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It's over.
Olivia and I are engaged.
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- Is this real?
- It is.
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'Till she finds out the truth.
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'Bout how it all started.
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We should just
square up the rent
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and move forward.
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It's not really gonna happen
for you, Joey...
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Ah, now you want me to give up, too, just
so you can feel better about yourself?
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Are you available
to, uh, talk?
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Who sent you here?
How did you get here?
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Okay. Everything that we have
right now is real.
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Is it real?
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It was you, wasn't it?
You are not coming back here.
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Joe, you're kind of scaring me.
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What did Eric do this time?
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You don't understand,
you're not alone in this.
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I don't even know
who you are!
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What I don't understand
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is why you changed
your story... twice.
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No, I don't want you
to talk this time.
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First, I just want
you to listen.
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- Why don't you...
- Because I don't want you
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to tell me
something, again,
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that closes off another avenue
of defense for you, all right?
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I know your side,
you hear mine.
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Okay, I couldn't find
Cliff Jones.
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I know, I know.
I know.
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You sat with him
face-to-face.
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But the fact that I
couldn't locate him anywhere
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means probably Dick
Andreesen couldn't either.
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And we're already
dealing with priors...
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the Toledo thing, the New
Orleans insurance thing with FEMA.
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I looked this up.
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None of that
pertains to the case.
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They are going to use it
to impeach your credibility.
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And not just because
this is Salt Lake City,
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but because you are
a professional liar.
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It will be the first thing that
Andreesen brings up, I promise you.
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Unless... unless he
brings up Eloise Brand.
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Which he can't.
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Which will appear
to be very similar.
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Which is not similar. It is not
similar at all, you understand.
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There's nothing similar
about those two.
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I didn't love
Eloise Brand.
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You understand that I
didn't love Eloise Brand?
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Besides which,
it's inadmissible.
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I know this.
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It's inad...
good, okay.
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So then we'll just rely
on the jurors to unhear it
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if Dick slips and it
accidentally comes out, right?
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The point is, Eric, there is what
you would like the playing field to be
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and there is what it is.
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Which one do you want
to play on?
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- Okay. So...?
- Okay.
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What is the reality here?
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The will.
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Your argument
with Olivia,
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overheard just minutes
before the murder
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by a guy who was going
to check on a sketch
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she was apparently
drawing for his kid.
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Your fingerprints
are on the hammer.
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I was remodeling.
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Eric.
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The valets
in the lower parking lot
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describe your exit
as "rattled."
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And when the police found
you in Truckee, you fled.
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You changed
your story twice.
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And I know, I know... Eric, I
know you didn't know she was dead,
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but the fact is you lied,
for whatever reason.
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And when you agreed
to take a polygraph...
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- Volunteered.
- That's right. Yes, thank you.
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When you volunteered
against the advice
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of your
arresting officer...
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I was innocent.
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You failed your test.
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Because I was
feeling guilty,
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but not about
what they thought.
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I was a mess,
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which is why, I know,
I should have listened.
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Okay.
So, I'm sorry.
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Please,
I'm sorry, okay?
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So, what...
what are you suggesting?
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Please tell me
this isn't your full lunch.
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Yep. Hammersmith
had me until 2:00
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- bitching about the new parking.
- Oh, God. I know, right?
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Honestly I don't think
anybody likes it better.
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Right? Then he wants us to
support him on the team jerseys.
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I assume you're coming here for a
plea 'cause you don't have a case.
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Actually, I have a great case.
You don't have a body.
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You think the jury's
gonna look at one photo
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from the crime scene
and think otherwise?
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Even you don't think
otherwise!
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- I believe my client.
- Ha!
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Did they fix this or not?
It's still cold.
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Yeah, that's the new one, so I don't
think you're having, whatever, Cream of...
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- Leukemia?
- Gross.
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It's first-degree murder.
You know that.
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Without a body?
Good luck.
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What don't you like
about the new jerseys?
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- The whole "retro" thing?
- It's tired.
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- Look, I can agree to allocute for no more than 24 years.
- That's never gonna happen.
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The will? The witnesses? Even if
I drop to second, 24 is a gift.
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You know that.
Great, now it's too hot.
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We're gonna get less than that
with a jury, even in Salt Lake.
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Okay, I'll agree to not oppose
a request for no more than 20.
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I'm going in
at manslaughter, 10.
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With his priors? Really?
Yeah.
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Will you do me a favor? Will you
taste this? Smell it at least?
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It smells like soup
and chemicals.
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I don't know
what you want from me.
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We get a jury, I'll roll we
get first. I'll risk a trial.
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I will accept second, but
we have to allocute for 12.
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18, he's out in 12.
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Seriously, that is the most disgusting
thing I think I've ever tasted.
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That's because you have to
add hot water to it, Dick.
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You can't just put cold water
in it and then microwave it.
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- Right. I put cold water in?
- Yes. 14.
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Aggravated, 16. That's it.
That's all I'm doing.
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Oh. There they are,
by the way.
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Yeah, there is kind of a "Damn
Yankees" thing going on there.
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- Right?
- All right, 16.
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But we're gonna have
to do this as an Alford.
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That's fine by me.
It's all guilty.
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Hey. Hi, Alan.
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Hey, so I still cannot
get Eric Neill
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to make any sort
of a statement
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other than
a flat-out denial.
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And I know you're gonna
think that I'm crazy,
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but I'm kind of
actually...
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I'm starting
to believe him.
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- You know, Nate...
- And he gave me a name.
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Actually, he gave me
a bunch of names,
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but the one that stands out
is this Cameron Morgan.
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He's this thuggish,
young guy.
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Apparently, Olivia loved to
surround herself around young guys.
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Nate, Amy and Dick
have come to an agreement.
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Who's Amy and Dick?
Dick Andreesen?
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Wait, the prosecutor
Dick Andreesen?
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Yeah, and Amy Lambson, that new
public defender up out of Provo.
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Nice gal. Probably not
that new anymore, actually.
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Wait,
whoa, whoa, whoa.
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This isn't possible.
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I've still got
some more stuff to lay out.
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Listen to this... this guy,
Cameron, he's got a list...
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Take yes
for an answer, Nate.
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We have the guy.
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- No.
- You arrested him.
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No, I need
a few more...
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Please, can we have
a few more days?
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- Please?
- It's over.
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You done good.
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Excuse me, Petra.
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Sorry.
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There's a guy
to see you
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from the TV show
"Heart of Homicide."
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- Oh, thank you.
- Sure.
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It must have been
very, very traumatic.
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To put it mildly, yep.
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The FBI storming
your kitchen.
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Christmas Eve, right
in the middle of dinner.
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What was that like?
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Seeing your own father
dragged off like that?
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Right.
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Okay, so flash forward
10 years, here we are.
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Your brother's
been arrested.
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Does it bring up
any memories?
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You know, we're gonna ask
you a lot about your brother.
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You're okay talking
about all this?
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Yeah, I think it...
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it's gonna
get out there anyway.
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That's what
you tell a reporter
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when they ask you about
your brother's arrest?
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Well, I wasn't surprised.
I mean, it's a pattern.
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And I really don't see
how it matters now anyhow.
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It matters because your
brother's case is flimsy at best.
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And pre-trying him
in the court of public opinion
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doesn't exactly
do him any favors.
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Well, there's something else I told him
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that I guess
you're really gonna like.
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Oh, God.
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I'm the one who told
the police where he was.
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When the detective came
to Mom's hospice room,
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I told them he was at our
family's cabin in Truckee.
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Great.
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Okay, actually, maybe you should
be standing with the prosecutor.
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This is him in here.
His name is Dick Andreesen.
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And I'm happy to
introduce you if you like.
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If not, I'll just see
you in the courtroom.
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On the docket
is case number
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2013-0009.
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State of Utah
versus Eric Neill.
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It's my understanding the parties
involved have come to an agreement.
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Yes, sir, Your Honor.
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We have indeed
reached an agreement.
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The defendant has agreed
to a change of plea
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to the reduced charge
of aggravated manslaughter.
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Christmas in February.
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Excuse me.
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Cheers. Cheers, man, cheers.
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- Tom Davis.
- Alan Pape.
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I know,
the man himself.
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Uh, listen, I'll get
right to the point.
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It was really impressive work
with Eric Neill.
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- Really good stuff.
- Mmm.
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Now, I understand,
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if this doesn't fly for you,
I totally get it,
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but this crime, this...
this Eric Neill intrusion,
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it has spooked the heck
out of a lot of folks up here.
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The consensus is
we need new security.
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A new private firm,
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one we can count on,
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headed by a real pro.
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Oh, gosh, we already got some
pretty top-notch outfits here.
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You're...
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a very gracious man,
as I've heard.
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But I have not heard this
bunch agree on anything
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as simple as setbacks
from mailboxes
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like they agree
on this one big thing.
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The person
for the job...
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is Alan Pape.
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Oh, well...
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Well, I, uh...
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honestly, I... I've been
with the department...
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32 years.
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I hope you don't mind,
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a couple friends of mine at
county let me know your salary.
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Oh.
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You decide
to accept this,
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we're prepared
to triple it.
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Bring in a couple guys...
your pick.
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It's all your call.
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Well, give it
some thought.
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I'll give you a call
in a couple of days,
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just check back in.
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Again, it's really...
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stellar work.
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It's really impressive.
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Thank you.
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Lookin' at ya.
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Got it.
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- Okay,.147.
- 147.
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Edge of water.
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Other side.
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Authorities say
what could be the hand
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of famed children's book
author Olivia Lake
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has been discovered in a stream
a half mile from her property,
247
00:12:18,923 --> 00:12:20,895
adding both closure as well
as renewed attention
248
00:12:20,930 --> 00:12:23,742
to the events surrounding
her now four-year-old murder.
249
00:12:23,777 --> 00:12:26,555
Investigators are swarming
the abandoned mine shafts
250
00:12:26,590 --> 00:12:28,305
that dot the estate
surrounding Lake's...
251
00:12:49,514 --> 00:12:53,763
This call is subject
to monitoring and recording.
252
00:12:56,347 --> 00:13:01,555
So many, whatever,
pithy lines I wrote
253
00:13:01,590 --> 00:13:03,555
for this very moment.
254
00:13:05,347 --> 00:13:07,846
Was that one of them?
255
00:13:07,881 --> 00:13:10,645
No, but this is.
256
00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:13,270
Unless I'm wrong,
which I doubt,
257
00:13:13,305 --> 00:13:17,514
because I have nothing else to
do but go over this ad infinitum,
258
00:13:17,549 --> 00:13:19,020
the last I heard,
it was you
259
00:13:19,055 --> 00:13:22,763
who turned me over
to the fucking police.
260
00:13:22,798 --> 00:13:25,555
Why are you here now?
261
00:13:35,888 --> 00:13:37,895
State law says
that conditional gifts
262
00:13:37,930 --> 00:13:41,138
when the condition's precedent go
unfulfilled become the property of the giver,
263
00:13:41,173 --> 00:13:43,097
the condition in this case
being "Will you marry me,"
264
00:13:43,132 --> 00:13:46,721
the nonfulfillment being
"I can't, I'm dead."
265
00:13:47,888 --> 00:13:49,471
The fucking police
gave it to me.
266
00:13:49,506 --> 00:13:51,055
What would you like me
to do with it?
267
00:13:52,930 --> 00:13:56,263
So, you're here
'cause you wanna know
268
00:13:56,298 --> 00:13:59,596
what to do
with Aunt Beth's ring.
269
00:13:59,631 --> 00:14:01,103
What happened?
270
00:14:01,138 --> 00:14:05,846
Since Mom died, you don't
have any other projects?
271
00:14:05,881 --> 00:14:07,645
You know what?
272
00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:09,305
This will be in Salt Lake in storage.
273
00:14:09,340 --> 00:14:10,645
You can get it
in 2032.
274
00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:12,895
I'm not interested
in being the rudder
275
00:14:12,930 --> 00:14:17,972
that keeps you from
free-forming around your life.
276
00:14:18,007 --> 00:14:19,270
Are you serious?
277
00:14:19,305 --> 00:14:22,013
Or one of your books you
get 600 pages in writing
278
00:14:22,048 --> 00:14:23,972
and then abandon
completely.
279
00:14:24,007 --> 00:14:26,229
Okay, you know what?
280
00:14:26,264 --> 00:14:29,222
I was wrong to think that
you might not deserve this.
281
00:14:29,257 --> 00:14:30,885
W- Wait!
282
00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,508
I'm sorry.
283
00:14:32,543 --> 00:14:34,097
I'm sorry!
284
00:14:39,638 --> 00:14:41,561
I'm sorry.
285
00:14:41,596 --> 00:14:43,638
Don't abandon me.
286
00:14:49,846 --> 00:14:51,555
- There you go.
- Great, thank you so much.
287
00:14:51,590 --> 00:14:52,472
You're welcome.
288
00:14:54,638 --> 00:14:56,721
Hey, Jim, take care
of this for me, okay?
289
00:14:56,756 --> 00:14:58,638
Yeah, I'm back.
So, when?
290
00:14:58,673 --> 00:14:59,937
Monday?
291
00:14:59,972 --> 00:15:01,555
No, no, no,
what do you mean Monday?
292
00:15:01,590 --> 00:15:03,103
This is mining country, man.
293
00:15:03,138 --> 00:15:05,888
There are more geologists
than there are Starbucks.
294
00:15:05,923 --> 00:15:08,103
Then you call
someone else.
295
00:15:08,138 --> 00:15:11,055
No, hold on, there has to be
something that can dig that deep
296
00:15:11,090 --> 00:15:13,020
in the amount of time
that we need it.
297
00:15:13,055 --> 00:15:16,930
Then... then you make new
connections, thank you!
298
00:15:16,965 --> 00:15:18,770
- Detective Henry. Hi. Nate.
- What? Hi.
299
00:15:18,805 --> 00:15:21,103
- We met a few years ago. I'm Petra.
- Petra.
300
00:15:21,138 --> 00:15:23,638
You're familiar with the Government
Records Access and Management Act, I assume.
301
00:15:23,673 --> 00:15:25,937
I'm not,
but I am with you.
302
00:15:25,972 --> 00:15:28,492
What department did you say
you were with again, Petra?
303
00:15:28,527 --> 00:15:31,013
Actually, I'm not with a
department. I'm Petra Neill.
304
00:15:31,048 --> 00:15:33,603
Oh, Jesus. No, no, you
can't be here, then.
305
00:15:33,638 --> 00:15:36,013
- Please, just give me a moment.
- No, no, no, you can't be here.
306
00:15:36,048 --> 00:15:38,222
- A GRAMA request makes cops' notes available...
- GRAMA?
307
00:15:38,257 --> 00:15:39,811
- G-R-A-M-A...
- GRAMA.
308
00:15:39,846 --> 00:15:41,867
...makes cops' notes
available to the defense,
309
00:15:41,902 --> 00:15:43,888
which makes them
part of the trial record.
310
00:15:43,923 --> 00:15:45,635
Okay, which means
you have my notes,
311
00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:47,312
and I need you
off the property now.
312
00:15:47,347 --> 00:15:49,034
I have copies, which is why I
have a few questions for you.
313
00:15:49,069 --> 00:15:50,721
On the night of the murder,
you interviewed Joel Hurley.
314
00:15:50,756 --> 00:15:52,103
That's what
this is, right?
315
00:15:52,138 --> 00:15:54,180
Then you also interviewed
his friend, Frank Scott.
316
00:15:54,215 --> 00:15:55,770
Uh, yeah.
317
00:15:55,805 --> 00:15:58,680
What I noticed was when referring
to the night Olivia was killed,
318
00:15:58,715 --> 00:16:00,686
Joel said, "We took El
Camino to Arroyo Parkway
319
00:16:00,721 --> 00:16:02,888
to the Eastridge Mall
and saw the 10:20 'Hobbit 2.'"
320
00:16:02,923 --> 00:16:05,055
- Yeah, if you say so.
- Now listen to what Frank said.
321
00:16:05,090 --> 00:16:07,145
No comment.
322
00:16:07,180 --> 00:16:08,603
"We went to
Eastridge Mall.
323
00:16:08,638 --> 00:16:11,222
We took El Camino to Arroyo,
and we saw the 10:20 showing
324
00:16:11,257 --> 00:16:12,853
The Desolation of Smaug.'"
325
00:16:12,888 --> 00:16:15,221
Go to two. I don't
understand your point.
326
00:16:15,256 --> 00:16:17,555
They both almost said
exactly the same thing.
327
00:16:17,590 --> 00:16:19,972
They were going
to see the same movie.
328
00:16:20,007 --> 00:16:21,531
Okay.
Okay, sure, fine.
329
00:16:21,566 --> 00:16:23,020
But here's my question.
330
00:16:23,055 --> 00:16:25,555
Who says which road they took
and the exact time of the show
331
00:16:25,590 --> 00:16:27,389
when they're talking about
where they were one night?
332
00:16:27,424 --> 00:16:30,389
Two people who are talking
to a police detective
333
00:16:30,424 --> 00:16:32,561
the day after a murder
was discovered.
334
00:16:32,596 --> 00:16:35,492
Hey, if you're suggesting
that two guys that I've known,
335
00:16:35,527 --> 00:16:38,389
one I knew for two years, one
I've known for well over 30,
336
00:16:38,424 --> 00:16:40,062
are lying
for some reason...
337
00:16:40,097 --> 00:16:42,180
No, what I'm saying is that
every other person in your notes
338
00:16:42,215 --> 00:16:44,020
spoke a certain way,
and these two didn't.
339
00:16:44,055 --> 00:16:46,055
And honestly, I'm
surprised you didn't notice.
340
00:16:49,055 --> 00:16:51,062
You ever heard
of zebra-itis?
341
00:16:51,097 --> 00:16:53,930
- No. - Okay, here's
what zebra-itis is,
342
00:16:53,965 --> 00:16:56,760
and then I'm gonna
need you to step back
343
00:16:56,795 --> 00:16:59,520
and stop contaminating
my crime scene.
344
00:16:59,555 --> 00:17:03,347
If it smells like a horse and
it leaves a trail of horse prints
345
00:17:03,382 --> 00:17:05,638
and a big pile
of horse manure,
346
00:17:05,673 --> 00:17:07,811
it's a horse.
347
00:17:07,846 --> 00:17:11,283
But amateurs and rookies,
they think they're so smart.
348
00:17:11,318 --> 00:17:14,721
Web sleuths spend all day
poking through rainbows,
349
00:17:14,756 --> 00:17:16,603
looking for zebras.
350
00:17:16,638 --> 00:17:18,354
- Unicorns.
- I'm sorry?
351
00:17:18,389 --> 00:17:20,062
Which still would work
as a metaphor,
352
00:17:20,097 --> 00:17:22,930
but rainbows is unicorns, even
though I totally get your point.
353
00:17:24,097 --> 00:17:25,853
I need you
to move now.
354
00:17:25,888 --> 00:17:27,763
- You didn't think it was a horse.
- Yo, Adam!
355
00:17:27,798 --> 00:17:29,437
- Please.
- "All signs point to Eric,
356
00:17:29,472 --> 00:17:32,138
but in my gut, hmm, it just
doesn't feel like Eric to me."
357
00:17:32,173 --> 00:17:34,301
Emphasis mine, but
you said it to yourself
358
00:17:34,336 --> 00:17:36,528
in your own case notes
right here, page 31.
359
00:17:36,563 --> 00:17:38,721
You didn't think
it was Eric at the time.
360
00:17:43,805 --> 00:17:46,305
I got this, Adam.
Thanks, anyway.
361
00:17:48,555 --> 00:17:52,180
Look, I'm just one guy.
I'm not the system, so...
362
00:17:52,215 --> 00:17:54,187
But you got angry
at the system.
363
00:17:54,222 --> 00:17:57,013
Your letter to the prosecutor, Dick
Andreesen, asking for more time,
364
00:17:57,048 --> 00:17:58,603
it's in the discovery.
365
00:17:58,638 --> 00:18:01,846
Even though he had already
closed down the investigation.
366
00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:04,430
You were looking for
the elusive zebra, perhaps?
367
00:18:05,596 --> 00:18:07,437
Unicorn maybe,
even?
368
00:18:07,472 --> 00:18:09,978
My issues with what
went down four years ago
369
00:18:10,013 --> 00:18:12,062
have nothing to do with
what's happening here now.
370
00:18:12,097 --> 00:18:14,305
Olivia's friend JC said Joel
owed her 10 months' back rent
371
00:18:14,340 --> 00:18:15,593
by the night
of the murder.
372
00:18:15,628 --> 00:18:16,811
And Horacio,
the gardener,
373
00:18:16,846 --> 00:18:18,346
said that Joel
sold him his truck
374
00:18:18,381 --> 00:18:19,811
for a quarter
of what it was worth
375
00:18:19,846 --> 00:18:23,596
and then split town three
days after the murder.
376
00:18:23,631 --> 00:18:25,738
What are you
trying to say?
377
00:18:25,773 --> 00:18:27,811
I want to talk
to Frank Scott.
378
00:18:27,846 --> 00:18:29,763
You don't think it's weird
that you found the hand
379
00:18:29,798 --> 00:18:32,176
on Michael O'Connor's
property?
380
00:18:32,211 --> 00:18:34,520
And on the day
Olivia was murdered,
381
00:18:34,555 --> 00:18:37,972
she called Michael O'Connor and
talked to him for, like, a minute...
382
00:18:38,007 --> 00:18:40,760
- 52 seconds.
- ...just before she died.
383
00:18:40,795 --> 00:18:43,514
Yeah, I did find that weird at the time.
384
00:18:44,721 --> 00:18:45,846
And?
385
00:18:49,264 --> 00:18:51,555
Believe it or not,
you know,
386
00:18:51,590 --> 00:18:53,686
I followed up on that.
387
00:18:53,721 --> 00:18:56,264
There were witnesses
to the call.
388
00:18:56,299 --> 00:18:57,645
Olivia was upset.
389
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,680
She had had a fight
with your brother.
390
00:18:59,715 --> 00:19:01,638
Michael tried
to console her.
391
00:19:01,673 --> 00:19:03,770
He couldn't.
392
00:19:03,805 --> 00:19:06,617
Okay, don't you think
it's weird that she...
393
00:19:06,652 --> 00:19:09,124
that Michael and his
associate, Tom Davis,
394
00:19:09,159 --> 00:19:11,596
flew to Turks and Caicos
the very next day?
395
00:19:11,631 --> 00:19:15,176
As they did
every New Year's.
396
00:19:15,211 --> 00:19:17,862
Same destination,
same flight.
397
00:19:17,897 --> 00:19:20,514
You know what
would've been weird?
398
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:22,062
If they didn't leave.
399
00:19:22,097 --> 00:19:23,930
Have you
re-interviewed him?
400
00:19:23,965 --> 00:19:26,805
- No.
- Because?
401
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,811
Because...
402
00:19:28,846 --> 00:19:31,888
because of what you've
already read in my notes.
403
00:19:31,923 --> 00:19:33,354
He never left the house.
404
00:19:33,389 --> 00:19:36,138
His cell phone
never left the house.
405
00:19:36,173 --> 00:19:38,853
- There were...
- Witnesses, I get it.
406
00:19:38,888 --> 00:19:42,763
- Wait, was the hand...?
- What, cut off in the murder?
407
00:19:42,798 --> 00:19:45,138
Not unless she was killed
by a dozen tiny rodents
408
00:19:45,173 --> 00:19:48,437
over a period
of 8 to 10 months, no.
409
00:19:48,472 --> 00:19:51,264
And, yes, we are checking
all the old mine shafts
410
00:19:51,299 --> 00:19:53,222
that feed
into that stream.
411
00:19:57,305 --> 00:19:58,930
I got a question
for you.
412
00:20:00,596 --> 00:20:02,972
You care so much
about your brother Eric...
413
00:20:05,430 --> 00:20:07,888
Where were you
when he needed you most?
414
00:20:09,930 --> 00:20:11,097
Hmm?
415
00:20:13,055 --> 00:20:15,492
And why now,
four years later,
416
00:20:15,527 --> 00:20:17,930
are you suddenly
all over this?
417
00:20:20,721 --> 00:20:24,680
I think I might have
been wrong about Eric
418
00:20:24,715 --> 00:20:28,430
in this
specific situation.
419
00:20:28,465 --> 00:20:30,822
Ah, oh.
420
00:20:30,857 --> 00:20:32,831
Okay.
421
00:20:32,866 --> 00:20:34,502
Hmm.
422
00:20:34,537 --> 00:20:36,138
Okay.
423
00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:38,680
So, this is about you.
424
00:20:44,430 --> 00:20:45,805
I mean, yeah.
425
00:20:47,389 --> 00:20:50,264
What?
We went to the movies.
426
00:20:50,299 --> 00:20:52,103
"Hobbit."
427
00:20:52,138 --> 00:20:54,187
"Hobbit 2."
10:20 show.
428
00:20:54,222 --> 00:20:56,721
You took El Camino to Arroyo
Parkway to the Eastridge Mall.
429
00:20:56,756 --> 00:20:59,937
It's all
in the case notes.
430
00:20:59,972 --> 00:21:02,972
- Do you wanna stick with that?
- Would you let me...?
431
00:21:03,007 --> 00:21:05,103
I'll ask
the questions.
432
00:21:05,138 --> 00:21:07,138
Hey, so,
all we need to know
433
00:21:07,173 --> 00:21:09,739
is if you and Joel,
434
00:21:09,774 --> 00:21:12,019
for whatever reason,
435
00:21:12,054 --> 00:21:14,229
made up that story.
436
00:21:14,264 --> 00:21:18,846
I can find out now
or we can talk later.
437
00:21:18,881 --> 00:21:20,680
I can find out then.
438
00:21:23,555 --> 00:21:24,680
Okay.
439
00:21:27,305 --> 00:21:29,145
Okay.
440
00:21:29,180 --> 00:21:32,638
- If you're really asking me.
- Yeah.
441
00:21:34,138 --> 00:21:37,354
I've got this
to say about Joel.
442
00:21:37,389 --> 00:21:40,972
There's the Joel
that everyone sees...
443
00:21:44,013 --> 00:21:46,846
and then there's
the other Joel.
444
00:21:51,972 --> 00:21:54,888
I don't understand
why that's emasculating.
445
00:21:54,923 --> 00:21:57,555
Oh, co... at the crime scene?
446
00:21:57,590 --> 00:21:58,978
In front of everybody?
447
00:21:59,013 --> 00:22:02,305
And making me have
no choice about it?
448
00:22:02,340 --> 00:22:04,270
Uh, where's Morgan?
449
00:22:04,305 --> 00:22:06,784
At Owen's.
I'll text Marney.
450
00:22:06,819 --> 00:22:09,229
And you know Frank.
I mean...
451
00:22:09,264 --> 00:22:13,264
like I'm going to empower
her to talk to him?
452
00:22:13,299 --> 00:22:14,853
To Frank?
453
00:22:14,888 --> 00:22:18,347
You're not empowering her.
She already has the power.
454
00:22:18,382 --> 00:22:19,895
She's a private citizen.
455
00:22:19,930 --> 00:22:21,520
She can talk
to whoever she wants.
456
00:22:21,555 --> 00:22:23,978
You're just afraid that...
'cause Frank is...
457
00:22:24,013 --> 00:22:26,721
- The loosest cannon ever.
- That you're gonna lose control.
458
00:22:28,596 --> 00:22:32,347
I don't even know
what it's control of.
459
00:22:32,382 --> 00:22:34,395
But this hand comes up,
460
00:22:34,430 --> 00:22:36,853
and then this girl
shows up,
461
00:22:36,888 --> 00:22:42,264
and suddenly I have no choice but to follow
somebody else's agenda and it's not mine.
462
00:22:42,299 --> 00:22:44,062
It sounds like
she was right.
463
00:22:44,097 --> 00:22:47,222
- Which is beside the point.
- Which is exactly the point.
464
00:22:47,257 --> 00:22:48,937
- No, it's not.
- Yes.
465
00:22:48,972 --> 00:22:52,805
You had the case completely yanked
away from you four years ago.
466
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,561
You never liked
the result,
467
00:22:54,596 --> 00:22:59,472
and if it was some dude who just
suddenly showed up out of the blue,
468
00:22:59,507 --> 00:23:02,264
you would be saying to me,
"Mel, oh, my God,
469
00:23:02,299 --> 00:23:04,264
the luckiest thing
happened."
470
00:23:05,888 --> 00:23:08,437
I don't see
where this is going.
471
00:23:08,472 --> 00:23:12,638
You were emasculated
because it was a woman,
472
00:23:12,673 --> 00:23:14,264
is what I'm saying.
473
00:23:17,305 --> 00:23:20,721
Okay.
I believe you're correct.
474
00:23:20,756 --> 00:23:22,603
Yeah, I know.
475
00:23:22,638 --> 00:23:25,811
You'll be fine.
You can handle her.
476
00:23:25,846 --> 00:23:29,680
You know who I would
be worried about is Alan.
477
00:23:31,805 --> 00:23:35,721
Assuming she can get Joel back,
when do you think that would be?
478
00:23:35,756 --> 00:23:38,062
Oh!
And that's another thing.
479
00:23:38,097 --> 00:23:42,805
She's so supremely confident that
she can get Joel to come back.
480
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,645
I mean, Joel?
481
00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:47,229
Joel freaking hated it here by the end.
482
00:23:47,264 --> 00:23:49,138
I mean, come on,
you saw his Facebook posts.
483
00:23:51,180 --> 00:23:54,514
He's a totally different guy
down there.
484
00:23:54,549 --> 00:23:58,479
I say there's no way
485
00:23:58,514 --> 00:24:00,347
she'll get him
to come back.
486
00:24:03,514 --> 00:24:04,514
What?
487
00:24:06,347 --> 00:24:09,264
I think you're
underestimating this person.
488
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,305
We'll go right up these lilies
here. All right! Whoo-hoo!
489
00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:17,593
Here we go!
490
00:24:17,628 --> 00:24:19,425
Oh, yeah!
491
00:24:19,460 --> 00:24:21,187
Whoo!
492
00:24:21,222 --> 00:24:23,347
- Whoo-hoo!
- Whoo!
493
00:24:27,972 --> 00:24:30,479
What can kill an alligator?
494
00:24:30,514 --> 00:24:33,763
Let's see. What can
hurt one of these things?
495
00:24:33,798 --> 00:24:35,514
What can harm
an alligator?
496
00:24:37,013 --> 00:24:38,097
Nothing.
497
00:24:40,055 --> 00:24:43,159
Well, scratch that. We can.
We're its only predators.
498
00:24:43,194 --> 00:24:46,264
Unless you keep leaning over
the edge like that, Junior.
499
00:24:46,299 --> 00:24:47,347
Then things
are gonna change.
500
00:24:50,347 --> 00:24:53,728
Uh, uh, Junior...
501
00:24:53,763 --> 00:24:55,804
- You see that out there?
- Where?
502
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:57,846
Straight? That's our little trophy.
503
00:24:57,881 --> 00:24:59,312
Straight ahead,
right there!
504
00:24:59,347 --> 00:25:01,354
- Right there.
- Let's not spook this one.
505
00:25:01,389 --> 00:25:04,263
- See him right there just beyond that tree?
- Yeah.
506
00:25:04,298 --> 00:25:07,138
All right, the next job is
get that sucker on the boat.
507
00:25:07,173 --> 00:25:08,930
Who's gonna
do the deed? Ava?
508
00:25:08,965 --> 00:25:11,062
Thanks, but, no, thanks.
509
00:25:11,097 --> 00:25:14,264
Okay, definitely not Ava.
How about you, Dad?
510
00:25:16,763 --> 00:25:18,638
- Taylor?
- Oh, Junior?
511
00:25:18,673 --> 00:25:20,354
You gonna do it?
512
00:25:20,389 --> 00:25:22,430
- Huh?
- I think so.
513
00:25:22,465 --> 00:25:23,728
All right.
514
00:25:23,763 --> 00:25:25,062
I thought
you might be unsure,
515
00:25:25,097 --> 00:25:28,596
but you're gonna
give her a go, huh?
516
00:25:28,631 --> 00:25:31,229
Put it on
your shoulder, son.
517
00:25:31,264 --> 00:25:33,596
You ever handle
one of these before?
518
00:25:33,631 --> 00:25:36,395
Not too many times.
519
00:25:36,430 --> 00:25:38,229
I know it's hard
with that life preserver,
520
00:25:38,264 --> 00:25:41,909
but you just put her right
up there on your arm there.
521
00:25:41,944 --> 00:25:44,812
Make sure it's on safety until
you get that sucker ready.
522
00:25:44,847 --> 00:25:47,645
You're gonna wanna hit it
just between the eyes here.
523
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:52,097
- That's the sweet... that's the sweet spot.
- Nice, deep breath.
524
00:25:52,132 --> 00:25:53,479
Nice, deep breath.
525
00:25:53,514 --> 00:25:55,763
You don't wanna ruin
that trophy.
526
00:25:55,798 --> 00:25:57,062
Yeah!
527
00:25:57,097 --> 00:25:59,638
There you go, Junior!
528
00:26:03,972 --> 00:26:05,811
Skin's all rolled up.
529
00:26:05,846 --> 00:26:08,805
Tell Ty I sent you. He'll cut
you a deal on that taxidermy.
530
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,638
- Sounds good.
- I got your meat on the ice here.
531
00:26:11,673 --> 00:26:13,680
Keep these "not for sale"
stickers visible
532
00:26:13,715 --> 00:26:15,472
in case
the DWF stops you.
533
00:26:15,507 --> 00:26:17,270
You are good to go.
534
00:26:17,305 --> 00:26:18,888
- Thanks, Joel.
- My pleasure.
535
00:26:18,923 --> 00:26:21,138
Buckshot,
hold onto that.
536
00:26:21,173 --> 00:26:22,229
Bye.
537
00:26:22,264 --> 00:26:23,520
Hope you had
a great time.
538
00:26:23,555 --> 00:26:25,811
If you did, we're
Big Bayou Gator Guides.
539
00:26:25,846 --> 00:26:29,721
If not, we're Outdoor
Adventures, as the joke goes.
540
00:26:29,756 --> 00:26:32,770
Thanks, Pat.
541
00:26:32,805 --> 00:26:35,514
Hope they got the sizes right this time.
542
00:26:45,972 --> 00:26:47,347
Bobby.
543
00:26:49,138 --> 00:26:50,853
Oh, hi.
544
00:26:50,888 --> 00:26:54,055
I didn't see you there. Can
I help you with something?
545
00:26:54,090 --> 00:26:56,389
- Are you Joel Hurley?
- I am.
546
00:26:56,424 --> 00:26:58,180
Oh, thank God.
547
00:27:00,138 --> 00:27:02,846
Can we go somewhere
and talk?
548
00:27:02,881 --> 00:27:06,846
Ugh!
549
00:27:08,596 --> 00:27:11,395
Bobby! Sorry.
550
00:27:11,430 --> 00:27:13,187
They got
the kids large again.
551
00:27:13,222 --> 00:27:14,951
You gotta call them
about next week.
552
00:27:14,986 --> 00:27:16,645
I still haven't gotten
their thing.
553
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,013
I'll give them a shout and get it straight.
- Sorry.
554
00:27:20,048 --> 00:27:21,555
Is this your art?
555
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:22,888
It is.
556
00:27:33,721 --> 00:27:36,222
Do you
recognize me?
557
00:27:36,257 --> 00:27:37,686
Should I?
558
00:27:37,721 --> 00:27:40,264
I'm Petra Neill.
I'm Eric Neill's sister.
559
00:27:42,013 --> 00:27:45,479
Please, just hear me out.
- Look, I hardly knew him.
560
00:27:45,514 --> 00:27:48,534
- And from what I did know...
- I know he could be complicated.
561
00:27:48,569 --> 00:27:51,555
No, he could be an asshole is
what he could be, to be honest.
562
00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:55,187
Well, he said that
you were a good guy.
563
00:27:55,222 --> 00:27:58,888
He said you might be the
only one who could help me.
564
00:27:58,923 --> 00:28:00,596
He said you'd
at least listen.
565
00:28:00,631 --> 00:28:01,888
Please.
566
00:28:05,888 --> 00:28:07,680
Do you mind
if we change the music?
567
00:28:07,715 --> 00:28:11,145
- Sure. To what?
- Silence.
568
00:28:11,180 --> 00:28:16,596
- Okay, the music
is now silence.
569
00:28:16,631 --> 00:28:18,479
What's up?
570
00:28:18,514 --> 00:28:22,159
Do you remember one night, maybe
a week or two before the murder,
571
00:28:22,194 --> 00:28:25,805
when you saw someone on the
property and you chased him off?
572
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,145
Why?
573
00:28:27,180 --> 00:28:29,555
You told Eric about it
that night.
574
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:31,930
You said his name
was Cameron.
575
00:28:31,965 --> 00:28:34,264
I think, uh...
576
00:28:36,930 --> 00:28:40,430
someone told me then
that it would've been Cameron,
577
00:28:40,465 --> 00:28:42,260
so, sure, Cameron.
578
00:28:42,295 --> 00:28:44,020
I need to find him.
579
00:28:44,055 --> 00:28:46,013
Well, I saw him
for about 10 seconds.
580
00:28:46,048 --> 00:28:47,937
It was in the dark.
It was the woods.
581
00:28:47,972 --> 00:28:51,013
He got in the car and drove off, so
I'd have no idea on how to locate him.
582
00:28:51,048 --> 00:28:54,138
So he could... he said those
will work until we get the 400s.
583
00:28:54,173 --> 00:28:57,822
There was someone in that car
that Cameron got into.
584
00:28:57,857 --> 00:29:01,437
And you told Eric back then
that you might know him.
585
00:29:01,472 --> 00:29:04,972
I think I said that he might have
looked vaguely familiar, yeah.
586
00:29:05,007 --> 00:29:07,103
You said he was
a bartender.
587
00:29:07,138 --> 00:29:09,264
Look, I don't know.
It was four years ago.
588
00:29:09,299 --> 00:29:10,978
Do you remember
which bar?
589
00:29:11,013 --> 00:29:14,770
Oh, God, I...
I really don't know.
590
00:29:14,805 --> 00:29:18,138
Please don't tell me this is what you
flew all the way down here to find out.
591
00:29:27,930 --> 00:29:29,389
Keep going.
I'm listening.
592
00:29:31,180 --> 00:29:33,103
I believe my brother
is innocent.
593
00:29:33,138 --> 00:29:35,763
Of the crime that
he confessed to committing?
594
00:29:35,798 --> 00:29:38,389
He pled out
without admitting guilt.
595
00:29:38,424 --> 00:29:39,972
He had
no other choice.
596
00:29:41,555 --> 00:29:45,638
The media, his lawyer,
everyone rushed to judgment.
597
00:29:45,673 --> 00:29:47,895
But they never
found a body.
598
00:29:47,930 --> 00:29:51,180
And I believe that if I can
prove there were other suspects,
599
00:29:51,215 --> 00:29:53,530
people that
the attorney overlooked,
600
00:29:53,565 --> 00:29:55,846
then I believe I can
get him an appeal.
601
00:29:55,881 --> 00:29:57,738
Now, after
all this time?
602
00:29:57,773 --> 00:29:59,561
There's new
information.
603
00:29:59,596 --> 00:30:02,805
In prison, someone told
Eric that that guy Cameron
604
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,301
was talking about a safe
in Olivia's studio
605
00:30:05,336 --> 00:30:08,133
and how she kept cash
and drawings in there.
606
00:30:08,168 --> 00:30:10,930
And Eric has been writing
to his lawyer, but...
607
00:30:10,965 --> 00:30:12,264
don't get me
started on her.
608
00:30:12,299 --> 00:30:16,479
So, please...
609
00:30:16,514 --> 00:30:20,472
do you think maybe
you can remember which bar?
610
00:30:20,507 --> 00:30:23,555
If I can find out
who that bartender is,
611
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:25,020
I think maybe
I can find Cameron.
612
00:30:25,055 --> 00:30:28,145
You know the town.
There are a lot of bars.
613
00:30:28,180 --> 00:30:31,055
Could you point it out
if you were standing there?
614
00:30:31,090 --> 00:30:34,645
I don't know.
Possibly.
615
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,721
Would you know him
if you saw him?
616
00:30:36,756 --> 00:30:38,347
What are you asking me?
617
00:30:39,930 --> 00:30:41,686
No, I can't
go back there.
618
00:30:41,721 --> 00:30:43,895
Just for a day or two.
That's all I need.
619
00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:47,389
Please. You know the area.
You lived on the property.
620
00:30:47,424 --> 00:30:49,055
You know the town,
you know the people.
621
00:30:49,090 --> 00:30:50,222
Knew.
622
00:30:51,846 --> 00:30:53,888
Please, just think
about it?
623
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:56,721
Here's my number.
624
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:03,145
I have no one else
I can turn to.
625
00:31:03,180 --> 00:31:06,097
You're literally the only person
on the planet who could help me.
626
00:31:08,055 --> 00:31:09,138
Please.
627
00:31:10,347 --> 00:31:12,347
I'm sorry.
I can't.
628
00:31:26,514 --> 00:31:28,555
- Hey, babe.
- How was work, honey?
629
00:31:28,590 --> 00:31:29,472
Fine.
630
00:31:33,097 --> 00:31:35,229
What's going on?
631
00:31:35,264 --> 00:31:40,097
So, this is all just about
finding Cameron, really?
632
00:31:44,138 --> 00:31:45,811
Yeah.
633
00:31:45,846 --> 00:31:48,437
You... I mean,
the weird thing
634
00:31:48,472 --> 00:31:52,721
is that I was gonna tell the
police back then about Cameron,
635
00:31:52,756 --> 00:31:54,770
but, you know,
I just got caught up
636
00:31:54,805 --> 00:31:57,347
in the whole "Eric, Eric" thing
with everybody else, and...
637
00:31:58,596 --> 00:32:00,020
I mean,
even when we got here,
638
00:32:00,055 --> 00:32:02,971
it just... it still
kept eating at me,
639
00:32:03,006 --> 00:32:06,009
that look on
Cameron's face that night.
640
00:32:06,044 --> 00:32:09,013
It was... like,
you know how crocodiles,
641
00:32:09,048 --> 00:32:11,145
they have that
lower row of teeth
642
00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:14,180
like they're smiling at you, like
they know something about you?
643
00:32:15,472 --> 00:32:16,846
That was Cameron.
644
00:32:19,013 --> 00:32:21,596
Then Eric confesses
and four years go by
645
00:32:21,631 --> 00:32:25,187
and Olivia's hand
shows up
646
00:32:25,222 --> 00:32:28,389
and his sister
flies down to Louisiana,
647
00:32:28,424 --> 00:32:31,062
and now, fuck.
648
00:32:31,097 --> 00:32:34,138
So, what's the problem?
649
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,513
There's a reason we left there,
and it wasn't just Olivia.
650
00:32:44,548 --> 00:32:48,347
To be honest, I don't think
I can go back there again.
651
00:32:50,222 --> 00:32:51,930
Why are you looking at me like that?
652
00:32:51,965 --> 00:32:53,805
Well,
of course you can.
653
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:58,596
I swore to myself
I never would.
654
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,200
Yeah, but you're
different now.
655
00:33:03,235 --> 00:33:05,721
Everything's
different now.
656
00:33:07,264 --> 00:33:09,138
I know you don't
believe in the universe...
657
00:33:09,173 --> 00:33:11,437
Well, I believe it exists.
658
00:33:11,472 --> 00:33:14,680
But you don't believe
it gives you opportunities.
659
00:33:14,715 --> 00:33:17,354
Oh, it really hasn't.
660
00:33:17,389 --> 00:33:20,763
Well, what if
the one thing between...
661
00:33:20,798 --> 00:33:24,103
- How long is it total?
- 15 to 20.
662
00:33:24,138 --> 00:33:28,013
Yeah, well, what if the difference
between 16 more years of jail
663
00:33:28,048 --> 00:33:30,430
and his sudden freedom
is you?
664
00:33:34,222 --> 00:33:37,055
How come you get
to be so perfect?
665
00:33:37,090 --> 00:33:39,888
- Because I don't.
- Because you do.
666
00:33:42,055 --> 00:33:43,596
And you are.
667
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,222
I still can't believe
we made it here.
668
00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:56,097
Come here.
669
00:34:07,264 --> 00:34:08,728
I love you.
670
00:34:08,763 --> 00:34:10,555
I love you, too.
671
00:35:15,347 --> 00:35:17,686
It's kind of okay,
actually.
672
00:35:17,721 --> 00:35:21,721
In my mind, Summit had
morphed into this Arkham,
673
00:35:21,756 --> 00:35:25,721
Hellboy, Lovecrafty, Salem,
Hall of Ghosts thing,
674
00:35:25,756 --> 00:35:27,978
and then I get here
and it's like,
675
00:35:28,013 --> 00:35:30,888
"Oh, right, it's just
craft stores and galleries
676
00:35:30,923 --> 00:35:33,763
and... here's a word
I don't use that often...
677
00:35:33,798 --> 00:35:35,389
it's quaint."
678
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,229
And she is
in a pipe dream.
679
00:35:38,264 --> 00:35:41,721
I don't wanna say
I feel sorry for her, but...
680
00:35:41,756 --> 00:35:44,676
Uh, all right.
Speak to you soon, love.
681
00:35:44,711 --> 00:35:47,596
We're off to go
track down a ghost.
682
00:35:47,631 --> 00:35:50,520
Yeah. Love you, too. Bye.
683
00:35:50,555 --> 00:35:51,721
- Sorry.
- Got you one anyway.
684
00:35:51,756 --> 00:35:53,062
- Thanks.
- It's okay.
685
00:35:53,097 --> 00:35:55,020
Oh, here.
Also if you need it.
686
00:35:55,055 --> 00:35:57,222
I need to step away
for a few minutes.
687
00:35:57,257 --> 00:35:59,389
I have some things
I need to take care of.
688
00:35:59,424 --> 00:36:01,572
Uh, wait, seriously?
689
00:36:01,607 --> 00:36:03,686
Yeah, I... I, uh...
690
00:36:03,721 --> 00:36:05,846
I gotta follow up on some stuff
that I started the other day.
691
00:36:05,881 --> 00:36:08,312
But if you find anything,
just text me.
692
00:36:08,347 --> 00:36:10,596
- All right.
- Otherwise, an hour, hour and a half?
693
00:36:10,631 --> 00:36:12,555
Yeah, all right.
694
00:36:12,590 --> 00:36:13,978
I'll, uh...
695
00:36:14,013 --> 00:36:17,930
I'll just go track down
the dude that knew Cameron.
696
00:36:17,965 --> 00:36:19,479
Great.
697
00:36:19,514 --> 00:36:21,013
Yeah,
should be easy.
698
00:36:21,048 --> 00:36:22,937
All right.
Okay.
699
00:36:22,972 --> 00:36:24,770
- Hour.
- Oh, and, Joel?
700
00:36:24,805 --> 00:36:28,097
- Yeah?
- Seriously, thank you.
701
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,937
Yeah, of course.
702
00:36:31,972 --> 00:36:34,138
- All right, I'll see you soon.
- Okay.
703
00:37:51,805 --> 00:37:53,978
Yeah, shit,
I remember that clown.
704
00:37:54,013 --> 00:37:57,721
If you do find him, tell him
he still owes me for two months.
705
00:37:57,756 --> 00:38:00,510
Better yet, bring him
here. I'll tell him myself.
706
00:38:00,545 --> 00:38:03,229
Well, he was here
with a girl, though, right?
707
00:38:03,264 --> 00:38:06,013
Yeah, poor little seƱorita.
She didn't know what hit her.
708
00:38:06,048 --> 00:38:08,180
Then that guy,
pfft, bolts
709
00:38:08,215 --> 00:38:10,472
day before Christmas.
710
00:38:12,888 --> 00:38:14,479
Any idea
where she is?
711
00:38:14,514 --> 00:38:18,555
Mmm, I wanna say she was
gone about a week later.
712
00:38:18,590 --> 00:38:20,468
She's Mexican.
713
00:38:20,503 --> 00:38:22,529
Could be anywhere.
714
00:38:22,564 --> 00:38:24,663
She got a name?
715
00:38:24,698 --> 00:38:26,728
Yeah, Leticia.
716
00:38:26,763 --> 00:38:28,888
I can't remember
the last name,
717
00:38:28,923 --> 00:38:30,389
but I remember Leticia.
718
00:38:31,514 --> 00:38:33,222
Pretty name.
719
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,103
Don't blame our town.
720
00:39:00,138 --> 00:39:03,395
I'm told you need
suffering to make art.
721
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:06,972
Yeah, but it's the artist
who's supposed to suffer.
722
00:39:07,007 --> 00:39:09,638
- Ah.
- You owe me a dollar.
723
00:39:09,673 --> 00:39:12,395
Yes, I do.
724
00:39:12,430 --> 00:39:15,596
Did he put up
a fight?
725
00:39:15,631 --> 00:39:19,051
Mmm, a bit, but not.
726
00:39:19,086 --> 00:39:22,437
Hey, how did he seem?
727
00:39:22,472 --> 00:39:25,395
How are things
with him and Laura?
728
00:39:25,430 --> 00:39:27,347
Seemed like he had a good
thing going down there,
729
00:39:27,382 --> 00:39:29,264
if that's
what you mean.
730
00:39:29,299 --> 00:39:31,895
Sweet girl, Laura.
731
00:39:31,930 --> 00:39:33,930
We used to joke that
she'd need a neck brace
732
00:39:33,965 --> 00:39:35,888
the way that she would
look up to him.
733
00:39:53,389 --> 00:39:56,187
- Hi.
- Hey.
734
00:39:56,222 --> 00:39:58,472
Two beers, please.
Whatever's your local best.
735
00:39:58,507 --> 00:40:00,656
She'll have
a Polygamist Porter
736
00:40:00,691 --> 00:40:02,998
and I'll have
a Diet Coke, please.
737
00:40:03,033 --> 00:40:05,305
- You guys have Advil?
- No. Sorry.
738
00:40:09,097 --> 00:40:11,270
- Thanks.
- Oh, sure.
739
00:40:11,305 --> 00:40:13,972
And thank you for your message
about Cameron's old apartment.
740
00:40:14,007 --> 00:40:15,770
There's a guy
checking on the bills
741
00:40:15,805 --> 00:40:19,389
and hoping to get something
about the old girlfriend...
742
00:40:19,424 --> 00:40:21,013
- Great.
- ...and maybe a forwarding address.
743
00:40:21,048 --> 00:40:23,593
- So, well done.
- Great.
744
00:40:23,628 --> 00:40:26,103
- Thank you.
- Thank you.
745
00:40:26,138 --> 00:40:28,645
And congratulations
to me, too, I guess.
746
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:31,312
- For?
- Being smart enough to bring you here.
747
00:40:31,347 --> 00:40:35,013
You did more in 60 minutes than
I did in three days, so thank you.
748
00:40:35,048 --> 00:40:37,638
Aw, thanks.
Just trying to help.
749
00:40:40,514 --> 00:40:42,347
- So, I, uh... I just
have a few questions,
750
00:40:42,382 --> 00:40:44,343
mostly about
the property.
751
00:40:44,378 --> 00:40:46,270
Oh, uh, one sec.
Um...
752
00:40:46,305 --> 00:40:49,680
Sorry. Wife has a question
about a house thing.
753
00:40:49,715 --> 00:40:53,222
Sha, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na.
754
00:40:53,257 --> 00:40:54,728
Uh, sorry.
755
00:40:54,763 --> 00:40:56,145
We know
the murder happened
756
00:40:56,180 --> 00:40:58,721
somewhere between
10:15 and 11:45.
757
00:40:58,756 --> 00:41:00,145
Do we know that
for sure?
758
00:41:00,180 --> 00:41:03,055
Well, Olivia was seen
leaving the party at 10:04.
759
00:41:03,090 --> 00:41:05,937
And then a guy
overhears her and Eric
760
00:41:05,972 --> 00:41:07,638
having an argument
at the studio at 10:10.
761
00:41:07,673 --> 00:41:09,305
Then she calls
her neighbor up the hill,
762
00:41:09,340 --> 00:41:12,072
and then her friend JC
at 10:16,
763
00:41:12,107 --> 00:41:14,805
the last anyone
ever heard from her.
764
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,895
Oh, sidebar...
765
00:41:16,930 --> 00:41:18,846
you know the people
up the hill, O'Connor?
766
00:41:18,881 --> 00:41:20,763
Do you know that
they own the Red Room?
767
00:41:22,347 --> 00:41:24,368
Oh, please,
please don't tell me
768
00:41:24,403 --> 00:41:26,354
you don't know
what the Red Room is.
769
00:41:26,389 --> 00:41:29,055
Is that like
a "50 Shades of Grey" thing?
770
00:41:31,721 --> 00:41:33,395
It's a private
art collection.
771
00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:35,680
Individually,
some incredible pieces.
772
00:41:35,715 --> 00:41:37,686
Overall,
no unifying aesthetic.
773
00:41:37,721 --> 00:41:41,389
They had a piece from... from it
on loan at the Denver Art Museum,
774
00:41:41,424 --> 00:41:45,222
this obscure French
Impressionist, Henri-Edmond Cross.
775
00:41:45,257 --> 00:41:46,853
When I was 12,
my mother and I sat
776
00:41:46,888 --> 00:41:48,471
in front of it
for literally six hours.
777
00:41:48,506 --> 00:41:50,020
Well, if you would've
told me they had,
778
00:41:50,055 --> 00:41:53,721
like, a Brian Bolland or a Will
Eisner or something, then...
779
00:41:53,756 --> 00:41:55,103
Don't tell me
you don't know
780
00:41:55,138 --> 00:41:57,097
who the father
of the graphic novel is.
781
00:41:57,132 --> 00:41:58,728
My interest
in American art
782
00:41:58,763 --> 00:42:00,937
ended with Hopper's
"Intermedio" in 1963.
783
00:42:00,972 --> 00:42:03,347
Well, Eisner was before,
but, you know, whatever.
784
00:42:03,382 --> 00:42:05,145
Anyhow...
785
00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:06,930
- Her wounds.
- Her wounds.
786
00:42:06,965 --> 00:42:08,728
Yes, her wounds were...
787
00:42:08,763 --> 00:42:10,346
they were from
a variety of things,
788
00:42:10,381 --> 00:42:11,930
but they believe
the death blow to be
789
00:42:11,965 --> 00:42:13,780
from multiple
hammer strikes.
790
00:42:13,815 --> 00:42:15,561
And there was
some flesh...
791
00:42:15,596 --> 00:42:17,846
piece of flesh they found
on the wall, a tiny speck,
792
00:42:17,881 --> 00:42:20,301
and in it
were bug eggs.
793
00:42:20,336 --> 00:42:22,841
Sorry. Uh, wife thing.
794
00:42:22,876 --> 00:42:25,312
- Bug eggs.
- Blowflies.
795
00:42:25,347 --> 00:42:28,264
Which puts it
no later than 11:45.
796
00:42:28,299 --> 00:42:30,103
So I'm trying
to figure out
797
00:42:30,138 --> 00:42:33,617
who was where between
10:15 and 11:45 p. m.
798
00:42:33,652 --> 00:42:37,097
Well, I can't really be
of any help on that
799
00:42:37,132 --> 00:42:39,305
because I was
at a 10:20 movie
800
00:42:39,340 --> 00:42:40,937
that was at Eastridge.
801
00:42:40,972 --> 00:42:44,701
So I left the property
about 9:45...
802
00:42:44,736 --> 00:42:48,430
or 9:46, which I weirdly remember.
803
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,638
Wow, a movie
New Year's Eve.
804
00:42:52,673 --> 00:42:53,853
Crazy.
805
00:42:53,888 --> 00:42:56,264
I know, right?
And trust me, I, uh...
806
00:42:56,299 --> 00:42:58,389
I wasn't one
to avoid a party.
807
00:42:58,424 --> 00:43:01,103
It's just
the truth is
808
00:43:01,138 --> 00:43:05,013
me and my then girlfriend, now wife,
809
00:43:05,048 --> 00:43:06,895
- had had
a little fight.
810
00:43:06,930 --> 00:43:08,638
You weren't
texting her enough?
811
00:43:08,673 --> 00:43:10,770
Sorry.
812
00:43:10,805 --> 00:43:12,846
Let me turn
this thing off.
813
00:43:15,097 --> 00:43:17,347
Uh, yeah, so.
814
00:43:18,888 --> 00:43:21,430
So, yeah, you said
that, you, uh,
815
00:43:21,465 --> 00:43:23,972
once saw Cameron
on the property
816
00:43:24,007 --> 00:43:25,561
out by the studio?
817
00:43:25,596 --> 00:43:29,180
It was actually by the,
uh, story trail, actually.
818
00:43:29,215 --> 00:43:31,180
Could you show me
exactly?
819
00:43:33,721 --> 00:43:35,187
Sure.
820
00:43:35,222 --> 00:43:36,811
Look, it's simple.
821
00:43:36,846 --> 00:43:39,680
All you do is find a way
to get him alone.
822
00:43:39,715 --> 00:43:41,430
Then you casually
bring it up
823
00:43:41,465 --> 00:43:43,680
and let him do the rest.
824
00:43:45,264 --> 00:43:47,805
Should I wear a wire?
825
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,180
Wha... no.
826
00:43:50,215 --> 00:43:51,978
Why?
827
00:43:52,013 --> 00:43:55,145
- Wha... are you joking?
- Well, I don't know.
828
00:43:55,180 --> 00:43:58,805
- Whenever this happens on "The Wire"...
- "The Wire."
829
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,603
It's called "The Wire,"
830
00:44:01,638 --> 00:44:05,222
so, yes, of course
they have wires.
831
00:44:06,972 --> 00:44:08,888
But this is Summit, man.
832
00:44:08,923 --> 00:44:10,770
We don't have wires.
833
00:44:10,805 --> 00:44:13,680
We just have
one guy says something
834
00:44:13,715 --> 00:44:16,555
and another guy
tells a third guy.
835
00:44:16,590 --> 00:44:18,260
Okay.
836
00:44:18,295 --> 00:44:19,895
Hey!
837
00:44:19,930 --> 00:44:22,354
All you need
to do is this.
838
00:44:22,389 --> 00:44:25,972
If he asks you
to stick to the story
839
00:44:26,007 --> 00:44:29,555
or to continue the lie
in any way,
840
00:44:29,590 --> 00:44:31,055
you just tell me.
841
00:44:37,264 --> 00:44:40,020
Frank,
what's the matter?
842
00:44:40,055 --> 00:44:41,721
We didn't even know
about the murder
843
00:44:41,756 --> 00:44:43,561
when we agreed to this.
844
00:44:43,596 --> 00:44:47,305
Ah. Dude,
you're not in trouble.
845
00:44:48,930 --> 00:44:50,097
Okay.
846
00:44:51,846 --> 00:44:54,283
You swear to God?
847
00:44:54,318 --> 00:44:56,721
- Yes.
- Is Joel?
848
00:44:56,756 --> 00:44:58,555
I don't know.
849
00:45:00,472 --> 00:45:01,479
Maybe not.
850
00:45:01,514 --> 00:45:03,437
Hopefully not.
Hey, hopefully not.
851
00:45:03,472 --> 00:45:06,264
Enough to get this girl
to bring him back up here.
852
00:45:06,299 --> 00:45:08,430
Doesn't mean
that he's in trouble.
853
00:45:08,465 --> 00:45:10,697
He's just... he's...
854
00:45:10,732 --> 00:45:12,895
he's of interest.
855
00:45:12,930 --> 00:45:15,805
- How the fuck did she get him
to come back anyway?
856
00:45:18,596 --> 00:45:22,222
Oh, you gotta be
freaking kidding me!
857
00:45:22,257 --> 00:45:23,514
She brought him
to the site.
858
00:45:23,549 --> 00:45:24,853
I gotta go.
859
00:45:24,888 --> 00:45:26,811
Hold on.
What do I do?
860
00:45:26,846 --> 00:45:30,055
What do you mean?
Stay, eat.
861
00:45:30,090 --> 00:45:33,264
But no acting, all right?
862
00:45:33,299 --> 00:45:35,395
Don't act, just...
863
00:45:35,430 --> 00:45:37,596
just be normal,
man, all right?
864
00:45:37,631 --> 00:45:39,520
So, her one big book...
865
00:45:39,555 --> 00:45:40,888
well, I'm sure
you read it.
866
00:45:40,923 --> 00:45:42,472
Everyone's read it.
867
00:45:42,507 --> 00:45:44,010
Mm-mm.
868
00:45:44,045 --> 00:45:45,479
No?
869
00:45:45,514 --> 00:45:47,728
"Whose Woods These Are."
870
00:45:47,763 --> 00:45:50,770
You read it one way, it's
the story of this poor hunter
871
00:45:50,805 --> 00:45:54,596
who tries to protect his family
from this evil monster bear.
872
00:45:54,631 --> 00:45:57,020
You turn it over
and read it the other way,
873
00:45:57,055 --> 00:46:00,180
it's the story of this poor
bear who tries to rescue his mom
874
00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:03,097
from the trap
of this evil monster hunter.
875
00:46:03,132 --> 00:46:06,229
- Hmm.
- Not a bad idea, right.
876
00:46:06,264 --> 00:46:09,312
- Pick a direction.
- Wherever Cameron was.
877
00:46:09,347 --> 00:46:12,389
Well, it's a circle. They
both end up at the same place.
878
00:46:13,846 --> 00:46:15,978
Good choice.
879
00:46:16,013 --> 00:46:19,472
So anyway, she'd lead these
"story walks," she'd called them...
880
00:46:19,507 --> 00:46:23,270
Cub Scouts, field trips, Girl Scouts.
881
00:46:23,305 --> 00:46:26,888
- It was like she'd never tire
of telling her one story.
882
00:46:26,923 --> 00:46:30,072
- Well, that's sweet.
- Well, I guess.
883
00:46:30,107 --> 00:46:33,187
Or she just couldn't
move on, maybe.
884
00:46:33,222 --> 00:46:36,013
Anyways, at night when I'd
just need to clear my head,
885
00:46:36,048 --> 00:46:38,479
I'd come out here
and I'd walk the property.
886
00:46:38,514 --> 00:46:41,354
So, on that night, I'm walking
along, and all of a sudden... boom...
887
00:46:41,389 --> 00:46:46,305
he and this other guy, like I just
caught them at something, right here.
888
00:46:46,340 --> 00:46:49,062
Then they just disappeared
off into the dark.
889
00:46:49,097 --> 00:46:52,222
- And so you...
- Went to the main house, which is right over here,
890
00:46:52,257 --> 00:46:53,222
and I told
your brother.
891
00:46:54,222 --> 00:46:55,596
Where'd you live?
892
00:46:57,638 --> 00:47:00,937
In the barn.
893
00:47:00,972 --> 00:47:02,972
I was there with
all the other strays.
894
00:47:03,007 --> 00:47:04,972
She was always
picking up strays...
895
00:47:05,007 --> 00:47:07,222
cats, dogs, people.
896
00:47:08,264 --> 00:47:09,479
You lived in a barn?
897
00:47:09,514 --> 00:47:12,347
Well, I grew up on a farm.
898
00:47:12,382 --> 00:47:13,479
She had horses.
899
00:47:13,514 --> 00:47:15,479
Seemed like
a good idea.
900
00:47:15,514 --> 00:47:18,868
And then the reality was I was
just a guy living in a barn.
901
00:47:18,903 --> 00:47:22,222
Not the idea you had when
you first got here, I assume.
902
00:47:22,257 --> 00:47:23,823
It's a long story.
903
00:47:23,858 --> 00:47:25,354
You ever meet her?
904
00:47:25,389 --> 00:47:29,430
Once,
at Thanksgiving.
905
00:47:29,465 --> 00:47:30,888
Not so fun?
906
00:47:32,721 --> 00:47:34,686
It was an attempt.
907
00:47:34,721 --> 00:47:37,389
But I can tell
there is no chance
908
00:47:37,424 --> 00:47:39,763
this Dennis Klein guy
909
00:47:39,798 --> 00:47:40,853
is legit.
910
00:47:40,888 --> 00:47:42,145
One thing we know
911
00:47:42,180 --> 00:47:44,763
is what a scam artist
looks like.
912
00:47:44,798 --> 00:47:47,062
Am I right?
So, I'm like...
913
00:47:47,097 --> 00:47:49,389
He says, "If I'm not
absolutely right,
914
00:47:49,424 --> 00:47:51,055
you have to buy me
a drink."
915
00:47:51,090 --> 00:47:53,638
And whammo, to a tee.
916
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:57,805
So, then he starts
telling me why he's here.
917
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:59,645
Why was Eric here?
918
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,326
Wanted to change his life, didn't
want to be the Grim Reaper...
919
00:48:02,361 --> 00:48:04,972
Actually, hon, I feel like I'm
monopolizing this whole thing.
920
00:48:05,007 --> 00:48:07,895
Petra,
what do you do?
921
00:48:07,930 --> 00:48:09,561
- She is...
- I do many things.
922
00:48:09,596 --> 00:48:12,264
- ...major into the art world.
- Peripherally.
923
00:48:12,299 --> 00:48:14,145
She restores art,
924
00:48:14,180 --> 00:48:15,472
she teaches,
she writes books.
925
00:48:15,507 --> 00:48:17,020
About?
926
00:48:17,055 --> 00:48:19,645
She got 600 pages
927
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,638
into one about
the Italian Divisionists...
928
00:48:22,673 --> 00:48:24,479
see, I read
your e-mails...
929
00:48:24,514 --> 00:48:26,243
and then she's like,
"Wait a minute,
930
00:48:26,278 --> 00:48:27,875
maybe those critics
back at the"...
931
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:29,357
- whatever they're called...
- Salons.
932
00:48:29,392 --> 00:48:30,828
"The ones who trashed
the Divisionists
933
00:48:30,863 --> 00:48:32,229
back in the day,
maybe they were right."
934
00:48:32,264 --> 00:48:34,222
And she throws her book
away and starts again.
935
00:48:34,257 --> 00:48:36,229
Well, they were
right, right?
936
00:48:36,264 --> 00:48:39,264
I mean, when was that?
Like, 1894?
937
00:48:39,299 --> 00:48:40,645
- '96.
- '96.
938
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,437
Well, they were spot-on.
939
00:48:42,472 --> 00:48:46,013
Well, my beef was the
overt social overtones...
940
00:48:46,048 --> 00:48:47,270
Oh, I get your beef.
941
00:48:47,305 --> 00:48:48,784
I'm totally with you.
I get it.
942
00:48:48,819 --> 00:48:50,666
I mean,
the powerful are corrupt.
943
00:48:50,701 --> 00:48:52,479
Art is needed
by the disinherited.
944
00:48:52,514 --> 00:48:55,180
I mean, if I want a message,
send me a fucking telegram.
945
00:48:55,215 --> 00:48:57,510
Yeah, Olivia,
1943 just called.
946
00:48:57,545 --> 00:48:59,770
They'd like
their once topical
947
00:48:59,805 --> 00:49:01,555
"send me a telegram"
reference back.
948
00:49:01,590 --> 00:49:03,978
Hello, JC.
949
00:49:04,013 --> 00:49:06,187
Hello, 2007 called,
950
00:49:06,222 --> 00:49:09,389
and they want their
fill-in-the-blank call joke back.
951
00:49:12,264 --> 00:49:13,479
It's all overrated...
952
00:49:13,514 --> 00:49:15,312
the neos,
the pointillists.
953
00:49:15,347 --> 00:49:18,596
Really? You don't think
understanding the science
954
00:49:18,631 --> 00:49:20,180
of how the eye
perceives light is...
955
00:49:20,215 --> 00:49:22,389
Has nothing
to do with art.
956
00:49:22,424 --> 00:49:23,561
I mean, come on.
957
00:49:23,596 --> 00:49:26,409
Yeah, can we measure
human emotions
958
00:49:26,444 --> 00:49:30,458
through the chemical,
the synaptical,
959
00:49:30,493 --> 00:49:34,472
the sciency-wiency...
whatever... events?
960
00:49:34,507 --> 00:49:35,853
Sure.
961
00:49:35,888 --> 00:49:38,020
But at the core of it,
962
00:49:38,055 --> 00:49:41,763
end of day,
you have to feel it.
963
00:49:41,798 --> 00:49:44,645
You can't think art...
964
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,909
...teach art,
write about it.
965
00:49:46,944 --> 00:49:49,103
Um, didn't
we just establish
966
00:49:49,138 --> 00:49:51,638
she thinks, teaches,
and writes about art?
967
00:49:53,972 --> 00:49:58,013
The most beautiful
piece of art I've ever seen
968
00:49:58,048 --> 00:50:02,055
was drawn by an 11-year-old
girl in 15 minutes.
969
00:50:02,090 --> 00:50:03,937
It... it's no technique.
970
00:50:03,972 --> 00:50:07,430
But it was raw,
it was pure.
971
00:50:08,930 --> 00:50:10,937
Of course,
it was about me,
972
00:50:10,972 --> 00:50:13,846
so, maybe I'm exaggerating
a little bit.
973
00:50:13,881 --> 00:50:16,555
Just eat your pie.
Sorry.
974
00:52:26,055 --> 00:52:27,180
But there's
nothing else, is there?
975
00:52:27,215 --> 00:52:27,972
Nothing else what?
976
00:52:28,180 --> 00:52:29,555
That I need to know about y'all.
977
00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:31,055
No.
978
00:52:33,013 --> 00:52:36,222
You sure?!
Okay.
979
00:52:37,347 --> 00:52:39,451
I told them the truth
about that night.
980
00:52:39,486 --> 00:52:41,520
Why did he lie
about who he was with?
981
00:52:41,555 --> 00:52:43,763
I admitted to you that
I shouldn't have done it.
982
00:52:43,798 --> 00:52:44,555
They found a body.
983
00:52:44,930 --> 00:52:47,763
You lied, you lied to a friend
who's also a cop.
984
00:52:48,305 --> 00:52:50,389
Why the fuck would you
come back here?
985
00:52:50,424 --> 00:52:51,805
Don't you talk to me that way!
986
00:52:52,305 --> 00:52:53,389
It's not an investigation.
987
00:52:53,555 --> 00:52:56,555
It's just two curious people
asking questions.
73594
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