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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,000 - Synced and corrected by chamallow - - www.addic7ed.com - 2 00:00:08,609 --> 00:00:10,393 In the criminal justice system, 3 00:00:10,437 --> 00:00:12,641 the people are represented by two separate, 4 00:00:12,642 --> 00:00:14,223 yet equally important groups: 5 00:00:14,267 --> 00:00:16,051 the police, who investigate crime, 6 00:00:16,095 --> 00:00:18,836 and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:20,751 These are their stories. 8 00:00:21,883 --> 00:00:23,711 Thanks, Professor. 9 00:00:23,754 --> 00:00:26,061 I'll let my team know the good news 10 00:00:26,105 --> 00:00:29,673 and we'll have a business plan ready for you by next week. 11 00:00:29,717 --> 00:00:31,022 Talk soon. 12 00:00:54,220 --> 00:00:56,744 DOA's a Hudson grad student named Emily Wade. 13 00:00:56,787 --> 00:00:59,573 - 27, two in the chest. - Witnesses? 14 00:00:59,616 --> 00:01:01,662 Just the classmate who found her. 15 00:01:01,705 --> 00:01:03,620 Didn't see anything, but she was pretty shaken up. 16 00:01:03,664 --> 00:01:05,231 Said she was the most intelligent 17 00:01:05,274 --> 00:01:07,276 and driven woman she'd ever met. 18 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:09,061 Where is this classmate now? 19 00:01:09,104 --> 00:01:11,193 EMTs are treating her for shock. 20 00:01:11,237 --> 00:01:12,411 Evidence of a break-in? 21 00:01:12,455 --> 00:01:14,979 No, looks like it all went down outside. 22 00:01:15,023 --> 00:01:16,590 - Cameras? - Afraid not. 23 00:01:16,633 --> 00:01:19,375 Off-campus housing. Security's pretty lax. 24 00:01:19,419 --> 00:01:21,203 All right, let's see what footage we can find 25 00:01:21,247 --> 00:01:23,423 from businesses and traffic cams, huh? 26 00:01:23,466 --> 00:01:26,339 I'd ballpark time of death as 9:30. 27 00:01:26,381 --> 00:01:27,643 Any indication of assault? 28 00:01:27,688 --> 00:01:29,516 No. But some blood splatter. 29 00:01:29,559 --> 00:01:30,865 Means the shooter was point blank. 30 00:01:30,908 --> 00:01:32,040 I'll check inside. 31 00:01:32,084 --> 00:01:33,085 Probably got hit with some droplets. 32 00:01:33,128 --> 00:01:34,521 Yup. 33 00:01:38,002 --> 00:01:40,482 "Thinking of you." 34 00:01:40,527 --> 00:01:42,355 Doesn't say who it's from or where it's from. 35 00:01:42,398 --> 00:01:45,445 Can you bag that? Thanks. 36 00:01:45,488 --> 00:01:47,621 You already check this? 37 00:01:49,012 --> 00:01:51,538 Cell phone still here. 38 00:01:51,581 --> 00:01:54,454 Wallet, credit cards, money. 39 00:01:54,497 --> 00:01:56,456 Doesn't look like anyone tossed the place. 40 00:01:56,499 --> 00:01:58,719 There's jewelry still along the nightstand. 41 00:01:58,762 --> 00:02:00,721 So it's not a robbery, not an assault. 42 00:02:00,764 --> 00:02:01,852 Double tap to the chest. 43 00:02:01,896 --> 00:02:03,158 Starting to feel like an execution. 44 00:02:03,202 --> 00:02:05,334 - The question is why. - Sad. 45 00:02:05,378 --> 00:02:07,771 Seems like she was going places too. 46 00:02:07,815 --> 00:02:09,642 Too bad she'll never get there now. 47 00:03:00,302 --> 00:03:02,609 I was dropping off a statistics outline 48 00:03:02,652 --> 00:03:05,307 Em had loaned me. Saw this van speeding off. 49 00:03:05,351 --> 00:03:06,743 What'd the van look like? 50 00:03:06,787 --> 00:03:09,529 Uh, blue. Green stripe down the side. 51 00:03:09,572 --> 00:03:12,009 You get a look at the plates or the driver? 52 00:03:12,053 --> 00:03:13,620 Sorry. No. 53 00:03:13,663 --> 00:03:16,057 How well did you know the victim? 54 00:03:16,100 --> 00:03:17,711 We were study partners. 55 00:03:17,754 --> 00:03:21,236 Can you think of anybody she had a problem with? 56 00:03:22,629 --> 00:03:24,239 Yeah. 57 00:03:24,283 --> 00:03:25,762 We'd get drinks at this place 58 00:03:25,806 --> 00:03:28,243 in Dumbo on Wednesdays called Ewing's. 59 00:03:28,287 --> 00:03:30,027 She didn't want to go last week. 60 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:33,117 Said she was fighting with one of the bartenders. 61 00:03:33,161 --> 00:03:34,249 You know what the issue was about? 62 00:03:34,293 --> 00:03:35,903 No. 63 00:03:35,945 --> 00:03:39,428 But he apparently followed her to the library the other day. 64 00:03:46,261 --> 00:03:47,871 Sorry, guys, not open till five. 65 00:03:47,915 --> 00:03:50,046 Nathan Brae. 66 00:03:50,091 --> 00:03:51,310 Who's asking? 67 00:03:51,353 --> 00:03:52,441 We're New York City detectives. 68 00:03:52,485 --> 00:03:54,051 We need a word. 69 00:04:09,763 --> 00:04:11,243 Give me your hands. Give me your hands. 70 00:04:11,286 --> 00:04:13,201 I didn't do anything wrong. 71 00:04:17,292 --> 00:04:18,337 I only ran because I had coke on me. 72 00:04:18,380 --> 00:04:19,642 I didn't want to get in trouble. 73 00:04:19,686 --> 00:04:21,775 Good instincts, so unless you start talking, 74 00:04:21,818 --> 00:04:23,559 we're gonna charge you with possession. 75 00:04:23,603 --> 00:04:26,388 What's your beef with Emily Wade? 76 00:04:26,432 --> 00:04:28,347 I was dating her friend, Alli. 77 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:29,739 It was going good, too, 78 00:04:29,783 --> 00:04:31,785 until she dumped me out of the blue last week. 79 00:04:31,828 --> 00:04:34,004 Turns out Emily's been dissing me all over the place. 80 00:04:34,048 --> 00:04:36,055 - I was pissed. - Is that why you followed her to the library? 81 00:04:36,056 --> 00:04:39,923 Yeah. I told her to stay the hell out of my life 82 00:04:39,967 --> 00:04:41,708 and then some muscle-head gets in between us 83 00:04:41,751 --> 00:04:43,318 and tells me to back off, so I did. 84 00:04:43,362 --> 00:04:45,494 And you didn't go back to her place later that evening, 85 00:04:45,538 --> 00:04:47,061 - try to finish the conversation? - No. 86 00:04:47,104 --> 00:04:48,889 There's no point, you know? 87 00:04:48,932 --> 00:04:50,586 - So where were you? - What do you mean? 88 00:04:50,630 --> 00:04:53,415 - Why do you care? - Because Emily Wade is dead. 89 00:04:55,330 --> 00:04:58,812 Nathan Brae's alibi checks out. Nothing on canvass either. 90 00:04:58,855 --> 00:05:00,640 Any next of kin we can talk to? 91 00:05:00,683 --> 00:05:01,858 Nobody even to notify. 92 00:05:01,902 --> 00:05:03,469 Her parents died when she was five. 93 00:05:03,512 --> 00:05:04,774 She was raised in foster care. 94 00:05:04,818 --> 00:05:07,211 So what about this mysterious blue van? 95 00:05:07,255 --> 00:05:08,952 Snake eyes. 96 00:05:09,015 --> 00:05:11,365 Got something here, Lieutenant. 97 00:05:11,390 --> 00:05:13,957 This is last Wednesday afternoon 98 00:05:14,001 --> 00:05:16,786 outside Drummond Library. 99 00:05:16,830 --> 00:05:19,354 There's our boy, giving her the what for. 100 00:05:19,398 --> 00:05:22,705 The argument doesn't get very far. 101 00:05:22,749 --> 00:05:26,753 Huh, looks like our Good Samaritan's no random bystander. 102 00:05:26,796 --> 00:05:28,537 Any chance we can get an ID? 103 00:05:28,581 --> 00:05:30,452 I already sent the image to FIS. 104 00:05:30,496 --> 00:05:32,672 This is what they just sent back. 105 00:05:32,715 --> 00:05:35,370 Bobby Gorman, 28, ex-Marine. 106 00:05:35,414 --> 00:05:38,504 Any recent contact with Emily? 107 00:05:38,562 --> 00:05:41,173 Lot of romantic back and forth. 108 00:05:41,202 --> 00:05:42,508 Whoa. 109 00:05:42,551 --> 00:05:45,467 Punctuated by a nasty DM he sent early yesterday 110 00:05:45,511 --> 00:05:48,340 accusing her of cheating on him. 111 00:05:48,383 --> 00:05:51,299 "I'm so angry, I could kill you." 112 00:05:51,343 --> 00:05:54,346 We got an address on this charmer? 113 00:05:54,389 --> 00:05:56,652 - Sheepshead Bay. - All right, guys. 114 00:05:56,696 --> 00:05:59,351 Dust off your E-ZPass. You're going to Brooklyn. 115 00:06:04,326 --> 00:06:07,808 I found out about Emily on Citizen. 116 00:06:07,851 --> 00:06:09,723 I can't believe she's gone. 117 00:06:09,766 --> 00:06:11,550 Were you two together? 118 00:06:11,594 --> 00:06:13,030 For a few months. 119 00:06:13,074 --> 00:06:16,512 - How was it going? - Ups and downs. 120 00:06:16,555 --> 00:06:18,819 But I saw a future there. 121 00:06:18,862 --> 00:06:21,169 Let's talk about those downs then, huh? 122 00:06:21,212 --> 00:06:24,694 Like you threatening to kill her. 123 00:06:24,738 --> 00:06:26,783 What? You think I did this? 124 00:06:26,827 --> 00:06:28,002 We think you need to explain why 125 00:06:28,045 --> 00:06:31,527 you were sending her threatening texts. 126 00:06:31,570 --> 00:06:33,181 I felt terrible about that. 127 00:06:33,224 --> 00:06:35,618 - I was just venting. - About what? 128 00:06:35,661 --> 00:06:37,838 All she did was study. 129 00:06:37,881 --> 00:06:39,534 Barely had any time for me. 130 00:06:39,578 --> 00:06:41,537 So I showed up at her place on Thursday 131 00:06:41,580 --> 00:06:43,800 to surprise her with Knicks tickets, 132 00:06:43,844 --> 00:06:47,195 but she was on her way out, all dressed up. 133 00:06:47,238 --> 00:06:50,894 She claimed she had a family issue to deal with. 134 00:06:50,938 --> 00:06:53,201 You go by her place last night for any reason? 135 00:06:53,244 --> 00:06:55,812 No. 136 00:06:55,856 --> 00:06:59,511 Look, I didn't kill her. 137 00:06:59,555 --> 00:07:02,253 I loved her. 138 00:07:05,126 --> 00:07:08,607 Key card to Gorman's loft confirms his alibi. 139 00:07:08,651 --> 00:07:10,392 So where are we with 140 00:07:10,435 --> 00:07:13,612 the unspecified family issues that he alluded to? 141 00:07:13,656 --> 00:07:15,571 Still looking for the family. 142 00:07:15,614 --> 00:07:18,748 All right, so let's work back from the time of the murder. 143 00:07:18,792 --> 00:07:21,098 What was Emily doing that day? Where was she? 144 00:07:21,142 --> 00:07:22,970 - Who was she with? - Already on it. 145 00:07:23,013 --> 00:07:24,580 I pulled Emily's financials. 146 00:07:24,623 --> 00:07:28,584 Found an Uber charge the day of the murder at 4:14 p.m. 147 00:07:28,627 --> 00:07:30,716 - Hmm. - Where'd she go? 148 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:38,768 Yes, I met with the poor soul 149 00:07:38,812 --> 00:07:40,944 - day before yesterday. - About what? 150 00:07:40,988 --> 00:07:43,642 Her foster brother, Lonnie, is a member here. 151 00:07:43,686 --> 00:07:45,862 She was worried about him. 152 00:07:45,906 --> 00:07:48,560 What was she worried about, Pastor Butler? 153 00:07:48,604 --> 00:07:52,260 Uh, it's Pastor Mike, and no offense, Detectives, 154 00:07:52,303 --> 00:07:55,959 but I take my parishioners' privacy very seriously. 155 00:07:56,003 --> 00:07:59,093 We understand, but Emily was murdered shortly after 156 00:07:59,136 --> 00:08:01,399 she left here, so you have to understand 157 00:08:01,443 --> 00:08:05,708 that we need to know why she was so concerned about him. 158 00:08:05,751 --> 00:08:07,645 Yes. 159 00:08:08,189 --> 00:08:10,452 He'd been asking her for money. 160 00:08:10,495 --> 00:08:12,802 She was worried about the direction his life was taking. 161 00:08:12,846 --> 00:08:15,109 What direction are we talking about? 162 00:08:15,152 --> 00:08:18,112 She asked that I motivate him to find a job. 163 00:08:18,155 --> 00:08:21,680 I told her I would do my best and she left. 164 00:08:21,724 --> 00:08:24,205 Excuse me for a second. Reverend Sherman. 165 00:08:26,250 --> 00:08:28,687 Liturgy looks perfect, Henry. Thank you. 166 00:08:31,038 --> 00:08:32,822 Lord's work is never done. 167 00:08:32,866 --> 00:08:34,215 Speaking of the Lord's work... 168 00:08:34,258 --> 00:08:35,912 it's been a minute since I was an altar boy, 169 00:08:35,956 --> 00:08:39,960 but why would Emily think career advice 170 00:08:40,003 --> 00:08:42,223 is something that's in your portfolio? 171 00:08:42,266 --> 00:08:46,531 The success of our flock glorifies God, 172 00:08:46,575 --> 00:08:49,273 so part of our work is to guide them to milk and honey. 173 00:08:49,317 --> 00:08:52,363 As Jesus said, "I came that they may have life 174 00:08:52,407 --> 00:08:54,104 and have it abundantly." 175 00:08:54,148 --> 00:08:55,976 And that's your thing? Abundance? 176 00:08:56,019 --> 00:09:00,154 Yes. My congregation is very generous. 177 00:09:00,197 --> 00:09:02,112 - Thank you for your time. - Thank you. 178 00:09:02,156 --> 00:09:04,810 We'll let you know if there's any follow-up. 179 00:09:07,813 --> 00:09:11,165 - Jesus, Mary, and Joseph. - Tell me how you really feel. 180 00:09:11,208 --> 00:09:13,645 Don't tell me you didn't see that fancy, schmancy suit 181 00:09:13,689 --> 00:09:15,038 and $10,000 watch. 182 00:09:15,082 --> 00:09:17,345 He's bleeding that congregation dry. 183 00:09:17,388 --> 00:09:18,999 It's a little more complicated than that. 184 00:09:19,042 --> 00:09:21,653 A guy like that... he takes, but he also gives. 185 00:09:21,697 --> 00:09:23,699 How so? 186 00:09:23,742 --> 00:09:25,962 Some of these folks are having trouble finding a job, 187 00:09:26,006 --> 00:09:28,312 paying rent, even harder time staying positive. 188 00:09:28,356 --> 00:09:29,835 No different from any church I know. 189 00:09:29,879 --> 00:09:31,054 Yeah, but Pastor Mike 190 00:09:31,098 --> 00:09:32,751 fills a void for people who feel hopeless. 191 00:09:32,795 --> 00:09:35,319 He's modeling success 192 00:09:35,363 --> 00:09:37,278 so that his congregation has something to aspire to. 193 00:09:37,321 --> 00:09:39,889 - Not my idea of religion. - Not mine either. 194 00:09:39,933 --> 00:09:42,587 But religion is whatever works for you, right? 195 00:09:42,631 --> 00:09:45,199 So some people think it's the body of Christ 196 00:09:45,242 --> 00:09:46,548 being represented by a wafer. 197 00:09:46,591 --> 00:09:49,029 Some people think it's ponying up so the pastor 198 00:09:49,072 --> 00:09:51,031 - can wear a Rolex. - I am not buying it. 199 00:09:51,074 --> 00:09:54,382 He's not selling it to you. 200 00:09:54,425 --> 00:09:55,905 Prosperity means something different 201 00:09:55,949 --> 00:09:58,821 when you grow up poor and Black, Frank. 202 00:09:58,864 --> 00:10:00,910 Fair enough. 203 00:10:00,954 --> 00:10:02,477 Let's check with Emily's foster brother. 204 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,131 See what he knows. 205 00:10:04,174 --> 00:10:07,134 Emily and I spent five years in this group home in Canarsie. 206 00:10:07,177 --> 00:10:09,919 The only thing we got out of that place was each other. 207 00:10:11,965 --> 00:10:13,836 She was my big sis. 208 00:10:13,879 --> 00:10:16,186 - Sorry for your loss, Lonnie. - Yeah. 209 00:10:16,230 --> 00:10:17,753 We're trying to piece together 210 00:10:17,796 --> 00:10:19,407 Emily's movements two days ago. 211 00:10:19,450 --> 00:10:21,278 When was the last time you saw her? 212 00:10:23,106 --> 00:10:26,849 I went by her place about lunch. 213 00:10:26,892 --> 00:10:29,504 Now, would you say that was a social call or something else? 214 00:10:31,723 --> 00:10:33,508 I needed her to float me rent. 215 00:10:33,551 --> 00:10:35,031 Oh, you were having money problems? 216 00:10:35,075 --> 00:10:38,600 I got laid off a month ago. 217 00:10:38,643 --> 00:10:40,297 Savings are a little light. 218 00:10:40,341 --> 00:10:44,301 I mean, I couldn't imagine how that conversation might go 219 00:10:44,345 --> 00:10:47,913 between me and my sister if I was asking her to pay my rent. 220 00:10:47,957 --> 00:10:50,786 You guys didn't fight or argue, did you? 221 00:10:50,829 --> 00:10:54,050 No, she was happy to do it. 222 00:10:54,094 --> 00:10:56,966 She even had the money wired to my landlord. 223 00:10:57,010 --> 00:10:58,315 How much money we talking about? 224 00:10:58,359 --> 00:11:00,013 Two grand. 225 00:11:01,449 --> 00:11:04,060 Yeah, well, the brother's story checks out. 226 00:11:04,104 --> 00:11:06,149 Then let's follow the money trail. 227 00:11:06,193 --> 00:11:09,152 Communication just finished the work up on her device. 228 00:11:09,196 --> 00:11:12,068 GPS puts her at the corner of 11th and Avenue C 229 00:11:12,112 --> 00:11:14,418 right after eight on the night of the murder. 230 00:11:14,462 --> 00:11:16,638 The address is a match for a pawn shop 231 00:11:16,681 --> 00:11:18,205 called Sid's Jewelry and Loans. 232 00:11:18,248 --> 00:11:20,468 There ought to be security cams on that street, right? 233 00:11:20,511 --> 00:11:21,860 Searching now. 234 00:11:21,904 --> 00:11:24,298 Pawn shop's got them on front and back. 235 00:11:24,341 --> 00:11:25,995 This is at 8:20. 236 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:27,475 That looks like Emily. 237 00:11:27,518 --> 00:11:29,999 Hey, can you get in tighter on that guy? 238 00:11:30,043 --> 00:11:32,480 Yes, but you never see his face. 239 00:11:32,523 --> 00:11:35,570 All right, well, fast forward on the tape. 240 00:11:35,613 --> 00:11:38,312 - This is 8:32. - She hawks something, 241 00:11:38,355 --> 00:11:40,488 and then an hour later, she's dead. 242 00:11:40,531 --> 00:11:43,099 GPS confirms her next stop was home. 243 00:11:45,362 --> 00:11:47,712 Freeze that. 244 00:11:47,756 --> 00:11:51,194 Yeah, blue van, green pinstripe. 245 00:11:51,238 --> 00:11:53,283 Got a shot of the driver too. 246 00:11:53,327 --> 00:11:55,981 Can't make out details, but it looks like a Black male 247 00:11:56,025 --> 00:11:59,420 wearing the same New York logo hat as the guy on the street. 248 00:11:59,463 --> 00:12:01,726 Could fit the bill of the van leaving the murder scene. 249 00:12:01,770 --> 00:12:03,163 Can you pull up the registration? 250 00:12:03,206 --> 00:12:05,904 Plate comes back to Ruben Grandy, 251 00:12:05,948 --> 00:12:07,515 Astoria. 252 00:12:07,558 --> 00:12:08,994 He's got priors for armed robbery. 253 00:12:09,038 --> 00:12:10,605 All right, bring him in. 254 00:12:19,962 --> 00:12:21,529 Police! Show me your hands. 255 00:12:21,572 --> 00:12:23,008 - Show me your hands. - Don't move! 256 00:12:23,052 --> 00:12:24,706 Take it easy, fellas. 257 00:12:24,749 --> 00:12:27,230 - Who else is here? - Nobody, I swear to God. 258 00:12:27,274 --> 00:12:28,753 - All rooms clear. - Clear. 259 00:12:28,797 --> 00:12:31,060 - Let's go. - All right, keep your hands up 260 00:12:31,104 --> 00:12:32,975 and stand up for me. Let's go. 261 00:12:33,018 --> 00:12:34,150 All right, but I'ma need my crutches. 262 00:12:34,194 --> 00:12:35,978 I got a broken leg. 263 00:12:43,558 --> 00:12:46,735 I told you, I was playing poker here with some friends. 264 00:12:46,778 --> 00:12:49,564 - Where's your van? - Gave it away a few weeks ago. 265 00:12:49,607 --> 00:12:52,001 - To who? - My church. First Harmony. 266 00:12:52,044 --> 00:12:54,264 Cast won't come off till summer, so I can't drive. 267 00:12:54,308 --> 00:12:56,223 I was happy to send it their way too. 268 00:12:56,266 --> 00:12:58,834 - And why's that? - Guy that runs the church, 269 00:12:58,877 --> 00:13:02,272 Pastor Mike, he's a good man. 270 00:13:02,316 --> 00:13:04,753 Found me a job when I got out of Sing Sing. 271 00:13:04,796 --> 00:13:07,277 So Pastor Mike is the one driving the van now. 272 00:13:07,321 --> 00:13:09,975 No, he gave it to the vice pastor, 273 00:13:10,019 --> 00:13:12,282 Reverend Sherman. 274 00:13:12,326 --> 00:13:15,198 Yes, I was driving Ruben's van. 275 00:13:15,242 --> 00:13:17,026 My car is in the shop. 276 00:13:17,069 --> 00:13:18,549 Where'd you go after you left the church? 277 00:13:18,593 --> 00:13:20,247 Home. 278 00:13:20,290 --> 00:13:22,858 You have any interaction with Emily Wade couple nights ago? 279 00:13:22,901 --> 00:13:25,121 - Who? - Emily Wade. 280 00:13:25,164 --> 00:13:27,341 Her brother's Lonnie Ballard. He's a congregant. 281 00:13:27,384 --> 00:13:30,126 Mm. 282 00:13:30,169 --> 00:13:31,475 Before I say anything else, 283 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:33,216 I need to know why you're asking that. 284 00:13:33,260 --> 00:13:34,870 That van was used in the commission 285 00:13:34,913 --> 00:13:37,264 of the murder of Emily Wade. 286 00:13:37,307 --> 00:13:38,700 You accusing me of something? 287 00:13:38,743 --> 00:13:40,615 You stop by a pawn shop that night around 8:30, 288 00:13:40,658 --> 00:13:44,358 - maybe one on 11th and Avenue C? - No. 289 00:13:44,401 --> 00:13:46,098 So you're saying you went straight home 290 00:13:46,142 --> 00:13:47,448 from First Harmony and you never left. 291 00:13:47,491 --> 00:13:50,320 - Is that right, Henry? - It's Reverend Sherman. 292 00:13:50,364 --> 00:13:52,409 You'd do well to remember who you're talking to. 293 00:13:56,283 --> 00:13:59,155 We know exactly who we're talking to. 294 00:13:59,198 --> 00:14:01,157 An ex-con with a rap sheet as long as my arm 295 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:03,333 and a seven-year stint in Fishkill. 296 00:14:03,377 --> 00:14:05,379 And now, all of a sudden, you're a man of the cloth? 297 00:14:05,422 --> 00:14:07,468 - Meaning what? - Meaning you're no bishop, 298 00:14:07,511 --> 00:14:09,731 so you need to account for your whereabouts two nights ago. 299 00:14:09,774 --> 00:14:13,038 The only one I need to account to is God. 300 00:14:13,082 --> 00:14:15,084 And I won't stand here and be insulted... 301 00:14:15,127 --> 00:14:17,703 - Hey. - For devoting my life to the almighty. 302 00:14:17,704 --> 00:14:19,273 - Calm down. - You can see yourselves out. 303 00:14:19,274 --> 00:14:21,569 You're on parole. You're not going anywhere. 304 00:14:21,612 --> 00:14:23,745 - Hey, hey. Wait. - Yo, take your hands off of me. 305 00:14:23,788 --> 00:14:25,747 Hey, Henry. 306 00:14:25,790 --> 00:14:27,792 We got a church too. 307 00:14:27,836 --> 00:14:30,142 And putting hands on my partner, 308 00:14:30,186 --> 00:14:32,231 that's a sin. 309 00:14:33,755 --> 00:14:36,105 - Let's try this again. - I already told you. 310 00:14:36,148 --> 00:14:38,412 I was at the church until six then I went home. 311 00:14:38,455 --> 00:14:40,370 How do you explain the fact that you were seen 312 00:14:40,414 --> 00:14:42,416 in that van driving away from the church? 313 00:14:42,459 --> 00:14:45,332 That same van was spotted a few hours later 314 00:14:45,375 --> 00:14:47,159 fleeing the scene of Emily's shooting. 315 00:14:47,203 --> 00:14:48,509 Someone else had to be driving it. 316 00:14:48,552 --> 00:14:50,380 Somebody else is driving your van? 317 00:14:50,424 --> 00:14:53,122 Yeah, I left the keys on the front tire when I parked it. 318 00:14:53,165 --> 00:14:54,645 And why would you do that? 319 00:14:54,689 --> 00:14:56,778 So parishioners in need of transportation can use it. 320 00:14:56,821 --> 00:14:59,737 You got callers for possession and burglary. 321 00:14:59,781 --> 00:15:02,958 Maybe you're using again. Maybe you're hard up for cash 322 00:15:03,001 --> 00:15:04,655 and you saw Emily as an easy target. 323 00:15:04,699 --> 00:15:06,091 - You're wrong. - I don't think I am. 324 00:15:06,135 --> 00:15:09,399 I'm searching your van. 325 00:15:09,443 --> 00:15:11,488 - You okay with all this? - With what? 326 00:15:11,532 --> 00:15:12,794 End of the day, 327 00:15:12,837 --> 00:15:16,188 you got to decide whose side you're really on. 328 00:15:16,232 --> 00:15:18,277 I've already decided, brother. 329 00:15:18,321 --> 00:15:20,976 I'm on God's side. 330 00:15:21,019 --> 00:15:23,500 Turns out, he doesn't like murder. 331 00:15:25,241 --> 00:15:28,287 There's a baseball cap with a New York logo on it 332 00:15:28,331 --> 00:15:31,160 and there's blood on the armrest. 333 00:15:31,203 --> 00:15:33,118 Blood. 334 00:15:33,162 --> 00:15:35,164 - You want to explain that? - I'm not talking. 335 00:15:35,207 --> 00:15:36,557 Well, maybe you'll talk to a jury. 336 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,559 You're under arrest for the murder of Emily Wade. 337 00:15:42,214 --> 00:15:44,739 Calling docket ending in 2129. 338 00:15:44,782 --> 00:15:46,349 People versus Henry Sherman 339 00:15:46,393 --> 00:15:48,830 charged with murder in the second degree. 340 00:15:48,873 --> 00:15:50,397 How does the defendant plead? 341 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,442 Not guilty, Your Honor. 342 00:15:52,486 --> 00:15:54,401 I'll hear the people on bail. 343 00:15:54,444 --> 00:15:55,706 We're seeking remand. 344 00:15:55,750 --> 00:15:58,143 The defendant stalked the victim, 345 00:15:58,187 --> 00:16:02,626 followed her home, then shot her to death during a botched robbery. 346 00:16:02,670 --> 00:16:04,323 Evidence is substantial. 347 00:16:04,367 --> 00:16:06,369 We found the victim's blood in a van 348 00:16:06,413 --> 00:16:08,197 that the defendant had control over... 349 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,243 the same van seen leaving the victim's apartment 350 00:16:11,287 --> 00:16:13,550 - shortly after the murder. - Mr. Gale. 351 00:16:13,594 --> 00:16:17,032 My client is a highly respected member of the clergy. 352 00:16:17,075 --> 00:16:18,468 With a lengthy criminal record. 353 00:16:18,512 --> 00:16:21,950 Who's lived an exemplary life since finding God. 354 00:16:21,993 --> 00:16:25,040 There's no eye witnesses, no gun, 355 00:16:25,083 --> 00:16:26,650 no evidence of motive. 356 00:16:26,694 --> 00:16:30,785 No one can put my client behind the wheel of that van 357 00:16:30,828 --> 00:16:32,700 at the time of the murder. 358 00:16:32,743 --> 00:16:35,529 An argument you're free to make at trial, Mr. Gale. 359 00:16:35,572 --> 00:16:37,705 Bail is set at $1 million. 360 00:16:41,186 --> 00:16:45,452 Case is solid, but our motive is still weak. 361 00:16:45,495 --> 00:16:48,411 Why on Earth would this man kill Emily Wade? 362 00:16:48,455 --> 00:16:50,848 Does it matter? If we can prove he shot her, 363 00:16:50,892 --> 00:16:52,763 his motive's irrelevant. 364 00:16:52,807 --> 00:16:55,374 My mentor taught me that. 365 00:16:55,418 --> 00:16:57,507 Yes, but he also taught you 366 00:16:57,551 --> 00:17:00,423 juries hate cases that don't make sense. 367 00:17:00,466 --> 00:17:03,295 You're right. He did. 368 00:17:03,339 --> 00:17:06,429 So let's dig deeper. 369 00:17:06,473 --> 00:17:09,824 Find a credible reason why Sherman wanted to kill Emily. 370 00:17:09,867 --> 00:17:13,480 Scour his texts, email, phone records, financials. 371 00:17:17,135 --> 00:17:20,095 Mm-hmm. 372 00:17:20,137 --> 00:17:23,706 - A V12. - Gentlemen. 373 00:17:23,751 --> 00:17:25,492 Pastor Mike. 374 00:17:25,535 --> 00:17:27,319 Nice ride. You got a minute? 375 00:17:27,363 --> 00:17:29,931 I'd love to chat, but I'm late. 376 00:17:29,974 --> 00:17:32,063 One of my oldest and dearest congregants is quite ill. 377 00:17:32,107 --> 00:17:35,066 I'm heading over to the hospital to pray with him. 378 00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:36,764 Help him find peace before he passes. 379 00:17:36,807 --> 00:17:38,940 Oh, that's fantastic, so this won't take long. 380 00:17:38,983 --> 00:17:40,115 We just have a few questions. 381 00:17:40,158 --> 00:17:41,508 Sorry, I can't. Not now. 382 00:17:41,551 --> 00:17:43,640 Oh, you misunderstand my kindness here. 383 00:17:43,684 --> 00:17:46,948 I'm not asking. I'm telling. 384 00:17:46,991 --> 00:17:48,776 You're telling? 385 00:17:48,819 --> 00:17:50,473 No, you don't get to tell me a damn thing. 386 00:17:50,517 --> 00:17:52,606 Sure I do. For starters, I'm telling you 387 00:17:52,649 --> 00:17:54,390 that we know that vice Pastor Sherman 388 00:17:54,433 --> 00:17:59,221 deposited a $50,000 check a day after Emily Wade was shot. 389 00:17:59,264 --> 00:18:00,962 So? 390 00:18:01,005 --> 00:18:03,486 So we want to know what the check was for. 391 00:18:03,530 --> 00:18:05,401 - It's a private matter. - Private? 392 00:18:05,444 --> 00:18:07,534 Sherman was charged with murder, 393 00:18:07,577 --> 00:18:10,841 so anything he has said or done is now a public matter. 394 00:18:12,626 --> 00:18:15,237 I'm done talking, so you can either arrest me 395 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,631 or step out of my way. 396 00:18:24,594 --> 00:18:26,422 Good day. 397 00:18:37,564 --> 00:18:39,522 Does your pastor drive a Bentley? 398 00:18:39,566 --> 00:18:41,872 I don't go to church enough to know. 399 00:18:45,685 --> 00:18:48,427 A superseding indictment for first-degree murder. 400 00:18:48,470 --> 00:18:51,343 - On what basis? - Murder for hire. 401 00:18:51,405 --> 00:18:55,670 Pastor Mike paid your client to kill Emily Wade. 402 00:18:56,137 --> 00:18:57,747 Is this a joke? 403 00:18:57,791 --> 00:19:00,097 Here are 50,000 reasons it's not. 404 00:19:01,977 --> 00:19:05,241 So he makes a $50,000 deposit. 405 00:19:05,276 --> 00:19:07,721 - Who cares? - I'm guessing the jury might 406 00:19:07,746 --> 00:19:09,574 since it was the day after the murder 407 00:19:09,618 --> 00:19:11,054 from a First Harmony account. 408 00:19:11,097 --> 00:19:14,666 And phone logs show Mr. Sherman called Pastor Mike 409 00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:18,061 just before and after Emily Wade was shot to death. 410 00:19:18,104 --> 00:19:20,237 Look, if we're right, and we are, 411 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,109 you would be wise to cooperate. 412 00:19:23,153 --> 00:19:26,330 Tell us what really happened, or there's a very good chance 413 00:19:26,373 --> 00:19:29,899 you'll die in prison. 414 00:19:29,942 --> 00:19:32,684 I've got nothing to say. 415 00:19:32,728 --> 00:19:36,862 You feel obligation to Pastor Mike 416 00:19:36,906 --> 00:19:39,125 because he took you in, 417 00:19:39,169 --> 00:19:41,475 he gave you a job, a purpose. 418 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:45,044 But what he really did is use you. 419 00:19:45,088 --> 00:19:49,483 That's why you're here taking the rap and he's not. 420 00:19:52,269 --> 00:19:55,228 Murder two, 15 years. 421 00:19:56,926 --> 00:19:58,797 I'm not a rat. 422 00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:10,679 Hold on. Wait. 423 00:20:16,641 --> 00:20:20,079 How about man one, ten years flat? 424 00:20:20,123 --> 00:20:23,126 We're listening. 425 00:20:23,169 --> 00:20:25,911 Pastor Mike was nervous. 426 00:20:25,955 --> 00:20:28,479 Said that Emily was a problem. 427 00:20:28,522 --> 00:20:30,611 That we needed to shut her ass up. 428 00:20:30,655 --> 00:20:34,267 What did he mean by that? 429 00:20:34,311 --> 00:20:37,314 He wanted me to kill her. 430 00:20:40,273 --> 00:20:42,145 Why would he want to do that? 431 00:20:42,188 --> 00:20:46,497 She told Pastor Mike she was gonna call the police 432 00:20:46,540 --> 00:20:49,413 if he didn't return her brother's donation. 433 00:20:49,456 --> 00:20:51,763 Let them know what's really going on in the church. 434 00:20:51,807 --> 00:20:55,506 - Is that some sort of secret? - No. 435 00:20:55,549 --> 00:20:58,335 But Pastor Mike doesn't like paying taxes 436 00:20:58,378 --> 00:21:02,774 or going to jail, so he panicked. 437 00:21:02,818 --> 00:21:05,081 Okay. 438 00:21:05,124 --> 00:21:06,517 Yeah, we got a deal, 439 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,433 assuming your story checks out, of course. 440 00:21:13,742 --> 00:21:17,876 Did you give or donate money to Pastor Mike? 441 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,009 Yes. 442 00:21:20,052 --> 00:21:21,575 $40,000. 443 00:21:21,619 --> 00:21:24,796 - Did Emily know about this? - Yes. 444 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,842 I told her that day I asked her to help me pay the rent. 445 00:21:26,885 --> 00:21:30,628 Well, when she heard about the donation, was she upset? 446 00:21:30,671 --> 00:21:34,806 Did she tell you she was going to go get your money back? 447 00:21:34,850 --> 00:21:37,809 She was upset. She thought I was an idiot. 448 00:21:37,853 --> 00:21:39,724 But she didn't think like I did. 449 00:21:39,768 --> 00:21:43,815 She's not a believer like me. 450 00:21:43,859 --> 00:21:46,775 Wait. 451 00:21:46,818 --> 00:21:50,082 You think Pastor Mike has something to do with her murder? 452 00:21:50,126 --> 00:21:51,562 That is correct. 453 00:21:51,605 --> 00:21:53,694 When she found out you gave him that money, 454 00:21:53,738 --> 00:21:57,176 she stormed over to the church and demanded he give it back. 455 00:21:57,220 --> 00:21:59,483 Or she would inform the police about his antics. 456 00:21:59,526 --> 00:22:01,006 What do you mean antics? 457 00:22:01,050 --> 00:22:05,083 Buying houses and boats with his congregants' hard-earned cash. 458 00:22:05,084 --> 00:22:07,970 You're wrong. The money we give helps with prosperity. 459 00:22:08,013 --> 00:22:09,580 It's part of the gospel. 460 00:22:09,623 --> 00:22:11,321 I know this is hard for you to hear... 461 00:22:11,364 --> 00:22:13,410 Pastor Mike would never hurt Emily. 462 00:22:13,453 --> 00:22:14,890 He's a healer. 463 00:22:14,933 --> 00:22:19,546 I mean, if it wasn't for him, I'd probably be dead. 464 00:22:19,590 --> 00:22:21,461 I mean, he got me off heroin. 465 00:22:25,074 --> 00:22:27,076 And with all due respect, 466 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,601 that has nothing to do with your sister's case. 467 00:22:33,604 --> 00:22:36,999 I think I've had enough. 468 00:22:37,042 --> 00:22:39,610 Please leave. 469 00:22:39,653 --> 00:22:41,786 Now. 470 00:22:45,659 --> 00:22:46,965 Let me get this straight. 471 00:22:47,009 --> 00:22:49,838 You want to go after a pillar of the community, 472 00:22:49,881 --> 00:22:52,275 a clergyman, 473 00:22:52,318 --> 00:22:54,146 on the word of a convicted felon 474 00:22:54,190 --> 00:22:55,931 with every reason to trade up. 475 00:22:55,974 --> 00:22:58,847 We believe Henry Sherman is telling the truth. 476 00:22:58,890 --> 00:23:01,501 The victim's brother confirmed the crux of his story. 477 00:23:01,545 --> 00:23:04,417 That's great, but Sherman is still the felon 478 00:23:04,461 --> 00:23:07,333 with a fantastic motive to lie his ass off. 479 00:23:07,377 --> 00:23:09,727 We're talking about a religious leader 480 00:23:09,770 --> 00:23:13,078 who orchestrated someone's murder to cover up his scheme. 481 00:23:13,122 --> 00:23:15,776 If we don't at least try to hold someone like that 482 00:23:15,820 --> 00:23:18,388 accountable, we're in the wrong line of work. 483 00:23:22,696 --> 00:23:26,135 Put Pastor Mike on trial, not his church. 484 00:23:26,178 --> 00:23:29,878 If you lose religious jurors, you won't have a prayer. 485 00:23:32,750 --> 00:23:36,232 ♪ Gonna lay down my burden ♪ 486 00:23:36,275 --> 00:23:38,669 ♪ Down by the riverside ♪ 487 00:23:38,712 --> 00:23:43,456 - ♪ Study war no more ♪ - Yes. 488 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:45,154 Lord. 489 00:23:45,197 --> 00:23:47,678 - They live. - Yes. 490 00:23:47,721 --> 00:23:50,507 - Praise the Lord. - Yeah! 491 00:23:50,550 --> 00:23:52,378 Thank you, choir, for lifting our spirits 492 00:23:52,422 --> 00:23:54,206 on the winds of your song. Amen? 493 00:23:54,250 --> 00:23:55,816 - Amen. - Amen? 494 00:23:55,860 --> 00:23:57,427 Amen. 495 00:23:57,470 --> 00:24:01,170 I want to talk about the importance of your financial support. 496 00:24:01,213 --> 00:24:03,520 What you give your church will come back to you tenfold. 497 00:24:03,563 --> 00:24:06,479 - Yes. - Detectives. 498 00:24:06,523 --> 00:24:08,481 You're interrupting our service. 499 00:24:08,525 --> 00:24:10,701 Pastor, we need a word. 500 00:24:10,744 --> 00:24:13,486 - You're gonna have to wait. - Justice waits for no man. 501 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:19,623 You're under arrest for the murder of Emily Wade. 502 00:24:25,098 --> 00:24:29,145 Fear not, my children. God has a plan. 503 00:24:29,198 --> 00:24:30,851 The righteous shall prevail. 504 00:24:32,649 --> 00:24:34,042 This is ludicrous. 505 00:24:34,588 --> 00:24:36,199 Do you seriously think 506 00:24:36,224 --> 00:24:38,095 that I'm involved in this young woman's death? 507 00:24:38,139 --> 00:24:39,271 We do. 508 00:24:39,314 --> 00:24:41,925 Because Reverend Sherman made up a story. 509 00:24:41,984 --> 00:24:44,378 He seemed pretty credible. 510 00:24:44,406 --> 00:24:48,062 Evidence supports it too. 511 00:24:48,123 --> 00:24:51,562 I suppose the darkness from within was just 512 00:24:51,587 --> 00:24:52,936 too much for him to overcome. 513 00:24:52,980 --> 00:24:55,200 Yeah, that may be true, but right now, 514 00:24:55,243 --> 00:24:58,638 you need to help yourself and tell us what happened. 515 00:25:03,599 --> 00:25:06,036 I'm done talking. 516 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,951 I want a lawyer. 517 00:25:07,995 --> 00:25:10,954 Reverend Sherman can say whatever he wants, 518 00:25:10,998 --> 00:25:13,914 but the truth will prevail. 519 00:25:19,267 --> 00:25:21,443 After Emily Wade left First Harmony, 520 00:25:21,487 --> 00:25:24,577 did you have occasion to confer with Pastor Mike? 521 00:25:24,620 --> 00:25:26,970 - I did. - And what did he tell you 522 00:25:27,014 --> 00:25:29,234 about the conversation that he'd had with her? 523 00:25:36,328 --> 00:25:41,637 We didn't talk about her. We talked about his sermon. 524 00:25:41,681 --> 00:25:44,161 He didn't tell you that Ms. Wade 525 00:25:44,205 --> 00:25:45,946 wanted her brother's money back 526 00:25:45,989 --> 00:25:47,904 or she was gonna go to the police? 527 00:25:47,948 --> 00:25:49,341 - No. - He didn't tell you 528 00:25:49,384 --> 00:25:51,734 that she would destroy everything you'd built, 529 00:25:51,778 --> 00:25:54,476 - so you had to shut her up? - No. 530 00:26:00,134 --> 00:26:03,137 Mr. Sherman, did you or did you not tell me 531 00:26:03,180 --> 00:26:06,445 Pastor Mike paid you to kill Emily Wade. 532 00:26:06,488 --> 00:26:08,795 I did tell you that, 533 00:26:08,838 --> 00:26:10,623 and I was lying because I wanted a deal. 534 00:26:12,102 --> 00:26:14,017 Quiet or I'll clear the gallery. 535 00:26:14,061 --> 00:26:18,152 The truth is you're lying now out of some misguided 536 00:26:18,195 --> 00:26:19,849 sense of loyalty to your boss, aren't you? 537 00:26:19,893 --> 00:26:22,417 I'm not lying. I'm telling the truth. 538 00:26:22,461 --> 00:26:24,245 Sir, I remind you that if you violate the terms 539 00:26:24,289 --> 00:26:26,160 - of your plea agreement... - Objection. 540 00:26:26,203 --> 00:26:29,032 - Asked and answered. - I agree. 541 00:26:29,076 --> 00:26:33,737 Mr. Price, the witness' testimony is very clear. 542 00:26:37,389 --> 00:26:39,478 Nothing further. 543 00:26:39,521 --> 00:26:41,001 Mr. Dressler? 544 00:26:41,044 --> 00:26:42,655 No questions, Your Honor. 545 00:26:42,698 --> 00:26:45,614 The People request a brief recess. 546 00:26:45,658 --> 00:26:47,355 We're adjourned until tomorrow. 547 00:26:58,540 --> 00:27:01,195 Rikers' Visitor Log shows Pastor Mike's attorney 548 00:27:01,238 --> 00:27:03,153 went to visit Sherman in jail yesterday. 549 00:27:03,197 --> 00:27:06,809 Less than 24 hours later, Sherman sandbags us. 550 00:27:06,853 --> 00:27:08,376 It's witness tampering. 551 00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:10,509 No doubt. 552 00:27:10,552 --> 00:27:12,467 But that's too hard to prove. 553 00:27:12,511 --> 00:27:14,339 We'll just have to make the case without him. 554 00:27:19,474 --> 00:27:22,651 We were looking at calls coming into Pastor Mike 555 00:27:22,695 --> 00:27:24,697 the day of the murder, right? 556 00:27:24,740 --> 00:27:26,046 Yeah, I'm not following. 557 00:27:26,089 --> 00:27:28,614 We know Sherman called Pastor Mike 558 00:27:28,657 --> 00:27:30,355 right after he killed Emily. 559 00:27:30,398 --> 00:27:33,401 But according to this call log, Pastor Mike called someone else 560 00:27:33,445 --> 00:27:36,535 as soon as that conversation was finished. 561 00:27:36,578 --> 00:27:38,754 Let's find out who he called and what he said. 562 00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:46,066 As Senior Pastor of First Harmony, 563 00:27:46,109 --> 00:27:49,112 I don't have day-to-day involvement. 564 00:27:49,156 --> 00:27:53,552 I function strictly in an advisory capacity now. 565 00:27:53,595 --> 00:27:56,381 Yes, but that capacity includes 566 00:27:56,424 --> 00:27:58,818 the provision of counsel to Pastor Mike, doesn't it? 567 00:27:58,861 --> 00:28:00,254 It does. 568 00:28:00,297 --> 00:28:03,779 Does he typically call you in the evening? 569 00:28:03,823 --> 00:28:08,088 - He does not. - But he did call you December 14th at night. 570 00:28:08,131 --> 00:28:09,655 What did you two talk about? 571 00:28:11,613 --> 00:28:13,441 I'm a preacher. 572 00:28:13,485 --> 00:28:15,965 Conversations with my congregants are 573 00:28:16,009 --> 00:28:18,446 meant to be confidential. 574 00:28:18,490 --> 00:28:20,666 A woman was murdered. 575 00:28:20,709 --> 00:28:22,581 Doesn't that trump confidentiality? 576 00:28:25,975 --> 00:28:29,541 He called me on that night as his clergyman. 577 00:28:30,371 --> 00:28:34,331 He wanted to unburden his soul, 578 00:28:34,375 --> 00:28:38,205 which means the nature of that conversation 579 00:28:38,248 --> 00:28:42,601 is protected under the laws of the State of New York. 580 00:28:42,644 --> 00:28:47,301 So just so I'm clear... 581 00:28:47,367 --> 00:28:51,502 you're okay if a murderer walks free? 582 00:28:58,660 --> 00:29:03,665 I'm not talking, fellas. Simple as that. 583 00:29:11,812 --> 00:29:14,554 Bryant is the whole ballgame. He has to testify. 584 00:29:14,598 --> 00:29:18,950 But he's a clergyman. And he's right about the law. 585 00:29:18,993 --> 00:29:21,561 His conversation with the defendant is privileged. 586 00:29:21,605 --> 00:29:25,391 Unless that privilege is in service of a crime or fraud. 587 00:29:25,435 --> 00:29:26,958 You're on dangerous ground, Nolan. 588 00:29:27,001 --> 00:29:29,090 To prove that, you have to attack the church. 589 00:29:29,134 --> 00:29:30,744 I thought we agreed 590 00:29:30,788 --> 00:29:33,486 that we would make the case about the man not the religion. 591 00:29:33,530 --> 00:29:34,748 I'm not going after religion. 592 00:29:34,792 --> 00:29:37,621 I'm going after a single corrupt preacher. 593 00:29:37,664 --> 00:29:39,405 It'll read as blasphemy. 594 00:29:39,449 --> 00:29:41,320 Delegitimizing First Harmony 595 00:29:41,363 --> 00:29:43,844 is the only way to convict Pastor Mike. 596 00:29:43,888 --> 00:29:45,716 Otherwise, we may as well drop the charges. 597 00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:49,110 If we lose this case, all people will remember 598 00:29:49,154 --> 00:29:51,417 is an over-zealous prosecutor 599 00:29:51,461 --> 00:29:54,289 who vilified a church for no good reason. 600 00:29:54,333 --> 00:29:56,988 And that's all I'm going to remember too. 601 00:29:59,947 --> 00:30:03,429 The mere suggestion this trial should devolve into 602 00:30:03,473 --> 00:30:06,867 a referendum on the legitimacy of First Harmony is outrageous. 603 00:30:06,911 --> 00:30:09,566 I take the point. Mr. Price? 604 00:30:09,609 --> 00:30:13,787 The People are aware of the sensitivities at play here. 605 00:30:13,831 --> 00:30:15,920 But we're only questioning that legitimacy 606 00:30:15,963 --> 00:30:19,097 for the limited purposes of a privilege inquiry. 607 00:30:19,140 --> 00:30:21,969 The phone call between Pastor Mike and Pastor Bryant 608 00:30:22,013 --> 00:30:25,277 was obviously for the purpose of seeking spiritual advice. 609 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,974 Presumptively for that purpose, 610 00:30:27,018 --> 00:30:29,542 a presumption that can be overcome 611 00:30:29,586 --> 00:30:33,459 if we establish that the church is a corrupt enterprise. 612 00:30:33,503 --> 00:30:35,592 I share your concerns, Mr. Dressler, 613 00:30:35,635 --> 00:30:37,942 but this is a murder trial. 614 00:30:37,985 --> 00:30:39,561 So I'm gonna grant the People 615 00:30:39,562 --> 00:30:43,077 a limited opportunity to demonstrate fraud. 616 00:30:43,121 --> 00:30:45,993 And the defense will have the chance to rebut. 617 00:30:51,738 --> 00:30:56,569 Mr. Conley, how much did you donate to First Harmony? 618 00:30:56,613 --> 00:30:59,180 $61,000 over three years. 619 00:30:59,224 --> 00:31:00,530 And during that time, 620 00:31:00,573 --> 00:31:03,402 did you experience any financial setbacks? 621 00:31:03,445 --> 00:31:06,405 Yes. I lost my home, my car. 622 00:31:06,448 --> 00:31:08,059 Couldn't even pay the storage facility, 623 00:31:08,102 --> 00:31:09,539 so they sold my stuff. 624 00:31:09,582 --> 00:31:12,890 And yet you continued donating to First Harmony, right? 625 00:31:12,933 --> 00:31:14,326 - Yes. - Why? 626 00:31:14,369 --> 00:31:16,502 Because Pastor Mike told me if I stopped giving, 627 00:31:16,546 --> 00:31:18,983 it could jeopardize my relationship with God. 628 00:31:19,026 --> 00:31:21,899 The money you donated... do you know where it went? 629 00:31:21,942 --> 00:31:23,988 Yeah. His Tesla. 630 00:31:24,031 --> 00:31:27,252 His mansion in Armonk. His catamaran. 631 00:31:27,295 --> 00:31:30,342 What Pastor needs a catamaran? 632 00:31:30,385 --> 00:31:32,562 Nothing further. 633 00:31:36,087 --> 00:31:38,611 Mr. Conley, 634 00:31:38,655 --> 00:31:41,396 are you currently a member of Gamblers Anonymous? 635 00:31:43,834 --> 00:31:45,139 Yes. 636 00:31:45,183 --> 00:31:47,620 And how much money have you lost gambling 637 00:31:47,664 --> 00:31:49,100 the past three years? 638 00:31:49,143 --> 00:31:50,841 I don't remember. 639 00:31:50,884 --> 00:31:54,322 Nearly $200,000. Is that right? 640 00:31:54,366 --> 00:31:56,107 I guess. 641 00:31:56,150 --> 00:31:58,283 So First Harmony isn't the real cause 642 00:31:58,326 --> 00:32:00,459 of your financial woes, is it? 643 00:32:00,502 --> 00:32:01,895 Doesn't matter. 644 00:32:01,939 --> 00:32:04,202 That man over there stole from me. 645 00:32:10,774 --> 00:32:13,603 Mr. Ballard, you're a recovering heroin addict. 646 00:32:13,646 --> 00:32:15,387 - Is that right? - Recovered. 647 00:32:15,430 --> 00:32:16,954 That's amazing. 648 00:32:16,997 --> 00:32:20,044 And to what do you attribute your recovery? 649 00:32:20,087 --> 00:32:21,654 Pastor Mike. 650 00:32:21,698 --> 00:32:24,788 He got me into a facility, paid for the program. 651 00:32:24,831 --> 00:32:26,572 Visited me every day for six weeks 652 00:32:26,616 --> 00:32:28,052 to make sure I was doing the work. 653 00:32:28,095 --> 00:32:30,358 Were you employed as a sales rep 654 00:32:30,402 --> 00:32:32,317 for Shearing Pharmaceuticals? 655 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,667 Yes, for four years. 656 00:32:34,711 --> 00:32:36,277 I just got laid off. 657 00:32:36,321 --> 00:32:39,063 I'm sorry about that. And who got you that job? 658 00:32:39,106 --> 00:32:40,804 Pastor Mike. 659 00:32:40,847 --> 00:32:42,457 There's been testimony about 660 00:32:42,501 --> 00:32:44,982 Pastor Mike's extravagant lifestyle. 661 00:32:45,025 --> 00:32:46,636 Are you familiar with how he lives? 662 00:32:46,679 --> 00:32:47,898 Of course. 663 00:32:47,941 --> 00:32:50,204 And it's a blessing to the congregation. 664 00:32:50,248 --> 00:32:52,772 Do you believe First Harmony defrauded you in any way? 665 00:32:52,816 --> 00:32:55,253 No. As Pastor Mike likes to say, 666 00:32:55,296 --> 00:32:58,343 "When we invest in the church, we invest in ourselves." 667 00:32:58,386 --> 00:33:00,084 And I'm living proof that's true. 668 00:33:00,127 --> 00:33:01,694 Thank you. 669 00:33:04,349 --> 00:33:05,611 Mr. Ballard, 670 00:33:05,655 --> 00:33:08,048 I'm very sorry about the loss of your sister. 671 00:33:08,092 --> 00:33:10,572 Thank you. 672 00:33:10,616 --> 00:33:15,447 Until a short time ago, what was your net worth? 673 00:33:15,490 --> 00:33:17,449 About $40,000. 674 00:33:17,492 --> 00:33:19,494 What's your net worth now? 675 00:33:19,538 --> 00:33:22,367 - Less than that. - In fact, it is zero. 676 00:33:22,410 --> 00:33:26,414 Because you donated every cent you had to First Harmony. 677 00:33:26,458 --> 00:33:27,807 I'll make more. 678 00:33:27,851 --> 00:33:30,636 How much have you given First Harmony 679 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,160 over the past four years? 680 00:33:33,204 --> 00:33:34,466 I don't remember. 681 00:33:34,509 --> 00:33:38,426 Does almost $90,000 sound right? 682 00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:42,692 I donated because that's the right thing to do. 683 00:33:42,735 --> 00:33:44,781 I owe Pastor Mike. I owe him. 684 00:33:44,824 --> 00:33:49,176 Well, isn't it possible that the man you say you owe 685 00:33:49,220 --> 00:33:51,265 turned you into a productive citizen 686 00:33:51,309 --> 00:33:54,355 in order to milk you of everything you earned? 687 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:57,228 No. Donating to your church is the right thing to do. 688 00:33:57,271 --> 00:33:59,273 Pastor Mike deserves every penny I gave him. 689 00:33:59,317 --> 00:34:01,188 Oh, you gave Pastor Mike your money? 690 00:34:01,232 --> 00:34:03,800 No, no, I meant I... I gave it to First Harm... 691 00:34:03,842 --> 00:34:05,671 this man is trying to fool me! 692 00:34:05,715 --> 00:34:07,412 No, sir. 693 00:34:07,454 --> 00:34:11,371 I am not the one fooling you. 694 00:34:11,416 --> 00:34:13,723 Nothing further. 695 00:34:19,816 --> 00:34:22,121 The parishioners who donated 696 00:34:22,166 --> 00:34:24,342 did so knowing that Pastor Mike was spending at least 697 00:34:24,385 --> 00:34:26,822 some of the money on himself. 698 00:34:26,866 --> 00:34:29,389 No one was threatened or coerced. 699 00:34:29,434 --> 00:34:33,786 They donated for inspiration, which is exactly what they got. 700 00:34:33,829 --> 00:34:39,009 Pastor Mike's success was a beacon to his parish, 701 00:34:39,052 --> 00:34:41,793 which is all that the prosperity gospel entails. 702 00:34:41,838 --> 00:34:44,144 You get the benefit of your bargain, 703 00:34:44,188 --> 00:34:47,713 it can't be fraud. 704 00:34:47,757 --> 00:34:50,803 Mr. Price? 705 00:34:50,847 --> 00:34:56,591 Fraud needn't be a function of deceit or coercion. 706 00:34:56,635 --> 00:34:58,289 It can also be manipulation 707 00:34:58,332 --> 00:35:00,900 by a person in a position of trust, 708 00:35:00,944 --> 00:35:04,817 such as a pastor who tells his flock 709 00:35:04,861 --> 00:35:08,168 that their relationship with God will be compromised 710 00:35:08,212 --> 00:35:11,345 if they don't give money to the church. 711 00:35:11,389 --> 00:35:13,870 These donations were part of a shameless money grab 712 00:35:13,913 --> 00:35:16,873 by a charismatic and manipulative figure 713 00:35:16,916 --> 00:35:19,745 in a position of control and power. 714 00:35:19,789 --> 00:35:23,575 The defendant concealed these cash contributions from the IRS 715 00:35:23,618 --> 00:35:25,577 and used the money he received 716 00:35:25,620 --> 00:35:28,058 to finance his opulent lifestyle. 717 00:35:28,101 --> 00:35:32,802 That is not religion. That's fraud. 718 00:35:40,722 --> 00:35:44,161 I agree with Mr. Price. 719 00:35:44,204 --> 00:35:48,905 And since the defense did not rebut his claims, 720 00:35:48,948 --> 00:35:52,299 I am vitiating the clergy privilege. 721 00:36:04,877 --> 00:36:07,880 Mr. Price. 722 00:36:07,924 --> 00:36:09,664 - Why you doing this? - Excuse me? 723 00:36:09,708 --> 00:36:11,841 Trying to destroy my church. 724 00:36:11,884 --> 00:36:14,321 No, I can assure you, that is not my objective. 725 00:36:14,365 --> 00:36:16,280 You're acting like we don't know what we're doing, 726 00:36:16,323 --> 00:36:18,586 that Pastor Mike is trying to defraud us. 727 00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:21,111 That's not what's going on here. 728 00:36:21,154 --> 00:36:23,761 We know what we're doing. We want to give him our money. 729 00:36:23,904 --> 00:36:27,465 That is your choice. I... I don't really care. 730 00:36:27,508 --> 00:36:29,641 I'm simply trying to present the facts to the jury 731 00:36:29,684 --> 00:36:31,556 so they know what really happened... 732 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,906 so they know who really killed Emily, your sister. 733 00:36:33,950 --> 00:36:35,603 I-I would've thought that's something 734 00:36:35,647 --> 00:36:36,778 you might be interested in as well. 735 00:36:36,922 --> 00:36:38,793 Don't do that. 736 00:36:38,837 --> 00:36:42,797 Don't you dare suggest that I don't love my sister Emily. 737 00:36:42,841 --> 00:36:46,018 I do. More than anything. 738 00:36:46,062 --> 00:36:47,193 But she's gone. 739 00:36:47,237 --> 00:36:49,195 Ain't nothing we can do about that. 740 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,588 And nothing you could do to convince me 741 00:36:50,631 --> 00:36:52,285 that Pastor Mike is involved. 742 00:36:52,329 --> 00:36:54,809 - I won't bother trying. - Wait, wait. 743 00:36:56,986 --> 00:37:00,511 I'm just scared. 744 00:37:00,554 --> 00:37:04,819 If you destroy Pastor Mike and my church... 745 00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:10,390 I'm left with absolutely nothing. 746 00:37:15,308 --> 00:37:17,180 Please. 747 00:37:31,150 --> 00:37:33,631 Pastor Mike Butler 748 00:37:33,674 --> 00:37:37,504 called you at 9:14 on the evening of Emily Wade's murder. 749 00:37:39,506 --> 00:37:42,379 - He did. - And what did he tell you? 750 00:37:49,299 --> 00:37:53,564 He told me he wanted to pray with me 751 00:37:53,607 --> 00:37:57,046 because he had transgressed. 752 00:38:00,527 --> 00:38:05,402 Did he tell you exactly what the transgression was? 753 00:38:05,445 --> 00:38:07,969 This is not right. 754 00:38:08,013 --> 00:38:10,929 That conversation was sacred. 755 00:38:10,972 --> 00:38:12,104 Pastor Bryant... 756 00:38:12,148 --> 00:38:15,238 Only God should know the contents. 757 00:38:15,281 --> 00:38:19,155 Will the court please instruct the witness to answer? 758 00:38:19,198 --> 00:38:21,896 Pastor Bryant, the court has ruled 759 00:38:21,940 --> 00:38:23,898 clergy privilege does not apply here. 760 00:38:23,942 --> 00:38:25,552 - Oh. - If you don't answer, 761 00:38:25,596 --> 00:38:27,206 I will have to hold you in contempt. 762 00:38:27,250 --> 00:38:28,947 Do you understand that? 763 00:38:32,733 --> 00:38:33,952 Yes. 764 00:38:33,995 --> 00:38:37,608 Ask your question again, Mr. Price. 765 00:38:37,651 --> 00:38:40,741 I'll make it a simple yes or no question. 766 00:38:40,785 --> 00:38:43,657 Did the defendant tell you 767 00:38:43,701 --> 00:38:47,966 that he had instructed Mr. Sherman to kill Emily Wade? 768 00:38:53,754 --> 00:38:55,104 Yes. 769 00:39:11,207 --> 00:39:14,471 Nothing further. 770 00:39:14,514 --> 00:39:16,734 Then we are adjourned for the day. 771 00:39:21,652 --> 00:39:23,697 Man one, 20 max. 772 00:39:23,741 --> 00:39:26,570 Murder two, 20 to life. 773 00:39:32,228 --> 00:39:35,100 I'll start drafting the plea agreement. 774 00:39:35,144 --> 00:39:39,060 I'll, um, talk to Emily's brother, 775 00:39:39,104 --> 00:39:41,454 let him know the case is over. 776 00:39:51,986 --> 00:39:53,423 Lonnie? 777 00:39:53,466 --> 00:39:56,469 It's Nolan Price from the DA's office. 778 00:39:58,384 --> 00:40:01,561 Hello, Lonnie? 779 00:40:13,138 --> 00:40:15,967 Oh, no. Lonnie? 780 00:40:16,010 --> 00:40:18,665 Lonnie. 781 00:40:18,709 --> 00:40:20,972 Lonnie? Lonnie? 782 00:40:21,015 --> 00:40:22,495 Lonnie? Oh, God. 783 00:40:26,499 --> 00:40:29,154 Yeah, I-I need an ambulance. 784 00:40:29,198 --> 00:40:31,591 435 Warshaw, Queens. Apartment 4B. 785 00:40:31,635 --> 00:40:34,333 He's overdosed. I need help right away. 786 00:40:36,117 --> 00:40:39,643 Lonnie? Lonnie, stay with me. 787 00:40:47,347 --> 00:40:52,347 - Synced and corrected by chamallow - - www.addic7ed.com - 59125

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