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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:27,230 --> 00:00:28,160 (INDISTINCT CONVERSATION) 2 00:00:28,190 --> 00:00:30,870 REPORTER 1: Do you have any last minute comments before you go in, sir? 3 00:00:30,890 --> 00:00:33,870 REPORTER 2: What are you planning to do in court today? 4 00:00:33,890 --> 00:00:35,160 We're asking the court to 5 00:00:35,190 --> 00:00:38,120 order the Immigration and Naturalization Service 6 00:00:38,140 --> 00:00:40,540 to recognize the validity of the marriage 7 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,850 between Tony Sullivan and Richard Adams. 8 00:00:44,310 --> 00:00:46,410 Tony is an Australian citizen, 9 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:49,080 and he is seeking, uh, through Richard 10 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:52,950 to be permitted to stay in this country on a permanent basis 11 00:00:52,980 --> 00:00:55,660 as the spouse of an American citizen. 12 00:00:55,690 --> 00:00:57,370 REPORTER 3: Has there been a case like this before or 13 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,410 is this a precedent setting case? 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:01,120 Uh, there's never been a case involving whether or not 15 00:01:01,140 --> 00:01:03,950 gay men or women have the right to marry one another 16 00:01:03,980 --> 00:01:07,520 brought in the federal courts. This is the first one. 17 00:01:15,190 --> 00:01:18,200 I'm not going to be separated from Richard unless he decided 18 00:01:18,230 --> 00:01:21,200 he did not want to be with me. And it's the same, 19 00:01:21,230 --> 00:01:22,620 you know, both ways. 20 00:01:22,650 --> 00:01:27,750 We've gotten closer and closer as the years have passed by. 21 00:01:27,770 --> 00:01:28,870 It's an amazing, 22 00:01:28,890 --> 00:01:32,440 incredibly intimate feeling, and it's grown. 23 00:02:22,230 --> 00:02:23,890 (UTENSILS BANGING) 24 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,200 RICHARD: There I go. TONY: Take the chicken out of the box. 25 00:02:27,230 --> 00:02:29,870 RICHARD: Why not? TONY: I think it looks so good. 26 00:02:29,890 --> 00:02:31,890 Where is the champagne? 27 00:02:32,190 --> 00:02:35,870 I thought I brought it in, maybe it was in the fridge outside. 28 00:02:35,890 --> 00:02:38,600 Oh, probably, probably. 29 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,690 Okay. 30 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:44,770 (POP) 31 00:02:44,890 --> 00:02:46,020 All right. 32 00:02:46,350 --> 00:02:49,200 Well, mon cheri, bon anniversary... 33 00:02:49,230 --> 00:02:51,080 40 years! 40 years. Oh! 34 00:02:51,100 --> 00:02:53,690 Cuarenta,yes. 35 00:02:55,350 --> 00:02:58,100 Now come and kissy, poo. Mmm! Mmm! 36 00:02:59,890 --> 00:03:01,540 Yes, thank you. 37 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:02,870 Isn't it wonderful? Yeah. 38 00:03:02,890 --> 00:03:06,870 Well, Rich, life turned out different to what both of us expected. 39 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:07,870 Very different, 40 00:03:07,890 --> 00:03:11,370 and yet you know I had a dream about this whole thing 41 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,810 way back in the '70s. 42 00:03:13,940 --> 00:03:16,700 People told us that we had a pipe dream, 43 00:03:16,730 --> 00:03:19,160 but we got every country in the world almost discussing 44 00:03:19,190 --> 00:03:21,870 the gay immigration issue and the same-sex marriage issue. 45 00:03:21,890 --> 00:03:25,870 Two issues that were not being discussed when we started. 46 00:03:25,890 --> 00:03:27,250 We were dreamers... Hmm. 47 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:29,870 But we still believed that love will triumph. 48 00:03:29,890 --> 00:03:31,540 Yeah. And change the world. 49 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:32,870 (LAUGHS) Yeah. 50 00:03:32,890 --> 00:03:34,060 Mmm. 51 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:47,910 LAVI SOLOWAY: We're blessed today that we have with us 52 00:03:47,940 --> 00:03:48,580 Tony and Richard 53 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:51,290 who just celebrated their 40th anniversary together. 54 00:03:51,310 --> 00:03:55,120 Two people that I consider truly pioneers. 55 00:03:55,140 --> 00:03:56,700 They took on a fight 56 00:03:56,730 --> 00:04:00,450 when they met 40 years ago here in Los Angeles 57 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,830 that was not a fight that anybody could have imagined. 58 00:04:04,850 --> 00:04:06,870 They laid the foundation to have 59 00:04:06,890 --> 00:04:09,870 marriage recognized by the federal governments. 60 00:04:09,890 --> 00:04:12,440 So, thanks to Tony and Richard. 61 00:04:12,890 --> 00:04:14,980 (APPLAUSE) 62 00:04:21,770 --> 00:04:24,660 I'm in a bi-national same-sex relationship, 63 00:04:24,690 --> 00:04:26,290 and my partner last month 64 00:04:26,310 --> 00:04:29,870 was denied reentry into the United States. Oh, no. 65 00:04:29,890 --> 00:04:31,870 I went back to Italy to meet his family, 66 00:04:31,890 --> 00:04:34,950 and on our return back through Washington D.C, 67 00:04:34,980 --> 00:04:36,540 they found out we were a couple, 68 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,790 and for that reason, they would not renew his visa. 69 00:04:39,810 --> 00:04:41,870 It's devastating when you have what has happened to you. 70 00:04:41,890 --> 00:04:45,000 I mean, the whole bottom drops out of everything. 71 00:04:45,020 --> 00:04:45,620 It's like, "What?" 72 00:04:45,650 --> 00:04:50,080 There's 36,000 Americans that are facing this right now. 73 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:54,410 You know, I've waited all my life for this person. Yeah. 74 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:56,870 And when you find them and you realize 75 00:04:56,890 --> 00:04:57,870 you're a second-class citizen. 76 00:04:57,890 --> 00:05:00,230 There's no nice way of saying that. 77 00:05:00,890 --> 00:05:02,790 DAVID ROSS: Okay, one, two three. 78 00:05:02,810 --> 00:05:04,200 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS) 79 00:05:04,230 --> 00:05:06,040 So what we're doing is, we're gonna try and document 80 00:05:06,060 --> 00:05:09,660 as many bi-national same-sex couples as we can in America. 81 00:05:09,690 --> 00:05:11,040 And then the idea is to blur out 82 00:05:11,060 --> 00:05:13,830 the face of the person who's from the other country. 83 00:05:13,850 --> 00:05:14,870 'Cause a lot of times, 84 00:05:14,890 --> 00:05:16,540 they're very rarely in the relationship 85 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:18,870 psychologically, physically or otherwise. 86 00:05:18,890 --> 00:05:20,540 We're lucky we've lasted. 87 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,330 Yeah. But, I think it's 'cause we're each other's 88 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:24,870 best friends, that's why it lasts. 89 00:05:24,890 --> 00:05:27,910 You know, I'm still waiting to find my best friend. (ALL LAUGH) 90 00:05:27,940 --> 00:05:31,770 Do you want to have your picture taken? Okay, we'll have one. 91 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:34,060 Well, that's white. 92 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:38,140 Strange illusion, isn't it? Yeah. 93 00:05:39,890 --> 00:05:41,500 Oh, are you okay? Yeah. 94 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,190 That's right, that's right. 95 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:47,700 Ready? One, two three. 96 00:05:47,730 --> 00:05:49,230 (CAMERA SHUTTER CLICKS) 97 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:10,980 RICHARD: Tony and I met on Cinco de Mayo in 1971. 98 00:06:12,650 --> 00:06:15,060 I was 24, living in LA. 99 00:06:16,730 --> 00:06:18,200 TONY: And I was 29. 100 00:06:18,230 --> 00:06:20,950 I was on an around the world trip from Australia. 101 00:06:20,980 --> 00:06:23,410 I had a non-immigrant visa. 102 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,290 I had no intention of staying here, 103 00:06:25,310 --> 00:06:28,250 and had no intention of falling in love. 104 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:31,600 RICHARD: We met in a bar called The Closet. 105 00:06:31,850 --> 00:06:33,870 TONY: This bar had a big leather curtain 106 00:06:33,890 --> 00:06:34,790 that you came through, 107 00:06:34,810 --> 00:06:36,080 and he came through in the afternoon, 108 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:37,790 and the blazing light was behind him. 109 00:06:37,810 --> 00:06:39,450 And then you know, my heart gave a leap. 110 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:41,870 RICHARD: We got talking and before you know it 111 00:06:41,890 --> 00:06:43,370 we were setting a date the next day, 112 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,250 going to Greta Garbo's star on Hollywood Boulevard. 113 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:48,890 So...(LAUGHS) 114 00:06:48,980 --> 00:06:51,250 TONY: We found we had things in common. 115 00:06:51,270 --> 00:06:54,910 RICHARD: We were both very idealistic at that time. 116 00:06:54,940 --> 00:06:57,200 The feminist movement started, 117 00:06:57,230 --> 00:07:00,400 the gay movement was just starting. 118 00:07:00,940 --> 00:07:05,450 TONY: I felt that there was an artistic soul in Richard, 119 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,940 and on top of that, he was drop dead gorgeous. 120 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,230 TONY: So was he.(LAUGHS) 121 00:07:19,350 --> 00:07:23,200 CATHY ADAMS: My brother and Tony are opposites. 122 00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:27,230 It's like salt pepper, yin and yang, oil water. 123 00:07:27,890 --> 00:07:29,600 My brother's quiet 124 00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:31,480 and easy-going. 125 00:07:31,890 --> 00:07:33,120 Tony is boisterous. 126 00:07:33,140 --> 00:07:36,140 He reminded us of Robert Redford. 127 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,890 I always thought he was too smart. (CHUCKLES) 128 00:07:40,770 --> 00:07:44,080 When Richard brought Tony to our house, 129 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:45,810 I was 10. 130 00:07:46,890 --> 00:07:47,870 While we were growing up, 131 00:07:47,890 --> 00:07:51,370 they took us everywhere, did everything with us. 132 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:56,020 Right off the bat, we all as siblings accepted Tony. 133 00:07:57,020 --> 00:07:59,080 TONY: I never expected really to have a family 134 00:07:59,100 --> 00:08:01,080 in the context of being a gay person. 135 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:04,000 I did not have a happy life before knowing Richard, 136 00:08:04,020 --> 00:08:08,140 so this was the first place in the world I had been happy. 137 00:08:19,730 --> 00:08:22,850 TONY: I grew up privileged in the '40s, 138 00:08:25,730 --> 00:08:29,980 but it was a very, very abusive home situation. 139 00:08:34,650 --> 00:08:36,870 I mean, my mother even at one stage 140 00:08:36,890 --> 00:08:39,000 was even going to have me lobotomized 141 00:08:39,020 --> 00:08:40,770 because I was gay. 142 00:08:41,890 --> 00:08:44,850 And thank God, my father stopped her. 143 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:49,870 I was very difficult 144 00:08:49,890 --> 00:08:51,870 and Richard nurtured and cared for me 145 00:08:51,890 --> 00:08:55,870 in a way that no one else in my whole life 146 00:08:55,890 --> 00:08:57,230 had done for me. 147 00:09:00,690 --> 00:09:02,650 (SIRENS BLARING) 148 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:07,120 RICHARD: I was aware of his immigration status because 149 00:09:07,140 --> 00:09:09,870 Tony had a multiple-entry visa. 150 00:09:09,890 --> 00:09:10,870 (HELICOPTER WHIRRING) 151 00:09:10,890 --> 00:09:13,410 TONY: I would go to Mexico and cross the border 152 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,500 and take my passport and get it re-stamped 153 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,870 every three months. 154 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:19,450 When you keep getting stamps in your passport regularly, 155 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,870 you're obviously going in and out of the country 156 00:09:21,890 --> 00:09:24,000 in order to extend your stay. 157 00:09:24,020 --> 00:09:25,940 We were bending the rules. 158 00:09:26,140 --> 00:09:28,410 Crossing the border, there was always the chance 159 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,870 that the immigration official would say, 160 00:09:29,890 --> 00:09:33,890 "We know what you're doing", and separating us then. 161 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:41,870 LAVI: When Tony and Richard met in the early 1970s 162 00:09:41,890 --> 00:09:44,330 as citizens of two different countries, 163 00:09:44,350 --> 00:09:45,870 there was no country in the world 164 00:09:45,890 --> 00:09:49,830 that provided for immigration for same-sex couples. 165 00:09:49,850 --> 00:09:52,870 There was no country in the world that was discussing 166 00:09:52,890 --> 00:09:54,660 immigration rights for same-sex couples. 167 00:09:54,690 --> 00:09:57,690 And they had no country to go to. 168 00:10:04,890 --> 00:10:08,500 The United States had a long list of undesirable people, 169 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:13,270 and gay and lesbian people were considered sexual deviants. 170 00:10:15,270 --> 00:10:16,500 (WHEELS SCREECHING) 171 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:17,870 LAVI: Quite literally, a gay or lesbian person 172 00:10:17,890 --> 00:10:20,000 could arrive at an airport in the United States 173 00:10:20,020 --> 00:10:21,870 and their sexual orientation might be something 174 00:10:21,890 --> 00:10:25,120 that could become known to a customs or immigration official. 175 00:10:25,140 --> 00:10:26,950 That person would have the power to turn them around 176 00:10:26,980 --> 00:10:29,940 and send them on a plane back to where they came from. 177 00:10:32,310 --> 00:10:35,650 RICHARD: We had this gray cloud over us. 178 00:10:37,270 --> 00:10:40,870 It was very difficult because Tony didn't want to get closer 179 00:10:40,890 --> 00:10:44,190 in case a separation would occur. 180 00:10:44,730 --> 00:10:49,890 So we had to start thinking of a way to stay together, uh... 181 00:10:50,230 --> 00:10:50,870 He wasn't a student. 182 00:10:50,890 --> 00:10:54,890 And there's no way that two men can stay together. 183 00:10:56,850 --> 00:10:59,620 Any heterosexual couple in the exact same situation 184 00:10:59,650 --> 00:11:01,330 would simply fill out a form, 185 00:11:01,350 --> 00:11:03,200 attach to it their marriage certificate, 186 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:06,000 and eventually they would go through an interview 187 00:11:06,020 --> 00:11:07,690 and get a green card. 188 00:11:11,890 --> 00:11:14,870 TONY: We realized that the only thing that was stopping us 189 00:11:14,890 --> 00:11:16,870 from being able to remain together was the fact that 190 00:11:16,890 --> 00:11:19,940 we were two men and couldn't get married. 191 00:11:23,890 --> 00:11:26,160 And then out of the blue, out of nowhere 192 00:11:26,190 --> 00:11:28,520 we saw the most incredible news. 193 00:11:39,270 --> 00:11:43,000 CLELA ROREX: In 1975, a gay couple came to me 194 00:11:43,020 --> 00:11:46,580 and they asked for a marriage license. 195 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,270 At the time, I didn't even know any gay couples. 196 00:11:50,890 --> 00:11:52,750 I was being faced 197 00:11:52,770 --> 00:11:54,450 with a very 198 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,870 profound type of moral issue 199 00:11:56,890 --> 00:12:01,870 of would I discriminate against two people of the same sex 200 00:12:01,890 --> 00:12:02,950 when I had been so 201 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:05,870 involved for the last few years of my life 202 00:12:05,890 --> 00:12:09,560 of fighting discrimination against women? 203 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:14,330 I thought I would have to get a legal opinion on it 204 00:12:14,350 --> 00:12:15,870 from our District Attorney 205 00:12:15,890 --> 00:12:18,160 and they determined that there was nothing in 206 00:12:18,190 --> 00:12:21,870 the Colorado Marriage Code that would prohibit me 207 00:12:21,890 --> 00:12:23,540 from issuing a marriage license 208 00:12:23,560 --> 00:12:27,890 to two people of the same sex if I wanted to do so. 209 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:29,790 And at that point, I gave 210 00:12:29,810 --> 00:12:32,980 the first same-sex marriage license. 211 00:12:36,890 --> 00:12:39,000 JOHNNY CARSON: Now, you'll think I'm making this up. 212 00:12:39,020 --> 00:12:41,450 But in Boulder, Colorado today 213 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:42,870 a man was really steamed 214 00:12:42,890 --> 00:12:45,500 because they have had some marriages back there 215 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:47,410 of people of the same sex. 216 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,870 And they performed you know, uh, gay marriages. 217 00:12:49,890 --> 00:12:53,540 And he was so angry they did that, he went in and applied 218 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:56,870 for a license to marry his horse. 219 00:12:56,890 --> 00:12:57,660 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 220 00:12:57,690 --> 00:13:00,910 Now, you can make up your own jokes, or... 221 00:13:00,940 --> 00:13:01,540 (LOUD LAUGHTER) 222 00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:04,870 CLELA: He came to the Office of County Clerk and Recorder, 223 00:13:04,890 --> 00:13:07,870 and he had a line all prepared. 224 00:13:07,890 --> 00:13:11,290 "If a man can marry man, and a woman can marry woman, 225 00:13:11,310 --> 00:13:16,870 "why can't a tired old cowboy like me marry his best friend Dolly?" 226 00:13:16,890 --> 00:13:18,910 And I asked the age of Dolly. 227 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:21,410 And he said, "Eight years old." 228 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,870 And at that point, I just simply laid down my pen 229 00:13:24,890 --> 00:13:26,450 and said, "I'm sorry. 230 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,100 "Dolly is under age." 231 00:13:33,940 --> 00:13:35,450 TONY: Richard and I figured, well, 232 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,330 they've allowed it to go on for a month, 233 00:13:37,350 --> 00:13:39,330 Johnny Carson has talked about it so we know 234 00:13:39,350 --> 00:13:41,540 the government can't claim ignorance. 235 00:13:41,560 --> 00:13:43,450 Therefore this must be valid. 236 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,890 And so, we then flew to Boulder to get married. 237 00:13:53,020 --> 00:13:55,910 RICHARD: I remember our wedding day 238 00:13:55,940 --> 00:13:57,700 in Colorado very well. 239 00:13:57,730 --> 00:13:59,250 Took our friends, our ministers, 240 00:13:59,270 --> 00:14:03,020 flew to Boulder, and it was very exciting. 241 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:10,600 The press picked up on it and 242 00:14:10,940 --> 00:14:14,310 it was really quite chaotic. 243 00:14:15,060 --> 00:14:16,870 TONY: We were very sort of conscious 244 00:14:16,890 --> 00:14:19,870 that if we weren't careful, it'd be a three ring circus, 245 00:14:19,890 --> 00:14:21,480 which we didn't want. 246 00:14:23,730 --> 00:14:26,500 We got the license in the morning, 247 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,830 and immediately got married. 248 00:14:27,850 --> 00:14:30,410 Took the license straight back into the office, 249 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,230 and it was registered. 250 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,200 To this day, it is on the official records 251 00:14:35,230 --> 00:14:37,560 of the state of Colorado. 252 00:14:39,020 --> 00:14:42,580 Because I had been told by the Immigration Department 253 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,330 that a marriage had to be consummated 254 00:14:45,350 --> 00:14:47,870 before it was legal in the United States, 255 00:14:47,890 --> 00:14:48,870 we then immediately went back 256 00:14:48,890 --> 00:14:50,700 to the house where we were staying. 257 00:14:50,730 --> 00:14:53,250 And in a guest room, on a big round bed, 258 00:14:53,270 --> 00:14:55,600 we consummated the marriage. 259 00:14:56,940 --> 00:14:57,620 I said to Richard, 260 00:14:57,650 --> 00:15:00,870 "Ah, that's the shot that was heard around the world." 261 00:15:00,890 --> 00:15:02,890 (LAUGHING) 262 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,950 When we held the press conference, 263 00:15:06,980 --> 00:15:08,910 we then announced that the marriage now 264 00:15:08,940 --> 00:15:12,100 was fully legal because it had been consummated. 265 00:15:12,890 --> 00:15:15,830 The love I had for him at that, that moment, I... 266 00:15:15,850 --> 00:15:19,770 I hope everyone has a chance to feel that in life. 267 00:15:40,350 --> 00:15:43,290 I was very naive about the degree 268 00:15:43,310 --> 00:15:47,100 of animosity that emerged. 269 00:15:49,890 --> 00:15:53,750 People from all over the country wrote letters about 270 00:15:53,770 --> 00:15:58,250 how could I make a decision supporting two fags? 271 00:15:58,270 --> 00:16:01,200 And the pressure was unrelenting. 272 00:16:01,230 --> 00:16:05,290 Even my good democratic friends were quite furious 273 00:16:05,310 --> 00:16:08,270 that I'd brought up such an issue. 274 00:16:10,060 --> 00:16:12,890 J.D. MACFARLANE: The Colorado Marriage Statute 275 00:16:12,980 --> 00:16:14,890 does not recognize 276 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:16,750 a marriage between 277 00:16:16,770 --> 00:16:18,160 a man and a man, or a woman and a woman. 278 00:16:18,190 --> 00:16:22,520 It only recognizes a marriage between a man and a woman. 279 00:16:24,890 --> 00:16:27,950 CLELA: The six marriage licenses that I had issued 280 00:16:27,980 --> 00:16:31,290 really went into a state of limbo 281 00:16:31,310 --> 00:16:33,870 after the Attorney General made his opinion. 282 00:16:33,890 --> 00:16:37,450 There was never an order issued that they were invalid, 283 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,290 and I believe that the marriage licenses 284 00:16:40,310 --> 00:16:43,980 should be viewed as valid under the law. 285 00:16:50,890 --> 00:16:53,750 TONY: After we got married in Boulder, Colorado, 286 00:16:53,770 --> 00:16:56,200 we flew back to Los Angeles. 287 00:16:56,230 --> 00:16:58,330 Richard worked for Avis Rent-A-Car, 288 00:16:58,350 --> 00:17:00,540 a company he had worked with for years. 289 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,690 But I wasn't allowed to work without a proper visa. 290 00:17:05,770 --> 00:17:08,080 I did work for a short time 291 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:09,580 at a gay bathhouse. 292 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,730 Got paid under the table. 293 00:17:12,270 --> 00:17:14,870 I also would make ceramics, 294 00:17:14,890 --> 00:17:16,450 and go around the art fairs 295 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,480 and that contributed to our income. 296 00:17:19,770 --> 00:17:23,770 But Richard basically carried us at that point in time. 297 00:17:24,650 --> 00:17:28,830 RICHARD: My life changed overnight when we got married. 298 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:30,230 All of a sudden, 299 00:17:30,890 --> 00:17:32,870 everyone looked at me differently. 300 00:17:32,890 --> 00:17:37,480 Especially because of the publicity it had gotten. 301 00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:43,870 My job where I worked over 10 years, 302 00:17:43,890 --> 00:17:46,870 they harassed me and I was terminated. 303 00:17:46,890 --> 00:17:49,690 I had to fight for my job back. 304 00:17:50,940 --> 00:17:53,200 My mother said, "I don't believe in 305 00:17:53,230 --> 00:17:55,890 "what you're doing, but I still love you." 306 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,200 I came here from the Philippines 307 00:17:59,230 --> 00:18:00,950 when I was 12 years old. 308 00:18:00,980 --> 00:18:04,950 I became a US citizen when I turned 21, 309 00:18:04,980 --> 00:18:08,330 and some of my Filipino aunts and uncles 310 00:18:08,350 --> 00:18:12,310 had a very difficult time with our relationship. 311 00:18:13,890 --> 00:18:15,000 After we got married, 312 00:18:15,020 --> 00:18:17,000 my mother wrote me a missive 313 00:18:17,020 --> 00:18:18,580 which began with the words, 314 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,890 "I can endure no more." 315 00:18:23,020 --> 00:18:25,890 She said, "Perversion is bad enough, 316 00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:28,890 "but public display never." 317 00:18:31,690 --> 00:18:34,040 And then she signed the letter, 318 00:18:34,060 --> 00:18:35,580 "It is finished." 319 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,310 And she never did write to me again, and I was disinherited. 320 00:18:41,020 --> 00:18:42,350 (SOBS) 321 00:18:48,310 --> 00:18:49,000 RICHARD: When we got married, 322 00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:52,120 the very first thing I did do was to apply for Tony 323 00:18:52,140 --> 00:18:55,870 to have a green card as a spouse of an American citizen. 324 00:18:55,890 --> 00:18:58,560 That way we could stay together. 325 00:19:08,690 --> 00:19:10,200 TONY: When I opened the letter, 326 00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:11,790 I handed it to the postman, 327 00:19:11,810 --> 00:19:14,790 and I said, "Excuse me, have I read that correctly?" 328 00:19:14,810 --> 00:19:17,500 And he looked at it, and sort of reacted, 329 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,330 and obviously was quite shocked. 330 00:19:19,350 --> 00:19:23,810 And then I just handed it over to Richard, and said, "It's your government." 331 00:19:28,890 --> 00:19:30,350 That was appalling. 332 00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:39,870 The decision was turned down because, 333 00:19:39,890 --> 00:19:41,750 "You have failed to establish 334 00:19:41,770 --> 00:19:44,040 "that a bona fide marital relationship 335 00:19:44,060 --> 00:19:46,890 "can exist between two faggots." 336 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:58,460 It was inconceivable to me. 337 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,700 I had never thought of anyone in government ever using 338 00:20:00,730 --> 00:20:02,950 the word fag or a poof or a queer 339 00:20:02,980 --> 00:20:03,660 or any of those words. 340 00:20:03,690 --> 00:20:07,650 I, I just thought, uh, government had more dignity than that. 341 00:20:07,770 --> 00:20:11,870 LAVI: The Immigration Service recognized that that was inappropriate language 342 00:20:11,890 --> 00:20:13,660 and also an inappropriate basis for denial. 343 00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:18,810 And they followed up quickly with a just as offensive denial letter. 344 00:20:23,940 --> 00:20:25,870 TONY: In denying Richard's petition, 345 00:20:25,890 --> 00:20:28,370 they were in effect denying me a green card. 346 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,890 That would result in me having to leave the country. 347 00:20:32,060 --> 00:20:34,770 PROTESTORS: (CHANTING) Justice! Justice! 348 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,230 Gay power! 349 00:20:45,350 --> 00:20:47,200 TONY: The Sunday after the faggot letter, 350 00:20:47,230 --> 00:20:49,660 Reverend Troy Perry of the MCC Church 351 00:20:49,690 --> 00:20:53,080 had a 500 person demonstration downtown 352 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:56,020 at the federal building on our behalf. 353 00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:00,200 When we got the faggot letter, 354 00:21:00,230 --> 00:21:02,870 I knew decent people would be shocked 355 00:21:02,890 --> 00:21:04,410 by their government using the word "faggot." 356 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,890 And maybe we would get some kind of hearing as a result. 357 00:21:11,890 --> 00:21:14,270 We went to the ACLU, 358 00:21:14,810 --> 00:21:16,660 some of our so-called movers and shakers 359 00:21:16,690 --> 00:21:19,000 told me that they weren't interested in the case because 360 00:21:19,020 --> 00:21:20,790 we were a losing battle at that point. 361 00:21:20,810 --> 00:21:23,040 But the faggot letter had got so much publicity 362 00:21:23,060 --> 00:21:25,040 that they sort of off-handedly referred us 363 00:21:25,060 --> 00:21:27,080 to an attorney called David Brown. 364 00:21:27,100 --> 00:21:31,160 What we're trying to do is to educate the courts, 365 00:21:31,190 --> 00:21:32,620 and the public, 366 00:21:32,650 --> 00:21:35,250 about something that has existed 367 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:37,660 for thousands of years, and that is 368 00:21:37,690 --> 00:21:41,870 a meaningful relationship between two gay persons. 369 00:21:41,890 --> 00:21:43,870 There's nothing new about it. 370 00:21:43,890 --> 00:21:45,000 The only thing new 371 00:21:45,020 --> 00:21:47,160 is that gay people now are saying, 372 00:21:47,190 --> 00:21:52,890 uh, we're tired of being discriminated against legally. 373 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,080 CATHY: When my brother and Tony started this, 374 00:21:58,100 --> 00:21:59,660 it was unheard of. 375 00:21:59,690 --> 00:22:00,910 It took a lot of courage 376 00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:04,500 because back then, nobody had any tolerance. 377 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,890 There was discrimination on every level. 378 00:22:09,690 --> 00:22:12,790 The Supreme Court today ruled that the individual states 379 00:22:12,810 --> 00:22:14,540 are not violating constitutional rights 380 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,500 when they pass laws against private homosexual relations 381 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,140 between consenting adults. 382 00:22:26,270 --> 00:22:30,910 REPORTER 1: The opposition to the gays is being led by the singer Anita Bryant, 383 00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:33,200 to those who call her a religious bigot 384 00:22:33,230 --> 00:22:35,080 she tells of her Christian Love. 385 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:38,160 I love homosexuals, if you can believe that. 386 00:22:38,190 --> 00:22:41,000 But I know that the homosexual can turn from, 387 00:22:41,020 --> 00:22:43,290 uh, sin the same as any individual 388 00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:44,870 that, uh, that they can be ex-homosexuals 389 00:22:44,890 --> 00:22:49,690 the same as there can be an ex-murderer, an ex-thief or an ex-anybody. 390 00:22:54,890 --> 00:22:57,500 REPORTER 1: Voters in California will be deciding 391 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:57,910 Proposition 6. 392 00:22:57,940 --> 00:23:01,160 It would call for firing any teachers in California 393 00:23:01,190 --> 00:23:03,450 who practice or advocate homosexuality. 394 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,620 Do you want a sexually disoriented person teaching your child? 395 00:23:06,650 --> 00:23:08,870 HARVEY MILK: The child molester is heterosexual, 396 00:23:08,890 --> 00:23:10,330 the rapist is heterosexual, 397 00:23:10,350 --> 00:23:11,660 most murderers are heterosexual, 398 00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:14,890 do you want those people to teach our children? 399 00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:21,370 REPORTER 2: The bodies of Moscone, who had been mayor for three years, 400 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,870 and Milk, the city's first avowed homosexual 401 00:23:23,890 --> 00:23:26,870 to secure higher office, were brought out a rear door. 402 00:23:26,890 --> 00:23:29,500 REPORTER: So now the leader of San Francisco's establishment, 403 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:33,660 and one of the leaders of San Francisco's anti-establishment 404 00:23:33,690 --> 00:23:34,940 are both dead. 405 00:23:39,890 --> 00:23:41,870 I am legally married to Richard 406 00:23:41,890 --> 00:23:43,870 by the laws of this country, 407 00:23:43,890 --> 00:23:45,000 and that's why we're here today 408 00:23:45,020 --> 00:23:48,870 asking the compassion and understanding and equal rights 409 00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:50,890 of heterosexuals in our case. 410 00:23:52,020 --> 00:23:53,690 (SINGING) 411 00:23:55,810 --> 00:23:57,080 LAVI: Tony and Richard went 412 00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,700 to the federal court and argued that 413 00:23:59,730 --> 00:24:01,000 their marriage should be valid 414 00:24:01,020 --> 00:24:02,700 for federal immigration law purposes. 415 00:24:02,730 --> 00:24:06,370 And that to discriminate against them because they were a marriage of two men 416 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,700 is unconstitutional discrimination. 417 00:24:08,730 --> 00:24:12,450 TONY: Under the name of Richard in a case called Adams v. Howerton, 418 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,770 we filed suit against the United States. 419 00:24:18,020 --> 00:24:20,870 Today, uh, we're asking Judge Hill 420 00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:22,620 to order the Immigration Service 421 00:24:22,650 --> 00:24:25,870 to recognize that these two men are in fact married. 422 00:24:25,890 --> 00:24:29,620 They love one another, and they have the right to live with one another 423 00:24:29,650 --> 00:24:30,120 in the United States. 424 00:24:30,150 --> 00:24:34,440 REPORTER: What will happen if Judge Hill turns down your request? 425 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,000 Uh, we will appeal to the 426 00:24:36,020 --> 00:24:38,660 Federal Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit, 427 00:24:38,690 --> 00:24:41,890 and we'll take this case as far as we have to. 428 00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:47,540 TONY: A US district judge ruled against us. 429 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,870 He said he didn't have to recognize our marriage 430 00:24:49,890 --> 00:24:51,870 because marriage was intended to be between 431 00:24:51,890 --> 00:24:55,890 a man and a woman for the propagation of the species. 432 00:24:58,890 --> 00:25:02,450 That case went through to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. 433 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,120 We lost in the court and so as a result, 434 00:25:05,140 --> 00:25:06,580 we then filed an action 435 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,870 with the Supreme Court of the United States 436 00:25:08,890 --> 00:25:11,310 who declined to hear the case. 437 00:25:12,650 --> 00:25:16,750 REPORTER: You say now, because you've been gone so long from Australia 438 00:25:16,770 --> 00:25:19,290 that it would be a hardship for you to go back there. 439 00:25:19,310 --> 00:25:22,870 Richard doesn't qualify for immigration into Australia, 440 00:25:22,890 --> 00:25:23,870 and so sending me to Australia 441 00:25:23,890 --> 00:25:25,890 would be separating me from Richard. 442 00:25:26,020 --> 00:25:27,750 LAVI: At the same time Richard and Tony, 443 00:25:27,770 --> 00:25:30,870 proceeded with a second strand of their legal strategy, 444 00:25:30,890 --> 00:25:35,160 which was to challenge the deportation of Tony. 445 00:25:35,190 --> 00:25:35,870 And to request 446 00:25:35,890 --> 00:25:38,160 the Immigration Court that his deportation be suspended, 447 00:25:38,190 --> 00:25:43,690 because it would cause extreme hardship to Tony to be deported to Australia. 448 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,950 TONY: We had a hearing before Judge Griffin 449 00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:50,850 of the Immigration and Naturalization Service. 450 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:52,290 And this judge said that 451 00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:56,230 it would cause no emotional hardship to separate us. 452 00:25:59,890 --> 00:26:01,160 REPORTER: How do you feel about the decision? 453 00:26:01,190 --> 00:26:05,370 If, uh, Tony and Richard were a heterosexual couple, 454 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,870 Tony would be permitted to remain in the United States. 455 00:26:07,890 --> 00:26:09,870 REPORTER: Are you planning on appealing this issue? 456 00:26:09,890 --> 00:26:13,500 TONY: We then took the case to the Federal Court of Appeals. 457 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,890 The quality of argument by our opposition was not good. 458 00:26:18,020 --> 00:26:21,000 First of all, the woman got the countries mixed up, 459 00:26:21,020 --> 00:26:21,870 our names mixed up, 460 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:23,790 and finally in desperation she said, 461 00:26:23,810 --> 00:26:24,910 "Oh, he can go back to Australia 462 00:26:24,940 --> 00:26:27,890 "and have another one of those relationships." 463 00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:30,620 LAVI: And so, finally their case 464 00:26:30,650 --> 00:26:34,370 found its way to the desk of Judge Anthony Kennedy, 465 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:34,870 who at the time was 466 00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:38,870 an associate judge of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. 467 00:26:38,890 --> 00:26:42,700 The three-judge panel ruled against Tony and Richard 468 00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:44,410 in a two-to-one decision 469 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,060 written by Judge Anthony Kennedy. 470 00:26:47,890 --> 00:26:53,310 Justice Kennedy has gone on to become a member of the United States Supreme Court. 471 00:26:54,890 --> 00:26:55,370 In his decision, 472 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,200 he found that the Board of Immigration Appeals 473 00:26:57,230 --> 00:27:00,870 had not abused its discretion in ruling against them 474 00:27:00,890 --> 00:27:03,440 and let that ruling stand. 475 00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:07,870 Judge Kennedy's decision 476 00:27:07,890 --> 00:27:11,830 effectively ended Tony and Richard's legal strategy, 477 00:27:11,850 --> 00:27:15,890 and it left them with 60 days to leave the United States. 478 00:27:25,060 --> 00:27:27,700 We still, in the back of our minds 479 00:27:27,730 --> 00:27:29,500 was hoping that something will happen. 480 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,870 We felt we had been through the courts, 481 00:27:30,890 --> 00:27:34,890 the last place left was the court of public opinion. 482 00:27:37,230 --> 00:27:38,950 I think if two guys want to get married 483 00:27:38,980 --> 00:27:42,850 that's their business and why don't we let them get married? 484 00:27:43,020 --> 00:27:44,200 (APPLAUSE) 485 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:47,870 Letting guys get married is the beginning of the end, 486 00:27:47,890 --> 00:27:48,870 it's Sodom and Gomorrah, 487 00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:50,540 I don't think it's a moral thing to do. 488 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,870 And I think it should be prohibited by law. 489 00:27:52,890 --> 00:27:54,580 (APPLAUSE) 490 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Anthony Sullivan and Richard Adams join us. 491 00:27:57,020 --> 00:27:58,660 Is there a caller? Hi, I'm glad you waited. 492 00:27:58,690 --> 00:28:02,790 WOMAN ON PHONE: I believe homosexuality is wrong to start with. 493 00:28:02,810 --> 00:28:06,370 Marriage between them is absolutely ludicrous. 494 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:06,870 (APPLAUSE) 495 00:28:06,890 --> 00:28:08,160 AUDIENCE MEMBER: They want to get married now. 496 00:28:08,190 --> 00:28:11,040 Tomorrow they'll want to get joint insurance policies. 497 00:28:11,060 --> 00:28:14,540 The next day they'll want to file their taxes together. 498 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,350 Before you know it, they're gonna want to vote. 499 00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:21,870 So he can go on welfare and we're gonna pay for his spouse. I'm not. 500 00:28:21,890 --> 00:28:26,750 TONY: We subsidize all these benefits that people are getting through marriage. 501 00:28:26,770 --> 00:28:27,330 Gay people are taxed. 502 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:30,080 We pay our taxes along with everyone else 503 00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:31,870 and we don't get benefits. 504 00:28:31,890 --> 00:28:32,410 (APPLAUSE) 505 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,370 You are an illegal alien, and I think we should give you a lottery ticket 506 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,890 and send you back where you came from. 507 00:28:37,940 --> 00:28:39,730 (CHEERING) 508 00:28:40,690 --> 00:28:43,750 I started to get disillusioned because I didn't realize 509 00:28:43,770 --> 00:28:46,830 that there was so much hatred there. 510 00:28:46,850 --> 00:28:47,750 It was very painful, 511 00:28:47,770 --> 00:28:52,940 and, uh, it was a very uncomfortable period of my life. 512 00:28:57,690 --> 00:28:58,870 This Saturday, Anthony Sullivan 513 00:28:58,890 --> 00:29:01,790 is scheduled to be deported to his native Australia. 514 00:29:01,810 --> 00:29:05,120 It will end his 10-year battle to stay in this country. 515 00:29:05,140 --> 00:29:07,200 Joining us this morning is Mr. Harold Ezell 516 00:29:07,230 --> 00:29:10,330 of the Immigration Naturalization Service. Good morning. 517 00:29:10,350 --> 00:29:13,160 Does the INS recognize this marriage certificate 518 00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:17,890 from the State of Colorado I'm holding as, as legal? 519 00:29:18,060 --> 00:29:18,540 No, we do not. 520 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,830 There is no provision for a marriage between two people of the same-sex. 521 00:29:22,850 --> 00:29:25,830 Who would have to change that if it were to be changed? 522 00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:29,870 That has to be changed by the United States Congress. 523 00:29:29,890 --> 00:29:30,830 TONY: How would he feel 524 00:29:30,850 --> 00:29:33,870 if someone came along to him and his wife and said, 525 00:29:33,890 --> 00:29:36,870 "We're sorry, we're going to separate you and send you out 526 00:29:36,890 --> 00:29:38,540 "into the world where you have no country." 527 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,160 My sympathy stands with people who have come to this country legally. 528 00:29:43,190 --> 00:29:44,870 And I'd like to ask, do you intend 529 00:29:44,890 --> 00:29:48,870 to leave our country, go wherever you want on the 23rd of November? 530 00:29:48,890 --> 00:29:50,000 REPORTER: You will leave with Anthony? Oh... 531 00:29:50,020 --> 00:29:52,080 We're both leaving. We're not going to be separated. 532 00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:53,450 TONY: And we have nowhere to go. 533 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:54,870 And even that... REPORTER: Why not Australia? 534 00:29:54,890 --> 00:29:57,250 Australia turned down Richard's application. 535 00:29:57,270 --> 00:30:00,620 I mean, he's giving up a job of 17 and a half years. 536 00:30:00,650 --> 00:30:02,660 We have a relationship of 14 years. 537 00:30:02,690 --> 00:30:04,080 We're giving up a home of 10 years. 538 00:30:04,100 --> 00:30:06,870 REPORTER: Mr. Ezell, no more appeals right? 539 00:30:06,890 --> 00:30:07,290 That's right. 540 00:30:07,310 --> 00:30:11,100 REPORTER: It's over, this is Today on NBC. 541 00:30:18,230 --> 00:30:21,890 RICHARD: We had to get rid of all our things. 542 00:30:22,690 --> 00:30:24,810 It was so hectic. 543 00:30:25,690 --> 00:30:29,560 TONY: I can deal with giving up our possessions, 544 00:30:29,770 --> 00:30:32,500 but I can't deal with the separation from, 545 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:33,890 from my friends. 546 00:30:36,810 --> 00:30:39,540 We keep hoping it's not gonna come, 547 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,870 probably won't hit us until we do leave the airport. 548 00:30:42,890 --> 00:30:45,600 But we keep praying for them. 549 00:30:49,310 --> 00:30:50,080 (INDISTINCT CHATTERING) 550 00:30:50,100 --> 00:30:53,190 TONY: It was a media circus at the airport. 551 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,910 There were people in suits from the government 552 00:30:56,940 --> 00:30:58,940 watching what was going on. 553 00:30:59,890 --> 00:31:02,560 RICHARD: It was the most difficult period. 554 00:31:05,890 --> 00:31:08,810 I had to leave my family. 555 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,310 It was almost like death. 556 00:31:19,890 --> 00:31:21,890 (JET ENGINES ROAR) 557 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:36,140 We landed in Heathrow where we were just totally exhausted. 558 00:31:38,060 --> 00:31:41,870 TONY: We floated around the continent for many months, 559 00:31:41,890 --> 00:31:43,870 fortunately our closest friend 560 00:31:43,890 --> 00:31:46,080 uh, bought us a Eurail pass and we used that 561 00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:47,950 going from country to country around Europe 562 00:31:47,980 --> 00:31:52,350 in the coldest winter of the century at that time. 563 00:31:53,890 --> 00:31:56,080 RICHARD: We had very little money. 564 00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:58,250 We had close friends who helped 565 00:31:58,270 --> 00:32:00,730 buy some clothes and boots. 566 00:32:01,890 --> 00:32:04,870 I felt such a severe separation from 567 00:32:04,890 --> 00:32:08,520 my family that I had been with all my life. 568 00:32:09,850 --> 00:32:11,870 TONY: And I remember we just said, 569 00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:14,410 "We belong home, in Los Angeles." 570 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,370 We needed to be back with our friends and our family, 571 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,890 people who made our life meaningful. 572 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:27,400 The problem was my reentry into the United States. 573 00:32:29,060 --> 00:32:31,100 (INDISTINCT CHATTER) 574 00:32:34,850 --> 00:32:35,460 TONY: We got to Mexico 575 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,600 where my friend Jeremy was there to meet us. 576 00:32:38,730 --> 00:32:42,520 He had no idea he was bringing me home at that point in time. 577 00:32:49,890 --> 00:32:51,200 The big problem was crossing the border, 578 00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:54,890 and I'll be quite honest I, I was shit scared about it. 579 00:32:57,140 --> 00:32:58,980 (SIRENS BLARING) 580 00:32:59,140 --> 00:33:00,040 And then we got to the border, 581 00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:02,660 and I had two days growth on, and I put on a, 582 00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:05,890 a cap like someone from Bakersfield would wear. 583 00:33:06,890 --> 00:33:12,290 I was hoping to exploit the racism of the immigration border people. 584 00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:14,940 They were looking for non-white people. 585 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,500 And the American border person 586 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,080 put his head in the window and said, 587 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:21,500 "Are you Americans?" 588 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,200 And Jeremy showed... 589 00:33:23,230 --> 00:33:24,870 He started to show his driver's license, 590 00:33:24,890 --> 00:33:25,870 before he goes any further the guy just... 591 00:33:25,890 --> 00:33:28,870 Just looked at me and said, "Of course you are. Of course you are. 592 00:33:28,890 --> 00:33:29,250 "Go across." 593 00:33:29,270 --> 00:33:31,120 And Jeremy started to get all excited, and I said, 594 00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:35,410 "No, no, no. You've got to stay absolutely calm till we get round the corner." 595 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,870 He later told me before he died, 596 00:33:37,890 --> 00:33:38,250 he died of AIDS, 597 00:33:38,270 --> 00:33:41,980 that it was the moment he was the proudest of in his life. 598 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:44,870 And of course, 599 00:33:44,890 --> 00:33:48,270 I am totally, completely and utterly illegal now. 600 00:34:00,850 --> 00:34:05,730 RICHARD: Oh, we have been very much underground. 601 00:34:05,980 --> 00:34:06,870 In a way, we needed that 602 00:34:06,890 --> 00:34:08,450 because we needed a lot of healing 603 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,200 and we didn't want any publicity 604 00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:13,190 and we wanted to just be quiet for a while. 605 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,870 TONY: Being undocumented 606 00:34:17,890 --> 00:34:19,870 meant that I was not allowed to work, 607 00:34:19,890 --> 00:34:23,600 so any employment was under the table. 608 00:34:24,890 --> 00:34:27,410 Even though I took over as manager 609 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,370 of an apartment building, 610 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,060 economically, the deprivation was horrendous. 611 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,870 RICHARD: I had this job 612 00:34:34,890 --> 00:34:38,040 working for lawyers at a law firm, 613 00:34:38,060 --> 00:34:42,600 which was very helpful to get a little bit of money. 614 00:34:44,020 --> 00:34:47,000 LAVI: Tony and Richard had no options except for hiding out, 615 00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:50,250 trying to make a life on the margins of society 616 00:34:50,270 --> 00:34:52,870 with no proper identity documents. 617 00:34:52,890 --> 00:34:56,020 And so they couldn't leave the United States. 618 00:34:57,890 --> 00:34:58,660 TONY: At the same time 619 00:34:58,690 --> 00:35:01,660 that we were in seclusion from the Immigration Department, 620 00:35:01,690 --> 00:35:06,890 my mother died and I had not had a reconciliation with her. 621 00:35:09,890 --> 00:35:10,500 And my brother, 622 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:14,000 the only blood family I had left, dropped dead. 623 00:35:14,020 --> 00:35:16,890 And I couldn't go to either funeral. 624 00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:18,540 I couldn't risk going to Australia 625 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,870 and not being able to get back, 626 00:35:19,890 --> 00:35:21,750 and had I been left separate from Richard, 627 00:35:21,770 --> 00:35:23,400 I would have been desperate. 628 00:35:23,890 --> 00:35:27,890 And on top of that, we came back to our friends dying of AIDS, 629 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,250 the people I loved the most, 630 00:35:30,270 --> 00:35:32,980 including our attorney David Brown. 631 00:35:33,810 --> 00:35:36,330 We sat by their deathbeds and went through it with them, 632 00:35:36,350 --> 00:35:41,520 as have so many members of our community gone through such an experience. 633 00:35:45,060 --> 00:35:49,290 The late '80s, early '90s was a horrible period for all of us. 634 00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:51,890 A horrible period for the lot of us. 635 00:35:59,270 --> 00:36:01,950 CONGRESSMAN: This bill represents 636 00:36:01,980 --> 00:36:04,080 the first truly comprehensive 637 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:08,890 reform of US immigration law that has ever occurred. 638 00:36:16,890 --> 00:36:20,500 REPORTER: Hawaii is considering legalizing gay marriages. 639 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:21,790 Openly gay congressman Barney Frank 640 00:36:21,810 --> 00:36:26,000 scoffed at warnings that the institution of marriage is threatened. 641 00:36:26,020 --> 00:36:28,410 Well, gee, Hawaii is pretty far away, 642 00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,310 won't the ocean stop it? 643 00:36:32,060 --> 00:36:33,080 Congress was worried that if 644 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:34,950 Hawaii allowed same-sex marriages, 645 00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:37,890 the practice would spread to other states. 646 00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:43,870 The Defense of Marriage Act would establish a simple, 647 00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:49,540 clear federal definition of marriage as the legal union 648 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,950 of one man and one woman, 649 00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:55,450 and it will exempt sovereign states from being compelled 650 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:59,700 by a half-baked interpretation of the US Constitution. 651 00:36:59,730 --> 00:37:01,540 We all know what is going on here. 652 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:07,370 I regard this bill as a mean spirited form of Republican legislative gay-bashing, 653 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,700 cynically calculated to try and inflame the public 654 00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:13,160 eight weeks before the November 5th election. 655 00:37:13,190 --> 00:37:16,410 SENATOR: The Bill HR3396, the Defense of Marriage Act 656 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,230 has passed with 85 voting in favor and 14 against. 657 00:37:21,770 --> 00:37:24,330 NEWS REPORTER 8: President Bill Clinton in the dead of night, 658 00:37:24,350 --> 00:37:25,870 avoiding media coverage of the event, 659 00:37:25,890 --> 00:37:31,290 signed into law a bill denying federal recognition of gay and lesbian marriages. 660 00:37:31,310 --> 00:37:34,040 Clinton issued a written statement saying... 661 00:37:34,060 --> 00:37:36,890 (NEWS REPORTER 8 READING) 662 00:37:49,770 --> 00:37:52,040 JOHN ASHCROFT: We are unveiling a restructuring plan 663 00:37:52,060 --> 00:37:55,580 for the Immigration and Naturalization Service. 664 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,870 The terrorist attacks of September the 11th, 665 00:37:58,890 --> 00:38:00,870 underscored that we need better control 666 00:38:00,890 --> 00:38:05,650 over individuals coming to our shores from other nations. 667 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,730 I have to say I have some element of worry. 668 00:38:17,350 --> 00:38:21,370 Anything to do with immigration since September the 11th 669 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,350 is all that much harder. 670 00:38:24,980 --> 00:38:28,730 Especially people like ourselves who are on the fringe. 671 00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:33,200 RICHARD: We're still in the same position as 30 years ago. 672 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:38,200 It's so strange because we're more in the closet now on one level 673 00:38:38,230 --> 00:38:40,020 than when we first met. 674 00:38:41,810 --> 00:38:44,890 And, Darjeeling it, huh? 675 00:38:47,650 --> 00:38:49,290 Okay. Did you empty this teapot? 676 00:38:49,310 --> 00:38:51,870 I did. Oh, you put the leaves in... 677 00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:53,700 I, I just... I know. Oh, that's a mistake. 678 00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:55,500 I should have put hot water first but... 679 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,290 But, yeah, no, but see there is water in there and it's gonna make... 680 00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:59,870 Yeah, this gets hot water, yeah, right. 681 00:38:59,890 --> 00:39:00,870 No, but the leaves are getting damp. 682 00:39:00,890 --> 00:39:02,410 Oh, that's it. I've been doing it like this for years... 683 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,370 You haven't said... That's why I make it myself when I'm having more. 684 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,890 And you like my tea. 685 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,500 I think what this situation has created is this burden 686 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:21,270 of institutions trying to separate you or turning you into criminals. 687 00:39:27,940 --> 00:39:30,870 I remember one time going to a therapist and saying, 688 00:39:30,890 --> 00:39:35,660 "You know, we have allowed this issue to become a monster 689 00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:38,890 "and, uh, took over our relationship." 690 00:39:41,730 --> 00:39:44,370 I knew that they were having problems. 691 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,750 I knew that they fought 692 00:39:46,770 --> 00:39:52,790 and when my brother spoke to us, I could hear the stress in his voice. 693 00:39:52,810 --> 00:39:56,410 But, I think my brother has old-fashioned values. 694 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,870 His belief is when you've found somebody 695 00:39:58,890 --> 00:40:02,120 and you made that commitment to someone, 696 00:40:02,140 --> 00:40:03,870 you stick it through. 697 00:40:03,890 --> 00:40:04,870 (LAUGHING) FRIEND: There you go. 698 00:40:04,890 --> 00:40:08,690 TONY: So do I blow now? FRIENDS: Yes, yeah... 699 00:40:09,770 --> 00:40:11,830 (CHEERING) 700 00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:16,890 This is Tony's 60th birthday, well, in two days, 701 00:40:17,650 --> 00:40:18,700 and, uh, 702 00:40:18,730 --> 00:40:22,500 and I hope he lives that long. (LAUGHING) I'll kill him. 703 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,040 ELLEN: Now tell us your wish. No, I can't tell you my wish. 704 00:40:26,060 --> 00:40:27,540 (LAUGHING) 705 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,080 Can't tell you my wish. 706 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:29,620 (LAUGHING) 707 00:40:29,650 --> 00:40:34,830 Richard's mother traveled a tremendous, tremendous distance 708 00:40:34,850 --> 00:40:37,910 with us because frankly having a, uh, 709 00:40:37,940 --> 00:40:41,790 a white Australian homosexual arrive and scoop up a son was 710 00:40:41,810 --> 00:40:43,000 the, "Whoo, what have I got here?" 711 00:40:43,020 --> 00:40:46,450 But as the years have gone by, we've actually become good friends. 712 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,440 Come over here and I'll tell you what my wish is. Okay. 713 00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:50,540 Here. 714 00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,290 And, of course Richard doesn't know this. We do also occasionally 715 00:40:53,310 --> 00:40:55,950 discuss what's for his best interest. 716 00:40:55,980 --> 00:40:58,000 (LAUGHING) 717 00:40:58,020 --> 00:40:59,870 I want to say something. 718 00:40:59,890 --> 00:41:01,370 31 years ago Richard's mother met me, 719 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,870 and of course, all his sisters were alive then and his brother. 720 00:41:04,890 --> 00:41:05,870 They had all been born, 721 00:41:05,890 --> 00:41:07,870 and I have to say that I not only got Richard. 722 00:41:07,890 --> 00:41:10,870 I was so lucky, I got a wonderful family that I've grown to love. 723 00:41:10,890 --> 00:41:12,540 We've all taken a long time to get there 724 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:16,160 and I just want to say thank you very much for all being there. 725 00:41:16,190 --> 00:41:17,790 (LAUGHING) 726 00:41:17,810 --> 00:41:20,580 TONY: They're our family and we're their family. 727 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,250 They care about us and I know that they worry at times about us. 728 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:26,410 (LAUGHING) 729 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,290 RICHARD: Through all the difficulties, 730 00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:31,620 when we were unemployed, when we were looking for a home, 731 00:41:31,650 --> 00:41:35,580 my sisters always welcomed us with open arms. 732 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:40,890 If it wasn't for them I don't know how we could have survived. 733 00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:45,870 LAVI: Unfortunately, because of the Defense of Marriage Act 734 00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:47,910 an American citizen could do no more 735 00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:51,120 to sponsor their same-sex partner or same-sex spouse, 736 00:41:51,140 --> 00:41:53,730 than they could in decades past. 737 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:57,910 We need the United States government to behave now 738 00:41:57,940 --> 00:41:59,620 as it's supposed to now, 739 00:41:59,650 --> 00:42:02,080 so those of us living under this kind of nonsense 740 00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:05,560 can cease living that way and get on with our lives. 741 00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:14,290 Gay and lesbian couples in Massachusetts are already busy planning June weddings. 742 00:42:14,310 --> 00:42:16,790 And this is another symptom of the kind of 743 00:42:16,810 --> 00:42:19,890 judicial activism that we have seen. 744 00:42:21,310 --> 00:42:24,500 Remember that this body, the United States Senate and the Congress 745 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,120 with 85 votes did pass the Defense of Marriage Act. 746 00:42:27,140 --> 00:42:30,870 Well, if the gay marriage question were put to a nationwide vote, 747 00:42:30,890 --> 00:42:36,940 61% of Americans oppose laws to recognize same-sex marriages. 748 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,160 The hot button issue of same-sex marriage is 749 00:42:40,190 --> 00:42:42,040 front and center again in this country. 750 00:42:42,060 --> 00:42:44,790 California's highest court put it there today by 751 00:42:44,810 --> 00:42:48,770 striking down the state's ban on gay marriage. 752 00:42:55,810 --> 00:42:58,250 NEWS REPORTER 1: California joins only Massachusetts 753 00:42:58,270 --> 00:42:59,870 in officially allowing gay marriage. 754 00:42:59,890 --> 00:43:03,750 But come November, there will be yet another hurdle to clear 755 00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:04,790 for same-sex couples. 756 00:43:04,810 --> 00:43:08,750 In November, Californians will vote on a constitutional amendment 757 00:43:08,770 --> 00:43:10,870 defining marriage between a man and a woman. 758 00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:15,290 NEWS REPORTER 2: 26 other states across the country have similar amendments 759 00:43:15,310 --> 00:43:17,890 banning official gay unions. 760 00:43:23,020 --> 00:43:25,000 The issue on the ballot, Proposition number 8, 761 00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:30,870 the constitutional amendment that eliminates the rights of same-sex couples to marry 762 00:43:30,890 --> 00:43:33,580 has passed with about 52.5% of the voters 763 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,700 putting a stop to gay marriages in the state of California. 764 00:43:36,730 --> 00:43:39,700 Channel 4's Ted Chen live in West Hollywood tonight, 765 00:43:39,730 --> 00:43:41,580 and he's got the rest of the story. Ted. 766 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,870 Paul, uh, a spokesman for Yes on 8 said 767 00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:47,830 what Californians did was protect traditional marriage and 768 00:43:47,850 --> 00:43:48,870 reclaim a great tradition. 769 00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:51,950 But the No on 8 forces say that the passage of Prop 8 770 00:43:51,980 --> 00:43:57,700 is just a temporary defeat in the long march toward civil rights in America. 771 00:43:57,730 --> 00:44:01,620 This shows it's not... I mean, we've had a bit of an easy ride of late on the issue. 772 00:44:01,650 --> 00:44:03,790 This shows us the battle has got to keep going on. 773 00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:09,140 We've got to keep fighting and it's obvious that I have got to join everyone else 774 00:44:09,350 --> 00:44:10,890 in fighting this. 775 00:44:21,270 --> 00:44:23,870 So you've worked out what you're wearing? Yeah. 776 00:44:23,890 --> 00:44:25,080 Okay. 777 00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:29,520 You watch, I'll probably end up changing five times, you know how I am. 778 00:44:29,690 --> 00:44:30,950 Yeah, I think I'll wear what I'm... 779 00:44:30,980 --> 00:44:33,290 Okay, I'm gonna go around and get dressed. 780 00:44:33,310 --> 00:44:34,770 Yeah, okay. 781 00:44:35,350 --> 00:44:36,730 All right. 782 00:44:39,730 --> 00:44:42,450 Do you have any concerns about me speaking tonight? 783 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,890 I'm a bit, um, anxious what, you know, what could happen. 784 00:44:51,730 --> 00:44:53,870 I have your pills by the way. 785 00:44:53,890 --> 00:44:55,230 Good. 786 00:44:55,310 --> 00:44:59,850 My greatest concern for Tony is that one day 787 00:44:59,940 --> 00:45:03,750 officers of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement will 788 00:45:03,770 --> 00:45:06,450 roll up in front of his apartment building in their car, 789 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,440 get out, ring his doorbell and take him away. 790 00:45:12,270 --> 00:45:13,870 They'll take him to a detention facility 791 00:45:13,890 --> 00:45:16,870 and he would be put on a plane and deported to Australia 792 00:45:16,890 --> 00:45:20,140 where he obviously has not lived in decades. 793 00:45:22,190 --> 00:45:24,190 (CHEERING) 794 00:45:25,890 --> 00:45:30,580 We're here to achieve marriage equality in California. 795 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,910 LAVI: By stepping up, and making himself known, 796 00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:37,700 and raising his voice, Tony is risking everything. 797 00:45:37,730 --> 00:45:40,540 SPEAKER: Please welcome Tony and Richard. 798 00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,870 (CHEERING) 799 00:45:41,890 --> 00:45:42,790 Thank you. 800 00:45:42,810 --> 00:45:49,870 Beside me is Tony and I met him on Cinco de Mayo in 1971 801 00:45:49,890 --> 00:45:52,200 in a bar called The Closet. 802 00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:54,870 (AUDIENCE LAUGHING) 803 00:45:54,890 --> 00:45:56,250 We have loved each other 804 00:45:56,270 --> 00:46:01,100 and we share our lives together for almost 38 years. 805 00:46:01,310 --> 00:46:03,450 (CHEERING) 806 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,250 Richard and I were legally married in Boulder, Colorado, 807 00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:11,750 and some attorneys say to this day we are still legally married. 808 00:46:11,770 --> 00:46:15,350 (AUDIENCE CHEERING) 809 00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:17,000 In the last years, 810 00:46:17,020 --> 00:46:18,830 Richard had a stroke three years ago 811 00:46:18,850 --> 00:46:21,700 and last year, actually 12 months ago this month, 812 00:46:21,730 --> 00:46:23,870 I had two heart attacks and a stroke. 813 00:46:23,890 --> 00:46:27,520 We've come out of it very well nothing to worry about there. 814 00:46:27,890 --> 00:46:28,910 But... 815 00:46:28,940 --> 00:46:30,620 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) 816 00:46:30,650 --> 00:46:33,580 But what was wonderful and what got, got us through, 817 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,870 and we've talked about this, was our relationship. 818 00:46:36,890 --> 00:46:38,830 It was our need to live for each other. 819 00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:43,200 It wasn't a case of living for one's self, but for each other. 820 00:46:43,230 --> 00:46:46,020 And this is something that 821 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,620 that's so important about relationships. It's not just 822 00:46:50,650 --> 00:46:52,440 let's go off and get married. 823 00:46:52,850 --> 00:46:53,870 Thank you. 824 00:46:53,890 --> 00:46:56,520 (CHEERING) 825 00:46:57,890 --> 00:46:58,870 (CHANTING) Equal rights. 826 00:46:58,890 --> 00:47:00,790 When do we want it? Now! 827 00:47:00,810 --> 00:47:02,830 What do we want? Equal rights! 828 00:47:02,850 --> 00:47:05,190 When do we want it? Now! 829 00:47:05,650 --> 00:47:06,700 Here we go. Now! 830 00:47:06,730 --> 00:47:08,870 What do we want? Equal rights! 831 00:47:08,890 --> 00:47:11,440 When do we want it? Now! 832 00:47:12,890 --> 00:47:14,830 Hey, thank you for your talk, guys. 833 00:47:14,850 --> 00:47:16,830 Oh, thank you. Thanks a lot, yes. 834 00:47:16,850 --> 00:47:21,020 There is a lot of very grateful people that we showed up. 835 00:47:21,890 --> 00:47:23,950 I feel more open, you know, we're 836 00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:25,870 out of the closet in some ways. 837 00:47:25,890 --> 00:47:30,040 Oh, yes, it's nice to get out of the, uh, undocumented closet. 838 00:47:30,060 --> 00:47:31,810 (LAUGHING) 839 00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:34,270 So, we'll see what happens. 840 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:35,290 I don't know where the quote comes from, 841 00:47:35,310 --> 00:47:40,060 but the small seed and the mighty oak is grown, or a small acorn. 842 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,660 That's what I'm feeling. I'm feeling very, 843 00:47:42,690 --> 00:47:46,750 you know, when we did what we did it was, uh, a real shot in the dark. 844 00:47:46,770 --> 00:47:51,790 We went by conviction, but nothing, nothing else other than conviction 845 00:47:51,810 --> 00:47:53,520 and to see this is... 846 00:47:54,350 --> 00:47:56,440 I'm quite emotional actually. 847 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,650 I had a dream once where 848 00:47:58,850 --> 00:48:01,870 I saw the whole thing ending, you know. 849 00:48:01,890 --> 00:48:03,560 This was years ago, 850 00:48:03,940 --> 00:48:05,870 so hopefully, 851 00:48:05,890 --> 00:48:07,480 uh, that'll happen. 852 00:48:08,850 --> 00:48:11,520 (CHEERING) 853 00:48:33,890 --> 00:48:36,500 Have a seat inside here. Okay, thank you. 854 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:37,890 Thank you. 855 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,830 Everything is pretty much under control. 856 00:48:40,850 --> 00:48:44,700 Uh, I do have to say thank you for sending me off to the cardiologist, 857 00:48:44,730 --> 00:48:46,200 you saved my life. That's good. 858 00:48:46,230 --> 00:48:49,690 How, how about you, feeling okay overall? 859 00:48:49,770 --> 00:48:50,830 Yes, yeah. 860 00:48:50,850 --> 00:48:52,870 So, uh, how is the cigarettes going? 861 00:48:52,890 --> 00:48:56,870 Yeah, I have, I've been pretty good actually, yeah. 862 00:48:56,890 --> 00:49:01,700 Okay, as your doctor I, I am concerned about your smoking of course 863 00:49:01,730 --> 00:49:05,120 because I certainly don't want you to have any more strokes. 864 00:49:05,140 --> 00:49:05,540 Yeah. 865 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:10,890 And smoking is certainly a big risk factor for that. 866 00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:22,020 Let me just have you put your hands out like this, close your eyes. 867 00:49:27,140 --> 00:49:30,370 I, I think stress definitely plays a part in your health. 868 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:33,870 I definitely think so, I think about that now yeah. 869 00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:37,040 A big concern is what is our old, old age 870 00:49:37,060 --> 00:49:39,870 'cause we've save... Got nothing saved up for the future 871 00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:44,540 and I'm not going to be able to collect the Social Security that I've contributed to. 872 00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:48,540 They don't give it to you because of your immigration status. 873 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:48,870 Yes, you know. 874 00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:52,580 I hope that doesn't give you so much bitterness 875 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,250 and affecting your heart and everything. 876 00:49:54,270 --> 00:49:57,080 I'm not going to add to the damage by being bitter, no, 877 00:49:57,100 --> 00:50:02,890 and everyone pays the price for doing something and that's the price we've paid. 878 00:50:03,690 --> 00:50:06,000 RICHARD: My dream for the two of us 879 00:50:06,020 --> 00:50:10,600 is to focus on what is important in our lives, 880 00:50:10,850 --> 00:50:15,500 and think of smaller things like our relationship, 881 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,400 and to be closer to each other. 882 00:50:20,890 --> 00:50:24,080 Nice and cool here, huh? Oh, that's heaven. 883 00:50:24,100 --> 00:50:25,200 Yeah. 884 00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:28,290 Eh... You should be walking with me though, dear, not behind me. 885 00:50:28,310 --> 00:50:31,250 Yeah, that's right. I'm not Queen Elizabeth. 886 00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:32,890 Ah. (LAUGHING) 887 00:50:36,190 --> 00:50:39,950 You know, I don't know if I've ever told you this, but you know when you 888 00:50:39,980 --> 00:50:40,870 first shaved your head? Yeah. 889 00:50:40,890 --> 00:50:45,290 I... Don't take this the wrong way, I thought it was a great improvement. 890 00:50:45,310 --> 00:50:45,870 Oh. I really did. 891 00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:50,870 Yes, it was... Well, I've always suspected that my head was not bad. 892 00:50:50,890 --> 00:50:51,250 (LAUGHING) 893 00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:54,750 Well, I have a double crown, so I think it wouldn't be right on me. 894 00:50:54,770 --> 00:50:56,870 Yeah. But, by the way, do you know what they call 895 00:50:56,890 --> 00:50:58,890 a bald head in Australia? 896 00:50:59,140 --> 00:51:00,830 What? A nude nut. 897 00:51:00,850 --> 00:51:01,080 (LAUGHING) 898 00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:02,910 Anyhow, I'm going back to get some more coffee. 899 00:51:02,940 --> 00:51:05,890 Oh, well, can you get me some too? 900 00:51:08,190 --> 00:51:10,700 I'm learning to take life as it comes. 901 00:51:10,730 --> 00:51:13,980 Uh, it's sort of a strange patience. 902 00:51:14,890 --> 00:51:17,750 Hello, dear, would you like a treat? 903 00:51:17,770 --> 00:51:20,040 (DOG MOANING) Oh... 904 00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:22,870 (BARKING) Oh, good idea. 905 00:51:22,890 --> 00:51:28,120 TONY: Obviously, I am not earning the income I was born to earn, 906 00:51:28,140 --> 00:51:30,290 but, you know, as I've got older, it's not important. 907 00:51:30,310 --> 00:51:34,890 As long as I've got a roof over our head and the food on the table. 908 00:51:45,940 --> 00:51:48,620 I came down and I started doing some work on this, 909 00:51:48,650 --> 00:51:51,870 the border of Mexico and the United States. 910 00:51:51,890 --> 00:51:55,700 And when I went upstairs I asked Richard how long had I been, 911 00:51:55,730 --> 00:51:57,810 I'd been gone for hours. 912 00:51:57,890 --> 00:52:01,370 The principle behind this painting 913 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,870 is that we are building a fence 914 00:52:03,890 --> 00:52:06,890 to keep undocumented persons out, 915 00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:11,330 but a fence also serves to keep people in. 916 00:52:11,350 --> 00:52:12,160 I've become aware of this issue, 917 00:52:12,190 --> 00:52:17,650 because I have become an undocumented foreign national in the United States. 918 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,870 I have heard that the Immigration Department 919 00:52:20,890 --> 00:52:24,140 was notified that I was back in the country. 920 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,870 Why they haven't chosen to come after me? 921 00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:29,810 For a variety of reasons. 922 00:52:30,650 --> 00:52:34,230 Maybe they're ashamed of what they did in the past. 923 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,870 But, a great lesson I've learned from all of this 924 00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:43,620 is you have to live your life, 925 00:52:43,650 --> 00:52:46,450 but I will refuse to live in fear. 926 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:50,730 And I've had a relationship that's gone on now 40 years. 927 00:52:50,810 --> 00:52:53,770 And I have no regrets whatsoever. 928 00:52:53,850 --> 00:52:56,440 Give me one on the cheek, plant it. 929 00:53:00,890 --> 00:53:04,950 This is the one I want you to try, I got it yesterday I've never bought it before. 930 00:53:04,980 --> 00:53:08,790 RICHARD: We have thought that our case would be finished by now, 931 00:53:08,810 --> 00:53:12,870 even one of the judges said you know, 25-30 years 932 00:53:12,890 --> 00:53:13,870 it'll probably be no issue. 933 00:53:13,890 --> 00:53:16,750 But it's still an issue in this country. 934 00:53:16,770 --> 00:53:18,410 Mmm, that tastes good. 935 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,080 Yeah, I thought so. 936 00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:23,810 I could be dead when it's recognized, but it doesn't matter. 937 00:53:24,020 --> 00:53:29,850 It really doesn't matter. Because I know that we're, we're on our way. 938 00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:32,890 We're on our way to winning the battle. 939 00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:37,950 Meantime, there is this Fox News alert, 940 00:53:37,980 --> 00:53:42,000 the Obama Administration has just announced 941 00:53:42,020 --> 00:53:43,660 that it will no longer defend 942 00:53:43,690 --> 00:53:48,870 the same-sex marriage, no the Defense of Marriage Act in court. 943 00:53:48,890 --> 00:53:51,120 They call it DOMA, Defense of Marriage Act. 944 00:53:51,140 --> 00:53:52,000 President Clinton signed this thing. 945 00:53:52,020 --> 00:53:54,040 NEWS REPORTER 1: Late word tonight that gay marriage 946 00:53:54,060 --> 00:53:57,890 will become legal in New York State. 947 00:53:59,350 --> 00:54:00,450 It is signed! 948 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:00,870 (CHEERING) 949 00:54:00,890 --> 00:54:04,540 NEWS REPORTER 2: Washington State becomes the seventh state in the nation 950 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,540 to legalize same-sex marriage. 951 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,000 Maryland will today become the eighth state in the country 952 00:54:10,020 --> 00:54:11,120 to legalize gay marriage. 953 00:54:11,140 --> 00:54:15,330 Big story here today, is President Obama's reversal on gay marriage. 954 00:54:15,350 --> 00:54:18,660 It is important for me to go ahead and affirm, 955 00:54:18,690 --> 00:54:20,370 same-sex couples should be able to get married. 956 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,000 NEWS REPORTER 3: For the first time more than 50% of Americans 957 00:54:24,020 --> 00:54:25,870 say gay marriage should be legal. 958 00:54:25,890 --> 00:54:27,870 A federal appeals court today struck down 959 00:54:27,890 --> 00:54:29,750 parts of the National Defense of Marriage Act. 960 00:54:29,770 --> 00:54:33,250 For the first time in history voters have approved same-sex marriage 961 00:54:33,270 --> 00:54:36,870 and it's being hailed as a huge victory for gays and lesbians. 962 00:54:36,890 --> 00:54:40,370 It has gone to a ballot 33 times and failed, 963 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,200 and now in one night it is likely that four of four have won. 964 00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:46,160 This is absolutely extraordinary, 965 00:54:46,190 --> 00:54:49,330 and it's a change that has happened in, 966 00:54:49,350 --> 00:54:52,560 in hardly any time whatsoever. 967 00:55:03,730 --> 00:55:05,060 (MACHINE BEEPING) 968 00:55:11,980 --> 00:55:13,890 (SPEAKING IN A HOARSE VOICE) Well... 969 00:55:14,270 --> 00:55:15,620 I came in as, 970 00:55:15,650 --> 00:55:18,790 yeah, as an emergency yesterday 971 00:55:18,810 --> 00:55:22,440 because I could not... I could not breathe. 972 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,310 I thought I was close to death, but, um, 973 00:55:28,190 --> 00:55:32,950 I did manage to get Tony to call the ambulance. 974 00:55:32,980 --> 00:55:38,400 And they did come very quickly, and, uh, they have 975 00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:42,750 gotten some water out of my heart. 976 00:55:42,770 --> 00:55:46,730 So, um, we'll see what happens from there. 977 00:55:55,890 --> 00:56:00,250 He, um, started to, uh, get swelling in the ankles et cetera, 978 00:56:00,270 --> 00:56:03,310 and then he couldn't breathe et cetera, and we, 979 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,700 we got him to the emergency at the hospital. 980 00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:08,080 And then they discovered that there were cancer cells 981 00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:11,830 in the fluid that they, um, decanted 982 00:56:11,850 --> 00:56:18,650 and that, uh, he was diagnosed with stage four, um, lung cancer. 983 00:56:22,350 --> 00:56:23,650 Rich... 984 00:56:23,980 --> 00:56:25,700 There isn't air in this one. 985 00:56:25,730 --> 00:56:28,870 Huh. It registered full, but it's not full. 986 00:56:28,890 --> 00:56:31,520 That's what I thought, huh. 987 00:56:31,890 --> 00:56:34,080 Um... Let's do without. 988 00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:37,400 Let's do without. Yeah. You think you can do without? 989 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,910 It's only a meeting today 990 00:56:39,940 --> 00:56:40,910 to plan your, uh, chemo. Right. 991 00:56:40,940 --> 00:56:44,870 And what we really are concerned about is getting started as soon as possible. 992 00:56:44,890 --> 00:56:47,790 Right, I'd like to get going. Yeah. 993 00:56:47,810 --> 00:56:48,870 Like this week. 994 00:56:48,890 --> 00:56:50,870 Like tomorrow if it could be. Or even today. 995 00:56:50,890 --> 00:56:53,700 That's right. Right. Yeah. Even today. 996 00:56:53,730 --> 00:56:57,480 I of course, I want to be cured, 997 00:56:57,890 --> 00:56:59,310 but, uh, 998 00:57:00,890 --> 00:57:04,100 I have a lot of fears. 999 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,890 But you know what? 1000 00:57:08,310 --> 00:57:12,890 I think I'll pull through at this stage, 1001 00:57:13,060 --> 00:57:15,190 that's what I'm concerned with. 1002 00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:25,660 Shall we go out this way Rich or the other way? 1003 00:57:25,690 --> 00:57:26,660 Yeah, let's go out that way. 1004 00:57:26,690 --> 00:57:29,650 Okay, Jasper, you stay here, be a good doggie. 1005 00:57:40,350 --> 00:57:43,450 Good evening, tonight the Supreme Court of the United States 1006 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,910 says it is time to decide one of the most highly-charged 1007 00:57:46,940 --> 00:57:48,830 issues in this country, gay marriage. 1008 00:57:48,850 --> 00:57:51,000 NEWS REPORTER: The court agreed to take up the legal battle 1009 00:57:51,020 --> 00:57:52,870 over the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 1010 00:57:52,890 --> 00:57:57,790 It defines marriage as quote, "only a legal union between one man and one woman." 1011 00:57:57,810 --> 00:58:01,870 Oral arguments in this case should happen in the spring of 2013, 1012 00:58:01,890 --> 00:58:05,350 with a decision expected in June of that year. 1013 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,870 I just had a spoonful of the leftover grits, 1014 00:58:22,890 --> 00:58:24,450 now I know why they call them grits. 1015 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,600 They're gritty. (CHUCKLING) Oh, can you put this in? I... 1016 00:58:28,850 --> 00:58:33,480 Oh, that's good. Is everything okay? 1017 00:58:33,690 --> 00:58:34,870 Perfect. Okay. 1018 00:58:34,890 --> 00:58:35,830 (KNOCKING ON DOOR) 1019 00:58:35,850 --> 00:58:37,890 Anyhow, oh, this is Lavi here okay. 1020 00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:39,870 Ah, dear. 1021 00:58:39,890 --> 00:58:42,700 LAVI: So, it's been a while since I've seen you guys. 1022 00:58:42,730 --> 00:58:44,980 Mmm-hmm. How are you doing? 1023 00:58:45,060 --> 00:58:46,620 I'm doing very well. Yeah. 1024 00:58:46,650 --> 00:58:51,660 Very well, I just had my uh, chemotherapy, 1025 00:58:51,690 --> 00:58:52,870 and that's why I'm a little low on energy. 1026 00:58:52,890 --> 00:58:59,120 And the cancer is pressing on the, one of the nerves that lead to his vocal cord. 1027 00:58:59,140 --> 00:59:02,120 Are you feeling a little better today? Not quite. 1028 00:59:02,140 --> 00:59:05,750 No, you're certainly not yourself. No. 1029 00:59:05,770 --> 00:59:07,290 I know you don't have a lot of energy, so I want to 1030 00:59:07,310 --> 00:59:12,580 make sure that we use our time to talk about some of the legal details. 1031 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:18,850 You know, for years we've been talking about Tony's immigration status. 1032 00:59:19,140 --> 00:59:19,870 And we've been 1033 00:59:19,890 --> 00:59:23,870 hoping we were gonna get to a day where we could resolve this, 1034 00:59:23,890 --> 00:59:26,200 so that the two of you could put it behind you. 1035 00:59:26,230 --> 00:59:28,450 Yeah. And now the Supreme Court made 1036 00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,660 an announcement that was gonna decide whether 1037 00:59:31,690 --> 00:59:34,290 marriages would be recognized by the federal government, 1038 00:59:34,310 --> 00:59:36,000 including for immigration purposes. 1039 00:59:36,020 --> 00:59:39,290 And the fight that you started 1040 00:59:39,310 --> 00:59:41,910 will be decided probably by June. 1041 00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:43,810 Hmm. And... 1042 00:59:43,890 --> 00:59:46,450 You gotta be around for that. Yeah. 1043 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,890 You gotta be, it's just you know. He's got to. Yeah. 1044 00:59:50,890 --> 00:59:53,080 Certainly worked hard enough to get there, so... 1045 00:59:53,100 --> 00:59:55,870 (LAUGHING) It seems like all my life. 1046 00:59:55,890 --> 00:59:57,750 Right. Forty years, yeah. 1047 00:59:57,770 --> 00:59:59,870 Unfortunately we also have to plan for 1048 00:59:59,890 --> 01:00:03,230 what happens if Tony is by himself at that time. 1049 01:00:04,020 --> 01:00:05,410 What it means for me is that, 1050 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,080 we probably should consider you know, getting married in another state 1051 01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:11,870 since your marriage in Colorado was so long ago. 1052 01:00:11,890 --> 01:00:13,830 And we believe it's a valid marriage, 1053 01:00:13,850 --> 01:00:16,700 but we want to give a little extra protection here 1054 01:00:16,730 --> 01:00:17,410 and make sure that we have 1055 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,830 a marriage where there is absolutely no question at all. 1056 01:00:19,850 --> 01:00:26,600 So, I brought the papers to prepare for the Washington State marriage license today. 1057 01:00:27,650 --> 01:00:28,890 Is that okay? 1058 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,870 Well, I suppose actually, Richard, the way we can look at it 1059 01:00:32,890 --> 01:00:35,540 is as a reaffirmation of vows. 1060 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:37,040 I think that's the way to deal with it. Yeah. 1061 01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:38,660 Because you know... Yeah, that's the best way, yeah. 1062 01:00:38,690 --> 01:00:41,830 So, we, we will view it as a reaffirmation ceremony 1063 01:00:41,850 --> 01:00:44,700 and the state can view it as a marriage ceremony. 1064 01:00:44,730 --> 01:00:45,870 How does that feel? 1065 01:00:45,890 --> 01:00:46,620 Sounds good. Okay. 1066 01:00:46,650 --> 01:00:51,000 When we got married, Richard made one condition to the marriage ceremony. 1067 01:00:51,020 --> 01:00:54,540 Traditionally, it's... People say "until death do us part," 1068 01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:57,660 he had it changed to "as long as there is love." 1069 01:00:57,690 --> 01:01:01,870 And we've already said that if we had to go through another ceremony, 1070 01:01:01,890 --> 01:01:03,770 we'd keep those words there. 1071 01:01:12,060 --> 01:01:13,890 Would you excuse me for a second? 1072 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,270 (TONY SOBBING) 1073 01:01:34,810 --> 01:01:35,980 Oh, boy. 1074 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,660 The person I've become would not be the person 1075 01:01:46,690 --> 01:01:47,250 if I hadn't met Richard. 1076 01:01:47,270 --> 01:01:51,520 He turned me into the kind of human being that I wanted to be. 1077 01:01:51,850 --> 01:01:56,520 I feel even deeper and closer to him 1078 01:01:56,650 --> 01:02:02,870 because he expressed things this time that he didn't, never did before. 1079 01:02:02,890 --> 01:02:08,870 He's the most wonderful person I could have had in my life. 1080 01:02:08,890 --> 01:02:10,870 Even though he's irritating 1081 01:02:10,890 --> 01:02:12,870 (LAUGHING) 1082 01:02:12,890 --> 01:02:14,000 And my goodness, 1083 01:02:14,020 --> 01:02:18,890 but I'll overlook all that, yeah, yeah. 1084 01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,890 โ™ช Hallelujah, hallelujah 1085 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:44,480 โ™ช Hallelujah โ™ช 1086 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,580 We met during the hippie period of life 1087 01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:52,830 and we never gave up on the belief of peace, love, and happiness. 1088 01:02:52,850 --> 01:02:58,270 It was the ruling philosophy of our life all the way through. 1089 01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,270 When we came together, 1090 01:03:00,770 --> 01:03:02,870 we saw that authority had no right 1091 01:03:02,890 --> 01:03:05,870 to interfere with love and people loving each other. 1092 01:03:05,890 --> 01:03:09,450 And also a part of that love is Richard's family. 1093 01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,950 Where his family was our home was. 1094 01:03:11,980 --> 01:03:15,870 First of all, I want to refer to Richard's mother, Ellen, 1095 01:03:15,890 --> 01:03:18,660 Richard loved you dearly, you were his friend 1096 01:03:18,690 --> 01:03:21,080 and anything that affected you affected him. 1097 01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:24,540 His sisters and brothers, my sisters and brothers, 1098 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:28,000 we're family. We know what, uh, we're all on about, and, uh, 1099 01:03:28,020 --> 01:03:32,600 we all know how much Richard loved us and how much we loved Richard. 1100 01:03:32,940 --> 01:03:36,940 For 41 and a half years of 70 and three quarter years, 1101 01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:39,020 Richard has been in my life. 1102 01:03:40,020 --> 01:03:41,120 I'm a lucky one. 1103 01:03:41,140 --> 01:03:45,890 For two thirds of my life, I was a participant in a love story. 1104 01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:47,690 How great is that. 1105 01:03:47,810 --> 01:03:51,870 Even if I paid a high price for the life I have had, 1106 01:03:51,890 --> 01:03:55,890 I am grateful. I am truly grateful. 1107 01:03:56,650 --> 01:03:59,560 Thank you and thank you, Richard. 1108 01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:08,330 RADIO REPORTER 28: Richard Adams died a week ago at the age of 65, 1109 01:04:08,350 --> 01:04:12,790 he and his partner, Anthony Sullivan, Tony were gay marriage pioneers. 1110 01:04:12,810 --> 01:04:14,660 RADIO REPORTER 2: Their life's work was to try 1111 01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:15,870 to achieve equality for gay and lesbian people 1112 01:04:15,890 --> 01:04:19,450 in terms of marriage and immigration equality for GLBT couples. And... 1113 01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:24,440 RADIO REPORTER 3: Mr. Adams died earlier this month at the age of 65. 1114 01:04:32,690 --> 01:04:35,270 We, the people, 1115 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:39,600 declare today that the most evident of truths, 1116 01:04:39,890 --> 01:04:42,440 that all of us are created equal 1117 01:04:42,730 --> 01:04:45,890 is the star that guides us still. 1118 01:04:46,020 --> 01:04:47,830 Just as it guided our forebears 1119 01:04:47,850 --> 01:04:51,500 through Seneca Falls and Selma and Stonewall. 1120 01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:54,830 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) 1121 01:04:54,850 --> 01:04:58,620 Our journey is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters 1122 01:04:58,650 --> 01:05:01,850 are treated like anyone else under the law. 1123 01:05:02,310 --> 01:05:04,870 For if we are truly created equal, 1124 01:05:04,890 --> 01:05:07,870 then surely the love we commit to one another 1125 01:05:07,890 --> 01:05:09,830 must be equal as well. 1126 01:05:09,850 --> 01:05:12,810 (AUDIENCE APPLAUDING) 1127 01:05:13,060 --> 01:05:17,410 NEWS REPORTER 1: Today, as the Supreme Court heard a second day of arguments 1128 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:18,700 on same-sex marriage, 1129 01:05:18,730 --> 01:05:21,370 several justices raised concerns about DOMA. 1130 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,870 NEWS REPORTER 2: Today, in court Justice Ruth Ginsburg said 1131 01:05:23,890 --> 01:05:27,870 it seemed like a second-class system for gay couples. 1132 01:05:27,890 --> 01:05:30,270 (JUSTICE RUTH GINSBURG READING) 1133 01:05:35,140 --> 01:05:37,980 (JUSTICE KENNEDY READING) 1134 01:05:43,020 --> 01:05:44,870 So, Megan, we wait a decision by June, 1135 01:05:44,890 --> 01:05:46,870 but I would say if you're predicting at this point, 1136 01:05:46,890 --> 01:05:49,660 it doesn't look good for those who want to see DOMA survive 1137 01:05:49,690 --> 01:05:51,770 this particular case. Yeah. 1138 01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,440 Well, Jasper, decision time, 1139 01:06:11,890 --> 01:06:14,060 not that I think you're very interested. 1140 01:06:16,350 --> 01:06:17,870 And we'll talk to her in just a couple of minutes. 1141 01:06:17,890 --> 01:06:20,870 But, first it is a momentous day at the Supreme Court, 1142 01:06:20,890 --> 01:06:21,870 and we want to start there. 1143 01:06:21,890 --> 01:06:22,870 The justices are about to release 1144 01:06:22,890 --> 01:06:27,540 two of their most anticipated decisions on same-sex marriage. 1145 01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:30,000 NEWS REPORTER 3: The Supreme Court has just struck down 1146 01:06:30,020 --> 01:06:31,790 the federal Defense of Marriage Act. 1147 01:06:31,810 --> 01:06:35,950 It's a five-to-four decision written by Justice Anthony Kennedy. 1148 01:06:35,980 --> 01:06:40,540 And the Supreme Court here is saying that the federal government 1149 01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,870 can't make distinctions between same-sex 1150 01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:45,160 and opposite sex couples in terms of 1151 01:06:45,190 --> 01:06:47,870 what marriages the federal government will recognize. 1152 01:06:47,890 --> 01:06:49,870 It's a significant ruling from the Supreme Court... 1153 01:06:49,890 --> 01:06:52,000 No question about it, we want to get back to Peter Alexander. 1154 01:06:52,020 --> 01:06:55,910 He's at the White House he's got more reaction. Peter, what can you tell us? 1155 01:06:55,940 --> 01:06:58,370 Yeah, Savannah, we have now got our first formal reaction 1156 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,040 from the president of the United States Barack Obama 1157 01:07:00,060 --> 01:07:04,700 just tweeted, "Today's DOMA ruling is a historic step forward 1158 01:07:04,730 --> 01:07:06,500 for hash tag "Marriageequality," 1159 01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,870 and then he wrote, hash tag "Loveislove." 1160 01:07:09,890 --> 01:07:11,120 We also heard just moments... 1161 01:07:11,140 --> 01:07:12,080 (CELL PHONE RINGING) 1162 01:07:12,100 --> 01:07:14,750 top advisors during the course of his campaign. 1163 01:07:14,770 --> 01:07:16,790 Good morning, Cathy. (ON THE PHONE) Good morning. 1164 01:07:16,810 --> 01:07:20,870 Well, DOMA's been, uh, put out of the way. 1165 01:07:20,890 --> 01:07:23,870 Yes, but it's kind of bittersweet, right? 1166 01:07:23,890 --> 01:07:27,830 Yeah, I wish Butch was with, I really wish Butch was with me. 1167 01:07:27,850 --> 01:07:31,000 Um, it's, it's moments like these I hope there is a hereafter 1168 01:07:31,020 --> 01:07:33,870 and he's sitting on some little cloud watching down, 1169 01:07:33,890 --> 01:07:36,600 uh, other than just sitting in my heart. 1170 01:07:36,850 --> 01:07:37,980 Exactly. 1171 01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:39,120 You know, but, um, 1172 01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:43,450 you can be very, well, you already are proud of your brother but, uh, 1173 01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,060 you know, it's, uh, a bittersweet victory. 1174 01:07:47,350 --> 01:07:50,540 Richard was fighting for the right of a lot of people 1175 01:07:50,560 --> 01:07:53,450 that probably wanted to do what he did, 1176 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,730 but didn't have the courage. 1177 01:07:55,890 --> 01:07:58,350 (PEOPLE CHEERING) 1178 01:07:59,810 --> 01:08:01,980 I just wish my brother was here 1179 01:08:03,850 --> 01:08:05,190 to see all this. 1180 01:08:15,890 --> 01:08:17,950 NEWS REPORTER 1: The Supreme Court said resoundingly today 1181 01:08:17,980 --> 01:08:21,370 federal law must change, there must be equality 1182 01:08:21,390 --> 01:08:23,830 for same-sex couples who marry. 1183 01:08:23,850 --> 01:08:25,040 And the implications are sweeping. 1184 01:08:25,060 --> 01:08:28,290 NEWS REPORTER 37: The court said DOMA serves no legitimate government purpose, 1185 01:08:28,310 --> 01:08:32,580 instead it demeans those who are in a lawful same-sex marriage 1186 01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,500 declaring their marriages less worthy. 1187 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:36,410 NEWS REPORTER 38: The ruling means gay US citizens 1188 01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:39,450 can now sponsor their immigrant spouses for green cards. 1189 01:08:39,480 --> 01:08:45,200 Outside the courtroom jubilation knowing that the court had instantly created 1190 01:08:45,230 --> 01:08:46,980 a different future. 1191 01:08:47,190 --> 01:08:49,810 (CHEERING) 1192 01:08:51,140 --> 01:08:53,200 Our toast is to Richard, 1193 01:08:53,230 --> 01:08:57,620 who didn't survive long enough to see this wonderful day, 1194 01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:58,940 this is for you. 1195 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:02,100 (CHEERING) 1196 01:09:07,730 --> 01:09:12,450 It's really a little hard to absorb because I've lived with it now for four decades. 1197 01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:16,450 It's interesting the swing vote being Justice Anthony Kennedy, 1198 01:09:16,480 --> 01:09:18,870 he being the judge who wrote the decision 1199 01:09:18,890 --> 01:09:23,580 denying me the ability to legally stay in the United States, 1200 01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,160 uh, back in 1985. 1201 01:09:25,190 --> 01:09:27,540 He has redeemed himself and, uh, 1202 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:30,370 we should always be grateful when people do that because we, 1203 01:09:30,390 --> 01:09:32,890 we all must be open to change. 1204 01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:44,870 What an incredible couple of days this has been, 1205 01:09:44,890 --> 01:09:46,950 what was once impossible, 1206 01:09:46,980 --> 01:09:50,870 uh, is now not only happening, 1207 01:09:50,890 --> 01:09:52,450 it's, it's only gonna get better from here. 1208 01:09:52,480 --> 01:09:57,080 One of our honorees, Tony Sullivan and his partner Richard Adams, 1209 01:09:57,100 --> 01:10:01,290 were the first couple to apply and be denied 1210 01:10:01,310 --> 01:10:04,910 by the immigration agency based on their relationship. 1211 01:10:04,940 --> 01:10:09,410 So, tonight we are honoring the first couple to be denied, 1212 01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:11,500 and recognizing that tonight 1213 01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,450 the first couple has been approved. 1214 01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:17,350 (AUDIENCE CHEERING) 1215 01:10:20,980 --> 01:10:24,410 So, we are here tonight to celebrate. And we have 1216 01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:26,600 someone who I think is gonna 1217 01:10:26,890 --> 01:10:29,310 take us into celebration mode. 1218 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:30,870 Peaches Christ. 1219 01:10:30,890 --> 01:10:33,890 (AUDIENCE CHEERING) 1220 01:10:36,890 --> 01:10:38,620 Tonight, we are honoring 1221 01:10:38,650 --> 01:10:41,330 Richard Adams and Tony Sullivan. 1222 01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:44,660 We stand together and recognize both Tony and Richard 1223 01:10:44,690 --> 01:10:47,660 in their fight for justice, equality and the rights of all. 1224 01:10:47,690 --> 01:10:53,040 It is my honor to present the American Heritage Award to Tony Sullivan 1225 01:10:53,060 --> 01:10:55,620 and to Richard Adams, whose sister Cathy 1226 01:10:55,650 --> 01:10:58,560 is accepting the award on his behalf. 1227 01:11:02,060 --> 01:11:04,330 Thank you very much first of all. 1228 01:11:04,350 --> 01:11:06,500 Cathy came down to the immigration court 1229 01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,870 when she was a young teenager 1230 01:11:07,890 --> 01:11:10,830 to say that if the immigration kicked me out of the country 1231 01:11:10,850 --> 01:11:13,950 they would be destroying a family that she was a part of. 1232 01:11:13,980 --> 01:11:17,450 And so, that's why she's here tonight with me. 1233 01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:20,060 (APPLAUDING) 1234 01:11:21,190 --> 01:11:23,190 The day before Richard died 1235 01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:26,500 he said, "Tony, I want you to know something." 1236 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:31,370 He said, "I love you so much more now than I ever did when I first met you," 1237 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:35,810 and I said to Richard, "I feel exactly the same." 1238 01:11:36,230 --> 01:11:39,250 And then the next day I got hit with a thought, 1239 01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:43,200 and I came running upstairs and said, "Richard, I've got to tell you something, 1240 01:11:43,230 --> 01:11:44,650 "we won." 1241 01:11:44,890 --> 01:11:46,120 And he said, "What do you mean?" 1242 01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:47,330 I said, "We won." 1243 01:11:47,350 --> 01:11:48,870 And Richard always listened and thought, 1244 01:11:48,890 --> 01:11:52,870 you could always see the thought process going on in the pause before he spoke. 1245 01:11:52,890 --> 01:11:56,540 I said, "We won. They never managed to separate us." 1246 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,890 (APPLAUDING) 1247 01:12:02,770 --> 01:12:06,200 And then he looked at me and he paused and he thought, 1248 01:12:06,230 --> 01:12:09,140 and he said, "You're right. 1249 01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,700 "We won," and we did indeed win. 1250 01:12:12,730 --> 01:12:16,270 And there is one thing I'd like to say to Richard now, 1251 01:12:17,060 --> 01:12:20,890 and that is, "Richard, today 1252 01:12:21,060 --> 01:12:23,910 "when the couple got their green card, 1253 01:12:23,940 --> 01:12:27,540 "we not only won, but they will never write another letter 1254 01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:30,950 "to a gay couple saying a bona fide marital relationship 1255 01:12:30,980 --> 01:12:33,870 "cannot exist between two faggots." 1256 01:12:33,890 --> 01:12:36,850 (APPLAUDING) 1257 01:12:44,020 --> 01:12:45,310 Thank you. 102014

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