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The more we know about her,
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the more chance we have
of working out how she died.
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When she was 15,
she was abducted by a cult.
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I never had any experience
of Precious being violent.
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The aggression came entirely
from Ebele.
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We have multiple arrests.
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An ABH charge, with a firearm.
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- What was the name of your cover, please?
- That was Karol Wojski.
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- If we want a baby, we'll need a bigger place.
- Karol...
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Am I not good enough?
Is that what it is?
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He's the last person
to have seen her alive.
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And the day after he did,
he resigned.
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How would you feel about
a trip to Paris, where he lives?
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Hello, love.
I think I'm miscarrying.
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So, the relative who used to pop
round to check up on her,
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that's Lord Anthony.
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- They were very threatening.
- Physically? - Yes.
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- What did they say the squatters were like?
- Sweet.
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You don't know me, but I know you.
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My mother was Precious Falade,
and I was there that night.
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And I saw it all.
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'All We Do' by Oh Wonder
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♪ All we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is
All we do is hide away
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♪ All we do is lie in wait
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♪ All we do is
All we do is lie in wait
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♪ I've been upside down
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♪ I don't want to be
The right way round
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♪ Can't find paradise
On the ground. ♪
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Hi, babe, it's me. Obviously, erm...
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..spoke to your mum
when you were asleep.
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Be good to talk. Er...
Call me when you feel up to it.
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Er... Back tonight. Lots of love.
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Get your shit together.
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I'm sure it's nothing serious,
just a bad cold,
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but these days you never know,
do you? So...
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But as per our discussion,
we've got a million new menu ideas.
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So she or I will call you,
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and hopefully we can reschedule
maybe for early next week?
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Thanks a lot.
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You said you'd find things.
You said you'd research stuff.
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I said I'd do some digging,
and I have, but the reality is...
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- Do you want more money?
- 'It's not about the money.'
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'It's always about the money.'
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I'm sorry
if I've given you false hope,
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but perhaps I should've...
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So, the firearm
detailed in the original log
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was actually an air pistol.
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- Ebele's?
- No, a flatmate's that she'd borrowed,
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according to her statement.
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Er, apparently, she'd been drinking
all afternoon with friends,
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and it was a "prank",
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"a spur of the moment dare
to hold up a bank".
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I thought it was a stockbrokers?
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Yeah, it was,
a company called Morgan Lavelle.
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As I say, she was very drunk.
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Why did she already
have the airgun with her
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if it was an off-the-cuff dare?
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- Yep.
- OK. What did she get?
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- 12 months bender.
- Right.
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- Low.
- Yeah, and then at the trial,
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the doorman that she'd threatened,
a guy called, er...
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Christopher Blackwood.
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So, he ended up
backing up her version of events,
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and he said that she told him
it was a dare
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after just a few seconds
of waving the gun around,
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and that later,
he saw her mates giggling outside.
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So, why'd he call the police?
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He said he called them
before she revealed it was a prank.
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- In those few seconds?
- Yeah, me neither.
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OK, well, let's see if we can
speak to him, the doorman.
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I should also say that forensics
have found
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what we hope is our bullet
at the scene last night,
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so that's headed to ballistics
as we speak.
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So, we did find a bank account
for a woman
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with the same name and DOB,
and her last transaction, ever,
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was a debit card payment
to an off-licence
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on the 26th of June
at 17:43 that evening.
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Was that...
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Was that not also the same date
the social worker visited her?
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I think it was.
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Yeah, that morning.
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OK. Good. Like that.
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Er, what about her bank activity?
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Very regular, for many years.
She used her card most days.
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OK, so it stopping being like that,
then, that's significant.
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Absolutely.
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And anything interesting
in her bank statements?
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Couple of things.
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She survived mostly on benefits,
but there were also cash payments,
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deposited, I presume,
by her at pretty regular intervals.
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OK. What sorts of amounts?
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Three, four hundred quid,
give or take.
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- How often?
- About half a dozen times a year.
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Started in 2010,
stopped after the 26th.
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Could it have been money from her sex work?
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A meth habit doesn't generally go
hand-in-hand with fiscal prudence.
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No.
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Er, and the other thing?
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Yeah, a standing order,
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which was only set up seven months
before she died.
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That's for £200,
to be paid on the 1st of each month.
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- From?
- It just says "DSH" on the statements.
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I've no idea what that means.
I'm investigating.
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OK. And her mobile?
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Couldn't find any contracts.
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If she did have a phone,
it must have been a pay-as-you-go.
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- Kaz and I are looking into that.
- OK, great. Thank you.
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Er, Frances.
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Yeah, so I put a flag on PNC
for Joseph Bell,
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and I actually got a ping
first thing this morning.
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He was arrested, apparently,
in Essex, yesterday.
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- For?
- ABH, among other things.
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No bail.
Er, he's being held on remand.
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OK. Find out where, and see if
we can speak to him, ASAP, please.
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- Sure.
- OK. Thanks, all.
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- Where's DI Khan, Guv?
- Paris.
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Interviewing the social worker.
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Back tonight.
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I don't know if you remember me,
but we met three years ago
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when you managed to get me
a work permit.
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Er, I was hoping to repay
the favour.
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I've got some goods I thought
you might be interested in.
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Some watches, premium watches.
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Er, eight, Bretq,
worth about 80K if you were to...
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Maybe half of that, maybe 40?
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Yeah, I can...
I can see you tonight.
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Erm, are you still in the same...?
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Yeah, I'll be there.
I'll see you then.
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Yes, that's Precious.
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Your client.
Yes.
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My God, what a dreadful thing.
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What a tragic waste of a life.
Yeah.
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So, was it drugs?
No.
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What, then?
We think she was murdered.
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Jesus. By who?
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Well, that's why I'm here,
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to get as much information as
possible about her last movements.
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Right.
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And what do you want to know?
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Hiya.
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If you've come for contrition,
you'll wait a long time.
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No, I don't need that.
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I just thought you might wanna know
a lawyer in London called for you.
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Wants you to call him back ASAP.
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Why does a lawyer
wanna speak to you, love?
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And how can we even afford
a London lawyer?
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Her life was chaotic,
as it often is with addicts,
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so she was hard to help.
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Was she using
when you were working with her?
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Yes.
Did she ever deal as well?
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Not to my knowledge.
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Did she ever mention any trouble
with her dealers?
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Not that she ever told me about.
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And where was she living
when you first engaged with her?
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Temporary hostels, which she kept
getting chucked out of.
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For...?
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She had issues with
her universal credit not being paid,
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she was stealing
from other residents,
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ongoing drug issues.
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And, er, did she work
in the sex trade
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at any stage that you knew her?
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She said not.
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But I know her son
wanted her to get back to it.
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I mean, he was always short of money
himself,
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so maybe he persuaded her.
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He was down in London
when you were working with her?
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On and off.
Did you actually see him?
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A couple of times, yeah,
when he was kipping on her floor.
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And what was her relationship
with him like?
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Troubled. Erm...
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He stole from her
because of his own habit.
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She also told me
that he was violent towards her.
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And what's her relationship like
with her mother?
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Pretty similar.
The trauma ran down the generations.
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Again, all fairly common
in families with addiction issues.
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And how did you try to help?
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My primary focus was to get her
stable accommodation
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and a drug rehabilitation programme.
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Did you succeed in either?
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No.
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Because...?
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Look, people like Precious,
for many complicated reasons,
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often sabotage their own help.
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So things can go wrong many times
before they go right,
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which all costs money.
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Sadly, "Let's raise taxes
and give it to addicts"
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doesn't easily fit
on the side of a bus,
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so, yes, we failed.
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Because... money.
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Erm, OK. That's the girls' father.
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He's come to pick them up.
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We're in the middle
of a custody dispute.
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What the fuck...?!
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So, she's in and out
of temporary hostels,
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and then in late June 2016,
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she asks you to come to see her
in a big house in Hammersmith?
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Yeah.
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Did she mention whose house it was,
or how come she was there?
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She said it was a squat.
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Did she mention anyone
by the name of Tony Hume?
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No.
And how was she?
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Fine.
Completely normal meeting?
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Yeah.
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She didn't mention anything about
any rows,
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or anything to do with her family,
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or anyone that made you think
that she might be in danger? No.
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Because we have reason to believe
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that Precious died very soon
after your last meeting.
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Almost certainly in that house,
in fact.
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So, is there anything that
you can tell us
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that would help us with that?
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No. Sorry.
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So, this was both the last meeting
you had with her, er...
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but also, as I understand it,
possibly the last with anyone.
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You resigned the day after.
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I don't recall the exact date.
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You resigned on...
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..the 27th.
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Right.
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Are the two events connected at all?
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No.
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It just seems like
a bit of a coincidence.
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Does it?
Well...
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She's murdered, you resigned.
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But I didn't know she was dead.
Obviously.
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Hm. So, what was the reason, then?
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I didn't like the job.
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What, that job specifically,
or social work generally?
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Both.
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I was exhausted and demoralised.
We all were.
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So, just one more time, then. Er...
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Nothing happened in that house,
no arguments of any kind? No.
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No issues, disputes,
problems between the two of you,
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that you think
that we should know about?
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No.
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OK, thanks for your time.
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What are you talking about?
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I was looking after him yesterday.
Of course I'm his brief.
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Your name's not on the list.
Maybe you've been replaced.
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Replaced by who?
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And so, in conclusion,
Your Worships,
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we would like to stress again
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that our client has literally
no history of absconding,
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that he has a vulnerable partner
with multiple health issues -
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who he is deeply committed
to looking after -
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and lastly,
that we would be happy to offer
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a surety of £10,000.
249
00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,840
Yeah, I want to find out
about his departure
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from West London Social Services.
251
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To my sense, there's more there
than he's admitting to.
252
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- OK.
- And also, according to him,
253
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both the mother and the son
were violent towards Precious.
254
00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,400
'Yeah. Although he would say that
255
00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,920
- 'if he was trying to cover up his own tracks.'
- Yeah.
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00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,840
OK, but let's trawl through
his contemporaneous notes
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- and see what they say.
- 'Yeah.'
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It'd be good to, erm...
maybe find half an hour...
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..to sit down together and, er...
260
00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,200
Sorry.
What time are we at Earlmarsh?
261
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- Three thirty.
- 'See you then. Bye.'
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00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:56,560
Tony?
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00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,280
Ah! Mehdi. How are you?
264
00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,960
Yeah, good. Listen, erm...
265
00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,640
I just wanted to let you know,
266
00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:04,600
I had a look at
your grant application.
267
00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:06,640
It's gonna have to be a no,
I'm afraid.
268
00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,520
Oh? Yeah, budgets are so squeezed,
for obvious reasons.
269
00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:12,680
We just need to prioritise
the more unique applications.
270
00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,200
"Unique"? What does that mean?
271
00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,600
Well, there wasn't a lot of detail
in there, Tony.
272
00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:21,040
You know, for a 100K grant,
it all felt a little peremptory.
273
00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,600
I thought we had a shorthand.
Right.
274
00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,120
It's getting harder for it
to keep working like that, though.
275
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,720
Worked like that
when I got you into the DOT.
276
00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:34,240
When your son needed
an introduction to Warburgs.
277
00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:36,640
It worked like that then, Mehdi,
didn't it?
278
00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,160
Ah, well. There it is. Sorry again.
279
00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,320
D'you know what they call you,
Mehdi?
280
00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,440
Behind your back, your department?
281
00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,640
"Mehdi-ocrity". Never a truer word.
282
00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,440
Do you know
what they call you, Tony? Hm?
283
00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,960
Nothing.
284
00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,800
No-one cares.
285
00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,120
- I'm so sorry, Joseph.
- J.
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00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:37,600
J.
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00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:40,480
I ain't seen her in years, man,
so I don't give a fuck.
288
00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,400
Your mum?
289
00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,840
So, when was the last time
you saw her?
290
00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,480
Ten years.
291
00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,840
Got away from her
as soon as I could, innit?
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00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:51,320
Bad influence.
293
00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,720
Because her social worker
details you living
294
00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,440
between London and Wales in 2016,
295
00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,760
and seeing your mum occasionally
during that period.
296
00:17:58,800 --> 00:17:59,840
Not true.
297
00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:03,560
Well, he also details seeing you
298
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,520
at a hostel she was staying at,
in Acton.
299
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,560
And also has her describing a row
between you and her,
300
00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,960
in which you got violent.
301
00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,360
Didn't happen.
302
00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:15,480
Must have mistaken me
for someone else.
303
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,880
And as for violence,
well, my mum was chattin' shit.
304
00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,360
Why would she have lied?
My mum would have said anything
305
00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,960
if she thought it was
gonna get her something.
306
00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:26,840
Probably wanted to get into a refuge
or something.
307
00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,760
You think?
I do.
308
00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,440
So, did you never wonder where
she'd been the last six years?
309
00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,320
I assumed she'd gone to Wales.
To the farm?
310
00:18:36,360 --> 00:18:38,120
But, listen...
311
00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840
if you're looking for someone
who did used to hurt her,
312
00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,760
then speak to David Bell.
313
00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,080
That don bust her up
fuckin' hundreds of times.
314
00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:46,600
This was the man who ran the cult?
315
00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:48,160
Yeah, proper nasty.
316
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,120
You actually saw him
be violent towards her?
317
00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,840
Yeah, lots of times, man.
318
00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:56,760
I mean, she always left, but...
319
00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,400
then somehow, for some reason,
she always went back.
320
00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,120
And when you say violent...
321
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,440
Physical...
322
00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:04,840
sexual...
323
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,440
In here, man.
324
00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,080
Treated her like a dog.
325
00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,240
Worse than a dog, like...
like he owned her or something.
326
00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,200
How long were you there?
327
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,920
On and off from when I was about
seven to when I was about 15.
328
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,840
And what was your relationship
with him like,
329
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,040
this man whose surname you shared?
330
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,080
Was he ever violent towards you?
331
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,120
He did everything to me, man.
332
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,840
Did you ever report anything?
To who?
333
00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,680
We were 20 miles
from the nearest town.
334
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,120
We weren't allowed mobiles,
there was no internet.
335
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,760
Maybe that's why she was the way
she was with me, you know,
336
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,280
cos of what he did to her.
337
00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,080
But, yeah...
338
00:19:57,240 --> 00:19:59,640
..if you're looking for a killer...
339
00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,640
speak to that fucking prick.
340
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,200
Hey.
341
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,400
Serge just called me.
What the hell is going on, Kaz?
342
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,080
Love, I'm sorting it out,
don't worry.
343
00:20:16,120 --> 00:20:17,240
'You're sorting what out?'
344
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,520
He said you were being interviewed
by British police.
345
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,960
It's fine. I'll call you later.
I promise you, it'll be fine.
346
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,520
Karol?
347
00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,320
- Bonjour.
- Bonjour.
348
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,840
'So, I'm sorry,
but not only is our obsession
349
00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,640
'with balancing the books
economically illiterate,
350
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:39,360
'and not only is it morally wrong
351
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,840
'to cut funding for the vulnerable,
sick and needy,
352
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,680
'the absolute worst
part of austerity
353
00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,840
'is that it doesn't even work!
354
00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,680
'It turns out
we are making ourselves poorer
355
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,560
'as a nation, and that...'
356
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:10,040
- So, what did you think?
- His family lie very well.
357
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:17,960
So I need to know more about him.
Anything and everything we can find.
358
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,560
Guv.
Hi there.
359
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,000
Just coming to pick up my client.
360
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,800
He's being released on bail.
361
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:27,960
Should all be in order.
362
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,200
He had a number
of mental health issues,
363
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,840
- the year or so before he left.
- What sort of issues?
364
00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,080
Er, anxiety, depression,
365
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:38,480
a degree of agoraphobia, I think.
366
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,640
- Brought on by anything specific?
- Yeah.
367
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,960
Two assaults. One 2015, one '16.
368
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,960
Er, racially-motivated assaults.
369
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,600
Because he was Polish?
370
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,160
Because he was Jewish.
371
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,760
His nationality
was probably just a bonus.
372
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,600
- OK. Where did these happen?
- First one, late 2015,
373
00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,040
just walking down the street
wearing his kippa.
374
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,200
And the second one was outside
a synagogue in February 2016.
375
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,480
Did he report any of these
to the police?
376
00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:09,200
The first one, yeah,
but nothing happened.
377
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,160
So he didn't bother with the second.
378
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,040
And you think this is what might
have precipitated his problems?
379
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:21,520
Well, his parents moved back
to Poland for a time at that point,
380
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,960
and he was living by himself.
381
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,960
I just think he felt a bit isolated.
382
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:27,600
Bit lonely.
383
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,720
And you think this is what
ultimately led him to resign?
384
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,440
Nothing I'm about to tell you
is anything other than rumour, OK?
385
00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,720
So if you want any kind of detail,
you'll have to speak to HR.
386
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:46,920
OK.
387
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,640
And I qualify all of this
with the fact that the Karol I met
388
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680
when he first came here
was a lovely,
389
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,760
kind, respectful, gentle man.
390
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,760
There was a rumour that he left
391
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,880
because of some inappropriate photos
he took of a colleague.
392
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,240
On a stairwell.
393
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,280
Up-skirting?
394
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,680
Up-skirting.
395
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,200
We're just looking for more
background information on him,
396
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,480
and we have you down
as his probation officer, so...
397
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,160
Yeah.
398
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,240
Yeah, ten o'clock tomorrow,
that'd be perfect.
399
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,880
I'll send a Zoom link.
OK, thanks, bye.
400
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,000
- Hey, Guv.
- Yep.
401
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,440
Got the result of the C&C trawl
on 64 Waterman Road,
402
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,600
but we can do it tomorrow
if it's too late now.
403
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,040
No, no, no. Go for it, go for it.
404
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,040
So, there's one incident
in our timeframe.
405
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,520
It was on the 14th of June.
406
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,280
The call to the local nick
from a resident of 23 Waterman
407
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,960
about a "violent row"
outside 64 between two women.
408
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,040
The neighbour describes hearing
one woman tell the other to,
409
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,200
"Fuck off, Mum."
410
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:58,680
So...
411
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,840
..just 12 days
before Precious's possible death,
412
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,040
and despite Ebele telling us
413
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,960
she hadn't seen her
since her birthday on January 15th,
414
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,520
here is Ebele in contact with her.
415
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,640
Did a car get up there?
416
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,360
It did,
but it had quietened down by then,
417
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,400
so no further action was taken.
418
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,680
So...
419
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,760
We have her shoplifting arrest
on the 5th,
420
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,480
where she gave
the Waterman Road address.
421
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,360
And then this incident
on the... 14th?
422
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:32,520
Yep.
423
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,520
And then the social worker's visit
on the 26th.
424
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,080
So that's nearly three weeks where
she's living there in some capacity,
425
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:43,560
despite the house having been made
secure at least a month previously.
426
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,280
So, how did she get in and out?
427
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,320
Had she broken in?
428
00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:53,880
Stolen a set of keys?
429
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,960
OK, see if you can track down
the attending officers.
430
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,160
- Thanks, Murray. It's great work.
- Guv.
431
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:06,200
We're just trying to get
432
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,680
as much background on Joseph Bell
as possible,
433
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,000
so I'll send you the link
434
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,400
and look forward
to speaking to you then.
435
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,840
- 'OK, thanks.' OK.
- Bye now.
436
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,840
And I'm not remotely...
pissed off with you.
437
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,080
How could I be?
438
00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:36,360
You've never been anything other
than completely honest about kids.
439
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:40,880
Sorry.
440
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,400
So there's no blame.
441
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:47,960
About that, anyway.
442
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,320
But that doesn't stop me
from feeling sad.
443
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,400
Very sad, in fact.
444
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,560
Sorry.
445
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,080
Obviously, you've got nothing
to apologise for.
446
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,920
When you say,
"No blame about that anyway"...
447
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,680
Well, maybe you're not to blame
for that either, because...
448
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,760
Y'know, that's grief, isn't it?
449
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,680
And I should say
I slightly feel like
450
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,440
I'm not allowed to find it hard,
or complain about it,
451
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,920
or anything, really.
452
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,400
But it is hard, Sunny.
453
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,840
To feel so... excluded.
454
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:33,760
So shut out.
455
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,800
And it's hard to feel jealous
of a dead woman.
456
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,760
But I do.
457
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,160
Because, huh, here we are,
nine months on,
458
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,440
with no hint of a wedding in sight.
459
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,040
No discussions, even.
460
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,480
And I keep thinking
you'll bring it up,
461
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:03,000
cos I'm sure as hell not going to.
462
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:05,920
But you don't.
463
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,440
And even as I'm saying this,
464
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,760
I'm slightly hoping that
you'll jump in and say,
465
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,840
"I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
It's all OK. Let's set a date."
466
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,280
But you don't.
467
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,320
And I'm scared I know why...
468
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,080
Take it.
No.
469
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,080
Take it, it's fine.
470
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,080
Give me ten seconds.
471
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:48,400
Fran.
472
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,040
- Hey. How you doing?
- Yeah...
473
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,680
Er, hang on.
I'm east, boss man. The docks.
474
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,360
We just need to go over
some paperwork.
475
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,520
Nah, nah. I need to get back
to my girlfriend, bruv.
476
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,480
That's the only fucking reason
I called him.
477
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,840
It'll take half an hour, I promise,
and then I'll get you a car home.
478
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,120
For what it's worth,
it was just once.
479
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,040
And I know nothing I can say will...
480
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,680
ever allow you to forgive me
for that, nor should it,
481
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,560
but I am more sorry
than I'll ever be able to say.
482
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,720
My fucking sister.
483
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,680
Literally.
484
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,960
Do you wanna tell me why?
485
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,360
I was lonely.
486
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,400
He said he was, too,
and that you and he were finished.
487
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,880
When was this?
488
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,800
Three months ago.
489
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,880
You were on a course.
490
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:17,160
- I'd babysat the kids.
- It was in our house?!
491
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,240
I'm so sorry.
492
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,720
Just...
493
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,800
Go. Just leave. Please.
494
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,360
D'you know what, Debbie?
495
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,400
If you weren't such a weak...
496
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:41,360
..person, if you had...
497
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,800
even an ounce of backbone,
you wouldn't have told me.
498
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,680
You'd have kept your shame
to yourself.
499
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,480
Hey.
500
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,000
I'm really sorry, I'm on a pick-up
down in Fontainebleau.
501
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,760
Thanks for the heads up, though.
Appreciate it, brother. Speak soon.
502
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,600
'Veuillez
laisser un message apres le bip.'
503
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:17,960
Hey, it's me.
504
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,840
Listen, I'm gonna come back,
see if I can get this sorted out.
505
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,440
I'll be about half an hour.
Call me to let me know you got this.
506
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,720
Please.
507
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,760
Joseph.
508
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:13,880
Tony Hume.
509
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,760
Why have you brought me here, man?
510
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,920
That wasn't the deal. Why am I here?
511
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,440
Please. Sit down.
512
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,800
Shit!
513
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,320
So, all I want to know,
really, Joseph is...
514
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,160
..what you meant.
515
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,040
What I said.
OK.
516
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:08,280
And what you said, as I recall,
517
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,120
is that your mother
was Precious Falade,
518
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,400
and you were there that night.
519
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,080
You saw it all.
Yeah.
520
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:18,840
You were where?
521
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:29,160
A don like you must be so used to
being able to control things, innit?
522
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,720
Being able to influence
523
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,120
and manipulate everything
around you, yeah?
524
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,160
Whereas me...
525
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,560
I've had almost no control
in my life.
526
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,520
Almost no power, innit?
527
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,200
I've had to take whatever life
threw at me, bruv.
528
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,400
Had to learn how to adapt.
529
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,280
Very fucking fast,
often to the next random event.
530
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,600
And it's funny,
cos I've been so scared of you
531
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,520
since that
very fucking random night.
532
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,720
So scared of what you could do to me
if I told people what I knew.
533
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,360
Except now
I'm in the room with you...
534
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,200
and I see it's you who's scared.
535
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,680
I don't blame you, as it goes.
536
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,400
Cos you got a lot to lose, man.
537
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,080
Who are you really, Joseph?
538
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,720
What do you want?
Who am I?
539
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,600
I'm me, man.
540
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,440
And what I want...
541
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,080
is this.
542
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,520
Kids,
bedtime. Come on. Brush your teeth.
543
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,720
Did you forget
I was going out tonight?
544
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:12,880
Shit, erm...
545
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,640
I'm sorry, yeah. Yeah.
546
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,200
Pyjamas are on the bed.
You're all good to go.
547
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,040
OK, thanks. Thanks.
548
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,920
Are you OK?
549
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,960
- She hasn't told you, has she?
- Who?
550
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,880
Debbie.
551
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,480
Told me what?
552
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,000
Gran, we're ready!
553
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,720
Grab a glass of wine.
I'll be back down in ten.
554
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,480
I'll shift my plans for tonight.
555
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,360
Thanks, Mum.
556
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,640
I'm back for a bit now,
so you're all right, Jordan.
557
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:49,800
Safe.
558
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,640
I missed you.
559
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:16,480
I missed you too.
560
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,520
I just needed someone
to look after me.
561
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,200
I know, but like I said,
I'm here now, babe.
562
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,200
Yeah.
563
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,040
I can't forgive her, Mum.
564
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,280
We can't forgive her for this.
You do understand that, don't you?
565
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Your sister's not well, Jess.
You know that.
566
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,080
Please. You can't always excuse
her behaviour
567
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,880
because of anxiety or depression.
568
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,440
I'm anxious.
569
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,000
I'm depressed.
I don't go round behaving like that.
570
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,880
I don't think
I ever want to speak to her again.
571
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,080
And I don't think
you should want to either.
572
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,760
No DCI James?
Sorry.
573
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,680
'We tried to give her
all the support we could.
574
00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:40,360
'When Joseph was about
18 months old,
575
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,600
'it was clear
she wasn't caring for him properly,
576
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,440
'and he was taken in to care.'
577
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,280
'He'd often came in to nursery
578
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,880
'hungry, in dirty clothes,
often soiled.'
579
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,080
She'd have punters
coming in her house all day long.
580
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,760
I'd see him through the window,
581
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,280
sitting in front of the TV all day,
on his own.
582
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,680
I mean, I did phone social services
several times,
583
00:38:59,720 --> 00:39:01,920
but I'm not sure
if anyone ever came.
584
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,320
' "Oh, Miss, I fell."
585
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:07,680
' "Oh, Miss, a friend accidentally
kicked me playing football."
586
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:10,320
' "Oh, Miss,
I spilt a cup of tea on it." '
587
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,440
When Joseph arrived late at night,
gone ten, on his own,
588
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,080
in the back of a taxi
589
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,960
because cuts had meant there was
no social worker to accompany him,
590
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,120
he was 13 years old.
591
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,000
I showed him his room,
and he couldn't believe it
592
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,280
because it was clean
and the bed had a duvet on it.
593
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:34,160
He stayed with us for nine months,
and we applied for adoption...
594
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,520
er, but his mother blocked it
595
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,520
and eventually got him back
in the end.
596
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,760
Mainly for the child benefit,
I suspect.
597
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,680
It was one of the saddest days
of my life, having to let him go.
598
00:39:43,720 --> 00:39:46,520
'Young Mr Bell was 17
when he arrived with us,
599
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,280
'but old for his years, y'know?
600
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,440
'Wily. Devious, even.
601
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,960
'Never reluctant to use violence
to get what he wanted.
602
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,520
'Could he kill?'
603
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:57,680
'I've no doubt.'
604
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,520
- DCI James?
- DI Khan. Sorry, hello.
605
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,400
- What happened? Where were you?
- Where was I?
606
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,160
The Zoom calls about Joseph Bell.
607
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,360
Damn it.
608
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:24,920
I, erm... had some, erm...
609
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,320
Look, I'm...
I'm really... I'm really sorry.
610
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,200
Can we just, erm...
duck in here for a moment?
611
00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:32,840
Yeah.
612
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,680
I can't work like this.
613
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,720
Next to you but not with you.
614
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,400
I sat in this room earlier
615
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,360
and listened to various people
talking about Joseph Bell,
616
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,440
and it was illuminating
and heart-breaking,
617
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,200
and it gave me...
618
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,600
..all sorts of insights
and new ideas,
619
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,280
and you-you missed it all.
620
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:23,040
Now, I've recorded it,
and I'll send you the links,
621
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,040
but it's not the same thing, is it?
622
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,240
Because we need to be in the room
together.
623
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,920
We need to talk.
624
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,080
In your office,
in the canteen, the pub.
625
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:35,120
We need to come up with
a thousand stupid theories
626
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,280
and laugh at them
and come up with better ones.
627
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,080
Because it's only by doing that,
surely,
628
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,160
that we'll get to understand
the people sitting opposite us.
629
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,080
I can't be her, DI Khan.
630
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520
I'm not asking you to be.
631
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,720
All I'm saying is,
there's a barrier between us,
632
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,240
and I would love it
633
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,480
if we could find a way
of getting rid of it,
634
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:07,240
even if it's just for this case
and then we go our separate ways.
635
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,200
And maybe it is my fault.
636
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:15,440
Apologies if it is.
637
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,480
I'm dealing with some
personal issues that, er...
638
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,280
Well, I'm not exactly
at the top of my game,
639
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,880
but I would love it
if we could reset.
640
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,640
If we could just start again.
641
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,760
- Please.
- What issues?
642
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,280
Yesterday... my fiancee...
643
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,160
..had a miscarriage of a baby
I didn't really want.
644
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,680
I am so sorry.
645
00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:59,880
Thanks.
Yeah, it was very early, but still.
646
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,880
It's complicated.
647
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:16,720
54 minutes before I started
the job last week, my...
648
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,240
Excuse me.
649
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:20,920
..my husband, erm...
650
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,560
..my husband told me he'd been...
651
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:27,600
..he'd been having an affair.
652
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,560
And, er...
653
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,080
Last night...
654
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,000
Last night, I discovered
it was with my sister.
655
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,640
OK, you win.
656
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,800
I'm really sorry, too.
657
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,920
I mean, that's... that's awful.
658
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,440
- Is there anything I can do?
- Er, thanks.
659
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,200
Er, probably not.
660
00:44:02,240 --> 00:44:04,920
But, erm... thank you.
661
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:06,880
And, er...
662
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,120
Er, we've...
663
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:14,520
..got a result on the bullet.
664
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,120
What result?
665
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,400
It has the same striation marks
as a bullet fired
666
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,360
in a 2015 robbery in Lisson Grove.
667
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,120
The gun was never recovered,
668
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:27,480
but an arrest was made
of an Elton Paul King,
669
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,200
a known associate
670
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:32,000
and fellow gang member
of one Joseph Bell.
671
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,600
Call Earlmarsh,
672
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,800
see if we can organise
another interview.
673
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,640
Do we know where this Mr King was
at the time of Precious's murder?
674
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,240
Yeah, Winterstoke, six months
into a ten stretch for the robbery.
675
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,040
He was released on parole last year.
676
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,440
OK, well, let's see if we can
speak to him ASAP, please.
677
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:03,400
So, er... So, yeah.
678
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,080
Just... Just so you know,
this is not remotely...
679
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,560
..who I am or how I work.
680
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,600
You know, this last week or so,
it's not, erm...
681
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:13,840
So, you know, I'm...
682
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,280
I'm sorry.
683
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:20,200
And, er, of course...
of course we need to talk.
684
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:23,240
So send me the Zooms, please.
I really want to see them.
685
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,560
And then, erm...
686
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,080
Yeah, let's...
687
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,360
..let's reset.
688
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,800
As per my email,
689
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:46,680
if I were to decide
to bring things forward...
690
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,800
..how much notice would you need?
691
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,280
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