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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,243 --> 00:00:05,243 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org M_I_S_ForEver 2 00:00:54,336 --> 00:00:59,408 ♪ All around me are familiar faces ♪ 3 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,310 ♪ Worn out places ♪ 4 00:01:02,343 --> 00:01:06,181 ♪ Worn out faces ♪ 5 00:01:06,215 --> 00:01:11,420 ♪ Bright and early for their daily races ♪ 6 00:01:11,453 --> 00:01:17,760 ♪ Going nowhere, going nowhere ♪ 7 00:01:18,661 --> 00:01:23,366 ♪ Their tears are filling up their glasses ♪ 8 00:01:23,399 --> 00:01:30,272 ♪ No expression, no expression ♪ 9 00:01:30,306 --> 00:01:35,244 ♪ Hide my head I want to drown my sorrow ♪ 10 00:01:35,277 --> 00:01:42,185 ♪ No tomorrow, no tomorrow ♪ 11 00:01:42,218 --> 00:01:48,624 ♪ And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad ♪ 12 00:01:48,656 --> 00:01:54,629 ♪ The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had ♪ 13 00:01:54,662 --> 00:02:00,602 ♪ I find it hard to tell you I find it hard to take ♪ 14 00:02:00,635 --> 00:02:05,607 ♪ When people run in circles it's a very, very... ♪ 15 00:02:06,941 --> 00:02:10,813 ♪ Mad world ♪ 16 00:02:12,947 --> 00:02:16,753 ♪ Mad world ♪ 17 00:02:17,952 --> 00:02:23,458 ♪ Children waiting for the day they feel good ♪ 18 00:02:23,492 --> 00:02:26,462 ♪ Happy birthday ♪ 19 00:02:26,494 --> 00:02:29,932 ♪ Happy birthday ♪ 20 00:02:29,964 --> 00:02:35,438 ♪ Made to feel the way that every child should ♪ 21 00:02:35,470 --> 00:02:38,406 ♪ Sit and listen ♪ 22 00:02:38,439 --> 00:02:41,943 ♪ Sit and listen ♪ 23 00:02:41,976 --> 00:02:47,415 ♪ Went to school and I was very nervous ♪ 24 00:02:47,449 --> 00:02:50,452 ♪ No one knew me ♪ 25 00:02:50,486 --> 00:02:53,923 ♪ No one knew me ♪ 26 00:02:53,956 --> 00:02:59,462 ♪ Hello teacher tell me what's my lesson ♪ 27 00:02:59,494 --> 00:03:02,431 ♪ Look right through me ♪ 28 00:03:02,463 --> 00:03:06,001 ♪ Look right through me ♪ 29 00:03:06,035 --> 00:03:12,675 ♪ And I find it kind of funny and I find it kind of sad ♪ 30 00:03:12,707 --> 00:03:18,613 ♪ The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had ♪ 31 00:03:18,647 --> 00:03:21,851 ♪ I find it hard to tell you ♪ 32 00:03:21,884 --> 00:03:24,587 ♪ I find it hard to take ♪ 33 00:03:24,619 --> 00:03:30,558 ♪ When people run in circles it's a very, very... ♪ 34 00:03:30,592 --> 00:03:34,731 ♪ Mad world ♪ 35 00:03:36,765 --> 00:03:41,470 ♪ Mad world ♪ 36 00:03:42,938 --> 00:03:46,476 ♪ Mad world ♪ 37 00:03:48,944 --> 00:03:53,516 ♪ Mad world ♪ 38 00:06:47,989 --> 00:06:52,494 What I call the World Game now is an exercise 39 00:06:52,528 --> 00:06:55,730 that I have been following through for a great many years. 40 00:06:55,763 --> 00:06:57,566 Can you hear me in the back alright? 41 00:07:01,636 --> 00:07:05,708 And it started with my being in the United States Navy. 42 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:09,043 The time of World War One. At that time, 43 00:07:09,076 --> 00:07:13,715 the Navy's represented investment of all the science, 44 00:07:13,749 --> 00:07:15,885 all the chemistry, all the physics, all the mathematics 45 00:07:15,917 --> 00:07:18,187 known about our universe. 46 00:07:19,987 --> 00:07:21,990 And I was shocked that it was only going 47 00:07:22,023 --> 00:07:23,591 in this negative thing of killing. 48 00:07:38,674 --> 00:07:40,876 We have this extraordinary technology. 49 00:07:40,908 --> 00:07:43,111 Men would not doing anything with that kind of accuracy 50 00:07:43,145 --> 00:07:46,549 on the land in relation to try to make man a success. 51 00:07:46,581 --> 00:07:48,951 It became very quickly apparent that the fundamental 52 00:07:48,984 --> 00:07:51,086 raison d'etre in all of our state craft 53 00:07:51,119 --> 00:07:53,723 was based on Thomas Malthus. 54 00:07:54,756 --> 00:07:57,726 Now Thomas Malthus was the scientific servant 55 00:07:57,759 --> 00:08:00,261 of the masters of the earth of the time. 56 00:08:00,295 --> 00:08:04,098 He the first economist in the history of man to receive 57 00:08:04,131 --> 00:08:07,268 the total Vital Statistics from around the spherical earth 58 00:08:07,302 --> 00:08:10,638 and in 1800, he wrote his first book, 59 00:08:10,672 --> 00:08:13,275 which he said apparently man was reproducing himself 60 00:08:13,307 --> 00:08:15,843 much more rapidly than producing good to support himself. 61 00:08:15,876 --> 00:08:19,881 Therefore, very sad, but man is supposed to be a failure. 62 00:08:34,762 --> 00:08:36,732 Shall we inform the whole world, 63 00:08:36,765 --> 00:08:38,266 the whole world of that time being 64 00:08:38,300 --> 00:08:41,770 more than 90% illiterate and unable to then even read 65 00:08:41,803 --> 00:08:44,106 any information if it was sent to them. 66 00:08:44,139 --> 00:08:46,108 Should we try to inform the whole world? There is nowhere 67 00:08:46,141 --> 00:08:48,110 nearly enough to go around. If we divide up evenly 68 00:08:48,142 --> 00:08:49,911 all die slowly together. 69 00:08:50,878 --> 00:08:53,881 And that, that, that, that didn't seem logical to them at all. 70 00:08:53,915 --> 00:08:56,718 They said, "What we can do is a following: 71 00:08:56,751 --> 00:09:00,255 all these people out here are ignorant of what we know about 72 00:09:00,288 --> 00:09:03,692 and because they're ignorant, they think they have some hope. 73 00:09:03,724 --> 00:09:06,327 And we know they don't have hope most of them. 74 00:09:06,361 --> 00:09:10,099 Why, why eliminate their hope? They're going to die poor characters, 75 00:09:10,131 --> 00:09:13,035 and might as well let them die in ignorance." 76 00:09:13,068 --> 00:09:15,304 Ignorance and hope. 77 00:09:15,337 --> 00:09:17,106 This is the kindest thing to do. 78 00:09:17,139 --> 00:09:18,674 And that's exactly what they did do. 79 00:10:08,457 --> 00:10:09,357 How's it going? 80 00:10:10,925 --> 00:10:14,228 Everything seems to be on pace. But, you know, 81 00:10:14,261 --> 00:10:17,065 there's only so much we can be sure of since its theoretical. 82 00:10:21,435 --> 00:10:25,240 - Think it's going to work? - I have no idea. 83 00:10:28,142 --> 00:10:30,112 - Hey, any word about John yet? - Glad you asked, 84 00:10:30,145 --> 00:10:33,716 actually, yes, John just made the evening news. 85 00:10:34,750 --> 00:10:35,884 And it appears Simon 86 00:10:35,916 --> 00:10:37,452 wants to gloat about it. 87 00:10:49,830 --> 00:10:52,900 They call themselves Concordia, after the ancient Roman 88 00:10:52,934 --> 00:10:55,437 goddess of harmony. The pro-revolution hacktivist 89 00:10:55,469 --> 00:10:58,439 group world famous after a decade of subversion 90 00:10:58,473 --> 00:11:00,242 suffered a major blow this week. 91 00:11:00,275 --> 00:11:02,877 With the capture of leader John Taylor. 92 00:11:02,910 --> 00:11:05,113 Once a high-ranking military engineer, 93 00:11:05,146 --> 00:11:08,016 Taylor is being held in an undisclosed location 94 00:11:08,049 --> 00:11:10,151 by the UN's Global Security Agency. 95 00:11:10,184 --> 00:11:12,820 And with us to discuss is GSA director, 96 00:11:12,853 --> 00:11:14,288 General Simon Devoe. 97 00:11:14,322 --> 00:11:17,159 - Simon, thanks for being here. - My pleasure. 98 00:11:17,192 --> 00:11:19,061 So let's step back if you don't mind. 99 00:11:19,093 --> 00:11:20,762 Who are these people 100 00:11:20,795 --> 00:11:23,297 and how have they operated with such impunity 101 00:11:23,330 --> 00:11:25,266 after all these years? 102 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:28,270 Concordia was formed by a group of cyber warfare 103 00:11:28,303 --> 00:11:30,873 experts that defected from their military positions 104 00:11:30,905 --> 00:11:32,373 around 2050. 105 00:11:32,406 --> 00:11:34,075 And in the process, a great deal 106 00:11:34,108 --> 00:11:35,543 of classified information 107 00:11:35,577 --> 00:11:37,913 and advanced technologies were stolen. 108 00:11:37,945 --> 00:11:39,213 What kind of technologies? 109 00:11:39,247 --> 00:11:40,782 Mostly communications, 110 00:11:40,815 --> 00:11:43,084 cloaking, encryption, surveillance. 111 00:11:43,117 --> 00:11:45,052 Hence why they remain so elusive. 112 00:11:45,085 --> 00:11:48,089 But the GSA's core concern is the theft of some highly 113 00:11:48,122 --> 00:11:50,092 experimental warfare technology. 114 00:11:50,125 --> 00:11:51,927 Advancements in biochemistry 115 00:11:51,959 --> 00:11:55,096 and molecular science that have dramatic potential 116 00:11:55,130 --> 00:11:57,432 - for large-scale harm. - Aside from all the hacks, 117 00:11:57,464 --> 00:12:00,101 leaks and other things that have made them so famous. 118 00:12:00,135 --> 00:12:02,971 Yes, they certainly enjoy being disruptive. 119 00:12:03,003 --> 00:12:05,940 Disruptive indeed. Just last year they breached the accounts 120 00:12:05,973 --> 00:12:08,176 of the world's richest CEOs extracting almost 121 00:12:08,209 --> 00:12:09,977 two trillion dollars, moving that money 122 00:12:10,011 --> 00:12:13,081 into virtually traceless charity donations worldwide. 123 00:12:13,113 --> 00:12:15,550 Hmm! I tell you the warm fuzzy feeling I got 124 00:12:15,583 --> 00:12:17,386 from that one has yet to go away. 125 00:12:17,419 --> 00:12:18,953 Delicious. 126 00:12:18,987 --> 00:12:20,988 Before that were the notorious email leaks 127 00:12:21,021 --> 00:12:24,126 revealing major Wall Street firms had lobbied CIA, 128 00:12:24,159 --> 00:12:27,830 MI9 and Mossad to help gain monopoly control 129 00:12:27,862 --> 00:12:29,530 of rare earth metals in Asia. 130 00:12:29,564 --> 00:12:31,433 Yeah, too bad I didn't do a damn thing. 131 00:12:31,466 --> 00:12:33,602 Corporate terrorism just gets worse. 132 00:12:33,635 --> 00:12:36,071 Exposure media does very little these days. 133 00:12:36,103 --> 00:12:37,973 It just sets a tone. 134 00:12:38,006 --> 00:12:40,475 And in 2054 they jammed both Chinese 135 00:12:40,507 --> 00:12:44,078 and American defense systems during the Saudi Annex Crisis 136 00:12:44,112 --> 00:12:46,247 disabling thousands of warheads. 137 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,550 A move Concordian sympathizers claim 138 00:12:48,583 --> 00:12:50,552 might have stopped World War III. 139 00:12:50,584 --> 00:12:52,220 And speaking of sympathizers, 140 00:12:52,253 --> 00:12:53,588 what do you make of the support? 141 00:12:53,622 --> 00:12:56,024 Legions of followers worldwide. 142 00:12:56,056 --> 00:12:58,626 Troubling, but I get it. 143 00:12:58,660 --> 00:13:00,562 Lots of problems out there. 144 00:13:00,594 --> 00:13:04,065 The food, water crisis. Refugee migration. 145 00:13:04,098 --> 00:13:08,302 Automation-driven unemployment, serious ecological decline. 146 00:13:08,335 --> 00:13:11,639 I get it and it's natural to be angry, 147 00:13:11,673 --> 00:13:15,644 but anger doesn't solve problems or justify unlawful acts. 148 00:13:15,676 --> 00:13:20,014 This Robin Hood savior appeal of Concordia 149 00:13:20,048 --> 00:13:22,650 - is just an immature fad. - A passing trend? 150 00:13:22,684 --> 00:13:27,122 I think so. As cinematic as the idea is of Concordia, 151 00:13:27,155 --> 00:13:29,591 the radical yet benevolent protagonist, 152 00:13:29,623 --> 00:13:31,559 fighting for their utopian revolution 153 00:13:31,593 --> 00:13:34,195 against the evil establishment, 154 00:13:34,228 --> 00:13:38,266 last I checked this is reality not a movie. 155 00:13:41,069 --> 00:13:42,203 Seems that way. 156 00:13:46,308 --> 00:13:49,645 So I encourage people to regain trust in our time-tested 157 00:13:49,678 --> 00:13:51,947 institutions and democratic process. 158 00:13:51,979 --> 00:13:54,148 Not tear it all down as Concordia 159 00:13:54,181 --> 00:13:55,316 would like to see. 160 00:13:55,349 --> 00:13:56,918 Now, in regards to John Taylor. 161 00:13:56,952 --> 00:13:58,553 I understand you once worked together. 162 00:13:58,585 --> 00:14:00,521 Starting in Special Forces, yes. 163 00:14:00,554 --> 00:14:03,025 I even considered him a good friend at one time. 164 00:14:03,058 --> 00:14:06,662 Have you had contact with him since his capture? 165 00:14:06,694 --> 00:14:07,929 Not yet. 166 00:14:08,963 --> 00:14:11,532 But I must say I am very much looking forward 167 00:14:11,565 --> 00:14:14,502 to speaking with my old associate. 168 00:14:14,535 --> 00:14:16,304 So are we, Simon. 169 00:14:16,338 --> 00:14:18,406 Well, I wish I could be a fly on the wall for that. 170 00:14:18,439 --> 00:14:20,641 Thanks for being here, Simon, always a pleasure. 171 00:14:25,512 --> 00:14:27,248 So, can I get you anything before we get started? 172 00:14:27,281 --> 00:14:28,716 I think I'm good. 173 00:14:28,750 --> 00:14:31,553 Alright, feel free to take a seat. 174 00:14:31,585 --> 00:14:33,487 How we doing on tech? 175 00:14:33,521 --> 00:14:35,290 - Almost there? - All right. 176 00:14:35,323 --> 00:14:37,559 Well, let's, let's go ahead and roll for basic info 177 00:14:37,592 --> 00:14:40,429 and we'll, uh, we'll just, we'll tweak it as we go. 178 00:14:40,462 --> 00:14:42,698 - Sound. - Speed. 179 00:14:42,731 --> 00:14:44,433 And rolling. 180 00:14:44,466 --> 00:14:46,601 All right, so, please go ahead 181 00:14:46,633 --> 00:14:49,403 and introduce yourself and state your work. 182 00:14:49,436 --> 00:14:52,173 My name is Malikan Soyenka and I'm a professor of history 183 00:14:52,207 --> 00:14:53,742 at Columbia University. 184 00:14:53,775 --> 00:14:56,044 My specialty of interest surrounds what most historians 185 00:14:56,077 --> 00:14:58,347 call today the Great Transition. 186 00:14:58,380 --> 00:15:00,482 That period of time between the 21st 187 00:15:00,515 --> 00:15:03,218 and early 22nd century where global society 188 00:15:03,251 --> 00:15:06,188 underwent a rather spectacular social revolution. 189 00:15:06,221 --> 00:15:09,558 That's a good question. I guess time will tell. 190 00:15:09,591 --> 00:15:11,660 All right. Let's, let's inch into this. 191 00:15:11,693 --> 00:15:15,463 Please state your name, vocation and how you found 192 00:15:15,497 --> 00:15:17,366 interest in economics. 193 00:15:17,399 --> 00:15:19,333 I'm Cynthia Floris and I received 194 00:15:19,367 --> 00:15:23,070 an interdisciplinary degree in systems ecology and economics 195 00:15:23,103 --> 00:15:25,773 from the University of Cape Town, where I also now teach. 196 00:15:25,806 --> 00:15:28,009 I guess I would start by saying 197 00:15:28,043 --> 00:15:31,146 that I can't think of anything more relevant to the character 198 00:15:31,179 --> 00:15:33,714 of society than its economic foundation. 199 00:15:33,747 --> 00:15:35,783 Hello, I'm Aleniya Demir 200 00:15:35,817 --> 00:15:38,520 and I teach epidemiology at the University of Istanbul. 201 00:15:38,553 --> 00:15:41,523 Epidemiology is the study of public well-being 202 00:15:41,555 --> 00:15:45,126 or what one could call population level phenomena, 203 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,129 specifically the distribution of physical 204 00:15:47,161 --> 00:15:48,662 and mental health across society. 205 00:15:48,695 --> 00:15:51,599 With respect your documentary I would say 206 00:15:51,632 --> 00:15:54,069 the period before the Great Transition 207 00:15:54,102 --> 00:15:56,071 likely marked the most unhealthy 208 00:15:56,103 --> 00:15:58,172 and unstable period in human history. 209 00:15:58,205 --> 00:16:01,675 - So am I looking at you or the camera? - At me. 210 00:16:01,708 --> 00:16:03,712 - Got it. - Whenever you're ready. 211 00:16:05,079 --> 00:16:09,316 I'm Vivian Marcella and I'm a socio-cultural biologists. 212 00:16:09,349 --> 00:16:12,053 Which simply means I try to better understand 213 00:16:12,087 --> 00:16:14,256 the synergies that mold human behavior, 214 00:16:14,289 --> 00:16:16,124 and by extension culture. 215 00:16:16,156 --> 00:16:18,325 I joined the Center for Behavioral Studies 216 00:16:18,358 --> 00:16:22,263 in Oslo in 2115, and I continue to try 217 00:16:22,296 --> 00:16:25,633 to make sense of this lovable mess we call humanity. 218 00:16:34,809 --> 00:16:38,280 There's an exercise that I often do with my first-year students. 219 00:16:38,313 --> 00:16:40,749 I have them research mainstream economic publications 220 00:16:40,781 --> 00:16:43,451 from the 16th to the 21st century, 221 00:16:43,484 --> 00:16:46,754 trying to find any mention of basic sustainability principles. 222 00:16:46,788 --> 00:16:49,124 And each year the students come back stunned 223 00:16:49,156 --> 00:16:51,192 by how this period gave no priority 224 00:16:51,226 --> 00:16:53,662 to even the most obvious regenerative science. 225 00:16:53,694 --> 00:16:56,631 Let alone anything related to public health. 226 00:16:56,664 --> 00:16:58,867 Such things were considered external 227 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:00,602 to this contrived, competitive game 228 00:17:00,635 --> 00:17:02,636 they called business. 229 00:17:02,670 --> 00:17:05,740 Here you had an entire global civilization 230 00:17:05,772 --> 00:17:08,876 powering itself through the mechanism of consuming. 231 00:17:08,909 --> 00:17:11,612 That's literally what drove their economy as absurd 232 00:17:11,646 --> 00:17:14,249 as that sounds. And the more people bought 233 00:17:14,281 --> 00:17:16,417 and consumed, the more demand for jobs. 234 00:17:16,451 --> 00:17:18,886 Hence more circulating purchasing power 235 00:17:18,919 --> 00:17:21,489 to again be spent on consuming. 236 00:17:21,522 --> 00:17:24,192 Endlessly and viciously repeating. 237 00:17:24,224 --> 00:17:26,427 That was the economic system back then. 238 00:17:26,461 --> 00:17:28,663 And to think any part of that would be workable 239 00:17:28,695 --> 00:17:33,201 in the long run, on a finite planet, is pure lunacy. 240 00:17:33,233 --> 00:17:35,203 To make matters worse, the system was rooted 241 00:17:35,235 --> 00:17:38,639 in strategic human exploitation, which structurally ensured 242 00:17:38,673 --> 00:17:41,510 large wealth and power differences between groups, 243 00:17:41,542 --> 00:17:45,446 and the long term cultural result was very poor social integrity. 244 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:49,451 Racism, xenophobia, sexism and other forms of bigotry 245 00:17:49,483 --> 00:17:52,587 were an inevitable side effect of this kind of social system 246 00:17:52,619 --> 00:17:55,256 ultimately rooted in class stratification, 247 00:17:55,290 --> 00:17:58,593 otherwise known as socio-economic inequality. 248 00:17:58,626 --> 00:18:00,295 And when you put it all together, 249 00:18:00,328 --> 00:18:02,396 you realize a deep social pathology. 250 00:18:02,430 --> 00:18:05,667 A pathology that not only severely limited human potential, 251 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:09,237 actually bringing out the worst of our biological and social nature, 252 00:18:09,270 --> 00:18:12,473 but one that was blindly pushing civilization toward oblivion, 253 00:18:12,507 --> 00:18:14,476 due to accelerating ecological decline 254 00:18:14,509 --> 00:18:16,678 and systemic human conflict. 255 00:18:17,678 --> 00:18:19,613 By the time we reached the 21st century 256 00:18:19,646 --> 00:18:22,317 the consequences of all this weren't subtle. 257 00:18:22,349 --> 00:18:25,386 We're talking massive global inequity and poverty, 258 00:18:25,419 --> 00:18:28,622 relentless worldwide conflict, endless power abuses 259 00:18:28,655 --> 00:18:30,325 and systematic oppression, 260 00:18:30,357 --> 00:18:32,560 not to mention the near irreversible 261 00:18:32,594 --> 00:18:35,197 decline of all life support systems. 262 00:18:35,230 --> 00:18:37,531 And while it seems obvious to us today, 263 00:18:37,565 --> 00:18:39,868 you have to understand the kind of indoctrination 264 00:18:39,901 --> 00:18:41,403 that occurred back then. 265 00:18:41,435 --> 00:18:42,937 The culture was so conditioned 266 00:18:42,971 --> 00:18:44,638 by the dominant worldview, 267 00:18:44,672 --> 00:18:46,942 they just couldn't recognize the flaws inherent 268 00:18:46,974 --> 00:18:49,477 to the structure of their society. 269 00:18:50,377 --> 00:18:53,915 So by force of this, they engaged in very superficial activism 270 00:18:53,947 --> 00:18:56,984 centered around political institutions that really were 271 00:18:57,018 --> 00:18:58,953 just a parody of themselves. 272 00:19:00,288 --> 00:19:01,723 Attempts at social change 273 00:19:01,755 --> 00:19:03,557 were deeply fragmented in focus 274 00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:05,260 because people's understanding 275 00:19:05,292 --> 00:19:06,962 of cause and effect was so shallow. 276 00:19:06,994 --> 00:19:08,963 So the whole thing just became a spectacle. 277 00:19:08,996 --> 00:19:11,498 And endless blame game between groups. 278 00:19:11,531 --> 00:19:13,534 Their so-called democratic process 279 00:19:13,568 --> 00:19:16,637 centered not on actual policy, but around these political 280 00:19:16,671 --> 00:19:20,242 institutions that seemed to vaguely represent such policy. 281 00:19:20,274 --> 00:19:23,944 A true democracy as we now know allows for public consensus 282 00:19:23,978 --> 00:19:25,947 on actual issues not the appointment 283 00:19:25,980 --> 00:19:28,650 of representatives to make those decisions for them. 284 00:19:28,683 --> 00:19:30,751 That's not really democracy at all. 285 00:19:30,784 --> 00:19:33,921 That's simply a watered-down version of authoritarianism, 286 00:19:33,954 --> 00:19:35,691 voting for kings and queens. 287 00:19:36,624 --> 00:19:38,425 And to add insult to injury, 288 00:19:38,459 --> 00:19:40,828 because society was rooted in this business system 289 00:19:40,861 --> 00:19:44,365 of property and trade everything was for sale. 290 00:19:44,398 --> 00:19:47,434 People loved to argue about moral lines and ethics, 291 00:19:47,467 --> 00:19:50,471 but the fact was politicians, and hence policy, 292 00:19:50,504 --> 00:19:53,474 was just another commodity to be bought and sold. 293 00:19:53,508 --> 00:19:56,877 So inevitably those who did end up with true social power 294 00:19:56,911 --> 00:19:58,813 were the ones with the most wealth. 295 00:19:58,846 --> 00:20:00,749 That wasn't a corruption, 296 00:20:00,781 --> 00:20:03,018 that was simply the nature of the system. 297 00:20:04,049 --> 00:20:06,521 And needless to say this business power subculture 298 00:20:06,553 --> 00:20:09,623 was certainly the least likely to want to change the very system 299 00:20:09,656 --> 00:20:12,293 that had so disproportionately rewarded them. 300 00:20:13,528 --> 00:20:16,564 And as science and technology increased efficiency 301 00:20:16,597 --> 00:20:19,867 creating higher material standards of living in general 302 00:20:19,901 --> 00:20:23,471 the lack of human rights progress and the anti-democratic 303 00:20:23,503 --> 00:20:27,074 nature of society became increasingly masked. 304 00:20:27,107 --> 00:20:29,944 People's dignity and integrity were bought off 305 00:20:29,976 --> 00:20:32,880 by gadgets and toys and addictions. 306 00:20:32,914 --> 00:20:35,450 Feeding a materialist fetish 307 00:20:35,482 --> 00:20:37,618 that so distracted the minds of many. 308 00:20:38,653 --> 00:20:40,689 And you know, I often ponder all this, 309 00:20:40,722 --> 00:20:42,089 trying to put myself in the shoes 310 00:20:42,123 --> 00:20:44,025 of the average person back then, 311 00:20:44,058 --> 00:20:47,028 especially in the more affluent and highly unequal regions, 312 00:20:47,060 --> 00:20:49,630 such as the United States of America, 313 00:20:49,664 --> 00:20:51,633 and it really makes me shudder. 314 00:20:51,665 --> 00:20:54,903 People stuck in traffic, piling into these office prisons 315 00:20:54,935 --> 00:20:58,740 to push paper around, engaging meaningless occupations 316 00:20:58,772 --> 00:21:01,675 that wasted far more energy and wealth than they created 317 00:21:01,709 --> 00:21:04,546 so they can continue buying these things they don't need, 318 00:21:04,578 --> 00:21:07,514 elevating their artificial status and so on. 319 00:21:07,548 --> 00:21:09,550 It's like a bad horror movie. 320 00:25:07,120 --> 00:25:09,723 If there's any historical through-line that reveals 321 00:25:09,757 --> 00:25:12,626 how important a system-based worldview is, 322 00:25:12,659 --> 00:25:15,963 both in understanding society and knowing how to change it, 323 00:25:15,996 --> 00:25:18,999 it's a long history of slavery and human exploitation. 324 00:25:19,032 --> 00:25:22,203 You can't have a society that's based upon hierarchical power 325 00:25:22,235 --> 00:25:24,705 and specialized labor, where people are seen 326 00:25:24,739 --> 00:25:26,841 as economic tools to be used 327 00:25:26,874 --> 00:25:29,210 strategically for another's differential gain, 328 00:25:29,242 --> 00:25:32,746 and ever expect high moral integrity. 329 00:25:32,780 --> 00:25:35,849 Consider the function of cost efficiency. 330 00:25:35,883 --> 00:25:39,053 Cost efficiency is about trying to save money on production 331 00:25:39,086 --> 00:25:42,056 in order to maximize profit upon final sale. 332 00:25:42,088 --> 00:25:44,626 It's at the core of the basic gaming strategy 333 00:25:44,658 --> 00:25:46,793 that's required in market economics. 334 00:25:46,827 --> 00:25:50,397 And that simple incentive, the principle of seeking to reduce 335 00:25:50,431 --> 00:25:54,402 input costs to maximize output gains is at the root 336 00:25:54,434 --> 00:25:58,705 of thousands of years of human slavery in one form or another. 337 00:25:58,739 --> 00:26:01,876 Whether indentured servitude, bonded labor, 338 00:26:01,908 --> 00:26:05,146 chattel slavery in earlier times to human trafficking 339 00:26:05,178 --> 00:26:08,215 and debt driven wage slavery in more modern times. 340 00:26:09,149 --> 00:26:12,052 And the point to make here is that this kind of framework 341 00:26:12,086 --> 00:26:15,189 was so normalized by the turn of the 21st century, 342 00:26:15,222 --> 00:26:18,792 a period, by the way, that had more slaves in absolute numbers 343 00:26:18,826 --> 00:26:20,662 than any time in human history. 344 00:26:20,694 --> 00:26:23,330 The average person still didn't see the connection. 345 00:26:23,364 --> 00:26:27,135 They had been conditioned by these mythical free market ideas 346 00:26:27,167 --> 00:26:29,670 arguing that because people could now choose 347 00:26:29,703 --> 00:26:32,139 which area of the economy to submit their labor to, 348 00:26:32,173 --> 00:26:35,777 choose which company to be subordinated, or perhaps get the capital 349 00:26:35,809 --> 00:26:38,745 and start their own company and then choose who to exploit 350 00:26:38,779 --> 00:26:40,381 for their own personal advantage. 351 00:26:40,414 --> 00:26:43,017 Somehow coercion just no longer existed. 352 00:26:43,050 --> 00:26:44,819 That was the illusion. 353 00:26:44,851 --> 00:26:48,321 And any advanced technological society that evolves 354 00:26:48,355 --> 00:26:52,326 not to organize an effort to provide basic life support 355 00:26:52,358 --> 00:26:55,228 to its citizens allowing them to pursue their own interest 356 00:26:55,261 --> 00:26:58,832 on their own terms, instead structurally forcing 357 00:26:58,866 --> 00:27:02,436 everyone to fight with each other for basic survival, 358 00:27:02,470 --> 00:27:04,838 for not defendable reason mind you, 359 00:27:04,871 --> 00:27:07,240 is not a free society at all. 360 00:27:07,273 --> 00:27:09,710 It's a system of violence and oppression 361 00:27:09,743 --> 00:27:13,348 regardless of how materially wealthy that society may appear. 362 00:27:14,248 --> 00:27:17,419 Now, all that said, it's important to consider... 363 00:29:27,181 --> 00:29:29,450 You have meddled with the primal forces 364 00:29:29,482 --> 00:29:31,251 of nature, Mr. Beale. 365 00:29:34,221 --> 00:29:38,126 And you will atone. 366 00:29:41,595 --> 00:29:43,064 It's been a long time, Simon. 367 00:29:43,097 --> 00:29:44,598 So, the reason you're here with me 368 00:29:44,632 --> 00:29:47,435 and not in some vassal state being tortured 369 00:29:47,467 --> 00:29:50,337 is because the GSA needs your help. 370 00:29:50,370 --> 00:29:53,340 We're being overrun by a group of hackers and they appear to be 371 00:29:53,374 --> 00:29:56,277 advancing their abilities faster than we can counter. 372 00:29:56,309 --> 00:29:57,412 Orion. 373 00:29:59,012 --> 00:30:01,014 That's right. Orion. 374 00:30:01,048 --> 00:30:02,884 We have been tracking them for years. 375 00:30:02,916 --> 00:30:04,184 Luddite anarchists. 376 00:30:04,217 --> 00:30:05,452 They want to return civilization 377 00:30:05,485 --> 00:30:07,354 to the Stone Age. 378 00:30:07,387 --> 00:30:09,624 We figure if they continue their rate of progress, 379 00:30:09,656 --> 00:30:12,460 we only have a few weeks before they breach. 380 00:30:12,492 --> 00:30:15,128 - Taking control of our systems. - That'd be bad. 381 00:30:15,162 --> 00:30:18,266 Hence our priorities. As aggravating as your little 382 00:30:18,299 --> 00:30:22,237 Concordia project has been, you were never this distasteful. 383 00:30:23,303 --> 00:30:26,206 You do realize that even if Orion is stopped, 384 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,209 another insurgency, likely more malicious, 385 00:30:28,242 --> 00:30:29,911 is just around the corner, right? 386 00:30:31,444 --> 00:30:33,179 - Your point? - My point 387 00:30:33,213 --> 00:30:35,383 is one way to measure the integrity of a society 388 00:30:35,415 --> 00:30:37,451 is by how many outliers it creates. 389 00:30:37,483 --> 00:30:40,521 Violent criminals, inner-city gangs, serial killers, 390 00:30:40,553 --> 00:30:42,355 mass murderers, terrorists, 391 00:30:42,388 --> 00:30:45,959 to now this lovely hacker dystopia you've inspired. 392 00:30:45,992 --> 00:30:47,928 You have a systemic problem, Simon, 393 00:30:47,962 --> 00:30:49,430 and it's only going to grow. 394 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:52,666 You're looking through the wrong lens, John. 395 00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:54,936 And unlike the past, the outliers now 396 00:30:54,969 --> 00:30:56,971 have exponentially advancing technology. 397 00:30:57,003 --> 00:31:00,340 Some disgruntled kid fashioning a Molotov cocktail years ago, 398 00:31:00,374 --> 00:31:03,511 can now create weapons of mass destruction, or in this case weapons 399 00:31:03,543 --> 00:31:05,612 of mass disturbance with little more effort. 400 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,418 Again, you're looking through the wrong lens. 401 00:31:10,451 --> 00:31:13,087 No one ever said the natural course of humanity 402 00:31:13,119 --> 00:31:14,454 was going to be pretty. 403 00:31:14,488 --> 00:31:16,090 So it's natural for humanity to flirt 404 00:31:16,123 --> 00:31:19,093 with its own destruction? And increasingly so? 405 00:31:19,126 --> 00:31:20,929 Because that's where all this leads. 406 00:31:21,761 --> 00:31:25,465 Since the dawn of civilization, those with the most advanced 407 00:31:25,499 --> 00:31:28,269 tools are the ones who set the stage. 408 00:31:28,301 --> 00:31:31,638 From the rock, to the sword, to the gun, to the bomb, 409 00:31:31,672 --> 00:31:35,343 to AI, a sociological law of nature 410 00:31:35,376 --> 00:31:38,445 rooted in our evolutionary psychology. 411 00:31:38,479 --> 00:31:41,682 And if this race happens to lead to destruction, 412 00:31:41,714 --> 00:31:45,419 well, such is the natural course. 413 00:31:46,453 --> 00:31:49,557 Only human conceit assumes otherwise. 414 00:31:54,060 --> 00:31:56,230 I see you haven't lost that charming nihilism. 415 00:31:57,196 --> 00:31:58,632 - Drink? - No. 416 00:32:00,334 --> 00:32:04,105 And it's not nihilism, John, it's realism. 417 00:32:05,239 --> 00:32:08,242 Conflict is what makes the world go round. 418 00:32:09,475 --> 00:32:12,981 And whomever wins defines the course. 419 00:32:23,257 --> 00:32:24,692 - So what's the deal? - The deal is 420 00:32:24,724 --> 00:32:27,293 you help us tame the barbarians at the gate 421 00:32:27,327 --> 00:32:30,297 along with anything else we ask. 422 00:32:30,329 --> 00:32:32,133 In return, 423 00:32:32,165 --> 00:32:35,101 you'll be granted a decent life here. 424 00:32:35,135 --> 00:32:36,771 This ship might be a place of work, 425 00:32:36,803 --> 00:32:39,607 but it's also a self-contained city. 426 00:32:40,674 --> 00:32:45,078 We go back a long way, John, and despite our differences, 427 00:32:45,111 --> 00:32:47,747 I would hate to see that genius go to waste. 428 00:32:47,780 --> 00:32:48,782 And if I don't? 429 00:32:50,283 --> 00:32:52,619 You know the answer to that. 430 00:32:52,653 --> 00:32:55,756 Aside from this possible Orion catastrophe, 431 00:32:55,789 --> 00:32:58,526 which I doubt your humanist ego would allow, 432 00:32:59,693 --> 00:33:02,530 you'll be turned over to interrogation 433 00:33:02,562 --> 00:33:05,232 and it won't be cinematic. 434 00:33:06,332 --> 00:33:10,070 Either way, you're not leaving this ship. 435 00:33:12,572 --> 00:33:15,475 Okay, Simon, but I have one condition. 436 00:33:16,542 --> 00:33:19,079 I want you to put an end to program UX83. 437 00:33:20,547 --> 00:33:22,650 Otherwise known as the Malthusian Mandate. 438 00:33:28,355 --> 00:33:30,491 If you knew about the Mandate, 439 00:33:30,523 --> 00:33:32,525 why hasn't Concordia leaked it? 440 00:33:32,559 --> 00:33:34,528 Never had a complete picture. 441 00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:37,598 - And what do you think you're missing? - Good question. 442 00:33:37,630 --> 00:33:39,632 We find a cryptically mentioned in documents 443 00:33:39,665 --> 00:33:41,769 related to the GSA's control programs. 444 00:33:42,668 --> 00:33:44,571 It appears the Mandate was employed in the death 445 00:33:44,605 --> 00:33:47,374 of at least 20 million last year alone. 446 00:33:47,406 --> 00:33:49,676 How this is occurring and why is not clear. 447 00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:52,346 So why don't you enlighten me? 448 00:36:19,526 --> 00:36:22,796 So you wrote a book called The Neolithic Maladaptation 449 00:36:22,828 --> 00:36:25,265 which focuses on the nature of culture 450 00:36:25,298 --> 00:36:27,967 before the Great Transition. 451 00:36:28,001 --> 00:36:31,671 Can you clarify what you meant by this title? 452 00:36:31,705 --> 00:36:35,776 Sure. So I think the defining question of civilization 453 00:36:35,809 --> 00:36:39,479 is what characteristics enable us to survive and prosper 454 00:36:39,513 --> 00:36:42,383 sustainably and peacefully over generational time. 455 00:36:43,450 --> 00:36:46,419 Thousands of years ago, upon the advent of agriculture, 456 00:36:46,452 --> 00:36:49,389 the Neolithic Revolution, we found ourselves 457 00:36:49,423 --> 00:36:52,325 in a new social arrangement, a new structure, 458 00:36:52,359 --> 00:36:55,529 one that would later prove to be highly incompatible. 459 00:36:55,562 --> 00:36:57,731 Not only incompatible with the habitat, 460 00:36:57,763 --> 00:36:59,767 inherently unsustainable since the economy 461 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,303 literally required consumption and growth, 462 00:37:02,336 --> 00:37:05,571 but also incompatible with our very social nature. 463 00:37:05,604 --> 00:37:09,776 And, long story short, humans are simply not meant to exist 464 00:37:09,810 --> 00:37:12,346 in an economically stratified society 465 00:37:12,379 --> 00:37:15,582 if the expectation is high levels of public health 466 00:37:15,615 --> 00:37:17,417 and peaceful coexistence. 467 00:37:17,450 --> 00:37:19,586 It's always interesting to review the work 468 00:37:19,618 --> 00:37:22,655 of mainstream scientists at the turn of the 21st century 469 00:37:22,689 --> 00:37:24,992 as they desperately try to convince themselves 470 00:37:25,024 --> 00:37:26,926 that a competitive, exploitative, 471 00:37:26,959 --> 00:37:30,463 vainly status seeking mindset was an inalterable expression 472 00:37:30,497 --> 00:37:33,500 of human nature, when the fact is our genes, 473 00:37:33,533 --> 00:37:36,002 our biology and how the environment interacts 474 00:37:36,035 --> 00:37:40,540 with our evolved selves allows for a vast range of orientations 475 00:37:40,573 --> 00:37:44,644 with narrow self-interest, greed, merely part of that range. 476 00:37:44,678 --> 00:37:47,948 If we've proven to be anything, it's adaptable. 477 00:37:47,981 --> 00:37:49,917 There's certainly no blank slate. 478 00:37:49,950 --> 00:37:52,618 We're not infinitely malleable, 479 00:37:52,651 --> 00:37:55,054 but it has been grossly underestimated historically 480 00:37:55,088 --> 00:37:57,591 just how wide our range of adaptive 481 00:37:57,624 --> 00:38:00,694 potential really is. And what most determines 482 00:38:00,727 --> 00:38:04,131 which behavioral traits will define a society's culture 483 00:38:04,164 --> 00:38:06,100 is its social structure. 484 00:38:06,133 --> 00:38:10,136 Or more specifically, that structure's economic basis. 485 00:38:10,169 --> 00:38:13,072 The method by which we must survive. 486 00:38:13,106 --> 00:38:15,975 If that structure rewards competition, dominance, 487 00:38:16,008 --> 00:38:18,444 and narrow self-interest, then the culture 488 00:38:18,477 --> 00:38:21,013 will predominantly express those values. 489 00:38:21,046 --> 00:38:25,385 If it rewards collaboration, empathy and pro-social concern, 490 00:38:25,419 --> 00:38:29,690 the resulting culture will predominantly express those values. 491 00:38:29,722 --> 00:38:31,624 For the majority of human history, 492 00:38:31,658 --> 00:38:33,827 before the advent of agriculture, 493 00:38:33,859 --> 00:38:35,662 We lived in non-hierarchical, 494 00:38:35,694 --> 00:38:37,798 non-competitive social arrangements. 495 00:38:37,830 --> 00:38:40,700 Why? Because the economic basis of survival 496 00:38:40,734 --> 00:38:42,636 actually incentivized 497 00:38:42,669 --> 00:38:45,373 sharing and collaboration, and not the opposite. 498 00:38:46,472 --> 00:38:49,575 So what I mean by maladaptation is while humanity 499 00:38:49,609 --> 00:38:52,045 did successfully adapt to the survival requisites 500 00:38:52,077 --> 00:38:53,880 born from the Neolithic Revolution, 501 00:38:53,914 --> 00:38:55,649 the resulting social structure, 502 00:38:55,682 --> 00:38:58,819 the system that became codified, proved maladapted. 503 00:38:58,852 --> 00:39:01,655 The economic system was simply incompatible 504 00:39:01,687 --> 00:39:05,758 with what was required for humanity to be sustainable in the long-term. 505 00:39:05,792 --> 00:39:08,796 Failing our need to integrate properly with the ecosystem 506 00:39:08,828 --> 00:39:12,999 while limiting our ability to coexist peacefully with each other. 507 00:39:13,033 --> 00:39:15,669 And by the time of the Industrial Revolution 508 00:39:15,702 --> 00:39:18,037 in the 19th century, these flaws were rapidly 509 00:39:18,071 --> 00:39:19,873 coming to the surface. 510 00:39:19,906 --> 00:39:22,476 Conditions had changed and if it wasn't for our dramatic 511 00:39:22,508 --> 00:39:24,744 transformation to break out of that system, 512 00:39:24,778 --> 00:39:27,714 there is little question, society would have seen total 513 00:39:27,747 --> 00:39:31,018 ecologically collapse combined with catastrophic global war. 514 00:39:33,153 --> 00:39:35,656 So it must be difficult to look back 515 00:39:35,689 --> 00:39:37,790 at that time given what we know now. 516 00:39:37,823 --> 00:39:40,493 It seems like things should have changed much sooner, right? 517 00:39:40,526 --> 00:39:43,563 Sure, but it reveals that as much as we'd like 518 00:39:43,597 --> 00:39:46,098 to believe we're rational, objective beings, 519 00:39:46,131 --> 00:39:49,970 we're actually bound by deep social vulnerability. 520 00:39:50,002 --> 00:39:53,540 We are social beings first and intellectual beings second. 521 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:57,210 What you see back then is a kind of mass hypnosis 522 00:39:57,243 --> 00:39:59,078 that paralyzed society, 523 00:39:59,111 --> 00:40:01,581 keeping people short-sighted and fearful, 524 00:40:01,615 --> 00:40:04,051 prone to conform to the values and practices of those 525 00:40:04,084 --> 00:40:07,553 who happen to be winning in the contrived economic game. 526 00:40:07,586 --> 00:40:10,723 One glance at the media from back then gives it all away. 527 00:40:10,756 --> 00:40:13,260 Status posturing, people obsessed with appearing 528 00:40:13,292 --> 00:40:17,164 affluent, accomplished, loved, famous, beautiful. 529 00:40:17,196 --> 00:40:20,767 All a kind of pathological emulation of those of high 530 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,138 socioeconomic status, billionaires, celebrities. 531 00:40:25,171 --> 00:40:27,675 As one notable philosopher stated long ago, 532 00:40:34,247 --> 00:40:36,984 So once again it all begs the question, 533 00:40:37,017 --> 00:40:40,053 what actually defines success in the human condition? 534 00:40:40,086 --> 00:40:43,223 What kind of culture is most optimized to sustain itself 535 00:40:43,256 --> 00:40:46,593 over time while, of course, being happy and stable? 536 00:40:46,626 --> 00:40:48,194 And while there's plenty to learn, 537 00:40:48,227 --> 00:40:50,630 we do know what doesn't define it: 538 00:40:50,664 --> 00:40:54,001 the excessive materialistic wealth and status driven neurosis 539 00:40:54,033 --> 00:40:57,236 so characteristic back then has literally zero 540 00:40:57,269 --> 00:40:59,705 positive relationship to long-term species 541 00:40:59,738 --> 00:41:02,943 sustainability and optimized public health. 542 00:41:02,975 --> 00:41:05,845 In short, the values were dead wrong. 543 00:41:05,879 --> 00:41:08,982 And not to sound mean, but if I were to resort to derisive 544 00:41:09,015 --> 00:41:11,752 status labeling, common to that period of time, 545 00:41:11,785 --> 00:41:14,721 there's no question that the greatest failures 546 00:41:14,754 --> 00:41:18,025 were the ones who own mansions, drove over priced cars, 547 00:41:18,057 --> 00:41:21,794 wore luxury jewelry, maintained extremely lucrative 548 00:41:21,827 --> 00:41:24,063 yet completely meaningless occupations 549 00:41:24,097 --> 00:41:26,232 while hoarding great wealth. 550 00:41:26,265 --> 00:41:28,001 What kind of sad, insecure creature 551 00:41:28,033 --> 00:41:29,903 needs to flaunt such excess 552 00:41:29,935 --> 00:41:33,640 clearly signaling opposition to other people's well-being? 553 00:41:33,673 --> 00:41:37,310 True success is reinforcing harmony, balance. 554 00:41:37,343 --> 00:41:40,046 The goal is not necessarily to become something, 555 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,150 but to find out who and what you truly are. 556 00:41:43,182 --> 00:41:45,184 And how you fit inside the ecosystem 557 00:41:45,218 --> 00:41:47,287 of nature that gave birth to you. 558 00:41:47,319 --> 00:41:50,356 The most successful people, the true winners, 559 00:41:50,390 --> 00:41:54,995 are never the ones striving for celebrity and material excess, 560 00:41:55,028 --> 00:41:58,865 they are the humble minimalists valuing how they can contribute 561 00:41:58,897 --> 00:42:01,934 to the well-being and health of everything, 562 00:42:01,968 --> 00:42:04,905 realizing the world is one system, 563 00:42:04,937 --> 00:42:07,374 and the more they optimize that contribution, 564 00:42:07,406 --> 00:42:11,111 the more truly successful they actually become. 565 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,982 When I look back on all this, 566 00:42:16,015 --> 00:42:18,082 I think what I find most tragic 567 00:42:18,084 --> 00:42:20,953 is the spiritual loss of the individual. 568 00:42:20,986 --> 00:42:25,124 How people were fundamentally alienated from themselves 569 00:42:25,158 --> 00:42:29,162 their identities hijacked by competitive insecurity, 570 00:42:29,194 --> 00:42:32,198 trying to conform to some acceptable profile 571 00:42:32,231 --> 00:42:34,734 that would serve their advantage best, 572 00:42:34,767 --> 00:42:36,302 not who they actually are, 573 00:42:36,336 --> 00:42:38,939 but what the system requires them to become. 574 00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:10,497 The soul selects her own society. 575 00:44:10,530 --> 00:44:13,934 Then shuts the door to her divine majority. 576 00:44:13,966 --> 00:44:17,269 Present no more. Unmoved. 577 00:44:17,303 --> 00:44:21,040 She notes the chariots pausing at her low gate. 578 00:44:21,073 --> 00:44:24,343 Unmoved. An emperor be kneeling upon her mat. 579 00:44:24,377 --> 00:44:29,316 I've known her from an ample nation. Choose one. 580 00:44:29,348 --> 00:44:33,352 Then close the valves of her attention. Like stone. 581 00:46:53,191 --> 00:46:54,560 Let me ask you, John. 582 00:46:55,495 --> 00:46:57,197 What do you think the greatest form 583 00:46:57,229 --> 00:47:01,333 of social control is? Law? Debt? 584 00:47:01,367 --> 00:47:03,535 Religion. 585 00:47:03,568 --> 00:47:06,538 And this has what to do with the Malthusian Mandate? 586 00:47:06,571 --> 00:47:09,943 - Humor me. - I don't know. 587 00:47:09,975 --> 00:47:13,178 How about socialization? People policing each other. 588 00:47:13,211 --> 00:47:16,949 A properly tuned culture does regulate itself, yes. 589 00:47:16,982 --> 00:47:18,551 We've had the same training, Simon. 590 00:47:18,584 --> 00:47:20,654 I'm just as aware of what shapes psychology as you are. 591 00:47:20,687 --> 00:47:23,490 Yeah, see, I'm not so sure. 592 00:47:23,522 --> 00:47:25,392 I don't think we'd be in this situation 593 00:47:25,425 --> 00:47:27,327 - if that was really the case. - You mean because I actually 594 00:47:27,359 --> 00:47:28,461 believe the world can change? 595 00:47:33,098 --> 00:47:35,702 A child's born biologically programmed 596 00:47:35,734 --> 00:47:38,070 to adapt to its environment. 597 00:47:38,104 --> 00:47:40,372 It grows, inching through formative years, 598 00:47:40,406 --> 00:47:43,310 shaped by the traditions and beliefs of culture. 599 00:47:43,343 --> 00:47:46,078 Institutional education introduces structure 600 00:47:46,111 --> 00:47:50,149 creating comfort with authority, regimentation, status. 601 00:47:50,182 --> 00:47:53,552 - Nurturing social schema. - And a fundamental insecurity 602 00:47:53,586 --> 00:47:56,323 forged by a deeply unequal world, 603 00:47:56,356 --> 00:47:58,191 a world of sanctioned indifference, 604 00:47:58,223 --> 00:47:59,492 where compassion is weakness 605 00:47:59,524 --> 00:48:01,560 and domination is virtuous. 606 00:48:01,593 --> 00:48:04,030 What survival requires. 607 00:48:04,763 --> 00:48:07,200 In the current arrangement, sure. 608 00:48:07,232 --> 00:48:09,970 And this early sense of insecurity has a unique effect. 609 00:48:10,002 --> 00:48:13,305 Once childish tendencies we humans are supposed to grow out of: 610 00:48:13,339 --> 00:48:16,977 attention-seeking, spoiled self-interest, manipulativeness, 611 00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:20,046 bullying, competition become ingrained. 612 00:48:20,078 --> 00:48:21,747 Maturity stunted. 613 00:48:21,781 --> 00:48:23,717 Setting the stage for yet another disciple 614 00:48:23,749 --> 00:48:26,151 in the cult of narcissistic individualism. 615 00:48:26,185 --> 00:48:28,655 Poetic. 616 00:48:29,789 --> 00:48:31,658 By the time higher education is reached, 617 00:48:31,691 --> 00:48:35,028 formalized academia, the stronghold of the status quo, 618 00:48:35,060 --> 00:48:36,997 what natural curiosity may remain 619 00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:39,598 is now further constrained by socialization. 620 00:48:39,631 --> 00:48:43,470 Myopic focus, detached from the pursuit of knowledge, 621 00:48:43,502 --> 00:48:46,606 existing only for the sake of commercial utility. 622 00:48:46,638 --> 00:48:50,676 - To define their product. - And ultimately their identity. 623 00:48:50,709 --> 00:48:53,146 Becoming little more than yet another agent of trade. 624 00:48:53,178 --> 00:48:56,383 A civilization reduced to the goal of endless striving. 625 00:48:56,415 --> 00:48:58,417 To sell something to someone else. 626 00:49:00,752 --> 00:49:03,622 The world is a business, Mr. Beale. 627 00:49:05,258 --> 00:49:06,359 So the cog turns. 628 00:49:07,727 --> 00:49:10,597 While in those fleeting moments economic stress does subside, 629 00:49:10,629 --> 00:49:12,499 when the shackles do come off, 630 00:49:12,531 --> 00:49:14,667 existential turbulence blooms, 631 00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:17,169 as they desperately search for some kind of deeper meaning 632 00:49:17,202 --> 00:49:20,072 in the daily grind. And this emotional void, 633 00:49:20,106 --> 00:49:23,276 this state of loss, leads the pathological escapism. 634 00:49:23,309 --> 00:49:25,611 Distraction and self-medication become the hobby. 635 00:49:26,646 --> 00:49:28,781 So they turn to their screens 636 00:49:28,814 --> 00:49:32,251 windows of projected normality equating freedom 637 00:49:32,285 --> 00:49:34,453 with the unattainable delusions 638 00:49:34,486 --> 00:49:36,488 of wealth, fame, honor. 639 00:49:36,522 --> 00:49:38,290 While constantly being reminded that they are 640 00:49:38,323 --> 00:49:40,193 the authors of their own misery 641 00:49:40,225 --> 00:49:43,363 and success can only be a matter of winning versus losing. 642 00:49:43,396 --> 00:49:47,167 Since the vast majority will no doubt lose, they live vicariously. 643 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,236 If their sports team wins the game, so do they. 644 00:49:50,269 --> 00:49:51,805 If their country goes to war, 645 00:49:51,838 --> 00:49:54,339 they wave their flags as if they were at war. 646 00:49:54,372 --> 00:49:56,508 While following their celebrity heroes, 647 00:49:56,542 --> 00:50:00,080 feeling as though somehow that success mirrors their own. 648 00:50:00,113 --> 00:50:02,682 And when that doesn't work, they move inward, 649 00:50:02,714 --> 00:50:07,287 seeking self-help retreats, therapy, medication, illicit drugs. 650 00:50:07,319 --> 00:50:09,354 Anything to avoid the identity crisis. 651 00:50:11,624 --> 00:50:14,593 That the society they mirror just might be deeply flawed. 652 00:50:15,794 --> 00:50:17,729 So the masses remain complacent, 653 00:50:17,763 --> 00:50:20,266 short-sighted, bigoted, 654 00:50:20,298 --> 00:50:22,301 primitive, delusional. 655 00:50:23,202 --> 00:50:24,104 Manageable. 656 00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:30,476 No conspiracy required. 657 00:50:31,510 --> 00:50:34,446 Viable systems regulate themselves. 658 00:50:34,479 --> 00:50:37,684 Viable? You see all this as sustainable. 659 00:50:38,618 --> 00:50:41,287 No conspiracy required. 660 00:50:41,319 --> 00:50:44,423 - Viable systems regulate them... - We just picked up the signal. 661 00:50:48,693 --> 00:50:52,798 Now there's one thing you missed in your monologue there. 662 00:50:54,834 --> 00:50:58,571 Aside from primal provocation, keeping people half-conscious, 663 00:50:58,604 --> 00:51:01,774 trapped in lower brain fight or flight mode. 664 00:51:01,807 --> 00:51:04,711 Aside from the cultural hegemony where people's values 665 00:51:04,743 --> 00:51:08,548 and envies mirror those of wealth and power, 666 00:51:08,580 --> 00:51:10,550 reinforcing social order. 667 00:51:11,684 --> 00:51:14,553 And aside from the climate of opinion 668 00:51:14,586 --> 00:51:17,723 fostered by the acclaimed intelligentsia 669 00:51:17,756 --> 00:51:21,360 deciding the limits by which truth must conform 670 00:51:21,394 --> 00:51:23,796 the most critical mechanism here 671 00:51:23,828 --> 00:51:26,533 is that of social inclusion. 672 00:51:26,566 --> 00:51:29,368 Nature wired us with a strong tendency 673 00:51:29,401 --> 00:51:32,638 to override rational thought in favor of group acceptance. 674 00:51:32,671 --> 00:51:35,307 Part of our evolutionary fitness. 675 00:51:35,341 --> 00:51:37,911 And when people violate consensus 676 00:51:37,943 --> 00:51:40,612 the nervous system seeks to correct the behavior 677 00:51:40,646 --> 00:51:43,249 with pain and fear, as there's little more 678 00:51:43,281 --> 00:51:47,254 psychologically damaging than social exclusion. 679 00:51:49,222 --> 00:51:51,890 To be ostracized. Ridicule, stigma, 680 00:51:51,923 --> 00:51:55,727 loss of reputation which could also mean loss of employment, 681 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,297 income, lost and survival. 682 00:51:58,330 --> 00:52:01,200 Yet there's a long history of people who have moved against that tendency. 683 00:52:01,234 --> 00:52:03,569 A long history of very few people 684 00:52:03,602 --> 00:52:06,572 who inevitably turn into mere righteous symbols 685 00:52:06,606 --> 00:52:09,508 put on T-shirts rather than forces of revolution. 686 00:52:09,542 --> 00:52:12,511 So this Orion problem of yours isn't indicative of anything? 687 00:52:12,544 --> 00:52:15,747 Orion appears to be a fringe group of extremists 688 00:52:15,781 --> 00:52:18,318 with no public support. 689 00:52:18,350 --> 00:52:23,256 This is about normative culture, and my point, John, 690 00:52:24,256 --> 00:52:26,892 is that given our social nature, 691 00:52:26,926 --> 00:52:30,597 the stronger force here is not on the side of reason, 692 00:52:30,629 --> 00:52:34,566 it's on the side of inclusion and conformity, 693 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,739 and that, my friend, is the greatest form of social control 694 00:52:39,772 --> 00:52:42,575 and why the masses will never break out 695 00:52:42,607 --> 00:52:45,412 of its self-perpetuated oppression. 696 00:55:23,868 --> 00:55:25,905 ♪ Twenty-three I see come with me my dear ♪ 697 00:55:25,937 --> 00:55:28,474 ♪ It's time we re-examine this reality ♪ 698 00:56:36,175 --> 00:56:37,810 ♪ Be ready ♪ 699 00:56:37,843 --> 00:56:41,948 ♪ Welcome to the Freakshow, baby ♪ 700 00:56:41,981 --> 00:56:45,118 ♪ This is what it is ♪ 701 00:57:12,211 --> 00:57:14,613 ♪ So you see, 23 ♪ 702 00:57:42,841 --> 00:57:44,777 ♪ And the cast is currently stocked ♪ 703 00:57:44,810 --> 00:57:46,746 ♪ But we'll let you know if we need another floor ♪ 704 00:57:46,778 --> 00:57:48,146 ♪ To be mopped ♪ 705 00:57:55,754 --> 00:57:58,190 So earlier something was said to the effect 706 00:57:58,222 --> 00:58:00,258 that humans are not designed to exist 707 00:58:00,292 --> 00:58:03,896 in an economically stratified society. 708 00:58:03,928 --> 00:58:05,764 So to speak, yes. 709 00:58:05,798 --> 00:58:09,001 A stratified society is far more unhealthy and unstable 710 00:58:09,033 --> 00:58:11,136 when compared to an egalitarian one. 711 00:58:11,169 --> 00:58:13,673 That seems like a pretty bold conclusion. 712 00:58:13,705 --> 00:58:16,341 - Can you elaborate? - Sure. 713 00:58:16,374 --> 00:58:20,312 Consider our biology, specifically the human brain. 714 00:58:20,345 --> 00:58:23,114 We're profoundly wired for social response. 715 00:58:23,147 --> 00:58:25,885 For instance, the same brain centers that react 716 00:58:25,917 --> 00:58:28,887 to physical pain also react to emotional pain, 717 00:58:28,921 --> 00:58:32,692 such as feeling rejected, excluded or shamed. 718 00:58:32,725 --> 00:58:35,328 In early life, socially isolated infants, 719 00:58:35,361 --> 00:58:37,597 not receiving proper affection will fail 720 00:58:37,629 --> 00:58:39,832 to produce critical growth hormones, 721 00:58:39,865 --> 00:58:41,334 harming development. 722 00:58:41,367 --> 00:58:44,703 While in adulthood similar effects occur. 723 00:58:44,736 --> 00:58:48,006 For example, there were these dehumanizing institutions 724 00:58:48,039 --> 00:58:50,075 called prisons and they practiced 725 00:58:50,109 --> 00:58:53,613 solitary confinement, severe social isolation, 726 00:58:53,646 --> 00:58:56,281 and that practice literally caused brain damage. 727 00:58:57,249 --> 00:58:59,919 Now, what do these examples have in common? 728 00:58:59,952 --> 00:59:03,923 They are negative responses to social related stress. 729 00:59:03,955 --> 00:59:06,057 And when you review the past 200 years, 730 00:59:06,091 --> 00:59:08,694 of epidemiological study on the issue, 731 00:59:08,727 --> 00:59:11,763 you realize that an economically stratified society 732 00:59:11,796 --> 00:59:14,399 is one of the most toxically stressful conditions 733 00:59:14,432 --> 00:59:17,135 you could ever impose upon the human species. 734 00:59:18,037 --> 00:59:20,740 We've all learned about the horrors of abject poverty. 735 00:59:20,772 --> 00:59:22,374 A condition that affected a billion people 736 00:59:22,408 --> 00:59:24,377 at the turn of the 21st century, 737 00:59:24,410 --> 00:59:27,178 causing literally millions of deaths each year. 738 00:59:27,211 --> 00:59:30,248 But the negative effects of economic stratification 739 00:59:30,281 --> 00:59:32,251 aren't limited to the distinctly poor. 740 00:59:32,283 --> 00:59:34,720 Inequality harms just about everyone. 741 00:59:34,752 --> 00:59:38,124 A kind of social pollution and the lower one finds themselves 742 00:59:38,156 --> 00:59:42,060 on the stratified ladder, the worse their health becomes on average. 743 00:59:42,093 --> 00:59:43,963 Consider a lower class mother 744 00:59:43,995 --> 00:59:47,432 working two jobs, in debt, can't afford a car, 745 00:59:47,466 --> 00:59:49,734 living paycheck to paycheck 746 00:59:49,767 --> 00:59:52,003 while trying to take care of her young child. 747 00:59:52,037 --> 00:59:54,839 They may not be homeless, starving or even poor 748 00:59:54,872 --> 00:59:56,274 by legal standards, 749 00:59:56,307 --> 00:59:57,842 but every day is still 750 00:59:57,876 --> 00:59:59,778 a battle to make ends meet. 751 00:59:59,812 --> 01:00:03,249 This is known as relative poverty or more formally 752 01:00:03,281 --> 01:00:06,051 low socioeconomic status. 753 01:00:06,084 --> 01:00:09,054 And a defining characteristic of this condition 754 01:00:09,088 --> 01:00:12,357 on average is high psychosocial stress, 755 01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:15,026 meaning stress related to social factors. 756 01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:18,764 This stress includes not only feelings of general insecurity, 757 01:00:18,796 --> 01:00:20,800 such as worrying about paying your bills, 758 01:00:20,832 --> 01:00:24,869 affording your child's next doctor visit or losing your job, 759 01:00:24,903 --> 01:00:27,906 but also the stress of social status itself. 760 01:00:27,939 --> 01:00:31,743 How one feels about themselves compared to others. 761 01:00:31,776 --> 01:00:34,412 And while that particular aspect may seem trivial, 762 01:00:34,446 --> 01:00:37,415 the fact is our brains have evolved to react 763 01:00:37,448 --> 01:00:39,885 in profoundly specific ways when it comes 764 01:00:39,917 --> 01:00:42,354 to how we think others see us. 765 01:00:42,386 --> 01:00:46,859 We have an acute sensitivity to our perceived social status. 766 01:00:46,892 --> 01:00:48,894 In other words, it's not just about the stress 767 01:00:48,926 --> 01:00:51,062 of endless worry and the technical difficulty 768 01:00:51,095 --> 01:00:53,231 of being poor that's toxic. 769 01:00:53,265 --> 01:00:56,969 It's equally if not more about the stress of feeling poor. 770 01:00:57,002 --> 01:01:00,272 For example, studies have shown if you take people with the same 771 01:01:00,305 --> 01:01:01,874 equal access to free health care, 772 01:01:01,906 --> 01:01:03,876 controlling for lifestyle factors, 773 01:01:03,908 --> 01:01:05,877 you will still see, as you inch down 774 01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:08,347 the ladder of income and wealth, people's health getting 775 01:01:08,379 --> 01:01:10,816 progressively worse on average. 776 01:01:10,848 --> 01:01:13,051 The lower they are in the class hierarchy 777 01:01:13,084 --> 01:01:15,220 the sicker they become. 778 01:01:15,254 --> 01:01:16,856 One mechanism for this 779 01:01:16,888 --> 01:01:18,890 is that high psychological stress 780 01:01:18,923 --> 01:01:21,259 leads to a state of chronic inflammation 781 01:01:21,292 --> 01:01:24,497 and what's called an allostatic overload. 782 01:01:24,530 --> 01:01:27,932 Allostasis means your body's trying to recover from something 783 01:01:27,966 --> 01:01:30,502 working to return to a more balanced state. 784 01:01:30,535 --> 01:01:32,470 But it can't. And this causes 785 01:01:32,504 --> 01:01:35,473 the body and the mind to wear down rapidly. 786 01:01:35,506 --> 01:01:39,278 Living in relative poverty in all its day-to-day insecurity 787 01:01:39,310 --> 01:01:41,446 and feelings of low self-worth, 788 01:01:41,479 --> 01:01:45,150 keeps people psychologically locked in a stressful state. 789 01:01:45,184 --> 01:01:48,120 Ravaging mental and physical health. 790 01:01:48,153 --> 01:01:51,290 Consider heart disease. low socioeconomic status 791 01:01:51,323 --> 01:01:54,460 creates a 50% greater chance of its development. 792 01:01:54,493 --> 01:01:57,463 and not just because people may have poor lifestyle habits, 793 01:01:57,495 --> 01:02:00,398 but due to psychosocial stress itself, 794 01:02:00,432 --> 01:02:03,502 which increases the hormone cortisol, damaging arteries 795 01:02:03,535 --> 01:02:06,172 fostering strokes and heart attacks. 796 01:02:06,205 --> 01:02:09,408 Low socioeconomic status is a heart disease risk factor 797 01:02:09,441 --> 01:02:12,977 on its own, similar for diabetes and cancer 798 01:02:13,010 --> 01:02:16,080 with far higher rates for those relatively poor. 799 01:02:16,113 --> 01:02:20,586 As one study put it, "Poverty itself is a carcinogen." 800 01:02:20,618 --> 01:02:23,222 And given that heart disease diabetes and cancer 801 01:02:23,254 --> 01:02:26,090 were some of the leading causes of death in that highly unequal 802 01:02:26,124 --> 01:02:28,560 global society of the early 21st century, 803 01:02:28,593 --> 01:02:31,563 these facts help explain why life span gaps 804 01:02:31,597 --> 01:02:34,399 between the rich and the poor were shockingly wide. 805 01:02:34,432 --> 01:02:38,203 Ranging from 15 to 40 years depending on region. 806 01:02:38,236 --> 01:02:39,972 And then you have mental health. 807 01:02:40,004 --> 01:02:43,341 Low socioeconomic status fuels much higher instances 808 01:02:43,374 --> 01:02:45,877 of depression, anxiety disorders, 809 01:02:45,910 --> 01:02:48,146 schizophrenia, suicide, 810 01:02:48,180 --> 01:02:51,417 not to mention violence, including child abuse. 811 01:02:51,450 --> 01:02:53,953 The condition of poverty was found to be the leading 812 01:02:53,986 --> 01:02:57,256 predictor of child abuse, which is particularly troubling 813 01:02:57,289 --> 01:03:00,292 since such abuse often leads to adult disorders 814 01:03:00,325 --> 01:03:03,229 such as addictions, antisocial behavior, 815 01:03:03,261 --> 01:03:07,066 immune system problems, cognitive impairment. 816 01:03:07,098 --> 01:03:09,401 In fact, it was found that children simply living 817 01:03:09,434 --> 01:03:12,504 in the condition of poverty correlated to large decreases 818 01:03:12,537 --> 01:03:15,241 in IQ, decreased brain development, 819 01:03:15,274 --> 01:03:17,877 and worst overall, health throughout the life cycle. 820 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:19,578 Personally, I would argue that 821 01:03:19,611 --> 01:03:22,314 if child abuse is about negligence and harm, 822 01:03:22,347 --> 01:03:25,651 any society that tolerates the existence of poverty 823 01:03:25,684 --> 01:03:27,886 when it has the means to end it, 824 01:03:27,919 --> 01:03:30,889 is a society that is fundamentally abusive to children. 825 01:03:32,457 --> 01:03:37,328 Now, as far as behavioral violence in general, it's no surprise. 826 01:03:37,361 --> 01:03:40,298 The pre-transition period was saturated in it. 827 01:03:40,332 --> 01:03:44,103 The emotional pathogen behind most acts of violence is shame 828 01:03:44,135 --> 01:03:48,106 and inequality produces shame like a finely tuned machine. 829 01:03:48,140 --> 01:03:51,343 Shootings, gang violence, terrorism, 830 01:03:51,376 --> 01:03:55,214 domestic violence, all highly correlated to inequality, 831 01:03:55,247 --> 01:03:58,584 like a toxic cloud hovering over civilization. 832 01:03:58,617 --> 01:04:01,153 The more economically unequal a society, 833 01:04:01,185 --> 01:04:03,555 the more violent it tended to be on average. 834 01:04:03,588 --> 01:04:07,926 And that goes for most everything in terms of negative public health outcomes. 835 01:04:07,959 --> 01:04:11,463 With higher incidences of disease, crime, obesity, 836 01:04:11,495 --> 01:04:15,233 infant mortality, homicides, teen birth, mental illness, 837 01:04:15,267 --> 01:04:18,069 poor education, conflict, domestic abuse, 838 01:04:18,102 --> 01:04:20,972 illiteracy, suicide, premature mortality, 839 01:04:21,006 --> 01:04:24,310 overall mistrust and much more. 840 01:04:25,310 --> 01:04:29,615 There is no viable defense of its existence on any level 841 01:04:29,647 --> 01:04:31,383 and it's certainly not representative 842 01:04:31,415 --> 01:04:33,519 of a fixed human nature. 843 01:04:33,551 --> 01:04:37,622 Humans are basically allergic to socio-economic stratification. 844 01:06:52,124 --> 01:06:54,158 What are you doing? Come on! 845 01:09:53,738 --> 01:09:56,441 So how's this supposed to happen exactly? 846 01:09:56,473 --> 01:09:57,943 I'm not sure. 847 01:09:57,976 --> 01:10:00,979 The satellite details we need are very specific. 848 01:10:01,012 --> 01:10:04,383 How John pulls this off is going to be interesting. 849 01:10:07,819 --> 01:10:10,022 Hey, where did you get the popcorn? 850 01:10:10,055 --> 01:10:11,890 Oh, I don't know. It was just here. 851 01:10:14,391 --> 01:10:15,560 Right. 852 01:10:17,329 --> 01:10:19,331 Are they still in debate mode? 853 01:10:19,364 --> 01:10:20,499 Listen for yourself. 854 01:10:24,002 --> 01:10:25,971 Hope you went to college. 855 01:10:26,003 --> 01:10:28,707 ...and why the masses will never break out 856 01:10:28,739 --> 01:10:31,876 of its self-perpetuated oppression. 857 01:10:33,677 --> 01:10:37,481 Historically observable. Biologically sound. 858 01:10:37,515 --> 01:10:39,618 And grossly exaggerated. 859 01:10:39,650 --> 01:10:43,020 While most may indeed be stuck in lower brain, limbic system reflexes, 860 01:10:43,053 --> 01:10:45,824 you underestimate the prefrontal cortex. 861 01:10:45,856 --> 01:10:48,493 Our ability to transcend primitive reactions. 862 01:10:48,525 --> 01:10:50,461 Whether you believe it or not, Simon, 863 01:10:50,494 --> 01:10:52,997 the activists of the world are slowly becoming more aware, 864 01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:56,435 - more focused. - Focused on what? 865 01:10:56,467 --> 01:10:57,868 The system? 866 01:10:57,901 --> 01:10:59,937 The origin of the social psychology that keeps 867 01:10:59,971 --> 01:11:01,640 those feedback loops of oppression going. 868 01:11:03,475 --> 01:11:06,544 Ah, so threat to the money God? 869 01:11:07,579 --> 01:11:09,381 If you want to be spooky about it, sure. 870 01:11:10,147 --> 01:11:13,385 The money God is eventually going to be overthrown. 871 01:11:13,418 --> 01:11:15,387 This age-old march toward increased the quality 872 01:11:15,419 --> 01:11:17,989 and human rights is now accelerating into new territory. 873 01:11:19,056 --> 01:11:21,525 And one way or another it's eventually going to arrive 874 01:11:21,559 --> 01:11:23,729 at the doorstep of the economy. 875 01:11:23,762 --> 01:11:25,497 And then what? 876 01:11:25,529 --> 01:11:28,833 You seem to be suffering from a kind of amnesia, John. 877 01:11:28,867 --> 01:11:30,901 That moment's long past. 878 01:11:30,935 --> 01:11:34,439 Immortalized by the failed Soviet experiment, 879 01:11:34,471 --> 01:11:36,941 a memory that's fostered an enduring boogeyman. 880 01:11:38,943 --> 01:11:43,382 Anyone today daring to suggest economic equality, 881 01:11:43,414 --> 01:11:45,684 which is what I assume you are getting at, 882 01:11:45,717 --> 01:11:48,820 as some final stage of human rights progress, 883 01:11:48,852 --> 01:11:52,490 will quickly be condemned as a freedom-hating socialist. 884 01:11:52,524 --> 01:11:56,528 Propaganda may be strong, but so are the mounting problems, 885 01:11:56,561 --> 01:11:58,964 problems that have no in system solution, 886 01:11:58,997 --> 01:12:02,401 - forcing people to think differently. - Such as? 887 01:12:02,434 --> 01:12:04,569 How about the collective insult that one percent of the world's 888 01:12:04,601 --> 01:12:07,138 population now owns 80% of the wealth? 889 01:12:07,172 --> 01:12:10,008 Or more importantly, that every life support system 890 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:14,078 continues to be in decline with now millions dislocated. 891 01:12:14,111 --> 01:12:16,914 Famines, wars, growing poverty. 892 01:12:16,948 --> 01:12:20,718 People will eventually realize the economic mechanisms behind this. 893 01:12:20,752 --> 01:12:24,823 Further opening the gate. Same for technological unemployment. 894 01:12:24,855 --> 01:12:27,591 Half of all jobs have already been automated. 895 01:12:27,624 --> 01:12:30,694 And while nations have compensated by giving basic income, 896 01:12:30,727 --> 01:12:32,730 the system contradiction is still clear. 897 01:12:32,763 --> 01:12:35,534 What happens when people realize this welfare program is really 898 01:12:35,566 --> 01:12:38,803 just an excuse to keep the labor system in place? 899 01:12:38,837 --> 01:12:41,406 Hence keeping the ruling class in place. 900 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:44,676 You assume too much, John. 901 01:12:44,708 --> 01:12:46,944 Three-quarters of the people on that planet, 902 01:12:46,977 --> 01:12:50,214 believe in supernatural beings that live in the sky 903 01:12:50,248 --> 01:12:52,217 affecting their lives. 904 01:12:52,249 --> 01:12:54,586 You're projecting your rare intelligence 905 01:12:54,619 --> 01:12:57,155 upon a sea of glorified savages. 906 01:12:57,187 --> 01:13:00,191 And if you think the activist community has anything 907 01:13:00,225 --> 01:13:04,596 in their toolkit to even approach system level change, 908 01:13:04,628 --> 01:13:06,864 you're not paying attention to their ignorance. 909 01:13:06,897 --> 01:13:08,867 You mean the spectacle? 910 01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:10,969 People piling into free speech zones, 911 01:13:11,002 --> 01:13:13,205 holding up signs, yelling at buildings, 912 01:13:13,238 --> 01:13:16,708 ranting on social media, creating political art, 913 01:13:16,740 --> 01:13:18,810 poetry, writing books... 914 01:13:20,211 --> 01:13:22,079 making movies. 915 01:13:22,113 --> 01:13:23,815 I agree it's mostly catharsis. 916 01:13:23,847 --> 01:13:25,749 It's a pressure release valve, 917 01:13:25,783 --> 01:13:27,718 easing periodic tension, 918 01:13:27,752 --> 01:13:30,589 making people feel like they're actually doing something. 919 01:13:31,623 --> 01:13:34,559 Aside, of course, from helping the economy, 920 01:13:34,592 --> 01:13:35,994 the anti-establishment market 921 01:13:36,026 --> 01:13:37,828 has been increasingly profitable. 922 01:13:37,861 --> 01:13:40,498 Yes. 923 01:13:40,531 --> 01:13:42,934 The anger dollar. If only such outrage 924 01:13:42,967 --> 01:13:45,036 could be packaged and traded on Wall Street, right? 925 01:13:45,069 --> 01:13:49,607 And then social change might have a chance. 926 01:13:59,150 --> 01:14:03,989 But catharsis aside, John, the real issue is hope. 927 01:14:04,021 --> 01:14:07,225 Activism today is a hope industry. 928 01:14:08,258 --> 01:14:10,928 Take Concordia. It's been irritating 929 01:14:10,962 --> 01:14:13,698 and I'm certainly bothered by the technology you have, 930 01:14:13,730 --> 01:14:16,834 but your actions have posed no true threat. 931 01:14:16,868 --> 01:14:21,006 What you do is give your millions of fans hope. 932 01:14:21,038 --> 01:14:24,575 And hope is a drug that subdues. 933 01:14:24,609 --> 01:14:27,579 So the long history of rights progress is meaningless? 934 01:14:27,611 --> 01:14:30,915 The abolition of slavery, women's liberation, 935 01:14:30,949 --> 01:14:35,053 child labor laws, unions, indigenous restitution, 936 01:14:35,086 --> 01:14:39,925 global decrees, LGBTQ equality, disability acts? 937 01:14:39,958 --> 01:14:42,727 All adaptations and accommodations. 938 01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:45,129 No threat to the system itself. 939 01:14:45,163 --> 01:14:47,098 Take abject slavery: 940 01:14:47,131 --> 01:14:48,800 the origins are clear. 941 01:14:48,833 --> 01:14:50,869 It was never about racism. 942 01:14:50,901 --> 01:14:52,570 It was about economic exploitation. 943 01:14:52,604 --> 01:14:54,806 Hence business as usual. 944 01:14:54,838 --> 01:14:57,274 And yet racism took the heat. 945 01:14:57,307 --> 01:15:00,078 The system connection goes unrecognized. 946 01:15:00,110 --> 01:15:02,279 Limits of debate. People have been conditioned 947 01:15:02,312 --> 01:15:04,882 to seek moral causes rather than structural ones. 948 01:15:04,915 --> 01:15:08,820 Which is exactly my point, they don't have the vocabulary. 949 01:15:08,852 --> 01:15:10,955 Nothing in their experience offers it. 950 01:15:10,989 --> 01:15:14,125 The average person engages six hours of media a day 951 01:15:14,158 --> 01:15:17,227 much of that news constantly reinforcing the status quo. 952 01:15:17,261 --> 01:15:21,098 I'm glad you brought that up. News is a business. 953 01:15:21,132 --> 01:15:24,269 And do you think that any for-profit institution is ever 954 01:15:24,302 --> 01:15:28,106 going to tolerate ideas that move against how it survives? 955 01:15:29,806 --> 01:15:31,876 The odds are stacked, John. 956 01:15:31,909 --> 01:15:34,779 The system protects itself on every level 957 01:15:34,811 --> 01:15:37,582 almost as if it were a living organism. 958 01:15:39,249 --> 01:15:42,119 But for argument's sake, 959 01:15:42,153 --> 01:15:45,690 let's assume a formidable movement existed. 960 01:15:45,722 --> 01:15:48,859 A united front to change the social structure. 961 01:15:48,892 --> 01:15:50,160 Then what? 962 01:15:50,194 --> 01:15:51,930 Does it play out on the stage 963 01:15:51,962 --> 01:15:53,397 of political theater? 964 01:15:53,431 --> 01:15:56,868 A stage owned and operated by business power? 965 01:15:56,900 --> 01:16:00,037 Part of the awakening. People are realizing their elected officials 966 01:16:00,070 --> 01:16:02,239 are structurally corrupted by default, 967 01:16:02,272 --> 01:16:03,941 regardless of intent. 968 01:16:03,975 --> 01:16:06,311 - Approaches will shift. - To what? 969 01:16:06,343 --> 01:16:09,279 Insurrection, violence, overthrow? 970 01:16:09,312 --> 01:16:11,048 A French Revolution? 971 01:16:11,082 --> 01:16:13,017 Possible, but certainly not inevitable. 972 01:16:13,051 --> 01:16:14,919 A critical mass large enough to stop 973 01:16:14,952 --> 01:16:16,855 the machine in its tracks is really all that it's needed. 974 01:16:16,887 --> 01:16:18,390 You remember George Orwell? 975 01:16:18,422 --> 01:16:20,791 - Of course. - He observed something 976 01:16:20,824 --> 01:16:22,860 interesting in this endless battle 977 01:16:22,894 --> 01:16:26,131 between the haves and the have nots. 978 01:16:26,163 --> 01:16:27,965 If it's true as you say, 979 01:16:27,998 --> 01:16:30,801 the masses are beginning to understand the system. 980 01:16:30,834 --> 01:16:32,203 Building force against it. 981 01:16:32,235 --> 01:16:34,439 You should also recognize 982 01:16:34,471 --> 01:16:36,874 that there's a natural counter-movement. 983 01:16:36,908 --> 01:16:39,778 The system defending itself once again. 984 01:16:40,477 --> 01:16:42,913 And every threat to its integrity, 985 01:16:42,946 --> 01:16:45,115 what you see as progress, 986 01:16:45,149 --> 01:16:47,986 will be twisted around and presented to the public 987 01:16:48,019 --> 01:16:50,388 as an attack on their way of life. 988 01:16:51,722 --> 01:16:54,158 Those outliers that you spoke of, 989 01:16:54,191 --> 01:16:57,428 the terrorists, gangs, criminals, mass murderers, 990 01:16:57,462 --> 01:17:00,932 insurgencies, hackers, the Orions. 991 01:17:00,964 --> 01:17:02,934 The Concordias. 992 01:17:02,967 --> 01:17:05,970 All empower the system in the end 993 01:17:06,003 --> 01:17:09,374 providing excuses to further tighten things down. 994 01:17:09,406 --> 01:17:11,943 More police, more prisons, 995 01:17:11,976 --> 01:17:15,080 more laws, more bombs, more surveillance. 996 01:17:16,180 --> 01:17:17,883 More control. 997 01:17:19,249 --> 01:17:23,954 Again, no conspiracy required. 998 01:17:24,855 --> 01:17:28,126 It's the masses themselves that push for this, 999 01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:31,263 willfully exchanging their freedom for security. 1000 01:17:32,195 --> 01:17:37,034 So they can comfortably return to their workstations 1001 01:17:37,068 --> 01:17:41,172 and continue pulling levers on the machine 1002 01:17:41,204 --> 01:17:44,742 just as a money God ordained. 1003 01:21:36,039 --> 01:21:38,342 In the end, it wasn't the so-called communist, 1004 01:21:38,376 --> 01:21:41,412 socialists, anarchists or whatever counterculture group 1005 01:21:41,445 --> 01:21:45,049 that posed the most serious argument for the Great Transition. 1006 01:21:45,082 --> 01:21:47,084 It was the environmental scientist. 1007 01:21:47,118 --> 01:21:49,454 One could debate the ins and outs of morality, 1008 01:21:49,486 --> 01:21:51,388 public health and human rights, 1009 01:21:51,422 --> 01:21:54,726 but if the habitat goes all that becomes moot. 1010 01:21:54,758 --> 01:21:56,627 And at the turn of the 21st century 1011 01:21:56,659 --> 01:22:00,464 our ecological negligence was pretty embarrassing. 1012 01:22:00,498 --> 01:22:02,266 With great inefficiency we were using 1013 01:22:02,298 --> 01:22:04,435 far more resources each year 1014 01:22:04,467 --> 01:22:06,269 than the planet produced. 1015 01:22:06,302 --> 01:22:08,739 Had destroyed vast realms of biodiversity, 1016 01:22:08,772 --> 01:22:11,743 polluted the air, the soil, the water, 1017 01:22:11,775 --> 01:22:14,745 not only destabilizing the entire global ecosystem 1018 01:22:14,779 --> 01:22:18,016 but by extension society itself. 1019 01:22:18,048 --> 01:22:22,352 The most common question I get when teaching this history is, 1020 01:22:22,386 --> 01:22:25,656 "How is it even possible things could get so bad? 1021 01:22:25,689 --> 01:22:28,226 How could everyone just keep blindly pulling levers 1022 01:22:28,258 --> 01:22:30,328 on that destructive economic machine 1023 01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,296 and not see what was happening?" 1024 01:22:32,329 --> 01:22:36,100 And it comes down to a kind of faith-based conditioning, 1025 01:22:36,132 --> 01:22:38,101 a religious pathology taking the form 1026 01:22:38,135 --> 01:22:40,104 of mass economic behavior. 1027 01:22:40,137 --> 01:22:43,674 The doctrine was that of universal scarcity. 1028 01:22:43,707 --> 01:22:46,276 People had been taught to believe that at no time, 1029 01:22:46,310 --> 01:22:49,614 under no circumstance, can economic balance exist. 1030 01:22:49,646 --> 01:22:52,816 The very idea an economy could be organized 1031 01:22:52,850 --> 01:22:56,287 to efficiently provide for everyone while also being 1032 01:22:56,320 --> 01:23:00,058 in balance with the habitat was a sacrilegious taboo. 1033 01:23:00,091 --> 01:23:03,127 The cult of scarcity and consumption wasn't having it. 1034 01:23:03,159 --> 01:23:05,229 They considered it utopian thinking. 1035 01:23:05,262 --> 01:23:08,166 Supporting the myth that people had infinite wants 1036 01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:11,102 and were accusatively insatiable. 1037 01:23:11,135 --> 01:23:14,439 Hence, the poor had to exist and if anything was the problem, 1038 01:23:14,471 --> 01:23:17,307 it must be population not the system. 1039 01:23:18,275 --> 01:23:22,580 That was the prevailing dogma. There must be too many people. 1040 01:23:22,613 --> 01:23:25,182 You can't have ecological balance in a system 1041 01:23:25,216 --> 01:23:28,285 that requires constant consumer activity to work. 1042 01:23:28,319 --> 01:23:30,521 It's one thing to consume based on need. 1043 01:23:30,553 --> 01:23:33,790 It's another to consume because the system demands it. 1044 01:23:33,824 --> 01:23:35,860 And the market system of economics needed 1045 01:23:35,892 --> 01:23:39,129 constant turnover of goods to keep and create jobs, 1046 01:23:39,163 --> 01:23:42,100 providing workers, which of course were also consumers, 1047 01:23:42,132 --> 01:23:44,668 with income to spend back into the system, 1048 01:23:44,702 --> 01:23:48,106 endlessly repeating the cycle of cyclical consumption. 1049 01:23:48,138 --> 01:23:50,240 If it didn't repeat fast enough or slowed, 1050 01:23:50,274 --> 01:23:51,776 the economy contracted. 1051 01:23:51,809 --> 01:23:53,845 Purchasing power wasn't circulating 1052 01:23:53,878 --> 01:23:56,681 and the society proceeded to shut down. 1053 01:23:56,713 --> 01:24:00,618 A very unique historical moment occurred in the early 20th century 1054 01:24:00,650 --> 01:24:05,288 when it was realized that technology was now creating a good surplus 1055 01:24:05,321 --> 01:24:07,658 and great confusion ensued. 1056 01:24:07,690 --> 01:24:10,794 The problem was this newfound productive efficiency 1057 01:24:10,828 --> 01:24:13,698 was not being met by people buying more stuff. 1058 01:24:13,730 --> 01:24:16,133 So two competing perspectives emerged: 1059 01:24:16,167 --> 01:24:19,770 on one side you had idealists, envisioning a new era. 1060 01:24:19,802 --> 01:24:22,573 If we can produce an overall good surplus, 1061 01:24:22,605 --> 01:24:25,575 why not lower the cost of goods respectively 1062 01:24:25,609 --> 01:24:28,412 reducing work hours and increased pay in proportion? 1063 01:24:28,445 --> 01:24:31,883 So you can now have say a person working only two days a week 1064 01:24:31,915 --> 01:24:33,751 without losing their standard of living 1065 01:24:33,784 --> 01:24:36,454 since the market value of labor and goods adjusted 1066 01:24:36,486 --> 01:24:38,655 to compensate for the increased efficiency. 1067 01:24:38,689 --> 01:24:40,857 This logic makes perfect sense when it comes 1068 01:24:40,891 --> 01:24:43,628 to the basic principle of supply and demand. 1069 01:24:43,660 --> 01:24:46,864 Suddenly people have more free time, not buried in debt. 1070 01:24:46,896 --> 01:24:49,633 They can enrich their social life, family life, 1071 01:24:49,667 --> 01:24:51,703 and pursue the things that have true meaning. 1072 01:24:52,703 --> 01:24:55,740 Well, that's not the way it played out 1073 01:24:55,772 --> 01:24:57,542 nor would it ever. 1074 01:24:57,574 --> 01:25:00,544 Which brings us to the system level perspective 1075 01:25:00,578 --> 01:25:03,614 since the system itself simply isn't designed inherently 1076 01:25:03,646 --> 01:25:05,783 for steady state equilibrium. 1077 01:25:05,815 --> 01:25:09,519 Market economics is predicated on a more is better ethic. 1078 01:25:09,552 --> 01:25:11,588 To be competitive in the quest for market share. 1079 01:25:11,622 --> 01:25:13,658 That's what's incentivized. 1080 01:25:13,690 --> 01:25:16,394 More growth, more sales, more employees, 1081 01:25:16,427 --> 01:25:21,299 more capital accumulation, more profit, constant expansion. 1082 01:25:21,332 --> 01:25:23,434 So what happened was to be expected, 1083 01:25:23,467 --> 01:25:24,969 fortifying a new industry, 1084 01:25:25,002 --> 01:25:26,803 commercial advertising. 1085 01:25:26,837 --> 01:25:28,573 What was once a simple media service, 1086 01:25:28,605 --> 01:25:31,309 notifying people of new goods they may need, 1087 01:25:31,342 --> 01:25:34,679 turned into a powerful form of manipulative propaganda. 1088 01:25:34,712 --> 01:25:38,281 In the later stages, companies spent more money on advertising 1089 01:25:38,315 --> 01:25:40,751 than they did on research and development. 1090 01:25:40,784 --> 01:25:44,355 What advertising does is abuse our social nature 1091 01:25:44,387 --> 01:25:46,790 by making people feel like they're missing out. 1092 01:25:46,824 --> 01:25:48,726 They're not good enough without this, 1093 01:25:48,758 --> 01:25:50,962 they're lower in status without that. 1094 01:25:50,994 --> 01:25:54,731 They feel excluded from others if they don't own something. 1095 01:25:54,765 --> 01:25:57,235 And as pathetic as all that sounds it had 1096 01:25:57,267 --> 01:26:00,704 a profound effect on society with everyone keeping up 1097 01:26:00,738 --> 01:26:04,609 with the Joneses in a hideous feedback loop. 1098 01:26:04,641 --> 01:26:07,310 And the result as industrial productivity 1099 01:26:07,343 --> 01:26:10,748 still continued to rise, people worked more than ever, 1100 01:26:10,780 --> 01:26:13,984 had less free time, were in staggering amounts of debt, 1101 01:26:14,017 --> 01:26:16,753 and arguably had a lower standard of living 1102 01:26:16,787 --> 01:26:18,923 when you actually account for human happiness 1103 01:26:18,955 --> 01:26:21,359 and the level of stress people endured. 1104 01:26:21,391 --> 01:26:23,660 All to keep the economic machine moving. 1105 01:26:24,595 --> 01:26:26,998 One thing that's really interesting in all this, 1106 01:26:27,030 --> 01:26:28,765 is that the economic system back then 1107 01:26:28,798 --> 01:26:31,968 embraced a fantastic paradox. 1108 01:26:32,002 --> 01:26:33,604 So here you had a model 1109 01:26:33,637 --> 01:26:35,406 that defended itself by the assumption 1110 01:26:35,439 --> 01:26:38,575 of universal scarcity. Forcing competition, 1111 01:26:38,609 --> 01:26:40,845 oppression, exploitation, 1112 01:26:40,878 --> 01:26:43,781 poverty and so on, while at the same time 1113 01:26:43,814 --> 01:26:47,851 the entire machine needed infinite consumption to work. 1114 01:26:47,885 --> 01:26:49,820 Think about that for a moment. 1115 01:26:49,852 --> 01:26:53,423 How do you justify these harsh outcomes of assumed scarcity 1116 01:26:53,457 --> 01:26:56,526 when the system itself disregards the idea entirely 1117 01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:59,297 when it comes to the very mechanics that make it work? 1118 01:26:59,329 --> 01:27:02,365 And the bottom line is this wasn't an economy at all 1119 01:27:02,399 --> 01:27:05,569 by definition, it was an anti-economy, 1120 01:27:05,601 --> 01:27:08,638 with human beings functioning like cancer cells 1121 01:27:08,672 --> 01:27:10,607 eating the Earth alive. 1122 01:27:10,641 --> 01:27:14,412 In systems theory this is known as a positive feedback loop. 1123 01:27:14,445 --> 01:27:16,480 Don't let that word, positive, confuse you 1124 01:27:16,512 --> 01:27:18,682 as there's nothing positive about it. 1125 01:27:18,716 --> 01:27:21,919 It means there's nothing working to balance system behavior 1126 01:27:21,952 --> 01:27:23,988 to its regulatory environment. 1127 01:27:24,020 --> 01:27:26,423 That environment in the case of Economics 1128 01:27:26,457 --> 01:27:29,827 is a finite planet with a delicate ecosystem. 1129 01:27:29,860 --> 01:27:32,897 If respect for scarcity was taken seriously, 1130 01:27:32,930 --> 01:27:35,499 the goal would be to focus on efficiency, 1131 01:27:35,531 --> 01:27:37,901 working to reduce resource use, reduce waste 1132 01:27:37,935 --> 01:27:40,071 in the process of meeting human needs. 1133 01:27:40,104 --> 01:27:43,039 Manifesting of course a culture that's mature enough 1134 01:27:43,073 --> 01:27:45,810 to understand the boundaries of its own existence. 1135 01:27:46,744 --> 01:27:48,713 Truly positive economic metrics 1136 01:27:48,745 --> 01:27:51,082 are the opposite of what was sought back then. 1137 01:27:51,114 --> 01:27:53,650 Degrowth, so to speak, would be the goal. 1138 01:27:53,684 --> 01:27:56,419 Doing more with less and needing less. 1139 01:27:56,453 --> 01:27:59,123 People would go on TV to give an economic report 1140 01:27:59,155 --> 01:28:02,525 and say something like, "Great metrics for the economy this month. 1141 01:28:02,559 --> 01:28:05,995 We reduced our use of energy and raw materials by another three percent. 1142 01:28:06,029 --> 01:28:09,700 Lowering sales once again with less need for human employment, 1143 01:28:09,732 --> 01:28:12,602 Increasing overall efficiency by a factor of two. 1144 01:28:12,636 --> 01:28:15,439 We continue to be in homeostatic balance with the planet 1145 01:28:15,471 --> 01:28:19,008 for yet another year and humanity has more free time than ever." 1146 01:28:19,042 --> 01:28:20,544 Here's Tom with the weather. 1147 01:28:20,577 --> 01:28:21,712 "Well, it's clear skies 1148 01:28:21,744 --> 01:28:23,079 across the hemispheres. 1149 01:28:23,113 --> 01:28:24,949 The Amazon rainforest isn't on fire. 1150 01:28:24,981 --> 01:28:27,551 We aren't clogging the atmosphere with CO2, 1151 01:28:27,583 --> 01:28:29,787 and we haven't seen swarms of refugees cascading 1152 01:28:29,820 --> 01:28:32,857 across continents in search of food for some time. 1153 01:28:32,890 --> 01:28:34,792 And the fog of billionaire douchebaggery 1154 01:28:34,824 --> 01:28:37,761 seems to have cleared a bit. We do expect some precipitation 1155 01:28:37,794 --> 01:28:40,698 adding to our already abundant fresh water supply 1156 01:28:40,730 --> 01:28:43,900 further improving topsoil while global abundance measures 1157 01:28:43,934 --> 01:28:46,937 has everyone sitting pretty for the foreseeable future." 1158 01:28:48,905 --> 01:28:53,810 Yeah, you would never hear anything like that, instead the opposite. 1159 01:28:53,843 --> 01:28:57,047 Some dickhead PhD ivy league market economist 1160 01:28:57,079 --> 01:28:59,149 religious fanatic who literally 1161 01:28:59,182 --> 01:29:02,185 has no clue what the word economy even means, 1162 01:29:02,218 --> 01:29:04,754 would come on and say, "Quarterly earnings 1163 01:29:04,788 --> 01:29:07,925 were down last month in most sectors as GDP slows. 1164 01:29:07,958 --> 01:29:09,927 We're seeing an increasing in unemployment 1165 01:29:09,959 --> 01:29:11,928 due to the contraction, but hopefully 1166 01:29:11,962 --> 01:29:14,765 the coming Christmas season will spark new consumer demand 1167 01:29:14,797 --> 01:29:16,966 while it's anticipated that the central bank 1168 01:29:16,999 --> 01:29:19,770 will lower interest rates and buy more bonds 1169 01:29:19,802 --> 01:29:22,739 to increase liquidity to ease the credit crunch. 1170 01:29:22,772 --> 01:29:25,743 Hopefully this will improve consumer confidence 1171 01:29:25,775 --> 01:29:28,745 inspiring investors to reallocate capital 1172 01:29:28,779 --> 01:29:31,080 into da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da." 1173 01:29:31,114 --> 01:29:35,619 Translated this means, "We need you people to take on more loans, 1174 01:29:35,651 --> 01:29:39,556 go into more debt to buy more things to create more jobs 1175 01:29:39,589 --> 01:29:42,560 so we can sell more things and use more of the Earth's 1176 01:29:42,592 --> 01:29:45,662 resources. If we're lucky industry will improve 1177 01:29:45,695 --> 01:29:48,698 on shortening good life spans through planned obsolescence. 1178 01:29:48,731 --> 01:29:50,667 Make things impossible to repair. 1179 01:29:50,700 --> 01:29:53,236 Hopefully more single-use goods will become the norm 1180 01:29:53,270 --> 01:29:56,674 so people can buy and throw away at an ever increasing rate 1181 01:29:56,707 --> 01:29:58,142 keeping this shit show going." 1182 01:30:13,022 --> 01:30:15,059 So I want to shift gears here a bit 1183 01:30:15,092 --> 01:30:18,262 and ask you about your work in group identity. 1184 01:30:18,294 --> 01:30:21,164 Specifically how it relates to economic conditions. 1185 01:30:22,598 --> 01:30:25,802 Well, like everything is complex. 1186 01:30:25,836 --> 01:30:28,204 As we talked about earlier our social nature 1187 01:30:28,238 --> 01:30:30,975 can get the best of us and we have some 1188 01:30:31,007 --> 01:30:34,611 interesting evolutionary wiring when it comes to groups. 1189 01:30:34,645 --> 01:30:37,047 Us and them, in groups and out groups, 1190 01:30:37,079 --> 01:30:39,883 and perhaps what's most unique is 1191 01:30:39,917 --> 01:30:42,986 what defines an us and what defines a them 1192 01:30:43,020 --> 01:30:46,022 is subjective and culturally dependent. 1193 01:30:46,056 --> 01:30:48,058 If you grow up only being exposed to people who look 1194 01:30:48,091 --> 01:30:51,095 like you and then you're exposed to those that don't, 1195 01:30:51,128 --> 01:30:54,098 your brain tends to fire with apprehension. 1196 01:30:54,131 --> 01:30:57,635 But the same thing also occurs with something even more trivial 1197 01:30:57,668 --> 01:31:00,271 like baseball caps. You show people who like 1198 01:31:00,303 --> 01:31:03,806 a certain team photos of that team and then throw in a photo 1199 01:31:03,839 --> 01:31:07,110 of an opposing team member, the same thing occurs. 1200 01:31:07,144 --> 01:31:09,113 So for whatever evolutionary reason, 1201 01:31:09,145 --> 01:31:13,650 we have a propensity to divide society up and make judgments. 1202 01:31:13,684 --> 01:31:15,886 And there is no value in it whatsoever. 1203 01:31:15,918 --> 01:31:19,055 It's just dangerous baggage. 1204 01:31:19,088 --> 01:31:20,823 And before the Great Transition, 1205 01:31:20,856 --> 01:31:23,293 because the economy was fundamentally divisive 1206 01:31:23,327 --> 01:31:25,229 due to its competitive nature, 1207 01:31:25,262 --> 01:31:28,699 bigotry and group oppression was a huge problem. 1208 01:31:28,731 --> 01:31:31,068 So you have the human species developing in pockets 1209 01:31:31,101 --> 01:31:34,305 around the world with different environmental exposures. 1210 01:31:34,337 --> 01:31:36,973 Not only shaping appearance such as color of skin, 1211 01:31:37,007 --> 01:31:39,977 but also setting in motion cultural differences 1212 01:31:40,010 --> 01:31:43,213 and as these groups began to mix it got very messy, 1213 01:31:43,245 --> 01:31:46,083 which is why you see, especially by the 20th century, 1214 01:31:46,115 --> 01:31:48,918 strong social movements by people trying to stop 1215 01:31:48,952 --> 01:31:51,922 group oppression, at least on the legal and political level. 1216 01:31:51,954 --> 01:31:55,059 The demand for gender, ethnic, sexual orientation, 1217 01:31:55,092 --> 01:31:57,194 and creed equality was constant 1218 01:31:57,226 --> 01:32:00,330 with modest success given the fact society was still stuck 1219 01:32:00,364 --> 01:32:03,834 in an economic mode based upon mutual exploitation 1220 01:32:03,867 --> 01:32:06,770 amplifying the tendency for group antagonism. 1221 01:32:06,802 --> 01:32:09,038 But there was a side effect to all of this: 1222 01:32:09,071 --> 01:32:11,208 rather than seeking equality to neutralize 1223 01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:14,778 the group identity problem, many chose to embrace it. 1224 01:32:14,811 --> 01:32:18,248 They took what was an artificial construct imposed upon them 1225 01:32:18,280 --> 01:32:19,984 and defined themselves by it. 1226 01:32:20,883 --> 01:32:23,052 For example, someone descended 1227 01:32:23,086 --> 01:32:25,321 from the African slave trade in America 1228 01:32:25,355 --> 01:32:29,360 is only a black person via the construct of being called so. 1229 01:32:29,392 --> 01:32:31,895 There is no such thing as a black person 1230 01:32:31,927 --> 01:32:34,097 just as there's no such thing as a grey person, 1231 01:32:34,131 --> 01:32:37,200 just as there is no such thing as a white person. 1232 01:32:37,234 --> 01:32:39,169 These are all social constructs 1233 01:32:39,202 --> 01:32:42,205 that have invented to artificially categorize people. 1234 01:32:43,205 --> 01:32:44,807 And the same applies to culture, 1235 01:32:44,841 --> 01:32:47,111 just as there is no such thing as a white person, 1236 01:32:47,144 --> 01:32:49,646 there is no such thing as an Italian person 1237 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:53,050 or a Buddhist person or an Irish person or a Jewish person. 1238 01:32:53,083 --> 01:32:56,787 It is one thing to have a valued practice, meditation, 1239 01:32:56,820 --> 01:33:00,790 or sense of philosophy that inspires you and educates you. 1240 01:33:00,824 --> 01:33:05,294 History is rich with beautiful traditions across many belief systems. 1241 01:33:05,328 --> 01:33:08,899 Dogma aside religion itself helps to serve as a kind 1242 01:33:08,931 --> 01:33:12,836 of gateway into our spiritual and intellectual evolution. 1243 01:33:12,869 --> 01:33:15,005 Finding meaning in meditation, 1244 01:33:15,038 --> 01:33:17,841 or putting up a Christmas tree or lighting the menorah 1245 01:33:17,873 --> 01:33:22,078 creates ritualistic connection that can have great personal meeting. 1246 01:33:22,111 --> 01:33:25,214 But engaging Buddhist practice doesn't make you Buddhist. 1247 01:33:25,248 --> 01:33:28,152 Being born from a bloodline in Italy doesn't mean you're an Italian 1248 01:33:28,185 --> 01:33:31,088 and going to church doesn't mean you're Christian. 1249 01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,257 The moment you go from a person that enjoys 1250 01:33:33,289 --> 01:33:35,693 the practice of something to saying, 1251 01:33:35,726 --> 01:33:37,695 "I am this or that," 1252 01:33:37,727 --> 01:33:41,230 is the moment you draw dangerous lines through the species. 1253 01:33:41,263 --> 01:33:43,132 Taking such pride in your ethnic, 1254 01:33:43,165 --> 01:33:45,002 religious, or regional background 1255 01:33:45,034 --> 01:33:47,904 creates an identity with the group by label 1256 01:33:47,937 --> 01:33:51,208 and it is fundamentally elitist and bigoted by nature. 1257 01:33:52,175 --> 01:33:54,912 There is only one race, the human race. 1258 01:33:54,945 --> 01:33:56,980 And within the confines of that fact 1259 01:33:57,012 --> 01:33:59,082 to separate yourself any further 1260 01:33:59,115 --> 01:34:01,452 leads to absolutely nothing positive. 1261 01:35:29,471 --> 01:35:30,373 Kike. 1262 01:35:31,842 --> 01:35:33,877 No, looks more like a wop. 1263 01:35:33,909 --> 01:35:36,245 Yeah greaseball dago to be sure. 1264 01:35:36,279 --> 01:35:38,115 Just another Eurotrash wetback. 1265 01:35:38,147 --> 01:35:40,050 Cracker guinea freeloader. 1266 01:35:40,083 --> 01:35:42,119 And look at those clothes. 1267 01:35:42,151 --> 01:35:44,488 A Nancy Drew Becky wanna be Stacy. 1268 01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:46,956 Looking for her chad that never comes. 1269 01:35:46,989 --> 01:35:49,926 No doubt, a tree hugging, dirt worshipping feminazi. 1270 01:35:49,959 --> 01:35:52,261 Soy boy beta cuck magnet. 1271 01:35:52,294 --> 01:35:56,600 A card-carrying purple haired, muff diving, spook loving. 1272 01:35:56,632 --> 01:35:58,868 Self-righteous socialist pinko. 1273 01:35:58,901 --> 01:36:01,471 Coloring in her little book with her junglebunny. 1274 01:36:01,503 --> 01:36:03,841 Towelhead libtard comrades. 1275 01:36:03,873 --> 01:36:07,977 Just a sea of bleeding-heart social justice warrior welfare queens. 1276 01:36:08,011 --> 01:36:13,115 Bootlicking, anti-freedom globalist, vegan red zombie. 1277 01:36:13,149 --> 01:36:15,319 A communist snowflake cumdumpster. 1278 01:36:15,351 --> 01:36:18,921 So just move back to Cuba with all the other crybaby. 1279 01:36:18,954 --> 01:36:20,390 Regressive, leftist. 1280 01:36:20,422 --> 01:36:22,158 Marxist, Antifa. 1281 01:36:22,191 --> 01:36:23,459 Utopianists. 1282 01:38:20,409 --> 01:38:25,481 - Break time. - Yeah, I need to zone out for a bit. 1283 01:38:26,548 --> 01:38:29,519 This final programming is melting my brain. 1284 01:38:32,055 --> 01:38:35,492 - What's this? - Good question. 1285 01:38:35,525 --> 01:38:38,428 Some old film by this guy, Joseph. 1286 01:38:38,461 --> 01:38:41,231 It's like an abstract social commentary. 1287 01:38:41,263 --> 01:38:42,699 I haven't quite figured it out. 1288 01:38:45,034 --> 01:38:46,235 Looks pretentious. 1289 01:38:48,570 --> 01:38:50,039 How's the great debate? 1290 01:38:50,073 --> 01:38:51,709 That's what I'm going to find out. 1291 01:38:54,377 --> 01:38:56,146 I'm sorry. 1292 01:38:56,178 --> 01:38:58,781 I thought we were trying to save the world. 1293 01:38:58,815 --> 01:39:00,617 Everything's ahead of schedule. 1294 01:39:00,650 --> 01:39:03,387 And I can't do much more without the satellite coordinates. 1295 01:39:03,419 --> 01:39:05,654 - Plus this is getting good. - Hm-mm. 1296 01:39:05,687 --> 01:39:07,790 According to the script, looks like John's about to school 1297 01:39:07,824 --> 01:39:09,593 Simon on the nature of hierarchy. 1298 01:39:11,761 --> 01:39:14,765 Wait, how is it we're seeing both in the shot at once. 1299 01:39:14,797 --> 01:39:16,732 The camera links to his eye. 1300 01:39:16,766 --> 01:39:20,337 Shh. Audiences don't usually notice things like that. 1301 01:39:20,369 --> 01:39:24,673 And besides where do you see equality in the animal kingdom? 1302 01:39:24,707 --> 01:39:26,376 No one's equal, John. 1303 01:39:26,409 --> 01:39:29,046 And it would be painfully boring if they were. 1304 01:39:29,079 --> 01:39:30,647 Humans are diverse. 1305 01:39:30,680 --> 01:39:32,548 Everyone has different capabilities, 1306 01:39:32,582 --> 01:39:35,485 strengths, weaknesses, talents. 1307 01:39:35,517 --> 01:39:37,486 The push for social equality and human rights 1308 01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,623 is about how that diversity is understood. 1309 01:39:40,556 --> 01:39:42,291 And you've seemed to think people should only be valued 1310 01:39:42,324 --> 01:39:44,327 by how well they compete in the business game 1311 01:39:44,360 --> 01:39:46,696 as if the violence spread between the rich and the poor 1312 01:39:46,729 --> 01:39:48,632 reflects objective human worth. 1313 01:39:48,664 --> 01:39:52,202 John, I amuse myself with the notion 1314 01:39:52,235 --> 01:39:55,305 of the money God because it isn't far from the truth. 1315 01:39:55,337 --> 01:39:59,341 Some system has to exist to divide up a scarce world 1316 01:39:59,374 --> 01:40:03,345 and nature has spoken as to what that system must be. 1317 01:40:03,378 --> 01:40:06,515 Those who reach the top of the pyramid deserve it, 1318 01:40:06,548 --> 01:40:09,185 not because you or I think it's right, 1319 01:40:09,218 --> 01:40:12,489 but because that's what nature is selecting for. 1320 01:40:12,521 --> 01:40:14,658 So nature prefers sociopaths and psychopaths 1321 01:40:14,690 --> 01:40:17,126 to guide the species? Because those are the dominating 1322 01:40:17,159 --> 01:40:18,761 traits of the ruling class today. 1323 01:40:18,794 --> 01:40:21,832 The system is as the system does. 1324 01:40:21,864 --> 01:40:24,233 Is that what the Malthusian Mandate is about? 1325 01:40:24,266 --> 01:40:26,336 To then select out the poor and weak. 1326 01:40:27,403 --> 01:40:29,272 We'll get to the mandate in a moment. 1327 01:40:30,739 --> 01:40:33,409 I'm still bothered by your denial of the fact 1328 01:40:33,443 --> 01:40:37,314 our social system reflects our true biological nature. 1329 01:40:37,346 --> 01:40:41,150 And if this revolution you speak of did magically occur, 1330 01:40:41,184 --> 01:40:43,520 it would just be a matter of time before the innate 1331 01:40:43,552 --> 01:40:48,190 compulsion towards social dominance prevailed yet again. 1332 01:40:48,223 --> 01:40:52,261 Deep down, John, the slaves don't want to be free. 1333 01:40:52,294 --> 01:40:54,565 They want to be slave owners. 1334 01:40:55,899 --> 01:40:56,767 Nice one. 1335 01:40:58,333 --> 01:41:00,203 Too bad history paints a different picture. 1336 01:41:01,303 --> 01:41:02,838 Our hierarchies have remained 1337 01:41:02,872 --> 01:41:05,609 constant throughout recorded civilization. 1338 01:41:05,641 --> 01:41:08,544 For perhaps the last 12,000 years, sure. 1339 01:41:08,578 --> 01:41:10,347 But you know as well as I do, before the discovery 1340 01:41:10,379 --> 01:41:12,781 of agriculture, there was no such thing. 1341 01:41:12,815 --> 01:41:15,352 Ninety-nine percent of human history has been egalitarian. 1342 01:41:15,385 --> 01:41:18,187 I said civilization, John. 1343 01:41:18,221 --> 01:41:20,656 Meandering hunter-gatherer tribes 1344 01:41:20,690 --> 01:41:24,895 chucking spears and eating grubs isn't civilization. 1345 01:41:24,927 --> 01:41:26,596 How contemporacist of you. 1346 01:41:27,596 --> 01:41:31,233 Yet 20th century study of numerous hunter-gatherer tribes, 1347 01:41:31,266 --> 01:41:34,236 those still surviving in remote areas just as they did 1348 01:41:34,270 --> 01:41:36,806 thousands of years prior, actually show socially 1349 01:41:36,838 --> 01:41:40,943 rich cultures. Adult life spans not far from ours. 1350 01:41:40,976 --> 01:41:43,613 Relatively peaceful in balance with nature. 1351 01:41:43,645 --> 01:41:48,250 No leaders, no group hierarchy, no inequality. 1352 01:41:48,284 --> 01:41:52,422 To argue today's society is somehow more civilized is dubious at best. 1353 01:41:52,454 --> 01:41:54,658 Well, then perhaps you can encourage 1354 01:41:54,690 --> 01:41:56,559 all your enlightened followers 1355 01:41:56,592 --> 01:41:58,861 to come together and live out their utopian 1356 01:41:58,895 --> 01:42:00,797 fantasy in the Amazon jungle. 1357 01:42:00,829 --> 01:42:03,533 You mean what's left of it? What hasn't been destroyed 1358 01:42:03,565 --> 01:42:05,769 by the supposedly advanced culture that's ravaged 1359 01:42:05,802 --> 01:42:07,938 the natural world into total decline 1360 01:42:07,971 --> 01:42:11,908 in the name of infinite consumption and economic growth? 1361 01:42:11,940 --> 01:42:14,743 And the point here, Simon, is hunter-gatherer cultures 1362 01:42:14,776 --> 01:42:16,879 are evidence of human variability. 1363 01:42:16,913 --> 01:42:19,982 variability which contradicts your vague biological determinism. 1364 01:42:20,016 --> 01:42:22,519 John, just because history shows 1365 01:42:22,552 --> 01:42:25,922 a range of behaviors across time doesn't prove anything. 1366 01:42:25,954 --> 01:42:29,225 The introduction of agriculture indeed changed 1367 01:42:29,258 --> 01:42:33,462 the human condition because it triggered a dormant trait 1368 01:42:33,495 --> 01:42:35,899 in our evolutionary psychology. 1369 01:42:35,931 --> 01:42:38,667 A trait that wasn't expressed before. 1370 01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:39,735 How? 1371 01:42:39,769 --> 01:42:41,370 By the advent 1372 01:42:41,404 --> 01:42:43,339 of economic surplus. 1373 01:42:43,373 --> 01:42:44,941 Economic surplus. 1374 01:42:44,973 --> 01:42:48,477 Resources and goods that could be stored, 1375 01:42:48,511 --> 01:42:50,946 hoarded, stockpiled, owned, 1376 01:42:50,980 --> 01:42:54,618 traded, controlled, leveraged for personal gain. 1377 01:42:54,650 --> 01:42:58,988 A phenomenon that was impossible in a hunter-gatherer reality. 1378 01:42:59,021 --> 01:43:02,591 And it was that realization that sparked our now 1379 01:43:02,624 --> 01:43:05,995 omnipresent drive toward dominance and hierarchy. 1380 01:43:09,399 --> 01:43:10,367 I didn't know that. 1381 01:43:11,368 --> 01:43:14,971 Genetic dormancy of an evolutionary expression. 1382 01:43:15,003 --> 01:43:17,406 Needed an environmental trigger, 1383 01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:20,477 psychological drive, but then morphs into complex 1384 01:43:20,510 --> 01:43:22,878 oppressive institutions and structures. 1385 01:43:23,812 --> 01:43:27,484 Compelling. Intuitive. Plausible. 1386 01:43:28,918 --> 01:43:30,587 Too bad it's total bullshit. 1387 01:43:30,619 --> 01:43:32,821 All simpleton, pedestrian, bio-deterministic 1388 01:43:32,855 --> 01:43:35,558 conclusions that are nothing more than elitist projections. 1389 01:43:35,591 --> 01:43:39,529 You think it's wise to insult me given this circumstance, John. 1390 01:43:40,596 --> 01:43:41,498 And listen. 1391 01:44:12,494 --> 01:44:14,698 Agriculture did change everything. 1392 01:44:14,730 --> 01:44:16,899 But not because of someone's dormant psychological 1393 01:44:16,932 --> 01:44:19,836 drive magically triggered by economic surplus. 1394 01:44:19,869 --> 01:44:22,772 It was about what such a society technically required, 1395 01:44:22,805 --> 01:44:26,976 dramatically shifting incentives and very nature of human relationships. 1396 01:44:27,008 --> 01:44:30,346 Think about it. First you need the proper land, 1397 01:44:30,379 --> 01:44:32,548 water, the right conditions to farm, 1398 01:44:32,582 --> 01:44:34,651 then creating settlements around those fruitful areas 1399 01:44:34,684 --> 01:44:36,619 as opposed to foraging. 1400 01:44:36,651 --> 01:44:39,588 And since land quality varies some settlements will prosper 1401 01:44:39,622 --> 01:44:42,459 due to their geography and some will falter. 1402 01:44:42,492 --> 01:44:44,961 So what happens when a group finds itself with failed crops 1403 01:44:44,994 --> 01:44:46,996 and no way to survive the winter? 1404 01:44:47,029 --> 01:44:48,598 They may trade with other groups, 1405 01:44:48,631 --> 01:44:50,600 building out what we call a market today, 1406 01:44:50,632 --> 01:44:53,669 giving way to the idea of property and so on. 1407 01:44:53,703 --> 01:44:55,839 Or if they have nothing to trade, desperate, 1408 01:44:55,872 --> 01:44:59,743 they may invade, they may steal, compete, 1409 01:44:59,775 --> 01:45:03,145 establishing the need for protection, laws, armies, 1410 01:45:03,178 --> 01:45:04,914 the state institution itself. 1411 01:45:05,882 --> 01:45:08,518 At the same time people begin to notice the imbalance 1412 01:45:08,551 --> 01:45:10,887 and power of this new propertied reality, 1413 01:45:10,919 --> 01:45:14,524 rationalizing the hoarding of wealth for the sake of future security. 1414 01:45:15,425 --> 01:45:19,895 Hence the birth of inequity, poverty, socio-economic class. 1415 01:45:20,829 --> 01:45:24,900 Simon, every major structural aspect of society today, 1416 01:45:24,934 --> 01:45:27,971 from ownership to trade, to nation states 1417 01:45:28,003 --> 01:45:31,039 to institutional warfare at the competitive ethic 1418 01:45:31,073 --> 01:45:36,178 to vast economic inequality and power hierarchy was predictable. 1419 01:45:36,212 --> 01:45:37,647 Snowballing ever since. 1420 01:45:38,814 --> 01:45:43,787 So your theory is if you change the structure of society 1421 01:45:43,820 --> 01:45:45,789 you change the human condition? 1422 01:45:47,190 --> 01:45:50,693 - There's no going back, John. - No one's going back. 1423 01:45:50,726 --> 01:45:52,162 We're going forward. 1424 01:45:52,195 --> 01:45:54,497 Humanity has been trapped in this immature stage 1425 01:45:54,529 --> 01:45:56,899 for too long, not to mention the sickness manifest 1426 01:45:56,932 --> 01:46:00,602 by this endless striving towards social status is palpable. 1427 01:46:00,636 --> 01:46:02,472 Children, when who asked what they want 1428 01:46:02,504 --> 01:46:06,074 to be when they grow up say, "Rich and famous." 1429 01:46:06,107 --> 01:46:08,977 How the most wealthy nations, those beacons of supposed 1430 01:46:09,011 --> 01:46:12,649 success are by far the most mentally ill. 1431 01:46:12,681 --> 01:46:16,218 People don't know who they are, where they're going 1432 01:46:16,252 --> 01:46:17,720 and what they're doing. 1433 01:46:17,753 --> 01:46:19,990 Lost in a perversion of social image. 1434 01:46:20,890 --> 01:46:24,127 A spectacle that no longer has any relationship 1435 01:46:24,159 --> 01:46:25,595 to anything real. 1436 01:50:39,914 --> 01:50:42,284 So I'd like to go back to the subject of inequality. 1437 01:50:42,318 --> 01:50:44,454 But this time to understand the mechanics 1438 01:50:44,486 --> 01:50:47,723 of the oppression how the hierarchy was kept in place? 1439 01:50:47,757 --> 01:50:49,726 Okay, let's start with money. 1440 01:50:51,994 --> 01:50:54,831 Money was the infrastructure of the market economy 1441 01:50:54,864 --> 01:50:56,899 and how it was created and moved around 1442 01:50:56,931 --> 01:50:59,836 was instrumental to lower class oppression. 1443 01:50:59,869 --> 01:51:03,206 So you had these things called banks and they had 1444 01:51:03,239 --> 01:51:07,043 the ungodly power to make abstract value out of nothing. 1445 01:51:07,075 --> 01:51:11,046 If a person needed money for a home or car or business, 1446 01:51:11,079 --> 01:51:14,216 they went to their local bank and applied for a loan, 1447 01:51:14,249 --> 01:51:16,819 and if approved the person signed a contract 1448 01:51:16,851 --> 01:51:20,822 binding them to return that loaned money at a future date. 1449 01:51:20,855 --> 01:51:23,024 Though, it's not really a lone 1450 01:51:23,057 --> 01:51:26,294 in the sense of somebody lending out what they already owned. 1451 01:51:26,328 --> 01:51:28,964 Contrary to what most assumed banks didn't loan out money 1452 01:51:28,998 --> 01:51:32,268 they actually had, they instead created new money 1453 01:51:32,301 --> 01:51:35,471 in the form of credit backed by debt. 1454 01:51:35,503 --> 01:51:37,973 So on one side money represented 1455 01:51:38,007 --> 01:51:40,276 a store of value people could spend, 1456 01:51:40,309 --> 01:51:43,945 while on the other it was a liability made out of debt. 1457 01:51:43,979 --> 01:51:46,348 In other words, for every dollar that existed, 1458 01:51:46,382 --> 01:51:48,484 there was also a debt of a dollar 1459 01:51:48,516 --> 01:51:50,919 owed to some bank somewhere. 1460 01:51:50,953 --> 01:51:53,289 That was how money was brought into existence 1461 01:51:53,321 --> 01:51:57,827 and when someone repaid the loan debt the money then disappeared. 1462 01:51:57,860 --> 01:52:01,030 That understood any kind of service in that economy 1463 01:52:01,062 --> 01:52:03,800 sought a profit, and in the case of a loan, 1464 01:52:03,833 --> 01:52:06,869 that came in the form of a fee called interest. 1465 01:52:06,901 --> 01:52:10,205 So the borrower not only had to eventually repay the loan 1466 01:52:10,239 --> 01:52:13,009 but also the interest charged as well. 1467 01:52:14,043 --> 01:52:16,312 Imagine an island of a hundred people, 1468 01:52:16,345 --> 01:52:19,882 they decide to organize themselves through market economy. 1469 01:52:19,914 --> 01:52:22,385 They plop a bank down and each of them take a loan 1470 01:52:22,418 --> 01:52:25,922 for 100 credits of money at ten percent interest. 1471 01:52:25,954 --> 01:52:28,557 So they all now have 10,000 credits total 1472 01:52:28,591 --> 01:52:31,227 in their money supply and they begin to work 1473 01:52:31,260 --> 01:52:34,196 in exchange creating economic activity. 1474 01:52:34,230 --> 01:52:36,432 When the time comes to pay back the loan, 1475 01:52:36,464 --> 01:52:40,101 they realized they owe not only the 100 credits, 1476 01:52:40,135 --> 01:52:43,972 but the ten percent interest, so 110 credits. 1477 01:52:44,006 --> 01:52:46,042 Same for the whole society, 1478 01:52:46,074 --> 01:52:49,077 in total everyone on the island now owes the bank 1479 01:52:49,110 --> 01:52:51,079 11,000 credits. 1480 01:52:51,113 --> 01:52:55,318 But yet, only 10,000 actually exist in the money supply. 1481 01:52:55,351 --> 01:53:00,156 There is now more depth owed than money in existence 1482 01:53:00,189 --> 01:53:02,024 due to the interest charged. 1483 01:53:02,056 --> 01:53:04,961 So three things can happen: one, those short 1484 01:53:04,994 --> 01:53:07,230 can take on more loans to temporarily cover 1485 01:53:07,262 --> 01:53:09,397 the old ones postponing the problem. 1486 01:53:09,431 --> 01:53:12,268 Two, people could ramp up competitive trade 1487 01:53:12,301 --> 01:53:14,337 increasing economic activity 1488 01:53:14,369 --> 01:53:17,038 to try to get enough from others to cover the debt, 1489 01:53:17,071 --> 01:53:20,877 displacing the debt responsibility like a game of musical chairs. 1490 01:53:20,909 --> 01:53:24,279 Or three, the bank comes in and takes real property 1491 01:53:24,312 --> 01:53:26,414 to compensate for the outstanding debt, 1492 01:53:26,448 --> 01:53:30,218 which is inevitably what happens somewhere down the line anyway. 1493 01:53:30,252 --> 01:53:31,954 Wait, that, that can't be right. 1494 01:53:31,986 --> 01:53:34,356 That would just be a system of organized theft. 1495 01:53:34,390 --> 01:53:38,895 Yes, banks were vehicles of creation on one side, 1496 01:53:38,927 --> 01:53:40,229 and a system of organized theft 1497 01:53:40,262 --> 01:53:42,131 and class oppression on the other. 1498 01:53:42,163 --> 01:53:45,200 But in a large complex global society, one based 1499 01:53:45,234 --> 01:53:48,169 on economic growth, money moves so rapidly 1500 01:53:48,203 --> 01:53:51,007 it was very hard for the mechanics of this to be recognized. 1501 01:53:51,039 --> 01:53:53,642 Obscured by things like the boom-and-bust cycle, 1502 01:53:53,676 --> 01:53:56,145 monetary expansion and contraction. 1503 01:53:57,046 --> 01:54:00,048 - Mm, please continue. - So back to our island again. 1504 01:54:01,350 --> 01:54:03,686 But this time for the sake of simplicity, 1505 01:54:03,718 --> 01:54:06,521 let's remove the interest fee from the equation, 1506 01:54:06,555 --> 01:54:10,559 and focus only on the outcomes of competitive trade itself. 1507 01:54:10,592 --> 01:54:13,663 So the 10,000 credits of money has been moving around 1508 01:54:13,695 --> 01:54:15,997 through trade, labor investment, 1509 01:54:16,030 --> 01:54:18,434 starting businesses, hiring employees, 1510 01:54:18,467 --> 01:54:21,003 and as is inevitable to the game, 1511 01:54:21,035 --> 01:54:24,506 some businesses will outperform winning disproportion income, 1512 01:54:24,539 --> 01:54:27,510 while others will fall behind losing income. 1513 01:54:27,543 --> 01:54:29,979 And naturally those with more money 1514 01:54:30,012 --> 01:54:32,982 can then increase their gaming advantage becoming 1515 01:54:33,015 --> 01:54:37,419 ever more competitive and of course more prone to keep winning. 1516 01:54:37,453 --> 01:54:40,056 As the old adage went, the rich get richer 1517 01:54:40,088 --> 01:54:41,723 and the poor get poorer. 1518 01:54:41,757 --> 01:54:44,393 A small business with limited means simply can't compete 1519 01:54:44,426 --> 01:54:47,730 with a larger one that can outperform them in the same service 1520 01:54:47,762 --> 01:54:50,699 due to having more resources to work with. 1521 01:54:50,732 --> 01:54:53,468 So on our Island, we see an inevitable 1522 01:54:53,502 --> 01:54:56,571 point in time where say ten percent of that population 1523 01:54:56,605 --> 01:54:59,542 managed to acquire 90% of the island's wealth 1524 01:54:59,574 --> 01:55:01,443 while the other 90% of the population 1525 01:55:01,476 --> 01:55:03,578 now has only ten percent. 1526 01:55:03,611 --> 01:55:06,716 By the way, this isn't some arbitrary assumption, 1527 01:55:06,748 --> 01:55:08,984 this can be modeled mathematically. 1528 01:55:09,017 --> 01:55:12,087 The dynamics of mass competitive trade in any society 1529 01:55:12,120 --> 01:55:15,024 always moves toward disequilibrium. 1530 01:55:15,056 --> 01:55:17,726 So back to my point, when you put this together 1531 01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:21,564 a displaced debt burden and the application of interest, 1532 01:55:21,596 --> 01:55:24,432 you can begin to see the insidiousness. 1533 01:55:24,466 --> 01:55:27,570 An economic process based upon competitive advantage and trade 1534 01:55:27,602 --> 01:55:31,239 that inevitably consolidates wealth increasing that advantage. 1535 01:55:31,272 --> 01:55:33,542 Coupled with a financial system that is charging 1536 01:55:33,574 --> 01:55:36,778 interest on loans that can never be fully repaid. 1537 01:55:36,811 --> 01:55:39,748 So it's no surprise that in the early 21st century 1538 01:55:39,781 --> 01:55:43,119 the global economy had about 200 trillion in debt 1539 01:55:43,151 --> 01:55:45,654 and only 80 trillion in outstanding currency. 1540 01:55:45,686 --> 01:55:47,589 While in the United States, then considered 1541 01:55:47,623 --> 01:55:49,558 the richest nation on the planet, 1542 01:55:49,591 --> 01:55:53,396 half of the population had less than 1,000 dollars in savings 1543 01:55:53,428 --> 01:55:56,731 while also spending more each year than they actually earned. 1544 01:55:56,765 --> 01:55:58,434 Just trying to keep up. 1545 01:55:59,601 --> 01:56:02,071 While on the global level in nearly 50 percent 1546 01:56:02,104 --> 01:56:04,406 of the population lived in poverty on less 1547 01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:08,544 than $5.50 a day as roughly 30 individuals. 1548 01:56:08,577 --> 01:56:14,249 Yes, 30, owned more wealth than the bottom half, 3.6 billion. 1549 01:56:15,284 --> 01:56:17,787 Now, there are plenty of other intermitted things 1550 01:56:17,820 --> 01:56:19,555 that contribute to this disparity. 1551 01:56:20,455 --> 01:56:22,624 Offshore tax havens for the rich. 1552 01:56:22,658 --> 01:56:26,095 The mythology of trickle-down economics were government favors 1553 01:56:26,128 --> 01:56:29,532 business over the public's well-being, gaming strategies 1554 01:56:29,565 --> 01:56:32,835 to restrict the power of unions and keep wages low, 1555 01:56:32,868 --> 01:56:35,104 various shenanigans related to this thing 1556 01:56:35,137 --> 01:56:37,339 called the stock market, 1557 01:56:37,372 --> 01:56:41,077 but the financial system and its use of depth is really 1558 01:56:41,110 --> 01:56:42,578 the foundation of it all. 1559 01:56:42,610 --> 01:56:44,312 Wow, you, you, 1560 01:56:44,346 --> 01:56:46,315 you would expect riots in the streets if people 1561 01:56:46,347 --> 01:56:49,185 - really understood that. - Well, there eventually were. 1562 01:56:49,217 --> 01:56:51,586 But again, at the time, people just couldn't see it. 1563 01:56:51,619 --> 01:56:55,256 But, no, it wasn't until the complete abolition of debt 1564 01:56:55,289 --> 01:56:58,694 on all levels that human slavery finally ended on this planet. 1565 01:56:59,861 --> 01:57:02,565 Speaking of awareness I'd like to talk 1566 01:57:02,597 --> 01:57:05,234 a little about how the awakening started. 1567 01:57:05,266 --> 01:57:07,202 I know Concordia was instrumental 1568 01:57:07,235 --> 01:57:10,238 to technical change later on, but what about before that 1569 01:57:10,271 --> 01:57:12,841 perhaps starting in 20th century? 1570 01:57:12,874 --> 01:57:14,877 Well, it's sporadic. 1571 01:57:14,909 --> 01:57:16,678 The largest move against this system was 1572 01:57:16,712 --> 01:57:19,615 the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia inspired by a man 1573 01:57:19,647 --> 01:57:22,618 named Karl Marx, that brought about the Soviet Union 1574 01:57:22,650 --> 01:57:24,787 which existed for a couple decades. 1575 01:57:24,820 --> 01:57:27,289 And it employed a top-down regulation system 1576 01:57:27,321 --> 01:57:29,458 they called communism but it proved to be 1577 01:57:29,490 --> 01:57:31,392 inefficient and oppressive. 1578 01:57:31,426 --> 01:57:34,396 It was also wildly opposed by Western capitalist powers, 1579 01:57:34,428 --> 01:57:38,300 which sought to destroy it by any means necessary. 1580 01:57:38,333 --> 01:57:41,837 Criticism was generally infused with civil rights movements. 1581 01:57:41,869 --> 01:57:44,873 For example, Mahatma Gandhi, who helped liberate India 1582 01:57:44,906 --> 01:57:48,244 from Colonial rule, was notably against the system 1583 01:57:48,276 --> 01:57:50,678 recognizing its creation of poverty. 1584 01:57:50,712 --> 01:57:54,917 Once saying that "poverty was the worst form of violence." 1585 01:57:54,949 --> 01:57:56,618 Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., 1586 01:57:56,651 --> 01:57:59,187 was also steadfast against capitalism, 1587 01:57:59,221 --> 01:58:01,824 seeing it as a part of a system of oppression 1588 01:58:01,856 --> 01:58:05,461 fueling racism. Same for the Black Panther Party 1589 01:58:05,494 --> 01:58:08,564 that had chapters all over the world in the 1960s. 1590 01:58:08,596 --> 01:58:11,432 You also had more academic minded organizations 1591 01:58:11,466 --> 01:58:13,334 like the technocracy movement 1592 01:58:13,368 --> 01:58:16,504 largely inspired by famous economist, Thorstein Veblen, 1593 01:58:16,538 --> 01:58:18,274 who recognize that a society 1594 01:58:18,306 --> 01:58:21,176 run by business people was a very bad idea. 1595 01:58:21,944 --> 01:58:26,315 And by the 21st century when economic inequality was reaching 1596 01:58:26,347 --> 01:58:30,519 unprecedented extremes coupled with a growing ecological crisis 1597 01:58:30,552 --> 01:58:33,322 many more were realizing something had to be done. 1598 01:58:34,789 --> 01:58:38,493 But there is one that sticks out to me in the context 1599 01:58:38,526 --> 01:58:41,430 of the value system disorder present at the time. 1600 01:58:41,462 --> 01:58:44,232 An iconic speech given by a man named Omar Padillo. 1601 01:58:44,999 --> 01:58:48,236 Omar was born in poverty in Los Angeles, California. 1602 01:58:48,270 --> 01:58:50,239 And as a young man, he just happened to win 1603 01:58:50,271 --> 01:58:54,376 the largest state lottery ever in 2037 and he decided 1604 01:58:54,409 --> 01:58:58,480 to use that money to solve the vast homeless crisis in his hometown. 1605 01:58:58,512 --> 01:59:02,251 He funded non-profits, established housing treatment centers. 1606 01:59:02,284 --> 01:59:03,886 Not only getting people off the streets, 1607 01:59:03,918 --> 01:59:06,488 but really helping them recover and acclimate. 1608 01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:08,656 Something that hadn't been done before. 1609 01:59:08,690 --> 01:59:11,427 And they gave him a Nobel Peace Prize for it. 1610 01:59:11,459 --> 01:59:13,895 But what he had to say during his speech 1611 01:59:13,928 --> 01:59:15,864 wasn't exactly what they expected. 1612 01:59:39,020 --> 01:59:40,455 Thank you. 1613 01:59:40,489 --> 01:59:41,757 And while I'm happy for those 1614 01:59:41,789 --> 01:59:43,758 we have helped over the past few years, 1615 01:59:43,792 --> 01:59:47,762 taking about 75,000 homeless off the Los Angeles streets, 1616 01:59:47,796 --> 01:59:50,432 I must say that the problem 1617 01:59:50,464 --> 01:59:52,900 at hand runs much deeper than the poverty 1618 01:59:52,934 --> 01:59:56,437 we see around us. When I created this program, 1619 01:59:56,471 --> 01:59:59,875 focusing on just this one regional crises, 1620 01:59:59,908 --> 02:00:02,678 my long-term hope was that it would set a new precedent. 1621 02:00:02,711 --> 02:00:04,713 That those who disproportionately benefit 1622 02:00:04,745 --> 02:00:08,350 in this world would be inspired, step up 1623 02:00:08,382 --> 02:00:11,319 and help take responsibility for the plight 1624 02:00:11,352 --> 02:00:12,887 of the less fortunate. 1625 02:00:12,921 --> 02:00:15,290 After all, what I have done here 1626 02:00:15,324 --> 02:00:17,793 is merely a patch that can only help a few. 1627 02:00:17,825 --> 02:00:20,428 For the true source of poverty, 1628 02:00:20,462 --> 02:00:23,665 our social system, continues to go unaddressed. 1629 02:00:24,665 --> 02:00:27,436 We live in a world of stories and myths. 1630 02:00:27,468 --> 02:00:30,338 And we've been told that the vast inequities that we see 1631 02:00:30,372 --> 02:00:33,909 is the price we must pay for innovation and progress. 1632 02:00:33,941 --> 02:00:35,810 Well, innovation to what end 1633 02:00:35,843 --> 02:00:38,946 and how do we define this notion of progress? 1634 02:00:38,980 --> 02:00:43,319 For if progress is about how much one can own, the availability of jobs 1635 02:00:43,351 --> 02:00:46,921 the state of a nation's GDP, the rise of the stock market, 1636 02:00:46,954 --> 02:00:50,425 or the development of some gadget to entertain and distract you, 1637 02:00:50,458 --> 02:00:53,695 then we face a serious existential crisis. 1638 02:00:53,729 --> 02:00:57,598 I submit that true progress can only be measured in the health, 1639 02:00:57,632 --> 02:01:02,338 stability, integrity and responsible freedom of a civilization. 1640 02:01:02,370 --> 02:01:05,940 Responsible to ourselves, responsible to each other 1641 02:01:05,973 --> 02:01:09,544 and responsible to their earthly habitat we all share. 1642 02:01:09,578 --> 02:01:11,847 And by those measures, my friends, 1643 02:01:11,879 --> 02:01:14,415 there is now little progress to be found. 1644 02:01:14,449 --> 02:01:16,852 As we all sit idly by, presupposing 1645 02:01:16,885 --> 02:01:19,789 that the way society works is the only way it ever could. 1646 02:01:20,721 --> 02:01:23,891 That said, if it's true that we must persist 1647 02:01:23,925 --> 02:01:26,528 in this inhumane economic order, 1648 02:01:26,561 --> 02:01:29,531 an order that has proven it can only create affluence 1649 02:01:29,564 --> 02:01:33,436 for a minority at the cost of destitution for the majority, 1650 02:01:34,735 --> 02:01:37,939 then our only choice is to seek a new level 1651 02:01:37,972 --> 02:01:40,542 of humanitarian effort. 1652 02:01:40,574 --> 02:01:42,778 Today, three people have more wealth 1653 02:01:42,811 --> 02:01:46,482 than the bottom 75% of the world's population, 1654 02:01:46,515 --> 02:01:48,417 six billion people, 1655 02:01:48,449 --> 02:01:51,753 the total wealth of the 4,000 billionaires out there 1656 02:01:51,787 --> 02:01:55,691 have the means to end global poverty a hundred times over, 1657 02:01:55,723 --> 02:01:59,395 and yet if you study their philanthropy, 1658 02:01:59,427 --> 02:02:02,131 it is clear that they are far more concerned 1659 02:02:02,163 --> 02:02:04,867 with their own interests, their own comforts, 1660 02:02:04,900 --> 02:02:07,870 than working to counter this ongoing structural violence. 1661 02:02:09,937 --> 02:02:13,141 You see there's a deeper kind of poverty here. 1662 02:02:14,575 --> 02:02:18,579 A spiritual poverty, a poverty that grows a culture 1663 02:02:18,613 --> 02:02:22,450 of sociopaths and the more they have, the more they want, 1664 02:02:22,484 --> 02:02:24,153 and the less they seem to care otherwise. 1665 02:02:24,186 --> 02:02:28,490 Moral bankruptcy hiding behind this age-old story 1666 02:02:28,522 --> 02:02:31,793 that one can have a billion dollars in the bank while others starve 1667 02:02:31,827 --> 02:02:34,864 is somehow natural to the human condition. 1668 02:02:38,199 --> 02:02:40,668 In a number of months my program will end 1669 02:02:41,570 --> 02:02:44,106 as the funds will be gone. 1670 02:02:44,138 --> 02:02:48,944 And to date not one wealthy, so-called philanthropist 1671 02:02:48,976 --> 02:02:51,146 has offered to help keep the program running. 1672 02:02:54,048 --> 02:02:57,185 Now I know this event is about peace, 1673 02:02:57,218 --> 02:03:00,655 but it must be understood that the wealthy of this world, 1674 02:03:00,689 --> 02:03:05,694 those at the root of true political power are sick. 1675 02:03:05,726 --> 02:03:09,464 Their priorities have nothing to do with true progress. 1676 02:03:09,498 --> 02:03:12,101 And the time for tolerance is over. 1677 02:03:13,735 --> 02:03:17,639 The billionaire's of this world are not symbols of success. 1678 02:03:17,672 --> 02:03:20,676 They are symbols of violence. 1679 02:03:25,113 --> 02:03:27,016 And until that violence ends, 1680 02:03:29,717 --> 02:03:32,253 there will be no peace on this planet. 1681 02:04:06,754 --> 02:04:08,990 I am sorry, Peter. Can we cut? 1682 02:04:09,958 --> 02:04:11,026 Cut! 1683 02:04:13,194 --> 02:04:15,263 Well, it's, you know, it's this opening section. 1684 02:04:15,297 --> 02:04:19,635 I'm... I'm still not getting it. I know we've been through it but, uh, 1685 02:04:19,668 --> 02:04:21,870 - it's just not landing for me. - I'm just going to keep rolling here. 1686 02:04:21,903 --> 02:04:23,805 Can you grab that color swatch for me? 1687 02:04:23,837 --> 02:04:25,940 You have to think about the interpretation in reference 1688 02:04:25,973 --> 02:04:27,976 - to the... - All right. Thank you. 1689 02:04:30,145 --> 02:04:32,580 This tripod head is toilet. 1690 02:04:35,583 --> 02:04:37,685 You know, my latte was cold this morning. 1691 02:04:37,718 --> 02:04:39,620 And that's my problem because? 1692 02:04:39,654 --> 02:04:42,723 Okay, okay, I, I think I got it. 1693 02:04:42,757 --> 02:04:44,626 - Thanks. - No problem. All right 1694 02:04:44,659 --> 02:04:46,161 everybody, let's move. 1695 02:04:46,194 --> 02:04:49,330 Jesus, take a screenwriting class for Christ's sake. 1696 02:04:49,364 --> 02:04:52,301 No one's going to understand any of this shit. 1697 02:04:52,333 --> 02:04:53,801 - Camera? - Rolling. 1698 02:04:53,834 --> 02:04:55,770 - Audio? - Speeding. 1699 02:04:55,803 --> 02:04:57,071 Slate. 1700 02:04:57,105 --> 02:04:59,341 Scene 37, take 23. 1701 02:05:08,115 --> 02:05:10,886 What if I told you, John, what many see 1702 02:05:10,918 --> 02:05:15,289 as problems in the world are actually solutions in transition. 1703 02:05:15,323 --> 02:05:16,825 Is that some kind of Taoist riddle? 1704 02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:23,332 Poverty, crime, war, disease, even the ongoing 1705 02:05:23,364 --> 02:05:25,333 destruction of the habitat. 1706 02:05:25,367 --> 02:05:28,102 What if they were actually productive forces 1707 02:05:28,136 --> 02:05:29,939 assisting a larger end? 1708 02:05:31,038 --> 02:05:33,007 I'd suggest you lighten up on the Nietzsche. 1709 02:05:37,345 --> 02:05:40,649 What separate us from the rest of the animal kingdom 1710 02:05:40,681 --> 02:05:44,118 is that we have no natural predators. 1711 02:05:44,151 --> 02:05:47,989 Nothing out there to snatch us up for an afternoon snack. 1712 02:05:48,022 --> 02:05:52,727 We're also uniquely aware of our own mortality and fight it 1713 02:05:52,761 --> 02:05:56,765 with hospitals, medicine, inoculations. 1714 02:05:56,797 --> 02:05:59,800 Little stopping us from reproducing 1715 02:05:59,833 --> 02:06:02,336 to the very limit of our host, 1716 02:06:02,369 --> 02:06:04,305 at least not externally. 1717 02:06:04,338 --> 02:06:08,243 Evolution had to do something a bit different with us. 1718 02:06:09,310 --> 02:06:14,016 So, instead, we are our own predators. 1719 02:06:15,115 --> 02:06:17,352 Predator and prey in one. 1720 02:06:19,354 --> 02:06:20,388 How convenient. 1721 02:06:23,190 --> 02:06:26,360 Which explains not only why humans murder each other 1722 02:06:26,394 --> 02:06:30,132 at a rate unparalleled by any other species, 1723 02:06:30,164 --> 02:06:34,235 but also why we've generated a social structure 1724 02:06:34,269 --> 02:06:39,908 that by systemic force further ensures a consistent rate 1725 02:06:39,940 --> 02:06:41,843 of premature mortality. 1726 02:06:43,177 --> 02:06:47,082 - You mean structural violence. - Embedded into the very design 1727 02:06:47,114 --> 02:06:48,983 of civilization itself. 1728 02:06:50,318 --> 02:06:52,988 So that is what the Malthusian Mandate does, 1729 02:06:53,020 --> 02:06:54,889 regulate how to kill off the week. 1730 02:06:55,890 --> 02:06:59,461 No, the Mandate isn't a policy of action. 1731 02:06:59,494 --> 02:07:02,764 It's a policy of inaction, a commitment 1732 02:07:02,797 --> 02:07:05,901 not to interfere with the natural course of the system. 1733 02:07:07,202 --> 02:07:09,870 So the invisible hand of the market has a machete. 1734 02:07:16,377 --> 02:07:18,245 I don't expect to win you over, John. 1735 02:07:18,279 --> 02:07:20,214 I'm just telling you the way it is. 1736 02:07:20,248 --> 02:07:21,817 I agree it's ugly. 1737 02:07:21,850 --> 02:07:23,718 But without the premature death 1738 02:07:23,752 --> 02:07:26,788 that capitalism brings in the form of inequality 1739 02:07:26,820 --> 02:07:30,091 that planet would have flown off its access long ago. 1740 02:07:32,894 --> 02:07:33,962 As you know, 1741 02:07:34,962 --> 02:07:37,298 the Industrial Revolution set in motion 1742 02:07:37,332 --> 02:07:40,736 population growth that was hyperbolic. 1743 02:07:40,769 --> 02:07:43,805 And out of the 70 million who now die each year 1744 02:07:43,837 --> 02:07:46,774 30 million do so because of unequal conditions. 1745 02:07:47,542 --> 02:07:49,211 So 40 percent of all global deaths 1746 02:07:49,244 --> 02:07:50,779 are structurally inflicted, 1747 02:07:50,811 --> 02:07:52,446 you know, there's a word for that, Simon. 1748 02:07:52,480 --> 02:07:54,149 Oh, don't be dramatic. 1749 02:07:54,181 --> 02:07:57,251 Again, this is system-level behavior, John. 1750 02:07:57,284 --> 02:08:00,187 Not some nefarious conspiracy. 1751 02:08:00,221 --> 02:08:02,357 You want to know what the population would be 1752 02:08:02,390 --> 02:08:03,925 if this wasn't the case? 1753 02:08:03,958 --> 02:08:06,895 If we removed inequality driven mortality 1754 02:08:06,927 --> 02:08:10,231 for the last 100 years accounting for fertility, 1755 02:08:10,265 --> 02:08:12,434 about 16 billion would be sucking up 1756 02:08:12,467 --> 02:08:14,836 resources on that planet today 1757 02:08:14,869 --> 02:08:18,906 with a carrying capacity still at only ten billion. 1758 02:08:18,940 --> 02:08:21,009 And you think things are messing now. 1759 02:08:22,342 --> 02:08:24,311 First of all, Simon. 1760 02:08:24,345 --> 02:08:26,981 When the great Reverend Thomas Malthus decided 1761 02:08:27,015 --> 02:08:29,851 population would forever outpace resources, 1762 02:08:29,883 --> 02:08:31,520 only one billion existed. 1763 02:08:31,552 --> 02:08:34,890 We're almost ten times that now despite his projections. 1764 02:08:34,922 --> 02:08:36,223 Second, in the modern era, 1765 02:08:36,257 --> 02:08:37,559 the greatest predictor of regional 1766 02:08:37,592 --> 02:08:40,028 overpopulation is poverty itself. 1767 02:08:40,061 --> 02:08:42,898 If the world ever did abolish it, increasing education, 1768 02:08:42,931 --> 02:08:45,200 population growth would dramatically slow 1769 02:08:45,232 --> 02:08:47,936 likely approaching equilibrium. 1770 02:08:47,968 --> 02:08:50,404 Your 16 billion number doesn't account for that. 1771 02:08:50,437 --> 02:08:52,440 And third, you're completely disregarding 1772 02:08:52,472 --> 02:08:54,475 what the Fullerian study proved long ago, 1773 02:08:54,508 --> 02:08:56,578 a study sanctioned by your own department. 1774 02:08:56,610 --> 02:08:59,980 The Fullerian study was purely theoretical, John. 1775 02:09:00,013 --> 02:09:03,185 A model only possible if humans magically conform 1776 02:09:03,217 --> 02:09:06,854 to strict sustainability and efficiency principles. 1777 02:09:06,887 --> 02:09:09,557 It required a completely egalitarian 1778 02:09:09,591 --> 02:09:12,260 structure without money and markets. 1779 02:09:12,293 --> 02:09:16,565 A fantasy given once again the reality of human nature. 1780 02:09:16,597 --> 02:09:19,133 Fantasy or not, the study was clear. 1781 02:09:19,167 --> 02:09:21,837 Not only can the Earth hold upwards of 30 billion, 1782 02:09:21,869 --> 02:09:24,271 it can do so with each having a standard of living equivalent 1783 02:09:24,305 --> 02:09:26,074 to today's upper-middle-class. 1784 02:09:26,106 --> 02:09:29,043 Yeah, again, assuming equal distribution, 1785 02:09:29,077 --> 02:09:30,544 which is absurd. 1786 02:09:30,578 --> 02:09:32,547 Humans have infinite wants. 1787 02:09:32,579 --> 02:09:35,182 No... they don't. 1788 02:09:35,216 --> 02:09:37,986 Infinite wants is a value disorder, 1789 02:09:38,019 --> 02:09:41,056 inspired by an economy that needs infinite consumption to work. 1790 02:09:41,088 --> 02:09:44,158 People are just as prone to be minimalist as they are materialist. 1791 02:09:44,191 --> 02:09:46,293 Comes down to the social condition. 1792 02:09:46,327 --> 02:09:49,030 Today, if people didn't have highly acquisitive values, 1793 02:09:50,030 --> 02:09:51,632 the entire economy would collapse. 1794 02:09:51,665 --> 02:09:53,968 Fine, believe what you want, John. 1795 02:09:54,002 --> 02:09:56,037 It's all moot anyway. 1796 02:09:56,070 --> 02:09:58,073 You asked me what the Malthusian Mandate 1797 02:09:58,105 --> 02:10:00,007 was and I'm telling you. 1798 02:10:00,040 --> 02:10:01,275 Whether you like it or not, 1799 02:10:01,309 --> 02:10:04,245 this is the reality of things today. 1800 02:10:09,383 --> 02:10:10,985 We got Mandate metadata, 1801 02:10:11,019 --> 02:10:12,287 please tell me this is recording. 1802 02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:13,288 It certainly is. 1803 02:10:14,555 --> 02:10:16,458 Looks like John got his subterfuge. 1804 02:10:17,557 --> 02:10:19,426 So how's this organized then? 1805 02:10:19,459 --> 02:10:22,963 - Tracking demographics and mechanisms? - We are. 1806 02:10:22,997 --> 02:10:25,200 As you'll notice conditions related to absolute 1807 02:10:25,232 --> 02:10:27,468 poverty in the third world countries account 1808 02:10:27,502 --> 02:10:30,305 for about 40 percent of all premature deaths. 1809 02:10:30,337 --> 02:10:32,339 And I see you're also tracking poverty related illness 1810 02:10:32,373 --> 02:10:34,476 and violence in the industrialized nations. 1811 02:10:34,508 --> 02:10:37,578 With heart diseases, cancer and diabetes 1812 02:10:37,611 --> 02:10:39,180 remaining at the top, 1813 02:10:39,212 --> 02:10:41,348 while suicide, inner-city gang warfare 1814 02:10:41,382 --> 02:10:44,286 and drug overdoses coming a close second. 1815 02:10:44,319 --> 02:10:46,421 What about deep stomach relationships? 1816 02:10:46,454 --> 02:10:48,023 Lack of education, childhood stress? 1817 02:10:48,056 --> 02:10:50,091 Correlated as well. 1818 02:10:50,123 --> 02:10:52,327 Actually, very consistent. 1819 02:10:52,360 --> 02:10:56,330 Regional cycles of deprivation are like clockwork. 1820 02:10:56,364 --> 02:11:00,101 Poor families continue to produce more poor families, 1821 02:11:00,133 --> 02:11:03,238 - even in the richest states. - And the mechanisms? 1822 02:11:03,270 --> 02:11:06,340 Standard class war stuff. Only difference now 1823 02:11:06,373 --> 02:11:09,010 is ecological and climate crisis, 1824 02:11:09,043 --> 02:11:11,179 which has rapidly increased mortality 1825 02:11:11,212 --> 02:11:14,449 in poverty-stricken desert and coastal regions. 1826 02:11:14,481 --> 02:11:16,484 But the same story otherwise. 1827 02:11:16,516 --> 02:11:19,053 The rich get richer with disproportional 1828 02:11:19,087 --> 02:11:20,689 opportunity in capital. 1829 02:11:20,721 --> 02:11:22,256 The political establishment 1830 02:11:22,289 --> 02:11:24,525 favors business and wealthy interests 1831 02:11:24,559 --> 02:11:26,994 over social support programs, 1832 02:11:27,028 --> 02:11:31,065 and the banking system keeps a solid stranglehold on social 1833 02:11:31,098 --> 02:11:36,203 mobility by saturating the lower class in insurmountable debt. 1834 02:11:36,236 --> 02:11:38,138 Same on the global level 1835 02:11:38,172 --> 02:11:40,508 through international finance institutions, 1836 02:11:40,540 --> 02:11:44,511 structural adjustments, austerity sanctions. 1837 02:11:44,544 --> 02:11:47,382 In fact, the financial system is really 1838 02:11:47,414 --> 02:11:50,284 the glue that holds all this together 1839 02:11:50,318 --> 02:11:52,686 keeping constant downward pressure 1840 02:11:52,720 --> 02:11:55,289 on the impecunious masses. 1841 02:14:02,883 --> 02:14:07,855 Final warning. Please evacuate proximal region. 1842 02:14:09,156 --> 02:14:12,860 Program will commence in ten, 1843 02:14:12,894 --> 02:14:19,501 nine, eight, seven, six, 1844 02:14:19,534 --> 02:14:22,637 five, four... 1845 02:15:01,242 --> 02:15:04,512 Centuries ago humans discovered hydrocarbon energy, 1846 02:15:04,544 --> 02:15:06,881 fossil fuels, and for a good chunk of time, 1847 02:15:06,913 --> 02:15:10,350 it was a critical mechanism advancing civilization, 1848 02:15:10,383 --> 02:15:12,386 but after a while it became obvious that 1849 02:15:12,419 --> 02:15:15,923 its continued use posed insurmountable repercussions, 1850 02:15:15,957 --> 02:15:17,892 damaging the environment. 1851 02:15:17,925 --> 02:15:20,328 So we eventually had to stop using it completely, 1852 02:15:20,360 --> 02:15:23,430 figuring out other means. And this is a good analogy 1853 02:15:23,463 --> 02:15:27,668 as to why we also needed to transcend that social system. 1854 02:15:27,702 --> 02:15:29,537 I look at capitalism 1855 02:15:29,570 --> 02:15:32,874 as an adolescent stage in the growth of civilization. 1856 02:15:32,906 --> 02:15:36,543 Let's let loose and have people be selfish building and creating 1857 02:15:36,577 --> 02:15:40,614 in a belligerent manner with no regard for consequences. 1858 02:15:40,647 --> 02:15:43,618 And we learned a lot. I think without this phase, 1859 02:15:43,650 --> 02:15:46,687 we wouldn't have been able to recognize and amplify 1860 02:15:46,721 --> 02:15:49,624 what really makes us unique as a species. 1861 02:15:49,656 --> 02:15:52,493 We started as DNA moving from simplicity 1862 02:15:52,525 --> 02:15:55,796 to complexity evolving a brain with consciousness, 1863 02:15:55,829 --> 02:15:58,365 while blessed with a profound social nature, 1864 02:15:58,399 --> 02:16:00,968 merging us into a truly global consciousness 1865 02:16:01,002 --> 02:16:03,571 continuing this expansion. 1866 02:16:03,604 --> 02:16:06,374 Not through our biology but through the sharing 1867 02:16:06,406 --> 02:16:09,276 of knowledge, cultural evolution. 1868 02:16:10,444 --> 02:16:13,615 There was a great library in a city called Alexandria 1869 02:16:13,647 --> 02:16:16,484 long, long ago, and it contained some of the most 1870 02:16:16,516 --> 02:16:19,553 foundational texts of human civilization. 1871 02:16:19,587 --> 02:16:22,323 And sadly it was destroyed in war. 1872 02:16:22,355 --> 02:16:24,591 Many centuries later, a famous astronomer named 1873 02:16:24,624 --> 02:16:26,927 Carl Sagan, commented on the subject, 1874 02:16:38,472 --> 02:16:41,042 So the great question of scientific and hence, 1875 02:16:41,074 --> 02:16:44,545 economic progress, inevitably becomes, 1876 02:16:50,518 --> 02:16:53,354 How do we harness our different talents and skills 1877 02:16:53,386 --> 02:16:55,890 to bring out our best potential, 1878 02:16:55,922 --> 02:16:59,060 not only as individuals, but as a civilization? 1879 02:16:59,092 --> 02:17:01,329 We know the hardware, so to speak. 1880 02:17:01,361 --> 02:17:04,298 A finite yet profoundly regenerative planet 1881 02:17:04,331 --> 02:17:05,999 bound by laws of nature 1882 02:17:06,033 --> 02:17:08,836 with our species part of a delicate ecosystem 1883 02:17:08,868 --> 02:17:11,038 sharing common ground. 1884 02:17:11,072 --> 02:17:13,675 The true measure of economic progress 1885 02:17:13,707 --> 02:17:15,943 is simply doing more with less. 1886 02:17:15,975 --> 02:17:19,780 Efficiency, the ability to build something for a given purpose 1887 02:17:19,813 --> 02:17:23,417 that is not only better than what came before it in utility, 1888 02:17:23,450 --> 02:17:26,753 but also better in terms of reducing the amount of labor, 1889 02:17:26,786 --> 02:17:30,057 energy and resources required to make it work. 1890 02:17:30,090 --> 02:17:33,827 Which means it all comes down to design. 1891 02:17:34,795 --> 02:17:36,698 And back to my point about markets, 1892 02:17:36,731 --> 02:17:39,066 the infrastructure it created set the groundwork 1893 02:17:39,099 --> 02:17:42,869 for powerful new means to merge human talent and skill. 1894 02:17:42,902 --> 02:17:46,006 We just needed to remove the counter-productive aspects. 1895 02:17:46,039 --> 02:17:48,842 And, needless to say, wasteful human competition, 1896 02:17:48,875 --> 02:17:52,946 proprietary knowledge, and people motivated to sell things over and over 1897 02:17:52,980 --> 02:17:57,018 to feed a system of infinite growth wasn't going to work. 1898 02:17:57,051 --> 02:18:00,822 There had to be a way to bridge minds and solve problems directly, 1899 02:18:00,855 --> 02:18:04,559 not by proxy of market competition and profit. 1900 02:18:04,591 --> 02:18:06,993 I think the smartest thing we ever did as a society 1901 02:18:07,027 --> 02:18:11,132 was the adoption of an open source, shared resource commons. 1902 02:18:11,164 --> 02:18:14,702 It exponentially catapulted our problem solving creativity. 1903 02:18:14,734 --> 02:18:17,571 We ended corporations, localized communities, 1904 02:18:17,605 --> 02:18:19,573 and shared all knowledge. 1905 02:18:19,607 --> 02:18:21,409 In fact, if it wasn't for that move, 1906 02:18:21,441 --> 02:18:23,744 I really don't think we would've solved the climate crisis 1907 02:18:23,777 --> 02:18:26,446 and all the other ecological and social problems 1908 02:18:26,480 --> 02:18:28,116 we faced before the Great Transition. 1909 02:18:29,082 --> 02:18:32,720 I still stand in awe today at the stunningly productive 1910 02:18:32,752 --> 02:18:35,489 collective design processes we created, 1911 02:18:35,522 --> 02:18:39,726 where status is driven not by differential competition for gain, 1912 02:18:39,759 --> 02:18:42,129 but by the degree of your contribution: 1913 02:18:42,162 --> 02:18:45,031 how dedicated you are to problem solving and creation, 1914 02:18:45,064 --> 02:18:48,970 working to improve the fabric of society itself. 1915 02:18:49,002 --> 02:18:52,706 We also realized the true purpose of a means of production 1916 02:18:52,740 --> 02:18:55,176 based upon automated technology. 1917 02:18:55,208 --> 02:18:57,578 Not as some brute industrial mechanism 1918 02:18:57,610 --> 02:19:00,481 to produce an endless stream of arbitrary goods, 1919 02:19:00,513 --> 02:19:04,018 but as a way to free ourselves from uncreative labor, 1920 02:19:04,051 --> 02:19:07,588 not to mention improving efficiency and safety. 1921 02:19:07,620 --> 02:19:09,857 And one final evolution worth noting 1922 02:19:09,890 --> 02:19:12,693 was the removal of the price system. 1923 02:19:12,725 --> 02:19:15,128 People stuck these numbers on everything 1924 02:19:15,161 --> 02:19:18,899 that suggested some kind of earthly value. 1925 02:19:18,932 --> 02:19:22,937 The numbers were a result of a particularly crude equation 1926 02:19:22,970 --> 02:19:25,473 dealing with the supply and demand. 1927 02:19:25,506 --> 02:19:27,775 And while the high priests of the market religion 1928 02:19:27,807 --> 02:19:30,845 saw those price decrees as the word of God, 1929 02:19:30,877 --> 02:19:34,815 the truth was any price value determined by market dynamics alone 1930 02:19:34,849 --> 02:19:36,918 was woefully incomplete. 1931 02:19:36,950 --> 02:19:38,852 And the only term to know in regard to that 1932 02:19:38,885 --> 02:19:41,721 is negative market externality. 1933 02:19:41,754 --> 02:19:45,827 These are cost values unaccounted for by the market price equation 1934 02:19:45,859 --> 02:19:48,028 related to damage done by industry. 1935 02:19:48,062 --> 02:19:50,465 For example, in the early 21st century, 1936 02:19:50,498 --> 02:19:54,836 the running price of hydrocarbon energy was in a particular range. 1937 02:19:54,868 --> 02:19:57,003 But yet, there was actually an additional 1938 02:19:57,036 --> 02:20:00,675 5.3 trillion dollars in cost every year 1939 02:20:00,707 --> 02:20:02,843 as people worked to clean up the damage 1940 02:20:02,876 --> 02:20:06,012 the use of hydrocarbons was doing to the planet. 1941 02:20:06,045 --> 02:20:09,950 Same for the plastics industry, a serious problem back then. 1942 02:20:09,983 --> 02:20:15,555 It had an externalized cost of 2.5 trillion dollars a year 1943 02:20:15,589 --> 02:20:17,792 just to clean up the oceans. 1944 02:20:17,824 --> 02:20:19,759 In fact, if you went back 1945 02:20:19,793 --> 02:20:22,762 and did the accounting for global industry as a whole 1946 02:20:22,795 --> 02:20:25,499 factoring in these negative market externalities, 1947 02:20:25,533 --> 02:20:28,569 again, these costs not reflected in the set prices, 1948 02:20:28,601 --> 02:20:31,571 you would find that no company on the planet 1949 02:20:31,605 --> 02:20:33,173 was actually even profitable. 1950 02:20:34,073 --> 02:20:37,777 So, of course today we have a very different system of accounting. 1951 02:20:37,811 --> 02:20:42,182 We know almost exactly what's happening or could happen in downstream effects 1952 02:20:42,215 --> 02:20:46,686 and we improve our total system efficiency every single year because of it. 1953 02:20:46,720 --> 02:20:49,189 It's a true economy, in other words. 1954 02:20:50,257 --> 02:20:53,727 And all of this creates a very different social atmosphere. 1955 02:20:53,760 --> 02:20:56,296 Today our incentives are aligned. 1956 02:20:56,330 --> 02:20:58,866 No one cuts corners, there's no reason to. 1957 02:20:58,899 --> 02:21:01,068 No one is trying to improve some bottom line 1958 02:21:01,100 --> 02:21:03,637 by disregarding our ecological stewardship 1959 02:21:03,670 --> 02:21:05,772 or the well-being of others. 1960 02:21:05,805 --> 02:21:07,908 We finally got it right. 1961 02:21:07,941 --> 02:21:09,743 And I compare the footage of the way 1962 02:21:09,777 --> 02:21:13,080 people behaved back then to the way they do now. 1963 02:21:13,113 --> 02:21:17,885 It's an astounding amount of pride and community, meaning and purpose. 1964 02:21:17,918 --> 02:21:20,654 They don't feel alone. 1965 02:21:20,688 --> 02:21:24,058 They know they have support, not just from their friends and family, 1966 02:21:24,090 --> 02:21:27,294 but from the very design of the social system itself, 1967 02:21:28,261 --> 02:21:30,731 a system designed to actually care. 1968 02:21:33,233 --> 02:21:34,135 Imagine that. 1969 02:24:21,367 --> 02:24:23,303 The low polygon people are here. 1970 02:24:30,243 --> 02:24:33,114 I wish they'd go back to their own resolution. 1971 02:26:10,577 --> 02:26:13,413 How are you still standing? What is that your tenth drink? 1972 02:26:21,654 --> 02:26:22,856 Apple juice. 1973 02:26:25,091 --> 02:26:26,126 What's that? 1974 02:26:27,627 --> 02:26:30,497 That is a breach alarm. 1975 02:26:30,529 --> 02:26:33,400 Looks like Orion is continuing through our security. 1976 02:26:34,367 --> 02:26:37,437 And on that note, John, I need to know your intent. 1977 02:26:37,471 --> 02:26:41,307 I've explained the Mandate and how it's far bigger than both of us. 1978 02:26:41,340 --> 02:26:44,043 Policy of inaction is still a policy of action, Simon. 1979 02:26:44,077 --> 02:26:46,347 Well, if you'd like, we could continue 1980 02:26:46,379 --> 02:26:48,414 this colorful debate another time. 1981 02:26:48,447 --> 02:26:50,851 Assuming you're willing to assist us here now. 1982 02:26:53,420 --> 02:26:56,190 Signal source, what are the regional markers? 1983 02:26:58,926 --> 02:27:01,127 Well... 1984 02:27:01,161 --> 02:27:02,596 ...that's part of the problem. 1985 02:27:02,628 --> 02:27:04,464 The best we have is a desert region 1986 02:27:04,498 --> 02:27:05,932 on the west side of North America 1987 02:27:05,965 --> 02:27:08,068 about 10,000 square miles. 1988 02:27:08,100 --> 02:27:10,403 It's not too horrible. I assume your satellites 1989 02:27:10,437 --> 02:27:12,206 have been scanning more remote terrain. 1990 02:27:12,239 --> 02:27:15,242 Of course, nothing out of the ordinary has been seen. 1991 02:27:15,275 --> 02:27:18,279 What about surveillance gaps? Are the satellite passes seamless? 1992 02:27:18,312 --> 02:27:21,448 For the most part, there are some periodic latitudinal gaps, 1993 02:27:21,481 --> 02:27:23,517 but they only last a few hours. 1994 02:27:23,550 --> 02:27:26,587 Is it possible Orion is aware of them? Exploiting them? 1995 02:27:28,622 --> 02:27:31,224 - That's what I'd do. - I suppose, 1996 02:27:31,258 --> 02:27:32,693 but highly unlikely. 1997 02:27:32,725 --> 02:27:34,627 They would have to already be in our system 1998 02:27:34,661 --> 02:27:36,297 to know the trajectories. 1999 02:27:37,263 --> 02:27:38,331 Show me the gaps. 2000 02:27:41,600 --> 02:27:42,636 You want my help or not? 2001 02:27:50,743 --> 02:27:52,212 Zoom into the area in question. 2002 02:27:54,348 --> 02:27:55,582 Perfect. 2003 02:27:55,615 --> 02:27:57,184 Hold it right there, John. 2004 02:27:58,685 --> 02:28:01,221 We've already conducted sub sonar scans. 2005 02:28:01,253 --> 02:28:04,490 If they're underground, they're using some kind of reflective shield. 2006 02:28:04,524 --> 02:28:06,293 But what I think would be best for you 2007 02:28:06,325 --> 02:28:08,428 is to analyze the signal code itself, 2008 02:28:08,462 --> 02:28:10,364 see if you can find a signature. 2009 02:28:14,434 --> 02:28:15,436 John? 2010 02:28:16,570 --> 02:28:19,172 Yeah, sorry, I was just thinking. 2011 02:28:20,406 --> 02:28:24,178 Hey, remember that Aqua Terraformation project we worked on years ago? 2012 02:28:25,679 --> 02:28:27,715 Sounds like you need to get some sleep. 2013 02:28:27,748 --> 02:28:30,083 Your attention span is going. 2014 02:28:30,116 --> 02:28:32,118 And of course... 2015 02:28:32,152 --> 02:28:36,457 ...how can I forget? Ionized nanotech pop-up islands 2016 02:28:36,490 --> 02:28:37,524 from seawater. 2017 02:28:37,556 --> 02:28:39,759 Too bad it never worked. 2018 02:28:39,793 --> 02:28:41,595 We could've extended populations 2019 02:28:41,627 --> 02:28:44,063 into the ocean, free up some space. 2020 02:28:44,097 --> 02:28:44,999 Yeah. 2021 02:28:45,965 --> 02:28:48,334 What other ambitious stuff did we work on? 2022 02:28:48,367 --> 02:28:49,703 Those were some exciting times. 2023 02:28:51,037 --> 02:28:52,305 Remember TRD Hollow Cloak? 2024 02:28:52,339 --> 02:28:54,074 Huh! 2025 02:28:54,107 --> 02:28:55,509 A sci-fi classic. 2026 02:28:55,542 --> 02:28:58,079 Tactile remote drone hologram. 2027 02:28:59,111 --> 02:29:01,482 We played with that for a while here, 2028 02:29:01,515 --> 02:29:03,017 but proved impossible, 2029 02:29:03,050 --> 02:29:05,351 light just can't merge like that. 2030 02:29:05,384 --> 02:29:07,320 Yeah. Too bad. 2031 02:29:08,455 --> 02:29:12,026 Lots of uses for a fully controlled remote tactile human hologram. 2032 02:29:39,218 --> 02:29:40,120 Cool, huh? 2033 02:29:46,526 --> 02:29:48,361 And it's at this juncture, Simon, 2034 02:29:48,394 --> 02:29:49,729 I'm afraid I have to deliver some kind 2035 02:29:49,762 --> 02:29:51,597 of protagonistical declaration 2036 02:29:51,631 --> 02:29:53,500 of moral superiority 2037 02:29:53,533 --> 02:29:56,337 to indicate the philosophical error of your ways. 2038 02:29:57,471 --> 02:29:58,305 So here it goes. 2039 02:30:00,140 --> 02:30:02,742 Those that seek to create in this world, 2040 02:30:02,776 --> 02:30:06,113 those who embrace change as a natural force, 2041 02:30:06,145 --> 02:30:09,449 helping to unify humankind as one entity 2042 02:30:09,483 --> 02:30:11,418 in one shared direction, 2043 02:30:11,450 --> 02:30:13,753 realizing that injustice anywhere 2044 02:30:13,786 --> 02:30:15,388 is injustice everywhere, 2045 02:30:16,456 --> 02:30:20,160 will always be one step ahead of the traditionalists, 2046 02:30:20,193 --> 02:30:22,662 the preservers, the elitists, 2047 02:30:22,696 --> 02:30:26,733 who, in defense of their separatist identities and egoist fears, 2048 02:30:26,766 --> 02:30:32,138 seek to divide, conquer, oppress and destroy. 2049 02:30:33,206 --> 02:30:36,176 The pursuit of livingry will always be one step ahead 2050 02:30:36,208 --> 02:30:37,410 of the pursuit of weaponry. 2051 02:30:40,614 --> 02:30:43,617 Orion doesn't exist, does it? 2052 02:30:43,650 --> 02:30:45,385 Nope. 2053 02:30:45,418 --> 02:30:47,221 We just put a virus in your firewall. 2054 02:30:48,420 --> 02:30:50,756 Why? What's the point of all of this? 2055 02:30:50,789 --> 02:30:52,526 To expose the Mandate, of course, 2056 02:30:52,559 --> 02:30:53,593 which will be leaked shortly 2057 02:30:53,626 --> 02:30:54,660 to every major news network. 2058 02:30:55,861 --> 02:30:58,899 Oh, seriously, that's it? 2059 02:30:58,931 --> 02:31:01,901 You think we can't absorb that? 2060 02:31:01,935 --> 02:31:04,537 That we haven't perfected endless ways 2061 02:31:04,571 --> 02:31:07,708 to deflate and confuse public perception when needed? 2062 02:31:07,741 --> 02:31:10,511 Well, then I guess you have nothing to worry about. 2063 02:31:11,477 --> 02:31:12,545 See you around, Simon. 2064 02:31:28,428 --> 02:31:32,199 - Hey, token white guy is back! - Shut up. 2065 02:31:32,232 --> 02:31:33,934 All right, folks. We don't have much time. 2066 02:31:33,966 --> 02:31:35,902 I don't think he's going to buy that story for long. 2067 02:31:35,936 --> 02:31:37,671 How're we doing? 2068 02:31:37,704 --> 02:31:40,306 Satellite coordinates locked, everything's ready. 2069 02:31:40,340 --> 02:31:42,876 But keep in mind, even with bypassing your surveillance, 2070 02:31:42,909 --> 02:31:45,511 once this thing hits, the heat signature is going to be out of control. 2071 02:31:45,545 --> 02:31:47,681 That's what the subterfuge is for. 2072 02:31:47,714 --> 02:31:50,217 - Mandate leak on the blockchain yet? - Packaging now. 2073 02:31:50,250 --> 02:31:52,586 Should be in the hands of every major media outlet in about 20 minutes. 2074 02:31:52,618 --> 02:31:54,488 Good. 2075 02:31:54,520 --> 02:31:56,890 Don't forget to show Simon's stupid face. 2076 02:31:56,922 --> 02:32:00,427 So this is it folks. We have a clear path avoiding GSA surveillance. 2077 02:32:00,459 --> 02:32:02,428 Once the Mandate exposure hits the press, 2078 02:32:02,462 --> 02:32:04,698 Simon and company will be in damage control, 2079 02:32:04,731 --> 02:32:06,634 hopefully long enough so we can pull this off. 2080 02:32:07,833 --> 02:32:08,868 Anybody need anything? 2081 02:32:08,902 --> 02:32:10,337 - Music. - Music. 2082 02:32:10,369 --> 02:32:11,739 - Music. - Music. 2083 02:32:13,240 --> 02:32:13,940 You got it. 2084 02:33:44,063 --> 02:33:46,332 - - All right, everybody, come on. 2085 02:33:46,366 --> 02:33:48,802 We got... we got to finish this goddamn movie already. 2086 02:33:48,834 --> 02:33:51,738 Left. Right. Left. 2087 02:34:24,536 --> 02:34:26,539 Responding to this new leak by Concordia, 2088 02:34:26,572 --> 02:34:28,708 purporting to reveal a policy of neglect, 2089 02:34:28,741 --> 02:34:30,409 where the death of millions in poverty 2090 02:34:30,443 --> 02:34:31,945 was deliberately accentuated 2091 02:34:31,977 --> 02:34:34,348 by International Trade policy. 2092 02:34:34,381 --> 02:34:36,415 Leaked documents even include what appears to be 2093 02:34:36,448 --> 02:34:38,985 a video of GSA's current head, Simon Devoe. 2094 02:34:47,393 --> 02:34:48,728 Don't look at me like that. 2095 02:34:48,761 --> 02:34:51,364 Standard operating procedure, folks. 2096 02:34:51,397 --> 02:34:54,500 Get your media agents out there and start changing the narrative. 2097 02:35:04,476 --> 02:35:05,979 Sir. 2098 02:35:07,913 --> 02:35:09,649 - What is it? - I don't know. 2099 02:35:09,681 --> 02:35:12,485 We don't have visual coverage in that region yet. 2100 02:35:12,518 --> 02:35:13,453 Send the drones. 2101 02:35:29,068 --> 02:35:30,770 Holy shit, it worked. 2102 02:35:30,804 --> 02:35:32,406 Shall we alert the base? 2103 02:35:32,438 --> 02:35:33,139 Indeed. 2104 02:35:34,072 --> 02:35:35,574 The migration begins. 2105 02:35:38,777 --> 02:35:40,880 It's an artificial island, Sir, 2106 02:35:40,913 --> 02:35:44,750 in the Pacific, about 700 miles off the coast of North America. 2107 02:35:46,786 --> 02:35:49,456 Holy shit, it worked. 2108 02:35:50,723 --> 02:35:52,592 Scramble fighters to destroy it? 2109 02:35:52,625 --> 02:35:55,796 No. See this? 2110 02:35:55,829 --> 02:35:59,466 It's a plasma congealed electromagnetic field, 2111 02:35:59,499 --> 02:36:01,735 - impenetrable. - How do you know that? 2112 02:36:02,734 --> 02:36:04,504 Because I know the creator. 2113 02:36:07,539 --> 02:36:09,008 And sing. 2114 02:36:36,768 --> 02:36:39,238 So, we've just arrived at the colony of Concordia, 2115 02:36:39,271 --> 02:36:41,040 where almost a million people have migrated 2116 02:36:41,073 --> 02:36:43,876 to basically get away from the rest of the world. 2117 02:36:43,910 --> 02:36:46,546 We are the first press allowed in, 2118 02:36:46,579 --> 02:36:48,515 waiting to meet our guide. 2119 02:36:50,682 --> 02:36:53,186 - Hi, I'm Elnoria. - Nice to meet you. 2120 02:36:53,218 --> 02:36:54,753 Thank you for having us. 2121 02:36:54,786 --> 02:36:56,188 I suggest we move to the city center, 2122 02:36:56,222 --> 02:36:57,958 start our tour from there. 2123 02:36:57,991 --> 02:37:00,127 You can cut. 2124 02:37:06,099 --> 02:37:08,235 So, there's been a lot of speculation on the mainland 2125 02:37:08,268 --> 02:37:10,102 about what goes on here. 2126 02:37:10,135 --> 02:37:12,905 You're depicted as some kind of a cult. 2127 02:37:12,938 --> 02:37:14,740 Claims of human right abuses, 2128 02:37:14,774 --> 02:37:17,843 and your media is being censored pretty aggressively. 2129 02:37:17,876 --> 02:37:20,045 Well, that's why you're here. 2130 02:37:20,079 --> 02:37:22,616 This island wasn't created to escape the world, 2131 02:37:22,649 --> 02:37:26,086 it was created to set an example to change the world, 2132 02:37:26,118 --> 02:37:29,822 show what's actually possible if humankind decided to work together. 2133 02:37:29,856 --> 02:37:32,057 So, where would you like to start? 2134 02:37:32,090 --> 02:37:33,959 I guess technicals. 2135 02:37:33,992 --> 02:37:35,528 How are you powering this place? 2136 02:37:36,596 --> 02:37:38,865 Mixed renewable integration. 2137 02:37:38,897 --> 02:37:42,802 The island's core baseload systems are solar, wind and ocean, 2138 02:37:42,834 --> 02:37:44,937 while localized kinetic energy capture, 2139 02:37:44,971 --> 02:37:46,706 mixed use, reuse mechanisms, 2140 02:37:46,739 --> 02:37:48,775 are designed into most everything. 2141 02:37:48,807 --> 02:37:50,109 Like footsteps? 2142 02:37:50,143 --> 02:37:52,045 Footsteps, vehicle motion, 2143 02:37:52,078 --> 02:37:55,982 pipe flows, anything that moves, we recapture. 2144 02:37:56,015 --> 02:37:58,217 We're at about 5,000 percent efficiency, 2145 02:37:58,250 --> 02:38:00,719 more energy than we know what to do with. 2146 02:38:00,752 --> 02:38:02,221 That's insane. 2147 02:38:02,254 --> 02:38:03,789 Not really. 2148 02:38:03,822 --> 02:38:04,990 The earth is, in effect, 2149 02:38:05,024 --> 02:38:06,893 a perpetual motion machine. 2150 02:38:06,926 --> 02:38:09,796 You people on the mainland could easily do the same thing, 2151 02:38:09,829 --> 02:38:13,833 but your economic system simply isn't conducive to integrative design. 2152 02:38:13,866 --> 02:38:17,070 Speaking of which, let's head to the development center around the corner. 2153 02:38:17,102 --> 02:38:18,037 Okay. 2154 02:38:24,043 --> 02:38:26,113 This is one of our design facilities. 2155 02:38:27,245 --> 02:38:29,949 Okay. Like an office. 2156 02:38:31,216 --> 02:38:32,752 So these people are employed. 2157 02:38:34,386 --> 02:38:37,891 Employed. Um, I suppose in the most technical sense of the word, sure. 2158 02:38:37,923 --> 02:38:39,992 But we have no systemic slavery here. 2159 02:38:40,026 --> 02:38:43,096 No one is coerced to submit for their basic survival, 2160 02:38:43,128 --> 02:38:45,632 something I suspect might be very foreign to you. 2161 02:38:46,866 --> 02:38:49,269 But everyone needs to do something, right? 2162 02:38:49,302 --> 02:38:53,106 So how do you network skills, organized trade, markets? 2163 02:38:53,138 --> 02:38:54,807 There is no trade. 2164 02:38:54,840 --> 02:38:57,810 There are no markets. There is no currency. 2165 02:38:57,843 --> 02:39:00,714 Those who wish to contribute do so through collaborative design 2166 02:39:00,747 --> 02:39:02,915 in an open source environment. 2167 02:39:02,948 --> 02:39:05,618 What you think of as industries of production on the mainland 2168 02:39:05,652 --> 02:39:06,920 is unified here. 2169 02:39:06,953 --> 02:39:08,120 Wait, I don't understand. 2170 02:39:09,322 --> 02:39:11,124 These people are not paid to be here? 2171 02:39:12,925 --> 02:39:14,327 How are they motivated? 2172 02:39:14,359 --> 02:39:16,629 Well, how is anyone motivated? 2173 02:39:16,662 --> 02:39:19,298 Do you need to get paid to get out of bed in the morning? 2174 02:39:19,331 --> 02:39:21,667 Do you need to be paid to ensure your own health, 2175 02:39:21,700 --> 02:39:24,003 the health of your family and friends? 2176 02:39:24,036 --> 02:39:27,906 Paid to show stewardship for the habitat and society that supports you? 2177 02:39:27,939 --> 02:39:31,243 - How about innovation? - Innovation to what end? 2178 02:39:31,277 --> 02:39:35,048 To create something to improve life and experience? 2179 02:39:35,081 --> 02:39:36,750 Or to create something to sell? 2180 02:39:38,318 --> 02:39:42,088 If you think about it, it has been the blind economic drive toward innovation, 2181 02:39:42,120 --> 02:39:44,423 as you know it, that continues to lead your society 2182 02:39:44,456 --> 02:39:46,925 - to destruction - Okay, then. 2183 02:39:46,958 --> 02:39:49,161 Once these people have designed something, then what? 2184 02:39:50,128 --> 02:39:51,897 If a design meets proper criteria 2185 02:39:51,930 --> 02:39:54,767 in terms of efficiency and sustainability protocols, 2186 02:39:54,801 --> 02:39:58,838 it is then accessible by our mostly additive manufacturing system. 2187 02:39:58,870 --> 02:40:01,173 Additive? 3D printers? 2188 02:40:01,206 --> 02:40:03,976 Which have been perfected to a degree where modular arrays 2189 02:40:04,009 --> 02:40:07,680 can produce most anything conceived of with traditional material. 2190 02:40:11,116 --> 02:40:13,285 And by the way, there's no waste here. 2191 02:40:13,319 --> 02:40:16,021 Our AI designed filters won't allow production of any item 2192 02:40:16,054 --> 02:40:18,157 that isn't 100% regenerative. 2193 02:40:20,159 --> 02:40:21,961 Sorry, I'm speechless. 2194 02:40:21,993 --> 02:40:23,230 If what you say is true, 2195 02:40:24,162 --> 02:40:25,731 you've actually done it. 2196 02:40:25,765 --> 02:40:26,800 Done what? 2197 02:40:26,832 --> 02:40:28,233 You've created Utopia. 2198 02:40:29,868 --> 02:40:31,904 If you want to sound like an idiot, sure. 2199 02:40:32,904 --> 02:40:37,009 This isn't Utopia, friend. It's simply pragmatic design. 2200 02:40:37,043 --> 02:40:39,813 Come, let me now show you our democratic system, 2201 02:40:39,846 --> 02:40:42,015 how we use direct democracy to eliminate politicians 2202 02:40:42,047 --> 02:40:43,382 and control problems. 2203 02:40:43,415 --> 02:40:45,418 What? No elections? 2204 02:40:45,450 --> 02:40:48,053 - No goons? - God, no. 2205 02:40:48,087 --> 02:40:51,257 Whoa. So... so where do I sign up? 2206 02:40:51,289 --> 02:40:53,325 I want to join your cult as soon as possible. 2207 02:40:53,358 --> 02:40:55,928 - I'll see what I can do. - Please. 2208 02:40:55,962 --> 02:40:57,796 I don't know if I can take much more. 2209 02:41:00,432 --> 02:41:02,334 So, I'm afraid we're going to have to wrap this up for now, 2210 02:41:02,367 --> 02:41:04,269 but a... as we discussed, I will be back 2211 02:41:04,303 --> 02:41:06,306 for the second part of this interview fairly soon, 2212 02:41:06,339 --> 02:41:09,242 uh, specifically to discuss the colony of Concordia 2213 02:41:09,275 --> 02:41:11,411 and their historical influence. 2214 02:41:11,444 --> 02:41:14,513 Sure. So what's the name of the documentary? 2215 02:41:14,546 --> 02:41:16,348 InterReflections. 2216 02:41:16,382 --> 02:41:18,350 - Interesting. - But before we end, 2217 02:41:18,384 --> 02:41:20,053 I have a rather strange request. 2218 02:41:21,821 --> 02:41:26,126 If you could address those vulnerable, confused souls, 2219 02:41:26,159 --> 02:41:27,761 you know, before the Great Transition, 2220 02:41:27,794 --> 02:41:28,895 given, as you put it earlier, 2221 02:41:28,928 --> 02:41:30,464 we barely made it at all, 2222 02:41:32,030 --> 02:41:33,199 what would you say to them? 2223 02:41:34,332 --> 02:41:36,837 Wow, that is a strange request. 2224 02:41:37,837 --> 02:41:38,805 Hm. 2225 02:41:39,671 --> 02:41:41,840 I think I would paraphrase the words 2226 02:41:41,874 --> 02:41:43,543 of a notable civil rights activist 2227 02:41:43,575 --> 02:41:46,980 from the mid-20th century named Bayard Rustin. 2228 02:41:50,917 --> 02:41:51,885 And he said, 2229 02:41:54,286 --> 02:41:55,387 "You are all one. 2230 02:41:56,654 --> 02:42:00,927 And if you don't know it, you're going to find out the hard way." 2231 02:42:06,365 --> 02:42:08,935 ♪ It's a bacchanalia ♪ 2232 02:42:08,967 --> 02:42:11,303 ♪ It's a cornucopia ♪ 2233 02:42:11,337 --> 02:42:13,272 ♪ Champagne and a caviar ♪ 2234 02:42:13,305 --> 02:42:16,208 ♪ What else is there? ♪ 2235 02:42:16,241 --> 02:42:18,544 ♪ Swimming pool and fancy yacht ♪ 2236 02:42:18,578 --> 02:42:21,247 ♪ Vacation in the south of France ♪ 2237 02:42:21,279 --> 02:42:23,182 ♪ You got anything you want ♪ 2238 02:42:23,215 --> 02:42:25,584 ♪ What else is there? ♪ 2239 02:42:25,617 --> 02:42:28,153 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2240 02:42:28,187 --> 02:42:30,557 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2241 02:42:30,590 --> 02:42:33,293 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2242 02:42:33,325 --> 02:42:35,461 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2243 02:42:35,493 --> 02:42:38,063 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2244 02:42:38,097 --> 02:42:40,432 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2245 02:42:40,465 --> 02:42:43,268 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2246 02:42:43,302 --> 02:42:45,404 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2247 02:42:51,009 --> 02:42:53,178 ♪ Your company has rising stock ♪ 2248 02:42:53,212 --> 02:42:55,582 ♪ Cheaper labor in the eastern block ♪ 2249 02:42:55,615 --> 02:42:57,917 ♪ No complaining in the sweat shop ♪ 2250 02:42:57,949 --> 02:43:00,552 ♪ What else is there? ♪ 2251 02:43:00,586 --> 02:43:03,089 ♪ Making deals in the back room ♪ 2252 02:43:03,122 --> 02:43:05,457 ♪ If you don't like it you can change the rules ♪ 2253 02:43:05,491 --> 02:43:07,560 ♪ Thank your friends in the Legislature ♪ 2254 02:43:07,592 --> 02:43:10,195 ♪ What else is there? ♪ 2255 02:43:10,229 --> 02:43:12,632 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2256 02:43:12,664 --> 02:43:15,100 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2257 02:43:15,134 --> 02:43:17,971 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2258 02:43:18,003 --> 02:43:20,106 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2259 02:43:20,138 --> 02:43:22,474 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2260 02:43:22,508 --> 02:43:25,044 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2261 02:43:25,077 --> 02:43:27,881 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2262 02:43:27,913 --> 02:43:29,982 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2263 02:43:57,475 --> 02:44:00,012 ♪ Never felt like we had enough ♪ 2264 02:44:00,045 --> 02:44:02,347 ♪ Welfare check don't buy much ♪ 2265 02:44:02,381 --> 02:44:04,583 ♪ I started working from eight on up ♪ 2266 02:44:04,616 --> 02:44:07,452 ♪ What else is there? ♪ 2267 02:44:07,485 --> 02:44:09,922 ♪ I know when I look at you ♪ 2268 02:44:09,956 --> 02:44:12,325 ♪ You got feelings like I do ♪ 2269 02:44:12,358 --> 02:44:14,460 ♪ Can we go by the golden rule? ♪ 2270 02:44:14,492 --> 02:44:17,062 ♪ What else is there? ♪ 2271 02:44:17,096 --> 02:44:19,431 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2272 02:44:19,465 --> 02:44:22,035 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2273 02:44:22,068 --> 02:44:24,670 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2274 02:44:24,704 --> 02:44:27,006 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2275 02:44:27,038 --> 02:44:29,374 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2276 02:44:29,408 --> 02:44:31,945 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2277 02:44:31,977 --> 02:44:34,580 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2278 02:44:34,613 --> 02:44:36,682 ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ 2279 02:44:36,715 --> 02:44:39,251 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2280 02:44:39,285 --> 02:44:41,620 - ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ - ♪ Help somebody ♪ 2281 02:44:41,653 --> 02:44:44,489 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2282 02:44:44,522 --> 02:44:46,559 - ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ - ♪ Help somebody ♪ 2283 02:44:46,591 --> 02:44:49,194 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2284 02:44:49,227 --> 02:44:51,563 - ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ - ♪ Help somebody ♪ 2285 02:44:51,597 --> 02:44:54,434 ♪ Did your mama teach you how to ♪ 2286 02:44:54,466 --> 02:44:57,703 - ♪ Teach you how to share? ♪ - ♪ Help somebody ♪ 2287 02:44:58,974 --> 02:45:03,974 Subtitles by explosiveskull www.OpenSubtitles.org 190770

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