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alright which of these do you think is
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the digital amp and which is the real
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amp
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all right what's up guys Jordan here so
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my course members for a while now have
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been asking me about digital amps amps
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in plugins and they've been asking for
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my recommendations you know and and how
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to work with them and to be honest for a
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long time I didn't really have a good
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answer because I had not really
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experienced a really great sounding amps
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in plug-in that I felt comfortable
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saying you know yeah I would use this on
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a real record it's just I just hadn't
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found anything yet but I recently
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started playing around with the
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archetype nolle plug-in from neural DSP
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and no I'm not getting paid to do this
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video or anything like that I bought
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this plug-in with my own money and I'm
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gonna let you know what I think of it in
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this video and show you some a B
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examples and let you know whether or not
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this thing is the real deal so let me
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jump in I'll show you what I've been
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doing with it how I've been testing it
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and I'll start with this example from
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the track I just showed you so again I
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said which one do you think is the
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neural DSP plug-in the nollie plug-in
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and which one is the real amp that I
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recorded so let me do a quick a B again
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here
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the other one
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let's check another section
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of course section I'll solo at this time
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all right so I don't know what you
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guessed but in all those examples the
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first one so the a version was the
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knurled ESP plug-in the B version was an
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actual amp and cab that are recorded so
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what I recorded in this session here
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I'll play it for you
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that's a regional 5150 into a Meza 2 by
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12 cabinet with vintage 30 speakers
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miked with a single sm57 and so I tried
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to kind of mimic it with this nalli plug
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in here and man I'll tell you when I
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first fired this plug-in up with the
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5150 and I had my guitar plugged in I
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started playing as like wow this
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actually sounds like a real amp it
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sounds like a 5150 especially when I put
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the knobs where I would usually put the
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knobs it sounds like what I would expect
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so again I'll just flip back and forth
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this one that's currently soloed is the
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real amp and then this one over here is
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the Denali plugin so let's go back and
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forth here
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so obviously it's not exactly the same
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tone I don't think you can ever really
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take a real amp that you've recorded and
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then completely duplicate the tone in a
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different plugin
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but what I've been doing is in this
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session in other sessions I'm going to
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show you is I've been going to these
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these ryoga's Hart amp tracks that I've
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recorded and trying to mimic it and get
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the same basic character the same flavor
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the same essence of the guitar tone with
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this plug-in and the results have been
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pretty cool so again even in solo when
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you're flipping back is not the exact
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same tone that's not ever gonna happen
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but when we listen in the context of the
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mix it's kind of hard to say that one is
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better than the other so again let's
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listen with the plug-in
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really
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go to another part
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was the nollie plugin and here's the
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real amp
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so again I'm using the 5150 model here
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they don't specify what it is but it's
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clear looking at it that that's what it
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is
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and then I ended up using the second cab
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version here again I have no idea what
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the cab models here are they don't they
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don't specify but just a single item 57
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played around with the positioning and
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then also use kind of a tubescreamer
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style overdrive here into it again just
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the exact same way I would have recorded
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these guitars in the studio so to me
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that came pretty darn close in fact
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again the tones are different when we
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flip back and forth but I would say just
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listening to this in the context of the
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mix I would be comfortable using the
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tone from this nollie plug-in in in
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place of the real amp tone that I had
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they're different but it's not like one
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is worse and one is better or one is
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obviously digital and one is obviously
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not to me I can't tell that difference
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so there's like a heavy example a kind
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of metalcore example let me flip to
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another session and I'll show you
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something that's more of a rock tone
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okay so this is my mixed session for a
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silverstein song off their six record
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it's called California so let me play
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you kind of the original mix as it was
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with the real amps on the rhythm guitars
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all right so I'll mute those rhythm
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guitars the originals and then go to my
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digital version with the nolle plugin
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let's say let's hear that
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again quick a bee
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that's the real amps here's the digital
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and that is pretty darn close let's hear
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it in solo
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that's the nollie plug-in here's the
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amps I recorded
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so again is the tone exactly matched no
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it'sit's modeling a different amp when
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it's been modded different cabs stuff
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like that but the essence is there like
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in the context of the mix it's like it's
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the same characters it's accomplishing
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the same thing and I think it sounds
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great so this time I'm using the this
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head here which is basically modeled
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after jcm800 got some slight mods and
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differences and whatever but it's
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basically a jcm800 and the reason I
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really love this plug-in is because when
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I had my projects to do and I was
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tracking bands day in and day out I had
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two amps that I owned for my studio it
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was a 5150 and a jcm800 and those
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covered the bases from heavy stuff
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hardcore stuff rock metal to pop punk
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and pop rock and stuff like this with
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with the jcm800 so with these two amps
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which I always ran through my Mesa to
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buy 12 cab I could pretty much get tones
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for 95% or probably 99% of the records
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that I was working on so the fact that
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these two amps are modeled inside this
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plug-in is perfect for me because again
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these are like my go-to tones and I
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think it does a great job of doing the
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high gain tones at the 5150 and even
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this model too but even more of the
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lower gain kind of crunchy tones it's
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doing a great job at that as well so
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let's just check this out one more time
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here we'll go to the course
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this is the plugin
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this is the real amp
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sounds awesome to me so that was the
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second thing I tried out after the 5150
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I was like alright let's go check out
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the 800 and man this is this is really
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doing the job that my 800 used to do as
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you can hear in this session so let's go
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to another example
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alright so now this is a session for the
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intervals record one of them that I
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recorded and mixed this is the song
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ephemeral but the session I've loaded up
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here is not the final mix session it's
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like the working session it's basically
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with kind of like before I you know did
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everything in the mix it's just the raw
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tracks pretty much so I tried to kind of
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again mimic the rhythm tone from this
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record and it's a lot different than
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then kind of the other tones that I just
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showed you but it was still actually it
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was within axe-fx so we're not even
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using the same amp here but let's check
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out let's see what we dialed in with the
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5150 rig here so actually let me show
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you the original tone first this is what
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we actually tracked what's on the record
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made me get the lead guitar so we can
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hear that better
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so that's the turn on the record here's
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the tone with the nollie plugin
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I'll go back and forth again here's the
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real one and then the next one will be
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the plugin
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it's a plugin
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let's check out that first section again
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and a B again we'll start with the
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axe-fx and then go to the plugin
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oh man again even with again that was an
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axe of X and this is a completely
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different rake here and the plug in both
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digital amps but man we got it sounding
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pretty close again so use the 5150 again
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this time but a lot different settings
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here vastly different than the first
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example I showed you using a different
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cap as well but we got pretty close to
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that tone and again it sounds pro it's
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not the exact same but it's it's in the
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same ballpark cuz it's reaching the same
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bar I guess of what I would consider man
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this this sounds like a solid guitar
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tone that I would use in the mix without
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having to mangle it with a bunch of EQ
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and stuff afterwards like this is just
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coming out straight out of the plugin so
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I did that and I thought okay what about
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the lead tone so again here's the lead
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tone I came up with for this intervals
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track using the delay that's built into
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this plug-in here
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so that's the plugin here's the original
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tone that actually recorded
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plug in again
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so that's great as well it's passing
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every test to me let's I'm gonna show
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you one other one that's kind of a
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completely different different tone more
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of a grungy indie rock tone so let me
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load up another session here all right
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here we go so this one's completely
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different so let me play for you the
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again just the original mix here
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so pretty cool like dirty indie rock
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tone here that was the real amp that I
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recorded actually don't remember which
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amp this was it was probably the jcm800
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though and then here's what I got out of
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the nollie plugin
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it's just as cool let me be one more
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time
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this is the plugin
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see if I recorded
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this is the recording again the real amp
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is the plugin now on second thought
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maybe I'm wrong the original tonette
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recorder here it might not have been 800
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it might have been like a smaller ant
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maybe a fender or something that we
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tried to drive really hard
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I honestly can't remember but in the
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nollie plug in here I decided to try and
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experiment with the first amp the one
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that's on the left here and I actually
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again I don't know what this exactly is
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modeled after but cranked the gain up a
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little bit fool around get the master
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the output gain cranked up here and then
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using the second version of the
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overdrive pedal to shape the tone a
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little bit and add some more boost I was
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able to get a pretty similar kind of
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dirty grungy tone let's hear it
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here's the original again
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to me even though the tones are
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different when we listen to the mix one
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more a be here's the plugin
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[Music]
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it's got the same character it's doing
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the same thing in the mix so look those
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are just a few examples for you of the
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tones that I've been dallying in I've
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been having fun not only just actually
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playing with my guitar here through the
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amps but loading up a lot of my old
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mixes like this and trying to get close
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to the tones I got out of my real amps
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and let me tell you I think this is the
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real deal this is the best amps and
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plug-in that I have personally tested
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and used to this date and it's probably
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the first time that I downloaded an AM
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sim plug-in to try it out and load it up
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and instantly thought oh wow this this
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could actually work and it does work so
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I definitely recommend it I've created a
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pack of presets for you guys so all of
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the settings that I just showed you
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including this dirty rock tome the
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California Silverstein tone the
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intervals tone the original one that's
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called kingdoms rhythm here the first
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one that I showed you and also some some
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other tones a pop crunch tone again with
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the 800 and then it did like a pop punk
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tone with the 800 and these are all
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meant to mimic the go-to tones and rigs
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that I had in the studio on a bunch of
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different records the Silverstein
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intervals counterparts all sorts of
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bands like that neck deep and I think
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you guys will be just as impressed with
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this so if you don't have this plug-in
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already definitely check out the trial
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of it if you're a member of one of my
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courses so the pro production system or
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hardcore tracking hardcore mixing if you
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are an actual member of those courses
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check out your email because I'm going
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to be sending you a special offer to get
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this plugin not because there's any
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incentive for me but just because I
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really believe that this is the amp sim
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plug-in that you want to be using if
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you're not recording really amps so big
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props to
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knurl DSP and for nolle on what they did
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on this plugin sounds awesome I'm really
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really happy with it and I think I'm
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gonna be using this thing a lot going
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forward so click the link in the
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description if you want to download my
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preset pack to get all these settings
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that I just showed you and a few more
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check out the plug-in let me know what
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you think in the comments and that we'll
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see you again soon24808
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