EVALUATION.
1344
01:12:29,229 --> 01:12:31,295
AND SO WHY WERE
THESE EVALUATIONS
1345
01:12:31,297 --> 01:12:32,830
NOT INTRODUCED AT HIS TRIAL?
1346
01:12:32,832 --> 01:12:34,732
BECAUSE JUDGE DUPREE
WOULDN'T ALLOW ANY OF IT IN.
1347
01:12:34,734 --> 01:12:36,601
HE DIDN'T WANT
A WAR OF SHRINKS.
1348
01:12:36,603 --> 01:12:38,653
AND I THINK OUR GOOD DOCTOR
1349
01:12:38,655 --> 01:12:42,006
WAS TAKING A MASSIVE
AMOUNT OF SPEED.
1350
01:12:42,008 --> 01:12:44,409
WHEN JEFF MacDONALD FINDS OUT
THAT HE IS THE CHIEF SUSPECT,
1351
01:12:44,411 --> 01:12:46,728
HE IS ADVISED TO WRITE
A DETAILED ACCOUNT
1352
01:12:46,730 --> 01:12:48,546
OF THE EVENTS
OF THE NIGHT OF THE MURDER.
1353
01:12:48,548 --> 01:12:52,817
AND THE FIRST THING HE MENTIONS
IS A DRUG CALLED ESKATROL.
1354
01:12:52,819 --> 01:12:54,085
THE DIET PILL.
YEP, SPEED.
1355
01:12:54,087 --> 01:12:56,954
HE SAID HE WAS TAKING THREE
TO FIVE PILLS TO CUT WEIGHT
1356
01:12:56,956 --> 01:12:58,740
FOR SOME BOXING MATCH
IN RUSSIA
1357
01:12:58,742 --> 01:13:01,659
WHICH, BY THE WAY,
WAS A COMPLETE LIE.
1358
01:13:01,661 --> 01:13:02,960
NOW, LET ME ASK YOU
A QUESTION.
1359
01:13:02,962 --> 01:13:07,548
WHY DO YOU THINK HE WROTE
"ESKATROL" ON HIS FIRST ACCOUNT?
1360
01:13:07,550 --> 01:13:12,019
HE IS A DOCTOR, AND HE KNEW
THEY'D DO A TOX SCREEN ON HIM
1361
01:13:12,021 --> 01:13:13,121
WHEN HE WAS
IN THE HOSPITAL.
1362
01:13:13,123 --> 01:13:14,538
AND THEY DID.
AND GUESS WHAT?
1363
01:13:14,540 --> 01:13:16,758
NOTHING SHOWED UP
BECAUSE IN 1970,
1364
01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:18,743
IT WASN'T CONSIDERED
A DANGEROUS DRUG.
1365
01:13:18,745 --> 01:13:20,461
BUT ESKATROL'S
ESPECIALLY BAD.
1366
01:13:20,463 --> 01:13:23,965
IN LARGE DOSES,
CARRIES SIDE EFFECTS KNOWN AS
1367
01:13:23,967 --> 01:13:25,382
MARKED INSOMNIA,
1368
01:13:25,384 --> 01:13:29,070
TENSENESS, IRRITABILITY,
HYPERACTIVITY, PANIC STATES,
1369
01:13:29,072 --> 01:13:33,808
AND THE MOST SEVERE --
PSYCHOSIS.
1370
01:13:33,810 --> 01:13:36,611
DR. JEFFREY MacDONALD,
GREEN BERET,
1371
01:13:36,613 --> 01:13:40,581
IVY LEAGUE, FAMILY MAN,
PILLAR OF HIS COMMUNITY,
1372
01:13:40,583 --> 01:13:44,836
AND POTENTIAL PSYCHOPATH
I THINK HAD A PSYCHOTIC BREAK.
1373
01:13:44,838 --> 01:13:47,688
YOU GOTTA BACK UP A LITTLE BIT
AND TAKE ME STEP BY STEP.
1374
01:13:47,690 --> 01:13:49,440
JUST START AT THE BEGINNING.
1375
01:13:49,442 --> 01:13:51,426
[ SIGHS ]
1376
01:13:51,428 --> 01:13:54,962
OKAY.
1377
01:13:54,964 --> 01:13:56,831
ON THE NIGHT OF THE MURDERS,
JEFFREY MacDONALD
1378
01:13:56,833 --> 01:13:59,333
HAD JUST WORKED A 24-HOUR SHIFT
AT THE E.R.
1379
01:13:59,335 --> 01:14:01,385
HOPPED UP ON AMPHETAMINES.
1380
01:14:01,387 --> 01:14:04,755
COLETTE WAS AWAY AT NIGHT CLASS,
AND HE WAS LEFT WITH THE GIRLS.
1381
01:14:04,757 --> 01:14:06,791
WHEN SHE GOT HOME,
THEY GOT INTO A FIGHT
1382
01:14:06,793 --> 01:14:08,693
FOR REASONS WE DON'T KNOW.
1383
01:14:08,695 --> 01:14:11,746
MAYBE IT'S BECAUSE
KIMBERLY WET TO BED.
1384
01:14:11,748 --> 01:14:13,331
SHE'S FIVE.
THAT'S PERFECTLY NORMAL!
1385
01:14:13,333 --> 01:14:16,801
DON'T EVER TELL ME WHAT'S NORMAL
AND WHAT'S NOT NORMAL.
1386
01:14:16,803 --> 01:14:17,969
I'M A DOCTOR.
1387
01:14:17,971 --> 01:14:19,170
COLETTE, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
1388
01:14:19,172 --> 01:14:20,371
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
1389
01:14:20,373 --> 01:14:21,405
DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
1390
01:14:21,407 --> 01:14:22,507
I AM IN CHARGE!
1391
01:14:22,509 --> 01:14:24,275
YOU DON'T TELL ME ANYTHING!
1392
01:14:24,277 --> 01:14:26,444
PLEASE, JEFFREY!
1393
01:14:26,446 --> 01:14:28,012
YOU'RE PATHETIC!
1394
01:14:28,014 --> 01:14:29,447
[ GRUNTS ]
1395
01:14:29,449 --> 01:14:31,315
[ COUGHS, GASPS ]
1396
01:14:31,317 --> 01:14:34,068
Girl: DADDY!
DADDY!
1397
01:14:38,758 --> 01:14:40,758
GET OUT OF THIS HOUSE, JEFFREY!
1398
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,927
[ GRUNTS ]
1399
01:14:42,929 --> 01:14:44,195
[ SCREAMS ]
1400
01:14:44,197 --> 01:14:46,164
DADDY, DADDY!
DADDY, STOP IT!
1401
01:14:46,166 --> 01:14:51,169
[ GRUNTS ]
[ SCREECHES ] NO!
1402
01:14:51,171 --> 01:14:55,506
[ PANTING ]
1403
01:14:55,508 --> 01:14:57,909
[ SCREAMS ]
[ GRUNTING ] AHH!
1404
01:14:57,911 --> 01:14:59,010
[ GRUNTING ]
1405
01:14:59,012 --> 01:15:02,046
[ PANTING ]
1406
01:15:02,048 --> 01:15:04,248
[ GRUNTING ]
[ BLOWS LANDING ]
1407
01:15:08,955 --> 01:15:13,858
[ PANTING ]
1408
01:15:15,578 --> 01:15:24,502
dd
1409
01:15:24,504 --> 01:15:33,411
dd
1410
01:15:33,413 --> 01:15:37,348
Joe: JEFF HAD LOST CONTROL,
AND NOW HE HAD TO REGAIN IT.
1411
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:47,341
dd
1412
01:15:47,343 --> 01:15:56,033
dd
1413
01:15:56,035 --> 01:16:05,993
dd
1414
01:16:05,995 --> 01:16:07,662
dd
1415
01:16:07,664 --> 01:16:10,114
Girl: MAMA?
1416
01:16:19,058 --> 01:16:21,058
DADA?
1417
01:16:21,060 --> 01:16:23,744
[ PANTING ]
1418
01:16:23,746 --> 01:16:33,771
dd
1419
01:16:33,773 --> 01:16:43,748
dd
1420
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:49,570
dd
1421
01:16:49,572 --> 01:16:54,158
[ GASPING ]
1422
01:16:54,160 --> 01:16:56,294
[ HEAD THUDS ]
1423
01:16:56,296 --> 01:16:59,096
[ PANTING ]
1424
01:16:59,098 --> 01:17:02,500
MAYBE COLETTE TRIED
TO SAVE HER YOUNGEST CHILD.
1425
01:17:02,502 --> 01:17:04,135
[ SOBS ]
1426
01:17:04,137 --> 01:17:07,038
BUT ALL OF THEM MET
WITH THE SAME FATE.
1427
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,075
[ BLOWS LANDING ]
[ GRUNTING ]
1428
01:17:11,077 --> 01:17:15,179
[ Screaming ] JEFF, DON'T!
1429
01:17:15,181 --> 01:17:21,702
[ WOOD CLATTERS ]
1430
01:17:21,704 --> 01:17:24,805
JEFF HAD TO COME UP WITH A STORY
FOR WHAT HAD HAPPENED.
1431
01:17:28,695 --> 01:17:30,194
HE HAD READ IN
THE "ESQUIRE" MAGAZINE
1432
01:17:30,196 --> 01:17:32,096
ABOUT THE MANSON MURDERS.
1433
01:17:32,098 --> 01:17:35,666
THAT WOULD BE HIS STORY.
1434
01:17:35,668 --> 01:17:37,802
THAT WOULD EXPLAIN
WHAT HAPPENED.
1435
01:17:37,804 --> 01:17:41,505
dd
1436
01:17:41,507 --> 01:17:43,374
TO COVER UP
WHAT HE HAD DONE.
1437
01:17:43,376 --> 01:17:52,616
dd
1438
01:17:52,618 --> 01:18:01,809
dd
1439
01:18:01,811 --> 01:18:04,528
BUT THERE HAD TO BE
SOMETHING ELSE.
1440
01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:08,532
TO SELL HIS STORY, THE MURDERS
HAD TO BE BARBARIC.
1441
01:18:08,534 --> 01:18:10,718
BEYOND ANYTHING IMAGINABLE.
1442
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,636
[ KNIVES CLATTER ]
1443
01:18:12,638 --> 01:18:22,596
dd
1444
01:18:22,598 --> 01:18:32,573
dd
1445
01:18:32,575 --> 01:18:35,859
dd
1446
01:18:35,861 --> 01:18:38,696
[ STABBING SOUNDS ]
1447
01:18:44,604 --> 01:18:47,838
[ STABBING SOUNDS ]
1448
01:18:54,947 --> 01:18:57,998
[ SQUEAKING ]
1449
01:18:59,285 --> 01:19:05,923
dd
1450
01:19:05,925 --> 01:19:08,175
[ EXHALES DEEPLY ]
1451
01:19:08,177 --> 01:19:15,299
dd
1452
01:19:15,301 --> 01:19:23,307
dd
1453
01:19:23,309 --> 01:19:28,729
[ STABBING SOUNDS ]
1454
01:19:28,731 --> 01:19:30,614
[ PANTING ]
1455
01:19:30,616 --> 01:19:34,952
dd
1456
01:19:34,954 --> 01:19:37,621
THE ONE FINAL PIECE
IN THE PUZZLE
1457
01:19:37,623 --> 01:19:41,559
WAS THAT HE HAD TO LOOK
LIKE A VICTIM, TOO.
1458
01:19:41,561 --> 01:19:47,331
[ BREATHING HEAVILY ]
1459
01:19:47,333 --> 01:19:53,637
dd
1460
01:19:53,639 --> 01:20:00,110
dd
1461
01:20:00,112 --> 01:20:05,749
[ GRUNTS ]
AAH!
1462
01:20:05,751 --> 01:20:08,552
[ PANTING ]
1463
01:20:08,554 --> 01:20:12,189
[ Ragged ] I NEED AN AMBULANCE
TO 544 CASTLE DRIVE.
1464
01:20:12,191 --> 01:20:13,941
Woman;
is that on or off Coast?
1465
01:20:13,943 --> 01:20:17,161
[ PHONE CLATTERS ]
1466
01:20:19,115 --> 01:20:23,918
dd
1467
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,787
[ LIGHT SWITCH CLICKS ]
1468
01:20:26,789 --> 01:20:36,797
dd
1469
01:20:36,799 --> 01:20:46,123
dd
1470
01:20:46,125 --> 01:20:55,866
dd
1471
01:20:55,868 --> 01:21:00,871
IF KRISTEN WAS ASLEEP
AND HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING,
1472
01:21:00,873 --> 01:21:02,673
WHY DID HE KILL HER, TOO?
1473
01:21:05,344 --> 01:21:06,777
[ SIGHS ]
1474
01:21:06,779 --> 01:21:10,214
MURTAGH HAD
A THEORY ABOUT THAT.
1475
01:21:10,216 --> 01:21:12,783
HE THOUGHT THAT JEFF MacDONALD
DECIDED TO KILL KRISTEN
1476
01:21:12,785 --> 01:21:15,669
BECAUSE HE HAD NO REASON TO.
1477
01:21:15,671 --> 01:21:19,139
SHE HADN'T SEEN ANYTHING,
SO HE WENT ALL-IN.
1478
01:21:19,141 --> 01:21:23,928
IT WAS THE ONE THING NO JURY
WOULD BELIEVE A FATHER COULD DO.
1479
01:21:31,737 --> 01:21:34,154
DOES MacDONALD KNOW
YOU'RE GOING TO WRITE THAT?
1480
01:21:37,076 --> 01:21:39,610
HE DOESN'T NEED TO.
1481
01:21:39,612 --> 01:21:43,614
[ TYPEWRITER KEYS CLACKING ]
1482
01:21:51,374 --> 01:21:53,490
[ BELL DINGS ]
1483
01:21:53,492 --> 01:21:54,825
[ RETURN SLIDES ]
1484
01:21:54,827 --> 01:21:56,010
[ TYPING CONTINUES ]
1485
01:21:56,012 --> 01:22:02,182
dd
1486
01:22:02,184 --> 01:22:08,889
[ CLOCK TICKING ]
1487
01:22:08,891 --> 01:22:10,774
Reporter:
REPORTER JOE McGINNISS
SPENT THREE YEARS
1488
01:22:10,776 --> 01:22:12,610
INVESTIGATING JEFFREY MacDONALD,
1489
01:22:12,612 --> 01:22:14,812
WHO GRANTED HIM TOTAL
ACCESS TO HIS FAMILY,
1490
01:22:14,814 --> 01:22:17,481
HIS FRIENDS,
ALL HIS RECORDS,
1491
01:22:17,483 --> 01:22:20,284
SO THAT McGINNISS MIGHT WRITE
THE DEFINITIVE BOOK ABOUT HIM.
1492
01:22:20,286 --> 01:22:22,086
IT IS CALLED "FATAL VISION."
1493
01:22:24,991 --> 01:22:29,410
ALL I'M SAYING THAT ON THE BASIS
OF ATTENDING THE TRIAL EVERY DAY
1494
01:22:29,412 --> 01:22:33,047
AND SPENDING THREE YEARS OF
FULL-TIME RESEARCH AFTERWARDS,
1495
01:22:33,049 --> 01:22:35,299
THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION
THAT THIS GENTLE, CARING,
1496
01:22:35,301 --> 01:22:38,969
GIVING MAN ALSO BEAT AND STABBED
1497
01:22:38,971 --> 01:22:40,871
TO DEATH HIS PREGNANT WIFE
1498
01:22:40,873 --> 01:22:43,140
AND HIS TWO YOUNG DAUGHTERS.
1499
01:22:43,142 --> 01:22:46,010
I LOVE MY WIFE
AND MY CHILDREN VERY MUCH.
1500
01:22:46,012 --> 01:22:48,812
I NEVER PHYSICALLY ASSAULTED
ANYONE IN MY LIFE,
1501
01:22:48,814 --> 01:22:52,683
AND CERTAINLY NOT MY WIFE
AND MY TWO CHILDREN.
1502
01:22:55,683 --> 01:22:59,683
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