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The baby on my back,
this is my baby.
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The Schumsky Strad,
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from 1715, this is the instrument
I travel with everywhere.
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It's always close to me.
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It's my way of expressing.
It's my voice.
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It's so important to have an instrument
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that has an enormous variety of colours
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and finding those colours
and knowing how to bring them out.
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The Mendelsohn Concerto
has such life in it, I find.
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The sounds and
the colours that you try to find,
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are also something very
sparkly and Iively and which has energy.
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Of course one needs
an instrument that has this shine,
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a core in the sound that wiII always,
kind of, sing through.
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And of course,
I think this instrument very much has it.
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Different instruments,
maybe highlight different aspects,
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it invites to find
a different colour or to Iinger a little
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bit longer on certain notes.
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And whether
that is the soul of the instrument,
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the possibility in colouring,
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sometimes its also even,
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maybe the soul
of the old players that were playing it.
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I feel, I'm thinking
if this instrument had great players
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like Oscar Shumsky,
but also Rhode and Bauer.
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If I think about
Shumsky for instance, I mean,
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if you're thinking about
his wonderful glissand¡ and portament¡
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I kind of get
inspired sometimes, you know,
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I feel or hear that sound.
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One definitely
gets influenced in that sense.
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During this project,
and during the recording,
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to spend time with aII
these different instruments wiII be,
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weII this is inspiration
I cannot even begin to imagine.
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Because, they're so different
aII the instruments,
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so, to find each and every quality
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and the pieces that work best with that.
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I wiII take that in my life.
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You know I love this instrument;
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and being with this
for aII the upcoming concerts
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after that I wiII take
something very special from that.
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We want to bring twelve of the greatest
Stradivari from around the world,
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put them together with one of
the greatest artists,
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and record them
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so we can actually hear
the wonderful differences
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between
the sound of one violin and another.
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I tried to use a combination
of violins,
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so we do have some
which are in extraordinary condition
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and others which may not be in
such pristine condition,
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but still very fine.
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But they have a wonderful
history with the players
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and we know the players
choose them for the sound.
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This is Ida Haendel's violin,
a 1699 Stradivarius.
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Ida Haendel passed away very recently.
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The violin was with Ida in her house,
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for some years,
without really being played and touched.
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It had somehow come apart at the seams.
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When it came in, the top was off,
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the ribs were
separated the neck was apart.
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So we put it aII back together
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and made a restoration on
the violin and it sounded beautiful again.
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This is a 1699,
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well, it was Ida Haendel's.
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I met her once, years ago and
she was such an amazing violinist.
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I played Tchaikovsky at
Fort Lauderdale in Florida.
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She was at the concert and
Suddenly afterwards she came up to me.
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She was tiny, on high heels,
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and she was so sweet and I was just so
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extremely in shock
that she had come to listen and
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actually it's very special too...
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You know there's
so much history in this instrument.
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Even just the feeling of holding
and playing an instrument of somebody
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who you admire so much, its very, I mean...
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Oh wow, it's very.. piercing
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It's very briIIiant right,
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Ida Haendel is a complete legend,
that everybody loved and admired,
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and I felt
emotional also to play the instrument.
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You feel close to her.
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I think, in fact, and the,
important thing is that each
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instrument you need
to play differently in a way.
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Of course you have your way of
playing but you need to mouId differently.
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I'm not moving at aII almost.
- But it still...
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You don't have to make it vibrate.
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It wiII vibrate.
Even with the difference in speed...
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Yeah.
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Now find the float...
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Because it invites
the feel to do this kind of thing..
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but in some places
you need to find the...
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Yeah... Oh nice!
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Beautiful, I think you like it.
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I want this...
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I think with these great Violins,
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often you just have to not get
in the way of it
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and just let it do its thing.
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Especially with this one,
we just need to get out of its way
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and let it fly in a way.
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Hey great to see you agam, thank you.
- Thank you.
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- You know its
- Come through.
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So fantastic
you were able to make this trip
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from Tokyo, especially at this time.
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Happy to be here
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We had to have this fiddle,
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Let's go on up.
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Some of these instruments
are in the hands of players,
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and they had
to be free from their concerts.
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And then you have
the Iogistics of sorting out the technical
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side with the insurance and keeping
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Iawyers happy
and keeping foundations happy.
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It wiII not be something
that can be repeated easily.
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Oh, it's like seeing an old friend again.
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It's been a long time right?
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And you, of course I'm
so excited to see this violin.
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I haven't seen
it for quite a few years now.
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Wow, there it is, amazing.
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What an extraordinary violin.
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Well you know the history,
but it's a great grand pattern.
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It's built on the biggest Stradivari form.
It's just a great concert instrument.
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Stradivari
should connect people like this,
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these circumstances are so important.
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And Janine Jansen, she is one of
the most popular musicians in the world.
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Even I, in Japan, I know her very well.
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And I would be proud that the San Lorenzo
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could be one of the twelve.
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When I first met this violin in 2016,
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immediately I thought this was the one
I was looking for a long long time.
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It sounds great, and it's so powerful.
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Yep, yep, so I was very impressed.
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It's in the best hands now.
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The foundation Iends it to musicians.
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You know, it's important to pick the right
musician and right violin together.
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So, that is my importantjob.
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So you do the exactly same things as me.
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That's why we do it together.
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I've seen 70 or 80 Stradivari
in my life.
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And compared to that the San Lorenzo
is a top, top instrument.
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Because it's a Golden Period 1718,
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and its a grande pattern,
which means it is "grande", it's big.
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And it's so unique isn't it,
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with the inscription actually
on both Sides.
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It's less visible on this side,
but we basically know the Latin
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word means glory, wealth and justice.
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We believe
it was bought as a wedding present
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from Stradivari and given to
a violinist of the day called Moro Dela.
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He worked in the court of
the Queen of Spain and for King Philip V.
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I think this violin is among the top 20
greatest violins in the world,
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because so many
have been worn and used more than ideal.
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Because everybody
loves a golden period instrument.
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Of course there were some great ones from
the early period and the Iate period too.
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Antonio Stradivari as a young man
would have been possibly a woodcarver
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or involved with instruments in some form,
not necessarily Violins.
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He was probably wandering through
Cremona and at some point wandered into
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a violin shop and was fascinated
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and decided it is
something he really wanted to follow.
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Looking at his early instruments,
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we can do that in detail now because we're
writing a huge work on Stradivarius
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for this six volume book,
and I have been studying
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the early Stradivarius very much
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so and trying to work out,
if and at what point,
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he began to study with Nicolo Amati.
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There are a few early ones,
where you do think wow that does
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look like an Amati pattern.
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But having embarked
upon a career of violin making,
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he progresses,
you know through the sixties,
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which is very rare,
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through the seventies,
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and when you get
to the eighties he has clearly
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branched out on his own,
away from any other influences.
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And he is making his own
designs and he is changing the format,
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changing the outline and the shape,
he is experimenting with wood.
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And I think the great thing about
Stradivari is that he was very dextrous
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and skiIIed as a craftsman,
but also that he was constantly
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experimenting trying to create the perfect
sound and get the perfect shape.
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And then you go towards the 17003,
where he starts to make what
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is known as the perfect form,
through the golden period.
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I mean this bow,
I loved always playing Sibelius on it.
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But I don't know,
does it kiII the overtones?
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I don't know,
it's very warm and it doesn't crack.
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It still makes
the sound very warm and round.
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I didn't know what to expect
before I tried it,
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so it hasn't been played a Iot.
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Maybe it's not so easy
to respond and I didn't feel that at aII.
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One can dig in, but one can also let it,
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you know, loose and it has
a beautiful dulce character as well.
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Really, it's a great instrument.
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John, we're lucky enough to have
the Tyrell from 1717 here in our hands.
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I mean do you say this is one of
the top handful of best preserved strads?
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Yes, yes. Beautiful thing.
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So much varnish left on
there which is aII too rare these days.
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The Tyrell,
l think it's an extraordinary instrument,
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of special interest,
even within the golden period,
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Strad's productive and
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most refined period of work.
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Partly because it is so well preserved,
you can see in it,
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what he was trying to do,
what his goals were.
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It's not been over polished or
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spoilt though over-restoration.
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That's the light
Sheen that it should have.
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The amount of wear on this
fiddle looks like 20 or 30 years.
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Beyond that
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it's pretty much
almost at the beginning of its life
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and it remained in that state since.
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You've also got
this perfection in the concept of it,
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and this slightly unusual model
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compared to some of the other
instruments of the time
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and yet absolute Symmetry and
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perfection of execution.
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And this distinctive stripe down,
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I think its the difference between
the sapwood
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and the bark and
the hard wood from the centre
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of the tree,
and it leaves this differentiated stripe,
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that you see really quite
frequently on this instrument.
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There are aII these Iegends
that to make a good instrument
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you have to use really aged
wood and that's the secret of the tone.
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And you don't stand a chance
of making a good instrument unless
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your wood is a hundred years old.
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But he was using
wood that just a year or so ago had
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been growing in the alpine forests.
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It's remarkable that Stradivari
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are so suited to big concert haIIs
and big public performance.
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The situation
didn't actually exist then.
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So you get aII
these mystical people saying,
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"Oh wow he was this great prophet",
somehow he was inspired to do this."
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But it was simply
that the development he made,
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he saw and
he could do and he carried it out.
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And we're aII sort of
wallowing in the wake, since then.
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Got this magnificent front on this half,
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again you were talking earlier about
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how in the early years of
playing with the chin on this side,
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it gives you that mirror
effect doesn't it, of the wear.
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Through his Iife he never gave up
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searching for perfection.
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So if he had Iived for another
hundred years he wouldn't have been making
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his Golden Period Strads, he would
not have been making his Iate Strads.
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He would have developed and experimented
with other things, because he was
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always searching
out for whatever he could find.
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I mean this is a wonderful thing,
doing this research,
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and you see the development year,
by year by year
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and he never stopped.
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He was always thinking about it,
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and what he could do to improve,
and I think
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that is a really striking thing.
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He was an artist in those terms.
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He wasn't just
churning them out at any point,
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he was refreshing
his ideas from year to year to year.
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This one is from his Iate period and it's
big you know.
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It's muscular and strong.
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It's absolutely
incredible to understand that this
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was made by an eighteen year old.
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Honestly, I don't really know
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what to expect and maybe
I don't know what I got myself into.
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But I like a challenge,
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and I mean
it's an amazing opportunity
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to be able to play,
to get to know these instruments,
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even in limited time.
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But it's a challenge,
in this limited time, to find the voice.
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So it's not going to be now I pick
up this instrument and now it's going to..
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I need to really dive into it
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and that I have to do in a few hours,
or not even that.
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Not even in a few hours,
one instrument to another.
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So that's a challenge, but I'm up for it.
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Steven Oh my goodness, Janine.
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- Nice to see you.
- Good to see you, how are you?
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Good, I'm excited!
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I cannot believe we made it,
and the Violins made it.
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It's just wonderful
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I have to start with one violin,
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which for me
is possibly the most beautiful
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and extraordinary violin,
perhaps in the whole world.
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If I had to choose one violin,
to have it and own,
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this one would probably the one.
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It begins with A its the...
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It's just incredible,
because if you look at it,
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it looks like a brand new violin.
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Absolutely quite remarkable.
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And the history is beautiful, because
it belonged to Jean Baptiste VuiIIaume,
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he was one of the most
prolific makers and dealers in France.
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In fact, you could almost say,
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in the 19th Century he defined the violin
business in Europe,
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like Stradivari did
in the Iate 17th century.
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But this violin was bought over
by a gentleman called Luigi Tarisio,
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who was a dealer,
he used to come over from Italy
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to France regularly,
bringing him great Violins
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and this one was amongst them.
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Vuillaume bought it
and gifted it to his son-in-Iaw
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who was Jean Delphine Alard,
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which is where it takes its name from,
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and I think the reason
its so incredibly pristine is
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that it's always
been in the hands of Collectors.
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So it's not played
at the moment, or is it?
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It's not even been touched for ten years,
hasn't been played for ten years.
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I would think in the last forty or fifty
years only for private Chamber music.
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I don't think
it's been played professionally,
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as far as I'm aware,
for a long long long time...
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So the AIIard!
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Thank you,
so this I have never held in my hands.
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Can I play it?
I mean, I mean, I need to!
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I don't want to stretch
it any longer
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because I have been
waiting such a long time!
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No, really.
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We may need to make slight adjustments,
because I spoke with the owners and
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they said because
it hasn't been played for so long
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we may want to make slight adjustments.
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Which they've given us permission to do.
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I can't think what to play on this one.
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Amazing power
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Looking at this whilst you're playing,
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it is like you're playing
a modern instrument.
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It's ridiculous.
- Incredible.
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Imean
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Look at the back!
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I mean, it's really sick!
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FiIIs up the whole room!
It's like buzzing.
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The Alard, 1715, I mean
this is an extraordinary instrument.
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And I was really looking
forward to meeting this instrument.
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It's great for the start,
but you also feel like every
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note you play
you start feeling the potential.
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It's not an instrument
that I immediately felt like,
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maybe I felt with my own, the Shumsky
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where just everything works,
it melts, it just blends...
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Anything you do it's so... it reacts.
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So that's very interesting.
But it is one of the top.
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They're both great.
Very different.
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Easier to play Easier to play,
more straight forward but
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that one feels like it has this....
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Under powerhouse.
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I mean that's
how it sounds to my ear here.
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I don't know how it is in the hall
325
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but it feels like it has a Iot of body...
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Yeah underbelly.
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Another instrument that played
very easily was the Vieuxtemps. ..
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And then you know comparing again,
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it really is fascinating.
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One builds up to this moment of having
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twelve of the most
exceptional instruments
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in one room and getting
to know them and try them aII.
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And Suddenly it starts happening and
I have to get my head around to it
334
00:26:13,838 --> 00:26:16,274
and remember
aII the amazing instruments
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that passed through my hands.
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This is a really fabulous example of
one from 1680-83 period
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and what's amazing about
this is that it's so robust.
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It's really a fuII patterned Strad,
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but made much much earlier.
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I mean the wood
is plain but it's very beautiful
341
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and his work is absolutely,
spectacularly refined already.
342
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But it has
a different sound quality I'd say,
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to the others, but still very beautiful.
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Perhaps not as much richness and depth,
but still really great.
345
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I think it belonged to
a Sergeant in the Rifle Brigade in 1902.
346
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So Captain Savile from 1680.
347
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It's a very early
Strad and somehow one always
348
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gets a IittIe, "oh it's an early Strad
it could never compete to Golden period",
349
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it's a little bit talked about
350
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Iike this, even though
we're talking about Stradivarius.
351
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It looks different,
even the quality of the wood is different,
352
00:27:54,672 --> 00:27:57,108
but it's a great sounding instrument.
353
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It's very nice
to have this in the mix as well.
354
00:28:33,477 --> 00:28:37,014
The Captain Savile is an instrument
from 1680,
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I've had a close relationship
with this instrument
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over the past few years
and had the opportunity
357
00:28:42,954 --> 00:28:46,958
to explore some of
the voices it would have had historically,
358
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by changing the set up of it.
359
00:28:48,826 --> 00:28:50,595
Setting it up with gut strings,
360
00:28:50,728 --> 00:28:53,531
making a different tailpiece
and bridge for it
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and I felt
it was an instrument that suited
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00:28:56,701 --> 00:28:59,870
itself very
well to that kind of exploration.
363
00:29:00,004 --> 00:29:03,174
Because it was one of his earlier works.
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00:29:03,708 --> 00:29:08,546
I mean from a maker's perspective,
what's really thriIIing is the very unique
365
00:29:08,679 --> 00:29:09,614
twists of materials,
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00:29:09,747 --> 00:29:14,185
it's not some of the more
dramatic highly flamed wood,
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00:29:14,318 --> 00:29:17,588
but acoustically
very exciting perhaps more flexible,
368
00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:22,360
perhaps with a certain IeveI of
resistance and spring in it.
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00:29:22,493 --> 00:29:24,895
This is what I amount by looking at it.
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00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:28,199
And then you look at the ribs
and it's a place where he thought ok,
371
00:29:28,332 --> 00:29:31,502
let's actually make this
a little more alive and a little exciting.
372
00:29:31,636 --> 00:29:34,739
And the ribs have this
incredibly dramatic figure,
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which in some way contrast
and enhances
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00:29:39,110 --> 00:29:42,546
some of the simplicity
elements in the back itself.
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00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,181
This is a young Stradivari
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00:29:44,315 --> 00:29:47,351
and you imagine him emerging from
the shadow
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00:29:47,485 --> 00:29:51,622
of his teacher and sort of setting out
and defining himself in many ways.
378
00:29:51,756 --> 00:29:53,557
But the wood
he chose is very simple
379
00:29:53,691 --> 00:29:56,827
and my question is:
was that a necessity at the time?
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00:29:56,961 --> 00:29:58,296
Was that what was available?
381
00:29:58,429 --> 00:30:01,632
Was it also an acoustic exploration?
382
00:30:01,966 --> 00:30:04,869
I personally imagine it's a combination
of aII of those things.
383
00:30:05,002 --> 00:30:07,872
So the top is also very
exciting to me
384
00:30:08,005 --> 00:30:09,507
because it's a one piece top,
385
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,944
and you see this incredibly wide grain
on the base side,
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00:30:14,078 --> 00:30:15,813
which you imagine to be more fIexibIe
387
00:30:15,946 --> 00:30:19,517
and a much tighter grain
on the treble side.
388
00:30:19,650 --> 00:30:21,552
Which you imagine to be stiffer,
389
00:30:21,686 --> 00:30:23,287
potentially a little more brighter.
390
00:30:23,421 --> 00:30:27,191
So there's a Iot of variation
in the fIexibiIity of the top,
391
00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:28,659
just because of the material.
392
00:30:28,793 --> 00:30:31,829
Purely from workmanship,
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00:30:31,962 --> 00:30:35,132
I find it a great moment
in his career.
394
00:30:35,266 --> 00:30:37,568
And there's an element
where you do have this
395
00:30:37,702 --> 00:30:40,705
subtlety and refinement that Iends itself
396
00:30:40,838 --> 00:30:43,374
to a kind of acoustic refinement
397
00:30:43,507 --> 00:30:46,143
that we got to hear when Janine was
playing the instrument
398
00:30:46,277 --> 00:30:49,213
and was particularly drawn to it.
399
00:30:50,114 --> 00:30:54,318
For me it relates to,
what is the secret of Stradivarius?
400
00:30:54,452 --> 00:30:58,556
What is the secret of Vermeer?
What is the secret of Beethoven?
401
00:30:58,689 --> 00:31:02,860
The secret of Beethoven was Beethoven,
the secret of Vermeer was Vermeer.
402
00:31:02,993 --> 00:31:06,697
And I think there's
something very similar in Stradivarius.
403
00:31:06,831 --> 00:31:09,233
The secret is
actually the artist themselves,
404
00:31:09,367 --> 00:31:13,304
what does he bring that's ineffable,
that's inimitable,
405
00:31:13,437 --> 00:31:18,109
that's unique not only to him but to
the culture in which he was creating it.
406
00:31:18,242 --> 00:31:22,146
It was a culture of genius,
there's no question about it.
407
00:31:24,882 --> 00:31:29,153
Having access to something
in a great state of preservation,
408
00:31:29,286 --> 00:31:33,190
you get a Iot closer to
the original sense of the instrument.
409
00:31:33,324 --> 00:31:37,495
Seeing the Alard for the first
time when it was handed over to me,
410
00:31:37,628 --> 00:31:43,200
I nearly passed out from excitement,
I mean it was so thriIIing,
411
00:31:43,334 --> 00:31:46,103
the energy within the instrument I felt,
412
00:31:46,237 --> 00:31:50,541
because of the incredible state
of preservation
413
00:31:50,674 --> 00:31:55,012
and there are very subtle elements
that you see on the instrument
414
00:31:55,146 --> 00:31:57,014
that are traces of the process.
415
00:31:57,148 --> 00:32:01,585
That are left behind
artefacts of Stradivari's gestures,
416
00:32:01,719 --> 00:32:04,889
you know the way that you see
the beading around the f-holes
417
00:32:05,022 --> 00:32:06,957
which is worn on many instruments.
418
00:32:07,091 --> 00:32:09,627
You know and over many
years of playing has become soft
419
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,531
and you know there's
a kind of crispness and electricity
420
00:32:13,664 --> 00:32:18,035
in the particularly well-preserved
instrument that's totally thrilling.
421
00:32:18,169 --> 00:32:21,505
What's exciting about the Alard is
it also corresponds to a sound
422
00:32:21,639 --> 00:32:22,673
that is like that one,
423
00:32:22,807 --> 00:32:25,476
and it's Iike nothing
I've ever heard or experienced.
424
00:32:25,643 --> 00:32:26,610
Phenomenal.
425
00:32:32,249 --> 00:32:33,918
It could be a little bit,
426
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,422
build up or is it too much?
427
00:33:00,544 --> 00:33:02,980
I've now spent
a little bit more time with Alard,
428
00:33:03,113 --> 00:33:06,650
I mean the first few notes
that I played on it
429
00:33:06,784 --> 00:33:10,888
when Steven first showed me
the instrument I was Iike beauty!
430
00:33:11,021 --> 00:33:14,325
This is crazy and then
one plays and it was like...
431
00:33:14,792 --> 00:33:19,964
yeah it's great but
I don't really know how to find...
432
00:33:20,464 --> 00:33:23,000
I touch the string and
it just kind of pops out because
433
00:33:23,133 --> 00:33:25,302
it's such a strong instrument.
434
00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:30,274
You know being with it,
and the instrument is not played much.
435
00:33:30,407 --> 00:33:33,911
So it needs
a bit of time to start feeling, you know.
436
00:33:37,348 --> 00:33:38,849
That happened I feel,
437
00:33:38,983 --> 00:33:42,720
and it's coming,
it's coming you know the more I play it.
438
00:33:51,762 --> 00:33:52,696
That was too much.
439
00:33:52,830 --> 00:33:57,868
My question with the instrument is either
Brahms or Schuman Phantasiestücke.
440
00:33:58,002 --> 00:33:58,969
So we could
441
00:33:59,103 --> 00:34:01,705
Let's try the Schumann now.
442
00:34:01,972 --> 00:34:05,809
Or you want to try the Brahms on the other
instrument and you teII me what is...
443
00:34:05,943 --> 00:34:06,911
Oh yeah... yeah.
444
00:34:07,044 --> 00:34:11,949
- Maybe, not the whole thing but Iike
- Yes, let's go! Whatever you want to do
445
00:34:12,583 --> 00:34:15,519
What Janine
needs to do to make this project work,
446
00:34:15,653 --> 00:34:20,291
is to find the right
instrument for a given piece.
447
00:34:20,424 --> 00:34:25,596
So we try, she has an idea,
and then we try.
448
00:34:25,829 --> 00:34:30,568
Of course I have an opinion
and she'II look at me,
449
00:34:30,834 --> 00:34:33,370
and if l know immediately,
I'll say, that's it.
450
00:34:35,205 --> 00:34:39,343
The onus is on Janine to be Iike
a Chameleon with aII these instruments.
451
00:34:39,476 --> 00:34:40,811
She has to be.
452
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:14,278
Such a wilder sound,
it has a wilder sound.
453
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:29,493
I think Brahms wiII be better, right?
454
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,062
Of course there's a very good
argument for certain instruments
455
00:35:32,196 --> 00:35:33,864
to be kept in their pristine condition,
456
00:35:33,998 --> 00:35:35,866
so future generations get to see them
457
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,436
and know what they looked Iike in the day,
nearer to the day they were made,
458
00:35:39,570 --> 00:35:41,639
but it's also important that from time
to time they're played
459
00:35:41,772 --> 00:35:43,807
and I think that's what's happening
with the Alard
460
00:35:43,941 --> 00:35:48,879
and I'm not sure that there's
any public recording of it at aII.
461
00:35:49,146 --> 00:35:52,082
In aII senses, it is one of the greatest
Violins on earth.
462
00:36:26,283 --> 00:36:30,788
Ok I'll try to put hairspray
in my hair so l can actually...
463
00:36:35,159 --> 00:36:38,462
This instrument is a monster,
464
00:36:38,595 --> 00:36:39,930
and it's very unusual for me
465
00:36:40,064 --> 00:36:44,134
to hear Janine play like this
with that instrument,
466
00:36:44,268 --> 00:36:46,904
because I know her
to be a different player,
467
00:36:47,037 --> 00:36:49,973
but what a fantastic
experience for her
468
00:36:50,140 --> 00:36:53,811
to be able to be out
of her comfort zone sometimes
469
00:36:54,511 --> 00:36:56,513
and to reinvent herself.
470
00:36:58,882 --> 00:37:00,918
What is we don't actually...
471
00:37:29,446 --> 00:37:31,548
Can I try one time?
So you mean...
472
00:37:51,969 --> 00:37:53,704
It's heroic, you wanna....
473
00:38:02,713 --> 00:38:08,018
I have to be fully concentrated,
to take into account her musicality,
474
00:38:08,152 --> 00:38:11,088
her sense of fIexibiIity and colour.
475
00:38:11,488 --> 00:38:15,926
But also prompting her to help her,
476
00:38:16,994 --> 00:38:21,198
say no, "Be proud of this instrument...
Or stay with it".
477
00:38:22,332 --> 00:38:26,303
Sometimes the instrument
just needs to reign if you Iike.
478
00:38:34,711 --> 00:38:37,314
Ahhh it aII the time keeps
going the wrong way!
479
00:38:37,447 --> 00:38:39,316
Can we do that again?
480
00:39:04,942 --> 00:39:08,478
Obviously Milstein,
being such a phenomenal talent
481
00:39:08,612 --> 00:39:10,981
and he had this extraordinary way...
482
00:39:11,114 --> 00:39:14,551
I know that before he went
on stage he would try different fingerings
483
00:39:14,685 --> 00:39:17,855
and different bowings
and the violin is very fluid
484
00:39:17,988 --> 00:39:20,991
and it takes that very easily,
he could make changes IiteraIIy
485
00:39:21,124 --> 00:39:23,727
within seconds of him being on stage.
486
00:39:43,981 --> 00:39:46,250
The Milstein's a violin
you could sell on a phone call,
487
00:39:46,383 --> 00:39:48,952
when someone does obtain it,
they're searching for that quality
488
00:39:49,086 --> 00:39:52,890
and that sound and they're trying to be
Milstein with some individuality
489
00:39:53,023 --> 00:39:55,192
because they need to have
their own individuality.
490
00:39:55,325 --> 00:40:00,130
But it's a hugely important
part of the whole picture I would say.
491
00:40:03,967 --> 00:40:07,070
Now do it the other way, now do
it the normal way.
492
00:40:07,771 --> 00:40:08,972
What's the normal way?
493
00:40:09,106 --> 00:40:10,707
Well, without changing the string.
494
00:40:10,841 --> 00:40:12,342
Just do it once.
495
00:40:15,679 --> 00:40:18,749
How many times can I do this?
- How many times can I do it?
496
00:40:33,730 --> 00:40:36,333
I prefer it,
because you're the protagonist.
497
00:40:36,466 --> 00:40:39,269
You go into it, you swaIIow the sound.
498
00:40:41,571 --> 00:40:44,341
That's the sound.
- It is such a Shame.
499
00:40:44,474 --> 00:40:45,842
No it's not
500
00:40:48,312 --> 00:40:50,314
I've got something here
501
00:40:56,787 --> 00:40:58,755
That instrument, it's beautiful.
502
00:40:58,889 --> 00:41:03,660
It's so fIexibIe
and it is so Iuscious in sound.
503
00:41:03,794 --> 00:41:06,196
Also it carries the sound.
504
00:41:06,330 --> 00:41:09,633
It is perfect I think,
for the Rachmaninoff
505
00:41:09,766 --> 00:41:11,435
slow movement from the Cello Sonata, but...
506
00:41:11,568 --> 00:41:15,772
which I mean I am so happy
to do that because I love that piece.
507
00:41:18,742 --> 00:41:21,845
You don't want to give
aII that sound away you see.
508
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,782
I agree Really, trust me on that one.
509
00:41:40,330 --> 00:41:43,500
There is no question
that there are ghosts in the room with us.
510
00:41:43,633 --> 00:41:47,537
Janine was playing on
Nathan Milstein's violin
511
00:41:47,671 --> 00:41:53,143
and my goodness, the
warmth of tone,
512
00:41:53,477 --> 00:41:55,746
the depth of tone...
513
00:41:55,879 --> 00:41:57,781
But these guys are in the room,
514
00:41:57,914 --> 00:42:02,252
I felt it especially when
Janine was playing Liebesleid.
515
00:42:03,186 --> 00:42:05,689
That Kreisler violin.
516
00:42:06,723 --> 00:42:09,359
I just thought "ohh this is strange".
517
00:42:10,827 --> 00:42:13,497
And maybe because the light had gone down
outside
518
00:42:13,630 --> 00:42:15,665
and the mood in the room changed,
519
00:42:15,799 --> 00:42:18,402
but I believe in those kind of ghosts.
520
00:42:30,981 --> 00:42:32,182
Hmmm sorry.
521
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:39,089
It's actually a bit intimidating to play.
522
00:43:02,345 --> 00:43:08,051
The 1733 for Liebesleid
that was clear from the first moment
523
00:43:08,185 --> 00:43:10,120
I touched that instrument.
524
00:43:10,754 --> 00:43:13,323
One cannot imagine any other sound.
525
00:43:15,992 --> 00:43:18,128
It touches the soul.
526
00:43:20,831 --> 00:43:23,934
And then, somehow I had in my head
527
00:43:24,067 --> 00:43:28,238
that maybe aII the small Kreisler pieces
should be on this instrument.
528
00:43:28,371 --> 00:43:31,508
It's just so great and fun to play it.
529
00:43:59,102 --> 00:44:00,437
Sorry I didn't hear it.
530
00:44:00,570 --> 00:44:03,039
But you know what would be interesting,
just before,
531
00:44:03,173 --> 00:44:07,611
also to have the other
Kreisler here so I can swap.
532
00:44:10,347 --> 00:44:11,414
I love it right?
533
00:44:11,548 --> 00:44:13,083
But I wonder if maybe...
534
00:44:24,027 --> 00:44:26,696
We have the HiII Diaries,
so we get an insight
535
00:44:26,830 --> 00:44:28,865
ot how that came about wtth Kramer.
536
00:44:28,999 --> 00:44:32,836
They found the 1733 for him,
in around 1917.
537
00:44:33,003 --> 00:44:36,439
He obviously loved it,
and it was a great sounding Stradivari
538
00:44:36,573 --> 00:44:39,976
and he obviously kept it until 1936.
539
00:44:40,110 --> 00:44:43,680
But interestingly Kreisler
bought another one, just one year later.
540
00:44:43,914 --> 00:44:46,416
If anything it even has a darker,
more sonorous,
541
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:50,120
blooming depth and
a sound that is very much Kreisler.
542
00:45:38,401 --> 00:45:43,139
We went to the Spanish Dance of de Fal/a,
in a Kreisler arrangement
543
00:45:43,273 --> 00:45:49,879
and the other
Kreisler had a bite and a sort of,
544
00:45:50,647 --> 00:45:55,852
you know, how do you say,
'Devil may care' sound about it.
545
00:45:55,986 --> 00:45:57,320
Which is just right!
546
00:46:20,076 --> 00:46:22,245
It's a little bit of, I don't know,
547
00:46:23,513 --> 00:46:28,952
I cannot say it better than you know
attitude and a IittIe bit of edge to it!
548
00:46:29,085 --> 00:46:33,590
And I think that's
probably the right way to go.
549
00:46:49,372 --> 00:46:51,708
It's a learning Curve to
hear so many different fiddles,
550
00:46:51,841 --> 00:46:55,712
but I'm very happy
to say I can hear the difference.
551
00:46:55,845 --> 00:46:58,114
And that's the point I think.
552
00:47:10,827 --> 00:47:14,798
No.. it's fun, it's challenging,
553
00:47:14,931 --> 00:47:18,868
it's a Iot of focus,
and I feel completely finished.
554
00:47:55,372 --> 00:47:58,508
It's been a little
bit crazy for the time here,
555
00:47:58,641 --> 00:48:01,578
being out of the project
for the weeks of the quarantine.
556
00:48:01,711 --> 00:48:07,417
But I have wonderful people around me
that bring soups and teas and take care.
557
00:48:07,550 --> 00:48:10,987
The other very important thing,
which is also a dangerous thing
558
00:48:11,121 --> 00:48:15,792
which is that when one plays music
one forgets in a way.
559
00:48:15,925 --> 00:48:20,163
And when one stops playing,
one feels like, ok
560
00:48:22,065 --> 00:48:23,032
I'm a bit tired.
561
00:48:23,166 --> 00:48:26,169
But that's just music,
it makes one forget.
562
00:48:43,319 --> 00:48:47,223
There were doubts that we were
going to actually make this recording,
563
00:48:47,357 --> 00:48:50,627
but you got stronger
and I happened to be free.
564
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,697
As everyone else happens to be free,
at the moment in this business,
565
00:48:54,831 --> 00:48:58,101
and we just happened to keep
postponing and postponing and we're here!
566
00:48:58,234 --> 00:48:59,335
We're doing it.
567
00:48:59,469 --> 00:49:02,071
And we're going to do it the way
we need to do it,
568
00:49:02,205 --> 00:49:03,540
but not to force it.
569
00:49:20,824 --> 00:49:22,392
Am I pushing this?
570
00:49:24,194 --> 00:49:25,161
No it's nice.
571
00:49:25,595 --> 00:49:28,798
Is it nice or
is it actually nicer if we..?
572
00:49:29,466 --> 00:49:30,433
No it's nice.
573
00:49:32,869 --> 00:49:34,671
Lookthatyes,
but I'm making a crescendo into it,
574
00:49:34,804 --> 00:49:35,939
and I'm wondering if I shouldn't do that?
575
00:49:36,072 --> 00:49:37,941
You gotta Iean into it a little bit.
576
00:49:38,074 --> 00:49:39,409
But what if I don't, can I try it?
577
00:49:39,542 --> 00:49:42,745
The crescendo comes from before, look!
578
00:49:55,925 --> 00:49:59,362
The San Lorenzo
for me feels like a very warm
579
00:49:59,662 --> 00:50:03,766
and a bit almost dark quality also.
580
00:50:06,236 --> 00:50:11,574
Intuitively I feel like it fits well
to the Clara Schumann Romance.
581
00:50:11,708 --> 00:50:13,309
Well, it's a love story!
It's a romance.
582
00:50:13,443 --> 00:50:19,315
That's what it is, and that's a very good
description of what love is you know?
583
00:50:19,449 --> 00:50:24,287
The light and the dark.
The turbulence and the serenity.
584
00:50:41,371 --> 00:50:42,839
What an opportunity it is,
585
00:50:42,972 --> 00:50:46,943
to make a recording with such
an extraordinary range of instruments.
586
00:50:47,076 --> 00:50:49,579
Every instrument is teIIing us
something different,
587
00:50:49,712 --> 00:50:52,849
and therefore we are
recording it in a different sort of way.
588
00:50:52,982 --> 00:50:55,351
We see things come into focus and out of
focus,
589
00:50:55,485 --> 00:50:56,853
depending on the instrument itself.
590
00:50:56,986 --> 00:50:59,822
The attraction is,
to understand for the first time,
591
00:50:59,956 --> 00:51:02,759
what string players teII us aII the time,
which is that every instrument
592
00:51:02,892 --> 00:51:05,695
has its own story,
every instrument has got its own life
593
00:51:05,828 --> 00:51:07,730
and they make
you play music in a different way.
594
00:51:07,864 --> 00:51:11,834
I'm not sure if change is necessary.
It needs to...
595
00:51:15,104 --> 00:51:17,006
Yeah, it needs to have...
596
00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:22,111
what happens is one sounds a little bit
forsaken and then you get to the real one.
597
00:51:22,645 --> 00:51:23,646
I understand.
598
00:51:27,116 --> 00:51:28,384
That to me sounds...
599
00:51:29,652 --> 00:51:32,488
I agree...
Ok we have to do the whole thing again!
600
00:51:33,222 --> 00:51:34,691
Because I do it every
time.
601
00:51:34,824 --> 00:51:36,826
Well no with the big...
Don't worry.
602
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,963
No, no, no but I agree.
Yeah I like it, let's do it one more time.
603
00:51:57,146 --> 00:52:00,249
We aII know Kreisler's music,
it's played by every violinist.
604
00:52:00,383 --> 00:52:02,585
It's beautiful music which is
played for encores and so on.
605
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,420
But to actually hear it on the violin
606
00:52:04,554 --> 00:52:07,890
on which Kreisler
had under his chin at the time,
607
00:52:08,024 --> 00:52:11,394
you start to understand
why he wrote what he did.
608
00:52:57,306 --> 00:53:00,410
But the beginning was better,
there was some...
609
00:53:00,643 --> 00:53:02,512
But those little things
we have elsewhere.
610
00:53:02,645 --> 00:53:04,747
- Very nice!
- It was better yeah?
611
00:53:04,914 --> 00:53:06,182
Thank you
612
00:53:06,315 --> 00:53:09,118
I wiII call you
for aII my fingerings now.
613
00:53:10,820 --> 00:53:15,291
It's a phenomenologically
unique experience for a musician
614
00:53:15,425 --> 00:53:18,594
to play something
they know Kreisler recorded on.
615
00:53:18,728 --> 00:53:22,432
That Kreisler walked out on
stage onto Carnegie Hall with.
616
00:53:22,565 --> 00:53:25,334
So it's obvious to me
that there's something imbued in
617
00:53:25,468 --> 00:53:28,538
an instrument by
the person who played it before.
618
00:53:28,671 --> 00:53:31,908
And when that person is
someone who for me is, again,
619
00:53:32,041 --> 00:53:36,813
a truly noble soul and
has given their life to expressing music,
620
00:53:36,946 --> 00:53:39,782
interpreting
composers and shared that with us...
621
00:53:40,049 --> 00:53:44,387
I can't help but think there's
some of that in the object itself.
622
00:54:05,675 --> 00:54:10,246
I believe that these old instruments
are imbued with the character
623
00:54:10,379 --> 00:54:12,849
and the sound of previous players.
624
00:54:12,982 --> 00:54:14,317
I choose to believe it.
625
00:54:14,450 --> 00:54:18,955
Possibly not the case, but the fact is,
in the minds of the players
626
00:54:19,188 --> 00:54:21,624
it's a psychological
effect and its a real effect.
627
00:54:21,758 --> 00:54:26,229
And any one, modern player,
addressing that instrument,
628
00:54:26,829 --> 00:54:29,465
and they have in mind its history...
629
00:54:29,632 --> 00:54:30,767
It's going to come out in their playing.
630
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:35,438
It's going to effect how
they play it and what they deride from it,
631
00:54:35,905 --> 00:54:37,473
which is aII good.
632
00:54:37,673 --> 00:54:41,911
Whether it's scientifically proven
or anything, I'm not that interested.
633
00:54:42,044 --> 00:54:43,713
There's a romance to it.
634
00:54:56,626 --> 00:54:58,694
When you start playing, it takes
635
00:54:58,828 --> 00:55:02,498
time to find the sounds,
to find the character of the instrument.
636
00:55:02,632 --> 00:55:05,701
And it's so fun to finally find that
637
00:55:05,835 --> 00:55:08,971
and when you listen back you think
hmmmm
638
00:55:09,105 --> 00:55:12,942
I killed the instrument, or it's
not really resonating properly.
639
00:55:13,075 --> 00:55:18,648
And then while you go on,
Suddenly it's there, you start finding it.
640
00:55:18,781 --> 00:55:20,216
So it's really exciting.
641
00:55:20,349 --> 00:55:21,951
And there's of course
some instruments
642
00:55:22,084 --> 00:55:25,621
like the Alard and the Tyrell
which don't get played a lot.
643
00:55:25,755 --> 00:55:28,224
And then it's not only a matter of me
644
00:55:28,357 --> 00:55:33,129
finding the instrument,
but it's also the instrument coming alive.
645
00:55:40,469 --> 00:55:42,004
I'm so sorry to stop.
646
00:55:42,405 --> 00:55:43,873
I'm so unhappy with what I did.
647
00:55:44,006 --> 00:55:44,941
Why?
648
00:55:45,508 --> 00:55:48,644
I make the opposite
of what it actually says.
649
00:55:57,220 --> 00:55:58,988
I should make a crescendo, right?
650
00:55:59,121 --> 00:56:01,290
Well, I said the time before,
651
00:56:01,424 --> 00:56:03,826
you know if you're going
to do an echo do a little bit.
652
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,662
But the last one you did was fantastic.
653
00:56:06,796 --> 00:56:07,864
Okok
654
00:56:42,131 --> 00:56:44,734
What we're finding is,
the music itself is developing
655
00:56:44,867 --> 00:56:46,135
as Janine gets
used to the instrument,
656
00:56:46,269 --> 00:56:47,770
we hear the instrument sometimes open up.
657
00:56:47,904 --> 00:56:50,172
The best example is the Alard,
when it began we thought
658
00:56:50,306 --> 00:56:53,142
'Well this is the famous violin,
it sounds a little duII at the moment'
659
00:56:53,276 --> 00:56:56,512
And as we did another take and another
take and played more and more music,
660
00:56:56,646 --> 00:56:59,048
this instrument
started teIIing Janine how to play.
661
00:56:59,181 --> 00:57:00,750
Janine started tell it how to play.
662
00:57:00,883 --> 00:57:04,654
And from our point of view the sound
opened out, in a way that normaIIy we'd be
663
00:57:04,787 --> 00:57:08,224
moving microphones, or changing settings
to get different sounds like this.
664
00:57:08,357 --> 00:57:11,193
It was the instrument that was changing.
665
00:57:25,107 --> 00:57:27,643
Yeah, here I think we should hear it.
666
00:57:29,011 --> 00:57:30,646
What if we do the opposite?
667
00:57:33,516 --> 00:57:34,750
That is so yearning.
668
00:57:35,952 --> 00:57:37,553
So this should be held...
669
00:57:38,888 --> 00:57:40,389
That should be held.
670
00:57:41,290 --> 00:57:42,959
That I feel the opposite.
671
00:57:43,092 --> 00:57:46,228
You can come back quite a long
way dynamically though. - Yes.
672
00:57:46,362 --> 00:57:49,532
Janine, and I know why,
because what's coming up
673
00:57:49,665 --> 00:57:52,101
- I just don't want to do aII the time..
like DADADA.
674
00:57:52,234 --> 00:57:53,502
I understand,
675
00:57:54,837 --> 00:57:58,674
- I don't know how it feels over there.
- Play like a man.
676
00:58:02,111 --> 00:58:03,980
Ok maybe I was exaggerating
677
00:58:06,882 --> 00:58:09,986
What if we a little bit,
there give in dynamic?
678
00:58:14,890 --> 00:58:17,893
So we have space to kind of
go to this...
679
00:58:18,027 --> 00:58:20,262
Ijust feel like I am on the top of my...
680
01:00:15,678 --> 01:00:19,181
I am feeling, not great,
if I can be honest.
681
01:00:19,315 --> 01:00:22,184
I think it's time to say,
we did fantastic work on this
682
01:00:22,318 --> 01:00:23,686
one and on the other meses,
so thank you Very much.
683
01:00:23,819 --> 01:00:25,020
Great, thank you.
684
01:00:25,154 --> 01:00:29,024
- We got the big ones out the way.
- This was good, yeah.
685
01:00:29,758 --> 01:00:30,993
Thank you Tony.
686
01:00:46,208 --> 01:00:50,045
The extraordinary
thing for us is how the violin changes.
687
01:00:50,179 --> 01:00:52,181
Let's do this again tomorrow, aII day..
688
01:00:52,314 --> 01:00:54,617
and Brahms... and Brahms again!
689
01:00:54,750 --> 01:01:00,789
I'll kill you,
I'll make it my mission to kill you.
690
01:01:00,923 --> 01:01:06,762
The Alard is just like, I mean
ithas
691
01:01:07,863 --> 01:01:11,667
extreme power, but it has amazing support.
692
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:14,703
Whenever you touch
the strings you feel this,
693
01:01:14,837 --> 01:01:20,543
I don't know... this body Underneath
and not in a kind of you know...
694
01:01:21,610 --> 01:01:24,313
concrete way but like in any way.
695
01:01:24,446 --> 01:01:26,048
It flies, the sound. It's briIIiant,
696
01:01:26,182 --> 01:01:31,887
not only on the E string
but like overall, it's amazing.
697
01:01:32,021 --> 01:01:35,424
And now it's here, and it's being played
for the first time at a concert hall.
698
01:01:35,558 --> 01:01:39,428
For the first time in a recording,
and I'm super
699
01:01:39,562 --> 01:01:43,666
Iucky and grateful to be able
to do that,
700
01:01:43,799 --> 01:01:47,670
experience this time together with Alard...
701
01:01:48,604 --> 01:01:51,340
Me and Alard
702
01:01:53,342 --> 01:01:56,545
There's a saying from his time,
as rich as Stradivari.
703
01:01:56,679 --> 01:02:01,417
In Cremona, he had effectively
established a name and a brand for himself
704
01:02:01,550 --> 01:02:03,953
and a sense of
excellence during his Iifetime.
705
01:02:04,086 --> 01:02:07,056
Many of the instruments
that he made
706
01:02:07,189 --> 01:02:09,925
went directly into private collections.
707
01:02:10,059 --> 01:02:11,827
The church being the most notable.
708
01:02:11,961 --> 01:02:16,465
So you have,
at the very outset at the sense
709
01:02:16,599 --> 01:02:19,335
of value and prestige
associated with the object.
710
01:02:19,468 --> 01:02:20,436
It's very significant.
711
01:02:20,569 --> 01:02:23,472
Well I often think of Violins,
they're sort of like...
712
01:02:23,606 --> 01:02:29,011
little rubber ducks,
floating on the streams of history.
713
01:02:30,246 --> 01:02:34,817
Economic and
colonial and industrial history,
714
01:02:34,950 --> 01:02:37,453
these little Violins are just
bobbing along on this stream.
715
01:02:37,586 --> 01:02:40,623
Going from
a little town in Northern Italy,
716
01:02:40,756 --> 01:02:43,726
Cremona, and then they go to Spam ñrst,
717
01:02:43,859 --> 01:02:47,930
because Cremona
was a possessjxon of Spam at that peñod. ....
718
01:02:48,063 --> 01:02:52,101
And then Spain goes into
decline and they start moving into
719
01:02:52,234 --> 01:02:56,038
France, and then England
is the great dominant power.
720
01:02:56,171 --> 01:02:57,773
And then it's Wherever the money resides.
721
01:02:57,906 --> 01:03:01,977
Wherever there is a great
class of people, the aristocrats,
722
01:03:02,111 --> 01:03:07,483
but then in the 19th century these
become business owners, industrialists.
723
01:03:59,835 --> 01:04:02,571
You had these instruments
available in your country house,
724
01:04:02,705 --> 01:04:04,873
so you had hired a musician,
725
01:04:05,007 --> 01:04:07,743
who may have an inferior instrument
and then say,
726
01:04:07,876 --> 01:04:10,412
"Now you're in my home,
you play my Stradivari."
727
01:04:10,546 --> 01:04:13,749
And it impressas your guests, and
728
01:04:14,450 --> 01:04:19,788
basically you'd have them hanging
in wardrobes around your country estate.
729
01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:57,926
I think using instruments as
730
01:04:58,060 --> 01:05:02,998
a study in geopolitical and economic
power is completely fascinating.
731
01:05:03,132 --> 01:05:05,901
I mean, where were
a Iot of great Stradivaris going,
732
01:05:06,034 --> 01:05:08,570
in the '80s in the '90s.
Many of them went to Japan.
733
01:05:08,704 --> 01:05:11,707
There's a moment were many
of these instruments are appearing
734
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,776
in private collections in Korea.
735
01:05:13,909 --> 01:05:18,180
The Iandscape right now in Asia,
with the profound
736
01:05:18,313 --> 01:05:21,517
artistic excellence
and great economic power
737
01:05:21,650 --> 01:05:23,485
being developed in China,
738
01:05:23,619 --> 01:05:25,254
there's a possibility for custodianship
739
01:05:25,387 --> 01:05:29,324
in that part of the world
that's very unique.
740
01:05:29,491 --> 01:05:36,064
I need to be very loose, I think
with the vibrato for it to go... Iike this.
741
01:05:39,601 --> 01:05:40,936
Let's try
742
01:05:41,069 --> 01:05:43,272
- Ok guys.
- Yeah we're aII ready
743
01:05:43,639 --> 01:05:45,607
Th is is Désespoir.
744
01:06:19,675 --> 01:06:21,743
There
are some instruments of course,
745
01:06:21,877 --> 01:06:26,148
that couple so
extremely weII and have to be...
746
01:06:26,281 --> 01:06:31,019
Vieuxtemps with this wonderful
Désespoir piece by Vieuxtemps himself.
747
01:06:31,153 --> 01:06:33,989
Desperation.
I mean, this violin is special.
748
01:06:34,122 --> 01:06:36,925
It's really great to play it
749
01:06:37,059 --> 01:06:41,697
because it feels kind of Iike a Ferrari,
it always gives a IittIe bit more,
750
01:06:41,830 --> 01:06:44,666
just that one extra gear
and kind of flies.
751
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:48,270
And this piece, I mean I cannot imagine
another instrument,
752
01:06:48,403 --> 01:06:50,539
that would fit better.
753
01:06:52,007 --> 01:06:55,210
Sorry, sorry I missed that.
- I didn't hear you,
754
01:06:56,945 --> 01:06:57,913
I'm sorry.
755
01:07:01,550 --> 01:07:03,385
Any faster and then I can't.
756
01:07:03,519 --> 01:07:05,921
Let's play it one time through,
we wiII listen if we are..
757
01:07:06,188 --> 01:07:08,090
Yeah Ok.
758
01:08:03,045 --> 01:08:05,247
Ok guys, don't push me anymore.
- No.
759
01:08:06,048 --> 01:08:09,051
It is sometimes thought that Violins
should be played aII the time.
760
01:08:09,184 --> 01:08:13,155
There are a few exceptional examples
that would benefit future generations
761
01:08:13,288 --> 01:08:15,524
by being preserved.
762
01:08:15,824 --> 01:08:18,193
Which doesn't mean
that they would never be played,
763
01:08:18,327 --> 01:08:21,830
but it does mean that they would be
764
01:08:22,598 --> 01:08:26,468
rested for a while and
the instruments like the Tyrell,
765
01:08:26,602 --> 01:08:29,304
which we can see now in
such extraordinary condition
766
01:08:29,438 --> 01:08:34,343
are only Iike that because they have
been shut away for maybe 200 years.
767
01:09:13,115 --> 01:09:16,852
I think the Elgar
with the Tyrell is beautiful,
768
01:09:16,985 --> 01:09:21,623
it's such a pure sounding instrument.
769
01:09:21,757 --> 01:09:26,328
So extremely human in its voice,
I mean I find, I get this...
770
01:09:26,461 --> 01:09:29,798
And the Sospiri, I mean it's this...
771
01:09:29,931 --> 01:09:32,901
this extremely cantabile. ..
772
01:09:36,038 --> 01:09:40,742
almost like a human voice
that fits it so beautifully.
773
01:10:29,825 --> 01:10:33,328
There are people who own instruments,
and you don't see them care.
774
01:10:33,462 --> 01:10:35,464
I don't know how many instruments
you hear, ten to eleven or tweIve,
775
01:10:35,597 --> 01:10:38,700
but some of the greatest instruments,
they can stiII be played.
776
01:10:38,834 --> 01:10:40,702
And played hard and played well,
and played,
777
01:10:40,836 --> 01:10:44,206
you know in big concert
haIIs and sound spectacular.
778
01:10:44,339 --> 01:10:49,277
So me, when I look at it,
when I've got something that can be played
779
01:10:49,411 --> 01:10:52,748
and can be Ient to a top performer,
780
01:10:52,881 --> 01:10:57,219
or somebody who has got real talent,
then let's make it happen.
781
01:11:39,961 --> 01:11:43,198
Patronage has always been a part,
because Stradivari in his day
782
01:11:43,331 --> 01:11:45,534
was charging a Iot of money
for his Violins.
783
01:11:45,667 --> 01:11:48,537
Certainly that tradition of
great patrons
784
01:11:48,670 --> 01:11:51,206
has always been important,
because they've always been expensive
785
01:11:51,339 --> 01:11:53,175
and they've become even more expensive.
786
01:11:53,308 --> 01:11:57,746
Anything from five to twenty five or more
million dollars, which is extraordinary.
787
01:11:57,879 --> 01:12:00,849
But players reIy on patronage.
788
01:12:01,449 --> 01:12:04,686
In terms of investment, instruments
that were made three hundred years ago,
789
01:12:04,820 --> 01:12:06,154
they're making no more of these.
790
01:12:06,288 --> 01:12:07,856
So there's a finite supply.
791
01:12:07,989 --> 01:12:11,126
There are some spectacular
modern instruments but my personal view is
792
01:12:11,259 --> 01:12:13,528
they can project weII but
they don't have the cuII and the nuance
793
01:12:13,662 --> 01:12:15,530
that some of these really,
tremendously great instruments,
794
01:12:15,664 --> 01:12:19,067
dating back to
two or three hundred years have.
795
01:12:19,267 --> 01:12:21,636
And so, you know, for me to be part
of that,
796
01:12:21,770 --> 01:12:23,939
and to hear these instruments,
797
01:12:24,139 --> 01:12:28,543
and I don't want to sound too clichéd, but
we're the keepers for the next generation.
798
01:12:29,744 --> 01:12:31,546
So much more warmth.
799
01:12:37,385 --> 01:12:39,654
If you're going to want to re-record
everything I'm going to kiII you.
800
01:12:39,788 --> 01:12:41,356
I'm going to kiII you so many times.
801
01:12:41,556 --> 01:12:44,259
No but this violin is very
easy to work, and it's speaking.
802
01:12:44,392 --> 01:12:45,460
It's soft.
803
01:12:49,431 --> 01:12:53,568
But it is,
it reacts to kind of delicate touch.
804
01:12:54,769 --> 01:12:56,571
Ok, here we go kids.
805
01:12:58,907 --> 01:13:01,209
Now it wiII be undelicate.
806
01:13:47,289 --> 01:13:50,225
I think that the future is
related to the past,
807
01:13:50,358 --> 01:13:53,628
where there wiII be
more of these instruments
808
01:13:53,762 --> 01:13:55,864
put into private collections.
809
01:13:55,997 --> 01:14:00,902
I a way that is problematic, because
they become silenced in that process.
810
01:14:01,036 --> 01:14:02,837
Is there a way to do that where
811
01:14:02,971 --> 01:14:05,140
the instruments
become available to be heard?
812
01:14:05,273 --> 01:14:10,779
And is there a combination between
conservation and performance practice
813
01:14:10,912 --> 01:14:13,248
where both of
those things can be honoured?
814
01:14:13,381 --> 01:14:17,319
I would Iike to see
the future described by those things.
815
01:14:55,357 --> 01:14:58,660
Not to forget Ida Haendel's Strad,
it's special.
816
01:14:58,793 --> 01:15:04,733
And that E string it kind of,
goes straight to the heart.
817
01:15:04,866 --> 01:15:08,570
Then, of course,
knowing this was her instrument,
818
01:15:08,703 --> 01:15:13,942
it makes it even more knowing
and beautiful.
819
01:15:48,643 --> 01:15:53,915
The history of violin playing
has been in this room for four days,
820
01:15:54,049 --> 01:15:58,486
and it carries on through Janine,
and she's demonstrated her prowess
821
01:15:58,620 --> 01:16:01,289
and her Curiosity and soul
822
01:16:01,423 --> 01:16:06,094
and perseverance and Courage to
take these Violins in her hands,
823
01:16:06,227 --> 01:16:11,900
because I can imagine,
just the idea is daunting.
824
01:16:12,033 --> 01:16:16,638
I mean, it's a great opportunity yes,
but it's frightening.
825
01:16:16,905 --> 01:16:18,740
But she just...
826
01:16:19,307 --> 01:16:22,143
Maybe in a way,
during the recording
827
01:16:22,277 --> 01:16:28,583
I tried not to realise
aII the time which amazing
828
01:16:29,651 --> 01:16:32,687
musicians have played these
instruments because it is of course...
829
01:16:32,821 --> 01:16:40,061
you know that is quite impressive and
that can be intimidating as well.
830
01:16:40,195 --> 01:16:42,964
But I let the instrument inspire me.
831
01:16:43,398 --> 01:16:44,299
Wich violin is this?
832
01:16:44,432 --> 01:16:45,233
It's mine...
833
01:16:47,902 --> 01:16:49,070
Mine...
834
01:16:50,271 --> 01:16:51,306
My Shumsky!
835
01:17:59,407 --> 01:18:01,643
That project,
of course it is once in a Iifetime.
836
01:18:01,843 --> 01:18:05,313
I wasn't, at aII points, completely
sure about making it to the end.
837
01:18:05,446 --> 01:18:09,117
But actually,
there comes again this thing about
838
01:18:09,851 --> 01:18:14,222
music inspiration, music itself,
839
01:18:14,355 --> 01:18:19,627
the instruments and a wonderful partner
on stage and we're here.
840
01:19:00,034 --> 01:19:01,636
Shall we listen once?
841
01:19:01,769 --> 01:19:03,471
No, great stuff, that's fine.
842
01:19:03,605 --> 01:19:04,572
Just leave it,
843
01:19:04,706 --> 01:19:07,775
Please, trust me, just leave it.
844
01:19:07,909 --> 01:19:10,645
- One more.
- No.
845
01:19:10,778 --> 01:19:13,948
Guys, fantastic playing.
It's been a real pleasure.
846
01:19:14,082 --> 01:19:15,717
Thank you so much.
847
01:19:20,154 --> 01:19:21,756
Thank you...
848
01:19:21,889 --> 01:19:23,157
Can we...? Tony?
849
01:19:23,291 --> 01:19:28,496
Tony, do you have any energy
to play Syncopation just one time through?
850
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:30,565
To see how it sounds on this?
851
01:19:32,667 --> 01:19:34,435
That's it... just for fun.
852
01:19:36,271 --> 01:19:40,141
You have it...right
853
01:19:40,275 --> 01:19:44,312
Coming back completely at the end of
the recording, we did the 'Syncopation'.
854
01:19:44,479 --> 01:19:47,715
We had done it on the '33, so then
we tried it on the '34
855
01:19:47,849 --> 01:19:50,118
and 'xt ?eh great.
73311
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