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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:17,184 --> 00:00:20,187 [ambient nature sounds] 2 00:00:32,866 --> 00:00:35,827 [serene music] 3 00:00:35,869 --> 00:00:42,876 ♪ ♪ 4 00:00:49,550 --> 00:00:52,553 [bird squawking] 5 00:01:10,904 --> 00:01:13,907 [bird squawking] 6 00:01:28,797 --> 00:01:31,800 [birds squawking] 7 00:01:34,261 --> 00:01:37,389 - [blowing softly] 8 00:01:41,810 --> 00:01:44,771 [blows] 9 00:01:48,025 --> 00:01:50,068 There's a bunch of 'em on this bird. 10 00:01:50,110 --> 00:01:52,738 Several of 'em right here on the top of the head. 11 00:01:56,366 --> 00:02:00,120 There's another one just loose. 12 00:02:00,162 --> 00:02:02,122 And just dropped. 13 00:02:02,164 --> 00:02:03,373 [chuckles] 14 00:02:03,415 --> 00:02:05,751 We may not see that one again. 15 00:02:05,792 --> 00:02:07,461 This is really quite unusual. 16 00:02:07,503 --> 00:02:08,628 Two of 'em just fell off here. 17 00:02:08,669 --> 00:02:10,589 They're all apparently completely engorged, 18 00:02:10,631 --> 00:02:12,799 and ready just to fall off. 19 00:02:15,844 --> 00:02:18,889 [music builds] 20 00:02:47,918 --> 00:02:51,713 - Here's one. Here's one. 21 00:02:51,755 --> 00:02:53,715 Here. 22 00:02:53,757 --> 00:02:55,091 Here. Here. 23 00:02:57,469 --> 00:03:01,682 So that's 81 larvae in one 30-meter drag. 24 00:03:04,518 --> 00:03:05,602 - We have this project 25 00:03:05,644 --> 00:03:07,062 where we're testing ticks 26 00:03:07,104 --> 00:03:09,064 from all over the country. 27 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:12,401 These are ticks that are coming into contact with people. 28 00:03:13,318 --> 00:03:14,945 - Texas, New York, 29 00:03:14,987 --> 00:03:18,323 Virginia, Florida, Pennsylvania, Missouri, 30 00:03:18,365 --> 00:03:20,826 Oklahoma, Wyoming, California, 31 00:03:20,868 --> 00:03:23,912 Georgia, Ohio, Indiana, Nevada, 32 00:03:23,954 --> 00:03:26,415 Alabama, North Carolina. 33 00:03:29,668 --> 00:03:32,004 - Ticks are not just in the Northeast, 34 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:34,339 where we classically think they are. 35 00:03:34,381 --> 00:03:36,508 They're in the South. They're in the far West. 36 00:03:36,550 --> 00:03:38,552 And that means that these things are everywhere. 37 00:03:38,594 --> 00:03:41,555 [suspenseful music] 38 00:03:41,597 --> 00:03:44,391 ♪ ♪ 39 00:03:44,433 --> 00:03:45,642 - There is an epidemic 40 00:03:45,684 --> 00:03:47,102 disease spreading across 41 00:03:47,144 --> 00:03:49,021 the United States. 42 00:03:49,062 --> 00:03:51,190 It's called Lyme disease. 43 00:03:51,231 --> 00:03:52,733 It's serious and can be fatal. 44 00:03:54,317 --> 00:03:56,445 - As it digs in for a meal of blood, 45 00:03:56,486 --> 00:03:58,238 it can inject the germ it carries 46 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,490 right into your bloodstream. 47 00:04:00,532 --> 00:04:04,036 Shaped like a corkscrew and called a spirochete, 48 00:04:04,077 --> 00:04:06,872 first cousin of the spirochete that causes syphilis, 49 00:04:06,914 --> 00:04:08,624 and equally elusive. 50 00:04:10,584 --> 00:04:13,170 - The disease causes symptoms that look like dementia, 51 00:04:13,212 --> 00:04:14,630 Alzheimer's disease, 52 00:04:14,671 --> 00:04:17,173 multiple sclerosis, ALS. 53 00:04:18,634 --> 00:04:20,844 - Meanwhile, debate is growing over the proper treatment 54 00:04:20,886 --> 00:04:22,346 for Lyme disease. 55 00:04:22,387 --> 00:04:23,847 all: Lyme is spreading! 56 00:04:23,889 --> 00:04:25,390 - Most cases respond 57 00:04:25,432 --> 00:04:27,059 to treatment with antibiotics, 58 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:28,852 but others do not. 59 00:04:28,894 --> 00:04:31,522 Whether they suffer from a chronic form of the disease 60 00:04:31,563 --> 00:04:33,941 is a hotly contested debate among doctors, 61 00:04:33,982 --> 00:04:35,901 patients, and insurance companies. 62 00:04:37,444 --> 00:04:40,322 - There is a public perception that Lyme disease 63 00:04:40,364 --> 00:04:43,534 can routinely present in a myriad of ways. 64 00:04:43,575 --> 00:04:44,909 That is incorrect. 65 00:04:44,952 --> 00:04:46,870 - Right now, my hands are burning. 66 00:04:46,912 --> 00:04:47,913 My feet are burning. 67 00:04:47,955 --> 00:04:49,623 Every joint in my body 68 00:04:49,665 --> 00:04:51,250 hurts all day. 69 00:04:51,291 --> 00:04:53,126 That's Lyme disease. 70 00:04:53,168 --> 00:04:56,088 - You brought a tick. 71 00:04:56,129 --> 00:04:59,633 - The Lyme disease, the ticks, they're everywhere. 72 00:04:59,675 --> 00:05:02,553 - Last year, there were cases reported in 24 states. 73 00:05:02,594 --> 00:05:04,930 - 37 states. - 43 states. 74 00:05:04,972 --> 00:05:06,598 - 45 states. 75 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:08,851 - And it may be as close as your backyard. 76 00:05:08,892 --> 00:05:11,854 [suspenseful music] 77 00:05:11,895 --> 00:05:18,902 ♪ ♪ 78 00:05:27,828 --> 00:05:30,831 [ambient noises] 79 00:06:05,657 --> 00:06:07,242 - [sighs] 80 00:06:09,786 --> 00:06:12,998 I get a really guilty feeling when I come down here. 81 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:18,795 Because, uh, you know, 82 00:06:18,837 --> 00:06:20,631 I guess it's about starting something 83 00:06:20,672 --> 00:06:22,925 that I was never able to finish. 84 00:06:25,010 --> 00:06:27,387 And it kind of just reminds me 85 00:06:27,429 --> 00:06:29,890 of when life used to be normal. 86 00:06:29,932 --> 00:06:32,893 [soft dramatic music] 87 00:06:32,935 --> 00:06:34,311 ♪ ♪ 88 00:06:34,353 --> 00:06:37,606 It's really hard to make people understand what's at stake. 89 00:06:39,441 --> 00:06:42,611 It's so much more than just suffering and disease. 90 00:06:42,653 --> 00:06:45,656 [kids vocalizing] 91 00:06:48,116 --> 00:06:52,329 It's like an atomic bomb drops down on your life 92 00:06:52,371 --> 00:06:56,667 and just turns everything upside down. 93 00:06:57,835 --> 00:07:00,045 Tons of medications. 94 00:07:00,087 --> 00:07:01,839 These are pill organizers. 95 00:07:02,714 --> 00:07:04,466 Oxygen. 96 00:07:06,385 --> 00:07:08,512 Empty meds. 97 00:07:08,554 --> 00:07:10,931 Those are all full. 98 00:07:10,973 --> 00:07:13,225 This is what life became. 99 00:07:13,267 --> 00:07:15,936 I--I would let it all burn 100 00:07:15,978 --> 00:07:18,397 just to see Julia walk. 101 00:07:18,438 --> 00:07:21,149 Let's see you go. Do it. Let's see you go. 102 00:07:22,734 --> 00:07:25,070 - As a kid, I was very eager. 103 00:07:26,363 --> 00:07:28,073 I was very active. 104 00:07:28,115 --> 00:07:29,616 I loved to dance. 105 00:07:31,076 --> 00:07:33,412 And I used to love to ride my bike. 106 00:07:33,453 --> 00:07:36,206 - Feeling good? - Fine. 107 00:07:36,248 --> 00:07:38,584 But those things about me started to change. 108 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,254 Even though I knew something was wrong, 109 00:07:42,296 --> 00:07:44,506 I never imagined it would be this. 110 00:07:54,975 --> 00:07:57,269 Like a week before I started 111 00:07:57,311 --> 00:07:59,855 to get seriously ill, 112 00:07:59,897 --> 00:08:01,857 well, I started to notice it was hard 113 00:08:01,899 --> 00:08:03,650 to get out of bed in the morning. 114 00:08:03,692 --> 00:08:05,235 And you know, everybody has those days 115 00:08:05,277 --> 00:08:07,487 where they can't imagine waking up. 116 00:08:07,529 --> 00:08:10,449 But it was every day, and it took me, like, 117 00:08:10,490 --> 00:08:11,950 an hour to get out of bed. 118 00:08:13,243 --> 00:08:15,913 The second week that I was sick, 119 00:08:15,954 --> 00:08:17,956 I was just sitting in class, 120 00:08:17,998 --> 00:08:20,459 and my legs went numb. 121 00:08:20,501 --> 00:08:21,752 - The school called me, and they said, 122 00:08:21,793 --> 00:08:23,462 "Something is seriously wrong with Julia. 123 00:08:23,504 --> 00:08:25,589 You need to get here right away." 124 00:08:25,631 --> 00:08:26,632 When I got there, 125 00:08:26,673 --> 00:08:29,259 I found Julia in the nurse's office, 126 00:08:29,301 --> 00:08:31,470 and she was just lifeless 127 00:08:31,512 --> 00:08:32,888 across two chairs. 128 00:08:32,929 --> 00:08:35,599 And I went to go nudge Julia, and I'm like, "Julia. Julia. 129 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,058 What's the matter? What happened?" 130 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:38,684 She's like, "Dad, I can't see." 131 00:08:38,727 --> 00:08:40,854 And she said, "I can't feel my arms, 132 00:08:40,895 --> 00:08:43,065 and I can't feel my legs." 133 00:08:43,106 --> 00:08:45,150 So I took her straight to the hospital. 134 00:08:47,778 --> 00:08:50,489 Julia was tested for everything several times, 135 00:08:50,531 --> 00:08:54,409 not just once, and everything comes back negative. 136 00:08:54,451 --> 00:08:57,120 It was a very confusing time. 137 00:08:57,162 --> 00:08:59,373 I felt like Julia was dying. 138 00:08:59,414 --> 00:09:03,210 So I spent a lot of time researching all her symptoms. 139 00:09:03,252 --> 00:09:05,212 Julia's doctor would come to me and say, 140 00:09:05,254 --> 00:09:07,756 "Did you find anything else that we could test for?" 141 00:09:07,798 --> 00:09:09,341 So I would give her a list, 142 00:09:09,383 --> 00:09:12,553 and she would run tests for everything I gave her. 143 00:09:12,594 --> 00:09:14,888 Again, I put in the search with Julia's symptoms, 144 00:09:14,930 --> 00:09:17,558 and Lyme disease comes up. 145 00:09:17,599 --> 00:09:20,185 And I said, "I have to read this." 146 00:09:20,227 --> 00:09:22,271 And then I started researching the area 147 00:09:22,312 --> 00:09:24,439 that we vacationed in, 148 00:09:24,481 --> 00:09:27,192 the area around our house. 149 00:09:27,234 --> 00:09:29,444 There's Lyme disease in these areas. 150 00:09:30,445 --> 00:09:32,739 The story is told very clearly 151 00:09:32,781 --> 00:09:35,325 just looking at her medical records. 152 00:09:35,367 --> 00:09:36,827 You know, Julia got bit by a tick 153 00:09:36,869 --> 00:09:38,912 when she was nine years old. 154 00:09:38,954 --> 00:09:43,458 She went undiagnosed for the next two years. 155 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:44,960 I felt like somebody threw a bucket 156 00:09:45,002 --> 00:09:46,920 of ice water over my head. 157 00:09:46,962 --> 00:09:49,923 I called Josephine. I called the kids. 158 00:09:49,965 --> 00:09:51,383 I--I tell them, "I know what she's got. 159 00:09:51,425 --> 00:09:52,968 She's got Lyme." 160 00:09:53,010 --> 00:09:56,638 And when the doctor came in, it was like night and day. 161 00:09:56,680 --> 00:09:59,766 She went from being this wonderful, supporting doctor, 162 00:09:59,808 --> 00:10:01,185 willing to try anything, 163 00:10:01,226 --> 00:10:04,897 to adamant, "No, impossible. This is not it." 164 00:10:04,938 --> 00:10:07,900 [inquisitive music] 165 00:10:07,941 --> 00:10:09,067 ♪ ♪ 166 00:10:09,109 --> 00:10:12,738 I mean, it was almost like as if we were using profanity, 167 00:10:12,779 --> 00:10:14,990 like "Lyme disease" was a bad word. 168 00:10:16,366 --> 00:10:19,828 They saw nothing wrong in the laboratory test, 169 00:10:19,870 --> 00:10:22,372 and they figured she must be faking it. 170 00:10:24,166 --> 00:10:26,960 - I remember just hearing that and, like, 171 00:10:27,002 --> 00:10:28,378 I--I couldn't believe it. 172 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:31,632 Like, I'm having real symptoms. 173 00:10:31,673 --> 00:10:34,551 I was comatose. I was losing my hair. 174 00:10:34,593 --> 00:10:36,512 - Fever, flaccid paralysis. 175 00:10:36,553 --> 00:10:38,931 How could she be faking fever? 176 00:10:38,972 --> 00:10:41,892 The color blue. She was blue in color. 177 00:10:43,769 --> 00:10:47,439 The doctor insisted that this had to be conversion syndrome. 178 00:10:51,485 --> 00:10:53,612 I felt like we were being attacked. 179 00:10:53,654 --> 00:10:56,990 And I felt like I had to start recording what was going on. 180 00:11:46,456 --> 00:11:47,833 - [sniffles] 181 00:11:47,875 --> 00:11:50,335 She was only 11 years old. 182 00:11:50,377 --> 00:11:52,629 You know, and she had a-- 183 00:11:52,671 --> 00:11:54,506 she had to put up an argument like that. 184 00:11:55,632 --> 00:11:57,676 The first thing I think of is, 185 00:11:57,718 --> 00:12:00,846 how many people go through this 186 00:12:00,888 --> 00:12:02,806 and then just go home and suffer in silence? 187 00:12:06,059 --> 00:12:09,062 [birds singing] 188 00:12:33,378 --> 00:12:37,883 - I came to the Lyme disease controversy as an outsider, 189 00:12:37,925 --> 00:12:39,593 as an investigative reporter 190 00:12:39,635 --> 00:12:40,761 who wanted to find out 191 00:12:40,802 --> 00:12:42,179 what was going on. 192 00:12:43,180 --> 00:12:45,057 I went into it intending 193 00:12:45,098 --> 00:12:48,060 to look at the trend in Lyme disease cases. 194 00:12:48,977 --> 00:12:52,689 Was government doing enough to control ticks? 195 00:12:52,731 --> 00:12:55,817 I also wanted to know why I could get a vaccine 196 00:12:55,859 --> 00:12:58,070 for my dog but there was none 197 00:12:58,111 --> 00:13:00,280 for my children and grandchildren. 198 00:13:00,322 --> 00:13:03,283 [tense music] 199 00:13:03,325 --> 00:13:04,326 ♪ ♪ 200 00:13:04,368 --> 00:13:08,997 The main question is whether Lyme disease is chronic. 201 00:13:09,039 --> 00:13:12,125 Does it respond to the short courses 202 00:13:12,167 --> 00:13:14,545 of antibiotics that are recommended? 203 00:13:16,421 --> 00:13:18,841 By and large, a small group 204 00:13:18,882 --> 00:13:22,052 of researchers and government officials 205 00:13:22,094 --> 00:13:26,598 basically say short courses of antibiotics cure. 206 00:13:30,018 --> 00:13:32,479 There was another side, though. 207 00:13:32,521 --> 00:13:35,482 I found patients who had been 208 00:13:35,524 --> 00:13:38,735 to 10, 15, 20 doctors, 209 00:13:38,777 --> 00:13:43,532 and they still had lingering, serious symptoms, 210 00:13:43,574 --> 00:13:46,994 and were tired of being ignored. 211 00:13:49,413 --> 00:13:53,125 What I found after two or three stories 212 00:13:53,165 --> 00:13:58,463 was that I had waded into one of the most controversial, 213 00:13:58,505 --> 00:14:04,636 divisive, and vicious medical debates in medicine today. 214 00:14:05,804 --> 00:14:08,765 [sweeping music] 215 00:14:08,807 --> 00:14:12,895 ♪ ♪ 216 00:14:12,936 --> 00:14:15,355 - There is a medical detection story in the making. 217 00:14:15,397 --> 00:14:18,066 It deals with arthritis and the possibility 218 00:14:18,108 --> 00:14:20,861 that a type of arthritis may have been uncovered 219 00:14:20,903 --> 00:14:23,488 which is caused by an insect bite. 220 00:14:24,573 --> 00:14:26,241 The outbreak of arthritis is centered 221 00:14:26,283 --> 00:14:28,368 in Lyme, Connecticut, a small town located 222 00:14:28,410 --> 00:14:30,162 on the Connecticut River. 223 00:14:30,204 --> 00:14:32,289 In the past three years, there have been 51 224 00:14:32,331 --> 00:14:34,750 reported cases of the mysterious arthritis. 225 00:14:34,790 --> 00:14:36,877 Several adults have been treated, 226 00:14:36,919 --> 00:14:39,671 but most of the victims are children. 227 00:14:39,713 --> 00:14:42,007 - So in the early 1970s, 228 00:14:42,049 --> 00:14:45,385 Allen Steere is a newly minted rheumatologist 229 00:14:45,427 --> 00:14:48,931 who has also studied epidemiology, namely, 230 00:14:48,972 --> 00:14:52,518 "How do we define and count diseases?" 231 00:14:52,559 --> 00:14:54,436 He's the guy from Yale 232 00:14:54,478 --> 00:14:57,648 who answers the call of a young mother 233 00:14:57,689 --> 00:14:59,983 who reports that two of her children 234 00:15:00,025 --> 00:15:03,403 have been diagnosed with juvenile arthritis, 235 00:15:03,445 --> 00:15:05,280 as have a number of others. 236 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,700 - Let me ask you, Dr. Steere, how did you get on the trail 237 00:15:08,742 --> 00:15:11,495 of this particular form of arthritis? 238 00:15:11,537 --> 00:15:14,414 - Frank, a number of parents in this community 239 00:15:14,456 --> 00:15:16,625 were concerned that so many children 240 00:15:16,667 --> 00:15:18,627 seemed to have arthritis. 241 00:15:18,669 --> 00:15:21,880 This is where the medical detective story comes in. 242 00:15:21,922 --> 00:15:24,716 Actually, like a detective, 243 00:15:24,758 --> 00:15:27,511 you try to determine where the people were 244 00:15:27,553 --> 00:15:30,889 when they got their illness, when it occurred, 245 00:15:30,931 --> 00:15:33,016 where they were in relation to one another. 246 00:15:34,518 --> 00:15:37,813 - In 1977, he publishes a paper 247 00:15:37,855 --> 00:15:41,066 on an epidemic of arthritis. 248 00:15:41,108 --> 00:15:43,986 Dr. Steere found that 25% 249 00:15:44,027 --> 00:15:47,614 of that original Lyme disease group had something of a rash, 250 00:15:47,656 --> 00:15:50,117 a bull's-eye rash. 251 00:15:50,158 --> 00:15:53,245 And he also links this illness 252 00:15:53,287 --> 00:15:55,247 to the bite of a tick. 253 00:15:56,373 --> 00:16:00,002 But as time went on, his focus changed, 254 00:16:00,043 --> 00:16:04,673 and Dr. Steere was recognized in the Lyme community 255 00:16:04,715 --> 00:16:07,384 as someone who was not their ally. 256 00:16:07,426 --> 00:16:10,721 all: Lyme is spreading! Lyme is spreading! 257 00:16:10,762 --> 00:16:14,474 - All we want is long-term treatment. 258 00:16:15,684 --> 00:16:18,437 - If a patient thinks that they have Lyme disease, 259 00:16:18,478 --> 00:16:20,439 are being treated with antibiotic therapy, 260 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,568 and are not responding, the most common reason 261 00:16:24,610 --> 00:16:26,612 is that they actually have another illness. 262 00:16:26,653 --> 00:16:29,489 [soft dramatic music] 263 00:16:29,531 --> 00:16:31,950 - As Lyme disease evolved, 264 00:16:31,992 --> 00:16:34,328 doctors needed guidance. 265 00:16:34,369 --> 00:16:36,580 So a group got together, 266 00:16:36,622 --> 00:16:40,209 called the Infectious Diseases Society of America, 267 00:16:40,250 --> 00:16:43,962 and wrote the first guidelines to treat Lyme disease, 268 00:16:44,004 --> 00:16:46,340 where they staked their claim 269 00:16:46,381 --> 00:16:49,301 that this disease was not chronic. 270 00:16:49,343 --> 00:16:52,095 ♪ ♪ 271 00:16:52,137 --> 00:16:55,098 - This is a fairly benign disease if treated early. 272 00:16:55,140 --> 00:16:57,851 - It has, on occasion, been life-disruptive, 273 00:16:57,893 --> 00:17:00,479 but I don't want to overemphasize that fact. 274 00:17:01,980 --> 00:17:05,150 - As hard as the IDSA tried 275 00:17:05,192 --> 00:17:08,904 to solidify treatment of Lyme disease 276 00:17:08,945 --> 00:17:11,198 in one way only, 277 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,660 there were cracks that emerged over time. 278 00:17:14,701 --> 00:17:17,162 And these cracks, if you will, 279 00:17:17,204 --> 00:17:20,999 were, you know, a doctor here, a doctor there, 280 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:22,166 who discovered 281 00:17:22,209 --> 00:17:25,212 following the guidelines didn't always work. 282 00:17:25,253 --> 00:17:27,756 [tense music] 283 00:17:27,798 --> 00:17:31,009 - I decided to return to Westchester County 284 00:17:31,051 --> 00:17:33,846 around 1985. 285 00:17:33,887 --> 00:17:36,598 Unbeknownst to me, Westchester at that time 286 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,477 was beginning to be a burgeoning epidemic. 287 00:17:40,519 --> 00:17:41,770 I knew virtually nothing 288 00:17:41,812 --> 00:17:42,938 about Lyme disease 289 00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:44,273 when I went into practice. 290 00:17:44,314 --> 00:17:46,733 I knew the name. That's about it. 291 00:17:46,775 --> 00:17:50,153 What I was observing was, like, incredible. 292 00:17:50,195 --> 00:17:52,030 People get sick. You treat them. 293 00:17:52,072 --> 00:17:53,448 They get better. 294 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:56,743 And then the same symptoms would start creeping back. 295 00:17:56,785 --> 00:18:00,289 How can a organism survive these antibiotics? 296 00:18:00,330 --> 00:18:02,165 [phone ringing] 297 00:18:02,207 --> 00:18:03,876 - These were really in the early days, 298 00:18:03,917 --> 00:18:06,253 when we were all looking for answers. 299 00:18:06,295 --> 00:18:07,546 I was having a lot of patients 300 00:18:07,588 --> 00:18:08,881 coming into my office 301 00:18:08,922 --> 00:18:10,257 with bull's-eye rashes, 302 00:18:10,299 --> 00:18:13,343 and about 80% would get better with standard antibiotics, 303 00:18:13,385 --> 00:18:15,804 but 20% would not. 304 00:18:15,846 --> 00:18:17,264 So I would look at the guidelines, 305 00:18:17,306 --> 00:18:19,516 but unfortunately, those guidelines were not 306 00:18:19,558 --> 00:18:21,560 specific enough to deal with the complexity 307 00:18:21,602 --> 00:18:22,603 of what I was seeing. 308 00:18:24,438 --> 00:18:26,648 - So when I first was learning about Lyme disease, 309 00:18:26,690 --> 00:18:28,734 I was really interested in an article 310 00:18:28,775 --> 00:18:30,152 that came out in 1989 311 00:18:30,194 --> 00:18:32,321 written by a neurologist, Andrew Pachner. 312 00:18:32,362 --> 00:18:35,324 His article was called "Lyme disease, the New 'Great Imitator.'" 313 00:18:35,365 --> 00:18:37,951 And in that article, he presented six cases 314 00:18:37,993 --> 00:18:39,369 that were fascinating. 315 00:18:39,411 --> 00:18:41,038 There was one case of an individual 316 00:18:41,079 --> 00:18:42,497 who had aggression outbursts. 317 00:18:42,539 --> 00:18:45,083 A young child, and when he was treated, the OCD went away. 318 00:18:45,125 --> 00:18:47,211 Here we have an infectious illness 319 00:18:47,252 --> 00:18:49,046 that's causing psychiatric problems. 320 00:18:49,087 --> 00:18:51,006 So why was Lyme disease 321 00:18:51,048 --> 00:18:52,424 called "the new great imitator?" 322 00:18:52,466 --> 00:18:55,135 Because the first great imitator was syphilis. 323 00:18:55,177 --> 00:18:57,804 Syphilis was caused by a spiral-shaped organism 324 00:18:57,846 --> 00:18:59,223 called a treponeme, 325 00:18:59,264 --> 00:19:02,935 and Lyme disease is caused by a spiral-shaped organism. 326 00:19:02,976 --> 00:19:06,438 Syphilis caused a huge variety of manifestations. 327 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,024 So it mimicked other diseases. 328 00:19:09,066 --> 00:19:11,151 - Lyme disease may be the great masquerader 329 00:19:11,193 --> 00:19:12,986 of the 1980s and '90s 330 00:19:13,028 --> 00:19:14,696 in that it can do almost anything. 331 00:19:17,157 --> 00:19:20,118 - The Lyme disease spirochete is shaped like a corkscrew, 332 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,830 so it drills through your joint cartilage. 333 00:19:24,957 --> 00:19:27,459 It quickly leaves the bloodstream. 334 00:19:27,501 --> 00:19:29,378 It goes to organs. 335 00:19:29,419 --> 00:19:32,047 It goes to the heart and the brain. 336 00:19:33,715 --> 00:19:36,051 - The Lyme disease bacteria, Borrelia burgdorferi, 337 00:19:36,093 --> 00:19:37,803 is definitely one of the smartest bacteria 338 00:19:37,845 --> 00:19:39,847 on the planet. 339 00:19:39,888 --> 00:19:42,182 This organism knows how to change forms. 340 00:19:43,642 --> 00:19:46,186 It knows how to hide. 341 00:19:46,228 --> 00:19:48,313 And the way it evades the immune system-- 342 00:19:48,355 --> 00:19:51,817 Lyme is more difficult to find on the blood tests. 343 00:19:51,859 --> 00:19:54,736 - And many of us clinicians were observing that. 344 00:19:54,778 --> 00:19:58,073 Patients that we strongly believed had Lyme disease, 345 00:19:58,115 --> 00:20:01,076 their standard tests for Lyme disease were negative. 346 00:20:01,118 --> 00:20:04,246 And as a result, it is easy for people to honestly, 347 00:20:04,288 --> 00:20:07,165 you know, confuse Lyme for other conditions. 348 00:20:07,207 --> 00:20:09,793 - The most common misdiagnoses that I see in my practice 349 00:20:09,835 --> 00:20:12,754 are people who've been diagnosed with chronic fatigue syndrome, 350 00:20:12,796 --> 00:20:16,049 fibromyalgia, rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, 351 00:20:16,091 --> 00:20:17,885 multiple sclerosis is a big one, 352 00:20:17,926 --> 00:20:20,220 patients who have dementia, Alzheimer's. 353 00:20:20,262 --> 00:20:22,973 Lyme can imitate all of these different diseases. 354 00:20:23,015 --> 00:20:26,268 So it's a very, very complex organism, 355 00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:28,478 and you really have to understand the biology 356 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,939 to understand how to treat these patients effectively. 357 00:20:32,858 --> 00:20:35,986 - We're now up to almost 500,000 cases 358 00:20:36,028 --> 00:20:38,739 of Lyme disease in America every year. 359 00:20:39,823 --> 00:20:41,950 There are more cases of Lyme disease 360 00:20:41,992 --> 00:20:44,953 than HIV and breast cancer combined. 361 00:20:46,121 --> 00:20:48,624 Of those 500,000, 362 00:20:48,665 --> 00:20:52,711 about 10% to 20% will stay sick 363 00:20:52,753 --> 00:20:55,214 for some period of time. 364 00:20:55,255 --> 00:20:57,508 We now believe that something on the order 365 00:20:57,549 --> 00:20:59,134 of 2 million people 366 00:20:59,176 --> 00:21:02,471 suffer the aftereffects of Lyme disease 367 00:21:02,513 --> 00:21:03,764 in the United States. 368 00:21:05,224 --> 00:21:08,685 So 50 years later, here we are, 369 00:21:08,727 --> 00:21:11,396 and we still haven't answered many 370 00:21:11,438 --> 00:21:14,858 of the most urgent and basic questions. 371 00:21:15,901 --> 00:21:19,571 "Chronic Lyme disease" is a rejected term 372 00:21:19,613 --> 00:21:22,199 in American medicine. 373 00:21:22,241 --> 00:21:25,452 The question is, why? 374 00:21:25,494 --> 00:21:28,497 [ambient nature sounds] 375 00:21:34,586 --> 00:21:38,131 - Home, sweet home away from home. 376 00:21:38,173 --> 00:21:42,511 And it is... 377 00:21:42,553 --> 00:21:46,348 time to do the ritual ironing. 378 00:21:59,820 --> 00:22:02,739 I feel a little guilty staying in this place. 379 00:22:02,781 --> 00:22:05,701 Usually, like, an Embassy Suites person. 380 00:22:08,745 --> 00:22:11,498 I literally just came from Carlisle, Pennsylvania, 381 00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:14,960 which is, like, an incredibly endemic area. 382 00:22:15,002 --> 00:22:18,463 And just to hear the stories there, 383 00:22:18,505 --> 00:22:21,383 with whole towns and neighborhoods being infected. 384 00:22:22,843 --> 00:22:27,556 The mere fact that I validate their disease, 385 00:22:27,598 --> 00:22:30,058 you know, and recognize it's not all in their head, 386 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:31,643 that they're not just fabricating everything-- 387 00:22:31,685 --> 00:22:34,146 I think that's so important for people 388 00:22:34,188 --> 00:22:36,398 to have maybe somebody like me, 389 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:39,818 who's in the medical profession, saying, 390 00:22:39,860 --> 00:22:42,237 "I hear you." You know, "I get it." 391 00:22:43,488 --> 00:22:46,617 - It is my honor to introduce tonight's keynote speaker, 392 00:22:46,658 --> 00:22:48,535 Dr. Neil Spector. 393 00:22:48,577 --> 00:22:50,037 Dr. Spector is one of the top 394 00:22:50,078 --> 00:22:52,623 breast cancer scientists in the country. 395 00:22:52,664 --> 00:22:55,375 The Lyme community is so incredibly fortunate 396 00:22:55,417 --> 00:22:57,794 to have one of the smartest minds in research, 397 00:22:57,836 --> 00:22:59,421 who is working towards better treatment 398 00:22:59,463 --> 00:23:02,007 and a cure for tick-borne illnesses. 399 00:23:05,511 --> 00:23:07,971 - Okay. Lyme disease. 400 00:23:08,013 --> 00:23:09,348 It's everywhere, right? 401 00:23:09,389 --> 00:23:11,308 This isn't just a problem in Connecticut, 402 00:23:11,350 --> 00:23:12,935 New York, New Jersey. 403 00:23:12,976 --> 00:23:14,728 It's all over the place. 404 00:23:14,770 --> 00:23:16,522 And it's only getting worse. 405 00:23:17,856 --> 00:23:20,108 We've got people at the prime of their lives 406 00:23:20,150 --> 00:23:22,402 who are taken out of society, 407 00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:26,865 and yet we have no clue what's going on with them. 408 00:23:28,242 --> 00:23:32,162 I'm coming up on ten years of a heart transplant recipient. 409 00:23:32,204 --> 00:23:35,749 That was an evening that I'll never forget, Friday evening. 410 00:23:35,791 --> 00:23:39,044 Surgeon walked into my room, and he said to me, 411 00:23:39,086 --> 00:23:41,672 "You'll be dead by Monday without a heart transplant." 412 00:23:41,713 --> 00:23:44,633 [hopeful music] 413 00:23:44,675 --> 00:23:47,094 You can do all the right things in the world 414 00:23:47,135 --> 00:23:49,012 and get bit by a tick, 415 00:23:49,054 --> 00:23:51,640 and it'll change your world forever. 416 00:23:52,891 --> 00:23:55,894 [birds singing] 417 00:23:59,565 --> 00:24:01,775 I'd just moved here to North Carolina. 418 00:24:01,817 --> 00:24:04,570 It was 1998. 419 00:24:04,611 --> 00:24:06,154 Just started a new job. 420 00:24:06,196 --> 00:24:08,490 Our daughter was a few weeks old. 421 00:24:10,951 --> 00:24:13,203 I had always been unbelievably healthy. 422 00:24:13,245 --> 00:24:14,705 I mean, I had ran marathons. 423 00:24:14,746 --> 00:24:18,208 I used to run ten miles a day, six days a week. 424 00:24:18,250 --> 00:24:20,961 So it was a very foreign experience for me 425 00:24:21,003 --> 00:24:24,047 to go from taking care of cancer patients 426 00:24:24,089 --> 00:24:27,759 to barely being able to walk ten yards 427 00:24:27,801 --> 00:24:29,553 without having to stop. 428 00:24:30,846 --> 00:24:33,599 We went through autoimmune diseases, lupus. 429 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,184 All the tests were negative. 430 00:24:35,225 --> 00:24:37,019 I completely fell through the cracks 431 00:24:37,060 --> 00:24:39,229 of the medical system. 432 00:24:39,271 --> 00:24:41,690 And it wasn't until four years into my illness 433 00:24:41,732 --> 00:24:43,901 that I developed arthritis. 434 00:24:43,942 --> 00:24:46,069 And so I started piecing it together and said, 435 00:24:46,111 --> 00:24:48,697 you know, "I'm convinced I have Lyme disease." 436 00:24:51,450 --> 00:24:53,869 I got a call in my office, 437 00:24:53,911 --> 00:24:56,788 and the cardiologist said to me, 438 00:24:56,830 --> 00:24:58,790 "Is there a chair nearby?" 439 00:25:00,751 --> 00:25:03,253 You know, "You've got a severely damaged heart. 440 00:25:03,295 --> 00:25:05,923 You need to be evaluated for a heart transplant." 441 00:25:07,382 --> 00:25:09,468 I'm not sure how I drove home. 442 00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:12,471 Just completely in tears, 443 00:25:12,513 --> 00:25:14,306 thinking, "This is it." 444 00:25:14,348 --> 00:25:17,809 Not gonna live beyond a certain age. 445 00:25:17,851 --> 00:25:19,937 Never gonna see my daughter grow older. 446 00:25:19,978 --> 00:25:22,689 I'm not gonna see any of the milestones. 447 00:25:24,316 --> 00:25:27,194 And then I just realized, you know, 448 00:25:27,236 --> 00:25:30,572 not gonna just roll over and let that be the answer. 449 00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:33,659 I'm gonna do whatever it takes. 450 00:25:35,786 --> 00:25:37,746 "Few minutes after telephone call 451 00:25:37,788 --> 00:25:40,958 that 'your new heart has been found.'" 452 00:25:42,793 --> 00:25:45,671 Yep. Giving the old V sign. 453 00:25:45,712 --> 00:25:47,965 - Moment of victory. 454 00:25:48,006 --> 00:25:50,217 [tense music] 455 00:25:50,259 --> 00:25:51,301 ♪ ♪ 456 00:25:51,343 --> 00:25:53,428 But then you sit with all those other feelings 457 00:25:53,470 --> 00:25:56,974 of the person who lost their life. 458 00:25:57,015 --> 00:25:59,226 That's a whole other side of things too, 459 00:25:59,268 --> 00:26:04,731 the sitting with "What is their family going through?" 460 00:26:04,773 --> 00:26:07,943 Those were hard emotions to sort out. 461 00:26:07,985 --> 00:26:10,487 - They were, yeah. They're still difficult. 462 00:26:10,529 --> 00:26:12,573 - They are still difficult. 463 00:26:15,826 --> 00:26:18,161 - I think about that a lot. 464 00:26:18,203 --> 00:26:20,789 You know, why me? 465 00:26:20,831 --> 00:26:22,541 Sometimes you feel the pressure 466 00:26:22,583 --> 00:26:23,917 of having to live your life 467 00:26:23,959 --> 00:26:26,211 in an extraordinary way for those people 468 00:26:26,253 --> 00:26:29,464 who unfortunately didn't have the opportunity. 469 00:26:31,091 --> 00:26:33,927 You know, with all these unknowns, there is one known, 470 00:26:33,969 --> 00:26:36,096 and that's that people are falling through the cracks 471 00:26:36,138 --> 00:26:37,556 of the medical system. 472 00:26:37,598 --> 00:26:39,892 The burden should not be on people who are sick 473 00:26:39,933 --> 00:26:41,935 to prove that they're sick. 474 00:26:41,977 --> 00:26:46,356 It should be on us, as medical professionals, 475 00:26:46,398 --> 00:26:50,235 to better understand what's going on and to help them. 476 00:26:55,824 --> 00:26:58,827 [TV drones in background] 477 00:27:11,215 --> 00:27:14,343 - It was a very hard time for all of us. 478 00:27:14,384 --> 00:27:17,012 We felt we were losing Julia. 479 00:27:18,263 --> 00:27:21,517 I had nobody to take care of Julia. 480 00:27:21,558 --> 00:27:24,478 [soft dramatic music] 481 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,731 So me and my wife had to make a decision. 482 00:27:27,773 --> 00:27:30,192 One of us had to stay home. 483 00:27:31,151 --> 00:27:34,613 - My dad decided that he wasn't gonna go back to work. 484 00:27:34,655 --> 00:27:36,990 And I remember it breaking my heart, 485 00:27:37,032 --> 00:27:39,326 because I was ruining everybody's life, 486 00:27:39,368 --> 00:27:43,497 and I couldn't control it, couldn't do anything about it. 487 00:27:43,539 --> 00:27:47,543 - We were struggling. I was without salary. 488 00:27:47,584 --> 00:27:51,046 It felt like an unwinnable battle. 489 00:27:51,088 --> 00:27:55,175 And then something really extraordinary happened. 490 00:27:55,217 --> 00:27:57,886 ♪ ♪ 491 00:27:57,928 --> 00:28:00,889 - This is the plane that is bringing Pope Francis 492 00:28:00,931 --> 00:28:03,976 here to New York City for the very first time. 493 00:28:04,017 --> 00:28:05,894 Tremendous sense of excitement. 494 00:28:05,936 --> 00:28:07,604 And here he is. 495 00:28:07,646 --> 00:28:09,481 - Holy Father! 496 00:28:09,523 --> 00:28:13,151 - He steps out of the plane, and it's almost like he makes, 497 00:28:13,193 --> 00:28:15,487 like, a beeline straight to me. 498 00:28:15,529 --> 00:28:17,698 - Holy Father. 499 00:28:17,739 --> 00:28:19,491 - And, Julia, how come you're in the wheelchair? 500 00:28:19,533 --> 00:28:21,910 I understand you're fighting a tough fight, right? 501 00:28:21,952 --> 00:28:24,872 - Well, I've been undiagnosed for four months, 502 00:28:24,913 --> 00:28:28,000 and I have a clinical diagnosis of Lyme disease. 503 00:28:28,041 --> 00:28:29,710 - And why did you come here today? 504 00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:32,212 - I came here 'cause I wanted to meet the pope, 505 00:28:32,254 --> 00:28:34,548 'cause I believe in a miracle. 506 00:28:34,590 --> 00:28:37,342 - You believe in a miracle. 507 00:28:37,384 --> 00:28:39,845 - She just garnered a lot of media attention. 508 00:28:39,887 --> 00:28:42,347 We started getting phone calls from every network. 509 00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:43,765 - This was the strangest story. 510 00:28:43,807 --> 00:28:46,101 A vibrant, healthy 12-year-old girl. 511 00:28:46,143 --> 00:28:47,895 - You know, suddenly, in, like, a second, 512 00:28:47,936 --> 00:28:49,188 my life just changed. 513 00:28:49,229 --> 00:28:50,856 - The mothers at Julia's school, 514 00:28:50,898 --> 00:28:52,608 they started this GoFundMe page 515 00:28:52,649 --> 00:28:54,568 that was very successful. 516 00:28:54,610 --> 00:28:56,612 - We started getting bombarded with letters 517 00:28:56,653 --> 00:28:58,614 from all different people who had Lyme disease 518 00:28:58,655 --> 00:29:00,407 around the world. 519 00:29:00,449 --> 00:29:02,576 - We went from being alone 520 00:29:02,618 --> 00:29:04,995 to being, like, exposed. 521 00:29:05,037 --> 00:29:07,122 And, you know, we didn't realize it then, 522 00:29:07,164 --> 00:29:10,542 but we were in the middle of a tremendous controversy. 523 00:29:10,584 --> 00:29:12,669 - Convinced that Julia had chronic Lyme, 524 00:29:12,711 --> 00:29:14,838 her father decided to fight back, 525 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,673 only to find himself right in the middle 526 00:29:16,715 --> 00:29:18,926 of a mind-boggling medical war. 527 00:29:18,967 --> 00:29:20,802 - There's a lot of misinformation out there 528 00:29:20,844 --> 00:29:22,095 about Lyme disease. 529 00:29:22,137 --> 00:29:23,805 - Wormser was a lead author 530 00:29:23,847 --> 00:29:27,100 of Lyme treatment guidelines followed by the CDC. 531 00:29:27,142 --> 00:29:28,852 Recently, he equated some 532 00:29:28,894 --> 00:29:31,688 of the chronic Lyme conversation to fake news. 533 00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:33,273 He never treated Julia, 534 00:29:33,315 --> 00:29:36,235 but he influenced many who did. 535 00:29:36,276 --> 00:29:39,029 - I'll never forget the day we got the phone call. 536 00:29:39,071 --> 00:29:42,074 I went outside to have a cigarette, 537 00:29:42,115 --> 00:29:44,117 and my phone rang. 538 00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,371 And I pick up the phone, and it's somebody from the CDC. 539 00:31:08,994 --> 00:31:10,871 Not too long after that, 540 00:31:10,913 --> 00:31:13,790 Julia was interviewed by Fox 5, 541 00:31:13,832 --> 00:31:16,585 and I excitedly shared this information 542 00:31:16,627 --> 00:31:18,504 with a list of my contacts. 543 00:31:18,545 --> 00:31:23,425 Somehow, my email was sent to Dr. Phillip Baker. 544 00:31:23,467 --> 00:31:26,261 Here's another man who has never met us. 545 00:31:26,303 --> 00:31:27,930 He has never had the opportunity 546 00:31:27,971 --> 00:31:30,307 to look at Julia's medical records. 547 00:31:30,349 --> 00:31:34,102 And he writes, "Since the results of laboratory tests 548 00:31:34,144 --> 00:31:36,772 "for the diagnosis of Lyme disease were negative, 549 00:31:36,813 --> 00:31:41,026 "were other possibilities considered to explain such symptoms? 550 00:31:41,068 --> 00:31:44,112 "If not, wasn't this child denied the opportunity 551 00:31:44,154 --> 00:31:46,406 "to get the medical treatment she deserved 552 00:31:46,448 --> 00:31:50,118 "by obsessively focusing on Lyme disease? 553 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,371 "Perhaps this is the most tragic outcome 554 00:31:52,412 --> 00:31:54,414 of this sad story." 555 00:31:54,456 --> 00:31:58,627 Julia has been tested for everything under the Sun, 556 00:31:58,669 --> 00:32:00,921 several times. 557 00:32:00,963 --> 00:32:03,340 I guess they have their own motives 558 00:32:03,382 --> 00:32:05,843 for being interested in Julia's story. 559 00:32:05,884 --> 00:32:09,471 But I can't imagine any medical professional 560 00:32:09,513 --> 00:32:13,350 who holds a high position in the CDC calling a patient 561 00:32:13,392 --> 00:32:17,187 to deter them from treatment of any disease. 562 00:32:17,229 --> 00:32:19,523 How does that make sense? 563 00:32:19,565 --> 00:32:22,568 [ambient nature sounds] 564 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,741 - Investigate the CDC! Investigate Lyme disease! 565 00:32:29,783 --> 00:32:35,539 Investigate the CDC! Investigate Lyme disease! 566 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,961 - Doctors need to realize it's everywhere. 567 00:32:41,003 --> 00:32:43,881 I mean, birds fly, animals roam, 568 00:32:43,922 --> 00:32:46,425 people travel and pack their bags 569 00:32:46,466 --> 00:32:49,428 with clothing that they've been out in the woods with. 570 00:32:49,469 --> 00:32:50,804 - Every doctor I've been to 571 00:32:50,846 --> 00:32:53,390 is saying, like, "We don't treat Lyme," or... 572 00:32:53,432 --> 00:32:54,892 - Yeah. - "It's all in your head…" 573 00:32:54,933 --> 00:32:56,310 - Yeah. - Or they'll see the strands. 574 00:32:56,351 --> 00:32:58,437 "Oh, is not-- is not the CDC positive?" 575 00:32:58,478 --> 00:33:00,939 - You see, that's--that's-- - "So you're fine." 576 00:33:00,981 --> 00:33:04,735 - Investigate the CDC! Investigate Lyme disease! 577 00:33:06,612 --> 00:33:10,073 - We understand that patients who don't feel well 578 00:33:10,115 --> 00:33:12,326 are desperate and seeking answers. 579 00:33:12,367 --> 00:33:15,287 But we're concerned that some of them 580 00:33:15,329 --> 00:33:18,040 fall into a trap of being treated for things 581 00:33:18,081 --> 00:33:21,168 that ultimately are not helping them. 582 00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:23,837 [tense music] 583 00:33:23,879 --> 00:33:26,423 - There are very powerful forces standing in the way 584 00:33:26,465 --> 00:33:29,635 of progressive attitudes towards Lyme, 585 00:33:29,676 --> 00:33:33,597 most notably Centers for Disease Control 586 00:33:33,639 --> 00:33:37,976 because they are the leader not just for this country 587 00:33:38,018 --> 00:33:40,479 but for all of the countries in the world. 588 00:33:40,521 --> 00:33:44,525 And their intransigence has created just-- 589 00:33:44,566 --> 00:33:46,485 just a world of problems. 590 00:33:46,527 --> 00:33:48,028 [music building] 591 00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:49,279 In the early '90s, 592 00:33:49,321 --> 00:33:53,200 I was actually invited out to CDC Fort Collins. 593 00:33:53,242 --> 00:33:55,160 You know, I gave a talk there. 594 00:33:55,202 --> 00:33:57,913 And afterwards, we all went out to ski. 595 00:33:59,081 --> 00:34:01,166 I've had very good relations with many of the folks 596 00:34:01,208 --> 00:34:03,210 at CDC over many years. 597 00:34:03,252 --> 00:34:04,878 It's not the people. 598 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,797 It's the policies. 599 00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:11,134 And the question is, who sets CDC policies, and why? 600 00:34:11,176 --> 00:34:17,266 ♪ ♪ 601 00:34:19,518 --> 00:34:23,438 - One of my major stories for the "Poughkeepsie Journal" 602 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,650 was when I obtained a sheaf of emails, 603 00:34:27,693 --> 00:34:30,737 2,500 pages, actually. 604 00:34:32,072 --> 00:34:36,827 These emails were between the major players in Lyme disease 605 00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:41,956 as well as officials in the CDC and NIH. 606 00:34:41,998 --> 00:34:48,045 The emails belied a sort of "us against them" mentality. 607 00:34:48,088 --> 00:34:50,841 In one email, this researcher from Yale 608 00:34:50,882 --> 00:34:53,677 by the name of Durland Fish was commenting 609 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,263 how Lyme disease groups were organizing. 610 00:34:56,304 --> 00:34:58,932 They were holding protests. 611 00:34:58,974 --> 00:35:02,561 What he said was, "This battle cannot be won 612 00:35:02,603 --> 00:35:04,354 "on a scientific front. 613 00:35:04,396 --> 00:35:08,108 "We need to mount a sociopolitical offensive. 614 00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:10,736 "But we are outnumbered and outgunned. 615 00:35:10,777 --> 00:35:14,323 We need reinforcements from outside our field." 616 00:35:18,076 --> 00:35:21,413 There was another very telling email. 617 00:35:21,455 --> 00:35:25,542 In 2007, Phil Baker was leaving 618 00:35:25,584 --> 00:35:28,212 the National Institutes of Health. 619 00:35:28,253 --> 00:35:32,341 He was the person who decided on grants 620 00:35:32,382 --> 00:35:34,927 for Lyme disease research. 621 00:35:34,968 --> 00:35:38,180 And what he said was, "I'll certainly miss 622 00:35:38,222 --> 00:35:40,974 "all of you people-- the scientists-- 623 00:35:41,016 --> 00:35:44,311 but not the Lyme loonies." 624 00:35:47,189 --> 00:35:49,816 When I asked him for a comment, 625 00:35:49,858 --> 00:35:54,488 he said, "That might be too kind a description." 626 00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:00,953 And one more, from an official at the National Institutes of Health: 627 00:36:00,994 --> 00:36:03,997 "What we have here is a war, 628 00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:08,627 "an insurgency against evidence-based medicine. 629 00:36:08,669 --> 00:36:11,296 It's time to start shooting back." 630 00:36:14,883 --> 00:36:17,886 [birds singing] 631 00:36:27,437 --> 00:36:29,356 - It's such a bad article, the computer doesn't even 632 00:36:29,398 --> 00:36:31,108 want to open it up. 633 00:36:32,734 --> 00:36:34,111 [laughs] 634 00:36:34,152 --> 00:36:35,779 That happens sometimes. 635 00:36:37,614 --> 00:36:40,784 "Antiscience." Huh. 636 00:36:41,785 --> 00:36:44,538 Who, like, publishes this stuff? 637 00:36:44,580 --> 00:36:47,541 [inquisitive music] 638 00:36:47,583 --> 00:36:54,590 ♪ ♪ 639 00:36:57,426 --> 00:37:01,597 So one of the problems with these antiscience articles-- 640 00:37:01,638 --> 00:37:04,141 they sort of make these broad claims. 641 00:37:04,183 --> 00:37:06,435 And then they make it, like, people like me, 642 00:37:06,476 --> 00:37:10,522 who would question the testing, the treatment, 643 00:37:10,564 --> 00:37:14,359 and try to lump me into people who believe, you know, 644 00:37:14,401 --> 00:37:17,487 that the Moon doesn't exist and the world is flat. 645 00:37:17,529 --> 00:37:19,406 And they're deflecting the real issues. 646 00:37:22,409 --> 00:37:25,829 What kind of a disease is it that you're ostracized 647 00:37:25,871 --> 00:37:28,790 by the very community that should be helping you? 648 00:37:28,832 --> 00:37:30,876 I don't think you have to have an MD to think 649 00:37:30,918 --> 00:37:32,753 there's something wrong here. 650 00:37:32,794 --> 00:37:35,339 What is it that these people have in common? 651 00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:36,715 And you could either say they all have in common 652 00:37:36,757 --> 00:37:38,133 that they're crazy, 653 00:37:38,175 --> 00:37:40,385 or you could say there's, like, something out there 654 00:37:40,427 --> 00:37:41,803 that's causing this. 655 00:37:41,845 --> 00:37:45,098 [bell tolling] 656 00:37:45,140 --> 00:37:47,309 This may be some of the first Lyme science 657 00:37:47,351 --> 00:37:48,644 being done on this campus. 658 00:37:48,685 --> 00:37:50,604 And in fact, some of these projects 659 00:37:50,646 --> 00:37:53,023 are really the first to be done in this country. 660 00:37:54,191 --> 00:37:56,360 These are ideas that I've been working on 661 00:37:56,401 --> 00:37:57,861 and my colleagues have been working on 662 00:37:57,903 --> 00:38:00,656 in the cancer field for, you know, 20-plus years, 663 00:38:00,697 --> 00:38:04,535 and now we're finally gonna be applying this to Lyme disease. 664 00:38:14,795 --> 00:38:17,756 What if I told you that we could image 665 00:38:17,798 --> 00:38:19,424 Lyme disease in your body? 666 00:38:19,466 --> 00:38:21,635 [machine whirring] 667 00:38:21,677 --> 00:38:24,638 [inquisitive music] 668 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,140 ♪ ♪ 669 00:38:27,182 --> 00:38:29,351 Can you imagine going to a doctor and say, 670 00:38:29,393 --> 00:38:31,395 "Wow, you've got pain in your left knee. 671 00:38:31,436 --> 00:38:33,188 "That's kind of interesting, because this scan 672 00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:36,191 is lighting up for Borrelia in your left knee." 673 00:38:37,651 --> 00:38:42,072 So we could actually show, on a noninvasive scan, 674 00:38:42,114 --> 00:38:44,533 that you've got the bugs in your body, 675 00:38:44,575 --> 00:38:47,202 and you've got 'em where your symptoms are. 676 00:38:48,328 --> 00:38:50,539 We don't have anything like this. 677 00:38:50,581 --> 00:38:52,332 It's all guesswork. 678 00:38:52,374 --> 00:38:54,168 I mean, just like it is for cancer, 679 00:38:54,209 --> 00:38:57,087 this would be revolutionary 680 00:38:57,129 --> 00:38:59,590 in the way we diagnose 681 00:38:59,631 --> 00:39:01,717 and then the way we treat. 682 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,514 Since my transplant, I realized that this field 683 00:39:07,556 --> 00:39:10,517 is sorely lacking, bad diagnostics. 684 00:39:10,559 --> 00:39:13,145 We need better therapies. All of you know that. 685 00:39:13,187 --> 00:39:17,024 What I'm saying is that we can and we will do better. 686 00:39:17,065 --> 00:39:18,817 I'm gonna make you that promise right here. 687 00:39:22,070 --> 00:39:26,116 The timeline that I promised to deliver is three years. 688 00:39:26,158 --> 00:39:27,618 I mean, that's, like, unheard of. 689 00:39:27,659 --> 00:39:29,203 But that's the pressure I'm putting 690 00:39:29,244 --> 00:39:31,496 on myself and everyone else. 691 00:39:31,538 --> 00:39:33,624 That's, like, a heavy burden, when I know, like, 692 00:39:33,665 --> 00:39:36,376 what the desperation is, when people are like, 693 00:39:36,418 --> 00:39:39,671 "Well, Neil, you're it. You got to deliver for us." 694 00:39:39,713 --> 00:39:42,716 So, um, 695 00:39:42,758 --> 00:39:45,135 I'm gonna deliver for people. 696 00:39:56,813 --> 00:40:01,235 - After the pope, Julia was taking a turn for the worse. 697 00:40:02,694 --> 00:40:04,404 I knew that I had to find somebody 698 00:40:04,446 --> 00:40:07,324 that was willing to treat Julia for Lyme disease. 699 00:40:08,909 --> 00:40:10,911 And I started to realize that there's such a thing 700 00:40:10,953 --> 00:40:12,871 called Lyme-literate doctors. 701 00:40:15,207 --> 00:40:17,334 Everyone I would call would have a waiting list 702 00:40:17,376 --> 00:40:19,211 of six to eight months. 703 00:40:20,671 --> 00:40:22,548 You know, all these doctors are not covered 704 00:40:22,589 --> 00:40:24,132 by insurance companies. 705 00:40:26,885 --> 00:40:29,221 It all seemed a little sketchy. 706 00:40:36,061 --> 00:40:37,354 - Over here. 707 00:40:39,398 --> 00:40:41,191 Take a nice, deep breath. 708 00:40:41,233 --> 00:40:42,985 Good. 709 00:40:43,026 --> 00:40:44,403 Let me see with your reflexes. 710 00:40:47,739 --> 00:40:49,867 Yeah, they're cold. 711 00:40:49,908 --> 00:40:51,785 Now, if you start to feel really, really dizzy 712 00:40:51,827 --> 00:40:53,203 with this, I will sit you down. 713 00:40:53,245 --> 00:40:56,248 I just want to see how fast your heart rate starts to go up. 714 00:40:56,290 --> 00:40:57,583 - Okay, go ahead. - All right. 715 00:40:59,042 --> 00:41:00,335 Okay. 716 00:41:00,377 --> 00:41:03,255 I'll try and do this for at least, if you can, just for one minute, 717 00:41:03,297 --> 00:41:05,382 so I can get a sense what the pulse rate's running. 718 00:41:05,424 --> 00:41:07,384 - [inaudible] - Is it already difficult? 719 00:41:07,426 --> 00:41:08,594 - Yeah, yeah. Down, down, down, down. 720 00:41:08,635 --> 00:41:10,345 - If you have to sit down, it's okay. 721 00:41:10,387 --> 00:41:11,805 - [inaudible] - Dad, Dad, Dad. 722 00:41:11,847 --> 00:41:13,182 Just down. - [inaudible] 723 00:41:13,223 --> 00:41:14,224 - Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. - Down. Down. 724 00:41:14,266 --> 00:41:15,684 - Go down. 725 00:41:18,353 --> 00:41:19,521 - Let me just check the pulse now. 726 00:41:20,898 --> 00:41:22,524 [tense music] 727 00:41:22,566 --> 00:41:25,068 I've never seen anyone have a heart rate of 250. 728 00:41:25,110 --> 00:41:27,779 - Mm-hmm. - That's--that's off the wall. 729 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,867 When I was looking for answers for Lyme patients, 730 00:41:31,909 --> 00:41:33,785 I discovered that there were multiple reasons 731 00:41:33,827 --> 00:41:35,037 why people stayed ill. 732 00:41:35,078 --> 00:41:36,914 It was like going to a doctor's office 733 00:41:36,955 --> 00:41:40,000 with 16 nails in your foot, saying you have foot pain. 734 00:41:40,042 --> 00:41:41,502 And the doctor pulls out one nail 735 00:41:41,543 --> 00:41:42,920 and says, "Come back in a month." 736 00:41:42,961 --> 00:41:44,630 You still have 15 nails in your foot. 737 00:41:44,671 --> 00:41:45,881 You're gonna have pain. 738 00:41:45,923 --> 00:41:48,383 Some of it is that the Lyme organism is persisting, 739 00:41:48,425 --> 00:41:50,761 but part of it is also other infections. 740 00:41:50,802 --> 00:41:52,721 Right now, there are at least 18 different 741 00:41:52,763 --> 00:41:54,848 tick-borne diseases that can be transmitted 742 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:56,642 by the bite of a tick. 743 00:42:00,521 --> 00:42:02,523 You know, the most common coinfections that we see 744 00:42:02,564 --> 00:42:05,776 that make people ill is Lyme, babesia, and bartonella. Right? 745 00:42:05,817 --> 00:42:07,528 And when you put them all together, 746 00:42:07,569 --> 00:42:09,947 the people get much, much sicker. 747 00:42:09,988 --> 00:42:12,157 - The first appointment with Dr. Horowitz, 748 00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:14,952 when I realized that they didn't accept insurance, 749 00:42:14,993 --> 00:42:16,286 you know, that was a red flag. 750 00:42:16,328 --> 00:42:20,040 I realize now that it's not a red flag. 751 00:42:20,082 --> 00:42:22,417 That first visit, I think it was anywhere 752 00:42:22,459 --> 00:42:24,628 between three and four hours. 753 00:42:24,670 --> 00:42:29,049 And so much was revealed to me about Julia's situation. 754 00:42:30,759 --> 00:42:32,052 - I was in insurance companies. 755 00:42:32,094 --> 00:42:34,429 I accepted Medicare for at least 25 years. 756 00:42:34,471 --> 00:42:35,889 There just got to be a point 757 00:42:35,931 --> 00:42:38,308 when the insurance companies dropped me. 758 00:42:38,350 --> 00:42:40,018 There was just no way to continue in that way, 759 00:42:40,060 --> 00:42:41,520 and I had to go outside the system. 760 00:42:41,562 --> 00:42:44,064 [tense music] 761 00:42:44,106 --> 00:42:47,609 I lost about 2,000 patients within a period of six months 762 00:42:47,651 --> 00:42:48,944 because I was spending too much 763 00:42:48,986 --> 00:42:50,779 of the insurance company's money 764 00:42:50,821 --> 00:42:53,323 for a disease that didn't exist. 765 00:42:53,365 --> 00:42:56,118 It was like, hear no evil, see no evil. 766 00:42:56,159 --> 00:42:58,579 They just didn't want to know about it. 767 00:42:58,620 --> 00:43:05,586 ♪ ♪ 768 00:43:05,627 --> 00:43:10,174 - Lyme disease is the first disease of epidemic proportion 769 00:43:10,215 --> 00:43:12,593 that came to light hand in hand 770 00:43:12,634 --> 00:43:15,470 with the development of managed care. 771 00:43:15,512 --> 00:43:18,223 - When HMO medicine started taking effect 772 00:43:18,265 --> 00:43:20,350 in the 1980s and '90s, 773 00:43:20,392 --> 00:43:21,977 it was easy to practice medicine 774 00:43:22,019 --> 00:43:24,062 for people that had straight diseases 775 00:43:24,104 --> 00:43:26,481 like high blood pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes. 776 00:43:26,523 --> 00:43:28,400 I could get them in and out in 10 to 15 minutes. 777 00:43:28,442 --> 00:43:29,484 That was simple. 778 00:43:29,526 --> 00:43:32,821 The problem with Lyme disease is, they have up to 38 different symptoms. 779 00:43:32,863 --> 00:43:36,325 You can't get that done in 12 to 15 minutes. 780 00:43:36,366 --> 00:43:39,077 - So here's a disease that's affecting a lot of people, 781 00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:42,789 can be costly, and there's been a very active role 782 00:43:42,831 --> 00:43:47,753 of the insurers, their agents, to define 783 00:43:47,794 --> 00:43:52,007 not Lyme disease away but chronic Lyme disease away. 784 00:43:52,049 --> 00:43:54,676 [static buzzes] 785 00:43:54,718 --> 00:43:57,846 I want to introduce everybody. This is Vicki Logan. 786 00:43:57,888 --> 00:44:01,517 And it is June 22, 2001. 787 00:44:01,558 --> 00:44:06,230 You are a former pediatric ICU nurse, correct? 788 00:44:06,271 --> 00:44:08,565 So you were a highly skilled professional. 789 00:44:10,025 --> 00:44:11,485 - And highly educated. 790 00:44:11,527 --> 00:44:13,695 [tense music] 791 00:44:13,737 --> 00:44:16,240 Vicki Logan was a fairly early patient that I saw, 792 00:44:16,281 --> 00:44:18,534 around '88 or '89. 793 00:44:18,575 --> 00:44:22,412 She presented a mystery that hadn't been solved. 794 00:44:22,454 --> 00:44:25,040 When she came to me, I studied her very carefully for a year, 795 00:44:25,082 --> 00:44:26,625 did all kinds of testing, 796 00:44:26,667 --> 00:44:28,168 everything that I knew how to do, 797 00:44:28,210 --> 00:44:29,461 not just for Lyme disease but for other, 798 00:44:29,503 --> 00:44:32,297 you know, conditions. 799 00:44:32,339 --> 00:44:35,551 I knew that she had grown up in Westchester County, 800 00:44:35,592 --> 00:44:38,178 and I knew that it was a very tick-infested area. 801 00:44:38,220 --> 00:44:40,222 Realizing that she was sick and getting worse, 802 00:44:40,264 --> 00:44:42,766 I felt that it was appropriate to treat her 803 00:44:42,808 --> 00:44:44,893 for the possibility that she might have Lyme. 804 00:44:44,935 --> 00:44:46,436 ♪ ♪ 805 00:44:46,478 --> 00:44:50,190 About a year later, she begged me for a spinal tap. 806 00:44:50,232 --> 00:44:52,234 I put a couple of ccs of spinal fluid 807 00:44:52,276 --> 00:44:56,280 in a special culture and shipped it off to the CDC. 808 00:44:57,698 --> 00:45:00,492 Several weeks later, I got an excited telephone call 809 00:45:00,534 --> 00:45:03,328 from David Dennis from CDC Fort Collins 810 00:45:03,370 --> 00:45:05,706 to let me know that spirochetes 811 00:45:05,747 --> 00:45:07,916 were growing out of her spinal fluid. 812 00:45:09,376 --> 00:45:11,128 He was quite excited about it 813 00:45:11,170 --> 00:45:13,380 and actually rather incredulous, 814 00:45:13,422 --> 00:45:16,216 because he knew that she had already been treated 815 00:45:16,258 --> 00:45:18,468 with a regimen that was supposed 816 00:45:18,510 --> 00:45:20,554 to eradicate Lyme disease. 817 00:45:22,139 --> 00:45:24,474 And at that point, then I really knew what she had. 818 00:45:24,516 --> 00:45:28,979 And I treated you for 109 continuous days, 819 00:45:29,021 --> 00:45:31,607 and you progressively improved. 820 00:45:32,399 --> 00:45:34,193 But at a certain point, 821 00:45:34,234 --> 00:45:37,446 policies changed at Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield 822 00:45:37,487 --> 00:45:40,616 that made it almost impossible for people like Vicki 823 00:45:40,657 --> 00:45:42,910 to receive the treatment that she needed. 824 00:45:44,077 --> 00:45:45,704 There would be no reimbursement for-- 825 00:45:45,746 --> 00:45:47,372 for that kind of care. 826 00:45:50,083 --> 00:45:51,627 In the late 1990s, 827 00:45:51,668 --> 00:45:56,256 Vicki and about a dozen other patients filed a lawsuit 828 00:45:56,298 --> 00:45:58,759 against Empire Blue Cross Blue Shield. 829 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,887 The litigating attorney was a gentleman named Ira Maurer. 830 00:46:01,929 --> 00:46:04,223 And he brought suit against Empire 831 00:46:04,264 --> 00:46:06,642 on behalf of these patients. 832 00:46:06,683 --> 00:46:09,228 - When you've got lots of disagreement 833 00:46:09,269 --> 00:46:11,730 as to what is appropriate diagnosis 834 00:46:11,772 --> 00:46:13,357 and treatment of Lyme disease, 835 00:46:13,398 --> 00:46:15,776 it makes it very hard for a Lyme disease patient 836 00:46:15,817 --> 00:46:19,821 and a lawyer like myself to go in there and challenge 837 00:46:19,863 --> 00:46:22,574 when an insurance company refuses to pay 838 00:46:22,616 --> 00:46:26,036 for very expensive intravenous antibiotic treatment. 839 00:46:27,788 --> 00:46:30,040 - One of the most revealing 840 00:46:30,082 --> 00:46:33,335 documents in the Lyme annals 841 00:46:33,377 --> 00:46:36,797 emerged from the case of Vicki Logan. 842 00:46:36,839 --> 00:46:40,175 One of the witnesses that came on to give testimony 843 00:46:40,217 --> 00:46:41,593 was Richard Sanchez, 844 00:46:41,635 --> 00:46:44,179 who worked for the insurance company. 845 00:46:44,221 --> 00:46:47,975 He really detailed, in a disturbing way, 846 00:46:48,016 --> 00:46:51,019 the way in which insurance companies 847 00:46:51,061 --> 00:46:55,440 red-flagged Lyme disease and put up roadblocks. 848 00:46:57,192 --> 00:46:59,152 - They raised the bar, made it harder for people 849 00:46:59,194 --> 00:47:02,573 to qualify for the expensive IV treatment, 850 00:47:02,614 --> 00:47:04,491 knowing that there were some people 851 00:47:04,533 --> 00:47:08,829 who still would benefit from it and wouldn't qualify. 852 00:47:08,871 --> 00:47:13,250 And he considered those people to be the "low-hanging fruit," 853 00:47:13,292 --> 00:47:16,920 the easy money to make for the insurance company. 854 00:47:16,962 --> 00:47:20,924 - In the meantime, some of the same people who created 855 00:47:20,966 --> 00:47:24,094 the Infectious Diseases Society of America guidelines 856 00:47:24,136 --> 00:47:26,597 were consulting with the insurers 857 00:47:26,638 --> 00:47:30,058 on their internal Lyme disease guidelines policy. 858 00:47:31,894 --> 00:47:34,313 - So they created the guidelines on the one hand, 859 00:47:34,354 --> 00:47:36,398 and then on the other hand, they're getting, you know, 860 00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,069 $600 an hour in the 1990s to deny these cases. 861 00:47:42,070 --> 00:47:47,576 Leonard Sigal said his fee in 1996 was $560 an hour, 862 00:47:47,618 --> 00:47:49,870 and he even quipped that it was quite helpful 863 00:47:49,912 --> 00:47:52,831 in meeting college tuition for his kids. 864 00:47:52,873 --> 00:47:56,460 - There's good proof that one can do significant damage 865 00:47:56,502 --> 00:48:00,214 to patients by putting them on long-term intravenous antibiotics. 866 00:48:00,255 --> 00:48:02,508 - If one side in this controversy 867 00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:05,719 writes the protocol and says no one may be treated 868 00:48:05,761 --> 00:48:08,680 beyond 28 days with intravenous antibiotics, 869 00:48:08,722 --> 00:48:11,475 that's going to be disastrous for patients with Lyme disease. 870 00:48:13,852 --> 00:48:18,273 - There was a move by some of the insiders 871 00:48:18,315 --> 00:48:22,069 of the Infectious Diseases Society to issue guidelines. 872 00:48:23,111 --> 00:48:25,531 I was part of the original guidelines. 873 00:48:25,572 --> 00:48:27,699 I tried to advise that we weren't ready 874 00:48:27,741 --> 00:48:29,451 to issue guidelines about long-term disease. 875 00:48:29,493 --> 00:48:31,161 We didn't have the information. 876 00:48:31,203 --> 00:48:34,957 You have to be really careful about issuing guidelines, 877 00:48:34,998 --> 00:48:36,375 'cause they get abused. 878 00:48:37,835 --> 00:48:39,711 The overseers said, "We need to put out 879 00:48:39,753 --> 00:48:41,171 these Lyme disease guidelines." 880 00:48:41,213 --> 00:48:43,131 And there was some urgency to do something. 881 00:48:43,173 --> 00:48:44,925 I mean, there's Lyme disease out there. 882 00:48:46,260 --> 00:48:47,719 I said, "Well, we're not ready, 883 00:48:47,761 --> 00:48:50,389 but I could provide the language." 884 00:48:50,430 --> 00:48:54,101 "There are patients who have ongoing symptoms 885 00:48:54,142 --> 00:48:57,437 "for which the causation is unknown, 886 00:48:57,479 --> 00:49:00,858 "and it's to be left to the judgment of the physician 887 00:49:00,899 --> 00:49:02,651 as to how to manage this." 888 00:49:03,944 --> 00:49:06,071 But that went too far for them. 889 00:49:06,113 --> 00:49:10,784 And they removed my draft and put in their own draft. 890 00:49:10,826 --> 00:49:13,203 It's like chronic Lyme disease doesn't exist. 891 00:49:14,538 --> 00:49:16,373 That was Dr. Wormser. 892 00:49:16,415 --> 00:49:19,626 He issued a final declaration as far as, 893 00:49:19,668 --> 00:49:21,503 "You can sign it, but we're not gonna 894 00:49:21,545 --> 00:49:23,922 have a minority report," if you will. 895 00:49:23,964 --> 00:49:25,716 And so you're stuck. 896 00:49:25,757 --> 00:49:27,593 How are you gonna undo something? 897 00:49:27,634 --> 00:49:29,052 Who's gonna back off? 898 00:49:31,513 --> 00:49:33,098 - Unfortunately, I've seen people 899 00:49:33,140 --> 00:49:34,766 whose lives were destroyed 900 00:49:34,808 --> 00:49:37,436 because they went years and years and years 901 00:49:37,477 --> 00:49:41,940 with no treatment or inadequate treatment. 902 00:49:41,982 --> 00:49:43,942 And it ate away at their bodies 903 00:49:43,984 --> 00:49:45,527 and their brains, 904 00:49:45,569 --> 00:49:49,156 at their organs, until they succumbed. 905 00:49:49,198 --> 00:49:52,743 So it's a very complex situation, 906 00:49:52,784 --> 00:49:55,037 and the insurance companies have made use 907 00:49:55,078 --> 00:49:58,582 of that complexity to their economic advantage. 908 00:49:59,333 --> 00:50:02,628 - In my opinion, no way was her care experimental. 909 00:50:02,669 --> 00:50:05,339 Her care was absolutely medically necessary. 910 00:50:05,380 --> 00:50:07,633 And the necessity of it was demonstrated-- 911 00:50:07,674 --> 00:50:09,343 whenever she stopped being treated, 912 00:50:09,384 --> 00:50:12,095 she would deteriorate in objectively measurable ways, 913 00:50:12,137 --> 00:50:14,139 and when she got treated, she would improve 914 00:50:14,181 --> 00:50:17,267 in objectively measurable ways. 915 00:50:17,309 --> 00:50:19,353 Vicki went for a number of years 916 00:50:19,394 --> 00:50:21,063 without the treatment that she needed, 917 00:50:21,104 --> 00:50:24,983 and during that time, her condition deteriorated. 918 00:50:25,025 --> 00:50:27,069 One of her last stays at Northern Westchester, 919 00:50:27,110 --> 00:50:29,613 I undertook a long interview with her. 920 00:50:29,655 --> 00:50:32,616 Vicki, you want to take a couple of minutes 921 00:50:32,658 --> 00:50:35,202 to say anything from your own heart? 922 00:51:08,443 --> 00:51:11,989 - She experienced a series of grand mal seizures. 923 00:51:12,030 --> 00:51:14,199 Her friend Rosalyn said that Vicki, you know, 924 00:51:14,241 --> 00:51:16,118 mouthed to her, "I love you." 925 00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:19,621 And within a few days, you know, 926 00:51:19,663 --> 00:51:21,123 she was dead. 927 00:51:23,584 --> 00:51:26,545 Vicki's case was reported in the-- 928 00:51:26,587 --> 00:51:28,547 in the "New York Times'" Science Times, 929 00:51:28,589 --> 00:51:30,924 I think in August of 1993. 930 00:51:30,966 --> 00:51:34,052 I fully expected that, you know, 931 00:51:34,094 --> 00:51:35,554 that would be a turning point. 932 00:51:35,596 --> 00:51:38,891 And it's just incredible to me that here we are, 933 00:51:38,932 --> 00:51:40,726 you know, pushing 30 years later, 934 00:51:40,767 --> 00:51:43,478 and there's still so much controversy 935 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,815 and so much difficulty for the patients. 936 00:51:48,066 --> 00:51:50,944 Let me tell you, the deck was stacked against, 937 00:51:50,986 --> 00:51:53,447 you know, Vicki and patients like her. 938 00:51:55,616 --> 00:51:57,326 [video static crescendos] 939 00:52:02,956 --> 00:52:04,791 - I need you say, "When I stand up, 940 00:52:04,833 --> 00:52:06,627 "although maybe I'm weak and I can't walk, 941 00:52:06,668 --> 00:52:08,212 but I'm not gonna pass out." 942 00:52:08,253 --> 00:52:09,379 And that's when I'm gonna know. 943 00:52:09,421 --> 00:52:10,923 And that's the thing you have to understand is, 944 00:52:10,964 --> 00:52:12,508 till the blood pressure is controlled, 945 00:52:12,549 --> 00:52:14,343 I can't do the physical therapy for the legs. 946 00:52:14,384 --> 00:52:15,344 - Right, right. - Right? 947 00:52:15,385 --> 00:52:17,304 And that's gonna be essential to getting this whole thing done. 948 00:52:17,346 --> 00:52:18,764 - Absolutely. - So that's why I'm trying 949 00:52:18,805 --> 00:52:21,350 to go as fast as I can but in a safe manner. 950 00:52:21,391 --> 00:52:22,809 - Right, right, right, right. 951 00:52:28,398 --> 00:52:31,193 - Julia, if you could put your arm out a little bit for me... 952 00:52:36,156 --> 00:52:37,991 - Okay. [whimpers] 953 00:52:38,033 --> 00:52:39,826 Dad, I don't wanna. - I know. 954 00:52:39,868 --> 00:52:41,161 Let him do the blood pressure. 955 00:52:41,203 --> 00:52:42,746 - [whines] 956 00:52:42,788 --> 00:52:45,582 - Okay, you can put her back now. 957 00:52:45,624 --> 00:52:46,792 - Wait, stay here. 958 00:52:46,834 --> 00:52:48,293 - I'm staying. I'm staying. 959 00:52:49,837 --> 00:52:51,505 - Let me just check her pulse. 960 00:53:09,857 --> 00:53:12,568 - She's at 140 beats per minute. 961 00:53:12,609 --> 00:53:14,486 - [groans] 962 00:53:14,528 --> 00:53:16,530 [tense music] 963 00:53:16,572 --> 00:53:17,823 - When you feel like you're dying 964 00:53:17,865 --> 00:53:20,367 and there's nothing else to try, 965 00:53:20,409 --> 00:53:22,369 you reach for anything you can. 966 00:53:22,411 --> 00:53:23,704 You have to take that risk. 967 00:53:24,663 --> 00:53:26,498 - Even if God came down and told me, 968 00:53:26,540 --> 00:53:28,834 "You're doing the right thing," I'd be scared. 969 00:53:28,876 --> 00:53:32,296 I'm scared till this day, giving her any medication. 970 00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,633 The hospitals wanted us 971 00:53:36,675 --> 00:53:39,678 to go into an in-patient rehabilitation center 972 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:43,765 to get physical therapy and psychiatry. 973 00:53:43,807 --> 00:53:46,810 This is the only option the hospitals gave me. 974 00:53:46,852 --> 00:53:49,229 They gave me nothing else. 975 00:53:49,271 --> 00:53:50,272 - You just say when, Julia. 976 00:53:52,024 --> 00:53:54,151 I'm starting now. 977 00:53:54,193 --> 00:53:56,403 - [whimpering] Ow, ow, ow. 978 00:53:56,445 --> 00:53:58,155 - Nine seconds. Ten seconds. 979 00:53:58,197 --> 00:53:59,406 - Down, down. Down. 980 00:53:59,448 --> 00:54:00,532 - Down? Down? You sure? 981 00:54:00,574 --> 00:54:01,700 - Down. Please go down. 982 00:54:01,742 --> 00:54:02,868 Go down, James. - Try to get to 30. 983 00:54:02,910 --> 00:54:04,119 Try to get to 30. - James, go down now. 984 00:54:04,161 --> 00:54:05,537 Please, James. 985 00:54:07,873 --> 00:54:09,499 - I know that Julia's had plenty of breaks 986 00:54:09,541 --> 00:54:12,836 off of antibiotics for several months at a time, 987 00:54:12,878 --> 00:54:16,298 and she's gotten sicker off of medication. 988 00:54:16,340 --> 00:54:18,008 So what do you do? 989 00:54:18,884 --> 00:54:21,637 I can't just let her get worse. 990 00:54:21,678 --> 00:54:23,597 You know, we have to try to fight 991 00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:26,725 until we feel like we've exhausted everything. 992 00:54:26,767 --> 00:54:28,477 - Night sweats, hot and cold. 993 00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:30,270 Severe fatigue. Shortness of breath. 994 00:54:30,312 --> 00:54:31,939 Sore throats and swollen glands. 995 00:54:31,980 --> 00:54:34,399 Joint pain in the knuckles, shoulders. 996 00:54:34,441 --> 00:54:36,276 Severe headaches. Burning, tingling, 997 00:54:36,318 --> 00:54:38,153 and buzzing sensations of the lower extremities 998 00:54:38,195 --> 00:54:39,446 with loss of sensation. 999 00:54:39,488 --> 00:54:41,782 Blurry vision. Severe cognitive problems. 1000 00:54:41,823 --> 00:54:44,034 This is five months into this treatment. 1001 00:54:44,076 --> 00:54:45,285 - Absolutely. - The majority 1002 00:54:45,327 --> 00:54:46,954 of all these symptoms are better. 1003 00:54:46,995 --> 00:54:49,581 - Don't open your eyes, Stephen, until I tell you to open them. 1004 00:54:49,623 --> 00:54:52,376 Don't touch your eyes! Don't-- 1005 00:54:52,417 --> 00:54:54,837 all: ♪ Happy birthday… ♪ 1006 00:54:54,878 --> 00:54:56,964 - I was forced to write this appeal 1007 00:54:57,005 --> 00:54:59,800 because our insurance company was calling Julia's condition 1008 00:54:59,842 --> 00:55:02,094 "not medically necessary." 1009 00:55:02,135 --> 00:55:05,472 I've paid high premiums to my insurance company for years. 1010 00:55:05,514 --> 00:55:09,226 The fact that we were abandoned by the insurance company 1011 00:55:09,268 --> 00:55:10,811 is unacceptable. 1012 00:55:12,729 --> 00:55:14,439 We still have people showing us love 1013 00:55:14,481 --> 00:55:16,984 and showing us support. 1014 00:55:17,025 --> 00:55:20,612 Unfortunately, though, the funds aren't there anymore. 1015 00:55:20,654 --> 00:55:22,281 Nobody really understands, when you're dealing 1016 00:55:22,322 --> 00:55:25,033 with chronic disease, you know, 1017 00:55:25,075 --> 00:55:27,160 treatment can go on for a very long time. 1018 00:55:27,202 --> 00:55:29,663 [indistinct chatter] 1019 00:55:31,290 --> 00:55:34,209 - Hey, Cyclones fans, direct your attention to the field. 1020 00:55:34,251 --> 00:55:36,670 It is time for our charity partner of the night. 1021 00:55:36,712 --> 00:55:39,506 Julia has a long way to go on her path to wellness, 1022 00:55:39,548 --> 00:55:41,300 and we need your help. 1023 00:55:41,341 --> 00:55:44,928 Please Google Julia Bruzzese on GoFundMe, 1024 00:55:44,970 --> 00:55:47,139 and be as generous as you can. 1025 00:55:57,107 --> 00:56:00,235 - Support Julia Bruzzese and her fight with Lyme disease! 1026 00:56:00,277 --> 00:56:03,113 Spin the wheel for $10 and win a prize. 1027 00:56:05,866 --> 00:56:08,827 [building tense music] 1028 00:56:08,869 --> 00:56:15,876 ♪ ♪ 1029 00:56:22,299 --> 00:56:24,134 [people screaming distantly] 1030 00:56:24,176 --> 00:56:27,137 [fireworks popping and whistling] 1031 00:56:28,472 --> 00:56:32,434 - When I'm with my friends, even though I love my friends, 1032 00:56:32,476 --> 00:56:34,811 it's amazing to see what their priorities are 1033 00:56:34,853 --> 00:56:37,523 and what mine are 1034 00:56:37,564 --> 00:56:38,982 and what they think about 1035 00:56:39,024 --> 00:56:42,110 when they're alone in their bed at night 1036 00:56:42,152 --> 00:56:43,779 and what I think about. 1037 00:56:43,820 --> 00:56:45,989 [fireworks whistling] 1038 00:56:49,284 --> 00:56:52,579 Looking at a girl or boy my age, 1039 00:56:52,621 --> 00:56:55,332 they kind of know what their future's like. 1040 00:56:55,374 --> 00:56:59,169 That they're gonna go to college, get a job. 1041 00:56:59,211 --> 00:57:02,548 But when I think about mine, I just-- 1042 00:57:02,589 --> 00:57:04,842 I know what I want to do, and I know what my goals are. 1043 00:57:04,883 --> 00:57:08,720 And I just don't know what I'm gonna be capable of. 1044 00:57:08,762 --> 00:57:12,516 And I think that's the scary part of this disease, 1045 00:57:12,558 --> 00:57:14,643 that you don't know what the next day is gonna be like. 1046 00:57:22,901 --> 00:57:25,863 [tense music] 1047 00:57:25,904 --> 00:57:29,741 ♪ ♪ 1048 00:57:29,783 --> 00:57:33,161 - During the 1990s, there was all this fighting going on, 1049 00:57:33,203 --> 00:57:34,413 and I often wondered, 1050 00:57:34,454 --> 00:57:37,332 what is going to change people's minds? 1051 00:57:39,042 --> 00:57:41,795 They didn't believe that persistent infection 1052 00:57:41,837 --> 00:57:45,048 after antibiotic treatment was possible. 1053 00:57:45,090 --> 00:57:48,218 Unless you can prove the spirochete persists, 1054 00:57:48,260 --> 00:57:52,639 repeated antibiotic therapy makes absolutely no sense. 1055 00:57:52,681 --> 00:57:55,642 And I agree with them, that that is a fundamental thing 1056 00:57:55,684 --> 00:57:57,769 that you want to be able to show. 1057 00:57:58,896 --> 00:58:03,275 What totally changed the world of Lyme disease research 1058 00:58:03,317 --> 00:58:08,113 was in 2008, when one of the world's best researchers 1059 00:58:08,155 --> 00:58:11,408 on Lyme disease published a paper showing that, 1060 00:58:11,450 --> 00:58:16,496 despite antibiotic treatment, the spirochete can persist. 1061 00:58:16,538 --> 00:58:19,124 And then Monica Embers at Tulane published her paper 1062 00:58:19,166 --> 00:58:22,628 showing persistent infection in the monkey model. 1063 00:58:22,669 --> 00:58:25,172 So if that happens in the mouse model and the monkey model, 1064 00:58:25,214 --> 00:58:27,424 why wouldn't it happen in the human? 1065 00:58:29,218 --> 00:58:32,888 - I lead the vector-borne diseases corps here 1066 00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:35,474 at the Tulane Primate Center. 1067 00:58:35,516 --> 00:58:38,435 I can infect ten different monkeys 1068 00:58:38,477 --> 00:58:40,896 with the same strain of Borrelli burgdorferi 1069 00:58:40,938 --> 00:58:42,814 and see very different outcomes 1070 00:58:42,856 --> 00:58:44,608 after antibiotic treatment. 1071 00:58:45,943 --> 00:58:48,695 What we found--some were infected in the heart. 1072 00:58:48,737 --> 00:58:50,822 Some were infected in the joints. 1073 00:58:50,864 --> 00:58:52,866 And probably the most surprising aspect of it 1074 00:58:52,908 --> 00:58:56,286 was that we found multiple spirochetes in the brains 1075 00:58:56,328 --> 00:58:59,831 of two of our doxycycline-treated monkeys. 1076 00:58:59,873 --> 00:59:02,042 We know that they persisted. 1077 00:59:03,377 --> 00:59:06,755 - We're dealing with a very unique situation here. 1078 00:59:06,797 --> 00:59:08,382 The current Lyme antibiotic 1079 00:59:08,423 --> 00:59:12,803 does not completely eradicate Borrelli bacteria. 1080 00:59:12,845 --> 00:59:16,056 We found this dandelion phenomenon. 1081 00:59:16,098 --> 00:59:19,184 The mower is equivalent to the antibiotics 1082 00:59:19,226 --> 00:59:21,186 that chopped off the top part. 1083 00:59:21,228 --> 00:59:24,106 But because the root, the persister, is still there, 1084 00:59:24,147 --> 00:59:25,774 they can grow back. 1085 00:59:25,816 --> 00:59:28,485 You need drugs targeting both parts 1086 00:59:28,527 --> 00:59:31,363 in order to more effectively cure 1087 00:59:31,405 --> 00:59:33,907 these persistent form of the disease. 1088 00:59:35,534 --> 00:59:38,912 - I think the future is good science 1089 00:59:38,954 --> 00:59:42,666 engaging top-notch researchers and getting them excited 1090 00:59:42,708 --> 00:59:45,544 about the opportunities in this field. 1091 00:59:45,586 --> 00:59:49,214 I've always stressed that I think this field 1092 00:59:49,256 --> 00:59:51,842 could use people from the outside taking a fresh look. 1093 00:59:52,718 --> 00:59:55,053 Just to be sitting in one place together, 1094 00:59:55,095 --> 00:59:59,057 talking about the issues, I've got very high hopes, 1095 00:59:59,099 --> 01:00:01,894 as do, I think, everyone on the team, 1096 01:00:01,935 --> 01:00:04,521 that we're heading in a very good direction. 1097 01:00:05,647 --> 01:00:07,941 - When I was at Tulane, sitting in a room with, like, 1098 01:00:07,983 --> 01:00:09,985 15 people from all these major universities, 1099 01:00:10,027 --> 01:00:12,654 all top researchers in their field, 1100 01:00:12,696 --> 01:00:14,615 and for the first time ever, 1101 01:00:14,656 --> 01:00:16,325 they were all in there in the same room, 1102 01:00:16,366 --> 01:00:18,577 saying, "Okay, chronic Lyme, 1103 01:00:18,619 --> 01:00:19,828 "we may not have a cure. 1104 01:00:19,870 --> 01:00:21,872 "Chronic Bartonella, we may not have a cure. 1105 01:00:21,914 --> 01:00:23,081 Let's work on this problem." 1106 01:00:23,123 --> 01:00:24,917 It's super hopeful. 1107 01:00:24,958 --> 01:00:26,293 But you still have these doctors 1108 01:00:26,335 --> 01:00:28,003 who are digging their heels in the sand. 1109 01:00:28,045 --> 01:00:30,380 They're recognizing that there's-- a tide is turning, 1110 01:00:30,422 --> 01:00:32,257 and they're becoming more vocal. 1111 01:00:33,175 --> 01:00:35,427 If you have three major universities that come out-- 1112 01:00:35,469 --> 01:00:37,471 Johns Hopkins, Tulane, and Northeastern-- 1113 01:00:37,513 --> 01:00:40,390 saying, "We can't kill Lyme effectively in a test tube," 1114 01:00:40,432 --> 01:00:41,642 then you have a major problem. 1115 01:00:41,683 --> 01:00:42,643 You have a major problem, 1116 01:00:42,684 --> 01:00:44,603 because your position becomes increasingly untenable. 1117 01:00:44,645 --> 01:00:46,188 We have all this animal data showing 1118 01:00:46,230 --> 01:00:47,689 that we're not curing the monkeys, 1119 01:00:47,731 --> 01:00:49,566 we're not curing the dogs, we're not curing the mice, 1120 01:00:49,608 --> 01:00:51,109 and we're not curing the horses 1121 01:00:51,151 --> 01:00:52,861 with the same antibiotic regimens 1122 01:00:52,903 --> 01:00:55,489 you're supposed to, you know, cure people. 1123 01:00:55,531 --> 01:00:57,741 Of course it's gonna change. Look, the truth is the truth, 1124 01:00:57,783 --> 01:00:59,660 and eventually, it comes to the surface. 1125 01:00:59,701 --> 01:01:01,745 But it's bubbling up very slowly, 1126 01:01:01,787 --> 01:01:04,790 like--like, glacially slowly, 1127 01:01:04,831 --> 01:01:07,793 too slow for people who are desperately ill. 1128 01:01:07,835 --> 01:01:10,504 ♪ ♪ 1129 01:01:10,546 --> 01:01:14,341 - For years, the federal government has spent very little 1130 01:01:14,383 --> 01:01:17,803 to look into the problems of Lyme disease. 1131 01:01:17,845 --> 01:01:21,098 Compare that to private foundations, 1132 01:01:21,139 --> 01:01:24,726 which have spent something on the order of $100 million 1133 01:01:24,768 --> 01:01:28,063 in recent years on research that today 1134 01:01:28,105 --> 01:01:30,858 is answering some of the key questions 1135 01:01:30,899 --> 01:01:34,653 that weren't even being asked by the federal government, 1136 01:01:34,695 --> 01:01:38,282 by the traditional mainstream researchers. 1137 01:01:39,116 --> 01:01:42,160 They have written over and over 1138 01:01:42,202 --> 01:01:44,997 that Lyme disease is not chronic. 1139 01:01:45,038 --> 01:01:48,458 They have published in major American journals. 1140 01:01:48,500 --> 01:01:52,671 And the journals are as invested in that view 1141 01:01:52,713 --> 01:01:57,759 as are these researchers, as is the CDC and the NIH. 1142 01:01:59,052 --> 01:02:01,763 So to walk away from that now 1143 01:02:01,805 --> 01:02:05,475 would be very difficult for them to do. 1144 01:02:15,611 --> 01:02:17,070 - We've come a long way 1145 01:02:17,112 --> 01:02:19,489 from when this seemed like a pipe dream, 1146 01:02:19,531 --> 01:02:21,533 like, "Yeah, wow, wouldn't this be great 1147 01:02:21,575 --> 01:02:23,452 if we could actually image Borrelia?" 1148 01:02:23,493 --> 01:02:25,412 And here we are, you know, two years later, 1149 01:02:25,454 --> 01:02:28,290 waiting to see this all-important experiment. 1150 01:02:28,332 --> 01:02:31,043 You know, a year from now, we'll be looking at a scan 1151 01:02:31,084 --> 01:02:34,087 of the first patient getting this... 1152 01:02:34,129 --> 01:02:35,339 hopefully. 1153 01:02:35,380 --> 01:02:39,718 The current tests, you know, only continue to fuel the debate 1154 01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,054 of whether chronic symptoms are related 1155 01:02:42,095 --> 01:02:46,850 to the persistence of living bacteria 1156 01:02:46,892 --> 01:02:51,813 or whether they're related to, you know, some other cause. 1157 01:02:51,855 --> 01:02:55,359 If you could image this in the body, I think that removes all doubt. 1158 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:57,569 I'm not sure there's a controversy anymore. 1159 01:02:57,611 --> 01:03:00,030 That, to me, is pretty definitive evidence 1160 01:03:00,072 --> 01:03:01,949 that you've got the bacteria 1161 01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:05,077 and you need to be treated for an active infection. 1162 01:03:05,118 --> 01:03:07,204 I should have told these bacteria, "Don't piss me off." 1163 01:03:27,391 --> 01:03:29,434 - Oh. Whoa. - Oh, wow. 1164 01:03:29,476 --> 01:03:31,228 both: Whoa. - Whoa. 1165 01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:32,855 Look at that. - Okay. [laughs] 1166 01:03:32,896 --> 01:03:34,231 - Starry sky. 1167 01:03:34,273 --> 01:03:36,358 Look at that. - Oh, my gosh. 1168 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:39,736 - That is, like, spirochete city. 1169 01:03:39,778 --> 01:03:41,405 - You can see aggregates. - Oh, my God. 1170 01:03:41,446 --> 01:03:43,282 - You can see a little bit of smearing 1171 01:03:43,323 --> 01:03:45,200 and then a bunch of what looks to be individuals. 1172 01:03:45,242 --> 01:03:47,244 - That's, like, unbelievable. Look at that. 1173 01:03:48,161 --> 01:03:49,413 This is in the heart. 1174 01:03:49,454 --> 01:03:50,831 - Yup. 1175 01:03:53,208 --> 01:03:55,460 - What if you could attach a toxin 1176 01:03:55,502 --> 01:03:57,504 that just wipes those cells out? 1177 01:03:57,546 --> 01:03:59,381 I mean, that's the magic bullet. 1178 01:03:59,423 --> 01:04:00,716 - Yup. - Right? 1179 01:04:00,757 --> 01:04:04,303 Kill the target. Avoid the normal tissue. 1180 01:04:04,344 --> 01:04:07,097 This is it. 1181 01:04:07,139 --> 01:04:08,974 This is, like, proof of concept. 1182 01:04:09,016 --> 01:04:11,143 We can actually do this. 1183 01:04:11,185 --> 01:04:14,146 [soft dramatic music] 1184 01:04:14,188 --> 01:04:15,939 ♪ ♪ 1185 01:04:15,981 --> 01:04:17,441 Appropriate diagnosis and treatment. 1186 01:04:17,482 --> 01:04:19,067 It's gonna save lives. 1187 01:04:20,944 --> 01:04:23,363 And you know what, and vindication for everyone 1188 01:04:23,405 --> 01:04:27,868 who has been denied care and told that they're crazy. 1189 01:04:27,910 --> 01:04:29,369 This is, like, for you. 1190 01:04:30,913 --> 01:04:32,789 Told, "It's all in your head." 1191 01:04:32,831 --> 01:04:34,166 But you know what, it is all in your head. 1192 01:04:34,208 --> 01:04:35,751 It's right there. 1193 01:04:37,669 --> 01:04:39,254 It's in your head. It's in your heart. 1194 01:04:39,296 --> 01:04:42,341 It's in your ear. It's in your joints. 1195 01:04:54,853 --> 01:04:58,649 Good science will trump bad behavior. 1196 01:05:00,067 --> 01:05:02,903 And when that change happens, hopefully it won't just be 1197 01:05:02,945 --> 01:05:05,656 at the level of clinical practice, 1198 01:05:05,697 --> 01:05:09,868 but it'll be public policy, it'll be insurance coverage, 1199 01:05:09,910 --> 01:05:12,913 and all the other injustices that have really been 1200 01:05:12,955 --> 01:05:16,875 perpetuated will sort of fall by the wayside. 1201 01:05:16,917 --> 01:05:20,212 I'm very hopeful of the work that we're doing. 1202 01:05:20,254 --> 01:05:24,007 Every day that I come in, I push our team. 1203 01:05:24,049 --> 01:05:28,053 I implore them. They all know your stories. 1204 01:05:28,095 --> 01:05:30,764 - Please join me in welcoming Neil Spector. 1205 01:05:30,806 --> 01:05:32,182 Neil? 1206 01:05:32,224 --> 01:05:34,601 [applause] 1207 01:05:34,643 --> 01:05:38,856 - I want to tell you, I think, a hopeful story. 1208 01:05:38,897 --> 01:05:40,858 We want to develop a "theranostic"-- 1209 01:05:40,899 --> 01:05:43,610 a therapeutic diagnostic in one molecule. 1210 01:05:43,652 --> 01:05:44,611 - Here you are. You're a physician. 1211 01:05:44,653 --> 01:05:47,990 You're connected. - We need more research in this area. 1212 01:05:48,031 --> 01:05:50,701 That's one of my missions is to raise awareness 1213 01:05:50,742 --> 01:05:53,161 that this is not a disease that's easily diagnosed 1214 01:05:53,203 --> 01:05:55,622 and easily cured, as many believe. 1215 01:05:55,664 --> 01:05:57,583 - Here is Dr. Neil Spector. 1216 01:05:57,624 --> 01:05:58,792 [applause] 1217 01:05:58,834 --> 01:06:01,461 - Thank you. It's a great pleasure to be here. 1218 01:06:01,503 --> 01:06:05,048 This is my ten-year anniversary of my transplant 1219 01:06:05,090 --> 01:06:08,093 from a misdiagnosis of Lyme disease. 1220 01:06:10,679 --> 01:06:13,265 I know what it's like, in a very tangible, real way, 1221 01:06:13,307 --> 01:06:15,642 to face your mortality. 1222 01:06:15,684 --> 01:06:18,937 So, you know, I'm not somebody who doesn't 1223 01:06:18,979 --> 01:06:21,982 speak the language of those suffering. 1224 01:06:22,024 --> 01:06:24,026 [cheers and applause] 1225 01:06:24,067 --> 01:06:26,278 It's hard, though. You know, it's hard. 1226 01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,031 I mean, I get fatigued. I get tired. 1227 01:06:29,072 --> 01:06:32,826 I need, frankly, to figure out a better balance in my life, 1228 01:06:32,868 --> 01:06:35,162 because there are times when I feel 1229 01:06:35,204 --> 01:06:37,289 like I'm heading in a very bad direction 1230 01:06:37,331 --> 01:06:41,960 and losing sort of perspective on my own life. 1231 01:06:46,507 --> 01:06:49,218 I may actually go home and kind of relax 1232 01:06:49,259 --> 01:06:52,095 for a little while before the next trip. 1233 01:06:52,137 --> 01:06:54,556 Hang out with my dog and my family. 1234 01:06:56,475 --> 01:06:58,685 That'll be good. 1235 01:07:02,814 --> 01:07:05,817 [ambient sounds] 1236 01:07:15,744 --> 01:07:20,958 - It's been very complicated, as far as treatment goes. 1237 01:07:20,999 --> 01:07:24,044 There's just not enough here for Julia. 1238 01:07:25,337 --> 01:07:28,048 Even though we've seen tremendous improvements 1239 01:07:28,090 --> 01:07:30,884 with Dr. Horowitz, 1240 01:07:30,926 --> 01:07:34,346 it's been, like, almost impossible to try to overcome certain things 1241 01:07:34,388 --> 01:07:38,350 that I feel are really serious in Julia's health. 1242 01:07:38,392 --> 01:07:40,602 So I've been doing a lot of research 1243 01:07:40,644 --> 01:07:42,688 and looking at a lot of different treatment options 1244 01:07:42,729 --> 01:07:45,566 in other countries. 1245 01:07:45,607 --> 01:07:47,359 The most promising thing I found 1246 01:07:47,401 --> 01:07:49,820 was embryonic stem cells in India. 1247 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,031 Julia's been sick for three years. 1248 01:07:53,073 --> 01:07:55,367 I think we've tried everything. 1249 01:07:55,409 --> 01:07:56,952 There's one or two things we haven't tried, 1250 01:07:56,994 --> 01:07:58,495 and this is one of them. 1251 01:07:59,788 --> 01:08:02,749 [tense music] 1252 01:08:02,791 --> 01:08:09,631 ♪ ♪ 1253 01:08:09,673 --> 01:08:12,259 Her diagnosis for Lyme was missed. 1254 01:08:13,385 --> 01:08:15,387 You know, doesn't seem 1255 01:08:15,429 --> 01:08:17,723 like it's gonna be an easy thing to fix. 1256 01:08:37,451 --> 01:08:39,077 - May I start? 1257 01:08:39,119 --> 01:08:41,121 Julia is a known case of Lyme disease. 1258 01:08:41,163 --> 01:08:42,581 Is that correct? - That is correct. 1259 01:08:42,622 --> 01:08:44,291 - And, Julia, how old are you? 1260 01:08:44,333 --> 01:08:45,834 - 15. - Are you aware 1261 01:08:45,876 --> 01:08:47,878 that the [indistinct] stem cell treatment 1262 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:49,421 is an experimental treatment 1263 01:08:49,462 --> 01:08:51,715 and there are no guarantees of any medical benefits 1264 01:08:51,756 --> 01:08:53,050 it will bear? 1265 01:08:53,091 --> 01:08:55,426 - Yes. - And are you willing to undergo it? 1266 01:08:55,469 --> 01:08:57,930 - Yes. - Thank you. 1267 01:08:57,970 --> 01:09:01,558 - You know, reading the consent, I almost feel guilty. 1268 01:09:01,600 --> 01:09:04,102 You know, you always feel like you're making the wrong decisions. 1269 01:09:04,144 --> 01:09:05,437 You don't know. 1270 01:09:05,478 --> 01:09:08,523 You know, as sufferers, we're vulnerable, 1271 01:09:08,565 --> 01:09:14,530 so we, you know, are easy to buy into anything, you know? 1272 01:09:14,571 --> 01:09:17,532 [tense music] 1273 01:09:17,574 --> 01:09:24,581 ♪ ♪ 1274 01:09:43,559 --> 01:09:45,935 - Okay, just hold this position. 1275 01:09:45,978 --> 01:09:47,020 Can you just hold it there? Yeah? 1276 01:09:47,062 --> 01:09:49,648 - Mm. - Don't let it fall. 1277 01:09:49,690 --> 01:09:52,234 Bring it out. 1278 01:09:52,276 --> 01:09:54,236 Hold it. Hold the position. 1279 01:09:54,278 --> 01:09:56,697 Try and hold it. - There's no sensing. 1280 01:09:56,737 --> 01:09:58,699 - Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. - Can't sense, so... 1281 01:09:58,740 --> 01:10:00,032 Try and hold it. 1282 01:10:00,075 --> 01:10:01,952 Try and bring it out towards me. 1283 01:10:02,911 --> 01:10:04,204 Bring it out. 1284 01:10:05,621 --> 01:10:07,165 Try and bring it out. 1285 01:10:07,207 --> 01:10:09,585 Out. Try and take it in. 1286 01:10:11,670 --> 01:10:14,423 In. No? - Mm. 1287 01:10:14,464 --> 01:10:16,049 - All right. 1288 01:10:25,726 --> 01:10:28,395 [soft dramatic music] 1289 01:10:28,437 --> 01:10:31,648 - One form of arthritis may be caused by a germ 1290 01:10:31,690 --> 01:10:34,693 or virus that's being transmitted by ticks, 1291 01:10:34,735 --> 01:10:37,362 the insects that thrive in wooded areas. 1292 01:10:37,404 --> 01:10:38,864 The research could, at the same time, 1293 01:10:38,906 --> 01:10:40,407 in the distant future, 1294 01:10:40,449 --> 01:10:42,159 lead to the development of a vaccine 1295 01:10:42,201 --> 01:10:43,952 against this one form of arthritis, 1296 01:10:43,994 --> 01:10:45,954 which is being called Lyme arthritis. 1297 01:10:52,085 --> 01:10:56,340 - Around 1980, a law called Bayh-Dole was passed. 1298 01:10:57,549 --> 01:10:59,675 Bayh-Dole changed the patent law 1299 01:10:59,718 --> 01:11:04,306 to make it permissible for grantees of federal funds 1300 01:11:04,348 --> 01:11:07,601 and also some of the federal agencies themselves 1301 01:11:07,643 --> 01:11:11,063 to benefit from patents that were acquired. 1302 01:11:11,980 --> 01:11:13,565 - This set the stage 1303 01:11:13,607 --> 01:11:15,317 for people who had, at one time, 1304 01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:17,193 been just pure scientists 1305 01:11:17,236 --> 01:11:21,365 to actually make money from their research. 1306 01:11:21,406 --> 01:11:24,785 And it set the stage for some pretty concerning 1307 01:11:24,826 --> 01:11:27,079 conflicts of interest. 1308 01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,206 - So--okay, this is 1980. 1309 01:11:29,248 --> 01:11:30,541 So guess what. 1310 01:11:30,582 --> 01:11:36,171 1982, that's when the Borrelia organism was discovered. 1311 01:11:37,464 --> 01:11:40,342 A, the Lyme organism is arguably one 1312 01:11:40,384 --> 01:11:43,554 of the most complex bacteria known to man, 1313 01:11:43,594 --> 01:11:47,599 and, B, arguably or maybe inarguably, 1314 01:11:47,641 --> 01:11:50,769 it is the most heavily patented bacteria known to man. 1315 01:11:50,811 --> 01:11:53,772 [tense music] 1316 01:11:53,814 --> 01:11:56,733 ♪ ♪ 1317 01:11:56,775 --> 01:11:59,027 So everybody has a piece of this bacteria. 1318 01:12:01,697 --> 01:12:03,782 - A study out tonight concludes lab tests 1319 01:12:03,824 --> 01:12:06,785 for Lyme disease are strikingly inaccurate. 1320 01:12:06,827 --> 01:12:09,288 Experts say tests made by more than 30 companies 1321 01:12:09,329 --> 01:12:12,666 who jumped into the business are just not very good. 1322 01:12:12,708 --> 01:12:16,003 The government is now pumping money into developing a better blood test-- 1323 01:12:16,044 --> 01:12:17,421 a little late, experts say, 1324 01:12:17,462 --> 01:12:20,174 but a recognition that what was once a regional problem 1325 01:12:20,215 --> 01:12:21,508 is now a national one. 1326 01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:25,304 - So in 1994, 1327 01:12:25,344 --> 01:12:29,516 the major players in the NIH, in the CDC, 1328 01:12:29,558 --> 01:12:33,103 and the IDSA came together for a conference 1329 01:12:33,145 --> 01:12:38,150 in Dearborn, Michigan, to develop a standard test. 1330 01:12:38,192 --> 01:12:41,403 But the huge backdrop was a vaccine. 1331 01:12:41,445 --> 01:12:44,072 A vaccine was in development. 1332 01:12:44,114 --> 01:12:49,827 And it would affect the way this test was constructed. 1333 01:12:52,748 --> 01:12:56,126 - A Western blot is a test where they actually take a blotter, 1334 01:12:56,168 --> 01:12:58,921 and on this blotter, they take a drop of your blood 1335 01:12:58,962 --> 01:13:00,464 or your serum, and they put it on the blot, 1336 01:13:00,505 --> 01:13:03,300 and it starts to move; it migrates. 1337 01:13:03,342 --> 01:13:06,929 The bacteria has proteins on the outside of its surface, 1338 01:13:06,969 --> 01:13:11,808 and your immune system recognizes some of these specific proteins. 1339 01:13:11,850 --> 01:13:13,809 It's like a lock and a key. 1340 01:13:13,852 --> 01:13:16,355 If you have five of these specific proteins 1341 01:13:16,396 --> 01:13:18,357 that show you've been exposed to Lyme, 1342 01:13:18,398 --> 01:13:21,401 you have a CDC positive Western blot. 1343 01:13:21,443 --> 01:13:25,405 - But what these powers of Lyme disease decided to do 1344 01:13:25,447 --> 01:13:29,034 was to eliminate two of those key markers, 1345 01:13:29,076 --> 01:13:30,994 because they were going to be used 1346 01:13:31,036 --> 01:13:34,121 in the development of a vaccine. 1347 01:13:34,164 --> 01:13:37,000 Those two markers would be used 1348 01:13:37,041 --> 01:13:41,171 to spur the antibody response when you got the vaccine. 1349 01:13:41,213 --> 01:13:45,175 So they decided they needed to remove them from the test 1350 01:13:45,217 --> 01:13:48,136 so that if you had been vaccinated, 1351 01:13:48,178 --> 01:13:51,849 you would not test positive for Lyme disease. 1352 01:13:51,889 --> 01:13:53,517 - Now, why is that important? 1353 01:13:53,559 --> 01:13:56,562 When you take away the 31 and 34 bands, 1354 01:13:56,603 --> 01:13:58,897 which are highly specific for Lyme, 1355 01:13:58,939 --> 01:14:00,816 you're then taking away the possibility 1356 01:14:00,858 --> 01:14:03,402 for those people who've not had the vaccine 1357 01:14:03,443 --> 01:14:05,737 to help diagnose this disease. 1358 01:14:05,779 --> 01:14:07,656 So if you come to a doctor's office, 1359 01:14:07,698 --> 01:14:10,534 "Doc, I got a swollen knee. I can't walk. I'm tired. 1360 01:14:10,576 --> 01:14:13,161 My memory's not working. I've seen 20 doctors," 1361 01:14:13,202 --> 01:14:15,371 and they bring in their Western blot 1362 01:14:15,414 --> 01:14:17,583 and they've got four out of five bands, 1363 01:14:17,624 --> 01:14:21,128 but your fifth band happens to be the 31 or 34, 1364 01:14:21,170 --> 01:14:23,755 they would call that a CDC negative Western blot, 1365 01:14:23,797 --> 01:14:25,966 yet you have Lyme disease. 1366 01:14:29,303 --> 01:14:30,846 - There is a vaccine, 1367 01:14:30,888 --> 01:14:35,434 but now there are reports of serious side effects. 1368 01:14:37,477 --> 01:14:40,564 - By the late 1990s, there were two companies 1369 01:14:40,606 --> 01:14:44,318 making two competing vaccines that were almost identical. 1370 01:14:44,359 --> 01:14:47,404 One of them got mired in lawsuits 1371 01:14:47,446 --> 01:14:49,573 because people claimed there were side effects, 1372 01:14:49,615 --> 01:14:54,870 and it was pulled from the market, leaving only LYMErix. 1373 01:14:54,912 --> 01:14:57,080 There were a lot of unanswered questions about LYMErix. 1374 01:14:57,121 --> 01:14:59,666 The FDA panel that passed it, 1375 01:14:59,708 --> 01:15:02,252 they said that there are a lot of unknowns here, 1376 01:15:02,294 --> 01:15:05,088 but they were passing it through anyway. 1377 01:15:05,130 --> 01:15:08,675 - The safety issue here seems to me to be very complicated 1378 01:15:08,717 --> 01:15:11,553 compared to any vaccine I know that has been licensed. 1379 01:15:11,594 --> 01:15:13,388 Those who did the trial have unearthed 1380 01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:16,225 some very interesting, sinister possibilities 1381 01:15:16,266 --> 01:15:18,143 that may or may not be real. 1382 01:15:18,184 --> 01:15:22,147 And as I said earlier, rare events will become common 1383 01:15:22,189 --> 01:15:25,025 when a million people are vaccinated. 1384 01:15:25,067 --> 01:15:27,528 - I might comment that this is fairly rare for a vaccine 1385 01:15:27,568 --> 01:15:30,112 to be voted on with so much ambivalence. 1386 01:15:30,155 --> 01:15:32,907 So that is all for the formal vote. 1387 01:15:34,117 --> 01:15:35,869 - In the years since it's been on the market, 1388 01:15:35,911 --> 01:15:37,621 600,000 people have taken it. 1389 01:15:37,663 --> 01:15:42,501 Nearly 300 adverse reactions have been reported to the FDA. 1390 01:15:42,543 --> 01:15:45,170 - Panel of experts that advises the FDA 1391 01:15:45,212 --> 01:15:47,673 found the story so compelling that it asked the agency 1392 01:15:47,714 --> 01:15:50,008 to carry out a large-scale investigation 1393 01:15:50,050 --> 01:15:52,344 of possible harmful effects of the vaccine. 1394 01:15:52,386 --> 01:15:55,681 - There was a meeting at FDA. 1395 01:15:55,722 --> 01:15:59,101 I was actually invited to go to that meeting. 1396 01:15:59,142 --> 01:16:01,645 The star witness at this FDA meeting 1397 01:16:01,687 --> 01:16:06,066 was the chief scientist for the Connaught vaccine. 1398 01:16:06,108 --> 01:16:09,027 So you got it? Like--like, there was Glaxo and Connaught. 1399 01:16:09,068 --> 01:16:11,029 Connaught pulled out. 1400 01:16:11,071 --> 01:16:14,782 He said, "Since LYMErix has been given out 1401 01:16:14,825 --> 01:16:17,160 "to so many people, 1402 01:16:17,202 --> 01:16:21,707 "we can see that there are some very severe side effects. 1403 01:16:21,748 --> 01:16:24,751 "These are not common side effects, 1404 01:16:24,793 --> 01:16:28,046 "but some of them are very bad, 1405 01:16:28,088 --> 01:16:31,341 "and I would never recommend vaccinating people 1406 01:16:31,383 --> 01:16:33,677 with this vaccine." 1407 01:16:33,719 --> 01:16:36,180 - There is no such thing as a perfect vaccine. 1408 01:16:36,221 --> 01:16:40,017 What we can say is that this vaccine is very effective, 1409 01:16:40,058 --> 01:16:42,936 and it's very well-tolerated. 1410 01:16:42,978 --> 01:16:44,271 - It's been a nightmare. 1411 01:16:44,313 --> 01:16:48,483 Prior to this, I was hunting, fishing, hiking. 1412 01:16:48,525 --> 01:16:51,528 - How much has it changed your life? 1413 01:16:51,570 --> 01:16:54,948 - I don't have a life anymore. 1414 01:16:57,451 --> 01:17:00,579 - In April, the manufacturer of a Lyme disease vaccine 1415 01:17:00,621 --> 01:17:03,248 took it off the market, citing poor sales 1416 01:17:03,290 --> 01:17:06,627 following unproven allegations of side effects. 1417 01:17:07,835 --> 01:17:11,423 - The vaccine was taken off the market in 2002. 1418 01:17:12,549 --> 01:17:16,553 We have not had a Lyme disease vaccine for 20 years, 1419 01:17:16,594 --> 01:17:20,557 and yet those two markers were not restored to the test. 1420 01:17:22,851 --> 01:17:25,812 If you were bitten by a tick tomorrow, 1421 01:17:25,853 --> 01:17:29,858 this is the test that would be used to diagnose you. 1422 01:17:33,820 --> 01:17:37,032 Many people have invested their careers 1423 01:17:37,074 --> 01:17:40,994 in this model of Lyme disease: 1424 01:17:41,036 --> 01:17:46,041 it's easy to diagnose, it's straightforward to cure. 1425 01:17:46,083 --> 01:17:49,419 And that is the story that prevails today. 1426 01:17:50,838 --> 01:17:54,007 But it's far different from where we started. 1427 01:17:54,049 --> 01:17:56,927 [building dramatic music] 1428 01:17:56,969 --> 01:18:03,976 ♪ ♪ 1429 01:18:08,272 --> 01:18:11,650 In the beginning, there was openness. 1430 01:18:11,692 --> 01:18:15,279 There was willingness to consider lots of possibilities. 1431 01:18:16,446 --> 01:18:19,950 But over time, doors closed. 1432 01:18:21,159 --> 01:18:22,702 When I went back and looked 1433 01:18:22,744 --> 01:18:26,582 at some of the early scientific literature, 1434 01:18:26,623 --> 01:18:30,043 I found a sort of familiar illness. 1435 01:18:31,962 --> 01:18:35,382 So I'm just going to read from a 1994 letter 1436 01:18:35,424 --> 01:18:37,925 by Allen Steere. 1437 01:18:37,968 --> 01:18:40,137 "It has become increasingly apparent 1438 01:18:40,179 --> 01:18:42,014 "that the Lyme disease spirochete, 1439 01:18:42,055 --> 01:18:43,639 "Borrelia burgdorferi, 1440 01:18:43,682 --> 01:18:47,186 "may persist in some patients for years. 1441 01:18:47,227 --> 01:18:50,230 "Of particular concern, recent studies have shown 1442 01:18:50,272 --> 01:18:53,192 "that the spirochete may persist in the nervous system 1443 01:18:53,233 --> 01:18:57,612 and may cause chronic neurologic involvement." 1444 01:18:57,654 --> 01:19:01,532 The word "chronic" is there a couple of times. 1445 01:19:01,575 --> 01:19:05,329 - Some of the authors who have signed on to those guidelines, 1446 01:19:05,370 --> 01:19:06,996 if you look at their published work 1447 01:19:07,039 --> 01:19:09,666 from the late '80s and early '90s, 1448 01:19:09,708 --> 01:19:14,630 their words say exactly what we say--chronic. 1449 01:19:14,671 --> 01:19:17,216 - Once you get Lyme disease, your body's immune system 1450 01:19:17,257 --> 01:19:19,092 doesn't deal with it terribly well. 1451 01:19:19,134 --> 01:19:21,719 It doesn't clear that spirochete from your body, 1452 01:19:21,762 --> 01:19:25,139 and you can be infected for virtually forever. 1453 01:19:25,182 --> 01:19:27,351 - And it's a very scary disease. 1454 01:19:27,392 --> 01:19:28,769 - It doesn't really have to be. 1455 01:19:28,809 --> 01:19:31,980 I think it's overemphasized how bad it can be. 1456 01:19:32,022 --> 01:19:34,233 With prompt treatment and recognition, 1457 01:19:34,273 --> 01:19:35,984 it's not a big deal. 1458 01:19:37,443 --> 01:19:40,364 - Another concept that has been more or less 1459 01:19:40,405 --> 01:19:43,367 brushed aside is whether a mother 1460 01:19:43,407 --> 01:19:47,037 can pass Lyme disease on to her unborn baby. 1461 01:19:47,079 --> 01:19:50,040 - It was a dramatic and frightening new development: 1462 01:19:50,082 --> 01:19:51,875 the germ that causes Lyme 1463 01:19:51,916 --> 01:19:54,169 can also travel through the placenta. 1464 01:19:54,210 --> 01:19:55,838 - On occasion, a pregnant woman 1465 01:19:55,879 --> 01:19:57,880 has been able to transmit the illness 1466 01:19:57,923 --> 01:20:01,635 to the developing child in the uterus. 1467 01:20:01,677 --> 01:20:03,846 This may have serious complications 1468 01:20:03,887 --> 01:20:05,806 for the developing child. 1469 01:20:05,848 --> 01:20:08,934 We don't know how frequently this happens at this point, 1470 01:20:08,976 --> 01:20:11,895 but it is something that we are concerned about. 1471 01:20:11,937 --> 01:20:14,857 - They did autopsies on these babies 1472 01:20:14,898 --> 01:20:17,609 and found spirochetes in their tissues, 1473 01:20:17,651 --> 01:20:20,445 in their hearts, in their lungs. 1474 01:20:20,487 --> 01:20:23,448 This was solid science. 1475 01:20:23,490 --> 01:20:26,660 But it became something that was dismissed 1476 01:20:26,702 --> 01:20:29,663 in the mainstream literature and practice. 1477 01:20:30,789 --> 01:20:34,751 They used to acknowledge that chronic Lyme disease was real. 1478 01:20:34,793 --> 01:20:37,963 They used to acknowledge congenital Lyme disease. 1479 01:20:38,755 --> 01:20:40,382 - But at a certain point in time, 1480 01:20:40,424 --> 01:20:43,218 that became dogma, that there's no such thing 1481 01:20:43,260 --> 01:20:45,179 as chronic Lyme disease, period. 1482 01:20:45,219 --> 01:20:47,306 End of story. 1483 01:20:47,347 --> 01:20:49,850 In order to qualify a vaccine, 1484 01:20:49,892 --> 01:20:53,478 it's much more helpful to have a fairly simplistic model, 1485 01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,190 where you can easily tell who has the disease 1486 01:20:56,231 --> 01:20:58,358 and who doesn't have the disease. 1487 01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,612 And furthermore, you banish the notion that the infection 1488 01:21:02,654 --> 01:21:06,407 can persist despite application of treatment. 1489 01:21:06,450 --> 01:21:09,912 If you acknowledge those biologic realities, 1490 01:21:09,952 --> 01:21:12,581 it makes it considerably more difficult 1491 01:21:12,623 --> 01:21:14,291 to qualify a vaccine. 1492 01:21:23,425 --> 01:21:26,637 - After years of research, it begs the question, 1493 01:21:26,678 --> 01:21:29,514 why is there still no vaccine people can get 1494 01:21:29,556 --> 01:21:31,975 to prevent Lyme disease? 1495 01:21:32,017 --> 01:21:33,184 - I think the time has come 1496 01:21:33,227 --> 01:21:36,396 to reconsider the decision. 1497 01:21:36,438 --> 01:21:39,608 Lyme disease is the only infection that I know of 1498 01:21:39,650 --> 01:21:42,486 for which there is an effective vaccine, 1499 01:21:42,528 --> 01:21:45,531 but it's not available to the public. 1500 01:21:46,698 --> 01:21:48,700 - And in fact, the French biotech firm 1501 01:21:48,742 --> 01:21:52,037 Valneva is testing a new vaccine 1502 01:21:52,079 --> 01:21:54,248 that is similar to LYMErix. 1503 01:21:54,289 --> 01:21:55,749 - Is this vaccine based 1504 01:21:55,791 --> 01:21:58,043 on different medicine than the old one? 1505 01:21:58,085 --> 01:22:00,754 - No, actually, it's quite similar to the old vaccine. 1506 01:22:00,796 --> 01:22:02,339 They did change it a little bit. 1507 01:22:02,380 --> 01:22:04,550 They removed a protein which they thought 1508 01:22:04,591 --> 01:22:06,343 may have been causing some health problems. 1509 01:22:06,385 --> 01:22:09,096 But we now know that the old vaccine 1510 01:22:09,137 --> 01:22:11,557 actually doesn't cause any health problems. 1511 01:22:11,598 --> 01:22:14,559 [inquisitive music] 1512 01:22:14,601 --> 01:22:15,894 ♪ ♪ 1513 01:22:15,936 --> 01:22:17,938 - There are so many conspiracy theories 1514 01:22:17,980 --> 01:22:19,606 swirling around the public, 1515 01:22:19,648 --> 01:22:21,817 like the anti-vaxxers, right? 1516 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,446 And I think what happens with Lyme disease 1517 01:22:26,487 --> 01:22:29,867 is that it gets swept up into all of that, 1518 01:22:29,907 --> 01:22:33,036 when in fact, in this situation, 1519 01:22:33,077 --> 01:22:36,290 we're not talking about a conspiracy. 1520 01:22:37,249 --> 01:22:41,420 We're talking about flawed science, 1521 01:22:41,460 --> 01:22:43,880 science that has been reinvented 1522 01:22:43,922 --> 01:22:46,633 to facilitate products. 1523 01:22:48,594 --> 01:22:52,097 - It would be great if we had a vaccine 1524 01:22:52,139 --> 01:22:54,516 that was effective and safe. 1525 01:22:54,558 --> 01:22:58,437 But that's not gonna solve our problem of ticks. 1526 01:22:58,478 --> 01:23:01,440 And moreover, we can protect ourselves from Lyme disease, 1527 01:23:01,481 --> 01:23:05,318 but there's other things, as we know, in ticks. 1528 01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:09,865 We need a vaccine that would attack all of these illnesses. 1529 01:23:09,907 --> 01:23:15,412 An anti-tick vaccine really would be the ideal approach. 1530 01:23:15,454 --> 01:23:19,625 But beyond that, we have this other elephant in the room. 1531 01:23:19,666 --> 01:23:22,544 We have the many, many people, 1532 01:23:22,585 --> 01:23:26,632 year after year, who remain sick. 1533 01:23:28,467 --> 01:23:31,136 - This is a hard problem. 1534 01:23:31,178 --> 01:23:33,680 The way to resolve it, 1535 01:23:33,722 --> 01:23:37,518 it's not to make everything so simple and so cut and dry. 1536 01:23:37,559 --> 01:23:41,188 It is to really look at the nuance. 1537 01:23:41,230 --> 01:23:42,981 I really did come to believe, 1538 01:23:43,023 --> 01:23:45,943 after all of this research and investigation, 1539 01:23:45,984 --> 01:23:50,656 that the definition of Lyme disease had been twisted 1540 01:23:50,697 --> 01:23:54,952 to accommodate the passage of that vaccine. 1541 01:23:54,993 --> 01:23:57,162 It was a business interest. 1542 01:23:57,204 --> 01:24:00,999 It was a rationalization in the interest of a product 1543 01:24:01,041 --> 01:24:03,043 but not the patient. 1544 01:24:15,931 --> 01:24:17,391 [elevator bell dings] 1545 01:24:19,518 --> 01:24:22,521 [indistinct chatter] 1546 01:24:30,571 --> 01:24:33,866 - I want you to look at that. - Yeah. 1547 01:24:33,907 --> 01:24:35,951 - This is your brain stem. - Yes. 1548 01:24:35,993 --> 01:24:39,746 - This is responsible for balance, 1549 01:24:39,788 --> 01:24:43,541 for swallowing, for breathing, for heart rate. 1550 01:24:44,751 --> 01:24:47,462 This very tip of the brain right here 1551 01:24:47,504 --> 01:24:49,255 is your motor strip. 1552 01:24:49,298 --> 01:24:51,758 It starts with your hips and your legs. 1553 01:24:54,344 --> 01:24:57,139 Okay. So look. 1554 01:24:59,141 --> 01:25:01,059 Gray. - Yeah. 1555 01:25:01,101 --> 01:25:03,896 - Orange, purple, white, that's healthy. 1556 01:25:03,937 --> 01:25:07,773 - Okay. - These colors are damaged. 1557 01:25:07,816 --> 01:25:09,985 Number five is black. 1558 01:25:10,027 --> 01:25:12,279 - Yeah. - See the black? 1559 01:25:12,321 --> 01:25:14,615 You have a lot of damage to it. 1560 01:25:14,656 --> 01:25:17,534 You can't even see your brain stem. 1561 01:25:17,576 --> 01:25:21,079 Your brain stem is completely black. 1562 01:25:21,121 --> 01:25:26,710 Your motor strip, sensory, all black. 1563 01:25:26,752 --> 01:25:28,420 That's why you can't move your legs. 1564 01:25:28,462 --> 01:25:30,589 That's why you can't feel your legs. 1565 01:25:32,966 --> 01:25:34,968 [choking up] You have your answer today. 1566 01:25:36,844 --> 01:25:38,514 - So I'm not going crazy? 1567 01:25:38,555 --> 01:25:40,516 - You're not going crazy. 1568 01:25:44,811 --> 01:25:47,189 Dr. Shroff said 1569 01:25:47,231 --> 01:25:52,736 that without treatment for Lyme, this gets worse, 1570 01:25:52,778 --> 01:25:56,031 and pretty soon, you would have lost everything. 1571 01:25:58,075 --> 01:26:01,827 Three years of treatment, and I keep questioning myself 1572 01:26:01,870 --> 01:26:04,665 if I'm doing the right thing. 1573 01:26:04,706 --> 01:26:06,625 We've been doing the right thing. 1574 01:26:06,666 --> 01:26:08,460 We've been keeping it at bay. 1575 01:26:08,502 --> 01:26:11,463 What did you tell me today during your MRI? 1576 01:26:11,505 --> 01:26:13,549 You said, "Why do we have to do this again? 1577 01:26:13,590 --> 01:26:15,550 They're not gonna find anything." 1578 01:26:15,592 --> 01:26:17,511 See? You found something. 1579 01:26:17,553 --> 01:26:20,514 This is why you have the issues you have. 1580 01:26:20,556 --> 01:26:22,349 Look. They're right there. 1581 01:26:22,391 --> 01:26:23,392 That's damage. 1582 01:26:25,686 --> 01:26:27,437 You're not going crazy. 1583 01:26:27,478 --> 01:26:30,440 [tense music] 1584 01:26:30,482 --> 01:26:37,489 ♪ ♪ 1585 01:26:46,331 --> 01:26:49,293 [somber music] 1586 01:26:49,334 --> 01:26:52,087 ♪ ♪ 1587 01:26:52,129 --> 01:26:54,380 Julia and I initially were supposed to be in India 1588 01:26:54,423 --> 01:26:55,591 for three months. 1589 01:26:59,178 --> 01:27:02,806 But the clinic shut down, and we were forced to leave. 1590 01:27:08,853 --> 01:27:10,647 Unfortunately, the stem cells really didn't 1591 01:27:10,689 --> 01:27:12,773 change that much. 1592 01:27:12,816 --> 01:27:14,359 A lot of letdowns. 1593 01:27:14,401 --> 01:27:16,820 But if we want to get Julia better, 1594 01:27:16,862 --> 01:27:19,323 we have to give trust. 1595 01:27:19,364 --> 01:27:20,782 We have to try. 1596 01:27:20,824 --> 01:27:23,785 [hopeful music] 1597 01:27:23,827 --> 01:27:26,746 ♪ ♪ 1598 01:27:26,788 --> 01:27:29,458 We long for her to walk. 1599 01:27:29,499 --> 01:27:31,919 [indistinct chatter] 1600 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,254 I would like to see her dance with her friends. 1601 01:27:34,296 --> 01:27:35,923 I'd like to dance with her. 1602 01:27:38,133 --> 01:27:42,888 It's the simplest things that we take for granted every day 1603 01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:45,474 that I pray for with Julia. 1604 01:27:45,516 --> 01:27:47,809 - My legs hurt. 1605 01:27:47,851 --> 01:27:49,686 - But we'll get there. [sniffles] 1606 01:27:49,728 --> 01:27:51,438 We'll get there slowly. 1607 01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:53,857 And I think when we do get there, 1608 01:27:53,898 --> 01:27:56,235 it's gonna be very rewarding. 1609 01:28:04,243 --> 01:28:07,246 [indistinct chatter] 1610 01:28:10,749 --> 01:28:12,918 - Let's have a round of applause once again 1611 01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:14,545 for Julia Rose. 1612 01:28:14,585 --> 01:28:17,965 [cheers and applause] 1613 01:28:18,005 --> 01:28:20,592 - The 16th candle, I've been told, 1614 01:28:20,634 --> 01:28:24,847 is for your greatest love, or even your hero. 1615 01:28:24,888 --> 01:28:28,642 When I thought about who that one person was, 1616 01:28:28,684 --> 01:28:31,019 one person came to mind. 1617 01:28:31,061 --> 01:28:33,230 And that was you, Dad. 1618 01:28:34,898 --> 01:28:38,568 Dad, the greatest doctors in the world 1619 01:28:38,610 --> 01:28:41,737 weren't able to figure out what was wrong with me, 1620 01:28:41,780 --> 01:28:44,074 but you were. 1621 01:28:44,116 --> 01:28:47,536 Without you, I'm afraid I wouldn't be here today, 1622 01:28:47,577 --> 01:28:49,955 giving you guys a speech. 1623 01:28:49,996 --> 01:28:52,583 [cheers and applause] 1624 01:28:52,624 --> 01:28:57,045 Thank you for holding my hand through every blood test, 1625 01:28:57,087 --> 01:28:58,964 every scary procedure, 1626 01:28:59,005 --> 01:29:01,508 and every single hard time. 1627 01:29:02,759 --> 01:29:05,387 You are my hero, my greatest love, 1628 01:29:05,429 --> 01:29:07,681 and my biggest inspiration. 1629 01:29:10,726 --> 01:29:13,937 My idea of a miracle has definitely changed. 1630 01:29:13,978 --> 01:29:16,273 - Holy Father! 1631 01:29:16,315 --> 01:29:18,442 - That day, I asked for a miracle, 1632 01:29:18,483 --> 01:29:21,904 and my miracle, in my mind, was getting up from the chair 1633 01:29:21,945 --> 01:29:23,655 and walking and going back to that life 1634 01:29:23,697 --> 01:29:27,951 of normalcy and dancing, and-- and it is still. 1635 01:29:27,993 --> 01:29:30,495 That's--you know, that would be a miracle. 1636 01:29:30,537 --> 01:29:32,414 But I think miracles happen every day. 1637 01:29:32,456 --> 01:29:35,584 I think that me sitting here talking to you is a miracle. 1638 01:29:36,502 --> 01:29:38,629 What happened to me and the reaching out 1639 01:29:38,670 --> 01:29:41,130 and the love, that's a miracle. 1640 01:29:41,173 --> 01:29:43,133 [applause] 1641 01:29:43,175 --> 01:29:45,636 And I think we don't even realize it. 1642 01:29:45,677 --> 01:29:49,223 The little things every day that we have are miracles. 1643 01:29:50,516 --> 01:29:53,852 all: ♪ Hey, baby, ooh, ah ♪ 1644 01:29:53,894 --> 01:29:55,687 ♪ I want to know ♪ 1645 01:29:59,900 --> 01:30:02,693 [cheers and applause] 1646 01:30:06,406 --> 01:30:08,700 - It's funny, people ask me all the time, 1647 01:30:08,742 --> 01:30:13,830 "Are you angry that you weren't diagnosed early on 1648 01:30:13,871 --> 01:30:16,750 and you could have avoided all of this?" 1649 01:30:18,710 --> 01:30:22,880 And I tell them I'm actually not angry. 1650 01:30:28,344 --> 01:30:31,974 I would certainly never wish what I went through on anyone. 1651 01:30:32,014 --> 01:30:33,517 But, you know, in some sense, 1652 01:30:33,559 --> 01:30:37,103 I feel like it was part of the bigger plan for me. 1653 01:30:39,940 --> 01:30:43,777 Wasn't always pleasant, but you know what? 1654 01:30:43,818 --> 01:30:47,155 There's been so many good things about what I've gone through. 1655 01:30:54,580 --> 01:30:58,375 Whether I live five hours, five days, 1656 01:30:58,416 --> 01:31:00,835 50 months, or 50 years, 1657 01:31:00,878 --> 01:31:03,213 it's got to be, like, a fulfilling life. 1658 01:31:04,590 --> 01:31:10,262 I mean, I can't look back and regret not having done things. 1659 01:31:10,304 --> 01:31:13,264 [atmospheric music] 1660 01:31:13,307 --> 01:31:19,228 ♪ ♪ 1661 01:31:25,943 --> 01:31:29,156 Happy belated New Year. 1662 01:31:29,198 --> 01:31:30,949 People have asked me if everything's okay. 1663 01:31:30,991 --> 01:31:32,534 They hadn't heard from me in a while. 1664 01:31:32,576 --> 01:31:35,996 And I just wanted to send this message. 1665 01:31:36,038 --> 01:31:38,165 You know, I may look tired. I am pretty tired. 1666 01:31:38,207 --> 01:31:43,295 I think I need to conserve my energy for the push ahead. 1667 01:31:45,672 --> 01:31:48,175 I made a promise to all of you 1668 01:31:48,217 --> 01:31:51,929 that I would continue to work tirelessly. 1669 01:31:51,969 --> 01:31:54,473 I will continue to honor that promise, 1670 01:31:54,514 --> 01:31:56,558 and my thoughts and prayers are with all of you. 1671 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,227 So take care. 1672 01:31:58,268 --> 01:32:01,230 [soft dramatic music] 1673 01:32:01,271 --> 01:32:08,278 ♪ ♪ 1674 01:32:25,212 --> 01:32:28,257 I've taken care of people at the prime of their lives, 1675 01:32:28,298 --> 01:32:30,425 great jobs, beautiful families, 1676 01:32:30,467 --> 01:32:32,052 devastating cancers. 1677 01:32:32,094 --> 01:32:34,429 Like, "Why did this happen to me?" 1678 01:32:34,471 --> 01:32:36,223 I mean, that's the universal question, 1679 01:32:36,264 --> 01:32:38,100 "Why did this happen to me?" 1680 01:32:40,102 --> 01:32:43,313 My grandmother used to say to me, "Why not you? 1681 01:32:43,355 --> 01:32:45,023 Why shouldn't it happen to you?" 1682 01:32:48,110 --> 01:32:51,362 The question is not, "Why?" but, "How do you move beyond it?" 1683 01:33:22,644 --> 01:33:26,356 [hopeful music] 1684 01:33:26,398 --> 01:33:28,442 - I think about the people who have died 1685 01:33:28,483 --> 01:33:30,235 and that are dying 1686 01:33:30,277 --> 01:33:34,114 and the people who are alone, and I feel very guilty, 1687 01:33:34,156 --> 01:33:36,325 because I'm getting all this help, 1688 01:33:36,366 --> 01:33:38,243 and these people need help too. 1689 01:33:39,702 --> 01:33:41,830 I feel like I'm obligated to do this 1690 01:33:41,871 --> 01:33:45,375 and that this needs to happen in order for there to be a change. 1691 01:33:46,919 --> 01:33:49,546 I was a different person before Lyme, 1692 01:33:49,588 --> 01:33:51,715 a normal girl. 1693 01:33:51,757 --> 01:33:54,425 Now is the time for action. 1694 01:33:54,468 --> 01:33:57,387 We must stand together as one. 1695 01:33:57,429 --> 01:33:59,889 For the people suffering right now, 1696 01:33:59,932 --> 01:34:02,643 let us be their voice. 1697 01:34:02,684 --> 01:34:04,978 For the people we have lost, 1698 01:34:05,020 --> 01:34:08,232 let us grieve them and fight in their memory. 1699 01:34:08,273 --> 01:34:10,234 I'm determined to bring about change, 1700 01:34:10,275 --> 01:34:13,445 and I trust that together, we can bring hope 1701 01:34:13,487 --> 01:34:16,031 to those who have forgotten the meaning of the word. 1702 01:34:19,243 --> 01:34:22,037 My mind is there, but my body isn't yet. 1703 01:34:22,079 --> 01:34:24,414 But I'm determined, even if I am in a wheelchair 1704 01:34:24,456 --> 01:34:27,334 and I am sick, 1705 01:34:27,376 --> 01:34:29,837 I want to help more people. 1706 01:34:45,143 --> 01:34:46,687 - You can't give up. 1707 01:34:46,728 --> 01:34:48,897 Because if it was you, your family, 1708 01:34:48,939 --> 01:34:52,901 you can't just turn people away and say there's no hope. 1709 01:34:52,943 --> 01:34:54,820 People are contacting me all the time, 1710 01:34:54,862 --> 01:34:56,822 from all over the world. 1711 01:34:58,657 --> 01:35:00,157 I need to share this information 1712 01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,244 because this is a worldwide epidemic. 1713 01:35:03,327 --> 01:35:05,664 - The whole world is in disastrous situation 1714 01:35:05,706 --> 01:35:08,709 because of the position 1715 01:35:08,750 --> 01:35:10,460 of a small group of experts 1716 01:35:10,502 --> 01:35:12,004 at the IDSA 1717 01:35:12,045 --> 01:35:13,255 in the United States of America, 1718 01:35:13,297 --> 01:35:16,175 because they made recommendations, 1719 01:35:16,216 --> 01:35:19,594 and it was imposed to the whole world. 1720 01:35:21,889 --> 01:35:27,186 - So here we are in the midst of a huge epidemic. 1721 01:35:27,227 --> 01:35:29,688 We've all come to an understanding 1722 01:35:29,730 --> 01:35:33,066 of what this can mean in our everyday lives. 1723 01:35:34,318 --> 01:35:37,029 In the case of COVID, we are accepting 1724 01:35:37,070 --> 01:35:40,157 that there is something called long-haul. 1725 01:35:40,199 --> 01:35:44,494 The difference is, they are being taken seriously. 1726 01:35:44,536 --> 01:35:48,457 But Lyme disease has been this quiet epidemic 1727 01:35:48,498 --> 01:35:50,334 for decades. 1728 01:35:52,710 --> 01:35:57,382 We all have to realize that we're at risk. 1729 01:35:57,424 --> 01:36:02,387 This is a growing and common threat. 1730 01:36:03,764 --> 01:36:05,599 And yet for too long, 1731 01:36:05,641 --> 01:36:07,809 the problem has been minimized. 1732 01:36:09,561 --> 01:36:15,651 Settling this debate is going to require new researchers, 1733 01:36:15,692 --> 01:36:17,361 new science. 1734 01:36:18,820 --> 01:36:22,115 We need new ideas about Lyme disease 1735 01:36:22,157 --> 01:36:24,493 and people who are willing... 1736 01:36:26,870 --> 01:36:29,456 To challenge the old guard. 1737 01:37:32,436 --> 01:37:35,272 - Right by my tweezer, that's a larva, 1738 01:37:35,314 --> 01:37:37,191 and it's fully engorged. 1739 01:37:37,232 --> 01:37:40,027 It's probably going to drop off today. 1740 01:37:40,068 --> 01:37:42,237 The fully engorged larvae look like poppy seeds. 1741 01:37:42,279 --> 01:37:44,781 One larva, right ear. One larva, left ear. 1742 01:37:57,878 --> 01:38:01,048 - We have an early warning in your health this morning. 1743 01:38:01,089 --> 01:38:06,469 - Scientists predict this could be the worst Lyme disease season in years. 127463

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