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I have some good news, for everyone:
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cinema is in crisis.
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Which is hardly news, in a way,
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for it has continuously been in crisis
throughout its existence.
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It is not a sign of future danger either -
the future is an enigma,
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and it takes a lot of irresponsibility
to speculate about it,
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to pretend to decipher its mysteries -
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but rather that of a seismographic
sensibility to the stakes of the present.
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I think there is no other symptom
more relevant to an art's vitality
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than its constant reappraisal,
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in accordance with the constant
reformulation of our world.
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The real issue would be to know
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whether the forces
that transform the world
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are the same forces
that transform the arts,
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how both feed on one another,
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unless they are contradictory.
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It seems to me that another
question arises today as well,
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which, in its own way, parasitizes
the other two, muddies the waters,
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and obscures our reading of cinema
and its place in its own history:
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the nature of the reflection
determining our gaze
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and the way in which this reflection
is structured.
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Historically, that is to say, since
the middle of the history of cinema,
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its modern age,
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the tools of cinephillia
have defined this framework,
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which was conceived by André Bazin,
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himself a product of Jacques Maritain's
Social Christianity.
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Its success and relevance
are due to the fact
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that it was adopted by a generation
of young filmmakers,
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those of the Nouvelle Vague,
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for whom theoretical writing
was the foundation of their practice.
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Reflection and action
were two poles of a dialectic
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that would become the key
to our understanding of cinema,
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its singularities
as well as its paradoxes.
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Forgive me for going back so far in time,
more than half a century,
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in order to deal with
the current state of cinema,
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but the problem of time seems vital to me
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when trying to understand
where we are exactly.
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This is why we should
begin by asking ourselves
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both the question of what this
original cinephilia is exactly
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and what its alternative might have been.
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I postulate, rightly or wrongly,
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that any reflection on cinema
is consciously or unconsciously
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based on the ambiguous nature
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of cinema's relationship
with the other arts.
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And, consequently, with their theory.
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From the earliest days of cinema,
a contrast existed
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between the proponents of a cinema
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in line with the synchronous history
of the avant-garde on the one hand
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and the proponents of its intrinsic
bastardism on the other -
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torn between popular literature
and symbolist imagery.
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André Bazin and Cahiers du cinéma,
for their part,
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chose to examine praxis and to build
an essentialist bubble out of it.
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Cinema was, as it were, elsewhere,
unrelated to the old issues.
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The various Nouvelles Vagues
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that spread through the world
federated around this approach.
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At the center of it all was the question
of filming and the ethics of filming,
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and the freedom of the auteur,
which allowed all idiosyncrasies.
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But from the beginning of the 1960s,
and more extremely afterwards,
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this cinephilia was doubly cornered:
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by the repressed relationship
with the visual arts -
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Jean-Luc Godard made this
the center of his work -
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and the sociopolitical
evolution of the world,
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which was shaken up by the youth movement
that materialized in France in May '68
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and in the United States
in the Summer of Love of 1967.
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Put simply,
the relationship with the visual arts
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questioned the form of modern cinema,
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its relationship
with figuration and narration,
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while the upheaval that swept across
contemporary societies
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questioned the place or even
the legitimacy of the auteur.
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Everything that seemed clear
became blurred;
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everything the new cinema
had been built on
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was consequently called into question,
even by its main artisans.
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This profound and insoluble question
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of whether or not cinema
is part of the visual arts
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left its mark on me personally.
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Is cinema the "seventh art,"
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a term that is often used
without really understanding it,
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or is it something other than an art,
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perhaps even the philosopher's stone
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that the 20th-century avant-gardes
were searching for,
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the 'sublation of the arts,'
in the Hegelian sense of the term.
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Cinema as an art, indeed,
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but one that would possess the power
to look at the other arts,
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to solve the mysteries
of the representation of the world,
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in short, to perform the miracle of
the reproduction of perception as a whole,
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the access to which
haunts the history of painting -
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Turner similarly solved the search
for movement by way of abstraction.
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I often think of what Ingmar Bergman
said about Tarkovsky
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moving freely through spaces
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whose doors he himself
had knocked on his entire life.
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In this sense,
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I have always been confused by
the misunderstandings sparked off
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by the distinction
between experimental cinema,
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heir to the early-ZOth-century Dadaists
Hans Richter, et cetera,
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and Surrealist endeavors,
Man Ray, Bunuel...
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and the narrative cinema
that established itself very early on
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as popular entertainment,
gradually winning its spurs.
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Venom and Eternity
by the founder of Lettrism, Isidore lsou,
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should in my opinion be regarded
as the harbinger of the Nouvelle Vague.
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And, on the other side of the Atlantic,
a similar break
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brought about by a generation
of experimental filmmakers
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who challenged everything
that came before them,
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Kenneth Anger, Andy Warhol, Jonas Mekas,
Stan Brakhage or John Cassavetes,
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was the basis of the free cinema to come,
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of New Hollywood, if you like.
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Especially in terms of the formal
reformulation of cinema's aesthetics,
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which far less affected
the Nouvelle Vague.
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Through superimposition
and black magic (Anger),
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abstraction (Brakhage),
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a diaristic style (Mekas),
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dramaturgy and the status
of the actor (Cassavetes),
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or the use of the zoom
as a reinvention of the fixed shot,
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liberated from the static
camera obscura (Warhol),
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it is not the syntax but the very texture
of cinema that is at stake.
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I, for my part, regard cinema as a whole:
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narrative cinema has always
fed on experimental works
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just as the latter
have always been inspired
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by the limits or deadlocks of figuration.
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What I mean is that there is
some Brakhage in Michael Bay
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and some Warhol
in Fassbinder or Almodévar.
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At the heart of these matters,
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as is often the case when it comes
to questioning the contemporary,
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is the work of Jean-Luc Godard,
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initially a product
of classical cinephilia
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and haunted until sundown
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by his questioning of and by the doubt
eating away at this same cinephilia,
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the knot of suffering that has
defined his art for a long time now.
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Theory is thought in motion,
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thought in its capacity to take hold -
including in strategic terms -
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of the issues of a present
that is constantly redefined.
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At what point, when exactly,
did cinema cease to be thought?
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When did it lose the vital, essential link
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between the practice of an art
and its reflection?
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I fear that many irresistible forces
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have contributed to what I continue to
perceive as the failure of a generation.
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First of all, I would say that cinema
has been the victim of its own prestige,
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and (auteur) theory of
its international success,
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which has opened wide
the doors of the academy.
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As soon as film thought
became an academic discipline,
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it became fixed; it ceased to be
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the continuation of filmmakers'
material and practical concerns.
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Who, today, is seriously interested
in how lenses transform space,
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particularly by the long focal lengths
specific to modern cinema?
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Who wonders
about the monocular perspective
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as a limit to cinema's
reproduction of the real?
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Or, again, who explores the disparity
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between the open, free field
of novel or modern-theater writing
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and the narrow limits of the conventions
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governing the work
of committees and commissions
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holding the power of life and death
over cinematographic works?
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Not to mention series,
whose standard-bearers seem all too happy
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to have a go at applying the tissue
of conventions and platitudes
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from American screenwriting textbooks.
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What I am getting at is the point
when living theory becomes dead ideology.
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In the hands of university professors,
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who see it as a chance to add
a touch of modernity to their teaching,
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thought in motion becomes a doxa,
an assemblage of rules, of automatisms,
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no longer based on anything
since we have forgotten their very source,
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the source of youth,
of the most spontaneous poetry.
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If I wanted to take my reflection
another step further
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and be more provocative
than I wish to be in this context,
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I would say that it is time, today,
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to seriously, and responsibly,
confront the failure of cinephilia.
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I do not mean to cast doubt
on its achievements,
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nor on its critical importance within
20th-century thinking about the image:
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it is of paramount importance.
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But the very success
of this treasure of film history
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should open our eyes and force us to admit
that it is a moment of cinema,
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that this moment is long past because
it no longer produces anything new,
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if not a form of tetany
resulting in the idea
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that the totality of cinema would have
been thought in the era of 1960s modernity
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and of classical cinema before that,
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and that the only thing left for us today
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is to be satisfied
with the values and tools
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of an ironic,
or rather non-duped postmodernity,
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if not lapsing into baroque grotesques.
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What I mean is that in a world
of proliferating images, of all kinds,
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we cannot but notice the fragility
of the place of cinephile thought,
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which has become a fall-back position,
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whereas, until recently, it was
still at the center of the debate.
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Once its great principles
had been acquired,
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once film had been recognized
as a legitimate object of study,
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once its auteur had gained the prestige
that was formerly reserved
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for those practicing older
and more serious disciplines,
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once its legitimacy had been recognized to
be halfway between high and low culture,
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we did not move an inch, it seems.
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I have witnessed the walls of a -
university - stronghold being constructed
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so as to protect,
around the guardians of this temple,
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values that have not produced anything
useful or relevant for a very long time.
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I say this all the more uneasily
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as I put myself not only
in the position of essayist here
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but also in that of a filmmaker
examining theory,
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asking the question of knowing,
of understanding,
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in what way it would have been
useful or stimulating to me
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beyond what I learned by contributing
to Cahiers du cinéma for five years,
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between 1980 and 1985.
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The answer, as far as I am concerned,
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is brutal: nothing.
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And, as nature has gifted me
with a rather contrary spirit,
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I am left with the feeling
that I had to swim against the tide
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of ephemeral conceptions,
of lucky charms,
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of instantly forgotten fashions
of a drifting cinephile thought,
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determined by a late connection
with Bourdieusian sociology,
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dabbling in the mirror games
of postmodernity
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and naively running after
the prestige of the visual arts,
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ever since the latter have invaded
the field of the moving image
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via the practice of installation art,
however fragile and questionable.
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Please allow me to look
to the past one last time
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before coming to less
negative considerations,
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although I am in many ways a supporter
of the powers of the negative,
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which were a great inspiration to me.
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When historical cinephilia was formed
in the late 1950s and early 1960s,
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did the theory of the visual arts
have anything at all to say about cinema,
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about its history and the powerful forces
that determined its transformation?
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Not much, in my opinion,
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and you do not have to be, as I was,
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a reader of Guy Debord
and the Situationists
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to observe that during those years,
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faced with the advent
of the New York School;
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Pollock, de Kooning, Rothko...
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the main question
troubling the European avant-gardes
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was their own political failure
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and the rehashing
of the deadlocks of abstraction,
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the repetition of transgressions that
weren't even shocking anymore in 1930.
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Cinema was so far removed from the
concerns of the theory of the visual arts
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that it referred,
even in its most contemporary variations,
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such as Italian neorealism,
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to the most basic monocular
reproduction of the world.
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Cinema's question of figuration
seemed insignificant
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compared with
the exploration of the obscurities
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or the dazzlement of the unconscious
through the means of abstraction
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and, even more so,
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compared with the movement
of art's negation through happenings
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in their most radical
and extreme variations,
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such as Viennese Actionism.
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Or, again, the Hamburg Theses
of Debord, Vaneigem and Kotényi
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which signaled
the Situationist renunciation of art
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in favor of
the "realization of philosophy."
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I am writing this
to recall how cinephile thought
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was also a powerful antidote
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to the destructive forces
at work within the avant-gardes
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and how it enabled
the budding filmmakers of the time,
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undoubtedly the richest and most prolific
generation in the history of film,
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to find a basis for a practice
of representing the world,
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which the visual arts were denying them.
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We will have to come to the present.
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I am going to try and do that.
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I would like to begin
with the issue of theory,
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given that I reject cinephilia for its
ossification into ideology and dogma.
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In his recent book A History 0f Pictures,
David Hockney,
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whom I consider to be the main
contemporary thinker of the image,
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apart from being
the greatest living painter,
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pursues a fascinating reflection
on the origins of representation:
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how it was long built
around a relationship
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with the monocular perspective,
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with the technical evolution of lenses
and their usage,
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and the technique of the camera obscura.
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As much as these tools allow him
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an infinitely stimulating rereading
of the classical era of painting,
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he also deals with
their modern reappraisal.
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The Cubist moment
was a pivotal event in this regard,
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breaking with the traditional
reference points of perspective
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through a multiplication of angles
for one and the same image.
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In my view,
Hockney does not go far enough,
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in the sense that his view
is not supported by the theory of cinema,
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which has over time
forgotten being a theory of perception -
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except with Gilles Deleuze who,
primarily in The Movement Image,
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has been one of the very last
great thinkers of cinema.
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It is indeed from
the point of view of movement -
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and of the multiplication of perspectives
and axes within a sequence,
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not within a shot,
which is not the true syntagm of cinema -
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that the question of cinema as an answer
to Hockney's concerns plays out,
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as a way of questioning the limits
of the original camera obscura.
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The movement of the camera,
ever since it can be carried,
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and the use of long lenses,
including indoors,
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ever since we have
sensitive enough opticals at our disposal,
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indeed brings us several steps closer,
I think,
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to the reproduction of perception,
which is finally within reach.
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Hockney refuses to take stock
of these questions at work in cinema,
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which is the limit of his reflection,
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but it seems to me that the last
breakthrough in his most recent work
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is essential, in the sense
that it suggests placing painting
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back at the heart
of the history of images.
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To summarize it schematically,
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he does not consider the shift
from painting to photography as a break
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but a continuity
in which the decisive invention
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is not so much
the rival reproduction of the real
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as it is the ability to fix -
on photographic paper -
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an image that painters had already
known for a long time
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through their use of perspective
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and which was at the source
of its techniques and their evolution.
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The importance of this idea
lies in its relegitimization
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of the age-old artistic theory developed
around painting at the heart of cinema,
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which could quite reasonably
be considered
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the continuation
of the invention of photography.
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Fundamentally,
the question I am trying to ask
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would be to know if it would not be
in the interest of cinema today
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to confront the wealth of reflections
that have, since the Renaissance,
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been concerned with considering both the
question of the reproduction of the world
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and the even more essential question
of the exploration of perception.
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If I were asked what I think is most
useful to teach in today's film schools,
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I would recommend these two tracks.
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Besides,
in order to support these intuitions,
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it would suffice to observe
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how the thinkers of the image
that Jean-Luc Godard -
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the most authentically plastic of all
the great modern filmmakers -
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most often refers to are Elie Faure
and, above all, Andre Malraux,
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whose brilliance
and staggering juxtapositions -
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theoretical short circuits -
most certainly continue to haunt us.
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What I am trying to say here
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is how poorly equipped cinephilia is
to face these questions,
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which are at the heart
of the understanding
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of cinema's mysterious
contemporary nature,
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whose very elements
still seem to escape us.
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Whereas the history of the arts offers us
a wealth of stimulating opportunities
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to reinvent our relationship
with the moving image and, perhaps,
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to set it back in the long history
that ended up being obscured
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by the opposition between classical cinema
and modernity, a productive time.
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Who is thinking cinema today, from which
point of view and based on which values?
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And what does cinema think of itself,
according to which ethics and principles?
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Two questions of a very different nature,
whose answers seem to have crumbled -
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especially on the Internet -
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and whose coherence has become
infinitely difficult to imagine.
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Seen from a limited angle,
that of French cinema,
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it seemed to me that,
although I was not part of it myself,
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the strong personalities
of Serge Daney and Claude Lanzmann
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sewed as reference points for a while
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by founding a sort of
funeral postscript to cinephilia,
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which was post-leftist
rather than postmodern
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and defined by the question of the taboo:
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on the one hand,
the "tracking shot in Kapo"
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which was criticized by Jacques Rivette
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in an essay about Gillo Pontecorvds film,
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auteur oi The Battle of Algiers
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and indestructible idol
of anti-colonialist cinema,
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and which, for Daney,
becomes obscenity itself,
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the aestheticization of deportation,
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at a time when he is giving
a deeply moving literary form
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to his own hitherto repressed personal
history of a father he never knew,
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a Polish Jew and victim of the camps.
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Claude Lanzmann, on the other hand,
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the auteur of the astonishing
masterpiece Shoah,
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by grasping deportation
in a transcendental way
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and refraining from using archival images,
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built a film ethics around this question
that made a lasting impression.
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The combination of these two issues served
as theory for a generation of filmmakers
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who were themselves rarely directly
affected by these historical questions
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but who were looking for a moral code
which the ruins of classical cinephilia,
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already critically wounded by leftism,
were unable to provide.
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The paradox
of this moment in cinema theory
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is that it had nothing
constructive to propose
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other than the establishing
of some code of restriction.
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Complete with the obligingly raised
specter of the death of cinema.
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I wouldn't have liked to start making
films in those dire circumstances,
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and it was Arnaud Desplechin
who, in La sentinelle -
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a film I always thought
Serge Daney would have loved -
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managed to untie this knot
and rescue cinema from this curse.
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But wasn't there
a fundamental truth to all this
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and wasn't Serge Daney, who climbed aboard
the post-Bazinian train during the 1970s,
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nearly clairvoyant with regard
to the deadlocks of cinephilia
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around which he had established himself
and whose unraveling,
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decomposing and self-denial
he witnessed while he was himself dying?
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What is left of these questions?
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Do they remain, did they get
past the borders of France?
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Not really.
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Do they appeal to young filmmakers?
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Do they have a posterity,
or are they only relevant
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within the context of this reflection
on the present state of cinema?
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Hardly.
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When trying to identify the place
of a reformulation of cinephilia today,
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it is impossible not to situate it
on the Internet
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and in the latter's redefinition
of both the viewing modes of cinema
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and the way in which
we move through its history.
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It is an irrelevant commonplace
and yet a truth worth mentioning
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that today's generations have
an infinitely wider access to history -
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to the entire history of cinema
as well as to its present -
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unimaginable for pre-digital humanity,
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who only had access
through the Cinémathéque
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to a fraction
of the masterpieces of cinema,
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some of them remaining
perfectly unattainable.
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We don't see everything,
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but we have access to almost everything,
free of charge even;
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cinephilia has dissolved
into a multitude of conflicting cliques,
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each organized around one fragment
of one glorious past,
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to the extent that even its symbolic value
continues to diminish.
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There are still films,
often very good ones too -
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more good films are made today
than at any other time -
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whose stakes play out on an ad hoc basis:
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will it win the Oscar, the Palm,
the Lion, the Bear, will it be nominated?
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While filmmakers as auteurs are fading.
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Who today knows how to follow
the thread of an oeuvre,
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to understand what is at work
in an artist's search,
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however senseless and futile?
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It's all about this film right here,
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and after that
everything starts all over again.
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In the digital fragmentation and its
dilution of theoretical pertinence today,
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the entire legacy of auteur cinephilia
is pretty much called into question.
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Which theory is entering into dialogue
with cinema in the present,
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which theory is accepted, has the right to
help shape the inspiration of filmmakers?
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To whom is one accountable?
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I am a little afraid of the answer,
to be honest.
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It seems to me that it is sociology -
it is easier to say the political -
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and communitarianism.
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But is this a good or a bad thing?
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And am I not venturing onto fragile,
shifting sands?
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I believe there is an injunction
to address these questions,
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even if I doubt
that I will be able to formulate
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a satisfactory,
let alone consensual, answer.
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We know the evils of our time.
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Global warming, ecological disaster,
an insane increase in social inequalities,
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the impossibility of managing
migratory flows
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and, above all, the inability
of those who govern, of states,
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to give a satisfactory
or even vaguely reassuring response
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to these anxiety-inducing subjects,
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not to mention wars,
epidemics or unemployment.
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Conversely, it seems as if
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the self-destructive opposition
to the apprehension of these evils
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has in our democracies
become an electoral asset.
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It is only natural
that filmmakers are citizens too
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and thus legitimately involved
in the issues society is facing.
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But the political
is the domain of the complex,
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and it does not necessarily
produce good cinema.
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What's more, fictional cinema struggles -
which is normal -
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to grasp social issues that are analyzed
or represented much more adequately
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by publishing, the press
or even documentaries,
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longer and therefore more legitimate forms
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that possess the ability
to treat fragile or sensitive subjects
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with the necessary rigor,
precision and exactingness
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that cinema can only
very exceptionally offer.
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From my point of view, the sociological
is a bad branch to catch hold of,
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not least because simplifications,
amalgamations, and dramatization
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risk cutting out the facts,
reducing them to comfortable generalities
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and resulting in an interpretation
that is both erroneous and harmful.
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I do not wish to criticize
or delegitimize a cinema
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that aims to be accountable
to the state and its citizens;
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on the contrary,
it is perfectly commendable.
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I just want to say that I find it very
difficult, and sometimes even dangerous,
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and that I do not at any rate
discern a key there
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that would allow us to think contemporary,
let alone future, cinema
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in a satisfactory or stimulating way.
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What to think of communitarianism,
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which has become a factor
influencing our societies
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and which in turn examines cinema
for lack of being examined by it,
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which would seem more fundamental, riskier
and more satisfying anyway to our minds;
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I have always been convinced
that it is the role of cinema and art
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to examine society
and certainly not to be examined by it,
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especially not in terms of censorship,
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the eternal hallmark
of totalitarian regimes.
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I was an adolescent in the 1970s.
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I have often repeated this
and will continue to do so
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because this period, and its questioning
of all society's values marked me.
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I lived and was actively involved
in a counterculture
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that advocated the liberation
of everyday life,
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and I was engaged in forms of leftism
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that promoted individual liberation
rather than collectivist utopias
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and support for authoritarian
or even genocidal regimes.
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I have seen the liberation
of homosexuality in words and deeds,
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I have seen the revival of feminism
and its decisive victories.
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I have seen the invention
of a Franco-Maghrebi identity,
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of a culture originating in the districts
the African immigrants were relegated to,
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encouraged to settle in France
in order to serve as labor
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for Gaullist France's
great infrastructure works.
463
00:26:16,596 --> 00:26:19,702
I was less interested, afterwards,
464
00:26:19,799 --> 00:26:22,575
in the identitarian drift
that followed from these steps forward,
465
00:26:22,669 --> 00:26:25,946
nor in their political or ideological
instrumentalization.
466
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:27,780
Perhaps they were fatal;
467
00:26:27,874 --> 00:26:31,219
perhaps they were necessary,
I don't know.
468
00:26:31,311 --> 00:26:34,190
I have personally never thought
of my relationship with others
469
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:38,228
in terms of the color of their skin
or their sexual preferences.
470
00:26:38,318 --> 00:26:40,662
As for my relationship
with women and feminism -
471
00:26:40,753 --> 00:26:44,030
which would be my lifelong
favorite political party
472
00:26:44,124 --> 00:26:47,230
because I am utterly convinced
that toxic masculinity
473
00:26:47,327 --> 00:26:50,069
has become the source
of all evil in our world -
474
00:26:50,163 --> 00:26:52,734
it was Groucho Marx
who gave the best definition
475
00:26:52,832 --> 00:26:55,608
when he said that man
is a woman like any other.
476
00:26:55,702 --> 00:26:57,306
I couldn't have said it better myself.
477
00:26:57,403 --> 00:27:02,614
I add these more personal comments
not just to define who I am
478
00:27:02,709 --> 00:27:04,689
but, in this instance,
"where I'm speaking from,"
479
00:27:04,777 --> 00:27:06,757
to use the jargon of the political years.
480
00:27:06,846 --> 00:27:10,726
I personally think that cinema
can be communitarian -
481
00:27:10,817 --> 00:27:14,094
I do not think it is intended that way,
but why not -
482
00:27:14,187 --> 00:27:17,031
but this communitarianism
is nevertheless entirely unsuited
483
00:27:17,123 --> 00:27:20,332
to taking the place of the absence
of theoretical thinking on cinema,
484
00:27:20,426 --> 00:27:23,930
which we have to take stock of today.
485
00:27:26,432 --> 00:27:28,070
I will have to address Hollywood.
486
00:27:28,168 --> 00:27:30,375
I have practically nothing positive
to say about it
487
00:27:30,670 --> 00:27:35,210
except that this industry's prosperity
and new modalities do not delight me,
488
00:27:35,308 --> 00:27:39,916
they frighten or even repulse me,
because what they have recently produced
489
00:27:40,013 --> 00:27:44,291
is diametrically opposed to what I loved
or admired about the American cinema that,
490
00:27:44,384 --> 00:27:48,389
throughout film history, provided this art
with several of its greatest masters.
491
00:27:48,688 --> 00:27:50,429
We are witnessing the triumph of series,
492
00:27:50,723 --> 00:27:52,999
the distribution of films
through digital platforms
493
00:27:53,092 --> 00:27:54,867
and the confiscation of screens
494
00:27:54,961 --> 00:27:58,773
in the service of
(mostly Disney-studio) franchises,
495
00:27:58,865 --> 00:28:01,311
whose hegemony now seems absolute.
496
00:28:01,401 --> 00:28:04,280
Why take the trouble to finance a film
497
00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:07,817
that is not meant
to provoke a sequel, a spin-off,
498
00:28:07,907 --> 00:28:09,750
or another film "in the universe of"
499
00:28:09,842 --> 00:28:14,018
and whose unsure relationship
with the public is unpredictable?
500
00:28:14,113 --> 00:28:18,118
For a long time now, in Hollywood,
the territory of film has been shrinking.
501
00:28:18,218 --> 00:28:20,095
To the benefit of an independent cinema
502
00:28:20,186 --> 00:28:22,962
forced to make do
with ridiculous budgets -
503
00:28:23,056 --> 00:28:27,300
and thus limited in its practicing
of the contemporary syntax of cinema,
504
00:28:27,393 --> 00:28:29,703
which is reserved for major productions.
505
00:28:30,730 --> 00:28:34,268
And Netflix, and Disney Plus,
and Apple, etc;
506
00:28:34,367 --> 00:28:36,438
hasn't cinema taken refuge there?
507
00:28:36,736 --> 00:28:38,875
Haven't Alfonso Cuarén, Martin Scorsese,
508
00:28:38,972 --> 00:28:44,115
the Safdie brothers, and Noah Baumbach
found political asylum there?
509
00:28:44,510 --> 00:28:47,116
I have even been there myself,
since my film Wasp Network
510
00:28:47,213 --> 00:28:50,490
is distributed by Netflix in most places,
511
00:28:50,783 --> 00:28:53,286
except where it had been bought
in advance - first of all in France,
512
00:28:53,386 --> 00:28:56,333
where it was an honest public success
on the big screen.
513
00:28:56,422 --> 00:29:02,202
No other distributor offered the producers
of the film a viable alternative.
514
00:29:02,295 --> 00:29:06,038
If there is one issue cinema-thinking -
515
00:29:06,132 --> 00:29:10,274
which could use some sorely
missing theoretical tools -
516
00:29:10,370 --> 00:29:12,111
comes up against,
517
00:29:12,205 --> 00:29:16,176
it is the confusion generated
by the profound transformation
518
00:29:16,276 --> 00:29:18,756
of film distribution and financing.
519
00:29:18,845 --> 00:29:20,483
First of all, do the platforms
520
00:29:20,780 --> 00:29:25,525
intend to finance ambitious
contemporary auteur cinema,
521
00:29:25,818 --> 00:29:31,791
beyond the incidental effect of fame
that comes with the rivalry in this field
522
00:29:31,891 --> 00:29:35,862
of newcomers determined to take over
a large share of the market?
523
00:29:35,962 --> 00:29:40,877
In other words, will Netflix, in need
of prestige and symbolic value today,
524
00:29:40,967 --> 00:29:44,380
still need it next year or the year after?
525
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:46,279
Not really, I guess.
526
00:29:46,372 --> 00:29:50,184
As for the studios, will they return
to film as a business model
527
00:29:50,276 --> 00:29:52,813
or is the deviation towards franchises
on the one hand
528
00:29:52,912 --> 00:29:55,085
and series on the other definitive?
529
00:29:55,181 --> 00:30:00,130
In short, is there still room
for a free cinema on the big screen?
530
00:30:00,219 --> 00:30:03,166
I believe that
if this window is not closing,
531
00:30:03,256 --> 00:30:05,896
it is at least shrinking before our eyes.
532
00:30:05,992 --> 00:30:11,135
The only real model left
is an independent, radical, daring cinema,
533
00:30:11,230 --> 00:30:13,073
alas with limited distribution.
534
00:30:14,033 --> 00:30:15,979
Am I comfortable with that?
535
00:30:16,069 --> 00:30:17,309
Not really.
536
00:30:17,403 --> 00:30:20,247
I come from the visual arts originally;
537
00:30:20,340 --> 00:30:22,479
I was influenced by contemporary poetry,
538
00:30:22,575 --> 00:30:28,048
and my musical tastes have most often
led me to artists on the margins' margins,
539
00:30:28,147 --> 00:30:31,822
not to mention my aesthetic,
philosophical, and political convictions,
540
00:30:31,918 --> 00:30:34,330
which are of a terribly minority nature
within my generation.
541
00:30:34,420 --> 00:30:38,835
But if I chose to devote myself to cinema,
it was because of its majority status,
542
00:30:38,925 --> 00:30:43,431
because it was the last art form
that profoundly resonated with society,
543
00:30:43,529 --> 00:30:45,941
that wasn't trapped in its stronghold,
544
00:30:46,032 --> 00:30:49,275
that hadn't suffered the overwhelming
deviation of the visual arts,
545
00:30:49,369 --> 00:30:53,215
which opted for an alliance
with triumphant financial capitalism,
546
00:30:53,306 --> 00:30:56,583
choosing a false cynical radicalism,
547
00:30:56,876 --> 00:30:59,584
which Guy Debord called "state Dadaism,"
548
00:30:59,879 --> 00:31:03,349
meant to promote it
to stratospheric heights.
549
00:31:03,449 --> 00:31:07,454
The cinema that inspired me, that I loved,
that I have tried to practice myself
550
00:31:07,553 --> 00:31:11,228
is an impure and open cinema,
particularly accessible
551
00:31:11,324 --> 00:31:16,273
to those for whom cinema is often
the only opportunity to encounter art
552
00:31:16,362 --> 00:31:20,310
as vital, beneficial
and, why not, salutary.
553
00:31:21,167 --> 00:31:25,980
Do I think, in this regard,
that Alfonso Cuarén, Martin Scorsese,
554
00:31:26,072 --> 00:31:27,483
the Coen brothers, and so many others
555
00:31:27,573 --> 00:31:30,110
have been right
in choosing a form of security
556
00:31:30,209 --> 00:31:33,281
and entrusting their films to Netflix?
I don't.
557
00:31:33,379 --> 00:31:36,383
I think that their films demonstrate
that the cinema I believe in
558
00:31:36,482 --> 00:31:37,984
is alive and feasible -
559
00:31:38,084 --> 00:31:40,064
most of these films
could have easily been financed
560
00:31:40,153 --> 00:31:43,396
without the help of Netflix
or other platforms -
561
00:31:43,489 --> 00:31:46,368
and that it is the extension,
the continuation of an art
562
00:31:46,459 --> 00:31:49,269
that is truly of our time,
of our generation,
563
00:31:49,362 --> 00:31:53,071
that gives the most susceptible,
sensitive account
564
00:31:53,166 --> 00:31:56,943
of the transformation of the world,
of beings, of time,
565
00:31:57,036 --> 00:31:58,538
so many things that belong to cinema
566
00:31:58,638 --> 00:32:03,053
and which are in danger of getting lost
or forgotten in the flow of images;
567
00:32:03,142 --> 00:32:05,019
and, even if I have few certainties,
568
00:32:05,111 --> 00:32:07,557
I am certain that this danger
is very real,
569
00:32:07,647 --> 00:32:10,218
that facing it and persevering
will unite us,
570
00:32:10,316 --> 00:32:15,698
however powerful the forces
we have to face.
571
00:32:17,356 --> 00:32:22,101
At this point, my reader
has every right to ask me
572
00:32:22,195 --> 00:32:23,936
what this absent theory is, exactly,
573
00:32:24,030 --> 00:32:26,340
that cinema in the present time
would need.
574
00:32:26,432 --> 00:32:30,039
It seems I have already evoked
the indispensable back and forth
575
00:32:30,136 --> 00:32:34,209
between intuitive, spontaneous,
uncontrolled practice,
576
00:32:34,307 --> 00:32:38,084
often determined by the use
of new tools or new mediums,
577
00:32:38,177 --> 00:32:39,417
and its thought.
578
00:32:39,512 --> 00:32:43,324
I don't mean to say that the development
of the arts is the word of the Pythia
579
00:32:43,416 --> 00:32:46,397
and that it is up to critics, essayists,
and certain filmmakers too,
580
00:32:46,486 --> 00:32:49,490
as I am doing at this very moment,
to try to decipher its enigmas.
581
00:32:49,589 --> 00:32:53,332
But I do think it might be important,
perhaps even essential,
582
00:32:53,426 --> 00:32:58,205
that works generate what
Roberto Longhi called ekphrasis,
583
00:32:58,297 --> 00:33:00,709
that is to say the discourse
made possible and provoked
584
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,412
by the questions, enigmas
and breakthroughs
585
00:33:03,503 --> 00:33:08,077
that art in its quest for life
and its contradictions leaves unsolved.
586
00:33:08,174 --> 00:33:11,417
A writing that would be
in dialogue with the artists,
587
00:33:11,511 --> 00:33:13,184
a revelation of the work
588
00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:16,726
and by this very fact
an intercessor for the spectator.
589
00:33:17,650 --> 00:33:19,596
I understand this
in the most literal sense,
590
00:33:19,685 --> 00:33:22,666
that of knowing how to read
and answer the questions raised
591
00:33:22,755 --> 00:33:24,564
day by day by the practice of film,
592
00:33:24,657 --> 00:33:27,160
but I would also like
to push this issue a little further
593
00:33:27,260 --> 00:33:28,705
and open it up to two fields
594
00:33:28,794 --> 00:33:32,264
which seem to offer great potential
within the present context.
595
00:33:32,365 --> 00:33:36,006
The first is the unconscious,
and the second is ethics.
596
00:33:37,236 --> 00:33:39,307
Here, more than elsewhere,
I must speak in the first person
597
00:33:39,405 --> 00:33:42,784
and share concerns
that have always haunted me,
598
00:33:43,075 --> 00:33:44,611
even when they were losing ground
599
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:47,657
in film reflection
and in the inspiration of filmmakers.
600
00:33:48,548 --> 00:33:50,550
Applied to cinema,
and please forgive me
601
00:33:50,650 --> 00:33:53,494
the inevitable
simplifications and shortcuts
602
00:33:53,586 --> 00:33:56,328
when approaching that vast a subject,
603
00:33:56,422 --> 00:33:59,699
psychoanalysis enlightens us
in two different forms.
604
00:33:59,792 --> 00:34:03,604
The first, broadly Freudian, form
reminds us
605
00:34:03,696 --> 00:34:07,303
that auteurs are never entirely aware
of what they are doing
606
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,244
in their apprehension of characters
and their acts,
607
00:34:10,336 --> 00:34:13,510
in the same manner that writers,
taking up their pen,
608
00:34:13,606 --> 00:34:16,348
do not always write
what they had planned to,
609
00:34:16,442 --> 00:34:21,084
as writing reveals thought
rather than thought freezing writing:
610
00:34:21,180 --> 00:34:24,161
in short, I mean
that both filmmakers and writers,
611
00:34:24,250 --> 00:34:26,127
however lucid they may be,
612
00:34:26,218 --> 00:34:28,698
do not always know
what they are saying or doing
613
00:34:28,788 --> 00:34:31,064
because their unconscious is at work.
614
00:34:31,591 --> 00:34:35,437
In another time, not long ago,
this went without saying,
615
00:34:35,528 --> 00:34:38,634
and in reflections on Ingmar Bergman's,
616
00:34:38,731 --> 00:34:41,735
Michelangelo Antonioni's
or Jacques Tati's characters,
617
00:34:41,834 --> 00:34:46,146
one went looking for what motivated
or determined the modern individual,
618
00:34:46,238 --> 00:34:48,377
for better or for worse.
619
00:34:48,474 --> 00:34:50,818
I believe the same
could be the case today,
620
00:34:51,110 --> 00:34:53,784
at a time when the meaning of films,
in its multiple forms,
621
00:34:53,879 --> 00:34:58,828
has more than ever become
a subject of debate and polemics.
622
00:34:59,118 --> 00:35:03,396
In films, as in any work of the mind,
it is the unconscious that acts.
623
00:35:03,489 --> 00:35:06,129
We open our doors to it
624
00:35:06,225 --> 00:35:09,399
and there is nothing more precious
than what it expresses through us
625
00:35:09,495 --> 00:35:13,500
once we refrain from commonplaces,
convenience, conventions
626
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:15,704
and all the false dramatic rules
627
00:35:15,801 --> 00:35:17,872
determining committees
and commissions
628
00:35:18,170 --> 00:35:22,380
on which the present and future
of cinema sadly all too often depends,
629
00:35:22,475 --> 00:35:27,356
limiting and distorting
the authentic inspiration and desires
630
00:35:27,446 --> 00:35:30,757
of young filmmakers who are taught
how not to be themselves
631
00:35:30,850 --> 00:35:32,887
by the dominant rules
of the film industry.
632
00:35:34,220 --> 00:35:37,463
The other dimension according to which
psychoanalysis defines cinema
633
00:35:37,556 --> 00:35:40,127
I would like to call broadly Jungian,
634
00:35:40,226 --> 00:35:42,706
in the sense that cinema in its entirety,
635
00:35:42,795 --> 00:35:45,605
even in its most conventional
and simplistic form, can -
636
00:35:45,698 --> 00:35:47,143
and, in my opinion, should -
637
00:35:47,233 --> 00:35:49,713
be regarded
as a collective unconscious.
638
00:35:49,802 --> 00:35:52,180
The world of images,
the fantastic, the imaginary,
639
00:35:52,271 --> 00:35:55,775
wherever it may lead us, often in the most
disappointing or banal ways,
640
00:35:55,875 --> 00:36:00,483
is the dream of our society,
and it informs us, often without knowing,
641
00:36:00,579 --> 00:36:03,719
about the state of the world
better than any other art,
642
00:36:03,816 --> 00:36:05,557
with the exception maybe of songs,
643
00:36:05,651 --> 00:36:08,257
of popular entertainment
and music in all its forms,
644
00:36:08,354 --> 00:36:11,801
providing a real-time account of what
is flowing through our present time.
645
00:36:11,891 --> 00:36:15,338
For example, I have always
considered Star Trek
646
00:36:15,428 --> 00:36:18,841
a quasi-documentary look at office life
647
00:36:18,931 --> 00:36:20,569
and the interactions between employees,
648
00:36:20,666 --> 00:36:24,375
torn between their daily routine
and the dangers of the outside world;
649
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:27,713
I only later realized what was
literally staring me in the face,
650
00:36:27,807 --> 00:36:32,313
that their spaceship
is called "Enterprise"...
651
00:36:32,411 --> 00:36:34,516
On a darker note,
652
00:36:34,613 --> 00:36:37,560
it is difficult not to consider
the proliferation of films
653
00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:41,621
that are in some way haunted
by destruction and the end of the world,
654
00:36:41,721 --> 00:36:46,795
and built around Marvel superheroes,
a sort of revenge of masculinity,
655
00:36:46,892 --> 00:36:51,500
which is threatened by the redefinition
of the place of women in modern societies.
656
00:36:51,597 --> 00:36:54,305
And I deliberately choose
two rather simple tendencies
657
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,347
with the sole intention of showing
that unraveling these threads
658
00:36:57,436 --> 00:37:01,248
could contribute to thinking the truths,
including the unpleasant ones,
659
00:37:01,340 --> 00:37:02,978
that animate our time.
660
00:37:04,243 --> 00:37:06,917
Which brings me to ethics.
It deserves to be examined,
661
00:37:07,012 --> 00:37:09,788
even if the present state of cinema
might provide us
662
00:37:09,882 --> 00:37:12,522
with few easy or satisfactory answers.
663
00:37:12,618 --> 00:37:15,462
It is not a question of morality for me,
664
00:37:15,554 --> 00:37:22,267
given that most of the works of Eisenstein
or Vertov could be defined as propaganda,
665
00:37:22,361 --> 00:37:25,934
that Rossellini himself made films
approved by the fascist state,
666
00:37:26,031 --> 00:37:29,706
that it can be painful
to watch The Birth 0f a Nation,
667
00:37:29,802 --> 00:37:31,304
one of film history's masterpieces,
668
00:37:31,403 --> 00:37:34,782
that Bergman, Hitchcock
and many of the most eminent artists
669
00:37:34,874 --> 00:37:38,549
in the history of cinema
have made Cold War films.
670
00:37:38,644 --> 00:37:41,488
This does not detract
from their genius.
671
00:37:41,580 --> 00:37:45,426
Not to mention Leni Riefenstahl,
who is denied her - important - place
672
00:37:45,518 --> 00:37:48,931
only because of her Nazism
and the benefits she derived from it.
673
00:37:49,555 --> 00:37:51,660
A great filmmaker like Xie Jin,
674
00:37:51,757 --> 00:37:57,002
the inspired auteur of Two Stage Sisters
and Woman Basketball Player N0. 5,
675
00:37:57,296 --> 00:37:59,503
had no scruples about pursuing his career
676
00:37:59,598 --> 00:38:02,374
during the Cultural Revolution's
darkest hours.
677
00:38:02,468 --> 00:38:05,449
I rather consider
it a question of practice,
678
00:38:05,538 --> 00:38:07,779
like when André Bazin
spoke of a "forbidden montage"
679
00:38:07,873 --> 00:38:10,877
when two antinomic shots are put together,
680
00:38:10,976 --> 00:38:12,580
a wild beast on the one hand
681
00:38:12,678 --> 00:38:14,658
and an actor disguised as an explorer
on the other.
682
00:38:14,747 --> 00:38:17,057
Or when Claude Lanzmann,
who I quoted earlier,
683
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:19,420
examines the legitimacy of representing,
684
00:38:19,518 --> 00:38:23,591
of fictionalizing the concentration camps
and the gas chambers.
685
00:38:23,689 --> 00:38:24,997
Everyone has the right to argue
686
00:38:25,090 --> 00:38:27,331
and to defend his or her point of view
on this issue.
687
00:38:27,426 --> 00:38:29,372
It is no less relevant
and it has, above all,
688
00:38:29,461 --> 00:38:31,668
the merit of going to the utmost limit
689
00:38:31,764 --> 00:38:33,903
of a question
that arises on a smaller scale
690
00:38:33,999 --> 00:38:36,741
in every single gesture
of the practice of cinema.
691
00:38:39,572 --> 00:38:41,051
Who finances films,
692
00:38:41,941 --> 00:38:43,614
where does the money come from,
693
00:38:43,709 --> 00:38:46,713
whose accomplices do we become
when spending that money,
694
00:38:46,812 --> 00:38:48,621
when practicing our art?
695
00:38:48,714 --> 00:38:50,887
What did we give up,
696
00:38:50,983 --> 00:38:54,760
what did we have to compromise with
697
00:38:54,854 --> 00:39:00,566
when we needed to meet
the demands of the market
698
00:39:00,659 --> 00:39:02,832
and the industry dictating their rules?
699
00:39:02,928 --> 00:39:04,874
The practices of which television channel,
700
00:39:04,964 --> 00:39:10,505
basing its audience on which demagogy,
do we approve of?
701
00:39:10,603 --> 00:39:13,982
To which fantasized demand,
to which "general public,"
702
00:39:14,073 --> 00:39:17,680
despised by those
who claim to speak in their name,
703
00:39:17,776 --> 00:39:19,414
have we given in?
704
00:39:25,618 --> 00:39:28,428
For example, fifteen years after the fact,
705
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,660
I discovered that my film
Sentimental Destinies
706
00:39:31,757 --> 00:39:34,636
had been distributed in the United States
by a company,
707
00:39:34,727 --> 00:39:36,104
and a very sympathetic one at that,
708
00:39:36,395 --> 00:39:40,775
whose main shareholder happened to be
the extreme-right agitator Steve Bannon.
709
00:39:40,866 --> 00:39:42,641
Am I comfortable with that?
710
00:39:42,735 --> 00:39:43,713
No, I'm not.
711
00:39:43,802 --> 00:39:45,804
Do I have a choice?
I don't know, perhaps,
712
00:39:45,905 --> 00:39:47,976
but things would be much clearer
713
00:39:48,073 --> 00:39:51,520
if these issues were discussed
and laid out in black-and-white.
714
00:39:51,610 --> 00:39:56,059
The same goes for American
mega productions adapting their scenarios
715
00:39:56,148 --> 00:40:00,563
to the demands of the Chinese government's
politico-confucian censorship
716
00:40:00,653 --> 00:40:02,655
in order to reach the planet's
largest audience.
717
00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:07,693
I am often reminded of the title
of an article by Frangois Truffaut,
718
00:40:07,793 --> 00:40:12,538
ironically called "Clouzot at Work,
or the Reign of Terror."
719
00:40:12,631 --> 00:40:14,440
We have to acknowledge, as Truffaut did,
720
00:40:14,533 --> 00:40:16,672
the image, widespread at the time
and more diffuse today,
721
00:40:16,769 --> 00:40:20,410
of the demiurge-filmmaker
who abused his authority and power
722
00:40:20,506 --> 00:40:22,543
to the benefit of an unspeakable quest,
723
00:40:22,641 --> 00:40:25,144
an absolute as vague
as it is hard to formulate,
724
00:40:25,444 --> 00:40:27,651
and whose whims, anger and impertinence
725
00:40:27,746 --> 00:40:30,625
are as many tangible expressions of it,
remaining, however,
726
00:40:30,716 --> 00:40:32,787
inaccessible to ordinary mortals.
727
00:40:32,885 --> 00:40:34,057
I consider the opposite important,
728
00:40:34,153 --> 00:40:37,134
that filmmakers are accountable
to their crew
729
00:40:37,222 --> 00:40:40,760
and that the quality of concentration,
the richness of sharing,
730
00:40:40,859 --> 00:40:44,830
the clarity of intentions
all form a decisive part
731
00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:47,069
of the collective adventure...
732
00:40:49,601 --> 00:40:50,773
of a film shoot.
733
00:40:50,869 --> 00:40:53,179
I have often,
whenever I had the opportunity,
734
00:40:53,472 --> 00:40:55,782
thanked the crew of my films
and reminded them
735
00:40:55,874 --> 00:40:59,981
how much cinema is the sum of energies
relayed by a director,
736
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,559
whose art often depends
on his ability to listen,
737
00:41:02,648 --> 00:41:04,059
to pay attention to ideas,
738
00:41:04,149 --> 00:41:06,720
to the flow of things
that arises on set day after day.
739
00:41:06,819 --> 00:41:09,595
His talent also depends on knowing
how to give rise to that.
740
00:41:09,688 --> 00:41:12,794
For me, it is an old and deep conviction
741
00:41:12,891 --> 00:41:16,134
that the best of cinema depends
on the quality of everyone's commitment
742
00:41:16,228 --> 00:41:18,071
to a strange undertaking which has to do
743
00:41:18,163 --> 00:41:21,576
with the reinvention
and re-enchantment of the real,
744
00:41:21,667 --> 00:41:24,238
but which is also a parallel world,
a parallel life
745
00:41:24,536 --> 00:41:26,982
in which everyone must be able
to surpass themselves,
746
00:41:27,072 --> 00:41:28,847
to find fulfillment and, in a way,
747
00:41:28,941 --> 00:41:31,649
to give meaning to what is
a little more than a job,
748
00:41:31,744 --> 00:41:35,783
the commitment of a life,
an intimate quest.
749
00:41:35,881 --> 00:41:39,829
This in no way means that I would renounce
what I have often declared,
750
00:41:39,918 --> 00:41:43,627
namely that directing is first
and foremost a force of disruption
751
00:41:43,722 --> 00:41:47,829
in the automatisms
that structure the functioning of a set.
752
00:41:47,926 --> 00:41:49,906
It is indeed up to the mise-en-scene
753
00:41:49,995 --> 00:41:53,772
to constantly unsettle conventions
and conveniences,
754
00:41:53,866 --> 00:41:57,814
forms that are only alive if they are
constantly shaken up and questioned:
755
00:41:57,903 --> 00:41:59,143
and the more we shake them up,
756
00:41:59,238 --> 00:42:02,242
the more we refuse to content ourselves
with ready-made answers,
757
00:42:02,541 --> 00:42:04,043
the more we put into practice
the conviction
758
00:42:04,143 --> 00:42:07,090
that cinema can and should be
a thousand things -
759
00:42:07,179 --> 00:42:10,126
what it was in the past
or what remains to be explored,
760
00:42:10,215 --> 00:42:11,751
that this territory is infinite
761
00:42:11,850 --> 00:42:14,126
and the only one
that really deserves exploring -
762
00:42:14,219 --> 00:42:16,256
the more chances we get to reveal
763
00:42:16,555 --> 00:42:19,195
the very meaning of our art
and its place in the world.
764
00:42:19,291 --> 00:42:21,771
But none of that can be achieved alone.
765
00:42:21,860 --> 00:42:25,603
It needs to be extended, deepened,
applied by everyone,
766
00:42:25,697 --> 00:42:31,238
with all attendant risks
and with the exactingness
767
00:42:31,336 --> 00:42:34,180
necessary to realize this ambition.
768
00:42:34,273 --> 00:42:35,775
This applies to all filming
769
00:42:35,874 --> 00:42:39,686
and to all filmmakers who have
chosen to practice their art
770
00:42:39,778 --> 00:42:42,554
outside the laws and rules
of the streaming industry
771
00:42:42,648 --> 00:42:45,254
and who have been able to preserve
their often hard-won freedom -
772
00:42:45,350 --> 00:42:48,854
cinema's supreme value -
to their own benefit, of course,
773
00:42:48,954 --> 00:42:51,798
but also, and just as much,
to the benefit of their collaborators.
774
00:42:51,890 --> 00:42:56,930
A film is a microcosm, all of society,
every stratum is represented in it,
775
00:42:57,029 --> 00:42:59,976
and the same waves,
the same tensions run through it,
776
00:43:00,065 --> 00:43:03,877
except that these values are put to
the test more immediately, more urgently,
777
00:43:03,969 --> 00:43:07,246
on a daily basis and with immediately
observable consequences.
778
00:43:07,339 --> 00:43:11,685
This is why I attach inestimable value
to an ethical practice of cinema
779
00:43:11,777 --> 00:43:14,087
whose beneficial effects,
pleasures as well as dangers,
780
00:43:14,179 --> 00:43:17,285
would be shared by all,
amounting to a disalienated work
781
00:43:17,382 --> 00:43:19,794
at the heart of the very territory
of alienation.
782
00:43:19,885 --> 00:43:21,592
I talked about accountability,
783
00:43:21,687 --> 00:43:24,759
and I believe one must first of all
submit one's work
784
00:43:24,857 --> 00:43:27,167
to the respect of these values.
785
00:43:27,259 --> 00:43:29,102
As you can guess, I do not really like
786
00:43:29,194 --> 00:43:32,732
what has become of the current
film industry in the hands of executives
787
00:43:32,831 --> 00:43:37,302
who look more like business managers
produced by business schools,
788
00:43:37,402 --> 00:43:40,815
or of senior civil servants,
who are often people of great quality
789
00:43:40,906 --> 00:43:43,318
but whose instincts, ambitions
and imagination
790
00:43:43,408 --> 00:43:45,718
are a million miles away
from those of the adventurers,
791
00:43:45,811 --> 00:43:50,021
the players and visionaries
who built this cathedral we all share,
792
00:43:50,115 --> 00:43:52,994
the cathedral
of the first century of cinema.
793
00:43:53,085 --> 00:43:56,794
In this regard, I have always put my Faith
in what is called independent cinema -
794
00:43:56,889 --> 00:43:58,368
structures whose historical models
would be
795
00:43:58,657 --> 00:44:00,694
Frangois Truffaut's
'Les Films du Carrosse'
796
00:44:00,792 --> 00:44:03,830
or Barbet Schroedefis and Eric Rohmer's
'Les Films du Losange.'
797
00:44:03,929 --> 00:44:07,240
But this would disregard the work
of producers who have,
798
00:44:07,332 --> 00:44:11,678
in the often hostile undergrowth
of various film-funding bodies
799
00:44:11,770 --> 00:44:14,717
and in the maze of the banking system,
managed to support -
800
00:44:14,806 --> 00:44:18,948
beyond any profit logic, happy not to be
out of pocket themselves -
801
00:44:19,044 --> 00:44:24,187
singular, atypical works
against the values of their time.
802
00:44:24,283 --> 00:44:25,421
Works by authentic authors
803
00:44:25,717 --> 00:44:28,721
who are themselves carried
by nothing but their convictions,
804
00:44:28,820 --> 00:44:31,994
their obsessions but also
their limits and their fragilities,
805
00:44:32,090 --> 00:44:33,865
the raw material of their work.
806
00:44:33,959 --> 00:44:35,131
It is this ecosystem,
807
00:44:35,227 --> 00:44:38,436
rephrased time and again
in different cultures and countries,
808
00:44:38,730 --> 00:44:42,678
more or less dependent on cinema-favorable
legislation or patronage,
809
00:44:42,768 --> 00:44:47,239
or on nothing at all, that has kept alive
reflection, research, daring
810
00:44:47,339 --> 00:44:48,977
and, first of all, a form of integrity
811
00:44:49,074 --> 00:44:51,816
that is indispensable
to the best practice of cinema.
812
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:58,156
We have seen the wave
of streaming cinema grow...
813
00:44:58,250 --> 00:45:03,393
we have seen cinema become an industry,
and this industry become dominant -
814
00:45:03,488 --> 00:45:06,731
and I am hesitant to use the words
"mind-numbing" or "alienating,"
815
00:45:06,825 --> 00:45:09,738
which would have, until recently,
flown quite naturally out of my pen
816
00:45:09,828 --> 00:45:11,466
without even feeling the need
to justify it.
817
00:45:11,763 --> 00:45:16,143
Yet whereas, in another time,
one could dream of cinema as a utopia,
818
00:45:16,235 --> 00:45:18,909
it seems to me that it has become
perfectly dystopian
819
00:45:19,004 --> 00:45:21,245
and that, in the name of entertainment
820
00:45:21,340 --> 00:45:25,152
or whitewashed in conformism
and bland good intentions,
821
00:45:25,244 --> 00:45:29,215
it is essentially devoted
to the perpetuation and flattery
822
00:45:29,314 --> 00:45:33,922
of the most conventional emotions
and of the lowest, if not inane, desires.
823
00:45:34,019 --> 00:45:36,397
In this respect,
I am happy enough when a film,
824
00:45:36,488 --> 00:45:39,901
for lack of a concern with nature,
light and the human,
825
00:45:39,992 --> 00:45:42,495
at least refrains from being harmful.
826
00:45:42,794 --> 00:45:45,070
This is why, deep down, today,
827
00:45:45,163 --> 00:45:49,077
cinema must be made against cinema.
828
00:45:49,167 --> 00:45:52,341
Especially if it wishes to embody,
within the new world of images,
829
00:45:52,437 --> 00:45:55,316
that which is most precious
and most vital:
830
00:45:55,407 --> 00:45:58,445
the freedom to think, to invent,
831
00:45:58,543 --> 00:46:01,387
to search, to wander and to err,
832
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,156
in short to be the antidote we need
so as to preserve our faith
833
00:46:06,251 --> 00:46:08,857
and keep the flame alive,
834
00:46:08,954 --> 00:46:12,060
which it is our duty to know how
to protect and transmit,
835
00:46:12,157 --> 00:46:14,000
generation after generation,
836
00:46:14,092 --> 00:46:16,766
in a battle that is never won.
77318
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